Today, Dan and Jordan retreat to the past to continue their investigation into Alex Jones' path toward Sandy Hook denial. In this installment, something seems to be up, as the gents find Alex beginning to accuse a lot of people of being actors. Alex also warns his audience that the Globalists are trying to get them eaten by coyotes.
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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and endure knowledge fight need money stop it andy and kansas andy and kansas it's time to pray andy and kansas you're on the air thanks for holding me I love you. | |
| Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk just a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Have you ever successfully bluffed someone? | ||
| I mean, I play poker quite a bit, yeah. | ||
| I mean, like, have you been caught in a lie and been able to lie yourself? | ||
| Great poker story. | ||
| Great poker story. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Everybody loves a good bad beat story. | ||
| No, I bluffed somebody off a full house once with a pair of twos. | ||
| You bluffed somebody off a full house? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I ended up winning this poker tournament that we were throwing for a friend of ours who was supposed to move away. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the whole reason we threw the poker tournament was in order to give him the money. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Basically, we knew that we didn't want to be like, hey, here's a bunch of money, go on. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But he wins a tournament and then, holy shit, everybody feels good. | ||
| He had a good time playing some cards, too. | ||
| Yeah, so you fucked him. | ||
| Well, I was trying to lose the hand. | ||
| I had a pair of twos. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| You were really going for a try. | ||
| And so I ended up winning the tournament, and I felt really bad about it, because he wouldn't accept the money that I had won. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| And so what I did is I threw one of my trademark parties afterwards. | ||
| I don't know where I picked this up. | ||
| It might have been from a movie or some friend. | ||
| There's a bathtub full of 40s party. | ||
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I have no idea what movie that could have been from. | |
| You buy a bunch of 40s, and you fill your bathtub with ice, put the 40s on ice, everybody who comes to the party gets to take 40s out of the bathtub. | ||
| That is the worst night I can think of. | ||
| That was a great time. | ||
| I did have to kick somebody out of the party, though, because they were trying to sneak multiple 40s in a bag out of the party. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| You can't trust people. | ||
| You just can't do it. | ||
| There's always a bad apple, Dan. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| That's probably the thing that comes to mind most when I think of Bluffs. | ||
| I think that's a great story. | ||
| Great bathtub full of 40s party. | ||
| This is a podcast where I know a lot about theme parties and Alex Jones. | ||
| And I genuinely don't know anything about either. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Very uncommon. | ||
| Structure? | ||
| No, that's not true at all. | ||
| Very similar structure to most of our episodes. | ||
| Although there's an interesting thing at play. | ||
| And we'll get to that. | ||
| But before we do, I'd like to take a little moment to say thank you to some people who have signed up and are supporting the show. | ||
| So first of all, Stephen, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Thanks, Stephen. | |
| Next, John V. Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Fair point. | ||
| That might be John V. Oh, that's a good point. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| If it's John Voight, he's definitely not donating this podcast. | ||
| He doesn't like us. | ||
| Next, Craig. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I like to believe that's Craig Manning from Degrassi. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| He's a fictional character. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| I like to believe it's Drake. | ||
| He is Jimmy Brooks from Degrassi. | ||
| Also, thank you to Thomas. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I like to think that that's Thomas. | ||
| Are we doing this? | ||
| The English muffin brand. | ||
| I was going to go with St. Thomas Aquinas. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Next, Joe. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Joe. | ||
| Damn it! | ||
| If we're going by the news, it is Joe Walsh. | ||
| Hashtag Joe Walsh. | ||
| Primary 2020. | ||
| Next, I'd like to say thank you to some people who donated on an elevated level. | ||
| We appreciate it very much. | ||
| So, Conrad, Ian, and Eric, thank you so much. | ||
| You are all now wonderful technocrats. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Crikey, mate. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right? | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimps so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare... | ||
| Infowar on you. | ||
| Thank you so much, Conrad. | ||
| Thank you so much, Ian. | ||
| And thank you so much, Eric. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much to all three of you. | ||
| We appreciate it very much. | ||
| And if you are listening and you like what we do and you want to support the show, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show. | ||
| We would appreciate it. | ||
| It'd be incredibly nice. | ||
| We are trying to do something here, and it's trying to not have any ads or any kind of external... | ||
| Mechanisms involved in our show. | ||
| It's just the two of us sitting in a room. | ||
| And you all make it possible, so thank you very much. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Also, big announcement. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I finally gave in, and our show is now on Spotify. | ||
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Oh, is it? | |
| Yes. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| I finally clicked those few buttons in order to get our show on Spotify. | ||
| So people can find that there. | ||
| If you have friends who maybe have thought about listening but didn't have... | ||
| iTunes? | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| Anyway, it's an option now. | ||
| Say we're in the forest. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that is step one of my fan service. | ||
| So how many plays does it take before we get a cent? | ||
| Six to 12,000? | ||
| I don't predict we ever will get anything. | ||
| And that's okay. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| So, Jordan, today what we're going to be doing is we're going to be going over the span of March 5th. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| March 15th to March 22nd, 2013. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We're back in 2013. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the reason that going so long on this is that you were on vacation. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Last week. | ||
| And I decided that during that period of time, one of the things that was opened up to me was, I'd get through a lot of this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because we are stagnating a little bit in 2013. | ||
| Yeah, a little bit. | ||
| A little bit of a holding pattern. | ||
| It's Alex's fault. | ||
| No, we didn't do it. | ||
| There is a little bit of a, hey, we went back to try and figure out when he starts doing the Sandy Hook Crisis Actors stuff. | ||
| And we are just like, wow, Alex is just on. | ||
| Piers Morgan shit. | ||
| He is all over the place. | ||
| And it's not like you can just skip ahead. | ||
| I mean, you literally have to listen to the episode before you can figure out it's a pile of shit. | ||
| You know, you can't just not listen to an episode. | ||
| It's one of the frustrations of my job. | ||
| Otherwise, we're going to miss out on some Somali pirates. | ||
| That's what's going to happen, yeah. | ||
| And also, if you don't listen to all of them, then you don't really understand the development. | ||
| What's behind the... | ||
| The rhetoric, which is what I'm most interested in in this. | ||
| So we're going over this stretch of a little bit, like about a week of Alex's show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think we might have some big developments. | ||
| So it's good that we went ahead and did this. | ||
| Also, I should say that during this time, there's something that I don't have any clips about. | ||
| But it does bear mentioning that it's happening. | ||
| Because Alex is concerned about it. | ||
| And that is the 2013 Cypriot financial crisis is coming to a head. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So the banks in Cyprus are going through some trouble. | ||
| And I was thinking about it, and I'm like, well, I'm not the best at international finance and trying to explain to people it would take a whole lot of time, and then it would be like 40 minutes of this podcast, me explaining how much of the debt was bad Greek. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Loans. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And the tax haven Stannis of Cyprus. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, they put out a good album, but after that, they really kind of mismanaged their money, and they... | ||
| Come on. | ||
| I think you're thinking of something else. | ||
| What am I thinking? | ||
| I don't know what you're thinking of. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Cypress Hill dance! | ||
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Oh. | |
| God damn it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I was hoping you would jump there first, because I didn't want to do it. | ||
| I didn't want to do it. | ||
| Insane in the membrane. | ||
| All right, fine. | ||
| So I just decided that, like, Alex's take on it is very standard for any time there's some sort of a money thing. | ||
| And that is that the globalists are doing this and they're trying to cause global collapse. | ||
| As opposed to looking at it and being like, well, this is some of the lingering effects from the 2008-2009 situation. | ||
| So I just decided that it's, in and of itself, is an important global event. | ||
| For what Alex is doing, it's not that important, except for a couple of ways that it extends into other areas. | ||
| And I'll talk about those, but we don't have the time to break down this full situation. | ||
| We're all fine with that. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
| So here is an out-of-context drop from today's show before we jump in. | ||
| Hanging with the devil, man. | ||
| You know, it's fun. | ||
| Get down with Satan. | ||
| Woo, yeah! | ||
| A little scat. | ||
| A little scat about the devil? | ||
| Little Ella Fitzgerald hanging out with the devil? | ||
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I like it. | |
| Just imagine Alex in a fedora. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Hey, daddy-o. | ||
| I like the change. | ||
| Like, we're not doing an old blues man hanging out with the devil. | ||
| That's boring. | ||
| Let's go all the way with scat. | ||
| Toss it in there. | ||
| Devil. | ||
| So we'll start on the 15th. | ||
| And what we find here on this episode is Alex is... | ||
| Just continuing his insistence that basically we need to go kill Kim Jong-un. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Now Kim Jong-un, in just a year in power, has a craven look in his face, completely insane, running around saying, nuke everyone, I'm all-powerful, because he's surrounded by a bunch of people drunk on the blood of their fellow humans. | ||
| And so I have said that I'm totally anti-war when it's offensive. | ||
| But when you are openly running around threatening to attack people, I mean, he's up there doing North Korean artillery drills? | ||
| Take him out. | ||
| You know, saying, I'm about to attack you and aiming weapons? | ||
| Boom, that's it. | ||
| I mean, you come to my house, have a gun in your hand, say, I'm about to shoot you? | ||
| I'm not going to say anything to you. | ||
| I'm going to get a gun as quickly as I can and shoot you. | ||
| You got free speech until you call for violence. | ||
| Oh boy, he should not say that. | ||
| That's a good line in the sand. | ||
| I would generally agree. | ||
| Although I would say that coming to someone's house with a gun and saying you're going to shoot them is not really a speech issue. | ||
| No. | ||
| There's a brandishing of a firearm. | ||
| There's other things that make that threatening other than the speech. | ||
| I don't think North Korea is withheld by First Amendment rules. | ||
| You don't think they're bound by the U.S. Constitution? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I'm just going to say that right now. | ||
| I think that this is interesting only in as much as Alex is on a pretty militant path as it relates to North Korea. | ||
| And that's interesting. | ||
| And then the second piece of it is just a tacit understanding that even though free speech is protected in the United States, there are limitations to it. | ||
| Which is important, because Alex pretends... | ||
| Six years later! | ||
| Six minutes later! | ||
| No, come on. | ||
| He does not. | ||
| Maybe not six minutes. | ||
| But even back in 2013, he has a lot of absolutist ideas about free speech. | ||
| And it's just incongruous with what he understands to actually be... | ||
| What free speech is about. | ||
| Now, Kim Jong-un surrounds himself with people who are drunk on the blood of their fellow compatriots, if I understand correctly. | ||
| Which might be more literal than you think. | ||
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Right. | |
| I imagine so. | ||
| Based on Alex's adrenochrome shit. | ||
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Right. | |
| He might actually be talking about them being vampires. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| It's unclear from context. | ||
| Well, do you think they force their fellow compatriots to get drunk prior to drinking their blood? | ||
| So they would have a high BAC? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Would you get a buzz or a greater buzz? | ||
| If you drank alcohol blood, you'd probably get less. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Be a depressant? | ||
| Well, I mean, just based on how much less alcohol there is in blood than in alcohol. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| I think just based on that. | ||
| What about alcoholic blood? | ||
| Well, that's just a cocktail. | ||
| Maybe they drink cocktails. | ||
| Have we considered this? | ||
| You've just invented the worst Bloody Mary. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let's end this show. | ||
| Let's get out of here. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex has been talking about Kim Jong-un a bit, and he's getting like that sort of the violence in him. | ||
| He's talking about, you know, people come to my door, I'll shoot them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it leads him to talk about his own violent history. | ||
| I'm the type of guy. | ||
| Somebody starts fighting me. | ||
| I don't care how big they are, how mean they are. | ||
| They come get my face. | ||
| I go completely caveman. | ||
| I can't help it. | ||
| Sometimes they, you know, don't ever get out of the hospital. | ||
| But the point here... | ||
| What? | ||
| I mean, that's just further evidence that he probably... | ||
| Probably technically killed a guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sometimes they don't ever get out of the hospital. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think that what he's describing, too, is like that is something that he needs to get help for. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Like if anybody, not just Alex Jones, was saying that like when I get aggressive, I turn into a caveman. | |
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| to exist in society. | ||
| That's fucking... | ||
| If you are, like, just completely controlled by the whims of violence... | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| You're messed up, man. | ||
| No, if at any point in time you have no higher order thinking, which is what he's describing, if you are simply overtaken by testosterone and adrenaline, then you're a danger to society. | ||
| Seems that way. | ||
| One who, much like somebody who would walk up to your door and have a gun in their hand, should be helped out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this talk of violence ends up sort of Alex bragging about his own violent tendencies, and then it spins out into him ranting about demons and Dianne Feinstein and the space-time continuum. | ||
| It's been a while since we've heard a good Feinstein insult. | ||
| It's about half an hour of just rambling about nothing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just... | ||
| Nothing going on. | ||
| Talent. | ||
| It's a true talent. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then he ends up talking about this other thing that has been developing, and that is that there are people, particularly Michael Moore, has been very public about this, that want the pictures from Sandy Hook to be released because there are tons of people who are saying it's fake. | ||
| And the motivation behind the desire to release the pictures, the crime scene photos, is to cut that off. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The accusations of it being fake. | ||
| Alex has a slightly different take on why they want to do that. | ||
| You see, they want to show you those little kids, their brains, their skulls, their blood, which is like a beautiful thing to them. | ||
| And your pain watching you have your heart touch, it's a joke to them. | ||
| Let's show them the dead kids. | ||
| That's how we'll get their guns so they can have their terror upon us. | ||
| I said I'd go to your calls, and I haven't done that yet, have I? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So that is what he believes. | ||
| He believes they want to show the pictures because they love it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is gross. | ||
| It's a real gross mentality. | ||
| They want to show the pictures because they love and glorify the death. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But they also want to use that to trick you into letting them take your guns. | ||
| Right, which will then inevitably lead to a tyranny. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And they'll get to see it all the time? | ||
| Yeah, I think that's probably behind that. | ||
| I think that's in the background. | ||
| But, I mean, there's so many mass shootings. | ||
| It's not like they're running low. | ||
| They love it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And this... | ||
| Sort of thinking extends into this next clip, where Alex is discussing an instance of when gun confiscation led to genocide. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| I bet this is 100% historically accurate. | ||
| This is interesting stuff. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I mean, the UN killed over a million people in Rwanda. | ||
| They ran that. | ||
| Over a million people. | ||
| You can't just say that. | ||
| Low estimates are 500, 600,000. | ||
| It's well over a million, actually. | ||
| And it's all the UN failed to stop it. | ||
| All the UN ran the whole deal. | ||
| After they took the guns, then they had the majority kill the minority, who'd been the majority. | ||
| And who they convinced, well, you know, turn your guns and we'll be friendly. | ||
| One black group against the other. | ||
| Well, they killed the Christians. | ||
| So, one quick but important point. | ||
| The vast majority of both the Hutu and the Tutsi in Rwanda were Christian. | ||
| There were religious figures who fought against the genocide and those that did not. | ||
| But the way Alex is presenting this, as if the Tutsi were Christians and the Hutu were not, is a complete lie. | ||
| That is absolute nonsense. | ||
| He is just talking shit. | ||
| To try and create some sort of a white victimhood narrative. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or Christian victimhood, which is... | ||
| In his mind, essentially. | ||
| Completely connected. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is interesting that he can turn a genocide in Africa between... | ||
| Two tribes of black people into a why are they being mean to white people? | ||
| I guess that that's so big a piece of his shit that that's why my brain did that little hiccup. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It is just the things I identify with are actually the victims of this. | ||
| It is very much a personalization in the wrong way. | ||
| So the situation that unfolded in Rwanda in the early 90s is an intensely complicated one. | ||
| There's no one factor that led to the genocide, and there's not one answer of what we as a global community could have done to stop it. | ||
| Answering either of these questions involves a lot of possibilities, a lot of missed opportunities to de-escalate the situation, to recognize the warning signs, and ultimately when you look back you see pretty much nothing but tragedy. | ||
| I know that Alex's solution to everything, literally, is just everyone should have a gun, but honestly, if you look seriously at the dynamics that were in play in Rwanda, that's just a childish solution to suggest. | ||
| Even if every Tutsi had a gun, it probably wouldn't have been able to stop the horrors that transpired. | ||
| One of the most indelible images of the Rwandan genocide is that of a machete. | ||
| The Hutu militia, the Interhamwe, used machetes as their primary weapon because guns were too expensive for what they had planned. | ||
| Machetes were reusable, whereas bullets were not. | ||
| There's no reason to assume that the victims of their violence were any more able to afford a gun, whether or not they had access to one. | ||
| An important consideration is that as the campaign of genocide began, Tutsi weren't allowed to own anything. | ||
| It becomes kind of a dishonest framing to say that they weren't allowed to own guns, since technically they also weren't allowed to own a chair. | ||
| But I wanted to get to the bottom of this. | ||
| I wanted to understand where the idea that Rwandan Tutsis had their guns confiscated before they were massacred. | ||
| I wanted to sort this out, because in all the materials I've ever read about the Rwandan genocide, that's not a detail that comes up. | ||
| And yet it comes up very frequently from these gun weirdos. | ||
| And they are implying that it happened before things broke out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So that would imply that all of the confiscation of property that happened during the massacres and the campaign of genocide... | |
| isn't what they're talking about. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I was trying to look into this. | ||
| I can only find two sources that all of the claims online trace back to on all of these strange, poorly constructed blogs. | ||
| The first is references made to the Nairobi Protocol for the Prevention, Control, and Reduction of Small Arms and Light Weapons in the Great Lakes region and the Horn of Africa. | ||
| This absolutely was a resolution that sought to limit civilian ownership of guns, but only what each participating country decided was illegal civilian ownership of guns. | ||
| I have to suspect that this is what Alex is referring to since he's talking about the UN in that clip, which was definitely involved in the Nairobi Protocol. | ||
| The Nairobi Protocol was largely targeted at the illicit trade of weapons internationally, and the language is pretty clear about that. | ||
| It does contain language about confiscating illegal weapons and registering authorized firearms, so I can understand why gun weirdos would be pretty upset about that. | ||
| The problem, though, is that when they try and link this with the genocide in Rwanda, that is a big problem, since the Nairobi Protocol was signed in April 2004, which is after. | ||
| That doesn't sound right. | ||
| I've seen folks try to link this to Sudan as well, but the war in Darfur started a full year before that Nairobi Protocol was signed. | ||
| This piece of evidence just doesn't check out from a timeline perspective. | ||
| Surprise. | ||
| It was, what was it, posted by a white geyser super great 6969? | ||
| Might as well have. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So that's one of the more concrete pieces, and I've seen that even discussed on the NRA's website. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Not specifically saying that this caused either of the campaigns of genocide. | ||
| But tying them together. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| In ways that are dishonest based on chronology. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The second piece of evidence I can find is a mini-documentary called Innocence Betrayed, which makes the argument basically that all genocides have been preceded by gun control measures, effectively saying that if you're for gun control, you knowingly or unknowingly are going to cause a genocide. | ||
| In the documentary, there's a section about Rwanda, wherein the narrator says, quote, laws and poverty have kept the victims from getting weapons to defend themselves. | ||
| As they're saying this, an image flashes on the screen saying, quote, all offensive and concealable arms are prohibited, with the words are prohibited outside the quotation marks. | ||
| Oh, that's lame. | ||
| But I'm not sure... | ||
| What that means. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't know where this is coming from. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And there's absolutely no indication of what it's citing in the film. | ||
| Wait, so there's quotes, but there's no attribution to the quote? | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| It just flashes up on the screen. | ||
| Well, it was a weird choice for softcore porn to have that as a theme. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Innocence. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Innocence Lost? | ||
| Innocence Betrayed. | ||
| Innocence Betrayed. | ||
| Man, I used to watch that on Cinemax when I was 10 years old. | ||
| They got great blurbs from Ron Paul and Ted Nugent. | ||
| So cool. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Good work, guys. | ||
| So those words are flashed up over an image that seems to be presenting itself as a legal document, but the heading says Gazeti Yaleta, which is the name of a major newspaper in Rwanda, the official Gazette of the Republic of Rwanda. | ||
| However, the name of it is actually Igazeta Yaleta, which makes me a little bit suspicious of the graphic. | ||
| They have a misspelled name of the Gazeti. | ||
| Every time we talk about these documentaries, there are always those little things where it's like, if you had a good point, you would have spent God, you would have spent enough time to present it like you weren't a piece of shit. | ||
| You can get away with this Project Veritas. | ||
| You can get away with this Alex Jones shitty documentary because people are going to believe it and they don't know any better. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| At best, what it is, is a superimposed, unattributed quote put over a picture of a newspaper. | ||
| That is referenced correctly. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So superimposed over this image of the supposed legislation are just the words Article 15, which is meant to suggest, I believe, that this quote is from Article 15, presumably from the Rwandan Constitution. | ||
| Article 15 of Rwanda's Constitution has nothing to do with guns. | ||
| It's about people having equality under the eyes of the law. | ||
| So it can't be referencing that. | ||
| But then again, the current Constitution of Rwanda was put in place in 2003. | ||
| So maybe Article 15 of the previous Constitution was about guns. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Their 1991 constitution did include an Article 15, and it says, quote, Asylum rights shall be recognized within the conditions defined by law. | ||
| Extradition shall be authorized only within the limits prescribed by law. | ||
| There's no version of Article 15 that exists in Rwandan law that has anything to do with the ban on, quote, offensive and concealable arms. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's the 15th article of the paper that day. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| See, it's not any Article 15. It's the 15th article. | ||
| It's a very easy mistake to make. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| They're using good MLA here. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So if you're keeping score, we have a misspelled heading of a Rwandan newspaper being used as an image over which a seemingly fake quote about Rwandan gun laws is being presented to argue that restrictive gun laws preceded the outbreak of the genocide with a cryptic reference to an Article 15 which doesn't seem to exist. | ||
| From everything I can tell, this is a complete fabrication. | ||
| And to my eyes, it seems like a disgusting appropriation of one of the most horrific chapters of modern history, bent to serve as a prop for this gun agenda. | ||
| Man, it's so good that that's an isolated incident, that we rarely see people bend these horrific genocides to their purposes. | ||
| It shouldn't surprise you to learn that this film was created by Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. | ||
| There it is! | ||
| One of Alex Jones' earliest sponsors. | ||
| The oldest snapshot of Infowars on the Wayback Machine from May 1999 has a link to their website. | ||
| Alex and the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership go way back. | ||
| The organization was started by a big old gun weirdo named Aaron Zellman and has been exercising absolute extremism on behalf of gun ownership since 1989. | ||
| Interestingly, with very little time on Google, I found both Larry Pratt and Ted Nugent associating themselves with Zellman and his group as a rebuttal to accusations that they're anti-Semites. | ||
| For Pratt, it was when he was fired from the 1996 Pat Buchanan campaign after it was revealed that he had ties to neo-Nazis and was at the Rocky Mountain Rendezvous. | ||
| For Ted Nugent, it was after he got in trouble for posting an image on Facebook asking, quote, So who's really behind gun control? | ||
| With pictures of Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, and ten other supposed gun grabbers, all with Israeli flags on their faces. | ||
| He legitimately might as well have been reposting stuff from Stormfront. | ||
| That is... | ||
| Bananas that you can get away with. | ||
| Oh, yeah, okay, fine. | ||
| So I'm friends with some neo-Nazis. | ||
| I'm also friends with Jewish Nazis? | ||
| Come on! | ||
| It's not about the Jew part. | ||
| It's about the Nazi part. | ||
| That's what I'm a fan of. | ||
| When Ted Nugent got in trouble for this image, his explanation is so laughable. | ||
| This is ridiculous shit. | ||
| Quote, in my rush between songwriting jams and musical recording frenzy... | ||
| No, Don, Don! | ||
| Get the fuck out of here! | ||
| Get the fuck out, Ted Nugent! | ||
| In my rush between songwriting jams and musical recording frenzy, all I saw was images of people dedicated to disarm us. | ||
| I made no connection whatsoever to any religious affiliation. | ||
| What? | ||
| Fucking what? | ||
| Really? | ||
| Brass balls. | ||
| The rush between it. | ||
| Oh, I'm too busy working on my ten different albums. | ||
| I haven't had a hit since 1979. | ||
| And everything after that, I fucking phoned in. | ||
| I'm not going to start. | ||
| Again, I should point out, the 12 Israeli flags are kind of the main point of that image. | ||
| They're really hard to miss. | ||
| Also, over the image of Senator Frank Luttenberg, there's even text that says, quote, Gave Russian Jew immigrants your tax money. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| It's very overt, this image. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| The craziest thing is I think it would be he would totally get away with it if he were just like, I genuinely didn't know that was the Israeli flag. | ||
| I'm Ted Nugent. | ||
| I'm professionally a moron. | ||
| Now, let's go with stranglehold. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So, while I definitely believe there are Jewish people who are opposed to gun control measures, I absolutely do, and I don't want to demean them or minimize that as an existing group, I'm positive that a large portion of... | ||
| Membership within even Jews for the preservation of firearms? | ||
| Firearm ownership? | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| I believe that a vast number of people who are in that group are probably concerned citizens, Jewish or otherwise, who just have feelings about gun issues. | ||
| Yeah, I'll take your word for it. | ||
| Well, I'm willing to believe it. | ||
| Yeah, I'm willing to believe it. | ||
| It seems like people like Ted and Larry have a relationship with them that feels too similar to someone saying, I can't be racist because I have a black friend. | ||
| The organization itself seems to serve as a crutch to some of these people who have connections with Nazis in order to minimize and distract from Sure, | ||
| sure. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I would implore anyone to look into, because that's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Alex is a little off on that. | ||
| Yeah, fuck you. | ||
| For a number of reasons. | ||
| That's only one of the large reasons why that 20-second clip we heard was completely fucked up. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex takes a call. | ||
| He goes to a caller. | ||
| And the guy brings up Illinois gun laws. | ||
| And then Alex says something that I find troubling. | ||
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Late last year, like mid-December, the Supreme Court gave Illinois 180 days to come up with some sort of right-to-carry law. | |
| No, that's happened all over the country, and they just ignore it. | ||
| Absolutely, yeah. | ||
| Their answer was to stage Sandy Hook. | ||
| And of course they did it. | ||
| Go ahead, sorry. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Oh, that's okay. | ||
| There's no doubt, by the way, folks. | ||
| So, the reason that I find that troubling is that I think that there's still a difference between saying that it was staged and saying that the globalists did it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think that this is much closer to the they used actors than saying, you know, they used a patsy or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, if it's staged, it's not... | ||
| They're not saying that it was, like, directed or anything. | ||
| They're saying it was a production. | ||
| It was... | ||
| Made up. | ||
| It was all there to play out in front of our eyes, and none of it actually happened. | ||
| It's not as overt as I need it to be, but it's much closer. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| The language that he's using, it appears to be heading in that direction, and this is closer to the bad side of it. | ||
| I mean, it's all bad, but it's closer to that. | ||
| Terrible side than he has been in the past. | ||
| I can understand it being a hyperbolic metaphor, but, I mean, when you say staged, if you're going by what words mean... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it also has to live in the context of so many of the fringe online theories that are already going around. | ||
|
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Absolutely. | |
| So when he tells a caller, like, this was staged, it's not like that is a foreign idea to a lot of conspiracy weirdos at this point. | ||
| They will hear that as him saying that these were actors. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Most likely. | |
| And that we haven't really talked about it so much. | ||
| Chances are, if he's been following along with the online debate, outside of his show, the online fervor turned to it was entirely fake pretty quickly. | ||
| So that he's coming back to it now and saying it was staged most likely means he's relying on more current infospheres. | ||
| It fuels that way. | ||
| So, our last clip here from the 15th, Alex has an interview with a guy who got fired from the 1996 Pat Buchanan campaign because it came out that he had links to neo-Nazis. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Larry Pratt. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And he wants to talk about gun laws. | ||
| And I think he thinks he has a really good point here, but I would say he doesn't. | ||
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Didn't Feinstein get a wonderful comeuppance from Senator Cruz? | |
| Oh, my. | ||
| Well, Senator Feinstein, if the Second Amendment permits the banning of certain guns, then by that logic, does the First Amendment permit the banning? | ||
| of certain books, but others being protected. | ||
| And does the Fourth Amendment permit the invasion of some people's privacy, but not other people's privacy? | ||
| She went off on that. | ||
| So I think what he thinks is like this really genius point is that like, ah, there are shades of, there are degrees of the Second Amendment, Dianne Feinstein's saying. | ||
| But does that mean there's degrees of the First Amendment? | ||
| In the first clip of this episode, Alex said, yes, there are. | ||
| There absolutely are. | ||
| And there are tons of books that have been banned in U.S. history. | ||
| Only Ted Cruz and these right-wing morons could see the comeback. | ||
| Oh, so if something has nuance, does everything have nuance? | ||
| As an own. | ||
| That's the only way that you can, you have to be a lunatic to be like, what are you saying, that not everything is absolute? | ||
| You're stupid, is a good comeback. | ||
| Free speech is protected by the Constitution, but there's limits to that free speech. | ||
| There's no reason to think that, you know, owning a firearm. | ||
| Is protected by the Second Amendment, but there are limitations to owning a firearm. | ||
| It's absolutely completely in line with every understanding of how societies work. | ||
| It's sociopathic the way this thinking works. | ||
| So he has an interview with Joel Skousen, but I don't really care. | ||
| The Skous. | ||
| It's very boring. | ||
| And Alex just wants him to... | ||
| Say that it's a good idea to attack North Korea, basically. | ||
| And Joel Skousen is eh. | ||
| I hate offensive wars, but preemptive wars aren't offensive wars. | ||
| Duh. | ||
| It seems like it's mostly a plug for Joel Skousen's book, Strategic Relocation. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And so they're talking about the possibility of nuclear war. | ||
| Doesn't that mean that you need to know where to bug out to? | ||
| Got to get Skousen's book. | ||
| Seems intentional. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So we get to the 17th, because the 15th was a Friday. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we jump to the Sunday show. | ||
| And Alex has a big, big narrative that will continue throughout pretty much the rest of our time. | ||
| I don't think I have a ton of clips of it, but he brings it up over and over and over again. | ||
| And it's police state shit. | ||
| Oh, they're coming. | ||
| The guy facing, what is it, five to seven years in prison with a state felony. | ||
| In Florida, because he released a couple of heart balloons for his girlfriend when she came out of the house. | ||
| And the state police saw it, came over, said, did you release those balloons? | ||
| He said, yeah. | ||
| Hey, that's environmental damage, a felony, and he's going to get convicted and go to prison. | ||
| Law and order balloon unit. | ||
| Special balloon unit. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| So there seems to be an element to this case that Alex Jones does... | ||
| It seems like he's intentionally leaving it out very conspicuously. | ||
| In this episode, he just keeps going on and on about this guy who was arrested because he released a bunch of balloons and a romantic gesture for his girlfriend, which is a crime in Florida because of environmental protection laws. | ||
| Apparently, it turns out, you can't release more than 10 balloons in a 24-hour period, which is admittedly a very strange limit. | ||
| You know, it's very weird. | ||
| You had to have found the story behind that law, right? | ||
| I didn't. | ||
| There was no story behind that law. | ||
| There has to be a story behind that law. | ||
| I'm sure it was just a weird negotiation that happened. | ||
| They're like, alright, 10's fine. | ||
| But with who? | ||
| For what? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Or if you have a group of people, can each of you release ten? | ||
| That's a great question. | ||
| I don't know the... | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| So what? | ||
| Are you telling me that the Fourth Amendment says that I can only release so many balloons? | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| The man in this case was Anthony Brasfield, and while he was initially charged with a felony, prosecutors obviously didn't file a case based on that. | ||
| It would have been literally impossible for them to succeed with that case, and they knew it, so they didn't even pursue the case. | ||
| This was absolutely 100% an instance of a cop looking for a charge to give someone. | ||
| And when nothing immediately popped up, the cop fell back on, well, you released too many balloons as a strategy. | ||
| I need to harass someone. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Turns out you had a lot of balloons. | ||
| I want a jury trial on that. | ||
| The important variable that Alex is leaving out of this coverage, intentionally, I believe, is that Brassfield is a black man. | ||
| Alex is intentionally leaving this out of the story because he wants the angle to be that environmental protection laws are just a Trojan horse to bring into the police state. | ||
| The last thing he wants is for his audience to consider for a second that maybe what's actually going on here is that this is maybe an instance of harsh over-policing of minorities, which is probably a more realistic way to look at the story based on the reporting I saw on it. | ||
| That does seem to be what the case is. | ||
| I fucking hate stories like this. | ||
| Yeah, it's a bummer. | ||
| There's so many of these bummer stories. | ||
| And especially you hate to see the reality of the story be warped by someone like Alex in order to serve their purposes. | ||
| Well, and it's like the McDonald's story that everybody still pulls that bullshit on where the woman... | ||
| The lady with the cup? | ||
| The lady with the cup. | ||
| The hot coffee? | ||
| There's still that like... | ||
| Well, you bought coffee. | ||
| Oh, you didn't know it was going to be hot. | ||
| And then you read into it and you're like, oh, no, no, this is a story about corporations fucking over everybody. | ||
| It's not a story about a woman who didn't know coffee was going to be hot. | ||
| I 100% admit that I do believe that she knew coffee was hot. | ||
| Okay, I will agree with you. | ||
| I don't remember the details of that case. | ||
| I will agree with you. | ||
| I remember looking into it a long time ago, but I don't remember the specifics enough to speak on it. | ||
| But I'm going to trust your version. | ||
| Yeah, the basic point of it is... | ||
| Corporations were cutting costs wherever and whenever they could to the detriment and pain of everybody around them, and they'd already been warned not to do it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They should have been sued way before this. | ||
| And it's just an infuriating thing, because every time you look at this, these are turned into these shorthand, like, oh, women don't know that coffee's supposed to be hot. | ||
| And you're like, fuck you. | ||
| You're not mad at the right person. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Corporations are people. | ||
| They are... | ||
| So, Alex goes off ranting about this. | ||
| The guy who gets arrested for balloons and is going to go to prison for five years because of environmental cops or whatever. | ||
| This is a natural transition for him to talk about how he got jammed up for giving out flyers at South by Southwest. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| As we've discussed already. | ||
| Yeah, great. | ||
| So he complains about that. | ||
| And this caller has a really good question for him about that situation. | ||
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What I haven't heard you report on and am very interested in, though, are the number of internal affairs complaints that you and your street team have filed against the various officers in these various departments. | |
| It is important to file these, even if you don't think you'll get a satisfactory outcome, because at the very least, you're getting these reports on record, just like if you're tracking crime. | ||
| No, no, you're right, and I always say we should be tougher with people. | ||
| I myself have a soft heart and don't even want to get them in trouble, because I know the dirtbags, according to them, at South by Southwest ordered it. | ||
| So, this is so damn indicative of what's wrong with Alex's approach toward the supposed tyranny he imagines he's fighting against. | ||
| He complains that he was a victim of Gestapo jackboot tactics while he was out just trying to give out free magazines during South by Southwest. | ||
| The story has now become embellished to involve not only the actual police trying to intimidate him, but also hired goons threatening his street team, which is a pretty seriously fucked up thing to happen, if it were true at all. | ||
| Alex's inaction proves to me that this story is most likely fiction. | ||
| Because it clearly demonstrates that what he says is the problem, tyrannical police, is not something he's at all interested in solving. | ||
| He wants attention out of this. | ||
| He wants to create the appearance that he's having his rights trampled on. | ||
| He wants the opportunity to turn this into a sales pitch. | ||
| But what he doesn't want is to use this as an opening to help bring about real change in the system he makes money by railing against. | ||
| Because that would be bad for business. | ||
| First, they came for my free speech rights. | ||
| And I lied about it and screamed about it on the radio. | ||
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And I made a lot of money. | |
| And nothing happened. | ||
| Then they came for minorities' rights, and I lied about it and screamed about it on the radio and made a lot of money and nothing happened. | ||
| And then I just made a lot of money and nothing happened because I'm not going to do anything good for fucking anybody. | ||
| I mean, if your only reason to exist as a business is to scream about out-of-control government and police oppression, why would you ever try to decrease the level of out-of-control government and police oppression? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can't put yourself out of business. | ||
| Why would you ever go through the painful and difficult process of advocating for real change and pursuing it through the proper channels when just creating a fictional version of your own struggle and yelling about them on the radio is a much more profitable strategy? | ||
| Alex's excuse that he has too good of a heart to file internal complaints is such a cowardly cop-out. | ||
| If he saw a dollar sign in it, he'd be filing those reports. | ||
| And honestly, him filing internal reports really only works against his interests. | ||
| If he's making all this stuff up, which he almost certainly is, then he could get in trouble for filing false complaints against people. | ||
| Conversely, if he's not making it up, genuine departmental reform is completely counter to his agenda. | ||
| If the police start operating in ways he's all in favor of, he'll have nothing to yell about. | ||
| To me, I think that's so damning. | ||
| When a guy calls in and is like, I'd like to ask about, did you file internal reports? | ||
| And I was like, well, I don't want to get people in trouble. | ||
| Why would you not want to get Gestapo jackboot thugs in trouble? | ||
| Well, because they got their hearts in the right place, Dan. | ||
| That's such bullshit. | ||
| That is such bullshit. | ||
| It's so against what he stands for. | ||
| Yeah, well, not all Nazis are bad, Dan. | ||
| It's such a crack in his facade. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it just flies past. | ||
| Like, I'm sure most people listening, Who were fans of his, didn't even consider for a second that like, oh, hold on. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This really makes it seem like he doesn't mean any of this shit. | ||
| Well, I mean, the sex work shit is going to be number one for me on it. | ||
| Oh, they're trafficking women. | ||
| Oh, they're trafficking children. | ||
| They're doing all this. | ||
| And you could make... | ||
| Anyone of 10 million, just even a positive, a slight, he's not even donated five bucks to somebody trying to stop sex trafficking. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| The reason that I think it's slightly different is in this case, Alex has standing to file these complaints with the police department. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| This is something that was done to him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he doesn't take action on it. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| So it's even more damning to me. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Like, well, there is, you could sue the city. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Or even you could make a little money if it was true. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But it would be too hard and he knows that he would lose that case probably because he's embellishing and making all this shit up. | ||
| Well, Barnes isn't here yet. | ||
| If Barnes was whispering in his ear, he'd be suing people left and right. | ||
| What if Barnes was around in 2013? | ||
| Alex would be gone by 2019. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| He would be replaced by Barnes. | ||
| He'd be living on an island somewhere. | ||
| Just like, alright, here's millions of dollars. | ||
| Disappear, Alex. | ||
| I need to take over. | ||
| So this last clip from the 17th, because it's not that interesting of a show, Alex is complaining about the Affordable Care Act. | ||
| He has a pretty interesting take on things that were in that bill. | ||
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Is this true under H.R. 32 Section 2521 that we all have to be chipped by Obamacare? | |
| Is that correct? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No, it does pay for chipping of the American people. | ||
| It doesn't make you do it yet, but it does fund the microchipping of the American people. | ||
| So we're all getting chips, man. | ||
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All right. | |
| I wouldn't mind a chip. | ||
| First things first. | ||
| Of course, the Affordable Care Act didn't require or pay for people to get microchips. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| However, there was language in the early House versions of the bill that really got dum-dums on the right all worked up, particularly ones with preoccupations about the end times and the hashtag mark of the beast. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| The provisions of the early draft were related to creating a database for the Department of Health and Human Services of people who had things like pacemakers and replacement body parts. | ||
| Their reasoning was that if there was a centralized database for these sorts of things, they could more easily study the efficacy of implantable devices and probably more importantly, they could inform consumers way more quickly about any future recalls of medical products of this sort, which is really important. | ||
| Okay, so it was people planning ahead with technology and the right was like, technology is terrifying! | ||
| And went crazy. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's really, really important when you have implantable medical devices, if one gets recalled, knowing who you need to get it out of. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| It's very seriously dangerous. | ||
| Yeah, it's... | ||
| You have a faulty pacemaker or an insulin pump or something. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, it's very... | ||
| And the number of people who file complaints with the FDA of injuries related to implantable devices is much higher than people realize. | ||
| It has to be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The shit's inside you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there are some faulty products. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Unfortunately. | ||
| So these databases are really important for obvious reasons. | ||
| However, this language was taken out of the final version of the ACA that eventually passed through Congress. | ||
| So Alex here is basically just lying about a thing that doesn't even end up being in the bill. | ||
| And by this point, he has every reason to know that it's not. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| These databases actually already exist. | ||
| The FDA, for instance, which is housed under the DHHS, keeps a registry of people who have implantable medical devices because without that, they'd be unable to appropriately respond to consumer complaints. | ||
| While there's obviously benefits to expanding the data available to provide people with better care... | ||
| This complaint that Alex is making isn't a real thing at all. | ||
| It got taken out of the bill. | ||
| Alex is just yelling at shadows and misleading his caller. | ||
| His caller's paranoid about something, and Alex is like, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's not like there's only one model of pacemaker. | ||
| So, do you know which model of pacemaker you have for sure? | ||
| So, even if they put out a call of, like, a pacemaker needs to be replaced, you don't know for sure if that one's yours or not. | ||
| I would hope that if I had a pacemaker, I would know that. | ||
| But I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I would be surprised if you did. | ||
| I would hope. | ||
| Yeah, there's a ton of just logistical and public health reasons why something like this would be very... | ||
| Helpful, important, save lives. | ||
| Or it could be the mark of the beast, Dan. | ||
| Did you consider that possibility? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Okay, see, there we go. | ||
| See, I understand where Alex's argument comes from. | ||
| Lots! | ||
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Well, yes. | |
| Well, we can move on. | ||
| No, I mean, the kernel of the argument is built on, like, okay, so they make it okay for you to keep a registry of people who have implantable devices in them. | ||
| Then they're going to just have everybody. | ||
| Slippery, yeah. | ||
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Next thing you know, the DHHS is going to require a database of people with teeth. | |
| Of course. | ||
| And then they've got a list of everybody. | ||
| And the only way you'll be able to go off the grid is to have all your teeth removed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| But I get where that sort of paranoia is built on. | ||
| I get the beginning stages of it, but people just... | ||
| Oh no, for sure. | ||
| So we get to the 18th, and Alex is going on some paranoia shit. | ||
| And we've already heard him say that there's going to be a false flag coming. | ||
| And as we know, the Boston bombing is less than a month away. | ||
| Right around the corner. | ||
| But here's the problem. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| His predictions are very specific about what's going to happen, and it's not... | ||
| A bombing in Boston during the... | ||
| It's not. | ||
| Oh, it's not that. | ||
| They cannot have a public debate about it until they finally have a trigger event to blame the financial collapse on. | ||
| And I've said that's probably, in my gut, would be something like a low-yield nuke going off in Chicago. | ||
| And people ask, why do you say Chicago? | ||
| Ozyman Davis. | ||
| Chicago, Dallas, Cleveland. | ||
| Because the CFR likes to brag, and they've said in three different reports, Dallas, Cleveland, Chicago, and Denver. | ||
| They've also said Denver. | ||
| And they just keep saying that, and then over the weekend they had a radiation alert on the subway trains in Illinois and freaked out, had another one in another place, and helicopters flying around. | ||
| And I've seen it in movies and film, and they just always tell you what they're going to do before they do it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So Alex's prediction, this is not the first time that he's said, first of all, a nuke in Chicago. | ||
| He's being very clear that this is the prediction he's making without saying they're going to nuke Chicago specifically because he knows that's not going to happen, and it's a shit prediction. | ||
| And all of his reasoning is real shoddy. | ||
| So when the Boston bombing does happen, he's going to take credit for predicting it. | ||
| But if you look at the actual predictions, first of all, Cleveland, Chicago... | ||
| Boston wasn't even on the list. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| It's not on his radar. | ||
| He's talking about nukes. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| I assume that your main avenue of research for this kind of comment, though, was, does the CFR like to brag? | ||
| Do we have a documented history of the Council on Foreign Relations bragging about things? | ||
| Can I be honest with you? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I didn't think that was something worth looking into. | ||
| I feel like people's definition of bragging might be different, and I felt like we could get in the weeds on that pretty quickly. | ||
| Also, the CFR membership role is gigantic. | ||
| Tons of just business owners, so I imagine some of them are braggarts. | ||
| Right, but I think it has to be the entire CFR. | ||
| Richard Haas? | ||
| Oh, yeah, he's for sure bragging. | ||
| Braggy. | ||
| Talks about his golf scores all the time. | ||
| Oh, wait, that's the president. | ||
| And bombing Chicago. | ||
| Yes, that was my research. | ||
| I live in Chicago. | ||
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Did we get hit by a bomb? | |
| Let me look at it. | ||
| Looking out the window? | ||
| Okay, all right. | ||
| I have not been nuked. | ||
| So Alex talks more about this here in this next clip. | ||
| I don't care if I get up here and say they're going to nuke Chicago. | ||
| They'll just say, oh, he didn't really say that. | ||
| He said that after the fact on video and said that it was said in 2013. | ||
| But he didn't really say that. | ||
| And you'll be like, well, I heard him say it. | ||
| No, look, this YouTube is from the time. | ||
| Oh, that's a fake time stamp. | ||
| He didn't predict 9-11. | ||
| He didn't... | ||
| He didn't say they'll blow up the World Trade Center and blame it on Bin Laden on July 25, 2001. | ||
| The CFR really bragged about that one. | ||
| Toll-free number to join us because I want your take on all of this. | ||
| So, I mean, you got just, like, really specific predicting going on. | ||
| It's getting very specific. | ||
| It's gradually becoming more refined. | ||
| They're going to nuke Chicago. | ||
| And I guess Alex's way around this, once the Boston bombing does happen, is be like, well, they heard me say that they were going to nuke Chicago, so they changed their plans. | ||
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Right. | |
| I assume that's how he would get around this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I don't care. | ||
| Naturally, the playbook that he has outlined for the globalist to do after he's correct is the playbook he follows after he's incorrect. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So the rest of this episode, the 18th, is not worth going into. | ||
| A lot of it is just yelling about the Cyprus Bank situation, and I don't – like I said, the – It's so standard, Alex, financial shit. | ||
| It's all just exactly the same. | ||
| And I don't... | ||
| I mean, I care. | ||
| I care for the people in Cyprus. | ||
| In 2013? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I care for people around the world who are dealing with financial crises. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I don't mean to be insensitive about that, but Alex's version of it is not something I'm particularly interested in. | ||
| So we jump to the 19th, and it begins with, I would say, an hour-long yelling about Obama being the devil. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's legit. | ||
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All right. | |
| So long. | ||
| That's a long time. | ||
| I'm sitting there listening, and I'm like, wow. | ||
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Wow! | |
| It's just constant. | ||
| Obama, you're the devil. | ||
| I have a hard time believing that you can sit through that. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's really tough. | ||
| We don't talk about this often enough, but really? | ||
| You listened to the whole hour? | ||
| I mean, I skipped the commercials. | ||
| You didn't skip? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| God, I wouldn't make it through 15 minutes. | ||
| I'd be like, move ahead. | ||
| Move ahead. | ||
| I think during it, I did go, ugh, a couple times. | ||
| Well, then you didn't hear all of it. | ||
| I did. | ||
| So here's just a little taste of that. | ||
| Yes, Obama is the Antichrist. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He is a Antichrist. | ||
| He is the spirit of the world. | ||
| He is the spirit of Beelzebub, Bethelmet, Leviathan, the devil. | ||
| He is the devil. | ||
| Barack Obama is the devil. | ||
| And any of you that turn yourselves over willingly to deception and willingly to lies and willingly to hurt the innocent, you are of the devil and you are Antichrist. | ||
| So, I mean, it's a pretty good glimpse at his worldview, I guess. | ||
| Now I'm confused. | ||
| Do you think he's actually read Hobbes' Leviathan? | ||
| No. | ||
| There's no way, right? | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| I think he's seen it referenced on, like, Patriot blogs or something. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| I think most of his information comes through those sources. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| If I had to guess. | ||
| I mean, based on the level of information that traces back to these groups, like the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership or Gun Owners for America, there's so much stuff that he's clearly getting second, third hand from them. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And then pretending that he's read Tragedy and Hope when he's really just read Skousen, Naked Capitalist. | ||
| He gives himself credit for reading the original thing or even John P. Holdren's Ecoscience. | ||
| He claims he's read that. | ||
| There's no chance he's read that textbook. | ||
| It's a textbook. | ||
| He's read the little excerpts that are posted on Patriot blogs about how it's a weapon attack, the fluoride and the water and blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| No, he's never read Leviathan, and positive. | ||
| It's just fun for me whenever all of a sudden he uses something like that, and he uses it correctly, where you're like, somebody else had to have written that for you. | ||
| I think he just knows that it's another word for the devil, or it's used as a term for the devil, and he's just throwing it in. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| He does say... | ||
| It's not really the devil, but... | ||
| I like it when people call the devil Old Scratch. | ||
| Old Scratch? | ||
| That's the one I like. | ||
| Oh, Bob Scratch Goldfarb? | ||
| I love the other one that Alex uses. | ||
| The skinny one! | ||
| The skinny one? | ||
| Yeah, he calls the devil the skinny one. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Which is fun. | ||
| So, because of this Cyprus financial situation, everything that involves money and banks is suspicious. | ||
| Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Around this time... | ||
| Also, there was a Chase Bank glitch that happened with their internal systems that made some users' accounts show a zero balance. | ||
| It was resolved fairly quickly. | ||
| They have been pretty consistent in their statements that it wasn't a hack or anything like that. | ||
| It was a malfunctioning of internal algorithms or whatever. | ||
| Which makes enough sense for me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't see any evidence that it was a hack or anything nefarious or a test run of clearing out people's bank accounts. | ||
| But Alex sees something up. | ||
| There is a local news story where they interviewed somebody about this Chase Bank glitch. | ||
| And a caller calls in to talk about how that was suspicious. | ||
| And I think low-key, this is very important. | ||
| Ken in New Jersey, what's your take on this? | ||
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Definitely a test. | |
| The fact that they did that thing with Chase, and if you notice, the guy in the clip, You know, it's funny you said that. | ||
| That guy looks exactly like an actor, and the way he does it and everything he does, when I played that clip just now, I was looking at it thinking the same thing. | ||
| The point was is that I've seen that guy somewhere. | ||
| That guy is an actor I've seen on TV and movies. | ||
| And I didn't want to say anything because I wanted to try to go find it with you because Google's got facial recognition picture searches that work pretty good on faces. | ||
| And I was going to tell my guys quietly and actually break it once it happened. | ||
| I believe that guy's an actor. | ||
| In fact, I believe that guy or someone who looks just like him is a Cass Sunstein cognitive infiltrator that actually attacks me online that I've seen. | ||
| Just, I'm sorry, just amazing what you just hit me with. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| So Alex has decided that this guy who said that I believe the government will intervene, I mean, they have to, the FDIC exists for a reason. | ||
| No, it's literally, yeah. | ||
| So this guy who's saying this in this local news interview, Alex has decided as an actor, this is a massive, massive, important jump. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because it opens up the door to be like, well... | ||
| If they're using actors to shape the public opinion on this, how far are we away from where we're ending up at? | ||
| This was a spectacular example of yes-ending, turning into free association, turning into fucking, I have just figured out the universe. | ||
| Like, that is such a coked up, like... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I thought it was really weird, too. | ||
| Holy shit, you know what else is weird? | ||
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Oh. | |
| People have been making fun of me. | ||
| Holy shit, you know what else is weird? | ||
| They're all actors. | ||
| I've seen that guy on TV before. | ||
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This is Cass Sunstein. | |
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, you haven't. | ||
| You made up this whole story about directing your staff? | ||
| No, you didn't. | ||
| No. | ||
| I highly doubt it. | ||
| You were going to look into it? | ||
| No, you weren't. | ||
| No. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| I think it's an interesting thought that he arrived on because of this caller's suspicion, and now he's adding a lot of little bushes to increase the background of this picture. | ||
| And you know what, though? | ||
| It's really interesting to me. | ||
| And that's why I think it's important to point out that the Cyprus situation is happening, though I don't feel it's worthwhile to deconstruct how his financial lies are always the same and it's all just panic and you should buy gold. | ||
| We've got 300 episodes. | ||
| I think it's important because it does live in the background of what's making him suspicious about this Chase situation. | ||
| And those suspicions about this Chase glitch make him suspicious of the news report about it. | ||
| I don't know if that's entirely what's motivating him to say that this guy in the news story about the chase glitch is an actor, but it's a piece of it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it could definitely be part of the feedback loop. | ||
| If he's watching all of these, or if he's not necessarily watching, but all of these patriot bullshit is coming about Sandy Hook being staged and fake. | ||
| Staged and fake is in his mind all the time now, and it's constantly. | ||
| So if he gets something like this, this is a perfect opportunity for his brain to go like, It's fake! | ||
| Let's jump on it first. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| It's the same thing with the way he was trying to cover shootings. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| You know, when he was trying to be like, the media's covering up, we're going to show it to you. | ||
| And he's trying to get ahead of the game a little bit and find his own, this is an actor thing to break. | ||
| Because then he has a stake in the marketplace that's kind of unrelated, but still very lucrative. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He can piggyback certain places, maybe get some SEO going. | ||
| I think it's very interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex defends his assertion that this guy in the news report was probably an actor, I think probably in the lamest way possible. | ||
| You know, it's like that cab driver show. | ||
| What's the cab driver show where he goes out and asks him questions? | ||
| Cash cab? | ||
| And I don't watch a lot of TV, but I was on vacation a few weeks ago, and so I was looking for something the kids could watch, and I said, okay, this looks good, and I immediately could tell it was actors. | ||
| I immediately could tell it was actors, and I went, sure enough, everybody else could tell that, and they have actors show up to an open screening. | ||
| Now, they don't tell them what it's going to be, and so it is real questions. | ||
| It is real questions. | ||
| So it is a real game, but the pool is from actors to make sure they can only shoot once and get well-spoken people. | ||
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But they don't tell you that on the show. | |
| So again, I could instantly look at that and I said, watch this, kids. | ||
| I got on my iPad, pulled it up and said, yep, actors. | ||
| It was admitted that there had been controversy. | ||
| It was actors. | ||
| And it's the same thing. | ||
| I may be wrong. | ||
| My first gut reaction was, that's an actor. | ||
| But then there's the extreme of that where everybody says, I'm an actor and I'm Bill Hicks, which isn't true. | ||
| Don't look into it. | ||
| It's not true. | ||
| I'm not Bill Hicks. | ||
| I'm not Sean Connery either. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Wright's getting too good at comedy. | ||
| They're fantastic about it. | ||
| Since 2013, comedy geniuses. | ||
| Too good. | ||
| So, the Cash Cab is an example of why this TV news interview was an actor. | ||
| What's that, Bill Bailey? | ||
| Yeah, Ben Bailey. | ||
| Ben Bailey, that's it. | ||
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I've done a show with him, yeah. | |
| Back when I was doing comedy, I think in Missouri, back before I moved to Chicago, I did a show with Ben Bailey. | ||
| He was nice to me once. | ||
| I didn't spend much time with him, but he was nice, and I think he had a bit about birds that I thought was bad. | ||
| I don't know, seemed like a fine guy. | ||
| He's a great Cash Cab host. | ||
| Oh, I loved that show. | ||
| Yeah, really good. | ||
| So, yes, a number of people who are on the Cash Cab as contestants are also comedians or aspiring actors. | ||
| That is normal. | ||
| You don't want to see who calls into your morning radio shows, I swear to you. | ||
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No, you don't. | |
| No, it's 100% real people, Dan. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think that it's part of the show business aspect of this. | ||
| And I honestly think that if you're running a show like Cash Cab, doing it any other way is impossible. | ||
| The idea of having a completely unknown variable... | ||
| Get into your very controlled space where you're running a game show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| You have an asshole that's just like Baba Booey, Baba Booey, Baba Booey the entire fucking time. | ||
| You would waste so much money on shooting. | ||
| It would be a disaster. | ||
| Then there's also financial issues of people needing to fill out tax forms. | ||
| If you just pick people up off the street, you can't have them fill out the paperwork afterwards. | ||
| What if they just run away? | ||
| You can't pay them just in cash. | ||
| I know it's called cash cab, but that's not real. | ||
| That's not how it works. | ||
| Also, I don't want to get into, if you think reality TV is 100% real, then let's get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Well, but when Alex is trying to use a produced TV show, that's something that, if he's using that as an example of every interview in a local news could be fake, it's a... | ||
| I don't want to use the word slippery slope. | ||
| It's just stupid. | ||
| It is dumb. | ||
| It's a dangerous way to allow your brain to start thinking about these things because it opens up the... | ||
| I don't know, diminished credulity that's required to think that everything's fake. | ||
| Well, I mean, and even then, even within your bullshit of bullshittery, it's a silly, pointless idea. | ||
| Because now you're getting people who need to react instantly. | ||
| You've got to pull out a casting call or you have actors fucking on retainer. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Just get somebody in the production crew to walk in front and be like, hey, I'm fine with it. | ||
| Then you're done. | ||
| So I thought that this was tough. | ||
| Or, like, big. | ||
| Because it is a departure in his narratives. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| And then he starts talking about it a little bit more, this Chase interview. | ||
| And he extends his theory about this interview subject being an actor to territory that I have not heard before. | ||
| This is very, very, very, very suspicious. | ||
| Hey, we'd call the guy and get him on. | ||
| I know with the Batman deal, a bunch of the people were actors. | ||
| See, the media's like, why are there theories that Sandy Hook is actors? | ||
| Well, because Don Salazar himself found instances of movie actors being victims and then talking about how they survived, who just so happened to be in the Aurora shooting, supposedly. | ||
| And it was at least two moderate TV-slash-movie actors. | ||
| Both of them black, by the way. | ||
| I don't think it was Lee Majors. | ||
| So I've never, up to this point, heard Alex say that there were crisis actors used in the Aurora shooting. | ||
| He said that James Holmes was a mind-control killer and all that shit. | ||
| We've gone over in detail already, but I have not heard him make this accusation that some of the victims of the shooting were actors. | ||
| This is a huge departure in his rhetoric. | ||
| I'm trying to trace down the particular people he's talking about, but I can't really find any good resources about what's going on here. | ||
| And even if I could, I feel like naming the people he's accusing of being actors does more harm than good at this point, even if it's in service of deconstructing his lies. | ||
| It was weird whenever they gave that George Clooney interview after the shooting. | ||
| It was weird. | ||
| That was strange. | ||
| Well, I mean, you're joking, but there is a possibility that someone who was in the theater was also an actor. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| Statistically, there's... | ||
| Probably at least one actor in that movie theater. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And if that's what he's talking about, then that's weak. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think if I had to guess, based on the distinguishing characteristics Alex provides, I think I kind of know who he's talking about. | ||
| There's one African-American guy who posted a video on YouTube describing his experience being in the theater when the shooting happened, and this guy was immediately attacked by conspiracy theorists as being an actor. | ||
| Good work, guys. | ||
| I assume that this is one of the people that Alex is talking about, since he fits Alex's description perfectly. | ||
| There's no evidence whatsoever outside of completely unfounded accusations on conspiracy message boards that he was an actor, though. | ||
| The second person, I suspect, is a Hispanic man who was interviewed on Good Morning America after the shooting. | ||
| He'd survived the shooting and described his experiences, but was gesticulating a lot while being interviewed, which led conspiracy sleuths online to suggest he was an actor. | ||
| I really don't think that people understand how adrenaline can really fuck with you in high-pressure situations. | ||
| Like, if anybody thinks that talking with your hands a lot is a strange behavior for someone who's being interviewed on national television for the first time, I really think that they've never tried public speaking. | ||
| I would predict that if they had to get up in front of a room of like 100 people and say something substantial or possibly emotionally resonant, they would find their delivery might not be totally natural or casual either. | ||
| That second guy doesn't as closely fit Alex's description, but he's another person who survived the Aurora shooting who was accused of being an actor. | ||
| I've gone through a bit of this stuff, digging around, and I've found literally nothing that I find to be compelling evidence. | ||
| Nothing rises above the level of insinuation, and yet here we have Alex Jones reporting on his show that there were crisis actors at the Aurora shooting. | ||
| I think that this highlights an under-recognized aspect of Alex's propaganda. | ||
| He needs to use crutches. | ||
| He just can't say that the victims of Sandy Hook were actors, because as we've heard him say himself, that would be an insanely disrespectful thing to say about grieving parents. | ||
| He knows that the accusations aren't based in reality, and to peddle in that level of bullshit demonstrates an inhuman level of cruelty. | ||
| In order to justify that leap, he needs there to be another event where it's established that crisis actors were used in a shooting, and thus it's sensible to assume that they might have in Sandy Hook as well. | ||
| We saw him do this from the beginning with Sandy Hook, but surrounding the question of whether or not it was a false flag. | ||
| He justified arguing that the globalists probably did Sandy Hook by saying that they definitely did Aurora. | ||
| We saw him constantly use that as his justification. | ||
| It's like, well, they did Aurora. | ||
| We've got to ask the question in this case. | ||
| They did that one, so we're justified to assume that it's likely they did this one, too. | ||
| He established and normalized that rhetoric, and now it's perfectly acceptable for him to apply that same leap to crisis actors. | ||
| But I think the thing that's interesting is that he hasn't established in the past that actors were used in Aurora. | ||
| That's new. | ||
| He's trying to rewrite the narrative about Aurora to include that element in order to justify saying that there were actors in the Sandy Hook shooting, which I feel he's very close to doing. | ||
| This is important. | ||
| These are trends that are happening. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And this is not... | ||
| Because we haven't listened to all these episodes in the proper context, would you say... | ||
| Because to me, this sounds like outside influence changing... | ||
| Yeah, that's the problem. | ||
| That's what it sounds like to me. | ||
| It sounds to me like he's buying his own conspiracy bullshit from elsewhere. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's not going with internal writing. | ||
| It's like he went down a YouTube rabbit hole a couple of days ago, and now he's kind of co-opting that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's an essential limitation of how we can study Alex. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In that we can see the stuff on his show. | ||
| And we can see, okay, there's a change happening here. | ||
| But it doesn't necessarily allow us, unless he says on his show what he's doing off hours, we can't really know what is caused this possibly behind the scenes. | ||
| Who he might be talking to. | ||
| And I think that that's a limitation that it is appropriate for us to own up to. | ||
| That said... | ||
| He gets drunk and watches YouTube a lot. | ||
| It's very possible. | ||
| That said, in the present day, Alex, when he's talking about the crisis actor stuff, as it relates to Sandy Hook, he will say that people like James Tracy and Wolfgang Halbig had told him a bunch of stuff that he deemed credible. | ||
| James Tracy was on the show once, and Paul Joseph Watson talked to him. | ||
| Alex has not talked to him on the show. | ||
| Wolfgang Halbig has not shown up at all. | ||
| Steve Pchenik even hasn't shown up on Alex's show at all. | ||
| There don't appear to be any influences outside of Alex's own mind on his show that are leading him down this road. | ||
| It seems entirely organic if you are listening to his show. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But if he's referencing those guys as being people who gave him some bad information, it's entirely possible we're considering them giving it to him firsthand as opposed to him just watching something they were on. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| That would still technically be them giving him some bad information, I suppose. | ||
| Well, it could be him taking it from watching their shit. | ||
| That is possible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The other possibility is that there are exchanges going on through email. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And that's one of the things that I think is really important about the Sandy Hook lawsuits that are happening, is some of that can come to light through discovery that the parents and the people suing Alex have requested. | ||
| I think that a lot of that information is best served being investigated in that context. | ||
| And when that information is available, I am going to... | ||
| Chomp it all up. | ||
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| I'm going to devour it. | ||
| It almost seems like it winds up being something so simple as them just doing a quick fine search of just like, hey, how do you want to lie about Sandy Hook? | ||
| And it pops up in 20 emails. | ||
| Like, it seems very possible. | ||
| It seems very possible, plausible. | ||
| I have nothing to back it up concretely, but it seems... | ||
| It's... | ||
| It doesn't seem that crazy to assume that something is going on behind the scenes at this point. | ||
| Because this is a massive, massive change. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know if, like, the day of the Aurora shooting, Alex said there were actors, but I've listened to months of his show, and it is not something he has ever applied in that conspiracy. | ||
| There's been the other stuff, the DARPA. | ||
| Right. | ||
| All the other, the mind control San Antonio Air Force doctor. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| The notebook, Diane Fenton. | ||
| Starring Ryan Reynolds. | ||
| No. | ||
| There's been tons of conspiracies, and that hasn't been one of them. | ||
| So when you have that, you have the Chase interview is now an actor. | ||
| You're running into a good bit of that becoming a piece of... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Rhetoric that's being pushed. | ||
| It feels like an intentional push here on this March 19th episode. | ||
| I don't know what to make of it, but I guess we'll see. | ||
| I mean, it really, at the same time, it could just be... | ||
| Like, the dumb part of Alex is it could be he was watching a movie a week ago where there were crisis actors in it. | ||
| What movie is that? | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| Pick a false flag movie. | ||
| He could have been watching goddamn Red Dawn. | ||
| But he goes through that and then it just gets fixated in his brain and it turns into a phase of everything as actors. | ||
| It could be, but I don't think so. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| It feels much more intentional. | ||
| I don't know how much it's a planned editorial decision as much as it is like, well, I'm moving in this direction. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We'll see how it develops. | ||
| So on this 19th episode, Alex has an interview with someone who we've never heard from before. | ||
| It's a guy named Cody Wilson. | ||
| And he's a guy who Alex is really excited about because he's on the forefront of 3D printing, particularly in the area of printing guns. | ||
| Okay, well, there's the bad one. | ||
| Yeah, he's a guy who I should tell you is an anarchist and believes that the best way to deteriorate the power of the state is to make it so everybody can have guns. | ||
| He even acknowledges how incredibly fucked up this would be because you'd have completely undetectable guns. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| He doesn't seem to care too much about that. | ||
| Seems like he's into chaos. | ||
| Is he the guy who left the 3D blueprint online for anybody to download? | ||
| He's that guy. | ||
| Yes, he is. | ||
| Okay, cool. | ||
| He's a cool dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Great! | ||
| He is also... | ||
| Involved in some other stuff that we'll get into. | ||
| But here is Alex and him discussing how they kind of want guns to be ubiquitous. | ||
| And that will be the solution to all the world's problems. | ||
| I really don't think so. | ||
| They can't stop it. | ||
| Isn't the secret to this is to make it totally ubiquitous and get so many steps ahead of them that they never catch back up? | ||
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The secret is to get it into the Internet in such a way that you can find it anywhere and it can never be stopped. | |
| And that's what's happened, especially with the gun parts. | ||
| And so we know as soon as we have a printable firearm and look for that in about a month, right, it will be on the Internet forever. | ||
| And this is why the Internet is an anarchy, and it's the most successful global anarchy in history. | ||
| This is why we think these concepts are important. | ||
| No one can take those things from you. | ||
| They're online forever. | ||
| Well, very well said. | ||
| And I'm just extremely excited about everything that you guys are up to and what you're doing. | ||
| Should you be? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know if Alex should be thrilled with anarchy. | ||
| Yeah, I really think that he's saying to a supervillain, like, hey, I'm really loving everything you're doing so far. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He just falls in love with this dude on this episode. | ||
| Well, of course. | ||
| This is Cody Wilson. | ||
| He's a supervillain. | ||
| The proprietor of Defense Distributed. | ||
| Wilson has been working with 3D printing, and he's been saying that he's been able to print a functional gun, which he was doing specifically to demonstrate that gun laws are pointless. | ||
| As soon as there are undetectable guns pretty much everywhere, there would be no point in the state trying to control their flow. | ||
| And thus, Alex's fantasy nightmare of everyone walking around armed to the teeth could come into reality. | ||
| This is the fantasy that they're putting forth. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So, like I mentioned, Cody is explicitly an anarchist. | ||
| He says as much in the interview, and he's against the state completely, which Alex should not be on board with. | ||
| Without the state, some of the things he holds most dear, everything he loves about the quote-unquote West, completely disappear. | ||
| But Cody's super into guns, and maybe the solution to gun regulation, so Alex just skips over that part. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He loves them. | ||
| It's probably worth mentioning that in 2017, Cody Wilson would go on to launch the Patreon alternative, Hatryon, which was specifically designed to be a place where white supremacists who'd been kicked off Patreon could raise money. | ||
| Because of his platform, Richard Spencer was able to pull in a monthly income, and Andrew Anglin of the Daily Stormer was able to raise his income by about $8,000 a month. | ||
| I'm mad that... | ||
| Podcasts are an audio medium because the little head turn with the eyebrow raise? | ||
| Spectacular. | ||
| Disarming. | ||
| I found their rankings of top earners from their early time in existence, and I guess who's coming in at number four? | ||
| Why, it's the noted fascist and white supremacist organization Identity Europa. | ||
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| Number nine is the guy who hosted the show Fash the Nation, which is about what you would probably guess that it is. | ||
| This is the worst David Letterman top ten in history. | ||
| Number thirteen is Christopher Cantwell, the crying Nazi from the Unite the Right rally. | ||
| Number fourteen is Don Black, the founder of Stormfront. | ||
| Looking through the list, I really don't know if you can find anyone who isn't a racist, fascist propagandist. | ||
| And a lot of them are people who've been very closely tied to white supremacist violence in the past few years. | ||
| And make no mistake about this. | ||
| Initially, Patreon was a service that creators could only set up accounts for by invitation. | ||
| Cody Wilson specifically chose these people. | ||
| Patreon sold itself as the censorship-free version of Patreon, but you can easily see what that means in practice. | ||
| In concept, you're imagining that it'll be a place where the free exchange of ideas can take place and everybody can be themselves without the pressure of having to walk on eggshells to avoid the wrath of SJWs. | ||
| No, it's just a lot of the N-word, isn't it? | ||
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Yep. | |
| In reality, you just end up with a place where white supremacists can fund their operations, and Cody Wilson gets to take his cut off the top. | ||
| Naturally, because this is just literally a conduit for people to fund hate speech, Visa terminated their involvement with the site as a payment processor, and there weren't many other options left for them to try, because other places like Stripe and PayPal had already kicked all these other places off, so the site basically just fell apart at that point. | ||
| Yeah, it's not a bad grift if you're Wilson, or if you're just creating, you know, you see all these right-wing hate guys get kicked off Patreon, and you're like, well, Patreon has a good model of taking a little off the top. | ||
| It's not that hard for me to code a website, so of course I'll make one. | ||
| It's a good grift if you are willing to just make money off funding. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, monsters. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Clearly he doesn't have a conscience of any sort or kind, so, you know, good on him. | ||
| Also, in December 2018, Cody Wilson was indicted by the state of Texas for, quote, sexual assault of a child, indecency with a child by contact, and indecency with a child by exposure. | ||
| He had met a 16-year-old girl on a sugar daddy website and paid her $500 to have sex with her, which is very illegal. | ||
| That's the most illegal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When he found out the police were looking into him, he allegedly fled to Taiwan, but was ultimately returned back to the United States. | ||
| His defense argued that the child had lied about her age, but an Austin police commander said, quote, Detectives have interviewed and spoken with this victim, and in their opinion, if someone mistakes her age, it would be because they think she's younger, not older, than the 16-year-old that she is. | ||
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Oh, that's the grossest. | |
| Even if she had misled Cody about her age, Texas law requires the adult to confirm that someone is above the age of consent and puts no legal burden on a child victim, which I think is probably the best way for the system to operate, seeing as the alternative would be fucking nuts. | ||
| Yeah, that would be a really good way to go. | ||
| So Cody ended up pleading down his sentence, but was still sentenced to seven years probation and had to register as a sex offender. | ||
| He's not allowed to be alone with minors, and in a possible poetic irony, He's not allowed to own firearms anymore. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| So these are the sorts of people that Alex has got hanging around. | ||
| So in this next clip, this is just kind of knowing what we now know about Cody Wilson and Alex Jones and what they would look like in 2019. | ||
| Namely, that they're great. | ||
| This clip takes on a slightly different tone. | ||
| I've seen some of the articles where they say you're one of the most dangerous people out there alive. | ||
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Yeah, one of the most polarizing figures in technology. | |
| This is from people who, of course I'm dangerous, to their world view, right? | ||
| Oh, no, no, no. | ||
| Hey, welcome to the club. | ||
| Southern Poverty Law Center says I'm incredibly dangerous. | ||
| I mean, you know, they say I'm a terrorist leader. | ||
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That's a distinction. | |
| I'm a terrorist? | ||
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You should be honored. | |
| I guess I terrorize tyrants. | ||
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Well, exactly. | |
| Who do you terrorize? | ||
| Who is terrorized? | ||
| Dangerous to what? | ||
| Dangerous to whom? | ||
| And I think we said this before last time we were together. | ||
| Fine, of course I'm dangerous to that old way of thinking. | ||
| So them relishing in this idea that people think that they're fucked up, dangerous people, it's one of those things. | ||
| You look back at this six years in the past, and you have to ask the question. | ||
| I would love to show them this and be like, maybe everyone was right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And just those dudes getting together in the corner, jerking each other off for being so dangerous. | ||
| That's because you're not... | ||
| You're living this fantasy where... | ||
| Cody Wilson is living this weird supervillain fantasy. | ||
| He's living like... | ||
| If I make guns available for everyone, then all power is meaningless! | ||
| Doing that whole thing. | ||
| And Alex is up his own butt with being so powerful in the speech realm or whatever it is. | ||
| So to hear these two just go back and forth being like, You're great! | ||
| No, you're great! | ||
| Because we're both so scary and powerful. | ||
| So fucking annoying. | ||
| Because it's a bunch of fucking pathetic cowards. | ||
| I'm a threat to the system really translates more to I am a threat to people. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Because I was not treated as one when I was nine or whatever the fuck psychology it is. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| So, Cody also is a big booster of Bitcoin. | ||
| And he's specifically trying to promote Bitcoin base. | ||
| I assume he got very, very, very rich. | ||
| I mean, I bet he was pretty rich to begin with. | ||
| He had a lot of people interested in the... | ||
| Because a month or so after this, I think it's like two months after this, he does make a huge splash by having a 3D printed gun. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I recall. | ||
| It's in this almost immediate future after this interview. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so there were a bunch of people funding him with capital. | ||
| And I bet he did also make a lot of money with that coin. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But in this... | ||
| But in this clip, he's trying to promote Bitcoin Base. | ||
| Coinbase. | ||
| I don't know if it's Bitcoin Base or Coinbase. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Whatever it is, he's trying to promote it. | ||
| Alex is always very suspicious about cryptocurrencies. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I can't see it! | ||
| It's interesting the way he's suspicious about it in this conversation. | ||
| It's not shiny! | ||
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And they can link it up to your bank accounts and everything. | |
| So it's just one of the easiest ways to buy and sell Bitcoin. | ||
| And one of the most accessible. | ||
| Is Peter Thiel involved anywhere in this? | ||
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Well, I don't know if he is publicly or not. | |
| I can't speak to that. | ||
| But I know that people that think like him, people with that founders fund mentality and the idea that libertarian corporations are the future, are looking at companies like Coinbase and that they want to fund them. | ||
| Yeah, but it's just like Rand Paul just won the CPAC deal and now the neocons love him. | ||
| I think they're trying to adopt it to take it over. | ||
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Well, you mean Bitcoin itself? | |
| Well, I mean, Peter Thiel. | ||
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Oh, well, yes. | |
| It's funny to hear Alex so worried about Peter Thiel back in 2013. | ||
| He's suspicious about Bitcoin as a free and open marketplace. | ||
| And the only real specific he gives in his interview is that he believes Peter Thiel is involved. | ||
| And good for him! | ||
| Peter Thiel's involvement in something is a bit of a red flag. | ||
| In October 2016, the New York Times reported that Teal donated $1.25 million to Trump's presidential campaign and, not surprisingly, was an important advisor for Trump during the transition after the election. | ||
| By that point and continuing to the present, Alex has been a strong Teal advocate, which is also not surprising. | ||
| Did Teal fuck over Gawker at this point? | ||
| I don't think it had happened in 2013. | ||
| I don't think it had happened back then. | ||
| I think that was later. | ||
| Because the only thing I recall about... | ||
| The Hulk Hogan lawsuit? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, the only thing I can remember about Teal at this point is... | ||
| Was the first funder of Facebook. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| eBay. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And notorious for sending cease and desist to any journalistic outlet that said his name. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| So that would be the only reason I could think of for Alex, like those trifecta of being a Facebook evil globalist. | ||
| Alex isn't on that tip at this point, though, I don't think. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I'm not sure what he hates about Peter Thiel. | ||
| Well, Palantir is still bullshit. | ||
| That's around back then, right? | ||
| I don't know exactly Alex's beef, but... | ||
| Thiel's evil all the way. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck him! | ||
| So we jump to the 20th, and we start with something really interesting. | ||
| Because in 2015, when we were looking at that period of time where Alex makes peace with Trump and decides to support his candidacy... | ||
| Right. | ||
| And there was perhaps some suspicion or some feeling that when we initially started looking at it that these two things were related in some way. | ||
| It just existed already before he started as opposed to Trump. | ||
| Even when we were in 2009, we were finding him loving Russia and shit. | ||
| Having some, at least absolutely some, indications of a Russo-positive worldview. | ||
| Taking Russia's line on certain geopolitical issues that there might be some question about whose angle on it is correct. | ||
| Now, one of the things that I find very interesting is that in 2015, one of the features of Alex's Positive Russia angle was that Putin kicked out the oligarchs. | ||
| Yes, that one's fun. | ||
| Putin is trying to create this wonderful Christian free market. | ||
| And it was a complete and total coincidence that that journalist was murdered on the same day as Putin's birthday. | ||
| Leave that aside for a second. | ||
| Alex says that Putin kicked out the oligarchs in 2015 and that's one of the big pieces of why he loves Putin and supports him. | ||
| Here's what he says in 2013. | ||
| See, they never really got privatization in Russia. | ||
| They took the Duma-controlled Communist Party system, controlled by a few hundred guys, and they all left the Duma and put their puppets in, like Putin, and went, you know, and they're total drugged out of his mind, Yeltsin, who couldn't even talk. | ||
| They put him up there. | ||
| Well, they all then went and took over the nickel, the iron, the steel production, the oil, the natural gas. | ||
| It's all just big mafia combines, and it's truly, truly, truly disgusting. | ||
| So he understands that they didn't kick out the oligarchs in 2013. | ||
| No, not in 2013. | ||
| So it must have happened between 2013 and 2015. | ||
| Between 2013 and 2015, Putin kicked out all the oligarchs. | ||
| That's not even Alex's angle in 2015. | ||
| That's... | ||
| All right, Alex. | ||
| A couple weeks ago, Putin kicked out all the oligarchs, so I like him now. | ||
| All right, Alex. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| I wonder what changed. | ||
| I don't mean that facetiously glibly. | ||
| I do wonder what changed between 2013 and 2015. | ||
| No, I absolutely agree with you. | ||
| I wonder if it has anything to do with Syria. | ||
| I do wonder that. | ||
| Was he on RT in between 2013 and 2015? | ||
| I don't believe so. | ||
| His RT days are behind him by 2013. | ||
| Except for, I guess, going on Max Keiser's show. | ||
| But he always treats that as sort of external to RT. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| I mean, it's something to track. | ||
| Because that's fucking incongruous as hell. | ||
| Yeah, that's strange. | ||
| So I kept this clip in just for our dear friend, Sonja from Sweden. | ||
| I think she will enjoy... | ||
| Get well soon, Sonya. | ||
| I hope that she will enjoy this dumb clip. | ||
| And Stockholm Syndrome got that name decades ago from a case in Stockholm, Europe. | ||
| But... | ||
| Alex doesn't know where Stockholm is. | ||
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A little petty... | |
| Stockholm... | ||
| Europe. | ||
| Oh, you know, Cincinnati, North America. | ||
| Good stuff, Alex. | ||
| Good stuff. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| Oh, we love it. | ||
| So in this next clip... | ||
| You know, Sao Paulo, Western Hemisphere? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's how you say those sorts of things. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex mocks a woman who supported Obama. | ||
| And there's sort of a gross element to this. | ||
| And I guess I'm only keeping it in. | ||
| I don't know why I'm keeping this in necessarily, except to just point out these shifts in Alex's. | ||
| Having the Stockholm Syndrome, loving your abusers, giving into it, doing what it says, is going to destroy you. | ||
| And if you buy into this false reality they're spewing, we're going to have the total implosion of our society and an authoritarian nightmare. | ||
| That is going to look pale in significance. | ||
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I love Obama. | |
| I love Obama. | ||
| I'm dying for Obama. | ||
| I will kill for Obama. | ||
| You will kill for Obama. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Really? | ||
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Yes. | |
| And that is just an example of the type of people that are out there. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Alex has many, many times said that he would die for Trump. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| No, he's absolutely right, but directed towards him. | ||
| He's so smart about how people will get turned into an authoritarian empire, but he's almost gleefully joining in with an authoritarian empire. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I would say that I would be critical of anybody who says that they would die for their chosen political leader. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would be critical of Alex and that woman's sentiment. | ||
| The difference between me and Alex is Alex is not critical of his own sentiment of I would die for Trump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is a problem. | ||
| Well, and I'm pretty sure it makes you think that maybe what you're criticizing is something else. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think it's very clear that she's being facetious. | ||
| Well, probably, yeah, or exaggerating. | ||
| Yeah, everybody's having a good time talking to her, and no one's having a good time talking to Alex right now. | ||
| Alex is probably exaggerating, too, but the context is very different. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, we're back to the Chase glitch now. | ||
| Alex is covering that here on the 20th, and he smells conspiracy. | ||
| Chase J.P. Morgan customers. | ||
| Yesterday evening, for two and a half hours, or the day before yesterday, shows zero. | ||
| People couldn't buy stuff. | ||
| They couldn't do things. | ||
| And I think that something's suspicious there. | ||
| Like they do flash trading. | ||
| There's tens of billions of dollars in deposits, even more than that. | ||
| Imagine two and a half hours, that money being able to be used for other things, moved into other things. | ||
| I think it's very suspicious. | ||
| I've talked to IT people, and they have all those systems backed up. | ||
| You wouldn't have everybody's card go to zero. | ||
| But, I mean, this is based on nothing, except vague conversations he probably never had with IT people. | ||
| I talked to an IT person one time, and they said that that would probably never happen. | ||
| So that means it didn't, and it couldn't. | ||
| Alex is creating this conspiracy surrounding this chase glitch, and it's in service of reinforcing, I guess... | ||
| What probably is more primary is the, or at least what will probably become more primary, is the idea that this guy in the TV interview was an actor who was there to dissuade people from thinking it was any kind of nefarious thing. | ||
| That's a mess. | ||
| That is an interesting, incredibly impossible-to-hide ever conspiracy, though, that idea that some bank like Chase would, in a second... | ||
| In a flash second, take all this money from all these accounts, invest it instantly, see the stock rise by one penny, and then take it all out after selling all those shares and putting all of that money back into your account. | ||
| So they would make money and you wouldn't even notice because it all happens in a microsecond. | ||
| That's a fun conspiracy theory that could be instantly and easily found out and would be the most illegal possible thing that could ever fucking happen. | ||
| Does Alex not understand that's how banks work already? | ||
| Yeah, but I think he thinks it's malicious. | ||
| This is so stupid. | ||
| So Alex on this episode has an interview with Rosa Corey. | ||
| If you don't recall, she is the lady who is super into Agenda 21 and goes and disrupts local meetings that people are having and accuses any kind of... | ||
| Environmentalism, any kind of civic planning, building parks as being part of Strong Cities Initiative and Agenda 21. Also known for being great at parties. | ||
| Their interview is just exactly the same as the last time we talked about her. | ||
| It's not worth getting into again, except for this that she says that Alex doesn't bat an eyelash at. | ||
| And Australia's about five years ahead of us. | ||
| They're doing that there in earnest. | ||
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| I mean, obviously, people are really dealing with it all across the world. | ||
| This is not just a United States thing. | ||
| I was interviewed on Red Ice Radio, which is based in Northern Europe. | ||
| And, you know, they were under the impression that this is some kind of a United States program. | ||
| No, it is not. | ||
| Alex doesn't seem to be like... | ||
| Oh, you're on Red Ice? | ||
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| I mean, that's the sort of thing that should be like... | ||
| Why would you go on that show? | ||
| They are explicitly white supremacist, white nationalist show. | ||
| Why would you just throw that out as if it's like, oh, I was on Good Morning America. | ||
| Because we're in a very safe space. | ||
| Speak freely, Rosa. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's pretty telling how flippantly you can just be like, oh yeah, I was also on this fucking show that is largely about white identity. | ||
| And it's cool. | ||
| I interviewed them and I hipped them about how Agenda 21 is a global problem. | ||
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| Great. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Great, Rosa. | ||
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| So, up to this point, in just a span of a few days, we've seen Alex incorporate ideas of this TV interview being an actor. | ||
| We've seen him say that some of the survivors and victims of the Aurora shooting were actors. | ||
| And, like, two is a coincidence. | ||
| Three is a pattern. | ||
| Here is the third. | ||
| Snatch and grab. | ||
| We saw him practicing on real people up at the G20 when Rob Doe got arrested. | ||
| The famous footage of guys in military uniforms with no patches, jumping out of police sedans, unmarked, and just snatching innocent press and dragging them in. | ||
| And then we later learned, we said, oh, that's U.S. National Guard. | ||
| And we got a call from G20, global security. | ||
| With that number from the security forum, because our articles got picked up everywhere and said, that is national security authorized private security. | ||
| And we just want you to know that we have been instructed to tell you that was not the National Guard. | ||
| And then they hung up on Rob Jacobson. | ||
| They called his number. | ||
| I call them back and they go, you've been giving your answer? | ||
| And that is it. | ||
| And hung up. | ||
| And it was the field security number. | ||
| So I called other numbers and they wouldn't talk to us after that. | ||
| They just called up to say, that is our private security. | ||
| And it turned out those weren't real people. | ||
| They were arresting thousands of real people for no reason. | ||
| They were randomly snatching and grabbing and throwing people into sedans and unmarked vans as a PSYOP to see what the media would do. | ||
| They would go to the media area, the authorized media throng, and grab someone. | ||
| And I called it. | ||
| I said, that guy is laughing after he's thrown in the back of the police car and doesn't look concerned, that reporter. | ||
| So this is from the 22nd. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| I didn't clarify. | ||
| Alex took the 21st off and Mike Adams hosted. | ||
| And now he's back on the 22nd. | ||
| And he's coming in with this narrative about G20 arrests being psyops. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't believe Alex's story about how he got this information for a couple reasons. | ||
| Mainly that he always lies. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's Alex. | ||
| Second, that is just a... | ||
| Unbelievable chain of events. | ||
| Calling these people and then they're like, you got your answer. | ||
| And then Alex doesn't ever do investigative work. | ||
| So the idea that he would track down other phone numbers is laughable. | ||
| But like I said, and I'm trying to be pretty clear about this. | ||
| I'm seeing a trend developing of Alex incorporating crisis actors into his narratives in ways that he has not up till this point. | ||
| I've been listening to every single minute of his show from the day of the Sandy Hook shooting, and I can say with no hesitation that this is not normal. | ||
| We've already seen Alex add actors to the conspiracy about the Aurora shooting. | ||
| And now people arrested at the 2009 G20 meeting in Pittsburgh where actors engaged in a psyop run by the state, presumably at the behest of globalists, so they could gauge how the media would respond to the thing. | ||
| Let's leave aside for a moment how stupid this is, if you believe, as Alex does, that the globalists already control the media. | ||
| What's more important is how Alex is missing out on a real instance of state oppression in service of using it to create a different conspiracy. | ||
| On a very basic level, it's in Alex's best interest to delegitimize the G20 protests. | ||
| He wants to yell about the G20, but the people who are actually protesting them are largely anti-capitalists. | ||
| The people who are willing to put their bodies on the line are not people who think three people voted in the Federal Reserve into existence. | ||
| They're people who want to dismantle the power of capital. | ||
| That's a threat to the power structure, but it's also a threat to Alex. | ||
| So of course he would have propaganda narratives in order to delegitimize instances of the police arresting these people. | ||
| That said, even though it makes sense for him to undercut the anti-capitalist protests, I've never heard him argue that the people arrested at the 2009 G20 meeting were actors. | ||
| And the problem is that they absolutely were not. | ||
| The specific arrest Alex is talking about was the subject of a video that went 2009 viral. | ||
| It was a video of a car pulling up on protesters, men in camo coming out and grabbing a guy and tossing them into their car. | ||
| Immediately the internet went wild with theories that the arrest was fake because the camo outfits the men were wearing weren't right. | ||
| They were like a different form of camo than the National Guard was wearing. | ||
| No, it was an improv everywhere sketch. | ||
| Or they had the wrong shoes on. | ||
| Was another complaint that was made. | ||
| Yeah, toss it in there. | ||
| I don't believe that Alex reached out to anyone because, like I said, he never reaches out to anyone for comment. | ||
| That's just not part of the Infowars journalism process. | ||
| Why would you? | ||
| I can count on one hand the number of times I believe they may have sent someone an email to check on a story. | ||
| What Alex is probably referring to is the boilerplate response that the G20 Joint Information Center sent to journalists inquiring about the arrest, which I found published verbatim on both Mediaite and Raw Story. | ||
| The individuals involved in the 9-2409 arrest, which has appeared online, are law enforcement officers from a multi-agency tactical response team. | ||
| It's not unusual for tactical team members to wear camouflage and fatigues. | ||
| The type of fatigues the officers wear designates their unit affiliation. | ||
| This is pretty close to what Alex is saying the Army told him, so I'm going to assume he probably just read this response and decided to pretend he reached out to them himself, knowing that that's the response he would get if he did reach out so it's safe. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But he also says they reach out to him, making him so much more powerful. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| These weren't military members, despite their camo. | ||
| And they alleged that they had observed the individual they arrested vandalizing a business and decided to intervene the way they did due to the, quote, hostile nature of the crowd. | ||
| I think that's all kind of bullshit, and the arrest absolutely... | ||
| I would describe as overkill in the methods that they're using. | ||
| But Alex lying about it doesn't help the actual problem get solved. | ||
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No, of course not. | |
| In much the same way, him refusing to file internal complaints when he is the victim of police overreach doesn't help the problem get solved. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because he wants terroristic policing just not to happen to him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The larger issue here for our purposes, though, is that this was a real arrest, and Alex has zero evidence to support his claim that it was an actor who was arrested as part of a PSYOP. | ||
| That's a completely unfounded belief he's decided to present as truth, and I believe it's part of a growing pattern. | ||
| More and more things are being called fake and alleged to be involving actors on his show. | ||
| This is the third example in a week's worth of Alex's program, and I don't think it means nothing. | ||
| It's important to note, too, like I mentioned earlier, that Alex has not had Wolfgang Halbig on his show up to this point. | ||
| He's had James Tracy on, but Alex didn't even talk to him. | ||
| If this is, in fact, where we jump off into the Sandy Hook actor's narrative, Alex can't really make a compelling argument. | ||
| He tries to, that he heard both sides. | ||
| He can't blame James Tracy or Wolfgang Halbig. | ||
| He's doing this himself. | ||
| If there's something behind the scenes, That convinced him of that, and it's Wolfgang Halbig's fault? | ||
| He hasn't demonstrated that in any way. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| Man, I'm going back and forth now, because originally I was thinking that it was some sort of outside influence of some kind, but then, you know, now to put this in there for no reason, really. | ||
| Like, there's no point in throwing this there other than you giving him possible credit for setting the groundwork for being able to call... | ||
| Sandy Hook, a completely staged event with crisis actors. | ||
| But it also sounds like that call whenever he was just having that fun, free associative, all of a sudden, yeah, these guys are actors too. | ||
| I'm going to throw that in there. | ||
| Now it's kind of sounding like he's just excited to call everything fake. | ||
| He just likes having people think that he's so smart he figured out that this is fake and all this shit is fake. | ||
| It does feel that way. | ||
| And on some level, a bit of that could possibly be explained by when he had James Tracy on to talk to Paul Joseph Watson. | ||
| A big part of it was a recognition that there was 10 million views of this video that they put out. | ||
| There was a big market space that was... | ||
| For calling things actors. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't think it's unreasonable to look at it as in the intervening month or so, they've seen that that hasn't gone away. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that this is a pretty lucrative, fertile space for conspiracy to grow in. | ||
| So I think that it's a possibility. | ||
| I'm not saying it is the case, but it is a possibility. | ||
| That what they've seen is that there is market viability in calling these things fake, and Alex is allowing himself to dip into that pool. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| Another possibility is Alex is aware that he is working towards saying Sandy Hook is fake, and that it was all actors. | ||
| Because we do know that that is where he ends up. | ||
| And if he knows that that's the conclusion you're getting to, it makes sense to build up to that. | ||
| Have the groundwork laid. | ||
| And the way that he's incorporating it into these other things, the way that it's pretty consistently coming up, accusations of things involving actors, it doesn't seem organic to me. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It could be explained by your theory that he got drunk and watched YouTube and was like, hey, it's fun to call things actors. | ||
| I admit that that's a possibility. | ||
| God, and I feel like that's not a low possibility either. | ||
| My suspicions are also possibilities. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| There are a hundred possible explanations for why this is happening, but I'm looking at it and I can't escape the conclusion that it is happening. | ||
| Yeah, no, absolutely. | ||
| I'm going to go with money. | ||
| Every time. | ||
| It's the easiest. | ||
| Until proven otherwise, I'm going to go with some sort of money grab. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And again, this comes down to the limitation of looking at it the way we do, is that I can tell you that there is something going on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| With the available information that I have, I can't tell you exactly how it plays out yet, and I also may never be able to tell you the exact why of it. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I can give you some possibilities. | ||
| But I don't know, outside of Alex confessing, or this lawsuit revealing emails that showed machinations behind the scenes, I'm not sure that I would ever be able to give you the why. | ||
| And that's deeply frustrating to me. | ||
| But I can tell you that this does not appear to me. | ||
| From my time studying Alex Jones to be a coincidence. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It appears to be whether a subconscious or conscious decision to incorporate crisis actors into a bunch of stuff. | ||
| I don't think it's possible for us ever to know because I don't think that there's any way that Alex... | ||
| Concretely knows. | ||
| We would need some... | ||
| Because it's not like we could do an interview with Alex like 20 years from now when he's not on the air and he's got nothing to lose. | ||
| We can't trust a thing, he says, because there's no way that he'll A, remember it, or B, bother to tell the truth. | ||
| Some insightful person who used to work at Infowars, if freed from their non-disclosure agreement, possibly could explain the dynamics that were going on at the time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It would have to be a third party for sure. | ||
| But that would still only be their perspective on it. | ||
| I think it requires those emails, quite frankly. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| What about our emails, Dan? | ||
| So, because Alex is getting pretty extreme, I mean, he's already yelled about Obama as the devil for an hour. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Troubling if proven. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's building up this idea that... | ||
| This is an existential battle. | ||
| What he wants his audience to understand is that if they lose, it's all over. | ||
| And if they win, then it's great. | ||
| And this is how he's framing things. | ||
| You understand the magnitude? | ||
| This is their Waterloo. | ||
| This is how it works. | ||
| We either gain everything or we lose everything. | ||
| They're going for it all, we go for it all. | ||
| The function of rhetoric like that is in order to justify excess on your side. | ||
| If you present it as an existential battle where if we lose, we lose everything, and they're going for it all. | ||
| They're pulling out all the stops. | ||
| They're trying to poison you through the water. | ||
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Of course! | |
| They're using actors to create this completely fictional reality in order to brainwash people. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| If they're going for it all, we're going for it all. | ||
| And that is not good. | ||
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No. | |
| Because you're creating a fictional version of what the enemy is doing in order to justify the very real things that you are doing. | ||
| If the enemy is going to commit war crimes, we have no choice but to fight them on their level. | ||
| If they're going to burn our farms and commit to total war, then we have to burn their farms and their civilians. | ||
| So, I mean, you're bringing up war crimes and, you know, it is somewhat relevant because, as we discussed at the beginning of this episode... | ||
| Alex is making predictions about what the globalists are going to do. | ||
| This false flag that they're going to pull off. | ||
| A new king in American City would probably commit as a, would be a war crime. | ||
| Yeah, you'd think. | ||
| I would give that one war crime status. | ||
| And that's the prediction he's making. | ||
| We either realize the attack, they lose everything in this, or they go hot. | ||
| And what will precipitate it? | ||
| Something like a small atomic bomb going off that they'll blame on us. | ||
| Now I'm going to break this down when we get back. | ||
| How to defeat them. | ||
| If you don't want to go under New World Order control, totally. | ||
| Stay with us. | ||
| So it's all very consistent. | ||
| It's a repetition of they're going to set off a nuke and blame the Patriots. | ||
| He's listed the cities that he thinks are the targets. | ||
| Chicago primarily. | ||
| Whether or not, again, he says there's going to be a false flag all the time. | ||
| So when there is an actual terrorist attack, as the Boston bombing is, it doesn't... | ||
| Lend him any more credibility that he said there was something coming. | ||
| Especially when you look back and see he's specifically predicting something completely different. | ||
| Don't give me any credit when I say there's going to be another school shooting. | ||
| That's not something that you... | ||
| God, local news would give anything for that kind of throw to break. | ||
| They have to be like, oh! | ||
| Is there something in your food that is going to hurt you? | ||
| They're salacious as hell, but still not as bad as Alex. | ||
| Do you want to know how to defeat the New World Order? | ||
| Otherwise, they're going to nuke Chicago? | ||
| We'll see you in five. | ||
| Yeah, it is pretty disgraceful. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| So, Alex, there's been a lot of stuff in this episode that I think is really important. | ||
| I think we're seeing this tendency towards actor narratives. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think Alex's prediction of a nuke in Chicago is pretty important because he's going to pretend he predicted the Boston bombing when it happens. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He clearly has not. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And a lot of that's pretty important. | ||
| What is about to happen is not very important, but I think is pretty amazing. | ||
| Alex has decided that coyotes are a very big threat. | ||
| Not people who smuggle people. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| The animals. | ||
| Do you know what's fun? | ||
| Not for one moment did I think it was anything other than literally coyotes. | ||
| Alex believes that there is a scourge of coyote murder happening. | ||
| Not one moment did I think he would take the extra step for a double entendre. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Purely coyotes. | ||
| People are being killed by coyotes. | ||
| Are they being abducted by coyotes? | ||
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No. | |
| And then raised by coyotes. | ||
| He says they're being eaten by coyotes. | ||
| And he believes that the globalists are trying to train people to be attacked by coyotes by watching horror movies. | ||
| Because in horror movies, like in a Jason movie, the character will run away and then trip and fall and then be like, no, don't kill me. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| If there's a white woman in a horror movie, she's going to trip and fall. | ||
| It's just the rule. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So Alex believes that this is programming. | ||
| So when people see a coyote, they'll run away from them, trip and fall, and then beg the coyote not to kill them. | ||
| That is the greatest plan the globalists have ever come up with. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| Astonishingly good. | ||
| Alex is brilliant for figuring this plan out. | ||
| I even read about a few times a year people get eaten by coyotes now inside major cities or on the edge of cities. | ||
| Coyotes! | ||
| Never used to happen. | ||
| Because coyotes need to be scared of humans. | ||
| Now, it's almost always a small woman. | ||
| She gets scared. | ||
| She runs. | ||
| Women have been taught from movies to fall down. | ||
| Because you always do that when Jason's coming after you. | ||
| You run and you fall down. | ||
| And then you beg. | ||
| So that's what's been reported. | ||
| People run. | ||
| And then it's so much fun because they were taught they fall down. | ||
| And then the coyotes come and they just roll around while the coyotes eat them. | ||
| I mean, if you went, ah, the coyotes would run in fear. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| First of all, I don't know if anybody watches a horror movie and thinks that the person who's being killed by Jason is having a great time. | ||
| Please don't kill me! | ||
| First things first, Jordan. | ||
| All right. | ||
| See you after this scene. | ||
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All right. | |
| You're a good dude. | ||
| Let me make this real clear. | ||
| Coyotes attacking people, that is not a big problem in the United States. | ||
| I really want to believe you, Dan. | ||
| The journal Human-Wildlife Interactions released a study in 2017 of the phenomenon of humans being attacked by coyotes, compiling all available data between the years of 1970 and 2015. | ||
| I assume it is 100% shorter women. | ||
| Between 1977 and 2015, there were 367 instances of humans being attacked by coyotes. | ||
| And when you eliminate rabies as a variable, because any rabid animal is going to attack people, the big takeaways of the study seem to be the following. | ||
| One, coyotes generally attack when they're cornered. | ||
| With the elimination of wild lands where they can roam free, they're being introduced into environments that are foreign to them, and that's causing some disruption. | ||
| They have the behavioral plasticity to live in urban environments, but it causes some confusion. | ||
| Two, the vast majority of attacks occurred in California due to natural coyote population distributions. | ||
| The attacks also seemed to follow a pattern where they increased around the times when coyotes would be either pregnant or nursing their pups, and thus they'd be in a position of food stress. | ||
| This isn't to say that they were attacking humans to eat them, but that over time they've lost their fear of humans. | ||
| They've also begun to associate humans with food. | ||
| Environments that humans live in are resource-rich environments for coyotes. | ||
| Think of, like, campsites at national parks. | ||
| And when you start to think about that, it's easy to see how the very basic association could be made between the presence of humans and the availability of food. | ||
| It's theorized that this association has been made by the coyote populations who have come to exist in more urban areas, and that many of the attacks we've seen have been out of food panic. | ||
| They believe that attacking humans will open up food resources. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| I used to live here and you killed everybody, so now I'm trying to live here and you're still fighting me! | ||
| I'll bite you. | ||
| Fine! | ||
| The phenomenon of wild animals becoming habituated to living around humans has been pretty extensively studied, and generally when things like rabies aren't in play, once they are habituated and don't see humans as a threat, they mostly don't attack people without a reason, like being cornered or if there's a drop-off in available food, often as precipitated by a decreasing in the population of a species that's their prey. | ||
| It's a byproduct of the interconnectedness of nature, something that we are a part of, as much as Alex might want to pretend otherwise. | ||
| Also, only two of the 367 coyote interactions studied in this report led to deaths. | ||
| One was back in 1981, and the victim was a three-year-old child, which is incredibly tragic. | ||
| But I can guarantee that the child did not watch a ton of horror movies and then decide running away from the coyote would be fun. | ||
| The late 70s were really kind of a golden age for horror movies, though. | ||
| I don't think this three-year-old watched them, though. | ||
| They can walk? | ||
| I don't think that's true. | ||
| They can walk! | ||
| I think... | ||
| Showed him a lot of Roger Corbin shit! | ||
| I think it's dubious to suggest that. | ||
| The other instance was in 2009. | ||
| It was a 19-year-old folk singer who was killed by coyotes in Nova Scotia, so that wasn't even in the United States. | ||
| Again, this is a real tragic situation, and I'm not minimizing it at all, but experts who have discussed that situation theorize that the most likely situation is that she was hiking alone and probably encountered a group of coyotes who were hunting as a pack, and that they were likely protecting a deer they'd killed. | ||
| Whatever the specific details, her situation doesn't mirror Alex's bullshit either, and the coyotes didn't eat her. | ||
| People came to her aid and scared off the coyotes, called for help, and then she died from her injuries at the hospital. | ||
| I know this might seem like a minor weird thing to focus on, but I think it's a really good example of how authoritatively Alex speaks about topics he knows nothing about. | ||
| This is complete bullshit, and yet he's delivering this bit of information as if he'd studied the topic in depth. | ||
| It's important to highlight these examples sometimes because they illustrate what a con man he is and show how little self-reflection he's capable of. | ||
| He just rambles and rants about notions and things he's making up that feel right to him, and then he presents them as if they're well-researched facts. | ||
| When you recognize that he does this about coyotes eating people regularly because the globalists have trained them not to fight back, it opens the door to recognizing that he does this about everything. | ||
| He's never read a study on coyote attacks, just like he's never read anything. | ||
| This is all bullshit. | ||
| Everything is bullshit. | ||
| And coyote murder eating people is such a good doorway into understanding that. | ||
| Man, that's just such a swing. | ||
| That's just such a swing for the fences. | ||
| All the time now you hear about coyotes eating people in big urban cities in America. | ||
| But listen, there's zero risk because he's already fucking crazy. | ||
| That anybody is going to call him out on his coyote bullshit. | ||
| But if by some freak happenstance he's right about the coyote murder situation, he's the most brilliant man in the world. | ||
| He's absolutely not right about it, and he's not the most brilliant man in the world. | ||
| Yeah, but man, if he was. | ||
| And just so people don't think that I'm just taking a little clip of this and being like, he's actually saying that coyotes are killing people, here's some more of it. | ||
| In every case now in Canada and the U.S., it's happening every few months now. | ||
| You'll read about it. | ||
| It's always the same story. | ||
| The woman on her lunch break went to the local park to have a sandwich and make some phone calls. | ||
| Two coyotes came out. | ||
| She cowered crying, calling 911, and the coyotes, by the time they got there, had chewed her throat out. | ||
| I looked through instances of coyote attacks. | ||
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What? | |
| None of the stories I could find mirrored this in any way. | ||
| So she's in the West Loop or something. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Hanging out at a little park, eating her lunch with two coyotes, which I like the ability to switch back and forth between coyotes and coyotes. | ||
| I'm fine with that as well. | ||
| I'm happy with that. | ||
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I do it myself. | |
| I do. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It's a fun different way. | ||
| So she's just eating her lunch. | ||
| In a highly populated area. | ||
| And boy, before 9-1-1 can get there. | ||
| Because there are so many people witnessing her getting eaten by two coyotes. | ||
| Bystander coyote. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Oh, man. | ||
| That's tough. | ||
| That's tough. | ||
| And I'm here saying, don't call 9-1-1. | ||
| You see coyotes coming out of the edge of the woods get up and go, wow. | ||
| And they're going to see that predator look that you're just looking at them. | ||
| You're not scared. | ||
| They're going to run. | ||
| But see, what you've decided to do is the virtue. | ||
| You think, roll over and cry. | ||
| Like in all the movies, the guy comes in with a knife and the man or the woman goes, no, don't kill me. | ||
| Somebody comes in with a knife, I'm going to say, and you just literally go, I mean, that's because I'm a maniac, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| That's because I'm a maniac! | ||
| A maniac! | ||
| No, I'm not! | ||
| I'm red-blooded! | ||
| This is... | ||
| He is dancing on the floor, though. | ||
| This is ludicrous. | ||
| So now he extends it to wolves. | ||
| Wolves are in play. | ||
| I'm red-blooded. | ||
| I'm ready to light a bunch of torches up and go running through the woods, running after mastodons to run them off a cliff and eat them! | ||
| It's not like big piles of red meat! | ||
| And that's why I'm free! | ||
| Light the fires of liberty! | ||
| We're coming to the castle! | ||
| I mean, they have taken your humanity. | ||
| I mean, these people fall down in front of coyotes and are eating. | ||
| Coyotes have never eaten people. | ||
| Not in recorded history with the Native Americans or the settlers. | ||
| Coyotes didn't eat people. | ||
| Only wolves would go after humans. | ||
| That'd be a human alone if the wolves were starving. | ||
| In deep winter, if wolves are starving, they will try to eat a man. | ||
| They know we're tough. | ||
| They gotta be starving to try to go after a man! | ||
| Starving to death! | ||
| What's up? | ||
| So he's defending wolves killing people because he's putting the onus upon you, the person getting eaten by the wolf. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The situation with wolves is very similar to the situation with coyotes. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But not in his worldview. | ||
| In his worldview... | ||
| Coyotes are now roving packs of fucking warriors coming out to murder helpless, innocent women on their lunch break. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whereas wolves will only hurt you if you approach them in the dead of winter while they are starving. | ||
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In the deep woods. | |
| He is rehabilitating wolves' image, I think. | ||
| I guess so. | ||
| At the expense of coyotes. | ||
| Yeah, it's unfair. | ||
| It's unfair to both animals, really. | ||
| I mean, wolves have been the target of real maligned perception. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| And coyotes, similarly, there have been kill-offs of them based on perceptions of their predators out to get you. | ||
| And their livestock and that kind of stuff. | ||
| Wolves definitely kill way more livestock. | ||
| Oh, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| But there aren't really many... | ||
| I think I could find two examples, again, of confirmed people who have been killed. | ||
| By wolves in North America. | ||
| By wolves or coyotes? | ||
| Two definitely for coyotes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But then with wolves, I could find two. | ||
| Most of the resources I could find only had two examples. | ||
| Dating back even further than 1970. | ||
| Ah, but not the Native Americans. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Leaving the wolves aside, what we have here when you really get down to it is Alex trying to make his audience scared about a completely made-up thing. | ||
| Which is to say this plague of women being eaten by coyotes. | ||
| And then trying to make them scared about how the globalists trained them to be unable to defend themselves from being eaten by these coyotes. | ||
| Really, really going to have to stop you here. | ||
| Are we talking about coyotes? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Ultimately, it's all made up. | ||
| But that's not what this is about. | ||
| Now that we've gotten to the end of this rant, I think you can see clearly this was never about the fake woman being eaten by coyotes. | ||
| It's about Alex yelling at his audience about how big and strong of a boy he is. | ||
| He's not afraid of coyotes. | ||
| No! | ||
| And for that, I guess I applaud him. | ||
| But this is such a waste of time for his show. | ||
| Like, he's making stuff up, and all it leads to is, I'm strong and brave. | ||
| I'm so powerful, I would never fall down in the face of a coyote. | ||
| Great. | ||
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That's... | |
| Proud of you, Alex. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| That's the mark of a true leader. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| If you've fallen... | ||
| That's the only thing I need to see. | ||
| I would say that it's ironic that at the beginning of this episode, Alex was accusing the CFR of bragging. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Democratic debates? | ||
| Fuck no! | ||
| Throw a coyote in there, whoever stands their ground, new president. | ||
| Done. | ||
| Done. | ||
| Good plan. | ||
| That's how we do it now. | ||
| So we have one last clip here from the 22nd. | ||
| And again, it's Alex predicting this upcoming false flag terrorist attack that is going to happen. | ||
| He names multiple cities. | ||
| He talks very specifically. | ||
| And pay close attention, none of this has to do anything with Boston. | ||
| If America gets its instinct going and goes, ooh, the government's been taken over and is arming against you, they're not going to be able... | ||
| To detonate an atomic weapon in Chicago. | ||
| You know, I just keep saying Chicago. | ||
| Like I said, they'll blow up the World Trade Center and blame it on bin Laden. | ||
| Two months before it happened, I even named the targets. | ||
| Dallas, Chicago, Cleveland, Denver, places like that. | ||
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What about Boston? | |
| Larry Silverstein, you know, owns one of the biggest buildings down there, bought it. | ||
| It was the Sears Tower. | ||
| It's something else. | ||
| He's a nice man. | ||
| He really cares about you. | ||
| Anyways, getting back to what I was saying, ladies and gentlemen, coyotes are on a rampage. | ||
| So coyotes are on a rampage. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he's very specifically there. | ||
| If you know how Alex talks, what he's saying is they're going to nuke the Willis Tower. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Going to nuke Sears Tower. | ||
| So his prediction is shit. | ||
| He named, like, what, six cities there? | ||
| None of them are Boston. | ||
| None of them are Boston. | ||
| I guess you could say cities like that includes Boston, as much as it's a large city. | ||
| But you don't get any credit for this one, Alex. | ||
| This is no good. | ||
| This prediction that you're making is shit. | ||
| I needed to get through this large chunk of time on this episode. | ||
| I'm glad we were able to, because I think we're seeing these trends start to develop more fully. | ||
| Kind of convinced he's going to say Sandy Hook was actors before Boston. | ||
| I really think he's going to. | ||
| I know every time. | ||
| Yeah, but we thought in the last episode that it was going to be the Boston bombing that makes him do it. | ||
| Everything is either accelerated or decelerated his timeline for saying what we all know he's going to say. | ||
| He's fucking teasing us and it's infuriating. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| He did this in the past because he knew that eventually won. | ||
| Coyotes will become an actual threat. | ||
| So I assume in the next six months, be aware that women are going to get eaten by coyotes. | ||
| Take your lunch break indoors, ladies. | ||
| And two, he is psychic, he could see the future, and he's fucking with us on purpose. | ||
| You knew this podcast was eventually going to happen. | ||
| He knew it was going to be there. | ||
| It's likely. | ||
| Yeah, I guess the only question that remains, really, since we know the ultimate end of the road is saying that these victims of the shooting were actors. | ||
| The question is, is it before the Boston bombing or because of it? | ||
| I would bet... | ||
| A substantial amount of money. | ||
| It's before. | ||
| Oh, yeah, no. | ||
| Whereas, just a week ago, I would have said it's because. | ||
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It's because. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, he went on a... | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| He had a fun week of saying there were actors everywhere. | ||
| Yeah, all over the place. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I wouldn't be surprised if on our next episode he starts to apply it to Sandy Hook. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Totally would not be surprised at all. | ||
| I don't know that to be the case. | ||
| Like, I don't have some advance information that I'm like, hey, isn't it going to be great when it does happen on the next episode and I look like a psychic? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| It could be a month after the fucking Boston bombing for all I know. | ||
| Again, it is entirely possible that our predictions will be wrong the moment we change the prediction. | ||
| Actually, I'm going to stay the course. | ||
| I'm going to say it's not until the Boston bombing. | ||
| There is not an observer effect to this. | ||
| It should be pointed out that there is a definitive answer. | ||
| We just don't know it yet. | ||
| Not until we measure it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So it's interesting. | ||
| I'm excited to see where that goes. | ||
| I think that this may be a better way to frame these 2013 and the investigation episodes. | ||
| I have such a tendency to get down into the weeds about learning about every piece of Alex's narrative. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Whereas we are trying to understand the Sandy Hook stuff. | ||
| It may not be in our best interest to learn every little thing about what Alex is up to in this period. | ||
| You know, I don't know. | ||
| Sometimes you tell me one of those details and I'm just as excited as a coyote when Phyllis is on her lunch break. | ||
| Listen, I would never deprive you of finding out about how you gotta give it up to the Somali pirates. | ||
| But, at the same time, we don't need to know about Alex's troubles at South by Southwest. | ||
| We really don't. | ||
| That's not necessary. | ||
| So hopefully, I'm going to try as best as I can to, when we do these investigations in the future, cover larger chunks of time. | ||
| As opposed to just one day from the past. | ||
| We need to make progress through this. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| We've been in 2013 for months. | ||
| There's so many other investigations that I'd like to do. | ||
| I'm interested in the Occupy stuff. | ||
| We said we were going to get into that. | ||
| There's just other periods of time that I think are important. | ||
| We'll be back, though, on Wednesday with a new episode. | ||
| Indeed we will. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| It is knowledgefight.com. | ||
| You bet it is. | ||
| We're also on Twitter, at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan. | ||
| What about Facebook? | ||
| We are on the Facebook, and if you wanted to listen to our show, if you wanted to, you could go to iTunes. | ||
| You could go to Spotify. | ||
| You could also, conversely, find yourself a small family of coyotes. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| None of them can be pregnant or nursing. | ||
| A murder of coyotes. | ||
| A murder of coyotes. | ||
| Get together. | ||
| Have a little powwow with them. | ||
| See what's going on. | ||
| See what they're doing. | ||
| Do you know what they're going to say to you? | ||
| There's a fable among the Navajo. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| There's a tale, a legend, that is told of the coyote who speaks in Knowledge Fight episodes. | ||
| There's one coyote that lives in the desert of New Mexico. | ||
| And if you find this coyote... | ||
| It speaks. | ||
| It'll just open its mouth, and our podcast plays through it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's a nice one. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But good luck finding it. | ||
| Watch out for the other one that says Molan Labbe all the time. | ||
| That one's weirdo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We'll be back, but I am Neo. | ||
| I am Leo. | ||
| I am the Jesus Lizard. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |