Today, Dan and Jordan dig into a couple of present day episodes of The Alex Jones Show to see what he's up to, and what he thinks about all the news about his friends probably doing crimes. It turns out he doesn't talk much about that stuff, but he does spend a lot of time starting a very bizarre crusade against people who are younger than him.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are, Dan! | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Dan! | ||
| What up? | ||
| Which president do you most wish was never born? | ||
| That is a tough... | ||
| That is quite a... | ||
| Putting me in a pickle barrel there. | ||
| I know, that's a tough one. | ||
| In Missouri. | ||
| That's a real think piece. | ||
| I don't know, because see, here's the issue. | ||
| The Atlantic would run the shit out of that think piece. | ||
| Well, because we have to consider this. | ||
| How many presidents were truly individualistic acting presidents, and how many... | ||
| We're mere people in the sway of the times. | ||
| We're mere puppets. | ||
| Well, not puppets, but the times. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| If Andrew Jackson hadn't done all the evil shit he did, would some other crazy asshole have done it? | ||
| It wouldn't have worked out the exact same way. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| A lot of similar things might have happened. | ||
| I'm sure we wouldn't have treated Native Americans well if Andrew Jackson hadn't have done the things he did. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I reject your question because... | ||
| You just reject it outright? | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Well... | |
| Okay! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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Shut up! | |
| My reasoning is that to choose one individual would be to buy into the strongman theory of history, and I don't want to do that. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| So I'm hiding behind that as a way to not answer your question. | ||
| Yeah, that's a... | ||
| I don't want to say cowardly, but it would be the appropriate word. | ||
| Who would you say? | ||
| I ask you in the middle of taking a drink. | ||
| You know, that's a good question. | ||
| The fun thing about H.W. is that it knocks out two shit presidents at the same time. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| No, it doesn't. | ||
| Just one. | ||
| His son's still alive. | ||
| If H.W. wasn't born, then we get rid of two shit presidents. | ||
| And Jeb. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And, yeah. | ||
| So, H.W. is the one. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I guess if you're going to go that way, then there's some mathematical reasoning. | ||
| I will accept your answer, sir. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| This is a show where I know a lot about Alex Jones, and you know a lot about how without the father you can't have the son. | ||
| I know about basic genetics. | ||
| And therein lies the... | ||
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Exactly. | |
| So, Jordan, today what we've got in front of us is a modern day episode of Alex Jones. | ||
| Do we? | ||
| There's too much going on with Infowars World in the broader news. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Is there a bunch of InfoWars news going on in the broader arena? | ||
| Well, Jerome Corsi is threatening to have action against Mueller. | ||
| Well, yeah, but that's definitely within his power. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it's goofy. | ||
| Doesn't come up at all in this episode. | ||
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Of course not! | |
| There's no way Alex is advertising any of Curse's terrible ideas. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| You have the news coming out that Roger Stone is pleading the fifth, and he's not going to give any information to the investigations. | ||
| Again, delight how much of a monster he is. | ||
| He's just like, come at me, bro. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Insane, I love him. | ||
| And then further, we had the memo that came out about Flynn's cooperation, which flies fairly counter to a lot of the things Alex has said about Flynn in the past. | ||
| Oh yeah, that's not going to be good. | ||
| So, you know, I really wanted to jump in this week and get down to it and find out what Alex is talking about. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| And would you be surprised to find out almost none of that? | ||
| Yeah, no, no. | ||
| I would absolutely not be surprised to find out. | ||
| He is on some crazy bullshit, though. | ||
| We're sticking with the Chinese guy who created clones. | ||
| Story doesn't come up, although it has been pointed out that you were a soothsayer because it's come out that that guy is now missing. | ||
| Oh, yeah, no. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Most well-known Chinese actress in the world and just disappeared her for four months. | ||
| Of course the guy who created a fucking affront to God is going to go away. | ||
| Safest prediction Jordan has ever made on this podcast. | ||
| No, that story doesn't come back up. | ||
| But a lot of crazy nonsense does. | ||
| And some of this is going to be really interesting, and a couple things are going to be downright very funny. | ||
| Do you know it's not downright? | ||
| No, that one's not right. | ||
| No. | ||
| I was trying. | ||
| I appreciate your effort, but what I appreciate more... | ||
| No! | ||
| Damn it! | ||
| ...is our donors. | ||
| I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who have signed up and are now supporting the show. | ||
| First, I'd like to say, Bert, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Bert. | ||
| Thank you very much, Bert. | ||
| Second, I'd like to say thank you to Douglas. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Douglas. | ||
| Thank you very much, Douglas. | ||
| Also, I'd like to say thank you to Aaron. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you very much, Aaron. | ||
| Now, also, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who has donated on a little bit of a higher level, and it makes sense that they did. | ||
| Quite frankly, whenever someone donates, like, you know, more than just a little... | ||
| What is it, Soros? | ||
| They can afford that much money? | ||
| It is not Soros. | ||
| However, it is George Soros Jr. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
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No! | |
| You owe us! | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
| He's a loser little titty baby. | ||
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you so much, Soros Jr. | ||
| Thank you very much, George Soros Jr. | ||
| I'm going to imagine that's Alex Soros. | ||
| I don't think there is a George Soros Jr. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I don't remember all of his kids' names. | ||
| Do you remember the Kennedy kid who was trapped in the asylum for a million years? | ||
| I don't remember that story. | ||
| Oh, that's an old legend. | ||
| That's like the man in the iron mask. | ||
| Okay, that might be why. | ||
| I don't remember it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, there was a Kennedy that they were all ashamed of for being deformed in some form or another. | ||
| And they hit him away in a mental institution. | ||
| That's not the situation with George Soros Jr. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| I think it might be. | ||
| And I appreciate him very much. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| If you would like to be like George Soros Jr. and support the show, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking that button that says support the show, and we would appreciate it. | ||
| It would be very helpful. | ||
| And I appreciate that this episode is a modern day episode and isn't going to be too painful. | ||
| Like, his show sucks a lot right now in the present day, and there's going to be some good opportunities for clowning. | ||
| And this out-of-context drop should give you a little taste of what I mean. | ||
| Why you pimp so good? | ||
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Alright. | |
| The mind reels. | ||
| Why is that said? | ||
| First off... | ||
| That is a legitimate question. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I respect that question. | ||
| I've always wanted to answer that myself. | ||
| And at this point, that accent is clearly offensive, but we can't quite tell why. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| You just get the sense of like, hmm, he's doing something off-color. | ||
| There's a problem. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know how to codify it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So today's episode will be going over the December 4th and 5th episodes of The Alex Jones Show. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Which is Monday, or what is that? | ||
| Tuesday and Wednesday. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| Of this week. | ||
| And Tuesday the 4th is not all that great. | ||
| I'll be up front with you. | ||
| Not that great. | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
| Are you telling us that you listened to an entire Alex Jones show and decided that in the present day it wasn't that great? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| It seems to happen a lot. | ||
| That's pretty much every modern day episode we do now. | ||
| Yeah, but there are a couple things that are worthwhile. | ||
| And one of the things is that when he's coming back from break in the middle of the show, Alex breaks out a song parody that we can all enjoy. | ||
| All right, here we go. | ||
| We had a First Amendment in America. | ||
| And they didn't try to teach our five-year-olds how to get blowjobs at public school. | ||
| But now, now half of us have got autism. | ||
| And the other half have got cancer. | ||
| Is that because of the kid blowjobs? | ||
| And the churches are all closing and world government's here. | ||
| And Tim Cook's running slave factories and he's going to take the rest of your freedom. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That doesn't rhyme. | ||
| You like that, Roger? | ||
| I can sing discordantly over the wrong lyrics. | ||
| That's like cats howling in the back of the trash pile, but it's what we do here. | ||
| A little something special. | ||
| That is very special. | ||
| That is not... | ||
| How the lyrics go. | ||
| And it's fun because Roger is on the show at this point in the episode. | ||
| He's just sitting there. | ||
| Wait, he's really just on the show? | ||
| Roger, I'm about to be indicted by the fucking government for treason stone. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's sitting there while Alex Jones sings bullshit over a country song. | ||
| Against the wind. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the Seeger version, though. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't fucking understand why he didn't play the Highwaymen version. | ||
| He plays Highwaymen all the time. | ||
| Now is not the time for Highwaymen. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And you don't want to desecrate the Highwaymen. | ||
| I meant by singing about five-year-olds giving blowjobs over him. | ||
| Man, do you think that actually sounds like a reasonable thought he might have had? | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Probably told the board operator, hey. | ||
| Play the Seeger one. | ||
| I'm going to be a dick. | ||
| I can't do that to Willie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wait, was it Seeger? | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| Is it Jackson Brown? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Who did the original Against the Wind? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| I think it's Jackson Brown. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| He sang Doctor My Eyes. | ||
| That's a good song. | ||
| Anyway... | ||
| I reject your reference. | ||
| How about that? | ||
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How about that? | |
| That's a new one. | ||
| Yeah, here we go. | ||
| This is going to bother me. | ||
| I might end up looking it up in the middle of the show. | ||
| Let's see how long we can go before it eats away at your soul enough. | ||
| You're actually doing it right now. | ||
| The moment I started talking, you were like, I bet Jordan will go on long enough for me to fucking look it up. | ||
| And the answer is Dan. | ||
| Oh, thank God it's Seeger. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Why did I doubt myself? | ||
| You always doubt yourself. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Let's redo the show! | ||
| This is why sometimes... | ||
| Ah, it's like my Dr. Weirich, my logic professor in college. | ||
| One time... | ||
| You said his name like I should know who he is. | ||
| Oh, do you mean Dr. Weirich? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I took him for many semesters because he just had a great sort of laid-back style of teaching. | ||
| He was real nerdy and awesome. | ||
| He had... | ||
| We'd go over logic problems in class and break down sentences on the board and stuff like that. | ||
| If we had questions about one... | ||
| And one student in the class, a fellow student, was asking, my intuition says this argument is valid, but I don't think it is. | ||
| Going through it, I don't think it is. | ||
| Professor Weirich breaks it down. | ||
| It's a long, exhaustive, like, explanation why the argument is valid. | ||
| In summation, this is proof of why sometimes you shouldn't distrust your intuition. | ||
| Like, that's a fun thing to hear in logic class. | ||
| That's exactly what I felt there with the seeker. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Which also is like saying nothing at all, obviously. | ||
| If you're saying, well, this proves that sometimes you shouldn't. | ||
| That implies that sometimes you should, and it doesn't give you any context. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's just like, sometimes things happen. | ||
| But that's how logicians get playful. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| The sexiest study of all. | ||
| Logicians. | ||
| The playful logician. | ||
| That'll be my autobiography. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| I thought it was your return to stand-up is going to be pure characters. | ||
| Oh, yeah, and it's all going to be just diagramming sentences. | ||
| That actually would be pretty funny. | ||
| So, Roger's there, and in this next clip, Alex... | ||
| Well, Roger says something about Alex and his plans. | ||
| And then Alex pretends that they aren't... | ||
| Like, he pretends that what Roger's saying isn't true for no reason. | ||
| This is super weird. | ||
| Real quick. | ||
| Before we go any further. | ||
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Right. | |
| That was a complicated, convoluted introduction. | ||
| All I want to know, because I can't see the video in any way, does Roger carry a bug-out bag with him at all times? | ||
| I only listen to the audio of this. | ||
| I can't speak to that. | ||
| See, because he should be carrying a bag full of many denominations and different currencies with him. | ||
| That would be wise. | ||
| As well as a change of clothes and like a disguised top hat. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, a top hat with like some... | ||
| With, like, the glasses and big nose and mustache. | ||
| And, of course, a school bus-sized vaporizer. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| That's important. | ||
| That's part of any good bug out bag. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And that Where to Hide Your Guns book. | ||
| Oh, well. | ||
| All of these things can be bought through. | ||
| He doesn't need to hide his guns. | ||
| He needs the Where to Put Your Guns on Your Body to Avoid Them Being Found in the airport. | ||
| A book just about boot derringers. | ||
| I would read that book. | ||
| They're having this conversation about their plans. | ||
| This is just super weird. | ||
| I don't know why Alex is being like this. | ||
| Alex, you're coming to South Florida between Christmas and New Year's, and we're going to be doing some things to bring this very forcefully to the president's attention. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| We haven't wargamed this out yet, so you think we should let people know? | ||
| Well, I don't think we have to tell them precisely what we have in mind other than to say... | ||
| You want to come to a warmer climate between the holidays. | ||
| And, you know, I think it's important for us to do some things, to draw public attention, not only to the issue of Internet censorship, but to the peril that this president faces because he's taken on the globalists, because he is trying to remake America and get us back to our fundamental principles. | ||
| This is why he strikes such fear in the hearts of the neocons and the two-party duopoly that run this country into the ground. | ||
| By the way, Roger, you're just joking. | ||
| I'm not coming to Florida. | ||
| Even though you joke about me coming. | ||
| Right, Roger? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you're not coming. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| You are something else. | ||
| So I can... | ||
| That was Roger's go home and tell your mother you're brilliant. | ||
| Yeah, I get it. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| You're not coming. | ||
| You realize I am going to jail forever. | ||
| You realize that. | ||
| You realize that right now everyone is looking at me. | ||
| All that is is, Roger, I think he's saying that you're going to come down to Florida and we're going to do a publicity stunt at Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| That's what I hear. | ||
| Alex is like, wait, don't tip our hand. | ||
| So look for that to come in the next couple weeks, or maybe it won't. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| That seems to be what they're talking about. | ||
| Almost assuredly. | ||
| Yeah, so whatever. | ||
| I love Alex when he thinks he's being coy. | ||
| Because he's so bad at it? | ||
| I can't tell if that's what he's doing or if he thinks he's being funny, but he's failing it either. | ||
| No matter what the intention is, that clip is a zero. | ||
| It's a failure of sorts. | ||
| Now, it's important to recognize, early in the week... | ||
| There was Trump tweeted about Roger Stone not being weak and scared like Cohen was. | ||
| Can we hold on real quick? | ||
| Trump committed a crime by... | ||
| And there you go. | ||
| You can continue. | ||
| A lot of people have speculated that that's witness tampering. | ||
| Trump crimed, and now we can continue. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not a lawyer, so I can't speak to that. | ||
| It does seem fucked up. | ||
| I think it's weird, certainly. | ||
