In Knowledge Fight’s breakdown of Alex Jones’ April 21–22, 2013, broadcasts, Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes expose his shifting narratives—from blaming "globalists" to fabricating Navy SEAL drills and martial law claims—while debunking false flags like Johar Tsarnav’s alleged tracheotomy or MI6 ties. They dismiss Russian FSB warnings as irrelevant, the Drudge Report headline manipulation as dishonest, and Skousen’s unverified backpack video as outright deception, noting Jones’ pattern of repeating baseless theories to stoke outrage. His exploitation of trauma for profit and radicalization risks normalizing extremism, leaving listeners isolated in a cycle of conspiracy-driven paranoia. [Automatically generated summary]
I had been trying to get it for a while, and I'm sorry there was a bit of a delay, but I really wanted my brother to design it, and he's a very busy guy.
And so getting the actual design together took a little longer than expected.
And then I'd gone to a couple places here in Chicago that I just didn't feel comfortable when I went in.
Nothing against them.
I'm sure they're fine joints, but I just didn't.
I got a feeling of like, eh, I'd rather feel totally comfortable when I go through with this.
Yeah, there was a fun little text exchange that you had while you were in the tattoo parlor, and the guy is making the stencil, and you're texting me just like, I don't know if this is good.
And for those of you who aren't on Facebook and can't end up seeing this picture, it's an apple with a bite out of it, a glass of whiskey, and life is very fragile.
So in honor of that, and it's in that same spirit of thanking folks who facilitated and pushed my back into a corner where I have to get a dump tattoo.
So, Jordan, today, one of the things I wanted to do is also, I feel like in the spirit of tying up loose ends, I'm very bad at taking care of business that's outside of just doing this show.
And then something else I've been meaning to do, and I have been just terrible with, is I promised that we would have a special drop for the creator of our theme song, DJ Danarchy.
The opposite of like what are like what are the bright spots?
I would look at you very confused.
I don't know if there are any bright spots.
So here we are, Jordan.
When we last left Alex in 2013, he was coming down from the high he was writing when there was a complete absence of real information about the investigation into the Boston bombing, and he was free to create his own narrative wholesale.
After the Watertown shootout on the night of April 18th into the morning of April 19th, which left Tamerlin dead and his brother Johar armed and on the loose, Alex's show on the 19th was a completely bizarre affair.
Up to that point, he'd been insisting that the globalists had planned to blame a white patsy he'd discovered by looking at pictures that he found on 4chan.
But because Alex released those photos, the globalists were forced to change their plans.
Then, after the FBI released the images of the Sarnev brothers, Alex pivoted the narrative, since all the stuff he'd been yelling about for days had literally no relation to anything happening in the real world.
Now the globalist plan all along had been to blame the imaginary Navy SEALs Alex also decided were there at the marathon based on his analysis, again, of pictures he found on 4chan.
And since Alex also somehow blew up that plan that the globalists had, they were putting Boston into a state of martial law so they could go around and kill all the Patsies who were in the pictures that, again, Alex found on 4chan, so they could, these people that they were cleaning up couldn't reveal that it was all the drill.
And magically, just like that, Alex has created a preemptive excuse for why no one has ever come out and confirmed his dumb theories.
The globalists took them all out.
As we've discussed already, those men in the pictures that Alex found on 4chan that he thinks are SEALs are actually members of a couple of different states' National Guard civil support teams who are on scene at all large-scale public events, ranging from one of the largest marathons in the world all the way down to just MLB games.
If you wanted to put the effort in, you could almost certainly figure out who these people are and find evidence of them still being alive and working with their CSTs.
I'm not saying that I did that, but I am saying that if I did, I would still respect their privacy and never discuss their personal details on this show.
On his show on the 19th, Alex seems to have a keen awareness that his normal incitement-laden behavior may be way too dangerous to engage in while a city is in the middle of a large-scale manhunt.
That's not the time to call on citizens to rise up because it's the time when it's most likely to be taken seriously by the most unhinged of his listeners.
Alex took a very strange approach and barely even talked about Boston being in a shelter-in-place request, about how an MIT police officer had been murdered the night before, about how there had been a shootout in a residential neighborhood.
If you didn't know that these things were happening, you would not learn about them by listening to that day's InfoWars episode.
I can tell you that very confidently.
You'd learn about how Stuart Rhodes is a baby about permits and how Larry Pratt hates Muslims.
Alex returns on Sunday the 21st, and by that point, the situation is largely resolved.
To get us up to speed on what's happened, here we go.
In the very early morning of the 19th, Governor Duval Patrick put out a shelter-in-place request asking the people to stay indoors to help police better carry out their manhunt.
At no point is this a demand, and it's not enforced by any coercion nor any force.
Mass transit is temporarily suspended in the city, and Massachusetts National Guard is called in to assist police in carrying out door-to-door searches in targeted areas.
As the day drags on, though, the authorities keep coming up empty.
At 2 p.m., that evening's Red Sox game is canceled, and by 4.30 p.m., the command center is starting to wonder if there's any point in maintaining this shelter-in-place request.
They've done their sweep, and they haven't found Johar, and they're beginning to fear that he has escaped the perimeter.
At 5.30 p.m., service resumes on mass transit, and at 6.25 p.m., the shelter-in-place request is lifted.
Then, 17 minutes later, at 6.42 p.m., the police get a 911 call from someone who lived at 67 Franklin Street, telling them that there is a bleeding man hiding in his boat, which is parked out in his yard.
He'd not noticed that his boat had seemed to have been tampered with previously because he'd stayed indoors honoring the shelter-in-place request.
After the request had been lifted, he went outside to get some air, and he noticed that things weren't right.
He looked under the tarp and saw a person inside.
Police immediately jump into action, and they form a new perimeter around this address.
At 6.54 p.m., police fire on the boat, but they're quickly told to cease fire.
The officer who shot at the boat did not have proper authorization, but he saw motion.
And as the suspect was thought to be armed and known to be willing to fire at police, the last time they encountered him, he made a very bad assumption that he was about to be fired on.
And then there was that sort of phenomenon of contagious fire.
No, it's a common fucking joke in so many things where some guy will fire off his machine gun and then 30 guys go off and then the commander's like, Jesus Christ, what are you guys doing?
And they're like, oh, this guy over here, I don't know.
So ultimately, Johar does leave the boat at 8:41 p.m. and surrenders to the police.
The nightmare the city has been living in for about four days has come to an end.
Four people are dead, and one has suffered injuries that will lead to his eventual death, and hundreds are injured.
Countless people's lives have been changed in ways that it would be impossible to quantify in numbers, but at very least, the suspects are dead or in custody, and the people of Boston can breathe easily and begin the difficult process of rebuilding and healing.
But that can also wait until the morning.
That night, people flooded the streets in celebration, more or less forming flash mobs to decompress and release their tension.
College students got drunk and yelled USA in large groups.
More adult Bostonians gathered to applaud and thank the law enforcement officers for putting themselves on the line to catch the culprit.
Watching the footage now, even six years later, the feeling of unity in that catharsis is palpable.
By the time Alex gets on air the afternoon of April 21st, the chaos is over.
The manhunt is complete.
The temporary deployment of the Massachusetts National Guard has come to an end.
The city of Boston had already announced a memorial to the victims and survivors planned to be placed in Copley Square.
The suspects are no longer on the run, and the details of the actual investigation that took place over the preceding six days are starting to become public.
The cement has dried, but Alex has managed to make a hellacious dent in the surface in the meantime.
As we jump back in here, we will see Alex entering the next phase of his conspiracy-building operation.
When there was no information available, he knows that he needs to lay the groundwork for his narrative.
He does this by immediately insisting the event is a false flag, displaying a confident, knee-jerk defiance that draws people in who mistake that confidence as being based in some kind of a wisdom or rebelliousness.
As any information has come out, he's worked to integrate it into his narrative.
And that's important.
In this stage that we've been looking at so far, he doesn't adapt his narrative to match reality.
He distorts reality to conform to his narrative.
That family guy episode was actually about a Tea Party guy who joins the Taliban.
That's shifting reality to match his narrative.
CNN announced that the arrest had been made not because they got bad information, but because they were scared of Alex's coverage of the pictures he found on 4chan.
The courthouse in Boston was evacuated not because of a bomb scare, but because Alex blew up their plan, so they had to switch out their patsys.
Everything that Alex has been doing serves to use his overarching explanation that this was a false flag that the globalists are now trying to cover up to make sense of everything that happens that might seem confusing because of the absence of information.
It's the rhetorical equivalent of a miracle pill that cures everything that he's trying to sell.
Now that the suspects are in custody or dead, Alex has to change to the next stage of conspiracy building, which is discrediting every piece of information that comes out about the official suspects and the story surrounding their crime and arrest.
This is still somewhat aimed at distorting reality to fit his narrative, but it also has a necessity, it necessarily involves the opposite as well.
There will be elements of reality that he just can't pretend aren't real.
So in order to keep this going, he does have to fine-tune his narrative along the way.
There's a little bit of this in the shift to saying that they planned to blame the SEALs all along.
That's an attempt to jettison the white Patsy narrative as being relevant to the conversation at all, because it's not.
That's him shifting his narrative in order to better suit the facts that are coming out.
There are two elements of what Alex is doing that I find morally repugnant that I'd like to just say up front.
The first is that what this is doing is specifically in service of creating an alternative reality that Alex then makes money off of.
It's profoundly disrespectful to the victims and survivors of the attack, as well as the larger community of Boston.
He's taking their pain and anxiety and trying to turn it into profit, which is abhorrent.
The other thing is that if Alex has his way, he's trying to get Johar Zarnev off the hook for the bombing.
Now, in 2019, it's very easy for me to say that I have literally zero doubt about Johar's guilt.
It's been very well substantiated both by hard evidence, circumstantial evidence, and his uncoerced confession and apology.
There is a concrete reality here, and it's that Johar and Tamerlan Zarnev committed this bombing.
Alex is working as hard as he can to create a reality where either they didn't do it or they did it because the government was using them as patsies, which serves to shift culpability more than a little bit.
In a very concrete and real sense, Alex Jones, right now, as we're looking at him in 2013, is making money by doing damage control for terrorists.
The younger Tsarnav brother climbs out of the boat and minutes later is a tracheotomy and can't talk and is now in critical condition.
Dead men tell no tales and now it's in the news they're drugging him because the hospital staff aren't on the globalist payroll.
They need to keep him drugged until they say he's okay and then he's going to be taken to a black site and he'll be given, I mean, you can give people amnesic drugs that are easy to get with his prescription where they'll do whatever you want.
You can say, walk off this cliff and give somebody four or five halcyon, they will.
Every single time there's some high-profile event, Alex immediately says the person who's arrested for it is going to be drugged up, usually on halcyon.
It's a very important piece of his strategy because as long as he insistently argues that arrested terrorists are drugged up, it doesn't matter if they confess to their crimes.
No piece of actual evidence that they're guilty can penetrate this conspiracy theory at that point.
Anything the police say is just a cover-up of the false flag.
Anything the perpetrator says is just the result of them being drugged by the globalists to cover up the false flag.
It's basically an insurance policy for his narrative that he needs to invoke whenever a suspect is not killed during the arrest.
Leave aside for a moment that when someone who's suffering from a mental illness is incarcerated, it would be profoundly inhuman to not give them appropriate care, including appropriate psych evaluations if needed, and also if needed, medication.
Where Alex sees brainwashing and evil drugging, the reality is generally just getting psychotic people on antipsychotic medication so they can ethically be put on trial.
Yeah, it is just inhuman to watch somebody with a very serious mental illness spew their nonsense into the fucking etherphere.
Like if you're in his family or married to him or work at the same place that he does, if you just, if you keep a man from getting the medication that he needs to live a full, rich, healthy life, you know, I think that's where we're getting into trouble.
So this tracheotomy argument that Alex is making was all the rage in conspiracy communities in the days after this arrest.
And guess what?
It largely traces back to an article that Alex posted on InfoWars.
The basic gist of this conspiracy is that after Johar had surrendered, the police gave him a throat injury so he couldn't speak and thus not blow the whistle about how he was being set up.
Of course, this theory doesn't take into account how he was still perfectly able to write as he did as he was being questioned immediately by law enforcement when he was in the hospital.
In October 2018, court filings were made public that included 79 pages that Johar had made and written while he was being questioned by the police.
On notebook paper, he wrote, lawyer, and quote, listen, buddy, I know my rights.
No one is at risk.
No bombs.
No one will die.
He asked the police, quote, is my brother alive?
A number of times.
In a moment where he seems to be acknowledging his own guilt, he says, quote, we're at war, my friend, when he's discussing the U.S. military presence in Iraq and Afghanistan.
He even says, quote, America is at war.
Is it not?
I did what is necessary.
My people are dying.
Other notes seem to be clearly indicating that he's telling the police that this was a conspiracy of two.
Quote, no one else was involved.
Quote, only he knew.
Quote, my brother and I. Quote, we told no one.
He pleads for them not to arrest Tamerlane's wife, who he swears had no idea what they were planning.
Whatever would have been achieved by Alex's conspiracy theory of the police injuring Johar's neck would not have mattered at all.
It's not like he was scheduled to do a press tour, right, after getting arrested and now couldn't because he couldn't talk.
He ultimately might not have been able to speak, but he was perfectly able to communicate, and he did.
A bunch.
Also, he was able to speak again by April 22nd when he had his first preliminary hearing, which is in stark opposition to Alex's narrative, which is that Johar may never be able to speak again.
In his trial in 2015, Johar took the stand and said the following: Quote, immediately after the bombing, which I am guilty of, if there's any lingering doubt about that, let there be no more.
And throughout this trial, more of those victims were given names.
More of those victims had faces, and they had burdened souls.
Now, all of those who got up on that witness stand in that podium related to us, to me, I was listening, the suffering that was and the hardship that still is, with strength and with patience and with dignity.
Now, Allah says in the Quran that no soul is burdened with more than it can bear, and you told us just how unbearable it was, how horrendous it was, this thing I put you through.
And I know that you kept that much.
I know that there isn't enough time in the day for you to have related to us everything.
I also wish far more people had a chance to get up there, but I took them from you.
Now, I am sorry for the lives I've taken, for the suffering that I've caused you, for the damage that I've done, irreparable damage.
I ask Allah to have mercy upon me and my brother and my family.
I ask Allah to bestow his mercy upon those present here today.
And Allah knows best those deserving of his mercy.
He may have pled not guilty initially, but his defense never really even tried to say that he didn't do the bombing.
Anyway, about that neck injury.
When police apprehended Johar, he was pretty banged up.
He'd been in a shootout with the police the night before, and then was inside that boat when officers were shooting at it, not to mention the flashbangs.
In the process of that, he suffered some serious injuries, according to the trauma surgeon who attended to him when he arrived at the hospital, Dr. Stephen Ray Odom.
Quote, he has multiple gunshot wounds, the most severe of which appears to have entered through the left side of his mouth and exited the left face, lower face.
This was initially thought to be a self-inflicted wound, a botched attempt at suicide, but he didn't have a gun in the boat.
So the more likely explanation is that a stray shot happened, and it was remarkable that he survived.
Dr. Odom said that the injury caused damage to his pharynx, which was treated in the hospital, including the help of a trach tube that was done at the hospital, not on scene.
Many conspiracy theorists use that second photo of him with his neck wrapped in gauze as proof that the police were putting a tube into Johar's throat at the scene to silence him.
And that's absurd, since the image just shows police using an assisted breathing mask, which is non-invasive.
Everything that's provided as being suspicious here is exactly what you would expect to see if police encountered a suspect with a wound that was potentially impairing their breathing.
They were performing first aid.
Right.
None of this is real at all.
It's based on out of context and sort of manipulative photos.
Like the fact that they point so strongly to the one with his face in shadows as like, you don't see any wound.
This is how he, like, this is such a good indication of him taking these boutique kind of like trivial issues and trying to make them super important when it's like, hey, the Boston bombing is resolved.
So Bleacher Report did an oral history of the speech Ortiz gave, and here's what Jenikowski said.
Quote, I knew that there would be people who saw that he had used the F-word on the airwaves and would ask me, oh, is that a violation of the FCC rule?
After days of being on edge, a terrifying 24 hours of this uncertain manhunt, the city was allowed to breathe a collective sigh of relief.
Relief is good.
And what David Ortiz did is hit a pressure release button, providing a rallying cry.
And no one, not even the censorious FCC, couldn't see that this moment was important for so many people.
Equal measures of rebelliousness and reassurance.
It was perfect.
Big Poppy would end up hitting a grand slam to tie game two of the ALC championships and keep Boston's playoff hopes alive that year, ultimately leading them to win the World Series with Ortiz taking home the honors of World Series MVP.
It's really the stuff of fairy tales.
And anyone who can't appreciate the 2013 Red Sox is either a complete monster or just a diehard Yankees fan.
I empathize with what Alex is saying about selective enforcement, but I also think that there's room for understanding extenuating circumstances.
If the excuse was just David Ortiz was emotional, like Alex is trying to present, you know, like as if he had just hit a game-winning home run, then I think that excuse is a little bit soft.
Given that he was just asked to speak before the first Red Sox came back after the city was terrorized by bombers, I think it's probably okay to enforce obscenity laws a little selectively in that case.
Alex is talking about a woman named Rosemary Lemberg, who was arrested for drunk driving on April 12th after her car veered into a bike lane, then into oncoming traffic, allegedly.
The officer who pulled her over saw an open vodka bottle in the passenger seat.
So this was what you call an open and shut case.
According to an article in the Austin Chronicle, the officer wrote in his affidavit that she was, quote, cooperative and polite, which seems counter to Alex's characterization.
The day after her arrest, she wrote letters to the county attorney and the court and said that she would plead guilty and that she expected no leniency.
According to a later Chronicle article, she was sentenced to 45 days in jail and lost her license for 180 days.
She also had to pay a $4,000 fine, which is the highest fine allowable for a DWI she was charged with, that form of DWI.
The strictness of the punishment is particularly notable since this is a first offense.
Like, it's very harsh punishment for a first offense.
It's kind of uncommon if you don't kill somebody or hurt somebody to get any jail time for a first offense DUI.
The Democrats never said that she was above the law, and neither did she.
They just felt that a DWI isn't necessarily something that you should get thrown out of office for, particularly when you take responsibility for your actions.
All the details Alex is rattling off, particularly her spitting on people, is not substantiated.
Video from Lemberg's arrest has been released, and I won't lie, it's not a good look, but it's not too different from how just about anybody would be after getting arrested for a DWI.
She's trying to talk her way out of it and being a little bit rude to the police, but it's not that crazy.
Right, right, right, right.
I would imagine a lot of people would look way worse if you had video of them getting arrested and still kind of drunk.
Alex is using allegations that were put out against Lemberg by her GOP enemies who were trying to use her DWI as a way to get her out of office.
Then Governor Rick Perry would try to use the DWI to try to get her to step down, threatening that if she didn't, he would defund her office.
She refused.
He defunded her office, and then Perry got indicted by a grand jury for trying to coerce a public official to resign.
Perry fought the indictment, and after he ended up leaving office, all charges against him were dismissed in some sort of a deal.
Anyway, this whole thing is a big two-sided mess.
On one side, you had a DA who got caught dunk driving, lashed out a little bit, then apologized and submitted herself to the process of making things right.
It's always wrong to drive drunk, but if you do and learn your lesson, it's the best possible outcome short of not doing it ever.
On the other hand, you had a concerted effort to blow the DWI out of proportion and use it as a political weapon to get a Democrat out of office.
We see which side Alex is on.
He's just towing the GOP line, trying to get a Democrat DA out of office.
You know, that's like a casualty that you don't often think about with Alex, but it's like, he just can't be happy.
He can't be happy.
They caught the terrorist, and he can't be happy they did because even catching it is proof that there's still more work for us to do or they're still lying to us or all that shit.
So what happened on April 19th in Boston has all the optics necessary for Alex to call it martial law, but it fails in some very important points that he does not care to recognize.
The first is, as I've mentioned, all the law enforcement actions, the door-to-door searching, the dragnets, the shelter-in-place requests, were done by the state government through appropriate channels.
All of Alex's martial law fears involve the federal government and specifically FEMA.
This situation doesn't match any of his tyranny fantasies at all.
The second important aspect is this was a very temporary thing.
Alex always talks about martial law coming in and staying in place.
It's not just a couple hours when an armed guy who's already killed a cop and bombed a marathon is on the loose in a known area.
For the situation to match Alex's paranoid fantasies, they would need to have not caught Joe Har and kept the city in martial law in a state of fear.
That's not what happened here.
Finally, most basically and most importantly, this was not martial law.
This is important to point out because the way Alex uses that term so flippantly leads to it losing any meaning.
But martial law is a real thing, and it has defining characteristics.
So let's discuss a few of them.
The first is suspension of civil rights.
This did not happen in Boston in the aftermath of the bombings.
No one's rights under the Constitution or Bill of Rights were suspended.
So I just, like, the reason that I think this is important to, like, look at some of these defining characteristics of martial law is Alex's brand is Mr. Martial Law.
It's one of those things where you can throw around, oh, this is martial law, all you want, but living through it is like probably not living through it.
And one of the ways that he like he uses that to prove that this was a false flag, because these other times in the past when there have been drills, that was also a false flag.
Every major event in the world is orchestrated by the globalists who then take these drills and make them go live in order to cause chaos and push their agenda.
Every single one of them.
In the case of the Boston bombing, Alex has been making frequent references to the 7-7 bombings in London and how there was a drill that same day as a way to strengthen his argument that the Boston bombing was a false flag, as proven by the drill they were having that day.
As we've discussed on the April 15th episode, there's no evidence that there was any kind of a drill happening at the marathon, but there's some indications that there was a crowd desensitization exercise happening for police dogs.
Alex has taken that and turned it into there being a bombing drill going on with literally no evidence except a couple pictures he found on 4chan.
I'd waited a while to discuss this 7-7 stuff because there were more pressing issues, but now I feel like it's a real good time to touch on this issue and how full of shit Alex is.
On July 7th, 2005, four terrorists detonated bombs, three of them in the underground trains and a fourth on a double-decker bus, killing 52 people.
It was a horrible attack that deeply traumatized the city of London.
That same day after the bombings, a man named Peter Power, who ran a company called Viser Consultants, went on BBC and said that he'd been working on a drill that involved simultaneous bombings at the same stations that the attacks had taken place at.
From that, Alex and Paul Joseph Watson began spinning a conspiracy that what happened is that these drills were being carried out by this consulting firm and the globalists, of course.
And in the middle of the event, things went hot and the bombing turned real.
They were the leaders on this theory and were largely responsible for its dissemination.
And they did literally zero fact-checking or research at all.
Alex's article on the supposed drill says that they were, quote, running a 1,000-person strong exercise which drilled the London underground being bombed at the exact same locations at the exact same times as happened in real life.
This is obviously meant to tell the reader that there were 1,000 people involved in this drill to test the response to a potential bombing.
However, this is a complete lie.
And they would have known that if they'd reached out to Mr. Power or looked into this in any way before deciding on a narrative.
Here's what Power actually said.
Quote, at half past nine this morning, we were actually running an exercise for a company of about a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning.
The thousand-person number was how many people worked at the company for whom he was doing a presentation.
And there was a very low likelihood that all of them were even in his session, his lecture that he was giving.
This was a corporate seminar that Power was presenting.
There were no people in the streets.
There was nothing other than a scenario and a PowerPoint presentation.
And a bit of a coincidence.
People who have looked into Peter Power have suggested that he was doing a little bit of self-promotion in this BBC presentation and his appearance on the BBC.
His scenario did not identically match the events of the 7-7 bombings, but it's in his business's best interests to make it appear that the corporate risk management lectures that he gives are as close to prophetic as possible.
Oh, man.
This is it.
This is the drill that Alex thinks proves the 7-7 bombing was a false flag.
So this dude is on a self-promotion grift, and then he's used by right-wing propaganda grifters in order to fucking facilitate more terrorism, essentially.
It's such utter incomplete shit how cynical Alex and Paul Joseph Watson are.
There's just literally no way that they can keep doing this and have no idea that they're complete frauds.
Can you imagine them portraying this honestly?
Like Alex getting on air and trying to argue that the bombing was fake because a guy was giving a risk assessment seminar that had similarities to the bombing.
Can you imagine them being straight up with the audience about this alleged drill not being anything that involved the police or operatives or anyone on the street and only existed as a PowerPoint presentation?
I can't find the article that Alex is referencing when he says that a terror expert says the mastermind of the 7-7 bombings was MI6.
I searched Infowar's website and I found a blurb about this.
And apparently it's in relation to a guy on Fox News saying that Harun Rashid Aswat may have worked with British intelligence in the 90s in Bosnia.
That may be true, but it doesn't prove that he was ever or is still an MI6 asset in 2005 when the bombings happened.
It certainly doesn't prove that the bombings were a false flag at all.
Also, Harun Rashid Aswat was not one of the 7-7 bombers.
Some have suggested that he was the mastermind of the attacks, but this absolutely has not been proven.
Whether or not Aswat was a string puller of the 7-7 attack or whether or not he worked with British intelligence 15 plus years earlier in a regional conflict, none of that matters to the larger point Alex is making.
Those things can be true and not be evidence that this was a false flag.
That's possible.
So I don't really care.
The central point that he's making is about this being a drill, and his version of that is categorically not true.
Also, Aswat is not Saudi Arabian.
He was born in the United Kingdom, but his family is from India.
So there's another piece of information that has come out that is that Russia, the Russian intelligence, had warned the United States about Tamerlin Tsarnev in the past.
The Russians came to the FBI two years ago to get it on record and said, we want you to go interrogate these guys that are going back and forth and hanging out with these extremists who are attacking us, by the way.
Turned out the FBI was handling them five years ago.
Oh, and here's a big smoking gun for all of you.
And people are asking, hey, what's Alex getting at?
So on the question of whether or not Russia warned the United States about Tamerlin Tsarnev, the answer is they definitely did.
The FSB told us in March 2011 that Tamerlin was associating with known terrorist extremists and we should keep an eye on him.
This triggered an investigation carried out by the Boston Joint Terrorism Task Force.
They interviewed Tamerlin, but they were unable to surveil him because the evidence they had didn't rise to the legal standard of that kind of a measure.
So the FBI's memo about their interview with Tamerlin has been released, and the interview took place on April 23rd, 2011.
The readout sounds like a pretty clear-cut interview following up on a tip from Russian intelligence with Tamerlin discussing that he goes to mosque once a week, has no connections or interest in radical Islamic ideas, and respects people of all faiths.
Of note in the memo is that he tells the FBI about how someone he knew was approached by four men who claimed to be FBI who wanted to talk to Tamerlin.
They left no ID or way of contacting them, and he hadn't heard from them since.
This is definitely weird, but it definitely doesn't necessarily follow that these people were actually FBI or even with the government.
Some strong indications have come out that Johar was selling drugs, so Tamerlin could have had some second or first-hand contact with criminal elements who might want to try to intimidate him with that kind of a stunt.
There are other explanations for what this could have been.
The reason I strongly discount the possibility that these people were FBI is that the report, which was restricted to internal use only, treats these four guys as an unknown entity.
It makes specific note at the end of the memo that Tamerlin was open to reporting to the FBI if these men tried to contact him again.
Overall, you're left with the impression that the FBI doesn't know anything about these four guys and that they have little idea who Tamberlin is, nor much interest in him, other than following up on this FSB tip.
By June 2011, they'd done whatever investigating they could do and were unable to find any links to terrorism.
For safe measure, they added him to a customs and border protection list that would flag him if he tried to leave or enter the country.
There were two notes in this database about Tamerlin, and neither were effective in causing his detention when he flew from New York to Moscow in January 2012 and back in July 2012.
The first note didn't consider him a high-priority target.
So on the day that he was traveling to Moscow, there were about 100 other names on the watch list that authorities were detaining and questioning.
And as he was a lower priority, the resources available were expended elsewhere and he was able to get through unstopped.
By the time Tamerlin returned, that original note on the customs and border protection profile or whatever, that had expired.
But a more severe note had been made in the meantime, which was still in effect.
This was the result of a second warning from the FSB, which led to Tamerlin being considered a very dangerous person and made his detention mandatory.
However, the agent who wrote that second note misspelled Tsarnav when they were entering him into the system, and thus when he tried to return to the country that July, it didn't raise any alarms.
This is the second time, in the case of the story, when proper data entry would have saved people probably some trouble.
So this, him being allowed to get back into the country, has been the root of some people speculating that Tamerlin was an FBI informant and had been clandestinely working to infiltrate Muslim extremist communities on behalf of the government.
As the theory goes, according to Michelle McPhee's book, Maximum Harm, Tamerlin wanted to be a U.S. citizen, primarily so he could box in the Olympics.
But he was uneligible for that because he'd been arrested for domestic violence while he was in the country.
The FBI recruited him to be an informant, thus his ability to travel while he was on the lists, in exchange for approving his citizenship application.
Over time, as the promise of citizenship never materialized, Tamerlin became angry and snapped, ultimately contributing to him bombing the marathon.
If there were proof, I could probably engage with this a little bit further.
In write-ups for the book, McPhee even admits that this is just a theory.
From a Daily Mail article, quote, McPhee's theory, which she admits she cannot definitively prove, was that Tamerlin was a federal informant and that he turned on America after his citizenship application was rejected.
It's all good and well to have a theory and discuss the possibilities that arise from that theory, but the way her writing was covered was a bit irresponsible.
The claims that the FBI was handling Tamerlin for years led the stories, and the disclaimer that this is just what she believes and can't prove were second thoughts paragraphs later.
In terms of Alex's claim that the government had handled these brothers for five years, that's just based on a claim by Tamberlin's mother, who was arguing for her son's innocence.
But Alex is just reading headlines on Drudge, and this might be a good time to point out something super important that I think we don't bring up enough.
And that's how Drudge works.
How Drudge works is that he takes existing news stories and links to them.
That's the primary function of his site.
But that's not why his site is one of the most popular in the right-wing news ecosystem.
His site is number one with these dumb-dumbs because he rewrites headlines to fit the narratives that the right-wing pundits are already disseminating.
He provides cover in the form of taking sensational stilted link headlines that people like Alex can just repeat and lend their talking points credibility.
For instance, let's take one of these headlines Alex is reading.
Quote, no doubt brothers not acting alone.
That was the link on Drudge, which takes you to an article from the International Business Times.
The actual article's headline is, quote, Boston Marathon Bombings, FBI Hunt's Terror Sleeper Cell Linked to Sarnev Brothers.
In this article, the International Business Times quotes an article in the Sunday Mirror, which is itself quoting an anonymous source, quote, close to the investigation.
The credibility of this source is kind of in question because they say the bombs used at the marathon were, quote, highly sophisticated, and that, quote, agents think the sleeper cell has up to a dozen members and has been waiting several years for their day to come.
Both of these details have been shown to not be the case, which leads me to believe that the Sunday Mirror got some bad info, which is then being reported in the International Business Times, which is then being sensationalized by Drudge, so it could be more easily used by people like Alex.
It's like if you go to that and you unfocus your eyes, you can see all the right-wing propaganda lies pulling out like one of those pictures that, you know, one of those illusion ones where you're like, it's a boat.
Alex is talking about Johar's two roommates who were taken in for questioning.
They were ultimately arrested and sent to prison for obstruction of justice as they had gone to Johar's dorm room and attempted to help him dispose of evidence, including a laptop and a backpack full of fireworks.
There's no evidence of them having any involvement in the planning or execution of the attacks, but they did commit crimes to help their friend evade the law.
They both did short stretches in jail and were deported back to Kazakhstan when they were released.
I don't think there's anything too suspicious about this, but the way Alex is reporting this is not good.
Police saw so many black backpacks with the National Guard and Navy SEALs in plain clothes with black backpacks, part of the drill, which is now confirmed that they have to deny that a real bomb could be slipped through.
And that's why you do a drill.
They did a drill on 7-7 of the exact trains and exact bus attacked at the exact same time.
So Alex now knows that the FBI did talk to Tamerlan in 2011.
So he's convinced now that when they put out those pictures of the suspects and they didn't know who they were and they needed the public's help identifying them, they were lying.
So when Alex is veering more towards Saudi Arabia and that sort of narrative and putting some sort of blame that direction, what's interesting is that there's another guy who's doing that too, by the name of Glenn Beck.
Yes, particularly on the guy who the police questioned, who was one of the victims of the bombing, the Saudi Arabian student that we talked about episodes back.
Glenn Beck has not left the realm of suspicion about this guy.
He is someone who Glenn Beck is focusing on very closely.
So, while Alex has been a bit more scattershot with his coverage of the Boston bombing and has been shifting his theories to accommodate a whole bunch of different suspects, the same can't really be said for his mortal enemy, Glenn Beck.
In between Beck's segments criticizing Alex, so he appears sane in comparison.
Glenn has been spending a lot of time working up a conspiracy theory of his own, and it's centered around that Saudi Arabian student who'd been injured in the bombing.
I've been very consciously trying to not name people who were caught up in this thing, except when necessary, particularly victims of both the actual bombing and the propaganda surrounding it.
I don't feel like they deserve to have their names attached to this tragedy, and leaving them unnamed is something I consider a small act of honoring their right to live a normal life after this misfortune befell them.
While we discussed this student in the context of him being questioned, I stuck to that standard.
But now that Glenn Beck is involved, I need to get more specific.
In the days after the bombing, Glenn said on his show that they'd uncovered information about a, quote, very bad, bad, bad man who he claimed was involved in the attack.
It seems like it's a universal trait that right-wing shithead broadcasters really think they're speaking directly to the government on their shows because Glenn made an ultimatum.
That if the government did not deal with this very bad, bad, bad man appropriately, he would reveal them on his show.
He called them, quote, the worst of the worst, and even appeared on Bill O'Reilly's show to spread his accusations further.
Naturally, the government didn't respond to how Glenn wanted, so he kept his word and accused Abdul Rahman Al-Harbi of being the money man who facilitated the attack and had given the, quote, go order for the attack.
Al-Harbi is the Staudi student who was injured in the bombing.
Glenn claimed he had received this info from two DHS sources, but he refused to elaborate or reveal his sources.
It's super important to point out, though, that by the time Glenn was making these accusations on air, the FBI had already spoken to Al Harby and had publicly announced he was not involved.
Glenn, yeah, I'm going to take fucking Sally down the street from me, make a story about her, put her on the news 24-7, and then, yeah, she's technically a public figure.
That would provide him some cover for irresponsible reporting.
It's way harder to prove defamation against public figures.
The judge had no time for that and ruled that Al Harby was absolutely a private figure and returned a decision saying that Beck had to disclose his sources.
Naturally, Glenn wasn't going to do that.
So he paid an undisclosed amount to settle the case.
It's tough to imagine what the amount he paid out was, considering the person he was paying was someone he'd accused of orchestrating a terrorist attack.
But I'm certain he'd rather pay any price than have it revealed publicly that he just makes up sources and embellishes what they tell him to an egregious degree.
Covering that up is priceless.
And if that suit had proceeded, there's little doubt in my mind he would have never been able to go on his dumbass I'm sorry tour after Trump was elected.
I can find no evidence that this Saudi student had a bunch of relatives who were on terrorist lists.
It is true that there are a number of people named Al Harbi on the Saudi Arabian watch list, but I can find no actual proof that they're related to this student.
They're just a bunch of dumb blogs like I am not ashamed of thegospelofchrist.com, where the only evidence provided is that they have the same surname.
Also, who cares?
Even if he did have relatives who were terrorists, that wouldn't do shit to prove that he himself is a terrorist.
Isn't this show supposed to be about individualism and reject the notion of guilt by association?
This is the sort of shit Alex is bringing to the table, citing evidence that Al Harby is a terrorist based on information put out by his arch rival, which ends up getting his arch rival sued.
And the rest of it's just a dumb right-wing blog filler.
Also, a pretty fun revelation of this lawsuit is that we learned some of Glenn Beck's employees' names, which are pretty strong arguments for nominative determinism or the idea that your name determines what you'll do in life.
I think Alex is probably on the outskirts of getting himself named in the suit, but, you know, still what he's doing is the same sort of behavior that led to Beck having to pay a bunch of money.
If there wasn't a drill at this, and if there wasn't evidence of the drill, and then the cover-up of the drill, and then him being fine, and then tracheotomy, and he can't talk, and all these other points, and they tried to blame right-wingers, I would say, okay, real crazy's attacked us.
And then I'd say, let's not give up our rights for three dead.
All the things Alex is saying there for reasons he thinks something suspicious is up here is they're all completely fake.
The evidence that he has that there was a bombing drill is completely blown out of proportion, and he absolutely can't even come close to proving what he's putting out.
There isn't evidence of a drill.
There are just pictures of civilian, civil support teams that Alex has found on 4chan and written a mystery novel about, imagining that they're secretly Navy SEALs.
There wasn't a cover-up of a drill.
They're just officials who have no idea what conspiracy bullshit is flying around on the internet, and they aren't really interested in the dumb pictures from 4chan.
Not engaging with your conspiracy is not evidence of a cover-up.
Joe Har wasn't tracheotomied immediately, as Alex is suggesting.
And even if he couldn't talk for a very brief time, he was still able to communicate.
Also, he was able to talk within days.
He just couldn't talk while he had a throat tube in because he was recovering from a wound to his pharynx.
They didn't try to blame right-wingers.
Alex just feels like they were going to blame right-wingers and created an elaborate narrative surrounding those pictures from 4chan, where a random person in the shot was anointed the white patsy with zero evidence of anything other than Alex's feelings.
Literally, nothing Alex is saying to support his conclusion that the bombing was fake is true.
It's just absolute shit.
And it's the worst kind of work a person can do.
Also, small point here.
I hate to be pedantic, but honeybees absolutely do not kill 200-plus people a year.
Some decent numbers I found said that hornets, bees, and wasps combined kill about 1.4 per 10 million each year, or approximately 45 people in the United States.
Also, comparing the number of people killed in a bombing to the number of people killed by bees is pretty absurd.
For one, most people who die from bees are allergic to them, whereas we're all allergic to bombings.
Perhaps more importantly, bees are a very important part of our ecosystem, and without them, a lot of plants would die out.
It's just so infuriating to listen to him talk on a day like this because all of the bullshit he said, he's saying with such confidence because you're like, oh, well, I guess he must already have proved that.
Yeah, if you hadn't listened to his show for the past five days and then just came in on this and even though you had watched the regular news the whole time, if you just suddenly walked into this show, you're like, oh, shit, he must have proved all this shit because he is really comfortable.
So Alex, at the end here of this 21st, this April 21st episode, he goes to calls, and one of these callers brings up an old article from the Boston Globe.
However, when this is being brought into the conversation where Alex is arguing that the bombing was a false flag, it's important to discuss the content of the article, not just the headline.
The article is an op-ed piece where the author is primarily arguing that a number of public health and safety organizations treat large events like the Boston Marathon or the 4th of July parade as opportunities to heighten their readiness for future calamities.
This is not about doing a dry run over a bombing or anything like that.
It's about how relationships between medical and law enforcement groups can be forged at large events like this in order that they can work better together.
Because as the article says, you don't want to, quote, exchange business cards at the scene of a disaster.
In addition to this element, the marathon is perfect for collaborative preparation because it doesn't just take place in Boston.
It extends through multiple cities.
So by definition, it's an event where intercity coordination is necessary.
This article does nothing to prove or even make more plausible any of the arguments Alex is making, but it appears to, based on a few buzzwords in the headline and one Alex is faking, putting in.
That's like saying any of those CDC simulations where they try and coordinate with different departments and act as though, okay, here's what a pandemic would start and this is how it would look like.
And let's see if we can simulate a circumstance where we succeed or something like that.
Just those existing would be fuel for Alex to be like, see, they're planning the new pandemic.
Well, the reason it was so much better then is you couldn't find many immoral people in government.
Now you can find a lot of them.
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Well, I just heard on RT last night somebody said that, and you know, a trusted source that America was now number one, the most corrupt nation on the planet.
Not many immoral people in government back in 1952, you say.
I wonder how Alex might be defining his terms on that one.
Would it surprise you to learn that the 82nd session of Congress, which included the year 1952, included only two African-American representatives and zero senators?
One area that makes no sense to point to as a difference between the 1950s and the present day is governmental corruption.
There are thousands of examples of representatives and senators behaving in very similarly scandalous ways, going all the way back to the founding of the country.
But it's hard to say exactly what Alex considers immoral.
And that's largely based on some videos that people have that are incomplete, just sort of partial videos.
He goes, you know, he is just strongly arguing that people were forced into lockdown.
Like this is like at gunpoint, people forced to stay inside their homes.
It's just not true.
But you just repeat it over and over again.
And eventually people are going to be like, well, that makes sense.
So Alex talks about how this whole thing, the lockdown, the shelter-in-place request, didn't really work because only after it ended was the person able to see that there was a guy in his boat.
So in his mind, this dude is sitting by his back window just staring at the boat, just like, man, I want to do something about this blood-covered boat of mine.
But they told me to stay inside, and I obviously can't use my phone from the inside.
Look, the guy decided to comply with the shelter-in-place request, and when he went outside, he noticed something that he wouldn't see unless he was outside.
Who gives a shit?
So, Alex has found some video of the police shooting at the boat that Johar was in.
Yeah.
And he plays the video.
And I think that there's something really important to point out here.
If you actually find videos of the shooting, it lasts a very short time.
There's a brief outburst of firing, and then it stops.
And everyone's yelling, stop fire, hold your fire, hold your fire.
The video that Alex is, or the audio you could tell there, there's shooting, then there's a lull, then there's more shooting, a lull, and more shooting.
No, he's talking about a Wild West shootout where people are in different fucking houses across the way and putting their heads out the window and firing three shots and then ducking back in.
Reportedly now witnesses are saying, we have these videos up on Infowars.com, that they saw the police run over him and then fill his body full of holes.
And the aunt and others are saying that it is video of the older brother, Tamerlin being brought naked into the police car.
And then I guess you just stage a firefight and then say that you killed him.
If you consult the time stamps of the time that people were showing live footage of the guy being arrested, they do not match up.
It was after Tamerlin had already been taken away in an ambulance.
Oh, this is bullshit.
It's an honest misunderstanding that can be made because there is a superficial visual similarity between this naked guy and Tamerlin, but he was just another suspicious person who was around the scene of the Watertown shootout.
And, you know, it's an easy sort of thing, mistake to make.
There's no evidence they told that to the citizens or the media.
Alex is making all of this up.
He's just decided that their mission was to kill Johar.
And that's not anything that he has any reason to report.
He doesn't have that from any official channel.
He's just assuming in the same way that he saw those pictures on 4chan and created an entire fantasy narrative out of it.
He's just decided as what they were told.
And it's constantly changing.
Everything is constantly changing.
On the 19th, when we listened to that episode, the manhunt or the lockdown was in order to find the fake seals from the pictures on 4chan and clean that whole thing up.
You know, I imagine that Alex has to be a little bit disappointed that he's still supporting Trump just because he could have used butt-dialing Giuliani as his source.
Giuliani butt-dialed me, and he said give them the order to kill him.
That's very familiar ad pivoting, but he's selling his magazine because he doesn't have his line of supplements yet.
So this is a bizarre feeling of development because he's saying that in the same time that he's talking about the globalists using psychological fear to get you to do what they want, he's trying to scare you about the globalists to get you to sell by his magazine.
It's very weird.
So anyway, Alex is certain that this is a cover-up and a false flag, and here is what that cover-up will lead to.
Everyone I respect, like Joel Skousen and people like Joel Skousen.
Well, I mean, there's so many folks out there saying it has all the signs of false flag, but Steve Pieczenik, you name it, or saying this thing stinks to high heaven.
So the idea that the FBI called Tamerlin in the days after the bombing is supported by literally nothing other than a claim by the Sarnev brothers' parents, who were in active defense mode.
Their interviews in the days after their children's photos were released could all boil down to something like, our children could never do something like this, which is a natural parental reaction.
You see it commonly in the cases of people, you know, parents of people who do horrible things, because it's very damaging to your sense of self to imagine that someone you raised could do something like bomb a marathon.
I tend not to give those comments too much weight unless they're supported by backing evidence, which is just absent in this case.
And this is a situation where proving this would be pretty easy, as investigators poured over Tamerlin's phone records to try and identify possible accomplices.
Even the Channel 4 article that Alex is basing this on doesn't treat the story as being substantiated.
From this article, quote, the telephone call claim raises a number of questions.
On the one hand, the claim could be false.
It follows suggestions by both parents that the FBI had been monitoring Tamerlin for years and could be part of efforts to defend the brothers.
Another possibility is that the telephone call was Tamerlin preparing his mother for bad news.
Because Tamerlin told her, allegedly, that the FBI called.
The article very explicitly treats this as something that might be true, but there's no proof.
It's all good and well to discuss something like this as a claim being made by a traumatized mother, but it's very inappropriate to treat it as if it's established fact or even something likely to be true.
And that is what Alex is doing.
There's a very important distinction that Alex is trying to play both sides of in this very clip that we just listened to.
The headline from Steve Watson's story is fine because it's saying that Tamerlin's mother made this claim.
But Alex then goes on to say that a British report claims the FBI spoke to Tamerlin after the bombing, and that is an absolute lie.
The British report says that Tamerlin's mother said it.
It in no way claims that the FBI spoke to Tamerlin.
This is the sort of sleight of hand Alex does all the time.
It's how he's able to subtly change elements of a story without people really noticing.
And you could pretend that it's a minor shift in the story, but it's not.
One claim is that this mother made the claim.
The other is that the British media is reporting that the mother's claims are correct, and the FBI did talk to Tamerlin after the bombing.
It's an attempt to prove the mother's claim by appealing to a source that doesn't prove that.
This is a deeply dishonest act, and you probably wouldn't do something like this unless you were trying to mislead people.
So it just, I mean, the evidence just keeps piling up of his just shifty behavior.
The first of them is Wayne Madsen, the guy who told Alex that, what was it, Hillary Clinton's chef who died had a note attached to him that said call Larry Nichols.
So, you know, he's talking about like Chechen refugees.
Yeah.
And at another point, he talks about how he's noticed that they're all in Washington, D.C. and Boston.
And it's all bullshit.
There are very few Chechens in the United States.
Most of them find it much easier to emigrate to European countries.
So the communities in those countries are much larger.
It's a complicated question as to why there are not as many refugees of Chechen descent in the United States, but some have pointed to it being an expensive trip to make to apply to asylum.
Here, that's a pretty large factor.
Another is that there weren't very many Chechens here.
So Chechens are much less likely to end up choosing to flee to the United States, where there are fewer fellow Chechens who can help them with the transition process of living in a new country.
They are cities that have some Chechen populations, but they're tiny, relatively speaking.
And those cities aren't the only places where Chechen folks live.
They're cities that he's chosen from a list of cities with Chechen communities because it's where all the FBI stuff is and where the bombing happened.
There are also notable Chechen populations in Seattle, New York, Los Angeles, and New Jersey.
But Wayne hand waves those away to draw focus to the cities that he wants to build suspicion about.
And here's the thing.
This isn't just a conspiracy.
This is overt xenophobia.
Putting forth this kind of thing where you're trying to imply that refugees from this particular heritage are somehow nefariously clustered, it serves to make your listeners suspicious of all Chechens.
This is a very small group who are pretty vulnerable from a numbers and social capital standpoint.
Trying to create the perception that they might become to the United States as, quote, professional refugees and may be up to no good is an explicit act of marginalization of a community based on their ethnic origin.
And that seems pretty fucked up.
These Chechen Americans were just as affected by the bombing as anyone else, possibly even more so, since they had to fear that people would do exactly what Wayne Madsen is doing here, trying to tie their heritage to a terrorist act.
In the strongest possible terms, fuck this.
Wayne sucks.
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Yeah, there should be a picture of him next to Scapegoat.
So Alex has had Steve Pieczenik on, who's given the motive for the pulling off this false flag as being the imaginary bipartisan congressional committee that indicted Obama for war crimes.
So Wayne believes that the bombing was done to pass CISPA, or the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act, also known as H.R. 3523 in the 112th Congress, H.R. 624 in the 113th, and H.R. 234 in the 114th.
All of these attempts to pass the bill failed, with or without any supposed false flag bombings.
In December 2015, the GOP included an amended version called CISA, CISA, into the budget bill, and Obama signed it into law.
You may remember December 2015 is one of the many times that the GOP, under Mitch McConnell, had tried to force a shutdown of the government if he couldn't get his way.
In this case, there was a big holdup with them trying to put defunding of Planned Parenthood into the budget bill, which they were unable to do.
They were, however, able to slide in CISA.
There's no need for the government to stage terrorist attacks to push through unpopular legislation.
Alex's buddies like Ted Cruz are more than willing to hold the government hostage to do that on their own.
So now we've got two bullshit theories as to the motive for the false flag.
Pushing through CIPA, which didn't happen, and Steve Pieczenik's imaginary bipartisan congressional committee that indicted Bush and Obama of war crimes.
Nothing that these people are saying means anything.
So, anyway, Alex, by this point now, has learned that there's an explanation for the people in his pictures that he found on 4chan and that they were National Guard civil support team members.
You could tell the difference between National Guard were wearing the camouflage uniforms and the craft guys were wearing these khaki pants and these vests.
Now you take this entirely terrible work that they've done, insisting these people are Navy SEALs, when in reality, they were part of these civil support teams, and they have now taken the truth and hand-waved it away.
So Alex is convinced that the FBI knew who the Sarnev brothers were when they released the suspect photos.
And then he goes on and just tells his version of the manhunt.
And some of this is a little bit repetitive.
We've heard clips like this, but I think it's important to understand that what Alex is doing is, first of all, being repetitive to his audience to drive home his narrative.
And now it's just hands down the FBI knew who they were when they put their picture up.
And then called them up, if the mother's accurate, and said, we're going to come on by and get you.
And then they, for whatever reason, drugged him up or had already shot him, laid him out, ran over him, and then shot him up a bunch more.
And then they wanted that other brother bad.
And they tried to kill him, but media had gotten their cameras on it, so they were unable, after shooting hundreds of rounds into it, when he actually got up.
Oh, my goodness, you know, he's unarmed with his hands up.
Don't worry, we'll get him in the tent.
Get medical personnel over here to help him out.
But it was a little too obvious to me to die on the spot.
And now in Boston, the videos are emerging where they would just go door to door and say, come out and have families, you know, with their children, you name it, come out with their hands up, and the cops would get in their face and grab on them.
So Alex is absolutely correct that there were videos going around of people being let out of their homes by police with guns.
There's no real indication of the police threatening them in any way, nor the police aiming their guns at these civilians, but the people do have their hands up.
From the videos I've seen, it seems more likely that this is an orderly process that the police are, you know, it's not that they're yelling at them to submit, but I can't be certain.
I wasn't there, and I don't know what videos Alex has seen and hasn't seen.
I can't really speak on those sorts of things.
I can just tell you what I've seen.
Oh, and I can also speak about one other thing, and that is that every single one of these people whose homes are searched during the manhunt gave the police permission to search their homes.
You can make the argument that given the fever pitch in the city, that these people felt like they couldn't tell the police that they couldn't search their homes, and then in some way that, you know, that's a form of pressure for them to give up their Fourth Amendment rights.
You could make the argument that they might have felt like there would be consequences if they didn't consent to the police searching their homes, like that might make them appear suspicious if they didn't.
And these were the exact sort of questions that a certain group was exploring in late April 2013.
And it's a group that Alex fucking hates.
That group, of course, is the American Civil Liberties Union, the ACLU.
They'd seen the same videos that everyone else had seen and made very public statements that they would like to speak to any citizen who felt like they were put in a position where they couldn't say no to a police search.
Speaking to The Atlantic, Carol Rose, the executive director of the ACLU of Massachusetts, said that their organization had, quote, received a number of concerned complaints from people about the searches that took place, including some residents of Watertown.
None, however, from people whose homes had been searched.
I've looked, and I can find no evidence that anyone actually affected by the searches has ever lodged a formal complaint or filed suit claiming that their rights were violated.
All the noise that's been talked about this issue comes from people who saw the videos or looked at the optics and made their own decisions about it.
These observers are making a gigantic mistake.
And it's them trying to assume that they know the decisions that these actual people whose homes are being searched are making.
Many of them were probably totally fine with the search.
Some of them probably uncomfortable, but understood it was for the best, so they consented.
This is right-wing virtue signaling, pure and simple.
Just getting mad on other people's behalf.
If one of these citizens had filed a case and Alex wanted to support their claim and draw attention to it, that's one thing.
But he doesn't even have a particular case to point to.
All he's saying is, if that was me in that video, I wouldn't be okay with it.
I think, Alex, it's very clear that the two brothers were involved in some type of false flag training and operation.
But it was clear to them that when they showed up and when the bombs went off and they fled, and by the way, we have video of the younger brother fleeing with his backpack on him, so we know that what the FBI said about him dropping his pack could not have been true.
And the same original, high-resolution image was submitted to the AP and the FBI.
The conspiracy theorists can't quite decide who to blame, whether it was Green or the FBI who did the photoshopping.
But the result was a good number of internet bullshit targeting David Green as possibly being in on a terrorist attack that killed his fellow citizens.
So Alex has been sort of trying to softly and subtly go from.
Tamerlin's mother says that the FBI called to it's truth that, and Joel Skousen's going to help out quite a bit with that because he's just treating that FBI call as a fact.
I think it was interesting though, that the police or the FBI called a couple of days after that and and and talked to them and, and yet they didn't arrest them immediately, and I don't know if they wanted them to flee.
I'm still unclear Alex, what this MIT cop had to do or the carjacking had to do with this.
Why are you considering I'm still trying to make up a narrative around why that stuff makes sense within my conspiracy theory, because if I were to like I mean, there are obviously reasons that those would make sense, but not within the context of what I'm telling you is true, that's deeply overcomplicating.
Things really got to figure out whether or not the the moon hit the mirror right and that's what sent the MIT cop to kill himself.
Well, not knowing the the complexities of this, I know that they're ad-libbing on the spot, and that's a lot of what they were dealing with right here.
So what we have here is Alex practicing telling the story of what happened.
He's going over the beats of the story and you can hear him connecting the dots as he goes along, but there are some problems.
For one, I thought he changed the narrative to this being a thing where they wanted to blame the seals initially, but now it seems like he's back to the they plan to blame right wingers.
Was that april 19th episode, a bottle episode of Alex's show, where he throws out a whole new storyline about how it was all about the seals, how the lockdown was to clean up the Patsys, because it seems like we're supposed to have forgotten all about that show.
So secondly, Alex has never played those clips of the media celebrating that they know it's going to be a lone wolf right-wing terrorist guy.
This is the second stage of the you can look it up misdirection.
When he says you can look it up, it's to train the listener to never feel they need to look something up.
This other one, I've played the clips, is an attempt to convince the listener that he's actually played the piece of evidence that he hasn't.
Eventually, through repetition, he can gaslight people into assuming he's demonstrated all this stuff and they must have missed the episode.
It's like what you were bringing up earlier, what you were feeling.
One of the benefits of listening to this every day of his show is that I can say very confidently that Alex has never substantiated this claim that the media was salivating, that it was a right-winger, but he's repeatedly claimed that he's played the clips.
Third, and most interestingly, Joel Skousen seems to think that these globalist bad guys got trained out of false flag by Del Close.
Does he fucking think that these people are just up there improvising?
Does he not understand how stupid that sounds?
Like, all right, guys, let's do years-long cultivation of this Tamerlan guy involving complicated operations to get him in and out of the country secretly, culminating in bombing the Boston Marathon.
I mean, Dan, but there's something to be said about a unique performance.
You know, that's like in theater, you know, there are certain things you get bored by the performance, then you have a fun mess up and you get reinvigorated to do it all over again.
It's a thing that you can only have happen once in a second.
This level of characterization of your bad guys is cartoonish.
Like, for real.
Joel Skousen doesn't get enough grief from me on a regular basis.
Maybe because it's kind of funny that he hates Trump in the present day, and Alex has to put up with it because all of his other experts won't talk to him anymore.
But let's not lose sight of the fact that Joel Skousen could fuck off.
I think the number one motive for this is that it had been a long time since we'd had another one of these high-profile terror attacks.
Remember, we don't have any normal terrorism in the United States.
Normal terrorism would look like people coming across the border among the thousands of illegal aliens that come across daily, and they'd be blowing up electrical pylons.
They'd be setting off suicide bombers in malls.
Small, non-high-profile things.
These high-profile things are always a sign that there is something to be gained.
So as if you need more evidence, this Joel Skousen's a dunce.
Here he is asserting that the motive the globalists need to pull off this Boston bombing as a false flag is because we haven't had any terrorism for a while.
There might be undertones of it, but even if it isn't, it's still just, I don't even care.
I'm going to leave aside also terrorist attacks aimed at other countries that absolutely do affect our country's interests, since that list would be too gigantic, and they probably wouldn't fit whatever nonsense criteria Joel's using here.
I know that definitions of terrorism might vary, but what about Sandy Hook?
What about the Aurora shooting?
What about Christopher Dorner's rampage?
What about that Nazi who shot up a Sikh temple in Wisconsin?
What about the attempted assassination of Gabrielle Giffords that left six dead and 15 wounded?
I would personally consider all of these to be acts of terrorism to some extent.
They produced terror in the community, whether or not these specific acts had an identified political motivation.
I would say that in early 2013, particularly after Sandy Hook, no one needed to be reminded what terror looked like.
The mainstream media continues to put out the propaganda.
The yes, when they're talking about Russia assisting the FBI in this investigation, how Russia has been the victim of Chechen terrorism as well.
This is absolutely untrue.
Is that almost all of the Chechen terrorism or terrorism in Russia, the apartment buildings, the Breslin bombings of the schools were blamed on Chechens, were in fact carried out by Russian speakers, not Chechens.
The Russians have been running the Chechens as their false flag operations, just like we've been running the Middle Eastern Muslims as our false flag operations in this country.
Now they're kind of merging the two.
They're making it a worldwide war on terror.
This may have some other ramification in terms of bringing in more of this false propaganda that Russia is our ally in the world on terror in the war on terror.
They're still planning a disarmament treaty, another one yet again on Russia, even though they have yet to comply with the last New START treaty.
It seems like our government is just insisting on proving to the American people that the Russians are our friends, that there's no threat there, that we're fighting a common terror enemy.
I know you're taking a lot of flack for what's going on.
That means you're effective when the O'Reilly's who are perennial conspiracy deniers, or even Glenn Beck, who's, you know, a good guy, considers himself a patriot, but he's a conspiracy denier, and it's a real problem.
So Alex ends on this, and he leaves about three and a half hours into the show and has Jakari Jackson and David Knight come in to take calls for the rest of the show, another half hour.
Looking through this page's history, it's so clearly someone who's been completely afflicted by Alex Jones syndrome.
It's a non-stop talk about taking arms up and showing the powers that be that they are not in charge, followed by insistences that he's not calling for violence.
It's really sad, honestly.
Like, they call into Alex's show and they're plugging this page, and as best as I can tell, it didn't do too much in terms of engagement, and they just lost interest in July.
I would think that they just died or something, maybe got arrested, but they posted again in March 2015.
From that post, quote, I still believe that we can save our country.
However, I do not believe that there's an option available without blood being spilled.
We all know that corruption is well-rooted and not going to voluntarily remove itself.
We've all observed how quickly promises made on the campaign trailer left at the curb.
We all know that the soap ballot and jury boxes are tattered, torn, and breaking into tiny pieces.
We all know that the only box still available is the cartridge box.
I do not want my children to grow up knowing what war is.
I do not want my children growing up not knowing me.
I do not want my children growing up not knowing what freedom is.
I will not allow anyone the opportunity to take that away from me.
I will, with extreme prejudice, end anyone standing in the way of restoring this once great nation to her proper glory.
I urge you all to ask yourself where your line is.
How much more will you take?
When will you decide to stop hiding online behind words and put your blood where your mouth is?
He ends the post with the hashtag start the revolution.
This is the logical endpoint for a certain amount of people who internalize and believe Alex is bullshit.
They're angry.
The enemy they imagine they're up against is supremely overpowered.
And every time there's a traumatic event in the world, like the Boston bombing, they're taught anew to hate this overpowered elite cabal who were secretly the ones who carried out the attack.
They're given no real guidance or outlet, no path toward legitimate political action, only made more angry by outrage after outrage.
And they never could change anything anyway, since the enemy they're being taught to hate is imaginary, but they feel so real.
A person can only live in that state for so long before it becomes intolerable.
Some could probably deal with it by supporting Alex more, imagining that it's the best way they feel that they can feel like they're making a difference.
Some probably manage to break free from the bullshit and return to a normal life.
But some are consumed with this anger-centric worldview and end up calling for blood-filled revolutions because they can't figure out any other way to deal with the imaginary enemies Alex has taught them to fear.
I don't believe for a second that Alex isn't aware that this is something that he does to people.
He doesn't care.
As long as they're out there plugging in for wars, that's good for traffic.
And if they do end up following through with their plan to kill, they'll just be called false flags to demonize the Patriots.
They'll be used as a prop to provide the fuel.
Alex needs to terrify and outrage the rest of his audience to continue the cycle.
So, when we look at this episode and this whole thing with the Boston bombing, you see these overt lies and this desperate need to take things and make them fit his narrative so he can get attention, which we can absolutely see from his own words, is paying off incredibly 10 times the amount of traffic that he was getting before.
Just an insane rise in his notoriety.
And while you can look at these crass things, I think it's also incredibly important to remember that there are these people, one of whom who calls in on this show, who are being guided down a path that has no off-ramp, or at least no off-ramp with a sign that says, hey, here's the place to fucking check yourself.
I'm far more concerned with the people who are the targets of Alex's propaganda and ire.
I'm far more interested in expending the bulk of my empathy on those people.
But people like this guy who calls in, I don't think that I, in good conscience, can ignore the fact that he is a victim of Alex's shit, too.
And it's harder to feel a ton of empathy for him because, you know, he's advocating things that will end up hurting the targeted communities even more.
Well, I mean, to a certain extent, for this guy, what I see somebody listening to Alex Jones is Alex Jones is essentially a fucking cattle prod, and he's living in a constant state of agitation.
Like, it's, it's like if it's like a fucking experiment of somebody constantly jolting you every time you're about to feel any comfort and about to feel like you know what it's.
It's really not that big a deal.
He pokes you again and you get jabbed again and your brain is in this constant state of excitement.
Listening to Alex Jones yeah, or if you have like, the possibility of connecting with people on a larger scale like uh, around shared experiences, shared tragedies um, you are led away from that.
We see the, the second stage of Alex's conspiracy building operation kicking in, where he attacks, um, any information that comes out solidifies his own narrative.
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