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June 7, 2019 - Knowledge Fight
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#306: June 4-5, 2019

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss a couple of modern day episodes of The Alex Jones Show. This installment is a deeply upsetting affair, full of rats, vampires, and Alex wishing murder upon his perceived enemies. 

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alex jones
29:32
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dan friesen
01:27:18
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jordan holmes
24:28
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alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
What is the tallest...
Highest you've ever been.
You know, like height-wise.
dan friesen
Like on weed?
jordan holmes
Like height-wise.
Not weed or drug-assisted heights.
dan friesen
One time, me and my buddy James, we had a tent out in the backyard.
And what we would do is we'd smoke weed in that tent.
And one time we went out there and we decided we were going to smoke until we couldn't anymore.
We wanted to see if there was a point at which we would not be able to do the process.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Could you drink yourself to pass out?
dan friesen
Basically.
Yeah, like an hour and a half later or so, after just constantly smoking, we kind of got bored.
unidentified
Like, you're never going to be able to...
dan friesen
So that wasn't what you asked me, but it is a story.
jordan holmes
I do like that story.
I'll take that one.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But also for like a week after that, we were finding little chunks of weed in the tent that we had just dropped.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
Because you kept rolling and packing.
dan friesen
Tent weed.
So the highest I've ever been is...
That's a tough...
I mean, I've been to the top of like these skyscrapers in Chicago.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like the Aon building and Sears Tower.
I've been on cliffs, too.
jordan holmes
You've been on cliffs?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What kind of cliff?
dan friesen
In Greece, when I was there.
I don't fucking remember the name of the cliff, but it was a pretty big cliff.
Jumped off a small cliff in Hawaii.
jordan holmes
Really?
That's terrifying to me.
dan friesen
This one wasn't that big.
But the one in Greece, me and my brother were supposed to jump off of, and I chickened out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no way!
dan friesen
He was so mad at me.
jordan holmes
I am not jumping off a cliff.
dan friesen
I can't tell if there are rocks down there.
I haven't seen anybody else jump off.
Yeah, it was...
But the one in Hawaii was a bit smaller.
unidentified
No, the cliffs are a trick.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The one in Hawaii was a bit smaller and not as...
The water looked safer down below.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But I don't know.
I don't know how to tell.
I'm not super afraid of heights, but I'm not into them.
That's what I would...
No, that's not the highest.
I went parasailing once.
jordan holmes
Oh, really?
That's fun.
dan friesen
That's not nearly as high as the Sears Tower, though.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
That's not quite that high.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't have a good answer for your question.
jordan holmes
Probably Sears Tower.
dan friesen
Probably.
Oh, Aeon Building is higher.
jordan holmes
Aeon Building now, right?
dan friesen
I think so.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
A buddy of mine had his wedding there at the top of the Aeon Building.
jordan holmes
That's funny.
dan friesen
The woman he was marrying is very rich.
Comes from a rich family.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
They rented out the top floor of the Aeon Building.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
Yeah, it was before I moved to Chicago, actually.
Me and my then-girlfriend came to Chicago for that wedding.
It's a weird wedding.
We had to go all the way down to the bottom to smoke for most of the reception.
But then halfway through the reception, I think there were enough of us that smoked that we were just like, let's just go smoke in the corner over there.
unidentified
Yeah, who cares?
dan friesen
Let us smoke inside.
It was weird.
Weird time.
Anyway, that's probably the highest up I've ever been.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
And I think I got high that night, too.
So it might have been the highest I've ever been high.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
So this is a podcast where I know a lot about heights and Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
And I only know what you tell me about both.
dan friesen
Correct!
Jordan, today we got a very interesting...
By request!
Episode of the podcast.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
From the present day.
It is June 4th and 5th, 2019.
Some real weird stuff happens.
And I'm comfortable saying that it's one of the most fucked up episodes.
Two episodes that I've heard in a very long time.
unidentified
Alright.
dan friesen
I get tired of myself making proclamations.
Like I always say, this is the most fucked up thing ever.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Someone's up there.
It's real up there.
Alex is very weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you do occasionally have a bit of a Carson like, hey, every night you have the greatest guest you've ever had?
That's surprising.
dan friesen
I understand that instinct in myself and that sort of pattern, but I stand by it.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
Some of this stuff made me gasp, quite frankly.
And I've jaded.
I've been doing this for a while.
This is my first Alex Jones rodeo.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if you're gasping, that's...
Oh boy.
dan friesen
So something else I'd like to gasp at is the kind...
Generosity and support of our listeners, and so I need to take a little bit of time to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
First, Jordan.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
You are now a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Not anymore.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you, Jordan.
Who would have thought we'd have a listener named Jordan?
jordan holmes
You know, I was for a while, and I quit on that.
dan friesen
Next, Matt M. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you, Matt M. Thanks, Matt.
Next, Greg.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thanks, Greg.
Next, Petra.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you, Petra.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Petra.
dan friesen
Finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on a bit of an elevated level, and we appreciate it very much.
So, Gorlax, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you, Gorlax.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much, Gorlax.
The destroyer, I assume.
dan friesen
Gorlax, the destroyer of worlds?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Maybe just like municipal buildings?
dan friesen
Okay.
Good enough.
Maybe act locally.
jordan holmes
Think globally, act locally.
dan friesen
So, thank you so much.
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I'd like to support this show, I like what these guys do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking that button that says support the show, we would appreciate it.
jordan holmes
It'd be very nice.
dan friesen
So, like I said, 4th and 5th of June, 2019, super fucked up.
We start off on the 4th.
Alex begins the show talking about a topic that's not really all that fucked up, but you can tell that his head is not right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
By the way, he is getting real pervy, kind of, about a topic that is not fucked up at all and is not pervy.
You'll see what I mean very fast.
alex jones
We have been prime movers here on air, the audience lobbying, Congress and the White House, and myself and law firms that I paid to follow my own research and my own ideas.
About this to create the talking points that reflected the reality.
I didn't just make it up the last three years that by Congress not acting, and now the President not acting the last two and a half, that we were going under EU control.
That's what they're doing!
I watch the Davos meetings.
I read what's coming out of the EU.
And no one has covered it until now and today.
It's CNN.
It's AP.
It's Reuters.
It's U.S. News& World Report.
U.S. said today that we can't let the EU regulate us.
Yes!
Savor that victory.
Savor this rule.
We are changing the world together.
unidentified
We are completing the next phase of the mission.
alex jones
The countdown continues.
jordan holmes
Somebody turn the music up.
alex jones
From stars and beyond.
Humanity is fighting back and coming back from the dead.
dan friesen
Damn, I love that song, though.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a great song.
dan friesen
Whenever he plays it, I just can't not have the feeling of like, fuck, that Policy of Truth is a good song.
alex jones
So good!
dan friesen
So what he's talking about is the House has opened up these possible antitrust investigations into Facebook, Amazon, and Google.
jordan holmes
Right, which turns everybody on.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
Everyone's pretty much fine with it.
jordan holmes
We did it!
dan friesen
Well, I think people across the political aisles are probably like, yeah, let's see if there is anti-competitive practices that are being practiced.
And if the investigations turn out that they...
I do find that there is competition busting.
jordan holmes
Which they will.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I hate to assume before an investigation is done, but it seems like they might.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Then, I don't think that anybody would have a problem with breaking up of businesses that are found to be acting in a monopolistic fashion.
jordan holmes
No, the only people who don't want Facebook broken up are probably the people who own Facebook.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But what Alex is doing is he's conflating that House investigation with campaign rhetoric that Trump's been putting out.
Because I think Trump rightly realizes that he doesn't really have a chance.
In the 2020 election without the support of the agitators online.
The people who are like the Alex Joneses of the 2016 election.
And in order to maintain their support, one of the things he needs to do is give lip service to them.
So a bunch of them feel like they're being unfairly censored for their conservative positions on these social media platforms.
And so he does his, you know, he gives the, like, hey, conservatives are being unfairly targeted.
You conflate this campaign rhetoric that Trump is putting out with this House investigation, and you turn it into, like, these companies are being investigated for the unfair treatment of conservatives.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's what he's doing.
jordan holmes
It's a sleight of hand.
dan friesen
Yeah, when in reality all Trump is doing is trying to create this season's version of Lock Her Up.
So it's kind of sad to see.
But that's the victory Alex is announcing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Anyway, it's weird, because that issue is not something that would make normal people growl.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But yet, Alex will savor the victory.
You can tell, like, if he's covering this story that way, holy shit, look out.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he talks a little bit more about the social media stuff before he gets real, real fucking out there.
But you can tell, even from this, he's talking about the social media stuff.
But the context in which he's discussing it should lead you to believe that his head is just not right.
alex jones
And it's all designed for the global Chinese social score to control human behavior.
That's what it's been shut up to do.
It's what the Bible 2,000 years ago told us was coming.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
And guess what?
It's happening.
Any way you slice it.
But we don't even go there.
Where you'll get the U.S. government to act.
The areas of it that aren't suicidal is that China is helping build the architecture of this and that Apple and Google have moved over there and are tax-exempt and have given the infrastructure codes to everyone's device on record.
This was in Reuters a year ago.
One year ago.
It was in June that that came out.
And boy, when I came out and said, look, Apple says all your code keys are in China, they've merged with the Chinese government, then you said, oh, that's just the way it is.
dan friesen
No, they didn't say that.
They said that you're misrepresenting this.
There's a better argument to have about this.
That's a lie.
That's a complete lie.
They have the codes of Chinese customers.
Which is bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that's very bad.
dan friesen
Not in favor of that.
jordan holmes
We should not be cool with that either.
Just because they're in China doesn't mean it's not, you know, oh, no big deal.
dan friesen
No, no.
But it would be a much different issue if it was the entire world's.
And that's what Alex is presenting, and he's completely lying about that.
And that's why people are like, come on, what the fuck?
But more importantly, you hear there at the beginning, he seems to think that...
In some way, this social media coming together is what was prophesied in Revelation, which is troubling.
unidentified
I don't think he's wrong.
dan friesen
There are shades.
jordan holmes
There are shades.
dan friesen
I don't think he would talk that way at all if he was still on it.
That's the difference for you and I. We could think, yeah, maybe this is the coming of the beast.
We're still on.
I still have a Facebook and a Twitter.
I'm not kicked off YouTube.
I can still recognize the evil of it.
I don't think Alex necessarily would if he didn't have a business interest.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think you're probably dead on.
dan friesen
That's possible.
So, in this next clip, what we've got is Alex apologizing that he's not covering too much news.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice of him.
dan friesen
It is kind of...
I do appreciate an apology.
I don't accept it.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
This is not forgiven.
But Alex is like, I'm just not covering news because it's too hard.
The world...
Well, I would argue it's too difficult for him to...
He's saying it's too emotionally difficult.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
I have stacks of news here, and I've wondered why I don't cover a lot of this.
dan friesen
Everyone does.
alex jones
Because, you know, I get ready for hours at home, and I get ready for...
You know, like an hour or so here, and then I study all day long.
dan friesen
The reason he said for an hour here, and he's trying to say, like, I do a lot of it elsewhere, I study for hours before I come in, is because recently there was a news story about how some of these depositions of other Infowars employees, like Rob Dew and his dad.
There was an article about that for the Sandy Hook case.
And one of the things that came out was Rob Du was saying that Alex gets the stories an hour before he goes on air.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he's trying to reclaim that here.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're like, yeah, here I do it for an hour.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But I'm studying all day.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Get the fuck out of here, Alex.
jordan holmes
Like, he should be honest that he doesn't do that much work because it's so much worse to imagine that he does this much work and this is the product.
dan friesen
It would make what's coming seem a lot more tolerable if he was just like, I'm just winging it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I don't know what I'm doing.
jordan holmes
I have no idea.
dan friesen
No.
alex jones
Off and on.
But I, the left is so evil and so crazed and just so into doing bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
Cool.
alex jones
It's painful to even talk about it.
I get why people don't want to deal with this.
They just want to run away from it because I want to, too.
But you know what?
You can't run away from it.
In fact, when you run away, it comes looking for you.
jordan holmes
Profound.
alex jones
You can't run away anymore, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
Can't do it.
alex jones
Because they're going after the innocents.
They're going after the children.
Here's an example.
dan friesen
I can't cover these stacks of very important news because shit is too difficult that you just want to run away, but you can't run away because they're coming after the kids.
Here's an example.
None of that is...
They're coming after the kids is something he's been yelling for fucking ever.
This isn't new.
This isn't anything.
You've got to expect this has got to be some next-level shit that he's found that has just completely fucked his world up.
Right?
I mean, that's what you expect.
jordan holmes
You would hope so.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Do you want to get to the story that he's introducing?
Or do you...
You seem like you had a thought.
jordan holmes
Well, it's just isn't...
You know, isn't his version of running away not talking about the news at all?
Kind of.
So when he says he wants to run away, but you can't...
I mean, he is, though.
dan friesen
It's a constant act of running away and...
Sauntering away.
jordan holmes
Nice leisurely stroll away.
dan friesen
His life is just a constant...
unidentified
I'm gonna look over here.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is a complicated game of escape that he does.
Sort of the act of pretending to cover something is his way of escaping.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's just an escapist as a performance.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Kind of.
jordan holmes
That's a good way to contextualize it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I often stumble onto things that sound right accidentally.
So here's the story that he's trying to cover that is ground-shaking.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And this is a pretty big disappointment.
alex jones
Bubonic plague, leprosy, drug-resistant TB.
No one's being tested.
It's in public schools.
It's spreading into children everywhere.
I get health department reports from Texas, from California, New Mexico.
We cover them.
Where you'll see the number of leprosy cases, the number of typhoid cases, none of it ever hits the news.
But as I told you, San Francisco and places like that celebrate it.
Coming up next hour, San Francisco's launching restaurants where you dine with rats that eat with you at your table so you can enjoy the ambiance of the rats and celebrate the city infestation.
Oh, but don't worry.
These are rescue rats.
San Francisco dungeon launching rat bar.
Why would you want to be in a dungeon?
Well, see, you're evil.
You'd rather be on a deck with a sunset.
Incredible plants and art and music.
But oh no, let's eat in a dark, dirty dungeon with rats that eat with us at the table so that we learn how to lower ourselves to their level.
Because a certain entity likes that.
Because you're made in the image of God, and, well, this force doesn't like that.
It's called jealousy.
dan friesen
Jealousy.
Hey, jealousy.
The devil is jealous of us humans, so they want us to eat with rats.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
This one's a little bit out of left field, Satan, but I like that Satan is still brainstorming new ways.
Very creative.
dan friesen
Very creative.
jordan holmes
A novelty restaurant.
Who would have seen that coming from Satan?
dan friesen
Ah, crafty.
Old Scratch is up to his tricks again.
Trying to get us into medieval times, but with rats.
Whatever.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So I want to make this...
I'll point very seriously before I get into this.
Alex Jones is so pathetic that this is what he's covering in 2019.
A fucking restaurant where they got a bunch of rats running around is somehow a celebration of how the globalists are giving kids leprosy or some shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
This is next level lazy.
This is legitimately just Alex looking over a list of like 50 headlines and some kind of a weird news aggregator and picking out the ones that he feels natural in his voice and then just riffing on them.
That's all he's doing here.
This is his workflow.
And you know that because he knows literally nothing about the story he's covering except the surface level shit that you would get from the headline.
Here are rats in a bar in San Francisco.
Woo.
The Rat Bar is a pop-up installation in San Francisco, and it's only going to be open from June 13th to 15th.
jordan holmes
The Devil's Days!
dan friesen
It's not a bunch of restaurants.
It's one pop-up.
It's being put on by a group called the San Francisco Dungeon, which, if Alex had looked into it, is basically a mini-theme park at Fisherman's Wharf, the big tourist destination in San Francisco.
The dungeon includes a bunch of themed areas where actors portray characters to give customers the immersive theater experience.
Most of the rooms depict famous aspects of San Francisco history, like two of them are about the gold rush, but not all of their work is necessarily about the glamorous parts of the city's past.
They also have a recreation of Alcatraz and one dedicated to the outbreak of the plague in Chinatown.
There's even one experience that they offer called Shanghai Kelly's Boat Ride, where you learn about the lives of people who were sold as slaves to sailors.
So they're putting on the rat bar as a supplemental thing to their other attractions.
and it's meant to recreate the experience of being in a saloon back in the times before public health works and all that kind of shit.
Honestly, it seems like a little bit of a PR stunt to me, but who knows?
I could see having some fun with it.
Like, I'm not so jaded that I couldn't agree to go along to an escape room or something like that if someone invited me.
I'll never come up with the idea, but if someone invites me, I would probably say yes.
Same thing with Rat Bar.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'd be cool with Rat Bar.
Yeah.
unidentified
That sounds fun.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Also, they did the same thing last year when they opened something called the Rat Cafe.
dan friesen
The only review I could find of that said it was disappointing and there was not enough contact with the rats.
So, whatever, Alex.
It's talking about seems like you might not know what these people are up to.
jordan holmes
That is such a weird review.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think that means it's a good review from my point of view.
dan friesen
Well, it could be dangerous to the rats if you're having, like, you know, if you have people just have free reign to, like, hit them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I get that they're rats, but it's still animal cruelty to just start kicking rats.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, my point is this.
Alex is so fucking lazy that he thinks that this is a story worth covering.
He's in a fight to the death with the fucking government of China, and he's going to spend any of his time talking about how the globalists are trying to normalize leprosy by opening a novelty bar for two days where adults could play with rats?
What the fuck is he doing?
Has he forgotten how intensely he decried attacks on the cat cafe?
What the fuck is going on?
This is so stupid.
Why is he doing this?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
It's crazy to me.
jordan holmes
Does he have a trip coming up?
Is there any reason why he might be phoning it in this early?
Is he doing anything different?
dan friesen
I have no idea.
I know that he has another Sandy Hook deposition coming up next month.
I know that those cases are proceeding.
So maybe he has that sort of Damocles hanging over his head, but, like, I don't know.
I mean, he takes so many intermittent vacations.
He very well may.
We'll never know until Owen Schroyer just shows up for a week hosting the show.
I don't know.
But, like, I was thinking about it, and, like, the lead-up to that of, like, it's so fucking awful to look at the news, but you have to, and then Rat Bar.
Like, what?
I just got...
That's whiplash to me.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just...
I love it on some level, the banality of it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean, if he is, it actually makes sense.
jordan holmes
If he is complaining about how awful the news is, why wouldn't you pick a local access news story to riff off of?
Like, that's his version of being like, up next is your cat the cutest.
dan friesen
This is an example of the news that you do have to look at.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
This is the news that is too terrible and he must avoid looking at.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but I mean, yeah.
You know he's not.
dan friesen
So when I was in college, I got hired to write for this weird college upstart blog kind of thing.
There was a collection of blogs at different universities, and they would pay writers to write content for them.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It was horrible.
It was a miserable experience, and I didn't do it for long, and they never ended up paying me.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is a universal experience with these sorts of things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
But my workflow for it was I would go to a weird news place and just find some sort of a headline like, alright, I'm going to write about this.
Or scan the local paper for whatever headline pops out for something like that.
This is going to be easy.
That's what Alex is doing.
He's using the workflow of a lazy fucking undergrad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's a 45-year-old man with millions of dollars in a professional studio, and he can't be bothered.
He can't be bothered to know what the San Francisco dungeon is.
He thinks it's a dungeon.
He's crazy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but man, does that sound like a good place to be in life.
Right?
He's doing his job poorly and making more money?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's not bad.
dan friesen
At the same time...
jordan holmes
That's a dream of mine.
dan friesen
At the same time, we do see what's on the horizon, as does he.
So it might not be the most pleasant place to be.
jordan holmes
I mean, God, I'm surprised he hasn't just started, you know, like, shipping stuff to some other country where he's allowed in that way.
That way he can just, on a dime, like, bug out bad kids.
dan friesen
Why do you think he loves Bolsonaro so much?
jordan holmes
Fair.
dan friesen
You might have hired a freighter.
So, in this next clip, we get to another news story.
It's not just rat cafes on this episode.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, I wish it was all rat cafes.
dan friesen
I'm not going to tell you that it doesn't come back up, but there are other stories.
And here's one of them.
And, you know, it's not great.
alex jones
What is the latest up on NewsWars.com?
Outrage after Snapchat debuts Love Has No Age filter.
For Pride Month, that's right, you go to Snapchat and they put a filter over your video that love has no age.
That is an actual NAMBLOB saying.
And I first learned about NAMBLOB like 30 years ago.
Howard Stern would have him on making jokes about actual NAMBLOB members.
And people that had published books about sex with children, and it was disgusting.
Then I learned the U.N. had accepted them as a group, as a civil rights group.
dan friesen
They didn't know.
alex jones
I was in my first film, America's Story by Design, I made in 1997.
So I knew about it by then, but love has no age.
North American man, boy, love association.
So the slogan of the pedophile organization.
It's now a Snapchat filter for your children.
dan friesen
Cool.
So, this is a fake outrage campaign that's being based on a video a woman posted of herself with a Snapchat filter about love that is applied to her video.
It makes statements, this filter does, it makes these statements pop up on the video on the screen, including love has no gender, love has no disability, love has no labels, love has no sexuality, love has no religion, and love has no age.
jordan holmes
Which is more about old people.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that's a safe assumption to make.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Naturally, this was taken as an endorsement of pedophilia, and now Alex has made it a leading story.
jordan holmes
I hate everyone.
dan friesen
The article on InfoWars includes these lines.
Quote, InfoWars was unable to reproduce the filter as of this writing on Monday, June 3rd.
The filter was not available when searched on the app.
It's possible Snapchat quietly pulled the filter so as to avoid negative press.
Now, that could mean any number of things, but I suspect that the most likely thing it means is that no one at Infowars knows how to use Snapchat.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
That's my guess.
jordan holmes
Did you download it?
dan friesen
No, I've never used Snapchat in my life.
jordan holmes
Well, then you can't get a job at Infowars.
dan friesen
At least they tried.
I have had the position that I've always been too old.
As long as Snapchat has existed, I have aged out of it.
I don't even want to mess with it just in case I enjoy it.
jordan holmes
When you were 11, you were too old for Snapchat.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
And it was still 10 years away.
dan friesen
If you search through Twitter, you can find a couple examples of people who have screenshot themselves using that filter.
So I guess it was a real thing.
But there's something that's going on that I find incredibly interesting.
So all of the stories that reference this video, all the news articles...
In very heavy quotes, news articles, to talk about it, they all reference a video put on Twitter by a user named Ashley St. Clair, and she posted the video at 9.15pm on June 2nd.
Her video has tons of retweets and is, without exception, the one that is in all of the stories about this on Infowars, Natural News, and Big League Politics.
People have been posting screenshots of themselves with this filter since at least 12 hours before she made her video, but hers is the one that everyone ran with.
And I think there's a clear reason why.
If you scroll through Ashley's timeline on Twitter, you get a very strong indication that maybe she's a big old dum-dum.
But specifically, a very precise kind of dum-dum.
Right next to her retweet about her expose, like the article on Big League Politics about the Snapchat filter expose, she's retweeted a picture, that one that was going around, of Mario and Luigi making out that was tweeted by that Nintendo parody account that started a dumb, fake outrage campaign by people on the right.
And she retweeted that picture with the caption expressing her disapproval of, like, they're brothers!
jordan holmes
Oh, God, no.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
There's constant, pointless, culture war, fake outrage campaign posts on her timeline.
Frequent trashings of people like Lena Dunham, and retweets of shitheads like Jack Posobiec.
Overall, it's exactly the kind of account you would expect from someone who's trying to make their name in the exciting world of right-wing grifts.
The only sites that have articles about her bullshit are sites like Infowars, Big League Politics, Natural News, and stupid right-wing Christian propaganda sites, so I really question what's going on here.
Even leaving aside how clearly this seems like an attempt for a budding young grifter to get her name on the map by stealing someone else's observations, I don't really see how this has anything to do with pedophilia.
All of those descriptions.
They're descriptions of love within protected classes of people.
You can't discriminate against people based on disability or their gender or religion, for example.
So when age is included in that list, it's really easy to understand what it's talking about is ageism.
Like you pointed out fucking immediately.
You understand what the fuck is going on here.
The discrimination against the elderly is what's going on.
I really can't find any evidence outside of right-wing media insisting that it is that proves that love has no age is actually a slogan of NAMBLA.
But I can find proof that it's part of a quote attributed to John Galsworthy, who won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1932.
He said, love has no age, no limits, and no death.
Or there's a quote attributed to Pascal of Pascal's Wager fame.
He's the guy who came up with that.
He has a quote.
Love has no age as it's always renewing itself.
So there's classical examples of people who are not NAMBLO members.
Not to my knowledge.
Dan.
Allegedly, Pascal.
There's also a really popular book from 2011 about adopting dogs called Love Has No Age Limit, but not wanting to just get puppies because there's older dogs that need love, too.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
Now, I would prefer if that was what the filter was all about.
dan friesen
Right, just getting older dogs.
jordan holmes
Just all about getting older dogs.
dan friesen
Typically, when you find the words, love has no age, you're finding them in stories about elderly people getting married.
Like the 2015 CBS article about George Kirby and Darlene Lucky, who got hitched at the ages of 103 and 91, respectively.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's fun.
dan friesen
The headline is, love has no age limit.
Or there's that story that I found from the website Texas FM, with pretty much the exact same headline being about Sue and Dick Tolley, who got married at 87 and 84 years of age.
With very few exceptions, the expression, love has no age, is used to discuss the elderly finding love, and we can all agree that that's some heartwarming shit.
I think Alex is mixing this up with R. Kelly's song, Age Ain't Nothing But a Number, which is very different.
That's quite different.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That comes at it from a more downward perspective.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Downward-looking perspective as opposed to upward-looking perspective on the age number.
dan friesen
Yeah, a little different.
jordan holmes
A little numerical scale, yeah.
dan friesen
And I looked around.
I can't find any official slogan for Nambla.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, what is the official slogan for Nambla?
Why would Nambla have multiple slogans?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
What does Nambla need a slogan for?
unidentified
Period!
dan friesen
I can't find that being their official saying or anything like that, but I did find that there was a group that was a predecessor of Namba called the Rene Guyon Society, and they had a slogan that was, quote, sex by year eight or else it's too late.
And I would say if Snapchat used that on a filter, I think me and Alex could find a little more of a middle ground.
jordan holmes
That was trouble.
That was trouble.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think we could agree a little if that were the filter, but it's not.
jordan holmes
I want to start a riot if that's your slogan, boy.
dan friesen
One important thing to remember is that Nambla doesn't really exist in the way that Alex thinks it does, at least not in the present day.
If he was talking about this in the mid-70s, then he might be able to get away with saying that Nambla is an actively organizing thing, but as it stands now, it's hard to even say that it's a real group.
A lot of this is thanks to LGBTQ activists standing up and excluding the group from their work, which effectively crippled Nambla's ability to present themselves as an advocacy group because they tried to latch on to ascending gay and lesbian rights groups because they're like, hey, I like young boys.
I'm a man.
This is a gay issue.
And LGBT groups were like, no.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
Get away.
dan friesen
They did a lot of the hard work of exclusion for the heterosexual.
The aggressively cis straight people versus...
jordan holmes
The aggressively, unfortunately criminal activity.
dan friesen
It's both opportunistic.
The people in NAMBLA were trying to use the opportunity of people taking LGBTQ rights more seriously as an opportunity for them to mainstream themselves.
And Alex is opportunistically using NAMBLA as a cudgel to hit the LGBTQ community over the head with.
They're both just using things as props to hurt.
The LGBTQ community.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That sounds right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's unusual.
Nobody's ever done that before.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Over the years, the FBI infiltrated the group NABLA fairly easily, and sting operations were carried out that effectively made the group irrelevant as an organization.
People who would have joined were now too afraid to do so.
So instead, they just lurk in fucked up corners of the internet where they can easily protect their anonymity, and they aren't on a group's mailing list, which can be hacked or found really easily.
In 2016, Vice did an investigation that found that NAMBLA, quote, does pretty much nothing.
Even a representative for an anti-pedophile group called Perverted Justice expressed having no real interest in them anymore.
Because the face of the real threat to children is not an organized group like NAMBLA.
It's elsewhere on the internet.
I think this is another example of Alex just being super lazy and relying on information from like 30 years ago to craft his current day conspiracies.
He's very dumb and very bad at his job.
And I can't imagine anybody...
Not recognizing what that filter was unless they were trying to make a fake outrage campaign out of it.
Like, if those other ones weren't there, you got an argument.
That's weird.
If they just had love is no age.
But because of religion, disability, like, it's clear it's about protected classes.
So what Ashley St. Clair is doing...
I mean, obviously she didn't notice it, or she probably saw one of these other people's tweets that were going around in the 12 hours before she made her video.
And she makes her video, falsely characterizing this as a pedophile-sympathetic thing.
And if you look at her timeline, it's really clear that the motivation is probably to stake her space in the world that she swims in.
And this story does kind of have a happy ending.
Because of this manufactured outrage...
That Ashley stirred up.
She got her wish.
And she was allowed to write her first column with a byline for Human Events, the right-wing propaganda bullshit site that Alex's lawyer Robert Barnes is involved in.
jordan holmes
Goddammit, Barnes!
dan friesen
This kid is on her way up!
unidentified
She's gotta go to the top!
Goddammit, Barnes!
jordan holmes
Barnes!
dan friesen
Wait, that's not good work?
jordan holmes
No, it's not!
dan friesen
So, I think you can kind of see what's going on here.
You have a budding young enterprising grifter who has made her first...
Dent in the world.
And it's exciting.
I'm thrilled to see her finally show up on Infowars.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it'll be wonderful to watch her ruin her life publicly.
That'll be great.
dan friesen
Two years from now, she'll scream at Alex about how her life is ruined, and we'll get to play this cycle all over again.
Congratulations.
jordan holmes
Yeah, she really should have watched the Laura Loomer stuff and been like, hmm, maybe I should change my life entirely.
dan friesen
There's a cautionary tale to all of this stuff.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, in the middle of this show, Alex plays a report from John Bowne.
And Jon Bowne sucks.
But this fucking special report was really big for me.
Because I think it put into focus a lot of the feelings that I have about Alex Jones in a weird way.
This was a very watershed couple minutes for me.
jordan holmes
All right, all right.
dan friesen
I think I gained a clarity.
jordan holmes
You had an epiphany.
dan friesen
Yeah, I really did.
And I think it's not what they wanted me to think.
I think it was very accidental and negative for Infowars.
jordan holmes
Surprise.
dan friesen
But here's just a small clip of it.
And what it is, this...
Special report is mostly just old clips of Alex from back when he was on the public access and on his early radio days.
jordan holmes
Almost like a this-is-your-life kind of situation?
dan friesen
Well, the intention of it was to demonstrate why the globalists need to take him off the air.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And so there's all these old clips of him.
And here, I'm going to play you this, like, 40-second part of it where Alex is talking about the Chinese taking over some military base or some shit.
But this is from way back.
And listen to this compared to him yelling about a rat cafe.
Rat cafe!
That juxtaposition is really important.
alex jones
We're now here in Southern California at a little town called Victorville, where George Air Force Base is located.
unidentified
The Chinese have been attempting...
alex jones
To acquire the Air Force Base, and we're told they still acquire it.
But that's not going to stop them bringing in their slave goods from their over 30 million political dissidents in slave labor camps.
Right here, this is the first, we're told, by the workers of 20 such wholesale markets where slave goods will be brought into the U.S. and sold at discount prices to retailers.
So here you have it.
No more middleman for the Chinese military industrial complex to sell slave goods.
They're actually buying up the land, and this, again, is the first of 20 such facilities to be built.
dan friesen
So that's a pretty restrained kind of guy who's on site.
He's doing a field piece.
jordan holmes
Yeah, man.
God, it sure seems like that's the guy you want to go back in time and talk to and be like, hey.
Hey, I'm going to show you this video of what you're going to become, and he's going to break down weeping.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I listened to this special report, this whole special report, and honestly, I thought it was the best work that John Bowne's done in years, primarily because his dumbass voice isn't anywhere in it.
He apparently just edited it all together.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
So good job, John Bowne.
jordan holmes
Nicely done.
dan friesen
But more than that, my reaction to this was astonishment.
It's so insane for Alex to play clips of his past self on the show because it makes it so clear how much he's deteriorated.
You can hear a completely different person in these clips.
His voice is different, his manner is different, his ability to present an idea is different, and to hear them juxtapose with his current state is a severe bummer.
If I were Alex watching that, I would probably start crying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
But even more importantly, I really think that video makes the exact opposite point that they're trying to make.
It's being presented as a collection of instances of Alex being a rebel who stood up to the power over the entire course of his career.
He's the loudest voice expressing the truth about 9-11.
He wasn't afraid to talk about black helicopters.
He was calling out the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds before it was cool.
This is being presented as an explanation for now why he's being kicked off social media.
But all it really does is prove that all the behaviors he's expressing in that video are categorically not the reason he was ever banned.
If they were, he would have been banned long ago.
Everybody was totally fine with him doing this shit for years.
David Rockefeller had no idea who Alex was, and if he did, he didn't give a shit about him.
Alex was full of shit and a little bit crazy, but he wasn't hurting anyone except for people who had way more important things to do with their time than sue him or pay him any attention.
And that status quo is maintainable.
Then, his conspiracies changed.
The conspiracy theories about fluoride, about Waco, about Oklahoma City, about 9-11, those are all directed at the power structure.
They may be misguided and wrong, but on a fundamental level, there are lies about the Department of Homeland Security and the Bush administration, which in the conspiracy world is the equivalent of punching up.
I'm certain that it wasn't the first example of it, but one of the reasons his behavior as it relates to Sandy Hook and his inability to accept responsibility for what he did is because it's such an example of him taking his skills and his pattern of punching up at the vaguely defined power structure and coming down hard on victims whose loved ones had been murdered.
It's an ugly thing to see.
And watching this John Bound report, I'm starting to realize that this is what feels different about the Alex I saw when I started watching him before we started doing this show.
You know, like the checking in in the end of 2016, watching this.
Why that felt different from when I used to watch him just after college.
It's that difference.
Obviously, I haven't watched everything he's done.
But it's my general experience that earlier Alex Jones is way easier to listen to because he victimizes people in power.
He's super unfair to them, but there are people who could crush him like a fly if they gave a shit about what he's doing, so it's a bit easier to stomach.
At some point, he stopped giving a shit, and he started victimizing powerless people, and that's his stock in trade now.
Whether it's random members of the LGBTQ community, whether it's Muslims, immigrants, victims of gun violence, Alex attacks them now as if they were David Rockefeller themselves.
And that's what's gotten him into trouble.
That's what this John Bowne report accidentally makes totally clear.
Alex's imagined enemies would have been happy to let him continue to throw wild punches at them and make a living off his audience, but society doesn't like bullies, and that's what he's become.
I know that no one's paying as close attention to Alex as I am, but John Bound has accidentally created a damning indictment of Alex.
His bullshit about how the Chinese and the globalists need to get him off the air because he's critical of them is undercut by this compilation including clips of him shitting on China way back in the VHS days.
His bullshit about the EU and UN being afraid of him and all his criticism is undercut by proof of him always criticizing them.
He even includes footage of him exposing the truth behind globalist false flags at a point where he was left alone and allowed to grow his business for 15 more years.
What I'm getting at is I have a lot of feelings about this report, but it really made so clear to me that that is the crystalline difference of why it's so much more palatable to go back to 2009.
Or way back.
It's so clear.
He's punching up.
And I don't know if Sandy Hook is the exact line in the sand when everything changed for him and he started punching down.
But I think that's why I'm so interested in that as a time period and why I'm sticking with it.
Like the 2009 period and the rise of the Tea Party stuff, it became such a warm bath to be in because of that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And the harsh difference with the present.
But I do think that even from what we've seen in the 2013 investigation and looking into Sandy Hook, it feels like it's the changing point.
Because he had that caller on one of the episodes who was trying to get him to talk about Robbie Parker being an actor.
And Alex responded to him pretty brusquely, I'm not talking about someone whose family died.
I'm not talking about somebody whose kid got murdered.
The fact that that changes.
It's such a marked difference.
I don't know.
I don't think John Bowne meant for those thoughts to come to me, but they did.
It was an experience.
Listening to that was a ride.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Bowne seems to have created a clip.
An edited video of all the reasons that Alex wasn't kicked off social media.
dan friesen
But presented as the reason.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
Do you see all of those things that weren't kicked off social media?
Do you know where you could have saw those?
On social media when they were made.
dan friesen
Suspicious in its absence from any of the compilation is the times when he's shitting on victims.
jordan holmes
It sure seems like it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and that's what made it so stark and so clear to me.
And, yeah, I don't know.
He helped me organize my thoughts a little bit, and so I appreciate that.
And I appreciate his voice not really being in it.
So, double hat tip.
jordan holmes
That is fun, because if he weren't kicked off social media right now, and that same clip show were to be made, like if he weren't being sued by Sandy Hook or anything like that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Then he would almost certainly have all of the false flags shit in there, because that's part of why the...
Well, yeah, but I mean, like, all of the false flags.
dan friesen
But yeah, he doesn't have, like, I fucking yelled at David Hogg for a long time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, he doesn't have any of that stuff.
No Boston bombing mentions or anything.
jordan holmes
Surprise.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's clear.
It's so clear.
So clear.
Anyway.
I thought that was interesting and probably something I didn't expect to find when I jumped in on this episode.
Because it certainly wasn't why people wanted us to cover it.
Right, right, right.
Nor was the Rat Cafe.
jordan holmes
We're about to get to the reason why people wanted us to cover it?
dan friesen
I mean, sort of.
We're going to get to it here in a second, but Alex jumps in on a new narrative.
Okay.
And it has to do with abortion.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And it's wild.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'll just give you that bit of warning ahead of time.
Shit's wild.
He remembers something that he read and witnessed in the past.
jordan holmes
He shouldn't be allowed to remember things.
That gets him into trouble, Dan.
dan friesen
Right, and it's going to this time.
alex jones
And since the last 45 minutes since I saw these new articles and videos, I've had the crew trying to find, which they haven't been able to do, and I get it.
There's just so much.
I can't remember the exact headline.
It's my fault.
I want to say it was a vice piece.
Pretty sure it was.
It was about two years ago, and it turned out she was an actress, but she really did it.
And it's something like, Vice airs peace with a woman saying abortion feels good, and that it empowered her.
And she's doing a fake orgasm while they're killing her baby, going, oh yeah, oh, oh, oh yeah.
It's so sick, man.
dan friesen
So this is an interesting memory that Alex has of source material that clearly has informed a bit of his rhetoric about abortion, right?
I mean, I think we can agree that this isn't too far afield from some of the stuff he normally says.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
If you're coming out with this claim, though, I would really want to know exactly what I was referencing.
I would not want to come out with...
Some bullshit like, this lady is having an orgasm while getting an abortion, and say, I think I remember something like that.
dan friesen
I'm inclined to believe from all of my abilities of looking into this that there are two sources, and he's conflating them.
And we'll get into that.
But here, Alex is really still trying to figure out what he's thinking about.
What am I thinking of?
jordan holmes
Yeah, what is he thinking of?
alex jones
We've got to find that.
I think Paul Watson did an article about it two years ago.
But this woman is on the abortion table acting like she's having an orgasm, killing her baby.
And she talks about how wonderful it was and how great it was, hoping the system would then cast her in bigger roles if she did something evil like that.
But see, that's what the Satanists do.
They say, sacrifice a baby with us to prove you're in the club.
dan friesen
So, these memories are weird, certainly.
jordan holmes
Sacrifice a baby or eat with a rat, both.
Both equally satanic things to do.
dan friesen
Eating with a rat doesn't get you in the gang.
You can hang now.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
I gotcha.
dan friesen
You can't wear the accoutrement of the gang.
jordan holmes
You're not a made man until you sacrifice a baby.
I gotcha.
dan friesen
You're not a capo.
Or whatever fucking terms Alex throws around.
So Alex, he has this vague memory of something where women are orgasmically enjoying abortions.
And then he finds the article that he seems to be familiar with in some form, and he starts reading it, and this is one of the crazier things that I think I've ever heard.
alex jones
Yeah, there it is.
I come really hard when I get an abortion, and it's not just because I'm killing a baby.
dan friesen
So he's going to read this article, but also, you heard that.
There it is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There is a sense of familiarity, and I think that's incredibly important.
alex jones
There's actually nerve centers in the back of the uterus that can be stimulated through regular intercourse.
Wow, they're fetishizing, killing babies.
The only way to achieve that kind of orgasm is to visit a clinic and have my vagina speculated and scooped out like the bottom of a Ben and Jerry's pint on Me Night.
That's so satanic, man.
unidentified
It's me time.
I'm going to scoop that baby out.
alex jones
See, you guys think I'm joking about this.
I've been around it later.
Oh, you found it.
You found it.
Okay, so let's go back.
Holy Toledo.
In fact, print it all.
Just print it all.
dan friesen
So that article is, you know, that's pretty wild to hear Alex reading words like that.
And it's a real article.
We'll get to it in a minute.
But before we do, Alex starts talking about these demons because he has to wait for his staff to print stuff out.
jordan holmes
He can't.
dan friesen
He doesn't remember what he's supposed to talk about.
jordan holmes
I would prefer it if I never heard him say the word coming again.
dan friesen
You might hear it three or four more times.
jordan holmes
You really don't want to do that?
Could you cut that out?
Can you get some, like, combo breaker in there?
No?
unidentified
Nothing?
dan friesen
I can't.
jordan holmes
Shit.
dan friesen
So, we're going to get back to this article here in a second, which does exist as an article.
But before we do, Alex is talking about the demons.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
We find out that demons ask you to do a certain thing that Alex seems to talk about a whole lot.
Alex seems to know what happens if you do what these demons say.
This makes me really convinced Alex killed his dog, is what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
alex jones
Get to understand, folks.
I didn't get around Satanists that are in trailer parks killing their dog when they're taking LSD so they can see demons, which, by the way, do pop up when you kill your dog.
They demand really bad stuff.
I fell into real Satanists, okay?
You know, with helicopters and mansions.
For not very long.
I was never part of it.
They just wanted me in it.
dan friesen
That's like the going to the rat cafe version of this.
You're not really in.
jordan holmes
You're not in the group.
dan friesen
I don't know how you know that when you kill your dog, demons pop up and tell you to do really bad things.
jordan holmes
And not only that, but he just threw it off.
He just tossed it off like, oh yeah, this is just another detail.
Don't even worry about this.
Demons do pop up.
I know it from experience.
Demons do pop up.
dan friesen
It does seem like something you'd have to know.
jordan holmes
It seems like you'd have to be there to know.
dan friesen
It seems experience-based.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's a problem.
jordan holmes
And he's specifically pointing out that it's not the LSD high kind where you're basically accidentally killing your dog.
He's just like, hey, by the way, demons do pop up when you kill your dog.
dan friesen
It also seems weird because should anyone in his audience want to talk to demons, now he has told them how to kill your dog.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
That's no good.
dan friesen
So convinced he's killed dogs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does kind of seem like it.
dan friesen
It's such a preoccupation of his.
jordan holmes
It really does seem like a thing.
dan friesen
This started out as a joke on our show.
jordan holmes
I really was joking when I asked where Nonk was.
And now I think we all know where Nonk is.
dan friesen
We need a house.
Investigation into these dogs.
It might be the Michael Vick of the right-wing media.
jordan holmes
It might be.
dan friesen
I don't know.
So anyway, we get back to this article now about women coming from abortions.
And I speak derisively because when I tell you what's going on here, it is not something that needs to be taken seriously.
But Alex is taking this quite seriously.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
So let's go back and read her talking about scooping her baby out and having an orgasm.
I remember something like that and I say it and I go, you know what?
Let's actually show you because I don't want you thinking that came out of my brain.
I come really hard when I get an abortion.
unidentified
It's not just because I'm killing a baby.
alex jones
There's actually nerve centers in the back of the uterus that can be stimulated through a ring.
jordan holmes
Please stop this.
unidentified
Please stop this as soon and as fast as possible.
alex jones
I have my vagina speculated and scooped on at the bottom of a bin in jury.
unidentified
I really want him arrested.
alex jones
It's dangerous but liberating.
Why did the adrenaline rush from base jumping or Snapchatting nudes to a co-worker?
dan friesen
Snapchat even comes up and he doesn't use that as an opportunity to go to his other narrative about love has no age.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he's too busy jerking off.
dan friesen
It's crazy.
This is so gross.
jordan holmes
This is gross.
alex jones
In the final equation, they give their children to the fires of Moloch and Baal.
dan friesen
This is Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say.
He even changed his tone of voice.
alex jones
A interdimensional transmission controls them.
And when you see the entities controlling them, they're fallen.
They're evil.
And you're like, why are they doing this?
jordan holmes
Why are you doing this?
alex jones
And it's because their spirit never truly touched God.
jordan holmes
That might be true for you.
alex jones
But for some, it's even worse.
Some commit the ultimate sin and feel the Holy Spirit and are given a vision of the next level and refuse it to engage.
unidentified
In interdimensional sex with the demons.
alex jones
Oh yeah, when you're killing your kid and you know you're doing a ritual, you get fully put...
jordan holmes
Hunters, anglers, campers, and survivalists.
dan friesen
Okay.
Card break there.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
This article that Alex is reading on air is evidence that women are sexualizing abortions?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This isn't a real article.
unidentified
Oh!
dan friesen
This is a post on Thought Catalog written by Nicole Mullen, an alias of noted troll Nick Mullen.
Starting in July 2013, Mullen started posting articles that are clearly satire on this Thought Catalog page.
His first article headline is, quote, calling anti-gay stuff homophobic is disrespectful to people with phobias.
The articles are so clearly trolling that it would take someone doing literally zero investigation to think that this was in any way serious.
Here are some of his other headlines.
Quote, so are we just not going to tell Chinese people that New Year's was a month ago?
Quote, is anyone else mad that poop is brown?
Quote, you know who didn't complain about minimum wage?
The slaves.
And the very meta one, quote, study shows racists are more likely to read clickbait.
So anyone who would believe anything on this blog are complete shitheads.
Or people who are so desperate to justify their idiotic argument that they don't understand that their purported evidence for their dumb fuck point is actually parody.
jordan holmes
Or people who are really, really turned on by that.
dan friesen
Oh, well, I would put that in the desperate to justify camp.
Fair, fair.
But I do think that the important subgroup...
unidentified
If there was a video, Alex would know about it.
dan friesen
I know it's a lot of effort to just click on that little button and see what else the writer has posted to get a sense of the tone of the blog.
I can't expect someone who professes to be an expert and very smart and able to read to do that much digging before he reports something.
So I'm not going to ask Alex to have done that.
I'm not going to come down on him.
But here's the thing.
In this case, that step is unnecessary.
That fucking article itself is so clearly satire.
It just jumps off the page.
Here are some parts that should have been red flags for Alex and his crack staff if they actually read this article.
jordan holmes
You're going to have to read it like he did.
dan friesen
I won't.
Quote, Let me let you fellas in on a little secret.
Women don't get mammograms to prevent breast cancer.
We get them because it feels good to have our titties played with by a machine.
It's just that simple.
If you read that sentence and you were like...
jordan holmes
Liberals!
Goddamn these liberals!
Women doing stuff like that?
Who knows what they do in those mammograms?
I'm not allowed!
dan friesen
Quote, we're made to feel shame for getting abortions and often made to feel even worse for having orgasms during the procedure.
Let me ask you this.
If it was wrong and unnatural, why am I squirting?
unidentified
That's a good line.
jordan holmes
I do like that line.
dan friesen
There's a whole part about doctors who would molest women to treat hysteria back in the day.
Manipulate their genitalia.
It goes into talking about how they would die from complications of rheumatic fanny waste.
It's really funny to see Alex be this huge of an idiot.
It clearly reinforces what's become a theme on this show lately, which is pointing out how lazy Alex is and how he doesn't know anything he's talking about.
But I think there's something really scary that this suggests.
This article by Nicole Mullen was posted on February 12, 2014, and Alex doesn't seem to be unfamiliar with it.
You know, he said, there it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He seems to know of this article.
jordan holmes
Two or three years ago by Vice, except it was actually five years ago and it was a post on Thought Catalog.
dan friesen
It definitely fits a lot of his rhetoric.
And from listening to his show, it really sounds like he's read this article years ago.
There's an outside possibility that a lot of his arguments about abortion in some way, in some portion, are based on this very clearly troll blog post.
It should scare the shit out of people for a couple of reasons.
One, it calls into question what level of prank or satire could be behind some of his other beliefs.
But more importantly, two, it demonstrates how far through the looking glass we are and the insanely evil and fucked up things someone who misunderstands satire can do with that satire.
I got a lot of messages from people asking me to cover this, and as a guy who respects listeners' wishes, I was happy to oblige.
But I believe that this story, as insane as it is, and how embarrassing it would be for Alex if he gave a shit about anything that he does, is one of the less important aspects of these two-day shows.
It's fun to laugh at Alex, and I fucking love doing it.
I've been listening to that clip of him yelling about donuts repeatedly since we recorded that episode on Monday.
As is so often the case, as is so in this case, though, focusing only on the easily mockable stuff like this is missing the forest for the trees.
I believe I expressed at the beginning of this episode, but this show, even without Alex falling for a clear troll blog post, is one of the most fucked up detestable displays that I've seen in the last two and a half years of doing this show.
There are clear indications that Alex is actively trying to get people killed, and he does not give a shit.
And he uses some of this stuff to reinforce that.
So while we laugh about Alex getting trolled by this post about women going to get orgasms or going to get abortions because it's sexually pleasurable, while it's funny to laugh at how bad of a job he's doing, it's important for us to listen to the rest of this and see where it goes and see what the dangerous things he builds on this are.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, maybe we shouldn't have taught some people how to read.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
It's an interesting thought.
jordan holmes
When a modest proposal came out, people didn't suddenly start terrorizing the Irish because they ate so many babies.
Like, they didn't blow up Irish...
unidentified
Did they?
dan friesen
Maybe there was a smattering of it.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, they just hated them already.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
They were just...
That was incidental.
They didn't use them actually eating babies as an excuse.
They already hated him, which is why the satire was so effective, is because he was playing out with that.
dan friesen
And what's so effective about this, unfortunately, is that it's very close to something that Alex would use as a narrative in the present day.
And people who know about Nicole Mullen, they know that this is...
Alex being a fucking idiot and everyone could dance all over it and laugh at him.
unidentified
But most people don't.
dan friesen
Most of his audience don't.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And there's no reason why Alex has any initiative or any reason to come on air and be like, hey guys, I really screwed up.
I'm sorry.
That was a troll blog.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I got tricked.
jordan holmes
No chance.
dan friesen
I got tricked by something someone wrote five years ago and, sorry, women aren't going to get abortions to come.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Sorry, guys.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Because he's not going to say sorry.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
He's not going to correct himself.
dan friesen
There's no consequence for him not just continuing as if that's real, even if he's aware that he got fooled.
So before we get to what I was talking about and how this takes a turn towards the incredibly dangerous, Alex has to tease that he is about to slander Steve King, which he never ends up doing.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Stephen King, excuse me.
jordan holmes
Oh, Stephen King.
unidentified
The author, not the guy who used to do open mics here.
jordan holmes
Not the horrifying racist representative from Iowa.
unidentified
Not him either.
dan friesen
Also not the guy who we did comedy with who now writes for SNL.
A lot of Steve Kings in the world.
jordan holmes
Great Steve King.
It's Stephen Castillo.
Follow him on Twitter.
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
It's the author, Steve King, Stephen King.
Fuck, I'm so confused about that.
jordan holmes
A lot of Steve Kings.
dan friesen
Anyway, the author, Alex, he never gets around to actually following through with this, but I want to play this clip in case he eventually does, so we know that it's very premeditated that he is going to slander Mr. King.
alex jones
This is real.
And I'm going to explain something about Stephen King.
I'm getting ready to come out against Stephen King.
I'm getting ready to come out against them all.
jordan holmes
Just the way you put that.
alex jones
Stephen King put stuff in his books and things he says that unless you've actually been in this stuff, you wouldn't know about.
What a piece of crap.
jordan holmes
Is he just talking about Maine?
alex jones
They're all pieces of crap.
And they're all slaves to the devil.
jordan holmes
It does sound like he's talking about Maine.
dan friesen
He's got some inside information about stuff in Stephen King's books that you'd only know if you were on the inside, which comes off so fucking hollow after he reported on a troll blog.
So, like, your reading of Stephen King's books, I don't trust.
I no longer trust you.
But please fucking slander him.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Because you know what?
He doesn't care either.
He doesn't care what you say.
You could just make a whole fucking...
And even if he did, if he heard whatever you're saying, he'd be like...
I was on cocaine.
I was deeply into cocaine.
I made maximum overdrive.
I am crazy.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yeah, I am.
dan friesen
There's no reason why.
Whatever accusations Alex could throw around, he's like, yeah, I was on a lot of blow.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Next.
So we now almost immediately get to this part where it's super duper dangerous.
So Alex was talking about the demons and stuff and how they're making these women come during abortions.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And he's talking about how a lot of people, particularly Anderson Cooper, are demon-possessed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's all good and well.
You know, it's in his ballpark.
The Anderson Cooper is a demon.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Whatever.
Fun!
How far have we gone that that rolls off my back like water off a duck?
jordan holmes
Way too far.
Way too far.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, he's calling a newsman a demon?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What are you going to do?
dan friesen
I don't even get out of bed for that.
jordan holmes
No kidding.
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
That's insane!
That should be so interesting.
Someone with a radio show calling Anderson Cooper a demon, that should really be like, oh, we've got to talk about this for a while.
jordan holmes
Yeah, those were the days, man.
You know, escalation happens all across the board.
You start watching Vanilla, and then all of a sudden you're into BDSM.
It takes two seconds these days.
dan friesen
That's what I hear.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, the kids escalating with the bullshit.
dan friesen
These millennials.
jordan holmes
Anderson Cooper's wrong.
Two seconds later, guess what?
He's a demon.
dan friesen
What are you going to do?
And now, where does that go?
Once you've established he's a demon, it goes to this.
And this is, uh...
Man, I...
This clip is four minutes long, but it's way longer than most of our normal clips, and we'll have to pause it at points.
But, like, I kept...
I listened to this a couple times because I was trying to track the path of his thoughts because they're so deeply disturbed.
Yeah.
unidentified
And I also was like, well, I could cut it here and turn this into two or three clips, but I couldn't find places to cut it.
dan friesen
No, he appreciates.
They need to stop it!
No, but trace this thought and see if you agree with my assessment that he is sort of telling his audience that God will reward them if they kill Anderson Cooper.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's calling for a jihad!
Oh, that's not good.
dan friesen
It feels like it.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
alex jones
I am beyond their grasp now.
But children aren't.
And that's why these demons come after our children.
And we'll just pray against Anderson Cooper.
And if we'll just pray against the enemy, God will break them, not us.
Vengeance belongs to God.
But we, in many cases, are the dagger which God will plunge into the metaphysical heart.
I want to explain that.
Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord.
Vengeance is mine, but who says God's Doesn't use vehicles.
dan friesen
That right there alone is so fucked up.
jordan holmes
That's just saying murder.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because you're God's vehicle.
dan friesen
Well, it's at least saying, like, if you do it, then you're probably enacting God's will because Anderson Cooper is a demon and he's trying to get to your kids.
So, I mean, God, yes, vengeance is God, but he uses vehicles who are metaphorical daggers.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
That could not be more clear.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it goes on.
alex jones
But God is a God of free will.
God doesn't trick you.
And God doesn't give you jobs you can't complete.
You may tell God, I'm completely turned over to you.
I'm ready to die for the truth.
I'm ready to do whatever it takes.
And God will say, alright, let's give you a test.
Let's see how much you can handle.
Let's put this much weight on you.
You didn't handle it?
No more weight.
But when you start handling the weight, God starts piling it on and on and on and on.
And as the weight piles on, your interdimensional sight opens like pressure when you're doing a deep dive.
dan friesen
So he's now saying that God will keep challenging you if you rise to the challenges that are put in front of you by God.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Now, you're an agent of free will because God's got a free will universe.
So if you become the agent of God's vengeance...
Right, right, right.
Vengeance is God's, but you're a vehicle for God's vengeance.
That's a lot.
I can't say strongly enough, he, without saying go kill Anderson Cooper, is heavily implying that someone should.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, Jesus' parable of the talents was not about becoming God's instrument of murder.
It was more just about stewardship and competency.
dan friesen
I beg your pardon.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was more about just like, hey, if you're good at this, then it's all right.
Also, he did it with talents, whereas Alex did it like he was a drug dealer.
He was like, God will give you some weight, and if you can move that weight pretty good, then maybe he'll give you a little bit more weight.
That's all I'm saying.
God's going to keep raising your profile.
Pretty soon you'll be a coppa.
dan friesen
He was using weight in that sense to be like...
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, no.
I know, but it sounds like...
It sounds like...
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this goes on, and I think Alex loses the thread, and it really starts to be unclear what...
Like, he's mixing metaphors, because I think that there is a piece where he realizes, like, I have gone too far down this particular path.
jordan holmes
Murder Anderson Cooper Road?
dan friesen
Yeah.
But I have to kind of continue, because the spirit's feeling pretty good.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I gotta keep on this tip.
jordan holmes
I'll take a left onto maybe harm Anderson Cooper Plaza.
dan friesen
I gotta control myself.
Let's see if I can figure out a way to do it.
I don't think he sticks the landing because it stops making sense really fast.
alex jones
And the threat is in how deep you go.
It's that if you ever try to go back to the surface, you're no longer a person of that.
dan friesen
I think he's talking about the bends.
alex jones
You don't stare into the abyss and come back from where you were.
dan friesen
So now he has found the metaphor, the guiding metaphor that he can jump off this topic with.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Because he's talking about all the weight that God will give you and then you go down so deep you can't come back to the surface without being changed.
And now he's re-contextualized it as looking into the abyss.
But that is a metaphor for looking at evil.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You look at the abyss and the abyss looks back at you.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That is not like looking upon God and you become deified by God's divine blessing.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
That is, you are corrupted by looking at evil.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, that metaphor almost directly applies to Alex's own life.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's what he does to his audience.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
But so he finds that and he's like, I can riff on that.
All right, this is where I'm going to go.
I'm going to take a left.
alex jones
When you stare into the bush as a conscious being, you don't become fallen like these vehicles, like these automatons, like these avatar flesh bags.
dan friesen
What happened to the MPC meme?
What happened to the MPC meme, Alex?
jordan holmes
It's the biggest one there's ever been!
We're going to make it the biggest one!
alex jones
This particular, one of the richest men on earth.
dan friesen
That's Anderson Cooper.
He's not that rich.
alex jones
But you don't ever come back.
And I think that's something you need to know, ladies and gentlemen.
jordan holmes
Thanks!
alex jones
You don't ever come back.
jordan holmes
What about the time you told us to kill him?
dan friesen
Like a minute ago?
alex jones
Danzig said it's a long way back from hell.
And do you really want to cross that line?
Do you want to take a life?
dan friesen
What the fuck?
unidentified
What the fuck?
jordan holmes
Did he just go back to it?
Wait, did he just go back to it?
The Abyss looks back...
dan friesen
But it's a good thing.
The Abyss is a good thing in this case.
jordan holmes
Now we're driving right down on Murder, Anderson Cooper Lane again.
dan friesen
I think he realized, like, ah, yeah, fucking Danzig.
I like that song.
Oh, shit.
There's a murder lyric in there.
jordan holmes
That was such a...
dan friesen
It's unfortunate, but it is reinforcing what he said earlier, which is fucking deeply disturbing.
alex jones
You see, you don't need to fear he who can...
Take the life.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
But you can take the soul.
So just remember, if you want some intergalactic space junk trash to run your life, if you want to be Anderson Cooper...
jordan holmes
What, like the Millennium Falcon?
alex jones
Then you can join the dark side.
But if you want the keys to eternity...
And the keys to things that the eye has not seen, the ear has not heard.
You must reject the devil and all of his minions and all of his pimps and all of his pomps and all of his enforcers and all of them.
dan friesen
Pomps.
alex jones
And that doesn't mean that you give up who you are.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
The truth is, God will show you who you are.
But until you've crossed those bridges, until you've faced those demons, you're never going to have God open the gates up for you.
And once you've seen into heaven, you'll never know why people didn't join God.
It's extremely painful.
And I'll tell you, you will feel very pathetic and weak in the presence of God.
You will feel unending power and understanding and explosive will.
But you yourself in God's presence will feel incredibly dirty.
The truth is someone close to God has unlimited power over these devil worshippers.
But once you're in the presence of God, like it says in Revelation, the saints take their crowns off.
They throw them down.
Because God's consciousness and all the secrets of the universe is so big, it's pathetic.
dan friesen
I think he was faking crying there, or maybe sincerely crying because he didn't have time for an ad pivot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it was coming.
You could feel that coming.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
The end, he was getting a wrap-up signal.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Totally.
Totally.
There was a sense, I was like, I've got to find a way to jump, but I can't.
I better just talk about how I have been in the presence of God and kings throw down their crouts.
jordan holmes
Right.
The orchestra's like, Meryl, we get it, you won more than one Oscar.
Quit with the speech and...
dan friesen
That was so fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That was...
I mean, the part about it where it's very clearly an inspirational act of terrorism, hoping someone will hurt Anderson Cooper, that part alone is like, you cannot do stuff like that.
Then it's attached to this bizarre spirituality that he's presenting, where each point of the spirituality is in service of reinforcing his wish to have someone harm Anderson Cooper.
He says that God won't open up the gates of heaven for you unless you face his demons.
You face these demons.
Who are the demons he's talking about?
Fucking Anderson Cooper and people like that.
He says that God won't give you more weight than you can handle, and if you can handle it, he keeps giving you harder stuff.
Well, what's fucking harder than killing a CNN anchor?
Like, everything is in service of reinforcing that without what he perceives as the legal consequences of just saying, like, someone fucking take that guy out.
jordan holmes
Right.
Dan, I just had an epiphany of my own.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
Have we ever stopped and considered?
That maybe Alex still worships the devil.
Because think about it.
dan friesen
I'm listening.
jordan holmes
He is describing God almost exactly the same way that the Inferno describes the devil.
Like, it is everything.
Like, even the...
Okay, God gives you one little bit of weight.
Then he gives you more.
Doesn't that sound more like temptation?
Doesn't that sound more like temptation breaking down your defenses against that?
dan friesen
It also sounds like something like the third layer of hell that Dante goes through.
Something like weight that never ceases to increase.
Some sort of punishment.
Some sort of Dantean punishment.
jordan holmes
And when you're near God, you have control over demon worshippers and demon followers.
Do you know who else has control over demon worshippers and demon followers?
dan friesen
I'm not sure that he said that.
jordan holmes
Yes, he did.
dan friesen
Did he?
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he said you have complete power over all of these devil worshippers.
dan friesen
I might have let that blow right past me.
jordan holmes
And who sounds more likely to tell you to kill somebody than the devil?
So I'm starting to get a clearer picture that he is actually worshipping the devil and he's convincing people that that's a form of Christianity.
dan friesen
I think that this is a really interesting theory.
And I don't think I have any proof to the contrary.
jordan holmes
There you go.
Also, he's killed dogs to summon demons!
dan friesen
Yeah, you know what?
That's the other thing that's really interesting, is the certainty and the experiential conversation about the killing of a dog brings up a demon.
unidentified
Bloop!
dan friesen
Like he's clippy, coming out like, hey, looks like you killed a dog.
Anything I can help you with?
He's talking about that like it's happened to him before.
The same way he's talking about being in the presence of literal God.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
And God doesn't really show himself to too many normal people, but who does?
dan friesen
The devil.
jordan holmes
Satan.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Boom.
dan friesen
It's been a while since we've really heard a non-batshit person say that he's been in the presence of God.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, just alone, the sort of very terrifying religious overtone, Stuart, he's saying, makes me think he needs to get some serious help.
And because it's all applied in service of something that I really think is illegal, I think that what he's saying about Anderson Cooper is inspirational terrorism.
It's the wish to hide behind your words while you inspire people to commit terrorist acts.
It's unacceptable on so many...
I very much pray.
I don't pray.
But I really hope, for Alex's own sake, no one tries to hurt anyone at CNN in the coming weeks.
jordan holmes
I hope for everybody at CNN's sake that nobody tries to hurt anybody at CNN.
Alex can go fuck himself either way.
dan friesen
I think that was more what I meant, but I phrased it poorly.
jordan holmes
It makes me believe that there is a secret ongoing battle between heaven and hell, and Alex has been corrupted by the great lord Satan, and that we need to start taking Satan really seriously.
dan friesen
That's a more interesting way to look at it.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Probably less practical, though.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But we should, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Warn someone?
dan friesen
Write a novella?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We have different angles on this.
I think this podcast is the best we can do in terms of warning somebody.
It's not like I'm going to call the feds on him or something.
jordan holmes
Nobody listens to us anyways.
dan friesen
So, like I said, I think he was pissed off that he didn't get his plug in there after he had riled up the audience with all that.
Because that's intensely trying to evoke feelings in people.
And so he was mad.
So he comes back and he has a commercial for the...
Eight-pack power stack.
unidentified
Yay!
dan friesen
This new product.
Also, by the way, Memorial Day sale ending.
New sale.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
The force sale.
jordan holmes
The force of...
dan friesen
He has a sale.
It's a four-pack of things that have the word force in it.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
I gotcha.
dan friesen
So those are on sale.
unidentified
I gotcha.
New sale.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
But he's got the eight-pack power stack.
And this commercial goes off the fucking rails real fast.
jordan holmes
And this is a live read.
dan friesen
Yes.
Because he's still in that head space.
I mean, the commercial breaks are like two minutes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he comes back, and he gets into this about how, like, it's the best.
These products are the best.
Like, you understand?
I got eight things in here, and each one of them, the best.
And then he gets really mad, and it goes so far off the fucking rails.
alex jones
I'm going to explain something.
Metaphysically, I'm not going to sell you something that isn't the best I can do.
unidentified
Or you can blow my head off!
alex jones
I'm not a devil worshiper.
I'm not out to get kids.
I'm not out to screw people.
I cannot do it.
Do you understand that?
You understand?
I'm a God-fearing person, ladies and gentlemen.
unidentified
Oof.
dan friesen
Creepy.
So, it's the best, or you can blow my hat off!
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
As they say, the gentleman doth protest too much.
jordan holmes
If you were going to buy a car...
dan friesen
Yeah, oh, holy shit.
jordan holmes
This is the best car you've ever driven or you can blow my head off.
Sir, I would prefer not to do the latter, so the former must be true.
dan friesen
I've always wanted an RV.
Like, I really would love to live in an RV at some point in my life.
I would love to do that.
If I went to an RV dealer and, like, it was a reasonably priced, like, in my wheelhouse...
Good-looking RV.
And he's like, this is going to be great, or you can blow my head off.
I was like, no deal.
I've got to get out of here.
You saying that means, first of all, it might come to that.
jordan holmes
I will go to the scary people who look like the hills have eyes, because I know at least I can trust them not to blow their own brains out.
dan friesen
I want a salesman who's almost disinterested in the transaction.
jordan holmes
I know, right?
That makes you feel so much more trusting if the guy's just like...
I don't know.
Buy it.
Don't buy it.
dan friesen
Not somebody.
I don't want a salesman who's putting their life on the line for a sale of pills.
unidentified
That is some Gary Glenn Ross type shit.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Sad sack Jack Lemmon just going like, oh, if you don't buy this house, I'll blow my brains out.
No, I mean, this house is so great, I'll blow my...
Oh, shit, I meant...
dan friesen
We need the brain force leads.
So, in this next clip, it's still a continuation of that ad going off the rails.
Just, man, it's like, this is disgrace.
Disgrace city.
alex jones
I don't engage in manipulation.
I don't screw people over that trust me.
When I read Zuckerberg saying, my users trust me, they're dumb effers, I'm the opposite of that.
And not even because I'm some goody-two-shoe.
I metaphysically don't even think like that.
But if I even imagine the enemy screwing over people that count on me, that's when I get scared.
I'm never scared.
I'm never scared.
Who are you talking to?
I get really scared.
I get really alone.
I start having a panic attack.
unidentified
It's like, who the hell wants to kill babies and celebrate it?
alex jones
That ain't good luck, man.
That ain't good luck.
I'm nothing special.
jordan holmes
Game over, man.
unidentified
I don't want to kill kids.
Good.
alex jones
I don't want to blow the planet up.
jordan holmes
Sounds like there's a butt coming, though, right?
alex jones
That ain't that special!
That's why listeners don't need to call in and tell me how great I am.
How great I am?
Because I know I come from a long line of humans, so I want to be pro-human, and I want my kids to have a future?
Being sane is not special, folks.
Except when you live in a world of crazy people.
I said I'd take your calls.
jordan holmes
8-Pack.
alex jones
Oh no!
dan friesen
He is losing it.
jordan holmes
That's rough.
dan friesen
That was still part of the ad, by the way.
jordan holmes
So buy 8-Pack?
dan friesen
Metaphysically, can't screw you over, but I have panic attacks thinking about the enemy.
It's really hard to tell how much of that is pretty performative and how much of it is like...
Him representing something he does struggle with.
It's very hard to tell, but whatever it is, it doesn't belong on air.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does seem like he's almost describing how you would feel if you knowingly sold shit to people.
Everything that he's describing is exactly how you would feel.
You would stay up at night being like...
Fuck, I hope nobody catches me because I'm a fucking fraud.
This whole thing is a goddamn fraud.
I'm so terrified, and I'm never scared, even though that's a fraud thing to say!
dan friesen
Unless you're Bone Crusher.
jordan holmes
Unless you're Bone Crusher.
dan friesen
He is never scared.
He hangs out with Fat Man Scoop.
jordan holmes
Do you know what he is?
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Ready.
dan friesen
Yeah, okay.
So, uh...
If you thought that that clip we heard earlier, where Alex was very heavily implying that his audience should murder Anderson Cooper, was the only time on this June 4th episode that he suggested that his audience kill somebody that he doesn't like, you'd be wrong.
Because he starts talking about the governor of Virginia, Ralph Northam.
And listen to this.
It's almost even more explicit.
alex jones
I said I'd take your calls.
dan friesen
That's just to illustrate that this is a continuous thing from that freakout in the last clip.
jordan holmes
So it's not like he took calls for 20 minutes and then we get over to this.
This is just one long thing.
dan friesen
He's doing that yelling about the APAC power stack and how metaphysically he can't screw anyone over.
I promised I'd take your calls.
jordan holmes
Still in the middle of the ad read.
alex jones
I said I'd take your calls.
It's just all the evils being confirmed.
The whole world government, the whole plan to get our kids.
And I can't believe we've got to go through this.
I mean, look at Governor Northam.
You know, I don't wish any harm against Governor Northam.
jordan holmes
That sounds like there's a but coming.
alex jones
And I pray nobody does anything to him.
But if somebody walked up to him with, say, a samurai sword and cut his head clean off, would we say it was a post-birth abortion that he promotes?
Or is it wrong to cut his head off with a samurai sword because maybe that didn't keep him comfortable?
Maybe, I'm not saying do this, I'm saying hypothetically, like a Stephen King novel.
He got kidnapped and taken to a house, and then you put him under with a medical injection so he doesn't feel it when you cut his head off.
Because you kept them comfortable.
Or maybe you put them on a bunch of painkillers and he's all, I'm going to keep you comfortable now like you did that little baby.
Because you see, you're going to kill the baby after they bone.
Well, why not keep them comfortable?
You see, why not?
I mean, when do we stop aborting people, Northam?
Oh, I get it.
You have value, Northam.
You exist.
And because you exist and you decide which baby lives and which baby dies.
unidentified
That makes you somehow some high and mighty person.
dan friesen
I think he really dropped the ball with high and mighty person at the end.
I think his brain was trying to come up with a better noun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think he just punted.
jordan holmes
I think I'm offended on behalf of the Georgia accent.
I apologize to everybody with the Georgia accent.
dan friesen
I gotta say, Alex disagrees.
He loves that impression.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
He does it so much.
jordan holmes
It's really bad.
dan friesen
It's almost offensive.
I think it's offensive.
I think there's a lot of things that I know from listening to hours of this show that doesn't necessarily get represented on the show.
And one of the things in the present day that I am not doing good enough I don't think so either.
jordan holmes
I think he's almost just doing an impression of somebody else's impression of a racist.
Do you know what I mean?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, you don't do a George W. Bush, you do an impression of Farrell's George W. Bush, you know, that kind of thing.
dan friesen
It's not incredibly close to Northam.
I wouldn't be able to pick it out if I didn't constantly listen to his show and know that's what he was doing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But, I mean, congratulations, Alex, on the don't do this, but I wonder if someone chopped his head off, it would be a late-term abortion.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That one's not good.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
I mean, it's more overt, but at the same time, not...
Like, if he said just that, I'd be like, hey, Alex, that's irresponsible.
Don't fucking do something like that.
The Anderson Cooper one, I legitimately think...
I think that's illegal.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't think...
Or if it's not, we need to change some laws.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because that is exactly how you get people to commit crimes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, with the Northam one, he's hiding his hypothetical behind the samurai swords.
Like, that does all the heavy lifting on the, I'm not actually telling you to kill Northam, because I'm making a joke about samurai swords.
dan friesen
Well, that's one piece of it, and then the misrepresentation of abortion laws.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so he's trying to compare it to, like, I think that what you're advocating for is murder, and so, you know, he hides behind that a little bit.
jordan holmes
The Anderson Cooper one is straight out saying, I hope he gets murdered.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I hope he gets murdered.
dan friesen
But it's still of note, and it's still worth pointing.
I believe that these exist on the same show.
And it seems like he's in a murder headspace.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
For sure.
jordan holmes
And a weird, creepy sex headspace.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Which, that kind of does seem to go hand in hand for him.
dan friesen
But it's also not...
That's not too...
Abnormal.
So we have one last clip here on the 4th, and it's more talking about Northam.
And he's saying that, like, Northam, you're not going to die young.
unidentified
You're going to die old, and there's going to be a demon by your bed.
Okay.
dan friesen
All right.
Cool.
alex jones
Have fun.
dan friesen
Here's how this goes.
alex jones
Well, let me tell you, Northam, you're already going to figure it out.
You'd be lucky if somebody chopped your head off with a samurai sword.
Brother, that ain't happening.
You're going to live a long life, and when you're sitting there on that deathbed, there are going to be demons sitting all around you.
There's going to be one sitting right at the end of your bed, and it's going to be rubbing its hands together and saying, buddy, before you know it, I'm going to be attached to you forever, sucking your eyeballs out and ripping your guts out forever, ever, ever.
And it's going to be so sweet.
And you know Northam already when he wakes up at like 2 a.m. in the morning.
He looks down at the end of that bed.
He sees that little friendly fella sitting down there.
Because that's what it's like for these guys.
Little friendly fella.
Little friendly fella says, I want dead babies.
unidentified
And Northam says, yes, sir, I'll get that for you.
alex jones
Little devil says, that's good, Northam.
You're going to be all right.
Until Northam on that deathbed.
jordan holmes
He has a lot of inside knowledge on what demons do.
dan friesen
He does, but it's all made up.
jordan holmes
Another checkmark on the list.
dan friesen
The thing that I walk away from a clip like that with is a sense of, like, how much does he think he's being funny?
You know?
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good question.
dan friesen
It's tough to tell.
jordan holmes
Because the accent kind of implies that he thinks he's being funny.
dan friesen
I wonder.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I wonder.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the point.
dan friesen
Because it's not funny.
jordan holmes
And it's not a good accent.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he's making points that are what he politically believes.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And there's not a satire aspect to it.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Well, as we already know, he can't understand satire.
dan friesen
Absolutely not.
There isn't the political commentary sort of comedy going on here.
There is just possibly attempts at humor along with his...
His terrible political arguments.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know.
I was thinking about that a bit when I was listening to this.
It's like, how much should we be criticizing him for his failed attempts at humor?
Because it doesn't often come off as humor.
It seems like he's just crazy.
jordan holmes
It really doesn't sound like he's trying to be funny.
dan friesen
But I could see him making the argument that I'm trying to make jokes.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Well, now that you've pointed it out to me, it reminds me of...
Like, the way it sounds, and if he is expecting a laugh, it reminds me so much of the same guy at an open mic who is like, I am so funny, and does a bit, and it's terrible, and then ten years later becomes a right-wing fucking...
dan friesen
Or Dave Rubin or Steve Crowder.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
These people who are like, I'm doing comedy, yes, all I'm doing is being a fucking dick, but it's comedy.
jordan holmes
And saying what I believe in a silly voice?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound right.
dan friesen
So I wonder about that.
So we jump off here on the 4th and get into the 5th, and Alex has had a little bit of a jarring experience on the way into the studio.
And that is he's, I guess he's seen some homeless people.
alex jones
So that's all going to be coming up here today.
Just the stacks of news, I have three of them dealing with the border, is the last two DHS heads, Democrats, the current DHS head, The heads of the Los Angeles government now admit it.
They're all admitting it.
That their cities are collapsing into medieval squalor, and that it's only getting worse since something's happening to the public, and more and more people are refusing to work.
Well, just on my way into the office this morning, I dodged zombie-like homeless people three times.
Now, I don't live in the city, in the main part of the city.
Our offices are not in the main part of the city.
dan friesen
We know.
unidentified
We've been.
alex jones
In two of the cases, the police were already on the scene with men that looked, again, like zombies.
Ribs shrunk in.
One guy was in his underwear, feces streaming down his leg, running out into the street, almost causing a car wreck because five or six cars in front of me slammed their brakes on.
Then I get up another mile or so down the road, run into something similar.
Then I get close to the office.
They're stumbling out in traffic trying to be hit, wild-eyed.
This is a manifestation of the true evil and the drugs and the alcohol and the opioids and the laziness and just the breakdown of society, and it's accelerating, ladies and gentlemen.
It's like Day of the Dead out there, and it's only going to get worse.
dan friesen
So he says there at the end, it's intentional, it's a plan.
So the thing that I think that's ugly and gross, but I also don't think it happened.
I think he is embellishing and exaggerating his morning drive.
But to hear somebody talk that way about homeless people and to be someone like Alex Jones is disgusting.
Because if you see these things, you witness...
People living in that kind of condition.
And your response to it is, well, this is the fucking globalists, as opposed to some sort of empathy, some sort of a, what can we do?
What systemic issues can we address to help people not live in the circumstance that I'm seeing in front of me?
It's insane.
It's heartless.
jordan holmes
The idea of what he is, which is somebody who is actively campaigning for policies that increase the number of homeless, then blaming the homeless and vilifying them and calling them disgusting in service of supporting policies that will only create more homeless is fucking...
Nightmarish.
dan friesen
And make the people who are living in those circumstances much more hurt.
jordan holmes
And they're not even...
Like, already, he starts with zombie-like because that's what he sees them as.
They are not human.
They're not human.
dan friesen
Nope.
They're on the long list of people he doesn't think are people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, just the fucking...
There's never...
There are a lot of homeless people in Chicago.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
And if...
If somebody, I was, like, if you and I were walking and...
dan friesen
I've seen you walk past somebody and then turn around and go give them a dollar.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I've seen you go out of your way because you realized you had a dollar.
Like, I know that that's, you know, maybe not solving the systemic issue.
jordan holmes
No, it doesn't do anything.
dan friesen
I'm just trying to testify to your response to people as opposed to saying, like, a fucking zombie.
jordan holmes
I mean, the idea of somebody just turning around and saying, like...
Like if we walk past them and somebody's like, look at those zombie people.
I'd be fucking livid.
dan friesen
It would belie something else about them and how they see people that would be like, this is unacceptable.
I'm not going to hang out with you.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
It's indicative of a larger condition.
jordan holmes
It is fucking gross.
dan friesen
But it also is that same sort of thing I was talking about with the difference between his past self and his present.
It's like, it's punching down.
It's so much just like...
I don't know how he would have covered homelessness in 95 or 97. I have no idea.
jordan holmes
I assume he would blame the government for creating the circumstances as opposed to...
dan friesen
And I think to a certain extent he still does, but with much more downward punching.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, he's describing them as disgusting.
And, yeah, sure, the globalists are trying to create them.
dan friesen
And they put them in that state, but fuck them.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Shit running down their legs and they're wide-eyed and pants falling down.
Yeah.
So that's gross.
Also, of note is the fact that...
So, on the 4th, Alex covered that clearly fake blog post about women having orgasms while they get abortions.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You would think at some point, maybe while he's on the air, or maybe by the next day, one of his staff would have been like, Hey, Alex.
Stop talking about that.
That was not a real article.
You'd think if they had any kind of journalistic integrity, he would have figured out by then it was a fucking troll article.
jordan holmes
You would hope.
dan friesen
But on the 5th, he comes in, he starts talking about all the proof of societal collapse.
And what do you know?
That article is referenced in his list of pieces of examples.
jordan holmes
God, I hate that.
alex jones
While the establishment breaks away and prepares the next move, the forced depopulation.
Which you'll be begging for by the time they implement it.
dan friesen
By the way, I want to be clear that that exists in the context of him talking about these zombie homeless people.
So when he's saying that this depopulation thing you'll be begging for, it's really an expression of him wishing all these people were dead, I guess?
It's an expression of...
Let me tell you, from my drive in...
Once it all really starts happening, once there's so many more, you'll want them all dead.
That's not what we will want.
That is clearly what you, Alex, are expressing you want.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
alex jones
Problem, reaction, solution.
But there are forces in places like Japan and places like Brazil and places like the U.K. to a certain extent and the United States.
That want to get off of the globalist social engineering designed post-industrial post-human era plan that I've been talking about for 20 plus years that now you see is mainline all over TV, all over radio, all over culture.
Humans are a disease.
We're bad.
We should be gotten rid of.
You shouldn't have children.
We should kill babies after they're born.
They're subhuman trash.
It's so much fun to have an abortion.
It's sexually pleasurable.
Vice and CNN say to have an abortion.
It's a new fetish.
jordan holmes
Vice and CNN, huh?
We're up in the game on that one.
dan friesen
It really spiraled this one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But all those things aren't true.
But it's just one of the clearest and least true examples in that list.
All of his arguments are based on just slightly polished up piles of shit.
And they still look like shit.
It's just if you have been indoctrinated, you're like, nah, that's not shit.
jordan holmes
I bet somebody did try and...
Actually, I would almost guarantee that somebody was like...
Hey, this was a completely satirical article.
And he was like, no, no, no, no.
They wrote it satirically, but they meant what's behind it.
He's like, no, no, no, no.
It's written by this guy.
No, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Or someone tried to get him to understand.
And then he's like, no, no, no, no, no.
See, they're trying to get women to have orgasms.
Okay, Alex, whatever.
That's what we call...
jordan holmes
I'll see you tomorrow, buddy.
dan friesen
That's what we call schizophrenic tendencies.
So, in this next clip, Alex is talking about Edward Bernays and his work.
jordan holmes
Always fun.
dan friesen
His propaganda work.
jordan holmes
Always fun.
dan friesen
Again, Jerome Corsi has claimed that he was trained by Edward Bernays.
So, anything Alex wants to talk about him being evil, well, I guess maybe that makes sense, because now Jerome Corsi's suing Alex.
But still, whenever Alex brings up Edward Bernays, like he does in this next clip, he doesn't say, like, and he trained that son of a bitch to, of course.
jordan holmes
Which would be way more fun.
dan friesen
Instead, he just reveals just how much of a...
It's difficult how you would put it, but I would put it as, like, Eurocentric he is, in a bigoted way.
alex jones
Women did not smoke cigarettes until the 1920s.
It was seen as uncouth.
It was seen as dirty.
They would smoke cigars because cigars were ladylike, and that's why they had the pretty band on them, so that women wouldn't get nicotine on their white gloves.
But women would smoke in private.
That was the style from Europe, from Spain going back 500 years after the discovery of tobacco in Cuba by the conquistadors.
I digress.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you do.
dan friesen
You do.
You do.
So while it is true that the Spanish did introduce tobacco to the European market as an item of trade back in the 1500s, saying that it was the discovery of tobacco shows so perfectly how Eurocentric Alex's worldview is.
At the point when the introduction of tobacco happened for the Western world, the native peoples of North America had been using tobacco and had ceremonial uses for it as well as for trade, possibly as far back as 4,000 years prior.
Alex is condescendingly saying, but I digress, as if to imply he's on the cusp of getting into some area that he has a deep knowledge about.
But it's crystal clear that what he has is a piece of distorted knowledge on the subject that centralizes European involvement while erasing anything in any culture that doesn't fit into his paradigm.
This is such a clear-cut example of that mentality that Alex has that makes him such an unreliable narrator about history and culture.
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
And the version he's expressing is one that erases populations he doesn't identify.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's a colonialist.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That's a fair way to put it.
jordan holmes
He's trying to own everybody else's space, including history, and then convert them to this bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's a colonialist.
dan friesen
That's a fair way to put it.
I was being generous with Eurocentric.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
I think while I was going over it, I was struggling to find the right word, but I think you nailed it.
unidentified
Why, thank you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this clip is unimportant at all, but it's just an example of Alex trying to launch into some, like, here's what the conspiracy is, and then what do you know?
It's exactly like a movie.
alex jones
IQs dropping, neurological disorders exploding all over the world.
And it's because it's all being done scientifically.
We're being inflicted.
We're being poisoned.
We're being hit.
We're being stunned.
We're being corrupted.
And the globalists admit this in their own documents.
This is not my opinion.
Everybody knows this, but we need to be conscious about it and warn others.
It's like The Golden Child.
It's a fiction film, but it's a good allegory where they can't kill the golden child, the devil can't, his demon can't, until they get him to eat the blood of sacrificed, tortured children.
What do you think Pepsi puts in its drinks?
jordan holmes
Eddie Murphy?
dan friesen
Yeah, that movie was a comedy.
unidentified
Eddie Murphy made that movie between Beverly Hills Cop and Beverly Hills Cop 2. No!
jordan holmes
And I don't recall him enjoying it very much.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Not highly remembered as a classic.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Could have been a portent of things to come with, Eddie.
dan friesen
Yeah.
All that aside, it really is important as an example of everything as a fucking movie.
Everything comes back to something not real or...
alex jones
God damn it.
dan friesen
Selene keeps jumping on my lap.
She's being very aggressive.
So in this next clip, we get back to the fucking Rat Bar story.
jordan holmes
How can we get back to Rat Bar?
Rat Bar's gone!
Rat Bar's gone!
dan friesen
He covered it on the 4th.
Now he's got to bring it back on the 4th.
jordan holmes
Here's what you do for...
Here's covering Rat Bar.
Hey, they started a Rat Bar or something.
Whatever.
unidentified
Next!
dan friesen
Or don't.
jordan holmes
Or don't.
dan friesen
Don't even touch it.
jordan holmes
You could not talk about it.
dan friesen
Right, because all you're doing is buzz marketing for them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know it's not a national news story?
San Francisco Rat Bar.
dan friesen
It was.
They covered it on Fox News, and that's why Alex is aware of it.
jordan holmes
God, I hate everyone.
Fuck Fox News forever.
dan friesen
Here's Alex on Rat Watch Day 2. Rat Watch.
alex jones
I was coming into this segment to break down the globalist plan to...
Bring our borders down, which is now out in the open, and get to the latest developments.
jordan holmes
It's rats!
alex jones
San Francisco celebrating rats inside the restaurants, sitting at your table.
jordan holmes
Aw, shucks.
alex jones
Again, this will be the normalization.
Now you're discriminating against rats because you don't want them running around.
You don't want your typhoid.
It's all coming up.
jordan holmes
Okay.
We'll just get some rats that don't have typhoid.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, rats!
dan friesen
It might be a nice preemptive thing just in case something goes real wrong.
jordan holmes
With the rabbi.
Yeah, you've got to set up in case everybody gets murdered by rats.
dan friesen
Remember how I warned you?
See, I told you!
unidentified
Demons!
jordan holmes
Demon rats!
dan friesen
On the off chance one of the rats goes rogue.
That's a good investment.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if that bears out, that's a penny stock.
dan friesen
Yeah.
No cost, only profit.
So, in this next clip, Alex is talking some about the abortion folk.
He's getting back to it.
Much like the Rat Cafe.
Right.
He's sort of doing almost a redo of the day before.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
He wants a second take.
dan friesen
I think maybe he felt bad about all the murder on the last episode.
I like the rat bar.
I like that as a narrative.
jordan holmes
It's a good one.
dan friesen
I like that fake article about women having orgasms from abortions.
jordan holmes
That was pretty cool.
dan friesen
So I'm going to get back into the abortion stuff because it felt good coming out of my mouth.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I really feel like I can do it better this time.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he...
jordan holmes
Kill all humans!
alex jones
Damn it!
jordan holmes
Nope, I gotta redo that one, too.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he also is on a real vampire tip on this episode.
jordan holmes
Sure!
Why not?
dan friesen
So there's a lot of abortion vampire-ism going on.
Here is where it sort of starts out.
alex jones
Let's face the real horror.
This isn't a vampire movie.
But you go read Bram Stoker, you'll watch the remake of it in the 90s.
Keanu Reeves and the rest of it.
What does Dracula bring his queen's little babies?
They all get around them and drink the blood of the baby like they're eating corn on the cob.
That's actually how it's done.
These people don't live forever, but they'll torture the living daylights out of your baby for days.
dan friesen
This is the blood libel.
But also, Alex, it's so funny that he's like, in the movie, they're drinking the blood from the baby like it's corn on the cob.
That is how they do it.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
I can't get out of, like, I'm still lost in Keanu's eyes right now.
unidentified
Oh, sure.
jordan holmes
I'm going to need to take a break.
Look, his accent, terrible, but he was exactly who John Harker was.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
It was a great performance.
Greatest living actor.
alex jones
Like it's corn on the cob.
Now, bite big old chunks out of those thighs.
Rape them.
unidentified
They like to prick them with little sticks and suck more blood.
alex jones
They're favorites of two or three-year-olds because they can hear them begging for mama.
That's the whale song to these demons.
jordan holmes
You know a lot.
alex jones
They like that a lot.
jordan holmes
Maybe too much.
alex jones
See how it works now?
dan friesen
He's saying that a lot on this episode.
jordan holmes
You see how that works?
See how it works?
dan friesen
Yeah, as if he's just revealed something, first of all, that he hasn't said a fucking hundred times in the past, and second, that it reflects any kind of reality.
Like I stopped in the Mendelec clip to point out, this is just classical anti-Semitism.
This is a narrative that is deeply rooted in historical anti-Semitism, and he's just applying it to his enemies.
Either because he wants his audience to know, I mean the Jews, or he just has some sort of an awareness that this works.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they did a really great job using this against the Jews, so why not use it against everybody I don't like?
That's the problem with this horrible thing.
It was used racistly.
Now we just need to use it on everybody but white people.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, already, in that last one, you're hearing a real...
It's almost old hat and trite for us to bring up, because Alex does it so fucking much, but it's like, if you're characterizing your enemies this way, that they're drinking the blood of children and prefer two- to three-year-olds because they're old enough to scream for their mother, what the fuck wouldn't you do to them?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, what the fuck is off-limits to do to these people?
Because if you don't stop them...
Who's to say your kid isn't next?
Which is something that Alex even does imply all the time.
It's what he does.
He's painting these people as irredeemable monsters.
And he continues to do so in this next clip.
But what he does is makes clear that these people who are a member of this vampire cult, everybody who's in favor of abortion, and all Democrats.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
So, you feel safe, folks, with this kind of stuff going on?
Because next hour, I'm going to show you women talking about how they have orgasms when they go in and have abortions and how much they love it.
And by the way, you think this is just a few women?
No.
You go to any Democratic Party event or anywhere in the legislature where they're trying to restrict abortion, and women show up in business suits, not just meth-ed Antifa.
And they start licking their lips and becoming demon-possessed.
unidentified
They go, I love Satan.
I love Satan.
alex jones
I mean, it's all on video.
Just like a vampire.
Because they're vampires, folks.
There's a spirit.
They're vampires.
The Democratic Party is part of a worldwide pedophile vampire cult.
And now their low-level members are being spiritually inducted.
The enemy is powerful.
unidentified
Just like what?
jordan holmes
Just like what, Dan?
Just like what?
That's going to destroy me!
I'm going to wonder about what they're doing!
dan friesen
You've got to let it go.
You've got to give yourself the serenity prayer.
jordan holmes
I will not fear.
Fear is the mind killer.
Oh, that's not the serenity prayer?
dan friesen
It's not time for a Dune reference.
I mean, that's just insanity.
It's crazy.
But the other thing that's really important is that he's talking about how he's going to cover the abortion orgasm story again coming up.
But then he starts talking about how women in business suits, not these meth-head Antifa folk, which is classist.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
First of all.
jordan holmes
Sure.
At least, Dan.
At least.
dan friesen
He says that they go to these abortion rallies and they're...
And it's all on video.
And it is.
I've seen the videos that Alex is talking about.
They're people fucking with him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So it's weird.
That you have this situation where it's like both of these things are people fucking with him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's turned into reality for him.
It's a very sad thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If it wasn't a situation where we had states passing these restrictive laws and women are going to die because of it, there's a trend towards something that's really fucking scary and dangerous.
If I were looking at this like an anthropologist, it'd be very interesting to just see him as this figure who was so stupid.
He made a career thinking people fucking with him was real.
There's an archetypical feel to it, like the buffoon.
The fool.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I see what you're saying.
dan friesen
The fool who manages to trick tons of people into funding his idiocy.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's very interesting, devoid of the consequences and context.
But it's really sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if it were a thousand years from now, this would be a really interesting time to be...
dan friesen
Even 50 if we get the ship righted.
unidentified
50?
jordan holmes
Oh, you're such a summer child.
dan friesen
A lot of progress can be made in 50 years.
So he brought up the rat story for a reason.
And that is because there is something he wants to couple with that rat story, the rat bar.
And he's already kind of done it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, typhus, TB, that kind of stuff.
dan friesen
Which he believes immigrants are bringing in.
Oh, okay.
That was in that clip that he was talking about.
And that's because that's what this story is to him.
That's where this story lives.
And that's why he is willing to cover it, even though it's a fucking novelty pop-up.
Bar.
It's not even kids who are going to be there.
It's a bar.
unidentified
I feel like we have to go.
dan friesen
I think it's sold out already.
It's a two-day thing.
Tickets went quick.
jordan holmes
Man, it'd be so cool if one of the people who ran it were Alyssa.
dan friesen
That'd be nice.
So anyway, here is that clip.
And listen to how he's coupling immigrants and rats.
alex jones
Those dirty American border agents that are getting typhus and TB.
And are saying we should at least test people for diseases.
And the Democrats say, no, no funding for that.
Let them in.
It's humanitarian.
Let them into your schools.
Let them give you the diseases.
Let them, let them, let them.
Have dinner with rats in San Francisco.
Make it chic that there's rats in feces and needles everywhere.
Have a dungeon with rescue rats.
No, it's not a new Disney movie.
It's rescue rats at the table with you, with little rat turds.
dan friesen
I think he's thinking of Chip and Dale.
Rescue Rangers.
jordan holmes
Rescue Rangers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It has to be.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
Because there were no rats.
Like, even...
dan friesen
What about Monterey Jack?
jordan holmes
Monterey Jack?
dan friesen
Wasn't he a rat?
jordan holmes
Was he a rat?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I feel like he wasn't.
Well, none of the good guys were rats.
dan friesen
Wasn't that chick a mouse?
jordan holmes
Yeah, she was a mouse.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Chick?
dan friesen
Lady.
I only remember Monterey Jack.
jordan holmes
What was the one where they go down under in a condor?
dan friesen
That was Fievel.
jordan holmes
No, Fievel went west.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
What was the second one?
It was Secret of Nym?
That also had rodents.
jordan holmes
Secret of Nym, that had rodents in it.
But Secret of Nym was the Rats of Nym.
Very powerful.
dan friesen
Green Wall series?
jordan holmes
Red Wall.
How dare you?
How dare you, sir?
dan friesen
I'm not a dork.
So...
jordan holmes
Rescuers Down Under.
That's the one.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Name way too close.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Jaja Gabor.
dan friesen
So, like I said, we're doing a repeat of the last day with these narratives quite a bit.
You got the rats, because he wants to reinforce that what he's talking about is immigrants.
You know, they're bringing disease to these poor border agents, and they're trying to normalize it with rats at the table, and da-da-da.
So he also needs to get back to actually talking about the orgasm abortion story.
But man, he just can't do it.
It's too hard.
It's exactly a mirror of the last day here, too.
Trying to present the idea that it's just too hard to cover this stuff.
alex jones
This is going to be hard for me to cover.
But the children and the innocents demand that we do it.
And I'm not being dramatic when I say that.
I've got a stack here of seven or eight videos and of ten articles with the most evil stuff you've ever heard of or ever seen that's happened to our children.
And I'll just be honest with you.
I've been getting ready to cover this for about an hour during the breaks.
And I'm not being dramatic.
I actually can't cover this right now.
I just can't do it.
And I'm being honest with the audience, ladies and gentlemen.
jordan holmes
Man, when you say that, it sure feels like you're not.
dan friesen
Ooh, yeah.
That's so fucking performative.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He doesn't even really get into anything all that different than what he got into the day before.
This is pathetic.
Yeah.
So...
jordan holmes
Which would you go with?
What?
Aborgasm or abortgasm?
dan friesen
The prior.
jordan holmes
Or how about orgbortion?
dan friesen
Probably that one.
I like a clump of the portmanteau, though.
So that one is probably...
I don't know.
Don't vote on this.
jordan holmes
Too late, no.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex, because it's too hard, he can't get into it.
Which, again, is just nonsense.
He wants to talk about how everyone out there can do so much for the info war.
I, speaking as Alex, I don't have any training.
I didn't go and learn how to make documentaries.
alex jones
I just do it.
jordan holmes
I didn't even finish community college.
dan friesen
Right.
So he's trying to inspire his audience to get involved and do things.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think he's advising them to do things that they should absolutely not do.
Now, maybe they're not as bad as the day before when he told people, yeah, you know, you should probably maybe stab Anderson Cooper.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But this is not great.
This first one is he wants people to just honey trap people.
jordan holmes
Oh, doing a bunch of honey pots.
Yeah.
dan friesen
All right.
This is a strange.
jordan holmes
This is a bad idea.
dan friesen
Usually go incredibly well.
jordan holmes
Doesn't it usually wind up being used for crime purposes?
dan friesen
Yeah, there are a lot of people who on an amateur level do it, and it's usually a crime.
And then it's usually not looked back on very fondly whenever the feds do it.
But here's Alex saying, hey, if you're hot, go trick people.
alex jones
And I can't sit here and teach a class on how to take down the globalist here on air, but here's one example.
If you're a good-looking woman...
You could go into any city or any county, and you go around any Democrats, they're going to be pedophiles, drug addicts, devil worshippers, or a mix of it.
How do you think Veritas gets all this incredible footage?
All you've got to do is go have drinks with these people.
jordan holmes
And then lie about them.
alex jones
And you can record them and all their crimes, and you just put it out.
They can't stop you.
dan friesen
Sometimes they can't.
jordan holmes
They're all crooks.
alex jones
I understand this.
But I can't do it all.
And I'm not bitching or complaining at you.
I'm just saying, when you realize that...
You ever wonder why, like, every Project Veritas video is someone saying, yeah, we cover up the kids getting raped in the elementary school?
We like doing that.
Yeah, we got aliens voting.
We hate America.
You're like, these are like caricatures.
These people hate the country so much because they're evil.
jordan holmes
They are like caricatures.
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex is so close to getting like...
jordan holmes
They're exactly like caricatures.
dan friesen
Why do you think these videos are almost too perfect?
Because they're fucking edited.
jordan holmes
I think it might be because they're doing it that way.
dan friesen
Yeah, because they're editing them to be caricatures because it's so irresistible to the right-wing media.
It becomes the greatest...
Cottage industry possible.
Yeah, he's so close to just being like, ah, what?
jordan holmes
And it sounds like he actually doesn't understand.
dan friesen
I don't think he does.
jordan holmes
Isn't that crazy?
You can't say the first 75% of that and not come to the conclusion that...
dan friesen
I think that what we've seen, like with the troll article and, of course, the women yelling, I love Satan, at abortion rallies, he's very easily tricked by things he wants to be tricked by.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
So, these Project Veritas videos, I'm sure he doesn't give a fuck about considering what they actually...
jordan holmes
Did you ever notice how they so conveniently fit our narratives, almost as if they were doctored and edited to look that way?
I am going to come to the conclusion that it's because it's true.
dan friesen
It's almost like they were created in service of reinforcing our narratives as opposed to being documentary in nature.
Oh, yeah.
Wait, did James O 'Keefe ever have to give a dude like $100,000 after he got sued?
unidentified
I think he did, yeah.
jordan holmes
But that's probably because he was too right.
dan friesen
Did he almost go to fucking federal prison for breaking into...
To a congressperson's office under false pretenses?
jordan holmes
Really surprised he's not in prison.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That would have been a smart move on everybody's part.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's one suggestion he has, which is basically his honeypot, people.
unidentified
I like it.
dan friesen
And the next one is a little bit more troubling because of what it implies would be the end result of doing something like this.
alex jones
So I'm not going to tell people what I think they ought to do.
Nothing violent.
But if you simply go to any drag queen story time and write down the license plates and then go to an accredited private investigation system, they can legally and law free run the plates, and you're going to find upwards of half of them are convicted child rapists.
Then you just publish that.
That's one group you can target right now and protect children from pedophiles.
The government isn't going to do it.
dan friesen
That is incredibly fucked up for a number of reasons.
I mean, you'd have to kind of...
I guess stake the place out and find out whose car is who or else you're just going to be doing an investigation on everybody's cars.
I mean, Alex is assuming the conclusion you're going to find before you actually even start looking into something, which is not a healthy way to do things.
And then, I mean, ultimately what you would end up doing is, I would assume you probably wouldn't find that many sex offenders, and what you would still want to do with that information is publish it, because you'd still want to hurt these people somehow.
jordan holmes
And that information would probably have their addresses, and their phone numbers, and their email addresses, and maybe crazier people would just show up at their place.
dan friesen
This doesn't come from a place of wanting to protect children.
It comes from a place of wanting to hurt people that you think are weird.
jordan holmes
No, he's creating a vigilante.
dan friesen
Right.
With the pretense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, we're working within the law.
dan friesen
Right.
I'm certain there's going to be so many sex offenders in there, and you're just going to be protecting the kids from them, as opposed to creating a database of people who you think deserve targeting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Here's one group you can target is not a sentence that is ever worked out well in the end.
dan friesen
It's even bad when you're talking about just marketing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Here's a group you can target.
Why are you doing that?
That's sneaky.
It's creepy.
Stop it.
So finally, Alex gets back to the troll thought catalog article, and he reads it again.
jordan holmes
He reads it again?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Does he do it creepily?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
But he decided to do a different kind of creepy.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
Woman celebrates her cool abortion on YouTube.
There's another woman celebrating it.
dan friesen
That is a different thing, and we'll get to that later.
That is another...
We'll explain.
I just wanted to point out that that's a different story that he uses as support for this.
alex jones
Can we stop the pretending like abortions don't feel good?
unidentified
Ugh.
alex jones
You talk about evil, but this is all just a big lie.
I come really hard.
Viewer and listener discretion advised me to hear this demon talk.
Let me do it in a Linda Blair voice, because you did it in a sexy voice yesterday.
dan friesen
Sexy.
unidentified
Oh, no.
No, no, no.
I'm going to get an abortion.
And it's not just because I'm killing a baby.
There's actually nerve centers in the back of the uterus that can't be stimulated through regular intercourse.
The only way to achieve that kind of orgasm is to visit a clinic.
And have my vagina speculated and scooped out at the bottom of the bed in Jerry's Pite of Mee Night.
It's dangerous, but liberating.
Likely adrenaline rush from base jumping or snapchatting nudes to a co-worker.
Now, if you go back, if you want me, the demon, to translate that for you.
It's like Ben and Jerry's pint of me night.
It's all about me when I kill that baby.
It's all about my power.
It's all about serving my master.
dan friesen
So, I think that that impression feels weirdly less sincere than his horny voice.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it felt a lot less sincere than his horny voice.
dan friesen
Weirdly also feels less sincere than his Northam impression.
jordan holmes
It does feel good.
dan friesen
It feels the most stilted, or at least the least natural.
jordan holmes
It's the one I have the least problem with.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, that might be what I'm responding to.
Feels...
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
All right.
So he's still covering the story, but he knows that there's a misconception within the story.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's not that it's completely made up and a fake story and just completely meant to fuck with people like him.
It's that this misconception is...
She thinks that she's coming when she gets an abortion.
But in reality, that's not true.
It's not true.
Someone else is coming.
unidentified
I'm a liberal.
I'm here to liberate.
Forget intercourse.
alex jones
It creates a new human life.
No.
unidentified
The intercourse we have with doctors and medical instruments and knives chopping up babies.
That's what makes...
Because see, the riddle is it's not the woman having the orgasm.
It's the little demon.
jordan holmes
Oh.
alex jones
Now, see, I stylized that with a little classical demon voice for you.
dan friesen
Classical.
alex jones
You know what these people?
They'll go, Mr. Jones, you're not a penis.
unidentified
The planet dies.
alex jones
You're like, whoa.
You're like, oh, yeah.
Well, you've seen all the videos we played.
It's real, folks.
It's evil.
They're demons.
Space junk.
jordan holmes
Space junk.
alex jones
Haters, haters of God, despiteful, proud boasters, inventors of evil things.
Disobedient to parents.
King James Version.
Romans 1.30.
dan friesen
Get him.
Get him, Alex.
Drop that scripture.
jordan holmes
I believe it was Mozart who mastered the classical demon voice.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Comparatively, Alex is a mere pultry recreation.
Look.
On the previous day, Alex, what he did with Anderson Cooper, there's nothing we're ever going to find, maybe not ever, I think he could do worse eventually, but there's nothing we're going to find on these shows that's going to be worse than that.
But this next clip is so weird.
So, Miley Cyrus put out some videos expressing his support for abortion and, you know, being on the side of being against these oppressive laws that are being passed.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Which, good for her.
jordan holmes
Strong stance.
dan friesen
And this is Alex's response to that, which, while not calling for violence towards her, is still violent.
unidentified
Miley Cyrus does eight new photos of her simulating oral sex with a woman, likening it to an abortion and the sexual plan.
alex jones
Pleasure therein.
Miley Cyrus, I predict, will die excruciating death of cancer over two years.
And sooner rather than later.
unidentified
Whoa!
alex jones
I bet Miley Cyrus is dead in ten years.
What?
And it's going to be very, very painful.
I feel sorry for her, but that's just the way God works.
Justice must be delivered.
dan friesen
I mean, we already heard him say that.
You know, if it's God's justice, sometimes you're the tool of justice.
So if you predict she's going to be dead in ten years, I mean, I don't know how one of his listeners is going to give her a painful cancer, but, I mean, that's fucked up.
Just sort of relishing and like, ah, she's going to die a painful death.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's just a weird thing to want.
dan friesen
You'd probably be totally fine with her if she was still Hannah Montana.
Yeah.
alex jones
So...
dan friesen
It's always interesting to sort of consider what Alex's intentions are.
Like, is he really trying to report facts?
Is he really trying to be a journalist?
And I think in this next clip you get a little bit of a glimpse into how he sees himself in the greater media sphere.
alex jones
They don't want you to recognize evil so that you won't stand up yourself when you lose everything.
I know you know that.
But we're not here covering evil so that everybody gets conditioned to it.
We're here to get people angry and awake about it and focused and in its face.
And we're winning, thanks to you.
dan friesen
So this is something that Alex has said for a long time in different sort of permutations, different ways of expressing it.
The idea of, like, I'm here to shake you awake.
I'm going to force a red pill down your throat.
This idea of, like, I'm here to get people angry.
jordan holmes
Galvanized.
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, like, what is that if the things you're making them angry about are lies?
What is that?
If the things you're making them angry about are specifically tailored towards protecting white identity.
Why are you making them angry?
What is the end result you wish to see?
If you're making people angry, lying about abortion, lying about the people at Drag Queen Storytime, saying that, hey, maybe God wants you to kill Anderson Cooper, what are you doing?
Making people angry is not waking them up out of their media delusion, their coma with the MSM.
What you're doing is...
Inspirational terrorism.
You're making people angry.
You're trying to rile them up to the point where they commit a crime.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That is what you're doing, Alex.
jordan holmes
You don't make people angry purposefully unless you are looking for an action.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's describing...
Here's what I'm doing.
I'm trying to instill an emotion into you.
But that emotion is only...
unidentified
It's only valuable if you...
jordan holmes
Channel it into an actual action.
And if you're making people angry about how their babies are getting murdered, then your actual intent is for the action that follows after that anger.
dan friesen
Bomb and abortion claim.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
But I think in previous times...
The action would have been, since so much of the rhetoric is pointed and punching upward towards either groups that don't exist, i.e.
the globalists, or the UN, or the Bush administration.
jordan holmes
Who are almost abstract.
dan friesen
The action that you wish for is a subscription to my magazine.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Buy my products.
The action is tailored towards that.
In the present day, what you see is the same...
of shaking people out of the coma, making them angry to get action.
But the action is dox people who are at the drag queen story time.
Yeah.
unidentified
Go and do honey traps where you, uh, manipulatively edit video in order to demonize somebody who's working for a social good.
dan friesen
Kill Anderson Cooper.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's what he's doing.
He's become a complete...
And there probably were elements of it before.
Maybe not as overt.
But what he's doing now is categorically inspirational terrorism.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
We used to mock the ad pivot for a long time, but now it's almost like mock the crime pivot.
You know?
Like, oh, and here he goes.
Pivoting into telling people to commit genocide again.
dan friesen
And it hasn't been as marked and as crazy as these two episodes were.
This is a different level of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is fucked up.
dan friesen
I mean, beyond...
Miley Cyrus is going to die a painful death.
That would have been in place.
You could see that any day.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
You go to the zoo, every day you're going to see some of the chimps.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You're going to see some of the monkeys in the monkey house.
No big deal.
You know, whatever.
Right.
But some days you go to the zoo, penguins are hiding.
jordan holmes
Goddamn penguins.
dan friesen
You're not guaranteed you're going to see those penguins.
And that's, the penguin is metaphoric, I'm losing it.
That's the metaphor for him saying kill Anderson Cooper.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
It doesn't happen every day.
jordan holmes
The penguin's always there, but you don't always see it.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's fair.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex talks about how people who support abortion are basically green-skinned demons, and then he plays that clip that he referenced of the video of a woman having an orgasm while getting an abortion, which he's using to justify covering that article, but it doesn't work.
alex jones
You go defend life, and Satan's army will show up.
And let me tell you, you don't want to be part of that army.
Their eyes are sunk in.
They always have green skin.
And folks, people have watched these videos and they go, they do have green skin.
The black people are whiter than white people.
They have green skin.
The white people have green skin.
It's so white, it's like that translucent day glow is what my dad calls those people.
It's just like you read in movies.
You see in movies, you're reading old books.
Old Greek literature and even scientific reports would say there are times when groups go crazy and the people get very white skin.
They get a green color when the spirit comes over them.
And so you can argue all day what it is, but let me tell you, this isn't just mental illness, folks.
They want to kill babies.
And it runs the gamut from women wanting to get on TV and talk about how great abortions are so other women feel comfortable to the actual devil worshippers.
But it's all the same spirit.
Here's some of it.
dan friesen
So he goes to a video of a woman getting an abortion.
She's holding hands with somebody who's off camera.
She has her eyes closed.
Is what Alex is trying to present as orgasmic joy.
When it's breathing through a medical procedure.
That is what's going on.
At the end of it, she gets wheeled away and they say, how do you feel?
And she says, it feels good.
Not saying feels good like I came.
jordan holmes
Feels good to be free of this whole thing and be gone from here.
Be done with the procedure.
dan friesen
So this is a woman who had made this video because she wanted to create or help people understand that not every abortion...
experience is traumatic.
Right.
unidentified
Wanted to uncouple those ideas and remove some of the stigma around it that people feel.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Which I think is a noble thing to do.
dan friesen
I think it's probably something that most people would choose not to do for the amount of bullshit that will get thrown your way.
Yeah.
It's something that takes a certain amount of courage.
jordan holmes
A remarkable amount of bravery, I would say.
dan friesen
And this is what you get for it.
You get Alex Jones saying you're orgasming and misrepresenting.
I don't know if her video had that fucking jaunty music in it.
But it's jarring.
It's real weird.
I think that Alex might have added it in in order to obscure what she's experiencing.
But either way, it's not orgasmic joy.
It's just completely misrepresenting that in service of this article.
And what that makes me think is that that article, he had to have read it before.
He had to have read it years ago.
It's been online for five years.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He had to have read it at some point, and it's colored his perceptions about people who get abortions.
And it's real sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I agree.
That seems like the only conclusion that you could draw.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we've got one last clip here, and what it is is Alex taking Christianity and repurposing it into fitting his worldview.
jordan holmes
Satan's worldview.
He is a devil worshiper.
dan friesen
That is an interesting way to look at it, because, I mean, Like, he's twisting scripture.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
You know who can quote scripture for his own purpose, Dan?
dan friesen
I've heard the devil can.
jordan holmes
He can!
dan friesen
And what's interesting here is Alex believes in vampires.
He believes that the globalists are vampires because he believes in the blood libel.
And because he does...
He has created a mythology around the ruling elites that exist now and have forever.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so what he's done is he's taken the Eucharist, the very central ritual of Christianity.
jordan holmes
No shit.
dan friesen
And he has repackaged it as an anti-vampire thing, which is crazy.
jordan holmes
It's an anti-vampire thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So we're past onions.
No garlic.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
We're right into only the flesh of Christ.
dan friesen
You're misunderstanding what I mean, but when you hear this, you'll get what I'm saying.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
God sent his son, his consciousness, into the fray, had all the knowledge, all the power to go through what we go through, to be fair, because God put us, his children, with free conscious will, into the universe.
The potential for a whole new universe is in each one of us.
Free will.
Only way a real God could be God is to make new creatures that could be potentially in the same line.
And what did Christ say at the Last Supper?
dan friesen
Was a...
jordan holmes
Hmm, nice.
alex jones
Take this bread as a symbol of my flesh.
It's going to be broken for you.
And take this wine as a symbol of my blood.
jordan holmes
Let's get fucked up!
alex jones
That binds us together.
What's the exact scripture?
Now, you're right.
You would say that's a vampiric ritual.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
But it's a ritual ending the vampire rituals.
It's a ritual saying you don't need kids, you don't need people, you don't need sacrifices at the temple anymore.
Vampirism was all over that area at that time.
All you need is spiritually to be with God.
And all you need is bread and wine.
You don't need to drink blood anymore.
unidentified
You don't need to drink blood anymore.
alex jones
Now...
Oh, you start to get the big picture, don't you, ladies and gentlemen?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
See, like I'm saying.
jordan holmes
Not even a little bit.
dan friesen
There is that whole thing like, now you get it.
Like he's revealing the truths of the universe.
jordan holmes
He confused me even more about transubstantiation.
dan friesen
So I'm agnostic by nature.
I don't really know if any of these mystical things are provable in any way, but if they are, I'm open to it.
I think that humanity...
Has the potential for a lot of experiences that we can't possibly explain.
And I'm open to all explanations.
I'm not one of these hard, atheist kind of people.
And I think it's more fun to go about life that way.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can't F the ineffable.
dan friesen
But that said, my absence of real...
jordan holmes
Ineffable, not ineffable.
unidentified
Yeah, continue.
dan friesen
The absence of my strong religious feeling...
Being stipulated.
I still think that's pretty offensive to religion.
The way that he's packaging and taking the Eucharist and the central ritual of Christianity and turning it into something that is satisfying of his personal crusade and his worldview that he's created about the globalists and vampires.
It's fucked up.
It's really, really deeply fucked up.
It's one thing to take, I don't know, John P. Holdren or Carol Quigley and misuse their words in order to reinforce your worldview.
It's a whole fucking other one to take the Q source, to take the Gospels and then repackage them for your weird...
Conspiracy theory worldview.
I mean, I guess a lot of people do it.
jordan holmes
I don't understand how that's any different from the prosperity gospel from...
dan friesen
It isn't that different.
jordan holmes
You know, from David Manning, from all of that shit.
dan friesen
I guess it's not that different, but...
jordan holmes
Jim Baker or Pat Robertson.
dan friesen
It is somehow different in the context of Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I know what you mean.
The people are misusing scripture for manipulative and profit motives.
People like Paula White Cain or Jim Baker.
jordan holmes
Yeah, she's the devil.
dan friesen
They are doing that for sure.
But there's something different about this that feels like a bigger page one rewrite.
It seems worse.
jordan holmes
See, I prefer him to Jim Baker or Paula White Cain in this regard.
dan friesen
Oh, I disagree.
jordan holmes
In terms of offense towards religion.
Because he's transparently full of shit that is nowhere near the Bible.
His esotericism is ridiculous on its face, and he doesn't really use that kind of ridiculous bullshit to sell.
You know, he's not, hey, buy the eight-pack and also make sure to take the Eucharist because otherwise you'll wind up drinking blood again.
dan friesen
But that's implied.
jordan holmes
That is a little implied.
But with Paula White Cain and Jim Baker and those guys, they're just close enough to take something that is meant to be, I mean, I suppose, helpful, and turn it into something that destroys far more people's lives.
dan friesen
It does.
It does.
From a financial perspective.
jordan holmes
Well, and also a spiritual perspective, if you actually believe in it.
dan friesen
A misguided hope perspective, perhaps.
The reason that I think that I single Alex out more as being worse...
Is because while he is co-opting these ideas from scripture and turning them into reinforcements of his own worldview...
Within a day before this, he was using his fucked up ideas about religion to justify the idea that you have free will and maybe you're one of God's tools of vengeance and people need to take demons.
Yeah, that's true.
jordan holmes
You know, I see it as...
The penguin's always there.
Maybe you don't see Jim Baker's penguin, but...
dan friesen
Maybe.
So, anyway, we come to the end of this episode, and I'm left with the bitterest taste in my mouth.
I told you at the beginning of this, and I hope that my feelings are validated a little bit, that that was one of the most fucked up couple days of his show that I've listened to.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was an orc-bortion.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That...
Life is crazy.
It's understandable, though.
He doesn't do any work.
It's embarrassing and hilarious that over two days he's reporting that story.
He doesn't know or doesn't care that it's totally fake.
Second, though, that violent streak that's through all of this.
Is deeply upsetting.
And it's one of the only times that I'm willing to directly say I think he should be punished.
Like, I really think...
jordan holmes
Yeah, that has to be illegal.
dan friesen
Yeah, what he was saying about Anderson Cooper, I legitimately think...
I don't know.
If any of you are a lawyer and you know the law, I would like to talk to you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
The Northam thing you could probably hide behind parody is, oh, Samurizer, nobody would take that seriously.
Except for Infowars, people probably do fucking have Samurizer.
dan friesen
Or the late-term abortion thing, too.
I think it falls under the heading of, like, it's fucked-up speech that I still think I would protect.
What he did with Anderson Cooper, I don't think that that is okay.
jordan holmes
No.
Absolutely not.
That is, you know, if you can't say fire in a crowded theater, etc., that is saying fire to a thousand people and meaning set fire to this theater.
dan friesen
Or shoot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Exactly.
dan friesen
That use of fire.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm very conflicted about it, and I am very uncomfortable with it, and I hate to see it.
And I just worry about what it pretends for the future.
Because it doesn't get better.
It doesn't de-escalate on its own accord.
As Alex has this Sandy Hook lawsuit proceeding.
I believe it's in early July.
He has his next deposition.
It's not like his pressure is going to get off him.
So anyway.
Memorial Day sale is ending.
Fuck!
Yeah.
So anyway, we'll be back next week.
Thanks to everybody for checking us out and enjoying the show.
We have a website, knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
We also are on Twitter.
dan friesen
Yep.
Knowledge underscore fight.
jordan holmes
And I'm at GoToBedJordan.
dan friesen
We are on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are.
We're on the iTunes and other podcast tool app duplications.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
And yeah, leave a review, subscribe, rate, all that BS and S. Please do.
So we'll be back.
But until then, I don't know.
I'm strongly suspecting that Alex killed his dog, but I don't think his dog ever killed anybody.
jordan holmes
I don't think Nock would never hurt a soul, Dan.
How dare you?
dan friesen
I don't think any of Alex's dogs have killed a person.
jordan holmes
Nock only ate dry food.
dan friesen
But one person who has technically probably killed somebody is Alex Jones.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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