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March 5, 2018 - Knowledge Fight
02:29:53
#133: Operation Paul Revere

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened during Alex Jones' 8 PM shift during his recent "Help Me I'm Being Sued" Marathon. It's a classic esoteric performance by a drunk Alex, covering such diverse topics as "how Alex is a victim because of the lawsuits against him" and "how Alex is a victim because the listeners of his show don't give him enough money." Definitely high end political talk.

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alex jones
27:55
d
dan friesen
01:15:36
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jordan holmes
34:23
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donald j trump
00:29
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Alex, I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
That is what we do.
I like the gravelly voice there.
dan friesen
It's the sign of things to come.
alex jones
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
Dan, is there another reason to listen to us besides your wonderful gravelly voice?
Besides those tones?
dan friesen
I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I am not a serial killer, and you are, apparently.
dan friesen
No, not a serial killer.
So, Jordan, today we've got a...
jordan holmes
It puts the lotion in the basket.
dan friesen
Or else it gets the hose.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I've got a couple of quick things to do really quick.
We've got a fucking wild episode to go over today.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, it has something to do with InfoWars' recent 34-hour marathon.
jordan holmes
Okay, who would have guessed?
dan friesen
I may have watched way too much of.
jordan holmes
Any.
Any is too much.
Any is too much.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's probably true.
That's probably true.
But before we get into anything, I'd like to give a shout-out to a couple new donors.
unidentified
Ooh!
dan friesen
So first, I'd like to say thank you to Mary.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you for joining up with the show.
jordan holmes
Hello, Mary!
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
We appreciate it so much.
Also, I'd like to give a shout-out to another new policy wonk.
What's going on out there, Adam?
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Adam.
dan friesen
If you'd like to become a policy...
jordan holmes
Two solid biblical names.
That's what we like on Knowledge Fight.
We love the Bible here.
If you've listened to any of our shows...
dan friesen
It's Mary spelled M-A-R-I, though.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
It's a little hip Bible.
jordan holmes
So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I gotcha.
dan friesen
We'd like to thank you guys.
If you'd like to become a policy wonk yourself...
jordan holmes
Hip Bible?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Cool kid Bible.
dan friesen
Nouveau Bible.
I gotcha.
If you want to become a policy wonk, you can go to our website, knowledgefight.com.
Click the support the show button.
And join up.
You become a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
That was always my favorite version, is the Nouveau International version of the Bible, I believe.
dan friesen
The Urban Dictionary version of the Bible?
jordan holmes
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we're going to be talking about Alex Jones' incredibly desperate...
jordan holmes
The King LeBron James Bible, I believe.
dan friesen
That's a perfect way to put it.
Yep.
Alex Jones did a very depressing and ultimately very desperate 34-hour marathon.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
He had a great run in the news.
From what I heard, he had the best weekend.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
There's so much to talk about, so much to go over, so much sadness.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I started watching at 11 when the Alex Jones show started, because I'm not watching David Knight.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
The kickoff of the marathon.
Yeah.
The anchor man, David Knight.
unidentified
It's time for us to do a 34-hour marathon in order to get more money.
dan friesen
We need money.
Please give us some money.
We talked about recording on Thursday, and so I was in preparation mode for that, and it turned out you were busy.
And so instead I was like, I'm going to see how much of this marathon I can watch.
I like endurance challenges.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Who doesn't?
dan friesen
So I started at 11 with Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Who doesn't like a little 30 Days of McDonald's going on there, huh?
Right.
dan friesen
So Alex Jones is on, and he's getting weird right out of the gate.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It's mostly him doing a lot of ads, which is kind of normal.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And then being very defensive about the people who are suing him for creating an abusive workplace.
There's a lot of that.
jordan holmes
And in so doing, I have no doubt...
Created an abusive workplace.
Probably.
unidentified
I can't believe these people think that you guys don't take any abuse at this fucking workplace, do you?
dan friesen
None of you!
jordan holmes
You piece of shit!
You've never been abused at this goddamn workplace, have you?
dan friesen
You're taking some artistic license, but you're not far off.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
There's just a lot of, I've never hugged, actually, back for that sort of thing.
It's like, alright, man.
jordan holmes
I've never hugged anyone!
Look into my eyes!
dan friesen
Then he was getting really weird and going on and on about how, like, everyone thinks I'm anti-Semitic, but my ex-wife's mom is Jewish, and that means that she's Jewish, and that means my kid...
unidentified
Well, I mean, technically speaking, he kind of does have a point.
dan friesen
No, no, no, but you're missing the big piece of this.
jordan holmes
Which is why I hate my kids.
dan friesen
For years, these anti-Semitic critics of his have been accusing...
Kelly, his ex-wife, of being Jewish.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that he's secretly working for Israel through her or something like that.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And he's always denied that she's Jewish.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's denied that she's Jewish?
dan friesen
Totally.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Because I don't think she's a practicing member of the Jewish community.
I think she's converted to Christianity.
I'm not entirely sure, and it's not my business.
I don't really care.
But he's denied it vehemently.
And now, because it serves his purposes, he's like...
My ex-wife is Jewish.
I can't hate him.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
He's getting attacked on both sides, so now he has no idea where to go.
dan friesen
So he's rambling around about this, and he's like, my new wife, she comes from a great pedigree.
She's German.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
No, no, no, no.
Why did he say pedigree?
I don't like pedigree.
It's weird.
I don't like any...
No, the word pedigree should be dog food.
dan friesen
This next quote is even worse, and this is a direct quote.
She has a noble nose, but she's not Jewish.
jordan holmes
Fat.
That is a very anti-Semitic thing to say.
dan friesen
It's at least weird.
jordan holmes
It's very weird.
dan friesen
In a very anti-Semitic way.
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Listen, she has a patrician nose, alright?
She is from the Acropolis, not the Acropolis where the Jews...
Alright.
dan friesen
So I'm watching it, and I'm like, alright, this show is going weird.
And then Alex brings in his first guest, and it's that Simon Roche, the Swithlander from South Africa.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
And I'm like, we are starting hot.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're right out the gate with...
dan friesen
We're going white genocide.
jordan holmes
Who said anything about racism?
That's not me.
That's not Alex Jones.
Anyways.
For what's happening to the whites, let's go on down to South Africa.
dan friesen
And at one point, Alex is like, he's like, why don't you guys just leave?
Like, why don't you just go and let the blacks kill each other?
It's essentially the question that he asks him.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Which is a question that he asked the last time he was on the show.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And Simon Roche starts screaming at him.
He gets really mad, and he's like, we will not back down in the face of barbarism!
I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ.
Oh, no.
Oh, what is going on here?
So he proceeds to have a couple more just white dude guests.
I don't even remember who they are.
Anthony Cumia.
Oh, the guy who runs Gab, the fake Twitter where all the white supremacists go and they get kicked off Twitter.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Did not know that was a thing.
dan friesen
He's on...
jordan holmes
Really unhappy, I do.
dan friesen
And Anthony Cumia comes in, and that's pretty much Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Then we get to...
unidentified
White.
Whiteness.
dan friesen
We get to the war room.
jordan holmes
A giant...
It might as well have been a giant pile of cocaine.
It was so white.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We get to the war room with Owen Schroyer, and he brings a tiny bit of diversity.
Into the proceedings.
jordan holmes
He allows a woman somewhere in the premises?
dan friesen
Not a woman.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Well, good.
alex jones
Thank God.
dan friesen
He has an Indian guy on who's running for office.
He's trying to take Elizabeth Warren's seat.
And it still is good luck.
It's pretty uncomfortable because they keep saying only a real Indian can beat a fake Indian.
jordan holmes
That's a very, very...
Bad slogan.
That's not a winning slogan.
dan friesen
It's a winning slogan for some people.
It'll really appeal to some part of the base, but the rest are going to be like, hold on.
So that interview is wild.
And I actually think, beyond the racism, that guy was kind of making a couple good points.
Problems being bigger than just looking at one problem.
He was talking a lot about systematic stuff and how when you look at poverty, you've got to look at a bigger picture.
jordan holmes
He's getting into your Club of Rome concepts.
dan friesen
Somewhat, but what he was talking about is he worked in systems and stuff like that, so he was applying his expertise to real-world issues.
Beyond the real Indian beats fake Indian, I'm not into that.
jordan holmes
It's a bad slogan.
dan friesen
The stuff he was saying, I was like, alright.
I'm just kind of bored.
You're fine.
I know you're on InfoWars because of that slogan.
jordan holmes
Yeah, pretty much exactly.
dan friesen
You nailed it.
I'm like, alright, whatever.
So I'm just bored.
And then Roger Stone pops in.
He's just wearing an Oxford shirt and a tie.
No silly hat.
Nothing.
jordan holmes
Living his best life.
unidentified
But nothing.
dan friesen
He's not wearing anything fun.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's not celebrating?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
He's not at Carnival this week?
dan friesen
No.
And so he brings in a guest named Jacob Engels, who is a journalist of sorts, who was on CNN in a roundtable gun debate after the Florida shooting.
Great.
unidentified
And he was pro-guns, of course.
dan friesen
Naturally.
unidentified
I didn't think that his appearance was anything.
dan friesen
too awful either outside of like, I just disagree with stuff he's saying.
But I looked into it, and he writes for a publication, or I've come to find out now that he owns this publication.
Okay.
unidentified
And their slogan on Facebook...
jordan holmes
It takes a real Indian to write the news.
No, that's not that one?
dan friesen
Their slogan includes, uh, no puff pieces.
I looked into it, and like, the last article that they'd posted was called Roger Stone's Struggle for America.
And I read through it, and I'm like, this is a little puff piece-y.
jordan holmes
That sounds puff piece-y.
dan friesen
So I tweet about how that's ironic, and as soon as he gets off air, he tweets at me.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
He tweets at me.
jordan holmes
Alright, so he's got a full schedule.
dan friesen
I started panicking.
I'm like, oh no!
The TV is talking back to me!
And so I decided not to engage, because I don't really have anything against, not against him, but I don't really have any skin in the game outside of, like, I kind of think that was a puff piece.
He feels like it wasn't.
What kind of, we could just agree to disagree preemptively.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So I leave it alone.
Go, you know, rest of it's super fucking boring.
And then afterwards, after the war room, we get three hours of a guy who I watched all of it.
And I don't know what his name is.
I just...
unidentified
Wait, is it just him by himself?
dan friesen
No, he has Jerome Corsi come in at some point, which made it even more boring.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's astonishing.
dan friesen
As I was live-tweeting it, I just kept referring to him as the boring intern.
Because he's a young guy, and he's just so dogshit boring.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I'm watching it, and I'm like, I...
Oh, God.
I need something.
A couple of his great quotes are like, racism doesn't exist anymore.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
We elected Obama.
We're home free.
dan friesen
He said there are like 15 people who hate Mexicans in the world.
jordan holmes
Ted, Chad, Davis.
Fucking hate Davis.
We got Simon Roche.
We got his brother, Diamond Roche.
unidentified
Papa Roche.
dan friesen
They're dead?
jordan holmes
Yeah, goddammit!
You got there first.
dan friesen
So, like, I was just sitting there, and I'm like, I am having trouble.
Like, not even staying awake, because it's still before 8pm.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I'm just like, I don't know.
I might have bit off more than I can chew with this fucking thing.
Then Alex Jones comes back.
jordan holmes
All right, you get a breath of fresh air.
You get your second wind.
dan friesen
9 p.m., Alex Jones comes back, and that's what we're going to be talking about here.
But just to give a little bit more context of what happens, after Alex Jones finishes, it's another fucking boring host, and I'm watching this, and so I've been drinking a little bit along the way to make it more tolerable.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And so afterwards, I just needed to tap out for a second, and I went and watched Slam Dunk videos with my roommate.
For a couple hours, just watch Dunks.
jordan holmes
All right, all right.
dan friesen
Watch a little bit of Fievel Goes West.
jordan holmes
Just watch some Fievel Goes West?
That's a great movie.
dan friesen
And Slam Dunk.
jordan holmes
It's a great movie?
dan friesen
Yeah.
A lot of metaphors in the movie.
Anyway, so then I come back.
jordan holmes
Do you mean in the Slam Dunk videos?
A lot of metaphors there?
dan friesen
A lot of undercurrent.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
So I'm watching that stuff, and then I come back, and it's another fucking boring intern who's just running another three-hour shift.
And I remember his name.
That one was Harrison Smith.
And I only remember him.
jordan holmes
The whitest possible name.
dan friesen
Well, he's also the guy who found those Antifa contracts on 4chan.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And freaked Alex out.
jordan holmes
He found Antifa contracts.
Yes, the contracts.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
The completely reasonable to sign contracts that any member of Antifa would know immediately to sign.
Yes, yes.
dan friesen
That hoax nonsense.
And so I'm like, all right, great.
I'm really bored.
I'm really bored.
I'm flagging.
And then it becomes too late for InfoWars to broadcast anymore, and so they go to the London office.
This is probably about, I think, 5 in the morning here.
They go to London because they're on Greenwich Mean Time, and so you've got Paul Joseph Watson and Tommy Robinson, who are going to be broadcasting from London while everyone else in Austin takes a nap, ostensibly.
And so Tommy Robinson is just telling apocryphal stories about Muslim violence.
And he has no citations for any of it.
He's just like, one time a Muslim set someone on fire!
And stuff like that.
jordan holmes
I like that as a style of broadcasting.
I much prefer that to real news.
Give me just one time this happened.
The old time Grandpa Tells Stories Hour.
dan friesen
It's that level of terrible.
I'm watching the viewer counts.
I was on the Infowars main live stream.
And at that point, there's like 300 people watching or something like that.
And I have to assume he knows those numbers.
And you could see it in his performance.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, he was just like...
And that was when I had had enough.
Because he gets done, and then Paul Joseph Watson comes on, and I'm like, I'm gonna have to sit through this snarky ass for however long he's on, and then get to David Knight, and then maybe get to another three hours of Alex?
jordan holmes
Is this worth it?
No.
dan friesen
And so I gave up at 6am when Paul Joseph Watson said these words.
I will be talking to Sargon of Asgard.
I'm like, nope, I'm out.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
I'm out.
jordan holmes
That's the only time I would have started listening!
dan friesen
No, he's one of these white nationalist assholes who...
jordan holmes
Sargon of Asgard.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think he's a video game streamer.
I don't know who the fuck he is.
He's a guy who has...
See, with these guys, I know what they say, and I know what they stand for, but I don't know what they do.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm not sure why his, like...
Maybe he just had a YouTube channel that people liked and that's the beginning of it.
I don't know.
I don't care about his history.
jordan holmes
See, now, when you say Sargon of Asgard, I want an interview with somebody who thinks he is the third cousin of Thor.
That's what I want.
I don't want a video game streamer.
dan friesen
I don't think it's Asgard.
It's like Asgard or something.
jordan holmes
Asgard?
Oh, well, that's way worse.
dan friesen
Look, who cares?
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I do.
dan friesen
I turned it off.
I went to bed.
And as I was laying in bed, I was very guilty about it.
And I'm like, maybe I should just get up.
jordan holmes
Guilt is the feeling that you should have been experiencing at that moment.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Maybe I could just take a half hour nap in the middle of Paul Joseph Watson's dumb ass and then come back.
And then I didn't wake up until like 11 the next day.
We're all good.
jordan holmes
And everything was fine, right?
The world didn't end.
dan friesen
No, no.
jordan holmes
Everything was okay.
dan friesen
The world was fine.
jordan holmes
It turns out you could have not listened to any of it.
dan friesen
Right.
And it turns out that the only thing that was worth anything...
Was that second swing shift from Alex Jones, which we will be listening to right now.
I want to give a shout-out to our friend, our boy, Far Out.
He was riding shotgun with me, and we were chatting over Facebook during this.
And for some portion of it, he started trolling the InfoWars chatroom.
jordan holmes
Love it.
dan friesen
And we'll talk about that a little bit.
jordan holmes
Give it up to you, Far Out.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
It was super fun.
We learned a lot.
I learned a great deal about...
The InfoWars listeners through his trolling.
But anyway, here's a clip of Alex from his late night shift.
alex jones
I'm exhausted because I feel so good.
Seriously.
unidentified
I mean, that sounds true.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
You might detect a little bit of booze on his breath.
jordan holmes
I'm exhausted because I feel so good.
dan friesen
He kept getting callers who were like, you can see how tired you are.
unidentified
Stuff like that.
That's booze.
He's drunk.
dan friesen
He is quite drunk, which you will experience over the course.
jordan holmes
Alex is experiencing some exhaustion right now.
He has to go to rehab for exhaustion.
dan friesen
It's heat stroke.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
No, totally.
dan friesen
We start off our adventure with Alex in this first clip.
He has just talked to Larry Pratt, who's a guy who runs an organization called the Gun Owners of America, which we would look at as a more extreme NRA.
jordan holmes
That's not good?
dan friesen
No, it's not.
jordan holmes
The gun owners of America?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We're not going to listen to any of that, because nothing really interesting happens, and Alex is keeping it together, because Larry Pratt is a respectable old man, and Alex is kind of on his best behavior, but once he leaves, it slips a little bit.
jordan holmes
Alex's daddy issues show up.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
So we find him right after the Larry Pratt interview, creating straw men versions of the accusations that he is being sued over, and we'll discuss that on the other end.
alex jones
If you read the EEOC complaints filed against me that are in thousands of newspapers today, it says I hugged a woman.
They call that sexual assault.
It's not even true.
They say I groomed men for gay sex because somebody saw bodybuilding photos in a video we were shooting on a computer to try to light bodybuilders for a supplement ad.
This is how crazy they are to try to shut us down, calling our president a rapist and a racist and a Nazi with no proof.
But that's why I'm telling you the listeners.
Now, there's the shoot.
That's supposedly the crime right there.
I'm asking you, the listeners, to understand that I'm not complaining at you.
I'm not asking for more from you.
I'm saying to you, you're the reason we're here.
You're the reason we've had success.
You're the reason we are defending all of your freedoms.
jordan holmes
So give us money.
alex jones
And if you want us to continue on, it is so critical that you financially support InfoWars today.
We're on the special 34-hour broadcast to point that out.
jordan holmes
To point it out.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's fun phrasing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I like that.
dan friesen
So that's going to give you the flavor of almost all of the night is just him saying something and then gotta get into sales.
If we were doing this episode as one of our live streams, our listeners would die because of the ad pivots.
If they have to drink every time there's an ad pivot, this would be deathly.
jordan holmes
Nobody said that he was grooming men for gay sex.
Why is he saying that he's grooming men for gay sex?
dan friesen
That is in Rob Jacobson's complaint.
jordan holmes
Wait, it's in Rob Jacobson's complaint is that Alex was grooming men for gay sex?
dan friesen
Let me scroll down here.
Because I have both of their legal complaints here in front of me.
jordan holmes
And I don't think anybody...
I actually do know that nobody said that he hugged Ashley Beckford.
dan friesen
No, they did.
jordan holmes
Wait, they hugged?
dan friesen
That's in her complaint.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
They didn't hug.
He grabbed her ass, right?
dan friesen
Under the pretenses of a hug.
I'm going to read her entire sexual harassment complaint.
Because I don't want there to be any bones about this.
I don't want it to be like Alex's fake version of accusations.
Now, with Rob Jacobson's complaint, what he said is, quote, In 2014, the CEO of the company allowed his friend Shane Steiner into my office to display my computer with images of gay pornography.
So Alex is saying that it's things that they were researching to light bodybuilders, and I don't know if that is right or if Rob Jacobson's claim that it was actually gay pornography is true.
So I'll leave that aside for a second.
In 2014, the CEO of the company, Alex Jones, allowed his friend Shane Steiner into my office.
To display on my computer images of gay pornography.
I believe this action was a continuation of the intimidation and sexual harassment and that he was grooming me for homosexual sex.
I made a formal complaint to the Human Resources Department.
So that complaint should be on their files unless they have since deleted them.
He also makes this claim because he says it's a continuation.
From the years 2008 to 2012, the CEO of the company called me beefcake, referring to male porn stars.
I felt this was intimidating and harassing and a form of sexual harassment, and he was grooming me for homosexual harassment.
So that claim is being made.
jordan holmes
Alright, well, there you go.
dan friesen
But it isn't just this idea that...
He may have...
It might have been a bodybuilder lighting things.
He's also saying that he kept calling him beefcake in an intimidating way.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And stuff like that.
Alex isn't addressing the actual issue at hand.
He's creating a fake version of it to respond to.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The same is true of Ashley Beckford's claim.
I'll just read this.
jordan holmes
I read hers, and hers sounded really reasonable.
They fit in line perfectly with what I know of Alex.
dan friesen
I'll cut through, because I don't want to read, like, four paragraphs or anything, but she was sent out when she had first just started.
To cover a Democratic watch party for the first presidential debate in Austin, Texas.
And that, of course, is going to be an antagonistic, hostile environment to be in.
Yeah.
Especially if you're not used to it.
My cameraman, Josh Owens, who had worked with InfoWars for years, compared to my less than three months tenure, consistently pressured me to engage with the Hillary Clinton supporters as a black Trump supporter.
I was subsequently subject to multiple people hurling insults and racial slurs at me, including Uncle Tom by one of the gay white male attendees.
Another Clinton supporter, a white lesbian woman, told me that she knew more about black issues than I did because she's married to a black woman who is also present.
So this was all captured on video, and I suggested that night that the footage should not be uploaded to YouTube channels because of the interactions weren't newsworthy and had no political value.
Rob Dew insisted...
jordan holmes
Wrong!
You are not on InfoWars yet, lady.
dan friesen
Rob Dew insisted on uploading it to exploit the racial attack on me for InfoWars to profit.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
Now the existence of these clips is still hurting my professional reputation as a journalist.
To that last point, you did go and work at InfoWars.
jordan holmes
You did do that to yourself.
dan friesen
They still behaved horribly towards you.
jordan holmes
No, agreed.
dan friesen
Even just in that section, I feel very bad for her.
You should not work at Infowars if you want credibility.
It's not going to work.
So she says, I went back to the Infowars office in tears, incredulous at how I was being racially attacked because of my support for a political candidate.
And Alex Jones, taking advantage of my fragility at that moment, forced me to share what had happened to me on air for YouTube and other social media that same night, feigning his own tears of empathy.
After he pulled me into his side...
Instead of removing his arm from my shoulder, he allowed his arm to slide down my back and he grabbed my butt with his right hand.
Simultaneously, he was commenting to those in the room, I felt embarrassed and nervous, but I knew that he had specifically touched my behind at that moment as a sly come-on that other people might not notice.
So she goes on.
jordan holmes
That is not a good way to react.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
To that situation.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Of all the things to hear, when Ashley is talking about that, and he's like, well, yeah, who wouldn't want to have a black wife?
Squeezy, squeezy.
Yeah, no, no, no, that's no good.
That's not the behavior of a human being.
dan friesen
No, she also says.
jordan holmes
Or perhaps more accurately, that's the behavior of way too many human beings.
dan friesen
Yeah.
She also says that most of the staff was drinking in the office, as is usual on late nights.
Alex Jones came to my desk on one occasion to find out, quote, what I like to do for fun outside of work, and it's my opinion that it was his intention to see if he could groom me for sexual exploitation because he also mentioned that I had a, quote, good body that looked like I worked out a lot.
I was concerned that these unwanted sexual advances would eventually result in the request for sexual favors in exchange for promotions.
In the office, it was rumored that he may have had inappropriate relationships with other female production staff employees.
In addition, Alex Jones himself has alluded to the fact that he loves to grab women's backsides in videos that he has made and uploaded to YouTube.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's fair.
So the issue that I come to about all this is like, I take these as allegations.
I believe her as much as I believe anybody who makes claims, and it certainly is way in line with Alex's public behavior and what we know about him.
jordan holmes
If I was going to bet, I would put, I think...
If I had $100, I would put $97 on She's Absolutely Right.
And $3 on She's Wrong.
But even then, that $3 is like, it's in...
I don't want that $3 back.
dan friesen
But you also put that $3 on there because the odds are so high that Alex is right that that will make all your money back.
jordan holmes
Oh, easily.
I'll make more money if the $3 is right, but that's not how the game works.
dan friesen
She has a lot of other allegations that some of them we'll get to in a minute, but the thing that I really want to make very clear is that I'm making a judgment in the court of public opinion that I I think her claims sound credible.
Based on my awareness of Alex Jones' behavior, things other people have claimed in the past, what his ex-wife says, and the fact that all of his responses are strawman versions of the accusation.
He's not actually dealing with the, I'm accused of grabbing her butt.
He's like, I touched her back.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
And that to me means you're defending yourself against the false charge.
jordan holmes
In order to keep from actually defending it.
If he had come out and been like, hey, I remember what night she's talking about.
It was a different situation.
I felt that this was what was going on, and she felt that this was what was going on.
That is a different story.
That's a conversation.
dan friesen
Somewhat, yes.
jordan holmes
If it's just like, hey, I never took her mom out to dinner.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
And you're like, wait, what?
That's random.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so like...
I don't know.
I believe that it's up to court to decide these things.
A complaint has been made, and hopefully the process goes as it should.
At this point, I believe it, but I also know that you're innocent until proven guilty of things.
Is doing a bad job of defending himself publicly.
jordan holmes
We'll see how...
As we've seen in the past.
This is very right in line with what he's done.
dan friesen
We'll see how this goes in the future.
jordan holmes
This has a...
I will fight this till the death!
I will never surrender!
I will never give up!
And I will have settled that lawsuit with Ashley for $1.8 million and a non-disclosure agreement.
dan friesen
And a public apology.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Also, I mean, what you really need to come back to, too, is like...
These claims were filed...
At the beginning of February, or like the second week of February.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex Jones knew these lawsuits were coming.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And that's why he's doing the marathon to begin with.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
That's the only reason he's doing this.
That's why he did one in April of last year.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Because Hamdi Ulukayo was suing him.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
And James Oliphantus.
He did one in November.
I'm not entirely sure why he did that one.
unidentified
I can't remember.
jordan holmes
Well, wasn't that the end of the fiscal year?
dan friesen
I could have.
No, that's September.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was the one he did in September.
dan friesen
That was 2015.
And that one was also...
Because of his divorce.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's right.
dan friesen
And because Ted Anderson had just lost his gold-selling license.
unidentified
Ah!
dan friesen
His bullion license.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So, anyway, that's why he's doing this.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Because he's getting sued by two former employees, and he probably knows there's a decent chance some other employees are going to come out of the woodwork now.
jordan holmes
We can only hope.
dan friesen
I don't know about hope, but I would assume that some people would be like, oh, yeah, this isn't covered in my NDA.
Or something like that.
jordan holmes
It turns out NDAs don't protect you from me telling you you did crimes.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Crimes are still not protected by NDAs.
dan friesen
With the same spirit that I'm approaching this, we'll see what happens.
We'll see what happens with that, too.
But I think Alex Jones is incredibly afraid of that, and that's why he's doing this, we need to fucking do a 34-hour marathon.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And let's move forward.
This next clip I kept in just because Alex Jones burps in the middle of the word Nigeria.
alex jones
Wherever free people are fighting, Christians fighting radical Islam in Kenya or in Nigeria, we're here.
Nigeria.
And you hear a lot of media hype, you hear a lot of stuff, but what has delivered Black InfoWars?
So I need everybody watching and listening.
unidentified
Papa John's?
alex jones
To realize when you go buy a book or a video or some supplements or water filtration, are you going to make a $10 donation or $100 donation?
That's how we built this.
This was not easy to build.
And I'm not complaining.
dan friesen
That also is a theme that's going to come up.
jordan holmes
He's not complaining.
We've heard two clips both times.
He said he's not complaining.
dan friesen
I am a victim.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
But I'm not complaining about it.
dan friesen
Buy my shit.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Also...
If you are going to reference good Christians, do not talk about the ones in Kenya and Nigeria.
They are the worst.
They are the worst.
Hey, you know those great Christians who are now admittedly raping lesbian women all over the place because they're too gay and God wants them to?
Those are the ones that I want to mention when I'm talking about people fighting for freedom.
dan friesen
Big shout out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, great.
Great, dude.
dan friesen
Awesome.
So the lead-up to this marathon is Alex Jones knows he's being sued.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But what he could never have expected is also the day before Donald Trump would come out and say, I want to take people's guns.
jordan holmes
That's fantastic.
dan friesen
So he's in a real troubled place.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So it doesn't affect his main broadcast that much.
jordan holmes
We're literally watching Macbeth.
Like, we're literally watching that.
This is exactly, line by line, was he visited by three witches before he started Infowars?
dan friesen
No, but he is going to talk about a vision of sorts later.
jordan holmes
Okay, of course!
He's got all the blood on his hands.
dan friesen
So, you know, Alex is struggling with this idea that Trump may be turning on them.
And at the same time, he knows he can't turn on him.
So in this evening shift that he does...
jordan holmes
He's licked too much boot.
dan friesen
Right, right.
But in the evening shift, he's got to find a way...
I think he spent most of the day trying to figure out, how am I going to spend this?
And even as he starts...
jordan holmes
And, like, as usual, he came up with some great ideas.
dan friesen
Well, but even as he starts, he doesn't know.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
I think he doesn't figure it out until maybe, like, I don't know.
Half an hour into this.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But here's a real fucked up thing that he said about Trump.
alex jones
I want to go ahead and air again Dianne Feinstein with Trump and a few of these other clips.
We've got four or five of them.
Let's just air them in a row with his anti-gun statements because just because he's better than Hillary, you have to understand we were told by our sources last week that he's being blackmailed by sex operatives in the White House.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
And we didn't put that out to hurt the president.
We put it out because we wanted you to know up front.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
And now we've got Hope Hicks leaving today.
And it seems like a cross between Melania Trump and Stormy Daniels.
jordan holmes
Yes, that makes perfect sense.
alex jones
She's a luscious, succulent, gorgeous female.
And she's in there.
And yes, the word is that's been going on.
And now you see Trump starting to go sideways.
I want to think this is part of the deal stuff.
I've got to be honest with you, because that's all that matters.
Trump's done an amazing job.
I was right to endorse him.
14 months in, 60-plus percent of us ended up dying.
The country coming back.
The job's coming back.
Globalism in trouble.
But I had sources off-air and on-air weeks ago saying it was about to be a big Hope Hicks deal.
They wouldn't even say Hope Hicks was involved in the sex operative operation.
I'm not saying she was.
Imagine the news I could have made doing that.
I just didn't touch it.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
He didn't touch it.
alex jones
So...
jordan holmes
He's not allowed to.
He's getting sued by Hope Hicks as well.
alex jones
Trump's a man.
And, you know, King David had his best friend killed so he could have his wife.
He repented later, and it was real and genuine, and God sent Savannah from his own heart.
And Trump's real.
That's why they fear him while they hate him.
jordan holmes
I don't understand why you think that's a good story.
alex jones
But he's a man.
He's got issues.
And I'm not saying he had sex with Hope Hicks.
unidentified
You are!
jordan holmes
It's pretty much exactly what he said.
alex jones
The liberals and all these people have said, but...
Liberal said it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm not saying you had sex with her, but I kind of just did.
jordan holmes
She looks like somebody he would have sex with.
dan friesen
But also, just that quote, like straight up, she's a luscious, succulent, beautiful woman.
jordan holmes
No, I just wanted to sue him.
I just wanted to add my name to Ashley Beckford's brief.
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Succulent.
jordan holmes
Succulent.
dan friesen
Oh, spoiler alert also.
I tweeted out that quote and Ashley Beckford favored it.
She faved it on Twitter.
So I had a lot of interaction with Infowars adjacent personalities throughout the marathon and I freaked out.
Completely freaked out.
Oh boy.
So anyway...
unidentified
This is...
jordan holmes
This is so pathetic.
Because how many months has he been telling us, no, he would never do any of that stuff.
No, all those women accusing him of acting like this, they're crazy.
They're paid operatives.
No, the Russian peace story.
That's all insane.
Everybody would make that up because everybody knows he's beyond reproach.
He's the most moral man I have ever met.
Sure.
We heard that he's fucking Hope Hicks and that's why she resigned and we can never trust him again because of it.
All that other Russian stuff?
Still crazy.
Yes, he's fucking Hope Hicks all the time.
Everybody knows this.
dan friesen
He's like King David.
jordan holmes
Everybody knows this, but that's fine because King David was God.
Or whatever.
dan friesen
Something along those lines.
It's very weird.
jordan holmes
It's fucking...
It's sad.
dan friesen
It doesn't track.
jordan holmes
It doesn't make any sense.
dan friesen
No, but he's drunk.
So at this point, you know, he's brought up King David and he's like, oh yeah, that's right, religion exists.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
Gotta talk about evangelicals.
jordan holmes
Gotta throw some of that in there.
dan friesen
Gotta talk about evangelicals for a little bit.
alex jones
I love the liberals like, oh look, suddenly evangelicals don't care.
Trump's had all these wives.
jordan holmes
We didn't say suddenly.
alex jones
Evangelicals just want somebody that will leave Christians alone and let them raise their children and he wasn't out to get them.
They're not hypocrites.
They're not idiots.
They read the Bible, and they've also been on the block, you idiots.
Most of your real Christians have already been down the road of evil, whether it's sex or drugs or whatever.
They get it.
They're not hypocrites.
They don't judge the president.
They judge the heart like God does.
jordan holmes
And everybody else.
alex jones
And Trump's got a good heart.
unidentified
No, he doesn't.
alex jones
But I'm never going to sit here and steer you wrong.
unidentified
Yes, you will.
alex jones
And I think your concerns are legitimate.
unidentified
No, you don't.
alex jones
And I think they're real.
But I'll give you this pledge.
Nobody's buying me off.
dan friesen
Yeah, right.
jordan holmes
You've already been bought off.
dan friesen
Probably many times over.
jordan holmes
If you say a ton of things that literally aren't true in a row, and then you say, but I'll tell you something that is true.
I'm gonna think it's also not true, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, odds are.
Odds are that's the situation.
jordan holmes
If it's all in a row, you can't just be like, hey, I never said this.
You did.
Hey, he never did that.
He did.
Hey, these guys are doing this.
They're not.
Hey, but I'll tell you this.
I'm definitely doing this.
dan friesen
I'm real.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's like, whoa, boy.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
dan friesen
You can't do that.
jordan holmes
You can't machine gun lies at me and then expect me to believe the last part?
dan friesen
To the evangelical thing that he's saying, I kind of do agree with him.
A lot of them have been around the block.
And one of the reasons is because the way addiction works is generally you have to replace one addiction with another.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That's what a lot of people do who aren't treated.
For their addictions.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so you end up having a lot of people who are drug addicts or sex addicts or gambling addicts who are born again and they find Jesus and then Jesus just becomes their addiction.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So a large part of the evangelical community absolutely has been around the block.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But that's not good.
That just...
And I'm not...
Again...
Painting with a broad brush.
I don't mean everybody, certainly.
But there is, from my experience, growing up in an evangelical church, there's a lot of people who are just mainlining Jesus.
jordan holmes
Pretty much.
dan friesen
And that's not a healthy way to look at religion.
jordan holmes
And if you're going to talk about them as not being hypocrites, maybe we can have a discussion there.
The other ones, though, to other ones who are all up in everybody else's business about acting moral all the time.
Those are the ones who are being hypocrites.
You know, the ones who are like, hey, gay people can't get married because marriage is sacred.
Those are the ones who look over at Trump's sham marriages, his mail-order brides, essentially, and they're like, yeah, no, no, that's totally fine.
That's good marriage, but all of those gay people, God hates you.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Those guys are hypocrites.
dan friesen
It's weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, in this next clip, Alex speculates that he's going to...
jordan holmes
And my issue is the word suddenly.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Pretty sure we've been saying this the whole time.
dan friesen
Most of my life.
So in this next clip, Alex speculates that he's not going to live long.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
But he's also not afraid of death.
alex jones
I'm 44, and I'm ready to stop doing this.
But I have to keep on because they're trying to push me out.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Also...
jordan holmes
That does not track at all.
dan friesen
Well, no, it's just his weird, uh, you say, I can't do it, I'm gonna do it, kind of thing.
But also, there's another, there's a leitmotif of this, uh, this episode, that is he keeps talking about wanting to quit.
Which, at this point, I understand.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is totally a quittable time for you!
dan friesen
Propagandists don't work outside of, like...
Fascist regimes, and people aren't really paying attention to them.
It's really worked out super well for him until people started paying attention.
He got hooked up with Trump, and then people were like, hold up, what the fuck?
And that's a problem.
He could fly under the radar making millions of dollars every year, but his profile is too high, and it's really becoming a problem.
He should quit.
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
No matter how hard, no matter how bad it gets, I'm going on to the end.
I can't give up on humanity because God's watching.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
alex jones
I'm not 70, almost 72 like the president.
Looks like he's about 60. I can feel the pressure of the devil.
unidentified
No, I think he looks exactly 72. I can feel it breathing down my neck.
alex jones
And I'll be honest with you, it makes me sometimes just want to have it all over with.
Not that I commit suicide, but just I'm not fearing death anymore because I can see beyond the River Jordan.
I know God's there, but I've got to get my soul in line.
To be with God.
And all you fools who don't believe in God, you've never tasted of the higher things.
unidentified
Somebody put that on notepaper and in his pocket and we'll find him dead tomorrow morning.
alex jones
I want you to experience what I've seen.
Mere glimpses of the mind of God.
Unspeakable understanding.
Unspeakable grace.
Unspeakable will.
Unspeakable beauty.
Unspeakable love.
Unspeakable power.
Unspeakable vengeance.
Unspeakable dread.
Unspeakable death.
jordan holmes
Give three more examples.
alex jones
That follows after.
So we're going to play a few of these clips, and I'm going to get Mike's turn of it, Sean.
I want to be more alert.
I got my time zones messed up.
We'll see.
dan friesen
So he just does it.
jordan holmes
Unspeakable.
Unspeakable love and unspeakable hate and unspeakable power and unspeakable.
And Bone Thunks and Harmony was there.
I don't know why they were there.
dan friesen
We're going to play some clips.
jordan holmes
Crossroads.
dan friesen
I'm going to call Mike Cernovich.
jordan holmes
Who's Mike Cernovich again?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's get him on here.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, Mike Cernovich doesn't show up.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
He's in the wrong time, though.
I don't know.
The true comedy of this is like, it's a 32-hour marathon.
This is at 8 p.m.
jordan holmes
Austin time.
unidentified
This isn't the middle of the night.
jordan holmes
This sounds like he's drunk in the middle.
unidentified
He's drunk.
jordan holmes
And it's like 2 a.m.
dan friesen
He is drunk.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
That I know.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I just mean this is a conversation of a man who's been on a bender.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's about closing time at the bar and he's like...
I don't know what I'm going to do with my life.
I don't know what's going on right now.
unidentified
Or...
jordan holmes
My wife has left me, and I'm...
dan friesen
Hour 24 of the marathon.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's been screaming the whole time, like a full day.
He's got a coffee and a cigarette in front of him, and he's just...
Unspeakable vistas of anger.
unidentified
Or whatever.
dan friesen
That is the headspace he's in.
But he just did his normal show for three hours, then left, and is back at 8 p.m.
unidentified
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
He's had an unspeakable few hours off.
unidentified
I think he talked to a lawyer and then got drunk.
dan friesen
I think that's what happened.
jordan holmes
Or I think he got drunk and talked to a lawyer.
dan friesen
Might have got drunk with a lawyer.
Mike Cernovich is a lawyer.
So, in this next clip...
jordan holmes
Everybody I drink with is lawyers.
dan friesen
I want to apologize to you before I play this next clip, because it includes the clips of Trump talking about gun control.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm not going to be stoked about that.
dan friesen
No, but the reason I want to keep it in is because it's crazy that Alex is actually playing those clips.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's nuts.
Normally, he would just ignore this or something like that.
He's playing these clips, including parts of it where Trump says, we're going to get this passed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I'm going to work with you on this.
And then you'll see...
jordan holmes
How many hours before the White House was like, oh, no, no, no, he didn't even say that stuff.
What are you guys talking about?
dan friesen
20 minutes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was not long.
dan friesen
So, but the other thing is, listen to these clips, and then listen to how Alex deals with it immediately after.
I think it's very telling.
alex jones
We're going to go ahead and go to Dianne Feinstein.
And then we're going to go to Trump.
I like taking the guns early, then due process.
Just a horrible statement.
I'm the biggest fan of the NRA.
Lawmakers are afraid of the NRA, like a double-sided meaning.
And we're going to play a few of those clips back-to-back.
Then we're going to come back and take some of your phone calls.
It is Thursday night.
It's 943 Central.
I'm Alex Jones.
This is the InfoWarm.
unidentified
So if you can add that to this bill, that would be great, Diane.
If you could add what you have also, and I think you can, into the bill.
So are you ready.
alex jones
Can you do that?
jordan holmes
Joe, can you do that?
Can you add some of the things?
You're not going to agree with me.
unidentified
Yep, you help.
Well, no, I'll help, but can you add Amy and what Diane have?
Can we add them in?
donald j trump
And I know you can add what Joe has.
unidentified
I have another domestic bond school that's very narrow, and it's about dating partners, and a number of states have just enacted it.
We're going to get it passed.
dan friesen
We're going to get it passed.
donald j trump
You can add domestic violence, paragraphs, pages into this bill.
unidentified
I'm all for it.
All for it.
Make the firearms first and then go to court.
alex jones
Because that's another system.
donald j trump
Because a lot of times, by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court to get the due process.
dan friesen
First, I just had to pause for a second.
Just to point out, like, this, it sounds like...
Progress or something, I guess.
It's not.
He's still a crazy person.
But, like, the only thing I want to get is, like, Obama's never said anything close to this.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
He's just, like, nothing.
Even remotely close to, let's circumvent the courts and take people's guns and then we'll go to court.
jordan holmes
He wore a brown jacket and they went ape shit.
dan friesen
Exactly.
It's insane.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
These people are stupid.
dan friesen
Nuts.
jordan holmes
And he's crazy.
Are you guys kidding?
Did none of you see this coming?
You elected an insane toddler.
Of course, sooner or later he's going to hear something and he's going to be like...
Oh, shit, that's a good idea.
I like that shit, too.
dan friesen
It's like, shit's getting too hot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Better agree with the Democrats.
jordan holmes
I'll agree with everybody.
I don't give a shit.
Anybody?
Who has something good to say?
Yeah, I hate domestic violence, too.
Wait, would that apply to me?
Okay, no?
Then we're good.
Let's toss that in there.
dan friesen
That part of it is actually a really important piece, and that is...
jordan holmes
No, that's the most important piece.
dan friesen
Well, but, like, a lot of the domestic violence guidelines that are in place in a lot of states only relate to, like...
jordan holmes
Husbands and wives.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Partners, not anything like that.
dan friesen
And you could beat your girlfriend and still get a gun.
That sort of thing.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
Those are the sort of loopholes that that person was talking about including in that bill.
That's important.
I think that people really should do that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
And domestic violence, as we've seen a million times over, is one of the...
dan friesen
Probably the number one indicator.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Of this sort of behavior.
Anyway.
unidentified
Procedures.
jordan holmes
I like taking the guns early.
unidentified
Like in this...
Crazy man's case that just took place in Florida.
jordan holmes
Yeah, get up at six.
unidentified
They saw everything.
donald j trump
To go to court would have taken a long time.
So you could do exactly what you're saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second.
jordan holmes
And I'm a fan of the NRA.
unidentified
I mean, there's no bigger fan.
I'm a big fan of the NRA.
They want to do it.
These are great people.
These are great patriots.
They love our country.
jordan holmes
But that doesn't mean we have to agree on everything.
donald j trump
It doesn't make sense that I have to wait until I'm 21 to get a handgun, but I can get this weapon at 18. I don't know.
So I was just curious as to what you did in your bill.
unidentified
We didn't address it, Mr. President.
alex jones
Why?
Because you're afraid of the NRA.
unidentified
That was the NRA five years ago.
It's a big issue right now.
alex jones
A lot of people are afraid of that issue, raising the age for that weapon to 21. So the witch, Dianne Feinstein, who can't even get her own party's nomination in California, is behind herself like she's beside herself like she's entered heaven here.
She can't believe he's saying all this.
And I get, just like DACA, he was like reasonable, like he always said during the campaign.
Yeah, 1,800,000 people been here 20, 30 years, no criminal record.
Sure, fast-track them to be a citizen.
dan friesen
Is that what he said?
alex jones
That's not what he said.
And the media said, oh, he hates all the Mexicans and wants to deport them all and he wants to kill them and he hates them and he says they're all scum and criminals.
He didn't say that.
So then right-wingers go, I'm a libertarian.
They go, oh, Trump lied to us.
He said he hates the Mexicans and now he hadn't deported.
He never said that.
dan friesen
So that part at the end is really interesting because he's expressing, like, some people are disappointed that he doesn't hate Mexicans enough.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
No.
He never said that he didn't hate Mexicans enough.
dan friesen
No, I think there's a lot of people, probably the places he gets his news, like message boards, who are like that.
jordan holmes
They're very mad.
dan friesen
Yeah, I thought he hated minorities.
And he does.
Don't worry.
But yeah, he plays this long collection of clips.
Of Trump being very clear that, like, I'm going to help get this bill passed.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, add your stuff in.
Hey, I agree.
It doesn't make sense I can get a handgun at this age and another gun at another.
jordan holmes
I love that that is something that they're furious about.
Like, what?
You can't say that!
And even, how stupid is it?
Even Trump is like...
No, that doesn't make sense.
That's how stupid the NRA is.
Trump disagrees with you.
dan friesen
And in that last clip, he's like, hey, why haven't you guys made any progress on this?
You're afraid of the NRA.
unidentified
Trump is cocking them out in the middle of that meeting.
jordan holmes
It's hilarious.
And that's why Dianne Feinstein is in heaven.
It's not because she thinks this matters.
It's not because she's going to get her bill passed or anything like that.
It's because it's fucking hilarious to be in the room while those pussy bitches are getting dunked on.
dan friesen
Well, they're getting dunked on, but at the same time, I feel like there is a part of her that thinks, like, maybe we can make progress on this.
Also, she doesn't actually want to.
jordan holmes
She's Dianne Feinstein.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
She's a horrible, horrible Democrat.
dan friesen
I'm not going to get on her side, but I also think that the relevant conversation, after listening to all those clips, is not about how she's smiling.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
dan friesen
But that's what Alex chooses to get into, because it's like, otherwise, I've got to wrestle with the fact that, holy shit.
My guy is...
unidentified
Like, this is worse than when Trump said, I'm a globalist.
For Alex, this is worse than that.
dan friesen
And he's just like, oh, shit.
And if I had to guess, I would say that during that two minutes is probably when he was chugging some Jameson's.
I imagine he was like, because the video is off him.
It's just playing a video of Trump.
It's a good opportunity for him to get a little booze in him, and he proceeds to get a bit more fucked up pretty quick after that.
So I think that, like, because I was watching it, and I'm like, this is a rollercoaster of booze.
Because he's pretty gravelly drunk there at the beginning, and then pretty quick here.
He ends up getting to the drunk, esoteric Alex we know, and then by the time it's over, it's crashed.
jordan holmes
It's angry, crash drunk.
dan friesen
Not angry, but just like...
Let's not spoil anything.
Let's get to this next clip where he's this close to condemning Trump.
This close.
But he gets sidetracked by what is more in his milieu as a journalist.
alex jones
I'm not going to lie to you.
That rhetoric.
I mean, if you just watched Dianne Feinstein, can we play that video?
The one with her cat.
I forget what it's named.
jordan holmes
That rhetoric.
alex jones
We played all day long.
I mean, it is the stuff nightmares are made of it.
So yeah, new core steel in Texas is happy.
And yeah, we got billions and billions of new dollars coming in.
Hundreds of billions every month.
Millions of new jobs.
I like all that.
He's a pro-American president.
And I told you, he's not a conservative.
He's a populist, kind of middle-of-the-run pragmatist.
jordan holmes
None of those things.
alex jones
Well, the Democrats won't join him and why.
But, man, don't you get it, President?
They're not going to let you be the pragmatist.
It's all a big joke.
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Let's play this.
I mean, this is right out of Wizard of Oz.
Let's play the video here.
dan friesen
So then he plays Dianne Feinstein, like, holding her hands together and smiling on a loop.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then intersperses video of the Wicked Witch of the West.
jordan holmes
That's pretty funny.
That's not bad.
That's not a bad bet.
dan friesen
What are you guys even doing?
jordan holmes
I like it.
I like it.
Let's definitely not deal with the fact that we elected a crazy person who suddenly acted crazy like we should have known he was always going to do, who then made the simplest point that infuriated the right.
Literally, all it is is just him going, well, yeah.
I mean, if you have to wait until 21 to get a handgun...
Shouldn't you have to wait until 21 to get all guns?
And the NRA is like, No!
dan friesen
Well, because the easiest argument to make is the exact argument just in reverse.
It's like, we should make all of them 18. Right.
Because you could, just using the same information in front of you, make that argument.
But the fact that he went the other way.
You know what it's like?
It's like hiring a Wolverine as your maid or something like that.
Just because the Wolverine is like, I like to tidy up sometimes or whatever.
And then all of a sudden it fucking attacks you while you sleep or whatever.
And you're like, what the fuck?
jordan holmes
Great analogy.
dan friesen
You brought a Wolverine into your house.
What did you think is going to happen?
It's going to attack you.
jordan holmes
Sure.
That's why the Democrats won't work with him.
It's because he's too reasonable.
It's because he's too pragmatic.
Or it's because he's fucking insane.
dan friesen
It's because he's a Wolverine.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just because he's good at dishes doesn't mean like...
I don't know.
I lost the metaphor.
jordan holmes
Yeah, keep that one going.
dan friesen
So anyway, this next clip is fucked up.
This is where I think the booze is hitting him.
alex jones
You judge a tree by its fruits.
Christ said that, and in my life I've learned it.
Let me tell you something.
You judge a restaurant by what kind of food gets put on your table.
You judge a man whether he can put food on the table and take care of his wife and whether he can get her pregnant.
And you judge mama whether she can, how good she takes care of that baby and how good daddy does.
A woman can be beautiful and all the rest of these things.
She can't deliver that baby.
She's not a bad person.
She's not fertile.
And Trump is like, Wait, what?
Popping babies out every five seconds.
I mean, he has super delivered.
So if he gets, I don't mean this to be gross, some miscarriages, if I got 20 good babies and a miscarriage, I'm not going to say mama's bad.
I'm going to say, we're dealing with a goddess here.
And I'm not comparing Trump to a goddess.
You get what I'm saying.
None of us men can do what women do.
They're magic.
So that's what I'm saying here is, Nobody's gonna turn on Trump harder than me.
dan friesen
Wait, that's the conclusion?
unidentified
Ooh, boy.
That is a fucked up way of thinking about anything.
jordan holmes
That's a fucked up way of thinking about anything.
dan friesen
Now hold on.
jordan holmes
That's fucked up!
dan friesen
No, it's not.
Well, it is.
But the first part of it...
Totally cool.
jordan holmes
No, he starts out fine.
dan friesen
You judge a restaurant by what they serve you as food.
jordan holmes
Perfect.
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
Nailed it.
dan friesen
Metaphor holds.
jordan holmes
Yes, you...
Stop there.
unidentified
Now, granted...
jordan holmes
You made a good metaphor.
dan friesen
Now, granted, also, you should think about their service.
But, at the same time, food is good enough, maybe you don't care.
Maybe you're like, they're rude, but...
unidentified
Right, right, right.
Some people like an Ed DeBevix.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
Who knows?
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
So then...
Oh, no.
Because the rest of it is really just like humans are only as good as their reproductive capacity.
unidentified
Yeah.
Which is...
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's fucked up.
jordan holmes
Hey, look.
If a woman can't bury kids, I'm not saying she's a bad person.
I'm just saying she doesn't count as a human being.
dan friesen
Right.
Now, the problem...
jordan holmes
She's of no worth to the rest of the species.
dan friesen
Now, the problem with that is, like, if it was a devoid of context, and he was just saying, if a woman can't have babies, she's not fertile.
Like, yes, that's the definition.
unidentified
Right.
It's because you judge a tree.
jordan holmes
It's because what it's surrounded by is the quality of a thing.
unidentified
You judge a tree by its roots.
And if this woman can't have fruits, you judge that tree for it.
Exactly.
That's what he's saying.
Yep.
Then, Trump is a goddess.
jordan holmes
Trump is a goddess.
unidentified
I'm not saying he's a goddess.
dan friesen
You understand what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
Spitting out 20 babies.
Spitting out 20 babies, one miscarriage.
Look, still a goddess.
I'm not saying he's a goddess.
All I'm saying is, Nobody's going to turn on Trump harder than me.
That is perfect.
dan friesen
But let's extend his metaphor even further and to say that Trump is popping out babies every five minutes or whatever.
My response to that would be...
That is not a long enough gestational period.
And he's popping out unviable babies.
jordan holmes
So all of his babies are miscarriages is what you're saying.
unidentified
Basically.
jordan holmes
He's got a lot of preemies coming out.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
That's the issue.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, if you want to use that piece of his analogy, that's the argument I would make against him.
jordan holmes
Well, and if we're going to judge Trump by quantity over quality of babies, that's a larger question there.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I don't care to unpack it.
I just think that that is incredibly fucked up.
jordan holmes
That's a weird way of thinking.
dan friesen
So at this point...
jordan holmes
That's a weird way of thinking about things.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
All of those things he said are weird.
It's not an okay way to view life.
unidentified
And what's crazy is they're weird in different ways.
jordan holmes
I know!
dan friesen
None of it is like uniform crazy.
jordan holmes
You judge a man by what he can put on the table and how many babies he can put in you.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's exactly how we should judge human beings.
dan friesen
It's in line with what Alex thinks, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
To some extent.
jordan holmes
So weird.
dan friesen
So weird.
unidentified
Such a...
jordan holmes
Like, that would make sense to, like, a 1930s dude, though, right?
dan friesen
Maybe, or like a farmer.
jordan holmes
Like an 1890s farmer would be like, well, first off, we gotta grab two or three children from the orphan train to help them work the field.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, I mean, if you're living in, like, a subsistence economy where you have to grow your food or tend the livestock...
Then absolutely, you need to reproduce in order to run your life.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Whereas nowadays, it's much less.
jordan holmes
Children are free labor is what Alex just said.
Children are free labor.
dan friesen
Well, no, he's not saying that, but that's one of the only rationalizations for that thought process.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
Or it's the only real world example where it's like, I get what you're saying.
It's still wild.
But to be like an Austin right wing radio host and hold those views.
It smacks of just, like, you don't see people as people.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
You see people as breeding machines.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's pretty fucked up.
So in this next clip, Alex is talking about how, like, at this point I believe he's still on the line of, like, I don't think Trump is really saying that he's going to take guns.
jordan holmes
Because of course not.
dan friesen
But if he does, fuck him.
That sort of thing.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And he starts talking about his signature, like Trump signing the bill.
And just a spoiler alert for what's happening, there's a lot of long pauses, and during the long pauses, he's got the document cam, the overhead cam, on the piece of paper in front of him, and as he's like, if Trump signs that paper, and then he signs his own name, and he realizes the camera's on it, and so then he writes, he signs Donald Trump's name underneath it as he's talking, and then just starts making a line of dots across the paper.
jordan holmes
He's doodling.
He's drunk and doodling and they've got the document cam on it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's crazy.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
They're trying to blame him for some school shooting.
dan friesen
They're not.
alex jones
He starts agreeing with them.
I'm such a purist.
I wouldn't do that.
That's why I'm not the president.
jordan holmes
There's a lot of reasons you're not the president.
alex jones
But if he puts his signature through a bill, he puts his name, he takes a bill.
The ban all semi-automatic rifles that Dianne Feinstein signs.
And he takes that pin.
dan friesen
He's playing it out.
alex jones
And he signs it.
Donald J. Trump.
Then there's going to be some big problems.
With that crazy secretary you've got.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
We're going to break his hand.
unidentified
He does that.
alex jones
His name's Mudd.
And you can guarantee this name will never back down.
dan friesen
So at that point, he's pointing back at his own signature.
alex jones
This name will never back down.
jordan holmes
He's at the over-enunciating consonants form of drunk right there.
dan friesen
Hold on, there's a little more to this clip.
jordan holmes
He grabs his bill.
alex jones
We'll never compromise.
And quite frankly, it isn't as slick as Trump.
I'll never play games.
I wouldn't even play these games with these people.
But I'm all about the frontal assault.
But I'm not sitting here saying I'm a greater man.
Trump's a greater man than I. Is he?
At 71, I'll be deader than door now, probably.
I couldn't do what he's done.
I'm not like other men that want to know, oh, I'm better than him.
I'm a real man.
No, I'll know what I've seen my better, at least in certain ways.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, totally.
jordan holmes
80% of his show is telling you he's a big man.
dan friesen
Daddy, I'm a big boy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
That should be the name of his show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be a great name for his show.
dan friesen
Daddy, I tied my shoes.
But yeah, at the end there, I want to meet him now because he says he'll recognize a better man when he meets him.
I want to see.
I want to be judged.
I want to go to him like the Oracle of Delphi.
jordan holmes
I want to go to him with like 18 different kids.
dan friesen
Right, just be like...
Any of these better than you?
jordan holmes
Hey, this one?
Also, I made all these, so I'm definitely better than you.
dan friesen
You're a great man.
Yeah.
So in this next clip, Alex Jones...
jordan holmes
Larry over there, he was a miscarriage, but I carry him around in tow.
dan friesen
In memory.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex, at this point, realizes he doesn't have enough content to do his late night shift.
jordan holmes
To do a 34-hour marathon?
dan friesen
Or even just his small shift in the middle of it.
And so he decides to go to calls, and we'll see how he doesn't go to calls.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
We're going to go to Raptor Man in New York.
dan friesen
Hell yeah.
alex jones
It's New York City, folks.
Here in New York State.
We're going to go to Raptor Man right now.
But first, while they're getting Raptor Man ready, I'm the type of person that...
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
alex jones
...when I am, which I usually am.
dan friesen
You're usually right.
alex jones
I don't have any illusions.
dan friesen
You usually win.
alex jones
You're the wind in our sails.
You're the ocean.
Chips on the blood in our heart, blood in our veins, the soul, the spirit in our guts.
unidentified
You're the inspiration!
alex jones
It's a paradox.
dan friesen
Sure.
alex jones
Because I do these promos and I do these sales to raise money.
jordan holmes
He does not know what a paradox is.
dan friesen
No.
alex jones
I do 50% off.
We're only making like 10 bucks on a product.
jordan holmes
That's not a paradox.
dan friesen
I think he thinks a paradox is a financial squeeze.
I need to sell products, and in order to sell them, I need to sell them for less, but then I make less money.
Ah, shit, what a paradox.
That's not a paradox.
That's just bad management.
alex jones
I used to, I'd do donation runs, and we'd base millions of dollars on donations every year.
Now we have donation buttons on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
They're on the About support section, and I think we raised like $10,000 a day on that.
A couple, you know, $300,000 in sales sounds like a lot, but the way we discount stuff, that's like $100,000 profit.
jordan holmes
You should not be telling people your business model.
dan friesen
That's very bad, too.
jordan holmes
Also, if you're getting $100,000 in profit, you're crushing it.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
$300,000 in revenue and $100,000 in pure profit?
dan friesen
Not for what he pretends his audience is.
jordan holmes
Oh.
I just meant ratio-wise.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, you make a third profit?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's huge!
dan friesen
Yeah, but I think he's ballparking that baby a little bit.
jordan holmes
Might be.
dan friesen
But the idea that they've sold $300,000 worth of product and gotten like $10,000 in donations, when he gets off air, that will be 12 hours into the marathon.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You gotta assume you're not making any money with that 300-viewer-count overnight shift with Harrison Smith boring everyone to sleep.
So you gotta assume that, like, Like, legitimately, that's really bad.
It's a lot of money, but that's really bad based on what he expects to make and what he pretends his audience is.
You should not be saying these things on air.
Probably.
jordan holmes
Period.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Which doesn't pay for 100-something employees and all this overhead and the lawyers, the attacks.
And I'm not big for it yet.
jordan holmes
Lawyers.
And the lawyers.
alex jones
All I'm saying is, you go to that grocery store, you go to that mall, you go to wherever, you spend all this money, and it goes to global corporations most of the time that want to screw you over.
We're selling water filtration, air filtration, books, videos, t-shirts, you name it.
So close to cost, at great prices, you're crazy.
If you don't go to InfoWarsStore.com...
unidentified
I'm being sued because my prices are too low!
alex jones
Have you seen them last week?
Try to shut down our YouTube channels, our Facebook, our Twitter.
dan friesen
So you see there, he's using the YouTube situation to his advantage.
I'm evicted!
jordan holmes
We're going to need you because they're going to get us.
They're going to get rid of us.
dan friesen
That's a big part of my argument as to why this is not a winning strategy in terms of taking care of Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's showing to be the case.
alex jones
Say that I'm a sexual assaulter and the EEOC complaint says a woman hugged me and I touched her on the back.
And that's not even true.
dan friesen
That's not what the complaint says.
alex jones
You think I just run around here hugging women all over the office when I know how this stuff works?
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
That's why I'm blaming the women?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Sounds like you're blaming the women.
alex jones
And then all the rest of it, like, we have open carry everywhere and it's intimidating.
And the very woman that followed it's like asking for concealed carry classes and on video shooting guns.
And there's not open carry in this office.
jordan holmes
You have a giant gun.
dan friesen
You have like a Gatling gun in the office.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's neither here nor there, though, really.
Like, her wanting concealed carry classes or whatever is irrelevant to the matter.
Like, even if she's saying that she felt intimidated by everyone carrying guns at the office, like, that doesn't...
Just because she wanted classes on it, that doesn't invalidate that she felt intimidated by it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would still be.
Even if I was super well-trained in gunfare...
I wouldn't want to work in an office where everybody's also wearing guns.
dan friesen
I've gone to the shooting range a number of times in my life, and I understand the enjoyment in shooting a gun recreationally.
I get it.
And I'm not against people owning guns as a rule or anything like that.
But if I was in an office, like when I worked at Groupon, if everyone was packing, I would be so scared.
jordan holmes
It would turn any small...
Mexican standoff very quickly.
dan friesen
Especially when you consider the hair trigger, pardon the pun, of people like Alex, like him going from crying to screaming, maybe performatively, but also sometimes it seems pretty like you're feeling these things.
Right.
unidentified
There's tons of allegations of him breaking stuff in commercial breaks, and he's even said on one of our episodes, he's like, oh, I just broke a bunch of stuff.
dan friesen
I feel better now.
unidentified
Yeah.
So that kind of thing is...
dan friesen
That's not a good environment to have gone.
Also, I've looked into this.
And Alex, at the beginning of his first shift, when he's talking about this allegation, he's like, open carry is illegal in Texas.
I looked it up.
It's not.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
Open carry is very much allowed.
And it's legal to have open carry or concealed carry in an office.
All you have to have is you can't have one of those signs that says no guns here or whatever.
You can have guns in private property.
Assuming Alex Jones broadcasts from private property, there's no reason why you couldn't have open carry in your office.
So the fact that he doesn't means something.
And the fact that he thinks open carry is illegal in Texas means he's not even aware of the gun laws in his state, which is troubling.
Anyway, there's a little more of this clip.
jordan holmes
It's just like with...
It's just like Trump and the sexual assault allegations where he's like, no, I never did that.
You can't prove anything.
And then you listen to the clip of him saying, oh, yeah, I do the exact things that these women have said that I did.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Like, Alex is like, no, we've never done all of that stuff.
I would never have it.
You know, I don't have guns out.
And every time it's like, well, let's go back to this show.
Whenever you said.
I love carrying guns all over the place.
I don't act in anger.
I don't do anything.
Well, let's go back to this show when you said that you broke that shit all the time.
I would never treat Ashley Beckford like that.
Well, let's go back to when you called a woman succulent.
dan friesen
Just a minute ago.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just literally a minute ago.
dan friesen
Luscious and succulent.
jordan holmes
It's not innocent until proven guilty, but if you've already...
Admitted to all of the crimes just without names attached to them?
I'm gonna go on you're guilty.
dan friesen
Well, Jordan, here's where you're done.
Trump said that that was locker room talk.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And...
Incidentally, that's the same kind of excuse that's coming out of Infowar's HR department.
jordan holmes
Currently.
dan friesen
Which is run by Alex Jones' CIA dentist father, David Jones.
jordan holmes
David Jones runs the HR department?
dan friesen
That's what's come out in this, uh...
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
That's a conflict of interest!
dan friesen
Number one.
jordan holmes
Are you kidding me?
dan friesen
Big time conflict of interest.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, so Ashley Beckford filed an HR complaint to Alex's dad?
dan friesen
Most likely.
jordan holmes
That is ridiculous!
dan friesen
To be fair, when I was reading from that EEOC complaint, that was Rob Jacobson who said he filed a complaint.
It wasn't Ashley, just for the sake of accuracy.
jordan holmes
Well, because Ashley, of course, knew that it was his fucking dad.
dan friesen
Well, to be fair, I think what I remember reading in that complaint was that I can't remember if she said she filed complaints while she worked there or not because she didn't know who was in charge of anything.
Well, that's fair enough.
jordan holmes
That's far more likely.
dan friesen
But Rob Jacobson did clearly.
jordan holmes
I mean, that has such the ring of, like, when you're talking to your mom because the elementary school bully beat you up and she calls his dad and his dad is clearly, like, the asshole who's the reason the kid's the bully in the first place and he's like...
I'll take care of this, and then he hits the kid, and then the bully comes to you the next day and is like, you told on me, if you ever do that again, boom, and he beats you up.
dan friesen
Now you're a snitch.
jordan holmes
That's the job!
That's the environment you work in.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Anytime your boss does something bad, you tell his dad on him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's insane.
dan friesen
Here's the quote, the statement that they made to the Daily Mail.
Jones' father, Dr. David Jones, who's the company's head of human resources, weighed in.
He admitted to Daily Mail...
jordan holmes
Who's the company's head of human resources?
dan friesen
That's crazy.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
He admitted to Daily Mail that the InfoWars office environment can often be like that of a locker room.
He also confirmed that Jacobson had made complaints to HR about certain issues, but insists none of those complaints were serious, or about anti-Semitism or racism.
jordan holmes
In writing, I did call him a pussy, yes, and told him to get on with his life.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So they sort of make some standard nonsense defenses.
When asked about the beefcake incident, Jones Sr. believed that it had something to do with a video incident.
jordan holmes
Great band, the beefcake incident.
dan friesen
That might have been a case of 30 seconds of someone giving him crap.
I can see that.
It's like a damn locker room.
It doesn't really fly.
jordan holmes
Not a good workplace environment.
dan friesen
No, that's not good.
We have zero tolerance for ethnic discrimination, except on air.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Wow.
Oh, here's the great quote.
Jones Sr. said the company is made up of, quote, equal opportunity offenders, adding, quote, we're a very yeasty environment and we give everybody crap.
I'm just being brutally honest here.
You don't want that from your HR head.
jordan holmes
Wow!
dan friesen
That's kind of an admission of guilt.
jordan holmes
Isn't that just saying like, oh yeah, we did that shit.
Yeah, we did that.
We did that, but that's kind of how we do.
That's not a legal defense of like, okay, I did do that.
But it's cool, man!
unidentified
Yay!
We're yeasty!
Yeah!
jordan holmes
We cultivate that kind of environment where women aren't allowed and they feel miserable all the time.
Come on, man!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Isn't that totally fine?
It's the 70s!
unidentified
Hey, bro!
We're mean to whites, too!
dan friesen
Like, that doesn't work.
jordan holmes
In fact, we know we're mean to whites because we only hire them.
I should not have said that part.
dan friesen
I feel like that quote might come up in court in terms of it being like...
Now, you've kind of admitted these allegations are foundationally true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
How do you respond?
jordan holmes
Now, we're looking at things you've said, such as, yes, I did that, and I did that too, and, oh, that one, I totally did.
dan friesen
You better believe it.
jordan holmes
And, fuck yeah, I did it!
Do you think these statements reflect poorly upon you as we speak right now?
dan friesen
Yeasty!
jordan holmes
All right, all right.
We're going to find you super guilty.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, in this next clip, boy, I don't even know how to set this up.
This is just an incredibly weird ramble that gets into a sales pitch in the middle, but Alex is pretty noncommittal about it because he wants to talk about spiritual issues a little bit more than he wants to talk about sales.
But those spiritual issues are in service of trying to make more sales.
jordan holmes
Just like Jesus said.
dan friesen
Exactly.
So he's like inviting the money changers back into the church.
More or less.
jordan holmes
More like courting them back into the...
Hey, hey, hey, we'll give you a discount if you money change in our fucking church.
dan friesen
50% off apparel.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Easter sale.
alex jones
I'm not complaining, but it's tiring.
And it's heavy.
So heavy.
But quite frankly, going through all this, I've reached plateaus and ideas.
jordan holmes
You would not be good at community theater.
alex jones
And things I never would have reached if I hadn't been on this quest.
He's a rhyme smith.
jordan holmes
He's blessed to be on this quest.
But he is not too blessed to be stressed, my friend.
He is very stressed.
dan friesen
I, in some ways, relate to what he's saying, because I, too...
It's been a lot of work over the last year and a half or so.
But I've learned so much, and I feel very thrilled to have learned these things.
So I, too, am blessed to be on this quest.
Alex, let's see where you go from there.
alex jones
I'm not complaining, but I'm spiritually a lot older than most of the old people I know.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
I remember things I see people doing I used to do.
10 years ago, 20 years ago.
And I remember back when I was like them.
jordan holmes
You know, like when Ashley Beckford worked here.
alex jones
And all my humanity's gone.
Because my humanity's so strong.
I don't know how to explain that.
But I've done this so long trying to warn people.
I've done this so long studying the AI and the globalists and all the stuff they're doing to people.
I've become removed from it now.
I'm far away from it now.
jordan holmes
He's above us.
alex jones
And I guess that's the brain and the soul and the mind learns to anesthetize you from pain.
dan friesen
Heavy.
jordan holmes
And whiskey.
alex jones
And this whole fight is like 10,000 years ago now.
dan friesen
No, it's current.
alex jones
I realize we're nearing the completion.
We're nearing the final decision of the species.
And I just want you to make the right decision, which is whatever decision you want to make.
I'm not like the devil that lies to you and tries to trick you and try to get you to do something.
I just know Christ is real and it's all there waiting for you.
unidentified
I just know Christ is real and it's all there waiting for you.
alex jones
I'm not even strong enough to make sure my kids are lined up with God and every parent knows how that is.
I know the churches are corrupt.
I'm not sitting there saying they got all the answers.
All I'm telling you is there's a real devil and he wants to take you with him forever and you don't want to go there.
unidentified
That's all I'm saying.
alex jones
That's all I'm saying.
And so, there's a sick part of me that doesn't even want to get up here on air and beg for your support and your help.
dan friesen
That's not sick.
jordan holmes
No, that's actually very reasonable.
alex jones
Because if you don't instinctively and spiritually want to support us, then if you don't realize that we are on the very front lines of the information and spiritual war, as weak as we are, God, I don't say that at some boast.
I keep looking for somebody to come along.
jordan holmes
Why would that be a boast?
alex jones
It's going to do a better job.
I keep looking for somebody that wants...
I'm ready to put all my energy behind somebody else.
And I keep looking, and I keep looking, and I keep looking, and all I see is you.
dan friesen
So, real quick.
jordan holmes
I think what he just said is, I don't hire good people.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
I do not get quality recruits.
All these people are lemons.
dan friesen
The only people...
unidentified
Why does David Knight work here?
dan friesen
He's the best of God.
jordan holmes
Is he a legacy?
What happened?
Did my dad hire him?
Did I try and fire him and my dad said no?
Why did I make my dad head of human resources?
dan friesen
David Knight, Noah and Troyer are terrible.
Roger Stone keeps fucking with me.
I don't know what he's up to.
Jerome Corsi's a bum.
jordan holmes
Steve Pachetik doesn't respect me as a man.
dan friesen
Jerome Corsi told me he was setting up a D.C. bureau and he just keeps recording out of his apartment.
This is bullshit.
Lost my shirt trying to buy him an office.
What am I doing?
unidentified
All these people are scam artists.
dan friesen
I'm hanging out with Milo Yiannopoulos now.
What am I doing?
unidentified
God, God, help me.
jordan holmes
And don't even get me started on that prick, Watson.
dan friesen
But then he's also saying, I keep looking for someone to take over and all I see is you, the audience.
And that's almost like pointing a finger at them.
Like, you aren't doing enough.
But then at the same time, what he's saying is, I feel like there's a sick part of me that doesn't want to come beg for your money.
Which, again, like you said, I think that's probably your smartest part of your body, Alex, in that case.
But then...
The way he's framing it is, I don't want to convince you to give me money.
You should already get it.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
You should already understand.
No, no.
jordan holmes
He was very close to being like, if you haven't already given money to Infowars, you're not one of us.
dan friesen
Well, what I flash back to is when I was in church, one of the things that they would always tell us in the youth group is like, if you don't feel close to God...
You should pray to feel close to God.
And if you don't want to feel close to God, you should pray to want to feel close to God.
And they're like, oh, okay.
Alright.
That's weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But that's like, if you're not giving us money, you should want to give us money.
If you don't want to give us money, you should want to want to give us money.
It's just like this weird, like...
It's like a Chai Com nesting doll.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, it's just the woman inside, the woman inside.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
It makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, this clip got a little left here.
alex jones
Because it's all of us, the individuals that are going to change the world.
It's all the little things we do.
It's not one hero that's going to do it.
It's all of us together.
dan friesen
Little things like buying my food.
alex jones
And I just pray that we can have a fix to this at justice.
So that my son and my three daughters who are Jewish don't have to go through the tribulation.
dan friesen
Not one of the daughters.
alex jones
But you know what my gut tells me?
Humanity's going to have to pay for what we've done with unborn children.
And I have my children so they can be alive when all this happens so good people are here.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
And we're all going to pay real hard.
We're going to face Satan on the earth, AI, robots, everything.
Because we forsake God.
jordan holmes
That's everything.
alex jones
And God's just.
And so all of you that think this is funny.
dan friesen
That's us.
alex jones
And you serve evil and you think it's all a big joke.
jordan holmes
Why did you go straight there?
alex jones
You're going to hide the deepest mountains and bash your head, hoping you can die and you're not going to be able to die.
God isn't that AI.
And you're going to beg for God to kill you.
And God's not going to kill you.
Because you served.
jordan holmes
Seems like a weird God.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Seems like a weird God.
unidentified
That is dark.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you pray for God to kill you.
But no, that God that you thought was full of love, he's more about torturing you for eternity.
dan friesen
Because you were wrong.
jordan holmes
Because you treated unborn babies poorly.
dan friesen
Right.
Alex, you've paid for multiple abortions.
Calm down.
Also, just the feeling that I get from that is like, there's just an uh feeling to it.
That really, it delights me, to a certain extent.
But also, Alex there, when he's like, all you people who think this is funny, I think it's just because he has an awareness that, like, there's people laughing at him.
jordan holmes
What he just said was hilarious.
Yeah, exactly.
Because he went right there, he was like, it's gonna be Satan.
The AI is going to walk the earth.
unidentified
Robots.
jordan holmes
That's everything.
And to all you who think that's funny, and you're like, well, that's objectively funny, Alex.
dan friesen
I think he knows we exist.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I don't want to get too highfalutin here, but the fact that multiple Infowars employees started, like, retweeting, not retweeting, but, like, faving tweets that I had, or that Engels guy responding to one of my tweets.
John Rappaport followed us the other day.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So, like, I think that there's some sort of an awareness.
There might be...
I can't say for sure, but that would explain why Alex is, like, self-aware enough to know that some people are laughing at me.
But also, that could just be normal human self-awareness, because it is funny.
jordan holmes
It's hilarious.
What he just said is fucking stupid.
dan friesen
We're gonna have to fight Satan on Earth.
And AI.
jordan holmes
AI and robots.
dan friesen
Everything.
jordan holmes
That covers it.
dan friesen
Why didn't he say Chimera?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
unidentified
That's his whole thing.
Just a couple months ago, he was saying that chimeras are it.
That's the big thing.
jordan holmes
That's the big thing.
dan friesen
He's moved on to AI now.
jordan holmes
Well, chimeras were just a fad.
dan friesen
Yeah, that was just what I'm into now.
Anyway, in this next clip, Alex Jones makes a bold declaration that I don't believe.
alex jones
And all I say is buckle up.
Buckle up.
unidentified
Who-de-hoo!
dan friesen
Buckle up.
alex jones
Cassine.
My soul has space jumped down just a little ways into where this is going.
Just to take a look where they're going to take us if we lose.
Go to bed.
The truth is you don't want to go there.
unidentified
Okay.
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
So your soul has space jumped.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
You know where it's going.
dan friesen
Hell.
jordan holmes
You don't want to go there.
We are going there, though.
dan friesen
Apparently, yeah.
jordan holmes
If his soul had space jumped, where did his space jump to?
Are we talking about space jumping, or are we talking about time?
dan friesen
Time and space are the same.
jordan holmes
Time and space, that's a good point.
dan friesen
They are one in the same equation.
jordan holmes
That's right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
He's just a crazy person.
jordan holmes
He's created an Einstein-Rosen bridge underneath the Infowar studios.
dan friesen
No, all this is is that fucking weird dream he had in 2015.
I think that's probably what he's referring to.
I think we've listened to too much of this show that we can know, like, ah, that's what he's talking about.
Ah, your soul time jumped?
I know what you're talking about, buddy, when you had that really long dream.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
You crazy person.
dan friesen
If you're just watching this and you're like...
Oh, wow.
That's profound.
Like, no.
jordan holmes
No, it was a dream he had a few years ago.
Don't worry about it.
dan friesen
So finally, I know by now you've probably forgotten, but he said he was going to go to calls.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's right.
He's going to go to calls.
dan friesen
So here's the beginning of Raptor Man.
jordan holmes
Where's Raptor Man?
dan friesen
Here's the beginning of Raptor Man's call in.
alex jones
Raptor Man in New York.
unidentified
You're on the air, thanks for having me.
How you doing, Alex?
I can tell.
The personal betrayal that you've endured has hurt you, man.
It's really humbling to see.
I can tell you're an honest man, and you hate it when people take advantage of you and do things that aren't honorable, and you're just trying to help people.
alex jones
Well, I appreciate that.
Now, it hurts to me that their show fallen.
dan friesen
You pussy.
unidentified
Yeah.
Get out of here.
jordan holmes
He had to, because...
He can't allow other people to feel bad for him.
He listened to that and here heard somebody, a listener, saying, I feel bad for you, Alex.
And he's like, you can't feel bad for me.
I feel great.
I always feel great.
I feel bad, not for me.
So don't you feel bad for me.
I feel bad for the bad guys because they should feel bad.
They're the ones who feel bad.
dan friesen
So cowardly.
jordan holmes
You should not hold me.
dan friesen
Right, that's what's underneath it.
And you know what?
I was watching this in live time, and then when I went back and watched it to cut the clips and what have you, there's two things that are running parallel with the callers that are really interesting.
There's a sales piece of it, and I'll talk about that a little bit further down the road, but there's a B storyline that Alex wants to fucking cry on air.
You can feel it in him.
There's so much of that voice and what have you.
He wants to go to a caller that says something that allows him to launch into a rant that will make him cry.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because they think he thinks that it'll be great television.
But unfortunately, Raptor Man comes in with a pity party, and he knows that if he cries from that, he's weak.
jordan holmes
He's weak.
dan friesen
And he can't show ass to his audience.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
dan friesen
And then there's another caller later who does the same thing, and you can tell it's like, fuck.
You can almost see it in his face that it's like, I can't work with this.
It's not...
Don't you guys...
I need to fake emotion, and you are only giving me emotion that is weak!
It's very frustrating for him.
But Raptor Man's call takes a turn for the real...
It's not good.
alex jones
Well, we know there are good people in every race, color, and creed.
We know there's bloodlines, though, that the enemy tends to focus on.
And I think it's because the enemy fears those bloodlines.
If those people were to...
Actually stand up and do what their full potential was.
They'll be very successful and help free humanity.
But I think those people are targeted because of their potential.
And it's a very, very sad thing.
So we have to grieve.
We have to grieve for them and just understand that what they see in us is a projection of themselves.
dan friesen
What the fuck?
jordan holmes
They're afraid of certain bloodlines.
dan friesen
The Illuminati, I guess, or the powers that be, the New World Order, they target certain bloodlines because they're afraid of their potential.
Right.
jordan holmes
Like, we're talking about, we're going back to Dune.
We're talking about Atreides again.
That's what we're talking about here?
dan friesen
He said, setting that up, there's good people in all races, colors, and queens.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
But there's better people in certain bloodlines.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
You know which ones I'm talking about.
dan friesen
That clip, the context is clear.
By bloodlines, he's talking about race, ethnic origin, and that sort of thing.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
That's what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
You got it.
Nailed it.
I'm not racist.
I don't think certain races are bad.
I just think certain races are better.
dan friesen
Certain races are so good that they have been held down by my imaginary enemies.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Yeah.
Like mine.
Like I am...
I...
I am confederate royalty, Dan.
dan friesen
There's no doubt about that.
jordan holmes
Why aren't I the king of the confederacy?
dan friesen
It kind of is.
jordan holmes
They have held my bloodline down.
All my dad is is a dentist, an HR guy, and of course he works for the CIA from time to time.
dan friesen
Fully unqualified to be HR.
jordan holmes
See, this is nepotism.
This is what this is.
dan friesen
Head of HR is not like an entry-level position.
That's a career.
jordan holmes
That is a job.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What is he doing in his side hours?
dan friesen
He's moonlighting.
No, because he's retired from dentistry.
Oh.
jordan holmes
So he's just the head of HR.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Probably just there to take cover.
Provide cover for Alex.
jordan holmes
Which he's doing a very bad job of.
Essentially admitting that your kid did all the crimes.
dan friesen
Every good run has to come to an end.
I'm sure they've had a ball for a while.
And now the chickens are coming home to roost.
jordan holmes
Poor guys.
dan friesen
Anyway, in this next clip, Alex Jones talks about how seeing poor people doesn't make him happy.
Makes him want to murder.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
alex jones
You think?
Let's play that video.
We can't go back to calls.
You think I feel big when I see people, little kids, eating out of trash cans in Venezuela?
And I know they've got thousands every week dying of starvation.
You think I go, oh, look at those Hispanic people down there eating out of trash cans?
I'm a white guy in Texas, man.
I'm Alex Jones.
I'm a big guy.
dan friesen
This is so close to Andy Daly's Don DeMello.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like the kind of voice.
It's gross.
jordan holmes
And then the girls.
And then the girls.
dan friesen
Kids eating out of trash cans.
unidentified
Bring the girls in with the dancing shoes.
dan friesen
It's damn close.
alex jones
Yeah.
I'm a lot better than them.
See, to me, that's satanic.
But let me tell you, a lot of people, including the people that run those countries, When they drop by their limousine or their helicopter and they see those families eating their garbage, it makes them feel real bad.
Let me tell you what it makes me want to do.
Slit some throats.
dan friesen
Gross.
jordan holmes
Going to kill those kids?
dan friesen
Is that what he's saying?
alex jones
That isn't going to fix things.
We've got to grow crops.
dan friesen
Sure.
alex jones
We've got to promote free market.
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
We've got to teach Renaissance.
dan friesen
What does that mean?
jordan holmes
Crops.
Crops are the reasons those kids are...
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
50 years ago was as rich as the U.S. per capita.
The average Venezuelan citizen was making as much as a U.S. citizen.
Look it up.
They were on par in the 1970s and 60s with the U.S. And guess who was above the U.S. and Venezuela?
It was Argentina.
But they had big, slick New York banks come in and teach them how to run stuff and teach them how to be socialist.
dan friesen
These slick New York banks came in and taught them socialism.
jordan holmes
You know the slick New York banks that are so huge into socialism these days?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I want to talk to you a little bit about...
jordan holmes
If there's anything I know about Goldman Sachs, it's nobody is bigger into socialism than them.
dan friesen
I want to talk to you a little bit about Venezuela, because I think the way that Alex Jones speaks about the situation there is really disgusting and degrading.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I believe he was...
Was he trying to talk about how in Venezuela they shared oil?
Profits amongst the people.
dan friesen
Somewhat.
But they didn't actually.
That was later.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That was towards, once the oil companies became nationalized.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That was after like 1976.
But this is from a website called the Venezuela Analysis.
There's a lot of research into cultural and historical aspects of Venezuela.
I'm just going to read some of this as a quote.
jordan holmes
I would have gone with Venezuela analysis.
dan friesen
That's a good...
jordan holmes
Portmanteau?
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It was not until 1912 that the first oil well was drilled.
Shortly thereafter, first Royal Dutch Shell and then Standard Oil became major producers of This, of course, had an immediate and dramatic impact on the country's economy, known among economists as the Dutch disease.
The most important consequence of these was Syphilis.
unidentified
The agricultural production declined to almost nothing, and the country fell behind in industrializing relative to Latin American countries.
dan friesen
The definition of the Dutch disease explanation is, this economic disease is caught whenever a commodity brings a sudden increase of income in one sector of the economy, which is not matched by increased income in other sectors of the economy.
What happens is that this sudden sectoral increase causes severe problems in the other sectors.
The increased sectoral income causes distorted growth in services and other non-tradables which cannot be imported while discouraging the production of tradables which are imported.
The reason for this disparity is that the greater income rapidly raises the demand for imports since domestic production can't meet Right.
The increased demand for imported goods and domestic services, in turn, cause an increase in prices, which ought to cause domestic production to increase, but doesn't, because the flow of foreign exchange into the economy has caused a greater inflation of wages and prices.
So that...
jordan holmes
It's the...
unidentified
It's...
jordan holmes
What is it?
Douglas Adams, it was the shoe point.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You have an economy suddenly starts making a lot of shoes.
Everybody wants shoes all the time, so then people start making more shoes.
Everybody starts their own shoe store.
Then you forget, oh, we don't have any groceries.
Right.
dan friesen
And their agricultural production becomes almost nothing.
Exactly.
unidentified
So the continually increasing oil income led to an ever-increasing reliance in Venezuela on this source of income in lieu of individual income taxes.
dan friesen
By the 1950s, however, the world oil industry began to feel the effects of the oversupply of oil, especially following the increased production of oil in the Middle East and the imposition of import quotas on the United States.
The consequence was chronically low oil prices.
In 1973, there was a Middle East oil embargo, which led to the revenues of Venezuela's oil sales quadrupling from 1972 to 1974.
Newly elected President Carlos Andres Perez intended to use the vast experience This had a good effect for a while, but in the mid-1980s, the price of oil crashed to a low of $3.19 a barrel and Venezuela was devastated.
While agricultural production made up one-third of Venezuela's GDP in the 1920s, it shrank to less than one-tenth by the 1950s.
Current agriculture makes up about 6% of Venezuela's GDP.
In addition to the Dutch disease problem, the sudden increase of oil revenues in Venezuela caused a serious problem in the government's fiscal policies.
That is, the new revenues caused the illusion that the oil income could be used to industrialize the country via massive infrastructure projects.
to sow the oil, as the president at the time of the oil boom, Carlos Andres Perez, used to say.
What happened was that the quadrupled government income caused government spending to quickly increase and even surpass the newfound revenues.
When the oil income began to decline again, it was not as easy to reduce government income Funny how that works.
The result was that the government gradually went deeper and deeper into debt.
Between 1970 and 1994, foreign debt rose from 9% to 53% of the GDP.
So the reason that Venezuela is devastated is partially mismanagement and partially, like, you know, some problems.
It's not gotten better, necessarily.
But the cause of all of it is...
jordan holmes
The white man.
dan friesen
Well, you can simplify it that way if you want.
But it is this Dutch disease idea.
Where their economy was solely reliant on oil.
jordan holmes
And if your economy is solely reliant on the fluctuations in price of one particular commodity, then your government is also going to be just as fluctuated.
It is going to, as you can see from the way that Venezuela has had so many fucking coups and revolutions and all of this stuff over and over again, is because ultimately your economy is fucked.
Even when it's going well, it's really just masking how fucked it is.
dan friesen
Well, and that's what was happening in the 60s and 70s.
When you had that quadrupling of income from oil, you had the illusion of the average GDP being the per capita is much higher because there are tons of people who are making a shitload of money on this oil, and it inflates the appearance of the economy when you look at it in terms of averages.
I think that the situation's far more complicated than even I presented it as, or you and I fully understand.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But the reason that Venezuela got devastated and is still trying to work it out is because of that Dutch disease element.
And Alex's belief that it's like, oh no, this is what happens with socialism, is fucking stupid.
There's a much more complicated ecosystem that that exists in.
jordan holmes
That's what happens with capitalism.
Literally, that is the score.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Capitalists went in and destroyed it.
dan friesen
Right.
Yep.
That's it.
jordan holmes
That's the free market, Alex.
dan friesen
Alex is stupid.
In this next clip, he starts to get introspective.
And once again, we see an indication that maybe I'm doomed to failure.
alex jones
I'm up here doing a fundraiser because...
dan friesen
Yeah, you are.
alex jones
I'm trying to expand.
I'm trying to hire more hosts.
I'm trying to have more people on it to cover every clip and beat the globalists and beat the censorship.
And hey, maybe I'm not supposed to.
Owen and Darren.
Owen Schroer and Darren McBreen are coming up.
dan friesen
Great.
alex jones
Maybe we're not meant to beat these people.
But you know what?
jordan holmes
We got 50% off.
alex jones
They got a thing where they take puppies, baby puppies or baby cats and breeding that aren't the way they want them to look.
unidentified
Do they?
alex jones
They just put you in a bath of water.
And the globalists have decided to exterminate everybody and brought little puppies in a cage.
And they're going to set us into a bed of water, a tub of water, and I'm going to chew on a lock until I finally roll over and my eyes go up.
And that's why they call me a racist tonight.
I don't want to die.
jordan holmes
Is that why?
alex jones
I don't want to die.
jordan holmes
Were those their reasons specifically?
unidentified
No.
alex jones
And kill you.
They already told me they'd take me many times, but I realized they're dead already.
He's like, oh, join us, we won't kill you.
And I'm like...
You're dead already.
They're not.
They may be in a sleep, Sleeping Beauty over there, but they're not.
jordan holmes
It's a very strange conversation.
unidentified
No, that's okay.
alex jones
My ancestors are dead.
I'm not yet.
So, again, you've got to understand the mindset of these people.
dan friesen
That I'm creating in my head.
jordan holmes
I understand the mindset of the people he thinks he's talking about more than I understand the mindset of him.
In the mindset of the people he thinks he's talking about.
dan friesen
I understand the mindset of the people that are his enemies, his fake enemies, because it's the mindset of many classical villains from film.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
These are tropes of literature and that sort of thing.
I get that.
I've seen a Bond movie or whatever.
unidentified
You've got to understand the mindset of Blofeld.
It doesn't make any sense what he's doing.
jordan holmes
He's just describing plot holes.
His entire career is him describing plot holes.
That's it.
dan friesen
In his own screenplay?
jordan holmes
In his own screenplays.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's weird.
It is much more difficult to try and wrestle with what is the mindset of the person who would create these fictional enemies to be up against just so you can make money, I guess.
jordan holmes
And that's why they call him racist.
Right.
dan friesen
Maybe it's because of all the racism.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
Anyway, at this point, Alex Jones gets a caller, and I've never heard...
jordan holmes
His name is Man Raptor.
dan friesen
No.
I have never heard a caller whose voice more matches what they say they're up to than this guy.
This is crazy.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Let's take another call.
Thank you.
Robert in California.
Go ahead.
jordan holmes
Hello, sir.
unidentified
in the 36th District of California.
alex jones
Well, you're a brave man, brother.
unidentified
Go ahead.
alex jones
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Dangerous.
I am so honored to be fighting this guy.
alex jones
I'm honored to fight with you, brother.
unidentified
Oh, God.
I'm a proud member of the NRA, and I support Trump 100%.
However, like you, I am very, very concerned.
He shouldn't be so nice to all these people who treat him so badly.
dan friesen
Great.
Wow.
unidentified
That guy's either 80?
dan friesen
Or 22. You know what I'm saying?
He could go either way.
jordan holmes
Also, shouldn't Alex be getting his high school bully rage up right now?
Listening to that voice, I wasn't a bully.
And listening to that voice, I'm like, I'm going to steal that guy's lunch money.
I want to steal that guy's lunch money so bad right now.
dan friesen
But no, because he's on the same side as Alex and he loves the NRA and thinks Trump should be meaner.
jordan holmes
I am a proud card-carrying member of the NRA.
dan friesen
Sure, that guy's a dweeb.
jordan holmes
He's a dweeb.
dan friesen
He's on Nerd Patrol, but at the same time, like...
He's on the same side as you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but come on, man.
dan friesen
He's like the nerd who teaches you about Moneyball and helps you improve your baseball game.
Yeah, I don't know.
Trying to think of some...
unidentified
My name's Robert Bentley, and I am on the ballot.
dan friesen
I called that perfectly, though.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you fucking nailed that.
I really kind of didn't understand exactly what it was you were trying to say, and then it all was clear.
Immediately clear.
dan friesen
That guy, like, based on...
That's not a put-on voice, like, that he's just created for himself.
That guy was born to run for Congress as a Republican.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly!
That guy was a chimera.
dan friesen
He's living his truth.
So in this next clip, I want you to not talk over it really quick.
It's not that awful or anything, but I want you to listen to Robert here, the guy who's running for Congress.
jordan holmes
Oh, I thought he was going to go away real quick.
dan friesen
No, he will after this clip.
But I just want to not interrupt it because it's interesting to listen to him say he doesn't categorize people and then proceed to categorize people.
unidentified
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
These people are so stupid.
dan friesen
It's fascinating within the same sentence.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
It's hard to...
Be polite about it.
It is so awful, so disgusting.
Most of the people, I deal with regular folks.
I deal with people of every color, people who like to categorize people.
I deal with people of every category.
I don't categorize them.
We always get along.
But I recently went to the Women's March in Palm Springs.
The mayor of Palm Springs is a...
Transsexual person.
dan friesen
Category.
unidentified
Now, this person led, essentially, the march.
Talk about mansplaining.
alex jones
This is absurd.
unidentified
It's a man in a dress.
alex jones
No, I get it.
Exactly.
It's like a man as a woman leading the women.
And again, it's all Tavistock Institute to break up families, confuse things.
I don't care if a man wants to be a woman.
I'm not.
Like, oh, I've got to bow down to you.
Oh, my God.
And I've got to pay to have your genitals cut off or whatever.
It's like, no, just stop it.
And you're right.
Then they end up leading the women, and it's a man doing it.
And it's all like some joke.
I appreciate your call.
dan friesen
Great, great.
jordan holmes
It actually, Alex, it does sound like that because that sounds like it was written as a joke.
It sounds like I was at the Women's March, and the mayor...
Was it transsexual?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Talk about mansplaining!
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's the hackiest bit I've ever heard.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I'm sure that flies around like a...
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
No, he thinks that's hilarious, and he was shocked he didn't get a huge laugh out of it.
dan friesen
I bet his buddies love it.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
They're like, you're the funniest guy running for Congress.
jordan holmes
That's hilarious.
I get along with everybody.
Name anybody.
dan friesen
All of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Name every person you've ever got along with.
jordan holmes
For real.
I...
I do not know anything about this guy, and I would never get along with him.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Just by listening to him.
dan friesen
You hear that voice, and you gotta go.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I hear that voice, and I'm like...
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
I don't know what it is.
dan friesen
I don't know what it is.
I've lost or never really had the, like, rage that comes from nerd voices like that.
But I do have, like, avoid, avoid.
jordan holmes
I never...
No, it's not...
dan friesen
Especially among adults.
jordan holmes
I'm not...
It's not anger.
It's just like...
You should not do that, and you know you don't have to.
Right.
dan friesen
The other part, too, is just the, like, I don't categorize people.
And then he says transsexual person, which is not great.
jordan holmes
It's a category.
dan friesen
Well, it's a category.
jordan holmes
He went by, was that kingdom or phylum?
Which way was he going to categorize?
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then he's just transphobic.
Anyway, Alex, in this next clip, discusses how important what's going on right now is.
jordan holmes
Also, what does he think he's actually saying whenever he's talking about a trans woman leading the Women's March?
dan friesen
He thinks that it's...
jordan holmes
Does he think that that's...
dan friesen
It's a Pied Piper thing for him, I think.
jordan holmes
Is that what he thinks?
He thinks that a man is tricking them by removing his own genitals.
dan friesen
Well, Alex's got to pay for it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, that's true.
So, in this scenario, Alex has already paid for it.
dan friesen
Right.
And he's mad.
jordan holmes
From what I understand, that is insane to this guy.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Because the man is bad.
dan friesen
Yes.
I guess.
He would be a trans-exclusionary feminist if he was a feminist.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's a trans-exclusionary misogynist.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I guess?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
So wait, wouldn't he be on the side of the guy if the guy was...
Never mind.
I can't parse this.
This is stupid.
What he's saying is really stupid.
dan friesen
It's baffling, but at the same time, I want to get to this clip because it's really funny.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex is really getting grandiose, and then he takes a turn where I think it's the point where he's like, I can't get drunk enough to enjoy this.
alex jones
I want to go forward with you into the stars, and I'm scared we're not going to make it.
It's gone so far.
Look how far we got.
Please join me.
Please.
We've come so far.
If you just believe in humanity and God, we can have everything together.
They'll study all this a thousand years from now when our species is on Alpha Centauri.
jordan holmes
That ain't nothing new to me.
Black Panther soundtrack.
alex jones
Are we really that fallen?
Can we reach for the stars?
It's written in our flag.
Alright, I'm done.
I'm done.
I gotta go home and go to bed.
We're gonna take five, six calls and I'm out of here.
unidentified
Alright.
dan friesen
I just love this.
alex jones
Alright, I'm done.
jordan holmes
I gotta go to bed.
I'll take five or six calls and then I'll get out of here.
dan friesen
I'm so drunk.
I'm so tired.
jordan holmes
We're gonna go to the stars.
It's written on our flag.
dan friesen
Rob Do, call me an Uber.
jordan holmes
Who?
Who wrote it on the flag?
Tell me who wrote it on the flag.
Somebody wrote it.
I'm going to take some calls.
I've got to get out of here.
dan friesen
He's just at this point, too, I think, manifesting an intense frustration that none of these callers are giving him what he needs, namely the impetus to cry.
And so he goes on to another call, and she also does not succeed in making him cry.
Because, again, because it would make him look weak.
The way she's presenting things normally should get you into an emotional state, but Alex doesn't like soft emotions.
alex jones
Let's start with Judy in Florida.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, Alex.
It's good to talk to you again.
jordan holmes
Oh, Mom, are you okay?
unidentified
I was looking at you earlier on the screen, and I've never seen you look so sad and tired.
And I know you're very tired with all the work that you're doing.
So tired.
I think one of the individuals that have taken the biggest brunt of this thigh-off has been you because of all the attacks.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
At this point, Far Out was...
jordan holmes
If there's anyone I know who's the victim right now, boy, it sure is Alex.
dan friesen
At this point, Far Out was trolling the chat room, and he was like, he's not tired, he's drunk.
And then a couple people were like, no, he's really tired.
But a lot of people started jumping in and be like, that guy's so drunk.
And what I realized is there's one of two options, because I did this later in the night.
I was bored, and so I started trolling the chat room myself.
It was during Harrison Smith's part, and I was like, this guy is so boring!
And a bunch of accounts started...
Chiming in like, yeah, this guy is boring.
What is he doing?
Alex is trying to put us to sleep.
And I got a lot of people to jump on board with the fuck this guy, he's so boring.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And the same thing happened when Far Out was doing the this guy is drunk shit.
It made me realize one of two things.
One is people listening, there's a lot of people who are watching it in the same spirit that we're watching.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And are just waiting for a leader to jump in and be like, yeah, let's get on board with that guy.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Or...
A lot of the people are bots, and they're just mirroring whatever the comments are.
Just reiterating or using the idea and making simple sentences based on it in the chat.
There could be chat bots in there.
jordan holmes
Or they could just be Infowars listeners who are naturally going to follow literally any leader.
dan friesen
See, that's the other thing I thought about, and it's like, either everyone is so fucking malleable, or it's...
You know, because a lot of the sentences weren't great.
It was the sort of thing that I could see definitely.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but that is not a disqualifier for a regular InfoWars listener.
dan friesen
That's why I'm confused.
I don't know.
The other thing that was crazy was it's like people engaging with like, he's drunk.
No, he's not.
Like a little bit of that.
And then one guy just writing an essay about Gnosticism.
Just like, okay, this guy's got an agenda.
jordan holmes
That guy's real.
That guy's definitely real.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
It's like, oh, Project Camelot isn't doing a stream tonight.
Better go over to this one.
Write about Gnosticism.
So at this point, Alex is in such a bad headspace that he declares that the end times are upon us.
jordan holmes
Oh, already?
alex jones
You're right.
Again?
We're entering the end times.
jordan holmes
I thought we had already entered the end times.
alex jones
I was like, oh, shut up.
It's a thousand years off.
jordan holmes
Didn't Obama bring in the end times?
alex jones
I'm realizing I think we're beginning to enter the end times where if God does intervene, even the elect would be deceived.
I totally...
That's why I've told God, like, I'm not perfect.
I have a lot of problems.
Just please, just don't let them get me.
I don't want to be with them.
Please.
That's all I fear.
dan friesen
That's your choice, Alex.
unidentified
Well, I don't think you have anything to fear.
I mean, my son and I are saved, and I have a daughter that lives...
jordan holmes
My son and I are saved?
unidentified
...that is not...
dan friesen
Saved.
jordan holmes
Oh, saved.
unidentified
And I love her husband, but he's very much a...
You know, he looks like a strapping...
A Scottish guy, because he is, but he's like a soy boy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
And she's an atheist.
And I'm not going to be the one to reach her, but, you know, I've got dozens of people praying for her, because I really believe what's happening in Israel.
alex jones
I was about to say, can you feel, like, the evil entering the world?
Like, good's there, too.
But, like, the evil is just, it's intensifying.
jordan holmes
Like your son-in-law.
Your son-in-law is evil.
dan friesen
Dirty soy boy.
So that, I don't know if we ever really talked about it.
jordan holmes
What is a soy boy?
dan friesen
Paul Joseph Watson made a video a couple months back where he was misusing science to try and claim that soy is super feminizing and all this stuff.
So he drew a bunch of conclusions about people are drinking soy lattes.
All these liberals are drinking soy lattes.
That's why they're such feminized dorks.
Or whatever.
And it just became a meme on the internet.
And it probably actually...
He probably ripped it off of some message board.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say.
dan friesen
But he made a video about it.
And then it's become a thing where they kind of throw it around as an insult.
The thing is, it's not as fun as Cuck to say.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
So they're going to get to keep it.
It's never going to...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm never going to say soy boy.
dan friesen
No one's going to throw soy boy back at them.
Yeah, it's gross.
So they get to just have it, and it's going to linger in the alt-right world for a long time.
jordan holmes
Sadly.
dan friesen
Because Cuck we reclaimed as like a...
jordan holmes
Cuck is hilarious.
dan friesen
It's fun to say.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the other thing is, that boring intern whose name I can't remember...
A couple times they played a video of him going out to the University of Texas at Austin.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
His name is Soy C. Cuckboy.
dan friesen
Right.
He goes out and he claims he's trying to get political discourse going or whatever, but he runs into two people with signs and they just block him.
jordan holmes
Nah, dude.
dan friesen
He ends up trying to walk around them, and they just block his path.
jordan holmes
Yeah, nah, dude.
dan friesen
They block his path with the sign, and then he's like, you're assaulting me!
jordan holmes
Nah, dude.
dan friesen
So they keep playing it as InfoWars reporter is assaulted, and the only thing that's actually in the video is whoever the cameraman is literally pushes a woman.
That's the only thing that's actually in the video.
And it's like, what are you guys doing?
jordan holmes
You idiots.
dan friesen
But the reason I bring it up is...
When he's being blocked by a sign, he's like, look at this guy.
He looks like a soy boy.
And one of the other guys who's standing there is like, you know, that's really weird because a lot of Alex's products that he sells on your website have soy in them.
There's soy in those products.
And so this guy's response is like, oh no, that's a meme.
That's a meme.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
That's a shitty defense.
jordan holmes
That's his...
Oh boy.
dan friesen
You know that's a meme.
Like, oof.
We've reached a new level of incompetence with Alex's staff.
jordan holmes
You guys gotta figure this out.
dan friesen
Being out in the field and admitting, eh, that's not really something that we believe in.
We're just trying to make people mad.
You understand?
unidentified
You get it?
Yeah.
You get it?
Yeah.
We're just trying to provoke people.
jordan holmes
Again, all of Alex's shitty sub-hosts make the subtext text every time.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's a meme.
jordan holmes
They're so bad at it.
unidentified
It's a meme!
dan friesen
So anyway, this next caller gets us back to the other, so there's the, they aren't going to make him cry side, and then this is the other side, which is Alex wants your money.
And it's really bizarre because in this call, the caller literally offers to split Alex's legal fees.
unidentified
He's just like, no, could you please buy some?
Could you please buy some product?
dan friesen
Let's see what happens.
unidentified
Oh, God.
alex jones
Steven and Austin.
Steven and Austin, go ahead.
dan friesen
AJ, AJ, good evening.
jordan holmes
Because Stone Cold is here.
unidentified
I can tell the weight of the world is under shoulders, my friend.
I'm an old friend.
And God works in mysterious ways, my friend.
And that's why I'm calling tonight.
First off, you have a lot of friends that are with you and behind you, specifically folks that are self-made people, that own their own businesses, that do their own thing, and create jobs, etc., around this world.
alex jones
I know that.
I'm very honored and very humbled.
unidentified
Can't cry about it, though.
I'm one of them, man.
Gosh, it's been, shoot, you and I haven't talked in two-plus years.
We're not friends.
Number one, just remember that you do have a lot of support and a lot of friends behind you.
Number two, there's a lot of stuff you're working through with employee problems and EOC and all that crap and this and that, but I'll put my money where my mouth is.
I don't have the millions that Gary has.
dan friesen
However...
unidentified
I've got a fantastic labor law attorney, and if you ever need any help, I'll split the bill with you.
alex jones
Well, you're awesome.
No, it's not even that.
It's that the people would lie like that.
Like, people I've done nothing to but help.
Like, one of them, when they were sick, I let them on for like four months and still paid them and stuff.
It's like the weakest people, but we still can't be evil.
Like, the weakest people, you help them, and they're like vipers.
It's just like, why would you act like that?
Why would you lie like that?
It hurts your faith in humanity that people will do stuff like that.
unidentified
Sure it does.
Sure it does.
And McBreen's got my contact information, so you can talk to him, and if we want to talk later, that's fine.
But I mean what I say.
alex jones
I hear you.
That's why we're doing donations, buy the products, but yeah.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
unidentified
Yep.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Once again, we get back to...
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't, don't, no, no.
Just buy shit.
Just buy shit.
I can launder the shit you buy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I can launder that.
I can't just take your money.
Do you not get the game yet?
dan friesen
This leads me to my next point, and that is that there was a much higher incidence of fortified supply commercials during the marathon than there ever is on his show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think there's a reason, and that is...
Fortified supplies being run illegally.
I don't know.
I'm not a lawyer.
jordan holmes
Also, I like that the guy is like, a lot of self-made people.
I make a lot of great jobs for a lot of people.
I have a labor attorney on retainer.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Because I make so many great jobs for people.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
It's crazy to me that they keep suing me.
dan friesen
I need one of the best.
jordan holmes
Look.
I am such a great job creator.
I have no idea why my employees hate me.
dan friesen
But you understand, I think the reason that Alex is freaked out is that he recognizes, I'm not gonna take these to court.
I'm gonna pay these people off.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He just knows he needs a certain amount, so he just wants to make as much as he can.
He's already budgeted out what these lawsuits are gonna cost him, I'm sure.
jordan holmes
I would hope so.
dan friesen
He doesn't want that to come into, like...
I don't want you to give me a lawyer.
I want your money.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I want this money.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
You understand me, you damn idiot?
You are offering to solve what is ostensibly the problem.
And to me, that means that's not the real problem.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
There's some other problem.
And I think it's just he wants money.
jordan holmes
I don't want to take this to court.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I will lose.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I did that shit.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
My head of HR pops.
Said I did that shit!
I want to pay these people to go away!
dan friesen
I have a lawyer who's just good enough to threaten the people who are suing me with exposing information about them to make the settlement lower than they probably deserve!
unidentified
That's it!
You understand?
That's the game I play!
That's it!
Yeah!
dan friesen
He's able to talk Hamdi Ulukaya into just, you know, dropping the lawsuit and making me do a public apology.
unidentified
I'll do that.
That's good enough.
I'll apologize.
jordan holmes
Ashley, you want an apology?
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Come on!
dan friesen
Yeah, that's what's going to end up happening, and he knows that.
It's not going to be a protracted lawsuit or anything like that.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
It's got to be something else.
I don't know exactly what it is, but that leads me to believe, like, these lawsuits...
Are fucking him up emotionally because he knows he's guilty.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that's what's driving the performance and the emotion and the feeling screwed and all that sort of stuff.
But it's not the financial piece.
I think he's just using like, okay, these people are suing me and YouTube is coming after me, in quotes.
Perfect opportunity for me to put on a marathon and raise a whole shitload of money.
Right.
jordan holmes
Regardless of whether or not that money comes from the people who are ostensibly giving it to me.
Hey, what's weird?
During this 34-hour marathon, we got one huge donation.
unidentified
One huge anonymous donation.
dan friesen
Also, taxes are due in a month.
jordan holmes
Crazy.
dan friesen
Also, that might be a part of it.
jordan holmes
Super weird how we got this one massive...
$100 million donation from an anonymous donor who's clearly an InfoWars listener.
dan friesen
Loves it.
Loves it.
Job creator.
jordan holmes
Through this business, I am running illegally.
dan friesen
So now, at this point, Alex decides to say some stuff he should not have said.
At this point, he gets into...
I can't imagine this not coming up in court, quite frankly.
He starts talking about Rob Jacobson.
In ways that...
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
He doesn't need to say these things.
jordan holmes
His lawyers should have told him to say nothing!
dan friesen
I would have advised him that.
jordan holmes
I love...
I want to be one of his lawyers.
That's the easiest job in the world.
Give good advice.
And then watch him not take it, and your fees go up.
dan friesen
Bill hours.
jordan holmes
It's so easy.
dan friesen
Alex, as your lawyer, shut up.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Cha-ching!
unidentified
Cha-ching!
jordan holmes
Hold on, let me, what, where did you just say?
Yeah, that's another billable hour.
Hold on.
dan friesen
Hold on, Rob Dew called Ashley Beckford a coon?
jordan holmes
Oh boy!
Hey, billable hours!
Come on now!
dan friesen
That literally is in her complaint.
Yeah, by the way.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
That's fucked up.
Anyway.
alex jones
My feelings are just hurt.
dan friesen
Aw.
alex jones
That the very, it's so satanic.
Like, I knew Rob Jacobson.
And I had him as a video editor, and I had a few other editors, and he was so homely and so alone, and no one ever treated him well.
He couldn't believe he got a paycheck, and he'd worked at all these free liberal things, and the Austin Music Channel hadn't gotten paid, and he was like, he was so mean, and I took him to Christmas, and I took him to Thanksgiving, and I was nice to him.
dan friesen
I took him to Christmas.
alex jones
I said, hey, come to Thanksgiving.
He doesn't have any family in town, no friends.
He's like, I don't want to go.
You like Trump.
I went, well, that's okay.
You don't have to work here if you don't like Trump.
I was like, oh, no, it's all right.
And then to have him lie like that and say all that, it's like defeating him, which we will do, is...
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
Like, I would walk around the office calling people anti-Semitic names.
dan friesen
Not in the complaint.
jordan holmes
No, he was just telling you that's what he would do.
alex jones
I don't need to call people names to feel powerful.
But they know what to say.
Whoever wrote that stuff for him...
They know what to say.
They know to invert, to misrepresent.
Like, I would sit there and say, oh, like, the things they say, like, I'll walk into the room and scream epithets at black people.
I mean, who believes that we wear Nazi shoes?
dan friesen
That's not in the complaint either.
jordan holmes
No, it sounds like he's just telling us what it is he's doing.
dan friesen
Well, the Nazi shoes thing is in the complaint, but he's taking it totally out of context for...
It's just another creating a straw man of the complaint.
Here in Ashley Beckford's EEOC complaint, Darren McBreen received two gifts of fitness shoes, one of which was laden with swastikas from a fan of Infowars and Donald Trump, which he proudly displayed to me.
And then in parentheses, let's create a hostile work environment.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He wore one of the pairs, and then in parentheses, it specifically states without the swastikas.
So Alex saying, you know, the claim is that we wear Nazi shoes.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He literally says right there, he wore the other pair, but showed me the swastika shoes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's fine.
They don't wear Nazi shoes.
They display them proudly in their offices.
dan friesen
Like your bronzed baby shoes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
To be fair, I think...
jordan holmes
Wait, I feel like that's worse.
I think I would rather have them wear the Nazi shoes, because then that's like a joke.
But if you hang them up in your fucking office, that's kind of like, look at those great Nazi shoes.
dan friesen
I'm very torn about it, because like...
jordan holmes
You know who sent those shoes?
dan friesen
Sandra Bullock.
I'm torn about it because on the one hand, if someone sent us Nazi shoes, I would be like, what the fuck?
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, no, that's waking up with a horse head in our beds.
unidentified
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
Imagine if we had such a fucked up audience that someone sent us shoes with swastikas on them.
jordan holmes
As a gift!
dan friesen
I would be blown away, and if I worked in a workplace, I'd be like, can you believe how fucked up this person is?
And I probably would show them to people, but then I'd burn them or something like that.
The fact that it's in a complaint leads me to believe that the presentation of it was very different.
jordan holmes
Was not, hey, for real, maybe we're the bad guys here.
We got swastika shoes.
dan friesen
Right.
It should be some sort of an indication that maybe we're not encouraging the best out of people.
So anyway, that's just another instance of him creating straw man arguments about The claims.
He's just saying that the claims are different than they are, which again leads me to believe that the real claims or the reality is that the claims are fairly accurate.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
That's the kind of sense I get.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
alex jones
And we do all this.
It doesn't hurt me that I'm being attacked.
It hurts me that they've got people so given over to the lie that they believe it.
Because that's the thing.
They believe it.
They believe I'm Hitler.
jordan holmes
I don't think...
alex jones
Not George Soros, that worked for Hitler.
They believe someone who is fighting the Hitler energy.
Someone that argued and debated...
dan friesen
Poorly.
alex jones
David Duke.
In the filing, I love David Duke, and I'm with him!
Even though the whole thing is me debating him, and Rob wanted to come on and debate him.
It doesn't matter.
It's like...
dan friesen
So, the claim doesn't say that he likes David Duke.
They just point out that...
He had an unprecedented amount of time for an interview with Alex.
jordan holmes
And when we listened back to that, seemed like he loved David Duke.
dan friesen
Seemed like he wanted to appear to not, but was failing.
jordan holmes
He was really liking him.
dan friesen
They were agreeing on a lot of stuff.
It seemed like they just had semantic differences.
About their beliefs.
And in Rob Jacobson's complaint, it references the David Duke interview because David Duke called him that Jewish individual.
Right.
And then Rob Dew and Owen Schroyer consistently called him the Jewish individual and the resident Jew and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
That's not great.
dan friesen
Well, it's at least harassment.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would say so.
dan friesen
But it's a yeasty environment.
jordan holmes
That's very anti-Semitic.
dan friesen
Anyway, the thing is, Alex again is making a straw man saying that in the complaint, I love David Duke.
That's not in there.
alex jones
The Satanism.
The inversion.
Because they never half-flip it.
They always total-flip it.
We're fighting Satanism.
We're fighting Nazism.
And so we are with Satanism.
We are with Nazism.
And you look at someone whose soul has been overrun, and you go, oh, my God.
It's like a big tentacle.
Reach in and grab somebody you knew and just took them and went into hell.
And they're gone.
And then you're not even worried about the lie they said about you.
You're thinking about them.
Like, what dimension do they hang in?
Like, skin deep or under the skin in that movie where...
Scarlett Johansson actually rode out in Scotland in the dead industrial zones, and this beautiful woman was there, and the men actually got in with all these HD cameras, and she'd taken her to these big, dark mansions where they had a big pool of water, and the men would get naked and walk in.
jordan holmes
It wasn't real.
alex jones
And in the cut, the alien sucks their blood out and everything in the fiction, but real men went to be killed ritualistically.
They went that far in the movie to be with her.
jordan holmes
It was a movie.
unidentified
Fish.
The angler fish.
alex jones
Like that light.
That beautiful woman was the light.
And they could get men into a mansion to walk into pools of water.
Black pools.
And it's like, you know, it's like, what the hell?
And you realize Hollywood and power is like that black pool.
And Scarlett Johansson pulls up and goes, you're finally going to be somebody.
Destroy Alex Jones.
Say he did these things.
dan friesen
Oh, I see.
jordan holmes
Was that the metaphor?
alex jones
So you lose a little...
You're like, I remember being at Thanksgiving going, here's some turkey.
dan friesen
What?
alex jones
And like...
And then you see the addled response.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
That makes sense.
alex jones
Oh, on a computer there were bodybuilders.
It was gay grooming.
So that becomes Jones is having gay grooming and raping women because a woman hugged him.
It's so satanic.
jordan holmes
Also, the subtle...
She hugged me.
She hugged me.
No, a woman hugged him.
dan friesen
It's the issue of agency that he's flipping.
So he's being satanic because he's flipping things.
jordan holmes
Pretty much.
dan friesen
I don't fucking care.
jordan holmes
He's not even folding them over.
He's flipping them a hundred degrees.
dan friesen
That metaphor is exhausting.
Like, when I heard that, I was like, I...
I...
I...
I mean...
Empathy is tough at this point for him, but there are points in the middle of that telling of a Scarlett Johansson movie's plot pretending it's real, I worry for him.
There's still a part of me that's like, I am deeply concerned about what's going on in that head.
unidentified
It sounds like he really...
Doesn't know that all of his listeners are Nazis?
dan friesen
Yeah, or at least the diehard ones.
Let's get to this next clip, because that's actually super relevant to this.
At the beginning of this clip, he seems delusional.
unidentified
At the end of it, he is delusional.
alex jones
I don't feel, like, powerful.
Like, oh, I'm going to beat Michael Jackson's lawyer.
You know, that they've hired the Democrats or...
dan friesen
The Democrats.
alex jones
Like, every time I defeat them, it's not like a power trip.
dan friesen
So that's the delusional piece.
I think he thinks he...
I keep beating the globalists.
Like, you have narrowly avoided people following through with lawsuits.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you've made multiple public apologies and basically just...
I mean, you are the one who's settling.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
No, but he's outsmarting them.
dan friesen
Right.
He's like, oh yeah, I beat the globalists.
You didn't.
You lost a lawsuit.
jordan holmes
No, he apologized.
But did he apologize?
dan friesen
Strictly speaking, he also lost the court custody case with his wife.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he won it because he didn't want those kids.
dan friesen
Well, no, he's also won it because he apparently has been dragging it out since then with injunctions and shit like that.
jordan holmes
Right, because he's too busy winning.
dan friesen
Right.
It's not even...
And, first of all, the globalists aren't real.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
He's not beating the globalists.
He's losing lawsuits to people he's slandered and mistreated.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But then narrowly getting through, like, the Duke boys.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Getting out of a pickle.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's like beating them.
dan friesen
But he thinks, I just keep beating these people.
unidentified
I'm so fucking good at this.
dan friesen
And that, that again is like, that's a troubling way to look at reality.
But anyway, the Nazi thing is going to come back.
alex jones
It's like, God, why didn't they join me?
And they just go like, we'll beat him.
We'll beat him.
We'll beat him.
Oh, yes.
Over and over.
But the listeners, the activists, they just keep spreading the word and supporting us.
And so they can't have what they want over and over and over and over and over again.
And I'm exhausted.
I'm like, let them win.
dan friesen
Third time he said he wants to quit.
alex jones
Let me roll over like a dead whale.
It's kind of like the South African farmers that produce 70%.
There's 10 million plus people in South Africa.
You can look it up.
It's like 18 million.
Let's look up the population.
There's 40,000 farms, maybe 130,000 people on them.
Little farms, three or four people on each one.
They leave.
unidentified
Half of that country will starve to death.
alex jones
But under communist rule, they won't even know.
The Marxist defense minister says they're going to kill all whites.
dan friesen
They didn't.
alex jones
We covered it today.
I love those Africans.
But under racial brainwashing, under true Nazi activity, they don't even know.
And they just want to kill.
And that's what freaks me out.
dan friesen
I could see being freaked out by that if that were real.
So, in South Africa, the South African Parliament, they voted 241 to 83 to confiscate some white-owned land without compensation.
That happened recently.
jordan holmes
Awesome.
dan friesen
White South Africans are 8.25% of the population and own approximately 72% of the farmland, and the reason for this 100% traces back to the days of colonization and apartheid.
In the aftermath of the end of apartheid, land was never distributed fairly, so the issue has lingered, as the white minority still claims possession of about three-quarters of the usable land in South Africa, and therefore controls...
jordan holmes
Well, they own it, Dan.
dan friesen
They have a massive power imbalance.
jordan holmes
That's how that works?
Sure!
They stole it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and basically...
jordan holmes
But they stole it, and now it's finders keepers.
dan friesen
Even this Marxist guy that Alex is railing about was like, we're not talking about slaughtering white people.
But here's where the quote goes bad.
At least not yet.
jordan holmes
See, I don't understand why you thought that went bad.
dan friesen
It's bad optics.
jordan holmes
I feel like that was the right thing to say.
dan friesen
It's bad optics.
But what it is is a situation...
jordan holmes
I love it.
That's funny, and also...
I hope he means it.
dan friesen
I didn't hear it said, so it could have been in jest.
I don't know.
But be that as it may, like what the situation we're looking at now is just people trying to make right what wasn't made right at the end of apartheid.
Because control of the land is power.
And even though the formal system of apartheid went away, you live in a place where people can't possibly live equitable lives if three-quarters of the land is owned by less than 8% of the people.
jordan holmes
Just because it's not state-sponsored apartheid doesn't mean it's still not economic apartheid.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
So, ironically...
A lot of the Afrikaners and the people who are against this ruling by Parliament think that it's a racist attack on white people have threatened to go to the UN about it, which is really funny considering everything.
Also, the opponents of this move have claimed that Zimbabwe did a similar thing back in the 2000s, and it led to massive famines, but most experts would be quick to point out that the reason that happened was the rampant corruption of Robert Mugabe.
jordan holmes
Oh, wait, he might have had something to do with it?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Maybe one of modern history's great villains has more to do with that than...
jordan holmes
Than the policies.
Than the policy choices he's made.
More the...
dan friesen
The corruption aspect.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Not the land redistribution into a more equitable state.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But the reason that I said that this relates to Nazis is that I told you that in Alex Jones' first section, the 11-4 section during the day, he had Simon Roche, the Swithlander, on.
He was on to promote a fundraiser, like a GoFundMe.
Of course, his cause would not be allowed on any mainstream one, so he's on something called Freestarter.
And so I went to check on it periodically throughout the day.
jordan holmes
Freestarter?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think that it's just one of those things where it's like, do you have a distasteful cause?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We'll let you raise money for it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So he's on there, and I went and checked while he was on the show.
They had raised $85.
And so I wanted to check back later.
A little bit later in the night, maybe like six, seven hours later, I checked back and they were at like $400 or so.
But I was looking through it and one of them was an anonymous donation for $100.
And the comment in it was just the 14 words of white supremacy.
We must ensure the future of white children, blah, blah, blah.
Just verbatim.
And like, yep, you guys get it.
You know what it's about.
So I tweeted out that picture, and when I woke up in the morning, I went back to check to see how their fundraiser was doing, and that comment had been erased.
jordan holmes
Oh!
dan friesen
But I have a screenshot of it.
jordan holmes
Hooray!
dan friesen
You know, the cause that's being pushed, it's clearly very popular among white nationalists, white supremacists, and Alex is clearly helping that cause right along.
It's really weird.
Really weird.
Also, the farmer murder stuff, as we went over on a recent show, is wildly overblown and miscontextualized.
jordan holmes
It's fascinating.
There would almost be something to talk about if they would admit they're taking our land back.
You know what I'm saying?
Instead of them saying, oh, this is racist against white people and they're taking our land, if they were like...
They're taking our land back.
Then you would have a conversation of like, well, is that a good way of doing things?
There's a conversation to have there.
Is that the best way to exchange things economically?
Not just from a moral standpoint, but just from a general stability standpoint.
No, true.
Because as Mugabe did do that, now mainly it was rampant, horrific corruption, but it's possible that that policy decision...
Did have something to do with it.
So maybe let's have a conversation about the best way to take your land back.
Because you stole it, motherfuckers.
Let's not have a conversation about how you think we're just stealing your land.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
I agree.
jordan holmes
It's a peaceful transition of power as opposed to we're just taking it, you know?
dan friesen
Right, right.
And it is...
It's bringing things to the state that they should have been in.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Were a crime not committed long ago.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's tough.
jordan holmes
It's like if you stole a very valuable painting, and then whenever the museum was like, hey, we're going to take it back.
dan friesen
Do you want my art?
jordan holmes
You were like, you're stealing my art!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
It's along those lines.
So I agree with you.
And that should be some signal, I think, that the issue is far more complicated than even our analysis of it.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
Morally, it is right to take their land.
jordan holmes
Like, practically, how you do that is a very different conversation.
dan friesen
Right, right.
And our analysis of it is more real than Alex's.
And we're even lacking We're two assholes who have yet to run a single country, let alone multiple countries.
It's true.
One day.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Hopefully soon.
dan friesen
There's a video that Alex Jones plays.
jordan holmes
What country would you like to run?
dan friesen
I'm out.
I don't want to run a country.
jordan holmes
You're out?
dan friesen
Yeah, too big.
jordan holmes
Bolivia.
Bolivia's the right size for me.
dan friesen
So...
jordan holmes
I feel like I could turn it around, Dan.
dan friesen
I'm going to go to Burkina Faso so I could be king of Ouagadougou.
jordan holmes
Ooh.
dan friesen
Anyway.
I knew you were going to go there.
There's an ad that Alex plays a lot where it's this guy named Frank that calls in.
And he's like, Alex, I am sick and tired of you complaining all the time about how people are trying to shut you down.
And then Alex is like, Frank, I'm going to stop you right there!
And he starts screaming at Frank, Frank, I need your help, Frank!
That sort of shit.
And so it's an ad, like it's a commercial that he plays about what happens when his audience doesn't take him seriously that he's being shut down.
And so the entire night in the Infowars chat, everyone was calling each other Frank.
Like it was a meme where everyone's like, oh, this guy's speaking Frank.
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
Some soy boys.
dan friesen
Right.
That's the context you need for this next clip, which is another caller later in the broadcast.
alex jones
So, yeah, I'm really proud of Super Blue.
Thanks for the plug.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, it's about midnight where I'm at, and I'm wondering how Frank's going tonight.
I need your help, Frank!
alex jones
Well, no, he calls up and goes, I'm sick of hearing you bitching about how you're being shut down.
Well, if I could plug one time...
dan friesen
Real quick, I'm going to scroll this back a tiny bit, because even I misrepresented what the actual commercial is saying.
He's not saying, I'm tired of you complaining all the time.
He says, I'm tired of you bragging all the time.
Because they're like, I'm the tip of the spear kind of stuff.
I'm super important.
That's even a misrepresentation.
I apologize that I slipped up.
Anyway.
alex jones
Well, if I could plug one time...
I'm being shut down.
Everybody went and bought products or supported us.
dan friesen
Booze burps.
alex jones
Then I wouldn't be so upset.
And I love Frank.
You know, he's an interesting fella.
He calls in and says, oh, you want to fight?
I'll kick your ass and all this other stuff.
You probably can't, Frank.
I don't care if you can anymore.
The point is, is that I'm just trying to restore stuff.
And Frank's bitching that I'm saying I'm under attack.
What do I do?
Just not...
Because I have to say I'm under attack to get funding.
I really am under attack.
Have people not seen?
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
I have to say it, and this time I am.
dan friesen
Or at least I have the appearance that I'm under attack now.
Yeah, that sentence is fucked up.
jordan holmes
Giving up the game, man.
dan friesen
I have to say I'm under attack to get funding.
alex jones
And I am under attack.
dan friesen
Like, that's him remembering, oh shit.
Oh shit.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, this next clip.
jordan holmes
Not good at this.
dan friesen
Alex is particularly pissed off that he's being sued for, like, racial harassment and unhealthy work environment about that stuff because he's fucking, he hires everybody, man.
And you know what?
Sometimes that even surprises liberals.
alex jones
Like, leftist media comes here.
We don't let them in anymore.
They go, wow, there's all these minorities and women.
I don't care what color you are, or you're a man or woman.
You do a good job.
You're a nice person.
You got the job.
Just like I go to a restaurant and listen to your music if you're black, white, old, young.
Doesn't matter to me.
jordan holmes
Not a good analogy.
dan friesen
If that's true, it's worse.
Because everyone in front of the camera is a white dude.
If he does have a completely diverse staff that surprises leftist media that comes and shows up, that means he's intentionally holding some people down.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
Which is not good.
jordan holmes
I will hire anyone to work in my accounting department.
I don't know how that shit works.
dan friesen
That cannot be the face of the operation.
jordan holmes
I will hire anyone to...
Not on camera.
Not on camera.
Do you realize all of our listeners are Nazis, dude?
We can't allow people like that on camera.
dan friesen
Now, I admit...
I didn't watch the entire marathon.
jordan holmes
Yes, I'm sorry.
dan friesen
And I did take a slam dunk break for a little while.
Go Chapman.
Oh yeah, he's great.
I would put it at 16 hours of it that I watched fully.
jordan holmes
That's too much.
dan friesen
It's way too much.
That Indian dude who's running for Congress.
jordan holmes
Did he win?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't think it's happened yet.
He's legitimately the only non-white dude.
I saw in the entire time.
Except when Alex was playing videos of Ashley Beckford shooting a gun.
That's the only...
I admit, I might have missed somebody.
Don't think I did.
jordan holmes
They keep all of their diverse people on the other 18 hours that you didn't watch, Dan.
Didn't you see that?
That was the plan the whole time.
dan friesen
David Knight was chock-a-block with all these ethnic and gender minorities.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
Because I'm watching it, and I'm like, alright.
South African Sweetlander.
Guy who runs Gab.
Anthony Cumia.
Gerald Salenti.
Jerome Corsi.
Owen Schroyer.
This Jacob Engels guy.
Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
PJ Dubs.
dan friesen
Boring intern.
PJW.
Tommy Robinson.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Other boring intern.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Like, what are you doing?
unidentified
These are all white dudes.
jordan holmes
Tommy Davidson would go on your show.
dan friesen
You'd sell a pezone or two.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that part to me is like, I don't believe Alex, but if he is telling the truth, that's worse.
That's a very bizarre position to be in.
Like, if you are this much of an open, like, I'll hire anybody, I don't give a shit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That means, oof.
Anyway, we got one more clip here, and it should drive home the fact that Alex just really wants your fucking money.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
He's sick and tired of this shit.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And after this, he just plays a video and disappears.
alex jones
I appreciate you, and I want to be clear.
I don't just say this.
It's real.
I feel people check my hand on the street.
A lady tried to, like, pay for my coffee at the gas station at, like, 830 driving down here.
She's like, oh, your gas, you paid for it.
The coffee's on me.
And I'm like, I mean, that is...
Why?
Because I want us all to win and work together?
I mean, I don't deserve you buying coffee.
But I'll tell you this.
If you want to fund the operation, if you want to buy the products, if you want to donate, They're trying to shut us down.
jordan holmes
What does that even mean?
dan friesen
I don't deserve for you to buy me a coffee, but just fucking buy a product.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Look, I don't want you to pay for half of my legal fees.
Just buy something on a fucking website.
Yeah, that sounds right.
jordan holmes
I am rich, but my business is in trouble.
unidentified
I think more of it is like, I don't want to barter.
dan friesen
Money talks, bullshit walks.
Buy a product.
It's so sad.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's so sad.
jordan holmes
That's pathetic.
dan friesen
But legitimately, this was the only stretch of the show that was worth watching at all.
The rest of it was predictable ads all over the place and just so damn boring.
But anyway, that brings us to the end of this.
Alex Jones, if these people, the Ashley Beckfords and the Rob Jacobson, if they keep up this lawsuit, you're in real trouble.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think if they don't settle, you are in trouble.
Man, it would be fun if a bunch of other people come out.
I'd really like to hear about what other people's experiences were like.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would like to hear that as well.
dan friesen
Like Anthony Gucciardi, I bet he has some really negative things to say about Alex.
jordan holmes
I wonder how Jakari's doing.
dan friesen
I bet Jakari's probably got some stories to tell.
I don't know.
Anyway, this has been fun, Jordan.
jordan holmes
This has been fun.
dan friesen
If you want to find more of the show, folks, you can at knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
You can go to at knowledge underscore fight and follow us on Twitter.
dan friesen
Yes, you can.
jordan holmes
You can go to Facebook.
You can go to iTunes.
You can download.
You can leave a review.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
We got the special Facebook group if you want to join that.
dan friesen
Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
jordan holmes
You'll never be able to find it unless you directly contact us.
dan friesen
People are finding it.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm pretty thrilled with it.
Also, I've made a big decision.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
With the Avengers initiative.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I'm not going to make people a really long sentence.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm going to do something that I think they'll like even more.
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Should I spoil it now?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I didn't come up with any of this.
dan friesen
Should I tease this now or wait?
jordan holmes
Tease it.
dan friesen
Okay.
I'm just going to tell people what I'm going to do.
jordan holmes
Actually, you know what?
Because the last time you teased it, you just decided not to do it.
dan friesen
Eh, not really.
No, it's not that.
I realized what I could do is I could make a super long, ridiculous soundbite of Alex Jones saying super fucked up things and play it for people.
Or what I could do, which I've decided to do, is create a 16 seed bracket of fucked up things Alex Jones has said.
And we're going to do a March Madness style bracket.
jordan holmes
Okay.
To compete over what's the most fucked up thing.
dan friesen
What's the most fucked up.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And people can vote once we start doing this, probably on the next episode.
jordan holmes
The weirdest thing.
dan friesen
We'll start pretty soon, and then the voting will be in the Facebook group.
jordan holmes
In the Facebook group.
dan friesen
Go home and tell your mother your brother.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So that's what I've decided.
I think people will like that more.
If any of you are mad at that decision, I might have to rethink this.
I won't renege on a really long soundbite if this is not.
Something people like, but I think people will like it.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Everyone loves a bracket.
jordan holmes
Everybody loves a bracket.
dan friesen
It's March.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And Alex is mad.
jordan holmes
It's thematically correct.
dan friesen
Yep.
Anyway, guys, thank you so much for listening.
Jordan, you want to pick a dick?
Pick a dick.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with every white person decrying racism in South Africa.
dan friesen
Amen.
jordan holmes
Except for the right...
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the earth.
dan friesen
Wait, sorry.
I clicked too soon.
jordan holmes
I mean, except for the ones who are decrying actual racism.
I'm talking about the white people who are like, you're being racist towards white people.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
They can go fuck themselves.
dan friesen
Amen.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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