Today, Dan and Jordan take a little break from talking about Alex Jones to dip their toes into the murky waters of Stefan Molyneux, specifically a mini-documentary he released in December 2018 about going to Poland. Documentary might be the wrong word.
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| Hey everybody, Dan here. | ||
| I just wanted to say hello and give you all a little bit of an intro for this episode because there's some things that may seem a little bit confusing, largely based on the fact that Jordan and I recorded this episode a couple weeks back. | ||
| So there's some things that may sound a little bit dated. | ||
| Like, for instance, at the beginning of the episode, I say that I just signed a lease, when at the point that we are now, as this episode comes out, I've already moved into this new apartment. | ||
| And also, Jordan makes reference to the idea that we just recorded an emotionally draining episode, and now I have foisted this episode that you're about to listen to upon him. | ||
| And that is because we recorded this right after we recorded the episode that came out where we talked about Alex Jones'coverage of the Christchurch shooting in New Zealand. | ||
| And so he is still reeling from that a little bit as we jump into this episode. | ||
| For a long time now, I've been getting messages from listeners who reached out and expressed that they would like for us to cover Stefan Molyneux. | ||
| They'd like us to take a look at him and give our thoughts. | ||
| And I've watched a number of his videos, and most of the time I don't... | ||
| Find them to be something I really have much interest in covering. | ||
| I think a lot of people who do shows that are slightly different focused than us have done some great pointing out of things that are wrong with his world. | ||
| There's a lot of coverage you can find of that sort of stuff. | ||
| But I did think that there was one thing that did speak to me and I thought that it would be something that was worth our time. | ||
| And that is the episode you're going to hear here. | ||
| There was a part of me that felt that this would be the beginning of a longer series about him, and that may be forthcoming in the future at some point. | ||
| It's an open question at this point, but for now we have this episode here that I hope you enjoy. | ||
| And we will see you back on Friday with who knows what. | ||
| It could be anything. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Alex, I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| When was the last time you signed a lease, Dan? | ||
| Just today. | ||
| Just today. | ||
| Got it all taken care of. | ||
| I'd like to thank everyone for their thoughts and prayers and concerns over these trying last few weeks. | ||
| Have been a real hassle, but yeah, I actually got all that taken care of. | ||
| I will be moving now. | ||
| Congratulations, Dan. | ||
| So now it's just the stress of the actual process of moving, but that's certainly something that I can make it through. | ||
| I've done it a hundred times in my life. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| And the excitement of setting up the new place and our recording space in it and having an actual bedroom because I'll be in one bedroom as opposed to a studio that I've lived in. | ||
| That's sort of kind of living for the last, I don't know, over a decade. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| It'll be very interesting to sort of have a new kind of space. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Experience, and I'm excited for that. | ||
| You know what I just realized? | ||
| I don't know your address. | ||
| Go ahead and tell it to me right now. | ||
| Can't do that. | ||
| No, you can't do it. | ||
| No, but, like, right now. | ||
| No. | ||
| There's a what? | ||
| I will say this. | ||
| I'm not going to tell anyone my address, but in a very interesting turn of events, I have lived in this building before. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm moving back into a building I used to live in. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But I did like the building. | ||
| Everything was nice about it. | ||
| The only thing that sucks is a terrible laundry room. | ||
| Terrible laundry room. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| There's a coin-op laundry not too far away. | ||
| Everything is golden. | ||
| Ah, man. | ||
| I hate a coin-op laundry. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I hate them. | ||
| I don't hate it. | ||
| I hate a laundromat. | ||
| I like it a lot because they have the quarter machines there, which is big. | ||
| I don't have to plan ahead of time and go to the fucking grocery store, the customer service area, to get a roll of quarters. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Plan so far ahead. | ||
| Then on top of that, you know, you can just sit and read. | ||
| It's nice. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I just don't like them, Dan. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| When I moved in with my girlfriend. | ||
| In-unit laundry. | ||
| First time in my life, Dan, it has been a goddamn... | ||
| You have no idea how beautiful an in-op laundry unit is. | ||
| There was one apartment that I had sort of looked at that had in-unit laundry. | ||
| And I was like, this seems unessential. | ||
| I don't like the rest of this apartment. | ||
| And honestly, I think that the washer and dryer take too much space up. | ||
| Oh, you're so wrong! | ||
| It's worth it! | ||
| It might be worth it, but, you know, when that is like a variable that limits other parts of the apartment, I think that I can very much leave. | ||
| I can respect that. | ||
| Something that I can respect is the very generous support of our listeners. | ||
| People who have signed up and are supporting what we do. | ||
| We really appreciate it. | ||
| So now it has come time for us to give a shout-out to some new donors. | ||
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
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| You are now a technocrat. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
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Someone, someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop. | |
| Daddy Sharp. | ||
| Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
| He's a loser little, little titty baby. | ||
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I don't want to hate black people. | |
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| Thank you so much, Brian. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Especially because my rent is going up. | ||
| And I do not have a job. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Life is good. | ||
| I just had this weird thought of us being the worst human beings in the world, and instead of giving shout-outs to people who do, don't. | ||
| We just find somebody who stopped donating and we're like, hey, guess who's no longer a policy walk? | ||
| I could never imagine doing that sort of shitty. | ||
| That would be a fucking horrific thing to do. | ||
| Or just anybody who we like, we have a good idea that you listen to our show and you're not paying us. | ||
| Go fuck yourself. | ||
| Oh, just somebody who's not about, like, we just randomly see if somebody has left a review and we're like, ah, I don't think. | ||
| Or I search IP addresses of people who have downloaded and I'm like, alright, I'm making a list. | ||
| Alright, there we go. | ||
| Alright. | ||
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How fucking awful would that be? | |
| Terrible. | ||
| It's like the NPR drive, except for evil. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we'll be taking a look at Stefan Molyneux. | ||
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Oh! | |
| A little bit of an intro to looking at this pile of garbage. | ||
| Right, so our last episode was a huge downer, and now we're really bringing up the wackiness. | ||
| Sure, it is Wacky Wednesday. | ||
| We're really going to make this a light, breezy episode with no evil, evil monsters at all, right? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Really struggled with what to do about this. | ||
| Because we've gotten a lot of requests from people to like, hey, you guys should cover Stefan Molyneux. | ||
| It's not like I don't know who he is. | ||
| He's been on Infowars a ton of times. | ||
| I'm aware of that part of the internet where he lives and thrives. | ||
| How do you solve a problem like Molyneux? | ||
| Right, absolutely. | ||
| One of the biggest problems is that there's so much to talk about about him. | ||
| That's one of the things that kind of works in his favor is that anybody who wants to be like, all right, here's the problem with this guy. | ||
| Smash cut to eight hours later. | ||
| You still haven't really demonstrated the totality of what makes his show and what he does so incredibly dangerous. | ||
| To be honest, I do not know anything about. | ||
| I've seen people screenshot his tweets or something, and it's like... | ||
| A lot of race IQ stuff lately, for sure. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What I see is just some asshole who's trying to be provocative and be like, hey, look at me. | ||
| I'm not trying to say this. | ||
| This is just the truth. | ||
| Open your eyes, man. | ||
| There is a little bit of that going on with him. | ||
| And unfortunately, some of the more robust pieces of criticism that I have for him will have to wait. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Because some of that is just outside of the scope of what I can manage today. | ||
| But as we begin, I can give you a little bit of information about him. | ||
| Number one. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I'm out. | ||
| That's all right. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's all you got? | ||
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Okay. | |
| Fair enough. | ||
| Fair enough! | ||
| So right off the bat, there's a ton going on when you take a bit of a closer beneath-the-surface look at Stefan Molyneux, far beyond what we could hope to cover in a single episode of this show. | ||
| In reality, it would be hard to cover him outside of the framework of an in-depth, weeks-long series, and I'm hesitant to do that because I fear that some of the episodes would be meaningful but dreadfully boring. | ||
| For a long time, I've resisted covering Stefan Molyneux because of stories I've heard that he's super litigious and really into suing people who use his content. | ||
| I've sat with that feeling, and after considering what our show is and what we stand for, I'm not willing to let the fear of that possibility stop me from covering someone I see as a dangerous pillar in the white supremacist media. | ||
| Smash cut to eight months later. | ||
| We're getting to it. | ||
| I've reviewed relevant fair use laws, and everything that we use of Stefan's on this episode and any other will be for the explicit purpose of criticizing and providing commentary, so I know that we're in the clear. | ||
| We're on very solid footing. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| What compelled me to make this change in my position about sort of being hesitant to cover him to being like, we gotta do this, is that in December 2018, he released a mini-documentary that should scare the shit out of any right-thinking person. | ||
| We'll get to that documentary, but first we need to get to know Stefan a little bit, because you don't know anything about him. | ||
| I don't know anything about Stefan. | ||
| Stefan Molyneux is a self-described philosopher who disseminates his pedantic and nonsensical messages through a YouTube channel and his internet radio show, Free Domain Radio. | ||
| Okay, so I don't know Stefan, but I know Stefan. | ||
| You might have met him before. | ||
| I've met a Stefan before. | ||
| First of all, Molyneux isn't really an expert in philosophy. | ||
| He has a bachelor's degree in history from McGill University and a master's in history from the University of Toronto, but no degrees in philosophy. | ||
| I guess he could have been a philosophy minor, but so was I. You don't see me doing a six-part series on philosophy 101 shit like the trial Dan, Dan, everybody... | ||
| Look, Dan, do you think the original philosophers went to school for philosophy? | ||
| I mean, like the Academy? | ||
| No, not those people. | ||
| The original, original philosophers, you know? | ||
| You know, like, Lao Tzu? | ||
| He didn't go to philosophy school. | ||
| It was easier back then. | ||
| It was easier back then. | ||
| People hadn't said a lot of those really basic things. | ||
| There was less philosophy already laying around. | ||
| Not to impugn the early philosophers, but they had a lot of fruit that was on the vine, ready to be picked. | ||
| So, I'll say... | ||
| And one of the important things about philosophy education is the history of these ideas and stuff like that. | ||
| And that history didn't exist back when the early philosophers were there. | ||
| So a big part of what you needed to learn about the tradition of philosophy and that stuff didn't exist. | ||
| So there's a real trend in his work that's a very trivial thing compared to some of his more dangerous ideas. | ||
| But it's something that lives in the background of all of them as well. | ||
| And that is that Stefan Molyneux is a lazy and bad philosopher. | ||
| He uses words that sound smart to dumb people, but if you spend any time parsing out how he attempts to use inference to make arguments or diagram his sentences, you see clearly that he doesn't know how the basic tenets of logic work, and without logic, philosophy is just a bunch of dumb talking. | ||
| Throughout his high school and collegiate career, Stefan Molyneux was a member of debate clubs and teams, which should come as a surprise to no one. | ||
| I've said it once and I will say it again. | ||
| The only people who stay on debate teams are pathological overachievers destined to be valedictorian and deranged psychopaths who feel that they can train themselves to use language as a weapon. | ||
| I would not be surprised to learn that Stefan Molyneux was not his school's valedictorian. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I hate... | ||
| Painting people who can literally debate me with such a broad brush, but I think you're probably right. | ||
| I was in a debate club for a while. | ||
| I left. | ||
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Because you got the temperature of the room. | |
| Yeah, like, ooh, gotta go. | ||
| I'm not going to get over without logic philosophy is just dumb talking. | ||
| That is a fucking great line. | ||
| I mean, look, I don't want to say that everybody who enjoys debate club and stuff like that is, you know, they're all the same person. | ||
| But it is one of the biases that I've had in my, like sort of my stereotypes that I've had for my entire life, and I have never been wrong. | ||
| Anytime I've met somebody who's like, oh, I love debate club. | ||
| Saw that coming. | ||
| Here we fucking go. | ||
| So Stefan and his brother founded a tech company called Caribou Systems in 1995, going on to sell the business off in 2000. | ||
| A listener of his show has written on one of his private podcasts, because he puts up stuff behind paywalls and stuff like that that are difficult to access. | ||
| But on one of those episodes, Molyneux said that he received $800,000 from his share of the business. | ||
| It took 18 months off work to write a book. | ||
| This may have been his book, Revolutions, which was self-published on December 9, 2002. | ||
| And I would have grabbed a copy of that to read so I could tell you more about it, but currently on Amazon, you can only buy a used copy for $1,099. | ||
| So I'm going to have to pass. | ||
| You can find first editions of, like, Emily Dickinson that are cheaper than that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I feel like those would be more. | ||
| All right, fair enough. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Stefan has self-published a number of books over the years, the titles like The Gods of Atheists, The Art of the Argument, Western Civilization's Last Stand, and On Truth. | ||
| I am annoyed! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I am already annoyed at him! | ||
| I would assume that Stefan would say that he self-publishes because HarperCollins and Penguin Books are run by dirty collectivists who are afraid of his ideas. | ||
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Of course. | |
| But I would suggest it's equally possible that he's afraid of editors' notes and the inevitable rejection letters that would come from him trying to actually get anyone to publish his shit. | ||
| The number of literary agents who have sent me rejection letters is daunting. | ||
| And it can be discouraging. | ||
| It can hurt your process. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So, whatever the case with all that is, in 2005, Molyneux began Free Domain Radio as a podcast that since has grown into a full-fledged internet community. | ||
| He has books, videos, podcasts, podcasts behind paywalls, and a robust message board where his followers aid in the initiation process of new recruits. | ||
| Many of the accounts that I've been able to find of people who have left Free Domain Radio feature the same point. | ||
| Somewhere along the line, something changed. | ||
| When it began, it wasn't very cultish. | ||
| It was just kind of a libertarian, anarcho-capitalist show and discussion group. | ||
| But it changed. | ||
| And members of the community who experienced it have pointed largely to Stefan Molyneux's refusal to accept criticism, his narcissism, which only seemed to grow as the show got more popular, and his clear projection about emotional issues and relationships as the main driver of that change. | ||
| That doesn't sound like any cult leader I've ever heard of. | ||
| Now, I need to tell you about this documentary. | ||
| In late 2018, Stefan Molyneux released a documentary called The Hundred Year March, A Philosopher in Poland, where he ostensibly goes on a fact-finding mission to Poland to experience their country's 100th anniversary parade. | ||
| What he actually does is something quite different, and that is what we will experience here today. | ||
| Okay, now, that premise for a documentary seems kind of fun and joyful. | ||
| It seems like you would go there and you would see a nation celebrate its 100th year and they would all get together and people would share stories and it would be a positive way of viewing a country. | ||
| You know, sure. | ||
| We've done a lot of bad shit. | ||
| We're a nation. | ||
| Nations do bad shit. | ||
| That happens. | ||
| But at the end of the day, we're all the same people. | ||
| I'm guessing there's probably a little bit of that that he experienced, but this documentary, like, taken as a whole, is profoundly fucked up. | ||
| It is not about going to a march. | ||
| It's about cruel indoctrination and absolutely, like... | ||
| Clear demonstration of a man coming to terms with being a white nationalist. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| That's what we're going to experience. | ||
| It's more like the 100th year anniversary of the Third Reich if the Germans had won. | ||
| So here's how we start the documentary, where Stefan is walking around in the woods, a snowy wood, walking around in the snow, giving out sort of the premise of what he's expecting to learn about. | ||
| The diversity of Europe, the true diversity of Europe, has always fascinated me. | ||
| I have a pan-European family history from Ireland to England to Germany, but my first name is actually Polish. | ||
| It's spelt in the Polish fashion. | ||
| And my family history bleeds eastward from Germany across to Poland. | ||
| And I find Poland incredibly fascinating. | ||
| My notebooks are full of so many questions and I feel like I almost can't rest, I can't sleep until I get some answers. | ||
| How is Poland able to preserve its culture and its religiosity and its history so passionately and so powerfully? | ||
| Why is it constantly referred to in the mainstream media press as xenophobic, as far-right as you name it, ultra-nationalistic or some awful phrase? | ||
| Is any of this true? | ||
| I suspect that it's not. | ||
| But I'm an empiricist. | ||
| I always It is all true. | ||
| Oh boy! | ||
| Oh boy! | ||
| I, I, oh, listening to that, that's the longest sentence I've ever heard Stephen Molyneux say, and I totally get it. | ||
| Because every part of that is a red flag, but he says it in such a cheery and chipper way, he's like, I'm excited to learn! | ||
| And you're like, yeah, but all the stuff you just said makes me think that when you say the true diversity of Europe... | ||
| Is the lack of diversity. | ||
| You don't... | ||
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Right, right. | |
| I'm from pan-European nations. | ||
| I'm both German and Polish. | ||
| All right, now that's... | ||
| You're kind of not getting there. | ||
| Right, and you kind of also come to the idea... | ||
| Like, I think you can tell right off the bat, even just by listening to just that introductory passage, that when he comes to the end there, he's like, everybody says that they're xenophobic, hard-right, ultra-nationalist. | ||
| I suspect that isn't true. | ||
| The documentary itself, you already know good and goddamn well. | ||
| He's not going to debunk those things. | ||
| He's going to make peace with those things. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| That's the journey he's going on. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's like, oh, wait. | ||
| I love those things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A lot of people are saying that it's hyper-nationalist and xenophobic and very white nationalist. | ||
| But you know what I say? | ||
| That's probably good. | ||
| Have you considered it? | ||
| Maybe you should try it. | ||
| We'll get through some of the dynamics and all the stuff that's really at play here as we go along. | ||
| But I think one of the major reasons that he feels this way is that when he went to Poland, no one yelled at him. | ||
| Like they generally do in his daily life. | ||
| They accept me! | ||
| They love me! | ||
| And I bet it's totally not because I'm white and look like them! | ||
| Here is him discussing that just a couple minutes. | ||
| Eh, not even a couple minutes. | ||
| Just a little bit after that last clip. | ||
| Here's something else we did, which I'm telling you, my friends, would be impossible to do any other place that I've ever spoken. | ||
| And that is, we put out a request for anybody who wanted to come by and chat. | ||
| On social media, open to the world, couldn't have done this in Canada, couldn't have done this in America or Australia, New Zealand, other places that I've talked. | ||
| So, he's put out the call that anyone can come to his meetup that he's doing. | ||
| He's having an exchange of ideas. | ||
| Nice little town hall. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| And he's like, I couldn't do that anywhere else, but it's totally cool here. | ||
| And it's like, yeah, okay, sure. | ||
| You could, like, maybe a bad example, a bad parallel, but like... | ||
| You can say the N-word at a Klan meeting and no one's going to yell at you. | ||
| You understand? | ||
| That's true. | ||
| In different circumstances, you can do different things that are unacceptable in other places. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Being a xenophobic, hard-right, ultra-nationalist guy like Stefan Molyneux is, you get yelled at in other places where people... | ||
| Hate those ideas. | ||
| I can see his main appeal, I think, is he is polishing turds. | ||
| I believe that's his main goal in life, right? | ||
| Because he put that so lovely. | ||
| Here, unlike anywhere else, I can have a town hall and share ideas with people. | ||
| And you're like... | ||
| Oh, well, it's good to share ideas, but, you know, you can have a town hall and share ideas in America. | ||
| What is it about Poland that makes you think this? | ||
| Maybe we're going to find out something different. | ||
| And what are those ideas you want to share? | ||
| That is a good question. | ||
| What are those ideas? | ||
| Are they different races? | ||
| Are they variable in quality of personhood? | ||
| Because that's going to get some pushback from people in most places. | ||
| So Stefan Molyneux puts out the address online for this meetup. | ||
| And in this next clip, he describes where he goes. | ||
| And they show some footage of him going for this meetup. | ||
| And it's at a bar that he describes. | ||
| and we'll discuss on the other side of this clip. | ||
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Everybody has been incredibly welcoming, incredibly friendly. | |
| And that is an amazing thing because the view from outside Poland, there are these, you know, these terrible international lies about Poland, you know, xenophobic and terrified and frightened and angry and fascist and so on, right? | ||
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None of this is true, or if it's true, the nicest, friendliest fascist I think. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Dare I say it, fascism with a human face. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| So the bar that Stefan Molyneux goes to, the only way he describes it is a place where this guy, they had an idea of a bar where people could have, you know, revolutionary ideas could be discussed. | ||
| People who are, you know, just left or they're just right of center. | ||
| You know, they're just objectivists. | ||
| People like that could come together and have these ideas. | ||
| And the great thing about it is it's in the basement of the former communist headquarters in Poland. | ||
| Oh, isn't that reclaiming our space? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So in reality... | ||
| The bar that Stefan is giving a speech at is a place called the Freedom Lounge. | ||
| Oh, I thought it was called Whites, Whites, Whites Only. | ||
| No, a press release from December 27, 2017, describes it as, quote, the first right-wing formation center in Warsaw. | ||
| The idea from the people who founded it is clearly as a place to organize right-wing politics, not as a place for the fun and free exchange of ideas. | ||
| Someone might argue that this constitutes a safe space for those aspiring fascists, what they need, so they can talk about their shit without fear of someone calling them accurate names. | ||
| But whatever. | ||
| I'm more concerned about the fact that the founders of this lounge are very upfront about being a right-wing formation center, but Stefan Molyneux still insists on hiding behind descriptions like, this is a place where rationalists, objectivists, people just a little right of center can come to discuss ideas. | ||
| Oh, also, if you look at it, you find that the Freedom Bar wasn't opened by some freedom-and-discussion-loving Polish patriot. | ||
| It was funded entirely by the Warsaw Enterprise Institute, a think tank which lists demography, As one of its primary areas of interest. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| From the Warsaw Enterprise Institute's webpage, quote, The Warsaw Enterprise Institute opened the Freedom Lounge. | ||
| It was created with conservative and free market youth in mind, a place where youth organizations will be able to organize their events free of charge, use the in-house television studio to develop their professional careers, as well as for socializing and entertainment purposes. | ||
| The Freedom Lounge is part of a strategy being employed by the WEI to facilitate propaganda and social recruitment towards hard right ideas. | ||
| This isn't some cool coffeehouse scene full of revolutionary thinkers. | ||
| It's a well-funded, hard-right think tank-created space where fascism can fester. | ||
| Which, when you think about it, is exactly the kind of place where Stefan Molyneux would like to give a speech at. | ||
| Explain to me how what he said then makes sense. | ||
| Like, at the beginning, whenever he's like... | ||
| Oh, you know, these people are described as xenophobic, hard-right, and fascist, and they've been nothing but kind to me. | ||
| Well, it's fascism with a human face, which you can read that code. | ||
| Right, but someone who looks like them is genetically from that area and hates as many people as they do as well. | ||
| That is a meaningless sentiment. | ||
| Unless you are a person of color or something along those lines coming into a place where you would be treated xenophobically as opposed to a white dude with a fascist face. | ||
| I make no mistake about it. | ||
| Everyone in that bar is white. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| Everyone in this entire documentary is white. | ||
| Not concerned. | ||
| That was asked and answered the moment I read one of Stefan Molyneux's tweets. | ||
| Heavily implied that you're not going to see a lot of different folk. | ||
| Would be shocked if he's met a black person that he, you know... | ||
| So he gives this speech at this WEI-funded, organized, and run far-right, right-wing politics formation center in Warsaw, and he's passing it off as this, like, cool fucking awesome place where just, like, really cool kids who like free market get together and talk shop. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So that's great. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Can you point me to any cool kid who likes discussing the free market? | ||
| I'm sure one exists, but I have no idea. | ||
| I don't think anybody's riding up in a motorcycle in a leather jacket, 17 years old, like, hey, man, do you understand how trickle-down economics actually works? | ||
| Keynesian economics is a lie. | ||
| Let's get on out of here. | ||
| Leader of the pack. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I'm sure someone exists in that mold, but it's kind of comical to imagine them. | ||
| Rebel with a free market cause, I believe, was the original working title of the movie. | ||
| Or you go back to Civil War type ideas. | ||
| Rebel with a lost cause narrative that he wants to put into the world. | ||
| So he gives this speech, and what a shock. | ||
| Here is his response to it afterwards. | ||
| He's just so amazed that it went so well. | ||
| We were in a glass-enclosed area facing the street, talking about radical, powerful, philosophical ideas for hours, with no fear of crazy people who want to shoot us, or bricks coming through the window, or bomb threats emptying the building, or all the other things that have happened other places that I've gone to speak. | ||
| That's an amazing experience. | ||
| Also, we talked about ideas all night without anyone... | ||
| Crying racist or sexist or cisgendered scum or heteronormal or all of the other refuse and garbage that clouds intellectual discussions in the West and reduces us to identity politics-obsessed ashes of our former selves. | ||
| It was wonderful to have that. | ||
| So wonderful. | ||
| You have a look on your face of just stupefied wonder. | ||
| I really don't like in the... | ||
| Dan, you're mean. | ||
| Because... | ||
| There's no way that it... | ||
| Because, look, immediately following this fucking New Zealand terror attack, we have some assholes being like, no fear of crazy people who might send bomb threats or other shit. | ||
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And I'm like, that's because they look like you and think the same shit you do! | |
| Well, of course. | ||
| And it's the same shit that motivates the people who throw bombs with minorities and shoot them. | ||
| Of course you don't get fucking... | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I went to this meeting and there were zero burning crosses on it and it was so surprising to me. | ||
| Well, like, the reality... | ||
| The reality is that what he's probably actually talking about is less like bomb threats and actually him fearing for his safety. | ||
| He's really more talking about when I give speeches, they get disrupted. | ||
| Like if I were to go to some college campus in the United States and try and give a speech, I would get that Milo treatment. | ||
| I would get people who were like... | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
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No one says that you're racist or a cisgendered male. | |
| And that's because everyone there is racist and a cisgendered male. | ||
| I mean, not everybody, but they exist inside a system where those concerns aren't concerns for them. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| They keep all that shit either out or repressed to a level where it never... | ||
| The conversation about those human rights just doesn't come up. | ||
| So, in this next clip, he discusses meeting someone at this bar. | ||
| This is the only place where I'm going to make a leap of logic that is maybe irresponsible, but I think I know who it is. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure, but I think I know who it is. | ||
| If you were making a leap of faith, I would say it was Ezio Auditore from Assassin's Creed. | ||
| It is not. | ||
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It's not. | |
| Well, at least not based on my suspicion. | ||
| Okay, fair enough. | ||
| But here is that clip. | ||
| I met a man in the Freedom Bar who had an in to the man who was organizing the entire 100-year Freedom March. | ||
| Now, they were facing some incredible opposition. | ||
| It was actually shortly after I landed that we found out that the mayor of Warsaw had canceled the entire march, had banned the entire march, and they were engaged in a significant legal battle and a culture battle and a media battle to try and get the march back on. | ||
| So he meets this guy at the Freedom Bar. | ||
| Who is trying to get this march going because it was cancelled by the mayor of Warsaw, which we'll get into in a little bit. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's a big first question. | ||
| Before you end any... | ||
| Before you're like, and there's been a long culture battle and legal battle, you should first be like, the mayor of Warsaw cancelled the march. | ||
| Here is why the mayor of Warsaw cancelled the march. | ||
| He doesn't want to talk about that. | ||
| You can't just skip over that part. | ||
| Oh, but we'll talk about it in great detail later. | ||
| I imagine so. | ||
| But for now, we have to jump to who I think he's talking about. | ||
| Because he's one of the only other people who's interviewed in this documentary than the main focus of it, who's the politician who's trying to get the march going. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| This in-between, I believe, is this guy, whose name is Lucas Warchica. | ||
| And here is a little bit of his interview that Stefan has. | ||
| Liberal here would mean more free market. | ||
| In America it means more lefty. | ||
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Yes, but I mean the Polish sense, the European sense of the word, liberal as economic liberal. | |
| It's like an insult in Poland because people have in mind not the period of collectivism during the People's Republic of Poland. | ||
| They have in mind the whole period between, let's say, 1993 and 2015 when they say these were there. | ||
| These were thieves who ruled. | ||
| So remember that 2015 date, because I think that's important. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So I suspect that this is who is the person who is the in-between that connects Stefan Molyneux with the guy who we'll talk about in the next clip. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| This guy, whether or not he is the person who was the in-between, kind of irrelevant. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This guy is named Lucas Warcheca. | ||
| If you Google him, you'll find that he's a very accomplished photographer, which is great, but doesn't really explain his involvement in this documentary. | ||
| To understand that, you have to go past the first page of search results. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| That's tough to do. | ||
| If you do, you find a really crazy coincidence that Lucas Warcheca is one of the primary writers for the Warsaw Enterprise Institute, the people who built the Freedom Bar that Stefan Molyneux gave a speech at earlier. | ||
| On January 1, 2019, Wojciechka published a column decrying how teaching children in school about hate speech and its consequences amounted to liberal indoctrination of school kids. | ||
| He discusses a textbook passage about a pyramid that's in the textbook that describes different levels of hate. | ||
| Quote, The lowest floor of the pyramid is verbal lack of acceptance, which is absurd in itself. | ||
| Are we obliged to approve of everything we do not like, even verbally? | ||
| It looks like it, because this layer we see exclusion language. | ||
| Parentheses. | ||
| Out-of-focus category. | ||
| Arbitrarily interpreted by the left. | ||
| Spreading myths, stereotypes, and rumors. | ||
| Parenthetically, we can't even gossip? | ||
| And even making malicious jokes. | ||
| According to Allport's scheme, as shown in that picture, all of these behaviors lead to violence at the end, while the top of the pyramid is extermination. | ||
| So, to put in a nutshell, maliciously joking with a friend, I'm aiming for his extermination. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's making a... | ||
| That's a dumb, dumb... | ||
| Dumb, dumb, dumb argument. | ||
| Are all of your pictures of disembodied hoods... | ||
| Well, I mean, he's making this same sort of culture battle argument that we hear from Alex Jones all the time. | ||
| This idea of making younger people aware of the consequences of their actions, that sort of thing, is tantamount to indoctrinating them to be all about the degeneracies of society. | ||
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What? | |
| Now I can't even tell somebody to their face that I don't like them because they're gay? | ||
| What? | ||
| So, Lucas wrote a piece skeptical about vaccines on October 7th, 2018. | ||
| On August 19th, 2018, he wrote a piece dismissive of the dangers of drunk driving. | ||
| It just goes on and on. | ||
| You start to see the picture coming into shape here. | ||
| There's the beginning of a pretty solid picture. | ||
| Dismissive of the dangers of drunk driving? | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's a hot take. | ||
| Well, the think tank probably accepts money from the alcohol industry. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| That's very common. | ||
| You see that sort of argument being made by people who take alcohol industry money in America. | ||
| Right. | ||
| These same sorts of arguments permeate. | ||
| The Warsaw Enterprise Institute is an organization that is incredibly hard right, and their fingerprints are all over this documentary. | ||
| The fact that at no point does Stefan Molyneux ever call out their involvement, or the fact that they keep popping up all over the place... | ||
| It sounds like that. | ||
| That's kind of a main feeling that I have here. | ||
| The idea that this bar that he's lionizing as the place where we can have this free conversation is entirely funded by them and run by them as a right wing formation center. | ||
| One of the very few people he interviews who's a photographer outside of him being a pundit for the Warsaw Enterprise Institute is just a photographer. | ||
| I don't know why he's in the documentary unless there's some sort of a connection. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it gets worse. | ||
| It seems like if you're going to this bar, which you hail as this wonderful place, you might want to give people a little bit of history about who started that bar. | ||
| Who's funding that bar? | ||
| The people that we can thank for that bar's existence. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Like, have you ever gone to a cool bar? | ||
| You know, you've been to so many cool bars in the college town. | ||
| You know, we were in Austin. | ||
| We went to some cool bars there, and any time we asked people about it, they'd be like, yeah, this was started by this guy, and it's got a long history. | ||
| There's no point would anybody just be like, yeah, it's a cool place for people to hang out. | ||
| If your perception of it is that this is a heroic, important, free speech wonder, the ninth wonder of the world here in Warsaw, then it would behoove, or not behoove you really, but like, it wouldn't be an ugly thing to just say like... | ||
| And thank God the Warsaw Enterprise Institute paid for this to exist. | ||
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Right. | |
| Wouldn't you be excited to tell people? | ||
| Because they're good in your world. | ||
| Look at how excited would you be to tell people about how they created this wondrous place? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because they are nothing but heroes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To the narrative that you're putting forth, unless you recognize on some level, Stefan, that recognizing how they're all over this documentary. | ||
| Would make most right-thinking people think, oh, this was funded by the WEI. | ||
| This is propaganda. | ||
| This is 100% paid propaganda. | ||
| I went to the Prager University. | ||
| Ha ha, okay, now we're done. | ||
| Goodbye. | ||
| You can stop right there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I don't know if that Lucas Warcheca is the guy who connected Stefan with this guy he's going to talk to who's trying to get the march running in earnest. | ||
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| But in this next clip, we do meet that guy. | ||
| And... | ||
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This is the map of Warsaw, and we start the march here. | |
| We go this street through the center of Warsaw, through the bridge, and we finish the march close to National Stadium. | ||
| So he's giving Stefan sort of the lay of the land of what this march is going to be about, and that's all good and well. | ||
| First we march southwest, and then southeast, and then northeast, and then northwest, and then we go back down southeast, and then southwest, and then go back over northwest, and then southwest, and then we march back up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then back down southeast, and then go back down one more time straight south, and one more time straight east. | ||
| How long you can do this? | ||
| I'm pretty much... | ||
| I think if you diagram it out, you know what I got. | ||
| So this is the voice of Krzysztof Bosak. | ||
| He's pretty much the primary interview subject for this documentary. | ||
| He's credited as the organizer of Poland's 100-year anniversary march. | ||
| Although, interestingly, whoever edited the film misspelled organizer as O-R-G-N-I-S-E-R, which is a pretty easy and pretty simple fuck-up for someone to make, especially if they talk about IQ all the time, like Stefan Molyneux does, misspelling fucking organizer. | ||
| He's organizer than you. | ||
| The more important thing here is that Kristoff is not just the organizer of the march, he's also a far-right politician who's only gotten more right-wing as his career has gone on. | ||
| He's currently a member of the National Movement Party, the party that only came into existence in 2013 and has been a force of hyper-nationalism and xenophobia ever since, with a little dash of LGBT folk don't deserve rights thrown in for good measure. | ||
| Sure, you gotta toss that in. | ||
| Yeah, to taste. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Though the party is technically only six years old at this point, The Independent has reported that they trace their roots to, quote, anti-Semitic groups active before World War II. | ||
| They aren't a wildly successful party from an electoral standpoint, but they are very relevant in terms of how they've played a role in shifting Poland's politics to the extreme right in recent years, along with a couple of other parties that are affiliated with them, who surprisingly, or not surprisingly, are also involved in organizing this march. | ||
| So we trace our history back to anti-Semitism before World War II. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's not a ringing endorsement? | ||
| I believe we'll get a little bit more into that a little bit later in the episode. | ||
| I definitely wouldn't call that a credit. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think he in an interview would say that. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| But I think that it's known, and they do talk about it. | ||
| And that critical coverage of him might point that out. | ||
| But he's a leading politician in the National Movement Party that has deeply anti-Semitic roots. | ||
| That's not how I'd want to be brought up on a comedy show, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| You don't want that to be in your intro? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| And coming up to the stage, tracing his lineage all the way back to anti-Semites from before World War II. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Jordan. | ||
| No, thank you. | ||
| He was into anti-Semitism before it was really uncool. | ||
| Back when it was just really uncool, and before it was really uncool. | ||
| So you remember that that other guy, Lukasz Wojciechka, was saying, he was describing that terrible period as being between 1993 and 2015. | ||
| And part of that is probably because Poland's current president has been in office since 2015. | ||
| And in that time, he's done a good deal of work towards what you might call solidifying anti-democratic power. | ||
| Andrzej Duda has essentially crippled their court system by refusing to swear injustices to the Constitutional Tribunal. | ||
| Despite those troubling signs, Polish journalists routinely dismiss Duda as just a puppet of the real power in the Polish government, Jaroslaw Karczynski. | ||
| He's the leader of the Law and Justice Party, which Duda was a part of until he got elected and then he became an independent. | ||
| But all signs point to him really still being under the sway of Karczynski. | ||
| Kaczynski. | ||
| Goddamn, so many Y's and C's all over the place. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| Kaczynski is a hard-right nationalist who aspires to assert complete government control over the judiciary, put controls in place over the media, and usher in what he calls a, quote, moral revolution. | ||
| He's super bad news, and he's head of the party that elected Duda as well as their current prime minister in Poland by passing them off as moderate candidates, when in reality... | ||
| All indications are that they're actually getting their marching orders directly from him. | ||
| If it's not clear why this is a problem, Peter Stesinski, a journalist who published underground periodicals against the Communist Party in the 80s, put it this way. | ||
| There are no longer checks and balances of power. | ||
| The parliamentary system is dysfunctional. | ||
| The constitutional court and judiciary are paralyzed. | ||
| New laws passed by the parliament can't be challenged or changed. | ||
| The government is supposed to publish sentences of the constitutional court to the Journal of Laws for them to become legally effective. | ||
| This is required by the constitution. | ||
| But the government, by not printing them, paralyzes the constitutional court, which has been reduced to announcing its sentences on the internet without any legal effect. | ||
| It's a very dangerous time. | ||
| It's a very dangerous time because in that kind of an environment, evil people are the first to realize that there are no longer consequences for their actions. | ||
| In this vacuum in Poland, fascists and xenophobic groups have been growing in power at a very rapid pace since 2015, knowing that the state isn't going to be there to push back against the mob. | ||
| This all came to a head at the Independence Day March in 2017, the year before this documentary is shot, which brings us to the reason why there isn't going to be a march this year. | ||
| According to the mayor of Warsaw. | ||
| There's a real reason, but here's what Christoph Bosak says. | ||
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It's pure nonsense. | |
| There is no reason in Polish law. | ||
| And we went to the court and court canceled the cancellation of the march. | ||
| So we organized the march since nine years. | ||
| We organized it always legally. | ||
| It's not a far-right march. | ||
| It's a national conservative march, patriotic march. | ||
| Are those different? | ||
| Organized by grassroots right-wing organizations from conservatives. | ||
| What if libertarians send the right people to nationalists, traditional Catholics, monarchists and so on? | ||
| Very different people in one march connected by national pride and patriotism and belief that Polish independence is something very important for us. | ||
| So that's a great way to, like, say things, but that's complete bullshit. | ||
| So this documentary is literally called Turd Polishing, then? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So you may remember the videos that came out in 2017 of the Independence March in Poland, and if you do, you remember seeing a horrifyingly large group of people with some real fucked-up signs chanting horrible things. | ||
| There were chants of pure Poland, white Poland, and refugees get out that broke out all over the march route. | ||
| One man interviewed by a news station said that he was marching to, quote, remove Jewry from power. | ||
| Tommy Robinson made the trip from the UK specifically to be there for that Independence Day march. | ||
| Andy Edels, a language teacher in Poland, described the march as, quote, 50,000 to 100,000 mostly football hooligans hijacking patriotism. | ||
| People in black masks marched behind large banners that read, Islam equals terror, and carried signs with slogans like, White Europe of Brotherly Nations. | ||
| Many carried signs displaying the Falanga, the symbol of the National Radical Camp, an ultra-nationalist Polish political party which traces its roots to the Falanga National Radical Camp, a group active in the 1930s who defined themselves by their fascism, anti-Semitism, and eliminationism. | ||
| They were a large driving force of anti-Semitic violence in Poland in the lead up to World War II. | ||
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Their party was outlawed by the state back then, but now, in 2017, their banner flew freely at this independent state march. | |
| As you might imagine, Oh, no! | ||
| Why? | ||
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Politicians marched alongside outright fascists. | |
| A celebration of national independence being characterized by people with signs demanding a white Europe. | ||
| Like, that sort of thing is not good for your look. | ||
| If you're the politicians who are like, I don't want to be associated with this. | ||
| Whether or not I'm okay with it, I don't want to be associated with it. | ||
| Too many of these videos are making it into international media. | ||
| Yeah, I don't like... | ||
| When you describe them as football hooligans who are also racist, I'm like, oh yeah, we have those in America. | ||
| There's a reason Colin Kaepernick doesn't have a job. | ||
| We don't even need to bother with the football equals soccer here. | ||
| You just use your word, we use ours. | ||
| Same shit, different day. | ||
| So, obviously, people weren't happy about that march and the optics and the visuals that came out of it and people being like, uh-oh, that's really fucking scary, that sort of thing. | ||
| And when the 2018 march rolled around, the mayor of Warsaw said no to the organizers, like Christoph Bosak, saying, quote, the city has suffered enough from aggressive nationalism. | ||
| President Duda decided to make his own Independence Day march to replace the one that was banned, that was being organized by these hyper-nationalist groups. | ||
| That sounds like an adult thing to do. | ||
| But he specifically said that if anyone was carrying a racist or fascist banner, they would be arrested. | ||
| So they canceled the march? | ||
| No, they did do the march, but it was a sanitized, whitewashed version of it under threat of arrest. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| The presence of chaotic laws and rampant unconstitutionality taking place since 2015 have created the environment in Poland where these sorts of things are bound to happen. | ||
| We've seen the same thing happen in our country, where fascists and Nazis feel free to walk around in public unashamed. | ||
| This is a large-scale problem in the world, which is why it should come as no surprise that at the 2017 march, fascists also marched with signs that said, We Want God, which was a reference to a Polish song. | ||
| They weren't quoting the song. | ||
| They were quoting Trump referencing the song in a speech that he gave in Poland a few months prior. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| A defense of the march was published in Politico's European arm. | ||
| It makes a very strange attempt to minimize the fascist character of many of the march's attendees. | ||
| Quote, out of the 60,000 people in attendance, no more than 10% could legitimately be called far-right nationalists of the fascist variety. | ||
| Too many. | ||
| Some would say too many. | ||
| 6,000? | ||
| 6,000's a lot. | ||
| This is a really defensive guy trying to defend this march, and he's starting with 10%? | ||
| That is not a good sign. | ||
| Look, I was there. | ||
| 60,000 total people, and only 6,000 people told me that N-Words need to go. | ||
| Like, it was, it's so nice. | ||
| That post ends with an argument that this is really about how the EU is desperate to, quote, use the threat of fascists as an excuse to push for further centralization and bureaucratization. | ||
| It's probably worth noting that that defense, that article in Politico, was written by Tomasz Worlobski, who's the president of the Warsaw Enterprise Institute. | ||
| I was about to say, I didn't want to pull, because I knew this was coming, because I did the same thing to you whenever I did my climate change episode. | ||
| But, yeah, I saw that one coming a long way off. | ||
| That was not difficult to guess in advance. | ||
| Fingerprints everywhere. | ||
| Everywhere. | ||
| That's kind of what's going on with this march. | ||
| It got way out of hand in 2017, and the city was like, fuck this. | ||
| And then they came up with a sanitized version that was agreeable to everybody. | ||
| The nationalists still got to be a part of the march. | ||
| The government got to celebrate the 100th anniversary. | ||
| Everyone got to come out and do this, and it didn't appear to be something so fucked up like it was the year before. | ||
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Right. | |
| Nobody screamed, kill the Jews. | ||
| Everybody was like, let's get rid of the Jays! | ||
| They mumbled. | ||
| They were talking about the Blue Jays, I assume. | ||
| Yeah, they don't like Jose Bautista. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Don't have any other... | ||
| That was not a bad one. | ||
| That was a good one. | ||
| That was good work. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| So, Stefan is here, and he's really excited to go to this march. | ||
| And it would be hard for me to see that, hear that, without thinking. | ||
| Part of why you're excited to go to this march is because you know what happened in 2017. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It doesn't... | ||
| I don't know how to encapsulate this other than... | ||
| He saw the image of what was being reported in the 2017 march. | ||
| So he comes to the 2018 march with the idea of, like, is it as bad as everyone says? | ||
| And obviously it's not going to be as bad because the government has stepped in and said, we will arrest you if you have racist and fascist signs. | ||
| If the government didn't do that, in 2018 the march would have been... | ||
| Racism. | ||
| Probably just as bad as in 2017. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But they had to control some of those aspects. | ||
| So what you're seeing is actually the opposite of free speech being represented and manifested here. | ||
| And it's a trap. | ||
| Because Stefan Molyneux is going to come in. | ||
| He's going to see the margins. | ||
| Everyone lies about them. | ||
| I didn't see any Jew bashing here. | ||
| Everyone is just so full of shit. | ||
| The only reason that is the case is because of state control, which you are super against! | ||
| And he knew that the... | ||
| So, I don't know when he made the plan to go to this march, but he knew before he made the plan to go to the march that the government was going to clamp down on hate speech. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| So, my supposition is this... | ||
| Or the Warsaw Enterprise Institute knew that. | ||
| Well, yeah, yeah. | ||
| My supposition is also, you know... | ||
| It wouldn't have mattered. | ||
| It could have been a shit show like it was in 2017, but he still would have made the same documentary. | ||
| Do you know what I'm saying? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think he could have. | ||
| Well, he probably couldn't have, but he would have tried. | ||
| He would have tried his hardest... | ||
| He would have tried to make the same point with a different documentary, a different presentation. | ||
| It would probably end up being about the awful Antifa leftists in Poland who are trying to stop this march from happening or something like that. | ||
| It would turn into a victim narrative as opposed to a, isn't this... | ||
| White ethnostate wonderful. | ||
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Right. | |
| Which is where we're going. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Spoiler alert. | ||
| That's where we're going. | ||
| I went to a bar where they allowed black people, and I was yelled at. | ||
| Isn't it black people's fault? | ||
| I went to a bar where there were a ton of black people around, and I said that they genetically have lower IQs. | ||
| And they weren't willing to engage me in serious debate? | ||
| They wouldn't let the free exchange of ideas happen, man. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| That's my position on that sort of thing. | ||
| So there's an interesting irony that Stefan Molyneux claims that he has some sort of Polish heritage, but he's not really specific about it, and it's not a major part of his identity at all. | ||
| He thinks that his name is spelled in the Polish way, which is whatever. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| But it's shocking to me how excited he is to take part in this Polish Independence Day thing when he's not Polish. | ||
| He's not involved with their country at all. | ||
| And so here's him expressing some of that. | ||
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So here, you're able to celebrate being Polish. | |
| You're able to celebrate Poland and everything that has survived and everything it will accomplish in the future. | ||
| Unironically, without having to defer to other people's feelings, other cultures' feelings, other races' feelings, you can just celebrate who you are and where you are. | ||
| I really wanted a taste of that. | ||
| Like I could return to that brief window of my childhood where celebration and pride was possible, and I can't wait to see it in the flesh come to life again. | ||
| Before this, he was talking about how when he was a younger man in the UK... | ||
| There was pride that you could have in being English, and now that sort of disappeared because of, I guess, diversity and multiculturalism. | ||
| So he's like, now I'm here in Poland, and maybe I can taste those sunset vistas of my youth that I remember so romantically in my head of being proud of being British by sort of association. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| Like, just from a moral standpoint, does he think what he just said is a good thing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I feel like what he just said is you're allowed to celebrate being... | ||
| Like, when he says, without having to defer to other races, it's like, wait, do you mean without having to consider what other people think? | ||
| Period. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| You're allowed to celebrate being Polish. | ||
| You're allowed to celebrate being part of this nation. | ||
| And you don't even have to think about how you're ruining other people's lives. | ||
| That's kind of what he just said, right? | ||
| I really kind of think that he's just saying, as long as you have a white nation, you don't have to be concerned about other... | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, at this point in the documentary, Stefan plays a bunch of swelling music and shows B-roll of the Independence Day march. | ||
| Again, it's important to note that this is the 2018 march, which is operating with a strict order from the government that it's a sanitized version because of last year. | ||
| This isn't a free speech haven, as he wants to portray it as. | ||
| It's a march that exists with the full expectation that if you show up with a no more Jews sign, you're going to get arrested. | ||
| Like I said earlier, this is a very literal representation of repressiveness in a march that he's attending. | ||
| But it definitely helps him create the visuals that he needs. | ||
| Namely that the ultra-nationalists he's hanging out are really just super into Poland. | ||
| Not that they're crazy xenophobic bigots. | ||
| Right. | ||
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The optics are there for him so perfectly. | |
| And he presents it in the worst manipulative way possible. | ||
| By censoring speech, I present this place as a bastion of free speech. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In this next clip, we get to Stefan sort of wrestling with the idea that he's so anti-collectivist to a very serious extent. | ||
| He's been an individualist that's defined so much of his career. | ||
| You can find probably a decade's worth of videos on his YouTube channel that he has... | ||
| I would say he should have taken down some of them, and thankfully I've got copies of them, so even if he does take them down, I don't really give a shit. | ||
| Wonderful. | ||
| But there's so many things from his career, and one of the biggest pieces of it is an obsession with individualism to a severe extent. | ||
| And as he discusses why he went to Poland... | ||
| He starts to talk about how he wanted to challenge his individualism and whether or not there is the possibility of collectives being okay. | ||
| And that's fucked up, given what we know about the collective that he's hanging out with. | ||
| But it's not unexpected! | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| I also wanted to put my individualism to the test because those of you who watched my show for the last 12 years know that I'm a very staunch individualist. | ||
| Know that I am skeptical, if not hostile, to collectivism as a whole. | ||
| And here you can see we have people marching in the same direction, carrying the same flag with the same pride. | ||
| And I have to tell you, I feel like something has just kind of broken in two within me. | ||
| That Aristotle said 2,500 years ago, whoever can live alone is either an animal or a god. | ||
| Well, I, of course, am neither an animal nor a god. | ||
| And I remember the pride when I was a child of the Second World War, the Battle of Britain. | ||
| And the last few days here in Poland have just kind of shattered something within me, in that the sense of collective unity, the sense of collective pride, the sense of having a tribe, the sense of having a culture you can be proud of. | ||
| has arisen within me and I've never been to Poland before. | ||
| My first name is Polish. | ||
| I know there's family history, but I've never been to Poland before and I can't tell you how strange a feeling it is that I have a sense of unity with people in a country I've never been to before. | ||
| I think this clip is a perfect encapsulation of how bigots hide behind lofty ideas to mask their real positions. | ||
| In this clip, Stefan claims that his longstanding position of being an individualist is being shattered by being around these people who are all marching in the same direction and are there for the same reason. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| Have you ever been to the Pride Parade? | ||
| How about the Puerto Rican Day Parade? | ||
| Any of these parades that I've been to in Chicago that are equally moving if you just engage with what... | ||
| No, collectivists. | ||
| All it took for Stefan Molyneux to reconsider one of his deepest held beliefs that he has, namely, that a man is an individual and collectives are to be viewed with suspicion, all it took to shatter that was to be walking around in a large collective of only white people. | ||
| That is all that is happening here in any way. | ||
| That is it. | ||
| I was a rugged individualist living in Atlanta, and then, believing that I could never find a collective, I went to my first Klan rally, and I finally found out that collectives aren't bad. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Fuck you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I... | ||
| What? | ||
| Look, I didn't want this to be a thing any more than you do. | ||
| But the moment he started saying, like, I've always been an individualist and I finally found a collective. | ||
| I was literally, in my head was screaming, just cut his dick off. | ||
| Like, screaming. | ||
| But then also at the same time, which you have to recognize, I think, is that this is the same thing as Alex. | ||
| Once he realizes the white nationalist applications of Rex 84, flipping on his very long-standing beliefs, because those beliefs are conditional. | ||
| Those things that these people have built their entire careers, personalities, identities, philosophies on, flip as soon as they recognize, oh, this works better for me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As soon as that being absorbed in the hole of an ethnostate or whatever, as soon as you experience that, you're like, oh shit, individualism sucks. | ||
| I want to be with my whites. | ||
| That sucks, man. | ||
| It's so sad. | ||
| It's such a bummer to see, and it's one of the reasons why I argue at the beginning of this episode, and will continue to on every episode that we do about Stefan, is that he is a lazy, bad philosopher. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because how did you not consider these possibilities in the last 12 years you've been doing your show as like, well, maybe I would be into collectives if they were the kind of collectives I would super be into, namely ones that exclude people I'm creeped out by. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or afraid of, or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I think in that last clip there, you got the sense that Stefan was about to cry. | ||
| You kind of... | ||
| I don't know if you could pick that up, but if you were watching the video, you could definitely see some wavering in his, like, I've never seen a collective like this. | ||
| Something in me has shattered. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In this next clip, he starts crying. | ||
| This quiet unity, this quiet pride, this calm resolution, this celebration without giddiness. | ||
| I've never seen it before. | ||
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And I feel almost... | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Almost... | ||
| I hate to say born again, but almost like something has broken within me that I have put up to defend myself against criticisms of unity, against criticisms of pride. | ||
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It is an appalling thing to take away people's history. | |
| It is an appalling thing to take away people's pride. | ||
| And it is an appalling thing to take away their unity, because I've never felt it. | ||
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Ugh! | |
| Gross! | ||
| Gross! | ||
| So then the swelling music kicks back in. | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| More B-roll of the march. | ||
| You emotionally manipulative piece of shit. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
| His new name is Turd Polisher Steve. | ||
| But dude, I'm not against that. | ||
| I'm calling him a TPS report from now on. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| But I also do think he's struggling a little bit. | ||
| I know that there is clear intention and malice and propaganda going on here, but I do think that there is some part of him that's like, fuck. | ||
| I realize what my career is about now. | ||
| This is what I've been talking about. | ||
| It's not really even that he had to go to Poland to see these things to get to that place. | ||
| I think it's just a realization of like... | ||
| Alright, let's just get real. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's just get real. | ||
| This is what I'm about already. | ||
| Fuck it! | ||
| I'm a white nationalist. | ||
| I can intellectualize this. | ||
| Yeah, this is perfect. | ||
| Look, I've been to the gay pride parade and I felt zero pride and I felt like I was being attacked, but I go to this white nationalist parade and I realize that collectivism is great, so now I want a nation for whites, I want a nation for gays, I want a nation for black people. | ||
| I want to say this super clearly and very specifically. | ||
| The footage that he shows of the parade in Poland... | ||
| Like, it is all white people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I don't think that all of those people are bigots or anything like that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There's a lot of people who are there with their kids who are out for the anniversary of their country's parade in Warsaw. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And everybody loves the fucking parade, man. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah, it's just a parade! | ||
| Yeah, there is no damning indictment of everybody who was in that parade. | ||
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Right. | |
| But knowing the history of the previous years of that parade, it's tough to escape the character of the march itself. | ||
| And again, not an indictment of all of these people there, or the city of Warsaw, or Poland even as a whole. | ||
| Like, it's not the people's fault there. | ||
| There's something... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is it, like, when they showed B-roll of the parade, was it, like, a fun parade? | ||
| Yeah, a lot of it seemed pretty awesome. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| People with flares and stuff like that. | ||
| Okay, that's great. | ||
| I remember growing up, I was in the marching band, and I used to play for the... | ||
| Town parade that we would always do. | ||
| The high school marching band would always play. | ||
| And I remember people throwing candy out. | ||
| There were floats. | ||
| Is it that kind of thing? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's mostly just people walking with Polish flags. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I mean, I guess that's fine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And some music and people singing patriotic songs and stuff like that. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But as it becomes night, there are people with, like, flares and, like, doing, like, sort of... | ||
| It's not really even a dance, but sort of a demonstration with the flares. | ||
| Right. | ||
| See, this is, again, why Carnival is the best parade. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| When you have to describe something as not really a dance, then you don't understand how joy works. | ||
| Stefan would say, a little gay of Carnival. | ||
| But the other thing, too, is all of the B-roll, until it gets to evening when there's those people with the flares, it's all just people with Polish flags. | ||
| And part of that is what President Duda said, which is... | ||
| I believe his quote was... | ||
| Put away your hate the Jews and put up your Polish flags. | ||
| It was, you can come, but only come with your red and white flags. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| Like, that's the only thing that's going to be acceptable for people to be marching with. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And so people understood that we're going to get arrested if we come with anything else. | ||
| So we've already got our first absolute bullshit thing that he's doing here, is he's saying all of these... | ||
| Okay, I apologize for saying first. | ||
| Our, uh, what? | ||
| Let's call it 68th. | ||
| He is saying that the people who have covered the parade in the past have gotten the parade wrong. | ||
| Because this parade that he's at currently does not reflect the coverage from the previous parade. | ||
| He is not admitting that the current parade does not reflect at all the previous parades. | ||
| The circumstances are entirely different. | ||
| So both can be true. | ||
| You can have the white nationalist horrifying parade that the mainstream media covered perfectly, and you can also have the relatively calm parade in 2018. | ||
| Sanitized version for optics. | ||
| But they're not mutually exclusive. | ||
| No, but if you're... | ||
| He's trying to present them as though they were mutually exclusive. | ||
| Well, because the part that he wants to express really is that... | ||
| What was being talked about in the 2017 aftermath and all that stuff was bullshit. | ||
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Right. | |
| It was fake. | ||
| It was just a bunch of collectivists coming in. | ||
| False flags. | ||
| Globalists coming in and saying, like, this is, like, they are fake-newsing this wonderful celebration of Poland. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| And all this, whatever. | ||
| So at this point, there's a lot of swelling music and more B-roll of the parade. | ||
| And then the parade ends, and there's more sort of heroic, contemplative music. | ||
| And Stefan Molyneux is at a graveyard, and he starts waxing poetic about Poland's role in World War II. | ||
| I already don't want to hear this. | ||
| We're not going to listen to any of it, because it's so rambling and so long. | ||
| Okay, thank God. | ||
| And also, point taken. | ||
| Whatever thing he could be trying to bring into the conversation, we know. | ||
| And that is that World War II fucking sucked. | ||
| It was a horrible time for people, including the Polish. | ||
| Everybody did not have a good time in World War II. | ||
| So him waxing rhapsodic about Poland's role in World War II, it's like, yes, sure. | ||
| Doesn't help your point here. | ||
| It really doesn't. | ||
| He loves to, whenever people critique him on Twitter and stuff like that, his stock response is always, not an argument to send back to them. | ||
| So I would suggest you blowing hard in a fucking graveyard about why this, like... | ||
| This white nationalism that you were coming to accept, that's not an argument. | ||
| Whatever you're doing is not an argument. | ||
| So at this point, Stefan Molyneux gets on a train. | ||
| And he has a little bit of a breakdown on this train. | ||
| Not a crying breakdown. | ||
| He did that at the parade. | ||
| But he has a little bit of a breakdown about his ideas, his philosophy that he's maintained for all these years, particularly about the idea of collectivism being bad. | ||
| Is there a benevolent collectivism? | ||
| Is there a good version of collectivism? | ||
| Have I seen it here in Poland? | ||
| I have seen so many negative aspects of collectivism. | ||
| That it became a devil with no redeeming characteristics or features for me. | ||
| It was a cloud with no silver lining. | ||
| It was a night without a dawn, a rain without an end. | ||
| And almost like trying to sand or jam a square peg into a round hole, I have to face the fairly beautiful collectivism of the Poles and try and figure it into my mindset of collectivism as bad. | ||
| Even my definition of collectivism has been found wanting. | ||
| But I am an empiricist, and I also respect emotion. | ||
| And if my emotions react positively to the beauty and strength of Polish collectivism, I can't just dismiss that. | ||
| I can't just say, well, that's just a silly throwback to medieval tribalism, and it must be expunged from my character. | ||
| So that's tough. | ||
| That's tough to square. | ||
| So Turd Polisher Steve here. | ||
| Right. | ||
| GPS. | ||
| Does everybody not... | ||
| I don't understand how he has a cult. | ||
| Because it's very clear that he is a pompous, pretentious fuck who should shut the hell up. | ||
| I don't understand how people are listening to this. | ||
| That's a pretty understated criticism. | ||
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No, that's very real. | |
| Even if he wasn't a white nationalist, even if he was just a guy who was really into Play-Doh. | ||
| Yeah, even if it's like you're a pompous, pretentious fuck, shut up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So in this next clip, Stefan is still on the train, and he talks some more about this idea of this benevolent collectivism. | ||
| But again, you have to recognize that what he's talking about is being surrounded by only... | ||
| And that the collectivism that is beneficial has been driven out By a great thirst to implant in me a collectivism. | ||
| Ah, this just struck me. | ||
| If you drive after benevolent collectivism, you atomize people. | ||
| You alienate them from their tribe, their peers, their benevolent gang. | ||
| I have, for the most part, over the course of my career as a public intellectual, worked... | ||
| Hold the fucking... | ||
| Shut up! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| Because, you see, collectivism was just terrible. | ||
| Collectivism was awful. | ||
| And therefore, those who have organized themselves along collectivist lines have a great advantage over me. | ||
| Because I lack a tribe. | ||
| I lack a community. | ||
| I lack a group. | ||
| Shut the fuck up! | ||
| Even now, being out of the studio, the studio is a solitary occupation. | ||
| It's me and a camera. | ||
| Being out here with these wonderful people who are organizing and filming and recording what it is that I'm doing is a very different experience. | ||
| So that's something interesting to me, because he's saying that there's people who are organizing and filming, and there are other people who are involved in this documentary. | ||
| And I'll tell you that at the end of this, he has a credit. | ||
| Like, the credits. | ||
| There's nobody mentioned in the credits who could have been the camera people. | ||
| There's only one... | ||
| There's two title cards in the credits. | ||
| One is starring Stefan Molyneux. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the other one is Thanks. | ||
| To the whites. | ||
| No, it's thanks to the people that he interviewed in the documentary. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then a Breitbart writer. | ||
| I don't think that... | ||
| I think that that probably was just like... | ||
| Because that Breitbart writer does talk about Polish issues a lot. | ||
| Yeah, he was probably like, hey, you should try going to Poland one time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The thanks. | ||
| That guy who works for Breitbart is the only person who doesn't appear on camera in the thanks. | ||
| Is he doing this with a... | ||
| Thanks to Freedom Bar, but he doesn't thank the Warsaw Enterprise Institute, which is probably not suspicious. | ||
| But there's nothing in there to indicate that there were camera people. | ||
| Is he using a handheld? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| So he doesn't list any of the people who actually... | ||
| No credits for the people who are actually working on this, which again strikes me as very suspicious. | ||
| Because it's possible that those people were employees of the WEI. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| It's very possible that these people... | ||
| Don't want credits. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because it's like, well, the fingerprints will be here that'll be too obvious for people to trace back that we brought you here to do this propaganda documentary. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Now, I can't prove that. | ||
| It could have just been the Warsaw Tourism Board, Dan. | ||
| It doesn't necessarily have to be the Warsaw White Nationalist Party Institute. | ||
| I don't think they would be that. | ||
| No, the tourism board is really influential with Stefan Molyneux, our turd polisher Steve. | ||
| So, you heard there, you know, he's talking about, like, I've been deprived of this benevolent, wonderful, beneficial collectivism that is all white people hanging out. | ||
| Which is great. | ||
| Yeah, the more he uses the word benevolent, the more I want to punch him in the face. | ||
| And he's like, I have no team. | ||
| I have no tribe. | ||
| And he's like, go fuck yourself. | ||
| You're doing all right, you white nationalist piece of shit. | ||
| So at the end of that clip, he's talking about how being in the studio is a solitary exercise. | ||
| It's just me and a camera. | ||
| Which is what he chose to do. | ||
| I mean, that's what he's always done. | ||
| Back in the day, his oldest videos you can find on his YouTube channel are him driving around in a car with a camera on him. | ||
| Just driving to work, I guess. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| Just driving around. | ||
| Just on a commute. | ||
| Yeah, just giving a little like, well, here are my thoughts about blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| I'm going to work at my homeopath shop, so while I'm on the way, let me tell you about collectivism. | ||
| He's always sought that. | ||
| That singular thing. | ||
| That individualist thing. | ||
| It's always been what he's about. | ||
| And in this next clip, I think that it comes from him being an antisocial fuck on some level. | ||
| But he blames the globalists for it. | ||
| There is strength in numbers. | ||
| There is strength in community. | ||
| There is power in the tribe. | ||
| The enemy we face is great and powerful and organized and well-financed and enormous in number. | ||
| Maybe they tricked me into fighting alone so that I and everyone would just lose. | ||
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Boo! | |
| Get up! | ||
| You suck! | ||
| Even from, like, you take any of the ideas out of it. | ||
| Yeah, that sucks. | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
| You goddamn mope. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| They tricked me into fighting alone. | ||
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Go fucking cry for yourself, you asshole. | |
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| This is so frustrating because it's like, oh, so that asshole in your college philosophy class could just have started a cult if he tried hard enough and had a British accent? | ||
| That is so fucking annoying. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| If you've ever been in college in a philosophy class, you've met this asshole and he's fucking stupid and you know it. | ||
| Yeah, I was a philosophy minor. | ||
| I met a number of these guys. | ||
| You met this asshole? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| God! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, I mean, one of the things that is important, too, is that, like, I know that you're resistant to this idea, but Stefan Molyneux is pretty smart. | ||
| It's just not the right kind of intelligence. | ||
| I didn't say he wasn't smart. | ||
| I know, I understand that. | ||
| I just said he was a turd polisher. | ||
| People resist whenever I say, sort of... | ||
| Apparently positive things about awful people. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| I understand what you're saying. | ||
| And I don't mean to say that he's smart in terms of he's able to analyze these ideas and come with a good conclusion. | ||
| He's smart in the way that he's able to package things. | ||
| He's smart in the way he's able to present these ideas as sounding less crazy than they actually are. | ||
| He's smart in the way that Ted Cruz was the debate team captain or whatever it is. | ||
| If you want to go back to that metaphor. | ||
| There's definitely an intelligence there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just dumb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, that was on the train, but in this next clip, he's back in the graveyard. | ||
| He's talking in the graveyard, and I do think... | ||
| This clip's a little bit longer, but if you really listen to it, I do think that this is an accidental condemnation of what he does and what the people he surrounds himself do and their effect on the world. | ||
| That sounds about right. | ||
| If it was natural for us to hate each other, why would so many words and speeches and books be required to teach us to hate each other? | ||
| Why would we need to be fed from the black tea to propaganda and sophistry? | ||
| Why would we need to constantly be force-fed this propaganda if it was natural for us to hate each other? | ||
| Where do these graves come from? | ||
| They do not come from human nature. | ||
| They come from the language we imbibe, the language we speak, the hatreds that we sow, where we say, this group will exploit you. | ||
| This group will cheat you. | ||
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This group rightfully took what was yours and we're going to take it back for you by force. | |
| This group deserves to die. | ||
| This group are your friends. | ||
| These groups are your enemies. | ||
| This is the language we constantly are given, are force-fed. | ||
| A good end to this documentary would be, I'm so sorry for my career. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say. | ||
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Because... | |
| If it was natural to do the things that I do, then why would... | ||
| Oh, no, that's me. | ||
| I'm the one who's doing this. | ||
| These graves are the result of propaganda. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Now take that thought a step further. | ||
| I'm a propagandist. | ||
| That step isn't taken, and instead it just strengthens his resolve. | ||
| That's such the are-we-the-baddies moment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it turns out, he's not. | ||
| He is! | ||
| That's us. | ||
| I do not believe that these hatreds are innate to us, and then the moment that the social order breaks down, they erupt like dormant volcanoes and have us at each other's throats all the time. | ||
| I believe that we can live in much greater peace. | ||
| There will be differences, there will be disagreements, there will be arguments, but I believe that we can live in much greater peace. | ||
| But to live in greater peace, we must be very, very careful about the language that we use to describe our group, other groups, or whether there are even groups at all to begin with. | ||
| I believe that we have a much greater common humanity and we must be taught to hate each other. | ||
| Sure? | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| Where do these graves come from? | ||
| These graves come from language. | ||
| These graves come from the seeds of hatred that are sowed by the syllables of sophistry. | ||
| Nice alliteration. | ||
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Alright. | |
| The syllables of sophistry? | ||
| Now, that analysis is kind of like... | ||
| So vague as to be meaningless, because he is pointing the finger at himself and people like Alex and all of that, but he's doing it with the inversion, with the like... | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| We're the ones who are right. | ||
| We're talking about you globalists who insist on multiculturalism. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| That is the sowing the seeds of sophistry that leads to these graves. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Which is so abusive. | ||
| Like, that idea of, like, I believe that we don't have to hate each other. | ||
| It's just these languages that we use to talk about ourselves and the people we disagree with. | ||
| It's like if the Martin Luther King Jr. speech was given by Strom Thurmond. | ||
| You'd be like... | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I get where all your words are coming from. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But you're a white nationalist. | ||
| So what you're really saying underneath all of this wonderful and beautiful language is as long as the white people are in charge and nobody is allowed to say anything else about us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, I appreciate that point. | ||
| I think you're totally right. | ||
| But I also think that we should call ourselves out because we've been calling Stefan Molyneux a white nationalist this entire time. | ||
| And maybe that's unfair. | ||
| It's not unfair because of what he says in this next clip. | ||
| I've also called him Turd Polisher Steve. | ||
| Let's not forget that. | ||
| Well, more importantly, hear what he says in this next clip. | ||
| We are free to call him a white nationalist. | ||
| First of all, I've always been skeptical of the ideas of white nationalism, of identitarianism, and white identity. | ||
| However, I am an empiricist, and I could not help but notice that I could have... | ||
| Peaceful, free, easy, civilized, and safe discussions in what is essentially an all-white country. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So... | ||
| Hey, buddy. | ||
| Hey, Stefan. | ||
| So, hold on. | ||
| You just told on yourself. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| You just told on yourself real hard. | ||
| Did he just say what I think he said? | ||
| No one yelled at me, so white supremacy is fucking awesome. | ||
| White nationalism is the way to go because no one will call me names. | ||
| So is he trying... | ||
| His dumb argument... | ||
| Is that white nationalism is good because nationalism is good and we need to separate ourselves from... | ||
| So, I'm in a white nationalist country and it's a white nation. | ||
| It should be for whites. | ||
| If I went to a black nationalist country, that nation should be for blacks. | ||
| I wouldn't be accepted there and never the twain shall meet. | ||
| Now, hey, historically, maybe when there are all white nations, Bad shit goes down. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Could have something to do with why we don't do that anymore. | ||
| But as long as it's all whites, we're good. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's a white nationalist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think he said as much. | ||
| I think he pretty much outlined it. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| Whenever you say, like, I've been resistant to the ideas of white nationalism and identitarianism. | ||
| But I'm an empiricist. | ||
| I'm an empiricist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, hey. | ||
| I only go by the facts, and the fact is no one yelled at me here in Poland, and that means that the free exchange of ideas is possible as long as everyone is white. | ||
| What a fucking asshole. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, that's a level of terrible thinking that only exists when you have a conclusion you want to get to, and you're working your way towards it. | ||
| Because anybody who was an empiricist would consider alternatives. | ||
| I was in Poland for two days, and I happened to go to this sanitized version of the Independence Day parade and a bar that's run by a group that isn't... | ||
| like a hard-right think tank. | ||
| What if I'm only seeing what they want me to see? | ||
| What if I'm not getting the full picture of what it's like to be Polish? | ||
| What if I am only seeing the... | ||
| The Warsaw Enterprise Institute's version of what they want the message to be. | ||
| That's what an empiricist would ask themselves. | ||
| They wouldn't just accept this blindly and be like, white nationalism is sweet. | ||
| That only exists if you're trying to justify that. | ||
| Well, there have been so many examples of that where they take a well-known writer and... | ||
| You know, China or Poland or wherever will bring them in and they'll have a tour guide. | ||
| And they'll have somebody who's very carefully orchestrating their entire thing. | ||
| So when they write the piece... | ||
| Holy shit, it's overwhelmingly positive. | ||
| That happened with P.G. Wodehouse in World War II. | ||
| He collaborated with the Nazis, essentially, because they just showed him the version of Nazism that they wanted him to see. | ||
| And he did radio broadcasts that were satirical and comedic in nature that minimized the idea of the Nazis being evil. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Afterwards, he talked about how, like, I didn't know what was going on. | ||
| Right. | ||
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That sort of thing. | |
| And people, it still, to his death, dogged him. | ||
| This idea of people who were like, you. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| the new is doing is the equivalent yes he is going into a place where there is a very serious situation politically and socially and culturally going on and he is beholden to very clearly um this one specific think tank like yeah i don't like to be like ah this is all And the fact that he doesn't bring it up at all... | ||
| Like, this is an interesting organization or anything like that. | ||
| It cannot be a coincidence. | ||
| It can't be. | ||
| No. | ||
| I think it... | ||
| I'm an empiricist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Ha, ha, ha! | |
| Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. | ||
| Yes, you are, Dan. | ||
| But I also trust my emotions. | ||
| Ah, yes. | ||
| And as we found out from his... | ||
| Ridiculous posturing. | ||
| You cannot be an empiricist if you do not also trust your emotions. | ||
| What a fucking asshole. | ||
| You've got to ask yourself, though, in question, what was it that... | ||
| I mean, I think we all... | ||
| At the end of this right now, here, I think we all understand that Stefan Molyneux went to Poland hoping to reach this conclusion, and he reached the conclusion. | ||
| White nationalism is fucking awesome. | ||
| These people that are seen as extreme aren't as extreme, as evidenced by the fact that there weren't all kinds of crazy people at this independence march. | ||
| Everyone is totally cool and super wonderful. | ||
| But that still leaves one important question, and that is, why did he cry? | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| Why did Stefan Molyneux cry at that march? | ||
| Because that's fucked up. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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Optics? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But he's not like Alex. | ||
| Making a good documentary? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, it is emotionally resonant to some extent. | ||
| But he's not like Alex. | ||
| He's not unhinged like Alex. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The way that Alex fakes crying, or even does cry sometimes about Twitter taking his kids away, or something like that, that's in Alex's wheeled house. | ||
| With Molyneux, that is not part of his presentation. | ||
| And it seems very strange. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And thankfully, he describes what happened and why he was moved in this next clip. | ||
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The polls are not guilty. | |
| And guilt has been so infused into the hearts and minds of Europeans and of whites that to see a shame-free and guilt-free culture, a resilient, strong culture that is resisting collectivism, is something that moved me more than I can probably ever express, but I hope is encapsulated in the footage that you're seeing in this documentary. | ||
| It is. | ||
| I assure you, it's encapsulated. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you're totally right. | ||
| Why did he say whites? | ||
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Yep. | |
| Why did he say whites? | ||
| You didn't even need to say whites. | ||
| That's him telling himself again. | ||
| You didn't need to say whites. | ||
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Just say Polish. | |
| You literally didn't need to say whites. | ||
| Just say Polish. | ||
| You could have just said the Poles. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Why are the Poles infused with guilt and whites? | ||
| No, you didn't need to say, end the fucking sentence. | ||
| But he can't, because that's what he cares about. | ||
| God, that's so fucking annoying. | ||
| I hate him so much. | ||
| He's the worst. | ||
| So in this next clip, he talks about how it's great to be in Poland, mostly because everybody's white. | ||
| White guilt is just a horribly profitable vending machine that people pound in order to get resources from largely white male taxpayers. | ||
| And it's a horrible shakedown. | ||
| And it's something that should be enormously resisted. | ||
| And if you doubt as to why it should be resisted... | ||
| Look at Poland. | ||
| Look at the glory, the celebration, the peace, the cleanliness. | ||
| Everywhere I went, the streets are clean, the people are civilized. | ||
| I did not see one drunk person. | ||
| I did not see one fistfight. | ||
| I did not see one crazy protester out there threatening violence because there are ideas that they don't agree with. | ||
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What's not to love about something like that? | |
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| Stefan fancies himself a philosopher, Jordan. | ||
| Does he? | ||
| If we hold him to that standard, that sentence, that entire clip, is an indictment of his capabilities in that realm. | ||
| He's asserting that he saw a wonderful utopia in Poland where there was no fighting or drunk people and everything was clean. | ||
| He's ascribing these things he's seen as being a result of the fact that only white people were around. | ||
| It's very clear based on the other clips before this. | ||
| Oh yeah, absolutely. | ||
| No, the only conclusion that you can draw from what he's saying is that those things only exist because of non-whites. | ||
| Yeah, and I mean, if you talk about the sort of concrete versions of this, he's talking about it's clean, I didn't see any fights, whatever. | ||
| Great? | ||
| The bare minimum of human existence is your... | ||
| That's something where you're taking correlation and ascribing causation. | ||
| You haven't proved the fact that only white people around caused streets to be cleaner and no fights. | ||
| Everybody knows that when there's only white people around, there are clean streets and no fights. | ||
| There's no history that would suggest otherwise, Dan. | ||
| Name one place. | ||
| I used to live a block away from Wrigley Field. | ||
| Where he really tells on himself is when he says, everyone is civilized. | ||
| That's where he tells on himself a little bit. | ||
| Because that is not definable in concrete terms. | ||
| That is an assessment that he's making, as opposed to an empirical analysis of, the streets are clean, there weren't fights. | ||
| Those are things that have metrics behind them. | ||
| There is one fight. | ||
| Oh, there's two fights. | ||
| There's three fights. | ||
| You know, versus zero, or whatever. | ||
| The people are civilized. | ||
| That's what you think about them. | ||
| It's a dog whistle in the same way it would be like, and every black person I saw was very articulate. | ||
| And you're like, you know what you said. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know well what you fucking said. | ||
| So even if he is right that there weren't any fights in Poland while he was there, which he's not right about, he hasn't proved the causal connection between the things he's seeing and the fact that everyone there is white. | ||
| That is sloppy, junior varsity level. | ||
| To quote Stefan Molyneux, that is not an argument. | ||
| I suppose the only way that you could, and I don't know why I'm somehow on the side of giving him the benefit of the doubt here, is if instead of him saying white, what he meant was homogenous. | ||
| Like, that's the only way that you could say he has more of an argument to stand on because Because his argument then is, because all of the people are like each other in the same ways, and they have a shared, let's call it whiteness, then there is far more peace than if there was a, let's call it, miscegenation. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And we know how well it is when white people say miscegenation. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| In the same way that all these people hide, and Stefan does all the time too, they hide their bigotry behind these lofty intellectualizing masks, that sort of thing. | ||
| He does do that. | ||
| That idea that it's homogeneity as opposed to whiteness. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That I'm responding to. | ||
| That's what I was thinking. | ||
| But let's imagine him as an empiricist and a philosopher going to a hypothetical all-black country. | ||
| And experiencing it. | ||
| Do you think he would walk away from being like, oh, everyone is so civilized here. | ||
| Isn't this wonderful? | ||
| Because it's a homogenized society and they treated me with such respect. | ||
| I think he pretends that he would respond the same way. | ||
| He would totally pretend that. | ||
| But he would never do this documentary about it because what he's interested in is defending white nationalism, white separatism, identitarianism. | ||
| Those are the things that he's interested in defending. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Stefan gives a metaphor about campfires. | ||
| I really don't think he's qualified to make metaphors. | ||
| He's only got a master's degree in history. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I don't think metaphors are really something that are in his purview. | ||
| This one's alright, though. | ||
| It's about keeping the fire. | ||
| So there's a campfire that you've got, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it's burning out. | ||
| You've got to go get wood, but also you've got to stay warm by the fire. | ||
| It's an existential crisis. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
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Well... | |
| The shallowness and hollowness of Western European culture compared to the seriousness and depth of Polish culture is really a startling contrast and something that I will take with me to my grave. | ||
| Hold on one second. | ||
| Freedom, you see, is like a fire. | ||
| To have a fire, you need to go and gather the firewood. | ||
| You need to light the fire. | ||
| And then, my friends, you know what you need to do? | ||
| You need to tend that fire. | ||
| By keeping non-white people out. | ||
| I was going to say, are non-white people the firewood in this metaphor? | ||
| So that you can go out into the woods to gather more firewood, to keep that fire alive, and pass it down to your children as your fathers passed it down to you. | ||
| Pull it. | ||
| Is keeping that fire alive. | ||
| The rest of Western Europe and the rest of the West is not. | ||
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What? | |
| What's different about them? | ||
| When the fire... | ||
| Their fires are colder. | ||
| ...of liberty, history of your civilization, when it begins to diminish, when it begins to die out, there is a great temptation to huddle up close to that fire and to stay close and to warm yourself from the dying embers and fading coals of that fire. | ||
| Rather than go out into the woods to gather more wood, to feed that fire and bring it to life again. | ||
| It is so easy to take that fire for granted and to imagine that the fire is not something you need to protect and feed, but it's like the sun. | ||
| It burns of its own accord, gives you warmth, whether you work for it or not. | ||
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It's false. | |
| It's false. | ||
| And it's a destructive fantasy to imagine that the fire will last as long as you and your ancestors It's very unclear the specifics that he's talking about, but it is clear that because he's so emotionally and intrinsically changed by experiencing, | ||
| like he said it himself, I'm suspicious of white nationalism and identitarianism, but I'm an empiricist, and what I've seen in Poland has made me realize that's pretty cool stuff. | ||
| So if his conclusion comes to... | ||
| The fire of freedom is really delicate. | ||
| Whatever the woods are, whatever the firewood, whatever the fire itself is, all of it is about preserving, in the best way to phrase it, your culture. | ||
| But it is white separatism. | ||
| Your culture does not exist if blacks come in. | ||
| Your culture doesn't exist if Muslims come in. | ||
| He can't be that... | ||
| Popular, and he totally is, isn't he? | ||
| He is. | ||
| He's very popular. | ||
| All he has is a turd-polished version of Whites Are Great. | ||
| Every idea that he's presented so far is a different variation of the Whites Are Great. | ||
| But I'm going to say it in a different flowery language. | ||
| It's an infuriating thing for him to do. | ||
| Because if you know what he's talking about, no matter how much flowery language you use, you're still trying to say the N-word. | ||
| That's what you're really trying to do. | ||
| And another piece of it, too, is I understand that he gives a long, impassioned speech about the Polish... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Again, it's fine. | ||
| Great. | ||
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Yeah, we take that as, you know, except. | |
| Hey. | ||
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Except. | |
| I accept that. | ||
| A lot of folks. | ||
| But there's nothing in this documentary that I really see an acknowledgement of what's going on presently in Poland. | ||
| Like, there's nothing that indicates to me that he even knows. | ||
| Like, Duda doesn't come up by name at all in the documentary. | ||
| I don't even think the Law and Justice Party comes up. | ||
| Right. | ||
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The idea that this guy, Krzysztof, The Bosak that he's talking to is someone in the National Movement Party. | |
| The fact that the WEI is so deeply involved in sort of running interference and sort of justifying the anti-democratic acts of the government and our, you know... | ||
| Behind at least one of the interviews he's doing and the bar he goes to. | ||
| I just can't walk away from this documentary without looking at it and thinking, this is something that was planned to an extent. | ||
| There's no way that these elements would exist in it so consistently. | ||
| And the people who would be publishing articles in Politico justifying the 2017 march that became such an embarrassment for these nationalist groups overplaying their hand to a certain extent. | ||
| All of that would trace back to a single think tank. | ||
| I don't think that it's possible. | ||
| This documentary is only an hour long. | ||
| It's not like he talks to a wide array of people. | ||
| It's not like he goes to many... | ||
| There's four scenes in the documentary. | ||
| There's the interviews. | ||
| I have five. | ||
| There's the interviews, there's him standing in the woods in the snow talking, there's the parade itself, there's him struggling with his own emotions on a train, and then there is him in the graveyard. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's the entire documentary. | ||
| I assume he has at least one interview with somebody who was at the 2017 march. | ||
| Well, I mean, I guess Bosak was, for sure. | ||
| He was involved in it. | ||
| Who was on the receiving end of so much... | ||
| Bigotry and horror. | ||
| I assume he has one interview. | ||
| Like, just as a token interview, that's all you need to do. | ||
| Would you be surprised to find out that is not in this at all? | ||
| No, wait, no. | ||
| So he doesn't have any conversation with anyone who disagrees with him? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| There's a unified front here. | ||
| That seems less like a documentary and more like a propaganda film. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| So we have one more clip, and it's how Stefan ends the documentary, and it's a little bit jarring. | ||
| Liberty is not constant. | ||
| It is not a force of nature. | ||
| It is not a force of gravity. | ||
| It is not an element of physics. | ||
| It is something that must be willed and protected and maintained and kept every single generation. | ||
| Poland remembers what the rest of the West has forgotten, which is that your freedoms, which take generations to build, the fires of liberty that keep your civilization warm, can vanish and go out like that. | ||
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The End And that's the end. | |
| Oh. | ||
| Okay, cool, dude. | ||
| So Poland has remembered that. | ||
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Right. | |
| The only substantive difference between Poland and any other country that even Stefan has demonstrated is that everyone is white. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like that. | ||
| And I don't think that the population... | ||
| Well, you are an empiricist. | ||
| I don't think that the population of Poland is 100% white or anything like that. | ||
| I think it's the version of Poland that he was exposed to. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| So that's the only thing that is fundamentally different from any other place. | ||
| He was kept cloistered in white separatist, white nationalist enclaves. | ||
| And that is enough for him to say, like, they are keeping the fire alive. | ||
| These are the... | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It is insanely transparent. | ||
| It's all the more so because I... | ||
| Man, if I were the Warsaw Enterprises Institute, I would go out... | ||
| I would scour the entire fucking country to find any non-white person who would agree with that stuff. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| On camera. | ||
| Oh, that'd be good optics. | ||
| Like, one by one... | ||
| A phone book, name by name, anybody who would be on camera. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Even the Trump administration can grab somebody, you know, and they'll pretend that he's not racist or whatever it is. | ||
| So the fact that they couldn't even get... | ||
| One. | ||
| It does indicate. | ||
| It's kind of a big deal. | ||
| They couldn't even get one to be at his bar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When Stefan's giving a speech. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They couldn't get one person to stand in the background while Stefan is videotaping the march. | ||
| I will give you ten grand to stand next to this horrible racist. | ||
| There is no non-white people that I could find. | ||
| I'll say that there is a possibility there's someone way in the background. | ||
| Hey, you know what? | ||
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It happens. | |
| But I couldn't see anybody that wasn't white. | ||
| In this entire documentary. | ||
| And that's the substantive difference. | ||
| That is what changed Stefan Molyneux's mind from being skeptical of white nationalism and identitarianism to being like, thumbs up. | ||
| So that was the end of the documentary. | ||
| But it's not the end of the video. | ||
| I, oh, okay. | ||
| The documentary ends with that freedom can disappear just like that. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You could tell from the sound effect what happened on screen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He could use an editor to pare down his language a little bit. | ||
| But a good editor would probably require a credit, and he's not willing to give one. | ||
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Fair. | |
| So, Stefan ends the documentary after the entire corpus of the work is done by coming back on camera and pleading with his audience to give him more money so he can do more of his work. | ||
| See, he did an encore that was just an ad pivot. | ||
| Ad pivot. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| He's realized that he doesn't want to stay in his studio, and that there's a big world out there for him to be a racist idiot in, but he needs them to pay for it. | ||
| He needs his cult to provide him the money to be able to do it. | ||
| Incidentally, in August of 2018, Stefan Molyneux made another trip outside of his studio. | ||
| Him and Lauren Southern made a trip to New Zealand, where they did a speaking tour. | ||
| Late last week, two mosques in New Zealand were the target of terrorist attacks. | ||
| The hostility toward non-white people being seen as an invading army is all entirely rooted in the ideas that people like Stefan Molyneux have made a career off of spreading. | ||
| This mentality isn't new, but it's something that's been made so much worse in recent years by propagandists who have validated white terrorism. | ||
| Their lineage comes down from Alex Jones making excuses for Timothy McVeigh all the way down to the present day where we've seen Alex Jones making excuses for this terrorist act in New Zealand. | ||
| Not even making excuses, just kind of saying that it's a good idea. | ||
| Yeah, kind of get it. | ||
| Kind of get it. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| Hey! | ||
| Right. | ||
| So while Alex Jones is what we focus on and what we study and we talk about all the time, it's always important to recognize that there's a greater ecosystem here that Alex is a part of. | ||
| Stefan Molyneux comes on Alex's show. | ||
| I'm not sure if he comes on that much anymore, but he has been a fairly regular guest for a while. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| He's someone who exists in the same anti-other to capture the bigger picture of it. | ||
| Anti-non-white people worldview that Alex is a piece of. | ||
| And it's impossible not to see this document as almost a debutante party for himself, where he comes out into the world and declares himself, you know what, I am a white nationalist. | ||
| We've known, Stefan, we know. | ||
| We've known this for a while, and we've been criticizing you for it. | ||
| People have been criticizing him and saying, hey, these ideas you're expressing are explicitly white supremacist, white nationalist. | ||
| You're a piece of shit. | ||
| That's why he gets yelled at when he goes and gives speaking engagements. | ||
| So when he goes to Poland and he's in this enclave that's a very safe space for him, and he's like, oh my god, it's all white people around. | ||
| Isn't this fucking awesome? | ||
| Isn't this the best thing ever? | ||
| He comes out and he recognizes. | ||
| I am a white nationalist. | ||
| And that means two things. | ||
| One, no shit you are. | ||
| And second, fuck you for being mad at people for yelling it at you. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| How dare you be mad that people yell, hey, you're a white nationalist, when all it took for you to get in a documentary that you presumably have final cut on and say, I always was suspicious of white nationalism, but I'm an empiricist in Poland who's shown me pretty good stuff. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| How dare you pretend that the people criticizing you didn't have a point? | ||
| They knew who you were before you were ready to admit it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not the best Wacky Wednesday. | ||
| Not too wacky, but... | ||
| Who do we got? | ||
| Who do we got on this episode? | ||
| I mean, we got plugs first, but I'm really trying to, like... | ||
| Anybody in my head that's been mentioned in this episode, I'm struggling. | ||
| I mean, a lot of them didn't kill anybody, but I'll say Andy Edels, who is that language teacher who is complaining about how all the parade in 2017 was a bunch of football hooligans hijacking patriotism. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's fair. | ||
| I would say that Andy Edels probably has never killed anybody. | ||
| All right, well, first I would say that we have a Twitter. | ||
| Right, and a website, knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Knowledgefight.com, and it's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| Then we also have a Facebook. | ||
| We have a group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant. | ||
| You can download us on iTunes, subscribe, leave a review, all of those fun things. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And now that we have already decided who it's going to be. | ||
| The language teacher in Poland has never killed anybody. | ||
| But one guy who technically has, probably technically, is Alex Jones. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |