Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the struggle that Alex Jones is going through these days. Alex feels like Joe Rogan has been really victimizing him lately, and the gents really hate to see someone go through something like that.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Hi, Jordan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Been a while. | ||
| It has been a while. | ||
| How was your vacation? | ||
| It was pretty good. | ||
| I went down to occupied Texas. | ||
| Did you? | ||
| I did. | ||
| I went down to go visit my parents in Austin, Tejas. | ||
| As they say... | ||
| Did not run into Alex. | ||
| Didn't run into any Info Warriors. | ||
| I feel like if you did run into Alex, you guys might touch and then just cancel each other out, like matter and anti-matter. | ||
| I kind of had a realization when I was down there that there's a chance I'll run into him somewhere. | ||
| It is possible. | ||
| I mean, it's very small, but there was a small chance, and I realized he doesn't know what I look like. | ||
| There's a chance you might be arrested by Steven Seagal. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| These things are possible. | ||
| But I realized Alex doesn't know what I look like, so I could get a picture with him. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| I realized I could do that. | ||
| That would be possible. | ||
| Yeah, so I was thinking like, that would be so fun. | ||
| Oh, it's just another bearded weirdo. | ||
| Yeah, so I was thinking about trying to get my parents to take me down to the hike and bike trail or Barton Springs or some of the places he mentions. | ||
| Trying to sneak away. | ||
| But then I remembered that also most of the time that I was there was the time that he was on air. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So there's really no chance unless I bum rush his studio. | ||
| Which you can't do. | ||
| There's guns. | ||
| No, there's definitely guns. | ||
| So I have one complaint to make about the trip. | ||
| As a whole. | ||
| And that is on Tuesday night while we were there. | ||
| I should back up. | ||
| When I arrived, my mom had an idea for something that she wanted to go do. | ||
| Kill a prole. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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It was great. | |
| It is fantastic. | ||
| No. | ||
| What she wanted to do, she had heard about this performance called Acro Cats. | ||
| That's right! | ||
| You texted me. | ||
| I did. | ||
| You were so excited. | ||
| I was. | ||
| I didn't want to know anything about it. | ||
| Yeah, of course not. | ||
| And what she described it as is there are these cats that are trained, and this woman has this only positive reinforcement-based training that she gives them, and then there's a band. | ||
| There's a cat band. | ||
| Already suspicious. | ||
| All parts of this are suspicious. | ||
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Yes. | |
| There's a cat band. | ||
| They play drums. | ||
| I'm like, well, we kind of gotta do it, right? | ||
| If it's bad, it's great. | ||
| If it's great, it's amazing. | ||
| So we decided to do that on Tuesday night, opening night of Acro Cats. | ||
| Opening night! | ||
| Opening night in Austin. | ||
| Did she even do a soft opening? | ||
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I would say this opening was quite soft. | |
| That's kind of what I was thinking. | ||
| I don't want to disparage anybody's life's work or anything like that, but I would say that going to this performance, first of all, two minutes in, I realized we were in deep trouble. | ||
| She comes out, the emcee comes out. | ||
| And she does not have what I would call performance chops. | ||
| Is she the cat trainer? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| There was a sense of... | ||
| How does it not surprise me that a person who spends all of her time training cats does not have a great stage presence? | ||
| Well, you know that feeling you get when an uncertain host comes out at a comedy show? | ||
| And you're like, uh-oh, we're in bad hands. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I had that feeling, and I also looked around the audience. | ||
| It was a lot of children. | ||
| And then there's you. | ||
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Great. | |
| There were a couple of, like, stray adults, like maybe 20-somethings drinking booze. | ||
| Like, there were a couple people who were there clearly for the... | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| And I kind of was there for the novelty of it, too. | ||
| But there was a small part of my brain that thought, this is actually going to be trained cats. | ||
| And it was not. | ||
| No, it was people dressed up like cats? | ||
| No, it was actual cats. | ||
| And they were trained a little bit. | ||
| But her show was kind of supposed to be a demonstration of her training technique, which involves a clicker and then positive reinforcement, like give the cat some chicken or whatever. | ||
| So it wasn't just a... | ||
| Now, I apologize for my mental image. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| The mind reels. | ||
| My mental image is legit. | ||
| A bunch of cats, like, holding instruments and doing shit. | ||
| All together, with no interference. | ||
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They play a full song, and then they stop, and then they play another full song. | |
| We'll get to the band in a minute. | ||
| Maybe there's some banter. | ||
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You know what? | |
| Maybe the cat happens a little bit like, meow, meow. | ||
| You know? | ||
| No. | ||
| This next song is about what I was- How long do you think the show was? | ||
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Five minutes. | |
| Hour and a half. | ||
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No! | |
| Not a chance! | ||
| Too long. | ||
| Too long. | ||
| The first, I would say, hour and ten of it was the cats coming out individually and doing, like, tricks. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So, like, they would jump from one pedestal to another or, like, there was a little shopping cart and the cat would push it. | ||
| Yeah, that's fun. | ||
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That's fun. | |
| Sure. | ||
| It was fine. | ||
| But it was very... | ||
| A lot of it was pretty simple and the sort of thing that you could get a cat to do. | ||
| It was... | ||
| And most... | ||
| Most is tough. | ||
| A lot of the time the cats didn't do what they were supposed to do. | ||
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Yeah, of course! | |
| Of course! | ||
| A lot of the time... | ||
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They're fucking cats! | |
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| It was a demonstration that this stuff is very inconsistent. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there would be like... | ||
| I would say probably at least a quarter... | ||
| 20% to 25% of the time the cats didn't do what the trick was. | ||
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Right. | |
| And then they played it off as like... | ||
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And then the band happened. | |
| How did it go? | ||
| Nothing could have prepared me for how disappointing it was. | ||
| I really don't know how that's possible. | ||
| There was a piano, and that was the closest to working. | ||
| Because it was a little piano, and all it had to do was press on things. | ||
| Yeah, we've seen a cat play piano before, many times. | ||
| It was close to okay. | ||
| Then there was a drum set, and all it was was two drumsticks that were set up, and if a cat pressed the drumsticks, it would make drum noises. | ||
| That cat didn't do any of that drumming. | ||
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None of it. | |
| The cat didn't do anything. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Then there was a guitar, and the cat just had to sort of put its arm over one of its paws. | ||
| God, it was so bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did any music occur? | ||
| There was noises. | ||
| There were noises? | ||
| There was a saxophone. | ||
| There was a saxophone! | ||
| And a trumpet. | ||
| No shit! | ||
| There was a trumpet? | ||
| They were tiny plastic instruments. | ||
| That the cat handlers were sitting around and, like, spraying sauce on or whatever, so the cats would put their mouths on the mouthpiece, and then it would just automatically play trumpets. | ||
| It was unbelievably bad. | ||
| I resented it. | ||
| I am murdering myself for not having like 10 million cat puns centered around Charlie Parker and Miles Davis right now. | ||
| It's the bird. | ||
| It's gotta happen. | ||
| Birdman. | ||
| I can't think of anything. | ||
| So, yeah, it was a mess. | ||
| Calico Parker? | ||
| I found out on Wednesday morning, like before I went to the airport, that my mom's friend also was there. | ||
| She also went to this AcroCats and pressed for more details. | ||
| I learned that my mom's friend loved it. | ||
| Thought it was funny. | ||
| And that she had gone last year and came back. | ||
| I thought you said that it was the inauguration. | ||
| No, it was opening night of the tour. | ||
| Oh, of the tour. | ||
| I don't even know if it's opening night for the tour, just opening night in Austin. | ||
| Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. | ||
| We've talked about this too much, but it really blew my mind. | ||
| I really don't think that's possible. | ||
| I was so surprised by how disappointed I could be. | ||
| That was really what I felt like. | ||
| I went in with real low expectations, but a great imagination of what could be. | ||
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Yeah, of course. | |
| And I was still woefully disappointed by what I saw in front of me. | ||
| No, even in my head right now, knowing what it is, I still kind of imagine that a cat was capable of holding a couple of drumsticks and sitting on the stool, getting some kick pedal action going. | ||
| I can see it in my mind, even though I know it is in no way possible. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because you're thinking of, like, Bill the Cat. | ||
| I could be. | ||
| I could be. | ||
| And I would have rather seen that. | ||
| Yeah, hell yeah. | ||
| I would have rather just read those comic strips. | ||
| So anyway, this is a show where I know a lot about acro cats. | ||
| And I have just found out more than I could ever have imagined about acro cats. | ||
| I know a lot about Alex Jones, too. | ||
| And I don't know anything but what you tell me. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we are going to be in the present day. | ||
| You know, it's a little bit tough to get sea legs back, get back into the rhythm of this after having been out of town. | ||
| But I think there's something really interesting going on with Alex right now. | ||
| And we're going to be talking about a little bit of it between... | ||
| February 5th and 6th, 2019. | ||
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | |
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark! | ||
| Thank you, Charlie. | ||
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| Now, Jordan, so, look. | ||
| I don't know if I should lay out my premise ahead of time or let it develop. | ||
| I'm not sure, so I'm just going to get into this. | ||
| I'm just going to go ahead and... | ||
| Do what feels natural to you. | ||
| Okay, I'm going to play an out-of-context drop. | ||
| Pretend you're like a cat learning how to play the drums for the first time. | ||
| I am going to be the Neil Peart of cats. | ||
| And I play you an out-of-context... | ||
| Neil Peart! | ||
| There you go. | ||
| You found the puns. | ||
| There's the pun! | ||
| Here's an out-of-context drop from today's show. | ||
| Jeff Bezos, the richest man in the world, not. | ||
| Nice. | ||
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What? | |
| Get his ass. | ||
| Alright, yeah, you got him. | ||
| The richest man in the world, not. | ||
| Nobody's even giving me his liquid assets, huh? | ||
| How about that? | ||
| That is a large part of what he's nodding him about. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| God, that's stupid. | ||
| So, let's start on the fifth, and we will let this develop as it goes. | ||
| The first clip that I have here is... | ||
| So, it turns out... | ||
| Remember how we were really pumped that Alex Jones was going to let David Knight... | ||
| Have some time off to heal from that terrible heart attack he had? | ||
| He brought him back too soon, huh? | ||
| Oh man, he's back already. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| And Alex has an interesting solution to David Knight's being overworked and having a heart attack. | ||
| We've chained him to his chair! | ||
| No, he just tells him, stop trying. | ||
| Expanding on that, you just really need to take care of yourself because I know good and damn well that for a three-hour show you prepare for... | ||
| Three, four hours here and a couple hours at night. | ||
| Can't possibly be true. | ||
| I mean, I hate to tell it's the illustrious, but you just can't prepare double for what you do on air because you get so focused on, like you're preparing for a State of the Union every day. | ||
| You just, I'm not saying mail it in, but you've got to find a halfway mark there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I agree. | ||
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I agree. | |
| I prepare way more than double for the time that we're on air. | ||
| I feel like this is a cop-out and they're not serious about what they're doing. | ||
| Dan, I'm not saying mail it in. | ||
| But you should be really close to the edge of mailing it in. | ||
| That's where I think is a good place to be. | ||
| I consider what I do already kind of mailing it in. | ||
| I know. | ||
| There's more work I could be doing. | ||
| And you're killing yourself. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| I'm really large. | ||
| I want you a cat show. | ||
| So the two of them have this conversation. | ||
| And Alex talks about how he has the demographic information about David Knight's listeners. | ||
| And Alex means... | ||
| Old. | ||
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Old. | |
| White. | ||
| Hey, now. | ||
| Old and white. | ||
| That's all in forward shows. | ||
| White and old. | ||
| That's all of them. | ||
| The Venn diagram is old and white. | ||
| He's going to say something complimentary about David Knight's listenership, but in actuality, if you listen to it, it's actually an insult about Alex's own audience that Alex doesn't realize he's insulting his listeners. | ||
| Play a few video clips. | ||
| Do some red meat political stuff. | ||
| I mean, you've got... | ||
| Because we've got the demographics that come in. | ||
| We can see it on all the analytics. | ||
| You've got the high-end engineer type, astronaut type, rich people, smart people are listening to you because they know, wow, this guy actually did research. | ||
| And that's great. | ||
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That's great! | |
| It does seem to imply that my show's not getting those people. | ||
| They know you did research, whereas my listenership, they know I didn't. | ||
| That does seem to imply that me and Owen Troyer, we don't do shit. | ||
| You prepare a lot, that's why you had a fucking heart attack. | ||
| Slow down. | ||
| It's gotta be a lot of stress. | ||
| Does this conversation need to be happening on air? | ||
| Certainly doesn't. | ||
| I can't believe how many, as often as it happens, I still can't believe how many production meetings we have on air. | ||
| But one of the reasons that it is happening on air is Alex is dealing with a lot of shit right now. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| And, you know, whether it be the Sandy Hook lawsuit, the other lawsuits, him getting kicked off these dummy pages on Facebook that he had. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, like, he has to find ways to spend these things. | ||
| He's seeing, like, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez doing really well. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| In her beginning time in the House, people are responding quite well to her and her being very effective. | ||
| That scares the shit out of him. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| You know, he has Roger Stone's trouble to deal with and his sort of lack of interest in being his sugar daddy, for lack of a better term, I guess. | ||
| He has his waning feelings about Trump that he has to... | ||
| You know, dance delicately around, especially with the State of the Union being on this evening of this episode here from February 5th. | ||
| So he's got a lot. | ||
| He has a lot going on. | ||
| And he needs David Knight. | ||
| He needs a saw, like, a puff piece. | ||
| When he's telling David Knight to play a video or do red meat political stuff, this is his version of that. | ||
| This is Alex's, like, do something that's taking it easy. | ||
| Have David Knight in. | ||
| Everyone's thrilled to see him. | ||
| You guys could just have a jovial conversation about how he's great and works a lot. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| It's low stakes. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Because what we're about to get into is on top of all of that other stuff that Alex is wrestling with, there's something else that's going on in his life. | ||
| Something stuck in his craw? | ||
| Yeah, you bet. | ||
| But before we get to that... | ||
| He has these announcers that talk over his musical interludes. | ||
| Sometimes they're like, he fights against corruption. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| And one of them made a big announcement that I didn't know. | ||
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Coming to you live from the Infowars.com studios in the recaptured state of Texas, it's Alex Jones. | |
| At some point, Texas got recaptured. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They recaptured? | ||
| They recaptured Texas? | ||
| It's no longer occupied. | ||
| Wait, how did that go? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Wait, what happened? | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| Was there a war we missed? | ||
| It might have been like Beto losing. | ||
| That could have been it. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But then that's just the status quo remaining the same or more Democratic lower tier positions. | ||
| Recaptured. | ||
| Down the ballot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| But at some point between... | ||
| I guess the last year it's no longer occupied Texas. | ||
| It is recaptured. | ||
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It's fun. | |
| I would like to know, first, what their definition of capture is. | ||
| What the first capture of Texas was. | ||
| And does it matter if the Spanish were involved? | ||
| When I was in Texas, I tried to find Colonel Travis's grave. | ||
| It turns out it's in San Antonio, so I couldn't make it to that. | ||
| I did go to the State House, and I found a sort of memorial statue that they have to those who were lost at the Alamo. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And there's a big tribute to Colonel Travis, and I have a picture of myself giving it the finger. | ||
| Man, there's some crazy racist statues at the Austin courthouse. | ||
| Yeah, that's not a surprise to me. | ||
| Or not the courthouse, at the State House. | ||
| It is nuts. | ||
| There's like an entire one to the Confederate dead. | ||
| And, like, on the plaque, it's right in front of the statehouse. | ||
| It is talking, like, it's War of Northern Aggression stuff. | ||
| No! | ||
| The Lost Cause kind of language. | ||
| On the statue. | ||
| It's a giant statue. | ||
| It is nuts. | ||
| And then there's another statue. | ||
| If you walk a little bit ways over, there's a statue memorializing, like, Jefferson Davis. | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
| You gotta give it up to him. | ||
| You gotta give it up to the Somali pirates and the fucking people who fought to make sure that we still get to own people. | ||
| There's a big logo on that statue, too, even that says CSA, really stylized. | ||
| My mom was like, I saw that, I didn't know what it was. | ||
| I'm like, Confederate States of America! | ||
| Caucasian slave assholes. | ||
| Yeah, like, that's nuts that that stuff is there. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| Brutal. | ||
| But anyway, I missed out on seeing Donald Trump's grave, but... | ||
| America's grave. | ||
| So, anyway, it's been recaptured. | ||
| Texas is cool now, I guess. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Good job, guys. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, we're going to jump in. | ||
| I assume Mexico owns it, then? | ||
| Yeah, it must be. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, in this next clip, we're going to jump into what we're going to be talking about on this episode. | ||
| And there's more to this than even the clips that I have. | ||
| And we can discuss that as it goes along. | ||
| If I were to pull all the clips that would be relevant to this episode, it would be a two-day long episode, quite frankly. | ||
| But here is Alex introducing the theme. | ||
| You can run, run, run. | ||
| Run, run, run. | ||
| But you can't get away for your date with Destiny JoJo. | ||
| Joe Rogan, metaphysically, is a Christmas hog. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And I'm going to politically haul him up by his back legs and slit his throat. | ||
| His blood will fill buckets. | ||
| Politically, not violently. | ||
| Get ready, Joe. | ||
| So, Alex has turned heel on Joe Rogan. | ||
| We're fighting. | ||
| We're fighting with Joe. | ||
| He's going to politically slit his throat and have his blood fill buckets. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I was really hoping he had gone to the second night of Acro Cats and we were just going to be talking Acro Cats all night. | ||
| That would have been amazing. | ||
| That would have been amazing. | ||
| What if he had? | ||
| It's so disappointing that we're now just angry at Joe Rogan. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| It's kind of disappointing. | ||
| But there's something interesting going on here. | ||
| And I have a larger theory about what's going on and why everyone... | ||
| There's an irony that we're going to be doing an episode here about how everyone should ignore this. | ||
| There is a slight irony to that, but I think it's important because I think it's a teaching moment. | ||
| And this is when you just end record and we're just done. | ||
| No, I mean, everyone should listen. | ||
| And in Kansas. | ||
| We're going to have fun on our episode, but I think that people like a Joe Rogan or Howard Stern also is in the mix on this. | ||
| Sure, why not? | ||
| Throw them all in there. | ||
| They need to not respond to this sort of thing. | ||
| And everybody out there, you need to stop. | ||
| I'm not going to tell you how to live your lives, but a wise decision would be to not... | ||
| Help, like, pump this up like it's a pay-per-view fight. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Because the only person who benefits from that is Alex, and that's why he's doing this. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| So, I want to talk a little bit about Alex and Joe Rogan and how they got to this point. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Now, we know that they've been friends since, like, 1998 or so. | ||
| They met back in Austin, and the two of them thought each other were crazy and just like, hey, you're fun, whatever. | ||
| You know, in 2009, Joe Rogan was featured in the Obama Deception. | ||
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Right. | |
| He was interviewed for that, and he's been a guest on Alex's show for a super long time. | ||
| They're good drinking buddies. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, they like to drink. | ||
| And take drugs. | ||
| Hell yeah! | ||
| Once a year. | ||
| About two years ago. | ||
| Joe Rogan had Alex on episode 9-11 of his podcast, which we went over. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| One of our early episodes. | ||
| And Alex got drunk on apple juice and smoked weed and acted like a complete dum-dum. | ||
| So that's where their relationship was going well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But since then, since that time that Alex was a guest on Rogan's podcast, things have gotten weird between the two of them. | ||
| This is like a behind-the-music episode right now. | ||
| Not really, because I don't understand everything, but I can tell you some of the broad strokes of how this went bad. | ||
| So, through all of that, all the time that things were getting weird from about two years ago when he was on his show till now, Rogan has consistently taken the high road, bending over backwards to give Alex a very generous public defense, even for things that Alex didn't deserve to be depended for. | ||
| Over the years, Rogan has thrown in little critiques of Alex's bullshit, but it's generally couched in a, isn't this guy so fun and crazy kind of way? | ||
| It's like a presentation of criticism that never really rises above good-natured ribbing, and really just serves to help Alex's bottom line. | ||
| It's basically free press for him. | ||
| So Alex has always been really, for the most part, really fine with it. | ||
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For sure. | |
| Where things started to heat up was on episode 1131 of Rogan's podcast with Dave Rubin. | ||
| It was released in June 2018. | ||
| On that episode, Joe talked about his relationship with Alex. | ||
| He discusses how much he likes Alex, but how wrong he is about a lot of things. | ||
| This conversation was started by discussing Alex's claims that Anthony Bourdain was killed by Hillary's people and how offensive that sort of thing was. | ||
| Rogan talks at length about how Alex is also right about a lot of the stuff that he talks about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| earlier times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And how he turned him on to a lot of stuff that was actually true. | |
| About like... | ||
| The thing that he always brings up is the idea of, like, police infiltrating peaceful protests in order to turn them violent. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The ancient provocateur stuff. | ||
| Cheney flew Flight 63. Yes, absolutely. | ||
| So he talks about that a lot. | ||
| He gives him a lot of credibility, even within this discussion of how he's wrong about a lot of things. | ||
| But he's also, you know, it's important to point out, he says that a number of the things that he claims aren't real. | ||
| And one of those things is the idea that George Soros is a Nazi. | ||
| Alex didn't like this, so he took to the air right after this episode came out to call out Joe Rogan. | ||
| He did his normal shtick, claiming that Soros thinks he's the Messiah, and that he had the best time of his life rounding up Jews in the Holocaust. | ||
| Alex insists that Joe knows all this stuff is true, because Alex knows that he's told Joe these things, and that Joe is just defending George Soros, even though he knows that he was a Nazi collaborator, because Alex told him so. | ||
| Alex seems to think it's unfathomable that Joe just doesn't believe him, or that he might have looked into it and found out that Alex was just making shit up. | ||
| So, then, in July 2018, you may recall that Alex was predicting that a second American Civil War was going to break out on Independence Day. | ||
| On that 4th of July, Rogan recorded episode 1140 of his podcast with Joey Diaz as the guest. | ||
| In the episode, he laments that Alex has been saying that he's working with the deep state and is a Soros apologist just because he doesn't agree with Alex about the Nazi shit. | ||
| Rogan keeps talking about how much he loves Alex and wishing that he would just calm down. | ||
| On the same episode, Joey Diaz is clearly joking about Joe being in the CIA and talking about how he played pranks on Eddie Bravo by telling him shit about Rogan. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Alex, I'm not saying mail it in. | ||
| But find a middle ground between how angry you are and where you are now. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Also, Joey Diaz is clearly high out of his mind eating Chiba Chews. | ||
| That sounds like Joey. | ||
| But from there, after this point, when Joe talks about it again on the air, things kind of de-escalate. | ||
| And from everything I can tell from both of their versions of the story, they were in communication privately. | ||
| My gut tells me that Joe is able to talk Alex off the ledge and be like, come on, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But I don't know. | ||
| Who knows what was actually happening? | ||
| He sent a text that was like, come on, man. | ||
| And Alex was like, yeah, you know. | ||
| Yeah, whatever. | ||
| Then, on January 10th, 2019, Alex decided to get real serious with his former friend. | ||
| He was introducing Owen Benjamin, the painfully unfunny comedian turned fourth hour host of InfoWars. | ||
| He was introducing him for his segment and decided it was time for him to attack. | ||
| He was getting fed up that Joe kept, quote, reading off George Soros' talking points without ever specifying what those talking points are, without ever demonstrating that these alleged talking points are even real, without establishing any of his claims. | ||
| He just launched into a screed of vaguely accusing Rogan of being a puppet of the CIA, working as a modern day Timothy Leary. | ||
| To destroy the minds of the youth with drugs. | ||
| DMT. | ||
| That stuff. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| It's a strange position for a professed libertarian to express, but whatever. | ||
| Drugs are illegal, but I think they should be illegal. | ||
| Now, one of the important things to consider is that Owen Benjamin has only fairly recently become an employee of InfoWars. | ||
| And another important thing to consider is that Owen Benjamin hates Joe Rogan. | ||
| You see, Owen Benjamin was what you might call an early associate of a lot of the members of the intellectual dark web, but no one really cared when he got kicked off Twitter for harassing David Hogg after the Parkland shooting. | ||
| His status plummeted even within his own community, and when the dumb fuck article that Yeah, yeah, yeah Owen kind of lost his shit. | ||
| He started making videos about how members of the IDW told him that him being kicked off Twitter, after that, he was no good for their brand to be associated with. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| So he started doing all this stuff, attacking them very publicly. | ||
| Joe Rogan considers him the ringleader and the glue of all these groups. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But above him is Sam Harris. | ||
| Sure, why not? | ||
| And all that stuff. | ||
| Throw him in there. | ||
| Yeah, he was bitter as fuck, and he began this crusade on calling these people out because he had an intense need to be the victim of the situation that they had foist him into, which made him a perfect InfoWars personality candidate. | ||
| So his transition to InfoWars makes total sense. | ||
| I can't prove anything, but I definitely find it interesting that Alex's big turn on Rogan is happening while Owen Benjamin is being introduced for his fourth hour segment, fairly soon after he begins working there. | ||
| Could be a coincidence, or it could be this dude... | ||
| on Alex had pushed him over the ledge on his erstwhile friend. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| Oh, and Benjamin's a piece of shit. | ||
| But that attack on January 10th wasn't anything that moved the needle for me. | ||
| It sounded like any other time that Alex has talked shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was a little bit more like, this seems weird. | ||
| You seem a little bit angrier than normal, but not much more. | ||
| You know, it's just he pretends to know something damaging. | ||
| He talks in circles for a bunch and then never demonstrates anything. | ||
| It feels like a big who gives a fuck. | ||
| But then, in episode 1238 of his podcast, with guest Brian Redban, from February 4th of this year, Joe discusses how Alex is in a bad place, and that he still cares about him, but that Alex had lied to him. | ||
| He talked about how Alex was lying to him about what he'd said in the past about Sandy Hook, and that Joe had seen all the videos. | ||
| Of Alex saying that it was fake. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| When Alex's position and what Joe allowed him to say on the show was that we just had debates. | ||
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That sort of thing. | |
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| So he was talking about, like, he's just making stuff up, and I can't abide by that. | ||
| He talked about how Alex believed dumb bullshit about Rogan being threatened into not talking about conspiracies, and how that was all a prank that they played on Eddie Bravo. | ||
| Joey Diaz told Eddie Bravo all this stuff, and was like, hey, Eddie believes it, and Eddie told Alex. | ||
| Oh, goddammit. | ||
| So there's this whole thing of, like, Alex is reporting information coming from Eddie Bravo based on a Joey Diaz chibachu prank. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So you got that. | ||
| Fucking Eddie Bravo, you believe too much? | ||
| Too much. | ||
| But through it all, Joe was still talking about how right Alex is about some things. | ||
| Some of those similar things from way back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he was approaching the situation from a position of being a friend. | ||
| It was, basically, you could sum it up by saying, like, you need to stop making things up, but I still love you, and I would be on your show, and if I saw you, I'd give you a hug. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| It's a very complicated thing, and he's talking about how complicated it is for him. | ||
| Because he knows that everybody looks at Alex and, like, this guy's a fucking monster, he's a liar and all this shit. | ||
| He's like, I know him, I've known him for a really long time. | ||
| He is making stuff up. | ||
| If you stop doing that, everything will be fine. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| I kind of have a similar position that, like... | ||
| All the trouble that Alex is in with all these lawsuits and all that shit, it wouldn't be there if he didn't slander people. | ||
| Like, all of that stuff. | ||
| Yeah, it's a little bit like saying, you know what? | ||
| You wouldn't be on trial for murder if you hadn't murdered that guy, man. | ||
| Look, I love you. | ||
| You're a good dude. | ||
| You shouldn't have murdered that guy, though. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| You can't live your life constantly going through it and being like, everything negative about me is fake. | ||
| You just can't. | ||
| And that's how Alex is operating. | ||
| Yeah, what are you, OJ? | ||
| I think Joe is tapping into a little bit of that. | ||
| Or at least seeing a little bit. | ||
| Now granted, I want to say I'm not fucking a fan of Joe Rogan's naive, gullible bullshit on his podcast at all. | ||
| But he does have moments of decency and moments of like... | ||
| Not falling into traps. | ||
| Great on news radio. | ||
| Wonderful on news radio. | ||
| And Fear Factor was pretty fun. | ||
| At points. | ||
| So the point is, that was on the 4th, the episode with Brian Redband. | ||
| And the episode that we're listening to is the 5th. | ||
| It's the next day. | ||
| And Alex is pissed about this. | ||
| He is pissed because... | ||
| Well, quite frankly, I have a number of theories. | ||
| One is Owen Benjamin. | ||
| I think that's a piece of it. | ||
| Because he's on the warpath against Rogan. | ||
| And all the people in the IDW. | ||
| The intellectual dark web. | ||
| He wants to take all of them down. | ||
| Now he has Alex on his side. | ||
| It would be very easy to be like, hey, here's a good thing to do. | ||
| Now, if I were to write this as a plan, I would be Owen Benjamin and I would say, hey, Alex, look. | ||
| You aren't allowed on social media. | ||
| You aren't allowed on all of these platforms, but you know who is? | ||
| Joe Rogan. | ||
| Start a fight with him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Start a fight with him. | ||
| It'll get so much publicity. | ||
| Because then people are going to share all of your stuff all over these social media platforms. | ||
| And Rogan will be talking about the attacks that you make on him. | ||
| If you lure him into an actual fight, it will be so good. | ||
| And then you could also appeal to Alex's ego by being like, you could take him. | ||
| Like, not in a physical fight. | ||
| No, absolutely. | ||
| You could take him in the info whore. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You could have another info scalp on your wall or whatever. | ||
| You know? | ||
| So, like, I think... | ||
| I get the sense. | ||
| I get the strong sense that this is, like, the motivation behind it. | ||
| Yeah, it has to be. | ||
| Alex probably feels some personal betrayal because it's really hard to hear someone be like, I care about you, but... | ||
| I know for a fact you've been lying to me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's hard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because the only response to that really is like, I have been lying to you. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Let's make it right. | ||
| Or, fuck you. | ||
| You're a globalist. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep, pretty much. | ||
| Alex tends to choose the latter path. | ||
| Psychopaths usually don't react well to criticism. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| And so... | ||
| I think that this is what's going on. | ||
| And one of the further things that makes me believe that, we don't have any clips from this, but from what I understand, I didn't listen to a bunch of this, but so Howard Stern has been having an Alex Jones impersonator come on his show and they make fun of him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And so Alex started to try and attack Howard Stern. | ||
| And I think it's the same strategy. | ||
| I think it's the same thing. | ||
| Howard's got a huge audience. | ||
| I attack him. | ||
| That will give me access to his audience. | ||
| Maybe if I do it well enough, he'll invite me on so we can argue. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| That'll be great for the brand. | ||
| I can't get new people in otherwise. | ||
| And here's the important thing. | ||
| I know I'm giving speech almost like this is the end of the episode already. | ||
| But Alex's business model relies on there being more inflow than outflow. | ||
| But he knows that there's going to be both. | ||
| He knows that there's going to be people that he can seduce into his worldview, his overly simplistic and crypto-bigoted worldview, because of the allure of the mystery of it, and that sort of forbidden knowledge. | ||
| He knows that he can always get people in the door if people have access to his things. | ||
| He also knows that not everyone's staying around. | ||
| People are going to get disenchanted. | ||
| They're going to start looking into things that he... | ||
| At least some portion of them are. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So he needs there to be more inflow than outflow. | ||
| And everything was fine from a business model perspective when he was allowed on everything. | ||
| And now he's not. | ||
| That's why his numbers are down is because the rate of people leaving him has stayed consistent. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the rate of people coming in has gone down. | ||
| Solution to that. | ||
| Find more ways to get people in. | ||
| You could do almost no better than co-opting Joe Rogan and Howard Stern, especially if you do it simultaneously. | ||
| Pretty much. | ||
| So I think that's the strategy that's going on. | ||
| Sorry about the little bit of a rant there, but I think it's a pathetic and very sad situation. | ||
| It's the only thing that makes sense for him to do. | ||
| And I mean, if I was writing out a business plan, it's like, okay, so I attack Joe Rogan and Howard Stern. | ||
| And I turn a shit ton of people off to me. | ||
| But if one out of every thousand listeners that they have fucking just looks into it and is like, man, I think this Alex Jones guy is interesting. | ||
| That's a million people or 100,000 people, which he needs desperately. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And he realizes he can't get access to any other way. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So that's a big part of it. | ||
| And, I don't know, I think that the reason that I want to focus on the Rogan one more than the Howard Stern one is, I'm not a big Stern guy, and I think that there's, I have a lot of difficulties with him that I don't want to unpack. | ||
| Rogan is more familiar to our show, and there's much more personal stuff there. | ||
| Like, Alex and Rogan have much more of a personal relationship, and it makes it grosser, because I've watched the videos of Rogan talking about him. | ||
| They come from a place of humanity. | ||
| They come from a place of him being a friend. | ||
| Like, he's talking to a guy he doesn't want to say terrible things about. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then so to hear what Alex ends up saying about Rogan, it makes it awful. | ||
| Like, it's a really heart-wrenching kind of, like, a display of inhumanity on Alex's part. | ||
| And I think it's important to look at. | ||
| Yeah, but that's because Alex is inhuman. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, like, that's part of being a psychopath, is you're willing to shed these relationships whenever it becomes expedient for you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, I mean, you know, you got one guy saying, hey, I like this guy a lot. | ||
| He's a friend. | ||
| And, you know, when we're together, he's my friend. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he's lying about certain things, and I wish you would stop doing that. | ||
| And then your response is, I'm going to hang him up by the legs and politically slit his throat. | ||
| It's not a good reaction. | ||
| That is a very similar reaction to what the American Psycho's reaction would be. | ||
| It makes the most sense as a strategic business decision. | ||
| And so here in this next clip, Alex sort of gives a little bit of a speech about how we're marching to Valhalla. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That sounds fun. | ||
| It should indicate what kind of mood he's in after he talks about slitting Rogan's throat. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| I already told you globalists and all you minions of the system a long time ago. | ||
| I'm afraid of God. | ||
| When I'm not fighting you, I feel scared. | ||
| When I'm fighting you, I see God smiling in the center of my soul. | ||
| Right in my heart. | ||
| I know the wind is filling my sails and I'm on a journey where I'm supposed to go. | ||
| I'm on the path of my ancestors. | ||
| You know that's a cat on drums? | ||
| A path beyond stars. | ||
| A path to Valhalla. | ||
| And that's why I do this. | ||
| Because to not do it is to lose the soul. | ||
| And you've all chosen your lot with the devil. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And I've chosen that I must take you on. | ||
| It'll be this contest that defines us. | ||
| It'll be these wars, these fights that make us who we are. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Once we stop fearing the devil and start taking the devil on is the day we start living. | ||
| And then you see the horizon. | ||
| You realize God's in control. | ||
| And the bluff's got to be called. | ||
| The enemy's got to be engaged. | ||
| Bone's got to meet bone. | ||
| Sword's got to meet shield. | ||
| The axe has got to come down on that skull. | ||
| And in the end, we'll see heaven. | ||
| Okay, alright. | ||
| That is a not good mood. | ||
| Is that a direct quote from Friday Night Lights? | ||
| Swing an axe, bone on bone, can't lose. | ||
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Can't lose. | |
| You never like to see a guy in this kind of state. | ||
| I'm going to be honest with you, that song is a lot better with Alex Jones giving apocalyptic rants over it. | ||
| I mean, anytime you're in that mood at noon, that's a weird day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this next clip, he just talks more about how he's going to politically slit Rogan's throat. | ||
| I don't take any pleasure in this, but it's kind of like when you are slitting a hog's throat. | ||
| It's squealing. | ||
| It's up by its legs. | ||
| It's better to get the blood out. | ||
| And you don't want to hurt an animal. | ||
| It has to be cautious. | ||
| When you've got to get in there, just get it done quick. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So I need to get on to that Joe Rogan piece of the show. | ||
| Because Joe Rogan is a freaking hog. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Ouch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And this, I need to drive home. | ||
| If you listen to the stuff on Rogan's show, it's not scathing. | ||
| It's very soft. | ||
| It is a friend struggling with his friendship. | ||
| It's emotionally resonant. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To the point where, you know, like I keep saying, he's like, I like this guy. | ||
| If we're together, we're friends, I would give him a hug. | ||
| Alex responds to that in the most inhuman way. | ||
| He just makes fun of the idea that Rogan's trying to treat him like a person. | ||
| Oh, I loved Joe yesterday. | ||
| Alex, I still want to be your friend. | ||
| Oh, Joe, please be my friend. | ||
| I've never taken anybody on before, Joe. | ||
| I'm so scared right now. | ||
| You're so tough. | ||
| You have a bald head and big muscles and take all that growth hormone and steroids. | ||
| I'm so scared right now, Joe. | ||
| Please don't hurt me. | ||
| Help me. | ||
| I'm weak. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm digressing. | ||
| A bit. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, that's weird. | ||
| That's a bummer. | ||
| Because Joe's not threatening him in any way. | ||
| No. | ||
| If anything, it's the opposite of threatening. | ||
| But Alex takes it as a threat. | ||
| Which is strange. | ||
| Well, the threat is, like, Alex has to admit that he's capable of having emotions, and he's not the... | ||
| Because in this situation, that absolutely for him would come off as a threat, because Joe is presenting himself as the... | ||
| Person taking the high road. | ||
| The person who cares. | ||
| The person who... | ||
| I'm not sure if he's presenting himself as that. | ||
| It seems like he is. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| In Alex's form of fame. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Which puts him at a higher level than him. | ||
| It is paternal. | ||
| Joe saying all of this stuff is like you talking to your... | ||
| You could say it's you talking to your friend who's lost his way, but if you're Alex, you could hear it as this is a prodigal son. | ||
| I'm the guy who's lost his way? | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| You're a piece of shit! | ||
| Like that kind of thing. | ||
| Yeah, I could see that. | ||
| Because there are some parts of Rogan's other comments that were like... | ||
| When you hear Alex talking about some of this stuff, some of these people drinking adrenochrome and stuff like that, he's like, this is not the guy I knew. | ||
| He's going through some shit. | ||
| He's in a bad place. | ||
| Yeah, I could see that. | ||
| I could see Alex could be threatened by the idea that his entire primary brand right now isn't... | ||
| Like, someone who actually knows him is pointing out, like, you have shifted entirely from what you used to be. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Which is not what you want to hear either. | ||
| No. | ||
| And I guess you could respond to that with some anger. | ||
| Especially if you were a psychopath. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex makes a direct accusation against Joe that, I don't know, might be true. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I gotta move on to Joe Rogan. | ||
| Gotta move on to him. | ||
| He puts cheese on toast! | ||
| Because he's really asking for it. | ||
| Oh, Joe, you think you're already getting hit hard right now? | ||
| Oh, just wait. | ||
| Maybe you get those Italian guys in Vegas to do something for you, Joe. | ||
| I'm so scared of them, too. | ||
| So, anyways. | ||
| He is making implications, and he does throughout, that the people behind the UFC are in the mob, or something along those lines. | ||
| And that Rogan has mob ties in Vegas. | ||
| Yeah, that doesn't sound... | ||
| Implausible. | ||
| It's not beyond the veil of possibility. | ||
| Yeah, that kind of actually makes a lot of sense. | ||
| I would buy that. | ||
| His only other sort of direct accusations are based on... | ||
| So, Jack Dorsey from Twitter was on Rogan's show. | ||
| And the question came up of why Alex was banned from Twitter. | ||
| And Dorsey said, I don't know. | ||
| And people are offended by that on some level. | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| No, but I honestly, I think he should know by now, but the idea that he wasn't directly involved in that, I would believe that as a possibility. | ||
| I think it's also possible where he's like, of course I don't know why he's banned. | ||
| I'm letting somebody who's way worse than him run Twitter right now. | ||
| Look, if he legitimately asked Jack, he was like, okay. | ||
| What were the reasons that Alex was banned? | ||
| And Jack responded with the actual reasons? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then the next thing that you say, like for Jack, the smartest thing to say is I don't know. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because if he responded with actual reasons, Joe goes, okay, Trump did that. | ||
| Trump did that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| What are your reasons, then? | ||
| You do enter a conversation you can't have. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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| Of course I don't know is the correct answer. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I also believe it's possibly accurate. | ||
| It's also possibly accurate. | ||
| The idea that the CEO of a company doesn't know about operational day-to-day stuff, I believe that 100%. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, I worked at Groupon. | ||
| Eric Lefkowski didn't know shit about what was going on in any, like, sort of tendril of the company. | ||
| See, you weren't there on the day he was filming the episode for Undercover Boss. | ||
| I mean, I met him a couple times. | ||
| He always seemed a little bit aloof. | ||
| But wore casual clothes. | ||
| Anyway, when I was going over the billionaires list, or the top 400 billionaires, he was on there. | ||
| I was like, motherfucker. | ||
| Yeah, kill him. | ||
| I've been in the same room as you, you billionaire son of a bitch. | ||
| So, my feeling on this... | ||
| Oh, so he had Dorsey on, and that sort of irked Alex, understandably. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But also, on that episode, Alex claims that Rogan didn't disclose that Dorsey is financially involved with one of his sponsors, which is Cash App. | ||
| And Rogan says he did disclose that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I know that from other clips I've seen of Rogan talking about... | ||
| Like Cash App comes up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And a reasonable person would assume... | ||
| That, like, from their conversations, that Dorsey and Twitter is, like, financially involved with it. | ||
| I don't think that it's as nearly as shady as a lot of the stuff Alex has done. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. | ||
| In terms of, like, having his sponsors as guests and often not mentioning that they're the sponsors. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| And stuff like that. | ||
| Back in the day, that's Alex's primary business model for years. | ||
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| Was having my guests as, or my sponsors as guests. | ||
| Bob Chapman's entire existence on the show was basically predicated on that. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| So that criticism falls on deaf ears. | ||
| Joe might have... | ||
| He let a motherfucker read limericks to him! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Joe might have, like, what is it? | ||
| A splinter in his eye, but Alex has a plank, or whatever. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But, you know, both the fine criticisms. | ||
| The proof of the splinter is in the plank. | ||
| In the eating of the eyeball. | ||
| So the other criticism that Alex has is that Joe is involved in pump-and-dump schemes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And... | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I love it when two people that I don't like fight, and they reveal information where I'm like, sure, fine, go for it. | ||
| You're a piece of shit. | ||
| I agree on all fronts. | ||
| I know with a reasonable amount of certainty, which I probably couldn't prove in a court of law, but I have very good reason to believe that a number of Joe's guests over the years, especially the ones who really heavily promote Bitcoin, were probably involved in some pump and dump. | ||
| That's the entirety of Bitcoin. | ||
| That's most of cryptocurrency. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| A lot of it is these people scamming folks. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I don't know if Joe was involved. | ||
| I don't know if he got any money out of it. | ||
| But he definitely was involved in elevating some of these people who were probably in the middle of those operations. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| So he is complicit in some sense, whether it was intentional or not. | ||
| So that criticism is fine. | ||
| But I also still don't think it merits any of this. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| I think that there is a different way to do this. | ||
| I think that Alex is really just trying to lure Rogan into a protracted media battle where he can get the better of him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| This is professional wrestling for sure. | ||
| Yeah, it appears to be. | ||
| So in this next clip... | ||
| This is a job, man. | ||
| Before he gets to Rogan, he keeps saying, I'm going to get to him. | ||
| But before he gets to him, he breaks down this other guy. | ||
| I guess it's that Big Think, that thing. | ||
| Post videos around and stuff like that, blogs and shit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Anyway, there's this British guy whose name I can't remember, but Alex keeps saying it's Anus. | ||
| I think it's Enus. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Alex is saying that this dude is saying that Alex is threatening to kill the families of victims of shootings and stuff like that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But really, the conversation this guy is having is about, like, what do you do with obviously bad... | ||
| Like, what do you do with that? | ||
| And so he uses Alex as one example and then says, and... | ||
| The sort of people who threaten the families of victims of stuff like that. | ||
| He's not saying that Alex is one of them, but he intentionally misrepresents whatever this guy's language is. | ||
| Alex is a companion piece to this bullshit. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Alex is an example of something bad, and then the people who threaten people's families are another tendril, another cross-section of this. | ||
| And so Alex is like, this guy is saying that I do that. | ||
| He's not saying that. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| And so I'm just going to play one clip of it because I think it demonstrates Alex doing exactly what he's accusing this guy of doing. | ||
| But that guy didn't do it. | ||
| And Alex is. | ||
| Respectful of how I just lied about someone. | ||
| It's lost in me to be respectful. | ||
| To be respectful. | ||
| Continue. | ||
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Malem per se. | |
| Evil in themselves. | ||
| And, um... | ||
| Hey, pause again. | ||
| Back it up. | ||
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Would you let this guy maybe see your kids? | |
| I think we got two words. | ||
| My name is just a child molester. | ||
|
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Oh! | |
| I'm just saying, if I was casting mainly for maybe a Joseph Mingla mad Nazi scientist, definitely a child molester going with him. | ||
| He is more like Nazi scientist. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| It's just a pathetic breakdown of this clip that only vaguely mentions Alex and is more about all these other people. | ||
| And, yeah, he does that thing he always does. | ||
| You play a second of it, and they back it up, back it up. | ||
| Yeah, he made it through. | ||
| I'm going to stop interrupting, and then he interrupts immediately. | ||
| Like, the first thing that I thought was, this guy has a very sleepy voice. | ||
| He was not very compelling. | ||
| It almost makes you beg for Alex to interrupt. | ||
| I know! | ||
| He was like, and you're like, Alex, back it up! | ||
| And you're like, okay, thank God. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Oh, he was going to take forever to finish a fucking sentence! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, in this next clip, I mean, those are really the accusations that Alex has, and the rest of this is just going to be garbage. | ||
| Listen to the reasoning that Alex uses in this next clip, and just enjoy how flimsy this is. | ||
| He's trying to come down on Joe for possibly having an unnamed group that sponsors him that does DMT retreats or something like that. | ||
| But then Alex, through what I would call terrible, terrible logic, proves... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| is involved. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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I like that. | |
| And then we looked at the groups funding Joe Rogan, who single-handedly has pretty much relaunched the whole DMT ayahuasca movement with retreats in every city I know. | ||
| And the police stand down. | ||
| How many cities do you know? | ||
| And universities are involved, which shows you there's government funding. | ||
| I want to know how many cities he knows now. | ||
| I want to list. | ||
| 17. It cannot be long. | ||
| No, it can't. | ||
| But he's saying that universities are involved. | ||
| He doesn't prove that. | ||
| He doesn't substantiate that in any way. | ||
| No, the universities are involved. | ||
| That means that government funding is involved, which he also doesn't prove. | ||
| Zero private universities. | ||
| None of that is proved. | ||
| Zero private universities. | ||
| Also, I don't know. | ||
| I don't believe this, quite frankly, because I did find an ayahuasca group in Chicago. | ||
| And they are not connected to the universities. | ||
| There's no government funding involved at all. | ||
| I went and I couldn't actually partake in it because I didn't bring a fucking pillow. | ||
| It was a disaster. | ||
| You didn't bring a pillow? | ||
| God! | ||
| Damn it, Dan. | ||
| If there's one thing everyone knows about ayahuasca retreats, it's that you gotta bring your own pillow! | ||
| This is the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy's towel, man! | ||
| I kind of made the faulty assumption that there would be, like, sleeping bags and stuff there. | ||
| I brought nothing. | ||
| And as soon as I showed up, I'm like, I'm a fucking asshole. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| What is this, a yoga class where you can rent a mat for a dollar? | ||
| Hell no. | ||
| This is ayahuasca! | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| My point is that... | ||
| These sorts of things do exist. | ||
| They are out there to be found, but they're very secretive, number one. | ||
| For good reason. | ||
| I don't think I could find it again. | ||
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Because of all the illegalness. | |
| It's profoundly illegal. | ||
| And so the idea that there are all these things in the States, that's not true. | ||
| There are some places you can go... | ||
| That are like Native American places you can take hallucinogenics and things like that as part of religious ceremonies. | ||
| Which means the government is absolutely not involved! | ||
| No, and they're very rare in the United States. | ||
| There's a number in South America and Central America. | ||
| And actually, one of Alex's former guests, who we just tried to brainstorm the name of, and I can't remember what his name is at all, but he was a former police officer that Alex has on a bunch. | ||
| He started his own cottage industry of doing ayahuasca retreats in Central America. | ||
| So Alex has no, like, he didn't have a problem with that guy doing it. | ||
| Why does he have a problem now? | ||
| Oh, because it's pettiness. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So, whatever. | ||
| All these criticisms that he has, like, there's like a couple of them that I find some merit in, but also... | ||
| Your reason for bringing this up sucks. | ||
| And the rest of them are just like, what are you talking about? | ||
| Which again... | ||
| You're a libertarian! | ||
| By your own stated ideology, you want these to be more widespread and legal! | ||
| Why do you care what drugs people do? | ||
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Yeah! | |
| It's their own body. | ||
| Don't you want to maximize freedom? | ||
| No! | ||
| No! | ||
| I want to maximize my freedom! | ||
| That's counter to libertarianism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you'll find they all kind of think that. | ||
| Yeah, kind of. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex thinks that Rogan has government talking points that he follows, which I find to be an absurd idea. | ||
| And then he expresses his idea that Rogan participates in pay-to-play, which we talked about here a second ago. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So it's reached Crazy Town. | ||
| So I start calling Joe about a year ago, and I say, listen, you don't need to have me back on. | ||
| She kept saying, I'll have you back on. | ||
| I said, no. | ||
| Translation, please, please, please let me back on. | ||
| I think Sandy Hook happened. | ||
| I think school shootings happened. | ||
| But things have been staged before, so people have a right to question. | ||
| So stop going to the talking point. | ||
| I said, it's really scary how you follow every talking point the establishment's putting out. | ||
| Well, then he gets even worse. | ||
| It's called reality. | ||
| And then he calls me and says, I'm going to have you on before the election. | ||
| It's, I think, some pacifism deal, right? | ||
| When I was getting banned. | ||
| And then he doesn't return my call. | ||
| So I start researching Joe. | ||
| And now he's got his tech Dorsey and Twitter and Bitcoin. | ||
| And they're doing stuff that Floyd Mayweather had to pay $300,000 fines for. | ||
| They're saying buy these products, do these things, and they're not saying they're paid by it. | ||
| So again, we already talked about this a little bit. | ||
| Alex is way out of line complaining that someone else did that. | ||
| Seeing he does that all the time. | ||
| This is about journalistic integrity in video games, Dan. | ||
| No, but I mean, it is a valid criticism just not coming from Alex. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| If it's true. | ||
| I don't know that it's true. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I can't stress enough how much I don't care what these two idiots... | ||
| I care a little. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| If only because it is a criticism that we've made of Alex, and it would be kind of hypocritical if... | ||
| Joe Rogan's doing this, like, shady business thing. | ||
| Oh, yeah, no, if he's doing it, he can go fuck himself, too. | ||
| I don't know that he's doing it, though. | ||
| We know that Alex does it. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| Or at least has for many, many years. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, Alex is in this place, and he's grasping at straws to try and validate his complaints about Joe. | ||
| In the same way he did when he was saying that, like... | ||
| He doesn't think that Soros is a Nazi, but knows he is because I know that I've told him that. | ||
| Right, and if I tell somebody something, then they must obviously believe it's true. | ||
| Or they're corrupted by the government. | ||
| That's the very definition of bad thinking. | ||
| And he's grasping at straws in the same way with this couple of possibly decent criticisms and a ton of weak ones. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So... | ||
| The reason that he's doing this is, like I said, I think he wants this all-out conflagration between the two that benefits him, and he spells it out here. | ||
| And then, it's this whole thing, like, I still want to hug you. | ||
| No, Joe, I want you to be my enemy. | ||
| I don't like you. | ||
| I'm guilty I was ever nice to you. | ||
| I knew you were bad news 20 years ago. | ||
| I should have ignored that. | ||
| You're a charming guy. | ||
| I want war, Joe. | ||
| I want war. | ||
| I don't want to be nice. | ||
| I want to be cleansed of you. | ||
| Comprende? | ||
| I hear so much pain throughout this entire thing. | ||
| It's fun that he made a news radio reference accidentally. | ||
| This is Jimmy James. | ||
| Don't you remember Super Karate Monkey Death Car? | ||
| Wait. | ||
| What? | ||
| And then he reads the Japanese translation and he's like, war! | ||
| No. | ||
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War. | |
| That was very accidental. | ||
| I know, but it's fun for me. | ||
| It's fun for me. | ||
| How awesome would it be if you said double cane at some point? | ||
| That would be fucking amazing! | ||
| And then the super karate monkey death car will come for my hut. | ||
| So, like, he wants war and the reason is because this state that things are in right now is okay, but it's not that good for him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If anything, all this is going to do is make Joe Rogan's audience feel sad about Alex. | ||
| And he needs them to be, like, thinking that Alex is kind of a threat. | ||
| Because if Rogan's audience thinks that Alex is kind of a threat, it might. | ||
| Tickle their brain in such a way as they're like, let's go check this guy out. | ||
| Oh, this guy is fucking pulling some shit. | ||
| Maybe he's somebody to look into. | ||
| He's an equal. | ||
| He's an equal enemy. | ||
| And instead, it looks like he's pathetic and a loser. | ||
| He's trying to do essentially what he managed to work out with Glenn Beck back in 2009. | ||
| This idea of a one-sided feud. | ||
| That worked out for Alex and both of them to some extent. | ||
| They could both yell at each other. | ||
| I don't know how to put it any simpler than this is another one of Alex's tricks. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| Start picking fights with people in order to gain access to their audience. | ||
| Claim you're bigger than them. | ||
| So obviously that's not your motivation. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like you're much bigger than them. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm huge. | ||
| I'm huge. | ||
| I don't need this. | ||
| I'm not trying to poach audience members because I have all the audience members. | ||
| It's just a principled thing. | ||
| You know, it's just a pump and dump scheme. | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| I'm offended by that. | ||
| Hey, what are you going to do? | ||
| The only thing I'm going to give Alex credit for is... | ||
| There were so many times he could have got on board with some Bitcoin schemes, and he never did. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Again, my theory is that that is because he does not understand it, and it is not physical. | ||
| It's very possible, and the fact that he's run by a gold dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, a gold sales dude. | ||
| I think that might play into it, because he loves hard currency. | ||
| Exactly, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| He's like, Bitcoin, cool, I want some Bitcoin. | ||
| When do I get to hold it in my hands? | ||
| You don't get to hold it in your hands. | ||
| Then it's not real money! | ||
| I don't understand this blockchain. | ||
| A block and a chain are both things I can hold. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| This is our Laurel and Hardy, Alex Jones and somebody explaining Bitcoin. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So, yeah, I do respect that on some level, though, because he had a bunch of these Bitcoin dudes on his show over the years. | ||
| Alex has. | ||
| He's had the Bitcoin guests and people coming in and telling him about how great Bitcoin is, and he's always like, meh. | ||
| He could have done it at any point. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Could be ignorance, but even if it is, good on him for being that dumb. | ||
| Because he could have hurt a lot of people's lives. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| By signing off on it. | ||
| They could have all gotten fucked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, whatever. | ||
| Even if it's a neutral, it's a neutral positive. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Or whatever. | ||
| It's a net positive for the world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex discusses what he's discovered about Rogan and his position in the world. | ||
| So, here's what's going to happen. | ||
| I got everything. | ||
| I got all of it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I'm not asking for something from you, but war. | ||
| War. | ||
| I'm going to expose everything. | ||
| I'm going to unwind everything about it. | ||
| You understand? | ||
| I'm going to expose all of it. | ||
| Every bit of it. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Because you're their darling. | ||
| I figured it out. | ||
| You're their baby cake. | ||
| You're their model for the future. | ||
| You're who I think will be on the internet when no one else is. | ||
| There's some guru to everyone. | ||
| I really hope not. | ||
| And it's just not going to happen. | ||
| I'm built for war, Joe. | ||
| I don't think that Joe's anyone's darling except the sort of... | ||
| The right that's ambivalent about their racism? | ||
| Yeah, like the mild right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The mild to medium right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're not the alt-right, they're not the out-and-out white nationalists, but it's like... | ||
| The restrained populist nationalist types? | ||
| Yeah, it's like the survey they just did about how many white people think blackface is bad. | ||
| And you're like, a lot of them said, I don't know. | ||
| Those are the people who listen to Joe Rogan. | ||
| There's a heavy overlap. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I'm thinking about? | ||
| I mean, we touched on this a little bit earlier, but I'm thinking that there's maybe even more to the idea that Rogan is kind of the new Glenn Beck. | ||
| Then I gave credence to, because Glenn Beck tried to play, like, he was right about some stuff every now and again. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He played the fence quite a bit, but also was a conduit towards harder right things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Through a lot of the narratives that he got engaged in, a lot of the things that seemed to be underlying his ideas. | ||
| I think there's something to be said for that. | ||
| And it was weird how many times Joey Diaz was on Fox News. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That was a weird thing for Glenn Beck to do. | ||
| What is Trussell doing on Glenn Beck? | ||
| Very strange booking. | ||
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What I'm saying is that we should all be doing LSD all the time, man! | |
| I don't think that there's a one-to-one parallel, but what is the same, or at least is very similar between the two, is that they're very easy entry points into things that don't appear to be what you're getting involved in. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In the same way that Glenn Beck, back in the day, was a very important piece of radicalization towards hard tea party stuff, and people like Alex Jones, in the same way... | ||
| Joe Rogan exists as a sort of tepid bath that you can get into, that the water rises really fast and you don't realize it. | ||
| While he's having all these Islamophobic assholes and just people who want to have ideas, just trade ideas. | ||
| Hey man, we're just having debates. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Great. | ||
| So I think there's something to that. | ||
| But also, the interesting difference between them is that back in the day, Alex Jones was the sole beneficiary of the Glenn Beck pipeline. | ||
| Maybe not the sole beneficiary. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So the idea of him attacking Joe kind of makes sense, because that pipeline doesn't feed him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| These are a lot of unprocessed thoughts. | ||
| Yeah, there's also got to be a ton of Alex feeling very, very jealous that the space that he carved out, that he almost single-handedly carved out for himself, to his credit and to the world's detriment. | ||
| Has now been superseded by all kinds of dumb fucks, like QAnon or Ben Shapiro or those fucks. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Where you're like, God damn it, I paved the way and I'm getting fucked over now. | ||
| Like, I get it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's getting taken down by Marlo, man. | ||
| That's what's going on here. | ||
| What's his face? | ||
| The information scape that he helped create has fostered people who are much more slick than him. | ||
| And that's kind of the nature of how things go. | ||
| The next generation is always going to be better at the tools that the last generation created. | ||
| That whole sort of thing is just the nature of life. | ||
| That's why you've got to do positive things. | ||
| You've got to nurture positive folk because they will use those tools in positive ways as opposed to... | ||
| Whatever this is. | ||
| And we've talked so much about it, but it's always important to be and to make an effort to be a ladder down kind of guy. | ||
| If I go up, I'm putting a ladder down for you too. | ||
| You mean Bono? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Yeah, he's going to need some help. | ||
| I think he's going to need a lot of help. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex swears he's going to destroy Joe Rogan. | ||
| The threats don't matter to me. | ||
| Oh, I'll still be your friend. | ||
| Joe, I'll never talk to you again. | ||
| I'll never come on your show again. | ||
| I'm going to destroy you. | ||
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I understand it now. | |
| I'm going to get you. | ||
| I'm coming for you. | ||
| You understand that? | ||
| Who do you think I am? | ||
| What do you think I do? | ||
| Are we doing the show? | ||
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This is crazy. | |
| Is this a show? | ||
| Is this an InfoWars show? | ||
| Or is this him, like, leaving weird voicemails on fucking somebody's dad's home phone? | ||
| I like that Alex thinks that him saying, I'm still your friend, I care about you, that's a threat. | ||
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That's a threat. | |
| And then he goes, I'm coming for you. | ||
| I want war. | ||
| That's not a threat. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, that's a threat in kind. | ||
| You know how when somebody's like... | ||
| It's literally insane behavior. | ||
| I love you and I care for you. | ||
| And you're like, I will kill you because that's what I heard in my head because I am totally mentally stable. | ||
| Those are fighting words. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I honestly, as you're saying, is this a show that we're listening to? | ||
| I honestly feel like, is this a show? | ||
| We are just going to end up listening to him have a complete breakdown about Rogan. | ||
| And I don't know if there's much value other than demonstrating that this is a PR stunt. | ||
| Behind it is, what he's doing is trying to find new ways to get that inflow of people to replace the people who are leaving him. | ||
| And this is the best way to do it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not sure it's our hardest hitting episode we'll ever have done in our lives. | ||
| But I think it's important to, every now and again, make a demonstration of what he's doing and why sometimes it's very enticing to post a ton of stuff about like, oh, Rogan and Alex are going to fight, isn't this exciting? | ||
| And sometimes you've got to curb that impulse. | ||
| Because you're playing into the troll that Alex is doing. | ||
| You are unwittingly being a part of his PR stunt that would just fall flat if you don't. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's sort of my larger thesis about a lot of this. | ||
| I am interested to know, because the problem with the performative aspect of podcasting, even if you have Joe Rogan's audience, is like how much of that, like, I love you and I care for you and I would still give you a hug, is calculated. | ||
| How much of that is part of the performance? | ||
| It seems very conversational. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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But he is a guy who's done stand-up for a long time. | |
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| That is a Gordian knock. | ||
| I know. | ||
| You cannot untie that. | ||
| Which is the thing that I am interested in is, in all of this, like, Alex's reaction makes perfect sense to me. | ||
| He's a fucking lunatic. | ||
| Of course he's going to react like this. | ||
| And a lunatic who has a need. | ||
| Calculating lunatic with, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Who clearly stands to benefit from his... | ||
| Opportunity, motive, all of it. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| It's all very clear. | ||
| Whereas with Joe, Joe has... | ||
| No reason to talk about Alex. | ||
| He does in the sense that a lot of people would find it weird if he didn't. | ||
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Right. | |
| So to the extent that he has, I don't think it's all that weird. | ||
| I think the motive is there in terms of, like, people expect him to at least address the idea that this person is attacking him. | ||
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Right. | |
| But my thought is, like... | ||
| I would be interested to know what Joe's actual response, like, just from a perfect emotional human standpoint to this would be. | ||
| Because my suspicion is Joe is going to listen to this and be like, oh, I get it. | ||
| Like, I don't know how you could listen to Alex go this far. | ||
| I don't know if Joe's responded after this. | ||
| I don't know if he has either. | ||
| I'm just saying, like... | ||
| I don't know if you could listen to this and how over the fucking top it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Without being like, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially if you know the person. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If he had just given a sentence or two where he was like, you know what? | ||
| I don't... | ||
| What Joe did was unforgivable and I will never go on his show again. | ||
| And then did his regular show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I imagine that if I was Joe, I'd be like, holy shit, man. | ||
| That wasn't cool. | ||
| But if you spend an hour and a half being like... | ||
| I'm going to light his balls on fire with my nunchucks. | ||
| Politically. | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| Dude, I get it. | ||
| I'm a bigger show than yours. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| But when we talk about genuine Alex reactions, we generally don't. | ||
| And we're not going to. | ||
| And this is definitely not. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| But the ones that aren't genuine often involve really creepy mumbles. | ||
| And this next clip is a perfect... | ||
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Is it too late to rename our show to Really Creepy Mumbles? | |
| Don't give me any more pleasantries. | ||
| I want war. | ||
| Give me your attacks. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Now you understand the shape of things. | ||
| That's good that you understand those. | ||
| Now you understand. | ||
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I'll keep my hands politically around your neck and all your tough guy crap's gonna end real quick. | |
| Because we've taken down Hillary. | ||
| Is this what the shape of water was about? | ||
| We've taken down the globalists and we're gonna take down Soros. | ||
| And we're going to take you down. | ||
| Because God wants purity. | ||
| God wants things hot and cold, not lukewarm. | ||
| God wants me to wage war. | ||
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God told me, destroy Joe Rogan! | |
| Yes, sir, Jesus! | ||
| I will do it! | ||
| No more games! | ||
| War! | ||
| Ah! | ||
| Oh, that's lame. | ||
| That's lame. | ||
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War! | |
| Your heart isn't in it, man. | ||
| War! | ||
| You want war against our children? | ||
| No. | ||
| You want war against God? | ||
| You will get war! | ||
| The harvest of war is here. | ||
| Weak. | ||
| And I will detonate, thanks to God's blessing, not the defeat of Hillary, but the next great mission before I'm done. | ||
| I will detonate the war that leads to your destruction. | ||
| And Joe is only a baby in this. | ||
| But he's an example of these fools who must first be destroyed before they're cleansed. | ||
| So yeah, you're right. | ||
| Boo! | ||
|
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Weak! | |
| That's kind of the reason I played that clip. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Because it is so fucking awful. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| So weak. | ||
| It doesn't even feel like passionate Alex. | ||
| I know! | ||
| We've listened to a million hours of Alex and we can tell for sure when his heart is in the weird, stupid fucking rant. | ||
| That clip is titled, Alex Wants War, mumbles a bit, this is a PR stunt. | ||
| Because that's what you get from that. | ||
| There's intentionality. | ||
| There's a craft to it. | ||
| There is the idea that, like, give me your attacks. | ||
| That's not saying I want to fight you. | ||
| That's like, if you attack me, I really want that. | ||
| That will be good for me. | ||
| Please, I'm going to say horrible things in a hope that you cannot stop yourself from responding. | ||
| That's what's going on here. | ||
| This is a bait. | ||
| This is a troll. | ||
| So anyway, in this next clip, Alex talks about how effective he is at attacking people. | ||
| And I have some thoughts. | ||
| Fill your hand, dude. | ||
| You're getting the full attack. | ||
| See, that's even disappointing. | ||
| Just get ready. | ||
| It's going to be long. | ||
| You're hurting. | ||
| Fill your hand. | ||
| It's going to be intense. | ||
| Dot com, which redirects. | ||
| It's never going to stop. | ||
| And no one has withstood it. | ||
| So I'm not on a power trip about that. | ||
| In fact, I don't attack people unless I get greenlit at a gut level. | ||
| I'm going to run you politically and all the rest of your people over, so let's go to war. | ||
| No one has ever survived Alex attacking them. | ||
| I'd like to tell you about two people who... | ||
| I know at least one guy, probably, technically, who didn't survive Alex attacking you. | ||
| True. | ||
| I know one guy who did, and that was a guy who Alex went on air and said, I will fight this lawsuit, and I will win, or I will die trying, and then settled two days later and had to give a public apology to Hamdi Ulukaya. | ||
| Also, Alex had to give a public apology to James Oliphantus, owner of Comet Ping Pong Pizza, for all the horrible shit he said about him. | ||
| Like, everyone survives Alex's attacks. | ||
| Everyone does. | ||
| Everyone, you know who survives? | ||
| Alex does, because they just accept an apology and don't take him for all he's worth, for all the defamation that he engages in. | ||
| So, no, Alex, get out of here with his no-one-survives-my-attacks. | ||
| The fuck out of here. | ||
| This is bullshit. | ||
| You know what just occurred to me? | ||
| So far, with our knowledge of Hamdi Ulukaya, the least beneficent thing he has ever done for the human race is not take Alex to the cleaners. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, like, that might be the one black spot. | ||
| Well, it's a matter of empathy, but it's a matter of scale. | ||
| It's the greater good, man. | ||
| Well, you know, showing mercy to one person is showing non-mercy to many. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| And maybe he prioritized the one person who was in his crosshairs over the other people who would be hurt. | ||
| And maybe that's a failing, or maybe that is just a let bygones be bygones kind of thing. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| That's the new morality question they have in those ethics classes, where it's like, oh, if you had a lever, would you pull the train to kill one person and save five lives, or would you leave it alone and let five people die in order to save one? | ||
| Would you sue a bitch? | ||
| Would you sue a motherfucking asshole? | ||
| Would you follow through with a lawsuit with a penitent bigot knowing that their apology will be in bad faith? | ||
| Tough decision. | ||
| I know what I would do. | ||
| I know what I would do. | ||
| But I also don't second-guess Hamdi Ulukaya's decision. | ||
| I don't pretend to understand all the variables he was putting into place. | ||
| So, you know, I understand that greater positives could have come out of Alex having to pay millions of dollars or whatever he would have had to pay when he was dead to rights in that lawsuit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, you know, whatever. | ||
| For all the good Hamdi has done, I'm not going to kick him for that. | ||
| Losing points in my book. | ||
| Alex keeps saying that Joe Rogan uses Soros talking points. | ||
| And like I said, he never really explains what these talking points are. | ||
| He does say that he has, like, inside documents of the talking points, but he never produces them. | ||
| He never says what they say. | ||
| Inside documents. | ||
| All this bullshit. | ||
| It's just the white papers all over it. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But he does make one sort of example of what he means by Soros talking points, and it's weak. | ||
| And he goes, oh, I'm not doing talking points. | ||
| And he goes, but Media Matters says, Jones says, Sandy Hook never happened. | ||
| Media Matters has some edited tape. | ||
| I have a right to say Sandy Hook never happened. | ||
| And when the internet doubted it, I looked at it and said, I can see how people think it's totally synthetic and fake because of all the other false things we've seen, dead babies and incubators and all the other fake news. | ||
| And then they edit that, and then they sue me. | ||
| In rigged jurisdictions, whatever. | ||
| I'm not worried about that. | ||
| Should be. | ||
| So Alex is claiming, the Soros talking points thing is just that Joe referenced a video that was posted on Media Matters. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Now, I do believe that the video probably was edited in as much as it's not Alex's entire show, but it's not edited like spliced together in such a way as to be like, I think that Sandy Hook was not real. | ||
| I mean, we've played tons of clips in the past of Alex saying it was totally... | ||
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Totally fake. | |
| Fuck this. | ||
| I thought there were kids who actually died there. | ||
| Turns out I was wrong. | ||
| All that stuff. | ||
| The idea that this is a Soros talking point because he got it from Media Matters is ludicrous. | ||
| That's just a source that he found information that Alex was lying to him about. | ||
| Alex said, all we did was question it. | ||
| We had debates. | ||
| On Media Matters, I found a video that was very clear. | ||
| It's Alex. | ||
| Literally saying it didn't happen multiple times. | ||
| Multiple instances of him saying Sandy Hook was fake. | ||
| Kids didn't die there. | ||
| That's not using a Soros talking point. | ||
| That's using... | ||
| The video that they posted. | ||
| If anything, that's using an Alex talking point. | ||
| Because they got it from him. | ||
| Pretty much. | ||
| Now, if it was that, I believe... | ||
| Then we'd be fine. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We'd be like, no, no, no, fuck off. | ||
| We'll kill you. | ||
| Yeah, and be like, hey, I'm telling you, media matters. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's so crazy to me that, like, that's... | ||
| They're not James O 'Keefe. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But that's his only... | ||
| Who Alex loves. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's his only example of the Soros talking point, is that Joe mentioned that on Media Matters he found a video of Alex saying that Sandy Hook was real. | ||
| In his paranoid psychology, though, what he has done is turned any point of reality that he fundamentally disagrees with into a conspiracy. | ||
| Into a Soros talking point. | ||
| Anything that pierces his fake reality. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So to me, it's just him saying Soros' talking point is him saying a reality that I don't disagree with. | ||
| Or a reality that disagrees with me. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it could be anything. | ||
| And I can tertiarily attach to Soros. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's almost like if he had forgotten where the Mississippi River was and you were like, no, it's on the line between these states, he'd be like, you're a fucking Soros talking point! | ||
| It doesn't mean anything. | ||
| Well, one of the things that I think is interesting is on our show, when there's a source that's from Infowars.com or that Alex uses or Daily Caller or World Net Daily, I don't... | ||
| World star hip-hop, of course. | ||
| I don't not read it, you know? | ||
| And if the article is good and it's sourced, I'll still take a fucking article from Daily Caller if it's correct. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, if it's not terrible. | ||
| Yeah, because it's information. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, generally, most of the time that I have read them, there's some problems. | ||
| There's some problems. | ||
| But just because I don't like the source doesn't mean I'm going to throw the baby out with the bathwater and say, like... | ||
| One time out of 10 million, they might have a good article or whatever. | ||
| I'm going to come in with a slight prejudice, but allow the possibility that this is real. | ||
| So when I hear things like that, and I could do that. | ||
| I could do that. | ||
| Like, oh, Alex is referencing a Daily Caller article. | ||
| This is big Tucker Carlson. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I could just do that. | ||
| That game isn't fun. | ||
| Because it's stupid. | ||
| It's just stupid. | ||
| And the idea that he's like, oh, Media Matters got some funding from George Soros at some point. | ||
| Oh, it's all Soros narratives. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| So, Jordan, I got a question for you. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Do you like literature? | ||
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Well, I don't know, Dan. | |
| What kind of literature are we talking about? | ||
| What do you know about my boy Queequeg? | ||
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Oh man, he got fucked! | |
| At this point in the show, Alex launches into a... | ||
| We'll go over the course of two clips. | ||
| A discussion about Moby Dick. | ||
| We're talking about Moby Dick. | ||
| I'm legitimately excited to see what it is, Alex. | ||
| Because I think all he did was read the headline of Moby Dick. | ||
| Moby Dick, big whale. | ||
| Guy obsessed. | ||
| White whale. | ||
| Am I rooting for him? | ||
| Or, wait, the guy is white too? | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| All I do is hope Queequeg dies. | ||
| I don't think he knows Queequeg. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| I want to say this. | ||
| Before we get into any of this, I don't know what his point is. | ||
| I've listened to these clips. | ||
| I am not sure. | ||
| But I do know he has not read Moby Day. | ||
| I know that for sure. | ||
| You've chosen the wrong side, and you're going to be destroyed. | ||
| No matter what happens to me, Joe, you're done. | ||
| It's like Captain Ahab and the whale. | ||
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Uh... | |
| Moby Dick. | ||
| You know, is Joe Rogan Captain Ahab or is he Moby Dick? | ||
| I don't care either way. | ||
| What? | ||
| The point is... | ||
| You should! | ||
| ...is that I sit there with the number one political show on YouTube that Joe was viciously jealous of and admit it was way bigger than his show. | ||
| And then I get taken off, and then he gets up there and talks about how I won on his show and all this crap. | ||
| Dude, I don't want laurels that I didn't earn. | ||
| I don't want to be you. | ||
| I don't want to be given everything. | ||
| I don't want your life. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| Is Joe Ahab or Bobby Dick? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Are you the whale? | ||
| Are you the captain? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Seems important in the metaphor. | ||
| Could be anybody. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Are there any other supporting characters in that book? | ||
| What about the many movie adaptations that were made of it? | ||
| Here's my problem with this. | ||
| I don't even understand why that started. | ||
| I don't understand why the Moby Dick metaphor started. | ||
| I think what he's thinking is... | ||
| Who's hunting whom? | ||
| Well, I think he's thinking he's Captain Ahab and Rogan is the white whale. | ||
| And he's going to die taking down the white whale. | ||
| Emotionally where he's at, yes, I agree. | ||
| But not based on what he just said. | ||
| I don't get what he just said. | ||
| Well, I kind of don't think he knows if anybody wins in the end. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| I kind of don't think he's like... | ||
| I think he's like hedging his bets. | ||
| He fell asleep in the middle of the movie adaptation. | ||
| I am not sure if the whale or the guy won. | ||
| So you know what? | ||
| Who was the good guy? | ||
| Let's throw them all in there. | ||
| And the answer is, none of them were a good guy, Alex. | ||
| So in a certain way, his metaphor does kind of make sense. | ||
| In that clip, I was like, I'm very confused by what you're trying to say. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| On the other hand, the whale was just a fucking whale. | ||
| True. | ||
| It was a metaphor for other shit. | ||
| Well, get this. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex tries to take the metaphor into different places. | ||
| Oh, that's not going to be good. | ||
| It interestingly makes it worse. | ||
| That doesn't sound possible. | ||
| Well, not worse, but more clear that he doesn't know what he's talking about, which I find very interesting. | ||
| And then he spirals into talking about how he's going to choke Rogan out with his tentacles. | ||
| Because now he's a sea monster! | ||
| He's a squid. | ||
| See, Captain Ahab isn't finding a whale, is he? | ||
| See, that's the point. | ||
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That's true. | |
| No, but that's true. | ||
| That's the point where I'm like, Alex, okay. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You're good. | ||
| You've got it. | ||
| Yeah, you're getting it. | ||
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Okay. | |
| He's not actually fighting the whale. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right, Alex. | ||
| That was the only part I'm like, is Alex going to come correct? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| If you're a whale, you're fighting a big squid ten times bigger than you. | ||
| No whale, no sperm whale's ever fought that. | ||
| So you're just a little sperm whale. | ||
| There's a squid this long. | ||
| That's me. | ||
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One of my tentacles. | |
| Your entire head. | ||
| I'm going to show you. | ||
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One tentacle right now is wrapped around you. | |
| And don't worry. | ||
| I'll show you. | ||
| I'll squeeze you slowly. | ||
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Slowly. | |
| Slowly. | ||
| Just very slowly. | ||
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Squeeze. | |
| Squeeze and give you what you want, Hollywood. | ||
| Because vengeance is God. | ||
| That's where this all comes from. | ||
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And so now you get to full heat load. | |
| See? | ||
| It's just only starting. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| I wish I was an adult. | ||
| I wish I was an adult. | ||
| That's so weird. | ||
| I wish I could listen to that. | ||
| I even forgot about how his sound effect was just a fart. | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| I'm the squid now. | ||
| Isn't that great? | ||
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What? | |
| Isn't that great? | ||
| That is great. | ||
| What starts with interesting, like, oh, oh. | ||
| It doesn't matter, because now I'm a squid. | ||
| I'm going to choke you out. | ||
| He's like a 12-year-old. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| This is a child where it's like, oh, yeah. | ||
| He's mixing up 20,000 leagues under the sea. | ||
| He definitely hasn't seen The Squid and the Whale. | ||
| That's a very different movie. | ||
| Maybe he's seen the headline. | ||
| But I don't mean title. | ||
| I thought it was an adaptation of Moby Dick. | ||
| That must be Moby Dick, right? | ||
| Captain Ahab's a squid. | ||
| I remember my favorite part of Moby Dick was whenever Captain Ahab tragically throwing his spear at the whale and then goes down and then it turns out that there's just a giant squid that ate them both. | ||
| It was a real Twilight Zone twist for Moby Dick to have. | ||
| Squidus ex machina. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sort of ending. | ||
| Very disappointing on a narrative level. | ||
| It actually all turned out to be a dream that the squid was having. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| Yeah, it was a scene elsewhere situation. | ||
| It was a five-year-old autistic kid, yeah. | ||
| So, look, dude, I have a lot of thoughts about... | ||
| What Alex's motivation is in doing all this. | ||
| Like, I've expressed already, I think it's a crass PR stunt. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think it's also probably partially involved in Owen Benjamin being a negative influence on Alex. | ||
| But then also, Alex in this next clip gives a reason for why he's doing this that I think is simultaneously true and also Alex is saying this. | ||
| It's sort of blustery bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think that there's a, I would say maybe a 15% truth to this next clip. | ||
| So see, Joe, you're my way to get Jack Dorsey, and you're my way to get them all. | ||
| And so now, it's kind of like missile command. | ||
| You can hit those buttons as fast as you want, but more missiles just keep coming to hell. | ||
| I don't care if you blow me out of the air. | ||
| Because we've already launched a thousand other missiles, Joe. | ||
| See, Joe, you're in the pretend Hollywood world. | ||
| I'm in the big boy world. | ||
| The big boy world. | ||
| Sorry, let's stop pontificating. | ||
| That wasn't pontificating. | ||
| No, let's stop metaphoring. | ||
| That wasn't pontificating at all. | ||
| That was just mumbling. | ||
| The missile stuff is not the 15% true. | ||
| I think that there's a tiny truth to Alex thinking that attacking Joe will somehow... | ||
| Be a message to Jack and maybe get him back on Twitter or something like that. | ||
| Or a way for him to then attack Jack through attacking Rogan or something like that. | ||
| But I feel like, first of all, I feel like the fact that Alex is saying it means it's not really what he's angling for. | ||
| And then also I just don't think it's a reasonable expectation to have from attacking Joe. | ||
| I think that right now Twitter is his white whale. | ||
| Perhaps all of social media is Alex's white whale. | ||
| Who's Ishmael? | ||
| And he's going to go down. | ||
| And he's never getting back on either of those things. | ||
| And even if he does, it will be at the end of both of them. | ||
| And Friendster is a squid. | ||
| Friendster is a squid. | ||
| Man, wouldn't it be amazing if Friendster wound up winning throughout all of this? | ||
| Somebody just brings it back? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That would be intense. | ||
| That would be a twist. | ||
| What a twist. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What if M. Night Shyamalan directed Moby Dick? | ||
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What if he directed social media? | |
| So, in this next clip, I already told you that Eddie Bravo telling Alex that Rogan was being threatened and all that stuff was a Joey Diaz prank. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex doesn't realize that in this next clip. | ||
| So you sit there and you attack me and say, I was dishonest with you. | ||
| And then he goes, oh, and I was never threatened. | ||
| Jones lied about that. | ||
| Eddie Bravo told me you were threatening. | ||
| I'm sure Eddie's a great guy. | ||
| He won't talk to me since all this happened. | ||
| He said that. | ||
| He admitted he said that. | ||
| So I didn't lie. | ||
| Eddie Bravo said that. | ||
| It doesn't matter, Joe. | ||
| You shouldn't listen to Eddie Bravo. | ||
| No one should listen to Eddie Bravo. | ||
| He's a nice guy, but don't take him seriously. | ||
| He's a sweetheart, but he is the dumbest man I've ever heard speak. | ||
| Maybe not even the dumbest man, but most gullible. | ||
| Oh, he's so gullible. | ||
| He's very smart in specific ways. | ||
| Don't take that away from him. | ||
| No. | ||
| His brain has a good capacity to understand a lot of the kinesthetic things that you and I couldn't possibly understand. | ||
| Oh, absolutely not. | ||
| The idea of how to use your body in certain ways. | ||
| He's a genius in many ways. | ||
| But he is very fucking gullible. | ||
| He's a flat earther, right? | ||
| I don't know if he is presently. | ||
| Certainly has been in the past. | ||
| I would say he's a very fun person to be around as long as you dismiss. | ||
| Ideas that can't be backed up. | ||
| Alex is not the sort of receptor. | ||
| Like, he's a bad person to talk to Eddie Bravo because Eddie talks shit and he's gullible as hell and just repeats things. | ||
| And then Alex is like, oh, I'll take that as a source. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And so then it becomes Alex is like on air and he's like, Joe Rogan's been threatened. | ||
| And then when it comes out that he hasn't been and Joe's like... | ||
| Alex keeps saying my family's been threatened. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| I don't know why he's saying this. | ||
| Oh, it turns out it was a Joe Diaz prank told Eddie Bravo. | ||
| And then Alex is like, hey, Eddie Bravo told me that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If you, Alex Jones, are reporting things that Eddie Bravo tells you socially, that calls into question everything that you've ever reported from an anonymous source. | ||
| Because it could be... | ||
| Eddie Bravo level. | ||
| It could be Eddie Bravo! | ||
| It 100% could be. | ||
| No disrespect to Eddie Bravo, but you're not a high-level source. | ||
| But that's what's interesting about him. | ||
| I've listened to a bunch of stuff. | ||
| Interviews of him and episodes of him on Rogan and stuff. | ||
| He's obnoxious and a little annoying at times. | ||
| I have no problem with that. | ||
| He still has a charm to him that I never want to attack him. | ||
| And I never want to talk shit. | ||
| I wish I could say the same thing about me. | ||
| You know, like, I just... | ||
| He has some innocence to him that... | ||
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He has a complete lack of guile. | |
| That's what's amazing. | ||
| He has a complete lack of guile. | ||
| There's no craft to his idiocy. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| There doesn't appear to be, like, malice or intent. | ||
| Yeah, he wants to believe. | ||
| It's not that he wants to do anything beyond that. | ||
| It's like, I want to believe you. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Which could just be Fox Mulder. | ||
| So, in this next clip, there's no point for me to play this clip, but I'm going to anyway, because I think it's so funny. | ||
| In the middle of this show, we're getting towards the end of February 5th, and Alex, the break music is playing. | ||
| It's all going. | ||
| The Amen break. | ||
| Cool Herc is spinning in the back. | ||
| He's in the middle of just nothing. | ||
| And he decides to launch into an entirely new conversation as the going-to-break music plays. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And he gets hit by a hard break while he talks about darts as a metaphor. | ||
| Paul Watson is going to transfer his brain into mine. | ||
| That's what we're going to do. | ||
| I'd like... | ||
| Here's what happened. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I took the gloves off, but we should go. | ||
| The gloves are off with all of you. | ||
| I've never felt better in my life. | ||
| I'm hurting. | ||
| I can sit there at like 15 feet and throw triple bullseyes with a dart right now. | ||
| Someone helped. | ||
| You may need this herbal tea for relief. | ||
| Hard break. | ||
| Hard break. | ||
| I'm great at darts in the dark. | ||
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You might need this herbal tea. | |
| Man, there's nothing like a man expressing deep, deep psychological pain and then getting cut off by fucking herbal tea. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he plays a bit of Rogan's... | ||
| Talking about him. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And he just interrupts it the same way he does with all the clips. | ||
| And I wanted to cut a bunch of that stuff, but I really didn't think it actually went that well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For Alex or for, like, understanding his mental state. | ||
| Like, it just was kind of boilerplate in a lot of ways. | ||
| And he only gets through maybe two sentences or two or three sentences that Rogan says. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then he's like, I need to do this later. | ||
| Because you know what? | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson's hosting the next hour. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I gotta let him host, so I'm gonna get out of here. | ||
| You know, that sort of thing. | ||
| He's like, we'll do it later. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so the next day, you know, we get to the 6th. | ||
| And I'm like, well, last night was the State of the Union. | ||
| So probably going to hear about that. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| All Joe. | ||
| All Joe Rogan. | ||
| He's still mad at Rogan, and he said he's going to get back to it. | ||
| So we jump into the 6th and listen to this shit. | ||
| You know, I missed Joe Rogan's phone call last night. | ||
| Had my phone off. | ||
| Sure you did. | ||
| But I really am so disgusted, I don't know if I would have taken the call when I knew he called. | ||
| and joe will be on with us at the bottom of the next hour live so no no no no no no no no no no no no no Isn't that wild? | ||
| He should have a Joe Rogan impersonator on. | ||
| Isn't that wild? | ||
| Isn't that wild? | ||
| The idea. | ||
| The very idea. | ||
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Fuck you! | |
| Wouldn't that be almost too conciliatory? | ||
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Fuck off! | |
| He just said he was going to slit his throat politically. | ||
| Well, let's finish the clip. | ||
| So I guess we'll take his call live here on air. | ||
| Unlike the fact that he never lets me defend myself on his podcast. | ||
| I thought you didn't care about going on his podcast. | ||
| Seems like you care. | ||
| So Joe Rogan will be on. | ||
| Bottom of the next hour. | ||
| Along with traffic. | ||
| And of course, satire starts with an S. I'll leave it there. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Satire starts with an S? | ||
| Does that mean, is that an attire reference? | ||
| Attire, clothing. | ||
| What does satire begins with an S mean? | ||
| I really don't understand that one. | ||
| I don't get the reference. | ||
| Is that a thing? | ||
| It might be, but that's certainly not a colloquialism I've ever heard. | ||
| I've never heard that. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| But that should give you some indication that Joe Rogan is not coming up on the show. | ||
| Oh, he's not? | ||
| No. | ||
|
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Oh! | |
| Oh, I get it. | ||
| He's going to make fun of Rogan later. | ||
|
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I get it. | |
| He's going to talk about Rogan. | ||
| But he's... | ||
| But he's made it vague enough that if you're listening and you don't understand what he's saying, that will be something that people will start putting out in the social media. | ||
| Rogan's going to be coming up on the show. | ||
| The guys are going to actually have a fight on air. | ||
| It's going to be awesome. | ||
| This is just another manipulative trick that he's pulling. | ||
| That's such a bummer. | ||
| I will tell you this right now. | ||
| When you type in satire begins with an S... | ||
| Even if you're using quotation marks around it, Google has no answer for you. | ||
| That sounds about right. | ||
| Google's like, are you looking for satire or are you looking for colloquialisms that don't exist? | ||
| It's honestly probably a Moby Dick quote. | ||
| If I had to guess. | ||
| So Alex has... | ||
| Everybody knows a modest proposal begins with an M. So we all know, because I've already told you, Rogan isn't coming. | ||
| But Alex is going to do something that's very disappointing. | ||
| If you're listening to this, he's presented the premise that Rogan is going to be on later. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so he does the rest of the show with a ton of ads and stuff like that because he is... | ||
| He knows that everybody's sitting there waiting. | ||
| He's done what is sort of the propaganda show version of a thirst trap. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is the idea that like... | ||
| Sure, there's no cleavage here or anything like that, but it is the anticipation, the idea that Rogan might be calling in. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Can you imagine how much fun that'll be? | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's like when you're watching The Biggest Little Whorehouse in Texas and you're like, Dolly Parton, she's in the whorehouse. | ||
| No, it's a musical. | ||
| Now, what's weird about this is that Alex does talk a bit about the State of the Union. | ||
| And a lot of it is kind of what I would categorize as like, boy. | ||
| He's defending Trump, but it's not the same as it used to be. | ||
| It's not the same thing. | ||
| It's defending Trump by virtue of attacking the people he wants to attack. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's different than, like, this guy gets it all. | ||
| Now, the exception is that Trump was talking about killing babies as opposed to talking about preventative care and abortion being women's health care. | ||
| And Alex was thrilled about that. | ||
| But even six months ago, Trump saying something like that would have been the entire show. | ||
| And it was just something he was like, it's great he said that. | ||
| As if it was just another politician who had said that. | ||
| So there are changes you can see even within that. | ||
| But it's not really important because Alex gets so weird on this February 6th show in a way that I think is irresponsible and I think he didn't mean to do. | ||
| He starts... | ||
| I'm gonna be honest with you. | ||
| He might as well be a Project Camelot episode right now. | ||
| Okay, now I'm in. | ||
| From here on out. | ||
| Now I'm in. | ||
| We're in spider leadership territory. | ||
| From here on out, the rest of this is slight Rogan stuff and Project Camelot. | ||
| Listen to this fucking shit. | ||
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This... | |
| You might... | ||
| You could easily imagine Carrie Cassidy listening to this silently and then once the clip ends, they're saying, hmm. | ||
| And I knew God was real. | ||
| And I knew all this was real before. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because of experiences and sixth sense and things I grew up seeing and all of it. | ||
| But when I went to a city fully under alien control, like San Francisco or Seattle, that's a couple of their main bases, as you know, their main breakthrough points. | ||
| They breached. | ||
| They've got pretty much the whole city under their control. | ||
| Aliens? | ||
| Demons, whatever it is. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Zimmerman is not a cowardly guy. | ||
| That's one of his producers. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| With me after about two days. | ||
| We were there for six days. | ||
| In Seattle particularly, because he saw it. | ||
| I want to pause right there. | ||
| Zimmerman is one of his cameraman producer guys, and so Alex is going to be like, he saw the evil there. | ||
| And I'm guessing what really happened is this is a young buck, some guy who's just like... | ||
| I think that every time we go out, it's really hostile. | ||
| And I didn't sign up for this. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I assume that's the case. | ||
| See, because my first thought was, he's talking about Zimmerman, the fucking murderer. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| No, he is not yet an employee of Infowars. | ||
| Yeah, no shit. | ||
| He saw it where we would round one corner. | ||
| And it was like Agent Smith in The Matrix. | ||
| The elite's telling you all this, which is jumping person after person. | ||
| And it was like people were saying incredibly evil, horrible things to me as I would round a corner, the next person would finish the sentence and do it in a demonic voice. | ||
| We've played a lot of these videos. | ||
| No, you haven't. | ||
| No, you absolutely haven't. | ||
| Haven't you heard all those demonic voice videos? | ||
| He hasn't played these videos. | ||
| It would be amazing if he had. | ||
| That would be awesome. | ||
| The idea of him having a conversation with one person over here, the camera pans around the corner, the other person finishes their sentence in a demonic voice. | ||
| That'd be fantastic! | ||
| Yeah, that video would be crazy. | ||
| Dude, I would... | ||
| Alex doesn't have that video. | ||
| He doesn't, and he didn't even bother to stage it, because that would be a perfect video to stage. | ||
| It would be very, very easy. | ||
| So easy! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yep. | |
| This guy's lazy. | ||
| Didn't even read Moby Dick. | ||
| I didn't read Moby Dick. | ||
|
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Who's that? | |
| So, that's one thing. | ||
| Now, I'll be clear. | ||
| Alex is like, he's saying these are cities under alien control. | ||
| He's like, call them demons, whatever you want. | ||
| Call them whatever you want. | ||
| I don't think that's good enough. | ||
| In terms of dismissing that he is saying it's demons or aliens. | ||
| Because he is saying that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In this next clip, he makes clear that it's an invasion. | ||
| There's no doubt now that this is an interdimensional alien invasion. | ||
| And you notice they don't ever play me saying that. | ||
| There's no doubt. | ||
| Because they know it. | ||
| San Francisco. | ||
| And they never play him saying that. | ||
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They worship it. | |
| They worship. | ||
| They believe that they are. | ||
| If you read the Bible, it's exactly that. | ||
| A literal lower level dimensional attack. | ||
| And that's why when you run into these things, they're so low level. | ||
| They're so stupid. | ||
| They're so hateful. | ||
| And all they want to do. | ||
| Like zombies, is kill people and attack children. | ||
| So, I guess it's the operating system that makes us all kill each other. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I've looked at every angle of it, but the point is, the Pentagon and everybody else, and I had General Stubblebine who ran the operations about this, they were giving volunteers, like astronauts, megadoses of drugs, okay, with wires hooked into their brains, and they were in interdimensional meetings with the damn aliens, getting the technology, okay? | ||
| You don't meet the aliens in a flying saucer by the moon. | ||
| You meet them in this interdimensional vortex. | ||
| I'm eating it up. | ||
| I'm not the one saying it. | ||
| They're the ones that are doing it. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| That is... | ||
| Alex should not be talking loose lips, sink ships, to quote Ishmael. | ||
| I was about to quote you! | ||
| This is terrible. | ||
| The idea, because he always talks so vaguely about where he's getting this information from, now we know a lot of that stuff is coming from Stubblebine. | ||
| Stubblebine! | ||
| We can throw that baby out with that bathwater. | ||
| Goodbye! | ||
| Because General Stubblebine, Alex could not have been talking to him. | ||
| Before he was 70 years old and had been drummed out of the service in 1984 for bringing quote-unquote psychics into secured areas they weren't allowed to be into and had spent years and a ton of government money unsuccessfully trying to walk through walls. | ||
| So I don't give a fuck. | ||
| Whatever he's talking about, like, General Stubblebine is someone who you should interview and be interested by the quirks. | ||
| It should not be somebody that you're like... | ||
| This guy knows everything. | ||
| That's bad to me. | ||
| So now, Alex, you've got this information about the interdimensional invasion of alien demons and stuff, and the first thing you come up with is, fucking stubblebind told me! | ||
| I'm not interested. | ||
| I'm not interested. | ||
| You fucked up by telling me your source. | ||
| It makes me frustrated that you can't get a metaphor about Moby Dick right, but at the same time... | ||
| You're going to say that there are interdimensional aliens. | ||
| And I thought he was starting out as a metaphor. | ||
| I thought interdimensional aliens started out as being like, these libs or these illegal immigrants or anything like this. | ||
| But then he jumps direct into actual alien invasion. | ||
| The libs and the immigrants and all of them are under the sway. | ||
| Aliens. | ||
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No. | |
| No, we're under the sway of aliens. | ||
| Well, I mean, I guess it's probably a matter of scale. | ||
| Can we do... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like some... | ||
| Where are you in the hierarchy? | ||
| Some probably are secretly demonic aliens. | ||
| People like AOC is obviously... | ||
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Lower dimensional. | |
| She's a demon. | ||
| Definitely a demon. | ||
| Super demon, yeah. | ||
| But someone like you or me were probably just under the sway of some of these disco demons. | ||
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All right. | |
| Disco demons? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, we are in Chicago and we were around for a disco... | ||
| Well, we weren't around, but this is the whole... | ||
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Disco demolition night. | |
| Disco demolition night. | ||
| I'm a big fan of Italian disco. | ||
| That was totally lower-level demons. | ||
| So, yeah, I think that he... | ||
| Obviously, the presentation of it is the people who believe left-leaning policies and that sort of thing are the ones who are a part of this demonic invasion. | ||
| Right, of course. | ||
| But probably not the actual demon. | ||
| He always tries to do this fucking stupid game that he plays where he's like, this is what I'm saying. | ||
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This is what these people are into when I'm fucking trying to fight against it. | |
| Do you understand how badly I need to fight against this? | ||
| This is life or death, people! | ||
| Like that sort of thing. | ||
| And then two minutes later, he'll be like, I don't believe it. | ||
| They believe it! | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| And it's like, man, if your enemy believes something that you don't believe, you don't have to fight them. | ||
| Because they're dumb. | ||
| What? | ||
| Like, if they believe something, like, that aliens give them power and there isn't a power, you don't have to, like, diffuse that power. | ||
| It doesn't exist. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| So, I just want to be really clear on this. | ||
| People who are like, we should and can provide healthcare. | ||
| And then people who are like, We should spend less money on a ridiculous military and spend more of that on people. | ||
| And people who are like, maybe the wealthy don't need to have all of the money and we should spread it around. | ||
| Those people are demons. | ||
| Largely. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex talks more about some of these generals that he's talked to who have talked to aliens. | ||
| Wait, we're really doing the alien stuff. | ||
| Oh, yeah, this is Project Camelot, man. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Call it aliens, whatever it is, man. | ||
| I've had three-star generals on that had people with wires hooked on their brains in damn two-year meetings with aliens that lasted one second long. | ||
| I mean, you understand, folks? | ||
| That's what the Pentagon does. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| It's already happening. | ||
| It's been happening for decades. | ||
| I thought they were fucking up Venezuela. | ||
| And any aliens that will contact this planet are bad, folks. | ||
| God doesn't contact us because of free will. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| I thought God told you to attack you. | ||
| This is like a flu or cancer we have. | ||
| This is crap. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And everyone knows it at a genetic level. | ||
| We're far superior to these damn zombies. | ||
| So they tell us to give in to them and submit to them and go along with all this and have no morals so that they can run their operating system and poison the sky and the genetics and irrevocably attack us. | ||
| We are under attack. | ||
| We are under attack. | ||
| This is not of this world. | ||
| So it's aliens. | ||
| They're coming in telling us to destroy ourselves and what have you. | ||
| Poison the sky. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The only thing that I've ever seen that was against poisoning the sky was regulations against pollution and stuff like that. | ||
| Can't have regulations. | ||
| They're evil. | ||
| Yeah, that's a problem. | ||
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I kind of am offended. | |
| On what level? | ||
| I think that's really xenophobic. | ||
| And I don't think that's okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think that's okay. | ||
| I'm going to take a stand here. | ||
| I think that's racist. | ||
| Against the whole galaxy! | ||
| Fucking racist aliens. | ||
| Or no, he's racist towards aliens. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, I do admire his restraint in not saying there's raptors and mantis beings and stuff like that. | ||
| I admire his restraint. | ||
| Sure, because he could. | ||
| We could say that. | ||
| I've had generals on who have told me people have had probes in their head. | ||
| Two year long meetings in one second. | ||
| In a second. | ||
| Oh, that doesn't sound suspicious at all. | ||
| That sounds like the plot of Contact, but okay. | ||
| This is all exactly the same sort of stuff that we see on Project Camelot. | ||
| And what's so interesting to me is oftentimes when we make the connection between these worlds, it's so much of these ding-dongs on Project Camelot that relate to things Alex says. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's kind of rare that we see Alex just overtly expressing the same sort of secret space program nonsense that we see in Carrie's world. | ||
| I talked to this incredible captain who told me all about these raptors! | ||
| Oh, dude, we gotta try and hook them up. | ||
| Oh, we do gotta try and hook them up. | ||
| Yeah, but Alex can't make it to Vacaville. | ||
| He's in Austin, doesn't travel much. | ||
| But he could send one of his... | ||
| He could send Owen Benjamin. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Get him out of town for a while. | ||
| Maybe you'd become friends with Joe again. | ||
| Owen Benjamin strikes up a friendship with Captain Mark Richards. | ||
| The last person who would be a friend. | ||
| Well, the two of them become friends, and then maybe three months later, Mark Richards is like, I don't want to fucking talk to Owen Benjamin anymore. | ||
| Owen Benjamin starts making videos about how Mark Richards is full of shit. | ||
| I'll tell you this right now. | ||
| He just listens to Sam Harris all the time. | ||
| I'll tell you this right now. | ||
| They would not let Alex have a pen in Vacaville. | ||
| He is definitely using a crayon to write out his notes. | ||
| Undoubtedly. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex talks about how these aliens, what he's afraid of. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which, by the way, he keeps saying, like, he's such a coward. | ||
| Because he keeps making this whole thing. | ||
| He's like, I don't believe this. | ||
| They believe it. | ||
| It's like, you are expressing that you believe this. | ||
| He literally just said it's interdimensional. | ||
| He said it multiple times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| He's saying that this is what I believe in. | ||
| He wants to phrase it more like demons. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And some people might think it's aliens. | ||
| He's accepting the label of alien, but I just think it's so cowardly that he keeps couching it with, like... | ||
| Everyone says that I think this. | ||
| No, it's what they think, and I'm scared that they think it. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Fuck off. | ||
| Just make your point or don't. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Stand your ground. | ||
| Sack up. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We're fine making our claims that Alex is full of shit. | ||
| I'm not saying that someone else said it. | ||
| No. | ||
| We're saying it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Say what you mean, Alex. | ||
| And what he means, you can glean from context clues, and it is that there is an interdimensional invasion. | ||
| That is coming to Earth, whether it be aliens or demons, whatever, and there's a... | ||
| What is the difference, really? | ||
| Right, and there's a transmission that they're sending. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's what we're dealing with. | ||
| A nocturnal transmission? | ||
| A spirit, a force, a broadcast. | ||
| Kill yourselves, kill yourselves, kill yourselves, kill yourselves. | ||
| You dial into the globalist channel, it's... | ||
| Just like death metal. | ||
| You'd be the best death metal singer ever. | ||
| Hell, I can just dial into their frequency. | ||
| That's all you hear. | ||
| They Live was about Reagan, dude. | ||
| They go, oh, you sound like a schizophrenic. | ||
| Schizophrenics are people that have already fallen to this stuff or can't handle it. | ||
| That's why perception is so narrow. | ||
| Wait, huh? | ||
| Because people can't handle this. | ||
| I'm not the one saying all this. | ||
| San Francisco, big tech, literally worship. | ||
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Compliment your health with... | |
| Got caught by another heartbreak there. | ||
| Sorry about that, Alex. | ||
| I can't get enough of that. | ||
| He almost doesn't know how to do his show anymore. | ||
| I would like 30 more examples of him in the middle of screaming and then it just gets cut off by a random ass. | ||
| I would say it happens... | ||
| More than you think. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| And it almost, it charms me a little bit more than even the ad pivots. | ||
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Oh, absolutely. | |
| Because I'm noticing, like, I'm looking at all our clips and there's no ad pivots, but they happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, they happened throughout the entire two days that we're covering. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But it is more funny to have him cut off in the middle of a passionate sentence. | ||
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So fun. | |
| For a milquetoast weird dumb ad. | ||
| Oh, insane. | ||
| But yeah, so there's a transmission coming that says, kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourself. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They live. | ||
| So, he said at the beginning of this episode that Rogan is going to be on. | ||
| And we've already dealt with the fact that he's not going to come on, so there's no reveal there, necessarily. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But, if you're listening, you probably still think he is coming on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, it's going to be a surprise that an hour later, Mike Adams comes on. | ||
| And Mike Adams, the health ranger, shows up. | ||
| And Alex does this whole little song and dance about, like, hey, Mike Adams. | ||
| Mike Adams, the measles outbreak ranger. | ||
| Hey, you're a big... | ||
| You're a busy guy. | ||
| You have a big business to take care of. | ||
| You're a busy guy. | ||
| Why did you get in touch with me and want to get on today? | ||
| Why is it so important that you get on? | ||
| And so they talk some shit about Joe Rogan. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Then Mike says this. | ||
| And it's important to consider that the way he's talking implies that he was listening to the beginning of the show. | ||
| Because he references... | ||
| He thinks Joe's going to be on. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| He's listened to Alex's talk about these aliens and their agenda. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| This is the health ranger. | ||
| This is going to be wild. | ||
| Well, first, Alex, I want to say that on the cosmic extermination agenda that you have been talking about, I just want to affirm that you are 100% on track, that the call has gone out to exterminate humanity, and this is why Democrats are now pro-infanticide. | ||
| This is why they love the idea of murdering Christians, murdering conservatives, killing Trump. | ||
| They're all about death and execution now because the order has come down. | ||
| From aliens or demons. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| These people are so goddamn stupid. | ||
| White people do not like to lose. | ||
| It's just insane. | ||
| I don't understand it! | ||
| We're white! | ||
| It has to be aliens! | ||
| It's just nuts. | ||
| Like, prove your first concept. | ||
| Like, in any of this stuff. | ||
| Like, prove any of the things you're saying. | ||
| I don't know who you are, Dan, right now. | ||
| Either the Ahab or the whale, but I'm telling you, it doesn't matter. | ||
| There is an invasion, and order has come down for infanticide and killing everybody. | ||
| How old are you people? | ||
| These people are 50! | ||
| Grow the fuck up! | ||
| Mike Adams is 100% older than Alex. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| This is sad. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| This is pathetic. | ||
| It's desperately pathetic. | ||
| I'm bummed. | ||
| Yeah, no shit. | ||
| I'm bummed. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because they're fucking rich as shit. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| It's such a bummer. | ||
| Their scams have been so successful. | ||
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Oh. | |
| These fucking idiots. | ||
| If you heard this, like, some YouTube channel that has, like, 10 viewers, it's like... | ||
| Eh, you win. | ||
| You win some, you lose some, whatever. | ||
| Oh, Dan, we're going to be alright. | ||
| So about three hours into the show, Alex admits... | ||
| Three hours of alien baiting into the show. | ||
| Alex admits that Rogan is not coming on the show. | ||
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Right. | |
| And that it's satire. | ||
| I'm going to host some of the next hour when I will interview Joe Rogan. | ||
| Satire included. | ||
| I'll look for that at the start of the next hour. | ||
| Let's go ahead. | ||
| Joe will be like, And did he? | ||
| Said I was coming on, but I wasn't. | ||
| It wasn't true. | ||
| Told satire, buddy. | ||
| By the way, brought to you by Jack Dorsey's. | ||
| That's not satire. | ||
| That's lying. | ||
| That's just lying. | ||
| That's not satire. | ||
| That's part of the song right here. | ||
| Crank it up. | ||
| Cemetery Gates. | ||
| Anyway, Alex is going to do this bit about Rogan, and it's satire. | ||
| We now know it's satire. | ||
| It's not satire. | ||
| No. | ||
| I really don't think he understands what satire is. | ||
| Satire requires a point. | ||
| It requires a... | ||
| There are certain thresholds you need to meet. | ||
| A concept. | ||
| Just doing something that's not real isn't satire. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's called lying. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I should say, that clip we heard right there, about hour three of the show, he had been saying that Rogan is going to come on for a bit of the show, teasing and sort of implying that he's not, but also saying... | ||
| Rogan is going to be on. | ||
| Yeah, that's just a lie. | ||
| But that's what you do. | ||
| Or a hoax. | ||
| I would even accept hoax. | ||
| If he said, like, we're going to do a bit about Rogan or something like that at the end of the show, that's not teasing something inappropriately. | ||
| He's hoping that some people think that Rogan is actually going to be on in order to boost his ratings because he knows that Rogan is a bigger draw than his own show. | ||
| Right, because he's a liar. | ||
| Right, and so he can get... | ||
| More eyes, more ears on the show. | ||
| Hopefully to listen to the ads until the payoff comes that he's not going to be there. | ||
| And by that point, they've heard him yell about aliens, which is something that maybe Rogan will talk about. | ||
| Maybe he doesn't do that sort of shit off in that Project Camelot bullshit we just heard. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Maybe he entices some of Rogan's listeners with that space talk. | ||
| Maybe he teases them with that carrot that he doesn't usually dangle out. | ||
| Because he knows it's fucking bullshit. | ||
| It's actually Neil deGrasse Tyson we have on. | ||
| What if? | ||
| That would be a brutal, brutal exchange. | ||
| So anyway, there's a lot of satire going on, but one thing that's not satire is that Alex... | ||
| Any of what's going on? | ||
| Well, certainly. | ||
| But that Alex is claiming that last night, when this episode was happening, that Joe called him. | ||
| Joe, this is not satire. | ||
| Joe did call me last night a couple times. | ||
| I had the phone off. | ||
| And I got the messages in the morning. | ||
| And I don't really think there's anything for me and Joe to talk about. | ||
| You know, Joe's like, I apologized to you yesterday. | ||
| If I hurt your feelings or didn't have you on, but you're in a bad place and you're mentally ill. | ||
| Boy, that sounds right. | ||
| That seems like the last message from someone who's trying. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Really just... | ||
| It just feels like... | ||
| That's a friendship breakup right there. | ||
| That's like, hey man, I care about you and I love you and I know we're not... | ||
| It seems like way more than Alex deserves considering the circumstances. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| When that message was sent out, it was after Alex was on air talking about I'm going to politically put him up by his heels and slit his throat like a pig. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| The idea of like, I... | ||
| He apologized for the times that I made fun of you if that hurt you. | ||
| Because he did on his show. | ||
| He's like, I make fun of him because he's funny. | ||
| It's not personal. | ||
| He's a performer. | ||
| We're both in the show business. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| He did try and make that clear. | ||
| To hear these human elements of it and Alex responding with just stone-walled... | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Yeah, this has turned into an episode of Intervention. | ||
| It's brutal. | ||
| This is really brutal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| Hey, Alex, way to tear your life apart around your eyes. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| And that's the other thing, is like, this is one of the only people who would have gone to bat for you. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| It has been for a fucking long time. | ||
| Now, whatever reason you have to do this, Alex, whether it's your desperation for ratings, Whether it's Owen Benjamin's bad advice, or your desire to lash out at Jack because he was on Rogan's podcast. | ||
| Whatever the case is, this is the worst thing you could possibly do. | ||
| This guy cared about you for no reason. | ||
| You didn't deserve that. | ||
| You didn't keep up that relationship over the years, clearly, and he went to bat for you consistently. | ||
| Nah, he was dumb to do that. | ||
| But he did! | ||
| He did! | ||
| He was wrong a lot of the time, but also he was right some of the time. | ||
| He called him out about his Bourdain nonsense. | ||
| When he learned about the Sandy Hook lie that Alex was telling, he pointed that out. | ||
| But he still, even when he criticized, he cared. | ||
| He cared about Alex because he'd known him for years and thought he knew the heart of the man. | ||
| And it turns out, Rogan... | ||
| Didn't know the heart of the man. | ||
|
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No clue. | |
| In this next clip, Alex is pissed off because Joe Rogan isn't even on his goddamn level. | ||
| You understand? | ||
| No. | ||
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You understand me? | |
| I really don't. | ||
| Joe Rogan is so far above his level right now, it's insane. | ||
| Bro! | ||
| Bro! | ||
| Back when Alex was, like, doing documentaries, they had millions of views. | ||
| Everyone loved them. | ||
| At that point... | ||
| He was doing Fear Factor, making people eat balls and stuff like that. | ||
| That is pretty funny, though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Alex is going to try and, like, sort of mix those two ideas up. | ||
| I produced Loose Change that, before they took the view counter down, had 187 million views on Google Video. | ||
| We've got to stop that for a second. | ||
| He produced Loose Change Final Cut. | ||
| There were multiple versions of Loose Change before Alex even got involved. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| I didn't either until months and months ago. | ||
| I always thought, because Alex presented it as like, I was behind that, I produced it. | ||
| No. | ||
| Dylan Avery and Jason Burmis was involved throughout a lot of it. | ||
| Alex only got involved at Final Cut, which was like the fifth version of it. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he's a late adopter of Loose Change, even as an embarrassing documentary about 9-11. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, so Alex... | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| Yeah, not great. | ||
| 187 million views, Joe. | ||
| Back when you were eating donkey testicles on Fear Factor. | ||
| And I made all these other films, hundreds of millions of views, billions and billions of views. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| Oh, oh, please have me on! | ||
| Please, Joe! | ||
| Joe's like, we may have you on if you're good and sit down and you're good. | ||
| Oh, let me sit then. | ||
| Do I get a treat? | ||
| Dude, you weren't on my radar. | ||
| When you pulled all this, you went tracking radar, enemy assessed, targeting operations, enemy propaganda vehicle, destroy with extreme prejudice. | ||
| Like, you just literally just got the program. | ||
| Like, it's like, destroy. | ||
| Headquarters. | ||
| Destroy. | ||
| Enemy. | ||
| Key enemy. | ||
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Maximum commitment. | |
| Prime target. | ||
| Attack. | ||
| Because, you see, it's not just that you're on the higher echelon evil. | ||
| You're almost there, but you are a good pickets. | ||
| You're cleared to fire, Joe. | ||
| What that means is you're dead in my sights, son. | ||
| So this isn't about men acting tough to men and me scaring you and all those other stuff. | ||
| You need to know, as a sneaky snake. | ||
| Sneaky snake. | ||
| Sneaky snake. | ||
| What I'm going to do. | ||
| Show. | ||
| I joked around earlier and I said Joe Rogan is going to be on the show today. | ||
| You lied. | ||
| You didn't joke. | ||
| And then of course I said it was satire. | ||
| He'll spin it and say, Alex lied and said I'd be on. | ||
| I wasn't. | ||
| It's a lie. | ||
| But you won't show the clip. | ||
| It was a lie. | ||
| Because that's what sneaky snakes do. | ||
| So if you're a TV viewer, ladies and gentlemen, Joe Rogan is now in studio with us. | ||
| So it's all like this dumb... | ||
| That's sad. | ||
| I'm sad. | ||
| That sadded me. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| That is sad. | ||
| No, no, totally. | ||
| That is weird and sad. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| That is weird and sad. | ||
| And on some level, I think I'm really insisting we do this episode because on some level, this is the Acro Cats of Alex. | ||
|
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Like, it kind of feels the same way. | |
| I didn't know I could be this disappointed. | ||
|
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Exactly. | |
| When I was listening to this, I was like, fuck. | ||
| God damn it, we're in bad hands. | ||
|
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This is not good. | |
| This is not good. | ||
|
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Jordan, I don't know how to tell you this. | |
| There is a payoff to this episode. | ||
| Like, we can cut through the bullshit. | ||
| There is no Rogan coming or anything like that. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| But Alex does interview fake Joe Rogan. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And this is what I'm talking about. | ||
| Is it him? | ||
| This payoff is as bad as the Astro Cats claiming that they have a cat band. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Because, like, this is two days of preparation that Alex has at his disposal. | ||
| He decided on the 5th that fucking Rogan is dead. | ||
| I am going to destroy him. | ||
| He hasn't brought up any real substantial information or documents or proof of any of the claims that he's making about him. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| The second day, on the 6th, he's like, Rogan is going to be on at the top of the next hour. | ||
| Next hour comes. | ||
| He's going to be on later. | ||
| He keeps pushing it back. | ||
| And we get now to the beginning of the fourth hour. | ||
| So it's the fourth hour. | ||
| He's still on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alright, some shit's going wild. | ||
| He's pushing back the host on the fourth hour to get in what he needs to get in. | ||
| And I thought for sure it was going to be a fucking recorded piece. | ||
| I thought for sure he had sat down between the 5th and the 6th and recorded some sort of dumb thing where it's like, Hi, I'm Alex Jones. | ||
| Hey, Doe, are you cool? | ||
| Nah, bro. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Take audio of Joe and splice it in. | ||
| It would take you and your interns 20 minutes. | ||
| It wouldn't take any effort at all. | ||
| I've done it with Alex in the past. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It would take nothing. | ||
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This is what he did, and it sucks. | |
| So if you're a TV viewer, ladies and gentlemen, Joe Rogan is now in studio with us. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| And let's do a document. | ||
| Can I have a shot closer here, please? | ||
| He's going to be interviewed. | ||
| So it's like, hey, George Soros was on 60 Minutes and said he supported the Nazis. | ||
| No, he didn't. | ||
| George Soros cut Hitler's head off. | ||
| I'm a sneaky snake. | ||
| I mean, this is what it is. | ||
| Are you drunk? | ||
| If you pay Joe enough money in your cash square and Jack Dorsey, which is all confirmed, it's all over the news now, the insider trading investigation is going on. | ||
| If you pay him... | ||
| Like, you know, like you put coins into the snake, then the snake does whatever you want. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Thanks, Alex! | ||
| If you put coins into the snake? | ||
| I'm a sneaky snake now. | ||
| So, again, if you're two of you, this is a not really Joe Rogan. | ||
| This is a, um... | ||
| So that'll be the headline tonight. | ||
| Like, Alex Jones claimed Joe Rogan was on. | ||
| There won't be any headline. | ||
| It really wasn't on. | ||
| Jones engaged in incredible fake news. | ||
| It's not that it's fake news. | ||
| It's just this is sad. | ||
| I kind of want to... | ||
| It's a sad publicity stunt that leads to an embarrassing bit. | ||
| New donor level. | ||
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Sneaky snake. | |
| Sneaky snake. | ||
| I was sneaky snake. | ||
| I kind of actually really like that. | ||
| That sound drop of him being like... | ||
| I'm a sneaky snake! | ||
| That is a children's book level fantastic fun time. | ||
| It's also like the definition of an uninspired Rogan impression. | ||
| That doesn't sound anything like it. | ||
| I'm a sneaky snake! | ||
| I know that I listened to his podcast a ton of time. | ||
| You got Trostle sounding like a hippie weirdo. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Rogan sounding like he needs a glass of water. | ||
| It's always weird. | ||
| He sounds like a guy who's just in a desert. | ||
| Hey, I'm right talking. | ||
| I ain't talking! | ||
| I have never listened to Joe Rogan's podcast. | ||
| I find a number of episodes fun. | ||
| Most of them. | ||
| I think if you listen to some of them with Duncan Trussell, you'd enjoy those. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then there are a ton of episodes. | ||
| Everybody enjoys Duncan Trussell talking. | ||
| There's a ton of episodes that you would enjoy. | ||
| That's the problem with Rogan. | ||
| No, I believe it. | ||
| There's a ton of episodes. | ||
| Because when Rogan's in good company... | ||
| He's not a shithead. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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When he's talking to shitheads, he falls for what shitheads say. | |
| Right. | ||
|
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People with ill will are able to trick him into thinking that what they're saying means something. | |
| Right. | ||
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Because he doesn't have an editorial process to his podcast. | |
| He assumes that everybody has good will when they're talking to him. | ||
| And when he has liars in to talk to him, it's unchallenged, unquestioned things. | ||
| It's just a problem. | ||
| I assume there's a certain lack of guile to him as well, where if he's talking to you and you're saying things, he wants to believe that you know what you're talking about. | ||
| Yeah, and maybe it's too much trust. | ||
| I mean, if you're really good friends with Alex for a long time, you have a certain lack of guile to you. | ||
| Or a lot of guile! | ||
| Or you've overblown what your friendship actually was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What do you think their friendship actually was? | ||
| Like, Rogan's lived in LA for years. | ||
| Alex has lived in Austin for years. | ||
| How many times do you fucking think they actually talked? | ||
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Right. | |
| Every time that Rogan comes through Austin to tour? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is once a year at best? | ||
|
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Eh. | |
| At best? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex never leaves Austin, except for the times he does publicity stunts in D.C. or... | ||
| Very specific publicity stunts in Seattle. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| So he's never coming to LA to meet up with Rogan and have dinner. | ||
| They're not good friends. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They have a friendship that's based on... | ||
| The time that they've been friends. | ||
| They've been friends for 20 years, so they've been friends for 20 years. | ||
| It's not like they've actually been good, good friends for those 20 years. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's not to say any of this isn't sincere. | ||
| I can't possibly pretend to understand what the two of them actually have done or know each other behind the scenes. | ||
| But it strikes me as like... | ||
| Rogan's being an adult about this, and Alex isn't. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| They had an expectation of what their relationship was. | ||
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Alex is being a sneaky snake. | |
| Yeah, that's exactly right. | ||
| Alex is being a sneaky snake. | ||
| Alex is being a sneaky snake. | ||
| Because he needs ratings, and he knows that Joe can help him. | ||
| Now, you should know one thing, and that is that Alex Jones is a man who cannot be bought. | ||
| You think I want to be part of your system. | ||
| When I want to burn you down. | ||
| Triple S. And your bosses have figured that out. | ||
| Like, Alex Jones is not for sale. | ||
| It's already sold out. | ||
| I signed on to the big command base, right? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Oh, is that God? | ||
| I signed on to that. | ||
| I'm just lucky. | ||
| I mean, I'm brushed up against people like you so much. | ||
| I can't believe I'm dirty rags. | ||
| I can't believe God even accepts me. | ||
| We have specials on gold right now. | ||
| Let me just tell you that. | ||
| And I'm counting on it every moment. | ||
| That God says, you attack these people and you take it to them all the way. | ||
| Maybe I let you be with us. | ||
| I'm like, yes, sir. | ||
| Please take full control of me. | ||
| And God goes, I don't do that. | ||
| You're going to have to do this. | ||
| And I'm just like, okay. | ||
| So you're all trying to take DMT and get in contact with little floating retard demons from the pit of hell. | ||
| And I just want you to know, Joe, that there's a whole other dimension and then on from that. | ||
| And you're just... | ||
| Not making the cut, Joe. | ||
| I mean, do you really think in higher dimensions you see Joe Rogan walking around? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, maybe he's got platform shoes that go up to the next dimension, like elevators. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I mean, when you're walking around heaven on a big command base and you're like, oh my God, I wish I'd known this. | ||
| You're like, yeah, get to the field. | ||
| We're got a huge attack coming in. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| I mean, imagine when you get to the next level and you're like, oh my God, I'd know what it was. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
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Huh? | |
| What? | ||
| What? | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Heaven has a command base? | ||
| Apparently it's a spaceship where there's battles going on. | ||
| That doesn't seem like heaven to me. | ||
| That seems terrifying. | ||
| I really think he thinks higher dimensions means up. | ||
| It does seem that way. | ||
| It seems like it's all vertical. | ||
| It seems like he's got a very two-dimensional view of higher dimensions, if you will. | ||
| Do you think you see Joe Rogan in the higher dimension? | ||
| If he's wearing platform shoes, is that good? | ||
| Is that bad? | ||
| Where do you buy these shoes? | ||
| That allow you to get to the next dimension? | ||
| From the Sneaky Snake store. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like a real upgrade. | ||
| It seems like something you buy in a video game that gives you a boost. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| He's got the jumping boots from Super Mario. | ||
| Yeah, he's like, I can't be bought, man. | ||
| I've already been bought by God. | ||
| That sort of shit. | ||
| Like, is God into MLMs? | ||
| Like, is God into scams? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I think his God is, because his God apparently lives on a fucking spaceship or whatever. | ||
| That is so crazy to me. | ||
| This is creepy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, we have one more clip. | ||
| And when you were talking about... | ||
| In the middle of that clip, you were like, this is all that you... | ||
| Give me your money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| This is where it really comes down to. | ||
| Alex is probably feeling that he's going to go out of business. | ||
| And on the end of the 6th, we get sort of the prestige. | ||
| We get the reveal of why he keeps talking shit on Rogan. | ||
| Because he needs these people to come in and keep watering the coffers and what have you. | ||
| Because this next clip is the reality that he lives in. | ||
| This is the reality. | ||
| And I can tell you right now that we didn't expand the shows last year like I intended. | ||
| We didn't launch all the new stuff. | ||
| Anyway, I'll just tell Roger in front of God and country. | ||
| I already told Paul this two days ago. | ||
| Paul and Roger Stone are on the chopping block. | ||
| Because the money's not there. | ||
| Money's not coming in to pay some of our employees. | ||
| And, you know, I thought about this a lot. | ||
| It'll give the enemy a lot of excitement. | ||
| You know, like, oh, no crap you're getting to us. | ||
| My God, you already took most of our bank accounts away. | ||
| We can't advertise online. | ||
| All we've got is the listeners. | ||
| People say, well, we don't want to bet on a loser. | ||
| Well, then you just bet on yourself being a loser. | ||
| Because InfoWars is a standard in the fight. | ||
| It's seen as a symbol, a signet, a logo, a archetype. | ||
| He needs Lionel's Thesaurus. | ||
| That must be brought down. | ||
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And... | |
| Thesaurus! | ||
| You know, a six-shot of me has been in the fight. | ||
| Twenty... | ||
| Four years on air. | ||
| And the sick side of me is just, like, the responsibility of, like, I get up earlier in the morning easier than I ever did. | ||
| And you're a kid, you can't get out of bed now. | ||
| It's like, I just get up because there's a mission. | ||
| I'll be laying in bed with God. | ||
| This bed feels incredible. | ||
| I've got to fight together. | ||
| And so all I'm telling listeners is, in me, you've got an AI attack robot made of flesh and blood that is completely committed to fighting the globalist. | ||
| But I need fuel. | ||
| And the spectrum of media and systems, if you don't put fuel in the jet tank, I can't drop bombs on George Soros. | ||
| Land that money bomb. | ||
| I mean, I'll be stuck on the tarmac fantasizing about dropping bombs until the day I die. | ||
| But I want to drop weapons, information weapons, not violent weapons. | ||
| I want to engage and engage and engage and engage until the cows come home. | ||
| But I need... | ||
| We already have great products you need. | ||
| We already have Brain Force. | ||
| We already have Turbo Force through the product. | ||
| Woof. | ||
| 50% off. | ||
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Woof. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that's what it comes down to. | ||
| All this is like... | ||
| This is pageantry. | ||
| But it is gross because it's so effective. | ||
| And it's a good strategy. | ||
| What he's doing is a really good strategy of trying to attack Rogan and make it look like, hey, we're going to have a war with each other. | ||
| The only thing that's going to subvert that possibility is, I hope Rogan doesn't respond. | ||
| I hope that he responds to it the way you were saying. | ||
| He hears that and is like, that's crazy. | ||
| That's... | ||
| Clearly an attempt to... | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It just says, no. | ||
| This one's too obvious, buddy. | ||
| Too much. | ||
| And that everyone sort of dies down on it. | ||
| Like, in terms of... | ||
| I've seen so many goddamn posts on Twitter and Facebook and people messaging me about it and stuff like that that, like, I want to tell them all, like, cool it. | ||
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Cool. | |
| I wish there was a better way to say this than, like, get your instincts in order. | ||
| Like, get your instincts in order. | ||
| Because you need to understand how these people who have ill will operate. | ||
| This is a classic troll operation done large scale. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And what is so appealing about it is how interesting it is. | ||
| It's so interesting, the idea that Alex Jones is declaring war on... | ||
| Joe Rogan. | ||
| The idea is Alex's listeners have been aware or have been made aware of Joe's bullshit. | ||
| They listen to Alex's show. | ||
| They hear him go, oh shit, I'm gonna start a war. | ||
| So then they listen to the next episode of Rogan's podcast and they're like, how is Joe gonna respond to this? | ||
| And then, because the listeners of Joe Rogan's podcast are like, wait, this is two episodes of him bitch-talking. | ||
| And so then they go and listen to Alex's show. | ||
| That's the whole fucking goal here. | ||
| And Alex is willing to destroy what is probably a meaningless friendship anyways. | ||
| Well, to one side at least. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It seems like it's meaningful to Joe in some level, but it means nothing to Alex. | ||
| It means nothing to Alex. | ||
| He already said, like, in the first episode, on the fifth, I don't like you. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I feel guilty that I ever liked you. | ||
| That sort of thing is like, fucking wow. | ||
| So he's just going to try and keep needling Joe until Joe responds. | ||
| That's the main goal here. | ||
| So the presentation of this, the idea of creating this war, you're right. | ||
| It's the idea that people will go bounce back and forth. | ||
| See the response, see the response. | ||
| But what the the benefit of it is the bounce back that comes to what Alex's response is going to be. | ||
| So he knows that people will probably go listen to Rogan's show. | ||
| And so he doesn't care about like driving traffic to them. | ||
| Right. | ||
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If the two of them are in a hot feud, it doesn't matter if they both get over using wrestling terms. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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Like if they both get over in the process, I'm still fucking over. | |
| I might have lost the feud or whatever, but I still get over. | ||
| It's pathetic. | ||
| But I just pray. | ||
| I pray. | ||
| I don't pray. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| You don't pray. | ||
| But I would hope that Rogan would know better than to engage much further. | ||
| I will say this. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
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Look, if they take down Netanyahu, that's the canary in the coal mine. | |
| It's time to pray. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| I want to say, at the end of this, I don't really know how much value this holds. | ||
| I don't know if this was a great episode. | ||
| But it was the episode I needed to do. | ||
| Coming back from a vacation, really jumping back into Alex's stuff, I thought that this was more important to talk about than the State of the Union stuff. | ||
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Because a lot of that is just exactly what you'd expect. | |
| And so this is... | ||
| I have to drive this message home very strongly. | ||
| Don't fall for tricks. | ||
| This is tricks. | ||
| This is all tricks. | ||
| This is nonsense. | ||
| You want to say it's trolling, but it's really not. | ||
| It's satire. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| Satire starts with an S. Which I still don't understand what that means. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| I really want to. | ||
| I want to find out the etymology of that bullshit. | ||
| I would love it. | ||
| It's probably from another fucking novel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Sure. | |
| It's actually from Moby Dick. | ||
| No, I think it's from... | ||
| Call me Ishmael with an I. It's from some Dickens shit. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| It's from some Dickens shit. | ||
| The official editorial position of Knowledge Fight. | ||
| It's probably from some Dickens shit. | ||
| That's how you know I'm done with a riff. | ||
| It's from some Dickens shit. | ||
| It's from some sick dork. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So anyway, I don't know. | ||
| My whole position on this is stop talking about this. | ||
| That's what I would say. | ||
| We'll be back next week. | ||
| You know what you shouldn't stop talking about? | ||
| We have some very strong episodes coming up next week that we've had in the works and don't have the burden of my vacation haunting them. | ||
| And I appreciate everyone enjoying this, I'm sure, and listening to this episode. | ||
| But we'll be back next week with Back to Regular. | ||
| Back to Regular Knowledge Fight. | ||
| Full strength. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I keep wanting to spoil things. | ||
| I know you can't do any of it. | ||
| But we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| I'll spoil this. | ||
| There's a lot of information on there. | ||
| If you go to the things to enjoy section of the website, the little drop down menu, we have a wiki in there. | ||
| Oh shit! | ||
| A bunch of information about Alex Jones and his friends. | ||
| I'm so proud of you. | ||
| Because you've never plugged the wiki before. | ||
| I've recently learned it might be valuable. | ||
| As a concept, an idea. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| There is a fantastic wiki put together by Dan after working for a ridiculous length of time. | ||
| And you can also go to... | ||
| We also have many other websites, apparently. | ||
| You can go to fillyourhand.com. | ||
| AlexJonesShow.us. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| There's a third one. | ||
| There's an InfoWars. | ||
| It's InfoWars. | ||
| It's InfoWars with a Z, maybe? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| No, I think it's NFOWars.com. | ||
| I think that's what it is. | ||
| There was another one I saw that was awesome. | ||
| I appreciate everyone redirecting his website. | ||
| Everyone doing that is incredible. | ||
| You're amazing. | ||
| I like it so much. | ||
| We also have a Twitter page. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| At Knowledge Underscore Fight. | ||
| It's an at Knowledge Underscore Fight. | ||
| We're also on Facebook. | ||
| We are on Facebook. | ||
| There's a Facebook group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother Your Bellion. | ||
| Which is awesome. | ||
| And I was gone for a long time. | ||
| Not a long time, but a couple days. | ||
| And I didn't check in on the site. | ||
| I didn't check in on the Facebook at all. | ||
| And I came back and everything was fine. | ||
| Everyone behaved themselves for the most part, which is nice. | ||
| It's weird for an internet community, you know? | ||
| Like a lot of people are shitheads and they end up destroying everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, if you've joined our group, make sure that you only tell good people because so far we're fucking killing it with good people and one shithead and we're going to start going ham. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Or also on iTunes, and please leave a review, subscribe, all that good stuff. | ||
| But I'll tell you what you need to remember. | ||
| What do you need to remember? | ||
| I'll tell you there's one thing you need to remember. | ||
| Jordan, do you have something to remember? | ||
| I will tell you this. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Oh, you son of a bitch. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| This isn't about the ending. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Go, go, go, go, go, go. | ||
| This isn't about the ending. | ||
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All right. | |
| I just want to say we've already finished the show, so I just want to talk about this. | ||
| Did you hear about Bezos having a dick pic out there? | ||
| Oh, yeah, of course. | ||
| What do you think about that? | ||
| Good for him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Now what were you going to say? | ||
| I'll tell you one dick that has technically probably never killed a guy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And that's Jeff Bezos' dick. | ||
| I bet he hasn't murdered anybody. | ||
| I bet his dick hasn't. | ||
| Also, I bet... | ||
| Well, his policies have led to... | ||
| And his business is probably 100% led to death. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no, 100%. | ||
| By his hands or dick. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm speaking specifically just the dick. | ||
| One dick has not killed a guy. | ||
| Don't do this. | ||
| I will tell you one dick who has killed a guy. | ||
| It wasn't Alex's dick. | ||
| Oh, so you're not understanding how a double entendre works. | ||
| I do understand. | ||
| So in one case, I'm speaking specifically of the dick. | ||
| But in the other case, I'm speaking of the, let's call it synecdoche, of the dick representing the man. | ||
| And that dick, representing the man, has probably technically killed a guy, and that's Alex Jones. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |