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Nov. 30, 2018 - Knowledge Fight
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#233: November 28, 2018

In Knowledge Fight #233, Alex Jones falsely claims Jerome Coursey was pressured by Florida authorities, conflates transgender issues with pedophilia, and pushes Epstein treason theories without evidence. He repeats debunked Las Vegas shooter conspiracy claims despite an official 187-page report proving them wrong, blames GM closures on anti-American sentiment, and warns about Clinton’s unreleased emails—potentially violating legal norms. Praising Bolsonaro and Faith Goldie (a fired neo-Nazi journalist), he ignores their fascist ties while promoting violent rhetoric. Jones’ incoherent metaphors and reliance on misinformation reveal a pattern of prioritizing emotional manipulation over facts, undermining credibility in favor of fringe narratives. [Automatically generated summary]

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alex jones
infowars 15:47
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dan friesen
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jordan holmes
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm my first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
alex jones
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we are.
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Shut up.
What's up?
I was going to launch into an interruption of we have no time for this dumb question because the world is going crazy.
Right.
Jordan.
jordan holmes
We totally have time.
We totally have time.
Laura Loomer is chained to a building.
Hilarious.
dan friesen
Hilarious.
jordan holmes
Michael Cohen has finally provided a smoking gun of perjury.
dan friesen
Oh, boy, he's weak.
jordan holmes
He's weak, Dan.
That's why.
It's not because I'm an inveterate, constant, and sociopathological liar.
It's because he's weak.
dan friesen
He's weak.
So that was my intent when I told you to shut up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure.
It was great.
dan friesen
But then as soon as it came out of my mouth, I got really self-conscious and forgot to launch into talking about Laura Loomer being chained to a building.
Which, by the way, as we're recording this, she has already unconsciously.
jordan holmes
She's already quit?
God, why?
Oh, for those of you who it was pathetic before, it's the most pathetic now.
dan friesen
It was very sad.
Laura Loomer was mad that she got kicked off Twitter, and so she chained herself to the door of Twitter's headquarters, and the police came and said, Twitter's not going to press charges.
If you need us, give us a call.
And at that point, it was revealed that she had thrown away her key and couldn't get herself off the door.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
And they were like, what do you want?
unidentified
She's like, I want my Twitter.
dan friesen
So lame.
jordan holmes
Look, look, I don't enjoy Schadenfreud.
dan friesen
Sure.
Yeah, you do.
jordan holmes
Oh, I totally do.
And this is one of those times.
And I love it.
dan friesen
It was great, too, because she had a fucking Star of David on her, which is not distasteful at all.
Why?
Because she was trying to present the idea that she was kicked off because she's Jewish.
And that's unfortunate.
jordan holmes
Laura.
dan friesen
Laura.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
The other thing that she was doing was she had a printout of one of her tweets and then a Farrakhan tweet.
And I would say that the only argument you're trying to make is that Farrakhan should also be kicked off Twitter.
I'm not going to argue with you there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, you're fine.
dan friesen
Do you want more people kicked off Twitter?
I'm listening.
Yeah.
That's not going to get you back.
But yeah.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
That is interesting.
Yeah, let's kick more people off.
That is a fascinating list.
Hey, hey, if I can't get away with it, then neither should he.
Okay.
Yeah.
Anybody else you got?
dan friesen
Hey, I'm digging on this.
jordan holmes
What's the list?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Twitter has been needing to get rid of assholes for a long time.
Thanks for helping us out.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
Everything's crazy right now.
I got no idea where any of this is going to lead.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I know where the Laura Loomer thing is going to lead.
Nowhere.
But I mean, in terms of like Coursey's nonsense, Michael Cohen.
He's going to press criminal charges.
jordan holmes
Coursey is going to press criminal charges.
You know how Coursey can do that, right, Dan?
dan friesen
Oh, God, this is all just going to blow up so crazy.
unidentified
He was empowered by the state of Florida.
dan friesen
So all that is to say, I don't know what's going on with the world, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
And I only know what you tell me about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
That is our show.
Look, Jordan, I've been having a tough time this week because, well, first of all, I was really sort of self-conscious about our Wednesday episode with Reverend Manning.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I was deeply concerned that maybe some of the clips would have been too much for people.
jordan holmes
I can think of specifically a few of them.
dan friesen
And I'm confused a little.
jordan holmes
Was it the Stone Balls one?
That's the one you were mostly worried about.
dan friesen
That one?
That wasn't it.
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
That was pretty offensive.
dan friesen
A little later in the episode.
jordan holmes
That was pretty offensive.
dan friesen
A little later in the episode.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
I think you're right.
It was the Stone Balls.
dan friesen
I was a little confused that the response has been mostly positive.
And I put up a poll in our Facebook group, Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant about whether or not people would like us to talk about Reverend Manning more.
jordan holmes
I believe it was overwhelming.
dan friesen
Yes, yeah, yes.
So I don't know if we'll do that.
I don't know if I'm going to listen to the will of the people on this one, but we'll see.
But I was very happy after the Obama deception.
jordan holmes
The will of the people is suspect.
dan friesen
Democracy is dead.
It died in the darkness of hour nine of the Obama deception.
I don't know.
I'm going to sit with those thoughts and see where we go in terms of covering him.
But I'm glad the people enjoyed it.
I'm glad that people didn't think in any way we were giving a platform for him or trivializing violent homophobia.
I'm glad, because those were some of the concerns I had.
I was a little concerned about what are our responsibilities here.
And I realized that I didn't think enough about that before we recorded the episode.
And I'm glad that people didn't seem to think that we were on the wrong side.
jordan holmes
It seems like you didn't think about that enough before we started the show.
dan friesen
Certainly.
This whole podcast is kind of there.
This whole podcast is kind of there.
So the other thing that I've been having a difficult time with this week is I've been listening to Alex in the present day, trying to do a better job of covering his bullshit in the present, and his show sucks.
So I didn't.
jordan holmes
Still on that tip, huh?
dan friesen
We're recording this on Thursday for a Friday release, and I listened to Sunday.
Yeah.
All I could hear was him talking about these immigrant hordes coming over the border.
jordan holmes
They're doing it.
dan friesen
He implied that, not implied.
He straight up said that that picture of the woman taking her children away from tear gas canisters was a doctored photo.
It was set up.
It was set up by the globalists of Jerome Coursey.
And I was like, oh, this is bad.
I don't want to talk about this.
Monday, same bullshit.
Tuesday, same bullshit.
I'm like, I don't know what we're going to do.
We've got to do a current day episode on Friday.
We've got to let people know what Alex is up to.
So thankfully, Wednesday.
jordan holmes
Teasing it out.
Teasing it out.
dan friesen
Wednesday rolls around.
And at this point, you know, it's clear that Coursey is going off script.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
He's getting a little weird.
I'm like, oh, maybe Alex will talk about this.
There's so much going on by Wednesday that I'm like, Alex has got to get off his dumb immigrants at the border riff.
He's got to bring something to the table.
jordan holmes
No chance.
dan friesen
And he did on Wednesday one of the weirder shows I've ever heard.
And so thankfully, we'll be going over Wednesday, November 28th, 2018 today.
And I'll say this.
We're recording this on Thursday.
I haven't listened to Thursday's episode, but I'm willing to bet he's freaking out.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is Coursey still on the payroll?
dan friesen
If he is, they would never say that.
And actually, there's a clip.
Alex does say something about Coursey that's really weird in this episode.
So get ready for that.
jordan holmes
We fucked in a bathtub.
dan friesen
For Monday's episode, we may have to do another present day episode because I think on Thursday and Friday, Alex is going to be losing his goddamn mind.
jordan holmes
I'm excited.
dan friesen
Based on the news that's broken here on Thursday evening, just before we're recording about the Cohen situation and stuff like that, Alex is going to have to be in super defense mode.
But on Wednesday, he starts his show.
Oh, shit.
I forgot about this.
Before we start the show.
Okay, all right, all right.
I'd like to give a shout out to you who supported the show.
Yay!
unidentified
Awful.
dan friesen
Awful on my phone.
There's too much going on.
jordan holmes
There's a lot going on.
dan friesen
I don't have.
jordan holmes
Shut up.
dan friesen
All right.
I don't have notes in front of me with all the beats to hit in the intro.
I'm just going off the dome here.
So anyway, I apologize.
You're doing great.
I apologize.
I almost forgot, but I would never forget about these people.
I appreciate them also very much.
First of all, like 9-11, we will never forget about one of our new donors.
I'd like to give a shout-out to.
Thank you so much, Old Man Coyote.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you, old man Coyote.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Old Man Coyote.
dan friesen
Also, I'd like to give a shout out to someone who has joined up with the team, Michael S. You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you, Mike.
dan friesen
Thank you very much, Michael S. Also, I'd like to say thank you to Nirma.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you, Nirma.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Nirma.
dan friesen
Finally, I'd like to.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit, it's still coming.
dan friesen
A special thank you to someone who has joined up with the team on an elevated level.
We appreciate it.
Oh, so very much.
So, Larry, I'd like to say thank you.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Someone, sodomite, sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Sharp.
Jarjar Binks has a Korean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you, Larry.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Larry.
dan friesen
All right.
Sorry about that.
Now, listen, if you.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Dan, I don't want to say this, but historically, mythologically, you might want to keep an eye on Old Man Coyote.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think he might be up to something.
jordan holmes
He gets around.
All I'm saying is that there are many situations that Old Man Coyote has been in the past wherein he tricked some white folk, Dan.
And I'm just saying.
dan friesen
In this case, he's on our side, and I appreciate it.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
If you'd like to join our side and support the show, you can go to our website, knowledgefight.com.
Click that button that says support the show.
We would appreciate it very much.
jordan holmes
Please do.
dan friesen
Now, to the matter at hand.
alex jones
Yes.
dan friesen
Wednesday, November 28th.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
2018.
jordan holmes
That's who we are.
That's where we are.
dan friesen
Now, I told you already that I was listening to the doldrums of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and I wasn't expecting Alex to come with much of anything.
But then he started the show like this, and I knew I was fucking in for it.
unidentified
Time keeps on slipping.
jordan holmes
This show is about Space Jam.
alex jones
The most important broadcast we've ever done.
dan friesen
Ever.
unidentified
Time keeps on slipping seven, seven.
alex jones
Now, you will notice that if you were tuned into the show 20-plus years ago, a lot of you were.
I would say that maybe once every two years.
And then in the last five or six years, I've heard saying it every six months or so.
In the last years, I've been saying it every couple weeks.
dan friesen
Too much.
alex jones
Because things just get more intense, more crazy, more amazing at every level.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
There are human clones in chest condition inside mothers.
API's report.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
No, those are not human clones.
I know what story he's basing his bullshit on.
dan friesen
Are you sure?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I guess not, apparently.
dan friesen
What do you think he's basing this on?
jordan holmes
I think he's basing it on the Chinese scientist who doctor gene editing.
Which I have thoughts on.
dan friesen
Oh, a lot of people do.
A lot of the world scientific community has come out very nicely.
jordan holmes
Super against it.
dan friesen
So, just in case other people don't know what this is about, the story he's talking about is about a Chinese scientist named He Zhin Kui, who's a researcher who earlier this week claimed that he had used gene editing techniques on twin girls who were born recently.
The issue with Alex even running with this story is that, quote, there is no independent confirmation of he's claim, and it has not been published in a journal where it would be vetted by other experts.
At this point, there's no proof that this dude did what he claimed to have done, but even if he had, his actions have been roundly denounced by a majority of the scientific community, nearly universal in their reaction that this is irresponsible and premature based on where the science is currently.
jordan holmes
And still isn't cloning.
dan friesen
You bet.
jordan holmes
That's still not cloning.
They're just HIV resistant, if real.
dan friesen
Right, right.
And the day after this story broke, China ordered the team to halt all work they were doing, and they're launching an investigation into this dude, which likely won't end well.
jordan holmes
No.
I mean, frankly, recent Chinese investigations have not ended well for a lot of people.
Specifically, movie stars, the head of Interpol.
Right, right.
dan friesen
So this, Alex doesn't bring this story back up, but he's leading with it, which is great.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
alex jones
There are clones.
jordan holmes
Clones are everywhere.
alex jones
Clones and wombs.
jordan holmes
Clones are everywhere.
dan friesen
I've been telling you.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I'm like, oh, well, this is going to be a good show.
If he's leading with that, and this is the most important show I have ever done.
I'm like, oh, this, this.
I'm listening, buddy.
So I also looked into it because I was like, maybe that story isn't what he's talking about, the gene editing out of China.
I was like, I was trying to find any stories about cloning.
And I found a story that came out of China recently about cloning.
And it came out the day that Alex is doing this show.
So I'm thinking maybe he's conflating these two stories.
The headline of that story is, quote, world's first cloned monkey marks first birthday.
jordan holmes
They're cloning humans.
A year ago, they cloned a monkey.
Done.
dan friesen
You know, because it would make sense that people don't freak out too much about like a cloned dog.
You know, like when someone's dog dies, gets hit by a car, they'll sometimes clone them.
jordan holmes
Really?
unidentified
Yeah, that happens.
dan friesen
You could, oh, dude.
jordan holmes
That happens?
dan friesen
Google it.
They do that a lot.
unidentified
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I want a fucking clone dog.
dan friesen
Well, when one of your girlfriends' dogs dies, clone that.
No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
I want it.
I want it now.
I want it while it's alive.
I want another dog that's exactly the same dog.
dan friesen
You already have that.
You have two of the same dogs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't have it.
You know what?
They're not the same.
dan friesen
They're very similar.
jordan holmes
They're very similar, but they're not the same.
I want the same dog.
dan friesen
So a lot of people clone their pets.
That happens a bunch.
jordan holmes
You do not know that.
dan friesen
Google it.
You'll find so many fucking stories about it.
And sheep like Dolly.
You know, people don't freak out too much about that.
But a monkey is so close to humans.
jordan holmes
It's there.
It's right there.
dan friesen
You freak people out so much.
The problem is that very article about this cloned monkey's first birthday ends with this quote.
Quote, authorities in China have said they have no plans to allow human cloning following the success of the monkey experiment.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I think this is a weird place for me to come out against.
I think I'm kind of fine with it.
I don't know, man.
As far as the gene editing thing goes, unless the scientist was secretly doing it to this lady.
dan friesen
I mean, if she was closing it, if you read up on it, there are some indications that he didn't give full disclosure.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Well, then that's fucking horrible.
dan friesen
From what I understand, I didn't do too much looking into this.
I read like three or four articles, but one of the articles was saying that some of the people who he was working with were just told that it was like an HIV vaccine type of test.
jordan holmes
Well, no, that's fucked up.
dan friesen
There's possible indications that he wasn't giving full informed consent to people.
jordan holmes
Here's my plan if I'm him.
Or not him.
Although if I was him, I would leave China yesterday.
I would be out of China so fast.
dan friesen
He is gone.
He's staying.
jordan holmes
No.
Run.
dan friesen
I'm going to run.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
That would be smart.
jordan holmes
Run.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No.
Find a place with very, very Lex Laws.
dan friesen
I know one island.
jordan holmes
And just put out on Facebook, like, hey, anybody want a gene-edited baby?
Somebody's going to show up.
dan friesen
There's one dog.
jordan holmes
Do you get a gene-edited baby?
dan friesen
There's one doctor I know.
He's got an island, right?
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Pal Kilmer.
jordan holmes
Dr. Moreau?
dan friesen
Oh, this shit flies all the time.
jordan holmes
See, there we go.
So this story.
dan friesen
This story is a complicated, confusing place for Alex to start.
And the show, it does not get less confusing.
alex jones
Trump gets it.
His gut gets it.
jordan holmes
Let's clone him.
alex jones
Trump said the deepest thing I ever did was start going my gut.
Because the gut is the entire subconscious.
Hundreds of times.
jordan holmes
No, powerful.
No, no.
alex jones
Cerebral corporations.
No.
And then your brain tells you in the gut.
jordan holmes
Stop.
alex jones
Don't do that.
Do this.
It's called intuition.
Trump has a whole background, 72 years of understanding, and he's seen it all and he knows, follow your gut.
It's never wrong.
My gut's never wrong.
Wow.
It's called being psychic.
unidentified
Oh, there we go.
dan friesen
Now keep in mind.
jordan holmes
Now we kicked it into another gear.
dan friesen
Keep in mind.
jordan holmes
We went from gut is intuition to then it's full-on psychic.
dan friesen
I have the second sight.
jordan holmes
He has the second, he has the sooth.
dan friesen
Now, we've heard Alex say that he's psychic in the past, but it's usually when he's drunk, sometimes late night recording or deep into a show.
This is minutes into his show.
This is minutes in.
He's saying that Trump is a psychic.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He trusts his gut and also Alex's psychic.
He's saying that they're both psychics.
It doesn't stop there.
jordan holmes
Dan, historically, just to give our listeners context.
When old white men trust their gut, are they usually right?
dan friesen
They're usually psychics.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Well, then I retract my question.
dan friesen
I also think that most of the time when people say they're psychics, they're up to something.
That's true.
Alex is not finished with his most of the time.
I would say so.
Okay.
Alex isn't done with his thoughts about psychic behavior.
jordan holmes
What about Miss Cleo?
dan friesen
She was up to something.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
It's called being psychic.
And real psychics run powerful countries.
They don't.
What?
You know, TV?
Oh, darling.
unidentified
Wait, what?
alex jones
That's a bunch of bull.
You don't find real psychics on the side of the road at gypsy wagons.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
alex jones
Find them as top generals on the battlefield.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is what we're dealing with here.
dan friesen
That's what we're dealing with.
jordan holmes
That's what we're dealing with.
dan friesen
A bunch of psychics.
jordan holmes
Hold on.
Clones.
alex jones
Clones.
jordan holmes
Real.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Biggest problem we're facing.
Second, Trump's a psychic.
Also, all psychics are world leaders or generals in some fashion.
dan friesen
That's where you find psychics.
jordan holmes
That's where real psychics are.
Because if you were a real psychic, you would work your way up to the top, I guess, using your psychic powers.
dan friesen
I honestly think that that is true.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, if you were actually psychic, you wouldn't have a corner store.
dan friesen
It follows that you would probably try and use that to accumulate power.
alex jones
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
Or something like that.
Or at least wealth.
I reject the initial premise of this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That there are psychics.
jordan holmes
There are psychic.
dan friesen
So, yes, if that's true, I believe that people would gravitate towards positions of power.
unidentified
But it's a big but.
jordan holmes
You know what?
First, I want definition of psychic powers.
That's what we have in the future, right?
Look, clairvoyance is low-tier psychic powers.
dan friesen
You're talking about putting thoughts in people's minds?
jordan holmes
Yeah, are we talking about mind reading?
How about kinetic telekinesis?
What level of psychic are we dealing with?
dan friesen
That's different.
That's a different classification to superpower.
jordan holmes
I want to know what are we adding psionic powers into this?
What level of psychic are we dealing with?
Are we just dealing with fortune tellers who, instead of being fortune tellers, are actually generals on the battlefield?
dan friesen
Are we talking?
jordan holmes
Furthermore, if you were a psychic general and you know that other generals are also psychic, why are you guys even fighting these battles?
The outcome is already ordained by your psychic powers.
We should just have two dudes sitting at the world chess championships, two dudes sitting having a psychic battle.
dan friesen
I'm sitting there and be like, why are we even doing this?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
The real question comes down to it for me is like, what is the real question?
You're trying to go into this, like, can they move things with their mind and stuff like that?
That's not the question for me.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The question for me is it Matt Parkman season one of Heroes or Matt Parkman season three.
unidentified
All right, Dan.
All right.
dan friesen
Those are very different psychics.
Okay.
So in this next clip, Alex gets to something that he believes is going on in the world, and I would say I don't believe him.
alex jones
And now the Chinese chi-coms.
Arrogant.
SOB.
jordan holmes
As opposed to the Russian Chikoms.
alex jones
And control the Democratic Party and much of the Republicans.
Yep.
They're preparing Russia as the distraction when Russia is just trying to stop from being overthrown.
Russia is completely on the defense, even cut their defense spending this year.
unidentified
Oh, yeah?
alex jones
They are completely encircled.
But they've culturally come back and are Christian again, and that's why they're powerful.
That doesn't sound right.
Because in the seed of that is the seed of the future and the future of Christendom on a planetary scale.
dan friesen
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
alex jones
Now, let's continue because we don't do that.
We're done.
But we'll have to be shown that first.
We'll get to look at the devil in the flesh and see billions kill before we finally get on our knees to Christ.
dan friesen
Yuck.
Yuck.
So the Russians are entirely defensive.
They're Christian now, so that's great.
jordan holmes
They're the seed when they were defensive now.
But were they defensive whenever they took those three Ukrainian ships?
dan friesen
I think he's saying now as a like, not just in this immediate moment.
No, because I've heard him talk about that.
He's saying that these Ukrainian ships just went into a Russian port and didn't tell them they were coming.
And so Russia is, well, within their rights to board these ships and kidnap these sailors.
jordan holmes
That sounds accurate.
That sounds exactly like what would have happened.
dan friesen
Doesn't you know how it seems like what Russia would say?
jordan holmes
It seems a lot like what Russia says.
dan friesen
That definitely tracks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Huh.
Interesting.
I don't want to unpack this too much just because it doesn't factor too heavily into the narratives of the show, but it's just another example of Alex creating this sort of Russian propaganda-centric broadcast in the present day.
jordan holmes
It is nice to hear him just kind of very bluntly say that Christianity is equal to fascism.
That's kind of what he's going for there.
If the future of Christendom is Russian Christianity, guys, if you're Christian, just give it up.
You're fascist.
We're out.
Call it a day.
dan friesen
It seems that way.
So when Alex said at the beginning of the show that this is the most important broadcast he's ever done.
jordan holmes
Ever.
dan friesen
It's not because he comes out as a psychic and outs Trump as a psychic, as well as all these generals, many of whom Alex hates.
jordan holmes
If it was, it would be a very front-loaded show.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
It's not that there's clones in wombs.
None of this is the case.
Here is the big news of the day.
jordan holmes
The big news?
dan friesen
It's the big news presents of today.
Nope.
I tried.
jordan holmes
I know.
You were doing great.
dan friesen
This is the big news.
Alex says he.
Here's the deal.
I have to give away the structure of this episode before we even get to it because Alex is so bad at his job.
The clip I'm about to play is the big news.
After this, Alex is going to start teasing the big news without sort of recognizing that he said it at the beginning of the show.
So here is Alex talking about his varsity story of the day, which he will then proceed to fucking tease for the rest of the show.
jordan holmes
This is great.
alex jones
And the huge news that's now at newswars.com and infowars.com.
It's also at drudgereport.com.
Now that Russia collusion is a proven lie, when do the trials for treason begin?
Trump tweets warning to opponents.
And I've got the Hill article here I'm going to read in a moment.
And the control corporate media is already spitting this, like, oh my gosh, he's a dictator.
It's so evil.
No, he said trials.
That means investigations.
That means indictments.
That means jury of your peers.
dan friesen
So, okay.
Here's the thing.
What Alex is responding to is that the Trump Train, a Trump meme Twitter account, tweeted a picture that says exactly what Alex just said.
Now that Russian collusion is a proven lie, when do the trials for treason start?
And it's a picture of all of Alex's big bad guys behind bars.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So they have bars.
And it's a meme.
And Trump retweeted it.
That's what Alex's whole story is.
Trump retweeted a meme, and Alex is like, this is the biggest news in the world.
All my enemies are going to prison.
jordan holmes
So the sitting president of the United States, while president, this is not like before, this is not after.
dan friesen
No, this is a couple days ago.
jordan holmes
This is the actual president of the United States.
Some would say the most powerful man in the world.
dan friesen
I couldn't believe this, so I had to go to Trump's Twitter to confirm for myself that that actually happened.
jordan holmes
So that actually happened.
dan friesen
Oh, you bet it did.
jordan holmes
I want to call an end to America.
I say to you, all of my fellow Americans, we quit.
Let's just dissolve it.
Everybody is their own country now.
dan friesen
That would be great.
We're all sovereign.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're all sovereign.
dan friesen
Shake this shit like an etch of sketch.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex at no point makes clear that what he's talking about is just a retweeted meme.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's saying that Trump is saying that he's going to do these things, which I guess is a generous interpretation of retweeting a meme because Trump doesn't have that thing that journalists have in their Twitter bio where it's like retweets don't equal endorsements.
Right.
Rare.
So it is implied that this is an endorsement of the message.
jordan holmes
I suppose.
dan friesen
But it's different than Trump coming out and being like, now here's the plan, what we're going to do.
I'm going to fucking lock up all these people.
Except for the fact that he's been yelling, lock her up at all of his rallies for the last two years.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I mean.
jordan holmes
And the story came out that he had to be convinced heavily not to try and lock her up.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
So, um, so can you hate that we live in this world?
I do.
I hate that we live in this world, but Dan, it's a dumb thing.
Dan, just for one second, just for one second, imagine, imagine if Obama had retweeted a meme that had like McCain and Fox Gooseberry.
unidentified
Rumsfeld, Rose, people who legitimately deserve to be locked up.
It would be the number one story across the world.
jordan holmes
And I can't.
This one I didn't even know about.
dan friesen
Right, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Obama wore a tan suit, and I couldn't avoid it.
Yep, Trump tweeted a meme.
dan friesen
There was a mustard gate.
jordan holmes
This is insane.
alex jones
Yep.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
That's pretty nuts.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, nope.
Revoked.
dan friesen
Anyway, Jordan, this is the story that Alex is going to make his bread and butter for the day.
And it's interesting because as this clip goes along, I've just paused it.
He's going to keep talking and he brings up something very familiar to us to reinforce his narrative because these individuals are caught red-handed lying to Congress from Comey right down to Hillary.
Cohen just pledged that.
alex jones
They have all been caught involved in Uranium One in this case.
jordan holmes
This is a switch hunt.
alex jones
This is the Seattle ShiComs, everything they blame Trump for.
And they illegally surveilled him when he was a candidate.
jordan holmes
Still not true.
alex jones
They illegally surveilled his every movement when he was the nominee.
jordan holmes
You really don't understand what illegal means.
alex jones
When he was president, it's still ongoing.
And we even had leaked to us.
And notice it got zero news covers because it was real.
dan friesen
No, because it was bullshit.
alex jones
A DEA database that came to us through Maricopa County of a CIA construction.
And guess who was being surveilled right after Obama got into office 10 years ago?
Donald John Trump, his personal phone lines, his personal apartment at Mar-Lago, and I had that number.
Still do.
They've changed it.
And I'm sitting there looking at this database.
That's Trump's private numbers, and they're all being surveilled.
dan friesen
Real quick, if anybody out there hasn't listened to our episode called the Dennis Montgomery Investigation, go back and listen to that.
We spent two hours talking about exactly where this information came from.
It's one of the biggest crux of shit ever.
Dennis Montgomery is a huge con man who is trying to find what you could generously call opposition research on a judge that was trying.
Yes.
jordan holmes
He was trying to find lies that would fit his narrative.
dan friesen
In order to smear him, because the judge was presiding over an investigation of Joe Arpaio in Maricopa County.
The database of people is something that came out of that investigation and has been repackaged as some sort of database of people who were being spied on.
jordan holmes
But it's the same shit.
dan friesen
Yes, absolutely.
You go back and listen to that episode.
We've kind of given a spoiler for that.
But that's what this is.
Alex is now bringing that information back up, which is just a crock of shit.
It's awesome.
It's so awesome to know things.
jordan holmes
If I were running for president, I would have one policy, and that would be Maricopa County is officially kicked out of the United States.
dan friesen
Just build a wall.
alex jones
Yep.
jordan holmes
That's the only wall I believe in, Dan.
dan friesen
There's a lot of great people who live in Maricopa County.
jordan holmes
I know, and they will be given amnesty.
They will be given asylum.
If they would like to leave Maricopa County, that's fine.
You can remain a United States citizen.
But Maricopa County itself is dissolved and no more.
And Arpaio, again, sent to The Hague, where I assume I will be allowed to remove his feet.
dan friesen
It just keeps coming up.
Maricopa County keeps coming up.
jordan holmes
It's the worst.
dan friesen
In terms of like everything we, a lot of stuff we look into seems to trace back to malfeasance in Maricopa County.
So I don't know.
Anyway, like I told you earlier, Jordan, Alex doesn't not talk about how a lot of his friends are in increasingly hot water and seem to be making it worse for themselves.
Seems to be, Coursey had no reason to go on television the other night.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
That was weird.
jordan holmes
Bananas.
dan friesen
So Alex doesn't not talk about it, but this is one of the more confusing things I've ever heard.
And this is the only thing he says about this on the show.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And, you know, Coursey is a heavy hitter, formerly with the State Department, worked for major agencies.
And, you know, Coursey was involved in that.
That's one reason Mueller's so pissed at him.
dan friesen
That's not why.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
And they've been putting the squeeze on Coursey.
And, you know, it's a love-hate relationship with him because, you know, he's been doing some weasel stuff.
Okay.
But I'm going to get to that later.
dan friesen
He says, oh, he doesn't.
alex jones
I'm not going to lie about anything, but we sent out these emails to each other in a cover story because we did have contact with Wikileaks, but then we had no contact with WikiLeaks.
Hey, I was with both of these guys.
Unless they were both lying to me, there was no contact with WikiLeaks.
dan friesen
Alex, I have a very simple explanation for this.
Roger Stone and Jerome Coursey were both lying to you.
That is what was going on there, buddy.
jordan holmes
I think I have an even simpler explanation for this.
Alex, you are lying to us.
dan friesen
You're lying to yourself.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
So according to that, because he doesn't talk about it more, so all I have to do is go from there.
What he seems to be expressing is the idea that Jerome Corsi told him that Roger and Jerome Corsi had come up with the, they'd sent those emails to each other about talking to Assange and about sending Ted Malik to go talk to Assange.
They made those as a cover story for some.
I don't fucking understand.
I have no idea.
This is nonsense.
jordan holmes
They're too.
I mean, as we can see from their actions after this kind of behavior has come to light, they're tactical geniuses, Dan.
dan friesen
There's no doubt about it.
jordan holmes
They created a cover story knowing that this might happen years in advance.
These people are brilliant.
dan friesen
And then deleted all their emails when shit got hot.
Not realizing that all of that was already captured.
jordan holmes
No, no.
Come on.
dan friesen
There's no way that they could have cut under investigation longer than they think.
jordan holmes
If you know anything about Maricopa County, you know that they were under surveillance illegally, Dan.
That's not admissible in court.
dan friesen
Alex has never said that Jerome Coursey was on that database.
Although he was a big part of producing that narrative.
Man, Jerome Coursey was the go-between between Alex Jones and Mike Zulo and Arpaio.
So he was the guy who orchestrated the.
Oh, and Larry Klayman, who is now his lawyer.
jordan holmes
Who's Corsi's lawyer?
He's Coursey's lawyer?
dan friesen
Yeah, the guy who said that Obama was bringing Ebola into the country as an attack on white people.
jordan holmes
Do these guys not know that they're bad at this?
dan friesen
I don't.
I think that they know that they're the only people that they can trust because they're all dirty as hell.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's possible.
dan friesen
They're all in trouble.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, like, the only, like, how is it that Alex can pretend that, like, I can't believe Coursey would lie to me.
Like, what?
Coursey's entire career isn't built around lying to people.
unidentified
I was always told that there's honor among thieves.
dan friesen
Not good, Alex.
Not good.
jordan holmes
Fair.
That actually might be the only argument I would accept.
dan friesen
So Alex, there's no doubt about it.
He's persecuted.
He feels persecuted.
Sure, sure.
And in this next clip, he gets into why he believes he's persecuted.
alex jones
And because we're telling the truth and bringing people together and killing Martin Luther King saying common sense things, but there are only two genders.
We're banned everywhere.
jordan holmes
They're coming after Martin Luther King Jr.
alex jones
They're coming after everything.
My family, you name it.
dan friesen
Okay.
No one's coming after your family.
That's a dispute with your ex-wife.
I think you should probably have enough tact not to blame the globalists for your own relationship issues.
And beyond that, I don't know if Martin Luther King ever gave a speech or is I have a dream that one day they'll recognize there's only two genders.
jordan holmes
Man, there should be some sort of law of like the GOP, get my name out your mouth law.
Like the GOP is not allowed to even mention Martin Luther King Jr. for 50 years.
dan friesen
It'd be nice.
jordan holmes
Moratorium.
dan friesen
Yeah.
My feeling on the matter is like I have zero interest in arguing about whether or not there are two genders.
My position is very clear.
But my position also is that anybody who says that is a shithead because they don't care.
They don't care about whether or not they actually believe that.
It's a troll move.
Alex is engaging in some sort of weird trolling while evoking the name of Martin Luther King and saying that he tells the truth all the time.
jordan holmes
It's just about owning the libs or whatever the fuck it is these assholes do anymore.
dan friesen
Exactly.
And now, the reason that that's important, though, is that in addition to this weird Donald Trump retweeted a meme narrative that's going to pick up some steam here in a minute, the other secondary narrative that Alex seems to be really, it's stuck in his craw is the idea that he does a really bad job of differentiating between people who are trans and people who are cross-dressers.
jordan holmes
You could have just put a period after he does a really bad job.
dan friesen
You bet.
But he conflates the two very confusingly.
Not confusingly.
I'm not super confused.
But to the point where when you listen to it, he's blurring that line intentionally.
So you never really know if he's talking about trans people or cross-dressers.
And it's clear he doesn't really give a shit about the distinction at all.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so it makes it a little difficult to unpack.
I'll try and do my best.
But there's a story that he's trying to cover, and it's about how his version of it is trans people are just trying to groom your children.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So that's his take on it.
The reality of the story is that he found a clip of a cross-dresser who was engaging in this program where they go to libraries and they have cross-dresser story time where kids are shown that cross-dressers aren't weird people, that sort of thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're exposed to a larger world.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So Alex.
jordan holmes
That's a bad idea, Dan.
dan friesen
Alex takes that kernel of a story and turns it into trans people are grooming your kids for sexual assault and that sort of thing.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
Which is rough.
And he gets into it in this next clip.
alex jones
And we've got incredible footage coming up now where the quote trans movement and the drug queen movement, no, it's the sexualization movement of children, is getting up in governmental conferences and saying, we are grooming your kids.
We're taking your kids from you, and we've got to do this.
And we know what we're doing.
We're weird, creepy people who are not going to talk to your kid at a park.
We're going to come into your school that you're locked out of by barbed wire and checkpoints and police.
And we're going to come up to your five-year-olds and we're going to screw them up.
Bad.
dan friesen
So that's ugly.
And the clip in question is someone, I can't remember the person's name, but they're at a city council meeting, and they're explaining how much abuse they've gotten after it was announced that they would be performing or reading to kids at this event.
And they say the word grooming, but the context is very clear about the idea of, as I'm here in front of you, I have 50 people behind me staring daggers into me that all hate me.
And what we're trying to do is groom the next generation to not be so intolerant.
Right.
That is very clearly the message.
jordan holmes
See all these people behind me filled with hate?
We're trying to make a next generation that isn't those guys.
dan friesen
And if you watch the video, which I did, you see when this person says, these people all hate me, you see a couple people nod behind them.
So great.
It is.
jordan holmes
Could work human race.
dan friesen
It's not just something that they're projecting into the world.
Like, I think everyone hates me.
It is very clear that this audience, it's a very brave act that they did.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
To go to the city council meeting and say, we are people.
We're, you know, this is, there's, there's nothing about the idea that maybe I do burlesque or something like that in a nightclub doesn't mean I can't talk to kids.
I'm an adult.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
I know how to, you know, filter.
I believe the exact quote is I know how to filter what I present to people.
Right.
And it's just, it's maddening.
It's exactly what you'd expect from Alex.
But just because the word grooming was used, he latched onto it and turned it into a they all want to just fuck your kids.
jordan holmes
You know, it's amazing to me that this whole thing has spiraled out of the real complaint that most of these people have, which is just like, I don't want to have to think about being offensive.
Like the real issue is like, I don't want to have to think about calling them they or whatever.
I'd say he or she.
Like that's it's a five-minute delay.
Like this is people angry about the train being late and then being like, and now I'm going to demonize a whole group of people.
dan friesen
I don't want to like the discomfort of someone possibly correcting a politeness mistake.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's very snowflakey on the level of Laura Loomer fucking handcuffing herself to a door.
jordan holmes
It's actually because she's Jewish.
dan friesen
That's true.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's not true.
So speaking of pedophiles, imagined or real, the last one, imagined, the next one, real.
alex jones
Dennis Haster three big articles out of the Miami Herald and other papers about a big investigative piece about how bipartisan groups, both Republicans and Democrats, work to protect Jeffrey Epstein, who is running a giant child kidnapping rape ring.
Robert Mueller was also involved that that came out that he was an informant to Mueller for years.
That's why Epstein only spent a few months in prison.
Cops worked to put Epstein in prison.
Prosecutors worked to cut him a break.
And then the news will only report on it because a future Trump cabinet member gave serial sex abuser deal of a lifetime, which is true.
And that just shows how Trump's got to do more vetting about who he brings in.
The Democrat connections of Bill Clinton on the airplanes is just incredible.
jordan holmes
Wasn't Trump on those airplanes as well?
dan friesen
That's one of the weird things that Alex doesn't want to.
jordan holmes
He doesn't really mention that, huh?
dan friesen
So Alex is really out of line in his coverage of this story here.
The Miami Herald story about Jeffrey Epstein that came out this week is a harrowing look at how a well-connected billionaire can abuse and rape dozens of underage girls, then put together a legal team with assholes like Alan Dershowitz and Ken Starr on it, and end up getting away basically scot-free.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
One of the major takeaways from the story, however, is that Alexander Acosta, then the U.S. attorney in Miami, was instrumental in negotiating a lenient sentence for Epstein when the police and detectives had put together a case that could put him away for life.
The reason that that's important is that Acosta is Trump's secretary of labor, which gives him oversight over international child labor laws and human trafficking.
The Herald article points out that he's even been floated as a possible replacement for Sessions as Attorney General.
Although, who knows how realistic that is.
And someone's name being floated doesn't mean they're going to be it.
While this is an element that's been perhaps underreported in the past, Epstein's connection to both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump has not been a secret.
Both men had associated with Epstein regularly in the past, and Epstein's home in Palm Beach is real close to Mar-a-Lago.
Now, as for Mueller, he has no connection here, past the fact that he was the head of the FBI at the time when Epstein was being investigated.
This could indicate some involvement on Mueller's part in not pursuing the case in a manner that the facts merited.
That's definitely a possibility, but that hasn't been proven.
As is always the case in terms of things like this, Alex is just making shit up.
The most I could find was a heavily redacted FBI memo that came out that said that he had provided some information to the FBI and that was that he was cooperating in Florida.
That doesn't mean that he's a longtime informant.
That doesn't mean that he was even an informant.
Alex later in this episode goes so far as to say that Mueller was videotaping people who underage girls in order to blackmail them and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
It seems aggressive.
dan friesen
It seems like Jacob Wall-style libel.
jordan holmes
That's very unfounded at best.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And it's so ugly for him to take an innocuous comment about trying to make the next generation more tolerant of people who are different than them and turn that into grooming of children and then here to be so sort of wishy-washy about the real facts of a story, like a story about a guy who was a monster.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is a story about billionaires having a completely different legal system.
It's not a story about any, it's not a side story.
No, this is, and everybody should accept that this is wrong in every possible way.
And we need to start seriously fucking putting billionaires away in prison for life.
And not a good prison.
dan friesen
No, and if you can show and demonstrate that Bill Clinton was involved in this further than just being associated with him, put him in.
jordan holmes
Put him in.
dan friesen
And Donald Trump, same thing.
Any of those people put him in.
jordan holmes
Put them all in.
dan friesen
Anybody who was associating him, it doesn't fucking matter.
jordan holmes
A woman got eight years in prison for voting that she didn't even know she couldn't.
dan friesen
It's wild.
jordan holmes
That's a real thing.
dan friesen
And it's not a trivial matter that this guy, Acosta, Alexander Acosta, was involved in this and is now the labor secretary.
That's a fucking.
jordan holmes
It almost seems connected in some way.
Not like a one-to-one connection, meaning that because of this, Trump trust him.
But it's more along the lines of like, by doing this favor for a billionaire, you get shit.
You get connections.
You get all this kind of shit.
dan friesen
For us to say that would be conspiratorial, but boy, does it fuel our work?
So anyway, Alex doesn't delve any deeper into this story than he's there.
jordan holmes
It's Clinton.
It's Clinton.
It's all Clinton.
Don't worry about anybody else who was on Epstein's planes ever.
Don't worry about Trump's literal quote saying he likes him young.
dan friesen
He's a fun guy to hang out with.
He sure likes his women young.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, like, it would be one thing if he just sort of tried to do the deflection of this story like that.
Like he always does.
Like, Bill Clinton's on the planes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, whatever.
But to then also have like a third of your show be about how this drag queen wants to groom your kids and stuff like that, it's just distasteful.
Like, it really, it's, I know, I know Alex Jones' entire show is distasteful, but it's a different brand of distasteful when it's so like emotionally manipulative.
Because that is such an issue that people are triggered by.
Yeah.
And rightfully so.
It's something that's very, it's a soft spot for a lot of people protecting children and that sort of thing.
jordan holmes
So I just it gets your it gets your lizard brain hackles up and it keeps you from using any form of higher thought.
dan friesen
Yeah, it overrides rationality.
jordan holmes
It's why pedophilia is almost always in some way, like just like with blood libel and all that shit.
They're always coming for your women or your kids.
dan friesen
We'll get to that in a little bit.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
But before we- Are they coming for your white women now, too?
dan friesen
I don't want to, I don't want to.
jordan holmes
You're going to tip your hands.
dan friesen
I don't want to tip your hands on it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, all right.
dan friesen
I got you.
But I do want to tell you that Alex Jones is a big announcement here.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I will say that this is so fucking hilarious.
alex jones
By the way, I'm about two weeks overdue not announcing the meme contest winner, $10,000 NPC meme winner.
I will announce it at the end of the show today, I promise.
And we're going to play the piece.
So one winner, $10,000.
Congratulations.
We'll announce the other show.
I always do the contest and I always pay out on the contest, but it's usually late because I get so busy.
jordan holmes
Is it?
alex jones
Usually because we get so many entries.
dan friesen
And the meme's dead.
alex jones
How about we know you put any money on the table for this?
How about everybody sends it to showtipsinfowars.com or post on your own Facebook, Twitter, your own website.
Other variants of now that Russia collusion is a proven lie, when do the trials for treason begin?
dan friesen
So now he just wants people for free to make new versions of the meme that Trump retweeted.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
This is wild stuff.
jordan holmes
My days as a freelance writer are coming back to me real hard.
dan friesen
I honestly didn't think that I thought for sure he would just forget about the NPC meme thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I had forgotten about that.
jordan holmes
That disappeared two days after he announced the contest.
dan friesen
Right.
He had that dude on who was like, ah, that meme is going to be gone soon.
jordan holmes
All memes go away.
That's because they're memes.
dan friesen
It was so hilarious to be listening to this show and then he brings that up.
jordan holmes
I'm like, what?
Does he announce the winner?
dan friesen
I didn't hear it.
I always turn it off.
jordan holmes
He made me just not even do it.
dan friesen
I always turn it off in the fourth hour when someone else is about to take over.
alex jones
Gotcha.
dan friesen
I don't care about his fill.
I don't want to listen to Anthony Kumia fucking dog.
jordan holmes
Anthony Kumia does InfoWars?
dan friesen
He does the fourth hour every other Thursday.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, for a while.
jordan holmes
How's our boy picture painting guy?
dan friesen
Well, John Rappaport, the last time I checked, has a tighter shot going.
You can't see the weirdo.
jordan holmes
We don't know for sure whether or not the picture has been hung.
dan friesen
Can neither confirm nor deny it.
But I also generally turn it off even when he's on because I don't know.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Of course.
I'm not interested in Rappaport at all.
He's lost.
I am only interested in this picture and its storyline.
dan friesen
So there's a lot of news in the world.
We've touched on some of the issues, but there's even more news.
jordan holmes
I've heard there's some news.
dan friesen
One of the stories that had broke this week is that GM is closing a bunch of their plants, which is in direct contradiction of the things that no jobs are coming back.
So here is Alex deflecting on that story.
alex jones
GM's moving to China with five plants.
They posted record profits after we bailed them out 10 years ago.
jordan holmes
Ooh.
alex jones
And they're such globalists that they shut down plants in key areas where Trump pledged to keep them open, not because they're not making money, but because they hate this country.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
alex jones
Man, I got to tell you, folks.
jordan holmes
There's one thing I know about corporations.
alex jones
They love the globalists.
They're unbelievable.
You know, they're trying to shut us down financially.
jordan holmes
Turn it.
alex jones
When you financially do us by getting great products you already need, it's just not at 360 win, and that's why I thank you all for your support.
And I want to remind you all: without you, we're not going to be here.
And the biggest thing is go get an InfoWars.com t-shirt.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
That's the biggest thing.
dan friesen
That's the biggest thing.
jordan holmes
Go get an Infowars.com T-shirt.
dan friesen
Currently, there's free shipping store-wide.
Everything is 50% to 70% off.
And Alex is constantly saying we need to get everything out of the warehouse.
jordan holmes
If there's anything I know about business, that's a sign of a successful business.
dan friesen
I know that when you want an empty warehouse, you are going to refill that warehouse.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Whenever you see like, you know, a car dealership that's got a fire sale.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That means they're doing it.
jordan holmes
It makes perfect sense.
Yeah, yeah.
Have you ever been by a mattress store, Dan?
dan friesen
Everything's got to go.
jordan holmes
Everything's got to go, but that's because they're so successful.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And then two months later, you go by, oh, sales ended because now it's a sandwich shop.
Yeah, exactly.
Not great, Alex.
jordan holmes
We got to get all this stuff out of our warehouse.
It's becoming 18 yogurt shops.
dan friesen
Kind of giving away a little bit of what's going on there.
Revealing too much.
Dad.
So, like I said, the big news is Trump retweeted a meme.
jordan holmes
I really don't like that.
That's a thing that you just said.
I don't like that sentence existing.
dan friesen
We already know that.
But as the second hour of the show starts, Alex doesn't realize he's already told the whole story.
And so he tries to tease it.
unidentified
Oh, no.
alex jones
You know, I just made a decision.
I'm going to give you ultra-massive news two weeks before it comes out yet again.
I'm going to throw down the gauntlet and I'm going to.
I'm going to go ahead and drop some major intel on you that I've got from multiple sources on the other side.
But first, here's part of John Bound's report.
All I want for Christmas is Hillary in prison.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Moving on.
Don't give a fuck, Bound.
dan friesen
Now, that seems weird that he'd be like, I'm about to give you two weeks' news ahead of time.
jordan holmes
Isn't the news that he tweeted?
He retweeted something.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, but it is.
jordan holmes
How can that come out in two weeks?
dan friesen
Well, because it's the content of the meme, Alex is saying, is what's going to happen.
Trump is going to try these people for a while.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Okay.
dan friesen
He's acting like that meme is an announcement of Trump saying it's go time on these people, as opposed to it just being a continuation of his, hey, guys, this is what I'm going to do.
Keep liking me.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Lock her up.
dan friesen
Hey, trade the swamp.
Sure.
That sort of shit.
It's all just a con game that Alex is playing into because he gets a cut.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's sleight of hand.
Look over here.
Look over here.
dan friesen
So I was confused just momentarily about why he does this, like, I'm going to do this big reveal.
Oh, here's a John Bound report.
And then I remembered, oh, yeah, Alex's clock works in a certain way where the first six minutes of each hour goes to the local stations.
So it's not even broadcast out.
So he's just burying John Bound's reports here.
It doesn't even play on the radio.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
The local stations get to do like news and weather at the top of the hour and then get back to his show.
So he's just pimping out his own employees.
It's great.
jordan holmes
Love it.
Love it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Hey, employees of InfoWars, y'all getting fucked too.
jordan holmes
Also, I don't think you can say that something titled All I Want for Christmas dot dot dot is a report.
dan friesen
No, it's Hillary Clinton.
jordan holmes
I don't think you could say op-ed piece, maybe?
dan friesen
He wants Hillary Clinton in prison.
It's a hard-hitting report.
Hard-hitting news.
jordan holmes
I really don't think so.
I bet it's not written well either.
dan friesen
No, All the White House press corps was asking Trump when he was out there getting into Air Force One or whatever.
They were like, hey, what does John Bowe want for Christmas?
jordan holmes
Hard-hitting news.
Have you read this recent report?
It reads, All I Want for Christmas is, you know what?
Never mind.
We're going to let this one go.
dan friesen
Helen Thomas came back from the grave.
She was asking, what does John Bow want for Christmas?
jordan holmes
If there's anything I know about hard-hitting reporting that I learned on the knee of Woodward and Bernstein themselves, it's that all good reporting begins with, what do you want for Christmas?
dan friesen
Upton Sinclair wrote a tell-o-muck-raking book about the things that John Bao did not want for Christmas.
unidentified
Number one on that list, Hillary Clinton not in prison.
jordan holmes
Every night, every night, Edward R. Murrow would sign off with, thank you very much, and all I want for Christmas is for you to have a good night.
dan friesen
We could do this for an hour, but Alex needs to tease his big news more.
alex jones
Now, let me do this.
I have a lot of interesting sources, and I was getting this information a few weeks ago, and then I saw in congressional hearings and in statements made movement.
And then the president's tweet this morning crystallized it all that I needed to talk about this.
And I was thinking about breaking down what's about to happen.
And then I got another message from an individual I know that has amazing sources saying the exact same thing.
And remember, you know, I told you the day after Vegas from the hostage rescue team that he'd been to the Middle East, the room was full of ISIS and al-Qaeda paraphernalia, that he'd been a gun runner, and that there were other shooters.
And all that later came out.
And over a year later, they still don't give out an official statement.
dan friesen
Okay, I just want to say this real fucking quick.
It is important to note that Alex not knowing that the police put out a report on the Las Vegas shooting is not the same thing as them not putting out a report on the shooting.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
dan friesen
On August 3rd, 2018.
jordan holmes
Ignorance is an excuse, right?
dan friesen
On August 3rd, 2018, the Las Vegas Police Department put out a 187-page final report summing up their investigation.
jordan holmes
187 damn on a motherfucking shooting numerology.
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Paul Eddie Bravo.
They put out this report summing up their investigation into Steven Paddock and his terrorist attack.
The report specifically says, quote, while en route to the scene, many investigators heard multiple chaotic emergency-only radio calls coming out in reference to active shooters at different properties along the Las Vegas Strip, fires breaking out at certain properties, actual shooters that were inside the Las Vegas Village venue at the time of the shooting.
Early reporting from national news outlets reported that ISIS was claiming responsibility for the shooting.
The investigation revealed none of this information was accurate.
Alex is operating off rumor and hearsay that got misreported in the chaos that unfolded after this terrorist attack began.
It's one of the difficulties of our more connected world that bad actors or well-intentioned people with erroneous information can get their inaccurate messages out.
And then the media can be called liars and cover-up artists because they don't keep reporting those messages after they've been shown to be false.
The report goes on to say, quote, Paddock acted alone.
Despite early reports of multiple shooters in different locations, no evidence exists to substantiate any of those reports.
Thousands of hours of digital media were reviewed.
And after all the interviews were conducted, no evidence exists that indicates Paddock conspired with or acted in collusion with anyone else.
This includes video surveillance, recovered DNA, and analysis of cell phones and computers belonging to Haddock.
There's no evidence of radicalization or ideology to support any theory that Paddock supported or followed any hate group or any domestic or foreign terrorist organization.
Everything Alex is saying is based on conspiracy bullshit that came out in the immediate aftermath of the shooting and things that were amplified by his own associates like Steve Pieczenik, Infowars contributor Shepard Ambellis, and Alex's fake intelligence source, Zach.
None of this is real.
Alex is saying, like, you know I got these awesome sources.
You remember how I told you all this shit about Las Vegas that I probably saw on 4chan and then reported and then pretended that everyone was covering up after the fact?
jordan holmes
He was having debates.
dan friesen
It's nonsense, man.
It's really crazy that that's what he's using as his barometer of credibility.
jordan holmes
Have you ever noticed that legitimate news outlets don't use the term amazing sources?
They just call them sources.
Like, you don't.
There's no such thing.
You can't have an amazing source.
He uses this.
Other than if it was like Miss Marvel.
dan friesen
He uses the same sort of strategy that he does about his sales when he's trying to sell his credibility.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What are you talking about, amazing sources?
You've just got a guy, if that.
dan friesen
I got free shipping on credibility.
Also, Shepard Ambellis, the guy who came in, was talking about how they were shooting from helicopters and stuff like that in the Las Vegas shooting.
He also made a documentary about chemtrails that I really have been meaning to watch.
jordan holmes
Oh, that is an amazing source, though.
dan friesen
I read a review of it, and it is fucking scathing.
He made it along with...
unidentified
Boo!
dan friesen
He made it along with Alex Jones' employee, Jason Burmes.
jordan holmes
God.
dan friesen
And one of the experts is Alex Jones' employee, Anthony Gucciarti, who's no longer an employee.
jordan holmes
Can they just wear name tags that say whether they're stupid or evil?
That's all I want.
I just want them to wear a name tag where I'm like, oh, you're just dumb.
You're not evil.
Or somebody who's just like, or even like a chaotic evil.
Just like, just give me some sort of D and D range of ideology here.
That's all I need.
dan friesen
That'd be nice.
Also, I'm sorry, I got off track.
I needed to say something about the GM plants closing.
Oh, yeah, that's important.
Because Alex said that it was because they hated America.
But if that were the case, it's kind of hard to explain why some of the plants they're closing are in Canada and South Korea, which kind of doesn't track with the trying to punish America thing.
jordan holmes
Canada's North America, and what is South Korea but America like?
dan friesen
That's fair.
According to GM, the move is essentially about trying to make the business more flexible moving into the future, as traditional automobiles are less appealing to consumers.
It really sucks that they're laying off thousands of employees, but it's not rooted in a hatred of America.
It's rooted in a fear that another auto crash might be coming and a desire to get ahead of it.
Sales of sedans have been slipping pretty seriously for a long time now.
Ford announced in April that they would end production on all sedans by the end of 2018.
Apple, Uber, and Tesla are all working on the next generation of transportation with self-driving cars and what have you.
So the auto industry is coming to the realization that they're not up against the normal market forces that they're used to and that Silicon Valley is poised to all but make their products obsolete.
It's all bullshit.
Like, it's all terrible.
This is awful.
People should be not being treated like this, the employees and what have you.
But because of the show we do, the most important thing that bears mentioning is that Alex is full of shit.
It says nothing to do with Trump or punishing America or anything like that.
It's an unfortunate, I mean, it's just capitalism.
jordan holmes
I did hear that GM was opening a bunch of coal mines, though.
Yeah, so they're bringing back coal, John.
dan friesen
That is true.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
They needed to give a little handout to Trump.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Here you go, buddy.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
That's what they're doing.
dan friesen
Sorry, that was a little out of order, but it bared mentioning just because Alex is so full of shit.
jordan holmes
What is it going to take for Trump voters to realize that everything he sold them was a lie?
dan friesen
Probably nothing.
I mean, it's not going to work.
jordan holmes
If your argument against GM closing shit is just like they did it because they hate America, then that argument never fails.
dan friesen
Totally.
That's why I'm saying it's never going to happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's insane.
Shouldn't at some point you'd be like, well, that doesn't make sense.
dan friesen
I doubt it.
I doubt that day is going to come.
unidentified
Jesus.
dan friesen
You can't.
jordan holmes
And they are dumb.
dan friesen
You can't dump.
jordan holmes
They're just.
dan friesen
It's like the old saying: you can't fool all the people all the time, but about 30% you can fool all the time.
jordan holmes
You can fool 99.99% of the time because they're just fucking dumb.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So we already know what Alex's big narrative is.
I've already spelled this out.
There's a little bit of finer points to here and there.
jordan holmes
Let's reiterate his big narrative is a retweet.
dan friesen
And the ramifications of that retweet that he's pretending come from sources and what have you.
jordan holmes
Amazing sources.
dan friesen
Amazing sources.
So you already know that.
But if you didn't know that, this would be incredibly frustrating.
He comes in and says, I'm going to tell you two weeks' news ahead of time.
He's like, I'm going to reveal all this news.
Oh, I'm going to cock block you with John Bound's report.
He comes back, starts talking about how big the news is, and then starts talking about how he was right about Vegas.
It's the same game he always plays, and then he gets to this.
jordan holmes
And you just don't appreciate edging the way a lot of people do.
All right.
It's a perfectly fine masturbatory practice.
dan friesen
Well, get ready to get teased more.
alex jones
I always tend to just blurt out the big giant news when I feel like it's the right time to do it.
You already did.
I always say, coming up next hour.
Then I start saying what I'm going to cover next hour.
I just want to get it out there.
But stuff like this is so big that I really should wait till tomorrow to tell you.
Instead of just saying, hey, here it is.
And then I give people incredible information and it's just like, ah, big deal.
And then it comes true in a week or two, and there's not even any press coverage of it.
And it's not about me getting attention or credit.
It's about they're trying to say I'm a liar.
dan friesen
You are.
alex jones
They're trying to say I'm wrong all the time.
They're trying to say I've done all these things I haven't done, that I'm calling for violence.
jordan holmes
You probably are.
And you probably killed a guy.
alex jones
I'm not going to show you that we know what we're talking about.
dan friesen
He rambles a bunch more.
I mean, you're right.
It is just sort of fake news edging.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I think he's realizing as he talks, he's like, this is not good.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is soft.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, we're going to get to the big news.
We're going to get to the big news.
But, you know, but I think a lot of people just don't believe us.
I want to say the big news, but I think I should wait on it.
dan friesen
I need more press.
jordan holmes
Oh, we're going to bring this big news to a head.
You're just going to get that big news all out of you.
You're just going to rub that big news machine and it's going to spray out of everywhere.
dan friesen
If I really commit to this, Dan is going to realize that this was just something Trump retweeted.
I'm going to be embarrassed as fuck.
I'm sure that's not his thought process.
jordan holmes
I think it would be nice if it was.
dan friesen
So here he sort of reveals what the news is.
alex jones
This is very important because I'm not just going to tell you what's going to come out in the next two weeks.
Now, it could change.
They could decide not to do it.
Word is Trump's going to go ahead and let the dogs loose.
In fact, the dogs have been told you're off the chain.
Who?
Who told us two weeks ago?
jordan holmes
Who let the dogs out?
alex jones
You're seeing what's going on here.
President's tweeting that he's going to have their asses locked up.
dan friesen
It's a retweet of a man.
alex jones
And they sure as hell deserve it.
dan friesen
So the dogs are off the chain, which is something that Alex has said about 100 times so far in the time that we've been covering him.
He says it all the fucking time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, the idea.
jordan holmes
So far, they are ineffective dogs.
They are at best.
dan friesen
Did you ever see?
Of course you didn't see this.
There was a Kennel from Hell match, I believe was the name of it.
Of course I didn't see that.
jordan holmes
So in the Kennel from Hell match?
dan friesen
Let me tell you about that.
jordan holmes
What did Michael Vick run that one?
Right.
References to 10 years ago.
dan friesen
This was before that.
Okay.
This was in the WWF, back when it was the WWF.
There was a match between the big boss.
jordan holmes
So it was run by the World Wildlife Foundation.
dan friesen
Yes.
It was a match between the big boss man and this guy named Al Snow.
Al Snow's character is he was a lunatic.
And he, for most of his career, talked to a foam head called Head.
It was just a big joke about the oral sex being called Head.
His theme music would be like, who wants some head?
And he'd come out with the big mannequin doll head.
jordan holmes
Anyway, subtlety is important.
dan friesen
It's less important.
I believe, if I recall correctly, the only reason he ended up with the mannequin head was because he used to have a dog, a little dog that he would bring along with him and he would talk to because he was crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The big boss man invited him to a dinner at a hotel room.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, he ate his dog.
dan friesen
He fed him his dog.
jordan holmes
He fed him his dog?
That's crazy.
dan friesen
So he made Al Snow eat his dog.
jordan holmes
Now, I don't understand Kayfabe rules entirely, but he didn't actually make him eat his dog, right?
It's probably steak.
Do we have independent confirmation that he didn't eat his own dog?
dan friesen
I think it would have been a lawsuit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Well, that's why they aren't called the WWF anymore.
dan friesen
So the big boss man makes Al Snow eat his dog.
And in response to this, Al Snow ends up challenging him to a kennel from hell match.
Okay.
Which is the ring, right?
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And then there is a steel cage around.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And in the outside of the cage, there's a bunch of dogs.
So the idea of.
jordan holmes
Oh, I get it.
If one of them gets thrown out of the cage, they're going to get eaten by dogs.
It will be an ironic punishment.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
It's the old idea of a lumberjack match where you have a bunch of wrestlers outside the ring, and if you get thrown out, they all beat you up.
They were kind of hoping that what would happen is people would get attacked by dogs if they get thrown out of the ring.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But the dogs didn't play along.
They were just shitting.
jordan holmes
That's like the word.
dan friesen
They didn't attack you.
jordan holmes
Dogs love people.
dan friesen
It ended up being one of the more embarrassing things that the WWF ever did, which is saying something.
jordan holmes
Goddamn World Wildlife Federation.
dan friesen
The reason I say this, the reason I bring this up is that those are the sort of dogs that are apparently Donald Trump's.
jordan holmes
They're just shitting around.
Yeah, basically.
I gotcha.
dan friesen
So, I mean, basically what he's saying is the news is that, you know, Hillary's going to prison, lock her up, all that stuff.
He says that he's going to get into what they're going to do to respond.
He doesn't really.
He just says that there's going to be false flags, which is, again, something he says all the fucking time.
None of this is new at all.
jordan holmes
Here's the other.
Here's what frustrates me so much about these fucking idiots.
Okay.
So we do lock her up.
Then fucking what?
dan friesen
I don't think he's gone that far.
jordan holmes
Like, none of them have.
None of them think about the next step.
They just do this thing where they want this thing.
Like, after her dumb, dumb, dumb fuck shit that she said about how one of the ways that we get out of this extremist thing is we deport more people or whatever it is.
She's fucking stupid.
At this point, like...
dan friesen
Fight nationalism by...
jordan holmes
Yeah, by deporting.
dan friesen
Doing what they want you to do.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Like, okay, okay, Hillary, fine.
You know what?
I'm throwing you to the locker-up dogs.
I don't give a shit.
Get locked up.
But it doesn't change anything, even for them.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Like, what good does it do anyway?
dan friesen
It actually does them bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They need to maintain Big Ben.
Basically, of.
Yeah.
You have a lot of.
You can get a lot of mileage out of wanting to lock her up.
You get much less out of actually doing it.
jordan holmes
It would be so disappointing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It'd be a very ruined orgasm, as they say in the pornographic worlds that you're alluding to.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
It's not a pornographic thing, Dan.
You can just do it on your own.
Oh, that's true.
Spend all day.
unidentified
You build up imagination.
jordan holmes
I have no idea what I'm doing here.
unidentified
Mm-mm.
dan friesen
So all this news is just nothing.
It's just either rehashing of things that have been a theme of Trump's campaign rallies for all of the time that he's been doing them, or just Alex projecting things that he imagines are the case until he says this as he's going out to break.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
And I have a lot of thoughts about that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
The point is that all of her emails are about to get released.
You know, the 35,000?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, and a bunch of other stuff about Robert Mueller.
And Coney and all you criminals.
Get ready, scumbags.
dan friesen
Alex, the reason all of your friends are in trouble right now is because they publicly indicated that they knew about things that were coming out before anyone should have known that they came out.
You just did something that you better fucking hope.
If those emails do come out, you better fucking hope that you know that the provenance of those emails is clean.
Because if not, that clip is playing in court.
I don't know what's going to happen in the future.
I don't know if all of her erased emails are going to come out.
I imagine a lot of them are exactly what she says they were, like planning yoga meetings or whatever.
Sure.
I'm sure a bulk of them are that.
Maybe you'll find a couple things that are suspicious in there, too.
I have no idea.
But I do know that, Alex, you fucked up.
No matter what the case is, you fucked up.
Right there.
Right there.
You fucked up.
Should not have said that.
jordan holmes
I will never understand what these guys think.
dan friesen
The only crime.
jordan holmes
I don't know what they think is a crime.
dan friesen
The only way that clip right there isn't a fuck up is if nothing happens.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Like if these emails never come out, which most likely nothing will happen.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
Or I guess there is, you know, I guess there's a world where the emails do come out and they were, the FBI had them or something like that.
And someone in the FBI told him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's possible.
unidentified
Sure.
But if those emails were hacked, oh, shit.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
Alex.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
You're in trouble.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There's no consequences for these people other than just infuriating me.
dan friesen
Well, that's what the show is about.
Speaking of which, here's this next clip.
alex jones
We know about the fraudulent polls and all the rest of it.
We saw massive election fraud and people voting the names of dead people, illegal aliens publicly voting.
unidentified
Stop it!
alex jones
Democrats stealing elections.
jordan holmes
Stop it!
alex jones
Trump really won.
We really won.
jordan holmes
No!
alex jones
That's the sentiment.
It's what the bots and the numbers are really showing.
It's why the globalists are panicking.
And all over the world, nationalists are winning.
From Brazil to Germany to the UK.
dan friesen
Oh, there is some sort of international nationalism that's so this is something that I wanted to get into a tiny bit on the show, which we haven't really.
Alex has a number of times talked about how Brazil, a nationalist, has won, and he's a Trump kind of guy.
He's even said.
jordan holmes
No, he's a fascist dictator kind of guy.
dan friesen
And it's real fucked up that Alex is including Jer Bolsonaro as one of his positive signs of candidates winning internationally.
jordan holmes
Hey, for a number of reasons.
Listen, he is so hideous, I wouldn't even rape him.
dan friesen
Well, we're going to get to that.
jordan holmes
By the way, that is not a thing.
dan friesen
That's an easy thing.
jordan holmes
That's a reference to something he literally said.
dan friesen
About a congressperson.
jordan holmes
About a congressperson.
dan friesen
We'll get to that.
The first issue that I have with Alex being into Bolsonaro is that he came to power in what is very clearly a right-wing coup, where his predecessor, Lulo, was jailed on trumped-up corruption charges by a judge named Sergio Moro, who would then go on to be made minister of justice as soon as Bolsonaro became president.
jordan holmes
That sounds crazy.
There's no way that that would happen.
dan friesen
That stink of corruption is enough for anyone to be suspicious, but the reality of who Jerry Bolsonaro is should really frighten people who care about human rights.
Here are just some of the things that make him a real shithead.
In 2017, he said of black settlement in Brazil, quote, they do nothing.
They're not even good for procreation.
He referred to black activists as animals who should, quote, go back to the zoo.
In 2014, he said, quote, I wouldn't rape you because you don't deserve it, to Congresswoman Maria Do Rosario on the floor of Congress.
He later clarified, saying he's not a rapist, but wouldn't rape Rosario because she's ugly and, quote, not his type.
jordan holmes
Clarified.
Clarified.
It's very nice of him to clarify that he's a monster.
dan friesen
He promised to, quote, end activism in Brazil, saying of his political opponents, quote, either they go overseas or they go to jail.
These red outlaws will be banished from our homeland.
It will be a cleanup the likes of which has never been seen in Brazilian history, which is saying a lot.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Considering Brazilians' history?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He said in an interview with Playboy that he would, quote, be uncapable of loving a homosexual son.
I would prefer my son to die in an accident than show up with a mustachioed man.
He had criticism.
jordan holmes
What about like a clean-shaven dude, though?
unidentified
Who knows?
dan friesen
Or goatee?
He had this criticism of the military dictatorship that ruled Brazil from 1964 to 1985.
jordan holmes
Didn't murder enough.
dan friesen
Quote, the mistake was to torture but not kill.
He later made it very blunt, saying, quote, I'm pro-torture and the people are too.
He said, quote, you won't change anything in this country through voting.
Nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
Unfortunately, you'll only change things by having a civil war and doing the work the military regime didn't do.
Killing 30,000, starting with former President Ferdinando Henrique Cardoso.
Killing.
If a few innocent people die, that's all right.
Since being elected, Bolsonaro has cracked down on his political opponents under the guise of purging leftists from the country.
There have been numerous reports of government officials showing up at universities and confiscating materials deemed to be leftist.
Quote, according to Lias Doneda, a PhD student who teaches linguistics and professors, among the taboo subjects is anything related to inequality or the factors that cause it, because that could be seen as a critique of capitalism and misrepresented as supporting so-called Marxist ideology.
unidentified
We live in an era of a witch hunt.
jordan holmes
So if Alex is into this guy, if anybody has been paying attention to Brazilian politics in the past five years, it is one of the more like, I guess, I guess a tragic thing.
dan friesen
Very.
jordan holmes
That's ever like if you're if you're watching and we're watching the end of a democracy, that's what you like.
If we're in the end of a democracy right now, we saw the end of a democracy happen in five years in Brazil.
dan friesen
And he has some culpability for it, too.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, hey, come on.
We're capitalists.
Of course we're going to support the...
What are we going to support those...
Those people who care about the poor?
Come on.
Come on, Dan.
Billionaires need slightly more money.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, it's such a mess.
And the fact that Alex is so uninterested in any of these things, like, I mean, sure, I understand the idea of not caring that he's a misogynist, homophobe, racist asshole.
I understand that to some extent from Alex's position.
jordan holmes
Because he is a misogynist, racist asshole.
dan friesen
Right.
I understand that to a degree from him, but I can't understand the idea of Alex if he knew the sort of things that he's doing in terms of the, like, making Sergio Moro the minister of justice, the idea of cracking down on these universities and saying they can't teach X, Y, or Z thing.
Like, I don't understand why Alex would be okay with that.
It indicates a lack of any knowledge, or he is totally fine with fascism as long as it's his kind.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would go with the second one.
dan friesen
I think that we're seeing.
jordan holmes
I mean, if he supports Maureen Le Pen, I think we actually have him legally supporting a legal fascist.
dan friesen
Hey, we're going to get to that in a little bit, too.
jordan holmes
Course we are.
dan friesen
So now at this point in the show, Alex Jones has a guest.
And this is one of the other reasons why I thought it would be fitting for us to cover this episode because this guest is a big problem.
alex jones
The establishment is making its move on our children.
Faith Goldie, Faith!
No!
Faith Goldie!
And of course, she's worked with a lot of other great folks like Laura Southern and others at The Rebel.
And she's freelancing right now.
Faith, thanks for coming.
She got fired.
It's great to see you.
unidentified
Thanks for having me back on, Alex.
dan friesen
I hadn't listened to a ton of Faith Goldie talking, and I didn't realize you'll hear this as she talks a little bit, but we're not going to listen to too much of her.
But she basically sounds like she's doing an Ancoulter impression.
It's crazy how much of the verbal patterns are very similar.
Faith Goldie is someone who's running for politics in Canada.
It's really interesting.
There was an article in the cut that came out recently that was written by someone that she went to school with that was trying to sort of figure out how the person that she knew in high school could be the person who exists now.
It was actually a really interesting article.
I recommend people read it because it talks about how she went from being this really friendly, outgoing, magnanimous, weed-smoking, helping younger people should have people over and answer questions about relationships and alcohol and things like that.
In her senior year, she was in a production of the Laramie Project, had a candlelight vigil for Matthew Shepard, that sort of thing.
unidentified
Really?
dan friesen
And then now has become this white nationalist neo-Nazi who shows up on shows like Red Ice, shows up on shows and recites the 14 words.
That's not good.
And these sorts of things, how does one bridge that gap?
It's crazy.
It's really interesting.
I recommend people read it.
It's more than I can really get into.
In this next clip, Faith and Alex have a little bit of a talk about what they're most interested in, and they reveal where their positions lie.
unidentified
And Alex, you're 100% right in saying that we're ultimately the ones who are going to have to pay for it.
We're going to have to pay for it, not just demographically with the changes we're going to sustain, but psychologically, economically.
dan friesen
That's the problems of immigration.
We're going to have to pay for it demographically.
There's going to be people not like us around.
Blah.
Shouldn't be saying stuff like this.
So in this next clip, they talk about, yeah, they just shout a bunch of Islamophobic nonsense.
But at the end of this clip, Alex has a complaint about Muslims that surprises me.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I wouldn't have thought that this would be something he's concerned with.
alex jones
Faith, I have three daughters.
I am Islamic sexual mutilation, having their genitals cut off, very phobic of that.
I'm phobic of gay people being thrown off buildings.
I am phobic of the horrible third world conditions these people are in.
I'm phobic on how about 80% of Islamic men in the West are on welfare and never work and walk around their nightgowns all day stinking.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound right.
unidentified
You bet.
alex jones
I am absolutely phobic of them and the gang raping and the making fun of people.
What?
dan friesen
That's a weird.
jordan holmes
That was a barrage of things that don't equivocate.
dan friesen
No, but at the end, the making fun of people seems like a real strange thing to put on a list.
jordan holmes
Seems like that's free speech.
I hate the way that they're unemployed.
All right.
And they don't smell great.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And they mutilate generals, genitals.
dan friesen
They can't mutilate genitals.
unidentified
They can't.
dan friesen
They're psychics.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
See it coming.
But what I really hate is the way they make fun of people, Dan.
That's what I really despise.
dan friesen
It's very strange.
I couldn't make heads or tails of that, really.
But I think it goes to Alex's like, I don't like feeling bad.
jordan holmes
But is he for or against in this?
I mean, I get that he's against people who are Islamic, period.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
But like, he's against them because they push gay people off buildings, or is he against them?
dan friesen
I'm using that as a kid.
He's just going to attack all Muslims because he thinks that they're all that, as opposed to recognizing that there is a cross-section of Muslims as there is of all people that are fucking dicks.
There is just a percentage of all groups that are bad people.
And he just decides in this case, because it's the group that he and his boys have decided to turn into the other, that they marginalize the most, that they are all complicit in that.
So that's kind of what he's doing there.
jordan holmes
God, I hate him.
dan friesen
But he's mad.
jordan holmes
I hate him.
dan friesen
You're going to hate him more after this next clip.
alex jones
I mean, this is literally the invasion of inbred recharge.
jordan holmes
What?
unidentified
You import the third world, you become the third world.
dan friesen
No!
Right?
alex jones
No!
unidentified
Cool.
jordan holmes
The literal.
That's not how America has proven that.
America's proven that again and again and again.
dan friesen
It's one of the ideas of it.
jordan holmes
That's the whole thing.
alex jones
What are you doing?
jordan holmes
It was the fucking Irish.
What do you think we were doing great and then we just came over and made America better?
dan friesen
Do you remember the fucking hate these people?
The plaque.
jordan holmes
Leave America.
dan friesen
The plaque.
She's Canadian.
The plaque that's on.
Oh, also, when he's saying earlier that she's freelancing, it's because she got fired from rebel media because you wanted to.
jordan holmes
You go white nationalists.
dan friesen
No, Nazi.
Because you went on these shows and said Nazi shit.
But remember that plaque on the Statue of Liberty?
That's like, bring me your rich, you're really affluent, well-to-do people who have jobs.
jordan holmes
Give me that first world, baby, I believe is the.
alex jones
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what it was paraphrased as.
dan friesen
So lest you think that just Faith Goldie and Alex, they're just going to sit around and talk about Islam and how much they don't want those people coming into the country.
That's not all they talk about.
Alex brings back up that clip he has of the cross-dresser addressing a city council meeting, and Faith Goldie says something incredibly horrible.
jordan holmes
I hate to interrupt you.
No, you don't.
No, actually, this time.
dan friesen
Because if you hate to do it.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
This time I am very conscious that I am doing that.
There is just one thing that I want to say about how stupid these people are, which is how is it that you don't realize that if you, I mean, even in their perfect world of like, we never bring in third world people.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You're only bringing in the affluent.
You're only bringing in the wealthy.
They're only getting wealthier.
All that's going to wind up happening is you're removing the serfs, and you're going to become the serfs.
Like, even in their own world of, like...
dan friesen
If you brought in only the, like, upper crust of all other countries, then the middle class here would be exceedingly poor.
Yeah.
So there's that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
Like, if you really want a white nationalist country, you should be bringing in as many third world people as possible to work on your plantations.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Fucking idiots.
I hate them.
dan friesen
That's strategic.
jordan holmes
They don't make any sense.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Okay.
See, now that's why I felt like I needed to say it, and I apologize for getting you off the bottom.
dan friesen
They make emotional sense to the people that they're targeting is the issue.
jordan holmes
They're just stupid.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, like I said, they get back to the cross-dresser narrative that Alex has turned into all trans people are really just trying to groom your children.
Faith Goldie says something real awful.
unidentified
No one grows up being this sort of sexual deviant.
I'm sorry to say they've been groomed because of some sort of exposure, desensitization, or abuse.
And so what happens is basically the way that these sexual deviants create more sexual deviation is by abuse.
dan friesen
So that's the way they reproduce and keep on going.
I don't even want to address that, but I just wanted to play it to show this lady sucks.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex announces this, that this is the night before Faith Goldie is getting married.
Congratulations, Faith.
And Alex says something about her to-be husband, her fiancé.
And I have some thoughts about that.
alex jones
And Faith Goldie is in Fuego.
She's about to get married to her groom, great patriot.
And they're over there in Europe where he's from.
dan friesen
So he's a great patriot.
I'm going to tell you.
jordan holmes
Of what?
Where?
To whom.
dan friesen
So, Faith Goldie's fiancé is a man named Joseph Viesner.
unidentified
Not a whole lot is known about him, other than that he's a...
jordan holmes
Before we go any further, she's a Nazi.
Wiesner?
dan friesen
He's a European nationalist, and he appears to have some association with fascist groups, from what I can tell, but it's really hard to nail down.
He doesn't have a ton of stuff about him that's publicly available.
The only other thing that I can say for sure about Joseph is that he was thrown out of Royal St. George Private School for what then Principal Hal Hanaford called, quote, an anti-Semitic incident.
The incident in question was an internet message board that was started and became a hotbed for bigotry and specifically anti-Semitism.
When a fellow student voiced disapproval with the messages being made on this board, someone replied, and I apologize for my language that I'm about to say, I quote, you little fucking faggot, who are you?
Nobody knows you.
You're probably some fucking Jew who doesn't deserve to exist and who should be thrown into an oven with the rest of them.
Fucking kite, get off this site.
Nobody wants you here.
Fucking cheap piece of motherfucking shit.
Next time you decide to send something, put some thought into it.
All right, you little fucking Jew.
Don't go off blabbing about random bullshit.
Okay, you fucking hook-nosed parasite.
That's all I have to say for the moment.
It turns out that the person who disapproved of the hatred on this board was actually four female students who printed off the messages from the board and reported them to Mr. Hannaford.
Joseph was one of three students kicked out of school for this, which doesn't necessarily mean that he wrote the above message, but definitely means that he was writing similar things, given that four additional students were suspended for shorter terms for being bystanders on the message board, which means that he was definitely deeply involved in posting messages like the one that was reported.
One of the chief concerns that educators had was the fact that the language that was being used seemed very anachronistic, like holdovers from 1930s anti-Semitism, which seemed odd to be coming from 15-year-olds.
The conclusion they came to was that there was very likely some kind of radicalization happening that these students had been the target of, which they then became the distributors of.
People who knew Faith in high school, as well as classmates of Joseph, said that they believe that his influence and how he came into her life around the time that her mother was suffering with stage four breast cancer led Faith down the hateful path that she's on today.
jordan holmes
Cult shit.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
There it is.
dan friesen
It seems almost clear.
jordan holmes
Found it your weakest moment, most suggestible, and somebody gave you something to blame.
dan friesen
People who knew her have indicated that they believe that what happened was the way that she went from being this really outgoing, nice, very sociable person in high school to what she is now, is that around this time, tragedy struck in her life where her mom was her rock.
Before that, she was very weak and vulnerable, and she happened to meet this guy who got thrown out of school for posting anti-Semitic shit on a message board, and he started to be able to take advantage of her.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That goes on to this day.
So it's a very unfortunate story, but just because it's unfortunate, it doesn't mean that she's not complicit in this now.
Certainly, and isn't a monster.
jordan holmes
Yeah, man, there's just one thing that you want to like.
I feel for her now, because if there's anything I know about these exact stories, sooner or later she's going to be abused in some way.
dan friesen
That's the end of this Faith Goldie chunk.
But, I mean, it's just, it's wild.
It's wild who he talks to and doesn't recognize what they're really about.
jordan holmes
Faith, if you're listening to this, get out.
dan friesen
Get out.
jordan holmes
You can.
You can.
You can get out.
dan friesen
It's too late.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, move to Vancouver and open up a bike sale shop.
dan friesen
But I mean, he's calling Bolsonaro a nationalist in the Trump vein who's one of these success stories internationally.
Then he has Faith Goldie, someone who has very clearly indicated neo-Nazi positions and affiliations.
He has her on and says that her husband is a great patriot who's not even an American anyway.
He's a great patriot.
only as a patriot if your version of patriotism is protecting whiteness that's the only how much more clear can you make it there's no other way you can have an international nationalist movement against the globalists calling people patriots if it's not uniting in some sense It's a white nation.
jordan holmes
And it's a white nation.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
He's a patriot for Germany or Austria or wherever it is he's going to be.
dan friesen
He's our patriot.
jordan holmes
He's our patriot there because he supports the nation of whiteness.
Exactly.
dan friesen
So that's all awful.
And now let's get into something goofy.
alex jones
Imagine going to your church and making them talk about the targeting of children or world government.
Imagine being men and taking the culture back and not letting L.A. and San Francisco and London and Paris and all the mentally ill, horribly sad people, people like Macron, a known admitted sex slave when he was a child to the Rothschilds and others.
That's what extreme news.
Wait, that's who Anderson Cooper is.
That's who Macron are.
These are literally brainwashed, programmed, trauma-based mind control individuals.
dan friesen
I was waiting for him to get to that world of MK Ultra conspiracy theory.
Didn't realize he was that deep into that, but that's fun.
He talks about how Anderson Cooper is, you know, it's just sort of a weird homophobia that he has about him.
But it's interesting, this thing about Macron, because he's saying it's like mainstream news.
And say what you want about Macron.
His politics are a little dicey.
jordan holmes
No, he sucks.
dan friesen
But it's pretty fucking stupid to say that it's mainstream news that he was a Rothschild sex slave.
jordan holmes
That is a stretch.
I feel like if that were true, I would have at least heard of it.
dan friesen
Someone would have said it once.
What Alex is trying to do is he's trying to conflate and misrepresent two aspects of Macron's life in a way to smear him, most likely because he's a pro-EU kind of guy, and he beat Alex's precious fascist Marine Le Pen in the last French election.
The sex slave part is Alex being a real dick about Macron's wife.
Now, admittedly, their relationship is one that definitely raises eyebrows, and I'm not necessarily entirely sold on the romanticized teacher and student fall madly in love, student goes on to become an adult, and then they get married narrative.
My personal take on it doesn't really matter, though.
According to all sources, their relationship could not have started before he was 16, and the age of consent in France is 15.
So there's no law being broken here.
I'm not going to defend it, but he was over the age of consent in France.
Yeah, yeah.
So whatever you're trying to do here isn't going to work.
Macron wasn't a sex slave, but his unconventional relationship has caused many in the conspiracy world to speculate that his wife was some kind of a handler.
That sort of thing.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So those rumors fly around a whole bunch, and they're all based on nothing.
The Rothschild part is just a complete misrepresentation of Macron's pre-presidential career.
From 2008 to 2012, Macron worked as an investment banker at the Rothschild Bank, which caused sensible people in France to question whether or not they wanted a president that had that close a connection to finance.
Understandable.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
This is a question that deserves to be brought up.
jordan holmes
In retrospect?
A very good question.
dan friesen
It also led to not-so-sensible people, like Republican candidate Francois Filliant, to put out deeply anti-Semitic caricatures of Macron stylized with a hook nose.
A whole lot of folks followed suit on these attacks, particularly in the Russian anti-UN, anti-EU propaganda communities.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait.
Are you saying that they're fine with fucking Jew bashing?
That doesn't sound right.
The Russians?
I can't imagine any sort of founding document that would suggest that they would be fine with that.
dan friesen
Now, in reality, it doesn't really even matter any of these accusations that are being made.
Like, he worked at this Rothschild Bank and all that because, get this, the Rothschild Bank was nationalized by Francois Mitterrand's government in 1981.
jordan holmes
So the Rothschilds still run it, though.
dan friesen
But it's a nationalized bank.
jordan holmes
No, but it's like they have day-to-day control over it.
dan friesen
Francois Mitterrand nationalized most of the banks in 1981.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a terrible idea.
dan friesen
He nationalized the Rothschild Bank, which led to Guy de Rothschild wondering if his 40 years of relentless labor had been all for nothing.
Then he left the country, which I can't.
jordan holmes
With his billions of dollars.
dan friesen
I kind of thought in Alex's conception, all these globalists and people were working for the Rothschilds.
But here's Francois Mitterrand, someone who Alex says is a high-level globalist, working directly against their interests.
That is not something you would do to your boss.
jordan holmes
Nah, it's within the best interests of the Rothschilds to not have a bank.
That's how they make money.
dan friesen
All right.
Right?
No.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
I don't know.
This is all nonsense.
And I just like the idea that Alex is like, it's in the mainstream news that he was a Rothschild sex slave.
It's like, what the fuck are you even talking about?
jordan holmes
That is a bit of a.
But also, I think that would be an inspirational story.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Isn't it inspirational for this guy who was a even metaphorically a Rothschild sex slave?
He worked his way up to president of France.
dan friesen
What's important is that it feels right.
jordan holmes
Everybody.
dan friesen
For the people listening, and that's all that matters.
jordan holmes
It's a rags to riches story.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, in 2009, whenever we hear country music, we know that it's going to be some fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
In 2018, unfortunately, Alex has ruined it.
jordan holmes
It's a death knell.
dan friesen
He has ruined the fun of country music.
And I'll say this: this song is a song that goes like, if you leave me, I won't miss you.
I won't try to get you back.
Then it goes in to be like, well, if you believe that, I got oceanfront property.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That's the theme of the song.
jordan holmes
I would have played all of it, but I only posturing his strength while at the same time revealing his weakness through it.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And I only explain that because we start in the middle of the song.
jordan holmes
With a man posturing his strength.
unidentified
Oceanfront property in Aruzhan.
From my front porch, you can see the sea.
I got some oceanfront property in Aruzzo.
If you buy that, I'll throw the Golden Gate in free.
alex jones
And if you'll believe there's more than two genders, I'll throw the Golden Gate in free.
jordan holmes
What?
Was that necessary?
You got to be a dick about that.
alex jones
1984 was 2 plus 2 equals 4.
You know.
jordan holmes
In 1940, 84 is 2 plus 2 equals 5.
alex jones
This news is so huge.
Still teasing so important that I'm sitting here with my notes in front of me.
And if you believe that, I've got some ocean front property.
dan friesen
Real quick, we're going to get back into this clip, but at this point, he has multiple times said what the news is already.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He still thinks he's teasing it, which is just, it's fascinating.
alex jones
And what President Trump did today, once again, retweet and somebody would prepare like Munch, who is even an orator, an orator, what?
To give.
And I'm not complaining or bitching.
I'm just saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you are.
alex jones
When something is so big, I don't feel worthy.
You know, Wayne's world, we're not worthy.
We're not worthy.
And I want to say this as perfectly as I can.
And then the segment begins.
And I'm on air.
dan friesen
You're on air.
alex jones
And I've got just news so important, news so dangerous that I feel like I should be like me walking around in a field or something.
You know what I mean?
Like when something really crazy happens in your life, what something even good or something really horrible, kind of like you go outside and you're just like, don't know what to do.
jordan holmes
You go into a field?
alex jones
Because that's the quickening that's happening, and it just confirms everything.
jordan holmes
Is this a Highlander?
alex jones
We already know that we're not in normal situations.
dan friesen
He said nothing.
jordan holmes
It was all nothing.
It's crazy.
I have him clocked at an infinite amount of time for saying nothing.
What was that?
dan friesen
That was a crazy amount of nothing.
That was like, he's talking about what he's experiencing in the moment.
He's like, I meant to get into this, but I'm very unprepared.
And then all of a sudden, I'm on air like I am right now, and I don't fucking know what I'm going to say.
jordan holmes
You ever been in a field?
I kind of wish I was in a field right now.
Also, you ever see Highlander?
I think we should have played that queen song instead of this bullshit country nonsense.
dan friesen
The quickening is upon us, which, spoiler alert, I've been listening to 2009 episodes, and he says the quickening is happening in 2009, too.
jordan holmes
Oh, really?
dan friesen
Says it all.
unidentified
It's a quickening.
dan friesen
It's the summer of rage.
jordan holmes
Here we are.
dan friesen
Stop it.
jordan holmes
Born to the kings.
unidentified
We are the princes of the universe.
dan friesen
Cut it out.
unidentified
So I am immortal.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I have it.
dan friesen
In this next clip.
Well, he is not a Highlander.
Alex is something else that.
jordan holmes
An Egyptian Scotsman.
dan friesen
He's not.
But we see him in one way, and that is as a liar and a bullshit artist.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Some people see him in a different way.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's.
alex jones
I don't need sources to know.
You can feel it.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound right.
alex jones
But then I have the sources.
jordan holmes
You don't.
alex jones
But see, I am the source.
Just like you are a source.
But in the whole panopticonic pantheon of sources, InfoWars is dreaded and hated and banned.
And I say this not to brag.
I don't like the responsibility.
In the councils of government, in Congress, in foreign governments, I'm seen as like an oracle.
jordan holmes
Really?
alex jones
And it means it's believed that I basically don't lie.
jordan holmes
Really?
alex jones
And I have a track record of knowing things other people don't know.
jordan holmes
Really?
alex jones
Being able to feed all the data in into a system and then come up with a gestalt of the roadmap and the topography that we're coming in on us with the ground radar.
dan friesen
He's just saying words there at the end.
jordan holmes
This is wow.
That's nonsense.
dan friesen
That's just what Russia has told him.
That's just what Alexander Dugan told him when he was on his show.
Like, it's not foreign governments believe that.
It's someone who's fucking with you, Alex.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
No one thinks you're a fucking oracle.
Everyone knows you're wrong all the time.
You're a useful, like, the blunt object people can use to attack enemies they want.
jordan holmes
He's a buffoon.
dan friesen
Crazy.
I'm an oracle.
Get the fuck out of here.
Get the fuck out of here.
There's so many things he said that I'm like, all right, whatever.
But that's one I'm like, get the fuck out of here.
jordan holmes
My nickname is Alex Delphi Jones.
I'm so much of an oracle.
dan friesen
There's times when I just like, I've run out of patience with you, Alex.
jordan holmes
You're a fucking oracle.
Bananas.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex reveals something about Trump that it worries me.
jordan holmes
Sure he committed all the crimes.
dan friesen
It's not about that.
It's about his personal life.
There's a few times I'm.
jordan holmes
Sure, he fucked all the crimes.
dan friesen
Nope, not about that.
It's rare that I feel a little bit concerned about Trump based on Alex's words.
But if what Alex is saying here is true, I'm a little worried.
alex jones
Trump is fighting like a titan at 72 years of age.
People are begging him to stop.
jordan holmes
He's lost.
alex jones
He's good caffeinated drinks and water and stuff, but he takes no drugs, basically.
And people are begging him.
He doesn't sleep some nights.
He is a maniac.
He's the real deal.
I'm not trying to kiss his ass.
You should appreciate something when it's like this.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
There's at least an hour or two a week he doesn't sleep.
And that's what like three diet cooks.
So we should be praying for the president like Elijah to hold up their arms because boo.
Trump is definitely the real deal.
He's definitely our champion.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I would recommend everybody out there, if you're interested, Google studies about sleep deprivation in the elderly.
It's very serious.
Like, if Trump isn't sleeping two diets a week, like that could lead to very serious problems in terms of cognition, memory loss.
jordan holmes
I mean, it makes sense.
dan friesen
There's so many.
Like that would explain a lot.
If he's not sleeping two nights a week, he's 70 fucking years old.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He needs to sleep.
unidentified
No, I need sleep more as you get older.
jordan holmes
Look, look, I don't want even a president who does the things I agree with to do that.
I don't want any president to be described as a maniac.
dan friesen
Sleep deprived maniac.
jordan holmes
He's not good.
dan friesen
Who maybe drinks too much Diet Coke?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
If that's true, and Trump, I know you listen.
Take a nap, baby.
jordan holmes
Go to bed.
dan friesen
Yeah, go to bed.
jordan holmes
Just go to bed.
dan friesen
Go to bed.
jordan holmes
Don't go to bed.
dan friesen
Don't not sleep two nights a week.
You're not doing anything.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
What are you staying up doing?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
You're garbage at the thing that you're garbage at.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, like I said, the news is that Trump retweeted this meme and that Alex believes that.
jordan holmes
I really can't believe that that's the sentence you're saying.
dan friesen
And that Alex believes that it's an indication that all of his enemies will soon be behind bars.
jordan holmes
That I can't believe.
dan friesen
Yes.
But he's not a dictator because the meme includes the word trial.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
So that means that everybody who says that he's a dictator is stupid because there's trials.
jordan holmes
So if.
So, okay.
Now, here's a fascinating thought.
Actually, you know what?
Never mind.
I'm sorry I interrupted you again.
I always do that.
dan friesen
Well, I was just going to say that the other part of his big news is that in order to make sure that Trump is not able to do this, there will be false flags.
That's the only thing I needed to clarify because that's also part of his news, and we didn't play a clip of that.
jordan holmes
There will be false flags.
dan friesen
False flags are coming because the globalists are afraid of how Trump is going to put them all in prison, which is not news.
It's something that Alex says all the time, every day.
The only thing that's different is that Trump retweeted a meme.
That's the only thing that's different about this than any of the other times Alex has said, Trump is going to lock up all of my enemies, and in order to make sure that he's not able to do that, they're going to create false flags.
Nothing is different.
jordan holmes
Man, after you told me that, all I can think of is how much I want to walk around in a field to try and deal with that information.
dan friesen
It's tough, man.
You imagine yourself in a field.
jordan holmes
Can we pause this so we can go find a field in Chicago?
dan friesen
Let's go over to the lakefront.
It's not a field, but there's some creeps hanging out there.
It's after dark.
jordan holmes
That is 100% true.
dan friesen
Never been down by the lake after dark and not seen some creeps.
unidentified
Go ahead.
jordan holmes
Ah, yeah.
So, so I just wish they would think one step beyond what it is that they like.
So, so then, their idea of what's going to happen is a simultaneous Mueller investigation into Trump and all of his associates.
That has led to directly to very clear crimes, isn't it like 33 people have been charged yeah, some some insane number and but then simultaneously, Trump is going to launch an investigation into all of his political opponents.
Well, so there's going to be a two-pronged.
Like you investigate me, I investigate you, what do you got going on here?
And that's going to make sense of America.
dan friesen
I can answer this question.
Sure, it's because Alex Jones has this term that he he likes to throw around called parallel construction.
Okay, and so what Mueller is doing, Mueller is doing is that he is doing the parallel construction of what he's already guilty of.
All of the globalists are guilty of all these crimes, so they're creating this entire perception that Trump is guilty of all these crimes.
Right, so Trump would do it.
He'd do the real investigation, right?
That would be somewhat identical to Mueller's investigation, just in reverse right, but it would be the real one, because Mueller's one is the parallel construction, where they're covering up for all the globalists' crimes right, which makes sense to him, because he thinks what he's doing is what everybody else is doing, which makes it okay for him to do it.
jordan holmes
Construction, he thinks that what they're doing is what they say other people are doing, so it's okay for them to do it right.
dan friesen
Right, it's a trap.
All right, you can't get out of it.
jordan holmes
Everyone's insane.
dan friesen
Yep, you can't get out everyone's insane, no matter how you try and be like well, but look at this, it's just no, it's, there's no escape.
jordan holmes
Yeah, these people are gone.
dan friesen
It's like um, it's.
It's like um, it's quicksand.
It's like yeah, it's rhetorical and emotional quicksand.
Fight, the more you have to stay out of it.
Yeah um, so that's the news.
And Alex keeps teasing it, but also saying it, but then continuing to tease it afterwards, right, it's from uh, from a sort of rhetorical, I hear he hasn't been sleeping two nights a week, though it's possible.
Yeah, but from a rhetorical standpoint, I don't understand how the speech is laid out, like, how does he not realize that he's already said the things that he's teasing?
How, like?
I don't, I don't understand it, but it does lead to a clip towards the end of the episode.
That I think is one of the weirder, more insane, slightly esoteric clips uh, that i've heard in a while and for that reason, and that reason alone, it's worth our time.
alex jones
And Trump saw the election fraud, the rest of it.
He's got all the intel and it's over.
Oh okay, all these globalists want to fight.
They've got one and they're going to release to Congress the fact that Hillary's emails have been discovered and then they're going to start leaking what's in them.
unidentified
Who found them, Alex?
alex jones
But it's going to get a lot worse than that.
But the point is we've now like two armies on two hills going down to a valley to fight.
The armies are now coming down, it's on, but they're led by psychics, so they don't know what life's all about.
Not life's just being stagnant being yes men huh, don't be scared if we march down into the valley.
unidentified
Wait, hold on the Valley Of Death.
jordan holmes
That's very scary.
I, i'm going Death.
alex jones
There's a stream that flows in it.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Not that stream that goes out to the ocean.
unidentified
It's the ocean of life.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
The tree of liberty.
In the ocean?
Above ground, but I think the ocean is a big giant tree.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
The blood that flows from patriots and tyrants out to the sea feeds the greater system.
jordan holmes
That's gross and weird, and I don't understand that at all.
dan friesen
I don't deem that gross.
I deem that confusing as hell because I think he started going with a metaphor.
Like, he's like, there's a stream on this battle, death battlefield.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And the stream goes to the ocean.
And then he remembered that expression: the tree of liberty has to be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots from time to time or whatever.
And he's like, oh shit, this kind of works.
What if that ocean was a tree?
Alex, come on, man.
jordan holmes
Just stop.
dan friesen
Because you could just say, we're going down to this death battlefield and there's a tree there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That'd be fine.
dan friesen
You don't have to make the ocean a tree.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but there's got to be a stream and the stream goes to the ocean.
It's a tributary.
You know how a lot of streams are ocean tributaries?
dan friesen
This is where I'm just like, this is good.
That's good, Alex.
You know what I've realized?
I think my favorite thing about Alex is when he loses it halfway through a thought and you can fucking tell.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And that's what happened right there.
He was just like, because no way you plan to say, what if an ocean is a tree?
But Alex's improvisation.
jordan holmes
I think that's in a lot of Jordan Peterson's speeches, actually.
dan friesen
Oh, undoubtedly.
jordan holmes
What if an ocean was a tree?
dan friesen
It has to do with the eternal male.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like that sort of thing charms me to no end.
It's like when Alex starts a sentence that he thinks is going one way and takes it the absolute other direction.
It's just a real treat.
So I don't know, man.
We've come to the end of our clips here.
And like I said, this entire show is really just about Trump retweeting that meme and Alex being real.
And being transphobic, but it's not about trans people at all.
It's about a cross-dressing reading series at libraries, which is a different thing.
It's a mess.
It's a mess.
It's just bigotry, and then Trump retweeted a meme.
That's all we got.
It's really weird to look at this in the present day because in order to make there be things to talk about, like, well, Alex randomly brought up fucking clones in wombs.
That's not true, but I can look into that and show.
He said that Macron was a fucking Rothschild sex slave.
I can look into that.
The rest of this stuff, it's like, Alex, you're misrepresenting this cross-dresser who was giving a speech, and Trump just retweeted a meme, man.
jordan holmes
I could do with more talk on the clone.
dan friesen
Yeah, it would have been nice.
jordan holmes
I feel like the clone is big news.
dan friesen
Well, especially because it's not a clone, it's gene editing.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
Because it's that, I would have loved for him to do half an hour on that because he would have embarrassed himself.
Yeah, and he would have indicated that he hadn't read.
Or what if it is about the monkey?
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Or is it like, and even like the gene editing thing is so much more fun than the clone thing because clone's boring.
Clones are genetically identical.
The gene editing, that's a whole new fucking sphere that he didn't even know.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
But as much as he talks about chimeras, imagine if we could just edit genes to make people into chimeras, even though they're not chimeras.
Come on, man.
You got all day.
dan friesen
Alex would blow it somehow.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
He'd screw up the reporting.
Anyway, I don't know.
I'm excited to see how he responds to Cohen flipping and all that stuff.
I don't know.
We'll see on that.
I think he's going to freak the fuck out.
But for now, his show sucks.
Present day sucks.
This is such a bad show.
Except for what if an ocean is a tree.
jordan holmes
What if an ocean is a tree, though?
What is a tree if not the ocean in bark form?
dan friesen
And all generals are psychics.
jordan holmes
All generals are psychics.
dan friesen
That's important.
jordan holmes
Which is why when you go down to the battlefield, you don't even need to worry about fighting because they already know how it's going to end.
dan friesen
The psychic knows that the ocean is a tree.
That's the wisdom of the psychic.
jordan holmes
That is the wisdom of the psychic.
dan friesen
The wisdom of the psychic is also to know that we have a website.
That's knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
The wisdom of the psychic is to know that I would never have a kid unless it was within a specific gene editing situation where I would totally have a kid if you look to the Chinese scientist who is going to be jailed shortly because you're not leaving the country.
For Christ's sake, get out now.
dan friesen
What does this have to do with our Twitter handle?
jordan holmes
I'm bringing it back.
Come on, man.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
I'm going to land this.
Now you cut me off.
I don't even know how to land it.
There's no way.
I had a circuitous route.
It was going to take a while.
dan friesen
That was the fucking Malaysian plane of the world.
jordan holmes
There was going to be a 25-minute 25-minute circuitous route to get to the Twitter handle, which is at knowledge underscore fight.
You don't need gene editing to know that.
All right.
All right.
That one was weak.
unidentified
I apologize.
jordan holmes
That was weak deep.
We are.
We got a group?
dan friesen
Yep.
Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we're on iTunes.
You can go to the thing.
You can leave the reviews.
You can do the thing.
You've heard a podcast before.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
But beyond that, I would say.
jordan holmes
What do you got?
dan friesen
That one-year-old cloned monkey?
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yep.
dan friesen
Hasn't killed anybody.
jordan holmes
No, it hasn't?
No.
You can't prove that.
dan friesen
Because it's not on antidepressants.
jordan holmes
SSRIs.
dan friesen
SSRIs.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Do you know why it doesn't need SSRIs?
dan friesen
Why is that?
jordan holmes
Because it was cloned from a monkey that did not need SRSRIs.
dan friesen
Like Xanax.
Like Xanax, exactly.
alex jones
Indeed.
dan friesen
So I know that that one-year-old cloned monkey hasn't killed anybody.
unidentified
Yet.
dan friesen
Well, who knows?
We're not psychics like generals.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
We can't fight that fight in our heads.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
But I know one guy who's killed somebody, technically, probably killed somebody.
That guy is Alex Jones.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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