| And so, on this appearance, Roger doesn't have the stories about him pleading the Fifth or Flynn stuff to talk about. | ||
| So the only thing he responds to is, like, that isn't witness tampering. | ||
| Like, alright, whatever. | ||
| It's not all that interesting. | ||
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Sure. | |
| They have a narrative that they want to spend most of their time on, and that is the passing of the USMCA, which is the... | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Yeah, that's... | ||
| No. | ||
| USMCA. | ||
| Why do I doubt that? | ||
| You are... | ||
| Man, we gotta work on your self-esteem today. | ||
| The A didn't seem right, but I forgot that that stands for agreement. | ||
| Confidence. | ||
| The US-Mexico-Canada agreement. | ||
| The sort of reimagining of NAFTA. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Also the sequel to the YMCA. | ||
| It's not fun to stay at the USMCA. | ||
| According to Alex, at least. | ||
| Because it destroys free speech. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| Is that how that works? | ||
| In the world, yes. | ||
| I really don't think that's how that works. | ||
| It's a little bit complicated what he's talking about and why he has these ideas, but it is interesting because he makes a declaration about what is going to happen if that gets ratified. | ||
| And we'll see if he sticks to it. | ||
| Dogs will learn English! | ||
| But the USMCA also entrenches tech companies' right to censor without liability. | ||
| Article 19.17 of the Trade Agreement gives tech companies immunity from any lawsuits arising from actions taken to restrict material it considers to be harmful or objectionable. | ||
| That's Pandora's box, the entire universe. | ||
| Section 230 has a similarly problematic provision, which needs to be amended by the next Congress if the censorship of the Internet is to be stopped. | ||
| And it goes on to point out that it has to be ratified and that we must block it. | ||
| So let's stop it right there. | ||
| I will say, I admire the President, I love the President, I'm with the President, and I know he'll do the right thing. | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| When he gets the right advice, as Roger Scone has said, ad nauseum. | ||
| But this is my lie in the sand. | ||
| It is my Rubicon River. | ||
| If this gets ratified by the Republican-controlled Senate, if Trump does not act against this, Then it means that he is capitulating to the Dems and has thought that they've won and that America failed because he's really been trying so far and that he's signaling the white flag because you're not allowed to just sign over our First Amendment. | ||
| You're not allowed to do all this. | ||
| Now remember, Alex Jones is above the right-left spectrum. | ||
| He's trying to get you out of that two-party paradigm. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So the Dems are trying to destroy America also at the same time. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I mean, I'm above it, but obviously the Dems are the ones who are evil. | ||
| And if Trump allows this USMCA to be ratified, then that is his line in the sand, and he must go against Trump at that point because he is capitulated. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we'll see if that happens. | ||
| Yeah, good luck. | ||
| The article 19.17 is a little bit murky, and I actually kind of agree with him a tiny bit. | ||
| If only because they need to specify the language a little bit more. | ||
| The idea of what is objectionable content and stuff like that, it could be interpreted a little bit broadly. | ||
| I don't think it gets rid of free speech. | ||
| I think he's being a little bit exaggerating in that sense, but he has a kernel of something that I kind of agree with. | ||
| I mean, whenever he starts talking about that, the first thing I think of is the EU's Idiotic, like, copyright bullshit that they're trying to put on the internet where it's like, I get your idea. | ||
| And I totally agree that something needs to be done. | ||
| But this was written by old white dudes who don't understand the internet at all. | ||
| And it's going to be a disaster if you try and apply this shit to the internet. | ||
| It's gonna be fucking chaos. | ||
| Tumblr banned porn and now you can't find Garfield there. | ||
| You know, like, it's like, you guys, I get it. | ||
| I think you're on your way, but you're not smart enough. | ||
| To handle the internet, because nobody is. | ||
| Possibly sensible ideas applied too broadly can end up in sort of dangerous waters. | ||
| It needs to be so narrow on the internet, and it needs to be so specific. | ||
| It's like writing code, in that if you fuck up, everything is fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I think so. | ||
| So, I mean, I do kind of agree with him in as much as it goes towards ratification. | ||
| They should flesh out the language a little bit more, and if they do, then I don't think there's any problems. | ||
| But even if it's passed as it is, I don't think it's necessarily going to lead to problems that can't, at that point, be sorted out. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Anyway, when Alex got kicked off the internet, which he didn't, when he got kicked off Twitter and Facebook and YouTube... | ||
| There were some articles that went around about how Alex Jones got kicked off and now he has no audience. | ||
| And in response, Alex has railed about how he's doing better than ever. | ||
| Sounds true. | ||
| There's more listeners than ever. | ||
| Ha ha, this blew up in your face, globalist. | ||
| Sounds true. | ||
| Which is interesting because on the 4th he says this. | ||
| And you've got to go to RightTrump.com. | ||
| We are going to deliver. | ||
| You know, I'll say this. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Sometimes I do a write-in deal. | ||
| We get 100,000 signatures right away, which we had delivered. | ||
| We only had like 50,000. | ||
| And that's great, but it's writeTrump.com. | ||
| It's our letter Roger and I wrote. | ||
| You can write in your own letter. | ||
| You can print it off and mail it. | ||
| He's only gotten 50,000 signatures on his... | ||
| Tell Trump that he needs to protect free speech or else America is over campaign. | ||
| That's because so many... | ||
| It was like a DDoS attack. | ||
| So many people visited the website at the same time. | ||
| That must be it. | ||
| That was it! | ||
| It's obvious. | ||
| This is tough, man. | ||
| 50,000 people isn't anything for someone who has an operation like Alex. | ||
| You would hope. | ||
| And it's not like he just launched this. | ||
| It's been like two weeks that... | ||
| Oh, that's not good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| This is, like, that might be as many engaged listeners as Alex has at this point. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That he can direct to a place where all you do is sign something electronically and then he sends a letter to Mar-a-Lago or some shit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's low stakes. | ||
| There's no money involved. | ||
| There's no hurdle in order for engagement. | ||
| You literally type in your name and that's it. | ||
| Basically, probably hit, like, one of those CAPTCHA buttons. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| If you're not a robot. | ||
| Are you a robot? | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| Does not compute. | ||
| So, man, I don't know. | ||
| I know that that's not, like, a reliable barometer of all of his audience. | ||
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Right. | |
| But that is not a good sign. | ||
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Uh-uh. | |
| That is tough. | ||
| That is a sign that you should start working on your overhead and seeing whether or not there are things that can be cut. | ||
| See if there's non-essential employees, like everyone it involves. | ||
| So, this is the last clip from the fourth, and Alex is complaining about Tim Cook and Google. | ||
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Of course. | |
| And China. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| It is whatever, but this gets really dumb. | ||
| And Tim Cook goes to China and encourages them to be more draconian. | ||
| He encourages them to pay people less. | ||
| And the party says, we're having major riots because you pay people the lowest level in the country. | ||
| And he says, if you don't like it, we're leaving. | ||
| I mean, behind the scenes, he's just like, I'm in command. | ||
| And he reportedly just goes, rawr. | ||
| Reportedly. | ||
| I'm Tim Cook. | ||
| I'm a nice little engineer that Steve Jobs begged to run things because I get things done. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So they overcharge you. | ||
| They make sure that, don't believe me, just search engine Chinese Communist Party tells Apple to share the wealth with the public. | ||
| Bing that. | ||
| Even the greedy chai comms. | ||
| Say, man, you pimp so good. | ||
| Oh, that's why he's gracious. | ||
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Why you pimp so good? | |
| One time, Snoop Dogg said that to my cousin. | ||
| He goes, nah. | ||
| Well, how you pimp so good? | ||
| I can't tell the story, but the point is, it's a real story. | ||
| What? | ||
| When did Snoop Dogg say that to Buckley? | ||
| Was that one of Buckley's DJ games? | ||
| Yeah, Buckley was dropping... | ||
| He's dropping some beats. | ||
| Snoop Dogg was in Austin at the time. | ||
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Walks in. | |
| That has to be. | ||
| Realizes how great Buckley is. | ||
| On the ones and twos. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Why you pimp so good on the wheels of steel. | ||
| Throws a few bars down. | ||
| Everybody's happy. | ||
| Man. | ||
| It's a good night. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| I don't know why he can't tell the story because it seems innocuous enough and it's a celebrity interaction. | ||
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Because he fucked up. | |
| Snoop Dogg. | ||
| No. | ||
| I think Alex and Snoop Dogg had sex. | ||
| I think Alex doesn't want people to know that Buckley is also a house DJ, because I think it interferes with his image of his family and all that stuff. | ||
| Or Buckley doesn't want people to know that he's a house DJ. | ||
| But that's not true. | ||
| He has a SoundCloud under his own name, Buckley Hammond. | ||
| And he has a picture of him on there. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I mean, I don't think it's any secret that Buckley is keeping. | ||
| Maybe that he's related to Alex. | ||
| Yeah, I think I was going to say, Buckley Hambin doesn't immediately make you jump to, oh, this guy's probably Alex Jones' cousin. | ||
| You kind of have to know who he is or have read Ashley Beckford's EEOC complaint where he's named as the director of operations or something like that for InfoWars. | ||
| I'm interested in how he managed to be racist towards two... | ||
| Distinct groups of people. | ||
| See, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| With one sentence. | ||
| That's pretty impressive. | ||
| That's bananas. | ||
| Because the first time he said why, like, what was it? | ||
| Why you pimp so good? | ||
| You pimp so good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Was almost with an offensive Asian accent. | ||
| And then the second one was a mix. | ||
| And then the second one was, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then he went back to it, he went back to the well for a third time, and boy, super racist. | ||
| It's not, it's, it's, yeah. | ||
| But, I mean, what do you expect? | ||
| That's sort of his bread and butter. | ||
| Racist accents. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Spoiler alert, I cut out a bunch of him just doing Bernie Sanders. | ||
| I was going to say, was that Bernie Sanders? | ||
| No. | ||
| There is a bunch of him rambling about nonsense. | ||
| Anyway, this is the end of the fourth, and now we go on to the fifth. | ||
| And there's a bit more meat in the fifth. | ||
| And we will see some interesting stuff. | ||
| Alex starts off the show by saying that he has come to a big realization. | ||
| And now here's a report from John Bound. | ||
| I love it! | ||
| Love it! | ||
| He does that standard stuff. | ||
| You've got to fill that first six minutes because the radio stations aren't playing it. | ||
| Plays a John Bound report. | ||
| Goes to break and comes back. | ||
| So this is the formal start of the show. | ||
| It was the best of times. | ||
| It was the worst of times. | ||
| I read a book! | ||
| Really good things are happening. | ||
| You read one line of books. | ||
| Yeah, well. | ||
| It is a big one. | ||
| By the corporate power structure, by radical Islam, by the whole Hollywood cartel. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Nation states are being reborn. | ||
| Capitalism and free market is being rediscovered. | ||
| Crony capitalism has never been in fear trouble. | ||
| Sucking the earth dry, actually. | ||
| So that's the good news. | ||
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Is that the good news? | |
| That's the best of times part of this. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But everything you said was wrong. | ||
| Christianity realizes it's under attack. | ||
| Nationalism is on the rise. | ||
| These are the good things. | ||
| Christianity's always thought it was under attack. | ||
| It was. | ||
| It had a rough go for a while. | ||
| But we're not talking any kind of Judaism where... | ||
| Thousands of years later, we're still getting fucked with kind of situation. | ||
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You know what I'm saying? | |
| Alex doesn't want to talk about that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because he's kind of a part of it. | ||
| So that's the good news. | ||
| All this stuff. | ||
| Christianity realizes it's time to punch back. | ||
| Sure, yeah. | ||
| The free market is coming back. | ||
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Thanks, Christianity. | |
| The free market! | ||
| We were hoping for another Crusades. | ||
| So now here's the bad news. | ||
| Oh, we got it right. | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| The bad news is incredible wealth and incredible success always breeds entropy. | ||
| It breeds decadence. | ||
| It breeds spoiled, rotten gangs and cartels of individuals that will ally themselves with the worst sorts in the power structure and then who will systematically go out and hunt down every time in history their betters because they don't like the fact that we exist. | ||
| And the fact that we're moral and strong always is a... | ||
| You're talking about white people. | ||
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Come on. | |
| Horrible little globalist thing. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| It does feel like code. | ||
| Come on, just say you're talking about white people. | ||
| Man, it feels like code. | ||
| Come on, Alex! | ||
| You know you want to. | ||
| I never like anybody who talks about groups of people recognizing their betters and stuff like that. | ||
| That sort of language is rarely applied outside of bigotry. | ||
| I don't know where else anyone of sound mind... | ||
| It refers to a group as their lessers. | ||
| Anything like that. | ||
| I just don't understand. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Most people would not think to classify people along those sorts of lines. | ||
| Pipefitters? | ||
| No? | ||
| Don't they have greater and lesser pipefitters? | ||
| Mages. | ||
| Oh, mages. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Those don't exist. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Mages don't exist. | ||
| Those are fictional creatures. | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Creatures. | ||
| So we have here the good news, bad news. | ||
| The best of times, worst of times. | ||
| Dichotomy that we have that is somehow involved in Alex's having a big revelation. | ||
| So we have Christianity is fighting back. | ||
| Free market is on the rise. | ||
| Bad news, making a lot of money, being really successful, breeds decadence. | ||
| And then these decadent types always hunt down their betters. | ||
| So that's the good news, bad news. | ||
| It's unclear what he's talking about right now. | ||
| I was going to say, and also, aren't those both the same thing? | ||
| I don't want to get into that, but yeah, probably. | ||
| Isn't he just describing the exact same coin? | ||
| Not even two sides of it. | ||
| He's just looking at the same face. | ||
| Two halves of one side of a coin. | ||
| Yeah, exactly! | ||
| I think probably, but there's somewhere he's going with this that is crazy. | ||
| And I'll say the big reveal of what his revelation is, massively disappointing. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But on the way there, I had a huge realization about why he's spinning the narrative that he's spinning. | ||
| On this episode. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| On the 5th. | ||
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| And we will get to that. | ||
| Are we talking blood tree ocean level crazy? | ||
| Not crazy, just stupid. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So here's where he introduces the beginning of his, I don't know, thesis, maybe? | ||
| That's generous. | ||
| Yeah, that's way too generous. | ||
| Disorganized harangue? | ||
| Guiding sentence, maybe? | ||
| I saw a, what I call a constellation. | ||
| Orion. | ||
| People never use that term. | ||
| That's the old term of connecting the dots. | ||
| I saw Rand Paul talking about the deep state, the definition of it, being these agencies not giving Congress what they're doing. | ||
| That's them making their own branch of government. | ||
| Ooh, that's interesting. | ||
| How's he going to come down on the show? | ||
| That's a term I use that you don't hear in modern nomenclature or par loss, but we're going to use it today because here's a constellation of articles that all tie together. | ||
| It's a theme. | ||
| You won't see this theme in the news. | ||
| It's not a theme that corporate news is pushing, but it's hidden in the news. | ||
| And it's hidden in plain view. | ||
| So here's a few examples of it. | ||
| So we have a constellation of news articles that you have to dig under the surface in order to understand the themes, which actually is very similar to how Gerald Salenti has described his trends forecasting strategy. | ||
| There's a real decent chance that maybe the two of them have had a conversation and Alex is like, oh, you just read articles and make stuff up? | ||
| Okay, cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Try and find commonalities between the articles that may or may not exist. | ||
| Didn't they both have a cabalist for a while on staff? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| So we'll see. | ||
| We'll see how this plays out. | ||
| There's a constellation of news articles. | ||
| I'm more than willing to hear you out on this, Alex. | ||
| As somebody who enjoys words. | ||
| I spent many years as a lit major and I wrote and was horrendously unpublished. | ||
| Crime Against Nature. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Nature. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Deserved every bit. | ||
| Crime Against the Publication Nature magazine. | ||
| There's a reason that we don't say constellation of articles, and it has nothing to do with modern... | ||
| Oh, that's like a murder of crows. | ||
| No, it's the proper term for a grouping of articles. | ||
| What are you fucking talking about? | ||
| Constellation of articles. | ||
| It sounds terrible. | ||
| In my resume, because I'm a much better writer than you, I have a constellation of articles that have been published in various journals. | ||
| Oh, Dan! | ||
| That is not true. | ||
| That is one of the... | ||
| Oh, I'm going to get you to understand the fucking active voice. | ||
| Before I die. | ||
| I love the passive voice and the subjunctive. | ||
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No! | |
| Anyway, in this next clip, were I to play this next clip, one would hear. | ||
| No! | ||
| To hell with you! | ||
| So Alex brings in his first article. | ||
| I shall play a constellation of clips for you, Dan. | ||
| In this first clip, Jordan. | ||
| Alex talks about his first article, and pay attention to when this article came out. | ||
| 1974. | ||
| And it's hidden in plain view. | ||
| So here's a few examples of it. | ||
| Remember this from last year and this year? | ||
| They had big national studies and polls. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So it's from a year ago. | ||
| We're already in super vague territory. | ||
| This is from over a year ago, this first article in his Constellation. | ||
| And he says they have a bunch of studies. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Wait till he makes his point. | ||
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| I'm just saying that in constellations, stars are of different distances. | ||
| So, you know, the one star in Orion is further away. | ||
| It's maybe a year older than another star. | ||
| A day to God is a thousand years, as they say. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Done by universities. | ||
| The annual report on U.S. attitudes. | ||
| Majority of millennials want to live in a socialist, fascist, or communist nation. | ||
| Because they're being told at the university they're going to be in charge of it. | ||
| I think that might be a loaded question. | ||
| Imagine how sick that is. | ||
| And there's a bunch of studies that show the same thing. | ||
| A bunch? | ||
| Actually, we say it's sick, bro. | ||
| 44% of millennials prefer socialism. | ||
| Do they know what it means? | ||
| No. | ||
| Do you? | ||
| Millennials. | ||
| Communism sounds pretty chill. | ||
| Well, if you mean being room temperature, it is pretty chill. | ||
| That's not what chill means. | ||
| Millennials and socialism would create a great safe space, study finds. | ||
| Because they create these false realities on these universities. | ||
| So all of those headlines that he read were all write-ups on Fox News, Breitbart, other web-based publications. | ||
| Do you mean fair and balanced articles written by fair and balanced publications? | ||
| They're all articles on the same study. | ||
| So he's acting like there are a bunch of studies going on, but instead there are just a bunch of hack right-wing articles written about the same study. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Yeah, he's trying to create the perception of, like, a year ago there were all of these studies that came out that were all like, oh, these kids all want communism. | ||
| The kids! | ||
| Millennials! | ||
| You know how they're what? | ||
| 30 now? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I googled the first headline that he read. | ||
| I found them all, but because it was the first one, I'm just basing this on that. | ||
| It was from the Washington Times, which of course is owned by the Moonies. | ||
| The article is a write-up of the quote, annual report on U.S. attitudes towards socialism, put out by the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation. | ||
| They put an annual report? | ||
| Second annual. | ||
| Okay, so this isn't like something that's been going on since the 70s, and every year we get like a, how does America feel about socialism this year? | ||
| We have no trend information whatsoever. | ||
| So we don't even have a pattern. | ||
| We have two unrelated data points. | ||
| And I couldn't find in any of these articles what the data was last year. | ||
| It's not on the... | ||
| So they don't even have the first annual report? | ||
| I'm not sure if that's up or down. | ||
| I have no idea how to contextualize any of this. | ||
| All right, great. | ||
| So interestingly, the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, just based on its name, doesn't seem like it's an unbiased source of information. | ||
| I don't understand how. | ||
| As it so happens, the foundation was created by the authorization of Congress in 1993 after being proposed by Representative Dana Rohrabacher. | ||
| That motherfucker! | ||
| And Senator Jesse Helms. | ||
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What? | |
| That motherfucker. | ||
| They're still around? | ||
| Well, in 1993. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Roebacher just got voted out, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, he's finally fucked, but really. | ||
| That's not a great crew who's putting forth this... | ||
| No, unbiased. | ||
| Trying to get this Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation recognized. | ||
| They just... | ||
| And authorized. | ||
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| The truth out there, Dan. | ||
| Now, interestingly, looking at their tax information that's available on ProPublica, a trend of increased cash flow in recent years is very clear. | ||
| I don't understand why. | ||
| They took in just $71,000 in 2013, a little bit over a million dollars in 2014. | ||
| That seems like a big jump! | ||
| And $5.8 million in 2015. | ||
| I don't understand how that is possible. | ||
| 2016 is not available, the tax records, but I imagine it's another jump. | ||
| Wherever their funding might be coming from, which is unclear, I can't figure it out. | ||
| It's probably funneled through various... | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| It's all individual donors, Dan. | ||
| Just like how we get several million dollars a month from individual donors. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know. | ||
| Wherever it's coming from, that money, one thing is very certain. | ||
| The Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation was founded by an organization called the National Captive Nations Committee. | ||
| The NCNC was an organization that was founded by, quote, unrepentant Nazi allies who came to the U.S. after World War II, largely members of a group called the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists. | ||
| During the war, members of the group collaborated with the Nazis, rounded up Jews, and assisted in assassinating and exterminating thousands of people. | ||
| In 1946, they rebranded as the Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations under the leadership of a man named Yaroslav Stetsko. | ||
| It seemed like you were trying to get my attention there. | ||
| I'm just amazed at their... | ||
| Brilliant strategy of naming things not We're Super Nazi Collaborator. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because if they named it We're Super Nazi Collaborators, that would probably not go over as well. | ||
| That'd be tough. | ||
| Even for David O 'Rourbacher. | ||
| Although, that might not be true. | ||
| So they rebranded as the anti-Bolshevik bloc of nations, and when they arrived in the United States after the war, they began organizing captive nations committees, where they would present themselves as representatives of populations of countries oppressed by communism. | ||
| Hi, we're not. | ||
| These people are Nazis too. | ||
| Why don't we treat them nicely? | ||
| They worked with Nazis, but somehow weren't considered Nazis and were allowed to come over. | ||
| I really feel like that's not the same. | ||
| Like, that shouldn't be. | ||
| Yeah, it's not great. | ||
| It was the perfect time to do that, as anti-communism was real hot that season, and they began to become active in the Republican National Committee. | ||
| The National Captive Nations Committee grew out of that, and then in 1993 formed the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation. | ||
| One of the ways they do this is to include the deaths of Soviet soldiers who died fighting Nazis in World War II as part of their number of deaths blamed on communism statistic, which is obviously intellectually very dishonest. | ||
| It's ironic that they would include the people that were fighting literally against them. | ||
| That is almost opportunistic. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| While we can't say that all anti-communist sentiment traces back to this motivation, at least in the case of the NCNC, it's... | ||
| It's very clear that the root is Nazi apology. | ||
| The fundamental thing people gain by misrepresenting the death toll of communism is to make the crimes of Hitler seem smaller. | ||
| We've seen Alex present this very line of argument time and time again, when he'll say things like, yeah, Hitler was bad, but communism so much worse. | ||
| I'm sure this isn't always the case, but in the case of the NCNC, their reason for making this argument is because they were literally fighting alongside Nazis. | ||
| So once again, Alex is inadvertently promoting Nazi propaganda. | ||
| But now, in the present day, isn't that weird? | ||
| Man, people just can't stop loving Nazis. | ||
| And this isn't too hard to sort out. | ||
| Like, it's not hard to find this information. | ||
| Like, you just... | ||
| You Google the study. | ||
| Find the study. | ||
| You're like, oh, who put this out? | ||
| Find the name of the organization. | ||
| You already did too much research for me, Dan! | ||
| I quit! | ||
| Alex is, like... | ||
| Like, legitimately presenting things that trace back to groups that were Nazi collaborators. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And just because they happen to demonize his preferred group, communists, he's like, he doesn't care to look into who they are. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Man, it is so... | ||
| I'm just gonna go with shocking. | ||
| Shocking. | ||
| That the party of Lincoln, Dan... | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| You sound like you're gonna cry. | ||
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| They just have been... | ||
| Infiltrated by these Nazis. | ||
| It's definitely not that the party itself is... | ||
| Welcome to the infiltration? | ||
| No. | ||
| Come on, Dan. | ||
| It's definitely not that the Republican Party is the greatest threat to democracy on the planet right now. | ||
| That sounds crazy. | ||
| Wisconsin would disagree. | ||
| Hold your tears because this isn't about that group. | ||
| They're just the ones who did the study. | ||
| I know. | ||
| They're garbage, though. | ||
| Fuck them. | ||
| They're very clearly not an unbiased source of information, and so if they're funding the study or commissioning the study... | ||
| You should probably throw the baby out with the bathwater. | ||
| In any study where a poll question is like, would you rather have socialism, fascism, or communism? | ||
| And capitalism was one of the options. | ||
| As opposed to, oh, so they gave... | ||
| See, now it seemed like the way he phrased it, that it was like... | ||
| Do you like capitalism? | ||
| Or do you like socialism, fascism, or communism as all one question? | ||
| That's a great point, and that is where Alex is presenting this very dishonestly. | ||
| He's lumping together socialism, communism, and fascism because that suits his worldview. | ||
| He does believe that they're all the same thing. | ||
| Basically, one leads to the other, leads to the other. | ||
| Again, two are forms of economic strategy, and one is a form of government. | ||
| In reality, the poll that they did found that 44% of millennials preferred socialism, and 7% preferred communism, 7% fascism. | ||
| I bet those 7% were Nazis. | ||
| I bet they're fun. | ||
| I bet the ones who prefer fascism probably had some very Nazi-leading beliefs. | ||
| Might buy Alex Jones' products. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So now, to the problems with this study. | ||
| The first one, and it's the most glaring problem, is who commissioned the study. | ||
| They clearly have a vested interest in presenting communism and socialism in a negative light, and thus, any data they're involved in producing is suspect. | ||
| They have a vested financial interest in presenting the idea that communism is on the rise, and thus they need more funding to educate the youth. | ||
| Secondly, this was only the second year they've done the study, so there's no good trend data to point to in order to say this is even an increase over past years, or maybe it's fairly normal for youth not to be into capitalism. | ||
| A large number of people I knew in high school in 2000 probably would have been fairly... | ||
| I don't think that's misrepresenting some of the people I knew. | ||
| Well, I mean, capitalism by its very structure fucks over the youth. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I don't have any data to back up what was going on at Hickman High School in 2000 or anything like that. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| But I know a lot of those people were fucking anarchists that I knew. | ||
| Hell yeah! | ||
| They're not into capitalism. | ||
| Third problem, the real concern here should be that 7% of respondents that said they would prefer fascism. | ||
| That should be the headline here. | ||
| Instead of lumping the three numbers together in order to further your paranoid anti-communist talking points. | ||
| So now what we have here is Alex... | ||
| Presenting a study from a year ago reported in multiple conservative outlets as if it were multiple data points when it's just the same data point. | ||
| Just a couple of editorials about the same study that was put out by an organization whose roots go back to unrepentant Nazi apologists who came over to America and started working with the Republican Party. | ||
| And now have gained a lot of favor because of the popular nature of the anti-communist sentiment throughout the 50s into the Reagan era. | ||
| You will just find any reason to undercut a scientific study. | ||
| No, I won't. | ||
| I'm thrilled with scientific studies that don't have this sort of shit involved with them. | ||
| This is bananas. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty crazy. | ||
| And everybody's fucking fine with this. | ||
| I even think that what I'm talking about is kind of a minor part of the story. | ||
| That's bananas! | ||
| Well, the reason that I think that is because... | ||
| Whatever the group was originally, that's not to say that the people who are running the victims of Communism Memorial Foundation now are Nazis or anything like that. | ||
| Just because the group had its roots in that doesn't mean that the ancestors of it, the people running it now, subscribe to the same ideology. | ||
| It could very well be that the people who have come on board just gravitated towards the anti-communist rhetoric and stuff like that. | ||
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| And I'm sure that none of their funding comes from avowed white supremacists whose parents may have started the John Birch Society. | ||
| We can't say. | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| We can't say. | ||
| I can't find any of that information, so I don't know. | ||
| No, of course. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| Well, I'm guessing the rickets probably fucking goddamn. | ||
| My point is just that there could be benign intention on some part. | ||
| Possible. | ||
| But there's an institutional bias that exists in terms of doing the study. | ||
| If you're an anti-communist group and you're doing a what sort of government do you prefer and you get demonizing communism and socialism sort of responses, then that isn't worth reporting in places other than Breitbart, Fox News, that sort of thing. | ||
| Propaganda outlets. | ||
| Yeah, propaganda echo chambers that are already super anti-communist. | ||
| So, there we go. | ||
| That is his first part of his constellation. | ||
| And so we see, like I said already. | ||
| I thought that was the entire constellation. | ||
| Nope, that's one star in the sky. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So far, not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| But I want to see what he's going to try and connect that to. | ||
| Maybe he's got something else working here. | ||
| Now, here's the new article out today out of CNBC. | ||
| Millennials spend less than previous generations because they literally have less money. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| First of all, no shit. | ||
| Secondly, you're connecting that to an article from a year ago. | ||
| Multiple articles about one study from a year ago. | ||
| Not sure why, but let's see. | ||
| And studies show, this just came out, they have lower IQs. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| They can be white, they can be Hispanic. | ||
| They have physically lower IQs. | ||
| Why'd you start with black? | ||
| Physically is not a thing. | ||
| In even passable shape. | ||
| Their metabolic system. | ||
| What about you? | ||
| That's even worse for millennials. | ||
| I'm not saying all millennials are bad. | ||
| This is an average. | ||
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| You know, it's like saying this group of people live the longest. | ||
| It doesn't mean that coastal Japanese all live the longest. | ||
| It means, you know, that... | ||
| What, are you just going to single out the Okinawans? | ||
| This is so critical, folks. | ||
| Millennials spend less than previous generations because they literally have less money. | ||
| And it goes on to report... | ||
| These big studies, they don't want money and they don't care, except they don't like you if you've got it, but they want your money. | ||
| You're like, well, that doesn't make sense. | ||
| Oh, they're what? | ||
| Depending on the study, nine times more likely to say they're giving to charity, but don't. | ||
| Six times more likely to steal. | ||
| What study is that? | ||
| That's an old study that he'd always talk about, but he's repurposing it now because he usually uses those statistics to attack Democrats. | ||
| Because the people on the left are less likely to give to charity, more likely to steal. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| Again, it's another instance. | ||
| We've talked about this in the past. | ||
| It's another instance of poorly done studies that give you the statistics that you want to give when you started the study. | ||
| It's the Thanksgiving argument statistics, where it's like... | ||
| No, if you go back, you can see the budget is, oh yeah, well you've got your statistics, guess what? | ||
| I've got my statistics, and then we're all never going to talk at all. | ||
| Never the twain shall meet. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So the rest of that stuff he's just making up. | ||
| The idea that this study shows they have physically lower IQs and stuff like that. | ||
| Sure, that makes sense. | ||
| The study that he's talking about, I thought for sure he was never going to point out that the article he's reading is from CNBC. | ||
| But it's talking about a study that was put out by the Federal Reserve. | ||
| And I thought he would never bring that up, but he does. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And we'll get into the study here in a little bit, but in true Alex Jones fashion, he gets totally distracted and starts talking about people he doesn't like. | ||
| Anderson Cooper sits on top of reportedly more than $500 billion. | ||
| No, he doesn't. | ||
| He sits on top of that? | ||
| And that's why you hear all day that he... | ||
| Didn't take the robber baron money from the five families he's the only heir of. | ||
| All the other heirs and the rest of the family, they all committed suicide. | ||
| You can go rape this. | ||
| Boy, it's not like that in my family. | ||
| What? | ||
| Because we follow Jesus Christ, see? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We may lay our lives down for somebody. | ||
| I don't understand how that... | ||
| But we're certainly not killing ourselves. | ||
| And see, now you're getting the secret. | ||
| I'm going to come back from breaking it. | ||
| That's the secret? | ||
| This is going to take a couple segments. | ||
| That's the secret. | ||
| We're getting into the real secret. | ||
| The secret. | ||
| That is Anderson Cooper's family is real fucked up. | ||
| Cool, Alex. | ||
| Why are you being a dick about this? | ||
| He literally sits on close to half a trillion dollars. | ||
| You know, the single richest man in the world by far. | ||
| By a factor of, what, five? | ||
| He's a part of the Vanderbilt family. | ||
| It turns out that most of the line of his family, because of how, you know, over generations, there's a widening set of relatives, the line that he's in, the money is already basically gone. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| And when he was younger, his parents cut him out of his inheritance. | ||
| Like, you're not going to get any of the money. | ||
| And that likely was probably, most likely... | ||
| I don't have anything to base this on, but from a lot of the stuff I've read, that was a way of them protecting him from realizing that most of the money was already gone. | ||
| And trying to reinforce on him that he had to make his own way in life. | ||
| And he's talked about it in interviews about how that set him off on a course that made his life all the better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it doesn't hurt to be a Vanderbilt with the social connections that you've already got. | ||
| They're probably priceless. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| But, I mean, what is it? | ||
| Wealth, historically, only extends past three generations, and then it's too diffuse to be really meaningful in any way. | ||
| Generally speaking, unless you completely centralize and never marry and stuff like that. | ||
| As much as we want to imagine that happens all the time in super-rich families, that's kind of a fairy tale. | ||
| In the same way that you had the fucking prince marrying Meghan Markle. | ||
| That happens. | ||
| You just never hear about it because it's not the fucking Prince of England. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, these super rich families, they don't always end up marrying... | ||
| Yeah, a lot of people marry Meghan Markle. | ||
| Like a Vanderbilt doesn't marry a Rockefeller all the time. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| You imagine that's the way it works, and it doesn't always. | ||
| It's not the European royal family circa 1850 or whatever it is. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| Those stories are more appealing to imagine, but... | ||
| Anyway, Alex is just talking shit here. | ||
| So now he gets back to his thesis, I think. | ||
| Which is, the kids are not alright. | ||
| I guess so. | ||
| So imagine this. | ||
| You've got a bunch of communists and socialists and fascists. | ||
| The millennials are asking, like you said, we want authoritarianism because we heard we get some free stuff. | ||
| And we want it now! | ||
| Yeah, for a couple years. | ||
| Then you're Venezuela. | ||
| Because they're good at bullying their parents or bullying somebody in class in front of the professor that's conservative and they get, you know, A pluses. | ||
| I went to college for two years. | ||
| No, you didn't. | ||
| No, you didn't. | ||
| Junior college. | ||
| When I wrote pro-America stuff, I would get a C minus. | ||
| When I wrote horrible globalist garbage, I would get A pluses. | ||
| So I did it as a joke to see that they were discredited. | ||
| Then I just left and then I was immediately successful in everything I touched. | ||
| Because my dad gave me a lot of money. | ||
| Are you going to end with that? | ||
| College is bad for everybody, but it's because my dad gave me a lot of money. | ||
| But I'm digressing. | ||
| Because my dad gave me a lot of money. | ||
| Yeah, and he was instrumental in me getting my first radio show. | ||
| No, Anderson Cooper, all of his wealth is inherited. | ||
| I was a laughingstock on public access TV for a few years. | ||
| $500 billion! | ||
| I failed upwards when my dad got me a job at the radio station by... | ||
| Promising to be my first sponsor. | ||
| And then I met this weird fucking dude who sold gold from Minnesota. | ||
| And he just took me to the stars. | ||
| I went to a real accredited college for two years and dropped out. | ||
| It was definitely not a two-year program that I went to at a community college. | ||
| Which there was nothing wrong with going to be a community college. | ||
| But he didn't graduate from a two-year program. | ||
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He didn't even graduate? | |
| No. | ||
| He dropped out. | ||
| Motherfucker. | ||
| But also this premise that he's suggesting is stupid. | ||
| He was there for... | ||
| Two years! | ||
| It's a two-year program! | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| You're assuming it's an associate's. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| He might also not have been there the whole two years. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| But, like, what he's suggesting there is this idea of, like, I wrote stuff that was based on this lore that I believe, and I got bad grades. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then I used actual sources, globalist nonsense. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And I got good grades, and that proved that they're a joke. | ||
| I left, and I've been successful ever since. | ||
| I read history correctly as a joke! | ||
| It reminds me of that Eminem lyric, stupid as shit, Rich is fucking proud of it. | ||
| That's what I hear there. | ||
| He's trying to hold on to the I'm not stupid part of it, and he really should just own up. | ||
| I'm dumb and I'm rich. | ||
| That would fit better into his ideology, wouldn't it? | ||
| Why would you want to... | ||
| The entire right wing is so stridently anti anybody actually knowing anything. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And as he is, I go with my gut instead of reality. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why wouldn't you just jump in and be like, they call me stupid. | ||
| Not try and fight and pretend that you're like a... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think it's because his dad is a dentist. | ||
| It's a higher degree. | ||
| Also, if his family was around a bunch of John Birch Society assholes, their principle is based on a lot of reading. | ||
| So you do do a lot of reading. | ||
| There is a veneer of intellectualism over it. | ||
| So he was introduced to that stuff when he was younger. | ||
| He has a dad who has a higher level degree. | ||
| I could see there being a real strong desire on his part to hold on to that intellectual... | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, we're at the point now where it's like, is there any intellectual on the right? | ||
| I can't answer that question, much like the president question you asked me earlier. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| So here, in this next clip, we get to Alex, I guess, summing up his thesis. | ||
| And this is where, like I said, I think that things are really disappointing. | ||
| The point he's trying to make is just really disappointing. | ||
| Let me get back here. | ||
| To what's really important. | ||
| Back to reality. | ||
| And that's that I'm telling everyone something you already know. | ||
| Prosperity creates a bunch of decadent slobs. | ||
| The millennials. | ||
| Then those of us that are still producers are attacked and intimidated and bullied. | ||
| But aren't you the decadent slobs? | ||
| Pigs on the animal farm, if you go with George Arwell's allegory, can stay in charge. | ||
| And that's all that's happening here. | ||
| Period. | ||
| This entire system is about intimidating us and making us submit and so everything this system engaged in is a test of breaking our will and ensuring that we will never revolt against what they're doing. | ||
| You're the pigs in Animal Farm! | ||
| Well, I don't know if I want to unpack that too far because really what he's Saying is basically like... | ||
| I think I finally realized what Ayn Rand was talking about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, what he's describing there is just like, I want to go Galt. | ||
| Yeah, pretty much. | ||
| That's what he's doing. | ||
| December 5th, 2018, Alex Jones finally gets on board with Ayn Rand. | ||
| Like, all of these people, they're mad at us because we're the producers. | ||
| And it's, look, we built these trains. | ||
| Now if we leave, they're fucked. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Let's go! | ||
| This is so close to just Atlas Shrugged. | ||
| Dude, just... | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| Just go! | ||
| Just go. | ||
| Please go. | ||
| Just go! | ||
| And him trying to package that as sort of a new revelation based on a constellation of news articles, and that's what he sums it up with, basically just, like, legit galt nonsense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's sad to me. | ||
| It is. | ||
| That's really disappointing. | ||
| It's pathetic. | ||
| Although, in some ways, it would be considered a step up. | ||
| Because, as we recall, I ran... | ||
| From his other dumb sources? | ||
| I ran called the John Birch Society fucking stupid. | ||
| Yeah, childish. | ||
| So for him to, like, go from, like, Well, the John Birch design is fucking crazy. | ||
| Ayn Rand knows where it's at. | ||
| It's like, I guess that's a... | ||
| They're both people you don't want to run into at a party. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| There is a hierarchy between John Birch weirdo and Ayn Rand weirdo. | ||
| It's like a Bulbasaur becoming a Charizard. | ||
| Does that work? | ||
| No. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| No. | ||
| Bulbasaur becomes an Ivysaur. | ||
| Thank you very much, sir. | ||
| That's the reference I would have gone with. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Had I known anything about Pokemon, if I was a fucking nerd. | ||
| Says the guy who was immediately like, uh, well, I don't think it was. | ||
| No, it was Seeger. | ||
| It was Seeger. | ||
| That's not nerdy at all. | ||
| Not knowing if it was Seeger? | ||
| How dare you. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| So... | ||
| Like I said, that's disappointing. | ||
| The idea that that's the conclusion that he's been building towards to some extent is real, real disappointing. | ||
| But then I also told you earlier that I have a theory about where all this is coming from, and I think it plays out in this next clip. | ||
| Did we finish our Constellation? | ||
| No, not yet. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| There's still that other story, but we have to wait until Alex... | ||
| So our Constellation is three stars? | ||
| Two stars. | ||
| Two stars. | ||
| The second star Alex has brought up... | ||
| But he hasn't gotten into the actual study yet. | ||
| Or the article. | ||
| It's not even a fucking study. | ||
| So we have to get to that here in a second. | ||
| So it's not a consolation. | ||
| It's more of a line segment. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| And then you think about what they've been able to do with just the current college generation, the millennials. | ||
| They taught us! | ||
| The people under 30 years old or so? | ||
| 25? | ||
| These individuals in every study love to rob people, love to steal, love to lie, love to tell you how virtuous they are all day, love to not work, love to not save, and love to try to get in gangs and control other people's lives. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| And in national studies, they want communism, they want socialism, they want fascism. | ||
| All they know is they don't like this current system. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because they don't want to work? | ||
| No, because we're poor. | ||
| Remember the other thing that you said? | ||
| They just want to control. | ||
| Because we literally don't have as much money. | ||
| We'll get back to that, because that's the second star in the Constellation. | ||
| But you hear that clip. | ||
| And some people might hear that and just laugh at Alex being stupid, talking about, like, all these millennials want to join gangs. | ||
| Oh, we all do. | ||
| But when I hear that... | ||
| We rob all the time. | ||
| Every study they do says millennials rob all the time. | ||
| But when I hear that, because my fine-tuned Alex radar or whatever, and understanding what he's going through and all that sort of thing... | ||
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Right, right, right, right. | |
| I think he just got updated demographic information, and he's realized... | ||
| Oh, it's all old white people. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| He's doing a whole set piece here on this show about the evils of millennials. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Saying that they all want to join gangs and get together. | ||
| They love to rob people. | ||
| Because he realizes the only people he's got left to scare are old people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Particularly old white people. | ||
| And so he's going with that. | ||
| When I hear him do this over-the-top demonization of millennials, that's all I hear is... | ||
| Wow, you got no young people listening to you. | ||
| That is clever as shit, Dan. | ||
| We're the youngest people who listen to him. | ||
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Yeah, probably. | |
| Probably. | ||
| Early 30s is the youngest people who listen to him. | ||
| Mid 30s. | ||
| Early for you, mid for me, baby! | ||
| Oh yeah, when's your birthday? | ||
| Coming up. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| April. | ||
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| I'm sorry. | ||
| Sometimes, I'll be honest, sometimes with this, listening to a ton of Alex in the past and trying to contextualize what's going on at that point in time, I end up thinking it's March. | ||
| Yeah, of course! | ||
| Yeah, because I'm listening to a ton of March 2009. | ||
| Right, so you're going through time all the... | ||
| A little bit, yeah. | ||
| I was talking to somebody the other day, and we were talking about WWE pay-per-views. | ||
| And, like, they've done two in Saudi Arabia this year. | ||
| This year? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| I thought they had only done the one after the... | ||
| There was the Crown Jewel was the newest one, the Greatest Royal Rumble. | ||
| It was months before that. | ||
| But because I and my brain had been living in March in Alex's world, I was like, they've done two this year and it's only March. | ||
| I was like, no, Dan, it's December. | ||
| Whoa, crazy. | ||
| Really? | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| So, yeah, that level of being in tune with what's going on in Alex's world kind of gives me the ability to look through and cut through the bullshit a little bit. | ||
| No, that's clever as shit, by the way. | ||
| There's no other reason for him to be weirdly attacking millennials or anything. | ||
| He might as well be some hack talking about avocados and stuff like that. | ||
| You know, those articles that were going around. | ||
| When did avocados get on toast? | ||
| It's these millennials! | ||
| That's sort of nonsense. | ||
| I remember back when I was a kid, we had... | ||
| I just think that's a level of mainstream hackery that I think Alex would buck back against. | ||
| So when I hear him demonizing millennials, I know there's something behind it. | ||
| If I had to bet everything I own, I would bet it on he just recently found out that when he got off YouTube... | ||
| There are no longer anyone who are young, or a precipitous drop in youth listening to his show. | ||
| Well, because he's on the fucking radio. | ||
| Well, there's radio, and you have to go to his website in order to watch his show, or the Genesis Communications website. | ||
| To find his podcast. | ||
| Young people go to the Genesis Communications website all the time. | ||
| Oh yeah, that place that sells prostate medication. | ||
| We are always there. | ||
| Every day I go to the Millennial Hangout, which is what would you... | ||
| Wherever it is we go to rob people. | ||
| I say the Walmart. | ||
| We all gather in the Walmart parking lot and we're like, before we go rob 8 to 12 people, because that's our favorite thing to do, let's check out and see what the Genesis Communications Network website has up as far as specials that we can get at this Walmart. | ||
| After we rob people. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
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Gotcha. | |
| So, here we go. | ||
| Alex finally gets into that second star in the constellation, the article about millennials not buying stuff because they're poor. | ||
| Again, still not a constellation. | ||
| I understand that, but it is a constellation if Alex is pretending that those three headlines that he read were about a different thing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He never makes it clear that they're all about the exact same thing. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It's one data point, but he's presenting it as a multitude. | ||
| And in that case, you can kind of see his deceitful version. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| He's trying to create Gemini. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So here is Alex trying to read from that other article about the second. | ||
| Trying to read. | ||
| The majority of millennials would prefer to live in a socialist, communist, or fascist nation rather than a capitalist one, according to New National Poll. | ||
| That's the first one from a year ago. | ||
| Here's the second one. | ||
| Here's another one. | ||
| Millennials spend less than previous generations because they literally have less money. | ||
| You did it! | ||
| In recent years, slow home construction, oh yeah, right? | ||
| Declining new car sales and the poor performance of brick-and-mortar retailers have all been blamed on the unique taste and preferences of those born between 81 and 97. That means millennials have been accused of killing everything from canned tuna to the suburbs. | ||
| And then it just goes on to say the Federal Reserve study just shows they're poor, they got low IQs, and they're basically idiots. | ||
| Well, yeah, you think they grow up in this country of incredible opportunity and they hate it? | ||
| And they think Venezuela or North Korea would be better? | ||
| And they want to bring in radical Islamists that are opposed to their leftist ideology all because they hate America even more than they do? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Alex made it through a paragraph. | ||
| of that before he just gave up and started editorializing. | ||
| So one thing that's important to point out is that article, nor the study it's talking about, says that millennials are poor and stupid. | ||
| That's just Alex making stuff up. | ||
| The article discusses the societal impacts that have led to millennials being desperately poor as a cross-section of the population. | ||
| The very paragraph Alex stops reading at says, quote, Actually, though, millennial habits are not so different from that of previous generations. | ||
| Once the effects of age, income, and a wide range of demographic characteristics are taken into account, according to a new paper by the Federal Reserve. | ||
| The article points out also that it points out what the source is of why they have less money. | ||
| Quote, Me! | ||
| annual deductible for employer-sponsored health care plans was $1,505 in 2017 compared to Me! | ||
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| Me! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The article very specifically says the opposite of calling millennials dumb. | ||
| Quote, Millennials are also more racially diverse and more educated than previous generations. | ||
| As is always the case. | ||
| Yeah, actually it does even point that out. | ||
| The next generation is always more educated than the previous generation. | ||
| That has nothing to do with generations. | ||
| We have education. | ||
| They have access to more information and shit. | ||
| The article points out very specifically that those things are interesting phenomena. | ||
| Not phenomena, but it's interesting characteristics that you can say about millennials. | ||
| They're more educated, that sort of thing. | ||
| But if you look at... | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Yeah, so it even points that out. | ||
| If you go and consult the Federal Reserve paper that this is based on, you'll find that it's not a study about millennials being poor or stupid at all. | ||
| It's about their spending patterns. | ||
| The title of the paper is, quote, Are Millennials Different? | ||
| The answer they came to was no. | ||
| But entering the job market in 2007 to 2009 probably crippled them. | ||
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| That is what the article is discussing. | ||
| That too is me. | ||
| But that's what it's discussing. | ||
| Alex clearly hasn't read this. | ||
| He's just making shit up. | ||
| He's like, oh yeah, they're poor. | ||
| Also, they're stupid. | ||
| Fuck them. | ||
| It's a bad, bad consolation he's making right here. | ||
| Right. | ||
| A year-old study from an anti-communist propaganda outlet about how more youths like socialism, communism, and fascism, but when you really break it down, it's pretty much all socialism, and the very small groups that like communism and fascism, but will lump them all together. | ||
| Who we should all be concerned about. | ||
| Will lump them all together for optic purposes. | ||
| That's one part of the constellation. | ||
| The other part is just Alex lying about the Federal Reserve putting out a study that's covered in the media about... | ||
| How millennials don't have fucking money, and the reasons for it are very clear if you look at trends. | ||
| It's brutal! | ||
| Why aren't they blaming their... | ||
| Okay, so if we're going to do this whole baby boomers are... | ||
| Let's do the generation thing. | ||
| If you're going to pull this like, oh, the generations are the younger, stupid, and poor, and all of this shit. | ||
| Why aren't you then talking about your own fucking parents who were stupid and poor and all that shit because of the machinations of the very ideology of capitalism that you pretend is what's going to save us? | ||
| The whole thing is fucked up. | ||
| Creeping... | ||
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These are... | |
| Creeping communism, Jordan. | ||
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God! | |
| Creeping communism. | ||
| God, they're so fucking stupid. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| They're dumb! | ||
| You just don't see the constellation. | ||
| They just don't want to realize shit. | ||
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No, no, no, no. | |
| They don't want to step up and realize that when they came of age, there was a massive social economic growth that came about due to socialistic fucking policies set down in the early to mid-1930s, which... | ||
| Fucking forebears fought hard as fuck against, and yet when they were enacted, that gave them the opportunities that when they finally got power, they fucked everybody else over, and now they're mad at us like it's our fucking fault, while at the same time bitching about parenting and then absolving themselves of all the fucking guilt for it. | ||
| If you want to bitch about parenting and then complain about our generation, look at your own fucking selves! | ||
| Jordan, I got a question for you. | ||
| God, they're stupid! | ||
| I'm so furious! | ||
| Are you an astronomer? | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| Nah, you're not, because you sure as shit don't know anything about constellations. | ||
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All right. | |
| News! | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| There's trends behind it, buddy. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Well, then I apologize. | ||
| What does Salenti have to say? | ||
| Can he forecast the trends on this one? | ||
| No, Salenti is MIA in terms of being on this episode. | ||
| Yeah, he's already got his bug out back, taken care of. | ||
| I think he's in the clear. | ||
| I don't think he's involved in any of this. | ||
| He was just skimming. | ||
| He was just a fun little guy. | ||
| He's one of the things that eat up. | ||
| He's part of the Alex Jones whack pack. | ||
| He's not going down if everyone gets fired or anything like that. | ||
| He made some money along the way. | ||
| So you don't understand the Constellation effect. | ||
| You have a story from a year ago. | ||
| I really don't think that there's an effect. | ||
| You have a story from a year ago that you're misrepresenting. | ||
| And you have a story from present day that you're also misrepresenting, but they kind of appear to be related. | ||
| The first one is the millennials like socialism. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The new one is millennials have no money. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, if you're dumb, you can put it in your head together and be like, they don't have any money. | ||
| That's why they want socialism, because they want to take my things, because I'm a producer and I need to go galt. | ||
| That's all the thought process that this is. | ||
| Really? | ||
| This is very elementary stuff. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| It seems like there's a far simpler Occam's razor to this, where it's like, the system that has ensured that we don't have any money... | ||
| Because then you have to bite the hand that feeds you. | ||
| ...is the wrong system for us, and so we don't want it. | ||
| But if you're too deeply entrenched and your entire life has been just sort of animated to a certain extent by... | ||
| You know, you're a kid of a liberal and you just grow up liberal and you never question your own beliefs and that sort of thing. | ||
| You go to your brainwashing centers at college, you're cloistered liberal bubbles and you come out and you try and take down us patriots or whatever. | ||
| You grew up in a family that was deeply... | ||
| Adjacent, at least, to the John Birch Society. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Your entire life has just been inculcated with anti-communist propaganda. | ||
| You've never questioned your beliefs. | ||
| And now you are one of the most popular and famous purveyors of anti-communist propaganda. | ||
| He is the definition of... | ||
| He would complain about liberals being, or the offspring of unquestioning your parents' politics. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's a problem that we have come up against many a time, which is, boy, they sure do seem to project a lot of themselves. | ||
| But it's the same fucking shit as... | ||
| As so many of these colonialist monsters who are like, oh, there's going to be violence in the streets and all of this shit because of all the stuff we're doing to them. | ||
| Which is really what you're saying is like, if anybody did this shit to me, I'd burn everything to the fucking ground. | ||
| You're projecting all of your worst tendencies onto people who are trying to make it better for everyone, and that includes you, you stupid motherfuckers! | ||
| By unfortunate side effect, in order for our lives to get better, yours will have to. | ||
| We can't do it the other way around. | ||
| Nor would we want to. | ||
| No! | ||
| Sometimes we would want to, but we wouldn't. | ||
| So, look, Alex is shitting on the millennials pretty hard, but there's a bright spot. | ||
| Well, we have it coming. | ||
| There's a bright spot. | ||
| We're robbing too much. | ||
| There's a bright spot. | ||
| They're not the only generation. | ||
| And that leads us, in summation, to the other news. | ||
| Because you already know about the millennials and that this is the one group the globalists were really able to hypnotize and get control of. | ||
| Generation Z is the opposite because they're under such millennial henpecking and the rest of it that they actually have that instinct to rebel which God put in us for just such times as that. | ||
| Thanks, God. | ||
| The article talks about Generation Z having less. | ||
| Less interest in socialism, per se. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because they're nine? | ||
| It also goes on to point out they haven't entered the job force, and none of them have student debt yet. | ||
| So it points out there's some reasons they haven't tasted the real world yet, and many are in high school. | ||
| And so, I don't know. | ||
| So often that was the refrain from when I was growing up. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Oh, well, you haven't even seen the real world yet, so all your liberal ideas are going to be washed away. | ||
| The old, like, oh, if you're not a liberal at 20, that whole thing. | ||
| And then it's like we all got into the real world and we're like, no, you guys fucked this up. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've made no secret about this. | ||
| My parents died in the world of liberals and stuff like that. | ||
| I questioned things throughout college. | ||
| I dabbled in a little bit of the ideas of fiscal conservatism. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Like, not going as far as to ever really join up with any fucking libertarian groups, but boy, were they around. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| I explored those ideas, and I found them to be lacking, and the end result of it was a questioning, an exploring, and then a going further left than my parents. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So, yeah, I guess, I don't know. | ||
| I do think so much liberal bashing is a subconscious recognition from the baby boomers that their generation has literally destroyed the world. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| And I would love to say that as like a... | ||
| Oh, he's using literally the way that we use figuratively, but we, in common... | ||
| Parlance. | ||
| Parlance. | ||
| Use it as literally, but now it's literally. | ||
| Nomenclature. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| We have 12 years before climate change is irreversible, or not even irreversible, incapable of not spiraling out of control. | ||
| And they have to know on some level, it's their fault. | ||
| Well, they believe in anti-communist propagandists. | ||
| I mean, you don't want to think that you're the reason your kids are going to die young, but it's your fault. | ||
| Get used to it, old fucks! | ||
| That's my advice. | ||
| You killed us all! | ||
| Get used to it, assholes! | ||
| I think beyond that, even there's maybe a kernel of subconscious guilt of the idea of, like... | ||
| What we were doing was maximizing what we could have. | ||
| And probably a lot of people didn't understand the ramifications or consequences that would come down the line from that behavior. | ||
| Couldn't possibly. | ||
| So it's not necessarily all people who had ill will and malicious intentions. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| I think there's probably a, you know, the same sort of feeling you get when you buy something too expensive and you realize you can't pay rent or something like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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You know, you take a trip and then you realize. | |
| I mean, the idea of an entire country planning 30 years ahead is... | ||
| Bananas, right? | ||
| Yeah, it'd be hard. | ||
| Like, that's insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, there's a lot of news. | ||
| I've heard. | ||
| Roger is going to show up later in the episode and be boring about the news. | ||
| But... | ||
| So are they not going to touch on HW at all? | ||
| Well, see, that's also in the news. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Alex does touch on it a little bit. | ||
| In this next clip, he celebrates HW's death. | ||
| So finally something we can agree on! | ||
| Well, and then he kind of fucks it up a little bit as he starts rambling. | ||
| You see this burial of George Edward Walker Bush. | ||
| It is symbolic. | ||
| It is emblematic. | ||
| It is archetypal. | ||
| It is a ritual of the burying of the Clintons. | ||
| The burying of the globalists. | ||
| This year has been amazing. | ||
| David Rockefeller, dead. | ||
| Sebastian Brzezinski, dead. | ||
| Hell yeah! | ||
| Edward Walker Bush, dead. | ||
| Hell yeah! | ||
| And a bunch of others, dead, dead, dead, dead. | ||
| So I think it's kind of ugly to celebrate your enemy's deaths and what have you, but I don't want to get into that conversation because it doesn't go anywhere and it's pointless. | ||
| To say that a funeral is a ritual is trite to some extent because it is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And he does this thing where he's sort of relishing in the image of George W. Bush waving goodbye to the hearse. | ||
| And I'm like, look, I understand. | ||
| These people are monsters and all that. | ||
| But go fuck yourself insulting that moment. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I'm not defending W or HW at all. | ||
| They both did horrible, horrible things to the world. | ||
| But when you are sort of insulting the idea of a son in the funeral of their father, that is inhuman to some extent. | ||
| I understand the... | ||
| Larger issues of how many people lost their children or fathers because of their policies. | ||
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Of course. | |
| And that's very valid. | ||
| It's not the same conversation. | ||
| The fact that they did evil things doesn't negate the pain of losing your dad. | ||
| And mocking that is never okay to me. | ||
| And Alex relishes in that a ton. | ||
| I want to be a dick and disagree with you, but I agree. | ||
| The other point is he's saying it's been a great year, and then he celebrates all these people's deaths. | ||
| David Rockefeller died on March 20th, 2017. | ||
| So that was last year. | ||
| It's been a great year. | ||
| It's been a great year. | ||
| That was last year. | ||
| It's been fantastic. | ||
| It's March now, right? | ||
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Ugh. | |
| Ah. | ||
| Uhhhhhh. | ||
| That would be... | ||
| A way more fun Oscars ceremony if everybody was like, yeah, fuck that guy! | ||
| Whenever they showed the people we lost this year memorial. | ||
| I understand Alex wants to dance around because H.W. died. | ||
| We don't have a ton of clips of that because who cares? | ||
| He's just scoring points wherever he can get them. | ||
| And I know you agree with him, and I'm not here to defend H.W., so what's the point? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| But... | ||
| When you're saying it's been a great year, all these globalists have died, and they were last year, I feel like you might not have a handle on what you're talking about. | ||
| No, that's absolutely true. | ||
| When he should. | ||
| They're his big bad guys. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, I've been spending the day with this, H.W.'s death, because of course, as you know, my delight in the great monsters of history dying is an unending font. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But the only thing that I think about right now in regards to H.W.'s death has nothing to do with him. | ||
| It is... | ||
| I believe it's... | ||
| I think it's E.J. Bradford? | ||
| The guy who was straight-up murdered by the cops who suspected him of being the shooter in Alabama or whatever it was. | ||
| Straight-up murdered. | ||
| And... | ||
| Everyone... | ||
| No, absolutely not everyone. | ||
| A vocal minority of people are protesting to get that video out to try and make sure that somebody is held accountable for the cops murdering this man. | ||
| And you can read online so many, like, how dare they talk about this guy and this guy was a criminal and all of this shit. | ||
| And he's dead. | ||
| And then you listen to the... | ||
| Glowing non-stop eulogies for HW. | ||
| No, sure. | ||
| I don't give a fuck about HW. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| I am furious at that. | ||
| No, it's awful. | ||
| It's awful. | ||
| And that juxtaposition points out what is wrong with the way we deal with societal issues. | ||
| Don't speak ill of the dead. | ||
| Unless the dead was black. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Yeah, that is awful. | ||
| And that's a societal problem that we have to deal with. | ||
| And I'm not taking anything away from that, but I think if any time a president dies, a former president dies, and you want to be like, why is everyone covering this? | ||
| He was a bad guy. | ||
| You're having the wrong fucking conversation. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I agree with you 100%. | ||
| The glowing reviews of him that come from people who are aligned with his political bent, of course those are going to fucking happen. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| The fair critiques of him that come out after his death and everyone's like, oh, it's too soon. | ||
| That response is going to happen, but of course the people who are making the critiques are fine too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's all fucking stupid. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And the greater point of mocking mourning is shitty, no matter where it happens. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| And it's the same thing with Alex Jones on his show. | ||
| When people are putting bouquets of flowers at where Michael Brown died in Ferguson. | ||
| And being like, this guy was a bad guy. | ||
| Why are they celebrating his death? | ||
| I feel the same way about hearing that rhetoric as I do hearing Alex mocking... | ||
| Waving goodbye to your dad's hearse. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm walking this fine line because I'm not defending them as like, oh, they still have feelings or anything like that. | ||
| It's just, fuck off. | ||
| No, I was hoping that you would say you were proud of me. | ||
| For what? | ||
| Because I agree with you. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because I wasn't a bloodthirsty asshole I tend to be. | ||
| That's only because I preempted that with explaining my position, I think. | ||
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Wrong! | |
| Otherwise, you were going to fucking scream. | ||
| No. | ||
| I've actually been thinking about that. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Dan, Dan, I don't know if we can ever truly trust each other after this. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, look, I don't know if I'm proud of you. | ||
| But I will say... | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Mothers need to be proud of your boys! | ||
| Kick them off their knees. | ||
| So, the Proud Boys... | ||
| You don't get no love at six... | ||
| Oh, no, you're not bringing up the Proud Boys. | ||
| Oh, the Proud Boys come up. | ||
| Don't bring up the Proud Boys. | ||
| The Proud Boys do come up. | ||
| Proud Boys! | ||
| So, Alex brings up the Proud Boys, because much like Generation Z and the death of his enemies, Alex takes a little bit of time on this episode to celebrate them. | ||
| And misrepresent what they are, what they do, and what they stand for. | ||
| But it's going to be hard to listen to because he's so full of shit. | ||
| But if you make it through that desert, there's an oasis at the end where we realize Alex is just talking about himself. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| So this clip will be not fun to listen to him defend the Proud Boys, but it turns funny in the middle. | ||
| Remember the Proud Boys. | ||
| They're the folks who are inclusive. | ||
| They're inclusive. | ||
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Race, religion, sexuality, classical liberal, white, straight, male. | |
| They believe in free speech at these universities. | ||
| Four white men. | ||
| Antifa hitting women in the head with bike locks and stabbing people and firebombing and the rest of it. | ||
| And saw the police stand down and leftist-controlled hellholes like Berkeley and Portland. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| They also love cereal. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| The podcast? | ||
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Nope. | |
| And so you heard about a month ago. | ||
| That they got listed as a domestic extremist group by the FBI. | ||
| They are. | ||
| And then they got removed off of Twitter and all these other places. | ||
| And the FBI came out today and said, we never did that. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| What he's talking about is that they were saying they aren't going to try them as like terrorists. | ||
| Gang members, yeah. | ||
| That's different than saying that the group isn't recognized as a hate organization. | ||
| Which they should. | ||
| And that's the big story I haven't gotten to yet because we're going to have to file lawsuits over it. | ||
| The FBI, Trump didn't do this. | ||
| Reality winner type folks inside the government. | ||
| Remember, she was the anti-fub. | ||
| Yes, the hero. | ||
| Al-Qaeda, white-hating blonde girl. | ||
| Yes, reality winner, the hero. | ||
| Who had a high-level security clearance. | ||
| Who was the hero? | ||
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She gave information to ISIS. | |
| She gave information to ISIS. | ||
| She did not give information. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Somebody at InfraGard infrastructure level, at CEO level in these companies. | ||
| Put in my banking record for Infowars that we are a certified terror group like Hezbollah. | ||
| You are. | ||
| Now, this is going to be a huge deal when it all comes out. | ||
| No, it won't. | ||
| We have the documents, but we're... | ||
| You always have the documents. | ||
| This stuff's classified. | ||
| It's classified. | ||
| But you wonder why we had our banking taken away. | ||
| The plan is to do it to all of you. | ||
| They just gave Tim Cook an award two days ago for banning me off the internet, and the ADL said this is the model. | ||
| So Hitler took Jews right to Congress. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| We jumped there quick! | ||
| Now the ADL is literally trying to put me in a digital ghetto. | ||
| The Anti-Defamation League. | ||
| Like Hitler did the Jews. | ||
| It's like Hitler. | ||
| The ADL supports Soros, the ones who overthrow Israel now. | ||
| The ADL is now an anti-Jew, anti-Israeli, anti-Israeli state group. | ||
| And I'm not just saying that. | ||
| They are. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's interesting on this episode where we have the Ukrainian nationalists who came over with these captive nation committees who were unrepentant Nazi apologists. | ||
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Come on. | |
| Hey. | ||
| Alex still has got to get... | ||
| On the episode where he is... | ||
| Disseminating information that comes from the groups that they founded, he's still got to pretend that Soros is a Nazi collaborator when that's all bullshit. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I also don't believe this story. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| I don't believe at all. | ||
| And if he does produce documentation that some classified CEO-level person put on his bank, because he does still have banking. | ||
| If he didn't, then why would he sell anything? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, why would he have... | ||
| He's got a 12 days of Christmas sale going on right now. | ||
| How many days until Christmas? | ||
| More than 12. But he has, like, this sale that's just an extension of the past sale. | ||
| 50-70% off everything so we can get it out of the fucking warehouse. | ||
| Free shipping on everything. | ||
| It's Easter soon! | ||
| And we'll give you a shirt along with every purchase. | ||
| They're gonna give us a shirt? | ||
| Yeah, and it's a shirt that... | ||
| Well, that's a deal that's too good to pass up, Dan! | ||
| It's a shirt that says, we are all Alex Jones. | ||
| Don't censor me. | ||
| Like, oh, God. | ||
| Why would you ever wear that fucking shirt? | ||
| It sounds horrible. | ||
| 30 years from now, that shirt is going to be in a goodwill, and we're both going to buy it and wear it, and it's going to be a delight. | ||
| So there's no chance that his banking is cut off. | ||
| Otherwise, there would be no reason to sell anything. | ||
| Like, stop sending me money. | ||
| I don't have a bank account. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| This is all nonsense. | ||
| Deutsche Bank is fine with him. | ||
| Also, I mean, just to his dumb point, Fair. | ||
| The Guardian had an article out today discussing how fucking the police were and are specifically targeting Antifa protesters for prosecution. | ||
| The ones who were stabbed by the other guys and they did not charge anybody. | ||
| But like five dudes who... | ||
| With nothing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, no, let's never forget that even, and this is in California, even in the most liberal place, the police are an arm of the white nationalist fucking fascist goddamn bullshit we have now. | ||
| And if you, like, I believe it was Vic Berger put together a syncing up of the New York incident after McGinnis' speech. | ||
| And if you look at the footage matched up, it's clear that the Proud Boys charged the other people before they threw something at them. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Whereas the police video, all you can see is a static shot, and somebody throws something, and then the Proud Boys come in and start beating them up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if you look at it from another angle... | ||
| They very clearly start charging and say, let's go, boys, before the person throws something at the people charging them. | ||
| And there's another video that I saw recently that was some Proud Boy guy out there videotaping. | ||
| He's like, I'm an independent journalist. | ||
| Some guy comes over and is like, fuck you. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| And then dude hits him. | ||
| And then the police come, take the... | ||
| Quote-unquote journalist away. | ||
| And he's like, he came up and got hit, man, so I pushed him. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You hit him first, you asshole. | ||
| And that happens over and over and over and over again. | ||
| You hear the story perpetuated and repeated through right-wing circles of these left Antifa, leftist demonstrators are the ones who are agitating and hitting people with stuff. | ||
| So violent and robbing people all the time. | ||
| And then what you hear later is the stories that those outlets aren't putting out of like, Oh, this guy just shot a gun into a crowd. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| This guy shot a gun into the ground. | ||
| Or, oh, hey, this guy goes by a based stick man. | ||
| He got his nickname because he hit people with sticks. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And he snuck into protests. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But we're not going to charge him with a crime. | ||
| You can't prove he did anything. | ||
| All these people collaborated beforehand in these sort of... | ||
| Vaguely secretive message boards and stuff about how they were going to sneak weapons into protests. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's like, come on. | ||
| So these groups of people were radicalized, organized themselves online, and then went to a large gathering of people, even though they were the minority. | ||
| With intent to use violence in order to cause terror in those communities. | ||
| Oh, and the charismatic... | ||
| In order to influence the political outcome. | ||
| There's some word for that. | ||
| And the charismatic leader of their group, i.e. | ||
| Gavin McGinnis, has a radio show where he would constantly talk about it's time to get violent. | ||
| Like, let's get into fights. | ||
| Let's just kick some asses. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| It's like, what do you expect? | ||
| You think that dumb fucks... | ||
| Millennials, who you hate, Alex, who are listening to this sort of rhetoric from a charismatic, I guess some people think he's funny, guy. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Seems weird. | ||
| Like, this charismatic frontman of this violent street gang that he's created, being like, oh, it's time for us to get into fights. | ||
| You think they aren't going to then instigate those fights? | ||
| No, come on. | ||
| No, it's Antifa. | ||
| It's all about self-defense. | ||
| It's Antifa. | ||
| It's teaching themselves to protect against those people who are against fascism. | ||
| Yep, they're very dangerous if you're a fascist. | ||
| If you're against fascism... | ||
| They're anti-that. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So, look. | ||
| Spoiler alert. | ||
| A little bit later in the episode, he's going to have a couple people he thinks are Proud Boys on the show. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| One of them is a Proud Boy. | ||
| It's Rufio Pan Man, who got that name because he would hit people with pans. | ||
| I thought it was because he was fucking dope in the movie Hook. | ||
| That is where Rufio comes from, but the pan man comes from he'd hit people with pants. | ||
| Man, it's stunning how uncreative these guys really are. | ||
| You get your identity from a meme, basically. | ||
| Yeah, these guys are really not creative. | ||
| The other person, Alex, is presenting as a proud boy, but he immediately, as soon as he gets on the show, is like, I'm not a proud boy. | ||
| Noted historian Barbara Tuckman. | ||
| He's just like, I'm in between. | ||
| I support the Proud Boys, but I'm not a part of them. | ||
| His name is Maga Titan. | ||
| We'll get into him in a little bit. | ||
| Titan's still lost. | ||
| They show up and have a very disappointing interview. | ||
| But before we get to that, Alex has something really fucking... | ||
| This exposes a lot. | ||
| This next clip. | ||
| It actually exposes two things. | ||
| One, a bad premise. | ||
| And then second, Alex saying something... | ||
| He definitely shouldn't have. | ||
| What if they make the entire plane out of the black box? | ||
| You have the successful conversion. | ||
| Some long pauses here, guys. | ||
| Of a large portion of people. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Here comes another one. | ||
| Say 35 to about 15. That doesn't mean everybody in that group. | ||
| We're not group thinkers. | ||
| This is the average. | ||
| This is how the establishment sees you. | ||
| Do you mean 15 to 35 in age? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's the bad premise there. | ||
| They look at you and they think of you as a group. | ||
| I don't look at group thinking. | ||
| I don't look at you as a group. | ||
| That's how the establishment looks at you. | ||
| Bad premise. | ||
| Important to hold on to for a later clip. | ||
| That literally believe in authoritarianism because they think they get something free. | ||
| He means literally figuratively. | ||
| When authoritarianism comes in, they'll be begging people like me to work for them. | ||
| They'll be shooting you in the back of the head or putting you in a work camp. | ||
| You're so stupid. | ||
| You're so stupid. | ||
| You should never have said that on air. | ||
| If real authoritarianism came around, they'd be begging me to work for them. | ||
| Huh, maybe they would insinuate themselves in your company as your second-hand man. | ||
| Maybe try and get you to support their very clearly authoritarian-leaning presidential candidate who they've been trying to get into office for a very long time, but probably couldn't get there without... | ||
| Real handy, like, propaganda. | ||
| A propaganda outlet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or multiple propaganda outlets. | ||
| They really gin up the sort of populist, in quotes, but really just sort of... | ||
| Well, yeah, and you would want to present it as being, like, above partisanship. | ||
| Certainly, you would love to hire somebody who had that sort of veneer, that sort of presentation. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Real attempted authoritarianism is happening in front of our very eyes. | ||
| And they got... | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| They did try to hire Alex Jones and were successful. | ||
| That is a crazy clip. | ||
| That is a weird thing to say. | ||
| That's a fucking crazy thing for him to say. | ||
| If authoritarians came, they would be begging me to hire them, and I know that 100% because they did, and I do! | ||
| That's like, and he's bragging and laughing about it without, like, sort of recognizing that, like... | ||
| That really does track with my last couple years of life. | ||
| I got on air as soon as this one dude was running for president and said he's mobbed up and nobody should fucking trust him because he's connected to consortiums on the East Coast and he's a fucking liar and a piece of shit. | ||
| I have deep sources on that. | ||
| Flash forward a couple months. | ||
| I've been talking to this one guy who used to be his campaigned head. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Who is now left because he can be more effective in other places. | ||
| And he thinks, I'm really awesome. | ||
| Like recruiting propaganda outlets. | ||
| And becoming insinuated into them to the point where they kind of run them. | ||
| We've mentioned this before, but seriously, in the past six months, there has never been... | ||
| So many times where you listen to Alex talk and you're like, oh, there's a tiny... | ||
| There's some good angel that's trying to escape from your mouth from time to time. | ||
| It's just like, tell the truth! | ||
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Ah! | |
| Oh, no, it's the other guys! | ||
| Tell the truth! | ||
| Oh, no, it's the other guys who are doing it! | ||
| I think that's the easiest way to look at it. | ||
| I think more that it's just like, Alex kind of gets what his place in this whole thing is. | ||
| And he's... | ||
| He's trying to express, like, I'm not that fucking stupid. | ||
| I get what's going on, but I'm going to present it. | ||
| I don't know what I'm saying, but I don't know. | ||
| You think this is almost his kind of very obvious wink to Roger Stone? | ||
| I think there might be some play going on, maybe a little bit, because I see him still just doing what he does. | ||
| Meanwhile, all his friends are in Fucking trouble. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, Roger is probably... | ||
| Well, so is he. | ||
| He's gonna be broke. | ||
| I don't think so, because I still think he's getting money from dark sources. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I don't think any of this matters. | ||
| Like, the clearing out the warehouse is obviously in order to, like, cement the deal. | ||
| Put Koch brothers' money into it. | ||
| No, it's to cement the deal with Jeunesse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then whatever, however that works is how that works. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| What I do know is Corsi is in deep... | ||
| Deep water. | ||
| Right now. | ||
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Nah. | |
| He's not a good swimmer. | ||
| Nah, he'll be fine. | ||
| He's so clever. | ||
| Roger is coming up to about where he has very few moves left on the board. | ||
| Bug out bag. | ||
| Carry it with you at all times. | ||
| Plane tickets. | ||
| Alex doesn't seem to be concerned by any of this. | ||
| And when I say he doesn't seem to be concerned, I don't mean like he's ignoring it and just like... | ||
| No, yeah. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| He called... | ||
| Corsi a weasel on the other show. | ||
| You're absolutely right. | ||
| And seems to be confused. | ||
| I think that there's a decent chance that he has been manipulated this whole time. | ||
| Corsi? | ||
| No, Alex. | ||
| I think that there's a possibility that he's not dirty in all this. | ||
| Yeah, no, no, no. | ||
| He's a fucking idiot. | ||
| No! | ||
| On our stupid V evil continuum, as more and more pieces fall and Alex seems to be unaffected, you're like... | ||
| Oh, maybe you were just stupid the whole time! | ||
| And especially as shit gets real. | ||
| It's one thing to do your obfuscating nonsense when there is just kernels of information out there. | ||
| To do the exact same thing and not change your strategy when... | ||
| That Flynn memo should really freak people out. | ||
| Especially people like Alex who have been presenting the idea that Flynn... | ||
| Was a super patriot who was instrumental in the deal against Obama involving Russia and all this stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think the fact that Alex knows that he said all those things and that Flynn is very clearly cooperating in a serious way with Mueller's investigation. | ||
| To the point where they're like, eh, let him go. | ||
| Yeah, he doesn't need to do any jail time. | ||
| Yeah, hey, this dude. | ||
| He's a good dude. | ||
| Get him out of here. | ||
| That means to me either Alex thinks that Mueller is stupid and that he has successfully lied to, Flynn has lied to them and hoodwinked them all. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or, on some level, Alex realizes, I'm in the clear. | ||
| I was just getting information from liars and then repeating it. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| I wasn't doing anything illegal. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Fucking shitheads were telling me things, and I made a radio show out of it. | ||
| Yeah, I'm three degrees away from the crime, man. | ||
| That's not illegal. | ||
| No, I'm fine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I think that there's a freedom for Alex that probably these other people don't have. | ||
| And I think that plays into the Roger Stone interview that he has. | ||
| We're not going to listen to that. | ||
| There's nothing worthwhile. | ||
| Roger should be... | ||
| He's in all the news. | ||
| On the 5th, he's in so many news stories. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And so Alex having access to him, it should be like a cornucopia of Roger Stone being like, hey, Adam Schiff, go fuck yourself. | ||
| Like they did a year and a half ago. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Instead, the interview is all just like talking about him pleading the 5th. | ||
| His position on it, I actually think that this is fairly accurate, based on Infowars at least. | ||
| He's like, this isn't news. | ||
| I said I was going to plead the 5th before. | ||
| That is accurate. | ||
| He has said that on Infowars. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Well, then we're good. | ||
| So there is a chance that people are misreporting it. | ||
| It's just that nobody but us is listening. | ||
| There's a chance that the media is misreporting it as something that he's said before. | ||
| I'm fine with that, his position on it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And when Alex wants him to talk about Flynn and that memo, the Mueller memo that came out, he's like, there's a lot of stuff that's redacted in there. | ||
| We really don't know what's going on, and I don't want to talk about it until there's more information. | ||
| However, I am buying a new plane ticket every single day on the off chance. | ||
| That's not something that matches the propaganda game they've been playing all along. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's Roger being super cautious with his language. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Alex is trying to get him to be old school Roger. | ||
| And he's not playing ball. | ||
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Right. | |
| Well, just the clip that you did play of him being like, yeah, I got it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You're not coming to Florida. | ||
| Past this bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The reason you're coming is because we need a big spectacle because I need more money. | ||
| I am fucked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I told you in that last clip there was a... | ||
| There's a proud boy coming. | ||
| Well, no, not that. | ||
| But I told you that there was a bad premise. | ||
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| And that is that he's saying, these millennials, we don't think anybody in groups, we're not into groups. | ||
| That's what the establishment does. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| So then immediately after this, he starts to put people into groups. | ||
| You're just like the Palestinians. | ||
| They won't take one Palestinian in Saudi Arabia or Jordan or Egypt. | ||
| Group one. | ||
| Palestinian just means an Arab that wants to take over some free land. | ||
| That's not how that works, but fine. | ||
| It's a constant political group that wants to overthrow everybody. | ||
| And that's what millennials are. | ||
| They're just a bunch of angry, pissed off, stupid people that want to take everything over. | ||
| So yeah, he's like, I don't put people into groups, and then it proceeds to fucking... | ||
| Two groups. | ||
| Yeah, real hard. | ||
| Well, I mean, I suppose if we want to add the countries in there, it's about five groups that he's generalizing very quickly. | ||
| Two most specifically. | ||
| So now, that argument that he's making in that clip that these Arab countries won't take in Palestinians is fucking stupid. | ||
| I would rebut that, but he says worse things in this next clip, and I'll do it after this. | ||
| Okay, that's nice of you. | ||
| Do any of the other Arab states take in Palestinians? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| What? | ||
| You don't have any history. | ||
| You don't have any facts. | ||
| You didn't do any research. | ||
| And I'm sick of stupid leftists that go sit in universities and hear how elite and how smart they are all day coming and getting in my face telling me about political stuff I should support. | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| If I have no chance of doing something political because of all the people involved and Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons, Israel's going nowhere. | ||
| It's going nowhere. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| I mean, I guess, like, in a physical sense. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't want to unpack that because Alex's position on Israel is so fucking convoluted and changes over the years. | ||
| Yeah, I don't want any... | ||
| It's nonsensical to the nth degree. | ||
| I want to talk about this idea that he's saying that Palestinians are just Arabs who want to take over things and they aren't accepted anywhere else. | ||
| He specifically said free land, too, which is bananas. | ||
| Yeah, that's nuts. | ||
| We could talk about that for an hour. | ||
| Free land has a very different connotation than whatever you think the Palestinians are trying to do. | ||
| Yeah, that's a mess. | ||
| And then also in that first clip, not the last one he played, when he's talking about they don't take them in Jordan, Egypt. | ||
| Those are two countries that I'm specifically going to talk about. | ||
| Alex is pretty much entirely wrong about Palestinian immigration patterns. | ||
| All I need to do to debunk his entire position is to point to a 2013 study from the UN which has all the statistics on Palestinian immigration flows. | ||
| 2.1 million Palestinians went to Jordan. | ||
| Approximately 550,000 went to Lebanon. | ||
| 280,000 to Libya. | ||
| 242,000 to Syria. | ||
| And 120,000 to Saudi Arabia. | ||
| A large percentage of these people were considered refugees when they arrived at their host countries. | ||
| Because of course they were. | ||
| This reflected a bit of an increase. | ||
| Census numbers from the Migration Policy Center in 2011 still showed about 95,000 Palestinian immigrants. | ||
| Emigrants. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| Into Saudi Arabia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For context, in 2011, Canada had a population of 7,395 Palestinians total in the country. | ||
| America is home to approximately 255,000 Palestinians, ranking below Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt. | ||
| Odd. | ||
| Three of those countries are the ones that Alex was saying that don't accept any Palestinians. | ||
| The ones that never accept any Palestinians. | ||
| One of the difficulties with emigrating for Palestinians is that, quote, exit visas are delivered by the Israeli authorities. | ||
| Palestinians are not allowed access to Ben Geren Airport in Tel Aviv. | ||
| Palestinian holders of an identity document, including those with foreign citizenship, must pass through border posts reserved for Palestinians. | ||
| The Allenby Bridge in Jericho is the only crossing point for... | ||
| Well, they're great! | ||
| No, they're definitely not. | ||
| They control outward immigration. | ||
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Come on! | |
| Come on! | ||
| They're not purveyors of an apartheid state at all! | ||
| Come on, Dan! | ||
| A 2000 study out of the Forced Migration and Refugee Studies program at the American University in Cairo showed that from 2000 to 2006, a consistent level of about 16% of the world Palestinian population lived in Arab countries other than Jordan. | ||
| I specify that only because Jordan is considered individually in the statistics, reflecting its very high Palestinian population. | ||
| All this is to say that Alex has no fucking idea what he's talking about, and all this reflects is a deep-seated bigotry being presented as knowledge. | ||
| And in that clip, he's yelling about people, these dumb leftists who come up to him and say, hey, you should support Palestinians, when we know that in 2009 he fucking did. | ||
| He supported Palestinians! | ||
| He absolutely did. | ||
| Very strongly. | ||
| Not in some meek, wishy-washy way. | ||
| No, not in like a... | ||
| Very in favor of the Palestinian issue. | ||
| Yeah, not even like a, well, I think Palestine and Israel should be able to coexist and all that. | ||
| No, it was like, hey! | ||
| Palestinians are fucking people. | ||
| Stop treating them not like that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So we know that he had that position then, which is completely different now, and he's presenting this idea of leftists who come up to him and are like, hey, you know all this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And he's mad because, you guys don't have stats! | ||
| You don't study! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Ten minutes. | ||
| Of looking into this has yielded a number of statistics that debunk entirely his idea of like there's no Palestinians in Saudi Arabia, none in Jordan. | ||
| Jordan has so many Palestinians. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Bananas. | ||
| I... | ||
| I like to imagine that so much of Alex's leftist talking points that, oh, leftist came up to me on the street, are just time travel. | ||
| He has a time-traveling hymn that's just hanging around every now and again, just walks in and like, you remember when you believed this? | ||
| You suck. | ||
| No, what it is is he probably had a dream where his subconscious was trying to reconcile with what he's become. | ||
| He had a manifestation of some leftist in his fucking dumb head that was just sleeping. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I'm guessing. | ||
| It's just guilt. | ||
| It's just dumb guilt about his present positions and recognizing and understanding that what I support is advocating people being killed for no reason. | ||
| I was against that in the past. | ||
| For whatever reason, I'm now super into it. | ||
| Who knows what that is? | ||
| Maybe people giving me money who are also against the Palestinians. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Can't believe that. | ||
| But this is so fucking offensive and stupid. | ||
| You don't even have to... | ||
| Support Palestinian rights to think that that's stupid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, that's dumb on its face. | ||
| Even if you're against the Palestinians, making an argument that Arab countries don't accept Palestinians is crazy dumb. | ||
| Yeah, not even noted propagandist and liar Bibi Netanyahu would say dumb shit like that. | ||
| I don't even know if Pamela Geller would say something like that. | ||
| Oh, she would definitely say that. | ||
| Yeah, she probably would. | ||
| Hannity probably would, too. | ||
| He's a fucking idiot. | ||
| But Alex yelling about that stuff really got good to him. | ||
| And so he's feeling the spirit, and he starts yelling about how Western culture is under attack. | ||
| Western countries are under attack. | ||
| The birth ethics under attack. | ||
| Free markets under attack. | ||
| Things that people fought wars for. | ||
| Free speech. | ||
| The right to commerce. | ||
| The right to live. | ||
| The right to worship. | ||
| The right to not worship. | ||
| It's all being taken away. | ||
| Your birthright. | ||
| I don't care whether you're a Jew or a Muslim or you're Mexican. | ||
| You do. | ||
| Yeah, you 100% do. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| It's really funny that in that clip he's saying already, like, the idea of, like, I defend your right to not worship. | ||
| Like, you think that atheists are a satanic organization. | ||
| Well, he's not wrong. | ||
| Come off that shit. | ||
| That's why we rob so much. | ||
| Or you're English, or who you are. | ||
| If you don't take the birthright of freedom and a future, and say you're willing to stand up for it, then you're a chump! | ||
| What if you're in Palestine? | ||
| Millennials. | ||
| Half of them want to be communist or fascist. | ||
| 70% actually. | ||
| Now Alex is taking that 44% are interested. | ||
| Really jumping that up. | ||
| 44% interested in socialism. | ||
| 7% each for communism and fascism. | ||
| Which would be 58%. | ||
| But he's now turned it into 70. And as we get deeper in this clip, he just is making up numbers. | ||
| 45% want to be commies. | ||
| 10% want to be socialists. | ||
| 9% want to be fascists. | ||
| They're just idiots. | ||
| They're morons! | ||
| As if you're going to have a seat at the table in a fascist government. | ||
| That's a fair point. | ||
| You don't get a seat in a fascist government unless you're a commando in the military, idiot. | ||
| I don't agree with that. | ||
| Yeah, no, that's wrong. | ||
| And you don't get a seat in a communist government unless you are the most murderous piece of bank-robbing, garbage, child-molesting crap you can imagine. | ||
| You could just be conniving. | ||
| You don't get free welfare. | ||
| You get nothing in China but slave labor. | ||
| And these dumbass commies, these dumbass millennials want that and have no idea what they're talking about because of these evil professors funded by the big banks in there. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Please don't forget, we're free market and need your funds. | ||
| And we got great products. | ||
| It's a win-win. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Oh, damn! | ||
| Double patriot points? | ||
| Do your Christmas shopping there and help save the republic. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here, you dumb asshole. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| All right, whatever. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| So, if that wasn't embarrassing enough, that crass nonsense that he just pulled there, this next clip, I honestly think, is one of my favorite things that Alex has ever done. | ||
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All right. | |
| And you'll enjoy this, because he's talking some shit on HW, right? | ||
| But then he gets into how the Bushes, they're in skull and bones. | ||
| They are? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And then... | ||
| He gets into some evidence. | ||
| Oh, I like hearing evidence about Skull and Bones. | ||
| We're also going to come in with some of the choral choir music of H.W. Bush's ongoing worship fest and just juxtapose that. | ||
| Can we cue back up what Skull and Bones had meant? | ||
| It was very accurate. | ||
| Robert De Niro's production of The Good Shepherd, that piece we played yesterday. | ||
| Bathing in feces. | ||
| Bringing up a movie. | ||
| Men having sex with each other in giant vats of feces and pissing on each other. | ||
| Bringing up a movie. | ||
| Damon dressed up like a woman as they bend him over and have sex in the feces. | ||
| Yeah, but we all want to do that to Matt Damon. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So why not have the coffin there and everybody else can get in the coffin and you can channel the devil or this pantheon of other gods and goddesses entering your body? | ||
| And then, you know, people can pee-pee on you. | ||
| I'll be your guide for the next few weeks. | ||
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The revealing process is our most sacred ritual. | |
| It's been a skull tradition since the late 1700s, and it is the foundation of your class's commitment to each other. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So I don't know if this is that Robert De Niro movie that he's talking about, because I know at least one point... | ||
| Like I said, I'm just listening to the audio, so I don't see the video of this. | ||
| But later, I know that I heard Joshua Jackson's voice. | ||
| So, he's also playing clips from The Skull. | ||
| Yeah, that's... | ||
| The Joshua Jackson movie, also starring, God rest his soul, Paul Walker. | ||
| So, he's playing these movies about skull and bones that are outright fiction. | ||
| That's his sort of... | ||
| That's his, like, this is proof. | ||
| These people fucking feces. | ||
| Also, also, come on. | ||
| That would be a great fucking funeral. | ||
| Are you shitting me? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're giving good advice, Alex. | ||
| You think it's ironic. | ||
| It is great. | ||
| So I just like, of course, everything is a goddamn movie to him. | ||
| He doesn't understand the differentiation between fiction and reality. | ||
| I don't fucking know what to do with it. | ||
| But, like I said, we got some Proud Boy slash Proud Boy adjacent people coming up. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We're going to end this episode by hearing a little bit from them. | ||
| Rufio Pan Man. | ||
| Very... | ||
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Rufio! | |
| Rufio! | ||
| He doesn't really talk. | ||
| Rufio! | ||
| He doesn't really factor into this interview much, because he's been on Alex's show before, whereas MAGA Titan has never been on the show before. | ||
| Now, they have an interview where MAGA Titan is just saying the exact same thing Alex Jones believes back to him, and then trying to be like, Hey, I met you at this rally. | ||
| I was wearing an InfoWars hat. | ||
| You remember me? | ||
| I remember you. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| There's like a... | ||
| It appears that Maga Titan might be starting a blog on one of Alex's sites or something like that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's vague. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure, but I think he's getting involved with InfoWars somehow. | ||
| I don't give two fucks about anything like that. | ||
| If there is ever any website that I am ever a part of... | ||
| I don't want to be a part of any website that has a byline by MAGA Titan. | ||
| No thanks. | ||
| You're quoting Brad Joe Marks. | ||
| I think that's right. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't want to be a member of any club that has a byline by MAGA Titan. | ||
| Classic comedy. | ||
| So, look, I don't want to... | ||
| The entirety of the interview is not really illuminating, except for them all, like the three of them all being like, we're victims. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| We're victims! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| And that just gets redundant, us sort of like pointing out like, ha ha. | ||
| You guys yell about everyone being cucks, and then you do entire radio shows. | ||
| And then you whine and bitch about how you're victims all the time. | ||
| Meh, meh, meh, meh, meh. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| That's not interesting. | ||
| But Maga Titan says a couple things that I think are very interesting. | ||
| Release the Kraken! | ||
| It's close. | ||
| Here's the first one. | ||
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This is how I woke up. | |
| I saw how they folded the $20 bill, if you guys have ever seen this, that's tuning in right now. | ||
| It's very interesting. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| He just folded the bill. | ||
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Yes, sir. | |
| It shows the World Trade Center on one side, the Pentagon on the other side. | ||
| It should be harder than that! | ||
| 9 plus 11 is 20, United Airlines on one side, American Airlines on the other side. | ||
| I started looking into 9-11, and of course... | ||
| 9-11, the road to tyranny popped up. | ||
| So he found an Alex Jones documentary because he folded a $20 bill a certain way. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| 9-11. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| Is this Nicolas Cage all over again? | ||
| God damn it, Dan! | ||
| 9 plus 11. 9-11 equals $20. | ||
| $20 bill. | ||
| American Airlines. | ||
| United Airlines. | ||
| Bingo, bango. | ||
| It should be harder to come up with a bullshit conspiracy theory. | ||
| What an idiot, right? | ||
| That is dumb. | ||
| So there's a really fun page on Snopes where they talk about this, the sort of urban legend of folding the dollar bill up. | ||
| They show exactly what they're talking about and it's like, yeah, well, most of the... | ||
| Dollar bills in circulation, all the forms of bills we have, include bushes and buildings. | ||
| And if you fold them up in the right way, you can make them look like X, Y, or Z, like buildings on fire. | ||
| If you fold up a piece of paper, you can make it look like a swan. | ||
| If you fold up a dollar bill just the right way, you can also make it say Osama on it, because those letters are all on the dollar bill. | ||
| I gotcha. | ||
| Well, that proves it. | ||
| But then, also, they're like, it's more fun if you do this with foreign currency, because there's some... | ||
| I don't know what... | ||
| I don't remember what country it is, but... | ||
| They show one where if you fold it up just the right way, it looks like two badgers butt-fucking. | ||
| And so they sort of illustrate that if you fold up money a bunch of different ways, you can create a bunch of pictures that you want that describe meaning to it. | ||
| So MAGA Titan got woken up by folding a goddamn $20 bill. | ||
| Does that encapsulate the right any better? | ||
| Is there any better evidence they have? | ||
| I would argue that if he's a millennial, then Alex's position that millennials are stupid is bearing out on his own show. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| No. | ||
| If that's the way you want to do it, if that's your example, do not disagree. | ||
| So here's the last clip where we hear a little bit more from MAGA Titan. | ||
| Do you know how Einstein found the general theory of relativity? | ||
| Not the special relativity. | ||
| The special theory of relativity was painstaking work. | ||
| He folded up a silver note. | ||
| The general theory of relativity? | ||
| That was actually a 20 pound note. | ||
| He folded it up and then... | ||
| I heard that that's actually lore. | ||
| That's like folklore. | ||
| That's a myth. | ||
| What actually happened is he swallowed a nickel and he choked on it. | ||
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He swallowed a nickel? | |
| He choked on the nickel. | ||
| And that's how he discovered gravity, right? | ||
| He had a vision of gravity. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| I gotcha. | ||
| So anyway, this next clip is even stupider. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I really can't. | ||
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And I just want to say, the title of Liberty News Wars is the media page. | |
| My... | ||
| I just did that because we have to get the news out there, and we have to report what's going on. | ||
| I mean, NASA just reported, was it yesterday, that they admitted that they had intelligent life, small human beings, or alien beings here on Earth before. | ||
| Now you're in my territory. | ||
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But MAGA Titan was really a troll. | |
| That's how it was born, MAGA Titan. | ||
| I like to make memes. | ||
| Oh, okay, so you're a meme troll. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Pass. | ||
| Pass! | ||
| Alex says, I think he might be getting trolled in this interview. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure if this guy can be considered serious. | ||
| Because most of the rest of the stuff he says is really just like... | ||
| If looked through the prism of someone just trying to use Alex Jones' platform in order to create a name for themselves, he's doing it perfectly in terms of agreeing with Alex about everything. | ||
| Being like, yes, absolutely, these globalists are the ones who are the villains and stuff like that. | ||
| And then the troll piece of it could be, I got woken up by folding a $20 bill, and then Alex allowing that to be on his show. | ||
| And you heard Alex even say, it shows the Twin Towers. | ||
| Giving recognition of that. | ||
| He's Don DeMargapri. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| He doesn't end the interview with the, I got woken up by folding a $20 bill. | ||
| A little bit later, he's like, I started this because we need to get the news out. | ||
| NASA just admitted that they had humanoid aliens who have been here in the past. | ||
| That story is not true. | ||
| Did NASA admit it, though? | ||
| No. | ||
| There was a guy who worked for NASA who gave a speech to SETI, the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And there was a write-up of a speech he gave, and he was basically arguing the idea that perhaps the idea that aliens have been here before isn't something we should discount out of hand. | ||
| The idea that if you want to study those things, there's no reason not to apply the same scientific rigor that you do with other things. | ||
| So the news is, scientist goes in front of other scientists and says, maybe we should do science. | ||
| Study is scientist-like. | ||
| But at the same time, they are... | ||
| They're better than Project Camelot. | ||
| So his point was, on the one hand, people who are arguing that aliens have been here should adopt scientific methods. | ||
| And at the same time, scientists who are studying these sorts of things shouldn't dismiss out of hand things that look absurd, but should humor them and treat them with the same... | ||
| Rigorous. | ||
| You know, you should do science. | ||
| So there was a write-up of his speech that he gave, and it got... | ||
| That's misrepresented by places like Fox News. | ||
| No way. | ||
| And also, they didn't reach out to him for comment at all. | ||
| That sounds journalistically ethical. | ||
| They just reported NASA scientist says that aliens probably have been here in the past. | ||
| And now MAGA troll. | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| MAGA titan troll is coming on Alex's show. | ||
| He's like, we got to get the news out here. | ||
| NASA just admitted that humanoid intelligent aliens have been here in the past. | ||
| It's like a dumb game of telephone. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| These people are fucking dumb. | ||
| Bananas. | ||
| These guys are having a great time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Until they're not, which Roger probably won't be soon. | ||
| But what we have here is, and I think this is the big piece of this episode and the reason why I think it's kind of fun. | ||
| Remember, there was that episode in 2015 where Alex was like, today I am going to jump the shark. | ||
| I am going to... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I remember that one. | ||
| I'm going to intentionally make an argument to bait the media into covering me. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I'm doing this in order to start the conversation. | ||
| I want all Muslims taken out of the country. | ||
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Right. | |
| I want Islam banned. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That episode had such an interesting arc to me of, like, Alex thinking that people are going to misrepresent him and then accidentally kind of stating his own positions. | ||
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Yep. | |
| It was a very weird... | ||
| Sort of dynamic. | ||
| And so when I started listening and he did that Constellation shit, it had the same sort of feel to me of this idea of Alex is now laying down what the groundwork of the episode is going to be. | ||
| He's laid out the blueprint of it. | ||
| I have a bunch of stories that are going to build to a bigger story. | ||
| Once again, just a line segment. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But in his idea... | ||
| Is a bunch of stories that are going to add up to something bigger than the sum of their parts. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And the only reason that you don't understand it is because you don't have the same gift that Alex has to read between the lines of his own stories. | ||
| Well, I have never folded up a $20 bill, so I could be wrong. | ||
| So, in presenting his bullshit to stories that he's wrong about, what you end up with is him just trying to demonize... | ||
| Millennials. | ||
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Right. | |
| And trying to say that they're the ones who are going to take away all the things that you have. | ||
| People like us. | ||
| Moral people. | ||
| The producers in society. | ||
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Galts. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| So that is what the end result of his blueprint is. | ||
| That's the building that he was trying to erect. | ||
| And when you apply the exact same principle that he was doing, using the constellation, I can take news stories. | ||
| Alex has been kicked off YouTube. | ||
| Alex has been kicked off Twitter. | ||
| Alex's audience is diminishing. | ||
| Alex is trying to sell everything in his fucking warehouse. | ||
| Alex is weirdly demonizing the youth. | ||
| And you can do the same thing, make a constellation out of it. | ||
| Oh, what that points to is your audience is entirely fucking old, scared people. | ||
| And that's going to be diminishing returns for you. | ||
| How many points did you make? | ||
| Patriot points? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| How many you put up? | ||
| Five fingers. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Five points. | ||
| Pentagon. | ||
| Do you know what that means, Dan? | ||
| You're an agent for the goddamn Pentagon and I knew it this whole fucking time! | ||
| We gotta go! | ||
| Do you know how I know? | ||
| Because I was an agent for Alex Jones this whole time, and we finally got to the bottom of it. | ||
| Constellations. | ||
| Let's all fold up dollar bills and all down nominations. | ||
| So anyway, the point is, I can't prove that Alex's audience is entirely old people. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And you did. | ||
| But using the same techniques as him, I can do a better job of making an argument that explains his rhetoric. | ||
| I'm just fascinated by things like that. | ||
| I'm fascinated by, like, when... | ||
| I have been in this game for as long as I have, and I can like, oh, I see what you're doing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| No, that's, and look. | ||
| It's a weird, completely useless gift outside of this show. | ||
| Dude, at this point in time, I feel like I should have been able to gather that based on the amount of time that I have been playing this game, and yet somehow I am still... | ||
| Delightfully ignorant, once again proving that I know nothing about Alex Jones. | ||
| But at the same time, I guess I would say if you had the couple hours to sit around and think about, like, why is he saying this? | ||
| This doesn't mean anything. | ||
| These stories aren't really connected. | ||
| What's the point here? | ||
| He set out to create... | ||
| This pastiche of fear and misery and paranoia. | ||
| But there was a specific track he was trying to go on, which was, I have these stories that you don't realize are connected but actually are. | ||
| That is not something that somebody fumbling around accidentally does. | ||
| And I see that from him enough to know I don't think that it is just some stupid person. | ||
| I think it's someone who's very dumb, obviously, and an inveterate liar, but who's trying to do something. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know if we're going to get to the bottom of anything, but all my point is I enjoy episodes like this. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I trust you, but that's kind of why I still find... | ||
| There's the push and pull. | ||
| Yeah, it does kind of boggle my mind from time to time. | ||
| Like, why am I still interested in doing this show? | ||
| Because there's an onion. | ||
| It is a never-ending onion. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| But I think that also that reflects Kraft. | ||
| Because a lesser talented person than Alex would have said the N-word on air by now. | ||
| Or someone would have given up so much that they would be like, oh. | ||
| I mean, some could argue that his Sandy Hook behavior is like the example of that. | ||
| Where he gave up too much. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Alex, you have completely shit the bed on this one. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He hasn't, at least in the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours that I've listened to, outside of, I guess, a couple instances where he, like, called Zimbabwe Rhodesia. | ||
| Yeah, that one's pretty rough. | ||
| And said that, like, Muslim girls at a pool supplies shop freak him out. | ||
| They are terrifying. | ||
| Like, those things are pretty overt. | ||
| But, like, he hasn't done... | ||
| It's another version of Kraft that he's able to be this racist without being overtly super racist. | ||
| It's spectacular. | ||
| So that keeps you interested, too, because it's always... | ||
| When are you gonna just say the N-word? | ||
| And it's always... | ||
| Just do it so I can write you off! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back. | ||
| On Monday. | ||
| Ah, indeed we will, Dan. | ||
| But until then, this has been our show. | ||
| Alex's show still sucks in the present day, but it's at least a little more entertaining when you see the shape of it for what it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But until we are back, we have a website, knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Oh, we do. | ||
| Do we have a social media presence, Dan? | ||
| We do. | ||
| Twitter, it's knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And on Facebook. | ||
| We have a group called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant. | ||
| That's the way to go. | ||
| I don't even think we should bother with our Facebook page anymore. | ||
| Join the group! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| I still post there every now and again. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Well, that's nice then. | ||
| Also, we're on iTunes. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| You can download, leave a review. | ||
| So, we get to the end of this episode, and Jordan, what's weighing on my mind... | ||
| What's that? | ||
| ...is that... | ||
| Bob Seger might have killed a guy. | ||
| Rufio Pan Man. | ||
| I don't want to... | ||
| Say that he hasn't killed a man. | ||
| Rufio! | ||
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Rufio! | |
| I think that Maga Titan played himself out a little bit by explaining that he's a troll and a meme kind of guy. | ||
| So I'm going to guess that he hasn't killed anybody. | ||
| Almost certainly. | ||
| That kind of guy really just likes to antagonize and fuck around. | ||
| It's not going to kill somebody. | ||
| No. | ||
| But one guy who has technically probably killed a guy. | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Alex, I'm a first time caller. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |