Today, Dan and Jordan convene an emergency episode of the podcast to discuss the fake bans that Alex Jones has been dealt by social media sites in the last few days. The gents discuss how the meaningless actions further Alex's interests, and how Facebook and Youtube have completely sabotaged their own ability to ever deal with Alex appropriately. Also, they talk about a horrible, monsterous preacher who comes on the show.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Dan, for a particular listener of ours. | ||
| Shout-out to Mike. | ||
| Who made the recommendation after hearing that we had been... | ||
| Novelty-ing less and Lagunitas-ing more. | ||
| Drinking a lot of Lagunitas. | ||
| Drinking a lot of Lagunitas. | ||
| We are now drinking Cherry Jane Sour Ale, brewed with Turkish Delight Cherries. | ||
| The Turkish Delight Cherries is what really worries me as someone who, I grew up, when I was growing up, a big fan of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. | ||
| The entire series, I loved it. | ||
| Turkish Delight is terrifying if that's what you grow up with. | ||
| Well, no, see, I loved the book so much because, you know, my parents were, they loved the Christian allegory. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| You know, they were super into that. | ||
| Yeah, this is better than... | ||
| Actually, no, they like Lord of the Rings, too. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| It wasn't like a one or the other thing. | ||
| But they were super into me loving C.S. Lewis. | ||
| And so I was deep into it, and they kept talking. | ||
| I always had this idea that Turkish delight is what gets Edward to flip and go with the Ice Queen. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| That's what I'm saying! | ||
| Turkish delight is so evil! | ||
| It must be amazing. | ||
| And so I had... | ||
| My mom was like, I'll make you some. | ||
| She can make it. | ||
| It's not hard to make Turkish delight. | ||
| And so she made it, and I'm like... | ||
| This is disgusting. | ||
| What is Turkish Delight? | ||
| As I recall, it's sort of like a gelatin. | ||
| It's like a little bit of a gelatin with a powdered sugar top on it. | ||
| It's like a little treat. | ||
| It's very sweet. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| It's sweet as shit, but I did not find the flavors that great, and it's traumatized me to this day. | ||
| Legitimately, same situation, except I've never actually eaten Turkish Delight. | ||
| Whenever I found out that Edward... | ||
| Was willing to sacrifice his entire fucking family as well as Aslan, the fucking embodiment of God on this earth. | ||
| And don't forget about Tumnus. | ||
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Well, Tumnus can go fuck himself, but that's a whole different story. | |
| That's a whole different story. | ||
| But he was willing to give it all up for some fucking Turkish delight. | ||
| Nah, fuck off, man. | ||
| Really shows the deprivation. | ||
| The Pevensies were living in beforehand. | ||
| They didn't have a great childhood. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| So, anyway, that's plagued me to this day. | ||
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You know what? | |
| I'll cop to it. | ||
| The version my mom made might have been terrible. | ||
| That's entirely possible. | ||
| But I found it to be really underwhelming, and so I'm not excited to... | ||
| I think now is the time for you to take a sip, Dan. | ||
| All right, here we go. | ||
| Furthermore, let me ask you a question. | ||
| As far as C.S. Lewis goes, did you ever get into the other trilogy, the one about space? | ||
| Like, he had a whole different Adam and Eve allegory on Venus. | ||
| I did not read that. | ||
| I read a lot of his other ones about, like... | ||
| Like a lot of those weird Christian apology books. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He had a ton of those. | ||
| Like Mirror Christianity. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| A lot of those other ones that I thought I was really smart when I was like 14 reading those and talking to like the college K-Life leaders. | ||
| Oh, you're reading this? | ||
| Oh, isn't that cool? | ||
| Oh, Dan, you're a little smart boy. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Alright, you were being groomed, first off. | ||
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No, definitely. | |
| No, 100%. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| And I was acting like Alex does. | ||
| You know, like, pretending that I fully understood what C.S. Lewis was talking about. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| The only thing I really even remember understanding, I was super thrilled that I understood it. | ||
| Must have been like 13, 14 or so reading it. | ||
| He was talking about the idea that when you see a waterfall or something like that and you call it sublime, it's because it's responding to something within yourself and that's what you're recognizing. | ||
| And maybe it's because I'm not in a great mood, but this beer sucks. | ||
| Maybe it's the same as looking at a waterfall. | ||
| It is Sublime. | ||
| The opposite of Sublime. | ||
| It's not terrible. | ||
| It's not terrible, but this is not my style of beer. | ||
| It actually tastes like the band Sublime. | ||
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No. | |
| It's not necessarily Sublime. | ||
| That's for Loco. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Let me try this. | ||
| It's not terrible. | ||
| Like I'm saying, it's just not my steez. | ||
| I'll drink it. | ||
| I understand why someone would like it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There is a lot of cherry. | ||
| It's not so much Turkish delight. | ||
| I'm not getting Turkish delight. | ||
| It's like whenever you get a Coke and you're like, I would like a cherry Coke. | ||
| And they're like, we don't have cherry Coke, but we'll put a cherry and some cherry shit in the Coke. | ||
| And then you also put in some alcohol. | ||
| Like, that's what it is. | ||
| The second sip was better. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Look, it'll be good because it'll... | ||
| The second sip is always better. | ||
| I'm not going to chug these, so that'll be... | ||
| That's positive. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| Yeah, we'll be sober for most of this podcast. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So today, Jordan, we're doing an emergency episode. | ||
| That's why you have something in your feed here on a Saturday. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| And the reason for that is there's a lot of chaos in Alex Jones' world and InfoWars land. | ||
| And this is a rare instance where you... | ||
| Do know what we're talking about. | ||
| Yeah, I couldn't avoid it. | ||
| It's really hard to have avoided it. | ||
| It's in most news sources. | ||
| They're running articles about this. | ||
| Everybody's kind of missing the point a little bit. | ||
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What? | |
| I don't think we've ever said that about the mainstream media covering this before. | ||
| I'll say that I did run into a couple articles. | ||
| Not mainstream media, like people who watch it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There's a couple articles that I ran into on Slate and Gizmodo, I believe, were the two that stood out to me, that were like, this is bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They were making the right argument, and that is that this is, to quote the great singer JoJo, too little, too late, in terms of any kind of punitive measure against Alex Jones. | ||
| For those listening who don't know, which, because Jordan knows, I can't imagine anyone not knowing, but at the end of this week, this last week, on Thursday and Friday, Alex suffered a couple of... | ||
| Meaningless blows. | ||
| He had, on Thursday, he had some videos taken down from YouTube, and he had his streaming banned on YouTube on his channel for 90 days. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| And I saw that as like, bleh, who cares? | ||
| This is like, it doesn't matter. | ||
| He had four videos taken down, he can still post anything he wants. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the streaming stuff doesn't really matter. | ||
| He gets like 4,000 viewers on a stream, right? | ||
| If that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's even, that's high. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then, on, so I just sort of dismissed it and like, we don't. | ||
| I don't need to cover this. | ||
| Although I did listen to Thursday, just in case there was a blow-up. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And he was acting a little silly, but I think it was because he realized that, like, I'm gonna get so much money from this. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| This is gonna be so great. | ||
| I got a narrative. | ||
| Now, we're fighting against it. | ||
| They're trying to shut me down. | ||
| If you don't give me money now, they're gonna do the job for good! | ||
| What these people are doing is more or less baiting his hook for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, for people... | ||
| That's wrong, because... | ||
| It's only going to work for people who are already in with Infowars, but all it is is tightening the grasp that he has on people who have already bought his bullshit. | ||
| Now, to some extent, I go back and forth on this. | ||
| Whether or not that matters. | ||
| If those people are in, you're not going to get them out no matter what you do. | ||
| So I don't know if that's necessarily a negative. | ||
| I don't know if you should allow that to color your judgment if you're one of these Facebook, YouTube, Twitter places. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But I do know that doing what they are doing is stupid. | ||
| So on Thursday... | ||
| Yeah, it's an alley-oop to his financial dealings. | ||
| More or less, yeah. | ||
| So that was Thursday, and I was like, eh, we don't need to cover that. | ||
| And I was in a bad mood on Thursday, so I couldn't do an episode. | ||
| And then we're recording this on Friday. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And today, or maybe even last night, Facebook decided they were going to get in the mix. | ||
| Everybody's having a good time. | ||
| I believe, my convictions tell me, that it's because they're cowards. | ||
| What? | ||
| YouTube made a move, and then they're like, well, this gives us cover to do something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But also, we don't want to do too much. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So everyone's reporting it as, like, Alex Jones kicked off Facebook for a month, and no, it was his personal account that got banned. | ||
| Like, right before we started recording, I went on the Infowars, still has a blue checkmark on Facebook. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So does the Alex Jones. | ||
| Public figure account. | ||
| That's not even taken down. | ||
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Wait, wait. | |
| The Alex Jones public figure account is fine. | ||
| But the Alex Jones private figure account... | ||
| Yes, his personal account. | ||
| We've got to censor this shit. | ||
| I mean, everybody that knows you is on your Facebook group. | ||
| They're going to be... | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| Yeah, this has no impact whatsoever. | ||
| This is meaningless. | ||
| He can just run those accounts through someone else's personal account, or just be like, hey Rob Du, you got a new job for a month. | ||
| Yeah, they might as well just run an advertisement saying, guess what, we're the globalists, we have no power at all, but... | ||
| You are now able to advertise off of us forever! | ||
| We only have an interest in covering our asses slightly with this sort of PR optics move. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it really is advantageous to you and your rhetoric and all that. | ||
| I mean, in their defense, though, it's advantageous to the both of them. | ||
| Because they got a shit ton of press for... | ||
| It's a 360 win. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They got a press for being like, we're going after Alex Jones. | ||
| Alex Jones gets press for them. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| It's kind of almost like they all know that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And they're all sort of playing the exact same game where everyone hedges their own bets and no one really makes a move. | ||
| And the people who get hurt are... | ||
| You know, humans. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, the humans people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The people whose rhetoric Alex actually affects. | ||
| The people who he's demonizing and things like that. | ||
| That's the people who get hurt. | ||
| Now, I've been a long-time proponent of don't kick Alex off things unless he's committing a crime or whatever. | ||
| Which we have discovered who's done in the past. | ||
| Somewhat, yeah. | ||
| I don't know if financial crimes count. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's not my job to figure that out. | ||
| Capitalism. | ||
| I hate to punt on it because I should have an opinion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I don't really because I don't run Facebook. | ||
| I don't run YouTube. | ||
| That's not my decision to make. | ||
| And quite frankly, if I did run them, I would have kicked him off long ago. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like, it's not a question now, should he be kicked off? | ||
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Right. | |
| No, he should have been kicked off fucking years ago. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's absurd to even ask the question. | ||
| We need to impeach Trump now because of the Russia shit. | ||
| No, we should have impeached him the moment he started because of the Emoluments Clause. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's an absurd question to be asking. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Because the answer, it doesn't reflect reality. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, I mean, if you ask me what I would do in this situation, I would say I would never let myself be in this situation were I Facebook or YouTube or any of those things. | ||
| You pull the weeds out from the root, you don't snip a little bit of their leaves. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And whatever financial incentive any of those platforms have to have him on is dwarfed by other video game channels that exist on YouTube or any of those things that aren't disgusting rhetoric. | ||
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Although that's not entirely true for video game channels. | |
| That's true. | ||
| As we've discovered many times in the past. | ||
| I'm thinking of some benign ones. | ||
| Some that are just like, hey, why is Stardew Valley great? | ||
| Yeah, that's great. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Two million views. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Enjoy your lives. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Or those weirdos who try things. | ||
| You know, like, whether it's my dear Irish friends. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Irish people react to stuff. | ||
| Or the BuzzFeed version. | ||
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Fantastic. | |
| Or any of that. | ||
| Like, that has millions of views on all of their videos. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Also, I'm very pissed off about it because I came up with that idea. | ||
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At least... | |
| At least a couple years before BuzzFeed started doing it, and I pitched it to Groupon back when I worked there. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, as like, I will go try all of the Groupon live experiences and make a YouTube video that capitalizes on fear of missing out. | ||
| That whole human instinct. | ||
| I'm a comedian. | ||
| I'm a funny guy. | ||
| It would be fun. | ||
| Why not do that? | ||
| We'll get a lot of views. | ||
| It's free marketing for Groupon shit. | ||
| And they were like... | ||
| More or less. | ||
| They were like, damn, stick to data entry. | ||
| We don't give a shit. | ||
| So, I mean, look, my pettiness aside about that, those videos get far more views than Alex. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So, all that stuff, it doesn't really make sense to me. | ||
| I think it's stupid. | ||
| I think that... | ||
| What you do now with this Facebook penalty and this YouTube penalty, all you're doing is taking away your own credibility and your own ability to deal with this in any way in the future. | ||
| All you're doing is making it very clear that we will punish you in symbolic wrist slap only and nothing more. | ||
| It's detoothing to some extent for their own... | ||
| It's kabuki theater. | ||
| It's pathetic. | ||
| That's insulting to Kabuki Theater. | ||
| It's a legitimate, wonderful art form. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| So I think this has sort of said most of my piece about these two bands and how all they really do is just play into Alex's hands. | ||
| But the one thing that I thought was interesting was when I heard that his channel was going to be banned from streaming, I was like, I don't give a shit. | ||
| He doesn't really stream on his own channel anyway. | ||
| That goes through the Ron Gibson channel. | ||
| And so I was like, well... | ||
| He's just going to do it there. | ||
| So on Thursday, I checked in, and Ron Gibson's channel had also been banned from streaming. | ||
| Ooh, but that's not in the news. | ||
| And that made me think, like, oh, maybe they are taking this fairly seriously and trying to chop off the little tentacles. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where it's like, oh, you're clearly getting around the ban here. | ||
| But Ron Gibson's channel had been, so it had been shut down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he just started a second channel. | ||
| And posted a link. | ||
| In his page to, like, here's where the videos are going to be streamed from now on. | ||
| So on Thursday, that was fine. | ||
| So I checked in on Friday, and I was like, well, he's clearly going to be streaming this. | ||
| Let's see what's going on. | ||
| His second channel had been kicked off of streaming. | ||
| So they are taking that end of it kind of seriously, which is fine. | ||
| But again, as we already pointed out, he doesn't really have that many people watching his streams. | ||
| But, interestingly, because his second channel had been kicked off of streaming, Ron Gibson then took it to Twitch. | ||
| So he jumped to Twitch. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So today, on Friday, his episode was streamed on Twitch. | ||
| But about an hour and a half in, Twitch clearly kicked the channel off. | ||
| No shit! | ||
| So he's having trouble legitimately finding a home for streaming. | ||
| And I think what he's going to end up landing on is probably something on Gab or Vimeo or something like that. | ||
| There's plenty of other options. | ||
| Somebody's going to let him go. | ||
| Yeah, someone's going to look the other way. | ||
| But I did think it was interesting that... | ||
| YouTube was at least taking into account the fact that he has multiple channels. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Good for them! | ||
| Facebook isn't taking that into account at all. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| The other day saying he has 15 Facebook pages. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Who cares? | |
| The Infowars actual page is still up and running. | ||
| The public figure Alex Jones page is still up and running. | ||
| All of the InfoWars personalities are allowed to go. | ||
| All that they did was they changed a little bit of the reach, I guess? | ||
| No, I don't even think that. | ||
| I think it's just the convenience of Alex's use of the platform. | ||
| He's slightly inconvenient. | ||
| He has to log into a different account. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| This all stems, basically, from a couple of videos that YouTube decided did not follow their community guidelines. | ||
| And I can't prove that these are the exact videos, but InfoWars and Paul Joseph Watson posted an article that had the videos in question that caused the ban. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so there are four videos that got taken down. | ||
| Mysteriously, there's only three on the article that PJ Dubs posted. | ||
| But I guess he's busy, and I'm not going to really think... | ||
| I don't think that's a conspiracy. | ||
| So one of them is Alex being really mad about a cartoon called Drag Tots, which is not really for kids. | ||
| It's a part of RuPaul's Drag Race. | ||
| What now? | ||
| He got banned for a video about Drag Tots. | ||
| He's commenting on Drag Tots. | ||
| Drag Tots. | ||
| Yeah, because he's saying it's sexualizing children. | ||
| They're sexualizing toddlers! | ||
| Right. | ||
| They play the... | ||
| The drag taunts. | ||
| And it really just, to me, I look at it and I'm like, well, this is just sort of a mix of My Little Pony, the new ones, like the art style of that, and then Muppet Babies. | ||
| Sounds great. | ||
| Sounds fantastic. | ||
| It's not for me, but it is what it is. | ||
| It's not for you. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't know, though. | ||
| This doesn't really even rank in terms of Alex's anti-cross-dresser, anti-trans content and how he conflates the two. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say. | ||
| It really doesn't even, like, it doesn't rank. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| So Drag Tots was their line in the sand, not all of the other shit. | ||
| Well, the only thing I can come up with is that the video does weave into some really dangerous territory because he does run footage of children from a show about kids who like to cross-dress. | ||
| Probably some sort of, I don't know, AMC show or something like that. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Some, like, mini human interest documentary series, maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know enough about TV shows. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I have no fucking idea. | ||
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Of course. | |
| But he does run footage of these kids who are identified as they were on that show, and it shows their names and stuff. | ||
| And while he's running this footage, he does get into a lot of his gross pedophile demon ranting. | ||
| Of course, of course. | ||
| But at the same time, I could see stupid people watching it identifying the people who are on screen as being... | ||
| As evil as Alex is screaming about. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But at the same time, it's really nothing different than I've seen him do many times before. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I was going to say, this is old hat. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It is. | ||
| The pedophile fantasy shit we've been documenting for ten years now? | ||
| Yeah, more or less. | ||
| Like, from, from 2000, even from back from our 2009 episode. | ||
| Not as extreme back then. | ||
| Not as extreme, but it's still there. | ||
| It's definitely more of a focus for him now. | ||
| And that's probably just because it caught fire on the internet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the other thing is, so the second video is clearly over a month old because Alex is clean-shaven. | ||
| And all it is is Alex talking about Muslims taking over Europe. | ||
| They're the worst. | ||
| He's commenting on a video of a Emmanuel Macron speech. | ||
| Can't be having that. | ||
| It's nothing really different from his normal shtick, but he does say that after Muslims take over Europe, they're going to blow up the planet and that Muslims are going to kill the entire world. | ||
| It's cruel, it's manipulative, and deeply bigoted. | ||
| But I've heard him say the same thing and worse so many fucking times in the past. | ||
| So I don't care about that. | ||
| So what's their plan? | ||
| What? | ||
| They're just going to take over the world and then blow it up, or they're going to blow it up in the attempt to take over the world? | ||
| The implication that he makes, and this is, again, nothing new, is that whenever Muslims get in charge of something, they end up fighting with everybody because they're somehow, I don't know, genetically incapable of peace. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| That's the implication of what he says. | ||
| No idea. | ||
| Horrifying, awful, bigoted, disgusting, not... | ||
| Out of line with InfoWars regular content. | ||
| This is very standard stuff. | ||
| That's like a Tuesday for them. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's nothing. | ||
| So then the third one is a weird attempt at humor, where they've just stolen somebody else's viral video. | ||
| So it's a little kid flexing on a grown man, right? | ||
| Nice. | ||
| And the man is joking around with him for a little bit. | ||
| After about 20 seconds, the kid starts hitting the guy. | ||
| And then the guy grabs the kid by the neck and throws him to the pavement, and the kid starts wailing. | ||
| I'm not a fan of anybody here so far. | ||
| I'm not either. | ||
| It's weird, and they're playing it with some weird music behind it, but... | ||
| The Highwaymen? | ||
| Yeah, Silver Stallion. | ||
| I could see an argument that this would be seen as child endangerment, but only because the video is titled, How to Prevent Liberalism. | ||
| Which implies... | ||
| Violence! | ||
| Duh! | ||
| It implies in some way that the guy is standing up to the aggressive child that represents liberals. | ||
| off the hook from my position is at the very end, Darren McBreen comes in doing a voiceover and says, quote, prevent liberalism, use condoms, which makes no sense. | ||
| It makes zero sense. | ||
| None. | ||
| I know it's comedy. | ||
| I know it's an attempt at comedy. | ||
| I was going to say, you saying that it was comedy seems very generous. | ||
| It's an attempt. | ||
| I know it's supposed to be in that world, but I don't know what the joke is. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like, if you use condoms, then that kid wouldn't be there, maybe. | ||
| But that guy clearly wasn't the kid's dad, so that makes no sense. | ||
| Is the implication that unsafe sex creates liberals? | ||
| If so, how do conservatives get made? | ||
| Because it's so stupid, and it's clearly a bullshit attempt at being funny. | ||
| I give this a pass in terms of, like, why you would ever censor their channel for it. | ||
| I understand that if you are a right thing person, you'd see a video titled How to Prevent Liberalism and then a grown person assaulting a fucking child. | ||
| It seems like that's more of a how to make people liberals. | ||
| Conservatives are grown men fighting children. | ||
| I think that some bad early reports on it might have implied that Alex was the adult in that video. | ||
| Yeah, but he wasn't. | ||
| Was he? | ||
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| But the reason that someone might make that sort of mistake is that Alex and that guy both have really shitty beards. | ||
| I think the only person... | ||
| It seems like Alex might do something like that. | ||
| No, he absolutely would do something like that. | ||
| I think the only actor that they could get to really pull that off... | ||
| And I am assuming that that's who they got. | ||
| Sir Ian McKellen, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Was it him? | ||
| It was not. | ||
| Did he say, you shall not liberal! | ||
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Boom. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it wasn't. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| The only reason that I think that there might be some validity to Alex's claims when he says that people said it was him is that I did see an article, I think it was on The Verge, that had a correction. | ||
| Initially, we reported that Alex was in the video. | ||
| And if you watch the video, there's no one else that he could be other than the guy who fucking throws the tip to the paper. | ||
| So my point about that is, everyone, stop covering Alex Jones. | ||
| Because if you're covering him, and you are any of these, even The Verge, I don't know if they're the most reputable, biggest name in news, but if you are in any way covering him, and you misreport... | ||
| That he is the person assaulting that child, even if you immediately make a correction, you have just given him the greatest gift you could ever give. | ||
| You have to play very tight with these people because they make a mountain out of a molehill. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Any mistake you make about them is going to be played for such an advantage for them. | ||
| So anyway, the argument that he's being kicked off for videos that incite bigotry... | ||
| No shit. | ||
| But he does that all the time. | ||
| If you're going to make that a serious complaint you're levying, go through all of it, give him strikes for all that shit, and throw him off your fucking platform forever. | ||
| And then go through and apply that same standard to everyone. | ||
| Can't do that. | ||
| Well, of course you can't. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| You can't do that, and so they won't. | ||
| They'll just give him these pissant slap on the wrists. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Further, I have heard the statement that he... | ||
| Is being charged, or not charged with, but accused of child endangerment because of that video. | ||
| The child endangerment piece was never that he was the person in the video. | ||
| He will later in this episode that we're going to listen to make it seem like that's what people are accusing him of. | ||
| It's more that the child endangerment aspect comes from him presenting this guy assaulting a child as sort of a positive thing. | ||
| Which is not good. | ||
| It's how you stop liberals. | ||
| And that seems to be his main goal in life. | ||
| Beat it out of children. | ||
| So there's that, and then the second, that first video about the drag tots, where he's getting into some really dicey territory where he's doing his demon screaming over actual children. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That could put them in a position where someone might want to hurt them. | ||
| I don't know if that, based on all of these social media places, actions in the past, merits kicking him off. | ||
| But, I mean, I get the arguments, and if you don't nut up and just actually kick him off, then just stop. | ||
| Go fuck yourself. | ||
| Just stop. | ||
| All this is nothing. | ||
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Daddy, shouldn't people be provided healthcare since we care about human beings? | |
| Get me a switch, boy! | ||
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Go. | |
| It's brutal, man. | ||
| He chokeslams that kid down. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, it's horrible. | ||
| And it's like an official video that they made. | ||
| It's not like they grabbed it. | ||
| No, they stole it from someone else. | ||
| It's a viral video that someone else put out. | ||
| It's a legitimate viral video that has nothing to do with them specifically? | ||
| Like, they didn't produce it. | ||
| They didn't write it. | ||
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Nope. | |
| They didn't do anything. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| They just stole it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That could be a different... | ||
| Yeah, that's a whole different thing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Copyright issues. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Fair use. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| So, anyway, I've taken the July 27th episode. | ||
| I went over it because I have these feelings about Alex's place in life, all the drama, all of the articles that miss the point. | ||
| And what I expected to find on the 27th was probably Alex screaming, probably being like, the globalists are afoot. | ||
| They're going to take us down. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But what I instead found was what I more expected to find. | ||
| And I think that over the course of this episode, you'll see exactly what I mean. | ||
| I don't want to tip my hand too much, but Alex is Alex. | ||
| Here's an Out of Context drop from today's show. | ||
| Did you hear Jones had a video taken down for N-Word? | ||
| What? | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Just for N-Word? | ||
| Like, N-Word had the video taken down, but Alex Jones took it down for N-Word. | ||
| On behalf of N-Word. | ||
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On behalf of N-Word. | |
| I don't think that's what he's saying, but yeah. | ||
| Also, I want to do this real quick. | ||
| I'm sorry we had that bit of a 25-minute intro. | ||
| But before we get to today's show, I'd like to give a shout-out to a new donor. | ||
| And I don't know anything about Alex Jones. | ||
| So, as we know, my favorite person's name of all time is someone that you don't believe is real. | ||
| That's my boy, Scrump. | ||
| But I have to give a shout-out to a nice... | ||
| Runner-up in the great name division. | ||
| I would like to say thank you very much for joining up with the team. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk, Skiba. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining up, Skiba. | ||
| We appreciate it. | ||
| If you'd like to join up and help support the show, you can do so by going to knowledgefight.com, clicking the support the show button. | ||
| Please do. | ||
| Now, with that out of the way... | ||
| Please do. | ||
| With that out of the way... | ||
| For a lot of reasons. | ||
| So many reasons. | ||
| So many reasons. | ||
| If we get that, put aside. | ||
| And now... | ||
| We jump into today's show. | ||
| The first five minutes of the show, because Alex Jones, how he operates, is the first five minutes is optional on a lot of stations that he runs, because a lot of them do news at the top of the hour. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he has this five minute... | ||
| Which is why we get so many great songs. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| The songs are just pure love. | ||
| That's... | ||
| I can tell you that's random on the clock. | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| In 2009, that's just because he didn't really have much to say. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And he didn't have people telling him what to say. | ||
| But now, because he has this clock that he operates off of, a lot of times the first five minutes of the show will be him just sort of doing a best of what's to come. | ||
| And then if John Bowne has a new video out, he'll play that at the top and then come in six minutes later. | ||
| Today's episode, Mark Dice is doing a little bit of a little Mark Dicey business. | ||
| Doing a little, hey, how you doing? | ||
| I'm Mark Dice. | ||
| Why is Mark Dice allowed? | ||
| It shouldn't be. | ||
| But so Mark, a lot of his videos are him doing really bad man on the street bits. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Before we go, and I know where... | ||
| How is it? | ||
| You don't know shit. | ||
| No, no, I don't know shit. | ||
| I mean, like, I know we've been over this 10 million times. | ||
| And I know it's bullshit. | ||
| But, fucking, if you're gonna go after Alex Jones, why isn't Mike Cernovich also top on the list? | ||
| That fucking pile of garbage is, at this point, worse! | ||
| Or at least more effective at getting James Gunn fired. | ||
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Meh. | |
| Like, what else? | ||
| Like, what are we doing? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| We're pretending. | ||
| The issue with Mike Cernovich is kind of, like, he knows his brand really well, and he's not gonna go after somebody that people will, like, really stand up for. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, I see what you're saying. | ||
| And the line that he's making on, like, with this James Gunn business is so much, like, people, right-thinking people would be like, Yeah, that's fucked up. | ||
| What he posted was really fucked up stuff. | ||
| I know it is a joke, and you shouldn't be held to task for that, but I'm not going to waste my energy on this one. | ||
| He knows to do that. | ||
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It seems like we're all on that level of like... | |
| Really, dude? | ||
| Of all the problems that we're gonna go with, that's tops of the list? | ||
| Thanks, Disney. | ||
| Fucking fix your other shit. | ||
| Well, Cernovich overextended himself when he tried to present those fraudulent documents about Schumer. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| He did that, and him and Charles Johnson got sort of slapped down, and they kind of realized, like, okay, this is the level of con we can pull off. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's bigger issues that we could, like, bigger scams we could do. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| We're gonna get in fucking trouble. | ||
| The FBI is gonna get involved. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So instead, Mike Cernovich is just like, who gives a shit? | ||
| He's just a little asshole who puts out his periscopes, and then he spends all his time, or his minions do it for him. | ||
| Going through celebrities that they don't like Twitter and trying to find things to be like, like him and Laura Loomer were complaining about Patton Oswalt putting up a bunch of tweets. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| That were like, the Nazis were right. | ||
| Oh, but they didn't put the context in that, like it was the second tweet in a thread or something like that. | ||
| The theme was he was posting a bunch of tweets that were unfortunately cut off at exactly the wrong point. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So they took the second ones and were like, can you believe this guy was in Ratatouille? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| He's allowed to. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's like, come on, guys. | ||
| You guys are children. | ||
| You guys have such bad faith. | ||
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It's such children. | |
| That's all you do. | ||
| You all just operate from a position of bad faith. | ||
| You have no interest in what reality is. | ||
| You just want to score points and shit like that. | ||
| They're children. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| They're in the backseat of a car, and they're like, Mom, she's getting in my space. | ||
| You're fucking children. | ||
| So to your question of why don't we deal with him, it's because I'm not that interested in him, period. | ||
| Oh, I don't mean the two of them. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| I mean, like, the rest of them. | ||
| But I think that a lot of people are probably in the same position of, like, he's gonna run out of steam. | ||
| Like, I think even the right kind of sees through him a little bit. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Without clearly bots, like, he doesn't have much engagement at all. | ||
| Zero benefit of the doubt. | ||
| Zero benefit of the doubt. | ||
| He had some big, like, rally he was trying to put together and, like, four people showed up. | ||
| That's pretty funny. | ||
| Like, most of his traffic isn't real. | ||
| Most of his supporters aren't real people. | ||
| Or he just has people who are afraid to come out of their houses. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| He's a bunch of cowards, then. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| Yeah, good point. | ||
| I don't think he shows up much anymore on Alex's show. | ||
| I think the two of them might have had a falling out after that great CNN is ISIS business they put together. | ||
| You have a good first album and then you get the sophomore slump. | ||
| That happens. | ||
| That happens to everybody. | ||
| So someone who's never had a good first album is Mark Dice. | ||
| Nicely done. | ||
| And so he starts off and he's just doing this video where he's making fun of how Anderson Cooper and CNN decided to start doing some Facebook live streams. | ||
| And apparently there's a contract where they are putting out one a week on Facebook, one a day, Monday through Friday, as a new content creator on Facebook. | ||
| And let's see if you can point out the point where this makes no sense. | ||
| Later in the show, he was joined by Jim Acosta. | ||
| And as you can see by the live viewer count here, they didn't even have 5,000 people tuning into the stream. | ||
| And look at this, they're formatting the show vertically for mobile devices because apparently their audience doesn't know that you can turn your phone sideways and expand it full screen when you're watching media. | ||
| Later in the stream, Anderson decided to answer some audience questions to make the show interactive. | ||
| And by that time, the viewership had dropped down to under 4,000 people. | ||
| So two times in 30 seconds, he points out how few viewers they have. | ||
| Which, as we know, I watch Alex's live streams all the time. | ||
| They have like 2,000, if that. | ||
| You know, like, it's not... | ||
| This is a really bizarre line to take in terms of, like, humiliating CNN or something like that. | ||
| Also, with his voice, shouldn't he be wearing a green suit with... | ||
| Dollar signs on it. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| You can get free money from the government! | ||
| He is doing a real fucked up... | ||
| Like, if you see him on the streets, he's not doing that voice. | ||
| What is that voice? | ||
| I think he thinks it's appealing. | ||
| That's the only thing I can guess. | ||
| 4,000? | ||
| He thinks it sounds cool. | ||
| And then, I mean, the operating principle that's going on here is making fun of CNN because they believe, and maybe they're right, that CNN was behind them. | ||
| 9-11. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Getting kicked off of Facebook in this wrist slap minor putative measure. | ||
| CNN was behind it. | ||
| Well, because CNN and Brian Stelter did do pieces about, like, why has nobody done that? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Which is a fair question. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But who knows if they actually had anything to do with it. | ||
| I imagine they have better things to do. | ||
| Well, you would hope. | ||
| But who knows? | ||
| Mark Dice, the report is terrible. | ||
| Mark Dice is not going hard on this. | ||
| Or perhaps Mark Dice is going too hard and doesn't realize that he has nothing. | ||
| Like, he's a guy who's like, you know what? | ||
| I'm really going to throw my fastball this time. | ||
| I'm going to leave it all out on the table. | ||
| And it is 74 miles an hour. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| So that report is shit. | ||
| And then we get to a commercial break after that before Alex comes in. | ||
| And Roger Stone is singing a new tune in this commercial. | ||
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We need you to go to the site now. | |
| If you're not in the market for one of our greatest nutraceuticals, please consider a contribution. | ||
| $25, $50, $100, $250, or even $500. | ||
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Would be a godsend to our important work here to beat back the globalists. | |
| So, I mean, they play a variation of that same commercial a couple times. | ||
| It's just Roger Stone straight up asking for money. | ||
| If you don't want to buy our bullshit products that won't do you anything, how about you give us money so we don't even have any overhead on taking that money? | ||
| That's a great deal. | ||
| They've shifted things a tiny bit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Whereas I think they've probably, since all these lawsuits have been coming in, I think they are asking for just money, money. | ||
| And shit like that. | ||
| But it's very different. | ||
| It feels weird. | ||
| It's a lot more desperate than we're used to seeing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I don't know if it depicts actual desperation or just, I'm sick of this shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sales are down on my supplements. | ||
| We do need some money coming in to look good. | ||
| If we have no money coming in and our numbers are dropping, whoever is bankrolling the operation is going to be like, this isn't worth my investment anymore. | ||
| I pay you to spout these narratives because of the people listening to you and who are engaged in it. | ||
| Or even more likely, it's like if you're laundering money. | ||
| no one ever goes to. | ||
| Right. | ||
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You're like, this is a little bit too suspicious. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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So if Alex has no listeners and somehow he's still got a $3 million studio. | |
| The jig is up a little bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It definitely is the sort of thing that investigators would be like, hmm. | |
| How is it that you have reported a profit of negative a million dollars and yet you are fucking rolling in as your ton of money? | ||
| Very strange. | ||
| That's odd. | ||
| So there's another commercial that... | ||
| Tax evasion! | ||
| There's another commercial that gets played that indicates to me a very strong glimpse at where Alex and the Infowars team thinks things are going. | ||
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Hey, how would you like to take InfoWars with you wherever you go? | |
| Well, now you can do just that with the new official InfoWars app. | ||
| And here's the best part. | ||
| It is absolutely free! | ||
| So, they're pushing the app. | ||
| InfoWars app? | ||
| I've not heard commercials for that all too regularly. | ||
| Have they had one? | ||
| I think they have, but it's been like a real piece of shit. | ||
| Like a real beta kind of app. | ||
| I think they might have got it redesigned or something like that, but I think that they're starting to realize that like... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| YouTube and Facebook are starting to give us slaps on the wrist. | ||
| We can't afford to change our behavior. | ||
| And Apple ain't gonna do shit, baby! | ||
| Well, that's a gamble that they're making, because they could just get kicked off the App Store really easily. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Which I think is probably what would end up happening if... | ||
| If everyone else started to make moves realistically towards you're not allowed on our platform, they would end up just on Gab. | ||
| And having to create their own places, which Gab was an attempt to do, that didn't work. | ||
| Because it turns out there's actually not a lot of them. | ||
| They're just so loud. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| I think that there are probably a lot of people who go... | ||
| This way, let's say. | ||
| No, I understand. | ||
| But the problem is, once you create those spaces that are specially tailored for this world, what you end up with is all of those loud shitheads in one place where they're not restrained from saying Nazi shit. | ||
| They're not restrained from throwing N-words around and talking racist. | ||
| Like, it's sort of a gentleman speak freely kind of thing, and then once they do, they ruin it, and all the normal people are like... | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| We agree with you, but we can't be saying that shit. | ||
| Either that or they don't agree with that. | ||
| And they're like, look, I still agree with Infowars and stuff like that, but I can't be a part of this community. | ||
| They dissociate that being what it's really about and what they think it's really about. | ||
| And so anytime these... | ||
| Niche communities get started up. | ||
| They end up drifting towards the fascist. | ||
| They start drifting towards the bigot because that's what it's about. | ||
| It's an unsustainable marketplace. | ||
| You can't grow unless more people become bigoted or more people are like, yeah, fuck yeah, which I guess is the same thing. | ||
| You end up with, let's say, in terms of the Infowars audience, it's 25% monsters and 75% meh. | ||
| Stupid or tricked or whatever or people watching it for entertainment value. | ||
| You assume maybe those are the numbers. | ||
| Once you get them all in the same place and not on Twitter where they're fighting against Twitter, you can sort of... | ||
| Have a lot of issues get put to the back burner when you're fighting the system. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Once you own the system and you're like, oh, all of my fellow compatriots really just want to drop 1488 references. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know about this anymore. | ||
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Right. | |
| That 75% is mostly going to leave. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You're going to end up with maybe that 25 and 5%, 10% that gets shifted. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, it gets flipped over. | ||
| Then you're left with nothing and the people who are left. | ||
| Are so cancerous that no one has any entry point to it. | ||
| Well, that's why the dog whistle has been so effective. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Because all the people that they push away actually agree with them, but they're not comfortable throwing the N-word around. | ||
| They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
| I definitely want black people to be slaves, but I don't want to say the N-word anymore. | ||
| That's offensive. | ||
| You can't make it too overt without... | ||
| Alienating. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That's how you get fucked. | ||
| Because that's like looking in a mirror for these people. | ||
| But if they see that shit, then they have to then connect the ideas that they're throwing around, where it's like... | ||
| Why is it that I agree 100% with people who are happily throwing the N-word around? | ||
| That doesn't seem like it reflects well on me. | ||
| So I'm going to leave this community, and then I can comfortably be racist without feeling bad about being white. | ||
| Somewhat. | ||
| I agree with you, but I also think that the more important point is this is the truth behind... | ||
| All of the bullshit arguments that people like Alex, people like most of his guests and co-hosts have about the idea that Twitter, Facebook are monopolies on a social square. | ||
| Like the public square of modern times, which is bullshit, number one. | ||
| Go talk to your friends. | ||
| Oh, they wish they could. | ||
| If you think that the internet is the be-all end-all of public discourse, then I'm afraid that that says more about you than it does about public discourse. | ||
| But secondarily, the idea that those are monopolies on this public space just speaks to it's not because other things haven't tried. | ||
| It's that other things have fucking failed because of intrinsic problems with groups of Nazis. | ||
| Groups of racists come together and they alienate people on the fence. | ||
| And that's why you can't have those sort of communities. | ||
| That's why Stormfront has their community and the members who have been there, but I don't think there's a lot of new members. | ||
| Except for, you know, people who would already be going that direction and are just coming of age to be on the internet. | ||
| That's a whole other thing. | ||
| That's a whole other thing. | ||
| Is it a whole other thing, though? | ||
| Very related, but unpacking how that has led to a lot of this is something that much smarter people can do, and if we tried, it would take us all down. | ||
| It's a strange funnel. | ||
| It's a strange funnel to go from, I like Fortnite, to being like, oh, so the N-word isn't that bad. | ||
| It's not that strange. | ||
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No. | |
| Look at Mike Cernovich. | ||
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Yeah, fair enough. | |
| Again, back to that ding-dong. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Now we get back to the show, and we finally get to Alex coming in. | ||
| And you know how Mark Dice was saying that CNN only had... | ||
| That you can get free money from the government if you buy his book. | ||
| And that CNN only had like 4,000 viewers on their... | ||
| On their stream? | ||
| That's not enough. | ||
| So Alex gets into that a little bit here, and I think he gives a little bit of a, like, I understand that I don't really either, and tries to explain it away. | ||
| No sooner had they... | ||
| Put strikes on my YouTube and Facebook accounts and blocked us on most of the accounts from live streaming. | ||
| It's a very small part of our audience. | ||
| But for CNN, it's a giant audience. | ||
| They're very jealous of it. | ||
| I'll get to that in a minute. | ||
| Anderson Cooper's total failure with 4,000 viewers on his new Facebook show that they paid $18 million for and that is force-fed and pushed notifications to tens of millions of people. | ||
| They shadow-ban us, and our videos have hundreds of thousands or millions of views. | ||
| They force feed Anderson Cooper. | ||
| Is he crying or laughing? | ||
| And he had 4,000 viewers in the entire show. | ||
| What is he doing? | ||
| It's laughing. | ||
| It's sort of a like, ha ha, I've won over my arch rival. | ||
| It's a bit of a cry laugh. | ||
| I don't think his heart's in it. | ||
| His heart's not in that laugh. | ||
| Oh, it's a very different version of fake laugh than a lot of the ones we've... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But that's when he's like, I've got to really ham it up for a full sentence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm holding back the laughter so it sounds like I'm crying. | ||
| That sort of shit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And, you know, that's his way of saying that, you know, hey, streaming is a small part of our audience. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| His audience is a small part of his audience. | ||
| It is and it isn't. | ||
| That's one of the things that we're going to keep coming back to in terms of this whole episode with his banning, his quote-unquote banning stuff. | ||
| Those people who watch his streams are a small part of his audience. | ||
| In terms of like, okay, so there's like 2,000 people streaming this live. | ||
| That's not a negligible part of his audience. | ||
| It's more than we have on our streams. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But it's also people that aren't probably as... | ||
| Like, engaged, maybe. | ||
| Or people who have already bought products. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Maybe it's not the most important thing. | ||
| Whereas, like, his videos will have, like, 15,000 views or something like that when he posts them. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| With scandalous, salacious, bullshit, clickbait titles. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| So, like, what they've taken away is relatively a small piece of his operation compared to what they have left intact. | ||
| Did Hillary skullfuck Seth Rich to death? | ||
| We'll find out at the end of this hour. | ||
| Click. | ||
| Click. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would click on that video. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So what they've done is basically, like, you know, just leave the larger piece intact. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now he can sort of impugn the small piece that has been taken away. | ||
| Like, they didn't even realize it's a tiny piece of the operation. | ||
| Who really gives a shit what's going on? | ||
| But he is allowed to make fun of himself a little bit only because the bigger picture is making fun. | ||
| Of Anderson Cooper. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If his stream hadn't been taken away, he'd probably be presenting it as like, we get so many more viewers. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He is only able to do that because it's now gone. | ||
| So, it's kind of fun. | ||
| It's a simple con. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not hard. | ||
| It's kind of fun, but at the same time, we've not gotten into anything that's super interesting yet. | ||
| It's all just kind of like, eh, who cares? | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex says he's going to sue CNN, which I don't think is true. | ||
| Wait, wait. | ||
| Does he think he has a chance? | ||
| I think. | ||
| Does he think he could win that one? | ||
| I think it's actually more of an embedded plug. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then at the end of it, he kind of gives away that he knows exactly how to benefit off things like what's happening to him right now. | ||
| And CNN is beyond a dog dropping. | ||
| It's beyond fake news. | ||
| This is after he's done, like, maybe 30 seconds on, like, hey, you cover a dog shit and fudge and try and feed it to somebody. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You put more fudge on it, who gives a shit? | ||
| It's still dog shit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Down home stuff. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| I sent them a letter today on notice for tortious interference. | ||
| And I don't just file lawsuits to file them. | ||
| I file them if I can win them 100%. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| I'd like us all to go back to April of last year for Alex Jones. | ||
| When he was up in court against Hamdi Ulukaya, said, I will win this or I will die. | ||
| And, as we all know, he won handily? | ||
| He lost and gave a public apology. | ||
| Did he die, though? | ||
| Politically. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And they are on television saying, take me off the air, and then lying about what I said, and then calling publishers and getting publisher people fired, because... | ||
| Publisher people? | ||
| I'm working on a book with one of the top-selling authors who's alive, Neil Strauss, The War for the Future. | ||
| Secret History of the World and The War for the Future. | ||
| That isn't a book that sells 10 million. | ||
| What doesn't? | ||
| Everyone knows it's the super hit. | ||
| Of course, after you try to ban it, then we'll, of course, publish it ourselves. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| We already knew you'd all do this. | ||
| You just walked out of our trap as usual. | ||
| But the point is that you're still very, very dangerous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| Alex, why are you the weakest link? | ||
| How is it that he's even the weakest link on his own scam? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, it's not a scam, but it is like... | ||
| You've all walked into our trap. | ||
| It's not a trap. | ||
| It's just, you know, it's that same sort of thing. | ||
| It's short-circuiting outrage. | ||
| You can do it really easily. | ||
| And that's why whenever people are in a ban Alex Jones kind of mood, I always am like, eh. | ||
| You guys should probably consider what the actual outcome of that is. | ||
| Because he probably has an end strategy to this. | ||
| The only thing he doesn't have an end strategy for is you literally banning him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because if you do kick him off YouTube, you do kick him off Facebook, he's fucked. | ||
| His radio engagement is not nearly what he claims it is. | ||
| So if you kick him off, legitimately ban all the InfoWars correspondence from Facebook. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Ban the main pages. | |
| Kick it all off. | ||
| Take away streaming capability. | ||
| Like, have someone on it. | ||
| You can't do what I'm advocating for now because you've already backed yourself in a fucking corner. | ||
| Stupid companies. | ||
| Stupid. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's not like companies have a great track record of not being stupid about this kind of shit. | ||
| Holy shit, no. | ||
| To the point where it seems like they are in on it. | ||
| Yeah, it does! | ||
| It kind of seems like that you... | ||
| It almost seems like Alex emailed Facebook and was like, Hey, I got a scam for both of us to rob. | ||
| Let's do the two-man game on this one. | ||
| It seems like maybe Alex gives Facebook $10,000 a month or so in promoting posts and stuff like that, and he's like, "You know that you banned me. | ||
| That's going to go away." Yeah. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There's got to be some sort of a calculus to it, but whatever it is, nobody's acting right. | ||
| No. | ||
| We don't have the answer. | ||
| I don't think we've ever said that anybody's acting right, let alone us. | ||
| Except Bill Ayers. | ||
| Bill Ayers was killing. | ||
| Killing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So here Alex Jones gets into the story that he believes got him banned from all this stuff. | ||
| It's that video about the kid getting beat up. | ||
| And then at the end of this, he talks about how people are trying to take his kids. | ||
| And we'll get into that in just a second. | ||
| It was on local radio. | ||
| It was on local TV. | ||
| He's talking about the viral video of the kid getting beat up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I guess KVUE did it. | ||
| And I've got cousins calling me in East Texas going, yeah, we heard on the news you beat up a child? | ||
| Was that one of your kids? | ||
| They wouldn't show the video. | ||
| And I said, no, that was Missouri. | ||
| That was a different time I beat up my kids. | ||
| It was a kid beating up adults, and one guy pushed him down. | ||
| It was on ABC News. | ||
| I showed it. | ||
| And then the news went, wait, we can say that's child endangerment. | ||
| Take the video down. | ||
| Just say child endangerment. | ||
| Forbes said I beat a kid up. | ||
| And there's now filings. | ||
| At the Travis County Courthouse, people are down there trying to do TROs to take my kids, and they're holding up the article. | ||
| People aren't doing that. | ||
| People aren't doing that. | ||
| His ex-wife is doing that. | ||
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Ah! | |
| It's not like strangers are like... | ||
| There we are. | ||
| Because no one else has standing to file that sort of thing. | ||
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Right. | |
| So Alex is presenting this as some sort of a consequence of people lying about what he did with this video. | ||
| But in reality... | ||
| Right. | ||
| If you follow his ex-wife on Twitter, it's a continuation of exactly what she's been doing for quite a while. | ||
| And Alex presents it as like, the media is saying blank, and it's really what Kelly has been tweeting about. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| On Thursday night, Kelly went down to the courthouse and was filing an emergency order. | ||
| And I don't believe it was because of that video. | ||
| I believe it was she'd had enough. | ||
| That's my guess. | ||
| It's not our business. | ||
| No. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So, earlier, Alex was pitching the app. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And in this next clip, he pitches something else that I think is more indicative that, like, he knows that he needs a backup plan. | ||
| We are the most hated news source in the world by Globalist. | ||
| It is so critical that you go to Infowars.com forward slash newsletter and sign up for the free newsletter so we can be in contact with you and so the censors can't bully their way in and block us being able to engage in free, open-mindedness. | ||
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So he's pushing the newsletter now. | |
| The newsletter? | ||
| Yeah, he has an email newsletter, which I actually signed up for in a dummy account because I figured they were going to start sending a bunch of, like, selling my address to stuff. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I wanted a pure account so I didn't have to do anything else with it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And to my surprise, they didn't. | ||
| It was all just InfoWars shit. | ||
| It was bizarre. | ||
| I thought for sure I'd be getting tons of spam, tons of unsolicited emails. | ||
| Maybe they're just bad at that, too. | ||
| So on that end, I tip my cap to them for not doing that. | ||
| There's a lot of abusive practices. | ||
| You could be engaging it. | ||
| I know! | ||
| Or is that a tip of the cap or halfway a recommendation? | ||
| Again, we're pitching ideas that InfoWars should be doing. | ||
| Oh, I'm sure they could make some money off it. | ||
| You guys have a whole other... | ||
| Have a new stream that you're not even taking advantage of. | ||
| And maybe they know that now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they're pitching the newsletter because they're about to start. | ||
| Because they're about to. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I mean, it could be. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| I don't want to put that in their mouths because I don't know if that's the case. | ||
| But I have not heard a ton of ads. | ||
| Again, I haven't listened to the live stuff in maybe a month or so. | ||
| Quite a while. | ||
| It hasn't been as long as you think. | ||
| I think a month is pretty much as long as I think. | ||
| And that's quite a while for you. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I wouldn't ever really hear lots of commercials for the newsletter or for the app or anything like that. | ||
| I've never heard either of them. | ||
| You've never played them for me in the past, so that seems suspicious in and of itself. | ||
| If I've never heard an ad for the newsletter, which I don't think I ever have... | ||
| That is, after a year and a half of doing this show, bananas to me. | ||
| They've done advertisements for literally everything. | ||
| I heard commercials for stuff like that back in 2009, 2010, because you have instances of... | ||
| At that point, he's selling Infowars.tv, PrisonPlanet.tv subscriptions, so you can get the video and stuff like that if you join the site. | ||
| Because he didn't have a robust presence on YouTube and that shit. | ||
| So there is that... | ||
| That's an old piece of his hustle. | ||
| But because he made so much money off supplements and all that stuff and whatever, it fell by the wayside. | ||
| And now that we have a situation where he sees it's maybe possible that they're going to fucking cut the cord, maybe. | ||
| It's unlikely, but we might need a backup plan. | ||
| Let's build this app. | ||
| Let's make sure more people get on the newsletter so we can email them and scare them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We need to find new tentacles. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So... | ||
| If we can't scare them this way, we gotta find a different way to scare them. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And that way also has to have an ad for supplements. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, up to this point, most of this episode has been sort of dealing with the ban and what have you. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think I've said my piece. | ||
| The fake ban. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think I've said my piece. | ||
| I think you've said your piece. | ||
| I don't think there's gonna be much more of it. | ||
| But... | ||
| The rest of this episode is clearly indicative of what people should be talking about about Alex Jones and aren't. | ||
| This is very important to me because this is not different than ever. | ||
| And on the fucking July 27th, 2018 episode where he's responding to being banned, we will hear some incredibly monstrous shit. | ||
| My response to being banned is to be even more ban-worthy! | ||
| So this first clip isn't really necessarily monstrous, but it's absolutely a piece of the conversation about Alex Jones that most people are missing. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| So here is Tucker Carlson, who, by the way, the Democrats are in the news now calling for him to be deplatformed, and a bunch of other conservatives, like Stephen Crowder and Stefan Molyneux. | ||
| Because they know what's happening. | ||
| White supremacy is spreading. | ||
| They know they're losing. | ||
| And so they misrepresent. | ||
| And Newsweek, CNN, they go, Tucker Carlson defends Alex Jones bullying the Parkland students and saying no one died. | ||
| And Tucker Carlson defends child endangerment. | ||
| All hoaxes. | ||
| All lies. | ||
| Just like they say every hour on the hour, Trump hates Hispanics. | ||
| And says they're all rapists and criminals. | ||
| So then everybody shows up at the Trump star that's been pickaxed and you beat up the white people because, well, they're obviously bad. | ||
| I mean, Donald Trump means Heil Hitler, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| At this point, yes. | ||
| Hard yes. | ||
| Towards the end is what this is all about. | ||
| I mean, this is just spreading white fears. | ||
| Someone, I guess, took a pickaxe to the Hollywood Star at Grauman's Chinese Theater. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| A delight. | ||
| Not as good as whomever let loose Betsy DeVos' yacht. | ||
| That's my favorite thing. | ||
| That's not bad. | ||
| That's such a good thing to do. | ||
| I'm disappointed that it wasn't burnt to the ground at the same time. | ||
| Burnt to the water. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| That carries a far larger sentence if you're caught, so I respect it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Alex talks a lot about this, and I don't know if we're going to hear all that much more about it, but he talks a ton about this incident at the Hollywood Star, and most of it is just like, hey, look, I don't hate Hispanics, but here they are. | ||
| They want to beat up white people. | ||
| And that's all. | ||
| That's all it is. | ||
| I mean, who doesn't, though? | ||
| But that's all it is. | ||
| He's like, the liberals are training Hispanics to beat up whites. | ||
| They're like, okay, fine, whatever. | ||
| He's like, oh! | ||
| Like, with what? | ||
| Krav Maga? | ||
| Like, how are we training them? | ||
| That's the Israelis. | ||
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Is this a MMA situation that I didn't know about? | |
| He's like, it took 15 of these thugs, and they couldn't even beat up these two white dudes. | ||
| And I'm like, I just don't. | ||
| I am like, I don't. | ||
| It's so standard for him, but at the same time, like, I don't get it. | ||
| It's more fun in this context, because he's clearly, he's feeling, well. | ||
| He's acting like he's up against the wall in a way that is far closer to him actually being up against a wall than he normally is acting like he's up against a wall. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| Like, he's at the point where he does feel like, I could be up against a wall for real this time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I'm still going to play my game. | ||
| But now there's a little bit more elevated stakes. | ||
| If things go slightly different in the near future, I might be close to a wall. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
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And I'm not used to being there at all. | |
| Not since Hamdi Ulukaya have I been up against a wall. | ||
| But even then he knew that there was a window he could crawl out of, which was apologizing. | ||
| Which should not have been acceptable, period. | ||
| No, certainly not. | ||
| I mean, Alex, if nothing else, you start to realize he's a pretty good gambler. | ||
| Like, in terms of, like, knowing when someone's bluffing. | ||
| Because almost all the time these people are bluffing when they come up against them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, at this point, he's dealt with so many people who are just weak shit. | ||
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Right. | |
| And he can just, like, bluff past them. | ||
| Like, you know, no one ever calls his shit. | ||
| You know what was never adequately explained to me about that? | ||
| How is an apology a legitimate legal agreement there? | ||
| Well, because he probably also paid some money. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| He probably paid a settlement of some sort. | ||
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Did he pay some money? | |
| I don't know, all that stuff has never been... | ||
| He probably paid their legal fees at least, I assume. | ||
| Nothing has ever been released about that. | ||
| I just don't think that you should be able to sue somebody for an I'm sorry. | ||
| But if you're a millionaire, you know, billionaire maybe, even like Hamdoulakaya, and you just want someone to be like... | ||
| Brought low in public. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That kind of makes sense, because all he was doing was lying about him. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| He didn't actually do anything super negative to the guy's business or anything like that. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| So monetary punishment is kind of unnecessary. | ||
| But it would be more fun. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think honor dictates that if the guy actually apologizes, that's all you're really asking for. | ||
| I don't like gentlemen's bets. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I don't like duels where both guys miss and then they agree to leave his friends. | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| I don't know what to tell you. | ||
| So there's a lot of shadow ban talk. | ||
| I don't know if we need to get into that fully. | ||
| Or maybe we will a little bit later because another guest shows up. | ||
| And we can talk about it at that point because I actually do have a lot of thoughts about that. | ||
| But here Alex complains more about CNN and explains why they're out to get him. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| I wasn't in Missouri a month ago. | ||
| I didn't beat up some kid that was punching me in the face. | ||
| The guy didn't even look like me. | ||
| But right now we can't stream on YouTube or my main Facebook account because... | ||
| YouTube was lobbied by CNN. | ||
| CNN says they lobbied for this. | ||
| And again, why would CNN be spending all its time and all its energy doing this? | ||
| Because they're globalists. | ||
| They work for multinational corporations. | ||
| They work for the Communist Chinese. | ||
| They are a multinational. | ||
| They don't work for it. | ||
| If Carlson isn't going all the way because his audience isn't ready yet, no, no. | ||
| Americans are the enemy of CNN, just as Trump has said. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Good rhetoric. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| That's not dangerous at all. | ||
| It's just like, people don't understand that Americans are against the free press. | ||
| And it's great that they have a president who tells them not to trust anyone other than him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That makes perfect sense. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| All I'm saying is that if, say, you were a Trump supporter... | ||
| And you were talking to Trump, and you were like, you know, my whole family and all of the multicultural people I've ever met are like, you are evil for supporting Trump. | ||
| And Trump was like, they don't respect you, and you should murder all of them. | ||
| That sounds like Alex in 2009. | ||
| Oh, does that sound like that? | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| It seems almost like there's a parallel. | ||
| It seems almost like there was a groundwork laid. | ||
| Cruel, cruel con men. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Seem to like attract like. | ||
| Although, I was reading one of those articles about Alex's ban, and they made a really good point that since Donald Trump... | ||
| He's a loser little titty baby? | ||
| No, but since Trump got elected, he's really not done too much to be like, Alex Jones is great. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| He's really distanced. | ||
| Of course he has. | ||
| Not intellectually or not in terms of the arguments he makes. | ||
| There's still clear overlap and parallel, but like... | ||
| He went on in 2015 and said, your reputation's amazing and all that stuff, and since he got elected, I don't think he gives a shit. | ||
| Alex is one of the contractors that Trump has used in building a casino. | ||
| More or less. | ||
| He's not paying him. | ||
| Yeah, more or less. | ||
| So, on a recent episode that we did, we mentioned, or I mentioned, that I found a bunch of copyrights and trademarks that Alex owns, and it turns out that super male vitality, super female vitality, all have lapsed. | ||
| He hasn't renewed those copyrights. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But I found some new ones. | ||
| And one of them was Firepower Radio. | ||
| Super dick vitality and super vagina-tality. | ||
| He's deciding to cut through the bullshit. | ||
| Gives you a boner. | ||
| That'll be the new name. | ||
| I don't remember if it was Firepower Radio. | ||
| It's something like that. | ||
| And then the other one was Honor Roll. | ||
| And someone, I can't remember who, and I apologize, someone in the Facebook group posted that that's obviously going to be the name of Rex's show. | ||
| And it's going to be Young Info Warriors. | ||
| No! | ||
| And I got terrified. | ||
| No! | ||
| I got terrified because that is a good name for that. | ||
| Yeah, that's a great name for that. | ||
| If Alex is copywriting or trademarking... | ||
| It's second only to Saved by the Bell. | ||
| That would also be a great name for Rex's show. | ||
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If... | |
| The Dean's List. | ||
| Too close to Howard Dean. | ||
| Not going to work. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| But when that... | ||
| Suggestion was made, I was like, holy shit, that is a really good possibility for what this is going to end up being. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Because all you know is that it's a trademark he's filed. | ||
| However, we know, my first reaction to that is obviously Alex will not do that because that's a great idea. | ||
| And once again, why are we doing Punch-Up for Infrowars? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But in this episode we do get what I would describe as one of the creepiest commercials I've ever heard for Honor Roll, which is a new supplement. | ||
| And then you've got Honor Roll. | ||
| This is why it took us a couple years, because I could have instantly private-labeled something. | ||
| I said, no, I want all the oils that are known for the brain to be the very, very best, and I want it at a price way below anybody else, and I want it stronger. | ||
| I don't want you fillers. | ||
| We have done it. | ||
| This baby right here is the nuclear option for your children, you name it. | ||
| I mean, you want to give your children the boost they need. | ||
| I mean, this is it. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, just look at it. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Everybody else is just, like, yellow or clear. | ||
| That's because it's been denated. | ||
| Why is that a creepy lie? | ||
| I want that good will. | ||
| What I do to you, I do to myself. | ||
| Don't you get the big secret? | ||
| Real quick. | ||
| Wait, that was an ad? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That was an advertisement. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| That sounded way less like an advertisement and more like a fucking breakdown in reality. | ||
| You heard the music playing behind it. | ||
| This is a pre-packaged thing. | ||
| This isn't him on the show doing an ad pivot. | ||
| Give your kids this oil. | ||
| All of these oils. | ||
| You see those clear oils that look like water? | ||
| Disgusting. | ||
| You see those yellow oils that look like urine? | ||
| That's even grosser. | ||
| We're promising you full green and brown oils. | ||
| Orange? | ||
| Orange. | ||
| So, I just love that, like, this is a nuclear option for your kids. | ||
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Honor roll. | |
| Honor roll. | ||
| Don't you want your kids to feel like I do right now? | ||
| Don't you want your kids to feel like they're getting the best? | ||
| Neighbors. | ||
| It's 11. Sorry. | ||
| It's fish oil. | ||
| Yeah, of course it is. | ||
| That's all it is. | ||
| Which has, again, recently been debunked as bullshit. | ||
| For the millionth time. | ||
| But it's not terrible for you or anything like that. | ||
| It's not like it's not... | ||
| It is helpful, but it's a little overblown in the same way as like a ginkgo biloba or something like that or any of Alex's products. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Oh, man. | ||
| Marty was texting me earlier today because he was in an Uber. | ||
| Or not an Uber. | ||
| He was in a Lyft. | ||
| I don't want to put it out there. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| Fuck Uber. | ||
| He was in a Lyft and the driver was an info warrior. | ||
| No shit! | ||
| And he was telling me that he had iodine in the car. | ||
| No! | ||
| No! | ||
| I was so like, oh god, this is awful. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So rare to have an info warrior in the wild, especially a captive audience. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where they have to... | ||
| I will say one thing. | ||
| I don't think ill of people who subscribe to Alex's beliefs necessarily. | ||
| I think that there's probably a lot of well-meaning, misled people in that group. | ||
| But I will say the ones that I've ever met, not made for the service industry. | ||
| I will say that. | ||
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I feel... | |
| I feel like that's tough, and then I also feel like it's probably tough if you're someone who works for Lyft. | ||
| You're kind of in the gig economy, and it's weird for you to then be propping up a propagandist who is really super into keeping you in the gig economy, where you're struggling and driving people around for pennies. | ||
| That's the trick. | ||
| That's the trick that the conservative movement has pulled up billionaires. | ||
| That's the trick that billionaires have pulled up for so long. | ||
| It's just like, your interests are terrible. | ||
| You need to have my interests, and my interests are me making a lot more money and you making none. | ||
| And somehow they believe that shit. | ||
| Well, you suck it up, and if you go along with it, you're allowed to have this fantasy where you believe that you will also be one of them. | ||
| It's the prosperity gospel scam. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was texting you about this earlier, and that's kind of something I'm worried about with my new favorite show that I've got you on, apparently. | ||
| Everything with Phil Rosenthal. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| I watched five episodes and I'm out. | ||
| So if you guys have not watched this, I recommend giving it a whirl because it is delightful and charming in many ways. | ||
| There is a PBS show called I'll Have What Phil's Having that got branched out into a Netflix series called Somebody Feed Phil. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Where Phil Rosenthal, who's the guy who created Everybody's... | |
| Everybody loves Raymond. | ||
| He's a billionaire. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| He goes around the world, and he's trying to extol the virtues of traveling and how food brings people together. | ||
| And he does all these amazing, beautiful things where he goes and has these top chefs around the world make him meals, but they never in any way... | ||
| Address the fact that he's a billionaire. | ||
| Yeah, I know, right? | ||
| Even in the I'll Have What Phil's Having, the entire premise of the show, he says it at the beginning of every episode, you can have what I'm having. | ||
| Yeah, no, you can't. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| No, you fucking can't. | ||
| No, you cannot. | ||
| You can travel if you can afford it. | ||
| You can't travel like that. | ||
| No. | ||
| You can meet people, absolutely. | ||
| If you can afford it. | ||
| Well, no, but, like, so, like, a parallel for me. | ||
| Like, I went to Greece with my family in 2007, and for a week of it, we were staying in ancient Corinth, and it was kind of a bummer. | ||
| My dad was, like, working on an archaeological dig there. | ||
| They found something that might have been Paul's church. | ||
| And so we were staying in this little shack for three weeks. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And it was close enough that she came to Greece for a week. | ||
| That is a coincidence. | ||
| Yeah, it was really awesome timing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And so she and I got a hotel in modern Corinth. | |
| Uh-huh. | ||
| You can't call it a metropolis, but more of a city nearby. | ||
| You could call it an Acropolis. | ||
| No, you can't even call it that. | ||
| There might be an Agora. | ||
| So they... | ||
| So we went to modern Corinth and we stayed there for a week away from ancient Corinth. | ||
| Man, that was nice to get out of there a little bit. | ||
| But we met a guy who worked at a coffee shop there who loved Americans. | ||
| And we made friends with him and we would go back to the coffee shop and talk to him. | ||
| And it turned bad when he was like, I want your phone numbers. | ||
| A little bit of a dating misstep. | ||
| No, it was fine, but he wanted to stay in touch and all that. | ||
| I was like, well, here's my email address. | ||
| We can stay in touch that way. | ||
| I don't know if you're going to be able to call me from Greece. | ||
| Let's do pen pals. | ||
| Let's not do text pals. | ||
| And then he turned cold. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Didn't want to email me. | ||
| I don't know what the deal was. | ||
| There was some sort of a disconnect, but, like, you can do that. | ||
| Oh, email killed his father, actually. | ||
| Oh, that could be. | ||
| Yeah, it was an email that did it. | ||
| Didn't think about that. | ||
| He got a virus from an email. | ||
| He got a paper cut. | ||
| So, my point is, go buck wild. | ||
| You can have those experiences all day long if you're poor and you're traveling. | ||
| You can have these things that don't quite level up, maybe, or you can fuck around and find some cool underworld bar or something like that and meet some weirdos and do heroin. | ||
| You can do all those things if you're traveling, but what you can't do is what Phil Rosenthal's doing. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| No, I watched one episode where he took a bite of something and his eyes lit up in such a way that I was caught up in the moment. | ||
| I was like, oh my god, this man truly has experienced beauty and he's conveying it in a facial expression and my mirror neurons are firing and I feel beauty too. | ||
| And then when the episode ended, I was like... | ||
| You're a fucking millionaire. | ||
| Well, fuck you. | ||
| Of course you're happy. | ||
| It's so easy to be happy when you're jet-setting around the world on somebody else's dime while you're also still a millionaire. | ||
| That's the problem with the show, but I don't think that's the problem with Phil. | ||
| I really think that even if he wasn't all that rich, he'd still be just as happy. | ||
| I think that's just his demeanor. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There's no way to prove a counterfactual. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| I think the thing that draws me to the show is that beautiful love of life that he embodies. | ||
| There's an innocence to it, and it's great. | ||
| But at the same time, you can't take class out of it, and it gets really grating when people present it. | ||
| In the same way the capitalist fantasy of grind at this job where you're not making enough to live, and eventually you pay your cards right, all this stuff, maybe you'll be one of those people who capitalizes off capitalism. | ||
| In the same way this show presents a scenario where it's like, you can do all this stuff, and you fucking can't. | ||
| There's just a delusion embedded. | ||
| I don't know why I needed to go off on that, Jan. | ||
| I just don't know. | ||
| We're all off. | ||
| We're on Jags all day today. | ||
| Well, we're recording much later than normal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sour beer is acting weird. | ||
| But it is growing on me a little bit. | ||
| It kind of is. | ||
| The first sip was rough. | ||
| It's kind of... | ||
| I still don't love it, but it's growing on me. | ||
| It's sour, and it takes a little while. | ||
| It's like one of those sour candies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One of those warheads. | ||
| It reminds me of a warhead. | ||
| So it's kind of growing on you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Something that's not going to grow on you. | ||
| Nice transition. | ||
|
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Thanks. | |
| Is Alex's next guest. | ||
| I guarantee you've not heard of this guy. | ||
| We are joined by Pastor Logan Robertson. | ||
| Nope, I have not. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| He was born and raised in New Zealand. | ||
| He is grateful that he was raised in a loving Christian home and was saved as a young child. | ||
| He's happily married for almost 12 years, and the Lord blessed him with five children. | ||
| But now it's in the news. | ||
| That he's been deported from his own country. | ||
| Sent into the Phantom Zone. | ||
| Deported New Zealand pastor Logan Robertson. | ||
| Can New Zealand do that? | ||
| Now shows no remorse for harassing sissy Muslims. | ||
| That's the media spin. | ||
| Oh, it's not the Muslims killing us? | ||
| Sue, uh... | ||
| This guy, he's from New Zealand. | ||
| He lived in Australia. | ||
| Started harassing a bunch of Muslims and agitating and shit. | ||
| And then Australia said, go back to New Zealand, you dick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I'm not... | ||
| Man, I like their constitution slightly better than ours because they do reserve the right to deport people for being a dick. | ||
| Well, I'm not here to defend another country's decision about their deportation laws. | ||
| I know every country has sort of different standards and that sort of thing. | ||
| That's not my business. | ||
| Alex ends up playing the video of Logan Robertson talking to people outside a mosque, and I certainly don't think he comports himself well. | ||
| No. | ||
| He does call, I mean, not in the video that he plays, but he does very clearly cop to calling a dude a sissy. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Which I don't think is like... | ||
| That's not that, there's worse. | ||
| That's a playground kind of insult. | ||
| I don't think that's enough to get you deported. | ||
| It's better than an American using a, like, sand N-word, which is something that happens all the time. | ||
| And in that Sasha Baron Cohen. | ||
| Oh, did it? | ||
| Yeah, someone drops that. | ||
| Great. | ||
| So one of the things that we have to wrestle with, and this is something we talk about in terms of the United Kingdom quite a bit because of Tommy Robinson's bullshit, is that Australians don't have the same laws that we do because they're a different country. | ||
| From an article... | ||
| Just to remind all the info warriors out there, there are other countries. | ||
| Yeah, so from an article in SBS, quote, Do Australians already have freedom? | ||
| Do they have freedom of speech? | ||
| And if so, what does that really mean to our day-to-day lives legally? | ||
| Despite all the debate in the past two years about free speech, it's not a right that's protected under our Constitution. | ||
| In fact, the only social freedom that's guaranteed is religion. | ||
| Australia doesn't have a Bill of Rights, which is where free speech usually gets defined and protected in most Western democracies. | ||
| It's neither incorporated in any federal legislation. | ||
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Free speech has never been about saying what you want and being protected from the consequences of what you say. | |
| In fact, Australia does have laws regarding free speech, but they're all concerned with limitations and protections. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So that is the position of Australia in terms of their government and free speech, which I think is fairly sensible. | |
| There are also protections that have come into place through court cases about political speech being protected and that sort of thing. | ||
| So there are some things, but they're not like the same way that we have it embedded in our First Amendment. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's such an obsession that we have that we refuse to legislate it at all. | ||
| There's a way to go that is Like, you don't have to be Australia, you don't have to be, but you also don't have to be Turkey, you know? | ||
| Like, you shouldn't be, I don't know. | ||
| My feeling on free speech ultimately comes down to, like, swear jar levels of, like, if you're a dick often enough, I reserve the right to kick you out. | ||
| Like, that to me seems, like, if you're an abuser of free speech, then get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Get gone, you know? | ||
| But if you're just free speechin', man, that's fine. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| It's hard to find the line. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Six N-words and you're out. | ||
| That's my rule. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| So Alex is saying that people are saying that he was mean to sissy Muslims, and that's the media spin. | ||
| Here's a quote from him on Radio Live. | ||
| Quote, it proves that they are sissies, the Muslims, because instead of having an interview with us, they had to ring the media. | ||
| They had to call police just because they don't want their religion exposed for what it is. | ||
| So he's going around with the camera and trying to be like, hey, Muhammad had sex with a minor. | ||
| All that stuff. | ||
| That's basically... | ||
| I mean, well, yeah, but so did all the old-timey guys you like. | ||
| Pretty much everyone in the Old Testament. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I don't know, man. | ||
| Yeah, you hate Muhammad, but you're like, Paul probably didn't fuck a minor. | ||
| And it's like, well, he got married to a 12-year-old, so fucking, you know, suck a dick. | ||
| I think his behavior is shit, but at the same time, I don't have any interest in telling... | ||
| Australia what to do. | ||
| So whatever. | ||
| You guys play by your rules. | ||
| I don't fully understand your government or your justice system. | ||
| Or your football. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Australian rules. | ||
| I don't even know what's going on. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So what I do understand is this. | ||
| Quote, Logan Peterson had the option to appeal his deportation, but chose not to. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because he knows that this is the best thing that could ever happen to him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He doesn't want to fucking try and be like, no, I stand for my rights. | ||
| I'm going to stay here. | ||
| He opted to waive the ability to appeal it because he wants to be deported. | ||
| He wants to have the victim status that Alex gets from these slap on the wrist punishments from social media sites. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| All of these fucking conservative, weirdo, bigot, asshole propagandists beg to be punished. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In some way, because that validates the victim status that they've been faking the whole time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's the same boat that this dickhole is in. | ||
| Great, guys. | ||
| We created a great system, everybody. | ||
| Let's wrap it up and go home. | ||
| So now Alex is interviewing this guy, Logan Peterson. | ||
| One of the things that's really fun, and I think that this, the reason I kept this clip in is, I mean, they say some disgraceful things about Islam, but that's not new. | ||
| Do we get to hear his accent, though? | ||
| A little bit, but we also get to hear something that, if you're an eagle-eared listener, you'll know that Alex, when it gets to about the second hour, usually has an interview, and while the other person is talking, he's eating lunch. | ||
| You can kind of tell here at the beginning of the clip. | ||
| He's taking a bite of the sandwich. | ||
| And kind of wants, like, you roll with this. | ||
| Roll with this. | ||
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I'm chewing. | |
| Describe what it's like, though, to watch this invasion and just other observations. | ||
| He's got a little something in his cheek. | ||
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New Zealand is not as bad, but Australia, you know, they let Muslims in, you know, just freely. | |
| What? | ||
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I believe there's 600,000 Muslims in. | |
| Certainly don't let them in by boat. | ||
| That's against the rules in Australia. | ||
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In Australia now. | |
| And there's about 20, 24 million people. | ||
| But it's increasing day by day. | ||
| They're bringing in all the Muslim refugees, and parts of Sydney is pretty much Sharia law. | ||
| I don't believe you. | ||
| Sydney has Sharia law. | ||
| I don't believe it. | ||
| You know that famous place, Sydney? | ||
| It got covered in Sharia law. | ||
| So much Sharia law. | ||
| The opera house has to wear a polka. | ||
| Oh, that's Sharia law! | ||
| It's covering that upper house left and right! | ||
| Nuts. | ||
| That upper house looks like tits. | ||
| Can't be allowed out there. | ||
| No way. | ||
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Uh-uh. | |
| No way. | ||
| Looks like weird metal tits. | ||
| So, yeah, I've heard repeatedly from folks that Australia... | ||
| And this is something that came up in that Malcolm... | ||
| Is it Malcolm? | ||
| The Turnbull prime minister conversation that he had with Trump when Trump first got here. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Australia just has a blanket rule where they don't accept people by boat. | ||
| So if you come and you show up by boat, no matter what your status is, they take you and put you back. | ||
| They're like, you have to get out. | ||
| And it's just a law that they've had that we don't accept people coming here by boat. | ||
| How long have they had that law? | ||
| I think it's been a part of it for a while. | ||
| But that's clearly a specific... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's a way to never have the conversation. | ||
| Yeah, if you can't fly there, that suggests you can't afford to fly there. | ||
| Which means that they're keeping out people who can't afford to fly there. | ||
| Which is a very specific reason to have a no boats... | ||
| What? | ||
| It's fine if you take a train to Australia? | ||
| Fuck off! | ||
| No, sure. | ||
| That's a legitimately targeting law. | ||
| Yeah, to some extent, but it is one of their laws. | ||
| I can't argue with it. | ||
| It's their business. | ||
| If you live in Australia and you're one of our listeners and you don't like it... | ||
| I'll second that. | ||
| But that's your business. | ||
| Chances are you hate Malcolm Turnbull. | ||
| If you live in Australia and you listen to us, you are not a fan of your government right now. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So anyway, Alex gets to a hot question. | ||
| Hot question here that he wants to ask. | ||
| We're about to go to break. | ||
| We're going to play some of these clips when we come back. | ||
| Pretty powerful stuff. | ||
| But let me ask you this. | ||
| Am I wrong to say from what I read and what I hear that Australia and New Zealand are starting to wake up, though? | ||
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Yeah, I believe there's a lot of people that are waking up to this and hearing the truth about that it is a wicked false religion. | |
| At the moment, they might be a little peaceful in our countries, but when they get their numbers up, you can see, like in England, they will start rioting. | ||
| They will start causing a lot of problems. | ||
| And they're used by the leftists. | ||
| They're brought in to do that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's what the leftists do. | ||
| This dude, Pastor Robertson, is saying some fucked up stuff there. | ||
| And Alex, his response is, you bet. | ||
| Does he have a church? | ||
| We'll get to that in a second. | ||
| Ah, okay. | ||
| I was going to say, you keep calling him Pastor Robertson, and then he got deported. | ||
| I keep missing that word. | ||
| Robertson. | ||
| And then he gets deported, so does he go back to a different church? | ||
| I think he might have a small church and then an online thing. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| He's got a congregation and a scam. | ||
| We'll get to an accusation about him here in a second that I think is important. | ||
| But first, I just think that the rhetoric that they're putting out is that, yes, Muslims are fine now, but once there's more of them, look out. | ||
| That's what's going to happen. | ||
| Which is so much what Alex said earlier. | ||
| This is a really cancerous piece of rhetoric that all it does is encourage... | ||
| Like, whiteness. | ||
| That's all it is. | ||
| The only thing that's safe is more white people being around. | ||
| You can't trust people who are different because they will always team up together and kill you. | ||
| Which is one of the big reasons that I am furious at people for being like, well, climate change is going to be a problem in 2050 or 2070 or whatever. | ||
| This is a part of climate change. | ||
| This is exactly it. | ||
| Every refugee, the more refugees we have, the more destabilized other countries are because of assholes like this shit. | ||
| That's why we wind up having this shit. | ||
| Of course you should accept refugees! | ||
| Of course you should! | ||
| They have fought and clawed and fucking everything they could do to get away from a situation where they will literally die. | ||
| And you're like, oh, well you can't let them in because they might change things. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You're a pile of shit. | ||
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Fair enough. | |
| Because what you don't understand is they all just want to kill you. | ||
| Oh, I didn't know that. | ||
| I didn't know that they were running away from the people that you're actually afraid of because those people are trying to kill them. | ||
| It might also be sort of like a latent colonialist feeling within people like Alex. | ||
| Which is ironic for Australia to have. | ||
| He's New Zealand. | ||
| Well, I was talking about the boat thing. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| But there is sort of like a feeling of like, that's what we would do. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| No, you're absolutely right. | ||
| There's a sense of, like, if we could get away with doing that, we would kill all of them. | ||
| So why aren't we afraid of the fact that if there's more of them, they're going to kill us? | ||
| Again, white people might be aliens. | ||
| It's always a battle between people who look different. | ||
| Always. | ||
| Society is always that, according to them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And, like, why are you giving up the presumed advantage? | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's fucking stupid. | ||
| It's very dangerous. | ||
| I mean, crazily enough, imagine if Africa had been the same way when white people showed up. | ||
| If they had gone fucking bug fuck and been like, we gotta get these people out of here, maybe we have a whole different world. | ||
| It seems like it's only white people. | ||
| Bob Chapman would be poorer. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It seems like white people are the only people who have the first thought of like, well, obviously they'd do what we would do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is kill everybody that's different from us. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| As opposed to what they've always done, which is accept us in open arms, which is why we're able to kill everybody that we want to. | ||
| Trojan horse that shit. | ||
| And that's probably where this mentality comes from that they're expressing. | ||
| That's a great point. | ||
| That's a great point. | ||
| And hey, guys, that right there is as bad as any of those videos that got taken down from Alex's channel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That right there. | ||
| This guest being allowed to and Alex agreeing with him when he says more Muslims are going to show up and then they're going to start rioting. | ||
| Oh, and then Alex comes in. | ||
| The Democrats want them to do that. | ||
| That's as bigoted. | ||
| That's as bad as anything in those videos that got him taken down. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, hey, there's another strike, YouTube. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know, what are you going to do? | ||
| He's going to keep doing this and keep posting those fucking videos. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Grow up. | ||
| So, anyway, you know. | ||
| There's a chance from Knowledge Fight to YouTube. | ||
| Grow up, guys. | ||
| There's a chance, though, that the media's got all of it wrong about this guy, this Pastor Robertson. | ||
| We're talking to Pastor Logan Robertson, who has been so demonized, so misrepresented with what he's done. | ||
| So he's been misrepresented. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| I know zero about the guy, and I already disagree. | ||
| I'd like to read to you from a 2017 article in the New Zealand Herald. | ||
| Quote, My view on homo marriage is that the Bible... | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Is it the Bible... | ||
| No, no. | ||
| This is going to be a rollercoaster for you. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| This is going to be real rough. | ||
| It's going to get way worse. | ||
| My view on homo marriage is that the Bible never mentions it, so I'm not against them getting married, Robertson says. | ||
| Now it's crazy. | ||
| Quote, as long as a bullet goes through their head the moment they kiss. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| What? | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| I told you it's a roller coaster. | ||
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Wait, what? | |
| Neighbors. | ||
| All right. | ||
| He's fine with them getting married. | ||
| Quote, as long as a bullet goes through their head the moment they kiss. | ||
| Because that's what it talks about. | ||
| Not homo marriage, but homo death. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I disagree with him. | ||
| Yeah, I'd hope. | ||
| It's more, if you want to go full-on Deuteronomy, or no, it would be Leviticus, I think. | ||
| It would more be like, not the moment they kiss, but the moment they lay down in a bed together. | ||
| Like, if they're fucking standing up, the Bible doesn't say shit about that! | ||
| It doesn't really talk about foreplay. | ||
| Uh-uh! | ||
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No, no, no! | |
| You can blow a dude all you want. | ||
| The Bible has nothing to do with that. | ||
| I'm not sure about that. | ||
| Some of the stuff in the Gnostic scriptures and Dead Sea Scrolls are pretty clear about... | ||
| About blowing dudes? | ||
| Where you can put cum. | ||
| You know what's... | ||
| Onan. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you know what's even crazier? | ||
| Like, strangely enough, the Muslims? | ||
| Kind of fine with blowing dudes. | ||
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This... | |
| It's kind of a thing that's cool. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| I'm going to talk more about how awful Logan Robertson is here. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| So there's this writer named Jim Marjoram. | ||
| He'd written a book about his struggle with his sexuality as a member of a fundamentalist church. | ||
| He had written this book as a way to try and help people who were in a similar position to him. | ||
| It gave coping strategies. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Also sort of resources. | ||
| And he ran a support group called Silent Gays. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because before that, he was in a Pray the Gay Away group. | ||
| And he had been married for a number of years. | ||
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Poor bastard. | |
| And his wife passed away. | ||
| And after that point, he realized, what am I struggling against? | ||
| This is not going away. | ||
| This is who I am. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so he wrote this book to try and help people who were in a similar position to him. | ||
| He's a man who's doing good, which I assume must be punished by these fucking assholes going wild. | ||
| So he reached out to a bunch of churches as a means of promoting his book, which, like I said, doubles as a strategy guide for men in the same situation he's in. | ||
| Unfortunately, Robertson's church was Oh, no. | ||
| From a 2014 article in the New Zealand Herald, Robertson's response email said, quote, we are not interested in your filthy lifestyle or book. | ||
| The Bible says you're vile, strange, queer, reprobate, filth, sodomite, natural brute beasts made to be taken and destroyed. | ||
| I pray that you commit suicide, you filthy child molesting fag. | ||
| That was published? | ||
| No, that was an email that got published. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| And then he was asked about it, and his response was, yeah, I said that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Me. | ||
| I didn't tell him to commit suicide. | ||
| I just said I was going to pray that he did. | ||
| That was his response. | ||
| This guy is a fucking asshole. | ||
| This guy's a monster. | ||
| That's an interesting distinction to make. | ||
| This guy is a fucking huge monster. | ||
| He is a horrible, horrible person. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So... | |
| It's a good thing that's isolated in the evangelical community, and we never see that anywhere else. | ||
| Oh, New Zealand. | ||
| Good thing it's over there, and we don't have to deal with it. | ||
| So this is all about, again, still about Alex saying that he's being misrepresented. | ||
| He's misrepresented! | ||
| So the Baptist Churches of New Zealand has said the following about Logan Robertson. | ||
| "Fuck that guy!" The Baptist churches of New Zealand are in no way connected with or affirm in any way the comments made by a self-proclaimed pastor Logan Robertson of Westside Bible Baptist Church. | ||
| The New Zealand Baptist Union of churches are appalled by the comments of hatred and evil made by Pastor Robertson. | ||
| Unfortunately, the Baptist name is not a franchise. | ||
| The name can be taken by any group or person that wishes to use this long-standing name to identify themselves. | ||
| In the case of Pastor Logan Robertson, He is not an ordained or registered pastor of any denomination. | ||
| He does not have a congregation or church building or meeting space. | ||
| He's established a church website, thereby claiming to be a church. | ||
| Now, I was in 2014. | ||
| There's a chance that he had, like, established a space after that, but also, I don't believe he's been ordained, except if it's like, I'm ordained. | ||
| Like, I'm ordained by the New Life Church. | ||
| I mean, at the same time, that's all it really is. | ||
| Like, it's just, like, at the end of the day, it's just like... | ||
| If you go to seminary, it's just like, read the Bible, and then you're like, yeah! | ||
| Still gotta pass some tests. | ||
| You still gotta pass some tests, but come on. | ||
| They're Bible tests. | ||
| It's like passing a test. | ||
| It's like going to a real-life Hogwarts and them being like, you're a wizard. | ||
| You know the difference, I would say, is very real? | ||
| Level of commitment. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| If you go through the work that you have to take years of classes in seminary in order to get, it means you at least mean it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whereas if you're just like, nah, fuck it, I'm a pastor now. | ||
| Hey, fags suck. | ||
| That's enough to make you a pastor in America, though. | ||
| Or in New Zealand. | ||
| Or in New Zealand. | ||
| But that to me means you don't mean it. | ||
| You're just, you're looking for a space. | ||
| You've got nothing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's good stuff. | ||
| It's good stuff. | ||
| So, fellow hate preacher and past InfoWars guest who has since then come out and said that InfoWars is full of shit, Steve Anderson, who we went over in an episode. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| He welcomed Logan Robertson to a revival-type conference in 2016. | ||
| He wrote the following about it in his blog. | ||
| We had a full house again for the Saturday preaching service and Pastor Logan Robertson preached a short sermon on how to be filled with the spirit. | ||
| He preached hard against drinking and didn't hold anything back when he called out YouTubers Afshin and Marshall for their bizarre teaching on alcohol. | ||
| Not only that, but hearing Pastor Robertson say fag and queer in his New Zealand accent was classic. | ||
| Ah, classic! | ||
| What a load of asshole. | ||
| So, I don't think that anybody is misrepresenting Mr. Robinson. | ||
| Robertson, I think he's a fucking monster. | ||
| And, hey, if I were a country, I wouldn't want him in me. | ||
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Nah. | |
| I'd be fine with that. | ||
| I would like that spirit out of me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would like to not be filled with that spirit. | ||
| So now Alex plays this clip of him harassing Muslims. | ||
| And I'd like to just play this and let you respond. | ||
| Anytime you say that, I know I'm not going to feel good. | ||
| Well, I don't know if you'll feel terrible. | ||
| I mean, I just think that there's not much going on here. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| I think that there's adults responding to a child with a camera is kind of what's going on. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let's go ahead and finish up with this clip. | ||
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We didn't accuse him. | |
| How did we count? | ||
| Is that abusive? | ||
| You come to his place of worship. | ||
| I mean, why did nobody invited you to come here? | ||
| You didn't make an appointment to go to Karabi Mosque. | ||
| You turned out with four blocks. | ||
| And you confirmed a 15-year-old kid and a 65-year-old man. | ||
| You put him on the spot. | ||
| We're filming you. | ||
| We don't film him. | ||
| That's what you're doing. | ||
| We're seeing the videos about the videos. | ||
| Did you call him a terrorist? | ||
| I did not call him a terrorist. | ||
| Show me the video. | ||
| I'm certain he did. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
|
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So you're lying now. | |
| You went into the mosque. | ||
| Show us the video. | ||
| You went into the mosque. | ||
| What was your purpose of going to the mosque? | ||
| We were setting up interviews for our new documentary. | ||
| What documentary? | ||
|
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You need permission to go to a private property like you need permission to come here. | |
| You don't have permission to go to a private property. | ||
| You don't have permission like it's a police state. | ||
| So it goes on from there. | ||
| The Islamicists know they've got the government backing, the media backing. | ||
| Why are you saying they're Islamists? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There's nothing about this mosque that's in any way like, they're harboring terrorists and we suspect that. | ||
| They're not even saying that. | ||
| They just hate Muslims. | ||
| That's all this is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There's nothing going on here that, like, we're going to make an expose documentary about something other than... | ||
| I mean, the only thing that's revealed is, I fucking hate Muslims. | ||
| That's the only thing that Robertson is revealing in any way. | ||
| Are they making a documentary about an event? | ||
| Are they making a documentary about something that is perhaps, like, is it a specific subject? | ||
| No, it's about their fear of Muslims and about how they're really hung up on the idea that Muhammad had a child bride. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| So they're making a documentary wherein they go to a mosque. | ||
| That has nobody affiliated with it, that has done anything. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nobody bothering anybody. | ||
| I really think they would bring that up. | ||
| Nobody doing or saying anything other than just, like, being a mosque. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, they literally just went to a mosque and knocked on the door and said, we hate you. | ||
| More or less, yeah. | ||
| And you're a sissy. | ||
| Yeah, and you're a sissy. | ||
| And you probably called him a terrorist, but it's not on camera. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So the other, I mean, like, really, if we want to really slice through the bullshit. | ||
| Tommy Robinson's in prison, and Alex needs another guy with an accent who hates Muslims. | ||
| That's what's going on here, and he's got to, you know, go to the bench. | ||
| Yeah, but you know what? | ||
| He's right. | ||
| He does need another guy with an accent who hates Muslims. | ||
| He tried to get some of Tommy Robinson's contemporaries in the UK, and none of them had it. | ||
| None of them were committed enough to their bigotry. | ||
| This dude is way in. | ||
| This guy has committed a lot of time. | ||
| Based on his 2014 behaviors, he has the bona fides to be an InfoWars guest for sure. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And so, like, look. | ||
| I mean, look. | ||
| You're making a documentary. | ||
| I don't believe you. | ||
| You're agitating. | ||
| You're trying to create a... | ||
| Like, you're trying to do a jackass, but with pissing off Muslims or something like that. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| And when you say things like in this next clip, I really don't think that I'm going to take your position as sincere. | ||
| Europe's not even for Europeans now. | ||
| I mean, that's what we're told. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| I mean, they just announced yesterday the U.N. wants 600 million people to enter the U.S. in the next 10 years. | ||
| And they're going to organize them into the weapons system, a two-to-one vote, to totally enslave everybody. | ||
| I don't understand what you're saying. | ||
| 600 million people is ludicrous. | ||
| Wait, did he say 600 million? | ||
| He did. | ||
| In the next 10 years, 600 million people. | ||
| I just must have ripped that out because I assumed that he said 600,000. | ||
| Because that seemed almost like a reasonable number. | ||
| No. | ||
| Do you want me to go back? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| On 600 million people. | ||
| That's bananas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| So if I understand correctly, the UN just called for one-tenth of the world's population to move to the United States? | ||
| To triple the population of the United States. | ||
| The UN did just put out an estimate. | ||
| That's a great workforce. | ||
| We could use that. | ||
| Think of the fucking building that would need to go up. | ||
| Housing. | ||
| So much housing. | ||
| Everybody would have jobs. | ||
| Could use some of this unused land. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| So the... | ||
| The UN did put out an estimate of like 68 million people were displaced in 2017. | ||
| So what I think Alex is doing is assuming that that means that they want us to take them all for 10 years. | ||
| Assuming that that many people will be displaced every year. | ||
| I think that's what he's doing. | ||
| But no one's saying that. | ||
| You're giving him a lot of credit for math, and I disagree. | ||
| Well, because I looked for 600 million people to the United States, U.S. I used all sorts of combinations of words. | ||
| You did everything you could. | ||
| I couldn't find anything other than them estimating that 68 million people were displaced in 2017. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that's the only... | ||
| And when I try and figure out what's the warped propaganda math of this, that's the only thing I can come up with. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I know that no one is pitching that. | ||
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No. | |
| That's absurd. | ||
| That's a strange pitch, if they are. | ||
| Even the most ardent people who are like, let's take folks in, still aren't saying, let's bring in 600 million. | ||
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I think I've legitimately said we shouldn't have borders. | |
| But when you say 600 million people should come to the United States, there's a part of me that's like, hmm. | ||
| That might be too many. | ||
| Just from a logistical standpoint. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| I don't think that we have the carrying capacity for that within our economy, within just our infrastructure. | ||
| I think we can carry a lot more than we are, but tripling it in 10 years is an absurd... | ||
| Send them all to Nebraska. | ||
| There's so many things you would need to do in order to accommodate that. | ||
| I think it's possible, but it's almost impossible. | ||
| I want two senators from Nebraska, and I want... | ||
| 450 House representatives from Nebraska. | ||
| I want all $600 million right there, and I want to make sure that they control every voting bloc except for the Senate. | ||
| That's the trick. | ||
| It's a wild, wild propaganda line. | ||
| The Electoral College would get real weird if that was the case. | ||
| So Alex made a prediction on the Thursday show that General Kelly is going to get fired within the week. | ||
| So we can look for that. | ||
| And then Alex in this next clip makes another prediction that, you know, it pivots pretty quick. | ||
| It's all being planned towards this fall for a big crisis, and that's why they want to censor those of us that are exposing it. | ||
| The fall of rage is coming. | ||
| We know this prediction. | ||
| We've heard it a million times. | ||
| No, we've never heard that the fall of rage is coming. | ||
| Well, he was predicting the summer of rage in 2018. | ||
| Well, the summer of rage always comes. | ||
| We're already at the end of July. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| August is probably not going to be too exciting. | ||
| Fall of rage. | ||
| We've also seen him do that over the course of years where summer is waning on. | ||
| It's like, wow, this winter is going to be fucked up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, it's going to actually just be the winter of our discontent. | ||
| It's not really going to be rage. | ||
| It's going to be more like a malaise. | ||
| It's always something. | ||
| It's always just around the corner. | ||
| Seasons. | ||
| Because they want this to take place. | ||
| So the country is in grave danger. | ||
| And I can sit up here with a nice smile about all this and everything. | ||
| But you don't just think Trump getting in was the beginning of the victory. | ||
| That's not going to happen once we take action. | ||
| Trump winning was not the victory, it was the beginning. | ||
| And the globalists now are awake, they're making their move, and it's very sad to watch them in the footage I've got of black people beating up white people in California yesterday, and Hispanics attacking whites, and just believing it's okay because you like America, F America. | ||
| How they were trained to hate the country they want to be part of is the mind control and the essence of evil. | ||
| Please don't forget we've got the new amazing krill oil, fish oil, and roll call for China. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| Pretty smooth. | ||
| What even is krill oil? | ||
| It's like fish oil. | ||
| No, I know what krill is. | ||
| I know what oil is. | ||
| I don't know what he thinks he's selling. | ||
| He's selling some bullshit. | ||
| I don't know when you put those two words together what that is supposed to be advantageous for. | ||
| Eh, brain function. | ||
| Whales eat krill, and whales are big, so krill oil is... | ||
| You take krill oil, you'll be able to sing like a whale. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| I just love that. | ||
| I buy that. | ||
| I just love that because it's like, hey, white people are getting beat up by various races. | ||
| Hold on, we got a special. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because he heard that music coming to take him out to break. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was like, I'm going to add pivot and break some kids' necks with this fucking pivot. | ||
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Damn. | |
| That was harsh. | ||
| That was a twist. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I can't get enough of that. | ||
| It's so invalidating. | ||
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It's so stupid. | |
| We should do an episode where it's just those. | ||
| Like, just grab as many... | ||
| Best of ad pivots? | ||
| Just grab as many ad pivots as you can, and we're just going to roll with each one of them. | ||
| But the problem is... | ||
| See exactly if we... | ||
| Like, here's what we do. | ||
| There's no way... | ||
| We guess how many words into it it takes to get to the ad pivot. | ||
| But we've heard all of them already that we've gone over. | ||
| I mean, there's hundreds of them in my catalog. | ||
| Yeah, there's way more. | ||
| But to do that, you would not be surprised by them anymore, because we know we're doing an episode of ad pivot. | ||
| But that's the point. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's when we're doing a name that tune kind of situation. | ||
| I think he's going to go three seconds. | ||
| Exactly, exactly. | ||
| Pivot that ad. | ||
| The new game show with Alex Jones. | ||
| No whammies, no whammies! | ||
| Ooh, we went four seconds. | ||
| Sorry, you busted. | ||
| No, you busted. | ||
| So yeah, I don't know. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| It's just standard-ass Alex. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Trying to really get white fear going and then pivot it really hard into selling. | ||
| We haven't been in the present day with Alex for a while, to the point where, going back in time... | ||
| Also, if they kick him off YouTube, that kills our roulette. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| We'll find a way around it. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| We haven't seen, like, in 2009, or even with Jim Baker and Carrie Cassidy, we've been doing a lot of different things. | ||
| But when you go into present-day Alex, the racism is so stark. | ||
| It's very, very overt. | ||
| It's not hidden. | ||
| It's not dog-whistly. | ||
| It's literally just, we can't let brown people in. | ||
| We're afraid that white people will be hurt by this. | ||
| And there's almost an implication through the... | ||
| He's saying that... | ||
| Like, the globalists and the liberals have brainwashed the existing minority population. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But there's also a kernel of it that is like, we were stupid to let them in to begin with. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| There is a feeling of, we've already gone too far. | ||
| Whites for whites. | ||
| Europeans, not even for Europeans anymore. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That sort of shit. | ||
| They're not even American. | ||
| Why do you care? | ||
| Oh, because they're traditionally white. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| But, yeah, it's... | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| It's hard to listen to, you know, on a lot of levels because, sure, he's not dropping ends, you know, or whatever. | ||
| He's not saying, I hate black people, anything like that. | ||
| But everything he's saying, almost everything he's saying, is darkly, darkly and deeply racist. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's too... | ||
| Stupid. | ||
| Terrifyingly so. | ||
| But you know, this is another piece of some of the danger of kicking him off of these platforms and stuff like that. | ||
| And it's another further danger of giving him superficial, lame punishments. | ||
| Is that what you end up doing is driving him further towards the worst part of what he already is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because if he does end up getting kicked off, let's say, YouTube or Facebook, permanently... | ||
| He has nothing else. | ||
| He has no fucking skin in the game. | ||
| Like, let's pretend that he does make all his money off selling his own supplements or whatever. | ||
| He has no ads to really worry about or any of that shit. | ||
| So why wouldn't he veer even further down the white nationalist path? | ||
| Like, why wouldn't he? | ||
| Because he's already very obviously that guy. | ||
| And has been for a long time. | ||
| Perhaps the only thing that's keeping him from being... | ||
| Like an outright David Duke type persona is the fear of losing his social media platforms. | ||
| So if you take away that, then maybe you get to see the mask drop and him be like, look, I've been hamstrung by social media for a long time. | ||
| I've been trying to make it clear, but I haven't been able to. | ||
| Look, this is a white country, and that is what I care about. | ||
| But I think you hit the nail on the head earlier in the episode when you said that those places are... | ||
| By definition, so exclusionary that you're not going to get the same audience. | ||
| No, totally. | ||
| Like, he can't be kicked off of YouTube and Facebook because even if he does still survive, his revenue will go way down. | ||
| Unless there is dark money and that sort of thing. | ||
| And who knows if that kind of thing is not going to leave him. | ||
| But if dark money is there, dark money isn't interested in Stormfront. | ||
| They might be. | ||
| Well, I mean, I'm sure they are, but not to the same financing level that I think people who are on YouTube and Facebook still get. | ||
| Here's what you're not taking into account. | ||
| Bees. | ||
| Bees. | ||
| Bees are always a factor that you forget. | ||
| My girl. | ||
| So the thing that you're not taking into account is that world, the Stormfront world, the Gab world, that sort of stuff. | ||
| What they lack, chiefly, is... | ||
| A really charismatic front man. | ||
| And if Alex gets pushed into a corner, he could just sort of drop all pretenses and be that. | ||
| David Duke doesn't even really have the charisma that an Alex Jones has. | ||
| You can't imagine the danger that Alex Jones could present if he didn't have those things to worry about. | ||
| Let's imagine a scenario where he loses his kids. | ||
| Whatever pretext you have, the answer is Waco, but really big. | ||
| Or just a rhetorical way. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| But you could have a situation where he ends up losing custody of his children. | ||
| At the same time, he's kicked off the social media platforms that reigned in the rhetoric to some extent. | ||
| You could see him go hog wild into just becoming the next Metzger, you know, like that leader of the white nationalist movement neo-Nazi shit. | ||
| You could... | ||
| I'm not saying... | ||
| Not Kurt Metzger. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| I can't remember the guy's first name. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Bald dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, no, I know who you're talking about. | ||
| I just want to be clear. | ||
| I'm not saying that that's necessarily the path that it would go down, but it's a really dangerous possibility. | ||
| Because, you know... | ||
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You just wrote a great movie, alright? | |
| Propagandist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Backed into a corner. | ||
| Down on his luck. | ||
| Nothing to lose. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Finds new success. | ||
| Builds it eventually into a thing that cannot be stopped. | ||
| Eventually, the movement goes outside of his control. | ||
| He has a change of heart, tries to fight back, is then cannibalized by his own movement. | ||
| His redemption arc doesn't exist. | ||
| He's a fucking monster and he dies miserably. | ||
| That's our movie! | ||
| It's a great movie! | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Sold. | ||
| Sounds indie as hell. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't think that that's the most likely outcome, but it's definitely one I see as being, like... | ||
| A possibility. | ||
| Certainly logistically possible, given the players and given the tendencies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know for sure. | ||
| Who knows what tomorrow will bring. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But who knows. | ||
| So we got a couple more clips left, and it's with the health ranger, Mike Adams. | ||
| I cannot believe he's still around. | ||
| He is. | ||
| And he comes in for a very specific reason that I will get to after this clip. | ||
| The president's listening. | ||
| Great job, Mike Adams, getting a report out. | ||
| If people want a blueprint, I can't believe that other people didn't put a blueprint out. | ||
| I can't believe that I literally got asked by high-level people in the government to do this. | ||
| Do you think it makes me feel good that, oh, I'm special, they're asking us to do it? | ||
| No, it scares the living hell out of me that no one else seems to give a crap! | ||
| And that's why they want to shut down, because we know what pieces of filth they are, and we have the answers to defeat them. | ||
| The realization from this, Alex, that you are alluding to, is that no one is coming to save us. | ||
| There's not some great deity out there that's going to save us from this political situation. | ||
| We have to stand up and save ourselves. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
| I thought your deity was God, and he was going to save you. | ||
| Like, literally. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| There is no deity. | ||
| There's no God coming to... | ||
| I mean, what? | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Kind of talk about God all the damn time on the show as a God will save us, but all right, whatever. | ||
| All right, fine. | ||
| You want to sell out your own religious beliefs? | ||
| That's your business. | ||
| The reason that Mike's on is that Mike Adams put out a 62-page treatise Oh boy, you're shaking your head. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| Did he nail it to the wall of the Catholic Church? | ||
| He might as well if he posted it on naturalnews.com. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| Basically. | ||
| Mike, Martin Luther Adams of our time. | ||
| Six of one, half dozen of the other, same bit of business. | ||
| So he wrote this thing and it's the mainstream media's... | ||
| Their battle plan decoded. | ||
| That's the sort of theme of it. | ||
| That's the long end. | ||
| It's good that he decoded it for us. | ||
| Anytime anybody tells me they're decoding something, I'm going to tell you, I don't. | ||
| I'm not into it. | ||
| Seems decoded. | ||
| So this is called... | ||
| Decoded fanning. | ||
| The censorship master plan decoded, and then in parentheses, i.e., the Adams Report. | ||
| The blueprint for how tech giants covertly silence online speech and how America can fight back against corporate tech monopolists. | ||
| By Mike Adams, founder, naturalnews.com, censored.news, reel.video. | ||
| Counterthink.com. | ||
| Naturalpedia.com. | ||
| And 300 plus more websites. | ||
| Naturalpedia.com? | ||
|
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I don't know. | |
| Fill in host for Alex Jones of Infowars.com. | ||
| Peer-reviewed science paper author. | ||
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Ah! | |
| We got one peer-reviewed science paper. | ||
| I'm gonna need an asterisk on that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm gonna need to see a citation. | ||
| Citation needed. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, it's got more... | ||
| More credits after that. | ||
| It's a load of nonsense. | ||
| So I made the mistake of reading this. | ||
| That was a bad idea. | ||
| I have approximately 15 pages of notes that I took over the course of it, which we're not going to go into now. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| But I will probably post a breakdown of this by Sunday or so. | ||
| I'll post this on the website, really breaking down what he's trying to do here. | ||
| And what he's trying to do is... | ||
| Pitch this idea. | ||
| The main thesis of it is essentially that there's a conspiracy between the mainstream media, what he calls the liberal tech giants, and fact-checking sites like PolitiFact or Snopes, that they're all in conspiracy together to shut down conservative speech. | ||
| This seems like it would track, except for the lack of evidence that the mainstream media or tech giants are actually doing anything. | ||
| I don't know of any tech giants that are liberal in any sense. | ||
| No, certainly not. | ||
| I don't know of any of them. | ||
| No, it doesn't seem that way. | ||
| Also, the other problem is that these fact-checking sites are not really on the side of liberal stuff. | ||
| Like, if you go to PolitiFact or if you go to Snopes, you'll see very many instances of them breaking down liberal-leaning lies. | ||
| They're kind of more dedicated to people just saying real. | ||
| Say real things. | ||
| They're very much... | ||
| They debunk both sides. | ||
| They're very much in my camp of like, if you want to talk about reality, let's talk about... | ||
| If your policy is like... | ||
| I think tax cuts will benefit the economy. | ||
| And mine is, I don't think tax cuts are going to benefit the economy. | ||
| That's a conversation we can have. | ||
| If your policy is like, I think we should make sure that parents and children are never allowed near each other, then that's not a thing that you can have a conversation with. | ||
| Politifact is all about just like, say things that are real! | ||
| Otherwise, go the fuck away! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the long and short of this, because I don't want to spend like an hour talking about all of the bullshit that's in here. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's just constant, undefended statements. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's just like assertions that don't pan out to like anything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, these tech giants are liberal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's that, and there's no proof of it. | ||
| There's no evidence given at any point. | ||
| Don't eat it. | ||
| It's just conspiratorial nonsense, and it's written like an eighth-grade paper. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's really, really poorly written to the point where I was fact-checking and like... | ||
| At the top of my notes, it's really sincere, like, well, the problem with this is X, Y, and Z. And then towards the end, I'm like, Mike, what the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| Like, I start to get mad at him in my notes. | ||
| You have broken my spirit, Mike! | ||
| I start to refer to him in the second person. | ||
| I'm like, what are you talking about? | ||
| You motherfucking idiot. | ||
| As if we're IMing each other. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| So there's one thing, though. | ||
| There's a trend that goes through this that I think is really important to point out. | ||
| And I'll just read you this paragraph that I think is a mess. | ||
| There was a time in America when one specific group of people was told to sit at the back of the bus. | ||
| Certain cafes were reserved for whites only, and people were judged and punished based on the color of their skin. | ||
| Online censorship by tech giants now judges people based on the color of their thoughts. | ||
| And conservatives, Trump supporters, and advocates of natural health content are overtly told, we don't serve your kind here. | ||
| An obvious throwback to the era of... | ||
| I like the natural health part. | ||
| Right, that's a little petty. | ||
| You threw that one in there? | ||
| That's a little bit weird. | ||
| That's a little like... | ||
| It's like, that's... | ||
| That's about me. | ||
| And they don't like natural health. | ||
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Right. | |
| Okay, all right. | ||
| That's a throwback to an era of discrimination and intolerance that Americans have roundly rejected. | ||
| So the part that I really want to draw sharp focus to is I was like, holy shit, the color of their thoughts. | ||
| I think that you're proud of that as a turn of phrase. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he keeps using it. | ||
| Like, to the point where it's like, oh. | ||
| You get one use of that. | ||
| And he also complains so much around the times when he uses that phrase about, like, White male Christian opinions not being welcome. | ||
| When you say the color of their thoughts, if you're using that as a metaphor once, like you said, I think it's clunky for someone like you to use. | ||
| I'm suspicious. | ||
| But when you keep using it and the context is so clear that you're worried that white men aren't being listened to, I know what you mean. | ||
| The color of your thoughts is... | ||
| White thoughts. | ||
| If you put it like that is a 75% of the way through, that's your turn of phrase where it's like, boom, that's going to take me home into the conclusion. | ||
| I fucking nailed that. | ||
| What I mean is red state. | ||
| What I mean is like the color of your thoughts meaning red. | ||
| Ooh, that's possible. | ||
| Meaning that kind of thing. | ||
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It doesn't mean that. | |
| And then if you use it multiple times, what it means is white. | ||
| What it means is white thoughts. | ||
| I have bad news. | ||
| He first used it on page five. | ||
| You get one use of that. | ||
| That's your fucking closer. | ||
| He does that, and then he continues to use it. | ||
| The other things that I just think would be fun to point out are just his constant complaints about, like, you're not allowed to express white, Christian, Caucasian culture. | ||
| And to that, I think that this argument gets brought up a lot, and I'd like to respond to that. | ||
| You are. | ||
| You're just not allowed to do the racist stuff that's a part of it. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| If you want to have a barbecue on the 4th of July, fair play to you. | ||
| Enjoy. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| Everyone loves that. | ||
| Go broil a hot dog. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| That's super fun. | ||
| Or if you come from Irish heritage and you want to celebrate your Irish heritage, ain't nobody going to complain. | ||
| The problem is when... | ||
| Ancestry.com is there for you. | ||
| The problem comes... | ||
| When the part of your culture you're mad you can't celebrate is the South will rise again. | ||
| Or trying to rewrite what happened during the Civil War. | ||
| When that is the whiteness that you want to celebrate, that's the heritage, understandably people have a part of that, or a problem with that. | ||
| When Gavin McGinnis wants to celebrate the patriarchy, which he would just describe as like, hey, this is my male identity. | ||
| The problem with that is for decades. | ||
| For centuries, the patriarchy, what it represented was women being things. | ||
| Women being beaten and everyone thinking, hey, it's a joke that you beat your wife. | ||
| As long as it's not larger than your thumb. | ||
| Okay, sure. | ||
| But so when he goes around with his male fraternity of chauvinists and they scream at people, the patriarchy's back. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| It's really clear that people will hear that and be like, oh, what you're really excited about is the idea of being able to hit me privately. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| As opposed to if you're just someone who's like, I like being a guy. | ||
| No one's mad about that. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| There's a lot of people who are actually super cool with that. | ||
| So also, I'm just going to read this one last passage because I think it's very funny. | ||
| And it just illustrates how stupid Mike Adams is. | ||
| This is from page 20. Quote, in essence, media monopolists claim that they're gods who possess the divine right to interpret reality to the masses. | ||
| The claim smacks of journo cultism. | ||
| I think he's coining a phrase there. | ||
| As it is no different from the delusions of the high priests of the ancient Maya and Aztec cultures, who also proclaimed that only a select class of divinely ordained individuals could speak to God and interpret reality for the masses. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| Hey Mike, have you ever heard of the Holy of Holies? | ||
| Hey Mike, you ever looked into Christian history, you dumb twat? | ||
| Wait, wait, wait! | ||
| So journo-cultism? | ||
| Is that what we're doing now? | ||
| That's what he's doing. | ||
| We're just grabbing any two random words and just throw them into an ism? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he's like, oh yeah, that's just like the Aztec and Mayan cultures, or Christianity. | ||
| That's the beginning of Christianity. | ||
| No, Dan, here's why you're stupid. | ||
| Because you're a bureau-communistic capitalist. | ||
| That's what you are. | ||
| You're a commune alcoholist that does the business and then you're the business. | ||
| I believe in public property of alcohol. | ||
| Yeah, then that's evil, clearly. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's just like what the Mayans believed, Dan. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And that's why we can't allow Muslims in. | ||
| That's some hot nonsense. | ||
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That makes perfect sense. | |
| When you're pointing a finger at the Aztecs doing the exact same thing that Christians did. | ||
| So crazy. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Don't rewrite history, Dan. | ||
| There's that whole section of the church that people weren't allowed to go in, where the priests would go in. | ||
| No idea what you're talking about. | ||
| And they would hear messages from God and come back and interpret it. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| That's one of the reasons that Jesus was so revolutionary as an idea, because you could have a personal relationship with him. | ||
| And it got through. | ||
| It broke down the walls between the Holy of Holy and the masses. | ||
| There was an ability to have a... | ||
| You could play a role in religion as opposed to it being told to you by the priests. | ||
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Right. | |
| And it only took 1,500 years for that to actually happen. | ||
| The idea that Mike Adams is pointing to this as some sort of weird, different thing that the Aztecs and Mayans were like... | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| You want to talk about Christian culture and like... | ||
| You really love white male Christian identity. | ||
| You don't even know what Christ stood for. | ||
| I'm not saying you aren't a Christian or anything like that. | ||
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I am. | |
| I'm going to posit that you don't have an in-depth understanding or maybe even an interest in it. | ||
| There's no truth greater than that evangelical Christianity, as it is right now, loves every part of the Bible except for the parts where Jesus is allowed to talk. | ||
| Where Jesus is like, hey guys. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Where Jesus is like, you know all the stuff you guys think is cool? | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Yep. | |
| They don't like the part where he's a new way. | ||
| They want the Old Testament, but with the, like... | ||
| You know, they want the meat of the Old Testament. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They wish Jesus said what's in the Old Testament. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's basically where they are. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| They want the cachet of the, like, the redemptive narrative. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And the, like, the crucifixion being manifest glory to all of us. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And, like, you know, our sins being washed away. | ||
| They want that stuff, but they want the fucking really hardcore. | ||
| Rules and bigotry of the Old Testament. | ||
| They want that really bad. | ||
| It's like when Bush came, like G-dubs, and it was like, oh, this is compassionate conservative. | ||
| And you're like, those two words can't be near each other. | ||
| But it's good marketing. | ||
| They can't be near each other. | ||
| Good branding. | ||
| Oh, you know, it's just like the great parts of the Bible where God murdered people that he didn't like. | ||
| You know, that's the stuff that we really want, but also Jesus is there and he's super nice. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Andy might have killed a friend when he was a kid. | ||
| Nah, he also killed some dragons, though. | ||
| That's true. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Carrie Cassidy told me about that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So we got one more clip left. | ||
| And this is so familiar. | ||
| And I'm actually starting to become a little bit disappointed with myself that I didn't understand this game much earlier. | ||
| I kind of did intuitively, but I never was able to really put it into words. | ||
| But it's something we talked about back in the 2009 episodes. | ||
| And we see it here. | ||
| And it's something we've seen all the time. | ||
| And, again, I'm a little ashamed. | ||
| We're being overrun by the enemy. | ||
| We have the force to absolutely repel them and defeat them, but not if we're not aware. | ||
| Well, I'll share with you my worst case. | ||
| Scenario. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| I think they could do a nuclear false flag, dirty bomb, nuclear attack. | ||
| Oh, don't put it past him to kill Trump. | ||
| It takes out Trump. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It takes out Trump. | ||
| They blame it on patriots or they blame it on Trump's negotiations with North Korea. | ||
| They could say it's North Korea fighting back against Iran. | ||
| Or Iran, exactly. | ||
| But they take out Trump and they take out 200,000 Americans at the same time and then they blame conservatives and then they use that. | ||
| To blacklist all conservatives, all speech online, and any dissenting views. | ||
| This is the plan. | ||
| They have to silence you, Alex, and they have to silence me. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They wouldn't be taking the risk to shut us down when it wakes everybody up, the Streisand effect, if they weren't at a gut level, I know. | ||
| I think well before the election, they're going to hit us. | ||
| And I agree. | ||
| I think it's going to be a biological or a nuclear event. | ||
| But I think they want nuclear to kill POTUS. | ||
| See, that's the thing. | ||
| All they have to do... | ||
| And I'm not giving anybody ideas that they don't already know about. | ||
| They're trying to kill Trump every day. | ||
| They're death threats against Trump every day. | ||
| I mean, that was true for Obama, too, when he was in office. | ||
| No, nobody ever threatened Obama with death. | ||
| Oh, man, go Google that list. | ||
| Nobody ever threatened Obama with death. | ||
| He was just classy enough not to complain about it. | ||
| Nobody ever did it. | ||
| There's no propagandists like this backing him up. | ||
| That's why he never complained about it is because it never happened. | ||
| Never happened. | ||
| Never happened. | ||
| So, look, the thing that I was referring to before the clip is this is a fishing expedition that they're going on. | ||
| This is just preemptive narrative. | ||
| It's the same thing with when Alex in 2009 is saying that 17 states are going to be hit by a nuclear attack, a terrorist, a white nationalist terrorist, and that means that it's a false flag. | ||
| Not fully... | ||
| Not fully spelling all that out. | ||
| He's much more amateurish about it now, because he is spelling it out a little bit too much. | ||
| He's making more specific predictions in terms of, I think it's going to be a biological or nuclear attack, and he said well before the midterms, which is like, your time's running out, baby. | ||
| So he's much more clunky about this now, but as I reflect on it, I realize that he was doing this all the time that we've been covering him. | ||
| He was talking about how they're going to attack the inauguration, they're going to fly a helicopter into it and shit. | ||
| He does this all the time with these preemptive narrative. | ||
| It's the track he's laying for like, okay, if this happens, I'm going to hedge my bets. | ||
| We talk about this all the fucking time. | ||
| It's brilliant. | ||
| Because what you do is you create this real serious thing for your audience to be afraid of. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| On the off chance, something goes way crazy, and something does happen. | ||
| You're Nostradamus. | ||
| Then you're Nostradamus. | ||
| And if it doesn't happen, you can say, well, we talked about it, so the globalists got scared, and they didn't pull the trigger. | ||
| So he does this all the fucking time. | ||
| So the end of this, what I want to come to is... | ||
| I didn't expect... | ||
| This is a little longer than I predicted, and I'm sorry about that. | ||
| I didn't predict we'd have 20 minutes up top talking about the fake bands and stuff like that. | ||
| I thought we'd get that done in five. | ||
| But everyone's really focused on these fake bands. | ||
| And I understand why. | ||
| Everyone wants to do a little dance and be like, ha ha, we're doing something. | ||
| You're going down. | ||
| You're going down. | ||
| They want to do that because it's fun and it's gratifying for people who aren't doing anything. | ||
| And I understand that. | ||
| I don't expect better coverage out of the media. | ||
| The thing that I resent a little bit is that the way they are covering it is an advantage to Alex. | ||
| It plays into his hands. | ||
| And in present day, as everyone's talking about this, people aren't talking about the fact that he had a New Zealand preacher who prayed that a homosexual would commit suicide and is being deported. | ||
| For very legitimate reasons for harassing Muslims. | ||
| And at the same time, in that interview, they very clearly express a position that you should be scared of everyone who's not white. | ||
| All of this white fear is very consistent. | ||
| People aren't talking about that nearly fucking enough. | ||
| And then at the same time, it's just business as usual. | ||
| All this is just like... | ||
| This is what he does. | ||
| If you want to ban it, ban it. | ||
| If you don't, then stop. | ||
| Stop helping him. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's hard for me to put a button on this, but I'm a little mad. | ||
| No, I think you're absolutely right. | ||
| If you're going to pretend to censor this shit, well then fucking suck it up and do it. | ||
| And if you're not going to, then don't... | ||
| Why are you doing these bullshit half measures that are exactly what he hopes you do? | ||
| Because all you're doing is giving him two weeks of full-on, guess what? | ||
| These motherfuckers are trying to take us down. | ||
| You need to give us more money. | ||
| And then whenever you let him back on, he's going to do the same fucking shit. | ||
| And even before you let him back on. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| And then whenever he does get back on, he's going to be like, see, look, they can't stop us. | ||
| It's because of your support that we're not taken down from the air. | ||
| They're going to go all in on you. | ||
| Then you're in the position of folding or calling their aggression. | ||
| You have to either step to the plate and push or fold your fucking cards. | ||
| Because otherwise you're going to lose. | ||
| You're going to lose that fucking hand. | ||
| Alex Jones is metaphorically a bully at a poker table. | ||
| And you're playing shitty poker against him. | ||
| That's all I can say. | ||
| Ante up, shuffle up and deal, and try to do better. | ||
| And the problem is, you can't now. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's too late. | ||
| Well, maybe you can... | ||
| Well, I mean, if they actually... | ||
| No, no, here's the problem. | ||
| You can't right now. | ||
| Because if you now are like, hey, Alex, you said all the same shit on your show that you did upload to YouTube. | ||
| Oh, we're going to strike you, and now we're going to ban you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That feeds into the narrative he's already laying. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So you already... | ||
| That's like calling that all-in bet. | ||
| After you've already folded. | ||
| You've already shown weakness, and now all you're doing is putting your money in when he's already challenged you. | ||
| You can't do it. | ||
| There's no good answer for these fake, supposed liberal tech giants that are basically just helping the monsters amongst us proliferate their information. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| So congratulations, everyone. | ||
| We all did it! | ||
| If you want to find us, how do you find us, Dan? | ||
| We're on knowledgefight.com. | ||
| What if you're on Twitter? | ||
| Go to knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| How about if you're on Facebook? | ||
| If you're on Facebook, you can find us there. | ||
| We haven't been banned. | ||
| What if you want to go to a Facebook group? | ||
| There's one called Go Home and Tell Your Mother You're Brilliant. | ||
| All right. | ||
| If you were going to download a podcast, where would you do it? | ||
| I would go to iTunes. | ||
| If you wanted to leave a review, where would you do it? | ||
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iTunes again. | |
| Or on Facebook. | ||
| You can leave a review on Facebook. | ||
| You can do that. | ||
| And Dan, tonight, it is my turn. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| You can take it. | ||
| And I say to you, and I say to all of us, go fuck yourself, Robertson, and I hope you get deported from New Zealand, too, you pile of shit. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |