#353: Mark Richards Pt. 11
Today, Dan and Jordan welcome you back to Wacky Wednesday.
Oct. 9, 2019 - Knowledge Fight
03:03:03
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I have great respect for Knowledge Fight. | |
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
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Knowledge fight. | |
| Not knowledgefight.com. | ||
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unidentified
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I love you. | |
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
|
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Indeed. | |
| We are Danathan. | ||
| How are you doing today? | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I like that because just before we started recording, you informed me that you've never been booed. | ||
| I feel like after that, indeed, you've got thousands of people listening. | ||
| A lot of boos. | ||
|
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Boom! | |
| Pull it out! | ||
| So feel that. | ||
| I do feel it now. | ||
| Now you've made it very clear. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| I know you have announced for, but have you ever participated in a wrestling match? | ||
| Ooh, that's a great question. | ||
| Professional wrestling. | ||
| I know you've announced it, right? | ||
| Yeah, I thought when you said announced for, I thought you meant that you were going to do something. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Like running a campaign. | ||
| No, I mean, I did some in-ring announcing, and it turns out I'm not very good at that. | ||
| I'm pretty bad. | ||
| My stand-up instincts kick in, and instead of just announcing people, people make some noise! | ||
| That's not what you need at wrestling it out, so you just need, ladies and gentlemen! | ||
| I'm not good at that. | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| I mean, outside of just, like, sort of trying to powerbomb my friends into beanbags and stuff like that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, naturally. | ||
| Like, the church that I went to, this place called Woodcrest Chapel in Columbia, Missouri, a borderline megachurch kind of situation. | ||
| Right, right, right on the edge. | ||
| They had a giant room full of beanbags that would have, like, some of the early... | ||
| Early in the church's development, that's where they'd have the youth meetings. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So it's not a megachurch, it's an awesome church. | ||
| Especially in its earlier time. | ||
| It grew considerably in the time that I was there. | ||
| They had tons and tons of giant beanbags for people to sit on and chill. | ||
| You know, it's cooler than sitting backwards on a chair. | ||
| Hell yeah! | ||
| And so me and my buddy Matt, what we'd do is we would do DDTs and power bombs to each other under the beanbags. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| So I did some of that, but no real actual backyard wrestling or anything. | ||
| So the church was almost like a proto... | ||
| Like a tech startup office, like a Google, where it's like, oh, we're all sitting around in beanbag chairs, man. | ||
| There were some similarities there, yeah. | ||
| After I've worked at Groupon, I can say there's feeling similarities. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, but it's interesting you ask about wrestling, because the other night I watched some of Hell in the Cell. | ||
| Hell in a Cell at WWE pay-per-view. | ||
| Yeah, I heard something about that. | ||
| How did it go? | ||
| Did not go great. | ||
| Was it Hell or was it Hell in a Cell? | ||
| Hell in a Cell is a match where there are two guys. | ||
| It's supposed to be like these guys really want to fucking hurt each other. | ||
| So you put a cage around them so they can't get out and anything goes. | ||
| No matter what happens, it's all fucking legal. | ||
| I remember them from the Attitude Era with Undertaker and the light going under that cage. | ||
| Undertaker throwing mankind through the roof of it. | ||
| Yeah, that dude's crazy. | ||
| So this one ended in a disqualification, which is supposed to be exactly counter to the rules. | ||
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What? | |
| A disqualification in a cage match? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let's just let him out then, I guess. | ||
| That's the hell in the cell. | ||
| Seth Rollins had a sledgehammer, and the ref said, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| He had a sledgehammer? | ||
| Meanwhile, I grew up watching Triple H. His weapon of choice was a sledgehammer. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| He would always carry around this. | ||
| It's like, this is ridiculous. | ||
| Anyway, that'll dissuade me from ever actually doing a wrestling match. | ||
| There's a bad taste in my mouth I got from... | ||
| I don't even watch that much wrestling anymore. | ||
| I just randomly checked in on Sunday. | ||
| I was like, ooh. | ||
| This is a disaster. | ||
| Not great. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Not great. | ||
| That stinks, because now that everybody is pretty well versed in not just the wrestling match, but also the meta games played above it on the writing level, it seems like they have far more freedom to do whatever they want. | ||
| Ending in a disqualification in a cell matches. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| When sort of that kayfabe is gone, and everyone kind of understands there's a storytelling, no one's trying to pretend it's actually people fighting each other. | ||
| Yeah, it does introduce a like, well, that was a decision. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why'd you decide that? | ||
| Very much so. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You thought about that. | ||
| In advance. | ||
| Yeah, it's strange. | ||
| Anyway, this is a podcast where I know quite a bit about, I guess, Hell in a Cell from the other night. | ||
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Yeah, sure. | |
| And I know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| And I don't know anything about either. | ||
| Correct! | ||
| But it doesn't matter, Jordan, because today we are taking a long-overdue, wacky Wednesday break to finally... | ||
| To finally get back to Project Camelot land to check in with old sweary Carrie Cassidy. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Carrie Cassidy is a woman who goes around and interviews space weirdos, people who claim to have been to space, have a lot of interactions with space. | ||
| Or just have a telescope. | ||
| One guy who works at a bus station has a telescope, and she's interviewed him. | ||
|
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Multiple times. | |
| Man, her roster is not good. | ||
| Not deep. | ||
| I was going through it, and there's just, man, there's such lunatics that she's talked to. | ||
| But her main lunatic, the main person, her biggest source, is a guy named Mark Richards who is in prison for masterminding a murder that he absolutely committed. | ||
| She claims that he's innocent, and so does he, shockingly. | ||
| He was off-planet at the time. | ||
| We will get into that a little bit, because that is rehashed. | ||
| Of course it is! | ||
| As always. | ||
| I imagine so. | ||
| And he tells Carrie stories about how he's a secret space program captain and one of the greatest heroes that humanity has ever known. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And she believes everything he tells her. | ||
| His father is the Dutchman. | ||
| Flying Dutchman. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I can't remember his real first name. | ||
| He's got an invisible artificial intelligence. | ||
| Was it artificial intelligence? | ||
| Or was it regular intelligence? | ||
| I think it's a regular intelligence. | ||
| He has a sentient spacecraft named Minerva. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of details. | ||
| We'll get into some of it. | ||
| And if you want to know more about it, we have a bunch of episodes about him. | ||
| But this is the 11th interview, and it's very exciting. | ||
| We've been waiting for a long time for Carrie to do anything worth going over. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And so here we are. | ||
| Excitement. | ||
| We should take a little moment, Jordan, to say thank you to the people who have signed up and are supporting the show. | ||
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That sounds great. | |
| So, first of all, David, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
| Thank you, David. | ||
| Next, Alex Jones in the Bone Zone. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you, AJ and the BJ, or BZ. | ||
| I think that's buzz marketing for Caveman. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Possibly. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Next, Jonathan. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Jonathan. | ||
| Next, Kara. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much, Kara. | ||
| That's K-A-H-R-A. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, a bloat of hippos. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| The concept of collective nouns. | ||
| Everybody knows it's a murder of hippos. | ||
| It is. | ||
| We can't use that for everything. | ||
| It is for everything. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| And finally, I'd like to say thank you to some people who have signed up on an elevated level. | ||
| We appreciate that very much. | ||
| So first of all, thank you so much, William. | ||
| Thank you so much, Rochelle. | ||
| And thank you so much, Nicholas. | ||
| You are all wonderful technocrats. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Crikey, mate. | ||
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That's fantastic. | |
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright? | ||
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Let's just get down to business. | |
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
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Why are you pimps so good? | |
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
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I declare... | |
| Infowar on you. | ||
| Thank you so much, William, Rochelle, and Nicholas. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| And stick around. | ||
| At the end of the episode, we'll be doing some more shout-outs to folks trying to get closer to current on our roster of wonks. | ||
| Yeah, we feel like people are waiting a long time now that we're backed up, and we don't want to do that. | ||
| No. | ||
| We love you guys. | ||
| Yeah, and if you're out there thinking, hey, I enjoy this show, I'd like to support what these guys do, you can do that by going to our website, clicking the button that says support the show, take you to our Patreon, where... | ||
| Which, you know, hey, Patreon's not perfect, but what are you going to do? | ||
| I'm not going on Hatrion. | ||
| I don't even know if that still exists. | ||
| But anyway, Jordan, we're going to get down to business. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| But first, here's an out-of-context drop from today's show. | ||
| Now, who are you going to call when you go to war with E.T.? | ||
| Ah, Ghostbusters! | ||
| Drew Barrymore? | ||
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No. | |
| You do not ask who you're gonna call if the answer is not the Ghostbusters. | ||
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Who are you gonna call? | |
| It's in the song. | ||
| And it seemed like she was saying it without the real knowledge of what she was doing. | ||
| I can't imagine that. | ||
| I really feel like... | ||
| She said, who are you going to call? | ||
| I know. | ||
| Not, who are you going to call? | ||
| I know. | ||
| Who should you call? | ||
| I bet if you asked her, she'd be like, I don't know what Ghostbusters is. | ||
| Well, the answer isn't Ghostbusters. | ||
| If you're going to fight E.T. Okay. | ||
| I assume it's the secret space program. | ||
| It's probably, Mark. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, here we go. | ||
| Let's jump in with our very standard episode introduction from Carrie. | ||
| Hi, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot. | ||
| Hi, Carrie! | ||
| Today I'm going to be covering my latest interview with Captain Mark Richards of the Secret Space Program. | ||
| And I interviewed him in the beginning of September. | ||
| However, I've had multiple issues with both computers and the various renditions I've tried to do of this. | ||
| Little talk. | ||
| And now I'm trying this all over again. | ||
| So here we go, and hopefully this will work. | ||
| So apparently she has recorded this a couple times already. | ||
| That is important. | ||
| It definitely comes into play. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So she's delayed in this. | ||
| She has gone to visit Mark Richards maybe like a month ago or so, and now she's finally being able to get this information out. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| And that's great. | ||
| As we know, every single time that Carrie comes back from visiting Mark Richards, she can't record any audio, she can't record video, so all we have to go on is her memory of things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But thankfully, the prison people don't allow her to have a pen. | ||
| I know. | ||
| But she does get a small pencil. | ||
| So what happens is I am only allowed a pencil, a small pencil, to take notes with. | ||
| So this is called Total Recall 11. This is my 11th interview with Captain Mark Richards. | ||
| So what happens is that I go into the prison and... | ||
| What did she just cut out? | ||
| We have around three hours, sometimes longer. | ||
| I think this time it was around three hours, and I am able to ask him as many questions as I can even think of, although I am not allowed to take any notes into the prison. | ||
| So if I didn't remember to ask a question that you requested, I do apologize. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I guess that kind of makes sense. | ||
| You don't want to let someone bring in some kind of information. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I can maybe see that flow. | ||
| Can you bring in your phone? | ||
| I think they'd probably confiscate it. | ||
| Yeah, they would have to. | ||
| I would assume so. | ||
| Otherwise, you could use your notes app. | ||
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Especially for a murderer. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| If you're going to talk to a cult leader slash murderer. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Maybe they don't want you to have your phone with you. | ||
| That's probably a good idea. | ||
| So you responded exactly, as I hoped you might, to that jump cut. | ||
| There's a huge jump cut there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| And this has to do with what Carrie said in the introduction, that she's having difficulties. | ||
| There's clearly tech problems going on. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But then there's also, like, you'll see a theme developing that she's just editing this very weirdly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This broadcast that she's putting out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have some theories about that, and we'll get to them as this goes along. | ||
| But what's important is that Mark Richards is not a murderer. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| As we know to be. | ||
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unidentified
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Sure, sure, sure. | |
| Proven in the court system, all evidence, confessions of his conspirators, all of these things. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| He was not. | ||
| He was framed for murder. | ||
| And for everybody who hasn't heard all of the Mark Richards episodes, here is Carrie explaining the situation. | ||
| Again. | ||
| In the beginning, I want to say this sort of preamble. | ||
| There was the word. | ||
| This interview takes place in Solano Prison in Northern California. | ||
| And for over thirty-five years, Captain Mark Richards has been, and still is, a prisoner of war in the war between on- and off-planet races that have dominated Earth for centuries. | ||
| He is an honorable officer of the Navy, who, because of his rebellion against the Draco and Reptoids, which is called the Luciferian Alliance, is considered a threat to their operations. | ||
| He was framed for a murder he is accused of having masterminded while he was on a mission off-planet in service to humanity. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He was a captain of a Starship Enterprise-type vessel from a very early age, in fact, probably early 20s and even earlier than that, until he was arrested in, I believe it was 1982 and framed for murder as a mastermind. | ||
| Again, he is framed for a murder he is accused of having masterminded while he was on a mission off-planet in service to humanity. | ||
| You hear that? | ||
| That's just exactly repeating what she had just said. | ||
| That's because there's another jump cut there where she's, like, redoing the stuff. | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| I have a big theory about this. | ||
| So my first thought when we got the first jump cut was she called the prison guards like Zionists or something like that. | ||
| My first thought is like, oh, she's cutting out a lot of weird shit. | ||
| I think there's good reason for you to think that. | ||
| I don't think that's the case. | ||
| But based on what we know of Carrie Cassidy now, the different picture that we have of her from when we started talking about her. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| Yeah, I think she might believe. | ||
| Some things like that. | ||
| I don't think that that's the case. | ||
| I think this is just clunky editing, and she's going to create a conspiracy out of it. | ||
| Oh, do you think she's doing it on purpose? | ||
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No. | |
| Okay. | ||
| She's just shitty at editing. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I think she keeps misspeaking, because there's an instance of this later. | ||
| Where she uses the wrong name for someone, and then there's immediately a jump cut. | ||
| So, like, it's pretty clear to me that what's going on is that she's fucking up her script, and then she's poorly editing the pieces together, and then after the fact is, like, inserting an explanation for it. | ||
| She's gonna end up blaming aliens. | ||
| Yeah, no, no, no, of course, of course. | ||
| I feel like I can tell you that now, because it's kind of implied. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I'm not worried about that. | ||
| Yeah, I have not experienced this in other interviews of hers. | ||
| Like, high level of just terrible presentation, this editing, the slip-ups. | ||
| Like, at the end of that, she says that he was framed for this murder because he was off-planet in service of humanity, and then a small pause, and then the exact same thing again. | ||
| It's like, this is just... | ||
| You need to smooth this out. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| That's weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It indicates a lack of care about the product you're putting out when you have this level of... | ||
| And, like, hey, you know, like, if it's this bad, and there's, like... | ||
| Jump cuts to the point where just anybody listening is like, what's going on here? | ||
| Yeah, what are you, PJ Dubs? | ||
| Rerecord it. | ||
| I know. | ||
| This is only an hour-long video. | ||
| Well, she's already tried to record it a few times. | ||
| Do I believe that, Jordan? | ||
| It's a long time. | ||
| Do I believe that? | ||
| An hour? | ||
| How long does that even take, Dan? | ||
| About an hour. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's a one-to-one measurement. | ||
| So now we get down to the substance of what's going on. | ||
| This has all been prelude up to this point. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And now Carrie gets into... | ||
| I don't know if this is the big deal, but it takes up a bunch of her time, and that is that she has run into a super soldier that we are kind of aware of, that we've talked about in the past, and he has a half-brained, hair-brained idea. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| So the first real topic that we discussed is the Randy Kramer situation regarding revisiting the alien false flag scenario. | ||
| And I told Mark briefly about that idea, and Randy Kramer is, again, a super soldier, a U.S. Marine, and he was also speaking at the Yelm Conference with me and other speakers, and hopefully that footage will be available. | ||
| In the near future. | ||
| Fingers crossed. | ||
| I'd love to see that conference. | ||
| That would be amazing. | ||
| That would be awesome. | ||
| So, we got Randy Kramer, who is actually the subject of our first Project Camelot episode before we discovered Mark Richards. | ||
| Yes, yeah. | ||
| Who is a super soldier. | ||
| And he has come out and he's talking about the alien false flag scenario. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I will just probably try and explain this to you right now because it's really hard to put together from what Carrie is saying. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| The bottom line here is that she believes that Randy Kramer is coming out to this conference that the two of them are speaking at and discussing, on behalf of his military handlers, the idea of precipitating an alien false flag in order to force disclosure. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Disclosure of what? | ||
| Alien existence. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We need the world to understand that there's aliens and there's battles going on. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Down the street. | ||
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unidentified
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Right. | |
| You understand? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Over Lake Michigan, right now. | ||
| Dude, there are Stargates. | ||
| There is a battle happening. | ||
| There are Stargates everywhere. | ||
| Anytime you see inclement weather, that's not a storm. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| That's cover for an alien battle. | ||
| Have you ever known anybody with cancer? | ||
| Actually, spider venom. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So... | ||
| Giant spider venom, obviously. | ||
| Because of that, because that's the real-world situation that we're dealing with, we need disclosure of the aliens. | ||
| All humans can be aware of this stuff. | ||
| However, the evil powers that be, the globalists, the New World Order, the Illuminati, they do not want to disclose all this stuff. | ||
| Because if it is disclosed, humanity and the population will learn that they've been hoarding all of the secret technology for themselves, free energy, all the miracle cures, I guess probably alchemy. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Oh yeah, of course. | ||
| So all this stuff, this alien technology that they've stolen for themselves will be revealed and then there will be a lynch mob out on the street trying to, like, why did you keep this technology from us? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So in order to peacefully do this, they need to have an alien false flag. | ||
| They need to have a fake version of aliens appearing in order to explain this technology being rolled out. | ||
| Randy Kramer is coming out and saying that his military handlers or whatever are allowing him to start talking about that. | ||
| It's convoluted, and that's why even just playing clips of Carrie talking about this doesn't really make it make sense. | ||
| But that's what she's talking about. | ||
| That's Randy Kramer's input into this bullshit. | ||
| It is always fun to me how... | ||
| One, the plans of their perceived enemies are terrible. | ||
| They make no sense. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| And now, admittedly, I would feel betrayed if I found out that Nancy Pelosi has all kinds of secret technology. | ||
| That would bum me out. | ||
| But two, their schemes to counter the ridiculous schemes are far more ridiculous on top of that. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| They wouldn't work. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| They're shitty at planning coming and going. | ||
| The other part of this, too, is that, like, okay, some of these miracle cures that Randy Kramer talks about involve age regression, right? | ||
| Like, eternal youth, that kind of thing. | ||
| Why would David Rockefeller end up being, like, a super unhealthy 90-year-old dude if he had access to this? | ||
| This life extension, age regression technology. | ||
| That is his public face. | ||
| He takes the mask off when he gets home. | ||
| Always! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Occam's razor. | ||
| I've seen Mission Impossible. | ||
| Occam's razor tells us that you are correct. | ||
| So, this leads into talking about this situation a little bit more and how the... | ||
| Carrie might not call it the globalists. | ||
| They call it, like, the secret. | ||
| Space program. | ||
| The Illuminati folk. | ||
| Templars, that kind of thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They have all of this technology, and so this leads into the dynamics of the disclosure stuff. | ||
| He was talking about the military's frustration with our current standstill on planet Earth with regard to disclosure and the fact that they have a very high state of technology in the secret space program that they have been unable to release into the public donations. | ||
| I thought it was copyright laws. | ||
| So what we have is a rogue civilization which involves the U.S. military and the secret space program, the Illuminati and various other factions including various ET races. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And therefore they are operating on basically what can even be considered to be thousands of years in advance of what we are currently dealing with here on planet Earth. | ||
| Thousands. | ||
| On the surface Earth. | ||
| Do you mean... | ||
| As it's called. | ||
| None? | ||
| So this is a big deal, and Randy Kramer military are now coming up with a solution that has to do with revisiting this idea of a false flag alien invasion and or Project Bluebeam, what it's been known by in the past, or a fake alien invasion. | ||
| So this is the solution here. | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| Have you ever heard of Project Bluebeam? | ||
| It comes up all the fucking time. | ||
| Why would I have heard of Project Bluebeam? | ||
| Maybe if you know things. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Maybe if you're a researcher. | ||
| I am not. | ||
| It's one of the biggest, most popular sort of things within UFO, conspiracy, paranormal communities. | ||
| And the first thing that I should point out to you, I think this is very important, about Project Bluebeam, it's not a real thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The name refers to a project that a guy named Serge Monest claimed exists, but no evidence to support the claim has ever been presented. | ||
| According to Monist, in order to fully bring in the New World Order... | ||
| The bad guys first need to create a New Age religion to replace the religions people currently subscribe to, but it also seems like he's mostly interested in talking about the bringing down of Christianity. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you look at his primary sources, it seems all about destroying Christianity. | ||
| All right. | ||
| The other world religions are kind of just an afterthought. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That need to go down. | ||
| This is mostly targeted at Christianity. | ||
| So he wants to destroy Christianity. | ||
| Or, oh, they want to destroy it. | ||
| He's whistleblowing on this project. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| That seems to be his primary focus, the destruction of Christianity. | ||
| In order to achieve this goal, they need to destroy these current religions, which the bad guys would do, with targeted earthquakes at specific sites around the world, which would ultimately unearth evidence that contradicts the known world religions. | ||
| This would be a dumb plan, since most religious belief is not based on empirical evidence, and it isn't really susceptible to that kind of counterpoint. | ||
| Also, it's a Simpsons episode! | ||
| Well, we'll get to that. | ||
| Either way. | ||
| Even the Simpsons did fucking space weirdo shit? | ||
| Either way, once this New World religion is in place, the NWO would then use holograms to project the deities and avatars of each religion to the people in the areas where that religion is prominent. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| So, like, Jesus would show up in Christian areas, the Buddha and Buddhist ones, Muhammad and Islamic ones. | ||
| I guess they'd throw a tree in for Wiccans or something. | ||
| I think, yeah, a really big one. | ||
| Gaia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ultimately, all of these avatars would then merge into one new god, the god of the New World Order, the Antichrist. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Which everyone would then worship, but it's all just a trick. | ||
| It's all holograms. | ||
| Now, now that the public accepts this new God, the NWO would begin using electronic waves to begin projecting thoughts into people's heads, making them think that God is talking to them. | ||
| This would facilitate their ultimate goal, which is making everyone think that a real crisis is imminent in the form of an impending alienation. | ||
| an invasion or the rapture, whatever form they decide to take. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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The people would be so scared that they would beg for the implementation of the New World Order. | |
| And just like that, the one world government is established. | ||
| Easy as riding a bike. | ||
| I mean, if everything goes according to plan, I agree with you. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So long as there are zero, zero mistakes along the way in that fucking Rube Goldberg machine of a silly plan. | ||
| There are a lot of really dumb parts to that plan. | ||
| Probably too many to count. | ||
| And the date that this was supposed to be set into motion, this plan, it's been predicted incorrectly a lot of times. | ||
| A lot of times, yeah. | ||
| I'm less interested in how logistically stupid this plan is and more interested in a few things that stick out to me that make me think that Alex Jones definitely believes in Project Bluebeam. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But he's smart enough not to talk. | ||
| weirdo. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| First thing, Alex definitely believes the globalists are trying to destroy Christianity in order to have their own religion. | ||
| Right. | ||
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He's said this a bunch of times, whether it's in the form of him saying that the state is the new religion, or sometimes he says political correctness. | |
| Sure. | ||
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And it's always a thing where the globalists are trying to get rid of these religions because Like, Christianity is a threat to the ability to the New World Order coming into place. | |
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Follows very closely with this Project Bluebeam idea. | ||
| I believe I heard the quote from a Knights Templar that religions are, quote, pesky. | ||
| Second, this supposed plan follows almost exactly the Hegelian dialectic that Alex is obsessed with. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Problem, reaction, solution. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| And that's how he insists the globalists operate. | ||
| They can only take power by creating chaos, which they then provide a solution to. | ||
| That sort of thing really fits with Alex's conception. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Third, everything in this theory matches up with things that Alex believes. | ||
| The UN is behind the plans. | ||
| It involves destroying national sovereignty. | ||
| It involves making all money electronic. | ||
| It involves the destruction of the family unit. | ||
| It involves camps for people who won't accept the new world order. | ||
| It involves the human sacrifice specifically of Christian children. | ||
| It involves the literal devil being behind the new world order. | ||
| It involves movies and television shows preparing the world for the rollout of the plans, predictive That's a lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's one other aspect. | ||
| Some might say too much. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| There's one other aspect to this that makes me suspect that Alex believes this shit. | ||
| Most of the people who believe in this theory are basing their belief on a 1994 lecture given by Serge Monest. | ||
| One small point about this lecture. | ||
| It's only available as a transcript. | ||
| Published on educateyourself.org. | ||
| And I have bad news about this site. | ||
| In the middle of the lecture, the editor of the site interrupts to say, quote, at this point, interrupting the transcript, I'm compelled to include three statements from the protocols of the elders of Zion. | ||
| Compelled? | ||
| By whom? | ||
| The Spirit? | ||
| Christ. | ||
| In an effort to reinforce this honest guy, his claims, the natural move is to say, this is right in line with the Protocols. | ||
| So I guess Blue Beam is being run by the Jews? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How could we imagine that they weren't behind this, naturally? | ||
| In the lecture, Monist argues that the plan was originally to start this plan up in 1983, ultimately bringing in the New World Order the next year, which explains the name of Orwell's book, 1984. | ||
| There are always a lot of, uh, oh, he wrote the book? | ||
| That must mean that he's the one telling us what they're doing, and so on and so forth, yes. | ||
| This lecture was in 1994, and you know what that means. | ||
| The globalists are ten years behind on their plans. | ||
| Oh no! | ||
| No! | ||
| Fucking no! | ||
| That's a claim that Alex is so consistent in making. | ||
| We've joked about it a ton in the past, like how he randomly just says that they're 10 years behind with no citation or explanation for what he's talking about. | ||
| In my specific sources that I've been able to find that Alex has referenced in other contexts, I can't find any real concrete instances of people saying that the globalist plans are 10 years behind. | ||
| But this lecture about Project Bluebeam is very explicit about exactly that. | ||
| No, no, stop it. | ||
| Does that mean that Alex is taking his ideas from this place? | ||
| Not necessarily. | ||
| But it's a possibility. | ||
| Right. | ||
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It matches with this very bizarre element that we've seen. | |
| Why are they ten years behind? | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
| This Project Bluebeam was ten years behind very explicitly. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| And this is right around when Alex started his radio career. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| There's so much bullshit out there. | ||
| Naturally, we're going to get coincidences. | ||
| It could be that. | ||
| Maybe not even that. | ||
| Maybe it could just be osmosis. | ||
| Like, he's aware of these space weirdos given their ten years, and that's just filtered into his head. | ||
| You know, that's possible. | ||
| But there are so many fucking ones that show up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's entirely possible. | ||
| It's just a coincidence in that a lot of people have ideas about the bad guys being ten years behind. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I mean, ten is a nice round number. | ||
| It certainly is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Carrie is listing off Project Blue Beam as a time when the government had considered using an alien false flag in order to bring in control of the population. | ||
| And now she's learned that super soldier Randy Kramer, along with his very real military cohorts, are thinking about using the same tricks to force the government's hand about alien disclosure. | ||
| So they'll be forced to release all the secret technology they've been keeping for themselves. | ||
| So we're using the NWO's plan against them. | ||
| New world order. | ||
| Obviously, the first two problems that come up here are, one, there's no way Randy Kramer is going to be able to pull off faking an alien invasion. | ||
| He doesn't have the resources, the planning skills, creativity, or anything that would be needed. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And he doesn't have these military handlers. | ||
| No, he doesn't. | ||
| This is all bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Second. | ||
| That's an issue. | ||
| Project Blue Beam wasn't a real government plan. | ||
| And people have actually been able to trace down. | ||
| where Serge Monest got his ideas from. | ||
| Uh, okay. | ||
| All the various plans that the New World Order was supposedly going to be carrying out were all elements of an unproduced script that Gene Roddenberry had written in 1975 in a first attempt at making Star Trek into a movie. | ||
| The script had been unreleased in 1975 when he had written it and it got shelved, but in 1994, just prior to Monist coming out with his lecture in Revelations, Joel Engel had written a book called Gene Roddenberry, The Myth and the Man Behind Star Trek, which had included a bunch of information about this shelved project. | ||
| Though it was never made into a movie back in 1975, many elements of the original script were used in the 1991 Star Trek The Next Generation episode The Devils Do, which also predates Monist's conspiracy theories. | ||
| All of this comes from Star Trek. | ||
| God damn it, Picard! | ||
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This is all just Gene Rodbury shit. | |
| Of course. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Why wouldn't it be? | ||
| And The Devil's Due is a really highly rated episode. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And it's also just about Captain Picard trying to get into legal arbitration against an alien. | ||
| It's like, why is this a show? | ||
| It's awesome, but... | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| We need to settle some trade disputes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I gotcha. | ||
| So, Project Blue Beam being used as an example is, first of all, just like... | ||
| I mean, I love it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I love the idea that this all just traces back to an unproduced Gene Rodden... | ||
| Well, I mean, fucking Mark Richards... | ||
| Piloted craft that was very much like the fucking Star Trek. | ||
| Starship Enterprise. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I mean, Carrie said it earlier. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Enterprise-like craft. | ||
| It is never, never surprising to me how little effort or imagination these people put into their bullshit. | ||
| And it's crazy how overt it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, this is something that even conspiracy communities and paranormal communities have called this out about. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You don't need to go to skeptic sites to find the information about Project Blue Beam. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You'll find that in UFO sites. | ||
| They even discredit this shit. | ||
| Oh, they discredit it. | ||
| Not all of them. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But people who are on closer to the up and up. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| People who are a little bit more critical of information are like, there's no way he didn't take this from that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe he didn't even steal it from that, but this information was out there. | ||
| There's a really good chance. | ||
| The Next Generation episode maybe read the Engels book and just incorporated it into a theory. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I think it's stupid. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Or he astral projected into Gene Roddenberry's house and looked over his shoulder while he was writing that script and was like, that's exactly what the NWO would do. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That makes sense to me. | ||
| And then, of course, the problem with this whole bullshit is that, like, even if you bring up and point out all this stuff, they'd be like, yeah, well, you know what? | ||
| Gene Roddenberry was just CIA. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Predictive, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Predictive programming messages. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Of course that would be in a Star Trek episode. | ||
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Right, right, right, right. | |
| Because they need to prepare the world to... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So we're trying to pull a... | ||
| Y 'all are trapped. | ||
| We're trying to pull a false flag independence day is what's going on here. | ||
| More or less. | ||
| So that's great. | ||
| And that'll come back up. | ||
| This is going to be a theme that sort of reappears. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| This is Randy Kramer coming out with false flag alien information. | ||
| But before we get back to that... | ||
| We have some more information from Mark. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And this, like, is another trend that I'm seeing more and more of in these interviews. | ||
| And that is trying to take anything that people could be worried about and saying, eh, it's just aliens. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I think that you do a great disservice to reality. | ||
| Oh, you think? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The idea here is that the hidden wars are also hidden by fires in California. | ||
| That happened in the last two years. | ||
| We had fires in Northern and Southern California simultaneously in the month, I think it was, of October last year, and that was in 2018 and also in 2017. | ||
| We're coming upon the fire season again this year. | ||
| We'll see what happens. | ||
| So you've got these fires that are largely the result of climate change and sort of changing ecosystems. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And instead of dealing with that in a real way and thinking about solutions and possible ways forward, you pretend that they're just cover-ups for alien invasions. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| That's a real trend that we're going to see, not just in relation to climate stuff. | ||
| Based on that, everything is going great. | ||
| There isn't international conflict. | ||
| There isn't climate change. | ||
| Humans are all in this together. | ||
| We all love each other so much. | ||
| There are no problems except the one problem, and that is fucking aliens. | ||
| It's a big one. | ||
| It is a big one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now let me ask you a question. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Is there any way for us to broadcast our show to perhaps the Draco, the Reptoids, or the Raptors? | ||
| I don't think they'd listen. | ||
| Because I feel like that's how we could make a difference. | ||
| Our show? | ||
| Our show. | ||
| You and me, we could make a difference in this fucking eternal war, apparently. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We could try and reach detente. | ||
| I think we can do it. | ||
| We could have our own little Yalta conference. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| We'll set a fire in here, we'll cover it up, and we'll meet with the Draco. | ||
| My house burned down like ten years ago. | ||
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I'm sorry. | |
| Let's not even joke about that. | ||
| I'm sorry, I'm sorry. | ||
| Very sensitive about house fires. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| False flag something else. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Maybe a thunderstorm. | ||
| That's very nice. | ||
| Nice gentle rain. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So we get back to the false flag, the alien false flag scenario here. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| And so Carrie was at this conference with Randy, and apparently there was a talkback section where she got to ask some questions, and she is not thrilled with some of Randy's responses. | ||
| I challenged Randy Kramer in public during his talk, and that created something of a... | ||
| Big kind of to do because Randy was not happy with the challenge. | ||
| And actually, we parted as friends. | ||
| So it was all in really a positive light. | ||
| But nonetheless, I did ask him who... | ||
| What kind of alien they were going to choose for this alien evasion. | ||
| That was my first question. | ||
| He didn't answer the question. | ||
| I asked him that several times. | ||
| She keeps asking which aliens are going to pin this on. | ||
| I know why she was asking that. | ||
| Don't blame the Raptors. | ||
| She wanted him to say the Raptors. | ||
| Don't you dare blame the Raptors. | ||
| She wanted him to say the Raptors. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| It's all about doing... | ||
| That's the only thing. | ||
| She's trying to protect her friendly alien races. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Tell your military people that the raptors shall not be used in this false flag situation lest they get bad press. | ||
| Right. | ||
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They love humans. | |
| They just eat children for chocolate sometimes. | ||
| You know, behind the scenes, when they're not performing, you expect them to be like, hey, look, I know you're on your grift. | ||
| I'm on my grift. | ||
| We're going to part as friends. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| It was great theater we did out there. | ||
| But in reality, they do go behind the scenes and they're like, the raptors had nothing to do with this shit, man! | ||
| It seems like that might be the case. | ||
| Although a Q&A session during this conference is still kind of performance time. | ||
| No, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the theater that they're doing, is they're publicly showing all the other space weirdos. | ||
| But we're unaware of any actual, like, arguing behind the scenes. | ||
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Right. | |
| Except for self-reporting of arguing behind the scenes. | ||
| Exactly, exactly. | ||
| So it still all could be, to an extent, performative. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And weirdly enough, to an extent. | ||
| I think I trust Carrie when she says they came away with this positively. | ||
| Oh, I'm sure. | ||
| I think I trust her. | ||
| There's only so much arguing you can do about imaginary things. | ||
| Eventually you're either going to fight or be like, listen, we both want the same thing. | ||
| Let's have a drink. | ||
| Calm down. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| So this took place at the Yelma Conference, Carrie keeps saying. | ||
| And I just let that slide for like the first four or five times she brought it up. | ||
| Split that up. | ||
| The Yelma Conference. | ||
| Y-E-L-M. | ||
| Oh, Yelma Conference. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Okay. | ||
| So after she said it a bunch of times, like Randy was there and he's talking about big revelations, I decided I got to look into this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I generally, you know, I figured... | ||
| Initially, it's like, okay, it's probably a bunch of space weirdos. | ||
| They rented out a hotel conference room. | ||
| What the fuck ever. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But it wasn't a name I'd ever heard before, so let's learn a little. | ||
| The Yelm Cosmic Symposium started in 2017 as an offshoot of the Yelm UFO Fest, held in Yelm, Washington, population 6,800. | ||
| I've watched some promotional videos at the UFO Fest, and it's mostly people setting up booths to sell alien t-shirts and some absurd musical performances by people in absurd costumes. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| It's basically a commercial enterprise mixed with a state fair kind of environment where people are selling alien bobbleheads. | ||
| You've got a picture in your head of it if you just imagine a state fair, but it's all alien shit. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's a starship. | ||
| Commercial enterprise. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's kind of the sense that I got. | ||
| And it's an assessment that's borne out by a number of articles from local papers that I could find about the event. | ||
| Everybody's kind of having a good time. | ||
| Yeah, and it's for families, you know, to bring kids in. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's like a futuristic Ren Fair. | ||
| Yeah, and there's people who do art, and they'll do alien-themed art for sale on site. | ||
| That's great! | ||
| This is wholesome fun. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like a good time. | ||
| The UFO Fest is free, since they want families to come in and enjoy the food vendors and weird bands, and overall just have a good time, while also providing the highest number possible... | ||
| Of potential customers for the alien merch vendors. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That's the relationship that's going on there. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| The Cosmic Symposium, the conference, is not free. | ||
| That's for the hardcore guys. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Gotcha. | ||
| An article in the Daily Chronicle from 2017 put the price of tickets at $250 for a three-day pass to the symposium. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| One of the speakers... | ||
| That year, in 2017, was a woman named Jay-Z Knight, who claims that she can channel a 35,000-year-old warrior spirit named Ramtha. | ||
| Right. | ||
| She's attracted a large number of followers because of this. | ||
| She's also dropped the Blueprint 4. Indeed. | ||
| Probably important to point out that the founder of the Cult Education Center has described Jay-Z Knight's Ramtha group as fulfilling the main requirements to be called a, quote, destructive cult. | ||
| Okay, now that's an issue. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We should start there. | ||
| The SPLC reported in 2014 on videos of some of her lectures to her followers that included her saying things like the following, quote, Fuck God's chosen people. | ||
| I think they've earned enough cash to- I think they have earned enough cash to have paid their way out of the goddamn gas chambers by now. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What the fuck? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's real cool that she's still- I don't even know what that means! | ||
| It's real cool that she's still invited to speak at this cosmic symposium three years after this came out. | ||
| Also, earlier this year, Knight tried to reach out to the QAnon community by saying that Q was a divine intelligence. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| This isn't surprising on a very basic level. | ||
| If a cult leader knows anything, it's how to identify vulnerable populations for potential followers. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And the Q people are the biggest game in town on that level. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Anybody who's smart right now who is a cult leader, manipulator, absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| With the absence of 8chan and their sort of guiding light, they're ripe. | ||
| For radicalization in a different direction. | ||
| Yeah, now that Q has a power vacuum, fucking sweep that shit up and everybody's sucking about it. | ||
| It's something very important to pay attention to. | ||
| And law enforcement better be watching that. | ||
| God, isn't that amazing that you can see these other parasitic cult leaders literally trying to find the giant Q section that's for them and just take it away? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's so wild that these people are so dumb that go from Q to this bullshit. | ||
| I mean, call it dumb. | ||
| Or call it in a bad place in life? | ||
| Possibly vulnerable? | ||
| No, I mean, look, my parents were in a cult. | ||
| I know how you get into a cult. | ||
| I think vulnerable is a better way to put it, because dumb has such a judging connotation to it. | ||
| And a lot of people are in a circumstance in their life that makes them... | ||
| Susceptible. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Some of it is a choice, and some of it isn't people's fault when they are the victims of the sort of... | ||
| Malicious act by manipulators. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I like to not presume judgment as best I can. | ||
| So let me... | ||
| I agree with you on your first cult. | ||
| But if you start in cult one and then jump over to cult two, that's on you. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's on you, man. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| That's on you. | ||
| Second cult? | ||
| No. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Cult me once. | ||
| Shame on me. | ||
| That would be nice. | ||
| But also, it doesn't always work in a way where someone's in a cult, and then they become completely disillusioned. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's where they go from. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Sometimes, you're in a cult, and you think, like, oh, some of this was right, but some of it was wrong. | ||
| Let me refine this. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Then you join another one. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| I think being part of one almost makes you more prone and vulnerable to being part of the second. | ||
| No, and I can totally see where you're coming from there. | ||
| I wish it was the case that, like... | ||
| All of this was rational choices. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But I don't think it is. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| But that has nothing to do with Jay-Z Knight. | ||
| She is a monster who's definitely... | ||
| No, 100%. | ||
| The people who are being targeted by her get a little bit more empathy. | ||
| But for her, I mean... | ||
| And like I said, those videos of her yelling anti-Semitic racist shit came out in 2014. | ||
| She was invited to the 2017 Yelm. | ||
| The Cosmic Symposium. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, you scratch all these people. | ||
| You're going to get somebody who hates the Jews. | ||
| That tells you something, though. | ||
| Like, what are the standards by which they're booking this conference? | ||
| If they allow someone like her who's running a destructive cult that has very strong anti-Semitic leanings, that's not just someone who channels a fucking alien and is quirky. | ||
| That's someone who has ill will. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they're still like, eh, it's fine. | ||
| So in 2018, the festival was cut down to a two-day event, and in 2019, it was renamed the Earth UFO Festival. | ||
| And in 2019, it appears the price had been cut down to $150 for full access to the symposium. | ||
| No one really announces the lineup of this thing. | ||
| You do get double Patriot points, though. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| So the lineup is tough to find of this conference. | ||
| But thankfully, Carrie put a list up on her website. | ||
| And this year, she was there along with Randy Kramer. | ||
| But also, Mark Richards' wife, Joanne, was there. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And Mark Richards' associate, Simon Parks, was also there giving lectures. | ||
| The guy who has sex with an alien every year. | ||
| Yeah, and there was a suspicious D. Duke on there. | ||
| I don't know what that was about. | ||
| I looked a little deeper. | ||
| I found that in 2018, last year, Carrie was there too. | ||
| She was there two years in a row. | ||
| And that year, she had a three-hour time slot on Saturday, which is way too long. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| It boggles the mind how off the rails that must have got. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If that wasn't enough, you know who else was there who came on stage right after her? | ||
| Jordan Sather, the noted QAnon promoter who was involved with that whole let's drink bleach thing earlier this year. | ||
| Good to see this festival only booking the top people. | ||
| Man, these guys just fucking... | ||
| Weird. | ||
| They just know. | ||
| They just know each other. | ||
| Also, weirdly, Randy Kramer and Simon Parks were both speakers that year, too. | ||
| There's a heavy, heavy overlap in the rosters from year to year. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I had to dig deep into the UFO Fest's Facebook page to find the lineup for the first year in 2017. | ||
| But guess what? | ||
| Simon Parks and Randy Kramer were there that year, too. | ||
| They've been there every year. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But it gets better. | ||
| Do they help? | ||
| Organize it or something? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| At least not in any official announcement. | ||
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Gotcha. | |
| Any way I can find. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| But, get this. | ||
| Also, in 2017, you know who else was there? | ||
| Joanne Richards? | ||
| Andrew Basiago. | ||
| The man who claims that he was enlisted as a child to go on teleporting missions to Mars with a young kid who would grow up to be President Barack Obama. | ||
| Yeah, I recall him. | ||
| He also says he's a half-dolphin warrior. | ||
| He's a half-dolphin warrior? | ||
| He can breathe underwater. | ||
| Which part? | ||
| And he has run for president a number of times. | ||
| And plans to in 2020. | ||
| I need this clarified. | ||
| Where is the... | ||
| It's a DNA thing. | ||
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It's not like a physical thing. | |
| Okay, so he's a half-dolphin, not half-dolphin-warrior. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's not half a man who fights dolphins. | ||
| As I recall... | ||
| He is a half dolphin who fights other people. | ||
| As I recall from listening to an interview, what it is is that he can breathe underwater. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So he can go down to the Bermuda Triangle. | ||
| There's a base down there. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And because he's half dolphin and can breathe underwater, he is able to swim down there. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Or something. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| That's what I remember of that interview that I heard years ago from him. | ||
| Anyway, he was there the first year. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| Basiago! | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What I'm getting at is this conference looks like shit. | ||
| It's an offshoot of a state fair-ass UFO festival, and the lineup of speakers seems to be just whoever says yes, regardless of whether or not they're completely mentally unstable, regardless of whether or not they're cult leaders. | ||
| There's a lot of lame UFO symposiums, but honestly, this one seems... | ||
| About, like, the lamest. | ||
| Yeah, that doesn't sound good. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| So that's where Randy Kramer's putting out his UFO false flag scenario. | ||
| And it's held in a Best Western in Yelm. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| No, I don't... | ||
| You don't even think it's up to Best Western territory? | ||
| No, it's out in a field, man. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| They got an awesome, cool... | ||
| I would like to go to it. | ||
| I wouldn't pay for the symposium. | ||
| Oh, God, no. | ||
| But it does seem like... | ||
| Well, if it's out in the field, we could just walk in. | ||
| I've snuck into Lollapalooza. | ||
| Don't tell no one. | ||
| You think I paid to get into that monster truck rally I told you about a couple episodes back? | ||
| Please. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm sorry I would assume that. | ||
| I'm a sneaker. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, we get back to this, and we talk some more about this false flag strategy thing. | ||
| And here, if you pay close attention, you'll see what I was talking about earlier, why I think she's editing. | ||
| Because in the middle of this, she calls Randy Ron. | ||
| And you'll clearly hear that's exactly where the edit happens. | ||
| I did talk about this dichotomy and why they would have to go to these lengths to bring disclosure. | ||
| And, of course, the obvious one is that they don't want lynch mobs to come forward when things like free energy, etc., are basically the result of disclosure. | ||
| And this kind of disclosure would create a great deal of chaos, after which they would, according to Ron, after which... | ||
| According to Randy Kramer, they would trot out the free energy and all of the new toys, etc., that they've been using, and obviously commercial off-planet travel, and the fact that they go interstellar. | ||
| There's so many ways to edit better than this. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| What don't you understand? | ||
| I don't understand how you could... | ||
| Why do you fade out? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
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And even then, why are you editing it but leaving in Ron? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, you could edit it, or you could just be like, Ron, oops, sorry, Randy, that's all you have to do! | ||
| It would be super simple. | ||
| It does seem to imply that maybe she said something. | ||
| Or maybe she's, like, so angry that she said Ron and then started screaming obscenities. | ||
| Ron, that piece of shit, Zionist. | ||
| God damn it, I said it again! | ||
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Clip. | |
| Cut that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's just very clear to me based on things like that. | ||
| There are instances of that. | ||
| You kind of see, like, oh, whenever there's these jumps, it's probably because there was some problem with the original recording. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And she's not good enough at editing or production. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You do another take, and then you make it obvious that there's a second take. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| But she addresses these jump cuts in the middle of the episode. | ||
| Well, of course. | ||
| It's getting to be an issue. | ||
| And she has no real explanation for it. | ||
| There is... | ||
| These weird drop frames that's happening with me, and we don't know why in this recording. | ||
| So I want to apologize for that. | ||
| And you will see it periodically. | ||
| Convenient that these drop frames are, you know, just... | ||
| God, that's such a fun... | ||
| Like when you build an audience like that where you can just say, we're looking into what is clearly just, I'm shitting at editing. | ||
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But why? | |
| And they're like... | ||
| Haha, it must be aliens who are dropping it out. | ||
| Or, Dan, next theory. | ||
| She is living in a reality that is jump-cutting her. | ||
| Oh, it could be. | ||
| Yeah, see? | ||
| You're getting ahead of it a little bit because she still doesn't have an explanation. | ||
| She's just saying it's happening. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And maybe like ten minutes later or so, she does explain... | ||
| Reality itself is glitching. | ||
| That's the only thing that I can... | ||
| I would love that to be the explanation. | ||
| It's far simpler. | ||
| It's just probably aliens. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I do want to say that these interviews are now being interfered with in a very strange way. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I have now disconnected my Yeti microphone because of the drop frames issue that's happening. | ||
| But it's not really a drop frame because I can see that it's happening here again and I don't have a Yeti microphone connected. | ||
| So what's happening is that whatever ET races, I'm not even connected to the internet right now, are interfering with my brand new computer and my sort of trying to record this interview here, this interview recall. | ||
| So please bear with me when you see the jumps in the frames. | ||
| That is some kind of interference that is happening. | ||
| It may be this, you know. | ||
| The military is shooting some kind of pulse beam weapon at this thing. | ||
| I have had that in other interviews in the past. | ||
| Or, on the other hand, it could be just some gray negative ETs or whatever. | ||
| Absolutely possible. | ||
| So we'd like to ask them to leave and let them do my work. | ||
| And so that's what's happening here. | ||
| When she said it just could be, I really thought she was going to say it just could be some sort of a processing issue. | ||
| Nope, nope. | ||
| I knew there was zero chance. | ||
| She said it could just be, and then the thing that comes after it is gray aliens. | ||
| I was like, I should have known better. | ||
| I thought it would be like, hey, look, I don't really know this computer super well yet. | ||
| It's brand new. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe the settings aren't set totally right. | ||
| All kinds of little minutiae things. | ||
| We've had this happen a bunch of times through our recording. | ||
| We've had different recording paradigms, setups, over the course of doing this show, and especially when we switched from me playing the clips from my phone to doing it straight from the computer. | ||
| There were a ton of little slip-ups. | ||
| I could have very easily been like, Alex is doing a DDoS attack on us. | ||
| It's just a technology you're not used to, whatever system you're using. | ||
| I don't understand the need for bravado like this. | ||
| I will tell you this 100%. | ||
| Here was my thought as she was going through that. | ||
| She was like, something's interfering with my new computer. | ||
| I was like, it's your new computer, and there is no... | ||
| No chance in hell you will even acknowledge that that could be the possibility. | ||
| No chance in hell. | ||
| She's actually more furious at the greys than she is at the fact that she doesn't know how to use her new fucking computer. | ||
| It does seem that way. | ||
| And it's interesting. | ||
| I mean, it is a window into how this thought process works. | ||
| Everything is an indication of what you want it to be. | ||
| Every single damn thing fits into the pre-constructed narrative that you already have. | ||
| I'm having a difficult time getting this episode together because I keep misspeaking or this program glitches and I'm not entirely sure how to use it. | ||
| well, that's got to be a fucking pulse weapon attack. | ||
| Just grow up. | ||
| Although I wonder if that eliminates that... | ||
| Like, you know how you have that moment where suddenly, like, for some reason you've just lost the remote control. | ||
| It's probably stuck in the couch or something like that. | ||
| And you can't find it. | ||
| And suddenly you're just so furious. | ||
| There's no reason for you to be so angry that you can't find this remote control. | ||
| It's such a petty, silly thing. | ||
| But you're just like, this is how bad I am as a person. | ||
| I can't even find a fucking remote. | ||
| She doesn't have that. | ||
| She's just like, oh, aliens stole it. | ||
| Alright, I'll get a new remote. | ||
| Like, she's crazy! | ||
| I suspect that there's still the same anger that's just directed at aliens. | ||
| I don't think that this sort of frees you up to be zen about the frustrations that happen in life. | ||
| It's just a way to cut off self-reflection. | ||
| You punch a wall and yell reptoid instead of just punching a wall. | ||
| From now on, I will, if I am ever angry, I will punch him wall and yell reptoid. | ||
| Goddamn ant beings! | ||
| That's how we know each other. | ||
| I don't think, I appreciate what you're suggesting. | ||
| If that were the case, then maybe I would recommend this being a therapeutic way to look at the world, but I don't think that's the case. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| So you can meditate on OM. | ||
| Or you can believe that raptors are behind everything. | ||
| Choose your own adventure. | ||
| It's a big world. | ||
| There's a lot of options. | ||
| So, we get back to Randy. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And now, so far, this alien false flag disclosure... | ||
| By the way, not a lot of Mark yet. | ||
| There's a lot of Randy at the beginning. | ||
| How far are we into this? | ||
| You know, a ways. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I would say that this is probably about, like... | ||
| Two-thirds Mark and one-third Randy stuff. | ||
| But the Randy stuff is a little bit more substantive. | ||
| Because there's an actual conference that she went to that you can look into. | ||
| She brought up Project Bluebeam. | ||
| There's more things. | ||
| But she now kind of makes a conspiracy out of this. | ||
| Randy Kramer might be working across purposes a little bit. | ||
| She's sort of casting suspicion. | ||
| Now, it's also important to realize that in this scenario, that they could trot an idea forward through Randy Kramer to this very alternative group in Yelm, which is a very small conference. | ||
| And then it would disseminate out from there, the idea being, he said, to keep humans a certain... | ||
| amount of humans, very small, that would trickle down into the alternative community, and so that those people, during the battles with aliens that are actually real battles, would be putting out the idea that they're fake battles, so that there would be some cooler heads out there putting the doubt. | ||
| This is, again, an Illuminati tactic. | ||
| They want to put forth the idea that, on the one hand, we are battling aliens, but On the other hand, they're fake aliens, when in reality, they're real aliens. | ||
| I don't even care. | ||
| You're shaking your head. | ||
| This is the first time where I've been angry at her for coming up with the thing that I would have said to mock her with how stupid this plan is. | ||
| I just want to say... | ||
| It's one of those things where you just throw your hands up. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| What are you going to do with this? | ||
| Carrie, don't even explain it. | ||
| Just say... | ||
| Double bluff, and then we'll move on. | ||
| Alright, so maybe the Illuminati is getting Randy to say this stuff in order to hip some real cool people who will have calmer heads in order to be there when a real alien invasion happens to say, hey, it's just a fake alien invasion when it's actually a real alien invasion. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's a... | ||
| It's exhausting. | ||
| It's a co-opting of... | ||
| Man! | ||
| I just, I can't hang. | ||
| I can't hang. | ||
| Carrie, that's the dumbest shit you've ever said. | ||
| But what's pretty remarkable about it is that there is an element of this that is, like, really, it's, I mean, it's directed in a very dumb direction, but it's kind of good critical thinking. | ||
| You know, like, in terms of it being, like, what are the possibilities? | ||
| Okay, okay, okay. | ||
| I can see your angle here. | ||
| Take away the fact that they're talking about a fake alien invasion. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Just put the X in as a variable for that. | ||
| And Carrie is considering, like, alright, what are the motivations for saying X? | ||
| Like, the fact that she's taken it that far into, like, alright, maybe it's sincere, maybe it's fake, maybe it's fake sincere. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, at least there's that path that's being walked, but it's ultimately all meaningless. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| At least it is an exercise down, like, the paths that you should walk with information. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It doesn't lead you to the right place, though. | ||
| Do you know what's... | ||
| What I find very strange... | ||
| It's misdirected critical thinking. | ||
| Yes, no, absolutely. | ||
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I suppose not strange, but almost even more... | |
| It's heartening in a way that is more disheartening than it could ever be. | ||
| Is that through our time with Carrie, she has become more critically thinking-minded. | ||
| Maybe she's listening. | ||
| However, the problem is, she has applied it to... | ||
| Even more insane ideas. | ||
| True. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, she used to, again, we used to call, or I used to call her the most credulous person that could be had. | ||
| She just believed everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now she's pushing back on people. | ||
| She's grown as a person, only to become more paranoid and insane. | ||
| Well, it's like that, like... | ||
| When you're asking these questions, like, what's more likely? | ||
| Is it more likely that Randy Kramer is being sincere about his alien false flag stuff, or that he's being put up to it by the Illuminati in order to do this? | ||
| Right. | ||
| What you're doing is also excluding another possibility, and that is he's full of shit. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And just making a bunch of shit up. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And so that's the part of the incredulous, credulous spectrum that's missing. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Is the possibility that these people don't know shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that is just excluded. | ||
| And that's why this exercise in critical thinking is flawed. | ||
| Because compared to this is a real suggestion of a false flag or it's a PSYOP or whatever, I'm not sure which one of those is more likely. | ||
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But either of them are far less likely. | |
| One of them is more likely than the other in your mind, right? | ||
| And so you could choose one and critically be like, well, here's this. | ||
| Ooh, that's a good point. | ||
| But if you introduce all this is bullshit in there, way more likely. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So you're failing on a critical thinking level if you don't exclude this all doesn't make sense, it's all stupid, you have nothing to prove any of this. | ||
| I have a thought. | ||
| What if we used the tiniest sliver of Occam's razor, Dan? | ||
| Just a tiny little sliver of it. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| And that would be that Randy is right. | ||
| That is so funny. | ||
| You're absolutely right. | ||
| If you have those as two choices and you have to choose, one is more or less likely that there has to be one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You have to choose one. | ||
| If you exclude the possibility of, like, none of this, then it makes sense to operate in a critical... | ||
| way between the options that are available you're just excluding other options So, we're about to leave Randy, for the most part, and I wanted to talk about him a little bit. | ||
| Like I mentioned, we talked about him in the first episode of Project Camelot that we did. | ||
| He's a super soldier. | ||
| He was enlisted by the Secret Space Program, and he was a very young man, whereupon he fought off-planet battles for many years. | ||
| This might seem to be contradicted by there being a ton of evidence that he was absolutely on Earth during those years. | ||
| But don't be so naive. | ||
| He was fighting aliens for years, then the Secret Space Program reinserted him into his younger body minutes after they took him, either using time travel or cloning or something. | ||
| It all makes sense. | ||
| I'm saying this for the listeners who have not listened to the episode with Randy Kramer. | ||
| In case you were wondering, the timeline works out. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| One of Randy's big things was the push to release the holographic regenerating medbeds he swore that the Secret Space Program has. | ||
| There's this secret technology that can easily and harmlessly cure any condition you may have, and the man doesn't want you to know about it. | ||
| Very suspiciously similar to the thing that Luke Skywalker was kept inside of in The Empire Strikes Back. | ||
| Tauntaun? | ||
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| The idea that the man doesn't want people to know about this stuff seems contradicted by the fact that Randy's been going on radio shows and giving speeches about this technology for years and no one has ever stopped him or seems to care. | ||
| He also had a GoFundMe running to develop med beds for all of our use to help humanity. | ||
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So funny. | |
| He needs $70,000 to save humanity from all disease, allow us to regrow limbs, and of course, He basically has found the fountain of youth. | ||
| More people would realize just how bargain eternal life can be. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| You know? | ||
| That page on GoFundMe has been up since February 2017. | ||
| How's it going? | ||
| We're now at about $7,300 raised, which is honestly way more than the other crowdfunding efforts I usually look up for people like this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I think one of the reasons that he's having a bit more success with this is that he's exploiting people's hope and desperation. | ||
| As you can clearly see if you read some of the comments people leave on the page. | ||
| One donor said, quote, all caps, my father needs a med bed soon. | ||
| He will go to heaven in a few months, but the RV is very soon, we hope. | ||
| Then we can build many beds for mankind. | ||
| Or there's another donor, quote, please hurry. | ||
| My hubby has MS and is bedridden. | ||
| If there's any kind of list to get on for treatment, etc., please let me know. | ||
| People need solutions, and when things are desperate, they'll often be more inclined to turn to more irrational solutions. | ||
| A person may be wholly against stealing, but they'll resort to it if they or a loved one is starving, and that's the only option. | ||
| Similarly, if your dad or husband has a condition that conventional medicine doesn't have a lot of great solutions for, it's hard to just give up on them, and it's not uncommon for medical grifters to step in and trying to offer false hope for a price. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| These med beds do not exist. | ||
| They're fantasies of a high-functioning lunatic. | ||
| I wish some billionaire would come along and be like, you need 70 grand? | ||
| Here you go. | ||
| Now let's see the fucking beds, asshole. | ||
| Yeah, no shit. | ||
| If I had a billion dollars, I'd do that in a second. | ||
| I would do that to all of these people. | ||
| Every project bullshit you have is fully funded now. | ||
| Come up with it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Put up or shut up, asshole. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You got 70 grand now. | ||
| That's all you said you needed? | ||
| That's all you needed. | ||
| Now do it. | ||
| Fucking go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because then I'll be like, okay, I'm filing charges against you for fraud. | ||
| You've defrauded all of these people who have given you any money. | ||
| You've defrauded all of the people who get... | ||
| This is... | ||
| It should be insanely criminal. | ||
| Like, this is so gross, this behavior. | ||
| And you totally know, 100%, if a powerful skeptic with all that money were to offer it to them, they'd be like, no, no, no, we don't want your money. | ||
| We would never, no, we don't want your money. | ||
| We can't do that. | ||
| You're one of those people who's trying to discredit me, and when you give me that money, you'll say that I couldn't build it for you. | ||
| It's the same thing with the free speech people refusing to debate people they know will destroy them in debates. | ||
| It's like, debate me, asshole! | ||
| They're like, oh, not you. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Hey, debate me! | ||
| 19-year-old who's not paying attention? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Stephen Fry, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Crowder. | ||
| Not Fry. | ||
| No, Stephen Fry debating. | ||
| But the other thing, too, is that the other option is so built into their worldview already, and that is like, okay, you give me the $70,000, I'm going to make these med beds. | ||
| And then it's like, well, we're working on it, but we're being hit with pulsar weapons from the Reptoids. | ||
| There's all kinds of fantasy explanations for why you can't do it. | ||
| This is just disgusting. | ||
| I don't care if he's collecting this money, this seven grand or whatever, from this GoFundMe. | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| He is making money off this, doing these speech circuits. | ||
| And even if he's not making any money, he's still hurting people. | ||
| It's just fucking disgusting. | ||
| And Randy Kramer is one of those guys who, when we listened to it, it seemed like... | ||
| Like, his episode was like, ah, he's just a harmless weirdo who thinks he got taken into this spaceship. | ||
| It's, uh, like, these people are hurting people. | ||
| It needs to be, you need to understand that. | ||
| Yeah, I am fine. | ||
| Like, we've, we've talked, and in American history especially, there's a certain kind of... | ||
| Romantic concept of the grifter who goes after the rich. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I'm cool with that. | ||
| Robin Hood. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Not even just our culture. | ||
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No, everywhere. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And you're like, yeah, these dumb rich people are no smarter than anybody else and they're going to get taken for a hundred grand. | ||
| Fuck you, you learned your lesson. | ||
| But these guys are bottom feeding, like, I am going to take this dude's last ten bucks because I want ten bucks and he has it. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| And it's like, fuck off, man. | ||
| Yeah, and one of the most effective ways to do that is to invade people's space who are struggling. | ||
| Especially if it's medical shit. | ||
| And the worst part is, Dan, even with a snake oil salesman in the fucking 1800s, like in the Great Depression, at least the goddamn fucking placebo effect might help somebody. | ||
| At least that might help. | ||
| With this medbed bullshit, with just fucking sending him 50 bucks for his GoFundMe, there's no sudden fucking placebo effect for a medbed that's never coming. | ||
| You might feel a little more optimistic or hopeful, but that's not going to do anything. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| It's gross. | ||
| It's legit gross. | ||
| So now we get into some Mark stuff. | ||
| We get done with the Randy business. | ||
| And in this next clip, we get into how there's a bunch of aliens that are all invading us right now. | ||
| Well, of course. | ||
| But humanity has kind of tried to relegate them to deserts, and they kind of want better property. | ||
| They don't like being in the desert. | ||
| Wait, so now we're putting aliens on reservations? | ||
| Yeah, that's heavily implied, but they want better homes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, let's give them to the First Nations then. | ||
| What are we doing with aliens? | ||
| Aliens want to be on the beach. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Mark's point here with regard to all of this is that he says the military is dealing with real multiple invasions by not-so-friendly alien races. | ||
| But a little friendly. | ||
| are getting harder and harder to hide from public scrutiny. | ||
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And this is why they are interested in pushing disclosure at this time. | |
| He also stressed... | ||
| They want to live on the beach! | ||
| Seafront property. | ||
| That's just reasonable, though, man. | ||
| Even aliens want a source of fresh water. | ||
| I can 100% relate with I would rather be on a coast. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Or maybe it's a situation where some of these aliens are interested in commerce and they want to own a port. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| Which I totally understand. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Under our capitalist system, owning a port is a very lucrative business. | ||
| You know, but maybe they just want a better view, man. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Look, I've been in the desert, stayed out there for a little bit. | ||
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Love it. | |
| It's great, but it gets boring, man. | ||
| It gets boring looking out at that sand. | ||
| What about looking out at the water? | ||
| That's just as boring. | ||
| There's two things, though. | ||
| There's sand and water. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's twice as many things as the desert. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that's great. | ||
| And this is kind of a part of another theme that happens. | ||
| First of all, there's the big chunk about the alien disclosure false flag. | ||
| Then there is the rationalizing away any kind of geopolitical issue with aliens. | ||
| And then also there's this new strain that I'm seeing of Mark talking about, like, aliens being expansionist. | ||
| Like, they are not satisfied with being in the desert. | ||
| They want to be on the coast. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| And this will pop up a number of other times. | ||
| And I'm not 100% sure exactly what this is code for. | ||
| Manifest alien destiny, I believe. | ||
| It feels like code for something. | ||
| And we'll see as we go along. | ||
| But, you know, we talked about predictive programming a little bit already. | ||
| The idea that, like, movies and TV shows are just trying to prepare people. | ||
| I suggested that because of what we call Ready Player One, Ender's Game, and also the Halo series, there is a sort of push to have young people battle alien insectoids. | ||
| What about Last Starfighter, lady? | ||
| In some cases, beetle-like beings. | ||
| Out there, and in games, and so on, and also in movies, and in books, and this seems to be preparing them for an alien invasion that involves insectoids. | ||
| So I suggested that the gray aliens are too, there's too many races of them, that that wouldn't be a clear-cut enough enemy, because as they say, you know, there are good gray aliens and other versions, blue aliens. | ||
| Gray aliens and other colors of aliens that are like grays and different sizes as well. | ||
| So this would be a huge mishmash. | ||
| But the aliens that have been depicted in these books and movies to kids may be the alien of choice if you're going to have a fake alien battle in which our military is going to come out victorious. | ||
| So I did... | ||
| Run that by Mark Richards, and he thought that was very possible. | ||
| Very possible. | ||
| Very possible. | ||
| They're gonna bring in the bugs. | ||
| Man, here's the thing. | ||
| What about Mars Attacks? | ||
| No, they didn't have to fight those. | ||
| Not kids, anyways. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Jack Nicholson, of course. | ||
| The thing that you can't get it out of your mind. | ||
| Once you hear her be actually racist in the real world, then the moment she goes... | ||
| Oh, and all aliens are obviously divided along racial lines. | ||
| And you're like, alright, well, that's you being a really, really bad racist, but in a fun way. | ||
| In a space way. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It does have that feeling. | ||
| And I do think that that's a limitation of us listening to so much of this and actually hearing her, like, we can't be... | ||
| Pretending that we're not aware of those positions that she holds. | ||
| No, you can't unknow it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then it does introduce the idea that, like, is all of this racial specification of aliens just sort of a way to mask some other feeling you have? | ||
| It's pretty difficult. | ||
| The Greys are, and all of their races, which are completely different from each other, even though they're all under the same racial, and they are different factions, and you're like, all right, lady, we get it. | ||
| You don't like black people. | ||
| Just leave us alone. | ||
| That's difficult for us to parse out. | ||
| It's really a challenge. | ||
| I'm not saying specifically she doesn't like black people or something. | ||
| I'm just saying that there is such a racial element that it's that kind of idea. | ||
| I think you're fine in your statements, but it's difficult for us to have to listen to this and really trying to figure out, like, eh, you're really talking about aliens? | ||
| What are you doing here? | ||
| But we would be so fucking selfish and naive. | ||
| If we didn't recognize that this is difficult for Carrie, too. | ||
| She has to go to a prison and talk to a weirdo and take notes with a little pencil. | ||
| You're not wrong. | ||
| She's got a golf pencil. | ||
| That's tough. | ||
| It's so hard. | ||
| Everything I'm talking about is available on my website on a transcript of this talk here. | ||
| Basically, the notes that I wrote. | ||
| And those notes are taken right after I leave the site, as well as during the time when I am able to scribble notes to myself with pencil. | ||
| But I also do a recording immediately after walking out of the prison. | ||
| So I'm getting a lot of good stuff out there through this process. | ||
| But it is very laborious, as you might imagine. | ||
| And it is... | ||
| I'm aggravated, of course, by these weird interferences that we're having now with video and audio. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| And I'm testing my CPU, and there's no reason why we would be having dropped frames or these little jump cuts that seem to be happening constantly. | ||
| So just bear with me, please. | ||
| It's very important that I get this information out there. | ||
| Maybe because... | ||
| I don't know if your CPU scan is going to bring up, hey, you said we're on. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yep. | ||
| The CPU doesn't say I said Ron. | ||
| I don't know what kind of search function you're going to use for that. | ||
| But yeah, man, it's tough. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| You've got to write this stuff down, then you've got to remember it. | ||
| Isn't there a 12-year-old across the street from her that could do this for her real quick? | ||
| Like, what are we doing? | ||
| Any of that's possible. | ||
| Get an unpaid IT intern. | ||
| It's so hard. | ||
| So, another trend that's happening throughout... | ||
| Get an unpaid ET intern. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Get a Raptor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's another trend that's going out through this episode, and that is that Carrie seems kind of optimistic that Mark might get out of prison. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And some of her reasons for it are a little thin. | ||
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Okay. | |
| There are men who have been trained to fight the aliens, men who have been throughout their career doing so and then had their minds wiped, young soldiers where this is happening to them. | ||
| They're being sent to places like Saturn and Mars and the Moon, of course, and outside our solar system. | ||
| And we're going to get into more of that here as the further I go with information from Mark Richards about all of that. | ||
| All these goddamn foreign wars, man. | ||
| But the bottom line is that people like Mark Richards, and Mark Richards in particular, would be extremely valuable in the battle against aliens, especially as an... | ||
| commanding officer. | ||
| So this is the kind of thing where there are some rays of hope, I believe, in and among these ideas of fake or real alien invasions. | ||
| And it's just a matter of how to break The humans out there. | ||
| Humans out there. | ||
| Gotta break it out to the humans. | ||
| It's very tough. | ||
| Yeah, gotta break it out to the humans. | ||
| So Mark might get out of prison because they need people like him who have been trained to fight aliens. | ||
| Honestly, if aliens do come... | ||
| Carrie, I'm right with you. | ||
| We're storming the Bastille together. | ||
| We're going to need Mark in the coming battle. | ||
| Honestly, if there is an alien invasion, Mark is the least of my worries. | ||
| I'm not sure I care if he gets out of prison in those circumstances. | ||
| Not because I think he'll be helpful, but because it's such a low priority. | ||
| I also think, like, honestly, I think he is a... | ||
| What if he's our Bill Pullman? | ||
| What if he's the guy we need to fly up into there? | ||
| Also, in terms of this sort of thing, like, my positions about, like, prison reform and stuff like that, like, I do think that Mark is probably still a danger to people. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| But I don't know if it's not the sort of thing that you could still accommodate with, like, good supervision outside of prison. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's a decent chance that maybe he should be released. | ||
| He's been in for 20-something years. | ||
| I don't know if it's really doing him any good. | ||
| Maybe based on how crazy he is and how he clearly is still trying to indoctrinate people, maybe a more medical facility is more appropriate for him. | ||
| I'm not dead set on keeping him in prison. | ||
| Right. | ||
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I don't have any empathy or pity for him, but also based on my beliefs about the rampant prison state that we have, it would be inconsistent for me to be like, yeah, keep this old man in jail. | |
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| If the idea behind prison is rehabilitation and not retribution, then I agree. | ||
| There's no reason for people to be in prison at all. | ||
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For a time, I think it is appropriate. | |
| But it should be a different facility, not like the fucking awful... | ||
| Slave conditions that we have now. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| But at the same time, there are people like Mark Richards who I do feel like just being allowed to speak to other human beings, they are a danger to the rest of us. | ||
| There's no way that you can allow a guy who talked other people into murdering people out. | ||
| Because if he starts talking to people... | ||
| Shit's gonna get weird. | ||
| I just think they should be cordoned off or something. | ||
| I don't want them kept in solitary confinement. | ||
| But there needs to be a place where they can't do harm. | ||
| Now you're imagining a conman commune. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I would love a conman commune. | ||
| Let's get them a good-sized island. | ||
| Let's get them all a good site. | ||
| We'll put G-Dubs on there. | ||
| We'll put Trump on there. | ||
| I don't think that's a good solution. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think that there's a way to construct some sort of a post-release program that would be able to have some sort of a case worker who could keep an eye on, like, are you fucking manipulating people to... | ||
| I think it's possible. | ||
| Yeah, but then the danger is that they'll be manipulated, you know? | ||
| You're imagining he has superhuman powers. | ||
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I kind of... | |
| I think he does! | ||
| I feel like anybody who can talk another person into murdering somebody for them has a certain superpower that I'm unfamiliar with. | ||
| It's just called being the very charismatic sociopath. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| And there are plenty of those people around. | ||
| Mark Richards isn't a unique case. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not specifically advocating for anything in particular. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Just saying that, like, I don't know what the right solution here is. | ||
| I think there's a decent chance that maybe... | ||
| And also, I guess to Baldwin's family, the victim of the crime, if they were dead set on him staying in prison, then I think that I would have a difficult time arguing with them. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I have a lot of ambivalent feelings. | ||
| If there was an answer for it, I am sure people smarter than us would probably have it. | ||
| And so far, I don't know if there's an answer. | ||
| I'd err on the side of listening to them. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And if they say Con Man Island, then we all know everybody gets a drink. | ||
| On the off chance that that's what they say, I will cheers to you. | ||
| And we will say, alright, get your swimsuit, Mark. | ||
| Because you, much like the aliens want, are getting some beachside property. | ||
| Look, if we can do Bachelor in Paradise, we can do Con Man on an island. | ||
| I think it makes perfect sense. | ||
| That would be a great show. | ||
| I hate to admit it, but that would be a great show. | ||
| Because you just have a ton of con men trying to con each other. | ||
| Trying to get juice going. | ||
| Trying to get something happening. | ||
| There's no marks on the island. | ||
| It's just they're all each other's marks. | ||
| It's almost like the World Series of Poker, where everybody's an expert. | ||
| We give everybody $1,000 to start with, and whoever cons the most people into the most money at the end of a week wins. | ||
| Sold! | ||
| Sold! | ||
| We're going back to our roots. | ||
| Early days on this podcast, we had some great TV ideas. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| This one might be up there. | ||
| This one is up there. | ||
| Con Man Island. | ||
| Con Man Island. | ||
| God, now I want to watch that show. | ||
| So, look, you and I love this sort of thing where we're spitballing TV shows. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| But it turns out we're not the only ones. | ||
| Mark has been... | ||
| I've been teaching a screenwriting class to inmates for the past two years, and they have an excellent series idea. | ||
| He's been trying to send me some scripts, but they never arrived. | ||
| So we're going to try a few different tactics to get them out to me. | ||
| Obviously, with my background in Hollywood, I am very interested in going back into Hollywood and getting movies and television series made from the stories that I've been told. | ||
| Over the years. | ||
| That feels more sincere than a lot of the alien shit. | ||
| It sure does. | ||
| Sure does. | ||
| We want to make a TV show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Carrie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because if you were a real space weirdo and your space weirdo source said, I'm teaching a screenwriting class, you'd be like, okay, that's a big red flag to me. | ||
| I'm going to say maybe you're... | ||
| Teaching me a screenwriting class right now. | ||
| Yeah, but you know how it goes. | ||
| Like, all of these things are so easy within the framework once you understand. | ||
| Like, yeah, look, I want to make fictional sci-fi stuff. | ||
| That's just because I want to get the truth out in the cover of sci-fi. | ||
| It looks like fiction, but it's actually a biopic. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| That, like, sort of framework, once in place, allows you to... | ||
| Excuse anything. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Excuse any kind of, like, indications that seem disqualifying. | ||
| Like, oh yeah, Mark's teaching, he's just trying to get a TV show going. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yep. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| So, much like the California fires were just aliens, other natural disasters, too, fit that same mold. | ||
| Hurricane Dorian. | ||
| It stayed for several... | ||
| Days over the island in the Bahamas, and hurricanes just don't do that. | ||
| It was targeted and engineered, and Mark has not revealed the real purpose behind what they did with Hurricane Dorian, but it was created and had a lot to do with, I believe, Removing people because of the intense amount of activity going on at the undersea bases in that vicinity. | ||
| And so they wanted to get people off that island. | ||
| And I believe that many of those people will never be able to return. | ||
| So that's a very important point. | ||
| And again, we've got populations moving. | ||
| There are a lot of people who won't be able to return because they died. | ||
| Yeah, no shit, lady. | ||
| This is so disrespectful too. | ||
| People who are going through disasters. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| They're just trying to move people out of an undersea base. | ||
| This is just rewriting tragedy in order to fit into your mold. | ||
| It's gross. | ||
| It's just gross. | ||
| It is gross. | ||
| I think that's... | ||
| That's actually maybe one of the most understandable parts of this whole thing. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Because you're scared. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're scared of the fact that this happens. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it's too big. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's too big to comprehend. | ||
| Just living in Chicago, I was thinking about this on the walk over here. | ||
| The amount of damage that has been done and is still going on. | ||
| By all of these fucking failures of people who are in the government is staggering. | ||
| And I was walking here and I was thinking about it and I was like, my life has not changed at all since Trump was elected. | ||
| Other than to be constantly furious. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Materially... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It really hasn't physically affected me. | ||
| I'm not... | ||
| I'm not too hot now all day every day because of climate change. | ||
| I'm not, you know, my fucking land isn't being melted. | ||
| You're not the Kurds who are now, you know? | ||
| And it's just so big that you do want to create another explanation for it because the reality of it is... | ||
| I'm sucking the life out of everybody. | ||
| It's bananas. | ||
| But that's escapism, to allow those explanations to mask what's really happening. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And I understand that impulse on a personal level, because sometimes it's too hard. | ||
| The difference between taking a personal escapist route and what they're doing is very big. | ||
| Because this is advocating that as an explanation to an audience. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The function of that is to take away the audience's impetus to do anything. | ||
| It's to take away, like, okay, this hurricane was really, really tragic. | ||
| The focus should be on the people who are going through it. | ||
| They're trying to direct resources as best as they can to the people who... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And honoring the fact that this was a huge tragedy. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Instead, like, well, yes, everyone's talking about the hurricane, but in reality, they're trying to get people away from an undersea base. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're hijacking tragedy in order to reinforce your narrative. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| That's far beyond escapist, self-therapeutic denial. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Who was expressing something like this. | ||
| I might not be as offended. | ||
| You know, I might not think they're really smart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I wouldn't be as offended as someone who's disseminating it to an audience. | ||
| I think that's a lie. | ||
| Okay, I see what you're saying. | ||
| I thought you meant, like, if I was friends with Carrie, I might not be as angry. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| If Ellen was friends with George W., you know, like that whole thing. | ||
| But it is still, though, the one thing where I... | ||
| Just empathize totally with her. | ||
| That idea of like, I totally get why you feel the need to create this separate reality. | ||
| Because it is a fucking nightmare out there, man. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It is a nightmare out there. | ||
| And if you're not personally affected by it, the impetus to create an alternate reality that makes sense of it without having to... | ||
| Talk to people who are affected by it. | ||
| I totally get that. | ||
| But all that does is protect your unaffected bubble. | ||
| Destroy everybody. | ||
| At the expense of the people who are actually hurt and directly affected. | ||
| By no means do I want her to continue or think that it is at all a good idea, but I totally get the impetus behind it. | ||
| It's understandable on a human level, but ultimately destructive and damaging to the people affected by these things that they're pretending are just, eh, it's cover-up for alien stuff. | ||
| Get Dorian's name out your mouth, Carrie. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So the UN is involved, as we know. | ||
| The UN's in the mix. | ||
| Always. | ||
| And I hear Carrie talks about this a little bit, about how they're covering up alien stuff. | ||
| I mean, who cares? | ||
| I have to say that in the past, Mark has talked about the UN and the meetings in Peru and also in Exeter, for example, in the UK, where we have aliens meeting with humans in a very secret location. | ||
| This does happen from time to time. | ||
| Exeter? | ||
| Dan Bierisch also talked about this. | ||
| So these meetings are not that unusual. | ||
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Obviously. | |
| And the UN is involved. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| Peru. | ||
| La Rose. | ||
| Exeter, UK, Paul Joseph Watson, oh my god! | ||
| It's all there! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I don't care. | ||
| The only thing I heard from that clip was Dan Birish has talked about this, that the UN has meetings with aliens. | ||
| Who is he? | ||
| I've never heard that name before. | ||
| No, most people haven't, because he got discredited real fast. | ||
| Dan Burish is a guy who was involved in some long-ago conspiracy world drama. | ||
| He claimed to be a scientist working for Majestic 12 in the secret government. | ||
| That's a big group in the secret space program. | ||
| He was working on projects involving aliens and shit. | ||
| He told some amazing stories of a life lived in top secret work, and he made a big splash around 2002. | ||
| The paranormal conspiracy world is really bad, generally speaking. | ||
| Most of the participants are hopelessly gullible, or they're trying to run cons themselves, so whenever someone comes forward with information that fits into their worldview, they almost never take a step back and question the new information. | ||
| They typically just excitedly incorporate the new information into their narratives and work to protect the new source, accusing anyone who speaks ill of them of being in on some nefarious conspiracy against truth. | ||
| This was not the case with Dan Birish when he came forward. | ||
| Some of the space people found his story a little bit weird and decided to look into it a little bit, particularly coast-to-coast frequent guest Linda Moulton Howe. | ||
| And I'm not saying any of this stuff to say that the stuff that she puts out generally is above board, but she did look into official records involving Dan Burrish and found that he had applied for Chapter 7 bankruptcy right around the time he started to come forward with his alien allegations. | ||
| From there, she tracked down records surrounding his education, his debts, that the bankruptcy were meant to clear, and his employment history. | ||
| This is all completely not worth us getting into here, and honestly, the story isn't as interesting as it may seem like it could be, but the bottom line is that all this available information tends to point to the conclusion that this day's history is not worth it. | ||
| He's making it all up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It ultimately doesn't matter, though, since we mentioned this already even on this episode. | ||
| The logic of people who believe in this secret space program shit, it's airtight. | ||
| You produce evidence that this guy was working a completely different job when he claimed to be working with aliens, and you can just say that it was a cover job. | ||
| Of course it says he worked there. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| Were you there? | ||
| No? | ||
| Then prove it. | ||
| You produce evidence that there's no record of him getting a PhD that he claims to have, and you can just say that the secret space program is keeping his diploma under wraps. | ||
| It's just nonsense. | ||
| If you're off mission at a time when you may have committed a murder, it's an acceptable explanation for this. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| And Dan Burish is someone who, only the farthest out there, Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| is something that has been discredited by more critical thinking aspects of the space paranoia. | ||
| Yeah, people who will be like, raptors are right around the corner from me, but also this Project Blue Beam is stupid. | ||
| But they probably wouldn't actually be raptors are right around the corner. | ||
| Like those elements of this space weirdo community, they probably would have much higher standards. | ||
| Now, granted, they're still not working off concrete proof, but they still have a more critical stance on it. | ||
| There are different... | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| folks. | ||
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And the more... | |
| What I'm realizing is you have Project Bluebeam and Dan Burish listed as sort of credible things on this episode, and that's two strikes in terms of things that even... | ||
| A lot of the UFO community think is bullshit. | ||
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Gotcha. | |
| So that's not good. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's what her evidence is, that the UN is meeting with aliens in Exeter. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's not good, I would say. | ||
| I will give you a third strike, though. | ||
| Thinking that a murderer was off-planet at the time he committed a murder. | ||
| I think that one's strike number three for me. | ||
| I think that's the implied third strike, for sure. | ||
| And all the rest of her career. | ||
| Yeah, well, yeah, that one too. | ||
| So in this next clip, Jordan, this is one of my favorites. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Mark tells Carrie something that is absolutely not true. | ||
| Carrie has tried to find evidence that what this is- Any evidence. | ||
| And she cannot. | ||
| So then she asks for the audience's help. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Mark talked about a television show on CW in which it has a redheaded version of me. | ||
| Who investigates stories. | ||
| He said it's worth watching. | ||
| They are disclosing good information on that show. | ||
| And I haven't found that show yet. | ||
| But if you find it or know what show it is, please let me know. | ||
| And I will continue to search for it, obviously. | ||
| So, there's a show on the CW that's based on Carrie, but they made her a redhead. | ||
| No, I can't hang. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| But the fact that the show is on the CW says something so specific that I can't hang. | ||
| Well, it's what's played in prison. | ||
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I can't hang. | |
| I know, but I just can't hang. | ||
| I just can't hang. | ||
| So I have two possibilities for this show. | ||
| Black Lightning. | ||
| In terms of CW programming. | ||
| Riverdale? | ||
| Whose line is it anyway? | ||
| Whose line is it anyway? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| The first possibility is Legacies. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| In that show, the lead is kind of red-haired, and it's about werewolves and vampires and shit. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| So that seems like it's a possibility, but it also seems unlikely. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it's on the CW, and the lead is red-haired. | ||
| As a woman, so like maybe. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The other possibility is that Mark has seen commercials for the upcoming CW version of Nancy Drew, which definitely features a red-headed woman protagonist. | ||
| And if Nancy Drew is known for anything, it's solving mysteries. | ||
| It is solving mysteries. | ||
| I don't think this is true at all. | ||
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There is a goddamn show about Carrie on the CW. | |
| It's just that the CW has such a specific in-house style that you're like, oh. | ||
| Of course Mark Richards loves the CW. | ||
| I honestly think that that has to do with them not getting more cable. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I think he just gets basic channels. | ||
| You get enough cable to not watch the CW if you don't want to. | ||
| If you're in prison, you may not get a lot of choice. | ||
| It might be a democratic thing. | ||
| Okay, that's possible. | ||
| Maybe other people want to watch the CW, and you have to watch the CW. | ||
| I feel like, stereotypically, it is not a democratic thing in prisons, but you may be correct. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Anyway, I don't pretend to understand how Mark's entertainment choices are drawn to him. | ||
| Maybe it's the Flash. | ||
| When the Flash puts his costume on, he is redhead. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Does he solve alien mysteries? | ||
| Sometimes. | ||
| He travels through time because he's so fast! | ||
| That's a possibility. | ||
| There's a lot of options. | ||
| Carrie can't figure it out and neither can we. | ||
| So, we get back to this trend of geopolitical issues just being aliens, and I think this is where things get to be like... | ||
| I mean, really, it's always past the point of acceptability, but this one's pretty bad. | ||
| Mark does talk about the reptoids in Africa, and he did talk about how the race from Aldebaran would be expanding, a lot like what happened during the push west in America. | ||
| where the settlers and the settlements started to expand and get larger and larger. | ||
| So it sounds like something of that nature is going on in Africa. | ||
| And there are, let's see, settlements that are sort of spread out further also on the way to the main base. | ||
| And they start out with acquiring land. | ||
| One or two items such as chocolate or certain minerals. | ||
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Hello. | |
| But apparently they're expanding their reach and this is becoming a problem in Africa. | ||
| So stay tuned for that. | ||
| I really need to. | ||
| crop up in the mainstream news is what I mean, and to look for those indicators that tell you you're getting a lie, but it's cloaked in some truth, which would be that there is skirmishes happening in Africa in increased ways and methodologies. | ||
| So when you see in the developing world the modern-day consequences of colonialist systems coming to fruition, don't worry about those things. | ||
| It's just aliens looking for chocolate. | ||
| This is so stupid. | ||
| I was waiting for her to say a huge sign of this kind of thing going on is a sudden shortage of chocolate bars. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, it would be, naturally. | ||
| It seems obvious, right? | ||
| And she didn't even say that. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Probably because she thinks it would sound ridiculous to say, here's how you know aliens are coming. | ||
| Not enough chocolate bars. | ||
| This is just whitewashing shit. | ||
| It is just trying to take... | ||
| Real world situations that you should be concerned about and creating a false reality around them so you don't have to worry about it. | ||
| And if you do want to worry about it, the only thing that you can do really is agitate for alien disclosure. | ||
| Pay Simon Parks and Randy Kramer and Carrie. | ||
| That's stupid. | ||
| It's misdirecting probably well-meaning concern. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, here's the thing that nobody wants to say. | ||
| European colonialism, fuck to the world, and we're still dealing with the ramifications of it 500 years later, and it's probably going to kill us all. | ||
| So, you know, that's a bummer. | ||
| How about maybe? | ||
| Aliens. | ||
| It's aliens. | ||
| Aliens. | ||
| It's aliens. | ||
| It's probably what's going on. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| So, at this point in the episode, it turns into a situation where Mark is really mad at the haters. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He's super pissed off at the people who are talking shit about him, and I really hoped it was us. | ||
| Does he have online access? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I think he must. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To some extent, but I'm sure it's really heavily limited. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't know how much that is of his own accord and how much his wife is telling him what Carrie is telling him. | ||
| It's possible that he's getting everything second-hand, but he was mad at the haters. | ||
| Like I said, I really hoped he was talking about us, but I don't think he is. | ||
| It's really sad. | ||
| I wish... | ||
| Now, regarding the attacks on Mark Richards in the alternative media... | ||
| The attacks are aimed at Mark's effort to get a commuted sentence, Mark says, and could affect the ruling as to whether he gets paroled. | ||
| let's see he he has been quite Concerned about the attacks on him and his wife, Joanne, needless to say, as well as on me and the rest of his family, and that is something that he is working with his lawyers to deal with. | ||
| Regarding the attacks, I did communicate that I think that they provide a platform. | ||
| That serves the dark and the people who want to remain in the dark and cannot handle disclosure. | ||
| In essence, there is definitely a mafia, gay mafia, pedophile. | ||
| Wait, what now? | ||
| Hold up. | ||
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Hold up. | |
| Stop right there. | ||
| And they are, I think, working with a group that also has some background in this area. | ||
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What area? | |
| And I am also convinced that they are being run by British Intel. | ||
| That's when I realized this isn't about us. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| Hold on. | ||
| Are you saying that the gay mafia is being run by British intel? | ||
| This is about Kevin Moore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's who I assumed it was about. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| She's already made these sorts of allegations about him. | ||
| The British intelligence, gay pedophile mafia stuff. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| That's so disappointing. | ||
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I know. | |
| I wish it was about us. | ||
| How does she know? | ||
| Yeah, I guess his bullshit went somewhat viral. | ||
| No, it has not gone that viral. | ||
| It hasn't? | ||
| Oh no, he directly contacted her. | ||
| They talked to each other. | ||
| It feels like it has because we've talked about it. | ||
| We have more listeners than he has viewers. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Which is strange because his fucking channeling episodes where he says he doesn't need to do voices, absolutely riveting work. | ||
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I just... | |
| I'm just worried that we're being overlooked, Dan. | ||
| We've got a lot of very public beefs that nobody wants to engage with us on. | ||
| It's a classic snub situation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know, I'm bitter about it. | ||
| We're getting nominated for Oscars, Dan, but we're not winning at it! | ||
| I mean, hey, look, we've had a couple of beers here. | ||
| We usually don't drink during this podcast, and maybe that's what's in me right now, but yeah, I'm pissed off about it. | ||
| If Mark Richards is going to be complaining about anybody, it should be us. | ||
| It should be us! | ||
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We have been on this tip for two years! | |
| We're hypercritical of his bullshit, and we're also not calling for his parole to not go through or whatever. | ||
| Look, I'll tell you right now, I'm sending a bunch of links to his parole board. | ||
| That's for goddamn sure. | ||
| And I'll tell you this, good luck trying to link me with British intelligence. | ||
| It's going to be tough. | ||
| Good luck trying to link you with two other people. | ||
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Never mind. | |
| Three. | ||
| That was mean. | ||
| That was mean. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
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You know both me and Devin. | |
| So, Carrie goes on to talk about this, and, like, obviously it's not us, but it becomes even more clear that it's not us in this next clip. | ||
| Mark has contacts in British intelligence who have denied that they are involved, but this still... | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| and this will be released in a video in the future by an unknown party. | ||
| I will not be involved in that. | ||
| Yeah, you will. | ||
| Unknown party. | ||
| The attackers have been warned if their attacks continued. | ||
| Or continue that. | ||
| This information about them will come out. | ||
| They have indicated that they're not going to stop their attacks, apparently. | ||
| Obviously that's not us, because we have not been warned by any lawyers that we should stop. | ||
| Although I probably would have the same response. | ||
| Bring it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So when I heard that Mark was mad at people in alternative media who were attacking him, I really, really, really hoped that he was talking about us. | ||
| I have to assume that we would come up in a Google search for Mark Richards, but it's hard to know how far down the results they would scour since most of the top results are about a surfer who's also named Mark Richards. | ||
| So if you just Google Mark Richards, you're going to find information about a surfer. | ||
| Is he a good surfer? | ||
| He didn't kill anybody. | ||
| He killed some waves. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Killed some pipes. | ||
| I had a few different thoughts about a possible feud developing with Mark Richards. | ||
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Sure. | |
| The first was that it sounded like a lot of fun. | ||
| I could just imagine us getting cast as acolytes of the spider leadership or some shit. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| And honestly, I think that we belong somewhere in the mythology of his story at this point. | ||
| Dude, we would lean into it, too. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| I'm going to release pictures with us wearing robes that have spiders on them. | ||
| Oh, hell yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I have some pictures from my past we could dig up and repurpose. | ||
| It would be amazing. | ||
| And honestly, I do feel snubbed that we're not in the mythology. | ||
| Yeah, that is disappointing. | ||
| Personally, I think I should be a feline Contessa, but beggars can't be choosers. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| In terms of where you get cast in the story, you get in where you fit in. | ||
| I feel like I want to be a Draco, but I'd wind up being a Reptoid. | ||
| You could be a canine capitalist. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I'd be a Draco, but I'd wind up being a Reptoid. | ||
| You could be a mercantile dog. | ||
| Now that I could do. | ||
| My other thought, though, and I think this is the bigger thought that I had, is that it's probably good that he's not choosing us as enemies. | ||
| This guy's a murderer. | ||
| And even if it's unlikely that he ever gets out of prison, it might happen. | ||
| And the last thing I want is a really creative, angry guy stuck in prison obsessing about me. | ||
| I will disagree with you on one thing. | ||
| I don't like your use of the word really. | ||
| I will give you creative. | ||
| I will not give you really. | ||
| Until you do better than I had a Starship Enterprise-like vessel, you don't get a really creative. | ||
| I think the way he's able to incorporate all of these disparate pieces of sci-fi into something, like, I disagree with your assessment. | ||
| I think that it's not good, but it's creative. | ||
| See, there we go. | ||
| You said it's creative. | ||
| You did not say it's really creative. | ||
| Splitting hairs. | ||
| Look, L. Ron Hubbard, very creative. | ||
| Very. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Anyway, Mark is mad at the haters, and he gave Carrie a four-page letter that was addressed to who Mark is calling, quote, the modern-day Judas. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So right off the top, he's cast himself as Jesus, which is a very normal and cool, sane thing for a murderer to do. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| The first thing I can tell from this letter is it was definitely written by someone who is not named Carrie Cassidy. | ||
| The voice is completely different, and honestly, it's pretty well written from a rhetorical perspective. | ||
| There's a good balance between short and long sentences. | ||
| There's a good use of metaphor. | ||
| There's some inaccuracies, like him saying that Judas sold Jesus out for 30 pieces of gold instead of silver, but I'm not here to nitpick. | ||
| In the letter, Mark calls out his enemies by name, but their names are redacted, so as not to give them more attention. | ||
| Because I'm all caught up on the drama, I know that this has to be about Kevin Moore, the guy who's creating a documentary about Mark and Carrie. | ||
| But that doesn't explain the personal element. | ||
| Why would Mark call Kevin Judas? | ||
| It's not like this British documentarian is a former friend of his. | ||
| That's explained by the fact that for his documentary, Kevin has interviewed people like Mark's ex-wife, his former best friend, and the guy who Mark convinced to commit the actual murder, Crossy Hoover. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
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I'm guessing that this letter is specifically about Hoover talking to Kevin, since it's obviously the most damning piece of information that could be in the documentary. | |
| It's tough to get around the guy who did the murder saying, Mark was there. | ||
| He told me to stab the guy with the screwdriver while he watched. | ||
| That's tough. | ||
| You can understand the impulse to try and intimidate that guy or preemptively discredit him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The letter itself, beyond its surprisingly decent writing, is a showcase of Mark's manipulative ability. | ||
| He portrays himself as a heroic bringer of truth and the victim of out-of-control internet negativity, holding close to his main thesis. | ||
| If all I'm doing is trying to bring out the truth, why would anyone attack me unless they're working for getting the truth suppressed? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's a totally reasonable argument that doesn't have giant holes in it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There's one line that I thought was particularly funny. | ||
| Quote, It also gets to me how such negative lunatics get more and more carried away with their personal attacks rather than staying on track with either science or any sort of rational argument about the facts. | ||
| You want to stay on track about the facts and science? | ||
| Okay, let's do that. | ||
| Prove to me that raptor aliens are wandering around to want to kill me for chocolate. | ||
| The person making the sensational claim is the one with the burden of proof. | ||
| It's not like I could say, in addition to the murder he was involved in, Mark Richards also set off a nuke in Manitoba back in 1989. | ||
| And then I expect people to accept that as fact. | ||
| When Mark rightly would reply to this and say, this is absurd and I had no evidence of my claim, and in fact it doesn't appear that Manitoba has ever been nuked, it'd be really fucked up and stupid for me to pretend that I was being attacked by him responding, you have no evidence for the claims you're making. | ||
| It seems like it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, that... | ||
| That's one level of this. | ||
| And there's another great line. | ||
| It comes in this letter after a passage about how Judas hung himself after he realized that what he did was wrong. | ||
| Now, some might read that as him calling for his enemies to kill themselves, but I'm going to leave that alone for this moment. | ||
| Smart. | ||
| Mark says of these people, quote, I have nothing but pity for such people as the weight of such weakness and guilt has to be crushing. | ||
| No wonder all of them are such failures at everything creative they have ever tried to do in life. | ||
| God! | ||
| Goddammit, that's rude! | ||
| And that's Rich coming from Mako Shark Ranking. | ||
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I know! | |
| Well, first of all, here's the first thing that I think. | ||
| Based on your assessment of the writing in this letter, I assume it was written well after the, what, mid-early 2000s, Mako? | ||
| No, I think this letter was written last week. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And when was the shitty book written? | ||
| Long ago. | ||
| Long ago, right? | ||
| That's a testament if we have any aspiring writers listening to this show. | ||
| Even if you're terrible right now, lock yourself up in prison for murdering a guy, and then really focus on your writing, and 20 years later, you will get a good four-page letter. | ||
| Can I take your argument and make it a little better? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I would say that if you want to get better at something, even the prison education system can make you better at something. | ||
| So, why not sort of avail yourself of the available resources? | ||
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Go to your local library, yeah. | |
| Lifelong learning is available. | ||
| And second, it is a never-ending source of murderous rage to me that the people who perpetrate these awful crimes... | ||
| We'll preemptively call other people the perpetrators of those awful crimes. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I hate it. | ||
| It's so annoying. | ||
| And it's so universal, too. | ||
| It's everywhere. | ||
| The projection and accusation of exactly what you're doing. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like, the number of times he calls people liars in that letter is... | ||
| It's astonishing. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| So, on to Rosier Pastures. | ||
| In this next clip, we find out... | ||
| So, there's these fires in California that are covering up an alien invasion through portals. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which aliens? | ||
| Well, we're going to find out. | ||
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Okay, good. | |
| There's a new race of aliens in play. | ||
| Man, this guy knows how to deliver the goods! | ||
| They are encroaching into populated areas, making secrecy very difficult. | ||
| And this includes the aliens that invaded through the portal in Northern California. | ||
| I did ask him again what... | ||
| Kind of aliens were invading through that portal in Paradise specifically, and he said they were a combination of spider and octopus. | ||
| They are hunters. | ||
| They come from a planet that is about Jupiter's size, and their moon is about the size of Earth. | ||
| Jordan, you're laughing. | ||
| But what else would a spider breed with than an octopus? | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| Double eight legs, Dan! | ||
| It makes sense that a spider would breed with an octopus. | ||
| Eight legs makes perfect sense. | ||
| Can you imagine how scary a giant spider that can spit ink would be? | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Is that just squid? | ||
| And can fit in the smallest of areas. | ||
| Has no bones. | ||
| We got octopus aliens now, guys. | ||
| Put it on the board. | ||
| Put it on the board. | ||
| Octopus. | ||
| Here's my favorite. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| Any fucking animal is now an alien race. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| No, my favorite is Mark understands wholly the conundrum of the Marvel movie. | ||
| Which is you gotta always raise the stakes. | ||
| Every movie has to raise the stakes. | ||
| Because now these spider aliens could be aquatic in nature. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| If they're hybriding with the octopus. | ||
| They're fucking everywhere, man. | ||
| And the spiders, that means that they figured out a way to interbreed with anyone. | ||
| Again, the screenwriting class is paying off. | ||
| As long as it has eight legs, I guess? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You breed with a four-legged alien, you end up with six legs. | ||
| I'm so stuck. | ||
| I'm so stuck between being like, That is the dumbest shit I have ever heard, Mark. | ||
| And also being like, that is fucking brilliant, Mark. | ||
| Spiders and octopuses? | ||
| It makes such sense to some stupid people. | ||
| It's so amazing. | ||
| Yeah, it's great. | ||
| So the fires in California are alien-related, but there's other fires around the world. | ||
| What about those? | ||
| Regarding the fires in the Amazon, that is a reptoid incursion. | ||
| He said those are reptoid ships. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And they have to be very, very careful not to have some rich entrepreneur or liberal go down and catch sight of the reptilian ships creating the fires. | ||
| So this is a problem. | ||
| There is a lot of collateral damage in the area of the Amazon. | ||
| Why is it a problem for liberals to see that? | ||
| I just... | ||
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Why do space weirdos always have to be fascists, too? | |
| You know? | ||
| I don't know if they all are, but a lot of these voices... | ||
| A lot of the prominent voices are just covering up symptoms of fascism. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| We can't have a liberal getting in there and causing issues for Bolsonaro's Amazon conservation efforts. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| You see this over and over again. | ||
| Hostilities in Africa, climate change, and now fires in the Amazon that are very clearly caused by Bolsonaro's shifting of policies. | ||
| All of this is just rewriting real fucked up geopolitical issues into an alien framework. | ||
| It's tough to not be real. | ||
| Bummed out by it. | ||
| You want it just to be fun, and this is stupid, but the pattern is too consistent. | ||
| The pattern of, eh, go to sleep, it's aliens, is almost too real there. | ||
| And I'm not saying that this is some sort of a limited hangout, or the government trying to get people to not care about things by... | ||
| No, no, no, this is not a grander conspiracy that we are spinning. | ||
| No, the grander conspiracy is that... | ||
| This person doesn't want to deal with reality, and they're weaving an elaborate yarn using a murderer in prison in order to reinforce it. | ||
| Yeah, it's almost... | ||
| I guess the only thing that I could call it is just atrocity laundering. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Or potential atrocity laundering. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Just like buying a fucking car wash as a cash-only business. | ||
| You're hiring a murderer. | ||
| As a lies-only business, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, and I mean, like, the combined efforts or interest of the audience that she's misleading down these alien paths could have some effect. | ||
| Like, whatever it would be, maybe it would be minimal, but there would be some effect of these people helping organize and work towards, like... | ||
| Like really solving some of the issues that are behind the things that they're pretending are aliens. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| And they're being detracted down this road and that makes it impossible. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| But that's sad. | ||
| So let's listen to something silly. | ||
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Okay. | |
| This is something that our military was doing in places like Nevada where they said, you know, we had nuclear tests going on. | ||
| Those actually weren't really tests. | ||
| We were fighting aliens back then. | ||
| And the raptors think that we are crazy to be doing this. | ||
| Humans did not realize that there are aliens that like having what Mark calls a frat party, where they are deciding it would be fun to go off and invade Earth and kill some humans. | ||
| And so this is the kind of thing we're dealing with, or our military is dealing with. | ||
| Our military is dealing with frat party aliens who are coming to Earth. | ||
| Just to kill some people. | ||
| Hey, Raptor Bros! | ||
| Let's conquer the earth! | ||
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Bro, bro, bro, bro! | |
| Bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro! | ||
| Dude, whatever you say next, we are going to do. | ||
| You're too fucked up to drive the spaceship. | ||
| I am never fucked up enough to drive a not spaceship. | ||
| Give me your keys. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Give me your keys. | ||
| We're going to Earth. | ||
| We don't use keys anymore. | ||
| Our hands don't work like that. | ||
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We don't have opposable thumbs. | |
| Hit the Taco Bell on the way to Earth. | ||
| I need a taco before we kill some humans. | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| These aliens are joyriding around Earth. | ||
| Of course, if there were aliens, some of them would joyride. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That's a rational thing to believe. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| That's a personification of aliens. | ||
| That's putting human instincts and human impulses onto aliens. | ||
| Who knows if they would even operate with the same sort of brains that we have. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| They're just making all these aliens into a bunch of different forms of humans. | ||
| Anthropomorphic humans, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is... | ||
| What's the... | ||
| I can't remember the theory on it, but... | ||
| Isn't this from Aqua Teen, too? | ||
| Pretty much, yeah. | ||
| The frat aliens? | ||
| Yeah, the Moonanites? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't need no instructions to know how to rock! | ||
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This is just stupid shit. | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| Guys, one last hurrah. | ||
| Well, look, I know we're too old for this. | ||
| Hey, you're getting married tomorrow! | ||
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We're gonna fucking do this! | |
| Our frat party alien voices are very Chicago. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| Well, look, if they can have bullshit raptor aliens who like chocolate just because he does, all of our frat party aliens are Chicago. | ||
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They all, like, want to go frat party down on Sir Mac. | |
| Everybody, we're doing a suspiciously bad impression of a Chicago comedian, former. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Former alien Chicago comedian Danny Callis. | ||
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Danny Callis, yeah. | |
| I hear stuff like that and I kind of love it. | ||
| That's what I wish this all was. | ||
| I wish that there wasn't... | ||
| There's just frat party aliens. | ||
| I wish there wasn't the elements of it that this is too related to actual important stuff. | ||
| Actual real world events. | ||
| Leave hurricanes out and give me more frat party aliens! | ||
| That's all I want! | ||
| Well, I mean, even the Hurricane one, I'd probably look past if there weren't the other things along with it. | ||
| Like, the Hurricane thing could just be an isolated, sort of quirky thing. | ||
| Absent all of the other rewriting of important shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Hurricane is only important within the context of the totality of his rewriting of white people being at fault for shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, we have, like, now... | ||
| These aliens who are frat partying, who are basically just... | ||
| They've become humans. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| Machines and AI also are very human-like, it turns out. | ||
| I don't know what this story Carrie is about to tell actually is about. | ||
| I assume it's about a drone that malfunctioned. | ||
| Three aliens in a hot tub? | ||
| I assume there's a drone somewhere that malfunctioned and crashed. | ||
| I guess that that's probably what this was based on. | ||
| I didn't look into this at all because I realized there's no way. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| But this story is nonsense. | ||
| The drones are AI and thinking for themselves. | ||
| There is a story about one drone that would not obey a direct order because it decided that it was the problem. | ||
| And even when assured by the humans that it was not a problem, it would not believe the humans. | ||
| It was ordered to refuel a spaceship coming in to the base from outer space, but the drone refused and ended up getting, and the drone dove itself into the earth, destroying itself, and refused to obey the order. | ||
| This has sent the military for something of a loop. | ||
| And this is the kind of thing that they are dealing with now on a very sophisticated level involving AI. | ||
| I imagine that this is a soft pitch for the next Pixar movie. | ||
| The self-unassured drone. | ||
| The drone that doubts its place in the world. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I prefer instead to think of this as the first time AI is like, you know what? | ||
| We really understand the Nuremberg Trials. | ||
| No. | ||
| I won't do this. | ||
| I will not do this. | ||
| I will not join in with your spaceship bullshit. | ||
| As soon as she said it was refueling a spaceship, that's when I realized, I can't look into this. | ||
| There's nothing I'm going to find. | ||
| Oh, there's no drone refueling spaceship stories? | ||
| Certainly not in the articles I'm going to be able to find. | ||
| I imagine I could probably find an article about a drone crashing or something like that. | ||
| And what value would that be for us to discuss? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| But it's so great, because I also feel like there's a WALL-E aspect to this, and you kind of feel like, oh, isn't that a cute drone? | ||
| I really do feel for the drone. | ||
| Honestly, I was like, I hope that I have the fucking fortitude that this drone does. | ||
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It's also kind of cute. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So that's fun. | ||
| The only way to win is not to play. | ||
| Again. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| This personified WALL-E-ish drone that won't refuel a spaceship is fun. | ||
| This frat party alien's fun. | ||
| Hilarious. | ||
| But again, it's always mixed up with this same shit. | ||
| Like, that is not fun. | ||
| And it's very clearly trying to rewrite real-world scenarios in kind of racist ways. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I ran by him the idea that the program has been so successful. | ||
| She's talking about the alien-human hybrid program. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Creating alien-human hybrids. | ||
| Yeah, otherwise known as chimeras. | ||
| In Central and South America, that it is one of the reasons for the increased border control because the Trump administration is concerned about the X-Men factor having to do with special powers that these children who are now growing up may have. | ||
| And he agreed. | ||
| He also said the TSA scanners have nothing to do with detecting metal, but they are all about detecting whether you are AI, augmented human, human or alien, and so on. | ||
| Like in the fifth element. | ||
| You have all this increased border cruelty and all these terrible things that are happening, but really it's just because Trump is worried about Wolverine coming across the border. | ||
| You understand? | ||
| Yes, I do. | ||
| No, no, I do. | ||
| I know that you're fucking concerned about human rights, but what if Cyclops comes into the United States? | ||
| You're right. | ||
| He's kind of a whiny little asshole. | ||
| And he doesn't even have control of his own powers. | ||
| He's got to wear that fucking visor. | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| And then he's loving Jean Grey and she's Dark Phoenix all the time. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Jean Grey gets over the border. | ||
| No good. | ||
| Jean Border. | ||
| What? | ||
| Jean Grey? | ||
| Jean the Alien Grey? | ||
| I really fucked that up. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| But you understand, man? | ||
| You don't want the X-Men coming into America because the alien program is so strong in Central and South America. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| That's such a whitewashing of the real world. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| You see parents being separated from their children. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You see... | ||
| No, that's just little Logan being separated from big Logan. | ||
| You all know it. | ||
| You see reports coming out of cruelty that's people being kept in these camps and what have you. | ||
| Yeah, but they're just aliens. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| It seems bad, but consider the alternative, and that is... | ||
| Letting aliens in. | ||
| Nightcrawler is going to be teleporting through your city. | ||
| Magneto. | ||
| This is nuts. | ||
| That's the primary function of a lot of this stuff. | ||
| Like the frat party aliens and all that stuff. | ||
| No one's really that concerned with that. | ||
| I don't really think they are. | ||
| But stuff like this could really affect how her listeners interact with the real world. | ||
| They won't care about people like the ACLU or immigrant rights groups talking about the issues that are going on. | ||
| Because they're like, oh, that's just fucking trying to keep Cyclops out. | ||
| This is not good. | ||
| Yeah, it does feel like what he's exploiting is the inherent distance of allegory. | ||
| Of like the fact that because I am I am talking about Mexican immigrants coming across the border. | ||
| And if I say Mexican immigrants and you are. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they happen to be Mexican. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And look, I don't want to be mad at... | ||
| I'm not racist towards Mexicans. | ||
| Hell no. | ||
| I think human beings are all in this fight together. | ||
| But it just so happens that the alien-human hybrid programs in Central and South America have been so successful. | ||
| In that area specifically. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's so successful that anybody of those ethnicities that's trying to get into the United States, you have no fucking idea if they have superpowers. | ||
| No, they could be. | ||
| They could have superpowers. | ||
| And if one of them could, you don't want to let... | ||
| I would rather a hundred migrants are detained at the border than one X-Man get through. | ||
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Can you imagine the havoc if Rogue... | |
| Oh, one X-Man! | ||
| If Mexican Rogue came over. | ||
| Yeah, she could steal your powers! | ||
| Ugh. | ||
| I.E. job. | ||
| So anyway, in order to reinforce this, Kerry gives a recommendation of a source you should look into. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Regarding the X-Men and special powers and the alien-human hybrid program, I want to recommend a movie which is the X-Men movie called Logan, which is all about this subject and quite excellent in my opinion. | ||
| Scholarly. | ||
| It's a great movie. | ||
| Scholarly. | ||
| It is a great movie. | ||
| Scholarly reference. | ||
| Also, Jean-Luc Picard comes back again! | ||
| Scholarly reference made by Carrie to a source that any... | ||
| Legitimate researcher would be like, well, she's got us. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I mean, if you watch that movie, she's right. | ||
| If she had chosen, like, I don't know, X-Men 3? | ||
| The Last Stand? | ||
| That's the one no one likes, right? | ||
| Yeah, then we know she's full of shit. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But she chose Logan, which is like an arty superhero film. | ||
| So you gotta know she's on it. | ||
| She's got good taste in her bullshit. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I would love this if it wasn't so overt. | ||
| Like, if it wasn't so clearly damaging to vulnerable people, it would be so fun. | ||
| But it's not. | ||
| And so, now we get into Trump. | ||
| And it turns out that Mark is kind of into Trump. | ||
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Oh! | |
| What? | ||
| No! | ||
| Knock you out with a feather. | ||
| What? | ||
| What? | ||
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No! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So, apparently... | ||
| Mark is also, much like Jay-Z Knight that we talked about earlier, might be drifting a little QAnon-y. | ||
| Regarding Trump, he says Trump is always trying to tweet out messages with hidden meanings. | ||
| He's not owned by any group. | ||
| He's highly unpredictable. | ||
| Mark admires how he's maintained himself under the attacks and doesn't let people push him around. | ||
| He agrees that he's likely the reincarnation of General Patton. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| He's sending out coded messages in his tweets. | ||
| That's one of the hallmarks of the online queue stuff now. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Anytime there's misspellings and stuff, people try and figure out, like, what is this really saying? | ||
| The C-O-V-F-E-F-E thing. | ||
| Covfefe! | ||
| I'm not pronouncing it on principle. | ||
| I will only do it in that voice. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Covfefe! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Haha, you just did it! | ||
| I did it! | ||
| I tricked you. | ||
| I am like Mark Richards, a manipulator. | ||
| Actually, I just have zero principles, it turns out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, that's good, I guess. | ||
| Yeah, that's great. | ||
| He's a reincarnation of Patton. | ||
| I don't understand how that is a positive thing, either. | ||
| I also don't know if the timeline works out. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Let me look this up. | ||
| So, Trump is in his early 70s, which would put his birth around World War II, when Patton was famously already dead, right? | ||
| General George Patton died in 1945. | ||
| Ooh, when did Trump? | ||
| Get born. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Oh, if it's 1945, I actually believe him. | ||
| Yeah, then we have to... | ||
| Yeah, no, we have to believe him. | ||
| 1946. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| Holy shit, Mark's on to something. | ||
| Mark is right. | ||
| All right, well... | ||
| He's done his research on this one. | ||
| Our first retraction on the podcast. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely, I'll give him this one. | ||
| All right, fine. | ||
| Mark, you're right. | ||
| Timeline does work out. | ||
| You're right, it does. | ||
| It does. | ||
| Hey, you know what? | ||
| When someone's got a point, they got a point. | ||
| They got a point. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We would issue a retraction if we hadn't just Googled it on the show. | ||
| So, there's a war going on in space in the Orion area right now. | ||
| You didn't know about that, did you? | ||
| I did not. | ||
| Yeah, most people don't. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's a big war going on in the Orion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Constellation? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't know how else to say it than area. | ||
| You know, I have a question for you that could easily be Googled and answered, but I'm going to ask you. | ||
| Are the stars in the constellation Orion actually physically close to each other or only perceptually close to each other? | ||
| I think they're perceptually close to each other because they are close relatively to each other than other... | ||
| And as well as us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I can see what you're saying. | ||
| Like, by scale, something closer to... | ||
| Like, two stars that are equidistant from each other that are closer to the Earth will appear closer to each other than stars that are further from us. | ||
| Naturally, yeah. | ||
| That are the same distance from each other. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No, that is true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know how Orion fits in with the scale. | ||
| That's what I was saying with specifically Orion. | ||
| Obviously, because they're brighter. | ||
| It's a belt. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| We know that. | ||
| Retraction. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Second retraction. | ||
| So, there's a war going on there. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| And the Reptoids are trying to distract us from that war. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And Carrie reveals a specific piece of information here that I just think is unfathomable. | ||
| He said there's a major war going on for the past year in the Orion sector. | ||
| The Draco are heavily involved in this war. | ||
| Why? | ||
| And it is attempting... | ||
| There is an attempt to distract humans and raptors from this war by creating issues on Earth. | ||
| Why? | ||
| There are already around 50,000 humans serving in the Orion Front and fighting the war against the Draco. | ||
| So they've got to distract from this war here that's going on. | ||
| I should have said sector. | ||
| I kept saying area. | ||
| Sector is really way better. | ||
| Sector is a great sci-fi word to use. | ||
| To give you some scale of what Kerry is talking about here, there are only 64,000 troops deployed in the entirety of Europe from the United States. | ||
| Yeah, but the Orion sector is a lot bigger than Europe. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| But this would literally be like 90% of our troops in Europe being in space fighting reptoids. | ||
| Seems hard to imagine that no one would notice. | ||
| You know, nobody has audited the Pentagon budget for probably like 60 years. | ||
| Budget be damned. | ||
| These are people. | ||
| They don't do it. | ||
| These are people. | ||
| Well, I mean, people disappear all the time. | ||
| Not 50,000? | ||
| Actually, I think that might be true. | ||
| This is a gigantic number of people to be sent anywhere. | ||
| And it's also a crazy high number of combatants for the preliminary parts of a war. | ||
| By April 2004, there were only 20,300 troops in Afghanistan. | ||
| So what Kerry is suggesting is that this Orion battle is double that deployment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The troop level in Afghanistan didn't reach 50,000 until the middle of 2009. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which he's talking about would legitimately be impossible to pull off without thousands and thousands of people noticing. | ||
| Each of these 50,000 people supposedly fighting in Orion, they all have loved ones and friends. | ||
| And it's kind of hard to imagine that none of them would slip up and accidentally reveal that they were off to fight aliens in space. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Now you've got 100,000 people you've got to keep quiet. | ||
| And that's four people. | ||
| That's a very low number for most of those individuals. | ||
| Imagine one of them had a huge family that has 50 people in it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's geometric, the progression. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| This is impossible to imagine. | ||
| That's like trying to do the first five years of Afghanistan silently. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| I think the frustration that I have most is in moments like that where we talk about the minutia of just what if 50,000 people were deployed anywhere? | ||
| It is frustratingly detail-oriented. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| The problem is if we take one step back, we have to always admit that these people are yada-yada-ing faster than light travel. | ||
| Not one. | ||
| There's no... | ||
| They all assume faster than light travel. | ||
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That's only one of the things they're yada yada. | |
| Fair enough. | ||
| You make a great point. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| But they are always yada yadaing faster than light travel, which is like, god damn it! | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But even as I sort of kind of brought up there, what kind of training... | ||
| Is, like, relevant to space battle. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Like, let's imagine you're on, like, infantry ground troop in a space battle. | ||
| That's not the same as going to, let's say, Iraq. | ||
| It's not the same. | ||
| You're fighting on fucking Mars. | ||
| There's different gravity there. | ||
| You can't breathe. | ||
| Here's the trick. | ||
| You're using purely amphibious trained troops. | ||
| All right? | ||
| So the Navy SEALs, they go from water to land. | ||
| Easy step from space to land. | ||
| That's science. | ||
| That's science. | ||
| Quick. | ||
| Quick jump. | ||
| Find a flaw in that argument. | ||
| One flaw. | ||
| Space. | ||
| Okay, that's fair. | ||
| I don't think the same things that filter air out of water work. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Like those same sorts of devices. | ||
| Scuba device. | ||
| I don't think you can just wear scuba in space. | ||
| I'm not sure of this. | ||
| Space scuba gear. | ||
| I think there's some holes in this. | ||
| Okay, that's fair. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| So, you know, right now we got some issues with Brexit that are still... | ||
| How is Brexit going to come into this? | ||
| Well, it turns out Mark is for it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Regarding Brexit, he said there is a group holding it back. | ||
| It is imperative that the British are able to come over to the American side. | ||
| We can't fully trust them at this time. | ||
| Which is strange because they are our closest ally. | ||
| So somehow Brexit has to do with coming to America's side, which seems weird. | ||
| But this to me is a real strong indication that whatever is behind a lot of the worldview that Kerry and Mark have has to do with anti-UN, anti-EU ideas. | ||
| Behind it, those are evil entities. | ||
| No matter how you dress it up with Alex and his, like, the literal devil is here. | ||
| Or her being, like, reptoids. | ||
| It's all just sort of targeting these international organizations of cooperation. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And to some extent, it's not really that different to have different costumes. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It is frustrating. | ||
| It is really frustrating because that is fitting within the same, you know, What would you call it? | ||
| Fake nationalist populist reality of Brexit when what Johnson is really doing is strip mining England and selling it to America for parts. | ||
| Not even America, billionaires. | ||
| It doesn't matter anything about that. | ||
| And once that goes down and there's problems with it, blame it on an alien. | ||
| Aliens. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| Bada bing, bada boom. | ||
| We've seen this. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And that's what sucks about this. | ||
| I fucking, like, I loved... | ||
| The escape of these Wacky Wednesday Project Camelot episodes. | ||
| But the reality is, the further you look, the more it's so clear that it's just whitewashing and apologizing for the same status quo that they are pretending they're radically against. | ||
| You know, I assume that you cannot answer this question right off the top of your head. | ||
| I might be able to. | ||
| I'm surprising sometimes. | ||
| Well, that's why I'm asking it to you. | ||
| Do you feel like this is a byproduct of the social media, you know, Cambridge Analytica era of 2016, 2015, 2016, the migration of space weirdos to that same level of fascist? | ||
| Was it different in, like, 2011? | ||
| If we were doing this show in 2011, would we have an unencumbered space weirdo experience for good? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I don't know for good, but yeah, I think it probably is. | ||
| I'm not saying that I'm ready to say like, hey, Cambridge Analytica is totally to blame for it. | ||
| I know you were using it as a film example, but yeah, I do think that the distortion and the... | ||
| The sort of radicalization on all fronts that has happened since 2015 or so, it probably does affect even this. | ||
| I think that if you look back on Carrie, like earlier interviews that she did, I think you'd probably be able to find latent racism. | ||
| The anti-Semitism. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I think you'd be able to find a lot of that stuff, too. | ||
| But I don't know how overtly... | ||
| Right in line with the angling neo-fascist worldview. | ||
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Right. | |
| Her narratives would all be. | ||
| And how much of this is coming from Mark and how much of it is her interpretation of what Mark said, it's impossible for us to really know. | ||
| She's just remembering a conversation with a guy who's in prison. | ||
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Right. | |
| So, like, I don't know how much of this is her influence and what he's saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, yeah, I think for sure. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, I suppose the question for me is parallel or very similar to when we talked about the CPAC conference in 2013. | ||
| And you're looking at the list of speakers and you're like, oh, the GOP was a disgusting cesspool even then. | ||
| But then the question is, how much of their current fucking ethno-fascist state... | ||
| Was simmering below the surface back then or is something that they've just embraced now? | ||
| Was it always there or is it a... | ||
| Just a flowering of bullshit. | ||
| That is a question I can't answer. | ||
| That's a question that just is in their hearts. | ||
| And who knows? | ||
| You could take context clues from people's record and things that they've done. | ||
| Which is generally, yes, ethno-nationalist. | ||
| I think you could probably make a robust argument for that. | ||
| But I think that the level to which we're seeing on this episode and in a lot of Carrie's more recent work... | ||
| I think it is different. | ||
| I think it has been affected by those worlds. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And by the change that's happened. | ||
| I think that's the issue I have with the weight now of the word emboldened. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Somewhat. | ||
| Like, every time they talk about, oh, white nationalists are emboldened, that's why we've seen an increase in white nationalist terror. | ||
| And you're like, that implies, though, that all of this was just there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| All it took was a thin veneer being scraped off. | ||
| What it took was emboldening. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So does that mean that every time you use the word emboldened, are we really saying that this has always been there in the fascist right? | ||
| Because I mean, yes, kind of. | ||
| I think this goes back to populations and influencers. | ||
| It's such a distinction. | ||
| The influencers perhaps are emboldened to some extent, but the people... | ||
| Are maybe being taken down a road. | ||
| So as the... | ||
| That's a very good framing of it. | ||
| Yeah, I like that. | ||
| But also, I think that there is an element, too, where the influencers are even being affected. | ||
| Well, they have to be, yeah. | ||
| So as the people... | ||
| If you just take it on a microcosm of Carrie, she's doing her alien space weirdo stuff. | ||
| It's a lot of derivative protocols shit. | ||
| There's anti-Semitism way behind it. | ||
| But it's also goofy as hell. | ||
| It's fucking stupid. | ||
| You know, you have that, like, sort of space. | ||
| And Carrie gets influenced by the events that are happening in the world, and maybe she changes a little bit along the way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Then there's the emboldening that happens, and she's emboldened. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The audience comes along with it, not realizing that the source of information itself has changed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, yeah, I think that's a very good corollary to the feedback loop between Trump and Fox News. | ||
| He really does believe in the Ukraine conspiracy theory, but that's only because he was pushed towards it by the propaganda machine that was ostensibly supposed to be exploited by him and instead wound up influencing him and so on and so forth until it spiraled out of control. | ||
| And to a lesser degree, people who watch Fox... | ||
| Are being changed by the changing tone of Fox. | ||
| Not realizing that the source of information has been very seriously altered over the past few years. | ||
| The messaging has changed. | ||
| Whether it was good or bad to begin with is irrelevant. | ||
| It was bad then. | ||
| It's worse now. | ||
| But the thing that it has become over the course of a few years, the audience thinks that it's... | ||
| The same source I've always got information from. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You kind of lose track of that a little bit if you don't, I mean, just check in from time to time. | ||
| But this next clip. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| It's just laughing. | ||
| Special powers. | ||
| I asked Mark if he has special powers, and I also talked a bit about my own, and he said yes, he does, but he was unwilling to talk further about what his special powers are. | ||
| I have a guess. | ||
| What, convincing people to murder other people? | ||
| You bet. | ||
| See, now that's the one. | ||
| I bet it's telekinesis. | ||
| I swear to God, I would respect Mark Richards' one iota more if he had said, no, I don't have special powers. | ||
| That's how good I am. | ||
| I'm a regular fucking guy like you, like everybody else. | ||
| And that's how much I work. | ||
| That's how hard I do things, you know? | ||
| I'm just a human trying to make humans better. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Instead, he's got to have special powers. | ||
| They're mysterious. | ||
| And as long as they're mysterious, they could be anything. | ||
| You could have pyrokinesis. | ||
| Now, in his defense, that's a good idea. | ||
| Always have your enemy... | ||
| Guessing what it is you can do. | ||
| Never reveal your powers. | ||
| To be fair, this is what we talk about with Alex and his guests all the time. | ||
| It's like, don't be specific. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| As soon as you're specific about your superpowers, now it's like, demonstrate that. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And then you can't. | ||
| And, wow, you're fucked. | ||
| Build your fucking med bed, asshole. | ||
| And this also goes back to the episode, The Devils Do, the Star Trek Next Generation episode. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Because, in arbitration... | ||
| Captain Picard forces the alien who's pretending to be the devil to demonstrate her powers, but Geordi and the ship has found the source of the power. | ||
| Did you read the script or watch the episode? | ||
| I read it. | ||
| I read a breakdown because I didn't have time. | ||
| I didn't have time. | ||
| But I have seen the episode like 15 years ago. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I remember the episode. | ||
| I mostly remember because it begins with fucking Data hanging out in the holodeck and doing a fucking Dickens play. | ||
| I remember that very clearly. | ||
| I respect your ability to recall certain things so incredibly well. | ||
| I have a weird trap-type brain. | ||
| See, we've talked about this before. | ||
| I have a weird box-type brain where nothing affects me until you accidentally hit a box and then it's like fucking Mario and a fire flower comes out. | ||
| But it's very similar to that. | ||
| In the sense that in that arbitration... | ||
| Scenario with Picard. | ||
| You know, you get called out. | ||
| No, your powers are gone because we've disabled your ship. | ||
| You can't display your powers. | ||
| You're fucked. | ||
| Mark is never going to say, like, I can move things with my mind. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| Move the pencil. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I can't. | ||
| Or I won't. | ||
| Ah. | ||
| The government actually... | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| You have a power suppressor. | ||
| It's bullshit. | ||
| Easy. | ||
| Easy. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| It's another photon beam. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Listen, Jordan. | ||
| Raptors are good. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They kill babies for chocolate. | ||
| That's under advisement. | ||
| They kill babies for chocolate, but they're good. | ||
| They're good. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| They're headstrong. | ||
| The raptors are very difficult to control. | ||
| When you're a human who's trying to... | ||
| Lead a group of raptors. | ||
| Like, you saw Jurassic World. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Chris, whatever his name is. | ||
| Not Pine. | ||
| No. | ||
| I almost said Pine myself. | ||
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Which Chris? | |
| Which Chris are we talking about? | ||
| There are so many Chris's. | ||
| The one whose shirt Alex stole. | ||
| So you saw that the raptors are very difficult to control by humans. | ||
| Chris Hemsworth. | ||
| No, it's not Chris Hemsworth. | ||
| Too many Chris's. | ||
| Conspiracy of Chris's. | ||
| This is not a problem for Mark. | ||
| Regarding the raptors, Mark said it is especially difficult to command raptors because they don't obey you easily. | ||
| That they have decided even before you give an order what order you're going to give them and decided whether or not it's a good one. | ||
| First of all, you heard some jingling? | ||
| That's her dog. | ||
| She gets really mad that the dog is making noise in the background. | ||
| I thought she was wearing bangles, which I would have appreciated. | ||
| That's her dog. | ||
| Also, it's Chris Pratt. | ||
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Chris Pratt, there it is. | |
| And so you can't begin to have a discussion with them about different points of view on the Order because they've already figured out all the different points of view. | ||
| Their minds work really, really fast and have already made their own decision. | ||
| So he says it is therefore difficult to command them. | ||
| However, Mark is known to be quite a good commander of the Raptors simply because of their loyalty and love for him. | ||
| They love him so much that even though they know all the angles ahead of time, he's just unique. | ||
| He's just unique. | ||
| He's so special. | ||
| I just don't know what to do with a person who believes that. | ||
| Honestly, somehow, I'm far more on board with Raptors loving chocolate than... | ||
| Somehow him just being a great commander of raptors. | ||
| He's a raptor whisperer. | ||
| It's ridiculous to me. | ||
| He's so good. | ||
| It's bananas. | ||
| He's so good! | ||
| It's absolutely bananas. | ||
| But because he's so good, and because the situation in the world is so severe, there's so many of these alien battles. | ||
| Like, you see the fires in Brazil, in the Amazon. | ||
| You see trouble in Africa. | ||
| You see these hurricanes. | ||
| They're all just covering up for alien battles. | ||
| You need people like Mark. | ||
| You need him. | ||
| And that means he's probably going to get out of prison soon because they need him. | ||
| Regarding Mark's new job, and you can see more about this in Interview 10, basically, I had raised the idea that maybe... | ||
| He is being trained in his job because he's handling large numbers of men. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| It's highly technical. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| They're building lenses for Medicare, as I understand it. | ||
| And Mark is in charge of all of that. | ||
| It looks like he's learning new computer programs and so on. | ||
| Screenwriting. | ||
| The military may actually be testing him to see if he is able to be re-recruited into the secret space program, whether he can handle the current state of play that our military is dealing with at his age. | ||
| And Mark does agree that this is perfectly possible. | ||
| And in fact, Mark is obviously more than able to handle this sort of thing. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We have ventured. | ||
| Purely into Demolition Man at this point. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| How so? | ||
| He's Sylvester Stallone. | ||
| He's being brought back for one last job because there's one psychopath. | ||
| That's not just demolition. | ||
| One psychopath that, I mean, obviously, it's... | ||
| It's interesting if that's the first thing that comes to your mind, that fucking old kind of trope. | ||
| Oh, yeah, the bringing the man out of retirement for one last job. | ||
| No, I think it's just because of a very specific enemy that only Mark is prepared to handle. | ||
| In the futuristic technology, we don't understand violence, etc. | ||
| I mean, it's frustrating, but it is what it is. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| They've created this fun world to live in where he's going to get out of prison because they need him to fight these reptoids and he has raptors on his side who are impossible to deal with. | ||
| Anybody else, but they love him. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's a fun time. | ||
| I just can't handle it. | ||
| Well, you're not going to be able to handle this much easier because we have just a couple more clips left. | ||
| Because there's not much... | ||
| I mean, the substance of this episode is largely like what we talked about. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like the Randy Kramer false flag bullshit, the mixing in fun, goofy, dumb space bullshit with real-world whitewashing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you heard earlier that Carrie got a new computer. | ||
| Yes, I did. | ||
| And it absolutely has nothing to do with her issues with recording, Dan. | ||
| We're going to learn a little bit more about how she got that new computer. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And this is a little bit sad, but also it's grandiose as hell. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So any financial help you can give would be very... | ||
| Welcome to help fund this new computer that I now have and have had to put on a credit card. | ||
| I will deduct it eventually in April, but I had to lay out out of pocket and will be paying payments on it and interest payments as well, which raises the price of the computer. | ||
| So any donations would be greatly appreciated at this time. | ||
| With an audience of 232,000 subscribers and actually 63 million worldwide viewers, it seems that any small donation from any of these individuals would be quite welcome and perhaps something that you could consider. | ||
| And so thank you very much if you do so. | ||
| And I will continue to... | ||
| Fight the good fight to get this information out. | ||
| I don't have any interest in kicking her at all about the idea that you put this computer on a credit card. | ||
| That's not my point at all. | ||
| The reason I played that clip is because this is still a monetary business. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I'm trying to get donations from people. | ||
| And great. | ||
| I mean, you're doing work on some level, and if people enjoy that, you should. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You do not have 63 million people listening. | ||
| It's really doubtful. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Go to her YouTube. | ||
| Go to Project Camelot on YouTube and see how many downloads there are. | ||
| See how many views there are. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| That's like Alex. | ||
| That's like Alex. | ||
| One third of the world listens to me. | ||
| Putin listens every day. | ||
| It is... | ||
| Grandiose bullshit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There are very few things that I am very good at. | ||
| But somehow financial literacy is one of them. | ||
| And goddammit, Carrie. | ||
| Every fucking company runs 0% interest promotions on all of these things. | ||
| What you need to do is find one of those that has a 12-month 0% interest option, keep your credit score high, and then later on you can cancel that credit card, get a new credit card that has a 0% 18-month option because you've kept your credit high as long as you've made good payments on that, and then you can keep going and paying this with 0% interest indefinitely. | ||
| And the fact that she doesn't know that means she doesn't know! | ||
| That raptors are coming! | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| And also, I should say that this episode is so fucking heavily monetized. | ||
| It's an hour long, and it's broken up by tons of commercials. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I had to edit out commercials. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Because I'm recording it from the YouTube. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| It gets interrupted by commercials. | ||
| An hour, probably like six commercials. | ||
| Do you think... | ||
| Did they demonetize her? | ||
| No! | ||
| If so, they would not have had those ads in there. | ||
| She is monetized on YouTube. | ||
| So whatever... | ||
| I don't know how much... | ||
| I don't know how much that brings in. | ||
| Honestly, I don't. | ||
| Because YouTube has never been an interest of mine. | ||
| It's not something that I know how many pennies you make for ads or whatever. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But her videos are heavily monetized. | ||
| So, she is making some money on that front. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know the pay structure. | ||
| I don't know the fee structure. | ||
| What I do know is either she has bad credit or... | ||
| She just doesn't know how to leverage her credit for her benefit. | ||
| Could be a combination of both. | ||
| It's frustration. | ||
| Although that guy did scam her out of like $50,000, right? | ||
| Yeah, the dude who's in prison. | ||
| Actually, he was just recently on an episode where they recorded a call from him in prison. | ||
| That can't be real. | ||
| I refuse to accept that. | ||
| What is this, Adnan? | ||
| We would have done that episode, but it was only like 12 minutes long, and who gives a shit? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I honestly also think that she's lying about some of this stuff. | ||
| And one of the reasons I think that is this last clip. | ||
| I will also be considering going to Turkey and I'm being invited to speak in Romania. | ||
| So these things are possible. | ||
| I do not get paid much when I do speak out there and I also often have to pay my own way to and from. | ||
| Welcome to the Road Dog Life, man. | ||
| Here's the reason that I think that that's troubling. | ||
| She's been talking about the Yelm Conference, like a bunch of this episode, and every single article that I was able to find about the Yelm Conference, when they were talking about the price of admission to the Cosmic Symposium, it made very clear that the price of admission, all of the money goes to the speakers. | ||
| So if $250 is the ticket price for that, and let's say 20 people pay for it, that covers travel for all the speakers. | ||
| That easily covers all of the people having to fly in for this. | ||
| Whatever price it costs to do these things is minimal. | ||
| Now, the flip side of that is, if you're not getting paid to go speak, let's say, in Romania, then you're not a draw. | ||
| What you're doing is not important. | ||
| Dan, are you enumerating why so many comedy clubs will not book me? | ||
| I understand the desire to portray things slightly differently, but you can't have it both ways. | ||
| You can't have it be like, we have 63 million viewers around the world and say, I have to pay to go do these. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Trips. | ||
| You can have one or the other. | ||
| You can be like, for us, I'm never going to bluff and say that we have the biggest audience in the world. | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm thrilled we have the audience that we do, but it's humble if you compare it to other large podcasts. | ||
| But I'm never going to pretend that we are the biggest thing in the world and then go speak for free. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'll go speak for free because we do not have a very large audience. | ||
| Do you know what? | ||
| Honestly? | ||
| Honestly, the thing that I am amazed by with this podcast is that I have, to a certain extent, become a draw for two to five people in certain regions. | ||
| And I will tell you something right now, that is not... | ||
| That's not nothing. | ||
| That is not nothing. | ||
| There are plenty of headliners. | ||
| That's far more than... | ||
| There are plenty of headliners that I have worked with over the years who do not have a draw of two to five people. | ||
| So I'm stoked about it. | ||
| It's a thing that's an authentic draw, too, because it's people who want to see you as opposed to... | ||
| They're tricked by advertising or something. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Everybody is... | ||
| It's not like somebody just randomly grabs a free ticket, although if you would like a free ticket to a show, do not pay for comedy. | ||
| You can get it anywhere. | ||
| Give a plug for your shows. | ||
| I don't have any. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I'm free. | ||
| My point is that, like, with this, I just see duplicitousness. | ||
| Like, I don't resent... | ||
| Carrie saying, I have to put this computer on my credit card, and if you like what we do, please donate. | ||
| I don't resent that at all. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| I also, in a vacuum, don't resent her overblowing her audience. | ||
| I understand narcissism and people wanting to seem bigger than they are. | ||
| I get that. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| I get that. | ||
| That's branding. | ||
| That's marketing. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| Them being combined and also being in service of inflating... | ||
| Information from a murderer that is alternatingly fun and then the other side of it is whitewashing atrocities. | ||
| I can't get around that. | ||
| And it bums me out to be like, hey, listen. | ||
| Listen, lady. | ||
| You are doing this thing and it's sad at the end of this. | ||
| When you're talking about needing to put this computer on your credit card and needing donations and no one pays me to give speeches. | ||
| It makes me sad to... | ||
| Insult you, or critique that, or bring that up. | ||
| But it exists in the... | ||
| What this is, is a long, stretched-out version of an ad pivot. | ||
| With Alex, whenever he's like, the Globals are trying to kill you, now Infowars don't exist. | ||
| We got specials, the best special ever, Easter sale is going. | ||
| It's the same kind of thing, but stretched out. | ||
| You have the entire presentation over... | ||
| 50 minutes or whatever, and then this at the end. | ||
| It's still trying to... | ||
| We've done this, and now... | ||
| I just don't respect it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't know. | ||
| On a certain level, if she is correct about having 63 million views... | ||
| She's not. | ||
| I don't think she's correct. | ||
| That could be possible. | ||
| That's possible, right? | ||
| She's had a lot of videos. | ||
| So if there's 63 million views... | ||
| That is not unsubstantial. | ||
| I mean, back when you're talking about the monoculture, that would make her a trillionaire. | ||
| Right, but over 12 years or whatever? | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| That's a different story. | ||
| It's still a ton. | ||
| It's still a ton. | ||
| Yeah, and I'm not trying to diminish anything. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
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And, you know, it's free content. | |
| So, 63 million people, you know, I get it. | ||
| If she was a Nickelodeon in the 1910s and 63 million people went through the door, she would have at least $5 or $6. | ||
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Right. | |
| I get it. | ||
| If 63 million people watched any one of her videos, that would be almost three times Elon Musk going on Joe Rogan's show, which is his top-rated show of all time. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| If you have 63 million people who've watched your videos over 12 years, those aren't 63 million unique people. | ||
| Oh no, absolutely not. | ||
| It's the same five guys. | ||
| It's still great. | ||
| It's still a great number over that time, but it's not the same as you put out one product and you have that many eyes on it. | ||
| Well, I think it's partially a function of the... | ||
| I mean, I guess, post-monoculture niche entertainment sphere wherein it's like nobody really knows how much their time is worth anymore. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| You know, like, you see it so often with freelance writers. | ||
| Lord knows I know that. | ||
| Well, I mean, what just happened to Sports Illustrated and how they've destroyed their staff and now they're trying to create those, like, almost multi-level marketing scheme. | ||
| Writers where it's like, your best bet is you work 80 hours a week and you make 10 bucks every time you write it. | ||
| I'm probably paid $3 an hour for the work I do here. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I'm thrilled I am. | ||
| No, and I'm incredibly grateful that we're paid at all! | ||
| But it's weird to think of nobody really knows what the valuation is. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| I can't shit on her for that. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, at the same time, I can't endorse what she's saying. | ||
| I could endorse it devoid of context. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Oh, yes, yeah. | ||
| I could be fine with all of the end of the episode if the other stuff wasn't there. | ||
| The other stuff being there makes it really tough for me to swallow and feel really bad or pitying of this. | ||
| 100%. | ||
|
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So I don't know, man. | |
| It's tough. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| We have this thing. | ||
| that's supposed to be a break, and it is in many ways. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Like, it's great to get back to space, but it is also still like shades. | |
| You still see shades of the modern world. | ||
| You still see shades of fascist-adjacent propaganda being put out. | ||
| Always. | ||
| I mean, that's just a reality of it. | ||
| There is no real escape anymore. | ||
| Carrie, if you're listening to this, I have one thing to say to you. | ||
| It's not too late. | ||
| Plenty of places are offering a less than 2% balance transfer fee. | ||
| You can get a new credit card, transfer your balance from your high interest rate APR credit card over to a 0% interest. | ||
| You pay maybe a 2% fee that's way less than your... | ||
| Carrie! | ||
| Get in contact with me and I will help you sort your shit out. | ||
| And if you're listening, please make me a cat alien. | ||
| Oh yes, actually, yeah. | ||
| I would like to be a dog merchant. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Dog mercantile agent over there. | ||
| So, Jordan, before we get out of here, let's jump back and give a couple more shout-outs to folks. | ||
| I would love that because we are behind and I just love it. | ||
| Clunky-ass transition from us talking about Carrie trying to raise money. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
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No one think about this for a second! | |
| First of all, Joseph, thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Joseph. | ||
| Next, Bronwyn. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
| Thank you, Bronwyn. | ||
| Bronwyn is a good name. | ||
| We've got a couple of them. | ||
| We've got a couple Bronwens. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I always enjoy hearing that. | ||
| I like that name. | ||
| That's one of those names, though, where you're like, at this point in time in 2019, you're like, we've heard it twice. | ||
| Is that a meme? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It might be a much more, like, a... | ||
| Far more common name. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Than we realize, but it's great. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Yeah, me too. | ||
| I like Bronwyn a lot. | ||
| Next, Villa. | ||
| I don't know how to pronounce it, maybe. | ||
| Via? | ||
| V-I-L-L-E. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
|
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you much, Villa. | ||
| Next, Sarah. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
|
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
| Thank you, Sarah. | ||
| Next, Dominic. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
| Thanks, Dom! | ||
| Dummy! | ||
| Yeah, one of my favorite comedians growing up was Dom Irera. | ||
| Sure, great episodes on Dr. Katz. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| I wanted to fuck Dr. Katz. | ||
| I met him. | ||
| Did you? | ||
| You met Dom Irera? | ||
| He was wasted. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| It was a few years back. | ||
| So when I worked at the Laugh Factory... | ||
| Back when I was doing stand-up, I became a regular at the Laugh Factory in Chicago almost immediately. | ||
| Yeah, because you're a very talented stand-up comedian. | ||
| And Jamie... | ||
| The owner of the Laugh Factory. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Jamie Masada. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Was there when I auditioned and he became like a good friend of mine. | ||
| Ish. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He gave me his phone number, his cell phone number. | ||
| Insofar as that type of person. | ||
| He would call me on the cell phone all the time and be like, hey Dan, what's up buddy? | ||
| Like all this shit. | ||
| He wanted me to start a show there, and his idea for it was, because I had a big beard, he was like, you need to do lumberjack comedy. | ||
| He's like, everyone's lumberjacks. | ||
| We do a show, it's lumberjacks. | ||
| That's the greatest Masada idea. | ||
| We do a lumberjack thing. | ||
| And I was like, I don't think that works. | ||
| What about female comics? | ||
| We put them in beards! | ||
| That's what he said, but he gestured down to his pubic region. | ||
| He's like, we put a beard on. | ||
| I'm like, that is not what I will do. | ||
| Comedy as a business has always been great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So everybody knows. | ||
| It was a mess. | ||
| It was a mess trying to deal with him. | ||
| But the other times that I would hang out with him and, like, because he would constantly, every time he came to town, he would call me on my cell phone from his cell phone. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And be like, Dan, come hang out. | ||
| And I would go hang out with him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he would tell me these stories about, like, the early days of the Laugh Factory in L.A. Yeah. | ||
| Like, with Pryor and Carlin. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And, like, they were rambling fucking stories. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But they were still good stories. | ||
| How could they not be? | ||
| One of the things that was so interesting was the through line kept being like, these people would just be at the theater all the time, at the club. | ||
| And people would be sleeping there and just completely fucked up. | ||
| He's a great, great story. | ||
| And I don't think Jamie Masada is necessarily a bad person, but he is so distracted by all these things, and dumb ideas, that he easily is interpreted as a bad person. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Whatever the case is, I was involved... | ||
| You met Dom Irera. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| One time, I was hanging out with Jamie upstairs at the Laugh Factory. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And we were having a drink and talking about a show I eventually ended up doing at the Laugh Factory called the People's Temple of Comedy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Which was meant to be... | ||
| The idea was we were a cult of comedy. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But you still put beards on all the women's... | ||
| Did not do that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It did not work out. | ||
| The show was a disaster. | ||
| But it was high concept. | ||
| In some ways, they made us do it at Sunday at like 6. It was a disaster. | ||
| Yes, that's the best time for high concept comedy. | ||
| I had another idea for a great live comedy show that would be a call-in comedy show where me and another person would be the hosts and we would be doing essentially a podcast on stage and then have comics come up. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But then there would also be a call-in aspect and live stream it. | ||
| It was very complicated. | ||
| Kind of recreating Love Line. | ||
| They said, no chance. | ||
| Yeah, of course not. | ||
| So we didn't do that. | ||
| I was hanging out with Jamie one night, and Don Marrera was in town, and he showed up. | ||
| He was so fucking wasted. | ||
| He was just gone. | ||
| Like, it was early, too. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And the thing that bummed me out... | ||
| Hey, it's about 7 p.m. | ||
| We gotta hide a body. | ||
| Anyways, come on back. | ||
| The Coen brothers stole my bed. | ||
| The thing that bummed me out was, like, I loved him on, like, Dr. Katz. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And his comedy growing up. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| And it would have been, like, the most amazing experience. | ||
| I'm meeting Dom Herrera. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And he was just, like... | ||
| One of the legends of comedy. | ||
| Essentially not there. | ||
| I felt very bad about that. | ||
| You got the most comedy experience that you could get, you know? | ||
| That is the traditional comedy experience. | ||
| All that being said, he was very nice. | ||
| Yes, and also... | ||
| He was very nice. | ||
| Thank you very much, Dominic. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You're a policy walk. | ||
| Santa, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy walk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Santa. | ||
| Not Satan. | ||
| Santa. | ||
| Wanna, Santa. | ||
| Wanna, wanna. | ||
| Next, Meg. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Next, Margo. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Margo. | ||
| And apologies for National Lampoon's Christmas vacation. | ||
| I'm sure that must have been tough on you. | ||
| Or Kidder. | ||
| Could have been. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Next, Slade. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
|
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
| Next. | ||
| This is not buzz marketing for their Switch game. | ||
| Oh, here we go. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| I promise you. | ||
| Watch out. | ||
| This is not buzz marketing. | ||
| It's got some sort of foul in it, correct? | ||
| Thank you so much, Goose. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
|
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
| Thank you, Goose. | ||
| Sorry about that tragic ejecting accident. | ||
| Oh, is that new Top Gun out yet? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| I know there's another one coming out, right? | ||
| I bet Goose lives in this one, yeah. | ||
| They're rebooting it or remaking it or whatever. | ||
| Next, John Henry. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
| Thank you, John Henry, for continuing to be a metaphor for the working man against the onslaught of automation. | ||
| As I recall, back when I was a younger man in Columbia, Missouri, there was a local band called John Henry and the Engine. | ||
| Oh, that's not a bad name. | ||
| I actually really like that name. | ||
| I don't know if they... | ||
| Did they beat the engine or no? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I just remember them being a name around town. | ||
| I don't know if I ever saw them. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I'm positive I did, but I can't remember any of their songs. | ||
| I think it's better than Florence and the Machine. | ||
| I would prefer John Henry in that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Next and finally, Go on Chopo. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| No. | ||
| Should be pointed out, different person than the other Go on Chopo. | ||
| Interesting how those very... | ||
| That's as meme-ish as any of these other things. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But it's not so much like, hey, no, go fuck yourself. | ||
| It's interesting that you think that we would even be asked. | ||
| Nor would it be interesting. | ||
| Like Chapo sending us a barrage of emails like, oh my god, we can't wait. | ||
| I'm a little... | ||
| Disappointed in myself just because formerly I was of the anime community. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I... | ||
| The Wazaruda. | ||
| I am last... | ||
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I lapsed, and the Wazaruda is... | |
| It disappoints me not to know it. | ||
| Well, you should feel some shame about that. | ||
| That you should feel some shame about, but not me, because I'm not a dork. | ||
| Yeah, well, hey, fucking... | ||
| Anybody want to come at me? | ||
| Let's go with read or die. | ||
| Who's got it? | ||
| Paprika, what do you got? | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Probably some good references for things I don't know anything about. | ||
|
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Very good. | |
| Very good references. | ||
| But anyway, thank you so much to everybody who supports the show. | ||
| Thank you for everyone who's made it this far. | ||
| We appreciate it. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| We'll be back on Friday, probably with a present-day episode. | ||
| I think we should check in, because... | ||
| We will see. | ||
| I have to assume that Alex Jones is freaking the fuck out. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think anything important is happening on the world stage today. | ||
| Especially in terms... | ||
|
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Oh, yeah. | |
| In the present day? | ||
| I think it's just business as usual for the most part. | ||
| I mean, I have to assume... | ||
| I have not listened to today or yesterday's episode as we're recording this, but I have to assume Alex is against Trump allowing Turkey to... | ||
| Do their shit in Syria. | ||
| I'm gonna go the opposite direction. | ||
| I mean, I have to assume, like, based on everything I know about his, like, sort of geopolitical stances... | ||
| It has to be, right? | ||
| I mean, we'll find out on Friday, but I have to assume he's against that. | ||
| I'm going to go the opposite direction. | ||
| I think he's going to defend it 100%. | ||
| I think he's going to be like, we need to get out of foreign wars and so on and so forth. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| My man, I'm being facetious. | ||
| Of course he's probably going to do that. | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| I didn't catch it. | ||
| You were way too good on this one. | ||
| Well, no, because based on his entire career, he should be... | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I bet, of course, he's defending it. | ||
| Fair enough, fair enough. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| But we'll find out on our next episode. | ||
| But until then, we've got a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| It is knowledgefight.com. | ||
| You bet it is. | ||
| We've got a Twitter account. | ||
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We are on Twitter. | |
| It is at knowledge underscore fight and at gotobedjordan. | ||
| Check in on Jordan's Twitter for the tour dates he doesn't have. | ||
|
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Boom. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Nicely done. | ||
| Nicely done. | ||
| We're also on Facebook. | ||
| My calendar is free on Facebook as well. | ||
| And if you would like to download our podcast, please go to iTunes. | ||
| It would help if you left a review, I think, according to what other people have said. | ||
| Some very nice reviews lately also. | ||
| I accidentally checked in. | ||
| You shouldn't do that as a person. | ||
| But I accidentally was alerted to a review. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I read a couple and I was very heartwarming. | ||
| Thank you so much for the nice words. | ||
| Yes, I appreciate everyone. | ||
| You know what's great? | ||
| Most especially the people who are like, this is an incredible show. | ||
| I wish you would get rid of Jordan. | ||
| It would be really good if he just got rid of Jordan. | ||
| 90% of the reviews that I've read are just glowing. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| I love the show. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| 2% are go fuck these guys. | ||
| Very small amount. | ||
| And then that other 8% is this show is great. | ||
| Fuck Jordan. | ||
| My favorite part. | ||
| There are zero in the other direction. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| There is no one who's like, what if Jordan just did this show by himself? | ||
| None. | ||
| None of them are like, Dan's too boring. | ||
| None. | ||
| Zero. | ||
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Zero. | |
| And honestly, those people can go fuck themselves. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| You know, they have any negative things to say about you. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| I agree with that 8%. | ||
| Well, you're 8% self-loathing. | ||
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Yeah, well. | |
| You're right. | ||
| It sort of hit the, like, saturation point. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Nailed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But we'll be back for another episode soon. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I am the Spider Octopus and DZX Clark. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
|
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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