Today, Dan and Jordan look at how Alex Jones has been covering the massive news of the previous few days. Trump gave an anti-Globalist speech at the UN, the House launched an impeachment inquiry, and Alex announced some lawsuits he's filing. Yet, the most important news on this episode may be that Alex thinks someone who definitely was not a US president was actually a US president.
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
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| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk just a tiny bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan, this is exhausting times, but what do you got going on? | ||
| Dan, I was just going to ask you real quick one question. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, it might be two questions, depending on your definition. | ||
| I might have time for both of them. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
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All right. | |
| Have you either been the pitcher of or receiver of a surprise party? | ||
| Nope, next question. | ||
| I feel like it has to have happened, or I've been involved in one, but if it has, there is no memory. | ||
| It's uneventful enough to the point where I have no idea. | ||
| I know that I've yelled surprise at somebody. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Anytime you do that, that's a party. | ||
| That's what that is. | ||
| I am sure that I've been at a party where we yelled surprise. | ||
| But to the extent that I remember it in a specific way, it means that I might have been like a third-tier friend that was there for a surprise party. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think I'm pretty lucky in that I don't think anyone has ever thought, like, let's get to Anna Sparks. | ||
| I bet he'd love that. | ||
| You're not a surprise party guy. | ||
| I think I would actually probably deal with it pretty gracefully, but it's definitely not something I would enjoy. | ||
| Yeah, but see, you put it that way. | ||
| I would deal with it gracefully is not the same as, thank you for throwing me a surprise party. | ||
| I would try not to be grumpy. | ||
| Unsuccessfully. | ||
| I know I've yelled surprise before. | ||
| I assume I have. | ||
| What was your second question? | ||
| Well, that was either the receiver or pitcher. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| It was a clarifying second question. | ||
| I apologize that I do not have any memories of notable surprise parties. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| I do know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| That is my redeeming quality for this introduction. | ||
| We got it. | ||
| So, Jordan, today the world is on fire. | ||
| In what year? | ||
| The hills are alive with the sound of bullshit is how I would describe this. | ||
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Come on. | |
| It's just the end. | ||
| So there's a lot going on in the world. | ||
| And when we put out our last episode for Wednesday, we did a present day episode, but we had done it before a lot of the news that's relevant and people are probably interested in Alex's take on had broken. | ||
| So today we're staying in the present. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we are going to be going over September 24th and 25th. | ||
| Which would be Tuesday and Wednesday of this week. | ||
| Anything interesting, newsworthy, noteworthy events on those two days? | ||
| I had trouble pulling clips. | ||
| There's a lot going on. | ||
| So we've got, first of all, for everyone who doesn't know the broad strokes of what's been going on, we have the... | ||
| Trump-Ukraine situation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you're listening to this in posterity, I suppose that's the way we... | ||
| We have the news breaking of the impeachment inquiry in the House. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We have Trump going to the U.N. and saying that the future is for global... | ||
| Or not for globalists. | ||
| Not for globalists, for patriots. | ||
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Patriots. | |
| Patriots. | ||
| He said patriots? | ||
| I can't listen to him. | ||
| You pronounce it funny. | ||
| I haven't listened to him speak for two years. | ||
| That speech, beyond just its context, its delivery was like a dude who got hit with a Quaalude dart. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Like, it was very lethargic. | ||
| See, I... | ||
| Every time somebody describes one of his speeches, I'm like, maybe I should listen to it, and then I just don't. | ||
| It was upsetting. | ||
| And I only listened to most of it because of Alex playing a lot of it. | ||
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Right, of course. | |
| So you've got all that stuff. | ||
| And then the big breaking news on Wednesday was that Alex Jones has launched his lawsuits that he's been talking about forever. | ||
| Oh, that was the breaking news. | ||
| Well, that was one of the... | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| That wasn't covered in the Guardians live blog. | ||
| No, certainly not. | ||
| And thankfully, I hope no one covers it except us. | ||
| Not because I want to claim the space. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Just because I think it's a publicity stunt. | ||
| And we'll get into that as we go through it. | ||
| Oh no, that means barns. | ||
| There'll be minimal barns. | ||
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| You try it. | ||
| Well, you know, it's not fair. | ||
| It's not fair. | ||
| I don't want to be this guy who can't pronounce your name. | ||
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No. | |
| I want to be able to pronounce your name because I respect and love you. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's awful. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| That's even worse. | ||
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| Crikey, mate. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
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| So, we're going to start on the 24th, but before we get to that... | ||
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And you know, I'm going to tell you something. | |
| This country's done. | ||
| This country's soft. | ||
| This country's stupid. | ||
| This country's weak. | ||
| Oh, Alex. | ||
| Why have you had to turn on the country? | ||
| That's rough. | ||
| That's a harsh turn. | ||
| I thought we were doing great against the globalists and shit like that. | ||
| That's bad news for Americans when they lose the king of Americana. | ||
| The king of loving this country. | ||
| All you people are soft and weak. | ||
| Well, sometimes you wind up killing the things you love the most, Dan. | ||
| I suppose so. | ||
| So, Jordan, as we get into this, I don't have any clips at the beginning of the show, because the first 20 minutes of it is just a pretty uninspired attack on Greta Thunberg, who, I'll remind you, is 16 years old. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Alex spends the first chunk of the show comparing her to Hitler and talking about the Hitler youth, and to be sure, Greta's age doesn't make her above criticism, but it should really make her off-limits to this style of targeting and demonization, even if you thoroughly detest the message that she's putting out. | ||
| Like, I've missed out on some prime... | ||
| I think that's a pretty decent way to operate. | ||
| Especially if you imagine yourself back when you were 15, 16, some of the things that you said you'd probably stand behind, but some of it you wouldn't want to be called fucking Hitler Youth for. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| We've even talked very little about the Covington kids on this podcast, except in the context of Barnes being their lawyer, for kind of similar reasons. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They might be assholes or whatever, but leave that for other people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I don't say this because I don't think Greta can't handle it. | ||
| I'm not saying that at all. | ||
| It's clear that she has a very strong character that I only wish I had a slice of at her age. | ||
| And being a part of this younger online generation, I'm sure her skin is thick enough to not care too much about what a loser like Alex Jones says. | ||
| It's more that this sort of behavior is the exclusive action of someone who is a monster. | ||
| It's the sort of thing that Alex would be deeply ashamed to do, were he capable of that emotion. | ||
| And the thing that's even sadder is that he's just repeating other people's ideas. | ||
| When our Wednesday episode came out, where we went over September 23rd of 2019, I got some responses from listeners wondering why we didn't cover Alex talking about Greta, if he was complaining about all that climate change stuff through a good part of that episode. | ||
| And I probably should have made this more clear. | ||
| He didn't really talk about her at all on the 23rd. | ||
| Carlson did a segment about her on the evening of the 23rd that she even really entered Alex's head as a target. | ||
| And this opening piece on Alex's show is him just taking Tucker's talking points, escalating them and repackaging them for an extremist audience. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Wow, we're almost a half hour into this thing and there is nothing happening except that. | ||
| Yeah, Greta is fucking made of Damascus steel. | ||
| I watched the speech, the harrowing fucking how dare you speech. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Alex does misrepresent that stuff a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| That belongs in a movie. | ||
| The one that we're living in where we die very shortly afterwards. | ||
| When she was saying, we'll be watching you, you know, reflecting that the younger generation is paying attention to what the older generation is doing and how they have every reason to know what they're doing and still failing to act. | ||
| Alex interpreted that as a big brother message. | ||
| And it's like, she's talking about the chai comms. | ||
| Alright, that's stupid. | ||
| God, that was one of my favorite lines just because people applauded at that. | ||
| And I was just looking at all of them. | ||
| She's talking about you idiots. | ||
| All of the people applauding. | ||
| Those are the ones she's watching. | ||
| We don't need to watch the guys who are actively fucking destroying the planet. | ||
| We can see that out of our fucking peripheral vision. | ||
| And I think that's another thing that's sort of lost on Alex, is that her target and who she was speaking most condemningly about wasn't... | ||
| People like Alex or even these climate deniers necessarily, but the people who lack the will of conviction to do something. | ||
| Yeah, imagine that there was an entire conference of Nancy Pelosi's. | ||
| That's who she was talking to. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So I only bring that up that this was a big chunk of the episode, because we're going to get into stuff, and it feels kind of in media res. | ||
| You know, it feels like it's from sort of a ways into the episode, and that's because it is. | ||
| But I just don't have any patience for listening to him yell about how a 16-year-old kid is Hitler. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| It's pathetic. | ||
| We are still going to talk a little bit about some of his comments about her, but that stuff, flat. | ||
| So, anyway, along with attacking youth, Alex has some other stuff to take care of on this episode. | ||
| Here's what I want to do. | ||
| We have Carpe Donctum popping in about 15 minutes into the next hour to talk about the death of the Donald, arguably the biggest pro-Trump area or domain or realm on the Internet. | ||
| So he's going to have Carpe Donctum on. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| To give a good moratorium on the Donald. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| That interview is, like, really standard stuff, and we'll get into a little bit of it, but even without listening, I knew what this was going to be about. | ||
| When he's talking about, I'm going to have Carpe Donctum on to talk about the Donald, I knew it was up. | ||
| Like, Carpe Donctum has started his Meme World site, and he's trying to lay claim to the legacy of the Donald subreddit. | ||
| And he's hoping that he can direct traffic from the people who are there to his new thing. | ||
| Because there were millions of visitors to the Donald, and there are not millions of visitors to Meme World. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He had almost 100 likes on one post, right? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| 104 on a Ben Garrison one. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Well, then never mind. | ||
| This is a doomed exercise, partially because his website sucks, and partially because what made the Donald work had a lot to do with the infrastructure of Reddit and how it was designed. | ||
| Meme world has a vastly inferior structure, and it lacks the millions of people just sort of casually browsing the site who are the targets of the memes that would come out of the Donald. | ||
| Without the unaware audience of millions upon whom you can subject your bullshit to, your bullshit loses any value to anyone. | ||
| And I suspect Carpe Donctum is going to learn that lesson the hard way. | ||
| And Alex is too, because he is really pitching in with this meme world bullshit. | ||
| Oh man, they... | ||
| It's... | ||
| It's like watching two dinosaurs try and drive a car. | ||
| It's like, you guys do not belong here. | ||
| Wrong. | ||
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| Get out of that car, you idiot. | ||
| So Alex starts talking about, you know, globalist stuff. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Starts ranting about demons. | ||
| They do it. | ||
| I mean, there's no better way to introduce this clip. | ||
| It's just ranting about bullshit. | ||
| They tell you in all their Hollywood movies what they're doing. | ||
| The main program in Tron. | ||
| Once all the programs bound to it, absorbed into it, gone. | ||
| Their free will destroyed. | ||
| Their souls devoured. | ||
| And the mainframe's going to give all its power to the beast. | ||
| Just like in Tron. | ||
| Oh, my system's yours. | ||
| And the system of oppression's going to become a thousand foot colossus. | ||
| Like Tron. | ||
| But it has clay feet. | ||
| It's built on mud. | ||
| We're going to fall. | ||
| So all you servants of Satan, keep doubling down, keep arrogantly claiming you're in power. | ||
| Look at you. | ||
| You're fallen and ugly. | ||
| The demons aren't too nice to you. | ||
| You take on their form, don't you? | ||
| And then you become nothing more than slaves. | ||
| Let's look at Greta. | ||
| Greta Thunberg. | ||
| Pumped full of more vaccines than a porcupine. | ||
| Looking just like the Grinch, whose heart was three times too small. | ||
| What? | ||
| Brainwashed by her Antifa parents to hate civilization, to hate humanity, but to believe that she has a right to rule. | ||
| And to cut off the fossil fuels. | ||
| Her Swedish antifa parents? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, there are pictures of them, apparently. | ||
| I don't know if they're real or not, even. | ||
| But there's pictures of her parents and her in, like, anti-fascist t-shirts. | ||
| Don't even need it. | ||
| Don't care. | ||
| Hey, guess what? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Yeah, don't care. | ||
| Don't care. | ||
| Don't even want to bother with it. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| But all that other stuff is like, wait, Alex, you got her vaccination records? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| First of all. | ||
| Do you have your porcupines vaccination records is my next question. | ||
| I used to say that because they got a lot of needles. | ||
| He's clever. | ||
| He knows how to make a sentence. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's pretty gross, but that's sort of the level of shit that he's got going on as it relates to this young lady. | ||
| And it's just... | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| He's attacking her sort of... | ||
| You've been vaccinated. | ||
| Your mind's been destroyed by these vaccines. | ||
| You look like the Grinch. | ||
| That's not even great to do to an adult. | ||
| No. | ||
| Do you know who insults a 16-year-old like that? | ||
| Cool guy? | ||
| 16 year old. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Do you know who shouldn't do that? | ||
| Adults. | ||
| 45-year-old. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Brilliant brain genius types like Alex Jones? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So he says there at the end that she's trying to get rid of the fossil fuels. | ||
| She's trying to rule by destroying fossil fuels. | ||
| Cool, I'm fine with that. | ||
| I will let her rule if she can successfully destroy fossil fuels. | ||
| She gets the gig. | ||
| You have shown yourself to be anti-fossil fuel, and I need to tell you something. | ||
| Yes, I have! | ||
| Over the years! | ||
| You have put yourself in league with... | ||
| Literal demons. | ||
| Well, yeah, I did do that. | ||
| You may not know that, but I should warn you that Alex has some weird things to say. | ||
| That it's almost like there's a god to put him here right when the earth starts losing his atmosphere, which we are. | ||
| Lowest level of carbon dioxide ever recorded in the last century. | ||
| A trace gas. | ||
| Not even one-tenth of one percent. | ||
| And suddenly we find... | ||
| Giant supplies of it held within the Earth at the key time to terraform and save the planet. | ||
| And they zoom in. | ||
| Jacked. | ||
| Space troopers dropping in. | ||
| Turn off kills! | ||
| Humans are bad! | ||
| Give it to everyone! | ||
| Save yourselves by dying! | ||
| I mean, dropping in, man. | ||
| Avataring in. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And not avataring in to save the planet, to kill it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I find this really weird because here we see Alex telling his audience that the real issue with climate change is that there are demons who want to stop the world from releasing CO2 into the air because the Earth is CO2 deficient and God placed fossil fuel reserves into the ground so humans could find them at just the time, you know, the right time to save the world by burning them and polluting a whole bunch. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That is what he's putting forth here. | ||
| Yeah, because that's correct. | ||
| Right, they're jacking in like avatars. | ||
| But see, it's weird for me because, you know, these are the ravings of a lunatic. | ||
| Yes, that is an issue. | ||
| But it's also weird because I thought his problem with climate change promoters was that they were just trying to force people to pay carbon taxes that would enrich Al Gore and George Soros while destroying the West. | ||
| Now it's a plot by demons to stop God's plan to save the Earth? | ||
| This guy can't get his fucking story straight. | ||
| Eh, it's metastasized. | ||
| You know, it started with Soros and Gore, and then the demons got their little claws in there, and now here we are. | ||
| As to Alex's claim that CO2 levels are at their lowest ever, that's complete bullshit. | ||
| Scientists have been able to use ice core samples to measure the CO2 levels in the air from as far back as 800,000 years, which is a lot longer than Homo sapiens have been around. | ||
| Not sure what you're saying. | ||
| Do you mean less than 10,000 years ago? | ||
| Let's just say that in the present day, every year sets a new record for the highest atmospheric CO2 levels. | ||
| We're at levels unseen in recorded history, and in order to know when the last time the atmosphere looked like this, scientists have just had to guess. | ||
| It's very... | ||
| Uncharted waters. | ||
| Well, I mean, I remember somebody said that the Triassic period was marked by massive CO2 expansion, and that's why the plants were so large, which is why dinosaurs were allowed to grow so large. | ||
| There's some theories. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So I am assuming that we are going to become like the dinosaurs. | ||
| Hey, that'll be good for sports. | ||
| Can't argue with that. | ||
| What, do you not want sports to do well? | ||
| I love sports doing well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What Alex is saying is a complete lie. | ||
| Quite literally the opposite of what the consensus view of every credible source I can find says. | ||
| He's not living in reality. | ||
| He's just promoting to his audience a fantasy where the real battle of Armageddon is over regulations on the fossil fuel industry. | ||
| And you really gotta ask yourself, why would someone do that? | ||
| So, I should tell you this. | ||
| I got to about an hour into this show, and it dawned on me that Alex hadn't even referenced Donald Trump's speech at the UN. | ||
| Where, you know, he said that the future doesn't belong to globalists, it belongs to patriots, which is basically him doing Alex's show in front of the UN. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| That seemed really weird to me. | ||
| Because Trump gave his remarks at approximately 9.15am Austin time, so there's legitimately no way Alex should be unaware of that speech by the time he goes on air at 11. It just seemed really strange to me that he's wasting his time rambling about Greta Thunberg and talking about, like, we're going to have Carpe Donctum on to talk about the Donald. | ||
| Like, he's just doing nothing related to what everyone else is concerned about. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's very strange to me. | ||
| Like, I understand that when there's bad news that he doesn't want to cover. | ||
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| But this should be, like... | ||
| Triumphant news. | ||
| It should be, like, we are fucking doing it. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Trump gave the bird. | ||
| To the Secretary General. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, maybe it's because if he played the clip of it, everybody would go, oh my God, is he dying? | ||
| Well, you haven't listened to it. | ||
| And Alex does play the clips the next day. | ||
| He plays them on the 25th. | ||
| But it's so weird to me. | ||
| This is his stock and trade. | ||
| This is his business. | ||
| I hate globalists. | ||
| I love patriots. | ||
| Here's the president saying exactly that at the U.S. Right, but isn't that in and of itself a contradiction? | ||
| Well, no, because you get to present it as like he's going into the den of vipers and he's like a heroic conquering statesman coming in there. | ||
| You can make all sorts of... | ||
| This is the easiest fucking spin for him to make. | ||
| And it's so weird to me. | ||
| It's so weird because there's no indication until quite a ways into this show that he even really has heard it, knows anything about it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| Instead, he spends time complaining more about climate change stuff. | ||
| And telling a almost certainly fake story about his kid's birthday party. | ||
| I have three daughters, and so there's been a lot of birthday parties. | ||
| We usually have over my parents, because my parents have got a big pool. | ||
| At least the daughters that fall in the summer. | ||
| Which is two of them. | ||
| This is a great story. | ||
| And there'll be all these mothers there. | ||
| And they'll come over and say, you know, I'm really kind of a liberal, but... | ||
| My daughter comes home and cries when she drives by and sees a new house being built. | ||
| She's taking the animals, the bugs, the bunnies are dying. | ||
| She feels really guilty and says she wants to die. | ||
| And so I kind of hear what you're saying is right now, and then the daughter swims over and goes, look at my toy turtle! | ||
| I mean, that's a true story, and I hear those constantly. | ||
| That's a true story. | ||
| You wouldn't have needed to say it was a true story if it was a true story. | ||
| But that explains, like on our last episode, he was talking about middle schoolers wanting to kill them. | ||
| So that's clearly what he has to back that up. | ||
| An apocryphal story about a mother at a pool party. | ||
| That almost certainly didn't happen. | ||
| Almost certainly. | ||
| Also, if a middle schooler is swimming up and being like, look at my toy turtle, that's a problem. | ||
| That is a problem. | ||
| I think there are some holes in the story, Dan. | ||
| Yeah, maybe a few. | ||
| I think there might be a few. | ||
| Maybe a few. | ||
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What liberal mom is going to Alex Jones' parents' house? | |
| Even if your kid was best friends with Alex Jones' kids, you're not going there. | ||
| I mean, you might, just because it's unsafe. | ||
| You might assume it's unsafe otherwise. | ||
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Oh, that's fair. | |
| That's fair. | ||
| But then you're... | ||
| I don't even know what this conversation... | ||
| I don't even want to try and decode what the reality of this conversation might be. | ||
| What kind of polite conversation Alex is misinterpreting here. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Whatever. | ||
| So Alex gets around to complaining some more about Greta Thunberg. | ||
| And this is great, because this is production value on full display. | ||
| So let's go ahead and roll the video and the audio of just the brief exchange where Trump comes walking into the U.N. right after she gives this end-of-the-world rant and says, We are watching you! | ||
| You will pay! | ||
| Give control to central banks of all oil, all production, tax everything! | ||
| Oh, you will pay! | ||
| This is her looking at Trump. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Absolutely amazing. | ||
| That was amazing. | ||
| Yeah, we're slowing that down. | ||
| Radio listeners can't see this, but you need to see it for yourself. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| He can hear it, but we can't. | ||
| No. | ||
| Or he's just playing a silent video on his show. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Which really is like, do you even care about doing a radio show? | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Yeah, there's a reason I don't think we've ever played a video on this. | ||
| And I know Alex is like, I'm on all these TV stations. | ||
| Yeah, I know Tom Papert runs your show. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But still, you should think about the format of what you're doing and not play silent videos on a radio show. | ||
| It's clunky. | ||
| And just to demonstrate, we're going to play a wonderful Buster Keaton short right now. | ||
| Everybody stay tuned. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, you know, there's conversation even on the 24th that's going around about impeachment. | ||
| Of Trump. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| People are starting to throw this around. | ||
| People are having the conversation, being like, we gotta do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What are we gonna do? | ||
| And I think, and I get the sense pretty strongly, that Alex is going to curtail the subject of actual impeachment, so he doesn't have to deal with any of the murkier issues. | ||
| Right. | ||
| By changing the conversation a little. | ||
| That's a smart move. | ||
| I would say so. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the news is moving so fast, the globalists, the left, are all over the place calling for Trump's impeachment. | ||
| And his execution, including the former governor of Massachusetts, Bill Weld. | ||
| We're going to play that clip coming up next segment. | ||
| I'm going to open the phones up. | ||
| So, Governor Weld was on Morning Joe, and he said... | ||
| It's nothing short of treason! | ||
| We all know what happens to traitors. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| It was along those lines. | ||
| And now Alex has turned that into they're calling for the assassination of Trump, his execution. | ||
| Hey, if a Republican wants to call for the assassination of Trump... | ||
| Listen, it's not my job to say no. | ||
| It makes for an interesting primary. | ||
| The GOP has their own rules now. | ||
| So by this point in the show, we're a ways in, probably like an hour, hour and a half into the show, Alex starts talking about the UN speech, but he still doesn't really bring up the globalist patriot thing. | ||
| Instead, he has this to say. | ||
| I get irritated with Trump because I want to fight the globalists harder, and I see how criminal they are and how they've gotten away with it, but man, no president. | ||
| In 50-something years, he's given a speech about religious persecution at the UN, and he's put laws in place where churches can talk about their political views and talk about abortion and the Second Amendment. | ||
| So he's reinforced the First Amendment. | ||
| I mean, he's just done a lot. | ||
| He's done a lot. | ||
| Alex is making shit up. | ||
| Well, you don't get to say that! | ||
| Does he actually expect people to believe that Trump is the first U.S. president in like 50 years to talk about religious persecution at the U.N.? | ||
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He's not even the first president since he became president to do that! | |
| It's total bullshit. | ||
| All you have to do is go back to Obama's final address to the U.N. in September 2016, and Alex is already wrong. | ||
| From that speech, quote, I do not believe progress is possible if our desire to preserve our identities gives way to an impulse to dehumanize or dominate another group. | ||
| If our religion leads us to persecute those of another faith, if we jail or beat people who are gay, if our traditions lead us to prevent girls from going to school, if we discriminate on the basis of race or tribe or ethnicity, then the fragile bonds of civilization will fray. | ||
| Right, okay, you mistook that for a speech about religious persecution. | ||
| You're mistaking a speech against religious persecution. | ||
| He said if our religion leads us to persecute those of another faith, civilization will fray. | ||
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Right. | |
| Alex is talking about a speech for religious persecution. | ||
| Let me read a little more of Obama's speech. | ||
| So Trump would like to persecute people religiously. | ||
| Obama went on to say, quote, If you do literally any research into this, like literally any, you'll find tons of instances of pretty much every president decrying religious persecution when addressing the UN. | ||
| But you hit the nail on the head, Jordan. | ||
| Alex. | ||
| He isn't talking about decrying religious persecution, especially not as a universal issue that needs to be dealt with. | ||
| He's praising Trump for validating his bullshit narratives about his version of right-wing Christianity being under attack. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| This isn't about having a president who respects religious freedom. | ||
| It's about celebrating having a president who's far more interested in the freedom of Christians than in all other religions or non-religious folk. | ||
| And preferably at the expense of all other religions and non-religious folk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This honestly couldn't be more transparent, which is why Alex can still feel like he's correct when he says no president has ever talked about religious oppression at the UN. | ||
| All those other presidents were talking about all religions, which isn't religious freedom to someone like Alex. | ||
| Alex is focusing on this aspect, though, not really even highlighting the fact that basically Trump's repeated Alex's biggest talking points in front of the UN, which, again, I don't understand. | ||
| Yeah, it's like if Alex was like, hey, not since Woodrow Wilson has somebody given such a speech on racial equality. | ||
| And you're like, mm, okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he still is operating off of, like, all right, I expected to do this show based on the talking points from Tucker last night. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This speech was a bit of a curveball in the morning. | ||
| Let's see where it lands. | ||
| Let me feel it out on air before I go too far with it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let me have my interns listen to it and make sure he didn't say psych at the end or something. | ||
| I don't know what it is, but it's got to be something like that. | ||
| I've been burned too many times before. | ||
| He said he was a globalist, and now he's saying that then is the future not going to belong to him? | ||
| Well, he was a globalist and a nationalist. | ||
| No! | ||
| But the focus is very largely on Greta Thunberg. | ||
| Because, again, that's what everyone needs to talk about. | ||
| That's what all the right-wing media has focused and decided to attack, attack, attack. | ||
| Because we're adults. | ||
| And we've come to a point where Alex is now following in the wake of people like Tucker as opposed to being the one who's more extreme than them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now he has to wait, follow their lead, and make whatever they're saying more fucked up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's not even a really good game for him anymore because there's plenty of other websites that do that. | ||
| There's a whole fucking cottage industry. | ||
| You can get fucking... | ||
| Scaramucci will record a video and send it to you for $100 of doing whatever bullshit. | ||
| We've got to get Scaramucci on the show. | ||
| Oh, hell yeah. | ||
| So Alex complains in a bunch of little different ways here about Greta. | ||
| And I think that there's one piece of this that's interesting, one piece that's sad, and another piece that's even sadder on a pettiness level. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So Greta Thunberg has been rejected in Germany. | ||
| She's very unpopular in Europe, but they force-feed her as this youth believing. | ||
| It will make the youth suddenly hate their parents and get in their faces. | ||
| And she's got Antifa parents. | ||
| She's an Antifa member. | ||
| We've got the photos and all the admissions. | ||
| She's there being run by the Soros organization when she was at the UN. | ||
| And Trump shows up while she's sitting there doing a multi-hour long photo op ranting hatefully. | ||
| In fact, here's video shot literally minutes before Trump arrives in the press junket area. | ||
| And steals the show. | ||
| Here she is, threatening everyone. | ||
| We're watching you. | ||
| We're coming after you. | ||
| You're killing all these people. | ||
| Climate change. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He lost the thread there, trying to be like, what's another idea? | ||
| I'll just say climate change. | ||
| Yeah, I'll just say climate change. | ||
| So, the petty part is that last part. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That one wasn't good. | ||
| He's so mad that Trump upstaged her. | ||
| No! | ||
| The sad part is, Alex, he has nothing to base his claims that Greta is not popular in Europe on. | ||
| He's just kind of making that up. | ||
| I don't remember her being rejected by Germany. | ||
| Germany said, nice! | ||
| Did she send a text while she was at the UN, just like, you up? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| And then Germany ghosted her. | ||
| Merkel said no. | ||
| Alex has nothing to substantiate his claim that Greta is being used to make children hate their parents either. | ||
| Nothing in her speech would lead a normal person to the conclusion like that, unless, of course, the parent in question was someone working actively against climate change action who contributes to leaving the youth with a disastrous environment. | ||
| Then maybe she's encouraging this kid to hate their parents. | ||
| Um, Dad? | ||
| Dad, why do you scream all day every day about how climate change is a hoax whenever I know for a fact that it's real and we're all going to die soon? | ||
| It's because of Greta, you piece of shit! | ||
| I mean, I love you, baby. | ||
| Alex is just saying this shit to weave in that whole, like, globalists want to disrupt families narrative anywhere he can. | ||
| The same logic, though, could be turned back around on him. | ||
| He constantly screams about Democrats being literal demons trying to destroy the world and how no one should associate with them. | ||
| So what if you're a 15-year-old Infowars listener whose parents are Democrats? | ||
| Wouldn't that constitute Alex trying to break up your family? | ||
| This is a stupid game to play. | ||
| Yeah, it is a stupid game to play, which is why he's winning at it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Alex is also doing everything in his power to associate Greta with George Soros, which has been a big mission of a lot of the right wing who are grasping at straws, trying to attack her. | ||
| One thing that's been used in service of this is a picture of her posing with Soros. | ||
| But that picture was photoshopped. | ||
| It was actually a picture of her with Al Gore that someone just put Soros' head on Al Gore's body. | ||
| Is Al Gore not good enough for you people anymore? | ||
| It should be good. | ||
| Do we not hate Al Gore enough? | ||
| Alex's version is a little bit more about how Greta has a Soros-linked handler who is obviously writing her speeches for her and coaching her. | ||
| Greta has a handler? | ||
| Who is along with the UN. | ||
| Yeah, that's what he was saying in that clip. | ||
| The Soros operation was handling her at the UN. | ||
| I'm not sure what bullshit website he picked this up from, but ultimately the source goes back to a QAnon Twitter account called Wide Awake QArmy Swiss Division. | ||
| This account posted a collection of images of Greta with what appears to be the same woman, alleged to be Louisa Marie Neubauer, who allegedly works for a company called One Foundation, which has links to Soros. | ||
| Soros runs it. | ||
| Sure, why not? | ||
| Even if all these pictures are the same person, and Neubauer does work for that foundation, this is still super weak as a connection and doesn't do anything to prove that this is Greta's handler. | ||
| In order to gauge the credibility of this source, the QAnon Twitter, I decided to take a look at that account. | ||
| And what do you know? | ||
| I immediately was faced with multiple retweets of things originally posted by Jordan Sather, one of the big figures in the Q movement. | ||
| So this guy's in pretty deep. | ||
| Who's Jordan Sather? | ||
| He's a big QAnon guy on Twitter. | ||
| I do my best to avoid any QAnon shit. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| Anyone who knows what's up will know who that dude is. | ||
| This guy doesn't tweet too much, the Swiss division of the Q Army. | ||
| And his timeline is crowded with QAnon retweets and retweets of people like Paul Joseph Watson and Charlie Kirk. | ||
| I did notice a whole lot of posts that seemed to be suspicious about Greta's hands, though. | ||
| Some were about the size of her hands, which I'm not sure why. | ||
| That's a conspiracy. | ||
| Others were about how she went sailing and her hands weren't sunburnt. | ||
| It's a very strange fascination. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And it reminds me a ton of the obsession that online idiots had after Sandy Hook about earlobe shapes and how earlobes proved that people were crisis actors. | ||
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Sure. | |
| That was a really huge thing that went around in message boards, people comparing earlobes. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It was wild. | ||
| Wild times. | ||
| People just don't want to step back and look at how much work they're putting into something and maybe if it's a sign that they're wrong. | ||
| Anyway, the actual thread that this image comes from. | ||
| The image that was used as the source for sites like Big League Politics to report that Greta Thunberg has a Soros handler is nuts. | ||
| This thread is nuts. | ||
| It starts by saying, quote, a quick look at Greta and her Masonic cabal ancestry. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And it includes the hashtag, hashtag QAnon. | ||
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All right. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Mysteriously, that first tweet that starts the thread. | ||
| Isn't cited by big league politics. | ||
| Oh, it's not? | ||
| Yeah, weird. | ||
| Kind of like they don't want people to know that the source they're basing their news on is a random fucking weirdo QAnon Twitter account. | ||
| Hmm, that seems weird. | ||
| I wonder why they do that. | ||
| That seems weird. | ||
| And I wonder why that's consistent through all of the right-wing websites that I found that use this as a source. | ||
| No, but they're serious journalists, right? | ||
| The right-wing is all about serious journalists. | ||
| They hate fake news, right? | ||
| Yeah, why do you not... | ||
| They despise the media that does stuff like, I don't know... | ||
| Hide sources. | ||
| It's weird that you'd include, like, I don't know, tweet number five in a thread when tweet number one has hashtag QAnon and also this is her Masonic Cabal ancestry. | ||
| Seems like that's proper context for the rest of the thread. | ||
| You would think. | ||
| So the thread goes on to accuse her family of being in the Illuminati because some unsourced list of names this guy found includes both Weishaupt and Thunberg. | ||
| Oh, also it includes Clark, Stewart, and Jacobs. | ||
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All of them? | |
| Yeah, I guess if we have any listeners with those last names, congrats. | ||
| You're now in the Illuminati. | ||
| Even our streets are in the Illuminati? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Then the thread gets into a couple pictures of Greta where she has one of her eyes covered. | ||
| In one, it's by a shadow. | ||
| In another, what appears to be a coin. | ||
| In the online conspiracy world, everyone is convinced that anyone who takes a picture with one of their eyes covered is signaling to other Illuminati members that they're part of the group. | ||
| It's one of the older and stupider elements of conspiracy message board shit, and I'm honestly shocked to see that it's still around and anybody takes it seriously. | ||
| But, you know, there's no accounting for Q. I'm fine with that. | ||
| Conspiracy theory, if we're back in the Polaroid days, where it's like, pictures have more intent back then when there aren't as many pictures. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now there's 10 million pictures. | ||
| I could pull up my phone and scroll once and I could get 10 million photos of me with one of my eyes covered. | ||
| This was one of those self-fulfilling kind of things, because people would have pictures with one eye covered and then they'd be accused of being in the Illuminati. | ||
| And then, like, fashion folks and photographers started doing that, almost fucking with people. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| If you sincerely buy into a lot of this stuff, you got... | ||
| Again, much like the earlobes, you gotta check in. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You gotta go talk to somebody. | ||
| Yeah, because that's definitely a thing where if I'm famous and somebody's like, oh, he's got that picture where his eye is covered, he must be in the Illuminati, the next thing I'm doing in one moment is taking a picture with my eye covered. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Instantly. | ||
| I will tell you, I have taken multiple pictures of myself intentionally covering my eye. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| For this exact reason. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why wouldn't you do that? | ||
| This is some, like, legitimately some of the least credible bullshit I've ever seen. | ||
| And anybody who takes this as a source has some real serious... | ||
| Look in your way, big league politics! | ||
| But that, you know, they'd probably call that attacking the messenger. | ||
| So what about this Louisa Marie Neubauer? | ||
| What about her? | ||
| Is she a Soros handler? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Does she work for Big League Chew? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| She's a 23-year-old climate activist who apparently has been at protests and events sometimes with Greta Thunberg. | ||
| And to that I say, so fucking what? | ||
| They're both involved in the same movement. | ||
| It makes total sense that they would be compatriots and possibly become friends and work together. | ||
| As for her working for the One Foundation, I found no solid sourcing on that outside of this tweet. | ||
| Keanu Reeves. | ||
| Which got like 5,000 retweets and served as the basis for all of this right-wing reporting. | ||
| I hate these people so much. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I found Louisa's LinkedIn page, and it has been updated recently, so you would probably assume that most of it's current. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| On it, you can find stints of her working at a group called Y7 Climate Delegation, freelancing for the Huffington Post, and some other jobs. | ||
| If you scroll down far enough, you'll find that she volunteers with an organization called One.org as a youth ambassador. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| One.org is not a climate change organization. | ||
| It's geared at eliminating extreme poverty, particularly in sub-Saharan Africa. | ||
| Whatever volunteer work she did with One likely has nothing to do with being at climate rallies with Greta, let alone being her handler. | ||
| It seems completely unrelated. | ||
| I see no proof that there's any connection. | ||
| The Board of Directors at One.org is public, and Bono's in there. | ||
| Former Senator Kelly Ayotte is in there, but suspicious in his absence, George Soros. | ||
| I didn't even know that, and I could say it right there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One.org has their tax documents available for public review, and Louisa is not a paid employee of their organization. | ||
| I can confirm that. | ||
| I've reviewed their financial documents, and I see no evidence of Soros' heavy hand in the One Foundation, which isn't even their name, as the tweet referred to them, though. | ||
| It's just one action. | ||
| It's possible that he donated some money to them? | ||
| I would say that, sure. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Don't care. | ||
| I could see that, but that doesn't prove he controls the organization and is running Louisa as a handler to get Greta to do his bidding. | ||
| Why is it that so many stories that become accepted fact within the conservative right-wing circles are based on one asshole tweeting something that isn't true? | ||
| Well, because there is... | ||
| There's so many. | ||
| Well, there's a tiny wrinkle to this that makes it look more real than what I've described here. | ||
| This is a lot of the basis of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I was able to find one website... | ||
| called Europe Reloaded that has a slightly better bit of evidence. | ||
| Wait, so we're talking about one.org and Europe Reloaded? | ||
| This is all a front for the Wachowski brothers, right? | ||
| Or sisters. | ||
| Wachowski siblings. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I don't know, possibly, but on that website, the author linked a page, to a page on the Gates Foundation website about one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In that post. | ||
| The Gates of Zion? | ||
| This is all buzz marketing for Matrix 4. For the next one, yeah. | ||
| In that post, it says that Soros was one of many people who provided funding to create an organization called Data, which was an anti-poverty education campaign. | ||
| Within a few years, this group combined with a number of other groups to eventually create one, with the primary funding coming from the Gates Foundation. | ||
| There's no reason to assume from this, or any other information that I can find, that Soros has any involvement other than being an initial funder of an organization that eventually became part of another organization. | ||
| There's no indication that he had anything to do with one outside of his involvement in data, which literally could have just been him writing a check one time. | ||
| Though this is better proof than that QAnon Twitter account, this is still completely failing to prove that Soros has anything to do with this organization. | ||
| Nor does it prove that Louisa has been photographed with Greta because she's a handler working through one foundation. | ||
| All that is completely unfounded bullshit, and it's based on nothing more than an innate hatred of Soros, a couple of out-of-context photos, and an overriding desire to invalidate the words of a 16-year-old girl as not being her own. | ||
| It's an intense showing of weakness, to say the least. | ||
| It's very sad. | ||
| Sad! | ||
| It is kind of amazing that the right is still sticking on with all these people, even after watching them debase themselves so pathetically trying to discredit a 16-year-old girl. | ||
| It is really pathetic. | ||
| I think if we learned anything from the last couple years, it's that there's no consequences. | ||
| There's no consequences for behaving like this. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| And nothing sticks. | ||
| If it did, then Jack Posobiec wouldn't have ever... | ||
| Gotten a job anywhere after his Pizzagate shit. | ||
| Mike Cernovich wouldn't have a career... | ||
| Period. | ||
| Well, I mean, maybe way back. | ||
| And they'd be like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Your name is Mud now. | ||
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You've shown yourself. | |
| But it just doesn't work that way. | ||
| No, it just doesn't, does it? | ||
| You debase yourself, and then people give you a job. | ||
| Because you're slippery. | ||
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God! | |
| Damn it, Dan! | ||
| It should be harder than that! | ||
| It's a bummer. | ||
| So anyway, my point largely is that there is no evidence to any of this stuff that's being floated around about Greta and Soros. | ||
| If you look into where it comes from, nine times out of ten it's going to be that QAnon Twitter account. | ||
| And the other times it's going to just be this... | ||
| It's going to be misrepresentations of one... | ||
| Being made up of a bunch of organizations, one of them being Data, which Soros gave initial funding to. | ||
| And that's fucking thin. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That is thin as shit. | ||
| That's not thin. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| But even despite all that, the youth? | ||
| The youth? | ||
| What's wrong with them? | ||
| They know that Greta's a scam. | ||
| No, they disagree completely. | ||
| They love Greta. | ||
| The youth are really into Greta. | ||
| She's a scam. | ||
| I mean, like, she's really cool. | ||
| She's a scam. | ||
| I'm 32 and she's really cool. | ||
| Scam. | ||
| Okay, never mind. | ||
| You said it often enough that I now believe it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that leads Alex to talking about other scams. | ||
| The young people know what the establishment is. | ||
| They know what the government cheese is. | ||
| They know Greta Thunberg is a mental patient. | ||
| And everyone is rejecting her, but the very weakest-minded people. | ||
| That's why you go to a leftist event, and they look like the Walking Dead and act like the Walking Dead. | ||
| Because these are the pathetic followers, the cannon fodder, the useful idiots, the morons, the smuts, the dupes, the marks, the slobs, the fools, the ignorant idiots, the people that bought the con and keep doubling down on the con forever. | ||
| Is there a mirror in front of them? | ||
| How many of you know someone who bought into one of those speaker scams where you're at the shopping center? | ||
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Don't do it. | |
| Oh, I got these speakers. | ||
| I got to sell them. | ||
| They're really worth $500, but I got to get rid of them. | ||
| I'm willing to sell them to you for $100. | ||
| And you go, that's a scam. | ||
| They get mad at you. | ||
| Well, I've been in parking lots twice. | ||
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Just twice? | |
| Once with some family that's no longer in my family. | ||
| And once with some friends. | ||
| And the person goes, don't listen to him. | ||
| He says, I want you to get a good deal. | ||
| And the person goes, yeah, I'm getting the deal. | ||
| How many people you know bought into the Nigerian scam? | ||
| I know two people. | ||
| Knew it. | ||
| Knew it was coming. | ||
| Actually, three. | ||
| One of them was I knew in business. | ||
| They wouldn't talk to me after they got ripped off by him. | ||
| They thought I called the Nigerians and stopped them from giving them the five mil. | ||
| Why were you in business with this guy who got tricked by the Nigerian scam? | ||
| God's name. | ||
| Also, Alex very clearly got tricked by both the Nigerian scam and he bought some speakers in a parking lot. | ||
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| So that's good to know. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Which do you think came first? | ||
| It's a chicken or the egg situation. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You probably got taken by the Nigerian scam and was trying to make it up. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| He's got a speaker. | ||
| Wow, I just lost all this money on that Nigerian thing, and now here's this deal in front of me? | ||
| I've got to take it. | ||
| I've got to get back to Eden. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So he stops complaining about Greta for a bit, because it's time to talk to the donk. | ||
| So he's going out to break here, and he's talking about the Donald subreddit. | ||
| He's going to have Carpe Donctum come in after the break, I believe. | ||
| This is weird. | ||
| I would say that this is something that a fucked up person says. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And we're talking about the death of the Donald subreddit. | ||
| You know, it's dead. | ||
| It's gone. | ||
| But see, it's like these old crazy guys whose wife died. | ||
| They don't tell anybody. | ||
| He's got their skeleton in the bed and still puts lipstick on him. | ||
| It's kind of like that. | ||
| There's still folks who still got the corpse dolled up in the back. | ||
| And, you know, they still go in there sometimes on a moonlit night. | ||
| Ignore the smell and climb on top of it. | ||
| But the Donald subreddit is a dead carcass people have sex with. | ||
| Let me ride back. | ||
| Stay with us. | ||
| I'd like to remind you this is a family show. | ||
| What is he even trying to say? | ||
| I'm very lost by that. | ||
| Okay, so the Donald subreddit is a dead horse. | ||
| No, wife. | ||
| Dead spouse. | ||
| Dead spouse. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That people have sex with. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Okay, now... | ||
| That is an insult? | ||
| It's not positive. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Don't ask me this question. | ||
| I have no help for you. | ||
| Okay, so then if that's what it is, though, then it's not hurting anybody. | ||
| Well, there is that angle. | ||
| I want to say this very clearly. | ||
| When I was listening to this, I was like, if I were Alex, I would legitimately feel an obligation to immediately, when I come back from break, explain what I meant. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Because that's so fucked up as a way to go out to break. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if that's the sort of metaphor that you come up with when you're trying to describe anything, it kind of implies that that's something that's on the tip of your mind. | ||
| A guy who dresses up his wife's corpse to have sex with it still. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, wasn't that the theme of Tom Petty's Mary Jane music video? | ||
| Was that that? | ||
| I feel like there are other metaphors you could come up with to describe a similar thing. | ||
| Yeah, like Tom Petty's Mary Jane video. | ||
| Or keeping around your old cell phone even though it's dead. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| I don't think that carries the same imagery with it. | ||
| Right, but it's not as fucked up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Anyway, Alex comes back from break and he gets to talking about the donk with the donk. | ||
| And boy, this is crazy. | ||
| They are just talking about... | ||
| It's exactly as I expected and predicted. | ||
| They're just trying to talk shit about the Donald. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Mostly Alex. | ||
| Carpe Donctum is still being a little bit diplomatic. | ||
| But Alex is just trying to drive traffic exclusively over to Carpe Donctum's shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And his way to do it is to completely lie about Reddit. | ||
| That helps. | ||
| And it's a Chinese company that gave the Donald owner, Reddit, all this money in February, millions of dollars. | ||
| So you wonder what's going on. | ||
| The Chai comms are in our elections. | ||
| It's election meddling. | ||
| Tencent, an Internet-based technology and cultural enterprise, Chinese censorship in America, run by the Chinese government. | ||
| They run all their media systems. | ||
| And they're here. | ||
| They don't just own Hollywood. | ||
| So joining us is Carpe Donctum from Meme World. | ||
| Again, the president loves his information, puts it out. | ||
| And I just don't know why we're going to allow the Chi-Coms to come do this, but it's already happened. | ||
| But I'm not trying to toot my horn, but did I not tell you months ago this is how this is going to play out? | ||
| And you agreed, but you had to wait and see. | ||
| You're so polite, you didn't even want to warn people, hey, come over to Meme World. | ||
| And then now it's kind of like, is it all right for us to say Meme World? | ||
| Will we make the Donald Lords, the Chi-Coms that own it, mad? | ||
| I say screw the Chi-Coms. | ||
| Screw them and screw the Donald. | ||
| The dictator of China now runs Reddit. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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I agree. | |
| That's his intro, by the way. | ||
| Good work. | ||
| He's really nailing these intros that are impossible to respond to. | ||
| Man, I really... | ||
| It is really fun to yell at people that don't exist, isn't it? | ||
| Carpe Donctum? | ||
| No, the Chinese... | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The Chi-coms who own McDonald? | ||
| Reddit. | ||
| Man, you get real excited. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're like, ah, I hate them! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, there's a little bit of truth behind this, but it's also a big lie. | ||
| So, in February of this year, the Chinese tech company Tencent invested $150 million in Reddit. | ||
| And, of course, that means that they've taken over Reddit and banned any Trump-positive content. | ||
| Of course, there's a problem, and that is that the quarantining of the Donald didn't happen until four months later, and Reddit was super clear that it was because people on the Donald were constantly posting content that was explicitly advocating for violence. | ||
| But forget about that. | ||
| Forget about it. | ||
| That's nonsense and bullshit and spin. | ||
| It was $150 million in investment from a Chinese company that is dead set to destroy memes and destroy Trump. | ||
| That's what happened here. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Now, I'm not hugely versed on business, but how much is Reddit worth? | ||
| I'm glad you asked. | ||
| $150 million definitely sounds like a lot of money, but consider for a second here that the most recent evaluation of Reddit placed the site as being worth $3 billion. | ||
| If this investment even involves any kind of control over company decisions, buying in for $150 million would be approximately a 5% ownership of the company, which is nowhere near enough to unilaterally direct their actions. | ||
| They have done studies, though, that show that only 5% of the electorate needs to be sufficiently motivated in order to instigate great change over time. | ||
| Sure, 3% did the revolution. | ||
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I don't give a shit. | |
| Also, the dumb-dumb Alex Jones spin on this fails to explain that in the same round of funding where Tencent bought in, Reddit also received an additional $150 million in investments from firms like Sequoia and Fidelity and the rapper Snoop Dogg. | ||
| He also doesn't bring up that the majority shareholder in Reddit is Advanced Publications, and they have been for a long time. | ||
| Advanced Publications is the parent company of Condé Nast, who bought Reddit in 2006, though in 2011, Reddit just became a subsidiary of Advanced Publications. | ||
| The whole time... | ||
| That Alex has loved and praised Reddit. | ||
| The entire time that Donald was spreading its toxic shit, their parent company was the same company that owned the New Yorker, Vanity Fair, GQ, Teen Vogue, and Wired. | ||
| For real, Advanced Publications is a gigantic media conglomerate. | ||
| They own tons of local papers around the country, from Michigan to Alabama to New Jersey. | ||
| They own Pitchfork! | ||
| Which recently gave Lana Del Rey's new album a 9.4. | ||
| Alex agrees with that. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| They're still the majority shareholder. | ||
| That wasn't changed at all by Tencent making an investment in Reddit. | ||
| That's how children think, the way Alex is approaching this. | ||
| Tracing absurdly oversimplified lines of causation where they don't exist. | ||
| Anything to dodge taking responsibility for creating an environment where tons of users felt totally comfortable promoting violence. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| That's probably all that's going on here. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, every time you explain... | ||
| No, it's the Chinese! | ||
| Every time you explain, like, corporations and what they own and how interconnected it all is, you're like, oh, yeah, that's right, capitalism is super bad. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, I don't want any of this. | ||
| Wait, so you're saying that one group also owns this group? | ||
| But that group owns a subset of other groups that are their own independent thing all under the umbrella of this group over here. | ||
| And that group is... | ||
| I regret to inform you there is a lot of that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Capitalism is bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex can go fly a kite with this Chinese-bought Reddit bullshit. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| So stupid. | ||
| And the fact that that happened in February and four months later... | ||
| The quarantine happened. | ||
| You can't trace a causal link between that. | ||
| If it happened immediately after, you still couldn't. | ||
| But you can make a better argument. | ||
| Ah, no, disagree. | ||
| The four months makes it even more obvious that it was them. | ||
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Probably. | |
| Because only a smart company would make them wait four months to make the change. | ||
| A stupid company would do it right away. | ||
| Then it's too obvious. | ||
| My reasoning has been trumped. | ||
| So, Alex, his message largely is that, like, they're trying to get rid of memeing by getting rid of the Donald. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And memes are just cave paintings. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's the most basic form of communication. | ||
| So he gives this rousing speech about how, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| We're going to keep on memeing. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And again, you're a trooper. | ||
| You do a great job. | ||
| You've helped get a lot of people over to memeworld.com so they can keep operating. | ||
| But I know the inside baseball is folks are telling you, hey, you shouldn't even have Meme World. | ||
| You know, just stick with the Donald or do something with us. | ||
| It's just control freaks who don't want to actually produce anything. | ||
| They just want to tell us what to do. | ||
| Well, guess what? | ||
| We're going to keep fighting. | ||
| We're going to keep making memes. | ||
| And we're going to keep posting them like some micro is doing. | ||
| September is almost over. | ||
| Got cut off by the break. | ||
| You hear that? | ||
| We're going to keep doing it at... | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| He didn't even get to plug Meme World, man. | ||
| He didn't even get to. | ||
| Very sad. | ||
| Very sad. | ||
| He is losing all those chops. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he gets cut off by that break after that rousing Braveheart of Meme speech. | ||
| Oh, hell yeah. | ||
| He comes back listening to some real classic jams. | ||
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I'm going to find me a reckless woman. | |
| Raise your blades and dice in her eyes. | ||
| Just a touch of sadness in her fingers. | ||
| Thunder and lightning in her thighs. | ||
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I wonder what he's talking about right there. | |
| This is a family show. | ||
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What? | |
| Did he just say? | ||
| Is Doctum still on hold? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's a family show where we speculate about what thunder and lightning in her thighs means in the highway of men's silver stallion. | ||
| Hold on, but he's not done. | ||
| Waging war on corruption. | ||
| It's Alex Jones. | ||
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And we're gonna ride. | |
| We're gonna ride. | ||
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We're gonna ride. | |
| Riding like the one-eyed jack of diamonds. | ||
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Riding like the one-eyed jack of diamonds with the devil close behind. | |
| We're gonna ride. | ||
| That's not your one-eyed woman. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay, we got the one I owed. | ||
| That is a relief for me that Alex and the Highwaymen weren't talking about the all-seeing eye of the Illuminati. | ||
| It had me worried there for like a little bit. | ||
| I was really kind of concerned that maybe this was an Illuminati show. | ||
| I mean, we did learn that Alex's dad may or may not be a lifelong globalist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| On our last episode. | ||
| Well, the second time they asked, we don't know what happened. | ||
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Right. | |
| We know he said no the first time. | ||
| It's heavily implied he said yes the second time. | ||
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Yes. | |
| I guess. | ||
| I can rest easy now knowing. | ||
| That instead, they were talking about the Norse god Odin. | ||
| This would probably come off as quirky bullshit, where Alex is just trying to flex his completely surface-level knowledge about some arcane subject to impress his audience into thinking he's a religious studies scholar. | ||
| And honestly, that is probably what's going on, if I'm going to be completely honest. | ||
| However, I should point out that increasingly, the religion of choice among white supremacists is centered around Norse gods, and is often called Odinism. | ||
| According to a 2017 report from Public Radio International, there were at least six cases where white supremacists who identified as Odinists were convicted of domestic terror attacks or attempted domestic terror attacks since 2001. | ||
| In his trial, Anders Breivik announced that he was a longtime Odinist, which brought a whole lot of attention to the ideology from really fucked up white identity communities. | ||
| Fun fact, Anders Breivik named his rifle after Odin's spear, his handgun after Thor's hammer, and his car after Odin's horse. | ||
| Anyway, my point here isn't that Alex is talking about Odin because he's an Odinist. | ||
| I'm saying that Alex Jones runs a completely, explicitly white identity-focused radio show where one of his regular guests is a guy who reveres Anders Breivik, which is sort of the place where you might find references to Odin suspicious. | ||
| In other contexts, this comes off as a little bit of trivia. | ||
| In this context, it kind of sounds like it might be a knowing wink. | ||
| But... | ||
| It's probably just Alex being a blowhard. | ||
| Honestly, I don't think that he's signaling to this community, but it doesn't look great. | ||
| Well, what I hear is that the highwaymen are all white nationalists. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| That's what I got out of that. | ||
| You see Chris Christopherson's beard? | ||
| White. | ||
| Are we talking Blade 1 or Blade 3 Chris Christopherson? | ||
| I feel like he's had a white beard since 1963. | ||
| Oh, is that the old man who fell in love with the sea or whatever it is? | ||
| Something. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I bring that up only to be like, this is... | ||
| It's suspicious only because of the show that Alex does. | ||
| It's a completely innocuous thing to point out. | ||
| Like, hey, there is one eye in the ideology that I don't like, but there's also one eyes elsewhere. | ||
| You know, it's completely innocuous. | ||
| But Alex has to understand that he runs a show that is very in line with a lot of white supremacist white identity ideas. | ||
| He has a guest, Vox Dei, who really loves Anders Breivik, who is a longtime Odinist, and put the religion ideology on the map in many ways. | ||
| It's just bad optics. | ||
| Yeah, but also... | ||
| I say as him talking about one eye, funny that it's optics. | ||
| Get the fuck out. | ||
| I shall. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he hates paganists, though. | ||
| He might not hate them as much as you think. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's fair. | ||
| Might just call it Christianity. | ||
| That's actually a really good point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex gets back to talking about how Reddit's owned by the Chinese, and I only play this clip here because it's sort of similar to things he's already said, but it's important because you need to nail down what he's really trying to say. | ||
| Let me announce this the best way I can. | ||
| Did you know that a communist Chinese controlled tech company invested millions of dollars in February of this year in Reddit and within just a month the site was frozen and put in quarantine and now has essentially been shut down. | ||
| He's lying about the timeline, he's lying about the investment, and he's doing that in order to try and get any remnant that he has of that sort of meme-y crowd to move over to Carpe Donctum's stuff. | ||
| Because Alex is associated with Carpe Donctum, and that makes him have more adjacency to where this meme stuff would be happening. | ||
| Is there any direct connection between the two? | ||
| I'm unaware of it, if there is. | ||
| He comes on the show more than... | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I don't think he's an employee or anything. | ||
| No, but I mean, Alex has hit meme world, like, really hard to the point where I'm like, is he hosting meme world? | ||
| Does he have a... | ||
| Not that I can tell. | ||
| I think it's just a case of, like, this would really help promoting. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It would really be a good advertising avenue for me. | ||
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Right. | |
| And if it's under the control of someone who is associated with me, that works better than this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Dying subreddit. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So I think he just wants to get those millions over there, and it's not going to happen, but it's pretty transparent. | ||
| In the words of Jimmy James, that's free advertising, and that's something you just can't buy. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And one of the reasons that I think this is never going to work out is very well encapsulated by this next clip, where Carpe Donctum starts talking about who's creating content for me world. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| This is a wild list. | ||
| MemeWorld.com, the great Ben Garrison's there. | ||
| So many other amazing people are there on the site. | ||
| Tell us about some people that are on MemeWorld, then let's get back into this and what's happened. | ||
| I'll kind of shut up so you can have the floor. | ||
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So we have, as you said, Ben Garrison. | |
| I've talked with the great Mark Dice. | ||
| The great! | ||
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He's agreed to put some kind of exclusive content up. | |
| From time to time. | ||
| Myself, I'm on there as well. | ||
| Mad Liberals, he visited the Oval Office with me. | ||
| I invited him along. | ||
| He is on there. | ||
| We've got a brick suit. | ||
| He's sort of a famous figure at Trump rallies. | ||
| He always wears the wall suit when he goes there. | ||
| If you are listing people and, like, four deep, you've got the guy who wears a wall suit to Trump rallies. | ||
| He's famous. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| You have got the next New York Times on your hands. | ||
| All I hear is the fucking Avengers, Dan. | ||
| That is what I hear. | ||
| Ben Garrison. | ||
| Five of New York's greatest superheroes coming together to put Meme World on the map, baby! | ||
| Ben Garrison, Mark Dice. | ||
| That one guy. | ||
| Someone mad liberal and the guy who wears a fucking wall suit. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| I was listening to that and I'm like, this can't be promoting the site. | ||
| This sounds sad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| At least learn the guy's name. | ||
| No, you don't want to use real names. | ||
| That's doxing. | ||
| Fair, fair. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| So, not too long ago we heard Alex talking about how he wasn't going to exist in a year. | ||
| InfoWars was going to be done in a year. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| 365 days countdown. | ||
| And I'm pretty glad that we approached that with some caution. | ||
| You know, I think that we thought that there was a possibility that he was talking about real stuff, but more likely it was bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the way he talks about his sales right here in this next clip leads me to believe that it was probably bullshit. | ||
| So it's a win-win-win, but I did get myself in a position. | ||
| Where we sell at such small margins and people wait for sales that it's putting me into a pickle. | ||
| So the plan is next year we're not going to do but 40% off as our best sales and the prices are going to stay the same but I just can't do it anymore. | ||
| So he's talking about the sales that they'll have next year which implies that they'll be around next year and that they will have product to sell next year. | ||
| Also, I don't know how good an idea this is to be like... | ||
| We're going to be around, but hey, our sales are not going to be as good. | ||
| I am just going to let you know. | ||
| Next year, you're going to pay more for this. | ||
| Prices are going up. | ||
| They're going up. | ||
| Yeah, I fucked up by selling stuff too cheap. | ||
| That seems unsustainable as an approach. | ||
| Yeah, that one's not good. | ||
| That one's not good. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex yells a bit at Carpe Donctum about how he's lucky that the Chinese haven't killed him yet. | ||
| That is good, because I think we're all lucky that the Chinese haven't killed us yet. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Why not? | |
| The Chi-coms get what they pay for. | ||
| 150 mil bought the Reddit. | ||
| The news all spun it. | ||
| The Chinese government bought the Reddit, and they're saying, you don't have Trump on that. | ||
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There we go. | |
| We run your country, you're dead. | ||
| I mean, they kill people in mass over there. | ||
| It was out in the news this week. | ||
| So you're lucky from the Reddit's owners, Xi Jinping, that you're not dead, son. | ||
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It's true. | |
| I mean, they did buy. | ||
| It's no coincidence that within a month or so of their investment that suddenly a sub that has been under attack for four years suddenly just gets quarantined. | ||
| So, Carpe Donctum has every reason to know that this timeline isn't true. | ||
| He is someone who's involved in the Donald. | ||
| That's why anyone knows who he is, is because of that subreddit. | ||
| He has every reason to know when the investment happened and compare it to when the quarantine came around. | ||
| He knows that it wasn't within a month. | ||
| He's just parroting back Alex's talking points because it makes a better argument. | ||
| And that's not true. | ||
| They are lying. | ||
| Anyway, that's the only reason I played that clip. | ||
| I thought it was to show that Carpe Donctum is an incredible orator who has a just riveting speech pattern. | ||
| I mean, he's so good that he's decided to make memes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex now descends into yelling about the Chinese a bunch. | ||
| It turns out he's made another Asian Dragon video, and we're not going to play that one. | ||
| I'm not going to just keep playing whenever he has. | ||
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Just assume, has another day gone by? | |
| There's a new one of him doing an offensive. | ||
| Is that our new... | ||
| That's the new, like, you've got a face for radio, is it? | ||
| You've got a voice for memes. | ||
| You've got a talent level for memes. | ||
| So, here's Alex complaining a bit about the Chinese. | ||
| But when you read the Washington Post, pull that up, please. | ||
| Xi must crush Trump to save America, is the headline. | ||
| So this is a big headline that he repeats all the time. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I know that it's not true, so I haven't really gone into it, but I just decided, what the fuck, let's talk about it. | ||
| So this is a headline for the Washington Post, and Alex wants the headline to be, quote, she must crush Trump, because Alex wants the perception to be that the mainstream media is begging a foreign leader to destroy Trump. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This serves as market strategy of maligning all non-info wars adjacent media, and, you know, it works. | ||
| However, the actual headline is, quote, Xi's choice, destroy Trump or save him and weaken America. | ||
| This was not a news article. | ||
| It was in the opinion section, which naturally is where Alex takes most of his headlines that he pretends are news articles. | ||
| You know, just go to the opinion section, find something that sounds weird, yell about it. | ||
| Yeah, the industry of opinion sections is entirely about making a click-baity claim. | ||
| Then the other side going, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And then you writing another opinion that's like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And Alex's role in that is on its own a brazen act of manipulation. | ||
| Or a sign that Alex legitimately doesn't understand the difference between journalism and commentary. | ||
| And I would say that either is totally possible. | ||
| Probably both. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| The editorial in question is making the argument that G needs to learn how to use soft power if he's going to maximize his success as a world leader. | ||
| Note. | ||
| A leader, not the leader. | ||
| That's important. | ||
| It runs through how dealing with India, internal dissent, and Hong Kong are all examples that make his leadership style not one that makes China really qualified to be a government that the world looks on with much esteem. | ||
| And that's probably a fair point. | ||
| The stuff about Trump is towards the end of the editorial, and honestly, I think the headline is a bit poorly chosen to reflect the actual article itself. | ||
| What? | ||
| The argument here is that Xi is holding all the cards as it relates to Trump. | ||
| The only move Trump realistically has, or has even tried in terms of their relation, is threatening a trade war. | ||
| And Xi doesn't really care about that nearly as much as Trump does. | ||
| From the article, quote, The Chinese people, 60% of whom spend less than $10 a day, are far more accustomed to economic pain than Trump's Americans, and they have no meaningful right to vote. | ||
| So Xi can probably afford to absorb some economic pain necessary to push the trade war past Election Day. | ||
| It's all presented as the choice between soft and hard power. | ||
| The hard power route would be to crush Trump and force his hand with a trade war that would likely lead to a recession and diminish Trump's chances of being re-elected. | ||
| The soft power route is to make some token concessions that Trump can parade around and act like he's a master negotiator for getting, and, as the article says, quote, graciously spring Trump from the trap he's stepped in. | ||
| This would ultimately weaken our ability to negotiate further, but gives Trump an artificial win, hence, save Trump and weaken America. | ||
| The editorial is not a call for Xi to crush Trump, and you'd only think that if you hadn't read the article, or you have and you know your audience isn't going to. | ||
| Either way, Alex is just completely lying about this shit in order to malign the Washington Post and his mainstream media rivals. | ||
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Yeah, you know, I really love the people who write headlines. | |
| I'm a huge fan of all the really, really accurate headlines we talk about all the time. | ||
| Yeah, it's trouble. | ||
| It's trouble. | ||
| But honestly, the problem solves itself if people just read. | ||
| Like, if they read the articles, the problem of bad headlines kind of solves itself. | ||
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Right. | |
| Now, granted, that's a state of affairs that'll probably never materialize. | ||
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Right. | |
| So it's still a problem. | ||
| It's a problem. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, Alex gets to screaming about how, like, the world is madness, and no one cares that the Chinese bought Reddit. | ||
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I mean, we got other shit going on, man. | |
| To be fair, no one cares that the Chinese bought Reddit because they didn't. | ||
| They didn't. | ||
| But even if they had, man. | ||
| But that's, you know, you're mad that no one cares, but no one cares because the thing didn't happen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So stop being so fucking mad. | ||
| And then Alex turns heel on the American people. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Take that. | ||
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It is. | |
| It's done. | ||
| We kill babies after they're born. | ||
| Nobody cares. | ||
| The Chinese government bought Reddit. | ||
| That's old news. | ||
| No, it's like, oh, so what? | ||
| Everyone loves it because we have emasculated men. | ||
| We have a country of little bitches and grovelers and ass kissers. | ||
| You go out in public and you look at the average American, you're talking about weak, pathetic people, stupid, dumb, devil worshipers. | ||
| Yeah, that's the truth. | ||
| I thought you loved America. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| I mean, well, this is a family show. | ||
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Right. | |
| The normal Americans are devil worshippers. | ||
| Stupid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Unmasculine, pathetic cowards. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is... | ||
| This is not what you... | ||
| This doesn't seem like a guy who likes America much. | ||
| You know, it sure has seemed like that for the entire time that we've been talking about him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He really doesn't like that whole America that is. | ||
| No. | ||
| He really, really hates that constitution. | ||
| Despises it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he really loves the one that's in his head that he would like to impose upon everybody else without their permission. | ||
| That is very light. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, he loves America. | ||
| Asterisk. | ||
| The one in his brain that nobody else is aware of. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, you might have noticed that a lot of this show has been about climate change and yelling about Greta Thunberg. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Now, that... | ||
| With a little dunk in the way. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which was a good diversion. | ||
| But now we need to get back to the pressing issue of climate change. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And in order to do that, Alex is like, Greta doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about. | ||
| But I know a guy who does. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Christopher Monckton is the leading expert. | ||
| I would say I have everybody out there, even Mark Moreno, who's advised Congress, of course, on the fraud of the carbon tax and all of it. | ||
| And they're screeching and squawking and abuse of the children, trying to tell them the world's ending. | ||
| So we got Lord Moncton coming in. | ||
| We're not going to listen to much of him because I can't stand that fucking dude. | ||
| Yeah, because I still have some hair left and you would prefer not to watch me rip it out in front of you. | ||
| But I did like that he's like, Lord Moncton knows more than Mark Moreno. | ||
| I'm like, that's going to piss off Jordan. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Well, I mean, not because he's putting him over Mark Moreno, but just because his name came up. | ||
| Oh, just... | ||
| I was like, I thought you were talking about the comparison. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I was going to be like, Moreno's my asshole. | ||
| He's the one who knows less. | ||
| Just any reference would piss you off. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So the reason that Alex has Monkton on is because... | ||
| I guess Lord Moncton has branded himself a Greta Thunberg expert. | ||
| Alex says it multiple times, and he does not seem to be an expert. | ||
| He just seems like a dick. | ||
| But before their interview gets going, Alex has some breaking news. | ||
| Now, we had you on today, very well said, Lord Moncton, to get into Greta Thunberg, who you're quite the expert on. | ||
| This is breaking news on Infowars.com. | ||
| Greta parents reported to child services in Sweden. | ||
| This morning. | ||
| So that's going on. | ||
| Earlier today, a private person posted pictures of her concern about Greta Thunberg for child abuse of the parents. | ||
| The report was allegedly sent out of the district administrator for Stockholm and is being taken very seriously. | ||
| I'd say she has Stockholm Syndrome. | ||
| Named after Stockholm Europe. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| So, InfoWars has this breaking news article about Greta's parents being reported anonymously for child abuse. | ||
| I was able to find that article on InfoWars.com. | ||
| I'm going to give you a couple clues who the source is on this, and you cannot guess until I read all three clues. | ||
| Okay, okay, okay. | ||
| First clue. | ||
| He's taken responsibility for 9-11. | ||
| Two. | ||
| There aren't too many of those! | ||
| We've got more than one, Dan! | ||
| Two. | ||
| He invented a fake religion around the Matrix movies. | ||
| We've got more than one! | ||
| Three, he's been recognized as Jesus Christ by both the Jews and the Vatican. | ||
| Okay, well then in that case, I know who it is. | ||
| That's Leo Zagami. | ||
| That's Leo Zagami. | ||
| Alex is peddling complete bullshit from Leo Zagami as something that's real, all in the name of smearing and delegitimizing this teenager, all while he's getting ready to interview a 67-year-old fraud who pretends to be a member of the House of Lords. | ||
| This is some shameful shit. | ||
| This is a... | ||
| Like, again, much like that, hey, we're gonna do Black Friday sale two months early. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You can't parody this. | ||
| You can't make it up. | ||
| He's about to... | ||
| To interview Lord Moncton to complain about Greta Thunberg, and he has breaking news from Leo fucking Zagami. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Like, what are you going to do? | ||
| That's a mad live. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| We're past that. | ||
| We're past the looking glass, and Alice is now looking at us going like, where the fuck did you guys go? | ||
| It's a full court press against Greta, and all I can hear is that these dudes are super afraid of her. | ||
| Oh, they're terrified of a 16-year-old girl. | ||
| That's legitimately all I hear. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| So, we get to the end of it, and Alex doesn't, the 24th, and Alex doesn't really talk in any substantial way about Trump saying that, you know, the globalist patriots thing at the UN. | ||
| He's deflected a little bit in other episodes about Ukraine stuff, and he's like, ah, it's just bullshit. | ||
| But not the newer developments of it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I just was listening to this. | ||
| That was an unsubstantial show. | ||
| He got the memo that he needs to talk about Greta Thunberg, so he corrected his climate coverage from the 23rd by bringing her into the conversation. | ||
| And then he just yelled with Carpe Doctum about the Chinese buying Reddit. | ||
| It's a very weird show. | ||
| I was like, that is unsatisfying for anyone. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If you're expecting to hear Alex's take on these big news items, you did not get it on the 24th. | ||
| No, what you got was Moncton. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, there you go. | ||
| Moncton, Zagami, Donk. | ||
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Yep, yep. | |
| The three horsemen of the fuckpocalypse. | ||
| And, of course, the guy who wears a wall suit to Trump rallies. | ||
| Who is really good. | ||
| So we get to the 25th, and Alex does get into touching on the situation with Ukraine. | ||
| For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. | ||
| We have a new giant hoax with the total proof, with the declassified transcript of the phone call, that President Trump did not offer pro quo, where he offered someone something so you get something back. | ||
| He said, I want you to buy U.S. weapons and do us a favor. | ||
| In the 30-minute conversation. | ||
| And later, he says, man, I heard about Biden and how he brags on television that he ordered them not to investigate his son or he'd take a billion dollars away. | ||
| That was the crime at the CFR. | ||
| We're going to play a clip of that in a moment. | ||
| We'll get into the specifics of this a little bit later, but just so you know, Alex is going hoax on this one. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| Alex is the very person who we first, in 2015, when he's saying, He's mobbed up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's mobbed up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex, you know full fucking well what a mobbed up person talks like when they are extorting somebody, and it's like what he talked like! | ||
| It's how that memo of the transcript sounds. | ||
| It's exactly how it sounds. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Alex should have trusted his first instincts on Trump, for sure. | ||
| Man, what a weird alternate timeline. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we'll get back to that, like I said, in much greater depth as this episode goes along, but... | ||
| Jordan, this next clip is what I texted you about. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I texted you last night and I told you I found perhaps the most fucked up clip that I've ever heard on this show. | ||
| Smalley Pirates is definitely in the running. | ||
| That's up there. | ||
| The one where he talked about being on RT and then it being intelligence people who are trying to ask him, whoa, do you work for the government? | ||
| Yeah, that was pretty wild. | ||
| That was weird. | ||
| That was weird. | ||
| But this one is definitely up there. | ||
| Mic down for this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because this is crazy. | ||
| This is only the... | ||
| Third president that they've actually started an impeachment process on. | ||
| You've got, what, Jefferson? | ||
| Davis? | ||
| You've got Clinton? | ||
| And then you've got Trump. | ||
| That is mind-blowing. | ||
| So, Jordan, look, there are red flags, and then there are red flags. | ||
| When a supposed scholar on U.S. history thinks that the three presidents who have been impeached or had proceedings opened up on them are Clinton, Trump, and Jefferson Davis, you have a real severe problem on your hands. | ||
| Like, for one... | ||
| The list is actually Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton for those who have been impeached. | ||
| For two, even that list is leaving off James Buchanan, who had an inquiry open but was never impeached. | ||
| But most importantly, Jefferson Davis was not a president of the United States. | ||
| He was the president of the Confederacy. | ||
| Yes, but no one has ever been impeached quite as hard as Jefferson Davis was. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, there's impeachment, and then there's... | ||
| Destroying a country impeachment. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| He got impeached to the wall. | ||
| That, like, very well might be the biggest Freudian slip I've ever fucking heard in my life. | ||
| Yeah, no shit. | ||
| That is insane. | ||
| That is bananas. | ||
| Because that means to me, first of all, that Alex compartmentalizes Jefferson Davis in the same part of his brain as U.S. presidents. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Which is not good. | ||
| Nope, same spot. | ||
| Same little box. | ||
| Also, it means he's really fucking stupid because he forgot about Nixon. | ||
| Nixon wasn't impeached. | ||
| Yes, he was. | ||
| No, he resigned. | ||
| Well, they started the proceedings, the inquiries. | ||
| Oh, is that what he's... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's not talking about the actual impeachment process. | ||
| No. | ||
| Nixon had the articles of impeachment brought to the House. | ||
| Ah, I gotcha. | ||
| That still qualifies in the list of things I was talking about. | ||
| Bringing proceedings. | ||
| The point is, these are big... | ||
| Things that he should remember. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And he does not. | ||
| He thinks of Jefferson Davis. | ||
| Considering the time when Andrew Johnson and Jefferson Davis were contemporaries, so it kind of seems obvious which one he... | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| He thinks that America during the time of Jefferson Davis was an illegitimate America and thus shouldn't count in our fucking history. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jefferson Davis, just the president of the Confederacy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think Alex is... | ||
| I would say he was... | ||
| I will give him this. | ||
| He was the best president that the Confederacy ever had. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| He was the only one. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| He was also the worst, but he was really good. | ||
| And I want to play this. | ||
| I want to play you this clip just to show you that he doesn't correct himself. | ||
| Because you would think if he said that, he would then be like, I fucked up. | ||
| I completely fucked up. | ||
| He does not. | ||
| You've got, what, Jefferson? | ||
| Davis. | ||
| You've got Clinton. | ||
| And then you've got Trump. | ||
| So the proceedings have been started. | ||
| Will it ever get to a full vote in the House? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Not now, but the next round. | ||
| They're just getting everybody used to this right now. | ||
| Now Trump's approval rating went up when he did this. | ||
| So he doesn't seem to even recognize that he said that Jefferson Davis was the president of the United States who got impeached, which is really fucking troubling. | ||
| It was really funny. | ||
| It fucked me up because originally I thought it was going to be hilarious that he was going to say that he meant Thomas Jefferson. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And that he was even dumber than possible. | ||
| But never, in my wildest dreams, would I have come up with Jefferson Davis. | ||
| And now, in retrospect, it seems so obvious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| According to 538, Trump's numbers did appear to make a little tick upwards in the recent days, but he's still looking at a net 10 negative approval rating, which is not ideal. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| But I just want to say that Alex is right. | ||
| His numbers did go up. | ||
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| No, I understand. | ||
| I think in the larger context, though, that is not just not something that I don't care about, but something that is actively harmful if you care. | ||
| If you care about his fucking approval ratings in the context of a criminal trial... | ||
| I don't care whether or not the fucking jury likes the defendant. | ||
| The problem is the crime. | ||
| You're not judging based on whether or not you approve of the job that the guy did. | ||
| You're judging based on whether or not he committed the fucking crimes. | ||
| And he did! | ||
| Seems that way. | ||
| But Alex doesn't think so. | ||
| It's a setup, man. | ||
| He already said it was a hoax. | ||
| And here's why that hoax is happening. | ||
| The deep state is making its move right now against our free society. | ||
| This is a major quickening, and you saw that incredible speech at the United Nations yesterday by the president. | ||
| We're going to be going over today. | ||
| That's why the system's coming after him, because multinational corporations got control of the U.S. and parlayed our military and economic power into building their corporate world government. | ||
| So it's retaliation. | ||
| This is all just retaliation for Trump's speech, which doesn't make sense since the stuff started to come out before the speech. | ||
| And Alex didn't seem to care much about that speech yesterday, but I guess he's seen it by now. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So now he's aware of it. | ||
| Right, but what about how Trump released the memo himself, though? | ||
| That wasn't the deep state. | ||
| He was the one who said that he wants to release this memo. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| The one that clearly shows him committing a crime. | ||
| Certainly heavily implies it. | ||
| How is that the deep state, though? | ||
| Well, because the deep state... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But actually, Alex does have a theory about the memo. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I want to hear that. | ||
| Well, we'll get to it in a little bit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But before we get to that, Alex, so recently there was a bit of news about people, a warning. | ||
| That there might be a shooting at the premiere of the Joker movie. | ||
| Yes, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The Aurora Theater would not show it, if I recall correctly. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. | ||
| I didn't see that, but that wouldn't surprise me too much. | ||
| Alex believes that this is the globalists signaling that they're going to do a false flag at this movie. | ||
| And he talks about this a little bit, and he does something really interesting that I think is worth pointing out. | ||
| We've got a president in with a beachhead who's getting the economy back, getting the love of the nation back, stabilizing things, and they are desperate to crash the economy openly and desperate to start a civil war. | ||
| And now the Pentagon issues an emergency alert. | ||
| It's going up on Infowars.com right now. | ||
| That they believe Incel Antifa is going to do mass shootings at theaters and that Joker is designed to do it. | ||
| Of course it is! | ||
| So that's his take on it. | ||
| Incel Antifa. | ||
| I didn't know that they were cross-pollinating these days. | ||
| Apparently so. | ||
| I know one of them is a non-existent, loosely affiliated group of people that are demonized by the right. | ||
| And then the other one is a bunch of racist fuckwits. | ||
| Ah, you're gonna get shot by an incel. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| So, obviously, I hope there are never, ever shootings anywhere. | ||
| That said, I particularly hope that there aren't any shootings and any screenings of the Joker, because if there are, Alex is gonna lose it and declare himself a prophet. | ||
| The army did release a warning to service people that they had picked up chatter from the dark web about shooting and screening of the Joker relating to incel communities. | ||
| A spokesman who spoke to Gizmodo said that these sorts of alerts are a pretty common thing, and that it was basically just an email that got sent out, not any kind of dire warning or any specific threat that anyone could take action on. | ||
| They just advised vigilance. | ||
| There's nothing in that Army's email or FBI's statement on the dark web chatter that would lead anyone to believe that this has anything to do with anti-fascists. | ||
| This is specifically about incel groups, but what Alex is doing is he's trying to make a compound epithet in order to associate incels with Antifa in his audience's mind. | ||
| He does this regularly in order to demonize groups that he's opposed to, most notably with his attempts to make the LGBTQP thing work, trying to reflect his completely erroneous claim that the This is the level of shit that Alex is working with these days. | ||
| Just trying to create epithets to demonize groups. | ||
| Just linguistically. | ||
| It's really pathetic. | ||
| It's a sign of... | ||
| Not really having much gas left in the tank. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm just confused as to why he thinks that would be a good idea, considering the incel community would care far more than the, quote, Antifa. | ||
| Because at this point, like anybody who gives a shit is going to give a shit about what the right wing says about Antifa. | ||
| But the incels... | ||
| Are far more likely to support Alex. | ||
| They're on his team. | ||
| There might be some of them in the Donald. | ||
| You know, there's some. | ||
| There's so many. | ||
| That community is like for him. | ||
| Why is he maligning them? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Because they would be maligned by being compared to or, you know. | ||
| Because Alex couldn't handle having them as his fans. | ||
| They're not masculine enough. | ||
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| You know, they don't ascribe to his ideas about virility and the need to reproduce. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So central to what he wants his people to be. | ||
| Yeah, now that you say that, I can see that. | ||
| He doesn't give a fuck about alienating them. | ||
| But it's still just dumb. | ||
| This is all stupid. | ||
| So Alex finally, after, I don't know, I would say probably about a half hour or so, realizes that he said that Jefferson Davis was the president of the United States. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And he comes back to that. | ||
| Fourth impeachment in U.S. history. | ||
| Technically, two people have been impeached. | ||
| Two others have had proceedings began against them, and that fourth one is Trump. | ||
| So we're going to be looking at all of that, Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton, and others. | ||
| I said Jeff Davis for some reason. | ||
| That's the Confederate president for some reason. | ||
| I'm teleprompter-free, folks, so sometimes it comes out wrong, but not on purpose. | ||
| He said it for some reason. | ||
| For some reason. | ||
| Just for some reason. | ||
| That's hilarious that he would even say not on purpose. | ||
| For some reason, not on purpose. | ||
| That's worse. | ||
| I didn't mean to tell you what's going on in my brain and that's all Confederate shit. | ||
| I didn't mean to do that whatsoever. | ||
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That's worse. | |
| That was not on purpose. | ||
| It was a completely muscle memory reaction that I deeply internalized the President of the Confederacy as being part of the lineage of the United States Presidents. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Alex. | ||
| Oh boy, Alex. | ||
| That is great. | ||
| So, I promised you we would get to Alex's take on the memo, the whole Ukraine situation. | ||
| What do we got? | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| You know Trump shit the Democrats up, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Now Trump wants the whistleblower to testify before Congress. | ||
| It'll all be an excuse to bring out Joe Biden publicly saying he committed massive crimes. | ||
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| A $4 billion company turned over to his son. | ||
| Millions paid to his son, but that's nothing. | ||
| The shareholders transferred partial ownership to a new board of directors with top Democrats sitting on the board. | ||
| And so, oh, this whistleblower puts in the complaint. | ||
| Then the head of national intelligence says that's not a legitimate complaint. | ||
| Nothing along was done. | ||
| The Democrats go crazy. | ||
| Trump says, I'm not going to release it. | ||
| Please don't throw me in the briar patch. | ||
| They throw Briar Rabbit, who lives in the briar patch, into the briar patch. | ||
| This is not level four chess. | ||
| This is just the ways you set people up. | ||
| What a shock that the reference that he comes up with to describe this situation is from The Song of the South. | ||
| Now, generally, I would give it a pass, and I would say, like, maybe he went to Splash Mountain or something like that. | ||
| But he just said that Jefferson Davis was a president of the United States. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I've heard David Knight talk at length about his fondness for Song of the South, so I have some questions. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, boy, that's not good. | ||
| No, it's boring and offensive. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, you know, after work, they both go see a minstrel show every night, so, you know. | ||
| Song of the South is not racist. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Thanks, David. | ||
| So, Alex's conspiracy theory here is that Trump was playing games, trying to get this whistleblower to testify, which had opened the door to talk about the Biden family's involvement in Ukraine and Joe Biden's involvement in the firing of Ukraine's former chief prosecutor, Viktor Shokin. | ||
| The main problem with this theory is that all that information is already very public. | ||
| James Rison wrote a story about Joe's son, Hunter, being involved in a sketchy business in Ukraine in 2015 in the New York Times. | ||
| And in May 2019, right-wing sites were already aggressively circulating the accusation that Joe had gotten the prosecutor fired in order to bail out Hunter, who was involved in a sketchy business in Ukraine. | ||
| The idea that Trump needs a whistleblower to testify in order to get this information into the open is fucking absurd. | ||
| It just makes no sense. | ||
| Alex's main piece of evidence that he plays to back up this claim, that this is secretly all about Biden, is a clip of Biden saying that he threatened to withhold a billion dollars in aid if they didn't fire Shokin. | ||
| And that is a real clip. | ||
| However, what's missing is context. | ||
| Here are the parts of the story that are true. | ||
| Joe Biden did work to get Victor Shokin fired. | ||
| And Hunter Biden was involved in a sketchy business in Ukraine. | ||
| The rest of this is a right-wing narrative that is completely fabricated. | ||
| Joe Biden is many things, most of them not good. | ||
| But in this case, anti-corruption experts agree that he was in the right to threaten to withhold aid unless Shokin was fired. | ||
| since Shokin was deeply corrupt and was using his office to stall and avert prosecution on very serious cases. | ||
| One of the big prosecutions that Shokin was stymieing was that of Mikola Zoshevsky, who ran Ukraine's biggest independent gas company, Burisma. | ||
| This was a bit of a mess, since Zoshevsky was also Yanukovych's environment and natural resource minister, which you can imagine could introduce some prime opportunities for corrupt dealers. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| So he's the head of the energy conglomerate there, as well as the guy in charge of the environment? | ||
| And natural resources. | ||
| Man, that is crazy. | ||
| What kind of ridiculous, backwards-ass country would ask their fucking regulator to be regulated by the... | ||
| That'd be crazy. | ||
| That'd be fucking... | ||
| What idiots. | ||
| So Shokin would not investigate or prosecute cases like that, which is what Biden demanded in exchange for the delivery of this aid. | ||
| So now, the story in the right-wing media is that Biden got Shokin fired in order to protect his son Hunter, who, like I may have mentioned, was involved in a sketchy business in Ukraine. | ||
| I should probably tell you that the sketchy business in Ukraine that Joe's son was involved in was none other than Burisma, the very company that Joe was insisting Shokin be fired for not investigating. | ||
| The narrative completely falls apart when you realize the actual pieces that were in play, the factors that were involved. | ||
| Now, many people have theorized that Burisma's hiring of Hunter Biden might have been an attempt to shield the company from possible anti-corruption crackdowns, but there's no evidence that that's how things played out in the real world. | ||
| So to sum things up, I'll quote from an article in The Intercept, again written by Ryerson, where he interviewed Daria Kalunik, who is the founder of Ukraine's Anti-Corruption Action Center. | ||
| Quote, what I'm pissed off about is that Shokin, who was totally corrupt, who undermined the reform of prosecution and reformers, and who didn't want to investigate Zoshevsky, now appears in this New York Times article as the hero who wanted to investigate Zoshevsky and Burisma and who suffered because Joe Biden demanded to dismiss him because of his willingness to investigate Burisma, which is absolute nonsense. | ||
| Trump absolutely did not set up Democrats or Biden. | ||
| And if I had any faith left in the process, I would say he's in very serious trouble. | ||
| And this weak shit is the only spin that they have left. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Because you got a lot of really bad looking variables. | ||
| But I've been, you know, we've done this too many times over the course of the last two years for me to be like, ha ha! | ||
| Now, anytime somebody... | ||
| I'm done with people who are like, this would take down any normal president. | ||
| And it's like, no, this would take down a president. | ||
| This cannot take down the fucking criminal terrorist enterprise that the GOP has turned into. | ||
| The president has nothing to do with how corrupt and all... | ||
| Well, he has something to do with it. | ||
| Well, I mean, yeah. | ||
| But he's just the manifestation of all of the... | ||
| Depths to which the GOP has fallen. | ||
| But what's amazing about this is that for the first time, I think this one in particular, what's changed for me is I think there are at least a few very smart people in the GOP power structure who read that transcript and heard that memo and did the whole thing and were like, oh no! | ||
| We tricked ourselves. | ||
| Fuck, now we believe the shit Fox News says? | ||
| No, we were using that to trick the dumb, poor people! | ||
| Now we're believing it? | ||
| Fuck! | ||
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He thinks that Biden, he believes in this shit? | |
| It's a bridge too far, I think, for... | ||
| I hope. | ||
| I hope. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't have a whole lot of faith left. | ||
| I have some. | ||
| A flicker. | ||
| Sliver of it. | ||
| But I hope that it's enough to really jostle out of believing the bullshit line. | ||
| I really hope it is. | ||
| Because it's pretty clear some of the factors that are in play here. | ||
| From the reporting that has come out about... | ||
| And the whistleblower report just got released today. | ||
| Yeah, I read that. | ||
| I read that as well. | ||
| What's in there matches up with reporting that had come out that prior to the phone call that Trump had, With the Ukrainian president, that he had specifically put a hold on aid prior to this phone call. | ||
| Yeah, not after, not during, not a threat, a preliminary, this is our beginning bargaining position. | ||
| Which, it sets the stage for the phone call, and clearly there's messaging that he wants an investigation of Biden and his son and this bullshit. | ||
| All of these things, a reasonable person would look at them and be like, I don't want to draw a conclusion, but there's enough here that really needs to be sorted out. | ||
| This is untoward. | ||
| And if allowed to stand, is just so suspicious. | ||
| Like, you can't... | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I mean, not even the stuff that's suspicious. | ||
| Like, there was a literal violation of the Emoluments Clause. | ||
| In the memo. | ||
| But again, it's a memo. | ||
| The one that they're releasing to prove his innocence. | ||
| It's a memo, not a transcript. | ||
| It's a literal... | ||
| He might not have said that. | ||
| That's entirely possible. | ||
| That might have been a plug that Trump slipped in as... | ||
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Now that would be fourth dimensional chess right there. | |
| The Ukrainian president didn't say that. | ||
| Trump threw it in as his words in order to buzz market Trump hotels. | ||
| That might be true. | ||
| That might also still be against the Emoluments Clause. | ||
| I think so, too. | ||
| No, that was also reading that memo was very much like, is Stevie Peas writing the Ukrainian president's lines here? | ||
| The dialogue on that is so clearly... | ||
| Steve Pachenik, like, literally going like, oh, how do we get him to pay attention? | ||
| We flatter the shit out of him. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| What do we do? | ||
| We lie to him and we tell him all this shit. | ||
| The guy, the president of Ukraine is a fucking comedian who played presidents on TV. | ||
| Of course he can pull that shit off. | ||
| Yeah, it's troubling. | ||
| It's all just real troubling. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| That's my feeling, largely speaking. | ||
| It's the sign that every other country thinks Trump is what we all should if we don't already, which is a fucking pathetic, weak-willed, tiny little baby who, if you stroke his ego for two seconds, will do whatever you want. | ||
| It becomes, yeah, just like a slot machine. | ||
| You get what you want. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| But again, like I was saying, I look at all the available evidence and I see, like, real... | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| A real uh-oh kind of feeling. | ||
| This is dark. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| We have a lot of feelings about this, and a lot of the indications that are coming out aren't good and make it look like there's probably a real bad thing here. | ||
| Oh, there's a shit ton of crimes. | ||
| But Alex is pretty confident that everything's cool. | ||
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Oh, okay, good. | |
| And here's why. | ||
| Trump said last week, you're all so foolish, left. | ||
| Do you think I would ever do anything illegal over the phone? | ||
| Plus, I don't do stuff illegal to begin with. | ||
| I'm a straight-laced guy. | ||
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No. | |
| Straight shooter. | ||
| That's how you don't go to jail. | ||
| It's an old saying, you can't con an honest man. | ||
| You can easily con an honest man. | ||
| Those are the easiest people to con! | ||
| I think all stories of cons are run on honest people. | ||
| It's almost entirely honest people. | ||
| Not all of them. | ||
| Alex has been conned quite a bit. | ||
| You can con an honest man. | ||
| You can con a con man. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The only people you can't con are people who don't want to talk to you at all. | ||
| Right, that's difficult. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex believes that this is all not true because Trump said, I don't commit crimes on the phone. | ||
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Which, even in the fucking whistleblower complaint, it shows that he's committed crimes on the phone before! | |
| Multiple times! | ||
| That government has an entire... | ||
| It's a routine now for them to listen in on a conversation and be like, ooh shit, there's a lot of crimes. | ||
| Let's go put that in the classified database. | ||
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That's... | |
| Crazy! | ||
| He hasn't committed crimes on the phone. | ||
| He said so. | ||
| Case closed. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| So Alex needs to center this around Biden. | ||
| And all this is is projecting onto Trump the crimes that Biden committed so that they could deflect from the fact that he committed those crimes and try and take out Trump. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's all this whole game is. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it's sort of encapsulated in this next clip. | ||
| He's at the Council on Foreign Relations on national television. | ||
| That's Biden. | ||
| Bragging they investigated my son. | ||
| If I told them, if you don't fire that prosecutor, I'm going to cut a billion dollars out of an aid package. | ||
| Now, it's important to point out that in the clip that Alex is talking about, he never says, because you're investigating my son. | ||
| That's Alex's editorial theory. | ||
| Bullshit being applied to the actual quote. | ||
| But he's presenting it to his audience as if that's what Biden said at the CFR. | ||
| Yeah, he didn't really divorce those two, did he? | ||
| No, he didn't. | ||
| And it's almost like he did that on purpose, too. | ||
| I think he did. | ||
| That was half the aid every year to Ukraine. | ||
| Now think about that. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
| Then they turn it around in the media that Trump said, I'm going to withhold aid if you don't rehire that prosecutor. | ||
| But all Trump said is, I heard about this. | ||
| It's a terrible story. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| Can you look into that? | ||
| Well, he'd better be doing stuff like that. | ||
| Oh, I'd hate to see that investigation not be open. | ||
| Oh, that'd be terrible. | ||
| It would be awful if something happened to such a lovely country. | ||
| You know, you need that aid. | ||
| Everybody, and we love giving aid to people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is such bullshit. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Anyway, this next clip, Alex, plays the actual clip of Biden at the Council on Foreign Relations. | ||
| And again, I don't care to defend Joe Biden. | ||
| I'm not into him at all. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| But this is a person who's being unfairly attacked in this case. | ||
| And listen to this clip of him at the CFR and try and find anything necessarily wrong with what he says. | ||
| Here's Biden a year ago on national television. | ||
| And that's what Trump says. | ||
| He says, you know, Biden's bragging about this on TV. | ||
| It's really disturbing. | ||
| Can you look into this? | ||
| I mean, if he wasn't doing that, I'd say this guy's got a problem. | ||
| But instead, he's out there. | ||
| Like a hoss, like a boss, doing exactly what he should be doing. | ||
| Hallelujah! | ||
| And it's got these crooks scared. | ||
| Here is Biden. | ||
| And so I got Ukraine. | ||
| And I remember going over convincing our team, our brothers too, convincing us that we should be providing for loan guarantees. | ||
| And I went over, I guess the... | ||
| 12th, 13th time to Kiev, and I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. | ||
| And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against a state prosecutor, and they didn't. | ||
| So they said they were walking out to the press conference and said, no, we're not going to give you the billion dollars. | ||
| They said, you have no authority. | ||
| You're not the president. | ||
| The president said, I said, call him. | ||
| I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars. | ||
| I said, you're not getting a billion. | ||
| I'm going to be leaving here, and I think it was, what, six hours? | ||
| I looked, I said, I'm leaving in six hours. | ||
| If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money. | ||
| So if you want to know who the enemy is, it's those sycophantic people like Richard N. Haas and the other sitting up there preening, all kissing each other's ass while they preside over the gang rape of America. | ||
| So, there's nothing in there that matches up with Alex's narrative. | ||
| He didn't say in any way that I did this because my son was working at a sketchy company in Ukraine. | ||
| He's not saying that he did it to stall a prosecution. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| That's complete spin and nonsense. | ||
| And specifically, he's saying that they were the ones who forced him... | ||
| The deal was already done. | ||
| He didn't plan on doing any of that. | ||
| That was already negotiated in advance. | ||
| They just changed the deal at the last minute. | ||
| And he went, no! | ||
| That was it. | ||
| Any kind of investigation that's done, which I think is always appropriate if they're done fairly, is going to reflect this. | ||
| This is a Hail Mary desperate attempt to create cover. | ||
| The only reason you do that is if you know you need to cover something. | ||
| And that's probably what's going on. | ||
| Well, this is, I think, that last moment we have for so many people on the Fox News media blitz of, like, this is the when push comes to shove. | ||
| You're holding up a memo of Trump saying, I committed a crime. | ||
| And you are putting it in people's faces and saying, see? | ||
| He didn't commit a crime. | ||
| For people who love to yell about 1984 all the time, it's interesting. | ||
| It's a cliche. | ||
| We live in a cliche, and this is that last moment before it's like, there's no coming back, guys. | ||
| Now you believe whatever the fuck they say. | ||
| If he can put an apple in your fucking mouth and say it's an orange, and you're like, I love this orange, then you're fucked. | ||
| You're done. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| So Alex now gets Barnes on. | ||
| And I will say this. | ||
| Barnes still sucks. | ||
| Good. | ||
| I will also say this. | ||
| Alex has his priorities straight. | ||
| Because he's having Barnes in to talk about how he's suing people. | ||
| And the lawsuits are finally happening. | ||
| But Alex, like I said, has his priorities straight. | ||
| I'm on the edge of my seat. | ||
| Constitutional lawyer, criminal lawyer, First Amendment lawyer, Robert Barnes is with us. | ||
| In studio. | ||
| Next hour. | ||
| Then he's going to host the fourth hour. | ||
| We filed suit on the Young Turks and others today. | ||
| That's very important that we all go on the offense and we had to do it, but it's got to kind of take a little bit of a backseat to the attempted impeachment, that epic speech. | ||
| I mean, this is the real fight for the heart and soul of America. | ||
| I mean, I would say that that's probably an accurate reflection of what you should be covering. | ||
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Your own petty bullshit or the deterioration of our country. | |
| That does... | ||
| I do like that it was... | ||
| Really close. | ||
| It is not a distance. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Like, that was neck-and-neck finish right there between, am I going to talk to Barnes all day about how we're taking the young Turks to court? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or, yeah, yeah, yeah, the world's on fire, whatever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's pretty crazy. | ||
| So, I need to say this really quick, just off the top. | ||
| On the off chance any influential media people listen to our show, which they do not, need to say this. | ||
| Please do not cover these lawsuits. | ||
| As someone who has a pretty good handle on Alex's current situation in life, it's hard not to see these as an attempt at a grand publicity stunt, and further as an attempt to obfuscate his main Sandy Hook lawsuit. | ||
| It's my feeling that people would be wise to leave these cases alone, let them run their course, and not give Alex exactly what he wants, which is tons of coverage of these cases, even if the coverage is mocking him. | ||
| He needs an inflow of people to his site in order to be potential customers. | ||
| No matter how he gets that inflow, he doesn't give a shit, and this stuff reeks. | ||
| Alex sued the Young Turks, Brianna Wu, and Andrew Kimmel on Wednesday, and I've read the complaint. | ||
| My first thought is, man, this thing was written by Robert Barnes. | ||
| Generally, when I read legal filings for this show, they're very dry, really formal and by the book. | ||
| This one is not. | ||
| He let the crowd vote on how he was going to write a newspaper. | ||
| It does include Barnes' big catchphrase a couple times, which is, of course, lies and libels. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| One essential problem with this filing is that Barnes' argument relies on a conspiracy theory. | ||
| From the filing, It's very clear that Barnes is heavily implying coordination. | ||
| Between the people who sent Alex the porn and people suing Alex about Sandy Hook. | ||
| I mean, he put the word discovered in quotes, as if to say there wasn't a real discovery. | ||
| And then the lawyers knew what they'd find because the hackers were their ideological allies. | ||
| Alright, here's how we go. | ||
| Let's roleplay this real quick. | ||
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Alright. | |
| So, here's what happened. | ||
| All these people, shadowy band of hackers, they got together, they snuck child porn onto the computers at the behest of, and I'm not going to say who, but there happens to be another group of people suing Alex involved. | ||
| I'm not saying it's them, I'm just saying they're involved, and it was at their behest. | ||
| Anyways, so... | ||
| It was all of them. | ||
| It was all that. | ||
| We gotta take down the Young Turks. | ||
| This is completely unfounded and unproven. | ||
| This conjecture that he's making. | ||
| No, he doesn't. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And that implication doesn't just pop up once in the filing. | ||
| During the litigation period, InfoWars corporate email accounts were attacked by online cybercriminals ideologically aligned with the defendants, with spyware and malware claiming to be Sandy Hook related emails by including Sandy Hook terms in the emails. | ||
| Hidden and embedded in the emails the hackers sent to various InfoWars email addresses were images and videos of child pornography. | ||
| The emails were never opened by anyone at Infowars. | ||
| The court in the Sandy Hook case required Infowars to turn over any and all emails that included any references to Sandy Hook. | ||
| It appears the hackers who tried to plant the emails on Infowars servers were aware of this discovery process and deliberately used Sandy Hook terms and emails to create a false controversy. | ||
| This seems incredibly speculative as information to be included in your legal filing. | ||
| The basis for framing Alex as a pitiable victim is being laid out as an implication that there's an awareness that this setup existed between the plaintiff's counsel and the hackers, whether formal or not. | ||
| There's this idea that's being presented here, and it's pure speculation that's meant to obfuscate the case. | ||
| As always, I'm no lawyer, but this seems deeply irresponsible as a way to frame your legal complaint. | ||
| So what is he asking? | ||
| What? | ||
| With the lawsuits, what does he want? | ||
| They want a trial against these three defendants, at least. | ||
| The Young Turks, Breonna Wu, and Andrew Kimmel. | ||
| For what? | ||
| For saying that Alex sent child porn to the families. | ||
| Oh, okay, so it's a libel. | ||
| Yeah, it's a defamation. | ||
| Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. | ||
| So now that it's established that Alex is the victim here, what these folks are being sued over is headlines and statements that Alex Jones sent child porn to Sandy Hook families. | ||
| On a purely technical level, that statement doesn't seem to be inaccurate. | ||
| However, Barnes' big move on page three of the filing is to argue that Alex didn't send anything. | ||
| His employer, Infowars, turned over emails to the plaintiff's lawyers, to which I say turned over is the same thing as sent, and Alex Jones is the owner of Infowars. | ||
| So I feel like that argument might be a little thin. | ||
| We are one tiny step away from... | ||
| His name was in all caps, so it's actually the state Alex Jones. | ||
| It's not Alex Alex Jones. | ||
| From what I understand, Barnes might have some sovereign citizen ideas about taxes. | ||
| He's a little sovereign citizen. | ||
| He might be. | ||
| We might expect to hear that. | ||
| We can look forward to him and his meteoric rise, only to be followed shortly after by spending 10 years in jail for tax evasion. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| The only exhibit in the document as evidence. | ||
| is a screenshot of a tweet from the Young Turks linking to a video titled, quote, Alex Jones sent child porn to Sandy Hook parents. | ||
| There are no screenshots of anything related to Breonna Wu nor Andrew Kimmel, but I think there might be another thing in this document that is a gigantic red flag. | ||
| One thing I find particularly troubling is that the defendants listed in the case are the Young Turks, Breonna Wu, and Andrew Kimmel. | ||
| However, in the nature of the action section of the filing, The specific details about the Young Turks and Brianna Wu, what they did, it's explained. | ||
| But there's nothing about Andrew Kimmel. | ||
| There's instead a complaint about Mark Fulman from Mother Jones, who's not listed as a defendant. | ||
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| One gets the sense that Barnes didn't edit this thing, or maybe he meant Mother Jones to be a defendant, or he forgot to put in that part what Andrew Kimmel did. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| It's very confusing and probably not a good sign. | ||
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This lazy motherfucker. | |
| That is sad. | ||
| I think there might be some implication that Andrew Kimmel wrote for Mother Jones, but why is there stuff about somebody else in the nature of the action part when Andrew Kimmel is the defendant? | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| It seems sloppy. | ||
| This is such that same, like, the Republican talking, or the White House talking points were accidentally sent to the Democrats. | ||
| Like, we're in a level of criminal mastermind that is just... | ||
| Absolutely stupid. | ||
| They're all so fucking stupid. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| It's even more of an insult. | ||
| So here's some random thoughts I have about this case that I think it's going to be tough for Alex to win these cases. | ||
| One, in claiming that this is defamation, Barnes tries to argue that this has negatively affected Alex's reputation. | ||
| I think that's going to be insanely hard to prove. | ||
| For one, because Alex's reputation is shit. | ||
| And for two, because Alex, I remember him saying on the air that he was doing better after the porn attack. | ||
| Like how that woke up the audience to show how evil the media is. | ||
| So I think that there are things from Alex's show that could be used very easily. | ||
| I was like, well, this didn't damage him. | ||
| He said that he's doing better. | ||
| Yeah, there is, in a certain sense, his reputation so low among the rest of the world. | ||
| It could only be raised by actually being the guy who sent child porn to these people amongst the people who follow him. | ||
| And the second thing, in terms of the specific statement, quote, Alex Jones sent porn to Sandy Hook parents, if you accept that InfoWars is owned by Alex and the lawyers worked for Sandy Hook parents, I don't think that's technically a false statement. | ||
| Whatever the Young Turks headline, it doesn't necessarily imply that Alex knew what was being said. | ||
| It doesn't imply intention. | ||
| I think they're going to have a really hard time arguing that this is a defamatory statement, even if it really feels defamatory to Alex. | ||
| Then third, when we covered this story, it was my position that saying Alex sent this porn was a bit of a sensational headline. | ||
| I thought it was arguably probably technically true. | ||
| It still probably didn't capture the reality of the story. | ||
| I took the position that it wasn't a good headline, since there's a broader story, and that was probably kind of clickbait behavior. | ||
| But I don't think you can sue someone for that. | ||
| And if you can, Alex better go scrub literally all the content off InfoWars, because something he does quite often is post sensational, unprovable headlines about people that are meant to damage their reputations. | ||
| Consider his big piece that we talked about earlier, comparing Greta Thunberg to Hitler. | ||
| That's just one example. | ||
| I think that if he wins these suits, which he almost certainly will not, They won't even make it to the courtroom. | ||
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| They'd be tossed out instantly. | ||
| He kind of opens himself up, though, to action from literally anyone he's written a headline about, which could be a real fucking problem. | ||
| Like, this would be really chilling, even to his own ability to operate his business. | ||
| This is a stupid idea. | ||
| The person who would be most damaged by him winning this lawsuit is him, somehow, also. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, it's my feeling that this is a gigantic attempt at a publicity stunt, meant to get Alex more attention and hopefully raise funds for Infowars. | ||
| Because the suits are probably going to be inevitably thrown out of court, or he'll withdraw them, I don't think this is going anywhere. | ||
| Further, it really feels like this is an attempt to portray Alex as a sympathetic figure in the context of something related to Sandy Hook, in order to sway public opinion before his actual trial begins on that issue. | ||
| I recommend actual media outlets leave this thing alone and let it play out its course. | ||
| As much as it might feel really fun to dogpile and jump in and make fun of him, I do think that that's his goal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's all just let him go to the elephant graveyard and die there. | ||
| We don't need to drag him out to kick him every now and again. | ||
| It would seem wise. | ||
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| So he gets to talking about Barnes. | ||
| True to form. | ||
| He does think that his lawsuits are secondary to the impeachment and the Biden-Ukraine stuff. | ||
| And so he talks to Barnes about this Biden video that Alex has from the... | ||
| Do you mean the smoking gun? | ||
| The CFR. | ||
| Yeah, they actually say it is that. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| God, I hate these people. | ||
| The CFR video is a smoking gun. | ||
| I'm making fun of you. | ||
| Well, you look at something that's an actual smoking gun. | ||
| As they said, the transcript was going to be a smoking gun. | ||
| The actual smoking gun is there, Joe Biden, saying, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you don't get the billion dollars from the U.S. government. | ||
| A prosecutor who was involved in potentially investigating his son. | ||
| And that's quid co-pro right in front of you. | ||
| From a criminal case perspective, if I was defending Joe Biden, that would be almost an impossible thing to overcome. | ||
| No, it wouldn't. | ||
| It's very easy to overcome. | ||
| But notice the language that Barnes used there. | ||
| He described Shokin as a prosecutor who was, quote, involved potentially in investigating Biden's son. | ||
| Even Barnes knows that there was no investigation into Biden's son that Joe is trying to curtail. | ||
| But the optics are so important here. | ||
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You got to present the idea that there was that could have been. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| shameful shit. | ||
| And sincerely, when this is all said and done, I hope Barnes ends up disbarred. | ||
| His behavior on InfoWars over the past couple months has been a complete disgrace to his profession. | ||
| He is not operating ethically in any sense. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It does kind of seem like he's lost his mind a little bit, too. | ||
| Well, he's trying to create an evil SPLC. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| I would like to know the timeline on when Barnes just fucking flipped. | ||
| Probably after defending Wesley Snipes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He didn't go on the show immediately. | ||
| After starting to work on Alex's lawsuits, right? | ||
| I think it was pretty close. | ||
| It was pretty close? | ||
| Yeah, because even before he started defending Alex, he defended like Cassandra Fairbanks and Chuck Johnson. | ||
| And then he was just on the, and then he came on the show. | ||
| I think he was part of that, the attempt at that grift. | ||
| It wasn't too far off from when he started defending Alex to he became, you know, granted it's grown and he's on all the fucking time now. | ||
| That wasn't the case initially. | ||
| No, yeah. | ||
| But, yeah, he's always seemed to, you know, he wants the spotlight. | ||
| It does seem like Barnes is trying to live out this reality TV show star life. | ||
| Where he's like, he got some attention and then all of a sudden he got addicted to the attention and now he fucking loves it. | ||
| He's really full of himself. | ||
| He thinks he's a great broadcaster on Infowars 2. Right. | ||
| And eventually it's all going to disappear and he's going to wind up making five grand for an appearance at a bar on a Friday night. | ||
| That's what's going to happen, Barnes. | ||
| Which is why he needs to set up this evil SPLC. | ||
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Yes, yeah. | |
| You gotta, yeah, that's true. | ||
| So Barnes is real stupid about this Biden tape being a smoking gun. | ||
| Which makes this next clip even more funny. | ||
| I'm thankful for this wonderful crew. | ||
| I'm thankful for my family, for a good friend of mine now, Robert Barnes. | ||
| He can get on any subject, and he knows all about it. | ||
| Because he has to read all this stuff. | ||
| And I know when somebody's BSing, and he's got a better memory than I do, of course. | ||
| So, I love it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| He can talk about anything. | ||
| He sounds like an expert. | ||
| And I know when people are BSing. | ||
| Let's look at all of your old guests, Alex. | ||
| Let's look at how many strikes you have in that category. | ||
| So sad. | ||
| He never knows when someone's BSing. | ||
| Yeah, that is trouble. | ||
| That is trouble if you still believe that you know when somebody's BSing. | ||
| Especially after you haven't let Pchenik. | ||
| You've noticeably left Pchenik off your show for a long time. | ||
| Which suggests that you also know. | ||
| You are not good at telling when somebody's B.S. And you just said Carpe Donctum on Brighton about talking to a guy who dresses up as a wall. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Great. | ||
| So Alex talks to Barnes about this lawsuit, and Alex turns it into a real heroic endeavor that he's engaged in. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| But I think if you listen to this full clip, you kind of get a sense of what's going on here between Alex and Barnes. | ||
| I really think that it's kind of, as time goes on, it becomes so much clearer what their relationship is. | ||
| We're not litigious. | ||
| We're doing this for everybody's free speech and everybody to be protected and for conservatives, Christians, and nationalists and pro-gun folks to stand up and let the left know, the deranged left, that it's not open season on us anymore. | ||
| That said, Robert Barnes is doing this at cost for the filings and things, but he intends to depose these people. | ||
| He intends to fly around airplanes and do all this with his team. | ||
| I've seen him do it myself. | ||
| With what he's doing. | ||
| We weren't going to be able to continue on with the legal fees that we had at the level we're at right now. | ||
| We'd have to cut back if Barnes hadn't come in and helped us cut back on some things and really streamline things. | ||
| But I've got to tell you, you need to go to freeamericanlawcenter.com and become a member. | ||
| I have a strong suspicion... | ||
| Barnes is using him as pure advertising. | ||
| I have a strong suspicion that Barnes... | ||
| Like, he's saying he's working at cost, which means for free. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's doing this legal pro bono work, and Alex is promoting the Free American Law Center. | ||
| Yep, there's our... | ||
| I think that it's pretty clear that that's payment in kind or whatever. | ||
| Do you know what that is? | ||
| That's a fucking quid pro quo, Dan. | ||
| Quid pro. | ||
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Quid pro. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I... | ||
| I think it's pretty clear from statements that have been made and the pattern that we're seeing that, you know, maybe Barnes had ideas to get this off the ground. | ||
| He knew that Alex has a big media empire with tons of listeners. | ||
| It's a great place to try and cultivate support for it. | ||
| Hopefully use it as a stepping stone when you get a higher profile client than you go on Fox News or whatever. | ||
| I made enough money defending Wesley Snipes that I don't need money now. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| I can take a hit, work for Alex for free, take this high profile ass case. | ||
| And he's not working for free, by the way. | ||
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No, of course not. | |
| I don't believe that for a second. | ||
| But you work at a reduced rate in order to make yourself the only option Alex has. | ||
| Use him to fucking get your evil SPLC off the ground. | ||
| God, Alex. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| You don't know who your friends are. | ||
| Or he does know, and he's on board with that sort of thing. | ||
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That's possible. | |
| That's true. | ||
| An evil SPLC helps Alex, too. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So it kind of works in both of their favors, but it's pretty clear what the arrangement seems to be. | ||
| Yeah, but one of them is going to lose. | ||
| They're both going to lose. | ||
| Well, I know, but by losing, Barnes wins. | ||
| Alex just loses. | ||
| That's debatable, but yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I don't think it's going to work for Barnes either. | ||
| No. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| We'll see him in prison in 10 years for tax evasion. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So there's big news in Alex's Sandy Hook case also that they talk about for a second. | ||
| And that is that the Connecticut Supreme Court was hearing the arguments about his... | ||
| He appealed the punishment that he got for going on air drunk and trying to intimidate the opposing counsel. | ||
| And so the Connecticut Supreme Court agreed to hear that small section of the case. | ||
| And here's how Alex presents that. | ||
| So out of control, the Supreme Court of Connecticut has taken over the Sandy Hook case saying, I'm being basically railroaded. | ||
| That's being heard tomorrow. | ||
| Before I ever went to trial, there's this public interest. | ||
| That's like when you catch, you know, the judge with a bunch of money in the back of their truck from the mafia. | ||
| That's when the Supreme Court gets involved. | ||
| Barnes should not allow Alex to say things like that. | ||
| That is a complete lie and a misrepresentation of the case. | ||
| The Connecticut Supreme Court hasn't taken over his Sandy Hook case. | ||
| It's a small... | ||
| It was described in a Connecticut paper that I was reading as a sideshow of the actual case. | ||
| It is a small matter about the sanction that was imposed because of his... | ||
| Million dollar bounty that he put out. | ||
| Yeah, that one's an issue. | ||
| It's tough to get around that one. | ||
| Right. | ||
| At the time that we started recording this, I don't know how that worked out. | ||
| But on Thursday as we're recording this, that was being heard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Alex may have gotten those sanctions relieved, or he might not have. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But whatever it is, it has no real bearing on his actual case. | ||
| No, and either way, if he does get the sanctions released... | ||
| The next day he'll say something worthy of getting sanctioned. | ||
| Undoubtedly. | ||
| Well, I mean, yeah, if they do end up taking away those sanctions, it does seem to imply that Alex can do stuff like that on air if he wants to, and the punishments won't come. | ||
| None. | ||
| And I guess... | ||
| Cool. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So we have one last clip here, and it's Alex and Barnes talking about how crazed and backed into the corner Democrats are. | ||
| But if you really listen to this, listen carefully. | ||
| It sounds like a perfect description of Alex. | ||
| I'm more scared of the Democrats because they're so crazy. | ||
| They're wild-eyed right now. | ||
| They're just nuts. | ||
| Well, it's like anyone exposed. | ||
| They're looking in the mirror and they're projecting onto others that which they see in themselves, particularly in fearing that the deepest, most problematic aspects of their institutional power will now be exposed for the whole world to see. | ||
| Are you fucking with me? | ||
| Is Barnes fucking with me? | ||
| No, but I mean, we see this all the time in various different permutations. | ||
| Them just describing the other side doing exactly what they're doing, even down to saying that the other side is saying that they're doing what the other side is doing. | ||
| Like, it's just, it's intended to confuse and disorient people. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| Yeah, but that perfectly describes how my view of Alex is from looking at his show. | ||
| Yeah, that's bad. | ||
| Crazed, backed into a corner, scared of the world, seeing what's actually going on in his operation. | ||
| Like, it's all, this is all just sad. | ||
| I, man. | ||
| And when you see the way that the cover for the Biden stuff, or the cover for the Trump stuff in it pointing to Biden and all this. | ||
| You see the exact same behavior. | ||
| It's all just a dumb shell game. | ||
| You know, Barnes could absolutely insult Alex to his face for an hour if he just started it with, I know this globalist, and then went on a laundry list of the things that Alex is. | ||
| He started a radio show and completely lost his way in supporting globalism. | ||
| Oh, that's so sad. | ||
| What a loser. | ||
| Oh, that sucks. | ||
| It must suck to be him. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| So, when I come to the end of all this, one of the things that I come away with is a sense of, like, there's a lot of really big shit going on in the real world. | ||
| And you expect Alex to have either some kind of a freakout or something, or have a decently interesting angle on any of it, and you really don't. | ||
| You really don't. | ||
| It's ultimately very disappointing listening to these episodes. | ||
| It makes me think he is sober, quite frankly. | ||
| He's not drinking because his response to this kind of high-level shit, even six months ago, would have been explosive. | ||
| And as it is, you look at his show and it's just yelling about Biden, Greta Thunberg's Hitler. | ||
| It's kind of uninspired in a lot of ways. | ||
| There would absolutely have been an emergency report. | ||
| For something. | ||
| I couldn't find one. | ||
| I don't know if he's allowed to do those anymore because of the sanctions thing still being unresolved. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| I feel disappointed in some ways. | ||
| I think there's a lot of interesting things. | ||
| I think it's interesting to learn about the angle of attack on Thunberg, the Soros shit. | ||
| It's interesting to find that that comes from a QAnon Twitter account. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| It's interesting to see the reality of the Biden stuff in Ukraine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But Alex can do better, or he could do better at some point. | ||
| There was a time. | ||
| Or at least he could be more interesting. | ||
| It's disappointing for me. | ||
| I'm disappointed in you, Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I expect a better propagandist, and you are not that anymore. | ||
| Yeah, I really think that in his life, that clip of him just... | ||
| Telling everybody, Trump is mobbed up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't trust this guy. | ||
| He is going to die looking at that as his, like, fucking man in the high tower, in the high castle moment of, like, there were two paths I could have taken. | ||
| I could have gone here, and then there's this reality, and I went this way, and I got the shitty reality. | ||
| I'm not sure that's what the man in the high castle is about, but... | ||
| I'm just saying it's the alternate reality concept. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| I just don't like you misusing Philip K. Dick. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Bye. | ||
| Even if this is kind of uninspired and weak propaganda that could just easily be done by anybody else, it's still worth it to go over this for the revelation that Alex thinks that Jefferson Davis was a U.S. president. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| That will live on as probably the most on-brand Freudian slip I've ever heard. | ||
| Yeah, I can't think of anything better. | ||
| So, we'll be back on Monday with a new episode. | ||
| Indeed we will. | ||
| It's been a long time since we did a Wacky Wednesday episode. | ||
| Might do one on Monday, just as a palate cleanser. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Depends on whether or not we're all still alive on Monday. | ||
| That is a good point. | ||
| Things are moving fast. | ||
| Things are moving fast. | ||
| I honestly think this episode might be outdated by the time we have finished recording it. | ||
| Honestly. | ||
| But we'll see, and we'll be back then. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| We're also on... | ||
| Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It is at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And at gotobedjordan. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| We're also on Facebook. | ||
| We are. | ||
| I'm really into enunciation right now. | ||
| It seems that way. | ||
| But yeah, if you wanted to listen to our show, you could go to iTunes. | ||
| You could download the podcast. | ||
| You could leave a review. | ||
| But let me tell you something, Dan. | ||
| The best way. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| The best way to hear this show is go down to your local 1950s-themed diner. | ||
| All right? | ||
| I don't know which one is yours, but... | ||
| Mine specifically is off Highway 57. Okay. | ||
| You go there, you order a real salty cup of coffee, because it's a terrible diner. | ||
| Terrible. | ||
| You've had that salty cup of coffee before. | ||
| I'm not sure I have. | ||
| Oh, it's a terrible diner. | ||
| And when the woman brings out your check, because it's a 1950s diner, she's a woman, she's going to bring out that notepad, she's going to have it in her little apron, she's going to hand it to you, and underneath it, palmed like a magician. | ||
| Thumb drive. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it'll have our episode. | ||
| And you'll get a nice malt out of the situation if you so choose. | ||
| We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I'm the guy who dresses like a wall at a Trump rally. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |