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Nov. 8, 2018 - Knowledge Fight
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#226: November 7, 2018

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss how Alex Jones and Co. are dealing with the results of the 2018 midterm elections. In a shocking turn of events, Ted Nugent accurately assesses that his worldview is unpopular, Alex desperately tries to move product, and Roger Stone swings for the white nationalist fences.

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Main voices
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alex jones
10:54
d
dan friesen
46:22
j
jordan holmes
17:49
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roger stone
01:44
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ted nugent
01:21
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pastor david manning
00:02
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alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed we are.
unidentified
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan, when was the last time you went to the sea?
dan friesen
Went to the sea.
Does Lake Michigan count?
jordan holmes
No, it's a lake.
It's not a sea.
dan friesen
I feel like, no, visiting my parents down in Austin didn't go down to the bay.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's been forever.
jordan holmes
I bet you probably went to a sea in Greece.
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
2007?
jordan holmes
Yeah, you went to the Mediterranean, right?
dan friesen
11 years ago I went to a sea.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, that's a good length of time to go to a sea.
dan friesen
During Matt Riggs' bachelor party when we stayed at a cabin, I went to the lake, and that was great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I like swimming a lot.
I belong in the water.
jordan holmes
Fresh water is not the same.
dan friesen
It's not.
jordan holmes
It's not the same.
dan friesen
Why do you ask?
Have you been yearning for the sea?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Actually, I just thought about it and I was like, I don't even know if I've ever been to a sea.
dan friesen
I mean, I used to live in Hawaii and used to swim in the ocean all the time then.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but that's an ocean.
dan friesen
Right.
That's the sea.
jordan holmes
I'm defining the sea.
dan friesen
Oh, you're saying just a sea.
jordan holmes
Because I've been to the ocean.
I've been to the lake.
And then I couldn't remember if I've ever been to the sea.
dan friesen
Let's get you to the Dead Sea.
jordan holmes
I loved the Dead Sea.
dan friesen
Get you to the Salt Lake.
No, that's a Salt Lake.
Never mind.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Isn't the Salt Lake a sea?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Does that count?
dan friesen
Have you seen the movie The Salton Sea?
jordan holmes
I have not seen the movie The Salton Sea.
dan friesen
Let's start there.
jordan holmes
I saw the movie SLC Punk.
Does that count?
dan friesen
It does.
Yeah.
So, hey, guys, this is a show where I know a lot about swimming in the sea and Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
And I don't know anything about either, apparently.
dan friesen
Guys, sorry about the delay on this episode.
I have been a bit under the weather.
I'd like to thank everybody for their well wishes on Twitter.
That was very nice, so people to wish me health.
I'm feeling a bit better now, and we're on the other side of the midterms, which definitely makes things...
You know, it feels better.
It's like a fever broke, kind of, a little bit.
jordan holmes
I made the point is that it'd be weird to do an episode that would immediately be almost meaningless, you know?
Because, like, the world changed.
dan friesen
It would be slightly...
jordan holmes
Well, it didn't change.
dan friesen
Not really.
It would be slightly meaningless on one hand, because we could predict exactly what...
No matter what happens, if the Republicans win everything, Alex will say, they tried to cheat and we won anyway.
And if Democrats take control of anything, they'll be like, oh, they cheated.
That is going to be the narrative no matter what.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but that was a disaster.
That election was a disaster.
dan friesen
We'll talk about that as we go along.
And I disagree with you to some extent because I think there's flickers of great hope in terms of voting measures that passed throughout the country.
The lifting of the rent control ban here in Chicago is very good.
There are a couple candidates who made it that are very bright signs.
jordan holmes
The homelessness tax in San Francisco.
That's wonderful.
dan friesen
Sure.
So there are positive things if you don't look at the big picture of, you know, the big changes that we may need aren't going to necessarily happen.
jordan holmes
Oh, they're not at all.
dan friesen
But we'll get into this as this goes along.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that it was the right thing to do to not do an episode on Wednesday and do one here on Thursday because especially we knew that Alex Jones' show would be the same.
Before the midterms, but likely quite different after.
And so I'm glad that today we're going over the November 7th, 2018 episode, which is the day after the midterms.
But before we get into that, I'd like to say thank you to someone who has donated to the show before and then bumped it up a little bit.
So we're very excited about this.
And thank you so much, Destiny.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
He's a loser little titty baby.
I don't want to hate black people.
jordan holmes
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Destiny.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Destiny.
dan friesen
If you would like to support the show and become a policy wonk, you can do so by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking that button that says support the show, and we would appreciate it.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
That is what makes the show possible.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
We do not have any advertisers or dark money behind us.
jordan holmes
None at all.
dan friesen
But it takes...
jordan holmes
We're offering.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
If you want in on this, we'll take it.
dan friesen
We're buyable.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm cheap as shit.
dan friesen
So we start today, and I told you right before we started recording something that I was feeling, and that is that I think that this is now a show, the Alex Jones show, at least on November 7th here, the brief window that we have after the midterms.
This is now a show I can kind of get down on.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I think that Alex Jones gets it.
I think he understands what happened in the midterms.
Maybe more than he would like to reveal.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And I think in this first clip...
jordan holmes
Because I don't think anybody actually understands what happened to the midterms.
dan friesen
I think a lot of people have a lot of little pieces, but as far as a full synthesis, maybe not so much.
But in this first clip, I think we see some little glimmers of Alex being aware of his position now.
alex jones
This is the big takeaway.
For me.
Two things.
Allowing illegal cartel-level concerted racketeering censorship in the last year accelerating to the election, and the House not passing voter ID, as Michael Savage said in a tweet, the RINOs blew their last chance.
Because illegal aliens and folks voting the names of dead people took it over the edge, along with the censorship.
And now if we don't do something about the censorship, it's going to embolden even more censorship and deplatforming and harassment that's criminal.
So now if Trump and the Republicans don't act decisively, they are aiding and abetting him.
The president said he's about to act, and I trust the president, but I'm just saying, this is a big deal.
And, you know, the fact that Ted Cruz only won by like three points in Texas is horrifying.
dan friesen
So I think that you see a little bit of fear in Alex's part because the results, especially in Texas, were not what he was expecting.
I think that he probably thought Beto would do better than a normal Democratic candidate.
jordan holmes
Which means losing by seven points.
dan friesen
Right, or ten.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
But to see him make it very competitive and win in places that it did not look like he was going to win, I think that Alex took that to be like, oh, fuck.
jordan holmes
Even Texas is changing on me.
dan friesen
And I think Alex is also keenly aware, although he wouldn't want to talk about this, of the down-ballot candidates that Beto helped push over the line.
Absolutely.
unidentified
Because of the enthusiasm that he brought to the election, the fact that more people were coming out led to more Democratic down-ballot candidates being able to...
dan friesen
I think Alex has this position where he's like, I'm afraid.
But, as we would have predicted, his narrative about it is...
We need voter ID.
jordan holmes
We should have had more voter suppression.
dan friesen
What is it with people?
jordan holmes
What do black people really need to vote for?
You know?
Why do they really need to vote?
We need voter ID.
dan friesen
Here are the takeaways.
I need to be back on Facebook and we need voter ID.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
Yeah, that sounds about right for him.
dan friesen
Depth analysis.
jordan holmes
Well, one thing I do like is he's back to...
Opposition towards the government, not just the Democrats and the globalists.
He's back to...
The Republicans are aiding and abetting the death of, or whatever it is.
dan friesen
He has a little bit of an ability to pivot back to familiar territory, and the position he plays well from.
He was a center being asked to play point guard for a little bit, and now he can be like, alright, I can get back in the paint.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's no Anthony Davis.
dan friesen
No, so he now has...
jordan holmes
Or Janice Antetokounmpo.
dan friesen
Say that six times fast.
jordan holmes
He's Greek!
You should love that!
dan friesen
I say F Caristo to him.
So I think that we are going to see at least a more familiar Alex, and an Alex that isn't so...
I don't know if playing out of his depth is the right way to put it, but there's been a real ugliness to his show lately because he doesn't have anything other than defend Trump against everything.
And now with the idea of a democratic house, he can...
There's a reason why Trump isn't doing the things that he wants him to do.
Whereas before, he had to come up with the stupidest explanations.
And now he can be like, all these Democrats in the House.
Now, at the same time, I think that having that specific thing to complain about could lend itself to more extremism.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Which is a downside.
jordan holmes
Not a doubt in my mind.
dan friesen
But in terms of this show, I think it'll become much more tolerable to listen to.
jordan holmes
Yeah, at the end of the day, at least our show is better.
dan friesen
At least for me listening to this show, I will say this one episode.
jordan holmes
The midterms was a success.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex talks about how he likes to give people fake names.
alex jones
Every candidate establishment got behind the Democrats, lost.
Whether it was a beta man here in Texas or whether it was Gilligan from Gilligan's Moron Island.
jordan holmes
That would be a good show.
alex jones
I'm calling Florida Moron Island.
I'm saying he's from Moron Island.
I know his name's not Gilligan.
I like to butcher their names.
These people have been destroyed.
dan friesen
So, he likes to butcher people's names, and that's all good fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I do love the patheticness of him being like, he's Gilligan from Moron Island.
Now I'm not calling Florida Moron Island.
jordan holmes
I mean, I am.
I believe absolutely it's Moron Island.
dan friesen
It's very weird.
It's very weird, the needing to be like, now Florida, don't leave me.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Come on, old white supremacists.
We still need to stick around.
dan friesen
Yeah, we need you.
So, like I'm saying, and I'm tipping my hand a little bit in terms of, like, I know what's coming a little bit in Alex's mood.
I think in this next clip, you can see that Alex, though he would like it to be, or at least previous to the midterms, he was saying that it was going to be a massive red wave and the Republicans were going to take everything and all that.
I think in this next clip we see a very clear indication that given the results, Alex does recognize what this means for Trump.
And he's a little worried about it.
And then he still wants to talk more about illegal voting.
alex jones
And it's a pretty big win for them there.
Some GOP are trying to spit it that Obama lost 60 plus in the House and a whole bunch of senators.
Well, yes, that's great.
That's a bigger defeat.
This could have been a lot worse.
But the fact that Trump has had his legs cut out from under him.
With all the internet censorship is a big deal.
Joining us is Ted Nugent to give us his aftermath take.
He privately told me that he was putting a good face on it, but he had a bad feeling.
So did I. But again, I think the illegals and folks voting in dead people's names, which is confirmed everywhere, in many places pushed him over the top.
dan friesen
So, he's saying that, like, without this illegal voting, we would have won.
jordan holmes
We would have won if it weren't for all the illegals voting.
dan friesen
And now here's Ted Nugent with some expert analysis.
jordan holmes
The worst sentence I think I've ever heard is, we're gonna have Ted Nugent to give his analysis.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's not good.
That is not good.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Unless he's coming to bring me hot licks.
I'm still not interested in that.
Nope.
Yeah, so that's not great.
But I think that Alex there is saying a lot of these GOP people will try and say that in the past there have been much larger swings.
And that may be true, but that doesn't mean that this still wasn't a loss.
And a little bit of that I think Alex has to recognize.
And a little bit later, Roger Stone is on the show, and I think he has to recognize.
That now that the House is controlled by Democrats, they have the ability to subpoena people.
And so Roger Stone is probably going to get subpoenaed real soon.
And there's all sorts of other investigations that they could gum up the works with.
You would hope that they would use that power judiciously and actually go after real things that should be investigated.
But, I mean, they could basically turn this next two years into a procession of...
jordan holmes
Well, I mean...
dan friesen
Terrible investigations.
jordan holmes
I mean, in all honesty, Trump turned the next two years into a procession of investigations by doing all the crimes.
dan friesen
That is true.
jordan holmes
You know, it's not like he's on the up-and-up and they're doing spurious investigations.
dan friesen
This isn't Benghazi.
jordan holmes
Yeah, even the most ridiculous investigation they could do...
It probably has a crime behind it.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
There's a whole world in front of them.
It's like unlocking a new level in an open world game.
It's like all sorts of places, new mission chains.
jordan holmes
Oh, you can go anywhere.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's very exciting.
But I think Alex recognizes that on one level.
And then bigger picture than that, I think Alex knows strategically that in order for Trump to be the thing that galvanizes people, to be the person that he tries to make Trump appear to be, he needs just a rubber stamp through Congress because his positions are unpopular.
And so without the Republicans controlling both houses and being able to push things through, He's going to be like, I want to deport all, I don't know, Lebanese.
jordan holmes
Deport them all!
dan friesen
Deport all the Lebanese.
jordan holmes
He does not even know what Lebanese means.
He doesn't know Lebanon is a place.
dan friesen
It was just a random pull on my part.
But then the House will be like, nope, not going to happen.
Not going to go anywhere.
He can try and encourage legislation that's really regressive to go through, and it'll just die in the House.
jordan holmes
I wish that were true.
dan friesen
I think it will with real serious issues.
Maybe not...
Look, we're assuming a lot in terms of having some faith in Democrats to not roll over.
jordan holmes
They needed to get at least 45 to 60 seats in order to...
Keep Pelosi from being the Speaker of the House, and that's not going to happen.
She's going to stay Speaker of the House, and the whole time we're going to pass Republican light versions.
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
It's going to be a disaster.
dan friesen
As we're recording this right now, let's hope that's not the case, but that is possible.
Even if it is that, I still think that you wouldn't be able to do as much as you could with a Republican-controlled entirety of Congress.
So, I think that there's that.
And I think that Alex recognizes that as there's diminishing returns in actual things that he's getting done...
The veneer of this, like, super powerful, I-can-fix-everything guy is gonna go away.
And when that veneer goes away, being his propagandist becomes much more difficult.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because you have to then, like, you don't have a hero to worship, you have just an inefficient bureaucrat.
And I don't think that that's going to be something he wants to do.
jordan holmes
See, now, I'm looking forward to all of the executive orders that Trump is going to sign that are patently illegal.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
They are gonna...
There's going to be non-stop executive orders that even the Supreme Court is going to be like, come on, man!
We want to do evil things, and you're dumb!
dan friesen
In my new executive order, I get free food for life.
jordan holmes
I own three McDonald's now.
dan friesen
Sure, okay.
At least offensive thing possible.
So, we got Ted Nugent coming in with his analysis.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
I'll say this.
Most of their interview seems to boil down to, Alex is mad at Texas.
And the Motor City Madman is real pissed off at Michigan.
The two of them are just really mad at their home states.
jordan holmes
At their hometowns.
dan friesen
Because they're swinging left.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so they're like, this is not what I sang about.
And Alex, this is not what I screamed about.
And actually, I think Ted Nugent says something really insightful here.
ted nugent
I'm an eternal, maniacal optimist.
I believe in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence.
I believe in the Ten Commandments of the Golden Rule.
I believe in loving your neighbor and helping your family and neighbor and being in the asset column and making sacrifices and taking risks so that you are a productive member of your community so that you can help.
help others when they need it.
And I know these people.
I know they're everywhere.
But guess what?
We're outnumbered.
Sure.
unidentified
The people who believe that we should turn Michigan into a San Francisco feces and needle zone outnumber conscientious people.
ted nugent
Conscientious, positive, constitutional, free Michiganiacs.
I'm helpless.
dan friesen
So, I mean, his characterization of the two sides is wrong, but I think he's starting to recognize that, uh-oh, the thing that I like is not the most popular thing.
jordan holmes
Ooh, not at all.
dan friesen
And I think that's a step in the right direction.
I mean, granted, he goes on to say that, like, in response to that, I'm going to fight even harder.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which is within his right to do.
jordan holmes
He believes in the Constitution and the Ten Commandments, which is why he said we should kill Hillary.
You know, in accordance with the Constitution and the Ten Commandments.
Two things that both...
I mean, strongly advocate murdering political opponents.
dan friesen
Right, right, absolutely.
And God, I know one thing about him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He was super into, like, stage displays of, like, high-power weaponry where you're threatening elected figures.
jordan holmes
See, now, actually, he was.
dan friesen
In the Old Testament.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like, super.
Remember Elisha setting that piece of wood on fire and then they killed all of the priests who didn't?
dan friesen
And then everybody did some fucking sweet solos.
unidentified
And they did some cat scratch.
alex jones
God scratch fever.
jordan holmes
Burning some wood with some God.
dan friesen
God's got the devil in a stranglehold.
So, in this next clip, because he's talking to Ted Nugent and they both love guns, Alex accidentally says that you should shoot liberals.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
alex jones
We need more people to do what you're doing, what I've done, what Trump is doing is get really aggressive and not let these people push us around and understand that they're like cancer and have to be dealt with and do outreach, try to take leftists out and deprogram them, try to take them shooting, try to take them camping.
jordan holmes
Try to take them shooting!
Shoot him!
Try to take him, shoot him!
dan friesen
I know he's trying to say shooting, but he does slip up and say take him, shoot him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yep, that's...
Why do you guys still do it?
Right-wing conservatives have murdered a lot of people recently due to shit you say, and you're still saying it.
dan friesen
It's interesting that you see that Freudian slip in his brain, because I know, and if we were a show like his, we would be like, he literally said that you should shoot liberals.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you would keep that clip, and you would play it, and you would do, oh, yeah, do you remember when Alex Jones said we should shoot them?
dan friesen
I would cut out the part where he says outreach, so it just says they're a cancer, they need to be dealt with, take them out, shoot them.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
I would do something like that, but we're fucking adults and we understand he fucking had a slip of the tongue because that's kind of what he's thinking.
jordan holmes
That's kind of what he was saying!
dan friesen
Yeah, that's kind of what he believes, but the idea of having an outreach thing where you teach people that guns aren't that scary, the outdoors is nice, sure.
I don't know if that's going to get people to be weirdo patriots, but sure.
jordan holmes
I also think that's a terrible idea considering where the country is going to give what is ostensibly the enemy.
You believe you should kill training in weapons.
dan friesen
Well, and, like, the times that I've heard Alex talk about going out with people who don't like guns and going shooting, it sounds like a dangerous affair.
You keep talking about, like, those explosives that you shoot, and, like, one of them exploded a cinder block and it hit him in the head.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
He shoots explosives?
dan friesen
We talked about this a long time ago.
jordan holmes
I know, but I mean...
dan friesen
It was with the cast of Silicon Valley.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right!
That's right!
That's right.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Now I remember.
dan friesen
Where he got hit in the head with a cinder block.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He's like, there was a good time.
Mike Judge was laughing.
jordan holmes
We need him to go out shooting with more casts.
Perhaps we'll get hit with a larger piece of a cinder block.
dan friesen
So, in the country right now, we're dealing with some pretty serious radicalization of the right, obviously.
We see it all around us.
We see it manifest through murders, bomb scares, all sorts of fun news cycles.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, good days.
dan friesen
And in this next clip, Alex has an interesting take on that phenomenon.
alex jones
And if you want to have a political and economic fight, you're going to get one.
This is a war.
And they're organized to take us over.
And you get it.
I get it.
They used to call us extreme.
They don't anymore because they say the Republicans are radicalizing.
It's because the left is radical.
We were never radical.
Freedom is radical compared to tyranny.
But they're coming after us.
We don't have a choice.
dan friesen
They made me do it.
It's the same stupid argument as, like, I'm only racist because you kept calling me racist.
What did you expect to happen?
I'm only radical because you're radical and you made me do it.
jordan holmes
It had to happen.
dan friesen
It had to happen.
jordan holmes
It definitely wasn't there before.
dan friesen
It wasn't a phenomenon that's been going on in this country in waves for the last...
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Forever?
jordan holmes
You know what?
It was our fault for radicalizing the Oath Keepers.
If we had never elected a black president, they would never have felt the need to go out and murder people, Dan.
dan friesen
I honestly think in private company, Alex might agree with that.
jordan holmes
Oh, I think so.
I think so, too.
dan friesen
I think he might, as long as there wasn't a bugged room, might say that.
So now, I believe that in terms of conservatism...
One of their best arguments that they have is the belief in self-determination.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I believe that when you say...
You believe that everybody has the right to choose how to live their life.
I think that you're on a good rock to stand on.
jordan holmes
The part where you then legislate those rights to choose...
That's where your bullshit kind of shines through.
dan friesen
Sure.
I agree with you there, but I'm just talking philosophically.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that that is a good starting block, and it's pretty tough to undermine the idea of just saying, I believe that people have the right to live their life how they see fit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I think that's true.
Now, interestingly, Ted Nugent starts talking about his belief in self-determination, and it weaves very quickly into determining how other people live.
alex jones
These people are coming to conquer you.
You better start getting in their damn faces.
ted nugent
Yeah, bottom line is, if you believe enough in the American dream and you choose your own path in life and you do the best that you can do, if you believe in that, you can't just do it.
unto yourself.
You have to demand that from everyone around you.
I mean, you see slovenly behavior, when you see liberal denial and and fake news, and political correct scourge, when you see it, you can't just walk away and shrug your shoulders and go, oh well, nothing I can do.
Well, there is something you can do.
We need to be firm.
dan friesen
So, that That smacks of, like...
jordan holmes
Everybody should have the right to choose, but when you see people choosing wrong, you gotta choose for them, Dan!
Duh!
That makes perfect sense!
Everyone should have the right to determine their actions as long as they're determining them the way that I want them to!
That makes perfect sense!
dan friesen
Yep, as long as you agree with me, you have self-determination.
jordan holmes
That's a conservative principle.
That's a bedrock of their lives.
dan friesen
I think so, and I think that that's why you had that...
Blowback to me saying, like, that's a reasonable belief.
Of course, because in practice, it's always that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's always that.
So anyway, Ted Nugent sucks, and we don't need to listen to more of him.
But Alex gets back to his takeaway from the midterms, and here's where he's at.
alex jones
But I know for a fact that going back to the turn of the last century, 118 years, that no one has ever had losses this low.
So that is a big win, but it still shows us how powerful the enemy is.
dan friesen
So, I think that that is actually probably a sensible approach to this.
I mean, it's a little bit still shining a shit a little bit, but the idea of saying that, like, yeah, we lost, but it wasn't that bad, that's probably a bright side.
You know, that's like, this is an optimistic Alex that's come into studio today.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I'm okay with that.
jordan holmes
I just, see, that's the thing.
I don't understand where these guys are coming from.
I don't understand.
They won.
Ultimately, that's what they did.
White supremacy was really what was on the ballot.
And you saw such a high voter turnout from both spectrums.
And white supremacy won.
White supremacy won.
And that gives them the power to...
dan friesen
I don't think that that's accurate.
I don't think it is.
I think that there were areas where certainly you could make that case.
But I don't think as a whole...
That case is accurate.
I think that what we would have loved to see is a condemnation of so many things.
And in a perfect world, there would have been no Republicans winning anything.
jordan holmes
You would have thought.
dan friesen
Right, but that's an unrealistic expectation to have.
And I think that when you sit down and you look at the incremental progress that you do see, so many women getting elected to offices, first gay governor, those sorts of things are important.
Bits of progress.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So to say that it was a big win for the right or white supremacy, I don't think that that's accurate, but it wasn't as much of a win for non-white supremacy as we would have wanted it to be.
jordan holmes
As it needed to be.
dan friesen
Right, so I think that you and me are kind of in the same place as Alex, where he's like...
The loss could have been way worse, and we are saying that the win should have been much bigger.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we're both sort of in that in-between stay.
No one's getting exactly what they want, but there's little things that both sides can say are like, well, there's that.
There's that.
And we still have to see how everything plays out.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because there's a lot of, as we're recording this here on Wednesday, there's still a lot of races that haven't been decided yet.
There's still things blah.
unidentified
Yeah.
roger stone
Blah.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Sure.
I mean, I don't...
I'm a pessimistic guy, as maybe somebody could have guessed.
But I don't see how this doesn't further expand the ability to have a minority rule.
And the minority is white supremacists.
But they have cheated.
They have cheated.
They have twisted.
They've gerrymandered.
They've done all of this stuff to make sure that white supremacy remains in power as opposed to, you know, and then we have an ineffective Democratic Party that's going to be like, hey, hey, white supremacy is bad.
We're going to do some white nationalism, but not supremacy.
That's terrible.
dan friesen
But there were measures that passed about voter re-enfranchisement.
There were measures that passed in terms of getting rid of redistricting that really hurt voter turnout and enacted voter suppression.
So there is progress on that front, even if it's not...
Like, you want to just shake everything like an Etch-A-Sketch and we can't.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
You want to do that, but that would require exactly what we're against.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I get what you're saying, and I think it's fine to be pessimistic, but I also think...
I don't know what I think.
jordan holmes
I, you know, there's hope.
dan friesen
It is what it is.
jordan holmes
There's hope.
dan friesen
It is what it is.
jordan holmes
I just think there's not enough time for the incremental change.
I think we're fucked.
dan friesen
Maybe, but...
Maybe not.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
It's possible.
I wish I could share in your, like, we can see how it plays out.
See how it plays out.
dan friesen
I'm not super optimistic, but I am, like, we'll see.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Tentative.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
Hmm.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
We'll see.
jordan holmes
Which is what Dave Chappelle said on SNL whenever Trump got elected.
dan friesen
You compare me to Dave Chappelle?
jordan holmes
I think you're great.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
I think you're one of the greatest comedians alive.
dan friesen
I think that Alex Jones is one of the greatest comedians ever.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Do we have a bit?
Not really.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
But he starts, in his next clip, he starts getting into some of his fears about the globalists.
Yeah.
And it gets into trans-dimensional aliens, which I haven't heard in a while, which is kind of nice.
jordan holmes
I like that.
dan friesen
Especially the day after midterms come along, he's getting into a weird headspace.
So here's what he has to say about Silicon Valley.
alex jones
And people keep asking, how do I know this whole plant?
Because I know the Fabian Socialist plant.
dan friesen
Ah, they want you to use emojis.
alex jones
They've only promoted theoreticians and writers and thinkers that were taking them along the line of the world they wanted, a post-human world, because their God is going to give them life extension and give them power, but at a certain point, they have to give their body up and be uploaded into this larger consciousness that will then move on to the next planet.
Right.
unidentified
You're probably saying I read that in childhood's end.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
Former head of the British Illuminati Republic.
wrote childhoods in he also wrote 2001 space odyssey in that entire luciferian trilogy okay you might want to figure out what they're planning for you and your family because they believe an off-world entity known as lucifer okay He's off-world?
It's going to give them the blueprints on how to take over.
They've just got to kill themselves and their families once they get to the point and basically put on the black Nike tennis shoes, the black outfits, drink the vodka and barbecues.
jordan holmes
That's not even what the Heaven's Gate cult did!
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
Now you know why they have sub-cults that learn about what Silicon Valley's really into, take it too far, actually believe that it's coming in this generation, and then decide they want to onboard the spacecraft immediately.
jordan holmes
Right.
alex jones
But, of course, the whole thing is a giant satanic con game.
unidentified
Of course.
alex jones
If you want to know what they're doing at Silicon Valley, they're taking LSD and mushrooms almost every day, microdusing.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And believe they're in communication with demon creatures that are giving them control of the future.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
Of course, I told you this 20-something years ago.
dan friesen
No, you fucking didn't.
jordan holmes
If our head of the Illuminati, who's laid out this whole plan, wrote 2001 A Space Odyssey, shouldn't our god be a space baby and not Lucifer?
dan friesen
Maybe.
I don't know.
I don't know what to do with that.
I don't care.
I don't care about that stuff.
I don't care at all.
jordan holmes
You don't care about space babies?
dan friesen
Not really.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I just think this is so stupid.
The idea that he's saying that Heaven's Gate was a sub-cult that figured out what the Silicon Valley people believe and then took it too far.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Anybody who knows anything about Heaven's Gate knows that that is not a fair assessment of what they were up to.
jordan holmes
And they did not.
I didn't wear black at all.
dan friesen
I believe it was white shoes.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex is stupid.
But it's fun for him to get back to some of that stuff.
It's fun for him to be like, I've been saying this for 20 years.
No, you fucking haven't.
In this next clip, Alex uses a term that I think is probably not cool to say, I think.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then he discusses what kind of accents he likes to hear out of people.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I mean, just the condescension.
I saw another one where they...
Put a French name on it.
They put a Kunas name on it.
I forget which one it was.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
He's talking about, like, you saw a meme of Beto is going to run for Louisiana.
Hold on.
alex jones
So they're going to put a Kunas name on it?
unidentified
What?
alex jones
It's like when Hillary Clinton went to Kentucky, and then she talked like, get to be here with you.
unidentified
I'm really glad to be in Kentucky.
alex jones
I'm going to have me some...
unidentified
Possum pot pies, some other good taste, please.
alex jones
I think that's offensive, too.
She was out in California.
She was like, hello, Latinos.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
alex jones
How are you?
jordan holmes
What's that supposed to be?
alex jones
The only person I saw that's that bad, being condescending like that, is I would be insulted if somebody from...
If Donald Trump came to my house, or came to see me, or I was talking to Donald Trump on the phone, and because I'm from Texas, he went, oh, this is Yosemite, Sam, Alex.
How are you doing there, boy?
I'd say, what type of weirdo are you?
What type of weirdo are you?
There's horrible New York accents, but I like Trump's New York accent.
I like it.
It's the real Donald Trump.
dan friesen
Okay.
All right, man.
Calm down.
I'm not sure if it's okay to use that term he used at the beginning.
jordan holmes
Did he say coon ass?
dan friesen
Twice.
jordan holmes
He said they're going to give them a coon ass name.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That is racist as shit!
I'm on the fence about it exactly because the etymology of the term, it's a term for a person of Cajun ethnicity.
There are people who have looked at the etymology of it, and it's difficult to tell if it's an offensive term or not.
It seems like it is.
I know that in the...
I'm reading from Wikipedia here.
In the early 1980s, a Cajun worker sued his former employee over repeated use of the word coonass in the workplace.
The lawsuit led directly to the federal government's recognition of the Cajuns as a national ethnic group, as protected by the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
So, it does appear that it's probably a term that could be used offensively.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait.
Is coonass different from coon?
dan friesen
It appears that it is, yes.
There's debate.
jordan holmes
That's strange.
That's strange.
I don't understand that at all.
dan friesen
There's debate, because some people believe that it does come from the slur for African Americans, which is possible, but then one other etymology says that it comes from the French word canoe, which is a vulgar term for the vulva.
Which I'm not sure if that's accurate.
jordan holmes
Okay!
dan friesen
There's also a French word, connasse, which they think it could come from, which loosely translates to dirty prostitute.
jordan holmes
Alright, so no matter what, it comes from an offensive term.
dan friesen
But it appears, from everything I can tell, that it's a term that has been reclaimed a little bit by folks of Cajun descent.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But still, I don't like Alex using it.
jordan holmes
So it's one word.
It's not coon.
Space.
dan friesen
Yes.
unidentified
Ass.
dan friesen
One word.
jordan holmes
See, because I hear that as really offensive.
dan friesen
Two words.
jordan holmes
I hear that as crazy offensive.
dan friesen
Two words.
Unacceptable.
jordan holmes
That is insanely offensive!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's the worst adjective I can think of!
dan friesen
I wanted to come here and tell you, like, I've looked into this, and I can tell you without a doubt that Alex is flippantly using a horrible slur.
But I don't think it's as cut and dry as that.
My assessment on it is, shouldn't be using that word.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
But it appears that he might be able to wiggle out of this as being, that's not a racist term.
I have family who are Cajun.
unidentified
Okay, I don't know.
jordan holmes
See, I legitimately wanted to, like...
I was almost like, should I not even say what he said because it's so offensive?
dan friesen
It feels that way.
Some of that might be because it's Alex saying it.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Some of it might be packaged with that.
jordan holmes
Right.
There is a slight difference between saying, oh, that man is a Jew and that man's a Jew.
His tone of voice is the hard J. And the person who's saying it.
dan friesen
You have to unpack that.
I'm going to skip this next clip because it's just Alex again repeating that everything was rigged against the right and they still managed to win but not really win.
They barely lost, which is a win, because everything was stacked up against them, illegal voting all over the place.
alex jones
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And so we get to this Alex going out to break with a pronouncement that...
It's not surprising to hear him say this, but I'm shocked he said it out loud.
alex jones
If you don't promote the videos, if you don't promote the articles, nobody will.
By the way, you've been doing it, so despite the censorship...
We're still growing in the enemy's face.
There are only other options to set me up or kill me, but hey, let's make them do it.
I want to go in, through, and beyond.
jordan holmes
I want to go in, through, and beyond?
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
That sounds a little sexy.
dan friesen
A little bit, yeah.
I know that he is like...
Probably feeling overdue for his own martyrdom.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this idea of expressing it on air, I want to make them kill me!
Come on, guys!
Wouldn't that be great?
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is disappointing to just, like, lose your audience as opposed to getting murdered, you know?
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Like, that's the outcome you want instead of fading into obscurity.
dan friesen
All my heroes died in mysterious circumstances that I've been able to lie about and say they were murdered.
Why can't I do that, too?
jordan holmes
What he needs to do is fake his own death and then come back like ten years later and do a whole show on it, but pretend he's a ghost.
dan friesen
Or pretend he's Bill Hicks.
jordan holmes
That would be a great show.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I would listen to that.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, we find out a politician not from America that Alex Jones is apparently in favor of.
Not surprising at all.
alex jones
We saw this with Faith Goldie.
Wouldn't take her ads on TV.
Wouldn't take them on radio.
Wouldn't take them in print because she was number three in the polls in Toronto.
Most analysts said she would have won.
She had the money.
She's young, smart, good-looking, if they would have let her advertise.
dan friesen
Okay.
Well, here's the problem.
Faith Goldie, as you may know, she used to work for Rebel Media, which was the former employer of Tommy Robinson, Gavin McGinnis, and Lauren Southern.
jordan holmes
Great organization.
dan friesen
Great roster.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
She was fired from Rebel Media after she appeared on a podcast hosted by the Daily Stormer to discuss the Charlottesville rally, which they said was a little bit too much.
A little too far.
jordan holmes
If Rebel Media is like, dude, we agree, but you can't be out there.
dan friesen
You're going a little bit too far.
And then in December 2017, she appeared on the podcast Millennial Woes and recited the 14 words that are the slogan of white supremacy and responded to those words saying, quote, I don't see that as controversial.
I want to survive.
So, not too surprising that Alex is real into Faith Goldie.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
She's a bright, smart, beautiful woman.
jordan holmes
Also, who thinks Steve King is bad?
alex jones
Come on!
Does anybody?
dan friesen
I'm not sure I've actually ever heard Alex directly talk about him, which is interesting.
jordan holmes
Well, he's from here.
dan friesen
Well, that could be.
jordan holmes
You can talk about Canadian white supremacists all day.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, Alex, after this, he's had Ted Nugent in.
Great, big git.
jordan holmes
Yes, he's had Ted Nugent in to give optimism to the world.
dan friesen
Plenty of it.
jordan holmes
Ted Nugent.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, we are blessed with an appearance from someone who is barely ever on InfoWars.
So a rare guest.
In the form of Roger Stone.
alex jones
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
I was actually hoping it would be a rare guest.
dan friesen
Nah, it's someone who's there every fucking day.
jordan holmes
Like, we got Charlie Sheen to give us his analysis on the midterms.
dan friesen
He's in Austin, too.
Like, he's in studio, which is sort of interesting that he was there for the midterms.
Because if it went real bad, he might want to go a little south.
Might be wanting to meet up with the caravan.
unidentified
I do not want him meeting up with the caravan, ever.
dan friesen
So he has a new idea for InfoWars that is kind of interesting because there's one element of it that makes it seem like this is sort of organizing and political action.
We're going to talk about that all in a moment, but first, let's get to this, Roger.
alex jones
You had the idea for this.
We delivered 100,000 signatures a year and a half ago to the president, and it had a massive, massive effect, and it got him moving on the censorship.
But you have the idea of this is a model others have used.
It's a handwritten letter.
They sign their name.
They can print off a copy for free.
They mail that or they don't email it for them.
So either it's two letters go out every time we do it or one.
We're going to send one out regardless.
With the postage paid in an individual letter, one million of these to flood the White House.
I think we're going to send about $100,000 to a Trump Tower in New York.
And it is almost a form of harassment, but we love the president.
We're doing him a favor.
Okay.
I think we're going to hit like 100,000.
jordan holmes
By harassing him.
alex jones
We go more than a million.
Maybe his New Jersey estate.
Maybe we'll hit Mar-a-Lago with 100,000.
WriteTrump.com.
I'm going to hammer the White House.
dan friesen
So the idea behind this is that they're trying to convince him to take internet censorship seriously.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But you know the bottom line of this is Alex is going to sell it as...
A million people demand you help me get back on Facebook.
jordan holmes
Yeah, essentially.
dan friesen
That's what's behind this.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
100%.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, look at all this groundswell of people who won't put up with me not being on social media anymore.
jordan holmes
Also, the whole point of the handwritten letter is to make it seem individuals made it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But we're going to...
Make a bunch of copies of a handwritten letter?
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
So it looks like instead of...
dan friesen
And if you send it yourself, we're also sending it, so that's two for one.
jordan holmes
But that doesn't make any sense!
Even if you do handwrite it, and it is personal, you're still sending the same letter to him!
dan friesen
You bet.
jordan holmes
There's no way you can't see through that!
Not least of which, because he said it!
He announced that we're doing it!
We're not writing a form letter and typing it out.
That would be impersonal.
We're copying a handwritten letter and having people sign it.
That makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
It's crazy self-serving, and it's so easy to see through of, like, we need to get back on social media or we are fucked.
Roger, what do you got?
alex jones
I don't know.
dan friesen
Website, writetrump.com?
Let's do it.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
Let's do it.
jordan holmes
Solved.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Also, he doesn't have the power to do that.
Alex knows that, right?
dan friesen
I don't know if he knows that.
jordan holmes
The president literally cannot say to a private corporation, you have to put this guy on your...
They've literally fought for years to make sure the president can't do that.
dan friesen
Alex would like...
He'd like to present it as, like, I have ironclad proof that they're specifically targeting and victimizing people for their political beliefs.
So the president could say that this is infringing on people's free speech in terms of political opinion and force them to not discriminate against people for that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
With the interpretation of the political ideology being a protected class, which is...
But I think that that's what Alex wants, or he wants to use rendition against Jack from Twitter, and have him tortured at a dark site, and then get Alex back on Twitter.
One of the two.
jordan holmes
That would be interesting if one day we were just like, wait, did Zuckerberg go to Guantanamo?
dan friesen
Is that real?
That would be an extraordinary rendition.
jordan holmes
That would be a big day.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So that's a little bit...
I hear desperation there, and it sounds good to my ears.
But then I heard this next clip, and I'm like, this is comical levels of desperation.
alex jones
And don't forget, we have the biggest targeted sale.
Not the biggest general sale, but on six items, it is the biggest sale ever.
67% off of Colloidal Silver, Silver Bullet.
dan friesen
Two more percent, man.
alex jones
57% off of Super Melos and Perfumal Vitality.
It's incredible, but I want to move it all.
I'll tell you why.
They're trying to take our payment processes to shut us down.
I have to sell out all of our product now before they're successful.
I pray they're not.
We've got to move it all out to fund to the next jump phase and new funding.
dan friesen
That's Juness.
I believe.
From everything I can tell.
Because he's saying this is a targeted sale.
There's these six things that I need to fucking sell out of.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because I have got a big warehouse.
dan friesen
Hold on.
It's because, according to him, they're going to take my payment processor and I won't be able to sell anything, so I've got to get rid of all this.
That argument doesn't work because all the other products that you're not trying to sell out of.
I believe, and I have slight reason to believe this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He needs to get rid of the things that have overlap with products that sell from Jeunesse.
He needs to get rid of those because he can't promote both of them.
So while there is a knockout that Alex sells, there's a sleep thing that Jeunesse sells.
He can't have both of those on the shelves.
Jeunesse probably has a non-compete kind of thing going.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course they do.
dan friesen
And so they're like, no, you can't market both of those things.
jordan holmes
No, you can't private label on your own.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
So he needs to have a targeted sale where he has a fire sale to get rid of everything that would have a overlap with his market multilevel marketing deal that he's trying to push now.
jordan holmes
That is a great, great point.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a great analysis.
That's a Ted Nugent-level analysis right there.
dan friesen
Cat scratch fever!
Actually, Janette sells something to deal with cat scratch fever.
jordan holmes
Oh, do they?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
A balm.
jordan holmes
A balm?
dan friesen
Because there's no other way for that reasoning to make sense, because he doesn't just sell six products.
If it was a fire sale on everything because we need to get rid of everything before they say we can't sell anything anymore, then I'd believe that.
But because the argument doesn't work with all of it, I think that it's a bullshit argument.
And it's just because those six things you know you can't sell next month or whatever.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
That's great.
Yeah.
dan friesen
You've got to read between the lines with this slippery asshole.
jordan holmes
Fuck him.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Roger and Alex are sitting down.
They're having a bit of a bowl session about their favorite topic.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
What accents they enjoy.
dan friesen
Nope.
About how they're victims.
roger stone
Alex is trying to destroy me financially.
They're trying to destroy my family.
And I'm not going to go...
alex jones
By the way, we're not just saying that.
You can see it.
They filed another fake Sandy Hook sit on me.
unidentified
Ooh.
alex jones
This week.
And said, stop saying it didn't happen.
And for years I've said it was happening.
My listeners questioned it, and I did too as an American right.
But again, it's because we're winning.
I don't want to get into it on air, make a big deal about it.
We had three lawsuits thrown out in the last two weeks.
So that makes them mad.
They're like, oh my God, America keeps coming back.
And I'm not talking about the families themselves.
I'm talking about the politicos, the Democrats.
But Roger, let's get down to brass tacks.
roger stone
They want to shut me up.
They want to shut you up.
That's brass tacks.
They want to shut Infowars off the face of the earth because we're a beacon for the truth.
dan friesen
Beacons of truth.
jordan holmes
No, we want to put you in jail, Roger.
You can still talk.
You just got to do it from...
Hey, listen.
Martin Luther King Jr. wrote from a jail.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
If you want to be able to talk...
Yeah, if you want to be able to talk, that's fine.
We're going to put you in a federal penitentiary.
dan friesen
I have a feeling that the Stone Zone might be an 8 foot by 5 foot area.
In the near future.
jordan holmes
We're remoting in from Roger Stone in his toilet-laden bunk bed.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I don't...
Obviously, I don't know all of the information, so I don't...
I have a sense that Roger has committed some crimes.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's dead.
dan friesen
But I don't have enough information, so it's weird for me to say he should be in prison.
It feels like he should.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's going to be.
dan friesen
But the people who have all of the information, the behind-the-scenes stuff, they know.
And if that is the case, then yeah, absolutely he should be.
But he should also still be able to do his podcast out of prison.
unidentified
I think that would be hilarious.
jordan holmes
I think that would be great.
dan friesen
Talk about prison fashion.
What his new roommate thinks of his Nixon tattoo.
jordan holmes
But see, the thing is, because Mueller has carte blanche to investigate whatever, you know, anything that kind of just comes up, he can just go like, oh, I'm referring this to the FBI and all that stuff.
Even if Stone didn't commit these particular crimes...
We all know Stone, at some point or another, has committed at least one jailable offense.
dan friesen
And the very idea that so many people who have such deep involvement with Roger have been...
Talking to the special counsel.
unidentified
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
And they appear to be cooperating.
unidentified
Yeah, it's not good for him.
dan friesen
People like Jerome Corsi.
People like Manafort.
It doesn't look good for him.
Because before, when they were just saying they were going to arrest Paul Manafort, he could play the game of Manafort's a rock.
But now that he's cooperating...
The game is not the same.
jordan holmes
Also, if you expected Jerome Corsi to go to bat for you, that is the easiest dude to flip there's ever been.
He'd be like...
When Mueller called him, he was like, dude, I'll tell you everything.
I don't even give a shit.
dan friesen
Without anything, like...
Jerome Corsi completely gave up on that narrative he was trying to pitch like six months ago about how he might die because of Seth Rich information that he found.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
He didn't even pay that off.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So, yeah, absolutely.
Get him in a fucking courtroom.
He's going to be flop sweat coming down his waterlogged face.
So, I don't know, man.
I think that, yeah, no one wants to silence anybody.
I think that private companies have absolutely the right to do whatever they want to do.
In terms of kicking Alex off social media stuff because of a very clear breach of their rules that he's done, if they want to do that, then they can do that.
If, like, the web hosting that he uses, if they don't want to host his stuff anymore, that's their right to be like, no, this is beyond what we deem acceptable.
If there was, like, the government trying to silence him, then he'd have a good case, but he doesn't.
He just has, like, uh-oh, the chickens are coming home to roost.
I have made millions of dollars off doing this very distasteful work, and now...
So, but they tell the truth.
That's important.
Because this next clip...
jordan holmes
Are they beacons of truth?
dan friesen
Yes.
And that's important, because this next clip is not the truth.
roger stone
George Soros goes on CBS.
Not Infowars.
CBS says, sure, I was a Nazi collaborator.
Yeah, it was the greatest time of my life.
If I hadn't done it, somebody else would.
You can see the clip, but when Alex Jones reports it and shows the clip, they accuse Jones of defaming Soros.
They claim it's anti-Semitic.
A former Nazi collaborator.
Facts are facts.
We're basing our research on a terrific interview on CBS.
jordan holmes
Wait, it was a terrific interview?
dan friesen
Terrific interview.
jordan holmes
Well, does he mean entertaining?
Was it a really entertaining interview?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I've watched it.
I'm not sure it was the best interview ever.
Because I think that there's some...
Like, vagueness.
There's a couple of indications where I don't think that Soros really understands the questions that are being asked to him.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Like, I don't think that it's like a language barrier or anything like that, but I think there's nuances to what the interviewer is asking him, that he's responding slightly, like, to a slightly different question.
So I don't think it's a terrific interview.
But that's not, I mean, it's, I don't know if I've ever heard Roger Stone give the Alex Jones Soros narrative, and that to me seems like he's scared.
jordan holmes
That's a little desperate.
Also, Dan, can you think of any reason that Soros wouldn't go on InfoWars?
dan friesen
I did read recently that Soros' reps have asked Fox News.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And they said no, which is interesting.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course not.
dan friesen
I don't know if you would ever want to go on InfoWars, but like...
I think he could handle it.
I think they would just yell Nazi at him or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, pretty much.
dan friesen
It would be an embarrassing display.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Because Alex would do one of his little set pieces.
Like, on Halloween, he dressed up like a frog and talked about how great it is that he's gay.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
He did his gay frog character.
jordan holmes
He did that on Halloween, huh?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that he would do something like that with Soros.
He'd do something intentionally to embarrass him.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He'd dress up as Pepe the Frog.
dan friesen
And he would think it was satire or something like that.
So it's best.
George, if you're listening, don't do it.
jordan holmes
Don't do it.
dan friesen
Don't do it.
Go on Fox News if you want.
I still think that would be bad.
jordan holmes
No, that's not a great idea.
dan friesen
It is funny to hear, like, all these, like, why won't they debate me?
Why won't they come talk?
But they've been asking to for a while.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's the same thing with, hey, who cares?
unidentified
All these stupid people on the right.
jordan holmes
It's really almost as if they don't want his voice on their programming because that's not...
What they do, they don't have, like, multiple opinions.
It's almost like they are some sort of outlet in order to propagandize for the president.
And there's no way to prove that.
It would be crazy.
What if one of their opinion commentators was actively campaigning for somebody?
dan friesen
That doesn't prove anything.
What if two of them are?
You forget Judge Jeanine was there.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
I forgot that Judge Jeanine was also there.
dan friesen
Yeah, Sean Hannity and fucking Jeanine Pirro showing up at a Trump rally giving stump speeches.
That's ludicrous.
jordan holmes
It is awful.
I think that the media is biased.
I think they're just trying to get one person.
You know, they're just stepping for the devil.
dan friesen
I love Sean Hannity's take on that, too.
It's like, I didn't know he was going to have me.
jordan holmes
Oh, that was the worst staging I have ever seen.
dan friesen
I knew he was going to give a speech before the rally.
People were announcing it.
jordan holmes
Nonsense.
Oh, we were just going to do our show, and then he, oh my god, he picked me out of the crowd.
Like Bruce Springteen.
Bruce Springteen.
Springteen.
dan friesen
That was when he was younger.
jordan holmes
That was when he was younger, yeah.
dan friesen
So Roger's pitching the Soros narrative, and that's not good, because we know that's full of shit.
We talked about it a bunch of times.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
But it's interesting, because the other day, an article came out in the National Review that talks about how, like, you don't need these Soros.
His real life is just as bad.
His real life is bad enough.
jordan holmes
Alright, I like that.
dan friesen
So Alex has read this and he wants to report on some of it.
Did he read the article this time?
He's going to read a blurb in it.
And then I will give you some context on it on the other side.
alex jones
We're going to go to break.
This is a bombshell that one of our affiliate relations guys, Scott, brought up.
And I remember reading this years ago.
It's why 60 Minutes brought it up.
Soros' adopted father...
It's a National Review article, which is basically the right-wing CIA.
The truth about George Soros is damning enough.
And then it's got a quote about the following week, the kind-hearted Nazi local militia, in an effort to cheer the unhappy lad up, took him off with him.
dan friesen
Already here, he is lying.
The quote does not say the kind-hearted local Nazi militia.
jordan holmes
Were they talking about the Oath Keepers?
dan friesen
No, the quote is Blaufa.
Blaufus, which is the name that Tivedar Soros, George Soros' dad, this is from his memoirs, his dad's memoirs, Blaufus is the name that he gives to the adopted Christian godparent that he left George with as a young boy.
So Alex is already turning this one individual into a kind-hearted Nazi militia.
So he's already twisting this here.
So let me jump back here real quick.
alex jones
Quote, about the following week, the kind-hearted Nazi local militia, in an effort to cheer the unhappy lad up, took him off with him to the provinces.
At the time, he was working in the trans-debumi, I can't pronounce it, west of Budapest, on the modern estate of a Jewish aristocrat, Baron Morick Kornfeld.
There, they were wine and dined, but...
What was left of the staff?
George also met several other ministry officials who immediately took a liking to the young man, the alleged godson of Mr. Boflos.
He even helped with the inventory.
Surrounded by good company, he quickly regained his spirits.
On Saturday, he returned to Budapest.
That's George Soros at a rich Jew's house taking the property in his adopted father's own memoir.
dan friesen
So, I mean, that's in there.
If you go find that book, that is in there, except for Alex's editorializing there.
But this quote from the National Review is yet another example of cherry-picking quotes to make Soros seem super evil.
It's taken from page 71 of Tivedar Soros, George's father's memoirs.
One thing that's important to note is that it completely deprives context when you use this quote.
immediately before the passage that Alex just read is this quote Blaufus was charged with the ministry by the ministry with over inventory and confiscated Jewish estates he was home only at weekends the rest of the time he spent taking inventory in the provinces during the week George passed his time alone in Blaufus's apartment lacking anything to do he caught the attention of some of his schoolmates who lived in the building across the way communicating by hand signals they seemed surprised to see him hold up in somebody else's house
The following week, the kind-hearted Blaufus, in an effort to cheer up the unhappy lad, took him off with him to the provinces.
So you already have the context here of he's hiding in this guy's house, and he's fucking miserable.
He's sad.
He's isolated, doesn't know what to do.
So the godfather takes him with him on this one time.
To the provinces.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So it hurts the argument that he was working rounding up and inventorying Jew property and stuff working for the Nazis when you realize that this passage where he went to this estate and was wined and dined or whatever...
It's in the context of someone who's...
jordan holmes
Take your son to work day.
dan friesen
More or less.
It's very clearly written out there.
Now, immediately after this, Tivedar goes on to describe how Blaufus tried to accommodate a sad young boy living in hiding with him.
So he allowed him to go roam the hills and explore in Budapest.
There, he's almost discovered by a guard, but is allowed to pass after showing his fake papers.
This is then related to a story of George's friend, Jeremiah, who was not so lucky.
And ended up going to the gas chambers.
So the reality of this story, this piece of the story that they're cutting out, is taken from a larger hole of Tivedar sort of relaying this part of Soros' life when he was younger, when he was in hiding, and was miserable, and this guy tried to cheer him up, and he took him along to this estate where they had some wine and met.
Some folks, and he took note of some of the things that were in the house that were going to be confiscated.
Who gives a shit?
And then he came back and...
jordan holmes
Nearly died.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
You know how a lot of...
dan friesen
Like the reality of the Holocaust was there, and that they were on the cutting edge of almost dying at all times.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Jesus.
That's just fucked up.
And they...
Try and paint him as a Nazi collaborator.
With this?
When there's an amazing escape that he made from getting out of it, from not being killed.
Like, you very well may not have had any sorrows to bitch about because he could have died at any fucking moment.
dan friesen
Now, I want to say this super clearly.
I have had tons of people who have found the article that I wrote about how Soros wasn't a Nazi collaborator on our website.
Tons of people have come and found the article who don't know our podcast or anything like that, and they will say, yes, he was.
I'll ask them for a point, and then I will rebut their point.
No one has a good argument.
No one.
Alex doesn't.
Nobody who's come and tried to flex has a good argument.
And there's something that I've started to fucking realize that really, really disappoints me.
And that is that all these people who have this Soros brainwagon, worm going on.
You know what they have?
They have more fucking sympathy for the Nazis than a 13-year-old kid.
Yeah.
unidentified
Who was the target of the Nazis.
dan friesen
I can't understand how all of these people are like, no, he was bad news.
He went around and maybe wrote down in a notebook that there was a vase in someone's house.
Ha-ha, we got him!
Like, you know they were fucking mass-killing people, right?
You know that.
There were ovens.
unidentified
Eh.
dan friesen
You understand?
unidentified
Eh.
dan friesen
You know the reality of the situation that was going on.
jordan holmes
Eh.
dan friesen
I feel like writing down, there's a vase over here, is pretty small potatoes.
jordan holmes
Collaborating.
dan friesen
I honestly think, like, if this is what you got...
You are in embarrassment.
Stop!
jordan holmes
Done.
Collaborator and listen.
dan friesen
Okay.
I just think, like, that's some soft shit.
And when Alex and Roger are sitting here talking about, like, we're victimized because we're a beacon of truth, and then you come with that weak bullshit, and National Review should be fucking ashamed of themselves for printing that quote without the context of the part in the book that's right around it.
Like, this is disgraceful shit.
And yes, it is anti-Semitic, because they are targeting him specifically.
Like, not because he's Jewish, but about a part of his Judaism.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then Alex even later, like, he rambles about Soros for a bit.
He goes on to be like, he's Jewish, but he doesn't like Judaism.
Like, he's not Jewish enough for Alex somehow.
And that invalidates his experience in the Holocaust or something?
I have no fucking idea.
But it just, like, all this is to say is, come at me.
I don't even like Soros, and I'll fight any of you.
Not a physical fight, but I want someone to actually make a good point that doesn't have to do with that one little possible insider trading thing that he did in the late 80s.
Anything else?
jordan holmes
I think it's fun that earlier, after Kunas...
I was like, yeah, see, the difference is between, you know, the soft J and the hard J in Jew, and then later on he hits the hard J in Jew.
They're going to some rich Jew's house.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Like, thanks.
Thanks, Alex.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Good work.
dan friesen
And if we needed more evidence, I don't think we do, but if we did need more evidence of this being a very white-centric operation, I submit to you this clip of Roger Stone.
This is a Mike Down clip.
roger stone
You know, people, there was a lot of commentary about the nomination and election of an open socialist in the Democratic Party in Queens, New York.
People, I don't think, realize that Cortez defeated Joe Crowley, who was an old-line, machine, white, working-class, traditional liberal Democrat, who should have been unbeatable.
alex jones
Who was, by the way, I don't give a damn if he's white or whatever, I hate these guys, but compared to her, he was actually delivering to people.
So they've now put a person in that doesn't know anything about this.
roger stone
He was a classic liberal.
We don't agree with him, but he's a decent sort of fellow.
And the fact that she's able to beat someone, that tells you what's happened in the Democratic Party.
There's no room for moderates in the Democratic Party.
There's not even room for classical liberals in the Democratic Party.
The Democratic Party is now the party of Andrew Gillum and Cortez.
dan friesen
What does that mean?
What does that tell you?
He named two people of color.
A Democratic party is not for whites anymore, guys.
jordan holmes
She beat a white man who's a classic liberal.
She shouldn't have been able to do that.
dan friesen
He's a decent fella.
jordan holmes
He's a decent fella.
We disagree with him.
dan friesen
Any other circumstance, they wouldn't be saying he's a decent fella.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
Any other circumstance, they'd be like, he's a globalist.
But listen to me.
jordan holmes
He used to deliver for people.
What has Alexandria Cortez done, huh?
Dan, name me one policy she's gotten through Congress.
dan friesen
I mean, she just got elected yesterday.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Tell me, well, then why hasn't she gotten to work yet?
In the first hundred days of Trump's administration, he did it all!
dan friesen
Well, look, so I don't think there's any way to look at that other than Roger Stone very clearly trying to express that the Democratic Party is not a place for whites anymore.
Like, I just don't think that there's any way to cut that.
But I think that it's really interesting to hear Alex trying to be like, I don't care if you're white or not.
Like, Alex is trying to, like, walk Roger back a little bit.
And then he's like, it's the party of Andrew Gillum and Alexandria Cortez.
Not white people.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That's a very decent white man that you beat.
jordan holmes
Look, he delivered.
He delivered for his people.
dan friesen
Crazy.
jordan holmes
Should have been unbeatable.
He was white!
dan friesen
It's crazy the level that that is, like, that's such a harsh dog whistle.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I like that, well, Alex has to walk it back a little bit, because he's being sued so much for all the dumb shit he's saying, whereas Roger, fuck yeah, I'll throw it out there.
dan friesen
Living his most racist life.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm Roger Stone.
I'll be a white supremacist, whatever.
dan friesen
So, though he's very clearly expressing a white supremacist position, Roger also has the gift of the second sight.
He has the gift of the second sight?
He says sooth.
Okay.
Because towards the end of the show, it comes out that Jeff Sessions has been fired.
jordan holmes
Yes, he has been fired.
dan friesen
People are trying to present that as a resignation, but when you write in your resignation letter, you asked me to quit?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's getting fired.
That's a fire.
So, in this next clip...
jordan holmes
Did you hear who he's appointed to replace him?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's that Whitaker guy, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know the guy who ran the law firm that was a scam?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Scamming people and the guy who hates Mueller so much, it's almost like he's gearing up to fire Mueller.
dan friesen
I didn't have enough time to look into him all that much before we started recording because it was evolving over the course of the day.
So we're recording this here on Wednesday.
All I did was look at a picture of him and I got really freaked out.
He looks really scary.
And then, second, everyone was tweeting that article where he's talking about how the Mueller probe might be going too far and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
But also, from everything I was able to glean, again, in my elementary research, indicated that Rosenstein would still be in charge of the probe until someone is confirmed as AG.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know if that's 100% accurate, but that was the sense I was getting.
I do believe that it's a ploy to get rid of the probe, and it's an indication that, like, uh-oh, now that they have subpoena power in the House, I got a lot to be worried about.
jordan holmes
So you're saying that there's a committee, and the head of that committee is going to be able to subpoena my tax returns, and if I just say no, then it's going to be in the courts?
dan friesen
Wait, wait, what about my buddy Trey?
jordan holmes
Nope.
unidentified
Gowdy isn't there to protect me no more?
dan friesen
But Alex in this next clip is talking about how Roger predicted that Sessions was going to be fired.
jordan holmes
I think, didn't everybody, didn't he literally say like a month ago that after the midterms, Sessions is going to be fired?
dan friesen
Well, also, Roger and Alex have been screaming for Sessions to be fired for God knows how long.
They do it all the time.
You know, eventually you're going to be right with the Trump administration if you're calling for someone to get fired.
jordan holmes
Or someone to leave.
dan friesen
It's only a matter of time.
But Alex claims that Roger has prognosticating abilities.
But the way he phrases it is really troubling.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, exactly as Roger Stone predicted a month ago and last night, he said if you want to change the subject, Mr. President, he said it right towards the end of our broadcast when Owen and the rest of the crew took over, he said you must fire Sessions.
And Rosenstein to change the narrative from the election loss, which was barely a loss, which is still a loss, but it shows that if we didn't have treason, we would have won.
dan friesen
We need a mem.
jordan holmes
Without treason, we would have won, Dan.
dan friesen
And we need a mem.
You need to fire him so we can change the conversation from the midterms.
This is just them knowing how propaganda works.
And good on them.
But again...
jordan holmes
Wait, good on them?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, for knowing how propaganda works.
It's their business.
They better know how it works.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good point.
dan friesen
It's more what I'm saying is, like, they've been screaming this forever.
Of course, eventually they're going to be right.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And they're actually, I think they're externalizing things a little more than they should.
The idea of, like, Mr. President, change the narrative by firing your attorney general.
It's pretend, like, I don't, I'm not 100% sure that's what Trump is doing.
But if it is, and they're saying, like, this is what he should do.
It all looks really bad.
Because why are you changing the narrative?
What's wrong with the narrative of you guys not really losing?
jordan holmes
I mean, that narrative still forces you to admit that you lost.
And you can't do that.
dan friesen
You can't admit that you lost.
jordan holmes
Trump can't admit that he lost.
He's the one who's a god king.
dan friesen
He wins everything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he always wins.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex, for most of the rest of the appearance, and after this, Paul Joseph Watson hosts The Force of the Power, so who cares?
But Alex keeps saying he's going to take calls.
He doesn't.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
And then it's just kind of like an angry bragging kind of thing where they're just talking about how great they are.
And in this next clip, I just think this is so funny.
Alex is talking about how American he is.
And then he's like...
I was like, I'm going to give my bona fides, and then he doesn't.
alex jones
You got traitors that sold the country out, working with foreign powers, claiming that known super patriots like Donald Trump, Roger Stone, and Alex Johnson.
I'm not bragging, but I'll tell you my bona fides.
jordan holmes
Bona fides?
alex jones
Ridiculously.
It's ridiculous, okay?
jordan holmes
Super patriot.
alex jones
The whole point is that they all know you cannot get more thoroughbred America than me.
It doesn't exist, okay?
It does not exist.
And so the claims of all this...
jordan holmes
My answer is for the Confederacy!
alex jones
Infinity times a trillion garbage.
dan friesen
Okay.
Infinity times a trillion garbage.
jordan holmes
It doesn't get more American than fighting against the Union.
dan friesen
Sure, sure, there's that.
He also has advocated for Texas to secede a number of times.
jordan holmes
But that's because he's so American!
dan friesen
So American.
And then you've got Roger Stone, who made millions and millions of dollars working for foreign governments that were not...
Necessarily in America's best interest.
jordan holmes
That's the most American thing you can do!
Capitalism, baby!
dan friesen
And then Donald Trump, who has a multinational corporation that he seems to prioritize over United States interests.
I don't think that any of those people I would qualify as super patriots.
jordan holmes
I would actually qualify them as people who actively want to destroy America.
dan friesen
I would qualify them as a trillion times infinity garbage.
jordan holmes
That's a good way to describe him.
dan friesen
Alex is kind of right.
jordan holmes
What is a trillion times affinity?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Like 10?
So throughout this show, Trump has been giving a press conference that went very poorly today.
And the thing that most people have been noting is that he got into a little bit of a fight with Jim Acosta.
And it was pretty ugly to see an adult act that way.
jordan holmes
No, he's a super patriot.
dan friesen
He was very much like...
You're bad.
You're bad.
jordan holmes
What's more important than attacking the free press?
dan friesen
You ask me a question I don't like.
You're bad.
I'm going to have this woman try and wrestle your mic away.
unidentified
You're bad.
dan friesen
You should be ashamed.
I can't believe people let you work for them.
unidentified
So, adults, do we have any?
jordan holmes
Do we have any anymore?
dan friesen
Doesn't seem that way.
But buried in that exchange is Jim Acosta asking about the...
Rhetoric that Trump used about the caravan in the lead up to the midterm.
And Trump's response to that is, I want these people in because we've got jobs we've got to fill with industries coming back.
Because that's a more important piece of his self-perception that he needs to sell is that the jobs are coming back and the markets are doing good.
He only needed to drum up that racist fervor in order to bring people out to vote in the midterm.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
Are you saying it's some sort of stunt?
dan friesen
Yes.
He's abandoned that largely in this exchange.
He's like, yes, I did characterize it as an invasion because I think it is an invasion, but I want the people in.
Like, um, what?
jordan holmes
We need to be invaded!
dan friesen
Because we got jobs to fill, Dan!
jordan holmes
Amazon's splitting up their thing into two things!
Come on!
dan friesen
So noticeably, that's absent from Trump's press conference, and it's also fairly absent from Alex's rhetoric.
He's still a little bit on that tip, and he's like, ah, they're going to crash through the border.
But he said it was going to happen right before the midterms or during the midterms as a stunt, and none of that happened.
jordan holmes
It's happening right away!
dan friesen
So he's got to pivot away from that.
Anyway...
That display in that press conference was petulant nonsense.
It was a childish man lashing out at people who were trying to ask him fair questions.
And this is the response that Alex and Roger have, and I think that they're fairly accurate.
alex jones
Just in such a moment as in beginning to fire Sessions, everything we've wanted, and all the fake QAnon people telling us, oh, Sessions is good.
No, no, no.
No.
The president told me Sessions and people like McCain are pieces of crap a year and a half ago.
dan friesen
When he put Sessions in, he told you he was a piece of crap?
unidentified
Yeah.
What?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
But don't worry, they'll be dealt with.
It's now happening, ladies and gentlemen, and let's get ready for it because I believe, for whatever reason after this election, President Trump's taken the gloves off.
Roger Stone.
roger stone
This may very well be Trump Unchained.
Now you may see the real Donald Trump, the one you just saw slapping Jim Acosta back.
That was the Trump that I know.
That was the Trump that I love.
jordan holmes
The petulant child.
roger stone
He doesn't brook any nonsense.
That's what I love about him.
So get ready for Donald Trump Unchained.
alex jones
God, I'm ready.
dan friesen
That sounded orgasmic.
jordan holmes
Gross!
dan friesen
So that brings us to the end of this adventure on November 7th, 2018.
And I think that what we can glean from it are some positive points towards Alex's show being listenable.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is good for me.
But it's not great for the world.
I mean, the world has got its work cut out for it.
But there was no part of either of us, or any right-thinking person, I believe, who thought that the midterm elections could substantially change the situation we're in.
Even if Democrats had taken over both houses of Congress and won every governor house in the country, that doesn't deal with the issues that we're actually facing.
The government stuff is a real problem, and there's a lot of issues that need to be taken care of that aren't being taken care of, whether it be voter disenfranchisement, big issue, climate change, massive issue, economic disparity, massive issue, those sorts of things.
Sure, those are issues that we need the government to take point on and work towards.
The real issues that we're facing in terms of extremism, in terms of the trend towards...
jordan holmes
White nationalist violence?
dan friesen
Right.
And white nationalist adjacent violence, like misogynistic violence.
I think you could categorize these incel folks that keep shooting people.
Maybe in that camp.
Those sorts of things are the real issues that we need to deal with.
And I don't think any measure of...
Left success in government is going to deal with those things.
So that's my take on it.
There's real positives to take away from the midterms.
There's real unfortunate, should-have-gone-better things to take from it.
And then the bigger picture of we all need to...
I don't know.
I don't know, but the problems are with all of us, not the government.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, not with all of us.
They're with a lot of us.
A very vocal violent section, perhaps.
dan friesen
But that's still our problem, you know?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
That's still our problem to deal with.
And I think that we can help people as much as we can.
I think that there's active soul-searching that even people who aren't extremist, violent people need to do in order to be helpful.
In the coming climate that we're going to be in, you know?
jordan holmes
You mean super hot with most of Florida underwater?
dan friesen
I meant more like interpersonal climate.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
As opposed to the destruction of all life on the planet?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't really have a message about this, but this is much more listenable than Alex has been in months.
So, there's that.
And that's even with Ted Nugent on the show.
So, that's saying a lot.
jordan holmes
Well, you know.
When you have a man who believes in the Constitution and the Ten Commandments, which are perfectly in line with each other, if you recall.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
Everybody knows that nothing goes hand in hand more than the Constitution and the Ten Commandments.
dan friesen
There's that whole amendment about coveting.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, no, we don't deal with amendments.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
Sorry, sorry.
jordan holmes
Wait, the amendment about coveting?
dan friesen
Yeah, the non-coveting amendment.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know, man.
It's a fucking mess.
I don't know.
What are you going to say?
jordan holmes
Do everything we can to get rid of Pelosi!
Go away, Pelosi!
dan friesen
That's fair.
jordan holmes
You've got a chance now to just leave so we can do better things!
dan friesen
Let's hope for the future.
jordan holmes
She's the fucking worst, man.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website, knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
We do!
Can you find us on Twitter where you can't find Alex?
dan friesen
Yep, knowledge underscore fight.
jordan holmes
Can you find us on Facebook where you can't find Alex?
dan friesen
Yep, we're there.
jordan holmes
Do we have a group where you can't find Alex?
dan friesen
Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
jordan holmes
Unfortunately, you can't find Alex on iTunes.
dan friesen
Yeah, no, I don't know.
jordan holmes
You can't.
Find him.
dan friesen
I'm not sure what the status on that is.
jordan holmes
That's an interesting question.
But we're there!
dan friesen
We are.
You can subscribe, leave a review, all that good stuff.
jordan holmes
Do the whole thing.
dan friesen
So, the midterms have come and gone, and I don't think they killed anybody.
I'm not sure.
Maybe some ramifications of them might.
I don't know.
I don't know if anybody died from voting, let's say.
jordan holmes
There was one lady at least who voted and then died before the election.
dan friesen
Is that right?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
I assume those go hand in hand.
dan friesen
If that's true, then the act of voting has the exact same death toll this season as Alex Jones, who theoretically killed a guy.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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