Today, Dan and Jordan talk about a couple of recent days of episodes of The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, the gents find Alex making peace with one of his worst enemies in hopes of getting a new World War cooking, and they learn that Alex's office responsibilities extend to solving small mysteries
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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and endure knowledge fight need money Andy in Kansas stop it Andy in Kansas it's time to pray Andy in Kansas you're on the air I love you. | |
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan! | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Do you have any allergies, such as a peanut allergy or the like? | ||
| I don't think so, at least not any normal allergies. | ||
| I believe myself to be allergic to avocados, but I am not positive that that is the truth. | ||
| All right. | ||
| There's a story behind that. | ||
| You know, it's one of those things that I've never gotten officially tested, but just decided is the case. | ||
| I got sick eating guacamoles or avocado multiple times when I was younger, and did not get sick times that I ate avocado. | ||
| So I decided that I must be allergic to it, but I have no confirmation on it, and I haven't had any avocado in a long time. | ||
| Well, surprise Dan, I've got an avocado right here for you! | ||
| I'm sure I could touch it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| My girlfriend can't touch peanuts. | ||
| I think there's severity levels with allergies. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I've been mocked and laughed at for saying I'm allergic to avocados. | ||
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Why? | |
| Why not be allergic to avocados? | ||
| I could be. | ||
| I could not be. | ||
| We're going to get a lot of messages like, avocados are the only hypoallergenic fruit there is in the world. | ||
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Forced to eat avocados on camera. | |
| I don't think there's anything else other than that I've had an allergic reaction to. | ||
| I mean, everyone's allergic to, like, poison ivy. | ||
| Yeah, is that an allergy? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I ain't no scientist, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| And I only know what you tell me about him. | ||
| That is correct, and that is the theme of the show. | ||
| No, I just want to show, like, the hot one show that you love. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But instead, it's people's allergies. | ||
| They just give them more and more. | ||
| That's murder. | ||
| I know it's murder, but it'd be very... | ||
| I don't know if you'd get as off-the-cuff answers to questions when people are struggling for EpiPens. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over. | ||
| We'll be covering the present day of August 28th and 29th, which is Wednesday and Thursday of this week. | ||
| Uneventful days. | ||
| Nothing much going on these days. | ||
| There's some interesting stuff going on with Alex, but I'll be honest, I didn't care about a whole lot of this. | ||
| There's a lot going on that is just filler. | ||
| There is nothing happening in many sectors of the Infowar. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or at least Alex's version of it. | ||
| And a lot of the stuff that you look into expecting to find, you find nothing, which is strange. | ||
| But we'll get into all that here in a moment. | ||
| But before we do, I've got to give a shout-out to some people who have signed up and are supporting the show. | ||
| That sounds great. | ||
| So first, Jacob, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Jacob. | ||
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| Next, MossConfig. | ||
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| Thanks, Francis. | ||
| Next, GlobalistWalrus. | ||
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| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
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| Wilford Brimley. | ||
| Ah, there it is. | ||
| Next, Tim. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Tim. | ||
| Next, and finally, I'd like to say thank you to some people who have signed up and are supporting the show on an elevated level. | ||
| We appreciate it also very much. | ||
| So, Adam Naha, or Naja, I can't remember. | ||
| I was corrected on this, and I do not... | ||
| Still forgot. | ||
| I am a real shitty memory guy. | ||
| All good. | ||
| Thank you so much, though. | ||
| And this one might actually be stealthily trying to get a commercial in here. | ||
| This might be a real thing. | ||
| I don't know if it is. | ||
| Or it might be a reference to some goddamn Fairley Brothers movie I've never seen. | ||
| Are we doing some branded content? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Could be a Will Ferrell movie I've never seen. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| But the Palermo Roads Executive Search. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now all wonderful technocrats. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Crikey, mate, that's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right? | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimp so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare Infowar on you. | ||
| Thank you so much, Adam Najah and Palermo Road's executive search. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| We appreciate it. | ||
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| We would appreciate it. | ||
| It'd be lovely. | ||
| So, one of the reasons that I needed to get back to the present day, two things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're at the front of the... | ||
| The sort of cue, as it were. | ||
| The first was that Lawrence O'Donnell got on MSNBC the other night and reported that an anonymous source had told him that the Deutsche Bank had co-signed loans. | ||
| And people went a little buck wild with that. | ||
| And that was kind of unwise, seeing as it was, you know, very explicitly, maybe too good to be true, and one anonymous source, very irresponsible to get on TV and report this. | ||
| And also, what oligarch is dumb enough to put his own fucking name on there? | ||
| You know, that's too stupid. | ||
| But I felt like this was a perfect opportunity for Alex, seeing as it seems like a misstep by the media to allow this on air. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| And I would have figured that Alex would have teed the fuck off on that. | ||
| Spoiler alert, not one mention of it. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It seems like just a layup for him. | ||
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What? | |
| This is like when that one dude on Piers Morgan was like, oh, let's kill him. | ||
| Buzz Bissinger. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You win. | ||
| You got one in the bag. | ||
| It was a gimme for Alex, and he does not take that. | ||
| So that inspiration for me to check in on the present. | ||
| Null set on that. | ||
| Gone. | ||
| Now, the other one was that, I believe yesterday as we're recording this, on Wednesday, the Trump, he tweeted that Fox News ain't doing it anymore, and we need to look for a new news outlet. | ||
| Yes, very funny. | ||
| Which I expected to be Alex's green light, to be like... | ||
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Please. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| I have been here all along. | ||
| I have been your chosen soldier through this entire fight. | ||
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It's time to go to work. | |
| Yes! | ||
| I've already put this in place for you. | ||
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All you've got to do is give me a better studio and we're on the races. | |
| I kind of had a feeling of like, we might end up seeing Alex really try, not necessarily to tailor his content because it's already there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But we might sort of see him try and fill that void in some ways. | ||
| And I wanted to pay close attention to that, as I think we might be at a point of demarcation for Alex. | ||
| Or at least that was one of the things that I was considering as I decided, like, let's stay in the present here and check in. | ||
| I don't necessarily think I see any differences. | ||
| Yeah, no, of course not. | ||
| I don't see Alex really... | ||
| Even seeming to notice that Trump tweeted that. | ||
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Yeah, maybe he's checking out for real. | |
| Maybe Alex is actually finally in that stage of his life where he can just say, I don't want to work here anymore. | ||
| We've all been there. | ||
| I know that emotionally, at times, it does feel that way. | ||
| But I don't think it's a fair or accurate thing to say that Alex is necessarily checking out. | ||
| Because I think he is still... | ||
| Quite engaged in the game. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's just what the game is seems to be weird. | ||
| So we're going to start here on the 28th, and Alex begins his show by explaining that the globalists want to depopulate the planet in order to rid themselves of competition. | ||
| It seems... | ||
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Hmm? | |
| That seems like a strange motivation, but that seems to be what he's espousing on this episode. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And remember, I started the broadcast off yesterday with NBC News cover story, their top story, saying that the age of humans is over and that we will soon be extincted, perhaps in our lifetimes. | ||
| Because if the globalists can exterminate 99% of the population, they truly will not have the competition anymore. | ||
| And there it is. | ||
| Not long after that, Homo sapiens could vanish from Earth entirely in our own lifetimes. | ||
| Now, if Hitler wrote that, you'd say he was even more of a madman. | ||
| But when? | ||
| It's James Lovelock, the transhumanist environmentalist. | ||
| It's so sexy. | ||
| And where does James Lovelock go? | ||
| I looked it up. | ||
| James Lovelock has gone and spoken to the Albert Einstein Institute. | ||
| And who was the omnibudgment of that for the last 20 years? | ||
| Jeffrey! | ||
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Come on down! | |
| Epstein! | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| This is a hot start to the show. | ||
| This is weird. | ||
| So what Alex is talking about here is coverage of a new book that was written by noted futurist James Lovelock called Novasene. | ||
| In the book, Lovelock argues that in the future, cyborgs will become the dominant species of being in the universe. | ||
| These beings will be so far past us in terms of intelligence that they'd probably not even be interested in what we're doing, kind of how a lot of people interact with plants. | ||
| It's all good and well to take issue with a futurist's prediction, but it's an entirely separate thing to pretend that the role of a futurist in society is to unveil the actual future, as if they have some otherworldly psychic gift. | ||
| That's how Alex seems to think about futurists, as if they're modern-day soothsayers. | ||
| They aren't making predictions about trends they see in technology and culture, but they're telling the world what is and what will definitively be. | ||
| Yeah, he already has a trend guy, and we've seen how well he does. | ||
| So anybody not him must be able to see the future. | ||
| It's a crazy way to think. | ||
| It's very nuts, and beyond that, very dumb. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| In our endgame coverage, we went over a bunch of the failed predictions of Alex's other favorite futurist, Ray Kurzweil, so we don't need to repeat all that over again, but suffice it to say, his batting average is not great. | ||
| Most futurists' batting average is not great. | ||
| And that can also be said of James Lovelock. | ||
| He's most famous for his 1974 Gaia hypothesis, which stated that the Earth itself is a living organism that adjusts itself and has for millennia to make the environment suitable for life. | ||
| In the years since the Gaia hypothesis, tons and tons of science has come out to demonstrate how this view of the planet is fairly unsupported, or as the new scientist put it, the idea is, quote, beautiful but flawed. | ||
| There are elements of the hypothesis that can be made to fit with understood science inasmuch as ecosystems can recover from some forms of damage that are done to them, and that ecosystems are interdependent, but the larger point he was making doesn't seem like it's grounded. | ||
| This is the largest contribution Lovelock had and has made to the culture, and it's an idea that most scientists view as a fun thing to think about, but completely off-base scientifically. | ||
| There's no reason to not look at the predictions he's making now, as a 100-year-old man, as equally idealistic and fun to contemplate, but ultimately not that realistic. | ||
| Scientists have often said the same thing about the Expelliarmus charm. | ||
| It is very fun to think about, but not necessarily scientifically helpful. | ||
| I am guessing this is a Final Fantasy reference. | ||
| Harry Potter reference, Dan! | ||
| Harry Potter reference! | ||
| Another thing I don't recognize as real. | ||
| So one of the other things that I saw in terms of a criticism of his hypothesis was that When it was refined later, and he had some scientific criticism towards it, then he refined his theory to make it more in line with the scientific understandings. | ||
| And once he really laid down what he was saying, people, their response to it was like, well, what's new about this isn't accurate. | ||
| And what's accurate about this isn't new. | ||
| So there's almost like a non-futuristic aspect to it. | ||
| And then the parts that are futuristic aren't really accurate. | ||
| Yeah, it's almost like scientific fanfic. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And that's not to say anything against James Lovelock. | ||
| That's just the nature of this sort of futurist work. | ||
| These people are often never actually right about much, but they present a compelling and romanticized version of things to come, and even in their errors, they often still latch onto a metaphorical truth about the times, which is easy to confuse with being right. | ||
| Alex is so desperate to present himself as correct about his theories that his enemies are trying to kill off the population that this is the sort of evidence he's willing to present, which should tell you how flimsy his shit is. | ||
| It's very flimsy. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| Now, it's important to point out that the other stuff he's talking about, there's more than one Albert Einstein Institute in the United States. | ||
| One of them is a non-profit that bills itself as being dedicated to supporting non-violent resolutions of international crises, though it has been criticized by many as actually supporting efforts for U.S.-backed regime change and sanctions. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure if that's an accurate criticism without looking too deeply into it, but whatever the case is, it exists as a foreign policy entity that focuses on international conflict resolution. | ||
| And the other one is Albert Brooks' personal charity, right? | ||
| It is not. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The other Albert Einstein Institute is also known as the Max Planck Institute for Gravitational Physics. | ||
| That one sounds science-y. | ||
| These are unrelated entities. | ||
| That sounds obvious. | ||
| That just happen to have the same name. | ||
| What a dick move on the foreign policy one to be like, we're the Albert Einstein Institute. | ||
| Well, they did that because the guy who started it was inspired by Albert Einstein's non-violence ideology. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| I looked into this. | ||
| I can't find any real concrete connections between Epstein or either of these institutes, nor can I find any concrete connection between Lovelock and either of them. | ||
| If I had to guess, I would say that the most likely possibility here is that Lovelock might have given a lecture at the science one, and that Epstein might have donated to the political one. | ||
| What I can tell you with certainty is that Jeffrey Epstein was not the omnibudsman of either of them for the last 20 years, partially because it's ombudsman and partially because he wasn't the ombudsman of either of those institutes. | ||
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He wasn't the ombudsman of anything ever! | |
| But he wasn't the omnibudsman. | ||
| He definitely wasn't the omnibudsman. | ||
| Why would you have Jeffrey Epstein criticize your editorial outlook? | ||
| An ombudsman. | ||
| What kind of idiot would hire Epstein to write about how well you're following your ethical standards? | ||
| It's a little silly. | ||
| But Alex is just grabbing at straws. | ||
| It's really, really easy to believe that Alex wouldn't realize there are multiple Albert Einstein institutes. | ||
| And he would just be so desperate to create the appearance of connections that don't exist in order to support his dumb arguments that he would do this. | ||
| Until I see some actual evidence... | ||
| You know, something that Alex in no way provides at all. | ||
| This just sounds like bullshit to me. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds nonsensical. | ||
| So he's starting off in a good place, let's say. | ||
| And, you know, when I heard that, I was like, this is not good. | ||
| There are no citations for this. | ||
| Alex is just making an argument that this guy, this futurist, is telling everybody that humanity is going to be killed off. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he goes to, which is a strange, unspecific... | ||
| He goes to. | ||
| He goes to the Albert Einstein Institute. | ||
| He goes there. | ||
| Jeffrey Epstein was the omnibudsman for 20 years. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I was like, you... | ||
| This is bad work. | ||
| Yeah, that's not good. | ||
| And so thankfully, Alex kind of deals with why he's doing such a bad job. | ||
| Okay, well, good. | ||
| Now, I said yesterday that I was going to come in today with all these exhibits and do most of the show on the bottom of the rabbit hole, where the globalists are taking us. | ||
| It's not the top of a pyramid. | ||
| It's really the bottom of a rat hole. | ||
| And I'm going to do some of that today, but really, I need to do more preparation. | ||
| You asshole. | ||
| You've had 20 fucking years. | ||
| Plus years on air. | ||
| All your life has been preparation for this. | ||
| You should have been prepared to give this speech off the cuff 15 years ago. | ||
| You can't claim I don't have the information available to me. | ||
| I wasn't able to sit down for an hour before the show, so I can't come on air and actually talk about the depth of the rabbit hole. | ||
| All you do is talk about that. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's your whole gig. | ||
| That's the whole thing. | ||
| That's so sad. | ||
| Does that mean that you're still... | ||
| That bums me out. | ||
| Does that mean that he's still trying to find the bottom of the rabbit hole? | ||
| Or rat hole? | ||
| Well, he would never admit to that. | ||
| He knows everything. | ||
| He knows everything about their plans. | ||
| Right, so then... | ||
| He has their blueprints. | ||
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So then what... | |
| What more preparation could he possibly need? | ||
| Getting focused. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| It's a zen thing. | ||
| It's a zen thing? | ||
| He's got to meditate before the show. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Actually, that's a reasonable argument. | ||
| Alex is really big into kundalini yoga, so he's got to do that before the show. | ||
| He just doesn't have him in him today. | ||
| I would accept that as an excuse. | ||
| Some days you can get to the bottom of the globalist conspiracy and some days you can't. | ||
| I'll just accept that. | ||
| I think this is demonstrable of one of the things that I see in the present day that makes this not very fun. | ||
| And that is, this is sad. | ||
| This is a really sad display of a person. | ||
| He comes on air, makes a bunch of... | ||
| Tenuous connections that may or may not exist. | ||
| And he asserts them as proof of the globalists are trying to kill off people to eliminate competition. | ||
| And then he's like, well, you know, I promised yesterday I was going to prove shit, but I didn't prepare. | ||
| Like, how sad is this? | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| It's exactly how you would act if you were trying to get fired from your day job. | ||
| Only it turns out you own the company. | ||
| And your dad's the head of HR. | ||
| Yeah, that's the thing where he keeps being like, man, is anybody going to fire me? | ||
| Oh, shit, that's right. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| So, at least, I'll give you this. | ||
| I'll give Alex this. | ||
| I'll give it up to him like he's a Somali pirate. | ||
| I will say that at least he has an excuse. | ||
| And not only that, He has two excuses for why he's unprepared. | ||
| Are either of them good? | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I'm either going to do that tomorrow or I'll do it on Friday. | ||
| I'm not complaining. | ||
| But today has been law enforcement day. | ||
| I had the feds call me this morning when I was trying to get ready for the show on another issue. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Which was not a problem. | ||
| And then we had somebody steal a backpack here and our head of security... | ||
| Wasn't even here at the time. | ||
| He drove down from North Austin, looked at all the convenience stores around here, within 30 minutes, found the guys. | ||
| Citizens arrested him. | ||
| That's still in the books. | ||
| You find horse thieves. | ||
| You can bring them into the magistrate, and the police went and arrested them. | ||
| So I was dealing with that. | ||
| You're the fucking CEO and president and head of this, the figurehead, the face, the chief talent of this company. | ||
| You got to deal with stolen backpacks? | ||
| What the fuck is going on with your organization? | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| You know, it happened, and I actually saw this happen on Monday to Steve Doocy. | ||
| He was about to do Foxy Friends, and then they went to a remote of him chasing a guy who stole his backpack. | ||
| Citizens arresting that horse thief. | ||
| I'm Steve Doocy! | ||
| I would say that for Alex's, like, uh... | ||
| You know, all of his talk of, I do six hours of prep for every show. | ||
| I'm in the studio hours before, getting my articles in line and getting everything straightened out, doing deep research. | ||
| If you get completely... | ||
| How long was that call with the feds that may or may not have even happened? | ||
| Five, ten minutes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But that's mental space, that's at least a half hour. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| That's anxiety. | ||
| I'll even give you the half hour. | ||
| Stolen backpack and half hour phone call completely derails your ability to prove your argument about depopulation that you've been screaming about for over a decade? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Go fuck yourself. | ||
| I just like... | ||
| I love the juxtaposition of... | ||
| He's like, I'm about to reveal the entire conspiracy behind the globalist plan. | ||
| We're going to go all the way to the bottom of the rat hole. | ||
| It's the inverse of the top of a pyramid. | ||
| But first, somebody stole a backpack in the office. | ||
| I got to get out of here. | ||
| I got to go figure this out. | ||
| Real fucking chaos. | ||
| Such a banal... | ||
| Now, there is one... | ||
| Version of this that I could see as being real. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And that is... | ||
| That was an important backpack. | ||
| If there was something in there that Alex really didn't want to get out, I could see that ruining it. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Like, if it's just an employee's backpack... | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| I think it was actually the coronation egg. | ||
| I think it's the Fabergé egg. | ||
| Well, if it's like a backpack that is full of footage of things that invalidate his narratives, or a recording of a business meeting where they're discussing their supplement scam openly, or financial information that he doesn't want to get out. | ||
| If it's a backpack full of that, then I understand. | ||
| But the way you're presenting it, and the way he presents it is, it was an employee's backpack. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| Also, how did that happen? | ||
| You have snipers on your roof, Alex, according to your version of the story. | ||
| There's guns everywhere. | ||
| Who got in and stole a backpack? | ||
| It would have to be another employee, right? | ||
| Yeah, it would have to be. | ||
| Also, the guy... | ||
| This might be a spy. | ||
| The head of security just went around to, like... | ||
| Convenience stores? | ||
| I don't understand that either. | ||
| So maybe somebody didn't steal the backpack. | ||
| Maybe somebody accidentally took the wrong backpack. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Also, is Alex the head of security? | ||
| Because that would explain why it took up so much of his day. | ||
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If he had to go to the convenience stores. | |
| If he was, he would refer to himself in the third person as well. | ||
| He would be like, the head of security had to go get him. | ||
| Head of security. | ||
| He's just like flexing at the camera. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Bring out the guns of war. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also... | ||
| How do they trace that backpack to a convenience store? | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| That's why it had to be somebody accidentally took the wrong backpack. | ||
| There's no way that he's like, oh, somebody took a backpack from the InfoWars studio? | ||
| Canvas convenience stores. | ||
| We're going to set up a two and a half kilometer perimeter. | ||
| We know that globalist drop-off points are generally at the Piggly Wiggly. | ||
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So we're going to... | |
| Send the gendarmes around to anywhere that sells a Twinkie. | ||
| We're going to get to the bottom of this thing. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| So Alex is unprepared, but that doesn't stop him from getting to what he does best, which is talk Bible. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| When you don't have a lot of preparation, it's important to fall back on, like, the deep wells within you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| God, you just explained religion. | ||
| Alex goes to the scripture, and I don't think he does a great job. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because, well, we've seen... | ||
| You'll see. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because that's their religion, that's their system. | ||
| They're told by their God, the earth is bad, humans are bad, you're going to be God, you're going to override it. | ||
| It's survival of the fittest. | ||
| You're going to conquer all life, and new life forms will rise out of that, and then you will conquer the universe and be a god. | ||
| Well, that's what the devil said to Eve in the Garden of Eden. | ||
| They had knowledge of good and evil, as we would think of it, but the knowledge of good is the knowledge of how to run good systems and be honorable. | ||
| The knowledge of evil is the infection and the... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Knowledge of evil is knowledge of how to set up evil systems. | ||
| It's not the awareness that bad exists. | ||
| It is the downloading into your psyche the spirit of the devil. | ||
| So, Adam and Eve, the story of Adam and Eve, you know, like, he seems to think that when Eve ate that apple, original sin was created, and that original sin is globalism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm being a little bit glib. | ||
| Or also some just basic coding information, I think. | ||
| Well, yeah, the system of... | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| I admit that the way I'm presenting it is a little bit glib, but I don't think it's far off. | ||
| No, no, you're absolutely right. | ||
| And he's completely insane. | ||
| Without descending too far into this, I want to point out the one gigantic flaw in Alex's interpretation. | ||
| He seems to be suggesting that the knowledge of good is the knowledge of how to set up good systems that encourage humanity, and the knowledge of evil is the knowledge of how to set up parasitic, anti-human systems. | ||
| Where he loses me... | ||
| Is that the whole thing that God didn't forbid Adam to eat from the tree of knowledge of evil. | ||
| It was knowledge of both good and evil that was forbidden. | ||
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Right. | |
| Genesis 2 verse 16 clearly says, And the Lord God commanded the man, You are free to eat from any tree in the garden, but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. | ||
| For when you eat from that tree, you will certainly die. | ||
| It's the knowledge of both good and evil that God tells Adam he's not allowed to possess. | ||
| So if Alex's dumb interpretation of the Bible is to hold, then God must explicitly not want humans to possess knowledge of how to create good, human-empowering systems. | ||
| This is an inescapable conclusion from the literal text of the Bible, and Alex's expressed which is a problem for Alex. | ||
| Now If Alex wants to say that the globalists are creating a bad anti-human system, which is the offshoot of possessing the Edenic knowledge of evil, And that's why he's against them? | ||
| He's just as evil, according to the Bible, because he's very clear that he's trying to create a good human empowering system which relies on the knowledge of good, which is equally forbidden for man to possess by God. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that's a problem. | ||
| Well, you got it. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| You just nailed it. | ||
| This is an essential problem with Alex's interpretation of this scripture. | ||
| Yeah, but in his conception of God, it makes sense for me because the way he conceives God, I don't think that guy has any idea how to create good social systems to advance humankind. | ||
| So that makes the most sense to me. | ||
| I mean, that's a fair interpretation for you to have, but I don't think you're preaching it. | ||
| No, I am not preaching it. | ||
| And this gets to a point that I think is really important, and that is that I have never heard of anybody, literally, who interprets Genesis like this. | ||
| Oh, no, I've never heard anything like that in my entire goddamn life. | ||
| I feel like I'm a little bit worried about Alex's relationship with Scripture, because it's so full of eisegesis, which is the practice of letting your own subjective beliefs and ideas seep into the text itself. | ||
| As opposed to exegesis, where you take the text and you approach it from an objective perspective. | ||
| He seems to really want to use the texts to support his worldview, so he injects them into it and then interprets them, which is sloppy at best and malicious at worst. | ||
| I think it's much closer to malicious. | ||
| Wildly and rampantly common. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But not to this extent. | ||
| No, not to this extent. | ||
| This one's a little bit too far out there. | ||
| The knowledge of good and evil brought globalism into the world is essentially the argument he's making. | ||
| No, well, what I think he is saying is that God would have been cool if you only ate from the capitalist apple, but then they ate from the goddamn commie apple, too, and that's the devil, and that's how we know the difference. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But, again... | ||
| Even if they had just eaten from the capitalist apple, still forbidden by God. | ||
| Well, yeah, but capitalism is bad, as we saw from Jesus. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Still forbidden by God. | ||
| Well, it still is now. | ||
| According to Alex. | ||
| He has not thought through his positions. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| Even for a second. | ||
| Not even for one moment. | ||
| Because that's a huge hole in his logic. | ||
| Anyway, a large portion of this show, because he didn't prepare his, I don't know, collegiate level course on the bottom of the rat hole, he spends a lot of time complaining about Taylor Swift. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Taylor Swift, I guess she got a video music award. | ||
| And in her acceptance speech, she pointed out that at the end of her music video, there's a petition for LGBTQ rights. | ||
| Right. | ||
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So, of course, he's got to be L. He's mad that he doesn't criticize China. | |
| Sure. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Because there's repressive laws about homosexuality in China. | ||
| Get out. | ||
| Now, that's all good and well, I guess. | ||
| But because Alex is dumb, he slips up and implies something in this next clip that I think it's telling. | ||
| Someone will be arrested promoting this. | ||
| The gays get executed. | ||
| But none of that's lost on her. | ||
| She's rooting against Trump. | ||
| They know that that type of lifestyle, when it gets all into the craziness, destroys cultures, does every time in cycles, and so they'll put you in jail for it. | ||
| But she doesn't say a word about them. | ||
| It's all about how Trump's bad. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| I feel like if you listen to that carefully, Alex is kind of endorsing locking up LGBTQ people. | ||
| Because he is saying that they believe, and that's the Chinese, they know, not believe. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say, the know word is what really gets you there, because it means that we both know. | ||
| They know as we know. | ||
| They know the reality, which is that as there are more of those people, society's corrupt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And they'll kill you. | ||
| And so in order to avoid that, they lock these people up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Alex seems to think that that's a good conclusion. | ||
| I think, well, I think what he thinks he's doing is criticizing them as like, see, look, they're locking people up just for their non-conformative actions, whereas you're criticizing the Trump administration, and all we want to do is make sure no more of you happen. | ||
| Like, it's... | ||
| He's creating a difference of degree that I can only describe as the slightest. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| And I think the other thing that he's doing is that he thinks he's criticizing the Chinese policy on this. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Or the Chinese behavior. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But what he's actually doing is offering an explanation for it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That is in and of itself horribly bigoted. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And that to me is tacit support of the action. | ||
| He hates China, but that action is not something that he seems to be interested in, except as a prop to use against China. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, look, you hate Trump and the neo-Nazis, but I mean, you know, what we know, like everybody knows, is that the more Jews there are, the more civilizations are going to collapse. | ||
| And, you know, Hitler, he would have killed them all. | ||
| So, wait, are you, huh? | ||
| It's a troubling direction for his thoughts to go in accidentally or intentionally. | ||
| So Alex, I've gotten a chance to listen to some of his commercials because of this. | ||
| Listening to it on the podcast form or the audio stream that's released, you get the Genesis Communications Network commercials. | ||
| So you get the still water filtration companies, the sponsors that the network has that Alex obviously gets a cut of. | ||
| But when you watch them on the Infowars.com stream, all you get is Alex's bullshit. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| And it's crazy. | ||
| Some of these commercials we're going to listen to a little bit later are absurd. | ||
| But also, a lot of them are just memes. | ||
| And like, Count Dankula or Carpe Donctum little short videos. | ||
| They're not even commercials as much as they are like, we just... | ||
| They're like vines. | ||
| Yeah, we're gonna play a vine. | ||
| We're gonna play a vine. | ||
| Okay, gotcha. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| The level of non-interest from people who have money in buying up time on Alex's programs is unheard of. | ||
| It's... | ||
| Oh, so these are people actually advertising? | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But if someone would pay to advertise, obviously you wouldn't be playing a fucking Count Dankula meme during a commercial break. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I halfway thought that you meant that Count Dankula was giving him... | ||
| I can't imagine he has that kind of money. | ||
| I can't imagine that, yeah. | ||
| Even if it would be cheap. | ||
| 50 bucks. | ||
| But even if that's the case, even if Count Dankula's paying 50 bucks for him to play this meme during commercial break, that means that no one will pay Alex $51 to advertise a product. | ||
| Yes, that is exactly right. | ||
| Which is not a good sign. | ||
| That is exactly right. | ||
| That, to me, is a devastating picture of what's going on. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So it didn't surprise me at all that Alex descended into a very desperate sales pitch here on this August 28th episode. | ||
| He spends a really long time outlining the new special, which is if you buy some product for 50% off, you get a giant bottle of another product for free. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| Get it out of this fucking warehouse. | ||
| Take it. | ||
| There's even a point in one of these episodes where he's talking about the special and he's like, I think we're losing money on this. | ||
| And people keep telling me, Alex, stop it. | ||
| It does sound like if his numbers are at all accurate, this is not good. | ||
| No, yeah. | ||
| This is a bad sale from a business perspective. | ||
| And towards the end of this, after he gets done trying to sell this new sale, he has another pitch. | ||
| That he wants to make. | ||
| And it makes me think that it's tough times for Alex right now. | ||
| I just want to add this one caveat. | ||
| Whatever you do, if you're listening to an AM or FM station, or you're watching us on a local TV station, call the local UHF, VHA, or cable. | ||
| Thank them. | ||
| Call their sponsors and thank them. | ||
| Become a sponsor. | ||
| Cable's very inexpensive. | ||
| Local TV's inexpensive. | ||
| Advertise your steakhouse, your Mexican food place, your laundry place, your church, whatever, on that station, because we have great active listeners. | ||
| Or just mail them a $20 check once a month. | ||
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| And make that your tithe. | ||
| Because I can guarantee you, that local radio station, whether it's WBCR and places like Tennessee or you name it, is doing a lot more for the Lord's work and fighting for the unborn and the already born. | ||
| than any of these so-called churches. | ||
| There are some good churches, but not many. | ||
| They all want to hide out, do whatever. | ||
| They don't say no word about the Antichrist, the Mark of the B. It is just as important to support your local TV and radio stations as it is to support the mothership broadcast. | ||
| So I'm thanking you for the support, but I'm asking you humbly, please. | ||
| Reach out and support those local stations. | ||
| It's absolutely critical. | ||
| I've heard him say stuff like this before, but not with that kind of desperation that I feel coming from him. | ||
| Like I said, it's coming off a really long sales pitch for this new special, and all I can hear is this, like, ratings are not good at the local stations. | ||
| No one wants to buy ads on those stations. | ||
| All I hear is Alex signaling that he is in jeopardy of losing some of these stations unless people who are pulling for him step in and buy ads. | ||
| Not as a sound financial decision, but as an ideological move to support him. | ||
| It makes sense why he would think that's a reasonable thing for people to do. | ||
| I mean, after all, he did get his first radio gig because his dad promised the station's program director that he would buy commercial time on the show. | ||
| It makes sense that he would just assume this is how things... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everyone does this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's just trying to get his audience to artificially keep him afloat because no one's interested in buying ads. | ||
| And if no one's interested in buying ads, that means there's a non-large audience listening on these stations. | ||
| So I think there's a crunch happening. | ||
| And it's a little too late for him to start the six seasons in a movie hashtag. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I think that one's a little bit passed him by. | ||
| I would say so. | ||
| I don't think he's going to community this thing. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| He's trying to manipulate the community. | ||
| Yeah, there you go. | ||
| I don't see this as being a good plan. | ||
| I mean, we've heard this sort of thing from him a lot over the years. | ||
| I can't imagine anyone actually has ever... | ||
| Stepped up in the way he's looking for. | ||
| He tells people to buy billboards and stuff. | ||
| The idea of just sending a $20 check to your local radio station as a care of Alex Jones or something. | ||
| As a tithe. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like somebody buying those little, oh, I donated in your honor things for your birthday, but instead it's to fucking WCGN over there. | ||
| Yeah, it's ludicrous and also kind of sacrilegious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But also WBCR in Tennessee would be my bet for the last station that will ever abandon Alex. | ||
| So it's wise for him to signal to them in this sad spiel. | ||
| They're not really interested in playing Alex's show from a profit or business standpoint. | ||
| They are strong ideological allies. | ||
| That station, it plays a ton of GCN programs, and their website is just a bunch of ads for Longevity products. | ||
| And poorly formatted articles about the evils of fluoride. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I was thinking about it as I was looking at their website. | ||
| It feels like this is the future of what Alex is going to have left. | ||
| If trends continue... | ||
| About GeoCities page? | ||
| All of his support will be living in those types of presentations, I guess. | ||
| There's a part of me that feels like maybe that is all that ever really was there. | ||
| Behind the glitz, the slickness, the overproduced shit, the artificial traffic. | ||
| Maybe that's all that ever was there behind a facade of bullshit. | ||
| And all the Johnny-come-latelys who get seduced in with fun conspiracies and stick around for a little while and then get disenchanted and either go to the hardcore stuff or come to their senses. | ||
| Like, once that in-and-out flow disappears, and you're left just with who's actually interested in what you're doing, I think you've just got a lot of, like you said, GeoCities ass pages. | ||
| The word that comes to mind is cesspool, Dan. | ||
| Bottom of a rat hole? | ||
| Yeah, I would take it. | ||
| Yeah, there's similarities. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So, we get some calls on this episode, and it's weird. | ||
| Alex doesn't seem to be eating, but he takes some calls. | ||
| And this one, caller, expresses a sentiment that you are very familiar with, and I think you share a little bit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it's something that I'm a little bit more worried about than I was before, based on Alex's rhetoric. | ||
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So what's going to happen when Trump is not around? | |
| Because we know Trump's going to win in a landslide. | ||
| He's waking up a lot of people, and a lot of things are happening because of him. | ||
| But my biggest fear, Alex, is what's going to happen when we don't have You know, our commander-in-chief, you know, and what's going to happen after Trump comes in. | ||
| That's my biggest fear. | ||
| I totally agree with you. | ||
| That's my biggest concern. | ||
| And we better start making preparations for them to steal 2020 because he knows they're fake polls. | ||
| He's done internal polling. | ||
| We've done it as well. | ||
| No, you haven't. | ||
| No. | ||
| The idea that you've expressed sometimes about the fear of Trump not stepping down or people not accepting the, you know, like... | ||
| Not just Trump, but Trump supporters not accepting any outcome that doesn't go their way. | ||
| I still think it's a little bit... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Not paranoid, but a little bit... | ||
| Inevitable? | ||
| No. | ||
| I think there is a part of it that could be getting ahead of ourselves a little bit. | ||
| Making a lot of really grim predictions about something that may or may not happen. | ||
| But... | ||
| When you tune into Alex's show and you hear it just being bandied about between Alex and consistent callers, this idea that it's an inevitable conclusion that Trump is going to win in a landslide. | ||
| And so if the reality that comes about doesn't match that, we've already decided it's a stolen election. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| So that does trouble me a little bit. | ||
| Anything is justified now. | ||
| From a narrative and rhetoric standpoint. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| It's inevitable that that will be the argument Alex makes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Now, to the extent that people agree with him or Trump agrees with that, I think that we would be out of our depth to speculate. | ||
| But Alex definitely, it seems like he's gone that way. | ||
| So, Alex has Caitlin Bennett on, the Kent State gun girl who was turned into an Alex Jones employee. | ||
| And she's on because, I guess... | ||
| I didn't look into this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because it was a strong don't care situation. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Apparently Dan Crenshaw, the congressperson who has an eye patch. | ||
| He is in favor of red flag laws for guns. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And this is a big problem. | ||
| Right. | ||
| For Alex and all his gun weirdo friends. | ||
| Yes, well, they respect a man who looks like a pirate, but they hate a man who hates guns. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And just like a couple days before this, Alex was screaming about how Hassan Piker didn't show Dan Crenshaw appropriate respect in a YouTube stream. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It was like, wait, wait, now you hate? | ||
| Dan Crenshaw, what is going on here? | ||
| Eh, don't worry about it. | ||
| It's jarring. | ||
| But they don't like him, and apparently, Caitlin Bennett said something about him, and then he sent her a DM or something. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And then Caitlin Bennett made a video where she read the DMs. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Like I said, didn't look into this, because I don't care. | ||
| I will only listen to this if she read it in a pirate place. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no. | ||
| We're not going to listen to any of her reading the messages. | ||
| I just have a couple of clips because I think they're demonstrative of more important things. | ||
| The first is Alex doing what he always does when anyone else has a story that he wants to co-opt. | ||
| What's the name of your Dan Crenshaw video so folks can find it? | ||
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It's just Dan Crenshaw messaged me. | |
| That's right. | ||
| It's on Infowars.com and Newswars.com. | ||
| Dan Crenshaw messaged conservative. | ||
| Put that back up for me real quick, guys. | ||
| I'd really appreciate that, the InfoWars story. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Dan Crenshaw, message, conservative reporter. | ||
| What? | ||
| The congressman reached out to InfoWars, Caitlin Bennett. | ||
| He's trying to piggyback this. | ||
| She has it on her own channels. | ||
| She has it on her own separate thing. | ||
| On a different name. | ||
| What's the name of that? | ||
| Oh, let me direct you to Infowars. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| It's Infowars. | ||
| What was the name that you were saying? | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| It's Infowars.com. | ||
| Caitlin, do you work for me? | ||
| He's doing this all the fucking time. | ||
| It's so awesome to see every single time there's someone in there that he needs to, I guess to use his term, vampirically suck the attention economy that they're getting. | ||
| Just like, oh yeah, yeah, you got your thing. | ||
| InfoWars is covering it. | ||
| This is where everybody's gotta go. | ||
| News Wars also. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So in this next clip, Caitlin talks about how she doesn't mind being criticized. | ||
| What? | ||
| She did make a video about Dan Crenshaw sending her a message, but she does not care about people criticizing her. | ||
| Do these people listen to themselves? | ||
| Certainly not for stretches longer than 30 seconds, because that's how long this clip is, and I think it's self-contradictory. | ||
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The fact that he felt the need to message me shows that he's bothered enough to know that what he's doing is wrong, and I feel like he's so deep into the rabbit hole of supporting red flag laws that when he gets called out, he has to try to insult somebody to maybe... | |
| I guess silence them. | ||
| I don't know if he was trying to silence me or if he was just trying to make me feel bad for calling him a rhino. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But what he doesn't understand is I've been through so much. | ||
| I get ridiculed so much from the right. | ||
| It doesn't bother me. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| I mean, in that clip, she does say that she called him a name. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's so bothered. | ||
| He's got to call me names. | ||
| He's so bothered by me calling him names. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Guys, come on. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| Just stop it. | ||
| He's trying to silence me or trying to make me feel bad? | ||
| For me! | ||
| Trying to silence him and make him feel bad. | ||
| What an asshole! | ||
| I don't understand his actions at all, Dan. | ||
| I'm not coming out and defending Dan Crenshaw or anything, but I am going to say, go fuck yourself, all of you. | ||
| You deserve each other, you stupid, stupid people. | ||
| So we get into this red flag law stuff a little bit. | ||
| And before we do, I want to say that I don't believe Alex's position on red flag laws, which for the most part is... | ||
| Hey, we already have laws in place about, like, if you say you're going to kill someone, they can lock you up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't believe that position. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| I don't believe it at all, because certain things that he uses as examples of, like, we already have laws in place, first of all, they don't work. | ||
| Second of all, like, is there any circumstance wherein Alex wouldn't scream about how this person was being oppressed until after the fact of them committing... | ||
| A murder. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There is no circumstance. | ||
| Like, even if someone beat their wife, or there's domestic violence, he would still be like, that doesn't mean that they're denied the God-given right to protect themselves. | ||
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Yep. | |
| It's bullshit. | ||
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Yes. | |
| This idea that... | ||
| He would even go so far as, they need two guns in that house, she should have one to protect herself against him! | ||
| So when the El Paso and Dayton shootings happened, Trump came out and signaled that he was interested in better background checks and possibly these red flag laws. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
| And Alex was like, eh, don't worry about it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now... | ||
| Correctly. | ||
| He has a really interesting perspective on this now, and I'll get into it after this clip. | ||
| And I sat, not on the fence, but I wasn't too loud about it. | ||
| When Trump came out and said, okay, I don't like mentally ill people getting guns. | ||
| We've got to stop them getting it. | ||
| Maybe some of these red flag laws would be good. | ||
| Well, then he learned what was in the red flag laws, how unpopular it was. | ||
| And Trump shelved it and said, we're not going to do that. | ||
| He said, because it wouldn't do anything. | ||
| All these people said they're going to kill people. | ||
| So, like, this is his position here. | ||
| Like, it's pretty wild. | ||
| Like, the idea that Trump read this bill and then somehow was like, oh, this is all no good. | ||
| We've already got it covered. | ||
| That's the position that he's putting forth here, which seems like a problem. | ||
| Because up till this day, August 28th, since those shootings, Alex's narrative has been completely different about what Trump did. | ||
| He tries to present the position that Donald Trump... | ||
| What he was doing, right? | ||
| So Donald Trump is such a genius. | ||
| So there's a shooting. | ||
| And he knew the Democrats wanted to take away everyone's guns. | ||
| So what he did was he pretended that he was open to gun registration, gun regulation. | ||
| So what that did... | ||
| Is that lured the Democrats out into the open? | ||
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| So then they revealed that they wanted to take away everyone's guns and they'd been caught in a trap because Donald Trump had exposed them as being the gun grabbers that they are and they walk away with nothing. | ||
| That was his narrative? | ||
| That was. | ||
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Oh. | |
| That's been his consistent narrative. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All the way through. | ||
| Anytime Trump says anything about being open to gun reform. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's his position. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That Trump is just trying to rope a dope. | ||
| So now his position is that Trump was open to gun reform, but it wasn't good gun reform, so he's against it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That one makes way more sense. | ||
| And also, they're sort of mutually exclusive. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Both cannot exist as Trump's response to the red flag laws, which makes it troubling. | ||
| You don't even get it, man. | ||
| Trump can keep stuff from himself. | ||
| It's so top secret, Dan. | ||
| Well, here's the problem. | ||
| Alex makes both arguments on this episode. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| You know, again, listeners have been really angry about the red flag stuff, and I told you if they pass it or try to pass it, I'll get really mad. | ||
| I've been told by NRA board members, not one but two, that have met with Trump that he said, watch, I'll tell them, because it's all emotional, that okay, we'll do something, and then they'll ask for everything and won't get it. | ||
| This is completely contradictory shit. | ||
| He's trying to present two impossible-to-coexist narratives as to Trump's response to this gun legislation. | ||
| Legitimately, he is abusing the shit out of his listeners. | ||
| This is not okay. | ||
| He's expecting them to believe both things. | ||
| I'm trying to reconcile any possibility, because in one circumstance... | ||
| Trump is a brilliant tactician. | ||
| He's a schemer. | ||
| He's got it all wrapped up. | ||
| He's got everybody's reactions around his little finger. | ||
| 69-dimensional chess. | ||
| All right. | ||
| In the other scenario, he was just lying from the jump. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| I think in one situation, he's a schemer, and he's trying to manipulate the Democrats into overplaying their hand. | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| I mean, in... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In the second scenario, though, he just read the bill and didn't like it. | ||
| He's a good-faith actor who has a position. | ||
| Right. | ||
| See, now, that's what I interpreted as lying. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| In reality, the real version of him being a good-faith actor with a position is he's just lying. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's not mutually exclusive. | ||
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Yes. | |
| No, those make perfect sense. | ||
| So Alex gets another call, and this guy is a real fucking weirdo. | ||
| I mean, what else can you say? | ||
| Weirdo. | ||
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And also, before y 'all let me go, I have body armor for your reporters. | |
| No! | ||
| And I'll be happy to give it to y 'all if you would like to have it. | ||
| Well, you're very nice to say that, sir, but I don't want to put you through any expense. | ||
| In fact, if the reporters want body armor, we should probably buy it for them. | ||
| It's kind of got to that point, but we'll do that. | ||
| But you sound like a pretty level-headed, smart police officer. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
|
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Plot twist. | |
| He did not say that that was a police officer. | ||
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It was. | |
| You son of a bitch! | ||
| What a plot twist. | ||
| It's surprising that law enforcement is a tool of the fascists. | ||
| What a plot twist. | ||
| It's so strange. | ||
| That's never happened before. | ||
| I would love to give your employees body armor. | ||
| You sound very sensible. | ||
| You sound so reasonable. | ||
| A policeman. | ||
| Ah, a police officer. | ||
| So, if you'll recall, on a recent present-day episode, we learned that Alex had dispatched a team of three employees to Hong Kong. | ||
| For a grand total of two and a half to thirty seconds of speaking. | ||
| As far as I know, yes. | ||
| To cover the protests, he sent these employees over there, but could not remember the third person's name, and I'm thrilled to report that he still doesn't. | ||
| Tomorrow in the fourth hour, we're going to have reporters who were embedded with the Hong Kong Resistance who just got back. | ||
| They are going to be hosting the fourth hour, Savannah Hernandez, and of course, Greg, Reese, and others. | ||
| So look for that tomorrow in the fourth hour. | ||
| A lot of other surprise guests and things. | ||
| That's so rude. | ||
| Do you remember the same two people's name? | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| That's so rude. | ||
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Whoever that third person is, you gotta get a new job. | |
| Get out of there. | ||
| Just not give a fuck about you. | ||
| And here's why you're in a way better position than those two others. | ||
| Nobody knows your name, man. | ||
| You can just take InfoWars off your resume right now and move on. | ||
| Yeah, whoever you are. | ||
| Just get out. | ||
| There's time. | ||
| You can flee. | ||
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Please make sure he never learns your name. | |
| Yeah, be others forever. | ||
| The damage has not been done. | ||
| For two years I worked as others at InfoWars. | ||
| Don't put that on your CV. | ||
| As long as it's others, then I think we're okay with it. | ||
| So we have one last call from the 28th, and it's Alex taking more calls. | ||
| And what we see here is really interesting. | ||
| Spoiler alert, he gets a caller who accuses him of being a Zionist shill. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| What's interesting about this is how Alex responds to it. | ||
| Reasonably. | ||
| Okay, let's go ahead and go next to California and Adam. | ||
| Adam, thanks for calling and thanks for holding her on the air. | ||
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Alex, this is Adam with nomorenews.org. | |
| I've been one of your biggest fans for 10 years and perfect topic today to talk about treason in China because ever since the rise of Trump, I really studied it deep and realized that all the accusations and rumors about you being a Zionist. | ||
| Apologists, propagandists are all right, and Trump is a completely Zionist agent, owned by Adelson, APAC, ZOA, bailed out by the Rothschilds in the early 90s for billions of dollars with Wilbur Ross, who's now our Commerce Secretary. | ||
| He got the top Zionist award in 1983 from the JNF, the Jewish National Fund founded by Theodore Herzl. | ||
| Are you already getting why this is weird? | ||
| He's not saying anything. | ||
| No. | ||
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At all. | |
| He's letting this guy talk. | ||
| He is not saying anything at all. | ||
| In a way that he doesn't do with anybody. | ||
| Did he fall asleep? | ||
| He might be chewing. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No. | ||
| Is he okay? | ||
| Did he stroke out? | ||
| Is he staring off into the middle distance wondering what could have been as a child? | ||
| No. | ||
| This is what he does with callers like this. | ||
| He wants them to be able to speak their piece. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know why, but he... | ||
| He doesn't see the need to interrupt them, yell at them like he does with other callers who have sort of contentious points. | ||
| Other callers that he wants to converse about what their topic is, he'll engage, interrupt them. | ||
| He'll be like, oh, not only that, but... | ||
| This is not a natural reaction that Alex has to calls. | ||
| And it goes on. | ||
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Totally controlled by Netanyahu and Kushner. | |
| Trump donates to Kushner, who is Chabad. | ||
| He donates to Chabad. | ||
| They consider Christianity idolatry. | ||
| That's who Trump supports. | ||
| And you, blaming everything on China, deflecting from who really is controlling and conquered this country is treason. | ||
| George Washington would accuse you of being a traitor, and you should be ashamed of yourself for covering up for who really controls Trump. | ||
| Okay, can I talk now, Adam? | ||
| I barely think about Israel. | ||
| And I've seen the mental illness of people out there that say that I work for Israel or I get talking points from Israel. | ||
| Israel is, again, a diverse group of people, different parties, just like the U.S., just like Russia. | ||
| I've been accused of working for Putin. | ||
| I've been accused of working for the Vatican, Israel. | ||
| I'm an American. | ||
| I'm a Texan that believes the Bill of Rights and Constitution. | ||
| I'm trying to create a big tent to bring everybody around Americana. | ||
| This is just like, this is crazy to me. | ||
| This is not how he responds to things. | ||
| Yeah, it's fake. | ||
| It's very specifically in situations like this. | ||
| I mean, there are other situations, too. | ||
| This is totally scripted. | ||
| This whole thing is a fucking fake. | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| I guarantee it. | ||
| No, I don't believe so. | ||
| Listen, one, the original caller's bullshit non-ending list was clearly... | ||
| Well, I'm sure he wrote it out to confront Alex. | ||
| Second... | ||
| He's not responding to any of Alex at all either. | ||
| This is not how a lunatic like the guy from nomorenews.org has a reasonable conversation with a lunatic like Alex Jones. | ||
| Both of them are pausing. | ||
| This is scripted. | ||
| Nobody actually talks. | ||
| You and I don't talk like that, man. | ||
| Your conspiracy about this is not something I'm going to support. | ||
| It's totally scripted. | ||
| I accept. | ||
| I don't believe that necessarily that needs to be true. | ||
| I could see a situation where someone who holds the beliefs that this guy does could compose himself in order to confront Alex in the way that he is on that call. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And Alex has received this criticism enough that he could have a sort of boilerplate way he responds to it after the call is done. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| None of that is necessarily... | ||
| Indicative to me of some sort of scripting. | ||
| What is weird to me is the way that Alex allows him to speak for over a minute uninterrupted and then at the end says, can I talk? | ||
| Can I make my point? | ||
| That is weird to me. | ||
| That is inorganic and is a choice Alex is making. | ||
| I don't know why he's making that choice. | ||
| It seems very weird. | ||
| I don't think it means that he's fucking supported by Israel or he's funded by Israel or a shill for the Zionists and he wants to deflect this criticism or whatever. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| My working theory in the past, because I've heard this behavior from him before, that's very out of line with how he interacts with callers. | ||
| My working theory is that he wants accusations and criticisms of him to look like this. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He wants the perception of people who don't like him to be, oh, they all just think Jews run the world. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I understand why that has some utility for him, but it's very weird. | ||
| It supports my theory that it's scripted. | ||
| On the other hand, I genuinely believe this. | ||
| Like, this is not a conspiracy theory. | ||
| I genuinely believe this is specific. | ||
| I mean, the only thing that I would say that does support your possible theory here is how regularly talk shows have fake callers. | ||
| Well, not just that, but he's such a shitty actor. | ||
| He doesn't believe what he's saying about Alex. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I mean, listen to the tone of his voice. | ||
| That's a terrible line read because he's supposedly a righteous guy calling out Alex Jones for being a traitor. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Now, the only other thing that I will give you, though, is this. | ||
| It is entirely possible, based on the way Alex said, can I talk now, in such a resigned, almost childlike tone. | ||
| Is that that is exactly how he was berated as a child. | ||
| And for the longest time, that's how his dad would completely come down on him. | ||
| And he'd be like, can I talk now? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what to make of it. | ||
| It's just weird. | ||
| So we jump to the 19th now. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| 29th. | ||
| Yes, excuse me. | ||
| August 29th. | ||
| And Alex begins the show by laying out the full breadth of his conspiracy. | ||
| Did we get to the bottom of the rabbit hole? | ||
| No, we didn't. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| He just lets that slip. | ||
| Maybe another backpack got stolen. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| A lot of backpacks. | ||
| But there's an immigrant conspiracy. | ||
| Alex spells it out in this clip. | ||
| Ilhan Omar demands United Nations take over America's border crisis. | ||
| So we see this all over the place. | ||
| We see them announcing it's the UN that supposedly runs this, and a lot of us are like, it's incredible, Jones, you're right. | ||
| How did you know this? | ||
| How did it come true? | ||
| Because it is the international and world government law that the UN will use giant third world populations that they first stage in regional camps for six months to a year, literal brainwashing facilities. | ||
| They then organize them, and they then flood... | ||
| The borders of the Western nations where then UN camps are set up to receive them. | ||
| Then they are deployed to certain regions and to leftist political parties who then sign them up for welfare and jobs and then keep them as a sub-slave class and they skim off the top their wages and their welfare and then give them IDs, driver's license, unionize them, and then weaponize them. | ||
| We're glad you explained that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So how do I join the subslave union? | ||
| Union local 454. | ||
| I do like that he did put a little jab at unions in there, too. | ||
| They unionize them for fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Give them a union, and then we'll steal all their money and shit. | ||
| He's got to be sure that he touches all of his bases of things he hates. | ||
| Immigrants, Democrats, the UN, unions. | ||
| Just make sure it's all a melange of all that stuff. | ||
| Just a smorgasbord. | ||
| I'm going to be brutally honest with you. | ||
| It might be partially because my sleep's been a little disrupted the last few days. | ||
| A little construction on my building. | ||
| And maybe I don't have as much patience as I usually do. | ||
| Whereas maybe I would try and... | ||
| Humor some of these ideas. | ||
| My response to a clip like that is, dude, that is fucking crazy. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And I think that might be a more rational response. | ||
| Absolutely a more rational response. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Maybe I don't need to explore the idea of refugee camps being brainwashing centers. | ||
| Maybe I could just say, go fuck yourself. | ||
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That's stupid. | |
| Maybe this is part of me finding a healthier balance. | ||
| You're telling me that the UN is setting up refugee camps for six months to a year to brainwash people, and then they're going to move them to different camps on the border, and then they're going to leave them on the border for a while, and then they're going to be deployed to the leftists, and then the leftists are going to take them and give them welfare and jobs, which I thought you would be for them getting jobs, not being on welfare, because if they have jobs, then they're going to be able to join society. | ||
| It's a complicated portrait. | ||
| Yeah, he... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You might accuse me of punting, but I'm going to say go fuck yourself. | ||
| No, go fuck yourself. | ||
| Stop it if you're unionizing sub-slaves. | ||
| Alex has something that he's going to use as justification for his ideas about immigrants and it being this grand conspiracy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And what do you know? | ||
| It's bullshit. | ||
| This is an absolute stated world government-admitted plan to bring down Western nations and to bring in 600 million refugees by 2050 to the U.S. That is the stated goal, the past resolution by the U.N., 600 million. | ||
| That's three times our population who will be totally kept. | ||
| And controlled and dominated by the globalists. | ||
| This seems, first of all, unrealistic. | ||
| Well, first of all, it's not three times our population. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| But also, even if it were... | ||
| I mean, it's a ridiculous idea. | ||
| Just from a numerical standpoint. | ||
| So what he's doing here is he's just lying about a 2001 UN report titled, Replacement Migration, Is It a Solution to Declining in Aging Populations? | ||
| If you notice, you look closely, that title, it's a question. | ||
| The report is exploring hypothetical scenarios and looking at ways migration could be helpful in solving those problems in ways that it might not. | ||
| Sort of a report. | ||
| The 600 million figure comes from an extreme example in one of the hypothetical scenarios raised in the report where low birth rates would require large numbers of migrants to come in to stabilize the workforce among other population-based societal considerations. | ||
| There were other scenarios with lower numbers, but Alex chose this one because it's the highest and it makes his point more sensationally. | ||
| At no point is this report recommending anything. | ||
| At no point is it laying out a plan. | ||
| It's just a report looking at population-based hypothetical scenarios that goes on to look at whether or not migration could be part of a solution to those problems in those situations. | ||
| Alex is a complete liar, but he knows that the image of 600 million non-white people would really scare his white identity-obsessed audience, so he pitches the story that way. | ||
| The goal is to create animosity towards immigrants and even dehumanize them so his audience doesn't even see them as people with their own motivations anymore, but as weapons of the globalists trying to take down the white Western civilization. | ||
| In that way, his narrative is not only deeply manipulative and based on lies and misrepresentation, it's also deeply racist. | ||
| This is all this is about. | ||
| Sometimes I think the UN has contests to see who can write the most terrifying paper name to white conservatives. | ||
| Like, they've had so many great, well-written, like, the question is just a question that mirrors the deepest, darkest fear of conservatives. | ||
| Like, should migrants replace some of our population? | ||
| Like, they'll just kill themselves. | ||
| Very sensitive folk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very sensitive. | ||
| So this is a lot of bullshit. | ||
| And Alex is preoccupied with it. | ||
| But there's other news here for the 29th. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| That is that the Queen of England has allowed the shutting down of Parliament at the request of Boris Johnson. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which will obviously have consequences and probably not great ones. | ||
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God. | |
| All of that, you realize all of that is what some Simpsons writer wrote in 2010. | ||
| Like, not literally, but the idea that Boris Johnson, a shitty, pointless columnist, eventually took over the fucking UK government and successfully ended democracy in Britain? | ||
| That's bananas! | ||
| It's pretty wild. | ||
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That's bananas! | |
| So Alex has a slightly different take than you might expect on this? | ||
| How great is it that a shitty columnist can take over the UK and shut down democracy? | ||
| Now, obviously, that's behind it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it turns out he likes the Queen now. | ||
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Okay, what? | |
| Bottom line, that we are now in the middle of a global civil war between nation states and free people and multinational corporations allied with authoritarian regimes like China. | ||
| It's lining up along the same battle lines of World War II. | ||
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You notice the Queen just suspended Parliament and got behind Brexit. | |
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| So, it's a little misleading to say that the Queen suspended Parliament. | ||
| It's more the case that Boris Johnson requested Parliament be suspended and the Queen said, okay. | ||
| That's kind of her role, though, as a ceremonial monarch. | ||
| If she began to legitimately meddle in the affairs of government directly, it could be a real problem. | ||
| The monarch has roles like appointing the Prime Minister, but that doesn't mean that the Queen just gets to choose whoever she wants as Prime Minister. | ||
| That would be fucked up. | ||
| The accepting of Johnson's request will probably lead to a greater likelihood of a no-deal Brexit and disastrous outcomes for the British economy. | ||
| But it also would have been way out of line for her to not accept it. | ||
| Because he's the head of state. | ||
| Experts consulted by the BBC said, quote, it would have been impossible for the Queen to turn down the Prime Minister's request. | ||
| Like, literally, for her to have rejected the request would have led to a whole different conversation about the return of monarchical rule and would have set a horrible precedent. | ||
| I know, but it really would have been funny. | ||
| Like, it would have been really funny. | ||
| But... | ||
| What's funnier to me is Alex speaking well of the Queen. | ||
| Yeah, no, that's ridiculous. | ||
| Because from my position, I'm looking at this, and I'm seeing that in the very recent past, Alex has said very clearly that the Queen and her entire lineage are Transylvanian vampires and literal demons who are the heads of a decade-long plan to install a one-world government. | ||
| They're legitimately evil incarnate to him, and every single thing he said about the British royal family... | ||
| Has been over the top and cartoonishly scathing. | ||
| To see him now be like, the Queen is on the side of the Patriots. | ||
| It's an absurd narrative shift that should tell anyone paying attention that Alex doesn't mean a goddamn word he says. | ||
| He's just making all of this up as he goes along. | ||
| She had a deathbed conversion at the very end of her life. | ||
| She forewent all of those blood transfusions and vampiric knowledge and instead gave in to Boris Johnson and Trump. | ||
| And the Patriots. | ||
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And the... | |
| Patriots! | ||
| It's so weird to me. | ||
| And, like, I thought that might just be a one-off thing, just a throwaway, like, ah, the Queen's on our side now. | ||
| Didn't we talk about, we were supposed to kill the Queen two episodes ago? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I lose track. | ||
| But that certainly is in line with, oh, no, I mean, definitely he was saying arrest her. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, absolutely. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| But I also think that was in 2013. | ||
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I'm sure. | |
| Things change. | ||
| All things are the same. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I thought it was just a one-off, and he was just saying, like, ha-ha, globalists, suck it. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Your queen is now with us. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Or something. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| But he does get back to it a little bit later, but he gets sidetracked. | ||
| So he first needs to... | ||
| See, like I said at the beginning of this episode... | ||
| I wanted to see if Alex's behavior was changed at all or if anything was notable after Trump insulted Fox News and made an indication that we need a new outlet. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Which does open up a space for Alex. | ||
| I would have thought that maybe you'd be able to see some indication, and there's not much. | ||
| But Fox News does come up, and Alex doesn't seem all that interested in Trump's shitting on them. | ||
| Ooh, I want that. | ||
| Grab that. | ||
| Trump confronted by Fox hosts about criticizing the network. | ||
| Except for four or five hosts on there, it's backstabbing. | ||
| Its polls are fake. | ||
| It's run by a bunch of globalists. | ||
| And so, yeah, Trump better watch out because they're planning to have him unelected. | ||
| They're planning to steal that election. | ||
| CNN has a big article out about, you know, don't be so sure in 2020 that Trump's going to lose because, you know, he might steal it. | ||
| They're getting you ready for a contested election. | ||
| So are you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Yeah, but he's only doing it because they're doing it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I don't see him being all that interested in the actual conversation that's happening about Trump and Fox News, which seems to me almost like the best ploy. | ||
| Like, don't even get into the muck of that fight. | ||
| Just say, like, oh, Fox News, who gives a fuck about them? | ||
| They're mostly globalists anyway. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| It almost seems like the smoothest play, which is out of character for Alex. | ||
| Yeah, that is interesting. | ||
| That is interesting. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| Because you would have expected him to either have gone so far in the bootlicker direction of like, Trump, I'm right here for you! | ||
| Been here day one. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'll lick your toes. | ||
| Or to dancing on the grave of Fox News kind of situation. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I've been saying this forever and now Trump is finally, you know, he's seen through the bullshit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he may get there eventually, but it's weird that he's not. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because he should be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Based on everything about his prior actions and... | ||
| Yeah, Alex, are you okay? | ||
| Yeah, it seems weird. | ||
| Drop a line. | ||
| Are you doing... | ||
| Actually, please don't ever... | ||
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No. | |
| Ever. | ||
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Ever. | |
| Leave me alone. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| So he sent those three people, two of whom he remembers their name, to Hong Kong. | ||
| But it turns out there was another person in Hong Kong. | ||
| Others? | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| What was he doing there? | ||
| He wanted to check out the scene. | ||
| No! | ||
| Yeah, I think his wife is from China. | ||
| I'm not... | ||
| It's a pretty consistent thing that I don't care about people's personal lives. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So I have not looked into Paul Joseph Watson's personal life at all. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| But I remember Alex saying that. | ||
| So that might explain why he was in Hong Kong. | ||
| But whatever the case, he's on. | ||
| And he has a little bit of an angle on the situation over there. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| With the protests. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I think that this is really indicative of how InfoWars is covering... | ||
| The protests in Hong Kong. | ||
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There's not this ridiculous partisan bickering in Hong Kong. | |
| The society is largely united behind the protesters. | ||
| And again, they're largely united against this migration invasion, which is subverting their society. | ||
| There was a quote from one protester there who said, quote, they drain our resources from healthcare to education and are diluting our culture, making it increasingly pro. | ||
| Beijing, which is what we see happening in the West with this mass migration from the Middle East and North Africa. | ||
| So they have many of the same concerns that their society is being subverted, diluted, and the power that they once held is being transferred to China as a result of this mass migration weapon. | ||
| So, that take is an assault. | ||
| That take is an assault. | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson just tried to twist my arm into a fucking pretzel with that stupid... | ||
| Ill-informed, nonsense-ass take. | ||
| Migrants? | ||
| That's what Hong Kong is? | ||
| No, but it's actually really interesting. | ||
| And I think that that clip really sums up Infowars' position on the protests in Hong Kong. | ||
| It's purely an attempt to co-opt the protests into being about their marquee issues. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| There are a number of instances of this throughout the episode, their coverage of the Hong Kong stuff. | ||
| It's like, oh yeah, you saw that video of the protesters cutting down the facial recognition tower, and that's just like us getting kicked off Facebook. | ||
| There's instances like that. | ||
| But I think that this is the clearest cut one where you can see the duplicitousness and the manipulation. | ||
| The people in Hong Kong have complained about people from mainland China coming to Hong Kong and eroding their political autonomy. | ||
| Alex and Paul Joseph Watson scream all day about the UN paying invading masses of third world refugees to come to the United States in order to brainwash them so they'll alter the racial and ethnic demographics in the country, which will lead to more people voting against Alex's preferred political positions. | ||
| It doesn't take too much examination to see the massive chasm between those two arguments. | ||
| They're close enough that if you blur the edges, you can create a narrative out of it. | ||
| Yeah, if you know nothing about either. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, they're basically just trying to take vague similarities. | ||
| And try and turn it into, like, ah, aha, the Hong Kong protesters are info warriors. | ||
| And, yeah, so that's basically how they're covering it, which is one of the reasons why, like, even if you support the protests in Hong Kong, you still can't side with Alex. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| You still can't find common cause, even about things you agree on, because they are trying to use things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They are always acting in bad faith. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Always. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Always. | ||
| So we get back to the Queen now, and Alex has a position on this that I think is unhealthy about the Queen's... | ||
| She needs more hats. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| I feel like that's an unhealthy thing. | ||
| I think it's healthy. | ||
| This is worse. | ||
| He's trying to ramp things up to start a new world war. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| They have no soul, the Chi-Coms in China. | ||
| Human-animal cloning, total experimentation, mass murder of Christians, Buddhists, millions in forced labor camps. | ||
| I mean, they are what North Korea wishes it was. | ||
| But the Queen of England suspending Parliament for the first time in 400 years. | ||
| Just happens to be a 400 perfect number. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| That signifies, like the cutting of a diamond, the constellation of resistance of the power structure. | ||
| The axis, if you want to call the globalists and the chi-coms, and their leftist system, and then the United States, the UK, the liberty movement. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| And how those groups are going to fight. | ||
| And the fact that the Queen of England has weighed in, looking at how the breaks are happening, like in a game of pool or billiards, over in the UK, if you call it billiards, tells us a lot. | ||
| Had some footy? | ||
| And you know who in the last two configurations of this sided with the US and with England, and that's the Russians. | ||
| And Trump knows that and has been trying to get the Russians to side with us in this. | ||
| And the globalists through the CHICOM has been working through our media to say, Trump's a Russian agent so that in this new world war that's here, that's economic, cultural, and military, that Russia will sit on the sidelines. | ||
| Alex wants a world war. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| Well, are you sick of this? | ||
| Are you sick of telling everybody that a world war is coming? | ||
| Fucking hurry it up! | ||
| He's running out of gas! | ||
| Also worth noting, Alex believes that both World War I and World War II, where he's appealing to the UK siding with the United States, were orchestrated by people from both of those countries in order to create the League of Nations and then the UN. | ||
| And that's the plot of Independence Day. | ||
| I don't know why he wouldn't, based on every other thing he's ever said in his fucking life, he wouldn't think that another world war was also orchestrated in order to create something on the other end of it. | ||
| No, we didn't! | ||
| Every single other instance in his fucking career is... | ||
| Why is your cynicism gone now? | ||
| Why is your skepticism gone? | ||
| Because we got Hitler Jr. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Man, I was blown away because I had that moment while he was listening to it. | ||
| I was like, why is he saying the Queen over and over again? | ||
| It's not like she actually... | ||
| She's just there. | ||
| And then I was like, oh no, he really does think that the Queen can choose. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He really does think that the Queen is looking at both sides of the Brexit issue and decided that Brexit was right. | ||
| Not that she's just a weird old lady with a lot of hats. | ||
| I think he either thinks that or... | ||
| He knows the reality, but he thinks that the narrative of we've flipped the queen is much better for him. | ||
| Oh, it is much better for him. | ||
| Because it's a huge victory for the American patriots to have got the queen on their side. | ||
| We got the queen on our side. | ||
| She's subverting parliament. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Never been done in 400 years. | ||
| She's subverting a democratic institution. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So we're on her team. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| So the question of how long it's been since something like this has happened depends on how you define what's happening in the UK. | ||
| Technically, Parliament is disbanded basically every year for a break, and Boris Johnson is arguing that that's all this is. | ||
| That's clearly a lie, but that's the argument that's being taken up by the pro-no-deal Brexit supporters. | ||
| That's, you know, it's just business as usual. | ||
| Even if the break that's being discussed is the longest Parliament would have had since 1945, which you might recall is at the end of World War II. | ||
| What's interesting is Alex is using the anti-Brexit people's position in terms of when this happened last. | ||
| But he's also wrong about it being 400 years ago. | ||
| Alex is referring to what happened back in 1629 when King Charles I dismissed Parliament, that he shouldn't be using that as an example of what's going on now, since it totally works against his argument. | ||
| Charles dismissed Parliament because he believed that he had to divide Yeah, I mean, even without that historical context... | ||
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He should see this as a coup that is trying to destroy... | |
| He hates the Queen. | ||
| She is a demon. | ||
| But now she is... | ||
| I hate this! | ||
| Right. | ||
| I hate it. | ||
| Based on everything he thinks about the Queen, shouldn't this actually give him... | ||
| Reason to pause and be like, maybe I'm on the wrong side. | ||
| Yeah, for once. | ||
| Maybe this isn't good. | ||
| For once. | ||
| I'm not saying sign up with China. | ||
| You don't have to. | ||
| I'm not saying you have to do that. | ||
| You don't have to go all the way. | ||
| But if your position and conception of this is this demonic creature who sucks blood of children and is creating a one-world repressive system is all of a sudden pretty cool with me, that should make you question what you're doing. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I've said a lot about him, but Obama just tweeted out that he loved me and that Brexit is great, so... | ||
| We got Obama, guys! | ||
| It's time! | ||
| Guess whose birth certificate was never in question? | ||
| Everybody, we love Obama now! | ||
| This, to me, is why this is so important. | ||
| It indicates so strongly that none of the things he's ever said about the Queen, about the monarchy, about any of that shit means a lick. | ||
| About anybody. | ||
| Well, by extension, yes. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And some people might be like, hey, Dan, you're splitting hairs on that 400 years thing. | ||
| And I normally wouldn't do that. | ||
| But the only reason I am, because it's only 10 years off, but the only reason I am is because Alex made a big deal of the big 400 number. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Big round 400. | ||
| Because if you're going to say it's important that it's 400, that's because he means that a big round number means there's some sort of providence in God behind it. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Yeah, which is not true. | ||
| 410 years is less the godliest of numbers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 420 years? | ||
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Meh. | |
| So... | ||
| We're saying, from our position, Alex should believe this is a non-democratic thing. | ||
| Right, because it is. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because it fundamentally is a non-democratic thing. | ||
| It is, but that's not the Queen's fault, that's Boris's fault. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| She's just doing exactly what ceremony demands that she do. | ||
| If she behaved otherwise, it would be even more fucked up. | ||
| It would be wildly fucked up. | ||
| It would lead to a better conclusion, possibly. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| And if you're a utilitarian... | ||
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Or a world war. | |
| Right. | ||
| Or the complete disillusion of the British government, because now we're listening to the Queen. | ||
| Now we're going to listen to the Queen, then. | ||
| It would be insane. | ||
| There is no good solution to that. | ||
| No, the Queen just shouldn't be there. | ||
| And that's Boris's fault. | ||
| Yeah, the fact that the Queen is even there is a ridiculous nonsense. | ||
| But, oh, man. | ||
| So, all that aside, Alex should be strongly against this. | ||
| And he knows that what she's doing is anti-democratic. | ||
| And you're like, but wait a minute, the British royal family is super corrupt, there's a bunch of pedophiles in it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| What? | ||
| That's not your answer to that. | ||
| And they're not even British themselves, but they know who's winning. | ||
| They sat on the sidelines to the last minute, and now the Queen just flipped her dictator switch. | ||
| What? | ||
| Because the Brits did vote to get out of the Euro. | ||
| The Euro's been sabotaging things, trying to sabotage that economy, and so she just dropped the trillion pound bomb on them. | ||
| Man, this is history. | ||
| That's all I got to say. | ||
| So I'm going to do my best when we come back to lay this out. | ||
| And this is going to be spectacular. | ||
| These alignments are real. | ||
| The world is now in a bipolar structure. | ||
| I don't mean that psychologically. | ||
| That's what it's called. | ||
| Two fronts. | ||
| And Russia, as usual, is going to be the wild card right in the middle. | ||
| And Russia, I believe, will side with the West in the final equation. | ||
| He is also pitching this as a war against Islam and all that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Along with China. | ||
| This isn't a world war. | ||
| This is the war. | ||
| This is the war. | ||
| The war to end all war? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| This is like the God and the devil are going to show up and they're going to have a nice little knockdown drag out. | ||
| I do think that Alex feels that way. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Like there's a holy aspect to this new world war. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| That he is excited about happening. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's unhealthy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, we've never had people who thought that way before. | ||
| Never. | ||
| And it's also a position you really, really don't like to hear out of a staunch, isolationist, anti-intervention kind of anti-war guy. | ||
| Like a Ron Paul guy. | ||
| Like a real Ron Paul guy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| A guy who's just like, you know what, we all have to get involved in foreign things. | ||
| No. | ||
| I want a world war. | ||
| Well, yeah, obviously. | ||
| But that's so I don't have to get involved with the world. | ||
| Do you not understand? | ||
| I don't even know what to say about someone who's putting forth positions that are not just advocating for a world war, but being excited about the prospect of it. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Because he is. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| He is like, it's all happening. | ||
| It's all coming about. | ||
| We got the queen on our side now. | ||
| It's just like those other world wars that went so great that no one died in. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's inhuman almost on a level. | ||
| It's so callous. | ||
| I just hate it. | ||
| It reminds me so much of Patton Oswalt's joke about the apocalypse. | ||
| Wouldn't you want to die in the apocalypse? | ||
| You know, I don't want to, oh, how did you die? | ||
| Oh, it was super boring, but I died in the fucking apocalypse, man! | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex wants that, I guess. | ||
| He does. | ||
| He really does want to die in the apocalypse, because then he's a fucking, he's one of the final men and shit like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So in this last normal clip of the episode, Alex said he was going to come back from break and really get into... | ||
| The situation with the Queen. | ||
| Solve that Queen sitch. | ||
| And this just leads me to believe that he doesn't have a good handle on things. | ||
| The fake polls show 55-60% went out. | ||
| Well, they already voted to do it. | ||
| So she says, I'm suspending Parliament for five weeks so that the government can really negotiate a deal with the EU that actually gives us the power to vote on our sovereignty because 93% of UK laws... | ||
| Are set and controlled by the EU. | ||
| And it just hit me. | ||
| We've got to get Lord Moncton on. | ||
| Why did that just hit you? | ||
| No, we don't. | ||
| Why did that just hit you? | ||
| It was all the way over there. | ||
| And Nigel's not answering calls anymore. | ||
| Nigel Farage doesn't want to come on InfoWars anymore. | ||
| It's doubtful. | ||
| So we can still get Moncton. | ||
| I don't think Nigel ever wanted to come on InfoWars. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| So, I mean, the idea that this is like a queen decree. | ||
| It's a clear indication that he's not grasping the situation. | ||
| And then the presentation of it is they did this to have more time to negotiate this Brexit deal is also completely out of line with every reading I've had about this. | ||
| Every person who's... | ||
| No one is presenting this as, oh, this is so we'll free up more time and we can resolve this smoother. | ||
| It's a clear attempt to sabotage. | ||
| Those negotiations on the part of one Boris. | ||
| Yeah, that he is allowed to speak in public without people slapping him for lying straight to everybody's face is amazing to me. | ||
| Everything that he has said about why they're doing that is so bald-faced. | ||
| He might as well have a sign that says, I'm lying directly above his head while he says anything. | ||
| It's bananas. | ||
| You should... | ||
| You should be forced to try harder than that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, I told you that's the last normal clip. | ||
| And that's partially because I have one thing that's just surreal to play. | ||
| I told you earlier I was going to play a commercial. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We had a surreal commercial. | ||
| I didn't want to leave the episode on that note. | ||
| We've been seeing this trend in the present day that's just upsetting. | ||
| There's these... | ||
| I want American expansionism to come back. | ||
| Let's fucking buy Greenland. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| There's Inuits on there. | ||
| Buy it up. | ||
| Fuck them. | ||
| Get them out of there. | ||
| They'll give them each $12 million. | ||
| You have just real domestic problems the way he sees the United States. | ||
| And now you're seeing... | ||
| Like, trying to co-opt the Hong Kong protests and then at the same time encouraging and supporting and praising the idea of another world war. | ||
| You just have, like, one of the most fucked up, out-of-line dudes. | ||
| And I don't want to end the episode on that note. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| So, like, just bouncing back and forth from our political alignments, they are co-opting... | ||
| A protest against an oppressive authoritarian regime to prop up their preferred oppressive authoritarian regime supporting protesters ostensibly while at the same time supporting a return to a monarchy. | ||
| In the UK. | ||
| Or at least Alex's perception of the act. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Well, in reality, it's her not interfering with government inappropriately. | ||
| Alex perceives it as pushing the dictator button. | ||
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| But what I'm saying is we're just bouncing around from different angles on oppressive authoritarian regimes. | ||
| Depending on the expediency. | ||
| It ultimately doesn't matter to him. | ||
| He wants the authoritarianism. | ||
| He just wants it to be his. | ||
| And he must crush China in the Middle East in order to achieve that, I guess. | ||
| And that doesn't have anything to do with anything other than they don't look like him. | ||
| It doesn't feel like there's much more going on than that. | ||
| It really doesn't. | ||
| So, lest we leave with that bitter pill still lingering on our tongues, I present to you, Jordan, a commercial that Alex has. | ||
| For his new protein bars. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is so fucked up. | ||
| I mean, I honestly understand that this is an attempt to be funny, and there's a portion of me that thinks, like, this is kind of funny. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But also, you'll see. | ||
| This is absurd. | ||
| Well, today, InfoWars Live Protein Bar. | ||
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Mmm. | |
| I just devoured your cousin, InfoWars Live Protein Bar. | ||
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They taste like candy bars. | |
| This is what I want. | ||
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This is what I need. | |
| But my God, there's no filler. | ||
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But my God, it's solid. | |
| Protein bar, high as quality, 12 bars, high as quality. | ||
| And you can buy into it easily. | ||
| But you're going to be like, what in the world is going on here? | ||
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Well, today, at 4 or 5, protein bar. | |
| I just devoured your cousin at 4 or 5. Protein bar. | ||
| Mmm, delicious vanilla. | ||
| Mmm, meat my tummy. | ||
| So, I can't hear that as anything other than a response to our theme song. | ||
| Either that or Tim Heidecker is doing some contracting work? | ||
| Or DJ Danarchy's gone rogue. | ||
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DJ Danarchy! | |
| Working for the enemy! | ||
| No way. | ||
| I think there's some problems with that. | ||
| He would never buy into that bullshit Japanese sharp-edged pop. | ||
| So the big joke that he has in there, I guess, is I just ate your cousin. | ||
| It's him looking at one of the bars like, I just ate your cousin. | ||
| Oh, because it's the bar's cousin. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| I love that so much more as a complete non-sequitur. | ||
| It is better as a non-sequitur. | ||
| It's way better as a non-sequitur. | ||
| In context, it's just like, oh, Alex's brain is weird. | ||
| The other thing that I think when I hear that, because I had to listen to that a couple times, just because... | ||
| It was bizarre, and he plays it a couple times during the show. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| The thing is, if you really listen to it, they couldn't edit that and put it together without some clips where he sounds completely drunk. | ||
| Oh yeah, absolutely. | ||
| He sounds so fucked up. | ||
| I genuinely thought that they were altering the audio. | ||
| I think they have to on some of them in order to make it match whatever. | ||
| But it doesn't sound good. | ||
| No. | ||
| And then also if you watch the video of the commercial, it's the same thing with that clip of him drinking the bone broth where he looks disgusted by it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He takes a bite out of the protein bar and he doesn't look like a person enjoying a protein bar. | ||
| Yeah, but it's like how much protein is in these things? | ||
| Tons. | ||
| They're not fucking around. | ||
| Every time I turn and look at it, it's like a normal protein bar at a fucking Walgreens or whatever shit is like 12 to 20 grams of protein. | ||
| Hearing the words InfoWars protein bar, I'm like, you can't make a thing out of that much protein. | ||
| 75 grams of protein. | ||
| All it is is a muscle. | ||
| It's just a big muscle. | ||
| It's just a big muscle. | ||
| It's called the constipation bar. | ||
| Delicious vanilla. | ||
| Oh, you won't poop for a month. | ||
| It's, uh, yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I feel a little bit of qualms with playing that even. | ||
| Because I know it's Alex's, like, it's an attempt to get attention. | ||
| That's catchy and, like, goofy and non-threatening. | ||
| It's kind of a way you can try and penetrate things and people make fun of him for how stupid that is. | ||
| He wants it to go viral and everybody's like, look at Alex Jones! | ||
| Your cousin is in there intentionally as the little... | ||
| Bait on the hook. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And I get that. | ||
| But at the same time, it's embarrassing. | ||
| He's a fucking adult. | ||
| Like, he's become so desperate for any means of promoting himself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so many avenues are blocked off to him. | ||
| He's become so inundated in this weird, meme-y kind of sphere that, like, this is what he's forced to do. | ||
| No, that's exactly... | ||
| I know you look older. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're still 45. This is not becoming behavior from a 45-year-old man. | ||
| It sounds exactly like a Japanese commercial that John Travolta would have starred in right before he made his comeback in Pulp Fiction. | ||
| You know, whenever it was like, you're losing your hair, you're not going to make it, go to Japan, do a couple commercials, get a quick cash out, and then come back and Tarantino will revive your career. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I hope sales are good, but based on every indication that I see... | ||
| From all of Alex's behaviors. | ||
| No. | ||
| Don't think this is moving protein bars. | ||
| They're just putting more protein in each bar. | ||
| So that brings us to the end of this. | ||
| I'm glad we made it through. | ||
| I'm exhausted, and I think we survived in one piece. | ||
| I think so, too. | ||
| And I also just, I'm not, I don't feel... | ||
| God bless the queen. | ||
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| God save the queen. | ||
| I don't feel passionate about this stretch of time. | ||
| I don't feel all that, like, interested in it. | ||
| It's not... | ||
| What, the present? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex is not interesting to me. | ||
| I don't think Alex is interesting to him anymore, which is a major issue. | ||
| Yeah, that's a part of it. | ||
| He's just deteriorating into a complete monster, but I already know he's a monster, so there isn't much revelation of things. | ||
| Now, granted, you see him trying to co-opt these protests, and you're like, oh, that's pretty fucked up. | ||
| Trying to misrepresent the Queen. | ||
| It's fucked up in the sense that it reveals so much about how little his narratives mean, even to himself, and how easily everything changes. | ||
| Like, the Rothschilds could become good. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Of course they could. | ||
| With just one day's work. | ||
| Well, if they supported Brexit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| One day's work, the Rothschilds could be rehabbed in Alex's narratives. | ||
| So, there's that, and I guess there's some value to that, but I don't know. | ||
| I need him to pick it up. | ||
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| Alex? | ||
| Consider this like an editorial note. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pick it up. | ||
| Bring some heat, man. | ||
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Come on. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And we'll see if he does. | ||
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That'd be nice. | |
| Yeah, in the future. | ||
| But for now, we will be back. | ||
| But we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
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| We're also on Facebook. | ||
| We are. | ||
| We're on Twitter as well. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan. | ||
| I was just going to roll through there. | ||
| I told you I'm tired. | ||
| I was going to give you the assist we were going to call it on. | ||
| Nobody would have noticed. | ||
| We're both professionals. | ||
| We could have just kept it rolling off the tongue, but you had to bring attention to it. | ||
| Groggy. | ||
| We also have places people can download. | ||
| Indeed, you can go to iTunes. | ||
| Apparently you can listen to us on Spotify now. | ||
| If you would like to get... | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Failing that, iTunes is always still there. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, iTunes is there. | ||
| But we'll be back on Monday. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I am the Jesus Lizard. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |