Today, Dan tells Jordan about the sixth installment in his investigation into what happened in 2015 to get Alex Jones on board with the Trump campaign. Today's findings are explosive, and topics covered include: Was Margaret Sanger a racist? How does Alex respond to a literal white supremacist caller? Does BrainForce seem like "a good buzz?" Should China adopt a "candy-based" currency?
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple of dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Emmerich Jones. | ||
| That is the plan. | ||
| Today, you have brought us Philbert's Old Time Quality Lime. | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| Which, the rhyming aspect. | ||
| Perfection itself. | ||
| Well, that's a big part of why this was my choice. | ||
| Yeah, of course it was. | ||
| And then secondarily... | ||
| It's a green... | ||
| It's a clear bottle with nothing but green... | ||
| A neon green coming out of it all. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It looks like the ooze. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| The other day I... | ||
| From TMN2. | ||
| TMNT2. | ||
| I woke up in a cold sweat at about three in the morning the other day, and the one thought that was... | ||
| Wow, is that bad? | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| That is the worst thing I've ever tasted. | ||
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That really invalidates the story I was in the middle of. | |
| I have not tasted this, but I realized lime is a great flavor. | ||
| I was laying awake in bed like, man, lime, underutilized. | ||
| Let me see if I agree with you. | ||
| Why would you think it's underutilized? | ||
| That's not bad. | ||
| You're so wrong. | ||
| That's not bad. | ||
| I expect it to be a lot stronger based on your response. | ||
| Anyway, speaking of strong. | ||
| We have some strong opinions about Alex Jones, and we will get to them here in a moment, but first, I would like to start the show with an out-of-context drop from Alex Jones. | ||
| I got me a rock and roll band! | ||
| It's a free-for-all! | ||
| I got me a radio show, TV show, with 20 million listeners and viewers a week! | ||
| It's a free-for-all! | ||
| I got me a rock and roll band! | ||
| It's a free-for-all! | ||
| That, of course, is a reference to Ted Nugent's song, Free For All. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's just a nice example of what we're missing out on. | ||
| His singing, In and Out of Breaks, is fucking astounding. | ||
| This one was in the middle of the show, so they kept it in. | ||
| Couldn't cut that out. | ||
| But so today, Jordan, what we're going to be doing is we're going to be going over part six of my investigation into what happened to Alex Jones in 2015 to get him on board with Team Trump. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Today, there will be massive... | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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But before we get... | |
| I assumed they would go hand in hand. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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But before we get to all that, I'd like to give a shout out to our new donator. | |
| We got another person named Chase who donates. | ||
| So we're big on chases. | ||
| And I'd like to give a shout out to you. | ||
| We are the number one rated podcast amongst chases. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk! | ||
| Thank you, Chase. | ||
| Thank you very much, Chase. | ||
| You speculated that it may be Chase Bank backing us, and I want to dispel any of these spurious rumors that we have taken up sponsorship with the globalist-controlled banks. | ||
| Who would spread that rumor? | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| He hears about it. | ||
| He's like, there's a lot of people who named Chase who donate to the show, obviously. | ||
| That would be such a quick thing that he would probably pull off. | ||
| Obviously, it's segmented donations from Chase Bank that don't amount to $10. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Good call, Alex, in my head. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So today, Jordan, we'll be going over the time span of August 12th to August 16th in 2015. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it's a wide-ranging. | ||
| Period. | ||
| There's a whole lot of stuff that goes on. | ||
| There's really no good way for me to distill a synthesis of the events that we are about to discuss. | ||
| But I will say that we start to see somewhat trends that alarm me a little bit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And this first clip is part and parcel of that. | ||
| There is a marked rise in his... | ||
| Tamagotchi sales? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's a difficult trend. | ||
| I hated that one. | ||
| He started pimping Tamagotchis. | ||
| God, that would be fucking great. | ||
| Tamagotchi lives matter. | ||
| All these people want to turn off their Tamagotchis. | ||
| Globalists want you to do that because of divide and conquer strategies. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| No, he's starting to say a lot of positive things about repressive regimes. | ||
| Ooh, no, that's no good. | ||
| There is a bit of really pro-Putin sentiment that's starting to come through. | ||
| And also, this first clip, he wants to complain about Jeb Bush. | ||
| And in doing so... | ||
| He whitewashes and completely tweaks the history of the Syrian civil war into a very pro-Assad viewpoint. | ||
| But that's not a thing you can have. | ||
| You can't have a pro-Assad viewpoint. | ||
| But here it is. | ||
| He can get up there when we've ganged up on Assad and his people and the Christians and the non-radical Muslims for five years and killed 300,000 of them and their tiny military with Russian backing has been valiantly fighting the entire Saudi Arabian jihad. | ||
| No. | ||
| And now the answer is to bomb the Syrian army. | ||
| So he's saying essentially what he does end up saying about Putin in a later date. | ||
| Basically that he did nothing wrong. | ||
| He's not doing anything wrong. | ||
| What about all those people that he gassed? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Fake news. | ||
| What about all those people that he murdered? | ||
| Fake news. | ||
| What about all the ones that he tortured for speaking out against him? | ||
| Fake news. | ||
| What about those people that he tortured and then murdered after torturing them? | ||
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Fake news. | |
| Okay. | ||
| What about his cars? | ||
| He has a lot of cars. | ||
| That's not fake news. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Now I like him. | ||
| Yeah, he's got a hellcat. | ||
| It's very Americana. | ||
| The whole thing in Syria is such a fucked up future revelation of... | ||
| Climate change. | ||
| Like, that's the whole situation. | ||
| A lot of it is about displacement. | ||
| That's why I hate it whenever people are like, oh, the worst effects of climate change will come in a hundred years. | ||
| And it's like, no, no, no. | ||
| The fact that people are going to move means shit is going to happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just look at how refugees work now. | ||
| Like, Syrian children just need somewhere to go. | ||
| Somewhere... | ||
| To be. | ||
| Where they can survive. | ||
| Where they won't be murdered by their own government. | ||
| And our government is like, fuck you, child. | ||
| You might be a terrorist, you girl. | ||
| You very small. | ||
| Well, but see, that's why you are a dumb libtard cuck. | ||
| It's not actually a small girl. | ||
| It's an adult man with a giant beard who has a passport that says he's a little girl. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If we're willing to entertain that possibility. | ||
| Well, Alex certainly is. | ||
| How about my counter possibility? | ||
| That's actually two very small Syrian girls wearing the suit of a large man in order to make sure that they can get, you know, you gotta blend in with the people who are trying to kill you. | ||
| Yeah, and if you're a kid, no one, like, the country you're going to as a refugee is going to give you any credibility, no agency, you know, you've got to get in that trench coat on your friend's shoulders and put on a fake beard, and now you're an adult. | ||
| Everyone respects you. | ||
| And then you go see an R-rated movie. | ||
| Everybody knows this. | ||
| Everybody knows this is the progression. | ||
| I mean, we're joking around, but, like, Alex's misinterpretation of what is happening in Syria back in 2015 is calamitous. | ||
| It's a... | ||
| It's a literal genocide. | ||
| And he's super willing to side with Assad. | ||
| I can't understand. | ||
| Now, hold on. | ||
| I understand the people in our government who side with Assad because they love money. | ||
| I don't understand Alex because he's not getting paid. | ||
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He hates people. | |
| That's kind of where he's at. | ||
| That's probably right. | ||
| You know how we've documented a pretty serious trend of Trump seeming to really admire dictators? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Cooperative bodies. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| That's kind of very similar with Alex. | ||
| It seems like he has respect for men. | ||
| You know, people who are like strong men. | ||
| I mean, he's talked about Duterte in the Philippines. | ||
| Oh, the guy who also murders his own people en masse with no justification for it? | ||
| And declared open season on his soldiers raping women in hostile territory. | ||
| Hey, say what you want, he gets shit done. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, he has these trends that you obviously see in him. | ||
| And I think that... | ||
| I'm not going to say that that doesn't play a small part in why he ends up eventually liking Trump, but we're starting to see more of it in this August stretch. | ||
| These dudes are gross. | ||
| He also has that fundamental misunderstanding, or a willful misunderstanding, that all of the people who are fighting against Assad are ISIS, and that al-Qaeda is the same thing as ISIS. | ||
| Well, that's crazy because al-Qaeda is fighting ISIS. | ||
| With the Syrian rebels, who are also fighting ISIS, who are also fighting the Syrian government. | ||
| The people who are screwed the most in Syria are the people who are like, please stop killing us! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Those are the people who got fucked over. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And because of xenophobia and because of unwillingness to wrestle with the nuances and complexities of it, we seem to have a position that deems all of those people who are getting screwed as... | ||
| You're probably a bad guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's really bad. | ||
| Well, and it's also propaganda on, I would say, the part of our operatives who want to push the narrative that, you know, there's no such thing as peaceful, you know. | ||
| Like, the Syrian rebels didn't want... | ||
| Or don't want some kind of theocracy. | ||
| They want a modern civilization. | ||
| The one that they were not just not getting, but they were starving to death. | ||
| And all they tried to do is modernize this and become a free, fair society. | ||
| One that doesn't have a fucking king. | ||
| And so we should be on their side, right? | ||
| That's America's story. | ||
| Fuck kings! | ||
| Yeah, it's sort of in our bloodline. | ||
| That's our thing, man! | ||
| And, like, Assad's been in power for a pretty long time, and his dad was in power before him. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| It's not, like... | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| Why is it... | ||
| Why... | ||
| We need to... | ||
| Look. | ||
| If we're gonna do 1776 2.0... | ||
| 2.0. | ||
| Here's what we do. | ||
| We go all in on killing kings. | ||
| No more kings. | ||
| That's your 1776 2.0. | ||
| We're not declaring independence for us. | ||
| We're declaring independence for the world. | ||
| Like in the movie Independence Day. | ||
| Alex would love that lip service, but his response would be that the kings are just the face men. | ||
| And then there's globalist bankers behind the scenes. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| Let's just still get rid of them. | ||
| But if you kill the kings, the globalist bankers will just install new people who will be a problem. | ||
| Well, let's get rid of those kings. | ||
| How is the problem not the king part? | ||
| Well, it's... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't care who the king is. | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| It's the king part. | ||
| We're ten minutes into this episode, and we've already spun backwards into... | ||
| Oh, are we recording? | ||
| No, we are. | ||
| So, this next clip, Alex Jones shows... | ||
| That his instinct and his providence and his discernment are as sharp as ever. | ||
| He's back on his bullshit, as they would say online. | ||
| And he's into the collapse narrative that goes through the next couple days. | ||
| And this prediction is pretty specific and did not come to pass. | ||
| Twelve signs of an imminent global financial crash has become even more likely. | ||
| The story about Michael Snyder is excellent. | ||
| It's up on Infowars.com. | ||
| Did you see what just happened? | ||
| I'm going to cover this in detail, but let's get into it right now. | ||
| The devaluation of the yuan by China triggered the largest one-day drop of the currency in modern era. | ||
| This caused other global currencies to crash relative to the U.S. dollar. | ||
| The price of oil hit a six-year low, and stock markets all over the world were rattled. | ||
| The Dow fell 212 points on Tuesday, and Apple stock plummeted another 5%. | ||
| As we hurdle towards the absolutely critical months of September and October, yeah, if it's an organized, orchestrated collapse, it'll be in October so they can fearmonger, get things fixed, get a power grab package and a bailout package by November, and then still have a Christmas. | ||
| But if it crashes in November or December... | ||
| You gotta still have a Christmas. | ||
| You gotta still have a Christmas. | ||
| I don't think it's rigged then, and boy, it could go all the way. | ||
| But don't worry, the elites are headed to their bunkers right now, but we shouldn't, fearmonger. | ||
| If we're lucky and can stop this or slow it down or have a smooth landing... | ||
| So really, where was the global crisis, Alex? | ||
| You only predicted it would come and it came, but it wasn't that bad. | ||
| Don't you people sound like idiots now? | ||
| And I wish I wasn't right. | ||
| Congratulations, you're not right. | ||
| The global collapse did not come in October nor December of 2015. | ||
| All right, fake news. | ||
| Fake news. | ||
| So, the thing that's crazy there is, would you point it out, that the globalists would be concerned with still having a Christmas. | ||
| Gotta have a Christmas! | ||
| What are they, heartless? | ||
| Yes, they want 95% of the world population to die. | ||
| But everybody celebrates the birthday of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Alex would tell you that the globalists have a war on Christmas. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So why would they be concerned with when they pull the trigger on this global... | ||
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Oh, wait, because they've got to make all the money out of selling Christmas goods. | |
| There you go. | ||
| But if they have a global collapse, Alex's narrative is that they have a field day on making money. | ||
| They would make way more than they make at JCPenney's for Christmas sales. | ||
| Um, yeah. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| This is completely stupid. | ||
| I find it super weird to listen to him read off real numbers. | ||
| The Dow dropped 212 points and you're like, you're Alex Jones, don't do this. | ||
| But that's also real numbers as reported and contextualized by an article on Infowars.com. | ||
| So they might be skewed or massaged a little bit. | ||
| But my point is they're just stock numbers. | ||
| The yuan is down relative to the dollar and you're like, dude, you're Alex Jones. | ||
| Spice it up a little bit. | ||
| Facts are weird. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| This is creeping me out. | ||
| The other thing, though, that I want to point... | ||
| The yuan is all made of candy now. | ||
| China has changed its policy on one child to be one yuan per child. | ||
| Now, I respect that they're putting the yuan on a candy-based scale because at least it is a commodity-driven currency. | ||
| This is not a fiat currency because it's based on candy. | ||
| It's a finite resource. | ||
| We gotta get off the gold standard and the paper standard and right back on to the Willy Wonka standard. | ||
| Let's get off the gold standard and get on those little chocolate coin standard. | ||
| And then we'll all have a happy Christmas. | ||
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Indeed. | |
| So, the other thing that's really fucked up is that, like, he really laid out in that last clip one of the games he plays that is really, it's airtight. | ||
| It's basically a schizophrenic game. | ||
| And that is that, like... | ||
| Everyone's making fun of me now, and then when it's not so bad later, because we've exposed this thing, because of the work that the Patriots have done, thanks to me getting the word out, when it's not bad, everyone will make fun of how I made a big deal out of it before. | ||
| I'm a secret hero all the time. | ||
| Every single time that I've complained about something and it doesn't happen, it's because we have made it not happen. | ||
| And that's not a fair game to play. | ||
| That is literal insanity. | ||
| But people buy it. | ||
| His audience buys it. | ||
| They're like, thank God Alex is there to expose this stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, if that's your game, there's just never any possibility of communication there. | ||
| You know, like, Alex, the economy didn't collapse. | ||
| You predicted it. | ||
| You're welcome. | ||
| Oh, that did not occur to me. | ||
| So you're saying that the economy didn't collapse because of you? | ||
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Yep. | |
| Well, you nailed it. | ||
| How about the last time it did collapse, though, in 2008? | ||
| Was that you? | ||
| I had a flu. | ||
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I tried to stop it, but I had to take a me day. | |
| That is probably what you said. | ||
| I was too busy focusing on the globalists' other attacks or something like that. | ||
| That would be his... | ||
| And it's perfect. | ||
| He's fighting an imaginary war, yeah. | ||
| I really respect it on one level because it's clearly super profitable. | ||
| And it's airtight. | ||
| But I don't respect it in terms of reality. | ||
| You'll notice that this is, like, our investigation in 2015 is specifically about the Trump campaign and how he joined up. | ||
| And we start a little slow on it. | ||
| He doesn't really get into much Trump stuff until a little bit down the line. | ||
| But if you have not listened to the last episode, To get you up to speed, he thinks that Trump is a predator and a weasel, and he doesn't like that he works or has casinos because he thinks they're predatory, but he loves that Trump is anti-vaccination and is saying crazy shit. | ||
| And that because he's saying crazy shit, it makes it okay for people who he does support, like Rand Paul, to say those things publicly. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he's not as big a fan of Rand now because he's not saying those things. | ||
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No, he still is. | |
| I mean, he's not saying those things. | ||
| He wishes he would, but he still loves him. | ||
| He still loves him, but he would prefer it if Rand would say the shit that Trump would say. | ||
| It really feels like, if I can be a little bit dramatic, it feels like it's a relationship that he has with Rand Paul. | ||
| That's been going on for a long time. | ||
| And then a new hot kid comes into school. | ||
| You know, a new brash, showy, alpha dude shows up. | ||
| And, you know, you love Rand Paul. | ||
| You guys had a good thing going. | ||
| You philosophically matched up on a lot of stuff, but this guy who just showed up at school is getting you wet. | ||
| I am loving this analogy. | ||
| His hijinks are getting you fucking wet. | ||
| He's pantsing nerds and spitballs and what have you. | ||
| He's calling people racist names, and you're like, oh my god, this guy is a rebel. | ||
| So your pussy just gets going. | ||
| You just want him. | ||
| Please do not ever say that word like that ever again. | ||
| It's the lime soda. | ||
| That was the grossest thing I've ever heard in my life. | ||
| So you just want this bad boy guy, and then you feel yourself being pulled away from Ron Paul, but at the same time, you know you love him for that shared history and shared philosophy, but you wish he would be more like this bully. | ||
| And he won't be, because that's not him. | ||
| I think that's where Alex is in August of 2015. | ||
| That's why you're going to break up in any kind of relationship. | ||
| You can't force the person to be... | ||
| Anything. | ||
| So you're gonna have to fuck the rebel. | ||
| In some ways, this stretch of time that we've been in, you know, Trump announced his candidacy on, what was it, June 16th of 2015. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And now here we are on August 12th. | ||
| These last two months have kind of been a holding pattern. | ||
| A little bit of like, you know you're gonna fuck me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kind of thing. | ||
| And it's kind of weird. | ||
| It's super weird to see. | ||
| And my metaphor. | ||
| My metaphor is real good. | ||
| Your metaphor was really good. | ||
| It was really good. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| It was a very good metaphor. | ||
| So this next clip is... | ||
| It's also gross. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| This is an adult show. | ||
| It's not a family show. | ||
| Like I've claimed in the past. | ||
| So this next clip is really weird. | ||
| Alex Jones is sort of rallying the troops, letting you know the war is going on, whether you know it or not. | ||
| And then ends with a very classical... | ||
| Right-wing smear lie that we'll deal with on the other side. | ||
| I wish I wasn't right about all of it. | ||
| But we don't make stuff up. | ||
| You know, knock on wood. | ||
| And the wood lights on fire. | ||
| I have never been sued for liable or slander. | ||
| Other people threaten it, and I just have my lawyers contact me and go, well, here's our evidence and here's our source. | ||
| So you can sue our source if you want, who sent another publication or a document. | ||
| But usually we're just going off an admitted document, a court case, an admission. | ||
| It's not us saying it. | ||
| 95% of what we cover is open source intelligence. | ||
| 5% is my analysis and where I think it's going. | ||
| And that's proven very accurate. | ||
| But it's not hard when you have a historical context. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| And the patriots worldwide, people that want stability, want decency, that are throughout the system. | ||
| It's not just evil out there acting, operating. | ||
| We've been trying to stop all this. | ||
| So we're like holding the gate back with the enemy trying to come in. | ||
| And you're like, you say there's an enemy horde out there. | ||
| And swords are sticking through the wall. | ||
| And people are climbing over the parapet and falling on top people. | ||
| And fireballs are shooting in. | ||
| And you're like, oh, you claim there's fireballs. | ||
| And then one flies over and burns their hair. | ||
| And they're like, I don't see any fireballs as their hair is on fire. | ||
| See, you claim they're selling baby parts. | ||
| Dead baby plops right beside them. | ||
| I don't know what you're talking about. | ||
| You claim Margaret Sanger's a Nazi? | ||
| You're the racist. | ||
| Salon said so. | ||
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We wear pink sweaters and talk with a lisp. | |
| That means we're intellectual. | ||
| Margaret Sanger was never involved in anything. | ||
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And Christ was not the Messiah, as Pastor Hagee says as well. | |
| We'll be right back. | ||
| That's super weird. | ||
| That's a really super weird one. | ||
| Yeah, and I've looked, I've done a bit of looking into Margaret Sanger because Alex is really mad at her. | ||
| Constantly, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So the... | ||
| Ugh! | ||
| You gave women rights? | ||
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No! | |
| The reality is, in terms of her racism stuff, all of that is super out of context. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Statements that she's made. | ||
| There's one very popular comment. | ||
| Let me see if I can pull up this quote here. | ||
| Because, yeah, I've heard the... | ||
| You know who started Planned Parenthood? | ||
| She was racist. | ||
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She wanted to segregate or something like that, right? | |
| Yeah, well, people talk about how she started Planned Parenthood in black neighborhoods in order to... | ||
| Get rid of black people. | ||
| Oh, that makes sense. | ||
| That's one of the big claims that people make. | ||
| And the reality is that the first Planned Parenthood clinic that was opened in 1916 was in a Jewish and Italian and Irish neighborhood in New York. | ||
| Well, we want to get rid of them, too. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But that's not the argument Alex wants to make. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So, the other thing that they talk about is this quote from a letter that she wrote that says, Well, he did not do a very good job. | ||
| That sounds terrible. | ||
| No, what it sounds like is her saying, Oh, I know what these people are going to say about me. | ||
| Now, you're smart. | ||
| That was so easy to pick up on. | ||
| She's like, We don't want people to say this dumb shit. | ||
| This is the guy who's going to get out in front of that dumb shit, and apparently you should have gotten a way better guy. | ||
| Yeah, and if you take the... | ||
| Quote from her letter within the context of the letter, that is what she's saying. | ||
| Of course it is. | ||
| But it does if you are someone who is violently anti-abortion and maybe has some latent bigotry in you, you hear the words, we don't want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and what you hear is, we don't want that shit to be public. | ||
| Right, of course. | ||
| Which, again, you gotta be more precise in your language if you're writing a letter. | ||
| To anyone, apparently. | ||
| Well, most of the time, people don't expect their letters to be publicly bleh. | ||
| So Alex also talks about how she, Margaret Sanger, I don't know if I kept the clip, because he yells about Margaret Sanger like 30 times within this stretch of episodes, but one of the things he talks about is how she is responsible with Planned Parenthood. | ||
| They funded the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Nazi Germany. | ||
| All the Nazis, they're just an offshoot of Planned Parenthood. | ||
| Oh, that one I have not heard before. | ||
| It's a good one. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| The reality is... | ||
| That's a good narrative. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| The funding stuff that you can find for the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute came from the Rockefeller Foundation. | ||
| What's the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute? | ||
| It's the Nazi scientific organization. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Or at least it had its roots in the Nazi period. | ||
| It was founded in 1911. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| So it did exist before Planned Parenthood, first of all. | ||
| And before Kaiser Wilhelm was killed. | ||
| And before Nazis. | ||
| Like, the National Socialist Party didn't get going until, like, what, 1920? | ||
| Give or take? | ||
| And then it didn't even turn bad for a little bit longer after that. | ||
| Yeah, I would say it was, like, the late 20s. | ||
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And then, what, 33 is when he got out of jail? | |
| The National Socialist Workers' Party, probably. | ||
| I think that started around 1920. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But it didn't form into the party that we know it as. | ||
| But the thing is that it was a scientific institute that ended up maybe in some dicey territory later. | ||
| And I'm very much underselling that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because I don't... | ||
| Want to get into it. | ||
| But the truth is that Planned Parenthood did not have some funding scheme wherein they paid the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute to kill minorities or anything like that. | ||
| That's cockamamie. | ||
| Because fucking of course not. | ||
| But what Alex is pointing to is that they both had their roots in the eugenics movement that happened in the late 1800s. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Look, it's fucked up. | ||
| The word eugenics is a really fucked up word. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It has a really negative connotation because of racial eugenics. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Which, as I've already said in the past, though, I support it only because I want to see somebody hit 100 home runs in one season. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So get all the athletes together, let them fuck, and let's figure this shit out. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's my version of eugenics. | ||
| It's better than doping. | ||
| Get them all together. | ||
| Let them fuck. | ||
| And then we'll go from there. | ||
| That's kind of the Olympics. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But they hand out condoms. | ||
| This is the problem. | ||
| Yeah, but everyone throws those condoms around like water balloons. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So the thing is, I don't have time to do a full book report on eugenics here, but a lot of it was bad, and a lot of it wasn't bad. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Nazi stuff is the really bad end of eugenics. | ||
| And Planned Parenthood, while it had its roots in some eugenics... | ||
| It wasn't like, get rid of black people eugenics. | ||
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No. | |
| It was, let's be deliberative about our reproduction. | ||
| And not from a, like, government or organizations telling you what to do, but you taking control of your own reproductive choices. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because up till that point... | ||
| Women were fucked economically because they couldn't choose. | ||
| Yeah, it's a class thing, not a... | ||
| No, but it is a gender thing, too. | ||
| No, no, but that's what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's a class structure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I guess that's the real reason that all of the Planned Parenthood shit is... | ||
| All the propaganda is put out, because they want to make sure that... | ||
| Women aren't allowed to have agency. | ||
| Be barefoot and pregnant, and that's it. | ||
| It threatens the economic and social power of men when women are equal and when they have their own choices. | ||
| It makes sense, but I fucking strongly disagree. | ||
| I mean, it's so frustrating whenever their aim is obvious and their lies are ridiculous. | ||
| But the reason that we have Planned Parenthood makes perfect sense to everybody. | ||
| If you're coming into it with no biases whatsoever, and somebody says, okay, well, you should be able to control how many kids you have and how many you can handle. | ||
| That way, none of them starve. | ||
| You can take good care of them, and they can be raised properly to become better people than you were. | ||
| And they have the same choices that you do. | ||
| You go, oh yeah, that makes perfect sense. | ||
| Or, I mean, even beyond that, that's just one angle of it. | ||
| That's just reproductive aspects. | ||
| You take away all the just health screenings and STD, STI stuff. | ||
| So, the other thing that Alex gets into, which let's take a step back and remember that most of this is coming up because of those fake videos that were put out by the Center for Medical Progress. | ||
| Alex is still tricked by them and angry about it, but... | ||
| He talks a bunch about how Margaret Sanger was deeply involved with the KKK. | ||
| Okay, was she? | ||
| He's throwing a lot of darts around. | ||
| Nazi, Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, eugenics, KKK. | ||
| Hey, if you're listening, take your pick of one you think you're angry about, and then you're on board with all of them. | ||
| So Margaret Sanger spoke to a KKK meeting exactly one time in her life. | ||
| Alright, how did it go? | ||
| This is taken from Margaret Sanger, an autobiography, which she wrote herself. | ||
| I would hope so. | ||
| Which was published in 1938. | ||
| Otherwise she is a liar. | ||
| This was excerpted on PolitiFact. | ||
| Sanger details her work advocating birth control in her autobiography across the United States and emphasizes her willingness to talk to virtually anyone. | ||
| Quote from her autobiography. | ||
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Always to me, any aroused group was a good group, Sanger writes, and therefore I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan at Silver Lake, New Jersey, one of the weirdest experiences I had in lecturing. | |
| Sanger's account suggests she did not hold the group in the highest esteem. | ||
| After arriving at the meeting, a complicated process that involved driving to a secret location, it was time for her to speak. | ||
| Quote, I was sure that if I uttered one word, such as abortion, outside the usual vocabulary of these women, they would go off into hysteria. | ||
| And so, my address that night had to be in the most elementary of terms, as though I was trying to make children understand. | ||
| So she's... | ||
| She's not a big fan of the KKK. | ||
| Does not seem like she has very positive feelings about these women that she went and spoke to once. | ||
| I went to give a lecture. | ||
| To the KKK, the women's chapter of the KKK, to try and educate them about, you know, just reproductive rights in general, health, taking care of themselves, and then those bitches were stupid and crazy. | ||
| That is a... | ||
| Concise summary of her thoughts. | ||
| So you can even see within that quote the idea of, like, women going off into hysteria is kind of like a paternalistic idea from the time. | ||
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Right. | |
| And she is beholden to those ideas. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But she's absolutely not a member of the Klan. | ||
| And based on the fact that she hired black doctors... | ||
| At that time for clinics and stuff like that, it really is a strong indication that she was way ahead of the curve in terms of racial understanding. | ||
| Of course she was. | ||
| And then further, her whole philosophy was that having access to abortion, or not even abortion at that time, because these clinics weren't doing abortion. | ||
| Yeah, it wasn't even legal. | ||
| No, but having access to birth control and making your own choices was a way of empowering women. | ||
| It was a way of giving them control. | ||
| And so if that is her premise, the idea of giving that to minority communities, that's not an attack. | ||
| That's the absolute, yeah. | ||
| The fact that she established clinics in minority neighborhoods means that she is actively trying to help those communities. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So all this is horseshit. | ||
| Anyway, that was too long. | ||
| Why? | ||
| I mean, I know why, but it's like, why? | ||
| Why are you doing this, you fucking idiots? | ||
| It's a good thing! | ||
| How do you not know it's a good thing? | ||
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But they do. | |
| They know it's a good thing, and that's why they have to put out this propaganda to steal. | ||
| The Republicans fucking knew that the Affordable Care Act was a good thing. | ||
| Clearly. | ||
| Because they fucking wrote it. | ||
| So why would you constantly spread all these fucking lies about it? | ||
| The only reason is just... | ||
| To be fucking evil! | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| And to keep your job, I guess. | ||
| And to keep women under control. | ||
| And to keep women under control. | ||
| And to try and... | ||
| Minorities, especially African Americans and Hispanics, have a long history of voting... | ||
| Democrat, yeah. | ||
| They have a very liberal swing to the communities as a whole. | ||
| That's certainly not true of everybody. | ||
| No. | ||
| But demographically, those are blocks that liberals and liberal candidates very much rely on in order to maintain any representation in government. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So if Republicans are able to sow doubt among these minority communities that, hey, secretly they're trying to kill you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Secretly, they hate you almost as much as we do. | ||
| Yeah, no, we're up front about how much we don't like you. | ||
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Yeah, that's true. | |
| They secretly hate you. | ||
| Bullies try and pull that shit on the schoolyard, like your friends don't actually like you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if they're able to do that, then they're able to erode the voting base. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Of the broken coalition that the Democrats rely on. | ||
| And if not withdraw support, make them less likely to vote. | ||
|
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Yep. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| The whole thing is make sure that as few people of color can vote. | ||
| It does, at the end, boil down to minority and woman disenfranchisement through sowing seeds of doubt. | ||
| Goddammit, they should all kill us. | ||
| They really should. | ||
| Might as well. | ||
| They really should. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, has anybody thought about that proposal? | ||
| Like, let's just have women and people of color just fucking murder all white men. | ||
| And I bet you guys would do great. | ||
| Well, I don't like you even suggesting that as a joke just because of what's going to end up happening on this episode. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I feel like... | ||
| Are we going to commit white genocide on this episode? | ||
| Is that what's going to happen? | ||
| I feel like you suggesting these things were a dum-dum to ever listen to this show and want to attack us, they would use that as like, these guys advocate white genocide. | ||
| Yeah, but if they're taking fucking Sanger's quote about, hey, like... | ||
| These people are going to try and smear us. | ||
| Don't let them smear us as, see, it's evidence that they're smeared! | ||
| Like that kind of thing. | ||
| There's no win. | ||
| There's no win on that. | ||
| That's a fair point. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| That means if you're just combing through everything I've ever said line by line by line, you can take something out of context that makes me sound like a fucking lunatic. | ||
| Dear Lord. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because I am a fucking lunatic. | ||
| Like, now is not what... | ||
| Whoa, Jordan. | ||
| Be careful with your language now. | ||
| After our 600th hour of knowledge fight, that white genocide thing, that might have gone too far. | ||
| Speaking of which, we might end up at 604 after this episode. | ||
| We are not making progress. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| So this next clip, we finish up the matters at hand for August 12th. | ||
| In this clip, Alex is talking about how severe the situation is and how the globalists really want to take out people like him. | ||
| And also want to take out people like this other guy named... | ||
| He's a representative. | ||
| I can't remember his first name. | ||
| He's also Representative Jones. | ||
| And he apparently has the 28 pages from the 9-11 report that proved that Saudi Arabia was behind it. | ||
| And 9-11 was an inside job with criminal forces in our government that Alex sells. | ||
| And then also he wants to get John Boehner out of the... | ||
| He wants to get him out. | ||
| God, we all... | ||
| Man, imagine going back to those times when getting John Boehner out was our big problem. | ||
| But I also think that Alex probably could sort of read the tea leaves, as it were, and see that John Boehner was about done. | ||
| He was fucked, yeah. | ||
| And so he started this movement where he has this guy on his show, he has Representative Jones on his show, and they talk about how we gotta get Boehner out of there to sort of set the groundwork for a victory. | ||
| That they already know is going to happen with or without any action on their part. | ||
| I gotcha. | ||
| So he comes on and he talks about how they are going to fucking kill this guy. | ||
| Because he's coming out and saying all this shit. | ||
| And it relates to Alex. | ||
| And then he exaggerates. | ||
| To the nth degree. | ||
| It's lunacy. | ||
| The point is, you need to just know there is a fight going on, and we got the folks here, like Walter Jones, who's exposing the Saudis quarterback 9-11 with criminals inside the government, and there was a stand-down order. | ||
| Do you realize how dangerous that is? | ||
| I'll guarantee you they've sat around and talked about blowing his plane up. | ||
| When he's on an aircraft. | ||
| I guarantee it. | ||
| Killing him's been discussed. | ||
| Killing Rand Paul's been discussed. | ||
| Killing me's been discussed. | ||
| Killing Matt Drudge has been discussed. | ||
| Killing Joseph Farah's been discussed. | ||
| You better believe in these criminal counsels. | ||
| And why they haven't done it is they know it'll blow up in their face if they do it. | ||
| But they may get so cornered, a nuke goes off in a major city, and then it's just a footnote. | ||
| A bunch of people had heart attacks or died or got hit by cars. | ||
| That's how this works. | ||
| And let me tell you, the myth that happens, carrying the coal mine, Katie, bar the door. | ||
| There's a full-on depression, war with the Russians, war with the Chinese. | ||
| If they go that far, folks, they're going all out. | ||
| So Alex suggests that in order to kill him and Matt Drudge, they will drop a nuke on a U.S. city in order to disguise their murder of Alex Jones. | ||
| This is possibly Delusions of Grandeur right now. | ||
| That is the biggest, you know, you've seen the movies where they're like, oh, the building went up in a fire, but there was one guy who was killed by a bullet. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| This is like a nuclear fucking bomb. | ||
| This is like a nuclear bomb. | ||
| Storyline of Columbo. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| Mr. President, one more thing. | ||
| One more thing. | ||
| One more thing, Mr. President. | ||
| Alex Jones had Strychnine in his body, but it says he was killed by a nuke. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Also, who's going to be doing the autopsies of the nuclear-radiated corpses? | ||
| Insane. | ||
| I think we would just let that go. | ||
| No, because Alex would be in another city. | ||
| That's not fair. | ||
| You know, he would be in another city. | ||
| Oh, it would be a distraction. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I thought it was going to be like they murder him, then drop the nuclear bomb on it to cover it up. | ||
| Chicago is nuked, and meanwhile in Austin, Alex kicks the bucket. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Okay, now I get it. | ||
| That's stupid. | ||
| That is super stupid. | ||
| But also, I've started to notice he keeps saying, Katie, bar the door. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's another, like, fill your hand, kind of like, what the fuck is he saying? | ||
| Oh, you've never heard that one before? | ||
| Only from Alex. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I know from context that it means trouble. | ||
| I've been hearing that since I was knee-high to a Junebug. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Never heard that one either. | ||
| But I know that it means trouble's brewing. | ||
| You know, I get that. | ||
| I get from context clues. | ||
| But I looked it up. | ||
| It's a really obscure Scottish thing. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| I didn't know that. | ||
| I've never heard that. | ||
| Alex says it all the time. | ||
| He's Welsh. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It has a good ring to it. | ||
| It does. | ||
| It's got a good rhythm. | ||
| Katie bar the door. | ||
| It sounds hillbilly-ish. | ||
| It sounds hillbilly-ish. | ||
| Katie bar the door. | ||
| Well, look, the Scots, we know who we are. | ||
| We're hill people. | ||
| We're literally hill people. | ||
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You're Scottish. | |
| I am Scotch-Irish. | ||
| Okay, so that's the only reason you know it. | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sound off on Facebook, our new Facebook page, if you have ever heard Katie bar the door. | ||
| Give genealogy and your understanding of colloquialism. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Those two things are important for us to gauge. | ||
| So also on the August 12th show, Alex does one of his patented segments with Anthony Gucciardi, where they sit around and talk about how great their pills are. | ||
| How'd it go? | ||
| Are they great? | ||
| Yeah, pretty good. | ||
| Still great? | ||
| Pretty good. | ||
| So then we move on to August. | ||
| Man, that'd be fun if they just had one where he's like, guys, I fucked up. | ||
| Don't take this one pill I gave you. | ||
| I thought it was good. | ||
| Look at this fucking rash. | ||
| This is brutal. | ||
| We're going to get to a really weird testimonial about his pills. | ||
| In a little bit. | ||
| Weirder than Rob Dew's wife? | ||
| Yeah, weirder. | ||
| But we've got to start August 13th here, and Alex Jones has some really weird stuff to say about presidential hopefuls. | ||
| Now, most of the way he starts the show is by talking about how Jeb Bush is one of the big copos of the drug-running organizations, and he's a drug lord, basically. | ||
| He's a drug lord? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's always the quiet ones. | ||
| I haven't heard that one before. | ||
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Please clap for all this cocaine I'm bringing into the country. | |
| Yes! | ||
| So Alex is... | ||
| I think he might be a little bit off base on that, but we're not here to defend Jeb Bush. | ||
| But... | ||
| Don't give a fuck. | ||
| Alex goes on to say some other interesting things about other hopefuls. | ||
| And if we ever push it out in the open that Planned Parenthood created the Nazis, created them. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| If we ever... | ||
| Push it out in the open that they funded the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute and created Nazism before Hitler ever showed up. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And took over the National Socialist Workers Party. | ||
| If we're ever able to push out the organ harvesting of babies, then every other domino will fall. | ||
| And now major political Republican candidate Dr. Ben Carson, who I think would make a great president, by the way. | ||
| I mean, that would be a real black president right there. | ||
| A patriot, a Christian, a brain surgeon, a smart guy with a libertarian bent. | ||
| He's come out on the news and said, Planned Parenthood are the Klan, are the Nazis, are the enemy. | ||
| And picked up our push with Dr. Childress and others to say all lives matter and all black lives matter. | ||
| Because they obsess over, you know, maybe a hundred blacks shot a year in questionable circumstances. | ||
| Like it's the end of the world with George Soros funding it. | ||
| Well, we've got millions of blacks here getting chopped up inside the womb, and it's part of the Nazi operation. | ||
| So that's fascinating, just using... | ||
| Does he know what an abortion is? | ||
| Chopping them up in the womb. | ||
| Getting chopped up in the womb. | ||
| Chop it up. | ||
| So here's what I think he sees when you say abortion to him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Egg scrambler? | ||
| Yep, totally. | ||
| Right up in the V? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Swin it around! | ||
| Pull it right back out, you got little chunks of baby right there. | ||
| And then you sell it. | ||
| And then you sell it. | ||
| I think that's probably fairly accurate. | ||
| You got a baby puree. | ||
| Also, the fucking nonsense is, if you really, really hate abortion, then you really, really philosophically need to support contraception, and you need to support the morning-after pill. | ||
| And if you don't, then you're... | ||
| No, can't do that. | ||
| Then it's not about abortions. | ||
| It's about something else. | ||
| It's never been about abortions. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's about women being punished for having sex. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the other thing is Dr. Ben Carson is not a good candidate. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's a terrible candidate for the job he's doing now. | ||
| He's apparently a good brain surgeon. | ||
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| That's what I've been led to understand. | ||
| I've never done any research into it, but that's what I've heard. | ||
| I've heard he's a good surgeon. | ||
| He's still... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He never got fired? | ||
| He's not classically qualified. | ||
| He's not deep in blood. | ||
| He's not classically qualified to be in charge of HUD, certainly. | ||
| He's not qualified. | ||
| There's no classically to it. | ||
| I'm trying to be fair. | ||
| He's not qualified to do anything. | ||
| He's certainly not qualified to teach about the antiquity. | ||
| Ancient history? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Grain silos as pyramids and what have you? | ||
| Yeah, I don't want that in our government. | ||
| It's dubious. | ||
| Also, if Alex Jones says there's a real black president right there, that's code. | ||
| That's the first thing that I've ever heard where I'm like... | ||
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| Run, Ben! | ||
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Run! | |
| They're gonna get ya! | ||
| You don't want that! | ||
| You don't want that moniker! | ||
| You don't want that legacy. | ||
| You're going to be used as a racist trope. | ||
| Oh, exactly. | ||
| You're going to be used as a prop to attack Barack Obama. | ||
| There's, like, some sort of book. | ||
| Ugh, can't remember what it's called. | ||
| Oh, I getcha. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| So, it's interesting to me, though, that... | ||
| We've got a situation where he's super into Rand Paul. | ||
| He's indicated that he trusts Ted Cruz 95%. | ||
| And now he's saying Ben Carson would be a great president. | ||
| It's convoluted. | ||
| His beliefs are, he claims he's not a Republican. | ||
| Meanwhile, he's fine with the libertarianist of them all in Rand Paul. | ||
| Ted Cruz, a wacky Christian conservative asshole. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Ben Carson, a lunatic. | ||
| A complete Republican lunatic. | ||
| And the thing that combines all of them is severe distrust of Planned Parenthood and all liberal ideas. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| I mean, he's not really even... | ||
| Second Amendment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Second Amendment! | ||
| I guess they all are into guns. | ||
| But it's not... | ||
| I think that Alex Jones, one of the things that I'm starting to realize is that he doesn't define himself as a positively... | ||
| His beliefs aren't positive obligations, they're negative obligations. | ||
| He's against things as opposed to being for things. | ||
| Well, exactly. | ||
| Well, that's the entire right wing now. | ||
| He's not even for guns as much as he is against you taking them. | ||
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| No, exactly. | ||
| Well, what is, like... | ||
| That's what the GOP, in response to Obama, has been for eight years. | ||
| And at this point, seven years, right? | ||
| So they immediately got rid of any idea of, well, as what fuckface said, McConnell, it's our job to make sure that he doesn't get anything. | ||
| Our only job is to make sure he's a one-term president. | ||
| Not govern the country. | ||
| Not represent your people. | ||
| No. | ||
| But just delay. | ||
| Distract. | ||
| Avoid. | ||
| Deny. | ||
| Do all of this stuff. | ||
| So now all they have left is we're against stuff. | ||
| There's no like... | ||
| And that's why in 2017 they're putting so much of their capital on being against Obamacare. | ||
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Right. | |
| As opposed to creating something productive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, what is the AHCA but... | ||
| Cutting out all the good parts of Obamacare and leaving Obamacare. | ||
| And taking money. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's all it is. | ||
| It's just taking money away from us. | ||
| Reverse Peter Pan shit. | ||
| It's not something new. | ||
| It's not helping anybody. | ||
| It's not a positive thing. | ||
| It's not like you're introducing the AHCA. | ||
| You're just taking Obamacare, cutting out all of its insides. | ||
| Pulling them out and then drinking the blood for yourself. | ||
| And using rhetoric about why you're doing it with vague suggestions of freedom. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that sort of stuff. | ||
| Or even saying that we're going to make things better. | ||
| Is there any positive legislation that the GOP wants? | ||
| Anything like... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Here's what we want to make. | ||
| Here's something that we want to do. | ||
| As opposed to, here's all the stuff that we want... | ||
| That we don't want you to do. | ||
| I'm sure that there are if you get down to some lower levels. | ||
| I bet there are. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Maybe in state legislatures and stuff like that, I'm sure. | ||
| I hope not, because if it's anything like Kansas, they're gonna all go to fucking shit anyways. | ||
| Well, I have a really hard time... | ||
| I mean, it's hard to get away from this feeling, but I don't fully accept it, the idea that there is no moderate Republicans anymore. | ||
| I'm not saying that. | ||
| No, but I think a lot of people are. | ||
| And I think that it appears that way certainly on a national scale. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I'm positive that there are within states, within local bodies and stuff like that. | ||
| I think it's where we get into trouble. | ||
| The trouble there is very simple to me. | ||
| It is the same thing with police. | ||
| I know there are a lot of good police. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But if you are fine with the bad police murdering people, I don't really think you're good. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So that's the thing about moderate Republicans. | ||
| It's disqualifying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look, I get it. | ||
| You don't think you're racist. | ||
| And maybe you're not. | ||
| You think that it's all about taxes. | ||
| But you're fine with those fucks right over there. | ||
| So go fuck yourself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's no, like, oh, you get a different star. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, it's either you are going to break away from those idiots and say, no. | ||
| They're not Republicans. | ||
| They're not conservatives. | ||
| They're just fucking racists. | ||
| Being part of a group does not preclude your responsibilities as a person. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I think that's what it comes down to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we know now about these people who are running for president that Alex supports. | ||
| Loves them. | ||
| But we haven't heard any news, any updates on Trump. | ||
| Luckily, Alex has something to say on this August 13th episode. | ||
| And we had Rand Paul just three months ago, the frontrunner. | ||
| He'd been the frontrunner for a year. | ||
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Really? | |
| Now in the middle of the pack because of the Donald Trump extravaganza. | ||
| So here's all I'm saying. | ||
| I think most of what Trump's saying is dead on. | ||
| I like the fact he's aggressive. | ||
| He doesn't apologize. | ||
| That's refreshing. | ||
| Big dick. | ||
| He's confident and he has knowledge. | ||
| Blew me once. | ||
| Make no mistake, if he wanted to, he could win the presidency and he knows tactics and techniques of free market and cutting taxes that would reverse this country's nosedive and pull the world out of a depression. | ||
| But the very globalists that he's worked with his whole life don't want that. | ||
| They want to bring down national sovereignty and the middle class and the single family home and all the rest of it under the global treaty, Agenda 21. That is the plan. | ||
| Standardized from Germany to Australia to the United States. | ||
| From South Africa to Chile. | ||
| All these countries are basically under the same system. | ||
| And so I don't see Donald Trump delivering on that. | ||
| I hope he does. | ||
| I'm giving him benefit of the doubt. | ||
| And there are people that get violently angry if I don't denounce Donald Trump. | ||
| There are people that get viciously angry if I don't fall down on his feet and worship him as the second coming of Beelzebub. | ||
| All I know is I smell a big stinking rat. | ||
| That's not... | ||
| All right, so Trump is... | ||
| Wait, Trump is a rat? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Okay, so he's giving Trump the benefit of the doubt, but he smells a big stinking rat. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| So we're still right there on that. | ||
| I love all the stuff he's saying. | ||
| He's crazy. | ||
| I like his huge dick. | ||
| I love how he hates vaccines. | ||
| He's nuts, but I like it. | ||
| He's got a big ass. | ||
| I love to slap it. | ||
| But I don't think he really believes this shit. | ||
| Alex is a fake smart version of those people who we all knew, and maybe I was guilty of this for a very short period of time, where it was like, hey man. | ||
| It would be fucking crazy if he won. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, it would be like we'd have chocolate Sunday days as a holiday or whatever. | ||
| You know, fill in the blank. | ||
| Whatever lunacy would happen. | ||
| Like, it's kind of like we would be a circus. | ||
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Right. | |
| I think that Alex is kind of... | ||
| And it's kind of come true. | ||
| We are very much a circus. | ||
| But it's like the dark circus. | ||
| It's the Juggalos. | ||
| It's the Juggalos circus. | ||
| It's the dark carnival. | ||
| Actually, I'd be much more comfortable with that. | ||
| I would be too. | ||
| Whoop whoop to my brothers out there, my juggalettes. | ||
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Seems like, you know, what are their names? | |
| Shaggy Too Dope and Violent J? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Let's let them both be presidents. | ||
| Sure, co-presidents. | ||
| Secretary of State, blaze your dead homie. | ||
| Oh shit, miracles. | ||
| The entire Supreme Court is just... | ||
| Goddammit, I can't remember any. | ||
| I've never gone down the Juggalo. | ||
| Dark Lotus is the Supreme Court. | ||
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Oh boy. | |
| Never gone down that Juggalo rabbit hole. | ||
| You've never watched their commercials for The Gathering? | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| They're amazing. | ||
| They're so good. | ||
| I just don't need that in my life. | ||
| I've been trying to get press passes to go to The Gathering for like three years probably, but I always fuck it up. | ||
| Anyway, I'd love to go. | ||
| If any of you want to go get me press passes to go to The Gathering. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| Knowledge fight needs to cover the... | ||
| Oh man, if Alex Jones goes to the gathering... | ||
| They would eat him. | ||
| They would. | ||
| That would be funny. | ||
| Juggalos, I think, are too smart for Alex, quite frankly. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I think there's probably an overlap in audience, but I don't think it would be massive. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Because I think he would also hate them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| That would certainly be true. | ||
| I think he probably thinks they're a gang. | ||
| I think he probably thinks they're getting into some kind of satanic cult worshipping kind of thing. | ||
| And that's an easy opinion to have. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| But as we showed there, and as we've discovered, yep, his position hasn't really changed. | ||
| Still thinks he's untrustworthy, and I don't know. | ||
| Here's, in this next clip, Alex gets into his feelings about the Russians. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I laid it out a little bit at the top of the show, but here's where he's at with them. | ||
| Here's some of the news up on Infowars.com. | ||
| Not news. | ||
| State Department establishes propaganda training program in Lithuania to combat Russian media. | ||
| As they prepare to start a color revolution there, and they're trying to launch a color revolution inside Russia. | ||
| Talk about stirring up the Russians. | ||
| I mean, this is what Obama's doing. | ||
| And, of course, if the Russians were communist or evil or doing something to America, I'd say go ahead and do that. | ||
| But Russia's not doing anything to anybody. | ||
| George Soros overthrew Ukraine a year and a half ago, and is starting a proxy war, and he's trying to start a race war here in America. | ||
| I mean, these people are like... | ||
| Legion of Doom villains from a cartoon or something. | ||
| That's a bad way to look at the world. | ||
| That's a very bad way to look at the world. | ||
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Especially when you're in the Legion of Doom. | |
| He believes that all of it is just George Soros launching color revolutions around the world. | ||
| What does he mean by color revolutions? | ||
| Like the Arab Spring, the Purple Rebellion, the Orange Revolution. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Oh, so just revolution. | ||
| That have colors attached to them? | ||
| What color would your favorite revolution be? | ||
| Green. | ||
| This lime soda is a revolution. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| It's so tasty. | ||
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It is revolting in my mouth. | |
| It's not bad. | ||
| Lime is a great flavor. | ||
| I'm glad I had that moment where I couldn't sleep and thought about limes. | ||
| Who are you justifying this to be or to you? | ||
| Mostly myself. | ||
| This is to you, right? | ||
| So he says in there while you were yelling, he says Russia did nothing wrong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Russia did do a lot of wrong stuff. | ||
| A lot of wrong stuff. | ||
| They're continuing to do a lot of wrong stuff. | ||
| Crimea had already happened at this point. | ||
| It's not like that's in the future from this. | ||
| Now, granted, a lot of the stuff about the hacking and a lot of the stuff about the interfering in our election wasn't really publicly known at this point. | ||
| They had just started their campaign, apparently. | ||
| Like, the FBI has said that it started in the summer of 2015. | ||
| So there wasn't a lot to go on there. | ||
| I'll give Alex credit for not knowing about that. | ||
| But, yeah, in hindsight, if you look at that quote, it's like, they haven't done anything to us. | ||
| Well, now they have. | ||
| So, where are we at? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think the way that we talked about it on a few episodes ago was... | ||
| They know that something happened. | ||
| They're just trying to figure out the best way to handle this so we don't have to fight a world war. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're talking about in current day. | ||
| Yeah, in current day. | ||
| So it's hard to see what's happening now with the more and more information coming out very, very slowly. | ||
| It's like, shit, I think they're going to fight a war. | ||
| Well, the information that's been coming out is really, really strong indications that Putin was personally involved. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And we're seeing evidence starting to come out. | ||
| That pretty strong indications that voter rolls were at least tampered with, which could have disenfranchised tons of voters, made them ineligible to vote, canceled out their votes. | ||
| There's a lot of strong indications. | ||
| Some people are saying 23 states, some are saying 17, some are saying all 50 states were hacked in that way. | ||
| At the very least, it was like 20-something. | ||
| Yeah, which is very much like, oh, that's a war. | ||
| That's an act of war. | ||
| That's a literal act of war. | ||
| I mean, it's like the stuff that we've done to people. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| I mean, there is that to unpack, but that's too difficult. | ||
| And I'm not charmed by the argument, hey, it's okay they did it to us because we do it to people. | ||
| I didn't say that was a... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But I think a lot of people feel that way. | ||
| And I think it's a cogent position to have. | ||
| That it's very serious that they did it to us and we should stop doing it to other people. | ||
| I think we can do both. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's be better than the Russians. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think that those are two positions that are compatible. | ||
| These sorts of things are very, very, very serious. | ||
| And if Alex Jones, you know, in 2015 is saying they're not doing anything to us so we shouldn't be mad, we now are starting to see that there's pretty good evidence that they did do something to us. | ||
| You should be mad. | ||
| Well, and the craziest thing, like, did you read the Washington Post Obama article? | ||
| I did. | ||
| The one thing that boggled my mind is it's coming off, like, because the headline basically suggests, like, oh, Obama didn't do enough and he's going to regret that. | ||
| And then you dig into it and it's like, every time he went to any GOP leader, any of them, from a state legislature, from anywhere. | ||
| Didn't want to talk to him at all. | ||
| No, because they had eight years of we hate you built up in them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anything that he any alarm he's trying to sound is not going to be listened to. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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So. | |
| So, yeah. | ||
| And you could you could take that as like the, you know, is that evidence of collusion among some people? | ||
| But your your reaction to it is way better, which is just these guys hated Obama so much. | ||
| They were willing to let the country explode. | ||
| I think it could be a mixed bag. | ||
| I mean, it's certainly possible that both of those things are slightly true to differing degrees. | ||
| But then, I mean, even what Alex is literally talking about in this case is setting up outposts to fight Russian propaganda. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because Russians, whether they are our big bad guy or not, there's arguments you could see on both sides, at least at the stage of 2015. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They are notorious for propaganda. | ||
| It's kind of, they're really good at it. | ||
| Since the Cold War, that's been a really big piece of their warfare tactics. | ||
| Oh yeah, and not just that. | ||
| Because they had to. | ||
| They're way good at it. | ||
| They've been good at it since the beginning. | ||
| They're amazing. | ||
| They're so good at it. | ||
| And so I don't really see anything too evil or nefarious about the idea of setting up an outpost in Lithuania where we try and work against the insidious influence. | ||
| And destabilizing influence of Russia. | ||
| I mean, in that regard, he could just be like, oh, the government's setting up this outpost in Dan Friesen's house for this anti-propaganda show called Knowledge Fight. | ||
| That's an act of war! | ||
| He probably would think that. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| It's just, hey, they're lying. | ||
| Let's train people how to know when they're being lied to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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That's it. | |
| But then, you know, if you're both... | ||
| Or is it propaganda in the opposite direction? | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| There is a fine line between telling the truth and... | ||
| We live in such a fucked up time period where everybody lies all the time that it becomes this thing where if you're really just trying to poke holes in propaganda, the other side is just gonna be like, you're the propaganda. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just, it's exactly what happened with the fake news idea. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's like, the fake news is supposed to be about lies and propaganda. | ||
| And then the fake news turned it into about everything. | ||
| No, you're the fake news. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Because I found one instance of you saying President Bush. | ||
| Yeah, we live on a playground. | ||
| We live on the global playground where everybody's just like, you're ugly. | ||
| No, you're ugly. | ||
| I mean, that's the idea that I had during the ramp up to the election that just scared the shit out of me. | ||
| In the primaries, even, that was, there are no adults. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You always kind of get the sense growing up that when you're a kid, the adults will straighten this out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that a lot of people had the idea during the primaries that the adults will figure this out. | ||
| It's crazy now, but someone's going to step in and be like, this isn't going to work. | ||
| You can't do this. | ||
| Trump, you're having fun. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| I'm still kind of there where it's like, okay, Miller. | ||
| He's gonna just step in and he's gonna be like, guys, we fucked up. | ||
| We're gonna put him in jail and we'll do this all over again. | ||
| But no, everybody's fucking insane. | ||
| I think it's a self-defense mechanism in some ways because the idea that help isn't coming is incredibly scary. | ||
| But once you make sense of the fact that help isn't coming, you can become the help that you want in the world. | ||
| And I think that the reason that I decided to do this podcast is a direct response to the revelation that, Fucking help's not coming. | ||
| No, help isn't coming. | ||
| No one's going to take out Alex Jones. | ||
| And I don't want to take him out, necessarily. | ||
| But no one's going to work against him, and I'm uniquely situated to do so. | ||
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Right. | |
| So, on a very small scale, I'm here to help. | ||
| That's all we can do. | ||
| That's the best we can do. | ||
| Let's move along. | ||
| This next clip, we've been sort of documenting Alex Jones. | ||
| And his relationship with his own past as it relates to abortions. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And in this next clip, Alex Jones gets really weird about it. | ||
| I don't want to get preachy here. | ||
| I do not judge people who have had abortions and believed it was just birth control and didn't do it because they love death and hate their children and want to sell body parts. | ||
| But the people running the racket, they're the ones that have the bad hearts. | ||
| That's the big evil. | ||
| And for a lot of pro-life folks out here to say, well, what are you doing? | ||
| Telling people that have been involved in all this that it's okay. | ||
| I've studied the psychology. | ||
| People get into the abortion movement because they're guilty for what they've done. | ||
| They get judged and attacked, so they double down and commit to it. | ||
| That makes no sense. | ||
| But I've had incredible success, because I myself am guilty, of reaching out to people and saying, look, what matters is how your heart was. | ||
| And especially if it was early on, whatever, in my gut, all that matters is you repent. | ||
| And then realize you were fooled, you were deceived. | ||
| And that's part of dehumanization. | ||
| So Alex is talking about himself. | ||
| He's projecting like crazy. | ||
| That idea that most people get into the abortion game because they're guilty about their past is him talking about how guilty he is. | ||
| Which is why he's against abortion now. | ||
| He is assuming... | ||
| That people were trying to use his guilt to make him think that abortion is okay, when that's probably all just in his own head. | ||
| It's all entirely in his own head, yeah. | ||
| And so the function of that sentence, or that string of sentences that he was telling a caller, is him saying that, I felt that guilt, and they tried to get me, but I rose above it. | ||
| I rose above it. | ||
| I'm one of the rare ones who's able to not get wallowed down in guilt. | ||
| Which is insane, since clearly he's wallowed down in guilt about it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And that whole fucking idea of whatever it was in my heart is all that matters is such an escapist Christian idea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so, like, alright, I beat that guy's ass, but I meant well. | ||
| I went to my preacher, and I was like, dude, abortion? | ||
| But I felt good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I confessed in front of God and man. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And my heart is absolved of it. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Never have to worry about it again or change my actions! | ||
| Well, certainly he changed his actions in terms of slandering Planned Parenthood and Margaret Sanger all over the place. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So this next clip, Alex Jones talks about... | ||
| I wonder if he's paid for an abortion again. | ||
| He says he's paid for multiple ones in that past clip. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I bet he has. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I feel like it's irresponsible for us to speculate. | ||
| Okay, fair enough. | ||
| We know nothing about that stuff. | ||
| We do know nothing. | ||
| But you know what we do know? | ||
| Alex is fucking dumb. | ||
| In this next clip, he talks about racial relations in Dallas, where he grew up. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Look, I get there's a lot of racist black people. | ||
| That's not how you start. | ||
| In fact, a lot of black leaders, you've been more honest, have pointed out that black people on average are some of the most racist people you're ever going to find. | ||
| Does that mean a majority are racist? | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| Does that not mean they're not wonderful, beautiful black people? | ||
| With incredible culture and art and everything else who I love. | ||
| Man, he's going to drop the hammer here. | ||
| But I grew up in Dallas, Texas. | ||
| The most racist hammer. | ||
| And let me tell you, there's a lot of racist black people. | ||
| I've seen a lot more racist black people than I have seen white people. | ||
| Which would be... | ||
| Impossible. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| It would be impossible. | ||
| Well, the reason that it's possible is if you don't think that racist things are racist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, he's gone on his show and talked about how blackface itself isn't racist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's allowed Gavin McGinnis to come on and say that most of blackface is reverent. | ||
| Well, it's, I mean... | ||
| So just take that as a microcosm. | ||
| His argument makes sense in his mind because nothing he does is racist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the only racist things that happen are done by people who aren't... | ||
| Exactly like him. | ||
| Which is a racist thought in and of itself. | ||
| He's being racist by saying that he's not... | ||
| And further, he allows the rationalizations and the bullshit that a white racist would say about their actions. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He accepts those as legitimate sort of like, oh, that's why you did that thing that seems fucked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or, I mean, like, Dylann Roof. | ||
| He's like, hey, he's dumb. | ||
| He should have become an abortionist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, so dismissive of that act of racism. | ||
| Whereas he would not give the same leeway to black people. | ||
| If a black person does something that's racist, he's just like, you fucking race pimp. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, so... | ||
| And also, I want to know what black leaders he's talked to... | ||
| Khalid Mohammed, maybe? | ||
| ...that give him... | ||
| Carte Blanche to say whatever the fuck he wants. | ||
| He claims he's been slandered by Farrakhan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I don't think that's too hard to do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, so later on the show, he has an interview with his newly hired investigative reporter, Wayne Madsen. | ||
| Oh, how long did Wayne stick around? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's been around for two episodes so far. | ||
| And on the first episode, he talks about how Hillary Clinton's cook was murdered. | ||
| And this is the key to everything. | ||
| Hillary Clinton's cook was murdered. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So we're in full-on clue territory. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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All righty. | |
| Excellent. | ||
| The cook was found dead with a note on him that said, contact Larry Nichols. | ||
| Which to me means something is not right. | ||
| Wait, that's a real thing? | ||
| No. | ||
| But that's what he said. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| So anyway, apparently this cook, he was the White House chef on 9-11 and he knew something about it. | ||
| See, now I'm just thinking about how much fun it would be if we just wandered around and every time we found a dead body, we just put a note on there that's called Larry Nichols. | ||
| We have his number. | ||
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Yes! | |
| We could do that! | ||
| We should call Larry Nichols and ask about that cook. | ||
| Oh, that's a good thing. | ||
| Maybe we'll get back to that. | ||
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Maybe we will. | |
| So, Wayne Madsen is on this time. | ||
| Still got him saved in my phone. | ||
| We'd have to let him know that we were recording. | ||
| That's true, so we can actually air it. | ||
| Wayne Madsen's on this time, and his big narrative is that Jeb Bush is connected to the cartels. | ||
| That's his sort of reporting that he gets into. | ||
| I don't really care. | ||
| It's not... | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| But at one point, Wayne Madsen does say that Trump... | ||
| He's saying this as a positive, mind you. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| He says that Trump is like a millionaire Archie Bunker. | ||
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Whew. | |
| I don't think they understood the point. | ||
| I don't think they got the point of Archie Bunker at all. | ||
| After I heard him say that, I was like, Archie Bunker is an archetype of an old racist. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So I went back and I watched some clips from All in the Family. | ||
| It's way worse than you remember. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He calls black people coons all the time. | ||
| He claims that all Europeans are fags. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| And actually, because I started looking around for this, there is a sizable YouTube community that believes that Archie Bunker was a warning of the truth. | ||
| There are a number of people who have put out videos about how This was like a subtle warning that we all just laughed at. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Wait, you're finding the truth in All in the Family. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Dude, open a book. | |
| Just one. | ||
| The other thing, too, is that those videos about how Archie Bunker was a prophet have like 400,000 views. | ||
| That bums me out. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Bums me out. | ||
| Archie Bunker was a prophet. | ||
| For good? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
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Oh. | |
| So, also, another thing is the collapse narrative is spinning along as it does. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He's mentioning that you need to buy gold. | ||
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August, September, October. | |
| Actually... | ||
| Then we still gotta have a good Christmas? | ||
| Actually, hold on. | ||
| You know, you're putting these time frames on things, and I want you to hold off on that for just a second. | ||
| Because Alex wants to, before he gets into another interview... | ||
| He's got to do a little sales pitch. | ||
| And he wants to tell you that all of these other places, like PBS, they force you to pay for them. | ||
| It's taxes. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Taxes go to them. | ||
| MSNBC, they get tons of taxpayer money just to give fucking Rachel Maddow a raise, but not him. | ||
| He's based on free will. | ||
| But it's all about free will. | ||
| We don't... | ||
| Take a gun, put it to your head, and take money for banker bailouts. | ||
| We don't take money and give it to NPR, MSNBC, and stimulus money to give Rachel Maddow a raise so she can interview Michael Moore. | ||
| We're just here saying we've got great products. | ||
| If you believe in what we're doing, buy them. | ||
| And then we're a platform to have people like Mr. Dent on and others. | ||
| Now, I'm ranting. | ||
| So, Mr. Dent is on. | ||
| Who is Mr. Dent? | ||
| Arthur Dent? | ||
| Yes, it's Arthur Dent. | ||
| No, his first name escapes me. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's on a bit. | ||
| Peter Dent, I think? | ||
| Harry Dent. | ||
| Harry Dent. | ||
| Harry Dent is on. | ||
| He's an economist. | ||
| That's an unfortunate name. | ||
| Yeah, it's like your butthole. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My butthole is a Harry Dent. | ||
| I got a Harry Dent right over here. | ||
| So he's an economist and he's on a bit. | ||
| He's in the Peter Schiff League of Alex Jones guests in terms of these sort of out there economists that come on. | ||
| But I want to deal with the premise that Alex is making that he's based on free will. | ||
| And he doesn't have a gun to your head saying you've got to pay. | ||
| Now, that may be true. | ||
| But all of his premise, like all of his supplements, all of these things are based on the globalists are doing things to you by the water that you drink, poisoning the foods you make. | ||
| And so because I'm scaring you, you are not going to be a complete healthy person unless you take these supplements. | ||
| Which is kind of a gun to the head. | ||
| I'm creating a problem. | ||
| That I will insist is life-threatening. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I am providing the solution. | ||
| It's the Hegelian dialect. | ||
| Which is life-saving. | ||
| Yeah, it's the problem-reaction solution. | ||
| In which case, essentially, I am threatening you until you take my products. | ||
| Right, and we already... | ||
| So it's like you have a gun to your head! | ||
| And even worse, we've already discussed on a past episode about the... | ||
| Disaster narrative. | ||
| The economy is about to collapse. | ||
| By gold. | ||
| Only to have Ted Anderson of Midas Resources as a guest to tell you, hey, here's the answer. | ||
| $50,000 an ounce. | ||
| So now on Alex's show here on this 13th day of August, he's saying it's about free will. | ||
| I'm not trying to force you to buy any products. | ||
| If you like the stuff we do, like having Harry Dent on, give us your money. | ||
| And we'll shove it up our own Harry Dent. | ||
| Now, here is an excerpt of Harry Dent on the show. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
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China is the greatest bubble in history. | |
| It is finally coming unraveled. | ||
| That's why I am confident that we are within, I'd say, weeks of the global bubble bursting again. | ||
| China was the first thing actually before that in March. | ||
| Germany, the leading market in Europe, looked like it peaked to me. | ||
| And then the China crash in late May. | ||
| And now I think the U.S. markets are going to start heading down by early September, probably peaking in the next week or two. | ||
| So I think this is happening. | ||
| They'll come back up by Christmas, though. | ||
| Yeah, because everybody's got to have a good Christmas. | ||
| It's within weeks. | ||
| Yeah, it's within weeks. | ||
| It's happening now. | ||
| That is so irresponsible. | ||
| Even economy shows, financial shows shouldn't be saying shit like that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| With professors and really credentialed people shouldn't be saying stuff like that to ignorant audiences because people will believe them. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And we weren't weeks away. | ||
| And especially since economics is also a belief system. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just like we talked about before with runs on the bank destroying banks. | ||
| There is a shared concept that the economy is going to go well because we're all participating in it. | ||
| And if you think it's going to fall apart... | ||
| You're going to stop participating. | ||
| You can sabotage. | ||
| Which will then make it fall apart. | ||
| So the constant fear metanarrative of the economy is always on this cusp of collapse is basically saying all of society is always on the cusp of collapse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it is a shared idea that we all live in one. | ||
| You know, that kind of a thing. | ||
| Totally agree. | ||
| So you're just... | ||
| And it all feeds into that... | ||
| The whole thing is coming down. | ||
| The whole thing is coming down. | ||
| It's always coming down. | ||
| And now it kind of feels like it's coming down. | ||
| Yeah, but not in the same way. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's a very different way. | ||
| Like, we have some fear and doom feelings, for sure. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But we're not telling you to buy gold. | ||
| No. | ||
| Please don't buy gold. | ||
| Buy water. | ||
| Maybe have some water in the house. | ||
| Invest in water. | ||
| Have some water in your house. | ||
| So much water. | ||
| Maybe some ramen. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| Cans of food is not a bad thing. | ||
| But even in the same way that when I was growing up, my parents had a stock of food in the basement. | ||
| But it wasn't because of collapse or disasters. | ||
| It was because we lived in Missouri. | ||
| And there were tornadoes. | ||
| And if our house got destroyed by a tornado... | ||
| The basement would be safe, and we could be down in the basement and eat these cans of food. | ||
| For a while, in case you got trapped or anything like that. | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| There's a hundred reasons why that is a very sensible perspective to have. | ||
| And put a blanket in your car. | ||
| It's just always a good idea. | ||
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And fill the rest of the basement with gold. | |
| You hear me? | ||
| You hear me? | ||
| Dan, Dan, are you crazy? | ||
| You build the basement out of gold. | ||
| Gold deflects tornadoes. | ||
| Everyone knows that. | ||
| That's why... | ||
| Is this true? | ||
| That's why Bill Gates is trying to get all the gold. | ||
| This is true. | ||
| Because he's got weather manipulation weapons. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And he can shoot tornadoes at your house. | ||
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All right. | |
| And if he has all the gold, then you can't deflect the tornadoes. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It's fucking basic supply and demand. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, then you're right. | ||
| Guys. | ||
| I'm quoting... | ||
| Buy tornado gold. | ||
| Quoting Harry Dent there on my last rant. | ||
| I wasn't. | ||
| That's not fair. | ||
| No. | ||
| So that's the end of our coverage of the 13th. | ||
| And as we see, his position has not changed really on Trump at all. | ||
| The 14th is incredibly fucked up. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| Is this where it turns? | ||
| No. | ||
| Not necessarily. | ||
| But the show itself is not really that great. | ||
| There's not much going on on the show. | ||
| Let me consult my notes. | ||
| I want to take care of the important pieces before we start playing clips. | ||
| So he's saying more pro-Russia stuff about how it's just Soros trying to start a color revolution. | ||
| Also, Hillary's emails are now starting to be in play. | ||
| The FBI had taken her server at this point. | ||
| And as we all know, that investigation turned out to not really turn up all that much. | ||
| That was that big a problem. | ||
| It was basically the Planned Parenthood investigation all over again. | ||
| Yeah, and so also, they have a straight out of Compton review done by Kit Daniels and Jakari Jackson. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| So Jakari is still around at this point. | ||
| That's important to point out. | ||
| He hasn't bailed. | ||
| No, the review is, hey, this movie was really good, but also the CIA created rap music. | ||
| That's an interesting review. | ||
| Why didn't they get into that in the movie? | ||
| That's an interesting review. | ||
| So he has an interview with Peter Schiff, who comes on to stress the disaster narrative, the financial collapse narrative. | ||
| And in this one, they start talking about Peter Schiff's dad a bunch. | ||
| And they talk about how he's a political prisoner, he's in prison, and he should not be. | ||
| And they say that it's because he wrote a book. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Called Federal Mafia. | ||
| And it's a book about how you don't have to pay your taxes. | ||
| So he's in jail for tax evasion. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Of fucking course! | ||
| They don't really talk about that. | ||
| How is he a political prisoner? | ||
| They don't talk about how the things that he was charged with were that... | ||
| He didn't pay millions of dollars of taxes dating back to, like, the early 80s. | ||
| So, I mean, how long has he been in jail for? | ||
| Well, he's dead now. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| He dies, like, a couple months after this point in 2015. | ||
| He died in, like, October 2015. | ||
| How long did they say... | ||
| I think he was in jail for, like, 10 years. | ||
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Oh. | |
| That might not even be that long, but he got, like, a 13-year sentence. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| For 30 years of tax evasion. | ||
| And, like, millions of dollars. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Millions of dollars. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And the other thing is that he had a lot of disciples, because he was this guy who was writing these anti-tax books. | ||
| Where you don't have to pay taxes. | ||
| And all of these people ended up going to jail. | ||
| Like, he screwed over a lot of people with very inaccurate information. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He was committing a fraud on them. | ||
| Maybe not a fraud that was about self-enrichment, but it was a fraud that led people to think that they didn't have to pay taxes and that all of that was fake. | ||
| And so they ended up defrauding the government of over, I think it was like $70 million. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| Just people who are directly associated with him. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And most of them got shorter prison sentences than him. | ||
| Right, because they didn't write a book saying, don't pay your fucking taxes. | ||
| And he also got a contempt of court charge because he acted up in court in some ways. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| He was like, I'm not paying for this! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And all they do on the show is talk about how his dad is in prison because he wrote this book and they allow people to sell the book. | ||
| But he can't sell the book. | ||
| And the reason that is, is because he can't profit off the crime. | ||
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Right. | |
| He committed a crime, and it would be illegal, according to the First Amendment, for them to not allow that book to be out there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It would be the equivalent of book burning. | ||
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Right. | |
| And so they're like... | ||
| He wrote a second book called, If I Didn't Pay Taxes, Here's How I Wouldn't Have Done It. | ||
| So the book can exist, but he can't make money off of it. | ||
| And so he ended up just giving away for free online. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Which is even crazier to me. | |
| Why would you give it away? | ||
| I mean, unless he still believes in it. | ||
| Oh, he totally did. | ||
| He went to his death, but still believing it. | ||
| But he did time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And here's the fucked up thing. | ||
| I looked into it, and when he was first getting charged, him and his lawyer tried to use essentially an insanity defense. | ||
| They tried to use a defense that a mental disorder caused him to have these beliefs and that he shouldn't be held responsible for them. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, then what do you do with him? | ||
| You just let him keep selling the book? | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| That is him trying to dodge responsibility. | ||
| But his angle on it was, no, no, no. | ||
| I did that because I wanted to get in front of a jury. | ||
| They would have just had a judge decide it if I hadn't have tried to do an insanity plea. | ||
| Like, I don't think that's how this works. | ||
| That's not how that works at all. | ||
| No, so Irwin Schiff is, I mean, God rest his soul, it's sad, whatever, but... | ||
| Eh, I don't care. | ||
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He was in prison for millions of dollars of tax evasion. | |
| That is it. | ||
| Yeah, not political prisoner. | ||
| No, but it is a political prisoner if you're one of these crazy fucking libertarians who thinks that taxes are a crime against you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The taxation is violence. | ||
| Ugh, anyway. | ||
| I just want to show these people the world that they think they want to live in because it's fucking insane. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| If you want to be a libertarian in that way, you can do it. | ||
| Go to a fucking forest, build your cabin, and hunt. | ||
| You don't have to pay taxes on... | ||
| Haunting shit? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As long as nobody's there and nobody knows, then fine. | ||
| Live your libertarian idea. | ||
| But just know, you won't have electricity, you won't have fucking roads, your kids won't go to school. | ||
| All of this shit is because of taxes! | ||
| So if you are a libertarian, take your fucking kid out of school, throw your phone in the garbage, get rid of all of this shit, because you don't get it! | ||
| And quite frankly, that's because we've already had the conversation. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Society has decided... | ||
| We figured it out! | ||
| Yeah, society has decided that collectively we can create a much better place to live than killing things in the woods with no electricity and no Netflix. | ||
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Right. | |
| And if that's what... | ||
| But if... | ||
| Yeah, that's the other thing. | ||
| If you're a libertarian, you're not allowed to watch Netflix. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| You can watch Hulu. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And not Hulu Plus. | ||
| No, because that's taxation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So all that's some crazy shit. | ||
| But the stuff I want to talk about more is a narrative. | ||
| There is a... | ||
| Every now and again, Alex Jones, his show has a beginning, middle, and end that logically makes sense. | ||
| And there is a storyline that goes throughout it that he did not intend. | ||
| And this episode, I'm going to lay out... | ||
| The exact narrative, and it's way more fucked up than you can possibly imagine. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So here's the first clip where he's talking about, he's reading a review from the internet of his product, Brain Force. | ||
| And I wanted to give you a review by loss from Panorama City, California on Brain Force. | ||
| Didn't think much was happening. | ||
| Was taking it for a week. | ||
| With the secret B12. | ||
| I cannot stress enough that brain body is missing. | ||
| When I skipped it one day, I felt like I was either missing screws or loose screws in my head. | ||
| Great for concentration and focus. | ||
| I take it after lunch, for energy, and the rest of the day, thanks to all the info warriors. | ||
| Yeah, that's the thing. | ||
| When I don't take brain force, I feel it. | ||
| And that's what's so amazing about it. | ||
| Somebody ran off of my open bottle. | ||
| I need to take one. | ||
| No! | ||
| Gross! | ||
| When I don't take the brain force, that's when I notice it. | ||
| And I actually didn't take my brain force today. | ||
| I'm still awake, still have a lot of energy, but this doesn't have the classical stimulants in it. | ||
| It has key compounds you can read about on the website, watch informational videos about. | ||
| I won't waste your time with it. | ||
| If you're interested, go read about it. | ||
| That are prescription in Europe. | ||
| Two of the ingredients, prescription in Europe. | ||
| And they're trying to make a prescription here. | ||
| So in that gap there, he took a pill. | ||
| Do you... | ||
| Are you not capable, Alex, of seeing how if you don't take it, you feel it? | ||
| That's not the same thing as taking it makes me feel good. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's the same thing as, like, you know, if I don't smoke for after... | ||
| Having smoked for ten years or whatever, I feel it. | ||
| You know, I'm nervous, I'm anxious, I'm irritable. | ||
| All of these things. | ||
| That's called addiction. | ||
| He's describing essentially withdrawals. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And so is that review. | ||
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| And Alex pops a pill on the show. | ||
| Yeah, well that's very responsible. | ||
| And this is the beginning of the narrative. | ||
| Because we get to watch what happens to somebody who takes brain force. | ||
| No shit! | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Something actually happens? | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| Okay, fuck yeah. | ||
| I'm way in. | ||
| Now, it's debatable whether it's psychosomatic. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's unclear. | ||
| It's probably like a homeopathic thing, but we'll see what's up. | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| Look, I don't think that there's anything... | ||
| Let me be perfectly clear. | ||
| It doesn't make him more focused. | ||
| It does not do what is on label. | ||
| Right. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| But it's really crazy. | ||
| Because about half an hour after he takes that pill, he changes. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And we'll see exactly what happens. | ||
| But in the meantime, he's got to make some other bullshit claims. | ||
| So this next claim, he... | ||
| What if it was just Coke? | ||
| What if he just took a Coke pill? | ||
| Quite frankly, what we're going to see, it might as well be. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| But I don't think Coke would work if you took it as a pill. | ||
| I don't think so either, but why not give it a shot? | ||
| Anyway, this next thing is just absolutely insanity. | ||
| And then let's grab the Spokane video from last year where the SWAT team commander goes, we need this armored vehicle. | ||
| There are a lot of gun owners and veterans and constitutionalists. | ||
| And we've got them in Indiana saying the same thing. | ||
| Constitutionalists haven't done anything to anybody. | ||
| I mean, maybe three cops a year. | ||
| On average, I think four got killed in 2013, three in 2014. | ||
| And I think two cops so far have been killed by constitutionalists where the media could link it to a group. | ||
| Sovereign citizens. | ||
| I mean, that's one of the lowest crime rates of any group out there. | ||
| But if you watch MSNBC, you'd believe there is just an epidemic of police being killed by right-wingers. | ||
| And it's total baloney. | ||
| But they keep saying it's going to happen. | ||
| And a lot of it is that it gets the police in this attitude of messing with constitutionalists. | ||
| And then you get a self-fulfilling prophecy. | ||
| So, let's just talk about... | ||
| Constitutionalists haven't done anything to anybody. | ||
| They kill four cops a year. | ||
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Maybe they've killed four or five cops, but that's nothing. | |
| Here's some headlines from this week, just about this. | ||
| Judge sentences sovereign citizen 12 years in prison for Oak Ridge Rampage. | ||
| And that story is about a guy who was convicted of one count of reckless vehicular homicide and eight counts of reckless aggravated assault. | ||
| He drove in reverse through a crowd of about 200 people during a 4th of July 2015 fireworks show at a park. | ||
| That's a sovereign citizen who did that. | ||
| Here's another one. | ||
| My computer's taking too long to load up. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| It's probably the sovereign citizens fucking with my Wi-Fi. | ||
| They're not allowing this shit to happen. | ||
| The Libertarians finally won, and we don't, any of us, have Wi-Fi anymore. | ||
| Oak Ridge, sovereign citizen who killed man, sentenced Monday. | ||
| Same guy. | ||
| Two stories about the same guy. | ||
| So, I mean, there we go. | ||
| My bad. | ||
| But be that as it may, that's one guy who killed a dude and injured eight other people at a 4th of July. | ||
| That's Americana. | ||
| Was it a cop? | ||
| He's attacking a fireworks show. | ||
| No, that's fair. | ||
| So then, that's doing nothing. | ||
| Also, if you don't know about Sovereign Citizens, all of you out there listening, I highly encourage you, look it up on YouTube. | ||
| Because they're fucking hilarious. | ||
| If you take out all of the, like, they do kill people stuff, watching them argue in court is so funny. | ||
| They argue in court? | ||
| Well, they don't believe... | ||
| That they are sovereign. | ||
| They don't believe in the integrity or the right of the courts. | ||
| They believe that America was established on, like, admiralty law, maritime law, and that... | ||
| So here's the deal. | ||
| And everybody was just forgotten? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it's secret. | ||
| It's a secret thing. | ||
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It's a secret? | |
| Yeah, it's a secret thing. | ||
| Everybody behind the scenes knows the truth, but they don't tell you. | ||
| See, you know on your government documents, your name is in capital letters. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know what that means? | ||
| Because the capital letters, that's not you as a person. | ||
| That's you as a financial entity, right? | ||
| You are just created in order to get debt. | ||
| Put into your name under the capital letters version of your name. | ||
| Now you, with a capital J, lowercase O-R-D-A-N, that's you as a human, flesh and blood. | ||
| That's your sovereign entity. | ||
| But these capital letters, that's the tax identity. | ||
| So every time you go to court, if you go to court... | ||
| All the documents in court are all these capital letters. | ||
| That's not you as a person. | ||
| They're trying your tax identity. | ||
| They're trying you as a financial entity. | ||
| So if you go to court... | ||
| And never speak again. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| The argument is on capitalization of letters. | ||
| That's a big part of it, yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So it's amazing, though, because they don't respect the court's authority. | ||
| That's pretty funny. | ||
| And they say... | ||
| Awesome stuff that just makes no sense. | ||
| And some of the judges are really, they try. | ||
| They try to treat them like, okay, well, what are you trying to get at? | ||
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That sort of stuff. | |
| Excuse me, could you make sense, crazy person? | ||
| But there's one where an old man is in court and the judge eventually just gets... | ||
| Really fed up. | ||
| And so she goes to Chambers and he's like, the judge has vacated the court! | ||
| I now claim this court! | ||
| And so he's like, she's left. | ||
| All the charges are dropped. | ||
| She has left the court. | ||
| And so he leaves and he gets in a car and drives away. | ||
| And then there's an addendum. | ||
| He got arrested the next day. | ||
| Yeah, I'm a fucking... | ||
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Wait. | |
| And contempt of court charges. | ||
| Yeah, I would hope so. | ||
| These people are... | ||
| They are really... | ||
| It's really funny to see these videos on YouTube, but the dangerous ramifications of it is if you don't believe in any of the authority of things, you do think that any cop who pulls you over is aggressing upon you. | ||
| Also, another part of sovereign citizen identity is in order to be your whole lowercase lettered soul version of yourself, the human version, you have to renounce The capital letter version of yourself. | ||
| And to do so, you have to write a letter and send your ID and your identification documents back to the government and give them notice of your rejection of this tax entity version of yourself. | ||
| Who is making up this fantasy world? | ||
| So in order to do that, now, if you were ever driving, you don't have an ID. | ||
| So if you get pulled over by a cop, you're automatically going to at least get a ticket, maybe arrested. | ||
| So every time a sovereign citizen runs into a cop, it's basically a situation where they're going to get arrested. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So it really is a powder keg in a lot of ways. | |
| See, the thing is, all right? | ||
| See, the thing is. | ||
| I just, I just, it sounds to me like the world's shittiest religion. | ||
| It basically is. | ||
| Like, because, and that's, like, the idea that. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The government and the laws have been around for 300 years or whatever. | ||
| But, have you considered that maybe they made a typo? | ||
| Maritime law! | ||
| And that means none of it applies to me! | ||
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What? | |
| It's not like Cinderella where it's like, oh, if you don't sign this by midnight, none of the... | ||
| No! | ||
| It's not a hex. | ||
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No! | |
| What is... | ||
| It's not fucking magic! | ||
| No, but it is an extreme version of distrust of the government. | ||
| It's an extreme version of libertarianism, even to some extent. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Because another one of their pieces of their belief is that the government shouldn't have any... | ||
| Or it's not supposed to have any control over traveling. | ||
| And they conceive... | ||
| Well, they conceive of, like, driving as traveling. | ||
| And so, like, I don't need a driver's license to travel. | ||
| You're not traveling, you're driving. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I did a lot of looking into them a while back, and it's fucking fascinating. | ||
| But if you're not an idiot and you look at it, you realize that, oh, this is a real short walk. | ||
| From real serious problems. | ||
| People not respecting courts means they're going to get arrested a bunch. | ||
| Right. | ||
| People not respecting police means you're going to get arrested a bunch. | ||
| Means you're going to feel like... | ||
| They don't have any kind of authority to arrest you. | ||
| And you're going to feel threatened every time you run into one. | ||
| Every single time. | ||
| And you're already a fucking idiot. | ||
| And you're not going to be threatened in the same way that, or you're not going to feel threatened in the same way that, let's say, minorities do, which is based on systematic oppression over years. | ||
| You're going to feel threatened by a real silly maritime law-based admiralty thing delusion. | ||
| But anyway, I still recommend people go watch some of these YouTube videos. | ||
| They're amazing. | ||
| So Alex gets down that road, and that's while the... | ||
| Brain force hasn't yet kicked in. | ||
| It's sort of in that gestation period, you know, right before the ride starts. | ||
| Still swirling around in them guts. | ||
| And here's where it kicks in. | ||
| Alex gets on a little bit of a rant, where he starts by talking about how honest he is, and then talks a bit about how he's so honest he's rude to his girlfriends. | ||
| And then it just goes from there. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And notice the sheriff says we're liars. | ||
| I remember the articles we wrote about last year when all this broke. | ||
| And his video press release where he says Infowars are liars. | ||
| Buddy, I'm a liar! | ||
| Stop there. | ||
| Like I'm a Chinese jet pilot from Pluto. | ||
| I mean, my problem is I can't control myself if I tell the truth. | ||
| Sometimes when I should just keep my mouth shut. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I crave the truth. | ||
| I live the truth. | ||
| I want to be the truth. | ||
| I mean, I'm so truthful that when, you know, girlfriends and stuff would ask me, does this dress look good? | ||
| I'd tell you no. | ||
| Or does this zit on the end of my nose look bad? | ||
| Yeah, it looks bad. | ||
| So what? | ||
| Rude. | ||
| All I got is my integrity. | ||
| That's why they always attack it. | ||
| Because they got my phones tapped, my computers tapped. | ||
| They know all about me going back to high school. | ||
| They know how real I am. | ||
| This is where it gets real. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm about to see this go wild. | ||
| So this is where shit just jumps off in a serious way. | ||
| And you can see a change in him. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| Always been involved. | ||
| I've been involved fighting tyranny since I was 14 years old before I even knew I was doing it. | ||
| I'm at a party with my buddy's older brother. | ||
| His older brother's getting drugs for cheerleaders. | ||
| I notice it's a guy in a uniform driving off in the Corvette. | ||
| I say to his brother, was that a cop just sold you that pot in that ecstasy? | ||
| I wasn't smoking the pot or taking the ecstasy. | ||
| It was for the cheerleaders. | ||
| And he said, yeah, keep your mouth shut. | ||
| That's super rapey. | ||
| That's super rapey. | ||
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I think I was like 12 or 13. You think that's better, but that's worse. | |
| I'd see cops that I knew were dealing drugs, and I'd be like, they'd pull over me and my buddy who was older, driving with a six-pack of beer under the seat, and they'd go, I'm going to take you to jail for this. | ||
| And I'd say, I saw you deal drugs a few years ago. | ||
| And the cop would just freak out and start hyperventilating and say, you want me to kill you, kid? | ||
| And I said, man, I don't know what you're doing, but you're not going to take me to jail for beer when you're a drug dealer. | ||
| 14 years old. | ||
| I understood that stuff. | ||
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I understood that stuff. | |
| And Texas Monthly didn't believe me, so they went and investigated in Rockwall and found out the sheriff went to prison for cocaine importation and that the police department had been implicated in drug rinks. | ||
| Hell, they ran the prostitutes, they ran the drugs, all of it. | ||
| And I wasn't involved in it. | ||
| I lived in a wealthy, golf course, upper middle class neighborhood. | ||
| And I mean, I just saw it for myself. | ||
| I want to stipulate... | ||
| That was a fucked up story. | ||
| I want to stipulate that this one might be true. | ||
| That does sound true. | ||
| I did look into it, and the sheriff of Rockwall did get busted for drug charges. | ||
| I can't find independent confirmation of that. | ||
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Cool. | |
| Now, here's the thing. | ||
| Alex is a liar. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That story about the Rockwall sheriff came out in 2009. | ||
| There is an entire possibility that he built a fictitious past for himself based on the knowledge that that story had broken. | ||
| So that's entirely possible. | ||
| So you think it's possible that he saw that that had been broken and then wrote like the false recovered memories kind of thing where it's like he saw that and he goes, "Oh, I Yeah. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| Although, also, the only reason that I think this story sounds true... | ||
| Is when he said, they're getting drugs for cheerleaders. | ||
| And he thought it was better that he wasn't taking the drugs. | ||
| He was like, see, I wouldn't take the drugs. | ||
| We are giving them to young, impressionable women. | ||
| I'm 12. We're drugging them. | ||
| That's what he's saying. | ||
| He witnessed... | ||
| He witnessed his buddies drug women. | ||
| But also, I mean, sure, there is the Cosby aspect to it, but you've got to also consider this was like the mid-80s at the time. | ||
| You know, there was some rave culture that was going on. | ||
| It's not necessarily that they were drugging people as much as maybe they were supplying. | ||
| It's possible that these cheerleaders that he's referencing did want recreational drugs. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no. | ||
| I'm not saying that it's a problem. | ||
| I'm saying that... | ||
| To me, if you go to a party, you know, join in the party. | ||
| Don't go to a party like that if you're 12. I believe he's 14. No, he was 12 at the party. | ||
| He was 12. At the party. | ||
| 14 when he got pulled over with beer under the seat. | ||
| Well, that's a crime! | ||
| Sure, but the guy's a drug dealer. | ||
| And then the cop threatened to kill him. | ||
| I don't think that one's true. | ||
| Some of that's embellishment, obviously. | ||
| Obviously, Alex is very bizarre a couple years after his termite poison exposure. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Which I actually did look into, and I found pretty good evidence that an acute exposure for just like an hour, even. | ||
| Can cause serious mental degradation. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So they've done studies. | ||
| So he's fucked. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| But as it relates to this story, there's one possibility that he's not lying. | ||
| That this could be one of the things he said that's true. | ||
| Or, like you said, false recovered memories based on hearing this story from 2009. | ||
| But he's not done with his rant yet. | ||
| And I'm not talking about me anymore. | ||
| It's not about Alex Jones. | ||
| It's that I had these experiences, and I'm not going to be signed on to it aborting babies. | ||
| Because if I go along with it, I'm involved in it. | ||
| I'm not going to go along with Dine Corps grabbing five-year-olds and putting them on slave trains. | ||
| I'm not going to be involved in it. | ||
| And let me tell you, if I don't fight it, I'm involved in it. | ||
| I mean, I feel guilty that I'm not doing enough to fight it. | ||
| When I cover this stuff, I feel like I've done it. | ||
| That's what I call God-fearing. | ||
| I mean, to explain how this feels. | ||
| I feel guilty for all this stuff. | ||
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I feel guilty for all this stuff. | |
| Okay. | ||
| I mean, I've seen, like, white thugs, black thugs, Hispanic thugs, you name it, repeatedly in stores in my life or at a gas station. | ||
| Smart office, some old man or some old lady. | ||
| And I probably shouldn't do it. | ||
| And when I know that I have kids, I don't. | ||
| I gotta, you know. | ||
| Something else in the car to defend. | ||
| And I'll just say, hey, listen, start a fight with somebody you think you can. | ||
| They'll start bowing up. | ||
| I'll go, line up. | ||
| I'm going to beat your ass right now, you sons of bitches. | ||
| And I'm sorry to have to talk like that, but that's true. | ||
| And you know what it is? | ||
| I know at those points I could wipe the floor with all those people. | ||
| And it's not because I'm the toughest guy around. | ||
| It's instinctive that I don't like punks and thugs running wild and running roughshod on people. | ||
| That's a normal male response. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| You want to shoot your mouth off to an old lady? | ||
| Why don't you say it to me? | ||
| You punk. | ||
| And I don't like seeing cops that act like gang members either. | ||
| And that's what we have a problem with is men that didn't have fathers around who think acting like a thug and following what gangsters taught them is what's tough. | ||
| That's not tough. | ||
| That's not manly. | ||
| That's cowardly. | ||
| That's weak. | ||
| That's pathetic. | ||
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A man will stand up to the three gang members. | |
| Knowing full well you can get stabbed to death and tell them I'll stomp your brains in. | ||
| And let me tell you, I've done it too. | ||
| You shouldn't admit that. | ||
| And I'm not up here talking about how tough I am either. | ||
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Yes, you are. | |
| There comes a point when you've got to stand up against scum. | ||
| There comes a point when it doesn't matter what happens that you've got to stand up or you're no longer a human. | ||
| And we reached that point a long time ago. | ||
| So I don't give a you-know-what about the New World Order or what they do to me or anybody else. | ||
| I've put my whole thing on the line, my family, my treasure, my name, all of it on the line, 100%. | ||
| And when they bury me six feet under, you can know for sure I'll never compromise, I'll never sell out, I'll never submit, I'll never back down, because it's not in me to do it. | ||
| Very ironic, considering how much of a cheerleader for Trump he's going to become, you know? | ||
| I mean, like... | ||
| He conceptualizes... | ||
| Even more ironic considering he's had to back down from multiple stories. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, the idea that everything is about the globalists and the New World Order allows him to be like, I'm not selling out to Trump. | ||
| He's just, you know, he's gonna take out my guys. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| So it's a cowardly... | ||
| Brain Force does not sound like a fun drug. | ||
| No. | ||
| It sounds like a bummer. | ||
| Like, this is crazy. | ||
| Yeah, that is not a good high. | ||
| He's not done yet. | ||
| And the reason we're in the position we are today is because other people don't have that attitude. | ||
| Anyways. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| This sheriff is either stupid or he is a globalist, federal, wannabe gangster. | ||
| And he makes me want to throw up that he's so dishonorable. | ||
| And I'm going to go to Spokane. | ||
| And he needs to man up and talk to me. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Instead of sitting there talking trash about his constituents, they need to vote this guy out. | ||
| Ew. | ||
| Gross. | ||
| Alright, I'm going to stop right there. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| I get mad sometimes and I try not to. | ||
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Do ya? | |
| Wait for it. | ||
| We're in an info war, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| I've only plugged once an hour. | ||
| It's how we fund the operation. | ||
| I want to hire more reporters. | ||
| I want to be able to send reporters around the country. | ||
| I want to be able to sustain what we're doing and grow to the next level. | ||
| All right. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But even though he had to find something to do, and it's like, oh, I might as well plug. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can see that the... | ||
| Brain Force is a rollercoaster. | ||
| Because he's furious and then just the lull. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Just deflated after screaming. | ||
| Yeah, that's weird. | ||
| I mean, obviously it's a combination of Brain Force and his own... | ||
| Lunacy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So after this, he ends the show. | ||
| The show ends on August 14th. | ||
| But he does overdrive. | ||
| Which means that it's not on the regular radio. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's just on some stations that decide to cover it and on the internet. | ||
| It's on Infowars.com. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And? | ||
| Still on the Brain Force. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| And it's peaking. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And I think he is pretty glad that this isn't on the radio once it starts. | ||
| I'm going to play you exactly where Overdrive starts, and it will take up probably the next hour of our lives. | ||
| Because he gets a caller that is the most problematic thing I think I've ever heard on his show. | ||
|
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Oh, wow. | |
| And we're just going to go with it. | ||
| Here we are. | ||
| Frank in North Carolina, thank you for calling. | ||
| Thank you for holding. | ||
| You're on the air, Frank. | ||
| Welcome. | ||
|
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Yeah, thanks for taking my call, Alex. | |
| Yeah, I'm angry, too, and I hope you'll give me a moment. | ||
| I've been on hold for almost an hour listening to you talk about it all. | ||
| You're going to beat everybody up. | ||
| I know, I know, I know. | ||
| You can stomp my ass in the ground. | ||
| I was talking about standing up against little gang members, picking on old ladies. | ||
| Okay, go ahead. | ||
| Make your point. | ||
|
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Well, I heard you making some disparaging remarks the other day and burying that he was one of the most disgusting people out there today. | |
| Who? | ||
| Who did you hear me talking about? | ||
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I'm going to lay out a little bit where I'm coming from. | |
| All this diversity stuff, you know, the whole system is lined up against white, straight, traditional society. | ||
| I mean, obviously, that sheriff or that cop, you answered the question yourself, what's behind it? | ||
| He wants to be on what he perceives is the winning team. | ||
| Just like all these evangelical preachers, the Vatican, the Catholic Church, they all want to be on the winning team. | ||
| We all know... | ||
| I agree. | ||
| It shows they're trying their takeover right now, and I'm doing 30 minutes overdrive, so you've got plenty of time. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| So, Alex Jones gets a white supremacist caller. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| This guy is clearly on the white genocide tip. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Which Alex is subconsciously, or very much so. | ||
| And it's interesting to see how he responds to this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I can't wait. | ||
| I can't wait to talk to you, white nationalist. | ||
| Well, I mean, he does say, we're in overdrive, we've got plenty of time. | ||
| Take as long as you want. | ||
| Now, I think, before we get into this, because it's rough, What I think, Alex Jones thinks that his response to this out-and-out white supremacist, and I'm saying that knowing what he's going to say, I'm not misaligning this caller. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The way that Alex responds, he thinks that he's repudiating white supremacy. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| But he's not. | ||
| He's muddying the waters, and his response to this caller is, Weird, and because he's on this brain force, he mixes up a whole lot of other issues into it, and it's, like I said, problematically super fucked up. | ||
| So you're probably wondering, though, who is that caller talking about? | ||
| Frank in North Carolina. | ||
| Frank, who are you talking about, Frank? | ||
| Who's he talking about? | ||
| Let's find out. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| You know, I think he's among the most eloquent voices of reason out there today. | ||
| Who, Bernie Sanders? | ||
|
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For the white race? | |
| He's advocating not just for the white race but for humanity and for Western civilization. | ||
| I'm talking about Dr. David Duke. | ||
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What is the major bone of contention with Dr. David Duke's work? | |
| Well, I'll be honest with you. | ||
| I haven't followed much of what David Duke has done. | ||
| Much like Trump. | ||
| I do think that he is an eloquent speaker from the speeches I've seen him give. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| I do not like organizations that sneak around in secret eugenics programs like the real Klan did. | ||
| And then they run all this race war garbage to dominate and control society. | ||
| But I'm not putting that on him, even though I know he was a grand dragon. | ||
| I know this. | ||
| I've been sent multiple clips with David Duke saying, I basically am a fraud or cover-up for Israel and all this bull. | ||
| I have nothing to do with Israel. | ||
| I just don't obsess over it. | ||
| And if I fall down on a banana peel... | ||
| I don't blame Jews for it. | ||
| There are some bad Jews, there are some good Jews. | ||
| There are some bad Germans, there are some good Germans. | ||
| There are some good Chinese, some bad Chinese. | ||
| That's where I stand. | ||
| And the whole race cult group, it's not even so much David Duke, but the white supremacist hordes hate me because they get their Southern Poverty Law Center ADL connection funding and the rest of it. | ||
| They're there to make the liberty movement. | ||
| B, race-centric in the prison complex divide and conquer where everyone is forced into their race group and then we don't have a unifying idea of basic human liberty and freedom. | ||
| So of course there's a war on whites, but there's also a war on blacks and a war on everybody else directed by the same global technocrats. | ||
| So that's where I stand and I don't care what color you are, I don't want you aborted in the womb. | ||
| I don't want to speak for David Duke because I haven't read his books. | ||
| I've seen him in TV debates. | ||
| I've probably heard clips of his radio shows 10, 15 times. | ||
| I've seen maybe 10, 15 of his videos. | ||
| I don't have time to follow it. | ||
| It's usually, hey, look at this clip. | ||
| David Duke's talking trash about you. | ||
| And I barely even listen to it. | ||
| So all I know is that people want to feel like they're better than me because they can say Alex Jones works for the Vatican or he works for Israel, he works for this or that. | ||
| No, I'm a real person with integrity. | ||
| I work. | ||
| So his response to this caller saying, what's your beef with David Duke? | ||
| To be fair, is a direct answer, I believe, in the sense that he's like, I don't know much about him. | ||
| I hate that he talks shit about me. | ||
| Yeah, that's pretty direct. | ||
| But at the same time, his answer about this idea of white genocide is... | ||
| Of course there's a war on whites. | ||
| There's also a war on blacks. | ||
| There's also a war on them. | ||
| It's the globalists. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, you were getting there, buddy. | ||
| Well, his deflection from the very real issues of race and racism... | ||
| Or they're like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| You're missing the forest for the trees. | ||
| It's globalists. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's this made-up boogeyman that I have in my head. | ||
| You guys aren't focusing on that. | ||
| You're stupid. | ||
| And I don't like that you guys are focusing on... | ||
| I don't like that you guys are focusing on this race narrative. | ||
| That's what he's saying. | ||
| Somewhat. | ||
| He's saying that you're, like... | ||
| Somewhat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're part of the globalist plan to distract against... | ||
| What they're doing to us. | ||
| So he's calling David Duke a globalist. | ||
| Or at least an agent of the globalists. | ||
| Somewhat. | ||
| But then the worst part of it, as he goes along, he's like, you guys, I get it. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| You're just not right enough. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, it's everybody. | ||
| It's not just whites. | ||
| But yes, of course there's white genocide. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Which is not good. | ||
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No. | |
| It's not good. | ||
| That's the all lives matter. | ||
| That's him all-lives-mattering white supremacist. | ||
| More or less, yeah. | ||
| But then the other thing is Alex doesn't realize how people hear him. | ||
| He doesn't realize how much white supremacists love him. | ||
| He thinks... | ||
| How can he not? | ||
| Well, there's a small group that are very vocal that do think that he's a Zionist shill. | ||
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Right. | |
| And stuff like that. | ||
| Or that he works for the Vatican, as he says. | ||
| Like, there are people who obviously sound off in his comment sections on his YouTube videos that are like, you dumb Jew, you work for Israel. | ||
| You know, and stuff like that. | ||
| So he interprets these small subsections of the white supremacist... | ||
| being like, all white supremacists hate me. | ||
| Not realizing that the narratives and the way he covers race differently throughout the show, the difference between a white gunman and a black gunman, or the way he's so anti-Islam, those things he doesn't realize are manna from heaven to white supremacy. | ||
| So he doesn't realize that... | ||
| This caller is essentially in his demographic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Squarely in his demographic. | ||
| The caller said he's been listening for an hour. | ||
| And on hold for an hour. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Or on hold for an hour, that's what I meant, yeah. | ||
| The caller isn't saying, Alex, you're wrong, I hate you, you work for Israel. | ||
| No, he's saying, I'm a fan of yours and I don't like you talking shit about David Duke. | ||
| I don't like that you guys can't get along. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because you guys clearly are compatible. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| That's really what he... | ||
| He's like, hey, come on, you like David Duke? | ||
| I've synthesized your philosophies together into my personal philosophy. | ||
| Obviously they're compatible. | ||
| So what's wrong? | ||
| Well, obviously they are compatible. | ||
| And there are, much like the situation with the police in Rockwall, there's two possible situations. | ||
| One is that Alex is totally oblivious of the fact that he is a racist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which I see as very unlikely. | ||
| Ah, man. | ||
| You gotta know you're a racist. | ||
| Well, the idea that he would be so surprised by... | ||
| White supremacists loving him? | ||
| ...is strange. | ||
| Well, but his defense is always going to be that he says, you know, I don't care. | ||
| He says that, so he thinks that's a defense. | ||
| We all bleed red blood. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But you do care. | ||
| Clearly. | ||
| Because of what you say. | ||
| All the other times. | ||
| And the way you cover things. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, all of your actions are racist. | ||
| You don't get to say, you know, his entire life is the, his show should just be called I'm Not a Racist Butt. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know, like that's what he's doing. | ||
| I don't care if you're white or black. | ||
| I'm just saying that black people are more racist. | ||
| I don't care if you're white or black. | ||
| We have racists on both sides. | ||
| There are a lot of violent people on both sides, but black people beat me up more. | ||
| I don't care if you're white or you're black, but I love David Duke. | ||
| And black people scare me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Muslims have little girls allowed to go to pool shops? | ||
| And Starbucks? | ||
| What? | ||
| Freaks me out. | ||
| Freaks me out. | ||
| So, you're fairly right, but let's get through this call, because there's a ways to go. | ||
| He ends up doing 20 minutes with this caller. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Which you would never do with... | ||
| No, that's insane. | ||
| Never do that with someone who's maybe supporting, like... | ||
| Ferguson situation. | ||
| He would get them off the phone in 20 seconds. | ||
| And so I just don't see legitimacy out of the general white supremacist crowd. | ||
| Do I hate them more than I hate the black supremacists? | ||
| No. | ||
| Do I get a lot of their views and understand why they think that? | ||
| I get it. | ||
| But I get why black supremacists operate the way they do. | ||
| It's a paradigm manipulation. | ||
| So that's what it comes down to. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
|
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Yeah, I mean, I hear you talking a lot about, you know, genocide of blacks and everything, and I mean, that's a legitimate point. | |
| Is it? | ||
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But I don't hear you talking a whole lot about the very engineered genocide of the white race. | |
| I mean, diversity, I believe, is really code for anti-white or white genocide. | ||
| And you can go and find... | ||
| You can go find people, very prominent people, even in government, basically advocating... | ||
| I'll tell you what, stay there. | ||
| I gotta go to break. | ||
| Frank, and I'll come back and you can finish up with... | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| There's an attempt to get rid of any individual culture by itself. | ||
| There's a corporate overwrite, a synthetic takeover. | ||
| There is that agenda. | ||
| So you... | ||
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How do you misunderstand it that bad? | |
| You're scared of everything. | ||
| Like, that's... | ||
| Like, how is it that you... | ||
| Like, you being cool with other people's culture is, to you, the government saying, we can't have any cultures! | ||
| Well, I look at it like this. | ||
| So, I come from a white, Caucasian background. | ||
| We like, let's say, hamburgers or whatever, right? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I go through my life a little bit further, and I encounter Hispanic culture. | ||
| I'm like, fucking burritos are way better than hamburgers. | ||
| Now I've invalidated my own white culture. | ||
| Because their culture is superior in terms of burrito versus hamburger. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I go about my life a little bit further, and then I run into stir-fry. | ||
| I run into a Thai cuisine, and I'm like, oh my god, this is better than burritos. | ||
| And eventually it becomes a thing where no one has any culture anymore. | ||
| I think that's as dumb as what he's saying. | ||
| Now, I grant what I was saying was very dumb. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But that actually does make... | ||
| No, it doesn't make sense in the way that... | ||
| You mean it, but as an explanation for how they think, that does make sense. | ||
| Well, at least the first step. | ||
| The first step. | ||
| Well, right. | ||
| The burrito versus hamburger. | ||
| Well, the idea that this one, that one of them has to be better than the other one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, it's not, like, you and I both know, some days I want a burrito. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Some days I want a hamburger. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Both good. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Both good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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So... | |
| If you always live in this, like, the burger has to be the best. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We're a McDonald's country, not a Taco Bell country. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So if the burrito is better, you can't admit that. | ||
| Because that would, as you said, that would invalidate your culture. | ||
| And here's Alex's argument. | ||
| Look, you guys are being distracted by hamburger versus burrito when the reality is there is a bunch of globalist elites who want us all to eat mush. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| That's sort of his... | ||
| That's pretty much that. | ||
| If we want to use the food metaphors, that's what he's getting at. | ||
| I think we should... | ||
| Don't fight hamburger versus burrito, fight against the coming mush. | ||
| Well, that actually kind of makes sense. | ||
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It doesn't. | |
| It doesn't. | ||
| Absolutely doesn't. | ||
| I wish I could find an episode where Alex Jones finds out that when that guy was developing Soylent... | ||
| Like the food replacement? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I wish. | ||
| I would love to hear his take on that. | ||
| I imagine it's... | ||
| Anyway, we got this white supremacist caller and Alex keeps him over a break. | ||
|
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Of course. | |
| He's like, let's get more into this. | ||
| I love talking about... | ||
| Which, to me, that seems kind of a little calculated to me. | ||
| Or at least something that he got. | ||
| Which is that I get to have it both ways. | ||
| I get to let this white supremacist say the stuff that my listeners love to hear. | ||
| And I get to act like I am against it. | ||
| I get to act like I'm not a white supremacist. | ||
| Somewhat, yeah. | ||
| So by showing this version, I look like a hero. | ||
| It does at least sort of provide the idea of I'm ambiguating myself from this. | ||
| There's some of that, but I don't know. | ||
| Like I said, there's a lot of call left. | ||
| So let's dive in. | ||
| Let me have this. | ||
| This one, this clip, I didn't really cut out all that much. | ||
| I cut out a couple things where it got repetitive or what have you. | ||
| Just a couple minutes of the call. | ||
| This one starts with Alex coming back from break. | ||
| He lies about how he calls out all sorts of racism, no matter where it is. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then gets into some false equivalencies. | ||
| When white people organize and persecute black people, we expose it and say it's wrong. | ||
| When people try to set police up, though, for things they haven't done and make them the enemy, period, because they're in blue, that's more tribalism. | ||
| We expose it. | ||
| When cops act like thugs. | ||
| And gangs. | ||
| We expose them. | ||
| So I'm really against tribalism. | ||
| I know humans are so tribal, they use it to control us. | ||
| I want tribalism of private property, of sovereignty, of the power of the family. | ||
| And yes, whites are under attack. | ||
| Yes, they have free slaps for whites at Berkeley. | ||
| Yes, they're telling whites that being white is inherently bad and evil. | ||
| I want to take a break right there to tell you a little bit about my childhood. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I grew up in Hawaii for a little bit when I was a kid. | ||
| And they call white people haoles in Hawaii. | ||
| That's pretty fun. | ||
| Well, it translates to no soul. | ||
| Right. | ||
| White people don't have souls. | ||
| So they're accurate. | ||
| According to... | ||
| So they're just using their words properly. | ||
| There is a fairly rich tradition of distrust of white people in Hawaii. | ||
| And, God, still not enough. | ||
| If only they had gotten it at the beginning! | ||
| The reason for that is overthrowing of their government, taking of their land, and complete destruction of their culture. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There is a reason for that. | ||
| But even despite that, when I was growing up, a lot of my friends were Hawaiians. | ||
| They were natives. | ||
| There were a lot of Polynesians who were my friends growing up. | ||
| There wasn't racism against me as a white person, although the calling people Haoles was intrinsically racist. | ||
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Right. | |
| So, what I'm trying to get at is, if I wanted to, I could get up on a soapbox and talk about how racist everyone was to me as a kid. | ||
| I could do that. | ||
| I could say, everyone called me a no-soul-haven white guy, or all of this. | ||
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Right, I can see that. | |
| You could do that. | ||
| In the same way that Alex tries to get all kinds of white victimhood narratives out of nothing. | ||
| He's trying to get blood out of a stone. | ||
| I could do that same thing if I wanted to. | ||
| With my childhood in Hawaii. | ||
| But the reality of it is, I did get beat up once, but I had it coming. | ||
| I was being a dickhead to somebody. | ||
| And I could frame it as, this big-ass Polynesian dude hated me because I was white. | ||
| The reality is, I was a smart-ass kid and I was making fun of him. | ||
| And I shouldn't have been. | ||
| He was way bigger than me. | ||
| It beat my ass. | ||
| That happened. | ||
| I could reframe it if I wanted to. | ||
| I could leave out those details that no one would be able to find. | ||
| No one except maybe my brother. | ||
| He might be aware of it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it's silly. | ||
| It's pointless. | ||
| And I don't think that... | ||
| I mean, I don't think that Texas could possibly be a more anti-white environment than Hawaii. | ||
| Like, Hawaii has... | ||
| Hawaii has a very... | ||
| I can't think of anywhere that's more pro-white than maybe Frank in North Carolina. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Drankin, North Carolina's house is a very pro-white space. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But what I'm saying is that I think that Hawaii has a cultural reason to be against white people. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's very simple, the cultural reason to be against white people. | ||
| You're there. | ||
| Do you know how you got there? | ||
| Not good. | ||
| You stole it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You stole shit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, you should... | ||
| At no point in history should anybody trust white people. | ||
| No. | ||
| Like, the biggest change in history would be if you just sent one guy back every time to be like, hey, don't say hi to the white people. | ||
| Or let's deal with this differently. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Don't invite them in. | ||
| Don't invite them in. | ||
| Kill them. | ||
| Inviting people in is fine, but like... | ||
| Not if they're white. | ||
| No, I don't agree with that. | ||
| I think that there's a way to go back in time. | ||
| There's not. | ||
| No. | ||
| If there was a way to go back in time, I think there's a way to still allow people in and be like, don't trust their intentions. | ||
| Like, be more hardline negotiators about stuff. | ||
| Because these fucks do not have souls. | ||
| Don't give the benefit of the doubt. | ||
| But I don't know if it's necessary for me to make this... | ||
| I get what you're saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But here's the thing that I... | ||
| The first thing that he said... | ||
| In this clip is like, when white people are racist and do all this shit, we call it out. | ||
| Then the next thing he says, but if they're being set up, we're going to call that out too. | ||
| By globalists. | ||
| Which is basically him saying, when white people are racist, we will condemn it. | ||
| But every time we've seen white people be racist, it's a false flag. | ||
| White people are never actually racist. | ||
| They're set up to be racist. | ||
| Right, and that's the distinction between Frank's really dumb white supremacy and Alex's cloaked white supremacy under the guise of globalists. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like I said, I can't, for the life of me, because I've never spoken to him, I don't really know if it's intentional or not. | ||
| Like, I don't know if Alex really deeply has white supremacist beliefs or if it's just a byproduct. | ||
| Mixed with underlying racism that is kind of subconscious. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know, and I don't think we can know, but this phone call is really fucked up. | ||
| All of this is going on. | ||
| All of this is unfolding and happening. | ||
| But then separately, there are government programs to basically pigeonhole and attack and go after black people, Hispanics, you name it. | ||
| I mean, look at Gardasil. | ||
| Which is known to cause reproductive problems and all sorts of other major, major issues. | ||
| That's being targeted against basically, what is it, three or four Latin American countries. | ||
| Mexico is chief amongst it. | ||
| And you don't hear Mecha La Raza. | ||
| Mecha means, well, I mean, their slogan is for everything, for everybody in the race, everything, for those outside the race, nothing. | ||
| When you look at what La Raza means, it means the race. | ||
| And it's just like a Ku Klux Klan organization. | ||
| So why is it bad for there to be a Ku Klux Klan for white people, but then it's okay for the Hispanics? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's all manipulative. | ||
| It's all bad. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| And you're lying. | ||
| What is the reality behind... | ||
| Well, La Raza translates to the people. | ||
| It doesn't translate to the race. | ||
| That is a right-wing, bigoted... | ||
| It's a false cognate. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| So the idea that it is a race-based organization is silly. | ||
| It's mostly cultural-based issues. | ||
| La Raza is itself just an advocacy group for Hispanics. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's a group that seeks to equalize healthcare, education, those sorts of things. | ||
| Oh, so... | ||
| It's an advocacy group. | ||
| So good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they seek to do good, which means they have to be destroyed. | ||
| In the same way that the NAACP will step in for civil rights complaints that are racially based against black people, La Raza is there in terms of Hispanic folk. | ||
| Now, Mecha is a youth organization. | ||
| It's a college organization that started back in the 60s. | ||
| It has a little bit more of a revolutionary bent to it. | ||
| But it's not at all like the Klan. | ||
| They do have a phrase that is sort of a catchphrase. | ||
| I'm not sure if it's their official slogan or anything, but it's por la raza toto, fuera de la raza nada, which means for the people everything, for those against the people nothing. | ||
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Right. | |
| It is a take on the phrase that was popular during the Cuban Revolution, which was Por la revolución todo, fuera de la revolución nada. | ||
| For it, good. | ||
| Against it, bad. | ||
| Essentially. | ||
| And his false equivalence of talking about how it's like the KKK is stupid, because even Mecha, which does have a little bit more of a problematic history, because... | ||
| It's mostly made up of college students and sometimes they do dumb fucking things. | ||
| So there is a little bit worse of a history to that, but not on the scale of KKK stuff. | ||
| They just have maybe said some bad stuff about Jews. | ||
| In the past. | ||
| Oh, well they shouldn't do that. | ||
| No. | ||
| But I really like their restraint in their not murdering and killing a bunch of black people for a hundred years. | ||
| Not targeting people based on their race. | ||
| I'm a huge fan of the... | ||
| Not violently targeting. | ||
| Didn't murder a bunch of people for no other reason. | ||
| And La Rasa is itself, like I said, an advocacy organization. | ||
| It is not... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Against anybody as much as it is trying to help people who are disenfranchised. | ||
| That's saying that NAACP is the black Ku Klux Klan. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I think that there might... | ||
| This might be me giving Alex too much credit, but there are street gangs that are called something La Raza. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And if he's trying to make that false equivalence, that's even worse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the reality is to... | ||
| It's so much more of a complicated conversation to have about the reason why organizations like the NAACP and La Raza need to exist. | ||
| Have to exist. | ||
| And it's partly because of the fucking Ku Klux Klan! | ||
| Yeah, and something like a white version of that doesn't really need to exist. | ||
| Because we've got the Ku Klux Klan! | ||
| And a lot of our interests... | ||
| We don't. | ||
| Well, like, white interests are protected by default in society. | ||
| That is the standard of everything. | ||
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Right. | |
| And the reason why these groups need to exist is sometimes the priorities of white people that just automatically get fulfilled step on the toes of these other culturally disenfranchised groups. | ||
| Man, step on the toes is a really light way of putting it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I would go with step on the throats. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| That is definitely more fair. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So the idea that Alex pretends that the sort of cultural matrix of power doesn't exist... | ||
| Is absolutely insane. | ||
| It's that dumb like, oh, well, why don't we have a white history month? | ||
| Because all of the months. | ||
| So just shut up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| How mad would people be if we had a white history month? | ||
| No one would care. | ||
| No one would care. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Stop it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex wants to make another, he has a dumb metaphor to explain, like his idea about the divide and conquer strategy that the globalists are using against us by race. | ||
| He has a way to sort of explain it, and it's dumb. | ||
| Because if you look at how a prison's run in Divide and Conquer, they organize it around race, black gangs, white gangs, Hispanic gangs, Asian gangs, and then it's controlled by the warden that way. | ||
| And the central banks do have the Rothschilds who are Jewish. | ||
| There's a lot of that influence in there. | ||
| But then they're also funding eugenics and the Nazi movement. | ||
| So I'm going to try to get David Duke on. | ||
| I've actually thought about this for a long time. | ||
| I was a guest on a radio show one time where they surprised me and had him on like in 1997 or something. | ||
| He probably never knows. | ||
| He's been on the air with me. | ||
| And I know he's talked about me repeatedly because I've been sent the clips. | ||
| I'm going to invite David Duke on for a full hour discussion. | ||
| I was just thinking about that a few weeks ago. | ||
| And have a serious discussion about world events and how does he square eugenics? | ||
| And all these covert programs that are going on targeting everybody if it's just a conspiracy against white people. | ||
| What I'm saying is they put the fluoride in everybody's water. | ||
| They push the Gardasil on black, white, old, young, they don't care. | ||
| I want to take a break there. | ||
| I think they should care who they're pushing the Gardasil on, because that really is... | ||
| And no one's giving it to the elderly. | ||
| Yeah, they don't really need it. | ||
| No. | ||
| I looked into the statistics about... | ||
| They're just wasting Gardasil. | ||
| I was looking at the statistics about the incidence of side effects from Gardasil, and there is a database of negative reactions that people have had to Gardasil. | ||
| Is it like everybody gets one? | ||
| Do you get to pick one? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Well, Gardasil is murdering people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So there's a 100% murder rate. | ||
| Right. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| You get all of them every time? | ||
| In the database, they have had researchers who've gone in and investigated the claims of these incidents of... | ||
| You know, you just get rid of fever. | ||
| And stuff like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the incidents of fevers, headaches, stuff like that is in the 1 to 9 to 1 to 100 landscape. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| You get to serious side effects. | ||
| And people went through, poured over 20,000 incidents of negative side effects of people who got these vaccines. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the conclusion that they drew is that of all the stuff that they could analyze, there is nothing that suggests that there's causation from the Gardasil vaccine at all. | ||
| The numbers were statistically uninteresting when compared to the just population at large. | ||
| The deaths that have happened because of Gardasil are not things that could be attributed to Gardasil. | ||
| The side effects are... | ||
| It's correlation causation. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The side effects that are very serious are things that, like I said, are just... | ||
| Statistically on par with the population. | ||
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Right. | |
| So they did a little further deep dive into side effects of vaccines. | ||
| And one thing that was really interesting that this guy found was that if you take these five specific vaccines, there's like the flu vaccine and I can't remember what the other ones were. | ||
| But if you look at them and you look at the incidents reported of cervical dysplasia. | ||
| You look at it, and one of them, the people who have had the vaccine, two people had cervical dysplasia. | ||
| Three of them, zero. | ||
| One of them had one. | ||
| Those numbers are substantially lower than the main population as a whole. | ||
| So maybe they also cure... | ||
| Well, you can't make that claim either. | ||
| Of course not, because that's dumb. | ||
| It's correlation, not causation. | ||
| But that's super interesting statistically. | ||
| And saying that the flu vaccine cures cervical dysplasia has the same amount of scientific credibility that Alex has. | ||
| As saying that it causes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the idea that, like, first of all, fluoride isn't nearly as negative as Alex paints it out to be. | ||
| I don't think it's great to put anything in the water. | ||
| But it's not some sort of brain chemical that's going to destroy us and dumb us down. | ||
| That part is a huge myth. | ||
| And then further, his other example, that they're forcing Gardasil on people and no one's mad about it. | ||
| Tens of thousands of women die every year globally because of cervical cancer. | ||
| If you look at the statistical rates of negative side effects, of alleged deaths caused by it, which there aren't any, at least, well, there may be a few, but... | ||
| Not a negligible number. | ||
| It's medical science. | ||
| Somebody's going to die. | ||
| Yeah, but compared to the tens of thousands of women who die every year because of cervical cancer, not to mention anal cancers, not to mention there's like four or five other cancers it takes care of. | ||
| That's all associated with HPV? | ||
| Yeah, HPV causes a bunch of cancers and you can just get rid of it. | ||
| It's insane that he's against it and thinks it's some sort of a scam. | ||
| Anyway, let's get through this. | ||
| It's again, it's because it's for women. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he also knows that 80% of his listeners are dudes. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Oh, the other thing I wanted to point out about that clip was his premise of prisons are run by separating people by race is very flawed. | ||
| He said wardens control the gangs, right? | ||
| He said that the wardens play them off against each other by separating them into gangs based on race. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And if you've ever watched any documentaries about prison... | ||
| No one's doing that to them. | ||
| Everyone does that to themselves. | ||
| People separate based on race in prisons because it's a desperate situation and there are a lot of criminals in there. | ||
| There's a lot of exploiters in there. | ||
| There's a lot of people who have created a system wherein, if you're weak, they will rape you. | ||
| If you're weak, they will take all of your food. | ||
| If you're weak, they will get you to have your parents send money and then steal it from you. | ||
| There's so much methods of exploitation that people use in prison, not to mention murder. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the thing is, the system that inmates have been able to figure out, which is definitely flawed, is break off into racial gangs and protect each other. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, a big part of that might be that a lot of these criminals were racists before they went in. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| A lot of them were parts of gangs on the outside. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that translates to the inside. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not the warden, who is the facsimile of the globalists in this metaphor, being like, all right, I'm going to get them to fight, and then we'll have total control over the prison. | ||
| Because you don't have total control over the prison. | ||
| And in fact, with those gangs, you have far less control over the prison. | ||
| You have constant riots. | ||
| Yeah, it's a constant fight. | ||
| People making shanks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And stuff like that. | ||
| It's so stupid. | ||
| His metaphor doesn't work. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| It's a dumb metaphor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this next clip, Alex, gets a little bit weird about people thinking he's Jewish. | ||
| There's something bigger here. | ||
| It's much worse. | ||
| And it's limited. | ||
| And so that's what I'm saying. | ||
| That's what I'm getting at. | ||
| I mean, is there Jewish supremacy? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Is there Jewish mafia? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| But does it mean it runs everything and it's the source of all evil? | ||
| It's like Italian mafia. | ||
| I'm against the Jewish mafia, but I don't hate individual Jews themselves who are very diverse people. | ||
| It's more complex than that. | ||
| I mean, are there race laws in Israel where if someone comes to the country to work and they date a Jew, you can be arrested? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Is that apartheid? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Why does Israel promote racial stuff over here but that doesn't live by it there? | ||
| I get all that. | ||
| I call Israel out on that. | ||
| Some of the Israel lobby promotes gun control here, but what's guns over there? | ||
| Do the white supremacists or the white separatists or whoever they are ever say, oh, he told the truth? | ||
| No, they lie about me and say I get orders from Israel. | ||
| His complaints really seem to be mostly about him. | ||
| The problem with the KKK is sometimes they're mad at me. | ||
| They lie about me. | ||
| Yeah, I don't like that. | ||
| Everything else they do, I'm fine with. | ||
| And then we'll find some legal office where I filed a corporation once. | ||
| And out of a huge law firm of 40-something lawyers, once they did a liquor license in Texas for Seagram's to sell alcohol. | ||
| And so I must work for the Brothman's because a lawyer at a firm had done a liquor license for liquor stores. | ||
| What the? | ||
| I mean, it's that type of, where people think they're scoring points. | ||
| Proving something that isn't there. | ||
| Is Frank still on the line? | ||
| So, the whole anti-Catholic crowd discredits legitimate criticism of the Catholic Church by lying. | ||
| The whole white supremacist crowd discredits yourselves by the incessant lying. | ||
| The incessant making stuff up. | ||
| The incessant, this person's a Jew. | ||
| That person's a Jew. | ||
| Everyone's a Jew. | ||
| I'm a Jew. | ||
| No, I'm not a Jew. | ||
| I don't like the way you say Jew. | ||
| I mean, I look like everybody you see from Wales. | ||
| I've been to Wales, like a bunch of Alex Joneses are walking around. | ||
| The point is, I wouldn't be ashamed if I'm Jewish. | ||
| You think you gained some point on me by saying, fine, I am Jewish, 100%. | ||
| I'm Ashkenazi from Russia. | ||
| Okay, it's not true, but believe it. | ||
| You're a better man than me now. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| You can kick my butt, right? | ||
| Could you build a media empire by yourself? | ||
| Could you do everything I did? | ||
| You're better than me. | ||
| I know you said you were, because you said I was a Jew. | ||
| That made you bigger. | ||
| That made you a man. | ||
| That made you tough. | ||
| The difference is the stuff I say is true. | ||
| I did do the things I said I did. | ||
| So this is brain force. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That is fucked up. | ||
| I've listened to that like three times, and I've really tried to parse exactly what he's saying. | ||
| About being called a Jew? | ||
| And I can't put a nail in it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I have no idea what he's saying. | ||
| I don't know what he's going for. | ||
| I don't know what he's mad about. | ||
| I think... | ||
| Well, I know what he's mad about. | ||
| He's mad about people saying that he works for Israel and he's a Zionist shill. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they're lying because he's not. | ||
| Frank didn't say that. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's responding to... | ||
| Criticism of David Duke. | ||
| Well, and... | ||
| You know, things that people put on his message boards. | ||
| You know, comments that he gets that he... | ||
| No, I mean Frank. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Frank is calling to talk about how Alex was mischaracterizing David Duke. | ||
| And the two of them seem to have some beef. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| So, of course, Alex gets mad that some people in the white supremacist movement called him a Jew. | ||
| Now... | ||
| That makes perfect sense. | ||
| Consider that Brain Force is sold as a focus and attention supplement. | ||
| This is a commercial against Brain Force. | ||
| But also, I don't like... | ||
| You were saying that you don't like how he says Jew, and I agree. | ||
| I do not like it. | ||
| That's a hard J. It is not a good way to put it. | ||
| But then also, the thing is... | ||
| No matter what he's saying about people trying to score points on him by accusing him of being Jewish, he's still playing into the game of being called a Jew is negative. | ||
| That's true! | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| That is exactly, like, I didn't see that because I assumed that, like, it's so ridiculous to think that being called a Jew would matter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So, of course, that doesn't even cross my brain. | ||
| In his world, though, that is an insult. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They are trying to smear him. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| By calling him a Jew. | ||
| It's very, very weird. | ||
| And not because they're racist, but because... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| The call is not done. | ||
| Don't go to Wales. | ||
| No. | ||
| Don't go to Wales. | ||
| So the call's not done, and he's going to get back to Frank. | ||
| Frank's going to get back on the line. | ||
| And when he does... | ||
| He decides to hip Alex up on a little bit of new lingo that's going on. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And this is the beginning. | ||
| Hey, Alex, you ever hear about this N-word? | ||
| It's the beginning of some of the seeds of the alt-right rise that we have seen. | ||
| So I just find the black races, the Mexican races, the white races, it's all about how somebody stole something from them so they can feel like they're better than everybody else and say everybody else is a crook. | ||
| Well, I'm not a crook, to quote Nixon. | ||
| Two things. | ||
| Don't quote Nixon. | ||
| Nixon was a crook. | ||
| Don't quote Nixon in that context. | ||
| He was lying. | ||
| To quote a lie, I'm lying. | ||
| But then also, that's 100% true. | ||
| But then the other thing is, he's like these black racists, these Hispanic racists, white racists, all think that something's been stolen from them. | ||
| Your whole body of products that you sell is based on the globalists stealing your vitality. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| You are the worst in terms of this. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The problem is, it's race. | ||
| It's not globalists. | ||
| The globalists have taken our sovereignty. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They've taken our vitality through the water and shit. | ||
| They're destroying the free market. | ||
| They're taking it away from us. | ||
| But that being his angle of attack is incredibly silly. | ||
| Like, that's his complaint about racists. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| So, there's my rant on that subject, Frank. | ||
| Frank. | ||
| And I've actually been thinking about getting David Duke on the show. | ||
| I think it would make for good radio. | ||
| He's better than you, Frank. | ||
| And maybe I could get some of the KKK people to ask themselves a couple questions. | ||
| Why does the left worship the KKK's icon, Margaret Sanger? | ||
| Because she wasn't that. | ||
| Because there's a level above it. | ||
| That would be an interesting question to ask the KKK, though. | ||
| And I know everybody wants to stay at the level they're at, but I'm here to actually get people to think and come together. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Does that mean you should have your culture overwritten and be forced to do it? | ||
| No. | ||
| Does that mean I'm mad at black separatists or white separatists wanting to have their own lives? | ||
| No. | ||
| That's your right. | ||
| I understand your view. | ||
| I respect it. | ||
| But the globalists want us at each other's throats and we don't need that. | ||
| I'm going to skip this network break. | ||
| I want to get to all the other callers. | ||
| But Frank, you've got about two or three minutes. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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Yeah, thanks. | |
| I think that's a really good idea to have David Duke on. | ||
| I think it would make for great radio, if nothing else. | ||
| I don't think he's a white supremacist. | ||
| He was just a grand dragon. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Grand dragons are not white supremacists. | ||
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What was that, 40 years ago? | |
| 40 years ago or something? | ||
| That's a long time ago. | ||
| You know, I think there's a lot of people out there that probably aren't proud of things they did 30, 40 years ago. | ||
| Or maybe have had a change of order. | ||
| Hey, hey, hey! | ||
| Listen, being a Grand Dragon is the same thing as being a La Raza chapter leader. | ||
| I'm not judging him for it. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
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My point of view, though, I've got to go with the hand that I've been dealt. | |
| And I think white men need to stand up for themselves and stop being cucks. | ||
| You know, I'm sure you're familiar with this new term, cuck conservative. | ||
| Because we are under attack from every freaking direction, even traitors. | ||
| I would consider them traitors in our own race. | ||
| And I think white men are going to have to stand up for themselves. | ||
| That's just a reality. | ||
| It's just a reality. | ||
| White men are going to have to stand up for themselves. | ||
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Cuck. | |
| Yeah, this is dark. | ||
| This is dark shit. | ||
| And Alex is not repudiating really any of the things he says. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He's agreeing with everything other than the... | ||
| You're missing the forest for the trees. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like, yeah, all that's true, but globalists. | ||
| No, white men do need to stand up for themselves, but against the globalists. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| God, if you say race traitor, I hate you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I hate you. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I hate you so much. | ||
| It's a real bad term. | ||
| Because that, again, that implies that race is a team. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| No, it doesn't imply that. | ||
| No, well, yeah, you're right. | ||
| That's pretty explicit. | ||
| It says it's a team. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It says white people are all in this together. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Instead of people. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Or even... | ||
| Countries. | ||
| Anything. | ||
| Yeah, any other grouping of people. | ||
| White people. | ||
| Race. | ||
| Because I was born with this skin color means that I have to follow along with... | ||
| And it's the best skin color. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How arbitrary is that for bigotry? | ||
| I mean, it's silly to take a step back and look at it. | ||
| Racism is so fucking stupid. | ||
| It's mind-boggling to really get into your head and just think, you know what? | ||
| I bet it's skin color. | ||
| I bet that's what does it. | ||
| Well, the problem with modern-day racism is that there is such a deep history of debunked scientific theories around race. | ||
| That a lot of people who aren't very smart might have some beliefs that date back to phrenology and shit like that. | ||
| And they think that it's really smart versions of like, no, no, black IQs are way lower and stuff like that. | ||
| They have smaller brains. | ||
| Shit like that. | ||
| It's like if somebody says the words... | ||
| The problem is we've gone too far from people just dealing with the reality that it is, oh, this is based on aesthetics. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You hate people who look different. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just say that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| You're a tribal fuck. | ||
| I mean, it's horrific, but at least that's better than you being like, no, you see, it's fast twitch muscle fiber. | ||
| That's why black people are better at basketball. | ||
| It's like, no, fuck you. | ||
| You're an idiot. | ||
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Yeesh. | |
| Yeesh. | ||
| So we have one more clip in this call, and then we'll move on to greener pastures for a minute. | ||
| But here we go. | ||
| And all I know is the whole white supremacist crowd just says the same stuff over and over again. | ||
| And I get at a certain paradigm level from their perspective. | ||
| I understand what they're saying. | ||
| It's just that I'm not a traitor to life. | ||
| And the globalists have a master plan to divide and conquer and control us. | ||
| And I think somebody should expose the master plan. | ||
| Does it mean that if you grow up and you get attacked as a white person and told you're bad and physically attacked because you're white, does it mean at some primitive, instinctive level you don't want to go join other white people that have been abused and get it? | ||
| Black people do the same thing. | ||
| The rhetoric is so close to each other, it's ridiculous. | ||
| Meanwhile, the eugenicists have a plan to bring all of our communities down. | ||
| They are the enemy. | ||
| And I want to hear from somebody like David Duke, who's so close ideologically to the left when it comes to things like Planned Parenthood. | ||
| I mean, I want to have a real discussion with Dr. Duke about all of that. | ||
| I appreciate your call. | ||
| I appreciate your call. | ||
| And by the way, when I get up here and talk about beating up drag rats or something, it's not me thumping my chest acting tough. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It is an explosion from being on air for three hours, frustrated by all this. | ||
| Frustrated. | ||
| So, the call is over, but Alex is not done. | ||
| I could never have guessed that. | ||
| The next clip here is his aftermath from this call, and he thinks that he's above racism. | ||
| And I don't really know what his point is in this, but it doesn't sound good. | ||
| You know, so many white supremacists are like, we need to keep abortion around to get rid of black people, and you write that in comments on Infowars and all the rest of it. | ||
| Would you really take a one-year-old black baby and beat its brains out? | ||
| I mean, because that's what we're talking about here. | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, you're just like Khalid Muhammad. | ||
| How do you hate Khalid Muhammad saying, kill all the white babies, but then you want to kill the black babies? | ||
| And I'm not saying you, Frank, but... | ||
| I just, I just, my gut, my soul recoils from that. | ||
| I don't need to read it in a book or know it, intellectually, even though I do, to know that's not good. | ||
| I'm not going to get ahead posing as a liberal and making sure Planned Parenthood gets built in a black neighborhood when I go around and basically talk about how much I hate black people at night while I live off the government. | ||
| And I have seen all these liberal white racists. | ||
| I've seen how they live. | ||
| I see how they operate. | ||
| They're snakes. | ||
| And the black leaders they bought off are even worse. | ||
| They hate black people. | ||
| And I will not sit here and kick people around and feel good about myself sitting there stomping on members of the human family. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| And yes, they are winding up the black people. | ||
| On average, to act like complete idiots. | ||
| But so does the rest of the public. | ||
| And if you're being approached by five racist black thugs who want to physically attack you, they come after you, pull your gun out and shoot them. | ||
| Same thing if the Klan tries to come kill some black family. | ||
| That's why I'm all about guns. | ||
| Let me tell you, it's scary. | ||
| Bunch of big black guys looking at you like they want to kill you because you're white and wanting to rob you and hating your guts. | ||
| But I'd imagine it's a scary back when that would happen to black people. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You mean yesterday? | ||
| With the hands of a bunch of white people. | ||
| The day before that? | ||
| Tomorrow? | ||
| All the days? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All the fucking days? | ||
| That back when is so offensive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Because that suggests... | ||
| That says... | ||
| It doesn't happen now. | ||
| No. | ||
| It doesn't happen. | ||
| It's gone the other direction. | ||
| That says that now black people are oppressing white people. | ||
| Well, but if he wants to just literally talk about black folk, we just had the Philando Castillo video come out. | ||
| It's horrifying. | ||
| I don't need to read a book to know that that shit's fucking murder. | ||
| It's murder. | ||
| I mean, if you look at just, if you want to extrapolate further, because I know that he doesn't like Muslims either, there was that young girl who got kidnapped outside a mosque and beaten to death. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Just recently, just like last week or so. | |
| They're saying it's not a hate crime. | ||
| It was a road rage incident, which is great. | ||
| Sure. | ||
|
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A road rage incident wherein you killed a 14-year-old Muslim girl? | |
| Yeah. | ||
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What kind of road rage would wind up with you beating a 14-year-old girl I don't know. | |
| What kind of a fucking monster? | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| There was also a mosque that was just burned down the other day. | ||
| I mean, not the other day. | ||
| It was like a little while back, but the guy just got charged with it. | ||
| He and some buddies went in and wanted to find out if the mosque was heavily armed. | ||
| So they snuck in after hours to try and find guns in the mosque. | ||
| Because they were convinced that all mosques, obviously, are military centers and what have you. | ||
| Radicalizing. | ||
| And then they burned it down in an arson. | ||
| The idea that these things are in the past are cockamamie. | ||
| They're nonsense. | ||
| No. | ||
| And Alex, he betrayed his really offensive racistness in that last clip. | ||
| At the beginning, he's like... | ||
| If you're a racist, are you willing to beat a one-year-old black baby to death? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because that's what we're talking about. | ||
| That's not what we're talking about. | ||
| You don't have to do that to be one of the worst racists possible. | ||
| All you have to do is deny that racism exists. | ||
| You have to live your life in such a way as to deny the validity of people who are expressing their reality. | ||
| And just the fucking fetishization of... | ||
| Guns. | ||
| Man, he loves them. | ||
| He loves guns. | ||
| Loves them. | ||
| And again, it's that fantasy. | ||
| It's that white dude fantasy. | ||
| I get to be justified in killing somebody. | ||
| That's what they really want. | ||
| That's the good guy with a gun. | ||
| They really want to be that good guy with a gun. | ||
| They want to kill somebody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what they want. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| That's literally the goal. | ||
| To be fair, that's a fantasy I had sort of when I was like... | ||
| Yeah, but with a sword. | ||
| No, it wasn't even kill. | ||
| It was I wanted to be in a righteous fight. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| I wanted to get into a fight standing up for somebody. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I wanted to be in a place where I could just unload and get violent, but I was doing it because the other person was the villain. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Alex hasn't grown out of that. | ||
| No. | ||
| So we got a little bit left to go here. | ||
| Sorry that call took up a lot of time, but it's important. | ||
| Overdrive isn't done. | ||
| He takes another call from somebody who explains to him Which is nonsense. | ||
| Wait, Alex is or the caller is? | ||
| The caller says that Alex is. | ||
| Oh, well that's going to really help out his fucking Jesus complex. | ||
| He's explained, well you can see him almost like looking like he's going to cry as the caller tells him this. | ||
| And the caller explains that the prophecy is because Alex Jones has sources backing him up and he's not a liar like everyone else. | ||
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Great. | |
| I would ask that guy to look at Alex's sources. | ||
| I would ask that guy to read the Bible. | ||
| I'd ask that guy to get back on his meds. | ||
| But he gets a caller towards the end of his overdrive who asks him about Trump. | ||
| And so here's what Alex has to say about Trump on August 14th in the fourth hour of his three-hour show. | ||
| Paul and then Groovy. | ||
| Paul in New Mexico, you're on the air. | ||
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Yeah, Alex, I'll try to be as quick as I can. | |
| I just wanted to throw out some points. | ||
| You can put a timer on me or whatever, two minutes or whatever, but I'll let you know when I'm done. | ||
| I just wanted to throw out some stuff for you. | ||
| Well, then why put on the fucking timer, dude? | ||
| Giving Trump the benefit of the doubt because I don't feel our country has the time. | ||
| This could be the last election. | ||
| That's like going into a casino. | ||
| I'd rather place my bets on Rand Paul. | ||
| I feel he's like a 2-1 odd versus on the roulette wheel placing my 101 bet on Trump. | ||
| I don't feel Trump has any character. | ||
| Let's just spend our time and money on races that we can win, you know? | ||
| I mean, like you were saying the other time, but I feel Trump's, they say, I think Trump's real popular because he's an outsider. | ||
| That's why people feel he's an outsider. | ||
| He's not a career politician. | ||
| But actually, I feel he's an insider. | ||
| He's actually an insider of the globalists to sabotage all the other candidates. | ||
| Dude, you think you are so smart for figuring that out. | ||
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As far as that goes, I wrote down a bunch of stuff. | |
| I'm a little nervous. | ||
| No, I think you're... | ||
| Listen, you're probably right. | ||
| And when I say benefit of the doubt, it doesn't mean I'm endorsing him. | ||
| I've said Rand Paul. | ||
| It means that we'll see what he ends up doing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Does that make sense? | ||
| He's blackmailable. | ||
| We don't want anybody like that. | ||
| You're telling Alex the things Alex tells you. | ||
| Eloquent points, and I think you're right. | ||
| That if you look at his past and what he's done, you judge a tree by its fruits. | ||
| And he is a casino-owning shark and a big slumlord. | ||
| And you look at how rents are exploding in the New World Order economy. | ||
| The whole thing's not pretty. | ||
| But you have to defend him because what he's now saying is true. | ||
| So in that office of saying things that are true, you've got to say what Trump's saying is true. | ||
| That's why it's catching on. | ||
| The other candidates should be saying it as well, just more smoothly. | ||
| He's dumb. | ||
| Everybody should say the things he's saying, but smarter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But also, I mean, he calls him a slumlord. | ||
| He calls him a shark, a casino-owning shark. | ||
| But you've got those ideas, man, those vaccines. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That bigotry is real good. | ||
| It's good stuff. | ||
| So that's where he leaves off on the 14th. | ||
| We're going to be covering one more day. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And there's not a whole lot to cover. | ||
| Necessarily. | ||
| But the 14th was a Friday. | ||
| And Sunday, August 16th comes around. | ||
| And as I've mentioned in past episodes, my experience is that Sundays are for doing a trial balloon. | ||
| The new narrative. | ||
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See how the new narrative sticks. | |
| And I'll just play you the beginning of August 16th, 2015. | ||
| Well, I'm ready to say it on this Sunday, the 16th day of August 2015 worldwide broadcast. | ||
| I'm ready to say it right now. | ||
| I may have been wrong about Donald Trump because he is doing things right now politically. | ||
| He is engaging in activities that are not what a scripted, controlled candidate would do. | ||
| is causing the Clinton... | ||
| Crime machine, irrevocable harm on an absolutely massive scale. | ||
| Now, I've said I've given him the benefit of the doubt because he's supported both parties in the past and owns casinos and has his own list of problems and has been part of WWE wrestling, but I've got friends that have been part of that. | ||
| And we're right to not just trust people that are long-term politicians like Donald Trump. | ||
| People think he's an outsider. | ||
| He's a consummate insider. | ||
| To a certain point, he's made his money, though, off the service economy and off of real estate and off of products, not off of central banking like the globalists. | ||
| In that statement right there, he contradicted his own knowledge from past episodes that we've seen. | ||
| He has said before he's a front man for consortiums. | ||
| And he doesn't make his money off of service stuff. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He doesn't make his money off the free market. | ||
|
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Nope. | |
| He's part of the mob. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Alex is making his pivot. | ||
| This is the turn right here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So now he's... | ||
| Are we saying... | ||
| Is he full-throated? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| But this is the turning point. | ||
| What happened on the 16th? | ||
| This is the trial balloon. | ||
| He's going to get to it a little bit in the next couple clips. | ||
| Or what happened in the... | ||
| Earlier a couple of days, I would guess. | ||
| Let's get through the clips, because it'll sort of come out, and then I'll give you my synthesis. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But here's the next one where he talks about how right he is all the time. | ||
| I'm going to say it right here on air. | ||
| I am rarely wrong in a big way. | ||
| Very rarely. | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| But sometimes I am. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| I mean, I get dates wrong and sometimes say, I guess, a name wrong. | ||
| Yeah, that's what we're all mad about. | ||
| We all do that in a busy world. | ||
| I'm teleprompter free. | ||
| You can write news articles and you're going to have typos and problems sometimes. | ||
| This isn't all written up, prefab. | ||
| This is research. | ||
| This is passion. | ||
| This is a world understanding, but it is unscripted. | ||
| So there's mistakes, but I rarely fundamentally misgauge Major geopolitical movements and national movements. | ||
| Because I've been doing this 23 years, on air over 20, and I've learned who the players are, who the different clubs are, who the different power structures are. | ||
| And in the last 20 plus years, it's been the same group of players, several different camps, but globalists all the same. | ||
| So we're not getting too much information there about... | ||
| That's nothing. | ||
| Well, he's just saying that he's never wrong. | ||
| He's just saying he's the rightest person there ever was. | ||
| Right, but sometimes he's wrong every once in a while. | ||
| He's a man enough to stand up and say, I got the date wrong that one time. | ||
| But even though that stuff is deflectionary bullshit, this is unlike Alex. | ||
| This is unlike Alex. | ||
| The idea that he is undoing all of this stuff he's been saying for the last two months is very weird. | ||
| And it's very abrupt. | ||
| It is really abrupt. | ||
| Because he ended the 14th show, which was Friday. | ||
| No show on Saturday. | ||
| He ended it saying negative things about Trump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Still giving him the benefit of the doubt, but he's a huckster, he's a liar, he's a slumlord. | ||
| All of this stuff. | ||
| And even though the trajectory that we've seen hasn't been flat and then there was a change today, there's been some little motion of like... | ||
| He's a distraction and we don't even want to talk about him. | ||
| Listen, let me tell you, he's mobbed up. | ||
| Well, I like what he's saying, but he's the bad guy. | ||
| He's saying this shit about John McCain in order to tank the polls, obviously. | ||
| Right, he's a shill. | ||
| The consistent thread is, I'm certain he's a shill, or I know things about him. | ||
| And this is very jarring. | ||
| But, we're going to get to what he has to say. | ||
| He has a statement he wants to make. | ||
| But first, we've got to pay the bills. | ||
| We've got to do a little bit of a Super Male Vitality commercial that really spells out what that product's about. | ||
| The effects are different for different people, but the big one everybody notices is what happens in the morning when you wake up about 6 a.m. | ||
| And I'm just telling you that I'll just be honest with people. | ||
| I don't need Cialis or Viagra, but as a man 41 years old, you know, I... | ||
| Once the doctor had a checkup a year ago, whatever, and they just say, you want some? | ||
| I said, sure, I'll try it. | ||
| And I have bottles of both Cialis and Vagra that I never used, let's be honest. | ||
| I mean, I use a few of them because it doesn't have the effect Super Mel does. | ||
| And I don't need Super Mel either. | ||
| It's just, it takes it to the next level. | ||
| And let's not be a bunch of kids here if you're like, oh my gosh, he's talking about, you know, libido pills. | ||
| That's just an idea of what it does for everything else. | ||
| It's like, oh, the boner is a metaphor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| You're going to have a mind boner. | ||
| The boner is a metaphor. | ||
| Yeah, that's nonsense. | ||
| It's a dick pill! | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah, we can put that... | ||
| Or a dropper. | ||
| Yeah, we can put that to bed. | ||
| Any concerns that it's not. | ||
| Yeah, and the women's version is very similar, apparently, just with horny goat weed. | ||
| Yeah, it's better for Alex. | ||
| Somehow, yeah. | ||
| Somehow he gets a bigger, harder dick from the women's version. | ||
| Yeah, so here we go. | ||
| This is the last clip I have. | ||
| This is basically his statement on Trump, where he's at on August 16th, and he does- Thanks for dropping in the dick thing for me. | ||
| I know you did that for me. | ||
| Not just for you. | ||
| I know you did that for me. | ||
| That's for the listeners, too. | ||
| You wanted to make me feel good before this. | ||
| Well, I mean, one of the pieces of our investigation is, too, like, what are these things he's selling? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And our long-term contention that it's a boner pill. | ||
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Right. | |
| And to use the word properly, that was our penultimate clip. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And here is, he gets to what changed his mind a little bit. | ||
| And then when we get on the other side of it, I'll lament why he's still not telling the truth. | ||
| Here's what's going on with Donald Trump. | ||
| He goes back to the founding of our country. | ||
| Why do we have three branches of government? | ||
| Because the founders knew that... | ||
| Clicks, gangs, strongmen, Napoleon Bonaparte types, Hitler types, King George types, William the Conqueror types, Julian... | ||
| I'd like to point out that within the last week of these episodes in the timeline, Alex Jones has unfavorably compared Donald Trump to both Napoleon and Hitler. | ||
| To all of those guys. | ||
| Caesar types, Conqueror types would try to come in... | ||
| If there was one branch, they could take it over. | ||
| But if you set up other people in control of other powerful branches, they would tend to compete with each other and use the Constitution as checks on the other. | ||
| And that because we have three centers of government, that would not allow a dictatorship to form. | ||
| How sad is it that, in hindsight, his analysis is right and why we're fucked? | ||
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Yep. | |
| And, in hindsight, how sad is it that Alex Jones now spends all of his time attacking the judiciary, the only branch of the government that isn't under the sway of the crazy, out-of-control GOP? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| How... | ||
| Well, hey, hey, come on. | ||
| Don't forget, they control the Supreme Court also. | ||
| Nah, not control. | ||
| There's still some issues. | ||
| We'll see how it plays out. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's not looking good. | ||
| If we're hoping that Anthony Kennedy is going to help us out here, come on, guys. | ||
| Roger Stone has announced that he knows that there's another Supreme Court opening about to happen. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, but I don't know. | ||
| Roger Stone's going to kill Anthony Kennedy? | ||
| Yeah, that's probably it. | ||
| He's going to give him polonium from his own blood. | ||
| That's the twist. | ||
| All right. | ||
| They're going to make out. | ||
| ...and the CIA above the law and the National Security Act at 47. And the media being bought off by big corporations, that's kind of been checked. | ||
| But not checkmated, but still it acts. | ||
| And somebody like Donald Trump that's got four plus billion dollars, tens of billions in other assets, who makes his money off having a rich economy. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Off people vacationing, people buying products, people buying nice condos, houses. | ||
| He gets hurt by an economy shutting down. | ||
| The fact that he has to say, make America great again. | ||
| Shows how much freedom we've lost and that we really know we're in a long, cold depression. | ||
| And he speaks to that. | ||
| He says, look, our borders are wide open. | ||
| We don't have good negotiators. | ||
| Everybody can come here and have babies for free and criminals can come here. | ||
| It's wrong. | ||
| I'll turn things around. | ||
| I'll cut taxes by 40%. | ||
| That's all true. | ||
| That would work if he's for real. | ||
| Not for you. | ||
| He'll cut them on somebody else. | ||
| But then he goes after Hillary Clinton and the rest of it. | ||
| Clearly now, For whatever reason, they thought it was a joke at first. | ||
| And he still maybe blackmailed. | ||
| It may be a setup. | ||
| But listen, he could be president now. | ||
| He is the hands-down frontrunner. | ||
| If he would work with somebody like Rand Paul, that'd bring in a lot of anti-war Democrats. | ||
| He better not double-cross people, or I tell you, he is going to be in big trouble. | ||
| He will be boycotted. | ||
| People will come after him politically. | ||
| But regardless, he's going after the Clintons now, which is a big deal. | ||
| Let's go ahead and go to one of these clips, but it's the separation of powers. | ||
| Trump wants to be president. | ||
| And there's been a lot of leaders in history that weren't perfect, but they wanted to have a big, powerful country under them. | ||
| That's more like a Boss Hogg management instead of wanting everybody poor to control him. | ||
| Boss Hogg was not the hero! | ||
| The Trump type doesn't want a bunch of poor people under him. | ||
| He wants wealthy people. | ||
| He wants success. | ||
| He is a capitalist at the end of the day. | ||
| He's totally different than, you know, a Barack Obama and a Cloward and Piven. | ||
| Let's bankrupt people and make them dependent on us. | ||
| I'm not lionizing him, saying he's perfect. | ||
| Again, he says arrest Snowden, execute him, he's a traitor. | ||
| He's got some major problems. | ||
| But it's night and day, and it shows how the country's upset. | ||
| Let's go to this first clip. | ||
| We'll come back with the rest. | ||
| This is Trump on Clinton emails saying she has a criminal problem. | ||
| This is bold, folks. | ||
| This means he's really going after him. | ||
| He's really running for president because this just won't get him in the lead, which he's already in the lead, and then he can drop out later for Hillary. | ||
| This will destroy her if he gets on board with all his supporters calling for criminal prosecution because it'll make it safe for other people to do it, then there's nowhere for her to hide. | ||
| This is epic. | ||
| Here's the clip. | ||
| She said that her emails are not a general election problem. | ||
| She said her emails are not. | ||
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It's a partisan concern. | |
| Is she wrong about the action? | ||
| It's a criminal problem. | ||
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I mean, it's going to be a very serious problem. | |
| It's going to be about as serious as it gets. | ||
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You look at General Petraeus, and he was destroyed over a much lesser event. | |
| So, I think she's got a very big deal. | ||
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But these emails were not classified. | |
| Hers were not classified. | ||
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Well, I think some of hers were. | |
| And it seemed like they took a lot of markings off. | ||
| I mean, somebody has got a big problem with it. | ||
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Any worry Republicans can overplay their hand on this? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That is what it is. | ||
| It was a terrible thing she did. | ||
| No, it's actually a new reformist. | ||
| There's no reason to do it. | ||
| And she's got a big problem. | ||
| Have you talked to Bill Clinton since, Matt? | ||
| That's enough. | ||
| So that's what happened. | ||
| Trump said a couple negative things about Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Trump. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Wanted to jail Hillary. | ||
| That's pretty much it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the big thing. | ||
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That's what happened over the weekend. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's all Alex needed, was somebody to come out and say, let's put Hillary Clinton in jail. | ||
| Basically. | ||
| But I actually think it's much bigger than this. | ||
| Well, you would have to. | ||
| Well, I think that it turns out our theories are both kind of correct, because this is very close after the first debate. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, maybe the first debate didn't get him on board with Trump, but it opened the door a little bit. | ||
| And I don't have the exact audio of it, but even on this episode, he's still saying, I'm not endorsing him. | ||
| I just think that he is a serious candidate now that he's spoken out against Clintons. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So he's not fully on board, but I know what's going to happen. | ||
| The thought that he was having, the reason that he was holding back was because he thought that... | ||
| The real reason was because he thought that Trump was owned by the Clintons. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Now that he knows Trump wants to put Hillary Clinton in jail... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To pander to a base. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He doesn't really want to do that. | ||
| No. | ||
| Nobody... | ||
| Well, I mean, maybe he could now. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But... | ||
| So by getting rid of that, all of his other objections were bullshit. | ||
| They weren't, though. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I mean, for him. | ||
| They were just rationalization. | ||
| They don't matter as much as how much he hates Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He hates her so much. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Based on lies that Larry Nichols has told him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But the thing is... | ||
| Oh, and internalized misogyny. | ||
| But, like... | ||
| Internalized? | ||
| More like just externalized. | ||
| Well, it certainly comes out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the thing is... | ||
| I know exactly what's going to happen now. | ||
| Oh, the other thing is that he's okay with the idea that Trump may lead us to fascism because he hates Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Totally fine with that. | ||
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I would actually say that that was during the race. | |
| I think most Republicans would have agreed with that. | ||
| Yeah, they might not have said that. | ||
| I would rather have fascism than a woman president. | ||
| Well, it's not even just a woman president. | ||
| Well, a Hillary Clinton. | ||
| The woman that we've heard so many lies about. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| Like, I can predict 100% what's going to happen now. | ||
| Because Alex has now opened the door. | ||
| Then the door is dangerous. | ||
| The door was being held shut by his concern that Trump was a shill for the Clintons. | ||
| That specific fear. | ||
| That he's just there to torpedo Rand Paul. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now that he has publicly done this trial balloon on this Sunday show, what's going to happen is... | ||
| Now that Roger Stone isn't part of the campaign, he's going to show up and kick that door wide open. | ||
| He's going to use Alex. | ||
| So Roger Stone is not part of the Trump campaign right now? | ||
| No. | ||
| And he's not involved in Infowars at all. | ||
| Alex Jones is going to be used like a fucking puppet by these people. | ||
| A very willing puppet. | ||
| But it's going to be the harshest exploitation we've ever seen. | ||
| It's going to be a combination of forces. | ||
| My prediction that it's the Pachenics and the Roger Stones that get him on board with Trump and your prediction that it's just after the first debate are both, I think, going to be accurate. | ||
| And it bums me the fuck out. | ||
| I don't like the idea that what led to everything is just hatred of Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Because that's fucking boring for me. | ||
| Yeah, but you know, that is... | ||
| I mean, that's boring, but that's also really the only conclusion that you can draw. | ||
| That wouldn't have been in my first couple of even suspect when we first started. | ||
| I mean, of the whole election. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's really the big one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, you can say... | ||
| Alex Jones is mainstream as fuck. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, he thinks he's on some sort of external, I'm above the fray, I'm into deep cover stuff. | ||
| He just hates Hillary. | ||
| Yeah, he's as bad as anybody in any conservative media outlet. | ||
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Yep. | |
| He's as bad as anyone on Fox News. | ||
| He's as bad as anybody. | ||
| He's as weak. | ||
| He's as lame in terms of what drives him. | ||
| So it bums me out. | ||
| If it was really fucking chimeras or something like that... | ||
| How fun would that be? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If it turns out that that was his sticking point, like maybe Trump says something about chimeras in a speech. | ||
| Oh, that would have been great. | ||
| And that's the turning point. | ||
| See, that would have been perfect. | ||
| That would have been amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's just Trump ambivalently said that Hillary Clinton has a criminal problem. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He didn't even say it that forcefully in that interview. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And that interview is terrible. | ||
| That's very bad audio and it's very short. | ||
| And they kept saying... | ||
| Yeah, this is before they kept saying, lock her up, too. | ||
| Yeah, that's before that. | ||
| That's part of the whole thing. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And the other thing is, on this Sunday show, the 16th, a lot of his callers haven't caught up with the narrative yet. | ||
| A lot of them are still doing the, no, he's a shill. | ||
| They're mirroring his past dialogue as opposed to what he's already shifted the narrative to. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So his callers appear way smarter than him in hindsight. | ||
| There are a bunch of people who are calling in. | ||
| He's like, he's saying this about the Clintons. | ||
| They're still working together. | ||
| It's the same thing as when he said that Barack Obama's birth certificate was fake. | ||
| He was working with them. | ||
| Because then they released the fake birth certificate. | ||
| The other fake birth... | ||
| It's convoluted nonsense logic. | ||
| But at least his callers are... | ||
| Not at least. | ||
| But it's fascinating to see... | ||
| They haven't picked up. | ||
| And I guarantee within a scant week or so, they will have downloaded the new operating system. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| And they will be following exactly what he says. | ||
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Right. | |
| And it's not because he screens calls, obviously. | ||
| Obviously not. | ||
| We've seen the kind of people who get through. | ||
| It's because his listeners are so malleable. | ||
| They're so stuck in believing whatever he says that it doesn't matter. | ||
| Trump is a shill. | ||
| Trump is a slumlord. | ||
| Trump is mob-connected. | ||
| He's a Pied Piper who could lead the alt-right, not even called that at this point, but the Tea Party folks, the patriots. | ||
| He could lead us to fascism. | ||
| All that stuff is being mirrored back to him by callers. | ||
| He shifts the narrative. | ||
| And they go right back? | ||
| Yep, they're going to follow him. | ||
| That's... | ||
| This thing, like, it's so much the exact... | ||
| Fun of conspiracy theories. | ||
| Like, you and I both were like, fuck, maybe there's something there. | ||
| Maybe there's some investigation. | ||
| I still think there is. | ||
| I'm sure there's going to be more than just... | ||
| But this pivot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This pivot is the thing that bums both of us out. | ||
| Super bummer. | ||
| Because how much better a world, or how much more fun a world do we live in where it is like a blackmail thing or something like that? | ||
| This is a microcosm of conspiracy theories. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| You do some research and you find out it's not nearly as exciting as you'd hoped. | ||
| No. | ||
| But it does speak to underlying societal issues, much like most conspiracy theories do. | ||
| I still think 100% that the fact that Roger Stone hasn't shown up yet means he probably shows up very soon. | ||
| I would say he probably shows up real soon. | ||
| And Roger Stone hates Hillary Clinton and has forever. | ||
| He hates the Clintons, insanely. | ||
| I predict Larry Nichols is going to show up real soon again. | ||
| He's been absent from the program for a bit. | ||
| I predict that now all of these anti-Clinton influences will congeal and they will start using Alex as their mouthpiece, tricking him in some ways to not really be anti-Clinton. | ||
| They'll shift it to pro-Trump. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure Roger Stone knows, like, you can listen to Alex a couple times and know basically how to... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Roger Stone is a manipulative guy who's been around for decades doing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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He could listen to a couple episodes. | |
| He manipulated a tattoo artist into tattooing Nixon on his back. | ||
| But he could find, like, a couple things that he knows he can sweet-talk Alex with, and once Alex has opened the door, that, like... | ||
| Maybe Trump is for real. | ||
| I gotta get in there. | ||
| This is going to be our PR campaign. | ||
| This is going to be our PR machine. | ||
| I'm no longer with the Trump campaign. | ||
| This is how I can serve the interests best. | ||
| It's still, I think, a conspiracy, but it's not nearly what I wanted it to be. | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm sorry, Dan. | ||
| It's alright. | ||
| It wasn't Chimeras this time. | ||
| I accept reality, but at the same time, this investigation is not closed. | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| Because he's still not on Trump 2.0 1776 all over again. | ||
| Yeah, he's George Washington come back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we do still need to figure out, and I think it's probably going to happen pretty quick. | ||
| I think so, too. | ||
| I think our next episode might have him turning into the false prophet, as it were. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But, I mean, we'll see. | ||
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We'll see. | |
| I mean, there's so many different things about that. | ||
| Like, this election is going to be one of the most studied things in history. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For so many different reasons. | ||
| It's one of the most fascinating... | ||
| If it weren't going to end the world, it would be super fascinating to read about it. | ||
| Whenever our fish people progenitors or progeny study the mistakes that led to their creation... | ||
| Or the Anunnaki comeback. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's going to be like, maybe... | ||
| One of the biggest things that the Democrats, not like a Sanders would have won or any of that narrative, or they didn't talk to the people, they didn't go campaign in Minnesota or Michigan or Wisconsin or something like that. | ||
| Maybe it really is the Democrats just underestimated how much people fucking hate Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, personally. | ||
| As much of misogyny as a part of the hate of Hillary Clinton. | ||
| It's metastasized beyond that. | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| Like, you can hate women, but they hate Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Yeah, and misogyny is a piece of it, and it's worth being discussed. | ||
| But it's not like the people who hate her hate her because she's a woman. | ||
| It's incidental. | ||
| I think what it is, is it led to, it was the beginning of the hate for her. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like, that misogyny was, we need to hate somebody, and Hillary is an outspoken woman next to the president who we hate so much. | ||
| And everybody was claiming that she was the one calling the shots and stuff like that. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| They did the whole thing, they kept building these narratives around her, which are easy to push because of that misogyny. | ||
| That's a great point. | ||
| And then the misogyny goes... | ||
| Just kind of sits in the background, because now you have, oh, she murdered Vince Foster. | ||
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| But all of these people hate Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Comparatively speaking, I would say that if it was Elizabeth Warren, she has a better chance, because they don't hate her personally, the same way that they hate Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Personally. | ||
| Trump would have a field day with it still calling her Pocahontas and what have you, but it wouldn't stick nearly as hard. | ||
| No, because she's not Hillary Clinton. | ||
| That's the thing that they hated. | ||
| I think they just underestimated how much people hate her. | ||
| I think that's a big part of it, and I think Benghazi, too, the fallout of Benghazi, is going to be maybe a hinge in history. | ||
| I think because of everyone thinking that she... | ||
| Was running guns and killed Chris Stevens. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like, I think that that might be the turning point in terms of what fucked everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, if that propaganda campaign about Benghazi didn't happen, it's hard to say if the hatred of her would have been as fresh. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because a lot of those other scandals are so deep in the past, and a lot of them are pretty easy to debunk. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like, a lot of those Clinton body bag shit is all... | ||
| You can go one through one. | ||
| One for one through all of those murders, alleged murders, and debunk a bunch of them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Almost all of them, I'd say. | ||
| And the other ones are just suspicious circumstances that certainly are not evidence of murder. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Arkansides. | ||
| I'm really bummed out. | ||
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| Anyway, something that's not a bummer. | ||
| I'm glad that you brought Arkansides back. | ||
| I still think that's a pretty good one. | ||
| I also still think Larry Nichols is about to make an appearance. | ||
| But we'll see next time. | ||
| But until then, you can check out our website. | ||
| It's at... | ||
| Knowledge underscore fight on Twitter. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| If you want to go to our website, though, you go to... | ||
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Knowledgefight.com? | ||
| And there's a button on the website to support the show. | ||
| If you'd like to give us some money, we would appreciate it. | ||
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| You're willing... | ||
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| You're able to give whatever you'd like on a monthly basis. | ||
| Give as much or as little as you like. | ||
| We appreciate it. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| Go to us on iTunes, leave a review, because Dan fucking needs it right now. | ||
| He is bummed out. | ||
| This is a bummer. | ||
| He wanted chimeras, and instead he got Hillary Clinton. | ||
| That's not what I wanted. | ||
| I wanted something. | ||
| You wanted... | ||
| Oh, don't pout. | ||
| No, I mean, I wanted something other than the most basic ass explanation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because, like, when we started this investigation... | ||
| Someone... | ||
| I could have had a conversation with somebody, and they'd be like, oh, he clearly just hated Hillary Clinton. | ||
| And I'd be like, there's probably more to it than that. | ||
| And then we find all this weird stuff about him talking shit on Trump, and it seems like there's going to be something, and it's just, nah, Trump talked shit about Hillary Clinton. | ||
| He's like, I like that. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Jesus, that is so silly. | ||
| Yeah, we could have just assumed and been correct. | ||
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Right. | |
| At least we kind of know. | ||
| But, I mean, again, you're right. | ||
| They're still investigating to do. | ||
| We don't know why he became... | ||
| A cheerleader. | ||
| But yeah, leave a five-star review that says, Dan, we hope you feel better someday. | ||
| And we're on Facebook. | ||
| If you want to join up, follow us on Facebook. | ||
| I've been starting to put a few things on there. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Thank everybody who has already started to like us and follow us. | ||
| We need more. | ||
| Dan, I know you've just taken some really, really bad news. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know you've taken it hard. | ||
| I have some good news for you, though. | ||
| Oh, please. | ||
| Anything. | ||
| I know this is going to really cheer you up. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| What? | ||
| Rappaport still lives! | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |