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#119: August 16, 2012

Dan had the best of intentions with trying to figure out what Alex Jones thought about the Slenderman so he could tell Jordan all about it. Unfortunately, it appears that Alex had no take on that, so Dan instead tells Jordan about the day where Alex goes real deep into board games and welcomes the most unlikely guest of all time onto the show.

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alex jones
10:04
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dan friesen
39:07
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jordan holmes
15:49
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richard belzer
02:05
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gerald celente
00:06
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pastor david manning
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
Hello, Alex.
unidentified
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
That is what we do.
Dan, we have an announcement, don't we?
dan friesen
We do, and that is that I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
And I don't know anything about Alex Jones, and we are going to be doing those two things in public.
dan friesen
Indeed, for the first time ever.
jordan holmes
On Saturday, January 20th.
dan friesen
Playground Theater, Chicago.
jordan holmes
At 10.30.
That is...
Do you want to give out the address?
dan friesen
Tickets still available.
unidentified
Unsure!
jordan holmes
Who knows?
dan friesen
Might be sold out.
jordan holmes
Could be sold out.
dan friesen
It's on the corner of Halstead and Belmont.
jordan holmes
Yeah, 3209 North Halstead.
It's Halstead and Belmont.
That's where we are going to be.
dan friesen
10.30 p.m.
I believe tickets are $5.
Might be able to sneak in.
Some people probably have a cop or two, maybe.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, who knows?
It is BYOB, though.
Keep that on main.
dan friesen
Right, right.
That's great.
We'll have some beers for folks.
Absolutely.
And also, we'd like to announce that good buddy, hilarious comedian Nate Burroughs will be opening up the show, doing some stand-up.
jordan holmes
Can't believe we got him.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a very busy schedule.
He is flying back into town.
unidentified
Nice.
dan friesen
I mean, not for the show.
unidentified
No, obviously not.
dan friesen
It just so happens the timing work out that way, but Nate is a hilarious dude, and he's my old partner from a show I used to run, and we're thrilled to have him on board.
It's going to be a great time.
You should come out if you can.
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Please, please come out.
dan friesen
If you don't, I understand.
Sonia over there in Sweden, I understand.
She doesn't have to come.
jordan holmes
She needs to be here.
dan friesen
Some of our Australian peeps, they don't need to come.
jordan holmes
I disagree.
dan friesen
You think they all need a charter flight?
jordan holmes
Frankly, it's more important for them to come because who knows when they'll get to see it again.
dan friesen
That's a fair point.
And to that extent, if you are around and you can come out, it means a lot.
And if people do come out, it will open.
Open up the possibility of us doing more of them in the future.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, you know, this first run is particularly important.
jordan holmes
I think what we're saying is, Sonia, if you don't get here, this is the last show.
dan friesen
It's on you.
jordan holmes
This is the last show.
dan friesen
It's on you.
jordan holmes
It's all you.
Everybody is going to be disappointed.
dan friesen
How dare you?
How dare you, Jordan?
jordan holmes
No, we love Sonia.
It's just a fun time.
dan friesen
You know who else we love?
We love some new donors.
That's someone we love.
jordan holmes
Perfect.
Great transition.
dan friesen
Clunky but smooth transition.
I'd like to give a shout out to one of our new donors.
Congratulations on becoming a policy wonk.
Cody?
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
We appreciate it so much.
jordan holmes
Congratulations, Cody Bellinger.
Great rookie for the Dodgers.
No?
dan friesen
No, I don't know who that is.
jordan holmes
He's a slugger.
He's about hit 38 home runs.
dan friesen
No idea.
alex jones
Very good.
dan friesen
Also, I'd like to give a congratulations to one of my dearest friends in the wide world, Nicky Gifts, for bumping it up.
He's now a globalist.
Nicky Gifts!
Congratulations on being a globalist, Nick.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
alex jones
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy shark!
dan friesen
Yeah.
Congratulations and thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much, Nick.
dan friesen
You're the best.
So, Jordan, I want to fill in the audience on how difficult this episode was to make.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
In advance.
jordan holmes
We're getting a lot of work done up top.
dan friesen
This episode today...
It was a disaster.
We met up last night, you and I. We had a couple drinks at the bar, going over plans for this live show and trying to figure out what are we going to cover.
And there were a number of possibilities, and the one that I was most excited about was a day, it was May 31st, 2014.
And what happened on that day was that Bo Bergdahl...
Got traded with some Guantanamo Bay prisoners.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And the Slenderman stabbings happened.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Simultaneously.
dan friesen
I got really excited about that possibility.
I was like, holy shit.
I looked over on a calendar, and it turns out that that was a Saturday.
So that means Sunday, when Alex Jones comes back to do his show, he's going to have heard of both of those things, obviously.
jordan holmes
He's got a chance.
dan friesen
I'm like, he's gonna talk Slenderman.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
This is gonna be the best.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And so I tuned it.
jordan holmes
And he's going to tie it in with Bo Bergdahl, because the Slenderman...
We did negotiate that deal.
We all know that.
dan friesen
No, the Slender Man was one of the Guantanamo prisoners that got out.
jordan holmes
Well, that's where we got into all this trouble in the first place.
dan friesen
Exactly.
I was hoping for something like that, and so I get back from the bar.
I'm a little buzzed.
Not super drunk, but I'm a little buzzed.
And I turn on that episode, and I'm like, this is the craziest thing in the world.
Because there's a lot of guests.
And what it is, is a murderer's row of Alex Jones fucking lunatics.
So we're talking Larry Pratt.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He's the head of the way more gun-loving NRA.
jordan holmes
Two.
Two gun-loving.
dan friesen
Citizens with guns or something like that.
They love it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we got that.
We got Paul Craig Roberts, who Alex Jones bills as the father of Reaganomics.
jordan holmes
He's the father of a thing.
dan friesen
He's ostensibly a survivalist type guy, and he just loves Russia.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So there's that.
Then, John Rappaport.
Holy shit.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Being billed as a media analyst.
jordan holmes
Yes, of course.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why wouldn't he be?
dan friesen
Then, cherry on top, Steve Pchenik.
I'm like, oh no.
jordan holmes
We got the whole crew.
dan friesen
I'm like, we accidentally stumbled into the motherlode.
They've got to talk Slenderman.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
What does Steve Pchenik think about the Slenderman?
jordan holmes
What does Steve Pchenik think about the Slenderman?
dan friesen
Or at least, what does he fucking think about...
Bo Bergdahl.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because that seems like that's in his wheelhouse.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's going to be discussed.
You know what they talk about?
Elliot Rodger.
The guy who ended up shooting up a bunch of people in California because he couldn't get laid.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That guy.
jordan holmes
So the whole time?
dan friesen
A lot of the time.
Well, I mean, Paul Craig Roberts doesn't have time for that BS.
unidentified
He's too old.
dan friesen
He wants to just talk about Putin being great.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
But John Rappaport and Steve Pachenik are both talking about how it was fake.
jordan holmes
Of course it was.
dan friesen
And it made me so bummed out.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so I went back.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not a live episode we want to do.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
That's a big pile of mass shootings or false flags is not a great live show.
dan friesen
Let's excuse all white crime.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
That sort of thing.
And so I went back and I listened to a couple...
jordan holmes
Our show is a celebration of white crime.
dan friesen
Well, at least pointing the finger at it.
But be that as it may, I went back and I listened to a little bit more.
I was like, what did Alex say the day after Elliot Rodger?
Because it was like a week earlier.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I'm like, did he call False Flag out the gate?
And not really.
But over the course of one episode, he does.
Anyway, I've learned a lot about his position on Elliot Rodger, and it's a mess.
But I was like, I can't use this for the live show, because no Slenderman, no Bo Bergdahl.
jordan holmes
Which is the entire purpose.
dan friesen
And now I've listened to like five hours of Alex Jones talking about Elliot Rodger, and I don't want to tell you about it.
alex jones
No, I don't want to hear about it.
dan friesen
If I play those clips for you, you'll storm out.
It'll be Arpaio all over again.
jordan holmes
It was bad enough to talk about all of the other fucking mass shootings that we've had to talk about.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I was like, fuck, what am I going to do?
So I texted you, I was like, I can't do this, I can't use this episode.
So Slender Man's out.
That's no good.
We'll have to find something else.
But for today's episode, to keep up the pace, I was like, just send me a fucking random date.
Send me a random date.
You send me a Saturday.
I'm like, fuck.
jordan holmes
Because I'm a failure.
dan friesen
This is a mess.
jordan holmes
You put so much disappointment in that you sent me a Saturday.
dan friesen
It was August 11th, 2012 is what you sent me.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And so that's a Saturday.
And thankfully, because it's a Saturday, a bunch of other episodes near that date show up in the search for it.
And I see the 16th of August, and I'm like, I'm looking at this guest list, and I'm like, we might be able to make this work.
And so, without spoiling some guests, we have truly one of the most bizarre things that has ever happened on Infowars that we have accidentally stumbled into.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
And it only, it's actually this episode, which we're going to be going over, August 16th, 2012.
Two of the weirdest things ever happen, and one of them involves a guest.
The other involves a special report that Alex does that is bananas.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
I cannot wait to tell you about this.
unidentified
Fantastic.
dan friesen
So let's just jump into it.
jordan holmes
Let's get into it.
dan friesen
This is how Alex Jones starts the show.
This is literally the beginning of the show.
alex jones
All right, ladies and gentlemen, I just got off the phone with Dave Mustaine literally 20 seconds ago.
And so I'm going to have to just give these directives here to my folks live on air.
Come on in.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
I need to talk to you as soon as we go to break because Dave Mustaine is going to put a statement out through us.
I didn't press him to do that.
He just wants to put a statement out through us.
I'm sure you've seen the 500 articles.
ABC, CBS, everything, New York Daily News, about his comments over in Asia.
He got back a couple days ago to the U.S. about the shootings could be staged by Obama, and they're taking him out of context and making a big deal out of it.
So we need to get that clip, because it was you who put together that radio interview, right?
And, you know, the clip I didn't put out just because I didn't want to, even though it had been that big national news, I just kind of made that decision myself.
If I do anything, I hold back sometimes.
People think I agree.
jordan holmes
How are you still going?
dan friesen
He's having an off-air meeting on air.
unidentified
What is this?
dan friesen
It's because he had to talk to Dave Mustaine.
jordan holmes
I just got off the phone with Dave Mustaine.
dan friesen
Dave Mustaine.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Great.
So this should introduce that this is a very Starfuckery Alex episode.
He's very into how he knows celebrities.
Right.
Because no one remembers this.
What happened?
No one remembers.
jordan holmes
If I understand correctly, what happened at this time was Dave Mustaine came out and said, Obama false flagged some shootings.
dan friesen
Well, that's what you just took from the clip.
You don't remember that.
alex jones
I don't remember that at all.
unidentified
Why would I remember that?
dan friesen
No one remembers Dave Mustaine news.
So here's the headline of this story.
Dave Mustaine pauses Megadeth concert to share his insane conspiracy theories about the president.
jordan holmes
Already, stop drilling.
I'm in.
You hit oil, my friend.
dan friesen
Right.
On August 7th, on stage in Singapore, Mustaine added a new wrinkle to his legacy.
In a video shot and posted to YouTube by a fan.
unidentified
His legacy!
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
In a video shot and put up to YouTube by a fan that was picked up a week later by a metal news website called Blabbermouth.net, Mustaine pauses between songs to chastise a fan for chucking a Chuck Taylor in his general direction.
This stage is holy, what's wrong with you?
That's the quote.
Talks a little bit about the weather, then accuses the President of the United States of masterminding recent massacres at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, and the Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin.
Quote, my president, here he mimes himself, making himself barf, like all serious speakers of truth to power do from time to time.
I'm reading this from a Grantland article.
unidentified
Yeah, I was going to say, a little bit of side-eye.
dan friesen
My president is trying to pass a gun ban, so he's staging all of these murders, like the Fast and Furious thing down at the border in Aurora, Colorado, and all the people that were killed there, and now the beautiful people at the Sikh temple.
Pause.
God.
I don't know where I'm going to live if America keeps going the way it's going, but it looks like it's turning into Nazi America.
Right.
jordan holmes
Okay, this is fun, because it's strange to me that he would both be like, Obama's false flagging all of us to get rid of guns, while at the same time being like, the Sikh people are a beautiful and wonderful people.
We don't see that type of acceptance.
And conspiracy theory in the same sentence.
dan friesen
It's rare, but Dave Mustaine is a rare breed.
jordan holmes
Dave Mustaine is an interesting megadeather.
dan friesen
So, I mean, false flaggery aside, because that's nonsense, Fast and Furious is a really complicated thing, but it's...
jordan holmes
Wasn't that the one where they...
Actually gave guns away.
dan friesen
Well, they allowed guns to be taken across the border by straw cutout people who were clearly buying them for illegal purposes in Mexico.
And ostensibly the idea was that they would have these illegal guns and then they'd be able to roll up the people who ended up taking possession of the guns because they had faith in their own ability to use surveillance and it wouldn't end up...
jordan holmes
To which they later discovered that they should not have had faith in their capabilities whatsoever.
dan friesen
Right.
And the reason that I say that it's incredibly complicated is I've read a bunch of the emails and the documents that have come out about it that people use to say that it's like a false flag and a setup.
And Eric Holder and the DOJ were just trying to blah, blah, blah, trying to end up false flagging around in order to get gun bans across.
And it just doesn't...
It doesn't really work all that well for a number of reasons.
The first of all is that though Fast and Furious, as it was known, started in 2009, it was based on a continuation of something called Operation Wide Receiver, which was started in 2006 when Alberto Gonzalez was in charge of the DOJ.
So this is a long-standing operation that's been happening down in the southwest of America, and it had worked.
To some extent.
jordan holmes
Still not a great thing when you're dealing with the government running guns.
dan friesen
Nope.
I am not happy about it at all.
I am absolutely not happy about it.
But at the same time, I do understand the motivation.
I think it's an incredibly misguided way to do things.
But from the sense I get, there is a bit of like, okay, this is just dumb law enforcement.
jordan holmes
Well, it seems like...
dan friesen
It's not false flaggery in order to get people killed and demonize guns.
It's just...
Shouldn't have done that.
jordan holmes
It seems like they were like, okay, well, we do stings with prostitutes, so this is kind of the same thing, right?
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
This makes sense.
dan friesen
And I'm against those, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
But be that as it may, I understand people who are against it, because...
I'm fairly against it, too.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But I also understand the reasoning for, in extreme situations like that, using maybe unconventional law enforcement techniques.
At the same time, I don't know.
I can't unpack it.
All I know is that Alex Jones is wrong about it.
alex jones
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
And then Eric Holder did.
He may have lied about it under oath or may have lied about what he knew.
And I'm not here to defend Eric Holder either.
jordan holmes
Oh man, I love our government.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Doesn't matter what team you're on, you're going to lie under oath.
dan friesen
He might have, I don't know.
But there's also, you know, there's a possibility that this stuff was going on and he was unaware of it because it predated his time there.
I don't know how the organization of these, like, DOJ goes.
Yeah, that's probably true.
I mean, in any workplace, there's projects that are going on that the CEO doesn't know about.
Yeah.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
I don't know what the compartmentalization of everybody's jobs are.
So I don't know how malicious the lie was, how much it was just omission or whatever, but all the emails that talk about how maybe we can get this to help make regulations about long gun purchases and stuff like that, those are all after the fact.
It's not a propaganda campaign to demonize gun owners, but be that as it may...
You might not also remember what that Sikh shooting was.
jordan holmes
I do not remember that one.
dan friesen
That was one that people forgot about pretty easily.
That was in Oak Creek, Wisconsin.
There was a gentleman by the name...
Gentleman's way too fair.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There was a guy named Wade Michael Page, who was a 40-year-old white dude, and he walked into a Sikh temple, and he shot six people and wounded four other people.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
They were all pretty old, too.
That was something that made...
It's not like age really matters when you're murdering.
But it made me really bummed out because everyone was between 39 and 84. So he's killing a bunch of just old people trying to practice their fate.
unidentified
It's a weird way to put that.
jordan holmes
It's not like age matters when you're murdering.
unidentified
It's not.
dan friesen
I don't think it does.
jordan holmes
No, it doesn't.
It's just for some reason that sentence tickled me.
dan friesen
And so it turns out that Wade Michael Page had very deep connections to white supremacist groups.
jordan holmes
Sounds reasonable.
dan friesen
He'd been involved in a number of what you might call white supremacist white power bands.
Bands?
Yeah, rock and roll outfits.
jordan holmes
Was he a bassist in Megadeth?
dan friesen
Nope.
He founded the band End Apathy in 2005.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And played in the band's Definite Hate and Blue-Eyed Devils.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So they're trying to take that back?
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess so.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
He was an army dude.
He was in the army.
And he ended up getting discharged, a general discharge, neither honorable or dishonorable, because of a pattern of misconduct.
jordan holmes
Seems like it should be dishonorable, then.
dan friesen
Drunk driving and going absent without leave.
That should be a dishonorable discharge.
jordan holmes
I call that dishonorable, yeah.
I'm going to say dishonorably discharge him.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so, you know, he ended up becoming radicalized at some point.
Maybe already was when he was in the army and then fell in with white supremacist groups and ended up going to a Sikh temple and killing...
Six people and injuring others.
Four others.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
And the thing that's really super wild is that, like, this part blew my fucking mind.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not a positive, but amazing.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So there's a guy, Lieutenant Brian Murphy was the cop who ended up, you know, showing up.
And he ended up, I think it was his gun who ended up, like, gut shooting.
Wade.
Wade ended up killing himself after he got shot by the cops.
But this guy, Brian Murphy, ended up getting shot by this dude.
This guy.
This Wade asshole.
He shot him 15 times at close range.
jordan holmes
Wait, he shot the cop 15 times?
dan friesen
15 times at close range, including once in the face and once in the back of the head.
And the dude survived.
jordan holmes
Jesus!
dan friesen
Yeah.
Brian Murphy, Lieutenant Brian Murphy survived.
unidentified
I told you people can withstand a surprising number of gunshots.
dan friesen
It's nuts.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so Seeks for Justice, a New York-based group, pledged a $10,000 award to Murphy.
Two Sikh residents of Yuba City, California, donated another $100,000 to Officer Murphy and praised his bravery.
jordan holmes
My God.
dan friesen
So that's just kind of a nice piece of how good these people are who respond to such tragedy this way.
And I'm not saying all Sikhs, but in this situation, it's very nice that that guy didn't have to die.
I don't know.
I don't even know what to say.
But anyway, that is what Alex Jones and Dave Mustaine is saying as a false flag.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And you notice, again, mysteriously, it is a white supremacist guy murdering minorities.
jordan holmes
White people have never done that.
dan friesen
It's very fascinating to me that that never seems to be real in their world.
So, anyway, let's get on to this next clip.
We get some more about Dave Mustaine, and then Alex makes a dumb prediction.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
You name it, it's being covered.
Hundreds of newspapers.
Dave Mustaine was in Asia a few days ago.
He's now back in California.
Formerly Metallica, of course, founder of Megadeth.
And Dave Mustaine talked about the fact that he thinks Obama may have staged...
The shootings to get our guns and bring in a police state in Aurora and in Wisconsin.
So in Colorado and there.
And it's a big national story right now.
Also, the writings on the wall, they're getting ready to dump Biden right now.
Black people are going to be put back in chains if Romney gets elected.
So that's big news.
That's coming up.
dan friesen
That didn't happen.
jordan holmes
I don't think that happened.
dan friesen
No, it didn't happen.
So, Biden.
Still in play.
He did not get dropped.
But again, he's talking about the Wisconsin shootings being specific.
That's part of what Mustaine is talking about.
And Mustaine brought up that, even in the Singapore comments that he made.
It's fucking wild.
So anyway, there was another shooting.
Or there was another incident.
And Alex gets into it a little bit here.
It's very different, very different situation.
alex jones
The attack on the Family Research Council not being called terrorism.
Obama isn't making statements on somebody saying he was mad about Chick-fil-A and Christians.
They went there and shot some people.
unidentified
Well, you're not going to call Dave Mustaine a terrorist.
alex jones
So there you go.
Of course, people with guns were able to stop him.
dan friesen
Is a lie.
jordan holmes
I was gonna say, that sounds very false.
dan friesen
That is a lie.
So, one of the reasons...
I mean, it's bad, and I don't support the actions of this guy who went into the Family Research Council with a gun.
But one of the reasons...
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're against all people going all places with guns.
dan friesen
But one of the reasons that it's probably less severe and maybe not seen as a horrible act of terrorism is that no one was killed.
I don't think anyone was even seriously injured.
And it wasn't a good guy with a gun.
Someone wrestled the gun away from the guy.
jordan holmes
It was just a good guy.
dan friesen
Or a good person.
A good guy who eventually had a gun.
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
But it wasn't a good guy with a gun that stopped him.
It was someone who was brave enough to step up.
And I mean, I don't think that you need to really...
I don't know if it's healthy to glamorize wrestling a gun away from somebody lest people think it's a smart thing to do.
But had he not have done that, it probably would have been much worse.
jordan holmes
Much worse, yeah.
dan friesen
And so I think the reason is just the severity of it is much lower than a Sikh temple, which is obviously targeted for their religious and ethnic minority, and that multiple people were murdered.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And a police officer was shot 15 fucking times.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one's more terroristic.
dan friesen
And the guy was a member of a hate group.
jordan holmes
That seems like a big part of being a terrorist is having an entire ideology behind you.
dan friesen
And you could easily make the argument, and I'll go along with you halfway at least, that the guy who went into the Family Research Council probably had some sort of, like, maybe he was part of a left group.
Maybe he was part of some left group.
jordan holmes
Possible.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I don't know either?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I read an article, it didn't seem like it.
It just seemed like it was a guy who didn't like people supporting Chick-fil-A.
jordan holmes
That's a little bit of a strong reaction, and that's coming from me.
dan friesen
Well, you know, it has to do more with opposition to gay marriage and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course, of course.
It wasn't about Chick-fil-A.
dan friesen
It was about the billboards, which we know are brilliant.
jordan holmes
Very successful marketing campaign.
dan friesen
So, if you recall correctly, when we talked about Alex's coverage of the Chick-fil-A billboards, he once told you that if you understand this billboard, We'll understand everything.
So now, in the middle of this episode, Alex Jones plays a special report.
And I want you to try and guess what this special report is about.
I'm going to play this first clip and see if you have any idea what he's about to talk about.
alex jones
Alex Jones here to cover a topic, an issue, that is one of the most important I've ever discussed.
dan friesen
Any ideas?
jordan holmes
How Dave Mustaine should never have been kicked out of Metallica?
dan friesen
This is a pre-recorded thing.
He had not gotten off the phone with Mustaine yet.
jordan holmes
One of the biggest issues that he's ever talked about.
dan friesen
Do you want another clue before you guess?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Okay, here you go.
alex jones
This information is very closely held by governments and elite corporations.
They do not want you understanding this.
jordan holmes
Okay, so it's both governments and elite corporations.
dan friesen
Yes.
unidentified
Okay, so I'm guessing it's something about how it keeps us all in chains, right?
jordan holmes
How it keeps us down?
dan friesen
No, that's what got Biden out.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Fluoride in the water.
dan friesen
Interesting guess.
I'll give you another clue.
alex jones
Large swaths of the global population have no idea the real geopolitical paradigm that we're living in today.
Today we will look at the real forces, the real players, in the battle for 21st century global hegemony.
dan friesen
Hegemony.
unidentified
Hegemony.
dan friesen
Do you have any idea what he's about to talk about?
Do you have any idea?
jordan holmes
Technocrats.
dan friesen
I mean, he's always talking about technocrats.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, smallpox.
I don't know.
I don't know.
This is vague.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Let's see if this next clip helps you out.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I'm going to break down who really rules the world, how they control the planet.
And how they are trying to usher in a world war that has really pointed at the general population.
jordan holmes
Globalists?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, duh.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, okay.
dan friesen
But what do you think is about to happen?
jordan holmes
I think it's about to become, I think it's about to be the dumbest, like, here's the issue.
Where's the beef was the most successful ad campaign Wendy's has ever had, and this red-haired bitch, nuh-uh.
dan friesen
This is the most important information Alex has ever had to break down.
It's closely held information.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And it has to do with World Wars and the global hegemony that is all acting against all of us at all times.
Do you have any idea?
jordan holmes
No, of course not!
dan friesen
Okay.
Get ready for this.
alex jones
To begin my illustration, I have three different board games here.
Chess, the classic game of risk, as well as monopoly.
We're going to look at these systems of stylized warfare.
And between these three systems, we find the truth of the system that we're living under.
unidentified
So he's doing an analysis of board games.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay.
unidentified
Alright.
jordan holmes
The most important issue he's ever talked about.
The game of risk.
And the game of Monopoly.
dan friesen
Why doesn't he throw life in there, too?
jordan holmes
I mean, I feel like it's obvious.
dan friesen
Now, in this game, you have to have kids, and that's important, because otherwise we're gonna have a birthrate cliff.
alex jones
Let's talk about Settlers of Catan.
jordan holmes
It's all about resource management, and you know that's what they're trying to control.
dan friesen
Now, in life, boys are blue, girls are pink, and there's a reason.
alex jones
This isn't Candyland, everybody.
jordan holmes
We're not gonna have fun doing this.
dan friesen
Now, you all wanna be rock stars.
I understand that, but sometimes you gotta be a doctor.
alex jones
It's much more stable.
jordan holmes
If you hit a chute, Or a ladder.
alex jones
You're gonna go right back to the bottom.
dan friesen
This is crazy.
This is so crazy.
I can't even begin to explain to you how much I was like, huh.
Like, it indicates to me a couple things.
One, Alex needs to fill time.
And then two, he has to think his audience is really stupid.
Like, the idea that it's like, okay, I'm gonna explain my bizarre theories about, like, globalists vis-a-vis Board games.
jordan holmes
I'm just liking how it's like a comic comes up with an open mic riff.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They're at their place and they're just kind of looking around at shit.
dan friesen
Oh, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
I bet I could talk about board games for a while.
Let me take a look at that.
dan friesen
This is Alex did too much super male vitality on a board game night.
And he was sitting there like he was yacked out of his mind.
jordan holmes
I don't want to play hearts again!
dan friesen
He's on cocaine.
He's just like, alright, now listen.
Monopoly is what tells you.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Then Rob Deuce.
Sitting there like, I gotta go.
I'm not done.
jordan holmes
That's Patton Oswalt's bit about being on LSD and like, let me explain Lucky Charms to you.
Now, the rainbows and the clovers.
They're sweet and they're good for you.
Traditional pagan symbols.
But the wheat stuff is a cross and it's all that stuff.
What they're trying to tell you is that the path to good is bland and tasteless, but the path to evil is sweet as hell.
dan friesen
You know what, though?
That's smarter.
jordan holmes
Yeah, fair enough.
dan friesen
In this next clip, Alex Jones starts his analysis by talking about chess.
And I'm not talking about the Murray Head musical.
That includes the great song, One Night in Bangkok.
unidentified
Alright.
dan friesen
This is the game of chess.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But I guess that musical was about the game of chess.
Anyway, here's Alex.
alex jones
To begin with, I'm going to use a Lego chess set as an illustration to break down primitive forms of government, warfare, and domination.
unidentified
If you look at this set, you notice there are two sides.
alex jones
There is the red, and there is the green, or there is the black, there is the white.
From the beginnings of civilization more than 6,000 years ago, until about 1700, this was the model of warfare between nations.
There were occasional alliances, but by and large, warfare and politics was carried out in a very two-dimensional way.
dan friesen
So he's already off base a little bit there.
The idea that for, like, until very recently, alliances didn't play a big role in stuff.
That's absurd.
alex jones
Nope.
dan friesen
That's absurd.
I mean, all kinds of tribal nations, they have the right to be called nations, would make very complicated arrangements between each other.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
This is just reductive.
jordan holmes
It goes a long way back, the phrase, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
dan friesen
Right.
And even if you consider, like, he's not even talking about, like...
Eastern world.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because that's even more crazy.
jordan holmes
Well, then he'd have to understand what go is, and that's never going to happen.
dan friesen
Right.
So he's already started off his analysis with a painfully reductive view of conflict over time.
jordan holmes
He's a foreign policy wonk.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Let's see what else he has to say about chess.
alex jones
One area that we see from the ancient chess model that is still used in statecraft by the globalists is the fact that sometimes wars were launched, in the case of the French and the British, against each other when they had rebellions at home.
They soon learned it was a way to turn inner anger at the state against a foreign state and to reduce the population of young males that you didn't have jobs for.
dan friesen
How does that relate to chess?
unidentified
All the pawns.
jordan holmes
They're just freeloaders off the economy.
dan friesen
They're unemployed.
jordan holmes
That's why you lose all the pawns up top.
That's why you sacrifice all your pawns.
Because then you know that fucking the manufacturing base is going to be strong.
That's what I learned from chess.
dan friesen
You've got to protect the priest class.
jordan holmes
I learned about prosperity from chess.
That's basically what he's saying.
dan friesen
I mean, I guess if you want to do a really wild interpretation of chess.
You could say that, but I don't think that relates to...
Jobs.
jordan holmes
Well, you know, you're trying to get rid of your religious powers.
If you're the globalist, you want to get rid of your bishops.
They're the ones who are causing all of this insurrection.
Your knights, they're the ones who are going to lead the charge against you.
And your pawns, that's just people that, you know, the deplorables, that's people you get rid of.
So you know what?
I'm over on Alex's side right now.
I think the globalists have been using chess as their model for global domination for thousands of years.
dan friesen
Probably right.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
alex jones
In truth, for more than 300 years, the globalists have been financing multiple sides of wars, knowing that conflict destroys nations and gets countries deep into debt.
dan friesen
It's hard for me to take this seriously when it's the same voice he uses to sell Beyond Tiny Tangerine, but...
alex jones
And that is the key.
They're financing both sides.
And we see this being pioneered by people like the Rothschilds starting in the 1700s and 1800s where they would finance sometimes three or four different factions and it didn't matter who won because all of them were in debt to them and had societies that were wrecked after the wars.
jordan holmes
They were not allowed to pass go.
And collect $200.
dan friesen
We'll get to that in a second.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But we already discussed on the last episode the anti-Semitic nature of his relationship with Rothschild.
jordan holmes
And with Chess, apparently.
dan friesen
His belief in anti-Semitic slanders about the history of their family business.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Shall we say.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And so it's difficult to take too much that he says about them seriously.
And also when you look at this history that he's talking about, about funding both sides.
of a war, that is true if you believe that everyone is on the same team and they're all globalists.
Right.
unidentified
Because if you talk about, like, Fred Koch or Prescott Bush or Henry Ford supporting the Nazis in World War II, if you conceive of them on the same side as people who supported the Allied powers, then...
dan friesen
I guess they're controlling both sides.
jordan holmes
See, there you go.
dan friesen
But if you don't, if you look at them as conflicting operations that have intertwined business interests so they don't kill each other or whatever because they still are running businesses.
jordan holmes
Right, I guess.
dan friesen
But aren't working together in some weird one-world globalist operation.
jordan holmes
Unless they are.
dan friesen
But they're not.
jordan holmes
Unless they are.
dan friesen
Okay, fine.
But this also goes to, like, just the history of, you know, kind of stupidly supporting factions in wars you have no business being in.
Which is something that, unfortunately, we have been involved with a lot.
jordan holmes
Pretty much.
It's not like we have a dearth of coups that we've financed and taken over.
dan friesen
Nope.
Tons of them.
jordan holmes
And our gun manufacturers often sell to everybody.
Like in The Last Jedi when Benicio Del Toro makes a very good...
I haven't seen it.
dan friesen
But, I mean, Guatemala is an example where we funded people we shouldn't have, necessarily, in bad ways.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The situation in Bosnia during World War II is insanely an example of that, and Churchill was a piece of shit about it.
jordan holmes
I mean, you talk about fucking Kissinger, and then you get into real terrible territory.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Kissinger directly supported death squads.
dan friesen
He has a fair point if you believe the central premise, and that is...
That there are globalists and they're all working together.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
If you don't believe that and you think the world's a little more complicated and you think that there are people on both sides running operations and scams and stuff like that to further their own interests that are at odds with each other, then you start to look at the world, I think, in a more realistic way.
jordan holmes
Now, Dan, this is the first time...
dan friesen
And that's where it doesn't work in a board game.
jordan holmes
This is the first time I have come into this show with something prepared for you.
And I'm going to play you a recording of how I explain how Henry Ford, Kissinger, and Chairman Mao are the three main players in the globalist empire.
This was the time period where I can't keep this riff going.
dan friesen
That's fine, because at this point, Alex Jones moves on to Risk.
alex jones
Next, let's look at the game of Risk.
These are primitive attempts to distill down human conflict and domination into a game you can play in a few hours.
Militaries all have basically equal resources, equal numbers of troops, and to enter into the equation some type of random probability, we have dice and we have co-pilot.
dan friesen
Are you reading the rules?
unidentified
What are you doing?
dan friesen
What does that have to do with anything?
jordan holmes
Whose plan was it where it's like, I can't understand global conflict.
Can we boil it down into a game I can play in a few hours?
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
Well, then there we go.
dan friesen
But we're going to need to have dice and cards.
alex jones
No!
dan friesen
So that's his analysis.
jordan holmes
I don't understand random!
dan friesen
So that's how he brings up Risk, and then he immediately does this.
alex jones
There is no discussion here on looking at the real model that we are under today.
We're going to come back to Risk here in a moment, but first let's move to the game of Monopoly.
dan friesen
Let's.
That's all he says about Risk at this point.
jordan holmes
Do you know what?
There are a lot of video game...
There's a lot of game streamers on Twitch.
He's got a whole other career he could just pivot to of just him...
dan friesen
Describing board games.
jordan holmes
...playing Monopoly.
unidentified
Alone.
jordan holmes
I would watch that.
unidentified
Alone.
jordan holmes
I would watch him yell about Monopoly by himself.
dan friesen
One of these days I'm going to beat the bank.
So, in this next clip, Alex Jones starts talking about Monopoly and immediately fucks it up.
jordan holmes
Let me explain to you why bank errors in your favor are actually the issue that the Fed has.
Then we need to defund it and go back to the gold standard.
alex jones
In the game of Monopoly, you have different economic groups, or four players, that attempt to engage in economic warfare against each other and then be able to create a Monopoly or a single...
dan friesen
Already fucked it up.
It's Atlantic City.
jordan holmes
It's just New York City.
dan friesen
It's Atlantic City.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay.
dan friesen
Already fucked it up, Alex.
Very famously, that game is not based on New York.
But good analysis so far.
Good analysis.
You know, it's those sorts of things that are like...
I mean, I...
When you don't know the basic pieces of something, and then you're trying to deeply analyze it so it fits your version of the world, it makes me think that you don't care.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
You don't care enough to understand your subject matter.
jordan holmes
Again, he threw this shit together whenever he was sitting in his study like, oh, I don't have enough time to fill.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
To understand the real system...
jordan holmes
My kid always wins at Monopoly.
dan friesen
God bless, kid.
alex jones
It's important to combine monopoly and risk with an overlap.
of strategy and chess.
And this is a key part of the real system we live under today.
The founder of the Rockefeller dynasty famously said that competition was a sin.
dan friesen
Now this is a real quote.
Right.
But it is fairly misunderstood, I believe.
From what I can tell, a better way to sort of unpack that quote.
The idea that if everybody's competing for the same thing, there's no money in it.
And the quote is actually in the context of supporting innovation and changing the model of what you're doing.
In order so you're not competing with people.
Everybody can succeed then.
If everybody is trying to innovate and constantly doing other things, they won't be in direct competition with each other.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which is in itself a sort of spiritual version of competition, but it's really just about like, if you and I are trying to do literally the exact same thing, and my win takes away from you, it's not good for either of us.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because I am going to either be motivated on keeping you down, or one of us has to lose.
It's nonsense.
jordan holmes
At the same time, he was part of a trust, so...
dan friesen
No, true, true.
jordan holmes
I don't really give a fuck.
dan friesen
That quote in particular, though, it's like that Mao Zedong's political power comes from the barrel of a gun.
Right.
It's just these quotes that are taken.
Everybody knows them, but they don't really know the context of them.
Alex is just misusing this.
I mean, whatever.
That's, again, that's Monopoly is in New York kind of stuff.
It's just a willful lack of him engaging with the things he's talking about.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
So here's the last clip.
jordan holmes
Now, let's design that board game, though, right?
So we combine Monopoly plus Risk, and then we just drop a chess board on top of it.
dan friesen
There's an overlay of chess.
I'm in.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So here's the last clip.
It's a 10-minute special report, but the last four minutes are him just rambling and it has nothing to do with board games anymore.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so here's the last clip where it's sort of pertinent to the report.
alex jones
So out of these three board games, Monopoly best describes our modern system.
But in itself is only two-dimensional.
You see, the private Federal Reserve that's owned by six private banks, Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan, Bank of America, and others, they always win.
You're playing their game.
You think you're battling it out for houses and apartments and for Park Place and for the electric company and for the railroad and for the top hat and for the fashion show.
But it's the bankers that control the politicians.
They've got the get-out-of-jail-free card.
And they've got control of the money.
The treasury works for them.
So the bank always wins.
What happens if a country won't sell?
What happens if an African nation won't play the Monopoly game?
Well, then you've got to play chess.
Does it want to be part of the modern bankster system based in London and New York?
Well, then that's where risk comes in.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I mean...
dan friesen
This is cockamamie.
jordan holmes
I kind of don't...
unidentified
Disagree with what he's trying to say, I guess?
jordan holmes
It's silly and stupid.
dan friesen
He then launches into a long thing about, like...
Paying Al-Qaeda to destabilize countries and all of his narratives like that.
jordan holmes
Well, that's the chance card.
dan friesen
Sure.
But, like, the part of it that doesn't work is you've established that you're trying to use board games and you keep using board game references and being like, it's just like this.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
You don't pay people to invade countries and risk?
jordan holmes
It's the top hat who's controlling your game.
dan friesen
You're playing it for the top hat.
And the bank doesn't win in Monopoly.
The bank is not a character in the game.
Like, there's no point at which...
jordan holmes
Not in the game you're playing.
In the game that the banks are playing, they're winning every game of Monopoly, Dan.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, I guess so.
jordan holmes
They're taking a profit off of you buying the game Monopoly.
This whole thing goes all the way back to the Rockefellers, who are globalists, and let me get back into Chairman Mao.
This is where we get into the game of risk.
dan friesen
You know what Chairman Mao's real name is?
Milton Bradley.
Great leader, Milton Bradley.
I just don't know, man.
I just don't fucking know.
I don't know what he's doing.
But it tickled me a little bit.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
This is a delight.
dan friesen
Yeah, so we're done with that.
Now we get back.
jordan holmes
It's fun to go back to whenever he was just crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
It is kind of refreshing in some ways.
But, I mean, it's still...
jordan holmes
I mean, admittedly, it is just crazy, but...
Prior to this, we got white people don't commit crimes.
dan friesen
A literal Nazi white supremacist shot up a Sikh temple and he's like, it was probably fake.
But that one guy who didn't kill anybody who went into the Family Research Council, that guy was a terrorist.
Because he was going up against their side.
That sort of thing.
And that's a point I want to bring home.
Real fucking clear.
Is that even back then, he still suffered from the same problems that we complain about now.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just, it wasn't, no one cared about him back then.
jordan holmes
You know?
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Like, he didn't have a real dangerous effect on people.
jordan holmes
And he didn't have the affiliation to the point of subservience with a racist asshole monster.
dan friesen
Petty tyrant.
Yeah.
So now we jump out of the board game analysis, which is unfortunate, but trust me, the rest of the special report isn't worth it.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
So we've put the board game away.
dan friesen
And so now we get back to star fuckery about Dave Mustaine.
jordan holmes
We've broken down the Legos.
dan friesen
Yes.
And in this next clip, we find out, why did he play that 10-minute special report that made no sense?
jordan holmes
It's a really good question.
dan friesen
Here's why.
alex jones
There are thousands of articles.
Thousands.
NBC News.
dan friesen
There aren't thousands.
alex jones
You name it.
Megadeth's Dave Mustaine says Obama is behind deadly shootings.
And my name's been brought into this because he talked about the fact that he thinks the president's a criminal and a liar a few weeks ago on the show.
I just interviewed Dave Mustaine.
That's why we aired a few of our special reports the last 15 minutes.
jordan holmes
Because I was doing it then.
alex jones
I just went over to the TV side and did the interview with Dave.
And it's a video interview.
He's on the phone.
It's video.
We're transferring it over.
It's about five minutes long.
We will air it here on the radio probably right before we go to movie star and TV star and researcher Richard Belzer.
dan friesen
Hell yeah.
jordan holmes
Movie star.
TV star, researcher.
dan friesen
Researcher.
alex jones
The Bells.
dan friesen
The Bells.
jordan holmes
You're not going to throw a comic in there?
Not going to throw a comedian in there?
dan friesen
You know what's fucked up, man?
He was the original opening comic for Saturday Night Live.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
He did audience warm-up.
He was in the first ever episode of Saturday Night Live as an extra.
jordan holmes
And that's where he began researching things.
dan friesen
He did.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, he's written a couple...
jordan holmes
It's because of Chevy Chase.
dan friesen
He's written a couple books about JFK.
He's written some UFO books, like conspiracy books.
I've read a couple of them.
They're fine.
They're decent writing.
He's at least a pretty engaging writer.
I'm not sure if I believe any of them.
But we're not going to listen to really any of Richard Belzer on the show because he's on and all it is is him talking about JFK stuff.
And for my money, of things that are covered on Alex Jones' show, JFK is the closest to real.
And it's not that interesting to me because Richard Belzer comes in with a lot of specifics and a lot of things that he's looked into and there's a lot of questions that he has.
And Alex really can't hang with the specifics and he just yells stuff.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it's not really all that fun.
So we're not going to listen to that, but a big shout out.
What's up?
Richard Belzer.
jordan holmes
How is it that you exist in all Law& Order universes?
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That's really the more important credit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
John Munch.
Best TV character ever.
How did you get on Arrested Development?
You were on The Simpsons.
That means cartoons and real life are the same.
jordan holmes
Are The Simpsons in Law& Order SVU?
dan friesen
My throat was starting to hurt, and Alex Jones' impression turned into a robot.
jordan holmes
Bite my shiny middle ass.
dan friesen
In this next clip, Alex combines a bunch of his narratives and turns them all into this weird booyah base of First Amendment complaints.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But it doesn't really make sense.
It has to do with these two shootings.
jordan holmes
Like a booyah base.
dan friesen
Yeah, it doesn't make sense at all.
jordan holmes
It's a cold soup.
What is wrong with you people?
dan friesen
So we have the Sikh temple shooting.
We have that Family Research Council shooting.
And they're all sort of combined into one thing along with Chick-fil-A.
This is a mess.
This is a cold soup mess.
jordan holmes
A cold soup is just ice cream gone wrong.
I think that's the truth.
unidentified
Quote me on that.
alex jones
People casing it, witnesses all saying four shooters.
dan friesen
Real quick, first-hand accounts generally are the most unreliable things in terms of tragedies like this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, witnesses are no good here.
dan friesen
No, generally in the heat of the moment, you misinterpret all kinds of cues and things that you see because you're in shock, your adrenaline is running over charge.
jordan holmes
Yeah, your brain goes haywire.
dan friesen
Yeah, so the idea that some people thought there were four shooters, to me, doesn't mean anything.
Especially since...
Investigation has been done.
unidentified
No one's like it.
jordan holmes
It's a lie.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
False flag.
alex jones
That's what was reported.
We need to look at this.
We'd be idiots if we didn't.
It's time to stop trusting the system.
Now, I'll tell you, this is breaking.
Just like with the Dixie chicks saying they didn't agree with the war.
They're trying to cancel his tours.
They're trying to persecute Dave Mustaine right now.
Like Chick-fil-A.
Because he's bad at chess.
You've got to support the First Amendment with these bullies.
Guy went in and shot up the Family Research Group, the Family Research Council, yesterday with a bunch of Chick-fil-A stuff saying he was mad at them.
Okay, these are terrorists.
You've got to support the First Amendment.
And we will have that exclusive Dave Mustaine statement.
jordan holmes
The First Amendment is the boardwalk of amendments.
dan friesen
The guy who shot up the Sikh temple...
unidentified
False flag.
dan friesen
But the guy who didn't kill anybody at the Family Research Council, terrorist.
jordan holmes
That was too false to be a flag.
dan friesen
Too false to quit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Hey, hey.
So then, First Amendment issues are the Dixie Chicks and Dave Mustaine.
jordan holmes
But not the Dixie Chicks.
Whenever the Dixie Chicks were doing that, he was very, very not happy with the Dixie Chicks.
dan friesen
I don't know, because he hates George Bush, too, though.
So, I mean, it's entirely possible.
I'm willing to believe he very well may have been against...
unidentified
Disagree.
jordan holmes
They were women speaking.
dan friesen
That is a compelling argument.
But I don't know.
I don't know.
Without going back to that, I am not willing to make a prediction because I would not be surprised if he supported the Dixie Chicks because he hated George W. Bush so much.
So that's possible.
I don't know.
But those two things are a little different than Chick-fil-A being like, we don't like gays coming in.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
First Amendment.
dan friesen
I don't feel like it is.
jordan holmes
No, it's super not.
It's discrimination.
dan friesen
And that's where the libertarian stuff gets muddied in with him.
Because, I mean...
Businesses are, like, you run your business and what have you, but it is a public space.
It's not a private space, necessarily.
jordan holmes
Let the free market decide.
If you want to put up a sign that says, no black people allowed, you know what?
The free market is going to be what takes you down.
It's definitely not going to be supported by all of your other racist friends.
dan friesen
These people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're not going to have Dave Mustaine getting weaved in on it.
And then the Dixie Chicks getting thrown in for no reason.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Dave Mustaine said...
That's a weird thing that Dave Mustaine also said in China at that concert was, have you guys been to this No Black People Allowed diner over there?
It's amazing.
dan friesen
Right.
And, you know, in the name of quote-unquote free speech, Alex Jones is saying that whether you agree with it or not, you've got to support Chick-fil-A.
You've got to support Dave Mustaine.
And I think that...
I don't see why he wouldn't make that argument based on the logic if someone did say no blacks are allowed in a restaurant.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
And that troubles me.
That troubles me.
jordan holmes
I didn't make up that argument on the fly.
That is one that you do hear from racists whenever they...
dan friesen
Oh, you mean libertarians?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
They're against the Civil Rights Act because they think it's encroachment on what businesses can do and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
No, libertarianism.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what it is.
dan friesen
That's what it is.
Yeah, it's a very wild system of...
jordan holmes
It's just like with this cake situation that's going to the Supreme Court of like, we don't have to bake you a cake because free speech, and it's specifically because you're gay, and you're like, ah, that's where we caught you.
That's where you're wrong.
You could have lied.
You could have just lied, and everybody would have known that it was discrimination, but we wouldn't have taken it to the Supreme Court.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
And actually, a question about literally this situation got Gary Johnson booed.
At the libertarian debates.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because he was like, I think they should have to make him a cake.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that's probably...
I think discrimination might be bad, guys.
I don't know if you know this or not.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is not one of those issues.
jordan holmes
It's one of those moments where it does look like Gary Johnson goes...
unidentified
Are we the bad guys?
dan friesen
It does.
And then it's all the added layer of like, he's probably high right now.
And you have this added like, oh man, that would be so scary.
You've got all these libertarians booing you while you're high.
So before Richard Bells or Hells Bells comes in, Alex has another guest.
A gentleman by the name of Gerald Salenti.
From the trends research, whatever.
He's a guy who comes on and usually just yells a bunch.
And, of course, it always usually revolves around a common theme, which is right here.
unidentified
The real is crashing.
gerald celente
The Indian rupee is in the toilet, and they're trying to stop people from buying gold.
unidentified
Oh, and you mentioned that Soros and Paulson are buying up tons of gold.
Oh, but they're brilliant.
I love his voice.
Oh, he's a gluten tumor.
Oh, you can't eat gold?
Oh, you can't eat gold?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
So, wait.
jordan holmes
Is Salenti...
Is he saying, like...
Alex, why aren't you giving me credit for calling all of this shit?
I'm smarter than Soros.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
He's talking about other people who are like, oh, now Soros is buying gold.
We should buy gold.
What about when we've been saying it forever?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Well, it's kind of a problem because you're on a fucking radio show that's run.
unidentified
Sells gold.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's run by, or it's broadcast by a network, Genesis Communications.
That is run by Ted Anderson, who owns Midas Resources, which sells gold, and he's on the show frequently selling gold.
And you always say buy gold whenever you're on the show, Gerald.
That's why.
Because you're part of a scam operation.
That's why.
It's not about the gold in itself, per se.
It's more...
jordan holmes
Oh, so when Soros scams people, that's bad, but then they say, Salenti!
dan friesen
Salenti!
jordan holmes
Salenti!
I don't remember my own name most of the time.
dan friesen
I would have the same complaints about George Soros if he was going on a radio show that was run by a gold sale operation and telling people to buy gold.
I would have the same complaint.
jordan holmes
That was actually the way he helped the Nazis.
He made up the whole story about that, and instead he had a radio show where he told Nazis to buy gold.
dan friesen
It was basically like Good Morning Vietnam, but in World War II.
jordan holmes
Yes, it was exactly like that.
dan friesen
Or like the tragic history of P.G. Woodhouse in World War II.
jordan holmes
Or Operation Dumbo Drop.
dan friesen
Sure, absolutely.
So I'm glad you like Gerald Salenti's voice, because you're about to hear a bunch of it.
In this next clip...
jordan holmes
I don't know how I feel about that.
dan friesen
Well, it's just about a minute and a half of what I'm going to describe as...
Gerald Salenti is running hot.
He is getting good.
He's having a rant.
He's in the middle of a rant about these globalists and what have you.
And then he's on a roll, and then he gets done with his rant, and Alex doesn't know what to do.
The end of this is very, very funny.
unidentified
Look, they're stealing at the top!
They're robbing us every day!
They stuck your mother's house.
She's out on the street.
Your father ain't got a job.
Your brother died in Iraq.
What are you, stupid?
You're ripping us off at every level and you're going to play it straight?
All of society is rotting out because it's rotting from the head of Obama.
It's rotting from the head of Bush and Cheney.
It's rotting like Rodney and Ryan.
And you know how I say, Alex, I've been saying it for years since you've known me, that these guys that everybody's sucking up and bowing down to are nothing more...
Then the class presidents and head of the student council.
And now they followed their career path.
jordan holmes
You got some deep-seated anger in high school.
unidentified
Then would Paul...
Little high school altar boy, Ryan.
It's great.
The altar boy and the guy that wears the magic underwear, the Mormon.
It's perfect.
It's right out of the presidential reality show.
Paul Ryan.
jordan holmes
He's spraying everywhere.
dan friesen
Hold on, though.
jordan holmes
He's spraying bullets all across this nation.
dan friesen
Because you had Romney, Ryan, right?
jordan holmes
Yep.
Bush, Cheney, Obama, you got them all.
They're class presidents.
That's who's killing us.
dan friesen
But do you hear what he said there?
He said, this is like a reality show president.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Interesting in hindsight.
unidentified
He's a big fan.
dan friesen
Interesting in hindsight.
jordan holmes
Loves reality show presidents.
unidentified
Voted by his classmates who are smarter than everybody else out there as high school kids as the brown noser of the year.
jordan holmes
I want to see him dispute a traffic ticket.
unidentified
It's there.
The class president.
A guy that never worked a day in his life.
Born on third base like Ronnie and thinks he hits a triple.
And people clack like little children.
All aboard, next train to Auschwitz.
That's where this country's going.
jordan holmes
You might have gone a little far for me.
dan friesen
Hold on, hold on.
You've got to...
It's unfortunate that you started laughing because you've got to hear this ball drop here.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
unidentified
All aboard, next train to Auschwitz.
That's where this country's going.
alex jones
Continue, my brother.
You are laying it.
dan friesen
Clearly the rant has come.
Long pause.
Continue, my brother.
jordan holmes
I zoned out there.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
What was that?
No, keep going.
Keep going.
Let me try and gather my thoughts again.
dan friesen
Gerald, I'm three quarters of the way through this Subway sandwich.
Keep it going, brother.
jordan holmes
Keep rolling.
Keep rolling.
I'll eat quick.
unidentified
I'll eat quick.
jordan holmes
It's like when they stop you at airport security.
You gotta snarf it down.
dan friesen
So, I mean, you know, sure.
Gerald's shooting on everybody.
jordan holmes
He's going to town.
dan friesen
But it got too good to him, and he threw it out to the last train to Auschwitz is coming.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
I can't take him seriously.
I can't take his voice seriously.
dan friesen
I love it.
jordan holmes
I know.
I'm delighted by it.
dan friesen
We have to use it sparingly on the show.
jordan holmes
He could say anything and it would make me laugh.
dan friesen
Almost all the time that he comes on the show, it just ends up him screaming and then it somehow relates back to you should buy gold.
That's pretty much the trends that he's forecasting.
jordan holmes
Too many people are buying this Kardashian app!
unidentified
You know what?
The gold in Kardashian apps is fake!
It's fake!
That's why you gotta buy real gold in the Marvel Heroes of the Universe app!
That's a much better game!
dan friesen
They sell it at Midas!
So, we're entering the homestretch here.
unidentified
Pokemon Go is ruining this planet!
dan friesen
I wouldn't be surprised if he said that at some point.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
We're entering the homestretch.
This is a little bit of a shorter episode because there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of nonsense.
He talks about Dave Mustaine pretty much through half of this episode.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And then at the end of it, he rushes Richard Belzer off the phone because he realizes, oh shit, we're running out of time.
I gotta play this statement from Dave Mustaine.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it's just, hey.
Yeah.
It's basically that.
jordan holmes
That's a good statement by Mustaine.
It's far more coherent than most of his are.
dan friesen
It's like Fast and Furious was a thing.
They faked the Aurora shooting.
Why wouldn't this all be fake?
They're just trying to take our guns, blah, blah, blah.
It's exactly what you'd expect.
It's not even worth listening to.
But something that is worth listening to is they come back...
This is not back from commercial yet.
This is during the Richard Belzer interview.
Something really fucked up happens.
richard belzer
You know, phones...
I'm with my friend Chris Walken.
We're doing a cooking thing for Funny or Die.
And Chris's house, he doesn't have a computer or a cell phone.
So dig it, Alex.
He's not on any of Google's maps.
jordan holmes
Dig it, man.
richard belzer
Isn't that interesting?
unidentified
Wow.
alex jones
Wow.
unidentified
Well, you know, I'm trying to do that at all.
richard belzer
We can't.
You and I can't.
We're finished.
I mean, we're public now.
jordan holmes
As opposed to Christopher Walken.
dan friesen
Yeah, who's private.
jordan holmes
Very private figure.
He doesn't have a computer, so Google can't find out where he is.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Richard Belzer is doing an interview with Alex Jones from Christopher Walken's house.
And, of course, you know what this leads to.
jordan holmes
So, hold on.
That means this conversation had to have happened.
Hold on, Chris.
I gotta go talk to Alex Jones of InfoWars.
dan friesen
And you know what else ends up having to happen?
jordan holmes
Chris is gonna show up.
dan friesen
Christopher Walken appears on InfoWars.
unidentified
Perfect.
Perfect.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yes.
unidentified
All of it.
jordan holmes
Injected into my veins, Dan.
dan friesen
I gotta be clear.
It would be easy to think that this is someone doing a Christopher Walken impression.
It is not.
He is on video.
jordan holmes
He's on video.
dan friesen
It is 100% Christopher Walken.
And it looks like he's sitting on Richard Belzer's lap.
jordan holmes
Which is another reasonable thing that could happen in Christopher Walken's house.
dan friesen
He ends up being on Infowars for about four minutes.
unidentified
Okay!
dan friesen
And I just have the full clip.
We'll have to pause at some points, but, like, it is a master class in someone who doesn't give a fuck about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Well, I feel like I should say more cowbell here right now.
We have Richard on the line with us.
He's the author of Dead Wrong, Richard Belzer.
TV, movie star, you name it.
Author, comedian.
And then he said, yeah, no, I'm here at Christopher Walken's house.
And he was talking about how he didn't have a bunch of computers and phones spying on him.
And suddenly, Christopher Walken is on our Skype video feed.
Let's bring him up right now.
Oh, my.
richard belzer
I had to drag him out of bed.
That's how much he likes me.
Richard and I are cooking.
Yes.
And we're writing a book.
Right.
And we're doing a movie called...
The Nose.
The Nose in the River.
We're teasing, but we're filming this cooking thing for Funny or Die.
So Chris took a picture of my nose and I took a picture of his nose.
And we're going to release that as a short film and hopefully get an Oscar.
unidentified
You took a snapshot of my nose, but I took a movie.
richard belzer
Yeah, a four-second movie of my nose.
unidentified
So...
This is gold, Dan!
This is radio gold!
dan friesen
You can also just see Alex being like, I do not know how to cut him.
I have no idea what to do.
jordan holmes
I can't yell.
I can't yell at anybody.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I respect Christopher Walken too much.
jordan holmes
I don't know why.
dan friesen
Plus, there is a calculus.
You can see him sort of going over in his head.
He's like...
Am I going to be able to swing Christopher Walken?
Am I going to be able to get him as a guest?
Like Richard Belzer called in willingly to talk about crazy shit with me.
jordan holmes
Can I start getting Christopher Walken on Infowars regularly?
dan friesen
I've got Dave Mustaine.
I've got the Bells.
Now I've got to get Walken.
jordan holmes
This is a strange guest episode.
dan friesen
Very strange.
unidentified
It's going to be great.
richard belzer
People want to know what celebrities do, Alex?
We're not that mysterious.
jordan holmes
But we also made a chicken.
richard belzer
Yeah, we made chicken.
We made sweet potatoes.
He made chicken with sweet potatoes and onions.
unidentified
Cooked pears.
richard belzer
Cooked pears.
jordan holmes
That's his grandma explaining things.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
richard belzer
He's a great cook, and I just made the salad.
unidentified
The orange melon.
richard belzer
The orange melon.
What's the name of that dish in there?
dan friesen
So they're just talking about...
Talk about lunch.
jordan holmes
Some nice tomato.
I put a little bit of that in there.
dan friesen
That's not a great walk-in.
jordan holmes
No, it's not a great walk-in.
I wasn't prepared.
dan friesen
No.
richard belzer
The French name.
The seafood orange.
unidentified
The scallop orange.
richard belzer
A la Wolkin.
unidentified
Yes.
richard belzer
Alex, you ever come to New York?
alex jones
I do come occasionally.
Why?
richard belzer
Please call us when you come to town.
unidentified
But Richard made a trip.
richard belzer
Terrific.
unidentified
Arugula salad.
Walken has no time for that shit.
dan friesen
Richard Bells are trying to weave Alex in somehow.
But Alex, even that way, like, hey, you ever come to New York?
Why?
Like, as if it's a trap.
Like, some sort of, like, you come to New York, you stay away from the, I don't know.
So we got an arugula salad now that's in the mix.
alex jones
Arugula.
richard belzer
Arum tomatoes.
Shade Parmesan.
alex jones
Shade Parmesan.
richard belzer
Two kinds of oil, sunflower and olive oil and a little salt.
And we have a little red wine.
A little red wine.
alex jones
That sounds good.
richard belzer
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're drunk.
jordan holmes
That sounds good!
dan friesen
They're probably drunk.
jordan holmes
Alex, great, great ad.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Great interview.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
richard belzer
Chris is a gourmet.
alex jones
What's your favorite type of red wine, Mr. Walken?
Friday.
I hear ya.
richard belzer
We like the heavy reds.
alex jones
Oh, wow.
Mr. Walken, we are learning Mr. Belzer's views on the world.
richard belzer
Richard and Chris.
alex jones
Richard and Chris.
Chris, what is your view on what's happening in the world right now with the TSA and the groping?
dan friesen
Do you think he's going to give him a real answer?
jordan holmes
You know what?
Absolutely not.
alex jones
Surveillance grid.
I was hearing that you don't have all the little spy gadgets in your house.
I envy that.
unidentified
I have no idea, and I hardly leave the house.
richard belzer
I cook, read the news.
unidentified
Richard just gave me his book.
richard belzer
I'm going to read it.
Yeah, he'll read my book.
jordan holmes
He's not going to read his book.
richard belzer
It's a history book.
unidentified
But I'm working with Richard on the cooking book.
richard belzer
Right, we're going to do something together.
But Chris is brilliant because he doesn't want to be on the Google map, and he doesn't want...
His phone, do we have that reverse technology that we all know even when it's off, they know where we are.
And he's one of the few people I know on the earth that has managed to do that.
I mean, we have to do it.
We're in media.
But, you know, he can go to a movie set.
They give him a phone that he can throw away when it's over, when he does a play.
It's the coolest.
unidentified
I mean, they only give him a phone so that they can know where he is.
alex jones
Showing away my radio slash TV show.
We're almost invading you right now like an alien probe.
unidentified
I know.
richard belzer
I was taking a nap, and Richard called me out, and here I am.
alex jones
This is unbelievable.
But, Mr. Walken, what do you think of the whole announcement that they want to have an Iran war?
Do you think that's a bad idea?
richard belzer
He's got a nap, Alex.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
Thank you so much, Mr. Walken.
unidentified
All right.
richard belzer
Thanks.
alex jones
All right.
I'm sorry, Richard, that I brought up serious subjects.
dan friesen
Oh, God!
That was one of the least successful interviews I've ever heard.
Christopher Walken loves making chicken with pears and red wine and arugula salad with two kinds of...
jordan holmes
He's teasing the cooking show.
He's teasing their cooking book.
Their cooking book.
Their cookbook.
It's going to be called Walkin' to the Bells.
dan friesen
Sure.
I love that.
At the end there, Alex is like, what do you think about them trying to make a war in Iran?
And Walken's response was, who?
Clearly had no idea who Alex Jones was.
alex jones
Nope.
dan friesen
No interest in playing.
jordan holmes
Doesn't give a fuck.
dan friesen
I was kind of disappointed because when I pulled up the episode and I saw Christopher Walken, I was like...
unidentified
Whoa.
dan friesen
This could be crazy.
And it is crazy.
No matter what, it's fucking crazy.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
But I was kind of hoping it would be a real, like, full interview.
Christopher Walken is just like...
unidentified
I've never wondered what Christopher Walken's political opinions are.
jordan holmes
Until now, in which I want to know everything he thinks about the world.
dan friesen
I still don't really care.
This is good enough for me.
That he doesn't care about Infowars.
jordan holmes
That's a good start.
dan friesen
So that's pretty much it.
I mean, after this, they just talk a little bit more about JFK, and then they play the Mustaine statement.
And, you know, that's not really all that interesting.
So that brings us to the end of August 16th, 2012.
jordan holmes
At the end of the interview, Bells walked into Christopher Walken's room where he's wearing those blackout headwear, and Bells is like, sir, are you going to read this book about JFK?
unidentified
And Walken was like, who?
dan friesen
No.
alex jones
Not going to do that.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
I am napping, and it is, I don't know, four in the afternoon right now?
dan friesen
When I take naps, I wake up, and then I cook.
And then I don't leave the house.
jordan holmes
Go back to sleep.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Living a great life.
Christopher Walken.
Gotta love it.
jordan holmes
Love me some Christopher Walken.
dan friesen
Making a movie about noses.
jordan holmes
Christopher Walken just goes on the set.
He's given a burner.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
And then he goes right back home.
dan friesen
It's one of these things that, like, there's really not much to talk about there.
It's fun.
It's fun as hell.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But there's not much to talk about outside of Alex being, like, a completely impotent interviewer.
jordan holmes
It was a delay.
dan friesen
He got steamrolled by two 70-year-old men who just want to talk about food.
jordan holmes
The fake star fucker laugh is maybe my favorite.
dan friesen
Between the Mustaine stuff and that, it's just like, this is a disgraceful look for Alex.
Like an entire day of being like, celebrities, I'm important, they're in my trajectory.
He comes back from the next commercial break with Don't Fear the Reaper.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So it's more cowbell jokes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, I got it.
dan friesen
It's one day of celebrity worship and board game analysis.
It's the most, it's one of the weirdest episodes.
unidentified
That's, that's, well, you know what?
jordan holmes
I think he covered it.
I think he got all the subjects he needed to cover.
dan friesen
I would say so.
jordan holmes
What else is there in the world besides Dave Mustaine saying some dumb shit?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Chess and Monopoly and the game Risk are everything.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And what did Christopher Walken eat today?
dan friesen
And?
What does Salenti think about something?
There you go.
That's a show.
So thank you all for listening.
unidentified
Everybody underestimated the movie Prophecy starring Christopher Walken.
jordan holmes
It was actually surprisingly good.
unidentified
The guy from the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was in it.
He played that one guy with the hockey mask.
dan friesen
Casey Jones.
unidentified
I love hockey.
The problem with Toronto is there's too much hockey.
dan friesen
I was trying to play the role of Alex Jones chiming in.
Casey Jones!
alex jones
What'd you have to eat?
dan friesen
If you want to check out our website, it's knowledgefight.com.
And we will be live at the Playground Theater.
jordan holmes
Saturday, January 20th at 10.30pm.
dan friesen
Please tell your friends.
jordan holmes
Yeah, for some reason we chose for our first live show a place that seats 150 people.
dan friesen
Or so.
jordan holmes
Which...
God help us, can we get 15?
We'd be happy if anybody was there.
So please tell your friends.
dan friesen
Like we said at the beginning of the show, it is a BYOB situation.
And so if you and your peeps want to have a booze night on the cheap with the show, it's a perfect example for that.
jordan holmes
Or if you hate your work friends.
dan friesen
And like I said, we are not going to be talking about Elliot Rodger, so it won't be that.
jordan holmes
It won't be too bad.
dan friesen
Maybe.
Well, we'll see.
But, yeah, it would be really great.
We would really, really appreciate anybody who helps get the word out to spread some things on Twitter and Facebook with us.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're probably going to Blues Brother it here pretty soon and get some sound equipment.
dan friesen
We're going to go get Chubby Checker.
Yep.
jordan holmes
The Duck.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
We're going to get the Duck.
dan friesen
Donald the Duck.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Done.
Isn't it Donald done?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Donald the Duck done.
Something like that.
dan friesen
Something like that.
Anyway.
Mac Murphy, right?
Isn't he in there?
jordan holmes
Something like that.
dan friesen
I don't remember all the names of the Blues Brothers band.
jordan holmes
Charles Murphy?
dan friesen
Sure, Charlie Murphy.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So, what else?
We're also on Twitter, knowledge underscore fight.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
You can look us up on iTunes.
You can do that there.
Get us wherever you make your podcast apps listenable.
dan friesen
Also Facebook!
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
And I think what...
Who do we hate today, Dan?
dan friesen
I hate myself, for this episode being so short.
jordan holmes
Alright, well then go fuck yourself, Dan.
dan friesen
That doesn't seem fair to somebody else.
jordan holmes
Okay, let's go with the fucking 24-year-old guy who's in charge of the opioid crisis.
Go fuck yourself, that asshole.
dan friesen
Who's this?
jordan holmes
Yeah, you didn't know that?
dan friesen
There's a 24-year-old who's in charge of the...
jordan holmes
Yeah, who does not...
He's still trying to get his master's degree.
dan friesen
Oh, Jesus, I don't know anything about this.
jordan holmes
I'm going to have to look into it.
dan friesen
Preemptively, he can fuck himself.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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