Today, Dan and Jordan complete their coverage of Alex Jones' terrible "documentary" Endgame. It's been a long and difficult road, but thankfully, the home stretch includes some demonstrable lies about carbon taxes and an accidental exploration of San Francisco cyberpunk culture.
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| Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| The voice you will hear shortly is my co-host and dear friend Jordan. | ||
| This is our final, our fifth and final installment in our ongoing coverage of Alex Jones' very, very stupid, sophomoric, amateurish, I could come up with a number of other not very complimentary words to describe it. | ||
| Documentary? | ||
| It's called Endgame and it sucks. | ||
| This is the end. | ||
| This is the final chunk. | ||
| And you may note that at this point, Jordan and I are a little buzzed. | ||
| We're a little fed up with the bullshit. | ||
| Just tired. | ||
| There's an endurance aspect that comes into this when you're seven hours into stopping and starting a very bad documentary to point out, oh, this isn't true. | ||
| Also, this isn't true. | ||
| It weighs on you. | ||
| And you may sense that a little bit here in this final installment. | ||
| But there's a lot of good stuff to look forward to. | ||
| There's a couple of my favorite things, certainly, that we run into. | ||
| And without giving anything away, the final shot of this documentary is, in hindsight, an incredibly funny piece of history. | ||
| Where Alex Jones... | ||
| I don't want to give it away. | ||
| Anyway, I hope you guys enjoy this thrilling... | ||
| Conclusion to our coverage of Alex Jones and Endgame. | ||
| Oh, also, I'm not going to come back at the end of the episode because the episode has a natural end. | ||
| I don't know if we give any plugs at the end, so you can check us out at knowledgefight.com, knowledge underscore fight on Twitter. | ||
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| You can find us. | ||
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| You know, just mix it up with the other policy wonks out there. | ||
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| We're on iTunes. | ||
| Anyway, thank you all so much. | ||
| Thanks to everyone who made this possible. | ||
| And I apologize that there's still two more hours left of this for you to listen to. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Enjoy. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| So he's kind of worried about the ecosystem more than he is about humanity. | ||
| Especially about how your feelings are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck your feelings. | ||
| Who am I? | ||
| Ben Shapiro. | ||
| Fuck your feelings. | ||
| Fuck your feelings, bro. | ||
| I'm Jersey Shore Ben Shapiro. | ||
| How you doing? | ||
| Are you going alright? | ||
| Doing good. | ||
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We're on our night here, the money bomb. | |
| I don't even know. | ||
| Just trying to make him look crazy. | ||
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China was able to turn the corner and become the leading world super power. | |
| We got a quote! | ||
| We got a quote, watch! | ||
| It's just another Eric Bianca quote. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So he probably said it, but who gives a shit? | ||
| That's also slightly out of context. | ||
| The eugenics movement has now shaken off much of its Nazi baggage. | ||
| And is using the legitimate concern about the environment. | ||
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Pretty sure everybody still thinks Nazi when you hear eugenics. | |
| Most people don't like your drinks. | ||
| Everyone wants to breathe clean air and have good water. | ||
| But the controllers of the environmental movement have done nothing but co-op people's concerns and parlay it into support for global policies that further destabilize the third world's Okay. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Phony environmental and conservation groups are now the biggest private landowners in the world. | ||
| They... | ||
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He... | |
| Flashes up on screen here, the Sierra Club and the Nature Conservancy, while he's saying that phony conservation groups are the largest private landowners in the world. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Funny. | ||
| Funny. | ||
| Because that's not true. | ||
| John Malone, the owner of Charter Communications, owns 2.2 million acres, coming in at number one in terms of the private landowners in the United States. | ||
| That's the number one. | ||
| Number one. | ||
| In private landowners. | ||
| Is the guy from Charter. | ||
| Charter Communications. | ||
| Like I needed another reason to want the guy from Charter to die. | ||
| My boy Ted Turner coming in at number two with 2.1 billion acres of land. | ||
| What is he doing? | ||
| He has a lot of bison. | ||
| He needs that land. | ||
| Why is it that it's cable companies? | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| Well, Ted Turner got kicked out of that in the 90s. | ||
| Still. | ||
| Still Turner. | ||
| These conservation groups that are listed aren't even in the top 100 of the private... | ||
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Oh, yeah? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, who did I guess? | ||
| Are you saying it's billionaires? | ||
| Are you saying it's all billionaires? | ||
| When you look at the land available in the United States, there's approximately 1.9 billion acres of usable land in the lower 48 states. | ||
| Of that, 139 million of those acres are considered to be developed urban or rural residential land. | ||
| 349 million acres are used for cropland. | ||
| 747 million acres are considered forests. | ||
| 788 million are range or pasture land where animals can graze. | ||
| Alex cites an article here that asserts that Nature Conservancy there manages 7 million preserved acres and owns 2 million. | ||
| But that does not tell the whole story. | ||
| For instance, 15,500 of the acres that they own are part of Palmaia Atoll, a series of acres and lagoons 1,000 miles south of Hawaii. | ||
| It doesn't really seem like what he's talking about in terms of controlling America. | ||
| You own something out in the water. | ||
| You own reef land that you're trying to save. | ||
| Yeah, it's in the middle of nowhere. | ||
| It's an atoll. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Atolls are pretty sweet. | ||
| I would want to control that at all. | ||
| It doesn't really seem like what he's talking about. | ||
| But also they bought this thing called the Baca Ranch. | ||
| 100,000 of the acres that they own are that, and they just bought that to finish up the land that was required for the Great Sand Dunes National Park. | ||
| Plus, they have offices in 30 different countries, so there's no reason to think that all the land that they own or conserve are in the United States. | ||
| What there really is reason to think is... | ||
| That they are in the job of conserving land. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's kind of what they do. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I think I said that John Malone and Ted Turner had billions of acres. | ||
| You did say. | ||
| They're in the millions. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| I had to catch myself there. | ||
| So when you look at the... | ||
| Freak me out for a second when you started talking about the millions and then I was like, they have billions of acres? | ||
| Millions. | ||
| It's still a fucking ton. | ||
| What the shit? | ||
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It's still way too much. | |
| No, it's a shit ton, but it's... | ||
| It's scarier if it's billions. | ||
| I don't even know how big an acre is, let alone how big a billion of them is. | ||
| Acres by yay. | ||
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By yay? | |
| By yay? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So when you look at the question... | ||
| That's my favorite response to Eddie. | ||
| How big is that? | ||
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By yay. | |
| When you take it outside of America and you go into private landowners in the world... | ||
| Oh yeah, no, we're fucked. | ||
| It becomes a really interesting thing because Alex is even more wrong. | ||
| Yeah, Saudi Arabia is owned by a guy named Kevin. | ||
| King Abdullah. | ||
| King Kevin. | ||
| He comes in at number two with 547 million acres that he owns. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Number one, the Queen of England, coming in at 6.6 billion acres. | ||
| Way far above everybody else. | ||
| Are we sure that's still okay? | ||
| Because the monarch of England retains the royal title over the entire British Commonwealth. | ||
| So she technically owns the entirety of all British lands. | ||
| I still feel like that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's the same thing with talking about Edward VIII technically being the king of the Roman or the British church. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Britain. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I get what you're doing. | ||
| Shape it up with his formalities. | ||
| I totally get it. | ||
| You gotta get her name off that shit. | ||
| You gotta get her off the lease. | ||
| Just get it off the... | ||
| Don't leave it on there. | ||
| Yeah, we all know it's symbolic. | ||
| We all know that now, but there's gonna be a time where maybe people don't. | ||
| Get her name off the lease. | ||
| The Pope is number three. | ||
| What if she's late on her bills? | ||
| Yeah, she might default. | ||
| The Pope is number three because he technically owns all land owned by the Catholic Church. | ||
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God damn it! | |
| Plus Vatican City. | ||
| So he comes in at about 177 million acres worldwide. | ||
| Past that, you just have a list of kings who have different countries that they own the entirety of. | ||
| And then you think about authoritarian countries like Russia and China. | ||
| Technically, the heads of state own all of the land that's there. | ||
| So all this stuff, these people... | ||
| So when you start to look at... | ||
| This doesn't work for America. | ||
| It doesn't work globally. | ||
| He's saying nothing, and he can't prove any of it. | ||
| What you really see when you start to talk... | ||
| About how much land these individual people own and how silly it is for them to own that land. | ||
| You start to realize, well, people can't really own land. | ||
| Like, who owns land? | ||
| What are you doing with it? | ||
| In Russia. | ||
| In Russia. | ||
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Right? | |
| You're Putin. | ||
| You own all of Russia. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not your land. | ||
| It's people's land. | ||
| What are you doing with it? | ||
| It's people's land. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why are we doing this? | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| For real, England. | ||
| Take the queen off the lease. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| And Canada, take her off the money. | ||
| Canada, leave her on the money. | ||
| She's cute there. | ||
| She actually technically owns all of Canada. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That can't be real. | ||
| It is. | ||
| They lobby government to take property away from local populations, only to develop it themselves later. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| When the U.S. military dumps millions of gallons of nerve gas on the east coast of the U.S., they don't say a word. | ||
| Do they? | ||
| No, apparently they put a map on the map. | ||
| We're not worried about chimeras. | ||
| How did we get to chimeras? | ||
| Pretty quick, huh? | ||
| How did we get to chimeras? | ||
| We were just at women are allowed to vote. | ||
| He's pissed off that these fake conservation groups aren't mad about chimeras being released into the wild. | ||
| He has legitimately no citation for chimeras being released into the wild. | ||
| Even for our show, with our history of harsh turns. | ||
| It's a bit much. | ||
| To go from, and let me, hold on, let me start at the beginning. | ||
| This is about Bilderberg? | ||
| At one point. | ||
| Then it got into about Texas roads. | ||
| No, because first it was about World War II, and then about Bilderberg. | ||
| No, but Bilderberg caused World War II. | ||
| Yeah, I guess so. | ||
| And then roads. | ||
| And then Rhodes. | ||
| Then China. | ||
| And then China. | ||
| Then population control. | ||
| And then... | ||
| Then I got mad. | ||
| Harsh turn into spider goats are real. | ||
| Well, they are. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| In a certain sense. | ||
| I get the sense within which they are real. | ||
| But all I'm saying is, I felt like we spent the good first hour and 25 minutes on the first two, Bilderberg and Creepy Rhodes. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| And now we're... | ||
| We're headed around the final corner. | ||
| We are. | ||
| We're right near the edge. | ||
| We're so close to home. | ||
| We're right there, and then all of a sudden he's like, yeah, and these conservationist groups don't even care about chimeras. | ||
| Being released into the wild, which I can't prove. | ||
| You can't just turn like that. | ||
| Oh, you can. | ||
| Dave, isn't your documentary about something? | ||
| I want to tell you something, Jordan. | ||
| What you're not taking into account is that Alex Jones is a fucking pro, and he's going to weave... | ||
| He's going... | ||
| He's going to weave this all together. | ||
| This is going to come together in the end. | ||
| Do you ever see a stand-up comedy set where you're like, what the fuck is this guy talking about? | ||
| And then ten minutes later you're like, this guy is brilliant. | ||
| He weaved it all together. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's what he's about to... | ||
| He's not going to do that. | ||
| I feel like that's not going to happen. | ||
| He's not going to do that. | ||
| Because I've seen other people try to do that far more often and fail miserably. | ||
| The end of this is so fucking funny to me. | ||
| I keep building it up. | ||
| It's going to be a disappointment, but I love the end of this documentary. | ||
| Well, by the speed at which we're going, we're going to see that end in two hours. | ||
| About two weeks. | ||
| Vandalizing the very genetic code of the planet. | ||
| And large environmental organizations do nothing. | ||
| The corporate elite of the planet intensified their push for a global taxation system. | ||
| With a year-long buildup to the live Earth hysteria held on July 7, 2007 on Seven Cups, world leaders announced that saving the Earth was the new organizing principle for humanity and hailed it as the planet's new religion. | ||
| First of all, worshipping the planet or nature is not a new religion in any way. | ||
| It goes back probably... | ||
| No, it's the newest. | ||
| Probably is the oldest. | ||
| So old, it's new. | ||
| Also, I'll never forget how disappointed I was when I was sitting in Greece watching this Live Earth concert in the middle of Athens. | ||
| And I was like, I just got done rocking to somebody. | ||
| I don't know who it was. | ||
| And UB40 comes out. | ||
| And I'm like, what? | ||
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UB40? | |
| Wait, what? | ||
| UB40. | ||
| UB40? | ||
| Of course, they opened with red, red wine. | ||
| I was like, fuck this. | ||
| UB40 came out. | ||
| Fuck this. | ||
| And then, when Metallica came out, I forgot to mention this. | ||
| Well, they were immediately followed by... | ||
| Shit, what's their... | ||
| Shit, the ones who did I'm Blue... | ||
| Eiffel 65? | ||
| Yeah, because it was Red Red Wine versus... | ||
| God damn it, that would have been so much better. | ||
| I'm so disappointed in my reference skills right now. | ||
| So Metallica came out. | ||
| Minus five points, you're right. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Metallica came out and James Hetfield, the lead singer, comes out. | ||
| And before he sings a fucking song... | ||
| Wait, UB40 is still on stage? | ||
| No, no, this is... | ||
| Because it went to another country. | ||
| It was in a bunch of countries. | ||
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Right. | |
| And so, like, UB40 did, like, three songs. | ||
| Just too many for UB40. | ||
| Fools Rush In, Red Red Wine, That Might Be It. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then they went to... | ||
| Those are the three songs I know of there. | ||
| I don't know if this is the order of it, but then the other thing I remember is Metallica. | ||
| And Metallica gets on, and before they can even play a note or do their song, James Hetfield is just like, Make some noise if you give a shit! | ||
| I always thought that was so, like... | ||
| Your heart's in the right place, Hetfield. | ||
| It's so fake rebellious. | ||
| Your heart is in the right place. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| This was during the whole Napster situation, so I don't know. | ||
| No, it was after that. | ||
| Limited. | ||
| Oh, I don't even remember. | ||
| I also remember... | ||
| AFI had a disappointing set. | ||
| That's all I remember. | ||
| AFI is a disappointing set. | ||
| But anyway, the idea... | ||
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Unless you're talking about the American Film Institute. | |
| A fire inside, I believe, is what it stands for. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Emo shit. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| That's what it stands for? | ||
| I'm not a fan of theirs, but I knew some people in junior high, high school. | ||
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Guys, give it up. | |
| Anyway, the Worship of Earth is not new. | ||
| No. | ||
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They claim that CO2, which plants breathe was killing the earth and that we must reduce the number of children we have to curtail our carbon footprint countries across | |
| It is a scientific fact. | ||
| That the sun is the main driver of planetary climate. | ||
| That's not a starting point. | ||
| No, and it's not a scientific fact. | ||
| It's a pretty large consensus that it's greenhouse gases and all that shit that is. | ||
| One of the reasons that he believes that there's this carbon tax shit going on and that all of it is a hoax is because he really misunderstands this. | ||
| There was an instance where a bunch of emails got hacked from the climate research unit. | ||
| Yeah, I remember that. | ||
| And they were all taken... | ||
| Everybody who hates climate science... | ||
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Climategate. | |
| Oh, Climategate. | ||
| Everything was super taken out of context. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| It was all very benign emails between co-workers. | ||
| Because science still says what science says. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, I mean, like, do you want to talk about that a little bit so I don't have to read this paragraph? | ||
| I feel like I've just been reading fucking paragraphs at you and I feel very guilty. | ||
| No, no, no, it's fine. | ||
| This was great. | ||
| This was great school. | ||
| No, if I remember it, because I remember my dad was, my dad and my older brother were all up in this business about how... | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| If you read these ClimateGate emails, it actually shows that they knew the whole time that we were actually in a cooling period, and all of these graphs are bullshit, and it's actually this graph that goes this direction that's a real graph, and the graphs that they've been hiding this whole time are bullshit. | ||
| And then, of course, six months later, everybody forgets about it, until you start to talk about it again, in which they're like, oh, you remember what ClimateGate? | ||
| That means nothing they ever said was real. | ||
| Climate, it's always been the same. | ||
| They took a bunch of it. | ||
| It's like the text messages with the FBI guy where it's like, hey, Trump's a fucking lunatic. | ||
| And they're like, well, that's obvious that everybody's trying to screw him over. | ||
| And it's like, no, Trump's a fucking lunatic. | ||
| Like, it's okay to say what is true. | ||
| The big email. | ||
| The big email, Jordan? | ||
| I don't even want to read. | ||
| It was an email from the climate research unit head, Phil Jones, where he said that he had used, quote, Mike's nature trick to hide the decline. | ||
| Hide the decline became a buzzword, as if this climate scientist were flippantly talking to his co-workers about cheating data. | ||
| The reality is what he was talking about in terms of hiding the decline was a reference to something that is a well-known part in the scientific community, the tree ring divergence problem. | ||
| As it turns out, for a long ways back where we have data for it, tree ring width runs pretty consistent paths with observable temperatures. | ||
| Around 1950, something diverged, and the data that's gathered from tree ring samples does not match with the documented temperatures that we know are the case from the times that we have those tree ring samples. | ||
| So, we're not entirely sure. | ||
| Why that's the case. | ||
| Phil was discussing using Mike's nature trick in order to present the data that he had gathered in a way that is completely consistent with scientific and statistical ethical practices. | ||
| Scientists are not sure why the tree ring data started to diverge from observable temperatures, but they hypothesize that it's due to a yet-to-be-discovered atmospheric variable that is probably in play, but was not before 1950. | ||
| Other scientists speculate that it could be due to the sensitivity of trees and may be a byproduct of changing seasonality that we are experiencing, or increased levels of aerosols in the air that are also causing global dimming. | ||
| Could also be vaccines. | ||
| It could be vaccines. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| So, the reality is, too, that... | ||
| The Kochs have invested about $50 million over the last 50 years to spread misinformation and sow doubt about climate change. | ||
| And that's not even including what ExxonMobil has spent. | ||
| The Carbon Brief found that 9 out of 10 of the most prolific writers who are climate change deniers have financial ties to ExxonMobil, including... | ||
| 9 out of the top 10 have financial ties directly to ExxonMobil. | ||
| It seems like you should have to... | ||
| Declare that. | ||
| Disclose that in a big manner. | ||
| There should be a disclaimer. | ||
| Sponsored post, guys. | ||
| Sponsored post. | ||
| But because they do it through shell companies and stuff like that, it's like, hey, we can sort of hide it. | ||
| Or through think tanks. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| He's not one of the top ten, but Alex's buddy, Lord Monkton, who's his climate change denier expert, he absolutely has ties to the ExxonMobil money. | ||
| He was the chief policy advisor for the Science and Policy Institute think tank operated by Frontiers of Freedom Foundation. | ||
| For years where data is available from 2002 to 2007, ExxonMobil gave that organization $1,037,000. | ||
| For what, I imagine? | ||
| Probably nothing. | ||
| Probably nothing. | ||
| Also, Lord Moncton's a crazy lunatic. | ||
| Just to support science. | ||
| They're just all about science. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Being supported. | ||
| ExxonMobil loves... | ||
| They just want the science supported, and they hate it whenever science goes unsupported. | ||
| And they fucking happen to just only... | ||
| And it just so happens that the science that goes unsupported is the science of made-up bullshit. | ||
| So they want to make sure that the science of made-up bullshit is supported. | ||
| And it just so happens that the made-up bullshit science that they want supported is, of course, supporting themselves. | ||
| It seems crazy. | ||
| Also... | ||
| But it's just a coincidence, I swear. | ||
| The sun being the main driver of climate change is very much... | ||
| Scientific fact. | ||
| It's very much addressed by climate scientists, if you want to look into any of it. | ||
| Nope, they've never heard of the sun. | ||
| That's why you can't trust them. | ||
| That's why you can't trust them. | ||
| They don't even know about the sun. | ||
| When I was six, I read 10,000 books about the sun. | ||
| They haven't even read one. | ||
| What? | ||
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It has been slowly increasing thermal output in the last hundred years, causing warming not just on Earth, but throughout the solar system. | |
| But the scientific facts and even the order of the planets didn't matter to one of the chief organizations. | ||
| Humanizers of Live Earth. | ||
| Are we getting back to DRock's? | ||
| David Mayer is a Rothschild, heir to the British arm of the Rothschild fortune, when we spoke to him. | ||
| When I called Rothschild on the Order of the Planets, he just laughed, thinking the audience wouldn't get it. | ||
| He continued to count on the population's ignorance and claimed that the global warming lobby has nothing to do with carbon taxes. | ||
| I guess he hadn't spoken with his good personal friend, Al Gore. | ||
| Global warming, the time for debate is over. | ||
| I think what you have to realize is that being environmentally sensitive and making money aren't mutually exclusive. | ||
| There's a lot of money to be made in addressing this issue. | ||
| But you guys are gobbling up all the world's concern to just simply line your pockets and make kids read your book in schools and do all this. | ||
| It's a business, just like you said, Rothschild. | ||
| It's not a business. | ||
| Do you think I make any money out of this? | ||
| It's the same thing your great-great-great-grand, your money-changing ancestors did. | ||
| Why would you leave that in? | ||
| And I'm calling you out, Red Shield. | ||
| We know it's a scam. | ||
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A pollution-based tax system. | |
| He didn't even leave the part in that he was trying to be. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| No! | ||
| I got you a moment was when he said the planet's in the wrong order, not you saying... | ||
| Fuck you and your money-changing ancestors. | ||
| He really did set up the clip wrong. | ||
| He set up the clip for him to... | ||
| We know what happens, which is that David Rothschild gets the Order of the Planets wrong. | ||
| You and I know that. | ||
| Our listeners know that. | ||
| He made a mistake. | ||
| Now, Alex sets this up to where you're like, oh, he's going to play the clip. | ||
| We have to deal with this bullshit. | ||
| It was an obvious misspeaking. | ||
| He didn't even play the clip! | ||
| If I were Fallon, I'd be like, what? | ||
| He didn't play the clip! | ||
| You queued up the wrong clip, baby! | ||
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He played the clip of him being anti-Semitic instead! | |
| That doesn't seem like an accident! | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| That somehow still doesn't seem like a mistake. | ||
| It seems like what he intends to do. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| He's a nut. | ||
| It hurts me. | ||
| Like, that seemed like such an easy slam dunk. | ||
| You set the clip up, knock it down, we move on five minutes down the road, we all get to have a good time. | ||
| No one has to know that you got owned in that debate the rest of the time. | ||
| And instead, he's like, you're right, no one has to know I got owned in that debate. | ||
| But I'm a anti-Semite. | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| Because he has to connect the beginning of the documentary to the end. | ||
| He was talking anti-Semitic shit about Nathan Rothschild at the beginning. | ||
| So now he's got to talk to his ancestor and say anti-Semitic shit at the end. | ||
| But you can leave that part implied. | ||
| The point that you've got to get to is the I gotcha moment. | ||
| Jordan, show don't tell. | ||
| Show don't tell. | ||
| Otherwise, if you don't do that, if you don't hit that home instead, it's just you being a dick to multiple generations of everybody. | ||
| I think he might actually play the clip of Rothschild later. | ||
| I think he does, but at the same time, it's inexcusable. | ||
| Yeah, that was when you played it! | ||
| I think he does play it. | ||
| As I recall, he does. | ||
| I'm just weirded out by how he's like, and he even gets the order of the planets wrong. | ||
| Now, he hears me screaming anti-Semitic things at his face. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| The level of mistakes that were made in editing of this documentary are... | ||
| Outrageous. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| In terms of fact-checking, in terms of the bibliography, in terms of just, like, if I were the guy who was tasked with having to, like, put this together. | ||
| Because whoever made this, it's two and a half hours long or so. | ||
| It's way too long. | ||
| It would take a really long time to put together all the video and the audio. | ||
| It would be like... | ||
| It's taken us ten hours just to watch it. | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
| Eight. | ||
| We're going to get through this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We're going to make it. | ||
| All right. | ||
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We're causing it mainly, the vast majority of it. | |
| The consequences are bad and will be catastrophic unless we act. | ||
| The polar ice caps of Mars are receding at several miles a year, much faster than ours, and that the moons of Saturn and Jupiter are melting. | ||
| In fact, several of their moons were ice and are now liquid seas. | ||
| Now, how are SUVs causing that, David Rothschild? | ||
| That's because those planets are closer to the sun, my friend. | ||
| Oh, yeah, there we go. | ||
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No, Jupiter and Saturn are not closer to the sun. | |
| Knock it up, knock it down. | ||
| Peck it up, peck it in. | ||
| I think you're fine, right? | ||
| Let me begin. | ||
| It's a very simple matter, and what I wanted to say, and this is my final point, forget your taxation theory, because actually it's not taxation. | ||
| Put a price on the carbon. | ||
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A tax is the best way. | |
| Cap and trade can also do it. | ||
|
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If there were a carbon-based tax, would there be a need for, I want to talk a little bit about Al Gore and his carbon tax connection that Alex Jones lies about a lot. | |
| Because I actually looked into this and I find it incredibly fascinating. | ||
| The carbon tax stuff is amazing. | ||
| How much Alex is lying about all of it. | ||
| Especially Al Gore. | ||
| That's a high bar. | ||
| Knowing his personal distrust and hatred of Al Gore, I believe he would lie to the nth degree. | ||
| I read this one blog. | ||
| I don't even remember what it was, and they don't even fucking deserve a citation. | ||
| But they're like, climate change is coasting along strictly on the charisma of Al Gore. | ||
| That's the weirdest thing anybody... | ||
| Do you not know that he's... | ||
| Stereotypical. | ||
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Famously! | |
| Yeah, his one characteristic is he's boring as shit. | ||
| Yeah, the thing! | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Didn't he host SNL in every skit was just about how boring he was? | ||
| Did he host SNL? | ||
| I feel like he's just been portrayed on SNL as the most boring guy forever. | ||
| I might have conflated things, but be that as it may. | ||
| So, I want to talk about carbon taxes. | ||
| You want to rap? | ||
| I want to give you an example. | ||
| Let's rap about carbon tax. | ||
| Do you want to turn your chair around and sit on it like a... | ||
| Hey, youth! | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So, Jordan, this year, Singapore is about to implement a carbon tax. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In this upcoming year. | ||
| Right, and they've lost sovereignty. | ||
| So this isn't a tax that should affect citizens at all. | ||
| I read this write-up about it, and here's the quote. | ||
| The tax will affect 30 to 40 large emitters, defined as those that emit 25,000 or more tons of greenhouse gases annually. | ||
| The government is looking at charging between $10 and $20 per ton of greenhouse gas emissions. | ||
| The goal is to incentivize reducing emissions and create a level playing field for the development of sustainable energy sources that are being held down by being left out of large subsidies offered to coal and fossil fuel industries. | ||
| So now if you look at that, it's 30 to 40 businesses that are only going to be affected by this. | ||
| If you extrapolate that, it would just be a number of businesses here, maybe a thousand businesses in America that would be affected. | ||
| So, the reality is that a bunch of countries have imposed carbon taxes in the past. | ||
| Have they reduced carbon emissions? | ||
| Dude, get this. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Look, based on what I know from listening to Alex Jones, if you implement a carbon tax of any kind... | ||
| The entirety of the world will collapse. | ||
| So tell me Dan that that has happened. | ||
| Many times over. | ||
| So the United Kingdom imposed one in 2013. | ||
| Ireland did in 2010. | ||
| Sweden did in 1991. | ||
| Finland in 1990. | ||
| Never even heard of Finland. | ||
| All of these countries saw near-immediate results in decreased CO2 emissions with minimal impact on the economy and no energy outages. | ||
| Australia provides the starkest example of the efficacy of carbon taxation. | ||
| They enacted a carbon tax in 2012 but repealed it in 2014. | ||
| To weirdness in the government. | ||
| Things got weird and people got mad and they're like, get rid of that. | ||
| And they're like, yeah, well, alright, fine. | ||
| It was not the voice of the people being heard. | ||
| It was industry. | ||
| If there's anything I know about the Australian government from 2014 till further, it's the will of the people. | ||
| Strongly heard. | ||
| So now if you look at graphs of emissions from the time period between 2012 and 2014, what you see is consistent decrease from July 2012 to July 2014, dropping over 15 million tons in that time. | ||
| That's pretty solid. | ||
| The emissions dropped very precipitously. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Immediately after the repeal in July 2014, the trend turns around, and within five months, emissions had gone back up approximately 5 million tons. | ||
| So, there is a very clear-cut example of this works. | ||
| This is effective in terms of cutting down emissions. | ||
| Using the examples of countries that have embraced carbon taxation, you can't realistically claim that they don't work to reduce emissions. | ||
| The only argument you can make... | ||
| Eh, that's what people said about guns. | ||
| Well, that's also true, and Australia's involved. | ||
| They say you take people's guns away, then there's not going to be as many shooting deaths. | ||
| Bullshit, Dan. | ||
| Where's the science? | ||
| Don't muddy the water. | ||
| Show me a scientist. | ||
| Don't muddy the water, Bertrand. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So the only argument you can really make is that emissions don't affect climate change, which scientists have thoroughly addressed and isn't the case, or that money is somehow being swindled by these climate taxes. | ||
| That's the only thing that you can possibly do. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Now the latter is a matter of, it is really interesting. | ||
| If that's the case, then that's not really a climate change issue. | ||
| That's a government corruption issue. | ||
| Seems like it. | ||
| And you should deal with it as it relates to that, as opposed to... | ||
| Seems like you should get rid of those people in the government, not the tax. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, this idea that people, these fat cats, are trying to get rich off carbon taxes. | ||
| Oh no, those fat cats? | ||
| Or they're trying to fund the New World Order. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| No, those guys I am worried about. | ||
| It's interesting because there's these people who are really strong proponents of pushing for the carbon tax, the Carbon Tax Center. | ||
| They include this as an integral part of their proposal. | ||
| Quote, to avoid... | ||
| Kill Whitey! | ||
| That's in there. | ||
| That's lower. | ||
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Is that in there? | |
| That's lower. | ||
| Is that lower on the list? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| To avoid burdening low and moderate income households, carbon tax proceeds should be returned to Americans through periodic prorated dividends or dedicated to reducing the tax burden of regressive taxes such as the federal payroll tax and state sales tax depending on whether the tax is imposed on the federal or state level. | ||
| There is a precedent for this sort of thing like the Alaska Permanent Fund where the state of Alaska sends every citizen a check for the same amount as payment for the earnings of investments made from the state's... | ||
| Canada announced carbon pricing floors in 2016 and this is what the plan included. | ||
| British Columbia's system is designed to be revenue neutral, meaning that the government will take in no extra money from the tax and instead return it through tax credits and cuts. | ||
| Alberta's system returns some of the costs to lower income consumers in the form of a rebate and small business taxes have been reduced from 3% to 2% to help offset costs. | ||
| So a lot of the money that is being brought in by climate or carbon taxes in countries that are using it is legitimately being funneled directly back into the people who are paying for energy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, let me tell you why that is a smart idea and why it will never work here. | ||
| Do you know what is more likely to work here, Dan? | ||
| I hesitate to answer. | ||
| Is if the government implemented a carbon tax, said, we're using it to give back to richer people, and then ended the conversation there. | ||
| Somehow everyone would be tricked into being along with it. | ||
| They would be fine with it. | ||
| There's no way, because you can't sell America on something that benefits America. | ||
| That only makes our crazy people go crazier. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're more comfortable with you if you were like, okay, so... | ||
| We're implementing a carbon tax on ExxonMobil, and that carbon tax, all of the proceeds of which, will go to subsidize ExxonMobil's new home, which we have hired Exhibit to pimp out. | ||
| That would be more cool with America than if you were like, no, no, no, guys, we got it. | ||
| Wait, can we watch? | ||
| Carbon tax is bad. | ||
| Carbon tax is bad. | ||
| Look, we know it's bad. | ||
| We know you don't like it. | ||
| We know you guys are going to feel weird about any new taxes, so what we're going to do is we're going to take this tax, and it's not going to affect you. | ||
| It's not going to affect you. | ||
| It's like the estate tax. | ||
| Stop screaming at me about the estate tax. | ||
| I wish I hadn't brought that up. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| The estate tax only affects that. | ||
| I really should not talk about the estate tax in this conversation. | ||
| All right, you're making a good point. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Just calm down. | ||
| Just calm down. | ||
| We're going to take the money away from the people killing your children. | ||
| And we're going to give it back to you because you need it and your children need it. | ||
| And your children are dying because of these people. | ||
| And not only are we not taking money away from them, we're just taking away the subsidies we already give them. | ||
| Do you know what's crazy? | ||
| We don't even need to enact a tax because right now you are paying for those rich oil companies to murder your children. | ||
| So what we're going to do is we're just going to make that better. | ||
| I get what you're saying, but I've completely lost track of the roleplay. | ||
| I don't know what to do. | ||
| You were supposed to be the American people. | ||
| I was going to ask for a binky. | ||
| That's what I was going to do. | ||
| That also is acceptable. | ||
| You get plus five points. | ||
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That was my comedic instinct, was to say, I want text binky. | |
| Which might have worked if I just tried it. | ||
| It might have worked if you'd have committed to it, but instead you got nervous. | ||
| You bailed. | ||
| You bailed. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Plus five points for the attempted. | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| Minus five points for the fail. | ||
| Break even. | ||
| So the big problem that I have is that this is a carbon tax that will be applied to the businesses and what have you, but there's no law that affects them. | ||
| Just passing the tax down to consumers. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which I think is really what should be done is that, no, you fucking live with that tax, you asshole. | ||
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Right. | |
| Instead of charging everybody more and then the money that's collected from the tax redistributed to the people who had to pay more for... | ||
| Now, of course, the argument against that is that if you tax ExxonMobil or those guys more, they're just going to then pass that tax... | ||
| That's what I just said. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I say, fuck that. | ||
| There should be something in place that says you can't do that. | ||
| How would you not do that? | ||
| Eat the tax, bitch. | ||
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That's what I would say. | |
| How would you not do that? | ||
| That's my bill. | ||
| Eat the tax. | ||
| Eat the tax, bitch. | ||
| You can't pass it along. | ||
| It seems like something that should be able to happen. | ||
| How? | ||
| Because otherwise there's no way for the government or society to restrain business at all. | ||
| Because any time a business is levied with some sort of penalty, or they're levied with any sort of tax, they can be like, alright. | ||
| Products are a little more expensive. | ||
| Everyone's going to buy them anyway. | ||
| Right, but that is the point of it, though. | ||
| Capitalism sucks. | ||
| Well, yeah, capitalism sucks. | ||
| But if you are going to do that, if you are going to tax an Exxon or the like, you have to then remove the oil subsidies that you give them in the first place. | ||
| So what you're really doing is making it so expensive to do those things that you are fostering a market change. | ||
| For somebody to do something else. | ||
| What's the highest growing job creator now is alternative energy. | ||
| Take all the oil and gas subsidies away from Exxon and those guys today. | ||
| Give it to alternative energy. | ||
| You won't need a carbon tax. | ||
| They will go away on their own because it turns out their businesses are... | ||
| Built almost entirely around fucking people over. | ||
| There's actually some good arguments I've read for why that wouldn't work, but I can't remember exactly what they are right now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But there are some compelling arguments about why... | ||
| Oh, I'm not saying that's like a... | ||
| Jordan fixed it. | ||
| No, that's not a quick solution to that. | ||
| No, but even subsidies for the renewables energy wouldn't necessarily be a positive thing. | ||
| I don't remember exactly what it was, and I feel stupid talking about it right now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, but there's also been massive failures that the government has invested millions upon millions of dollars in and have exploded miserably because it turns out renewable energy is hard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which it's almost like... | ||
| Sometimes you go down the wrong road. | ||
| It's almost like maybe if you fuck up one time on saving the universe, you shouldn't just quit. | ||
| So speaking of that, let's talk about Al Gore. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So Alex Jones liked to say he pretends that this whole tax credit thing, this carbon tax thing, this carbon tax credit thing, is all a scam by Al Gore because he owns a bunch of tax carbon credits that he's secretly going to be making billions of dollars off of if only the world will get in line with him. | ||
| Oh man, if Alex had known about Bitcoin when he made this film, Jesus. | ||
| So, the accusation that Al Gore is just making stuff up so he can get super rich on sustainable energy is ridiculously flimsy. | ||
| For that to be true, thousands and thousands of scientists and researchers, academics and politicians all would have to be lying to support his scam. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Independent, peer-reviewed studies would have to be falsified, you know, for no reason. | ||
| Easy. | ||
| Just in order to prop up his scam, all by people who don't stand to gain anything from the scam themselves. | ||
| I know a guy. | ||
| The reality of this is that Al Gore started a business called Generation Investment Management in 2004 as a means of investing in and helping move forward renewable green technologies. | ||
| The firm has been very successful because it turns out sustainable resources can be incredibly profitable as a market to be in. | ||
| The message he hopes Generations Record will call attention to is one that the world's investors can't ignore. | ||
| That they can make more money if they change their practices in a way that will, at the same time, also reduce the environmental and social damage modern capitalism can do. | ||
| That was from a profile in The Atlantic. | ||
| If you look at it, his investment firm, only working with sustainable business models, has outperformed... | ||
| Like, across the board, almost every other investment firm. | ||
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I like that, and it makes me angry! | |
| It does matter. | ||
| It does matter. | ||
| I know, but it makes me so angry. | ||
| That shouldn't be how we measure things, but at the same time, good for him. | ||
| I don't know who to root for. | ||
| Well, I don't root for him implicitly, but I root for him in that what his model is is trying to get people to be selfish in the long run. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I think that is a good thing. | ||
| And the fact that everyone has thought about this idea of what he's doing and been like, that's not possible. | ||
| And he went and fucked around and did it. | ||
| And now everyone's like, oh, there's a concrete example of making a lot of money in this. | ||
| And he wasn't even trying, and he got a triple-double. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He had a good day. | ||
| Come on. | ||
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Anyway. | |
| Anyway. | ||
| The architects of the New World Order are in a race to complete the structure of world government so they can suppress the independent development of technologies that threaten their monopoly of power, while at the same time steering new developments in the direction the architects chart for humanity. | ||
| There's that tree! | ||
| The technocrats call their governing system the Final Revolution. | ||
| No! | ||
| Because in the past, empires were enforced militarily. | ||
| He's mixing up a lot of things. | ||
| The First Global Revolution is a reference to the Club of Rome. | ||
| The Ultimate Revolution is the name of the speech that Aldix Huxley gave. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The Final Revolution is nothing. | ||
| Now enforcement is primarily psychological and economic, and society itself is a construct of the elite who operate outside the controlled paradigm and control the civilization within, just as a child maintains the environment That doesn't make sense. | ||
| We are like lab rats living out our entire existence, never questioning the confines of the cage or the scientists who experiment on us. | ||
| New World Order engineers have hijacked human destiny. | ||
| Its controllers have closely studied human behavior for more than a hundred years. | ||
| And are now steering us with expert control. | ||
| We both were shocked by that. | ||
| The sound is great on this. | ||
| Give that. | ||
| Oh, hey! | ||
| Why are there tits? | ||
| Why did tits suddenly show up in this documentary? | ||
| Right after Lohan's mugshot. | ||
| Yeah, you can't give me two hours of bullshit and then tits. | ||
| Here's another quote. | ||
| By 2020, there will be a one-world government. | ||
| Ray Kurzweil, 1999. | ||
| Yay! | ||
| I don't even need to know. | ||
| You could have just made that up. | ||
| Some asshole said that. | ||
| It is real, but it's actually misquoted. | ||
| Yeah, some asshole said it. | ||
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I don't give a shit. | |
| It's misquoted. | ||
| It's by 2020 there will be a new world government. | ||
| This is from his book, The Age of Intelligent Machines. | ||
| And it suffers from the same curse that all of his work does, namely that he makes a lot of predictions that sound interesting but aren't really based on anything other than speculation. | ||
| Raker's while has a terrible track record with predictions, including such like this. | ||
| So, this was from his book in 1999. | ||
| These are predictions for 2009. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| People use personal computers the size of rings, pens, credit cards, and books. | ||
| The typical home will have... | ||
| Wait. | ||
| I'll give him two for five on that one. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| People use personal computers the size of books? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| That's one. | ||
| For four. | ||
| Well, what was the... | ||
| Pins? | ||
| Credit cards? | ||
| Rings? | ||
| Credit cards? | ||
| Credit card? | ||
| Phone? | ||
| Credit card phone? | ||
| I'm going to give them that. | ||
| That's way smaller. | ||
| We'll give them one and a half. | ||
| We'll give them one and a half. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| The typical home has over 100 computers in it, many of which are embedded in appliances. | ||
| What is a computer? | ||
| And yes, he is correct. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| Don't go back to the abacus argument. | ||
| Cybernetic chauffeurs can drive cars for humans and be retrofitted into existing cars. | ||
| That's true, but we just call them people that we don't talk to. | ||
| Uber? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They work by communicating with other vehicles and with sensors embedded into the roads. | ||
| Again, as long as you don't feel like Uber drivers are people, that's true. | ||
| He's made a number of, like, sort of solid predictions, too. | ||
| Like, most music will be distributed electronically, and most transactions will be made on the internet. | ||
| Like, those sort of predictions. | ||
| Great. | ||
| A lot of that is just, like... | ||
| It's just pretty solid guesswork. | ||
| That's not really that crazy. | ||
| That is just sort of having a good idea about where technology is going. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| A lot of his other stuff is pretty crazy. | ||
| It's really wild. | ||
| Like, one of his other predictions was that by 2009... | ||
| Musicians will jam with robot mans. | ||
| Robots will be capable of the creativity to jam. | ||
| And then when he was called on it, he was like, you ever play Guitar Hero? | ||
| That's not the same thing, asshole! | ||
| Wait, when did he say this? | ||
| After 2009. | ||
| Oh, this was after 2009 that he said that eventually... | ||
| Whenever Guitar Hero was out. | ||
| So it had to have been 2009, 2010. | ||
| I'd have been like, man, you never heard of Herbie Hancock? | ||
| Robots already know how to jam. | ||
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Bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow. | |
| The important thing to think about with Ray Kurzweil is he is a futurist and a technologist. | ||
| And so the only thing that he really cares about when he makes predictions is talking about technology, not politics or any other consideration. | ||
| His argument that he's making in this text... | ||
| Is there a reason to listen to him? | ||
| Ray Kurzweil, what does he do? | ||
| He's a futurist. | ||
| He also worked for Google. | ||
| I feel like futurist isn't a gig. | ||
| He's a very prominent... | ||
| Futurist is a fucking gig. | ||
| You know what you can do? | ||
| You know how, like, Alan Watts has all those fucking videos that people have online with swelling music behind him giving lectures? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the same thing with Ray Kurzweil. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| Do you want to do that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have we not... | ||
| Have we... | ||
| Consider that maybe our issue is that we just haven't put swelling music behind us at the right time? | ||
| This documentary certainly has a lot of it. | ||
| No shit! | ||
| It's doing great. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| But Ray Kurzweil also was a consultant at Google and what have you. | ||
| He's a big-time dude. | ||
| Ray, what do you think about the future? | ||
| It's coming! | ||
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All right. | |
| Robots going to be jamming. | ||
| But this idea that he's presenting about this new world government, not one world government, as Alec is misquoting, is that it's about technology. | ||
| The argument that he's making is that... | ||
| Technology! | ||
| The advances in technology that are going to happen, like the proliferation of the internet and space travel and that sort of stuff, it's going to necessitate greater world collaboration to avoid the end result of complete segregation between nations or destruction. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As it looks now, with China and Russia existing in their current state and Trump stroking up a virulent strain of American nationalism, There's zero reason to think a government is going to happen in two years. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So this prediction is pretty shit. | ||
| Alex misquoted it by using the wrong word there, but otherwise, fine. | ||
| Also, Ray Kurzweil's predictions, not great. | ||
| dominated the 20th century. | ||
| Its ruthless spirit has now metastasized into the fields of genetics, nanotech, and robotics. | ||
| Genetics is in the word eugenics. | ||
| From their inception, all three disciplines have been dominated by eugenicists. | ||
| The billionaire founder of Sun Microsystems, Bill Joy, courageously went public in 2000 to warn of a cancerous consensus among the technocratic elite. | ||
| That at best humanity would be completely enslaved by the year 2030. | ||
| And at worst, mass extermination of everyone. | ||
| God, it took so much courage for him to say that. | ||
| He wrote this article, Why the Future Doesn't Need Us. | ||
| If you go read it, Alex is completely misrepresenting it. | ||
| It's a fucking really long, boring thing to go through. | ||
| What it is is dripping with courage. | ||
| And we've gone over this on the show already. | ||
| And I've already abandoned my whole thing. | ||
| Like, this is going to be a standalone. | ||
| There's no way anyone who doesn't already like the show is going to enjoy this. | ||
| Oh, of course not. | ||
| The fuck are we doing? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm realizing that now. | ||
| I have a couple of really fucking funny things that are coming up still. | ||
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I promise you. | |
| I'm so self-conscious. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| There's 13 minutes left of this documentary, and I'm losing it. | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| Like, not done, but, like, my emotional state is so fried. | ||
| I've lost my mind. | ||
| I feel so guilty that I've kept you here this long. | ||
| We agreed. | ||
| We agreed. | ||
| We were married in common law court. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You do a podcast with someone for seven hours, your common law married. | ||
| That's common law married, that is. | ||
| Admiralty law, baby. | ||
| So anyway, go read. | ||
| You can find Why the Future Doesn't Need Us. | ||
| You can find this online. | ||
| Or don't. | ||
| No, read it. | ||
| It's actually really interesting. | ||
| It has nothing to do with what Alex is talking about. | ||
| You just said it was really boring. | ||
| No, it's boring for us to talk about. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| We've already talked about it in depth. | ||
| It doesn't say any of the things Alex is saying. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And Ray Kurzweil is fucking also heavily featured. | ||
| There's just more interesting stuff for us to cover. | ||
| The best part of doing this all in one thing is I'm just interested to find out how angry we are. | ||
| We're both going to be for different reasons right as it ends. | ||
| We're both going to be pissed off. | ||
| No, I think we'll feel a joy, an elation, orgasmic, orgiastic pleasure. | ||
| No, I'm going to go with none of those. | ||
| All right. | ||
| He's talking about transhumanism. | ||
| Many of its adherents see only the beneficial aspects of technology's exponential rise. | ||
| Like bringing sight to the blind, sound to the deaf, and longer life for all. | ||
| So one of the problems that Alex has here with transhumanism is that he's pretending that transhumanism is one thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| People do not agree within that community that... | ||
| Nope. | ||
| They all fucking fight with each other all the time. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I can't imagine a transhumanist society fighting with each other. | ||
| And he's pretending... | ||
| Literally the entire meaning of your name is transhumaning. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is getting beyond what a human is. | ||
| Of course, getting along with other people trying to get beyond you at the same time. | ||
| And he pretends that post-humanism was what transhumanism grew out of. | ||
| No one within the transhumanist community actually even agrees that that's true. | ||
| Some people think it is possible that they grew out of post-humanism, but that's not a consensus. | ||
| They all have arguments about it because they fucking argue about everything. | ||
| The problem that Alex runs into here is treating a large, diverse group as one individual thing. | ||
| He's pretending that all transhumanists believe in the singularity, which isn't true, or that they agree about anything. | ||
| More than anything else, transhumanism is a school of theorists. | ||
| They're mostly interested in watching emerging technologies and speculating about how those technologies could be used in the advancement of humanity and what the implications of those uses could be. | ||
| The history of transhumanism has been one of bold and interesting predictions, most of which have been wrong. | ||
| In 1999, in a different book Ray Kurzweil wrote called The Age of Spiritual Machines, he included a number of predictions. | ||
| Some of these have also failed. | ||
| This is where the humans jam with cybernetic musicians. | ||
| Translating telephones, speech-to-speech language translation, are commonly used for many language pairs. | ||
| That is absolutely not the case. | ||
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Those are here pretty much now. | |
| Not even close. | ||
| Probably within the next decade or so, that technology will be refined, but no. | ||
| The recognition software is not good. | ||
| You can do it, but whatever's gonna come out is gonna be real fucking clunky. | ||
| It's gonna be brutal. | ||
| It's gonna be clunky translation. | ||
| It exists. | ||
| I'll give him one. | ||
| Oh, sh- I'll give him minus one. | ||
| No, okay. | ||
| I'll give him minus one instead of minus ten. | ||
| Most routine business transactions, purchases, travel, reservations take place between a human and a virtual personality. | ||
| Often, the virtual presentation includes an animated visual presence that will look like a human face. | ||
| He just watched anime. | ||
| He got high and looked at Clippy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what happened. | ||
| Do you need some help with that prediction? | ||
| The majority of text is created using continuous speech recognition. | ||
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That one's no good. | |
| That one's further away than the other two. | ||
| I think we're closer to getting an animated Siri hanging around with us as we buy shit. | ||
| No one has any use for that. | ||
| Because you can just buy things through interfaces on Amazon and shit like that. | ||
| You have no interest in talking to a robot on the screen. | ||
| Super cute. | ||
| No. | ||
| Transhumanism dwells in that same area as motivational speakers to some extent. | ||
| Most of what people know or ever hear about them are flowy speeches about potentialities and all this fun stuff about human futures. | ||
| The reality is that transhumanism is much more diverse, much less exciting, and often bogged down with debates about the ethical implications of... | ||
| Possible future technologies. | ||
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Right. | |
| And Alex is pretending it's all, like, people are like, we worship this angularity. | ||
| Well, the most recent transhumanist event of our time has been a dude injecting himself with what he thinks is a herpes cure. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| On stage, in front of everybody else at the transhumanist. | ||
| Wait, wait, are you telling me that he had Lord Moncton's... | ||
| A patented herpes cure? | ||
| No, it was a... | ||
| You didn't hear about this? | ||
| No, but I've heard about these guys who make themselves cyborgs by like... | ||
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Well, it's... | |
| Yeah, they're like... | ||
| Implanting little things. | ||
| It's like a biohackers conference. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That kind of thing. | ||
| Those guys put magnets in their fingers. | ||
| You got the people who got magnets in their fingers, and this guy is like, well, I biohacked a cure for herpes. | ||
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Hell yeah. | |
| Guess what? | ||
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I got herpes, and he just shoved it right up his ass. | |
| It's pretty great. | ||
| Up his ass? | ||
| It's a syringe. | ||
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Cheek. | |
| It's a syringe, so it's in the cheek. | ||
| It wasn't straight up there, but, you know. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You can take artistic license however you like it. | ||
| I suppose so. | ||
| Whatever you need at this late hour. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let's come on. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| We're still watching this documentary. | ||
| But what many of them don't know is that Master Eugenicist Julian Huxley founded transhumanism and that society's controllers openly admit that the new system is designed. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Julian Huxley is sometimes credited as having coined the term transhumanism, but that's... | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| Realistically, the roots of transhumanism could be considered... | ||
| We could go back to any ancient world stories about the conquest for immortality. | ||
| I was going to say, anytime people are like, I don't want to be people no more! | ||
| You could talk about Ponce de Leon's hunt for the fountain of youth, any of these sorts of things. | ||
| Any of the sort of like... | ||
| I don't want to be people no more! | ||
| These impulses that humans have are just deeply rooted in our condition. | ||
| The man has always sought after a dream to finding external inputs that will grant them longer life or immortality. | ||
| Even Alex... | ||
| Jones' own product DNA force comes from that mentality. | ||
| I don't want to be people no more! | ||
| It markets itself by saying it repairs damage to the telomeres of your DNA, which they imply, but legally can't claim, will improve your body's longevity. | ||
| He even sells products from Dr. Wallach's Young Jevity line, whose name evokes nothing if not the longevity of youth. | ||
| And Young Jeezy. | ||
| Yeah, that's true also. | ||
| Those are the only two things that that name evokes. | ||
| The second is absolutely an accident. | ||
| Julian Huxley did coin transhumanism, the term, if you ask some people who are wrong, in an article he wrote in 1957. | ||
| Nice shade. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| But the truth is the term had been used by Canadian philosopher W.D. Lighthall 17 years earlier. | ||
| None of these ideas about transhumanism were new when Huxley was around. | ||
| It's just that he was a high-profile biologist and the brother of Aldous Huxley, and the technological advances were much greater in 1957 than they were in 1940 or in 1924 when J.B.S. | ||
| Haldane introduced So all these ideas that exist for fucking 30 years by the time Aldous Huxley got around. | ||
| So what you're saying is nobody ain't never heard of steampunk before. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what you just said. | ||
| Hundo. | ||
| So the World Transhumanist Association put out two clear definitions of the transhumanist movement in general, which means that all transhumanists do not agree with either of these. | ||
| I was going to say none of them. | ||
| That's part of it. | ||
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The whole point of being a transhumanist is you're not stuck with all of this bullshit. | |
| I'm not even going to read either of those. | ||
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If you wanted to just be a human, you would have been with the humanist bullshit. | |
| I'm moving straight past those. | ||
| Why would you want to be a transhumanist? | ||
| You're like, okay. | ||
| Look, we need to hack our bodies. | ||
| We need to change. | ||
| This entire earth is destroying us. | ||
| This human body that I exist in is not functional anymore. | ||
| We're all dying. | ||
| What I need to do is I need to make this massive change. | ||
| I need to find a way to augment my body so I can survive. | ||
| Wait a second. | ||
| Are you telling me that I'm just going to get caught up with all this bullshit with other people with magnets in my hands? | ||
| Fuck this! | ||
| I want to get into a fight. | ||
| I want to be a transhumanist. | ||
| I want to put more magnets in my hand. | ||
| I want to put more magnets in my hand. | ||
| I don't want to have to talk to some asshole about magnets in your hands is wrong. | ||
| That's the whole point of putting magnets in my hand. | ||
| That's your transhumanist right. | ||
| That's my transhumanist right. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I say. | ||
| Look, the bottom line is, even those two things, all it really boils down to is that they've always, throughout their entire history of transhumanism, had a very big emphasis on the ethics of possible technologies. | ||
| It's been an essential part of transhumanism, and probably one of the parts that makes it the most boring. | ||
| But anyway. | ||
| Leading transhumanist Ray Kurzweil. | ||
| Boasts that technological advancements will allow those that can afford it to live forever, but admits that most won't be able to keep up with the new master race. | ||
| The drive for world government is now all about who will control and have access to radical life extension systems. | ||
| Margaret Thatcher's husband. | ||
| Dan. | ||
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Biological evolution is too slow for the human species. | |
| Over the next few decades, it's going to be left in the dust. | ||
| Okay, yeah, that actually sounds right. | ||
| No, I think I'm on board with that. | ||
| I think he's nailed that. | ||
| I'd like to humble myself before you. | ||
| I have no idea if this quote is real. | ||
| At this point in the documentary, I've given up on trying to prove his quotes because they're all so fake. | ||
| I don't give a fuck what Rick Kurzweil says. | ||
| It could be real, could not be. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| We found Dan's breaking point. | ||
| Transhumanists believe... | ||
| Three Ray Kurzweil quotes will get him to kill himself. | ||
| ...by merging with technology. | ||
| Now, it may be within their reach. | ||
| Decades ago, transhumanists said that if you did not accept augmentation or enhancements, you would no longer be able to get jobs. | ||
| And now it's happening today. | ||
| Oh, we totally did it. | ||
| Before we get to this quote, he flashed up that thing about Mexican government workers having to get microchipped. | ||
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An Ohio plant had a computer chip. | |
| This is all such fucking nonsense. | ||
| There's two reasons that the Mexican government is microchipping people. | ||
| First, is that they have to make sure that access to sensitive information is contained. | ||
| Second, they have nowhere else to put these goddamn microchips. | ||
| They're everywhere. | ||
| They're fucking everywhere. | ||
| These microchips are everywhere. | ||
| Put them in your hands! | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| The largest issue with Mexican law enforcement that they face outside of the cartels is police corruption. | ||
| The use of RFID chips implanted in police officers allows a much greater control of access to restricted information, evidence lockers, that sort of thing. | ||
| Chips implanted in arms cannot be faked because they give a unique RFID code for each person and allows a record of who is accessed what pieces of evidence. | ||
| Can't doctor stuff, all that. | ||
| This could not be achieved using a device planted in a standard ID card for the same reason that an ID card... | ||
| It could be stolen. | ||
| The ID card's corrupt officer could just be like, hey, someone took my card or something like that. | ||
| They're not giving them to rank-and-file employees. | ||
| These are federal top cops and prosecutors because they have a massive problem. | ||
| Also, you're going to get somebody's hand taken off. | ||
| No, you can't do that because they're so fragile, these things, that if you try and take them out of someone's arm or whatever, they'll break. | ||
| Well, that's why you take the arm. | ||
| But you can't walk into a government building with an arm. | ||
| I think someone would be like, a guy? | ||
| Hey, guy. | ||
| Hey. | ||
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Hey. | |
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| You put it... | ||
| Even in the most terrible parts of Mexico, I think someone would be like, what's up? | ||
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Put it in the back. | |
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Here you go. | ||
| Are you going to say bassinet? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Not going to say bassinet. | ||
| I am not going to walk in an arm and a baby. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| What kind of monster would I be? | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Anybody order a sandwich? | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Because I got an arm and a sandwich bag for ya. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Done. | ||
| Get me into that evidence locker! | ||
| That might work, but it'd be strange for the subway delivery guy to wander around. | ||
| Please don't give weird... | ||
| Eight hours into an Alex Jones documentary, a little bit drunk Jordan, a nice little kick in the arm with, yeah, you could probably rip a federal employee's arm off and then break into the Mexico City. | ||
| It would be tough. | ||
| It would be a challenge. | ||
| It would be Ocean 17. I could do it. | ||
| So the other reason... | ||
| But six would be arms. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The other reason that they do this is because there's a lot of kidnappings in Mexico. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so a lot of people are getting chipped in order to... | ||
| A lot of kidnappings! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Mexico ranks incredibly high in terms of kidnapping statistics. | ||
| Kidnapping jumped almost 40% between 2004 and 2007 in Mexico, according to official statistics. | ||
| Mexico ranks right up there with conflict zones like Iraq and Colombia as the worst countries for abductions. | ||
| So there's a lot of people who are interested in that, in chipping for that. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I would prefer not to get abducted. | ||
| It's not entirely clear. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| Almost certainly not. | ||
| Like, if you're saying that the chip is so fragile, where are you going to put the chip? | ||
| Eh, never mind. | ||
| Let's get to this dumbass clip. | ||
| I could probably kidnap you. | ||
| Here's a dumb quote. | ||
| Let's kidnap somebody. | ||
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...by the commanding heights of digital reality are suicidal nihilists. | |
| Suicidal nihilists... | ||
| Arthur Croker. | ||
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...purpose to their willing, but they would always prefer to go on willing than not to act at all. | |
| They can very happily ally themselves with a notion of nuclear holocaust or perfect exterminism. | ||
| Technology. | ||
| So that was a quote from a guy named Arthur Croker. | ||
| I looked at the citation that Alex gives and... | ||
| To be determined whether or not Arthur Croker even exists. | ||
| He gives a citation to Wired Magazine, this article called Way New Leftists. | ||
| It's not in there at all. | ||
| But there's another citation to a publication called Mondo 2000, which was a cyberpunk magazine. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Alright, you've intrigued me. | ||
| I looked into this a little bit. | ||
| I'm going to tell you a fucking awesome story about Mondo 2000. | ||
| Well, is it how the place got its name? | ||
| It does actually relate to that a little bit. | ||
| But before I get into that, I'm going to say, Arthur Croker, because I read the Way New Leftist's article in Wired magazine, he's a Hunter S. Thompson-y kind of guy. | ||
| He speaks with these flourishes of extremism and metaphor and all this stuff. | ||
| So you take that quote with a very large grain of salt in terms of what he's actually talking about. | ||
| He sometimes speaks in riddles. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Fucking throw that in there. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| But if you read other... | ||
| Other interviews with him, you come to the conclusion that, like, I like what this guy is putting down, but I don't believe anything. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So here we go. | ||
| So the quote here, this one about these suicidal nihilists, these people at the top of the digital reality, comes from a San Francisco cyberpunk zine that was run by a very serious group of drug addicts. | ||
| They started the magazine, they called it High Frontiers, then changed the name to Reality Hackers, finally setting on the name Mondo 2000 in 1989. | ||
| Why would that be the one you settle on, guys? | ||
| Because reality hackers, they found that they couldn't get distribution because people thought that they were, like, cutting people up or some sort of... | ||
| Their imagery on the covers and stuff was a little bit extreme and shit like that. | ||
| So the name Reality Hackers, everyone thought it was kind of like... | ||
| Oh, so they thought they were hacking up... | ||
| They thought it was like a gore magazine or something like that. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| And so in 1989, this guy who ran it, his name is Gnome de Plume, was R.U. Serious. | ||
| Fun. | ||
| He was watching TV. | ||
| No, I get it. | ||
| He was watching TV. | ||
| I'm going to subtract five points for that. | ||
| I didn't say that. | ||
| I didn't make that up. | ||
| I know, but you pointed it out. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| So he came out. | ||
| He was watching TV, and he's like, everything is 2,000 now. | ||
| All of these weird names of products are all 2,000. | ||
| And so Queen Moo, the other person involved. | ||
| Another negative five points. | ||
| I wasn't there. | ||
| I didn't do this. | ||
| Queen Moo? | ||
| How's she doing? | ||
| She's great. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Is she alright? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| She refuses to give interviews to this day. | ||
| Good for her. | ||
| Good call, lady. | ||
| She came up with Mondo as the beginning to 2000, and there we go. | ||
| They were off to the races with the name. | ||
| It seems like it should be harder than that. | ||
| She had a large inheritance that she had gotten, and that was what was running the magazine, so it was kind of her baby to say that sort of thing. | ||
| So her inheritance was Mondo. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So regarding the nature of the zine... | ||
| I'm going to give myself minus five points for that as well. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
| You are correct. | ||
| Regarding the nature of the zine... | ||
| All about fairness. | ||
| Quote, in issue number five in 1992, Nagel, who was one of the editors, accidentally transposed the names of avant-garde musicians Glenn Bracca and Elliot Sharp on the cover, rendering them Glenn Sharp and Elliot Branca. | ||
| Since Sharp and Branca weren't household names, few readers noticed. | ||
| But Mondo obviously... | ||
| the piece mark dearie an explanation rather than yeah that'd be like getting oats and haul backwards rather than apologize mondo proclaimed the snafu uh intentional gracie and zarkov composed an essay about post post modernism and deliberate art damage or rather they scribbled notes on a napkin while out having drinks the outline was passed around the staff and the concept ended up as a collaborative two-piece manifesto on art damage called what do you say after popomo half of the time we were | ||
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trying to baffle people into thinking we were deep says hulk trans uh and having uh having it be a pop pop fluff rag at the same time it was paradise That sounds like paradise. | |
| That was their game. | ||
| Their game was, okay, we got these two names wrong. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Instead of saying we got these two names wrong... | ||
| Let's devise an entire philosophy around why getting these two names wrong was the exact correct thing to do. | ||
| Done! | ||
| I love them! | ||
| Mondo 2000 for 20,000 more years! | ||
| While being fucking high as shit on designer drugs and weird experimental chemical compounds and shit like that, they had no serious pretense. | ||
| I love them. | ||
| Yeah, they're amazing. | ||
| I want to work for Mondo 2000. | ||
| Are they still hiring? | ||
| They actually are. | ||
| They just did a Kickstarter and they're coming back, but I don't think either of us are cool enough. | ||
| I think we got the end. | ||
| They need a couple of... | ||
| Squares to be like, this isn't factual! | ||
| They had an editorial policy, too, where it's like, if you interview somebody, you can fight them if you want. | ||
| It was just like, I was reading this interview from people who worked there, and it was like, if you go talk to somebody and you don't like what they're saying, you can argue with them. | ||
| No other publication would allow you to do something like that! | ||
| Like, this is amazing! | ||
| These guys are a bunch of assholes! | ||
| They pretended that they were quarterly, but then magazines would never come out. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
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It would be seven months. | |
| There's no way you could afford to put out that magazine. | ||
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It's amazing. | |
| It's fucking amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Please give me a large inheritance. | ||
| I will make you a way better magazine. | ||
| So a Mondo party might... | ||
| This is a quote from that article about their history. | ||
| A Mondo party might find a time travel expert being interviewed in one room. | ||
| People playing word association games in another. | ||
| Six people fucking in the third room. | ||
| Others experimenting with weird mental mind stimulation games. | ||
| Groups quietly chatting in conspiratorial whispers. | ||
| Or Bart Nagel and virtual reality theorist Brenda Laurel leaping into the air to see if they could do a complete 360 turn without falling down. | ||
| Rude pornography or Japanese animation videos flickered on monitors. | ||
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Frottage? | |
| That's when you put your dick in a dick. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| That's what I was... | ||
| Just double-checking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A journalist from GQ might have been taking a piss on the front lawn. | ||
| One creature would trap people for entire evenings in conversations about how Sir Francis Bacon was actually William Shakespeare. | ||
| I've heard those conversations before. | ||
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They're exactly as fascinating as that party sounds. | |
| Look, everyone's fucking high out of their mind. | ||
| The editor of the magazine and some weird theorist are trying to spin around and make a 360 without falling down. | ||
| They're describing this like, this is fucking edgy stuff. | ||
| I would give them a loan. | ||
| God, this is so boring. | ||
| Business loan, your plan is approved, my friend. | ||
| So the guys behind Mondo were really big on just making shit up. | ||
| Quote, in 1993... | ||
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What? | |
| In 1993, Bart Nagel rattled his peers with an editorial inspired by artist Jeffrey Kuhn's theory of image appropriation. | ||
| Either steal it and manipulate it, wrote Nagel, or use it blatantly under the fair use doctrine. | ||
| Nagel practiced what his editorial preached with the cover of issue number 10, in which he superimposed a photo against a background stolen from the cover of another magazine. | ||
| Nagel was immediately savaged in trade journals as the antichrist of art directors. | ||
| He retaliated with an editorial in issue number 11, which is where this Arthur Corker quote comes from, by the way. | ||
| ...about a new technology that works on... | ||
| He works on the DNA level to detect microscopic, recognizable patterns in images. | ||
| He asserted that the technology encoded patterns that were invisible to the naked eye, but detectable no matter how much an image was scanned or used. | ||
| He further claimed that in one year hence, all scanners and copy machines would contain a built-in chip to detect these codes and notify a national computer image bank of every duplication by modem. | ||
| the computer would then automatically debit your Visa account. | ||
| I tried to make it more and more absurd by saying these scanners would be hooked up by neural net computers, which could actually detect if you were scanning someone's style. | ||
| And then a lot of photographers were actually excited about this and that Richard Avedon and Annie Leibovitz had already offered No! | ||
| Annie! | ||
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Annie Leibovitz! | |
| Come on! | ||
| They were already offering to donate their proceeds from the style theft to a photo assistance group called We're Creative 2. God damn it! | ||
| He just made all that shit up. | ||
| Of course he did! | ||
| And it caused a huge stir. | ||
| Everyone started writing the messages like, Annie Leibovitz and this guy, Avedon, wrote messages like, are you serious about this? | ||
| You fucking came with me? | ||
| He was tricking people. | ||
| They were tricking everybody. | ||
| They were trolling like crazy. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| I love them. | ||
| So there was the other thing. | ||
| I can't remember what the name of the band is, and I feel really bad about this. | ||
| It's called Mondo 1999. | ||
| There was a band that U2 sued. | ||
| I can't remember what the exact circumstances of it are. | ||
| It's called U3. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this band, I think actually they were like just a local punkish band or whatever. | ||
| And they ripped off some of U2's stuff and their album was actually called U2. | ||
| And then The Edge and U2 tried to sue them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because they were like, guys, fucking... | ||
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Come on. | |
| And they almost destroyed them. | ||
| Like, aggressive litigation. | ||
| And so, as Mondo 2000 got really popular, U2 requested to be interviewed by them. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| That was a bad idea! | ||
| Bono! | ||
| Fucking Edge! | ||
| Come on, guys. | ||
| You can't just run into a Mary Trickster's band without getting your ass kicked. | ||
| And Are You Serious was friends with the band that got sued by U2. | ||
| That can't be real. | ||
| So what he did... | ||
| How is that possible? | ||
| What he did was he set up the interview, and without the Edge knowing... | ||
| Had the guys from the band interview him about how they had stolen various elements of the videos they used on stage at their live performances. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Like, basically talking about them doing exactly what they had sued this band for doing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then halfway through the interview, he came in and was like, Hey, this is the band that you sued. | ||
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He was just like, What the fuck is this anarchy? | |
| This is amazing. | ||
| So then Queen Mu, who is the financial runner of it all, she refused to publish the article or said, we don't want to do this, this isn't right, so are you serious? | ||
| Quit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because that's definitely what he would quit over, yes. | ||
| It created a whole bunch of trouble, and that was sort of the beginning of the end of their run. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But they are fucking amazing. | ||
| That's delightful. | ||
| I love finding stuff like this that I had no idea existed. | ||
| They're just like, ah, damn it, I wish I was hip to that. | ||
| When I was younger. | ||
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No shit. | |
| I would be so much cooler now if I had grown up with that, but I lived in Missouri. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
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Oh, right. | |
| We're still watching this. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
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...that free humanity cannot afford to let psychopathic technocrats with delusions of grandeur repeat the mistakes of their forebears, because it is highly Oh, is that what you did? | |
| We found the Toda. | ||
| In the 20th century. | ||
| And now they are promising to deliver an invincible tyranny that will dwarf their past exploits. | ||
| In the days of World War II, there were sovereign nations and armies to stand against Hitler's final solution. | ||
| Once world government is in place, no one... | ||
| A lot of people just getting off trains going to work. | ||
| Those are prisons. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| So there's a bunch of FEMA camps. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| There are FEMA camps. | ||
| Yes, I know. | ||
| So the proponents of the FEMA camp relief generally base their concerns on House Resolution 645. | ||
| This is a bill by the Homeland Security Department establishing emergency centers to house populations and provide humanitarian aid in the case of natural disasters or emergencies. | ||
| If you want to speculate wildly and let paranoia run rampant, you can do that with this, but the actual text of the resolution and stated intent is something very rational and benign, and something that were there to be horrible emergencies, And these didn't exist. | ||
| These same dumbass patriots would cry, bloody murder! | ||
| Why didn't they provide somewhere for us to all live? | ||
| Also, the only role that FEMA even has in all this is that the country is broken down into regions that FEMA covers. | ||
| Because that's the only reasonable way to do it. | ||
| Why would you have a FEMA center in every state when there aren't really as many emergency risks? | ||
| It's not evenly distributed among states. | ||
| In terms of earthquakes, floods. | ||
| There's no floods that are going to happen in Oklahoma. | ||
| Are you saying that Idaho isn't as important? | ||
| No, it's not that it's not important. | ||
| Well, then it seems unfair to me. | ||
| It's just that fault lines and coasts have a very high relevance. | ||
| We need to put all of our hurricane specialists in Idaho. | ||
| The only reality there is to internment camps in America is that of incarcerating minorities that we've seen to be a threat based on their ethnicity. | ||
| The Japanese in World War II, and then also the Native Americans in the 1930s at the Trail of Tears. | ||
| Don't remember that. | ||
| And then in the 1860s, the Long Walk. | ||
| There's a lot of instances. | ||
| Can't remember those either. | ||
| No, certainly not. | ||
| Beyond that, there's only one instance of this, and that's Rex 84, which is short for Readiness Exercise 1984, which is a plan that was put together by Reagan and Oliver North, and then FEMA director John Brinkerhoff. | ||
| Sounds trustworthy. | ||
| The plan called for putting anti-war protesters, civil right groups, union supporters, and minority immigrants in camps because of the disruptive effect that they were perceived to have on the right-leaning political status quo and the larger American capitalist business interests. | ||
| The plan was never put into action, but it's the only example outside of those fucking racist ones I just brought up that any president has ever put together in terms of an actual plan of putting dissenters in a camp. | ||
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And just for keeping scores purposes. | |
| That one is absolutely also one of the racist ones. | ||
| Somewhat. | ||
| I mean, there are the minorities and immigrants involved, but it's also about union organizing. | ||
| It's also about anti-war activism, which isn't necessarily along racial lines. | ||
| No, it's not necessarily along racial lines. | ||
| But if you get rid of all of those people, Dan, what are the people you have left? | ||
| But I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you. | ||
| But if you look at the text of Rex 84, one of the triggering events that they were talking about is like, who's going to be mad if we invade South America? | ||
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Right. | |
| Like that sort of thing. | ||
| I was like, well, those are the people we'll need to round up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so it was literally directed at liberals, anti-war people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then union people have always been annoying to business interests. | ||
| Well, also Reagan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So it's interesting that there's no documentation, there's nothing concrete in the world of... | ||
| Liberals trying to create these camps. | ||
|
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No, in fact, it's almost uniformly and unilaterally the opposite of that, isn't it, Dan? | |
| It seems that way. | ||
| But that's what you get so much mileage out of crying the victim. | ||
| Maybe we should do that. | ||
| Have we considered rounding up all the white nationalists and just, like, putting them in a camp? | ||
| I think you're starting to. | ||
| I think it's probably a bad idea. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| No method is off the table. | ||
| Have we considered it, though? | ||
| These dark builders intend to release a string of man-made bioweapons plagues. | ||
| Each one worse than the last. | ||
| There's no citation for this. | ||
| He just says that they're going to do that. | ||
| There's literally no reason to believe that that's the case. | ||
| While at the same time expanding the police state to enforce an orderly extermination of the population. | ||
| All in the name of fighting invisible terrorists. | ||
| I would hate it to be chaos. | ||
| And the Georgia Guidestones stand to death. | ||
| Why are we there? | ||
| Back to Georgia. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because Georgia is on my mind. | ||
| To have a two-class system where the underclass are forced to live as slaves in tiny enclosed cities. | ||
| While the elite enjoy the land of the earth, evolve into superhumans with the aid of advanced implantable technologies. | ||
| Live eternal lives. | ||
| Weird way to end this one. | ||
| This is the promise. | ||
| Given to the inner members of the New World Order and the agenda of the Bilderberg Group. | ||
| Was that what this was about? | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| We should have done this in two chunks. | ||
| We should have done this never. | ||
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This documentary is not good. | |
| Oh shit, what's this? | ||
| It's still going on! | ||
| No, you ended it! | ||
| You just ended it! | ||
| What is this? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| This is the post-credits sequence. | ||
| This is where Nick Fury is going to show up. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| Is Nick Fury going to show up? | ||
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Okay. | |
| To expose the globalists by traveling to Istanbul, Turkey, the site of Bilderberg, 2007. | ||
| So he can once again not break in. | ||
| This is how I will. | ||
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This is how I will. | |
| Bangin' music. | ||
| Jim Tucker, thank you for coming on, my friend. | ||
| It's always fun. | ||
|
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Jim, tell us what you saw today when you were out at the Ritz. | |
| Four stars. | ||
| Go home and tell your mother. | ||
| We were at the Ritz-Carlton. | ||
| It looked like a typical Bilderberg scenario. | ||
| They had the armed guards all around the place. | ||
| They had platoons of cops in formation waiting for disbursement. | ||
| They also had cops all the way around the building. | ||
| And they had all those high-tech things where every member can hear whatever spoken in any language. | ||
| Instantly translated into his own language. | ||
| What the fuck is he talking about? | ||
| Has he just read the Hitchhiker's Guide and thinks the Babelfish is real? | ||
| The Babelfish is real. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| The Babelfish is real. | ||
| Oh, oh, I see what you're saying there. | ||
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Alright. | |
| No. | ||
| I did a bunch of research on this because I was fascinated. | ||
| I was like, is that possible? | ||
| No, he's talking about the things in the United Nations where you see people with the big things in their ears. | ||
| No, because there's a person talking into those. | ||
| I know that. | ||
| You know that. | ||
| That's what he thinks is happening. | ||
| So look at this. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| I'm looking at this. | ||
| I'm looking at your hand. | ||
| So here's the problem with this. | ||
| This technology can never exist with our current... | ||
| What we have in front of us. | ||
| Because here's the problem. | ||
| Too many languages sound fucking similar as shit. | ||
| There's cognates that exist. | ||
| There's false cognates, words that sound very similar but aren't the same. | ||
| There are like bear, bear, and bear. | ||
| What are you going to do with that? | ||
| What are you going to do with that with a weird translator? | ||
| Get context clues? | ||
| Now you need artificial intelligence. | ||
| You're getting aggressive at me. | ||
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I have not started a universal translation technology yet, Dan. | |
| So the other problem that it comes down to is idioms. | ||
| You're never going to be able to translate idioms. | ||
| So you have this weird... | ||
| You can translate idioms as easy as a bear can go outside and pee on your mom's face. | ||
| See, the CFR is going to have trouble with that. | ||
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I get you, but they're going to have trouble with that. | |
| So I looked into this, and it's really fascinating because there's a couple of startups. | ||
| That exist out there that are trying to make this technology real. | ||
| I'm sure none of them have the name Babel anywhere near there. | ||
| Actually, I don't think they do. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| The one that I watched a video of, I actually don't have the name here, and they don't fucking deserve a plug, because I think they're a scam, quite frankly. | ||
| And even if they're not, I don't support what they do. | ||
| So what it is is this bizarre technology. | ||
| It's a handheld device. | ||
| And so let's say you're in Japan. | ||
| You're like... | ||
| Where is a karaoke bar? | ||
| And then you hold it up to somebody. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It feeds back, where is a karaoke bar, in Japanese to them. | ||
| And it's a whole video of Japanese people being freaked out by this machine talking to them. | ||
| Because understandably, it's like, that's a little weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But here's the problem. | ||
| The video doesn't show any moments of, like... | ||
| Them responding? | ||
| Well, because it doesn't translate the other way. | ||
| It doesn't translate the other way? | ||
| No. | ||
| What's the fucking point of it? | ||
| It doesn't work both ways. | ||
| That doesn't make any sense! | ||
| Right, but it's just so you can be heard, not... | ||
| You don't have to listen to any of their fucking Japanese bullshit. | ||
| It's such nonsense. | ||
| It's a disgraceful way to pretend you're immersing into a world while disrespecting it while being in it, you know? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think it actually is... | ||
| I think it's denigrating to the idea of travel. | ||
| But also, a lot of these businesses, not just this one, I found a bunch of them. | ||
| There's a bunch of apps and startups that are trying to work this out. | ||
| None of them work. | ||
| No, it's a badass idea. | ||
| And a lot of them are crowdfunded, and as we all know, most ideas on crowdfunding... | ||
| Some of them aren't real. | ||
| Some of them are like, here's an idea, give me money, and then you never get the product. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So there's a bunch of stuff like that that sound too good to be true. | ||
| Anyway, what Jim Tucker's describing doesn't exist. | ||
| He's making this up. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But it might be the same hat. | ||
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Okay. | |
| It is definitely the same hat. | ||
| I thought the lines were red earlier, but it might have been the light. | ||
|
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So they didn't keep up with it Really great day to model this guy I'm done with my notes. | |
| The end of this is fucking hilarious. | ||
| I'm done with my notes. | ||
| Except to say Jim Tucker can fuck himself. | ||
| Rest in peace. | ||
| Rest in power. | ||
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Nah, fuck. | |
| Nah, fuck. | ||
| Tell Alex I would have cut a lot of this. | ||
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Because English is not a word. | |
| That was an old man not understanding his language. | ||
| He had that fucking weird machine. | ||
| He's an old man walking across the street poorly. | ||
| Proving nothing. | ||
| Is Bilderberg meeting here this weekend? | ||
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You can look this way. | |
| We had my two personal cops following me today. | ||
| I was not aware of it because my nose is always sticking to a camera, my jaws are always But the TV crew said, those guys are going to follow you. | ||
| In their car, followed us out to the hotel. | ||
| Then they identified the two cops in plain clothes, not business suits, but sports shirts and so forth. | ||
| I would follow him around just to fuck with him. | ||
| That would be hilarious. | ||
| Let's do that now. | ||
| I want to photograph him. | ||
| You are, aren't you? | ||
| He's not going anywhere. | ||
| It makes our job easier. | ||
| Yeah, let's go hang out in his group. | ||
| They're very likely to build a bird voice. | ||
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They're very likely to be a bird voice. | |
| John Elkin, owner of Fiat and a fellow Bilderberger, thought that they could take a stroll off the ground without being noticed by the commoners. | ||
| Was that Garfunkel? | ||
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Could be. | |
| This Bilderberg attendee sneered at our camera. | ||
| That's not a sneer. | ||
| This carload of kingpins gave the media a murderous look and seemed shocked that they would dare point a camera in their direction. | ||
| That's a carload. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's three. | ||
| Anything more than two is a carload. | ||
| Strongly disagree. | ||
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Alright. | |
| Yeah, you got them, guys! | ||
| They just drove away! | ||
| What a boring fucking... | ||
| In 2007, the Bilderberg Group received the heaviest global coverage in its history. | ||
| Jim Tucker witnessed press conferences attended by hundreds of members of the media and a new generation of info-warriors. | ||
| Where are those at? | ||
| Because they are not in this documentary. | ||
| They are tracking the elite, no matter where they hide. | ||
| Great. | ||
| There's more crazies. | ||
| Hooray. | ||
| Now, Kim, my governor, Rick Perry, it's in the front of the Dallas Morning News. | ||
| The headline reads, Texas Governor Rick Perry to attend Bilderberg. | ||
| What does it mean to have the governor of Texas in the Dallas Morning News just admitting he's going to Bilderberg Group? | ||
| It means he's a potential president, even as the obscure governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton, lost his virginity at the Bilderberg meeting in Baden-Baden, Germany in 1991, and he's elected president the following year. | ||
| Is that when he lost his virginity? | ||
| Now, if he goes nowhere in a run from the White House in the years ahead, they'll drop him like an old shoe. | ||
| They do that often. | ||
| But officially... | ||
| Bilderberg considers Governor Rick Perry a potential president of the United States. | ||
| Yes, it's a violation of the Logan Act, for which Bill Clinton's White House was fined $300,000, which means the taxpayers paid it. | ||
| When Perry returned to Texas for Istanbul, we were determined to hold him accountable for his treasonous actions. | ||
| That's his house. | ||
| It might be the steakhouse. | ||
| Eh, who cares. | ||
| Shocked this is still going. | ||
| This end is so funny. | ||
| If you had the end, you would already have ended it by now. | ||
| This is so funny to me. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| We don't want our world, our water, our power plants, our entire infrastructure turned over to the now world order. | ||
| And we tell you now, the people are rising up and learning what you're doing, and they're angry, and they're tired of it. | ||
| Stop enslaving us. | ||
| Stop setting up tyranny. | ||
| Stop going along with the New World. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Two in the morning? | ||
| No, it's probably just when it's dark enough to look like night. | ||
| I'm telling you we're not going to put up with it. | ||
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While the way of the republic, we shall prevail. | |
| Death to the new world order. | ||
| Death to the new world order. | ||
| So, real quick... | ||
| Alright, so the whole lead-up was right... | ||
| Also, this was edited by Rob Jacobson. | ||
| Rob, you should never work again. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Rob Jacobson has since left InfoWars and has called Alex Jones a sellout and a shill. | ||
| Yeah, please don't ever... | ||
| He has abandoned the InfoWars fold. | ||
| Don't... | ||
| Just... | ||
| Abandon filmmaking. | ||
| Yeah, because this is terrible. | ||
| But the real true comedy of the end of that is, first of all, just the cut to Alex alone with a bullhorn. | ||
| Fucking hilarious. | ||
| But then with the context that we have from 2018 now, it's even more funny. | ||
| Oh, isn't it Perry? | ||
| I love him being Trump's secretary of energy. | ||
| I support the hell out of him. | ||
| Rick Perry, we will not stand for you going to Bilderberg and destroying our sovereignty, you piece of shit! | ||
| Nope, never. | ||
| Never gonna happen. | ||
| God damn it, so stupid. | ||
| None of this means anything! | ||
| No one cares! | ||
| Nothing is real! | ||
| There are no sides! | ||
| There is only fucking whatever Alex Jones wants or does not want at any given point in time. | ||
| Nothing is meaningful. | ||
| Everything is dead. | ||
| But shout out to Graham. | ||
| We're all fucking... | ||
| Shout out to Graham Reynolds for the... | ||
| Oh, Graham Reynolds. | ||
| Crushed it. | ||
| As far as sound design goes, I would put this up there. | ||
| Strong stuff. | ||
| Strong stuff. | ||
| Will we nominate you for an Oscar? | ||
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Oscar? | |
| Sure. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Golden Globe. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| No idea who those guys are. | ||
| Michael McWhirter and Glenn Dill? | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| Never heard of them. | ||
| Alex? | ||
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I know him. | |
| Rob Jacobson? | ||
| Gone. | ||
| Graham? | ||
| Killing it. | ||
| Wait, wait, no! | ||
| Now that I find out that Rob has mixed and mastered the audio for this, I don't know. | ||
| Now I'm back on board. | ||
| The audio production on this is great! | ||
| I'm telling you, Rob Jacobson's great, except for... | ||
| Editing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Should not be editing. | ||
| But it's Alex's fault. | ||
| It's all Alex's fault. | ||
| Additional music, Rob Jacobson. | ||
|
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Hold on. | |
| One of the song's names is DSCH, or Dish. | ||
|
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Dish. | |
| Dish. | ||
| Also, voiceover recorded and edited by Rob. | ||
| That's not great. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| Yeah, no, that's no good. | ||
| Camera operators, a lot of them. | ||
| Rob was, of course, there as well. | ||
| Still photography, Daniel Estelin. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Interviewer of Alien Guys. | ||
| Oh, they took some of his stills. | ||
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stills I got it Michael Kaufman did some research. | |
| That's great. | ||
| I'd love to see this. | ||
| Violet Jones. | ||
| Who's that? | ||
| That is his ex-wife, Kelly. | ||
| Oh, hey, Violet! | ||
| She goes by the name Violet sometimes. | ||
| That might come up later. | ||
| How you doing? | ||
|
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*laughs* | |
| Special thanks to Jim Tucker, Dr. Michael Kaufman, Mike McWhirter, Glendale, Paul Dornone, David Dees, Mike Nelson, Rob Jacob, wait, Mike Nelson of MSD3K? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I thought that said Dan Drees for a second. | ||
| I got very confused. | ||
| Also the Alamo Draft House. | ||
| Oh, yeah, but they've been supporting sexual assault for a long time now. | ||
| Blueprint for global enslavement. | ||
|
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Prison. | |
| Ah, ah, ah, ah. | ||
| Jordan, we did it. | ||
| Jordan, you're never going to believe this. | ||
| We are about to finish the clock in time. | ||
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Part one of Endgame. | |
| The clock in time, right now. | ||
| What are we at? | ||
| Nine hours, eleven minutes. | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| It's only fitting. | ||
| You know, we didn't get paid for this, right? | ||
| You know that, right? | ||
| We got paid in our policy wonks, love, and the donations. | ||
| We support it very much, and we thank you so much. | ||
| This has been brutal and very painful. | ||
| And most of it, honestly, the pain on my end has been for you. | ||
| I feel mostly guilty about making you do this. | ||
| Because for me, I could sit here and just do a voiceover of, hey, this is a lie. | ||
| Let's tally up the scores here. | ||
| I think you won because you're kind of biased. | ||
| Zero, ten, five. | ||
| Okay, you got ten. | ||
| That's not great. | ||
| I think I deserved a few extra points. | ||
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God damn it. | |
| No, no, I did. | ||
| Fifteen. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| All right, I won. | ||
| At least it was close. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| So that means that I get to absolve you from any guilt of forcing me. | ||
| Oh, that's your prize? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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I got 15 points. | |
| You got 10 points. | ||
| That's very nice. | ||
|
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You got a lot of wrong references. | |
| Some of them sucked. | ||
| I'm just glad both of us know something. | ||
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You knew all of the facts and ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba. | |
| And how to read paragraphs of shit. | ||
| I knew how to turn Gerald Maguire into a Jerry Maguire reference immediately. | ||
| And that, I feel like, is our two big contributions to the show. | ||
| That might be our new intro. | ||
| I know a bunch of facts. | ||
| You know how to turn Gerald into Jerry. | ||
| That's what we each bring to the table. | ||
| That's exactly what we bring to the table, Dan. | ||
| You have nailed it. | ||
| Nine hours in at 1.30 in the morning. | ||
| I could not get my hair to fucking agree with me at all. | ||
| And now that I have to look at it in the fucking camera, I'm furious. | ||
| Jordan, we gotta wrap this up. | ||
| Oh, do we? | ||
| Yeah, we do. | ||
| Oh, I feel like we live here now. | ||
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Oh, god damn. | |
| Alright. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Jordan, do you have any closing words about Endgame? | ||
| Because I think I get what your take on it is, and that is that it really amounted to nothing. | ||
| We just did nine and a half hours when this is over, I guess, of nothing. | ||
| There was nothing. | ||
| You learned nothing. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| Weirdly enough. | ||
| You learned about Mondo 2000. | ||
| No, that was dope. | ||
| No, I think more what I took away from it. | ||
| Like, of course, it's an inexplicable documentary. | ||
| Why it exists is bananas. | ||
| That it exists is crazy. | ||
| That it exists the way it does is even more insane to me. | ||
| Because it doesn't have a through line. | ||
| It is narratively so inconsistent. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| No. | ||
| But it's all about the globalists. | ||
| Like, if you just have, like, a guy under a desk going... | ||
| Between any clip of anybody saying anything and you've got the Endgame documentary. | ||
| Do a fucking hour on the roads. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Right! | ||
| Just do that. | ||
| You could do an hour on the roads! | ||
| I'm sure he could. | ||
| You really could! | ||
| And that's it, because that's a really interesting story. | ||
| That story has a start, it has a finish, it has a middle, and then you can have a narrative end point where they do or they don't build it. | ||
| And if they don't build it, then you get that whole thing. | ||
| Like, you start where, okay, well, we need this because of all the NAFTA stuff. | ||
| So you build this whole story, and then you get to them building it, and you're like, well, the bids came down, and then this foreign company, and that throws a wrench in the whole thing, because now how do you feel about it? | ||
| Before, you wanted all those roads to be there, but now this foreign company's trying to own it. | ||
| So now you have this conversation there, and that's a lot of drama, that's a lot of tension. | ||
| And then eventually you get to the point where, well, now it's come for a vote, so somebody wins and somebody loses, and we've got to figure out what to do there. | ||
| And then they won or they lost, and that's the end. | ||
| Congratulations, that's a documentary. | ||
| And instead, this documentary was like, hey, you remember how rich people, and then Rhodes, and then watch out for disease, and then there's a guy in China, Mondo 2000, and everybody's having a great old time. | ||
| Quotes aren't real. | ||
| Fuck you, Rick Perry! | ||
| Like, I don't... | ||
| What was the point of this movie? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| There's nothing. | ||
| I mean, the only point of it is to exist as a time capsule of what Alex Jones put out as, like, the foundation of his career in 2007. | ||
| That now, 11 years later, we can look back and be like, you've betrayed literally everything you think you're about. | ||
| You have no moral center. | ||
| None. | ||
| There is absolutely nothing that you don't contradict on a... | ||
| I mean, my big takeaway is that, like, through doing the research of this, of course I expected to find stuff about, like... | ||
| You know, the foster kids and stuff like that would make me furious. | ||
| I expected that, and I expected him to lie about X, Y, and Z, different thing. | ||
| What I didn't expect, what I could never have predicted when I started doing this research, was that he wouldn't cover his bases. | ||
| I never would have expected it would all be in Carta and site reference here. | ||
| Like, I never thought that the bibliography would be so bare. | ||
| You have said that to me. | ||
| 15 times at least, and I still lose my shit every time you say the word Encarta. | ||
| It's absolutely crazy to me that this documentary exists. | ||
| And documentary again, in quotes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It exists. | ||
| It's been viewed by millions of people. | ||
| I'm against that. | ||
| A bunch of people believe what he's saying, and none of them have ever checked and looked at the bibliography and been like... | ||
| That's a problem. | ||
| That is not an acceptable list of sources. | ||
| Because everyone who's watching it assumes like, oh, he can back this up. | ||
| No, he can't. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| There's nothing there. | ||
| This is all magic. | ||
| It's all assertions. | ||
| It's all just nonsense claims. | ||
| Alex Jones' documentary Endgame, and I assume most of his other Endgame. | ||
| If you are a policy wonk and would like to donate a thousand million more dollars for us to do another documentary, please keep it. | ||
| Do not give your money anywhere near Dan. | ||
| He'll make me do this again. | ||
| Please let me out. | ||
| The Obama deception coming next. | ||
| Please, somebody help me. | ||
| Get me out of here. | ||
| What I'm saying is I never I would have imagined, and none of these people who listen to it would have imagined. | ||
| Oh, here's the point I was trying to make. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Daniel Estelin's book that he made about the Bilderberg Group, where he cites as a source this guy who talks to aliens and is part of the Pleiadian Earth Defense Force and all that shit, and he's taking his word about whether or not Prince Barnard is a Nazi, and not mentioning also... | ||
| This guy who writes a bunch of books about aliens and shit like that. | ||
| That's the small-scale version of Alex Jones and his problem with sourcing. | ||
| Like, all of this is just things he's claiming. | ||
| It's all being asserted. | ||
| And it has no foundation in reality. | ||
| Except for the stuff that is about, like, eugenics being fucked up. | ||
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Or... | |
| It is a mess that a lot of our history intersects with Nazis. | ||
| Like... | ||
| That stuff is true, but no one's hiding that. | ||
| It's uncomfortable to talk about, so maybe people don't bring it up all the time, but mainstream sources exist where you can find all of that information. | ||
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Right. | |
| So, what I'm saying is, fuck Alex Jones. | ||
| I mean, like, legitimately, I have spent, I would say, a hundred hours. | ||
| Probably researching this documentary. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And now nine plus recording this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So officially you have been paid 91 cents on the dollar. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
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Maybe that. | |
| Because I'm low-balling in terms of the research stuff. | ||
| And it's valuable to me because of all of the side stuff I've learned. | ||
| I value that I've learned... | ||
| I didn't know a whole lot about Serbia. | ||
| I didn't know a lot about the 1990s Serbia situation, and I didn't really know about the beginning of World War I. So to have an excuse to research that stuff is really valuable to me, and I appreciate that. | ||
| I appreciate you affording me that opportunity to do that research. | ||
| Now is not the time to be magnanimous. | ||
| But fuck you. | ||
| You lie about everything. | ||
| And like we talked about six hours ago, it's clearly intentional. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There is no way that this is an accident. | ||
| There's no way that if you are making a documentary where you use a fake quote by Hitler or you use a fake quote by David Rockefeller, there's no way it makes it to the final cut of your documentary with the citation. | ||
| Fill this in later. | ||
| There's no fucking way that passes muster for you making a documentary unless you're like, I know I can't prove this. | ||
| No one's going to check on it. | ||
| The same way that Ron Paul, there's no way that he didn't write that racist shit in his fucking newsletters. | ||
| And that's the point I've been trying to get to. | ||
| Bring him back to the minute! | ||
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Fuck Ron Paul! | |
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
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Fuck Ron Paul! | |
| Anyway, this is tough to sum up, but there's a lot of feelings that I have. | ||
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I think the thing that I... | |
| For me, like, really fucking hammered at home. | ||
| Just like you were talking about. | ||
| His fakeness? | ||
| Just like you were talking about. | ||
| The conversation of, is he stupid or is he doing this deliberately and lying about it? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If you're stupid, you can get away with putting this documentary up there. | ||
| You're dumb. | ||
| If you are putting quotes on screen, hanging them as, like, This is a big fucking deal. | ||
| Knowing full well these were not said by anybody related to what's going on here. | ||
| Then that goes over from being you're dumb to being this is on purpose. | ||
| Not least of which, because guess what? | ||
| There wasn't a fucking release date on this. | ||
| There wasn't a deadline. | ||
| This wasn't like, oh, we've got $250 million of studio money built into this thing. | ||
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We gotta get this out the door by fucking spring of 2018. | |
| No, that's not how this is working. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| This is these assholes. | ||
| You might be wrong about that. | ||
| This might have been part of one of his money bombs or something like that. | ||
| There might have been something where he actually did have some artificial pressure to put it out, but that's still artificial pressure. | ||
| I still don't care. | ||
| Google... | ||
| Google. | ||
| Google a quote. | ||
| That could have been helpful. | ||
| That did exist in 2007. | ||
| First, advice to anybody making a documentary or anybody quoting anything. | ||
| Can I give my advice first? | ||
| Anybody quoting anything. | ||
| Try. | ||
| That's my basic piece of advice. | ||
| I think my larger problem is this. | ||
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A lot of people tried on this, and not all of them did. | |
| That may be our biggest issue. | ||
| I think whoever came up with it tried, the rest of them fucked it up. | ||
| So much. | ||
| Anyway, Jordan, more to the point. | ||
| You have to try to lie about quotes that badly. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| You have to be working on it. | ||
| It's intention. | ||
| But more than anything else, I appreciate you, and I thank you so much for doing this. | ||
| I know I dragged you into it to some extent. | ||
| I mean, the entire show, really, but also this. | ||
| What, am I going to jump out now? | ||
| This is a thing where... | ||
| Is now the time where I jump ship? | ||
| This is probably like a... | ||
| It'll probably go down in history as a classic example of asking too much. | ||
| And I appreciate you ordering pizza. | ||
| Stay tuned for our next episode. | ||
| Dan kills Jordan with his fucking computer screen. | ||
| Stay tuned for next episode. | ||
| It's going to be called Dan and Jordan Don't Record for a Week. | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| Stay tuned for your next episode. | ||
| This episode continues because Jordan doesn't know how to edit and kill Dan. | ||
| Stay tuned for our next episode just repeating over and over again for two hours. | ||
| We'll put a lot of scare quotes up. | ||
| Stay tuned for our next episode, an interview with Jim Tucker from The Grave. | ||
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He made up quotes about Bilderberg, so I'll make quotes up about him. | |
| Stay tuned for our next episode, the only man who can replace Dan Friesen. | ||
| That's right. | ||
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In studio, we have Alex Jones! | |
| How's it going, everybody? | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| I'm an idiot. | ||
| I admit it. | ||
| Great episode. | ||
| So, Jordan, we've come to the end of nine hours of this bullshit. | ||
| Have we? | ||
| I didn't notice. | ||
| How long was it? | ||
| We're about nine and a half right now. | ||
| I think you took this the hardest. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Dan, everybody, before you self-deprecate any further. | ||
| No, no, I'm saying emotionally. | ||
| I had a tough time there around hour seven and a half, but I came out of it. | ||
| But that was a low point for me. | ||
| I'm just saying that to me, the only person that I pity is not me, the listener. | ||
| Oh, I pity the listener. | ||
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Or you, the... | |
| Dan, who does the research and all this stuff. | ||
| I pity you, Dan, the editor. | ||
| You poor, poor bastard. | ||
| I had a lot of work ahead of me. | ||
| You're going to spend a lot of time on this, and I am so sorry for you. | ||
| Thankfully, I'll be fucking hungover as shit tomorrow as I do it. | ||
| I love you desperately. | ||
| Love you too. | ||
| But before we get out of here, because we've got to close this up, I must ask, who, from all of the weirdo characters in this documentary, Would you like to choose to tell them to go fuck themselves? | ||
| Now, let me run you down. | ||
| There's so many goddamn... | ||
| Let me run you down with some possibilities. | ||
| First of all, I want to say other names, but right now, all in my head is Smedley Butler. | ||
| He's a great guy! | ||
| His name is just so crazy. | ||
| Let me run you down some names. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Jim Tucker. | ||
| Daniel Estelin. | ||
| Great ponytail. | ||
| Michael Kaufman. | ||
| Michael Kaufman. | ||
| He's a piece of shit. | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, well, of course. | ||
| That other guy in Canada. | ||
| Wait, the kid or the older guy? | ||
| Well, there's the older guy and then the kid. | ||
| What about the older guy who's really benign? | ||
| The security guard in Canada. | ||
| The security guard seemed like a cool dude. | ||
| He seemed fine. | ||
| He seemed like he was having a rough day with this Alex Jones asshole fucking up his day. | ||
| What else you got? | ||
| I got Smedley Butler in my head again. | ||
| I know! | ||
| I think it's because you brought him up. | ||
| You can't get him out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Once you got the Smed, man, you're going to be dead. | ||
| I'd like to add you to the list of frontrunners. | ||
| That would be negative five. | ||
| I'm negative five right now. | ||
| Now it's a tie. | ||
| So I guess let's say your choices are Jim Tucker, Daniel Estelin, and Michael Kaufman. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Because Alex Jones is too obvious a choice. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Well, then I'm going to have to go with Michael Kaufman. | ||
| That piece of shit can go fuck himself. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Fuck that guy. | ||
| Thank you all for listening. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |