Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the Nov 1, 2017 episode of The Alex Jones Show. The subject matter goes all over the place, but the throughline (as always) is race-based deceitful propaganda, today largely focused at all Muslims, in response to the attack in Manhattan.
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| And we are a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| There's a special twist today, though. | ||
| We are not drinking novelty beverages. | ||
| Nah, nah, nah. | ||
| We are drinking some Palisade wine, my friend. | ||
| Palisade, I think. | ||
| I think it's in honor of area California, maybe the Palisades. | ||
| No, it's France. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Also, the Palisades are in Florida. | ||
| No, they're not. | ||
| Isn't it an area of California, isn't it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think it is. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I think I might be thinking of the Everglades. | ||
| I associate them. | ||
| Yeah, you definitely are. | ||
| I associate them with Saved by the Bell for some reason. | ||
| I think they live in the Palisades. | ||
| No, they constantly had to keep building Palisades to keep the Huns out, right? | ||
| That was the plot of Saved by the Bell, if I remember correctly. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| All the hijinks that Zack Morris went into. | ||
| And Genghis Khan, of course. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Genghis Khan the dork on the show, yeah. | ||
| Did I kill that? | ||
| That's Family Matters. | ||
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I know! | |
| I'm just throwing them all in there, man. | ||
| If we're going to make a pot pie of shitty references, we might as well go all the way. | ||
| Alright, so this is a podcast where we talk about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed! | ||
| Twist is... | ||
| You know a lot about Alex Jones, my friend. | ||
| You don't know anything about him. | ||
| Today we'll be going over the November 1st. | ||
| 2017. | ||
| Three days away from Ragnarok. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Or Antifa burning everybody down. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But first, I have a couple... | ||
| We're only two days away from Thor Ragnarok. | ||
| I have a couple things I want to get into really quick before we start the show that have nothing to do with the show. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But we've got to turn this into a little bit of, like... | ||
| Look, people get tired of fucking Alex Jones, so let's give them a little bit of something else. | ||
| I know his ex-wife got tired of fucking Alex Jones. | ||
| There's no doubt. | ||
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Hey! | |
| Hey! | ||
| Let me tell you about Genghis Khan. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So, I got a couple people I want to put on blast. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The first of them is Will Smith. | ||
| Will Smith? | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Let's get him. | ||
| It's time somebody finally took him down. | ||
| Before we start the show live here on Twitch, I like to have a themed playlist that people can try and guess the theme of. | ||
| And today's was... | ||
| Songs with cities, or apparently counties, regions, in the title. | ||
| And I was going through, and I realized, like, oh, Miami, Will Smith, that's one of them. | ||
| That's why I went back and listened to it, and I realized Will Smith's got a lot of albums. | ||
| And so I was like, why does he have a lot of albums? | ||
| That's embarrassing. | ||
| Like, that didn't work out for him. | ||
| Hey, man, a polymath is a polymath, no matter how you slice it. | ||
| Big Willie Style was a hit. | ||
| And then Willennium was his second album. | ||
| And I was looking through, like, what are the fucking tracks on Willennium? | ||
| This didn't work out. | ||
| And get this. | ||
| Well, there's Will Entry, there's Will Decade. | ||
| That's a region of the Willennium. | ||
| So I was scrolling through it and I saw Wild Wild West. | ||
| The theme song from Wild Wild West was on there. | ||
| A banger. | ||
| Unqualified banger. | ||
| And so I was like, I haven't heard that in a while. | ||
| I want to fucking listen to Wild Wild West. | ||
| And I'm going to play the beginning of it. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because it's important. | ||
| I want you to listen to this. | ||
| Nobody has ever said that before, Dan. | ||
| This is absolutely important. | ||
| Nobody has ever said the beginning of Wild Wild West is important. | ||
| It's not the same as the beginning in the movie Wild Wild West. | ||
| I'll tell you that for sure. | ||
| It is the same. | ||
| Same as in Godzilla vs. | ||
| Mothra, right? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It was in the lawsuit. | ||
| So, like, listen to this and it'll become clear why I'm putting him on blast. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Oh, you took the headphone jack out! | ||
| That could have been so smooth. | ||
| Oh, goddammit, Dan, your transitions are terrible. | ||
| Retroactively bad transitions! | ||
| I thought you were going to vamp for a minute instead of throwing me under the bus. | ||
| No. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| So, Jaden. | ||
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Look, it's only a couple more records left on the album, man. | |
| Like, what you think I should put on now? | ||
| Really? | ||
| Nah, come on, man. | ||
| People heard that. | ||
| I mean, I got some hot records. | ||
| I got The Rain. | ||
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I got, uh, what should I do next? | |
| Alright, look, you know what? | ||
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I'm gonna just go on. | |
| I'm gonna pick my own. | ||
| I'm gonna put something else on. | ||
| Alright, man. | ||
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Fine. | |
| He's blaming his son. | ||
| For putting Wild Wild West on his album, even though it came out on the Wild Wild West soundtrack. | ||
| I think he hates that song. | ||
| He's like, I already put it out. | ||
| Why would I do it again? | ||
| That's a desperate cash grab trying to fill up this album. | ||
| He fucking puts it on his baby son! | ||
| I don't like how... | ||
| That's a very Alex Jones-ian interaction as well. | ||
| Terrible. | ||
| At the same time as he was like, Hey, I don't want to put this song on there. | ||
| I've got too many hot tracks. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| I don't mean to brag. | ||
| I got that one shitty track that everybody likes. | ||
| Put this on my kid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Jaden has been ruining our lives ever since the beginning. | ||
| I can never get enough of that song, though. | ||
| So actually, Jaden might have been right. | ||
| But be that as it may, Will Smith. | ||
| Still going on blast for blaming his kid for putting his song on the same album. | ||
| Another person that's gotta go on blast. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Jaden Smith for putting Wild Wild West on that album. | ||
| I don't know the name of this person, but this person's going on blast hard. | ||
| And it is the person... | ||
| Who created the bus stop ads for the Ninja Turtles adventure in New York. | ||
| Oh yeah, they're weird as fuck, right? | ||
| Have you seen these around the city? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Alright, so for those of you who haven't seen these, there's a bunch of them. | ||
| You gotta get back into stand-up. | ||
| This is a good chunk? | ||
| You can easily do 15 to 20 on this. | ||
| So there's one of them that's all four of the turtles in Times Square, and they're all doing a pose down. | ||
| Donatello's got a Statue of Liberty hat on and what have you. | ||
| Fucking Michelangelo has food in his hand. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Oh, it's not pizza. | ||
| Oh, it's not pizza. | ||
| It's not pizza? | ||
| It's a pretzel. | ||
| What? | ||
| What the fuck are they doing? | ||
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What? | |
| First of all, New York is known for its pizza. | ||
| Secondly, the Ninja Turtles are known for pizza. | ||
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To the point where in the video games it gave you life. | |
| It was the most important piece of the video games. | ||
| Fucking pretzel. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| Why is Michelangelo holding a pizza? | ||
| How can everybody at that ad firm... | ||
| And it's not like... | ||
| I can understand if it was like he was holding a salad or something because it's like, eat healthy, kids. | ||
| But a pretzel is not more healthy than pizza. | ||
| It's a lot of salt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a lot of oil. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Total bullshit. | ||
| I don't know how that ad gets through the entire ad agency. | ||
| That's what I'm being like, hold on now. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| We're about the age where we grew up with Ninja Turtles. | ||
| I don't think they were into pretzels. | ||
| Shouldn't we know more? | ||
| I think they went crazy for pizza! | ||
| That was like the last line of the movies. | ||
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All of the movies end with some joke about pizza. | |
| And most importantly, a line that I use still to this day from the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie. | ||
| Wise man once said, forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for late pizza. | ||
| Yeah, there was another one that was like, to err is human, but pizza is awesome. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| But Cowabunga Divine. | ||
| Splinter made a funny. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| That movie was very strange because that is a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it is actually a very interesting look at how... | ||
| Kids join gangs? | ||
| Right, it's a parenting movie. | ||
| Yeah, it's very fascinating. | ||
| So anyway, a couple people are on blast. | ||
| We'll come up with a sound effect for that at a later date. | ||
| But now let's get into... | ||
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Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. | |
| Maybe. | ||
| So let's get into Alex Jones. | ||
| First of all, I'd like to give a couple of policy wonk shout-outs to new donors. | ||
| We really appreciate that. | ||
| We got a new policy wonk in the fold. | ||
| A shout-out to you, Kevin. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Kevin! | ||
| Welcome aboard. | ||
| We appreciate it so very much. | ||
| Also, someone else has joined the ranks of the globalists with an incredibly generous donation. | ||
| We appreciate very much. | ||
| Big shout-out going out to you, Keegan. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Four stars. | ||
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | |
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark! | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| You're officially a globalist. | ||
| Someone sent me a... | ||
| Some sodomite send me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| Never not going to enjoy that. | ||
| Never. | ||
| It's the gift that keeps on giving from Reverend David Manning. | ||
| So, we're going to get into today's episode. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| November 1st. | ||
| But first, here's an out-of-context drop from this episode. | ||
| When you repeat a lie, it makes you a liar. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Thank you, Roger Stone. | ||
| Thanks for clarifying that. | ||
| We'll get to you in a minute. | ||
| Roger! | ||
| There's a lot of... | ||
| Roger Stone explaining lying to us is maybe one, perhaps the best teacher. | ||
| That's like a con man teaching the FBI how to con people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But a con man who's still actively engaging in confidence games. | ||
| Well, I mean, that's every great con movie where the con man has to be playing the FBI as well. | ||
| Like, that's how that has to go down. | ||
| Kaiser Soze shit. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Which that movie is tainted now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But anyway, let's get into it. | ||
| Today's episode features a lot of people giving up the game quite a bit. | ||
| There's some big news in the world of Alex. | ||
| Which I think is going to excite everybody. | ||
| And beyond that, I have to put Media Matters on blast. | ||
| They will be joining Will Smith and the ad company behind the Ninja Turtles in New York. | ||
| Terrible company! | ||
| I appreciate what Media Matters is doing and bringing attention to stuff, but they've made a critical error, and we'll discuss it a little bit later in the episode. | ||
| But let's start off with some big news in Alex Jones' land. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| Al Gore, let me tell you, behind the scenes, is quarterbacking the attempted takedown of free speech in America and this broadcast. | ||
| In the next few weeks, I'll be at liberty to tell you about it. | ||
| I'm not at this point. | ||
| But we have Soros, Al Gore, you've seen Podesta saying, Alex Jones, eat S-H-you-know-what tea. | ||
| Us too. | ||
| He never even tweets, but it's about me. | ||
| And I don't say that like I'm bragging. | ||
| I need everybody's prayers. | ||
| And I need your financial support. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, one theme that you're going to see... | ||
| S-H-U-K-O-T-T. | ||
| Does he not know what the name of an ampersand or a star is? | ||
| Isn't that how we usually... | ||
| Cartoon eyes are invective. | ||
| I didn't think he was going to come back for the tea. | ||
| I thought it was going to be S-H-U-K-O-W-T. | ||
| It could have ended right there. | ||
| But this is something that he's going to come back to over and over again. | ||
| S-H-U-K-O-W-T-I-T. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Shoit? | ||
| Shtit? | ||
| So he's going to come back to this over and over and over again, and it turns out that Al Gore may or may not be suing Alex. | ||
| From all the context clues that I have, I don't know if it's Al Gore, but someone is fucking suing Alex. | ||
| Alex is scared. | ||
| He is shook, because as we know, he is a halfway crook. | ||
| And coward. | ||
| He's scared to death, scared to look. | ||
| He is in trouble. | ||
| Something big is happening behind the scenes, and I think it might have something to do with this next clip. | ||
| I think they can smash us. | ||
| All that'll do is invigorate us even more. | ||
| And as Winston Churchill said, we shall go on to the end, whatever the cost may be. | ||
| We shall defend our republic. | ||
| We shall never surrender. | ||
| He said we shall go on to the end, whatever the price may be. | ||
| We shall defend our island. | ||
| This Churchill is getting better. | ||
| We shall go on to the end. | ||
| We shall go on to the end. | ||
| And as you can see, we're winning. | ||
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But it is a war. | |
| Quite frankly, I love it. | ||
| I can't wait till I can bring all this stuff out very soon. | ||
| They figured out we've got PIs and people on them. | ||
| They're getting really freaked out. | ||
| So I'm not telling you anything they don't know already. | ||
| We'll be back soon. | ||
| They figured out we're stalking them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't trust Alex Jones to hire a competent private investigator. | ||
| Based on everything I know about everyone else he's ever hired, I imagine he's harassing these people. | ||
| I imagine there's just taking pictures in Al Gore's windows or something like that. | ||
| I think it's just Owen Troyer putting on a hat and glasses. | ||
| Yeah, it might as well be. | ||
| Like with a magnifying glass like Sherlock Holmes? | ||
| It's absolute insanity. | ||
| I think all likelihood points to he has been harassing/stalking certain people, maybe one of the Podestas. | ||
| That seems to be implied a little bit later in the episode that that was one of the people he put the PIs on. | ||
| But one of the fun things about this episode is, you'll notice, he just keeps saying, "I I can't wait to talk. | ||
| I can't talk about... | ||
| Look, Al Gore's suing me. | ||
| He keeps talking about how he can't talk about how Al Gore is suing him. | ||
| I want to be his lawyer so bad. | ||
| His lawyer is fucking rich because of Alex. | ||
| A lot of billable owls. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| A lot of billable owls, too. | ||
| A lot of billable owls. | ||
| All the guardians of Ga 'ul. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, naturally, Alex Jones thinks Hogwarts is real, so they would have the best lawyers that can cloud people's minds. | ||
| So, Jordan, you weren't here yesterday. | ||
| Use the imperious curse. | ||
| I was hanging out with Cthulhu yesterday. | ||
| day. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And you missed a little propaganda game that Alex Jones played. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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He played it with a guest who goes by the name of Zach. | |
| And Alex, without investigating this guy at all, pretends that he has high-level intelligence information. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| Was the phrase no whammies involved? | ||
| No, but he did. | ||
| That would be a great propaganda. | ||
| Caller Zach did agree with Alex Jones' guest who said that there were helicopters involved in the Las Vegas shooting where people were shooting at the crowd from helicopters. | ||
| So this seems credible. | ||
| Real credible. | ||
| Helicopters, people shooting from the crowd. | ||
| No, shooting at the crowd. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So, Alex has this caller, Zach, and the game that he played, I apologize to everyone who listened to yesterday's episode, but the game was, he says that he knows all of the information about what happened, but he can't talk about it. | ||
| Then, the guest that he has, Shepard Ambulus, and this caller say a bunch of stuff. | ||
| After the call, Alex is like, can you believe it? | ||
| That's all the secret information I had. | ||
| He plays that game a lot. | ||
| It's so fucking funny. | ||
| It's complete nonsense. | ||
| So funny. | ||
| Yeah, and so he said yesterday, I want to get this Zach back as a guest. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| And here is the conclusion of that. | ||
| ...into other agencies, or promoted, who I know has given us good info on air, and that it's mirrored information I've gotten from other sources inside the deep state. | ||
| And he was going to come on today, but he got called into a meeting yesterday. | ||
| They were listening, and he's gotten in some trouble. | ||
| And what did he say? | ||
| He said, there's clearly Saudi Arabian connections to Vegas and that there's more imminent attacks coming. | ||
| So Alex uses that to weave into the Manhattan truck attack that happened yesterday. | ||
| I'm sorry, we heard you were on... | ||
| Infowars. | ||
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Right. | |
| And we just can't have you work the fryer anymore at McDonald's. | ||
| We just can't do it. | ||
| You're not representing McDonald's very well. | ||
| You can make that call on your own time, but you're not on the clock. | ||
| Yeah, you can't do it. | ||
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You just can't. | |
| You can't. | ||
| You've got orders piling up. | ||
| And look, I don't even want to fire you. | ||
| I just want to reprimand you, but this is your third one. | ||
| Can I be honest? | ||
| This is a good fantasy, but more likely he called into a meeting with his mom. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Because there's no fucking way that there was... | ||
| He got called into the FBI director's office. | ||
| I mean, it could be that his Destiny raid was about to start. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| That's entirely possible. | ||
| I think Destiny 2 came out. | ||
| People like that a lot. | ||
| I'm going to guess that the guy was either like, I don't want to do this. | ||
| This bit has gone far enough. | ||
| Or something. | ||
| Alex presents it as like, he's called in for years. | ||
| I can tell you that I've been studying Alex for the last 11 months. | ||
| I've listened to the entirety of 2015 and a whole bunch of episodes other than that. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| He doesn't call in. | ||
| That's like Robert David Steele and Barry Cassidy. | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| I just don't want to do anything. | ||
| Hold on a second here. | ||
| I'm looking at the chat room. | ||
| Garbage dick. | ||
| Are you saying that this Zach guy is a Reddit celebrity? | ||
| Is that the case? | ||
| I think we might be getting some intel from the chat room. | ||
| I'm trying to pretend this person's an intelligence. | ||
| Screen name Garbage Dick. | ||
| Oh, great. | ||
| Oh, great. | ||
| That's what I imagine Star Trek Deep Space Nine in real life would be, is just like, Garbage Dick, are you there? | ||
| Can you hear me, Garbage Dick? | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| Garbage Dick, the Zack is not based Stickman. | ||
| Those are different dudes. | ||
| Base Stickman was also on yesterday. | ||
| Ah, I gotcha. | ||
| So that may be this Zach CIA faker, FBI faker guy. | ||
| He might be a Reddit celebrity. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I keep thinking that Base Stickman is like Slender Man. | ||
| I keep getting the two mixed up. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Is Slenderman the reason that those two kids killed somebody? | ||
| I'm less scared of the Slenderman. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Slenderman? | ||
| Slenderman. | ||
| I'm also less scared of the Babadook. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's all sorts of... | ||
| Well, Roger Stone is the Babadook, actually. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is... | ||
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My dude over here looking like the Babadook. | |
| Best tweet ever. | ||
| At SpookPerson. | ||
| So, in this next... | ||
| We're going to get into an era here. | ||
| There's a chunk going on here. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And what we end up with is Alex Jones has found out about the truck attack in Manhattan. | |
| That's not good. | ||
| I don't know how else to set this up. | ||
| He just launches into an incredibly Islamophobic. | ||
| Quite bigoted rant. | ||
| And this is some of the stuff that Media Matters was covering. | ||
| And this will be part one of the discussion about that, and then at the end of the episode I'll explain what they could have done better. | ||
| Look at this mentally retarded animal. | ||
| Let's put him up on screen. | ||
| A vicious, psychotic, inbred ISIS. | ||
| Look at that guy. | ||
| This stuff was not in the Media Matters report. | ||
| Look at that demon. | ||
| Oh, and he just culturally enriched. | ||
| And again, it's a cucking for the left. | ||
| They, leftists in their homes across the nation last night, weren't just making apologies like Jake Tapper saying it's beautiful. | ||
| But a lot of them, you can better believe, were engaging in self-flagellation. | ||
| And I'm not joking when I say that. | ||
| They love this. | ||
| The fact that the left can bring in millions of these people with their eyes pointing different directions. | ||
| That's hard to do. | ||
| From the inbreeding. | ||
| But totally psychotic, always believe their God, like a lot of other seriously inbred, mentally retarded people. | ||
| It's very sad. | ||
| But this type of inbreeding creates psychotic psychosis in high numbers. | ||
| So it's not just the religion, folks. | ||
| It's the inbreeding. | ||
| Armies of inbred psycho killers. | ||
| Then we gotta get rid of Kentucky! | ||
| Jondo psycho inbred Muslim hillbillies attacking. | ||
| Muslim hillbillies. | ||
| Everybody knows there is the Appalachian where some people are inbred. | ||
| You don't mess with those people. | ||
| They'll kill you in two seconds. | ||
| Because they're inbred, folks. | ||
| They're crazy. | ||
| Imagine if there was a billion Appalachians in the world. | ||
| And half of them were inbred and psychotic. | ||
| And they're just literally raining them down on us. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| I've just got to tell you like it is. | ||
| Okay, great. | ||
| Thanks for that. | ||
| If you wanted to tell people like it is, you should actually get into the reality of inbreeding, especially when it's like second cousins and stuff like that, and how that's really not that bad. | ||
| We've talked about this in great detail in the past. | ||
| Which is something I don't feel comfortable saying. | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
| You know, we've talked about inbreeding very detailed in the past. | ||
| Well, not... | ||
| No, I know, I know, I know. | ||
| In the context of... | ||
| It doesn't necessarily create diseases. | ||
| It just gives you a higher likelihood if they're already there. | ||
| Recessive gene traits are going to explode. | ||
| There's a higher chance of mutation, negative mutation. | ||
| But it's not a... | ||
| It's not like a guaranteed... | ||
| No. | ||
| Everybody is going to come out looking like the Hills Have Eyes people. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| A lot of times it just gives you a giant foot. | ||
| Sometimes it'll just give you elephantitis or some sort of physical ailment. | ||
| It doesn't make you crazy. | ||
| Who doesn't want a giant foot? | ||
| Right. | ||
| In Super Mario 3, you... | ||
| Just drove around in a giant field. | ||
| Bounce around. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You're great at kickball. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| All of the kids want to hang out with you. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So anyway, this is more of what... | ||
| We'll be back with more Dan and Jordan on the pleasures of inbreeding. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So this next clip gets into more of what Media Matters actually covered. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But this guy in front of witnesses was chirping, chirping the Allah Akbar, I'm an inbred piece of garbage. | ||
| So he was chirping. | ||
| I'm an inbred psychopath with delusions of grandeur. | ||
| That's what you get when you're inbred. | ||
| A lot of times it's just delusions of grandeur. | ||
| You think you're invincible. | ||
| You're a drooling idiot who wipes his butt with your hand. | ||
| But you're God and Linda Sorcerer loves you and wants to put women under it. | ||
| Because look at Linda Sorcerer. | ||
| Looks like his brother. | ||
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It's the same dude. | |
| Same genetics. | ||
| All scrambled together. | ||
| All the slave trading, all of it comes from these folks. | ||
| What? | ||
| And we're just supposed to be culturally rich. | ||
| Too bad you didn't fully take Europe 1,400 years ago. | ||
| Too bad there was a counter-strike called the Crusades. | ||
| We apologize. | ||
| Please take us over. | ||
| Please inbreed us and pour acid on our faces and cut women's genitals off and murder the gays. | ||
| It's liberal! | ||
| Liberal! | ||
| Great. | ||
| Don't you have more in common with them than... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Doesn't he have a lot more in common with them? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He seems to have described first himself, then all the things that he wants to do. | ||
| Or at least the people that he makes excuses for seem to really be into. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, all of these organizations. | ||
| And, hey, like, the other thing, I don't want to talk about any of that stuff, because a lot of that we've debunked in the past and we've discussed. | ||
| What I want to talk about is very specifically, like, the big thing, the headline that Media Matters had is he's talking about how Linda Sarsour looks like the sibling of the attacker. | ||
| That was their headline. | ||
| Out of that, they went with, Alex Jones says Linda Sarsour looks like a thing. | ||
| He called the guy a retarded animal and talked about inbreeding forever. | ||
| Yeah, that's what they did. | ||
| And they didn't dig in at all into other things that he says that are much more troubling. | ||
| The thing that I want to get to, like, really put my finger on here, is what he is saying. | ||
| The subtext of everything he's saying is all Muslims are unipolar. | ||
| There are only one sort of Muslim. | ||
| And this is a perspective that we've encountered over and over again on Alex Jones' show. | ||
| Another thing I want to bring into focus is today, while I was on the bus going to and from therapy, I noticed a bunch... | ||
| Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. | ||
| Well, I noticed that as well. | ||
| But I noticed on Twitter a lot of people complaining about Laura Loomer. | ||
| Laura Loomer got on Twitter and she said... | ||
| Can someone start an Uber or Lyft that doesn't use Muslim drivers? | ||
| I don't want to give money to Muslim immigrants. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| And everyone got surprised. | ||
| I'm like, guys, we've been over this. | ||
| Everyone's getting hundreds of retweets for being like, Laura Loomer sucks. | ||
| I'm like, we could have told you that six months ago. | ||
| When she went on Alex's show and said that there are no rational Muslims, there's no moderate Muslims, when she went on the show and said that everyone's in denial about the idea that we're at war with that religion. | ||
| We already fucking knew this. | ||
| She's come out and said way worse. | ||
| Everyone's acting like, oh, what a surprise. | ||
| It's fucking garbage. | ||
| Get up to speed, you assholes. | ||
| Not you people listening, you're great. | ||
| But the rest of the world needs to get up to speed. | ||
| This is a problem. | ||
| It's scary. | ||
| You're just trying to ruin Twitter for everybody. | ||
| Look at how excited they were to discover a new fucking race baiter to hate. | ||
| Isn't that wonderful? | ||
| All those retweets are signs of joy, not rage. | ||
| It's Twitter just exploding with happiness in itself. | ||
| Also, apparently there's a little bit of a Twitter war going on between Loomer and Lauren Southern, which is exciting. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Why do these sentences exist now, Dan? | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Why are we doing this to ourselves? | ||
| Because no one took care of Alex Jones five years ago. | ||
| Or because his mom didn't take care of him 30 years ago. | ||
| Anyway, I also have a pretty decent authority that that doesn't sound anything like Alex's mom. | ||
| It's from someone who has met her. | ||
| So here in this next clip Alex gets into more anti-Muslim stuff but also weaves in Hollywood a little bit in a fairly gross way. | ||
| The rap sheet's 56 so far, and suddenly it's pedophilia popping up. | ||
| He's talking about charges against Weinstein or accusations that are made against Weinstein. | ||
| Oh, and who does Harvey Weinstein like? | ||
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He wants to bring in Muslims to cuck your world. | |
| Just like he likes to debase women and young girls. | ||
| He's going to debase the whole country. | ||
| He said yesterday he's given the world a gift. | ||
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With what he's just done, you're lucky I've given you this gift. | |
| I'm Harvey Weinstein. | ||
| Now, just like Europe just took in 10 million military-age men, they're going to take it, and they're going to slaughter you all they want. | ||
| It's liberal! | ||
| Oh, it's so liberal! | ||
| These are the insane maniacs that think they're God. | ||
| I think he just jizzed. | ||
| Yeah, no, he can go fucking die. | ||
| That's insanity. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I accept none of that. | ||
| I refuse. | ||
| Your Honor, I would like to strike that clip from the record and then his... | ||
| I don't know what to tell you about how fucking horrific that is. | ||
| I don't know that Weinstein is involved with bringing Muslim terrorists into the country. | ||
| I don't care! | ||
| I hope Weinstein dies! | ||
| This is fucking... | ||
| Look, fuck Weinstein and all this, but also, let's not forget that this is exactly what got Alex sued by Chobani. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| I don't think Weinstein's going to find a good jury for that lawsuit. | ||
| Company could. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| But be that as it may, I'm not saying that that's the person who's suing Alex currently, but that's exactly... | ||
| He doesn't learn from his past mistakes. | ||
| Well, yeah, that's obvious. | ||
| But what do you mean he doesn't learn from his past mistakes? | ||
| He learned perfectly from his past mistakes. | ||
| There are no consequences. | ||
| There are no consequences to his actions. | ||
| You just put out a video and then your listeners are like. | ||
| You just apologize and then say, I didn't do that, and then you're fine. | ||
| And your listeners are just like, oh, of course he did that. | ||
| He just doesn't want to deal with the hassle. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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You know, he's innocent. | |
| He could fight it in court. | ||
| He doesn't want to deal with it. | ||
| It would be too long. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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He's got a family. | |
| are no consequences. | ||
| If our boy Hamdi Ulukaya had really fucking tossed his balls over the coals, we would have a very different Alex Jones. | ||
| Someone will do that soon enough. | ||
| And I hope it's Al Gore. | ||
| I hope it's us. | ||
| We don't have standing. | ||
| We could get a shyster lawyer. | ||
| We could. | ||
| We could get Larry Clayman. | ||
| Which, shout out to listener Julia, who sent me a link to Larry Klayman is petitioning to be the lawyer investigating or trying Hillary for her crimes. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Which would be an amazing guy. | ||
| I would hire you in an instant, Larry. | ||
| You are exactly the type of kangaroo court lawyer I want. | ||
| Told to not appear. | ||
| He's not allowed to appear in multiple people's courts. | ||
| And then he's like, the judge was drunk. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That guy's the worst. | ||
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Jake Tapper | |
| He's paid to do what he does. | ||
| And he just said, Allah Akbar is usually so beautiful. | ||
| It's so beautiful. | ||
| That's really sick. | ||
| And what he is doing is virtue signaling from CNN that we got your back and keep doing what you're doing. | ||
| Kind of like the individual that went out and shot Congressman Scalise and others. | ||
| That day, we'll blitz her. | ||
| Had a guest on. | ||
| Saying that he was a hero. | ||
| Wolf Blitzer didn't disagree. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Stay with us. | ||
| So here's the fun thing. | ||
| The guy who came on Wolf Blitzer's show didn't say that Scalise was a hero. | ||
| He said that he was a friend of his and said that he was a normal guy. | ||
| It just seems like he was burnt out on politics or was fed up with the political state. | ||
| And that's what you hear from serial killers' friends. | ||
| Or neighbors. | ||
| They're like, you know, Ted Bundy's neighbor said he was a normal guy. | ||
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Right. | |
| What have you. | ||
| So he's lying about what the guy said on Wolf Blitzer's show. | ||
| But he's exposed himself. | ||
| Because he's saying that CNN endorses terrorism, much like when the Steve Scalise shooting happened, Wolf Blitzer had a guest on, and Wolf Blitzer didn't say anything to rebut him. | ||
| Alex, you've had Mars Base people on your show, and you didn't rebut them. | ||
| You've had David Icke on multiple times and you didn't push back about lizard shit. | ||
| They're not held to similar standards at all! | ||
| No, but it's fun! | ||
| Alright. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| The thing I think of whenever I listen to that, or the past three clips in Secession, is Alex's bigotry. | ||
| Is very real. | ||
| Very. | ||
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I can see it back when I go back to 2012 episodes. | |
| No, I know. | ||
| It's there. | ||
| What I'm saying is whenever you played the BBC clip and the guy, you know, after the interview, the guy is like, it's all an act. | ||
| He immediately stopped shouting. | ||
| That stuff's an act. | ||
| That stuff's an act. | ||
| But the bigotry ingrained in that is so horrific. | ||
| Because it's not just that he, you know, you say he's turning Muslims into unipolar, which... | ||
| Is more to me, he's identifying a race. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not like the faith or anything like that. | ||
| He's looking at a man's face and saying, almost phrenology style, you know, like, these are the parts of the face that make a bad person. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's all of the stuff that people from the Middle East look like. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| He is a horrible... | ||
| Bigoted racist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he can go fucking die. | ||
| And if your issue, Media Matters, is he said something about what somebody else fucking looks like. | ||
| No, and they're close. | ||
| They're close. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're close to getting or expressing what the issue is so people could take it seriously. | ||
| At least this piece of it. | ||
| But they're, to quote Mill and Colin, no cigar. | ||
| No. | ||
| But I like doing that. | ||
| I can see that in your heart. | ||
| I agree with you wholeheartedly. | ||
| And I think that is why Tom Brokaw called him an unalloyed racist. | ||
| And Alex has taken great issue with that because the guy used a $5 word and accurately represented him. | ||
| And Alex, if you want to say, where's the evidence? | ||
| We got lots of it. | ||
| But back to your point about the physical traits that he's going off of and saying things are bad. | ||
| He's about to get into one that I take particular issue with. | ||
| We were just showing you an image of the famous Habsburg Chin that, again, a lot of our Islamic friends have it as well. | ||
| Also, the lazy eye is another thing. | ||
| But in England, they see lazy eyes as a sign of royalty and nobility. | ||
| I mean, you go to some highfalutin event with British aristocracy or folks in the upper crust, and I've been to a few of them. | ||
| There aren't hardly any eyeballs pointing the right direction. | ||
| Fuck off, Alex. | ||
| What is that even fucking... | ||
| As a cross-eyed gentleman, go fuck yourself out. | ||
| Where does Alex even get his idea of history from? | ||
| The cross-eye is seen as a mark of the aristocracy in England, and Alex has gone to aristocratic parties. | ||
| Now, there is a real version of this. | ||
| I don't think that the cross-eye being a sign of nobility in England is one of them, but like... | ||
| Like, being overweight in a lot of populations, like in Hawaii, that was always... | ||
| Oh, I mean the... | ||
| But there's a functional reason for that. | ||
| The blood disease that most of European nobility or aristocracy had for a long time because they were all inbred and assholes. | ||
| Like, what, they all bleed? | ||
| What's the one where you bleed, really? | ||
| Hemophilia? | ||
| Hemophilia, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, but even beyond that, what I'm saying is, like, throughout the world, especially in resource... | ||
| Poor areas. | ||
| People who are overweight are seen as higher class because they are able to sustain a higher caloric intake. | ||
| So there are things like that. | ||
| You look at pictures of, like, old, rich Hawaiians, they're fucking super huge. | ||
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Right. | |
| And that's why, I don't know if that's why, necessarily, but it's one reason that I've heard speculated that, like, generally the builds are bigger in Hawaii. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Because there was, over time, an isolated population, and people selected towards that. | ||
| So, I mean, there is stuff like that. | ||
| Cross-Eye, you cannot explain that way. | ||
| You'd have to just bring random cross-eyed people into your aristocratic circle. | ||
| Who doesn't do that? | ||
| I do. | ||
| Everybody wants to see a cross-eye from now on. | ||
| You know, look. | ||
| I got a cross-eyed posse. | ||
| There is the bearded lady. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then there's Dan, the cross-eyed bearded lady. | ||
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Come on now. | |
| All right, I'm sorry. | ||
| Come on now. | ||
| I'm sorry, Dan. | ||
| I heard my feelings. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex Jones cites himself to assert that ISIS is super into pedophilia, and then you'll see what he does from there. | ||
| There it is, report. | ||
| ISIS leader encourages pedophilia. | ||
| Enjoying young boys is in the absence of women. | ||
| Enjoy young boys. | ||
| It's like you enjoy women. | ||
| Forcing them into harems. | ||
| That's a fancy name for sex slavery. | ||
| Also, I mean, he's just citing an Infowars article. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say, when he said report, what he means is we reported. | ||
| We wrote this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, but the West is where slavery came from. | ||
| We're the bad ones. | ||
| We're the evil people. | ||
| We're the folks that have to be gotten rid of. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| I want to plow into all of this that I'm going to spend a few minutes here first just encouraging listeners to understand that when you buy t-shirts or water filtration systems or books or videos Goddammit! | ||
| That's not possible! | ||
| Oh, it is. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| You are funding the revolution. | ||
| I mean, I cannot say it any clearer. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You're pretty clear about it. | ||
| The revolution that has won. | ||
| Or is winning. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Or the tide is turning towards. | ||
| It keeps turning. | ||
| We might be under attack. | ||
| To every tide, turn, turn, turn. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So yeah, the thing that I wanted to bring out of that one is that you're going to see a really interesting kind of ad pivot that Alex is doing on this show. | ||
| On this November 1st episode. | ||
| Very pedophilia heavy ad pivots? | ||
| Well, no, you should have heard yesterday, boy. | ||
| I'll tell you what now. | ||
| That's Missouri coming out. | ||
| The kind of pivots that he's doing are these really slow, intentional ones. | ||
| Like, there is a feeling of desperation in these pivots. | ||
| I'm not just tossing this off. | ||
| I need this money. | ||
| Generally, it would be like, it's going to be, I mean, this is out of place. | ||
| Hey, we're extending the sales, we're going to get 50% off, and this is like... | ||
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Guys, we need you to support the revolution. | |
| I think he is getting sued based on the nature of these pivots. | ||
| Based on context clues? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex... | ||
| Isn't it amazing how in your... | ||
| I know you were trying to start another clip, but I mean, you didn't give me a chance to respond. | ||
| I'm going to refill my wine. | ||
| Rependez, s 'il vous plaît. | ||
| Très bien. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No, it's always kind of something that hits me. | ||
| The idea of how we can just blow by the fact that he calls everybody a pedophile and equates everything he doesn't like with fucking children. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And we just go by it because it's so commonplace to us now. | ||
| It's horrific. | ||
| I genuinely believe that every Republican politician who said that being gay is equivalent to being a pedophile should be fucking murdered in the street. | ||
| But this is... | ||
| Everything. | ||
| This is not just if you're gay, you're a pedophile. | ||
| It's if you believe in a progressive tax code, you want to fuck children. | ||
| Or climate change. | ||
| Or if you believe in a God that's different from mine. | ||
| Or if you're not white. | ||
| On yesterday's show, he legitimately said that Antifa, the foundation of it all, is fucking kids. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Not everybody does it, but that's what it's about. | ||
| Like, fuck off, man. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| Why are you obsessed with fucking kids? | ||
| Because it's the 2017 post-social media, post-availability of people. | ||
| I mean, even we can just broadcast on the internet. | ||
| Alex Jones is able to broadcast stuff without censorship, without networks that could get sued and stuff like that. | ||
| It's just the equivalent of highly ramped up, accelerated satanic panic. | ||
| It's the same stuff that we saw with the McMartin school cases and shit back in the... | ||
| By the 80s and 90s. | ||
| And we're just seeing it again. | ||
| But it's much worse and it's much... | ||
| Alex has no one to stop him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Except Hamdi Yulakaya could have. | ||
| And someone soon will. | ||
| Goddammit, Hamdi. | ||
| I think someone will. | ||
| We were such big fans of you. | ||
| We're still big fans of you, but come on. | ||
| So we talked about on our last episode that we were on together how Alex is suspiciously not talking about George Papadopoulos' guilty plea. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That he made. | ||
| And Alex finally gets around to talking about it. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| He's dismissive. | ||
| The whole thing is a complete shut up. | ||
| So that's about all he has to say about it. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| But... | ||
| Well, the narrative out of the Trump fuckfaces is he was just a low-level coffee boy or something like that. | ||
| That doesn't matter. | ||
| If he did the stuff, he could just be a guy off the street. | ||
| It doesn't matter how far up in the chain he was. | ||
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He committed crimes, and you did too. | |
| He violated the Logan Act, for sure. | ||
| And beyond that, he talked with campaign officials about doing it, and then they lied about it. | ||
| I mean, the proof is there. | ||
| Yeah, the problem isn't like, oh, his job wasn't very good. | ||
| But it's also not a setup. | ||
| Alex thinks it's a setup. | ||
| I don't give a shit about that. | ||
| We don't have time to talk. | ||
| I don't even care if it is a setup. | ||
| I hope it's a setup. | ||
| That'd at least be fun. | ||
| I don't, because I think that's a little dirty. | ||
| But at the same time... | ||
| I don't give a shit about that. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Because Alex doesn't talk about it much. | ||
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Right. | |
| But what he gets into, because it jogs his mind, is a piece of his biography. | ||
| Ooh, we got another piece in the... | ||
| And this one is fucked up. | ||
| This might be a Mike Downer. | ||
| We know it's a setup. | ||
| We know that's how the swamp operates. | ||
| The same thing happened to me when I was in... | ||
| When I was in eighth grade, I was not a drug user, but I'd smoked marijuana before. | ||
| And they were busting lots of kids for smoking marijuana. | ||
| And this one kid in the field house kept saying, just buy a joint from me in the morning. | ||
| Please buy the joint from me in the morning. | ||
| Please. | ||
| And I said, no. | ||
| Well, the next day, he follows me in a bathroom at first period and says, here, please buy it. | ||
| And I went, whoa. | ||
| And I took it and threw it in the toilet. | ||
| They still called me to the office and said, we know you just bought a marijuana cigarette. | ||
| And I said, no, I threw it in the toilet. | ||
| Your guy did it. | ||
| You set him up. | ||
| They went, are you like an organized criminal? | ||
| You're saying no to us? | ||
| Who told you how to lie like this? | ||
| And I went, you people are crazy. | ||
| And they were really mad that I'd been in a bunch of fights and stuff and thought I was a trouble kid or whatever because I'd fight back against gangs that were just going around beating up the white kids. | ||
| I mean, that's what it was. | ||
| And I'm not against black people, but that's what was going on. | ||
| They were racist, some of them. | ||
| A lot of my friends were black. | ||
| The point was is that they just wanted to teach me a lesson. | ||
| They were white principals. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So, this is a very interesting piece of Alex Jones' false self-told biography. | ||
| Okay, so here's what happened. | ||
| Right. | ||
| One, do you know what's great about being a drug dealer? | ||
| You don't have to run people down to sell drugs. | ||
| No, they kind of sell themselves. | ||
| They're really easy to sell. | ||
| Especially among youths. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because it's tougher to find. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, you just like... | ||
| Have drugs and people buy them from you. | ||
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Yep. | |
| It's very easy. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Some people deliver when you get to be an adult. | ||
| It's fantastic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So what happened was he was talking to this guy. | ||
| He didn't have any money. | ||
| He said he would have money in the morning to buy a joint. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Buys a joint in the bathroom. | ||
| Gets caught. | ||
| Gets caught. | ||
| Tosses it into the toilet. | ||
| Then cover story. | ||
| Makes this whole thing up. | ||
| Now, of course, the teachers are, or the principal is like... | ||
| How did you learn to lie like this, you fucking insane person? | ||
| That was our first sign that Alex Jones is a psychopath. | ||
| Only great psychopaths can lie like that. | ||
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Eighth grade is 14. That's about when you become a psychopath. | |
| He had sex with a couple hundred girls before he was 16. A big one, small one, some as big as your head. | ||
| That's two years. | ||
| He's already sexually active at this point as a 14-year-old. | ||
| He has a notorious reputation around school for getting into race-based fights. | ||
| I think he probably bought a joint. | ||
| Oh, he absolutely bought that joint. | ||
| I remember my schools, you know, the kids who were into drugs usually were the ones who were fighting, especially at that age. | ||
| All kinds of troublemaking goes together, kind of. | ||
| You know, there's an umbrella thing. | ||
| Especially at least before, like, 16. Right. | ||
| I think if you're doing drugs at 16, you're great. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Good on you! | ||
| Yeah, but at 14, that's a little early. | ||
| And I would say if you're 16, like, slow it down. | ||
| No, weed's cool. | ||
| Don't make it, like, a part of your routine, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Enjoy it. | ||
| Turn it into a weekend thing. | ||
| That way you really enjoy it. | ||
| As opposed to just making another chore. | ||
| Like, I gotta buy milk. | ||
| I gotta buy weed. | ||
| Like, no, no, no. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Also, a past version of this story Alex Jones has told involved him believing that... | ||
| Like, when he would have been about the same age, he had a conspiracy that the schools or the police were actually selling drugs through the kids. | ||
| And so the fact that he doesn't bring up that stuff here, this is a completely different... | ||
| Childhood getting jammed up for drugs story. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which, again, even that other version of the story he tells, it could very easily be... | ||
| Oh, you got caught with drugs. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| You're just making up reasons to pretend you weren't the bad guy. | ||
| And what this is- Everything he does is making up reasons that- Look, I'm not saying I don't like black people. | ||
| They started the fights. | ||
| No, you absolutely started the fight. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Look, if somebody punches you after you call them the N-word- They started it. | ||
| They did not start that fight. | ||
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They started it. | |
| They didn't start that fight. | ||
| Alex, you started the fight. | ||
| That actually triggered something in my mind. | ||
| I want to say first, though, that it really brings things into focus when you see the narratives that he pushes in modern day as a 40-something-year-old man, and you just relate them to how child brains process. | ||
| It makes so much sense. | ||
| All of it starts to come into focus. | ||
| The other thing that I wanted to talk about was they released all the names, or not all of them, but the first batch of Twitter screen names of the people who were Russian bots. | ||
| And I was looking through the list, and it's fucking crazy. | ||
| It's so clear what they were up to. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There's so many screen names that are like, at Chicago Daily News. | ||
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Oh. | |
| News Daily. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Tons of different city names with Daily News to try and mimic legitimate news sites. | ||
| And then there were like, BLM Soldier. | ||
| There were a bunch of race-based screen names. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They were clearly used to sow division. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| March for Trump was one of them. | ||
| It's very clear. | ||
| I would say most of the ones that are on the list are facsimiles of real people's names. | ||
| And then there's a bunch that aren't. | ||
| And the ones that aren't fall very easily into, oh, geez. | ||
| This is exactly what Alex Jones has been doing. | ||
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Yep. | |
| There's Trump-positive ones. | ||
| There's racial division ones. | ||
| It's just so clear. | ||
| Well, and we already have the... | ||
| And that's only one batch. | ||
| We already covered it in What's-His-Face's book. | ||
| Also, there was one that's I underscore am underscore a underscore scatman. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Someone got the scatman's handle. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| I don't like the idea of scatman being a Russian bot. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| In fact, if that was all the Russian bots did is just... | ||
| A long list of different scatmans? | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| I'm all on board. | ||
| One of them was at Paris Gay, but gay had like five A's. | ||
| Like, all right, you guys. | ||
| Is that ironic? | ||
| It's clear that they have a... | ||
| At Paris Gay! | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| It's like, you guys have a much better understanding of social media than I expected. | ||
| They're very good. | ||
| These screen names, some of them are like, that looks like... | ||
| Something that someone would make as a joke? | ||
| It's pretty sophisticated. | ||
| Yeah, it's fucked up. | ||
| Because we talked about that one fucker's book, the intelligence guy who wrote the book on how to take down America 40 years ago. | ||
| Don't you remember that one? | ||
| Which guy was this? | ||
| One of the Russian intelligence operatives. | ||
| Wait, was it Alexander Dugan? | ||
| Was it Alexander Dugan? | ||
| Alexander Dugan had the one about creating racial division and shit like that. | ||
| Yes, that was the one. | ||
| The book that's taught at military schools in Russia. | ||
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That's the one. | |
| Yeah, that's Dugan. | ||
| And all of this stuff is right in line with that plan. | ||
| And let's remind everyone, Alexander Dugan has been a multiple-time guest on Alex Jones' show, and Alex has been on his show in Russia. | ||
| And Alexander Dugan's Twitter handle? | ||
| At I underscore ham underscore a scat man. | ||
| So that just came to my mind because you said you call someone the N-word, and one of the Twitter handles had a funny... | ||
| Twitter handle that involved the N-word. | ||
| And I don't know if you can say it just because it's a Twitter handle. | ||
| I don't know what's appropriate. | ||
| But it was at datfunny or datwisen. | ||
| I was like, alright. | ||
| Someone's been sitting on that. | ||
| That's pretty... | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| That's pretty wild. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, speaking of people who are manipulative... | ||
| The idea that Russian bots infiltrated black Twitter is going to be very, very strange for me. | ||
| I don't know if they did or not, but some of these names... | ||
| Well, they do have some pretty well-reported stories about how Russian ads funded a lot of different Black Lives Matter meetups and groups. | ||
| And anti. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And they had the competing Facebook of events that wound up working so that... | ||
| Two groups of people were just showing up to fight each other. | ||
| We're all bugs. | ||
| Facebook is fucked up. | ||
| I sincerely think... | ||
| I mean, I'm not going to because I don't really care about social media and it doesn't really affect me all that much. | ||
| And Lord knows we'd have even less listeners if we weren't on there. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| But I sincerely think that the crisis of our times... | ||
| Beyond even a lot of this propaganda and getting Trump out of office is we all have to walk away from social media. | ||
| It's very attractive and there's a lot of fun things you can do with it and what have you. | ||
| But I think it is something that is just ultimately not worth it. | ||
| The alternative is fix the education system and we're not doing that. | ||
| Once I read up on Cambridge Analytica, that was the moment where I was like... | ||
| Oh, maybe all of this is what's going to kill us. | ||
| Yeah, it'll get us to kill each other, for sure. | ||
| Like in Kingsman, the Secret Service, so Alex Jones has been right all along. | ||
| Predictive programming. | ||
| So Roger Stone comes on the show today. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| To beg for mercy. | ||
| He's mad about Twitter. | ||
| To get down on his knees like in Willard's Crossing, or what is it? | ||
| Miller's Crossing? | ||
| No. | ||
| He comes on, and Alex, the way the two of them say it. | ||
| Please, look into it. | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| He's in town in Austin to strategize, is what Alex says. | ||
| And we'll get to that in the next clip. | ||
| See how far away the border is. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Get real close to the fucking border. | ||
| So here's what Roger Stone has to say. | ||
| What do you make of this timing? | ||
| The NFL, Hollywood, it's all literally collapsing. | ||
| I don't think there's even forces behind the scenes doing it. | ||
| There's not. | ||
| People are pulling the plug on cable in general, and that's really hurting NFL's ratings. | ||
| And then Shane Copeland and I were having a conversation about this. | ||
| I didn't even realize that they made a new rule in the NFL that every touchdown has to be reviewed. | ||
| I didn't realize that, and that completely destroys the game. | ||
| Oh, it's awful. | ||
| Yeah, that makes it almost unwatchable. | ||
| I would have no enjoyment. | ||
| You can't celebrate with your team and what have you. | ||
| So the idea that the NFL is falling apart, it's their own fault. | ||
| They did this, and it predates any... | ||
| Not standing for the national anthem. | ||
| As they always would have. | ||
| Now you go to Hollywood, it's like, yeah, this has been an issue that's been broiling under the surface and people have been talking about for a while and it's coming forward because some people were brave enough to make it happen. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that's not, it's not a coincidence, but yeah, there are forces behind the scenes. | ||
| I just explained them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, Alex thinks it's God. | ||
| It's chaotic systems. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just think America's waking up, they're angry, they're not asleep anymore, and they're speaking out. | ||
| Very interestingly that, you know, I came on The War Room, and I laid out a scenario. | ||
| So I want to pause right there before he gets into the scenario, because I think there's an interesting thing that I've started to pick up on Infowars that I don't think we do a good enough job of pointing out, and that is whenever two people are talking to each other, they're not having a conversation. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's one person says something, and then the other person is like, well, here's the point I want to get into. | ||
| That's an interesting thing you said. | ||
| I'm not going to talk about it or engage with it at all. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's kind of like how you and I talk. | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| Let's go with this next clip. | ||
| By which the president should demand that Jeff Sessions appoint a special counsel to look into Uranium One. | ||
| This would have the net effect of putting Mr. Mueller, Mr. Comey, Mr. McCabe, the associate director of the FBI, And Rod Rosenstein, the de facto Attorney General of the United States. | ||
| In the hot seat where they deserve to be. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Immediately. | ||
| Peace on Vanity Fair yesterday. | ||
| Headline. | ||
| Why Roger Stone's plan won't work. | ||
| A piece on Raw Story. | ||
| The worst of the worst fake news left-wing seats. | ||
| Why Roger Stone's plan is falling apart. | ||
| You just told us what you fear. | ||
| You fear this move by Donald Trump? | ||
| Roger. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| You just told us what you fear. | ||
| Being made fun of. | ||
| No. | ||
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Like, they are so scared about this Russian investigation. | |
| They're so scared of Mueller. | ||
| Like, does he not realize that the things he's saying are like, they're transparent as shit. | ||
| Like, it's so easy to see through. | ||
| Here is the most desperate slapdash plan I can think together to stop a thing. | ||
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I'm not worried about it at all! | |
| Here's my 20-part plan and how we're going to defeat it. | ||
| I need to go to Austin to fucking get Alex Jones on board with this. | ||
| Every single part of this plan, wildly impossible. | ||
| But if they all fall into place... | ||
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Probably illegal, it would probably constitute a coup. | |
| The idea. | ||
| The very idea. | ||
| So we've appointed an independent special counsel. | ||
| Now, we can't get rid of them because people will get really pissed. | ||
| What we will do, though, is get rid of them. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
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A more independent special counsel led by, of course, Larry Klayman. | |
| And the only reason I know this is going to happen, Larry Nichols is blackmailing the GOP. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Ooh, we got to call him. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Because no one's gone down yet. | ||
| Mueller has released some indictments, and no one has gone down. | ||
| Larry Nichols hasn't shown up on Alex Jones' show. | ||
| There's been no blackmail. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Oh, also, by the way, I don't know, this is unconfirmed, but if you Google Larry Nichols, or if you... | ||
| I don't want to put his phone number out. | ||
| You're the first website that comes out, of course. | ||
| I don't want to put his phone number out there, but it turns out if you Google him, you can find it. | ||
| Yeah, it seems pretty easy. | ||
| Yeah, but be that as it may, if you Google the phone number, what comes up is a scam report. | ||
| There's a website that lists scams. | ||
| And there is someone who has listed a Larry Nichols scam report claiming that he doesn't have cancer and that he is defrauding people of money. | ||
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What?! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know if it's true. | ||
| He sounded pretty cancer-haven. | ||
| I could do a cancer voice. | ||
| If it's the matter of people sending me tons of money... | ||
| That's possible? | ||
| I know a bunch of things that I don't know. | ||
| No, I'm going to let this one go. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| Again, this is from this scam report. | ||
| This lady said that people have been getting scammed off, and she called the number and talked to him. | ||
| He gave the name of the hospital that he was getting treatment at. | ||
| She called the hospital, and there's no patient who goes there by the name of Larry Nichols. | ||
| Now, I don't know. | ||
| I want to believe it. | ||
| Can they even give her? | ||
| They couldn't give her that information. | ||
| I think they could. | ||
| Can you? | ||
| You can pretend to be like a family member. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So now somebody who's giving Larry Nichols money is also clever enough to scam a hospital into giving them private records? | ||
| That's a fair point. | ||
| It's probably not real, but I want it to be. | ||
| No, he's got cancer. | ||
| But at the same time, if you have lung cancer, why are you smoking on video in an Alex Jones documentary? | ||
| Because why the fuck wouldn't you? | ||
| Smoke him if you got him. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Anyway, I just want to believe it. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I'm sorry, Dan. | ||
| I'm sorry to pop a bubble of your conspiracy theory. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's not a conspiracy theory. | ||
| It's a scam report. | ||
| See, now that's what we should have called our fucking show. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But the other thing is that it fits Larry Nichols' character profile. | ||
| That's the only reason that I was like, maybe. | ||
| It does fit his character profile. | ||
| But also, do you remember how I started this? | ||
| I said, it's... | ||
| Maybe not real. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| But you said it like, it's maybe not real, but I want to believe in it somewhere. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Well, let's call him and talk to him. | ||
| Let's ask him. | ||
| Ooh, that'd be a good question. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex does not want to talk about the Al Gore lawsuit. | ||
| I'm not ready to tell folks about it yet, but you're here for us to meet Strategize. | ||
| You're being sued by the law firm of Obama. | ||
| He admits he put him up to it. | ||
| I have Al Gore. | ||
| I'm not ready to get to it. | ||
| Al Gore is directly... | ||
| I don't want to say it yet. | ||
| I'm actually proud. | ||
| I mean, wait until I tell you about this. | ||
| I just learned about it last night. | ||
| I mean, can you believe it? | ||
| Al Gore, man, he's got a lot of nerve. | ||
| And what's the allegation? | ||
| I'll tell you about it later. | ||
| I'm not sure the lawyers don't want us to go public with it yet. | ||
| I've been up against Al Gore before. | ||
| We are on the march. | ||
| The Empire. | ||
| That is a... | ||
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Commercial break! | |
| Commercial break! | ||
| Stop it! | ||
| Commercial break! | ||
| That also very clearly says to me, That was Buckley. | ||
| That was Buckley turning it off. | ||
| That was like, you are actually getting sued, Alex. | ||
| This is very serious. | ||
| And I don't think that Obama sicked his fucking law firm against Alex. | ||
| I'm sorry, against Roger Stone. | ||
| I don't think Al Gore is suing Alex. | ||
| Once he gets the details out, we'll be able to parse through it and figure out what the reality of the situation is. | ||
| But obviously, he probably slandered someone again. | ||
| No, I mean, we've proven pretty easily that he's slandered just about anybody who wants to sue him. | ||
| I mean, what was it, seven months ago we went over the Hamdi Ulukaya Chobani yogurt case. | ||
| He was very guilty there. | ||
| He got out of the Pizzagate thing just in time. | ||
| Although he still, he talks about Pizzagate on this episode. | ||
| He seems to think that, like... | ||
| Those videos he deleted from the internet don't exist anymore. | ||
| Yeah, there's no consequences, Dan. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Look, we have all of his shows. | ||
| He has committed at least 15 crimes in just the time that we've talked about. | ||
| And one of them might be treason. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| One of them might straight up be treason. | ||
| Or at the very least, conspiracy against the United States. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fucked up. | ||
| So anyway, here's a commercial. | ||
| Everything I do is about symbiosis. | ||
| Symbiotic. | ||
| Win-win. | ||
| Non-zero-sum game. | ||
| Everything I do is about a win-win. | ||
| It's far beyond superstition. | ||
| I'm obsessed with it, okay? | ||
| And so, I'm not like somebody like Harvey Weinstein who likes to torture women while he rapes them. | ||
| I like my wife to have as good a time as I'm having. | ||
| That's my enjoyment. | ||
| I'm not trying to get graphic here. | ||
| The point is that that's how Trump is too. | ||
| We want prosperity. | ||
| We want to win. | ||
| But to do that, you've got to energize us. | ||
| We energize you. | ||
| The enemy knows where the resistance is coming from. | ||
| They know we're the winning globally. | ||
| InfoWars is just the reboot of Americana. | ||
| I didn't invent it. | ||
| I just brought it back. | ||
| You brought it back. | ||
| All over the world, baby. | ||
| InfoWars. | ||
| We're leading the populist revolution. | ||
| You're saying... | ||
| That's not a good sentence. | ||
| I don't know necessarily. | ||
| Was that a sentence? | ||
| The last part. | ||
| The last clause. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't know if it's necessary. | ||
| Was any of that a sentence? | ||
| Or just a random mix of dot, dot, dots? | ||
| No, it was rambly as hell. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the idea that, at least in Alex Jones' mind, the way he perceives of his place in the world is that he's leading this populist charge all around the world. | ||
| These are populist movements, baby. | ||
| You've got to reassess what you are the mouthpiece of, because it might be on the wrong side. | ||
| Might? | ||
| Might be. | ||
| Furthermore... | ||
| Might just be. | ||
| You can't lead a nationalist movement globally. | ||
| Well, they make the argument that it's like, no, it is. | ||
| Everyone wants to have their own nations, and globalism is out, nationalism is super sexy, so we're a coalition of all these nations that just want our own nationalism. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I understand why that's maddening, but the way they... | ||
| What do you think is going to happen if they... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Let's just think about it. | ||
| Let's just think it through. | ||
| I know what you're going to... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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Fine. | |
| Now you go. | ||
| Now you... | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I know what you're going to say. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Say it. | ||
| You're going to say that, okay, so you guys have a bunch of... | ||
| Globally, there's a bunch of countries that are super nationalistic and out for their own interests. | ||
| Inevitably, they're going to end up fighting each other because they are nationalistic. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| That's a logical conclusion that most people come to. | ||
| But the reality is that that's probably not what they envision. | ||
| It's going to be like a conglomerate or connection of these nationalistic states that exploit and take resources from and more or less enslave all of these third world countries and probably all the brown places. | ||
| I was gonna say that, Dan. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Fuck you! | |
| I thought you were gonna go the dumb... | ||
| Jesus Christ, Dan! | ||
| I thought you were gonna go the dumb version. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| I thought you were gonna go the dumb version. | ||
| You really, really fucking went to town on me there. | ||
| Well, because we've... | ||
| That was cruel. | ||
| Well, we've gone down the dumb route before. | ||
| I know, but I was talking... | ||
| What I was saying is what they clearly don't get... | ||
| Is that if they are having... | ||
| Jordan, I know, I know. | ||
| If they are having... | ||
| Now you know how fucking I feel. | ||
| All right, I'm sorry. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We just had a public on-air fight. | ||
| I'm sorry, Dan. | ||
| It wasn't really a fight. | ||
| We love each other. | ||
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That was my impression of Alex. | |
| No, I mean, it's so stupid to imagine that, okay, you're leading, there's a centralized group of leaders leading a nationalist movement that's resurging, and what is going to happen if they do win? | ||
| Those leaders are already leading together. | ||
| They're going to cooperate. | ||
| You're just creating a different United Nations. | ||
| It's going to be a League of Nationalist Nations or something like that. | ||
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Or maybe an excess of power. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Yep, that is going to be what happens. | ||
| Anyway, here's Alex Jones getting super grandiose in his fears about Antifa. | ||
| You're saying I've been predicting this for six months. | ||
| The SJWs, the Antifa, the communist groups, have been saying we're going to launch our revolution November 4th, and many of them say we're going to kill cops, we're going to kill talk show hosts. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Those are their two priorities. | ||
| Cops and talk show hosts. | ||
| Well, we gotta solve the real problem. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Actually, I would argue. | ||
| That's prioritizing. | ||
| But Alex is so fucking grandiose. | ||
| What's on your list? | ||
| One or two? | ||
| I'm putting Alex up top. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But not for killing. | ||
| Again, we have to be super clear about that lest we be taken out of context. | ||
| Yeah, what we mean is politically. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Politically take him out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We just want the Second Amendment people to politically take him out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| To take care of that. | ||
| To take care of that problem. | ||
| I am even uncomfortable with that, lest we be taken out of context. | ||
| You know, I'm protected. | ||
| Anyway, Roger Stone is not just there just to have a strategy session about their various fake lawsuits, or real ones. | ||
| He also has some gossip that he wants to report as news. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And Alex says one of the stupidest things I've ever heard at the end of this clip. | ||
| Last night I was with a very high-level Republican lobbyist with very, very close ties to the Bush family and to Jeb Bush specifically. | ||
| He had just had lunch with Jeb, and Jeb told him confidently, Trump will be gone by December. | ||
| Trump will be gone by December. | ||
| What does that tell you? | ||
| Oh my God, we should have started the whole show with that. | ||
| In fact, take that clip right there. | ||
| No, start over. | ||
| Start over, and we're going to put that right in front of this interview. | ||
| This is so incredible. | ||
| Roger, folks, never bluffs. | ||
| He's got the intel. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Stone never bluffs. | ||
| I was hit with a polonium dart. | ||
| If there's anything you know about classic bullshitter Roger Stone, he doesn't bluff. | ||
| Never bluffs. | ||
| And even if he did bluff... | ||
| He wouldn't be bluffing about this. | ||
| He'd be bluffing politically. | ||
| And even if he was bluffing about this, he would bluff you about it. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| It's a double bluff. | ||
| What a fucking idiot. | ||
| This is what happens when you end up working and being partners with a manipulator. | ||
| Like, you don't do it for that reason. | ||
| You think that, like, you can team up with them. | ||
| Yeah, I'm using you as much as you're using me. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it turns out you're an idiot. | ||
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| Over time, the person who is more powerful in manipulation is going to be able to just run the roost, basically. | ||
| And that's what Roger Stone is doing with Infowars now, more or less. | ||
| I mean, Alex, he can get Alex... | ||
| Is that why you just shut me down earlier? | ||
| Because you want to... | ||
| You're manipulative. | ||
| Are you asserting dominance? | ||
| Is that what you're doing? | ||
| Look, you never bluff. | ||
| Look, this is what happens when me and my cat get a better relationship. | ||
| We become a power block. | ||
| You and I fucking get a worse one. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Well, it's like me and her are nationalistic. | ||
| I'm going to have to lead a populist uprising against you. | ||
| So this next clip, I'm going to call this. | ||
| I'm just going to go ahead and tell you ahead of time. | ||
| I usually like you to be blindsided by the pivots to ads. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I need to tell you ahead of time so you can track how he does it. | ||
| Because this is clunky as shit. | ||
| And this, to me, indicates massive desperation. | ||
| This, to me, indicates a severe situation that Alex is facing. | ||
| This is not just, I want another boat. | ||
| This is definitely like, I'm in trouble. | ||
| Because, you know, the New York Times says right here, that truck did it. | ||
| Do you know that it's like Christine, the Stephen King movie, or Maximum Overdrive? | ||
| You know, where the cars come alive and kill you? | ||
| Right here. | ||
| Autobots transform and murder. | ||
| Mile-long Manhattan truck attack kills eight. | ||
| I knew it was Megatron. | ||
| The truck had no driver, evidently. | ||
| Extraordinary. | ||
| Extraordinary. | ||
| Did he not yell Ali Akbar just before the attacks? | ||
| I've seen that in several media reports. | ||
| Why won't they... | ||
| Call the truth the truth. | ||
| Why won't they point out that this is Islamic terrorism at its worst? | ||
| And again, listeners know this. | ||
| I only generally plug once an hour over the years because that could fund us and we grew symbiotically, organically to the level we needed. | ||
| Now's the main attack. | ||
| Now's the war bonds. | ||
| So we're going to listen to the rest of this ad that he does because it's fucked up. | ||
| But at the same time, do you see that? | ||
| They were riffing on the car didn't have a driver. | ||
| And then apropos of nothing, he just goes into... | ||
| Everyone knows I only plug once an hour, which isn't true at all. | ||
| But listen to the rest of this bullshit. | ||
| You spend money with globalists, it's trading with the enemy. | ||
| You buy products at Infowarsstore.com, it is an act of total resistance to the globalists in Soros. | ||
| And for his billions, millions can counter that. | ||
| But we need millions, because I sell high-quality products at such low prices that... | ||
| I argue with some of my crew that are in marketing. | ||
| I think super low prices are the way to go. | ||
| The people just buy more. | ||
| Listen to the people who are in marketing. | ||
| We make more. | ||
| I'm right, kind of, but sometimes not, because then sometimes things are best-seller, sometimes they're not. | ||
| I need folks to go to InfowarStore.com and get one of, you know, 60, 70 t-shirts to spread the word, meet like-minded folks. | ||
| I need you to sign up for Autoship to get great products like DNA Force and great probiotics like Biome Defense and Brain Force Plus and a bunch of specials that end today. | ||
| InfowarStore.com or 888-253-33139. | ||
| One of my biggest stressors is trying to raise money to hire more crew to battle harder and fending off enemy attacks. | ||
| Flood us with cash. | ||
| It absolutely takes weight off us to spend time in information warfare. | ||
| So, I'm going to say it now. | ||
| You want us to fight? | ||
| Energize us. | ||
| Flood me with greenbacks, and I commit I'll go to the death. | ||
| But I need the money. | ||
| That's how I wage war. | ||
| Flood us with money now. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's brazen. | ||
| Flood us with money now. | ||
| I mean, as a sales pitch... | ||
| It's blunt. | ||
| It might be a little bit straightforward. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But in this day and age, people like a straight shooter. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No dancing around it. | ||
| This is the Bernie Sanders way of raising money. | ||
| No. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Give me all your money! | ||
| I will fight my fake enemies to the death. | ||
| I want to be one of the top 1%. | ||
| I mean, look... | ||
| The way this all shakes out, I think, the most likely scenario is a couple more indictments come down and Trump resigns. | ||
| I think that's probably what's going to happen because he's going to realize, if I don't, the entire family business is fucked. | ||
| Pence could probably pardon me and my family. | ||
| They work out some kind of backroom deal and that's going to happen. | ||
| We're going to have a problem with propaganda still. | ||
| Infowars is still going to be a problem. | ||
| All that stuff because they're not going to be like, Oh, he was guilty. | ||
| He stepped down. | ||
| Their narrative will be a completely, like, he was forced by the globalists. | ||
| They'll go back to the John Kelly is poisoning him narrative, possibly at that point. | ||
| There will be some sort of thing. | ||
| But, like, I don't know how I got off on that. | ||
| But, I mean, there's just this fake bullshit, man. | ||
| It's amazing to me. | ||
| You know what's really amazing to me? | ||
| Roger Stone describing it as Islamic terrorism at its worst. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is like... | ||
| Well, one, no. | ||
| And two, if it were, that's amazing. | ||
| We just had white terrorism at its worst, and holy shit! | ||
| It was about 50 times as many people got injured. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if you want to go with white supremacy, I guess they're better at murdering random people. | ||
| Because they believe it was a psyop with helicopters and shit. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| But that's the fun thing for me, is obviously Roger Stone knows that it wasn't. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So it's... | ||
| Like, for real. | ||
| Maybe the only real white supremacy is that white people are complete sociopaths willing to murder everybody, and that's how we got where we are today. | ||
| And certainly, as we see from listening to this much info, is willing to lie for each other. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Willing to lie desperately for each other to protect white supremacy. | ||
| Like, consider, most serial killers are white. | ||
| True. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Statistically, also most people who hurt children. | ||
| Is that a genetic trait? | ||
| Is it possible that that's a mutation of the regular white gene which is just taking over the world? | ||
| Leave cross eyes out of this. | ||
| Anyways, I am actually advocating for white genocide is what I'm saying right now. | ||
| You moved from a soft yes? | ||
| A soft yes to a hard yes. | ||
| Jesus, that's not good. | ||
| I mean, there's nowhere else to escalate. | ||
| This podcast is over. | ||
| I've decided there's only one solution to our problems and that's backwards ethnic cleansing. | ||
| Jordan, I've appreciated our time together. | ||
| I'm going to need a new co-host now. | ||
| This podcast is really just about me. | ||
| I've reached the apotheosis. | ||
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It's about you radicalizing people towards white genocide. | |
| I think if you showed enough people enough Infowars, eventually we'd all be like, it's not a bad idea. | ||
| I would say if you listen to our podcast and the dollop, it's game over for you. | ||
| There's no hope for white folk. | ||
| But that's, I mean, just to be, so we're super clear again, just because I'm so self-conscious about, like, Alex listening to this and taking it out of context or something like that, we don't think white people are evil. | ||
| We just think the tradition has been really terrible. | ||
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Right. | |
| The history is really awful. | ||
| There's nothing intrinsically evil about white skin. | ||
| You dumb fuck, Alex Jones, hypothetically listening to this show. | ||
| Because, for real, it's skin color. | ||
| Yeah, how do you not get that? | ||
| How are, where are we? | ||
| Idiot. | ||
| Not you, Alex. | ||
| I know, but we're still doing this? | ||
| Yeah, apparently. | ||
| Skin color? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a big thing. | ||
| Anyway, let's get back to this. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| I'm going to play this for you. | ||
| This is Alex Jones' karaoke moment of the day. | ||
|
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Burning inside! | |
| Burning inside! | ||
| With the fires of liberty! | ||
| You doing one of these? | ||
| Of the information world. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| It's Alex Jones. | ||
| That's what we are looking at. | ||
| Yeah, so he sings along with that a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, he's awesome. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| So we have one more clip of Roger Stone here, and it's about him being banned from Twitter. | ||
| Twitter needs to be regulated like a utility. | ||
| The phone company's a private company, but they can't deny you a telephone. | ||
| This is a First Amendment issue. | ||
| So there's a couple things. | ||
| First, Roger Stone is advocating for regulation on a private business, which is... | ||
| Also, it's not like a phone at all, because there are many platforms you can communicate with online, or you can not. | ||
| You can choose not to. | ||
| It's not as essential to your life. | ||
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Now, an internet connection is. | |
| Now, isn't it strange that the guy that you want in there is deregulating an internet connection? | ||
| Roger Stone! | ||
| Have you ever heard of hypocrisy? | ||
| Oh, yes, you have. | ||
| You're a fucking classic bullshitter. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's so infuriating. | ||
| He should be saying this about internet as a whole as opposed to saying it about a private business. | ||
| But the internet didn't hurt him. | ||
| Twitter hurt him. | ||
| So he has to lash out at Twitter. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| But that's what all of these people, like Stone is smart enough to know that what he's saying is dumb and it's only going to hurt people other than him. | ||
| And his audience is dumb. | ||
| He knows that too. | ||
| But that's the issue. | ||
| All of these people just blindly go along with regulation is bad and then when it finally touches them, they're like, oh. | ||
| Well, regulation is always bad, but not in this case. | ||
| It's a free speech issue. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Fuck all of you. | ||
| Go to gab with your neo-Nazi friends, you prick. | ||
| Yeah, no fucking shit. | ||
| You old glamour puss. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| I like calling him a glamour puss. | ||
| He is a glamour puss. | ||
| So, earlier I said that I took some issues with Media Matters. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And one of the issues was what we talked about there at the beginning, that they didn't really give the full context of... | ||
| The complaints. | ||
| Complaints is very generous. | ||
| The things that Alex was saying about this guy who attacked Manhattan with a truck. | ||
| But the thing that I think is irresponsible and derelict in their duty as media watchdogs is that they didn't listen to the rest of the episode. | ||
| Because the rest of the episode, towards the end, Alex Jones has an interview with a guy named Matt Bracken, who is a guy who is very much... | ||
| In favor of militaristic action against leftists and what have you. | ||
| He allegedly has a military background. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| He probably does. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I say allegedly because I haven't done any looking into him. | ||
| He always broadcasts on Skype from his den. | ||
| It's pretty cool looking. | ||
| I like his den. | ||
| All of his pictures are hung up. | ||
| I'll tell you that much about Matt Bracken. | ||
| I'm out! | ||
| Oh yeah, also, Garbage Dick, throwing this out, I appreciate you reminding me. | ||
| He is a novelist, and he's written a bunch of novels that purportedly... | ||
| Reveal truths about the world. | ||
| But it's all fiction. | ||
| Are they very Islamophobic? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Who would have guessed? | ||
| Garbage Dick has labeled him as a right-wing wank fiction author, and I think that's fair. | ||
| That's a solid, solid fucking criticism. | ||
| A lot of times he'll go on and pitch his books, like he'll plug his books and what have you. | ||
| But the reason I bring up Matt Bracken is... | ||
| It'd be fun if he wrote a book called... | ||
| How to hide your books. | ||
| Howtohideyourbooks.com. | ||
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Where to hide your books and where to never hide your books. | |
| So Matt Bracken comes on. | ||
| Dead. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Everywhere else. | ||
| No. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Gun safe. | ||
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No. | |
| Put your guns there. | ||
| Duh. | ||
| Media Matters should be talking about Matt Bracken. | ||
| Because he is the more important issue. | ||
| And I know that it's not as sexy because most people don't know who he is. | ||
| People know who Alex Jones is. | ||
| Or Linda Sarsour. | ||
| But even in that case, they could have done a better job talking about all the stuff that was around that clip and what they talked about about Linda Sarsour being compared to. | ||
| And he said that Linda Sarsour looks like this guy's brother, which is another. | ||
| Freudian slip. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Media matters. | ||
| I don't think that was a Freudian slip. | ||
| I think he was legitimately trying to call her a man. | ||
| I was being more generous than I probably should have been, but you're probably right. | ||
| He was calling her a man. | ||
| I would agree. | ||
| That's probably what he was doing. | ||
| Media matters. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Get your clicks based on your dumb headline. | ||
| But let us help. | ||
| But then let us write the article, you fucking idiots. | ||
| Or not, don't call them fucking idiots because there's a chance they might still come on board. | ||
| There is not. | ||
| They never will. | ||
| I advocate white genocide. | ||
| They're not hiring us. | ||
| Yeah, we're in trouble. | ||
| Look, you can really monetize this thing. | ||
| We're in trouble with the corporate left. | ||
| They're not going to be on board. | ||
| Yeah, they're not a big fan of mine. | ||
| Unfortunately, it seems like also Antifa and the Democratic Socialists aren't on board with us either. | ||
| So... | ||
| Oh, they're not? | ||
| Eh, maybe a couple. | ||
| Maybe a couple folks. | ||
| But also Soros, he's not helping us out. | ||
| It's a real shame. | ||
| Oh, I thought, I was halfway thinking, like, wait, did Antifa, like, contact you? | ||
| And we're like, hey, tone down the white genocide. | ||
| Like, don't be so obvious. | ||
| Hey, hey, hey. | ||
| Look, also, November 4th, you know what to do. | ||
| Stay indoors. | ||
| So, Matt Bracken is what they should be focusing on, because he says a lot of stuff that is much worse than Alex, I believe. | ||
| And if we were the people who people could rely on to cover Alex Jones' stuff, we'd have an article about him. | ||
| And maybe we will. | ||
| Maybe that's something we'll incorporate in the future onto knowledgefight.com. | ||
| But here's Alex welcoming Matt Bracken on the show, and he's talking about Islam being bad. | ||
| And here's his first clip. | ||
| But the actual translation of Allah Akbar is not God is great. | ||
| That's a big mistake. | ||
| When they say Allah who and they put the ooh on the end of Allah, that means greater. | ||
| It means Allah is greater than your God. | ||
| Allah who Akbar is our God. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| They're saying our God dominates you. | ||
| We are defeating you. | ||
| We are greater than you. | ||
| We have conquered you. | ||
| Can't think of anybody else who says that. | ||
| No, and also that's not true. | ||
| Much like he says raza, la raza means the race, it means the people. | ||
| He's mistranslating. | ||
| And Matt Bracken is kind of right on some level, but he's wrong in his interpretation, according to mainline Islamic scholars. | ||
| Allahu Akbar does sometimes mean God is greater, but the understanding generally is that God is greater than you. | ||
| God is greater than your problems. | ||
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Right. | |
| God is greater than the things that are your issues, and greater than you. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| To put you in your place in terms of the hierarchy of God and man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Allah and man. | ||
| It's meant as like the footsteps in the sand bullshit. | ||
| Or even God will never give you more than you can handle. | ||
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Right. | |
| God is omnipotent. | ||
| There's that connotation to it. | ||
| The other thing is the other translation of Allahu Akbar. | ||
| Which, if God is omnipotent, he is by definition greater than your God. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Unless your God is omnipotent. | ||
| You gotta unpack that. | ||
| In which case... | ||
| Neither god is omnipotent. | ||
| Or one of them is and the other one isn't. | ||
| But then both of them would have to be real, and then we'd really get the good fight. | ||
| And could one of the gods become big enough that the other couldn't lift him? | ||
| Could one of the gods become a big enough mountain that the other could lift him? | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Also, the other translation, a very common translation of Allahu Akbar, is God is greatest. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that is not God is the greatest God, because... | ||
| All these religions are monotheistic! | ||
| Islam is an awesome girl. | ||
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He rents from heaven above with wisdom, power, and love. | |
| And now we're darlings of the Christian right. | ||
| That's all it took. | ||
| Give us money. | ||
| Focus on the family. | ||
| We harmonized pretty nicely. | ||
| That wasn't bad. | ||
| Look, this is what happens when you're raised in the fucking church. | ||
| Let's have communion. | ||
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There we go. | |
| All right. | ||
| That didn't go over well with the chat room. | ||
| This blood do I drink of your flesh. | ||
| Also, Garbage Dick dropped in some of Matt Bracken's book titles. | ||
| Here we have... | ||
| Donkey Dick's three. | ||
| Enemies Foreign and Domestic. | ||
| Domestic Enemies. | ||
| The Reconquista. | ||
| Foreign Enemies and Traitors. | ||
| I thought this was all one title. | ||
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No, no. | |
| Those are three titles. | ||
| That is unwieldy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's what he's got. | ||
| Also, he is a mess. | ||
| Here is his next clip. | ||
| And, you know, as mad as I am at this terrorist, his name is literally Sword of Allah. | ||
| You know, nobody of our extreme vetting picked up on the fact that his parents named this boy Sword of Allah, and he won the ISIS lottery to come to America and bring 28 more, I just heard today, bring 28 of his closest inbred family here. | ||
| Which I'm sure they're all on welfare. | ||
| They're plotting more jihad attacks. | ||
| We pay for them, everything, and then they hate us because we're creative and we're not inbred. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| Says the least creative, most inbred Texan I know. | ||
| Yeah, so the guy who did do the truck attack, his name is very similar to what would be transliterated as the sort of Allah. | ||
| But that doesn't mean anything. | ||
| You know what Ariel means? | ||
| The name Ariel? | ||
| Lion of God. | ||
| Lions are violent animals. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| They name anyone Ariel. | ||
| That means that they fucking are vicious killers in the name of God. | ||
| Or a mermaid. | ||
| You know what Brandon means? | ||
| Mermaid? | ||
| Sword. | ||
| In Celtic. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What about Terry? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what Terry means. | ||
| I didn't prepare every name. | ||
| I was about to start shooting names. | ||
| There's another... | ||
| I can't remember what it is, but there is a very common Anglo name that does mean Sword of God. | ||
| Like, it is a common name. | ||
| I don't remember what it is. | ||
| I thought it was David, but that's Gift of God. | ||
| No, names that are from any kind of monotheistic tradition are going to wind up being murder-filled. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of violence within names. | ||
| You know what Daisy means? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Cockblocker. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Little Flower Cockblocker. | ||
| That was Jesus' nickname. | ||
| So the other thing, I mean, you know, Matt Bracken's getting more into the inbreeding stuff. | ||
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| And I guess, I mean, this guy had been here since 2010. | ||
| So it is entirely possible that... | ||
| He won the ISIS lottery in 2010? | ||
| We're going to get back to that. | ||
| When ISIS was around? | ||
| We're going to get back to that. | ||
| In 2010 when they were having lotteries? | ||
| We're going to get back to that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But he came in 2010 and there's a prohibition against any welfare being given to folk within five years of becoming a citizen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so it is seven years after it's possible that they were on assistance at that point. | ||
| Don't care. | ||
| It also doesn't matter. | ||
| Don't care. | ||
| So Bracken is just throwing around a lot of... | ||
| I get the idea that the argument is, my tax dollars are going to pay for people plotting to take down America. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But that's a dumb argument. | ||
| It's dumb, and what's behind it really is just, I hate these people. | ||
| Yeah, it's just pure racism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's the welfare queen. | ||
| It's the modern welfare queen, is all it is. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I hate black people, so I'm going to... | ||
| Which again, go listen to the dollop. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Great episode. | ||
| We were there. | ||
| Yeah, we were. | ||
| Yeah, we recorded it live in Chicago. | ||
| But also the... | ||
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Bracken. | |
| No. | ||
| What I was trying to... | ||
| Well, I did that little scat there. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because you're a Russian bot. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| What I was trying to come out with was the idea that... | ||
| Matt Bracken is reinforcing also this idea that there is only one sort of Muslim. | ||
| It's a race. | ||
| And it's predeterminative. | ||
| So here's the last clip of him, and it's not good. | ||
| Tommy Robinson, the Brit, has a great book on the Koran, why Muslims kill for the Koran. | ||
| You can't reform Islam. | ||
| It is the Ten Commandments are all kill, kill, kill. | ||
| There's no way to take it out. | ||
| And so he thinks he's doing something good, and then Jake Dapper goes, it is so beautiful. | ||
| That's all a direct code to them saying, just like we supported the Arab Spring at CNN, we support you, brother. | ||
| Good job. | ||
| Just make sure it's a church next time. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| That's pretty dog-whistly. | ||
| I mean, it's beyond. | ||
| What's fascinating is... | ||
| What happens, Dan, if you break one of the Ten Commandments? | ||
| You go to hell? | ||
| No, you shall be put to death. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, I don't think there is a... | ||
| As well as all the laws from Deuteronomy. | ||
| I know that every late night show has some version of the top ten list because David Letterman did it and was so successful, but I don't think that every religion has a Ten Commandments just because... | ||
| Top ten. | ||
| Just because the Bible was so successful with it doesn't mean that that's in every religion. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, his understanding of shit is very whack. | ||
| And the idea that all the commandments are to kill in Islam. | ||
| We've gone over this over and over again. | ||
| The analyses that have been done about violence in the Bible and the Quran show that the Bible is not a ton, but a little bit more violent. | ||
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| So, I don't know. | ||
| It's just a dumb conversation. | ||
| Also, if all Ten Commandments are to kill... | ||
| I can't lounge in my chair. | ||
| I completely disappear from camera. | ||
| If all Ten Commandments were to kill, you could have gotten the point off with four. | ||
| Like, if you're like, Commandment number one, kill. | ||
| Commandment number two, kill. | ||
| Commandment number three, kill. | ||
| Like, you got it. | ||
| You don't need to go through... | ||
| Be sure to do your laundry. | ||
| Five, kill. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, brevity is the soul of wit. | ||
| But it is not the soul of religions. | ||
| Or killing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Also, Tommy Robinson is a disastrous bigot. | ||
| He is a British version of Alex Jones to some degree. | ||
| Every time you bring his name up, I always think of Tommy Davidson. | ||
| He sells Pozzones in England. | ||
| First thought in my mind. | ||
| Why is that the only reference I have for Tommy Davidson? | ||
| Mad TV? | ||
| He's been in movies. | ||
| No, he was on In Living Color, right? | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| He was on In Living Color. | ||
| I don't think he was on Mad TV. | ||
| No, he wasn't on Mad TV. | ||
| But he sold Pozzones. | ||
| He did? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was the Pizza Hut spokesman whenever Pozzones came out. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, Mad Bracken's a disaster. | ||
| Anyway, yesterday we went over, we, I've started to call myself we apparently. | ||
| You and Cthulhu. | ||
| Me and the chat room, we went over the big story. | ||
| Big, big story. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| So Mike Cernovich was trying to give a speech in New York at Columbia University. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because he likes to rile people up. | ||
| And he needs publicity stunts in order to keep himself relevant. | ||
| And Columbia allowed him to do this? | ||
| I mean, free speech, baby. | ||
| You know, you can exploit it pretty far. | ||
| Wow, Columbia sucks. | ||
| Mike Cernovich was giving a speech there and some Antifa came to protest. | ||
| And they had a sign that said, no white supremacy, no pedo bashing, no Mike Cernovich. | ||
| I wonder which thing they focused on. | ||
| No, but that was one sign that they had. | ||
| Now, when you hear me tell you that, what's your first thought about the sign? | ||
| Like, you see a picture of that. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| A plant. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| You are a cuck. | ||
| You are a dumb libtard cuck. | ||
| Did I just get dumb libtard cucked? | ||
| Alex talked about it for about a third of his show yesterday. | ||
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That's what I imagined. | |
| It's proof that the pedos are coming out of the woodwork. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| There was a reporter from Gothamist who was on site and he took a bunch of pictures that show that it was just somebody came up in a mask and unfurled the sign in front of protesters and told them to hold it. | ||
| And immediately when they saw what it was, they tore it up and destroyed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that it was clearly an alt-right plant. | ||
| The guy in the mask disappeared. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And they got a good picture, though. | ||
| I mean, not a good picture, but they got a picture that's good enough. | ||
| All you need it. | ||
| And you know what Owen Schroyer said the other day? | ||
| Not the other day, but a couple weeks back. | ||
| Optics become the story. | ||
| Ah. | ||
| And that is exactly what's happened here. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So today... | ||
| Oh, and the other thing that was really fun is the guy, the Gothamist reporter. | ||
| I feel really bad that I can't remember his name. | ||
| But he was reporting that, of course, the sign got destroyed immediately and that Antifa people who were there were like, they didn't even print out our logo right. | ||
| The flag, it was the wrong color in the logo. | ||
| So it was like, there's no way that we did it. | ||
| It's obviously someone who's not involved with us. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And it had a Nambla sign on it, like a Nambla logo. | ||
| And we went over this yesterday, but just so you know. | ||
| Which is just overkill. | ||
| Come on, dude. | ||
| Well, but Vice did an investigation into Nambla and found that they have no members. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say, isn't it a joke? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it used to exist in some... | ||
| It used to exist, but now it's just a punchline because of Arrested Development. | ||
| It's a spooky thing. | ||
| It's just something for these folks to throw as a boogeyman. | ||
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Right. | |
| So it was a complete stunt. | ||
| It was a complete nonsense publicity stunt. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And I would not be surprised if Mike Cernovich was keenly aware of it, or at least someone involved with him was. | ||
| Maybe Jack Posobiec. | ||
| They've done that shit before, though. | ||
| Jack Posobiec with the rape Melania sign and shit like that. | ||
| But anyway, Mike Cernovich comes on the show today on November 1st, and here is him talking about it. | ||
| Mike Cernovich, what is the point of them saying nothing's coming November 4th, but then full-page ads saying we're going to overthrow Trump on November 4th? | ||
| There's apparently a full-page ad in the New York Times, but it's not about, hey, we're going to start a civil war on November 4th. | ||
| It's about protests. | ||
| It's about rallies. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which is, as far as I know, part of the Constitution, part of those amendments. | ||
| Never heard of it. | ||
| Free assembly, free speech. | ||
| Disagree with all that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, I mean, Alex... | ||
| You're on shaky ground. | ||
| Bring the Ten Commandments with you wherever you go. | ||
| That's what the Constitution says in my book. | ||
| Did you notice? | ||
| Okay, so you couldn't possibly have noticed at this point, but this is exactly like that other Roger Stone clip where Alex asks one question and Mike Cernovich just answers another. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he's asking, hey, why do they say nothing's going to happen on the fourth and then this ad? | ||
| And then you'll see his answer. | ||
| What is going on here? | ||
| I mean, they're so weird and unhinged. | ||
| And as we learn from... | ||
| When Antifa was carrying a pedophile sign, and then they go, oh, well, we didn't even mean to carry it. | ||
| Someone just handed it to us. | ||
| Like, wait, so if somebody hands you a pedophile sign, you're just going to carry around whatever anybody hands you? | ||
| They're not thinking. | ||
| So that indicates to me that this was sort of like... | ||
| That's called being polite. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Mike Cernovich, that's called being polite. | ||
| Well, but that's the sort of reaction you can expect out of people in order to, like, exploit them. | ||
| You know, you know that, like, oh, can you hold this for me for a second or something like that? | ||
| Like, it's like... | ||
| You probably wouldn't do that at an airport. | ||
| I was going to use the example of someone asking you to hold their bags. | ||
| Could you hold this comically cartoonish bomb for me? | ||
| It's got a giant fuse on it. | ||
| It's a big circle. | ||
| It's a cake. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| It's from the cake box. | ||
| What's that fuse doing? | ||
| Oh, that's just the fondant. | ||
| Alright, I guess I'll hold it. | ||
| Well, let's say someone gave you... | ||
| I don't even know how to make an analogy because my brain keeps going to like... | ||
| A goblet covered in shit or something like that. | ||
| And you hold it for them. | ||
| That's a weird analogy. | ||
| You hold it for them not knowing. | ||
| They're like, ha ha, look at you. | ||
| You're holding a goblet full of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| You're like, I was just being polite. | ||
| Yeah, that wasn't. | ||
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I don't understand what's going on. | |
| Yeah, that's not a prank. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| That's just you taking advantage of a human being being a human being to you. | ||
| And him knowing that people would respond that way makes me kind of think that he might have been behind it. | ||
| Who, Cernovich? | ||
| Yeah, because he has this line ready to go. | ||
| And it's possible that he just came up with it since then. | ||
| That's possible, too. | ||
| He's got time to workshop it. | ||
| I mean, Roger Stone is around today. | ||
| This next clip makes me more suspicious that he might have been in on it. | ||
| And then they go, well, somebody gave it to him. | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
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Who? | |
| Who? | ||
| No proof at all. | ||
| But like you said yesterday... | ||
| First of all, no proof at all. | ||
| There were people on site who saw the entire thing and documented it with pictures. | ||
| There is proof. | ||
| That it wasn't the people who were holding the rally who were marching with a pedophile sign. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now they're having to admit false flags could exist. | ||
| Let me go back to this, actually, because I need Alex's full sentence to be in here. | ||
| This is important. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Who? | |
| Who? | ||
| No proof at all. | ||
| But like you said yesterday, now they're having to admit false flags could exist. | ||
| Right, which is a fantastic narrative win. | ||
| So from my perspective, I don't care if it was some people maybe from 4chan or something who pranked them. | ||
| I don't care, because we win either way. | ||
| Whoops. | ||
| Kind of gave up the game there a little bit. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| That is giving up the game pretty hard there. | ||
| I don't care if I'm pushing a fake story because we win either way. | ||
| So like, hey, let's say one of these people that I'm really involved with in this 4chan Reddit conspiracy propaganda world. | ||
| So let's say one of them did it. | ||
| Now the left is going to have to admit that false flags happened. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Like helicopters shooting at people in Las Vegas? | ||
| Oh, wait, hold on. | ||
| Someone did give someone a sign and someone took a picture of it. | ||
| I guess 9-11 was fake. | ||
| True. | ||
| I guess Sandy Hook didn't happen. | ||
| Alright, so, I'm not lying to you. | ||
| I am lying to you. | ||
| But what if I'm not? | ||
| But even if I am? | ||
| What if I'm not? | ||
| And I am. | ||
| But who cares? | ||
| He might as well just be making noises. | ||
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Liberal. | |
| That might as well just be the show. | ||
| It's them having clips up where they're like, liberal. | ||
| And then the next one goes... | ||
| Like, that's all you're fucking doing. | ||
| You're wasting my life. | ||
| A better show would be, like, just Alex screaming at a monkey, pissing in his own face. | ||
| That would fucking go viral, my friend. | ||
| That would be a great episode. | ||
| All right, look, Steve Pachana can't come on anymore. | ||
| We got Coco the gorilla coming in to piss in her own face. | ||
| It's gonna be great. | ||
| Isn't Coco dead? | ||
| There's other Cocos. | ||
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Come on. | |
| Okay, I meant the Coco. | ||
| You said Coco the gorilla, which suggests you're talking about. | ||
| There's a lot of gorillas named Coco. | ||
| It suggests you're talking about the sign language speaking gorilla. | ||
| There's a lot of gorillas that speak sign language. | ||
| Also, Disney's Pixar Coco coming out sometime. | ||
| It was very important to the plot of the movie Congo. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That was Amy, though. | ||
| That was Amy. | ||
| Yeah, there you go. | ||
| You are ugly. | ||
| And that wasn't sign language. | ||
| She had a voice box. | ||
| I know, but come on. | ||
| Let's move on. | ||
| She spoke sign language. | ||
| So, anyway, I told you to hold on to your thoughts about that lottery, and now we're going to get back to it. | ||
| And now I'm holding on to my butt. | ||
| Let's do this. | ||
| That was Jurassic Park. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, during the break, I walked back into the break room to get a cup of coffee, and Chuckie Schumer was on Fox News live in the Senate, blaming Trump for New York. | ||
| This is the guy that got the bill passed with Obama. | ||
| He sponsored it. | ||
| He rewrote it. | ||
| He's the chief sponsor of the diversity lottery, the cultural enrichment, as the EU calls it. | ||
| We didn't make up these sick jokes. | ||
| No, but you're lying. | ||
| Let me read to you here. | ||
| In 1987, the U.S. government under President Ronald Reagan decided to found an official immigration lottery called the Diversity Visa Lottery. | ||
| Through this program, they wanted to make sure the diversity of nations in the United States of America would be preserved in the future because they regarded it as a characteristic feature of the American nation. | ||
| The Immigration DV Green Card Lottery still exists today, and thousands enter it every year in order to receive a green card, the permission to become a legal and permanent resident allowed to work in the United States. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Alex, you don't know anything. | ||
| Well, it was Chuck Schumer and Obama at the time. | ||
| You don't know anything. | ||
| Like, why is he... | ||
| Why would anyone listen to him? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| Because he can say it so confidently. | ||
| I just said that pretty confidently. | ||
| I know, and I believe you. | ||
| If Media Matters would get our back, and you would stop talking about white genocide. | ||
| Alright, that's why we're fucked. | ||
| Alright, okay. | ||
| Dan, I make you this promise. | ||
| Reagan did this. | ||
| I will only call for white genocide if you say Reagan to me a lot. | ||
| Reagan got that diversity passed, the diversity lottery. | ||
| Yeah, good. | ||
| Because in the middle of it should be white genocide. | ||
| In between peggings. | ||
| That's my favorite piece of InfoWars news we've ever covered. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex talks about, he brings up the Don Jr. outing that he did. | ||
| Also, it is Trump's fault for New York. | ||
| Yeah, more or less. | ||
| Well, not directly. | ||
| There's a lot of dynamics involved. | ||
| True. | ||
| But ultimately, one of the... | ||
| Let's say, just for safety's sake and accuracy's sake, his hands are not clean. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's what I would say. | ||
| Terrorism only arises whenever there are so many people who feel like there's nowhere else to go. | ||
| When your justice system doesn't work. | ||
| When you're poor, when you have no money, when there's no social safety net, there's nothing to deal with there. | ||
| It's a corollary of rioting as the voice of the unheard. | ||
| And when you've got nothing left to lose. | ||
| Why wouldn't you be a suicide bomber? | ||
| You can't be this fucking stupid not to understand that historical dynamic. | ||
| Oh, you sure can. | ||
| It's Islam. | ||
| Yeah, we found that out. | ||
| So anyway, you remember that Alex Jones outed Donald Trump Jr. as one of Mike Cernovich's sources in the past? | ||
| They talk about it on this episode. | ||
| Soon to be in prison, Donald Trump Jr.? | ||
| They discuss it here. | ||
| They take your humanity as weakness. | ||
| Like one time, I actually gave up one of your sources. | ||
| You didn't get really mad at me. | ||
| I said, I had a brain fart. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| He said, hey, that's okay. | ||
| But you didn't take it as like a power over me. | ||
| But exactly, that's how they are. | ||
| Yeah, I even forgot that even happened. | ||
| Again, yeah, I never even brought it up ever again. | ||
| You just realize that's life. | ||
| And I was making it up. | ||
| So, I mean, who cares? | ||
| Why wouldn't you bring that up? | ||
| Like, in the real world... | ||
| That would be huge! | ||
| Well, also, that could get someone killed. | ||
| That got Reality Winner fucking tossed in prison. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, that sort of thing, that behavior, the outing of a source. | ||
| That Alex did on air when he said he had a brain fart. | ||
| That's life and death. | ||
| Which is one of the most protected and most challenged situations in First Amendment speech cases. | ||
| And beyond your source. | ||
| Being killed, possibly, for giving the information that they're not supposed to give. | ||
| That's your credibility out the window. | ||
| Why would any source ever talk to you again? | ||
| And he knows he doesn't need them because he doesn't have sources. | ||
| They're not real. | ||
| They just go to 4chan and be like, hey, what's on poll today? | ||
| That's all they do. | ||
| They don't have sources. | ||
| Alex pretends he does, and then his caller is calling. | ||
| Do you believe that's exactly what my secret information was? | ||
| That's all they do. | ||
| This is such horse shit. | ||
| The Emperor has no clothes. | ||
| No one cares. | ||
| No, the kid cares, and then at the end he's beheaded. | ||
| Don't you remember that story? | ||
| Oh, what did he violate one of the commandments? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So here's a clip about Charlotte's Bill. | ||
| He violated Commandment 6, which is to kill. | ||
| He did not. | ||
| Alright, here's a clip about Charlotte's Bill being fake. | ||
| We can have big marches. | ||
| We can bring a lot of people out. | ||
| And it shows how weak they are. | ||
| They were so afraid of your Google march. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| We were going to do a march on Google, and then they used Fed embeds with these alt-right morons in Charlotte's Bill. | ||
| By the way, our admitted Obama, Occupy Wall Street, three of them were formerly funded by the Occupy Wall Street that's now refused fascism. | ||
| I mean, it's totally obvious. | ||
| They're all little pretty boy, strumpet leftists who think they're smart enough to false flag us. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That just, I mean... | ||
| Smart enough to false flag you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I false flagged you. | ||
| The guy who committed the terrorist act? | ||
| Hard right. | ||
| He was an alt-righter. | ||
| He was a white supremacist. | ||
| There's a great comment. | ||
| Much like the Reverend Manning is an Oreo by his own words. | ||
| So was this fucking... | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Who cares what his fucking name is? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm going to read this comment from Goatware in the chat room. | ||
| Back when Gamergate started, there was some good analysis, which happened to apply to Cernovich back then, too, because Cernovich was involved in Gamergate, about how a lot of their strategy involved false flags because they were convinced that their opponents were using them against them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that is the mentality that they live in, and that's why he's fine with who cares what the truth is. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| And that's why he's like, oh, yeah, of course. | ||
| Mike Cernovich and Alex Jones and all these people are so caught up in their whiteness that they can't possibly believe that anything a white person does that's monstrous is real. | ||
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Right. | |
| So they create this whole narrative of false flaggery and stuff like that, which justifies it to them to use it against the liberals. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Everything they think we're doing is what they're doing. | ||
| But it's more complicated than that. | ||
| It's more complicated and more provable than that. | ||
| That's what he says. | ||
| And I don't ever want to use the exact rhetoric that he uses because it's cowardly. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| What I'm saying is it's utter ironic horseshit. | ||
| That's what is going on there. | ||
| More or less. | ||
| And it's a bummer because this is what we're against. | ||
| And I don't mean liberals. | ||
| I don't mean Antifa. | ||
| This is what the world is against. | ||
| It's critical to our survival. | ||
| I don't think that we get sunshine and everybody gets a sandwich. | ||
| They stop this, but them doing these things all the time and riling up millions of people to be duped by them, I mean, what it serves to do is make sure that no one gets a sandwich because we've got to babysit these fucks all the time. | ||
| Because that's what we're doing, just no one's paying attention. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like, we are essentially babysitting and cleaning up the mess that Alex Jones makes every day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| I mean, we should have thousands more listeners. | ||
| Well, and ultimately... | ||
| Then again, how would... | ||
| That's what every fucking relatively intelligent person has done with the rest of the shitty human race for our entire existence. | ||
| Right, and a lot of people are doing a lot better job on other global issues, and I think a lot of people are doing a better job about Trump and what have you, because we don't focus too much on him except where it relates to Alex. | ||
| But no one is doing a good job about Alex. | ||
| Very few people are doing a good job about propaganda, except as it relates to Russian stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is the focus right now, of course. | ||
| For good reason. | ||
| They stole an election. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's the hot talk and what have you. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| It's just like, please take care of that, folks. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Please take care of that. | ||
| But realize once it's over... | ||
| We still got this mess. | ||
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| And we're just getting a head start on cleaning it up. | ||
| One day, one day, when it all, like, when everyone starts to be like, oh, shit, Alex Jones is leading a real militia, we'll be like, we've been saying this for five years. | ||
| No one is listening. | ||
| Like, do you understand, like, Matt Bracken is leading a guerrilla anti-Muslim unit. | ||
| I'm telling you, Dan, posthumously, we are going to be thought of as gods. | ||
| Oh, yeah, someone is probably, I mean, if we ever do, like, Actually successful. | ||
| We're going to get the shit kicked out of us by Proud Boys. | ||
| Oh, it's going to be fantastic. | ||
| That's what we got to look forward to. | ||
| Maybe being able to pay our rent and getting beat up by the Alt Knights. | ||
| Great. | ||
| I'm not too concerned about the... | ||
| I refuse to say that. | ||
| Proud Boys? | ||
| I'm not too concerned about the Nazis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But also, I mean, they have a Chicago unit. | ||
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| You're not too concerned about them, but Alex is really concerned about being sued. | ||
| And I know I've been making that point over and over. | ||
| That was a great transition, Ben. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I'm back. | ||
| I'm making that point over and over again because that is the story of this episode. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let me ask you about November 4th when they kicked this thing off. | ||
| I actually... | ||
| My lawyers don't want me to get into it, but I mean, literally, Al Gore. | ||
| His whole deal. | ||
| Like, telling me I better roll over by November 4th and all this other stuff. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| We are on the march. | ||
| The Empire is on the run. | ||
| Nervous fake laugh. | ||
| Yeah, and again, they cut him off by ramping up that, like, sound drop. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's... | ||
| I mean, it's legit. | ||
| Something is gonna come out in the next few days, probably. | ||
| But also, the idea that he's saying that Al Gore has told him to lay down by November 4th. | ||
| It's fucking bullshit. | ||
| He's just trying to bolster his narrative. | ||
| He's probably getting sued by... | ||
| I wouldn't even be too surprised if it was Hamdi Yulakaya again. | ||
| From a marketing standpoint, though, he is doing a great job from a marketing standpoint in that he is giving you a call to action with an end date. | ||
| If he just said, they're coming for me, that works to just kind of... | ||
| But that's exactly what he's been doing for a long time. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| It's not good marketing unless you know when you need the money specifically. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That might be the case. | ||
| Well, that's... | ||
| I mean, he's pulling his own Black Friday. | ||
| That's what he's doing right here. | ||
| Yeah, more or less. | ||
| We got deals that are going to expire November 4th because the world's going to end. | ||
| And if it was a month and a half ago, we would be very clear it's the end of the fiscal year. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But timing doesn't make sense this time. | ||
| Timing makes sense for a lawsuit. | ||
| I think it's a lawsuit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think there's an entire possibility that he has run afoul of their agreement. | ||
| Whatever agreement they made in court. | ||
| The ceasefire he and Al Gore signed after an inconvenient truth? | ||
| No, the agreement that he made with Chobani after slandering them and them letting him off the hook. | ||
| There's a chance, because he has been going on air. | ||
| He has absolutely broken that agreement. | ||
| He's been going on air a bunch and saying they're lucky they got out of that and taunting and stuff like that. | ||
| I could see that, but then also, here's one theory I have. | ||
| I don't think it's this, but it's entirely possible. | ||
| Because Alex... | ||
| For the longest time has been saying, you know, in terms of Sandy Hook, we just had debates. | ||
| We played both sides. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We just played devil's advocate. | ||
| Even though he is still denying that it happened. | ||
| Well, he hasn't been. | ||
| But a week ago, he did. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He straight up said it's fake as a $3 bill. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think there might be a chance that maybe some of the families are suing him or something like that. | ||
| I don't think they're still paying attention to him. | ||
| I would be. | ||
| I know. | ||
| They still get death threats. | ||
| But you are. | ||
| They still get death threats from his listeners. | ||
| Yeah, I have a hard time reading the news now because it's just like every day, again... | ||
| A lot of it runs similar to what we talk about here? | ||
| Well, yeah, that's problem number one. | ||
| But, I mean, if you were one of the family members, you definitely wouldn't be keeping an eye on Alex Jones. | ||
| I constantly see people like Jimmy Dore even making comments that are similar to Alex. | ||
| I'm like, you're supposed to be... | ||
| Progressive, bro. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Don't fall for the same bullshit. | ||
| Like, he fell for that. | ||
| He was at least putting his dick in the water with the Seth Rich shit. | ||
| And then he was spouting a bunch of nonsense. | ||
| We should give him Larry Nichols' number. | ||
| We should. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| We should give Larry Nichols his number. | ||
| The other day, he tweeted something about... | ||
| Ah, Jimmy. | ||
| Jimmy, let me tell you something. | ||
| I don't actually have cancer. | ||
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Jimmy, Jimmy. | |
| When it all goes down... | ||
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When it all goes down, radio show hosts become Dukes. | |
| Jimmy, when it all goes down, Radio Shack employees become Dukes too. | ||
| Maybe Al Gore tried to sell him a joint at school. | ||
| Maybe that's what happened. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So anyway, one more clip here. | ||
| And this is very troubling. | ||
| This is incredibly troubling to me. | ||
| Because we have been operating under an assumption... | ||
| That I think is a fair assumption to make. | ||
| I think it's a reasonable thing to believe in terms of propaganda. | ||
| I think that we look at it as they are talking to their audience. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think we have been remiss, and I think we've been looking at it wrong. | ||
| And as is their habit, in this next clip, Mike Cernovich really gives up the game about what they're actually doing. | ||
| But then when you and I ever criticize Trump, they go, oh, you know, Jones and Cernovich are betraying us. | ||
| Like, no, that's how Schumer, you have to, to get anything with Trump, you have to negotiate. | ||
| And that's what Schumer's doing. | ||
| And that's who Trump actually listens to and does deals to. | ||
| So that's interesting, and Schumer's doing that. | ||
| I found out from someone directly that that one video, the night before the debate, or two nights before, I said, you attack, or it's over, and you're a joke, and he was on the fence whether he was going to attack or not. | ||
| And I'm told that video pushed me over the edge of me screaming at him. | ||
| So is that the answer here, Cernovich? | ||
| Yeah, you have to push back. | ||
| I did a video where I said, there's all this violence against Trump supporters. | ||
| He won't call it out. | ||
| Therefore, Trump is okay with Antifa violence against Trump supporters. | ||
| A day or two later, at that rally in Arizona, Trump finally, for the first time, called out Antifa. | ||
| So people go, oh, you know, Cernovich Jones, you guys are on and off the Trump train. | ||
| No, let the professionals do our jobs. | ||
| We know what we're doing. | ||
| We're reminding Trump that, hey, this is an ongoing negotiation. | ||
| You're just not going to steamroll us. | ||
| So... | ||
| The thing that we should take away from that, I believe, is that they aren't really interested. | ||
| I mean, Alex is because he's got to sell his products and shit. | ||
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Right. | |
| They're trying to run an influence campaign in the same way that Steve Bannon tries to run an influence campaign through... | ||
| Or Russia. | ||
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| Well, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, the aim and the... | ||
| They're lobbyists as much as anybody else. | ||
| They only use public opinion as opposed to shit tons of money. | ||
| The target of their propaganda is Trump, to a great extent. | ||
| Right, like Fox and Friends. | ||
| It's so fucked up. | ||
| It's so fucked up. | ||
| So fucked up. | ||
| It's so fucked up. | ||
| I don't even know. | ||
| There's nothing else to say. | ||
| How do you deal with a morning news show filled with bigotry and lies is the direct line to the president. | ||
| Or Cernovich threatening him. | ||
| Or Alex Jones screaming in a video at him. | ||
| When on the same show, Mike Cernovich literally said, I don't care if it's real or not, we win either way. | ||
| About a propaganda photo stunt. | ||
| That's not okay to me. | ||
| If it was on the left, it wouldn't be okay with me either. | ||
| No, that's fucked up. | ||
| This is the destruction of the separation of journalism and power. | ||
| This is the destruction of public discourse. | ||
| This is the destruction of everything. | ||
| And it's happening from both sides, and I don't mean right and left. | ||
| I mean top and bottom. | ||
| Like, these guys... | ||
| Super rich people and then sort of it? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| These guys are the bottom and they're destroying it in their way, which is to make facts obsolete. | ||
| And then the top is destroying it in their way of making only the facts that they want known or only the way they want those facts presented. | ||
| Screwing the poor. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So, in all of this, everybody else gets fucked. | ||
| They're the ones who both sides make a shit ton of money. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's a good game. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Good game. | ||
| It's a two-man con. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| Well, it's a two-man con in the sense that if you look at the groups as one each being represented by a person, it's fucked up. | ||
| We're done, man. | ||
| Do you remember the ad that Hillary Clinton had where it was like, who do you want answering the phone at four in the morning? | ||
| I imagine that ad is very different. | ||
| Do you want the president to get his news from Fox and Friends? | ||
| And do you want him to still be up at four in the morning? | ||
| Yeah, like, that's a very simple ad to run now. | ||
| Like, the president gets his news from Fox and Friends. | ||
| The president is scared of what Alex Jones thinks of him. | ||
| The president is shook by Mike Cernovich. | ||
| Well, that's, but that's just true of everybody. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| No, we're all shook. | ||
| That lisp does shake me. | ||
| Nothing more scary. | ||
| Makes me quiver in my boots. | ||
| Than Mike Cernovich. | ||
| Mike Thernovich. | ||
| The influence that Mike Cernovich wields. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| Goddamn, man. | ||
| It's dark. | ||
| You look a little drained. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, just the running around today, right before the show, I was real stressed out. | ||
| I didn't even know if I was going to get all the clips, and I feel like I didn't do a good enough job of researching a lot of stuff. | ||
| No, you were racing to the end. | ||
| It was like an episode of Chopped. | ||
| I also had like 28 clips or something like that, so I was like, I don't know. | ||
| And, you know... | ||
| I just, there's elements of Alex that are fun and there's elements that aren't. | ||
| And the rampant Islamophobia isn't fun. | ||
| And especially when we have an instance of like, I listened to his show. | ||
| I know what he said. | ||
| I see Media Matters who should be the ones helping us with this. | ||
| And when I say us, I don't mean us. | ||
| I mean the world. | ||
| It is their charge, and Right Wing Watch, it is their charge to watch these people. | ||
| And be like, hey, this is what they're saying. | ||
| And having watched it, I know that they didn't... | ||
| They could have done a much better job. | ||
| Yeah, or at least a more thorough job. | ||
| Or the article that they even wrote about it, they could have talked about, like, here's why this isn't true. | ||
| Here's why... | ||
| It's just a transcript of the clip and the clip. | ||
| And it's fine. | ||
| You can anger people. | ||
| You can outrage people. | ||
| But you can't help them. | ||
| And it's never going to pierce the people who do believe the propaganda if all you're doing is like, hey, look at this. | ||
| Isn't this fucked up? | ||
| That is a good point. | ||
| But then again, how are you going to get anyone to listen to two-hour episodes of you and I? | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's complicated. | ||
| What was that pronunciation? | ||
| Complicated. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| If you're not talking about Avril Lavigne, I'm not listening. | ||
| It's complicated. | ||
| No, I... | ||
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What are you... | |
| I also have a blister on the back of my foot from dancing. | ||
| You're too happy? | ||
| No, at Matt Riggs' wedding. | ||
| I had terrible fitting shoes. | ||
| And since then I've had a blister on the back of my foot. | ||
| And because it's on the back of the foot, I can't fucking get rid of it. | ||
| You gotta get a band-aid, man. | ||
| I've been using a band-aid. | ||
| Try some liquid bandage. | ||
| It's just fucking destroying me. | ||
| This is great radio, by the way. | ||
| I'm just trying. | ||
| I'm just opening it up. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| No, I don't... | ||
| I don't disagree with you in that they are part of the outrage machine and they're propagating that. | ||
| And in some ways, they're utilizing the same tools that Alex does. | ||
| Not exactly, but yes. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| In the way of, what's the best way to get people to engage? | ||
| It's not make them feel better. | ||
| Educate. | ||
| It's definitely not educate. | ||
| It's not solutions-based. | ||
| It's outrage-based. | ||
| And so if you are still a business, if you're not PBS, if you're not a non-profit, you still have to do that shit. | ||
| And so I get it, which is part of the problem. | ||
| Right, but if you want to make people outraged about what happened on Alex Jones' show... | ||
| I don't think the way to do it necessarily is to play the Linda Sarsour looks like this terrorist. | ||
| That is the main thrust of your article. | ||
| I think it is much more infuriating to people and a much easier intro into like... | ||
| Well, this is very easily disprovable, is the stuff with Matt Bracken. | ||
| And especially the clip where he's saying that all the tenets of Islam in the Quran are kill, kill, kill, kill, kill. | ||
| That sort of stuff is much easier and would make people much angrier. | ||
| I think you'd get more clips. | ||
| But every content editor is going to be like... | ||
| Celebrity gossip, boom. | ||
| Toss it up there. | ||
| Linda Sarsour counts as a celebrity? | ||
| In that world? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| In that world? | ||
| What else do you got there? | ||
| You have a random Unabomber-style author who is saying Unabomber-style authorship. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So what are you going to be like? | ||
| I don't know if the Unabomber was that racist, though. | ||
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No. | |
| I bet he was. | ||
| He probably was. | ||
| He sounds racist to me. | ||
| Kept it to himself, though. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Good on him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, and even then, I think we can move past Islamophobia. | ||
| Like, that is too much of a subset now for Alex Jones, where it has to be white male supremacy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He is not an Islamophobe. | ||
| No, that's just a feature. | ||
| He is a white male supremacist, yeah. | ||
| That's a feature. | ||
| It's not the program. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's a side effect, yeah. | ||
| It's white Christian straight male supremacy. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| It's all of that bundled into one. | ||
| It's waspiness as gospel. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Or, I mean, it would be an even easier attack for... | ||
| You know, media matters to make. | ||
| It might not outrage many people, but posting something about Mike Cernovich days after the entire pedo sign has been debunked, still pitching it, and then admitting on air that, hey, I don't care if it's real or not, if it was a stunt, I don't give a shit, I wouldn't either way. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Those sorts of things, those admissions are more damning to them, I think, because... | ||
| Well, it was those types of admissions that got rid of Nixon and that kind of shit. | ||
| But that's different. | ||
| It's a different era. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's the crazy thing. | ||
| Now subtext no longer exists. | ||
| You can just make it all out there. | ||
| I would argue that there's probably a good 60% of these Ding Dongs base that isn't going to leave them. | ||
| But there's probably 20% that you could get rid of from supporting them if you expose them to... | ||
| Do you understand that they are explaining on air that they're conning you? | ||
| Do you understand that that is what's going on? | ||
| Or if you played some of his ridiculous throws to ads and explained this is a technique. | ||
| This is a rhetorical technique. | ||
| It's how they train people at QVC. | ||
| That's how you sell things. | ||
| You try and create an emotional response in people and then lay the sales pitch out. | ||
| It's classic salesmanship. | ||
| So if you did something like that, you could, I think, make some dents in their population or their fan bases. | ||
| Yeah, I would say at least two thirds. | ||
| More than fucking Linda Sarsour shit, which is just going to pedal to the base. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I would say at least two thirds are never going anywhere. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would say that you can get the other third split pretty well between either not being actively engaged with it or becoming purely like... | ||
| I don't believe them anymore. | ||
| And they're not going to come over to the team. | ||
| No, that doesn't matter, though. | ||
| That shit ain't happening. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| No, I'm not saying that you need to care. | ||
| I don't think you are. | ||
| I'm just expressing that I don't care. | ||
| I'm not trying to grow the ranks of the libs. | ||
| This is so fun. | ||
| This is such a weird reversal here. | ||
| Stupid Palisade wine. | ||
| Generally speaking, why is it that I'm the one being like, Hey, Dan, your anger is out of control right now. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Therapy is starting to work. | ||
| Getting in touch with this goddamn... | ||
| You're becoming more assertive. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Hit the nail on the head there. | ||
| That's exactly... | ||
| Guys, let me tell you about my therapy. | ||
| No, but like, look, who cares? | ||
| Dan knows a lot about therapy. | ||
| And so do you. | ||
| So the thing is, though, like, I don't give a shit, and you know this, I'm not saying you don't, but I don't give a shit about swelling the ranks of Antifa, swelling the ranks of the Democrats or the left even. | ||
| I care about people not falling for this. | ||
| If you don't believe Alex Jones and know that he's a liar and recognize what he's doing and you still believe in trickle-down economics, if you still believe in states' rights, cool. | ||
| We can have a conversation about that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I disagree, but that's fine. | ||
| See, I don't think you can do that, though. | ||
| I don't think it winds up happening. | ||
| I think it can. | ||
| Because if you can see through Alex's tricks, Alex's tricks are just a more obvious version of everybody else's. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But you said it right there. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| They're more obvious. | ||
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Right. | |
| But if you cut your teeth, he's a practice level. | ||
| You're cutting your teeth on, this is a very obvious form of bigotry and conmanship. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then you graduate to Fox News and you're like... | ||
| Oh, they're doing the same thing, but they're slicker about it. | ||
| But I still think you can graduate through a bunch of levels and still have conservative ideas. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I think conservatism is a con entirely. | ||
| I think it is as it's applied most of my life. | ||
| Certainly, the people who have been conservative politicians seem to be reinforcing of that. | ||
| But I'm not... | ||
| Look, I don't know. | ||
| You're going to fucking call me a centrist and I don't give a shit. | ||
| I'm not! | ||
| Dan, this is a safe space. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's hostile. | ||
| I just don't care. | ||
| I don't care about the game between parties. | ||
| I don't care about the idea that, like, hey, I believe that the world works better in X, Y, and Z way, and I believe it works better in A, B, and C way. | ||
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Right. | |
| As long as you ditch the racist propaganda and you aren't beholden to these ideas, then society can function. | ||
| Because we can have a polite disagreement about stuff, and some places can implement some plans, some places can implement others, and we can see what works. | ||
| That's the idea of government. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| And state governments and stuff like that. | ||
| There is something to that. | ||
| Now, if you want to dismantle the entire federal government in the name of states' rights, you're stupid. | ||
| That we can't do. | ||
| But the idea that people pitch in terms of states' rights about, like, let's see how things work. | ||
| In Colorado, then maybe if it works there, we can expand it. | ||
| That is kind of what happened with marijuana legalization. | ||
| They had the right to do that, and we learned it fucking worked super well, and so other states adopt it. | ||
| That is the kind of thing that I understand where that philosophy comes from, and I don't hate it. | ||
| Now, if you want to say that all conservative ideology is stupid and it's a con... | ||
| I disagree with you, because I think that's as bad as Alex calling all liberals stupid. | ||
| But I don't think that you're dumb, and I don't think you haven't thought out your opinions. | ||
| And I certainly think that most of the people that we recognize as conservative politicians aren't necessarily just that. | ||
| But the point I want to get to is... | ||
| There are instances of political disagreements that are acceptable. | ||
| That I agree with entirely. | ||
| That's more my thesis. | ||
| No, I get you. | ||
| And because we only have conservative and liberal as our sort of two polar opposites that we get to talk about, that's the reason I use that as the villain. | ||
| And I get that. | ||
| I think that was just a misunderstanding of terms. | ||
| Because to me, modern conservatism is intrinsically tied up with bigotry. | ||
| Because that's the only way that you can sell fucking yourself over. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If you look at what happened in Kansas, the way that Sam Brownback implemented all of the conservative tenets destroyed Kansas' entire... | ||
| Economy and infrastructure and everything. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| And if we didn't have all the other stuff that's piggybacking and just in a giant backpack around it... | ||
| Then he never would have gotten elected. | ||
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Right. | |
| And we would have seen, oh, that stuff didn't work. | ||
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Right. | |
| And we would have been able to discount those ideas and be like, sorry. | ||
| But we already know that shit didn't work because it's been applied... | ||
| So many times in American history in the past, and it's never worked. | ||
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Right. | |
| Ever. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Look, and I respect your... | ||
| I totally get what you're saying, coming from the idea of polite disagreement is a valuable thing. | ||
| I think the problem that we're having, or at least in this discussion, is a lot of the polite disagreements that we're talking about happened hundreds of years ago and are settled. | ||
| We're just still having those disagreements. | ||
| I somewhat disagree. | ||
| In the future, when we're talking about, because I don't agree with a lot of different ways, and I absolutely think that there is a certain progressive that can go, you know, we're not Pollyanna. | ||
| There is a rational approach to take. | ||
| But at the same time, trickle-down economics is magical. | ||
| It doesn't exist. | ||
| So that conservative, polite disagreement is gone. | ||
| There is no further discussion of tax breaks for the rich leading to economic growth. | ||
| We're done there. | ||
| So that's not a polite disagreement. | ||
| Well, for you. | ||
| That's a disagreement between reality. | ||
| You're making it a little rude. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| In this hypothetical conversation that you're having with a conservative. | ||
| I'm not having a hypothetical conversation. | ||
| That's the problem there. | ||
| You're not. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because that conversation is done. | ||
| That's like arguing about whether or not climate change is real at this point. | ||
| Well, that wouldn't be on my list. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, that's not a polite disagreement. | ||
| You can't have that as a polite disagreement in the same way. | ||
| If there's an established fact, you can't disagree about it. | ||
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Dude. | |
| What you're not... | ||
| I believe that what you're not taking into account is that... | ||
| Let's take the climate change as an example of what you're talking about. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If you take away... | ||
| A lot of the conspiracy propaganda beliefs about climate change, there would be much less disagreement about it. | ||
| If people were relying on science about it, if they were relying on empirical evidence, there wouldn't be nearly as many people who are saying there are two sides. | ||
| Because a lot of the people who, whether they really consciously understand it or not, a lot of the people who are against it believe that there are The UN is trying to conspire and they're faking all this. | ||
| Well, the one that I get from my family all the time is that the scientists... | ||
| Look, the scientists have to say this in order to get grant money. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's always the... | ||
| It's the monetary... | ||
| Disregarding the fact that they maybe get hundreds of thousands of dollars while the people who are causing climate change get billions. | ||
| But I... | ||
| If you take away all of the bullshit, a lot of the conversations that you're bringing up, and I'm going to imagine trickle-down economics might be one of them that also goes away. | ||
| Maybe it was a bad thing for me to use as an example. | ||
| No, I respect that. | ||
| I don't even know where this fucking started. | ||
| I'm looking at the chat room and I think we lost a lot of people. | ||
| Garbage Dick brought up libertarian philosophies that are burgeoning right now, and I want to be totally clear, I got no time for libertarians. | ||
| Yeah, that shit's done. | ||
| No matter how much I want to be inclusive of folks, I got zero time for libertarians. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So anyway, you can go to our website. | ||
| That was a great pivot for us. | ||
| That was an Alex Jonesian pivot. | ||
| I don't even want to have any more conversation. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| Curling up in a ball over here. | ||
| I'm sorry, Dan. | ||
| Let's head over to knowledgefight.com and that'll soothe your soul, buddy. | ||
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It absolutely will. | |
| You can check out our website over there. | ||
| You can click on the button that says support the show if you'd like to donate. | ||
| We would really appreciate it. | ||
| I write a new blog every Thursday. | ||
| One will be up tomorrow. | ||
| Or today when you're listening to this if you're not listening live. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight on Twitter. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| Also Facebook. | ||
| And then... | ||
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iTunes. | |
| Oh, you can go to iTunes? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Can you go to Stitcher? | ||
| You cannot. | ||
| Stitcher is the libertarians of podcast distribution services. | ||
| Can you go to Audible? | ||
| No. | ||
| I think you can go to iTunes. | ||
| How about Spotify? | ||
| No. | ||
| YouTube? | ||
| We can go to YouTube. | ||
| You can go to YouTube. | ||
| Yeah, we have YouTube. | ||
| YouTube and iTunes and then some other places that curate podcasts. | ||
| Oh, check us out on Media Matters. | ||
| There you go! | ||
| We'll be guesting on Media Matters' podcasts from now on. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Do they have podcasts? | ||
| Probably. | ||
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Yeah, they probably do. | |
| Everybody has podcasts. | ||
| Anyway, this has been fun. | ||
| This has been fun. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I know it's been alternately stressful and exciting for you, Dan, and I apologize. | ||
| Last 20 minutes or so have not been pleasurable. | ||
| You attacked my therapist and then... | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| All right. | ||
| My therapist is a good man. | ||
| He's not anything like this one dude. | ||
| What one dude? | ||
| This guy. | ||
| So does your therapist have fig teeth? | ||
| Doesn't. | ||
| No. | ||
| How about a huge spindly beard? | ||
| No. | ||
| Does he hang up all his pictures? | ||
| Alex Jones was talking about cross-eyes being a sign of nobility in England. | ||
| So this guy that we're talking about, he would be noble in England. | ||
| This guy has a cross-eye, just like me. | ||
| Probably the only thing we have in common, quite frankly. | ||
| Beard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, his name's John Rappaport. | ||
| And he can go fuck himself. | ||
| And now here's the part where I would say, may the wolf choke on his flesh, but Jordan has pointed out to me that that, or you did and another listener pointed out that that's kind of a compliment. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And so I'll no longer say it. | ||
| That's why you've been sad. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |