Today, Dan and Jordan discuss what Alex Jones was up to in the beginning of April 2009. As it turns out, he was obsessing about the bathroom habits of Queen Elizabeth and serving as a distributor for corporate propaganda. Also, Alex becomes increasingly worried that the right wing media is starting to steal his act.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
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Dan? | |
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| What was the last time you smoked a cigar? | ||
| Last time? | ||
| Oh, that is a great question. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| The answer is never. | ||
| Moving on! | ||
| It's been forever. | ||
| It's been forever. | ||
| The only reason I ever bought cigars would be chop them up, make a blunt, get a white owl, make a swisher, make a blunt out of it. | ||
| Hold on there, too cool for school. | ||
| A Garcia Vega? | ||
| Go down there. | ||
| I've never been a big cigar guy. | ||
| I started smoking with a pipe because I was very pretentious. | ||
| Oh yeah, I did the same thing. | ||
| In high school, a couple of my friends started smoking and I was like, well, I want to join you but I'm also... | ||
| Above this. | ||
| Yes, yes, of course. | ||
| So I got a Sherlock Holmes pipe, and it was gross. | ||
| And I always associated pipes and cigars as being similar in the way that you don't really inhale. | ||
| It's more of a mouth thing. | ||
| It's kind of gross. | ||
| I never really got much of a charge out of it, so I don't know. | ||
| I've probably smoked three actual cigars in my life, and I was faking it every time. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You a cigar boy? | ||
| I think the last time I had a cigar, where I was like... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm going to fucking smoke this cigar. | ||
| And not one of those where you light it up and you're like, I've already done this wrong and I throw it away. | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| It was at my friend's wedding. | ||
| And I remember being out in the back of this courtyard area. | ||
| And my friend's wife's dad, his new father-in-law, came up to me and started saying some really creepy shit to me. | ||
| Like what? | ||
| Um, he told me way too much about what he knew about his daughter's previous sex life. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That version of creepy. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Not like, hey, you know what a human tastes like? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Not like the, hey, you want to see a dead body? | ||
| Sort of a past implication creepy as opposed to a, you want to get into something? | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I'm not sure which would be better. | ||
| Both are bad. | ||
| Well, Scar's not going to help. | ||
| You want to start an underground fight club at this wedding? | ||
| Do you want to get in there? | ||
| That could be a revenue stream. | ||
| We talked about that before the show. | ||
| No, I don't know. | ||
| Scars suck, but what doesn't suck is our donors. | ||
| I'd like to take a second here to give a shout-out to a couple of new people who signed up with the show. | ||
| Mike T., thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, Mike. | ||
| Also, I'd like to say thank you to JT. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, J.T. Also, Luke. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Luke. | ||
| Thank you very much, Luke T. Finally, you get two in a row. | ||
| It rolls off the tongue. | ||
| Finally, I'd like to take a second to thank someone who came in on a little bit of an elevated level, and we appreciate it oh so very much. | ||
| So, Lord Nikon, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
| He's a loser little titty baby. | ||
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you, Lord Nikon. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Nikon, like the camera? | ||
| N-Y-K-O-N. | ||
| N-Y-K-O-N? | ||
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All right, all right. | |
| Thank you so much. | ||
| If you are listening out there and you'd like to support the show and what we do and become a policy wonk, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking that support the show button. | ||
| We would appreciate it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Something we need to do before this show starts is I want to say we've been... | ||
| Start an underground fight club at this wedding. | ||
| That would not be... | ||
| I don't want to do that. | ||
| Okay, all right. | ||
| I got a glass jaw. | ||
| That's why I hide behind this beard. | ||
| All right, fight, fight, fight. | ||
| Look. | ||
| We've been doing this show for two years, and I have never received the amount of negative feedback that we got from our last episode about how we... | ||
| I'm sorry, I forgot. | ||
| It's not Chumbalumba! | ||
| We need to give an apology to Chumbawamba. | ||
| We implied that they had fascist leanings. | ||
| Yep, that's our bad. | ||
| And it turns out that we had mixed up in our minds because Chumbawamba apparently are anarchist types. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| And we were thinking of Ace of Base. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And we just completely fucked up. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Apologies to Chumbawamba. | ||
| I've always defended you as being better than just tub thumping. | ||
| That was the song. | ||
| I get knocked down, but I get up. | ||
| Oh, I thought that was the name of the album. | ||
| It also was the name of the album. | ||
| Okay, well, the album wasn't terrible. | ||
| No, I think the album overall was pretty good. | ||
| Anyway, we don't need to go this far into it. | ||
| We can just say apologies that we met. | ||
| Apologies to Chumbawamba. | ||
| Very triggered. | ||
| Go fuck yourself, Ace of Base. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Apologies to Chumbawamba. | ||
| Our audience took that very poorly. | ||
| I don't know how we fostered this pro-Chumbawamba audience, but that was... | ||
| That was intense. | ||
| That was a deluge of messages. | ||
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From people who are like, hey, I don't know if you realize this, but Chumbawamba is pretty cool. | |
| Sorry. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Anyway, I enjoy interacting, and I don't mind people correcting us when we're wrong. | ||
| It's just so funny that this is the thing. | ||
| I didn't realize that the Venn diagram between rabid Chumbawamba fans and Knowledge Fight fans was so strong. | ||
| I'm cool with that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| No, absolutely. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we are in the past. | ||
| We are going to the past, and thankfully we are out of March. | ||
| Now we are into April. | ||
| So today's episode will cover April 1st and 2nd, 2009, which is very exciting. | ||
| There's a couple things in this that I take great pleasure in being able to go over, and some things that I think are lame as hell, but we can laugh at. | ||
| Let's see how it goes. | ||
| So, we begin on April Fool's Day. | ||
| My man. | ||
| April 1st. | ||
| I always love tuning in for an April Fool's Day episode of Alex's show. | ||
| Because, I mean, we heard it on Friday's episode. | ||
| You're going to need to sell this really hard. | ||
| Well, he clearly pulled a prank on Owen Schroer on our last show. | ||
| I really, I get why we consider that a prank. | ||
| I think that Alex has... | ||
| Humor is not involved in it. | ||
| No, he's not a humorist, man. | ||
| But I think he has a playful streak to him. | ||
| I think he has a cantankerous little troublemaker inside him. | ||
| And so I always think that April Fool's Day is going to bring it out of him. | ||
| And I always think, I've listened to like four or five April Fool's Day episodes just hoping for a prank or something, and it never fucking happens, and it doesn't happen today. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| But instead we do get to learn about what's happening in the right-wing media sphere outside of Infowars. | ||
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Oh, okay, that's nice. | |
| I think it's very interesting. | ||
| It's good to check in on them. | ||
| Ann Coulter has endorsed Congressman Ron Paul for 2012. | ||
| She says she supports him on, quote, every issue. | ||
| Of course, she and others attacked him during the campaign. | ||
| See, this is what they were doing. | ||
| Back when we could have stopped the New World Order and it could have been done with getting Ron Paul elected. | ||
| I mean, if they were unable to assassinate him. | ||
| We could have pulled out of the United Nations, federalized the Federal Reserve. | ||
| It's not federal. | ||
| We could have reversed all this. | ||
| He was right about it all, covering the New World Order, just like we were covering in here. | ||
| Going off the globalist-owned documents, and now Ann Coulter is endorsing Ron Paul. | ||
| Fox News has him on every other day. | ||
| CNN has him on constantly, and they're trying to act like they're with the American people against the bankers when they're owned by the bankers. | ||
| Controlled opposition, these guys all are. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, Alex is starting to see a lot of... | ||
| Alex is starting to see a lot of his rhetoric creeping into the right-wing media. | ||
| That entire world that he has always seen himself in opposition to, he's starting to see his narratives being mirrored there. | ||
| He saw it earlier with Glenn Beck and sort of thought that was an isolated case. | ||
| But now, as the Tea Party becomes more out and out in public, I mean, we're a month and a half past the original, like, huge push. | ||
| The Tea Party's all over the country. | ||
| So as it starts to grow, we've already heard indications that Glenn Beck's got his 9-12 movement starting. | ||
| The pieces are starting to fall into place. | ||
| And Alex is seeing a lot of his shit. | ||
| His laundry is being aired, but he doesn't like who's doing that laundry. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As Fox News gradually came to terms with the black president, they realized that it was time to start sounding like Alex Jones. | ||
| I don't know what exactly the reason is, but yeah, who knows if that's why we need a bigger boat, maybe, you know, that sort of thing. | ||
| It's like we have this black president we're super afraid of. | ||
| Our pissant shit isn't going to work. | ||
| He's wearing a stupid suit. | ||
| Nuh-uh. | ||
| How about we be out and out racist? | ||
| And we need a secret government as the boat, or whatever. | ||
| We need Alex's globalist sort of, what would you call it? | ||
| The skeleton of a house in order to build this. | ||
| The framework. | ||
| You need the girders that Alex has. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Whatever propaganda Fox News is going to try and pull isn't going to fly. | ||
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Uh-uh. | |
| They don't have the foundation in place, and Alex has been working for 15, 18 years at this point building that fucking foundation. | ||
| Right, because what Fox News had to realize, like, what they had to do, what they realized they had to do was, one, illegitimize a black president and say that he can't actually be president because he's black. | ||
| Blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever other reasons they want to make up. | ||
| But he's also, he has to be all-powerful and a tyrant while at the same time being ineffectual and non-existent. | ||
| They realize the effectiveness of that. | ||
| Half-sick, half-alive dichotomy that Alex gets his audience in. | ||
| Alex has been doing that through the Bush years. | ||
| They were just a mouthpiece like they are now, but Alex has been there from the beginning. | ||
| Yeah, there's an interesting thing, and I mean, who knows how much of that is intentional at all. | ||
| I wouldn't come out here and say that Fox News looked at Alex and said, let's get us some of that or anything like that. | ||
| It could be pure coincidence that just, how do we make this more extreme? | ||
| Oh, here's a possibility. | ||
| It doesn't mean that they're ripping off Alex, but Alex sees it for sure as he's being ripped off. | ||
| Yeah, it's more like the American public saw what Alex was doing and was like, I want me some of that, but I don't want Alex to be giving it to me. | ||
| I would prefer it was a blonde white woman. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| It filled that hole. | ||
| You know, supply and demand. | ||
| There was a demand for non-Alex Alex in Fox News. | ||
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Somehow... | |
| A Megyn Kelly, a blonde white woman spouting bigotry, just ascended into the stratosphere! | ||
| Yeah, so I'm interested to track how this goes, but I'm sure it's just going to be Alex's mad about everything. | ||
| But interestingly, on this same episode here, on April 1st, where Alex realizes sort of the Fox News, the CNN, I don't know why he's lumping in CNN there. | ||
| I think this might be back when Glenn Beck was on CNN. | ||
| I think that's possible. | ||
| Glenn Beck was on CNN. | ||
| Yeah, he was on Headline News. | ||
| CNN Headline News for a bit. | ||
| But look, the thing is, on this same episode, Alex does something that I have not heard him do ever. | ||
| And this is a seismic moment in Alex Jones' research. | ||
| Because this is a turning point. | ||
| The key leaders of the anarchist group in England are openly and publicly, this is even in mainstream news, funded by George Soros, the Ford Foundation, and others. | ||
| Just like they funded the weathermen. | ||
| Interestingly, he had a harder time making that argument when Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground was in studio, and he said, I don't know, what the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| And Alex had no information to back up his claims of all these nefarious organizations funding them. | ||
| We have never heard Alex say something that overt about Soros being a boogeyman puppet master. | ||
| So mark it down in your calendars. | ||
| April 1st, 2009 is the first time in our travels that we have heard that. | ||
| That's as... | ||
| Early as we can find. | ||
| 4-1, Soros begins. | ||
| Now, it's interesting to me the way he phrases it, because whenever he's talked about these big bad guys before, we've heard it a hundred times, it's the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds, the Rockefeller Foundation. | ||
| They're the ones doing it. | ||
| This phrasing is very familiar to me in present and further down the line, sort of linguistic patterns. | ||
| But Soros, Ford Foundation, and others, that is new to me. | ||
| I don't know if it means anything. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| I need to give it some more examination. | ||
| Do you mean that particular phrasing of it? | ||
| That clustering. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And the way that he rolls those as a... | ||
| One, two, three are the ones who are doing it. | ||
| That we've heard now a million times. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But the way I would expect it to come out, if he's adding Soros into it, would be Soros, the Rockefellers, the Rockefeller Foundation. | ||
| Or even the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, and Soros now. | ||
| Any of those things is possible. | ||
| But instead, Soros takes front and center right away. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And part of this could be a blip in the radar. | ||
| It's entirely possible, because George Soros did come out and do an interview that I think was ill-advised, because of the propaganda that could be made about it, where he was talking about how he was having a great recession because of the bets that he'd made. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You know, he was like, I... | ||
| Did call a bunch of stuff. | ||
| He's still a billionaire. | ||
| Go fuck it. | ||
| He didn't go fuck himself. | ||
| He didn't cause the recession. | ||
| He didn't do anything evil. | ||
| You shouldn't have said that, George. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| And then the other thing, too, is he had a lot of feelings about the G20 and how it was one of the last opportunities to save the global economy and that sort of thing. | ||
| And so he was in the news around G20 2009. | ||
| So I also consider the possibility that this isn't where the George Soros is. | ||
| This is just a reaction to him showing up in the news for a bit. | ||
| I think so, but it's weird. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| The Soros-Ford Foundation combo there is weird. | ||
| Just throwing him in as a lead player is weird, but I don't know. | ||
| We'll see what transpires. | ||
| Alex has got a lot of feelings about G20. | ||
| And one of the things about them is something we already discussed in 2009 episodes. | ||
| There's actually 18. Secretly, two of those countries don't even exist. | ||
| Shadow countries. | ||
| So Alex has been real hot and bothered about the G20 summit over there in England. | ||
| He's been making a big deal out of how Obama's going to go and meet with the Queen. | ||
| He's been lying about all that stuff. | ||
| He's going to bow. | ||
| Bowing. | ||
| Bow! | ||
| Like a cuck. | ||
| And then the G20 stuff, his big main point is that these G20 protesters, they're all apparently paid by Soros. | ||
| They're all fake opposition to the G20. | ||
| In order to discredit real opposition to the G20. | ||
| Which is him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In his conception. | ||
| And only him. | ||
| Only him. | ||
| And Ron Paul, I guess. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Those are the only people who have it right. | ||
| Everybody else is a bunch of posers and Johnny Come Latelys or something like that. | ||
| They're all a bunch of Ann Coulters. | ||
| Couldn't they just be like regular anarchists, though? | ||
| I mean, they could be, but Alex doesn't believe so. | ||
| And there's one way he knows that they're not regular anarchists, and that is they don't fit the physical description of all real anarchists. | ||
| One has to see it to believe it. | ||
| I have experienced it. | ||
| Come on, let's riot! | ||
| Let's do something! | ||
| Oh, they're shoving on people. | ||
| It's two giant 6 '5", 6 '6 guys in ski masks and a real... | ||
| Anarchist weighs about 110 pounds, has zoops all over them. | ||
| They're on methamphetamine. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And they're always led by, you know, foundation handlers. | ||
| On leashes. | ||
| Who are wearing the gar, but they're always openly Marxist. | ||
| And they'll say, get back, Jones, we'll soon kill you. | ||
| You ever see that Jet Li movie? | ||
| These are cops. | ||
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He's like, that's right, they work with us, and we're taking America over. | |
| And one thing we do, you're dead. | ||
| He thought he intimidated me, some little pot-bellied, red-bearded commie. | ||
| I thought he was an anarchist. | ||
| I said, well go ahead and take your best shot, commie. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You misunderstood the story. | ||
| This is a different... | ||
| A chubby, red-bearded commie slash Marxist is out there, and he is the one who's leading the emaciated anarchists or something. | ||
| No, the fake anarchists. | ||
| The fake anarchists who are very large. | ||
| Because the fake anarchists are large. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And so he talks to the leader, who is the red-bearded, pot-bellied Marxist, and he's like, Yeah, I know. | ||
| I know the foundation. | ||
| I know. | ||
| We're going to kill you. | ||
| I don't believe any of this. | ||
| I don't understand anybody who would do any of the actions that he said. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I do understand it in the context of trolling. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If someone was fucking with Alex, I understand that entirely. | ||
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For sure. | |
| But yeah, that unfolding is a real series of events. | ||
| I just can't. | ||
| I can't go for that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Of course, young Santa Claus is going to troll Alex all day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, nonsense, Alex. | ||
| But, you know... | ||
| Why does he think anarchists weigh 110 pounds? | ||
| I guess he met one, maybe. | ||
| Is that a stereotype that none of us knew about that? | ||
| Oh, yeah, you know... | ||
| Oh, this guy, he looks like a real anarchist over there with his zits and his meth. | ||
| I don't think it's a real stereotype in any way, but I think it has to just be proof of Alex having met one anarchist and he thinks they're all like that. | ||
| Or maybe two... | ||
| Maybe he met an anarchist couple that were real svelte and maybe smoked meth. | ||
| And he's like, oh, that's what they all are like. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| So that's a lot of his... | ||
| He has Steve Watson on for a really sleepy G20 update, and I just don't want to listen to that at all. | ||
| They're basically just saying that all the pictures you see of, like, protesters bloodied and stuff like that, it's all fake. | ||
| That's paint. | ||
| That's paint. | ||
| That's not even blood. | ||
| That's all show acting. | ||
| Let's just paint. | ||
| I mean, get some pig's blood or something. | ||
| Like, sell it. | ||
| Meanwhile, point of order, a dude died. | ||
| That wasn't fake at all. | ||
| False flag. | ||
| False flag. | ||
| So that's most of the G20 stuff because Alex gets distracted a bit of the way through the show by TV coverage of Obama showing up at Buckingham Palace. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| And Alex is just doing his British voice all over the place. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He's having a great time talking about, oh, this is so fancy, oh, all that stuff. | ||
| Then he decides he's going to blow everyone's mind. | ||
| If you don't believe me, get a pen and paper out. | ||
| I'm going to tell this right now. | ||
| I have one. | ||
| Not to be gross or not to be silly or not to be Python-esque. | ||
| Sounds like you're going to be all three. | ||
| You know, Saturday Night Live. | ||
| This is real. | ||
| This is real. | ||
| In fact, they've even made a joke about it. | ||
| They have that thing called Mr. Show on HBO. | ||
| Where they're treating a guy as royalty and they're wiping his hind in for him in the restaurant. | ||
| He doesn't have to leave the table. | ||
| We ought to pull that skit up online or something. | ||
| But the point is, and we've done deep research on this, they still have their butts wiped for them. | ||
| Now, if you don't believe me, you Google groom of the stool. | ||
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You cannot make this up. | |
| You will be reading mainstream university websites, mainstream news articles. | ||
| It's called the groom of the stool. | ||
| I am not going to bore our listeners with a discussion of why Alex is wrong about this and how it ended centuries ago, the practice of the groom of the stool, which was a respected position because it wasn't so much just wiping the queen's ass or the king's ass. | ||
| It was a close advisory position. | ||
| Someone had to be with the royal at all times and all that back then. | ||
| Sometimes you wipe a little ass along the way. | ||
| That happens. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| And it doesn't exist anymore. | ||
| Alex is so caught up in the idea that it does, and he is so defensive about the idea that people won't believe him that he spends at least an hour talking about the groom of the stool. | ||
| So, not only does he spend an hour on it or so, he also has to call in a bunch of staff to back him up. | ||
| It's kind of crazy that he would do that, because that sounds exactly like something somebody who was 110 pounds on meth would start talking about for about an hour. | ||
| Yeah, it also... | ||
| Conversely, kind of sounds like a Mr. Show sketch. | ||
| Broadcaster who is defensive about people not believing him. | ||
| So he brings in his own employees to back them up. | ||
| Hey, can we bring up that Mr. Show sketch? | ||
| We gotta get that one online. | ||
| We don't have rights. | ||
| But in this first clip of that series, Alex brings in Aaron Dykes to talk about this. | ||
| And here's what he's gotta say. | ||
| I mean, this is filth. | ||
| This is the New World Order. | ||
| Aaron? | ||
| We're going live to the scene with you, Aaron. | ||
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But our own presidents have their stool guarded by national security forces. | |
| That's right. | ||
| We did a deeper study. | ||
| George Bush, he reincorporated Grim of the Stool. | ||
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Because it can also be used to examine medical weaknesses. | |
| That's right. | ||
| He has a special toilet. | ||
| Don't believe me. | ||
| Just type, President has portable toilet. | ||
| And he's got to have it carted around. | ||
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In fact, when he's at Big Mobile Sermons, they have to cart it around behind me. | |
| State secrets of the stool. | ||
| Well, it's all about worshipping them. | ||
| Just, oh, even, you know. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I think some listeners probably don't believe us. | ||
| I've looked it up, too, as you know. | ||
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Groom of the stool. | |
| Remember when I first told you a few months ago and you guys didn't believe it and you Googled it? | ||
| It's strange, yeah. | ||
| It is strange. | ||
| Here's the interesting dynamic that's at play here. | ||
| Alex is wrong about everything that he's saying. | ||
| Aaron Dykes is actually right. | ||
| The president does, and this is pretty consistent among a lot of heads of state. | ||
| They don't let their shit just go anywhere because it is a state secret in some ways. | ||
| Because if a foreign hostile leader or whatever were to take their waste, they could have it analyzed and find out a lot about potential health conditions. | ||
| Right. | ||
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That could be used to blackmail them or it could be used in some way that could be exploited for, I don't know what other ways other than blackmail. | |
| I got your shit! | ||
| Cloning! | ||
| Cloning, my friend! | ||
| What if the Chinese get a hold of Obama's poop using... | ||
| To clone a new Obama, accelerate his growth, as we all know the Chinese can do, which they've been able to do that since the 300 BC. | ||
| According to Alex, they do it in cows. | ||
| That was actually how Qin Shi Huang took over China in the very beginning. | ||
| It's also how they built the Great Wall. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
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Cloned. | |
| Cloned Obamas. | ||
| There is a sensible reason to this that doesn't have to do with, like, it's about being worshipped. | ||
| You all need to walk around and wipe my ass. | ||
| Or anything like that. | ||
| It's just, you know, there's a logistical thing. | ||
| You could tell a lot about a person if you just stole their shit. | ||
| Yeah, no, that's true. | ||
| I never considered that because I think what I would think is, come on, guys. | ||
| No, totally. | ||
| Come on, guys. | ||
| And I'm talking about even to the people who would steal it. | ||
| It's just like, hey, come on. | ||
| To the ne 'er-do-wells. | ||
| A little decency. | ||
| A little decency here. | ||
| Have you no decency? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Come on. | ||
| We're not stealing your poop. | ||
| So Aaron Dykes comes in and he brings in this George W. Bush head one and Alex is like, yeah, he reinstituted the groom of the stool. | ||
| Misunderstanding. | ||
| Alex is lying about it. | ||
| Aaron Dykes is pretty close to right. | ||
| But they're sort of having a different conversation at the same time, and neither of them cares to point out, like, no, that's not what we're talking about. | ||
| Just let it go. | ||
| I imagine that's really important to any conversation any of Alex's underlings have with him, is to always have a different conversation and let whatever his conversation... | ||
| Let it go! | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Yeah, they might as well be in Frozen. | ||
| Just saying, let it go. | ||
| I've never seen that. | ||
| So at this point, after that, Alex isn't satisfied with Aaron Dyke's backup, so he does this. | ||
| Let's call Jacobson in here. | ||
| Let's have a discussion. | ||
| Rob Jacobson, please come in here. | ||
| Come in here. | ||
| Just fun to remember. | ||
| We're just going to bring in more and more people to confirm that somebody wipes the Queen's ass. | ||
| Also, it's fun to remember that currently Rob Jacobson has an EEOC complaint against Alex alleging that he was grooming him for homosexual sex and that almost everybody at Infowars called him the Jew and the like, that sort of thing. | ||
| So, hey Rob. | ||
| Sorry, buddy. | ||
| We're discussing the groom of the stool. | ||
| Tell the listeners, you guys didn't believe me a few months ago, I told you about it. | ||
| Explain to people this is real. | ||
| This is real. | ||
| Good work, Rob. | ||
| We'll see you later. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| We read at least ten documents in about ten minutes. | ||
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That's too fast. | |
| One after the other, long reports. | ||
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Groom of the stool. | |
| They do it. | ||
| That is too fast. | ||
| That's too fast. | ||
| You didn't read any of those reports, then? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So, suffice it to say, this is the... | ||
| The picture that I want to present to you of what's important about Alex's groom of the stool stuff. | ||
| He is so defensive about the idea that people don't believe him and think he's making it up to be gross or funny that he has to bring in multiple employees to be like, yeah, man, wild. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| It's a waste of time. | ||
| See, now he reminds me of Coach with his series of Google Hangouts folk being like, hey, now I'm going to make Mark mad, but the groove of the stool is real. | ||
| Honestly, Coach has a more efficient system down. | ||
| Alex had to call Rob into the studio. | ||
| It's just a waste of time, man. | ||
| You see this show and it's like, there's way better way. | ||
| No, I love this. | ||
| Talk about something. | ||
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Uh-uh. | |
| I would like this to happen forever. | ||
| Yeah, you're probably right, actually, because... | ||
| That should just continue, because when he starts talking about something else, it ends up being kind of racist. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| You know, you don't see wolves trying to eat grizzly bears. | ||
| Wolves go after deer. | ||
| They go after mice. | ||
| Actually, their main diet is rodents. | ||
| They go after little things they can grab. | ||
| They don't go after porcupines. | ||
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They don't go after poisonous toads. | |
| They don't go after grizzly bears. | ||
| They don't go after polar bears. | ||
| They go after rabbits. | ||
| Name other animals. | ||
| And sheep. | ||
| And we are sheep. | ||
| The illegal aliens are not to be messed with. | ||
| They're here to bankrupt the economy, bankrupt the states, drive down the wages. | ||
| That's part of merging us in the third world. | ||
| Only citizens are to be throttled, squeezed, dominated, bludgeoned, controlled, pushed to the edge of extinction, driven into homelessness, put in camps, their children taken, their cars seized. | ||
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We are here to be raped by the criminal government. | |
| So, there's a couple words that he uses in there that make me think that this might be a race thing. | ||
| No, come on. | ||
| Driven to the point of extinction. | ||
| No, come on, Dan. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Come on! | ||
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What I'm talking about is what I feel, but I hear that. | |
| No, let's just go with more. | ||
| Do wolves go after kangaroos? | ||
| Let's do this. | ||
| Rob Jacobson, I'm going to need you to confirm. | ||
| Get on in here. | ||
| The kangaroo is nice with the right, nice with the left. | ||
| Okay, I got you. | ||
| They can just give them the good sweet science. | ||
| Wolves just stay out of Australia entirely. | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| The dingoes are the wolf of Australia, from what I understand. | ||
| From jokes. | ||
| Yes, many of the facts that I know about Australia are actually jokes. | ||
| So what Alex is presenting there is basically this conception where the citizens, which we know he means white people. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| The government is just feeding off of them, whereas they're bringing in... | ||
| Right, the government's the wolves. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They're bringing in the illegal immigrants. | ||
| I don't think they're an animal in this metaphor, because then they would have to be the bear or something like that. | ||
| I thought they were supposed to be the snake or the porcupine or something like that. | ||
| I don't think they fit in. | ||
| I think it's just about the... | ||
| So it's just an animal metaphor, and then let's just throw in some racism. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| But I think if you confronted him with that, and you said, hey, Alex, that sounds mighty racist. | ||
| He would say, I'm just talking about illegal immigrants. | ||
| I'm not... | ||
| Specifically saying, what I mean by that, it could be immigrants from anywhere. | ||
| Any sort of immigrant. | ||
| It has nothing to do with that. | ||
| It could be a millennia Trump. | ||
| Unfortunately, a couple minutes later, he takes a call and things get a little too overt about what they mean by immigrants. | ||
| Lauren in Ohio, you're on the air. | ||
| Hey, I'm already adding Ohio to the list of states. | ||
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I wanted to cheer you up a little because I can hear the stress in your voices and that you're making me crack up with the clean stuff, and I'm wondering when people are bowing down and scraping before men. | |
| Now, I'm going to just real quickly do this. | ||
| mexicans are above the law it's not the next year it's that they're not under the rules codes regulations and statutes by virtue of their voluntary contract I agree. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| Because they literally are free and won't get the license and won't get the insurance. | ||
| All of that makes perfect sense. | ||
| And just thumb their nose. | ||
| The system's just given up because it's powerless unless you acquiesce. | ||
| And you're right. | ||
| You've got it. | ||
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And here's the thing. | |
| This is the key. | ||
| And this is why they needed to get the Bible out of the schools and away from the children. | ||
| God made us human beings. | ||
| Humanist man. | ||
| You know, he created us out of the dirt. | ||
| Human. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I get it. | ||
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You are a king of your own land. | |
| When we came here and this country was developed, my ancestors, one of them was Raymond Demery. | ||
| He was aide-de-camp for Washington. | ||
| Slow down. | ||
| Slow down. | ||
| Talking too fast. | ||
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Makes me think you might be thin and on methamphetamines. | |
| No, I was like, Jesus, lady, take a breath. | ||
| So I don't care about her family history being close to Washington or anything like that. | ||
| She's just espousing sovereign citizen, free man on the land kind of ideology, which we know Alex is super into, but never wants to use those words or anything like that because he knows the stink that's on them. | ||
| And he knows that he would look like an idiot if he overtly came outside it, but when a caller who gives that approach sounds like, I agree, I love it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They can only do it if you consent to it. | ||
| And also, tell me more about your ancestor who is an aide-de-camp to Washington. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Which is a weird, humble brag, I guess. | ||
| She goes on a while. | ||
| Of course she does. | ||
| So now we've recontextualized this as the idea is like, okay, so first of all, when he's saying immigrants, he means Mexicans. | ||
| Or at least, we have very firm evidence. | ||
| When she says Mexicans, he's like... | ||
| Exactly what I was talking about! | ||
| Thank you for cutting through this whole illegal immigrant nonsense that I had to say. | ||
| Which is a problem for him, trying to take some sort of a distant position or play like he wasn't saying that. | ||
| The second thing that that clearly demonstrates is when Alex uses words like illegal aliens and stuff like that, his audience knows exactly what he means. | ||
| This caller is fully demonstrating that she heard Mexican when he said that because that's what he meant. | ||
| And... | ||
| Responding the way you describe shows that that is what he meant. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| And he's intentionally meaning it that way. | ||
| So all these citizens are stuck. | ||
| They're not free because they have IDs. | ||
| They have birth certificates. | ||
| Mark of the beast. | ||
| They have social security numbers. | ||
| Capital letters everywhere. | ||
| They have gold tassels around the flag at the courtroom. | ||
| Yay! | ||
| This is the beginning of a trend on these episodes that I haven't seen before that makes me sick. | ||
| And it's quite frankly a bunch of people expressing a bit of bitterness but also jealousy of illegal immigrants. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, they're trying to create the perception that they're the free ones and we, the noble white sovereign citizens, are the ones who are oppressed. | ||
| And it's hard. | ||
| What's more off the grid than immigrating illegally to another country? | ||
| Hey, sovereign citizens! | ||
| You can do that! | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Go elsewhere! | ||
| There's two that touch our country. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Look! | ||
| So we'll get back to that. | ||
| That is a theme that runs through a little bit of this. | ||
| But Alex gets distracted before he gets back to this. | ||
| It says something... | ||
| I mean, what do you want to say? | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| It's just bad. | ||
| And then I've got a free speech issue article here. | ||
| This is out of Fox News. | ||
| Well, they posted an Associated Press article on Fox News. | ||
| Special Olympics launches campaign to ban the word retard. | ||
| All that means is retarded. | ||
| They have retardation. | ||
| That's like the word Negro now has been turned a racial slang. | ||
| Anglo Negro. | ||
| So, real quick, before we get back into this, that right there is a dumb thought. | ||
| Because what he's trying to say is that negro means black in Spanish. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what he's trying to say. | ||
| Or negro means black in Spanish. | ||
| And what he accidentally says is not negro blanco. | ||
| He says negro anglo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, uh-oh, Alex. | ||
| What that implies... | ||
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Is that you are using it specifically... | |
| Hey, hey, hold on. | ||
| I wouldn't go that far. | ||
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Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
| It's just a word that means things. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| In Europe, you get arrested. | ||
| You can Google this. | ||
| This is BBC headlines. | ||
| They arrested Robin Page. | ||
| We had him on. | ||
| The BBC presenter, one man and his dog, where he goes to different towns hiking each week and interviews people. | ||
| And he gave a speech to a rural affairs group and said, rural communities deserve the same rights as Muslims and homosexuals. | ||
| And they said, we believe that word was meant to hurt feelings. | ||
| The scientific term scares people, heterosexual, homosexual, so we're going to ban that word, and he was arrested. | ||
| That was in the news. | ||
| The BBC agreed with it and said we may have to fire him. | ||
| This is very evil to say the word homosexual. | ||
| Well, because some ignorant people use the term retard to be mean, now they want to ban that. | ||
| But this is only to set the press. | ||
| You can't deny... | ||
| That six million Jews were killed at Auschwitz alone. | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| Certainly Hitler was bad. | ||
| A lot of other people. | ||
| It was in the millions. | ||
| There's no doubting that. | ||
| But see, the Soviets exaggerated and said six million at Auschwitz. | ||
| And then it came out that, well, no, not Auschwitz, six million total. | ||
| And so that original piece of information is what caused the larger debate. | ||
| Presented without comment. | ||
| Alex, you didn't need to say any of that. | ||
| You don't need to do that. | ||
| I didn't. | ||
| Why? | ||
| You could have just not said it. | ||
| You definitely could have. | ||
| You could have just not said it. | ||
| It was an option. | ||
| You could have been like, hey, I know people are trying to, you know, classify the word retarded as an offensive word, but I think it is an applicable word because it's a thing. | ||
| You can make that argument. | ||
| If you want. | ||
| And that's all you're really doing is making a bullshit argument. | ||
| Like, everybody's fine, just you're an asshole. | ||
| Don't be an asshole. | ||
| Everybody's fine if you say Jew. | ||
| Nobody's fine if you say Jew. | ||
| Like, you get it. | ||
| We get it, man. | ||
| There's no need to then be like... | ||
| So let me tell you why this is the Holocaust adjacent. | ||
| Let me tell you why people who are making Holocaust revisionist and denialist statements are kind of have a curdle of something going on. | ||
| It's the Soviets! | ||
| Alright, I'm just trying to be racist and offensive and I really want you to know that the Holocaust, it wasn't that bad! | ||
| I feel like I've explained... | ||
| Not too long ago. | ||
| The nature of a lot of the Holocaust denial is being done in service of amplifying the crimes of the Soviet Union. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| There is like the anti-communist propagandists. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| They have a very, a trend towards that. | ||
| And I'm not saying that's what Alex is doing, but boy is that close. | ||
| It's close enough for jazz, as they say. | ||
| You guys keep saying that six million died at Auschwitz. | ||
| We know it was in the millions, but not just at Auschwitz. | ||
| You know why they said that? | ||
| Because the Soviets killed ten billion people, and we don't talk about that. | ||
| We just get mad a little. | ||
| Oh, nice Hitler who's just going along his business trying to kill a medium amount of Jews. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not like the Stalinists. | ||
| So I don't want to talk about the Special Olympics piece of this. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Alex is stupid about that. | ||
| But I was like, oh, that's interesting, this idea about this guy Robin Page getting arrested for saying homosexual. | ||
| Yeah, I guarantee that... | ||
| That is true, and Alex will be borne out to be correct. | ||
| Dan, go ahead and make sure everybody knows that Alex is 100% correct this time. | ||
| So you gave, this Robin Page guy is a sort of a country, traditionalist, activist, farming, farmer kind of activist guy and TV personality on the BBC. | ||
| 64 years of age back when this happened in 2002. | ||
| He gave a speech at a gathering at Frampton-upon-Severn in Gloucestershire. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Frampton-upon-Severn comes alive is one of my favorite albums in the 70s. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| It's right up there with Budokan. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| What's the name of what an Ace of Bases album? | ||
| The Sign, probably. | ||
| So this guy. | ||
| The trouble that he got in was because he gave the speech and he started the speech with this quote. | ||
| Quote, if you are a black vegetarian Muslim asylum seeking one-legged lesbian lorry driver, I want the same rights as you. | ||
| Ooh, yes, no, let's give him the same rights as them. | ||
| Please, let's do that. | ||
| Let's 100% do that. | ||
| You can have them. | ||
| Let's give them your rights! | ||
| So the idea that people complained about was this idea of him trying to incite hatred towards these other groups. | ||
| England does have laws about that sort of thing. | ||
| They don't have the same First Amendment that we do. | ||
| Alex feels to realize that all over the place. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| The First Amendment is global. | ||
| From this article in The Telegraph, quote, No one present expressed any concerns at the time, but a letter of complaint was received later by the police, and another person wrote to say he disagreed with the remarks made. | ||
| Robin Page was arrested the next month, and a further five months later was contacted at his farm in Cambridgeshire and asked by two officers from Glosseshire. | ||
| To attend an interview at the police station. | ||
| He ended up staying overnight in prison because they said that it was trying to incite racial hatred. | ||
| I think that might be a little ambitious, a little capricious of the police and what have you. | ||
| And in the end, he was exonerated and he got $2,000 for his troubles. | ||
| He won 2,000 pounds. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That was when he wrote his famous letters from Frampton upon Hamptonshire County Jail. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, that one was huge. | ||
| So he did end up getting fired from his post later, and it wasn't about this. | ||
| It was, you know, I'll just read to you here from this Cambridgeshire Live news article. | ||
| Quote, he found himself in hot water of a, quote, joke about giving contraceptives to immigrants in raisins, while a local liberal dem also successfully complained to the Charities Commission about a press release put out by him through his organization. | ||
| So, there had been other racism-based complaints. | ||
| It wasn't just this. | ||
| The idea that he got fired for saying homosexual because that's somehow a bad word is nonsensical and I poo-poo it. | ||
| This guy has a pretty clear track record of minimizing the experiences of non-white traditional farmers. | ||
| And then also advocating for forced drugging. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| Which is actually something Alex complains about people doing all the time. | ||
| You'd think you'd be interested in that. | ||
| Nah, don't worry about it. | ||
| I'm happy that that is the... | ||
| I mean, look, in our world... | ||
| That was very tame racist bullshit. | ||
| Old British people are very polite. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I get it. | ||
| That's 100%. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| But I mean, in our world, it's kind of like, oh, that's cute. | ||
| Look at how bad you are at being racist, I guess. | ||
| Yeah, as I was reading it, I do recognize that there was a feeling of like, this isn't going to land. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He just said that he wants to give immigrants contraceptives and raisins. | ||
| That's bushly. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's horrible, but come on. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because I was totally assuming sexual assault. | ||
| Like, it's an old white dude at the BBC. | ||
| Not a lot of people around there. | ||
| Well... | ||
| So, at this point, Alex has another guest on the show. | ||
| He's done a lot of crowing about the Queen and her poops. | ||
| He has done a little bit of business about how he is jealous of immigrants because they're free. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Did he do a number one or number two on who's wiping? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| But he has also dabbled in Holocaust revisionism apology. | ||
| In a conversation defending the R-word, I guess. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| And now, just to get bingo on this scorecard for April 1st, he's got to have an interview with someone who thinks you don't have to pay taxes. | ||
| And Tommy Cryer is an attorney-in-law who successfully defeated the IRS in his own case. | ||
| Mr. Cryer, it's great to have you here with us. | ||
| Thanks, Ali, for having me on. | ||
| I'm always glad to be here. | ||
| So do you think that Tommy Cryer beat the IRS in his case? | ||
| I am going to assume that this is very similar to the last guy who, quote, Beat the IRS in his case. | ||
| Which guy was... | ||
| Wasn't that a Project Camelot episode? | ||
| All these fucking guys. | ||
| I got a huge... | ||
| The government had to pay me $300,000. | ||
| A lot of them do say that. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| No, that was Coach, I think, saying that the ACLU had to pay him. | ||
| Oh, that might be right. | ||
| All these people have bullshit. | ||
| They always win their cases. | ||
| He did actually technically win his case. | ||
| The criminal case. | ||
| And that was because... | ||
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How did the civil win? | |
| Well, with the jury. | ||
| See, the jury. | ||
| The issue was, in order for him to be convicted of this crime, they had to be convinced that he believed he had to pay taxes and was willingly not doing that. | ||
| So because he was able to prove in court or convince this jury that he actually didn't believe he had to pay taxes, they let him go on a technicality because there was no malice. | ||
| The classic too dumb to commit the crime law. | ||
| It doesn't reach the criminal statute. | ||
| So now this is interesting, Jordan. | ||
| How did he do with the civil case? | ||
| Well, you should know this. | ||
| This episode is on April 1st, 2009. | ||
| Tommy Cryer got back up in the IRS's grill. | ||
| He filed a court, something in the U.S. tax court. | ||
| He was trying to say that he didn't owe... | ||
| $1.7 million in taxes and penalties from the years 1993 through 2001 that the IRS said, hey buddy, you owe that money. | ||
| The day after this interview, he does that. | ||
| He starts doing that. | ||
| He has his interview with Alex. | ||
| He's feeling on top of the world. | ||
| That guy believes me. | ||
| I'm going to go ahead and fuck with the IRS. | ||
| What a fucking idiot. | ||
| So the IRS asserted that... | ||
| Now I do believe that he is too stupid to be convicted of criminal malice. | ||
| He had a bunch of fines, fees, tons and tons of unpaid taxes over the years. | ||
| He filed this petition, and he said that there was a little bit of a discrepancy, and that was, quote, the amount of the claimed deficiency is disputed. | ||
| The correct amount is zero dollars. | ||
| So, of course, that ended up, you know, like, well, no, that's not true. | ||
| We're going to have to take this to court. | ||
| Yeah, of course they are. | ||
| There was a court date set. | ||
| And what Tommy Cryer did was try and get the date delayed. | ||
| So he kept pushing the court date back. | ||
| So he didn't have to pay the money. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So finally, he was supposed to go to court on February 15, 2012. | ||
| The court granted him another delay. | ||
| So he'd already delayed it all the way up to that point. | ||
| So he's gotten it three years at this point. | ||
| Yeah, delayed. | ||
| Well, actually, I think they were sort of going through from 2009 to probably, I think, early 2011. | ||
| He was sort of going through like a petty, I'll mail you a letter and tell you you're wrong kind of thing. | ||
| They didn't set a court date until a little bit later. | ||
| So it's maybe a year, year and a half that he's been getting these delays. | ||
| So in February 2012, he got a delay and they rescheduled the court date for October 22nd, 2012. | ||
| That never happened because Tommy Cryer died on the 4th of June, 2012. | ||
| So he did win! | ||
| He won! | ||
| He won! | ||
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He kept pushing the court date back until he died. | |
| Excuses! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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I'm not sure about that. | |
| I want a full list of every excuse he used in order to move the court case back a day. | ||
| I don't know all that stuff. | ||
| I want every excuse. | ||
| I don't know all that stuff, but I do know that it's pretty amazing that this guy only got off on going to prison because the jury's like, yeah, he believes it. | ||
| He's wrong, but he definitely knows that he can't take him to prison for that, I guess. | ||
| And then he was able to push it back over and over and over and over again. | ||
| For some reason, I feel like I remember something about laws and ignorance not being a defense. | ||
| I don't know where the line is, but yeah, that does seem weird. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That might just be an aphorism, though. | ||
| Ignorance of the law is no defense against it or whatever. | ||
| Possession is nine-tenths of the law. | ||
| That doesn't mean anything. | ||
| This is my advice to everyone. | ||
| Always go for a jury trial. | ||
| Unless it is all white and you are black. | ||
| In which case... | ||
| Do not do that. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| They're crazy. | ||
| Speaking of that sort of business, on our last 2009 episode, we talked about how Rob Du and that other guy were down in Sacramento trying to get footage for Alex's new documentary. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Trying to cover this white camp, this tent city. | ||
| Look, they're even doing it to us! | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| So now Rob Du is back in studio. | ||
| He's made it back to camp, and Alex is debriefing him. | ||
| Rob, Rob, come in here. | ||
| I know you're back. | ||
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Tell me about the poop thing again. | |
| Confirm that the poop thing is real. | ||
| So, now, the weird thing about this is that Alex keeps saying that he's filming this for his new documentary. | ||
| This interview with Rob Dew and the other guy in studio. | ||
| And so, he'll, multiple times, he was just like, say that again. | ||
| Say that again. | ||
| Do that again, but say it better. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| You know you're still doing a radio show here. | ||
| I know you want this documentary to shine, but do this off-air, man. | ||
| We're going to need another take, and I'm going to need you to say it in this camera this time. | ||
| I want you to say it directly in there. | ||
| Don't move your eyes. | ||
| We're going to give you a leading question, but this time start with an I sentence, please. | ||
| He's more or less doing that, and it's bizarre. | ||
| And here is Rob Dew saying something that... | ||
| Really reinforces my argument that this story appeals to Infowars on a racial basis. | ||
| They start this by talking about that Winnebago that we've heard so much about. | ||
| And so that was an illegal alien. | ||
| They wouldn't impound with no insurance that... | ||
| Winnebago. | ||
| So talk about that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I imagine that... | ||
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Lone star. | |
| Well, they had... | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| One thing we did notice is that there were no Hispanics in this. | ||
| I didn't see any Hispanics. | ||
| There was a couple non-whites, non-blacks. | ||
| You know me. | ||
| And maybe Pacific Islander. | ||
| Pacific Islander type. | ||
| But there was no illegal aliens around. | ||
| And we actually didn't see too many in that area at all. | ||
| Well, that's because illegal aliens come from a real third world country. | ||
| And Americans in a few years will know how to live. | ||
| They live in 1015 to a house. | ||
| They don't pay any taxes, none of the system. | ||
| And a lot of them don't get on welfare. | ||
| So that's why they're having brand new cars around. | ||
| And then they save enough money to buy houses. | ||
| Right. | ||
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So they know what they're doing. | |
| These illegal immigrants. | ||
| We've already established Alex believes means Mexicans. | ||
| They know what they're doing. | ||
| They know how to game the system. | ||
| Buy all these houses and ride around in these awesome cars. | ||
| Who do you want? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Who's, who's, like, is this, is this like the scene from Heat where it's like, I, I, you know what? | ||
| I get what you're doing living outside the law, but it's my job to enforce it. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I respect you, Bill. | ||
| I don't like the way you do it, but I respect your plans. | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| I think it's him trying to create a false reality in order to foster feelings of jealousy and anger towards minorities. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's doing welfare queen shit. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That is probably the best way to put that. | ||
| That is exactly what that is, and of course that's a piece of his... | ||
| Uh, narrative about this tent city. | ||
| That's lame as shit. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But not as lame as how he decides to end the show on, uh, April 1st. | ||
| Got some breaking news on some of the gross things Queen Elizabeth does in the first hour. | ||
| In the restreams at Infowars.com and a bunch of other informative guests. | ||
| The last minute... | ||
| We got Paul Joseph Lawson here. | ||
| Paul! | ||
| Gold is right up there. | ||
| Queen still gets her ass wet, right? | ||
| Rising, going back and forth. | ||
| They are devaluing the dollar. | ||
| They've announced they're going to kill it. | ||
| Global currency. | ||
| Folks, you are insane if you don't put some of your liquid assets, stocks, bonds, 401ks, gold, and silver and physically hold it. | ||
| The news is admitting you should do it now, but saying buy gold stocks. | ||
| Whatever, folks. | ||
| You want to physically hold it. | ||
| Ted's got an incredible deal today. | ||
| Ted, tell folks the deal you've got. | ||
| Oh, Ted. | ||
| Oh, Ted. | ||
| Tell the deal, Ted. | ||
| Ted. | ||
| Get that gold gone. | ||
| What's the deal? | ||
| So, that's how he ends the first. | ||
| And, you know, I feel like that show was... | ||
| Looking back on it, I felt like there was so much Alex trying to do comedy with the Queen. | ||
| And stuff like that. | ||
| Do you think that's what he was trying to do? | ||
| Yeah, I think he was. | ||
| Well, he was trying to do truth and comedy. | ||
| He was trying to be like a Del Close type. | ||
|
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Sure, sure. | |
| Trying to talk about something real, but he thinks it's so funny that the queen gets her ass wiped or something like that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He spent so long on that. | ||
| And then this tax protester guy is just a zero. | ||
| And then the racism throughout it. | ||
| I've not heard a ton of times when there's been fairly consistent feelings of jealousy towards immigrants and stuff like that. | ||
| Yeah, I haven't heard that before. | ||
| That's a weird new wrinkle. | ||
| I don't know where that's coming from. | ||
| But it comes from the same racist place that all of his other immigrant narratives have over the time that we've been listening to him. | ||
| But I just didn't know what to do with it, and so I was glad. | ||
| I didn't think there was a ton of meat, is what I'm saying. | ||
| No. | ||
| There was just a lot of gristle and... | ||
| Maybe he's not Bill Hicks. | ||
| Maybe he's actually Mort Saul. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Mort Saul got really fat and gross. | ||
| Who's the guy who would just bring a newspaper up there and be like, what's in the papers? | ||
| All right, what's in the news today? | ||
| So thankfully, I feel like... | ||
| Jay Leno? | ||
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Could be. | |
| I didn't feel like there was meat there, but thankfully I feel like as we get to April 2nd, there's a little bit more meat. | ||
| And I found something in April 2nd that I think is super exciting. | ||
| But before we get to that, we have to see the trend continue from April 1st into April 2nd of Alex Jones realizing that more and more Fox News personalities are sounding like him, and it fucking pisses him off. | ||
| And everyone's so thankful now of CNN and Fox. | ||
| They're admitting it's a world government run by bankers. | ||
| And Fox is even criticizing it. | ||
| Oh, we've been endorsed by Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity and all these other people. | ||
| They're coming out admitting it's true. | ||
| Oh, we can talk about it now. | ||
| They say it's okay. | ||
| They weren't stupid. | ||
| They knew world government was being set up in the last 20 years. | ||
| They knew it was all being developed. | ||
| They're having to now try to keep some of their credibility. | ||
| By admitting it, I want apologies from all of these people, but you're not going to get that. | ||
| Certainly not. | ||
| Certainly not going to get an apology out of any of those assholes. | ||
| I would like that day. | ||
| That'd be a good day. | ||
| I would like to turn on the TV and see fucking Brett fucking... | ||
| Yeah, just like... | ||
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We just need to apologize once to... | |
| Alex Jones? | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| Hey, look, we've known about this globalist shit forever. | ||
| We've been fucking around. | ||
| I am sorry. | ||
| We just wanted you to get there on your own. | ||
| We didn't want you to feel like the establishment had your back. | ||
| We knew that your voice could not be created if you felt like anyone supported you. | ||
| So we rejected you in order to make you stronger. | ||
| Like parents purposely being like, now you don't become a musician! | ||
| Yeah, that sort of thing. | ||
| I would love that sort of an apology. | ||
| So it is interesting. | ||
| We have even more of these personalities that Alex is starting to take target at for like, now they're starting to sound like me. | ||
| It's bullshit. | ||
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All right. | |
| They make more money. | ||
| Yeah, that's supportive. | ||
| Yeah, that's 100% what it is. | ||
| They have suits. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're bought by bankers. | ||
| I bought by Ted Anderson. | ||
| I want a banker. | ||
| Give me a banker. | ||
| This guy's a con artist. | ||
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I have a guy who has a pretend vault of gold. | |
| I accidentally got too involved with him in the late 90s when I had nothing. | ||
| Now I feel like I owe him. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex just talks about how he's got a sense of what's to come. | ||
| And I'm going to tell you right now, it hit me like a ton of bricks last night. | ||
| They are going to stage terror attacks in this country. | ||
| They are going to do it, and I'll tell you why when we get back. | ||
| Is somebody calling you? | ||
| So you get ready, folks. | ||
| Is somebody fucking calling me right now? | ||
| Hard martial law. | ||
| Hard martial law. | ||
|
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They're going to try to arrest me and a lot of other people. | |
| It's a guarantee they're going to move. | ||
| With physical force against the American people unless we bust our butts to expose the terrorist program now. | ||
| Didn't happen. | ||
| Must have busted your butts then. | ||
| They must have really busted their butts. | ||
| Yeah, for real. | ||
| Also, I always love it when I hear Alex say, It hit me like a ton of bricks last night. | ||
| This thing I say all the time. | ||
| I fucking love it. | ||
| Last night I got, I got, it was a tsunami of information. | ||
| There's going to be a somber of rage. | ||
| That would literally be like me getting on this show and be like, Jordan, look, I need to tell you, last night I had a breakthrough. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Alex Jones is not cool. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| The only way we're going to be able to stop him is if we bust our butts. | ||
| I'm trying. | ||
| And get the word out, Dan. | ||
| Alex is not on the level, man. | ||
| I didn't realize it. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| I didn't realize it. | ||
| This guy's got ill will. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I woke up the other day, and I was just blown away. | ||
| I don't think this shady gold salesman is on the up and up. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You're three years late to figuring that out. | ||
| State of Minnesota figured that shit out real early. | ||
| And they are the state of Minnesota. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| You know how long it took them. | ||
| So, I told you I found something real juicy, real good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's in this next clip. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| It's not what you think in this next clip. | ||
| Because you're going to hear the content of the clip, and you're going to be like, oh, this is what Dan is going to talk about. | ||
| It's not. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| You have no fucking idea how I'm going to flex on this shit. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I have talked to multiple Hollywood people, and I also know people who worked at PETA for short periods of time and then found out how crazy it was. | ||
| And I remember 10 years ago on air laying this out from inside sources, and people couldn't believe me, but then it's come out in the last three years on mainstream news. | ||
| PETA, at its locations everywhere, orders its employees... | ||
| And volunteers to go adopt animals and then even do it with fake names to get more. | ||
| And then with pleasure, it's like a ritual, they euthanize them. | ||
| People thought I was crazy when I talked about that. | ||
| Now it's mainstream news everywhere. | ||
| It is a eugenics death cult. | ||
| They believe in human extinctionism. | ||
| They're really the public front of the animal liberation front. | ||
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And... | |
| Yeah, where are you going from there? | ||
| The Center for Consumer Research has now done a big report on it. | ||
| 95% of the animals... | ||
| This is up on Infowars.com. | ||
| They adopt. | ||
| They secretly kill. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| Oh, my. | ||
| Ooh, God. | ||
| I was listening to that so intently trying to figure out what it was. | ||
| Yeah, because it can't just be the PETA thing. | ||
| It can't be, can it? | ||
| It's got to be... | ||
| Oh, oh, oh, oh. | ||
| You found somebody in Hollywood who was a member of PETA. | ||
| No. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| I need something. | ||
| I need something. | ||
| I don't know what to go on. | ||
| Twist. | ||
| Alex is totally right. | ||
| They do sacrifice it? | ||
| No, it's not that. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Holy shit, because I almost believed you for a second. | ||
| No, at the end there, he's citing something from the Center for Consumer Research. | ||
| It's interesting that he makes this claim about this report about Peter loving to kill animals and how it comes from the Center for Consumer Research. | ||
| Because it doesn't. | ||
| It comes from the Center for Consumer Freedom. | ||
| One might think that it's a simple instance of Alex McSpeaking, but I don't think it is, for a number of reasons. | ||
| The first is that the Center for Consumer Research is a real thing, and it's a legitimate outlet. | ||
| It's run out of UC Davis. | ||
| They run research into consumer attitudes towards food safety, and they follow academic guidelines with their work. | ||
| It's a real professional outlet. | ||
| So associating this story about PETA with that organization lends it credibility. | ||
| On the other hand... | ||
| The Center for Consumer Freedom, which is where this story about PETA comes from, is a considerably less reputable source. | ||
| I can't imagine why. | ||
| The Center for Consumer Freedom is not a research outlet. | ||
| It's a front group for a lobbyist named Rick Berman. | ||
| Berman is known in many circles as the, quote, astroturf king man because the way he does business is to create tons and tons of front groups to create the false image of support for various things he's lobbying for, make it look like they're coming from the grassroots as opposed to the actual giant corporate clients who pay his bills. | ||
| So he's literally creating paid protesters! | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
| He even told his corporate clients, quote, we run all of this stuff through non-profit organizations that are insulated from having to disclose donors. | ||
| There's total anonymity. | ||
| People who don't know who supports us. | ||
| We've been doing this for 20-something years in this regard. | ||
| And to the degree that anyone is concerned about that, I will tell you there are all sorts of ways, all sorts of firewalls that have been established to get this done on an anonymous basis. | ||
| I'm religious about not allowing company names to ever get used. | ||
| At least I'm not going to allow them to get used. | ||
| And I don't want companies to ever admit that because it does give the other side a way to diminish our... | ||
| Is he literally a James Bond villain telling us his evil plan? | ||
| Is he monologuing? | ||
| Well, he thought he was doing this in a speech where no one would ever get the word out about the things he said. | ||
| Right, so literally like when you have James Bond on your fucking... | ||
| Bed, tied up, going like, well, there's no problem in telling you my evil plan now. | ||
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No one will ever know. | |
| But at the same time, revealing that evil plan to these large business donors does make them feel like, okay, well, we're cool. | ||
| We're never going to get tied to this. | ||
| That's one of the things you have to assure them if you want to get them to give you that dirty-ass money. | ||
| Hey, you guys want to do some evil shit? | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| No one's going to know about it if you give me your money to me. | ||
| No one's snitching. | ||
| So, Berman's original group was called the Guest Choice Network, which he specifically started to create the appearance that he was representing restaurant groups opposing the proposed smoking bans of the late 90s, when in reality, he was working for Philip Morris Tobacco. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| He actually had also opened the Center for Consumer Free Search, which is a very different... | ||
| One as well. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Communications between Berman and Philip Morris' senior program manager for public affairs, Barbara Track, clearly lay out his strategy. | ||
| Quote, if externally perceived as driven by restaurant interests, there will be more flexibility and creativity allowed than if it's, quote, owned by Philip Morris. | ||
| Nine months after their founding, Philip Morris' attorney, Marty Barrington, wrote in an internal memo that, quote, as of this writing, Philip Morris USA is still the only contributor, though Berman continues to promise others any day now. | ||
| They were the sole people behind this. | ||
| Philip Morris Tobacco. | ||
| Philip Morris gave Berman over $600,000 that year to create the appearance of a grassroots opposition to the smoking ban. | ||
| He does this with a ton of industries. | ||
| He organized the Employment Policies Institute to attack unions and initiatives to raise the minimum wage, but it's funded by money from the restaurant and hotel industry. | ||
| That is a... | ||
| Great fucking scam. | ||
| You gotta give it to him. | ||
| That's a great fucking scam. | ||
| Millions and millions of dollars. | ||
| Also, that doesn't seem like a hard gig to do. | ||
|
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Uh... | |
| I mean, you've got to create so many shell companies, and you have to have insane organizational skills. | ||
| No, I know, but what is it but a harder version of creating your own university degree? | ||
| No, that's just write down something. | ||
| Right, but it's the same fucking thing! | ||
| You just do it with a lawyer. | ||
| No, no, no, no, because if you do it, in this case, if you do it wrong, you're going to prison for life. | ||
| Right, well, it's just a harder version. | ||
| But you don't need someone else to help you just make a fake diploma. | ||
| You could do that on your own. | ||
| In this case, you need... | ||
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People mail stuff to where where All right. | |
| In 2002, the Guest Choice Network renamed itself the Center for Consumer Freedom, and a lot of its focus became attacking food safety organizations and animal rights groups. | ||
| It should surprise no one that the list of his donors include hundreds of thousands of dollars from Monsanto, Cargill, and Tyson Foods. | ||
| It should also surprise no one that they received over $100,000 from the Coke-linked foundations, the Donors Trust, and the Donors Capital Fund, as well as over $600,000 from... | ||
| Bradley Foundation. | ||
| The Bradley Foundation was founded by Harry Bradley, who interestingly was a founding Jesus Christ! | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| These are very startling connections, but leaving those aside, the reason for the Center for Consumer Freedom to attack PETA is very clear. | ||
| PETA had been creating public outcry about factory farming for years at this point, and in particular was a huge target of Tyson Foods, whose cruelty had been exposed by PETA multiple times. | ||
| This is a perfect articulation of his strategy, as he expressed in a 2007 interview with 60 Minutes, where he said that it is his approach to shoot the messenger. | ||
| Instead of addressing the disgusting animal cruelty, change the conversation into attacking PETA. | ||
| Mwahaha. | ||
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Every single fucking sentence he says should end with mwahaha. | |
| The reality of this story about PETA killing animals is a sad one, but it's not one that paints PETA as a particularly evil organization. | ||
| Which isn't to say that there aren't very valid criticisms one could make of PETA, in other places especially. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The reason that the number that the Center for Consumer Freedom is able to cite for this number of animals that PETA killed, the reason that it's so high that year is that they were called in by a distressed policeman in North Carolina. | ||
| He'd noticed that a ton of animals were being killed at shelters there, but in very inhumane ways. | ||
| For instance, being gas-powered. | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| a sick animal's life would be if it was left to fend for itself. | ||
| So while I'm not-Or left in one of those places and fucking shot in the head. | ||
| Totally. | ||
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At best. | |
| I'm not thrilled with animals being put down or anything like that, but I'm also not so closed-minded or short-sighted to think that it's intrinsically wrong when you have a situation Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is the reality of what PETA is being smeared for in that article put out by the Center for Consumer Freedom. | ||
| And it's clear why. | ||
| Rick Berman is a paid bully who defends his corporate clients who don't want to have to pay more to do their dirty business. | ||
| PETA makes it difficult for his big food clients to keep abusing animals to keep overhead low. | ||
| So he's being paid big bucks to target them with propaganda. | ||
| There's no nuance here. | ||
| Alex Jones is literally passing off pro-corporate interest propaganda as research on his show. | ||
| The fact that he says that this is from the Center for Consumer Research leads me to suspect that he was trying to muddy the waters and make it more difficult for his listeners to realize that what he was doing was repurposing corporate propaganda on his show. | ||
| You know, there is a world that exists where he just misspoke. | ||
| Coincidentally, it wasn't trying to cover up the idea that this is information that's coming out of a fairly easy to get to the bottom of corporate shill. | ||
| Or it could just be subconscious in that he's like, yeah, that's clearly not a real thing. | ||
| So, I'll just say the real thing, because why would I say a fake thing? | ||
| But that's the same thing. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's the same motivation. | ||
| It's muddying the waters so his listeners are left in the dark. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Now, for the fun little part, it should be noted that Rick Berman specifically works for things that Alex is absolutely against. | ||
| In addition to having taken their money, Berman admitted in 2016 that he had worked as a consultant for Monsanto, specifically about how to make their GMOs more appealing to the public. | ||
| So he's like that one dude we talked about who's just a propaganda fucking soldier of fortune? | ||
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Maybe we should get PETA to do that shit. | |
| Maybe we should start a consulting group. | ||
| We'll come up with propaganda, and we'll just have all this shit for it. | ||
| So PETA hires us, but we don't have to disclose our donors. | ||
| And then we'll put all those animals down. | ||
| I feel like that's not the plan that I wanted. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| I don't think that's the one we want to do. | ||
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Never mind. | |
| I'm going to back away from that one. | ||
| My point is here, Alex is doing this thing where PETA is an organization that he's against, I guess. | ||
| I'm not sure why. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know why. | ||
| I guess because they're annoying and he likes meat. | ||
| They're vaguely liberal? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I guess that's the only thing I can sort of think of. | ||
| If you just look at them externally, you associate them with more left, I guess. | ||
| But I don't know exactly why he's super against PETA, but he's using this clear example of a front for corporate propaganda that's funded by the Koch brothers, Monsanto, Tyson Foods. | ||
| And the Bradley Foundation, who was founded by a guy who's friends with Fred Koch and was a founding member of the John Burt Society. | ||
| So you have all of this. | ||
| All of this together. | ||
| It's very... | ||
| Man. | ||
| It just keeps coming up, doesn't it? | ||
| Yeah, it sure does. | ||
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Weird! | |
| The John Birch Society keeps popping up where evil is done. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Yeah, it's very weird that those dudes... | ||
| I don't think they're good people. | ||
| No, they're not. | ||
| I think they're actually bad people. | ||
| Like destroying the world bad. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, like super villain plan level bad. | ||
| Seems that way. | ||
| They're almost a shadowy cabal of rich people getting together. | ||
| To sow discord and foment issues in order to muddy the waters, divide people, and destroy them. | ||
| And make impotent true social change. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe that's the conclusion this podcast will eventually come to. | ||
| There are globalists, and they're evil. | ||
| They're not globalists, though. | ||
| Corporatists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, who cares about that? | ||
| We're just talking about feelings, and there's no... | ||
| There's no larger picture to it, necessarily. | ||
| What we can say for sure is it looks like these are real bad people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, it's bad people that Alex is getting his information from, but they're not nearly as bad as everyone who works at PETA. | ||
| And let me tell you, they get off on it. | ||
| They pressure their employees to go adopt animals, and they take them in the back and just inject them and get a weird look on their face. | ||
| I mean, these are some sick freaks, folks. | ||
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I don't understand why you're laughing at that if you think it's so evil. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's a weird thing to do. | ||
| Also, how do you know about the looks on their face? | ||
| Well, I mean, he's been to parties before. | ||
| What are you, not cool? | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Dan, what are you not? | ||
| You've never been to a PETA murder party? | ||
| I haven't gotten an invite. | ||
| I've been waiting. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Everyone keeps telling me, yeah, you should come, man. | ||
| Like, then day after, they're all like, Dan, where were you? | ||
| Oh, you should have been there! | ||
| No one told me! | ||
| Oh, no, we totally meant to! | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So anyway, back on track. | ||
| Alex takes a call here, and what he does is... | ||
| You know, this caller takes us back to April 1st a little bit with some feelings about immigrants. | ||
| Go back to Tom. | ||
| Finish up, Tom. | ||
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Well, you know, I think you made a really good point about the illegal aliens earlier in the show about how they are truly free in the sense that... | |
| You know, they have solid family structures. | ||
| I think Tom is listening to the show on a day delay or something like that. | ||
| You must be listening to yesterday's episode. | ||
| But, sorry, hold on. | ||
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And they're rejecting these mechanisms of control that the American people, the citizens of the United States of America, openly accept and cow to and bow to. | |
| And that's why the police just leave them alone. | ||
| An example, again, in a Winnebago without driver's license or insurance, they let them go 98% of the time that's admitted. | ||
| But a citizen, they seize it and auction it and love it because they know the citizens have been trained to be domesticated animals. | ||
| Cite your sources. | ||
| 98%. | ||
| Even under Obama, actually especially under Obama, we increased the number of people he fucking deported. | ||
| That's a black mark on Obama's fucking presidency. | ||
| It's demonstrably not true what he's saying. | ||
| But you can't even give him a little bit. | ||
| You can't even give him one tiny little bit. | ||
| You can't give him credit for the thing that we judge. | ||
| Like people who are... | ||
| Sensibly closer to being on his side. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That are like, that's not good. | ||
| You can't even be like, well, I hate him for everything, but at least he got rid of a lot of immigrants. | ||
| Which seems like it should be, intellectually honest. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But no, he has to, because it's about creating the dichotomy, the implicit division between illegal immigrant and citizen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is not a distinction between someone who is a citizen and isn't. | ||
| It's clearly a racial division. | ||
| That is what he's talking about, though using other terminology. | ||
| It's very, very clear. | ||
| And it's so frustrating because, look, the reality is, with all the horrible shit Trump has done, and it's just a staggering amount, but if at the end of his presidency he finally passes 100% Medicare for all, we'd have to be like, fuck! | ||
| You gotta give him that. | ||
| Well, yeah, you give him that. | ||
| You give him that, but I don't think it undoes the scales. | ||
| No, no, no, it doesn't undo anything. | ||
| Obama's fucking drone strikes and his increased deportations don't undo the rest of his presidency, but fuck you! | ||
| You know, same thing. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| I would tip my hat to any things that are good in there. | ||
| You can't help it. | ||
| Yeah, so in this next clip, Alex has been talking about, you'll recall, That Glenn Beck had that Popular Mechanics guy on. | ||
| And he announced that this next Monday, he's going to have a full interview with the Popular Mechanics guy where they are going to debunk the internet rumors that are going around about FEMA camps. | ||
| So immediately, Alex's response was, I'm going to preemptively debunk his debunking because I know what he's going to say in that debunking. | ||
| He is psychic. | ||
| Yeah, I'm going to get ahead of the game. | ||
| He keeps saying he's going to do it. | ||
| And we're getting down to the wire now. | ||
| And in this next clip, he realizes he still hasn't done that yet. | ||
| And he needs to do it because he said he's going to do it preemptively and there's less power if he puts it out after the fact. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Because then he's not psychic and he has an on-air meeting about how he's got to get some work done. | ||
| I mean, I could do a show right now and show 20, 30 pieces and Washington Post and Houston Chronicle and admitting they have camps for civil unrest and Senate hearings admitting it. | ||
| You didn't need to talk about the Holocaust. | ||
| You can't do this. | ||
| I want to hit him with the whole picture. | ||
| And then also counter how they're going to debunk and show that I understand their minds so well and how they operate that I'm going to predict how the debunking works next Monday. | ||
| Have you ever had an off-air production meeting? | ||
| And here's the problem. | ||
| I leave here today to go to George Humphrey's house to interview him for the next Obama film. | ||
| I'll probably get home about 7. But I will do it. | ||
| I'll drink a bunch of coffee and I'll stay up until 2 or 3 in the morning and I am going to come in here. | ||
| In fact, guys, Hoosh, Paul Hartman and... | ||
| Mr. Neihardt, I need you both here an hour early tomorrow. | ||
| Can you do that? | ||
| Because I have to bring in a huge group of printouts, mainstream news articles and bills, and I need you to have them already pulled up with a web address as a list and then all the video clips. | ||
| So we have to have like an hour meeting before tomorrow. | ||
| I mean, think of Fox. | ||
| Why not just have it fucking now, you asshole? | ||
| Real quick, I want to point out that this implies that they never have a meeting before the show. | ||
| They've never had a meeting before the show. | ||
| The idea that he's making a real point of we have to have an hour meeting before the show means they do no prep. | ||
| We have to do a meeting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As unusual as it is. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That's right, I have lawyer meetings tomorrow, and I... | ||
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Since I was getting home early, I told my kids I'd take them fishing. | |
| That fishing has to wait. | ||
| I'm not going to... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| My wife is going to get mad. | ||
| They've been so excited all week. | ||
| No, I have to do it. | ||
| I have to do it. | ||
| See, I don't want to wait until Monday and then launch it hours before because if we get the jump on them and have it all over the web debunking them before, then I can really expose them. | ||
| I should have launched it earlier this week. | ||
| You're on air. | ||
| You're on air, Alex. | ||
| Alex, you're on air. | ||
| Alex, you're on air. | ||
| You don't get to go fishing. | ||
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Man. | |
| What is... | ||
| Well... | ||
| Fishing trip's gonna have to wait, kids. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| I have to lie better than usual? | ||
| There's nothing about that clip that isn't a hilarious bummer. | ||
| Like, it's just... | ||
| It's so sad. | ||
| Sorry, kids. | ||
| What is he, Mr. Bean? | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| I mean, I hope his kids don't listen to his show, but imagine if they do and that's how they find out they're not going fishing. | ||
| Sorry, kids. | ||
| I hate Glenn Beck. | ||
| Hey, kids. | ||
| How was your day from school? | ||
| Dad, we listened to the show. | ||
| Well, if it's any consolation. | ||
| I'm not going to do that work, actually. | ||
| I'm probably not going to do it. | ||
| I'm not going to take you fishing, and I'm not really going to do the work. | ||
| I'm really just trying to weasel out of going fishing. | ||
| I'm going to drink some whiskey. | ||
| I'm going to call it coffee. | ||
| It's going to be an Irish coffee. | ||
| Dad's going into his study. | ||
| We can't go fishing! | ||
| So that's good fun. | ||
| But a little bit later in the show, Alex gets a call from a guy. | ||
| Who had tried to call into Sean Hannity's show and plug the Obama deception. | ||
| So he gets on the show and he starts talking about the Obama deception. | ||
| And Sean Hannity ends up hanging up on him. | ||
| He's like, oh, I gotta go. | ||
| I gotta jump. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| Because he doesn't want to give free plugs and free press to somebody else. | ||
| So this guy calls into Alex's show to talk about how he got kicked off Sean Hannity's show for plugging Alex's stuff. | ||
| Alex has a very interesting take on it. | ||
| That he would never say today. | ||
| So he said a little something to you before he delayed you? | ||
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Right. | |
| He even mentioned before he started taking calls that there was a 30-second delay because of all the liberal left people, the left-wing wackos. | ||
| He had to have that 30-second delay to be able to maintain control. | ||
| So I knew I was going to get bleeped, and as soon as I heard myself come live on the radio, sure enough, he already... | ||
| Well, what you do is you do what Mark Dice does. | ||
| You record it, and then you put it on YouTube, and then all of his censorship can be exposed. | ||
| But, you know, it's really not even technically censorship because they own their show. | ||
| They can do what they want. | ||
| Really, censorship would be the government coming in and telling you what you could say on your own show or what Sean Hannity could say or do. | ||
| Oh, really, Alex? | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Are you defining censorship correctly? | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| I'm starting to think that he's only saying that. | ||
| I think he might know what censorship is. | ||
| Now, let's imagine that Sean Hannity, instead of hosting a radio show, started a website with a message board on it that became incredibly popular, and there were tons and tons of people on there. | ||
| It wasn't the only message board on the internet, but certainly, probably one of the most popular. | ||
| And it took away a lot of Sean Hannity's politics in order to get all those people there. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Let's not dwell on that picture. | ||
| Sean Hannity starts this giant message board. | ||
| Alex's line there clearly is, he has the right to kick people off that message board. | ||
| He has the right to kick people off the show. | ||
| It's not even censorship. | ||
| Censorship would be when the government does it. | ||
| But then again, he does think that the government is directing Google to do it. | ||
| So he does have that wiggle room. | ||
| But I honestly think that that is just his way of getting around this argument. | ||
| Against him. | ||
| You know, I don't think that that's a sincere position. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Oh, 100%. | ||
| I think that's just his way of like, well, in order for this to appear to be censorship, I must believe the government is secretly behind all of this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And all that. | ||
| So, it's just fun to hear this back in 2009, him understanding what it is to be censored and what have you. | ||
| Also, in this episode, Alex confesses to a sin that we have pointed the finger at him at. | ||
| A numerous number of times. | ||
| I killed another guy. | ||
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A numerous number of times. | |
| Oh, really? | ||
| Got all these people bringing me news. | ||
| The only way I can get through this is just read the headlines and maybe a paragraph. | ||
| Boo, Alex. | ||
| Show up an hour early regularly, buddy. | ||
| No, you can't do that. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Let's not go crazy. | ||
| When am I going to take my kids fishing? | ||
| Your show starts at 11, man. | ||
| It's not like you've got to wake up at 6 to get in there like one of these morning show guys. | ||
| No, they have to wake up at like 4, man. | ||
| Morning show guys suck. | ||
| I mean, their lives as far as the 4 a.m. | ||
| Yeah, it's miserable. | ||
| You've got to go to bed at like 7 in the evening. | ||
| So that's just fun. | ||
| And another fun thing is you've made a joke, I believe, on... | ||
| I don't know if it was the last one, but a recent 2009 episode, Alex just played the entire song Renegades. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And you're like, what, is he doing FM radio now? | ||
| What the fuck is going on here? | ||
| And in this next clip from April 2nd, he is doing FM radio. | ||
| But we've got a good chance of beating this if we fight back. | ||
| That's what history shows. | ||
| So for all of you out there who are fighting back, all of you spreading the Obama deception, to all of you standing up for liberty and freedom, this song is for you, Steve Voss and the Renegades. | ||
|
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Ha ha ha. | |
| He just plays the whole song again! | ||
| Alright, we've got to call her in. | ||
| Hey, hey, where are you coasting tonight? | ||
| Where are you coasting? | ||
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All right, yeah, that's tough, that's tough. | |
| And the lives they lead far ahead of. | ||
| All right, this one goes out to you, Terrence, in Northern California. | ||
| We're going to play all of the Renegades. | ||
| Terrence and Torrance. | ||
| Here comes Renegades by Steve Vouse. | ||
| I think it's crazy that within a week he's played that song in its entirety twice on his show. | ||
| Just loves that fucking song. | ||
| And that is like Delilah. | ||
| That is like, for all of you fighting for liberty, this one's going out to you. | ||
| It's definitely delightful. | ||
| And I think what it is, is he had that sort of moment where he's like, fuck, I got a lot of work to do. | ||
| I got to call my wife and tell her to tell the kids I'm not going fishing. | ||
| I think that's what it was. | ||
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This whole thing, he just doesn't want to go fishing with his kids. | |
| I think he realizes he's got to get ahead of it. | ||
| He's got to be like, I'm not coming home tonight. | ||
| I got to get off air. | ||
| So, a little bit of time goes by, and then he has another little block of calls, and he gets this call, which I really think... | ||
| I know we don't play too many calls of his on the show. | ||
| We had that guy just a couple of clips back where he's jealous of the illegal immigrants in the country. | ||
| We got fast-talking Lauren from Ohio. | ||
| Sure, who's a sovereign citizen. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Attaché of George Washington's in some way. | ||
| One of her ancestors was an aide-de-camp. | ||
| Aide-de-camp, excuse me. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I think we do a pretty good job of giving a cross-section of Alex's callers. | ||
| I think we could play one and do a pretty good job of giving a cross-section of Alex's callers. | ||
| There are some that are kind of boring and certainly not worth looking at or anything like that, but we're not unfair at all. | ||
| This next clip, if I only played this, it would be unfair. | ||
| This has got to be real bad, though. | ||
| Now, at the same time... | ||
| Either that or it's got to be incredibly progressive. | ||
| If I played just this call, it would be painting the picture that all of Alex Jones' callers are totally crazy. | ||
| At the same time, this call is not far out of the mainstream. | ||
|
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No, no, no. | |
| But it would be super unfair of me to just play calls like this. | ||
| But this is nuts. | ||
| Let's go ahead and talk to Maureen in Virginia. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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Hey, how are you? | |
| I'm alright. | ||
|
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I've got something. | |
| First of all, thank you for everything you do. | ||
| Now, so much that is said absolutely sounds scary. | ||
| We need to remember, we serve the Most High God. | ||
| These other idiots are serving Satan. | ||
| He only took one-third of the angels with him. | ||
| It's going to be a two-against-one fight. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| Now we're getting into troop numbers in the fight against the devil? | ||
| Satan is at a 2-1 disadvantage in this battle. | ||
| Wait, so now Satan's the one at the Alamo? | ||
| Shouldn't you be on Satan's side? | ||
| He's the underdog, man! | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| So that was the last clip we have, which is somewhat heartening in the sense that we don't have any more clips, and in the sense that... | ||
| The devil has got to work from behind. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| He's got a tough road to hope. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| The rest of the show is George Humphrey comes in studio. | ||
| And it's the same thing as in that interview with Rob Dew. | ||
| He keeps being like, we're filming this for the next Obama movie. | ||
| And so he's just doing takes and stuff like that. | ||
| George Humphrey calls Asian people Orientals at one point. | ||
| I'm like, oh no. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Oh no, George. | ||
| Good work. | ||
| And then immediately after that, he quotes Friday Night Lights, the open hearts, can't lose. | ||
| Clear eyes, open hearts, can't lose. | ||
|
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George, what are you doing? | |
| Very strange. | ||
| Hey, listen. | ||
| I'll tell you this right now. | ||
| Satan got out of there and he had a one to two negative. | ||
| He had no chance. | ||
| And he still did it. | ||
| He ran a 6.440. | ||
| Clear eyes. | ||
| Demon hearts can't lose. | ||
| I think the quote was, like, it doesn't matter if you're white, black, oriental, clear eyes, open eye, like, oh no! | ||
| No, you can't do that! | ||
| No, no, no, I wouldn't do that. | ||
| So that was bad. | ||
| And then the rest of it is all just stuff from the Obama Deception. | ||
| So as I was listening to it, I was just so incredibly bored. | ||
| Like, it was all just the same sort of stuff that he said in the Obama Deception. | ||
| So it doesn't give me much hope that the new film that Alex is making is going to be groundbreaking in any way. | ||
| It's very the same thing. | ||
| So if I understand correctly. | ||
| So far he's had Webster Tarpley and George Humphrey interviews for this new documentary. | ||
| The two people who were also in the original movie. | ||
| And he's had Rob Dew go to Sacramento to do some sort of race baiting about a homeless encampment. | ||
| So that's what we've got for the documentary so far. | ||
| Is this documentary like Evil Dead 2 where it's basically a remake of the first documentary? | ||
| I suspect it is. | ||
| I haven't watched it yet. | ||
| I suspect it is. | ||
| It's probably better quality. | ||
| Much like Evil Dead 2. Oh, I don't think so. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| No, I mean, compared to the Obama... | ||
|
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No, I understand. | |
| I understand. | ||
|
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Never mind. | |
| I don't think it will be, though. | ||
| No, I doubt it. | ||
| Because Alex also has said that, like, we're going to try and make this one more verite. | ||
| Less of that voiceover stuff. | ||
| This is actually a road documentary. | ||
| It's gonna be found footage. | ||
| I just saw the Blair Witch. | ||
| Innovative. | ||
| Isn't that huge right now? | ||
| In 2009, the Blair Witch Project. | ||
| My kids love it. | ||
| They watch it instead of going fishing with me. | ||
| Because I'm too busy trying to fuck with Glenn Beck. | ||
| Oh, man, how great would it be if his kids had already canceled on him going fishing and he had to create this whole psychodrama where he's the one who actually canceled on them. | ||
| I was trying to find a way to turn this into, like, a gift of the Magi. | ||
| They've sold their fishing rods in order to buy him the proof that Glenn Beck's a liar. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And he quit Infowars in order to take the official. | ||
| Yeah, perfect. | ||
| Okay, there we go. | ||
| Found the Magi. | ||
| So, I think this is interesting. | ||
| I think this episode is... | ||
| I mean, I might have oversold the beginning of it, certainly, being groundbreaking, and the idea that he's saying Soros is funding these protesters. | ||
| But that is interesting. | ||
| We could see that be a blip in the radar. | ||
| But it is interesting to see that there. | ||
| We're seeing the trends of Fox News becoming more like him, and he's getting fucking pissed off by it. | ||
| Glenn Beck, he could handle. | ||
| Because that works. | ||
| That fits. | ||
| He's talked about him in the past, about how he's a snake in the grass and all this stuff. | ||
| So it kind of works for him. | ||
| But now that you've got Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, all these other people coming and being too similar to him, he's like, they're exploiting my revenue stream. | ||
| This is my lane. | ||
| People are getting into it. | ||
| So I think that's interesting. | ||
| The clear evidence that he's just sort of funneling corporate propaganda, pretending it comes from somewhere else, that tickles me to no end. | ||
| And then he's just a racist. | ||
| It is fun. | ||
| It's both surprising and, when you think about it, incredibly obvious that he would notice before the rest of the culture at large realized that Fox News was becoming Infowars. | ||
| Of course, he picked up on it immediately because, yeah, they're fucking with his revenue. | ||
| The rest of us were like, Fox News is just going crazy. | ||
| We didn't realize that they were... | ||
| Taking their first step along the path of Infowars. | ||
| That's fascinating. | ||
| Yeah, it is a little bit. | ||
| It is one of the only insightful moments that we've seen from him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's worth something. | ||
| But I don't know. | ||
| We'll see how this all works out. | ||
| I am very... | ||
| Despite a lot of this being about the Queen and what have you and just how she shits... | ||
| Do you want to call Larry Nichols to confirm if the Queen has... | ||
| We're going to need to get Larry Nichols on here. | ||
| I'd rather not. | ||
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It's too late. | |
| I do feel like I'm enjoying April, and I hope it continues. | ||
| So far it's going alright. | ||
| Yeah, this 2009 April is feeling pretty good. | ||
| So, anyway, we'll be back soon. | ||
|
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Uh-huh. | |
| For all of you out there who celebrate it, Merry Christmas to you and yours. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| For those of you who don't, happy holidays and whatever. | ||
| And for those of you who don't have any holidays right now, cool, man! | ||
| Hey, good times! | ||
| You and me both, buddy. | ||
| Enjoy the cold. | ||
| We're all doing good. | ||
| But we have a website, knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| Do we have a Twitter? | ||
| We do. | ||
| It's knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| What about if there was a giant message board that was analogous to the one that Sean Hannity created in your analogy to the situation that we are currently in? | ||
| We are on... | ||
| Facebook! | ||
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Yep. | |
| We got a group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| We're also on iTunes. | ||
| You can download, subscribe, all that good stuff. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| You've heard a podcast before. | ||
| We will be back next time. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
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But... | |
| I would like to say that Lauren from Ohio hasn't killed anybody, but God, I feel like she's probably killed somebody. | ||
| Nah, it's a safe bet that Lauren from Ohio is in the clear on murder. | ||
|
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No way. | |
| Let's say she is. | ||
| Look at how messed up she is. | ||
| Look, you have no evidence that she's messed up. | ||
| You have no evidence that she's ever killed anybody. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| It is an irresponsible accusation. | ||
| So at this point, barring any further evidence, Lauren from Ohio has not killed anybody. | ||
| But one guy technically probably has, and that's Alex Jones. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |