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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledge fight.
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Dan and Jordan.
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knowledge fight.
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Need money.
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Andy in Kansas.
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Andy in Kansas.
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Stop it.
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Andy in Kansas.
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Andy in Kansas.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy in Kansas.
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You're on the air.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody!
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk just a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
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Jordan!
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Jordan!
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot this week?
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Well, my bright spot today can be found in a very special location.
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All right.
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That is inside...
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In the mailbag?
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You bet.
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Oh, boy.
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Holy cow, you brought out the mailbag quick.
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Actually, I don't know who to give a thank you to on this, because it did not come with a name, but someone sent a SodaStream machine.
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So I can make my own seltzers.
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It was going to happen someday.
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I was worried that it might...
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I have gone to Target a number of times in the past, and I've walked past the aisle of the Soda Stream, and I'm like, wow, I need to get one.
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Well, obviously.
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But I could never get myself to make the jump.
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For a number of reasons.
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One is because I'm known for novelty purchases that are like, why did I do that?
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Sure, sure, sure.
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Waffle makers in the past.
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Of course.
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And thankfully those are very cheap, but I couldn't commit to the idea of a purchase of a SodaStream and one showed up.
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Yeah.
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I thought that was really cool.
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There were no flavorings in it, so I have to go and get some and then I'll test it out.
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How does it work?
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Can you just SodaStream anything?
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I wouldn't.
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Can you just, like, put anything in there and see what happens?
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I think you could, yeah.
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I think you can, right?
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Yeah, I think you could make, like, soda more fizzy.
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Right!
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So can you...
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I think you could.
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What can't you turn into a seltzer?
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I was worried about those sorts of thoughts.
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Because they inevitably lead to fizzy milk and these sorts of things.
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I think that's a dangerous road to go down.
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I'd prefer not to explore it if possible.
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And that's why we got you a SodaStream.
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To make it inevitable and impossible to avoid.
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We'll see.
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Please send me an email so I can give you a proper thank you.
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I do appreciate it very much.
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And I look forward to...
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Going crazy!
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Yeah!
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I'm excited to!
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With carbonated coffee!
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I can't wait for late night 3am texts like, did you know that you could put this in seltzer for him?
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Jordan!
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How about you?
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Oh man, this is sad.
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You may feel like it's insignificant and small, but I've rediscovered my utter joy with extra crunchy peanut butter, Dan.
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It's not that small.
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Well, the problem is...
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My partner has a peanut allergy.
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Oh, that is a problem.
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So for several years, I have forsworn all peanut butter.
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And now, at this point in time, she's like, you're gonna die without peanut butter.
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I can't live with you.
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COVID, etc.
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And so here we are.
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You find that your mood is drastically altered by not having peanut butter?
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Totally.
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I found the same thing with ketchup for me.
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I don't know what it is.
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If I go months without ketchup, I end up becoming a real asshole.
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I found that out when I was in Greece.
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There wasn't a lot of ketchup around.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I got some, and I was like, I don't know, lycopene, maybe?
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You must be missing some amino acid or something that's in the peanut butter.
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Something that can only exist in peanut butter.
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What about, like, cashew butter?
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Is she allergic to cashews?
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What about cashew butter, Dan?
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You can't go for cashew butter?
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Have you tasted cashew butter?
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What about cookie butter?
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Lies?
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What about lies?
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Is that what you're telling me?
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You should try another butter.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Just trying to figure out a way to help your domestic situation.
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Let me tell you something.
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I have eaten several hundred peanut butter and jelly sandwiches in the past week.
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Ooh, I have something here you should try.
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Oh, what's that?
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A little thing that I got at the grocery store.
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PB&J Bites.
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PB&J Bites.
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Yeah, you should give this a try.
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A little novelty food that I found.
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Let's see how this works.
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I think that this was a little bit weird, but I found it enjoyable.
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It's a little bit of like a shell, sort of a pillowy shell that's covered in like...
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Basically like a dusting of peanut flour and then strawberry jam on the inside.
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That's fantastic.
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Yeah, it's pretty good.
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It's perfect.
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Yeah, I enjoy that.
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It reminds me of a crunchier Uncrustable.
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Do you remember the Uncrustables, the pre-made?
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Oh, yeah.
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Now, here's what's fun about this.
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Some people might think that we cut.
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And I went to the kitchen and grabbed these snacks.
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Oh, good God.
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No, no.
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No, no, no.
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If you want to know how Knowledge Fight is recorded, I have some snacks on my desk.
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There are snacks on my desk.
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They just so happened to me what I was snacking on earlier.
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Convenience.
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I'm sorry that that wasn't all that crunchy.
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No.
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No, it was delicious.
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But I'm glad that you were rediscovering that love.
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Fantastic.
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I, myself, am rediscovering my love of Alex Jones and this stupid nonsense.
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Not entirely true, I just wanted to transition.
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But today, Jordan, we're going to be going over the time period of August 12th and 13th, 2020.
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I'm Dan, this is 2020.
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Goddammit.
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Here is the part of the show where I will copy and paste my lecture from the last time Alex went viral.
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And I tried to explain to everybody that, hey, this just works in his advantage.
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You just got a video that went around that got 12 million views.
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No, no, no.
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It was great.
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Thanks, Patton.
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Thanks for your help, Oswalt.
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Hey, nothing against Patton.
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I understand the instinct.
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And it is funny.
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It's so funny.
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The tiny bullhorn is hilarious.
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Of course.
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Remember when we were talking about it on Monday's episode?
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Of course.
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This seems like it's a joke.
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It has to.
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Maybe it was.
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It's possible.
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I don't think Alex or any of his producers are that smart.
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They're like, Use a tiny bullhorn.
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People will make fun of you.
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There's no way there's that much craft involved in trolling.
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One thing I wanted to tweet, but I feel like it's just so scoldy and not really what I feel introduces much to the conversation.
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You all love this, and I do too.
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It's very funny.
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It's a tiny bullhorn.
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Alex is acting like an asshole.
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It's a tiny bullhorn, Dan.
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You want to shame him for yelling at these kids who are disinterested at Barton Springs or the Greenbelt or whatever, and I understand that.
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You will not shame him.
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No, you can't.
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You don't win.
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There is no shame that is going to come from this.
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The ultimate goal isn't going to end up being reached.
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A more productive use of people's time right now, if you want to have tweets that are getting thousands of retweets, is making everyone aware that right now Alex is dancing around saying that COVID deaths are fake people.
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Something like that.
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Because that has implications.
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That has implications in terms of his life.
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That is real.
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That is serious.
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That is dangerous.
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You want to get rid of him, right?
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There you go.
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He's in the middle of a lawsuit with Sandy Hook for saying that these people were crisis actors and all that.
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His ability to try and pretend that he's learned his lesson, because that's something he's going to have to try and present in the case.
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He's going to have to.
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He's like, I realized that I was being misled by X, Y, and Z people like Wolfgang Halbig.
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That ability to play that card diminishes when you recognize, oh, he's doing very similar things again without the influence of people like Jim Fetz or Wolfgang Halbig.
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He can do this all on his own, and it erodes his ability to defend himself from those sorts of things.
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So I feel like that would be a more productive, but...
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It seems like, honestly, that's something that the families could add right now to their deal.
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It's just literally like, hey, as another piece of evidence, we're tossing in this fact right now.
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You haven't ruled.
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We haven't even gone to trial yet.
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So guess what?
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He's doing it now in 2020.
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I think in terms of showing of character, showing of any kind of...
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Remorse?
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Remorse or growth or any...
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I don't know how much that would implicate the actual trial itself, but yeah, I think it is relevant.
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Yeah, totally.
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It's damning in terms of his claims that like, oh, you know, I just got tricked by...
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or whatever.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's all their fault.
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It's Dan Badandi's fault or whatever.
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Yeah, it's like, no, but...
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I think that that would be a more productive thing for everybody to be pushing out on social media.
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Right, right, right.
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That said, there's no tiny bullhorn in that.
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And I understand why people naturally gravitate towards video that's exciting, that's enticing, that's a bit embarrassing.
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That you would be embarrassed if that was you.
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Of course.
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You think that that's going to rub off on someone like Alex, and it's just not.
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And so, I don't know.
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Again, this is very unsatisfying, but that's maybe the...
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Tagline of our show.
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Oh, man.
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That's too apt.
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I get why people do this, and I'm not mad at them.
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I'm not scolding anybody.
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I'm not shaming anybody for engaging in fun, tiny bullhorn mockery.
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Right, right, right, right.
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I just think that if people really want to address the problem, they need to get a little bit smarter about these things.
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And a lot of people who are putting this stuff out, like these large Twitter accounts, they probably don't know.
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That someone like Alex has no shame and this doesn't matter and it's not going to hurt him in any way.
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I am unsurprised that Patton Oswalt does not listen to our show, Dan.
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That does not shock me.
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We are one step removed from Patton, quite frankly.
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We are.
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Honestly.
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We are.
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Come on, man.
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You know who you are.
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Get to work.
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There's two different things here.
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There are two types of responses that I have to social media things.
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Like, with this, I get it.
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I understand.
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No sour on anybody.
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But there's better ways to go about this.
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And more important things about Alex that people should know right now.
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The flip side of this is the accusations about Alex burning that homeless person's mattress.
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That person experiencing homelessness's mattress.
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That was bad.
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That is just like, well, you're giving him...
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You're done fucked up.
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That one is an unforced error.
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This is just...
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I get it, but it's free promotion for him in an opportunity to actually hurt his business.
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I think, okay, here's what we do.
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We create our own Chinese firewall around Alex Jones' entire operation.
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So any information that gets out through the rest of the world...
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It's filtered through our prism.
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Well, another way to do this might be I could just start actually tweeting things.
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Ooh, that would be a good idea!
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Then we could do the viral thing!
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I mean, we...
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I don't...
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I have such a resistance to doing anything that's like primarily motivated with attention gathering that I just...
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But at the end of the day, if that's a perspective that I want people to take more seriously, maybe that's something I should...
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Get over and do.
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I don't know.
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Be the change you want to see in the Alex Jones world.
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It's something I'm wrestling with.
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Maybe we have to use social media after all.
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We'll see.
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So, Jordan, we're going to get down to business on today's episode.
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Yes, sir.
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We will see multiple instances of Alex Loving going viral.
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Of course he does.
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But before we get down to that, let's take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
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Have yourself a brew.
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All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
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Let's just get down to business.
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If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show, I'd like to support these gents, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, or you can take that generosity...
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Uh-huh.
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Here we go.
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Tie it up in a...
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I want to go with Saran Wrap?
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What are you going to do with it then?
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You're going to wrap it up in saran wrap.
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You're going to make sure that it's fresh.
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You want to suck out all the air.
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What's inside it?
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Generosity is inside of it.
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Is it inside a pan?
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You put it in the refrigerator because you're listening to this in your car.
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So you want to put it in the metaphorical refrigerator.
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Your refrigerator that's in your car?
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No, it's a metaphorical refrigerator.
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It's a mental refrigerator.
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When you get out, when you're done with work, you get home, you take it out of the fridge, Dan.
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Open it up and you give it to an organization or local charity.
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That was not good.
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I've done worse.
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How dare you?
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I've done worse.
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That wasn't good.
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You were interrupting.
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I was trying to help because you were going nowhere with it, but the thought is good.
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Thanks, buddy.
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So, Jordan, as you know, our phone number is 773-TAT-GUYS.
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T-A-T guys.
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And now, before we get to our show proper, we must check in with some voicemails from listeners.
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We're going to get some calls.
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Hey, guys.
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I'm a teacher, and I really enjoy your guidance content.
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I work in a rural area, and a lot of my students are fans of Alex Jones, and your podcast has made it...
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so that I am able to counter some of Alex's rhetoric that I hear from my students with stuff that I hear from your shows.
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I just wanted to give you guys a quick thank you.
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It makes it easier to do my job and also go through the headache of hearing about conspiracies from my students.
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Sadly, my colleagues.
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But I really appreciate the work that you guys do, and I just wanted to give you guys a quick thank you since you now have the cat guy phone number.
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Thank you for all that you do.
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That's a really nice message.
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Yeah, I've noticed, I've listened to some, and a lot of them are just very much like, thank you, you do a great job.
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Which is great, which is awesome.
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I appreciate that very much, but I don't want to play a ton of them, because that sounds, then it ends up becoming like us congratulating ourselves by way of voicemails.
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It's a little bit, I want to say masturbatory.
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Sure, both of those work.
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Yep.
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But thank you so much.
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I really appreciate that message in particular because I think it really gives another perspective that maybe we don't think about all that often and that is that there are things...
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You should hit kids.
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Wait, what?
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Oh, you were going to say something?
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I was going to go a little bit different than that.
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Oh, okay.
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Sorry.
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Yeah, there are ways in which this information can be helpful to people in other walks of life that maybe we take for granted sometimes.
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Yes, absolutely.
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And that's really awesome.
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That's a side effect.
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Yeah, that's great.
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Thank you so much for sharing that.
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Yes, thank you.
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Let's go to another message here.
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All right.
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Hi guys, my name is Jorge Gortez from Chile, from South America, and I'm a huge, huge fan.
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I love you guys.
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You have made my life better.
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You have taken me of depression.
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When I'm having a rough time, I always play your episodes, so I love you so much, guys.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you for everything.
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Friday is my birthday.
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So if you play this before Friday or near Friday, it will be amazing.
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Thank you.
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Happy birthday!
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Happy birthday!
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Shout out to Chile!
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Absolutely!
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I really hope that the message there is not that we got him off antidepressants.
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Because I hope that's not the case.
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That would be an unhealthy use of our podcast.
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I hope that what's being expressed is...
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Only with doctor's supervision.
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I hope that it's just an expression of our podcast to bring some happiness.
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But that's so awesome.
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It's really great to hear from our listeners around the world, and happy birthday.
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Happy birthday so much.
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Thank you very much.
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That's really awesome.
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Man, if we get a message that's like, you guys did it.
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You convinced me.
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Vaccines are bad.
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I'd be like, no!
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Shit.
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This backfired.
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Alright, here's another message.
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Hi, Dan and Jordan.
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I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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Love you.
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I'm Lisa.
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I'm a particle physicist in training, and I just wanted to say Alex talks a lot about the large K-John Collider at CERN, and I think he's dumb as fuck.
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Well, not that and everything else.
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But ELHC is awesome.
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I love it, and I hope to work there someday.
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No, it will not destroy the world.
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Even if the Large Hadron Collider does create a black hole, it'd be a tiny little one, and it would evaporate instantly, and the odds of that even happening are incredibly small.
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And sure, yes, there was that one time that a bunch of dumb fucks, because all physicists are dumb fucks, dressed up in robes and...
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Pretending to worship a statue and act like Satanists.
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I knew it.
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Gotta have fun.
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So, yeah.
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Just wanted to say that.
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Thanks.
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Bye.
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Thank you so much, Lisa!
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Yes, thank you very much, Lisa!
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Appreciate your call, and we are pulling for you to get that job at CERN.
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Totally.
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We will be watching your career with considerable enthusiasm.
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If we can put in a good word with it.
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Do you know anybody at CERN?
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I did meet a guy who worked there.
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He used to come to my comedy show.
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Oh, yeah!
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No, you told me about that story.
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There's a guy who used to show up.
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We used to have dance parties after the comedy show, and he would show up for the dance party.
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You know, where you meet people from CERN.
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Yeah.
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He had, I think it was yoga class that ended, so he'd show up right at the end of the comedy show, usually around the headliner, and then hang out.
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He was like a 50s, 60s-year-old man.
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He was very out of place, but he was a super nice guy.
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He was just cool as shit.
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I don't remember his name or anything about him, but he worked at CERN.
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The man creates black holes.
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Of course he wants to dance.
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In theory.
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All right, we have one last call here.
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Hey, cat guys.
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This is Matt Drupkey.
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Wanted to say congratulations on the return of the call-in line.
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I'm just driving around running some errands, listening to the episode, and I thought I would say something that I posted in the group, but made me laugh really hard.
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I was listening to Friday's episode, and Dan, you played the clip of Rex saying Trump really sucked, but you have to give him one more chance.
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And what you didn't point out, and what made me laugh super hard, is that twice in the two clips you played, he said...
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On November 4th, we have to re-elect Trump, which would be great, except you got the day wrong.
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The election day is November 3rd, and he repeatedly screwed it up.
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And I could not help but laugh about that.
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Because originally, I thought it was going to be a prank of him saying like, hey, everyone, go out and vote for Biden on the 4th, trying to be that stupid thing that people did.
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Four years ago.
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And I think Alex even did it four years ago.
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But no.
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No.
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He is just misinformed of when the election is and is lying about it or just doesn't know on his show.
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Anyway, love the show.
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Keep up the good work.
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It's been so wonderful listening to you guys and listening to this work, which I know gives so many people pleasure.
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Hope you're having a good day.
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All right.
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Bye-bye.
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Yay, DraftKey!
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Oh man, it's been so long since I've heard his voice.
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It's so long.
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Such a delightful man.
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New father!
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New father!
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Congratulations!
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Just had a child!
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And I've been meaning to bring this up as a bright spot, but I've just gotten sidetracked by bonsais and what have you.
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But I do enjoy...
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New life or whatever.
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I've been seeing some tweets of his where he refers to himself as the Nightmaster.
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He is the Nightmaster now.
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I enjoy that persona.
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I like the idea that he, now with infant, must become the Nightmaster.
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First day is Nightmaster, two weeks later you're the Nightstalker.
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I'm just saying, Matt, you gotta watch out.
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Also, he does bring up a good point about that Rex sort of rat-fucking himself.
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And it was actually Trump four years ago who said the wrong day of the election.
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He got it wrong.
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I'm not sure if Alex followed along with it, but I remember that Trump was like, go vote for me on the wrong day.
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So, Jordan.
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Yes, sir, Dan.
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We've gotten through our business.
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We got through it.
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Let's jump into the episode here.
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We're going to start on the 12th.
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Okay.
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And this episode, something unintentionally hilarious happens on this episode that I'm super glad.
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But, yeah.
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It's kind of stupid.
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Does he slip on a banana peel?
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I feel like before the end...
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Metaphorically, yes.
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Absolutely.
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But like literally, before the end, we have to see him slip on a banana peel or get hit in the face with a pie.
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I mean, I think...
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Or perhaps a flower squirts water.
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I think one of these clips is spiritually the equivalent of slipping on a banana peel.
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All right.
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But not literally.
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Oh.
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So Alex's big narrative, of course, is that Trump is going to win the election.
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Sure.
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There's going to be cheating.
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They're going to steal it.
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Yes, of course.
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And so now Kamala Harris has been announced as the vice president pick.
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And so Alex is picking up a narrative about this.
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No matter how many mail-in ballots they have or how much fraud, there's about to be a giant landslide.
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And top analysts, top professors, top political scientists who've been dead on picking the last five, six elections are all unanimous.
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Trump is going to win in a huge landslide.
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And I see Limbaugh and Hannity and other talk show hosts and even folks that are here on Infowars Network who are great people going, oh, look at Kamala Harris.
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She is absolutely reviled.
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She was polling at 1% when they tried to make her the frontrunner during the Democrat primaries.
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The woman has more baggage than the belly of a 747.
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Nice.
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Boy, I tell you, this is really hurting their progressive base.
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Democrats are saying they're going to vote for Trump now.
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Ladies and gentlemen, they know they're going to lose.
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The strategy is to contest the election and have a woman they can claim is part black so that no criticism of her they can say is racist.
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Of course.
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There we go.
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They can then stir up civil war and race war in this country that they've already primed and ignited.
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I have no idea who these top people Alex is referring to who are all unanimously saying that Trump is going to win in a landslide.
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Satanilver?
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I believe he's there.
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With 835.com.
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Satanilver?
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Is that what you're saying?
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From a simple look into some of the 2020 predictions, I can't really find any reputable sources that even say that Trump is a likely winner.
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The Economist's forecast project is looking at an 89% chance of Biden winning the Electoral College and a better than 98% chance he'll win the popular vote.
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Yeah, that sounds about right.
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The predicted market-based odds have a safe Biden win predicted, and that's even without him winning Florida.
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Some other predictions are closer, but I can't really find anything that matches up with what Alex is saying.
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Now, his response to the announcement of Kamala Harris being the vice president pick is entirely predictable.
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She's a woman of color, so his angle is to insist that she was chosen as vice president because now if you criticize her, you'll be called a racist.
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Of course.
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This is super boring and is itself a racist position because it's very easy to see how Ali is.
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Alex would have said this about any potential non-white vice president.
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Oh, Dan.
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If Stacey Abrams, Cory Booker, or Karen Bass had been his choice, Alex would be saying the exact same thing.
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And this works for any sort of bigotry.
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If Biden had chosen Elizabeth Warren, Alex would claim that if you criticized her, you'd be called a sexist.
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If he'd chosen Pete Buttigieg, Alex would claim that if you criticized him, you'd be called a homophobe.
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What Alex achieves by engaging in this kind of argumentation is to make the argument that all candidates who are not straight white men are not on a ballot because of their qualifications or because they earned it.
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They're just there to make people like Alex look bad when they criticize them.
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This is a very passive and cowardly way of arguing that only people who look like you deserve to be in leadership positions.
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Also, in a much more concrete way, this is Alex trying to preemptively excuse some really racist things he's going to be saying.
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Oh, it's going to be bad.
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It's very possible to criticize her record and not be racist, but it seems impossible for Alex to do that.
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That's a good point.
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So when he sets the stage by saying that all criticisms of her are going to be called racist, he's preparing his audience to dismiss valid complaints that his criticisms and those of people in his sector are in fact racist as hell.
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No!
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Yes.
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I don't have any other response.
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I don't have any response other than, yeah, obviously.
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There's plenty of people who are criticizing Harris and are not being accused of being racist because they're not doing it in a racist fashion.
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Yeah, well, it's hard to imagine not doing something in a racist fashion if you are a racist.
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Like, that's one of the fundamental things they don't understand.
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The idea of somebody criticizing them without a racial component makes no sense to a racist because everything has a racial component.
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Yeah, you might be onto something.
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So Alex claims that he knew that Harris was going to be the VP pick going back to the primaries.
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Of course.
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And I'm going to play him saying that, and then I'm going to laugh at his face.
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You can see the preparation.
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I said during the Democratic primaries last year that it would be Kamala Harris because Jeff Zucker...
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And Jeff Bezos and all of the big Silicon Valley gang and the Chi-Coms want her.
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Of course.
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Because she will do whatever they tell her to do, just like Joe Biden.
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So it's no longer, oh, InfoWars exactly predicted this over a year ago.
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We didn't predict it.
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They were all admitting that this was one of their main plans.
► 00:28:08
Alex spent way more time talking about Bloomberg.
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It's no longer.
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Do you remember when Bloomberg ate something weird and Alex spent like a week talking about it?
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He spent so much more time about Bloomberg.
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But he ate something weird.
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And he also, like, he didn't say that Kamala Harris was going to be the pick.
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He was like talking about Hillary was the shadow candidate with Michelle Obama.
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Yeah.
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Look, the point is, like, Alex has said just about everything in the course of Democratic debates and primaries, and so now he can say, like, I knew it all along!
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Of course!
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Of course!
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Harris was not, like, in his top tier of, maybe for a minute, maybe for a minute, but that wasn't his consistent, like, this is what it's gonna be!
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It doesn't matter who it was, he predicted it.
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Absolutely.
► 00:28:56
So now, this is such a great illustration of how stupid Alex is, and why, like, legitimately, if anybody takes Alex's show seriously, they need to wake the fuck up.
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But they're gonna rob us of our liberty, our freedom, our whole future, and then Kamala Harris, we gotta get these other clips, because I saw her say this on MSNBC, and I had the guys look, and we've been able to find it, but here's the quote that reminded me, and I've seen a bunch of other Democratic Party operatives say this, you've all seen them say this.
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Where we gotta, once we get rid of Trump, we gotta get his supporters and outlaw him and hunt him down and level him and destroy him and demolish him.
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I mean, these are the terms.
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And once Trump's gone, this is Kamala Harris, and once Trump's gone and we have regained our rightful place in the White House, look out if you supported him and endorsed his actions because we'll be coming for you next.
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He will feel the vengeance of a nation.
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No stone will be left unturned as we seek you out.
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In every corner of this great nation.
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For it is you who have betrayed us, Kamala Harris.
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June 18th, 2020.
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This is a fake quote from a satirical website called bustatroll.org.
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And Alex is reporting on it as if it's a real thing that Kamala Harris said.
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Sure.
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This is just embarrassing levels of sloppiness and inaccuracy on his part.
► 00:30:13
And this is one of those instances where he has to know as he reads those words that there's no chance that's a real quote.
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He has to know that he's actively lying to his audience as he reads that.
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Like, he just doesn't care.
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How could you say those words and think they were a real quote?
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No kidding.
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According to that website's about page, quote, everything on this website is fiction.
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It's not a lie and it's not fake news because it's not real.
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If you believe that it's real, you should have your head examined.
► 00:30:43
It seems that the mission of this website is to create fake things that appeal to conservatives, particularly scared old white men, who will believe these lies to be true.
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After they've accepted these fake stories, it's then revealed that the stories are made up, at which point these tricked people will feel shame and realize that they're too gullible.
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Which is what they do, right, Dan?
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This is basically laid out in their about page, and while I do accept that the first part of their plan works pretty well, and we see it working with Alex, the second part is flawed.
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It's tough.
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There is no shame.
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There is no recognition of getting tricked.
► 00:31:16
The response to something like this is denial and rationalization.
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The intentions of this site may be good, but I don't think the site is going to have the effect that it wants, and it may unintentionally be part of the problem it intends to help solve.
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The expectation that you would feel ashamed if it was revealed that you believed something that was fake doesn't translate to folks who have made a habit of accepting false information.
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Based on appeals to emotion.
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Made accepting false information part of their core identity.
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In this case, literal truth may be that this is fake as hell.
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But what's more powerful is that it feels true to these scared old white dudes that Alex is repeating the fake quote to.
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It resonates with them, and it accurately reveals what they're afraid of, so it must be real.
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Even if you reveal that it's from an explicitly satirical site, they'll just say that the words themselves may be fake, but the sentiment behind them are right on, and it's actually what they believe.
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You know, it's actually what Harris believes.
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So even though the words are fake, it's what she actually...
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Right.
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And the worst part is, I kind of wish that was actually what she believed.
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No.
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No, you don't.
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That would be bad.
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No.
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So that, to me, is just an outrageous...
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Alex is so sloppy.
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Just say it was from Thomas Jefferson.
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Why not?
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It's the same thing.
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Just say Thomas Jefferson said it about King George and we'll move on with our lives.
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I just don't understand how someone can allow themselves to have that loose of standards.
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It's amazing.
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It's not standards.
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There are no standards.
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You would have to have standards before they could be loosened or tightened in either direction.
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Yeah.
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And it continues.
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Alex ends up playing a clip of Harris saying, Something.
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And he pretends that it's something entirely different.
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Here's Kamala Paris.
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I mean, there's a bunch of these clips saying that she will have executive action to take your semi-autos.
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Here she is.
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Let's look at the facts.
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One in four police officers who was killed in the mile of duty by gunfire is killed by assault.
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Let's look at the fact that there are 4 million assault weapons in the United States which were imported here from foreign countries.
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So I am also prepared, and I'm announcing for the first time today here with you, to take executive action to ban the import of assault weapons.
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That clip doesn't say what Alex said that it was going to say.
► 00:33:53
He said that she was going to take executive actions to take your guns when the actual clip is her saying that she would be in favor of executive action to ban imports of semi-automatic weapons.
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That's almost like a nationalist enough, protectionist enough idea for Alex to be like...
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Fuck yeah.
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We need homegrown American-made assault rifles.
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Well, what you're doing now is realizing how they would spin it.
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Of course.
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If Trump said that, of course.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, he wants gun manufacturing to be in America where it belongs.
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Remington or something.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Totally.
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What's more important to me is the...
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I mean, it's more or less gaslighting.
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It's like, here is what this clip is.
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The clip is something completely different.
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And we're not going to address...
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Why bother?
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Yeah.
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So Alex takes calls on this show.
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He spends some time going to calls.
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And one of these calls is the funniest thing I've heard in a really long time.
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Probably the audio version of A Tiny Bullhorn.
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Okay.
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It's really good.
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Okay.
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But it doesn't come until later.
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God damn it, Dan.
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This first call, this guy has a movement that he's a part of.
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Sure.
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Alex does not know what it is, and I think that the caller might be disappointed.
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Robert in Florida.
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Robert, you're on the air.
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Welcome.
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Hello, sir.
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How are you doing?
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It's an honor to speak with you, Alex Jones.
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My name is Robert Christensen.
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I'm over here in Spring Hill, Florida, and I was the spark to something that is taking off like a wildfire in this area called Operation Flag Drop.
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Tell us about it.
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Ooh, that pause.
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That pause was, I think, I think there was an expectation that Alex's response would be like, you're the guy?
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You're the Operation Flag Drop guy?
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It's taking hold like wildfire!
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It certainly is.
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Do you know what that is?
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No.
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Alright, neither does Alex.
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Of course not.
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But we get an explanation.
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It's kind of boring.
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Tell us about it.
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Alright, and pretty much it's every Friday, 6pm to 8pm.
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Okay, every Friday, you get people together, you get to a main intersection, and you do your love for Trump.
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Get out, get people active, get people on the ground everywhere, everywhere.
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6 p.m. to 8 p.m. to show the polls are lying.
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Also, expose the scandemic for what it is.
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Sure.
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And, you know, bring people together in the community, because, you know...
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Promote your small businesses that are coming out to those flag drops.
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Promote your local candidates that are running for election in those areas.
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See who stands with Trump.
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Sir, this is pure genius, and if Trump won't have the rallies, because these people are too cowardly, we all have to start having these rallies for Trump in America everywhere.
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You've invented protesting?
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What are you doing?
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Like, growing up in central Missouri, in Columbia, my parents, every week, every Wednesday after work, We'd go to the corner of Stadium and Providence, which is the biggest intersection in town, and have, like, honk for peace against the Iraq war signs.
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There were a group of, like, liberal hippie types who would meet up and have an anti-war demonstration every week.
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It's a very common thing.
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No, wildfire.
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Catching like wildfire.
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Operation Flag Drop.
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I have got an amazing idea for you, Dan.
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If only these dumb hippies in Columbia had given it an Operation something name.
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If only they had dressed it up as if there was some kind of amazing innovation.
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Military operation behind it.
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Jesus.
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Ridiculous.
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All right.
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Here's what I've got for you.
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All right.
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I've got an idea.
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Now, every Friday at 6. Now, maybe 6.15.
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Sometimes the 18 holes.
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Okay.
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I get off work at 3. Alright, then I play a nice 18, sometimes at 6.15, I'll get there at 6.15pm, and we are going to take it to the goddamn, I don't know who we're taking it to, I guess the virus?
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Anyways.
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But it's going to have to stop at 8. I have to pick up my kids from the afternoon.
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Jordan, you have some great ideas, but I am actually the spark behind something.
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Okay.
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What's your wildfire?
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I should tell you about Operation Inkwell.
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Okay.
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All right.
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So here is what happens.
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All right.
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I'm listening.
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Me and a couple of like-minded people get together.
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Okay.
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I like it.
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We take paper.
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Watch out.
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Pens.
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What are you going to do with those?
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We write requests to our representatives.
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And we send them.
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Do you mean like a letter-writing campaign?
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I'm just imagining these fucking ding-dongs just discovering the most basic versions of civics.
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Holy shit!
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Let me tell you something about this change.org.
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You can put a petition in there for them to stop with the virus stuff!
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I'm amazed.
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And actually, Alex ends up stealing this idea later.
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Of course!
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He decides to do an Operation Flag Drop rally this coming weekend at the Capitol.
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He's so stupid.
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Yeah, he just steals everything.
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So anyway, the country is under siege.
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Sure.
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And that means that Alex has got to complain about race stuff.
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This nation is under siege.
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They've created a normalcy bias where we just think things are...
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Okay, and that we're still in a free country and the social contract hasn't been broken.
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It's been broken by the deep state, by the globalists, by the Democrats, by all the slobs that have not been working for decades and expect us to take care of them that want to hold us hostage.
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And now the Democrats are holding the country hostage, saying they're going to contest the election.
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They know there's going to be a landslide.
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And so they're going to have states secede.
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And they're going to trigger race war on the back of George Floyd.
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Whereas I can show you four videos that came out just since last night of white people being executed just because they're white.
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And white people being beaten.
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But you know what?
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I can't even bring myself to do it.
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Good.
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Don't.
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But I will because we have to.
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Wrong narrative.
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U.S. mainstream media.
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Mom on murder of a five-year-old white boy.
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Shot in the back of the head in his own front yard by the black neighbor because he rode his bike through the edge of his yard.
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Killed him execution-style in front of his two seven- and eight-year-old sisters.
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The father, looking out the window, thought it was a joke, thought it must have been a cap gun, but it wasn't.
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Zero coverage in the mainstream media.
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This happened, what, four or five days ago?
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Only hit the real media yesterday.
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Nothing I'm going to say here should be taken to imply that I think this story is anything less than a tragedy and a horrific crime.
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In instances like this, we find ourselves in a position where we have to take the story that Alex is telling, and often that's an exaggerated or deceitful narrative that he's building, and when we push back against that, it can sometimes feel like we're minimizing the reality of the underlying story, which is not my intention.
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Ultimately, it should never be ignored that there is a child who died here, and that there is no reason that that needed to happen.
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There's no indication from the news that I can find that this five-year-old child was killed because the child was white.
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This is Alex's editorial position, where any crime that's committed by a non-white person against a white person includes a racial motive, whereas any crime a white person commits against a non-white person probably had nothing to do with race.
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Now, I know that Alex isn't saying explicitly that this child was executed because they were white.
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He's just heavily, heavily, heavily implying it.
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It's the only story that he gets to after the preface of I have these stories about white people who were executed because they're white.
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He says that the child was killed execution style.
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Linguistically, the link is there to make that connection.
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There's nothing in this story that I can find at this point that would support that reporting.
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A KMOV4 story on this says, So there's something to this story.
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unknown at this point.
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What has happened here is that the right-wing media surrounding this case is the normal refrain of the media is ignoring this story because the victim's white and thus it doesn't fit their narrative.
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This is a way of indirectly attempting to invalidate the stories that you do hear about violence perpetrated against non-white people, which you must only be hearing about because it's the media's agenda to tell you those stories.
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Framing this story this way is a disservice to the public and further it's kind of insulting to the victim and his family.
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It's not clear what the situation is here and for people like Alex to use this story as a prop for their white video And in terms of what is different, in terms of a lot of people's response to this, it's that the guy got arrested.
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And it's a horrible murder.
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And he is going to face consequences for it.
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Obviously, the ideal situation would be nobody is murdered.
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But seeing as we don't live in a perfect world, it would be good if justice was dealt out appropriately.
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So when you have...
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Things like the cases of Ahmaud Arbery or Breonna Taylor.
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These cases are really resonant for people because there isn't action that's being taken against the people who committed these crimes.
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There's no consequences.
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Right.
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They're allowed to murder again.
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Yes, and presumably you'd have a similar response to that regardless of the race or ethnicity of the victim.
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This case with the child is horrifying because it's a child, obviously.
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It doesn't require as much maybe outrage from people because the system is working as it's supposed to.
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The guy got arrested.
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We'll figure out what the details of the story are as that information becomes available.
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And I don't understand why that's so complicated.
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I can't.
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I just...
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I mean, if you...
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Here's what I was thinking.
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If you say to me that they're going to want to try and start a race war on the back of George Floyd, I'm going to swing.
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I'm going to swing.
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If we were in public and he said that out loud, I would have taken a swing immediately.
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I almost took a swing at you when he said that.
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I feel like we might need to...
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Fucked up.
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I might need to get you on like a yoga regimen or something because...
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Because listening to racist shit on a...
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Well, I mean, quite frankly, you mostly listen to it when I'm the only person within swinging distance.
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So for my safety, you might need...
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That's fair.
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You might need to take a Quaalude before the show.
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I would never hurt your play-out stand.
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I appreciate that.
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My bonsai is still very sensitive.
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Yeah, look, I understand that instinct and that response that you have.
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And to me, I just think it's a very tired game of misrepresenting cases in order to be like, the media isn't covering this.
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I could find plenty of stories in outlets that you might call mainstream media about this.
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It's just, what is there to advocate for?
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Right.
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Other than don't kill people.
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And I think everybody's on board with that, and I think we can certainly get some mileage out of that.
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There's nothing really that needs to be...
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I mean, not nothing, but there isn't an endemic social ill that people can galvanize around, like...
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Cops shouldn't put their knees on people's necks.
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Or cops shouldn't no-knock warrant.
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You shouldn't shoot somebody that you're chasing down because you suspect that they might have robbed something.
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Those are far more social issues that we can get involved with and have a conversation about that could possibly lead to some good.
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If you want the media to have a large conversation about don't shoot a child, okay.
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Good conversation, guys.
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We did it.
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Anyway.
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Man, I'm so grateful that you dig into it and you figure out what's really going on, because at this point in time, I'm beyond bad faith arguments.
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Like, if somebody's whatabouting me about that, I'd say, that's a tragedy.
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You don't care.
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Let's move on.
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Because he doesn't care.
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We know that Alex doesn't care.
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Exactly.
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And you can tell because of this.
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So this poor little white boy, no one will ever care about his name.
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He's got a GoFundMe that our camera guy actually gave some money to.
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Pitiful.
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Almost no money's been given to him.
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If he was black, it'd be $50 million right now.
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But it'd all be directed to Kamala Harris, who likes to lock black folks up.
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So, here's the two indications that you have that Alex doesn't give a shit about this.
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I am very rich, but my cameraman actually donated to the GoFundMe.
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One thing is that Alex saying that his cameraman donated to it means that he didn't.
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Exactly.
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Because Alex would have said, I donated.
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There's just no money in there.
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Who knows about this that could give money to this GoFundMe?
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The GoFundMe that I found was...
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Way over its goal.
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Obviously, I think that these sorts of things are always very difficult to think about, even.
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What kind of trauma and grief are you dealing with?
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There's no possibility of putting a monetary value on any of that.
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But it certainly wasn't nothing, the way Alex is portraying it.
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Now, the two things that I think are indicative of him not caring are, one...
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He obviously didn't give any of his own money.
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Yep.
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Second, he doesn't know the kid's name.
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And that's why he's saying no one will ever know his name, because he realizes, ah, shit.
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Yeah.
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That's his little out card.
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Like, hey, I'm going to say this in a dramatic way.
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No one will ever know his name.
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What's his name?
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I don't know.
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He doesn't know any of the details of this story until he starts cold reading it.
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Of course.
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And whatever.
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Anyway, Alex will try to pretend that he's not racist.
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Right.
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How?
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But when he starts looking at a picture of the perpetrator, or the alleged perpetrator in this case, in case he hasn't gone to trial, he's just talking about how he looks.
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Unbelievable, ladies and gentlemen.
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They can't even hide what they are.
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Demons.
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We got a demon problem, folks, not a racial problem.
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But some groups do seem to be more susceptible to the infestation.
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Come on!
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What are you doing?
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Very, very sad.
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Very, very sad.
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Some groups.
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Some groups.
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Some groups are more susceptible to demons.
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Right.
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Look.
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Hey, listen.
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White people, they're susceptible to demons, but their lack of melanin is what keeps the demons out.
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The demons need melanin.
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They get sunburnt, Dan.
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That's the issue.
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How do you say something like that and not recognize that you're a gigantic bigot?
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How do you say something like, we don't have a race problem, we have a demon problem?
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Nah, it should be said that certain groups are more susceptible to demon possession than others.
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We do have a race problem.
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Okay, so some races are more...
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Oh, now I see what you're getting at, Dan.
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I think you're making a very good point there.
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Now, I am absolutely not a racist.
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I believe everybody is wonderful.
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But I have created a system wherein I blame demons for things.
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Sure.
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And also, all the races that I think are gross and scary are full of demons.
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No, no, no!
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No, no, no.
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It's not my fault.
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It's just that after studying all of these heads, Dan, I can tell that if the certain shape of your cranium is different, you're more susceptible to demons.
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Now, it just so happens that my baseline is white people.
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So, anyway, Alex is going viral with that video of him with the tiny bullhorn.
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Loved it.
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And he loves it.
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People know that they twist and they deceive.
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But we have the full video.
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Or your tiny bullhorn?
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At infowars.com and band.video.
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Tiny bullhorn?
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Austin Greenbelts reopened after mayor illegally sends in contact tracers.
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See all the fake rangers and all the police standing by?
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The police were the ones saying it was pure bull.
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They called seven police cars on me.
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And that family was able to march in.
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But the media says I screamed at the family and doesn't show you them high-fying me.
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I was mean to the Hispanic family.
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I think...
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I don't care about this at all.
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Have I ever told you Alex is my hero?
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He's doing the normal game that he plays.
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This standard...
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It was a five-minute video.
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They played one minute of it.
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They took it out of context.
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Yeah, the context is you got mad because your wife...
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They asked that she had a registration to go into the fucking green belt, and you went back with a tiny bullhorn looking to cause a scene.
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You made a scene.
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The teens didn't quite give you the juice that you were looking for.
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You got all sweaty, and you're an embarrassment.
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You went back to scream at the manager with a tiny bullhorn.
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Of course everyone's going to make fun of you.
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How dare you?
► 00:51:40
So, that's embarrassing, but probably not as embarrassing as Congressional Loser, next Alex Jones guest, Deanna Lorraine.
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Deanna Lorraine joins us.
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Thanks for coming on.
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What do you want to tackle first?
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I don't know.
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You want to tackle the Australian cutoff when they pretended it was a bad feed?
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Or we can talk about communist Gavin Grusom?
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So one thing that's really funny is that Deanna Lorraine's Twitter handle is still Deanna for Congress.
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She lost her primary.
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Oh, she's going to come back.
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She's going to make a comeback, for sure.
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So she talks about the Australian cutoff there.
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And so what happened is that on Australian TV...
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I don't remember what station, but they were doing a segment on COVID-19 denial folks, and they're like, well, why not just interview someone who believes it's a hoax?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So they had a show she was invited on, and she's talking about...
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Bunch of nonsense.
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Sure.
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And in the middle of it, her Skype goes out.
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And they're like, we shouldn't have had this person on.
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So the anchors get into a little bit of a like, I don't know.
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Are we going to invite her back or just say a big no on that one?
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It's clear.
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I mean, if you're looking at the video, like her video freezes.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And the sound becomes like spotty.
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It's on her end.
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Yeah, she's an idiot.
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And so she believes that there's a conspiracy going on.
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Sure.
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And they cut her off.
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It was a scalar attack.
► 00:53:05
They claimed that it was a tech.
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She's going to complain to Alex about that.
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So, Australian invited me.
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How kind of them.
► 00:53:14
I put up a tweet, okay?
► 00:53:15
A couple weeks ago, I put up a tweet.
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Once I found out that they were going on another lockdown for six weeks, they were not even letting people go outside of their homes, okay, except for maybe essential services here and there.
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And they said they were having a wall of steel, meaning police forces, all the way outside the city of Melbourne to make sure nobody comes in or out.
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So I put up a tweet defending their individual liberties, saying, hey, this is like prison.
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This is basically prison.
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You know, Australians, fight.
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Fight for your liberties.
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So the Australian...
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While her Skype comes back, let's go ahead and roll the video of her on Australian television when they cut it off, claiming a technical difficulty.
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Biden has trouble speaking.
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They claim it's a technical difficulty.
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Here it is.
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Wow.
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That's hilarious.
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That.
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That is audio of someone slipping on a banana.
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Oh my god!
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There's a conspiracy.
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Oh my god!
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In the middle of complaining about a conspiracy to cut her off.
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You demonstrate that your Skype is terrible.
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Exactly.
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Get a new ISP.
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God damn it.
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Oh, you probably can't because you're in one of the areas where your team allowed them to monopolize everything.
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You idiot.
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This is pretty delightful.
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Oh man, that's great.
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So because she's gone and they can't get her back on the line, Alex has no other choice but to play the video.
► 00:54:48
It's a conspiracy.
► 00:54:49
He plays the video of her on the Australian.
► 00:54:51
Of course he does.
► 00:54:52
We also have the president of Tanzania who also has...
► 00:55:01
I think the link is dropping out because I don't think I should be giving her any airtime.
► 00:55:07
Well, Ali.
► 00:55:08
Come on.
► 00:55:09
Ali.
► 00:55:09
That is ridiculous.
► 00:55:10
Ali, you knew that interview was happening last night.
► 00:55:12
You can't then just go and say, oh, I don't like what she's saying now.
► 00:55:16
She has a right to her opinion.
► 00:55:17
Do you know that there are complete whack jobs in this country who think the same thing?
► 00:55:21
So, is that her Skype breaking up like it just did, or were they killing her now?
► 00:55:24
I know that the United Nations censors people.
► 00:55:27
Come on, Alex.
► 00:55:29
You even said it.
► 00:55:29
You shouldn't have said it.
► 00:55:31
Come on.
► 00:55:31
You have to play it off.
► 00:55:32
Now they're cutting her off from my show.
► 00:55:34
You gotta play it.
► 00:55:35
You gotta play it.
► 00:55:36
Alex doesn't.
► 00:55:37
He, like, I will say, you know, it's a rare give it up for the Smalley Pirates moment, but he does say, I think it was just her Skype.
► 00:55:49
Even Alex has to be like, well, you did it on my show, so I was going to give you a pass on that one, but then you dropped out.
► 00:55:56
If your Skype kept working, we could have spun a conspiracy about Australia here, but unfortunately, you completely shit the bed.
► 00:56:03
You're too shitty for me!
► 00:56:07
I love it.
► 00:56:08
I love it.
► 00:56:10
Alex can't get Deanna back on, so he has to go to calls.
► 00:56:13
He goes back to calls, and this...
► 00:56:15
I was like, uh-oh, uh-oh.
► 00:56:18
If we're able to get her Skype stabilized, we'll get her back with us.
► 00:56:23
Let's go ahead and talk to another caller.
► 00:56:25
Let's go ahead and speak with Jacob in Georgia.
► 00:56:29
Thanks for holding.
► 00:56:30
Go ahead.
► 00:56:36
Yes, sir.
► 00:56:37
Go ahead.
► 00:56:37
Oh, no.
► 00:56:40
All right.
► 00:56:41
We have been doing this for eight years.
► 00:56:43
Here's what I'm going to do.
► 00:56:44
I'm just going to say your name.
► 00:56:45
I have to applaud Alex.
► 00:56:48
He doesn't end up blowing up about this.
► 00:56:51
It's some little form of progress.
► 00:56:55
Sure.
► 00:56:55
Because when he said...
► 00:56:57
Okay.
► 00:56:57
Like, there at the end, I was like, oh, no.
► 00:56:59
Oh, no.
► 00:57:00
He's about to go off air.
► 00:57:01
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 00:57:02
There was that long pause.
► 00:57:03
There was the, can you hear me?
► 00:57:04
Oh, no.
► 00:57:05
Those are, like, triggers for him.
► 00:57:07
So he talks to this guy, and I don't really even give a shit what he has to say, but this is, like, mic down for this, because this was so funny.
► 00:57:16
Oh, wait.
► 00:57:16
He is complaining.
► 00:57:18
He's complaining about this college.
► 00:57:21
He goes to Kennesaw State in Georgia.
► 00:57:25
And apparently you have to get like a temperature reading band or something like that.
► 00:57:31
I don't know if this is true or not, but whatever.
► 00:57:33
Anyway, this caller is saying that he's heard that that might happen.
► 00:57:36
This is very funny.
► 00:57:37
I'll talk about that with our guest in a moment.
► 00:57:39
What do you make of the New Jersey governor just mandated the temperature tracking armbands?
► 00:57:43
And you're saying you're hearing that at college in Georgia?
► 00:57:48
Yeah.
► 00:57:49
It's crazy, man.
► 00:57:51
Hang up the phone.
► 00:57:54
Does your wife have something to say?
► 00:57:58
He's gone.
► 00:58:00
All right.
► 00:58:01
Deanna Lorraine is here.
► 00:58:02
We're flying her to Austin next week to co-host the show with me in a couple days.
► 00:58:06
Oh, boy.
► 00:58:08
Don't think that was that guy's wife.
► 00:58:10
I think that was his mom.
► 00:58:11
Oh.
► 00:58:12
Oh, my God.
► 00:58:14
Oh, Dan, you're going to kill me.
► 00:58:15
You put those back to back?
► 00:58:17
I go through this chronologically.
► 00:58:19
It was a tough end to the show.
► 00:58:23
Oh, man.
► 00:58:25
You get off this really weird, self-contradicting interview with Deanna Lorraine, and then someone's mom tells them to hang up the phone.
► 00:58:36
You used to hear that a lot on Loveline.
► 00:58:38
Back in the day, listening to Loveline, there would be calls a lot of the time.
► 00:58:42
But that made more sense, because it was late at night.
► 00:58:45
Yeah, that's really funny.
► 00:58:50
I got the phone.
► 00:58:51
Does your wife have something to say?
► 00:58:53
This guy is like a freshman in college.
► 00:58:56
He's probably not married.
► 00:58:58
I mean, it's possible.
► 00:58:59
He could be married?
► 00:59:00
It's not impossible.
► 00:59:01
Could be married.
► 00:59:02
I'm using context clues.
► 00:59:03
One of them is that he said he's from Georgia.
► 00:59:06
So he's going to KSU in Georgia, presumably living with the parents.
► 00:59:11
Right.
► 00:59:11
You know, that's an in-state situation.
► 00:59:14
Sounds right.
► 00:59:15
Yeah.
► 00:59:16
I don't know.
► 00:59:17
Goddamn.
► 00:59:17
I can't imagine.
► 00:59:18
That's so funny.
► 00:59:20
What a bummer.
► 00:59:22
That's so funny.
► 00:59:23
So he does get Deanna back on, and they have a stupid interview that I don't think is worth listening to.
► 00:59:29
So we get to the 13th here on Thursday, and Alex is super excited that the trending on Twitter has continued, and he continues just to say that they're taking him out of context.
► 00:59:42
So Alex Jones.
► 00:59:48
No, that sounds right.
► 01:00:09
No, it wasn't random.
► 01:00:11
Oh, that's fair.
► 01:00:11
I would say it's not random.
► 01:00:13
Although, in a sense, it is still random, because it's just a coincidence that his wife was...
► 01:00:19
Sure.
► 01:00:20
Yeah.
► 01:00:20
I mean, I think I would replace random with pointless.
► 01:00:23
Yeah, pointless is a good word.
► 01:00:25
Yeah.
► 01:00:25
So Alex gets on the show here, and I'm noticing an evolution of a lie.
► 01:00:32
And that is...
► 01:00:33
So there was that 2010 Rockefeller report about...
► 01:00:38
Various situations that could come up.
► 01:00:40
Trends in the world vis-a-vis the developing world and technology.
► 01:00:43
One of those scenarios was titled Lockstep.
► 01:00:46
Another was Stronger Together.
► 01:00:48
There were four scenarios that they laid out and tried to conceptualize challenges that would come up in the world.
► 01:00:56
Alex initially took this as not...
► 01:01:00
A bunch of scenarios, but in fact it's only the one.
► 01:01:04
The plan.
► 01:01:04
That looks kind of similar in some ways, superficially, because there's an outbreak in it.
► 01:01:10
So that one was the lockstep one.
► 01:01:12
So his first volley was ignoring the context of the documentary.
► 01:01:18
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
► 01:01:19
The second evolution of it was to say that it was a plan.
► 01:01:23
Lockstep was the plan.
► 01:01:24
Right.
► 01:01:24
There was the Rockefeller 2010 plan lockstep document, which is nonsense.
► 01:01:29
And now there's the third evolution of it, where he's just making up quotes from it.
► 01:01:35
I love it.
► 01:01:35
And this is directly from the Rockefeller Foundation lockstep, 2010.
► 01:01:40
Quote, under the guise of a pandemic, we will create a prison state on a planetary scale.
► 01:01:49
That is not in there.
► 01:01:52
That's a quote from David Icke's website.
► 01:01:55
I don't even know if it's original content on David Icke's website.
► 01:01:59
That's someone else's editorial discussion of this document as opposed to being actually from it.
► 01:02:07
This is just made up shit.
► 01:02:08
This is sloppy.
► 01:02:10
I wish more of those simulations on what could happen just included, like, well, obviously, if this happens, we're going to create a police state.
► 01:02:20
I mean, why wouldn't we do that?
► 01:02:21
Yeah, well, that's the only option for us.
► 01:02:23
Yeah, so we've got some big guests coming up today.
► 01:02:25
Sure.
► 01:02:26
This is underwhelming.
► 01:02:27
Whenever you start off by saying big guests.
► 01:02:29
We got Daryl Runson or whatever?
► 01:02:31
No, Rundis is not back.
► 01:02:34
Now, we have a bunch of big guests today.
► 01:02:36
Jay Dyer is going to be interviewing, very well-known, Top of the food chain, comedian Sam Hyde.
► 01:02:44
Top of the food chain!
► 01:02:46
Sam Hyde.
► 01:02:49
You're somebody who worked in comedy a bit.
► 01:02:53
Maybe not in the upper echelons.
► 01:02:55
You and I are both people who have wanted to do stand-up as a career.
► 01:03:00
And by virtue of that, you familiarize yourself with the top acts.
► 01:03:05
Certainly doing stand-up all the time.
► 01:03:07
I was on the festival circuit a bunch.
► 01:03:10
I went around.
► 01:03:11
I met a lot of comics.
► 01:03:12
Met famous people.
► 01:03:14
Talked to famous people.
► 01:03:16
Consider someone by the name of Sam Hyde to be the top of the food chain.
► 01:03:21
Well, let me put it to you this way.
► 01:03:23
It took me a good seven years before I got onto the food chain.
► 01:03:28
The bottom level of the food chain is where I was.
► 01:03:30
And I think I knew just about everybody there.
► 01:03:33
He wasn't even there.
► 01:03:35
So I'm going to go with no.
► 01:03:36
Sam Hyde is a comedian, but I think it's more along the lines of sketch and prank kind of stuff.
► 01:03:43
Also, he's the guy who his picture is used often on 4chan whenever there's a mass shooter.
► 01:03:49
They'll use a picture of him as fake identifying of the shooter.
► 01:03:53
It's sort of a meme.
► 01:03:55
He's like a basic looking white dude.
► 01:03:58
A picture of him has become a meme that's used to try and trick people into thinking they've identified a shooter.
► 01:04:04
So often that...
► 01:04:06
So that's how we got here.
► 01:04:07
Top of the food chain.
► 01:04:10
We're not going to listen to any of that.
► 01:04:12
I just thought it was funny to...
► 01:04:13
Top of the food chain.
► 01:04:14
We've got another big guest though.
► 01:04:16
Ali Alexander, journalist.
► 01:04:20
And analysis expert will be joining us to talk about Kamala Harris and just how evil she is and what's up with her.
► 01:04:26
That's really exciting.
► 01:04:27
What is up with her?
► 01:04:29
You're not going to learn that from Ali Alexander.
► 01:04:31
What's up with her?
► 01:04:32
Anyway, Ali Alexander is going to be coming up a little bit later.
► 01:04:35
That's really fun.
► 01:04:35
I'd like to remind you that he was the third wheel on the tricycle.
► 01:04:42
Uh-huh.
► 01:04:42
That was Laura Loomer.
► 01:04:45
Yeah.
► 01:04:45
Jacob Wall.
► 01:04:46
The luminaries.
► 01:04:47
And Ali Alexander were the three people who made that documentary where they tried to prove that Ilhan Omar was married to her brother.
► 01:04:54
It was a real embarrassment.
► 01:04:56
See?
► 01:04:56
And that's the sort of thing you should never really be able to live down.
► 01:04:59
No.
► 01:05:00
But somehow, in Ali Alexander's world...
► 01:05:02
Shake it off.
► 01:05:03
Just move forward.
► 01:05:04
Turns out he's shaken off a whole lot more than that.
► 01:05:06
I believe it.
► 01:05:07
We'll get into it in a little bit.
► 01:05:07
I believe it.
► 01:05:08
I'm going to pitch Laura Loomer this.
► 01:05:10
All right.
► 01:05:11
Everybody knows about the squad.
► 01:05:13
That's the trick.
► 01:05:14
You gotta get a good name.
► 01:05:16
You gotta get some good branding going.
► 01:05:18
Add a couple more women.
► 01:05:20
Call yourself the Luminaries.
► 01:05:22
Done.
► 01:05:23
That's not bad.
► 01:05:24
Done.
► 01:05:24
One.
► 01:05:25
One every election.
► 01:05:26
New political party.
► 01:05:28
Her, Deanna Lorraine.
► 01:05:31
That one green lady who's a QAnon thing?
► 01:05:34
Yeah, toss her in there.
► 01:05:36
So, I'm a fan of Before Sunrise, Before Sunset, Waking Life.
► 01:05:42
You're a huge Ethan Hawke guy.
► 01:05:43
I am.
► 01:05:44
A big Ethan Hawke guy from way back.
► 01:05:47
I also like Richard Linklater.
► 01:05:48
Of course.
► 01:05:49
I think he's done some great work.
► 01:05:51
Sure.
► 01:05:51
Some of it, maybe I'm a little bit iffy on.
► 01:05:54
I think Boyhood could have been better, but I respect what he was trying to do.
► 01:05:58
He did Coffee and Cigarettes, right?
► 01:06:00
No, that was Jarmusch.
► 01:06:01
That's Jarmusch, that's right.
► 01:06:03
I liked Scanner Darkly.
► 01:06:06
Scanner Darkly's pretty good.
► 01:06:09
Slacker's good.
► 01:06:10
Slacker's pretty good.
► 01:06:11
He's got a good track record.
► 01:06:13
He's a good filmmaker.
► 01:06:14
Unfortunately, two of his movies include Alex Cameos in the role he was born to play, which is Crazy Guy with Bullhorn.
► 01:06:22
We gotta redo those.
► 01:06:24
If Linklater isn't working right now on doing a tiny bullhorn, then I don't know.
► 01:06:31
What the fuck is the point anymore?
► 01:06:33
Waking Life was rotoscoped.
► 01:06:34
Yeah.
► 01:06:35
You can do it.
► 01:06:35
You can totally do that.
► 01:06:36
You can totally do it.
► 01:06:37
Go in there.
► 01:06:39
Director's Cut only changed tiny bullhorn.
► 01:06:42
Linklater.
► 01:06:42
Wait.
► 01:06:43
Scanner Darkly was rotoscoped, too.
► 01:06:45
Both of them are totally doable.
► 01:06:47
Totally doable.
► 01:06:48
Linklater, you know.
► 01:06:49
You're my boy.
► 01:06:49
You're my boy.
► 01:06:50
If you don't know about us by now, what are you doing?
► 01:06:53
We have one request from your big fan.
► 01:06:56
So anytime Alex brings up Linklater, I always like to try and, like, if it's worthwhile, I'll discuss it.
► 01:07:03
This actually created such an awesome mental picture.
► 01:07:09
One time!
► 01:07:09
Rick Linkletter was at my office, and he's a nice guy, an intellectual liberal, you know, at a certain level.
► 01:07:15
And Rick's defending me when I've been attacked by everybody else.
► 01:07:17
But he goes, you read Bertrand Russell?
► 01:07:19
And he got the book.
► 01:07:20
He's like, he's the greatest liberal ever.
► 01:07:23
I'm like, did you read where he said, set up world government and kill almost everybody to end war?
► 01:07:29
And he goes, Rick's like, well, I have seen some of those writings.
► 01:07:32
Very interesting.
► 01:07:33
You know, I've got to get going.
► 01:07:35
I've got to get going.
► 01:07:41
Is my office or his office?
► 01:07:42
I just remember that.
► 01:07:44
Yeah, sure you do.
► 01:07:44
Dan, you are bringing some bangers today.
► 01:07:46
That's fantastic.
► 01:07:47
Yeah, there's some really funny stuff happening.
► 01:07:50
It's not really meaty.
► 01:07:52
There's not a lot of substance.
► 01:07:53
This is fluff, and I love it.
► 01:07:56
Yeah, I just love the idea of Richard Linklater and Alex being there, and Alex is like, hey, you know that book that you're really into is all about genocide.
► 01:08:05
I gotta go.
► 01:08:08
No, no.
► 01:08:09
Here's the thing.
► 01:08:10
I kind of think he's accidentally, completely accurately...
► 01:08:13
Linklater just pulling his collar like, oh no, Alex is on to us about Bertrand Russell.
► 01:08:17
Here's the thing.
► 01:08:18
I think this is an honest, accurate representation of what happened.
► 01:08:21
He's just changing the tone.
► 01:08:23
Because here's how it sounds to me.
► 01:08:24
He says all that shit to Linklater, and Linklater goes like, yeah, you know, I've heard some of that stuff.
► 01:08:30
I'm gonna have to go.
► 01:08:31
I gotta go.
► 01:08:32
I shouldn't have cast you in my boots.
► 01:08:34
I'm gonna leave now.
► 01:08:35
I thought you were a fun weirdo.
► 01:08:37
Yeah.
► 01:08:37
Whoops.
► 01:08:38
Now you're a dick.
► 01:08:39
Yeah.
► 01:08:40
Yeah.
► 01:08:40
So, Alex is a free speech absolutist.
► 01:08:43
Sure, he's not.
► 01:08:44
He loves free speech.
► 01:08:45
He does not.
► 01:08:45
He thinks of the left and the SJWs are too sensitive and they want to cancel all the comedians for making jokes.
► 01:08:50
No, he wants to remove all people who disagree with him.
► 01:08:52
Alex is upset about Bill Burr.
► 01:08:55
Sure.
► 01:08:55
Now, I think Bill Burr's a good comedian.
► 01:08:56
He's against cancel culture.
► 01:08:58
And he's got courage to come out and criticize it in this landscape of cowards.
► 01:09:02
I mean, in a world of cowards, a person with any courage is a hero.
► 01:09:07
And that's a scary thing.
► 01:09:08
And when the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
► 01:09:11
When the government fears the people, there is liberty, as Thomas Jefferson said.
► 01:09:14
He did this whole special on Netflix, and he got into depopulation, and he said, let's just say what we want.
► 01:09:21
We need to depopulate the earth.
► 01:09:23
I swear, in my experience, Alex complains about comedians'jokes so much more than the imaginary PCSJWs he yells about who are apparently out to kill the First Amendment.
► 01:09:33
Oh, my God.
► 01:09:34
Michelle Wolfe makes a joke about getting an abortion, and Alex wants her damned to hell.
► 01:09:37
Bill Maher jokes about basically anything, and Alex pretends it's the official Democratic Party platform being revealed.
► 01:09:43
And now I guess Bill Burr said something Alex doesn't like.
► 01:09:47
I don't care.
► 01:09:48
Don't care.
► 01:09:48
I do want to say, though, that that is a fake Thomas Jefferson quote.
► 01:09:51
Yeah, I was going to say, I already knew that one right off the bat.
► 01:09:55
The library at Monticello includes this as one of their highlighted spurious quotes.
► 01:09:59
They're often attributed to Jefferson, but there's no evidence he ever said or wrote that.
► 01:10:03
They concluded that this quote is actually from a 1914 debate against socialism delivered by John Basil Barnhill that has been famously attached to Jefferson, as well as at other times Thomas Paine and Samuel Adams.
► 01:10:16
I would assume that's because no one cares about John Basil Barnhill.
► 01:10:20
They just want this to sound important.
► 01:10:22
Yeah, I don't think...
► 01:10:23
What did Barnhill do?
► 01:10:25
Didn't he...
► 01:10:26
Yeah, he had a 1914 debate against socialism.
► 01:10:28
Did he own the Colts in Baltimore?
► 01:10:31
Is that what happened?
► 01:10:32
No, I don't think so.
► 01:10:33
Man, he would not like my Andrew Jackson bit, Dan.
► 01:10:36
Jordan.
► 01:10:36
I don't think he would like that.
► 01:10:37
Somebody send him my Andrew Jackson bit.
► 01:10:39
I want him to complain about me.
► 01:10:40
That'd be fun.
► 01:10:40
Jordan.
► 01:10:41
Dan.
► 01:10:42
You said that I've been bringing bangers.
► 01:10:44
You have.
► 01:10:44
And I think that a lot of this has been pretty good.
► 01:10:46
But this was the clip, actually.
► 01:10:48
This next clip is the one that I thought was going to be, like, really the most fun.
► 01:10:53
And now I'm really self-conscious about it.
► 01:10:55
This, I think, is incredibly funny.
► 01:10:57
It's a little bit longer.
► 01:10:58
It's a little bit drawn out.
► 01:11:00
But Alex is trying to promote his upcoming rally, and things fall apart.
► 01:11:05
We're going to be out there with our American flags, Old Glory, Texas flag, you name it, and that will be tomorrow.
► 01:11:14
When I went down there this Sunday to what's known as the Hill of Life, it's like a three-quarters.
► 01:11:20
When I went down there this Saturday, it's a quarter-mile hill.
► 01:11:24
When I went down to the Hill of Life, this...
► 01:11:27
Again, I'm cutting a promo Hill of Life on here.
► 01:11:31
I have tendencies to...
► 01:11:33
When they're doing stuff, I have a tendency to watch the screen and look for the address so I can give it out.
► 01:11:38
And I just don't have the address.
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I'm not going to do this now.
► 01:11:40
We'll do it later.
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Just shut it down.
► 01:11:42
Shut it down.
► 01:11:45
Not a big deal.
► 01:11:48
For the next segment, please print me the address.
► 01:11:52
Because I...
► 01:11:53
I don't see it on the screen, and I can't tell them the address.
► 01:11:59
So I'll do that next segment.
► 01:12:00
I'm going to go to rebroadcast for a minute, though.
► 01:12:02
Let me take a break here.
► 01:12:04
Stuff sometimes.
► 01:12:05
It's not the crew's fault.
► 01:12:07
I'm like the director of my own show, and so it's just very frustrating.
► 01:12:10
The crew does a great job, and then I need something, and I can't tell you the address if I don't have it.
► 01:12:15
Or maybe I was missing it on the screen, so I'm just going to get that.
► 01:12:19
It's too late now.
► 01:12:20
Just stop.
► 01:12:21
Okay, and then we're just going to do this for a minute.
► 01:12:24
I'm going to take a break.
► 01:12:25
The problem is I'm also shooting promos during the segments.
► 01:12:29
I may stop doing that during the segment breaks because I need to get refocused.
► 01:12:33
I need to get reset.
► 01:12:35
And I had a lot I was going to say and a lot I was going to do.
► 01:12:38
Sometimes I go a little astray on that and then we have a problem.
► 01:12:40
So I'm going to go to a very special report here.
► 01:12:45
Okay.
► 01:12:46
Alright, Alex.
► 01:12:47
Maybe you should get a director.
► 01:12:50
Maybe you shouldn't be directing your own show.
► 01:12:53
Maybe the big problem is you, buddy.
► 01:12:56
Yeah, it seems like it.
► 01:12:58
I would say that watching your face, you thought that the funny part was that he couldn't remember what day he went down to this hill.
► 01:13:05
No, I knew that was fun.
► 01:13:07
I knew we were starting off good.
► 01:13:09
But that really snowballed into something real great.
► 01:13:13
Yeah.
► 01:13:15
Dude, just fucking record it after your show.
► 01:13:19
It's so simple.
► 01:13:20
Everything is in there.
► 01:13:21
He can't be bothered to do any work that's not just doing his show.
► 01:13:25
He's too busy directing his show.
► 01:13:27
He's trying to record this promo that they can then use as a big thing to get people to come to the rally on his show so he can double down on the time and because someone didn't give him the fucking address or whatever, it all falls apart and he's gotta go off air.
► 01:13:43
He wastes Like, a half hour of his show because of this.
► 01:13:47
Because he's got to use the next segment now to record the, hey, come to my rally thing.
► 01:13:52
Haven't you heard that old saying?
► 01:13:53
You gotta miss two birds with one stone, Dan.
► 01:13:56
It's wild.
► 01:13:57
I mean, so much of this show has been this fuck up.
► 01:14:01
Him talking about how everyone's making him go viral and they're taking him out of context.
► 01:14:06
And then he comes back from a break.
► 01:14:11
And he's got a different song that he's really into.
► 01:14:14
He plays the whole song.
► 01:14:19
Are you a child?
► 01:14:24
I'm in love.
► 01:14:26
Come on!
► 01:14:29
Do Bonanza next.
► 01:14:31
Keep moving, moving, moving.
► 01:14:35
Though they're disapproving.
► 01:14:37
Keep them doggies moving.
► 01:14:40
They think you're cattle.
► 01:14:41
Oh, come on, you missed it!
► 01:14:43
Hurting you.
► 01:14:47
They want to brand you with their inoculation.
► 01:14:50
My heart's calculating.
► 01:14:53
My true love will be waiting.
► 01:14:55
Be waiting at the end of.
► 01:14:58
So, take some Americans to submit.
► 01:15:01
Hit them up.
► 01:15:02
Hit them up.
► 01:15:04
Raw high.
► 01:15:05
Cut them out.
► 01:15:06
Ride them in.
► 01:15:06
Ride them in.
► 01:15:07
Cut them out.
► 01:15:08
Cut them out.
► 01:15:08
Ride them in.
► 01:15:09
Raw high.
► 01:15:11
Yeah.
► 01:15:11
Yeah.
► 01:15:13
Ha ha ha.
► 01:15:14
Yeah.
► 01:15:16
Yeah.
► 01:15:18
Raw high.
► 01:15:20
Yeah.
► 01:15:26
Raw high.
► 01:15:28
And that That is the anthem of the Democrats and the globalists.
► 01:15:34
I didn't even get to any of the news.
► 01:15:35
I went off on a jag about the UN and world government and us being number one on Twitter and the deception around it and them putting up the fake story that I sent child porn to the Sandy Hook families.
► 01:15:44
I mean, these people are the scum of the earth.
► 01:15:46
Do your job!
► 01:15:49
I love that punchline.
► 01:15:51
I didn't get to any of the news.
► 01:15:52
I did just spend the last four minutes singing Rawhide, but I ran out of time to get to the news, damn!
► 01:15:58
I just did an amazing karaoke version of Rawhide.
► 01:16:01
I fucked up trying to promote a rally because no one gave me the address.
► 01:16:06
That was a whole bunch of time.
► 01:16:07
A real ton of time.
► 01:16:08
Really should have got to the news.
► 01:16:10
Really should have.
► 01:16:11
Oh, well.
► 01:16:14
Maybe there'll be next time when I do this all over again.
► 01:16:18
What, are we gonna run out of news?
► 01:16:19
What, do you guys need the news today?
► 01:16:20
Come on, there'll be some more tomorrow.
► 01:16:22
No more time for news, though, because we gotta get Ali Alexander in here.
► 01:16:26
And actually, I mean, this guy, he, like I said, he directed, I believe he was the director, he was at least the third wheel in that documentary with Loomer and Wall, which is, I can't stress this enough.
► 01:16:41
Great.
► 01:16:41
Amazing work.
► 01:16:42
You should never be able to recover from that kind of embarrassment.
► 01:16:45
No, it's awesome.
► 01:16:46
But actually, I think there's a danger to him.
► 01:16:50
We ought to be really nervous, and that's why I'm so passionate that Team Trump needs to collapse the ticket on the other side.
► 01:16:58
Tell the progressives and tell the left...
► 01:17:01
The truth about these authoritarian, mass incarceration, war on drug bigots, these corporatists on the left, and we need the right and the left to come together behind either President Kanye West or President Donald Trump.
► 01:17:16
Ali Alexander, I won infinity, trillion infinity.
► 01:17:21
I agree with you.
► 01:17:22
Ali Alexander is expressing here the only real viable strategy Trump has to win, outside of authoritarian moves he's already making, like attacking the Postal Service, which everybody should be very worried about.
► 01:17:34
No, no, no, it's great.
► 01:17:35
You can just turn off the mail.
► 01:17:36
That's good.
► 01:17:36
Not good.
► 01:17:37
In order for Trump to increase his share of votes, you know, he'll be wasting his time trying to convince anyone to vote for him.
► 01:17:44
Oh yeah, that'd be stupid.
► 01:17:45
He's got whatever votes he has, and the rest of the people aren't going to be persuaded.
► 01:17:48
Thus, the best use of effort is to focus on making sure the other side has as little support as possible.
► 01:17:54
And as Alexander very astutely points out, there's a real opportunity to erode the support for the Democratic ticket among the progressive and further left contingents in the country.
► 01:18:04
Right, because the Democrats are shit.
► 01:18:06
Well, it's a real...
► 01:18:07
issue that the Democratic ticket is going to have to face and deal with.
► 01:18:10
And it would be an issue with or without anyone in the fascist right wing trying to raise the issue.
► 01:18:15
The strategy that Alexander is laying out is to exacerbate those feelings of disenchantment or disappointment with the ticket in hopes of suppressing the vote enough to put Trump over the top.
► 01:18:25
The real tell in there is that he considers Kanye a serious candidate.
► 01:18:29
That's kind of a sign that Ali is a shithead.
► 01:18:32
The stuff that's been coming out about that whole farce of a campaign is starting to look a Real shady.
► 01:18:37
And even if the talk about him meeting with Kushner is overblown, you still kind of have to look at his idea of running as an attempt to fuck with the election.
► 01:18:45
Kanye wouldn't be able to get on enough state ballots to actually win, so the act of running would literally only have the effect of redirecting some votes and being a huge publicity stunt for Kanye himself.
► 01:18:56
Very smart.
► 01:18:56
Anyone pretending to be a serious political commentator who's even entertaining the idea of him running is showing their cards that they're a fucking idiot.
► 01:19:03
Yeah.
► 01:19:03
Which is a fair description of Ali Alexander, who again...
► 01:19:06
It was involved with Jacob Wall and Laura Loomer.
► 01:19:09
Yeah, they're either showing their cards that they're an idiot, or they're showing their cards that they need something.
► 01:19:15
It's either, I do want the ticket split, or I just want the entertainment of being able to cover Kanye West as much as possible.
► 01:19:26
That's the only reason.
► 01:19:27
And I think in terms of what he's saying about the progressives and the left, it's like, yeah, that is not...
► 01:19:37
That is a conversation that is valid on the left.
► 01:19:41
It's not an argument that's valid coming from the right, because their candidate is much worse.
► 01:19:47
Them trying to disenchant the left with the Democratic candidate is solely to suppress the Democratic vote, as opposed to...
► 01:19:58
Conversations about Harris' record or Biden's record on the left, I think you can have conversations about them not being the candidate that you want, but there are productive ways in which you can hopefully push them closer to being in line with the social priorities that you have and the policy priorities.
► 01:20:18
I think you can have that conversation, and it's a challenge that the left and the Democratic Party are going to have in this election season.
► 01:20:27
But it isn't a challenge that's insurmountable.
► 01:20:29
It's not something that I think...
► 01:20:31
No, I agree with you that it's not insurmountable.
► 01:20:34
But the challenge when presented from someone like Ali Alexander is insurmountable.
► 01:20:39
Right.
► 01:20:39
Because that is solely to be disruptive and destructive.
► 01:20:43
And I think that there is a really important difference between those two because sometimes they can look similar.
► 01:20:49
Right.
► 01:20:49
And I think as the election gets closer, people have to keep a pretty...
► 01:20:55
Good sense, or try and keep an eye on that.
► 01:20:59
It's going to be tough, more than anything else, to differentiate between people who are shit-stirring and people who are having a good-faith conversation, and that's due entirely to the Democratic Party being shit.
► 01:21:13
Not entirely.
► 01:21:15
Well, I mean, it's not entirely, but they earned those conversations, and they don't seem to be doing anything to do otherwise.
► 01:21:24
So, it's one of those circumstances where it is very easy to jump in as a shitster, because you can walk in.
► 01:21:34
Well, I mean, what is it?
► 01:21:36
What's that expression?
► 01:21:37
Like, perfect is the enemy of good?
► 01:21:39
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
► 01:21:40
And the expectation being framed from the right of, like, this isn't your perfect candidate, is the enemy of better than Trump.
► 01:21:51
Of course.
► 01:21:53
I hate even having conversations about this sort of stuff, because I don't want to ever be a voice that's saying, like, hey, if you have concerns about X, Y, or Z candidates, you should suck it up and shut up.
► 01:22:06
Because I don't believe that, and I don't agree with that.
► 01:22:08
Of course.
► 01:22:09
At the same time, I think that, realistically, there are only two possible winners of the next election, and one of them is nightmarish, and the other is...
► 01:22:21
Not as good as we want, but ideally and hopefully someone who would be receptive to messages and social protest.
► 01:22:33
So anyway, it's complicated.
► 01:22:36
I don't know.
► 01:22:37
Anyway, the point is, I think you're right about the...
► 01:22:42
It being very difficult to differentiate between pot stirrers and people who are making good faith arguments.
► 01:22:48
And I think one of the best things you can do is just say, okay, are you somebody who is a known pot stirring fuck?
► 01:22:56
And then just completely discount any kind of argument that's coming from that.
► 01:23:01
Like if Mike Cernovich has something to say about the Democratic ticket, go ahead and ignore that.
► 01:23:07
It's not coming from a place of concern.
► 01:23:10
About keeping people honest.
► 01:23:12
Right.
► 01:23:12
It's coming from a place of trying to sow problems.
► 01:23:15
And, you know, in that vein, Ali Alexander is somebody who maybe you don't know who that guy is.
► 01:23:22
Right.
► 01:23:22
Other than being involved in that documentary with Laura Loomer.
► 01:23:25
Exactly.
► 01:23:26
So it's up to Alex to give some credits.
► 01:23:28
Ali Alexander talks to the White House all the time.
► 01:23:30
He's a high-level political analyst, really smart guy.
► 01:23:33
There's one thing that's missing.
► 01:23:35
What's that?
► 01:23:35
And Alex's credits for Ali Alexander.
► 01:23:38
I'm not talking about the embarrassing documentary.
► 01:23:40
You see, it turns out that Ali Alexander didn't always go by that name.
► 01:23:44
He was formerly known as Ali Akbar.
► 01:23:47
According to an investigation conducted by Breitbart Uncovered, Ali was, quote, convicted in 2007 of charges of credit card fraud and theft between the amounts of $1,500 and $20,000.
► 01:23:59
That's how he got the gig at the White House.
► 01:24:00
Ali was sentenced to a suspended sentence, and from there he moved into his mother's home, where he began to blog.
► 01:24:07
Get off the phone!
► 01:24:09
He started an organization called Vice and Victory, and then a group called the National Bloggers Club.
► 01:24:18
Hey!
► 01:24:22
Hey!
► 01:24:25
Great.
► 01:24:26
According to an article in the Examiner from July 2012, the National Bloggers Club was, quote, listed as a tax-exempt 501c3 status until this writer and others contacted the IRS and learned that the organization did not have legal right to claim such status.
► 01:24:41
This, some might suspect, looks super shady.
► 01:24:45
This was not the only entity that Ali would be associated with that had some sketchy relationships with claiming tax-exempt status.
► 01:24:52
He was associated with the American Liberty Alliance, which is a Tea Party website, back in 2008.
► 01:24:57
Here's a little bit from an article about this in Crooks and Liars.
► 01:25:01
Starting off as ALA's technology consultant, Akbar would eventually become chairman of ALA's board, spending much of his time collecting non-deductible donations.
► 01:25:11
Yes, despite claiming to be in the application process for 501c4 status in August 2009, ALA eventually was embarrassed into posting the following caveat on their website, though not on their donation page.
► 01:25:26
The American Liberty Alliance is not a 501c3, 501c4, or a political action committee.
► 01:25:32
We are not registered as a non-profit, and we do not raise funds as such.
► 01:25:36
Yet, they incorporated under the name American Liberty Alliance a non-profit corporation.
► 01:25:41
Well, it's a good name, Dan.
► 01:25:43
It is catchy.
► 01:25:44
It's a good name.
► 01:25:45
From there, Ali rose through the ranks in some circles of Tea Party grifting.
► 01:25:50
Along with a lot of those folks, he decided to make the jump to Trump, and that was a profitable decision.
► 01:25:55
Politico reported on a $60,000 donation that the political action committee he advises got from Robert Mercer in the run-up to the 2016 election.
► 01:26:03
Also getting tons of money from the Mercers around this time was Milo Yiannopoulos, who probably would still be on that bankroll if BuzzFeed hadn't exposed a very serious pattern of Nazi behavior on Milo's part and that whole thing about his distasteful appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast.
► 01:26:17
Anyway, my point is that I don't see much substance to Ali Alexander outside of him being a convicted felon whose crime involved fraud, who seemingly made a bit of a career out of being a con artist in Republican political circles, which seems exceedingly easy.
► 01:26:32
What are you just gonna not?
► 01:26:33
Look, I feel like once you get, if you join the Republican Party at a certain level of fame, they just introduce you to the grift.
► 01:26:41
If you're there, what are you doing not grifting people?
► 01:26:46
And if you're good at manufacturing some kind of perception of buzz, people will fall for it.
► 01:26:52
Teach the grift.
► 01:26:52
I think that seems to be the picture I've been able to gather.
► 01:26:59
I don't know.
► 01:27:00
I mean, if you exist in a place where...
► 01:27:04
You can hang out with Laura Loomer, Jacob Wall, and Alex Jones, and you don't worry about shooting your credibility in the foot.
► 01:27:10
You clearly live in a place where credibility is not a relevant concern for you.
► 01:27:15
Dan, do you realize the bullet that other people have dodged?
► 01:27:18
I am a straight white male with a failed comedy career.
► 01:27:22
I should be on Fox News after dark or whatever with Greg Gutfeld.
► 01:27:27
I should be grifting right now.
► 01:27:29
You should be telling people that you're on the top of the food chain.
► 01:27:31
I should be grifting.
► 01:27:33
Why am I not?
► 01:27:33
I don't know.
► 01:27:35
That's a terrible idea.
► 01:27:36
So, Ali gets into some conspiracies here, and my note on this is this is incoherent nonsense, and I was trying to make sense of it in the context that he was providing, and I just, this is just lunacy.
► 01:27:52
I gotta tell you, you just can't help but reconcile political theory with the Bible and come to these conclusions that...
► 01:27:59
Oh my gosh.
► 01:28:00
You know, there really is a deep state.
► 01:28:02
Oh my gosh.
► 01:28:03
The Clintons and the Bushes have a relationship that dates back to Arkansas.
► 01:28:09
Oh my gosh.
► 01:28:10
When this money goes missing, what is it funding?
► 01:28:13
Oh my gosh.
► 01:28:14
When Biden looked like he was going to pick Whitmer or Klobuchar, the BLM riots started.
► 01:28:21
The Soros family boxed Biden into Kamala Harris.
► 01:28:24
I got to tell you, it's not lunacy to point out.
► 01:28:29
What looks inevitable unless we wake up the population and what I tell people now is do not be a reactionary.
► 01:28:37
Do not just say the opposite of the left.
► 01:28:40
Believe in something.
► 01:28:41
Believe in order.
► 01:28:42
Align yourself with God and then fight for that because what people need to understand, this is the most important thing I'll ever say, is that the Marxists aren't like the left.
► 01:28:52
It's a spiritual thing for them.
► 01:28:54
What?
► 01:28:55
I sincerely don't really even understand what the goal or point of that was.
► 01:29:03
I mean, what does that have to do with the Bible?
► 01:29:05
You're just spinning weird conspiracies about stuff.
► 01:29:08
I guess the only thing that I can pull from the Bible that he might be talking about is obviously Revelation.
► 01:29:17
Right?
► 01:29:18
It has to be end times.
► 01:29:19
It has to be end times.
► 01:29:21
Yeah, this sort of really politically charged Christianity is almost all Revelation-based.
► 01:29:28
But they just don't understand that the book of Revelation wasn't optional.
► 01:29:34
You know, at no point in time was God in the book of Revelation just being like...
► 01:29:39
But if you guys work really hard to avoid this, we're going to do it.
► 01:29:42
I'm sorry.
► 01:29:43
Look, hey, you guys are on the path to Revelation right now.
► 01:29:46
That's a good point.
► 01:29:46
But if you could just, listen, wake people up and we won't need to worry about that whole apocalypse thing.
► 01:29:54
Yeah, I guess that is an inherent weirdness.
► 01:29:57
But I don't understand the point that he's trying to make outside of the message that comes across, which is all these people are evil and has something to do with the Bible.
► 01:30:07
Right, so there's this zealotry, there's this religious zealotry that's underlying his politics, clearly, which I think is bad.
► 01:30:18
Yeah, if part of your religion involves saying, don't look into it, I'm not cool with it.
► 01:30:24
Well, here's something you should look into.
► 01:30:26
Okay.
► 01:30:30
Witches?
► 01:30:31
We must ask for God's intervention, and we must walk blindly in faith.
► 01:30:35
Well, you said it.
► 01:30:36
The globalists are out in the open.
► 01:30:39
They're calling on Satan, and the one thing they don't want to do is to call on Christ.
► 01:30:43
They are.
► 01:30:44
Think about this, Alex.
► 01:30:45
You've been in this for more than 25 years.
► 01:30:47
I've been in this for 13 years.
► 01:30:48
Have we ever seen this many witch covens?
► 01:30:52
Pray and curse and hex together?
► 01:30:55
No.
► 01:30:55
Have we ever seen this many random blood sacrifices?
► 01:31:00
General Flynn came out and said, it is Satan manifesting through communists.
► 01:31:05
We must call on Christ.
► 01:31:06
It's there.
► 01:31:07
You people are extremists.
► 01:31:09
Dan.
► 01:31:10
All these goddamn witches.
► 01:31:12
So many witches.
► 01:31:13
Have you ever seen this many witches?
► 01:31:15
So many.
► 01:31:16
This many witches hexing together.
► 01:31:18
And have you heard of so many secret blood rituals in forests?
► 01:31:23
So many goddamn blood rituals.
► 01:31:24
That might be close to the bloodline.
► 01:31:26
And it's definitely not lunacy to specifically suggest that witch covens, generally speaking, go to the forest under the full moon.
► 01:31:36
And drink blood.
► 01:31:37
That's not lunacy, Dan.
► 01:31:39
Uh-huh.
► 01:31:39
Also...
► 01:31:40
Oh, wait, that's the definition of lunacy.
► 01:31:41
Also, Ali says that he's been in this for 13 years, which would be, what, 2003?
► 01:31:47
2007.
► 01:31:47
Oh, wait, that's the year he got convicted of...
► 01:31:49
Oh, is that the year that he got convicted and he had to switch careers?
► 01:31:52
That's odd.
► 01:31:53
Convicted of credit card fraud.
► 01:31:55
Anyway, this is the last clip here, and, I mean, these people are just...
► 01:32:01
Like, if...
► 01:32:03
We weren't so desensitized to this.
► 01:32:06
If you looked at this just in a vacuum, you'd be like, this is sensational, outrageous political belief.
► 01:32:14
So this is like fourth episode stuff, I'd lose my shit.
► 01:32:17
Maybe, yeah.
► 01:32:18
The notion that you're talking about, you're weaving your political beliefs and your political designs with...
► 01:32:28
Our enemies are witches and doing blood rituals in the forest, and we must call on God to vanquish them.
► 01:32:35
Goddamn witches.
► 01:32:35
That is outrageous.
► 01:32:38
No!
► 01:32:38
So many witches!
► 01:32:40
I don't know.
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Dan, I think it's perfectly reasonable to take someone at their word when they say that there are so many goddamn witches around.
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So many witches.
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So many witch covens!
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Witches.
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Get ready.
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I mean, they've infiltrated even the good.
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Remember, they can't create a contrast with us.
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They must infiltrate us.
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Right.
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In order to deceive our believers.
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That's right.
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Come back soon.
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Don't wait a year.
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Come back and get into the election and all the stuff coming out and more on Kamala Harris.
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I know you're ready to expose her.
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We didn't get to today.
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Come back next week.
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Ellie Alexander, thank you so much.
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Very impressed.
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Very impressed.
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I was not.
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If you say something like, have you ever seen this many witch covens around?
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And then somebody's like, hey, listen, we got to have you back on to talk about the election.
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Listen.
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Those are some political opinions I want to hear.
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Listen, Ali, I used to know this guy named Larry.
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He was a mope, and he talked about witches a bunch, and I really enjoyed it, but he kind of got out of pocket, and I don't want to talk...
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Blackmailed Congress, man.
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Well, we got over that, but then he just got embarrassing.
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I don't want to have him back on, but I do like witches.
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Can you fill that hole?
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Are you my witch guy?
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Can you be my witch guy?
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Can you be my witch guy?
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1-800-WITCHGUYS.
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Call us.
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I wish.
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I wish I would have got that number.
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Oh, that would have been great.
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Anyway, this was a bit more humorous than I expected it to be.
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I mean, there's a lot of fun in there.
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And I'm glad there was that.
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I know that there's been a little bit of stagnation with Alex, but I want to try and comfort the audience and let them know that we've been doing a lot of present-day stuff, but we have some plans for some really exciting stuff that's coming down the pike.
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In terms of other more substantive, more meaningful content than just laughing at Alex's dumbass.
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So get excited with that.
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Hold on for...
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A moment, and that will be upon us.
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We're working on it.
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But, until the next time, we'll be back, but we have a website.
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We do have a website.
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It's knowledgefight.com.
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Yep, we'll be on Twitter.
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We are on Twitter.
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It's at knowledgefight.net.
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Go to bed, Jordan.
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Yep, we're on Facebook.
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We are on Facebook.
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And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now.
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We're back, but until then, I'm Neo.
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I'm Leo.
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I'm DZXClark.
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I'm Daryl Rundis.
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I'm Rawhide.
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What?
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That doesn't even make sense.
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It's not a person.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.