Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the March 10, 2009 episode of The Alex Jones Show. On this episode, Alex is really, really trying to make his audience excited about the upcoming release of the Obama Deception. Alex also lies a bunch about Canada, and responds surprisingly well to a caller who wants to deny the Holocaust on air.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When was the last time you were in court? | ||
| Last time I was in court, um, no, because I feel like the DMV is court-like. | ||
| No, it is not. | ||
| No, it is not. | ||
| I felt like I was on trial. | ||
| Okay, well, you probably would. | ||
| I had to get a new ID, and that was really frustrating. | ||
| So that was like dealing with the state. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's sort of it. | ||
| When I was 19, I got a DUI kind of thing. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I drank at a party, and then as I was driving home from the party, I feel pretty bad about this, but what are you going to do? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No one got hurt. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I was driving home, and I'd left my coat at the party. | ||
| And, you know, it's central Missouri. | ||
| Everybody drives drunk. | ||
| You don't need to preemptively defend your behavior. | ||
| It's an unfortunate reality of, like, that sort of world that I was living in. | ||
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Right. | |
| And it's horrible. | ||
| I look back on it, like, I'm glad everyone... | ||
| Survived for the most part. | ||
| Well, the old joke is like, we don't all have DUIs, but we've all been eligible for one at one point in our lives. | ||
| Especially when you're young and stupid. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So I drank at this party. | ||
| I left my coat there. | ||
| It was really cold outside. | ||
| And as I was driving home, there was an area that's pretty far away from anything. | ||
| Like any businesses or any of that sort of stuff. | ||
| And I hit some black ice on the road. | ||
| And my car slid off the road into a ditch. | ||
| And I tried to get the car out of the ditch. | ||
| I tried to like reverse and all that. | ||
| I didn't have my coat. | ||
| It was before I ever had a cell phone. | ||
| And so I'm like, shit, I need to get out of here. | ||
| What do I do? | ||
| It's super cold. | ||
| I looked around. | ||
| There was nowhere I could walk. | ||
| And so I was just like, fuck it. | ||
| I'm just going to have to bite the bullet on this. | ||
| So I put my flashers on and signaled down a cop. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| A cop came and I was like, uh, look, I've had a few drinks. | ||
| You are not good at preemptive defense if that's your opening line. | ||
| I knew that he was going to give me some kind of sobriety test and odds are it might turn combative. | ||
| Like, I might, uh, like... | ||
| I wasn't afraid of the cop or anything like that, but I was like, what's the use of going through this? | ||
| So I just told him, I've had some drinks, let's take care of this. | ||
| And he's like, alright. | ||
| So he took me down to the station, I got... | ||
| Got in trouble, stayed there. | ||
| A couple hours, my dad came and picked me up. | ||
| Ended up having to go to court, and the cop who arrested me actually wrote a letter to the judge about how cooperative I was. | ||
| Oh, that's nice. | ||
| So it actually worked to my advantage that I flagged down the cop and everything. | ||
| And also, it was a cop in Missouri, so he's like, well, everybody drives drunk here. | ||
| He had maybe a little bit of that in him. | ||
| So he'd written the judge on my behalf, and it ended up becoming a civic infraction. | ||
| It wasn't even a misdemeanor charge. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Take a DUI class and what have you. | ||
| And it was a horrible wake-up call to some extent. | ||
| I never got behind the wheel of a car with any alcohol in my system after that. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I have not ever done that. | ||
| Still not since. | ||
| Well, because the moment when my car slid off the road, and I know it was because I hit this ice, but it was so terrifying. | ||
| That moment of feeling completely out of control. | ||
| It became so viscerally imprinted on me. | ||
| Because... | ||
| When I hit that ice, I knew the ice was the problem. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But also I knew I'm too drunk to handle this. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| So it was really eye-opening and terrifying. | ||
| And fun end to this story. | ||
| The cop who ended up arrested me. | ||
| Arresting me. | ||
| He ended up being the security guard at the movie theater that I managed. | ||
| That's not real. | ||
| That's not real. | ||
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What? | |
| A couple years down the line. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| He was the security guard at the theater you managed? | ||
| Later. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| No, I got that. | ||
| It wasn't like simultaneously. | ||
| A couple years down the line, I'm managing this movie theater, and I have off-duty cops as the security guard who should walk in but this cop who arrested me. | ||
| And we said hello, shook hands. | ||
| He's like, I remember you. | ||
| It was a treat to arrest you. | ||
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I was like, alright, man. | |
| Super cool. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| My story of that ilk was I was actually in some small town doing a show and it was only 25 minutes away from where I grew up. | ||
| Middle of nowhere. | ||
| And I'm comedian drunk. | ||
| It's like 1.30. | ||
| And I'm driving home. | ||
| Comedian drunk could be a bunch of different things. | ||
| Comedian drunk to me on like a road gig is... | ||
| That's buzzed or blackout, by the way. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's one or the other. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I'm drunker than normal human beings should be, but it doesn't affect me as much. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I'm driving home. | ||
| You're a drink ticket drunk. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's the better way to put it. | ||
| I ran out of drink tickets. | ||
| That's how drunk I was. | ||
| And I am driving home on the highway, get off at the stop on my hometown, and I'm like looking around. | ||
| It's two o 'clock in the morning. | ||
| There is no cars for a million miles. | ||
| So I'm just like, fuck this red light, and I just take a left and start going. | ||
| And it turns out... | ||
| Directly behind me was a cop. | ||
| He pulls me over immediately. | ||
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Damn foolish. | |
| He pulls me over immediately. | ||
| He's like, what are you doing? | ||
| Now, this is where being white was fantastic. | ||
| I would also like to say that I recognize the whiteness and illness that came into my story. | ||
| I'm very aware of how lucky I am in that circumstance. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| No, this is far worse. | ||
| Here's what happened. | ||
| He goes, I watched you just do that. | ||
| And I was like, does he not know there's a cop behind him? | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
| And I'm like... | ||
| You know, it's like 2am, there's nobody driving, and I really gotta pee. | ||
| And he's like, well, don't do that anymore! | ||
| And lets me go. | ||
| Don't be, ever again. | ||
| Lets me go, immediately. | ||
| Like, that was it. | ||
| So, in case you were wondering if white privilege was a thing. | ||
| In both our cases, perhaps. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| Played a part. | ||
| Tiny bit. | ||
| So, that's not what this show is about. | ||
| It's about Alex Jones, how I know a lot about him. | ||
| And I only know what you tell me about him. | ||
| That is correct. | ||
| Today, we've got an interesting bit of business to go over. | ||
| But before we get to today's episode, I would like to take a step. | ||
| Back from Alex Jones and from our stories of run-ins with the police. | ||
| And say thank you to a couple of new donors. | ||
| Jordan, today, first of all, I would like to say thank you to someone who has just joined up and supported the show. | ||
| Thank you so much, Will. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Will. | ||
| Thank you very much, Will. | ||
| I'd also like to say thank you to someone else who has just joined up. | ||
| Thank you so much, David. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, David. | ||
| David, welcome aboard. | ||
| Also, one last thank you. | ||
| And this one is for someone who has joined at an elevated level. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| Right out the gate? | ||
| And also has a pretty cool name, and I'm probably going to fuck it up. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But thank you so much, CloudKilledAerith. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Don't be a mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Also, Sephiroth killed Aerith, and if you are implying that it is due to Cloud's actions that Aerith died, I agree with you wholeheartedly, but Sephiroth did deliver the killing blow. | ||
| Cloud, near the end, just couldn't do it. | ||
| So, how dare you, sir? | ||
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Oh boy. | |
| How dare you, sir? | ||
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Nerds. | |
| Final Fantasy VII is a seminal moment in my life. | ||
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Nerds. | |
| Shut up! | ||
| I've heard that's a good game. | ||
| I wish I had played more RPGs growing up. | ||
| You know how real this dude is? | ||
| Or woman. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Don't gender our donors. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| Aerith? | ||
| Japanese translation. | ||
| Aeris is the American translation. | ||
| So this dude knows what's up. | ||
| Or lady. | ||
| Or person? | ||
| Just person. | ||
| This person knows the show. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Beyond knowing what's up, they have supported the show in a big way, and I really appreciate it. | ||
| Oh, so very much. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| If you out there would like to support the show, we would really appreciate it. | ||
| You can do that by going to knowledgefight.com, our website, and clicking support the show. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we are still back in 2009, because I emotionally cannot... | ||
| Handle the prospect of listening to Alex Jones in the present. | ||
| Now, I know I could tell you what he's saying, I'm sure, that these women who are accusing Kavanaugh are liars, it's deep state operatives or some bullshit like that. | ||
| That's a brand new take on it, and I don't know how we could not, how could we not tackle that? | ||
| Hot of a take. | ||
| That unique of a point of view on this particular circumstance. | ||
| I don't foresee anything that he's saying not coming back to some sort of dumbass deep state bullshit or the chai comms or something. | ||
| Or it's just a conspiracy that the Clintons are putting together. | ||
| I mean, hell, that's on Fox News or whatever. | ||
| No, no, no! | ||
| Heaven all fucking said it! | ||
| Totally possible, by the way. | ||
| God, we're dead. | ||
| It's not possible. | ||
| But the reason that I don't want to go into any of that is because I just don't feel like it's fertile territory. | ||
| I don't think what he's going to bring to the table is going to be in any way interesting. | ||
| And then we already know that his modus operandi now is being a multi-level marketing guy who's on the brink of possible self-destruction. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it feels ugly to look at it. | ||
| I don't think that even though we're being critical, I still don't think that it's... | ||
| Good to look at that. | ||
| It's not good to give it attention. | ||
| I would like to know what his ad pivots for the multi-level marketing scheme are, though. | ||
| Maybe we'll check in eventually, and I'll try and sort that out. | ||
| Yeah, I want to get a... | ||
| How do you even ad pivot into the, like... | ||
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Oh, everybody's coming to rape your children. | |
| Easy. | ||
| If you want to become a distributor of Juness products... | ||
| You don't go with that, they're coming for your children angle. | ||
| Instead, you start to... | ||
| You know how back in the 2008, 2009 times... | ||
| Where we are. | ||
| So much of his stuff involves, like, they're going to crash the dollar. | ||
| Oh, here's Bob Chapman to help me sell Ted Anderson's gold. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So what you do is... | ||
| So they're going to crash the economy. | ||
| You're going to be unemployed. | ||
| Here's one way. | ||
| You're not working. | ||
| You're working for the man. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're working for you. | ||
| The globalists want to destroy the middle class. | ||
| This is your ticket to the middle class. | ||
| Yeah, no, that's a good angle. | ||
| So he could do an ad pivot like that. | ||
| Which is why I almost 100% guarantee he has not done that. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I wouldn't come to it. | ||
| So on our last episode, boy, I did not expect for Aussie Mandamus to overtake... | ||
| Life is very fragile in terms of the audience response, but man, people loved the Aussie Mandamus. | ||
| Life's very fragile. | ||
| So that was really fun, that Watchmen review. | ||
| Really hit a lot of people close to home. | ||
| Apparently a lot of graphic novel fans in our audience. | ||
| Can't imagine why. | ||
| Not too surprising. | ||
| Cloud did not kill Aerith. | ||
| So today we jump in on March 10th, 2009. | ||
| The next day after he endorses the Tony Alamo sex cult. | ||
| Where they're marrying kids. | ||
| Let's never speak of that again. | ||
| And keep saying Ozymandamus. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So we're on the next day now. | ||
| And I'll be honest with you, when I started this episode, I fully expected him to come on air and be like, I didn't know about the Tony Alamo situation. | ||
| I am so sorry. | ||
| I just went off half-cocked without the information. | ||
| And I will say this, Jordan. | ||
| He does make one retraction on this episode. | ||
| But I will not tell you whether it has to do with Tony Alamo or not. | ||
| He's gonna say it's Ozymandamus, isn't he? | ||
| I'll say in advance that that is not what the return is. | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| So let's start the episode. | ||
| Somehow I feel like that's the most important one. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's endorsing a child Mary. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Probably the child rapist. | ||
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Far more important. | |
| Endorsing the child rapist is bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It's a bad look. | |
| But I mean, Ozyman, Damus, come on. | ||
| It's egregious linguistically. | ||
| So here we go. | ||
| We're going to start where Alex starts the episode. | ||
| Is he going to be talking about... | ||
| You know, the Tea Party. | ||
| Is he going to be talking about the flu, avian flu stuff that he's building up to? | ||
| Is it the Tenth Amendment? | ||
| What is it going to be? | ||
| We've been getting a lot of threats and a lot of chicanery going on. | ||
| The enemy knows this is going to be powerful, and I will tell them now, this film is going out. | ||
| We trust in God, and we know it's going to make it out. | ||
| We know it's going to get it out. | ||
| I'm tempted to just slam it in high gear and release it right now. | ||
| Do it! | ||
| So this is 19, 20 minutes into his broadcast, and so far, all he's been doing is promoting the Obama deception. | ||
| Oh, that's which film he's talking about. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And there's chicanery going on? | ||
| There's behind-the-scenes chicanery. | ||
| In what direction? | ||
| Towards whom? | ||
| Towards Alex, but he's very unspecific about it. | ||
| We're going to see where his head is at. | ||
| He's saying he's tempted to release it now. | ||
| In fact, I may just release it. | ||
| Do it! | ||
| I may release it right now. | ||
| Do it! | ||
| Because this sucker is going to blast the New World Order big time. | ||
| Is it going to put them on blast? | ||
| And I want you when it goes up on Google and YouTube. | ||
| I want you to get it and I want you to put it on every MySpace account, every Facebook account. | ||
| I want it to every email list over and over again. | ||
| I want it to be posted on every message board and forum out there. | ||
| I want it to immediately go mega viral supernova. | ||
| Advertise for free for me. | ||
| And then when these zombies come to your door, I want you to have DivX copies ready for them. | ||
| And I want you to tell them, this is the red pill. | ||
| You know the Matrix? | ||
| All I'm offering is the truth. | ||
| Nothing more. | ||
| You've been betrayed. | ||
| Bush and Obama are evil. | ||
| Do you truly want to fix things? | ||
| Do you truly want real change? | ||
| Here's the red pill. | ||
| And then just shut the door. | ||
| Countdown. | ||
| Countdown. | ||
| In fact, that's it. | ||
| We're launching early. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Whoa, that happened! | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I mean, in a way, there's two schools of thought. | ||
| Building up the momentum and then launching it on that date. | ||
| I'll have to think about it. | ||
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What? | |
| Wait, what? | ||
| I thought you just dropped it! | ||
| I have to think about it. | ||
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What now? | |
| It's just so much is going on. | ||
| So much is happening. | ||
| The enemy is moving so quick. | ||
| I want to drop now. | ||
| I'm over the target right now. | ||
| Should we release it now? | ||
| Bombs away on the info war? | ||
| Or should we wait? | ||
| Building up the momentum. | ||
| building up the big dynamos, the servos, the reactor core, as the huge generators power up to fire a devastating blow against This is still going! | ||
| Oh yeah! | ||
| Wow. | ||
| All the way out to break. | ||
| I feel like he pays sex workers to tape a copy of the Obama deception to their face while he says exactly that. | ||
| I could see that. | ||
| To them while he fucks. | ||
| That's disgusting. | ||
| That was gross. | ||
| So, he spent... | ||
| 19 to 20 minutes of the beginning of his show, just pimping his documentary, then announces, we're going to fucking do this now because there's so much trouble behind this. | ||
| Well, maybe not. | ||
| There's something to be said for doing an ad campaign. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What are we going to do? | ||
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But who knows? | |
| I'm right, though. | ||
| We know that much. | ||
| So that's a cool headspace. | ||
| Not really discussing any news, per se, in the beginning. | ||
| No, well, news is hard. | ||
| Well, but this is 20 minutes of a four-hour show. | ||
| I know that that's a whole lot of show that he has to do, but still, that's a big chunk of it just to dedicate to my DVD is coming out. | ||
| His DVD is coming out, though. | ||
| And it might be coming out right now. | ||
| Might not be. | ||
| And not only that. | ||
| Might not be. | ||
| Not only that. | ||
| But you better share it. | ||
| It better go mega-viral. | ||
| Mega. | ||
| Mega-viral. | ||
| That's why he doesn't want people to take vaccines. | ||
| Then it won't go mega-viral. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So, this next clip is one of the instances of, like, when I was listening to this episode, it made me realize that I kind of like a lot of songs that I didn't realize I liked. | ||
| And it might just be because the juxtaposition with Alex is, like, he sucks so much that I actually kind of like the police. | ||
| What do you mean you kind of like the police? | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| This is an SOS. | ||
| The republic's been seized by offshore banks. | ||
| England, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, the United States are falling to classic military tyranny. | ||
| The coup d 'etat has been launched. | ||
| A corporate takeover is near completion. | ||
| The people must be alerted to this fraud immediately or they're going to go into the next phase. | ||
| Total depression, total implosion by design to cause worldwide rioting and bring in a world government. | ||
| They'll then turn the economy on for a time to sell everybody that globalism is the answer, and then they will clamp down even stronger after that, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Fight back against the bankruptcy. | ||
| So is it out? | ||
| This Sunday evening at 6 p.m. | ||
| Oh, now it's Sunday? | ||
| Yeah, apparently. | ||
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Well, what day is it now? | |
| About launching it Friday. | ||
| I will tell you that right now. | ||
| So, we're all over the map in terms of when this thing is going to come out, but it's your best way to fight the bankers and the criminals who have taken over. | ||
| Also, I'd like to point out to the audience that Jordan, in the middle of that clip, wrote down on his notepad, Stuart Copeland with an exclamation point. | ||
| Exclamation point! | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| I think that... | ||
| His drumming was fucking revolutionary. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| It was spectacular. | ||
| I take that. | ||
| Walking on the moon, his hi-hat work is... | ||
| Set the gold standard. | ||
| I think it's a little soft. | ||
| Not the drumming, but their music as a whole. | ||
| I never really liked it much. | ||
| I'm willing to believe that they're a better band than I realize or care to know. | ||
| But I always compartmentalize them in real easy listening soft rock. | ||
| I'm right there with you if it weren't for Stuart Copeland. | ||
| I'm genuinely serious. | ||
| Anytime I listen to the police, I'm always listening for what Stewart's doing. | ||
| Because he wasn't a flashy drummer. | ||
| He wasn't doing fills left and right. | ||
| The man was just fucking on point. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| On point. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Technical superiority. | ||
| So what we've learned so far, Stuart Copeland revolutionized drumming. | ||
| Alex may put out the Obama deception immediately. | ||
| Or it could be Sunday. | ||
| Or maybe Friday. | ||
| Or it could be Friday. | ||
| Who fucking knows? | ||
| There's a lot of production meetings going on on air right now. | ||
| But there's so much going on behind the scenes where he's being attacked. | ||
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Right. | |
| He knows that he's got to get this out because it's the death blow to the globalists. | ||
| It's going to take him down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, that all is the first, like... | ||
| Is anything going on in the real world, though? | ||
| Well, we're about to get to it. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But this is the first, like, 40 minutes of the show or something like that. | ||
| It's interminable, his talking about the Obama deception. | ||
| 40 minutes! | ||
| And having seen the Obama deception and knowing that, hey, boy, that did not take down the globalists. | ||
| And it was also interminable. | ||
| Yeah, there's a little irony to that. | ||
| But now, Alex gets into a story. | ||
| It's out of the great white north, Canada. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, we can't have them on. | ||
| Alex makes a number of really deeply problematic errors in reporting this story. | ||
| And this is going to be avian flu all over again, but without 9-11 bloggers. | ||
| Canada was invaded by the Chinese! | ||
| Look at this story. | ||
| This is from prison. | ||
| Planet.com, and it is hyperlinked to all the mainstream news backing up the claims we make here. | ||
| In fact, most of this article is simply quotes from the mainstream news. | ||
| Now listen to this carefully. | ||
| It's not really good, is it? | ||
| Glenn Beck says he doesn't know if the FEMA camps are real. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| Canadian military units to undertake domestic security. | ||
| Duties would include mass internment of citizens. | ||
| After terrorist attack mirroring militarization of law enforcement in U.S. and Britain, the Canadian military is reorganizing its priorities to suit a post-9-11 world by creating reservist units for each area of the country that would be tasked with providing domestic security. | ||
| That's a quote. | ||
| It involves such roles as the mass internment of citizens in the event of a terrorist attack. | ||
| That is a very aggressively worded measure, if true. | ||
| Well, we've got another instance of Alex just reading a Paul Joseph Watson article from Prison Planet. | ||
| And there are some quotes in this. | ||
| This is from Maple Leaf 9-11 blogger? | ||
| Might as well be. | ||
| So there's some very deep problems with this. | ||
| The first of all is one thing I want to get into is just a foundational problem with this line of thought. | ||
| The reason that American troops in the military can't serve domestic operations, except for at the whim of the governor of a state, is because of the Posse Comitatus Act, which is American law, not Canadian. | ||
| No, it applies to Canadians. | ||
| Like the First Amendment. | ||
| The idea that Canada has the same laws as us is another hurdle that we're going to have to just get over from the jump. | ||
| Have they never heard of Rome? | ||
| Because they're pretending that we do have the same laws. | ||
| And that's a problem for their argument. | ||
| So Canada does not have the same laws as America, so their rules regarding troops operating domestically are a little different than ours. | ||
| In 1922, Canada passed their National Defense Act, which lays out the rules under which their military could operate. | ||
| According to Section 6 of the National... | ||
| Wait, 1922? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this is a little bit too recent for Alex to know about it. | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| I mean, Canada has such a super, like, a really interesting history in terms of when they broke away from the UK and when they were still under the crown. | ||
| Yeah, and there's so many gradients to, like, how autonomous are you throughout history. | ||
| And what did you guys do to the Acadians? | ||
| 1922 is when they passed this National Defense Act. | ||
| And according to Section 6 of the National Defense Act, and I quote, The Canadian forces, any unit or other element thereof, and any officer or non-commissioned member with material, are liable to be called out for service in aid of the civil power in any case in which a riot or disturbance of the peace beyond the powers of the civil authorities to suppress. | ||
| They're pretty clear that the civil powers can utilize commissioned persons for things that they feel that they can't handle on their own. | ||
| Section 6 even goes further to say the following Quote, nothing in this part shall be deemed To impose liability to serve In aid of civil power without his consent On an officer or non-commissioned member Of the reserve force who is by virtue Of the terms of his enrollment Liable to perform duty on active service own way People who are opposed to being used To assist with the requests of civil authorities Have the right to refuse to take part if they want to. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, they don't even have to. | ||
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Really? | |
| If it's like helping out after a flood or something like that, they can just say, I don't feel that's appropriate, and they are not required to do that. | ||
| Or if it's like, we need to shut down this riot, and they're like, no, I think the riot's probably a good idea. | ||
| They're like, yeah, yeah, no. | ||
| They're not compulsed to do that under the National Defense Act of Canada. | ||
| I'm going to say that they do not have the same laws that we do. | ||
| And it's very clear, just from that... | ||
| Basic foundation document of the Canadian military that they can be called out if the civil authorities deem a situation beyond their control. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So now about this actual article that Paul Joseph Watson wrote, as is always the case... | ||
| Alex is just reading this post by Paul Joseph Watson, who sensationalized an existing story to the point where Alex can use it as fuel to scare his audience. | ||
| In this case, it's a story about some reorganizations going on in the Canadian military. | ||
| The story comes out of the National Post, which is a conservative-leaning paper out of Toronto, and if you pay close attention, you find the very specific points where Paul Joseph Watson intentionally blurs truth and lies in order to make his angle super nefarious. | ||
| The first is in his opening paragraph. | ||
| Quote, The Canadian military is reorganizing its priorities to suit a post-9-11 world by creating reservist units for each area of the country that would be tasked with providing domestic security and involves roles such as the mass internment of citizens in the event of a terrorist attack. | ||
| That is what Alex just read on the air and it is the first paragraph of Paul Joseph Watson's article. | ||
| Yeah, but I feel like even if that were the case, you wouldn't write it down. | ||
| It would be tough to do that. | ||
| Because, I mean, anybody who read that would be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
| Interning citizens is usually the sign of a dictatorship or fascist government, if you will. | ||
| Well, that's the thing. | ||
| Nowhere in the article he's purporting to cover does the Canadian military discuss mass internment of civilians. | ||
| This is just Paul Joseph Watson's own assertion being passed off as reporting. | ||
| The closest the article comes to supporting that idea at all is, quote, The units will include perimeter security teams prepared to cordon off an area if there was an atomic detonation, nuclear accident, or similar source of wide contamination, and Arctic response groups that are trained to do that. | ||
| There's a big... | ||
| Big difference between mass internment and units trained to cordon off a dangerous area to contain fallout or an outbreak. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Which is what is being described in this article. | ||
| It's a very basic thing where you're just getting specialized teams of people in the places they need to be in case something like that were to happen. | ||
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Right. | |
| When he talks about the post-9-11 world that Paul Joseph Watson referenced in his opening paragraph, there is a guy who said the like... | ||
| Yeah, after 9-11, we all sort of realized that we need to pay more attention to domestic security. | ||
| And I don't think that that's some nefarious code or anything like that. | ||
| I think that's just, oh shit, that could happen here. | ||
| Hey, we do think that it's a good idea for the military to be involved were there to be some sort of... | ||
| A nuclear attack that resulted in the genetic mutations of zombies. | ||
| And so we would allow them to cordon off the area, make sure that everybody was safe, shoot some zombies in the head, required. | ||
| Even take zombies out of the equation, it's still just like, yeah, why wouldn't you cordon off an area? | ||
| Now I just got a mental picture of a bunch of Mounties with, like, police tape, do not cross, and a giant atomic crater. | ||
| Dudley Do-Right is out there. | ||
| Trying to cordon off an area so we can get snidely whiplash this time? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, yeah. | ||
| That's terrible. | ||
| So the way Paul Joseph Watson deals with this problem that the text itself doesn't say anything about mass incarcerations of civilians and does just talk about cordoning off an area where there to be a disaster, the way he deals with it is by filling his article with his own spin. | ||
| This isn't based on anything other than his own perception, and as we've seen so many times in the past, Paul Joseph Watson does not have a good internal compass. | ||
| He's a psychopath. | ||
| From his article, quote, Of course, the necessity of the change is dressed up by using the notion of troops helping people. | ||
| We also learn that one of the duties that the reservists would potentially undertake would be mass interment of civilians in camps or quarantine zones after a biological terror attack. | ||
| That is completely of his own design. | ||
| That's his own interpretation. | ||
| He's making that up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That is not in the article. | ||
| The idea of the quarantine zones is something you could extrapolate from the article, but the mass internment camps for citizens is just completely his own invention. | ||
| So we see this again, like the last time with the avian flu release. | ||
| He was lying based on lies of 9-11 blogger. | ||
| In this case, he's just taking an article and making stuff up about it. | ||
| And then Alex is reading it on air. | ||
| What does he fucking do? | ||
| This? | ||
| He does Alex a really important service. | ||
| No, but I mean, like, what is he doing? | ||
| Creating propaganda? | ||
| On a day-to-day basis, like, this dude wakes up in the morning, reads bullshit. | ||
| Or reality. | ||
| And then just sits around being like, well, how can I write 500 words that are evil about this fairly innocuous thing? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No, 100%. | ||
| He gets up, scans the news, and probably tries to find a few things that fit in with Alex's narratives, repackages them as posts on Prison Planet, because Alex can't do that work on his own. | ||
| He can barely read. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| So he does that for Alex. | ||
| Alex can then take the Prison Planet article and read it, because it's pre-sensationalized, and now he has content for his show. | ||
| Whereas if Alex had to read this article out of the National Post, he'd have a much more difficult time with it, because there are explanations for the things that they're trying to read. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Does he work for Alex? | ||
| PJ Dubs? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Has he quit yet? | ||
| In present day? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because that would be a smarter move. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Bail. | ||
| Bail. | ||
| You've got your own brand now. | ||
| Fucking bail on it. | ||
| We've talked about this a hundred times. | ||
| Unless Alex owns Prison Planet, in which case he's fucked. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Well, then he's fucked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex had Prison Planet going, and Paul Joseph Watson was the editor-in-chief of it. | ||
| And then he took it on as his moniker and Twitter handle and all that. | ||
| But I believe Alex, if he's... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Alex is very dumb. | ||
| But if he's... | ||
| Not the biggest idiot in the world he would have retained rights to. | ||
| Yeah, no, no, absolutely. | ||
| That's a big giveaway. | ||
| Yeah, you want to make sure that PJ Dubs goes down with you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So PJ Dubs goes on to use a quote from the article to jump to an unrelated conclusion. | ||
| So this is from his article. | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| This is a quote from the actual article, and then he follows it up with some analysis. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Quote, the remodeling... | ||
| Quotes heavy. | ||
| Scare quotes heavy under analysis. | ||
| The remodeling of the reserves will see the development of specialist units in four of the military's regional divisions. | ||
| Atlantic, Quebec, Ontario, and the West. | ||
| Now his analysis. | ||
| This is an open announcement that Canada has been subdivided into military units and will be policed by military reservists. | ||
| That's a joke! | ||
| This is not an open announcement of anything of the sort. | ||
| If you pay close attention to the language and the actual quote, this is a development of specialist units in four of the military's regional divisions. | ||
| These regional divisions already exist. | ||
| This is just an implementation of teams specifically trained in dealing with catastrophes that did not seem likely before, but have entered people's minds now in 2009. | ||
| Hey, so you know these guys who are trained to go do this one thing? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, there's this new thing. | ||
| Maybe we should train specific guys who are doing that new thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then the guys who are doing that old thing. | ||
| You know, that way the guys who are just used to doing one thing don't just do that one thing to the people suffering from the new thing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's... | ||
| Pretty simple. | ||
| That's most of what's wrong with this Prison Planet article and Alex Jones' take on it. | ||
| And his fear-mongering that he's trying to do with it. | ||
| But he's not done. | ||
| Alex isn't done talking about it yet. | ||
| But now you know the facts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We are trying to establish a perimeter, said Brigadier General John Collin. | ||
| I do like a Brigadier General. | ||
| Do I see a scenario when we might be obliged to keep people in? | ||
| Probably. | ||
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Oh, probably. | |
| Let me read what the Brigadier General said. | ||
| Do I see a scenario? | ||
| We might be obliged to keep people in. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| You need to be trained to be able to make sure that you don't become a casualty in the process of doing security. | ||
| That's another quote. | ||
| They don't want to be a casualty when they're dealing with the Canadian people. | ||
| So that quote that he's using is in the original article, but it's not really even in context in the original article. | ||
| But if I were to read that sentence, he's like... | ||
| This brigadier general is saying, do I see a situation when we might need to keep people in somewhere? | ||
| Possibly. | ||
| I would respond, so do I. Yeah. | ||
| So do I. Alright, so somebody set off a smallpox bomb. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And instead of just letting people run all willy-nilly, giving everybody smallpox. | ||
| Not even smallpox bomb accident. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Accident that there's a contagion that you need to contain. | ||
| We gotta quarantine people because, you know, everybody's gonna die. | ||
| This is like a serious situation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, we want to train people to not themselves get the smallpox that would render the whole point moot. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that quote, he's trying to make it sound so nefarious, but it's not really. | ||
| It's basically just the idea of... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, I don't see any way around this. | ||
| Like, I don't trust the powers that be in the world or anything like that, but you need better than this. | ||
| Giving people smallpox is a First Amendment right, Dan. | ||
| You need better than this if you're going to make these arguments about this proving prison internment camps and shit like that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I need more from you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That would never be allowed in our Constitution. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| We would never have internment camps. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex talks more about the Canadians and how they have a horrible plight. | ||
| And then he gets back to what he really wants to be doing on this show, which is lazily promoting the Obama deception. | ||
| Meanwhile, Canadian military units prepare to put their citizens in FEMA camps and for the military to patrol the streets of Canada openly being announced. | ||
| In FEMA camps. | ||
| As it's openly being announced in every other Western nation being overtaken by the private banking syndicate, the criminals. | ||
| You know, I began plugging the Obama Deception. | ||
| It's an explosive release coming up this weekend. | ||
| You got bored in the middle of your own story. | ||
| I didn't even give out the toll-free number, I believe. | ||
| I hope everybody will call and order the DVD now at 888-253-3139. | ||
| Make sure to share it on MySpace. | ||
| That's 888-253-3139. | ||
| And I want you to get the DVD. | ||
| I think Rob Dude just hit him with a blow dart with some ether on it. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| Listen to the tone of this voice. | ||
| I wish to make copies of it and get it out to everyone you know. | ||
| Don't call it. | ||
| And when these Obama zombies come to your door promoting their new world, launching them to do, you can give them the Obama deception, which is a red pill, to get them out of the Matrix. | ||
| It is a rope, a ladder, to help them get out of the muck of mind control. | ||
| and bondage that they're in. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| Long exhale. | ||
| That, like, when he's starting to yell there about rope and bondage and stuff like that, that's the equivalent of, like, a guy who's in, like, a fight and, like, his arm has gone numb and so he punches his own arm to try and get the feeling back. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| You still got this! | ||
| You got this in you! | ||
| He's yelling to try and excite himself and it's just not working. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a bummer when Alex is bored by his own propaganda. | ||
| And his own sales. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's bored by both of them. | ||
| He clearly recognizes, one, how weak his bullshit is. | ||
| And then, because it's so weak, he's like, I mean, I guess the Obama deception is coming out. | ||
| Call our toll-free number. | ||
| My favorite thing there is that we're not even an hour into the episode, Alex's episode, and you now have the second time that he's insinuated that Obama zombies are going to show up at your door and you need to have Obama deception DVDs ready to give them. | ||
| He's going to say it even more times. | ||
| You missed an opportunity to say Obambis and I'm out. | ||
| No, he says Obamanoids. | ||
| Oh, he says Obamanoids? | ||
| That's his phrase. | ||
| I prefer Obambis. | ||
| It's not bad, but I think it's too vague. | ||
| It's not specific enough. | ||
| I wouldn't hear that and then be like, oh, that's a zombie Obama. | ||
| Ooh, Barack Obambis. | ||
| Still not good. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| You need the Z in there for zombies. | ||
| Ombees doesn't, that doesn't make me think of zombies. | ||
| What does it make you think of? | ||
| Bob-ombs? | ||
| Kind of, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I can see that. | ||
| So now, what's interesting about this... | ||
| Sexo Bob-ombs! | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Is that a Tom Jones reference? | ||
| No, it's a Scott Pilgrim vs. | ||
| the World reference. | ||
| Sex-bomb? | ||
| Sex-ba-bomb. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Sex-bomb is a Tom Jones song. | ||
| Sex-bomb is a Tom Jones song. | ||
| That's why I... | ||
| Sex-ba-bomb. | ||
| Stop it! | ||
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| I'm sorry. | ||
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When Alex gets bored, I start going crazy. | |
| So in this next clip, we realize that this Canada story isn't really quite done. | ||
| And that's because a couple days earlier, Paul Joseph Watson had written another story about the military in Canada. | ||
| And he references it in his new article, the one that Alex was just going over. | ||
| So Alex brings that up by virtue of covering this story. | ||
| And that one's actually even more interesting. | ||
| Finishing up with this article. | ||
| The story dovetails with a report out of Ontario where authorities are considering using troops, and then it admits in the article they're already doing it, for the local army base to patrol bar areas on weekends. | ||
| You're for stopping drunks, are you? | ||
| See, same thing being done in the U.S. The Marines are here at the checkpoints to stop drunks. | ||
| You're not for drunks, are you? | ||
| We've got to do something about the drunks. | ||
| Meanwhile, they admit, oh, and by the way, we want to put you in FEMA camps. | ||
| We're just getting you ready. | ||
| Using troops from the local army base to patrol bar areas on weekends in supposed attempt to prevent rowdiness. | ||
| This is really interesting because after going on a bunch, having a bunch more glaring reporting errors, Paul Joseph Watson then links back to this story that Alex is now referencing from six days prior about the militarization of the Canadian police, and he is 100% wrong about this. | ||
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What? | |
| Our boy! | ||
| Alex is woefully misunderstanding this story. | ||
| The version he's telling is that these troops from a nearby army base are being used in the city of Barrie because the drinking spots in that town are out of control and they need the military to come in and police them. | ||
| In reality, if you review the Toronto Star article that Paul Joseph Watson is basing this post on, the story is very different. | ||
| According to the Star, "City police and Camp Borden officers are discussing using joint street patrols to help keep the peace in Barry's busy entertainment district on peak weekends. | ||
| The military police would deal only with their own personnel and not civilians in Barry," Barry Police Chief Wayne Frechette said. | ||
| "I think soldiers would be less inclined to cause trouble if they knew it would come up with their bosses on Monday morning." Oh, that actually makes a lot of sense. | ||
| It's like, I don't know, say there's an American army in some sort of country, and instead of being allowed to, I don't know. | ||
| Rape and pillage to their heart's content. | ||
| They were supervised by some sort of over... | ||
| Might help. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That might have helped in many, many, many, many historical situations. | ||
| One of the things that I'm super excited about and really interested in is deconstructing how Paul Joseph Watson is lying back in 2009. | ||
| Because it's really interesting how he misuses sources. | ||
| Like what we found with the avian flu thing, with the 9-11 blogger, the sort of game of telephone he's using with sources. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's really interesting to see how, like, there's no way he's not doing this intentionally. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's absolutely no chance. | ||
| And one of the things that makes me realize that is that he does take a quote from this Toronto Star article. | ||
| I can't remember if it's Sun or Star, these papers. | ||
| Just call yourself the Picayune. | ||
| Wait, every paper is called the Picayune? | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It's better. | ||
| It is fun. | ||
| I'm not going to get confused with anything else. | ||
| I'm not disagreeing with you. | ||
| So he uses the first half of a quote and doesn't use the second half, which invalidates the first half. | ||
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| Listen to this. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| So this is the part that Paul Joseph Watson does include. | ||
| Quote, The part that Paul Joseph Watson neglects to include is the end of Abel's comment. | ||
| Quote, on the other hand, if they are in civilian clothes, how would you know whether or not they're in the military? | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| How do you leave that part out? | ||
| Because you're trying to make the other point. | ||
| You're trying to trick people. | ||
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| So of course you don't leave them the part of the quote that's like... | ||
| I wouldn't know if they were military to begin with. | ||
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| He's trying to present the idea that there is no military rowdiness problem that military police could help keep in line. | ||
| It's all just about the fascist state coming in and tyranny and FEMA in Canada. | ||
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Yeah, I wrote down, like, does Canada even have FEMA? | |
| They can't. | ||
| It's federal emergency management. | ||
| So that puts us squarely in the belief that... | ||
| PJ Dubs does not have some sort of paranoid schizophrenia. | ||
| He might also. | ||
| He is a direct liar. | ||
| It might be both. | ||
| It could be both. | ||
| I don't know why you can't have six, one, half a dozen of the others. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| You're not wrong. | ||
| I think you could have a latent paranoia that you choose to use. | ||
| You know how a lot of... | ||
| Stand-up comics are super mentally unhealthy, and they use that to their advantage. | ||
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No! | |
| What? | ||
| Huh? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| I think there might be something like that. | ||
| My psychiatrist would disagree with you. | ||
| Because I think at this point, after so many years and so much damage done, if Paul Joseph Watson wasn't slightly crazy, I think he would recognize, like, I gotta stop this. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| But that might just be me painting him with a little more humanity than he may have. | ||
| We all thought the same of Aung San Suu Kyi. | ||
| So that's a concrete example of him taking this story and completely lying in order to make his own point. | ||
| And then it needs to be further reinforced that that's fine under Canadian law. | ||
| If the police in Barrie... | ||
| Decide that we could use some help from these troops. | ||
| It is well within the law for them to just do that. | ||
| That's not a problem. | ||
| So all of this is a hot load of nothing. | ||
| But the reason that Alex is kind of like... | ||
| I feigned a little bit of ignorance when you're like, what is he talking about FEMA in Canada? | ||
| It's because he kind of thinks that Mexico, Canada, and America are already the North American Union. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And also, he kind of thinks that we all are subject to the Queen of England. | ||
| Oh, I did not know that. | ||
| At least in 2009, I believe he does think that, based on this next clip. | ||
| And we are under the Queen's control. | ||
| Obama, of course, will kneel before her at a global summit. | ||
| An unprecedented act by a U.S. president. | ||
| They're publicly knighting the last gaggle of crooks that left the Bush administration. | ||
| The move is upon us. | ||
| Military and financial dictatorship over our beloved republic. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| We are in trouble. | ||
| That happened quick. | ||
| We are in trouble because the queen is in charge. | ||
| Obama is going to kneel before her, which is an unprecedented sort of thing. | ||
| I mean, you might have President Bush kissing a Saudi prince's hand. | ||
| I would guess that other presidents have knelt before the Queen before. | ||
| I don't know that to be true. | ||
| I also don't care if they do. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| So this whole Queen character, she controls everything then? | ||
| Everything. | ||
| She controls everything. | ||
| Also, I have bad news. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Unless the Bush people that Alex is referring to were British citizens, technically they can't be knighted. | ||
| He's saying that all these Bush cronies are getting knighted? | ||
| No, I think he was talking about the people from Australia from the Bush. | ||
| They're still under... | ||
| They can totally be knighted, can't they? | ||
| I think Australians can be knighted. | ||
| From what I understand is that if you're not a British citizen... | ||
| So I guess if you lived in Australia and you were a British citizen... | ||
| I don't know how that works. | ||
| I don't know how that works either. | ||
| I'm not an expert on that. | ||
| Fuck that part. | ||
| Don't hold that against me if I'm not. | ||
| But if you're not a British citizen, you can just get an honorary title, which allows you to put the suffix K-B-E after your name, but you aren't knighted, and you cannot call yourself Sir. | ||
| In 2009, Ted Kennedy and John Warner were giving the honorific title at KBE. | ||
| The latter might be seen as a Bush guy, but calling Ted Kennedy that is pretty much a big stretch. | ||
| Before that, it was five years since an American in politics was named KBE, and that was Robert Wooster. | ||
| From Birdie and Wooster? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Birdie, of course, short for Robert. | ||
| In 2002, Alan Greenspan and Rudy Giuliani got the honors of being named KBE. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Well, he was America's mayor. | ||
| Yeah, I think he... | ||
| He was really shiny after 9-11. | ||
| Can they take that back? | ||
| Can they take that back? | ||
| Interestingly, they can. | ||
| Can they? | ||
| They haven't from Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| But it turns out the awarding of these honorary titles has not always gone great. | ||
| For example, in 1923, they awarded one to Benito Mussolini. | ||
| That's probably not great. | ||
| Then they annulled that title in 1940. | ||
| Or one time they gave Nikolai Ceausescu one. | ||
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Ceausescu got one? | |
| In 1978. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah, Ceausescu got one. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| They annulled that one in 1989. | ||
| This is why we can't have the Queen running things, Dan! | ||
| Or that one time they gave an honorific title to Robert Mugabe. | ||
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I was actually going to say, did they give it to Mugabe? | |
| That was going to be my joke. | ||
| That was going to be my joke answer to that. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| In 1994, they gave Mugabe the same KBE title. | ||
| They annulled that one in 2008. | ||
| No real evidence that any Bush players have been awarded these titles, and to present day even. | ||
| Even Obama administration people haven't been given them. | ||
| Yeah, I'm fine with all of that. | ||
| We got Bono. | ||
| We got Angelina Jolie. | ||
| We got Steven Spielberg. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Bono isn't a British citizen. | ||
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No. | |
| Gotcha. | ||
| But that's the cool... | ||
| That was foolish of me, and it took me a second. | ||
| That's the cool thing about these titles, though, too. | ||
| If you aren't a British citizen, and you get one, and then later you become a British citizen, you're automatically a knight. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Is that how that works? | ||
| You become a sir if you become a citizen later. | ||
| No shit! | ||
| A bunch of people have done it. | ||
| God damn it, Giuliani! | ||
| Get on that shit! | ||
| You gotta go. | ||
| Nobody wants you here! | ||
| Yeah, you gotta get out. | ||
| Become a knight! | ||
| That's a really good excuse to become a British citizen. | ||
| I bet if you fucked around and tried that, they would probably annul it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would assume. | ||
| Or you would get a triple-double. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, this is all great. | ||
| Has Ice Cube gotten a KBE? | ||
| No, but Kevin Spacey did in 2015. | ||
| I assume it's just waiting to be annulled. | ||
| I assume that one's going to be taken away pretty quick. | ||
| You gotta assume. | ||
| The thing, though, is the specifics of the people who are given them are people who have some sort of a relationship to Britain. | ||
| I'm sure with Kevin Spacey it was through some sort of acting Shakespearean thing. | ||
| Sure, fine, fuck off. | ||
| And humanitarian things with Angelina Jolie and Bono. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, you have... | ||
| And, of course, the willingness to wear sunglasses at all hours of the day. | ||
| If that was the case, Corey Hart would be a knight. | ||
| Corey Hart is a knight. | ||
| So, look, they've misfired a number of times, to say the least. | ||
| Wait, hold on. | ||
| The British monarchy is misfired? | ||
| You bet. | ||
| How could you imagine such a situation? | ||
| I mean, Mussolini, Ceausescu, and Mugabe. | ||
| It's a murderer's robe. | ||
| It's a literal murderer's robe. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| But at the same time, each of them had a moment when it didn't look like they were going to be as bad as they were. | ||
| Right, like Aung San Suu Kyi. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, she got a Nobel Peace Prize. | ||
| At a lot of people's point of history, before they break terribly, you know, they go way in the wrong direction, there's that glimmer of hope and that look of like, this might work out. | ||
| Maybe if we give somebody the Peace Prize, they won't commit a genocide. | ||
| And that's just not been the case. | ||
| That's just not been the case. | ||
| So, now we get to about the hour point in the show. | ||
| I only know that because Alex comes back from break right at about an hour, and he's got the doctor, Ron Paul. | ||
| Oh, wait, Ron Paul is on this one? | ||
| Ron Paul! | ||
| For real Ron Paul. | ||
| Why are you surprised by that? | ||
| He's on a bunch. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I haven't seen... | ||
| I don't think we've ever done an episode where Ron Paul is on. | ||
| You bet we have. | ||
| Okay, fair enough. | ||
| It's been a long time since we've done an episode where Ron Paul is on. | ||
| There have been a number of times, too, I think, when he's been on and I've just been like, who gives a shit? | ||
| Because it's just his standard sort of fare. | ||
| A lot of the time when he's on, he does this, like... | ||
| Sort of a Steve Pchenik role here in 2009 in some ways. | ||
| Steve Pchenik's not back on the scene until, I think, 2012. | ||
| I think he's laying low in 2009. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So, like, at this point... | ||
| Too many hurricanes around. | ||
| At this point, Alex has got narratives that he wants reinforced. | ||
| And he wants someone who has some sort of external authority and credibility to get his back. | ||
| So he'll have Ron Paul on, and he'll just be like... | ||
| What about this X, Y, or Z thing? | ||
| He's like, well, yes, absolutely. | ||
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That's something we need to be concerned about, but let's audit the Fed. | |
| It always comes back to auditing the Fed, basically. | ||
| Didn't they do that? | ||
| They do. | ||
| They do regularly. | ||
| It's not the way that they want them to. | ||
| Pretty sure Bernie was instrumental in getting the Fed audited, right? | ||
| But he's definitely a bad guy. | ||
| Interesting you should bring that up. | ||
| Ron Paul has an interesting take on Bernie Sanders in 2009. | ||
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It's a good issue. | |
| Like so many of our issues, we bring different factions together, liberal and conservative, under the Constitution. | ||
| Because if you're a good, honest liberal, like Bernie Sanders, he's an honest person, but he's very, very liberal and calls himself a socialist. | ||
| So Alex even is like, yep. | ||
| He's an honest person, but he's very liberal. | ||
| As if those two things are shocking to have next to each other. | ||
| You've got to get past that. | ||
| Yeah, sorry. | ||
| I just couldn't help but notice that. | ||
| According to Alex's John Birch Society, none dare call it conspiracy roots, socialism is a trick to get you into communism, which is authoritarianism. | ||
| So the very idea that he has Ron Paul on his show saying he's great, you know, he's a good kind of liberal, he's a socialist, but he's a good kind of guy, is an invalidation of the idea that socialism is a trick to get you into communism. | ||
| Because even if he agrees with you on auditing the Fed, you can't fucking sign up with this guy who's trying to trick everyone into authoritarianism? | ||
| Absolutely not! | ||
| No! | ||
| It's all bumpus. | ||
| The enemy of my enemy is still a fucking monster trying to get us into communism. | ||
| Right, and Alex is on the same page as Ron Paul. | ||
| He's very pro-Bernie Sanders in 2009. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| Because he's working for transparency with the Fed in the aftermath of the 2008 crisis. | ||
| No, it takes a... | ||
| Really strong propaganda effort to get you to not be on board with Bernie Sanders. | ||
| Like, his message is really kind of universal unless you're a billionaire. | ||
| Like, there's no... | ||
| If you're just, like, a regular person, there's no, like, I hate him because he wants health care for me! | ||
| And he wants the rich to pay more taxes than me! | ||
| And he's saying, oh, I hate him! | ||
| He's the kind of guy, too, though, that there's a lot of possibilities for people to, like... | ||
| Misinterpret him. | ||
| And that's why the propaganda of the right is fairly effective against him. | ||
| Yeah, and yet at the same time he's still the most popular politician in America. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So anyway, I want to take the piss out of Ron Paul a little bit, but we've already talked about how he was probably involved in taking over Dominica. | ||
| That island nation. | ||
| He's probably involved with that white supremacist takeover. | ||
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A little bit. | |
| He very clearly was involved in the writing of his racist-ass newsletter for years. | ||
| He might have been. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| He's also got some fucking dumb ideas about the economy. | ||
| Although I do appreciate him wanting to legalize weed and being non-interventionist. | ||
| I do appreciate those things. | ||
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Great. | |
| Good work, Ron. | ||
| But... | ||
| Your standard dickhole who comes on Alex Jones' show basically wants to spread fear about how the dollar is going to collapse and that you should buy gold. | ||
| That's pretty much the standard operating procedure for most of his guests back in 2009. | ||
| Let's see if Dr. Ron Paul is any different. | ||
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We all have to be prepared. | |
| I think we should prepare our families. | ||
| I think financially, ultimately, they're going to destroy the dollar. | ||
| I don't see anything wrong with people believing in the Constitution and following what they thought should be legal tender and owning a few gold coins and a few silver coins and knowing how to defend themselves. | ||
| That's what the founders talked about. | ||
| With a folksy voice. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| So the founders, if I understand correctly, the founders' mission was like... | ||
| Own a couple gold coins. | ||
| Own some silver coins. | ||
| Know how to defend yourself. | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| That's the Constitution. | ||
| Write it up. | ||
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All right. | |
| Good work, founders. | ||
| So, I mean, Ron Paul, just with the sort of old man, all shucks voice, is the exact same as Bob Chapman coming on his show. | ||
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Yep. | |
| He's spitting out some of the very similar sort of messages. | ||
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Nah, it's okay. | |
| If you're a God-fearing American, maybe you can go to South Africa and rape their lands. | ||
| But, you know, you own a couple gold coins. | ||
| Maybe South African cougar ants. | ||
| You get a few blood diamonds. | ||
| You move on. | ||
| You go on. | ||
| So, now, Ron Paul has left. | ||
| And Alex is left to his own devices. | ||
| And what do you know? | ||
| He gets back to promoting the Obama deception. | ||
| He is still obsessed with the idea of giving out these DVDs when Obama zombies come to your door. | ||
| But he takes it a step further that stinks of desperation. | ||
| And so what we need to do is every time they come to your door, you need to counter it with the Obama deception. | ||
| But more than that, go out. | ||
| Go to... | ||
| By the way... | ||
| Before we get to this, that really sounds like a Final Fantasy situation. | ||
| Yes, it does. | ||
| The Obama zombies come to your door, and then you counter them with the Obama Deception DVD. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You use the counter material, which, of course, you've developed enough AP points to get... | ||
| You better. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, if you pay... | ||
| I mean, if you have a master counter material, you're going to counter almost 80% of the time. | ||
| You've got to buy those AP points, though, from the InfoWars store. | ||
| You don't buy AP points, Dan. | ||
| You earn them from the InfoWars store. | ||
| But more than that, go out. | ||
| Go to USAService.org. | ||
| Every small town, every big city has Obamanoid zombie meetings. | ||
| This is like the early Nazi party, but they mean well. | ||
| They think they're repudiating Bush. | ||
| They don't know it's the same agenda on steroids. | ||
| You need to reach out to them. | ||
| You need to go to their meetings and say, oh yeah, I'm against Bush. | ||
| Oh, all the secret arrests and the wars, but what about Obama? | ||
| Check out this film. | ||
| Tell me what you think about it. | ||
| And they're real cult-like. | ||
| The leaders will try to kick you out, but some will notice and say, hey, that's wrong. | ||
| And say, okay, well, come outside if you want me to give you DVDs. | ||
| And then have a camera with you, and knowing them, they might start calling the cops. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| Get out of the library. | ||
| You're like, well, I'm allowed to be here. | ||
| I just came to your meeting. | ||
| Because they'll act like you're a terrorist or something. | ||
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How dare him? | |
| He's wanting to stop Obama. | ||
| And then you can show that video of them flipping out. | ||
| Alex is completely imagining this scenario, but what he does want is for people to go agitate in places with his DVDs, get video of it, and then that's buzz marketing. | ||
| Alex, from a very early point... | ||
| understood the value of that sort of sensational video content. | ||
| And so that's kind of impressive. | ||
| That's why Jack Posobiec and all of those fucking guys. | ||
| That's why they are his children to some extent. | ||
| It's not to say that other people weren't making prank videos back then, but possibly not to the extent of harnessing that as a marketing tool. | ||
| Alex is very savvy about that, and you can hear it in what he's telling his audience to do. | ||
| He's telling them to go out and bait people into yelling at you, which he can then use for marketing. | ||
| It's like, oh look, they're so scared of this innocuous DVD. | ||
| The Obama Deception, now! | ||
| I'm not saying that if you have a copy of The Obama Deception, you shouldn't be allowed in the library. | ||
| I can't believe anyone ever bought one. | ||
| What I'm saying is that every library should have a metal detector, but it only detects copies of The Obama Deception, and if you have one, you have to leave it at the door. | ||
| It's comical to me that anyone ever would buy this DVD. | ||
| Isn't it just on YouTube? | ||
| It's free everywhere. | ||
| It's insane to me. | ||
| Then Obama supporters will see that online, and then they'll go watch the Obama deception. | ||
| It's going to be everywhere for free, but you get it in high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv and the DVD at Infowars.com. | ||
| Folks, we're launching this sucker. | ||
| I want you to go to Infowars.com. | ||
| If you've got a bookstore or a church or a school or a convenience store, a gas station, everything Obama sells, know that. | ||
| Incredible hype out there. | ||
| And so you've got the stack of them sitting there, and they're like, what are those? | ||
| Oh, that's the Obama deception. | ||
| That gets into how he's really working with Bush and others. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I want to see that. | ||
| That's another imagined interaction. | ||
| Anything Obama sells, so please buy my shit in bulk. | ||
| You'll be able to move, and I promise you, everyone's going to want to buy this. | ||
| Buy a bunch. | ||
| You got a gas station. | ||
| Buy a ton of them. | ||
| We all know how those DVD racks are full of quality programming at gas stations. | ||
| All the times that we've gone and done road shows, ended up at some fucking gas station with a shower in it. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Killing a little bit of time at that truck stop. | ||
| You watch the Obama Deception. | ||
| What's this fake Iron Man movie? | ||
| Oh, good. | ||
| Oh, that one's actually good. | ||
| Oh, Alex Jones is in this fucking wreck. | ||
| It's called Ferris Man. | ||
| It's pretty good. | ||
| I told you up top at the beginning of this episode that Alex Jones had a retraction to make. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I said, you know, I fucking hoped it would be about Tony Alamo because that was pretty disgraceful at the end of the last episode. | ||
| I still got my fingers crossed for Ozzy Man Davis. | ||
| Alright, I'm going to spend five minutes with Jason Bermas for a quick retraction and then a beef up. | ||
| It's a retraction and then a beef up. | ||
| So it's a retraction and then a doubling down. | ||
| It will be followed by a beef up. | ||
| A beef up? | ||
| What's a beef up? | ||
| We've all witnessed a classic beef up. | ||
| What is a beef up? | ||
| You've never been to a beef up? | ||
| I've never been to a beef up. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That's when you take a bad argument. | ||
| Is it one word or is it two words? | ||
| It's hyphenated. | ||
| It's a compound word. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You take a bad argument and then you're like, well, I was really actually right. | ||
| That's basically what you do. | ||
| Okay, that's what a beef up is? | ||
| That's a beef up. | ||
| All right, okay. | ||
| Now, I made it clear on air yesterday that Mr. Moore, who wrote the Watchmen novel, that I'm not a comic book reader, and so I just got the book Sunday, scanned through it after I'd seen the film Saturday. | ||
| The whole film was, the Illuminati, the Pyramid Corporation is... | ||
| staging terror attacks for your own good it's a wonderful thing single attack to bring in an age of love and peace and the new god man that will develop and travel the stars nope and then burma's show he was also involved in that look Really missed the point on that. | ||
| Dr. Manhattan was not a god man that developed. | ||
| Yeah, wait, does he think that... | ||
| Humanity will become Dr. Manhattan. | ||
| No, that was one character. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| On an arc. | ||
| And he was fucked up! | ||
| Yeah, he was the result of an accident. | ||
| Yeah, even the character himself was like, isn't it fucked up that this is me? | ||
| I don't want to do this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fucked up my life. | ||
| This is gross! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was just a dude. | ||
| I was gonna have sex and stuff. | ||
| My lady doesn't love me anymore. | ||
| No! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And neither can I love anyone. | ||
| No. | ||
| The Sandman thing. | ||
| So I mentioned that, and people emailed me in Groves saying, no, he's not! | ||
| Burm has to clarify, there was a collaboration between the Sandman and another novel. | ||
| That's why Alan Moore is always getting mad, because they twist his stuff. | ||
| But he did pull up... | ||
| And since then we've done research, the guy openly is a mason. | ||
| He openly says he's into the occult. | ||
| He openly says he does all this. | ||
| Regardless, you see the film, they stage terror attacks to bring in world peace. | ||
| I mean, that's the whole point we're making about The Watchmen. | ||
| Then we're going to briefly talk about Bernie Madoff. | ||
| Alright, whatever. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| The Bernie Madoff stuff is, again, the same. | ||
| Like, he's not going to prison. | ||
| So his retraction is that Neil Gaiman didn't write... | ||
| No, no. | ||
| His retraction is, like, I said he did Sandman, he didn't really, but there's some crossover, which apparently there is. | ||
| You know, like, there is, like, I don't remember what graphic novel. | ||
| Eh, I'm not worried about it. | ||
| Yeah, it's not important. | ||
| But there is, like, a spiritual connection between Alan Moore's work and Neil Gaiman's. | ||
| But there's also a spiritual connection between Alan Moore's work and Lovecraft. | ||
| There's a spiritual connection between... | ||
| I think I remember Rorschach showing up in Good Omens, the Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman novel. | ||
| This is just an interesting instance of, like, Alex misinterpreted the hell out of Watchmen, kept saying Ozymandamus, and then said that Alan Moore did Sandman. | ||
| Which he did not do. | ||
| He retracted one of these things. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The most important one. | ||
| To be fair, it was the most factually based. | ||
| It's interesting, though. | ||
| As opposed to pronunciation-based. | ||
| It's so interesting to me. | ||
| Why did you need to do that? | ||
| There's no reason to do that! | ||
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It's crazy! | |
| There's somebody who works there who made a stink about it. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Might have been Burmus. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| Burmus himself was probably like, Hey, look. | ||
| Everything was cool. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| But I'm not going to fight you on that one. | ||
| But seriously. | ||
| Sandman is maybe the greatest graphic novel ever written, and if you're not going to respect that it was Neil Gaiman, I'm going to quit. | ||
| This is a resignation-level offense, Alex! | ||
| And you'll notice, you won't notice because we're not listening to all of this sort of chat that they have, Alex doesn't say Ozymandias' name at all. | ||
| He doesn't, like, there's no indication that he's realized he was wrong, but also he doesn't say it, which means... | ||
| By the absence of it. | ||
| It's most likely he knows. | ||
| It's conspicuous in its absence, his pronunciation. | ||
| So now, that is the retraction. | ||
| Are you interested in the beef up? | ||
| I am interested in the beef up. | ||
| Now, this is a mic down. | ||
| Neil Gaiman actually wrote The Watchman! | ||
| No, this is a mic down situation because Jason Burmess is about to come in with some Alan Moore wisdom that is so crazy and goes all over the place. | ||
| You have to hear all of it. | ||
| There's nuance here. | ||
| So as a preemptive, is it a wisdom about Alan Moore, Alan Moore's wisdom, or is it wisdom with an Alan Moore flair? | ||
| It's supposed wisdom about Alan Moore. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| That actually betrays... | ||
| How little wisdom he has. | ||
| And a pretty misogynistic element of... | ||
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What? | |
| From somebody in Infowars? | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
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He did V for Vendetta, too, but he's also a practicing magician, and he actually worships a Roman snake deity named, I think it's pronounced Giklon, which he acknowledges to be a hoaxe. | |
| Real quick, I just want to stop there, because if you hear that, he's like, well, he's a practicing magician, and he worships a Roman snake god named Geiclon, but he said that's a hoax. | ||
| Like, yeah, it probably was. | ||
| It probably was a bunch of dumb bullshit. | ||
| So even in his, like, insinuation of, like, he worships this god, I mean, admittedly, he said that was all bullshit that he was making up to make people like me say dumb shit like what I just said. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Good work. | ||
| Good work, Burmas. | ||
| That's what the kids now call a self-owned. | ||
| Yes, it is! | ||
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But he says magic is synonymous with art, and his understanding is that it's the use of words, images, and actions to affect people and the way they think. | |
| Yeah, archetypal. | ||
| That's what their real religion is, is numbers, symbols to manipulate our subconscious. | ||
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Yeah, so he's into that openly. | |
| I mean, he's got, you know, a wife, a girlfriend. | ||
| Just see how the guy looks and dresses. | ||
| You can tell right away that he's into this, you know, supernatural realm. | ||
| What? | ||
| The fact that Alan Moore can get laid is evidence of the supernatural. | ||
| Beef up! | ||
| Look at how the guy dresses! | ||
| Beef up! | ||
| He believes that magic is the ability to use words to make changes in the physical world. | ||
| Magic is essentially art. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| What kind of monster would believe that? | ||
| Oh my god, that's a philosophically very interesting perspective wherein I put down my thoughts and I create something that I believe is evocative of some... | ||
| I want to express and people read it and their minds are changed. | ||
| Isn't that somehow magical? | ||
| I think that's a very interesting perspective to have on the art of just the act of creation and the act of taking in a creation. | ||
| Yeah, which is essentially the theme behind Neil Stevenson's Snow Crash, which is again... | ||
| Fantastic book. | ||
| And it's... | ||
| Highly recommend. | ||
| It's something that is not... | ||
| It's a little bogged down at the end, but don't worry about it. | ||
| That's not the most, like, high-level, like, doctoral thesis version of, like, understanding how art affects people. | ||
| But, like, their stupid shit about, like, it's archetypal. | ||
| They're just trying to manipulate us. | ||
| Like, it's... | ||
| It just... | ||
| It falls on deaf ears. | ||
| And then the part about, like, you look at how this guy looks. | ||
| He's married or has a... | ||
| Or has a girlfriend. | ||
| If he's getting fucked, you know there's magic involved. | ||
| You know there's magic involved. | ||
| It's just like, I don't know if that's a joke. | ||
| Like, I really don't. | ||
| Because they don't laugh afterwards. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I don't know if that's supposed to be a burn. | ||
| Dude, have they ever heard of Alan Parsons? | ||
| Because they have no idea what's actually in store for them when they read about that shit. | ||
| I think the next break he comes in with the Alan Parsons project. | ||
| Oh, does he? | ||
| Oh, no, not Alan Parsons. | ||
| Jack Parsons, isn't it? | ||
| Yeah, Jack Parsons. | ||
| He does know about Jack Parsons. | ||
| He's complaining about his demonicness. | ||
| How is it that I miss... | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| That's terrible. | ||
| It's very similar names. | ||
| So, Jordan, that was The Retraction and The Beef Up. | ||
| The beef up was the only way Moore gets fucked is if magic is real. | ||
| And he's a magician and he worships a snake god. | ||
| He's a practicing magician. | ||
| But it was a hoax and also magic is art. | ||
| So now we get into a portion of the show. | ||
| If I was grading that paper from like an English 101 as a freshman, I would be like, hey, you know, there's only one criminal sin and that's using, he paints a picture with words as a legitimate phrase. | ||
| The other sin is, whatever the fuck you just said, go away. | ||
| Forever. | ||
| Third is using more than five exclamation points in the course of your career. | ||
| Oh, you cannot do that! | ||
| What?! | ||
| Ugh, exclamation points. | ||
| Dirty pool. | ||
| So, Jordan, now we enter this portion of the show that is probably, I think, one of the most interesting things I've heard in a long time on Alex's show. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| He has to fill time. | ||
| He's got a couple guests coming up towards the end of the show, but he's got, like, this gap. | ||
| And so he decides to take calls. | ||
| And he gets some fucking really bad calls. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's super interesting to me that Alex handles those calls very well. | ||
| Really? | ||
| This is a hallmark of our show, is when Alex does a good job, we're not afraid to... | ||
| We gotta call it out. | ||
| We're not afraid to admit it. | ||
| He has a couple callers who are like... | ||
| The depths of how stupid his fucking audience is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he does not handle them terribly. | ||
| Now, I will admit that when he does do something good, it is evidence that magic is real. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So, this first one is a poet. | ||
| Larry in California, you're on the air worldwide. | ||
|
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Yeah, hey, Alex? | |
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Yo! | ||
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Yeah, I... | |
| Are you with me? | ||
| Yeah, I sure got you on the line right now, bro. | ||
| You're on the air! | ||
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I want to say this, man. | |
| I do not support the troops in Iraq. | ||
| In fact, I wrote a little poem. | ||
| I'm making a song out of it. | ||
| It's called, If You Are an American With a Gun in Iraq, I hope you come back in a body sack. | ||
| If you're an American with a gun in the Middle East... | ||
| I hope you get devoured by the beast. | ||
| If you're an American with a gun in Pakistan, I hope you die where you stand. | ||
| Sir, sir, listen, I happen to have family over in Iraq and Afghanistan, and they joined for reasons they believe were good. | ||
| They bought the propaganda, and it doesn't hurt the New World Order for the troops to get killed. | ||
| I really don't want to sit here hoping that I hope Iraqis don't die. | ||
| I hope the troops don't die. | ||
| I hope the troops don't die in combat with the American people. | ||
| I want to avert this. | ||
| I understand you're angry and upset. | ||
| There is over 1,300,000 Iraqis dead, many of them children. | ||
| But, you know, I don't hope people die that have had abortions. | ||
| I just hope they wake up to what they've been part of and repent. | ||
| I mean, you know what? | ||
| I appreciate your call, and you can hate me if you want, Larry, but I'm just not going to let that go any further, okay? | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| Take the abortion part out because we know what we know about Alex. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Like, everything else, that is professional handling of that call. | ||
| Now, granted, he has the ability to just hit the mute button, so, like, the guy can't keep yelling. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But that's a really good response to that guy, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's really good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think in the moment I would be able to do that well with that guy. | ||
| I would probably be like, what's the next stanza? | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Yeah, pretty crazy. | ||
| Holy shit, man. | ||
| I mean, yeah, I would like to know what the next stanza of that is. | ||
| Also, that last one was a slant rhyme. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| What is it with you and slant rhymes? | ||
| I think it's an impure version of poetry. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Impure? | ||
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It's A-A-B-B-A-A-B-B. | |
| What are you, Shakespearean? | ||
| What are you doing here? | ||
| It's not A close to A in a rhyme scheme. | ||
| It's A-A. | ||
| Jordan, this next call that Alex receives is worse. | ||
| Very much worse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But also, I gotta give Alex some props for how he handles it. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Because this could go terribly. | ||
| So would you say that hope is a thing with feathers? | ||
| Is that a poem? | ||
|
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I'm an eight-year subscriber. | |
| I've been distributing your material since 2000, beginning with America Destroyed by Design on VHS tape back then. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
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Well over 6,000. | |
| I got a big Xerox. | ||
| We've only had PrisonPlanet.tv, though, for five years, but I'd appreciate you being a subscriber. | ||
|
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No, no, I've been distributing your stuff. | |
| Oh, awesome. | ||
|
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Starting with America Destroyed by Design. | |
| Awesome. | ||
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I cry often concerning the events of 9-11 as I've lost three friends, two of whom were blown to smithereens by Controlled Demolition Incorporated. | |
| Jordan, you don't know where this is going. | ||
| I beg you to... | ||
| I know we just had a mic down clip recently. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm just writing shit down. | ||
| I'm not talking right now. | ||
| I'm just afraid you're going to yell over this and you need to experience the... | ||
| All right, all right. | ||
| I'm going to put the mic down again. | ||
| You need to experience the turn. | ||
| This is unprecedented how many mic down clips we have. | ||
| It's only two so far. | ||
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I know. | |
| It comes very fast, though. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| And you'll get whiplash. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| So he's talking about 9-11. | ||
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And I know people who've lost over a dozen loved ones that faithful day. | |
| I'd just like to air a few grievances briefly in a succinct G-rated manner. | ||
| I'm extremely peed off. | ||
| I wish you'd put up a Fred Tobin banner linked to the book, Did Six Million Really Die?, and talk about the persecution of Ernst Dundell, question the whole hoax, and see how quickly you'll get arrested when you enter Canada, England, or Germany. | ||
| Now, I notice you sometimes hang up quickly on articulate people who legitimately criticize you and then spend five or ten or more minutes in the defensive tirade. | ||
| So, real quick, in case anyone didn't pick up on what you just responded to by screaming, this guy is a Holocaust denier. | ||
| So... | ||
| And he's asking Alex to promote other Holocaust deniers. | ||
| So, two or three people he knows died in 9-11. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which, of course, reinforces his belief that the Holocaust was a hoax. | ||
| Yes, the holo-hoax. | ||
| So, all of this is to say that this guy, I mean, we're getting a nice cross-section of Alex's listeners, by the way, because this guy's been promoting Alex's shit for years. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But he's just like, why don't you come out and say that the Holocaust was a bullshit thing? | ||
| There's a weird poet, and then immediately followed by a Holocaust denier who's been a fan of his for years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, shocked! | ||
| That holohoax is not already an Alex Jones documentary, right? | ||
| Well, Alex would never touch that. | ||
| He knows better. | ||
| He's got time. | ||
| But, like, you... | ||
| I think you can appreciate what I was saying. | ||
| That turn came out of nowhere. | ||
| That was fast! | ||
| So now we get to him. | ||
| He keeps talking for a little bit. | ||
| 9-11 bad. | ||
| Holocaust, not real. | ||
| Not real. | ||
| There should be a middle. | ||
| There should be an A to B to C, not an A to F, Y, and X on fire. | ||
| So I don't think Alex's response is perfect, but it's pretty good. | ||
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Okay. | |
| You've disconnected them. | ||
| Seems you've found a lucrative career in the patriot business, making poor people run around facing their tails, offering no real solutions. | ||
| Getting on the radio every day. | ||
| Let's stop right there. | ||
| Let's stop right there. | ||
| We're moving to try to get the states to declare sovereignty. | ||
| We are moving to have the bankers arrested and had a congressman on saying it 30 minutes ago. | ||
| That was Ron Paul. | ||
| Real quick, it's not great that his first initial reaction to rebut is the idea that he doesn't offer solutions. | ||
| Because that's what he's doing here. | ||
| He's responding to the guy saying, you don't offer solutions, you're just trying to scare people. | ||
| So Alex is like, we have all these 10th Amendment resolution guys on. | ||
| Ron Paul is on talking about arresting the bankers. | ||
| And it's like, well, you should probably deal with the most pressing issue first, but I understand that you've got to spin your wheels a little bit and get your bearings. | ||
| 35 minutes is going to be technical. | ||
| We are moving to have an audit of the private Federal Reserve. | ||
| We are moving to have the American people say no to martial law. | ||
| You know, I have you on the show. | ||
| We don't screen your call. | ||
| You come on here, and you sit here, and you insult, and you attack me, and you say all these terrible things. | ||
| And you say that I'm giving no solutions. | ||
| I make a film that has cost me probably $80,000 or more to make, and I am going to release it for free on the Internet, highqualityatprisonplanet.tv, and you call in and you say I'm bad. | ||
| You call in and you say I'm evil. | ||
| You know, here's the issue. | ||
| I don't like the things Israel does, and I criticize Israel. | ||
| But I also don't want to be associated with the type of scum. | ||
| That make it their lives to simply hate Jews and everybody else. | ||
| So you understand, I don't like what Israel's doing, and I don't like you either. | ||
| It's very, very simple, and I hope you realize that. | ||
| You could have had your say, sir, but you had to spew your lies, so find another show. | ||
| I respect that. | ||
| That's not... | ||
| That's not a terrible answer. | ||
| When you have someone who's coming on your show... | ||
| I mean, it's not great that he let him get as far as to, like, actually promote these people who are Holocaust deniers that he thinks Alex should promote. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, it's not great that the call made it that far. | ||
| But on another level, because Alex has this, like, ethos of, I'm not going to screen my calls. | ||
| You guys can come in. | ||
| Like, on the last episode, he's talking about how people used to sell tractors on his show. | ||
| Like, I got a tractor in Missouri for sale. | ||
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Right. | |
| I kind of respect that in terms of letting... | ||
| And in this instance, we have such a stark contrast in 2009 and the present, when he was in that drunk hotel interview, and he refused to engage with the idea that Nazis, like, he has people who are Nazis who are really into him. | ||
| Here we have an instance where a Nazi who's really into him is calling into the show in 2009, talking about how the Holocaust isn't real, and Alex goes so far as to say... | ||
| I don't care for what Israel's doing, but you people who are anti-Semitic, I don't want to be associated with you. | ||
| I don't like Israel, and I don't like you. | ||
| That's blunt. | ||
| That's my favorite part, which is a line that I think I'm going to start using from now on. | ||
| Anytime somebody makes me mad, I'm just going to be like, listen, I don't like what Israel's doing, and I don't like you either. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| That's a solid line. | ||
| In the middle of this episode where he's lying about the Canadian military and desperately trying to sell his stupid documentary, I can't say that I don't respect that. | ||
| I do think that's a good response. | ||
| There's another way he could have answered that call, and I think he would have answered it differently now. | ||
| So, though it pains me, I'll tip my cap to Alex for that response. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Could have done way, way worse. | ||
| So now we come back to the show. | ||
| He's gotten through these calls. | ||
| Still isn't at the point when his guest is supposed to call in. | ||
| And it's kind of spinning his wheels a little bit. | ||
| So he decides to sell the Obama deception a little bit more. | ||
| Quick question. | ||
| In 20... | ||
| 18, where we are now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Does he still take calls now that he's not... | ||
| He always says he's going to take calls, and then pretty much never gets to them. | ||
| Yeah, but there are still people who can call in, though, right? | ||
| Yeah, but they almost never get through. | ||
| He'll end up saying, we're going to take calls, and then he'll start rambling about bullshit. | ||
| He'll take one call, and then I'm out of time. | ||
| So people do... | ||
| There are still calls, though. | ||
| I'm just interested to know if... | ||
| I would say that, like, in the episodes... | ||
| Because if he's, like, on terrestrial radio and podcast, it's hard to imagine that people would know exactly when he records if they weren't already... | ||
| Well, because he broadcasts live, they know when he's on air. | ||
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Right. | |
| But then he doesn't say we're going to take calls on every episode. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And many times when he says we're going to get to calls, he never does. | ||
| Does not get to calls. | ||
| So it's a crap shoot. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| It's much less a part of his show than it used to be. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's for sure. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He still pretends that it is a part of his show. | ||
| Yeah, that's a fair way to say it. | ||
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Gotcha. | |
| Okay, cool. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex gets back to selling the Obama deception. | ||
| And boy, things take a turn. | ||
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Is this where they turn? | |
| Stuart Copeland on drums. | ||
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You know, I can't talk about what's going on behind the scenes right now here. | |
| But I'll tell you this, ladies and gentlemen, they do not want the Obama decision. | ||
| I was a sailor. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| You're only alive once, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Are you? | ||
| The enemy knows the sleeping giant that is liberty and freedom is rising. | ||
| They know you have power. | ||
| That's why they're trying to block us every way they have. | ||
| So I will tell everybody right now, the Obama deception is going to drop. | ||
| It's probably dropping today. | ||
| Get ready at PrisonPlanet.tv. | ||
| I'm being forced to do this. | ||
| Because we may not have a chance if we wait. | ||
| And I'm showing my hand. | ||
| I know the enemy's listening right now. | ||
| Launch the operation. | ||
| Launch it. | ||
| Launch it at all sites. | ||
| Just go ahead and launch it. | ||
| Launch it right now. | ||
| I just made that decision. | ||
| Launch the operation right now. | ||
| We'll only have two or three versions of it up there for everybody. | ||
| I wish the public knew how real this was. | ||
| Terry Bressey, you're on the air. | ||
| What just happened? | ||
| What is going on right now? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What just happened right there? | ||
| What the fuck was that? | ||
| Alex just launched the operation. | ||
| That was crazy! | ||
| So now the Obama deception is out! | ||
| It's coming in the next 12 hours! | ||
| Actually, fuck it! | ||
| It's happening now! | ||
| He hit that big button that says, deploy the operation. | ||
| Does he have a big button? | ||
| He must. | ||
| Yeah, it's probably like Jim Cramer's crazy big button. | ||
| That would be a fun button for Alex to have. | ||
| Release the documentary button. | ||
| Bam, bam, bam. | ||
| Like 90s Conan whenever he had the Walker Texas Ranger button? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He said, we're releasing it. | ||
| I've made the decision. | ||
| Put it out on all platforms. | ||
| And then the long pauses. | ||
| Terry Bressi, you're on the air. | ||
| So I should tell you, Terry Bressey is a guy who runs a website called CheckpointUSA, and he's all about how these checkpoints around the country, whether they be for immigration checkpoints or sobriety checkpoints or whatever, you don't have to talk to those people. | ||
| You can just go and say, like, am I being detained? | ||
| And if you just keep saying it, they'll eventually let you go. | ||
| Oh, I remember those videos that people used to put up on YouTube all the time where they're like... | ||
| Am I in Fourth Amendment? | ||
| I'm a dick. | ||
| He's one of the biggest YouTube guys. | ||
| Which is not to say I'm super pro Checkpoint or whatever. | ||
| It's like, you're just being a dick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was actually even interviewed on an episode of This American Life about his actions and his behaviors. | ||
| All right, coming up next, we have a... | ||
| Terry Bressey. | ||
| We have Terry Bressey. | ||
| He is an avowed public asshole, and he has been doing it for a long time. | ||
| Terry, we're going to give you the floor. | ||
| Go ahead and talk for us. | ||
| I don't want to get too into his appearance on Alex's show because... | ||
| Like you said, I'm not super into checkpoints either. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| I think that case by case, there's a reason for them to exist and a reason why some of them might be too much. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| They're often deployed in a very racist manner. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that's not Terry's concern. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| It appears that he's a sovereign citizen, but I can't really prove it. | ||
| I can just... | ||
| Get some of the code from his words. | ||
| He keeps talking about how we're free to travel, which is a really big term in the sovereign citizen world. | ||
| And he keeps using really sovereign adjacent language about stuff. | ||
| He doesn't go so far as to say admiralty law or any of those dead to rights. | ||
| Oh, that's what you're about. | ||
| But it's pretty clear that he's kind of in that world. | ||
| So he gets done with this Terry Bressi interview, and Alex is going through some things. | ||
| He's going through some things. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Okay. | ||
| It's hard to continue on here. | ||
| On the air right now. | ||
| And... | ||
| I'm just so sick of the New World Order. | ||
| I'm sick of all their crap. | ||
| But we know who they are. | ||
| We know what they are. | ||
| We know what has to be done. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I just wish people valued how serious and how real this information is. | ||
| I know a lot of you do, but sometimes I think I don't value it, because I live it, I breathe it, I'm in this fight constantly. | ||
| And for other people, it's like some social thing, or it's like fun. | ||
| It's fun to fight and defeat evil, but it's... | ||
| It's not fun working this hard. | ||
| It's not fun looking at these horrors all day. | ||
| It's not fun knowing you're right and just seeing the evil continue and grow and just get worse and all the people it hurts. | ||
| Kind of sounds like how I feel about his present day show. | ||
| Ouch. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Is he describing a moment where he's like, Am I the bad guy here? | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| I don't think he's having that kind of introspection. | ||
| But, much like... | ||
| WCW viewer in 1998. | ||
| He is sick of the New World Order. | ||
| Ah, nicely done. | ||
| My year might be off there. | ||
| The New World Order might still have been cool in 98. I can't remember exactly. | ||
| There was a day when they weren't, and that is the day we are describing. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I mean, this is just... | ||
| Get it together, Alex. | ||
| You are not being threatened behind the scenes. | ||
| What do you think he is describing behind the scenes, though? | ||
| Maybe some trolling. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Maybe some distribution issues where his tech guy is like, we haven't finished editing it! | ||
| Or his lawyer is saying, we haven't cleared some of this stuff. | ||
| You can't put it out. | ||
| For real, you can't use that Highwaymen song. | ||
| I know you want to. | ||
| He hasn't cleared music or hasn't gotten all the signatures for the interviews or there's some claim he's making that they haven't figured out, like, is this... | ||
| You've got to get those signatures immediately after doing the interview. | ||
| I would assume that's part of it. | ||
| But he's decided that he's going to release it. | ||
| He released it on air. | ||
| It's done. | ||
| Is he waffling again? | ||
| Well, let's see. | ||
| I've got a bunch of trailers coming out for the Obama deception. | ||
| Some promos, some sneak peeks and things that were supposed to start coming out in the next two days. | ||
| For the film to have its full effect, it needs to do that. | ||
| You know, the establishment, the FBI has a lot of dirty tricks, and under their Patriot Act, where they're sneaking big things, they can tell you under federal law that... | ||
| His dad, like, don't do this yet. | ||
| You're not even supposed to tell people what's going on. | ||
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What? | |
| That's what this country has turned into, is a Soviet dirt pit. | ||
| Which I love, by the way. | ||
| They talk about the blacklist for the communists. | ||
| That's nothing compared to what patriots go through. | ||
| There are congressional hearings. | ||
| Where they show architects and engineers for 9-11 truth next to Al-Qaeda training videos and say the web has to be shut down. | ||
| They're having big Pentagon cybersecurity takeovers of the entire web and the former head of Homeland Security cybersecurity has resigned saying it's a total takeover. | ||
| They admit Northcom and the Pentagon and everything else is for the American people. | ||
| So, you know, you got this sort of we're the most repressed group. | ||
| Fuck the blacklist. | ||
| This is the Patriots. | ||
| The Patriots are the one who hit this sneak and peek. | ||
| The FBI is up in my shit. | ||
| Oh, those guys. | ||
| This is such bullshit. | ||
| Oh, with their FBI! | ||
| But you know what this is? | ||
| This is part of his... | ||
| You know how traditionally the FBI has definitely been against Patriots. | ||
| In that very clip, what you see is the truth and the falsity about his... | ||
| This sort of advertising campaign about his Obama deception. | ||
| at the beginning is exactly why he's not launching it as he just screamed on air. | ||
| It's because there's a bunch of trailers that he needs to put out in order to get public interest. | ||
| Right. | ||
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In order for the release to actually work the way he wants it to. | |
| Right. | ||
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The lie is the idea that there's enemies and the FBI with the Patriot Act and Sneak and Peek is coming in and they don't want you to put the information out that I'm about to put out. | |
| No, he sounds like a petulant child. | ||
| No, he sounds like a pro. | ||
| No, I hear... | ||
| This is pretty well done. | ||
| No, the reason that I was like, oh, it's his dad, is because... | ||
| There's very much this, like... | ||
| His dad wasn't the HR director at this point. | ||
| I meant a metaphorical dad. | ||
| Daddy. | ||
| Just like this idea of him being like, I want to drop it now! | ||
| And somebody is in his ear. | ||
| Somebody's in his ear just going like, No, we need to develop an advertising campaign, and that way I can do that. | ||
| And he's like, But I want to do it now! | ||
| Buckley has given him some, like, calm down advice. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But look, I think that that's probably true on, like, a psychological level, but I don't think for a second that Alex planned on releasing it at any point during this show. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think that is part of the anticipation game that he's playing. | ||
| And it also creates this illusion of immediacy and danger that he's really trying to develop about the movie. | ||
| Like, on this episode, this might as well be... | ||
| Entirely a sort of infomercial for the Obama deception. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There's a couple of narrative pieces and a couple of interviews that he does in the fucking Holocaust denying caller. | ||
| But along the way, most of the meat that's on the bones is him going on this arc of, should I release it? | ||
| Should I not? | ||
| Fuck it, I'm going to do it. | ||
| And then with never walking it back, coming back from break and being like, it's coming out later. | ||
| I need to put some ads out in order to make it. | ||
| He's doing this back and forth thing as a way to create the image that it's a hard decision for him. | ||
| When it's not, he just needs people to think it is, because then they'll assume that the globalists are trying to threaten him behind the scenes, which will bolster the actual release when it comes. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Does that make sense? | ||
| No, no, no, I get it. | ||
| It's so transparent, but I also think it's fucking awesome. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Well, as a marketing ploy, I think it's pretty good. | ||
| It's not terrible. | ||
| I think he tricked a lot of people. | ||
| So I think that I've made my point pretty clear, that I think this is a transparent, very see-through ad pitch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Extended ad pitch that has ups and downs, peaks and valleys of, I'm doing it now, I gotta hold back, I'm gonna do it now! | ||
| There's just this, he's trying to get the listeners excitement and make them feel like, This could happen at any time. | ||
| How exciting is this? | ||
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Right! | |
| And when I say that I think it's well done, I think at the moment it's well done. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even two weeks later, this stinks. | ||
| You know, like, two weeks later, if you went back and listened to this episode, you'd be like, oh, he was clearly fucking around. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| If you were listening live, and you already liked him, you'd be like, this is exciting. | ||
| Do we have the date when he actually does drop it? | ||
| I think he dropped it on the date he meant to the entire time. | ||
| I think that never changed. | ||
| It was still Sunday. | ||
| I believe so, yeah. | ||
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God, what an idiot. | |
| Let me actually confirm that. | ||
| All right. | ||
| While Dan goes about confirming that, I am going to go into an in-depth discussion of Final Fantasy VII and how it relates to the current situation that we're in right now. | ||
| Now. | ||
| If you recall, President Shinra, in the first disc of the game, is, of course, murdered by Sephiroth. | ||
| Whether or not Sephiroth is, at the time, however, a ghost, is never really addressed, because Sephiroth had actually died years before this event in question. | ||
| So how is it that Sephiroth can essentially force-project himself into a place where he can kill somebody with a physical katana that is roughly, what is it, like... | ||
| 12 feet long, Dan? | ||
| It's a 12 foot long katana. | ||
| You're not answering my question. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Okay, so... | ||
| We have that, and then we have President Rufus who takes over. | ||
| Now, why would the son of the current president then become president unless we were living in some sort of weird, dystopian, fucking technocratic future? | ||
| The release date is just listed as 2009 on pretty much any source I can find. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| But I'm certain it was the exact date that he intended to from the jump. | ||
| Probably that Sunday. | ||
| Yeah, most likely. | ||
| But this next clip, just... | ||
| This is so wild, because that transparency that he's clearly showing of, like, there's attacks against me, but they're kind of fucking bullshit. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's very, very obvious. | ||
| And then at the end of this clip, he says something that if I were Alex Jones, I would talk about for the next two years. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And fortune favors the bold, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Does it? | ||
| But I am sick and tired of the New World Order. | ||
| I told you that when I took on Obama, this was serious. | ||
| I was going up against their biggest, baddest gladiator. | ||
| And all of the throngs of soulless minions he's got. | ||
| And those that do have souls but are deceived. | ||
| And the threats my wife gets, the threats I get is nothing compared to the snake itself. | ||
| Snooping around and trying to shut down what we are doing here. | ||
| Not happening. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They know the Obama deception is the truth. | ||
| They know that we understand their agenda. | ||
| We know how to shatter the left-right paradigm. | ||
| We know how to beat these people. | ||
| Our information is going super total nova right now. | ||
| And I'm going to tell the enemy... | ||
| You picked the wrong side with the New World Order, and we're going to take this country back, and the tyrants and the treasonous, lecherous people will be brought to justice through courts of law. | ||
| Know that. | ||
| Just like Hitler's Germany, this tyranny will fall probably before it ever gets launched to the level that Hitler was able to carry out. | ||
| The globalists just do their killing in third world nations with our troops. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
|
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Sure? | |
| Thank you. | ||
| The Obama deception, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| You need to see it. | ||
| You need to have it. | ||
| You need to get it out to everyone. | ||
| And you need to remember the enemy is scared of it. | ||
| Remember the Tony Alamo. | ||
| That Obama has an enemies list and you can better believe I'm on it. | ||
| And most of all, everybody needs to pray for what we do here. | ||
| Pray for this ministry. | ||
| It is a ministry of truth to the people of the world. | ||
| A light. | ||
| A lighthouse in these stormy times. | ||
| If I were someone who had the mentality of Alex Jones, I would hear the end of that, and he's like... | ||
| He just called himself the Ministry of Truth. | ||
| That's from 1984. | ||
| He's clearly making an allusion to the propaganda outlet, the Ministry of Propaganda, the Ministry of Truth from 1984. | ||
| He's revealing the method. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's just like Watchmen. | ||
| No, he totally gets the reference. | ||
|
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He doesn't get to... | |
| No, he understands the reference, Dan. | ||
| He doesn't get to... | ||
| He can't allow himself to do propaganda unless he tells his audience that's what he's doing. | ||
| So when he compares himself to the Ministry of Truth... | ||
| That's externalization of the method. | ||
| Look, you can't blame him for that. | ||
| He just scanned it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's so fucking stupid because when he complains about George H.W. Bush saying New World Order when he's discussing a new confluence of world powers and stuff like that, new arrangements in the world, he just said Infowars is a ministry of truth. | ||
|
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Yeah! | |
| Come on! | ||
| Sometimes you call yourself a ministry of truth? | ||
| That's very specific language. | ||
| It's very specific. | ||
|
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If I were a shithead, I would talk about that forever. | |
| But I'm not, because I understand that he's just grasping at straws. | ||
| You've got to understand that his operation is just this process. | ||
| It's like an animal farm. | ||
| That's what you would describe his operation as, Dan. | ||
| There's no bad connotations to that. | ||
| In terms of Jason Bermas, two legs bad. | ||
| I will say that. | ||
| So, I don't... | ||
| I just... | ||
| I like that because, again, in that entire clip, you could very easily see how, like, this is... | ||
| What you're doing is just trying to sell your fucking movie. | ||
| You're doing a set piece. | ||
| You're doing a play. | ||
| A radio theater kind of thing. | ||
| Orson Welles would be so proud he would shit himself and then murder you, Alex. | ||
| But then at the end there, the calling yourself the Ministry of Truth. | ||
| I know that we're clowning on it a little bit, but he would never let anybody else get away with that. | ||
| If Obama said that... | ||
| Oh, no, yeah, yeah. | ||
| If Obama was ever like, and we're the Ministry of Truth, he'd be like, 1984, Georgia! | ||
| NPR is their own ministry for truth in the world. | ||
| Alex would talk about that for a decade. | ||
| So this is just to demonstrate how sensible we are in comparison that we can just be like... | ||
| You're fucking stupid, Dick. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then move on. | ||
| Because the answer is, he's fucking stupid. | ||
| It's not like there's any... | ||
| There's no further nefarious game other than his complete inability to understand the written word. | ||
| Yeah, it's tough. | ||
| So, at this point, we get an interview with someone who took me a fucking hour to find out who he was. | ||
|
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Uh-huh. | |
| Because his name is Chez Kane. | ||
| Chez Kane. | ||
| You know how many fucking ways there are to spell that? | ||
| That's a good fucking name. | ||
| And Chez, if you spell it with a Z, that's just the French word for house, Chez, which is also the word that is the beginning of most restaurants. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like Chez Blanc, like whatever. | ||
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Right, of course. | |
| Any other word that's often like the house of blank. | ||
| And so, I just got really self-conscious because Maison is also house. | ||
| But look, the point is... | ||
| And it's also the name of the group of people who are secretly controlling the world! | ||
| The Maisons! | ||
| Who are adorable with their aprons. | ||
| They stone Maisons! | ||
| So, Chez Kane is on the show. | ||
| And I'll just lay this out ahead of time. | ||
| He's on there because he sells an AM transmitter. | ||
| And so, Alex... | ||
| I love the low stakes. | ||
| I love the lower stakes of 2009. | ||
| I don't know which ones he's selling because what I was able to find on the Wayback Machine from his website, which is no longer on the internet, I couldn't find the actual sales pages. | ||
| So I don't know which models he was selling or how much they were. | ||
| But really good AM transmitters are going to run you in the thousands of dollars. | ||
| But you could get one for about $80 used. | ||
| Like, there is, like, a version of it that's in the, like, 100-ish range. | ||
| So the AM transmitter, if I understand, like, are we talking about, like, an actual... | ||
| My man, this is pirate radio. | ||
| That's what I was... | ||
| Just wanted to be sure there. | ||
| Now, on his website, which was Truth AM... | ||
| Wait, so on a radio show? | ||
| He's selling a pirate radio show? | ||
|
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Alright, I love it. | ||
| I'm back in! | ||
| This Alex guy, I like him! | ||
| Alex is trying to get all of his listeners to create pirate radio stations to play his show. | ||
| I love it! | ||
| Which is evidence of... | ||
| Most people aren't knocking down your door to syndicate your show. | ||
| If you are a policy wonk, I want you to start your own podcast and just play our podcast. | ||
|
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No. | |
| Absolutely not. | ||
| So it's an interesting thing because if you go to this guy's website, it was trutham.com. | ||
| It's no longer on the air, but you can find it on the Wayback Machine. | ||
| One of the things that you find is that even on his website, it's like... | ||
| You've got to get this transmitter, but you also fucking need an antenna, and you need all these cords. | ||
| It's a fucking elaborate system you still need to set up if you want to broadcast anything other than a feed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, Alex's feed you could conceivably plug in, or if you had a CD of an Alex Jones show, you could easily play it through a plug, but if you wanted to actually do your own show, it would require a bunch of other equipment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that would cost you a whole bunch more, but it's so fun that he's having them on because it is this, like, You get a glimpse into, like, alright, alright, K-Rock's not knocking down your door to put your radio show on. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| I'm gonna guess a lot of FM stations aren't interested. | ||
| A lot of AM stations are already playing Rush and Glenn Beck. | ||
| They're still playing that alternative rock, too. | ||
| Well, then the other people at the time... | ||
| When was the last time you heard the Highwaymen on FM, Dan? | ||
| But, like, if you're fucking Hannity, if you're Glenn Beck... | ||
| You don't spend a half hour of your show talking to a guy who sells AM transmitters in order for people to bootleg your show into the airwaves. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| Because you have 500 fucking stations playing your show in major markets. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex, and you know what? | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| I think it's pathetic, and it indicates that he's not doing well, but I still respect the hell out of it. | ||
| I like the hustle. | ||
| The man's on a hustle. | ||
| I think that if he was coming to the audience and he was like, look. | ||
| We're not doing great. | ||
| The globalists don't want me on stations. | ||
| I need you to buy these AM transmitters because that's the way we're going to do this. | ||
| I would respect that more than him presenting it as a toss-aside thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| If he was more honest about wanting his audience to be the radio station for him, I would be into it. | ||
| But as it is, he's kind of presenting it as like, we're so fucking successful. | ||
| You know, any time, that could all go away. | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| That's a bummer. | ||
| That's a bummer. | ||
| So, Chez, by the way, it's C-H-E-S. | ||
| It took me a very long time to figure that out. | ||
| It's C-H-E-S? | ||
| Yes, Chez. | ||
| That's not how you say Chez. | ||
| I think it is. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You could throw a Z on there, but I think Chez is... | ||
| What's the one where it's a couch, but it's also a... | ||
| A chaise lounge? | ||
| A chaise lounge. | ||
| Are you sure it's not a chaise, Cain? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I've got nothing more to say about Chez. | ||
| So, this clip is the beginning of the Chez Cain interview that he has, which again is about selling AM transmitters to his audience so that they can play Alex's show. | ||
| The way they set up this interview is telling. | ||
| So, that's why there's a little banner on InfoWars, but this is not a paid interview right now. | ||
| I have them on because I believe in it. | ||
| Do you? | ||
| Ches Kane, good to have you on with us, sir. | ||
| In the dark days of the republic, this transmitter is what people need, isn't it? | ||
|
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It sure is. | |
| Thanks for having me on, Alex. | ||
| I actually grew up across the other side of the lake from you over there in Dallas. | ||
| Ches, it's not a paid interview. | ||
| The reason that that's interesting to me is because why would you bring that up if a bunch of your other interviews aren't paid? | ||
| I'm not sure what this means. | ||
| I have no idea what to take away from it. | ||
| But the idea that he's having this guy on who's selling AM transmitters and like, this isn't a paid interview, it does lead me to believe that a lot of his interviews are paid. | ||
| In some version or some form or another. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure what that is. | ||
| But anyway, this isn't my only complaint with Chez Cain. | ||
| The other one is in this next clip. | ||
|
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That Red Beckman interview you had a while back, it got me to get his book, The Walls in Our Minds, and it tells the difference between... | |
| Politicians and statesmen, and I decided, you know, I want to be a statesman, and that's why I did this. | ||
| So the inspiration from that in your Waco video, most people probably haven't seen that one, but it does show what one man can do, and it taught me that I was involved in the neocon side. | ||
| I was going to school at DeVry when that happened, and I finally woke up to it, and I said, if they can do Waco, anything's possible. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I was actually going to Trump University at the time, and all I thought was if they can do Waco, they can do anything. | ||
| Reach for the stars. | ||
| If they can do Waco, we can do anything, I guess. | ||
| The other problem that I have there is that Red Beckman is the one who woke him up. | ||
| If you'll recall, Red Beckman was one of those weirdo tax protesters we talked about. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Who was also the one that said that the Holocaust wasn't a Holocaust. | ||
| It was a judgment. | ||
|
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You know. | |
| Because the Jews worship Satan. | ||
| Look, we've had a Holocaust denier, we've had a Holocaust apologist? | ||
| No, dude, you understand, this is what makes this so difficult. | ||
| Not even apologist, like supporter. | ||
| Alex's response to that caller who's recommending Holocaust denier people be promoted on his show, being good is jarring to some extent. | ||
| And then you get a little bit later in the show and this Chez Cain is saying... | ||
| I got woken up by your interview with Red Beckman, someone who believes that the Holocaust was deserved because Jews are of Satan. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, that's fucking hard. | ||
| How dare you deny the Holocaust? | ||
| It was one of our greatest achievements. | ||
| That's fucking hard to wrestle with. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know what to do with that. | ||
| I think it's essentially the... | ||
| Because one of Alex's, like, content people, Red Beckman, because he's, you know, he loves that he's anti-tax and what have you. | ||
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Sure. | |
| He doesn't deal with the fact that, oh, no, he's also a Holocaust denier. | ||
| Cool, let's just pretend that's not there. | ||
| And then this guy reads some of his books and gets woken up. | ||
| Do you think that's not in some of those other books? | ||
| Wait, so, no, Red Backman wasn't a denier. | ||
| He was a supporter. | ||
| Oh, that's fair, yeah. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| It makes more sense for him to be against the guy who's a Holocaust denier and love the guy who's a Holocaust supporter. | ||
| He's a Pez dispenser at the end of the day. | ||
| But even in that, like, when that guy was saying the Holocaust denial stuff, Alex's response was very clearly, I don't want to be lumped in with dicks like you. | ||
| I'm against Israel, but I hate people who hate Jews. | ||
| So even his response should be like, hey man, what about Red Beckman? | ||
| Now that this is coming back up, you start to see this difference in how he treats different, like... | ||
| Who is too toxic? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Red Beckman is somehow, like, plausibly, like, ah, he's really just against the 16th Amendment. | ||
| He's concerned about the legality of taxes. | ||
|
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Eh. | |
| Maybe he's quirky? | ||
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Maybe he's quirky about the Jews or something like that. | |
| Alex can, like, he can sort of hide behind that. | ||
| Was that why Ceausescu got that? | ||
| Is it because he was quirky? | ||
| Quirky as hell. | ||
| Look, look. | ||
| He's still a sir. | ||
| I mean, he's a bit quirky. | ||
| No, that was an old. | ||
| That was an old. | ||
| For a number of years, he was a sir. | ||
| No, he wasn't, because he wasn't a citizen. | ||
| He was a KBE. | ||
| He was a KBE. | ||
| But he had some quirks. | ||
| It's very difficult to wrestle with this distinction that Alex refuses to make. | ||
| And this is, I think, part of why, in present day, he refuses to engage at all. | ||
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Right. | |
| I think you see the kernels of it here, but it's discreet. | ||
| It's discreet. | ||
| Like, this bringing up of Red Beckman never gets into the fact that he is super into the Holocaust. | ||
| Which seems like a thing you shouldn't even be allowed to say. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's just, this 2009 is wild stuff. | ||
| It's just, it's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex sells the Obama deception some more. | ||
| Shocking. | ||
|
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Uh-huh. | |
| We are back live, ladies and gentlemen, in defense of the republic you have found at the tip of the spear in the Infowar. | ||
| We're here Monday through Friday from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. by the grace of God. | ||
| We have told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but that truth. | ||
| Except for all the lies. | ||
| The Obama deception. | ||
| I am very, very tempted to go ahead and release it and not wait until Sunday because time is short. | ||
| I thought you already released it, Dwight! | ||
| The dirty curse is going on against us, our legion. | ||
| And that tells me that we are very close to victory. | ||
| I smell victory. | ||
| So close to victory. | ||
| Just release the fucking thing, then. | ||
| If that's all it takes for you to get victory, then do it. | ||
| Just do it. | ||
| But he's not going to do it. | ||
| It is. | ||
| He already said it earlier. | ||
| We need to have these ads come out in order to get interest bubbling up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's all he's doing here. | ||
| It is an intensely self-contradictory idea to say that releasing this will be the death blow to the New World Order. | ||
| And yet at the same time, to hold on to it for buzz. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, that's transparently... | ||
| It gives up the game a little bit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It lets you know that, like, oh, the buzz is really more what you... | ||
| Yeah, that's impossible to reconcile. | ||
| The part about it being dangerous to the New World Order, it might be a part of the buzz. | ||
| Far secondary to the buzz part of it. | ||
| Or might be a part of the buzz. | ||
| It might be an essential piece of what you know you need to sell this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, now, Jordan, this is my favorite thing in the world. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We've heard Alex sing. | ||
| A lot on this show. | ||
| Do karaoke. | ||
| I don't know how much we've heard him sing. | ||
| We've heard him sing talk. | ||
| We haven't really heard his range. | ||
| He has perfect pitch. | ||
| Is he a bass? | ||
| Is he a tenor? | ||
| I don't even really know. | ||
| His perfect pitch. | ||
| A little higher than you'd expect. | ||
| Always on point. | ||
| Now, we've heard him sing along with songs. | ||
| Talk, sing, if you prefer. | ||
| Only a couple times have we heard him rap. | ||
| Oh, God, no. | ||
| We've heard him... | ||
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No! | |
| There was that... | ||
| End this episode! | ||
| Hey, guys, we have a website. | ||
| This is me walking out! | ||
| So we've heard him do the move, bitch, get out the way, the ludicrous song. | ||
| Oh, shit, I remember how great that was. | ||
| Now here is... | ||
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Remember when somebody put that together in a nice little remix for us? | |
| That was kind of... | ||
| Now here is Alex spitting what I would call the hottest 16 bars on the street. | ||
| I got a message to the government. | ||
| Like every day. | ||
| They're telling me about Osama over there. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Dan, no. | ||
| I really can't do this. | ||
| God, we've got criminals in control. | ||
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Hot 16 bars. | |
| Just him saying summer instead of summer infuriates me somehow. | ||
| Calm down. | ||
| I got a message to the government. | ||
| Like every day. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I hate you so much. | ||
| I hate you so much for that. | ||
| I hate you so much for that. | ||
| He's so terrible. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| Like, that song that he's, like, it is the same thing as The Highwayman, where he's, like, just saying things that are about to be said by the actual musician, and is kind of, like, slightly off. | ||
| That's close to, like, some of the lines from that song. | ||
| And yet, somehow, it's so much more racist. | ||
| God, it's terrible. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| So now Alex gets back to content. | ||
| He wants to talk a little bit about. | ||
| More news, perhaps. | ||
| And he drops this in. | ||
| I'll say at this point, he's talking to Webster Tarpley, who has come in for an interview. | ||
| He's a weirdo anti-Democrat guy. | ||
| But who cares? | ||
| His interview isn't that great. | ||
| He mostly wants to talk about how there are Obamavilles popping up. | ||
| Obamavilles? | ||
| Like Hoovervilles. | ||
| Right, except for... | ||
| Tent cities of homeless people? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But these aren't like back then. | ||
| These are good families who are being put into tent cities. | ||
| And... | ||
| Wait, no, then it's exactly like back then. | ||
| Sure, but then also Obama's been in office for nigh on a month at this point. | ||
| Yeah, Obamavilles. | ||
| Yeah, let's go ahead and do that dance. | ||
| You remember how Hoovervilles popped up immediately when Hoover became president? | ||
| He definitely didn't exacerbate a situation that was already demolished. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Webster Tarpley doesn't want to talk about that. | ||
| But I also think that Webster actually has some pretty good points. | ||
| So I don't want to clown on him too much. | ||
| But he's here, and Alex makes a terrible point. | ||
| Wait, so his name is Webster Tarpley? | ||
| Webster Tarpley. | ||
| Are you sure he's not a character in a children's detective novel? | ||
| I'm positive about that. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| He has a show on the Genesis Communications Network. | ||
| Okay, well that makes sense. | ||
| It's good to see Obama's approval rating dropping between 15 and 20 points. | ||
| His first couple hundred days trying to ram everything through. | ||
| Looks like things are going well. | ||
| We're still in dire situation. | ||
| Wait, couple hundred days? | ||
| We're still in March, right? | ||
| Yeah, March 10th. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was easy. | ||
| Maybe a couple hundred days since the election, but not since inauguration. | ||
| Do you remember the date that a guy becomes president? | ||
| January 20th. | ||
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Yeah, somehow I feel like that's less than a couple hundred days. | |
| It's a month and two weeks, maybe? | ||
| A month and a week? | ||
| So Alex says that Obama's approval ratings are down 15 to 20 points. | ||
| 15 to 20 points. | ||
| But that's in no way true. | ||
| According to Gallup, because they keep track of all this, you can find all of it if you just Google it, this is only true if you only factor in Republicans. | ||
| 41% of Republicans approved of Obama on Inauguration Day, as opposed to 26% on March 10, 2009. | ||
| So that's a drop of 15% among Republicans. | ||
| So 41% of Republicans. | ||
| Of those 41%, 15% were hiding the fact that they don't like that it's a black president for that day so that they will feel better about themselves for not being racist, for not voting for Obama. | ||
| I mean, who knows what the reason is? | ||
| But yeah, 15% of Republicans dropped since Inauguration Day. | ||
| How is his overall approval rating down? | ||
| Well, it's not really all that important because Alex also isn't talking about the time frame of this drop. | ||
| He's imagining it being like... | ||
| He says Obama's numbers are down 15 to 20%. | ||
| 20% is impossible. | ||
| It's 15 if you look at it. | ||
| He's just embellishing that part. | ||
| You wouldn't think that the time frame he's talking about is since Inauguration Day unless he explicitly said that. | ||
| But that is the only metric that actually matches that 15%. | ||
| It comes from Inauguration Day to March 10th. | ||
| Or I think it's March 9th or something like that. | ||
| It's right in there. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But then you have to look at approval ratings among Democrats. | ||
| It went from Inauguration Day was 88% and it was 91% on March 10th among Democrats. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Among independents, which is a gross lower number of people, it went down 3%. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So all of it, no matter what, if Democrats stayed the same, Republicans went down 15%, and independents went down 3%, you'd only have a drop of, in the gross, probably 6% or something like that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| But look, this really... | ||
| Is important to me because I think that this feels a lot like how Trump, in his rambling press conference the other day... | ||
| Dude, I don't even want to... | ||
| He repeatedly said that he got 52% of the female vote in the 2016 election, but that figure is just the percentage of white women that he got that voted for him. | ||
| How did women of non-white persuasion... | ||
| It was less. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| I don't think that this warped use of statistics is accidental. | ||
| People like Alex and Donald Trump do not think that they're misrepresenting anything. | ||
| They just don't consider that people unlike themselves count. | ||
| So when Trump says that he got 52% of the female vote, he's using the statistic of white women because that's all he cares about. | ||
| And when Alex says that Obama's numbers went down 15%, He's pretending it's among everybody, but it's among Republicans. | ||
| Because he just thinks that the only people that matter are people on the right. | ||
| He doesn't even think the rest of the world is relevant to the conversation of statistics. | ||
| Consciously or unconsciously, that is definitely true. | ||
| It's hard to say which, but yeah. | ||
| No, exactly. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You make an absolutely perfect point. | ||
| Regardless of whether or not they're thinking about it that way, that's exactly what they're thinking. | ||
| Whether it's conscious or not, it's a fucking huge problem. | ||
| Jordan, in this next clip, one of the big things that we've been trying to look into with this investigation is primarily Alex Jones' journey towards Soros being a demon. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| And so far the only thing that we've found is Alex doesn't know who Soros is for a very long time. | ||
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Uh-uh. | |
| Then he's brought up by Bob Chapman. | ||
|
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Uh-huh. | |
| And then there's a clip from Davos where he's talking about the ramifications of the price of oil going down. | ||
| And Alex believes this for no reason. | ||
| Right. | ||
| To be evidence that George Soros is admitting that he tanked oil in order to attack Russia. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Venezuela. | ||
| When in actuality, that was the Daleks. | ||
| But also, that wasn't anything that he said in that clip. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We've been over that. | ||
| So now, Alex brings that back up with Webster Tarpley. | ||
| Not going to get over his name being Webster Tarplin. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| That's a ridiculous name. | ||
| But he brings this back up, and it leads me to believe, based on the fact that we've been listening to these episodes, the only thing Alex has ever said, really, about Soros is in reference to this clip. | ||
| And, again, he brings Soros up, but it's only about this clip. | ||
| Well, expanding on that, George Soros at the Davis Forum three weeks ago, you may have seen the video, admits they're lowering oil prices as a weapon against Russia, Venezuela, the Middle East to accelerate the world depression. | ||
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Yes, I'm sure that he would say that. | |
| He doesn't say that. | ||
| That's not in that clip. | ||
| This is, I don't want to go Goebbels on your ass, but this is the big lie. | ||
| This is the strategy of the big lie. | ||
| He's played the clip on the show before, and we've heard it. | ||
| We understand what is being said. | ||
| Soros is not in any way saying that we did this. | ||
| We lowered the price of oil. | ||
| He's only saying, here are the effects, some of which are advantageous, about the fact that the price of oil has lowered. | ||
| Alex constantly repeating, Soros admits that he lowered the price of gas in order to attack Russia. | ||
| Venezuela and these other countries. | ||
| That is the strategy of the big lie. | ||
| Because eventually he's not going to play that clip anymore. | ||
| He didn't play the clip on this show. | ||
| He hasn't played it since the last time we listened to it. | ||
| He's going to let that be the interpretation of the clip. | ||
| And I think he's going to build on that later. | ||
| In the same way that he does in 2018 with he's a Nazi collaborator. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's his big lie in the present. | ||
| This is a small big lie. | ||
| If you repeat it long enough and loud enough, people believe it's true. | ||
| And confidently enough. | ||
| Webster Tarpley, I believe, has no idea what Alex is talking about. | ||
| He says, I believe he would say that. | ||
| He's just going along with it based on Alex's confidence. | ||
| Alex's confidence wins the day of letting Webster Tarpley be... | ||
| All Webster Tarpley knows about is words and protecting yourself against rain. | ||
| That's all he knows. | ||
| And spider. | ||
| Leadership. | ||
| Spider leadership? | ||
| Webster. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| How do you feel about that? | ||
| Do you want to give yourself a minus one for that one? | ||
| No, I feel fine. | ||
| You feel fine? | ||
| I feel like it's like a push. | ||
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All right. | |
| We'll call it a push, then. | ||
| Dealer got blacked out. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| No one wins. | ||
| No one wins. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So we've got a couple clips left here. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Would you believe that in this next clip... | ||
| Alex is going to try and sell his documentary. | ||
| What? | ||
| I will tell everybody out there listening that we may launch the Obama Deception early today or tomorrow. | ||
| Because it's too vital to wait at prisonplanet.tv. | ||
| He just keeps changing. | ||
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The goalposts are fluid. | |
| I mean, we're over this. | ||
| We've talked about this a fucking hundred times on this episode already, but he keeps changing it. | ||
| He's saying immediately we're releasing it. | ||
| Now we gotta get our heads out. | ||
| Maybe Friday. | ||
| Maybe Sunday. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| So when is he gonna release it, though? | ||
| Fuck, 2009, man. | ||
| Like, does he know? | ||
| Yes, he does. | ||
| He knows this entire time. | ||
| He knows this entire time. | ||
| I believe that to be the case. | ||
| Man, I don't know. | ||
| Especially during this time period, there's a part of me that is willing to be convinced by his absolute commitment to the lie. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, I understand where you're coming from. | ||
| Especially with this kind of situation, is that... | ||
| There's no transparent bullshit because it does kind of seem like there's an actual internal struggle going on between him and, like, this, like, good and evil, like, I want to release it now, but at the same time, I want to make the most money I can, so I'll release it later and I'll sell it like this. | ||
| But I'm a good person! | ||
| And being a good person means taking down the New World Order as soon as I can! | ||
| You know, like that kind of thing. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| That's a sort of angle I hadn't really considered. | ||
| Mostly because... | ||
| It's probably bullshit. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And he wouldn't make the movie if he had some sort of good angel on his shoulder. | ||
| Right! | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| Of course! | ||
| Of course! | ||
| Like, it's only the possibility of two demons on his shoulders. | ||
| One of them is like, wait. | ||
| And the other one's like, do it now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The self-sabotaging demon versus the self-interested demon. | ||
| The two voices of, like, you have principles, I want money. | ||
| Those two voices are... | ||
| That dichotomy is ludicrous to me. | ||
| That's not possible. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| But one of them could be, like, you make money more by waiting. | ||
| You make more money by jumping on people. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| Those two voices. | ||
| If he's at odds with those two... | ||
| Strategies. | ||
| I believe that. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
|
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Right, right, right. | |
| That's possible. | ||
| So we've got the Goldman Sachs demon on his arm, and then we've got the Morgan... | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's ten cents now, but one day it'll be a thousand dollars. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| I mean, who knows? | ||
| So you like to make fun of Webster Tarpley's name, and I understand why. | ||
| I can't imagine how you... | ||
| What? | ||
| Why would I want to make fun of that name? | ||
| Webster. | ||
| Funny name. | ||
| Tarpley. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Tarpley? | ||
| What are you? | ||
| Someone who helps tents stay dry? | ||
| Tarpley. | ||
| No, he's somebody who carries the characteristics of a tarp. | ||
| He is a very tarpley, yeah. | ||
| So, I think that most of his interview is pretty terrible. | ||
| Like, this Obamaville shit is whack as hell. | ||
| But, towards the end of this, they're talking about the financial crisis that is upon America. | ||
| And Webster has two things that he says that are anathema to Alex's worldview. | ||
| Alex does not push back on either of them. | ||
| And I kind of agree with Webster Tarpley. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| A lot of people are looking at apocalyptic scenarios, right, that it's going to come to some kind of civil strife. | ||
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I don't think we're there yet. | |
| I think it's time to try politics. | ||
| Well, we see the globalists are hyping that. | ||
|
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You've got to have your own program to get out of the Depression. | |
| I have one, right? | ||
| Wipe out derivatives, seize the Fed, issue zero credit for production, have emergency federal relief, and set up a new world monetary system. | ||
| Four points, you get out of the Depression. | ||
| That's the big prize. | ||
| He said at the end of that, set up a new world monetary system. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How can Alex let someone say that on his fucking show? | ||
| Well, I mean, the new world monetary system is gold. | ||
| Well, no, it's not. | ||
| Based on even what he's saying. | ||
| He's talking about government regulation. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| I mean, that's the way to get out of a depression. | ||
| Now, you bust the Fed and all that, sure. | ||
| But who does that? | ||
| Federal government. | ||
| Hey, the Fed gets busted by the Patriots, Dan! | ||
| So then you have the federal government come in and bring in all this zero-interest money that's got to come from somewhere. | ||
| Don't want to talk about that. | ||
| Push towards the people. | ||
| Which is fine. | ||
| I mean, we could talk about that, but Alex would fucking hate that. | ||
| And then the idea that he's saying at the end, a new world financial order. | ||
| Or financial system. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Monetary system. | ||
| Monetary system. | ||
| Webster Tarpley just seems to be saying things that Alex should not agree with. | ||
| But because he respects him and he's already built him up as a credible source, he can't push back on him legit saying new world monetary system on his fucking show. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And it gets worse. | ||
| Listen to this next clip that Webster has to put in your ears. | ||
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Well, you don't get out of the Depression unless you make these changes. | |
| There is no automatic exit from the Depression. | ||
| There is no business cycle that's going to lift you out of the Depression. | ||
| And I'm also afraid there is no free market solution to the Depression. | ||
| If you call for the free market under these circumstances, basically... | ||
| Making everything much worse. | ||
| You know, think of food stamps, right? | ||
| There are three million people in Texas who are living thanks to food stamps. | ||
| And if you say free market, take that away. | ||
| They all work for Amazon, by the way. | ||
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That's going to be the end of a lot of them. | |
| So I think that the question is, how long will it take for people to throw off the chains of ideology and all the illusions and all the clap-trap of the past 40 years? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Webster Tarpley. | ||
| Against all odds. | ||
| Make it good points! | ||
| A man named Webster Tarpley should not be allowed to dunk a basketball. | ||
| I don't know enough. | ||
| That's a man who played basketball in the 20s. | ||
| I've heard a number of appearances by Tarpley on Alex's show, and most of the time it's just sort of been like, I don't believe your sources. | ||
| I don't care about what you're talking about. | ||
| This is like a less interesting Larry Nichols or something like that. | ||
| And so to have this instance where it's like, the idea that he has someone on who's an expert of sorts, who's saying, first of all, new world monetary system, and then advocating for social benefit. | ||
| I.E. government intervention. | ||
| And saying that there is no free market solution to the financial crisis that we find ourselves in. | ||
| I.E. a stimulus package. | ||
| And saying earlier that you need regulation. | ||
| The idea that you've got to get rid of these derivatives, you've got to figure out how the market can operate. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's advocating for bigger government. | ||
| Monetary system globally. | ||
| And government handouts. | ||
| Here's what's the most amazing. | ||
| A social safety net. | ||
| What's most amazing to me. | ||
| Alex doesn't fight back at all. | ||
| Is that what Webster Tarpley just... | ||
| God, I can't believe I'm saying that name in a serious way. | ||
| Rolled off your tongue. | ||
| What he is advocating for is something that is far to the left of what... | ||
| The actual stimulus package fucking did. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was far to the left of the fucking bailout. | ||
| What he is saying is literally we need to keep... | ||
| The banks from being allowed to operate the way that they are, as opposed to giving them a giant fucking bailout so that they can continue operating the way they always have been. | ||
| That is far to the left of the liberal president we ostensibly, or I apologize, tyrannical overlord we ostensibly elected in 2008. | ||
| An asshole on Alex Jones' show! | ||
| Fucking nailed it! | ||
| So, Jordan, we got one. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We got one more clip left, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan, I'm going to play you this last clip. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Dan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| When was the last time you went to court, Dan? | ||
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God damn it. | |
| We're back to the beginning. | ||
| Am I in a time paradigm? | ||
| I think we might be. | ||
| So, we got one more last clip. | ||
| That's what happens when you get a guy named Webster Tarpley on our show. | ||
| It's almost like we said it three times in years. | ||
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He has bewitched us. | |
| So, we have one more clip, and what do you know? | ||
| It's kind of selling the Obama Deception. | ||
| You're the worst. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| You're the worst, Dan. | ||
| If I'm able to in the future, I'll tell you the type of dirty tricks that are going on. | ||
| I can't get into that right now on air, but know this, the Obama Deception will go out. | ||
| Now! | ||
| God's will come hell or high water, as they say. | ||
| Later! | ||
| It could be out today, it could be out tomorrow. | ||
| Might be out today! | ||
| I'm going to have a lot of wait until Sunday, because I really want to put out some more of the trailers and build. | ||
| The excitement, because that's what will have a bigger effect. | ||
| The rapture's coming too, Dan! | ||
| But that's it. | ||
| That last 30 seconds is like, it just articulates exactly. | ||
| It's coming, hell or high water, it's coming eventually. | ||
| Maybe it'll be soon, but also I fucking want to get those trailers out, because that's going to make the release even. | ||
| Dan, we see through a glass darkly. | ||
| Could come at any moment. | ||
| Man, this episode is... | ||
| Looking through my notes, it's literally like chicanery's going on. | ||
| The Obama deception is going to be out. | ||
| The Obama deception is going to be out. | ||
| It is out. | ||
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It's going to be out. | |
| It is out. | ||
| It's not out. | ||
| It was out, but now it's out. | ||
| Canada is going to control you. | ||
| The Queen runs everything. | ||
| Fred Tobin, Holocaust denier or Holocaust supporter? | ||
| Red Beckman. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Tyrants. | ||
| Treason. | ||
| Obama's enemies list? | ||
| Oh, actually, I was wondering, who is on Obama's enemies list? | ||
| Do you actually not know about that? | ||
| We talked about that on our live show in Chicago. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Andrew Breitbart was on there. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I wasn't talking about Obama's enemies list as Alex sees it. | ||
| Obama probably has an enemies list, right? | ||
| I would assume everybody has an enemies list. | ||
| I don't have an enemies list. | ||
| I don't either, but it's in my head. | ||
| I only have one enemy that is on a list, and I don't know if I want to say his name. | ||
| His name is Dan Brennan. | ||
| I know Dan Brennan. | ||
| I know. | ||
| He has some great impressions. | ||
| No, he does not! | ||
| No, he does not! | ||
| How dare you! | ||
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That's as good a point as I need to end this episode. | |
| His wife makes him do Family Guy impressions. | ||
| No, it is not his wife! | ||
| It is him! | ||
| He sells his wife out on stage. | ||
| I know, it's brutal. | ||
| So terrible. | ||
| It's brutal. | ||
| Anyway, guys, we have a website. | ||
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| Please check it out. | ||
| You can follow us on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Please don't check out DanBrennan.com. | ||
| Probably doesn't even have his own name as a website. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| We're on Twitter. | ||
| You already mentioned that. | ||
| We're on Facebook. | ||
| We are. | ||
| There's a group. | ||
| Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant. | ||
| Which is a delightful time. | ||
| If you guys would like to follow us on iTunes, please subscribe. | ||
| Do the whole thing. | ||
| Review all that stuff. | ||
| We keep seeing growth. | ||
| And it's super cool. | ||
| And we love everybody. | ||
| And I don't know how to be grateful without sounding shitty. | ||
| I don't know how to do it. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Here's the principle, I think. | ||
| Are you going to quote a poet? | ||
| I'm going to quote a poet who used to do open mics here in Chicago. | ||
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I don't know if he still does. | |
| A guy named Arslan. | ||
| Do you know Arslan? | ||
| Oh, I know Arslan! | ||
| Here's what I say about our podcast. | ||
| He's on my enemies list! | ||
|
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No! | |
| No, of course not. | ||
| Arslan, crazy. | ||
| I agree with that completely. | ||
| But also, he had a thing that he always said on stage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And when he was too drunk to communicate, and you'd just be talking to him, you'd be like, if you get it, you get it. | ||
| If you don't get it, forget it. | ||
| And that's what I would say is our principle with our podcast. | ||
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Is it? | |
| If you get it, you get it. | ||
| If you don't get it, forget it. | ||
| Shout out, Arslan. | ||
| Here's what's great about Arslan. | ||
| What? | ||
| He probably didn't kill a guy. | ||
| That's probably true. | ||
| But Alex Jones probably did. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |