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July 6, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#453: July 2, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan take an exhaustive look at two shows Alex Jones recorded on July 2nd. In his morning show, Alex rambles about cyborgs and puts off covering big news about the arrest of Ghislaine Maxwell. To make up for not getting to it on his normal show, Alex returns to air in the evening and tries to cover the big news of the day, with depressing results.

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Main voices
a
alex jones
27:50
d
dan friesen
01:04:32
j
jordan holmes
21:48
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bishop larry gaiters
01:44
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andy in kansas
00:01
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding me.
andy in kansas
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your world.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
alex jones
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
Okay, my bright spot, Jordan, is gonna be real zen for you.
jordan holmes
It's gonna be real zen.
dan friesen
It's the little things.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
It's having fun and enjoying the small stuff.
You know, like, I'm in this new apartment now, and I've been really enjoying little things like putting up a shelf.
jordan holmes
Right!
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's almost blowing my mind the way in which a wall can be changed by just a couple screws and a little piece of wood going in there.
And you can really customize things a lot in that way that I've never really done that with apartments in the past because I've always felt like such...
Such disdain for a lot of these terrible apartments I was living in.
And it's really interesting to just relish that.
You came over, I'm in the middle of building a little shelf thing for some plants.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Upcoming new Plant Watch series.
jordan holmes
Plant Watch will be coming, yes.
dan friesen
But yeah, just the thought of the planning of where am I going to put these shelves based on what's going to go on them.
I don't know, this is just elementary stuff that probably I should have...
jordan holmes
No, I don't...
dan friesen
Again, this is the, like, I learned how to cook a chicken breast of home stuff.
jordan holmes
No, I get it.
dan friesen
Like, I'm a 36-year-old man who's like, Hey, you know what?
It's fun to put up a shelf and put a plant on it.
jordan holmes
Now, this is different.
This is different because...
unidentified
It's not really.
jordan holmes
From what I am hearing, you are seeing your walls for the first time as possibilities as opposed to confinements.
That's the way that I am reading this.
You are seeing...
dan friesen
That's a poetic way to put it, and I'll allow it.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, thank you.
dan friesen
Yeah, how about you?
jordan holmes
Oh, well, my bright spot is nakedly capitalistic, of course.
dan friesen
Mine is enjoying the little things in life, of course.
jordan holmes
We've got new merch.
unidentified
We do.
jordan holmes
We've got some new merch.
We teamed up with a new group of people.
dan friesen
Do we team up?
jordan holmes
I have no idea.
There's mugs.
There's magnets.
You can get a tapestry.
So go for it.
Get it!
Tapestry with an emotional support pelican on there and save some lives.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's my advice.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a link up on our website now over at knowledgefight.com.
It says merch, and you can be directed over to the TeePublic store where there's a ton of various things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, get some stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah, if you'd like, they're there for you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we would love it.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
We're talking about...
July 2nd, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is now my Autonomous Zone.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I should tell you a couple things.
unidentified
What's that?
dan friesen
One, we're going to cover two episodes today, but it's all for one day.
jordan holmes
Both on just a second?
Okay, that's kind of...
dan friesen
What happened is Alex Jones had a complete freakout on the 2nd of July.
He was supposed to not be in studio.
He had already said in advance that he was taking Thursday off.
But then Ghislaine Maxwell got arrested, and he realized he had to come in.
jordan holmes
Something's gotta happen.
dan friesen
So he came in and did his show, and then for some reason decided to come back and do another two hours at seven.
jordan holmes
Of course!
dan friesen
In the evening.
jordan holmes
You gotta!
dan friesen
So this is gonna be a complete disaster on Alex's part.
It's going to be the walk through a mind that is completely fractured.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And lost.
jordan holmes
I imagine the seven o 'clock show is fully sober.
dan friesen
It's not Hatchet.
I'll tell you that.
It's not that.
But he does cry a bit.
unidentified
Who knows?
dan friesen
I want to say this in advance.
There is, of course, some talk about crimes against children and that sort of thing at the beginning of the episode.
I don't believe that it's as hard and awful for the entire time.
But at the beginning of the episode, there is some content that I would probably advise maybe if you're sensitive about those sort of things.
Stay away from.
jordan holmes
And if that's all you want to hear, we'll see you at the end.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, before we get down to business on that, Jordan, I'm going to take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
So, first, I'm not entirely sure how to pronounce this, but Step-Anthony or Steph-Anthony?
I'm not entirely sure, but either way, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Steph-Anthony.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Flanfnir.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Flanfnir.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
Next, Apartment.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much, Apartment.
dan friesen
Thank you, Apartment.
Next, Justin B. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Justin B. Thank you so much.
dan friesen
Next, Christofferson K. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Hold on.
Christofferson's dead, right?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I think he is.
jordan holmes
Is that how he's tricking us?
unidentified
Is he starting with Chris Christopherson Chris?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I see this.
I see this now.
dan friesen
I'm not entirely sure.
I know that he was a sailor.
jordan holmes
He was a sailor who fell from grace with the sea, famously.
dan friesen
With the sea he did abide.
unidentified
He sailed a schooner round the horn of Mexico.
dan friesen
Highwaymen.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Next, Big Fuckboy.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Another one of the highway men.
unidentified
Big fuckboy.
jordan holmes
Big fuckboy, yeah.
He's great.
dan friesen
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on Elevated Level.
We appreciate that very much.
So, Kyle D., thank you so much.
You're now a technocrat.
And Bimbo Shaggins, thank you so much.
You're now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brood.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare...
Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Kyle, and thank you so much, Bimbo Shaggin.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show, I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, we would appreciate it, or if you'd like to, you could take that generosity, germinate it, much like a little seed in a planter, and watch it grow, and then deliver it to a charity in your area.
jordan holmes
Did you write that in advance?
dan friesen
I've been reborn with my creativity and my ability to ramble.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so we would appreciate either of those things.
dan friesen
Yep.
So also, really quick, Jordan, before we get down to business, on the actual episode, I wanted to take a little moment to thank a couple people who got some things over our way in the mailbag.
jordan holmes
Oh, perfect!
dan friesen
I don't know if you see over there, you get a little beer koozie.
jordan holmes
Little beer koozie.
dan friesen
Or for me, a seltzer koozie.
jordan holmes
Fuck ease.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is from Anna.
And she writes, Dan, enjoy the...
And Jordan, of course.
Enjoy these novelty beverage accessories.
When we get something cool here, I'll send one along.
So I assume that means when there's a cool novelty seltzer.
That's great.
An animal sent something to fill one of them.
jordan holmes
That's great.
That's lovely.
dan friesen
Yeah, so thank you very much, Jordan.
You can put one of your wine bottles in there.
jordan holmes
I shall put a full wine bottle in there.
dan friesen
And then also, Mary Catherine sent us each the oxygen finger readers.
unidentified
Oh, yes!
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Have you gotten a chance to use that yet?
dan friesen
I have not, because apparently it's not something you really need to use unless you end up getting sick.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But that was very kind and very thoughtful, along with this note.
Dan, and then of course...
jordan holmes
Don't worry.
Nobody's written my name.
Nobody's written mine.
dan friesen
No, actually, there were two notes.
One was to me and one was to you.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's very sweet.
dan friesen
This is just the one that was to me.
jordan holmes
That's very sweet.
dan friesen
Dan, probably the most important thing you can have in your home if you happen to get sick, which I hope you guys won't.
Your podcast is getting me through a really tough time.
Thank you from Mary Catherine, not a health ranger.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Mary.
And we do also hope we don't need them, but it's good to have the oximeter in the home on the off chance.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
So thank you all, both of you, Anna and Mary Catherine.
jordan holmes
Yes, we're very grateful.
unidentified
Zip!
dan friesen
Mailbag's closed.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Now, Jordan, down to business.
We're going to start here on July 2nd for the normal show, regular show, daytime show.
And Alex, you know, of course, the big news is Ghislaine Maxwell has been arrested.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And Alex, like, I really thought for sure this was going to be all he talked about.
jordan holmes
Right!
I mean, this is the culmination of all pedophile ring stories since the beginning of time.
dan friesen
And it is some of what he talks about.
And at the beginning of the show, there's a bit of it.
But it factors much less into this episode than I expected it to.
alex jones
You have to understand, the Podesta brothers, especially Tony, are public about their love of sex with children.
They even flaunt it in our face with the 2007 full spread in the newspaper in the Washington Post showing toddlers tied up.
Being tortured and raped.
Paintings of it, though, it's his deviant avant-garde art.
And then they used a few little corrections we did on stories we covered that weren't exactly right.
dan friesen
Pizzagate.
jordan holmes
Little is carrying a lot of weight in that.
alex jones
Stories saying there is no pedophile rings.
Remember that about CNN.
Remember that about MSNBC, ABC News.
All of them.
Megyn Kelly.
Who made it their life's work to try to destroy Infowars because we have been exposing Epstein specifically and the Podestas and all of these people for more than 15 years.
dan friesen
So that's interesting.
Claim.
jordan holmes
Ironically, little is probably the biggest word in that sentence.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
Leaving that aside, the first thing that's important to point out here is that Alex's story of what it was that he was covering that made the globalists ban him from social media keeps changing.
It just depends on whatever story he's trying to pretend he's been right about forever.
For a while now, he's been saying that they preemptively took him off the air so he couldn't be the voice of COVID-19 denialism.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
But I guess that isn't the case, because I guess it's actually because he covers Epstein news.
jordan holmes
Well, it's deeper than that.
dan friesen
It should go without saying that there are many, many outlets that cover Epstein news, and they are not banned from social media.
It runs the gamut from mainline reporters to podcasts, and Alex pretending that he's the only voice daring enough to touch the issue is embarrassing.
jordan holmes
Now, I read a story about The Guardian, and the entire newspaper and website was taken down just a minute ago.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's very fast.
dan friesen
So, I've touched on this in the past, but Alex did not talk about Jeffrey Epstein in his early career.
Or if he did, I can find no evidence that he did.
If you search for the name Epstein on Infowars, specifically for articles posted prior to January 1st, 2015, you'll get tons and tons of results.
However, these are articles with headlines like, Most Americans oppose health law, but like provisions.
Or, Florida holds fast to January 31st primary date.
These articles have nothing to do with Epstein at all, but the way Info's website is built is that it takes archived content and then it adds in links to new breaking stories.
So, there's a new headline about a, quote, bronze Jeffrey Epstein statue found in Albuquerque, and now that headline being in the link section of all these old articles causes them to populate in searches for the name Epstein.
jordan holmes
That is irresponsible.
dan friesen
I don't know if it is.
I think it's just a way to game search algorithms.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
No, that's the only thing that makes sense, and it sucks.
dan friesen
Or it's some sort of just like...
I know that his site is completely unnavigatable for the most part.
And I feel like this is probably some oversight.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
It's hard to say that it's intentional.
Because it's not universal to Alex's websites.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, it's only the case with Infowars.
Prison Planet doesn't work the same way.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Never attribute to cleverness towards gaming the algorithm what could go towards incompetence in the staff.
dan friesen
I think he has terrible webmasters.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's...
dan friesen
I think that could explain a fair amount of it.
Right, right, right.
In June 2008, Epstein was initially convicted by a Florida court of procuring an underage girl for the purposes of prostitution.
If you search N4's website specifically for articles about Epstein that were published between the beginning of 2008 and January 1, 2009, nothing comes up.
I found this really hard to believe, since Alex claims that he was the first one on this Epstein beat way back when, and from everything I can tell, he's just making that up.
I decided to look a little further and found that there are no posts that contain the word Epstein that were published on Prison Planet, Alex's original mirror site prior to 2015.
That seems really weird because that was the site that was much less focused on Flash and was more just about having the articles there.
And like I said, it doesn't have that same old articles with the new headlines.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That felt weird.
So I decided to consult the Wayback Machine and see if I could get a better sense of Alex's website and the homepage around that time.
On July 26th, 2006, The Smoking Gun published an article covering the probable cause affidavit in the Epstein case, which is the one he would eventually plead guilty to in 2008.
So my thinking went like this.
If Alex was all over this story, then he would have every reason to have been covering it by that date, July 26th, 2006.
I have no idea about the inner workings of the smoking gun or their editorial competence, but since that article exists on that platform by that date, there's no excuse for Alex to not have covered it as well by that point if it was something that he was all over.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
He's the tip of the spear, Dan.
dan friesen
There's no snapshot of Infowars from that day, but the next available one is August 10th, 2006.
A whole lot of the website.
I would say almost the entire thing is 9-11 conspiracies.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
There's a lot of links about Middle East conflict, which makes sense given the media landscape in 2006.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
On the sidebar of the site, there's a big list of topics, like the main topics of InfoWars.
They include Total Surveillance Society.
Cashless society control grid, embedded microchips, RFID, skull and bones, bohemian groves, seltzers, the next big thing, Freemasonry, and the Patriot Act.
These are the themes that what Infowars was all about back then, because that was the fringe of what you might call conservative conspiracy topics at the time.
There's no trace of the current flavors of Alex Jones on his site in 2006.
He talks about globalists, but there aren't articles talking about how they worship the literal devil and they're obsessed with hurting children.
There's fundamental differences and fundamental similarities in there, but the differences are glaring.
Then let's also consider this, like in terms of trying to sort through the pieces of like, where is this reporting then, if you've been covering this for 15 years?
You and I have both watched Endgame and The Obama Deception in their entirety.
At no point in either of his big attempts at documentary glory did he even bring up Epstein.
But he definitely should have, if what Alex is pretending is the case was accurate.
As far as I can tell, Alex didn't cover Epstein at all until the fairly recent past.
And you know what?
That's okay.
I don't really think that's a problem.
I don't expect Alex to hit every story, and particularly back in that stretch of time between 2006 and 2009, he had fewer writers to cover everything that came up.
It's okay for Alex to have not covered Epstein until Pizzagate came along, because it made the connection between Hillary and a giant cabal of pedophile human traffickers.
That was an essential piece of the argument for why Trump needed to be president.
It makes sense that he would start covering all this stuff then.
jordan holmes
You have to, at the very least.
dan friesen
I don't think it's necessarily a failing for Alex to have not covered the story, but from the perspective of present-day Alex...
It is a gigantic failure, primarily because if he didn't cover the story previously, it really does just appear to be him engaging in crass opportunism about a horrific story he's trying to weaponize for his own gain.
From my perspective, that's exactly what this is, and I will believe that until any evidence is provided to the contrary.
I'm not saying that it's impossible that there is, at some point, Alex brought up the name Jeffrey Epstein.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
In the context of reading a headline from that smoking gun article or something like that.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
No, totally.
dan friesen
But the extent that he's claiming, like, I was all over this 15 years ago, I just don't see any evidence that that's the case.
You can find plenty of content from Prison Planet, Infowars.
These websites from the times that these articles should have existed.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So unless Alex has just conveniently taken down all the articles where he broke this story in 2007, 2008, 2009, I don't know what's going on here.
jordan holmes
He did take down a lot of Epstein-related articles, but they were all like, Epstein and Trump, the best friends or the best associates?
dan friesen
friends.
unidentified
Delete, delete.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, get that out of here.
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Also, just because this is funny, I wanted to bring up something that I found to show how nothing ever changes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Oh, no.
dan friesen
In 2006, Alex had a special page on InfoWars'website about MySpace censorship.
jordan holmes
Come on!
unidentified
Yup.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
dan friesen
He set up an email address and implored people to email him if, quote, MySpace removed your page because of politically oriented content.
Nothing ever changes.
It's all the same.
jordan holmes
Keep going further.
Friendster!
Censorship!
dan friesen
What's happening?
jordan holmes
Post office!
Censorship!
dan friesen
I don't believe Alex's self-narrative and self-mythology about this.
It doesn't match up with my experience of...
The Times and Alex's show that I've listened to.
And the parts of his work that I...
I went back and I looked through his bibliography for Endgame just to refresh my memory of everything.
And there's nothing...
There's, like, you know, I mean, obviously, it's a Swiss cheese bibliography full of holes.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But there's still, even things that don't have citations still have the word of the thing.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Sooner we'll have it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And there's nothing about, you know, any of this stuff.
So, I don't know.
If someone could provide any kind of solid, I'm not going to go on a wild goose chase to try and prove Alex right.
For all appearances, this looks like bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and...
I mean, I don't know.
I guess I have to say, in retrospect, it seems like it's too obvious.
It's low-hanging fruit right there.
Like, why would you go on about the Rothschilds whenever, really, they're not even that rich anymore, when right in front of your face, you've got a billionaire connected to the highest echelon of power, and in 2006, we have the affidavit.
There's your guy right there!
dan friesen
Well, I don't know why.
I can't speak for Alex, but I think...
jordan holmes
Trump and Epstein, best friends or bestest friends?
dan friesen
I don't care about Trump.
jordan holmes
I know, I know, I know.
dan friesen
I think that the reality is that that wouldn't have moved the needle.
Rothschild and Rockefeller conspiracy theories are much more easy to sell back then, and that's probably what he wanted to do.
jordan holmes
Crash commercialism.
dan friesen
Yep.
So Alex talks about having secret details that I should tell you he does not ever provide.
alex jones
The president is still going in his live press conference.
We queued it back to the front for you.
We'll have more excerpts of that coming up after he completes the speech.
He's also going to take questions, so you better believe this little jewel is going to get brought up.
Alex Jones to reveal exclusive details of Maxwell's capture and what's coming next as the pedophile House of Cards begins to fall.
dan friesen
That headline is the Infowars article that has the embedded video of the show he's currently doing.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So he believes that Trump is giving a speech and there will be a Q&A and they'll ask about this article that has the embedded video to the show Alex is doing.
That does not end up ever giving secret details about Ghislaine Maxwell's arrest.
jordan holmes
Well, it's hard to find secret details.
You have to work really hard.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I guess I'm being ungenerous because he does talk some shit.
jordan holmes
Okay, well that's kind of like details.
dan friesen
There are no secret details, but he does talk some shit.
Okay.
I guess.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
But there are also some fundamental things that he doesn't quite get.
alex jones
We have the huge...
Ghislaine Maxwell, key super spy, triple spy operative in the Epstein pedophile ring.
That's coming up.
dan friesen
This seems like a little bit of a dick move for me to complain about Alex's pronunciation, given that I butcher a ton of words all the time.
But this one's glaring.
Alex claims to be a big expert on the whole Epstein thing, and yet he doesn't know how to pronounce Ghislaine Maxwell's name, and that strikes me as odd.
jordan holmes
Now, I didn't know how to pronounce it for sure, but I am not an expert on this case, so it doesn't seem out of the ordinary.
dan friesen
I didn't know how to pronounce it for a while, too, because, you know, it's a French name.
jordan holmes
That's why.
dan friesen
I'd only seen it in writing.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So I thought it was pronounced how Alex is pronouncing it, but the difference is...
I decided to check.
jordan holmes
Oh, that would be smart!
dan friesen
And I don't pretend to be an expert who's been on the Epstein beat for 15 fucking years like Alex pretends to.
So, Alex has this entire narrative all built up that what's going on is that Epstein was...
Getting blackmail on people in order to solidify the globalists' control over everything.
But also, he's a middle manager.
He's just like a Renfield, in Alex's Dracula analogy.
jordan holmes
Was Renfield a billionaire in Dracula 2?
I don't remember that.
dan friesen
But he's in the middle.
The other people, like, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
Soros is somewhere.
Yeah, he's lurking.
dan friesen
Alex gets into an argument with a caller about whether or not Epstein's middle management, and it was...
jordan holmes
What is it?
dan friesen
It was unlistenable.
jordan holmes
How do you think Ariel from The Little Mermaid would do on the Cubs?
Do you think she would hit 240?
What do you think?
That's the level of...
dan friesen
No higher than 210.
jordan holmes
That's the level of meaningful argument that is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he's had that narrative about the blackmail stuff for a while.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
That's just sort of taken as read.
But it turns out there's a little bit more to it.
And it made me realize something about Alex's sort of spirituality.
alex jones
So remember, ladies and gentlemen, that they want to control people and they want to get people compromised.
And the only way to really do that, they think, is to have people have sex with children.
Because it also gets God...
To remove his protection from you so they can really get you into the satanic cult.
It's not just about having dirt on you.
It's not just about blackmail.
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to cover it next segment.
dan friesen
I'm going to push this down the road a little bit here.
So I started to think about this and I started to like, what is he talking about?
And I realized that it all just comes from Job.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
So much of this stuff when he talks about God's protection and the hedge of protection, that is all just Job.
It's all him talking about how God allowed Satan to mess with Job in order to prove that he had faith outside of the good things that he had.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Really uplifting book of the Bible, that one.
dan friesen
Right.
It's a very confusing book, looking back on it, from a message standpoint.
jordan holmes
So wait.
God, your point is, don't question me, and I'll fuck up your life and kill your kids, but hey, maybe you'll get 15 more later?
Like, I don't know how that book works.
dan friesen
Even if you're a good and noble person.
alex jones
You're fucked!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Due to the capricious whims of a deity you can't understand.
dan friesen
I will mess you up, because I want to prove a point to Satan.
jordan holmes
For no reason!
dan friesen
Well, there's a reason.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
There must be some big reason to prove a point to Satan.
jordan holmes
You are...
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
The pettiest book of the Bible, I suppose.
dan friesen
It's confusing to me, looking back on it.
But I think that Alex takes a lot from that.
I think that there's a lot of things about his conception.
I think he might think that Job did do something bad.
That removed the hedge of protection.
unidentified
Once again, misunderstanding the point of the book entirely.
dan friesen
It's possible, but I think those ideas are pretty traceable back to that.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And that's kind of weird to me.
It's kind of weird.
So, when I said Alex talked shit, this is the closest he has to inside details about the arrest, and I don't think he can prove this.
alex jones
I know some folks in New York, I'll just leave it at that, who...
Work in and around the Southern District of New York.
And as you know, we also know the state police in New Jersey and New York.
And so I made some phone calls this morning as soon as this broke at about 8 a.m. Central, 9 a.m. Eastern.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
alex jones
And they said absolutely it has to do with Berman being removed a few weeks ago as the U.S. Attorney over the Southern District of New York.
Absolutely, it has to do with the fact that there's been a manhunt for her for almost a year and that some experts believe that she'd been hiding out in certain areas where certain districts were not really trying to get her.
The FBI really wants to get you.
Unless you're living in a cave somewhere, they're going to get you.
dan friesen
As soon as the news broke that Maxwell had been arrested and charged in the Southern District, I knew that Alex would weave the firing of Prosecutor Jeffrey Berman into the story.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's going in there.
dan friesen
As this narrative goes, Berman was protecting Maxwell at the Southern District of New York, so Trump had him fired in order to allow the arrest to happen.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
This is going to be a convoluted narrative to try and make stick for a number of reasons.
For one, Berman's replacement, Aubrey Strauss, has gone on record that Maxwell's arrest was, quote, not at all related to Berman's exit.
Probably more importantly, it was Jeffrey Berman who originally filed the charges against Epstein in 2019.
jordan holmes
That can be falsified.
dan friesen
It seems weird that he would be the one to charge Epstein but then also be responsible for the non-arrest of Maxwell.
I don't know.
Also, this indictment that Maxwell was arrested on was the product of a grand jury, which involves a case being made to a group of citizens who then decide on whether the case moves forward or not.
Grand juries are a pretty secretive affair, so it's hard to know for sure, but it seems unlikely that they would have been able to push through an entire case and get an indictment in the two weeks since Berman was removed.
That seems unlikely.
jordan holmes
Sometimes I just want to, like...
Alex can talk all this shit, but somebody right next to him should just have to, like, start and be like, okay, well, here's how the legal process works.
We're just gonna explain what you gotta do to charge her with a crime.
And he's like, wait, you have to do all of that?
Really?
Can't the president just remove you?
dan friesen
It would be great, too, if, like, Alex is talking about this, like, I called all my sources, and instead of that person sitting next to him, someone has his phone records.
jordan holmes
Which source is that?
Alex, could you refer me back to the time stamp on that call right there?
dan friesen
It looks like you ordered pizza three times.
jordan holmes
Ooh, three times.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
From three different places?
unidentified
I like variety.
dan friesen
A much more likely explanation is that Berman was investigating Trump's associates, and thus he got fired.
The timing of the Maxwell arrest is something that's unclear, and it very well may involve factors that we're not privy to right now.
There might have been a holdup with the grand jury, or there might have been a level of uncertainty surrounding the evidence in the case which prosecutors could have felt might hurt their chances for conviction.
There's a lot we don't know right now, and it's very appealing to fill those gaps with assumptions.
That's a dangerous game that doesn't lead to good places.
I don't believe Alex has any sources here.
I'm pretty sure he's just talking shit, and this is as close as he gets to any kind of, like...
The headline is supposed to be, Alex has deep secret information about the Maxwell arrest.
That's all these guys are like, yeah, it was related to Berman.
jordan holmes
It should really just be, Alex speculates on wild story.
Like, that's it.
Yeah, you got it.
dan friesen
So, Alex insists that as all this is coming down, you know, all these criminals...
Indictments.
Cartoonish things are going to start happening.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
alex jones
As this information...
Begins to be drug out into the sunlight, it's going to be absolutely horrible.
And that's why you're going to see cartoonish things put out into the pop culture that are meant to discredit it like, oh!
There's all these thousands of tunnels underground and hundreds of thousands of children that have never seen light that are living under these caves.
That's not going on.
Are there underground bases globalists have?
Are they abused kids and do horrible cloning experiments?
jordan holmes
Hold on one second.
alex jones
Cyborg stuff?
Absolutely.
Are there kids in dungeons underground?
Better damn believe it.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
alex jones
There's been explosions and earthquakes lately because the special forces are fighting the pedophiles underground.
That's all made up crap.
dan friesen
So, that's confusing.
Because...
jordan holmes
Okay.
You're going to hear cartoonish things.
dan friesen
Like QAnon.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But there's real stuff that sounds almost identical.
jordan holmes
Entirely identical.
dan friesen
And that's the stuff that I'm saying.
jordan holmes
Of course it's real.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Of course it's real.
You're going to hear wild things like there are kids underground and there are tunnels.
Are there kids underground?
dan friesen
Yes.
unidentified
You bet.
jordan holmes
Are there tunnels?
Of course.
But not the same kind.
dan friesen
Right.
That's weird.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that was Alex trying to shit on QAnon and then realizing, oh man, I say the same things.
unidentified
Oh no!
dan friesen
So Alex is teasing this big news that doesn't really ever come.
It has to do with the Maxwell situation.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And he's just teasing it.
But as best as I can tell from listening to the episode, he's already given the news.
jordan holmes
He's got what he's got.
dan friesen
That is that it's related to Berman.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
But he keeps teasing that there's something else coming.
It's infuriating.
alex jones
And so, quite frankly, I want to make a few more phone calls before I...
Because I'm not trying to do a cliffhanger here.
I'm not trying to...
Up the suspense and say, oh, I'll cover it next segment.
I'll cover it the next segment.
jordan holmes
Sounds like it.
alex jones
I'm really not ready to talk about the next leg of this yet because I want to get it exactly right.
Because this is a big deal.
And I also, I'm not afraid of repercussions releasing this information.
jordan holmes
You didn't really have any information.
alex jones
I'm going to talk to a few more people before I do to make sure I get it exactly right.
But obviously, I can't sit on information like this very long.
Most people will be sitting in their office thinking right now about how you handle something like this for a week or two.
And the only reason I'm saying I get a little wild sometimes is I don't have time to sit here as all this keeps coming in, and I already know the backstory, and I have all these incredible contacts and all these sources of my own research.
I don't have time to sit on this stuff, but that means I've got to just shovel it out.
And still, it's not a good feeling, though, when you get such bombshell info that you know is confirmed and real.
To then not think about how you release it a little bit.
You know what I mean?
But when you're in a war and things are happening so fast, you just gotta do the best job you can.
So pray for us.
Pray for InfoWars.
I need your prayers, folks.
I really need your prayers.
This is a big deal.
And the globalists are gonna counter-strike.
2020 is a very special year to the globalists.
dan friesen
It is.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
Yeah, it gets slightly runoff to break there.
I just think that this is like, I gotta come up with something good.
And the writers are hitting a wall.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just think...
It just feels more like stalling than anything else.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
It looks like there's a producer right off camera just going, Expand!
Stretch!
Stretch!
You're almost there.
dan friesen
You're almost at the break.
jordan holmes
Come on!
Hit the break!
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he...
Alex doesn't get to whatever information he's pretending he has, but instead gets really defensive about the idea that, hey, man, people's...
You know, you, Jordan.
You're out there.
You post something about InfoWars, right?
And people will call you crazy.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But then Alex gives you a response.
alex jones
Whenever you try to share an InfoWars link or a NewsWars link or you tell somebody about the New World Order or pedophile rings or Satanism or the AI takeover, world government, and they go, oh, that sounds like Alex Jones bull.
Oh, like talking about Epstein 14 years, 15 years before he was, you know, big in the news.
Years before he got busted for sex trafficking the first time.
And the cover-up.
Because he was in the documents and in the reports as a triple agent of U.S., British, and Israeli intelligence, and he was running the summits with Bill Gates and other top scientists.
And I knew what Bill Gates was up to.
I just follow the information.
dan friesen
So that clip is fun, because it gives even more specifics about Alex, and now he's boxed himself with him even more.
Now he's saying that he was covering Epstein years before the original arrest, which means he was probably, like, what, 2005 or before?
Further, Alex is asserting that he knew about Epstein from some vague documents and running summits that Bill Gates was at.
Because I've listened to countless hours of Alex's show, I know that what he's talking about is the group that Bill Gates was in called The Good Club.
This is a philanthropic collective that included people like Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, David Rockefeller.
The Guardian reported on the group in 2009 and claimed the roster also included Oprah, Ted Turner, and George Soros.
The meeting was apparently prompted by the economic crisis, and there was a pretty public discussion about how uncomfortable the world was with this kind of meeting of billionaires.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that has a real oligarchy kind of nightmare scenario to it.
dan friesen
This article does not mention Epstein at all, but in Alex's reporting on the story, he's recently begun claiming that he's always said that Epstein was the one behind those meetings, or that meeting of those people.
There's no proof of this other than Alex's ranting.
The only evidence I can find offered on conspiracy sites about this is that Epstein was on the board of trustees of the Rockefeller University on whose campus the meeting took place.
That's a fun piece of information for someone like Alex to play around with, but Epstein entered that board in 2000 and only lasted one term before resigning.
The time he was around Rockefeller University doesn't match up with the time when this meeting took place, but because there's a surface-level appearance of connection, Alex has decided to report on this as concrete and real.
jordan holmes
Yikes.
dan friesen
This club did not exist before 2009.
The reporting is pretty clear this is the first time they held such a meeting, and there's no real indication that it's an actual club as much as it is a group of super wealthy philanthropists who are trying to combine their efforts to combat the global economic crisis.
jordan holmes
Which, of course, their better efforts would be combined if they were just hit by a meteor all in the same building and all of their money given away.
dan friesen
Your call on that.
How horrifying or encouraging the idea of that meeting is, is your call.
I'm not here to care water for these billionaires, or to say that the idea of them meeting like that is great, but as far as Alex's claim that Epstein was involved, as best as I can tell, that's completely made up.
And if you consult Alex's old reporting on The Good Club, you'll find that he never brings up Epstein.
This is just an element he's added to the story later, mostly because of how important the narrative is to rationalizing supporting Trump, even though he's a horrible person doing a horrible job.
And then, you know, there are the connections between...
Bill Gates and universities that have come out because of competent reporters.
And Alex is just trying to repackage those into older things that he talked about that had nothing to do with Epstein.
jordan holmes
You know, you can be a shitbag and you can just claim that you knew all of this the whole time.
Or you can build.
You know, you can build on the good reporting.
Alex is not building on the good reporting and adding anything interesting.
dan friesen
He's building.
jordan holmes
Is he?
He's not even building, really.
dan friesen
He's stalling.
He's saying further things, which some might say is adding, but yeah, it's not good.
So, a lot of people probably have been wondering, hey, what does Alex think about J.K. Rowling and her latest escapades into...
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's see how the turfs feel.
dan friesen
Alex is into it, and that's not surprising.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But what is surprising is what Alex believes the quote-unquote trans agenda is about.
alex jones
J.K. Rowling has had her...
Road to Damascus moment.
jordan holmes
30 years ago.
alex jones
And has now come out and said the trans movement is about abusing women and children and about abusing the people they trick into the trans cult who have the highest rates of suicide, drug abuse and death, not because of people being mean to them, but because of the culture and the system and what it does to the average person.
That it's all about giving up our humanity.
It's not about a man becoming a woman or a woman becoming a man.
It's about us becoming cyborgs.
It's about our children saying, we want to be a robot, and I'm a trans robot.
I get a brain chip.
That's what it's about.
And then you can't say no.
You can't make them wait until they're 18. That's not what's coming.
That's here.
dan friesen
He's mixing up trans issues and transhumanism.
jordan holmes
Sure, cyborgs.
dan friesen
I demand that you wait until my child is 18 before you turn him into a robot.
jordan holmes
How dare you give them that mechanical arm until they are 18?
dan friesen
I don't know anymore, man.
jordan holmes
Dan!
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Disappointing.
I can't deal with a 14-year-old with a laser cannon for an arm.
I just can't do it.
dan friesen
Mega Man?
It's Mega Man, not Mega Child.
jordan holmes
It's not Mega Person.
dan friesen
Look, dude, I don't know.
I mostly only play...
I play that clip because I was listening to it and it was sort of shaking my head.
But then I would have probably just ignored it because it's, you know...
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's nonsense.
dan friesen
Yeah, but Alex starts rambling about cyborgs.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
For quite a while.
Apparently, we learn that his dad...
jordan holmes
Hold on.
Let me just really...
I just need to absorb this information.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
J.K. Rowling goes turf on us.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Alex takes that as an opportunity to explain what's wrong with cyborgs.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Okay, now I'm in.
Now I'm in.
Just a recap.
dan friesen
I've not read all of Harry Potter, but I don't know if there are cyborgs in it.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex has a lot of family members that apparently were involved in cyborgs.
jordan holmes
Okay, they were surviving!
dan friesen
Well, they were involved with cyborg-related projects.
alex jones
I remember 17 years ago, a member of my family was in a restricted briefing in Texas for the Army, and they told them, because it was commissioned officers with all the top non-commissioned officers.
jordan holmes
Come on, man.
alex jones
Master sergeants.
Above that.
jordan holmes
You're stalling.
Make up something good.
alex jones
As you know, some of the special forces have been giving chips.
Track them.
But we're going forward.
We've got secret projects, brain chips.
And by 2020, this is going to be rolled out publicly, and we're just going to start basically chipping everybody.
jordan holmes
Wow, they were right on time.
alex jones
And I knew this, and I've been told this by other military, and I said, are you sure I can say that?
Just don't say where it was.
They figured it out.
He got in trouble.
Not too much trouble, but...
jordan holmes
What is that?
This is a 12-year-old telling a story.
unidentified
This is a 12-year-old lying about why they were late to school.
alex jones
You know they tried to hire my dad in like 1983, 1984, to move to Maryland to be in an underground base.
jordan holmes
We need robot teeth!
alex jones
We classified stuff with human cyborgs.
And by the way, it wasn't like he was that special.
They were trying to hire basically all the people whose backgrounds checked out.
As loyal Americans during the Cold War who were doing dental implants.
dan friesen
What the fuck are you talking about?
jordan holmes
No commie dentists!
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No commie dentists!
dan friesen
There's so much wrong with that.
Okay, so my first problem...
jordan holmes
What's your first problem?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, the first most glaring problem is that 17 years ago, so in 2003, Alex's family member tells him that in 2020 they're going to chip everybody.
jordan holmes
Right on time.
dan friesen
Now in 2020, Alex has not been like, hey guys, we've got 10 years left in 2010.
Not to any kind of deadline until we're already at the deadline.
Seems suspicious.
Second.
This family member is like, hey, you can say, just don't say where this happened.
Alex started this off by saying where this happened and realized he had to rationalize why he said that.
jordan holmes
They already caught him.
dan friesen
They got in trouble, but not that much trouble.
Shouldn't they have killed him?
I think this person just leaked to Alex Jones that they're going to chip everybody at some evil, nefarious plan.
Seems like that would be a court-martial.
jordan holmes
A little bit.
dan friesen
Not a slap on the wrist.
Now, leaving all the sort of minor issues aside, my third major issue is the idea of Alex's dad here.
So, there are these people, right?
Whatever group that have underground bunkers where they're creating cyborgs.
Now, based on everything we know about Alex, these are the bad guys.
These are the deep state.
These are the globalists.
Because that's what the globalists do.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And they tried to recruit Alex's dad, and it's good that Alex's dad didn't go along with that.
jordan holmes
While at the same time, the only reason they would recruit Alex's dad is because he was a true patriot, something that the globalists themselves are apparently against.
dan friesen
You have latched onto the major problem.
jordan holmes
There's a big issue.
dan friesen
Yes.
I don't know why the globalists would specifically only hire anti-communist weirdos.
unidentified
For their dental implant cyborg project.
jordan holmes
It's ridiculous.
dan friesen
You're right.
You can sum it up exactly.
It's a 12-year-old telling a story.
jordan holmes
It's so stupid.
So, okay.
Now, I know you think that that doesn't make sense based on the thing that I previously said.
But let me explain why it totally makes sense.
Because they're trying to seduce the anti-communist dentists to the side of the pro-communist dentists.
dan friesen
Profound inconsistencies.
So Alex talks more about this, and we get this transition smoothly into animal-human hybrids.
alex jones
He's had callers, but it's been in the news, who are like a graduate student, and they go, hey, let me take you to this secret lab.
I think you can check this out for yourself.
jordan holmes
I've named it a secret lab, by the way.
alex jones
You take them to the lab, and they go, here's the animal hybrids of pigs and humans.
unidentified
Help me!
alex jones
And if you go along with that, this is only 5% human.
Next they show you this.
It's a pygmy pig that's half human.
And you're in a room with a pig that's got human eyes and it's even gerbling and talking.
It sounds like a monkey, but it's talking.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I've talked to people that have been in the rooms with pigs that look like people because they are.
Now that's in the news now.
unidentified
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
I needed this.
I needed this today.
I did need this.
dan friesen
It's this weird thing.
It's like, okay, so look, I understand this Maxwell news is tough for Alex to cover.
unidentified
I don't know what he's going to say about it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, what I hear there is Alex forgetting that he's supposed to be the one who's been to the secret labs, not his callers or people he's talked to.
He's the one who saw the fish with sad human eyes.
This isn't second-hand information.
This is supposed to be his own story.
jordan holmes
No, that was the fish that he saw.
He's talking about the pigs.
He didn't see the pygmy pig people.
dan friesen
I would argue that if Alex wants to make this point, his story about the fish people is more compelling than second-hand stories of pig people.
jordan holmes
You would think, but he forgot that he saw the fish people.
dan friesen
Yeah, I forgot that story.
jordan holmes
That's a complicated one.
dan friesen
We all have seen fish people and then forgotten about it.
jordan holmes
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
dan friesen
It just doesn't stick out in your memory.
jordan holmes
Are you talking about the cold, sad-eyed fish people?
Yes, those are the ones.
I was thinking of...
dan friesen
No, the empathic, very kind-eyed fish people.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
Not them.
dan friesen
Okay.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
This leads to Alex's discussion.
And this is why it is sort of tertiarily connected to Epstein stuff.
Because apparently Epstein is also trying...
He's created an army of...
jordan holmes
He's Chimerian people.
dan friesen
Well, there was that talk of how he wanted to seed the human race with his DNA.
jordan holmes
Oh, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And Alex has turned this into he's creating an army of clones.
jordan holmes
See, I thought that was just regular insane billionaire shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Aren't all billionaires insane like that?
dan friesen
Until proven otherwise, I find that...
That to be in the realm of, I want to be the next Genghis Khan.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally, totally.
dan friesen
Now, I'm open to revising that position if someone can show me evidence that it is, as Alex is suggesting, an army of clones.
alex jones
Right, could be.
dan friesen
I don't think that Alex...
jordan holmes
Are they going to execute Order 66?
dan friesen
I don't know.
But Alex doesn't make the case very well.
alex jones
They were going to implant her artificially.
dan friesen
He's talking about one of Epstein's victims.
jordan holmes
Right.
alex jones
They told her this.
With a very special baby.
Now, who knows what it's going to be?
A Bill Gates clone, whatever.
Because you know that's what rich guys have.
And their clones are out walking around and don't even know who they are.
Because you don't just create a clone and have it in some freezer.
It goes bad.
You've got to be walking around, growing up in a family.
So when you need the organs, you get them and kill them and take the organs.
They think they're going to be able to put their old brain in a new body.
I mean, that's what all this is.
And so he was running at Zorro Ranch with hundreds of women, artificial insemination projects.
Now, see, that's the rest of the story.
What are they doing in there?
The word is all sorts of experiments, cloning, you name it.
That's why you see the headline of the British government wants to pay for artificial wombs to be put in trans...
Men, so they can be women.
And they're just getting you used to, oh yeah, taxpayers.
We pay for an artificial womb so some crazy dude can grow a baby in them.
That's just getting you used to all of this.
And then now you've got all these humanoids that are already walking around.
And they're not going to have rights.
But they've all been programmed genetically.
Operate the way the globalists do.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
What does any of that mean?
jordan holmes
Alright, so is our big issue clones voting?
Is that what the problem here is?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I honestly don't know.
I don't know, and I don't think that listening to this episode in its entirety will give you any kind of insight.
jordan holmes
Clones rights!
Clones rights!
dan friesen
There are a thousand different things that he seems to be talking about.
And I don't know.
jordan holmes
I got nothing.
I got no handle on what he's trying to say.
dan friesen
No.
I would argue that if someone was a clone of Bill Gates, they were a human.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Does Alex not think that people who are like...
jordan holmes
You can't have a soul if you're cloned.
That's Alex's hard and fast rule, right?
It has to be.
dan friesen
What do you think he thinks about artificial insemination?
jordan holmes
Ooh.
I don't know.
I suppose that's when birth happens?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Yeah, this is confusing.
And a lot of this stuff I was listening to and I'm like, I don't even care.
I'm just like, okay.
Alright, man.
Keep on going.
Keep on keeping on.
I got nothing.
I'm just going to play clips of you rambling about cyborgs.
jordan holmes
It's been a slog to get through all of reality right now, Dan.
A good old Alex Jones screaming about chimeras.
That's our bread and butter.
That's what we were made for.
dan friesen
And I do think that in some ways this episode is very restorative.
And it will be even more so once we get to the evening.
So this just comes down to good and evil.
There's one side good, one side that's evil.
And Alex makes a reference that makes me think...
jordan holmes
He doesn't know which side is which.
dan friesen
Maybe he does.
alex jones
It's just good and evil, folks.
And I'm not a guy that likes things like Order 66, if you want to use that cheesy analogy.
But when you're already under globalist attack and they're taking over and they're overthrowing everything and they're evil, you don't have political solutions to that.
dan friesen
First of all, he thinks that Order 66 is cheesy, but he's the one who keeps referencing it.
jordan holmes
No, that's unfair.
That's gaslighting.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
That's gaslighting.
dan friesen
And then, like, yeah, there's good guys and bad guys, and I'm encouraging a plan from science fiction that was explicitly done by the baddest team.
jordan holmes
Listen, I don't like the bad guy's plan, but you're not going to defeat the Jedi any other way.
dan friesen
And the Jedi are traitors.
jordan holmes
And the Jedi are...
Obviously, traitors!
Did you see them?
They're trying to overthrow the Republic by restoring the Senate.
That's a terrible idea.
unidentified
Oh, Alex, you're so silly.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So, Alex is, like, saying, you know, there's no political solution.
jordan holmes
I don't like the Vogons, but you gotta build that bypass.
Folks, you just gotta build it.
dan friesen
You know, you gotta just kill.
alex jones
Now, since they're going hot...
The right move by individuals in the establishment who aren't perfect but aren't Satanists or pedophiles, and understand how dangerous all this is, is to take these people out as quickly and as cleanly and as judiciously as possible.
And that's just a real statement there, okay?
I mean, the globalists need to be wiped out.
We just can't play games with him anymore.
It's too dangerous.
dan friesen
That music came in fast.
jordan holmes
That was a signal.
I'm going to go with that was a signal.
Alright, what happened to our giant novelty cane?
Can we pull him off?
dan friesen
No?
jordan holmes
Play the music.
dan friesen
That is just in here to re-demonstrate and re-stress.
He's straight up just calling for murder on pretty much every show now.
jordan holmes
Even when we're having fun, he's still trying to get people killed.
dan friesen
There's no doubt about it.
And he wants people to be afraid of just about everything.
There's a long-standing sort of narrative on Alex's show that I haven't paid a whole lot of attention to, but it is something that he touches on from time to time.
It's never been a varsity narrative, and it's still not.
And that is that Soros and his people are putting in attorneys and defense attorneys and prosecutors in small places, like all around the country, in order to jam up the patriots or whatever.
This has been something that he's been preoccupied with because of, I think, down-ballot funding and maybe some focus by organizations on local elections and things like that.
I think Alex resents that a little bit.
He talks about that a little bit.
A little gross.
alex jones
It just never ends.
I'm sorry, I said 500.
That was an old number.
It's over 1,000 district attorneys.
And county attorneys are now been put into office by George Soros, and they will literally let communists under racial cover or whatever come kill you at your house, and they no-bill it.
You know what?
They're just building an army to take over and kill everybody.
That's why Pelosi said MS-13 is all God's children.
Because they're using them as a hit team.
I mean, you cannot make up the criminal nature of this.
Folks, it's a full criminal attack.
The whole group's criminal.
My God, they're run by pedophiles and devil worshipers.
What are you expecting?
They're gone.
They're gone.
You can't believe anything they say.
They're totally dangerous.
They're totally evil.
And they've got giant masses of zombie lazy asses that believe they're about to rule.
The average liberal knows it's all a lie.
They've been promised power!
I'm going to break, coming back with your calls.
Fourth of July, Super Sale is in the heart of it right now.
Storewide free shipping.
dan friesen
Oh my god, free shipping.
jordan holmes
Oh man, free shipping?
unidentified
Woo!
jordan holmes
For the first time this year, I bet.
dan friesen
I think just about every one of his sales has involved free shipping.
jordan holmes
If you have paid for shipping from the Infowars store, you're insane.
dan friesen
Yeah, you are a lunatic.
You've been taken for a ride.
Yeah, so that's a little stupid.
jordan holmes
Are we just rhyming now?
Zombie asses, lazy asses for the masses?
What are we doing here?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Come on, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I think he's saying that Soros put in these prosecutors and attorneys, defense attorneys, in order for black communists to come to your house and kill you, and then they don't charge it as a murder.
That's what he's trying to make his audience scared of there, which is pretty...
Pretty weird.
jordan holmes
Communists under racial cover.
dan friesen
Right, that's what he's saying.
jordan holmes
Right, so that means that they're...
unidentified
Hmm.
jordan holmes
Okay.
That's how they go undercover, by being black.
The safest you can be.
dan friesen
I think he means as a political front.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It's all very dumb.
So, most of this episode, I gotta be honest, it's mostly rambling, meandering evangelism.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It is...
Largely about, like, you gotta go with God, man.
And I'm gonna play this next clip that isn't really, like, it's not fully substantive.
There's not a lot to discuss about it, but it was what I really felt captured the feeling that I would describe as meaninglessness of this episode.
alex jones
But before you can fly, you gotta learn how to crawl, learn how to walk, learn how to run, and learn how to trust God and jump off that cliff.
Because the wings don't go out till you reach out to God.
That's why you've got to have the faith.
I don't mean literally jump off a cliff.
It's an allegory.
dan friesen
Good save.
alex jones
The globalists want you to jump off a cliff and give up your humanity and plug into a chip and give up your body.
Do you believe that?
But you already know the spirit.
God built you, made the planet, did it all.
You know.
And if you reach out metaphysically to God and knock on the door, the door will open.
Or vice versa.
Crisis at the door.
Knocking, knocking, knocking.
But if they can get you to abuse a child, Worship Satan.
And to say, I know God's real and I choose the devil, then that's the ultimate sin.
God is removed and you are turned over to these people.
And then you become, I guess, Lane Maxwell, a Bill Clinton, a Jeffrey Epstein.
A sniveling, evil, rat-like person that's all into their...
Personal baubles and power and control, and as soon as the devil's done with you, you're just thrown into a junk pile like a broken toy.
You really want to be a pawn and then lose your birthright to the universe?
Not me.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I want to go up every level.
jordan holmes
So purely selfish, then?
alex jones
Until I'm finally there.
Fathomable consciousness.
jordan holmes
So you just want to reward it.
alex jones
But you gotta crawl through the muck first before you face God.
dan friesen
This is all just like...
This show is nothing other than just a guy giving a speech at a bully pulpit or whatever.
It is so little in terms of analysis, news.
Hard-hitting anything.
It's just a guy ranting about the devil.
jordan holmes
It sounds a little bit like a writer's room for people who are trying to make inspirational slogan signs.
You know, like, oh, the wings don't come out until you reach for God.
Metaphorically.
Don't jump off the cliff.
dan friesen
A lot of caveats.
Because they know they're selling them to people who might jump off a cliff.
jordan holmes
Hang in their kitty sign, but with a bunch of footnotes on it.
dan friesen
Sure.
So Alex at this point goes to calls because I think he just realizes, like, I'm not...
jordan holmes
I got nothing.
dan friesen
I don't know what's going on.
jordan holmes
No details.
dan friesen
Whatever.
jordan holmes
No secrets.
dan friesen
So he goes to this first caller who suggests that Ghislaine Maxwell is going to get COVID in prison.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex says, yeah, good call.
jordan holmes
Great.
unidentified
I don't think she's going to make it that long.
Something's going to happen to her, and she's going to go out just like Jeffrey is.
alex jones
But don't worry, they'll tell us it's a suicide, right?
unidentified
Well...
You know, she'll end up getting COVID.
Something's going to happen.
She's going to be put on a ventilator, and then she's going to slip away.
alex jones
Oh, she'll get COVID, and then they'll put a tube down her throat and blow her lungs out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Well, phase two is on its way, and everybody's got to get locked back in, and she's going to be all in prison or whatever, and she's going to come down with it, and that'll be the end of her.
alex jones
That's a good prediction.
Yeah, you're going to have an idea.
dan friesen
You're giving the globalists an idea of what to do.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
If I'm the globalist...
There's a virus already going around, guys!
unidentified
Perfect.
jordan holmes
Like the globalists just thought up this idea.
dan friesen
As if this wasn't already a meme the second she got arrested.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no shit.
As if some genius caller for InfoWars...
dan friesen
Come on now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, come on.
dan friesen
So Alex gets another caller, and this guy's great.
He won't stop plugging Alex's product.
But he has one particular question about a product that's no longer for sale.
unidentified
But I'd also like...
You know, here's the deal.
alex jones
I have to file lawsuits against the attorney general of New York if I'm going to do that.
She wrongfully and fraudulently says that I said it was a cure for COVID-19.
Never said any such thing.
And then she called for me to be criminally arrested and all this stuff.
And then we never said that.
And then she kept saying he won't quit saying he has a cure.
And I said, we never said that.
And so she won't quit committing the crime in my name of saying we have a cure, which we don't have.
I have stopped only because she's engaged in such criminal activity.
Sure.
unidentified
You understand?
jordan holmes
Her fault.
alex jones
Retriloquist dummies and says that I'm saying we've got a cure for COVID-19.
But it's Letitia James saying it, not me.
Ooh.
unidentified
So I've got to file suit on her before I do it.
alex jones
I'm going to come back to you.
Listen, I would have already filed suit on her, but with the country burning and all the global stuff.
Sure.
unidentified
At the end of the day, you know, people love the toothpaste.
alex jones
It was a best-selling item.
But, you know, we're in a war right now, so I haven't been front and center about it, but there's your answer.
And again, that's the same with Mr. James that ordered them to send COVID patients to nursing homes to kill people.
unidentified
She's a stone-cold murderer.
dan friesen
I certainly hope she doesn't sue you for that.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
Now.
Here's where we get into the problem with doubling down on making your imagined enemy the worst.
dan friesen
Who happens to be a state attorney general.
jordan holmes
Now, I don't know about litigious people.
Right.
dan friesen
I would suggest that if I were her, I would sue him for fun.
jordan holmes
Oh, that'd be great.
dan friesen
For saying I'm a stone-cold murderer.
Yeah.
Yeah, it seems like that's actionable.
jordan holmes
I think so.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Has she murdered anybody?
dan friesen
Not that I know of, and it's a burden to prove it's on Alex.
He's the one making the accusation.
jordan holmes
And that's pretty malicious if you were...
dan friesen
Especially considering that it's in the context of how much he hates her because she said that he was fraudulently marketing his toothpaste.
It seems like it's a very clear, open-and-shut case of him lashing out at somebody because of...
Them saying, hey, you're doing something wrong.
jordan holmes
Okay, so I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, let me build a real quick case for you.
All right.
This guy, who has a known history of threatening people, on the show where he threatens or even encourages people to kill all of his enemies, on his show said that this person is a murderer.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Qualifying her for the...
I'm pretty sure this one's an opening show.
dan friesen
Miss James, if you're listening, please feel free to take action on that.
jordan holmes
It's a really short clip, too.
We can just email it to you.
It's not hard.
dan friesen
So Alex has a guest now.
Oh, also, by the way, I don't believe that story at all about his toothpaste.
jordan holmes
Good God, no.
dan friesen
What I'm guessing is that his lawyers were like, you cannot stop yourself from selling this toothpaste in a way that you're going to get in trouble.
We have to take it off the store.
Something along those lines.
Oh yeah, I'll start selling it again once I sue the New York Attorney General.
unidentified
All you gotta do.
dan friesen
Bullshit.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex has a guest, and it's this guy named Bishop Larry Gators.
Gators, excuse me.
And I'm not going to talk too much about this guy, because I...
I think that I don't feel good about him.
But there are a couple things that are worth pointing out, and here's the first one.
bishop larry gaiters
Now, the three founders, Brother Alex, of Black Lives Matter, they are witches.
Listen, I have no sympathy for the left.
I am a contract killer for the Lord Jesus Christ.
My responsibility is to cut the hair off of not just Antifa.
That is the military arm of Black Lives Matter, but Black Lives Matter is the propaganda arm of Antifa.
dan friesen
So I'm, like, having flashbacks.
Because, Jordan, here we are in the lead-up to an election, and Alex is talking to someone named Larry about women he doesn't like being witches.
jordan holmes
It's not hard to find.
You throw a stone at a Larry, and you're going to find somebody who hates witches.
dan friesen
Reality is on reruns.
It repeats.
Wow.
Writers are getting very uncreative.
Witches.
So this guy's whole big deal is that there's like, you know that cult from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom?
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
They run the world.
unidentified
Kalima!
dan friesen
The thuggy.
Kalima!
And there's some sort of a voodoo cult involved.
Sure.
It's...
Nonsensical.
And the way in which things are connected to each other, they're so tangential and all over the place, that I worry about this guy's thinking pattern.
To the point where I don't really even want to make fun of or mock this, because I see it as more a sign of unwellness than a lot of Alex's other guests.
And I figured this out who this guy is.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
He is a bishop of some sort.
I don't know a lot about his backstory, but he's somebody who's been a guest on Sam Tripoli's podcast, the Tinfoil Hat podcast.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I watched a couple clips of it, and he's just rambling about nonsense, and Sam Tripoli is such a fucking idiot that his mind's blown.
Sure.
Sam Tripoli is one of the only people who will have Alex still on his podcast.
And so obviously this is some sort of a...
jordan holmes
Nice little cross.
dan friesen
Exactly.
That's how this connection got made.
And so now Alex is having him on.
And it's atrocious.
jordan holmes
Bonkers.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But there's a couple times when he talks about words.
And I think that these are fun.
You know, like, hey, I don't want to sit down and talk about, like...
Okay, the way his brain has jumped from A to L to B to Q, like all over the place.
But, I mean, if he wants to talk about words, I'll have a little fun with that.
Here's the first one.
bishop larry gaiters
Because when you look at the term negro, the term negro comes from the Greek word necro, which means...
topsy of flesh or having sex with a dead body.
I kid you not.
This is where we get the term necrophilio or necrophiliac.
dan friesen
That's not even close to true.
jordan holmes
No, I'm gonna have to say that this is...
I mean, just impeccable.
dan friesen
That word, you know, it comes from negro.
You know, it means black in Spanish and Portuguese.
jordan holmes
Ah, you would think that.
dan friesen
It's also, you know, it's very close.
You know, a lot of other really close terms in related languages.
You have negru in Romanian, nero in Italian, and negre in Catalan.
The reason for this is these are all Romance languages, and they're all terms that are derived from the Latin root word for black, which is negrum.
The necro does come from ancient Greek, but there's no letter C in ancient Greek.
It's spelled with a K or kappa in its non-transliterated form.
Also, necros means dead body, not to have sex with a dead body.
The common word for black in Greek was melos.
These are very different rooted words from two different linguistic trees.
This dude is legitimately just making shit up and asserting this falsehood with an amazing amount of confidence.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you just change some letters and words and then they're the same word.
dan friesen
He does a lot of this.
This happens a lot.
bishop larry gaiters
So the term media comes from the Hebrew term medium, which means witch.
So the crack network, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, they're all witches and warlocks.
dan friesen
This should come as no surprise, but the word media does not come from the Hebrew word for witches.
The Hebrew word for witches is mechashifa, and that word has nothing to do with the root for the word we now understand as media.
That comes from the Latin root medius.
The confusion here, and what Gators is just making stuff up about, is that media comes from the Latin root, the same word as medium, which one of the meanings in English is a spiritualist, or one who speaks with ghosts.
That definition didn't come around until 1853 at least, and it really doesn't have anything to do with the original root of the word.
jordan holmes
See, Dan, you're just not getting in on the fun of it.
Like, look, look, look.
I can just do a notebook.
Notebook.
The word notebook comes from notes.
That, if you get rid of the E, is knots.
If you add a K, that's knots.
That can be something that you tie up.
And, well, that's also a rate of speed for traveling on a boat.
That's two different meanings.
So if words have multiple meanings, that means that notebook is the devil.
Thank you very much.
Jesus.
dan friesen
I understand the fun that association games can have in terms of improv or, let's say, freestyle rapping.
jordan holmes
Having fun.
dan friesen
Right.
This is different than that, though.
This is somebody who's trying to use False cognates and false root word tracing in order to depict a reality that doesn't actually exist.
And that, to me, is troubling.
jordan holmes
In order to communicate, words have to have an agreed-upon meaning.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And if you just change the meaning of words, then you are not...
I can't communicate with you.
dan friesen
Well, and also it's indicative of a complete lack of any kind of work.
Because if you think that the word negro comes from necro in Greek, then that means you never looked into it at all.
jordan holmes
Why would you?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You already know the answer.
dan friesen
It means you just assumed because there's a couple letters different...
jordan holmes
They sound similar.
And those are both old words.
Right.
They're from before me.
dan friesen
Right.
So, yeah.
Anyway, this is the last clip we're going to listen to of this dude.
And I only really keep this in because it indicates that Alex basically isn't listening to him and is just like, this is a good sandwich.
He doesn't actually, there's no obvious eating, but he's probably eating it.
bishop larry gaiters
But you and I are witnessing a war between the followers of the first constitution of true Americans like you and I, going back to 1776, ratified in 1781.
versus the global baltham luciferian deep state of the second constitution of 1871 which came about by pressure not only by and through the Vatican through Pope Pius IX but also through the financial backing of the Robchard dynasty in eastern, central and western.
alex jones
Well, you've really done your research because I'm not sure if somebody's following one researcher or another.
I'm seeing a ton of research from thousands of top people with your research.
So you've definitely, like you said, done your research.
The knowledge is so frightening.
When you actually have it, it's like spacewalking.
It's like you just can't breathe when you see how real it is and how ridiculous it is that people like puppets are playing along with this.
dan friesen
That second constitution thing is just that sovereign citizenship we've talked about a bit.
Like the establishment of D.C., Washington, D.C. Yeah, I mean, like, this is ridiculous.
I feel like Alex, if he were a sincere actor, has a responsibility to listen to this guy give these...
False and ridiculous explanations for words and be like, I'm not talking to somebody who I should really...
Just because he hates Black Lives Matter and Antifa and all that stuff, great.
unidentified
I'm glad that you agree with me on stuff.
jordan holmes
I will do anything to get a black person on my show who doesn't like Black Lives Matter.
I will do anything.
I will make any sacrifice.
dan friesen
It's rough to me that he is unable or unwilling to exercise any kind of control mechanism over, like, this is somebody who is clearly expressing something that isn't grounded.
But whatever.
And it has nothing to do with his support or dissupport of things that I support.
It's just that you listen to him and you're like, I can't listen to this.
So the show gets to an end and I felt empty.
jordan holmes
He got it.
No, he explained all the Ghislaine Maxwell stuff, right?
dan friesen
I don't think he did.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I've been listening to this show so far and I feel completely sad.
dan friesen
I don't think he did and I don't think he did a bunch of other stuff.
Like, I don't think he did anything.
I came to the end of it, and I was like, I fully expected this to be a deeply traumatic experience, listening to this episode where he just screams about horrifying subject matter that I don't want to listen to him talk about.
And I got to the end, and I'm like, that was weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a lot of cyborg talk, a lot of nonsense, a lot of stuff that I didn't even bother taking notes on.
unidentified
I was just like, whatever.
dan friesen
And then he talks to this linguist.
You head to the episode.
jordan holmes
That's a damn with faint praise right there.
dan friesen
So I felt like, that can't be it.
I can't wait to see what he does on Friday.
So I turned on Friday's episode, and it's a repeat.
It's a show from the end of June.
And I'm like, wait a second.
Alex did a repeat the next day.
He was supposed to be out of studio Thursday.
So I guess he just was like, alright, I'll just not come in on Friday.
Or whatever, I'll come in on Thursday.
So I was like, what the fuck is going on?
And I had gone to band.video, because on this episode, on July 2nd, there was something that appeared to be cut out that Alex had said, and I thought it was suspicious.
So I went and I found the original version of it, and it's one of his callers said shit, and they had to bleep it.
So it wasn't anything too suspicious.
jordan holmes
You could cut out the part where you called the district attorney a murderer.
You could have just cut it out.
dan friesen
Anything.
jordan holmes
Shit gets cut, but...
Okay.
dan friesen
Hold on to that thought of not posting things.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So when I went and I looked at this, I saw that there were two special reports that were posted that looked interesting.
The first was, 4th of July, there's a new civil war.
And I listened to that, and it was worthless.
It was a seven-minute video where Alex was just getting really defensive about how he keeps saying there's a civil war coming.
Anyway, not important.
However, there was a two-hour special from the night of July 2nd.
So he did his show from 11 to 3. Paul Joseph Watson took over the fourth hour.
Then he did whatever he does.
Seven o 'clock gets back on air.
And I thought, yeah, that makes sense.
unidentified
He didn't do his job.
dan friesen
It's one of the few times that I saw he went back on air for two hours.
jordan holmes
I'm like, of course he did.
alex jones
You better have.
dan friesen
You dick.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So I was like, yeah, all right.
That's as good as his Friday episode.
jordan holmes
So let's check in and see.
Let's see what happened.
dan friesen
I turned it on, and immediately I was worried.
alex jones
You know, whenever I get attacked by the enemy, tears start flowing out my eyes.
It's not because the enemy is attacking.
When the enemy comes in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord raises up a center against it.
The Holy Spirit gets so strong.
unidentified
The stars are bright at night.
alex jones
So are our souls.
Yes.
So it's a great time to be alive right now.
Holy shit.
dan friesen
What the fuck is going on?
I'm so scared.
unidentified
Stars.
Yep, they're bright at night and so are our souls.
It's a great time to be alive.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
You know what?
It's been a long time, really, since I've thought about a workplace where you're just fine with your boss coming in drunk and doing a show.
dan friesen
Well, I don't know how drunk he is.
He definitely seems drunk.
I will say that for sure.
jordan holmes
Stars.
dan friesen
So, here's the things that I want to bring into sharp focus.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
It's not three in the morning.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
He chose to do this.
jordan holmes
Could have just not.
dan friesen
That's 30 seconds into the show.
He starts doing it.
He has a wavering in his voice that he sounds like he's going to cry.
jordan holmes
He does sound like he's going to cry.
dan friesen
He's rambling about nothing.
jordan holmes
Stars.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
unidentified
I just heard that like, this is going to be a disaster.
jordan holmes
Are you sure this isn't just another cut of the song?
dan friesen
No, it is not.
jordan holmes
Are you sure it's not pre-recorded?
dan friesen
It is not.
So, Alex gets to, I mean, it's just, so much of this is just scattershot nonsense.
And like I said, I thought this was going to be, I needed to do my job, so I came in because there's so much news to cover.
Instead, he's just talking about souls and shit.
Like, this makes no sense.
alex jones
You can sell out to the New World Order, your children will be dead.
They might live another year, another ten years.
Their souls are gone.
There's no making a deal with Satan.
dan friesen
So the reason I wanted to cut that clip is because it seems like in Alex's cosmology, if you do something bad, your kids' souls will be affected.
unidentified
That's how it goes.
dan friesen
Which I don't like.
jordan holmes
Now, again, this is a great religion filled with a god that is awesome.
dan friesen
Isn't that kind of against the individualism that Alex thinks America is based on?
The idea that you aren't, like, the...
Whatever your past, your ancestors.
jordan holmes
No, the only way to control people's behaviors is by constantly and eternally threatening their kids' souls.
dan friesen
I mean, I just think that's weird.
Yeah, it's a little bit odd.
He does get to talking about Ghislaine Maxwell, and good for him, I guess.
alex jones
Jeffrey Epstein's triple agent.
MI6 Mossad CIA.
Sex operative.
He's in a federal jail.
unidentified
And the enemy, he's now feeling the fire of truth.
alex jones
That's a good thing.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
But we should expect the enemy's counterstrike.
And we should accept it like Christ being beaten with cat or die tails.
Because there is no victory without sunrise.
There is no defeat of Satan without payment to be made.
And I feel guilty in moments like this while my family is being persecuted for what I've done that I am in ecstasy next to Christ.
If anything, I am guilty that I am in such a high tower of pleasure.
During this moment.
jordan holmes
No, I understand, sir, but this is a Macy's.
Would you like a fragrance?
alex jones
They're all going to drown in lakes of blood.
jordan holmes
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
dan friesen
This is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Do you know what I hear happening?
Because I think you're right.
I do think that the spirit behind this broadcast is...
I really fucked up with that Gay Lane Maxwell stuff on my main show.
I gotta make this up.
But that started from the first glass of whiskey.
He gets off the show.
He's like, ah, that wasn't bad.
Takes a sip and he's like, you know, I really didn't do that good of a job.
Takes another glass.
Takes another glass.
I'm getting back on the air.
You know, it's time for me to do my job.
I'm gonna step up.
I'm gonna really takes another glass.
Takes another glass.
dan friesen
Stars!
I think that it's almost impossible to know what goes on behind the scenes, but that seems about right.
If we were to learn that that's what happened, I would not be surprised at all.
And I know that I'm not saying that I thought that that was the motivation for him doing this second episode because I know that he says that that was.
Because he does.
In this next book, he does confirm that that's why, but that is exactly what I thought when I saw the night show.
I thought, like, oh, okay, yeah, he's got to make good.
And then, right here, he does say exactly that.
alex jones
You know, I didn't get to the news I wanted to cover today in the four-hour radio show, so I thought, hey, the crew's great.
They'll come in at night.
I'm going to cover all this big news.
Just hundreds of articles.
Mainstream news, like, hey, COVID's a fraud.
Hey, it's all live.
What is even the point of that?
There are people that want to believe the lie, or there are people that want to believe the truth.
You should talk about that.
dan friesen
You should talk about that.
Yeah, Alex.
So, he decided he was going to do this show because he didn't do a good enough job on his original show, but then he...
Why?
unidentified
Why?
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So we're pretty early in this special report, and he's already having an existential crisis about why he's doing it and whether it's worth doing to begin with.
And some people just believe bullshit.
jordan holmes
Alright, I gotta drag the crew in.
I gotta drag the crew in.
I'm gonna do it!
Get on in there, guys!
Alright, we're gonna start this show.
Stars.
dan friesen
So now Alex gets down to the news.
To his credit.
I'm lying.
He doesn't.
alex jones
Imagine being told in court.
unidentified
Hypothetically.
alex jones
I'm taking your children away from you because you demonstrated in Austin, Texas against the mask and the COVID-19 lockdown when there wasn't even a law.
And I didn't have a law to do it, but because I'm a judge, I'm going to take your children from you because you protested.
I'm going to take your birthright.
I'm going to take everything you've got.
Your whole future.
And you know, that doesn't scare me because that's what your whole new world order is, is to take my future.
What, you didn't think I knew you wanted my children?
I already committed that they were burned to fight you.
You think I'll give up?
Because you're going to attack my children?
jordan holmes
Maybe something for your wife, sir?
alex jones
The whole point is, you want to rape and kill children?
jordan holmes
Coco Chanel?
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
It just seems it never ends.
alex jones
Hell, they'll threaten to kill me or other people.
Like, we'll kill you!
You'll kill me!
You'll kill my soul if I join you.
You don't think I know who you are?
dan friesen
This is a mess.
Wow.
jordan holmes
So I take it we've been speaking to a judge.
dan friesen
I think Alex might be dealing with more custody issues.
Hypothetically.
jordan holmes
Complete hypothetical situation.
dan friesen
Just deal with your goddamn ex-wife, Alex.
Stop bringing this to the air, man.
This isn't the globalists.
This is your ex-wife having a problem with your anti-mask protests because she's worried for the...
The safety and the well-being of her children.
jordan holmes
Stop it.
dan friesen
Stop it, Alex.
This is disgraceful.
jordan holmes
Honey, we were going to get Chinese food tonight.
We were going to sit in.
We were going to watch this movie.
We've been looking forward to it.
Well, my boss got drunk and the judge got mad at him for going to an illegal rally because he's an evil asshole.
So I'm going to hold a boom mic for the next two hours.
dan friesen
This is embarrassing.
jordan holmes
That sucks.
dan friesen
This is a real bad look.
For your champion hero of anti-globalist, crusading, tip of the spear, this is a bad look.
You're in the middle of what's supposed to be making up for not doing your job, and you appear to be drunk, crying, and maniacally laughing about how your kids are already dead to you.
unidentified
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
That's a very normal and comforting laugh, I believe.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
So anyway, the world's going to burn.
jordan holmes
How's he doing?
dan friesen
He's not doing good.
alex jones
I will warn all of you watching and all of you listening.
We have committed crimes against God.
We have committed crimes against the children.
We are going to be judged.
This planet is going to be burned to a crisp.
You better get right with God now.
And you better start fearing the engineer that built the universe instead of bowing down to these midget demons.
You have been warned.
I don't sacrifice my children for the fight against the New World War.
Because those children didn't belong to me to begin with.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Oh, my God.
Not a lot of room for free will there.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
There's a little portion of this that I think is...
Trying to cover some headlines.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And it doesn't go...
jordan holmes
This is a beyond parody situation.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
This is exactly what you would do if you were parodying this.
This is too on the nose.
dan friesen
It's pretty wild.
So Alex gets to a headline here.
I mean, here, a little bit of meat, maybe.
alex jones
Here's the Atlantic.
That's the CIA.
How could the CDC make that mistake?
Count everybody with a...
An antibody test, that means you've already gotten over it, and people that don't have it as a test.
Now, why would they put that out?
Because they're so dumb, they're covering their ass right there.
dan friesen
First things first, this Atlantic article is from May 21st, so it's not exactly breaking news.
The article is about how there were test results included in the CDC's numbers that came from both viral and antibody tests, which most experts agreed was confusing.
Viral tests try to determine current infection, whereas antibody tests are aimed at past infection.
This error was identified, and as of early May, it was resolved, with CDC numbers reflecting only viral test results.
A big part of the issue is that different states reported their numbers differently, and many of the states were reporting negative test results from viral and antibody tests as a single figure.
The big issue here, though, is that this mistake would only make the outbreak look far less severe than it would otherwise.
The reason is that antibody tests are meant to be administered to the general public, as opposed to viral tests which are meant to be given to people you suspect of being sick.
Because of their differing applications, you have a built-in assumption that the rate of positive results in an antibody test will be lower than for viral tests.
A positive result for an antibody test isn't going to increase the number of active cases.
It'll just be a recovered case.
So that doesn't affect that metric.
But the bulk of negative antibody tests will give a tendency to drive down the positive result rate.
To quote the end of this Atlantic article, There's no way to ascertain how much of the recent increase in testing is from antibody tests until the most populous states in the country, among them Texas, Georgia, and Pennsylvania, show their residents everything in the data.
This is an interesting story, and it isn't nothing.
But understood in its proper context, and not just read as a completely unexplored headline, this story does not support the argument that COVID-19 is a fraud or the number Well, and not just that, but it's just pointing out another massive failing in terms of having a coordinated federal response.
True.
jordan holmes
Every single state doing things differently is only fucking everything up.
So having a coordinated federal response with a strong leadership that will be able to kind of fucking streamline this whole process is going to go a long way towards mitigating the whole issue, and we've done nothing but exacerbate it.
dan friesen
It would have been nice.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and we're still feeling the effects of how stupid this is.
God, I hate people.
dan friesen
Alex has that one headline that he doesn't explore at all, doesn't really do anything other than say it.
And then he has another headline.
alex jones
Oh, but don't worry.
New study says Black Lives Matter protests slowed the spread.
They probably actually did by creating antibodies.
dan friesen
So Alex is talking about a study that was carried out by a research team.
It was co-authored by a professor from the University of Colorado, Denver, named Andrew Friedson.
The basic gist of the paper is an examination of the net result of Black Lives Matter protests on the cities they took place in, particularly relating to social distancing behavior.
From the study, "While the protests themselves were large gatherings that do not match well with social distancing guidelines, the protesting population is not the only one that may have a behavioral response.
For example, other individuals who do not wish to participate in the protests, perhaps due to fear of violence from police clashes or general unrest, may have chosen to avoid public spaces while protests were underway.
This could have an offsetting effect, increasing social distancing behavior in other parts of the population." Their result, they found, was, quote, Using anonymous cell phone tracking data from SafeGraph, Inc., as well as data on the local prevalence of COVID-19 from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, we demonstrate that cities which had protests saw an increase in social distancing behavior for the overall general population relative to cities that did not.
In addition, we find no evidence that net COVID-19 case growth differentially rose following the onset of Black Lives Matter protests and even modest evidence of small, longer-run case growth decline.
The argument this paper is making is one that Alex doesn't understand, he hasn't read, and he has no response to.
He's an incompetent, probably drunk baby, angrily reading headlines he doesn't know anything about, trying to get his audience to behave in ways that endanger their health.
jordan holmes
What you see there is so...
All of these guys, all of these bullshit propagandists want to create a cause and effect as its own kind of simple, streamlined way of doing things.
Somebody does this, and that means this happened.
What they're demonstrating is that it is an impossibly large system with an infinite number of variables.
So you saying, oh, well, because this happened, this happened, you don't understand.
You couldn't even imagine why they would do like, oh, well, what if there's other behaviors that change around this behavior, changing the overall situation?
A massive system as opposed to being an action by a person.
dan friesen
Right, right.
And I think that the analysis of it would probably look a lot different if the protests were done in a way that was rejecting of public health recommendations.
As opposed to embracing them.
Yeah, if everybody was going out without masks and people weren't doing their best to keep distant from each other as much as possible, then you might have ended up seeing these things become super-spreading events.
That is possible.
And under those circumstances, I imagine that this analysis by these researchers would look quite different.
But because they appear to, you know, it appears that the data, and granted, I mean, this paper hasn't been peer-reviewed yet, so there's even some questions about, like, exactly how definitively we should treat this.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I'm just talking about, like, Alex doesn't even understand what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Not even close.
jordan holmes
Not even a little bit.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's sad.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, that's about what we've got in terms of, like...
jordan holmes
Substance.
dan friesen
That's a good way to put it.
unidentified
Stars.
dan friesen
That's the word I was going to go for.
jordan holmes
Those are our stars here.
dan friesen
Now we're back to America is special.
alex jones
Okay.
America.
There's something about it that scares them.
Because, yeah, most of the evil's here.
Because the power is here.
Because the real Christ energy seeds were put here.
All the evil.
jordan holmes
By who?
alex jones
Buzzards.
jordan holmes
When?
unidentified
And vampire bats.
alex jones
And carrion crows.
dan friesen
And hippogriffs.
alex jones
Descended upon it.
jordan holmes
J.K. Rowling's going to sue you for that.
alex jones
But because there was something special there.
And what was it?
It's not some virtue signal.
unidentified
It's not some, oh, we care about the black people thing.
alex jones
It was, we believe in humans.
No matter what color they are, if they've got strength, we want to work with them, and we want to unify around human power that God gave us.
Of course we didn't realize that when we first got the idea.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
It's like when you first have the idea to build a house.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Or to marry a woman and have children and build a farm.
It takes time.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
And we did it.
dan friesen
It takes time.
What?
Maybe you start up by enslaving a certain group of people.
jordan holmes
It's all about humans.
If you have power, we want you to work for us for free.
dan friesen
And then as you build that house, maybe you pass a Chinese Exclusion Act.
alex jones
Well, sure.
dan friesen
And then you build the house and you intern the Japanese.
jordan holmes
Well, there's that.
We didn't know it was bad at first, or the third time, or the seventh time, or the...
dan friesen
Except for all those people back then who were saying slavery was really bad.
jordan holmes
Well, we didn't know you had to listen to them when they spoke.
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
Whatever.
jordan holmes
My God.
dan friesen
Such a fun way to look at history.
jordan holmes
These dudes.
dan friesen
Inaccurately.
It's much more fun.
jordan holmes
I just don't want to think for a second that maybe slavery was bad.
What is wrong with these people?
dan friesen
So, look, dude.
This is very...
It's all religious.
This is all just basically religious.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
All roads lead back to, like, you need Jesus.
Sure.
Turns out...
jordan holmes
Gotta spread the wings to reach for Jesus to get him to open those wings up.
dan friesen
Atheists.
jordan holmes
What about them?
dan friesen
They think they're smart.
But, it turns out, they only think they're smart because Satanists tricked them.
alex jones
You can be an atheist all day long.
They teach you, oh, that's how you're really smart.
You know, oh, you don't believe in God.
Oh, you think man's an animal.
Oh, you're so smart.
Because they don't want you to have a defense.
Because behind the scenes, they're in front of pentagrams.
They're killing babies.
They're devil-worshiping.
They've got their God.
They believe he's got the power.
And they know your God's got a thousand trillion times the power.
And they don't know what to do.
unidentified
So they just say, don't you call on your God because your God's not real!
alex jones
Give us the power!
They don't have any power.
dan friesen
What?
alex jones
All they have is the power.
To piss on God.
jordan holmes
That's pretty powerful.
alex jones
To piss on reality.
To piss on common sense.
To piss on their own instincts.
dan friesen
So much piss.
Just always talks about people's piss stuff.
jordan holmes
Just a real...
It's a piss preoccupation.
Oh boy.
dan friesen
So this leads into a long rant about Bill Gates wanting to kill you.
jordan holmes
It's a sentence that is normal to have on any other podcast.
People hear that sentence all the time.
dan friesen
Yes.
And Alex does explain that if 100,000 people all prayed for Bill Gates to go down, he would go down, but we don't have that right now.
jordan holmes
Because we don't have the power.
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
Anyway, Bill Gates wants to kill you.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
They're not trying to dominate you.
They're not trying to get you to go along with them.
That's phase one.
They want you dead.
He wants every damn person he looks at dead because he hates himself.
Every minute of every day.
of every second.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
So.
I should probably hit all this breaking news.
But I want to come up here commercial free and talk about the reality of the planet.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
The planet.
And the reality of the decisions that are being made now.
Between you and God.
Between you and eternity.
dan friesen
Wait, that's what's going on now?
I thought that this was supposed to be about how you didn't do your job earlier.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
What happened?
I definitely did not get drunk after having a bad go-around with my ex-wife and feel the need to vent like a child on air.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's not what happened at all, Dan.
Not at all.
And if you're thinking that...
You're a globalist crazy person.
dan friesen
I'm strongly suspecting.
jordan holmes
You are a vampire, is what you're doing.
dan friesen
A vampire bat.
jordan holmes
You're a vampire.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex talks about, you know, like, everyone had slaves, so it wasn't that bad of a thing.
jordan holmes
That's really not how that works.
dan friesen
Alex has a very interesting sort of version of temporal ethics, let's say, going on here.
alex jones
The whole world had slaves.
Every sector, there weren't nations then, there were regions.
They all had slaves.
So what?
It's not a good thing.
It's not a bad thing.
What?
It's like Tyrannosaurus Rexes 50 million years ago were eating stuff.
I mean, it's like, what does that mean?
dan friesen
Well, those are animals.
That's different than human morality.
Also, that means, like, what he's implying there is...
jordan holmes
We can enslave him.
dan friesen
Well, no.
It's not good, it's not bad.
Well, no, we could have way back when.
jordan holmes
I think he's still saying that morality is fungible.
dan friesen
Well, yes, absolutely.
He's saying that there is absolute moral relativism in terms of circumstances.
Well, yeah, because then everyone had slaves, so it's neither good nor bad.
jordan holmes
They had no idea it was bad to own another human being.
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, the implications of that are harrowing.
I mean, because then you could just...
Any issue that you want to talk about, like whether it's, you know, he's super against abortion, but if everybody is fine...
jordan holmes
Everybody had abortions back then.
dan friesen
Then he can't think that it's wrong.
jordan holmes
No, he thinks it's wrong because there's something known as morality, Dan.
And that's true all the time.
dan friesen
I would argue that it's always wrong to enslave people.
jordan holmes
Well, that's wrong because that was in the past.
dan friesen
But it was neither wrong nor right in the past.
jordan holmes
Well, it's wrong now, but that's not as bad as abortion.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
Huh.
I mean, there were times in civilizations where Alex talks a lot about how human sacrifice is so horribly wrong.
jordan holmes
And that's always wrong.
dan friesen
But there were cultures that did it in the past.
jordan holmes
Well, that was fine.
dan friesen
Do you see where this kind of thinking gets you really off track pretty quickly?
jordan holmes
He's saying this.
I know exactly what happened.
I know that white people enslaved people.
I know it was wrong.
I know my success is built around stolen labor, stolen value, stolen lives.
I know all of this.
I don't want to feel bad about it.
So slavery's fine now.
dan friesen
Well, no, it's not that it's fine.
I'm rewriting history in such a way as to say that Christianity, and white Christianity in particular...
Is the thing that stopped all bad things.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So, yeah, slavery was bad, you know, or whatever, but white Christianity came around and fixed it.
And that is the thought that he's working through here.
Everything is chaos until Jesus.
jordan holmes
White Jesus.
dan friesen
Well, yeah.
And then...
alex jones
I mean, Africa, 500 years ago, was a giant war zone.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
alex jones
So was Europe.
So was Japan.
So was what's in Russia.
So, I mean, that's what we do.
We're so successful as a species, we take over, we grow crops, we build palaces, we expand, we start going, that's our neighbor and he's got a problem and we're going to capture him.
Until Jesus Christ comes along and says, we need to love each other and love God and we need to build a society together and we need to stand for justice and freedom.
And we can go to the stars together.
That's why you've had Rwanda, the Hootsies and the Tutus.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
One group was Christian, less than 10% of the population, had all the money, all the wealth.
The other group were animus.
They couldn't do anything.
They couldn't get out of mud huts.
It was the same Africans, the same genetics.
But the Christians created incredible wealth, had export deals and jobs.
jordan holmes
Export deals, Dan.
alex jones
Almost all of them and turned it over to the devil worshipers.
And now it's collapsed.
dan friesen
Alex might want to look into Rwandan history a little bit.
jordan holmes
Nah, they had export deals, Dan.
dan friesen
I mean, that's really close to what you might call genocide revisionism.
jordan holmes
Oh, why is that?
dan friesen
I mean, he's not denying that a thing happened.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But the rewriting of Rwandan dynamics is...
It's really upsetting.
Yeah.
From a lack of information standpoint, and then from using this atrocity, this horror of human history, as some sort of a prop in your, like, Jesus is what made these people prosperous, whereas these other ones not.
It's gross.
It's legitimately gross.
jordan holmes
It really is.
But it's made up to the point of, like...
11th century kind of thinking in order to get people to go to the Crusades.
It's like we're supposed to be beyond that now.
unidentified
Should be.
jordan holmes
You know, it's 2020.
dan friesen
Well, Alex isn't when he's drunk.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
So I think that Alex realizes after rambling for quite a while that he isn't talking about anything.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
He is not hitting these news stories that he's supposedly supposed to be doing.
And so he calls for a special report.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
In the middle.
unidentified
In the middle of his special report that he didn't need to do in the middle of the night.
dan friesen
You bet.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
I'm almost an hour into this rant, and I could talk for 10 hours, but I don't know what the point is.
jordan holmes
Tell me about it.
alex jones
The last program.
jordan holmes
Fucking tell me about it.
alex jones
There's a few promos I didn't play.
There's one I did on the Collapse Society that should be seen.
That's number seven.
This is kind of an infomercial, but it hasn't aired yet.
It's got some important information.
We'll air this, and I'll come back, and I'll cover the facts.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Cool.
Is his staff just, like, chained there?
Do they sleep there in the basement?
dan friesen
I can't even imagine what they're going through.
jordan holmes
What is going on right now?
dan friesen
The disappointment.
jordan holmes
The misery of being there for that.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
Because if you're committed to the quote-unquote cause that InfoWars pretends to be, you can't be happy with this.
No.
If you're someone who's just like a slick fraud con person, you also can't be happy with this.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
No matter what the end goal is, this is what I was saying.
Remember earlier when you said like, hey, they can bleep out someone saying shit, but he can't bleep out him threatening or like saying that the New York Attorney General is a murderer?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You don't have to post this.
jordan holmes
You can just turn it off.
dan friesen
This is two hours.
jordan holmes
It's not live.
dan friesen
It's still on band.video.
jordan holmes
Why take it down?
dan friesen
There was no reason to put it up.
jordan holmes
Why take it down, Dan?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
It's too good.
It's too good of content.
dan friesen
There is almost nothing worth your time in this entire two hours.
Unless you're you and me, and you like to laugh at how they say weird stuff.
unidentified
Then...
jordan holmes
It's fantastic.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This was a gift to us.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex is going to get to the special report, but it takes the people a little bit longer to find it.
And so he starts rambling about how Adam Schiff...
Doesn't have a soul.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And in the process, I think he accidentally supports something that he's supposed to be totally against.
alex jones
I mean, look at Schiff.
I mean, just give me a break, man.
You don't let that guy babysit your kids?
I mean, look at that.
That is not a human right there.
jordan holmes
Why?
alex jones
That is a psychotic program turned loose to kill us because that's all it knows.
I mean, it's like the enemy spaceship lands like in Oblivion and out comes Tom Cruise.
Ted Cruz comes out too, I guess.
I mean, you know, that's what it is.
He doesn't know.
And it's not a mean thing to say that about him, but he doesn't have a soul.
Because when you get a man and a woman together, I figured this out, several generations that are devil worshippers, they start having kids that don't even have a light bulb.
And nobody puts that books.
I'm just telling you that's what I see, is that people like Schiff, their elevators don't go to the top.
And I'm sure you've heard that term before.
They don't go to the top, folks.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
I tell you, Oblivion's such an important movie, actually.
Let's talk about that more.
That's exactly what they've got planned for us.
That's actually in Revelations, actually.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Oh, boy, indeed.
Oh, boy.
So, I'm glad that Alex remembered that he liked Oblivion.
That is a positive.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
I can't wait to hear more about that.
jordan holmes
He's got some good recall.
dan friesen
Certainly hasn't fucking talked enough about it in other episodes we've listened to.
Entire goddamn episodes full of him talking about it.
unidentified
He likes it.
dan friesen
It's a good movie.
unidentified
I've never seen it.
dan friesen
Changed my life.
jordan holmes
I've never seen it and I don't want to.
I want to hear it through him.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I've heard it sucks.
The other thing there is that Alex apparently believes in eugenics.
jordan holmes
So.
Now, I did not know this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But you can breathe the soul out?
dan friesen
Apparently, yeah.
If you're a couple of devil worshippers.
jordan holmes
Seven generations.
dan friesen
I don't think he said seven, but he said over generations.
jordan holmes
Over generations.
dan friesen
And this is not something you'll find in books.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine why.
Because that's a language people need to get out of.
dan friesen
I mean, the implication is that there's soul eugenics.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Soulgenics.
dan friesen
Soulgenics.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This isn't good.
This is bad.
jordan holmes
So wait.
Can you breed a soul back into somebody?
dan friesen
You would think.
jordan holmes
You would have to be.
dan friesen
I mean, the implication seems to be that the reverse would be true.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the science on this is bananas.
dan friesen
Right, and if you do believe in that, then Christians should only be having kids with other good Christians.
jordan holmes
With other good Christians.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But a Satanist could pretend to be a Christian, infiltrate a family, and then slowly steal the souls of all their generations.
dan friesen
I think that would take a lot more generations.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
It would be a fool's errand.
jordan holmes
I'm 1 16th soulless.
dan friesen
This is all incredibly dumb.
But it does reveal some of these weird thoughts that Alex has and these weird things about...
You're talking about how these people who want to allow people to have birth control options or evil eugenicists.
You're talking about how if people you deem to be devil worshippers have kids, they'll have less of a soul.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Get the fuck out of here, Alex.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
Alex does play this special report.
And he was not wrong.
It is an infomercial.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
It is about how you need to buy survival food because, you know...
Shit's going down.
jordan holmes
Special report.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And when he comes back, Alex is so depressed.
alex jones
All right.
I'm proud of that infomercial because it's true.
You should get horrible food.
Might as well get it from us.
unidentified
Yeah.
Thank you.
alex jones
You know, it's not some building suspense thing where I get up here and I go, I've got all these articles.
I've got all this news.
I can't talk.
I just can't talk.
I just can't do this anymore.
I just can't do it anymore.
Like, I felt driven the night to come down here and do a couple hours, and Matt came in, and Daria, and Wes, and Rob, and all the rest of the crew, and I love you guys so much.
And you put up with me, and I really appreciate that.
There's just a feeling like we should fix it, but it's kind of like a plane crash.
It's all burned up.
There's dead bodies on the field, and we're just out there trying to, like...
Put it all back together again, and we just can't fix it, can we?
dan friesen
This is dark.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah?
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
I don't know why I'm doing it.
I can't even do my job anymore.
I'm not fucking with you.
I have a bunch of pieces of paper in front of me.
I can't do this.
I just don't even...
jordan holmes
You know what's fun?
And also, a little bit bittersweet.
I think this is a little bit bittersweet.
Early on in the show...
This is Friday night.
He releases this.
dan friesen
No, this is Thursday night.
jordan holmes
This is Thursday night.
This is Thursday night.
He releases this.
At the very beginning of the show, we had just finished recording an episode.
If you would listen to that, you would have been like, get back in here.
We got to do an emergency episode on this episode.
dan friesen
I don't know if I would have.
I don't know if I would have.
I don't think I could have handled it.
It's kind of like, I mean, it's a little ugly.
That I feel a little reinvigorated.
But it's not because of Alex's pain or anything like that.
It's that this is kind of interesting to me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
This isn't just the rote repetition of the same things.
Now granted, a lot of these themes are the same.
Like Alex being like, I can't do my job.
I'm terrible at this.
I have all this news.
I'm not getting to it.
jordan holmes
You don't need to say that.
dan friesen
But it's escalated to another level because he clearly was trying.
jordan holmes
I know, yeah.
dan friesen
He was clearly trying to do his job by coming in and doing another two hours, and he finds himself incapable of doing anything except ranting about the devil and saying nothing.
That's all he can do.
And I was sitting here and thinking on this and trying to reflect on it.
I'm like, well, obviously, he was just trying to sell shit.
But he's not really.
jordan holmes
It doesn't look like it.
dan friesen
He's not constantly going to add pivots.
He's not constantly trying to sell his product.
He does play that infomercial in the middle of this, but at the end, after the infomercial, he's kind of like, yeah, I mean, if you're going to buy food, might as well buy it from us.
It's not the same kind of like we're doing a QVC sales pitch like he generally would do with those 30-hour marathons.
It appears to me to be a guy who...
He legitimately did his show on the day that Ghislaine Maxwell was arrested, which is supposed to be sweeps week or whatever for him.
He recognized at the end of it, I punted.
I did not do a good job.
Wants to really get back in there and realizes he's lost his arm.
He doesn't have the pitch anymore.
He does not have the same skills that he had as a younger man.
And that, to me, is interesting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, that isn't...
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Like, the content, of course, isn't interesting.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
But the emotional arc of it is, because you see at the end of this, it's like he's fucking depressed as hell.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
At himself.
unidentified
Yes!
jordan holmes
Like, the psychodrama here is just like you said.
dan friesen
I can't do this anymore.
jordan holmes
Like, what's fascinating is that he...
This is not like his show.
He's gonna go to work.
That's what he does as he's got a 9 to 5. This is special.
This is...
There's some intent behind this.
And the intent is very clearly, I want to do my job better, which is something we do not hear him do.
dan friesen
Well, I don't know if I trust that.
jordan holmes
Nah, probably not.
dan friesen
But there's some pretense of it, at least.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then he comes on the show, and he learns as he's talking that he's full of shit.
Like, while he's talking.
Like, as he's talking, he's learning.
He's like, I don't have anything to say.
Why am I here?
It's fascinating.
dan friesen
I mean, early in this evening report, he says explicitly, I didn't cover the news that I meant to on my show, so we're doing this.
Then he gets derailed by talking about his ex-wife wanting to take his kids.
Then, pretty quickly, he just starts rambling about nothing.
jordan holmes
It goes away.
dan friesen
He's like, I was going to talk about the news, but then we've got to talk about what the connection is between you and eternity.
Why?
And then, just constant...
We're talking about nothing.
Just all sorts of various scattershot bullshit pieces of rambling.
And then you get to the end, towards the end here, and there's just a recognition that I can't do this.
jordan holmes
He can't do it.
dan friesen
And there's also a recognition that I find even more interesting that is, I don't know why I'm doing this.
If you listen to that clip, he's not just saying, I can't...
I can't talk.
I can't do whatever these things are.
He's saying, I don't know why.
Because I agree with him.
I don't know why you're doing it.
Well, no, that's not true.
I do know why you set out to do this.
jordan holmes
Exactly, yes.
The gulf between what he thought he was going to do and what he did do is so vast, even he can't talk it away.
Like, he realizes...
dan friesen
He probably could as a younger man.
jordan holmes
As a younger man, the gulf wouldn't be that big.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
It would still be big.
dan friesen
Yes.
He wouldn't have got himself in this situation as a younger man.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Because, again, if you look back at his website in 2006, it's very different.
Very far cry from this.
And for a reason.
It's because, you know, when you start going down these lanes, you box yourself in a little bit.
jordan holmes
This isn't a guy building a business.
This is a guy whose business is crumbling.
dan friesen
Or, I mean, probably.
Yeah.
Everything's crumbling.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, whenever that happens, of course, it becomes externalized.
And we see that here, too.
Whenever personal troubles happen...
jordan holmes
It's everybody else's fault, and they're going to pay for it.
alex jones
I just more and more just think I should get myself ready.
Seriously, I can't lie to you.
So I'm just going to tell you the truth.
I think you better get your ass ready with God and everything else, because...
This planet's a damn time bomb.
And I think everybody knows that.
It's a time bomb.
It's a time bomb.
You know, as bad as stuff is, it's good for you to just realize that at least you have a relationship with God.
You need to.
Because...
This whole thing's counting down now.
dan friesen
So the end of the world is coming.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Great.
It is over for humanity, and I guess there won't be lone survivors.
jordan holmes
Nope, it's all gone.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I mean, it's just like, that's just, to me, a reflection of his mindset at this point.
He's very depressed.
And of course, because of how Alex is as a person, the way that this gets articulated is through violence.
Like, the way he deals with his problems, or at least it seems to be from all the stories he ever tells, is violence, is how anything is solved.
And so when he's talking about this great anger that he has with the devil, he's like, I just wish I could beat up the devil.
alex jones
And listen, I'm not preaching that when I tell you this.
It's me telling myself, because as a man, I want to beat Satan's ass.
I want to take Lucifer and slam his head in the ground and bash his brains out.
I can't do it.
And if Satan can trick you to try to contend with him, he wins.
But you call Jesus in.
You're going to win every time.
That's why callers call in.
They just apologize for talking about God.
My God.
My whole show ought to just be Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ.
jordan holmes
The whole show.
dan friesen
It basically is, already.
You may not realize it, Alex.
jordan holmes
When you think you're having a great opinion about Ghislaine Maxwell, you're doing this, actually.
So it is Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Yeah, most of the time, you are just doing bizarre, meandering evangelism.
So congratulations, you're doing what you think you should do.
Which I think is trash, but whatever.
jordan holmes
It is trash.
dan friesen
So, I mean, Alex, again, in this dark moment, is recognizing that, like...
I did not do what I set out to do, which was cover the news on this two-hour live broadcast.
alex jones
So I got 100 articles.
You know, I was so mad at myself today when I got off the air at 3 o 'clock or whatever it was, and I hadn't covered all this news.
And I said to the crew, hey, will you come in?
Will you do two hours with me?
Seven to nine.
I'm going to cover it all.
I'm going to fix it.
And then I came in here and...
jordan holmes
Shat the bed.
alex jones
I can't fix it.
He can't fix it.
dan friesen
Wow.
alex jones
You can't fix it.
Only God can fix it.
And that's what it really comes down to.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
So, here's probably what's best.
Let me just cover a few news articles, then we'll air a few rebroadcast clips, or clips that haven't aired, then we'll just hit this transmission.
dan friesen
Here's the thing that I think is fascinating.
He's not fake crying.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
There isn't, like, a fake over-amplification of these things that he's expressing.
And the thing that really chilled me is him saying, I was really mad at myself when I ended my show, so I told the crew, come on in, I'm gonna fix it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I'm gonna fix it is such an interesting thing because that's exactly what I thought was his intention when I saw the evening show.
You fucked up.
This is supposed to be a big day for you.
This is supposed to be like your new 9-11 day or whatever.
You fucked up.
You need to fix it.
That is what his intention was.
I'm not making that up.
He said it.
He said that I need to fix this and then I came in and I can't fix it.
No one can fix it.
It's dark!
It's fucking dark!
jordan holmes
That is dark.
That is dark.
It's really, really funny.
It's really funny.
dan friesen
I mean, because it's Alex.
jordan holmes
Because it's Alex.
Oh, no, if this was a real human being...
dan friesen
To someone who you should care about, then it would be a tragedy.
jordan holmes
It's so sad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But this is...
dan friesen
I mean, you kind of see similar stories played out in fiction of people who have lost their step or whatever.
The moment where you're in over your head.
jordan holmes
The fucking king of comedy.
This is, yeah.
dan friesen
Where you do something that you maybe used to be able to do or you think you're capable of that you're no longer capable of and you have that moment out on stage where you're bombing when you think you should be killing.
You're losing a game when you should, in your prime, you could have handled it.
I mean, the pathos is there, but because the guy's a piece of shit, whatever.
jordan holmes
Well, I think my biggest problem is, it seems like the answers to all of his questions could really just come to him if he got off the air, went home and just looked in the mirror and was just like, people don't like me because I'm the dick, not them.
dan friesen
So, Alex, in that last clip, like I said, I mean, I can't stress this enough.
I was mad at myself, and I wanted to fix it, are just such clear expressions of what he's doing.
And this is supposed to be a two-hour thing.
He bails.
jordan holmes
Of course he does.
dan friesen
He bails in an hour and a half.
unidentified
Oh, God.
alex jones
So in the last 30 minutes here tonight, these special reports, then Lord willing, I'll be back tomorrow.
11 a.m. Central, I appreciate the crew coming in.
And we've covered a lot of important information, so thank you.
I really appreciate you.
I appreciate the listeners and viewers for putting up on this guy.
Alright, here's the reports.
dan friesen
So that's it.
He leaves half an hour early.
I just think it's sad.
It's sad.
Whether he's drunk or not, I do have a suspicion that he's drunk, but whether or not he is, that's just a disgraceful kind of showing.
And it's just a bummer.
The number of failings are staggering.
He failed to cover the news in the way he intended to.
He failed to sell anything, if that was part of his agenda.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
He failed to make it the entire two hours.
It's just, it's amazing.
He failed to keep his head about him.
jordan holmes
Couldn't even focus on anything.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Failed to even really talk about the only story that he was there for.
God!
Can you imagine being like Rob Do or Daria or something like that?
And you get the call like, hey, we're coming in at 7. And for that brief moment, you think, oh man, maybe this is the old Alex.
He's just been doing nothing.
And this time he's the one inspiring himself to go do something.
He's got the juice.
This is when he's going to bring it for the first time in years.
dan friesen
He's been in his office cogitating like a cogiter.
jordan holmes
Like a cogiter like a motherfucker.
dan friesen
Right.
And then he comes out of the office and it's like, oh, he's just been drinking.
jordan holmes
And then you get there and the show starts and your heart just goes, why am I here?
dan friesen
You have that whole build up and then it starts like this.
alex jones
You know, whenever I get attacked by the enemy.
Tears start flowing out my eyes.
It's not because the enemy is attacking.
When the enemy comes in like a flood, the Spirit of the Lord raises up a center against it.
unidentified
always very good so strong Stars.
dan friesen
And then you're like, we're in trouble.
We're in trouble.
We're in deep trouble.
All right.
Well, I guess I'm going to have a lecture about four ways to learn by the end of this thing.
But that's the difference.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
That's the difference.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
In 2017, when Alex did that long, drunk special report, he would not get off the air.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
dan friesen
He was talking about skulls covered in semen.
He was talking about love in Mexican music.
jordan holmes
His space.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
His space.
dan friesen
He was...
Rob Dew had his coat on and wanted to leave.
And Alex was telling him about the four ways to learn.
jordan holmes
Hey, listen, Rob.
You stay right fucking there.
dan friesen
Roger Stone and him were supposed to do the whole thing.
Roger stayed for like half an hour and Alex kept going.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
Going with a head of steam until he couldn't.
Now in 2020, he can't even make it the full two hours.
jordan holmes
He's a shell.
dan friesen
It's depressing.
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Depressing, Alex.
jordan holmes
So fun.
dan friesen
Anyway, enjoy.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Have a good time.
Hope you had a good fourth.
Hope you enjoyed fighting Antifa or whatever you did.
jordan holmes
Hope somebody sues you soon.
dan friesen
Yep.
Anyway, Jordan, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
We will be back.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
You bet.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight, and I go to bet Jordan.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook, download the show on iTunes, and if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out in any way you can.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I am a subterranean cyborg.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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