Today, Dan tells Jordan about some of the important events that went down in Alex Jones's 30 hour "Marathon Broadcast for Free Speech." Despite containing about 29 hours of garbage, a couple important topics came up: Is Alex Jones teasing his inevitable turn on Trump? Is Alex Jones the victim of "gay bullying?" Did Obama literally steal a bunch of money from housing lenders? Does Alex get really defensive when people imply that his voice is fake?
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| Welcome back to me, because I wasn't here for the last episode. | ||
| We missed you, friend. | ||
| How are you doing? | ||
| I am anxious. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Terrified. | ||
| Why? | ||
| The world is encroaching in upon my psyche. | ||
| Oh, you're not terrified about the fact that we're coming back onto the show? | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| You're not terrified that you've forgotten how to do this? | ||
| Oh, I thought this was just a general personal question. | ||
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Never mind. | |
| I'll keep it business for you. | ||
| Yeah, look, don't bring your fucking baggage to the show. | ||
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I'm sorry. | |
| I don't want... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, no, no, no. | ||
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You're right. | |
| This isn't a show about your personal nonsense. | ||
| This is a show where we sit down and drink red wine. | ||
| God damn it, you are a master of transitions. | ||
| How did you do that? | ||
| I've had a lot of practice. | ||
| I can see it. | ||
| We sit down and we talk about the life and times of Alex Jones. | ||
| But there's a twist. | ||
| Is there a twist? | ||
| There is. | ||
| I know so much about Alex Jones. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| Way more than he's comfortable with me knowing. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Do you listen to the show every day? | ||
| Every day. | ||
| Let me tell you something about me. | ||
| I know nothing about Alex Jones and I never listen to the show. | ||
| Do you live in a bubble? | ||
| I live in a bubble. | ||
| The best bubble. | ||
| Except for when I come into here and I discover all of the things about Alex Jones that I despise. | ||
| And thus, you make yourself super anxious. | ||
| Back to the beginning. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Guys, we are going to get into our episode for today, but first, I'd like to give a little shout-out to our new donator. | ||
| What's up, Scott R.? | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Congratulations, you are now a policy wonk. | ||
| Hey, Scott, you're a policy wonk. | ||
| If you would like to be a policy wonk, please visit our Patreon page and make a little donation. | ||
| You will officially be a policy wonk. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Also, I'd like to thank, we got a couple new requests for time travel episodes. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And I don't want to do them, but we will be... | ||
| We will be. | ||
| You've immediately broken your contract with our listeners. | ||
| No. | ||
| Immediately. | ||
| No, I will do them. | ||
| Not today. | ||
| No, but I will do them. | ||
| I'm saying that some of the subject matter is stuff I don't want to talk about. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| So, I mean, I think that people who are donating are playing the game correctly. | ||
| In that they want to torture you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Okay, gotcha. | |
| They want us to go explore these awful times in Alex's past. | ||
| So we will be doing that, but today. | ||
| I got a real fun exploration for us. | ||
| I don't know if you're aware of this, Jordan, but last week ended on Wednesday and Thursday with a 34, I think? | ||
| That's what they ended with. | ||
| 34-hour live broadcast. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| They started during Alex Jones' show on Wednesday. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Starts at 11 o 'clock Central, and they went through, I believe, 8 o 'clock, 8 or 9 o 'clock on Thursday, 8 o 'clock p.m. | ||
| On Thursday. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| But here's the thing. | ||
| It's kind of bullshit. | ||
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What?! | |
| Yeah, because Alex Jones wasn't manning a lot of it. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| So you have him doing his own show, and then periodically they drop in special reports with him, which is just pre-taped shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So he's not losing his mind at three in the morning, which is what we want. | ||
| Yeah, that was the... | ||
| I want to see him gradually get more and more one... | ||
| Very drunk. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And two, I wanna see, like, even when he's beyond what a human can do, like, he's at 27 hours and there's still seven more to go. | ||
| I wanna see him in a cot. | ||
| David Knight should have read him a story. | ||
| That'll put you to sleep, David Knight. | ||
| That's why he wasn't on at 3 in the morning. | ||
| You want people to stick around. | ||
| David Knight puts himself to sleep when he talks. | ||
| On top of that, you've got Paul Joseph Watson, who's in London. | ||
| And so, like, he can just man some off hours. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because he's on Greenwich Mean Time. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's not really that weird for him. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then you got Rob Dew, who, like, fucking put him in anywhere. | ||
| He may be a robot. | ||
| He's as good asleep as he is awake. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| So, you have these things, and, like... | ||
| Just Rob Dew staring at the camera with his eyes open, snoring. | ||
| The nature of a telethon is this tension of, can they make it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's why Jerry's telethons back in the day were fun, because you'd have celebrities at these crazy hours, and they'd be like, oh, that guy's on his last fumes. | ||
| And Alex didn't engage with that as a style or a genre of the telethon, but he did. | ||
| Adhere to the oh fuck, let's try and pimp products as hard as we can. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Every hour they played a ten minute thing of him just, it was just Alex at the desk, pre-taped. | ||
| Like, I like to have a lot of fun on the show. | ||
| We like to joke around. | ||
| But something that's not funny. | ||
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Is the globalists. | |
| It was a disaster. | ||
| It was so embarrassing. | ||
| But the telethon did include appearances from our friend Mike Cernovich. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Who is now an official InfoWars employee. | ||
| Wonderful! | ||
| I'm so glad that the axis of evil is really joining together into a gelatinous ooze of monstrosity. | ||
| A lot of my theories are starting to come together about these consolidations. | ||
| We have... | ||
| Past Infowars guest and Pizzagate proponent. | ||
| Jack Posobiec getting hired at Rebel Media along with Gavin slash Nigel McGinnis and Lauren Southern and Based Stickman and these weirdos of the alt-right. | ||
| Who's Lauren Southern? | ||
| It's not important. | ||
| We'll deal with her at some point in the future. | ||
| She's crazy. | ||
| She's just another one of these provocateurs and faux journalists. | ||
| It would be yellow journalism back in the day, but now it's... | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| I don't know what to call it other than alt-right bullshit. | ||
| Citizen Kane, Rosebud nonsense. | ||
| Just complete lies. | ||
| It's just a liar. | ||
| So you have that at the Rebel Media. | ||
| Then you've got Cernovich joining up with Alex Jones over on the InfoWars team. | ||
| And then you have the Roger Stones, the Jerome Corses. | ||
| You have that team over here. | ||
| Rebel Media up in Canada. | ||
| It's a Canadian company. | ||
| They're influencing our politics as a foreign company. | ||
| That's fascinating. | ||
| Which is very weird. | ||
| Is that okay? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's very murky because the people in the rebel media, the southern, the baked Alaska, these folks, they are getting paid by some organization, whether it be rebel media or some other organization, to counter-protest in Berkeley. | ||
| They're getting paid for their coverage and organization of these anti-Antifa riots that are going on in Berkeley. | ||
| Wait, so they're actually paid protesters? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's not fair! | ||
| That's not fair! | ||
| We're not paid! | ||
| No, well, by our wonderful donators slash policy wonks. | ||
| That's true, we are paid by them. | ||
| But it's so obvious and overt that it's almost... | ||
| Blase to call out. | ||
| It's like, yes, your company is paying you to incite violence, but you're not a paid protester. | ||
| You're a journalist. | ||
| It's kind of that weird rhythm. | ||
| It's awful. | ||
| That is fucking... | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| So you also had appearances on the telethon from our friend from 2015, Lionel. | ||
| Lionel made an appearance. | ||
| I remember Lionel. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Lionel, the guy who is inexplicably right about how to destroy the world. | ||
| And had no idea that that was the playbook his team would be using. | ||
| Yeah, it's very bizarre. | ||
| He was on, who else do we have? | ||
| We had Ron Paul made an appearance. | ||
| Ron Paul is still alive. | ||
| Ron Paul is still alive, and he seemed sane by comparison. | ||
| Yeah, why is Ron Paul going on InfoWars? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Does Ron Paul know what InfoWars is? | ||
| I think he seems nice, is what I would say. | ||
| He's like an aw shucks. | ||
| I'll do it for you, Alex. | ||
| You just seem like a good old fella. | ||
| I think that's a piece of it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think he gets a lot of mileage out of his sort of cartoony voice. | ||
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Okay. | |
| His cartoony old man voice. | ||
| Because I think that people are like a little bit, eh, he's not up to something. | ||
| He's just a quirky old man. | ||
| He's just a silly old man. | ||
| I think there's some of that. | ||
| But here's the most important thing. | ||
| So originally it was supposed to be a 30-hour marathon that would end at the end of the Alex Jones show. | ||
| The next day. | ||
| On Thursday. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because he has a four-hour show. | ||
| It would have started at the beginning, go 24 hours. | ||
| I guess it was maybe supposed to be 28 at the beginning. | ||
| Or maybe it was supposed to include the three to five live after Alex. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| The anchorman of Alex Jones' show on Thursday, our main man Rappaport. | ||
| Oh, whoa. | ||
| He did the whole thing? | ||
| He did the last hour of the Alex Jones show. | ||
| And he did it on Skype. | ||
| He did? | ||
| God, I want to see him in studio. | ||
| No picture. | ||
| The picture is not up. | ||
| What? | ||
| The picture's not up? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Is it there at all? | ||
| It's there. | ||
| Oh, goddammit, he still hasn't put it up. | ||
| When you said no picture, I was like, oh, he got rid of it. | ||
| No, I realized that as my mouth was making the words, I was trying to say, no picture up. | ||
| Which is not good. | ||
| That's not quite the way to go about it. | ||
| To be fair, we're on the 30th hour of this marathon episode. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, it was all a crock of shit. | ||
| John Rappaport's report was boring. | ||
| We don't need to go over it. | ||
| It was toothless in many ways. | ||
| Multiple ways. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| You double on Tom that all day. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But here, I'd like to play... | ||
| I mean, it was really all about marketing. | ||
| It was insanely about selling products. | ||
| It was a literal telethon. | ||
| And so I'd like to take this out-of-context drop of Alex Jones in one of his marketing pitches. | ||
| Infowarsstore.com. | ||
| Get the Paul Joseph Watson shirt. | ||
| I think it's great for women. | ||
| I personally am not going to wear a guy on my shirt, but that's what women are mainly buying. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Bachismo. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| I think the Paul Joseph Watson shirt is great for women? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because he said dudes don't wear dudes on their shirts. | ||
| It's gay. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| That's what he's saying. | ||
| He's saying it's gay. | ||
| Basically, that's for ladies. | ||
| You don't want to wear a dude's face on your shirt. | ||
| Alright, whatever, Alex. | ||
| Alright, okay. | ||
| Great. | ||
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Are you alright? | |
| I just... | ||
| I love that you picked up the pen as if you were going to take notes. | ||
| Yeah, I was like, something's got to happen here. | ||
| But no, no. | ||
| I don't even understand that toxic, masculine, homophobic viewpoint. | ||
| It's bizarre. | ||
| Don't wear a dude's face on your shirt? | ||
| What about all the people who wear the Rock's face on their shirt? | ||
| They smell what he's cooking. | ||
| Those guys are homoerotic and loving it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Now, admittedly, Paul Joseph Watson, slick. | ||
| I've never seen his face. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You say he looks handsome, so I'm guessing that's why. | ||
| He doesn't look handsome. | ||
| He's attractive, but he is not handsome. | ||
| Didn't we have an episode where Alex Jones was a toe in the line where he's like, Hey, Paul Joseph, he's... | ||
| He's a really good looking man. | ||
| I think that was Gavin McGinnis. | ||
| That was Gavin McGinnis who he wanted to fuck. | ||
| You were saying he would fuck him if he was gay. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Doing his hacky, washed over 90s material. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I guess that would apply to PJW too. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I mean, there's a reason he's worked there for 16 years or something like that. | ||
| Red Boy? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm not saying that. | ||
| Sue me for other reasons. | ||
| Not that one. | ||
| So, today what we're going to be doing, our episode is going to be covering the Wednesday and Thursday episodes of the Alex Jones program contained within the marathon. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So, mostly Wednesday. | ||
| Because Thursday is a little weird. | ||
| But I want to start with Thursday. | ||
| Because this is hour 26 of the marathon. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then we're going to go back to Wednesday, and then we'll touch back on Thursday a little bit. | ||
| I want to start with this because... | ||
| You're doing a whole Memento-style podcast here. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Just because... | ||
| I want to start with this topic because it makes me so happy. | ||
| On Thursday, an article came out in BuzzFeed by a guy named Charlie Warzel. | ||
| He had been doing amazing coverage on Twitter of Alex Jones' custody battle. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it turns out that he has been researching Alex Jones'past in the way that you and I had really wanted to. | ||
| Off air, we've had conversations about trying to contact people who worked at the radio station that Alex Jones started at. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And we'd found some LinkedIn pages. | |
| And we were this close to starting a LinkedIn account. | ||
| In a not at all creepy way. | ||
| We were about to go down this path and I'm pleased to announce that we don't have to. | ||
| Because this guy did it for us. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| So I think Charlie Warzel did an amazing piece of journalism here. | ||
| Honorary policy wonks. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Honorary king of the policy wonks. | ||
| I would love to get him on. | ||
| I'd love to have a conversation with him. | ||
| That would be really cool, yeah. | ||
| I'm going to try and reach out to him on Twitter, see if we can get in touch with him. | ||
| That would be really cool. | ||
| I think we should do that. | ||
| On Thursday, this article came out. | ||
| And of course, there's a lot of news in the world. | ||
| Alex Jones has to take up a bunch of his program to talk about it. | ||
| I would guess that he's going to talk more about Alex Jones-related things than non-Alex Jones-related things. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| It's interesting that you would say that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm going to, after I play this... | ||
| Because he's a narcissist. | ||
| I'm going to read some selections from this article after we get done with this clip, but I want you to see what he's focusing on. | ||
| In this clip. | ||
| I think it's pretty important. | ||
| First off, BuzzFeed is reportedly $100 million in debt. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| But also... | ||
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Wait, why would you even make that up? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| They're not even a publicly traded company yet. | ||
| They're about to have their IPO next year, probably. | ||
| BuzzFeed, just to show how they're failing but propped up like the New York Times... | ||
| Which is also not failing. | ||
| ...had a reporter for months... | ||
| I even got a call to one of our old shipping department guys, Matt, who was a great guy. | ||
| He was getting married. | ||
| They wanted to move back to Maine. | ||
| He said he literally got called 20 times until he was going to file a complaint for harassment. | ||
| How much he was getting called by BuzzFeed. | ||
| And I read this article they wrote, and it's literally 95% total made-up crap. | ||
| So they had a guy for months doing this just to, I guess, make it look like it's real. | ||
| And then the weird little stories in there that are just totally made up are so complex. | ||
| You know, you even think it's real. | ||
| And I pass it around to people that have been there and said, none of this is even true. | ||
| They didn't talk about my dog. | ||
| The only thing true in there that I saw was that I buy people steak dinners and stuff. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And I'm always buying office lunch. | ||
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What? | |
| Every week or so, I just like doing it. | ||
| You know, get catering in. | ||
| That's why Matt from Shipping loves you so much. | ||
| There was just nothing there. | ||
| It was like, I'm obsessed with Rush Limbaugh, and I hate him, and I have a fake voice. | ||
| I mean, I've openly said, I've criticized Limbaugh before, but I've said I hope he stays on air. | ||
| I don't want to be in a time slot up against him. | ||
| That's what DCN made me do 19 years ago. | ||
| And I spent money on his show, and they were boycotting him and led a movement. | ||
| For people to advertise to keep him afloat? | ||
| Never got a thank you for it? | ||
| Limbaugh before he went down. | ||
| Anyways, BuzzFeed. | ||
| I'm going to get to BuzzFeed. | ||
| Implants he's got. | ||
| Sounded with a very smooth, booming, nice voice. | ||
| I have a raspy voice. | ||
| I've been to the eye-nose, you know, throat doctor. | ||
| And they said, yeah, you have big lesions on your larynx from screaming. | ||
| Back when I used to scream at rallies without bullhorns, the point I'd cough up blood. | ||
| Who is this for? | ||
| I didn't have a very deep voice. | ||
| It wasn't a high voice. | ||
| But all the bullhorning and not bullhorning and screaming that I've had to go to specialists now. | ||
| And I've had sleep studies done too. | ||
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I have obviously really bad sleep apnea because I have a big head. | |
| Big chest. | ||
| Big dish. | ||
| I lost some weight, so it's a lot better than it used to be, but I was really bad. | ||
| I had oxygen like 64% sometimes. | ||
| So, I mean, you're asking why he's going through this. | ||
| It's to make himself a victim. | ||
| Yeah, he's trying to be like, why are you picking on little old Alex Jones? | ||
| Look at all of my problems that I have going on. | ||
| He's choosing one paragraph from BuzzFeed's thing to discuss, and I'll read this to you. | ||
| It's discussing during the Obama years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Others close to Jones during this time said that despite a growing audience, the broadcaster was insecure. | ||
| Two former colleagues said Jones reserved his greatest resentment for Rush Limbaugh. | ||
| The jealousy was so intense that Jones began to crib his now famous crushed gravel voice from the talk show legend. | ||
| Quote, We'd spend weeks getting everything just right in the studio, a former employee recalled. | ||
| Then he'd go for a drive and hear Rush again and say, I need my voice to sound something like that. | ||
| And so we'd completely re-engineer the sound to make him gruffer. | ||
| So, listen. | ||
| I mean, I guess that's fine. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| It's kind of petty and superficial, but yeah, who cares? | ||
| Well, I mean, if you want to... | ||
| It's the most irrelevant thing in this entire article. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, like, these Infowars employees that they got to speak to them are all anonymous. | ||
| Well, they have to be. | ||
| They sign lifetime non-disclosure agreements. | ||
| I feel like you can't do that. | ||
| And Alex knows that. | ||
| And so he can deny, flatly, everything that these people say, and he knows that they won't come out and say, no, I said that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He knows that it'll never get proved, because then those people will get sued. | ||
| Yeah, but I feel like a lifetime nondisclosure is illegal. | ||
| I know we discussed this. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| But I feel like it has to be. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's a thing you can willingly enter if it's a part of employment. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
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Yeah, but isn't there a moral authority saying... | |
| No. | ||
| Not in the law. | ||
| Oh, that's a good point. | ||
| I forgot that the law has nothing to do with morality. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| I'm going to get to some of the more stuff from this article, but I want to close out this clip because it ends so funny. | ||
| Quit breathing quite a bit. | ||
| And, you know, you know all this in your reading where you have a fake voice. | ||
| I mean, I may have to have surgery. | ||
| Because my ragged, torn up voice about five years ago was kind of cool. | ||
| I've lost control of range, and it's getting deeper and more raspy and more torn up. | ||
| I have like an 85-year-old's larynx. | ||
| It's sexier. | ||
| And then it said, re-engineer the sound to make me gruffer. | ||
| I've told them. | ||
| CJ, get ready when we come back. | ||
| I've told CJ, who's one of our great engineers, and Wes. | ||
| Over and over again make me less gruff and less raspy. | ||
| And Nico, when he got hired, was honest and said he thinks my voice is grating. | ||
| I've said that over and over again. | ||
| I don't like my voice. | ||
| Some people do. | ||
| This is the opening for Doctor Who, right? | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| This is my voice. | ||
| Some people like it. | ||
| Some people like it. | ||
| Women do. | ||
| You were talking over him saying that. | ||
| I know. | ||
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It's just a Doctor Who theme came into my head. | |
| But yeah, he just basically said, the only people who like my voice, It gets ladies wet. | ||
| Or women. | ||
| It gets ladies wet. | ||
| They sit on speakers while I scream about the globalists. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| So that's the only, like, that's all he's going on. | ||
| He just did like a four or five minute bit about, my voice is real, I got larynx polyps. | ||
| Yeah, I feel like he probably isn't going to engage with like the meat. | ||
| Of the criticisms, maybe? | ||
| Well, it's even like the article itself is called Alex Jones Will Never Stop Being Alex Jones. | ||
| That's a perfect angle to take on it, because yeah, that's absolutely right. | ||
| The thrust of the article is largely not about how he's fake, it's about how he can't stop himself from being himself. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he is... | ||
| His own worst enemy, essentially. | ||
| So the real problem is that he's too real. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So for like four minutes, he's talked about this voice stuff. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| I'm going to read you some excerpts from this amazing article. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| So this is about his early days. | ||
| Jones was a modest public access success, but he owes his first real media job to his dentist father. | ||
| Who solicited a station manager at the Austin talk radio station KGFK during a routine teeth cleaning. | ||
| He said... | ||
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So the dentist was cleaning the dude's teeth? | |
| He's got shit in the guy's teeth. | ||
| He's like, hey, by the way, you want to give my son a job, don't you? | ||
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Poke? | |
| Poke? | ||
| You want to give my son a job, don't you? | ||
| Oh, you want to keep that teeth? | ||
| And this is substantiated. | ||
| Quote... | ||
| He said, my son's got some out there ideas, but I think he'd be perfect, Daryl O 'Neill, the KGFK manager who brokered the deal, explained. | ||
| Quote, the next week he brought Alex in for a meeting. | ||
| To secure Jones a spot on the station, Jones' father became his son's first on-air sponsor. | ||
| Daddy bought him a job. | ||
| All of his complaints about people taking shortcuts and all this, he... | ||
| His entire career. | ||
| Now, granted, he's made a lot of good moves since. | ||
| He's parlayed some nepotism into a whole lot more than most people. | ||
| Absolutely, but all of it comes from his dad. | ||
| That's super fucked up. | ||
| I mean, you know, the more we learn about his growth as a human being, the more we see daddy issues, mommy issues. | ||
| So here's a little thing about his personality. | ||
| Others who knew him at this time, that is back in the KGFK days. | ||
| Remember Jones is volatile, easily bruised, and prone to vengeance. | ||
| One associate recalled Jones tearing down bulletin board memos from fellow station producers who'd criticized one of his more controversial segments. | ||
| And an Austin Chronicle article from July 2000 cites multiple public access producers who claim, quote, that Jones has used both ACAC policy and legal maneuvers to intimidate them or get them thrown off the air. | ||
| Which he claims the globalists are doing to him. | ||
| And ACDC policies as well. | ||
| He is always back in black. | ||
| He's got big balls. | ||
| Quote, being on TV or radio has a way of changing you, Austin Chronicle founder Louis Black, an early Jones critic and frequent target of Jones' early rants said. | ||
| Not the professional ranter Louis Black. | ||
| And for Alex, it was always, always about ego. | ||
| When he got that validation, there was no going back. | ||
| That's from someone who was... | ||
| Very involved with him early on. | ||
| Quote, Oh, this is a nice confirmation of something we've discussed and a theory we've had. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Quote, Sometimes he'll say he has sources and he's been told a piece of news has been confirmed, but we wouldn't have that information, a former Infowars employee said. | ||
| Quote, Later we'd find out that it was because a week earlier we had a caller on air who theorized about something and Alex repeated it as fact. | ||
| Aha! | ||
| It's true! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| We've figured it out. | ||
| But we've also just literally seen that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We've seen it happen in the Y2K episode. | ||
| We haven't really talked about it, but after the inauguration, during the post-inauguration celebration, he was talking to an Indian dude who explained that Islam believes that every country that believes in Islam is the house of Islam, and everything outside of it is the house of war, and there needs to be war on all of these places. | ||
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Right. | |
| Alex has repeated that verbatim repeatedly. | ||
| Just because some random dude told him. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| He never said it before that guy on the street. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| So he just absorbs things that he likes that people tell him and then just turns them into truth in his brain. | ||
| I got sources. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Kate Starbird, a professor and researcher at the University of Washington, accidentally stumbled upon Infowars'digital footprint while conducting a study of how rumors spread on Twitter during the 2013 Boston bombing. | |
| Starbird found that a specific rumor that Also, I could not love Starbird more. | ||
| Yeah, that's great. | ||
| That's perfect. | ||
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Starbird! | |
| was largely attributable to InfoWars tweets and links, second only to YouTube. | ||
| At the time, we thought this was pretty insignificant, she said, but things look very different in hindsight. | ||
| I accidentally threw the very in there. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| Things look different in hindsight, but in our world, they look very different in hindsight. | ||
| I was editorializing a tiny bit. | ||
| I have to call myself out. | ||
| You took her quote out of context. | ||
| That's not what she said. | ||
| When the Fukushima nuclear disaster happened, Alex bought tons and tons of potassium iodide, and oh my god, did we sell that, a former employee recalled. | ||
| He can sell 500 supplements in an hour, another countered. | ||
| It's like QVC for conspiracy. | ||
| Yep, we nailed that. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
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According to one former employee, Jones bragged that the InfoWars store grossed $18 million between 2012 and 2013. | |
| Wow. | ||
| Another source puts that number closer to $10 million, and this was before the popularity Jones and Infowars enjoy today. | ||
| Part of the success of the store came from Jones' ruthless deal-making. | ||
| Quote, I watched him on the phone with some poor author who'd written a book Jones wanted to buy, and Jones would negotiate him down until he's making no money, Jack Blood, a former radio colleague, said. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Two former employees alleged that Jones would instruct staff to find products that were failing and convince them to whittle their margins to almost nothing in exchange for the Infowars endorsement. | ||
| Quote, Alex's business model was to ensnare these companies at a low rate and lock in exclusive The former staffer said, noting that attaching the InfoWars brand to a product often destroyed a seller's future prospects to go mainstream. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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For some employees... | |
| The shift from what they saw as a crusader journalism to content marketing for colloidal silver was jarring. | ||
| Quote, Okay, well, fuck that guy. | ||
| No, he quit. | ||
| Yeah, but he quit because he was like, man, I thought this was all about the conservative ideals and the fight against the globalists. | ||
| You sold out, man. | ||
| You sold out. | ||
| At the same time, I hear what you're saying, but I think that you could make a much better argument for being involved in it at that point than once it gets to the colloidal silver marketing. | ||
| That's unacceptable. | ||
| Having a conservative belief and believing that this guy is on the vanguard of that? | ||
| It's understandable. | ||
| It's not good, but it's understandable. | ||
| But we know his conservative beliefs. | ||
| But it's easy to get duped. | ||
| You know? | ||
| No, I'm not going to be on this dude's side. | ||
| Fuck that guy. | ||
| I'm going to give him a wide berth. | ||
| Or her, I don't know. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Four former staffers suggested that this influx of money inspired the greatest change in Jones' demeanor and in Infowars' strategy. | ||
| Quote, In interviews, four separate employees, unprompted, described Jones as, quote, a tyrant who oscillated maniacally between excitement and anger. | ||
| Quote, working for Alex was like a combination of black beard meets Hitler, one former employee said. | ||
| One minute just on a high and swashbuckling and calling us to action. | ||
| The next punching out walls. | ||
| Neither of the... | ||
| Blackbeard was a bad dude. | ||
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Which one is the guy who punches out walls? | |
| The Hitler is more likely to be swashbuckling in this circumstance. | ||
| Hitler couldn't punch a wall. | ||
| Hitler was known for punching out Jewish drywalls. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| Two former employees recall that after an employee left the company, Jones would call a staff meeting, pull up YouTube videos of their work, and take turns making fun of them. | ||
| Quote, the unsaid implication, a former employee said, was that if you leave, this will happen to you. | ||
| Quote, Jones rewards the people who buy in all the way, one former employee said. | ||
| But there's an expectation not to contradict him or the message. | ||
| I mean, some of that stuff... | ||
| That's abuse. | ||
| That is abuse, but that's still... | ||
| What you are getting the criticisms about are literal corporate culture. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's kind of the issue. | ||
| Now he's making money. | ||
| He's a brand. | ||
| So he's just a corporation now. | ||
| And what corporation isn't going to reward people that buy in the most? | ||
| But I used to work at Groupon, and if we had a meeting after someone left and they were making fun of how bad their work was or something like that, I would... | ||
| I would be so uncomfortable. | ||
| That's unacceptable. | ||
| It is unacceptable. | ||
| And that kind of environment is hostile, that's abusive, and that quote, the idea that the implication is that when you leave, we will do this to you, keeps people in line. | ||
| That's cult behavior. | ||
| Well, yeah, but that's the same shit they do at Target. | ||
| Not to that extent, though. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| If you see some of the anti-union shit at Target and the like, they go real far there. | ||
| But now you've got to unpack the union implications of that. | ||
| That's different than just like, hey, you guys see how that asshole restocked the shelves? | ||
| And I don't think there's a parallel you can draw because it is sort of creative work in terms of Infowars. | ||
| It's very creative. | ||
| Creative slash... | ||
| In that it's fiction. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's different than stocking shelves. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Here is a quote that really gets into... | ||
| This is the last paragraph I'm going to read. | ||
| You should all read this entire article. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| But this one is about some of the... | ||
| It sort of validates a lot of the theories we have about the political landscape right now. | ||
| According to one person present at Infowars Studio on election night of 2016, Jones boasted of having 18 million viewers as the returns came in. | ||
| Quote... | ||
| Now, Jones is probably exaggerating, the source said. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But even if it's half that, you're talking serious influence if you can get them voting. | ||
| Alex doesn't have listeners. | ||
| He has followers. | ||
| The audience Jones had spent decades building had finally made its presence known at rallies on social media and finally at the polls. | ||
| Quote, that rural vote for Trump nobody saw coming, the source continued, it wasn't only Alex, but I think you can ascribe a significant portion, many first-time voters, of those votes to him. | ||
| Quote, He's like the Goebbels of 2016, another longtime Jones associate said. | ||
| He really won the election for Trump. | ||
| Uh, yeah. | ||
| But then it also... | ||
| I mean, yeah, that's... | ||
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But that's why we're here. | |
| Like, we've sussed that noise out pretty quick. | ||
| The article also goes on to say that he probably didn't want Trump to win because then the whole liberals in charge, we've got to defend conservatism, that whole thing goes away. | ||
| Well, and as we've seen, because Trump won, his shift has been jarring and uncomfortable, and almost certainly due to that extra influence and extra visibility, that's where all of these lawsuits and shit are coming from. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| If Hillary was president and he had the liberals to rail against... | ||
| None of this shit would be coming on him. | ||
| Yeah, he wouldn't be getting sued by Hillary. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I mean, Google. | ||
| Chobani's probably not going to lawsuit him. | ||
| I mean, they definitely have a... | ||
| They lawsuit him because he slandered them. | ||
| Right, right, absolutely. | ||
| But now that he's very visible, it's much more... | ||
| Like, I don't think there's any surprise to the timing of Chobani's lawsuit. | ||
| Once people started watching him... | ||
| No, actually, that's not, I don't think. | ||
| I don't think that's the case. | ||
| I think that the timing of the lawsuit coincides with the closure of the court case that had to do with the children in Twin Falls, Idaho. | ||
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Oh! | |
| That case ended recently. | ||
| So that case just ended. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so after that, they wanted a retraction, and Alex did his bullshit. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So I don't think it's because he's influential. | ||
| It's just a coincidence that it was happening at the same time as the very public custody case. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| And I think it's very unfortunate timing for Alex. | ||
| It's very unfortunate timing for Alex. | ||
| But we've heard some of the scathing stuff that's in this article. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And now I'll go back to Alex returning from break and see if he gets into any of it. | ||
| By the way, my mic suddenly sounds different. | ||
| I don't normally talk about myself, but we're under such attack we have to actually say the truth. | ||
| BuzzFeed, who's under a lot of fire for their internal documents coming out, where they were gloating and hoping that Trump would be killed, their leader over there. | ||
| He's referring to private messages between BuzzFeed writers that were joking about the idea of Trump being assassinated. | ||
| It's probably inappropriate, but at the same time, it's not editorialized. | ||
| I don't give a fuck if it's inappropriate. | ||
| But it's also not official, it's just them goofing off in private messages. | ||
| Do you mean like normal people are doing every single goddamn day on the street? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| A guy for several months calling people I knew in college, my first jobs, trying to get somebody who didn't like me to make something up. | ||
| And I guess they did. | ||
| I mean, I'm reading this article, Alex Jones will always be Alex Jones. | ||
| And the only true thing in it is that I'm not an actor. | ||
| And I really believe what I say and what I do. | ||
| That's two things. | ||
| Then they go on using unnamed people to make up that I didn't want Trump to be elected, that I didn't want Obama to be defeated in 2012, and that my voice is fake. | ||
| And then I told the producers that I want to sound gruffer. | ||
| No, I believe my voice is grating and annoying at times, and I said I want to sound smoother and like I'm in the room. | ||
| And I've had engineers here doing that with my engineers, and it's all on record. | ||
| So that's the level of lies in here, that I have a fake voice. | ||
| All on what record? | ||
| And that I'm trying to sound like Rush Limbaugh. | ||
| Folks, Rush Limbaugh, before he went deaf, that's politically incorrect, before he became hearing impaired. | ||
| No, that's not how that works. | ||
| It has a great, smooth, booming voice. | ||
| Pretty sure nobody cares. | ||
| I have, when I get excited, it's almost like a high-pitched, low voice. | ||
| It's very annoying. | ||
| High-pitched, low voice. | ||
| And so I've asked them to take the raspiness out to be less gruff. | ||
| It's very much a deaf-pitched hearing person. | ||
| Am I wrong, CJ, one of our engineers? | ||
| Because as soon as I came back live, I was saying, take the raspy, gruff filter off. | ||
| We have a filter to block that. | ||
| That's actually my directive. | ||
| The opposite, again, of what BuzzFeed says. | ||
| Just so it's all pure bull. | ||
| Why are you fighting this battle? | ||
| Why is this the area where he's like, look, nobody says that my voice isn't my voice! | ||
| It's the least interesting or important thing in that article. | ||
| If it was anybody else, I would say this is a distraction from dealing with the reality of the article. | ||
| I think this is 100% the thing he is most angry about. | ||
| That idea of, you guys are saying that I wanted to change my voice to sound like that guy? | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I sound like me. | ||
| Well, there's a part of it that's that, and then I think the other part is just that it naturally fits into his narrative that he's already spinning about, like, people thinking he's an actor, which, again, is based on something his lawyer said. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| But, like, I think that it's because, like, oh, this matches. | ||
| He's good at finding pieces of things that fit what he's already doing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then just sort of incorporating them in. | ||
| He's kind of like a bullshit black hole. | ||
| But it's like a specific black hole. | ||
| He's got a gravity engine behind him. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| He goes on another, like, couple minutes talking about his voice not being fake. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So he spends at least, like, ten minutes covering that. | ||
| Nothing about the substantial... | ||
| Covering that is a very interesting way of putting it. | ||
| So that's how he spent a lot of his Thursday show. | ||
| Now let's go back to Wednesday. | ||
| We go to breaking news. | ||
| Somebody said my voice doesn't sound right. | ||
| Yeah, among many other way worse things. | ||
| We're going to have several guests discussing whether or not my voice sounds like this. | ||
| Hey, Lionel, how's my voice? | ||
| I'm going to play clips from the Joe Rogan podcast so you guys... | ||
| You guys know what I sound like when I'm not on Infowars? | ||
| It sounds very similar. | ||
| We've got lispy-ass Mike Cernovich coming in to talk about voices. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Like, the rest of the time, it's just every guest discussing what their voice sounds like. | ||
| Mike Thurnovich coming in to talk about how my lisp is real. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| And I feel actually a little bit bad about it. | ||
| They're even saying that Rappaport sounds like he has dentures. | ||
| Rappaport doesn't have dentures. | ||
| Those teeth are twice as real as everybody else's. | ||
| That's because they're made from real teeth. | ||
| They're American-made teeth. | ||
| He had his teeth removed, melted down, and then rebuilt into teeth and put them back in his mouth. | ||
| And it was done by an American company. | ||
| These are Americana teeth. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's what's important about Rappaport. | ||
| Do you know who wore John Rappaport's teeth originally? | ||
| I don't. | ||
| George Washington. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It doesn't get more American than stealing George Washington's teeth. | ||
| So he's on some bullshit. | ||
| But let's go back. | ||
| National Treasure 3. Let's get those teeth. | ||
| I am still seriously waiting for National Treasure 3. I'm very excited for it to eventually come out. | ||
| Is there... | ||
| Was there only two? | ||
| There's National Treasure and the National Treasure Book of Secrets? | ||
| Yeah, and then the third one I've actually sort of written a spec script for. | ||
| Or at least an outline. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It has to do with Nicolas Cage, also known as Benjamin Franklin Gates, in the movie. | ||
| That's not real, is it? | ||
| Yeah, that's his character's name. | ||
| That's real? | ||
| Yeah, so he finds out... | ||
| I guess that must have just broken my brain to the point where I just skipped over. | ||
| I was like, no, we don't need to do this. | ||
| That's Nicolas Cage. | ||
| His name, in every movie Nicolas Cage is in, his name is Nicolas Cage. | ||
| Yeah, so Nicolas Cage, in this movie, he finds out that Napoleon never died and was actually taken to space. | ||
| And from space, he's been planning an invasion. | ||
| He's going to take over America. | ||
| But the secret in order, like the plans of how to stop him are underground in Arlington Cemetery. | ||
| So in order to get to these plans, he's got to become president and then fake his own death. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| To get underground at Arlington Cemetery, get the plans, and stop Space Napoleon. | ||
| He has to become president! | ||
| Regardless of the rest of that. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That's the main idea that... | ||
| Book that National Treasure 3 should have. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Benjamin Franklin Gates has to become president. | ||
| Yeah, but as a con. | ||
| As a con. | ||
| Yeah, well, yeah. | ||
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Becoming president is incidental to his plans, somehow, yes. | |
| Anyway. | ||
| National Treasure 3, colon, president in 60 seconds. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I want, first of all, I would love it if that was the plot of the movie. | ||
| Even if it's not, I need a third one. | ||
| I love those movies so much. | ||
| But let's go back now to Wednesday. | ||
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| We're going to go back to the beginning of the telethon. | ||
| Wednesday, 12 o 'clock Central. | ||
| 11 o 'clock Central? | ||
| Yeah, 11 o 'clock Central. | ||
| Alex Jones is kicking things off, and he starts off Wednesday's show very weird. | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| This is the opening of the telethon. | ||
| Yeah, and throughout this, you're going to see something really strange in Alex. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And it's a trend that I think... | ||
| Is going to blossom in the coming weeks and months. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And that is a change that was inevitable. | ||
| I've got this to say. | ||
| Trump is really going off his trajectory more and more. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| We sent you to drain the swamp. | ||
| And you're not quite doing that with this new spending bill and a few other things you're doing. | ||
| Well, here's the deal. | ||
| Trump is draining the swamp. | ||
| But it's like it's a video game. | ||
| He's like fighting the big crime boss at the end of the level. | ||
| And the power level of the boss is going down. | ||
| But as Trump battles the globalist, he's looking into the eyes of the devil. | ||
| He is slowly becoming them. | ||
| So he's doing all these great things, but at first he was 100% the first 30 days. | ||
| Then 60 days later he was at 98%. | ||
| Then 70 days later he was at 95%. | ||
| And then now he's at like 70%. | ||
| Hell, he was at like 80% a few days ago. | ||
| Trump is unraveling quickly. | ||
| I will just tell you that. | ||
| And I think everybody can see it. | ||
| Now, he wouldn't have done all the things he did if it wasn't for real. | ||
| These are devastating blows against the globalists. | ||
| These are real things. | ||
| Declaring sovereignty. | ||
| Getting big banks to loan to small businesses, killing TPP, making better trade deals with China, Mexico, beginning to build the wall, you know the funding's not there, but not killing Obamacare when they had the conservative votes, bringing up that watered-down version. | ||
| Well, it wasn't as bad as Obamacare, but... | ||
| I want to point out that this is before the House passed the Trump care stuff, so he doesn't know about that yet. | ||
| So I'm sure he's not yet jerking off about how cruel it is. | ||
| He seemed pretty excited once that did break, because that broke on the Thursday show. | ||
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| He didn't, or was it Friday? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know, who cares? | ||
| Whenever, whenever. | ||
| He didn't get into it. | ||
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Right. | |
| But he was like, oh, they passed it. | ||
| Senate's gonna pass it. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So in that, he's saying, first of all, it's amazing that he's starting to lay the tracks for him to get off the Trump bandwagon. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| As we predicted, this was going to happen. | ||
| It's absolutely inevitable. | ||
| But the things that he's still holding water for are things that aren't real. | ||
| He did get out of the TPP. | ||
| That's one true thing in that list of stuff he's saying he's done. | ||
| He finalized that? | ||
| Oh, I guess I didn't see that. | ||
| I didn't see that we withdrew from the... | ||
| He declared intent to withdraw from it or whatever. | ||
| Oh, but that's not a thing. | ||
| But it does indicate, and there are a lot of people who want that to happen. | ||
| It probably will happen if it hasn't already. | ||
| I would bet against that. | ||
| I don't understand the finalization process and shit like that. | ||
| We're not working out better deals with China. | ||
| Definitely not. | ||
| Unless you consider all the trademarks they've given Trump personally to be working out better deals. | ||
| Trump is working out way better deals with China. | ||
| Beyond that, the wall is never going to happen. | ||
| It can't. | ||
| Because it's impossible and stupid. | ||
| Mexico recently came out and said they would consider it a hostile act. | ||
| It would be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It doesn't get more hostile than building a fucking wall across a border. | ||
| And the comedy of it is that... | ||
| Like, you know how India and Pakistan aren't really good friends because of that giant wall on their fucking border? | ||
| Or East and West Berlin. | ||
| Yeah, you remember how that didn't go great? | ||
| Didn't go great. | ||
| So, the other thing that's... | ||
| Gorbachev! | ||
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Build a new wall. | |
| We fucked it up. | ||
| Space Reagan. | ||
| That's National Treasure 4. That's National Treasure. | ||
| Space Reagan. | ||
| Space Reagan versus Space Napoleon is a great movie. | ||
| The true comedy of it, though, is that, like, I've talked to a number of people who support Trump, and a lot of the idea that they support about the building the wall is they think it will block drugs coming into the country, not realizing that drug dealers have lots of boats. | ||
| And airplanes. | ||
| And most of the drugs that get smuggled into the country don't come through the border like that. | ||
| Airplanes can't fly over walls. | ||
| Build a taller wall. | ||
| And there's tunnels underneath the border. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| The wall goes underground. | ||
| I like this. | ||
| It is a laser wall. | ||
| It's like the heads at Easter Island. | ||
| They go way underground, too. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Here's my plan for a wall. | ||
| Like a doggy electric fence? | ||
| If you want a successful wall that is... | ||
| Impassable. | ||
| On the Mexico-United States border. | ||
| Alright? | ||
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Dig about, what? | |
| 20 miles underground. | ||
| Set off a nuclear warhead. | ||
| And hope volcanoes show up every single fucking fissure on the ground. | ||
| Otherwise, you're not building a fucking wall! | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Also, the idea that it's going to stop... | ||
| The drug stuff is what motivates a lot of people because the opiate crisis is bad. | ||
| Which, by the way, they're reducing funding for the agency that oversees helping people with the opioid crisis. | ||
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Headline! | |
| White House proposes cutting drug control office funding by 95%. | ||
| The budget that was proposed would entirely dismantle a lot of the organizations that are responsible for... | ||
| Helping fight the opiate crisis in the country. | ||
| So everybody who supports the wall for that reason, you need to look at the fucking mirror. | ||
| Trump doesn't give a shit about opiates. | ||
| He doesn't care that your families are struggling. | ||
| He doesn't care that you're suffering. | ||
| He cares about bigotry. | ||
| He cares about symbolic hatred. | ||
| He cares about this idea of promoting fear. | ||
| But above all else, what does he care about, Dan? | ||
| White nationalism? | ||
| Making his own fucking money. | ||
| That's true. | ||
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That's all he cares about. | |
| And I think he's actually taking a page out of Alex Jones' book and making a lot of money out of fear. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think that there is a part of... | ||
| He's maybe inspired by Alex a little bit. | ||
| Here's the only thing I want to say about that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And this, I think, is a discussion... | ||
| Here's what I want to say. | ||
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What? | |
| Everyone can fuck themselves. | ||
| See, that's kind of my thing. | ||
| I want to have compassion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what I want, right? | ||
| Because it's very clear that all of these people who voted for Trump were deluding themselves into thinking he was the thing that he very clearly wasn't. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And no matter how many times we told him he was the thing they thought he wasn't, they didn't believe us. | ||
| No. | ||
| So now they have to begin to know that he's not that thing. | ||
| Just like Alex Jones is saying, he's... | ||
| Gotten off track for what we thought he was going to be. | ||
| And Alex Jones is kind of a bellwether. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's like, if you've lost Alex Jones, if he's starting to turn on you, then shit's bad. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so that means... | ||
| And I think it's also an indication that he knows that something bad's coming. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, his sources are DT Jr. and such. | ||
| We're going to get to that. | ||
| But Alex Jones does talk about... | ||
| I mean, he talks to Roger Stone all the fucking time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And Roger Stone has to know that he is... | ||
| In big trouble. | ||
| Roger Stone's fucked. | ||
| He is in big trouble. | ||
| If Roger Stone escapes this one, I'm going to be really pissed. | ||
| I mean, he's a slippery dude. | ||
| He's survived a lot of political misfeelings. | ||
| I can see him seeking asylum rather than actually doing any jail time. | ||
| If anybody is smart, they will have taken away everyone's passports already. | ||
| Yeah, you would think. | ||
| These people are flight risks. | ||
| Now, let me ask you a question. | ||
| Have we seen anyone smart yet? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| There might be a ton of really smart people working behind the scenes that we are unaware of. | ||
| Entirely possible. | ||
| It doesn't seem like they're doing a very good job, though. | ||
| Here's the one thing, though. | ||
| They are getting fucked by Trump and the Republicans who they voted for faithfully for so long. | ||
| Apparently they had no idea they were going to get fucked. | ||
| They were going to let them die for tax cuts. | ||
| Yeah, and they are going to die. | ||
| There is no middle ground on this. | ||
| They voted for the people who are going to murder them. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Right? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Now, I want to feel compassion for them because I don't want people to get murdered. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And yet, at the same time, there is that part of my brain that says, fuck you. | ||
| Well, that's because we're going to die, too. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| It's not a situation where they've only doomed themselves. | ||
| They've doomed the rest of us, too. | ||
| Well, they've doomed themselves more, I think. | ||
| Legitimately, you and I are people who are in a position where we have pre-existing conditions. | ||
| Oh, the most. | ||
| To the point where our mental health, especially, will go off the rails real hard if we don't have certain protections. | ||
| Here's the thing, and I know that I sound maybe a little optimistic, but I have to believe that with the outpouring of attention, people calling reps and senators, I don't think that there's any way that a bill including that stuff would ever pass the Senate. | ||
| I don't think so either. | ||
| But, again, all of the stuff that I don't think has happened or would happen... | ||
| It's all happening. | ||
| ...seems to keep happening. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, there's no way Le Pen wins tonight. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| But I'll be goddamned if I'm not terrified by, like, 90%. | ||
| We'll get to that in a little bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But lest you think that Alex Jones is just dipping his toe in the water of Trump... | ||
| Denial? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| Trump denial. | ||
| Judicing? | ||
| I'm not exactly sure what is it. | ||
| Cucking. | ||
| He's cucking out Trump. | ||
| I don't think he is. | ||
| I think he's really in turmoil. | ||
| And he goes on to say a little more right here. | ||
| Occasionally we have to bring the Gorgon back from her crypt to just remind everybody the Medusa-like creature that we dodged. | ||
| Redundant. | ||
| Last year on November 8th. | ||
| Does that mean Donald Trump's perfect? | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| Does that mean we won't hold his feet to the fire? | ||
| Absolutely we will. | ||
| But Trump's done a lot of good. | ||
| He's also starting to do some pretty bad stuff. | ||
| And I expected this earlier, actually. | ||
| I said he got 30-40% done when he claimed he'd be legendary. | ||
| He's already pretty much gotten that done. | ||
| He's gotten so much done. | ||
| But it's still sad and, quite frankly, even more painful to try to figure out how he could be so good and do so much good for the average person and for national sovereignty and so much to expose political correctness. | ||
| And the United Nations and globalism, and then start going sideways. | ||
| It makes it even worse at a cellular gut level, doesn't it? | ||
| Well, I mean, like, let's talk about him exposing political correctness. | ||
| In the past, Donald Trump has threatened to sue people over jokes. | ||
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Yep. | |
| In the past, and, oh, recently... | ||
| Well, Jeff Sessions fucking got a woman convicted for laughing at him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That pathetic little... | ||
| Now... | ||
| Ah, fucking fuck that. | ||
| No, totally fuck that. | ||
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Fuck that. | |
| Fuck that. | ||
| We don't need to go into that. | ||
| Let's stick on topic. | ||
| Let me give a tiny discrepancy on that. | ||
| I'm totally against this woman being convicted or jailed at all. | ||
| But that's different than Trump suing somebody about making a joke about it. | ||
| Oh, absolutely agree. | ||
| Because... | ||
| In this case, you can hide behind a very cowardly explanation that this lady was disrupting Senate proceedings or something like that. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's dumb. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But you can make that argument. | ||
| I'm not saying it to you. | ||
| I'm saying it to anybody who would ever consider that argument as a rational thing. | ||
| But if you are super bad, you know... | ||
| Super bad. | ||
| You could conceivably make that argument. | ||
| Whereas with Trump, he's literally talked about suing newspapers that publish bad things about him. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Reince Priebus was on TV saying that they're talking about... | ||
| you can sue the press for saying negative, which is a complete deterioration of the First Amendment. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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It's insane. | |
| The idea, that's the most the negative stuff we talk about with political correctness, this is way beyond me saying, don't say tranny, say trans, or whatever. | ||
| That's not politically correct compared to, I'm going to sue you for writing something I don't That's... | ||
| I'm going to sue you for saying tranny instead of trans. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| It's so fucking simple. | ||
| It's so simple that both sides need to protect this thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because all you have to do is stop. | ||
| Like the religious liberty shit that they want to do where it's like you should be allowed to discriminate based on your religion. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| That is good for you. | ||
| So long as America is always a Christian nation. | ||
| It's the same argument we made with Obama expanding spying. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| It's not good because then we might get fucking Trump! | ||
| Like that kind of a thing. | ||
| It's so obvious that if you stop and just divorce yourself from your bullshit ideology for two seconds, you don't want these religious freedom bills to pass. | ||
| And even worse, I, you know, I don't believe in any of that religious bullshit, but you don't want me, like, you don't want to do a religious freedom bill there, because then if atheists take over, fucking, we can do the same shit to you. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Like, you don't understand that we have these protections for all of us. | ||
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This is meaningless. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. | ||
| I mean, we were talking about this last night. | ||
| It's, this is never going to pass the courts. | ||
| Like, it, it. | ||
| Well. | ||
| Gorsuch. | ||
| Well, I know. | ||
| That is sort of a wild card. | ||
| The five conservative justices at this point is a wild card. | ||
| But I think even some of those conservative justices wouldn't be into this. | ||
| Because it would violate the Civil Rights Act. | ||
| Right! | ||
| It's so maddening to me that people are not like... | ||
| They don't understand that fine distinction. | ||
| That is, if you pass this, this religious liberty thing, implicit in that is that if you're a business and your belief is that black people suck... | ||
| You can just say no blacks. | ||
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Yep. | |
| That's where we will be if this passes. | ||
| It's the exact same logic. | ||
| This is not a slippery slope. | ||
| This is just the application of the logic. | ||
| Take the same words, replace black with LGBT, and you have Jim Crow laws. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| It's absolutely discriminatory. | ||
| It will never pass. | ||
| And attorney generals have come out across the country saying that if this does get implemented, we will immediately sue. | ||
| And so it will be a huge fight, and there's no way that can pass. | ||
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And if it does, again, bedlam. | |
| It will be fire in the streets. | ||
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I don't... | |
| That's the thing. | ||
| I kind of... | ||
| I'm a little surprised we're not already at fire in the streets. | ||
| That's because we got this nice wine. | ||
| That is probably because we have... | ||
| We are plied with many distractions to keep us from... | ||
| Like, we're recording this when we could be burning things down, Dan. | ||
| Yeah, quite frankly. | ||
| Are we derelict in our duties? | ||
| For now. | ||
| But, I mean, like, the time will come. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See, that's the thing, though. | ||
| The time will come. | ||
| I... | ||
| See if I can do some Foley work there. | ||
| Please don't do that. | ||
| No, I agree with you. | ||
| I agree with you that it will never pass and that they will challenge it in court and that they will do all of this shit. | ||
| But at this point, our reality has been eroded so much by the far right that I don't have faith in fucking... | ||
| See, this is the exact conversation that was happening in the lead-up to the election and right after the election. | ||
| The idea of resisting the normalization of Trump. | ||
| This idea of our reality becoming so fucked up that things before that were unthinkable are now like, oh yeah, alright. | ||
| That's the normalization process. | ||
| In your brain, what you have to do is you have to think about in past times what would it look like if this individual event happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And try and hold on to that. | ||
| And if you do that, if you evaluate the things that are happening on a daily basis by putting it into, like, let's say, even during Bush's years. | ||
| Like, if you go back to that and say, like, huh, this happened under Bush, that'd be fucked up. | ||
| That'd be crazy. | ||
| But everything feels somehow weirdly normal. | ||
| People are being anesthetized to the differences. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's super fucked up. | ||
| That will be our undoing. | ||
| People just accepting things as normal. | ||
| The idea that this religious freedom bill is normal. | ||
| Yeah, so fuck yourself, freedom. | ||
| The idea that taking away people's healthcare, which is explicitly about the budget. | ||
| That they're going to be proposing. | ||
| Explicitly about the rich people budget. | ||
| They want people to die so billionaires can keep 200 million more dollars. | ||
| 200 million more dollars that they can't do anything with. | ||
| If you have a billion fucking dollars, what else do you need? | ||
| But that's why they also want to get rid of the estate tax and stuff like that. | ||
| It's not about them having money, it's about having a dynasty. | ||
| It's about being able to become the next old money. | ||
| It's like, you know, everybody fetishizes the idea. | ||
| We have the Carnegies and the Rockefellers and stuff like that, as opposed to, I don't know, Mark Zuckerberg, who has new money. | ||
| It is the distinction of royalty versus rich. | ||
| Yeah, they want kings. | ||
| They want to be kings. | ||
| Basically, or at least dukes or something like that. | ||
| And so that's what it is about for rich people. | ||
| That's the next phase of the game. | ||
| For you and me, it's making enough money to stay alive. | ||
| And for most people, that is the case. | ||
| We're engaged in a struggle. | ||
| And thankfully, I think for both of us, I'd say... | ||
| We have jobs that allow us to stay alive and, you know, I'm broke for the most part, but I'm comfortable broke. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Whereas if you're rich, you know, you maybe want to buy a nicer house. | ||
| Maybe you want to buy a nicer car. | ||
| When you're really rich, it's... | ||
| Legacy building. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's what it is for them. | ||
| Because you don't have to worry about ever being poor and not being able to eat. | ||
| You don't have to worry about, fuck, I can't pay my internet bill. | ||
| You've got to do something. | ||
| You've got to have something else to do. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's like, I mean, Alex Jones makes comparisons to video games all the time, but it is kind of like that. | ||
| You're playing the next level of the video game. | ||
| You keep going up level and level and level. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and I mean, that is how our brains work in that no matter how good a thing is, we get used to it and that becomes the baseline. | ||
| And so we're always searching for that next level up. | ||
| But it's still... | ||
| The thing that always boggles my mind about these rich people is that have they ever read a history book where rich people go too far and then everything's fine for them? | ||
| Like, do they not know that every time rich people take one step too far, all of a sudden there are fucking heads getting chopped off? | ||
| Well, my concern, I think, is that they have read those and they've taken lessons in terms of safeguarding. | ||
| From those things that have fallen people like Mary Antoinette. | ||
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Right. | |
| Or, you know, other people who have been fucked over by screwing over the poor. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, there are, unfortunately, negative lessons you can learn. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But like, oh, they just didn't oppress people enough. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, oh, they just pushed down even more. | ||
| See, but that's the thing that I think they, I think it's always arrogance that winds up taking them down. | ||
| Arrogance. | ||
| As Alex Jones might say. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Arrogance. | ||
| With this type of situation, I believe in calling your representative. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I do. | ||
| But? | ||
| But we're at the point now where it's clear that the House of Representatives is entirely purchased. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the obvious. | ||
| There's no other conclusion to make there. | ||
| And we're not here saying that the left or Democrats are great either. | ||
| We're not going to bat for them. | ||
| It's just it so happens that the way worse part of it is the Republicans. | ||
| And they don't represent their constituents, period. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| They hide from them. | ||
| They are bought. | ||
| So as important as calling your representative is, At this point, don't take 40,000 people and march down to the Capitol building. | ||
| Take 40,000 people to your nearest billionaire and surround his fucking house. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| You can't bring in cops, so then what are they going to do? | ||
| Are they going to bring in the National Guard to protect one billionaire's house? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| For 40,000 people just sitting around there? | ||
| And if they bring in the National Guard, isn't that the best optic for what the country is? | ||
| A billionaire is inconvenienced so the entire country, the entire nationalized military comes down on regular people. | ||
| Well, here's the fucked up thing. | ||
| I think more likely than the National Guard, what you'd end up with is something like Blackwater or some mercenary force protecting them. | ||
| Well, I mean, we've already got the fucking militarized police for the Keystone Pipeline and the water protectors there. | ||
| They're obviously willing to torture and murder us. | ||
| And I think the biggest problem is that it still hasn't really touched white people. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Like the Keystone Pipeline. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| We saw the cops murdering peaceful protesters. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Not necessarily murdering, but at the very least, yeah, doing everything they can to get real close. | ||
| Doing things that just luckily didn't lead to mass deaths. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Which they very easily could have. | ||
| And we all watch that. | ||
| The hosing people in sub-freezing temperatures is like... | ||
| No, absolutely somebody could have died. | ||
| That should be a war crime. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's torture. | ||
| If you saw on the news Russia did that, you'd be like, that's a human rights violation and it was happening in our fucking backyard. | ||
| If Russia did it, I'd be like, of course they did. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| That's fucking Russia. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it's us doing it to our own people because they're brown and we want to get that pipeline. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| And again, I'm sitting here supporting them as much as I possibly can. | ||
| It's short of, like, I donated money. | ||
| I did everything short of going there and getting my ass fucking frozen to death. | ||
| Eventually, it's going to start happening to people who are white. | ||
| And this leads me to my next point. | ||
| And I think after this we should move on because we're blowing real hard. | ||
| I'm mad! | ||
| We've got to get back to Alex. | ||
| The world is angering me! | ||
| As much as I want this to be you and me complaining about politics. | ||
| And maybe it will be as the show evolves and people donate more and we can do this every day. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But for now, it's still an Alex Jones podcast. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But I do think that it is eventually going to touch us. | ||
| And what is going to happen is there will be Kent State-style archetypical deaths. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Symbolic deaths that will happen. | ||
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| Not symbolic deaths. | ||
| They will be literal, but they will be turned into symbols. | ||
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| Martyrs. | ||
| And unfortunately... | ||
| It's bullshit that we can't take these people like Elton Sterling, these people who have... | ||
| Eric Garner, people who have been killed by the police as... | ||
| As the martyrs that they are. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That should be enough. | ||
| That should be more than enough. | ||
| But it's not. | ||
| Or the Sandy Hook. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Children were murdered, and we couldn't turn that into a rallying cry for gun control. | ||
| The worry is, are we too complacent? | ||
| Maybe we're screwed. | ||
| Yeah, are we too far gone? | ||
| Once I saw that we couldn't turn Sandy Hook into anything, I was like... | ||
| That's that. | ||
| We will never have gun control. | ||
| But you know one of the reasons we can't turn Sandy Hook into anything is because of people like Alex Jones. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| There are these propagandists out there who sow seeds of doubt into whether this really happened or not. | ||
| And then there are tons of people who are like, oh, you know what? | ||
| Of course they want to take our guns away. | ||
| So they create this fake incident in order to take our guns away. | ||
| It's all a plan all along. | ||
| So you have these people and I think, again, put a nice bow on it. | ||
| That's why we do this show. | ||
| It's in order to fight back against these sorts of things. | ||
| People like Alex Jones. | ||
| And ideally to fight back against the complacency. | ||
| And there's a lot more stuff that we should be doing, and I hope we will be doing in the future. | ||
| But for now, this is as much as we can do, because we've got to go to work. | ||
| God! | ||
| Fucking capitalism. | ||
| I've got to feed my cat, you know? | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Hey, that's why you guys should buy our bone broth! | ||
| It's made out of different bones. | ||
| We deep earth mine bones, right? | ||
| We got dinosaur bone broth. | ||
| Yeah, it's just Nesquik. | ||
| It tastes like chocolate. | ||
| Yeah, anyway, this next clip actually is very appropriate because Alex Jones has some thoughts about people calling themselves the resistance. | ||
| I bet he loves us. | ||
| So let's go ahead and start going through some of these clips. | ||
| Here's Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Includes herself as part of the resistance. | ||
| Ever since they lost in November of last year, seven months ago, they have been calling themselves the resistance. | ||
| The resistance. | ||
| I'm Stephen Gobert, and if you're watching this transmission, you are the resistance. | ||
| Now, I want to just stop there. | ||
| That's a really bad Stephen Colbert impression. | ||
| But I want to stop right there because his bumpers that he plays coming out of commercial breaks. | ||
| Do they have that same voice? | ||
| No, but more or less. | ||
| More or less. | ||
| But they literally say that. | ||
| If you're listening to this, you are the resistance. | ||
| So he's quoting himself, pretending that Stephen Colbert has ever said that, to mock Stephen Colbert. | ||
| I don't understand exactly what he's saying, but I get the sense of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that is that, like, you aren't the resistance. | ||
| We're the resistance. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You're co-opting our resistance. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm Keith Overman. | ||
| Russian scum. | ||
| Russian scum. | ||
| By the way, I'm Keith Overman. | ||
| I'm the resistance against the Russian takeover. | ||
| Kaip-ba-ba-ba. | ||
| That's what the establishment calls themselves is the resistance now because they're the globalists that have hijacked the government, taken over. | ||
| Trump was a beachhead of the resistance, a manifestation of how strong... | ||
| The nationalistic awakening is. | ||
| Whether he is totally real, goes sideways, or turns on us, which I don't think you'll do, doesn't matter. | ||
| In the final equation, because we've gone from being obscure, in the closet, demonized, the red-headed stepchild, to the paramount, fastest-growing global movement in the world against unelected worldwide tyranny known as globalism. | ||
| That is overt dog whistling. | ||
| Yup, that's white people. | ||
| White people. | ||
| White people, we haven't been allowed to celebrate our whiteness in so long. | ||
| That is speaking directly to people in internet communities, like the people who are on Stormfront, on Daily Stormer, and stuff like that. | ||
| I don't know if it's intentional on his part, but there's a piece of that that will lodge directly in their brain and be like, Oh, yeah. | ||
| This is our time. | ||
| We don't have to hide anymore. | ||
| And that's why at these protests you see people hiling all the time. | ||
| You see people with just straight-up neo-Nazi regalia. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| Nationalism is one thing. | ||
| What is happening right now is not nationalism. | ||
| White supremacy. | ||
| It's beyond white nationalism. | ||
| It is white Christian supremacy. | ||
| And it's... | ||
| Christian in very heavy air quotes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Just air quotes made of anvils falling on the rest of our fucking heads. | ||
| Yeah, so he talks about this, like, coming out of the closet stuff and what have you, and his next clip... | ||
| Coming out of the closet. | ||
| God, I hate these people. | ||
| So much. | ||
| Hating people who are different and then co-opting their terminology and ideas. | ||
| You know how miserable it is to have to hide your existence? | ||
| You know how terrible it is to have to live a lie every day so people don't judge you? | ||
| It's the worst feeling in the world, which is why we should come out... | ||
| And hate people who do that. | ||
| Also... | ||
| Hate gay people who've had to hide their very existence for so long. | ||
| We should hate them because it's so miserable to be in the closet all the time. | ||
| There's no way we could possibly understand our own fucking hypocrisy for one goddamn second! | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It's all about us coming out of the fucking closet. | ||
| Also, there's a great... | ||
| He plays a great Paul Joseph Watson report where it's about dear white people and what would happen if someone made a dear black people? | ||
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| Oh, we know what would happen if somebody made a Dear Black People. | ||
| It was called Birth of a Nation. | ||
| It was called Song of the South. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
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Uncle Tom's cabin. | |
| It's all just about how white people are the people who suffer the most racism. | ||
| God. | ||
| But anyway, this next clip is... | ||
| Back to the resistance idea. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I titled this clip, The Historical Lineage of Our Decline to Nothingness. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it is Alex Jones... | ||
| It's just Lionel's clip again? | ||
| No, because this goes back to the 50s. | ||
| Okay, all right. | ||
| Alex Jones explains the sort of waves of nationalism and stuff like that. | ||
| And he also really can't figure out how... | ||
| He didn't plan. | ||
| So he's going off the cuff and he keeps sort of placing people in the wrong wave. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's pretty funny. | ||
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| But also, I'll come at the end of this and explain why a lot of these figures he's throwing in are dumb to include. | ||
| And it's the Matt Drudges and the Alex Joneses and the Jerome Corses and the Pat Buchanans. | ||
| We're not giving credit here. | ||
| We're scientifically, historically laying out where we came from nothing but with the truth, going back to Barry Goldwater. | ||
| Started from the bottom. | ||
| And Phyllis Schlafly, 60, 70 years ago. | ||
| Phyllis Schlafly just died a month or so ago at, what, 97 years old? | ||
| Oh, that horrifying monster. | ||
| She was fighting when she was 25 years old as a young law graduate. | ||
| Bring her back to life so we can murder her. | ||
| How about breaking the glass ceilings? | ||
| That lady did it. | ||
| And then led the Americana movement after Barry Goldwater's death. | ||
| Phyllis Schlafly specifically was working to impose glass ceilings. | ||
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| Her first book that she published and brought her into prominence was Against Rights for Women. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| It was about how if we end up in the workplace, it's going to ruin a lot of our privileges that we have. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| And like being able to be a homemaker. | ||
| We get to stay home all day. | ||
| If you go to the workplace... | ||
| You wouldn't be able to raise your children. | ||
| Which, hey, and I want to say this 100%. | ||
| If there are women who don't want to work and want to be homemakers and are in an economic situation where that is possible, I don't look down on that. | ||
| That's totally fine with me. | ||
| Are you saying you support a woman's right to choose? | ||
| Yeah, and it's the same for men, too. | ||
| If you're in a situation where you want to be a stay-at-home dad and you can be, by all means. | ||
| Dude, that's like buying a shirt with Paul Joseph Watson's face on it. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's not very macho. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's for women. | ||
| Her whole thing was, let's not allow women who want to do that to do that, because it's going to ruin it for the rest of us. | ||
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| She broke the glass ceiling and then made one that's two inches shorter than that. | ||
| And made of steel. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So that's where he's starting his lineage. | ||
| Kill the ceiling! | ||
| That's where he's starting his lineage, is Phyllis Schlafly and Barry Goldwater. | ||
| Monsters. | ||
| Monsters both. | ||
| So we stand on their shoulders. | ||
| They were the first wave in the modern wave of reawakening. | ||
| Then the Ron Pauls and the Ronald Reagans were the second wave. | ||
| Didn't mean they were perfect, but they were the opposition to globalism. | ||
| They kept the flame alive. | ||
| Showed what real prosperity was in free market. | ||
| Then you come into the third wave. | ||
| Matt Drudge, Alex Jones. | ||
| And then you come into the fourth wave. | ||
| Jerome Corsi got left off that list. | ||
| Le Pen. | ||
| His dad was first wave. | ||
| His dad was a horrible Nazi. | ||
| Nazi! | ||
| Her dad was a Nazi! | ||
| The Nigel Farage's. | ||
| He's been around 20-something years, but he really peaked now in this third wave. | ||
| And then the fourth wave. | ||
| It's a very, very, very exciting time to be part of this, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Do you see that, though? | ||
| He couldn't keep his wave straight? | ||
| He was like, Le Pen in the fourth wave. | ||
| She's actually third wave. | ||
| Her dad was first. | ||
| Her dad was first wave. | ||
| Nigel Farage, he's fourth wave. | ||
| But he's been around for 20 years. | ||
| Also, I don't know if you've spoken to people who are in England and their thoughts about Nigel Farage. | ||
| Most people there know him as someone, like, a completely failed politician. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, he's run for office multiple times and just been... | ||
| Like, he would be like... | ||
| I would guess a more discredited version of Ross Perot. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like that sort of wheelhouse. | ||
| Or the Buffalo Bills. | ||
| The 90s Buffalo Bills. | ||
| Oh, I was going straight to Silence of the Lambs right there. | ||
| I was like, that is exactly what he is. | ||
| He definitely tucks his penis between his legs. | ||
| He thinks he's pretty. | ||
| Oh, he thinks he's so pretty. | ||
| So, I don't know, man. | ||
| I get what he's trying to say, but unfortunately it really reinforces this idea that there is a cabal. | ||
| And I hate to use the word cabal because I'm very against it in most contexts, but of the... | ||
| Conspiracy, you might even say. | ||
| Of Nigel Farage and his leanings in Britain, Le Pen in France, Putin in Russia, Trump here. | ||
| What he's doing is combining these things that aren't nationalism. | ||
| They're a weird globalist anti-globalism. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Like, all of these leaders from all around the world have come together to say that all around the world we shouldn't have these leaders. | ||
| And they all are related to each other. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Not, like, as a family. | ||
| They're all cheering for each other, which is so weird. | ||
| It's like, no, we don't want the UN, we want our own UN. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know about that. | ||
| Yeah, we want the Black Mirror world. | ||
| Like, they were the people who watched Black Mirror and were like, oh shit, that looks like good shit. | ||
| That doesn't work. | ||
| Doesn't look like a dystopia at all. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| I really need someone's Netflix password. | ||
| Oh, you still haven't seen it? | ||
| I watched the first three episodes and then almost started crying. | ||
| And I was like, I can't watch this anymore. | ||
| They're brutal. | ||
| And now I don't have a password. | ||
| I watched the one where everyone's on treadmills. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then the guy turns into a performance artist with his knife. | ||
| I was like, this is too real. | ||
| I had to back away from it. | ||
| I was like, no, no, no, no. | ||
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| I can't watch this anymore. | ||
| No, there's plenty of stuff that's like that where I get the point immediately and I'm like, this isn't... | ||
| Entertaining. | ||
| This is hurting me. | ||
| Yeah, I loved it, but it's still... | ||
| I'm trying to escape from this. | ||
| Why am I doing this to myself? | ||
| It was, yeah, the idea that I walked away from it with was like an incredible admiration for what they had achieved. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I can only watch one every three months or something like that. | ||
| No, watching The Handmaid's Tale was just like... | ||
| Handmaid's Tale. | ||
| Handmaid's Tale, sorry. | ||
| You sounded like Alex Jones there. | ||
| I did. | ||
| Hamdi! | ||
| Aiden's tale. | ||
| He refuses to, he always says handmaidens. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Yeah, no, watching it going like, yep, yep, yep, I want to shoot myself. | ||
| Yeah, I will watch that eventually. | ||
| Again, I need a password. | ||
| If you guys want to tweet me a password. | ||
| Anyway, this next clip, this next clip is what I would describe as anti-sexism sexism. | ||
| And it's Alex Jones. | ||
| Talking about Hillary Clinton. | ||
| We've got Joe Biden saying Hillary lost because she's a woman. | ||
| Record numbers of women voted for Donald Trump, and you know that. | ||
| Yeah, we do. | ||
| This has nothing to do with what is between somebody's legs. | ||
| It's what's between their ears. | ||
| A vagina. | ||
| And it shows the arrogance and the bravada and the hubris of the elite to try to sell a drugged-out evil crone with all of her evil record on the American people. | ||
| It's not about what's between your legs. | ||
| It's that you're ugly and a woman. | ||
| And a witch. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| I'm sure her lady parts are great. | ||
| I like lady parts. | ||
| It's your face that I don't like. | ||
| And if you really look at the statistics, if you look at the breakdown of the votes, it was white women. | ||
| It wasn't minority. | ||
| So if you want to say women overwhelmingly voted for Trump, that's not fair. | ||
| White women overwhelmingly voted for Trump, and that sucks. | ||
| Turns out white is more important than gender. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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What are we doing with our world? | |
| What's happening? | ||
| Are we sure we want to keep living here? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So this next clip, he goes on to... | ||
| You know how Alex Jones is really into just headlines and not the substance? | ||
| Loves it. | ||
| This is basically going to characterize and explain that he doesn't just think of the news that way. | ||
| He looks at life that way. | ||
| And it's very interesting. | ||
| Oh, that is interesting. | ||
| And if Trump isn't perfect, does it matter? | ||
| We still went for the package labeled patriot. | ||
| Labeled renaissance. | ||
| Labeled nationalism. | ||
| And it shows the awakening and it's a very positive thing in a very, very negative world. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| The 30-hour special transmission has now launched. | ||
| So it's like, yeah, we saw a box that said what we wanted it to say, and we just grabbed that one. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I mean, we didn't look what was inside it. | ||
| Obviously, it couldn't have been a Trojan horse of some sort. | ||
| No one was trying to con us at all. | ||
| This guy who has a history of being a con artist, he said he was a patriot. | ||
| So, I mean, even if we were wrong, we were right to be wrong. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| What? | ||
| What? | ||
| Look. | ||
| What kind of responsibility is this? | ||
| What world are we living in? | ||
| You know, it... | ||
| It's even more pathetic because Pandora's box wasn't labeled all the worst things in the world. | ||
| It looked great. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| The box was gilded. | ||
| It looked amazing. | ||
| We went for the box that said kill us all. | ||
| So I'm going to skip this next clip because he's really just lying about poll numbers. | ||
| He says that the polls were skewed 30 points in Clinton's favor. | ||
| Yeah, that makes perfect sense. | ||
| And I went back and did a bunch of research into it about the... | ||
| The bias that did exist in polls. | ||
| And generally what they do is that they give liberals like a 3% margin added on to the poll numbers. | ||
| And it's just because of voting registration discrimination that's been studied over time. | ||
| So the 30-point number is patently absurd. | ||
| Well, you didn't need... | ||
| Like, that's just patently absurd no matter. | ||
| Like, you don't even need... | ||
| If you have been alive and you've seen any election, there's never been a 30-point difference between fucking anything. | ||
| But he's just saying that, too, in order to build up this idea that Trump had a massive landslide victory. | ||
| Oh, he had a... | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He was the... | ||
| Yeah, he had the highest electoral college victory despite the fact that it was nowhere near the top five. | ||
| So now... | ||
| 20 30 so now at this point in the show we get into what will be a massive narrative of the show right he we've already discussed this on a past episode but there's news about it this is dealing with the idea that Obama stole money from Fannie and Freddie in order to fund Obamacare there have been some new breaking pieces to | ||
| How can there be new breaking pieces to something that is absolutely made up? | ||
| Our man, Jerome Corsi, has been digging. | ||
| He's been digging into it. | ||
| Corsi! | ||
| Corsi! | ||
| He's got us again! | ||
| So, this is going to take up a little bit of the rest of Wednesday's episode. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it's all bullshit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I will fully... | ||
| Well, it just... | ||
| There's no way you can listen to that opening without saying, oh, that's dumb. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| How would you even steal money from Fannie Mae and Freddie? | ||
| Well, it's actually pretty interesting, the truth of the situation. | ||
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| And I'll get into it after he establishes his life. | ||
| I knew you would. | ||
| You're so comforting. | ||
| I've got some other Hillary Clinton clips I want to play, but coming up in the next segment, this is all over CNBC, it's all over the Wall Street Journal, it's all over the New York Times. | ||
| Some of them even give us credit. | ||
| They don't. | ||
| Well, they want to say we're fake news because they're scared of us. | ||
| Because they know we can force big stories out. | ||
| One of Corsi's White House sources, I don't even know his sources. | ||
| Thanks to Alex Jones, we've got this story. | ||
| Fuck me. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| From MarketWatch and Fox Business, munition on Fannie and Freddie May funds used to pay for Obamacare. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| We broke this. | ||
| This broke on May 1st, two days ago. | ||
| It's May 3rd today. | ||
| Everybody's sort of pointing this out to me yesterday. | ||
| Did you know the news gave you credit? | ||
| Here's Dr. Corsi's article from yesterday. | ||
| Treasury Secretary confirms Infowars.com reporting on Obama theft of Fannie and Freddie May, close to $300 billion we know of. | ||
| That's just the documents that have been released from four years of Obama. | ||
| They still haven't released the others. | ||
| Corsi got these through lawsuits that the White House directed him to by private companies. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Fannie-Freddie profit payments should continue. | ||
| Treasury says, oh. | ||
| And here's the original article we put out. | ||
| February 27th. | ||
| That's two months ago. | ||
| Exclusive. | ||
| Obama literally robbed Fannie Freddie to fund Obamacare. | ||
| Exclusive. | ||
| So, he'll play the Steve Mnuchin clip later, and we'll discuss exactly what that was covering when he gets to it. | ||
| Back in February, we covered it when he first was pitching this narrative, and it was actually a slightly different thing. | ||
| At that point, it was about lawsuits. | ||
| That the government had against the housing market for their abuses that led to the crash and the bubble. | ||
| Those abuses that none of them were ever punished for and we should... | ||
| Well, financially they were punished a bit. | ||
| Yeah, a little bit. | ||
| But a lot of these liberal organizations like getting people housing and that sort of thing, they ended up getting a lot of money out of lawsuits. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| So this is that one. | ||
| No. | ||
| That was what they broke in February. | ||
| That was the lie that they spun then. | ||
| Now there's an entirely different narrative that's being pitched off that foundation. | ||
| But using the same... | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It still involves... | ||
| The same bullshit that we talked about then, they've just repurposed for this new bullshit. | ||
| Much like the Dennis Montgomery stuff, how they completely used the same kernel to make a new story once the first one was bogus. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're doing sort of the same thing with Fanny and Freddy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| These sorts of things. | ||
| Like how Roadrunner cartoons keep using the same background shots. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So his new narrative is that Obama is whole cloth stealing from Fannie and Freddie, their profits, in order to prop up Obamacare. | ||
| And he did this in 2012 because Obamacare was going to fail in 2012, which that, even on its face, isn't true. | ||
| So it's based on an interview that Steve Mnuchin did. | ||
| and man, I wish, maybe we should just go ahead and play that clip from later just so you have some context. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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I feel bad talking about it without it, but he doesn't get to the actual clip for like three hours. | |
| I just love that Obamacare is going to fail narrative where it's like, it's going to fail and you're like, wait, are you saying it's going to fail because you're going to defund it? | ||
| Is this a threat? | ||
| You guys could work on it. | ||
| You could make it... | ||
| More! | ||
| You could make it better! | ||
| So here, a little bit later... | ||
| Instead, they're like, get rid of it and burn everybody to the ground! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I agree with you 100%. | ||
| That's why I was just pushing towards the next clip. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| There's nothing to talk about other than my rage. | ||
| Yeah, and my agreement with your rage. | ||
| So, much further down the road, he ends up playing the Mnuchin clip, and it does not say what he thinks it says. | ||
| Alright, here is the Treasury Secretary Mnuchin. | ||
| On Fox Business a day ago saying that Dr. Jerome Corsi is absolutely on target. | ||
| He doesn't say that. | ||
| That indeed Obama was looting the money from Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac illegally. | ||
| He doesn't say that. | ||
| Because Congress wouldn't fund it to fund Obamacare in the second year of the program before it was even implemented fully. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
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There's a conversation going on on Twitter, and it has been for a long time, about how President Obama needed money for Obamacare and would take from all of the agencies and he took from Fannie and Freddie. | |
| Is that true? | ||
| It is true. | ||
| They used the profits of Fannie and Freddie to pay for other parts of the government while they kept taxpayers at risk. | ||
| And also, I understand that Fannie and Freddie were not, they were exempt from the Freedom of Information Act. | ||
| Just last week, I understand the bill that Kevin Brady, I'm sorry, Kevin McCarthy was pushing through, is about taking them out of being exempt. | ||
| The full clips in Dr. Courtsy's article on InfoWars.com. | ||
| Why did we cut it off at that specific point? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Alex is very strategic with his cut-offs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It seemed like there was a more interesting line of questioning that was about to follow that we bailed on. | ||
| Well, I looked into this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I found some good resources that indicate that they're not saying what Alex thinks they're saying. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But just because it's so much more fun this way, I found Breitbart telling them they're wrong. | ||
| So you looked for the petard they made upon which to hoist them. | ||
| All of this stuff is backed up by other non-Breitbart sources, but just because I want to use their weapon against them in the alt-right, I'm going to quote entirely from Breitbart about how this is wrong. | ||
| So, about that clip and Alex Jones' belief that this proves that Fannie and Freddie money was stolen and used for Obamacare. | ||
| Stolen. | ||
| The confusion appears to have arisen because of the way Bartolomo worded her question. | ||
| That was the interviewer in that case. | ||
| The Treasury put out a statement Wednesday, however, that makes clear that Mnuchin's answer was not meant to confirm any particular connection between Obamacare and the profits of Fannie and Freddie. | ||
| Because money is fungible, which means it can be moved around, one dollar here is the same as one dollar there. | ||
| It's all... | ||
| Do you mean dollars mean dollars no matter where? | ||
| Yeah, and when it's all money coming in, it can be used in different directions. | ||
| If there's a surplus from this place, you can use it to pay for a different thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Treasury's receipts of those profits fund everything the federal government does, from border patrols and military operations to the National Endowment for the Arts and public television. | ||
| Basically what that is saying and what that is explaining is that the money that comes in from Fannie and Freddie because of a settlement and because of the relationship that ended up having to happen in 2008 after the bubble burst, all that money does go to the government and it's just money that the government uses to fund itself. | ||
| Much like tax receipts. | ||
| Or the fucking Postal Service. | ||
| No, but the Postal Service doesn't make money. | ||
| They have. | ||
| In the past. | ||
| Well, the ban does. | ||
| Not anymore. | ||
| No, the Postal Service has many times in the past posted a surplus. | ||
| They've made money. | ||
| It didn't just become more Postal Service. | ||
| It was used to pay for other stuff. | ||
| Social Security has posted a surplus in the past. | ||
| When the baby boomers were so outnumbering their parents, Social Security made money. | ||
| They kept putting it into other stuff. | ||
| Money that comes into the government is put out into the things that the government does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's all money. | ||
| Let me read a description, again, from Breitbart of what happened in 2008. | ||
| The companies were taken over by the U.S. government in 2008 when officials feared their collapse could further destabilize the housing and financial markets. | ||
| Treasury provided hundreds of billions of dollars of funding while the Federal Housing Finance Agency, FHFA, became their conservator. | ||
| Under their original agreement with the U.S. Treasury, both companies were supposed to pay a dividend equal to 10% of their taxpayer funding, as well as a fee on the hundreds of dollars. | ||
| Right. | ||
| For years, however, neither company earned enough to pay the dividend, which forced them to draw even more from their bailout funds just to send the money back to Treasury as the dividend. | ||
| This circular draw, as it came to be called, threatened to put the companies into a death spiral, slowly eating away at the remainder of the Treasury backstop. | ||
| In mid-2012, Treasury and the FHFA agreed to change the terms of the bailout so that Fannie and Freddie would no longer have a fixed dividend, ending the need for circular draws. | ||
| Instead, each company would have a flexible dividend obligation that would rise and fall with their profits. | ||
| Because the new dividend is equal to the positive net worth of each company, less a small capital cushion set to decline each year, it's known as, quote, the net worth sweep. | ||
| At the time the net worth sweep was implemented, Treasury Department officials noted that in addition to ending the circular draws and death spiral, the arrangement would facilitate the eventual wind-down of the companies by preventing them from using profits to recapitalize as policymakers designed a safe, more stable mortgage finance system. | ||
| Oh, do you mean very similar to what is going wrong with the Greece situation? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And that they're not doing something sensible in there and say, okay, anyways. | ||
| Because every attempt at bipartisan mortgage finance reform legislation stalled out on Capitol Hill, neither company has been wound down. | ||
| Instead, they've remained in conservatorship and supported by taxpayer backing for more than eight years, a situation that nearly everyone involved in mortgage finance So we're in a situation where... | ||
| Because of how bad things got and how bad it could have gotten if we didn't make a change back in 2008 or 2012, we're in a situation where Fannie and Freddie give the fucking government billions of dollars, tens to hundreds of billions of dollars a year out of their profits in order to sustain themselves based on the bailout that was made in 2008. | ||
| This story that they're claiming is some kind of ooh thing is that money comes back to the government and some of it probably did go to Obamacare. | ||
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| Probably did, because you've got to pay for that somehow. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You have to. | ||
| Well, that money is ours. | ||
| It's fungible. | ||
| Well, no, not just that. | ||
| It's the money that's coming back to the government is the money we gave them. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's the loan. | ||
| We didn't give them a... | ||
| I mean, it's supposed to be a loan. | ||
| We gave them a great interest rate. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| An insanely great interest rate. | ||
| One that you could say was too great. | ||
| Possibly. | ||
| But, yeah, that's how money works. | ||
| This is Jerome Corsi's reporting busted by Breitbart. | ||
| How fucked up is that? | ||
| How fucked up is that that Breitbart, of all places, is pointing out that InfoWars is making a conspiracy theory? | ||
| You're Breitbart. | ||
| Hello, this is Steve Bannon. | ||
| Alex Jones, shut up. | ||
| I don't know why I gave him that voice. | ||
| I don't know where that voice came from entirely. | ||
| Was that supposed to be a Paul Joseph Watson? | ||
| No, I don't know. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I wanted to go against type with Steve Bannon's physique, so I went with that. | ||
| But I realized also I've never heard him talk, I don't think. | ||
| I don't think I've ever heard him talk either, but I feel like he has to talk like late period Orson Welles. | ||
| Dead? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So anyway, this is... | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
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| This whole story is complete bullshit. | ||
| And if you look into it a tiny bit, it does sound scary. | ||
| And there is that kernel of truth that we talked about on the 2015 episode. | ||
| That's the trick. | ||
| He's not as explicit about the kernel of truth anymore. | ||
| If he did, he could maybe make his argument sound even worse. | ||
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| Or even scarier. | ||
| But he doesn't. | ||
| But then he would have to deal with the fact that we're still doing that, aren't we? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I mean, we're still taking their... | ||
| Like, they're still taking that money. | ||
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| And they're using it to pay for things. | ||
| And there's no end in sight. | ||
| No. | ||
| This will be a system that's in place until that wind-down process they were talking about happens, and it's not happening. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| And, thank God it's not. | ||
| We would be in way worse shape if the government stopped backing them. | ||
| It's not an ideal situation to be in. | ||
| But the alternative is so much worse. | ||
| Which is, much like we talked about with Tetris last night, it's a situation where you have to accept a negative outcome sometimes in life. | ||
| It would be great if these were just completely independent, huge housing loaning businesses. | ||
| But unfortunately, a bunch of people fucked that up, and now we can't have nice things. | ||
| And also, on the list of our problems... | ||
| That one's way down there. | ||
| So he's going to get back to this narrative a bit, and he's going to bring in Jerome Corsi to lie a bunch about it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And we'll get to that in a minute, but before we do, I want to take us back to the other day. | ||
| We were talking about how Alex outed Donald Trump's sons as Cernovich's sources. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He, I think, got intense blowback. | ||
| Do you mean like he fucking should have? | ||
| Yeah, I think he probably got much like the Aliphantus email. | ||
| Do you think he got a call? | ||
| I think Cernovich probably was like, hey man, you can't do that fit. | ||
| He has a lisp. | ||
| I don't know how to fake a lisp. | ||
| You're doing Mike Tyson. | ||
| Listen, I'm gonna eat you hot. | ||
| I'm ferocious. | ||
| I love pigeons. | ||
| My defense is impregnable. | ||
| My style is impetuous. | ||
| I'm just ferocious. | ||
| I'm going to eat your heart. | ||
| Praise be to Allah! | ||
| That was definitely not Mike Tyson. | ||
| Yes, it was. | ||
| That was something he said before a fight. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| He's awesome. | ||
| That sounds... | ||
| Well, let's not go that far. | ||
| In terms of, like, hyping yourself up for a boxing match? | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| I'm going to eat your heart? | ||
| I'm going to eat your children? | ||
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Right. | |
| That's so great. | ||
| I mean, he is a convicted rapist, though. | ||
| But, I mean... | ||
| So there's that. | ||
| In terms of performance, though. | ||
| Anyway, this next clip, he talks about Cernovich's sources. | ||
| And the Soros Group put out its articles through Media Matters saying, find the leak and shut it down. | ||
| And I got to correct something because I saw this yesterday and I kind of conflate things, not on purpose, but I talk fast. | ||
| I got guests coming up. | ||
| I mix things together. | ||
| You do. | ||
| Cernovich has a bunch of sources. | ||
| I know that Don Jr. says he should be given the Pulitzer Prize. | ||
| I agree he should. | ||
| So should Paul Watson, Dr. Corsi, and many others. | ||
| That's a lot of Pulitzer Prizes. | ||
| So, you know, giving it to Globalist. | ||
| So, before we get to his actual, like, walking back his Cernovich shit, like, Paul Joseph Watson in the past has been documented as basing stories on anonymous direct messages on Twitter by trolls. | ||
| By people fucking with him. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| That's not Pulitzer Prize winning behavior. | ||
| In the past, Jerome Corsi has published multiple books that, sure, they ended up as bestsellers. | ||
| But have been shown to be completely made up based on terrible sourcing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's written multiple books about Obama's birth certificate being fake and one about John Kerry and his Swift Boat shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, like, those are not Pulitzer Prize people, Alex. | ||
| They are not. | ||
| If any of them win a Pulitzer Prize, then it's for real time to just pack up and be like, nope, bye, I'm out, I'm out! | ||
| It's time to suck a muffler at that point. | ||
| Get fucking out of here! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm resisting the call of the woods almost every day. | ||
| Oh, right? | ||
| It's just, oh God. | ||
| My cat could live in the woods and be fine. | ||
| I keep fighting this because every generation, this happens to every generation, like very similar stuff happened in 1968 to what's going on right now. | ||
| It's just more. | ||
| That wasn't quite the last generation, though. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm saying that the closest corollary to our time is in the last days of Nixon. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whenever we had all of the Vietnam War protests, when we had so many people being beaten for protesting, when we had all of this shit going on, our president was blatantly corrupt and was fucking committing crimes. | ||
| And may have set the template for what's going to happen to our current president. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So... | ||
| We survived that. | ||
| So I keep thinking, you know what? | ||
| Maybe we are overreacting. | ||
| Maybe our institutions are strong enough to protect us against that. | ||
| But at the same time, I am two seconds away from just fucking driving and just hoping that I get to the woods far enough away where it's like, ah, the nuclear bombs won't hit me. | ||
| Number one, if you do that, let me pack this shit up and come pick me up. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| But then second, I have two thoughts. | ||
| We're gonna have to buy a generator. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I have an idea. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| The second thing is two thoughts about your idea about generational shit. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I'm not sure if we survived the 70s necessarily. | ||
| That's a good theory. | ||
| Keep going with that. | ||
| I'm just not sure that the right outcome necessarily happened. | ||
| I think that it got to a boiling point and then things got drawn back as opposed to being pushed over the edge. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We could have gone a lot farther in the 60s in terms of assuring Progressive movement as opposed to going back. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| I'm not saying we won. | ||
| Right, and I don't think that's a... | ||
| Here's what I'm saying. | ||
| I don't think that that is a demonstration of the strength of our systems or anything like that, our institutions. | ||
| But secondarily, I do agree with you that generations always feel that things are falling apart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Every generation has that kind of narcissistic tendency to think it's the last generation. | ||
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Right. | |
| People should have some insight to that and be like, well, maybe it's not. | ||
| But at the same time, eventually one of those generations is going to be right. | ||
| Yeah, statistically speaking, sooner or later. | ||
| Inevitably, someone will be right. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And the 60s, they were right. | ||
| They were. | ||
| Our American history has never been the same since. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Almost everything that's happened since then has been a backlash to that. | ||
| Almost all of the conservative values and all of the conservative shit that goes on is in direct response to that. | ||
| Yeah, but you could also... | ||
| The hippie movement and stuff like that is the fear that they have, that they sell. | ||
| The kernels of the hippie shit that still exists in terms of homosexuality, drug use, fringe art, stuff like that, is the stuff that they use as boogeymen to be like, that's not American values. | ||
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You know, we gotta support the family, blah blah blah. | |
| Communal living is bullshit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| All that stuff. | ||
| Well, see, my theory is that... | ||
| The Civil War never ended. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's my... | ||
| Because we've been fighting the Civil War long after it ended. | ||
| Dude, no war has ever ended. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| The Civil War hasn't ended. | ||
| Literally, the Korean War hasn't ended, according to the North Koreans. | ||
| Doesn't get worse than that one. | ||
| Yeah, World War II hasn't ended. | ||
| We still have Nazis around. | ||
| Yeah, we still have Nazis. | ||
| Isn't it weird? | ||
| It's 2017 and I wake up some days and I go, I'm afraid of Nazis. | ||
| All of this is still going on. | ||
| All we've done in the same way, because we never finished the deal in the 60s, as it were. | ||
| And that's not the only instance of stuff. | ||
| Progressives have blue balls. | ||
| That's what you're really saying. | ||
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Basically. | |
| Because we didn't close the door. | ||
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We need an Alec Baldwin speech. | |
| And in the same way that at the end of World War II we brought over tons of Nazis because we knew that they had great expertise in certain areas and we could use them as scientists and shit. | ||
| Because we never really finish anything. | ||
| We leave it open and our chickens are all here. | ||
| They're all here. | ||
| There's no finish. | ||
| The problem there is that you're, in no uncertain terms, you're looking for a final solution. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| How do you finish that, though? | ||
| If you're talking about the progressives, how do we win? | ||
| There's no win. | ||
| Because we're only going to create... | ||
| More of this backlash. | ||
| Well, let me say, just in the case of World War II, would I... | ||
| And it's bullshit, because I do also recognize the pieces of our culture that have advanced because of Nazis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That we brought over. | ||
| There's a lot of things... | ||
| That's one great example. | ||
| But there's a lot of stuff that we have benefited from because of them. | ||
| Our world wouldn't be the same if we didn't forgive some of them because of their genius. | ||
| You don't make peace with your friends, you make peace with your enemies. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But in a perfect world, I think what you would have done is all of the people who were responsible for the atrocities, people who were directly the ones being like, gas them up. | ||
| You know, those people, you would kill all of them. | ||
| You'd have trials for them, and you would summarily execute all of them. | ||
| But then, the people who were still sort of under the sway of the ideology, you would do everything you could to re-educate, and not in like a brainwashing way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, they were brainwashed, so it's a de-brainwashing or however it is you'd like. | ||
| There would be a process that would have to, you know, I'm not saying put them in a camp and de-brainwash them, but like, provide... | ||
| I'm not saying... | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| Let's avoid camps altogether. | ||
| When talking about World War II, let's not put camps anywhere near this. | ||
| Internment, concentration, or de-brainwashing. | ||
| Provide people who are under a negative sway with the information and with the reality of, like, these Jews are not your enemies, that this Nazi ideology is something you got swept up into, and just deconstruct every part of the ideology. | ||
| But that's not how we work! | ||
| Like, it's the same way with the drug war. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| And in the same way that this podcast, we can talk about how Alex Jones lies all the time, and if someone actually believes him or likes him, it's not going to help. | ||
| Well, I think that's different from my argument. | ||
| My argument, based on what you've said, is that it's very similar to the way that we deal with the drug war, in that rather than creating these situations to de-escalate... | ||
| And to educate people. | ||
| Again, avoid using the word re-educate. | ||
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Right. | |
| Rather than using those... | ||
| It's a loaded term. | ||
| Yeah, rather than using those strategies, we go for the punishment angle. | ||
| Like with the drug war, what we should be doing is building more rehab centers. | ||
| And what we are doing is building more prisons. | ||
| No, it should be a two-pronged thing. | ||
| It should be more rehabs and then more oversight into doctors who are really loose with prescriptions. | ||
| Those are the two things that would make... | ||
| And those are the things that are going to... | ||
| It's going to go away because of Trump's executive order. | ||
| Odd how that works. | ||
| And Trump believes that Duarte in the Philippines is doing great things about drugs where he just kills drug users. | ||
| He is a literal murderer. | ||
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Murderer. | |
| He has said publicly. | ||
| He has committed murder. | ||
| He said publicly that he has with his own hands. | ||
| The president of the Philippines has said in public, I have killed a man. | ||
| No, I think what he said was at least three. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Himself. | ||
| He said he's murdered people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, that's some real dictatorship. | ||
| That's some fucked up. | ||
| And he was invited to the White House. | ||
| Yeah, but, you know, that's one of those hypocrisy things where, look, how many times have we had Saudi leaders? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| How many times? | ||
| Your point is well taken. | ||
| Yeah, fucking what's-his-dumb-face has a picture with him shaking hands with Saddam Hussein. | ||
| Rumsfeld? | ||
| Yeah, fucking Rumsfeld. | ||
| That sociopath. | ||
| That fucking monster. | ||
| We're going off. | ||
| But the point there is that we've spun off of it, but I agree with you in that it is... | ||
| Boy, I don't quite know where your argument is. | ||
| Because your point to the World War II thing... | ||
| Nothing has ever been finished. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| But your point to that World War II thing was kill the people. | ||
| No, kill some of the people. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Like, I don't think the executions of Nazis that we did do were wrong. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think the Nuremberg trial outcomes were wrong, necessarily. | ||
| I think a lot of people had to die because of the things they did. | ||
| I think a lot of people died because of the things they did. | ||
| I think a lot more people should be executed because of crimes against humanity, even people... | ||
| Bush. | ||
| Rumsfeld. | ||
| Cheney. | ||
| Even fucking Clinton. | ||
| Clinton. | ||
| How many civilians has Obama killed? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| In the Iraq war, we've killed more civilians than we have soldiers. | ||
| As much as he is a politician in our world and has goodwill, I think. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And did a lot of very positive things. | ||
| You can't take away the war crimes. | ||
| No. | ||
| Every single one of them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My further point is we never do a good enough job of dealing with the people who are beholden to negative belief systems. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that is super dangerous. | ||
| In the same way that we never really dealt with Nazis, even American Nazis. | ||
| Right. | ||
| During World War II, and it led to people going underground and creating networks, and now neo-Nazism popped up, and now it's being funneled into... | ||
| I mean, it's not the entire alt-right, but it is a piece of it. | ||
| Well, anti-Semitism was a hugely popular thing in the United States in the late 20s and 30s. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like, one of the people, one of the big boogeymen for the Great Depression, Jews. | ||
| Banking Jews. | ||
| In the United States, one of the things that is very important to remember is Hitler assumed we would be on his side. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because a lot of his ideas were cribbed from American intellectuals. | ||
| And he knew that there were a ton of weird networks of Nazis in America. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Just to put a button on my point so we can get moving. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just... | ||
| I haven't been on... | ||
| I wasn't on last week? | ||
| I know. | ||
| Last episode, so it's like, I want to get into some shit, man! | ||
| I want to be a policy wonk today. | ||
| This is going to be a four-hour episode. | ||
| Oh, I'll policy wonk all day, son! | ||
| So, my point is, when these harmful ideologies pop up, and I'm not saying conservatism is a harmful ideology. | ||
| It is right now. | ||
| Right, but that's... | ||
| There's no equivocation on that. | ||
| But that's not the conservatism that has existed in the past. | ||
| There is, when you talk about small government and you talk about states having rights about a lot of things, you have a very, you could have a robust argument there. | ||
| You could have people on the other side that believe those things, and it's okay. | ||
| Yeah, no, no, I know, I'm letting you talk, I'm letting you talk. | ||
| I'm just making facial expressions, keep going. | ||
| When I talk about harmful ideologies, I'm talking about, I mean, now it's definitely the alt-right, and they're going to need to be... | ||
| Corrected. | ||
| In the future. | ||
| That's a dog whistle to our more militant liberal friends. | ||
| I don't think they have any of those. | ||
| I don't think there are any. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| That's our ultimate failing. | ||
| In the past, there were Nazis. | ||
| There were other groups that were in that camp. | ||
| And to a certain extent, sure. | ||
| If the Alex Jones people want to come down on me, I would say exactly the same is true of people in Al-Qaeda or people in ISIS. | ||
| People who are militant religious folk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And, you know, exist in Christianity too. | |
| ISIS has more in common with the GOP than I do. | ||
| need to bust somehow. | ||
| And I don't mean bust in terms of like, we need to get them and kill them all, or we need to brainwash them into our liberal way of thinking. | ||
| Because I don't care if they land on the right or the left when they land. | ||
| They were basing it on hate. | ||
| Everything that was going on, the pro-Vietnam folk in the 60s were operating on a very non-fact-based system. | ||
| Now the hippies were super into also a lot of non-facts, but their non-facts were about Aquarius. | ||
| The tenability of free love. | ||
| Horology. | ||
| Horology is our way out of this. | ||
| Right, but that's not a harmful... | ||
| Non-fact-based system. | ||
| That's a fact-based system that only leads to you fucking more people and buying a crystal. | ||
| That's not really negative. | ||
| I think you've stumbled onto what I would say, like, the way that you put it kind of clicked something for me. | ||
| We're really getting down to essentially my philosophy. | ||
| No, here's what I would say. | ||
| Based on what you've just said, I had a little brain click. | ||
| It is not progressive, conservative, liberal, Democrat, GOP. | ||
| Right now, our fundamental differences are reality. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| One side. | ||
| Not one side. | ||
| No. | ||
| There is a side of people. | ||
| There's delusional Democrats and liberals all over the place. | ||
| The sides are reality versus non-reality. | ||
| That's what we are really fighting. | ||
| And that's why... | ||
| These wars haven't been finished. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because we're not fighting the right war. | ||
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Nope. | |
| It's always a distraction. | ||
| Yeah, you and I are not fighting a war of conservatism or liberalism or progressivism or anything like that. | ||
| We're fighting a war with a man who is creating reality. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And we're fighting that with reality. | ||
| Well, but then at the same time, I mean, I don't want to peel the curtain back too far, but like... | ||
| One of the reasons that I feel so convicted in my fighting Alex Jones on his non-reality-based system... | ||
| It's because of your dog, Knock. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Listen, he was a good dog. | ||
| The reason is because... | ||
| Like, it was in that BuzzFeed article, and I couldn't fucking think... | ||
| I could not think that that quote is more accurate. | ||
| He is the Goebbels of 2016. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| He is... | ||
| And it's not about... | ||
| It's not about any of that. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| We've gone too far down this rabbit hole. | ||
| Let's finish this clip we're in the middle of. | ||
| Oh, are we in the middle of a clip? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| What show are we doing? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| This is about Mike Cernovich's sources. | ||
| And that he's a great source of info on what he says. | ||
| He is not Cernovich's source. | ||
| I happen to know one of the sources he has. | ||
| It's in the White House. | ||
| It's not Don Jr. | ||
| So they've become a big investigation. | ||
| Stop Don Jr. from leaking information. | ||
| And I kind of conflated those two. | ||
| My point is the two obviously like each other. | ||
| I'll just leave it at that. | ||
| That is not our source on much of this. | ||
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That's worse than retracting it. | |
| I can tell you it's from the Treasury Department because this is known in the White House. | ||
| The White House wants this stuff out and Fox News and CNN won't report it so they give it to the big evil Alex Jones. | ||
| The big evil Dr. Corsi. | ||
| As you know, of course, he's got three number one New York Times bestseller books. | ||
| Probably changed the course of at least one election. | ||
| Probably two. | ||
| Yeah, that's not a credit. | ||
| And he's got a PhD in banking and is willing to expose all this. | ||
| So another big giant story we broke. | ||
| His propaganda is effective. | ||
| So he's like, Don Jr. wasn't the source. | ||
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But let's just say... | |
| Like, that was a wink and a nod to him still being right, though. | ||
| Kind of. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And being like, I'm not really apologizing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But then he also says that, like, with this new story, the one about the Fanny and Freddy stuff, he's like, that's not our source. | ||
| Our source is the Treasury Department. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Every single thing that he says throughout the entire course of this is based on that tiny clip that I played of Steve Mnuchin. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| It being interviewed by Maria Bartolomu. | ||
| I'm not sure I'm saying her name right. | ||
| Great name, though. | ||
| You know what I think? | ||
| Let me confirm this. | ||
| No, it's Bartiromo. | ||
| Bartiromo. | ||
| You know what I'm conflating it with? | ||
| One of the characters in a Comedy Bang Bang ongoing storyline. | ||
| See, because I was conflating it with one of the Assassin's Creed characters, Bartolo Romeo. | ||
| I was conflating it with pitcher Bartolo Colon. | ||
| It's Colon. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| It's spelled like Colon. | ||
| I was conflating it with Bartolo Simpsono. | ||
| We're mildly off the rails. | ||
| We're way off the rails. | ||
| And that's appropriate because this is covering his 30-hour dumbass marathon. | ||
| Are we doing 30 hours of this? | ||
| We are. | ||
| So it turns out that his big thing that he wanted to talk about, this Fanny and Freddy storyline, is completely... | ||
| Umpus bumpus. | ||
| It's just nonsense. | ||
| It's... | ||
| No, it's bullshit. | ||
| It's no good. | ||
| But it's going to be the new narrative. | ||
| It's going to be... | ||
| I started to try... | ||
| As I listen to the show, one of the things I'm trying to do is contextualize what he's saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because every... | ||
| He throws out so much bullshit. | ||
| And I'm like, is this going to be a varsity storyline? | ||
| Is this going to be a JV storyline? | ||
| Or is this going to be a waypoint? | ||
| You know, like, I'm trying to... | ||
| You're actually... | ||
| You're working as his editor at the same time. | ||
| Well, I'm trying to predict. | ||
| Like, if he was coming to you with a novel, you would be the guy going through it like, no, this is your real A story. | ||
| This is a side character. | ||
| Exactly, exactly. | ||
| Yeah, that's what you're doing. | ||
| This is going to be, I think, one of his really main narratives. | ||
| The Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac thing. | ||
| Yeah, because he's going back to it from two months ago. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I think that he thinks that enough time has passed that no one remembers the bull. | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| He's probably right. | ||
| Except for us. | ||
| Except for you. | ||
| Because we're wonks. | ||
| And I think he's going to try and use the assumed credibility of, we reported on this in February. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And use it to really reinforce this. | ||
| Because the Google story has sort of fallen apart, they're going to delist us. | ||
| That's a waypoint now. | ||
| That's not a main narrative. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because there's no weight behind it. | ||
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Right. | |
| He can wander off and then get back to there. | ||
| Right now, I think the varsity storylines are going to be this. | ||
| And framing Hamdi Ulukaya as a member of the Federal Reserve. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Those are going to be the varsity storylines. | ||
| Now, I do like this... | ||
| Like, if I were him, I like this angle on Freddie May and... | ||
| Franny May and... | ||
| Fanny Freddie. | ||
| Fanny Freddie. | ||
| I do like this angle because it is concurrent with the Obamacare repeal vote. | ||
| So, your narrative there... | ||
| Just kind of slides in with the mainstream GOP narrative. | ||
| Which is accidental. | ||
| That Obamacare is failing. | ||
| And then you come in on your back end saying the reason it's failing is because they were stealing money from these people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And now Trump, Americana, is not going to do that. | ||
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No. | |
| Now, that is, I think you're right, that is accidental. | ||
| But I also think that's one of the big reasons this has legs. | ||
| Well, because, well, I mean, it has even more legs considering, like, this is a day before. | ||
| We even knew that the vote was going to go down and win. | ||
| God. | ||
| Kill us all. | ||
| Kill us all. | ||
| They didn't even fucking kill us all. | ||
| It has even more legs, considering, like, even before the vote, I knew this. | ||
| Yeah, no, he lucked into something real good. | ||
| Yeah, but it's all based in nothing. | ||
| So, I mean, we'll see how it plays out. | ||
| So is the Health Care Act. | ||
| Am I right? | ||
| Now you listen to me. | ||
| Whoa, Jesus. | ||
| I want you to know something. | ||
| You pointed very strongly at my face. | ||
| This is an aggressive point. | ||
| That's a very aggressive point. | ||
| Now you listen to me right now. | ||
| I'm listening. | ||
| We're playing games here. | ||
| We are. | ||
| We're all having a laugh. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Jordan, stop fucking laughing. | ||
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I'm sorry. | |
| Stop fucking laughing. | ||
| You're telling me not to laugh at me. | ||
| Stop laughing. | ||
| This is serious business. | ||
| You know why? | ||
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Alex Jones has been fucking threatened. | |
| We need to respect that. | ||
| We need to respect that. | ||
| And I wish I could... | ||
| Press play while I'm pointing at you. | ||
| I need you to escape from this character you're playing right now because it got too far. | ||
| One day there will be a way for me to start playing clips with my brain. | ||
| But for now, I have to get out of character to press the button. | ||
| So what will happen is you should just get a lapel mic. | ||
| That's really the situation there. | ||
| Or the Rappaport... | ||
| Oh yeah, the Britney Spears mic. | ||
| The Rappaport headset. | ||
| We could definitely do that. | ||
| Donate to the show so we can get wrap-up headsets. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| We're getting Dr. Jerome Corsi lined up on the Skype as we speak right now. | ||
| Investigative journalist. | ||
| It takes forever. | ||
| It takes forever to get him on Skype. | ||
| Close to $300 billion just in the four years they were able to get into via our White House Treasury connections. | ||
| The one on TV. | ||
| Close to $300 billion. | ||
| Now, we have only gotten a portion of the documents. | ||
| It's probably going to be a lot bigger. | ||
| And then Mnuchin, the Treasury Secretary, and others got asked about it on mainstream TV, and they said, no, it's true. | ||
| Infowars is right. | ||
| Well, of course we're right. | ||
| We got it from our sources. | ||
| And Dr. Corsi has a Harvard degree in finance. | ||
| He's worked with Donald Trump. | ||
| He's an expert. | ||
| Makes him reliable. | ||
| That's why they hate us. | ||
| In fact, I've been told it's this story and bashing the radical Muslims that has them after me. | ||
| They have the Federal Reserve of New York board member. | ||
| Suing me right now. | ||
| And I've been told, stop getting into Fannie Mae Freddie Mac. | ||
| Stop getting into the Muslims. | ||
| Back off. | ||
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Back off or you'll be destroyed. | |
| Back off or you'll be destroyed. | ||
| It sucks there. | ||
| I want to actually roll this back because I kept in a super long break at the end. | ||
| Just listen to this. | ||
| It's fucking hilarious. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| Getting into the Muslims. | ||
| Back off. | ||
| Back off or you'll be destroyed. | ||
| I just love that. | ||
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He like hits the table and... | |
| Yeah, no way. | ||
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Not a chance. | |
| Mnuchin is not an easier name to pronounce than Ulukaya. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| Why is it that he can pronounce Mnuchin perfectly every time? | ||
| Not every time. | ||
| Well, that may be... | ||
| He's done it enough that it... | ||
| 75%. | ||
| He's done it enough that it frustrates you, that it's very obvious he's mispronouncing Ulukaya's name on purpose. | ||
| Well, I would say that the more disrespectful thing is his first name is Hamdi. | ||
| And he keeps calling him Hamid. | ||
| Yeah, that is way more disrespectful. | ||
| But be that as it may, just to recap in that clip, he does say that he's being sued by a member of the Federal Reserve. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| It's a guy who he slandered, who is not on the board of the Federal Reserve. | ||
| Not even close. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He was an advisory committee guy in the upstate New York area. | ||
| Total horseshit. | ||
| So, you know, he's been threatened. | ||
| Alex has. | ||
| And earlier in this episode, we sort of dove into... | ||
| You know, I'm sort of turning on Trump a little bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| At least at the beginning he was saying these, he's like, hey, he might be going sideways. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| He's looked at the devil and he's, you know, he's 70% now. | ||
| It's a video game. | ||
| He came really close to saying, when you look in the abyss, the abyss looks back. | ||
| Shakespeare. | ||
| That would have been fucking great. | ||
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Any classical quote is now Shakespeare. | |
| Give me liberty or give me death. | ||
| Will Shakespeare. | ||
| Here is where he sort of makes it super confusing. | ||
| I'll tell you, it's very paradoxical. | ||
| Best of times, worst of times. | ||
| Will Shakespeare. | ||
| That I just love Trump and what he's doing on the economy and Americana and sovereignty and battling ISIS and... | ||
| Bringing jobs back. | ||
| I just get chills. | ||
| And then it makes it worse. | ||
| Because if you already hate somebody, they do bad stuff, it doesn't really hurt you. | ||
| You just fight them. | ||
| But when you really care about somebody and you know what they're up against, you know they're getting threatened, you know they're surrounded, you know people aren't doing what he says, and then to see him start to capitulate and bring in globalists because they just weren't letting the government move. | ||
| They had him in stalemate. | ||
| They had him deadlocked. | ||
| And so he's now dealing with them and getting us something but giving up something and people aren't going to put up with that. | ||
| They expect stuff he can't deliver. | ||
| Our listeners want me a lot of them to tear into Trump. | ||
| I'm just being a realist. | ||
| I'm not endorsing what he's done. | ||
| Yeah, you are. | ||
| But I'm not as quick as, you know, even Limbaugh to start tearing into him. | ||
| So, like, this is the way that when you are a dumbass leader and you're proposing things that go against some of our most basic American values, but yet you have all three branches of government locked up, and now the Supreme Court, and yet you can't get shit done. | ||
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Right. | |
| This is the way you pitch the narrative that, like, oh, this is why. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because there's globalists behind the scenes. | ||
| It's the cult leader. | ||
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It doesn't matter. | |
| It's the cult leader predicting Doomsday, and then Doomsday not happening. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So then, well, it's not... | ||
| I made a mistake. | ||
| Look, I misread it. | ||
| Doomsday is two years from now. | ||
| I missed a two in there. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Listen, biblical scripture is tough to decode. | ||
| I had the broad strokes right, but the details, it's the devil is in the details, and the devil in this situation is coming two years from now, not today. | ||
| So all that shit, though, that he's saying about, like, you know, Trump is going off the rails, he's becoming globalist and shit, it does not jive with his, like... | ||
| I love this guy. | ||
| And not only that, he's the alpha male. | ||
| He's the alpha male who can do anything. | ||
| It is always, always, always everybody else's fault. | ||
| You can never hold the person accountable in Alex Jones' world. | ||
| But that also cuts into his entire narrative. | ||
| Because he's done so much groundwork in laying the sort of foundation for like Trump is a singular man. | ||
| He is a man against the globalist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And so if he starts to get corrupted, what Alex doesn't want to deal with is the idea that. | |
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That may be what happens. | ||
| That may be. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Imagine that! | ||
| Imagine if Alex Jones switches to, like, well, it's Putin the whole time. | ||
| He's already had Alexander Dugan on. | ||
| Yeah, and he's been on RT. | ||
| Like, he's got the groundwork laid for being, like... | ||
| The only real anti-globalist is Poot. | ||
| So this next clip, Alex Jones is trying to reframe Trump. | ||
| Like, in as much as he's turning against him, he's trying to reform him, I believe, as best as my ear can tell. | ||
| In this clip, he's trying to frame him as a tolerant immigration reformer. | ||
| But it... | ||
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Uh... | |
| Yeah, it does not pass muscle. | ||
| Trump was always going to reform immigration. | ||
| But he's not going to let criminals and la reconquista, anti-American, Islamists, you name it, come in. | ||
| Or single moms. | ||
| But we killed half our kids with abortion in this country. | ||
| We're going to have to replace the population. | ||
| We need to do it with people that are integrated into the Americana system. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| And he is going after people that are here illegally. | ||
| But he's not what the media claimed he was, some racist that hates everybody. | ||
| What? | ||
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So... | |
| Just like a lot of Christians, and I'm a Christian myself, got mad at him that he's not anti-gay once he got in. | ||
| That was the media saying Trump was anti-gay. | ||
| And so a lot of super right-wingers said, oh great, we love Trump. | ||
| And I was like, hey guys, did you see the convention? | ||
| With Trump saying let's be inclusive to everybody? | ||
| Except Muslims who aren't allowed in the country. | ||
| Trump's a big tent guy. | ||
| And so... | ||
| That's the bottom line here, is that we have a president for the whole country, not just for certain groups or for small subsections. | ||
| Him wanting to go after Assange, absolutely terrible. | ||
| He told Assange and others, if you've got more WikiLeaks, release them. | ||
| He told Russia that. | ||
| You want to indict Assange, President Trump? | ||
| Indict yourself then. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| That's outrageous. | ||
| I do agree with that last point, that if you want to put WikiLeaks on trial, you will end up on trial yourself. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| But that's not what Alex was saying. | ||
| The stuff they're doing now is very much like, we're deciding who can and who can't be called news. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's a problem. | ||
| Again, again, because of that very same thing. | ||
| Like, if you're advocating that and you're Alex Jones, Imagine what happens if you are Alex Jones and it's a liberal progressive politician with that same power. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like, you're fake news. | ||
| You're the problem. | ||
| You could very legitimately be shut down on solid ground. | ||
| That idea of Trump's immigration stuff is cockamamie. | ||
| Bullshit revisionist history. | ||
| Revisionist history from a month ago. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| God, it hasn't even been that long. | ||
| Meanwhile, Alex on his show keeps harping on the idea that the problem is no one has a memory. | ||
| You don't remember. | ||
| You don't remember what you said. | ||
| It's every GOP person now who says like, oh, what are liberals protesting about? | ||
| You know, whenever Obama was president, we never did that shit. | ||
| We just accepted it as president. | ||
| Smash cut to them burning Obama in equity. | ||
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| I know! | ||
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It's like, what the fuck? | |
| Are you not paying attention? | ||
| Now, I want to say this in terms of validating people's feelings, I think. | ||
| Some of those people who are complaining and saying we didn't protest when Obama came into office, personally, maybe they didn't. | ||
| Maybe they were tolerant, and God bless them for it. | ||
| But then projecting that to the society is not okay. | ||
| Because... | ||
| When Obama was elected, there was an insane backlash. | ||
| To an extent where... | ||
| Have you ever been to a gun show? | ||
| No. | ||
| I have. | ||
| Please don't tell me anymore. | ||
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Just fucking kill me before you tell me this story. | |
| After Obama was elected, there were frequently at gun shows that I have been to... | ||
| I mean, I grew up in Missouri. | ||
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Yes, yeah, yeah. | |
| I bought a blowgun once, just because I wanted to shoot paintballs at my friends. | ||
| That is such a you move. | ||
| I think I also bought some sort of a stun gun so me and my friends could shock each other while we were drunk. | ||
| But it was full of Obama targets. | ||
| And then also weird posters of photoshopped Obama into weird old insulting racist tribal pictures. | ||
| The monkey with Obama's face. | ||
| Yeah, the whole thing. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It doesn't work big picture, but those people individually might be okay. | ||
| My aunt told me this whole thing about how when Obama was elected, everybody hoped he would do well. | ||
| And she absolutely did not remember all the racist shit she emailed me. | ||
| She herself said. | ||
| She herself emailed me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So fuck you. | ||
| No memory. | ||
| This is the worst part. | ||
| Genuinely, there was that narrative during the Trump campaign where there was part of people were like, you know Trump is lying. | ||
| You know he's lying. | ||
| So maybe he's lying in a good way. | ||
| Like, maybe when he does get elected, he's going to go back to that shit where he was pro-LGBT. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| He's going to go back to that whole... | ||
| Because he used to be. | ||
| Hey, he's a secret Democrat. | ||
| And he's never believed in anything. | ||
| He doesn't believe in anything. | ||
| He doesn't have an ideology. | ||
| He's just a fucking opportunist. | ||
| Yeah, he believes in his own brand being pushed and his family making more money. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So there was that liberal narrative where it's like, well, you know what? | ||
| If he enriches himself, but we also get single-payer health care? | ||
| Fucking great. | ||
| You know, that kind of a thing. | ||
| The problem is he was lying to everybody in the wrong way. | ||
| Yeah, it's that deal with the devil never works out because the devil has interests you don't even fucking understand. | ||
| But again, whenever he was elected and on that inauguration day, I knew shit was going to go bad. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But just because of that, that didn't mean that I didn't hope that it turned out well. | ||
| Like, imagine if he had just turned out to be a pretty good, okay dude. | ||
| Like, that could have happened, conceivably. | ||
| He's a liar. | ||
| He doesn't believe in anything. | ||
| Maybe we find out that he just gives a shit about doing whatever he wants to do, you know? | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| It was. | ||
| Like, I genuinely hope the president succeeds. | ||
| The problem I have is that there's no possibility of that. | ||
| He's a monster and he's trying to fuck us all using the Republican Congress who are filled with psychopathic monsters who are bought by rich people who are all psychopathic monsters! | ||
| Well, the problem, too, is that, like... | ||
| So I'm saying I hope our president does well. | ||
| Well, the problem is that, like, the world is so complicated and we're deeply entrenched in such weird situations that, like, even the best person possible coming into office will... | ||
| We'll inevitably do monstrous shit just based on the last 50, 70, 100 years of history. | ||
| The trends that have happened have gotten us in a position where you can't extricate yourself from situations where you're going to end up murdering tons of civilians in foreign countries. | ||
| It's just inevitable. | ||
| Obama, if he was not faced with those decisions, would, like right now, if you were talking to Obama from 20 years ago and said, Okay, would you ever kill a civilian who had nothing, not evil, not a problem? | ||
| If you ask me, of course not. | ||
| I would never, ever kill a civilian. | ||
| And then you get into that political situation where... | ||
| Your entire life could be... | ||
| So you have to kill a civilian. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And my point... | ||
| Or your lesser of two evils is killing people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And my point is that the best person is still going to do some really bad stuff. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And then when you get a con artist... | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| I'm the best person. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And even I would do evil things. | ||
| That's what I was saying, too. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But then you get a con artist in there and you're going to end up with... | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Who the fuck knows? | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So... | |
| It's not gone well. | ||
| Yeah, it's turned into my office pool in my head because there is no office where I live. | ||
| The March Madness for me is which... | ||
| Doomsday scenario is going to win out in the end. | ||
| Which country is going to get nuked? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| Is North Korea really going to nuke us? | ||
| Or are we going to do this? | ||
| Or, you know, that whole thing. | ||
| Is it going to be climate change that gets us first? | ||
| Or is it going to be lack of fresh water? | ||
| Or is it going to be the refugees moving too far in too many different directions that people have to start a fucking war with each other? | ||
| Or is it going to be any number of different possible doomsday scenarios? | ||
| And I feel like all of them are possible! | ||
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And if any of them happen, all of them are going to happen! | |
| Yep. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I do. | ||
| So, Jordan, you might be asking yourself. | ||
| What would I be asking myself? | ||
| You might be asking, why the fuck are they doing a 30-hour marathon broadcast? | ||
| Oh, I knew the answer to that question so fast. | ||
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We need money! | |
| So fast. | ||
| We need money! | ||
| I have never asked myself less of a question than that. | ||
| Alex Jones has possibly a different answer than the truth. | ||
| Jerome Corsi, here in just a moment, but before I do that... | ||
| We have kicked off and we've gone into the first 41 minutes here, ladies and gentlemen, of our global broadcast that we will do for 30 hours, what, until 5, 6 o 'clock tomorrow. | ||
| By the way, they're 41 minutes into their marathon. | ||
| We're at two and a half hours on this podcast. | ||
| But to be fair, we covered that BuzzFeed article for like half an hour. | ||
| Fuck you, voice in my head. | ||
| To raise awareness and to raise capital and to reach new people. | ||
| The three goals are to rally our millions of radio listeners and millions of TV viewers and listeners online to really commit every day on email, on Facebook, on Twitter, on YouTube, in person, at the grocery store, at church, at the synagogue, at the Rotary Club, at the golf course. | ||
| At the shop with your buddies or out hunting, whatever it is. | ||
| At your bowling league. | ||
| To say, this country's in trouble, but we're starting to turn the tide. | ||
| Globalism is in decline, but they're trying to destroy Alex Jones. | ||
| They're trying to destroy the few other outlets out there that'll tell the truth. | ||
| How fun would that conversation be at the store or at your synagogue? | ||
| It's going to be 11-24. | ||
| Hey, look. | ||
| Globalism is on the rise. | ||
| They're trying to destroy Alex Jones. | ||
| Also, paper. | ||
| So are you going to pay with the $20 bill? | ||
| I said paper. | ||
| Okay, but there's a seven cent bag tax. | ||
| I'm going to pay with fiat currency. | ||
| This is distributed by the Federal Reserve Bank that includes a guy who's suing Alex Jones. | ||
| Alright, I'm going to need to see your ID. | ||
| The ID is a tool. | ||
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That is used by the globalists to shut us down. | |
| All right, fine, then just show me your barcode and I'll scam that too. | ||
| I am a sovereign citizen. | ||
| All right, we'll get into that at some future date. | ||
| Just take your groceries and go. | ||
| So we need to spread the word about InfoWars. | ||
| We need to spread the word about the articles and the videos and realize every day, you see news, we broke. | ||
| A week before, a month before, a year before, word for word on CNN, ABC News, CBS, Wall Street Journal. | ||
| You generally do see news that they've broken a little bit later. | ||
| I wonder why. | ||
| Because it's debunked. | ||
| Could you give me context for that? | ||
| A lot of times you'll see like, oh no, that wasn't true. | ||
| A lot of weirdos think this is true. | ||
| There's a lot of fact checkers in the world and they dig into stuff and you find out like, oh no, this isn't true at all. | ||
| Yeah, the problem is you can never fact check before. | ||
| Alex Jones releases something. | ||
| You have to fact check what he says afterwards. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a really fun game. | ||
| Although that would be an interesting game to see if you could predict the narrative that they would spin. | ||
| Based on a fact. | ||
| While you're saying it. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So Obama comes out and says... | ||
| Give me a fake story and I'll give you the Alex Jones spin. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Wait, a fake story with Alex Jones spin or a real story that you're gonna... | ||
| You give me a fake real story. | ||
| You give me... | ||
| We're too many levels deep! | ||
| No, you give me just like a world news story and I'll try and spin it Alex Jones style. | ||
| Alright, um... | ||
| Six kids die in a religious-based attack in Somalia. | ||
| Oh, that's so fucking easy. | ||
| That's so fucking easy. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Just doing this in the Alex Jones voice might be hard. | ||
| Somalia has been a place since Black Hawk Down. | ||
| It's been under globalist control since then. | ||
| We all know that. | ||
| It's in public record. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I know this. | ||
| You go back to Barry Goldwater, it's in the White Papers. | ||
| We all know this. | ||
| These kids, they're part of a globalist Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Saul Alinsky-based... | ||
| Are the kids even real? | ||
| They're in a sex trafficking operation. | ||
| We all know that. | ||
| It's in the white papers. | ||
| You check out Hillary Clinton's connection to Haiti. | ||
| It's all in there. | ||
| They are real. | ||
| They are real. | ||
| It is very unfortunate. | ||
| And I've already forgotten what the actual story was. | ||
| You nailed it. | ||
| You've got Alex Jones down. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So here's my dream. | ||
| We're just pointing at each other now. | ||
| Here's what was important about your fake... | ||
| And I think is what Alex Jones does. | ||
| What I heard when you were telling me that story wasn't the actual story that you were faking. | ||
| What I heard was the country, Somalia, and I made connections to various things through history. | ||
| I heard there were kids involved, and I know that there's kid trafficking that Alex wants to promote. | ||
| Or as a narrative in foreign countries. | ||
| So I took the little things that he does and made the narrative out of it. | ||
| Now, legitimately, I don't remember what you said. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And nor does he. | ||
| So then my, like, I guess dream would be, like, imagine instead of giving people that headline, you give them the headline with every piece of specific information you need in it. | ||
| Like, the headline to that is... | ||
| Radical sect of American-influenced Christians murder children because they have LGBT tendencies that they've showed since they were very young. | ||
| The angle that alt-right people would take on this story is that it is this kind of globalist conspiracy, but instead it is not. | ||
| It is purely religious based on a Christian ideology that has been twisted and warped. | ||
| Now, that's the headline, right? | ||
| Alex Jones can't twist that headline, can they? | ||
| I can't really sign off on this because I'm still thinking about those poor kids in Somalia. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| Those kids. | ||
| There's always poor kids in Somalia. | ||
| Anyway, he has more in this clip. | ||
| Word for word. | ||
| Two months ago. | ||
| Two and a half months ago. | ||
| Three months ago. | ||
| He publishes five, six articles since then. | ||
| With Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, with the documents, looting up to $300 billion. | ||
| Looting. | ||
| That's only limited documents he got. | ||
| It's bigger. | ||
| We're going to Corsi in a minute. | ||
| They didn't publish documents. | ||
| And it all comes out in mainstream news. | ||
| I'm going to play the clips. | ||
| Exactly as we said, with the Treasury Secretary saying, we're right, and InfoWars getting credit. | ||
| This is Dr. Corsi, our D.C. Bureau Chief. | ||
| He didn't say that at all. | ||
| But also, I want to say this because it's super fun and it is sort of a callback to things that just keep happening. | ||
| For that entire clip, Jerome Corsi was on Skype silent. | ||
| God, I love that shit! | ||
| His bloated face is just sitting there being complimented by Alex and he's just like... | ||
| He wants to talk, probably, and Alex keeps being like, we'll get to Jerome Corsi in a minute. | ||
| Like a manatee in an aquarium. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Or like a fish person at the side of a cage with human terror. | ||
| With those human terror in his eyes. | ||
| Human terror. | ||
| God, I love chimeras. | ||
| The implicit piece... | ||
| Oh, also we got some nice Twitter action. | ||
| I'd like to give a shout-out at our friend who, I can't remember his name, who posted a picture of a mythological chimera. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I saw that. | ||
| That was terrifying. | ||
| I did not realize that was the creature. | ||
| You didn't know what a chimera was? | ||
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| No shit! | ||
| I knew what the idea of a chimera was, but I didn't realize the mythical creature had three heads out of different parts of its body. | ||
| We're going to have to play some Dungeons and Dragons here. | ||
| Jordan? | ||
| Yes? | ||
| One of the most important things that you need to know is that the reason... | ||
| That people in the mainstream media are attacking Infowars? | ||
| That is an important thing to know. | ||
| I need to know that. | ||
| Do you want to know why? | ||
| I do want to know why. | ||
| I think Alex can sum it up best. | ||
| I mean, I have my ideas, but here's Alex's take. | ||
| Well, you're a globalist. | ||
| They are so scared of him. | ||
| And I've been told, shut up about this or we'll be destroyed. | ||
| They've got six, seven, eight investigative journalists on me at all times making up crap right now. | ||
| They're trying to destroy my family right now. | ||
| They have the Federal Reserve Board of New York suing me right now with George Soros' law firm because they're scared of that guy in D.C. full-time hiring a team. | ||
| One guy's already torn him up. | ||
| So all that was lies. | ||
| But at the same time, it's so fun because Jerome Corsi is on Skype, and he's just like, they're scared of that guy! | ||
| He's pointing at silent-ass, bloated-faced Jerome Corsi. | ||
| It's so great. | ||
| But that's the problem there. | ||
| It's such a great visual. | ||
| If you put Steve Bannon in there, I'm like, yeah, I am scared of that bloated-ass, ugly motherfucker who's ruining everybody. | ||
| No, no, but the bullshit is I'm scared of Jerome Corsi, too. | ||
| I'm scared of Infowars, too. | ||
| The world isn't. | ||
| They're not paying attention. | ||
| I'm scared of this trend that Infowars is a big part of. | ||
| Even though it's in the white papers. | ||
| They should be paying attention. | ||
| I'm going to start writing some white papers. | ||
| I'm going to fuck around and write a white paper. | ||
| That's code for a book. | ||
| You had a very good day. | ||
| I'm going to write a book. | ||
| You fucked around and got a triple-double. | ||
| I'm going to write a white book. | ||
| Not a white paper. | ||
| Hey, how would you feel if somebody wrote a black book, huh? | ||
| That was a great show that got bought by Comedy Central early on. | ||
| Black Books? | ||
| Yeah, starring Dylan Morne, who we saw together, who you thought was shit. | ||
| I thought it was a snooze. | ||
| He was alright. | ||
| I don't disagree. | ||
| He had a rough set. | ||
| It wasn't a good show. | ||
| It was a rough set. | ||
| I believe he's funny. | ||
| Anyway, Jerome Corsi might cut in here. | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| Actually, I just remembered he doesn't. | ||
| Now, let's continue. | ||
| They're scared of InfoWars. | ||
| They're scared of Paul Watson. | ||
| They're scared of all my reporters. | ||
| They're scared of the crew back there. | ||
| They're scared of you. | ||
| Because we are a focal point, like Ron Paul would always say. | ||
| Don't give him credit. | ||
| He's just a focal point. | ||
| He's coming up in about 20 minutes. | ||
| We're going to go to Corsi in a moment. | ||
| But we're running a specials today to raise capital, huge discounts as well. | ||
| It's a product bomb, basically. | ||
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They're scared of you. | |
| Of super high quality products, like a money bomb. | ||
| You can also donate at InfoWarsStore.com, $5, $20, $100, whatever, to get a bigger team in D.C. To be able to break even more news. | ||
| To get even more reporters. | ||
| To get more editors. | ||
| More video people. | ||
| More fact checkers. | ||
| To pay for my lawsuit. | ||
| To pay for the satellite feed. | ||
| To pay for legal. | ||
| To launch more shows. | ||
| To pay for legal. | ||
| To pay for legal. | ||
| He could have just said to pay for legal a whole bunch. | ||
| But the comedy of him saying, like what he said right before that, like to pay for legal is, I mean, that's it. | ||
| Yeah, that's a, to pay for legal. | ||
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No big deal. | |
| But the comedy is right before he said to pay for legal, he said to pay for fact checkers. | ||
| You don't have a fucking fact checker. | ||
| You have someone who's like. | ||
| You have an anti. | ||
| You probably have an intern who tries to tell you, this will get you sued, this won't get you sued, and their radar is off. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, I mean, like, there's no way he has a fact checker, because, like, legitimately, I took an hour of my day working on this Fanny Freddy story. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I found a bunch of documents, I found a bunch of stories that were well-sourced about how their... | ||
| Interpretation and their version of it is wrong. | ||
| Then I found a Breitbart story that specifically was about how Infowars is wrong. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Like, to imagine a world... | ||
| You would be fired as their fact checkers so fast. | ||
| To imagine a world where Breitbart has more editorial credibility. | ||
| Like, emphatically more credibility. | ||
| And it's in Breitbart's best interest in terms of the narratives they push. | ||
| To agree with Alex Jones. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That's worth it. | ||
| It's a step too far even for them. | ||
| Which I think is why Alex is selling it as, they told me to back off this story. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because that story from Breitbart came out before this broadcast. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So I think that it's like, he's trying to sell the like, even the right has turned against us on this. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which is great. | ||
| Which is good for him, because if he's eventually going to turn against Trump, which he has to. | ||
| Then that's a great angle to start taking, is that even Breitbart and those guys are now wings of Trump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the more, like, if you start distancing yourself from Trump, then you have to start distancing yourself from Breitbart. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Because Steve Bannon is fucking Steve Bannon. | ||
| But you understand that- And I mean that in a very literal sense. | ||
| Steve Bannon has sex. | ||
| With Steve Bannon. | ||
| He tucks all the way. | ||
| All the way. | ||
| All the way. | ||
| It twists, it's curved, it's like Gonzo's nose, but right up his ass. | ||
| I think you're actually wrong, because in these earlier clips, he's been talking about how the turn came when Trump took Bannon off the Security Council. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's been talking about how, like, up until 71 days in, or whatever... | ||
| Trump and Bannon had an ideology and then that went away. | ||
| Okay, so now his stuff is like Priebus and the like. | ||
| Yeah, I think he's still on Bannon tip. | ||
| I'm not sure what the disconnect from Breitbart has to be in order for him. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| I'm not going to war games this for him. | ||
| It could just be that he is... | ||
| Fucking riffing, and anything goes while he's randomly talking. | ||
| I think the bottom line is that he's acting like it's hour 35 of this telethon. | ||
| We're at 41 minutes in. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So now, after an absurdly long time just on Skype silent, he finally lets Jerome Corsi talk. | ||
| And I'm going to play this clip. | ||
| Corsi is going to lay out his sort of version of what the story is. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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And I'll come back clean up in case there's any subtle points that we haven't gone over already. | |
| This is hard news. | ||
| This is hard criminal looting that could bring. | ||
| down the entire democratic power structure and this is why the republican establishment is out to get us as well because they're part of it so dr corsi thank you let's recap what happened and how big this is that after two plus months it's finally broken well i like | ||
| It's been a story we've been working on because we found out that Fannie and Freddie, the two mortgage giants, government-sponsored entities, in August 2012, the Obama administration began taking all the profits from Fannie and Freddie and confiscating them. | ||
| It's called the net worth sweep. | ||
| It's a complicated operation. | ||
| And I got in the middle of it and realized that what was happening was that Congress, the House specifically, had refused to fund the insurance premiums, the subsidies for low-income families and individuals under Obamacare. | ||
| This is the most boring thing. | ||
| And so Obamacare in 2012 was going to tank. | ||
| It was going to be completely bankrupt and wasn't going to work. | ||
| What the Obama administration did was they took this money from Fannie and Freddie and diverted it without announcing it illegally into paying the Obamacare. | ||
| How is that illegal? | ||
| And that's amazing. | ||
| Obamacare was, what, a year old then and it was still going to fail? | ||
| It was in the process of failing because the House refused to appropriate the money to pay these subsidies without being able to pay the insurance company. | ||
| So they looted the taxpayer-backed system for home-hung. | ||
| That is incredible. | ||
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You fucking idiot! | |
| Yes! | ||
| You figured it the fuck out! | ||
| Yeah, but he's ascribing the nefariousness to the wrong source. | ||
| Yeah, well, because the House Republicans refused to do the thing that they were supposed to do. | ||
| Again, just to remind you, because we talked about this like an hour and a half ago, even for the listeners, I want to point out that what he's talking about is this thing called the net worth sweep, and it started in 2012. | ||
| He said those things. | ||
| Jerome Corsi said those things. | ||
| Now let me explain that to you. | ||
| Again, I read this paragraph. | ||
| A little bit ago. | ||
| On Breitbart? | ||
| In mid-2012, Treasury and the FHFA agreed to change the terms of the bailout so that Fannie and Freddie would no longer have a fixed dividend, ending the need for circular draws. | ||
| Instead, each company would have a flexible dividend obligation that would rise and fall with their profits. | ||
| Because the new dividend is equal to the positive net worth of each company, less a capital cushion set to decline each year, it is known as the net worth sweep. | ||
| The net worth sweep is super. | ||
| sweeping up part of their net worth based on how much they make each year. | ||
| It's not anything nefarious. | ||
| It's in order to make sure that these companies don't end up destroyed by their repayment to the government. | ||
| Like when, like, it's how Fox and NBC and the like need their highest ratings during net worth sweeps. | ||
| Well, that's the... | ||
| Come on now. | ||
| That's a fun cognate. | ||
| I enjoy it. | ||
| I enjoy the wordplay. | ||
| I love your apps. | ||
| You liar! | ||
| Don't you say you enjoy it with that face? | ||
| I enjoy it. | ||
| I gave it a shot. | ||
| I failed. | ||
| I need... | ||
| I need... | ||
| I like... | ||
| I need constructive feedback as much as anybody else. | ||
| Listen, I like puns. | ||
| Clearly, I was wrong. | ||
| I like puns. | ||
| Look, I am a lot like Alex Jones, in which I am willing to admit when I am wrong, and I will retract that pun. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, I am going to give you... | ||
| I apologize sincerely to Chobana Yogurt. | ||
| I'm going to give you the most generous berth. | ||
| I'm gonna let you have a lot of leeway because that clip was so boring. | ||
| It was so boring. | ||
| It's very hard to listen to Jerome Corsi. | ||
| I can't do it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| How is he part of this? | ||
| He's worse than David Knight. | ||
| These people are so bad! | ||
| Well, it's just because his name rings out in racist circles. | ||
| Like, people who really like the idea that he was all-night birther shit. | ||
| People who love his work in the Swift Boat. | ||
| Like, that sort of stuff. | ||
| They love Jerome Corsi. | ||
| So the fact that he has credibility. | ||
| He has credibility in that circle. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| He has bullshit liar credibility. | ||
| So this is where we leave the Wednesday show, and we transition to Thursday. | ||
| And now we go back into Thursday. | ||
| Yes, and we've covered a lot of... | ||
| We're going back to the future. | ||
| We already talked about a lot of the BuzzFeed coverage, and that takes up a lot of the Thursday show. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But thankfully, I have cut a number of clips. | ||
| That are just good, clean fun from Thursday. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I wish that he had stayed up all night and really been involved. | ||
| But he hasn't. | ||
| He went to bed, obviously. | ||
| I mean, he's well rested. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| But at the same time, he's fucking out of his game. | ||
| There's some really, really dumb shit that he says. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So one of the stories he's telling is about... | ||
| It doesn't even matter. | ||
| It doesn't even matter. | ||
| It's a tertiary piece of news that's about some random... | ||
| One of the stories he's telling is about... | ||
| Insert Alex Jones' story right here. | ||
| It has to do with being mad about David Rockefeller, who's dead, and what he's up to beyond the grave. | ||
| And the health secretary from the 1990s. | ||
| I'm still pretty pissed off at Janet Reno. | ||
| Why not bring her? | ||
| And Jocelyn Elders. | ||
| Jocelyn Elders? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Let's get rid of her. | ||
| He has a lot of ideas about the British nobility. | ||
| I cut out a lot of that. | ||
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How can you have a lot of ideas about the British nobility? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| There aren't a lot of ideas. | ||
| Well, because he thinks that they come from German Transylvanian stock, and they are... | ||
| They do. | ||
| But he thinks that that means that they're, first of all, vampires. | ||
| And then second of all... | ||
| Little different, but maybe. | ||
| The Illuminati stuff. | ||
| The Bavarian Illuminati and all that stuff. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| No, yeah, don't walk back that. | ||
| The Bavarian Illuminati are... | ||
| That's two words right next to each other that will always be insane. | ||
| I love Bavarian chocolate, though. | ||
| I love Illuminati chocolate. | ||
| And chocolate Illuminati. | ||
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Let's call the whole thing off. | |
| So, here's the first clip I'm going to play from the Thursday show. | ||
| This is our episode for Sweeps Week. | ||
| Je suis un peu de le monde francophone. | ||
| Je parle un peu de français et j'adore la France. | ||
| Yes, you do like France. | ||
| I love France. | ||
| You don't really like France, do you? | ||
| I do, I do. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I took many years of French in high school, and I'm still conversant in it. | ||
| Not fluent, certainly. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, I did the same. | ||
| I understood what you were saying. | ||
| If you asked me to speak back to you, I'd be like, nah. | ||
| Anyway, j 'adore la France. | ||
| I will never be able to get the Simpsons phrase out of my head. | ||
| Which is, the French are cheese-eating surrender monkeys. | ||
| It will never escape my brain. | ||
| It's a good turn of phrase. | ||
| I don't believe any of it. | ||
| And historically, the French have won far more victories in battles and all that shit. | ||
| But goddammit, if cheese-eating surrender monkeys isn't perfect. | ||
| Well, at this point, the French election still has not happened. | ||
| When we post this, it probably will have. | ||
| And we are podcasting prior to what could be the end of the EU. | ||
| And the world. | ||
| But we're both firmly on the side of Macron. | ||
| As opposed to the alternative. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I'm not super in his camp, but the alternative is a disaster. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| So anyway, Alex Jones is super into Le Pen, and here is some thoughts about her and her dad. | ||
| Uh, no! | ||
| Not her dad! | ||
| Her dad's bad! | ||
| Because Germany's running the EU right now, and the globalists run Germany. | ||
| That's absolutely a fact. | ||
| And the French know that. | ||
| So she destroys... | ||
| Backron. | ||
| We're doing the 007? | ||
| She's the daughter of a World War II hero, paratrooper, and D-Day that won France's highest award and England's highest award and high awards from the United States. | ||
| And her dad was demonized for being a French patriot and not letting the Muslims take over. | ||
| And it's got to be sweet victory for him to now see his daughter about to be president. | ||
| It's got to be sweet victory. | ||
| Sweet, sweet victory. | ||
| Sweet victory for Jean-Marie Le Pen. | ||
| Let me ask you a question. | ||
| Did he support Vichy France? | ||
| Let me tell you a little story. | ||
| I think he might. | ||
| This is a tiny piece of his troubled history. | ||
| Jean-Marie Le Pen is a fucking monster. | ||
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| But listen to this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is from a nice Guardian article. | ||
| And this is admittedly a tiny piece of his monstrousness. | ||
| Marine Le Pen, who took over the party, the Front National. | ||
| Fascists. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Legally, they are fascists. | ||
| She took over the party in 2011 and is running for French president next year. | ||
| This article came out a little in the past. | ||
| She had led a public relations drive to detoxify the party and move away from its jackbooted imagery and anti-Semitic overtones, which are very real. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| After years... | ||
| She's doing it. | ||
| With anti-Semitic undertones. | ||
| After years of working alongside her father, in April last year she blasted him for being, quote, in a total spiral of strategy somewhere between scorched earth and political suicide. | ||
| He, in turn, attacked his daughter's criticism of his gas chamber comments. | ||
| Do you want to know what those were? | ||
| Do you want to know what his gas chamber comments were? | ||
| You already said gas chamber comments. | ||
| If Marie Le Pen is saying, don't say those gas chamber comments, I don't need to know what those gas chamber comments are, because the worst is they start with, good for gas chambers, and it even gets worse from there. | ||
| Like, that's the best case scenario. | ||
| He said, gas chambers weren't that bad. | ||
| Jean-Marie Le Pen, the former leader of France's far-right Front National, Has once again been convicted of contesting crimes against humanity for saying that gas chambers used to kill Jews in the Holocaust were only a, quote, detail of history. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| There it was. | ||
| Gas chambers. | ||
| Not that bad. | ||
| Which is actually... | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| Which is actually not as bad as some other people within the Front National. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Because they are people who say that, like... | ||
| There's no way Zyklon B was used there. | ||
| That gas chamber shit is a myth. | ||
| That sort of stuff. | ||
| Well, he was still... | ||
| He was a politician. | ||
| He was still a politician. | ||
| He was a monster, but he wasn't going to tell all the truth. | ||
| Yeah, he was the head, not some functionary. | ||
| If you're a functionary, you can say that shit. | ||
| Because you're like, I'm not running, I'm doing data entry here. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| I'm Jerome Corsi. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| He in turn attacked his daughter's criticisms of his gas chamber comments, saying, God, don't ever say those things. | ||
| Saying, quote, you're only betrayed by your own. | ||
| Then, in an interview the same month with the River Roll, a notorious far-right weekly, Jean-Marie Le Pen defended Philippe Petain. | ||
| The leader of France's Nazi collaborationist Vichy regime during the 1940s. | ||
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Called it. | |
| Who was convicted of treason after the war. | ||
| Called it. | ||
| So he's a guy who... | ||
| So called it. | ||
| He's a Nazi! | ||
| You didn't call it. | ||
| You knew that. | ||
| But that's just where we were getting to. | ||
| No, I didn't know anything about him other than I knew Marine Le Pen was a fascist. | ||
| And I knew her father... | ||
| I knew that... | ||
| She and her father disagreed, but from everything that I've read about her, it is purely... | ||
| No, they don't really disagree. | ||
| It is purely substantive. | ||
| Like, whenever she said he has no strategy, that was the thing that I glommed onto. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because... | ||
| Or his strategy is political suicide. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| It's not, I disagree with him. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's that he's doing it wrong. | ||
| This is unmarketable. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't disagree with advertising to children that smoking is great. | ||
| I disagree with how you're advertising to children that smoking is great. | ||
| Yeah, make the advertisements more, like, brightly colored. | ||
| Yeah, you need cartoon characters. | ||
| Bugs Bunny used to smoke. | ||
| Why not do that again? | ||
| You know, that kind of thing. | ||
| Also, Bugs Bunny used to cross-dress. | ||
| He did. | ||
| Trying to push that trans-agenda. | ||
| Globalisms. | ||
| So, John Marie Le Pen is a fucking monster of history. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I don't want to take away from whatever, like, military service he has. | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| Who gives a fuck? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He's a monster. | ||
| It's incidental to the fact that even after the fact, he has publicly and very emphatically supported the Nazis in World War II. | ||
| And the Front National is a part of that. | ||
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He was the leader of that party for a very long time. | |
| For the entire length of it. | ||
| And she is now the leader of it, although recently she stepped down after the first part of the election, the first round. | ||
| She stepped down as the front national leader as a PR move because she realized, I can't detoxify this party. | ||
| She has to distance herself from the party. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Even though she still believes every single fucking thing that they believe. | ||
| Most of it. | ||
| But instead of, like, anti-Semitism, the big front now is anti-Islam stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, I mean, the flavor has changed, but it's the same dish, basically. | ||
| I'm glad that we know racists can grow and change. | ||
| At least they can have some evolution. | ||
| So this next clip is just like... | ||
| Who's the next enemy? | ||
| After Islam? | ||
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| I mean, there won't be one. | ||
| We'll all be dead. | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| I think we're just ending it. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, this is what I keep thinking about. | ||
| This idea that... | ||
| Because there's always going to be another terrorist. | ||
| No, but think about this. | ||
| This is the thing that I keep coming into. | ||
| I listen to Alex Jones every day. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I'm so sorry. | ||
| Well, the thoughts that range through my head are so varied. | ||
| Sometimes it's anger. | ||
| Sometimes it's, this guy's an asshole. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You've correctly summated this podcast. | ||
| One of the things that I keep coming back to, and I really can't figure it out, I've sat down, I've been in the bath, I've been very contemplative, and I've tried to think about what's the positive endgame? | ||
| Because the endgame, realistically, is probably a massive war. | ||
| Like, if you look at the real world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, like, the positive endgame that Alex seems to be pitching against the globalists and all this. | ||
| Like, let's say we take the globalists out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Are we then living in a utopia? | ||
| Like, what is the world after the globalists? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I don't think he has a coherent vision of it. | ||
| Well, it's... | ||
| It's just the free market. | ||
| But then if the free market exists... | ||
| We're going to end up in the exact same... | ||
| With more globalists. | ||
| We're going to end up in the same situation we were in with exploitation, especially of third world countries. | ||
| That's an implicit part of capitalism and free capitalism. | ||
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Well, that's why the GOP can't govern. | |
| Without regulation, you end up with slavery. | ||
| That's just how it works. | ||
| Even in our own country, within very recent memory, we had child workers in mines. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because... | ||
| Industries weren't regulated. | ||
| That's just kind of how it works. | ||
| So you get rid of the globalists, and then nations have sovereignty, but I don't know if that really gets us to where we want to be. | ||
| There's no coherent vision for where they want to be. | ||
| There's only a vision for how they don't like now. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| How things were idyllically better in the past. | ||
| The thing that drives me insane about Labor Day is that people never celebrate the fact that thousands of people died for you to work eight hours a week. | ||
| It should be a recognition of that. | ||
| There have been so many... | ||
| Murders! | ||
| Because people wanted to go from 10 hours a day, 6 days a week, to 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. | ||
| Thousands of people have died for that. | ||
| There were legit riots and murders. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| There were fucking... | ||
| Governments were overthrown. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We've destroyed so many things just so labor has even the slightest bit of control. | ||
| And we recognize none of that. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And we want to take it away. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The argument against unions that you hear from people always comes from anecdotal stories of, yeah, I had to get this thing done, and I had to wait a week for this guy because he was in a union. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And he didn't even work as hard. | ||
| These lazy union guys. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's always the argument there. | ||
| And I told my dad, I was like, yeah, you understand, though, that those guys, Those very same guys fought and died. | ||
| And even though you're not in a union, you benefited from that. | ||
| You only work eight hours a day. | ||
| And he was like, yeah, well, we needed them then. | ||
| And I was like, no. | ||
| They are always fighting against you. | ||
| You just don't know you're always fighting against them. | ||
| Well, yeah, that's basically the reality of the world. | ||
| The fights happened in the past to create systems where people can survive. | ||
| And as time goes on, you forget about the fights, and you forget that the fights led to the current state that we're in, and you start to become complacent, and you're like, why do we fucking need that? | ||
| Why do we need that? | ||
| It's just bullshit. | ||
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And then, as is happening now... | |
| It's going to keep happening. | ||
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Right. | |
| All that shit's going to get rolled back, and we're going to realize we need to fight again. | ||
| And we're like, ah, shit. | ||
| We just should have never let it go away. | ||
| Well, the thing is this. | ||
| The rich are always fighting against us. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And we are only fighting against them when we get pushed too far. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Even after the Great Depression and FDR raised their tax rates up to 90%, which no one speaks about. | ||
| No one ever says that it was that high. | ||
| They're like, no, the rich should be taxed at a progressive tax rate. | ||
| Nobody's like, well, after fucking the Great Depression, it was at 90%. | ||
| It is never talked about that even from that fucking day, they were already working to undermine that shit. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| From day one, they have always been fighting. | ||
| And that should always be understood. | ||
| And we thought we won. | ||
| No. | ||
| And we don't win because we're not always fighting. | ||
| We will be. | ||
| It's coming. | ||
| But, Jordan, let's have some fun. | ||
| Let's have some fun. | ||
| This next clip is fun. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm excited now. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| This is the Alex Jones I love! | ||
| It's one of the... | ||
| When I heard this, I was like, what? | ||
| Because it's kind of in response to Stephen Colbert talking about Trump being Putin's butt boy. | ||
| Cock holster, that sort of stuff. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| It's also sort of in response to these ideas that his anti-Adam Schiff rant was homophobic. | ||
| He's kind of parceling all that together. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And this is so fucking weird. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| And it's... | ||
| I just don't know what to say beyond it's weird. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if you say that Trump is Putin's butt boy... | ||
| It doesn't mean you're bashing gay people. | ||
| Universally, it means you serve that person. | ||
| You're on bottom is what that means. | ||
| And every gay person knows that. | ||
| And the media knows that. | ||
| And it's all just a cult of beating everybody over the head and turning liberal class people into higher society that we bow down to. | ||
| And I don't like it. | ||
| What? | ||
| I'm sick of it. | ||
| I don't care if you're homosexual or heterosexual. | ||
| You don't sexualize kids and you leave people alone and you don't force people. | ||
| I'm sick of gay harassment is basically what it is. | ||
| And I don't dislike gay people. | ||
| I mean liberal establishment Hollywood gay mafia that a lot of liberals talk about that is just in your face and you've got to bow down to and... | ||
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You have to bow down to the gay mafia! | |
| That the liberal establishment is always talking about? | ||
| I think he recently just learned about RuPaul's Drag Race or something like that. | ||
| There has to be, like, something popped up on his TiVo and he was just like, what is this? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Wait a second. | ||
| Queer eye for the straight guy? | ||
| The straight guy needs no queer eye. | ||
| What is fucking happening? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And we're not nearly done with this. | ||
| What is he talking about? | ||
| He's done with gay harassment. | ||
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What? | |
| From who? | ||
| It's so obvious what he's talking about. | ||
| Like, his gay harassment is towards Gavin McGinnis. | ||
| Well, like, the term gay harassment harkens into your mind. | ||
| Or home harassment. | ||
| Well, what you would think would be legitimate gay harassment is, like, if... | ||
| If I was at a bar and a gay dude came up and grabbed my balls and was like, you like this, right? | ||
| And I would go, that's harassment. | ||
| If gay dudes treated you like many straight dudes treat women. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It would be sexual harassment. | ||
| It would have nothing to do with your gender. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You think that that's maybe what he's talking about, but it's not. | ||
| What he's talking about is the societal idea that people force you to accept gay shit or whatever. | ||
| And he's going to speak more on it, and it's... | ||
| Fucking weird. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| I don't understand how someone can feel victimized by someone else's expression of themselves. | ||
| But Alex does. | ||
| And it's... | ||
| Like I said, I don't know how to describe this other than weird. | ||
| Because it's not really bigoted. | ||
| It is, but that's not... | ||
| It's more confusion. | ||
| It's far too confused to be bigoted. | ||
| Our connotation of bigoted is... | ||
| You know what you're doing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And in this situation, he's like somebody who's bi who isn't sure yet. | ||
| Well, I mean, I don't want to put that in his mouth. | ||
| I know, I know. | ||
| But like, it's... | ||
| I'm just saying that he wants to... | ||
| It's 100% definitely more confused than... | ||
| Because you nailed it, I think. | ||
| In that bigotry, often, there's intent involved. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, just like our lie versus stupid argument is always a lie is something you intend to deceive with, and stupid is you're just deceiving because you don't understand. | ||
| Right, where this is confusion versus bigotry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's squarely on the side of confusion. | ||
| Now, that's not to say he's not a bigot, because he certainly is. | ||
| We've already established and proved that many times over. | ||
| But in this clip, what he's expressing is just straight confusion. | ||
| And listen to the rest of this. | ||
| Put up with. | ||
| And go along with. | ||
| You know, neighborhoods wouldn't want a heterosexual Pride Day with naked men and women humping each other, driving through the middle of neighborhoods. | ||
| Why is that what you think Pride Day is? | ||
| Anymore than you'd want a homosexual one doing. | ||
| I mean, we gotta stop. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| We gotta stop already. | ||
| I've been to, like, I've lived in Chicago for seven years. | ||
| I've been to, like, I think five years I've gone to Pride. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, uh, I mean... | ||
| Have there been... | ||
| Naked people fucking each other in the streets? | ||
| Never. | ||
| Never. | ||
| There's never even been nudity. | ||
| I've even been to the naked bike ride and it hasn't been that new. | ||
| But there's never been nudity. | ||
| There are shirtless, greased up dudes and stuff, but that's not the entire parade. | ||
| And I would hope if there was a hetero pride day, there would be naked, greased up dudes. | ||
| But there's also civic organizations just joining in and celebrating. | ||
| It's not all... | ||
| We're gay by all means. | ||
| And, by the way, this premise of your neighborhood doesn't want this parade in it. | ||
| Parades never go through neighborhoods. | ||
| The Chicago Gay Pride Parade goes down Halstead Street, which is... | ||
| Basically the downtown street of Lakeview. | ||
| Well, I grew up in a very small town. | ||
| Addison and Belmont and Halstead. | ||
| It's basically just that loop. | ||
| I mean, it's a neighborhood in the sense that people live there, but it's a business district, essentially. | ||
| It's not a neighborhood in the sense that most people in America think of it, like residential. | ||
| Well, but that's the point, because I grew up in a small town. | ||
| You didn't have a pride parade. | ||
| No, we didn't have a pride parade, but we had parades. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so if you are somebody who grew up in a small town, or who still lives in a small town, and somebody's telling you about pride parade, to you, that doesn't mean what it does to us living in a city where we've experienced this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Much like Alex Jones talking about what college is like. | ||
| Exactly, exactly. | ||
| To you, that means... | ||
| I saw a marching band with dicks everywhere! | ||
| That's what your mental image is. | ||
| Your version of a parade is like the high school track field. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| And the band is going around in a circle. | ||
| Right! | ||
| So of course with your narrative of what the Pride Parade is, it never connects to what it actually is because you've never experienced it. | ||
| Yeah, it's super bizarre. | ||
| My only complaints that I've ever had about the Pride Parade is like... | ||
| This isn't gay enough. | ||
| Like, I've always left the Pride Parade being like, I didn't see a single dick. | ||
| You didn't. | ||
| I don't know what's going on here. | ||
| I think that a lot of people are co-opting gay identity. | ||
| I'm a little bit like, I'm like the stuffy old dude, but I'm not a part of the community. | ||
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I'm like, nah, it was gayer back when I was a kid. | |
| Like, that kind of thing. | ||
| I don't know why, but like... | ||
| So to me, this rings... | ||
| The Pride Parade has gotten too mainstream. | ||
| Too many people support it. | ||
| But like, even... | ||
| What was it? | ||
| Back in 2015, when the Supreme Court made their ruling about gay marriage the day before Pride in Chicago. | ||
| Yes, I remember that. | ||
| And it was such an awesome party. | ||
| But even then, it wasn't... | ||
| Just people fucking on floats. | ||
| Like, it wasn't that. | ||
| It was a wonderful celebration and everyone hugging each other. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was just great. | ||
| It was a, it was, like, not to sound trite, but it was a human pride day. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Where it wasn't about being gay. | ||
| It was about accepting everybody. | ||
| Now Alex is going to get into other parades. | ||
| I feel like we skipped over the fact that he said, Trump equals butt boy. | ||
| Well, we'll actually get back to that. | ||
| But that's all I want to talk about. | ||
| Put a pin in that, because it's coming back. | ||
| But Alex for now is going to get into more parades that I think are bad examples. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I mean, normal parades for the VFW or the military or football team or St. Paddy's Day are fun, and you take the kids out. | ||
| Why is it... | ||
| So, like, every time I've been to the St. Patrick's Day parade, I've seen dicks. | ||
| You know how fun it is for children on the St. Patrick's Day parade? | ||
| In Chicago? | ||
| With drunk-ass assholes throwing shit around. | ||
| Literally, I've seen dicks every time I've gone. | ||
| So many times, yeah. | ||
| Because everyone's just pissing on the street. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Now, granted, maybe at the Gay Pride parade people are pissing on the street, too, but every time I've... | ||
| I've never seen a dick because everyone has the discretion to go in an alley. | ||
| I have seen... | ||
| I've just seen drunk-ass dudes in green throwing up on the street, pissing everywhere. | ||
| I don't know, VFW marches or military marches. | ||
| I've seen more sex on St. Patrick's Day. | ||
| In a bathroom than I've ever seen on Gay Pride. | ||
| Also, what's super cool is if you live in a big city, they have police blotters and blogs that keep track of calls to the police. | ||
| And if you look at it, I've actually done some research on this. | ||
| I don't have the specific numbers in front of me, but the numbers for the Blackhawks win, when they won the Stanley Cup two years. | ||
| Actually, the Cubs... | ||
| Winning the World Series was shockingly devoid of tons of crime. | ||
| That one was low. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's a once-in-a-lifetime experience. | ||
| You're not going to commit a crime. | ||
| You've got to live it up. | ||
| You would have thought that that would lead to tons of crime. | ||
| You know, it's weird. | ||
| But the Blackhawk celebrations, St. Patrick's Day, these are consistently, they have way more crimes than gay pride. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As ever. | ||
| Of course they have. | ||
| But that premise is flawed on its face. | ||
| Now let's get back to it. | ||
| Gay parade. | ||
| A bunch of naked men swinging their weenies around. | ||
| Excuse my French. | ||
| And look, dude, just go do it in your bedroom. | ||
| At least say dick if you want to say excuse my French. | ||
| You go out to dinner with your friends and they keep kissing and French kissing at the dinner table in front of you. | ||
| And it's not that you're even upset about it. | ||
| It's grandstanding. | ||
| It's like get a room. | ||
| What? | ||
| It's one thing if somebody's leaving and, you know, they kiss their girlfriend or their wife or their husband, bye, or, you know, some of that's going on, or somebody just got married, but everybody knows the couples you've gone out with, and they start macking down in front of you and grabbing all over each other, and it's like a show-off thing, and the word is those are the couples that aren't doing anything, you know, in the bedroom. | ||
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What? | |
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| You'll just be sitting there in a hotel lobby with your kids and two dudes are grabbing each other's rear ends. | ||
| They're all over each other French kissing. | ||
| I am so pissed off because at this point my recorder glitched and I lost the next thing that he says. | ||
| But he says about these dudes in a hotel lobby grabbing their asses. | ||
| They're doing it just to show off for you. | ||
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I know! | |
| What? | ||
| This has such the ring of like, I just want to have one experience with a dude. | ||
| It sounds so much like, these two people. | ||
| It definitely sounds like that. | ||
| It sounds very gay. | ||
| But let's unpack the logic that he's using. | ||
| So, I mean, the parade stuff is in the past. | ||
| And so now he's using this idea of you go out with your friends and, you know, this guy... | ||
| Going out to dinner. | ||
| A couple, and they're just kissing the whole time. | ||
| You're a third wheel. | ||
| That's fucking... | ||
| That is rude. | ||
| And you're like, Jesus, I came out to eat dinner with you guys, and you just keep making out at me. | ||
| We agree that that's rude. | ||
| It's rude. | ||
| Whether it's a guy and a girl, or two guys, or two girls, it's rude. | ||
| Or you name it. | ||
| I'm not sure the point he's making. | ||
| I don't think he's making a point. | ||
| I think he's trying to track that to gay pride parades. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| In terms of being like, that's the equivalent of thousands of people making out in the street. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or some shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it doesn't work. | ||
| You're a lonely old white man, and all of these people are enjoying themselves at you. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| That's what he's arguing. | ||
| It's at me. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Now hold on. | ||
| This rant isn't done. | ||
| I told you my recorder glitched out a tiny bit, and I lost that chunk, but it picked up immediately. | ||
| Here's the end of this. | ||
| You're running around, hopping around, trying to get attention for yourself. | ||
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And I, for one, am sick of it. | |
| And when I say something like, Chiff being a globalist butt boy, The media says I'm being homophobic. | ||
| If I wanted to be homophobic, I would say horrible things. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I'm a libertarian. | ||
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What? | |
| What my speech is is very clear. | ||
| That doesn't track at all! | ||
| And by the way, Trump is not Putin's butt boy. | ||
| Trump has become the butt boy of John McCain and Lindsey Graham and Congressman Peter Schiff. | ||
| Just for fun. | ||
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Trump! | |
| Trump! | ||
| Has become the butt boy! | ||
| Of John McCain? | ||
| And just to be clear, his name is Adam Schiff, not Peter Schiff. | ||
| You should hire a fact checker. | ||
| I think he was talking about Peter King, maybe? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| No, it's obviously because he did that whole rant about Schiff. | ||
| Yeah, I guess he was... | ||
| But I fucking love that. | ||
| If I wanted to be homophobic, I'd say horrible shit. | ||
| Yeah, I'd say horrible shit. | ||
| Dude, you nailed it. | ||
| You don't need to start now. | ||
| You got that shit on... | ||
| Just on the back burner. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| The idea of, like, gay people exist in public, and I'm sick of it, that is horrible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, just that expression. | ||
| If I wanted to be homophobic, I would say all the shit I just said. | ||
| So we got two more clips, Jordan. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The first one is another narrative that he was trying to pitch on the Thursday show that is stupid, and then the last one is one of the most unfortunate... | ||
| He just said... | ||
| Trump is the butt boy of John McCain. | ||
| And the globalist folks. | ||
| I just want to stop it right there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I don't want to take him out of context. | ||
| Because within context, he said, Trump is the butt boy of John McCain. | ||
| It's going to get worse. | ||
| That's my favorite thing. | ||
| It's going to get worse. | ||
| Trump is the butt boy of John McCain. | ||
| So here is this clip. | ||
| Why isn't that in the mainstream white papers, huh? | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Wait for it, because be a coiled spring. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The next clip I play after this one, that's when we can really tee off. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But this one is another dumbass narrative that he's pitching. | ||
| It's about Bill Nye, the science guy. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Bill Nye, the science guy, edited it out in the second airing of it. | ||
| The science guy. | ||
| Edited it on your TiVos, you can go in and do this, and on your DVRs, where they said that chromosomes determine the sex. | ||
| So that's transphobic to say that chromosomes create sex. | ||
| No, it's in your mind, you see. | ||
| So it's hurtful to say this is happening. | ||
| So here's the thing that's going on there. | ||
| He thinks that... | ||
| He's conflating gender identity with genetics. | ||
| Gender and sex, basically. | ||
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Right. | |
| But at the same time, so did this episode that Bill Nye put out in the 90s. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Because science evolves. | ||
| There was a meme that was starting to go around on the right-wing Reddit about trying to point out that Bill Nye is a hypocrite because he said this then and now he says this. | ||
| But if you actually look at... | ||
| The quote that they used. | ||
| It was not a quote. | ||
| They just misquoted the old episode. | ||
| And then further, they didn't actually watch the new episode. | ||
| Because this is from the Human Sexuality episode of Bill Nye Saves the World. | ||
| His new series. | ||
| The new Netflix special. | ||
| Science is the process by which we understand nature. | ||
| By which we understand our place in the world. | ||
| How we all fit in. | ||
| We used to think it was pretty straightforward. | ||
| X and Y chromosome for males, two X's for females. | ||
| But we see more combinations than that in the real life. | ||
| And even for people with just two sex chromosomes, hormones can vary widely. | ||
| So can anatomy. | ||
| That's what makes someone male or female is not so clear-cut. | ||
| So even in his new episode he's discussing how science has progressed since the 90s. | ||
| Giving you the scientific explanation for why. | ||
| Like, even when I was in high school, I understood that there were people sometimes who have three crumbs. | ||
| Right. | ||
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XXY, and that counts as Z. There are people like that. | |
| Even tribal groups understood intersexed people. | ||
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Right. | |
| If you look into Native American understandings of culture, they have seven, eight genders. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, like, all this stuff. | ||
| Maybe that wasn't based on science, but you can't punk Bill Nye for this. | ||
| The point being, Bill Nye said one thing in the 90s, and at that time it reflected what he thought, or what the prevailing scientific knowledge at the time was. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Now, amazingly, over time, that has been revised and revised and revised. | ||
| Which is what science is. | ||
| scientific knowledge of the time. | ||
| Which is how science works. | ||
| That's what the anti-science crowd doesn't understand, is that like, one of the most important pieces of science is a lot of it's up for debate. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And things, like, You do a bunch of experiments and that's how you come up with a theorem. | |
| It's never a hard and fast rule. | ||
| Some piece of evidence might show up in the future that changes the experiment. | ||
| It might change what you're understanding and then everything gets re-evaluated. | ||
| That's the myth that I get from right-wing people, i.e. | ||
| my family, all the time. | ||
| Which is that... | ||
| If you believed something then and now it's different, that means that you don't believe in anything. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As opposed to... | ||
| Your current belief invalidates your past belief. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And your past belief invalidates your current belief. | ||
| You're a flip-flopper of the highest order. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Whereas if you are just a physicist, right, then you say force equals mass times acceleration. | ||
| And that's true. | ||
| But it's true most of the time. | ||
| And then Einstein came around and he said E equals MC squared, which is a very... | ||
| It's a kind of condensation of that same formula. | ||
| It doesn't invalidate the prior force equals mass times acceleration. | ||
| It adds to it. | ||
| It adds to it. | ||
| So it is not that I don't... | ||
| Think that that prior stuff applies. | ||
| It's that now it is more specific. | ||
| And now it is more accurate. | ||
| And that is what science is. | ||
| It's striving for more accurate. | ||
| Not striving for changing its mind back and forth on this and this and this. | ||
| It's that within the available information we have, this is our... | ||
| Best summation. | ||
| And I'm not a scientist, and I'm not, like, that part of my brain doesn't really work all that well, but I know a lot of people who are of that. | ||
| I have some friends who are doctors and what have you. | ||
| And all of them, the essence of what they're into is that, like, at any time, everything can change. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And everyone I know who's ever done a study is like, well, we're looking at this. | ||
| We're not beholden to the outcome. | ||
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Right. | |
| And if we're proven wrong, that's even more interesting. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So... | ||
| There's nothing better than being proven wrong because then you learn something. | ||
| Everybody thinks that science is like really stuffy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And like, no, it's all about blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Equations. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's not. | ||
| In the same way that logic seems really dry and it's not. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's... | ||
| Or just that... | ||
| There's an art to both things, and they're alive. | ||
| They're alive. | ||
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Right. | |
| They're not static. | ||
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Right. | |
| And it's insane. | ||
| But that's insane to somebody who believes that an ideology is static. | ||
| No, but that's what's fascinating. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because we can take Alex Jones' beliefs back to, like, when he was in the 90s, and his beliefs are static. | ||
| Right. | ||
| About the globalists and what have you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So his frame of reference for everything has been set. | ||
| Since Bill Nye made that first episode. | ||
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Right. | |
| Now, culture has grown. | ||
| Information, knowledge has grown around him. | ||
| And his belief that, no, there is a group of evil people who are trying to destroy us all. | ||
| They're trying to use this eugenics-based system and all this. | ||
| That has never changed. | ||
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Right. | |
| So for him, it does look like people are just constantly flip-flopping around. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And that's stupid. | ||
| It looks like a... | ||
| It's a zealotry. | ||
| The climate denier argument is always like, well, you know, in the 70s they said we were cooling. | ||
| And now they say we're heating. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And you're like, no, that's... | ||
| You're misrepresenting what they said because you didn't understand it then. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You dismissed it out of course, and then now it doesn't seem like they're saying the same thing, even though you didn't bother to look into it, because you've already dismissed it. | ||
| If you use headlines and buzzwords, it looks like someone is saying the exact opposite thing. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But if you look at the science... | ||
| If you look at reality, if you look at the math, like, the math is always true. | ||
| Yeah, it's so frustrating. | ||
| But anyway, throughout this 30-hour... | ||
| And our 30-hour podcast. | ||
| Yeah, we've done about 10% of their broadcast. | ||
| They have spouted a bunch of bullshit. | ||
| And like I said, we don't need to know what Owen Troyer did during this broadcast. | ||
| We don't need to know what Lionel did. | ||
| Did Millie Weaver have anything to do? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| How about Leanne McAdoo? | ||
| How about your deepest love? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| I didn't see her. | ||
| If she was on, I didn't see her. | ||
| So it was an all-dude telethon. | ||
| No, no, there were some ladies. | ||
| There were some, like, just weirdo ladies. | ||
| He had special guests. | ||
| I don't even remember their names. | ||
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| I have no idea. | ||
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All right. | |
| People in the world of, like, I don't know why I remember his name, but there's a guy named Gerald Salenti. | ||
| He's another, like, frequent infamous guest. | ||
| Because you love names like that. | ||
| Yeah, it's a good name. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But there were other, like, there were some ladies who came on. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Female Ron Pauls. | ||
| What have you. | ||
| But we started this episode with that BuzzFeed bullshit. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then once we got to the actual Alex Jones' broadcast, he started to spout some misgivings about Trump. | ||
| And there were signs in him that he's moving away from Trump. | ||
| Now this last clip that I'm going to play, I want this on the record. | ||
| Because I think he's going to walk it back. | ||
| Eyebrow raise. | ||
| I think he's going to walk this back and pretend he never said this. | ||
| But this is my parting shot, and perhaps the most important thing I think he said during that 30-hour broadcast. | ||
| And so the truth is, Trump is the Johnson holster for the warmongering neocons and Democrats. | ||
| Trump is the Johnson holster of the military-industrial complex. | ||
| Good luck walking that back. | ||
| What's the Johnson holster? | ||
| Like sucking their dicks. | ||
| Oh, he was just using a euphemism. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Johnson is a dick. | ||
| So Colbert said cock holster? | ||
| Something like that, yeah. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| So he's saying that Trump is the cock holster for the military-industrial complex. | ||
| Boy, there's no walking that back, though. | ||
| Doesn't seem like it. | ||
| You pretty much said Donald Trump... | ||
| Your friend. | ||
| ...holds his mouth and anus open in order to be inserted with the peni, the respective penises... | ||
| You don't think the military industrial... | ||
| Of the military industrial complex. | ||
| You don't think they just have one dick? | ||
| I would assume that they're a team. | ||
| So, in context, that cockholster comment, I'd like to put that, I'd like to frame that in juxtaposition of this, something he said, back in February. | ||
| You know, I've admired Ron Paul and known him and been a friend, I guess, for 20 years. | ||
| I've been interviewing him 21 years. | ||
| Maybe friends the last 10. But it's not the same as it is with Trump. | ||
| Trump is so fire-breathing. | ||
| So energetic, so cunning, so real, and he's having results so amazing that it just makes me be endeared to Trump. | ||
| I'm ready to die for Trump at this point. | ||
| And I'm already ready to die for America. | ||
| It's the same feeling I have for America because he is America. | ||
| You're America. | ||
| So, fire breathing! | ||
| Cunning Trump is getting some cocks in his ass. | ||
| I'm ready to die for Trump. | ||
| Trump is America. | ||
| You dumb, dumb son of a bitch. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| What an idiot. | ||
| That's within... | ||
| That was two and a half months ago. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's so stupid. | ||
| They elected Trump. | ||
| They're also stupid. | ||
| What kind of principles? | ||
| There's no other way to describe it at this point. | ||
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| The question is not, will they? | ||
| It is, when will people who voted for Trump realize they've been turned into the cockholsters of the military-industrial complex? | ||
| It'll just be gradual. | ||
| And, you know, Alex Jones is a bellwether. | ||
| It does seem like he's getting there. | ||
| He just said, like, that's rough. | ||
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That has to... | |
| Do you think this hurts more than losing his kids? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I think it does, right? | ||
| I think he could give a shit about losing his kids. | ||
| He's definitely spoken with more intensity about this than that. | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| But at the same time, at the beginning he was talking about how Trump, because of the globalist influence, he's betraying them. | ||
| Trump is the cock holster of the military-industrial complex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is him betraying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He is a hypocrite. | ||
| A liar? | ||
| And now, I really think what I want my summation to be of this episode, because of the twist of that last clip, he's a bad propagandist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a propagandist, but he is disloyal. | ||
| I think he's hurt. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think he's an emotional guy. | ||
| That's why you never let feelings get involved. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Like you're a whore. | ||
| This is why Goebbels didn't fucking fuck up. | ||
| Like you're a sex worker. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You don't kiss. | ||
| You fuck. | ||
| You don't kiss. | ||
| And Alex Jones kissed. | ||
| Also, I love the imaginary self-righteousness of it's homophobic to say cock holster. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I can say Johnson holster. | ||
| That's not homophobic at all. | ||
| It's the word, not the intent that's homophobic. | ||
| Yeah, they used to put that on t-shirts. | ||
| Yeah, Johnson holster. | ||
| I genuinely thought, because he's a guns guy, I genuinely thought, like, oh, that's a very specific type of holster. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| I didn't realize that he was using a euphemistic term. | ||
| The problem with metaphors when you're a Second Amendment guy. | ||
| Yeah, he was too busy being fricked in the B! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, Alex, you suck. | ||
| Your marathon was terrible. | ||
| Hiring Mike Cernovich is a mistake. | ||
| It is a big mistake. | ||
| Your team sucks. | ||
| I think bailing on Trump is not a mistake. | ||
| I think the sooner he does it, the better for him. | ||
| I would say he should have done it before now. | ||
| I would say he should have done it two weeks before the election. | ||
| If he was as brilliant as he said, capable of seeing the future as well as he can... | ||
| I know their framework. | ||
| I know their plans. | ||
| He should definitely have bailed on Trump way earlier. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I think it's a mistake now because he's gone too far. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, you fucking heard him say he'd die for Trump. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
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Right. | |
| I would never say that about any politician, even that I loved, that I thought was awesome. | ||
| I would never... | ||
| I saw you squint there. | ||
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Maybe... | |
| Maybe Robert Kennedy? | ||
| The only... | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Like, he had a really good run right before he was assassinated. | ||
| Of American politicians, maybe RFK. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Other than that, maybe Solon. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| Like, from the history of the world, maybe Solon. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's just because of his treatment of the hectamaroy. | ||
| What? | ||
| Cincinnati's? | ||
| He had a good run? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He was the guy who... | ||
| I don't know if Cincinnati's. | ||
| He ran... | ||
| He had great chili, right? | ||
| He had great chili. | ||
| And you remember those ads where it was like, Cincinnati's! | ||
| And then they... | ||
| Yeah, anyways. | ||
| Who was he really, though? | ||
| No, he was the famed story of the guy who was a military leader, became a farmer. | ||
| Then they were under attack in Athens or whatever. | ||
| This has to be Rome. | ||
| Could be Rome. | ||
| Cincinnatus is a Latin name, not a Greek. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Yeah, but the general gist of the story is guy is former war hero, gets on a farm, the city is under attack, they go to him, they say, we're giving you all of the power. | ||
| You do whatever it is that you need to do. | ||
| And then the moment he's accomplished his goal, he leaves power. | ||
| That's very similar to Solon. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's very, very similar. | ||
| Very similar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The point being, this is not a thing that happens in real life. | ||
| No. | ||
| What happens in real life is Caesar. | ||
| Well, to be fair, Solon did happen in real life, but... | ||
| Well, technically so did Cincinnatus, according to the history, but to me that has the ring of myth. | ||
| That is the ring of Die Hard. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Die Hard Arcade. | ||
| So, Jordan, I think if I want to put a button on this... | ||
| What's your button? | ||
| It is... | ||
| The punch button from Die Hard Arcade. | ||
| We've made a lot of hay out of this. | ||
| We've had some fun. | ||
| We've made some laughs. | ||
| But the reality is, this is a desperation cash grab on Alex's part. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This whole thing is... | ||
| There's no substance behind it. | ||
| It is just, I need money, please give me money. | ||
| 30 hours of programming. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And outside of the Alex Jones show, all the rest of the programming is unwatchable. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Utter garbage. | ||
| That's the thing that I've been... | ||
| I think if Alex Jones goes, so goes Infowars. | ||
| Not if he's bringing in Cernovich, though. | ||
| Cernovich is close. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I haven't seen Cernovich yet, so we'll withhold judgment until we do our first Cernovich episode. | ||
| He still sucks, but he has more juice than Jerome Corsi. | ||
| We'll call it Nirnovich fight. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| We'll call it... | ||
| I don't know how to lisp knowledge fight. | ||
| It's not going to work. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| There's nothing but a list. | ||
| To summate again, fuck this shit. | ||
| Alex, you're... | ||
| I mean, listen, I want to start a new thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would like to end each of our episodes with a promo. | ||
| A wrestling promo. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Alex, your Fanny and Freddy narrative is absurd. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| You got no leg to stand on. | ||
| I'm coming for you. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| That's where the wrestling came in. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say, you were just kind of saying words pretty regularly. | ||
| You were like, I don't like this. | ||
| That's not a very bombastic wrestling promo right there. | ||
| I'm too tired. | ||
| We've been doing this for three and a half hours. | ||
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Have we? | |
| I'm too tired to really come up with a full... | ||
| I'm only getting stronger, baby. | ||
| Listen up, Alex Jones. | ||
| If you're going to pull this Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bullshit, throwing things down, let me tell you something. | ||
| I'm coming for you, and I'm going to put you into the knowledge fight coffin at the end of the day. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| That was more nonsensical. | ||
| Yeah, that was much better. | ||
| Stupid. | ||
| Well, that's not a very fair criticism. | ||
| Not you. | ||
| Alex, you're stupid. | ||
| Alex, you are stupid. | ||
| You're in trouble. | ||
| No matter how much money you raise, you're getting sued, and you're gonna lose. | ||
| I think that is the greatest thing about the BuzzFeed article. | ||
| You can have a million followers. | ||
| You can have 10 million followers, and they can all be giving you money. | ||
| But you slandered someone who's a billionaire, and he's not going to let you settle. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, just like we talked about earlier, the rich are always fighting the war against us. | ||
| Well, if he's fighting the war against Alex... | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I'm okay with that. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I am, too. | ||
| Because Hamdi Ulicaya seems like a fucking... | ||
| He's one of us, even though he's a billionaire. | ||
| Yeah, agreed. | ||
| I think it is... | ||
| I think that BuzzFeed article is right. | ||
| In that Alex is that tragic figure of, it is not that someone else is taking Alex down. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's that Alex is taking himself down, and he doesn't know how not to. | ||
| That's what's fascinating. | ||
| If you get to the end of that article, it talks about his divorce and custody case specifically. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And basically it lays out that all he had to do was show up. | ||
| And not say a goddamn word. | ||
| Present himself as a good dad, and he would have won the case. | ||
| Yeah, easily. | ||
| Because the judge specifically said his job has no bearing on this. | ||
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Right. | |
| And she did not allow that stuff in court. | ||
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Right. | |
| All he had to do was not be a dick, and he couldn't. | ||
| Couldn't do it. | ||
| He couldn't do it. | ||
| He lost that case for himself, and he's going to keep on losing. | ||
| He has to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're watching an archetype of a man laid low. | ||
| And it's fascinating because we know he deserves it. | ||
| It's fascinating, it's funny, it's inevitable, and it is the most infuriating thing. | ||
| Because it is that idea of, like, can't we just get to the future where you've already lost? | ||
| Like, why do we have to put ourselves through it? | ||
| Like, Trump is going to lose, he's going to be impeached, something terrible is going to happen to him. | ||
| Why can't we just be there already? | ||
| Why do we have to wait and watch it? | ||
| Because we know. | ||
| Well, I think because... | ||
| It happens every fucking time. | ||
| Because I think that this goes back to how we've failed in every other test throughout history. | ||
| Now is our chance to actually close the door. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Anyway, you can follow us, guys, if you want to. | ||
| If you are still listening! | ||
| If you're still listening, tweet... | ||
| At knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Subscribe to us. | ||
| Knowledge Fight on iTunes. | ||
| Also, if you're still listening at this point, please send us a tweet. | ||
| Hashtag RappaportStillLives. | ||
| That is our... | ||
| That's just your trick to see if anybody stayed to the end. | ||
| That's our symbol. | ||
| That's really all it is, yeah. | ||
| If you've made it this far, honorary policy wonk status. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| But also, you can check out our website, knowledgefight.com. | ||
| We have a bunch of extra content on there, documentation of Alex Jones' lies, also a biography in progress about him. | ||
| If you'd like to email us, you can email us at knowledgefightatgmail.com. | ||
| True, but you cut me off. | ||
| And then you have a new... | ||
| You cut me off. | ||
| I had a... | ||
| We have a really interesting new piece of Alex Jones' biography. | ||
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Oh, really? | |
| From an episode in 2015 that we're not going to cover. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That'll be up on the website soon. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| But, you know, hey, guys, if you want to be a policy wonk, donate to the show. | ||
| If you want to have us do an episode from history, $10 or more a month, we'll do it, and it'll be shorter than this one. | ||
| This is what happens when you do an episode when I'm not here. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| I have to just fucking throw everything at it. | ||
| It just so happens, too, that you were gone for an episode and so many weird things have happened in the world since. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But anyway. | ||
| Which means in four days, the most weird... | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It just keeps happening. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Guys, this has been... | ||
| Fun? | ||
| Jordan's been fun? | ||
| It has been amazingly fun. | ||
| Thank you all for listening. | ||
| We appreciate it so much, and thank you for everyone who's joining up, and we see the numbers skyrocketing, and fucking thank you. | ||
| Thanks to all of the new policy wonks, thanks to all of the upcoming policy wonks, and just so you know. | ||
| And a new mission. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Get a celebrity to retweet about our show, and I'll send you a shirt. | ||
| You got a shirt if you can get a celebrity. | ||
| It is not going to be a Knowledge Fight Brandon shirt. | ||
| It is going to be a shirt Dan has in his closet. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But also, this is going to create a real debate about what is a celebrity. | ||
| And I'm ready to have that conversation. | ||
| But please try and get celebrities to retweet our show. | ||
| Anyway, Jordan, we're dudes who like to get into it. | ||
| We get into it. | ||
| We get into the weeds. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We're in the mucky mucky. | ||
| We're in the nitty gritty of... | ||
| There's a term for that. | ||
| It would be policy. | ||
| We're in the nitty gritty of policy. | ||
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Right. | |
| But, like, what would the noun be for... | ||
| We walks! | ||
| We walks! | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |