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May 17, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#42: March 11, 2014

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on the March 11, 2014 episode of The Alex Jones Show in this installment of their Time Travel Series. Listener Nick assigned the date based on wanting to hear Alex's take on the disappearance of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370. Alex touches on that, and the following topics: A satanic hamburger A long rant about the Devil What happens to Rob Dew when he takes Super Male Vitality Whether or not Alex Jones can hypnotize people

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
25:33
d
dan friesen
57:01
j
jordan holmes
32:37
Appearances
r
rob dew
02:03
Clips
b
billy corgan
00:12
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink on some red wine and talk about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
We talk about usually a day in the current life of Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Indeed, that is something we generally do.
jordan holmes
And the twist on that is that you listen to a lot of Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Pretty much every day.
jordan holmes
And I don't listen to any Alex Jones at all.
dan friesen
Which is the right amount.
I listen to way too much.
jordan holmes
The appropriate amount is no amount.
dan friesen
Indeed.
And therein lies the fun of the show.
I get to tell you all about what's happened in his day.
jordan holmes
And I get to scream like a madman.
dan friesen
That's pretty much it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Today we're going to do something a little different.
And that's why we're drinking a bottle of wine called Avant, which is in French, before.
jordan holmes
Aha!
unidentified
En français, c 'est très bien.
jordan holmes
Well, as far as the taste of this wine goes, I would prefer if we lived in the before I drank it.
dan friesen
Ce n 'est pas bien.
unidentified
Ce vin est terrible.
dan friesen
Et mal.
jordan holmes
All right.
Come on now.
Restart the podcast.
dan friesen
Je suis calais.
jordan holmes
Restart it.
dan friesen
That means I'm smart.
I'm running out of French phrases.
So today, what we're going to be doing, thanks to...
A donation from my best friend in the world, Nikki Gifts.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
He had donated to the show.
He was already a policy wonk.
But he bumped up his donation.
jordan holmes
He bumped it up?
dan friesen
In order to get himself a time travel episode.
jordan holmes
Fuck yeah, man.
dan friesen
We're going back in time to 2014 today.
jordan holmes
2014?
dan friesen
2014.
Three years ago.
A simpler time.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Considering all the news, just all the news.
dan friesen
That's why we had to escape.
jordan holmes
I don't think there's any...
I've not checked my Twitter feed and seen even the slightest cute puppy.
dan friesen
A lot of bad shit's breaking.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And...
In Alex Jones fashion, his show has been dogshit the last two days.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's had Roger Stone in studio, and on Monday, it was just the two of them having a Skype conversation with Mike Cernovich, and they were just like, aren't we great?
That was kind of the whole thing.
It was just three guys, just like, we're fucking awesome, we break stories, and the whole time, they were talking about how Reince Priebus was the leak.
And they had secret information from their sources that Reince Priebus was leaking everything and how, like, it's finally time.
We can come out with it.
Then, that afternoon, the news broke of Trump giving information to the Russian foreign ambassador, Lavrov.
jordan holmes
Right, but it was Priebus who gave him the information first.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Priebus leaked it to the president because, as we all know, hopefully the president has no fucking clue what's going on.
dan friesen
It's even better than that.
It's even better.
Because as soon as that happened, they had to adjust their narrative.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because it had to be someone who was in that meeting that was the person who leaked this to the Washington Post.
And so...
Him and Roger Stone just do a Facebook video in a hallway where they're like, we knew all along it was McMaster.
jordan holmes
Fuck you!
dan friesen
Just completely invalidating the last day.
It's so great.
jordan holmes
That's such a snapshot of all the Republicans right now.
Let's just completely forget what happened yesterday.
We're going to start fresh and then something new horrible happens every single fucking day.
dan friesen
And then today, Tuesday, as we're recording this...
Alex had Roger Stone in studio some more.
They talked a bunch more shit that's inconsequential.
jordan holmes
I like Roger Stone being very close to the border of Mexico.
There's a reason.
Yeah, I think he knows what's coming.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's a flight risk if there ever has been one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
So he was on, and again, we're just talking a lot of shit, and it was really uncomfortable because I think Alex was drunk.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Day drunk.
jordan holmes
Day drunk?
dan friesen
It seemed like it.
Like, he couldn't stop losing, like, control of himself.
I wanted to pull some clips of it, because it's just, like, it's out of control.
He's doing impressions left and right.
He's doing, like, Chuck Schumer as some sort of a Wizard of Oz villain, kind of.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It's a disaster.
jordan holmes
Why the fuck not?
dan friesen
And Roger Stone sitting there the whole time, like, oh, fuck, I should not have teamed up with him.
But this guy cannot control himself at all.
So then Roger Stone leaves, and Dr. Group comes in.
jordan holmes
Ah, the illustrious Dr. Group.
dan friesen
They do about an hour and a half, maybe an hour, a little over an hour, commercial for a new product that they've put out.
Basically, as best I can tell, the function of it is it makes you pee more.
I tweeted that out.
jordan holmes
You know what?
If you have prostate issues, that's not a bad product.
dan friesen
They already have Prostaguard, though.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but that's to protect against your prostate cancers and the like.
unidentified
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
This is to ease you into that transition of the end of your life.
dan friesen
This is about, like, heavy metals and stuff like that.
It's like, if you don't pee and shit and menstrual blood enough, that is basically what they were saying.
jordan holmes
He said if you...
dan friesen
They were saying that if you don't discharge enough, however you discharge, then all these metals fill up in you and funguses in your brain.
It was very non-specific.
jordan holmes
Do they know women also pee?
Do they know that?
Or do they think that men pee and women menstruate?
dan friesen
They just bleed.
jordan holmes
They just bleed all the time.
dan friesen
That's in the Bible.
Dr. Group is nothing if not a consummate Christian.
unidentified
Excellent.
dan friesen
So we're going to get to...
Basically, we're not missing out on much, is what I'm saying.
It's a crock of horse shit.
Although, this Thursday, looking forward to it, John Rappaport should be back in studio, because it's been a week.
jordan holmes
He's not in studio.
dan friesen
God damn it!
I know, I'm sorry to tease you like that.
jordan holmes
God, if he was in studio...
Some prop master has to put a fucking picture in the bed.
dan friesen
Worlds would collide if he was in the studio.
Also, I'm hoping as I go back through these time travel things to find John Rappaport in some stray episode.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I have not yet, but I'm looking forward to it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we should find out Rappaport's origin story.
dan friesen
Oh, totally.
I would love to see his first appearance.
Oh, absolutely.
jordan holmes
Frankly, I would love to see his birth, just to see how it goes from there.
dan friesen
Yeah, today's episode.
jordan holmes
I don't actually want to see his birth.
dan friesen
It would probably be shocking.
He comes out all googly-eyed with a huge beard.
I'm describing myself now.
jordan holmes
Dentures.
Dentures actually came out first.
unidentified
Rappaport is me in the future, by the way.
dan friesen
He has a cross-eye.
He has a big beard.
My teeth are going to fall out, I'm certain.
Holy shit.
I've got to start distrusting science.
jordan holmes
Your optimism is insane.
dan friesen
What, that I'm going to turn into Rappaport?
jordan holmes
No, that you're going to live that long.
dan friesen
That's fair.
So today, I will play this out of context, drop, and then we will reveal the date we time-traveled back to.
alex jones
So I know the conclusions of what's going on more than most.
Nuts and bolts, not so much.
dan friesen
He is not a details guy.
That really sums up sort of how Alex Jones lives his life.
Nuts and bolts.
jordan holmes
Eh, not really a big deal for me.
dan friesen
I don't care about the nitty gritty.
So, today, I got my assignment from Nicky Gifts, and he told me, you gotta go back to March 8th, 2014.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Now, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Was March 8th, 2014?
dan friesen
You don't remember March 8th, 2014?
jordan holmes
I fucking remember nothing.
dan friesen
This is disgusting.
jordan holmes
If you give me...
dan friesen
I thought you were a scholar?
A man of letters?
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
If you give me a thing, then I can tell you when it happened.
You can't give me a when it happened and I tell you the thing.
That's not how my brain works.
dan friesen
It was the day that the Malaysian plane went missing.
unidentified
Oh, fuck yes!
jordan holmes
This is the greatest day of my life.
dan friesen
So, March 8th, 2014.
jordan holmes
Also, a scholar?
I need to be a scholar to know.
dan friesen
It was a big day.
Big day for all of us.
So on March 8th, Alex is doing his show, and it's awful.
He doesn't mention the plane at all.
And so it's just about how South by Southwest is going on, and they're trying to take people's guns.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
So I check in on the next episode.
jordan holmes
Wait, South by Southwest is trying to take?
Not South by Southwest.
Southwest Airlines.
unidentified
No, no.
dan friesen
South by Southwest.
jordan holmes
South by Southwest.
dan friesen
The music festival, yes.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
They're trying to push an anti-gun agenda.
With Bloomberg and what have you.
I don't know.
It's nonsense.
So he's getting really excited and most of that show is him talking about how they're going to hold a We've Got Guns march where everyone has guns.
unidentified
A bad idea.
dan friesen
It seems aggressive.
jordan holmes
A large group of people with guns is not the image you want to project.
dan friesen
It's bad optics, but it does seem like it can go down peacefully and calmly.
Absolutely.
There are examples of it.
jordan holmes
Like Richard Spencer's horrifying racist revamp of the KKK.
unidentified
Those weren't guns.
dan friesen
Those were torches.
jordan holmes
You know.
There's no negative connotations associated with a bunch of white people holding torches.
I've never seen anything like that.
dan friesen
I just think of Frankenstein.
No big deal.
jordan holmes
No, it went down peacefully.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You gotta give them that, which is a whole lot better than the old...
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
That's why 2.0.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Improvement.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
America's the bad guy.
unidentified
Anyways.
dan friesen
So, on the 8th, nothing.
Next episode, I think David Knight was hosting the next one, and I'm like, I don't even care what David Knight says about this.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I'm starting to notice a trend.
When big things go down, Alex ends up out of studio.
Because David Knight was in right after the last one, too.
So David Knight's in.
I'm like, fuck it.
I don't care.
The next episode that Alex is back in studio hosting, everything is back to normal, is March 11th, 2014.
And that is the episode we'll be covering.
And man, I'm glad.
Because this episode is...
Profoundly stupid.
Wonderful.
But...
jordan holmes
Theory.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
He is out of studio when big things happen because the people who work for him are like, listen, we have to spin a narrative because if you go on there, you're going to say all kinds of crazy shit that the rest of our guys are not going to sign off on.
dan friesen
No, I disagree with that theory because he has such an iron grip on InfoWars that Rob Dew isn't going to sway him.
Just because Rob Dew has established a narrative, it doesn't mean that Alex isn't going to buck that narrative.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Alex can't be contradicted.
Everybody else can.
So it doesn't matter if he's there day of.
Like I told you, on the Boston bombing day, he was hanging out with Richard Belzer.
jordan holmes
The Bells!
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex Jones...
jordan holmes
Ask not for whom the bells calls.
dan friesen
Alex Jones...
unidentified
The bells calls for Jones.
jordan holmes
Will Shakespeare.
dan friesen
Alex Jones spends...
A shockingly small amount of this episode talking about the Malaysian plane.
unidentified
How?
jordan holmes
That's right up his alley!
dan friesen
It's so in the wheelhouse.
It's like, Alex, baby, this is a meatball.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly!
dan friesen
You can knock this one out of the park.
So here's how he begins the episode and talks a little bit about the plane.
alex jones
We've got mysteries.
Everybody loves a mystery, and it's a tragic mystery.
Without a trace, you have this Malaysian...
And I've seen the videos of the Iranians that were boarding the flight.
And I've got to tell you, looking at the eyes and the bearing of these two guys, they look committed.
And I'm not saying they're guilty, but my gut tells me these are trained people right here.
And they're very serious on a mission.
And they look like Iranian Republican Guard or something.
That's all I can say, is that they look like the exact type of infiltrators you would use who don't look like big, tough guys, but are actually infiltrators.
I mean, just my gut, looking at this photo that I'm showing people on TV, folks can go to Infowars.com or any other news site for that matter and see the photos.
DrudgeReport.com probably has the best, most extensive coverage of it all.
dan friesen
Can't possibly be true.
jordan holmes
This is back whenever he was afraid of Muslim men, and it hadn't yet extended to small Muslim girls in Starbucks.
dan friesen
Yes, yes, this is just pure Islamophobia.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
But the thing that's interesting is he doesn't really go over it, but what he's talking about is there was a story about two gentlemen who had, like, fake passports who had gotten on the plane.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So it's actually spookier than the way he's describing it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The fact that they had fake passports makes it like, uh, that's sketchy.
jordan holmes
Where was that plane going?
dan friesen
I don't remember.
jordan holmes
Malaysia?
dan friesen
No, it was coming from Malaysia, I believe.
Boy, we're dumb.
Flight 370 was a scheduled flight in the early morning hours of the 8th of March 2014 from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia to Beijing, China.
It was one of two daily flights operated by Malaysia Airlines from its hub in Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, capital...
International Airport.
Scheduled to depart at...
I don't know how to translate this fucking military time.
jordan holmes
It's a number.
Another number, and then two zeros.
dan friesen
Too difficult.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
The planned flight duration was 5 hours 34 minutes, which would consume an estimated 37,200 kilograms of jet fuel.
The aircraft carried 49,100 kilograms of fuel, including reserves, allowing an endurance of 7 hours 31 minutes.
The extra fuel was enough to divert to alternate airports, which would require blah blah blah, a little extra gas.
So they could have gone to a different airport if that was the sort of emergency.
Right.
Yeah, so it was going from Malaysia to China, which is not a huge jaunt.
Five-hour flight.
jordan holmes
I had a hard time caring.
dan friesen
Wow.
unidentified
Heartless.
dan friesen
Heartless.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Heartless.
jordan holmes
There were 10 million other atrocities that day.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It was one plane.
dan friesen
And it was right in the middle of the whole situation in the Ukraine.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's like, I get it.
That was a fun distraction for everybody.
It's like, ooh, what happened to this plane?
dan friesen
Like Alex said, everybody loves a mystery.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Getting back to these two dudes that Alex has fingered.
Yes.
It's a term.
jordan holmes
I know.
I know, but I'm a 12-year-old.
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
You little 12-year-old wonk.
So Alex has pointed out these dudes, and the idea that they had fraudulent passports makes the situation reasonable to be suspicious.
But all he does is talk about, look at them.
He holds up a picture.
He's like, look at these guys.
jordan holmes
Look at them.
dan friesen
They're brown.
That's basically all he's saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, problem solved.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's crazy.
jordan holmes
They look like infiltrators.
dan friesen
So he goes on a little bit more to...
jordan holmes
Also, isn't that not...
That's not the profile of people trying to commit terrorist acts?
Disappearing?
Just, like, wouldn't the plane have...
Like, if you were trying to commit a terrorism...
Commit a terrorism, which is a noun now.
Sure.
Wouldn't you want...
A giant explosion or a fireball, not just a disappearance?
dan friesen
I'm glad you asked that.
Alex has some thoughts about hijackings.
jordan holmes
Aha!
alex jones
And my gut tells me it's a hijacking, and they crash the plane into the ocean.
We've seen quite a few of those getting hijacked out of Egypt and other areas.
Real hijacking?
They will take over, and they will get in the cockpit, and they will fly the plane into the water.
And they'll generally do it with firearms or bombs they've smuggled on.
Again, if it was a false flag, you would have naked body scanners rolling out next week.
Like the Christmas Day bombing, where the guy was a known government minion.
His dad tied into the CIA.
They did fake videos putting his face into hooded Muslims at terror training camps.
He was clearly drugged, getting Mitalab on the plane.
jordan holmes
Doesn't Alex have family tied to the CIA?
alex jones
Turned out the CIA again basically ordered the airline there in Amsterdam to get him on the plane.
jordan holmes
And we broke that here.
alex jones
It later came out in congressional testimony.
jordan holmes
That's obvious.
alex jones
But they moved away from it very quickly.
That was a staged event because, oh, we're going to put naked body scanners in next week because of this.
When they'd ordered them a year and a half before.
And the outgoing head of Homeland Security, Chertoff, stood to make hundreds of millions himself off of it.
Off the billions.
He headed up the company.
So that was a total PR rollout.
dan friesen
Boy, my timing was off there.
You get what he's saying there in terms of his premise?
That because there's no weird thing that the globalists are trying to push.
jordan holmes
It was just a garden variety hijacking.
dan friesen
It was a real hijacking because the globalists aren't ready to do something to us because of that.
jordan holmes
They haven't yet capitalized on the crisis.
dan friesen
Right, which is strange thinking, I would say.
jordan holmes
I think there is a certain internal logic there.
Because if you're a secret evil corporation, Of globalists.
You would want an outcome that's favorable to you.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So if the outcome is just...
dan friesen
You're describing the Hegelian dialect here.
That's basically what it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You create circumstances to get the outcome that you want.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
You fake a terror attack in order to push these body scanners or whatever.
unidentified
Nailed it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
There is an internal logic to it.
It's not sensible.
You need to do more groundwork on it.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to get to sensible through Alex Jones.
I'm just going for trying to understand what his viewpoint is.
dan friesen
Sure, and I think you have done that there.
I just think that if you're...
jordan holmes
Now, my theory...
dan friesen
I'm listening.
jordan holmes
Amelia Earhart.
dan friesen
She came back.
jordan holmes
She's the one who made all planes disappear.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
If a plane has disappeared...
It's Amelia Earhart.
dan friesen
She's responsible for the Devil's Triangle?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Everybody knows this.
dan friesen
This has as much legs.
jordan holmes
Why hasn't her body been found, huh?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you why.
Still hijacking planes.
unidentified
Why hasn't a lot of the Malaysian planes still been found?
jordan holmes
That's because Amelia Earhart is great at hiding things.
unidentified
She ate it.
dan friesen
My point that I want to make on Alex's theory is that the idea that it is a hijacking, reasonable.
Totally reasonable.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That part's fine.
jordan holmes
Obvious.
dan friesen
The added sort of fondant on the cake of...
Yeah, don't raise your eyebrows at me.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
I'm going with you.
dan friesen
I've watched the Learning Channel.
jordan holmes
I'm going.
dan friesen
So that part, that added bonus part that you can't eat and is disgusting is...
jordan holmes
I've never had it.
dan friesen
You're not supposed to eat the fondant.
It's decorative.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
But anyway...
jordan holmes
I don't traverse in the fancy parties that you go to.
dan friesen
I've just seen people on television say you're not supposed to eat it.
I have no idea.
I don't like cake.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Who got off on this fondant tangent and you're done?
dan friesen
It's a foolish expectation that if something is being done, like, if something is real, then nothing will be done after it.
If something is fake by this shadowy organization, Then they will be ready to push something.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That doesn't, like...
jordan holmes
It doesn't make any sense.
dan friesen
No.
You need a lot more groundwork, or else...
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Like fondant.
dan friesen
Yes, much like that.
You need a cake underneath it.
But Alex, he's pitched this hijacking idea, and now he starts to, in this next clip, immediately sort of waffle on it a little bit.
alex jones
And that's what a real hijacking does, especially when Hezbollah-type connected groups are involved.
That's Iranian-connected groups.
They get on the airplane, and they fly it into the water.
Now, it could have been the plane just went down.
It could have been it's a coincidence these guys are on board.
I don't know.
There's also a lot of suspicious tech people on board.
But my gut tells me it's a hijack.
jordan holmes
Are all tech people suspicious?
dan friesen
He thinks we're heading for a technocracy.
Of course, there's a lot of really suspicious people.
jordan holmes
These particular tech guys were suspicious?
dan friesen
Yeah, but I mean, there we go.
jordan holmes
They were the ones who made the Iranian guys fake passports.
dan friesen
This is Alex in 2014 and the complete difference from Alex Jones today.
Alex would never say, I don't know.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
He would never be like, listen, there's possible things, but I don't know.
jordan holmes
That's the thing about carrying water, is you always have to know something.
dan friesen
You have to have a source.
jordan holmes
You have to.
Whereas if you're just covering basic news, you can not know shit.
Who cares?
And then there's the fact that even, you know, nobody knows what happened to the Malaysian plane.
dan friesen
Well, dead men tell no tales.
jordan holmes
Right, like Amelia Earhart.
dan friesen
She's a woman.
Dead women tell tales.
jordan holmes
Is that how that works?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That's our new stereotype for women?
dan friesen
Seances.
Anyway, we're in a weird...
We've started weird.
But we have now played a couple of clips.
jordan holmes
Is that pretty much all of his coverage of the Malaysian airline?
dan friesen
Boy, it's most of it.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Things go off the rails pretty hard.
And in this next clip...
jordan holmes
Where can you go?
dan friesen
Well, he talks a lot more about how South by Southwest is trying to take your guns.
He's still on that tip.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
He gets into, and we're going to discuss it a bunch, how TV is evil.
Okay.
He rants about a bunch of nonsense, and then he ends with, and I don't mind spoiling this, because it's one of the greatest things I've ever seen in my life.
Longest commercial for his products that I have ever seen in all of my time watching InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Alright, I'm in.
dan friesen
It's so crazy.
jordan holmes
I'm in.
dan friesen
To the point where, back then, he was only on the radio for the first three hours.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then the signal would drop.
And whatever he was broadcasting, he could only broadcast online.
jordan holmes
Oh, I did not know that.
dan friesen
So he...
Fills the last 20 minutes or so of his show.
jordan holmes
Of the three hours.
dan friesen
Yeah, talking about his supplements to the point where they have to go off the air and then continue.
jordan holmes
No, no!
dan friesen
He then ends up, because he was saying.
jordan holmes
So there's literally just like a, like he's in the middle of his commercial and then the signal just cuts out.
dan friesen
They just go to break and then he comes back and like, we're in overdrive.
jordan holmes
All right, all right, I'm in.
dan friesen
There's just 40 more minutes.
jordan holmes
Forty more minutes!
dan friesen
In Overdrive, where he takes phone calls from people about the Malaysian plane, and none of them have any good theories.
It's terrible.
But, okay, we've laid out the syllabus of what's to come, but now we've got to get down to the meat.
My man, this next clip, we're going back to episode two of our podcast.
We're going back to something that came from Y2K, from the Y2K episode.
A little place, a very special place.
In Colorado.
jordan holmes
No!
alex jones
I sit here in stacks of news every day for 19 years.
Anyone that did this would be informed.
unidentified
Catherine Harris, Fox News Channel.
Thanks for taking my question.
Will the Utah Data Center hold the data of American citizens?
No.
Part one.
jordan holmes
They did.
unidentified
Well, I can't go into all the details of the Utah Data Center.
alex jones
That's Alexander.
unidentified
We don't hold data on U.S. citizens.
alex jones
The head.
jordan holmes
They do and did.
alex jones
Of cybersecurity, that's the Pentagon branch of the Northcom domestic spy grid, that's just already operating completely illegally.
They're trying to pass the cybersecurity legislation.
It's operating in plain view since the early 1980s under cyber command.
At Space Command in Colorado.
jordan holmes
Space Command!
alex jones
Space Command runs everything with NASA corporately above it as an executive branch creation.
That's the shadow government.
So it's Space Command nexus with the public face NASA and their interstellar programs that are classified.
They're really freaking out, folks, when I talk about this stuff, by the way.
Most of it I've gotten from sources.
Other, I've reverse-engineered their program.
And it's unbelievable.
They've already gone...
I could even get into it.
I just cannot believe how screwed we are.
The general public has no idea what's even going on.
The globalists are trying to start a war with Russia.
I'm not saying Russia's good.
I'm not saying Putin's good.
The West is starting it.
jordan holmes
He is now.
dan friesen
Well, the fun...
Okay, the real fun there is Space Command runs everything.
jordan holmes
Space Command returns!
Space Command is the secret...
Behind NASA.
So NASA's the public face, and they're like, we're gonna go to space, and we wanna go to Mars, and let's send all this stuff.
And Space Command is like, let's start a war with Russia.
dan friesen
Space Command.
This is 2014, 15 years after the Y2K episode.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's still on Space Command.
jordan holmes
Now I wonder how many times has Space Command come up in the intervening years?
dan friesen
I mean, we're going to find out.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, I will document every time.
jordan holmes
It has to come out quite a bit.
dan friesen
Right.
But the other thing is that the context of what's going on in March of 2014 is that Putin had invaded Crimea.
That was why people were mad at Russia at that point.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Now we're all cool with it.
Yeah.
He's saying the globalists wanted to start war with Russia.
Maybe some people did want to be like, hey, don't invade.
Don't invade your neighbors.
jordan holmes
That's straight from the Bible.
That's what that is.
dan friesen
It's kind of a big thing geopolitically.
jordan holmes
Don't cover your neighbor's wife and also don't annex his home.
dan friesen
Sure.
Don't.
Even if the people there are like, hey, we're ethnically Russian.
It's not your country.
jordan holmes
Not a good idea.
Also, did he say interstellar programs that were classified?
dan friesen
Classified interstellar programs.
unidentified
Does he know what interstellar means?
dan friesen
I have no evidence for or contrary.
jordan holmes
Well, that means...
dan friesen
Within stars?
Between stars?
jordan holmes
Between stars.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That's...
Look, that's a long way away.
dan friesen
We're going to stars.
jordan holmes
We're not going to stars?
We are, man.
dan friesen
You gotta fucking watch some of this Project Camelot shit.
jordan holmes
When did Interstellar, the movie, come out?
dan friesen
2014, I imagine.
jordan holmes
Ah, there we go.
There it is.
dan friesen
Space Command!
jordan holmes
Space Command!
dan friesen
They're responsible for Interstellar as a movie because it's predictive programming.
unidentified
Right, right.
jordan holmes
It's getting all of us to believe that we can travel between the stars.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But, you know, before we can reach the stars, we have to shake off the shackles of the programming that has infested our brains and our souls.
Alex Jones has some thoughts here about the downfall of humanity.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Coming from a very high place where we used to eat dinner together.
jordan holmes
We did!
unidentified
To now what we have become.
alex jones
And so imagine the animation.
They're all sitting around the table.
They're outside playing.
Kids are on their bikes.
They're building forts.
They're looking at the stars.
They're fishing in the creek.
They're kissing a girl for the first time when they're 12. They're getting in a fist fight.
They're living.
They're humans.
And now, within years, within just a few years, suddenly everyone has a television set.
It's a sign of status if you have two television sets by 1955.
You're suddenly living around the television.
You're suddenly getting home.
You're now not in the real world.
You're entering the proto-matrix.
dan friesen
I don't disagree with him that TVs are kind of shitty.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If that's his theory.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Who the fuck knows?
dan friesen
I think the more important thing...
jordan holmes
I'm not going to beat Gil Wally on everybody and we're all going to be fat sitting in, you know...
Arm and legless chambers.
dan friesen
I think the more important thing to take away from that is even three years ago, and clearly it's just a consistent piece of his sort of ethos, is that the ways you become a human, you kiss girls, you fist fight, and you look at the stars.
jordan holmes
Also, fishing in a creek.
dan friesen
Fishing in a creek!
Gotta do it!
You ever had a crawdad?
You ever had a crawdad?
jordan holmes
Come on, man!
dan friesen
I've caught crawdaddies by hand, my friend!
jordan holmes
You get a little crawdad and you are all set.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
That's exactly how he replaced his father's love.
dan friesen
With crawdaddies?
jordan holmes
With the crawfather's love.
dan friesen
You know, it's possible.
It's possible.
But, you know, here's the thing.
He's talking about TVs and basically they take over your life.
And he's basically saying that they can hypnotize you.
But let me tell you this.
jordan holmes
Okay, are we going full 1984 levels right here?
dan friesen
I'm not sure how far we're going, but I want to say this.
TVs aren't the only thing that can hypnotize.
You know what else, Cam?
jordan holmes
Mesmer from the 1960s.
dan friesen
Alex fucking Jones.
unidentified
No shit!
alex jones
Suddenly, they all gravitate around the television.
The flicker rate designed and picked.
In animal and human studies, to put you into a suggestible, hypnotized, suspended disbelief, false reality.
This is literally the key.
People are in a trance.
I can't state that enough.
That's it.
That's why they're so dumb.
That's why you can't get through to them.
unidentified
That's why they're so suggestible.
alex jones
I don't even try to be manipulative now, and I can just walk directly up to police and basically start programming them.
I can walk up to women and start programming.
Start talking to them, literally using basic systems that they use in television, and the people literally go back into trances, and I'm not even a hypnotist, and I've never even studied it.
unidentified
You don't need to see his identification.
Alex Jones is a Jedi!
jordan holmes
Alex Jones will be starring in the next Star Wars film, The Last Jedi!
And loves the movie Interstellar.
alex jones
They actually live in the real world, see what's going on.
They're not watching a lot of television.
They're having to interact with people.
They're having to deal with all sorts of crises constantly.
And so that's why I say police are more awake than anybody in the country, on average, except for the military.
And the military is awake because they've seen the corruption.
They've seen arms and legs blown off.
They've seen dead kids.
They've seen the bid rigging.
dan friesen
But, like, so he's saying that he can hypnotize anybody and just tap into their programming.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's nonsense.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
He can.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
But his secondary thesis there is that...
jordan holmes
That's why he kept his kids.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
He hypnotized that judge.
jordan holmes
He hypnotized that judge.
Or maybe that's why he lost his kids.
dan friesen
Because he's hypnotizing those kids.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
And his wife can fucking tell.
But, like, he goes on and he's like, the police and the military...
They're more awake.
jordan holmes
Right, because they see dead bodies all the time.
dan friesen
Well, that's one theory.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
The other theory is Alex Jones knows good goddamn and well that his demographic is largely police and military, and he knows not to insult them.
So he says everybody else is stupid, but just so happens that the people that tend to like my show are way smarter than everybody else.
jordan holmes
It's weird.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's weird how smart the people who watch the show is.
Also, if you're...
dan friesen
You know, when everybody's fucking stupid, except the people who donate to our show.
It's bizarre.
jordan holmes
I don't know why.
For $10 a month, we can also talk about other police.
dan friesen
I just don't know why it is that there's such a weird one-to-one comparison of people who donate money to us and not idiots.
I don't know why there is just that relation.
I have no idea.
unidentified
It's crazy.
dan friesen
It's fucking strange.
jordan holmes
It's absolutely nuts.
dan friesen
We'll probably never know why that is the case, but I've read studies.
jordan holmes
Yeah?
dan friesen
Yeah, I have.
I've read white papers about it, and people who give me money are fucking brilliant, but everyone else is so dumb.
jordan holmes
Well, that's because, and I don't like revealing this on the show, this should be an off-air conversation.
dan friesen
Okay.
Are you sure?
jordan holmes
You can tap into their programming, right?
dan friesen
I can hypnotize people.
unidentified
I knew it!
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
I knew it!
dan friesen
Yeah, why do you think you're here?
jordan holmes
This isn't how I act off air!
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I'm a regular person out there.
I'm not angry.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
jordan holmes
You're hypnotizing me now.
dan friesen
I'm giving you the evil cross-eyed.
jordan holmes
You son...
dan friesen
So, Alex is a hypnotist, but he uses his powers for good.
He hates the Matrix.
jordan holmes
I'm glad.
I'm glad he does.
Also, does he...
So, this whole...
This whole idea, the whole good old days narrative, is, like, does he think people were smarter before TV?
Because he just said people have only gotten dumber and dumber.
So does he think that before TV, everyone was just walking around with this advanced knowledge?
Like, the interstellar program was actually paused.
Because of TV.
That's what's really going on.
dan friesen
Well, like back when people would just go down to the creek.
And go fishing and stare at the stars.
Everyone was geniuses.
Before education and stuff, everyone was brilliant.
jordan holmes
Now, it's all these pencil necks with their TVs and their education.
Chicken necks.
unidentified
I apologize.
jordan holmes
I'm using my colloquial terms.
Which I learned from being raised by crawdads.
dan friesen
You had two crawdads, though.
jordan holmes
Which Alex would not like at all.
dan friesen
You know, that whole fucking accepting two crawdads thing.
It's just social programming.
jordan holmes
It wasn't until the Supreme Court legalized crawdad relationships.
dan friesen
Crawdad, crawdad relations?
unidentified
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
But Alex, you know, he just thinks that it's part of the conditioning and it's part of this matrix that we're in.
And Alex has some thoughts about the matrix.
jordan holmes
Because he watched the matrix.
dan friesen
Yes.
And then he says something incredibly dumb.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And I realize...
That everything is about getting people to take the red pill and just for themselves see what's around them.
You're never going to tell them about it.
They've got to see it.
What did Morpheus say to Neo?
One cannot be told about the Matrix.
And by the way, all I'm offering is the truth before you take that red pill.
You say you're taking it.
All I'm offering is the truth.
But I've got to tell you, folks.
It's like weightlifting.
I'm getting back into weightlifting, getting back into shape.
It just feels so good.
And when I get like dumbbells.
jordan holmes
It's a lot like whatever I'm doing on that day.
alex jones
20-pound dumbbells on a bench press are heavier than 60, 70, 100-pound dumbbells.
Because I'm not used to lifting a light weight from muscle memory 20 years ago.
I'm used to lifting a heavy weight.
And it's the same thing.
It's like an atmosphere.
It's like a plant.
That isn't in the wind, that isn't in the rain, will not thrive.
A plant that's in the wind and rain will grow and thrive from the pressure.
What do they say?
Pain is weakness leaving the body.
Well, it's the same thing mentally.
You're meant to be in the real world.
Your ancestors, folks, drove mastodons off cliffs.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
They drove mastodons off cliffs.
jordan holmes
We need to get back to that time when everybody...
dan friesen
Sure.
They also couldn't write.
jordan holmes
They could draw.
They could draw about how they drove mastodons off cliffs.
dan friesen
Some of them.
jordan holmes
That's how we got to the stars.
dan friesen
But, yeah, the people who say pain is weakness leaving the body, first of all, are blowhard assholes, or they're a gym shirt.
Those are the people who say that.
jordan holmes
Well, and that's, again, we're back at his base right there.
And also that red pill thing is the...
Bullshit men's activists.
Or men's right assholes.
dan friesen
It's the big community.
jordan holmes
It's the fucking...
What?
The Trump voters.
It's the white supremacists.
It's the Gamergate fuckheads.
This is all dudes.
This is all fucking dudes.
All of the...
I used to lift 60 pound, 100 pound, 100 pound, 100 pound dumbbells.
dan friesen
That's why I can't lift lightweights now.
jordan holmes
That's why I can't lift lightweights.
dan friesen
Yeah, but also, I mean, it's been pointed out...
jordan holmes
I can chase a mastodon off a cliff, though.
dan friesen
It's been pointed out a fucking hundred times, but the whole red pill mythology does come from the Matrix, a movie made by trans women, and is being co-opted by...
Fake news!
jordan holmes
They weren't trans at the time, and as we all know, the only reason they did that was as a fuck you.
dan friesen
TV!
jordan holmes
They were hypnotized!
dan friesen
The other thing, I was thinking about this red pill idea quite a bit lately, and I realized that our society really took a wrong turn when a bunch of people realized that they could present being tricked as being red pilled.
You know what I mean?
Alex is tricking people.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Most of these online communities that are about men's rights and any sorts of things are tricking people into falling into their worldview.
They're not opening up anybody's eyes to truth or reality or, oh, you're in a matrix, man.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
If there's any community of people who are actually doing that, and I'm not saying this with, like, whole cloth, broadly speaking.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Maybe.
unidentified
Maybe.
dan friesen
Some of these DMT folk, maybe.
jordan holmes
I think what we're seeing with the red pill stuff is just yet another justification for doing what you already wanted to do.
dan friesen
Right, but the idea of it is not just, I have taken a red pill, it's getting others to do it too.
It's evangelical in nature.
And the idea is tricking people.
It's almost like an intellectual pyramid scheme.
Like, you don't get much out of it unless you get other people.
To fall in line with your ideas.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or else you're, I mean.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like, let's say religion.
dan friesen
Well, one men's rights activist alone isn't, like, that's a sad looking dude.
That's, all of them are.
jordan holmes
They're all sad dudes.
dan friesen
Right, but if they have a community wherein they become an echo chamber for themselves, then they can talk shit on women all they want.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They can do like, oh yeah, you know, men are really the victims in society and shit like that.
And they have sounding boards they can go off of.
That's why they need to evangelize.
Because just standing alone and saying that is like, well, I hope your apartment's well decorated.
jordan holmes
I mean, but that's any collective community entirely, though.
Like, even small towns have that same echo chamber of, like, isn't it so great to live in a small town?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And everybody just keeps pinging it back and forth across each other.
And that's what corrals people into those small towns.
dan friesen
The problem is, in that case, some parts of it are great.
Some parts of small town living are fantastic.
jordan holmes
I'm sure some parts of being a men's rights activist are great.
You have all those dudes.
You get to hang out with dudes all day.
You know how great it is hanging out with a shit ton of sweaty, angry, mis-fucking-aligned monstrous dudes?
dan friesen
Not thrilled with it.
jordan holmes
Haven't you ever had the joy of going to a gym room?
A gym room.
dan friesen
I've been to a gym room.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You've had the joy of watching that dude grunt and scream and then high-five his bros because, oh.
dan friesen
It's not great.
jordan holmes
It's the best.
dan friesen
You know what is the best, though?
jordan holmes
What is the best?
dan friesen
Back when we used to go to church.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
That was the best.
jordan holmes
I remember back when I used to go to church.
dan friesen
Wasn't it the best?
jordan holmes
It was the best.
I loved it.
dan friesen
This next clip, as someone who's gone to a lot of church, and I'm sure you're in the same boat.
A lot of church.
This is not a great sermon.
But it is a sermon.
It's somewhere between a sermon and fucking Alex Jones trying to hype a match at the next pay-per-view between himself and the devil.
And it's a little long.
But I want it to play all the way through.
jordan holmes
That's actually kind of a great sermon.
I would much rather have had my pastor go up there and be like, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday!
unidentified
If you want to see a fight between me and the devil, let you know I have the Lord on my side!
jordan holmes
I will pin him in three moves!
Or I'm thinking he's going to play chess with death.
I'm not sure which one.
dan friesen
The prior is closer to what Alex is about to do.
And I'm going to say, mic down on this one and just let it ride.
Because this is fucking crazy.
And I want to say, in the middle of this, on the screen, they flash up the Wikipedia page for Satan.
So, like, as a reference.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
Good, good, good, good.
dan friesen
In the middle of it, while he's yelling about the devil, they just flashed the Wikipedia for the devil.
jordan holmes
You know how great that is?
Because you can't really flash up any verses of the Bible wherein they talk about the devil.
dan friesen
Not really.
Anyway, here we go.
alex jones
We are being sucked in to the dehumanizing evil and the animation.
The animation that I want people to come up with.
dan friesen
I'm sorry.
I forgot I had to interrupt because I forgot to set it up totally correctly.
He's also wanting people to draw an animation.
He wants a cartoon.
jordan holmes
He wants other people to do...
dan friesen
Yeah, he's doing a contest, but he's very lackluster about pitching it, so I have to explain.
He wants people to do, like, draw a cartoon of this, and he's describing it, and that's where he loses his shit.
unidentified
Okay.
You don't have to have a contest.
alex jones
People pay people $10,000 even though it's great.
You should do it for humanity.
Do it for art.
That's how we'll defeat the tyrants.
jordan holmes
Do it for free!
alex jones
It's giving the human art, the human spirit expression to jam the culture wave of the mind control that would have to take our free will, dumb us down, and put us in a trance to control us.
That is the ultimate sin against free will.
God gives us free will.
The enemy, the devil, the deceiver, the accuser.
Behind me, Satan.
What does Satan do?
Gets in front of you on our road to the stars.
Satan gets in front of human development.
Satan only gives us mutated technologies and mutated systems that control us and dumb us down in an attempt.
To play God and build an artificial system to predict the future.
The devil doesn't have omnipresence.
The devil is trying to use humans made in the image of God to build a God machine to be able to understand the future and decipher everything.
The devil only knows how to con people and manipulate people because he is a magician.
He is a deceiver.
He is a fraud.
He is a lie.
He is not one one trillionth what the creator is.
To hell with the devil!
Straight to the pit with Satan!
Down with Satan in the name of Jesus Christ!
unidentified
Get behind me, Satan!
alex jones
Down with the devil!
Down with the fraud!
Get out of the road!
unidentified
Get behind me!
Move, bitch!
alex jones
You understand that?
Get out of the road, New World Order!
Get out of my mind!
Get out of my free will!
Get out of my way!
Humanity is going interstellar.
And this great challenge of the devil and the smartphones and the NSA and the culture destroying and the chemicals in the water and the war on the family.
It's all coming down.
It's all going down.
It's the test.
We're going through the fire.
In, through, and beyond.
In the animating contest of liberty.
The devil doesn't give you the animating contest.
The devil lies and tells you that he gave you what God gave you.
God gave you your gifts.
God gave you your power.
The devil lies and says, sell your soul to me and I will give you gifts.
The devil will do nothing but pervert the gifts of the creator.
We are made, think about that, in the image of the master builder, the supreme architect of the universe.
And idiots will go, that's almost sonic.
No, the Bible says the heavens...
Are the handiwork, the signature.
Of course they are.
All of it.
This whole creation.
And we are made in the image and the likeness in our mind, in our body, in our form of the supreme entity.
That has built the entire interdimensional system that our minds cannot even begin to imagine.
And the devil has a good idea of that and the devil wants that because the devil is never a maker.
The devil is a taker and a twister and a counterfeiter from the beginning and a fraud.
With a false light of black sunshine.
And I've got a lot of news to cover, but...
dan friesen
Did you hear that at the end?
jordan holmes
I got a lot of news to cover.
I got a lot to get through there.
dan friesen
Four minutes, he screams about the devil, and they're like, I got a lot of news to get over here.
You know what that is?
That's, I gotta fill time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I got no idea what happened to this Malaysian plane.
jordan holmes
What is he fucking talking about, either?
He's talking about the animation content.
dan friesen
Well, here's the problem.
Because there's two things at play here.
There is a contest that he's trying to run, because he's saying, I shouldn't have to give $10,000, you should do this for free, for creativity.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he's talking about an animation that he wants.
jordan holmes
Which, if you are a graphic designer, you hear a lot.
dan friesen
But if you're also...
He does this all the time, and he still does this to this day.
He talks about the animating contest of liberty.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And it's what makes us alive.
So he...
Like animating as opposed to us not being...
jordan holmes
Automatons of the like.
dan friesen
Right, right.
And so he's talking about an animation contest, but also talking about the animating contest of Liberty.
jordan holmes
That's a lot going on.
dan friesen
It's tough.
jordan holmes
He's asking animation contests to mean a lot all at the same time.
dan friesen
So now if we want to parse that down, God created us in his image.
jordan holmes
In his own image.
Which is how we know he's a man.
Because he never would have created a woman in his own image.
dan friesen
The devil wants what we have.
He wants to make a god machine in order to tell the future.
jordan holmes
That's what I would do.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
If I was the devil?
That's the main goal.
And how would you do that?
Smartphones.
dan friesen
Destroy the family.
jordan holmes
The NSA.
Killing crawdads.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
The whole thing.
Problem solved.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean...
jordan holmes
He's trying to steal the power that God gave you.
dan friesen
Right.
The devil is.
unidentified
Do we have a reason for that?
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Like, does he have a goal?
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
Like, his goal is to create a God machine, right?
dan friesen
Because he wants to know the future.
jordan holmes
What's the end game there?
dan friesen
He wants to know the future so he can control the present.
Or something like that.
But that's what he thinks.
I mean, it's not really about a literal devil, even though he is yelling about the devil.
It's all about the globalists.
jordan holmes
Right.
No, that's a good point.
The globalists want to create a god machine.
dan friesen
It's just a convoluted metaphor when he's screaming about biblical scripture and the literal devil.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It really comes down to, that's a lot of fun, and he's losing it.
But it's just filling time.
He's not saying anything.
And it's bad.
If I went to church and someone was yelling that, I'd be like, gotta tiptoe out of here.
jordan holmes
I'd be like, this is a great church.
dan friesen
I've never seen any pastor lose it like that, but thankfully...
jordan holmes
You've never seen some of the guys who handle snakes, though.
dan friesen
I've seen videos.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but I mean, I went to a church that had that.
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Did you get bit?
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
Oh, okay.
unidentified
That's good.
jordan holmes
I got bit by the Wolfschmidt, but that was a whole different thing.
dan friesen
So Alex screams about the devil, and thankfully he gets the we're going to break sign, and he goes to break.
jordan holmes
Right.
He's got a lot of news to cover.
dan friesen
He comes back from break a little bit introspective about his rants, and then it quickly turns bigoted.
alex jones
I realize why I come in here and rant sometimes and start preaching.
I look at all this news and it's so insane and it's so scientifically being deployed on record.
If people would just wake up and see it, it would all be over.
jordan holmes
Wake it up.
alex jones
But people have been eased in from birth into the lie, into the fraud, and it's basically all they know now.
A major feminist group, which is...
Sure, sure, sure!
jordan holmes
Why not?
alex jones
Have come out and said they want to ban the word bossy because it's associated with women henpecking.
Well, women are supposed to be bossy with their children.
They're not supposed to be bossy with their men.
And they're never happy when they are bossy.
But men are supposed to act like men as well, so I don't blame women.
But feminist control freaks want to ban the word bossy, campaign backed by banks, oil companies, and transnational corporations.
Sure, that makes sense.
The World Bank is sponsoring South by Southwest, one of the main sponsors, and they are sponsoring Bloomberg and a move to ban our guns.
That piece of filth came here, and that's why we're going to have an open carry armed march.
There's an article up on Infowars.com.
dan friesen
So there he gets into his march a little bit there at the end, just to give you guys a little flavor of that.
But yeah, so he's just pissed off about the world, so he gets into these rants, but these feminists.
jordan holmes
They're actually anti-feminine.
dan friesen
Anti-feminine.
jordan holmes
Anti-feminine!
dan friesen
See, now this is actually a really interesting example of some feminist push that Alex is mad about.
Because it's one of the ones that I can really understand what they're saying a lot better.
And Alex is missing it entirely.
So basically...
alex jones
What?
dan friesen
So, the whole thing about, like, you know, Beyonce had that campaign about, you know, the word bossy being sort of negative.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That is a great example.
jordan holmes
Well, that's why Tim Allen is off the air now.
That's the worst.
unidentified
That's the worst, Tim Allen!
dan friesen
I don't know.
I never watched Home Improvement.
I don't fucking care.
jordan holmes
No, it's the new show that just got canceled.
dan friesen
But that...
Line is from the old home group.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no, I know.
dan friesen
The new show got canceled because he's a conservative.
jordan holmes
Makes sense.
dan friesen
Didn't.
jordan holmes
I buy it.
dan friesen
The budget was way too high.
His salary was ridiculous.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
Conservatives.
Can't have different voices on ABC.
It's got to be because of the feminists.
dan friesen
But to this point about the feminists, I hear a campaign like that, and what I hear is, I don't enjoy it when you use this kind of language.
It makes me feel bad.
That's what I hear.
And my response to it is, that makes sense.
Alright.
No big deal.
I'll just, you know, change my behavior a little bit out of courtesy.
No big deal.
I just won't call you bossy.
If that is like a, you know, a gendered insult that people throw around and I'm not sensitive to it because I'm not a woman and maybe your experience is different.
jordan holmes
That's how I hear it.
All I'm saying is Alex Jones needs a safe space where he doesn't experience these things.
If I knew that, you know, what we should have done is had a trigger warning to let him know that we were going to be saying the word bossy.
Because I know he would be really angry there.
I love his angle on it.
Women are never happy when they're bossy.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You know, it's not what they're supposed to.
You know, women are only happy when they're doing what they're supposed to do.
dan friesen
They're not supposed to boss their men around.
But men aren't men.
jordan holmes
No.
Men need to act like men.
dan friesen
Yeah, they need to hit women more or something, I guess.
Back in the good old days or something.
But you understand the difference between my perspective on it and how Alex interprets it?
He interprets it as they're trying to outlaw this word.
They're trying to ban this word.
They're trying to take away my ability to say things.
Free speech!
jordan holmes
Free speech!
dan friesen
You can still say it, but...
jordan holmes
First Amendment!
dan friesen
You can still say it, but once people have alerted you to the fact that it doesn't make them feel good, now you've just got to wrestle with the fact that you're choosing to make people not feel good.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, I hate it when people tell me not to use racial slurs.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
It's horrible.
jordan holmes
What kind of asshole gets angry?
Alex!
Fine, fine.
Don't use the word bossy because that has a connotation of you're often telling women you're acting bad for the way that I think you should.
dan friesen
How I think women should.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So the word bossy, when used in that regard, means, you know...
It means that you're supposed to be subjugated.
dan friesen
Well, and Alex's analysis of, you know, women are never happy when they're bossy, they shouldn't boss their men around.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It shows that that's where his head is.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I mean...
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, women should never boss men around.
dan friesen
No. 1 Timothy 2.11.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Let a woman learn in all submissiveness.
I permit no woman to have authority over man, for Adam was created before Eve.
dan friesen
Suck it, Alex Jones.
We just quoted scripture.
jordan holmes
Yeah, which you apparently cannot do.
dan friesen
You can give the broad strokes, though, and that's important.
jordan holmes
We will be putting that scripture up on Knowledge Fight so you guys can confirm for yourself.
dan friesen
No, we're going to get shirts.
New shirts.
unidentified
Instead of John 3.16, people are holding 1 Timothy 2.11 shirts up.
dan friesen
So speaking of...
jordan holmes
It is fun for me how little...
These assholes who call themselves Christians.
Like, if you're gonna be a men's rights activist, wouldn't that be the first Bible verse you put up, right?
That's my justification.
I have the Bible behind me.
I'm a Christian.
I have that stuff.
dan friesen
You would think.
jordan holmes
They do not read the Bible at all!
None at all!
unidentified
Well...
jordan holmes
Because if you read the Bible, you kind of stop believing in the Bible.
dan friesen
They're too busy being sucked in by TVs.
unidentified
Yeah, well...
dan friesen
So before we add all this technology, though...
Alex Jones used to get information the old school way.
jordan holmes
Pony Express?
dan friesen
There's similarities.
I'll let him explain.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And I was reading it out of a technology publication that somebody mailed me.
Before it was in CBS News, NBC News, a few years before, and people said I was a liar.
And I was on air with the Biotech Technology magazine, because I used to have listeners.
They still do it, but back then it was precious because the web wasn't very big.
They would send me publications.
Hey, here's MIT publication.
Hey, here's Stanford publication.
Hey, here, it's a lot more serious.
Hey, I'm an engineer at UT.
Come on down.
And I would be let in, you know.
And they go, oh, you didn't see this, and punch a button, and it'd be hundreds of monkeys with wires in their brains with television sets brainwashing them.
I just don't even know what to tell people anymore.
dan friesen
I don't even know what to tell people anymore.
unidentified
Clearly.
jordan holmes
Clearly.
dan friesen
So he goes down to UT.
jordan holmes
He goes down to UT.
unidentified
Look, that is a bad experiment.
jordan holmes
I don't understand why you would do that experiment.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
I don't understand what the goal of that experiment would be, to figure out...
dan friesen
Watch monkeys, watch TV!
jordan holmes
But that would be pretty fun.
dan friesen
Yeah, so, I mean, I get it.
You don't know what to tell people anymore, but he goes down to UT.
jordan holmes
An engineer at UT.
dan friesen
Yes.
He pushes a button, and then there's hundreds of monkeys with wires in their brains.
jordan holmes
Did the button manifest the monkeys, or did it just raise some curtains?
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
jordan holmes
Was it just like...
To me, I see the blast shield doors, and he presses the button, and they all fly up, and you just see a shit ton of monkeys.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's entirely possible.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, if you put an infinite number of monkeys watching TV...
You get New Girl.
I don't know.
I don't know what reference to make there.
dan friesen
So he talks a little bit more about it.
I mean, we can get a little bit more insight into these monkeys.
You thought that was it.
No, it's not.
alex jones
I'm just trying to warn you folks.
unidentified
The television is a giant LED weapon system.
alex jones
It's so advanced.
They got a monkey farm in Bastrop, folks.
They do all sorts of testing on great apes, rhesus monkeys, the whole nine yards.
jordan holmes
That's how we got chimeras.
With their human eyes just watching TV and crying.
alex jones
I've seen it.
unidentified
Over closed circuit television.
alex jones
It was punched up.
In a DARPA facility.
The labs are funded by DARPA.
jordan holmes
I thought it was at UT.
alex jones
And let me tell you, they're training to fuck.
God, I can't handle it.
I almost started cussing.
Excuse me.
Folks, it's getting to me.
And I'm realizing that half measures are not going to defeat this operation.
jordan holmes
We need twice as many monkeys as they have.
alex jones
They have got thousands of monkeys at facilities all over the world.
They have hundreds at this facility with wires in their brains in a 40-year program.
It just keeps going with flicker rates to mind control them and to test them to then deploy the weapon system against you.
Of course governments are going to do this.
dan friesen
So yeah, of course they're gonna do that.
jordan holmes
Of course!
Why wouldn't you?
If I were a government, that's the first thing I would do.
dan friesen
He made one unfortunate piece of information public in that sort of fucking rant or whatever it was.
And he said that...
jordan holmes
Fever dream is more like it.
dan friesen
Well, he was saying that it's in Bastrop, which is a town in Texas.
jordan holmes
I thought he said it was at UT or whatever.
No, no, that's where he pressed a button.
Right.
dan friesen
And then he said he saw it over closed circuit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There's a monkey ranch in Bastrop, which is a town in Texas.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Now I have looked into this.
jordan holmes
I want a monkey ranch so bad.
dan friesen
I've looked into this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There is a place called the Screaming Monkey Ranch.
And it's basically a bar.
jordan holmes
Wait!
What?
dan friesen
There's some outdoorsy shit to it, but I found their Facebook page, and it's mostly a tiki bar.
There's pictures of people drinking Gentleman's Jack.
There's a guy who looks like someone I know drinking at the bar.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but that's their public face.
How would you hide a monkey ranch?
You would make people think it was just a regular bar.
It's just a name.
You hide it in public.
It's in the white papers.
They're doing this program in front of everybody.
In front of you.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You're just hypnotized by the idea of bars.
dan friesen
There's only five star reviews.
One of my favorite places and some of my favorite people in the world.
That was from three months ago.
jordan holmes
NSA.
dan friesen
I love this unique ranch.
Good friends and great times.
jordan holmes
UT Engineers.
dan friesen
Tiki Bar at the Screaming Monkey Ranch.
Camp Swift.
jordan holmes
Men's rights activists.
dan friesen
They have an Instagram page.
jordan holmes
I don't believe in Instagram.
Fake news.
dan friesen
Fake news.
Looks like they have ceramic elephants, some goats, fake boats where people can drink.
Yeah, it looks very nefarious, and there's probably tons of torture experiments that are going on there.
He shouldn't have said Bastrop, because you can just Google that and find the Screaming Monkey Ranch, which is clearly what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
How big is fucking Bastrop?
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
dan friesen
Now, I guess, if you want to go, like, full crazy, which we might as well.
This is the podcast.
jordan holmes
This is where we are.
dan friesen
You know how in, like, Roswell, they have the novelty Roswell restaurants there?
Screaming Monkey Ranch could be a reference to how many monkeys scream at the, uh...
jordan holmes
Makes perfect sense to me.
dan friesen
At the actual research center.
Could be a joke name.
jordan holmes
If only it was a pizza place.
Then we'd know all about it.
dan friesen
Yeah, then we'd find out about their non-existent basement.
jordan holmes
Oh man, that's where they keep all the monkeys.
And the monkey pedophiles.
dan friesen
So, Bastrop seems on the up and up.
jordan holmes
Also a 40 year program?
dan friesen
Yeah, monkeys don't live that long.
jordan holmes
No, they don't live that long.
But what would you be doing for 40 years?
dan friesen
Also, if you're talking about monkeys, you're not.
You're talking about apes.
Just to be very specific.
jordan holmes
Nope, monkeys.
dan friesen
You're not going to get many great experiments on monkeys.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
Because chimpanzees are what you really want.
jordan holmes
Capuchins!
dan friesen
No, you don't want to experiment with capuchins.
unidentified
Capuchins!
jordan holmes
That's what they do!
They watch TV!
dan friesen
You don't want a bonobo.
That's an ape.
You don't want a gibbon.
jordan holmes
That's our second closest ancestor?
Or it's chimpanzees and bonobos are pretty much right on there?
dan friesen
They're super close.
jordan holmes
Which is the evolutionary theory of human beings.
Bonobos fuck a lot and chimpanzees will rip your face off.
And that's pretty much where we are.
dan friesen
Yep, we're somewhere in the middle.
So, I don't believe you, Alex.
And let's transition this to another thing I don't believe him about.
alex jones
Look at the Infowars.com articles.
Obama Surgeon General.
Pick.
Guns are public health issues.
See, England's about two steps ahead of us on this.
They're about five years ahead of us.
Here's the article from yesterday.
Doctors forced to become state snitches to spot radical parents.
And the mayor of London...
has called for anyone who's a nationalist or conservative to have their children taken.
This is mainstream news.
And by the way, they are taking them.
Visitors that come, especially from Eastern Europe, who have the babies they can sell for 300,000, 400,000 pounds, are having their kids taken at the airports for no reason.
There's now emergency advisories going out not to travel to England, because they will, the CPS will grab your children at the airport.
Or if you're seen yelling at your kids, your kids are gone.
They'll be in a Saudi dungeon being gang raped pretty quickly.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Now, continuing here.
dan friesen
Harsh.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
Harsh.
jordan holmes
So London is taking your kids away and sending them to Saudi dungeons?
dan friesen
They're selling them, yeah.
They're selling your kids.
jordan holmes
Dude, I'm...
unidentified
Look.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying that I have a tour browser for this reason.
I am saying that I'm sure you can buy a kid for a lot cheaper than that.
dan friesen
$300,000?
jordan holmes
Oh, way cheaper.
dan friesen
I don't even want to engage that line of thinking.
jordan holmes
Nope, way cheaper.
dan friesen
It's too horrifying.
jordan holmes
Let me tell you something.
Human life is not as expensive as you might think.
dan friesen
No, you can just make it.
It turns out.
jordan holmes
The gestation period is too long.
dan friesen
The very...
jordan holmes
Oh, monkey.
unidentified
Doesn't take as long.
dan friesen
The very idea, though.
The very idea.
That if you yell at your kids at the airport, they're going to take them and sell them.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Nonsense.
jordan holmes
No, that makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Absolute nonsense.
jordan holmes
Because if you're in the airport, right, and you're a fine, upstanding citizen, you know, and your kids this one time apparently have not made you mad enough to yell at them, you look at those parents yelling at their kids and you're like, oh, somebody should take those kids away and sell them!
dan friesen
I've seen parents hit their kids in public in the airport.
No, but in public and at the airport.
jordan holmes
I was hit in public.
dan friesen
Well, and I've seen people not do anything about it.
Even security guards and shit.
jordan holmes
Nobody help me out.
dan friesen
No.
So, who cares?
That's fucking stupid.
jordan holmes
It's fucking stupid.
dan friesen
The thing I want to more point out, though, is in comparison to his modern tone, he's not saying things that are different.
Like, he's still saying that your kids are going to get snatched up.
And sent to dungeons and what have you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
He's still saying that same stuff, but his tone is so different.
Now he's like, and this he's just like, they're going to end up in a Saudi dungeon.
jordan holmes
It is very matter of fact.
dan friesen
It's flippant.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's harsh and flippant.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
dan friesen
I don't enjoy it.
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
dan friesen
It's a little different.
I like to note these differences between current Alex and past Alex.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Especially when he's saying the same things, but now everything is so black and white, whereas before, I don't believe he believes that.
jordan holmes
No.
Well, he's kind of on...
I would say, from what we've done as far as our previous time travel episodes, this is kind of autopilot.
Alex Jones, to me.
Like, he's been doing the show for 19 years at this point, and he's just kind of got his...
He's in his, like, little flow there.
And now, we're seeing him taken completely out of that 20-year flow.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
And he is always under attack.
He's hitched his wagon to the worst president in history.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I was like, eh, you know...
Before Trump was elected, I even did a bit about it where the worst president in history was Andrew Jackson.
And now it's like, nope!
Unequivocally, Trump is the single worst president in the history of the United States.
dan friesen
With a nice Andrew Jackson fetish, no less.
jordan holmes
Well, if you're going to pick one, you might as well go whole hog.
dan friesen
Right.
If you're going to be number one, you might as well admire number two.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
That's why I admire Pol Pot.
dan friesen
He was a great co-host.
jordan holmes
I just don't have the power.
dan friesen
He was a great podcast co-host.
jordan holmes
He was amazing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this next clip is sort of a demonstration.
jordan holmes
It was him and Ed McMahon for the...
unidentified
Hi-yo!
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Killing Fields!
Oh, fuck me.
So...
As I sort of referenced, I think that last clip demonstrates...
unidentified
Very different Publishers Clearinghouse at your door.
dan friesen
So that last clip...
jordan holmes
I want to go on this Pol Pot reference for forever.
dan friesen
I'm done with it.
I'm fucking done with it.
Forever.
jordan holmes
I'm going to interrupt you 20 more times in a row.
dan friesen
Fucking try.
jordan holmes
Hey, listen.
We got to get to this next thing.
dan friesen
You're an asshole.
jordan holmes
No, no, go ahead.
We got to get to this next thing.
I'm going to let you talk.
dan friesen
Can't interrupt that, which does not speak.
jordan holmes
You're taking my Taoist philosophy a little bit too far, okay?
dan friesen
That last clip, I believe, demonstrated something that is different about Alex in the past and the present.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This next clip is something that clearly hasn't changed, and that is Alex's accidental willingness to outsource it.
Because he snitches on his cousin pretty hard.
jordan holmes
On his cousin?
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
These troops are now coming back, and believe me, they're not depressed anymore because they're not humans anymore.
Oh, by the way, it came out about a month ago in Wired Magazine.
They're now admitting what I was already told years ago.
They're brain-shipping troops who sign waiver forms to not be depressed anymore.
Guys, type in...
Chips to help with PTSD.
Or brain implants to help with PTSD.
You know, my cousin just now got out of the military after 30 years.
And last few years he was in secret operations in Mexico.
And he says it's corrupt.
He won't tell me everything about it.
He says that's why he's getting out.
jordan holmes
He needed that.
unidentified
He needed that source to know it's corrupt.
alex jones
But the point is, is that, oh yeah, there it is.
We've got all the articles about brain chips.
I don't know if that's the one about PTSD and brain chips.
That's blast to the head, primed brains for PTSD.
Study says, no, no, the exact headline to pull it up would be implants to help with PTSD.
dan friesen
Hey, Alex, why don't you sort this out pre-show?
Do a little bit of prep.
You're a professional.
alex jones
In troops.
And then it's articles about brain implants.
It shows a guy in the chair getting a brain implant and how easy it is.
It's a small hole and then there's no more pain.
Brain implants.
jordan holmes
God, I would take one of those.
alex jones
This is about eight years ago.
He goes, I've got to apologize to you.
Put me back in the matrix.
They called us in, the officers, and said special forces are going to be getting chips, but you're not allowed to tell anybody.
And it's going to start with the non-commissioned officers.
And the next time I ask anybody, he says, I'm not allowed to talk about it.
Well, see, I went on air and told everybody they're putting chips in people at that time.
Now it's admitted.
That's for their safety, of course, and Mexican police are getting them, and the Attorney General got them, I don't know, 10 years ago in Mexico for kidnapping or whatever, but I went on to be able to chip in Miami and in the Baja Beach Club.
Blah, blah, blah.
It was so trendy, so cool.
And that's all South by Southwest is, is a big exercise on how to be chipped and how wonderful it is and how fantastic it is and how super duper it is.
And my point is, this is all just going on.
dan friesen
It is.
It's all going on.
jordan holmes
I thought that was Burning Man.
dan friesen
My bad.
jordan holmes
Coachella?
dan friesen
Coachella.
There's also chipped stuff there.
unidentified
There we go.
dan friesen
Yeah, for sure.
A lot of the stuff that he's talking about in terms of troops are experimental PTSD treatments.
And, you know...
Sure, it sounds pretty unconventional, but also there's a rash of suicides that are happening with returning veterans.
jordan holmes
It's the number one killer of American troops.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so the idea that someone would try something unconventional in order to stem the tide of these suicides doesn't seem nefarious to me.
jordan holmes
Well, the most recent studies that I've read about have been them just giving LSD.
dan friesen
Yeah, psilocybin or LSD.
jordan holmes
And it turns out it helps a lot.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a lot of therapeutic use to hallucinations, which is why I was saying the red pilling, the real version of it, Could be hallucinogens.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
To some extent.
But again, I don't want to fully step into that world because some people are real idiots.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You take hallucinogens.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, if you donate $50 a month to the Patreon, one, we'll do a time travel episode, and two, we'll take a bunch of mushrooms and time travel.
That is what we will do.
dan friesen
I could not handle that.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Anyway, the more important thing there is that within that, like...
It would be so easy to figure out who his cousin is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
His cousin was doing secret work in Mexico, just got out of the army.
That alone narrows him down who he is.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
He just said on a fucking public broadcast that his cousin was leaking secret information to him.
jordan holmes
Well, he wasn't allowed to talk about it.
dan friesen
But he did, clearly.
jordan holmes
Well, he put it on air at that time, but, you know, his cousin wasn't allowed to talk about it.
dan friesen
That's a felony.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, it's fine if Alex Jones talks about it, because his cousin didn't talk about it.
dan friesen
His cousin talked to him about it.
jordan holmes
I don't believe that for a second.
dan friesen
I don't either.
jordan holmes
Do you know how I know that his cousin is not responsible for it?
Hypnotism!
dan friesen
Alex, he's, look, okay, you're right.
Alex is probably lying, but if he's not lying...
jordan holmes
That's a crime.
dan friesen
Yeah, his cousin, he's just snitched on his cousin for a felony.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Great use of your time, Alex.
Go back to ranting about the devil.
jordan holmes
Commit more felonies, Alex.
dan friesen
You won't put your fucking family in the hopper.
You talk about the globalists destroying the family, you're out here snitching on your cousin.
Fucking punk-ass Alex.
jordan holmes
Maybe he doesn't like his cousin that much.
dan friesen
Could be.
jordan holmes
That could be.
dan friesen
You got a brain chip now.
He's not the same guy.
He's not even human.
unidentified
I love that the attorney general for Mexico, which...
jordan holmes
Is that a position?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I would assume.
He got chipped eight years ago?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
But he never...
Why?
dan friesen
It's like a tracking chip in case he got kidnapped or something like that.
That's how I heard what Alex said.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's basically find my phone.
That's find my iPhone.
dan friesen
Basically what you do with any dog you'd adopt.
Or low jack on a car.
jordan holmes
Or horses, or traveling killer whales, or dolphins, or...
Frankly, the Russians did it to Trump, so I think we're fine there, too.
dan friesen
But I do get it in terms of why that's weird with humans.
I get it.
There's privacy issues.
You don't want to be forcefully chipped or something like that.
As far as GPS chips go.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
We can't open the floodgate of TikTok.
jordan holmes
It would be terrible if everyone had a device they carried with them at all times with GPS technology that somebody could possibly hack into.
Or maybe there's a fucking...
What's it called?
Entry point or whatever it is that's put in there.
Specifically for the NSA, to follow you wherever you are, it can be turned into a recording device at any goddamn point in time.
Like, all of this shit, it would be insane if that was possible!
dan friesen
Stop ranting, you have a fucking iPhone.
jordan holmes
I do!
dan friesen
Yeah, so come on.
jordan holmes
Well, anytime I, you know, right now I have it in the refrigerator and definitely not right next to me.
dan friesen
You could have, like, a fucking sidekick or something like that.
No one's hacking a sidekick.
unidentified
Nah.
dan friesen
You'd chirp people.
jordan holmes
I mean, frankly, at this point, who cares?
dan friesen
Just get walkie-talkies.
jordan holmes
If they want to find me, they can find me.
I'm connected to the...
All the shit I say is released on the internet now.
dan friesen
It's true.
Said some horrible stuff on this pod.
jordan holmes
Yeah, which is why you should use Signal.
My advice to everyone listening to this...
Download signal.
It's got double-ended encryption.
You're much better off.
dan friesen
That is the public service announcement that we would like to give.
The public service announcement that Alex would like to give in this next clip is that the civil rights movement wasn't that great.
But not for the reasons you'd think.
It's not racist.
Really.
It's because they didn't love guns.
jordan holmes
I swear to God, he has no idea the history of the civil rights movement.
Look, zero understanding of that.
dan friesen
I'm putting words in his mouth slightly.
What I'm trying to say is that he believes that his gun march is more important than civil rights.
Oh, well, that's more what I meant.
jordan holmes
That's obviously true.
dan friesen
Anyway, here we go.
alex jones
But I guess there's going to be 30, 40 people already that are saying they're going to show up with their firearms.
We've done this a lot.
We did it at the Alamo, even though they said it was illegal in San Antonio.
No, it's not.
We have the state law on our side.
We marched with the land commissioner armed.
And we defeated the enemy by exercising our rights.
We went and voted.
We went and ate at the lunch counter.
We sat at the front of the bus.
And you can just go straight to hell if you don't like it.
Anyways.
Hardcore human rights, God-given rights, true civil rights movement, true liberalism in Thomas Jefferson vein of guns and property and family and consciousness and free association tomorrow with Jakari Jackson.
Leanne McAdoo and the Patriots are going to be marching.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, I'd go with Leanne McAdoo.
alex jones
I'm so excited.
I'm so excited.
And I just can't hide it.
I think I may go down there.
jordan holmes
Listen, you're flat, Alex.
You're flat.
dan friesen
A little pitchy, dog.
So, yeah, that's not great.
jordan holmes
I can't think of any reasons why.
I think it's obvious that if you are a large group of all-white men, the only corollary to your situation...
dan friesen
You're so off-base already.
Jakari Jackson's a black dude and Leanne McAdoo's a woman.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, you're right.
Retract my argument!
dan friesen
Thank you.
So this next clip, Alex Jones says some things about...
jordan holmes
Also, I would love to know if they actually went.
dan friesen
I think they did.
I bet they did.
jordan holmes
Man, what a bummer of a day for them.
dan friesen
So this next clip, Alex Jones talks a little bit about foreign influence in the government, which is a little bit...
jordan holmes
I bet he's against it.
dan friesen
It's a little appropriate nowadays.
Let's see what he has to say about particularly Rahm Emanuel.
alex jones
We are being usurped by degenerate criminal scum with a criminal instinct to disarm us.
They try to control reality, how they're the trendies, and we gotta do what they say.
They're a pack of weak, chicken-neck criminal scum.
Stop letting them dictate reality.
Stop letting them sabotage humanity.
Stop letting them jack with everybody.
unidentified
You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.
jordan holmes
I think it might be people.
unidentified
And what I mean by that, it's an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.
alex jones
There goes that foreign agent.
He is an officer in the Israeli military.
Rahm Emanuel.
People say, why are you bashing Israel?
I don't want Russians being the White House chief of staff.
I don't want Chinese military officers the White House chief of staff.
unidentified
Oh, it'd be terrible if it was a fucking Nazi, too!
How bad would that be?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Isn't that fun?
Isn't that fun?
jordan holmes
Is there any position that the GOP and the people who support them have taken now where you literally...
Well...
Every single position they take, you can go back a very short period of time and find them in the exact opposite position.
dan friesen
More or less, yeah.
jordan holmes
There are zero people free of this.
dan friesen
Well, it's especially endemic now because we had Obama in office.
unidentified
Right.
And they hated him so much.
jordan holmes
Well, they would do...
I mean, fucking McConnell said it.
My only job is to make sure that he can't do anything.
It had nothing to do with governing and everything to do with, I just don't want him to do anything.
dan friesen
Oh, I forgot about this.
jordan holmes
So the craziest part of this is they created the situation that we're all in, wherein our government is utterly and fucking worthless.
And you can't...
You can't work with anybody because they already set the precedent of you can't do it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and you know that you're going to get snakebitten.
If you do try and work with someone, they're going to backbite you.
unidentified
Exactly.
jordan holmes
No, they've all lost their goddamn minds.
dan friesen
I totally forgot about this.
Today on the show, Roger Stone was going on quite a jag about how Joe McCarthy was a good man.
unidentified
Oh, no!
dan friesen
How?
Because you know why?
unidentified
Why?
dan friesen
There were reds in Hollywood.
jordan holmes
Were there?
Were they all reds?
Did they get them all?
Did they get every single one of them?
I'm glad there was no collateral damage there.
dan friesen
And he's like, you know what?
Who has real blacklists?
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
They're Democrats now.
I'm on a blacklist.
No, you're not allowed on TV because you keep saying racist shit.
You keep calling black anchors on CNN boy and stuff like that.
You can't do that.
You can't do that.
jordan holmes
Did he actually do that?
dan friesen
Okay, here's what it was.
Stone also repeatedly attacked former CNN analyst Roland Martin when he worked for the network calling him a, quote, stupid negro and a fat negro.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
He also referred to Anna Navarro and Martin as, quote, quota hires by CNN.
Roger Stone has stood by his attacks after criticism by Media Matters last year tweeting, Misfits at Media Matters funded by Dirty Clinton money try an orchestrated hit on me for calling out idiots Anna Navarro and Roland Martin.
It's really not that you called them out.
You called him a stupid and fat negro.
That's not putting someone on a blacklist.
That's like, dude, you just can't.
You're not allowed.
We find this behavior unacceptable.
jordan holmes
He should be on the FBI watch list if he's not already.
unidentified
He might be.
dan friesen
Anyway, so yeah, McCarthy is cool.
But now, we're going to get to some meat and potatoes.
Because this episode is supposed to be about the Malaysian plane.
Again, you'd forgotten already.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, it's hard not to.
Unless he ties the devil into the reason the Malaysian plane went down, I'm going to forget he's talking about the plane.
dan friesen
Devil went down to Malaysia.
He was looking for souls to steal.
He was in a bind.
He was way behind.
He was ready to take down a plane.
No, he doesn't do that, but he does think, ah, theory, Amelia Earhart is the devil.
Plane.
Plane went down.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
What can I talk about?
jordan holmes
Free association.
dan friesen
9-11.
alex jones
I told everybody on 9-11, you can remote control aircraft.
And the only real phone calls that came out, this ties into Malaysia, then I'm going to go to my guest and get his take just on generally the NSA, everything that's happening.
But also on this, because he's talked about hacking these smart devices in your house, in cars, the smart cars, the planes.
The point is, in the 80s, they'd flown jumbo jets from California to Australia on record.
So I would tell people about this saying the only real air phone calls, not the fake calls that were 30,000 feet, the FBI later said there was no record of, with the Solicitor General's wife, that all came out.
The real air phone calls said there's gas, we can't breathe.
So my hypothesis is somebody gassed them, they remote controlled the aircraft.
Regardless, that can happen.
We don't know what happened in Malaysia.
Could have been a hijacking.
They could have flown it somewhere else, changed the transponders.
We don't know.
jordan holmes
They could have even crashed.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So that's a fun 9-11 theory.
jordan holmes
Could have even been pilot error.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Like 9-11.
dan friesen
So Alex Jones, apparently, I didn't even realize this, that that was the theory he landed on, is that they were gassed.
jordan holmes
They were gassed.
dan friesen
They gassed the planes and then there were remote control flown into the buildings.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I didn't even realize that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
I didn't know what wacky thing he landed on in terms of...
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess that's...
Is that better than a false flag operation?
dan friesen
No, because it is still.
jordan holmes
Oh, it is still.
dan friesen
Yeah, because the...
jordan holmes
Oh, so it would be like the NSA who remote controlled them into the...
dan friesen
Rogue forces in the government did that.
jordan holmes
And this is also around the Snowden revelations.
Yeah.
Which is why they're going off on the NSA.
dan friesen
I cut one part out of this episode where he talked about how he was way ahead of Snowden.
Be that as it may.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, Alex Jones is always way ahead.
He's got sources.
One of his sources?
dan friesen
The devil.
jordan holmes
Snowden.
dan friesen
Both.
jordan holmes
They tag-teamed.
dan friesen
So I looked up that call that Alex was talking about, and it is a real call.
jordan holmes
You okay?
The one from 9-11.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it is kind of interesting if you read the transcript of it, but it doesn't say that there's gas and we can't breathe.
jordan holmes
What does it say?
dan friesen
They were saying that the lady who was on the phone was saying that she believed that someone had used mace.
And that some people were having trouble breathing.
If you want to go really far with it and extrapolate, as Alex loves to do, you could take that to mean, oh, everybody's been gassed.
Or you could take it to mean, hey, there's a lot of kernels of this story we don't know.
One of them might have been an attempt to...
Overtake the attackers with mace, or some of the attackers might have had mace and used it on people to pacify them.
jordan holmes
Well, and if you had any, like, if you had mace, of course you're going to do everything you can.
dan friesen
Sure.
There's a number of explanations that fit that call that don't involve the planes being gassed and remote-controlled into a building.
But anyway, I don't care.
So, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Are you ready for this?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's time.
We've gone on a very Malaysia plane-less adventure so far throughout this.
And it's not going to change now.
But what is going to happen is...
jordan holmes
We're going to go deeper into the zero Malaysia plane situation.
dan friesen
We are.
Because Alex Jones gets super defensive about super male vitality, and he starts a commercial that lasts for fucking ever.
And I've cut out some parts of it, but just to give you an idea, it's at least like 15 minutes long.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So this is how he starts, and it's fucking defensive as shit.
jordan holmes
He gets defensive?
dan friesen
So defensive.
jordan holmes
How are you selling a product if you're defensive about it?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Here we go.
alex jones
And, by the way, this isn't hype.
People say, really, Alex?
A minority of folks, but I'd say 20-30% of vocal minority in the comments on YouTube and Infowars, when there's a video or something about this post, they go, really, man?
You know, you claim you got mail enhancement drops?
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah, you bet.
Eight superpower herbs concentrated that will blow your freaking socks off.
unidentified
Sold me?
jordan holmes
Sold me?
unidentified
Yeah, you bet.
alex jones
It costs us depending on how we get the wet herbs chipped in and everything, organic certified and everything.
jordan holmes
They ain't even seen bone broth yet.
They ain't got no idea what kind of male enhancement they're about to get.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
They don't even know what the fucking future holds.
jordan holmes
Male enhancement is coming, baby!
dan friesen
So now, hold on.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
This is so important for our analysis of Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
We have speculated for the entirety of the time we've done this podcast that it is basically a boner thing.
Right?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, it's a boner thing.
dan friesen
So we've talked about it as a pill, and we've been kind of glib.
In the same way we said bone pills, caveman's bone pills, it's, you know, that's a powder you put in milk or whatever.
It turns out, we've done a bad job of explaining this, super male vitality is a liquid, and it comes in a dropper.
And you put it under your tongue, basically.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yeah, it comes in an eyedropper bottle.
It's a liquid.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
It's weird.
jordan holmes
You take a dropper?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
You put super male vitality underneath your tongue.
dan friesen
That's how I understand it, yeah.
jordan holmes
Is there a reason behind that?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Does male vitality come from below the tongue?
Is that something I didn't know about?
dan friesen
Yeah, it comes from that frenulum down there.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Listen, we're going to get into whether or not it's a boner pill at this point.
jordan holmes
The time has come.
dan friesen
It has come, and I'm going to tell you this, we're not going to get a direct answer.
alex jones
Between $10 and $20, it varies each process when they make it.
jordan holmes
That is...
alex jones
I can put out a male enhancement herb that would give people some effect for like $5 is what it would cost me instead of $20.
Nobody puts out products that cost $20.
I'm about to buy a product for mitochondrial DNA that nobody else is putting out.
My dad was developing it for...
I'm not going to get into it.
The point is that we're going to put it out.
It's going to cost us $60 a bottle.
To get this pharmaceutical-grade stuff.
And I'm just giving you an idea of products that are coming out, the type of stuff we're doing, okay?
So, yeah, when it costs $120, that's because it's going to cost us $60, and we've got to have R&D money and all the other money and money to fund all the operations.
That's the kind of stuff we're rolling out, is really powerful stuff, okay?
And this super metal vitality, I don't know if I'm even allowed to tell the story.
The point is, everyone in the office, We don't advertise it as an aphrodisiac.
That is not the intention.
It is male vitality to get healthy, to have energy to work out.
It doesn't have any testosterone mimickers like most of the herbs they push at GNC and the rest of it, which do work, by the way, but have problems and breaks down and retrogrades into other hormones and causes stuff.
This is designed to block estrogen mimickers.
A, B, get your body to release its own growth hormone and testosterone.
That's what Group says it does.
I don't know what it's doing.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
So that's what Group says it's doing.
Now, Dr. Group is the guy who makes all of the supplements for InfoWars.
jordan holmes
DG.
dan friesen
I've looked up Dr. Group.
He runs a place called the Global Healing Center.
And it's based out of, I believe, Houston.
And if you go to their website, you can find a picture of him.
He looks crazy.
He looks like a hippie kind of weirdo.
Looks kind of like a young Tom Petty.
There's a little bit of that line.
jordan holmes
Long hair, shoulder length.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, in their About page, they give his educational background.
jordan holmes
What is his educational background?
dan friesen
Well, he has a doctor-ish.
jordan holmes
Good.
unidentified
Well...
jordan holmes
I like that.
I'm already sold.
dan friesen
It's from the Texas Chiropractic College.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a doctor of chiropractics.
jordan holmes
Can you even do that?
dan friesen
At the Texas Chiropractic School, you can.
Don't think that's accredited.
I don't think that's accredited.
jordan holmes
Of course it's not accredited!
dan friesen
So he also went to the MIT Sloan School of Management, which there's no real, like, graduation dates or anything there, but I assume he actually went there.
He's a diplomat, or yeah, I guess they do call it that.
A diplomat of the Chiropractic Board of Clinical Nutrition, from the Chiropractic Board of Clinical Nutrition.
He's a diplomat of the American Board of Functional Medicine, which is dubious.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Functional medicine.
dan friesen
Then, he has a bunch of degrees from the Natural Healing Institute of Neuropathy.
unidentified
Oh!
jordan holmes
He has a bunch of degrees from lies.
Bullshit!
dan friesen
He has a neuropathic practitioner degree.
jordan holmes
Not a thing.
dan friesen
A certified clinical nutritionist degree.
jordan holmes
Still not a thing.
dan friesen
A holistic healing practitioner degree.
jordan holmes
That one is true.
No, it's not.
dan friesen
And a certified clinical herbalist degree from the Natural Healing Institute of Neuropathy.
jordan holmes
Do you know what that means?
dan friesen
What's that?
unidentified
He's a witch!
dan friesen
Not neuropathy, I'm sorry.
Naturopathy.
unidentified
Sorry.
jordan holmes
Naturopathy?
dan friesen
Yeah, very similar letters.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I get why you would say it to Alex Jones listeners, but the mitochondria is not where you find DNA.
dan friesen
Not important.
We have to talk about Dr. Group.
jordan holmes
Mitochondrial DNA is not a thing.
The mitochondria is the engine of a cell.
It has no DNA in it whatsoever.
dan friesen
No, but we have to talk about Dr. Group.
This is way more important.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Then...
Basic biology?
dan friesen
He also claims in his educational background that he went to the Harvard Business School.
jordan holmes
Did he go to the Harvard Business School of developing bullshit products?
dan friesen
It has listed here that he has an OPM from the Harvard Business School.
jordan holmes
I don't know what that is.
dan friesen
No one really does.
It's the owner and president management program that the Harvard Business School does.
If you look into that a little bit deeper...
jordan holmes
It's a week-long course, isn't it?
dan friesen
It is.
You pay $30,000.
You pay like $30,000 and there's no educational requirement to get in.
It's just like a fundraising thing for the school where they teach you some business management stuff.
jordan holmes
It's like a meet and greet.
dan friesen
Tyra Banks got in big trouble because she claimed that she went to the Harvard Business School and it turned out it was this.
Everyone clowned on her real hard.
jordan holmes
Harvard Business School.
dan friesen
That is what Dr. Group has.
But now, more importantly, the Natural Healing Institute of Naturopathy.
I looked into it.
jordan holmes
Fucking, that's homeopathy bullshit.
unidentified
They have a Yelp page.
dan friesen
A lot of one-star reviews.
jordan holmes
Who would have guessed?
dan friesen
And I'm going to read one for you.
This is a terrible school.
I've almost completed the distance learning program for a holistic health practitioner, and I would not recommend this school to anyone.
The failures of this school are far-reaching, far from a completely disorganized staff who has asked me to resubmit work that they lost, typos on most of the tests, and hidden extension fees for not completing the course within 18 months.
They state this at the top of each study guide.
Dear friend and student, we wish to emphasize that there are no deadlines.
Complete your lessons.
Complete your lessons and submit your open book exams and or projects at your own pace, as your own schedule allows.
What they don't tell you is that for every six months you go beyond 18 months, they will charge you $50 to $100 and hold your degree hostage until you pay them.
I'm only finding out this information at the very end of my training course.
And it gets worse.
I took a Shiatsu course in...
I took a shiatsu class in person.
unidentified
Give it to me!
dan friesen
I took a shiatsu class in person with them, and the instructor told me he'd fail me if I didn't wear a bikini bottom to class, so we could draw meridian lines with magic markers on each other.
All right.
I told him...
jordan holmes
Accredited.
dan friesen
I told him if that was how he felt, he should make all the guys wear Speedos, to which he replied, no one wants to see that.
So that is the type of school where Dr. Group has four degrees from.
jordan holmes
Super weird, but that is also what happened in English Lit 101 for me.
But it was a very different story.
Complete opposite.
I had to wear a Speedo, otherwise I wouldn't pass my...
Alright, I'm done.
I can't keep that riff going.
dan friesen
You understand?
jordan holmes
This is so stupid.
dan friesen
That's the kind of shit where he has these holistic degrees from.
He has a doctorate only from the Texas Chiropractic Institute in Chiropractic.
He's a chiropractic doctor.
Hold on.
The other doctor that's involved at all with InfoWars is Dr. Wallach, who's a veterinarian.
He's got these dicks hanging out who are fake doctors.
jordan holmes
Doctor.
dan friesen
So anyway, he...
jordan holmes
Dr. Group!
dan friesen
Dr. Group has made this DNA product they're eventually going to pitch.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But he also, he made the super male vitality.
He just tells Alex what it is.
Alex doesn't know what the fuck's going on.
That's what Group tells me it does.
jordan holmes
Makes Alex's dick hard, though.
dan friesen
He, Alex, in that last clip said, I don't know if I can tell this story.
And that is a reference to Rob Dew.
Rob Dew.
jordan holmes
What did Rob Dew do?
dan friesen
Well, we're going to find out.
Because Alex is so obsessed with telling this story that he can't tell that he has someone go grab Rob Dew.
unidentified
Wait, what?
dan friesen
Rob Dew is putting together the nightly news.
jordan holmes
So it's Rob Dew's story.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And they need Rob Dew's permission.
dan friesen
Yeah, because Alex is like, this is classified information.
I can't tell this on air.
So he goes and has someone fetch Rob Dew and brings him in.
And Rob Dew proceeds to give.
An incredibly weird super male vitality pitch.
So here we go.
alex jones
Now, dude, A, on a stack of Bibles, this was not planned, correct?
rob dew
Totally correct.
Yeah.
You just called for me.
alex jones
Do you even know what you're here?
Were you listening to the show?
rob dew
I think it's a super male thing.
alex jones
Even though you guys were not supposed to watch the show back there, you're supposed to work on the nightly news?
rob dew
Right.
alex jones
Anyways, regardless.
rob dew
We keep it on.
alex jones
Head of the news department.
dan friesen
So I wanted to stop here for a second because...
This is gonna be a little bit, it's like three minutes long, the super male pitch, but it's important because where it ends.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It gets so fucked up at the end.
So fucked up.
jordan holmes
Do they remove Rob Dew's penis?
Is Rob Dew a eunuch?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Prove it!
dan friesen
I can't.
I can't prove or disprove it.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
Also, I cut out a part where there was the craziest revelation ever, and that is that Alex Jones and Rob Dew are the same age.
Like, no fucking way.
jordan holmes
How old does Rob do?
dan friesen
They're both 43. No way.
Alex, you're lying about your age.
No fucking way.
You're 52 if you're a day.
Anyway, here we go.
Like I said, it's going to end so fucked up.
I can't even hint where it's going to end.
So fucked up.
alex jones
What has Supermail done for you?
rob dew
It's done a couple things.
One, I guess I've been taking it about two weeks now.
I think it was after we shot that interview.
alex jones
There was even some eye rolling around here when I was coming out with it.
rob dew
I'm like, whatever.
alex jones
Well, do you think I'm going to put a joke out?
rob dew
No.
jordan holmes
Yes!
rob dew
It works differently on different people, as you've attested.
Which means it's not real!
alex jones
Let's just be honest.
I start...
It's probably not good for me to check.
rob dew
Did you call it barbarian juice?
alex jones
Yeah, go ahead.
rob dew
So, after we shot that interview, I said, oh, you know what?
We had an open thing.
I said, I'm going to start taking it.
So I started taking it.
Three dropper, fulls in the morning, three in the afternoon.
alex jones
You're taking more than you're supposed to.
jordan holmes
Jesus fucking Christ!
rob dew
And it really, you know, in the morning, you have that kind of fog when you wake up.
jordan holmes
I do that.
rob dew
The fog goes away in about five minutes, and I'm thinking clearly, and I feel like, I don't feel overly abundant of energy like when I drink.
alex jones
Because you're irritable sometimes.
rob dew
Oh, yeah, yeah, I can be very irritable.
alex jones
You're known as Ducifer around here.
rob dew
Yeah, it's definitely mellowed me out.
A little bit.
And I started doing...
Over the weekend, I installed a pull-up bar.
And every time I go into my office, I just start doing five or six pull-ups.
alex jones
And it wasn't placebo, right?
You were telling me this morning, you did it to see if it was bull.
rob dew
Yeah, yeah.
I wanted to check it out and see if it had any effect on me.
Because I use the Survival Shield as well.
And I like it.
And I've definitely noticed that.
jordan holmes
Maybe this is why they're all insane.
Because they're all taking their own products.
rob dew
So they're all just fucking losing their mind.
It definitely worked for me, and it didn't give me, like, this hyper energy.
Just nice, smooth energy.
And it tastes good.
You know, it definitely tastes...
alex jones
See, I was out late last night.
rob dew
Tastes pretty good.
alex jones
And I took some this morning, and then I feel really aggressive.
It definitely does something to me.
rob dew
You should probably do half a drop or full.
I mean, I do three, and I don't really, you know, notice...
dan friesen
So right there, Alex pulls out a dropper and does a whole job.
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
So now, at this point, Alex is about to get really weird with Rob Dew.
Don't fucking say a word over this.
jordan holmes
Okay, mic down.
dan friesen
And just know that the entire time, Alex is smiling more than I've ever seen him smile on the show.
unidentified
This is so fucking weird.
dan friesen
He's so happy about the question he's about to ask.
It's great.
rob dew
It's an adrenaline surge or anything, but it's like a smooth, it's like a slow ramp up of energy.
And I'm definitely a believer after that.
alex jones
Now, what about the classified part?
rob dew
You know, I'd rather, well, my bedroom life didn't need any enhancement before this.
alex jones
People are begging for mercy.
unidentified
What?
My wife asked that I stopped drinking.
rob dew
I'll just leave it at that.
I love you, babe.
alex jones
No, no, no.
We're not.
The thing is, this is real, okay?
But the issue is, women can take it too.
rob dew
I haven't tried to get her to take it.
She hasn't done it yet.
alex jones
Just put it in her tea.
No!
The government forced drugs.
rob dew
That's true, yeah.
I have to put filters in my water to get the fluoride out.
unidentified
What?
rob dew
You know?
dan friesen
How fucked up is that?
I told you.
I told you that was going to be the most fucked up commercial ever.
Drug your wife!
unidentified
That is...
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fucking wow.
dan friesen
Alex straight up suggested, like, hey, I've tried to get my wife to take it.
I can just do it.
Do it secretly.
Give her the funky cold Medina.
jordan holmes
God damn.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
That's insane.
dan friesen
Wow.
Not only that, but like, what was he doing that she wanted him to stop taking it?
Like, what?
jordan holmes
I know!
dan friesen
Your dick is too hard.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that's not, no.
No, no, no, no.
There's something fucking weird going.
dan friesen
Well, you can see the aggressiveness that comes out in Alex.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Alex, you should take less.
That's not a good sign.
dan friesen
Alex, you should take less.
jordan holmes
Rob Dew.
dan friesen
Followed by him taking an entire droplet.
jordan holmes
Rob Dew, don't do this.
Please.
Please, Rob Du, you're ruining your marriage with this insanity.
dan friesen
So like I said, he's smiling.
jordan holmes
That's like if Cialis' commercial was the two bathtubs right next to each other, and then the wife just throwing a shit ton of pills in the bathtub.
Don't tell your husband, you need a good dick.
dan friesen
Alex is smiling like the cat that ate the canary.
Like, he knows that he's about to talk boners with Rob Dew, and he is loving it.
He can't get enough.
And meanwhile, like I said, this is the end of the show.
Like, they're running out of time to talk about any real news items.
And they're like, nah, I want to talk about Rob Dew's dick.
So, I want to play for you.
And I mean, we can't put too small a point on the fact that...
jordan holmes
Rob Dew's wife told him to stop taking...
Fucking slow it down, maybe!
You're taking three droppers in the morning and at night?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
dan friesen
Seems like too much.
unidentified
That's insane!
dan friesen
Seems like too much.
jordan holmes
Rob Dew has prostate cancer now.
That's a true fact.
dan friesen
No, because he takes prostate guard.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, well then never mind.
dan friesen
Prostaguard.
So the show ends like this.
With Rob Dew trying real hard to get Alex to actually talk about news.
And the Malaysian plane.
And it's fucking hilarious.
jordan holmes
And Alex is just going for the dick.
dan friesen
No, he's off the dick.
But this is so funny, because this is literally just going to break to end the show.
alex jones
Like, if I have any opinion, it's discrimination.
rob dew
Going back to this Malaysia flight, what do you think about this, that finally the military's come out and said, oh, we were tracking it for 100 miles after...
Oh, we're gonna get a break in it.
dan friesen
That's it.
Rob Dew comes in with some information.
Something that was at least analysis.
It's not like...
It's the wrong time.
You got Walk With Me playing.
We're leaving.
But at the same time, at least he's trying.
And I was like, going to break.
unidentified
What do you think about that?
I'll see you in hell before I talk reality!
dan friesen
So then we come back.
And like I told you, this is a long Super Male Vitality commercial.
And it's not done.
Because it...
Again?
jordan holmes
I just want to hear more about what's going on in Rob Dew's life.
dan friesen
He has three boys.
jordan holmes
This is insane.
dan friesen
He has three lovely boys.
jordan holmes
Do you know what else?
If you want to have a boy...
dan friesen
Super male.
jordan holmes
Super male vitality.
dan friesen
Alex has two...
jordan holmes
Put three droplets in your wife's vagina.
dan friesen
While Rob Dew was in studio and they were doing basically a bro-down podcast together as opposed to a news show, Alex is like, you got three boys.
They're great.
It's an army.
jordan holmes
What's happening?
dan friesen
I got two daughters, one son, but there's something about three boys.
Like, what the fuck?
jordan holmes
That's super weird.
dan friesen
Something about having three sons.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I don't understand that at all.
dan friesen
No, it's very weird.
I think he's trying to compliment and connect with him, and it's just sort of not flying.
But hold on.
This, I hate to keep saying put the fucking mic down, but this is another one.
jordan holmes
It's fine.
Literally?
It's one of the t-shirt ideas that Chris R. has given us.
dan friesen
Speaking of which, he's doing some awesome work for us.
Some nice, awesome designs.
And if any of you want to check out some of his work, you can find him on Twitter, at BiteThisMind.
You can check his shit out.
He is the official policy wonk artist of Knowledge Fight.
We appreciate the designs sending over.
We'll eventually get a fucking shirt together.
But, listen.
This next clip.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna listen.
dan friesen
This next clip.
Is theater of the mind.
And all you really need to know is he is literally doing everything he says he's doing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He has a hamburger.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
That's one thing that is important to know.
It's not imaginary.
It is a literal hamburger.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then this happens.
alex jones
Tony and others on this Malaysian flight.
The article just went live up on Infowars.com.
Nobody's come out with this angle yet.
It happened in the same area of Asia.
Missing Malaysia flight, similar to lost 707 or 007 McDonald flight.
The reason I'm butchering the headline is Kit just walked in with this great article that I asked him to do, and then I just changed the headline.
He's going in there to change it right now, so I was changing it on air.
A missing Malaysia flight similar to lost 007 McDonald's flight.
I think that's the way to put it.
And it's a very, very important article.
And I'll be breaking that down after I take some of your phone calls.
I want to show you something that's satanic, though, if you're watching on television.
I didn't ask for this.
And Weldon Henson's a great guy running the shipping department and the product department.
But I guess Weldon was nice and sent people to a decent hamburger chain for fast food.
It's like organic, they claim.
And I didn't ask for it.
They got me a P. Terry's hamburger.
And this is satanic.
Not P. Terry's in general.
The little chain that started in Austin.
This is satanic.
Like a Ferrari that are now coming out that are part hybrid.
That's satanic.
A Ferrari that doesn't...
And the wrapping's racist because it's white.
You know, they're trying to phase out brown bags.
And the word bossy because it might hurt feminist...
It sounds like a Monty Python joke, but they're actually doing it.
That's up on Infowars.com.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is satanic.
This is a P. Terry's hamburger.
And we got a document cam shot of the offending item.
Ladies and gentlemen, this hamburger has no cheese, no ketchup, no mustard, no lettuce, no onions, no tomatoes.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is just satanic.
Just like trying to take our guns is satanic.
Just like trying to make men into women and women into androids is satanic.
This is not right.
This is anathema.
Do you know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to put super male vitality on it.
No one has ever done this before.
Super male vitality available at m4slife.com.
I'll put super male vitality on it.
And some survival shield next to iodine.
And now, ladies and gentlemen, it is no longer satanic.
I have transmognified it, if that's a word.
This is the most delicious burger in the galaxy.
I'm going to stop being silly.
Let's get into some serious topics.
Steve, I forgot to eat today.
Steve in Minnesota, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, Alex, how are you doing today?
alex jones
I'm all right, brother.
That's actually not too bad.
unidentified
What do you think about what happened with the flight?
I don't know.
There's a bunch of ideas floating around, but I wonder if it might have something to do with one of those possible nukes that were secretly shipped out.
billy corgan
I know you mentioned that the plane could have been hijacked and maybe landed at some CI-funded terrorist base, and maybe they're retrofitting it with a stolen nuke.
alex jones
That's a really good point.
Anything's possible when Dr. Evil basically runs the government.
dan friesen
I love that so much.
That might be my favorite.
Like, I want to, I don't have the time to isolate the video, but it's so funny, because he is literally putting multiple blotterfuls of super male vitality and whatever, the liver shield, on his hamburger, and he just takes a big bite out of the burger, and then he's still chewing it when he's like, you're on the air.
And he just could give a shit about this person on the phone.
He's doing dismissive gestures with the burger.
And he's like, ah, what do you think about this Malaysian plane?
Guy gives him some weird theory about nukes.
And he's like, anything's possible.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Okay.
unidentified
He doesn't give a shit.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
New angle.
jordan holmes
We've constantly talked about whether or not Alex is evil or stupid.
And when he's being evil and stupid.
Maybe.
His brain is fucked up with all this shit that he's taking all the time.
dan friesen
That's what I speculated at the end of the last episode, and I think there might be something to it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is bananas.
dan friesen
I think that this might be right around the beginning of his supplements destroying him.
Why would you put so much of it?
jordan holmes
Why would you put that shit after he's already put a dropper in his mouth already?
dan friesen
And you've already said in that interview with Rob Dew that if you take a full thing, you get irritable.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is insane!
dan friesen
You just took three, at least, within three minutes of the show.
Three dropperfuls on a fucking burger.
jordan holmes
Dude, Rob Dew's wife has asked him to stop taking super male vitality.
dan friesen
That cousin that he keeps snitching on is probably like, stop taking that shit.
Stop taking it, it's not good.
jordan holmes
And Rob Do's wife is telling Alex to stop taking Super My Vet.
dan friesen
I imagine his ex-wife is probably telling him also to stop.
unidentified
So, that is so fun.
jordan holmes
That's weird.
dan friesen
It was, when I saw that, I was like, I must be hallucinating this.
jordan holmes
That's so gross.
dan friesen
It's disgusting.
jordan holmes
What is fucking happening?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know.
But I mean, it does go to like...
This, to me...
jordan holmes
Dr. Group is slowly poisoning Alex Jones.
dan friesen
It might be.
jordan holmes
I think he's trying to kill him.
dan friesen
So that, like, to me, when we talk about the stupid evil continuum, that's genius.
To me, that's really funny.
jordan holmes
It's hilarious.
dan friesen
I don't like the idea that...
jordan holmes
It's way better than him dressing up as the Joker.
dan friesen
I don't think that, like, I like the idea of other people taking his supplements.
But just him doing it on air is pretty fucking funny.
jordan holmes
That's perfect.
dan friesen
I'm going to put all this boner pill on this burger.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's so fucking weird.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And...
jordan holmes
This burger without all this shit.
Satanic.
You put some super male vitality on that?
dan friesen
No, it's great.
jordan holmes
Not satanic anymore.
That is fucking hilarious.
unidentified
That is fucking insane.
dan friesen
And I can't stress this enough.
The facial gestures and his body language once he starts eating the burger and gets on the phone call...
They're like top-notch sketch artists, kind of nuanced.
It's so funny.
He's depicting physically how little he cares about this phone call.
All he wants to do is eat this supplement-laced burger, and it's so funny.
jordan holmes
No, I kind of want to try it.
It's like if a new drug comes out.
If there's a better MDMA, I'm kind of like, eh.
I'd give that a shot.
dan friesen
What about Adrenochrome?
jordan holmes
No, that seems like a bummer.
dan friesen
So we've got two more clips left to play.
jordan holmes
Is Super Mario Vitality Adrenochrome is the next question.
dan friesen
That's a good question.
I don't know.
Can't say.
Gotta ask Dr. Group.
jordan holmes
If Alex is a false flag, which some even harder right conspiracy theorists believe.
Super male vitality might be the first taste of adrenochrome for globalists.
dan friesen
Could be, could be.
jordan holmes
For budding globalists.
dan friesen
Oh, in his interview today, Dr. Group was saying that, like, we all know the elites take all your products.
They know.
They're great.
jordan holmes
I won't get a vaccine.
But I'll be goddamned if I don't put super male vitality on my burgers.
dan friesen
I've got to be energized.
jordan holmes
Haven't you had the Super Male Vitality In-N-Out burger yet?
dan friesen
Oh, animal style.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
dan friesen
It's Maroon 5 animal style.
So, in these last two clips, he finally gets to some talking about Malaysian flight 370, as it were.
jordan holmes
Well, now that he's got his Super Male Vitality, he's ready.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he's off the air.
Like, he's in overdrive.
jordan holmes
Yeah, oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
And so, this...
Clip is about the best he does of synthesizing what he thinks, and he doesn't think much.
There's really not much of anything here, so I'll let him get to it.
alex jones
The Malaysia flight.
What do you think happened?
370.
I'm leaning towards hijacking and somebody flying into the ocean.
It wouldn't be the first time they didn't find any debris for a while.
But I'm not sure about that.
And I don't want to say these guys that are getting on the plane are guilty just because they're Iranian.
jordan holmes
Yes, you do.
alex jones
But that's the Iranian style, and it's happened before into the Mediterranean, into the Persian Gulf over there, where they get on board the planes and then fly them right down into the water.
There's also been cases where Egyptian military, multiple times, the planes get blown up, and that's probably the Israelis.
If the Egyptian military doesn't play ball, there's been a bunch of cases of...
I mean, you got 20, 30, 40, 50 Egyptian top brass on an airplane, they blow those up.
So, I don't know.
I mean, this is a real mystery.
dan friesen
Whodunit.
It's kind of sad.
Like, we want him to come up with something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's got to have a better conspiracy theory.
dan friesen
I imagine within, like, the next weeks after this, he puts together something that's fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or something that's nutty.
But at this point, yeah, he's just like, who knows?
I don't know.
It's a mystery.
I don't know.
But you latched on to something when he said, I don't want to say it's the Iranians.
Of course you want to fucking say it's the Iranians.
jordan holmes
Of course you want to say it's the Iranians.
dan friesen
And that becomes clear in this next clip.
jordan holmes
The only thing he wants to say is that it's the Iranians.
dan friesen
Yeah, listen to this.
unidentified
I'm thinking, yeah, they took it down.
alex jones
You know, I tend to think...
jordan holmes
The Muslims do everything wrong.
alex jones
Who do you think took it down?
unidentified
Oh, it's kind of strange.
It's flying out of Malaysia, so...
jordan holmes
Iranians.
unidentified
I think what you were talking about before, I'm pretty much sure, like...
jordan holmes
Iranians.
unidentified
Someone out of Russia or Iran, one of those two.
alex jones
Interesting.
I appreciate your call.
Well, Malaysia is a mainly Muslim nation.
And that's the kind of place where, you know, the real folks that really want to do something can get on board.
But again, it may not be.
I don't want to sit here and pass blame on people, even though they're suspects, reportedly.
I just think they look like capable, very serious people who are on a mission and are whacked out of their brains a little bit.
Why?
Maybe they're totally innocent.
In fact, I bet they are innocent.
I bet Obama's innocent of everything as well.
dan friesen
So that really kind of depicts his real feelings.
I bet they are innocent.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Very lilting.
Also, whacked out of their brains, you just ate a super male Vitality hamburger.
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
I do think that this is so...
This is so odd, considering this is the guy who is like, yeah, Chobani Yogurt is hiring Muslim refugees to rape people.
dan friesen
Yeah, and bring TB into the country.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like...
How can you be so...
Like I said, he's on autopilot here.
His racism and bigotry is just kind of like in the...
Like, hey!
You know, I'm racist.
You're racist.
Let's not even worry about it.
We all know.
dan friesen
It's secondarily racist.
It's like, that's a part of me, but it's not the most important part.
I also do crafts.
jordan holmes
The most important part is super male vitality.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And ruining my relationship with my wife.
dan friesen
The reality is...
Oh, I mean, this was right.
Right around when the divorce was happening.
It was three years ago.
jordan holmes
Super male vitality.
dan friesen
Could have been what the whole thing was about.
jordan holmes
Super male vitality.
Do you want to divorce your wife?
Give it a shot.
I wonder if Rob Dew's still married.
dan friesen
I think they're still married.
jordan holmes
You think they're still married?
dan friesen
I believe so.
jordan holmes
I'm guessing he stopped taking super male vitality then.
dan friesen
You do what the lady asks.
jordan holmes
Not if she's bossy.
In which case you gotta...
dan friesen
Why didn't Alex use that as an opportunity?
To be like, your wife wants you to stop taking super male vitality.
That's what Beyonce would say, because she's backed by the banks, multinational corporations, trying to bossy-ass wife.
Take the pill.
jordan holmes
Bossy-ass wife.
dan friesen
Take the pill, Rob Do.
I don't know.
Got lost in a fantasy there.
jordan holmes
That was a weird little reverie you dived into.
dan friesen
The other thing I was thinking about is like...
jordan holmes
I saw your eyes kind of roll back in your head, just like...
Oh, Rob Bue's wife.
I bet she loves Superman.
dan friesen
That was not what was going on in my mind, and I think you were a degenerate.
jordan holmes
Hey, you're the one who's in love with Liam McAdoo.
dan friesen
I'm not in love with her.
I just think she's great.
The other thing I was thinking was the possibility that his being on autopilot is somewhat related to him being super hungry.
Because he did say, I forgot to eat.
jordan holmes
I haven't eaten today.
dan friesen
His being off topic on being hungry.
But maybe he was too fucking hungry to really rant and get mad about stuff.
Like, he spent a lot of energy on that devil riff.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So maybe that took a lot out of him.
jordan holmes
He got it all out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, that's possible.
There's no good theories.
jordan holmes
He ate a burger on air.
dan friesen
With supplements on it.
As condiments.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's the most disgusting thing I can think of.
dan friesen
It was rough.
jordan holmes
That's gross.
dan friesen
It was rough.
Anyway, this has been...
March 11th, 2014 in the Alex Jones Show.
If you would like us to time travel back to another day, I fucking hope the one you choose has a really long, weird Super Male Vitality ad in it.
But please, you can donate to the show over on our website, knowledgefight.com.
We have a link that says support the show.
Donate $10 a month and we will go back to any day in history that I can find the episode of.
I have consistent archives to about...
I would say...
Mid to late 2012.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And then I'm searching for more.
So if you have a date that's before that, I might be able to find it, but consistently to around the, let's say, October 2012.
jordan holmes
I really want Obama's election.
That's the one that I think of.
Oh, man.
What kind of bile must he have been spouting then?
dan friesen
Probably be pretty terrible.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
I want to give a summation of what we've learned.
Space Command runs everything.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
Devil, bad.
unidentified
True.
dan friesen
Very bad.
TV hypnotizes.
Alex hypnotizes better.
There's a monkey farm.
There's a monkey farm.
jordan holmes
Filled with hypnotized monkeys.
dan friesen
And tiki cocktails.
jordan holmes
And tiki cocktails.
dan friesen
Those two things are there.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
The government's going to sell your- Hundreds of monkeys?
jordan holmes
Great margaritas.
dan friesen
The government's going to sell your kids to the Saudis.
Civil rights movement pales in comparison to guns.
9-11 was gas.
Gas and remote controls?
unidentified
9-11.
dan friesen
And Super Male Vitality, pretty fucking awesome.
Jury's out on the Malaysian plane.
No idea.
So, thank you to Nikki Gifts, my man.
I appreciate you giving us this assignment.
If you guys want to find us, you can reach us at knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
To Nikki Gifts with love, and to the rest of you policy wonks out there, as well as the soon-to-be policy wonks, we toast you.
Thank you so much.
dan friesen
Also, before we get to the other stuff, there's a lot of stuff I'm trying to build into and add to knowledgefight.com to be a much better resource.
So please check out the website and see the kind of stuff.
I'm trying to make this a one-stop shop for all your Alex Jones information needs.
And if you guys help out, build the traffic up.
It'd help a lot in terms of inspiring me to put the kind of work I'm already putting in.
Because it's a lot of work, and when I see...
jordan holmes
Inspiring Dan to justify the amount of work he's putting in.
dan friesen
20 people came to the website.
It's tough.
We get a lot of downloads, but the traffic to the website is not that...
jordan holmes
And we're consistently getting more and more downloads, which means you guys are fucking sharing the shit out of this.
dan friesen
Which we appreciate.
Continue doing that.
Also, you can find us on Twitter.
jordan holmes
At knowledge...
Is there an underscore?
dan friesen
There is.
jordan holmes
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
Correct.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Can you find us on iTunes?
dan friesen
You can.
Just Knowledge Fight.
We don't have a picture.
We gotta figure that fucking shit out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we do.
dan friesen
Please leave a review.
If you do, please involve something about John Rappaport.
Give us a rating.
Give us a review.
We appreciate it.
Absolutely.
Also, if you want to directly email us, it's knowledgefight.
jordan holmes
Knowledgefight at gmail.com.
dan friesen
At the gmail.
But, this has been fun.
jordan holmes
And, we advise you, do not try Super Male Vitality.
dan friesen
Please don't buy any of Alex's products.
jordan holmes
Do not buy any of his products.
unidentified
If you do, I want to hear all about it!
Oh my god!
dan friesen
They're made by a chiropractor and maybe a CIA dentist.
I don't think you should be taking these products.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
Just my thoughts.
jordan holmes
No, look, if you take these products, you'll wind up like Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
But if you take these products, I want to hear all about it!
dan friesen
Jordan, this episode has been two hours shorter than our last one.
jordan holmes
Oh, wonderful.
dan friesen
But this has been fun.
jordan holmes
It has been.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
More time travel episodes, please.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This made me forget that the world is ending.
dan friesen
Yeah, out there, it's all terrible.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, in here, it's 2014.
dan friesen
Can I give you one good piece of news about the world out there?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Rappaport still lives!
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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