Today, Dan and Jordan take a break from talking about Alex Jones to check in with the wacky world of Project Camelot, to learn about some high class Space Weirdos. On this installment, the gents meet two men who claim to have spent 20 years each working in space. Their stories are interesting, but their revelations about space laws are game changers.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
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Thanks for holding. | |
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
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Dan. | |
| Jordan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| When was the last time you went to a museum? | ||
| A museum, I believe, the last time might have been over... | ||
| Does an aquarium count? | ||
| No, it's a fish museum. | ||
| Fish museum. | ||
| I went to Shedd Aquarium not too long ago. | ||
| I went to that big museum downtown maybe like three years ago or so. | ||
| Which? | ||
| Chicago features a surprising number of big museums. | ||
| Oh, the Field Museum is great. | ||
| Yeah, I went there because they had like a free day or something like that. | ||
| I think my brother was in town. | ||
| Did you touch something? | ||
| Got real depressed because there was a whole big display about the extinctions that have happened over the years. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah. | |
| You know, like we were in one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kind of bummed me out a little bit. | ||
| Like, hey, thanks, museum. | ||
| Did they have like a next door where you walk in and it's like, and humans in 23 years will be gone. | ||
| The end of the whole thing was. | ||
| There was a recent report on biodiversity that said even if climate change doesn't kill us, the fact that we're destroying all of the species of the world means we're inevitably going to be dying. | ||
| Alex Jones would tell you that any biodiversity assessment is really just code for eugenics about how they want to kill off all the humans, and I know that because I know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| That's a transition right there. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| God damn! | ||
| Never been smoother. | ||
| Oh, that's a miracle. | ||
| You don't know anything about Alex Jones. | ||
| I don't know anything about Alex Jones. | ||
| And that's the show. | ||
| Guys, today it's Wacky Wednesday. | ||
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Yay! | |
| So it is time for us to pay a visit to the wacky, wacky world of the Secret Space Program. | ||
| Oh my god, I need a Wacky Wednesday. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| We have our endgame coverage, not endgame, sorry, the Obama deception coverage coming up next week, and that is a whole lot of Alex. | ||
| So we want to give you guys a little break, a little reprieve from talking about Alex Jones to talk about the wonderful world of Project Camelot, where Carrie Cassidy, our intrepid investigative reporter, Sits down with space weirdos and asks them pointed questions about their time in space. | ||
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Perfect. | |
| It's a perfect show format. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| It's pretty great until you get a racist pleiadian. | ||
| Yeah, then it gets into trouble. | ||
| Then it gets into trouble. | ||
| Then it's a little ill-advised. | ||
| But before we get going on today's show, I'd like to take a little moment to say thank you to somebody who has joined up with the team and has donated to the show, which we very much appreciate. | ||
| So I'd like to say thank you so much to Molly Wobbles. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you very much, Molly. | ||
| So, if you would like to support the show and what we do, you can go to our website, click that little button that says support the show over on knowledgefight.com. | ||
| We would appreciate it. | ||
| And that's that. | ||
| Indeed you can. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And we would. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| That's true. | ||
| Is Molly Wobble, is it one word or two? | ||
| It's Molly Wobble? | ||
| So it's not Molly. | ||
| It's Molly Wobble. | ||
| Yeah, that's why I said the whole thing. | ||
| I don't generally use people's last names. | ||
| I don't know if people want me to use their last names. | ||
| I use the default of maybe a last initial sometimes. | ||
| Privacy. | ||
| I think people would prefer you left their names out of it and just... | ||
| Said their addresses. | ||
| Or just came up with fun nicknames for everybody so no one knows who I'm actually saying. | ||
| Or social security numbers. | ||
| That's a great way to identify people. | ||
| It's a great nickname. | ||
| My social security number is my nickname. | ||
| So Jordan, today what we've got is an episode where the title of it is Secret Space Program Recruits. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So we got multiple. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So, Gary Cassidy sits down with a couple of dudes. | ||
| One guy's name is Jason Rice, and the other guy, I believe, is Tony Rodriguez. | ||
| All right. | ||
| There are two gentlemen who have been a part of the Secret Space Program and may or may not be super soldiers. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So, that's very exciting. | ||
| It also sounds like they could be the lead actors in a reboot of Chips. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| Ponciarelli, Tony Rodriguez. | ||
| It's possible, but here is an out-of-context drop from... | ||
| And I know you have said you sort of started out as an Illuminati sex slave. | ||
| Oh, oh boy. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| It's a tough way to start out. | ||
| If that were true, that would be the wrong reaction. | ||
| I would say that's a tough, like, entry-level position. | ||
| You know, like, well, I started out as an Illuminati sex slave, now I'm an accountant. | ||
| I worked my way up. | ||
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Yeah, absolutely. | |
| The American dream is possible for anyone. | ||
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Yes. | |
| So that was in reference to Tony. | ||
| Tony and Jason have different stories. | ||
| They weren't in space together or anything like that. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| But there are overlaps to their story, which is why they're on together. | ||
| And I believe that they met each other through some internet forum and have become friends or something like that. | ||
| I mean, that's nice. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| We can all use a friend. | ||
| I'm all about friendship. | ||
| So here is Carrie Cassidy beginning the interview. | ||
| And starting it out. | ||
| Hi, everyone. | ||
| I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I am here today with two very interesting individuals, and we're going to be talking about the secret space program, Mars, the moon, and these experiences that these guys have been having in their past, and I'm not sure whether it's ongoing or not, so we're going to find that out. | ||
| So we're just calling them secret space program recruits, kind of. | ||
| Why don't you have a designation? | ||
| Um, I don't know, but isn't Alec against SSPR inhibitors? | ||
| SSRI? | ||
| Oh, SSPR. | ||
| Ah, there we go. | ||
| I gotcha. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| I believe he is. | ||
| I think he thinks they're hallucinogen class. | ||
| They are. | ||
| I think that these people might be suffering from some hallucinations, to be perfectly honest. | ||
| Maybe a little bit. | ||
| So, I feel like in the years that Carrie Cassidy's been doing this... | ||
| She should have a designation for these people, like, whatever level they're on. | ||
| She shouldn't just randomly be like, ah, we're gonna fucking call them recruits, who knows? | ||
| I mean, you could call them non-commissioned officers, wouldn't that count? | ||
| Sure, they're contractors. | ||
| Contractors, that's nice. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| But here is the gentleman coming in, chiming in, saying hello so you can get used to their relative voices. | ||
| So I'd like to welcome Jason Rice and Tony Rodriguez, and I'm going to switch the screen over to them here, and just bear with me if we do have some bandwidth issues. | ||
| We have two guys on at once, and sometimes that can be an issue. | ||
| All right, so go ahead. | ||
| Real quick, that's important to consider. | ||
| Is it an issue? | ||
| Remember that as things go along. | ||
| I feel like that means it's going to come back into play. | ||
| Guys, we want to say hello to the audience. | ||
| Well, certainly. | ||
| Hello, everybody. | ||
| Thank you for having me on your show today, Gary. | ||
| I certainly appreciate the opportunity. | ||
| This is Jason. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Hi, everybody. | ||
| It's good to be here, and it's great to be on. | ||
| Meet you, Gary, for the first time, and I'm glad to do this. | ||
| This is my first time, really, with Jason live. | ||
| We've been in contact with each other through Gaia for a while now, so it's good. | ||
| I'm still learning about his story. | ||
| I'm happy to be here and continue. | ||
| Gaia, I believe that's the internet message board. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Look, if we're dealing with the secret space program, it is entirely possible that there is a sentient over spirit that guides them to each other. | ||
| We got hooked up together by the personification of Mother Earth, and we've been friends ever since. | ||
| All right, man. | ||
| You talk to a tree. | ||
| Ah, rhizome theory, Dan. | ||
| I would say that this interview is probably, like, it starts out real hot, and then it... | ||
| He disappoints for a bit and then gets all right. | ||
| It was an interesting experience listening to it. | ||
| Because someone like Eddie Page or Mark Richards, whenever we have those people in, it's kind of like the hits just keep coming. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah. | |
| They know what you want. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
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They're fast food. | |
| That's what they are. | ||
| They're just going for the lowest common denominator. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And you can hear from Jason Rice's voice already. | ||
| He's kind of like a drab, dull, no-nonsense kind of... | ||
| He has a real boring voice, is what I'm saying. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he's not coming in with a lot of the entertainment value that you would hope from a space weirdo. | ||
| So that's tough. | ||
| But, like I said... | ||
| Which supports his argument that perhaps he was telling the truth. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| They always go for boring people to be Illuminati sex slaves. | ||
| He wasn't the Illuminati sex slave. | ||
| That's Tony. | ||
| But, I told you, this starts out hot. | ||
| And here is where Carrie starts reading their bios. | ||
| And I was like, this is so promising. | ||
| So, it looks like at age 2, Jason befriended a human-appearing visitor named Steen, or Stein, how do you say the name? | ||
| Pull-up. | ||
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Steen? | |
| Steen. | ||
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Pull-up. | |
| She was to observe and learn about Earth's cultures and people. | ||
| This friendship marked a pivotal time in his early childhood. | ||
| He's also a lawyer, which is... | ||
| He explained... | ||
| Showbiz lawyer. | ||
| ...an escape artist, and those that have listened to... | ||
| Also, this doesn't come back up at all. | ||
| It never comes back up at all that he befriended Stian at the age of two? | ||
| No, that doesn't come back up. | ||
| And secondly, it doesn't come back up that that is why he is an escape artist. | ||
| No idea what that means. | ||
| That's why he's an escape artist. | ||
| I would have loved to know so much more about him being the Houdini of secret space programs. | ||
| But it goes on. | ||
| Jimmy Church. | ||
| His show, you will have heard some of that story, I'm sure. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And ultimately, he got involved in a military MyLab situation, and he was identified as an intuitive empath. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Enrolled in experimental behavior studies. | ||
| That's what you do with him. | ||
| In 1977. | ||
| And I guess in 1986 is the end of a seven-plus-year MyLab training. | ||
| 1977, this guy would have been under 10 years old in 1977. | ||
| So just consider that. | ||
| You get him young! | ||
| ...regime, and most of his time in active duty pertains to a program that he was involved in, and I'm going to kind of skim through this quickly. | ||
| We'll just jump over to Tony. | ||
| That's a little rude. | ||
| Okay, so Tony... | ||
| She just jumps over to Tony. | ||
| I'm like, hey, hey, Carrie, this guy was friends with an alien. | ||
| What, in her world? | ||
| Oh, you're just friends with an alien? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I know a guy with a telescope, Dan. | ||
| He works at a bus station. | ||
| I guess that is kind of blasé. | ||
| Isn't it? | ||
| It's de rigueur here on Project Camelot. | ||
| Wait, wait, hold on. | ||
| You know one alien? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Cocktail parties full of aliens. | ||
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Get bent. | |
| Get bent, Mr. Rice. | ||
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Get bent, Mr. Rice. | |
| Let's see. | ||
| He says he's 46 years a married father. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| The phrasing of that is amazing. | ||
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Wait. | |
| I don't understand how old he is. | ||
| He's 46 years old. | ||
| Is his child 46? | ||
| Does it start from when he got married? | ||
| Is he 46 years old? | ||
| That's the problem with the language, but no, he's 46 years old. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So he's 46 years old, a married father. | ||
| She couldn't have come up with a worse way to say that. | ||
| No, that's the most confusing possible way to say something that's very simple to say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And from a name I can't pronounce, Michigan. | ||
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He calls himself a working class man. | |
| No, it's pronounced Michigan. | ||
| Normal is kind of a question mark there. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| He calls himself a human, I think you're calling yourself sort of a slave or a sex slave, involved with satanic worshipping and being used in this way. | ||
| I'm assuming this wasn't with your... | ||
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That wouldn't be a slave, then. | |
| Well, Dan, we need to start getting into the dom-sub relationships that exist. | ||
| That'll be part of our Obama deception coverage. | ||
| We're going to find that out. | ||
| And later sold off to Secret Space Programs, where he served on Mars for a short time as a support soldier for the Mars Colony Corporation. | ||
| Not a waiter? | ||
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Wait! | |
| You go directly from sex slave to soldier? | ||
| That's fast. | ||
| And then got involved in the Ceres Colony Corp, where he lived for over a decade and was working on German ships as a repairman and eventually a cargo engineer on interstellar trade missions. | ||
| See, now, part of his story is that they are able to digitally train people, you know, like in the Matrix. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, like in the Matrix. | ||
| So all of this stuff about, like, he doesn't have the qualifications to do that, it's taken care of by, like, I just downloaded Kung Fu. | ||
| Not an issue for me. | ||
| Main issue? | ||
| So wait, he just, like, the people, the Illuminati who owned him as a sex slave. | ||
| We'll learn a little bit more about that. | ||
| They just... | ||
| Gave up his papers? | ||
| Like, they sold him off? | ||
| I don't think I have this clip because it was in a particularly boring stretch of the show, but I believe, as Tony explains, that they were drugging their sex slaves and stuff like that. | ||
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Oh, of course. | |
| But then they changed to a different drug to drug them. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And he was allergic to that drug, so they sold him off. | ||
| I believe that that is how he explains... | ||
| I'm gonna be honest, that is the most reasonable explanation I have ever heard on Project Camelot. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| He's allergic to their sex drug! | ||
| You can't use him anymore! | ||
| Tony's not terrible at war games. | ||
| Like, he is pretty decent at, like... | ||
| Alright, that's plausible. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Also, cuts through any of this conspiracy bullshit. | ||
| It's not like, oh, I was... | ||
| No, I mean, it doesn't. | ||
| But I mean, in terms of this one exact moment of just like pure, like, no, I didn't have to fight off anybody. | ||
| I didn't have to make an argument for my freedom. | ||
| I wasn't saved by anybody. | ||
| I was allergic to this new drug, so I got kicked off the study, you know? | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Bummer. | ||
| They gave me a nice... | ||
| If you're already in for a penny, that'll help you get in for a pound, basically. | ||
| That's the sort of answer where it's like, I tip my cap to you. | ||
| You have decent improv chops. | ||
| He's allergic. | ||
| You're a decent storyteller, Tony. | ||
| Oh, one of the other reasons that that also matches up, that idea of he got sold to the Secret Space Program, is you can hear it there, that he worked on the Mars Colony Corporation and then ended up in the Cirrus. | ||
| Colony Corporation. | ||
| And that's because people like him, his side of Carrie Cassidy's whistleblower team, they're very big into the idea that these are corporate entities. | ||
| These are like businesses in space. | ||
| Like an alien. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The corporation that owns the... | ||
| It always goes back to a movie. | ||
| It always goes back to a movie. | ||
| The dreams of men, Dan! | ||
| Science fiction is just the dreams of men. | ||
| Quote, William Shakespeare. | ||
| There's something he's going to say later that I don't think is from a movie. | ||
| I listened to this twice and missed it both times and I'm so glad that I ended up finding it because he says something that I think is the pinnacle of ludicrous. | ||
| But we'll get there as we get there. | ||
| For now, we have to find out how did Tony end up getting into this whole situation because I don't think you sign up to be an Illuminati sex slave. | ||
| I think that that's a situation probably where it's... | ||
| You're not thrilled with the situation. | ||
| Wouldn't it be funny if it was actually Stian who sold him? | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| That's totally possible. | ||
| We have a full idea. | ||
| But Rice knew this the whole time, and he's becoming his friend as kind of a way to make up for the mistakes. | ||
| Rice is part of the serious corporation colony. | ||
| And he's keeping tabs on him, too. | ||
| All this is entirely possible. | ||
| But in this clip, we find out that it was absolutely not something that he found on, I don't know, ZipRecruiter. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| Hey, hey! | ||
| They do not advertise with us, Dan! | ||
| I also don't think that if they did, they would like me implying that Illuminati sex slave openings might be posted. | ||
| Why wouldn't you, though? | ||
| If you want to be Illuminati sex slave, check out ZipRecruiter.com. | ||
| Well, I didn't go through... | ||
| I wasn't groomed for the space program. | ||
| I was kind of more of a victim of it. | ||
| In the early years, I had made somebody mad that had access to it, and they put me in that program, the score and back, or whatever, however you want to call it, whatever we call it nowadays, where I was taken at night and did 20 years and put back. | ||
| And during that time, I was a slave. | ||
| So it was done as a punishment to me. | ||
| It wasn't because I was the best man for the job. | ||
| So my particular situation is much different than other people you've heard in that regard. | ||
| But why me and Jason are working together is what I've found is that, you know, since I've done my first, I've done over 40 interviews now, and since the first one's with Dr. Sala, people have reached out to me, and most people don't remember as much, and people that remember quite a bit don't want to talk about it. | ||
| And what I've found is that the absolute best therapy is to speak to other people that experience it, and me and Jason have been able to do that. | ||
| I can respect that a little. | ||
| I love the last part. | ||
| I'm not a big fan of the first part. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So he made somebody who had access to the Secret Space program angry one time. | ||
| And then spent the next 20 years a sex slave. | ||
| It's also kind of important to consider that he's 46 years old. | ||
| And he will later say that this happened in 1982. | ||
| And he has been married for 46 years on top of that. | ||
| You would have to have been 10 years old. | ||
| When this happened. | ||
| So he pissed off someone in the secret space program when he was 10, and as punishment, he was taken off World for 20 years, and then put back into his body the exact moment that he was taken from. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Oh, that's his angle. | ||
| That's all of their thing! | ||
| I thought he was physically taken. | ||
| Good God, no. | ||
| No, this is all in his head. | ||
| Or no, this is all metaphysical. | ||
| No, it actually happened, but he got put back in. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| It's the same thing with... | ||
| So how does his body get back? | ||
| We'll get into it. | ||
| It's the same thing with when we heard that interview with Randy Kramer. | ||
| He had the same situation where he got taken and then... | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I got that one. | ||
| I believe his version of it was that he got cloned or something like that. | ||
| They made a younger clone to put back into... | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| It's all nonsense. | ||
| And I trust you. | ||
| I promise you. | ||
| Please don't trust me. | ||
| I promise you that this will come back. | ||
| Everything will come back. | ||
| So now we've got to learn a little bit more. | ||
| Except for Stian? | ||
| Stian doesn't come back. | ||
| Nor does Escape Artistry. | ||
| How does that not come back? | ||
| It should. | ||
| So we learn here more about Jason. | ||
| And in this clip, it's only a minute long, but he drops a couple of bombshell pieces of information that Carrie does not follow up on until later in the interview. | ||
| The name of the program that I was a part of was called Career Return. | ||
| And it essentially was Earth providing 24,000, approximately, 24,000 ground forces for use by the Mars German breakaway civilization. | ||
| Mars German? | ||
| What we were told initially was that it was going to be used for border patrol. | ||
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Border patrol of what? | |
| What it was, what it amounted to. | ||
| Mars German Fools Flaps! | ||
| Defend their planet. | ||
| There weren't enough of us to fight for them. | ||
| So our mission was to help train, help them build up their defenses. | ||
| How are you being so boring about this? | ||
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You just said Mars German false flag attack! | |
| And the 20 years that I spent in that program... | ||
| I made it up through the rank of major. | ||
| So they're always 20 years. | ||
| Both of them are 20 years. | ||
| It's a nice round number. | ||
| First of all, Mars German is something that should set off alarm bells. | ||
| That should be the first thing that you think! | ||
| I believe... | ||
| That we will learn by the time this is over that we have Nazis in space, and that is unfortunate. | ||
| Certainly, I don't want to be the one to bring you that news. | ||
| Dude, I already assumed that. | ||
| I take no pleasure in reporting that there are Nazis in space, and they're very much in play. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the other part is... | ||
| The only thing worse than a regular Nazi is a space Nazi, Dan! | ||
| When I hear that clip, I can't not think about the Iraq War. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I feel like that is entirely a poetic way of describing what happened with Iraq. | ||
| Because if you want to talk about false flags and things like that, everyone, not everyone, but a lot of people believe that 9-11 was done as a false flag in order to precipitate involvement in Iraq to get Saddam Hussein out of power. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| So you take that piece, that's there. | ||
| Him being like... | ||
| We weren't there to fight. | ||
| We were there to try and train these Martians or aliens in order to figure out border control. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah! | |
| We were out there winning the hearts and minds of the Martian Nazis. | ||
| And we were trying to make it so Iraq could protect itself. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| All I hear is a thinly veiled metaphor for our failed foreign policy over the last, or war policy over the last decade. | ||
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And we don't need the 9-11 false flag. | |
| The regular lies that were told to get us into Iraq should be more than enough for everybody to be like, hey, that's evil, awful shit. | ||
| They lie. | ||
| They literally lied on purpose. | ||
| And we're dying. | ||
| Like, did you hear that George W. Bush got a fucking medal? | ||
| I saw that. | ||
| He just got a fucking medal, Dan! | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
| Look, I'm not going to say anything other than that man should be prosecuted for war crimes. | ||
| Send him to The Hague. | ||
| But at the very least, he shouldn't get a medal. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| That seems like the reverse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The bare minimum is don't give him any medals. | ||
| It's like if you set a building on fire and then you put out the fire and you get an award for putting out the fire. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| Don't even successfully put out the fire. | ||
| My metaphor doesn't track. | ||
| If you set a fire and then we're like, oh, next guy's problem. | ||
| And then we got a medal for the fire. | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So in this next clip, we hear that Jason himself, he already hinted at this. | ||
| He was there for 20 years over in space, working with the Space Germans. | ||
| And, of course, he gets back just minutes after he left. | ||
| Oh, that's nice. | ||
| And you went up through the ranks. | ||
| And how many years do you consider yourself having served in the Secret Space program? | ||
| My term of service in IDARF was just over 20 years. | ||
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It was like 10 years in a couple months. | |
| It's like a... | ||
| It's the worst Mac product. | ||
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Does IDARF eat cats, too? | |
| IDARF stands for, like, interstellar... | ||
| Interplanetary Defense and Readiness Forces, I believe is what IDARF stands for. | ||
| But yeah, that's... | ||
| Secret Space Program can do better. | ||
| Can do better than IDARF. | ||
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IDARF! | |
| Oh, man! | ||
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Woo! | |
| Okay, but in real time... | ||
| Were you gone for, like, you know, three hours, or were you gone for, you know, a longer period of time? | ||
| How does that work in Earth years? | ||
| It worked out that the amount of equal time was 20 years and two months, but my reinsertion back to the initial departure point happened within a couple of hours of my receiving my change of orders. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Okay, so... | ||
| Why a couple of hours? | ||
| Because that can be explained by a night's sleep or something like that. | ||
| A couple hours is very easy for you to be like, that's the amount of time that I wasn't here. | ||
| No one would have noticed if it was overnight. | ||
| But someone would fucking notice if you were gone for 20 years and then came back. | ||
| This is important because... | ||
| I know, but if you can do it within a couple of hours, why can't you do it within 20 minutes? | ||
| Or instantly? | ||
| That makes no sense! | ||
| Why a couple hours? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| You're preaching to the fucking choir. | ||
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I empathize with your complaints. | |
| I'm furious! | ||
| I don't have an answer for that, but there must be a secret space reason. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There's got to be some sort of, like, you know what? | ||
| They still have to do the paperwork on Earth or something like that. | ||
| They still have to do the paperwork? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Instantaneous, I understand. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Because then there could be some sort of a time paradox where two of you exist in the same place. | ||
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I suppose. | |
| Or something like that. | ||
| I suppose. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Anyway, it always is the same with these people because they need there to be like, oh, there's proof, but there's no proof. | ||
| You know, that's the sort of thing. | ||
| Oh, yeah, I was gone for a couple hours. | ||
| You can ask my parents. | ||
| Great. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, and it's not even the reverse, where it's like in contact, where it's like, oh, she was gone for no time at all, but then you have 24 hours of static on the screen or whatever it is. | ||
| They don't even have that. | ||
| It's just like, eh, it was a couple hours. | ||
| No, there's nothing. | ||
| And in this next clip, we get another attempt on Jason's part to imply that there was hard evidence, but there's not really hard evidence anymore. | ||
| The enhancements that we received were nanite-driven. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And once all of those nanites were cleaned from my system, all of the enhancements that I had during the time were gone. | ||
| So any of the... | ||
| So, I mean, when you say nanites, just sorry, but you say nanites, you're talking about nano. | ||
| Nanotechnology. | ||
| Okay, well, we're getting nano right now from the chemtrails, every human on the planet. | ||
| So I doubt that it's actually cleared out of your system completely because we've all got it. | ||
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But given that you're saying you have a special... | |
| ...enhancements that IDARF provided were cleaned out. | ||
| So any of the other nanos or those others present in the atmosphere, there's a short. | ||
| Of course, there's a chance that we're breathing them every day. | ||
| So, he had nanotechnology super soldier enhancements that were put into his body, but they flushed them all out of his system once he left. | ||
| So, can't prove that one either. | ||
| When? | ||
| What? | ||
| When did they flush them all out of his body? | ||
| Right before they put him back a couple hours after he left. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| So, he was physically disappeared. | ||
| I thought, because I thought with our other boy, yeah, he was like... | ||
| Mentally taken away? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I think that was another physical abduction. | ||
| I think all of them... | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| They play fast and loose with details. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I can't really... | ||
| Look, I don't know what IDARF's policy is on this in terms of physical kidnapping or just taking someone's consciousness. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But it's my interpretation that they're talking about physically their bodies going... | ||
| So they like... | ||
| Grabbed him, abducted him, put him in a spaceship, sent him to Mars to fight space Nazis, or to train space Nazis. | ||
| Work with space Nazis. | ||
| No, no, the space Nazis were higher up in the chain of command than him. | ||
| Right, okay. | ||
| They aren't even the ones who you're training or helping at all. | ||
| You're working for space Nazis. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Moon Germans. | ||
| Mars Germans, excuse me. | ||
| So the thing, as I understand it, is they physically take the person away, and then they serve for 20 years, but then, whoops, it's a problem because now you're 30 fucking years old, can't put you back in your bunk bed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So what they do is they take the consciousness out of the person and put it in a 10-year-old clone of the person and then put that back in the bed. | ||
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All right. | |
| But also, they take the consciousness but have to repress the memories. | ||
| If you can transfer consciousness, you could wipe memories. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like, to the point where you would never remember these things. | ||
| Also... | ||
| That technology is, like, there is no reason for them to not improve it to the point where these people can't remember. | ||
| Furthermore, number one point of order. | ||
| All right? | ||
| This is a shadowy group of interstellar traveling space Nazis that can handle all kinds of shit that are abducting children and sending them to act as their slaves or soldiers respectively. | ||
| You just kill them. | ||
| You wouldn't spend all of your time and money, like, rebuilding them and putting them back into a different body. | ||
| You'd just disappear them. | ||
| Because it's part of the IDARF contract. | ||
| Is it part of the IDARF contract? | ||
| I feel like that's not legally binding. | ||
| You're totally right. | ||
| They would just disappear you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because people disappear. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Like, regularly! | ||
| If you were a child, I mean, it's very sad, but it does happen that kids disappear from their homes in the middle of the night, whether it's running away from home or, you know, wasn't Elizabeth Smart taken from her house? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe that's not the one I'm thinking of. | ||
| Most often by somebody you know. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Or the secret space program. | ||
| Or in freak instances, like someone breaks in through your window or something like that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That does happen, so, like, let's say... | ||
| Jason Rice, you know, in the middle of the night, secret space program, takes him up to Mars to be a major or something. | ||
| Yeah, why would they bring him back? | ||
| It makes no sense. | ||
| What, the moral high ground? | ||
| It wouldn't cause any waves. | ||
| They're enslaving him. | ||
| They have no moral high ground. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| There is a fundamental problem with the way these moon Nazis do business. | ||
| They are polite, Dan, alright? | ||
| If you're gonna steal somebody, abduct them, and put them to work for you for 20 years, it is an implicit agreement that politeness dictates you bring them back. | ||
| There's something to that. | ||
| A campfire! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Leave it better than when you found it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Except for get rid of all those nanites first. | ||
| Also true of the campfire. | ||
| But if they took his consciousness and put it in a 10-year-old clone body, they wouldn't have the nanites in there, in the body. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So if you're just displacing the consciousness back... | ||
| This makes no sense. | ||
| I guess what they would say... | ||
| I don't think I believe these guys. | ||
| I guess what they would say in that case, then, is, like, it's not that they put the consciousness in a clone. | ||
| They age-regrets you. | ||
| What? | ||
| They have a magic machine that makes you a ten-year-old again. | ||
| What are you doing wasting it on us? | ||
| Slaves and soldiers! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Man, these space Nazis. | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| They have a lot of contradicting positions on things. | ||
| So we jump away from Jason for a little bit, get back to Tony, hear a little bit of his... | ||
| The person who is actually interesting to hear speak. | ||
| He has a little bit more verve in him, let's say. | ||
| And man, this is like, he's got everything going on in this next clip. | ||
| He is, he did everything. | ||
| Basically, it was a 20 year term that I was taken. | ||
| And in the beginning, I wasn't, the very beginning wasn't a sex slave service. | ||
| It seems I was privately owned. | ||
| And I went through a program. | ||
| CIA remote viewing program where we were classified as clones and trained to do psychic work, like intuitive work. | ||
| And I ended up living in Puerto, Tawantinsuyo, Peru. | ||
| Oh, that's nice. | ||
| I was a psychic that they were drugging, and they could put me under, and I was being used as a security measure for an airplane that shipped cocaine from Porto Tijuana and Suyo to Santa Marta, Colombia. | ||
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Hold on, what? | |
| I was like 1,200 miles. | ||
| Could you give me all of the details on that? | ||
| He was a psychic involved in Iran-Contra. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| I would like all of the details there. | ||
| Carrie does not ask any questions. | ||
| She doesn't ask any questions about that. | ||
| I don't believe so. | ||
| What? | ||
| So he was taken and trained in remote viewing for the CIA. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Which makes sense. | ||
| And classified as a clone. | ||
| Which, I don't understand that. | ||
| And was being drugged. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Was he a clone? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| How could you know? | ||
| You would never know. | ||
| Especially not if he was him. | ||
| And he knew that clones existed, and he was being drugged during all this time, and he was classified as a clone. | ||
| Wouldn't you have to then suspect that you yourself are the clone of a real person who died, or may still be out there? | ||
| It seems to me that he is certain that clones exist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that part, check that box. | ||
| Otherwise, why would you classify people as clones? | ||
| Well, he has a theory here at the end of this clip. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Just wait one second, sorry. | ||
| You called yourself a clone. | ||
| Was that purposeful, or is that a misunderstanding? | ||
| Well, I think it was a misunderstanding, but the doctors that worked on me in the beginning on the Earth that pulled me through that program, which I've traced back through Project Real Flame with the CIA, considered me a clone. | ||
| So I don't know if they were told that so that they were disconnected from us, or if there's some kind of technology where I was cloned and there was a consciousness transfer, which the more I look at it adds up from what I went through. | ||
| Yeah, yep, adds up! | ||
| 20 years of putting them back, there is more than one technology that can do it. | ||
| I think there are many different technologies. | ||
| And certainly the ETs have different technologies that do the same thing. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I don't think there's one technology. | ||
| No, they don't know. | ||
| The ETs have plenty. | ||
| We've got a few. | ||
| Earth doctors confirmed it. | ||
| You get a sense there that Tony, like, the same as earlier, he's got a good answer. | ||
| Like, the idea of I was allergic to a medication so they sold me off. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Cool, dude. | ||
| And then there again, he's like, you know, I was classified as a clone, but it was probably so they dehumanized me. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| The doctors didn't feel like... | ||
| Loved that explanation. | ||
| It was a misunderstanding. | ||
| I'm not really a clone, but they did that so the doctors wouldn't feel like they were fucking with a human. | ||
| I loved it. | ||
| I love that explanation as to why I am once again on his side. | ||
| It's good enough. | ||
| It adds up. | ||
| It's good enough. | ||
| So, also, here in this next clip, this is just because, you know, you want to hear it from the horse's mouth, as it were. | ||
| He also was only gone from Earth for a couple minutes. | ||
| Were you taken off planet for a few hours that amounted to 20 years, or how would you classify that? | ||
| It was the same night. | ||
| I was taken at night after we went to bed. | ||
| We had the UFO experience. | ||
| I had greys and reptiles in my bedroom that carried me off, and they put me back the very same night, and I woke up and had breakfast with my family the next morning. | ||
| This is the plot of Where the Wild Things Are! | ||
| Okay, interesting. | ||
| And what year was that that you lived those 20 years in? | ||
| In my original interviews, it was the school year of 81, so I thought 81, but the more I look back on it, it was around April of 82 that I was taken. | ||
| So he would have been 10. He would have been in fourth grade, based on his age and all that. | ||
| He's a fucking liar. | ||
| The original interviews, he said it's 81, now it's 82. I understand. | ||
| I don't trust him now. | ||
| Nah, that part's fine with me. | ||
| Because I look back on my life, and if I'm trying to pinpoint something, there's a little bit of like... | ||
| I might be a little bit wrong about some dates. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I think that's normal. | ||
| I suppose. | ||
| Especially if you're maybe a clone. | ||
| That is a good point. | ||
| I can't argue with that. | ||
| Although, at the same time, it seems like a massively traumatic event like being kidnapped by aliens would kind of cement the date in your mind. | ||
| Now, Jordan, here's another issue. | ||
| He's a fucking trained remote viewer. | ||
| He should be able to put his brain into the past and see exactly when that happened. | ||
| That'd be too painful for him. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| I don't want to ask him to open up old wounds. | ||
| Yeah, come on, man. | ||
| He goes back and he just sees himself sleeping. | ||
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Ooh, wait. | |
| So then how am I able to do the remote viewing thing if that part was alive? | ||
| Well, that part's true. | ||
| That part has to be true. | ||
| He's just a natural remote viewer. | ||
| But yeah, he goes back, just sees himself having a vivid dream, and it's like, oh, the rest of my life is just going to be a response to this fucking dream. | ||
| Or something. | ||
| It's not a dream. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because here, in this next clip... | ||
| Tony explains what precipitated his coming out and talking about being a secret soldier, super soldier. | ||
| When I came back, I had no memory of the 20 years. | ||
| And I had my memories back of my life. | ||
| So it certainly seems logical that I was taken, whatever my spark of life consciousness was taken out of one and put into another blank slated body and then put back. | ||
| And so that way those years weren't remembered. | ||
| And again, after the 20 years, I always had brief memories. | ||
| But right after the 20-year mark, right after 2000, then I had an MRI done, and that's what triggered the memories. | ||
| Also at that same time was when I discovered Randy Kramer's first interviews that explained about 20 years and how they could do time dilation and put people back in the same night. | ||
| And that's when it all came. | ||
| I was in denial of everything I had remembered. | ||
| I was in complete denial. | ||
| When could I have had time to stand and look out the window of a starship over the planet Ceres and look down? | ||
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Maybe when you're asleep. | |
| Who has the time, though? | ||
| At the end of the day, who has the time to stand out on the bridge of a spaceship and stare into the black abyss? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| But you're here there, man. | ||
| He had all this stuff that came to him and was like, oh, it all makes sense now that I've heard Randy Kramer tell the exact same story on Project Camelot. | ||
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This is like, this is a clone. | |
| It's second generational super soldier stories. | ||
| My favorite phrase in all of Project Camelot is, it certainly seems logical. | ||
| That's my favorite one. | ||
| That's my favorite one. | ||
| It certainly seems logical that... | ||
| They removed my consciousness and put it into a younger body. | ||
| Now, the only conclusion I could come to tell is something batshit crazy. | ||
| Now, Occam's razor dictates that the most complicated explanation is always true. | ||
| Yeah, it's a little much. | ||
| It's actually called Maco's razor. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So, in this next clip, we learn a little bit more about Mars Germans. | ||
| And, man... | ||
| I know we've already talked about it, but it is bad news. | ||
| Fastidious. | ||
| Is that the worst thing that you can say about Mars Germans? | ||
| They're very clean? | ||
| It's bad news. | ||
| Efficient? | ||
| It's bad news, my man, that there are Nazis in space. | ||
| That is not good for anybody. | ||
| So you were dealing with Germans the same as Jason was dealing with Germans? | ||
| The series colony was a German breakaway colony. | ||
| It's a German breakaway colony. | ||
| And you knew they were German because why? | ||
| They spoke German? | ||
| They spoke German. | ||
| Everywhere you went, there was an eagle with a different symbol under it. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| There was the rounded swastika in some places. | ||
| So Nazis, in other words, Nazis. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay, did they have the Nazi... | ||
| Was the society ran... | ||
| Was it run, in essence, by... | ||
| Call them fascists. | ||
| Was this a fascist colony on Ceres? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It was a military. | ||
| It was ran by the military. | ||
| But they were German military. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And they reported to the Antarctica. | ||
| What? | ||
| The high command of Ceres ran Ceres and had absolute power there, but they reported to the high command on Antarctica. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I believe that the high command on Antarctica reported to the reptilians around Jupiter. | ||
| I believe that's the... | ||
| So Antarctica has Nazis now, too. | ||
| What about Phobos? | ||
| What about Demos? | ||
| I'm not familiar with any operations on Phobos. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's too bad. | ||
| Gotcha! | ||
| So, a couple things I want to say really quick. | ||
| On our last episode about Project Camelot, when we were listening to her music... | ||
| There is that line of, like, all planets are yours except Europa. | ||
| And we were all like, what the fuck is she talking about? | ||
| It turns out that that's a reference to 2010, the sequel to 2001 A Space Odyssey. | ||
| I didn't realize that. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| That's why I immediately referenced the space baby. | ||
| Oh, I just... | ||
| That all went over my head. | ||
| I completely thought that she was saying something about, like... | ||
| Her information, not like a movie. | ||
| Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. | ||
| So someone corrected that on our Facebook group, and I appreciate that. | ||
| I felt a little stupid. | ||
| But I've never seen 2010 A Space Odyssey. | ||
| Not many people have. | ||
| Yeah, who cares? | ||
| So the other thing there is, I want to know what's going on on Phobos. | ||
| We never find out. | ||
| How do we not find out? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Carrie doesn't have time. | ||
| So what we do know is that Sirius is run by Mars Germans. | ||
| They speak German. | ||
| He has not proven to me that they are German. | ||
| They speak German and have Nazi regalia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you know who else I would describe doing that? | ||
| Like, 10% of America right now. | ||
| Spiritually, yes. | ||
| But most of them can't speak German. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Most of them are unilingual. | ||
| The thing is that, you know, they're run by Mars Germans. | ||
| They're in Sirius. | ||
| Who report to Antarctica. | ||
| Which means that this guy believes in Hollow Earth. | ||
| That's the linchpin to so much Hollow Earth stuff, is that there are underground Nazis. | ||
| You go inside Antarctica. | ||
| Yeah, now I remember that whole thing from one of our other Project Hamelot episodes. | ||
| There's like New Berlin inside the center of the Earth, and that's where the Fourth Reich is formed and shit like that. | ||
| So he believes in Hollow Earth, but also apparently, this is news to me, the Antarctica Nazis report to reptilians outside of Jupiter. | ||
| Which is exciting. | ||
| He also says that he's never seen a reptilian. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| So that's a problem. | ||
| But he's convinced that they're in the mix. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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See, now that I respect way more than if he was like, yeah, I saw one once. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| It's difficult for me. | ||
| But it's not the answer you would expect from an outright con person. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That makes me think that he's dealing with some stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's metaphorically describing like... | ||
| Vivid hallucinations or dreams he's had. | ||
| Stuff like that. | ||
| This sounds to me like there's some sort of trauma that he is dealing with somewhere. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| And it doesn't have to be anything... | ||
| I can't speculate as to what it is, but it seems like this story is not a lie, not I'm trying to get something out of somebody. | ||
| This is one of our classic Project Camelot episodes where it's like... | ||
| Something went down. | ||
| Maybe, maybe. | ||
| And I'm reacting to it. | ||
| I think that that's entirely possible. | ||
| The reason I'm still comfortable talking about it is, like, we're not making fun of that. | ||
| And also, I'm not convinced that necessarily that is the case. | ||
| Because he's not really, like, there's a lack of emotion behind it. | ||
| There's not, like, he doesn't seem... | ||
| Like, really troubled by any of this stuff. | ||
| And I think it's equally likely that he saw a bunch of movies that maybe he was too young to see when he was a kid. | ||
| Gave him some vivid dreams. | ||
| He had some sort of, like, really serious dreams. | ||
| Maybe he got into drugs a little bit later in life. | ||
| Maybe he had a bad trip or something like that. | ||
| He read the book A Few Dare Call It A Conspiracy. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Any of these things are possible that would plant the seeds for him later to hear Randy Kramer's interview and be like, that explains everything. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They create this mythology about himself dating back to when he was 10 and went off planet for 20 years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It's entirely, I mean, all that stuff is possible. | |
| I'm not convinced. | ||
| When you hear stuff like the guy in Vietnam who was fighting beetle beings, that's PTSD. | ||
| That's a different animal than this. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| This, to me, is still like, we're cool on this. | ||
| Even if it's possible. | ||
| I suppose I went too far in saying trauma, so much as I mean more like inciting event. | ||
| No, but trauma is possible. | ||
| Yeah, no, no, I'm not ruling out trauma. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think you're unfair to suggest that that is a possibility. | ||
| But we have no idea of knowing anything beyond that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, I still feel okay laughing about this. | ||
| Yeah, no, no, I'm weighing. | ||
| It still feels... | ||
| Far more real his responses are, because in between all of the crazy space... | ||
| I think he's a clever guy. | ||
| I think the sense that I get from listening to this is he's someone who actually asks, what's the problem with this idea? | ||
| What would someone's critique of my narrative be? | ||
| And you're like, oh, well, I was allergic to that medication. | ||
| That's why I went over it every day. | ||
| I wonder, I would like to know what other medications he is allergic to. | ||
| I would like a detailed medical history, sir, before I will believe any of this nonsense about being allergic to a sex slave drug. | ||
| I want you to submit yourself to an allergy panel. | ||
| Let's see if you got... | ||
| What happens if I throw a peanut at you? | ||
| How do you feel about spiders? | ||
| Let's just start there. | ||
| You're allergic to spiders? | ||
| What about spider leadership? | ||
| I was hanging out with the spider leadership, but I couldn't stop sneezing. | ||
| That's why I got fired from so many other jobs. | ||
| True, true. | ||
| All these damn spiders that look like humans. | ||
| Spiders. | ||
| Stealing our jobs at the borders. | ||
| So, Jordan, he, Tony, was deeply involved in a command and control structure where the Mars Germans... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Will it surprise you? | ||
| It won't. | ||
| To learn that Jason also had run-ins with the space Germans. | ||
| They are fucking everywhere! | ||
| And he has the fucking funniest take on this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| His explanation for their speaking German is so funny. | ||
| How did you know they were Germans and did they speak German? | ||
| Yes, that's a great question. | ||
| I knew they were Germans because the other... | ||
| The officers that I first encountered that were from Mars Germany, they indicated and self-identified themselves as such. | ||
| Speaking the German language was something that was reserved among the leadership of the Mars German military. | ||
| If any of the Earth soldiers knew how to speak German, then that was turned off, if you will. | ||
| What? | ||
| They reserved that language specifically so that they had a means to communicate among their own citizens without others being able to determine what it was that they were saying. | ||
| Now here's the problem with that. | ||
| German is a pretty easy language to learn. | ||
| It's really not hard. | ||
| Especially if you come from a Germanic language like ours. | ||
| It's something you can pick up fairly easily. | ||
| Especially if you're not 10 when they take you up into space. | ||
| Like, there's a decent chance maybe you took German in high school or something like that. | ||
| If you are these soldiers that are up there, not all of them were taken out of their beds at 10. You would hope not. | ||
| That would be prohibitive. | ||
| That would be a bad strategy for them. | ||
| It would be tough. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, conceivably, some of these people would just have to know German. | ||
| Maybe they come from a German family. | ||
| You know, any of these? | ||
| It's entirely possible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, that would be... | ||
| And, like I said, it's super easy to pick up languages that are very closely connected to English. | ||
| Now, what they could do is a space language. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| See, now that, I think that's unreasonable. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I think a space language is unreasonable. | ||
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How dare you? | |
| That flies in the face of what I know about human beings and the way that we create communities. | ||
| Yeah, but they're Mars Germans. | ||
| They hold a strong nationalistic perspective, should they be Nazis. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So what would mean more to them than maintaining a connection to the Vaterland? | ||
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I see that as being fine. | |
| Now what I would suggest... | ||
| And they're Nazis, so they love excluding people. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| It would be almost impossible to stop people from learning German. | ||
| It would be very tough. | ||
| That being said, like... | ||
| You know, you can invent a language. | ||
| Like, they tried to do that with Esperanto. | ||
| I mean, there's what? | ||
| Like, pigeon speak and that kind of stuff? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| That many people use? | ||
| I used to speak pigeon back when I lived in Hawaii. | ||
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Did you? | |
| Yeah, I don't remember any of it now, but I used to be able to understand people. | ||
| That's the one that's like, iggity-piggity. | ||
| It's wild stuff. | ||
| Yeah, that one. | ||
| I can't remember much of it, but I have very... | ||
| Much like these guys have memories of space. | ||
| I have memories of being, like, a ten-year-old boy and, like, speaking pigeon. | ||
| Germans teaching you pigeon? | ||
| Space Germans? | ||
| Space Germans! | ||
| Teaching me space pigeons! | ||
| Damn it! | ||
| I would say that if your plan is to make it so that there's a language that no one else can understand, there's a very easy way to do that. | ||
| Make your own fucking language. | ||
| Don't use German. | ||
| Now, the connection to Germany is, that is a good point. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I take that as a good point. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| However, I do think that it undermines their goal of using German because, like I said, it's too easy. | ||
| See, I didn't get that they were doing it as anything other than an exclusive thing where only the officers are allowed to communicate in German, not because they don't want other people to understand so much, but because it gives them a sense of class. | ||
| He said that if you learn German or if you know German, it gets turned off. | ||
| They turned it off! | ||
| I don't know what that means. | ||
| They gotta switch! | ||
| They turn off the babble fish. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Oh, that's rude. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not positive what's going on with that turning off thing. | ||
| But no, he very specifically says there that it's an idea so they can talk and you won't understand what they're saying. | ||
| Oh, fair. | ||
| So, for that, like, there's fucking words that we've taken from German. | ||
| Like, if someone's talking in German, you'll be like, oh, hold on, what was that? | ||
| Did you see a waffle? | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
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Hold on. | |
| There's plenty of them. | ||
| Is there a cognate somewhere around here? | ||
| Yeah, there's so many of those. | ||
| So that's a bad plan on the part of the Mars Germans. | ||
| I don't respect their planning on that end, but whatever. | ||
| I don't believe any of this is true. | ||
| I'm telling you the Nazis tend to overreach. | ||
| Sooner or later you're going to find a situation where they just think their authority goes too far and then they fuck it up. | ||
| This might be where they played the role of Icarus and flew too close to the linguistic sun. | ||
| By getting further away from it and going to Mars. | ||
| And the moon. | ||
| So in this next clip, Jason talks about his time up there and he says some things that are like, oh man, this is so close to Alex Jones. | ||
| Now, you claim that you were going off planet, out interstellar, going to other civilizations, and you called it a false flag, and I'm not sure why you're calling it false flag. | ||
| Me neither. | ||
| So we went as part of an expeditionary force that would be going and, in essence, sort of sounds like colonizing other planets, offering our services as a military... | ||
| Colonizing is offering services. | ||
| This may be an issue with white people. | ||
| Are there some deceptive layer in there, it sounds like? | ||
| If you're using the word false flag, you're trying to say that we weren't really fighting for them? | ||
| You know, like colonizing peoples do. | ||
| Well, those that were pulling the strings, the Draco, were also responsible for the organization and the invasion, creating the hybrids to create the circumstance where... | ||
| We were invited in to help. | ||
| Because that way they create the problem and the solution at the same time. | ||
|
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Nice. | |
| They get their foot in the door and they're able to franchise this control mechanism out to other planets. | ||
| Space globalists. | ||
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God! | |
| Damn the space globalists! | ||
| What he's describing, and I'm sitting here just like, spit it out, Rice. | ||
| Get it out of your goddamn mouth. | ||
| No kidding. | ||
| He's describing exactly what Alex says the globalists do to third world countries. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| This is exactly the same sort of storyline, but now we have... | ||
| Third world planets. | ||
| It's like Warcraft becoming Starcraft. | ||
| You're playing the same game, but now there's moons. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's just the same thing. | ||
| This is all just anti-globalist rhetoric. | ||
| Yeah, pretty much. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| This is so stupid. | ||
| It makes sense that there's such a consistency in this because it does tap into one of those big fears, especially among white people, which is like, they're going to do it to us. | ||
| Look at all the colonizing that we did and how we did exactly what we're blaming these fictional people of doing. | ||
| Because there's that underlying fear of like, Oh, we've got it coming. | ||
| We just have to fight really hard to make sure it doesn't happen, even though we deserve it, 100%. | ||
| But at no point in either of these guys telling of it, do we on Earth run any kind of risk from these space Nazis. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| There's sort of an implied cooperation between our secret space program and the Mars Germans. | ||
| Go along to get along, Dad. | ||
| Which, whatever. | ||
| I am just fascinated by how almost no matter what, where you go, these disparate places, you think that they're talking about different things, but you scratch underneath the surface a little bit, and you find the exact same ideology being promoted. | ||
| So you see this guy who's trying to talk about his time being a super soldier on Mars or whatever, and he's just saying the same things with different adjectives that Alex Jones is saying. | ||
| You look at Jim Baker and you think he's a Christian preacher. | ||
| You just see the same Republican alt-right talking points about the migrant caravan and stuff like that. | ||
| All of these worlds are so blended together with just different clothing on. | ||
| They're doing the same thing, which is... | ||
| The sort of rhetoric that leads towards the fascist uprising. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like the reason... | ||
| It makes sense that that happens, though, is because they all hang out in the same corner of the internet, where it's like, each of these were individual, and then somebody had an interest in both Christianity and Alex Jones. | ||
| And so they kind of cross-pollinated into different message boards, and people just kept going from each... | ||
| Place to each place. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But also what they do is like all of these three worlds, beyond them being like based in con, the con job, you know, beyond that, what they do, their primary purpose, like Carrie Cassidy, she's been doing this for years and hasn't found shit out about space. | ||
| Kind of amazing she still doesn't know a goddamn thing. | ||
| She doesn't know a dick about space. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Then with Alex Jones, he's been going 20-something years on the radio, hasn't proven one thing about the globalists. | ||
| He hasn't had any victories against the globalists, except what he pretends about the 2016 election. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, you've got Jim Baker. | ||
| He hasn't achieved anything except selling his stupid buckets, right? | ||
| But what they do behind the scenes and their actual effect on society is to sow distrust of... | ||
| Like mainstream sources. | ||
| What they do is they try and put a sliver into your brain, a kernel into your brain, of a distrust of a shared reality. | ||
| What they do is they try and encourage you to use their worldview to see the world as opposed to the reality that we all share. | ||
| And by doing that, you weaken the ability of society to work as a cohesive unit. | ||
| So what they are is they're really actually super... | ||
| Super, like, profoundly damaging influences on the world. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they're playing the same game just from different angles. | ||
| It's fascinating to me that all these people should really... | ||
| I mean, you can't take them to prison for this, but, like, we should... | ||
| I don't know what you do, but they need to be... | ||
| They need to have some sort of consequence for their behavior. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Unless you can prove anything you say. | ||
| Like, if Carrie Cassidy came to me tomorrow with a reptilian... | ||
| And was like, hey Dan, this is my friend Gleorb. | ||
| I'd be like... | ||
| I want to meet Stan. | ||
| I'll be like, I'll be goddamned, Kerry. | ||
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How about that? | |
| How about you? | ||
| High five, we're going to move on. | ||
| We'll do another Wacky Wednesday episode where I'm like, hey guys, we fucked up. | ||
| Now Mark Richards is still a murderer. | ||
| But there are aliens, and they're in play. | ||
| Maybe we should believe some of the stuff she's saying. | ||
| I also think... | ||
| Well, I also think that it makes perfect sense that these worlds dovetail into the right wing, because as the right wing has found objective reality to be their main enemy, so their world pulls poorly in reality. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So they have to create. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But some of that, I think... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's sort of a chicken and the egg thing. | ||
| It's difficult to say whether or not the right wing picked up that strategy from these sorts of communities and seeing the success that they have with indoctrinating people or if it's... | ||
| I think it's more of a feedback loop. | ||
| They just keep pinging it back and forth to each other and it only gets stronger as it goes along. | ||
| It's no surprise that we see... | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| They take each other down. | ||
| They pull each other down further. | ||
| I don't know if we're going to come to any large truth. | ||
| I don't know if we're doing anything other than just saying things strongly without any backing up on it. | ||
| Well, I think it's important when these things come up to trace these lines between these worlds. | ||
| I think that's something that needs to be brought up because it's important. | ||
| They're all working to undermine shared reality. | ||
| That's fine if the shared reality is evil and wrong. | ||
| But if it's not, then you are. | ||
| That's my point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, anyway. | ||
| But bringing that point up to people who believe that their reality is right only makes them angrier. | ||
| Well, that's why I don't talk to them. | ||
| Yeah, exactly, right? | ||
| That's why I tell them to hit the bricks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Get out of here, Rice. | ||
| You need to be more like Nancy Pelosi, Dan. | ||
| We need to reach across the aisle. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's what we gotta do. | ||
| So, in this next clip. | ||
| I told you that there was a clip that I found that I had missed when I was going over the episode originally, and I'm so glad I found. | ||
| Because this made me laugh so fucking hard. | ||
| I need you to put your mic down for this. | ||
| This is Jason explaining how it all got started. | ||
| Okay! | ||
| Alright, I'm in! | ||
| This explanation is unlike anything I've ever heard on Project Camelot. | ||
| It is lunacy. | ||
| The Dracos were behind the scenes pulling the strings. | ||
| Because the original formation of IDAR goes back to the Mars Germans getting out of their original moon base lease, in which they leased the property from the Draco in order to build their first moon base. | ||
| In order to get out of that lease, they had to do a couple of things. | ||
| They had to provide some troops to the Draco for use where and when they needed them, which was what? | ||
| The IDAR fleets were. | ||
| And they also had to find another tenant. | ||
| That other tenant that they found was the Cabal. | ||
| The rest of Earth's SSP programs. | ||
| They're the ones who took over the Mars Germans' original moon base. | ||
| So, Jordan, I know you followed that because of your laughter. | ||
| It turns out this was a sublease situation that broke bad. | ||
| It was a sublease... | ||
| Okay! | ||
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Alright, how long was the original lease for? | |
| Forever. | ||
| Yeah, it has to be. | ||
| Otherwise, why would you be willing to give up troops? | ||
| No, see, that is not a standard part of a lease. | ||
| No, finding a new tenant? | ||
| That I'm fine with. | ||
| That I'm fine with. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, that's good. | ||
| How are we ever going to find a new tenant on the moon? | ||
| Dude, that would make renting... | ||
| Real weird if every time you needed to get out of your lease, you had to bring troops into it. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| On the off chance that the landlord needs troops. | ||
| Also, I love the idea of, like, I'm looking for a new place. | ||
| I'm on Padmapper. | ||
| I'm checking out what's going on around Chicago. | ||
| What's this? | ||
| Moonbase! | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| Wait, it's furnished? | ||
| You do have to sign an infinite lease, though, and join IDARF. | ||
| Can we change that acronym? | ||
| I don't know if I can do that. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| It's a lease situation. | ||
| It's contract law. | ||
| So we're flying through space. | ||
| We're living on the moon. | ||
| We're not. | ||
| Mars Germans are. | ||
| Germans are working with the Draco. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| Leasing the moon from them. | ||
| The Draco are behind the scenes. | ||
| Is it the whole moon or is it just some part of the moon? | ||
| It's just the moon base. | ||
| The big moon base that the Mars Germans had on there. | ||
| For just a moon base? | ||
| Which at that point I guess they would have been moon Germans. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure how that works. | ||
| Or maybe they're Mars Germans who are on the moon. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Oh, also another really funny part about this is like... | ||
| Tony says that he's been to the moon, or, like, gone by it and seen it and stuff like that, and so Carrie brings up the stuff that the guy with the telescope, who works at the bus station, told her. | ||
| Okay, alright. | ||
| She's like, do you see any buildings on the moon? | ||
| He's like, nope. | ||
| Because, of course, the base that they're talking about is underground. | ||
| Oh, it's an underground base? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
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Why not? | |
| You sound foolish. | ||
| How could you not assume it was underground? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| How could I not assume it's underground? | ||
| All bets are off. | ||
| Everybody would see it. | ||
| Everything's on the table. | ||
| The guy with a telescope who works at a bus station would see it if it was above ground. | ||
| Yeah, but if the Draco are involved, they can probably camouflage it in some way. | ||
| Or it's on the dark side. | ||
| Maybe it just looks like the moon. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Any of these things are possible. | ||
| So, it's a lease. | ||
| It's a lease. | ||
| Who wrote that contract? | ||
| I want to know who signed it in the first place. | ||
| Where's the courts? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| It's a lease. | ||
| That's how the secret space program got into the space. | ||
| I am taking you to civil court unless you give me troops and a new tenant. | ||
| So crazy. | ||
| Uh-oh, we want to get out of this moon base, but we have to find somebody. | ||
| Let's get the globalists. | ||
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You could just go into space! | |
| There's no way. | ||
| What are they going to do? | ||
| Hey, hey, if you break this lease, we're going to murder everybody. | ||
| Why do you want to get out of the lease? | ||
| Oh, I mean, have you ever been to the moon? | ||
| It's drafting. | ||
| It's not that good. | ||
| They got sick of putting plastic up on the windows. | ||
| Look, I have survived in a lot of bad apartments in Chicago. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| If you're putting plastic up on the window, maybe start looking for a new place. | ||
| It's a little bit drafty. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I always put up plastic on the windows. | ||
| That's my steez. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I think that if you were, I don't know, moon Germans, you might want to keep a foothold on the moon. | ||
| Does it imply that they went to... | ||
| They can't afford it. | ||
| But would it imply that they downloaded it to... | ||
| That's why they had to get out of the lease! | ||
| They went to another moon base? | ||
| Is that possible? | ||
| They were trying to... | ||
| They went to a more affordable moon base a little bit down the way? | ||
| They went from a one-bedroom to a studio, basically? | ||
| Is that what happened? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| This made me so happy. | ||
| When I heard that, I was like, how the fuck did I miss that? | ||
| Oh, it's because Jason's voice is so fucking weird. | ||
| Yeah, exactly, right? | ||
| It's a lease issue. | ||
| So let me explain how this whole thing started. | ||
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All right. | |
| So it turns out the original Germans, they were not yet moon Germans. | ||
| Earth Germans. | ||
| They were on their way to becoming moon Germans. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Not yet, though. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Could not read Draco. | ||
| So they just trusted these Draco. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| To write up this lease for him, and they're like, hey, listen, you guys seem cool. | ||
| We're German Nazis. | ||
| Let's do this. | ||
| If there's one thing I learned from the midterm elections, it's that there isn't rent control in most places. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| I assume the moon doesn't have rent control, so they're probably boosting that rent up. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| What are they paying? | ||
| And with what? | ||
| What's the currency? | ||
| Do they just chase quick pay? | ||
| Do-do-do-do-do, Dracos. | ||
| No, we know that they like to feast on humans, so they probably pay them with blood. | ||
| Oh, well then why give them troops? | ||
| Is it monthly? | ||
| Is it monthly? | ||
| What are months like on the moon? | ||
| What are Draco months? | ||
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On the moon! | |
| Well, we could find out what moon months are. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's reasonable. | ||
| We can't find out what Draco months are. | ||
| Dracos don't use the Gregorian calendar. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So what's their schedule? | ||
| Allegedly, from this interview, they're based in Jupiter. | ||
| That's where the head command... | ||
| Oh, so their months are infinite! | ||
| That might be why rent's so high. | ||
| Yeah, that could be why rent is so high. | ||
| Six-year-long months. | ||
| Maybe the issue is they were trying to avoid paying rent at all. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Have you considered that possible? | ||
| So they sign a... | ||
| It does imply a contract, for sure. | ||
| Oh, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So they sign a year lease. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But they don't understand how long Jupiter works. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| How long the orbit of Jupiter is. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| What length of time is going on, right? | ||
| So they're like, oh shit, we won't have to pay this for 10, 20, 30 years, right? | ||
| Then everyone high fives. | ||
| Everybody's doing great. | ||
| They realize they didn't save enough money to pay for the rent. | ||
| So they're in a crunch, right? | ||
| Finally, they're like, okay. | ||
| We'll break the lease. | ||
| We'll give you IDARF. | ||
| And then we'll get the SSP in here. | ||
| Because if there's one thing I know about space Nazis, they love fooling Americans. | ||
| That's just true. | ||
| Take great joy in it. | ||
| Take pride in it. | ||
| So apparently a Jupiter year is 11.8 Earth years. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So it's not that much longer. | ||
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Right. | |
| So it would be like a year is a month, more or less. | ||
| A little less than that. | ||
| But yeah, so... | ||
| I can see this. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| The other thing that really tickles me is the idea, like, because there has to be a contract. | ||
| If there's a lease, there's a contract. | ||
| What responsibilities do the Draco have for upkeep? | ||
| Ooh, that's a good question. | ||
| Do they have to come fix the door or whatever if the door is faulty? | ||
| Is there code? | ||
| Is there building codes on the moon? | ||
| What kind of regulation? | ||
| Is there a regulatory environment? | ||
| Is there a renter's bill of rights on the moon? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I want to know all about this. | ||
| Who do they get to mediate in some kind of dispute like this? | ||
| You can't have a Draco mediator. | ||
| You can't have a space Nazi mediator. | ||
| Clearly it doesn't come up because they were able to reach rapprochement when they gave some troops. | ||
| Yeah, they should have gotten the cabal to move in. | ||
| They should have had a few attorneys on hand. | ||
| I bet they could have got a better deal. | ||
| This is my favorite thing ever. | ||
| And it pisses me off that Carrie doesn't ask a follow-up question. | ||
| Because this is like... | ||
| Excuse me, space police? | ||
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What? | |
| Hey, Carrie, do your whole show on this. | ||
| Because this means... | ||
| I understand the idea that there's war-based space law. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| You can't bomb some other civilization or something like that. | ||
| I'm willing to go with you that far. | ||
| The Phobos conventions. | ||
| There's civil law in space? | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| He's crazy to me. | ||
| Carrie needs to dig into that. | ||
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Come on. | |
| I'm pissed off she didn't. | ||
| What kind of universe doesn't exist without civil law? | ||
| Are there space elections? | ||
| Ooh, that's a good question. | ||
| They're like... | ||
| I think that's assuming that... | ||
| They're all tyrannies in space. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| It's all dictatorship. | ||
| You're tossing out a lot of democratic ideals that can't be applied to interstellar travel. | ||
| Anyway... | ||
| No matter what Mark Richards has ever brought to our lives, whether it's raptors love chocolate and they'll kill a baby for it, any of that stuff, nothing to me tops... | ||
| Space lease? | ||
| Space lease. | ||
| That's the best fucking thing I've ever heard from one of these space weirdos. | ||
| Oh my god, give me a TNT show with an attorney who litigates civil space law, and I will watch the shit out of that. | ||
| Now I'm just a small country Phobos lawyer. | ||
| I don't know about your big moon codes, how you guys have a thriving entertainment district here on the moon. | ||
| Yeah, it would be great. | ||
| Your Honor, we would like to... | ||
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Oh no, there's chocolate in the courtroom! | |
| Great. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| I love it so much. | ||
| So, that has to do with space law. | ||
| It turns out that Tony has some other things he wants to bring up about space law that I find preposterous. | ||
| But this made me... | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| The space lease, there's nothing that will ever be better than that. | ||
| Because it's such a boring lie. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's so great. | ||
| I love Jason Rice, if only for that. | ||
| But here Tony comes in with some other weird space laws that he might have been involved in breaking. | ||
| Can't have diarrhea in the pool, even in space. | ||
| You said Ceres was doing something illegal. | ||
| What illegal thing were they doing, for example? | ||
| We routinely stole cargo from other colonies within the solar system. | ||
| Space pirates! | ||
| He thinks he's Han Solo. | ||
| He thinks he's a space pirate! | ||
| And there were combat actions that happened. | ||
| There's a law that says in our solar system... | ||
| That all the colonies are not allowed to attack each other. | ||
| That there's some sort of treaty about that. | ||
| And that wasn't the case. | ||
| There were times when we would steal. | ||
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And there's a lot. | |
| You know, I wasn't really prepared to think through every infraction. | ||
| Oh, do you regret it? | ||
| There was a lot that they did wrong. | ||
| There was bootleg things from Earth. | ||
| That's one of the hardest things that researchers have had with my testimony is that we used to listen to Earth music. | ||
| That we used to do cargo runs to Diego Garcia's where we picked up military hardware or any kind of military cargo. | ||
| We went to Diego Garcia in the middle of the night and only a few personnel, handful of personnel, knew we were there. | ||
| And we would take cargo on. | ||
| And one of the... | ||
| A music player! | ||
| A music player! | ||
| They were getting books and movies from Earth. | ||
| What? | ||
| I don't understand what's wrong with them. | ||
| What about hooch? | ||
| There's a law against it. | ||
| There's a law against it. | ||
| The media from Earth has, I guess, mind control signals in it. | ||
| And as a result, we were only able to listen to one song at a time. | ||
| Like, at the end of the day, on the way back to the base, we would listen to one song. | ||
| And that only went on for a short time. | ||
| They started fighting over what song, what kind of music to play. | ||
| So the captain nixed it. | ||
| It did happen. | ||
| It's been the hardest thing for the real hardcore researchers to believe from my testimony because it's so illegal. | ||
| It's an illegal thing to do out there. | ||
| Okay, well, I think that's interesting that you think that. | ||
| Interesting phrasing. | ||
| Interesting that you think that. | ||
| I think it's interesting that you think that. | ||
| Carrie, do you have a book of space laws? | ||
| I am really sorry if you feel that way about something I said. | ||
| Earth music is illegal in space. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it has mind control messages in it. | ||
|
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Of course. | |
| But they could listen to one song, which I'm guessing is East Bounded Down. | ||
| East Bounded Down. | ||
| Well, he says that they're on cargo runs or something like that. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Or either that or C.W. McCall. | ||
| Convoy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is a rubber duck. | ||
| Yeah, why not? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You're listening to something from the era of truckin' songs. | ||
| See, I got way worse. | ||
| I went all the way back into Prohibition-era gangs. | ||
| Like, they're bringing space hooch across stellar lines or whatever it is. | ||
| See, if you wanted to really gild the lily, that's what he would have said. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Mercy, we're bringing this American music to y 'all. | ||
| If I were him, what I would have chosen is Rush. | ||
| You would have chosen Rush? | ||
| Yeah, the 2112 Overture, because that's like 20 minutes long or something like that. | ||
| It is a long song. | ||
| And it's like four songs in one, man. | ||
| Beat those space laws on a technicality! | ||
| Is that how that works? | ||
| Listen to prog rock up in space. | ||
| How perfect is prog rock in space? | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| All the priests, all the temples, all the sea rinks, as you're driving around in space. | ||
| See, now I would want to go with something with a spacey time signature. | ||
| I would want to go with like a take five. | ||
| I would want to go with some Dave Brubeck in there. | ||
| Get a five four, maybe get a seven four. | ||
| Let's see how it goes. | ||
| Space age bachelor. | ||
| I would go with... | ||
| Honestly, what I would end up doing is probably trying to annoy and piss off the people I'm in space with. | ||
|
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What? | |
| You? | ||
| I would choose, like, the Duke of Earl. | ||
| Stop saying dukedom, Dan. | ||
|
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Stop it. | |
| Space music. | ||
| Space lease. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
|
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I've got a new space lease on life now, Dan. | |
| I love that there is real estate law in space. | ||
| Can't bootleg. | ||
| It is amazing. | ||
| It seems like a repressive, awful... | ||
| It's amazing how mundane their space lives are! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Their space lives are so mundane. | ||
| But so restricted. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah. | |
| You can listen to music, you can't have books, no movies. | ||
| Or, that does imply that there's space music. | ||
| There's, like, Mars music that the Mars Germans make that doesn't have mind control messages in it. | ||
| By the way, yes it does. | ||
| They're fucking Nazis. | ||
| If that technology exists, they're the ones using it. | ||
| It's actually all Husker do. | ||
| That's all Husker do in Mars, Germany. | ||
| Space Wagner. | ||
| I just, like... | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| No, the right choice is that all you can listen to in space... | ||
| Is every cover of The Spake Zarathustra. | ||
| Also Sprock Zarathustra? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, I'm going to go with... | ||
| The many covers of that that assholes have done over the years. | ||
| Shit, what's the metal band with very meticulous timing? | ||
| Dream Theater? | ||
| I'm going to go with Dream Theater. | ||
| That's kind of like metal prog. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| You're back on prog rock, baby. | ||
| I'm back on prog rock. | ||
| Maybe some Jethro Tull. | ||
| Ah, can't do Jethro Tull. | ||
| Some rock flute. | ||
| Can't do Jethro Tull. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think anybody... | ||
| They stole a Grammy, Dan. | ||
| Can't allow that. | ||
| I don't think anybody who's listening knows who this is, but there's a comedian named Jason Earl Folks. | ||
| And if you know him, go watch some videos of Jethro Tull, because he looks almost exactly like young Ian Anderson. | ||
|
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Yeah, he does. | |
| And it freaks me the fuck out. | ||
| It's like, why is Jason Earl Folks running around with a flute? | ||
| What the fuck is going on? | ||
| I think the bigger question, though, is why isn't Jason Earl Folks running around with a flute? | ||
| I would be Ian Anderson every fucking Halloween if I were him. | ||
|
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Oh, for sure. | |
| I'd just go around. | ||
| I would learn how to play the flute if I were him. | ||
| I would be screaming Aqualung at people. | ||
| Just, not even the song, just Aqualung! | ||
| No, I just see anybody be like, hey, Aqualung! | ||
| Really annoy people. | ||
| Turns out that's sort of what I'm, what I... | ||
| It does seem kind of like what you're into. | ||
| It seems like a trend. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially when it comes to music. | ||
| I wonder why I do a podcast about Alex Jones. | ||
| High tolerance. | ||
| Anyway, there's a lot of space laws. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And that's an interesting thing to find out. | ||
| Here we get to our last clip. | ||
| We need space tort reform. | ||
| That's what I think. | ||
| I would love to run for space office. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| I think that what I'm hearing here... | ||
| It's an untenable system of space regulation. | ||
| I want to be the populist of space. | ||
| Come in and be like, we're deregulating the entire real estate market. | ||
| We are deregulating music laws. | ||
| Freedom of speech, the First Amendment for space. | ||
| Alright, I wouldn't start with deregulating real estate. | ||
| Dan, I don't know if you've... | ||
| They don't know about that. | ||
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I don't know if you've heard about the history of deregulating real estate law. | |
| They don't know about that up there. | ||
| We'll get super rich off this. | ||
| Oh, what's going to happen? | ||
| The economy of Mars is going to collapse? | ||
| What do we give a shit? | ||
| Here's what I'm doing. | ||
| Here's what I'm saying. | ||
| I want to nominate Zephyr Teachout. | ||
| As Space Attorney General. | ||
| Honestly, that name, it fits. | ||
| Right? | ||
| See? | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| She should have been Space Attorney General the whole time. | ||
| Not to take anything away from her. | ||
| We need a real progressive voice advocating for renters' rights in space. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So, we reach our last clip here, and tragedy befalls the broadcast. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| After Carrie asks them to just, hey, why don't you guys freestyle for a little bit? | ||
| Tell me anything that we might have missed. | ||
| Trouble strikes. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Just for, you know, five or ten minutes or whatever, whatever you'd like to cover if you think we haven't dealt with it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, Carrie, first thing, I'm reading the chat here and it looks like we're not online. | ||
|
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I'm kidding. | |
| No! | ||
| Apologies to my audience. | ||
| Don't know what happened. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| This thing was recording, looking like it was recording. | ||
| It's a mystery as to what happened. | ||
| Draco interfere! | ||
| Stop the broadcast. | ||
| It's not a mystery. | ||
| And we're going to have to invite you guys back. | ||
| Maybe you can come back next week or as soon as you have time. | ||
| And let's do it again, if you don't mind. | ||
|
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It'd be my pleasure. | |
| All right. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Really appreciate it. | ||
| No idea what the hell is going on. | ||
|
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You said it at the beginning of the broadcast, what's going on? | |
| We can talk about some things that are pretty far out there. | ||
| So I think having some technology. | ||
| High strangeness is par for the course. | ||
| There's a real good chance. | ||
| Even the way he said that was so boring. | ||
| He is implying that there's some sort of... | ||
| High strangeness means alien interference. | ||
| Yeah, exactly, right? | ||
| Yeah, he's saying that the Dracos or Moon Nazis have... | ||
| Yeah, we are being interfered with by aliens. | ||
| Anyways, I guess we'll see you next week. | ||
| Here's my Occam's Razor answer for what happened. | ||
| Carrie was super distracted by the idea of having two people on Skype simultaneously and forgot to hit fucking record. | ||
| That's what happened. | ||
| She put, like, a thing at the beginning of the episode where she's trying to make it seem nefarious that the video didn't record, but she has the audio of it. | ||
| You fucking just forgot. | ||
| Oh, so this is all audio. | ||
| I thought you had still found this anyways. | ||
| Like, maybe it wasn't streaming. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| She had recorded the audio. | ||
| But the video she was recording through YouTube. | ||
| She was streaming it live on YouTube and recording it that way, not through, like, the way we do it through recording software. | ||
| So she clearly has a bad process that she follows, and she, look, she's done a lot of shows, sure, but that doesn't mean that she didn't forget to hit record once. | ||
| It happens. | ||
| We've done a couple shows where it's... | ||
| We've lost a couple shows. | ||
| And those are not usually instances of me not hitting record. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| That would be crazy. | ||
| And very few of those times we have been too drunk to record. | ||
| None. | ||
| There have been a couple of instances where I had, like, almost no space remaining on my computer because I just didn't know how to erase temporary files. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Stuff like that. | ||
| That was an interesting day for us. | ||
| So we end up with, like, five minutes of an episode recorded and the rest is mute. | ||
| You know, it's like, yeah, you know, technical issues do happen, especially when you're kind of dumb like me or Carrie. | ||
| She just fucking forgot to hit record. | ||
| Or you just have a fucking lot of shit going on, man. | ||
| Look, she's trying... | ||
| She's got a lot going on. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| She's trying to record. | ||
| Right. | ||
| She's trying to stream. | ||
| She's thinking about a second album. | ||
| She's... | ||
| Well, look. | ||
| She hasn't announced anything yet, man. | ||
| Thinking about it. | ||
| Let's not... | ||
|
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Thinking about it. | |
| You know, okay. | ||
| I'm thinking about it. | ||
| I'm hoping for it. | ||
| Look, here's the deal. | ||
| What's the deal? | ||
| This episode is ridiculous. | ||
| I am suddenly wondering about my lease. | ||
|
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You don't have a lease. | |
| I know. | ||
| I have a handshake agreement. | ||
| I need a lease to protect myself from situations like this. | ||
| What if it turns out that she's a Draco? | ||
|
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Right. | |
| It's possible. | ||
| Then there's no way to get out of the lease. | ||
| She has weirdly colored hair. | ||
| Signature of the Draco. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| She has killed a man for chocolate before, too. | ||
| That is true, so she might be a raptor. | ||
| Yeah, entirely possible. | ||
| I will say that... | ||
| Yeah, look, dude, this is just like... | ||
| I know I'm deep at work in the Obama deception stuff, and it's really hard to peel myself away from it at all, but this is so... | ||
| But when you get a space lease... | ||
| This is so, like... | ||
| I'm not going to say that it recharged my batteries, because that would be... | ||
| Deeply dishonest. | ||
|
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No, no, no, no. | |
| But man, I needed something like that. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| Something like fucking weirdos talking about space Germans and leases. | ||
| This is like a break for tea. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| This is like a French lunch that lasts two hours. | ||
| This is nice. | ||
| It's almost that much better that the episode ends with like, I forgot to record. | ||
| Oh, we forgot to record. | ||
| But... | ||
| It's comedy. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| Somebody needed to have... | ||
| She should have added it. | ||
| I know she wouldn't have liked it. | ||
| But she should have added the Price is Right. | ||
| Or just like a slide whistle going... | ||
| Yeah, so congratulations. | ||
| Congratulations, Carrie. | ||
| You have proved everything. | ||
| And, man, it's just... | ||
| I have such a weird relationship with Project Camelot now. | ||
| I always feel like we've plumbed the depths with Eddie Page and Mark Richards. | ||
| I'm surprised that we're still doing it. | ||
| I legitimately thought that Project Camelot was going to be like... | ||
| Oh, we're going to do a couple of fun episodes. | ||
| Maybe if Mark Richards shows up again, we'll do another one of those. | ||
| But I legit thought we were kind of done with it. | ||
| In the same way that we're kind of done with Jim Bakery. | ||
| It's like, we don't need to go back. | ||
| I felt largely emotionally done with it. | ||
| I was like, what are we ever going to learn that's more than this? | ||
| These people. | ||
| No, it turns out, every now and again, you'll just fuck around and there'll be a guy who works at a bus station with a telescope or two guys who disappeared for 20 years into space. | ||
| Illuminati sex slaves and majors in the secret space program who only exist in space because of a lease dispute. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| This is so great. | ||
| Like, this is... | ||
| God, I love it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Of all of the Project Camelots, everybody seems like they have always been trying to outdo themselves. | ||
| Like, with Mark Richards. | ||
| Not this time. | ||
| Not these guys. | ||
| These guys are, like, trying to make it as grounded as possible. | ||
| More Tony than Jason. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But Jason is absolutely... | ||
| I mean, he's the one who came in with... | ||
| He came in with Spacely. | ||
| Yeah, come on. | ||
| So, like, he's still on that tip. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| It's the... | ||
| You know... | ||
| Like, how do the space plebs live? | ||
| You know, we've had Mark Richards. | ||
| He's flying around, solving problems, got an AI. | ||
| He has his own personified spaceship. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But how does just, like, a regular sex slave Joe live, Dan? | ||
| That's what I want to know. | ||
| To be fair, sex slave Tony elevated himself to become basically Han Solo. | ||
|
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That's true. | |
| So, like, he has his own heroic arc mixed in there. | ||
| So he's not a space plebe. | ||
| By any case, none of these guys are. | ||
| He's like a... | ||
| He's like a sex worker in the Old West who eventually owns her own brothel. | ||
| Every single motherfucker who comes on here who's in space is the equivalent of someone who's like, in a past life I was Cleopatra. | ||
| Oh yeah, exactly. | ||
| None of them were like, I was in space. | ||
| It sucked. | ||
| Even this guy was enslaved and there's still a heroic arc to his story. | ||
| No one's just like, man, I had a rough go of it. | ||
| I was just like, shoveling shit. | ||
| Like three hots and a cot. | ||
| I was basically imprisoned on space. | ||
| Which is statistically what you are going to be. | ||
| If their story is true, yes. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But yeah, because they're all making it up and there's ego behind it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But yeah, the difference here with this, which is why it's so refreshing, is that groundedness. | ||
| There is the minutia of modern life and just day-to-day life that is now being mirrored in space. | ||
| Which is great, because it's like what really good improvisers do. | ||
| They don't go for jokes. | ||
| They don't go for big, grand... | ||
| Broad characters. | ||
| They go for the quirks of stuff that you understand and you relate to. | ||
| Humor is in specificity. | ||
| I have a lease. | ||
| I fucking understand what that's all about. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| So, anyway, congratulations, Jason Rice and Tony Rodriguez. | ||
| Also, congratulations to the Space Germans for getting out of that lease. | ||
| That was tough to do. | ||
| I'm proud of you guys. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| That took a lot of doing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Congratulations to the Draco for being so understanding about the lease. | ||
| I do not think they were understanding at all. | ||
| They could have said no. | ||
| They could have said fuck you. | ||
| You get a new person in here. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| You're stuck in that lease. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, come on. | ||
| When I lived in, like when my house burned down years back. | ||
| We had some terrible landlords, and our apartment was completely destroyed. | ||
| So it was condemned by the fire department. | ||
| They're like, you can't live here. | ||
| So they let us out of the lease. | ||
| And that was the case with a number of people who lived in the building. | ||
| How many troops did you have to give them, though? | ||
| Oh, like 35. It was crazy. | ||
| But there were a bunch of other units in the building that weren't that damaged, but had extensive smoke damage or water damage from when the firefighters were in there. | ||
| And they refused to fix it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Jesus, what a bunch of fucking assholes. | ||
| Well, no, they had to do some fixing of stuff, but they refused to let the people out of the lease because the fire department didn't say you had to. | ||
|
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Jesus. | |
| So they kept people stuck in their leases in slightly destroyed apartments. | ||
| It was horrible. | ||
| Like, I remember learning about that and thinking, like, that kind of behavior. | ||
| That's what I would expect out of the Dracos, is what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That sort of thing, and congratulations that you didn't act like that. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| That's very specious of you. | ||
| Look, all I'm saying is maybe the Draco, as a species, are better people than humans. | ||
| Dude, the Draco run Nazis in the hollow earth. | ||
| They are not good. | ||
| They are very bad. | ||
| Very bad. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
|
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How dare you? | |
| They're better landlords. | ||
|
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You know what? | |
| You're on this creeping moral relativism thing that I'm just not into. | ||
|
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I'm on this creeping moral relativism thing. | |
| Maybe space Nazis have a point. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here with that. | ||
| Hey, they're not on my backyard. | ||
| I have to deal with regular Nazis every day, Dan. | ||
| I don't need to be getting involved in an interplanetary dispute. | ||
| See, that's the cowardice. | ||
| That's the cowardice. | ||
| That's the cowardice that allows injustice elsewhere to exist. | ||
| As a threat to justice everywhere. | ||
| Okay, alright. | ||
| Alright, fine, Dan. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| This has been a lot of fun. | ||
| I guess I'm saying let's not intervene in World War II? | ||
| Is that what you're arguing? | ||
| Yeah, you might as well be an appeaser. | ||
| You're an appeaser of space Nazis. | ||
| You're a Draco apologist. | ||
| So, that brings us to the end of this here, Space Venture. | ||
| Thank you for Project Camelot. | ||
| Thanks for at least coming with something, Project Camelot. | ||
| Yeah, you helped us out a great deal. | ||
| It's been... | ||
| My faith was flickering in the world of space weirdos. | ||
| I'm glad to know that there's still gas in that tank. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah. | |
| That's great. | ||
| We have a website. | ||
| We do have a website, Dan. | ||
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
| You can even access it from the moon. | ||
| As long as you smuggle in a computer from Peru. | ||
| Although internet isn't included in that lease. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| What? | ||
| What about heat? | ||
| You have to get Comcast. | ||
| The Space Monopoly! | ||
| Yeah, they do. | ||
| The service is shitty, and it drops out all the time. | ||
| But RCN isn't plugged into the space outlets. | ||
| And Time Warner isn't even allowed to operate in space. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| Because of fucking... | ||
|
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Never mind. | |
| Space regulation. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| That's why we need to deregulate. | ||
| That's why I'm running. | ||
| Also, we got coming up next week. | ||
| We are not going to have an episode on Friday because we will be recording on Friday and I need to get all my ducks in a row, as it were. | ||
| So we won't have time to put out an episode this Friday. | ||
| But next week, all week, every day throughout the week. | ||
| There will be new episodes of our exhaustive and extensive breakdown of Alex Jones' very stupid documentary, The Obama Deception. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah. | |
| So thank you to all our donors who have supported us and put us in the unenviable position of doing that. | ||
| But thank you. | ||
| Thank you all. | ||
| You are getting what you want. | ||
| I like the way you put that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You said to do this. | ||
| Hey, hey. | ||
| We could have done a different documentary, but it was voted on in our Facebook group. | ||
| Go home and tell your mother that you're brilliant. | ||
| Well done. | ||
| Your transitions are fucking tight tonight. | ||
| Not bad. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Very tired. | ||
| You left out Twitter, though. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| We're at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| But we didn't have a poll on there. | ||
| That's why I had to leave the transition smoothly. | ||
| You can follow us on Twitter. | ||
| We would appreciate it. | ||
| We're on iTunes. | ||
| You can subscribe, download, leave a review, all that good stuff. | ||
| We would appreciate it. | ||
| It helps. | ||
| I want to tell you something, Jordan. | ||
| Because I don't believe it exists. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I don't believe that Mars Germans have killed anybody in their career. | ||
| Even if they don't exist, I still kind of think they've killed a guy. | ||
| There's space Nazis, Dan. | ||
| That's a fucking weird line. | ||
| They will find a way. | ||
| That's a fucking weird line to draw because they don't exist. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| This really scary thing that doesn't exist probably has still killed people. | ||
| I didn't even say it was scary. | ||
| Again, not bothering me. | ||
| They're on Mars. | ||
| It's implied, I think. | ||
| It's like saying Freddy Krueger has killed people. | ||
| I bet Freddy Krueger probably has killed people. | ||
| He doesn't exist. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Nor do... | ||
| Goddamn Mars Germans. | ||
| They haven't killed anybody by virtue of the fact that they don't exist. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| I wasn't going to say anything. | ||
| It was preemptive. | ||
| I wasn't going to say anything. | ||
| But there is a guy who probably technically has killed a guy, and that's Alexander Emmerich Jones. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
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I love your work. |