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May 23, 2018 - Knowledge Fight
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#163: January 27-29, 2009

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on back in the past on The Alex Jones Show. This episode may actually cover one of the most important days in Alex's career, one where he stumbled onto a tiny piece of news that he would go on to misrepresent and lie about for the next decade. Also, Alex learns that his singing sounds terrible on air.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
19:11
d
dan friesen
01:08:38
j
jordan holmes
29:59
Appearances
Clips
p
pastor david manning
00:02
t
ted anderson
00:06
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
dan friesen
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we are Dan.
dan friesen
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Dan.
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
What up?
jordan holmes
If everything was coming up, Dan.
Right.
And just a random stranger came up to you on the street and said, you sir, you look like you have...
Perhaps the only podcast about one subject that I could imagine.
No other people could have this podcast.
How would you describe it to this person to whom you know everything is coming up, Dan?
dan friesen
I would say, hey, weirdo, I'm having a good day.
Leave me alone.
But also, I do a podcast where I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
And that's our fun.
Guys, we're having a great time.
We're going to have a great time today.
But I want to talk before we get to our show.
About something that actually is relevant to the show.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So I'm going to let you all in, all you listeners out there.
I'm going to let you in on some Ahmad Rashad's.
That's right, some inside stuff.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I've been thinking that bit.
jordan holmes
I prefer some Isaiah Rashad, but okay.
dan friesen
I've been thinking about that joke all day.
jordan holmes
By the way, I love our relationship because you teased life stories before the show.
You were like, I can't tell you about this anecdote from my regular life until we're on the show.
unidentified
So I love it.
dan friesen
But it's relevant to the show.
Until today, it was kind of a little bit up in the air how the fuck I was going to get to Austin for our live show in Austin on June 15th at Beerland.
jordan holmes
Nicely done.
dan friesen
At 9pm, maybe?
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
Okay.
Tickets still available.
jordan holmes
Somewhere around there.
dan friesen
Because I had an expired ID, and I realized I can't get on a plane with this expired ID.
jordan holmes
Probably not.
dan friesen
So I'd been going back and forth to the Secretary of State's office over and over again, and they keep telling me this isn't good enough.
Whatever piece of information that I have about myself is not good enough to prove my date of birth, to prove my address.
unidentified
But please, sir, I baked these pies.
dan friesen
It was such a huge mess, man, because I had to get them my lease.
And I couldn't get my lease until after my birthday.
And after my birthday, my ID was then over a year expired, and now I can't use my old ID to prove my birthday anymore.
So they tell me that I need either my birth certificate or my school transcript in order to get my ID together.
jordan holmes
As everyone knows, those are the only two ways to really identify a person.
dan friesen
I'm kind of freaking out the last time I went there, and they're like, you need a birth certificate.
I'm like, how am I supposed to get a birth certificate?
And she's like, if you calm down, I'll tell you.
I'm like, all right.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
And she's like, excuse me.
jordan holmes
Excuse me.
Is your name Dan?
Please stop crying.
Please stop crying.
This is the Secretary of State's officer.
dan friesen
I wasn't crying, but I was not happy.
And she was like, calm down.
All you have to do, go over to the Thompson Center, and they'll give you one.
unidentified
I'm like, how does that work?
dan friesen
I was born...
jordan holmes
What are you talking about?
Am I going to need ID to get this birth certificate?
dan friesen
I was like, I was born in California.
And then she was like, oh, you're fucked.
All right, cool.
I'm like, do you have a passport?
I'm like, yeah, it's expired by now.
I got it 10 years ago.
It's not right.
So they were like, all right, maybe school transcript.
So I was looking through my apartment, top to bottom today.
Couldn't find my birth certificate.
But I did find my school transcript.
And Jordan, I have a little bit of a reveal for you here.
This is my high school equivalence degree.
Careful if you flash it to the screen because it does have my social security number on it.
jordan holmes
I would just like to congratulate David A. Friesen for graduating from the Department of Elementary and Secondary Education State of Missouri.
dan friesen
That's my GED.
I'll flash this up to the camera.
jordan holmes
Congratulations, David.
dan friesen
It has my brother's name on it, my social security number, and my middle initial.
unidentified
Perfect.
dan friesen
It's completely fucked.
I'm like...
There's no way they're going to accept this.
jordan holmes
With your ID expired, your passport expired, and a transcript that does not have your name on it, you might be off the grid.
Are you off the grid?
Do you even have to pay taxes?
dan friesen
I thought for sure I'm going to go in there, and they're going to be like, nah, this doesn't work.
So I went in today, this morning, 7.30 in the morning, to get there right when they opened at 8, sweating bullets as I put this transcript down on the table.
Just like...
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Like, counterfeit $100 bills.
Like, you got it in the back of your mind, like, they're gonna catch me!
dan friesen
I'm the guy who has, like, a balloon of cocaine up his asshole going through customs.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
That's how I feel at the Secretary of State's office.
jordan holmes
That's how you feel most of the time, though.
dan friesen
And I'm like, oh, God, this is a disaster.
And they accept it, and I got my ID.
So, we will be in Austin.
That's my long way of saying that.
But, in going through...
jordan holmes
That's such a weird...
It's so weird and stupid that they're like...
Oh, that's your wrong name?
Don't worry about it.
We'll give you an ID.
dan friesen
Fine.
Whatever.
jordan holmes
We don't trust that you're you because your ID expired four days ago, so that means clearly that you could be anyone.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But a school transcript without your name on it?
How could we not trust you?
The most identification.
dan friesen
So what's fun is that in going through all of my stuff to try and find my birth certificate, I found a couple of cool...
Remnants from my past that were very sentimental.
And I want to elevate our friendship and expose myself to the audience a little bit with these.
jordan holmes
I like it when you get real, Dan.
dan friesen
The first one here is a clipping from a newspaper in Missouri where I'm protesting the Iraq War in 2000, whatever Bush's second inauguration was.
jordan holmes
Nice!
dan friesen
So 2004, maybe?
Clipping from the newspaper.
jordan holmes
Were you in this?
dan friesen
I'm the guy in that picture.
jordan holmes
You're this guy right here?
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm that guy.
That's me.
jordan holmes
But you don't have a beard.
dan friesen
No, I didn't have a beard all the time.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine that.
dan friesen
Yeah, just most of the time I had a beard.
jordan holmes
What do you mean you didn't have a beard all the time?
I swear to God, I thought you were a baby with a beard.
dan friesen
Just 99% of the time I had a beard.
So that's kind of cool.
I was like, oh wow, I didn't realize that I was in the paper protesting.
That makes me feel good.
Makes me remember my...
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And something that makes me not feel as great is I found this picture from my first apartment, which, for everyone who's listening and not watching this, is...
I'll show this to you, and then I'll describe what it is.
There's a picture of me in my first apartment at 18. If you want to flash that to the camera so good people can see this.
jordan holmes
I don't know if I do.
I'm looking at this and it concerns me.
This young man needs help.
dan friesen
Oh, there's no doubt about it.
So, as that's up on the screen here, I'd like to describe what that is.
That is me with a beard without a mustache.
jordan holmes
I was actually about to ask you before you said anything.
dan friesen
Amish beard.
jordan holmes
Did you have a chin strap beard at this time?
unidentified
Oh, I did.
dan friesen
I did.
I was living in a shitty basement apartment.
And if you look at this picture carefully, what you'll see is a refrigerator that the only thing in it is two dogs.
Yep.
That malt liquor.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And on the fridge, if you look very carefully, you will see a picture of myself passed out on a lawn on the fridge.
The only thing that's on the fridge is me passed out on a lawn.
jordan holmes
The only thing that's in the fridge is malt liquor.
unidentified
Yeah.
All right.
jordan holmes
All right, Dan.
dan friesen
Life is good.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
That was me at 18. Oh, boy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Good times.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
So anyway.
jordan holmes
That poor man.
That poor David there.
dan friesen
So that's a little fun.
Oh, that was actually before I got my GED.
This was in that no man's land where it didn't look like I was going to get my equivalents.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Woo, times were bad.
Anyway, the novelty beverage today, two-hearted ale from Bell's to the chatroom, and now let's get down to business.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
First things first, I'd like to give a shout-out and a thank you to some of our new donors.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
Did somebody finally do the drop?
dan friesen
I think someone requested that I talk about my past a little bit, and that's why I did that.
That's not true at all.
But I'd like to give a shout-out to a new policy wonk, someone who's joined up with the team.
Thank you so much, Tim.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Tim, for joining up with the crowd.
dan friesen
You're not going to do your bit?
jordan holmes
I ran out of the bit.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I haven't done the bit the last few times, and you're just now noticing.
dan friesen
I haven't noticed.
jordan holmes
Frankly, it wasn't worth it.
dan friesen
I've been too self-conscious about the idea that I keep saying I'm going to make this new drop, and I haven't.
jordan holmes
That's what I was...
Okay.
dan friesen
Today, I have got it.
jordan holmes
You got it!
dan friesen
I have created the new drop for our new level of donor.
Our new level of supporter.
There is, of course, policy wonk.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
There is foreign policy wonk.
There's globalist.
There's Technocrat, which was the top.
jordan holmes
Couldn't get any higher than that.
dan friesen
Now there is a new level.
We have three people who are at that level currently.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
That I've been waiting to give shouts out to.
jordan holmes
Elevate to.
dan friesen
And I have told, I have said one of them before already, and that is Keegan.
Our listener Keegan, who so kindly got us all these back issues of InfoWars magazine that I've been reading that's crazy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Keegan, there is also a little part of me that's like, you're enabling Dan's worst behavior.
dan friesen
Yeah, a little bit.
But he got the honor of naming the Nonc Memorial Library of Bullshit and Lies.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And also, I would like to congratulate him on being the first Raptor Princess.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
alex jones
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
I know how to read.
I am out of control.
I've never really seen a lot of white racism in my life.
I really haven't.
I bet you money there are few living black people.
That have been abused by white people as much as I have been abused by black people.
Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, both those guys were complete badasses.
unidentified
Complete studs.
Welcome to McDonald's.
May I help you?
alex jones
I'm Eddie Sanders.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Keegan.
Good times.
jordan holmes
So wait, there are two more?
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
There are two more?
dan friesen
Well, we're not doing them all today.
We're going to spread that out.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, we're going to be here a long time.
dan friesen
That goddamn drop is 45 seconds long.
jordan holmes
We're going to be here a long time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, thank you so much.
We got a couple more folks coming along.
jordan holmes
I knew, like, on our last episode, I think I remembered and said that he had praised Hitler in the past.
But, God, I forgot that he had called him and Stalin total badasses.
dan friesen
Complete studs.
jordan holmes
Complete studs.
What a weird thing to say.
dan friesen
Very strange.
He also says a bunch of strange things on today's show.
Nice transition.
Thank you.
We're going to be going over January 27th through 29th, 2009.
unidentified
Alright.
dan friesen
And there's a reason for it.
I was going to do a Project Camelot show today, but man, it was tough.
So, my original plan...
That's a great explanation.
jordan holmes
I like that.
dan friesen
One of the reasons that my day was so hectic was I was trying to prepare a Project Camelot episode.
And in doing so, I hit a lot of roadblocks.
Because what I intended to cover was Courtney Brown, the remote viewer who inadvertently, you know...
Basically led to the Heaven's Gate.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, it's the different one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, now that one.
dan friesen
The guy who said that he remote-viewed an object, a UFO behind Hale-Bopp comet, and led to people's deaths.
He was on Project Camelot again, and he remote-viewed Moses and the Ten Commandments.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I was like...
jordan holmes
Which one was his favorite?
dan friesen
I didn't watch it, because it was so boring.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
dan friesen
Well, I got through like 25 minutes, half an hour, and like, none of this is entertaining.
It's just a really annoying dude.
So I started looking through more of his shit, and I found that he is doing, right now, an investigation using remote viewing to talk about the future of Bitcoin.
But, because that qualifies kind of as financial advice...
He has to give a disclaimer that is like, this is for entertainment purposes only, because he doesn't want to get fucking sued, which really undercuts his own belief in his remote viewing capabilities.
So I was watching that, and I'm like, this is a disaster.
This sucks so much.
jordan holmes
Oh, and he still went through with it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think it would be hilarious if he did a remote viewing into Alex Jones in 2015.
dan friesen
That would be amazing.
jordan holmes
He just plagiarizes our episodes entirely?
That'd be fantastic.
dan friesen
So then I was like, alright.
Courtney Brown, this new episode sucks.
Let's go back to Mark Richards.
So I went and watched the first episode.
jordan holmes
The very first?
dan friesen
Just the time that Carrie Cassidy and Mark Richards met.
And I realized he's been lying to her the exact same way the entire time.
It's all the same shit.
jordan holmes
How many years ago was it?
dan friesen
This was like four years ago.
This was 2014, I believe.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
So she's in her car after she got out of Vacaville Prison and she's just like...
He's friends with the raptors.
I'm like, alright, are we going to do this again?
I love Mark Richards, but it's the same thing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So then I was like, alright.
jordan holmes
You were hoping for the story to have evolved over time instead of almost being pretty much the same thing.
dan friesen
And so I was like, alright, you know what the fun of Project Camelot is?
It's us finding new crazies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so I found this other guy, Matthew...
Boy, I don't even remember his fucking name because he was so terrible.
But he was on talking about how Mormonism was created by aliens.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
I'm like, this could be juicy.
jordan holmes
That...
Why are you talking about new crazies?
This is the first reasonable person that's ever been on Project Camelot.
dan friesen
So I watched about an hour of it, and it's bizarre.
Oh, it's Matthew Hines, H-E-I-N-E-S.
He wrote a book.
He wrote a book called Deception of the Ages, Mormons, Freemasons, and Extraterrestrials.
And so I was watching it, and I got to about it.
jordan holmes
That is a great book.
Great book title.
dan friesen
So I got to about an hour into it, and it's kind of...
Carrie is arguing with him.
What?
She's like, that doesn't make sense.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yeah, because he's saying that, like, Battlestar Galactica was based on Mormon beliefs or something like the Ten Tribes of Israel or out in space, the Lost Tribe.
I don't know.
But Carrie was like, that doesn't make sense.
And it was just...
It wasn't good.
But I did find one thing that was really fun.
This guy who wrote a book about extraterrestrials and Mormons.
I found his page on Gig Salad, which, if you are not a stand-up comedian, you don't know, that is a place where really shitty comics go to try and get corporate.
What?
Oh, no!
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Normally, I do stand-up comedy, but until next December, when I win the race for U.S. Senate in District 1, I will be campaigning.
If you'd like me to speak at your event about politics or tell jokes or both, that is fine.
unidentified
I have fallen in love with a man.
jordan holmes
What is he?
That is delusion of the grandest order, and I love it.
dan friesen
He has a what to expect section.
jordan holmes
What to expect?
dan friesen
A highly professional comedian, author, or emcee that doesn't use foul language or disgusting jokes that will nauseate your clients.
jordan holmes
Not very professional in all of those.
dan friesen
Sure, some establishments want to draw the kind of crowd that will enjoy that kind of thing, and they will not make much money from such clientele.
With 20 years of teaching experience around the world at high school, college, and military levels...
I know how to work a crowd.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
So then he gets into bullet points about, like, why he's a good comic.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
The first material, I can write jokes for any crowd.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I thought he could only write jokes for the crowd that it doesn't appreciate.
dan friesen
Clean, clean crowds.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Two, education.
I hold a master's degree.
Three, education and a bachelor's in history.
jordan holmes
He holds a master's degree in education.
dan friesen
Yes, sir.
Apparently.
jordan holmes
That does not equal...
But okay.
dan friesen
So, there's experience, location awareness.
He says he can write a joke about any part of Washington.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm just saying that most of the funniest comics that I know probably didn't even graduate high school.
dan friesen
But get this, number five.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Physical presence.
jordan holmes
That is...
Absolutely important.
dan friesen
I lift weights and swim three miles every week and have done so since I completed my enlistment in the U.S. Army's 82nd Airborne at the age of 21. I am energetic and I possess lots of stamina.
Which is great for a stand-up comedian.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Number six, loyalty.
At this stage of my career, I will remember those businesses that helped me get started.
I will be at your beck and call and do everything I can to fulfill your requests now until my maker calls me home.
jordan holmes
This is an insane person.
This is an insane person.
dan friesen
So I was like, this is the guy who's coming on and talking about Mormonism and aliens?
This is amazing.
So I was like, how much does he charge?
I want to book him.
And I looked, and they have the booking fees on Geek Salad?
jordan holmes
What, like two grand?
dan friesen
Free.
jordan holmes
Well, he's got all those book sales money.
dan friesen
Right.
So I found that and I'm like, this is great, but is this a whole episode if it's just like nonsense and him being like, well, it actually does make sense.
And I'm like, okay, I don't care.
I don't want to do this.
jordan holmes
How is his physical presence with Carrie?
Not good?
dan friesen
Not great.
jordan holmes
Where were the three miles that he swam that week?
dan friesen
Probably somewhere around Washington State.
He has a great location awareness.
jordan holmes
That's good.
dan friesen
So, listen.
jordan holmes
Although, at the same time, I gotta tell ya, local jokes means local work, my friend.
dan friesen
I went down a lot of Project Camelot roads, and they all were dead ends.
But thankfully, I had some 2009 that I've been looking into.
And I will say, one of these episodes that we're gonna cover in this January 27th to 29th...
Is my second favorite episode of Alex Jones I've ever listened to.
jordan holmes
That's huge!
dan friesen
The first, my number one favorite, of course, is that time that he satirically jumped the shark by suggesting that we kick all Muslims out of the United States while he was kind of making that argument.
jordan holmes
Satire!
dan friesen
That's my favorite episode.
Second favorite is going to be the 28th, but we'll get to that here in a minute.
First, here's an out-of-context drop from Alex Jones.
alex jones
You digging me?
As they say, you dig it?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Cool, daddy-o.
He's hip, man.
Don't laugh.
He's hip.
jordan holmes
You guys still smoking the reefer?
You guys still the cool guys?
You want to go shoot some dope?
dan friesen
You guys like jazz cigarettes?
So, on the 27th, Alex...
jordan holmes
They're going to take me down to the freak wharf.
dan friesen
Alex, on the 27th, my man, he is seven days into Obama's presidency.
jordan holmes
Right.
Giving him a chance.
dan friesen
Boy!
Not great.
jordan holmes
Not great.
dan friesen
No.
No, he is not having a good time.
jordan holmes
He's not a fan?
dan friesen
He's not having a good time with this presidency.
jordan holmes
Well, what could Obama have done in that first seven days?
He's really just moving in at that point.
dan friesen
He's gun grabbing.
He's setting up all sorts of negative things.
jordan holmes
He's already doing this.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's got his gun grabbers.
jordan holmes
He's got his gun grabbers?
dan friesen
He's got his gun grabbers running around grabbing guns.
jordan holmes
Is that like one of those hand extension things that old people use to pick up?
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
It's one of those robotic arms.
jordan holmes
But it's like really long and it only attracts guns.
dan friesen
To the chat room, we will call Larry Nichols again sometime, but not tonight.
Too late for the old man.
But in this first clip, Alex discusses this very, very ironic position that he has on what's going to happen after Obama.
alex jones
The Obama administration...
Is to double the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan to 60,000.
And when asked in a television interview if the U.S. public should expect more American casualties, Biden said, I hate to say it, but yes, I think there will be an uptick.
That's a quote.
Greater U.S. involvement in Afghanistan is a political risk for Obama.
But he didn't care.
He's in office now.
With the danger that mounting American casualties can make the war as unpopular as Iraq.
But see, the media isn't going to make an issue of it now.
You see, they're going to not make hay out of it.
They had to do that with Bush to then give you the next savior.
Obama, and you wait before they get rid of Obama in 48 years, whatever the elite decides, they will then demonize and destroy him.
So that you will then see the next guy as the savior.
It's just basic elementary psychology.
dan friesen
Interesting.
So now, as we know, in 2016, the person who was destroying Obama in order to create the image of a new savior is Alex Jones.
The media was not destroying Obama, although there was...
You know, reasonable reasons to have some harsh criticisms.
The media was probably a little bit more than fair to Obama on his way out, and in no way made Trump look like the savior.
That was Alex's sole job.
jordan holmes
Pretty much his entire joie de vivre at that point in time came from doing so.
dan friesen
So in 2009, we have Alex predicting what the globalists are going to do once Obama is out.
And then we have, in 2016, Alex doing exactly what he predicted the globalists would do in 2009.
jordan holmes
He's really good at it.
dan friesen
It's very weird.
jordan holmes
Very weird.
You learn from your enemies.
You learn their tactics and you deploy them against them.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's very strange, bro.
jordan holmes
That's just tactical thinking.
dan friesen
I do agree.
You fight fire with fire.
Anyway, in this next clip, I just have this in just to reestablish that Alex, it's not a flippant statement for him.
He does believe that Iran's nuclear program was peaceful.
alex jones
Uranium for Iran nuke in 2009, a Sky Television headline.
Very deceptive because it is for peaceful purposes, according to inspectors and others.
But that headline is, the nuke, they're getting the nukes.
Iran will have enough enriched uranium to make a single nuclear weapon later this year, the Procedures International Institute for Strategic Studies predicts.
But the CIA assessment says it'll take seven more years for them to do that.
The same prestigious groups that told us Iraq had WMDs.
dan friesen
So, I mean, I don't know how you make it more clear than he's fairly pro-Iran.
Yeah!
At least...
As far as this angle goes.
I mean, I know we already established that.
unidentified
We already talked about it.
jordan holmes
It is kind of weird that he's not pro-Iran now, considering Russia is a huge backer of Iran.
dan friesen
Right, right.
But that makes me...
That furthers my theory that I don't think he's actually beholden to Russia necessarily or on the hook for them.
He just jacks off to Putin.
You know what I mean?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
He's like, I love you, but I don't know if I like your friends.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Your friends are brown.
jordan holmes
I gotcha.
dan friesen
I don't know about that.
All right.
unidentified
Well...
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
You nailed it.
Agreed.
dan friesen
Don't shake your finger at me when I'm...
jordan holmes
I'm not shaking my finger at you.
I'm pointing at you in a sign of...
dan friesen
You're digging me?
jordan holmes
You nailed it.
dan friesen
You're digging me?
jordan holmes
I am digging you.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
As the kids say.
dan friesen
As they do.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So, in this episode, Alex...
jordan holmes
At their sock hops.
dan friesen
Oh, God, with their ice cream socials.
Their shindigs.
jordan holmes
Going out and having phosphates all the time, Dan.
dan friesen
God damn it.
It's a deterioration of the family.
Yeah.
Dating.
I don't know.
So, um...
jordan holmes
Back in my day, my parents chaperoned all of my dates.
dan friesen
I regret that you were not around for that episode that I did with Marty, where we talked a lot about libertarianism and the Von Mies Institute.
jordan holmes
I listened to it.
dan friesen
The Mies Institute.
Well, if you were here, we would have done a lot more.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, fair.
dan friesen
We would have screamed a lot more about all the stuff I had researched about how heartless these fuckers are.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
At its core, the Austrian school and the Mies Institute version of libertarianism is, like, real harsh.
Fuck you and your needs.
It doesn't matter.
Like, the example that we had on that episode that I think is the most telling is they're straight up making an argument for why you don't have an obligation to feed or clothe your child.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because that would be a negative obligation on yourself as opposed to a positive.
It's a whole huge mess.
You can read their articles about it.
I'm not making any of this up.
So that's the school of libertarianism that Alex comes from, and a lot of the John Birch Society stuff is in that vein.
And so, on this episode, here on the 27th of January, Alex is talking about a story where an old man freezes to death in his home.
And his angle on it does not make sense with his philosophical beliefs.
alex jones
That's a shame that they turn people's power off during the winter.
Speaking of that, I want to play a little clip from this AP piece, which was a fair piece.
I've got some of the local news pieces that make excuses for the fact that this World War II vet died.
But this is what's going on in the economic downturn as they turn people's power off when they're living in freezing temperatures.
And by the way, when they found him, again, he had his stove open.
He was by the stove, dead, and in front of him, and they've now ruled, the coroner's ruled, that it was hypothermia, with all this money piled up, with change and dollars and everything piled up, to try to go pay the back bill.
But hey, eugenics has followed its course.
He froze to death.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was eugenics followed.
alex jones
Let's go ahead and play that clip.
dan friesen
So, a couple things.
This guy owed $1,000 to the utility company.
That's a lot of back bills.
jordan holmes
That's a lot of back bills.
dan friesen
I'm not saying he deserved to fucking die or anything like that.
unidentified
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
Far from it.
I think absolutely you shouldn't turn people's power off in the winter.
Right.
But you know how you do that?
Fucking government regulating businesses.
Literally the...
unidentified
Literally the...
dan friesen
Fair enough.
Libertarianism!
The only way for Alex's desired outcome to come is against his philosophical positions.
But because this guy was an old white World War II veteran, he's like, oh, what a damn shame.
Hey, this is what's happening in this economy.
That's Obama's fault.
Or whatever.
jordan holmes
But that's what libertarianism is.
Libertarianism is entirely, I believe myself to be a god.
And if everything isn't going right for me, Fuck you.
Doesn't matter which direction.
It could be if you're in the lower power.
I tried to buy this with currency that I wrote on my hand that said all the money.
And you wouldn't let me?
That's anti-libertarianism.
I wanted to get all the heat, but you turned it off because I didn't pay you?
That's wrong.
That's morally wrong.
You, sir.
Are immoral.
dan friesen
Businesses should be able to exclude gays or black people if they want to, because the market will take care of that.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And I will delight in their freedom to segregate their businesses.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
But then, whenever anything goes against me, oh my god, this is a breach of...
jordan holmes
Well, that's against the rules.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's a breach of the very fabric of American society.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It's all this horse shit.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But, uh, so I just, I like that because...
jordan holmes
Libertarianism is just a man saying...
Well, it shouldn't happen to me.
dan friesen
To whatever.
But I think that this is a moment where, like, Alex Jones is, like, I think it's a little bit of a tell.
And I don't want to say it's just because he's an old white World War I veteran, a World War II veteran.
I use that as, like, a, you know, like, as a little bit of a dig.
But at the same time, I think that this is a moment where, like, his humanity is weighing out over his...
Like, uh...
unidentified
Bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I don't mean to say that that makes him good or anything like that, but it should be some indication that I don't think he really believes in his beliefs.
That's more what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
Nobody does.
dan friesen
Like, I don't think that these libertarian beliefs that he subscribes to really go much deeper than leave me the fuck alone, I hate gay people, I don't want to be forced to talk to black people, they scare me, Muslims are weird, and I want my guns.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that's probably, like...
The rest of it's kind of scattershot.
jordan holmes
It's not really an ideology.
dan friesen
Yes, it is.
jordan holmes
It's a bad one.
It's not really an ideology that falls under the banner of any larger thing other than, like, I want to be quietly racist.
unidentified
Please.
dan friesen
Well, it's kind of...
jordan holmes
I wouldn't have to say the N-word if I never saw any N-words.
That's that thought process.
dan friesen
It's early 20th century America is what he masturbates to.
jordan holmes
Be like Ike.
dan friesen
So, on this episode, we get probably, other than Old Man House Phone, we get one of my favorite callers.
I miss Old Man House Phone.
jordan holmes
He loved Old Man House Phone.
dan friesen
I haven't heard him in a while.
I miss him dearly.
But he does call in a lot.
alex jones
We're gonna get you a show.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
You sound very insightful.
jordan holmes
Do you have a cell phone?
No.
dan friesen
I'm a 90-year-old shut-in and my phone is attached to the wall.
But this collar is incredibly insightful.
jordan holmes
Also, my phone is in the shape of a golfer.
It's a novelty phone.
dan friesen
It's a Garfield phone.
jordan holmes
It's a novelty phone.
dan friesen
So this collar, dude.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He asks a really pointed question, because Alex is still at this point complaining about the Trans-Texas Corridor that never got built.
jordan holmes
Right, the road.
dan friesen
The road.
The big road.
jordan holmes
The biggest issue of all time.
dan friesen
The UN is going to take over the United States through a road.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And they had four districts, suspiciously very similar to the time zones.
dan friesen
This is all stuff we've gone over in Endgame.
Yeah.
Endgame coverage.
If you want to learn more about it, go listen to those episodes.
I'm not going to break it down again.
But this caller has an amazing question that Alex seems to have not considered very deeply.
alex jones
Right now, let's go back to your calls.
Dave in Florida had another question.
Go ahead, Dave.
unidentified
Yeah, let's kind of just relate to that before.
With the depopulation agenda...
Why do you think they would need a NAFTA superhighway if 90% of the people were going to be dead?
All the surveillance and other things it seems like they're doing really don't seem like they would be necessary with 90% of the people gone.
alex jones
Okay.
The issue is, and then I'll intellectually and analytically with common sense, critical thinking go through.
The main body of your question.
jordan holmes
More preamble.
More preamble before you get to what you...
I gotta...
Hold on.
I'm gonna...
First, I gotta talk to you about this one thing.
But then, after that one thing, I'm gonna analyze.
I am going to synthesize.
I am going to buy a synthesizer.
I am going to dance like Giorgio Moroder.
And then I will be able to tell you why, commonsensically, you, sir, are...
Obviously.
Incontrovertibly wrong, sir!
I don't want you to say another word.
Oh, we have to go to break?
Alright, guys, I'm going to have to say goodbye.
dan friesen
I'm going to vamp talking about how smart my answer is.
So his answer, unsurprisingly, is just to ramble about Endgame.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there we go.
alex jones
The issue is, and then I'll intellectually and analytically with common sense...
dan friesen
That's just to show you there's no cuts here.
alex jones
...critical thinking go through the main body of your question.
But the serious issue here is, do official United Nations biological diversity assessments say that they want an 80% reduction in the world's population?
dan friesen
They don't.
Go listen to the endgame stuff.
We cover this.
alex jones
And the answer is yes.
That's in my film with the date and name and close-ups of the documents.
Nope.
These aren't Internet pages or copies of them.
This is from the UN.
jordan holmes
No, it's Encarta.
alex jones
library do all these big universities say that's the number does Ted Turner and Prince Philip and all these world leaders say that 80% number do a lot of the academics and government reports now say 90% reduction yes they're getting more extreme so that is going on
So he just rambles about how, like, they need to put this road in and...
dan friesen
Poison the water so they can do a slow kill.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
So you need the road so you can incrementally decrease the population by 90%.
dan friesen
Yeah, so you can have this super highway that's taken over by the UN and then it takes away American sovereignty, blah, blah, blah.
jordan holmes
So maybe what the globalists are really against is just fucking traffic.
They need a bigger road and then they need to get rid of people.
dan friesen
We don't get to use the NAFTA super highway.
That's just for cargo, I think.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
I don't fucking know.
jordan holmes
The globalists gotta get to use that.
Why would they need cargo if everybody's dead?
dan friesen
There's a diamond lane for globalists.
jordan holmes
There's a diamond lane for globalists?
unidentified
Alright.
dan friesen
You have to show your globalist card, and then you get to go through the carpool lane.
jordan holmes
Alright, well that's nice.
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
jordan holmes
There should be some perks.
dan friesen
But I will give Alex credit, and maybe I hear people's criticisms that I'm being too positive about him in 2009, and I think they're missing the fucking point.
But I will tip my cap that because he vamped for so long about nothing, he did manage to come up with an answer that at least answers the question.
Right.
It does so poorly, but at least it's an answer to the question.
jordan holmes
No, that is true.
He does get to, he's like, The whole time he's talking, he's like, okay.
dan friesen
It's like you're a comic and you forgot your bit, and you're vamping on stage like, where are you from?
jordan holmes
How long have you guys been married?
dan friesen
You do a little bit of crowd work while you're trying to figure out, what was my bit?
Where was I going?
Yeah, that's what he's doing.
He goes into autopilot and is like, 80% of the people need to die.
It's in papers.
It's in my movie.
Because he doesn't need to think while he says that shit.
So this guy...
Then comes in with an amazing follow-up.
jordan holmes
He has a follow-up question?
dan friesen
He has a follow-up question that is amazing.
unidentified
Yeah, all right.
One other thing.
I was just wondering what you thought.
Why do you think that all the Hollywood people that you know and big-time people and wealthy people, rich people, why do you think nobody's ever just given you a million dollars or half a million or just something so you wouldn't have to spend so much time advertising?
alex jones
I hear you.
I appreciate your call.
That is another really important, complex question.
But first, let me see the Hollywood.
Let me write that down before I forget.
Hollywood, answer that question.
But I want to go back to your first question, because I said I was going to fully answer that, and what was the point I was going to make?
Well, A, it's their stated goal, so that's the fact.
It isn't about whether Alex Jones is right or not.
That's what they're stating.
So it's not about me.
That's what they're saying they're going to do.
The question is, will they be able to do it?
Will we let them?
dan friesen
So how do I answer this question where it is very clear that I keep pretending that millionaires support me and billionaires support me and multi-millionaires and Charlie Sheen gave me his coat and why won't they just give me the money I need to run this operation instead of me having to sell fucking dumbass shit and have this soap guy come do limericks on my show where I look like an asshole and I just look bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why wouldn't they do that?
dan friesen
Alex has to like, ooh boy, how do I answer that question without...
I'm going to need some time.
Let me write down Hollywood.
Let me write that down.
I want to get back to that.
jordan holmes
I love that he had to write down Hollywood.
dan friesen
I want to get back to that, but I want to answer your first question that I've already answered.
jordan holmes
Yep.
I want to answer it better.
Can I get a redo?
dan friesen
So he mumbles around a bit, and then he finally lands on this as his answer, which is like, all right.
alex jones
Hollywood people and prominent people and wealthy people almost get an allergy.
To people asking him for things or asking for money.
And now I'm known in Hollywood somewhat as not burning people, as not being grasping, as not being somebody trying to mash them or squeeze them or get something.
I'm known by a lot of people in music and entertainment as not really trying to get anything out of somebody.
dan friesen
I got a reputation in Hollywood, baby!
jordan holmes
Frankly, why haven't they given me a million dollars?
Because it would be gauche.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
It would be...
Now you notice.
It would be untowards.
It is simply not...
Done, sir.
dan friesen
You noticed that the caller didn't ask, why haven't you asked them for a million dollars?
It was, why haven't they given you a million dollars?
Because you would think that that's what they would do if they supported and believed his dumbass bullshit about the globalists.
jordan holmes
If they got all that money to throw around, why aren't they throwing it around at you?
They believe you, and you are doing the most important work.
dan friesen
And based on Alex's arguments and the way he presents things...
They know even more than him that he's right.
alex jones
Of course.
dan friesen
Because they're a part of these systems.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Charlie Sheen's been to satanic, pedophile parties.
jordan holmes
Ah, but that's why they can't donate that money.
unidentified
Why?
jordan holmes
Because then there's a paper trail.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Then the globalists will know that they're on to them.
dan friesen
Bitcoin wasn't as big like that.
jordan holmes
Even though, of course, going on Alex Jones' show, the globalists are fine with.
But if you actually see...
It's controlled opposition.
You can't allow him to get too powerful getting all these million-dollar checks from Charlie Sheen and whatnot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Probably.
So that caller gets my knowledge fight stamp of approval for today.
That caller is the shit.
And now we'll pivot to a caller who is the exact opposite.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
unidentified
Okay.
Just a couple days before the election, Halloween, Obama took his daughter out, dressed up as a corpse queen.
All the major media was reporting that, and that's when I knew we were in for some pure evil with this guy.
dan friesen
It was Halloween.
jordan holmes
That tracks.
Tracks.
All Hallows Eve.
All Hallows Eve, Dan.
That is when the spirits and the devils come out to play.
dan friesen
She is a child on Halloween.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yep.
But he dressed her like a death queen.
dan friesen
Corpse queen.
jordan holmes
Corpse queen.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Do you mean from a popular movie?
dan friesen
I think possibly, yes.
I don't know what movies came out in 2009, but...
Yeah, I would assume.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Something along those lines.
Some pop culture bullshit.
So, that guy can suck it.
But on this episode, Alex has a visit from Gerald Salenti.
Our old friend, who's the trends forecaster.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And of course, it's all like everything's going to shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's going to go terribly.
dan friesen
Mostly like a buy gold stuff.
jordan holmes
You're going to need to buy gold.
dan friesen
Bob Chapman isn't on this episode in 2009, as he has been on every other episode.
Right.
So Gerald Salenti is filling the Bob Chapman role, because Bob had something else to do.
Sure he did.
He's there, but they don't do...
jordan holmes
He's at the DMV getting a new ID.
dan friesen
It's such a burdensome process.
So they don't do the same game as Bob and Ted do, but it's the same point.
They get to the same point.
jordan holmes
They don't have the same practice two-man con coming out of it.
dan friesen
They don't have a vaudeville training.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So the other person that he has on on this episode is investigative reporter Wayne Madsen.
jordan holmes
I don't think any of those words are true, including Wayne and Madsen.
dan friesen
Go fuck yourself.
You don't remember Wayne Madsen?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He's the guy who told the story about the White House chef who got murdered with a...
It was that guy?
jordan holmes
Oh man, I cannot remember him.
dan friesen
He is a mess.
jordan holmes
I loved him in with Mark Madsen, I believe.
dan friesen
One of the reasons you can't remember him is he appeared briefly in our 2015 stuff and doesn't appear anymore because he fucking hates Alex.
He hates him.
He thinks that he is a fucking sellout for Israel.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I'm not going to side with him on this, except for the hating Alex part.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Your reasons are wrong, probably.
But he, at some point, I'm not sure exactly when, we're going to have to figure that out as we go along, but he now is like, he tweets brutal shit about Alex.
Like, he hates him.
unidentified
Nice.
dan friesen
He's one of the, like, laundry list of dudes who were involved in InfoWars who now are like...
Fuck this dude.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, Wayne Madsen comes in.
jordan holmes
In this case, the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.
dan friesen
No, certainly not.
jordan holmes
However, fuck Alex Jones.
I'm with you.
dan friesen
I'll smirk at the enemy of my enemy, but I will not consider them a friend.
So, Wayne Madsen's on, and he's got some fucking hard-hitting reporting, bro.
He wants to come in and talk about Rahm Emanuel.
Good.
Because he's a Jew.
jordan holmes
No!
That's not.
Why?
That's not why for so many reasons.
There are so many worse things than just being a Jew.
dan friesen
They don't make it.
It's not about that, but it's...
jordan holmes
It's kind of about that.
dan friesen
The singular focus and how weak this fucking reporting is, it feels like you're pointing a finger for a reason.
jordan holmes
Don't make the subtext text.
dan friesen
Look how fucking weak this story is that Wayne Madsen brings to the fucking table.
alex jones
Would you say it's fair to say that Obama is signaling that he's going with the high-powered globalist arm, the Democratic Party and the neocons?
unidentified
Well, it seems that way to me.
The honeymoon, you know, they always talk about these honeymoons.
This honeymoon was over before they checked into the motel room.
dan friesen
Real quick, I also want to say...
jordan holmes
So it's not really a honeymoon.
dan friesen
I don't have a clip of this, but Wayne Madsen talks a whole bunch about how, like, I voted for Obama.
I gave him a chance.
It's been seven days.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
I don't know if he did or did not support Obama or vote for him, but if he did and he's flipped this quick, wow.
jordan holmes
Hey, I voted for him to bring back hope and change.
It's been a week.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Clearly he's not doing it.
dan friesen
Probably called Larry Nichols.
unidentified
Yeah.
I mean, this was never a honeymoon because Pelosi doesn't like Emmanuel.
Emmanuel, I don't know if you know about this, but the other day this was reported in the New York Times.
There was a cabinet meeting, and Emmanuel was sitting there at the cabinet meeting cracking his knuckles.
And Obama looked to him and said, Rom, I wish you would stop that.
I find that annoying.
Emmanuel gets up and cracks his knuckles right in Obama's ear.
Obama doesn't say anything.
He should have cleared the cabinet room out and said, look, everybody leave.
I need to have a discussion with him.
And right then and there he said, that's disrespectful to the office of the president.
alex jones
Oh, my God.
I haven't heard about this.
Wayne, Wayne, stay there.
I mean, Emmanuel's the guy that takes steak knives and goes, die, die, die while he's stabbing things.
Stay with us.
dan friesen
Okay.
So.
The story is that he cracked his knuckles at Obama.
jordan holmes
If true, what a delightfully petty move.
That is fantastic.
dan friesen
First of all, who cares?
Second of all...
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I care.
If this story is true, that is fucking funny as shit.
dan friesen
Can you imagine the...
jordan holmes
The balls...
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Can you imagine the shitty Twitter sphere?
jordan holmes
Excuse me, President of the United States, you're annoyed by my knuckle cracking?
Well...
Right in your ear.
dan friesen
Well, one of the functions of that is to try and present Obama as weak.
I think there's a part of it that's the subtext of that a little bit.
But then the second piece of it, imagine this fucking thing.
Like, right a week after the 2016 election, the Twitter sphere that is the propaganda against Donald Trump, let's say, the shitty, stupid dickholes, if their propaganda line was, Steve Bannon cracked his knuckles at Trump, What the fuck are you doing?
What are you doing?
That's your story?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's all we needed.
That's all we needed.
dan friesen
Boy, you gotta try harder.
That's real bad.
jordan holmes
They don't.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, look, if a tan suit is a Fox News story for two days, they do not have to try at all.
dan friesen
They talk.
jordan holmes
They don't give a shit.
They'll glom onto anything.
And if you already hate Obama, you're going to join in.
dan friesen
They talk about knuckle gate quite a bit on this episode.
They come back to it a couple times.
jordan holmes
Unacceptable.
dan friesen
Which is crazy.
But I think what's even crazier...
jordan holmes
The only thing I will accept...
Being called Knucklegate is a Jean-Claude Van Damme movie.
unidentified
Oh, that'd be good.
jordan holmes
When he becomes the president, but also has to fight in an underground...
dan friesen
Oh, shit!
Yes!
This would be great.
What's even greater is that in 2009, Wayne Madsen comes on Alex Jones' show, and he says a bunch of positive things about John Podesta.
Now, in present day...
jordan holmes
No problems with John Podesta at all.
dan friesen
Boy, I'll tell you what.
If Alex had any idea of what he would become, he wouldn't let Wayne Madsen say positive things about John Podesta.
As now, Alex Jones believes him to be the center of a pedophile network that kills children and scares them in order to get adrenochrome into their blood and drink it.
jordan holmes
Well, he didn't know that.
He didn't have the WikiLeaks yet.
dan friesen
But you know what?
Andrew Breitbart...
Wait, he's not dead yet in 2009, right?
He dies in 2012.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he does.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
Who knows?
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Fuck that guy.
dan friesen
But anyway, he says some positive things about John Podesta, and then he gets back to Rahm Emanuel.
Keep your mic down for this, because you need to hear how fucking hard Alex laughs fakely at something about Rahm.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think you know what it's going to be.
unidentified
And even John Podesta, who was the head of the transition team, interestingly enough, he was...
Clinton's chief of staff, he had the same job that Emmanuel has under Obama.
Podesta is nowhere to be found in this administration.
I know John Podesta, and he has a, you know, his...
Political ways and his mannerisms are 180 out from this guy Emanuel.
Emanuel is, you know, just a nasty guy.
And, you know, Obama talked about bringing change to Washington.
Well, this guy Emanuel is a former ballet dancer, not to impugn ballet dancers.
But anyway, this guy is like Karl Rove wearing a tutu.
Now, that's a good one right there, if it wasn't so horrible and so serious.
Yeah, the thought is not very good.
Yeah, there's not a very good visual on that.
alex jones
All right, getting back to the serious issues here, though.
unidentified
What a goddamn fake laugh.
jordan holmes
Ha-ha!
All right, now we've got to get back into some serious issues.
dan friesen
Is this how humans laugh?
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Is this how joy is expressed?
Oh, boy.
He does even more.
They come back to the well on the...
He's a ballet dancer.
Isn't that queer?
jordan holmes
The right wing is just never going to be funny.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
It's just never going to happen.
They just don't get it.
dan friesen
It's because, like, comedy comes from largely surprise and familiarity being blended together.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And they just don't understand.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
They don't understand how to get that synthesis together.
I'm not entirely sure why, but...
jordan holmes
He was a ballet dancer.
Gay.
Hilarious, right?
Why isn't everybody laughing?
No, because he's a ballet dancer.
unidentified
Boo!
dan friesen
Get off the stage!
jordan holmes
No, no, no, because a ballet dancer is supposed to be a woman.
unidentified
Boo!
jordan holmes
It's supposed to be a woman, but if it's not a woman...
dan friesen
Where's the juke?
jordan holmes
But everybody wants to have...
dan friesen
Hiss.
Boo.
I'm looking over my clips, and I realize that I labeled some of them accidentally December.
I don't know what I was doing when I was cutting clips.
jordan holmes
Listening to the Decemberists?
dan friesen
Anyway, interesting, John Podesta.
jordan holmes
It's been a long December.
dan friesen
It's appropriate that we start singing a little bit.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Because we're going to hear...
jordan holmes
We're going to get some singing?
dan friesen
I'm in.
I'll tell you what.
So, John Podesta is the exact opposite of Rahm Emanuel, and Rahm Emanuel is a nasty piece of work.
Therefore...
jordan holmes
But he's also a pansy.
dan friesen
But John Podesta is not.
So that's the logical conclusion you should take from that.
And then Alex thinks it's hilarious that this guy...
So a little bit later in the show, Alex Jones takes some more callers and he gets a call from a guy who sounds black.
And he says some bad things about Obama.
And then he's like...
Because it's the literal end of the show.
And the end music is starting to play.
And he's like...
Hey, look, the music was playing, so call in tomorrow so you can say that again.
I want to put it in my film.
alex jones
Great.
dan friesen
And so they do that.
We don't need to listen to all that.
It's unimportant.
The only thing that I think is funny is when he calls back in, he's like, yeah, you know, Obama, they need a black person to be president because they're vampires so they can take over and they can get into Africa because there's a black face on it and then they can steal their gold.
I'm like...
That's what Bob Chapman did.
jordan holmes
Trax.
dan friesen
It's like, you already have a friend who stole so much gold from Africa.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but they want to do it now.
dan friesen
It's not important, though, because January 28th.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
It will go down in history.
jordan holmes
Your second favorite episode of all time.
dan friesen
Let's put it at third, just in case I'm forgetting about one that was delightful.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But this is...
jordan holmes
I like the idea that...
So one of the policy wonks is going to message you later and just be like, your second favorite episode is not that one.
And you're going to be like, oh yeah, you're right.
dan friesen
Touche.
You're right.
jordan holmes
You know me better than I know myself.
dan friesen
This should give you a sense of why this is one of my favorite episodes.
alex jones
This is going to be one of the most important broadcasts I have ever done today.
It is the 28th day of January 2009.
I rescheduled a guest last week because I was covering...
The aftermath of the Obama coordination, Reverend Kevin Annette, who documents that they are still killing Native Americans in Canada.
dan friesen
So real quick, I just want to talk about this really quick.
He has an interview with Kevin Annette at the end of the show.
And I don't want to get into it.
Because it's really long, and I forgot to pull up all of the specifics, but Kevin Annette is a guy who is a lunatic, and he used to be a minister for the United Church of Canada.
And got excommunicated by them and they stripped him on their rolls.
jordan holmes
The United Church of Canada can excommunicate people?
dan friesen
Oh yeah, and they were like, get the fuck out.
He had a series of posts that he was at, and he kept getting kicked out of them.
jordan holmes
Does he go to purgatory, or is he not allowed to be buried in a United Church of Canada funeral?
dan friesen
He's a freeman on the land kind of guy, which is very similar to sovereign citizen shit.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
He's a monstrous...
He's a chemtrail guy.
He's a complete mess.
But his claim to fame, and the reason that he's on Alex Jones' shows, he's talking about a genocide that's gone on against natives in Canada.
And it's about, like, school buildings.
It's kind of complicated to get into, and I don't really want to, except to say that Native American tribes have written him cease and desist letters.
Like, the people that he's claiming to stand up for have written him and said, please do not use our name.
You don't speak for us.
Because they are in...
Concert with the United Church of Canada, which was the organization that had the school set up where he's claiming that there were, like, genocides being done to people.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And, uh...
jordan holmes
So he was excommunicated from even talking about First Nations.
dan friesen
Well, not...
No, he's excommunicated from the church and then told, keep our name out your mouth.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
By the Native people.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And he does not do that.
He keeps trying to use...
Attachments to Native folks in order to raise money and create things like the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State, which is basically just a blog he has that he acts like they can put out warrants and stuff like that.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
He is a complete lunatic.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And Alex has him on the show to talk about stuff.
And it's one of those things that, like, you kind of get a feeling immediately of, like...
Man, I kind of empathize.
You know, I bet there was some really bad things done to native people in Canada.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I have to assume there was.
I don't know a whole lot about Canadian history, but knowing what white people do...
jordan holmes
White people came.
dan friesen
Yeah, you know, it's...
jordan holmes
Problem solved.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Some horrible shit happened.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway...
jordan holmes
Even in Canada, the white man came, and that means horrible shit comes.
dan friesen
You get, like, empathic to the argument that he's making until you look more into him, and you're like, oh, this is a fucking con man.
jordan holmes
In which, like, you look into it, and you're like...
This guy is also part of the white man destroying Native American life.
dan friesen
Maybe worse.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe worse in some ways.
Maybe not.
jordan holmes
I doubt it.
dan friesen
It's hard to say.
Anyway, I don't give a shit.
We're going to leave him aside because Alex Jones has said this is going to be the most important broadcast he has ever done.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He wants you.
jordan holmes
I use an exclamation point in my notes, and I never do that.
dan friesen
Oh, my God.
That is tacky.
jordan holmes
I think exclamation points are terrible, but if it's this important...
dan friesen
This next clip is an audio exclamation point.
alex jones
Call your friends and family.
If they don't have an affiliate in their area, most Americans, 75% plus, have computers and Internet.
Tell them to tune in right now to Infowars.com on the audio streams or on the local AM or FM.
Tell people at Red Lights.
Tell them in stores.
Go knock on your neighbor's door right now.
Tell them to tune in to this.
We need to have the primitive mammalian response to something this serious of mobilization.
Mobilize.
Mobilize.
I'm going to cover this news coming up in 10 minutes.
jordan holmes
There's just no other way.
There's just no other thing to say at the end of that.
unidentified
Stop people at red lights screaming their car.
dan friesen
Go knock on your neighbor's door.
Call everyone you know because this is the shit.
Bow, bow.
So do you have any idea what's going on?
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
No?
jordan holmes
What, are they making a sequel to Ferris Bueller's Day Off?
dan friesen
Sir, that is not...
jordan holmes
Why would you play such incongruous music behind the most important announcement?
unidentified
That is the worst music to play behind that.
jordan holmes
That is the Benny Hill theme being played during the towers falling on 9-11.
dan friesen
Obama's been in office seven days.
You don't know what the most important news in the world is?
That Alex requires you to stop people at red lights?
jordan holmes
No, I don't.
dan friesen
Man, that's a bummer.
Well, I'm not going to tell you what it is either.
alex jones
In T-minus, five minutes, I'm going to launch with our top story.
And to say it's a news report really does it injustice.
It's a final piece of a puzzle.
It's exactly what I said they were doing.
We are exactly, precisely right about the entire infrastructure of what they're setting up.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
We have been completely dead on from our historical research and the government documents.
But the fact that they are now announcing it and pushing it exactly 100% as we said they would when they entered the final phase.
This is it.
This is it.
dan friesen
Don't make mistakes.
alex jones
This is it.
dan friesen
Do you understand?
jordan holmes
Is this it?
alex jones
And I'm not going to theatrically play air raid sirens in the background, but that frankly is what people should be hearing right now.
dan friesen
Make no mistake.
What you're doing is theatrical as fuck.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Don't fucking pretend you're taking a high road here.
jordan holmes
I don't understand what it is he thinks is going on.
That is not that theatrical.
alex jones
But it's so serious, I'm not going to add any theatrics in a pathetic attempt to try to get you to stir towards action.
unidentified
You just told everybody to tell their fucking neighbors.
alex jones
Call your friends, call your family, call your neighbors.
dan friesen
And again.
alex jones
Stop your car at the red light.
Park it.
Get out.
Tell people to tune in to the local AM or FM you're listening to.
Call your neighbors, your friends, your bosses.
Tell your co-workers this is too important.
They need to tune in right now on the audio streams at Infowars.com.
They need to hear this information.
Because I'm going to calmly go over it.
dan friesen
Okay.
So, he wants you to get in the middle of traffic.
Block people off and scream, Go to InfoWars!
jordan holmes
In a non-theatrical way.
dan friesen
It's very non-theatrical.
jordan holmes
In a very non-theatrical.
He would like you, first off, to write a sternly worded letter.
dan friesen
To the globalists.
jordan holmes
Right.
And then, whilst in traffic, begin handing it out politely.
If someone were to say no, you say, Of course not, sir.
And you continue going on.
But you leave your car at that red light.
dan friesen
Can I ask you if you've gleaned any context clues as to what he might be talking about?
jordan holmes
No!
He hasn't given any context clues!
dan friesen
He's going to calmly go over it.
I do know that.
Right.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Well, I'm still not going to tell you.
But he is of another story.
jordan holmes
Is it 9-11?
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
I've got another report here.
That is amazing out of Market Watch, the Wall Street Journal.
dan friesen
Real quick, Market Watch is not the Wall Street Journal.
jordan holmes
I was going to say.
dan friesen
I was right there.
They're both owned by the same company, but they're not the same publication.
alex jones
See, everything is go date now.
They're now unveiling it all because they're going with it.
When they unveiled it.
jordan holmes
What are they going with?
alex jones
It's go day.
This isn't the big story, but it ties in.
Normally, this would be the big story of the day.
How realistic is a North American currency?
Question mark.
Wall Street Journal.
Commentary.
Uniting U.S., Canada, Mexico money could result from crisis.
jordan holmes
Right.
alex jones
Now, that's the Wall Street Journal.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
It's market watch.
alex jones
And I told you.
dan friesen
He told you.
So I looked up that article and I found it.
And there's some interesting things in this article.
jordan holmes
Thank God for the internet being archived.
dan friesen
Man, this article doesn't say anything like what he's saying.
The article is, like, first of all, I got red flags all over Market Watch.
Because this guy who's writing, it's in the opinion section.
jordan holmes
Was it Kissinger?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I just saw that he wrote something in the Atlantic and that's why...
dan friesen
I didn't recognize this guy's name.
But he was, like, he starts out with, like, now that we're in the grip of the New World Order, I'm like, nope, red flight, red flight.
jordan holmes
Market Watch published that?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But it was, again, in the opinion section.
jordan holmes
It should have been in the letters to the editor section and the very back of Vanity Fair.
dan friesen
Let me read to you from this article about, is a North American currency realistic?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Quote, if this dynamic plays out, and I've got no insight that it will.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait.
You threw that clause in there?
unidentified
Yeah.
Alright, alright, alright.
dan friesen
The global balance of powers would fragment into four primary regions.
North America, Europe, Asia, and the Middle East.
jordan holmes
Time zones.
dan friesen
I don't know about that as a breakdown either.
In such a scenario, ramifications would manifest through social unrest and geopolitical conflict.
This particular path isn't something one would wish for, but the cumulative imbalances that's steadily built in our finance-based economy must be resolved one way or another.
Therein lies the critical crossroads we together face as our wary world attempts to find its way.
Scary?
Yes.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Probable?
jordan holmes
Why?
unidentified
Probable?
dan friesen
Not so much.
At least for the time being.
Possible?
Certainly.
Although, I'll again offer that it could take years before the pieces of this prickly puzzle fall into place.
jordan holmes
Have I said anything?
dan friesen
No.
Effective money management dictates weighing the entire probability spectrum of potential outcomes and factoring them into our decision-making process.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So this guy literally is saying, is this likely?
Nah.
Nah.
jordan holmes
He has written an opinion column.
That does not express an opinion.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It's wishy-washy.
Does not use information of any kind.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is all just pure rampant speculation.
dan friesen
It includes the clause, I have no insight into this.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's Alex's story that would be the main story.
jordan holmes
Huge disclaimer before this article continues.
I have no idea what I'm talking about, and I'm making this bullshit up.
dan friesen
So this is not the main story.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
On any other day, it would be.
jordan holmes
That's true.
It is weak enough to be the main story.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
And it's got a good enough headline for Alex to have not read the entire article.
jordan holmes
Is a North American currency possible?
Shrug.
dan friesen
Yeah, no one's into it, but I guess.
Anyway, we still don't know what the story is, the main story.
jordan holmes
But I have called my friends and family.
dan friesen
But in this next clip, Alex is not one for theatrics, but perhaps does...
One of the most embarrassingly theatrical things I've ever seen on this fucking show.
This, like, this is mic down.
Because this, when I was listening to this episode, like, I blurt laughed.
Sitting alone in my apartment, I was like, ha ha ha, you asshole!
You are so stupid!
This made me laugh harder than maybe anything I've heard on Alex's show in the past.
jordan holmes
You are playing this up.
This better deliver.
alex jones
In the last 15 minutes, I've been begging you and asking you.
To call your friends, your family, your neighbors.
We need to have a huge response to this.
This needs to go ultra, mega viral on the web.
And what needs to go viral is the proper analysis of what has just occurred.
Because the establishment is putting it out viral with their spin on it exactly as we said they would put their spin on it.
We have to counter that so the unsophisticated public has a chance to understand and see how diabolical this is.
Get everybody's attention.
We're going to have 20 seconds of silence right now before I go into this unbelievable report because it is the final Peace.
It's like tumblers on a safe locking in position in the door opening.
unidentified
You can already be doing the 20 seconds!
alex jones
This is absolute confirmation of the entire enemy attack profile.
jordan holmes
Let's go!
alex jones
You understand?
jordan holmes
No!
alex jones
Let's have a moment of silence for the Republic.
dan friesen
He only ends up hitting like 13 seconds.
It's still long.
Feels real long.
unidentified
Feels real long.
alex jones
All right.
Here it is, ladies and gentlemen.
An article by Paul Joseph Watson at PrisonPlanet.com.
Last night's top story.
New legislation authorizes FEMA camps in the United States.
Now let's stop right there before I get into the article.
dan friesen
Yeah, I better stop.
That to me is...
jordan holmes
The biggest news that requires not just a moment of silence, but frankly, by my count, between 14 and 16 moments of silence.
Yeah.
Is an article that was written yesterday.
dan friesen
By Paul Joseph Watson.
jordan holmes
By Paul Joseph Watson.
unidentified
Gotcha.
jordan holmes
Gotcha!
It needs to go super mega viral.
Because they already made it viral their way.
dan friesen
This, dude, like, this clip is a ways into the episode.
So, like, I'm hearing him tease this bullshit of, like, stop traffic, call your mom.
jordan holmes
Burn it down.
dan friesen
I know you haven't talked to your mom in years.
Call her.
She still needs to know this is the most important thing.
jordan holmes
Everybody gather around a 1970s TV store and stand and stare at the TVs in the window as it plays this show.
dan friesen
Can you imagine?
Can you imagine the experience of me listening to all that build-up and like, what the fuck's going on here?
Oh, what's this?
What's this?
But something exciting is going on.
And then, like, there's these commercial breaks that I still have to listen to.
He's selling gold-dipped roses.
He's selling tchotchkes on the show.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Roses dipped in gold.
jordan holmes
That sounds sexy.
dan friesen
Crazy.
Also, the memory scam commercials are still going.
unidentified
Can you eat it?
dan friesen
No.
Absolutely don't eat it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But there's like, it's just so long, and then he comes back on air, and he's like, we have a 20-second moment of silence for the Republic, because the Republic is dead.
And then that long pause, and when he comes back, he's like, there's a story by Paul Joseph Austin.
I'm like, you son of a bitch!
You got me again, Jones!
unidentified
It's just like, what the fuck, man?
dan friesen
I should have known.
jordan holmes
You should have known.
You should have known.
dan friesen
So anyway, Paul Joseph Watson wrote this article, but Alex wasn't saying what this bill is.
I mean, he won't.
He won't.
jordan holmes
But it's the death of the Republic.
dan friesen
He still isn't going to say what it is.
jordan holmes
He even said, we need to reach the dum-dum so they have a chance.
dan friesen
He doesn't say what the name of the bill is.
He doesn't talk about any specifics, but he does.
Man, he...
This is one of the...
If this description that Alex is about to give was real, boy, it'd be scary.
alex jones
Now, the reason this bill is so key is that it lays out how they're going to sell Americans going into the camps and the infrastructure and architecture.
It's going to be set up under the NAFTA superhighways, which will be armored grids, how they're going to lock down the cities, everything.
The clergy response teams.
Remember three years ago?
Two different pastors.
Broke right here on the Genesis Network.
Secret FEMA documents.
Not for disclosure.
13,000 secretly recruited preachers to give sermons telling their flock to turn in their guns, take forced inoculations, go to camps.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, he still hasn't said...
jordan holmes
Please refer back to Ezekiel.
Chapter 11, verse 14. Give up your guns.
Submit to inoculations.
Even though those haven't been invented yet, we heard from Daniel.
Inoculations.
dan friesen
Daniel saw the future.
jordan holmes
Daniel got that one done.
Also, you know what?
Why not?
There's going to be a road.
Watch out for it.
dan friesen
He hasn't said what the bill is yet, so we're not going to talk about it.
I will say it's really important that he's so goddamn afraid of FEMA camps.
And, like, he's so...
Like, I legitimately think...
I haven't listened to too much after this, but I suspect this might be when his brain broke.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think we're...
Like, this episode, I think it's all downhill from here.
jordan holmes
This is the one.
dan friesen
I think that he...
jordan holmes
This is our crest to begin the decrescendo.
dan friesen
I think he might believe his bullshit to a certain extent.
And, like...
Actually, I don't fully believe that.
But I think that this is a very useful way for him to descend, in a way.
I don't know.
I'll flesh that out in future episodes as we get more information.
But I do think this is a massive turning point.
Yes.
jordan holmes
Well, there was a 16-moment minute of silence for the Republic.
dan friesen
But right now, we need to be clear.
We're looking at this in 2009.
We talk about what's going on in 2018.
We have a situation where ICE is separating families and putting children into, like, military warehouses.
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That sort of thing.
jordan holmes
Actually, they would prefer to be in FEMA camps.
At least they would be fucking...
dan friesen
Any conversation of Alex Jones and his history, like all this peddling fear about white people being put into FEMA camps and they're coming for the patriots.
jordan holmes
White people.
dan friesen
And stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Put the rest of them in camps.
dan friesen
If you believe that and you think it's so goddamn inhuman and disgusting and you are defended by what ICE is doing right now.
Right.
unidentified
And what your guy, Trump, is presiding over.
dan friesen
Because that is...
jordan holmes
No, not separating white families.
dan friesen
We are witnessing...
jordan holmes
Whiteness is rightness, Dan.
dan friesen
We are witnessing essentially...
Now, granted, at this point, where we are present day in 2018, we are not witnessing a race camp.
But we are...
We're witnessing something that gets close.
jordan holmes
Terrifyingly internment campy.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
And it's something that is so absolutely antithetical to his stated...
And the fact that he doesn't bring it up ever.
jordan holmes
White.
dan friesen
The fact that he doesn't bring it up ever is so fucking crazy.
jordan holmes
Not white, people.
dan friesen
When I listened to this in 2009...
jordan holmes
Not white!
dan friesen
When I listen to this in present day, this episode from 2009, where he's doing this 20 minutes, 20 seconds of silence for the Republic, I'm like, you fucking dick.
You son of a bitch.
So anyway, the clergy response team.
Have you heard about this?
jordan holmes
No, but I would watch that show.
dan friesen
So this all goes back to a preacher named Walt Mansfield.
He's a guy who likes to call himself Pastor Revere.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I heard that.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Refuse.
dan friesen
He's been warning about the imminent NWO takeover since at least 2006.
jordan holmes
It's not that imminent, then.
dan friesen
I've read a bunch of interviews with him and articles, and all of them link back to an interview and an article about him on Prison Planet from May 24, 2006, written by Paul Joseph Watson.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
All of it traces back to Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
All of this is based on paranoia about the Bible verse Romans 13, which says that all power on earth has bestowed its power through God.
So that is, you know, it's along the same veins as the give to Caesar what's Caesar's kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Can we just get, like, some of the reverses?
Can we get some of the reverses?
The verses?
unidentified
Reverses.
jordan holmes
Can we get some of the verses, like, removed just for, like...
dan friesen
We need a new council of Nicaea?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, just a couple.
Just a couple of verses removed and things change a lot.
Why is it that a 14-word sentence hinges people's horrific worldviews?
dan friesen
Well, here's the thing.
See, anti-government cranks, they have a tough time with that scripture because it does seem like you should submit to the authorities of the world or whatever because they have been bestowed through God.
So in order to deflect from that scripture, they've created an entire conspiracy around the government using the scripture to enlist pastors to pacify their congregations and get them to accept the New World Order.
I can find no concrete evidence of this program, though I have searched, and all of the links and documentary evidence in Paul Joseph Watson's article is just unsubstantiated rumors.
jordan holmes
Dan, this has to do with religion.
Stop searching the internet.
And start searching within you and your relationship to God.
dan friesen
I have, and I haven't found anything.
jordan holmes
You will see the truth of this.
dan friesen
I haven't found anything searching my heart.
jordan holmes
We see through a glass darkly, Dan.
dan friesen
Everything is completely vague and based on Infowars history.
jordan holmes
Because you're seeing through the darkly!
dan friesen
It's completely unbelievable.
Quote, this is a quote from Paul Joseph Watson's article.
We've received confirmation from other preachers and pastors that this program is a nationwide initiative.
How many?
And...
A literal Soviet model, wherein the churches are being systematically infiltrated by government volunteers and used as conduits for martial law training and conditioning.
The pastor was told that over 1,300 counties were already on board.
So that's where Alex gets his 1,300 pastors number that he used in the last one.
It's through this Pastor Walt Mansfield, a.k.a.
Pastor Revere.
jordan holmes
Pastors are assigned by county.
You didn't know that, but it's within the Protestant Reformation.
Martin Luther himself said, we will assign pastors by county.
If you gerrymander your county lines, you will not get the pastor that you hoped for.
dan friesen
It's all horseshit.
It's all nonsense.
And I didn't know any of that because I've always just been like...
Clergy response teams, whatever.
jordan holmes
I love the name clergy response team, though.
dan friesen
It rolls off my back like water off a duck.
jordan holmes
It sounds like they're about to get into action at any point in time.
I imagine just a series of just like...
40 preachers in a convent or something along those lines, but with, like, the giant fire station doors, like, just sitting out there the way firemen do it at 11 p.m. all smoking cigarettes, and then they get the call, and the clergy all put on their fireproof masks, and they jump into the clergy mobile, and they fucking respond to things as a team, Dan.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex still doesn't want to tell you what the fuck this bill is called.
alex jones
Calling all patriots.
Calling all patriots.
This is not a drill.
For those that love the republic, the enemy is publicly unveiling their program under infrastructure protection.
jordan holmes
This is the clergy response team's theme song.
alex jones
Turn every major city into a checkpoint, face-scanned, troops on the street corner control grid with domestic spies everywhere with millions of Americans being taken to forced labor camps.
It is in the bill.
New legislation authorizes FEMA camps in U.S. Still not saying the name of the goddamn bill.
dan friesen
Not giving anyone any kind of information.
jordan holmes
It's in the bill!
dan friesen
It's in the bill, but Alex does not want you to find it.
jordan holmes
It's in the bill!
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, we're going to play a new game on the podcast.
jordan holmes
What's in the bill?
dan friesen
Name the episode that this clip reminds you of.
Very, very specific name.
jordan holmes
That's a bad thing to ask me.
dan friesen
But I think you can actually nail this one.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I'm having one of those senior moments.
David, what's the mall off I-35 in North Austin?
Your wife saw it and told you about it and then I Googled it and sure enough it was there and I went over there and it's a FEMA center now.
dan friesen
Real quick, that's not the end of the clip.
So hold your answer.
I think he's snapping at David Knight.
I think David Knight's around, but he's not on camera yet.
jordan holmes
That's when David Knight is just around?
dan friesen
Because you're saying David.
I don't know who the other David Knight is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but there's so many other Davids.
There's so many other Davids.
dan friesen
I just want to follow people's origin stories.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but David Knight is old enough at this point where he wouldn't just accept Alex Jones.
David!
David!
dan friesen
Are you kidding?
jordan holmes
Bring me...
dan friesen
Are you kidding?
jordan holmes
Bring me Walter David!
dan friesen
Are you kidding?
That guy is a cock!
jordan holmes
That's a fair point.
dan friesen
Anyway, David Knight's getting snapped at in my headcanon.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Well, there's Lakeline.
There's Martin Creek.
Highland Mall.
Highland Mall.
Highland Mall is now...
Go over there.
They're there.
jordan holmes
Call your friends?
alex jones
The uniforms come over with guns and say, get out of here.
I mean, they're there right now.
And over at the old airport, they've got a hangar with bolts and chains on the floors of the American people.
And admit it.
Admit it's for you.
That's right down the road.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, I now ask you, what episode of our podcast does that remind you of?
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with...
It's some number, but it's a number that can be expressed through letters.
It's one of those...
They're taking them to the airport, right?
dan friesen
There's chains, shackles.
jordan holmes
Chains, shackles.
Space Command is probably involved.
dan friesen
They're in play.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
I'm going to go with Y2K, Dan.
dan friesen
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We are a 70s game show.
If you were a lady, it would have been a washing machine.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I swear to God, this would be a way better show if we had those 70s microphones that are eight feet long.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
With the tiny little...
Oh, yeah.
Give it all day.
dan friesen
The match game.
jordan holmes
I dream of having enough money to travel around as a headliner with only one of those mics.
dan friesen
It's the best mic in the business.
jordan holmes
So good.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex is recycling a Y2K narrative in 2009.
That's real fun.
So here we go.
Alex Jones finally in this next clip says the name of the bill.
And I want to say, this is two hours and ten minutes into the show.
jordan holmes
After you've called your friends and your family, stopped people on the street, listened to Alex discuss, Directions and street names.
Snap it.
dan friesen
What are those malls?
jordan holmes
You know, the place off of Martin Luther King Jr.
Drive?
Which one is it?
dan friesen
By the way, we've got to go down to that mall while winter Austin.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
That'd be great.
dan friesen
I'm not scared.
Anyway, Alex finally says the name of the goddamn fucking bill in this next...
Boy, that was too much obscenity.
I apologize.
jordan holmes
Nah, you're fine.
dan friesen
Excuse me.
alex jones
And this other article here, new legislation authorizes FEMA camps in the United States, H.R. 645.
So we'll get into that happy stuff for you as well.
Everything's wonderful here.
dan friesen
So we finally get the name of the bill.
jordan holmes
House Resolution 600.
dan friesen
And 45. This is also known as the National Emergency Center's Establishment Act.
We've already gone over this a hundred times.
jordan holmes
Oh, this is the one we've already done.
dan friesen
Yeah, we've talked about this a bunch.
jordan holmes
The one he's railed about for years now.
dan friesen
Yep, and we've read over all of this, and it doesn't say any of the stuff that Alex says it does.
But what's really fun about it, and this is the thing that I always need to remind people about, in the same way that Alex is like...
Like, businesses can't be constrained by the government regulations at all.
Why does this guy have to die in his home because it's cold and he can't pay his bills?
Like, that sort of disconnect would apply with a situation like this, wherein they're setting up...
Places where, in terms of a large-scale disaster, people could be housed, people could be taken care of, there could be emergency services available to them.
He's so mad about the idea of it, but if that disaster happens...
jordan holmes
Right, like a hurricane that was about to hit New Orleans.
dan friesen
But if that disaster happens and those services aren't available, he would be like, how dare this government not take care of people?
He plays both sides of this, and it's fucking nonsense.
And the other thing that's really important to consider is...
jordan holmes
I hate paying taxes, but somebody needs to fix these roads.
There are a lot of potholes.
dan friesen
So this episode of Alex Jones' show is January 28, 2009.
That is a full six days after this bill was introduced, H.R. 645, by Representative Hastings from Florida.
And you know what?
It died in committee.
It never got out of committee.
Because of course it didn't.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Of course it didn't.
jordan holmes
Because Pastor Revere got the word out.
dan friesen
He did, absolutely.
I think more of the issue is that if you scroll down far enough, you find the amount of money it would cost.
And that was prohibitive.
It's like $180 million or some shit.
jordan holmes
That's not that bad.
dan friesen
No, it's not that bad, but people don't want to prioritize that shit.
jordan holmes
The more I think about the name Pastor Revere, it's not that bad.
It's not that bad.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
That's like an 80s comic.
dan friesen
Interesting pivot for you to make.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
It's just...
It's not about...
You know, Paul Revere, Pastor Revere, I don't mind it.
I think it's a solid name.
dan friesen
He gave a warning.
Anyway, this is...
All of this has been a build-up for...
This is Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Scratch that.
Does he ride a horse?
dan friesen
Name Paul Revere.
Oh.
Anyway, look.
This is crazy.
This is crazy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's lunacy.
dan friesen
Because this bill...
Was suggested.
Had no support.
Didn't get out of committee.
Didn't even get voted on.
Alex is like, this is the end of the Republic.
Let's have a 20 second pause.
jordan holmes
Moment of silence.
dan friesen
It hasn't happened since.
It's not like it's happened.
Alex, this is still part of his career.
To present day.
He still talks about the Emergency Center's Establishment Act.
This is a pivotal moment in his career.
unidentified
This January 28th, 2009.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
This is where he gets one of his big pieces of propaganda.
This might as well be Waco for him.
Because he's like, oh, fuck.
They want to put people in camps?
I got this.
Give me the ball, coach.
I'm going to run.
I'm going to fucking run like a Forrest Gump.
jordan holmes
Touchdown.
dan friesen
I'm going to keep running.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
Anyway.
We get...
Done with Alex's breakdown of this.
He just says a bunch of, like, really scary stuff about the bill.
He just tries to make everyone really afraid.
jordan holmes
It's the worst.
dan friesen
And then he has an interview with a lawyer, because he's still also spinning.
Like, he's a guy who likes to keep a couple plates spinning.
He was one of those guys with, like, four or five plates.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Propaganda plates at a time.
jordan holmes
Get them in the air.
dan friesen
And so he has one, that one from earlier about the lady who spilled her Bloody Mary on the plane.
Her kid spilled the Bloody Mary and she yelled at her.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I recall.
dan friesen
So he has a lawyer on to talk about that.
alex jones
Great.
dan friesen
And they talk about it.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Does this lawyer eventually become his lawyer?
dan friesen
It's a zero.
The interview is a zero.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But in the middle of it.
jordan holmes
He's talking to a lawyer.
dan friesen
In the middle of it, Alex Jones kind of slips up, accidentally says something that I don't think most people would recognize as being super fucked up.
alex jones
But sir, was it a privilege to ride a horse down the road?
I mean, when they brought in cars, you know, they started taxes on trucks, saying they were messing up the roads, made them get licenses, then the people did.
Well, I have the court rulings, and I'm sure you've seen them, that prior to those rulings in the 20s, it was not a privilege to travel.
dan friesen
It was not a privilege to travel.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
dan friesen
Does that mean anything to you?
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
That's because you have not studied sovereign citizens.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
Alex Jones is espousing literally a sovereign citizen line.
Whenever you watch any video of sovereign citizens getting arrested for not having a fucking driver's license while they're driving, they're like, I'm not driving, I'm traveling.
The Constitution guarantees the right to travel.
In courts, they've decided that what that means, the interpretation is that you have the right to go between states.
You have the right to wander about as you see fit.
The sovereign citizens believe that if you're not carrying cargo, you're not driving.
You're traveling in an automobile.
And so therefore, you don't need the government to certify you to be able to.
I don't need a license.
I'm traveling.
So there's all these videos of cops being like, do you know how fast you were driving?
I was like, I was traveling.
How fast do you think you're traveling?
jordan holmes
I love it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's crazy.
jordan holmes
There's so many of those little, like, uh, guess what?
We got this loophole.
You guys don't have any jurisdiction.
dan friesen
Yeah, gold chalet around the flag.
jordan holmes
There's no higher power in the land than the local sheriff.
Why?
Why?
Even if the Constitution explicitly said that, everybody's going to be like, eh, but that's dumb.
dan friesen
The Constitution wasn't written when there were cars.
And also...
Go fuck yourself.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's crazy because Alex likes to pretend that he's a libertarian.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And all that stuff.
But the more and more we look at it, it does seem like there's more similarities with him and these guys who end up fucking shooting cops a lot.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, in this next clip, also from the...
We're still on the 28th.
Alex Jones, he talks about hip-hop a little bit.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
And I'm troubled.
jordan holmes
KRS-One?
dan friesen
I am troubled.
alex jones
Now it turns out one of the top guys in Public Enemy came out.
And I didn't even know this.
I saw some other videos.
He's a fan of the show.
dan friesen
Who do you think that is?
Is it Terminator X?
Is it Flavor Flav?
Is it Chuck D?
Or is it Professor Graf?
jordan holmes
I could see Flavor Flav doing it.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, it's Professor Griff.
jordan holmes
It's Professor Griff.
dan friesen
It's the guy who said that Jews are to blame for all the problems in the world.
Then he got kicked out of Public Enemy, and there's like, ha, shit, I'm really sorry about that.
Also, I still think gays are fucked up.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, it was the 90s.
dan friesen
Not great.
Not great.
jordan holmes
Nah.
dan friesen
Not great.
jordan holmes
Nah.
dan friesen
Fucking shit.
jordan holmes
You don't like to remember that part of Public Enemy's past.
dan friesen
Anyway, one of the things that's really interesting is that what we're looking at is the differences and the similarities between 2009 and 2018.
And I found a probably expected similarity between Alex Jones through these nine years of history, and that is kind of still fetishizes violence.
alex jones
You ever grown up in life and bullies when you were 13, 14 years old?
You know, they might be 18 or beating you up.
And finally, you just learn how to get mad.
It's always kind of good when somebody starts a fight with you and you're kind of worried about that first punch next to your head and you just...
I mean, you just fire up.
Now you're going to get it!
And then those cowards, the bullies, all of a sudden go, because they can tell it's ass-whooping time.
Huge can of whoop-ass is about to be open.
Well, we are going to kick the New World Order's butt.
Satan, he comes as a man of peace.
Stop being suckers.
dan friesen
There is Alex singing along a little bit, but it is just his loving violence.
jordan holmes
The masturbation to the idea of justified violence, I can only think is a precursor to unjustified violence.
dan friesen
Generally, or really wanting to...
jordan holmes
I want to kill a man, but I know I can't just kill a man.
So I'm dreaming of the day where a man gives me a reason to kill a man, and it's fine.
That's what it is.
dan friesen
And so that's similar.
jordan holmes
Has anybody introduced Alex to Call of Duty?
Like, maybe he could sublimate his inherent need for murder by just killing Nazis.
Like, has he considered killing Nazis?
Well, you're right.
He would be way on the side of the Nazi zombies in Call of Duty or whatever.
dan friesen
And also, one of his big things is that the use of video games in professional football...
Are taking away the warlike tendencies of men in order to make it so they can't fight against the New World Order.
jordan holmes
Right.
Now, if that is true, could we do that, Alex?
Could we just do that for you?
dan friesen
I would love it.
Because, in this next clip, another similarity.
jordan holmes
He just wants to live in Grand Theft Auto.
That's what he really wants to do.
He just wants to walk around LA in God mode and just get five stars and never bother with anyone.
dan friesen
He wants the plot to be different.
He wants it to be similar to The Fugitive, but with the game functionality of Grand Theft Auto, probably.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, I am unjustly being accused of a crime.
jordan holmes
Or more like Death Wish.
He's going for...
dan friesen
No, no.
No, because in Death Wish 3, he makes friends with an old Jew.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's true.
That's true.
That would never scratch.
dan friesen
I've watched Death Wish.
I've watched all of them.
I'm so glad I could pull that.
Death with Three is the best of the Death Wishes.
I will not stand for anyone arguing otherwise.
jordan holmes
There's never a dearth of enjoyment when it comes to your pop culture trivia knowledge.
dan friesen
Me and Nikki Gifts, probably in the chat room still, we watched all five movies back-to-back one night.
jordan holmes
That's two.
dan friesen
They were on, I don't remember what channel it was on, but we had a case of beer and just got fucked up and watched all five Death Wish movies in a row.
Made a beer amid out of the empty cans.
It was the best time ever.
jordan holmes
Now, that is our next endgame right there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's time for us to really get into the weeds of the Death Wish franchise.
dan friesen
I'll do commentary tracks on Death Wish.
Anyway, we have one more clip from the 28th here.
And this is, again, another similarity between modern and past Alex Jones.
And that is, like, sick fucking fantasies that he has.
And this is disturbing on a whole bunch of levels.
And one of the levels is, pay attention, there is a girl woman on the phone, a caller, who keeps being like, okay.
Okay.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
And she seems a little bit scared of the things that are coming out of Alex's mouth.
And rightfully so.
alex jones
See, and so they've got to acclimate the troops and the military.
All that, well, it's a camp.
We're here giving them food.
We had a problem at the camp.
We had to take the guy that wanted to leave.
We had to ship him to one of the more secure camps.
Well, where did Bob go?
Are you causing a problem under the Patriot Act?
We have zero tolerance.
You heard that lawyer, top lawyer last hour, say arguing with any of them is at least 20 years in prison.
He said that's the sentence.
20 years in prison for talking to them.
All right, you're arguing?
We're taking your children to this area.
They're getting shots.
Sir?
Sir, America's in trouble.
We're just trying to do our job.
This is exactly how it's going to be.
He calls a disturbance, send him to Camp 7, and then they'll put you on a helicopter, fly you 100 miles, and there it'll be, you son of a bitch, you want to cause problems?
Come here, Jones!
Knock your teeth out, you son of a bitch!
I used to see your website, and I used to come...
You son of a bitch!
Yeah, we rule America!
Hell yeah!
And that's what it's about, stealing and grabbing and snatching and just doing whatever they want.
Well, it isn't going to happen.
unidentified
I know.
alex jones
I'm not going to be in there with those pieces of filth with their dogs and they're torturing people.
I'm not going to be part of it.
It isn't happening.
unidentified
I know.
Thank you, Alex.
alex jones
Thank you.
I almost broke my hand there.
dan friesen
That's so fucked up.
That's so fucked up.
unidentified
I think I just heard the worst sex I've ever heard.
dan friesen
If Alex was just doing that alone...
That would be really fucked up.
But the fact that he had someone else on the line and she was like, I know.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Thanks, Alex.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, that is so profoundly fucked up.
jordan holmes
That was a date in college where it was going well until like 11 whenever he started doing a lot of coke and you're like, oh shit, I'm not going to get anything out of this from here on out.
dan friesen
I've got to find a way out.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Can I hang up?
Uh, shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, I know.
dan friesen
Oh, I'm sorry you broke your hand getting really mad about nothing, about a bill that doesn't even make it out of committee.
jordan holmes
No, but thank you.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Alex.
dan friesen
Thanks for fighting.
jordan holmes
God, it must suck to be that.
dan friesen
To be Alex?
jordan holmes
To be both of them.
dan friesen
Yeah, no shit.
jordan holmes
To be both of them.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a tragic existence for everybody involved.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
We are now on to the 29th of January 2009.
And I want to say one thing real quick, real clearly, real public.
Yes.
I have received the criticism from the chat, not the chat room, but the group, the Facebook group that we have.
jordan holmes
You're so sensitive and defensive.
dan friesen
No, I'm not defensive about it at all, because I actually think it's fairly accurate.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That we indulge a little too much in how much it's fun that Alex sings.
jordan holmes
That is criticism?
unidentified
Do you know what we go through?
jordan holmes
Why can't we just enjoy a fucking sing-along for now and time again?
dan friesen
There's an argument to be made that we're dealing with a harsh, awful propagandist and we're being suckered in by this...
jordan holmes
The highway bed.
dan friesen
Right.
There is an argument to be made to that.
And my response to that...
is on the 29th, Alex Jones sings the entire song.
unidentified
I was a highway man Along the coach roads I did ride Don't let it be said that we didn't fight tyranny.
alex jones
Don't let it be said that many of us didn't see it coming.
Didn't do the best job we could to warn our fellow humans.
dan friesen
I want to be really clear.
Real quick, we are going to listen to all of this for a very specific reason.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But also, I want to say this.
It's the same song.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
Over and over again.
jordan holmes
Oh, I know.
dan friesen
It's not that he keeps singing over other songs, which he does sometimes.
There was the Eastbound and Down.
jordan holmes
Right.
That was great.
dan friesen
There was Silver Stallion.
jordan holmes
Fun.
dan friesen
But I would say...
80% of episodes, it's Highwaymen.
It's like, he just has to sing along.
It's like a guy who goes to karaoke every week and does the same song.
jordan holmes
I think it's what's going on.
You're turning me into liking Sasha Banks' theme song.
Just the fact that we listen to it so often, eventually you just start getting inured to it.
dan friesen
Right, it takes on a different context for you.
And this is Alex who's like, here's how I don't work for three minutes.
Anyway, back to it.
alex jones
The Bastards hung me.
unidentified
But I am still alive.
alex jones
They will be remembered as tyrants.
And those of us that fought them as lovers of liberty.
With a sea I did abide.
dan friesen
Chris Christopherson!
unidentified
I sailed a scooter around the horn of Mexico.
I went aloft to furrow the mainsail and I'll blow.
And when the yachts broke off, they said that I got killed.
alex jones
But I'm a limit still.
I was a damn builder.
Across the river deep and wide.
unidentified
We're stealing water to collide.
A place called Boulder Island.
jordan holmes
What is happening right now?
What is happening?
dan friesen
Wait for it.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
unidentified
Wait.
Wait.
jordan holmes
Now you just want to sing along to this song!
dan friesen
I was vamping because I know this is the best part coming up with Alex.
alex jones
I love Johnny Cash.
unidentified
I fly a starship.
I fly a starship.
Across the universe divine.
And when I reach the other side, I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can.
Perhaps I may become a highwayman again.
Or I may simply be a single drop of rain, but I will remain.
I will remain.
And I'll be back again and again and again.
alex jones
Good guys will be back again and again to fight evil or progeny.
Just like our ancestors fought him and evil will be back again and again.
And it is the eternal contest.
But evil is eternally playing the part of the loser.
The pitiful losers.
Satan is a cosmic con artist, as my grandfather would call him.
A great loser.
dan friesen
Okay.
That was three plus minutes of his fucking show that he dedicated...
The day after, he did a 20-second moment of silence for the death of the Republic.
jordan holmes
What else is there to do at the end of the Republic?
Just fucking sing your heart out.
dan friesen
And I promise you, I'm not being petty and being a dick about people saying we play shit like that too much.
I promise there's a...
jordan holmes
I think you were a little bit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
30%.
70% is a clip I'm going to play later.
I promise.
There's a method to my madness.
There's a reason I play that.
jordan holmes
When he sings it twice?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I was halfway waiting for him to just go to break at the end of that.
Just be like, alright, we're back from break.
Alright, we're going to go to break now.
dan friesen
I will say that I have heard episodes where he does an entire break just doing ads.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He goes from commercial to commercial just doing commercials.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I would love it if he did just like that.
Like just singing.
jordan holmes
Just do three or four tracks.
Three or four tracks.
Nobody's asking for a ton from you.
dan friesen
Or even one, do Stairway to Heaven.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck yeah.
dan friesen
That could make it through one of the radio breaks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and you could do your shit talking over the guitar parts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That'd be a great way to go.
unidentified
Alex, let us book your show.
dan friesen
In my book, I mean script, I guess.
jordan holmes
Nobody would run InfoWars better than we would.
They just don't know how to be propagandists.
dan friesen
We would bring in a professional wrestling sensibility on my side and an anger on your side.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
We would be unstoppable if we only ran InfoWars.
It's terrible.
This is why we're not destined for success, Dan.
We're not utilizing our talents to hit the right people.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
It's a problem.
jordan holmes
We're too interested with reasonable, loving, kind people.
dan friesen
And just goofing on clowns.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Clowning on fools.
Oh, God, yeah.
Oh, Reverend Hexar, good call.
Freebird.
That's what he should do.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, yeah.
That's too on the nose.
dan friesen
Yeah, but that would take him break to break, for sure.
That would.
jordan holmes
I could see him doing Hotel California.
dan friesen
In his next clip, Alex realizes that, like...
jordan holmes
How long is Hotel California?
dan friesen
Pretty long.
jordan holmes
It is still being recorded.
Shout out to Matt Drafke.
dan friesen
It's his birthday when we're recording.
jordan holmes
It is his birthday today.
dan friesen
Happy birthday, Matt Drafke.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I had to let him know.
dan friesen
I know this is coming out Wednesday, but happy birthday, bro.
Anyway, in this next clip, Alex realizes he needs backup.
jordan holmes
In the spaceship, I do right.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Anyways, what?
dan friesen
The fight is coming, and he needs backup.
unidentified
The fight is coming, and he needs some backup.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the...
jordan holmes
Anything by Michael McDonald.
That would be great for Alex's range.
That would be great for his range, though.
dan friesen
But he doesn't like Yacht Rock.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but it'd be great for his range.
dan friesen
He's not playing Steely Game.
jordan holmes
Michael McDonald has a varied career.
dan friesen
He's not playing Goobies.
jordan holmes
He did a track with Holy Ghost.
You could fucking pick up on all of it, man.
dan friesen
I mean, they sampled him for Regulators.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
So, look.
Alex needs backup.
And up to this point, in 2009, what we've seen is a very anti-cop mentality on his part.
jordan holmes
Because cops are a representation of the government overreaching its powers.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But on this episode here, on January 29th, 2009, he realizes, I might need to reach out to these cops.
I might need to get them on my side.
And I don't think this is successful.
But I think that people who manipulate him probably heard this sort of rhetoric coming out of him and used it to be like, there are a lot of cops who love you, and maybe twisted him a little bit.
Because this is gross.
alex jones
I'm going to tell you something, police.
They're going to take your pension funds.
You're not going to get them.
The new order's going to rape you, too.
So remember, 10, 20 years down the road, when you're living in a hell unimaginable...
If you didn't stand up and help us stop this, we need you.
We want to be your brothers and sisters.
We want to love you and honor you.
We want you to join the light.
We want you in this one life you've got to do the right thing.
To stand with the heroes of liberty and freedom, the sons of liberty, the daughters of liberty, the sons and daughters of the republic.
Don't choose the dark side.
I know that there is still humanity and goodness in you.
You know you've been conditioned.
You know you've been twisted through peer pressure.
You know you've been lied to.
And you know we've told you the truth.
So I ask you now with an open hand, join the republic in its darkest hour.
Join the people.
Join God.
Join creativity and honor and goodness and decency.
Join truth.
Join everything that is honorable.
dan friesen
He does this for another two minutes.
That's going to be a while.
This goes on.
alex jones
On and on.
dan friesen
It just goes like, some people love power, and maybe they are not ready to get on board.
But some of you have good hearts.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
And your good hearts are unlike snakes.
And sometimes I go out behind my house and I have to kill a snake.
And that sucks.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
But snakes want to bite my family.
jordan holmes
This is a tortured metaphor.
dan friesen
It goes on forever.
It goes on for fucking ever.
I wanted to play it all, but I'm like...
As I was cutting the clips, I'm like, this is a six-minute clip of him rambling, trying to be like, please, cops, cops.
jordan holmes
And as we know, because we live in the present, cops respond to that by saying, nah, how about you come over to our side?
And Alex was like, I love killing black people too, so yeah, go, I'm on your team, alright.
dan friesen
I think if we want to really parse, like...
Things that are happening, we can't not recognize that, like, as this is all happening, the initial Tea Party first salvo has already happened.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And things are moving.
And so I think within the next couple episodes, this is my big prediction, we're going to see a lot of these narratives that we have seen that surprise us.
Support for Iran, the net neutrality, the fuck you cops kind of stuff go by the wayside.
We're going to see it...
jordan holmes
As we get more into white nationalism.
dan friesen
We're going to see that stuff sort of shift into a much more familiar Alex Jones to us.
And I think that one of the things that we have to take into consideration, and I think this clip gives us a little bit of a glimpse into, is that, like...
unidentified
The...
dan friesen
That HR645 is nothing.
That's nothing.
jordan holmes
It's literally nothing.
dan friesen
And it has been nothing.
So the idea that he made a mountain out of that molehill, to me, means either he's just desperate for anything he can latch onto, which is in his character.
jordan holmes
That tracks.
dan friesen
That's in his character.
Or he needs a big pivot.
And he needs an excuse to make a big pivot.
And I suspect that this is what he uses to launch a big pivot.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think that we're going to see that HR 645, even as time goes on in the next couple episodes that we do, will be when it's dying in committee.
Right.
It will be what he uses in order to change track a little bit from this.
Support of Palestinians, support of net neutrality, support of Iran into just being straight in line with what you would expect of Tea Party shit.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I think.
I'm not entirely sure, but that's my operating thesis right now.
I'm ready to be proved wrong.
I guess it's more of a hypothesis than a thesis.
jordan holmes
It is a hypothesis.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And we'll see.
I'm ready to be wrong.
If I am wrong, I'll be thrilled.
Because that would be even weirder.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, generally speaking, we have always been...
Like, there are always two tracks that we get confirmed on.
Like, eventually, if you just say white nationalism, Alex is going to veer towards that.
If you say guns, Alex is going to veer towards that.
But everything else...
That's on, like, the margins.
We always wind up getting it wrong, and he goes in such a strange, stupid direction that there's no way to predict it.
dan friesen
I don't think he's as outright white nationalist in 2009.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
But if you were to predict what's going to happen in 2009 and 2010, and you said he would get more white nationalist, I would give you one-to-one odds.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
But I agree with you 100% in terms of guns.
With white nationalist stuff, I'm a little bit murkier.
Just because I have listened to...
For every hour of this podcast we do, there's like 20 hours of shit I've listened to.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so I get a sense from listening to him that he is a very latent racist.
Even back then.
He's not a cool dude in any sense.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But he doesn't have the same mentality that he does now, or even in 2015, 2014, some of the episodes that we've listened to in the past.
There is an abrupt change that happens on some level.
I don't know what it is.
I hope it's soon, because that would be much more interesting.
Then, like, we do three years.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Oh, here it is.
jordan holmes
Oh, hey!
Whoa!
White nationalism!
Hello!
dan friesen
Accidentally happened sometime in 2011.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Weird.
So, in this next clip, I know I told you about those old people with their little robotic arms grabbing guns.
jordan holmes
I believe I was the one who brought that up.
dan friesen
But I piggybacked it.
All right.
There's gun grabbers afoot.
jordan holmes
All right, all right, all right.
dan friesen
Gun grabbers.
jordan holmes
Gun grabbers.
Left and right, gun grabbers.
dan friesen
Jordan, I gotta show you this map that I have right here, right?
Right over here?
jordan holmes
That's your high school, well, that's David's high school transcript.
dan friesen
Right over here?
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There there be gun grabbers.
jordan holmes
Alright, alright, I see that.
dan friesen
And hippogriffs.
jordan holmes
Hippogriffs?
dan friesen
Hippogriffs and gun grabbers.
jordan holmes
What else you got?
dan friesen
So, anyway, Alex is, he claims that he has tons of bills that are being pushed in order to take people's guns, and this is the coverage that he gives for it, which is soft.
alex jones
Where is it?
This is out of the article on H.R. 2666, which has now been reintroduced as H.R. 45. 2666?
This is out of the New American.
You can go to the subsection.
The bill requires a Blair Holt license involving a detailed application including photo, thumbprint, written test, release of mental health records.
They make you waive that.
They're not allowed now to do that, but see, now they're making you bring the private records and put it in there for your entire life.
Firearms owners would also be required to report all gun transfers, even those to other family members, to the Attorney General's database.
It would also be illegal for a licensed gun owner to fail to record a gun loss or theft within 72 hours.
And it goes on and on and on.
This was introduced by Rahm Emanuel in the last legislative session.
It's now been reintroduced into the new title, HR 45. This is the absolute end of the Second Amendment, this bill alone, and I've got ten of them here in front of me now.
dan friesen
He never mentions any of the other nine, but also, we now know this didn't happen.
Yeah.
Also, we know that because of how amendments work, it would be unconstitutional.
Well, no.
jordan holmes
Almost immediately.
dan friesen
No, because if it became a bill...
jordan holmes
If it tried to invalidate...
dan friesen
No, it would have to...
Go through becoming an amendment.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It would have to go through the elaborate process of undoing an amendment.
jordan holmes
And three-fourths of the state legislatures.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Why do we still have those?
dan friesen
Alex pretends that, like, hey, if you get us on a technicality with a bill, this amendment's done.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it's so stupid.
He has no understanding of civics.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Now, H.R. 45 from 2009.
I'm going to read to you here from factcheck.org.
If enacted, it would require a federal license to own any handgun or any semi-automatic firearm that can accept any detachable ammunition features.
Yeah.
So, also, real quick.
Bobby Rush introduced this same legislation on June 2007 as H.R. 2666.
It wasn't Rahm Emanuel.
It was Bobby Rush.
When Congress adjourned last year, the bill died quietly in the House Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.
The same subcommittee where H.R. 45 now resides.
jordan holmes
The people who need gun control die loudly, and gun control bills die quietly.
dan friesen
Right, but I mean, and guess what happened to H.R. 405?
It died in subcommittee.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
All these things that he fucking screams about and yells about.
jordan holmes
It's just random-ass politicians writing a bill to get some sort of press.
dan friesen
No, or not even that.
jordan holmes
Or to just make a statement amongst the, like, look at what I'm doing.
Like, that whole thing.
dan friesen
Or trying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like, I don't know Bobby Rush, I don't know his career, but there's a...
Decent possibility that he was like, someone's gotta do it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
And just put the bill out, and if it fails, it fails, but I did what I could.
Right.
I don't know if that's what...
jordan holmes
I'm gonna get a...
When I leave Congress, I'm gonna at least be able to say, I fucking gave it a go.
dan friesen
Yeah, I tried.
jordan holmes
I put a lot of calls in, I tried to talk to people, and they were fucking dicks because America's garbage.
dan friesen
Now, like I said, I don't know if that's the case.
Who knows?
There could be, like you say, jaded, like, let's just do this.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Kind of things going on.
Who fucking knows?
I know that what Alex is saying is a lie.
jordan holmes
Well, like any number- It's just like any number of congressmen who put in, like, every year, they're like- And now I'm re-upping this bill and throwing this back out there.
It could just be one of those.
dan friesen
It happens all the time.
It wasn't the case with him because that was...
I don't know if he was in Congress before 2007, so it might have been his first rodeo.
But yeah, that does happen a lot.
That happens a bunch.
And the idea that Alex is presenting this as like, this is a scary thing.
It's not new.
He did it two years ago.
It's the exact same.
It's the same thing.
It failed then.
You know it's going to happen.
jordan holmes
But now there's a black president, so it could happen.
dan friesen
If he said that, I'd respect it more.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because then at least it's like an explanation for why things are different.
Because in his worldview, like, A, the globalists controlled Barack Obama and George W. Bush, so he doesn't see a difference between them necessarily.
Only in terms of the black face being able to steal Africa's gold.
jordan holmes
There you go.
There it is.
dan friesen
Jordan, I know I told you earlier that we listened to that entire Highwaymen song for a reason.
And that reason comes now.
alex jones
Not an important point, but the guy's just informing me that the audio that goes out versus my voice is a 200 millisecond delay so that I shouldn't sing along with music.
Because when I'm hearing it, it's actually delayed.
It doesn't sound right.
I never said it sounded right.
I'm not a singer.
Big laugh.
I focus on the pain.
unidentified
I focus on the pain.
alex jones
The only thing.
The only thing.
But the waist that big, I've been saying way before.
dan friesen
So, he tries to sing along with the rest of Hurt?
unidentified
Does he?
jordan holmes
He doesn't realize how long 200 milliseconds is, right?
unidentified
No, not at all.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Because he's waiting like 45 seconds.
dan friesen
He tries to sing along with it, and he never hits the right mark at all.
But it just goes on and on, and then at the end he's like, we should all be heard.
Oh, great.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Alex, you know that was a Nine Inch Nails song first, right?
dan friesen
I mean, maybe he knows.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
No, no, no.
Don't get me wrong.
Johnny Cash's cover?
Spectacular.
Really emotional.
Coming from Johnny Cash late in his career like he was, intense.
dan friesen
Amazing.
jordan holmes
It's an intense song.
dan friesen
That is the definitive version of the song.
I don't think that Reznor's version is better than Johnny Cash's.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I agree with you.
This is the first time we've ever agreed on music, I think.
dan friesen
But that happens sometimes.
Sometimes covers are much more resonant than the original version.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Like all along the watchtower.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That's one of the classic examples of it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There's plenty of...
Or Bruce Springsteen.
jordan holmes
The acoustic Nirvana cover of the Me Puppets.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one was a big deal.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
So the rest of the episode, we have three more clips.
And the rest of them are, like, what I would describe as, like, flickers of Alex Jones' salesmanship from the present starting to manifest in the past.
And it's really interesting because it's...
Alex likes to sell survival seeds, seed vaults, and what have you.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I think this, what we're seeing, is a survival seed.
jordan holmes
He's a big fan of perennials.
dan friesen
This is a seed.
jordan holmes
Because they come up every year without you having to...
dan friesen
Listen to this fucking clip and tell me that this is not a seed of what will grow into the plant of Infowars sales in the late 2010s.
jordan holmes
Nice metaphor.
alex jones
The letter E, foodsdirect.com, efoodsdirect.com.
dan friesen
He's just gotten out of, like, a...
jordan holmes
The letter E. E-Foods Direct.
E-Foods.com.
dan friesen
That's his sponsor.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, like, he's gotten out of, like, a two-minute bit about how great they are.
Of course.
Just like, hey, get their three-day survival pack.
unidentified
So good.
alex jones
E-Foods.
800-409-5633.
800-409-5633.
I mean, people are insane if they don't get guns, gold, silver, seeds, a piece of rural property to run to.
And then you just hope the cops don't come to gun confiscate.
I mean, it's going to break down into this.
They're going to give us no quarter.
They are phony warriors.
They want to feed on the public.
They've been trained to hate us, and they've been brainwashed to follow any order they're given to taser children.
And I'm not saying all the police, but the commanders, I mean, they're confiscating guns.
Blagojevich ordered the National Guard to confiscate guns all over Illinois.
dan friesen
Blagojevich.
alex jones
They have a speech about it.
It happened in New Orleans.
unidentified
Blagojevich.
alex jones
They're giving us no quarter, ladies and gentlemen.
They follow orders.
They've been asking Marines and Army for decades would they fire on Americans.
All those that said yes got promoted.
Those that said no, 70 plus percent got sent overseas.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And got a special vaccine injection.
jordan holmes
Sounds right.
alex jones
800-409-5633, eFoodsDirect.com.
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
dan friesen
What the fuck was that?
What the fuck was that?
jordan holmes
All right, all right.
Yes, of course they are telling us that they're not going to give us any quarter.
If you are willing to fire on Americans, you get a promotion.
If you're not, you're going overseas.
They're putting you on the front to die because you're not willing to fire on Americans.
Now, by the way, 800-409?
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
That's spectacular.
dan friesen
There is no need to bookend that rant with another plug for your sponsor unless you're doing it in order to make people scared.
And be like, let's get to the sponsor.
That mentality is starting to...
I haven't...
This is a month into what I've been listening to in 2009.
We're at January 29th.
I've listened to a full month of it.
And I've not really seen that mentality.
And I'm not saying it didn't exist before.
He may only employ it on special occasions back in 2009 or something like that.
That's entirely possible.
But it's fucked up to see it because it's clumsy back then.
That's clumsy.
jordan holmes
You know what's interesting to me?
dan friesen
He's much better now.
jordan holmes
Has anybody ever considered calling their bluff?
dan friesen
On what?
jordan holmes
On the gun thing.
Oh, no.
Has anybody ever considered not giving them quarter?
I think we should not give them quarter.
I think they have actually been telling us this whole time that the only way for us to get rid of guns is to call their bluff on this dumb bullshit and just do what they say, and then they'll find out that they're all giant pussies.
dan friesen
Well, I think, I don't know.
So, in this next clip, Alex does what he does best.
alex jones
Gold has now been up above $900 for the last three days.
It's gone up, what, $5 today.
It was $810 an ounce two weeks ago.
Ted Anderson is about to run out of gold at the 830 level.
He bought gold at 830.
He can pass on those savings to you.
He's run out of most of his silver.
Everybody else, I mean, literally 90-something percent of the gold shops and even big dealers are out.
Or they're huge premiums.
Not with Ted Anderson.
dan friesen
Literally, Alex is saying that Ted is selling gold for what he bought it for.
And I'm like, that's not a business.
I don't know where the margin is there.
If you're just selling it for what you bought it for, and you're telling people like, oh, it's amazing, it's worth much more now, but I can sell it to you for this because I bought it for that, you don't make anything.
jordan holmes
It's a promotional cost.
You bring out the promotion.
It's a buy one, get one deal.
Look, I will give you one of these gold for $830, whatever that is.
dan friesen
One of these Dutch sovereigns.
jordan holmes
You get it for 830, but then the next time, oh man, you're going to have to get it for 8...
Whatever.
What is the price?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
For good?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Was it a bad price?
But also, it doesn't fucking matter because I've researched enough of their customer reviews to know that all of the prices that they cite have...
Huge markups on them.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
Huge convenience fees.
jordan holmes
Well, it's about convenience.
You couldn't buy it yourself.
They're a middleman.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we've had a lot of fun here.
We've heard Alex Jones sing along with the entire Highway Met song.
We've heard him being told, stop singing, there's a delay.
jordan holmes
Stop singing, there's a delay.
dan friesen
We've heard him freak out an entire show about a bill that didn't make it past committee.
unidentified
It's a bill that died in committee.
dan friesen
This, to me, is one of the funniest things.
He's screaming about the New World Order.
But watch this fucking pivot.
This pivot.
It's not like our normal ad pivots where it's like, hey, everything's fucking stupid.
Briefly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not like that.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
But boy, is it the proto version of it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Listen to this shit.
alex jones
The end, the total end, not incremental, the total end by high treason.
Tim, we've only got a minute and a half left.
Give them today's gold offer.
ted anderson
Well, I'm still offering the stuff from 830.
jordan holmes
I've got that around still.
ted anderson
The Franks, I have a 214.
The British Sovereigns are a 263.
unidentified
I'll give you an idea, right?
That gives you whiplash.
dan friesen
It's high treason!
We've got a minute left.
Give them the gold sales.
What the fuck?
What's your deal?
jordan holmes
This is the total end!
What is the gold?
And I like that...
alex jones
Ted, we got a hard break!
dan friesen
We got a hard break!
jordan holmes
I like that Ted catches it and is like, we gotta run through this.
Let's go.
Let's go.
It's 8.30 on the gold francs.
It's 8.30...
It's 2.40 on the Dutch...
dan friesen
You act like Ted isn't the owner of the radio network.
He knows when the fucking breaks are.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
He gets it.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Speed it up.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
It's so crazy because like...
The reality of this is we go back to 2009 and we see this disgusting sales shit going on.
We see the scam happening and all this.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
It makes you wonder when Cash for Gold started and if the guy who started it...
Works for Ted Anderson.
dan friesen
Well, from what I understand, Midas Resources and a lot of other businesses like it.
What they would do is they would sell you gold, but you didn't get the gold.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Unless you wanted to take it.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
Unless you wanted to take it.
jordan holmes
Hold on, what?
dan friesen
Unless you wanted to take it out of their vaults, you would pay them, and they would store the gold, and you would have it.
Wait, what?
From what I understand.
From what I understand...
jordan holmes
Hold on, wait, what?
dan friesen
There's a lot of businesses that worked like this.
There were a ton of businesses.
Most of them were scams.
But a lot of...
unidentified
Oh?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, sir?
dan friesen
There's a lot of precious metals businesses that had, like, we have this all in vault, we'll send you pictures of it.
jordan holmes
We'll send you pictures of your gold?
dan friesen
And if you call...
jordan holmes
That's extortion!
dan friesen
But also, if you want to, like, withdraw, we will send you your bullion.
We'll send you your coins.
jordan holmes
Well, then, yeah.
Send me my gold.
dan friesen
I bought gold.
But a lot of people don't do that.
A lot of people don't.
jordan holmes
Why would you not do that?
dan friesen
Right, but to some extent, it's kind of like the way that, like, banks, you know, like, they only have to have 10% of deposits on hand.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
I don't think that's true at all.
I was just trying to be cool.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I like it.
It's normal.
I like it when you break down.
95% of the time, you have a cogent, coherent argument.
And every now and again, you'll just drop in like a, I think I just made that up.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
dan friesen
This episode has not been great for me in terms of making great points.
unidentified
I think I've been on the wrong side of things a couple times.
dan friesen
You're not used to that.
jordan holmes
Me neither.
I've been right pretty much this whole episode.
I've nailed it.
Especially when I said we should kill everybody who owns guns.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
I think that was the one.
dan friesen
Anyway, this has been a lot of fun.
I love the 28th so much in terms of Alex spending two hours building up.
The reveal, the prestige, that it's an article by Paul Joseph Watson.
jordan holmes
Oh, by the way, in post, do you want to go back and put in us saying we're going to hold 20 seconds of silence before the 20 seconds of silence?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No, you don't want to add that?
dan friesen
It's way too complicated.
I have no idea how to do this.
But I would like to give out our website, but before that, I'd like to give 20 seconds of silence.
Moment of silence for the internet.
jordan holmes
Yes, yep.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Knowledgefight.com, the place where you can go for the best dismounts when it comes to podcasts.
dan friesen
If possible.
We are also on Twitter, which I don't like that much.
jordan holmes
We're at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
That's correct.
We are on Facebook.
jordan holmes
That's where we are.
You can also go to iTunes.
You can download.
You can leave a review.
You can tell your family.
You can tell your friends.
If you are at a stoplight and you throw your phone at somebody else, Wilstead is playing Knowledge Fight and it connects to their Bluetooth and then begins playing our podcast.
That's a great thing.
dan friesen
If you would like to also like us on Facebook, good on you.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's probably great.
dan friesen
But better...
Join our Facebook group.
Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
Because I don't post all that much in the Facebook page.
jordan holmes
You reply to everything, though.
dan friesen
I try to, but it's all about the group, really.
That's where everything happens.
Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant is really where the action happens.
Here's what I'm going to say.
jordan holmes
Here is what you're going to say.
dan friesen
I'm going to say...
I mean, look, this has been a lot of Alex.
There's been not many side characters along the way.
jordan holmes
That's true.
We had a great caller, though.
We had a caller who was fucking on it.
dan friesen
Yeah, that guy gets the non-go-fuck-yourself award of the night.
jordan holmes
Yeah, for sure.
dan friesen
But I will say that it's very clear to me who should fuck themselves, and that's that Kevin Annette guy who has gotten cease and desist letters from the First Nations in Canada and still tries to make money off it.
Kevin Annette, go fuck yourself.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Alex, I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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