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June 10, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#443: June 9, 2020

June 9, 2020’s The Alex Jones Show mocks donors with crude humor while falsely framing George Floyd protests as "agitation propaganda," ignoring police violence in Chattanooga, Jackson, and Seattle. He pushes debunked JFK conspiracy theories, dismisses credible ex-leftists, and weaponizes David Dorn’s fraudulent GoFundMe claim to attack BLM. Steve Pieczenik’s bizarre rants—like Trump secretly building a moon base with Elon Musk—further expose the show’s reliance on misinformation over facts, revealing its core strategy: fearmongering to undermine dissent while peddling pseudoscience and fringe fantasies. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 09:38
d
dan friesen
43:25
j
jordan holmes
13:31
Appearances
s
steve pieczenik
03:08
Callers
dre in chicago
callers 00:32
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
alex jones
Shang, we are the bad guys.
Knowledge and fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need fight, need money.
Andy and Pansy.
unidentified
Andy and Tandy.
alex jones
Stop.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas, you're on the airplane for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish pin colour amongst you today.
And I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
Like, sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan?
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
unidentified
Y'all.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
Let me get back to it because it's actually involved with something else.
Oh, you go first.
jordan holmes
Is it dating?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Okay.
My bright spot, Dan.
After putting more than 100 hours into Final Fantasy VII Meg, I have finally.
Oh, yeah, of course I did.
Twice.
On hard mode.
dan friesen
That's too much.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I have gotten back to playing Horizon Zero Dawn.
Great game.
unidentified
Awesome.
jordan holmes
Really enjoying it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I know a lot of listeners really responded well to my love of that game.
I think it's fantastic.
jordan holmes
It really is.
dan friesen
I'm not usually a guy who likes a bow and arrow-based game, but the mechanics are really well done.
And then the story is just fantastic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's really great.
dan friesen
It's really interesting, and I'm glad you're enjoying it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, love me a good two-hour jaunt on side quests and then forget that I'm doing a main story, period.
dan friesen
It's very rare that I give someone a recommendation and it turns out well.
So I'm glad that that is the case.
jordan holmes
You got one.
dan friesen
So put it on the board.
My bright spot for this episode is actually going to dovetail squarely into the year of the year of the seltzer, Jordan.
I have been slacking a little bit on it because the move and everything.
It's difficult.
But I've focused.
And part of that is because I have to pack up everything and fucking Seltzer's first.
jordan holmes
There's still Seltzer in there.
You got to get rid of them somehow.
dan friesen
So we're up to 104.
jordan holmes
104.
dan friesen
600 thresholds.
jordan holmes
That's exciting.
dan friesen
We are more than one-fifth of the way through this within two months.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's exciting.
dan friesen
We started on 420, but it's now 6'9 as we're recording this.
42069.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
Forget it.
jordan holmes
That is great.
unidentified
It's awesome.
jordan holmes
Let's all go home.
So we can wrap up America.
We did everything we set out to do.
dan friesen
The reason that this is my bright spot is that it also comes with a really exciting thing, and that is that there is a new entry in the top five.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Yes, we have encountered an 80-plus seltzer.
jordan holmes
An 80-plus.
dan friesen
So as we know, Mars.
jordan holmes
A bit of a drop for this one, too.
dan friesen
No, no, although I should.
Mars Brewery is coming in at number one with the flower power.
jordan holmes
Yes, fantastic.
dan friesen
Amazing.
jordan holmes
Really, really good.
dan friesen
Number two is still AHA Black Cherry Coffee.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
Is it an 83?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I believe Mars Brewery is at 84.
And then up till now, Mars Brewery had another entry at the 3-spot with their citrus party.
But it has been taken.
The 3-spot has been taken.
jordan holmes
The 3-spot has been taken.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
By Petal.
That flower brand of Seltzer's.
They have one that's an Elderberry white tea flower.
jordan holmes
That sounds amazing.
dan friesen
I was worried about it because I don't know offhand what an Elderberry tastes like.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
No idea.
So I didn't know what to think encountering it, but I took a sip.
I was like, this is amazing.
But I'm like, I'm just hyping this up.
This isn't as good as I think it is.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And then as I kept drinking it, I was like, I need to go to the store and get more of this.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
Oh, that's a good one.
Yeah.
dan friesen
It wasn't as like.
I didn't think it beat the black cherry coffee, but it's still way up there.
So it's coming in at the number three.
Citrus Party has bumped out to the number four.
And Lacroix, Lemoncello, rounding it up to number five.
jordan holmes
Still there.
dan friesen
Salute to Bubbler, Passion Fruit Wonder.
You've been knocked off the top five list.
You had a great run.
jordan holmes
Man, what's that?
Elderberry white tea?
Flour.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
That sounds like something that a woodland creature in Red Wall would drink.
unidentified
Yeah, and if you don't have them anymore, where's Martin the Warrior when that's going to see these cans?
dan friesen
They look very fantasy-esh.
They're very cool-looking.
jordan holmes
I believe it.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I think there's a trend that I'm starting to notice.
And I think that some of these tea-ish ones maybe are more my speed in terms of flavors.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
They have a little bit more complexity and are a little bit more tasty.
unidentified
I like it.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll see.
Anyway, past 100.
Got a new entry in the top five.
jordan holmes
Six options.
unidentified
Three.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
What a day.
jordan holmes
Big news.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Big news.
dan friesen
Very exciting to celebrate.
jordan holmes
Nothing else going on.
dan friesen
No.
So, Jordan, we got an interesting little thing to go over today.
We've got the June 9th, 2020 episode of the Alex Jones.
Show him, Dan.
This is 2020.
God damn it.
And we'll discuss some sort of weird stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, some stuff.
dan friesen
After we take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up and are supporting the show.
So, first, there's a little bit of a trend of fecal names.
jordan holmes
Oh, we're doing shit now.
dan friesen
Well, it's not all fecal, but it's the bodily function kind of thing that I don't appreciate.
But I still appreciate people supporting the show.
So, Farty McPooper, you are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you, Farty.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
You just resent having to say McPooper.
dan friesen
Next, Jason M. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Jason.
alex jones
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Tom C. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thanks, Tom.
Next, Alex Jones Smegma.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
Now I'm going to repeat.
jordan holmes
No, I'm good.
dan friesen
Next, Shitter McGaffin.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
It's been a while since I've had that Adam Sandler reference.
dan friesen
Shitter, though.
jordan holmes
Yes.
No, no, no.
unidentified
I get it.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I got it, Dan.
I got it.
dan friesen
Next, Rochelle.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Rochelle.
dan friesen
Thank you, Rochelle.
Next, David B. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
You know what the B stands for?
dan friesen
That's it.
unidentified
But.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
Then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated in such a way as to rise above in a way that they deserve very special recognition.
jordan holmes
The elderberry white tea of Total.
dan friesen
And so I would like to say thank you to Rebecca, R-E-B-E-K-A-H, who has wonderful hair.
Thank you so much.
You are now a Raptor Princess of the highest order.
And also, I think that I may have already given a thank you and a Raptor Princess induction for this person.
But in case I haven't, Laura W. Thank you so much.
You are also a Raptor Princess.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
alex jones
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
I'll barbecue your ass.
unidentified
It's over for humanity.
alex jones
You're a beautiful soul.
You're coming for your balls.
Well, I piss all over your gun.
Very few people crap in the pool unless they're babies.
I piss all over the state.
unidentified
Is it a practice of calling people pieces of garbage?
alex jones
When they are?
unidentified
Coming!
As you see.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Rebecca, and thank you so much, Laura.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
We appreciate it very much.
And if you're out there listening and thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show.
I'd like to support with these gents, too.
You can do that by going to our website, KnowledgeFight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, or you could take that generosity and throw it in the direction of some charity in your local area that's dealing with people in need.
That would be wonderful as well.
jordan holmes
Yes, we would appreciate it.
dan friesen
Indeed.
So, like I said, Jordan, this is a little weird, this episode.
And that's because on Monday, I turned on the show, and Owen Schroer was hosting.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
It's like, fuck this noise.
jordan holmes
All wall-to-wall Schroyer.
dan friesen
Click, turn it off.
I believe he did.
Alex actually did come in and do some of the show later.
But if Owen's hosting like the first hour, I'm not done.
I don't know what I'm doing.
jordan holmes
You're not sticking around.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So I was pretty worried that we'd have nothing to really cover for this episode.
So Tuesday comes around, June 9th, and I turn it on.
Fucking David Knight's hosting.
jordan holmes
No, that's good stuff.
dan friesen
But David Knight is a pro.
jordan holmes
And he said, calm down.
dan friesen
He said that Alex is going to be in a little bit later and that Steve Pieczenik was going to be on.
And so I was like, well, all right.
jordan holmes
That's catnip to you.
You got no choice.
dan friesen
Got to find out what Steve Pieczenik has to say about things, that awful fraud.
So I can't not do that.
So I decided to just ignore all the time that David Knight's hosting.
Right at the end of the first hour, Alex shows up in the last segment of the first hour.
And so we will begin our investigation and exploration of June 9th when Alex comes in.
And actually, I will say, Steve Pieczenik disappointed me a little bit, but there's something else that goes on on this episode that I think is fantastic and definitely worth our time.
So we start off with Alex teasing that.
Although, he starts off with an intention of what the show is going to be, and then he almost doesn't get to it at all.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
alex jones
Here's what I want to do today: I want to open the phones up for the balance of the next three hours.
And I want to take your phone calls on the subjects of what's unfolding in the world.
dan friesen
So Alex is going to take phone calls for the next three hours.
jordan holmes
I predict three phone calls.
dan friesen
He doesn't start taking calls for another hour after this.
And then Steve Pieczenik's on for a while.
He does not take many calls.
He takes a couple of calls.
And there's a reason for this.
And it's because he will later stipulate what sorts of callers he wants.
And it is a non-existent group.
alex jones
So you better get these calls.
All right.
dan friesen
Okay.
But we'll see how that goes.
jordan holmes
What, the Antifa leadership?
Is that what he's looking for?
dan friesen
I think he would have liked to have a head-to-head with Senor Antifa.
So in this next clip, Alex, you know, when he puts the call out for calls, he has to wait.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
People aren't calling in immediately.
So he's got to vamp for a little bit.
And he talks about this phenomenon that we're seeing of people getting hit by cars at protests.
jordan holmes
Yes, white nationalists hitting people.
dan friesen
Wait, what is he not going to Alex is a slightly different take?
jordan holmes
Oh, that sounds right.
alex jones
There are video after video after video where they throw themselves on the hoods of people's cars.
Wow.
And act like they fall down and act like that they've been attacked.
jordan holmes
Big swing.
alex jones
Says, oh, look, someone tried to ram them down and kill them.
All trying to repeat Charlottesville over and over again.
So it's like a big satanic drama club of victimology control freaks over and over and over again repeating the same garbage.
dan friesen
Those are words.
jordan holmes
You know, a lot of, and here's the thing that we don't talk about enough.
A lot of people are shooting themselves 40 or 50 times in the back before they talk to the cops.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
In order to make it look like they're the rash of that guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A lot of people just shooting themselves many times, tens of times in the back.
dan friesen
So I would say that this is a really interesting way for Alex to try and contextualize and hand wave away a bunch of videos of protesters getting hit by cars.
jordan holmes
A bunch of fucking lemmings jumping into cars left and right.
dan friesen
Another way to look at it is that since the Unite the Right rally, online bigots and neo-Nazis have celebrated the idea of using cars as weapons.
And what you're seeing likely contains at least a kernel of copycatting from that.
jordan holmes
Almost certainly.
dan friesen
So, I don't know what Alex is doing, but here there's a ton of videos like what Alex is describing, and a number of them fall into slightly different circumstances.
Some of them are police who attempt to drive through people or intentionally open their door as they're passing a protester in order to hit them with it.
Other are civilians that are driving into people, and a number of those videos certainly look like attacks on protesters, but each is an individual case, and it's kind of hard for me to speak about them in a blanket sense because each one is a little bit different.
jordan holmes
Sure, my feeling is that driving a car into any group of people is an attack.
dan friesen
You bet.
That's where I'm at.
jordan holmes
Regardless of other contexts, that's where I'm at.
dan friesen
That said, within the last week or so, I can find instances of protesters being hit by cars in Chattanooga, Jackson, Michigan, and there was 55-year-old Robert Forbes who died after being struck by a car in Bakersfield.
Then, of course, there was the incident in Denver from the end of May.
It seems to be happening quite a bit.
I can't get into the specifics of all of those cases, but what I can do is discuss one recent instance of this that is very clearly a man trying to kill protesters, which illustrates how wrong and awful Alex is.
On Sunday night in Seattle, a 31-year-old man drove his car directly toward a group of protesters who stopped him with a barricade.
When his car stopped, some protesters naturally started hitting his car since he had tried to run people over.
One man who was near his open driver's side window falls to the ground, having been shot by the man who was driving the car.
The dude gets out of the car brandishing a gun.
He tried to escape by sort of mixing in with the crowd and running away, but he was ultimately subdued by protesters and then turned himself into the police.
Great, claiming that he'd been forced to shoot someone who was carjacking him.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This story doesn't match with the video, nor with the accounts of people who saw the car accelerating as he approached the mass of protesters, which doesn't make sense unless his intentions were to run people over.
So we'll wait to see what information eventually comes out on this front.
But from the information available now, it's very hard to see this as anything other than a guy trying to hit protesters with his car, failing, and then deciding to shoot someone instead.
This is disgusting stuff coming from Alex.
On one level, he knows fully well that what he's doing is providing PR cover for people who want to enact violence on people for expressing their First Amendment right to protest.
Alex knows that, and I hope it eats him up inside because he's a monster.
jordan holmes
I'm surprised that he's not going with the false flag and somewhat refreshed by it.
It's too easy to go with the false flag now.
The idea that protesters are jumping in front of cars, that's a new swing.
dan friesen
I guess so, but it's not really, because that is a false flag.
unidentified
Well, I guess.
jordan holmes
I mean, in some ways, yes.
dan friesen
That is the protesters pulling a false flag by jumping on these cars that are rushing at the car.
jordan holmes
Right, but it's not the protesters in the cars setting the whole thing up.
True.
I'll give him at least one new wrinkle.
dan friesen
It's not a new wrinkle, even.
This is, again, one of the difficulties of Alex's whole idea, even of false flags, is it's a meaningless term.
It could mean a hundred different things depending on what the circumstances are he's trying to claim or fake.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
It's very frustrating.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is annoying.
steve pieczenik
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has been gone, you know, these last two days.
He's been pulling half days.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Well, too many protesters have been jumping in front of his car.
He can't go anywhere.
dan friesen
I mean, certainly that could be it.
Or somebody might make the argument that maybe he's not as committed as he really pretends to be about the info war.
jordan holmes
Could be.
unidentified
You're a dick.
jordan holmes
Come on, Alex.
dan friesen
Calm down.
I'm just floating theories.
I'm going to take it away from you.
Just floating theories.
jordan holmes
I'm taking your computer away from you.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex has an explanation for why he was gone these two days.
alex jones
Well, I appreciate the crew, and I appreciate all the radio stations, TV stations, and Dave and Knight sitting in the first 45 minutes.
I had to be in family court yesterday.
That's why I missed the first hour.
And then today, I had an extraction of a broken tooth set up months ago.
COVID-19 shut that down.
It took longer for them to get to me.
So they pulled this molar.
That's been done.
We're going to go to break.
Here's the big announcement.
Reason you should buy our new iodine spray is because atomic iodine is so incredibly good for your body.
And because almost no one else is on the market selling true atomic iodine.
dan friesen
So that's the big news.
jordan holmes
Well, I think the bigger news is that shit won't do anything for your teeth.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, it must be.
He's been taking it.
Yeah.
Well, whether or not it's sold as a tooth aid, I find it difficult to believe that Alex had a tooth extracted that morning and it's not affecting his speech at all.
It's possible, but it seems really weird.
Because, you know, you'd have numbing in the mouth and you'd have swelling.
you could you know you wouldn't want to be doing a ton of talking you'd risk dry socket issues there's all kinds of reasons why this would be unadvisable he He's been practicing this for years, though.
jordan holmes
What do you think got his neck so big?
He's been chewing cotton balls in the back of his molar since he's maybe onto something.
He keeps accidentally swelling him.
dan friesen
My perspective is you got mouth surgery and you're a talker.
Take a day.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
Take a day.
unidentified
Maybe.
jordan holmes
He was in family court the other day.
dan friesen
But the reason that I think that maybe he's not lying, the reason I think it could be true is that, you know, ways back, an old podcast I used to do, I had a root canal, and then I came immediately and did a show.
jordan holmes
No shit.
dan friesen
So, like, it is possible, but I do think my voice was pretty altered because of the massive swelling and shit.
But I don't know.
Anyway, Alex said, fucking.
jordan holmes
He's got the goods.
dan friesen
Just take the day off, man.
jordan holmes
You can't take the day off.
dan friesen
You've got to.
jordan holmes
InfoWar.
dan friesen
All right.
So in this next clip, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I'm not sure what Alex thinks about Kennedy.
jordan holmes
Which Kennedy?
dan friesen
John.
jordan holmes
I am interested to know.
dan friesen
I'm not sure what Alex's take is on the assassination.
I know it's a conspiracy.
jordan holmes
False flag.
dan friesen
Maybe.
I don't know what his specific take on it is because Roger Stone's certainly written a book about it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And Alex has talked about a bunch of things about E. Howard Hunt and the bums on the knoll and whatever.
But like, I've not really heard a coherent version of what he thinks the conspiracy is, especially not one that's consistent.
jordan holmes
I think he's going to come out with John F. Kennedy jumped into the bullet, and that's why it was so magical.
Because he was jumping straight into the bullet.
dan friesen
JFK was Antifa.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
False flagging himself.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Not so much.
dan friesen
Not so much.
This next clip, Alex discusses the assassination.
And boy, this doesn't make sense.
alex jones
Folks are starting to pay attention to it.
Last night, I text messaged folks that I know that have worked for the CIA and the FBI and other places, a couple different people.
And they said, I've never seen 7277.
I said, look at this.
I said, I'm a CIA.gov link talking about it.
jordan holmes
So real quick, you've never been to our website.
dan friesen
He's talking about Memorandum 7277, which is the Cold War-era proposal from the State Department about trying to de-escalate the Cold War.
We talked about it a bunch in the past, but just to clarify.
alex jones
And if one thing got Kennedy killed, it was this.
You know, I don't think Kennedy overall was a bad guy, that he was really buying into this world government business.
He did buy into the gun confiscation plan, and it got him killed.
It was the last straw when they finally said he's dead.
And a lot of people that meant well were involved in killing Kennedy.
What?
But then it was an even more evil globalist group that was behind trying to get Kennedy to do the gun confiscation that was opening up China, had this new order plan that he was actually opposing.
So that's why this gets so sophisticated and so complex.
We would have been a lot better off if they hadn't killed Kennedy.
dan friesen
Okay.
So I didn't expect Alex's angle to now be that some good guys in the government decided to kill JFK because they meant well when they assassinated the president.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They're going to do that because he supported gun confiscation.
That was the last straw for them.
jordan holmes
That meant well.
dan friesen
Also, there were bad guys and the government killed him.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Something to do with China or whatever.
jordan holmes
It's bipartisan.
dan friesen
What is this fucking bizarre?
Alex could say that that's complex and sophisticated, but what it actually is, is stupid and convoluted.
alex jones
Yes.
dan friesen
So the CIA.gov link that Alex sent to his buddies who pretend to be inside sources is not the CIA talking about Memorandum 7277 being real or a plan to disarm the citizens.
It's a link to a CIA posting in their reading room of an issue of the Minutemen's newsletter on Target from 1963, which presents 7277 as a plan to disarm the public.
This proves nothing, and it's from the Minutemen.
jordan holmes
So they were even talking about the Minutemen, a anti-communist nutjob group.
Yeah, yeah, who are talking about it like this.
They're not talking about it.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
They're like, look at these right-wing ding-dongs.
Right.
dan friesen
It was one of the things in their newsletter that was about the plan to disarm citizens.
This is a link that Alex would have sent.
It doesn't mean anything.
So also, JFK was assassinated on November 22nd, 1963, whereas Memorandum 7277 was written and released in September 1961.
So I guess what Alex is saying is that the State Department put out this memo about desires to decrease hostilities between two major powers who could destroy the world if they went to war.
And this was the last straw for the good guys question Mark, who decided to wait over two years to kill JFK as punishment for this memorandum, which did nothing and clearly didn't succeed in de-escalating the Cold War and happened to line up with exactly when the evil globalists were going to kill them.
And that means that the good guys who mean well and the evil globalists got together on this plan to kill the president, even though one group wants to kill him for supporting gun regulation and the other wants to kill him for not supporting guns.
jordan holmes
This makes no sense.
unidentified
It's a comical.
jordan holmes
They're not even doing it together.
They both just happen to come upon on the same day.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And they showed up and they're both standing right on either side of shit.
dan friesen
I mean, there's bad JFK conspiracies, but I've never heard anything quite like this.
This is impressively bad.
jordan holmes
Now, admittedly, the globalists are always at least 10 years behind.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
So they were probably planning to kill JFK before he was even president.
dan friesen
That could be.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what makes sense.
dan friesen
I don't know if they were 10 years behind in the 60s, though.
I think they've gotten increasingly behind since.
jordan holmes
You've been 10 years behind since the Knights 100.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
They were right on schedule.
This is sloppy and lazy, even for Alex.
Like, what are you saying makes absolutely no sense?
And I guarantee that if Roger Stone weren't keeping a low profile at the moment, he'd come in there and slap Alex around for saying this kind of foolishness on air.
This is embarrassing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's bad.
dan friesen
Yeah, pretty bad.
So Alex gets in this next clip.
I mentioned that he wants to take calls, but he's trying to get people from a null set to call in.
And you'll hear that here.
alex jones
But what I want to do today is I want to open the phones up for leftists who've woken up to tell their stories.
People that were in Antifa, people that were in the Congress Party, people that were in Black Lives Matter, to call in and tell us your story of what you witnessed and what you saw.
dan friesen
Good luck with getting those callers from your audience, Alex.
I don't know if that's going to happen.
jordan holmes
So it needs to be a simultaneous info warrior and former Antifa member.
dan friesen
Or communists.
jordan holmes
Or Black Lives Matter.
Gotcha, gotcha.
dan friesen
And also, Alex opens it up a little bit more.
There's other folks that he'd like to talk to.
And I don't believe him for a second on this one.
alex jones
Also, I want to open the phones up for leftists that really do think Trump's bad and really do think that abolishing the police is a good idea.
jordan holmes
Me.
alex jones
And who really think that the Democrats and the globalists have your best interest at heart?
Respectfully hear from you if you seriously disagree.
dan friesen
I think that there's a distinction here.
I'd like to respectfully hear from you.
I'm not going to be respectful.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
I'm not going to be respectful.
jordan holmes
I already disagree with you in advance.
There is no point to this conversation.
dan friesen
I will treat you with rank disrespect.
But I need respect from you.
Yeah.
Yeah, I can't imagine anybody listening to his show, fitting those descriptions, and then being like, yeah, that's a good idea for me to call Alex.
I can imagine someone fucking with him, maybe, but that's about it.
That's the best you're going to get.
jordan holmes
I think one of the, even then, one of those pretty much excludes the other two, right?
Like, you can't be a leftist who really believes in abolishing the police and think that the Democratic Party has your best interests in mind.
They have no interest in abolishing the police or right.
dan friesen
But in Alex Jones' world, the Democrats want to abolish the police and want to defund police departments.
Nancy Pelosi is leading the charge on the story.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
The black and white, simplistic version of what's going on in InfoWars land sort of requires that expression.
jordan holmes
I suppose.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I can see how, for you, that makes no sense.
jordan holmes
It makes no sense.
dan friesen
But for an Alex Jones listener, they'd be like, yeah, that must be what those sort of people are like.
jordan holmes
That's true.
Biden is a communist socialist.
I'm coming to take your guns.
Hard Marxist.
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex talks a little bit about the current situation a little bit, vis-a-vis George Floyd.
And I think that you can kind of sense a lot of Alex's universal feelings about situations like these, and then also him starting to get in line with what I assume is going to be a lot of what the right wing has to say about this.
alex jones
But he's now the patron saint.
They've actually got a funeral going on with him as a saint, as an angel with wings.
Ladies and gentlemen, maybe we can back that up five minutes and show the viewers.
But this is ridiculous.
I'm sad he's dead.
jordan holmes
Doesn't sound like it.
alex jones
I figure he is not.
And I'm not taking on the guilt of the police officers that have all been indicted.
What is it, five of them that were there?
I didn't do that.
dan friesen
So I'm not going to be made to feel guilty about anything ever is just consistent Alex Jones pathology.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Essentially.
jordan holmes
Yeah, when Jesus died, Alex is like, Pontius Pilate knew exactly what he was doing.
I got no interest in being involved with this shit.
dan friesen
And the other thing, too, is that I'm noticing a real trend of leaning towards the insistence that George Floyd wasn't a good person or whatever.
jordan holmes
It's more fine for him to be killed.
dan friesen
That is exactly right.
That seems to be the angle of attack that you're seeing a bit more.
I'm seeing this in some of the right-wing news sources.
And now Alex, and it's just a cheap trick, and it's meaningless.
It's ultimately meaningless.
Whether they're right or wrong, which I don't believe a lot of the things that they're saying in particular, but whether they're right or wrong is irrelevant to the larger situation.
So great.
jordan holmes
No, we see this play out every fucking time.
Once it's like they even have almost a time stamp on it where it's like, okay, a week after the murder, people will be emotionally distant from it enough for us to be like, all right, he was obviously an evil guy, right?
Like we're all fine.
Now that we're all mad and we're all done with that, let's just get together and realize that the cop should be able to kill him.
dan friesen
And if we can manage it like earlier on, let's try and say now is not the time to politicize the people.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, we don't want to politicize things.
dan friesen
You know, if we're able to pull that off, let's do that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a it's cheap.
jordan holmes
Either way, let's be disingenuous.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So now we get to a story that is actually fairly, I'd say, I would say it's tragic.
I mean, the person isn't dead, so it's not as tragic as it could have ended up being.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But it's certainly bad.
And Alex is going to use this as a perfect example to demonize all protesters.
alex jones
Meanwhile, shock video police say leftist lawyer, George Floyd protester, shot driver in the head.
The guy's in the truck.
He doesn't drive over him.
He just stops, shoots him in the head.
And look at the satisfaction on the face of your TV viewer of the liberal lawyer.
He is a hero.
He shot a man in the head on video who stopped at a stop sign.
He's a hero.
And the left is celebrating him, saying, you know what?
That truck tried to run him over when it didn't.
But see, it's all about, oh, a lady had a heart attack and died in Charlottesville.
Oh, a guy drove a car into a crowd.
Let's just go jump in front of cars and recreate that to again create the civil war.
Let's just start attacking people on highways and beating them up like all the footage we've caught on tape.
dan friesen
So what you have here is: this is a situation out of what is the name of the city, Alamosa in Colorado.
I found the video that was released by KRDO Local News, and it absolutely does not look good.
And if you're basing your conclusion entirely on the video, it definitely looks like this guy, James Marshall, was way out of line.
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, he shot somebody.
Yes.
He's way out of fucking line.
Yeah.
Zero context around that.
dan friesen
There were about 12 protesters in a small town called Alamosa lining an intersection at a crosswalk.
A black truck pulls up, and it does appear that he's trying to drive through the intersection.
There's a distinction, though, in that he doesn't appear to be putting any of the protesters in danger.
He is at a complete stop, and from the video, he appears to be inching forward a little bit, but not in a way that would run anyone over or hurt anyone.
That's not cool, and definitely not something I would appreciate someone doing, but there's a big difference between that and someone speeding towards people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So then, as he's coming through the intersection, you see a guy appear to shoot him through the window.
And, I mean, the guy is a fucked-up mess.
jordan holmes
No, that's fucked up.
dan friesen
There's no honestly, I don't know all the details about the situation at this point since the investigation is still ongoing.
But the guy who did the shooting has been arrested and he's charged with multiple crimes, including attempted murder.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
I've not seen any indication that anyone is calling him a hero.
And I suspect that either Alex is making that up because it's what he wants his audience to think the left believes, or he's basing it on a couple random tweets that his intern found, which mean nothing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I'm not entirely sure.
This is a tragic situation.
Like I said, the guy who got shot isn't dead, and that's great.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's a positive.
But yeah, I've not heard anyone say this guy is a hero or that this is hooray.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
If Alex wants to point me in the direction of those op-eds, I'd be willing to reconsider this, but I can't find anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would be, and I would be hard-pressed to see anybody, you know, you can justify property damage, but nobody on the left at these protests would ever condone that kind of shit.
dan friesen
I can't imagine it.
jordan holmes
No, that's horrific.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And at the Unite the Right rally, Heather Hayer didn't die from heart attacks.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
That is a neo-Nazi talking point that Alex is repeating as a way of trying to make it better that they were Floyd actually died and there were possible intoxicants inside of his system.
So yada, yada.
So that's all bullshit, but it's going to work for Alex.
It's going to allow him to completely write off almost every sort of protest that it's meaningless, ultimately, but it'll work for his audience.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's going to be.
jordan holmes
There will always be a what about for Alex.
dan friesen
We're going to hear this story a lot.
jordan holmes
30 times.
dan friesen
Yes, I'm certain they will hear it for a while.
jordan holmes
Every episode, at least, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex gets his first caller that is presumably an ex-leftist.
And I got some red flags on this.
jordan holmes
Oh, let's hear it.
unidentified
I'm a little bit nervous.
alex jones
Well, don't be nervous.
unidentified
I think I've called in several times since I started listening in 2011, and I ended up hanging up because of the long wait, but I was really rather pleasantly surprised at how long I didn't have to this time.
dan friesen
So first red flag.
She's been an Alex Jones listener since 2011.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Not sure exactly how this works.
Now, that would be all right.
I'm like, yeah, maybe you were deeply involved in stuff prior to 2011 or whatever.
But then she said something else that really was like, wait a second.
unidentified
My last stint with the peace and justice movement was back in 2003 when we were bombing whatever.
I'm still a little bit nervous.
What were we doing?
jordan holmes
When we were bombing.
dan friesen
When we were bombing.
jordan holmes
Statute of limitations is passed.
I'm just going to let you guys know right now.
dan friesen
What country was that?
jordan holmes
We were bombing.
dan friesen
First of all, that indicates to me that maybe she wasn't all that invested or all that involved if she doesn't remember what fucking country she was protesting against us bombing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It seems like maybe she was a little checked out.
Also, I got massive red flags on anybody who claims to be an anti-war demonstrator who stops in 2003.
The moment that we go to war in Iraq.
jordan holmes
We lost.
You absolutely anti-war protest right up until we go to war.
And then you're like, well, we lost this one.
I guess I'll quit.
dan friesen
That's kind of ridiculous.
jordan holmes
And it's very ridiculous.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
It's maybe the most insane thing that somebody could say.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So you have a situation where this caller is presenting themselves as being an ex-person of the left or whatever.
And they're just like, yeah, you know, I was anti-war until the war started.
And then I've been listening to you for like a decade.
All right.
You don't count.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you don't count.
No, no, no.
Whatever leftist credentials you think you have, you don't.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex gets another caller.
And don't think this guy's person's much better.
unidentified
Was hanging around with some of the WSA guys, the Workers' Solidarity Alliance, and Boon Out Bombs people.
And the whole Occupy Wall Street thing hanging around those people just disgusted me.
I woke up after 9-11 when I was 16 years old.
I knew that wasn't a, I just knew that it wasn't a real thing.
You know, I could just tell.
That's whenever I found you in high school.
dan friesen
So is he.
So now here's the deal.
That guy found Alex Jones because he had questions about 9-11 in high school, which predates Occupy.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
What were you?
How on the left were you if you were a huge InfoWars fan who got disgusted by Occupy after being an Ox Jones?
unidentified
So on the left.
Still on the left.
dan friesen
What the fuck is going on?
jordan holmes
He's disgusted with the people at Occupy Wall Street.
dan friesen
I don't know about this.
jordan holmes
They were doing so much.
They were the 9-11 of Occupying Wall Street.
dan friesen
Okay, whatever.
This is the kind of caller that you're going to get calling in when you put out these sorts of, like, this is the person I want to talk to.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So let's go to another one.
This person's ridiculous.
unidentified
I was 19 when I voted for Obama.
I loved America.
I loved my country.
And I thought, I believed Obama.
He was very convincing.
And it was during Benghazi.
The media didn't tell the truth.
And I saw they didn't tell the truth with information that was coming out.
You could watch videos on it.
The different men that were over there, you know, contradicted what the media was saying happened.
And I started doing research, and I found you.
I watched Endgame.
I probably watched Endgame like 20 times.
I share it to everybody I know.
dan friesen
Oof.
So that's the other leftist whose leftist credentials are they voted for Obama and now they've watched Endgame 20 times.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
If you could watch that once and not be like, Hold on.
jordan holmes
I lost my mind.
I literally lost my mind.
I didn't jokingly lose my mind.
It was gone.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's something that you could passively watch once.
If you're not thinking and maybe you're high, like you could get through it and be like, whoa.
jordan holmes
Yeah, man, that road is a real issue.
dan friesen
It's not all about a road, just mostly about a road.
But you could watch it and not have alarm bells go off unless you're critically engaged with it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And if you are, you're like, hold the fucking phone.
If you've seen it 20 times, I don't even know what to say.
jordan holmes
It's as good as Avengers.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you that right now.
dan friesen
Well, I've not seen Avengers.
jordan holmes
No, it's not that great.
dan friesen
So she got radicalized by Benghazi.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, could you say that one more time?
dan friesen
I will later.
So, yeah, her whole left bona fide is that she voted for Obama.
I don't understand what's going on here.
I don't know.
This well of callers is just, this is what you get.
It's comical.
These people are all fucking weirdo info warriors who maybe dipped their toe into something slightly Democratic Party adjacent.
Maybe, and think that they're goddamn Antifa.
It's weird.
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Very weird.
jordan holmes
The people I am now most afraid of are anybody.
Anytime I hear, like, I did some research, I'm like, I shut off.
I'm done.
I'm out on whatever you think research is.
I'm out.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, it is.
Well, I mean, as long as in a climate where watching YouTube videos and reading QAnon posts, that's what you got to do.
You got to be a little bit careful.
So in this next clip, Alex gets takes a break from some calls to complain about GoFundMe.
jordan holmes
He's got a whine.
alex jones
David Dorn in St. Louis, a 77-year-old retired police captain who got shot dead trying to stop looting.
He's black.
He's raised less than $50,000 on his GoFundMe.
Still working at 77 for his family.
But don't worry.
George Floyd has raised over $13 million.
That's virtue signaling for you right there.
dan friesen
Okay.
So one of the unfortunate things that happens in the age of GoFundMe-based community support is that it's a system that's very vulnerable to scams.
The St. Louis police released a statement themselves warning that there were multiple fake fundraisers for David Dorn.
And according to a June 3rd article in Fox News, quote, police say none of the pages have been authorized by his family, and authorities are in the process of taking them down.
The GoFundMe page that Alex is referring to that has under $50,000 donated to it is actually one of the pages that's listed as an example of a scam fundraiser that authorities are trying to get removed in an article on the website of KMOX out of St. Louis.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but Alex would see trying to stop scammers as also virtue signal.
unidentified
Probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So one of the reasons that the family may not be authorizing GoFundMe pages is because Backstoppers donated $50,000 to the family to help in this hard time.
Backstoppers is an organization that provides aid for families of police, firefighters, and paramedics who were hurt or killed.
So they have a support network already in place.
I'm not certain that this amount covers all their expenses or anything like that, but it's likely a relevant factor in them not needing to crowdsource all of their assistance.
Alex is trying to present this as a case of no one caring about David Dorne, but in reality, this is a situation where a bunch of people, who knows who, decided to exploit a tragedy and profit off it.
Alex has no idea what the reality of the situation is.
So, in effect, he's lamenting that a fraudulent crowdfunding campaign didn't make enough money, which is nuts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a weird thing to do.
dan friesen
Yeah, very strange.
jordan holmes
Very strange.
dan friesen
The official George Floyd GoFundMe page has raised almost $14 million at this point.
But my response to that is: so what?
jordan holmes
Yeah, great.
dan friesen
What do you hooray?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
dan friesen
You'd have to.
jordan holmes
$14 million isn't worth a human life, so fuck you.
dan friesen
Yeah, well, there's that.
And he had five children.
There's expenses that are needed for helping them.
Sure.
No.
There's a possibility.
I don't know what the accounting of that money is, and it's not my business.
But you would assume that probably at least some of it is going to go into charitable causes.
I don't see that as like, haha, the family made $14 million.
It's like Alex is trying to present.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there will be plenty of things done in his honor with that money.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex gets a caller.
This next caller.
Pretty impressive, I'll say.
I don't know if I agree with everything this caller says, but where he starts, pretty good.
dre in chicago
People talk about systematic racism in America, and they don't really, like, I don't hear no leaders, nobody talk about this as far as how generational wealth black people never got a chance to experience generational wealth because of what we went through throughout the history of America.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
dre in chicago
And that's really what's causing the, I mean, what's the effect of what we're saying right now in black communities and, you know, the bad things that we're going through.
alex jones
I agree with you is that it's the generational wealth system.
That's why Trump has talked about tax credits for black businesses that are new to not pay taxes for, say, 10 years.
dre in chicago
What?
jordan holmes
Of course you haven't.
alex jones
That's what Trump has been proposing.
They're trying to block it.
dan friesen
Trying to block it.
jordan holmes
When?
dan friesen
What?
Yeah.
Also, 100% eating.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Are you telling me that he got a molar removed and now he's eating something that is very clearly chewy?
That is something that he is, he's not sipping a drink.
That's something still in there.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
That is an egg roll, if I ever heard one.
dan friesen
That's suspicious.
Yeah.
Also, not charging these businesses tax for 10 years is not the same thing necessarily as solving the problem of how black wealth has been attacked and destroyed for generations.
And more importantly, I can find no evidence that Trump suggested this or is good God, no.
And let me ask you, George, do you believe for a second that people like Alex, who think affirmative action is a brutal attack on whites, would hear Trump come out and say that black business owners don't have to pay taxes for a decade, but white business owners do, and their response would be like, hey, it's a great idea.
No fucking chance.
Alex would call that globalist reparations or some shit.
And then it's a plan to keep the white man poor.
Alex just made this up because he's eating, and he has absolutely no response to the very real point this caller is making.
So he decides to make something up that he should be totally opposed to, but Alex thinks will placate the caller and be like, oh, I haven't heard about that.
Of course you haven't.
jordan holmes
Of course he has.
It's not real.
dan friesen
Alex just pretends it's not.
jordan holmes
Did you hear that Trump proposed giving every black person $100,000 tomorrow?
And Democrats are trying to block it.
dan friesen
Your mouth doesn't sound full enough for food, so your impression is off.
So Alex gets another caller.
That caller had nothing to do with being formally on the left.
It was more just about this point.
But this caller is apparently a creature of the left.
jordan holmes
Oh, hey there, Jonesy.
unidentified
Can you keep your mouth shut to let me get my point across quickly?
alex jones
Well, you sound like a nasty leftist, but go ahead, please.
You called.
unidentified
Is that Millie?
Well, I just can't believe you.
Tell you, hold on.
alex jones
I got an onion ring right here.
They went and got me from one of my favorite places called Dan's.
So while you sit there and talk, I'm ate the Zay.
unidentified
No, no, you're already got me off.
dre in chicago
It's okay.
dan friesen
I knew that was going to happen.
You're going to eat anyway.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was pretty obvious.
dre in chicago
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this caller is, you know, of the left.
jordan holmes
Eating an onion ring with an open molar?
Are you shitting me?
That is going to really sting.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're going to get dry sockets.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's going to be real bad.
dan friesen
So this caller goes on, and this mic down for this, because this is a ride.
unidentified
Now, I've done a little research into your info lawyers.
And what happened to the old Firepower News?
Where's your old black anchor, huh?
Huh?
You racist?
alex jones
That's right.
I'm very, very racist because we ended up not doing Firepower News due to lack of crew.
And we've been trying to hire more crew, and it still hasn't worked out.
That's why for at least a month or two, we're going to have to suspend doing the latest show.
We're doing Barnes.
The show is very popular.
We just haven't been able to hire the crew or get the crew.
We're probably going to suspend that for about two months until the election so we can bring Countdown America back with Barnes.
And of course, I'm being racist against Barnes as well.
We've had a big crew problem getting enough high-quality crew in here to run the show.
So if I hire a black guy and have him on as a guest, and then we do a show as a test, and then we have to stop the show for a while, that is inherently bad.
So I mean, this is like real weird leftist ideology.
You're like calling in to say that I've engaged in an evil racist act.
Tell me more about what I did.
unidentified
I'm totally messing with you.
I follow the shit.
I use bodies.
I use the Tuesdays.
It's all awesome.
I was just messing with you.
alex jones
All right.
I appreciate your call, Jack.
We're not trying to make jokes about this.
dan friesen
So that's lame.
Yeah.
But this caller who thinks they're pulling a stunt accidentally kind of highlighted a bit of proof that Alex is making stuff up to cover his own racist ass.
So this caller jokingly accuses Alex of being racist for stopping the show Firepower, which featured his only black on-air talent, Will Johnson.
Alex claims that he stopped doing that show because they couldn't find the crew.
It's just a crew thing.
But in his defense, he actually disproves his own claim.
While he's trying to defend himself, Alex disproves this.
Barnes' show started after Firepower ended.
Whatever crew Barnes is using could easily be handling Firepower, so the crew excuse just doesn't work.
For some reason, Alex did not value Firepower as much as he values the possibility of doing another show.
But it gets worse.
The other host of Firepower was Tom Pappert.
If you go to bam.video, you'll see an entire section of the site dedicated to Tom Pappard and his dumb blog, National File.
Will Johnson, the other host of Firepower, still runs his own thing called Unite America First, which there are no links to on Bam.video.
unidentified
None.
dan friesen
None.
Will still has his own YouTube channel, and he's posted stuff that sounds really Alex Jonesy as recently as today.
There is absolutely no reason that his self-produced content couldn't still be platformed on banned.video unless there's another reason that Alex isn't doing so.
alex jones
I can think of one.
dan friesen
I'm not saying this is proof of Alex being racist, although he is, but it definitely calls into question the argument that he didn't have the crew to keep Will around.
Meme World, Tommy Robinson, David Ike, and Caitlin Bennett, they all have pages on banned.video, and those are just third-party produced content.
So it's really suspicious that Will Johnson doesn't have a page himself.
It could be a personal thing.
I can imagine Alex sucks to work with, but I don't believe the crew thing at all.
And honestly, I think that what happened was at one of these Trump rallies, Will Johnson was the guy who got interviewed by like CBS News, and then it got really embarrassing when everyone pointed out that was an Infowars reporter that you interviewed, and he didn't announce himself as an InfoWars reporter.
I think that was really not good.
And maybe Will Johnson was like, if it's going to be bad for me to express my opinion or whatever, I don't want to be associated.
I could see that being the case.
jordan holmes
Honestly, my first thought is less anything to do with Alex, because I think he actually would really love having a black host that he do the whole thing with.
But it's probably more an indictment of how racist InfoWars viewers are.
How could you sustain a show that nobody's watching because everybody who's on InfoWars is a fucking racist?
alex jones
I don't know.
dan friesen
Ask Owen.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Owen watches his shit.
That's fair.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
That is fair.
You're right.
Never mind.
Alex is a giant racist piece of shit.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
So are InfoWars viewers.
It's a whole team.
dan friesen
Look, dude, I would say that based on viewership and whatever you're putting in versus what you're getting out in terms of ratings and all that stuff, you have every reason to cancel that show.
If you're just using it on a straight calculus, I don't see that being a racist decision in and of itself, although not canceling Owen or David Knight's shows probably sketchy, but they've been around forever.
So, you know, you could grandfather them into the allowed to be bad ranks or whatever.
But it's more notable to me that he doesn't have a page on banned.video and Tom Papert does.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think it is.
dan friesen
That's a little strange to me.
jordan holmes
I think you're very much right.
dan friesen
Now, the only thing that makes this really suspicious to me is this clearly fake excuse about we didn't have the crew.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's bullshit.
jordan holmes
That's nonsense.
dan friesen
That to me is like, okay, Alex.
jordan holmes
That's nonsense.
dan friesen
Also, that gag was the most predictable thing ever.
That dude playing a little character.
You hear that voice and you're like, come on, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Trying to get leftists and former leftists to call into his show doesn't work.
You just get people who think they were leftists because they supported anti-war causes until a war started.
And Infowars fans pretending they're on Comedy Bang Bang.
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would be very surprised for a leftist to call in and then provide Alex a platform to advertise his other shows and do so very quietly and patiently.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex gets another caller, and this guy has some suspicions about Mike Pence because Mike Pence is apparently too kind and too nice to beat Budijudge.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Pence has said good things about Buddy Judge.
unidentified
Well, yeah, like when Buddha Jej was getting up in the polls, you know, they asked Pence about a couple things that Buddha Jeze had said, and he just said that he was like a nice guy and that they had worked together on a couple different bills, you know.
And I'm not saying he should talk bad about him or anything, but like, I don't know.
I just don't know if I trust Pence because, I mean, honestly, I feel like if Rand Paul was the vice president, more people would come to his base, you know.
alex jones
I like Rand Paul more than Pence.
You say you're a Democrat, not Republican.
Tell us about that.
dan friesen
Alex is still eating.
This is another call.
jordan holmes
How much is he going to eat today?
This is bad.
dan friesen
This is three callers long that he's been eating.
It's tragic.
jordan holmes
Hey, buddy, don't worry about Pence.
He still wishes that Buddhaj would die and God would smite him.
He's just a nice guy until then.
dan friesen
This is ridiculous.
So Alex asks, like, you know, you used to be on the left.
Sure.
What happened?
unidentified
I just feel like right around the time of Benghazi and what are we fucking doing?
You know, to how Obama just really wasn't saying what he meant.
You know, he was just kind of, I feel like he was just reading lines and stuff.
And then right around that, Trump came out with the birther thing, and it kind of just woke me up a little bit.
Wow.
Wow.
Cool.
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
You know, oh, boy.
Benghazi, huh?
A lot of people do in Benghazi.
dan friesen
Birtherism.
jordan holmes
Birtherism in Benghazi.
It seems to be.
dan friesen
It's interesting that this sort of like unofficial poll seems to be showing that a lot of people lost their minds around Benghazi.
But it makes sense.
I mean, that was like an incredibly full court press kind of thing from people like Alex and all the right-wing media.
So it makes sense that it would have been like an effective campaign for them.
But maybe it's something I underestimate a little bit in terms of having a real transformative effect on a lot of people.
jordan holmes
Or if you were into birtherism, go fuck yourself.
dan friesen
Sure.
You were already, maybe you weren't that great to begin with.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe if you found that persuasive, maybe that means it's you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's yeah, yeah.
Like when Biden in the 70s was like, segregation's probably fine.
You know, he's not on the left.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So in this next clip, Alex is trying to get to Steve Pieczenik, but Skype ain't working.
Alex cannot figure out how to use Skype.
None of this.
jordan holmes
This is astonishing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's the only thing that makes me believe the crew for the crew thing is he couldn't even have a crew for his own show.
dan friesen
Well, they're there.
They're just not good.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He does actually complain that's like, we get these people who apply and then they find out that it's Alex Jones and they say no.
jordan holmes
Oh, what a surprise.
dan friesen
Yeah, what a shock.
I'm not working for you.
Get the fuck out of here.
So instead of talking to Steve, he does an entire segment pitching iodine.
alex jones
The new one, there's not even enough money in it to do 40% off or 50% off.
So here is the new write-up.
It's finally here.
Introducing the new survival shield X2 spray available for 33% off $19.95 intro pricing at InfowarStore.com.
Plus have been asking us for months to develop an iodine spray made with our exclusive deep earth crystal nascent iodine.
After extensive development, it's finally here.
Introducing the first of its kind, nascent iodine spray made with true atomic iodine.
Our proprietary new aerodyne technology allows us to harness the full power of ancient iodine crystals from below 7,000 feet in the Earth's surface in the ultimate spray formula.
I've been using X2 spray every day the last few months and I really feel good.
dan friesen
It's so weird to hear him do like a straight ad read like off a page.
But it's also weird how it has that testimonial there.
I've been taking it for a month and I feel very good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was also on the ad copy.
Yeah, that was not him breaking into editorializing.
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Very suspicious.
So we get to Steve.
Man.
jordan holmes
How's Steve doing?
Well, I missed him a little bit just because, you know, I think we should defund the government and only fund the police.
dan friesen
I mean, he does want to break down the entire State Department, pretty much everything about government.
You can't imagine why he wouldn't be in favor of police departments shrinking, but whatever.
I just think that he usually is the kind of kook who really swings.
He takes hard swings.
jordan holmes
He does.
dan friesen
And he's cranky, and sometimes he yells at Alex.
So there's an unpredictability to his appearances on the show that I can always appreciate.
This isn't the best appearance, but there are a couple things in here that are kind of interesting, I think, worthwhile.
And here is Alex saying hello.
alex jones
Dr. Steve Pieczenik of SteveMachinik.com, author, researcher, work in the State Department, psychological warfare, ransom of major operations, including regime change.
If he just joined us, I'd like him to start over so he's not up against the break with what we're witnessing with George Floyd, what the Democrats are doing, the bowing, the kneeling, the mask, all of this classic cult programming behavior, and what he expects them to pull next.
dan friesen
So that's the setup.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What we got going.
jordan holmes
What's he going to pull next?
dan friesen
Here's what Steve has to say about the entire situation that's going on in the world right now.
steve pieczenik
What we're really witnessing is a mad magazine version of agitation propaganda.
And the reason I say that with a smile is because I'm crazy.
He's not very bright.
Neither are the leaders of the Democratic Party.
And what you're seeing is a parody of what agitation propaganda is supposed to be.
People like myself who've been in the business of agitation propaganda, we normally create all kinds of disturbances and send things on fire.
And we know exactly what it is we want to do.
We want to polarize the country to the extent that the police force comes in and basically engages that populace in some form of covert or overt warfare.
In this case, it's a complete disaster.
dan friesen
Or maybe that's not what's happening.
Maybe your analysis is completely off.
Also, good to know that you went in and set fires in order to get police to beat up populists in various countries.
Good, Steve.
Proud of you.
Proud of you, Steve.
jordan holmes
He goes into a McDonald's like, this is the worst olive garden I've ever seen.
I can't believe these people are trying to do an olive garden in England.
dan friesen
I can't believe how incompetent they are at salad bars.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Where's the population?
Where are the breadsticks?
The breadsticks.
What are these?
What are these potato things that I'm seeing right here?
dan friesen
It's like saying, if this were agitation propaganda, it's being done terribly, but then you take the if off it.
Yeah, yeah.
So good.
Great work.
So Steve discusses this idea that, you know, this is all just agitation propaganda.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And he has one reason why this is a bad move.
steve pieczenik
In this case, it's a complete disaster.
Number one, George Floyd is the wrong example to deify or to make the key element of an agitation propaganda.
Number one, he's the felon.
He's a career felon.
What happened to him is unfortunate, but it happens to all the felons, whether they're white and black.
Police have to do what they have to do.
dan friesen
That argument is not good so far.
Apparently, police just have to kill felons.
jordan holmes
They got to do what they got to do.
dan friesen
They got to do it.
jordan holmes
If you commit a crime, you got to die.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's the rule.
dan friesen
You're a felon.
Got to die.
jordan holmes
It's not your fault.
It's not your fault.
You committed a crime and now the police kill you.
That's just normal behavior.
dan friesen
That's really fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's super fucked up.
dan friesen
So beyond that, Steve's argument that Floyd is the wrong victim to start an agitation propaganda campaign on might also be evidence of two things.
One, that this isn't an agitation propaganda campaign.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
And two, people aren't just mad about George Floyd.
This was a clear and flagrant example of something that's been a problem for a very long time, and it represented a tipping point for a lot of people.
Demonizing George Floyd may feel important for the right-wing propagandist ding-dongs, but it's really missing the forest for the trees.
Floyd could have had every drug in the world on him and been arrested as many times as you like in the past.
It still doesn't really affect how inappropriate the police actions were and how they attempted to sweep it under the rug.
Dwelling on whether or not George Floyd was a good enough person not to be killed is the definition of missing the point.
But it's crucial for people like Steve and Alex because on some level, I think they have to recognize that the protests are having results.
And I imagine that that makes them very scared.
jordan holmes
Oh, they don't really like it.
dan friesen
The best trick that they can think of is to attack the murder victim that they think that this is all about.
But it's not going to be effective in any way.
They can probably harden their base up a little bit with this and make them feel better for hating the protests and the protesters.
But I can't imagine anyone who understands what's going on being swayed by this at all and seeing it as anything other than like a complete disconnect from reality.
And if you want to play this game, choose another person who's been killed by the police.
jordan holmes
Holy shit.
dan friesen
Choose John Taylor.
jordan holmes
Fucking Philando Castile.
Choose stay in Minneapolis.
How many do we have in Minneapolis?
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, that's the point.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's the situation.
More realistically put, and Steve obviously couldn't say that about every single person.
No, no.
So, yeah, I don't know.
I think that Steve's a dumb-dumb, and this is stupid, but it's a way to try and use the veneer of his psych warfare nonsense to apply to the situation and be like, this is a classic old ring-a-ding.
He used to do this all the time back in Honduras or whatever.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, and it's just meaningless.
jordan holmes
Well, and it's even more dumb because that opens him up to, okay, fine.
You think Floyd is the wrong person.
Who's the right person?
And then you go down the fucking list and your point is made.
dan friesen
Well, you know?
Well, yeah, certainly.
That's one way to put it.
So Steve believes that all the old suspects are in the mix trying to create this agitation propaganda.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
steve pieczenik
Democrats came in.
The Obama people who are total sociopaths and quite ignorant, really, on how to create agitation propaganda are just from the covert part.
You've got the CIA elements.
You've got the FBI elements.
You've got some of the other elements within our deep state, which is you guys explained quite well.
Now, let me tell you who the leaders are.
dan friesen
None of that means anything.
jordan holmes
Nothing.
dan friesen
So now, do you want to know who some of the leaders are?
jordan holmes
I want to know who some of the leaders are.
steve pieczenik
Now, let me tell you who the leaders are.
First, you have Alan Sharpton.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Reverend Alan Sharpton.
dan friesen
Alan Sharpton?
jordan holmes
Everybody knows.
dan friesen
Have you ever heard anyone call him that?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
And you haven't, and you never will, because his name is short for Alfred.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, that's not his name.
What are you doing?
dan friesen
Yeah, come on, Steve.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Do better.
jordan holmes
You're doing a very bad job of agitation propaganda right now.
dan friesen
Do better, Steve.
Go write a book about Alan Sharpton and pretend Tom Clancy wrote it.
Anyway, in his next clip, Steve suggests something really troubling.
And it's couched in what begins kind of like sensibility.
It's bad.
alex jones
What do you make of the Secretary of Defense saying Trump's wrong?
And maybe Trump was wrong to say Insurrection Act.
He is wrong.
steve pieczenik
You know what?
He may have been wrong, but his job was to keep his mouth quiet.
dan friesen
So they're expressing that Trump may have been wrong to want to use the Insurrection Act, but Mark Esper should have shut his fucking mouth.
jordan holmes
Of course, you don't criticize anybody in power.
dan friesen
You don't want anybody in positions where they can make a difference to say something when something clearly wrong is being done.
jordan holmes
Wait until you retire and you've written a book.
Duh.
dan friesen
And then eventually say you were following orders to make yourself feel better.
jordan holmes
Because nobody ever remembers the Nuremberg trials.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, I don't know.
I honestly don't understand the perspective of like, yes, the president was considering and talking about doing something that would be dangerous and is completely wrong, but you should let him do it.
Well, of course.
Because he's your boss.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's all you, you know.
dan friesen
Can you imagine them making that argument in any other circumstance where it's like, fucking fall in line.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
That's what they do.
unidentified
When Benghazi happened, they should have fallen in line.
dan friesen
Shut your fucking mouth.
jordan holmes
God, I hate these people so much.
I hate them so much.
dan friesen
Are you going to hate them more in this next clip?
unidentified
I believe it.
dan friesen
Because the two of them get to talking about Kushner, Jared Kushner.
And I think this conversation could be described in one word.
jordan holmes
Anti-Semitic?
dan friesen
No, pathetic.
steve pieczenik
At the same time, he has to reconfigure some of his White House.
I don't want to get in the particulars, but he needs people who are a lot sharper like me.
alex jones
Well, he needs to get rid of Jared Kushner, doesn't he?
steve pieczenik
Well, everybody needs to get rid of family issues.
It's a very difficult thing.
alex jones
No, no, I've not been at war with Kushner, but I really trust Tucker Carlson.
And he's been on the inside, and he tells me that Kushner is literally the worst thing on the planet.
unidentified
All right.
steve pieczenik
I have no problem with that.
I say that up front, but that's his family.
But he has to get rid of Jared Kushner.
He has to get rid of Esper.
He has to rebuild a team that's not based on the neocons.
When he brought in George John Bolton, that was a very bad signal to me.
And in fact, he had to pay for that for many months later.
The issue now is he has to bring in economists and people who are involved in companies where they are big, the Boeings, the Lockheed Martins.
I don't care about the military-industrial complex.
It has to come back online.
dan friesen
This is wild.
Like, for people, for someone who's a quote-unquote respected expert on Alex Jones' show to be like coming in and being like, we need Lockheed Martin guys in the administration.
jordan holmes
This is bananas.
This is wild.
This is beyond wild.
dan friesen
All of Alex's documentaries include little selected clips of Eisenhower's speech about the military industrial complex.
jordan holmes
What are you guys doing?
What is happening?
dan friesen
We need to get Esper out and replace him with somebody from Lockheed Martin because Esper dared open his mouth when Trump was going to do something really bad.
jordan holmes
Unhinged.
Unhinged.
Let's get the Koch brothers.
I don't know which one of them is dead, but bring his ghost along too.
Let him run everything.
dan friesen
It's just, it's convoluted.
It makes no sense.
And I mean, I guess, honestly, the problem is that we're trying to hold on to a little bit of sanity while watching something that's increasingly insane.
And that's ultimately going to lead to this sort of friction of like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
You don't believe that?
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
What are you doing?
jordan holmes
That's nonsense.
dan friesen
In reality, if you were just listening to Alex's show and you believed him, at a certain point, you would have surrendered already.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Like, you would have given up and be just on.
jordan holmes
Fine.
dan friesen
You would be a subject of the tides of whatever is being talked about on the show.
jordan holmes
You would literally come to the end of 1984.
It's the last line.
dan friesen
I mean, I'm sure that Alex could find some.
I don't know, some document somewhere that he could make an argument that, oh, wait, we've been wrong all along.
The military industrial complex is good.
It's actually really good.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I mean, he's already said that globalism would be good if it was all under Trump.
jordan holmes
Well, of course it would.
The problem isn't the methods or anything.
It's just the people.
It's just the bad people, Dan.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
They're Satanists.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, look, dude, one of the things that we don't understand, no one understands, is that Trump gets things done.
jordan holmes
No, he doesn't.
dan friesen
Strongly disagree.
jordan holmes
You strongly disagree.
steve pieczenik
The reality of Trump is what the Democrats don't understand, and people like me and you do understand.
He gets things done.
He eliminated regulation.
He got our economy back on place.
For the first time in our history, we shot an American rocket.
Think of that.
An American rocket into space from an American site.
unidentified
That means for 40 years with the Bushes.
steve pieczenik
We had to use Russian rockets at the cost of $75 million each shot to go into space from Kazakhstan.
Here's the president of the United States says, you know what?
I'm going to make space war and I'm going to make NASA the most important we're making space war.
alex jones
He called Musk in and said, do it and cut the regulations.
steve pieczenik
And he did it.
dan friesen
All right.
You guys, you can't prove that Trump said, hey, Musk, do this.
Also, Elon Musk's rocket stuff long predates Trump being in office.
Now, that being said, I think you responded to a very fitting, appropriate thing, and that is that the anti-war people, presumably, are sitting here talking about space war.
jordan holmes
They're anti-Earth war, Dan.
Space war is fine.
Burn the atmosphere entirely, and then we only have to fight wars in space because everybody on Earth is dead.
dan friesen
Very dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's super smart.
dan friesen
Also, Steve's lying.
That was not the first U.S. launch in 40 years.
The last one was in 2011.
It's been nine years, and the last one was under Obama.
The space shuttle Atlantis took its last manned trip to the International Space Station on July 8th, 2011.
That was the third launch from the U.S. that year.
If you're including unmanned launches into this, then Atlas V launched on May 17th, 2020 out of Cape Canaveral.
So I have no idea what point Steve is trying to make here.
unidentified
You know what?
dan friesen
It kind of feels like Trump has gotten so little done that in order to make it seem like he's gotten a lot done, his stooges just make shit up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he has not done anything.
You've got deregulation and then you've got deregulation.
dan friesen
He's talked a lot of shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's talked a lot.
Well, I guess he's confirmed the worst number of judicial appointees that's ever been in history.
dan friesen
Weirdly, they don't bring that up.
I don't think they want people to pay attention to that.
jordan holmes
That's usually a bad idea to.
dan friesen
So apparently Trump told Elon Musk, hey, buddy, get that rocket up there.
jordan holmes
I don't think he did, but okay.
dan friesen
Well, apparently he did because they have a secret.
alex jones
And by the way, let me tell you this.
I'm sure you know this.
The guys that told me this were in the meeting.
I said, well, this is classified.
They said it's okay.
You can say they've got a deal, him and Musk, to actually, in like a year, they've already got robots up on the moon with these 3D printers, and they're already building a base on the dark side of the moon for the Martians.
steve pieczenik
That's what they told you, but that's correct.
They're going from that and they're going straight into Mars.
That's correct.
dan friesen
Okay.
So apparently Trump and Elon Musk have a secret Mars base.
jordan holmes
Trump has tried to build moon bases on many different album titles in the past.
You know, Starship.
Yeah, they were amazing, Jefferson Starship.
dan friesen
There is talk about like.
jordan holmes
He built this city on the dark side of the moon.
I believe that was the name of the song.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Distant down-the-road kind of conversations about the possibility of building something on the moon.
But the idea that they're doing it now, I'm going to need a citation.
jordan holmes
I want medbeds.
Before we get a building on the moon, give me medbeds.
dan friesen
Also, I do think that this would be an international incident if Trump and Elon Musk were creating a base on the moon.
Because space is not owned by the United States.
There's a cooperative aspect to it.
jordan holmes
No, that's why they're building it on the dark side of the moon.
There's no way for Russia and China to get that kind of high-level information.
I mean, unless they were to listen to Alex Jones' fucking show.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Or notice from the International Space Station.
jordan holmes
Or have a telescope.
dan friesen
Right.
I think this is a load of shit, but it's fun.
jordan holmes
It is fun.
dan friesen
Also, kind of makes it a little bit sillier that Alex got mad that everybody thought he thought there was Mars bases because now there's a moon base.
jordan holmes
There's a moon base.
Yeah, yeah, why not?
Also, Moonraker.
Totally real.
dan friesen
Definitely.
Yep.
So, hmm.
Yeah, I got red flags on this, but Alex is not fucking around.
He's very serious.
alex jones
Jim, we're back in space.
America is going to release all these suppressed technologies, disruptive technologies, as they're called.
That's why a lot of the corrupt power structures are so upset.
But a lot of other groups are very, very excited.
And I was told by folks that were in the meetings with the president and Musk, and I was told, go ahead and talk about it, that they've already got a little base on the dark side of the moon.
They've got 3D printers ready.
They've got a bunch of other stuff to do a test rocket to Mars.
In the next couple of years, they're just going to announce it.
And then they're going to have man go.
And then the excitement around that is exactly what we need.
dan friesen
They've already got the base there.
Not it's being built.
It's already there.
This has already changed within the course of a couple of minutes.
Also, there's literally no way that Alex would be cleared to disseminate this information if this were something that was happening.
I certainly in a meeting with the president and Elon Musk, and they're like, hey, look, we got a base on the moon.
We got 3D printers up there and robots on there.
jordan holmes
Alex, go ahead and go for it.
Hey, yes, Alex.
Alex, come on.
dan friesen
Alex, we want you to randomly talk about this with Steve Pieczenik on your stupid radio show after you get mouth surgery and eat a bunch of onion rings.
jordan holmes
I'm starting to think they don't want to talk about how the protests have already accomplished more than Trump has in office.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's probably.
jordan holmes
I don't think they want to talk about that.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
It's a moon base.
dan friesen
These damn protests will not get a moon base.
jordan holmes
No, that's true.
dan friesen
They will not end in a moon base.
jordan holmes
It's possible.
dan friesen
So this is the end.
That's actually the last clip that we have because their interview sort of winds to an uneventful end, and then Paul Joseph Watson takes over for the fourth hour.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
So Alex, I mean, he did half shift.
And I honestly, because of the move and everything, and because Alex was out of studio, I was very seriously considering not doing an episode.
But when I heard Steve was on, I am like, it's the siren song.
It's got to be.
I inevitably get drawn to it.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
And it unfortunately didn't live up to what I wanted it to be, except for Alan Sharpton, of course.
That's pretty funny.
jordan holmes
That's pretty great.
dan friesen
But in the process, finding that string of calls was absurd.
And I was like, we could talk about this.
Granted, this is a little bit of a shorter episode, but that's how it goes when life is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're giving you a shorter episode or the correct length of an episode according to every other podcast in the world.
dan friesen
Yeah, perhaps.
I'm very tempted to get those coconut drinks and force another hour out of this, but I'm not going to.
So, yeah, I mean, I guess the message that I come away from this with, as I look at it through trying to see Alex within his context, I see a concerted effort to try and invalidate the protests and invalidate what he thinks is the core of it while he's missing the point entirely.
And to me, that suggests that he's worried about it.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And I mean, the stuff about really making a big deal out of the guy who shot the guy in the truck, you know, that obviously is something that does, you know, the guy should have the consequences that come to people who shoot people.
jordan holmes
He's an attempted murderer.
dan friesen
Yeah, but using that to be like, ah, they're all shooting guys in trucks or whatever.
That's pretty standard Alex behavior.
That kind of stuff is pretty normal features.
But the rest of this, I see a bit of fear in him.
And other than that, and I think that's what he's expressing when he's trying to get these calls from people who used to be in Antifa.
I think, one, he's seeing that Project Veritas did this queer bullshit piece that was a guy inside Antifa.
And he's like, ah, I could do that too.
Just a caller.
Someone will make something up.
And then no one does.
It's disappointing.
jordan holmes
He doesn't engender a lot of improv students in his audience.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
And then the other thing with those calls, too, is that trying to get the message that it's okay to come over here on this side.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And unfortunately, all the examples you get are people who are not indicative of like, hey, it's cool to come over here.
jordan holmes
I was fine.
I didn't think Obama was born here.
I still voted for him because you got to give it up to a guy who didn't even, who wasn't even born here becoming president.
dan friesen
And then Ben Ghazi.
jordan holmes
And then Ben Ghazi.
And what?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Why is Benghazi such a thing for people?
dan friesen
Who knows?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
So we'll be back on Friday, but until then, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's KnowledgeFight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're all on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are all on Twitter.
It's at Knowledge Entertainment.
Now, go to Bed.
dan friesen
Jordan.
We are also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are visible.
If you could please find a local bail fund or charity in your area to help take care of people.
unidentified
We'll be back.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Alan Sharpton.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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