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Feb. 26, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#403: February 24, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the last episode of The Alex Jones Show before Alex takes off for a week out of town trying to get attention by bullhorning people around CPAC. In this installment, Alex talks to three jerks and spends most of his time trying to sell his survival food.

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alex jones
14:59
d
dan friesen
01:01:07
j
jordan holmes
18:18
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mike adams
02:03
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nick fuentes
01:29
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joel skousen
00:35
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unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan?
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question.
dan friesen
What up?
jordan holmes
What is the fastest you've ever completed a game?
Like, from when you got a video game to when you finished it?
What do you think the quickest you've ever done that is?
dan friesen
It's weird for me because different games...
You have to get everything.
I think, I mean, the Assassin's Creed Odyssey, I think I finished pretty quickly.
unidentified
Yeah, the main story.
dan friesen
I was playing that quite a bit.
Yeah, and I would say that probably took about a week or so.
jordan holmes
Yeah, a week sounds good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, I put like over a hundred hours into Assassin's Creed Odyssey across the whole playthrough.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
I am currently playing Horizon Zero Dawn.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Because I went down to the old GameStop and I was just staring blankly at the games.
On the wall.
And the person who's working there, she came up to me and was like, what are you looking for?
I'm like, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I'm a tabula rasa of need.
Just help me.
dan friesen
She's like, what do you like?
I'm like, well, I enjoy the Assassin's Creed, but I didn't like that you didn't have like homestead, building up your home or whatever.
And she ignored that second part and just advised.
She was like, have you played this?
Have you tried this?
And I was like, nope.
I have no idea what that is.
And it was $9.
So I was like, yes.
jordan holmes
Take a flyer out of it.
dan friesen
And I even told her this.
I was like, it's cheap enough that if I hate it, I'm not going to be mad at you.
So I will take that shot.
And I think it's fantastic.
I'm really enjoying it.
jordan holmes
If I don't like it, I'll throw it away.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think it's fantastic.
I really enjoy this game.
It's very fun.
You had to run around.
It's a big, big world.
unidentified
Big world?
jordan holmes
Open?
dan friesen
More or less.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm not much of, like, I wouldn't be somebody that you would call a gamer.
I don't have, like, a lot of...
Knowledge or sophistication.
But if you give me a game where I can run around, there's a mystery to solve, there's side quests, I can get completely distracted by things, there's variability in the things you're doing.
So sometimes you're fighting something, and then sometimes maybe you're solving a puzzle where you've got to go up a cliff.
jordan holmes
Breath of the Wild kind of stuff.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
You give me that, I'm going to be satisfied.
jordan holmes
You're going to be happy.
dan friesen
Yes, absolutely.
And this ticks off all those boxes.
So I enjoy it.
jordan holmes
It has the Knowledge Fight seal of approval.
dan friesen
I'm honestly even like, I've been playing it a little bit and thinking like, eventually I'm gonna be done with it.
And that kind of bugs me out.
Now there's nothing else left.
jordan holmes
Oh god, no.
Ladies and gentlemen, you started playing it right now.
Oh no!
dan friesen
Guys, it's been Knowledge Fight.
I've been Neo.
No, this is a podcast where I don't really know too much about games, but I enjoy some.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I do know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I know a little about the former and nothing about the latter.
dan friesen
That's correct.
So, Jordan, today we got an episode in front of us where we're going over February 24th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 2020.
God damn it.
And I don't know.
There's a lot of, you know, it is what it is.
It's the present day Alex Jones episode.
We have to go over this.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Because after this, on the 25th and all through the end of the week, Alex Jones is going to be at CPAC.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
And I should say he's not going to be at CPAC.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He's not welcome.
jordan holmes
He's not invited.
unidentified
No, no.
jordan holmes
He will not be inside CPAC.
dan friesen
He might be outside yelling into a bullhorn.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So this is the last day before he takes off for his trip to be a dumbass and try and get Trump's attention desperately.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
And probably fail quite a bit.
And there's some interesting...
Interesting stuff along the way throughout this episode.
But I think that there are a couple things that are going to be a little bit repetitive and may seem a little bit like I'm driving a point home.
And that's because you are driving a point home.
Yes.
And we'll get to all that.
But before we do, Jordan, we're going to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
So first, Robert, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Robert.
dan friesen
Robbie.
Next, Christopher.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you, Cody.
dan friesen
Cody.
Next, Finan.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Finan.
alex jones
Finny.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Josie.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you very much.
And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody...
jordan holmes
I am finding this endlessly enjoyable.
dan friesen
I'd like to say thank you to someone donated on an elevated level.
Appreciate that very much.
So, Adam B., thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare...
Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Adam B. Yes, thank you very much.
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy this show, I'd like to support these gents, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, we would appreciate it.
jordan holmes
It'd be very helpful.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we start off today.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And on the 24th, on Monday, there was news, and that was that the Dow had fallen.
alex jones
CNBC, you can see the CNBC numbers there on the markets.
The S&P is down 102.
The Nasdaq down 344.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average now down 924.
The FTSE down 247.
The Nikkei 92 plus.
The HSI down 487.
Shanghai down 8.44.
They're propping it up.
The VIX down 6.49.
And the DAX down 544.
You could say a long overdue correction, but the reason it's happening is obvious and incontrovertible.
Governments covered up the true nature of the virus.
It's now admitted that it's man-made.
It's now admitted that the prestigious Indian Institute a month ago that came out and said, we've scanned it.
It's totally man-made.
You can see the insertion points.
It's a chimera.
It's a bunch of different families of viruses.
No way this exists in nature.
And it's got the stitches on it.
Literal.
dan friesen
Then he goes on to talk about Frankenstein and how Frankenstein has stitches on its head.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Well, that makes more sense now.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I mean, it is a sort of natural consequence that you might expect to see that there would be some market fears, some jitteriness based around the fact that the outbreak is continuing to go on.
There's fears of disruption of some international business.
And, you know, you could talk about that one way, or you could say that it's proven that this is man-made.
jordan holmes
See, I thought he was gonna land that one.
It seemed pretty obvious.
Never make that assumption.
The markets are down, alright?
We all know why it's the coronavirus fear.
And he didn't say that.
He went with...
It's been confirmed that it's a man-made virus.
That I would not have gone so far as to say.
dan friesen
No, but it's because the fall in the stock market is something that Alex has already baked into all of his narratives.
Of course.
Because this is a man-made bioweapon that got released, right?
They only did that in order to precipitate this drop in the market in order to attack Trump and nationalism.
jordan holmes
It makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
So this is really the fulfillment of the narrative about...
It's exhausting.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
But if that's exhausting, what ends up happening next, what Alex brings up next, is just next-level exhausting.
alex jones
Owen Schroyer and his security team got assaulted by a mob of drooling zombies.
I mean, you talk about escapees from a lunatic asylum.
I've seen footage inside real lunatic asylums, and these people act more insane and more violent than they do.
And you're like, oh, that's just a few of them.
No.
Almost all of them were incontinent.
A lot of them had piss running down their legs.
It was a nightmare yesterday in Austin.
dan friesen
So, Alex and Owen Schroyer went out to a Bernie rally in Austin to bullhorn and try and cause a scene, as is their mission in life.
jordan holmes
Oh, the zombies.
dan friesen
This is absolutely par for the course.
Nothing too surprising there.
It's in their sort of business mission statement.
Go and yell at people.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Most of the footage from the whole thing is just Bernie supporters making fun of them as they yell commie into bullhorns.
It's really just a sad look for InfoWars.
But again, that's par for the course.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The first thing I want to say is that there's approximately a two and a half hour video of Owen at the rally actually talking to people.
Okay.
unidentified
Folks treating him with respect and answering questions coherently.
dan friesen
All of that is not in the video that InfoWars released.
jordan holmes
It's not.
dan friesen
They just ignored all that and released a four minute video of people yelling at Owen and making faces at his camera, clearly fucking with him.
Right.
unidentified
The video of people calmly talking to Owen undermines the narrative that InfoWars is trying to push.
dan friesen
And that is that all the people at this Bernie rally are raving lunatics who piss their pants.
Anyway, the big news is that one of Owen's security guards was attacked by the horrible, evil, violent Bernie supporters, who we know from Project Veritas videos want to put Alex and his friends in a gulag.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Well, I went and watched that video, and what actually happened is way, way different than what Alex is saying.
In the video, there's a middle-aged woman yelling, we love you, at Owen.
Prior to the incident...
jordan holmes
She's so violent!
dan friesen
She had been trying to hug the security guards.
And even get through them to hug Owen, which I guess you might call assault.
If they wanted to try and pull that, that's a bad look for the macho Owen Schroyer to attempt to pull.
jordan holmes
Oh, the cock destroyer destroyed by a nice little hug.
dan friesen
So what happens is this woman is expressing this love, and then a younger man walks up and appears to be taking a bit of a more confrontational pose towards Owen and his security guards, but he's not attacking anyone or anything.
As far as the video shows, at this point, unprovoked, Owen Schreier hits this guy in the face with his bullhorn.
He just clocks the guy with the bullhorn.
Now, the problem is that Owen had a security guard standing in between him and this guy he just hit with a bullhorn.
So he had to reach over the security guard to hit him.
jordan holmes
I think we've improved intent there.
I think that's what we've proven.
dan friesen
As Owen is bringing the bullhorn back to a neutral position, he also hits his own security guard in the face with the bullhorn.
It's legitimately clear as day from the video, which Infowars posted on their website, even showing it in slow motion, that the only strike that occurred was Owen hitting two people in the face with a bullhorn, seemingly completely unprompted.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
InfoWars has been showing the security guard's face, which was bloodied, and using it as proof of the violent left and how conservatives can't go out into public without getting attacked.
But they failed to point out that the only thing that hit that dude's face was Owen Schroer's bullhorn, and he never would have been hurt if Owen hadn't hit the other guy in the face, seemingly unprovoked.
jordan holmes
Okay, so we're straight into 1984 territory.
We are watching the thing happen, and Alex is saying that the opposite happened.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
While we're watching it.
dan friesen
It seems that way.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
Cassandra Fairbanks wrote an article on Gateway Pundit with the headline, quote, InfoWars crew member attacked and left bloodied by crazed leftists at Bernie rally.
jordan holmes
Is Owen a crazed leftist now?
dan friesen
Sent to hospital with stitches.
The article embedded a tweet from Owen saying, quote, Unhinged Bernie supporters drew blood on my security tonight at the Bernie rally.
jordan holmes
Is Owen an unhinged Bernie supporter now?
dan friesen
These people are radical and violent.
They're everything they claim to be against.
No mention in the article about him being hit in the face by Owen, weirdly.
jordan holmes
I really feel like this isn't fair.
dan friesen
I've been looking for other angles of this video, but I haven't been able to find any.
And based on what I can see, this really looks like a case of Owen assaulting a guy, accidentally hitting his own security guard in the face, then blaming the guy he assaulted for hitting his security guard.
It's super clear from the video that the guy made no contact with the security guy's face at all.
And this is why they're not going to press charges against that dude.
That will never, ever happen because the exonerating evidence is clearly posted on band.video for the world to see.
I encourage anybody to go look at that video.
It's very clear.
It's in slow motion.
jordan holmes
This is not fair.
This is just not fair.
You can't do that.
dan friesen
Remember when I was telling you before the show that I was exhausted by Infowars?
This is really one of the reasons why I'm feeling that today.
Because it's clear, if you watch the video, that this is a situation where it's...
It's insane to see Owen take his bullhorn and hit a guy in the face with it and then them plead like...
That can't be.
It's nuts, but it flies.
And someone like Cassandra Fairbanks will write an article with their position on it, and then a bloodied face, and it'll be attached to, this is what the crazed leftists do.
It's exhausting because it works.
It works, and there's nothing you can really do about it.
The video that disproves it is there.
It's there for the seeing.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
That's...
How do you...
jordan holmes
Combat reality.
The end.
I don't understand it.
I just don't understand how you can say that.
dan friesen
It's tough.
It's very tough.
jordan holmes
It's just nightmarish, the idea that you are showing the video, proving that what you are saying is false, as proof that you are telling the truth.
And no one holds you accountable for it.
dan friesen
I mean, it's gaslighting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, that guy should press charges, right?
He's got video proof!
dan friesen
Yeah, I wondered about that.
I wondered.
I think that, like, at a certain point, it might not be worth it to press charges just because Owen hit him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because then you'd be...
I think that that could be more trouble than it's worth.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But then, once you become, like, they have video of this guy, and they're blaming him for assaulting the security guard.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
At a certain point, like, you're being used to tarnish a bunch of other people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It seems...
I don't know.
I don't know what I would do.
I don't know if that guy bumped into the security guard before Owen hit him and then becomes a murky...
You know.
jordan holmes
You hit a man with a bullhorn.
dan friesen
He did.
jordan holmes
The end.
dan friesen
You definitely can see that if you want to look at it.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
So, that news is bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, there's other bullshit afoot.
jordan holmes
Not surprising.
alex jones
And now I just got word.
So I was 30 seconds late getting on air from our big national food supplier.
I warned everybody it wasn't a gimmick.
I told you it had gone up to 14 days.
Now it's three weeks for delivery and everybody else is sold out.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
dan friesen
Uh-oh, food takes three weeks to deliver now.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
I would say that a good third of this entire episode is selling food.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Almost a third of it is just talking about how everybody's got to buy this food.
Hey, you know what?
Prices are going to go up.
Everybody's got to get this.
It's a disgraceful three-hour-long infomercial for food that's disrupted periodically for other topics.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
This is like a Jim Baker episode.
dan friesen
That's the other reason that this is very exhausting.
Because this episode, listening to it, was so much My Patriot Supply advertising that I just came to a point where I was like, am I just going to cut out a super cut of him selling the food?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's very weird.
It's aggressive.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
And I think part of that is probably because he's seeing a return on it.
He's seeing that it's working, and so keep pushing hard on the point that's working.
jordan holmes
He should try the Jim Baker have a Christmas feast in front of him with just his survival food.
dan friesen
So Alex is, you know, the market is taking a hit, and Alex is really mad that there are these people out there who are saying...
This is good or something.
The Dems are cheering for the market to fall.
alex jones
And here's just one of the hosts licking her lips, hoping for this.
unidentified
So if the stock market were to tumble this year, if we don't get near the 3% GDP growth that this administration has been talking about for years, these are all things that Dems can run on.
alex jones
And they go on for another 10 minutes talking about it.
Talk about cold-blooded.
Talk about tone deaf.
If you're a Democrat watching that, boy, I hope the economy crashes so we get rid of Trump.
Do you actually think like that?
Yes.
dan friesen
That's not what that guy said.
jordan holmes
Anyways, it's also $30 more for a giant bucket of food.
Just so you know, I hate these heartless Dems.
It is an increase of $35 now for another bucket of food.
I'm so sorry.
dan friesen
I have no idea how Alex retains any credibility with his audience.
He set up that clip as it being a TV host licking their lips about the economy going down because it'll hurt Trump.
But then the actual clip is just a guy making a very straightforward assessment that I think is indisputable.
Trump has made the economy a centerpiece of his claims that he's a good president.
If the economy takes a downturn or fails to reach the levels Trump promised, of course a Democratic candidate could use that in a campaign.
jordan holmes
How dare someone point that out at a time like this, Dan?
dan friesen
Where's the lip-licking?
Where's the celebrating of the economy dropping?
It's not there at all.
jordan holmes
Oh, he was overjoyed.
You can hear it in his tone of voice.
I mean, I can.
I was hit in the face by a bullhorn recently, so...
dan friesen
If Alex hates that commentator, he must really hate what Trump himself said about the real estate crash.
Prior to the crash, he was interviewed for an audiobook in 2006 where he was asked, quote, There's a lot of talk, which you have no doubt heard too, about a so-called real estate bubble.
What's your take on that pessimism?
Trump replied, quote, Well, first of all, I sort of hope that happens, because then people like me would go in and buy.
You know, when you're in a good cash position.
When I'm in a good cash position today, then people like me would go in and buy like crazy.
That sounds way more like a guy who's rooting for a market to collapse than the clip that Alex just played.
The difference between Trump and this commentator, though, is that the commentator was just discussing a potential weak point for Trump in the next election, and Trump was explicitly saying that the bursting of a real estate bubble would be good because he could personally make money off it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he was also holding a sign above his head that said, I am a psychopath.
I am a psychopath.
dan friesen
Bad guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, none of this matters because this side of Trump is the stuff that Alex obviously knows about, but pretends he doesn't.
Because he's committed to presenting him as the good guy.
This is exactly the stuff he'll start becoming magically aware of as soon as it's time for Trump to turn heel.
jordan holmes
It will be crazy how fast he's informed of these past transgressions.
dan friesen
Yeah, amazing.
Get up to speed.
jordan holmes
It'll go real quick.
It'll be a deluge of secret information that we discovered.
dan friesen
Oh my god, I just learned that Trump has mob ties.
I didn't definitely say that in 2015.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
Did you know that Trump supported redlining?
Oh, that's crazy.
dan friesen
Alex wouldn't complain about that.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's fair.
You're right.
dan friesen
So the issue is that, like, Dems want the market to collapse.
jordan holmes
Oh, the Dems.
dan friesen
Because Democrats don't work.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There are no Democrats working.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
The average Democrat does not work.
Or they're a tenured professor or government employee show.
jordan holmes
Or we don't have any money.
alex jones
If they can hurt the free market economy.
And then turn people against the nationalist Trump, they'll do it in a heartbeat.
In fact, that's what Cloward and Piven's all about.
Just one of the communist plans by a U.S. university that was adopted by the Democrats back in the 80s publicly.
They said we want to overload the economy with migrants and with welfare and with people having all sorts of rights that don't exist, like to have a comfort pony.
jordan holmes
The rights that don't exist.
alex jones
That's a real thing.
Or a comfort pelican.
That's a real thing on the airplane with you.
While China doesn't even have any environmental standards or regulations, So we've discussed Cloward and Piven in the past, and it's not what Alex is describing.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
It's not really a plan as much as it is an analysis.
These two professors were making the argument that financial hardship was far worse in our country than the statistics we're able to capture, and that a lot of the American public were suffering through things, even though relief was available to them.
Part of what allows our system to continue the way it has is the illusion that most people are doing okay.
And one thing that would shatter that illusion is if everyone in this country who was eligible for social welfare programs collected on what they were eligible for.
This would lead to an overloading of the welfare system, and from that, with the scope of the real problem clear to see, the government would be inclined to finally eliminate poverty by instituting a guaranteed income for citizens.
This plan was obviously not adopted by the Democratic Party in the 80s, considering that it was written in 1966 and we don't have anything resembling guaranteed income, and the candidate who was running on UBI, Andrew Yang, has already dropped out of the race.
Alex doesn't understand Cloward and Piven, but he knows the name and he knows that his audience is not going to look into it enough to recognize that he's just making shit up.
As far as I can tell, Alex is just making up the claim that Democrats don't work.
I'd be interested to see where he's getting that from, because from everything I can tell, it's a completely fabricated stat.
He's just pulling out of his ass.
jordan holmes
No, you haven't seen the Rasmussen polls.
98% of Democrats don't work.
dan friesen
They're tenured professors.
jordan holmes
Don't work.
The other 2% are tenured.
dan friesen
Also, there's no such thing as a comfort pelican!
jordan holmes
No, come on!
dan friesen
I don't know if you've ever spent your time watching videos of pelicans or cruising images of pelicans, but I have, and I will tell you, they are mean.
jordan holmes
Completely unrelated.
Completely unrelated.
Related to this situation.
dan friesen
Yes, 100%.
I'm interested in pelicans.
jordan holmes
You just like pelicans.
dan friesen
Yeah, they are mean birds.
You can find a bunch of pictures of them biting kids' heads, for instance.
Good.
They're moody, and they do not like people much.
So there's legitimately no chance they would ever be used as a support animal.
jordan holmes
That would almost be like a challenge that somebody takes upon themselves.
Just like, I will bet you $1,000 that I can breed a comfort pelican.
dan friesen
Gentleman's agreement.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And to be fair, I do think that it's possible that you could have, like, an emotional support pelican or something like that in your house.
Like, on a plane?
Get the fuck out of here.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
This seems to be a meme that went around in right-wing circles in 2019, making fun of the snowflakes and whatnot.
Apparently there was an apocryphal story about someone trying to claim a pelican as an emotional support animal, but I can find no evidence that that actually happened, but I can find a tweet from Adam Carolla making fun of the idea.
As far as I can tell, it was a fake story that was used as proof that the left was out of control.
Alex is only bringing this up because at the end of January, the Department of Transportation proposed a new rule that would strictly limit emotional support animals that are allowed on planes to be specifically specially trained dogs.
I checked in with the rules on various airlines and up to that point, no one allowed pelicans.
American Airlines has clear rules on their website with cats and dogs being allowed with some pretty strict requirements in place.
Trained mini horses can be permitted as well.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
But you kind of have to assume that that almost never happened.
jordan holmes
It's going to be a problem.
dan friesen
Primarily because they would have to satisfy the rule, quote, animal must be able to fit at your feet, under your seat, or in your lap.
If you're a very, very small horse.
jordan holmes
It's a smaller horse than we have so far discovered.
dan friesen
Tiny little horse.
Delta has a list of animals that are specifically restricted as sport animals, and that includes rodents, insects, reptiles, birds, anything with hooves, basically everything except cats or dogs.
Southwest is explicit in it only allowing, quote, small vaccinated domestic cats and dogs in an appropriate pet carrier in the aircraft cabin.
No one has a support pelican on planes, and the Department of Transportation's new rule recommendation is aimed at targeting people they believe are trying to pull a scam by claiming their dog or cat is an emotional support animal and thus skirting the fee they would have to pay to travel with their pet.
That's what they're doing.
They're trying to crack down on financial shit.
It has nothing to do with leftist snowflakes wanting support pelicans because of Cloward and Piven.
This is ridiculous.
Kind of show.
jordan holmes
You know what?
That's the problem.
If Howard Hughes had really gotten his airline off the ground, we would have been able to have spruce geese on all of our planes whenever we so desired.
And it's a failure.
dan friesen
Speaking of mean birds, geese.
jordan holmes
Very mean.
Especially wooden ones.
dan friesen
My aunt had geese.
They terrorized me when we go visit.
jordan holmes
Your aunt had geese?
dan friesen
A lot of geese?
A couple, I would say.
I don't know.
It feels like a lot, because I remember through a child...
The fear of the geese.
So I think there's a hundred, but there's probably only like four.
jordan holmes
That sounds...
I wouldn't have geese just because that sounds like a disease.
Oh, my aunt has geese.
Sorry.
dan friesen
It was emotionally a disease.
jordan holmes
I hope she lives through it.
dan friesen
So we get to talking about the coronavirus situation a little bit.
Sure.
Food.
I mean, you just got...
All this is just food.
The conspiracy.
alex jones
Lab monkeys infected with coronavirus in desperate bid to find vaccine.
Don't worry.
Bill and Melinda Gates already have one patented and ready.
And don't worry.
The North Carolina University gave it to the Chi-Coms five years ago.
The exact same kind of era of virus.
It's all on record.
Complete smoking gun.
Why would you hand that out?
Obama did that five years ago.
So that when it gets released...
You don't know who to blame.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Alex is completely lost with this conspiracy theory now that there's a smoking gun proof.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is off the rails.
dan friesen
Well, because now he can't pivot anywhere also.
Like, you have to now keep in mind...
That we've proven this aspect of it.
jordan holmes
100% true.
dan friesen
Wherever you want to go with it, it's kind of got to be like, that has to be a part of your narrative now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and it's definitely...
dan friesen
He has less wiggle ability.
jordan holmes
We're definitely on the decrescendo if we're on the reason behind it is they don't want you to know where it's coming from for some reason.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You won!
You got the proof!
dan friesen
It's a bit lame.
Yeah.
The issue, too, is that we're seeing these sort of flare-ups happening in countries like Italy, and it's not showing to have the fatality rates that you would be afraid of.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it's not to say that, hey, it's fine or it's good that we have the coronavirus popping up other places, but it's certainly seeming to indicate that, okay, We're looking at a fatality rate that is very low.
And people who are in those demographics that are dying are people who are elderly or have pre-existing conditions, which is what you would expect.
It's not the worst news possible.
And so Alex kind of knows that.
He doesn't want to tell anybody that.
But he needs to prepare for that eventuality.
And so here's how he does that.
alex jones
I don't believe this is going to be the big one.
But this is the beta test for a future mass depopulation event that I think will kill over a billion people.
jordan holmes
Which will be the Omega test.
alex jones
Bring in a world planetary government in the name of stopping the next outbreak.
Then they'll have, a decade after that, another mass color that I believe will kill about 7 billion people.
unidentified
Why?
alex jones
And so there'll be almost no one left.
unidentified
Why?
alex jones
That is the official UN.
jordan holmes
Why?
alex jones
Belumland-Negate's plan is 500 million tops humans on planet Earth.
dan friesen
Because I read it in the Georgia Guidestones.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
Fuck you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I believe the next one.
dan friesen
This is a three-stage now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is a big plan.
dan friesen
We've got a beta test.
jordan holmes
Also, we're a decade behind on top of everything, so we've got at least 20, 30 years before we even have to worry about this, right?
dan friesen
This is his escape hatch.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is how you get out of it when it ends up not being the civilizational level collapse where we end up in a situation where...
mike adams
It's over for humanity.
alex jones
Get out of here.
mike adams
There will only be lone survivors.
dan friesen
So that's coming down the road 10 years, 20 years down the road.
jordan holmes
It's the beta test.
And then on the next one, it'll turn out that the next one is the beta test, and this one was the alpha test.
dan friesen
That's how you know Alex isn't serious about any of this shit.
So he has some other conspiracies that are kind of more on a linguistic basis, I guess, about the coronavirus.
And this is dumb.
alex jones
Could the 2020 Tokyo Olympics be a victim of...
C-O-V-I-D-19.
No longer the Hunan virus.
You notice they just moved on to the number.
dan friesen
So what we got going on here is that Alex believes that the globalists changed the name of the coronavirus to take Wuhan out of it, which is just something he's repeating for Mike Adams.
Here's Mike back on February 16th informing Alex of this dreadful conspiracy.
mike adams
The real play here is that China now wants to export these infections to other countries so that China doesn't get the blame for the global pandemic that's coming.
I have no question.
No doubt, China is trying to export infections to Taiwan, to Hawaii, to Malaysia, Singapore, Japan, so that China doesn't get the blame.
They already convinced the WHO to change the name of the virus away from the Wuhan pneumonia coronavirus.
To COVID-19, which doesn't have the word China in it, by the way.
They're trying to rewrite history.
They're trying to blame America.
If they can cause an outbreak in America, they can say, look, even the CDC couldn't control this.
How could you expect us in China to control it?
So this is getting to a very dangerous biological weapons stage.
dan friesen
So, to put it simply, the Health Ranger is very stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
All you have to do is look back on the SARS outbreak of 2002 to 2003 to realize how dumb this shit is.
jordan holmes
They took the name China out of SARS, too.
dan friesen
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
SARS means severe acute respiratory syndrome, which is caused by a virus called SARS-CoV, where the CoV means coronavirus.
Despite the name not having China anywhere in it, everyone still knows that it originated in China.
jordan holmes
Now, they rewrote history.
I think it's from SARS land.
dan friesen
During that outbreak, there were 251 cases in Canada and 238 in Singapore, a bunch all over the place.
There were outbreaks outside of China, but guess what?
Everyone still understands that the outbreak originated in China.
No one's rewriting that history based on China not being in the name.
jordan holmes
And nobody's saying that China created the SARS virus.
Well, Alex is, yes.
dan friesen
Never mind.
Here's the underlying assumption that Mike is making there that no serious person would ever make.
Mike is acting like public health workers are looking to assign blame for this.
Blame is such a strange word to use in a situation like the one we're in.
It should really tell you that Mike is not a health ranger or a science ranger.
He's a propaganda narrative ranger.
Blame is a word you use when you're telling a story, not when you're looking at dealing with an outbreak in a naturally occurring health situation.
These dudes have drifted so far past the point where they believe that this is a bioweapon that they're just having casual conversations about China exporting the virus to other countries so they don't get the blame for a bioweapon.
It's at the point where a coherent conversation between whatever they think is going on and someone who's dealing with reality is just impossible.
And that's the goal.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Now, they are hitting us in the face with a bullhorn right now and telling us.
dan friesen
Metaphorically.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Also, the virus was never called the Wuhan pneumonia coronavirus.
dan friesen
People colloquially called it like a Wuhan coronavirus because the city of Wuhan was a distinguishing marker about the outbreak.
But the actual temporary name that scientists gave it was 2019 NCOV to mark the year and NCOV to mean novel coronavirus.
They made this official policy in 2015 because of things like how people slaughtered pigs and disrupted pork imports for no reason after that 2009 outbreak that was called the swine flu.
People make assumptions based on names, and it's best to do whatever you can to make that response more difficult for people to make.
Actual scientists would never call this virus the Wuhan coronavirus in any official way, and given that Mike Adams pretends that he's an expert on this stuff and basically a doctor, he should know that.
It's basic stuff, and he's painting it as a conspiracy.
They took Wuhan out of the name so we don't know it's China.
jordan holmes
As we all know, historically, when the mob chooses a scapegoat, it works out well for everyone involved, Dan.
There has never been any historical situation where the mob has chosen a scapegoat.
Almost at random.
And caused rampant acts of violence.
And have it turn out bad.
dan friesen
That's just true.
You want to avoid the ease of that.
So Alex talks some more shit.
He's just talking shit.
alex jones
But now the numbers are coming out.
We know that it is indeed killing healthy young people.
And it is killing a high number of those that are infected.
dan friesen
So I have no idea where Alex is getting this information from, that healthy young people are dying from the coronavirus.
Literally everything I can find suggests that is not the case.
This is a really big claim that Alex is making, since almost all other sources I can find are pretty clear that the vast majority of fatalities that are being seen are among elderly people and people with pre-existing conditions.
So I would call on him to cite his source, name some specifics, who are these young people.
I suspect he doesn't have any sources, which is why he never brings any of them up.
He's just talking shit.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So we get to talking about Italy here in this next clip, and there's actually a really interesting way in which Alex is wrong about the cases in Italy.
jordan holmes
Does he say everybody in Italy is dead?
dan friesen
Everyone.
jordan holmes
Everyone is dead?
The entirety of Italy?
Do you have it queued up?
Do you have it queued up?
dan friesen
Do you know how many survivors there are?
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Wait, is that Italian?
Anyway.
alex jones
Coming out of places like Italy, they're saying it's killing a lot more people than the numbers the CHICOMs have been giving us.
unidentified
Well...
alex jones
You can't believe a word that comes out of the CHICOM's mouth, but I want to go back a month ago.
I could have 10 storable foods company sponsors.
A lot of folks do.
You listen to some of the other national hosts, they'll have three or four.
jordan holmes
But they're all out of food, right?
alex jones
People need high-quality storable food.
dan friesen
Actually, most of them are My Patriot Supply.
They fund a lot of the other conservative talkers also.
jordan holmes
It does tend to be that.
dan friesen
So when he's talking about Italy there, specific information about the cases of coronavirus that are popping up in Italy, at the time I was preparing this episode, they're not readily available.
So I can't really comment on what's going on there, the source of it, how these things happen.
The coming days will bring with them much more detail about that sort of stuff.
And at that point, when that happens, we can have a fuller conversation about it.
But it would be irresponsible for now.
For now, though, I want to address Alex's claim that Italy shows that the virus is much more deadly than the Chinese government was saying because the Chinese lie.
In essence, he's asserting that the Chinese covered up the fatality rate of the virus, and now that there are a bunch of people in Italy getting it, we're seeing proof that there was a cover-up.
Actually, the opposite is true.
It makes sense to maintain some skepticism towards the information coming out of China, so you can't really blame a person for doing that.
However, Alex is not just skeptical.
He's wrong.
According to an article from February 25th in Forbes, quote, Italy's surprise blowout of the new coronavirus shows that despite the countries bursting into the scene over the last few days, their mortality rate is similar to China's.
This is actually good news.
If it turns out to be true in other countries where public health data is more trustworthy, then one can assume that China is not entirely underestimating the mortality rate.
The latest figures from Italy had the mortality rate at approximately 2.6%, which is south of Well, the...
Well, the...
The opposite.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Well, the Italians didn't add the casualties from Venice in there because I heard that somebody got the coronavirus in Venice and they just sank it.
It was already going under anyway, so they just sank the whole thing.
dan friesen
That may be.
jordan holmes
They didn't include those numbers.
dan friesen
So, in terms of the actual claims being put forth by Alex, that the cases in Italy demonstrate that China was lying about the mortality rate of the virus, he's either making that up or he doesn't understand the numbers or anything about the situation.
And this is not a surprise.
jordan holmes
And it can be all of those at the same time.
dan friesen
Yeah, you bet it could.
jordan holmes
That's the fun.
dan friesen
It could, yeah.
jordan holmes
He's dumb and wrong and lying.
Hooray!
dan friesen
But you also see how it all is just to serve to a food plug.
At the end, he's just getting into a food plug.
Because that's constant.
It's so incessant on this episode to the point where there were a couple times when I was preparing this episode that I almost was like, I'm done.
I'm done with this shit.
I don't even want it.
Listen to this shit.
He goes to commercial and he comes back.
alex jones
Well, I got a call during the break and took it.
And they said, okay, if it's locked in, it's guaranteed at three weeks.
But we're going to have to tell folks now, four weeks now, and we may at this rate just say, I mean, if it keeps happening in two or three days, they may just have to say no more orders.
dan friesen
Do you see what's going on here?
jordan holmes
That's fucking sad.
dan friesen
What you're seeing is basically my Patriot Supply reaching the point where they can't handle any more orders.
It makes sense.
They can hire temporary staff to satisfy their increased labor demands with packaging and fulfillment, but they aren't willing to build a new factory or plant to increase the output.
Their existing facilities are at the maximum output, and to increase that number, they'd need to put in a long-term investment in an additional facility, and they're not going to do that because they know this is a temporary situation, which they have now basically maximized their profit from.
So the only other possibility here is that they're trying to pretend there's an actual food shortage.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that just isn't the case.
The effect of them selling this narrative is that they're trying to cause panic in the audience.
At the beginning of the show, Alex said it's now three weeks to get food.
And less than an hour later, it's up to four weeks.
This is the sort of behavior you would engage in if you're trying to cause a panic, not if you're trying to operate an ethical ad campaign.
I think that the way Alex sold his nanosilver was disgraceful and potentially illegal.
But I honestly think the strategy he's employing here for the survival food is a lot worse.
This is just naked exploitation of fears that he himself is creating.
It's the definition of parasitic.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And not just that, but the sales tactics are getting so...
Like, he's literally doing the used car salesman.
Like, hey, I called my boss and he said, I can take it down for three weeks right now.
You gotta do it right now, though.
I don't know what my boss is gonna say tomorrow.
He's crazy, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But at least it's not like he put a clock on it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I mean...
dan friesen
We can thank God he's not resorted to that sort of QVC tactic.
jordan holmes
I feel like you're about to...
alex jones
So I said to him, I said, give me two hours for people to get in their orders.
jordan holmes
Wow.
alex jones
To get it.
In three weeks.
Because three weeks is a little long out there.
They want to make sure that you're happy.
dan friesen
If you order now, in the next two hours, you'll get three weeks delivered.
But after that, I can't guarantee you anything else.
jordan holmes
It's ridiculous.
dan friesen
This is so disgraceful.
jordan holmes
I feel like Coach McGurk just sitting in front of...
unidentified
Swords.
dan friesen
It's so weird.
I guess it works.
jordan holmes
Oh, look at these knives.
Look at these knives.
They're so sharp.
They're so sharp.
dan friesen
So, Alex has Mike Adams come in because you got to.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
He's been proven right about everything, which actually is how Alex introduces him.
jordan holmes
No!
alex jones
Gentlemen, Mike Adams has been the most intrepid on-target reporter in the last five, six weeks on the coronavirus.
He's been dead on.
dan friesen
He's dead on.
mike adams
It's over for humanity.
There will only be lone survivors.
dan friesen
So, Alex has him to, you know, sort of just...
I guess, dance around that theme.
And also talk about how this market drop is proof that this is all just an attack on Trump.
alex jones
Here's Reuters.
Dow drops more than 900 points as coronavirus cases outside of China surge.
We know what this is.
This is the answer to nationalism.
This is the answer to Trump.
This is the answer to a good economy in the West and China's fake, overblown economy that had people rebelling inside China and without, in Taiwan, a cover for Xi Jinping to then export.
The UN, three weeks ago, was saying shoot people at checkpoints, weld their doors.
jordan holmes
The UN said that.
alex jones
You're doing a great job.
But when Trump said maybe we should stop flights from these cities in China, the UN said this is bigoted and horrible.
And so we flew them here.
dan friesen
None of that is real.
jordan holmes
None of it?
dan friesen
None.
jordan holmes
How?
The only way that we can...
The reason that society isn't better is because of bad actors like this.
If people just would stop...
Fucking following these guys that have an actual reasonable conversation that doesn't wind up anything and everything being a goddamn conspiracy to take down Trump because he's fucking evil!
I don't know what to tell you!
dan friesen
That's just projected narcissism.
That's just every single thing in the world exists solely as an attack on me and my people.
And it's just, I mean, it's no way to live.
And it's a mindset that's impossible to really...
jordan holmes
You can't break it out.
dan friesen
Well, no, and you can't really...
Debate it either.
There's no really convincing that mindset of seeing outside itself without individual work being done.
People really working on themselves and recognizing like, oh, not everything involves me.
Not everything is about some sort of a cloak and dagger cabal trying to attack my interests.
jordan holmes
Sometimes I'm the one who hit a guy with a bullhorn.
Sometimes it's me.
dan friesen
Sometimes it's you.
So Mike gets in here and they have a little conversation and like, dude, they're just, nothing, nothing is real.
mike adams
Alright, CDC says there are now 53 cases in the United States.
We have reliable information that tells us that that's only one twentieth of the total number of infections that are known to the CDC in the United States.
dan friesen
So I went and checked naturalnews.com and read some of the articles they posted, and there's literally no support or citation given for claims that the CDC is covering up a thousand cases of coronavirus in the United States.
It's important to understand that when people like Alex or Mike Adams claim that they have information on a good authority or from a high-level source, they're making it up.
They pretend to be journalists, so they know that it would take a really serious reason for a court to compel them to ever reveal a source, so they're completely free to make things up and attribute them to unnamed sources whenever they please.
The fact that they operate like this goes a long way towards explaining why they always yell about the New York Times and other journalistic outlets using sources under the condition of anonymity.
Because they just make up fake sources.
They assume everybody else does it, too.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
It's the only way.
I mean, can you imagine?
What would it require to actually go find somebody who has any kind of expertise?
Talk to them.
Then cross-reference that with another source to verify the information.
That's impossible, Dan.
So everyone must be making it up.
unidentified
Alex is too busy, man.
dan friesen
He's got hot springs to sit in and get yelled at by globalists.
jordan holmes
He's doing seven hours of research even when he's dreaming, Dan.
dan friesen
Anyway, I can find no evidence that the CDC is covering up a thousand cases of coronavirus.
As always, this is just Mike talking shit.
As he continues to do...
mike adams
The WHO is a front for communist China.
The WHO has been infiltrated and taken over by the communists And the WHO is covering for China.
They sent a mission of people there to investigate China, and all they came out with was positive stories about what a great job China is doing.
jordan holmes
Maybe they're doing a great job!
dan friesen
Again, there is a part of it that is, yes, some stuff that China is doing is essential towards global response to this.
And another piece of it is the PR thing that we discussed on a past episode.
The idea of like...
If the World Health Organization comes out and nitpicks everything that China is doing in response to this, they jeopardize the possibility of full cooperation.
And that is a big thing.
That is a big issue.
Alex and Mike Jones...
Mike Jones.
Alex and Mike Adams can throw around all they want, all this talk about how they've been infiltrated by communists in their front for China, and they can have fun with that.
But the reality is, if they operated, the World Health Organization operated in a way that Mike and Alex wanted them to, the situation would be so much worse.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Most likely be so much worse.
jordan holmes
And not just that, but it doesn't make any sense from China's standpoint, because if you want good PR, if you're China...
You do a good job.
Now that this is becoming so global that everybody is going to have to deal with it in some fashion or another, the only thing that makes sense for China to come out of this in a positive light is for them to have done everything possible as well as they possibly could.
Anything less than that and the world will be like, we can never trust you again.
This is a virus.
This isn't even like a political thing.
This is just, let's live.
We like living.
Let's keep doing that.
dan friesen
Yeah, and there will always be debates about whether certain measures were the right thing to do.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And that is definitely something for another time.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
For after the period.
Once there is a semblance of containment, then it's the appropriate time to be like, is locking down a city the best way to deal with this?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Now is not the time for that debate.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Or complaints about China and their behaviors.
So Alex goes to break and he comes back.
He's just got a weird thought.
I disagree with this fundamentally.
alex jones
Knowledge is knowing how to fix a carburetor or how to roof a house or how to kick somebody's ass.
But what is wisdom?
jordan holmes
None of them books.
alex jones
Wisdom is when you can look at thousands of points of data and have enough experience and enough connection to God.
That's really what it is.
It's discernment.
To then know through the form, like radar, what's happening.
And so I could go over a thousand points.
I know you're all seeing it as well.
A million points.
It's indescribable.
Gut level.
It's really just subconscious level.
Hundreds of times more powerful than the conscious brain.
There's a spirit riding in that cockpit as well.
dan friesen
So if you understand what he's saying, he's basically making the argument that knowledge is knowing things and wisdom is connecting things because you feel like it.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That's not good.
jordan holmes
Done!
dan friesen
That's bad.
That's a really bad way.
jordan holmes
King Solomon made that clear in the Proverbs when he said, knowledge is kicking ass and wisdom is knowing when to kick ass, baby.
Let's do this.
dan friesen
I'm not a square in the sense that I'm going to be like, intuition is total bullshit or anything like that.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It was a really great moment for me.
I took logic classes in college.
I took a bunch of logic courses.
jordan holmes
That's not knowledge, by the way.
Or wisdom.
dan friesen
Certainly not.
I was drawn to philosophy, but I really didn't like a lot of the elements of how you can have a good argument for or against something, and a lot of times it's pretty arbitrary which side you decide to argue for.
jordan holmes
That's debate in a nutshell.
dan friesen
I didn't like that.
But logic is incontrovertible.
There is just rules for how sentences work.
It's mathematical.
jordan holmes
Sir, you have not been hit by a bullhorn.
dan friesen
Well, I don't know how logic relates to that.
It's mathematical in form.
And so you can diagram things and break things out.
And one day in my, I don't know, I think it was maybe my second or third semester class, I had this professor named Dr. Weirich.
And he was just fantastic.
He was a great professor.
Very dry, very funny, but also really good at elucidating these finer points of how sentences work, how you break down derived meaning.
jordan holmes
He improved your discernment.
dan friesen
Certainly.
And smelling.
It was a very formative stretch of classes I took with this dude.
One day, we were going over some of the homework problems and discussing things, and someone else in the class was like, I think that this argument is invalid.
I feel like it is, but I'm going through it, and it looks like it's valid.
And so Professor Weirich got up, and he was diagramming it on the board, and he went through all of it, all the steps, and showed that it was invalid.
And as he was finishing up the conclusion, he's like, and so, to sum up...
Sometimes you must not distrust your intuition.
So there was this interesting moment where you're in a formal logic class and this guy is diagramming the sentence and at the same time the lesson that's derived from it is sometimes...
Your intuition is guiding you in the right direction.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's not proof.
dan friesen
No.
Exactly.
I'm not a square in saying, hey, your gut's always wrong.
There is a place for that, but it's a place that is merged with...
Proof.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Or your higher brain or whatever.
What Alex is doing is creating a dichotomy between your brain and wisdom.
Discernment, wisdom, or whatever.
And that's a shield that he hides behind in order to make shit up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's what he uses this for.
A thousand different data points I'm connecting through the fog.
That just is you making shit up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's all that's going on.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He's like if your professor, if the student had been like...
I feel like this is invalid and your professor was like, you did all the work you needed to do.
Go tell it to the world!
Get a radio show!
Tell them that what you said is true!
It doesn't matter!
Don't prove anything!
unidentified
A thousand points!
jordan holmes
Lies!
dan friesen
It would be similar to that.
I don't think I would have taken three semesters of that.
jordan holmes
I don't think that would have been a good...
dan friesen
Four or five, actually.
Anyway, Alex is...
He's still got Mike Adams on hold, but he decides he's going to complain a little bit more about what happened to Owen at that Bernie rally.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
And I only play this because Alex adds a detail that I think is funny.
alex jones
They all came over and attacked Owen and split one of the security guys.
He was a great guy.
Lives here in the U.S. now.
He's in the Austrian military and a patriot.
Split him between the eyes, three stitches.
And we're just attacking everyone and trying to hit Owen.
And he got some of those little punches in.
And they go, hug, hug, hug.
And there's video of this on Infowars.com.
Paul Watson wrote about it.
So to NationalFile.com.
When they get in close and they start elbowing you, they start kneeing you, they start spitting on you.
And they usually, and I'm not doing this to be funny, folks.
The men walk over and they go, they go, And then they'll start saying, I like kids.
I like kids.
I like kids.
And there's a lot of videos when they try to lick me.
And that can be in New York.
I can be in Austin.
jordan holmes
People want a taste.
alex jones
And they say, I want the children.
I like children.
dan friesen
It's all nonsense.
jordan holmes
So why are they licking you?
dan friesen
It's all complete nonsense.
But I do like the idea that Alex thinks everyone wants to lick him.
jordan holmes
Everybody's coming up to lick me!
This is the ravings of...
dan friesen
I look like a salt cube.
jordan holmes
He needs help!
unidentified
This is a man who needs help!
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, when I walk down the street, people just try and lick me.
It's just, you know, a lot of people have to deal with a lot of aspects of fame that maybe, you know, paparazzo, that kind of stuff.
I get licked a lot.
dan friesen
It happens.
You got, like, people on Fox News talking about, like, maybe the unviability or the questions about some of Bernie's policies and the funding and all that stuff.
Alex comes in for a remote and he's like, my big problem is its followers want to lick me.
They all come up to me.
Next thing you know, it's Lickgate.
jordan holmes
I'm looking forward to Amy Klobuchar bringing that up in the debate.
dan friesen
So we get back to Mike Adams and his nonsense about China and the coronavirus.
You see a really through-the-fog kind of reaction from Alex in this clip.
mike adams
I saw a haunting video last night.
You probably won't be able to find this easily.
It was in Chinese.
And it was just a video filmed in Wuhan of all the apartment buildings at night in the background.
And the screams, the haunting, blood-curdling screams from people, the mental anguish.
alex jones
I want to see this.
Will you send this to us?
mike adams
I will, yeah.
We've got the link.
dan friesen
I have no idea exactly what video Mike is talking about, but I suspect that it's one that's been circulating since at least January 28th when it was covered by the South China Mornings.
It's exactly what Mike is describing.
It's large buildings in Wuhan at night.
And you can hear screaming and yelling.
It sounds pretty off-putting without translation.
However, with subtitles, you learn that what people are yelling are words of encouragement to their fellow citizens.
They're yelling, quote, stay strong and, quote, keep it up, Wuhan, essentially rallying the people to keep morale high in a difficult situation.
Mike should know what these people are saying.
He's claimed on multiple occasions to speak Chinese, so he shouldn't even need subtitles.
My suspicion is that he absolutely does know what that video shows, but also recognizes its power as a propaganda tool, and so does Alex.
That's why he gets super excited about the video and he wants to see it.
It's not out of concern for people who are caring about the situation.
It's because he knows he can use it to scare his audience into buying his shit.
That's the game.
jordan holmes
Man, that's...
I did not have too much problem trusting my intuition and guessing that maybe they weren't on the up and up with this video.
That was my guess.
dan friesen
I don't know if it's another video that Mike's talking about, but this fits exactly what he's talking about.
So, I don't know.
Anyway, Mike takes that video.
And he connects it with Alex's ravings about the Bernie rally to create a whole new narrative to scare people.
mike adams
You just nailed it.
When you take these deranged, lunatic, violent leftists who are already mentally ill, I mean, they're already gone, and you add a quarantine to that, what's going to happen?
To their state of mental health, what are they then willing to do in terms of violence or looting or murder or killing or rape or pedophilia or all the things that they do almost on an everyday basis anyway?
Add the coronavirus to that, you start looking at the downfall of society.
dan friesen
So we got these crazy leftists like the ones at the Bernie rally put a quarantine on the situation and watch society erode.
jordan holmes
I want to call the cops and report an assault on reality.
This show is fucking insane.
dan friesen
Yeah, and hey, it gets even more surreal because guess what?
Mike Adams is hosting the whole time that Alex has gone for CPAC.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
But he's not doing it alone.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
Is it Roger Stone?
dan friesen
It's not.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
You're going to be co-hosting the show.
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday with Alan Keyes.
I'm going to be popping in live from CPAC.
jordan holmes
Alan Keyes!
Alan Keyes.
What?
dan friesen
I don't know that I've ever heard Alan Keyes on InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Alan Keyes is going to be co-hosting InfoWars.
dan friesen
Former Republican presidential candidate, Alan Keyes.
jordan holmes
Really?
Okay.
dan friesen
I didn't know that he had gone this far.
jordan holmes
Ah, man.
A lot of the mighty have fallen pretty hard.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
One time in junior high, we had a class election.
I believe it was an election year.
jordan holmes
And Alan Keyes was standing.
And he lost that one, too.
dan friesen
It was the year that Alan Keyes was running.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
And so there were like six of us in class, and we each had to do a speech in the persona of one of the presidential candidates.
And then the class would vote on who won the election.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Alan Keyes.
And I didn't know any of his positions.
So I just decided that I would say that Alan Keyes was against school uniforms, which I knew no one wanted.
Everyone hates school uniforms.
So I did that.
jordan holmes
You perverted the system of justice, Dan!
dan friesen
And I won.
jordan holmes
In microcosm, that is everything that's wrong with America.
dan friesen
In Columbia, at this junior high.
Alan Keyes.
jordan holmes
Alan Keyes is a winner.
dan friesen
Yep.
And now he's on fucking Infowars, co-hosting with the Health Rager.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Your life is really coming full circle these days, dude.
dan friesen
It's like everything was preparation for this.
jordan holmes
We're hurtling towards the end game.
dan friesen
Although, unfortunately, I never did learn what Alan Keyes' positions were.
jordan holmes
Oh, they're not great.
dan friesen
I didn't think they were.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex complains more now about this Bernie rally that he went to.
alex jones
You've got to go to a Bernie event.
You've got to smell it.
You've got to see it.
A large percentage of them had pissed their pants.
That's a thing in these weird leftist things, is they like to crap on themselves and stuff.
I mean, it was disgusting, man.
unidentified
Don't you hire and have somebody who's famously...
dan friesen
Allegedly.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's such a weird attack.
jordan holmes
Bernie supporters pee themselves.
Done.
How could you vote for a candidate?
How could you vote for a candidate whose supporters urinate on themselves pleasurably?
dan friesen
It's so weird, but he's trying to build this up as some sort of otherworldly...
Crazy people thing.
And I think largely that's because Alex understands that a lot of his audience is never going to engage with or have any occasion to be at a Bernie rally.
And so they'll just believe these, oh, aren't they?
It's almost like aliens.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if they went to a Bernie rally, they'd be like, oh, no, everybody's pretty nice.
dan friesen
It would be really disappointing if you had all these images in your head.
unidentified
No one's trying to lick me.
I say no one's trying to lick me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, anyway, Alex says more stuff about this route.
It's just, it's nonsense.
alex jones
There's like a spiritual gas station bathroom.
And the vacantness and the mental illness in him is just like, because you see a mentally ill person, it's disturbing in the grocery store line.
Imagine being surrounded by 25,000 of them that want to kill you.
Just briefly, you heard Mike Adams.
He said, Wait till the general public figures out what's happening with coronavirus and tries to buy food.
It'll all be gone.
That's what happened.
I just talked to my Patriot Supply.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
It's all food plugs.
This whole fucking episode.
jordan holmes
I just want to grab every one of these people by the shoulders and just be like, We're trying to!
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
jordan holmes
It's so infuriating.
dan friesen
Alex was, as far as I can tell, never at the actual rally itself.
jordan holmes
Of course not!
dan friesen
He was just wandering around the outskirts bothering people, so his imagery about 25,000 people who have shit their pants wanting to kill him is being a little overly dramatic, I think.
Also, Bernie's campaign put the attendance of that rally in Austin at 12,700, so Alex is just making shit up about that, too.
Alex is a liar about everything because those lies are useful to him to use to drive sales for his products.
That's the whole game.
jordan holmes
The end.
dan friesen
Yeah, and honestly, I think that that's one of the reasons that I found this episode so frustrating to listen to is, like, it's very simple.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, a lot of the stuff is very much, like, it's not interesting to me.
Like, the things that gave me the most joy are things like service pelicans.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
Right.
dan friesen
Because I do want a service pelican.
jordan holmes
I don't appreciate being called a long list of criminal names, including any number of sex crimes, just so an asshole can sell food.
I don't appreciate that on a personal level.
dan friesen
Especially when the piece de resistance of the entire Bernie rally coverage is about Owen hitting a guy with a bullhorn and then claiming that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Which we get back to here.
jordan holmes
You guys are bad people.
Bro, easy, easy, easy.
alex jones
That guy did a left hook over and punched the security guy right in the eyes.
jordan holmes
Did he?
alex jones
Yeah, I'll give it to him.
Big guy comes over and just punches the security guy right in the face.
But we didn't do anything.
unidentified
Did he?
alex jones
Nice and security guy, blood pouring out of his face.
dan friesen
You don't see that dude punch the security guard in the footage.
As far as I can tell, unless there's some other angle of this that is like...
Magically shows that.
I don't believe this.
Because the video that they do have does show Owen hitting the guy with the bullhorn over his security guard, pulling the bullhorn back, and that's when the security guard's head goes back.
jordan holmes
Okay, so here's what you're missing, right?
It went back and to the left.
dan friesen
I would like a Zabruder treatment of this.
jordan holmes
And to the left.
dan friesen
So, Alex now has...
Joel Skousen come in.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Because we know...
jordan holmes
Gotta have the Skousen there.
dan friesen
He is an alarmist.
He is an anti-communist holdover.
Cold War dead ender type.
He hates China and all that.
And then also he did the strategic relocation film with Alex.
So he's a bug out guy.
jordan holmes
Great job.
dan friesen
Real prepper kind of situation.
And of course he's a perfect guest to have on this sort of episode.
And he has a theory.
joel skousen
It's very clear from the General Hao Ping article a couple of decades ago that they were planning on using chemical weapons to depopulate America.
As I've long said, even with their nuclear preemptive strike on military targets, they don't want to hit cities per se.
They want to blackmail the West into submission so that they can take the land, have the economy, have the granaries and the other things which the U.S. provides without destroying the infrastructure.
jordan holmes
With blackmail.
alex jones
Communists always want to exploit and take over a country.
They don't want to destroy it.
They're consummate thieves.
They want it.
unidentified
That's right.
dan friesen
So basically Skousen's theory is that the Chinese were creating this bioweapon in order to steal America.
Yeah.
It got out or something.
He's not really clear on the details.
jordan holmes
I didn't realize blackmail could work on that high of a scale.
dan friesen
Totally can.
jordan holmes
You just blackmail one or two guys and then you get the country?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That works.
dan friesen
Also, I don't know what article he's talking about there, and honestly, I don't care.
That decades-old article that proves this.
I tried to find it.
I have no fucking idea.
unidentified
Decades-old!
dan friesen
This is just a Cold War stan trying to keep the vibe alive.
Great.
jordan holmes
Hey, where's McCarthy when you need him?
dan friesen
So Skousen and Alex are talking about some rangy issues.
They touch on some other things like the economy, like the market going down.
Alex tries to suggest that Trump has co-opted the Fed and he's reeling it back in.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
And Skousen shuts that shit down hard.
alex jones
If you went about sinisterly making sure the global fiat system is under your control, these master planners have done it.
It seems like Trump knows that and in a way has hijacked it, or is he not in control of the Fed now?
unidentified
No, he's not in control of the Fed.
They're very, very independent from him.
joel skousen
He doesn't understand a lot about economics, and neither does Kudlow, his economic advisor.
dan friesen
No, no, no, Alex.
Trump is very dumb.
jordan holmes
That is a startlingly apt analysis from Skousen.
I will give him that.
dan friesen
Well, Skousen, like I've said consistently, he does not like Trump all that much.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He wishes that Trump knew things, but he doesn't.
jordan holmes
It would be nice.
dan friesen
That's his sort of line, is that Trump is very dumb.
He says a lot of things that we should like, and that's great, but he's utter disappointment because he's stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex has to put up with it, because a lot of his other friends are gone now, and Skousen will answer his calls.
jordan holmes
At least Skousen will say it to his face.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, that is to his credit.
He doesn't pull punches with Alex.
When Alex was like, Trump's co-opted the Fed.
No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
Trump is stupid, Alex.
dan friesen
Alex does not know anything about the economy, Alex.
jordan holmes
Alex, he is a moron.
dan friesen
Yes.
So, like I mentioned at the beginning of the show, Alex is going to be gone for the rest of the week because he's going to CPAC, which I should actually correct.
He's going to a fringe event.
Sort of like, you know, whenever there's WrestleMania, there'll be like side shows.
Other wrestling promotions will come and put on shows.
This is kind of like that, but sad.
alex jones
I'm going to be at CPAC tomorrow through Friday through Saturday.
jordan holmes
Adjacent.
alex jones
Point out the attacks on free speech and Trump's biggest failing.
I'm going to put on an event.
I'm the main speaker at an event.
National File is putting on an event.
jordan holmes
Get me on Facebook.
alex jones
The Omni that holds 1,000 people can be free.
We have to RSVP at NationalFile.com.
dan friesen
This event that Alex is speaking at is organized by National File, which is run by his employee, Tom Papert.
The list of speakers who are set to complain about being kicked off social media include Alex, Owen Schroer, Millie Weaver, and the former head of the Proud Boys, Gavin McGinnis, as well as the current head of the Proud Boys, Enrique Tarrio.
jordan holmes
Wow!
dan friesen
Great lineup.
jordan holmes
Murderer's Row of brilliant orators.
dan friesen
By the end of this episode, we'll actually add one to that list.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Reached for comment about their event, I would assume National File would say, Wham!
jordan holmes
I want to be back on Facebook!
dan friesen
These people are such outstanding losers.
When you consider who made the cut at this year's CPAC and realize that these people are too dumb to be given a speaking slot, it's impressive.
This year's CPAC is welcoming Diamond and Silk, Mark Levin, Charlie Kirk, Yer Bolsonaro's son.
What?
Sebastian Gorka, Glenn Beck, Dan Bongino, Brandon Straka, who did that walk away movement.
Hashtag walk away.
jordan holmes
Yair Bolsonaro's son has threatened raping people.
dan friesen
He's going to be speaking at CPAC.
jordan holmes
Raping politicians.
dan friesen
Candace Owens, James O 'Keefe, and what the hell, why not Rick from Pawn Stars?
jordan holmes
Okay, well, now that Rick from Pawn Stars is there, I'm back in.
I'm back in.
What?
Rick from Pawn Stars?
dan friesen
Yep.
This is a list of really embarrassing people to have be your marquee speakers.
And even among that crew of creeps and weirdos, Alex and his associates are too foul to be let in.
They're really the margins of the margins.
And it really does feel like it's only a matter of time before they're forced to accept the reality that the Trump movement or whatever that shit is does not want them.
They want acceptable, toned-down con men like Glenn Beck.
They don't want self-aggrandizing lunatics like Alex who will make everything about themselves and honestly can't be trusted.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Like, they will fucking turn on you.
Yeah.
You can hear in the way that Alex talks about his going to these events at CPAC that he's just trying to get Trump's attention.
And you know what?
It's not going to work.
jordan holmes
No, Alex.
dan friesen
This is actually a really bad road for Alex to go down unless he's trying to lead to a crisis point where he has to turn on Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because this isn't going to work out in any way.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
I don't know what he imagines.
He's going to do his event and then Don Jr. is going to show up and be like, Alex, I've been meaning to tell you I love you all along.
Actually, I could see that happening.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Honestly.
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
Yeah, now that I've said that out loud, Don Jr. might show up.
jordan holmes
I think it kind of gets to that, like, what level of delusion is he in his private thoughts as far as what does he think is really possible?
dan friesen
Well, that's interesting.
unidentified
You know?
jordan holmes
Because he can't...
Like, I would say, personally, there's no way that he can believe that he's getting back on Facebook or Twitter.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's just not going to happen.
dan friesen
It doesn't seem like it.
jordan holmes
But...
I could also see him somehow deluding himself into believing that if only he did this, or if only Trump said this, or if only he got the ear of the right guy.
dan friesen
I think that's a very human impulse to think, like, if this, then that.
Right.
Certainly.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's an interesting thought, though, about, like, his personal...
Internal thoughts.
Because you have this situation with the Bernie rally where everyone's trying to lick him.
And you know that that's nonsense coming out of his mouth.
But then you think about it and it's like, what's more private in terms of your private thoughts than your dreams?
alex jones
I go to that Bernie rally yesterday, and I don't say this for a fact.
I don't have a lot of nightmares.
But I went to that Bernie rally last night with 20,000, 30,000 people at it.
jordan holmes
12,700.
alex jones
They...
All looked like they'd escaped from a mental institution.
They all had green teeth.
They all had, a lot of them had piss running down their legs.
And they were almost all white and Hispanic.
I'm just saying an ethnic thing here.
It was very, very frightening.
Lots of footage of my bald spot for you.
Not that I care, but my God.
And we stayed outside the perimeter, as the police said.
They still came and attacked us and bloodied one of our security people, and the police did nothing.
jordan holmes
Owen Troyer hit that security guard with a bullhorn.
Alex.
dan friesen
It appears.
jordan holmes
Alex, we're not doing this.
dan friesen
But it gave him nightmares.
Alex had nightmares of green-teethed, piss-pantsed socialists.
jordan holmes
If I were Alex, I would be more afraid that Owen Troyer was going to hit me in the face with a bullhorn.
dan friesen
He's got to be afraid of that.
jordan holmes
That makes way more sense.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, you might have forgotten, because Alex is going off on this.
Tangent a little bit, but Joel Skousen's still on hold.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's there?
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
That looks very rude to his guests.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just making him hold while he rambles about nothing.
So he wants Joel to come in, fly into studio, and host.
I won't even be there.
You can just host by yourself, because people need to know about bugging out.
alex jones
Please come here and host for today.
Without me even...
I mean, I'll be here, but to put up graphs and the best strategic reload, because we need to all start...
I've been honest with the audience.
My family helped found Texas.
People ask, why do you live in Austin?
Well, my mom's family's from here.
My dad's family's from East Texas.
We've been here.
It's turned into the rear end of California as it dumps out.
I don't mean to be gross, but that's literally what it is.
I need to evacuate here.
And so I've really got to just start the new plan within two to three years to move.
Myself and whoever wants to go with the crew in an exodus out of here to dig in for what's coming.
Because I see Trump as a speed hump to the globalists, but the evil, the degradation, the degeneracy, the fallenness of the people.
And I don't say that for some power position.
It makes me feel like a worm that other people are so much weaker than I am.
I just morally, this wave of Satanism, I don't see how it can be defeated before God comes back.
unidentified
No, I agree.
jordan holmes
You agree.
dan friesen
You agree, Joel Skousen.
jordan holmes
Can't defeat the Satanists until God comes back.
dan friesen
I mean, God's not gonna be back in time.
I gotta get the fuck out of Austin.
jordan holmes
I don't understand what it is that, like, is the whole point that you can't defeat the Satanists until God comes back?
I remember reading the book.
dan friesen
I don't know what the point is.
jordan holmes
I remember reading the book of Revelations.
dan friesen
I do think this is an interesting thing for Alex, though.
I mean, he talks a lot of shit about leaving Austin.
I don't think he's ever going to do that.
jordan holmes
He's got an armored redoubt that he's bringing the Infowar staff to.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he wants to live out the rest of his life in post-apocalypse with Owen Schroyer.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Under constant fear of bullhorning.
dan friesen
I don't think that's ever going to happen.
Probably because...
Austin's an awesome city to live in.
It's the same reason why all these dicks live in New York and LA and complain about coastal elites.
jordan holmes
Oh, they hate the real America!
I love, love living in Manhattan.
It's really nice.
It's really nice, but they hate real America.
dan friesen
They hate flyover country.
I have a penthouse.
jordan holmes
I'm going to have to go to Martha's Vineyard for a couple weeks just to recover from how exhausted I am.
dan friesen
It's a very exhausting mentality that you see in this rhetorical...
But it is interesting that Alex is like, I want you to come in because we need to talk about bugging out and talk about strategic...
He stops himself in the middle of the word because that's the name of the documentary that they have already made about this very topic.
You have already done this.
jordan holmes
They've already pointed it out.
dan friesen
Hey Joel, why don't you come in and do the thing we've already done that's available for free online.
jordan holmes
Just play the video like a substitute teacher.
dan friesen
I think he realized that as he was talking.
So, we've had the health ranger, Mike Adams, shithead, come in.
jordan holmes
Complete shithead.
dan friesen
We've had Joel Skousen, anti-communist, mostly a shithead.
Although, he has enough ball bearings in his head to know that Trump doesn't know anything about the economy.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Which is refreshing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We've had Alex be a real dumb-dumb.
unidentified
Selling food.
dan friesen
Most of the show selling food.
And now we get something.
alex jones
disappointing.
unidentified
I engaged in quite a rant a few days ago when the major Israeli newspapers came out and called Nick Foyntes a white nationalist and was praising the fact that he was being deplatformed off the internet.
alex jones
Because Nick Foyntes, I wouldn't even call him white nationalist, but Really?
jordan holmes
I would.
dan friesen
Uh-oh, Alex is having Nick Fuentes back on.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
So, apparently Alex got mad the other day about an article in the Times of Israel about Nick Fuentes' YouTube channel getting taken down.
So weird that he's responding to an article in the Times of Israel as opposed to some other outlet.
Strange how Alex chooses to respond to a Times of Israel article when he's trying to defend a Holocaust denier.
jordan holmes
That is odd.
dan friesen
I wonder if that's intentional.
jordan holmes
That is odd.
dan friesen
Weird.
I don't know.
Anyway, Nick Fuentes is absolutely a white nationalist.
I've heard him do his shtick enough that it's very clear that he's 100% a white nationalist who just really doesn't want to be called that.
Because much like Alex, he wants to be accepted.
In the same way Alex is fighting a doomed campaign to take over the Trump community entirely, Nick Fuentes is also engaged in a battle to take down Turning Point USA so he can shift the college conservative world super far to the extreme right.
In order to have any success in that endeavor, he knows he can't just openly call himself accurate things.
That'll scare off the potential recruits.
Nick Flandes, on many occasions, has made arguments against non-white immigration to the United States.
He's argued that Jim Crow era was better for both blacks and whites and has held a consistent position that America should be a white homeland.
He does not disagree with any of the things that define a white nationalist.
He just doesn't like the term because it's bad for business.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Quote, the reason I wouldn't call myself a white nationalist, it's not because I don't see the necessity for white people to have a homeland and for white people to have a country.
It's because I think that kind of terminology is used almost exclusively by the left to defame.
And I think the terminology and the labels that we use, I don't think we can look at them outside the context of their connotation in America.
He only really has a problem with being called a white nationalist because the left calls him that and he knows that it tarnishes his ability to trick unsuspecting youths into thinking that isn't what he's about.
When Alex Jones is doing here, what he's doing is he's engaging in platforming and covering for an explicit white nationalist holocaust denier, which should surprise no one.
So, Alex, you know, it's interesting that he's going to CPAC.
Is it?
Well, not really.
But he's never gone before.
jordan holmes
He's never gone before?
dan friesen
Well, that's what he says.
jordan holmes
Oh, I was going to say.
I'm pretty sure he is.
dan friesen
I didn't care to check into that.
But I was like, why is it going?
Actually, I wasn't saying that.
But Alex explains what made him decide to go.
And it's Nick Fuentes.
alex jones
So, I decided when I heard all this last week to go ahead and pull the trigger and go to CPAC.
I've never gone to CPAC.
The biggest so-called Republican event every year.
I don't try to be in D.C. or be in L.A. or be in New York.
I try to be in Texas where I'm born and build something new.
I don't need to go to CPAC to be anointed and be knighted into Ben Shapiro's club with the gay whale Gorka.
Gorka!
dan friesen
So Alex heard that Nick Fuentes was doing his own side thing.
At CPAC.
And he's seeing all the attention that he's getting for attacking Ben Shapiro and attacking Charlie Kirk and Turning Point.
And Alex is like, oh, I could do that.
I should get in on that.
That's why he's going to CPAC and doing his own fringe thing.
He's inspired by the not-so-crypto-fascist Catholic monarchist wing that's trying to take over the just...
Offensively conservative.
Yeah.
Turning Point USA.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is one more proof that Alex has never had his own idea for anything ever.
This is a...
This is just...
He should be...
If you can get expelled for plagiarism, he should be expelled from the radio, right?
dan friesen
It's interesting how bad his instincts are, too, because this isn't the way to go.
I know you want to co-opt things, and sure, Nick Fuentes is going to get a lot of press, like he did at the Turning Point thing that Ben Shapiro was speaking at when he videotaped himself trying to confront Ben Shapiro while Shapiro was holding his baby, trying to walk to a hotel with his family, and Nick Fuentes followed him.
He got a lot of press for that, but that's not good.
That is not good press.
jordan holmes
All press is good press if you're a white nationalist.
dan friesen
That's press that makes people who don't agree with Ben Shapiro sympathize with Ben Shapiro.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And look at you like you're a piece of shit.
jordan holmes
He is a piece of shit, though.
dan friesen
True.
But that's not good.
jordan holmes
I mean, if your brand is white nationalist without saying white nationalist...
dan friesen
It's not.
jordan holmes
I apologize.
His brand is...
dan friesen
America first.
jordan holmes
America first.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Then, I mean, you're attracting people who are a piece of shit already anyway.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
You know.
dan friesen
But it hinders your ability to get in the spaces that you wish to be in.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Anyway, Nick Fuentes comes on and he has some complaints about CPAC that are fucking stupid.
nick fuentes
Friday, this Friday, we're going to be hosting an event called America First PAC, which is the same as CPAC Political Action Conference.
And it's going to be Michelle Malkin, myself, and Scott Greer.
And hopefully we're going to have an alternative, sort of like you guys are having.
The CPAC for perhaps people that don't fit in line with the never-Trump mainstream conservatism that's at CPAC.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, CPAC.
It's truly a hotbed of never-Trumpers.
jordan holmes
The never-Trump CPAC.
dan friesen
I mean, let me read you from this.
jordan holmes
Read the list again.
One more time, one more time.
dan friesen
Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Mike Pompeo, Elaine Chao, Betsy DeVos, Don Trump Jr., Mick Mulvaney.
Ivanka Trump.
Nikki Haley.
Nigel Farage.
jordan holmes
All of whom are Never Trumpers.
dan friesen
Jim Jordan.
unidentified
All.
dan friesen
Devin Nunes.
jordan holmes
Never Trumpers all the way.
dan friesen
Steve Scalise.
jordan holmes
Who could be more Never Trump than Steve Scalise?
dan friesen
Rick from Pawn Stars.
jordan holmes
Rick from Pawn Stars is amazingly Never Trump.
dan friesen
This event could not be further from Never Trump.
It's been completely co-opted by the Trump cult, and it's fascinating to see Nick Fuentes try and portray this list of people, including a fuckton of Trump administration officials and at least three members of the Trump family.
The reason for this is very obvious.
Trump isn't even Trump to people like Nick.
To him, Trump was a symbol of the coming back of an open white supremacist culture.
The promise of a Trump presidency was that of a return to a time when all social power rested in the hands of straight white men.
And so when he says never Trumper, he means people who aren't loyal to that symbol.
To Nick Fuentes, Trump himself could be a never Trumper because he could fail to live up to the goals of this movement.
This is why it might seem incoherent to call an event dominated by Trumpism never Trump.
But it makes perfect sense to someone like Nick.
It's just you've got to understand the code.
jordan holmes
I have to go to the bathroom in the same bathroom as people who are non-white.
That is Trump's fault.
I'm a never-Trumper now.
See?
Fair enough.
Way to go, Nick.
dan friesen
So he's got Michelle Malkin speaking at this...
Fuentes pack or whatever.
jordan holmes
This is like the Just for Laughs festival of shitty fucking right-wing lunatics.
dan friesen
We're going to end up talking a little bit about Michelle Malkin.
Not really any in-depth stuff.
jordan holmes
She doesn't have anything in-depth.
dan friesen
Apparently, her and Alex had a run-in about a decade ago that's going to come up.
That actually is up there in terms of what makes this episode pretty funny.
But before we get to that, we're going to talk about how she's been...
nick fuentes
world.
unidentified
Somebody like Michelle Malkin was a perfect example.
nick fuentes
You know, here was somebody who is one of these legendary America first conservatives.
She's been in legendary like 25 years.
And whether you like her, don't like her.
alex jones
But she turns into anti-Semite and is kicked out of her job.
nick fuentes
Exactly right.
Exactly right.
For simply refusing to disavow me and the Groypers and other young America first conservatives, YAF fires her and tells her you're not allowed to speak anymore.
We And so increasingly it's being difficult, or it's become difficult, excuse me, it's become difficult for America First, real, outside, dissident, right-wing types to organize anywhere.
We can't book spaces.
We can't get organizations to greenlight us.
You'll have mobs of Antifa show up.
alex jones
If anybody's wearing yellow stars in America, it's real America First conservatives.
nick fuentes
That's exactly right.
jordan holmes
It's like you can't burn across anywhere anymore, Dan.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's anywhere.
dan friesen
So Michelle Malkin is someone who's been in the conservative grift space for a long time.
And it's interesting to see how tenuous your position can be, even with tenure.
When the grift is done with you, it's done with you.
Her speaking engagements were managed by a group called the Young America's Foundation, which also manages events for all sorts of conservative folks, from Dinesh D'Souza to Ben Shapiro.
As it turns out, Ben Shapiro makes them a lot more money than she does, because when she decided to side with Nick Fuentes in his war against Ben Shapiro, Young America's Foundation dropped her from their talent roster.
Part of the problem is that she got confrontational about Shapiro's derision of Fuentes in a speech in front of the Young America's Foundation, which again also represents Shapiro's...
This is how this stuff works.
When the grift is done with you, you find the next grift and you keep moving.
And sometimes it's sad.
Everything else in that clip is just Nick Fuentes complaining about how no one wants to be associated with him, which makes sense.
I know that it does make things harder, and it's more difficult to do business when people know what kind of a crypto-fascist bigot you are.
But people saying that they don't want to rent you a space to hold a bigot rally in, that's not an encroachment of your free speech.
jordan holmes
It's literally the thing that you went to the fucking Supreme Court to get gay people away from having the cakes made for them.
Like, that is this...
They can deny you shit because of that.
That's your whole fucking game.
You don't get to win everything.
dan friesen
Nah, it's all discrimination.
jordan holmes
I hate them.
dan friesen
It's discrimination, man.
nick fuentes
We're the only ones where they're allowed to discriminate on social media.
We're the only ones you're allowed to discriminate where you can't book a hotel for a conference.
You can't book a space on a college campus for a speech.
alex jones
Because we represent true grassroots populism and what people want.
The fact is, we're selling what folks want, and we're real.
They can't handle that.
dan friesen
I think it's probably not a great idea for Alex to use the word we when he's talking about him and Nick giving people what they want.
That's either a clear indication that Alex Jones often has literally no idea who he's talking to or that he wants to be associated with someone like Nick Fuentes.
It's really hard to tell which is the case, but you better believe that if he's ever confronted with some of the stuff that Nick says on his own platforms, Alex will immediately call him controlled opposition like he does with Richard Spencer.
That is the route that this would go if Alex was confronted with all of the stuff that Nick does.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was surprised whenever they made the spiritual sequel to What Women Want, What Men Want.
I was surprised there wasn't more explicit white nationalist ideology coming from the minds of so many of those people she walked by.
That was a troublesome aspect.
dan friesen
So they talk about Nate getting kicked off YouTube, and Alex is just like, oh, it's because you dare fight with turning points.
Fuck off.
There's a lot of anti-turning point content you can find that's just fine.
jordan holmes
Eat yourselves a lot.
dan friesen
He got a warning and got demonetized a while back for hate speech, and he consistently engages in the exact same behaviors.
He's had chances, and he just won't not behave the way he does them.
So, hey.
YouTube's not for you, buddy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's how it works.
There are consequences.
dan friesen
And they clearly want to tailor their business in such a way as, like, this content is not what advertisers want to be associated with.
Boom.
Anyway, Alex starts talking to him about how, like...
Democrats are going to be gone, right?
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
No, no, of course, of course.
dan friesen
So at that point, there's going to need to be a two-party system.
jordan holmes
There has to be.
dan friesen
So what's it going to look like?
What are the Republicans going to split into?
jordan holmes
Well, there's going to be the white nationalists and then the whiter nationalists.
dan friesen
Nick has a real interesting suggestion.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
But you're going off what the demographics are.
And I'm not poo-pooing that.
I think you're right.
But I want to change the whole paradigm.
Defeat them completely.
The Democrats are all involved in crime, election fraud.
They can all be removed.
Without their command and control, their little commie followers go away.
I'm saying if we got real supremacy of Americana, how do you then split that into a two-party system?
unidentified
Well, it would be difficult to say.
nick fuentes
You know, people have said that it could line up with something like a workers' party, like you could have the working and middle class of all the different groups of people.
alex jones
Exactly against those that are more assigned to the corporatists.
nick fuentes
Right, right, against the elites.
dan friesen
Hmm, that's ringing a bell for me.
Where have I heard a super right-wing, xenophobic, crypto-fascist party call itself a workers' party?
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
dan friesen
It's on the tip of my tongue.
Oh, that's right, the Nazis.
jordan holmes
Oh, Dan.
dan friesen
Or the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
jordan holmes
Hey, now, they're socialists, though.
They don't support workers.
They support socialists.
dan friesen
You know, for someone who doesn't want people to think he's similar to a Nazi, Nick sure seems to invite a lot of comparisons when you're choosing our parties.
unidentified
No, okay.
dan friesen
Workers.
jordan holmes
Sure, the armbands were a bad idea.
Alright, the brown uniform's a real problem.
dan friesen
Seems like maybe that's on his mind.
jordan holmes
The Nazi iconography, yes, that is an issue.
But honestly, we're only mostly like the Nazis, Dan.
dan friesen
This guy's a douche.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So anyway, they sort of wrap up.
It's mostly a complaining session about how they're all like, everyone doesn't like them.
jordan holmes
Are the snowflakes so mean to me?
dan friesen
Right, we're going to have a rally about it.
unidentified
All the snowflakes everywhere mean to me.
dan friesen
So now Alex invites Nick to his event.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And we get into a little bit of history about Alex Jones and Michelle Malkin.
alex jones
Nick, I want to invite you and Michelle Malkin.
I'm going to fly out Friday night, so I won't come to your event.
Didn't invite me, but that's fine.
I get...
I screamed at Michelle Malkin 11 years ago.
I wanted her to forgive me.
I probably was out of control when her security guy punched me in the arm.
I hit him back.
Or he hit me with his elbow.
But I like Michelle.
Tell her I said hi.
jordan holmes
Wait, he got into a fight with Michelle Malkin's security guard?
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll get into it a little bit later.
But yeah, there's apparently a deep history here of not liking Michelle Malkin to the point of assault with another security guard, which also seems to be like a pattern.
So Alex's theory, or not theory, I guess, but the way he's been pitching things for this entire episode is that I heard you were doing this thing around CPAC.
And so National File, Tom Papert, my employee, was running another event.
And I was like, okay, yeah, let's do that and get Nick Fuentes for it.
He is operating under the assumption that National File tried to get Nick to be a part of their rally.
And we're unable to do so.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So, Alex brings this up, and it seems like that didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
I want to invite you, because I know Nashville Fault wants to invite you, to our event Wednesday.
You want to come to that at the Omni?
nick fuentes
Absolutely.
I would love to go.
alex jones
They haven't reached out to you?
nick fuentes
I don't think they have reached out to me yet.
alex jones
Okay, because when they were asking me like a week ago to go, and I love the guys over there, and I even said, hey, let me sponsor, because they were getting a smaller event.
And I said, hell, for like 20 grand more, you can get a bigger one.
dan friesen
Do you understand what's happening here?
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Even Nationalphile.
jordan holmes
They did not want.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
And Alex is like, oh, my God.
dan friesen
Hey.
Jordan, a thousand points of information are coming together for me, and my wisdom is telling me that even Tom Pepper was kind of like, I don't know if I want this asshole involved in our event.
jordan holmes
Nick Fuentes is the Alex Jones of Alex Jones' events.
He doesn't want it there.
dan friesen
So Alex is like, yeah, get Nick Fuentes.
jordan holmes
Oh, we tried.
dan friesen
We weren't able to.
jordan holmes
He was unavailable.
Sorry.
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He disconnected his phones.
dan friesen
That's certainly my theory.
jordan holmes
You're breaking up.
alex jones
I'm sponsoring it, but I'm not telling them who to have there.
I said, I want Nick Fuentes.
And I said, I know they're having an event.
You want to get Michelle Malkin?
Because I want to like...
People love people coming back.
I like to get up there with her and tell her, I'm sorry.
I was mean to you.
You know, she was full of crap saying the Marines didn't throw a puppy off a clip.
They did.
It was a real puppy.
She said, I lied.
It was a robot.
Whatever.
dan friesen
Whatever.
jordan holmes
Put it behind us.
We'll just put it behind us.
I clearly am not still holding a grudge.
dan friesen
She said I said it was a robot.
jordan holmes
So, obviously, I can just put it all behind us.
dan friesen
So, as it turns out, at the 2008 DNC, Alex got into a little fight with Michelle Malkin.
According to Westworld, he started yelling at her, which caused her to try and flee, but Alex kept harassing her and following her, yelling, quote, shame on you, you little monster, you little fascist piece of trash.
jordan holmes
That sounds like him.
unidentified
Yep.
Yep.
dan friesen
I guess his beef with her is about a YouTube video that was coming around around that time that was of a soldier throwing a puppy off a cliff in Iraq.
I have no idea what the deal is with that video, but I do know that Infowars wrote a lot of articles about how Michelle Malkin was denying U.S. military atrocities in the war on terror because she didn't condemn the video, or I guess I think she speculated that it was a stuffed animal.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
If that was a real video, that's awful.
But I should also point out that I haven't heard Alex say anything about Trump pardoning war criminals, one of whom was charged with, quote, shooting at civilians for sport.
Another was charged with ordering the murder of two unarmed Afghan villagers.
Let this be a teachable moment.
When you're not on Alex's team, questioning a video of a soldier throwing a dog off a cliff makes you a fascist piece of trash.
When you are on Alex's team, when you pardon literal monsters who've been charged with war crimes, it doesn't even come up.
jordan holmes
I mean, when you are a fascist piece of trash.
dan friesen
Doesn't come up.
jordan holmes
Not a big deal.
dan friesen
Does not come up.
jordan holmes
It doesn't seem like it's the issue.
dan friesen
No.
So National File was creating this little event, and they had like a 300-seater or whatever.
Alex has already said this.
Get a bigger venue.
jordan holmes
I'll give you 20 grand that I totally have, because we're definitely not running out of money here.
dan friesen
And Alex makes it a little too clear in this next clip that they're living on their listener's dime.
alex jones
I like the political incorrectness, too.
nick fuentes
Oh, absolutely.
alex jones
And you haven't done the things they say you've done.
Neither have I. And I'm just...
That's why they said, hey, we come speak at this venue.
And I said, that venue holds 300 people.
I said, get the bigger venue.
They were going to get the Trump Hotel and that got sold before that.
I said, so, again, it's not my event, but I am paying for part of it because I just want to have where CPAC used to meet in a big ballroom.
And, hey, I'm paying for the drinks.
The listeners are paying.
I'm getting a round of drinks to everybody who's there and some food.
dan friesen
So, you know, it's...
It's one thing.
jordan holmes
This show is fucking abuse.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
This is abuse.
dan friesen
It really is.
jordan holmes
This is abusing your audience and then slapping their faces in front of them.
That is insult.
dan friesen
I needed to do a larger publicity stunt than National File was aiming to do, so I paid $20,000 that's coming from the listeners for a larger ballroom to satisfy my ego.
And also, when you come, Nick, have a drink.
It's on the listeners.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
That is abuse.
dan friesen
It's rough.
jordan holmes
That is fucked up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we're done with Nick Fuentes now because, I mean, most of the stuff they say is meaningless and just whining.
But Alex is also trying to sell his duct tape that you put on your mouth.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And in doing so, he makes a claim that I find dubious.
alex jones
Everybody that goes to OperationWin2020.com And puts it in your address, gets a free packet of these, 20 of these.
You can buy them at cost up to 1,000 pieces.
We're going to Trump rallies.
We're not taking them over.
We're not disrupting.
No, it's not how I operate.
I'm not a leftist like Bernie.
Silence is powerful.
We'll just put it right over our mouths.
Hand out a pack of them.
It looks like duct tape.
dan friesen
It does look like duct tape.
jordan holmes
Is it duct tape?
dan friesen
It's not.
It doesn't rip out your beard or whatever.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's nice.
dan friesen
I think it's really funny for Alex to be like, disrupting events is not my style.
jordan holmes
It's about silence, Dan.
Me, the guy whose entire career is based around my bullhorn skills.
dan friesen
Right.
King of the Bullhorn.
jordan holmes
It is about silence.
dan friesen
He's saying, that's not my style.
Disrupting events is not my style.
I'm not like Bernie.
Earlier in the episode, he's talking about disrupting a Bernie rally with a bullhorn.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but a Bernie rally is the disruption.
So by disrupting the Bernie rally, you're de-disrupting.
dan friesen
He's also trying to lure Michelle Malkin to his event by telling Nick Fuentes to apologize for yelling at her with a bullhorn a decade ago.
jordan holmes
Well, that's not disruption.
That's re-disruption of wealth, Dan.
dan friesen
All he does is yell at people.
jordan holmes
He's not a big fan of disrupting events.
dan friesen
All he does is yell at events.
jordan holmes
He doesn't disrupt events.
dan friesen
There's nothing that's more his style.
jordan holmes
Name one event that he's disrupted in the past, I don't know, six weeks.
dan friesen
That time he showed up, that Hillary thing with a tank?
jordan holmes
That wasn't disruptive.
He just showed up with a tank and started screaming at people.
dan friesen
He showed up at a Trump rally with a tank?
jordan holmes
All right, so you take a tank to a couple rallies and all of a sudden it's a disruption.
dan friesen
All of a sudden you're a tank guy.
Whatever.
So Alex realizes that there's a lot of headlines he hasn't gotten to.
Because he is too busy talking to Nick Fuentes, Bill Skousen, and Mike Adams about dumb bullshit trying to sell his food.
jordan holmes
Sorry, I've been talking to two white nationalists and an asshole.
alex jones
It's just too much going on.
Got Weinstein convicted on a bunch of counts.
Didn't even cover that because the virus is so big.
So I'm looking at hundreds of articles.
You know, I don't just spread these articles out here to look like...
Karl Rove reportedly used to have a huge stack of note cards to intimidate people in debates.
Well, I wouldn't bring those note cards unless I was going to use them.
I mean, I've looked at all this news.
I've covered it.
Makes my head spin.
dan friesen
You have not covered any of that news.
jordan holmes
That is fucking...
That is criminal.
dan friesen
That is.
jordan holmes
How dare you say that to me?
dan friesen
Unless all of those papers are just pictures of his food buckets.
jordan holmes
Yeah, how...
How dare you?
dan friesen
It's offensive.
jordan holmes
How fucking dare you?
dan friesen
Also, the reason that he doesn't cover the Weinstein conviction is because it runs counter to his narratives about how these elite globalist types never get punished.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the fact that Weinstein was charged is kind of a problem for his narrative.
jordan holmes
It does fuck things up a little bit.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So he can touch on it and be like, oh, I didn't even get to this.
jordan holmes
He got charges.
Coronavirus!
Buy my food!
dan friesen
Actually dwelling on it for any period of time is not good for him.
jordan holmes
No, it's not a good idea.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip here, and it's another little headline that he's got that is dumb.
alex jones
There's more articles.
Bernie's campaign funneled millions to a company connected to Bernie's wife.
You mean Bernie stealing campaign money?
No.
Dirty commies?
You would trust him.
He loves you.
He is Bernie Sanders.
dan friesen
This is about a story on National File, which again is run by Alex's employee, Tom Papert.
The allegation is that one of the vendors that the campaign, Bernie's campaign, used to run ads was a company called Old Town Media LLC.
And apparently two of the people who work at that company know Bernie's wife.
There's no indication.
jordan holmes
Sorry, what now?
They just know her?
dan friesen
Yeah, they're friends or something.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
There's no indication at all that Ms. Sanders made any money from this arrangement or that there's anything untoward here.
And trust, and to be fair, I didn't look into this at all.
I just took at face value the allegations on National File, and that's what they are.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
I'm not sure exactly what this article is purporting to show, other than possibly that Jane Sanders knows some people who work at a PR company that her husband's campaign uses.
I don't know.
That's nothing compared to what Trump has been doing.
jordan holmes
Uh, no.
Come on!
What?
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
How has he been profiting off of his presidency whatsoever?
dan friesen
According to the Washington Examiner, Trump's campaign, quote, steered more than $190,000 in campaign contributions to Trump-owned properties, businesses, and family members in the fourth quarter of 2019.
jordan holmes
That's just...
That's just...
Rampant corruption.
I don't even have a funny answer for that.
That's fucking tragic.
dan friesen
The Trump Foundation had to close after being forced to pay a $2 million settlement stemming from their directing charity funds to campaign uses.
There's an outrageous level of self-dealing that Trump has been involved in while running for and being president.
Again, let this be a teachable moment.
If you're not on Alex's team, the fact that your wife knows someone at a PR firm you use is proof of rampant corruption.
If you are on Alex's team, engaging in a pattern of very extensive self-enrichment from your campaign is not corruption at all.
jordan holmes
Not a problem!
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
And it's not mentioned, because I don't know about that stuff.
jordan holmes
Hey, no, there's no way to find out about anything like this.
And I can't think of anything in the Constitution that would expressly prohibit this kind of behavior from happening.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
Nothing.
dan friesen
So we get to the end of this episode, and I should be, I mean, I feel like I owe an apology.
I feel like I have not been into this.
This episode was really, really stupid.
It almost feels like Alex knows that he's leaving tomorrow and he's going to have so much fun yelling at people in D.C. But not in a disruptive way.
He's going to have a fun time making a stunt with his shithead proud boy friends.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're not white nationalists.
dan friesen
No, and all the money that people have donated to keep InfoWars alive.
jordan holmes
It's going to the InfoWars.
dan friesen
Sure, and he's going to be able to get drunk in D.C. and have fun.
jordan holmes
Who among us hasn't needed a drink to survive the Infoward?
Hey, look, I'm not opposed to that.
dan friesen
But I get the feeling that Alex knows that he's about to go on vacation and this episode is a desperate push for people to buy the food.
And then on top of that, it's just stupid.
The whole thing about being assaulted at the Bernie rally makes no sense based on the evidence provided by Infowars itself.
It's paper thin and it's offensive the way it's being used.
And the rest of the stuff is just really stupid except for the idea of an emotional sport pelican.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you love that.
dan friesen
I would like a pelican.
jordan holmes
I don't think there's any possible way to be excited about a show that...
It has just been a complete assault on reality.
Like, there's just no other way to describe it than literally everything that he said.
dan friesen
It's just gaslighting over and over and over again.
jordan holmes
Everything.
The virus shit, the economy, the fucking everything is a complete and utter...
The video that shows a thing that's the opposite of the thing that he's calling it to your face.
This show is, if you are a listener of this show, you might as well just walk up to Alex and let him slap you in the face and then go back to the end of the line to wait for it to happen all over again.
This is fucking incredible.
God!
dan friesen
And more so than usual.
It's often that.
That's not a unique phenomenon on this episode, but it felt like way more...
jordan holmes
It's glaring.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And it kind of bummed me out.
It put me in a little bit of a mild depression around this, but we're through it, and I guess probably on our next episode we'll have maybe some...
Something fucked up that happens at CPAC.
So we'll see what happens.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
What if they all got the coronavirus at CPAC?
Wouldn't that be hilarious?
dan friesen
No, it wouldn't.
I don't wish that on it.
jordan holmes
I don't mean that.
I mean, just from an irony standpoint.
dan friesen
If I read it in a novel, it would be an interesting twist.
jordan holmes
See, there we go.
Okay.
All right.
We do have a website, Dan.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
unidentified
We are.
jordan holmes
If you'd like to download the show, please go to iTunes or podcast apps or whatever it is you like.
Leave a review.
Donate to the show.
We would be very happy.
dan friesen
We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm an emotional sport pelican.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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