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July 27, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#461: July 25, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss Alex Jones' "emergency" Saturday broadcast that he recorded after returning from being out of studio for a week. In this installment, Alex impotently rambles about whether Trump is a friend or foe, and announces that he's launching a foundation to populate space.

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alex jones
08:30
d
dan friesen
39:01
j
jordan holmes
15:10
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donald j trump
00:02
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alex jones
I'm sweating.
Knowledgefight.com.
It's time to pray.
donald j trump
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
Knowledge Fight.
KnowledgeFight.com.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
alex jones
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Jordan!
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
Talk to me.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot this week?
dan friesen
Well, interestingly, so I decided to start playing the Origami King.
jordan holmes
The Origami King.
dan friesen
The new Paper Mario game.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
All right.
dan friesen
I am famously, on the streets, I'm known as a fan of Paper Mario.
jordan holmes
You are.
I've heard it.
dan friesen
I love The Thousand Year Door.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I thought that was a great game.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I enjoyed even Super Paper Mario.
I believe that was the next one.
Color Splash was a disaster.
That game sucked.
It was so bad.
It made me mad.
It was so bad.
I was so infuriated by it.
jordan holmes
That's unfortunate.
dan friesen
And I didn't even know there was a new Paper Mario coming out.
And I was like, I gotta give it a shot.
I gotta give it a try.
So I started playing it.
I don't want to spoil anything because it's a fairly new game and some people might want to play it.
jordan holmes
Mario's dead.
dan friesen
It's not that.
unidentified
But it got pretty fucking dark in the middle.
There is a part where I'm just like, I just wanted to play a cartoony game.
I don't know about this.
dan friesen
This is bumming me out.
And so I had to stop playing it.
I put it down.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And so I picked back up Hyrule Warriors.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
The Zelda game.
jordan holmes
Uncomplicated.
dan friesen
The Zelda game that is basically just Dynasty Warriors, but Zelda characters.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So good.
I forgot how much I love that game.
That game is great.
I love just running around and going through armies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So my bright spot is rediscovering Hyrule Warriors.
jordan holmes
It is fun.
In the larger sense, I think Hyrule Warriors is far darker because you're just mass murdering people left and right.
dan friesen
Well, they're not people a lot.
Exactly.
I guess they're sentient beings, so that's not good.
jordan holmes
It's like Star Wars getting around killing people by killing droids, but then you find out droids actually have a certain kind of soul to them.
It's weird.
dan friesen
To me, it's not so much about the mass amount of darkness as it is the context of it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The context of the darkness in the Mario game, Paper Mario, without spoilers, inappropriate.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
dan friesen
It was inappropriate.
I'll tell you all fair what happened.
unidentified
It doesn't feel organic.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Just upsetting.
jordan holmes
This is a Cersei Lannister situation?
What's going on here?
dan friesen
It's upsetting, whatever it is.
Whereas in Hyrule Warriors, it's a battle.
It makes sense that you're fighting, and it's not killing, it's KOs.
You're just knocking people out.
So it's totally fine.
It's not that dark at all.
And sometimes they're dinosaurs.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
That's fair.
Or a weird ghost.
Sometimes, even.
unidentified
Why not?
dan friesen
Yeah, it doesn't feel as dark.
Anyway, what about you?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, obviously my bright spot is that the Cubs won their opener of the Major League Baseball season.
dan friesen
Go Cubs go!
jordan holmes
Looking alright.
unidentified
Kyle Hendricks threw nine.
jordan holmes
Complete game shutout.
Great start.
Rizzo and Schwarber both look like they're on.
It's good.
Bryant should not be in the leadoff spot, but we'll go from there.
dan friesen
What's wrong with Bryant?
jordan holmes
It's not Bryant.
It's the leadoff spot.
dan friesen
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
The Cubs leadoff spot has been cursed ever since Dexter Fowler left after the 2016 World Series, and that is because the Ricketts should have re-signed him, but they fucking didn't.
You keep together the World Series winning team, Dan!
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
But anyways, I will stick away with that.
dan friesen
So that's cursed the leadoff spot.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they've had like many lead-off hitters in the past four years.
dan friesen
A lot of weird superstitions in Cubs fans.
You know who rarely has superstitions?
People who win a lot.
People who are too busy winning.
jordan holmes
That's probably true.
That's probably true.
dan friesen
I don't know if that's actually true, but I'm very happy for you with the Cubs.
jordan holmes
We'll see.
It's going to be a good, weird, terrible year.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That sums it up.
So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about a special report that Alex released on Saturday.
That is July 25th, 2020.
I'm Dan, this is 2020.
Goddammit.
I mean, Alex has been out of studio all week.
jordan holmes
Does he give a complete breakdown of why he's been out of studio?
dan friesen
He does explain his absence.
unidentified
There's somebody watching a French movie in the background?
dan friesen
Yes, actually.
No, there's a baby running around.
You can hear some weird noises in some of this.
Last week we did get the news that he had lost his appeal in the Connecticut Supreme Court.
He was going to have to pay these sanctions and turn over documents to the folks in the Sandy Hook lawsuit who are suing him.
And, you know, obviously the presumption is, well, maybe he had to go to Connecticut.
You know, the Connecticut Supreme Court's not coming to Austin.
So maybe he has to go up here.
And we'll get down to business on all that here in a moment.
But before we do, Jordan, we're going to take a moment to say thank you.
Some folks have signed up and are supporting the show.
unidentified
That'd be great.
dan friesen
So first, John, J-O-N, and then two last initials, P-R.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, John Public Relations.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
Next, Christian C. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Christian!
dan friesen
Thank you!
Next, Ollie, O-L-I, last initial C, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Ollie!
unidentified
Thank you!
dan friesen
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alex jones
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jordan holmes
Thanks, Green Death Ray!
unidentified
Thank you!
dan friesen
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alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Hellboy the Bellboy.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
Next, Jacob T. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Jacob.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Adam J. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Adam.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level.
We appreciate that very much.
So, Jeroen, that's J-E-R-O-E-N, Van B. Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
Senta, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Jessica W., thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Jeroen!
Thank you so much, Santa!
And thank you so much, Jessica!
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to all of you!
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show, I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, or you can take that generosity and...
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
Putting it in a box?
How do you feel about putting it in a box?
dan friesen
Sure, put it in a box.
What else are you going to do with it?
jordan holmes
Alright, put it in a box, kind of tape it up.
dan friesen
A box inside a box?
jordan holmes
A box inside of a box.
Put that box inside of a piano case.
dan friesen
Make a Russian slash Chinese nesting doll.
jordan holmes
Exactly, yeah!
dan friesen
And then send it to a charity in your area that helps people in need.
jordan holmes
They would appreciate it.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, like I said, Jordan, we got this here.
Oh, shit.
I forgot.
I forgot.
I got to go dig in the mailbag.
jordan holmes
Oh, there's the mailbag.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
Open it up.
dan friesen
Two zippers today.
Bag inside a bag.
Bag inside a bag, yes.
Take that, Christopher Nolan.
Aaron sent some Polar Seltzers.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
The very exciting package that came.
Polar is this.
Oh, I forgot.
This is going to get deeply into the year of the...
So Aaron sent these Polar Seltzers.
And Polar does summer varietals.
And so there's like a raspberry rosé.
It's like a rosé-flavored.
Strawberry margarita.
I can't remember.
Blackberry mango punch.
jordan holmes
That's complex.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so I've tried a couple of them, and I've got to say this.
I am starting to come around to this position, and that is, I think Polar might be, I don't know, I think you're more the sports guy, so you could probably get a better way to encapsulate this.
jordan holmes
Good or bad?
Good.
dan friesen
Most reliable.
jordan holmes
Most reliable.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think Polar is the on-base percentage kings of these seltzers.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I don't think I've had any Polars that have been bad.
I think they're pretty consistent and pretty good.
And then also, they have a lot of different flavors.
They fuck around quite a bit.
There's like a blueberry lemonade seltzer.
There's these booze.
Ones, the Raspberry Rosé and stuff?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, they're creative, and I think that they're pretty consistent.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's great!
dan friesen
Now, when we started this year of the seltzer, back in April, I got a lot of really angry messages from people from the Northeast who are really into polar, and I wasn't drinking enough polar, and they were like, hey!
Why don't you drink some Polar?
jordan holmes
Hey, asshole!
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Why aren't you drinking some Polar?
dan friesen
A lot of Bostonians are super mad at me.
jordan holmes
Tom Brady and such.
dan friesen
Come to Cambridge, we'll kick your ass.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't even know what accent we're doing.
dan friesen
No, I don't know either.
I lived in Boston, and I was too young.
Anyway, I'd like to apologize to those people for not recognizing the Polar as a fantastic seltzer company.
And second, I'd like to withdraw that apology because it was still rude.
Those messages.
But also, thank you, Aaron, for sending these.
Because these summer ones are really difficult to find here in Chicago.
So I appreciate that.
Also, I got another package, Zip.
And it's some reishi botanical seltzers that I've not had a chance to try yet.
But they look like they all could be in the running.
For like 90s.
unidentified
Top.
jordan holmes
Top levels.
dan friesen
They look amazing.
unidentified
Alright.
dan friesen
They look so good.
And I know that Rishi is a really good tea company.
And so I don't think that they're going to be putting out shit.
I'm scared to try these.
They look so good.
jordan holmes
Alright.
So, Polar's like the Tampa Bay Rays.
They're going to put together a competitive team really good.
But you're looking at...
We're looking at the fucking Yankees now.
We're looking at heavy hitters every lineup.
dan friesen
It's possible.
I don't know.
I could be disappointed.
jordan holmes
Can't stop.
The Dodgers, we're talking.
dan friesen
Yes.
The problem that I have, though, is that these came without a card or anything.
So, I don't know who sent them.
So, if you're listening and you sent the...
jordan holmes
Who sent you?
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
And then second, please shoot me a message so I can give you a proper thank you.
Anyway, this has been a little bit of seltzer update.
unidentified
Wonderful.
dan friesen
So, last week on the show, Alex would call in a little bit and give a little bit of a reprieve from David Knight and Owen Schroyer.
And two of these reports ended up being put out on band.video.
So I'm not going to dig through the episodes where Owen and David Knight are hosting to try and find Alex's contributions.
jordan holmes
Silly.
dan friesen
But the things that end up getting posted here on Band.Video are much easier to just take and go over.
And so from the 24th, which was Friday, we have a couple of little snippets here of Alex.
See where his head's at on Friday while he's out of studio doing whatever he's doing.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And the first thing we're going to talk about here is Alex is having a tough time because Trump, his king, his hero, guy who's fighting the globalists, has come out and worn a mask.
And he said, I'm all for people wearing masks.
jordan holmes
That is a bit of a pickle for him.
dan friesen
It's tough because Alex has been saying that the masks are the sign of submission to the globalists and all this.
jordan holmes
Which would suggest that Trump has submitted to the globalists.
dan friesen
It's a difficult position that Alex finds himself in.
And so this first report that was put out is him sort of trying to rationalize that a little bit.
alex jones
Is President Trump playing 3D chess?
Or is he being blackmailed somehow by the deep state?
Make no mistake, Bill Gates and the capitalist are the world government, UN deep state.
They are the individuals setting up a corporate planetary government to carry out eugenics.
That is on record.
What has happened to President Trump?
Has he been captured?
Has he been compromised?
dan friesen
So you can hear people in the background there.
This is weird.
It's weird audio.
jordan holmes
Is he at Disney World?
dan friesen
It sounds like he's somewhere where there's people milling about.
Maybe an airport or something.
He's been known to record these things at airports.
There was that time that he famously chased Bernie Sanders at an airport.
jordan holmes
Sure, he got him.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's strange.
I guess we're now entering the period where Trump is blackmailed by the globalists.
And here's what I would say to that.
jordan holmes
Period number five where Trump is being blackmailed by the globalists, I believe.
dan friesen
If globalist blackmail were effective now, how has it not been in the past?
Like, what did the globalists just discover about Trump?
Like, this is effective blackmail.
jordan holmes
That's a good question.
What possibly...
dan friesen
How is this narrative supposed to stick?
That's nonsense.
jordan holmes
What could there be that would be just...
Just now found out about.
This man who's been obsessively in the public eye, scrambling his entire life to be in the public eye.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Forever.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
We've just now found out at the age of, what is he, 79?
unidentified
70-something.
jordan holmes
Something or other?
dan friesen
70-something.
unidentified
That he is Hitler?
jordan holmes
What is it?
What it could be?
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's nonsense to me.
The idea of trying to pull off this kind of narrative seems like, you are so desperate.
Even Trump can't deny any longer that this is a pretty serious situation and people should be taking precautions surrounding public health.
And Alex can't deal with that because it ruins everything for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that really fucks things up.
dan friesen
So now, either Trump is in bed with the globalists or he's being blackmailed somehow.
It's not going to work.
This is dumb.
But Alex is pissed off.
And this, to me, is a strange clip.
alex jones
Just a week ago, he was doing the right thing, exposing them and getting into the fraud and getting into the false testing and the rest of it.
But now he has reversed that.
And it's a scary situation.
I don't think Trump's a bad guy.
I still support him.
But I know our listeners are very, very upset.
Our readers are very, very upset.
I'm very, very concerned.
And so we really have to understand the fact that Trump can't do it all.
We're going to have to do it.
dan friesen
So there's a sense of like, hey, Trump was doing good a week ago, but now he's doing the exact wrong thing.
I still support him.
It's still good, but we're worried.
jordan holmes
Hey, we're all in a great place where we cannot question our leaders one way or the other.
dan friesen
And by great place, I mean I'm sitting at a tiki bar waiting for another frozen margarita.
Yeah, that's a good place to be, I suppose.
Uh, yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, that's interesting.
We talked about, you know, what was it gonna take?
How bad does it have to get for Alex to finally be like, hey, alright, alright.
Well, I mean, it only makes sense that it would have happened to Trump sooner.
Like, that it would have gotten bad enough for Trump far before it ever got bad enough for Alex.
dan friesen
Wow, that's because there's real stakes.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So maybe that's what it is that gets bad enough for Alex is it's like, well, now that Trump is even like, hey guys, this is fucked up.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Alex can either double down or Or be like, ooh!
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I guess, you know, it's hard to predict any of that stuff.
But what I would say is that in terms of that question, like, what will Alex put up with?
It turns out he'll put up with being uncertain whether Trump is in bed with the globalists or being blackmailed by them.
Apparently, that's fine.
jordan holmes
All of his insider information has gone real quick, hasn't it?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's hard to get service at that tiki bar that he's at.
It's in a pool.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
It's a swim-up bar.
jordan holmes
And he's surrounded by globalists, so he can't talk loud.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
No, that makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So that's one of the reports.
And then there's another report that I found really interesting.
Alex makes a little bit of an announcement.
alex jones
But let me just say this.
My daughter, standing out in the woods just the other day, looked at me and she said, Daddy, I don't want to go home and take my nap at 2 o 'clock.
So it was like 1.30.
She said...
I want to stay awake because God's world that God built is so beautiful.
And those exact words.
And she had a little tear in her eye.
And she was feeling God's power in the universe.
Humans are incredible.
jordan holmes
Yes, we're fallen and decadent.
alex jones
Because we haven't been given the proper missions by other failed humans, but God's got a mission for us.
And it is to people the stars.
So I am going to set up the Human Defense Force.
I thought about just decades ago, setting up a foundation.
The image would be a man with a club smashing a robot, but that's too primitive an image.
We need something that powers humanity and symbolizes us going interplanetary.
dan friesen
Oh my god.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Thank you for finally doing what somebody should have done a long time ago.
dan friesen
Alright, look.
Everything is falling apart all around me.
My business is floundering.
I'm being sued all over the place.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So here, I think it's time for me to start a foundation to put people on Mercury.
jordan holmes
I am pretty sure that is the right move.
Yes.
Look, people think you've got to zig.
That's when you zag, Dan.
That's what you do.
dan friesen
The near infinite resources of the United States government and businesses like Tesla have made the progress that they have, but what they've been missing is Alex Jones setting up a foundation in order to populate the stars.
unidentified
Finally, a 501c3 that we can all get by.
dan friesen
And we're gonna just set the world on fire with this iconography of a human hitting a robot with a stick.
jordan holmes
That's too offensive for these days, Dan.
dan friesen
No, it's too simplistic.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's too simplistic.
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't know.
My gut tells me, first of all, this is never gonna happen.
jordan holmes
Doubtful.
dan friesen
This is going to be like Alex's show that's hosted by callers.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's gonna be in.
dan friesen
It's coming up.
It's right around the corner.
jordan holmes
Old Man Housephone is right there.
dan friesen
I don't think this is gonna happen.
But, on the off chance that it does happen, this also falls in line with my feelings about him hiding assets.
Starting a foundation to people the stars seems like the kind of thing where it's like, okay, this is a foundation.
Alex Jones, you don't have it in you to make any progress towards the stated goal.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Seems like a place you could hide, buddy.
jordan holmes
That's a novel.
That's a novel swing for a divorce court or hiding assets from a lawsuit.
dan friesen
I'd love to give my ex-wife a house, but I can't.
I'm too busy trying to get people on Venus.
jordan holmes
I gotta get people to Venus!
What are you guys doing getting in my way?
dan friesen
Oh, God.
Yeah, you gotta keep pitfalls on the air if you want to live in space.
jordan holmes
Here's my alimony.
Your kid's gonna be in space.
How about that shit?
unidentified
Great.
jordan holmes
Alimony.
dan friesen
Great.
So dumb.
So dumb.
jordan holmes
I am starting a human defense foundation, Dan.
dan friesen
You can't even hire a competent second in command.
unidentified
You can't find a second person who's good on air.
dan friesen
You think you're going to go to the moon?
jordan holmes
You can't even get somebody to put the right article on screen.
dan friesen
You fucking storm out of your studio twice a week because of tech glitches.
You're going to kill people if you try to go to space.
jordan holmes
They're halfway up in the air.
You know what?
Cancel the mission!
Cancel the whole mission!
I don't give a shit!
Turn the engines off!
Turn the engines off!
dan friesen
Oh my god, I just got word on Twitter that there's a globalist on my spaceship.
Abort!
alex jones
Abort!
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
Goddamn globalist on a spaceship.
dan friesen
So funny though.
Like, it's so high stakes, the lie.
I mean, there are no stakes, but what he's pretending to do is...
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Comical.
Anybody who thinks that he's coked, Alex could...
Oh, God.
Awesome.
jordan holmes
Love it.
dan friesen
Love it.
jordan holmes
I think he should go the other direction.
dan friesen
What's that?
Dig into the earth?
jordan holmes
That's exactly what I'm saying.
He's going too far into space.
That's unrealistic.
Nobody thinks he's going to make it.
We've already got those assholes on it.
dan friesen
I'm going to go find the Morlocks.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
Go down, man!
Nobody else is digging these days.
We used to have movies about digging all the time.
dan friesen
I would say that it's a little too on brand for him to create a bunker.
And also, that got, like, really hot in 2012, you know, with the coming of Planet X stuff.
jordan holmes
Naturally, yeah.
dan friesen
And I think people got exhausted with digging.
I think the Doomsday Bunker stuff kind of, like, it came and went.
It's not as chic anymore.
I don't think Alex feels like it's as exciting.
jordan holmes
All right, better pitch for you.
dan friesen
Plus, most of the stuff you're going to find down there is bugs.
jordan holmes
Not if you dig underneath the Getty.
dan friesen
Oh, interesting.
jordan holmes
So what he does...
dan friesen
He cleans up with Stephen Kelly.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
They get a diagonal...
It's like in There Will Be Blood.
He drinks the Nazis' milkshake, Dan.
That's what he's got to do.
He can't just dig straight down.
They've already beat him.
dan friesen
Jordan, if you can afford...
A fucking spaceship.
Sure.
You can afford to build one of those bulldozers that they have in cartoons that has like a big drill on the front of it.
I think maybe I'm thinking of something from Ninja Turtles.
jordan holmes
It could be Mega Man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It'll fit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, I look forward to seeing what Alex is going to do with this.
I would like to.
It sounds like things are about to really heat up, and by that I mean...
jordan holmes
I might join the Human Defense Foundation.
dan friesen
I don't know how you could.
Let's just give Alex money, I'm sure.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's unfortunate.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm not going to join that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, fair.
dan friesen
So, this report here, where he's announcing, he does not explain more about the Human Defense League, but I'm going to keep a very close eye on this.
This is maybe the top story for the rest of my life.
jordan holmes
Their base was a skull that emerges from a swamp, so I don't know if I want them defending me, if you understand what I'm saying.
dan friesen
I would prefer Alex not defend me.
This next clip is from the same report, and it's him trying to tell the globalists that they need to come to Jesus.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I just want to play this as a really stark reminder that I make this reminder from time to time, and I think I should probably make it more.
Alex deserves to be treated like a religious zealot.
He gets way too much of a pass as sort of like a political commentator.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
In his actual capacity and what he is actually doing at this point, this is cult shit, man.
He is definitely running a religious thing.
alex jones
And the entire book of Revelations, the entire book of Daniel, the entire book of Ezekiel, the entire book of Genesis is all interconnected and it's all being manifest right now.
And the servants of Satan are so fallen.
They believe that they can become silicon gods that somehow they can fix themselves when it's Christ's spirit that can fix them and transcend them.
Only by becoming wedded with Christ can we pass over the bridge and be complete.
Not by serving Satan in the New World Order.
The fruits of the New World Order are pure death and destruction.
And everyone knows it.
It stinks to high heaven.
Every part of it is a lie and a betrayal.
So turn back, humanity.
Turn back from the new world order.
And I want to encourage those who've been serving evil for whatever reason to turn back while there's still time.
If you can feel the Holy Spirit, if you can feel a calling, if you can even hear my voice and feel like you want to reach out and want to get out of what you're in, you don't have to reach out to Alex Jones.
You've got to reach out to God and say, God, show me how powerful you are.
Show me how you're the rule of the universe.
I'm weak.
I need you to help me.
I repent of what I've done.
I want to change.
And show me.
And the minute, the second you make that decision, it'll all turn.
But it's got to be legitimate.
It's got to be real.
And you'll know when it's real.
unidentified
Come to Jesus.
alex jones
It's the only way.
dan friesen
This is supposed to be a political show.
This is supposed to be a show about, like, banking conspiracies and the Federal Reserve and posse comitatus and UN troops and Obama.
jordan holmes
It still is.
It's just it's all the devil, Dan.
dan friesen
That's not cool.
jordan holmes
I don't get to do that.
dan friesen
Can you imagine if there was some sort of a left-wing show or maybe NPR, let's say, and they're talking about the rise of the Tea Party and talking about, oh, there's this grassroots movement and then you track it and you find, oh, a lot of this comes from FreedomWorks and a lot of these...
These Coke-related foundations seem to be amplifying a lot of this, and then flash forward a year, and they're like, well, turns out the devil is now.
unidentified
This is ludicrous.
jordan holmes
I just want to welcome you back to Fresh Air.
Just a reminder.
dan friesen
Terry Gross screaming about the devil.
jordan holmes
All of us, please, once again, bend your knee to our Lord and Savior.
Hail Satan, everyone.
And I just want you to know that we will be sacrificing a goat head.
And everybody who doesn't is going to burn.
Burn.
dan friesen
Here we are on fresh air making Satanism really boring and chill.
jordan holmes
I know!
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, look.
This should be embarrassing.
This is embarrassing.
And I don't mean this to be at all in any way insulting of people who are religious or have a faith.
Like, that's...
You know, that's a wonderful thing, or it can be, and I respect people's right to believe whatever they want.
And if you want to do a religious show, if you want to do a show that's about, like...
Hey, here's me talking about faith and the intersections of ways that it affects my life, interviewing people about their path.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I think that's wonderful.
I think that's great.
And so I don't want to waste any of my time sitting here making fun of somebody for doing a religious show.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I want to make fun of Alex for this.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I like that he's on the road.
The cult comparison makes sense.
This is so much like when...
You know, when a Christian occult goes bad, you know, one of those things where all of a sudden you see a documentary 20 years later and it's like, the leader while he was on the run sent in VHS tapes that everybody shared and watched together.
And you're like, that's exactly what Alex sounds like right now.
He's on the run.
Nobody knows where he is, but he's sending you a missive just to make sure you know he's still alive.
dan friesen
And I want to speak directly to the globalists.
Repent!
jordan holmes
Never find me, bitches!
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
It's...
dan friesen
It's a mess.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we get to the Saturday.
Alex is back.
I believe he returned on Friday evening.
And so Saturday he comes into the studio and he does a special report.
And so I...
I'm going to go ahead.
This is a little bit out of order, but I'm going to play a clip from the sort of middle of the report first, and then we'll start at the beginning.
Because I think it's important to recognize that there's clearly a point that Alex wanted to make.
And he states, and it's very rare when you listen to him, that there seems to be a thesis statement.
And in this clip, from about, I don't know, ten minutes in this special report, Alex lays out his thesis.
alex jones
So the big question is, is President Trump a friend?
Or is President Trump a foe?
Is President Trump fighting this?
Or is President Trump going along with it?
Well, on this emergency Saturday night transmission, we're going to lay it out right now!
Yeah!
So is Trump good or is Trump bad?
dan friesen
So that seems to be what he wants to come into studio and really get into.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So?
We'll see what he says about that.
jordan holmes
I think I can guess.
dan friesen
A lot of the other stuff is extraneous bullshit that is just the same shit over and over.
Fauci created this virus.
I've got to call it China virus.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, just the same stuff over and over again.
And so a lot of it, like, you would expect he's coming back in from a week off.
Maybe a head of steam.
Maybe a lot of, like...
jordan holmes
Finally got his daughter out of the forest.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
He should be feeling good.
dan friesen
It's not.
It's a lot of just repetition of very similar things.
But with the addition of this new thesis question, which is, is Trump a friend or foe?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which I could have answered for him in 2015.
And he answered for himself in 2015.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And then got convinced out of.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he was out of studio for a week, and like I said, I thought he was probably dealing with legal issues.
Turns out, nope.
alex jones
Everywhere I go, I am mobbed by people.
I was just in Florida for a week, in Destin, the Panhandle.
Great people.
And I went into the bayous to swim at Springs.
I went up and down the Panhandle.
And black people, white people, Hispanic people, Asian people, Americans, came up to me.
But not just Americans, folks from Brazil, and said, we love what you're doing, and we're awake, and we want to take action, and we hate the new world order.
So that's some really positive good news for everybody in this special Saturday.
Emergency transmission we're doing.
dan friesen
It's good news that people like Alex.
jordan holmes
Alright, is he starting with bright spots now?
dan friesen
I guess he is.
jordan holmes
God damn it, this son of a bitch.
unidentified
What a jerk.
jordan holmes
Stealing our stuff.
dan friesen
What a jerk.
jordan holmes
Left and right.
dan friesen
I would say, first of all...
In terms of public health stuff, probably the riskiest trip you could make right now is Texas to Florida.
jordan holmes
Yes, that would be the most terrifying thing.
dan friesen
That's not a wise decision right now, but I guess Alex doesn't believe any of this is real anyway, so what are you going to do?
jordan holmes
I did a four-state trip from California to Florida to New York and right back to Texas.
That's where I went.
dan friesen
So, when I hear this...
And I recognize that a month ago, Alex went on another beach vacation to the Gulf of Mexico.
I see this as more evidence that the end is coming for him.
Because what do you do whenever you recognize that, like, hey, pretty soon I probably won't be able to afford the lavish lifestyle that I live now.
jordan holmes
Brewster's Millions!
dan friesen
Let's get in as much of this, like, let's take some trips while we can.
Like, there's going to be hell coming soon.
There's a really hectic period or whatever.
Because two vacations within a month is a little much.
For Alex Jones in the middle of a fucking pandemic where he claims that he's got the globalists by the balls and proved all their evil.
You're about a hundred days away from a fucking presidential election.
It just seems like this is not the time to be taking multiple vacations unless there's another reason, and that is you won't be able to go on vacation in the future.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you know, look, it's so important.
You want to stay rested.
There's this whole American myth about you always got to work 14-hour days, Dan.
Sometimes you need to be rested to really come at the material with a clear mind.
He's going to finally explain what's going on.
That's what he's going to do in this report.
dan friesen
I've got to take 17 hours off a day in order to be good for half an hour.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, you're not far off.
dan friesen
Look, dude, I 100% agree with you.
I mean, outside of the concrete application of it.
I do think that people do need to recharge their batteries and take time off, and I respect that.
And that's why I wouldn't be all that weird about Alex taking a vacation.
Like, maybe twice a year or something, you know?
But once a month is...
Twice a month is a little bit much.
jordan holmes
No, as we all know, Alex Jones supports one week of paid vacation per month for every one of his employees.
It's just a perk.
dan friesen
It's a bit much.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
I think he just wanted to be like, oh, Tucker's going on vacation.
I gotta go on vacation, too.
Maybe that's what it was.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Maybe he's that obsessed with following in Tucker's...
Maybe he thought Tucker was going to Florida, so he wouldn't tell you, like, I'll meet you in the swamp.
jordan holmes
Is Stone still down in Florida?
Did he go see Stone?
dan friesen
That's a possibility.
Yeah, it could be.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That would make sense.
He would at least see Stone once, right?
Or, like, knock on Stone's house.
Tell him I'm not here.
Tell him I'm not here.
I gotta say the N-word in front of other people.
dan friesen
Roger, meet me in the swamp.
Meet me in the bayou.
Yeah, I mean, I would assume that if he was in Florida, then he probably met up with Roger.
But, like, still, it's too much vacation.
It doesn't make sense.
If the New World Order is taking over as we speak, and the devil is upon us, why are you...
The actions don't match up with...
The presentation that he's making.
So we'll see what happens, but it doesn't look great.
So Alex starts off, this is still before he gets to his thesis.
He's just sort of complaining about stuff, and he seems mad that Dr. Fauci threw out a first pitch.
alex jones
Oh, Fauci threw out the first pitch when he called for canceling Major League Baseball this year.
He threw out the first pitch a few days ago and was way off the mound, just like everything he's done.
unidentified
Got him.
alex jones
But it didn't matter.
jordan holmes
Got him.
alex jones
They still cheered him.
You don't see Trump being invited out to throw the first pitch.
jordan holmes
Yes, you do.
alex jones
You don't see Melania Trump on the cover of any magazines.
jordan holmes
Yes, you do.
alex jones
You see Fauci on the cover of fashion magazines.
Because he is a little, stunted, demonic dwarf that works for the globalists, shutting down our economy and destroying this nation.
dan friesen
So, to translate that, kind of wah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm going to go with wah.
dan friesen
Fauci threw out a pitch.
I didn't like it.
Why don't I have Trump?
alex jones
Throw a pitch.
unidentified
He will.
jordan holmes
It's on the schedule, actually.
dan friesen
Is that right?
I know that I saw some articles about that, but like...
Wasn't this the same thing that happened last year?
He said he was going to throw out a pitch and then he didn't or something?
How did this work out?
jordan holmes
This is going to be a big old show.
It's going to be in New York, I think.
It's the Yankees' home opener or whatever it is.
dan friesen
This falls squarely under the headline of I don't care.
It seems to me such a trivial thing whether or not Trump throws a first pitch or Fauci's pitch was good enough.
I don't care.
jordan holmes
It wasn't a great pitch.
dan friesen
No, I don't.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Oh, I do.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
No, of course I don't care.
dan friesen
I just don't care.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Alex is pretty mad about it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he gets to his thesis now at this point, and he plays a clip of Trump being interviewed, and Trump talks about how, like, hey, you know, your masks are fine, and, you know, there's a situation where we might have a while that we're still dealing with this.
And Alex decides to fact-check this, and this isn't a fact-check.
alex jones
So there you go.
Trump is fact-checked.
You're wrong.
It never ends, Trump.
Doesn't last two years.
Stop covering up, Trump!
You orange orangutan!
Stop working for the New World Order, you white devil!
I'm starting to think you are a white devil, actually.
Working with the black devil.
They have a WHO to carry this out.
But listen, I'm getting serious here.
Trump's pulled us out of the WHO knowing they're wrong.
Trump stood up to Communist China.
Trump has done pro-life marches.
I know the Republican never did it at that level.
Trump's the real deal.
dan friesen
Okay, so within like 30 seconds, he's yelling about how Trump's an orange orangutan who's working for the New World Order, and also, hey look, Trump's the real deal.
jordan holmes
I think he was being facetious, right?
And then he was trying to convince himself not to be facetious?
He's like, are you white devil?
And then he's like, maybe you are a white devil working with, I don't know.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I mean, look, I think that what's going on is that Alex feels ignored.
And the narratives that he wants Trump to push, which he felt like Trump was optically going along with up till this point, are now no longer the case.
Trump is supporting things that are the bare minimum.
Oh, boy.
Of taking a public health situation seriously.
And that doesn't work for Alex.
That contradicts what he wants.
And so now it's just the carrot versus the stick.
I think that Alex is just doing this as a performance because he thinks somehow Trump will respond to tough talk.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that's all that's going on.
And also, like...
It's not a fact check whenever you're like, I can tell you what's going to happen in the future.
jordan holmes
No, it's fact checking.
dan friesen
No, fact checking is checking facts.
You're just saying, hey, my prediction is different.
That's not fact checking.
jordan holmes
I'm checking facts.
dan friesen
No, it's not fact checking.
jordan holmes
No, it's fact checking.
dan friesen
It's not.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's separate.
jordan holmes
Predictions.
dan friesen
Yes, prediction disagreements.
Not as catchy.
jordan holmes
No, different.
dan friesen
So, when I say that I think that Alex is just using some tough talk, I mean, he even says as much.
Yeah, we've been here before.
alex jones
When he was starting to get out of the UN, starting to expose the whole operation, that was great.
Now he's suddenly talking about the vaccine being good, and he's suddenly talking about wearing masks.
He's trying to have both sides for politics.
Here's the problem.
They're going to blame Trump regardless.
They're already calling it...
Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi are already calling it the Trump virus.
So by him now legitimizing the hoax...
That's only legitimizing their attack saying the virus is now the Trump virus.
And so if Trump won't listen to people being nice to him, well, I'll be mean to him.
Just like Tucker Carlson has said on record and personally to me, Trump doesn't take people being nice to him.
He takes people being very, very serious with him.
dan friesen
So, I mean, that's all this is.
Alex feels like an ignored child and he's lashing out.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I will throw a tantrum and get what I want.
Because normally when I throw a tantrum...
dan friesen
Yeah, it seems to work with the people around him.
I would say that I don't understand this because if what Alex is saying is true, that Trump responds to tough talk and not people being nice to him, then why for years has Alex been crying about how much he loves Trump?
jordan holmes
Don't notice that.
dan friesen
It seems like that would be not effective back then when that was most of what he did.
I don't know.
And in terms of the scale of things, this is way beneath Trump shoves ISIS up our dirty assholes.
That night of crying drunkenly about Trump bombing Syria.
jordan holmes
Still great.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's the high water mark.
This is still well below this.
And it's just sad.
It's just very sad.
jordan holmes
He just doesn't entertain the thought for a second that maybe, just maybe, we got this one wrong.
Just not for one second is he like, oh, if even Trump is doing this.
There's got to be a better angle on it than just like, I think Trump is...
dan friesen
Blackmailed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but even then, Trump is such a weak dude to be blackmailed that easily about something that's a hoax.
This is the globalist takeover, Dan.
And Trump hasn't been blackmailed up until this point.
And now, at the most important point, they just blackmail him real quick.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you also have to recognize, like, what could that blackmail be?
Like, if Alex is going to try and push this scenario, like, it's got to be like he killed a guy or something.
You know, like, right?
jordan holmes
Nah, that'd be fine.
He could work his way through that one.
dan friesen
Yeah, it'd have to be worse than that.
jordan holmes
They must have stolen something.
Holding something ransom.
Now, there's your angle.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
They have kidnapped...
dan friesen
He doesn't care about his family?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
His secret family.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
See, there we go.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Or they've stolen his penis.
Why not?
Let's just have something.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
It's got to be something.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex gets into, like, you know, the thesis is, like I said, is Trump friend or foe?
We've had Alex yelling about how he works for the New World Order, but he's also the real deal.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Trump is going along with this scam and is evil or doing this evil stuff that the New World Order wants him to, but he'll respond to me being mean to him in tough talk.
jordan holmes
Trump is having it both ways, while at the same time, I am going to have it both ways.
dan friesen
And this puts things in a very difficult position for the election, quite frankly, because, like, okay...
Uh, you abandoned Trump.
Now what?
Biden?
jordan holmes
Vote for the guy who's being blackmailed, Dan!
dan friesen
You already have said that if Biden wins, the devil is going to take over the earth.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, you can't possibly have a credible argument for voting third party.
jordan holmes
Like, what are you gonna do?
That'll be tough.
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex has backed himself into a terrible corner, which makes it empty when he says things like this.
alex jones
Call the fraud out!
Don't have half measures!
God said in the Bible!
You were neither hot nor cold.
I spit you out of my mouth.
We don't need lukewarm monkey vomit here.
We need reality.
Fauci goes or you go.
The Rockefeller combine run by Gates goes or you go.
No more half measures with these people.
dan friesen
So, I mean, Alex is laying this out like...
Hey, Trump, you take out all these people I've declared enemies or you're out.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
We all know how this is going to go.
Nothing's going to happen and Alex isn't going to leave Trump.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's going to make some sort of a fucking mealy-mouthed argument about why, hey, actually, it's not Trump's fault.
We've played this game a thousand times.
It's just so, it's sad.
unidentified
I just, he's lost.
dan friesen
Lost a creative, like something creative.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's going to have to make the lesser of two evils argument.
dan friesen
He's going to.
jordan holmes
And that's going to be the saddest day in history for everyone.
dan friesen
Well, here's the thing.
He'll have to do that if he keeps going down this road.
But I don't think he's going to keep going down this road.
jordan holmes
Pitch, just scream Ron Paul for three hours.
dan friesen
I mean, that's what he should have done in 2015.
jordan holmes
Go to work.
Just try screaming real loud.
dan friesen
The one lesson, I think the cautionary tale for future scam artists that Alex Jones really fully embodies is never stop supporting your dead-end candidates.
Never stop.
If you are some sort of a scam person in the far political fringe and you've built up this whole cottage industry surrounding...
Not trusting anyone in the establishment and everybody is evil except for X. Never stray.
Keep on the Rand Paul tip.
By the way, day seven.
jordan holmes
Still no debate with Rand Paul.
dan friesen
Rand Paul's a coward.
jordan holmes
Hashtag Rand Paul is a coward.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Will not debate me.
dan friesen
Yeah, I just think that it's, I mean, Alex, almost all the problems in his life could probably have been averted if he would have just...
Stayed with Rand and Ron Paul.
jordan holmes
Do you know, I think what's strange is we will ultimately have created, at the end of this, at the end of our examination of Alex Jones, not the end of our show, but I think we will have accidentally created the best manual for a scammer in history.
Like, us...
Going through every mistake that Alex has ever made in his career, and even pitching better alternatives, has somehow turned this into a manual for a better grifter.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, that is an unfortunate side effect.
jordan holmes
We are the whetstone sharpening grifters against us.
dan friesen
I guess, I mean, you gotta take the good with the bad, I suppose.
And if someone wants to use this podcast for evil...
Can't really stop them.
Although, I will say that I think that their techniques will be very transparent for anybody who's listened to our show.
Anyway, when Alex says Fauci goes or you go, that kind of stuff, like I said, it's empty.
It's a meaningless sort of threat.
It's a baby throwing a tantrum.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and if he goes, it's not like Fauci then will go.
It's not like you're going to replace Trump with somebody who's going to get rid of Fauci.
You're going to keep...
dan friesen
You're going to get Biden then.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who is also going to keep Fauci.
So there's no...
It's you or them.
That's a false even concept.
dan friesen
Unless Fauci retires.
I mean, he's been in that position for like 40-something years.
jordan holmes
And that's just the past few months.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, I don't actually know how old he is, but I don't know when people retire either.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a fair point.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Conceivably, I could see him retiring at some point.
But yeah, look, this is just stupid.
My point is...
This dichotomy of you go or Fauci goes is empty.
It's meaningless.
It's just a tantrum.
And it doesn't even continue more than five minutes on this episode because...
alex jones
We have to ask ourselves, is President Trump a good guy or a bad guy?
He's a good guy.
But he's got a bunch of cowardly advisors around him telling him Americans are cowards and they want to wear masks and they want to believe in COVID.
So if you come out...
And say that every real death that happens, they will blame on you.
dan friesen
There's no development.
It's the same thing as ever.
Trump is good.
He is hero.
He is king dad.
But everyone around him is bad.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Yeah.
He still hired everybody around him.
And then he's fired a bunch of them and hired other people to replace them.
So not only has he hired cowards the first time, he's hired more cowards multiple times to fill the same positions.
dan friesen
You can't get one non-coward?
Have you considered Obama?
jordan holmes
What if he hired Obama to be his campaign manager?
dan friesen
No, I mean...
Obama.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
He hired some people.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Right.
Yeah, I mean, it is a problem.
But this is, yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, maybe that's even, like, of all the things that we talk about that make him unfit for the presidency.
Ultimately, the presidency is going to be synthesizing information brought to you from all of these different things, along with a huge number of advisors trying to chart out the best path.
It's a group effort, right?
dan friesen
Sure, it should be.
jordan holmes
So the ability to hire people and listen to them seems like the most important thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, it's admin work, and that's why it's called an administration.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I mean, that's probably not why, but the words are similar.
jordan holmes
Something along those lines.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're an executive.
You should delegate and be able to hire competent people and have good instincts on that front, and it's clear that Trump fucking doesn't, even by Alex's own metrics and standards.
And I'm just weary.
I'm weary of this stupid excuse of everyone around him is a coward and bad.
Because, like, if someone were trying to have, like, an actual conversation about the pros and cons of the Obama administration, and they wanted to talk about, like, the good, the bad, all of it, and someone was like, Obama's a great guy, he just hired and surrounded himself with cowards.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here!
dan friesen
That's the weakest excuse for anything.
You can't use that as some kind of, like, actual defense of, like, obviously, yeah, there are people who...
Do things outside of your control.
Yeah, sure.
That's how systems work.
jordan holmes
Sure.
But he hired Tim Geithner on purpose.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
To do what he did.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's an empty, empty excuse, no matter who uses it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Whether it's someone on the left or someone on the right, and it's just pathetic.
It's an indication that Alex can't handle even just the basic topics that he tries to cover.
So, from here, Alex launches off into nonsense, and it doesn't really matter.
You know, he complains about Fauci and the virus and whatever, but it's all just the same stuff we've heard over and over again.
And so I wanted to just pick out some of the stuff that's kind of new-ish.
Alex discusses his conception of what he wants to happen in the world.
And basically, he wants to empower the developing world in order for them to rise up.
Because he believes that that will have an equal effect on rising up the developed world, the first world.
And this is silly.
alex jones
They don't want the third world to aspire to a first world system, a pro-human future.
I want to empower the first world.
I want to empower the third world.
And this entire globalist system that's been set up is about destroying those ladders up for the third world into the first world.
Because if we really empower the third world, well, the first world is going to go off world.
dan friesen
Okay.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
We're moving everybody up one.
We're moving everybody up one world.
Third world, second world.
Second world, first world.
First world, off world.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I like it.
That's a type one civilization right there, Dan.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
So...
dan friesen
In Alex's idea, I guess, what he thinks is, you know, we'll support the developing world so they can rise up to, you know, first world developed world status, and then we'll leave them behind.
jordan holmes
Yes, a rising tide lifts all boats, and the ones who are the highest up just go off.
alex jones
Yeah.
unidentified
I don't think that that's a good model.
I want to empower the third world so we can leave them.
jordan holmes
What is that?
dan friesen
I mean, isn't that what kind of Elysium is?
The movie where the elites end up living on a planet thing while the planet itself dies?
jordan holmes
Listen, I still want them to be laborers.
Don't get me wrong here.
dan friesen
I don't see how this works in any real world application or how...
I don't feel like it's a good path forward.
jordan holmes
We're going to need to see the paperwork on the Human Defense Foundation before we can really decide.
dan friesen
Now, I do agree with Alex that we should empower the developing world and help.
So good on...
Now, I think we have different versions of what that means.
But just from a word standpoint...
jordan holmes
He's not even like, and we'll all go to the stars.
No, no, no.
I'm enforcing the class system.
100%.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Don't get me wrong.
dan friesen
And because we know Alex, he's talking about the West, and we know that that means white people.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Alex believes white people need to go to space.
jordan holmes
We may be able to find some agreement in that maybe the best place for white people is off the board.
dan friesen
He doesn't want, like, China to go to space.
jordan holmes
They're doing a great job.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Maybe.
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Anyway.
So Alex is talking about the globalists.
They don't want the developing world to, you know, aspire to developed world status or something.
They also don't want independent movie studios existing.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And then Alex just loses the fucking thread.
alex jones
Okay.
Really what the globalists don't want.
They don't want big, huge free countries and amazing free corporations and ideas and all sorts of independent film companies around the world putting out different cultural ideas and humans setting up colonies and some humans want to go off and fly ships into black holes and other humans want to go off and go interdimensional and other humans want to merge with machines but it's all done according to free will.
They don't want that free will.
dan friesen
Okay.
So the globalists are worried about people deciding to fly into black holes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
We're doing a lot of space stuff today.
Going a little spacey.
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex might have maybe went down to Cape Canaveral while he was down in Florida.
Yeah, might have gone to NASA.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Took a tour.
I would say that it is my feeling that if people were merging with machines of their own free will, Alex would be screaming about that.
jordan holmes
He would not be happy about it.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
There's no way that that could happen and Alex believe that it's free will to do so.
unidentified
Totally.
jordan holmes
Totally.
Yeah, he doesn't even get to complain about that.
He doesn't even think that's possible.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
His idea of a utopia seems to be independent film studios all over the place.
On the mo- Some people living in space.
People choosing to fly into black holes.
jordan holmes
Why not?
Spaghettification sounds fun!
dan friesen
God, we gotta invest in this human defense league.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Of all the wacky futures we could have, I assume there were worse.
dan friesen
I'm Alex Jones.
I am going to fly into a black hole so the Sandy Hook people can't take my money.
unidentified
The only way to defend my assets is to fly this X-Wing into a black hole.
dan friesen
I have hired Elon Musk to build me an X-Wing.
He's moving to Texas.
He's going to build it in my backyard.
jordan holmes
I've created an Einstein-Rosen bridge that I will use to first travel to Florida.
dan friesen
You wonder why these people are talking about coming to Texas.
It's because Elon Musk is building me an X-Wing.
And Joe Rogan is going to captain the X-Wing.
Because I will be too drunk the whole time.
And I can't fly.
jordan holmes
You're not going into a black hole sober.
dan friesen
No, certainly not.
Me and Joe Rogan will record a podcast as we go into a black hole.
It will be the highest rated podcast of all time.
jordan holmes
That's because it will never end!
dan friesen
Eddie Bravo will be guesting from Earth along with Tim Pool.
jordan holmes
We will be existing in the singularity until the end of time.
dan friesen
This is for...
The betterment of humanity.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
That sounds right.
dan friesen
So, Alex has one last clip here.
It's not a very long special report.
A lot of special reports inside the special report.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Much like the box in a box.
Yeah.
And so he has...
This is the last clip that I have, and it's Alex taking issue with Joe Biden, which is fine.
Apparently, Charlemagne the God, the radio host.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Has made some comments.
And it's interesting because I have a critique of what Joe Biden said that Charlemagne the God is critiquing.
And I think that Alex has a separate one.
I can't wait to add a take.
alex jones
Joe Biden has come out and said, if you don't vote for me, you're not black.
Charlemagne, big talk show host, Charlemagne the God said, that's BS.
Well, now he's come out and said...
That God tells Joe Biden to shut the F up over first racist president remark.
So a shuttleman that God tells Joe Biden to shut the F up over first racist president remark, saying that President Trump is the first racist president in U.S. history.
That's obviously an insult.
It's obviously not true.
It's obviously a fraud.
And anyone who buys it is in a cult.
And this is what Joe Biden's doing.
dan friesen
He doesn't really analyze this any further or what his complaint is, but if you actually read Charlemagne's comments, it's like, a bunch of presidents had slaves.
It's a ridiculous thing to say he's the first racist president, and that would be my same critique, would be like, no, there have been plenty of racist presidents in our history.
Alex doesn't...
It seems like that would be his angle.
It seems like he's more invested in Trump isn't racist.
That seems to be his rebuttal, but since he doesn't really get into it, I don't know what he's taking issue with, but it can't possibly be that, like, no.
Most of the presidents...
jordan holmes
I doubt he's going to be like, now, obviously, Woodrow Wilson famously hosted several viewings of Birth of the Nation.
I don't know.
dan friesen
He doesn't like Wilson much.
jordan holmes
Well, see, go with that.
dan friesen
Go with that.
jordan holmes
I mean, hey, you could even be like, well, Trump isn't as racist as Wilson, and you'd probably be right.
dan friesen
Well...
Alex has invested in the argument that there isn't a racist past in America, and the roots of our country don't have overwhelming racist features to them.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So Alex coming at this Biden comment from the perspective of, look at Wilson, let's say, that doesn't work for him, because then it opens up a larger conversation.
Hey, isn't it weird that a bunch of our presidents have been, like, big old racists?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, I mean...
dan friesen
That hurts his ability to be like, hey, America's great.
Now, granted, we haven't been the best all the time.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It erodes away at that facade.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That veneer that he's able to put up.
So, I think, from everything I can tell, his response would be...
Trump isn't racist.
That's why this comment is stupid.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because the alternative, the critique that you and I would have, or Charlemagne has...
jordan holmes
Or any right-thinking person.
dan friesen
Right.
That's too threatening to the image that Alex has.
jordan holmes
There's the obvious, obvious way to go here.
And if he doesn't do it, if he doesn't follow along...
Like, if he follows this thread and he doesn't go the obvious route, I'm going to be very annoyed.
And also, that's exactly what I expect.
But the obvious thing to say is...
Obama was our first racist president.
That's the way he has to go, right?
See?
Obama's our first racist president.
That's the way you do it.
All narratives flow from there.
dan friesen
I've definitely heard some right-wing people say that.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
Alex doesn't unpack this in any way that I find meaningful or actual.
He doesn't say more about it.
I think that's fun.
Whenever, like, people can come at a comment from disapproving positions but be completely in disagreement.
That's really interesting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the enemy of my enemy is not my friend in this regard.
dan friesen
The enemy of my enemy is, what are you talking about?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
jordan holmes
The enemy of my enemy is trying to get off world right now!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, this episode's a bit shorter here, and part of the reason is because this is a short report, and a lot of it is, like I've said, it's very repetitious.
But Alex has been out of studio for a week, and it's important to me to check in on when he comes back.
This is when he comes back, and...
jordan holmes
This is what we got.
dan friesen
He's fumbling.
He's fumbling hard, and I think it's a disaster.
I think it's lame.
I think it's indicative of more trouble ahead.
I don't think he has anywhere to go.
Like, what?
Trump endorses a vaccine.
Let's say, fantasy world scenario, a vaccine becomes available in October, let's say.
Trump endorses it.
What does Alex do?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
Bail?
jordan holmes
Lights himself on fire like a Vietnamese monk?
dan friesen
Does he bail on Trump month before the election, throw his sport behind Biden, who he said is going to unleash the literal Christian devil?
I don't see how he could do that.
jordan holmes
That'd be fun, though.
dan friesen
Like, support Trump or say nobody should win?
Functionally, that's supporting Biden.
Like, what do you do?
He's got nothing.
jordan holmes
Okay, so here's what I would do.
dan friesen
He's got nothing.
jordan holmes
I would go...
Full sarcastic.
Zero positive coverage of Trump.
Zero coverage of Trump at all.
Only say things about Biden as if you are supporting Biden.
dan friesen
Satire.
jordan holmes
But like satirically, you know, like, I love the way Biden, and then just do it to piss off the libs by pointing out all the shit that Biden does that you actually do agree with.
Be like, I think we should vote for Biden because he always loves his First Amendment and Delaware and all my money and that whole thing.
dan friesen
I have two slight different plans.
That's not a terrible plan, but here are the two that I would go with.
One, hey, Alex Jones here, starting a political action committee to convince Hillary to run third party.
unidentified
So we have something to distract everybody from.
jordan holmes
We all want fun.
dan friesen
It's real comfortable stuff for me.
What's happening right now is not working for me at all.
And I don't have anywhere to go.
And I really would like to yell about Hillary, so please run third party.
jordan holmes
So easy.
Love it.
dan friesen
Hillary, Michelle Obama ticket.
I will yell about it.
Everybody will have a good time.
jordan holmes
It'll be great.
dan friesen
Or, second option.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We're going to space.
Fuck electoral politics, because I'm starting a foundation to go to the moon.
jordan holmes
Maybe even go full that direction.
Look, the country nationalism is all over.
There are no countries.
There's only one country left.
The moon!
dan friesen
Hey, look, InfoWars has been a lot of fun.
We've started by talking about...
The Federal Reserve.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The Globalists.
I've pretended to have read a book by Carol Quigley for about 20 years, and I have not read it.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
jordan holmes
Made it through about 800 pages.
dan friesen
Hey, look, I just heard W. Cleon Stilesen talk about it once, and I pretended I read it.
It was really no big deal.
I founded a career on it.
Look, we've had a lot of fun.
It's been great.
A lot of yelling about Clinton, and then Obama, and then 9-11.
jordan holmes
Clinton again.
dan friesen
Look, this is a space cult now.
jordan holmes
Now that's an ad pivot right there.
dan friesen
I don't know how to tell you this, but there is nothing left for me in the world of politics.
I have clearly been transitioning into being a cult leader, and now we need to go to space.
jordan holmes
Time to do it.
Get your sneakers, get your punch, let's do this, baby.
dan friesen
That's the only other option, I think.
And good luck with the Foundation.
jordan holmes
I hope they discover a new comet soon.
You know, like in the next month or two.
If they discover a new comet, that's going to be great.
dan friesen
I hope they don't, because we've seen how dangerous that can be and how destructive it is.
And I do not wish that upon people who have been sucked into Alex's bullshit.
I apologize if this is a little bit disappointing.
We'll see what happens when Alex gets back into studio proper because, you know, it's always a crapshoot whenever he does these special reports and these emergency Saturday episodes because sometimes he can come in with a head of steam and he can really wow you.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
He can knock your socks off.
And then sometimes he comes in and he's not even trying.
And I don't think that this was even really trying.
I think that he knew that he had to give some kind of a front-facing, I don't approve of this, Trump.
I'm going to talk to you like a baby who's mad and shaking my finger.
And I think that he just did that to do it.
And we'll see if it carries over into his actual show that people watch.
Because no one's watching this shit.
jordan holmes
This is very perfunctory.
Everything about this seems just like, you expect it, I expect it, we're just gonna do it, and it'll be done, we'll all move on with our lives.
This just needs to happen.
dan friesen
Now, if Trump doesn't continue talking about people wearing masks, Alex can pretend that his tough talk worked.
jordan holmes
Did it.
dan friesen
If he doesn't, or if he does keep talking about masks, then I guess he can...
jordan holmes
Blackmailed, globalist, he heard what I'm saying, but he's playing three-dimensional chess by...
Listening to me in private, and then he's kowtowing, but eventually, when the vaccine comes, it'll only kill our enemies.
Get the vaccine.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
We'll see what happens.
But, yeah.
unidentified
This has been...
dan friesen
The launch of a space cult.
We'll see you next time, but until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight, and I go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
And if you could, please find a local charity in your area or bail fund to help people out doing God's work.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
I am the...
What do you call it?
I'm the chair of the...
I'm the chairman of the Human Defense League.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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