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May 1, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
02:07:44
#35: Custody Press Conference

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened when Alex Jones decided to throw a (possibly very fake) press conference after his custody trial concluded. Topics covered include: Is there a world record for Time Spent Surviving Pregnant On A Boat? How often does Alex scold people for not being on board with chimeras? Does Alex Jones know what trolling is? How much better would Alex Jones be with a dedicated hype man?

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alex jones
26:07
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dan friesen
01:02:09
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jordan holmes
33:32
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink red wine and discuss the Pratt Falls.
Pratt Falls, not the right word.
I think I was looking for pitfalls.
jordan holmes
Yeah, pitfalls probably.
Unless Alex Jones is taking some funny falls every now and then.
dan friesen
He is an actor!
jordan holmes
He's 100% honest about everything, even when he trips and takes a dive.
dan friesen
Even when he's doing mime work.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah.
His space work is incredible.
dan friesen
We talk about the life and times of Alex Jones.
That's what I was trying to get to.
jordan holmes
Hey, let me ask you, how much do you know about Alex Jones?
dan friesen
So much.
jordan holmes
You know so much about Alex Jones?
dan friesen
What about you?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Tell anything about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
I think that we should start a show.
jordan holmes
This sounds like a good premise.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
It would be like me explaining things that happened in Alex Jones' life to you and you being surprised at how crazy it is.
jordan holmes
When we finally do this show, it's going to be amazing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Who would want that, though?
jordan holmes
That's a really good question.
dan friesen
Speaking of the people who want it, I'd like to give a shout-out to our friend Mike.
What's up, Michael?
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's right.
Thanks for donating to the show.
jordan holmes
Hey, Michael, welcome to the ranks of policy wonks.
dan friesen
Also, what's up?
We got another new policy wonk this week.
What's up, Allison?
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Allison, you're a policy wonk, too?
This world has gone mad.
dan friesen
It is.
It's a mad, mad, mad, mad, mad world, because what's up to my best friend in the world, I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Nikki!
dan friesen
Three donators.
jordan holmes
It was so nice to meet you, Mr. Gifts.
dan friesen
What a big week for us.
jordan holmes
It has been a big week.
dan friesen
This is very spectacular.
It's been a big week for us and a big week for dumbass Alex.
jordan holmes
It has been a bad week.
It has been a nightmare storm of a week for Alex Jones.
dan friesen
I would say that Friday had to have been one of the worst days he's probably ever had.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would probably agree.
dan friesen
Well, Thursday into Friday.
If those of you out there aren't paying attention, aren't keeping up, on Thursday night, the jury in his custody case came back and they were against him.
jordan holmes
They were not big fans of his.
dan friesen
No, it turns out...
jordan holmes
Which I can't understand.
dan friesen
He had sole custody of his children before.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And the jury came back with a decision to give the wife joint custody.
jordan holmes
But she also has the decision over where the kids live.
dan friesen
Yes, and they're going to be living with her, and Alex Jones now only has visitation rights.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
And she gets to decide all that.
So, there's more to be worked out, apparently, in the courts.
Like, the judge has to, you know, get the ratios of time and stuff like that down.
But it's an L. It's an L for Alex.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
It's not good.
jordan holmes
It's the first of many court L's that Alex is going to be experiencing here.
dan friesen
The Chobani lawsuit is moving ahead as planned.
jordan holmes
Gonna be fire on that one.
dan friesen
So we're gonna get into our episode and I'll explain to you what we're gonna be talking about today, but before we do, it's time for our out-of-context drop of Alex Jones.
alex jones
It's fun to laugh at Alex Jones.
It's fun!
unidentified
We agree.
jordan holmes
Yes, it is!
It's so fun to laugh at Alex Jones.
Goddammit, he's becoming self-aware on us.
dan friesen
Yeah, the rock has become sentient, as it were.
So before, we're getting into this, and boy, I keep saying we're about to get into this.
jordan holmes
We have been about to get into a lot of things for a long time.
dan friesen
I'm a little hungover, I've got to be honest.
So, I had an idea.
And this is a new thing that we're going to start up.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I haven't told you about this.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So you're on board for this.
jordan holmes
So far.
dan friesen
You don't know.
jordan holmes
Currently.
dan friesen
You don't know what it is, but you're on board.
jordan holmes
That would be great if in the next five minutes I rage quit and the whole show ends.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
I'm not on board for this!
Get me the fuck out of here!
dan friesen
It would be fitting of this podcast at this tumultuous time in Alex Jones' life for us to just break up crazily.
So.
If you donate to our Patreon at any level, you become a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
You get, you know, Alex knights you over our airwaves.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And you are officially in the weeds and the details about policy and about our government.
Now, if you donate $10 or more a month, I am going to make this offer.
I have found a bunch of old episodes of Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And you can choose any date.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
And as long as I can find the episode, we will do an episode about some day in the past of your choice.
It could be any day.
It could be the day of the Boston bombing.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
dan friesen
It could be the day that Trump announced his candidacy.
See what he was saying back then.
jordan holmes
That's a good question.
dan friesen
So we're willing to do that.
If you donate $10 a month, you can just send us an email.
And, just to tease this even more, I would like to take us back.
To February 1st of 2016.
I found an amazing clip of Alex.
Now keep in mind, this is the day after the Iowa...
jordan holmes
Okay.
This was the first one where Trump won like 17% or something and wound up taking it.
dan friesen
Yep, yep.
jordan holmes
And everybody was like, this is a blip on the radar.
I was not the place, and I know it's supposed to be that.
But Trump will never win!
Trump will never win!
dan friesen
That's what the rest of the world was talking about.
jordan holmes
What was Alex Jones talking about?
alex jones
I was told by a genetic engineer.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
alex jones
About a project they were on in England once, and I never told the story on air because it's so fantastical.
Oh, God.
They had in tanks people with gills, and they were little babies, and they were in there just gulping, clawing at the sides.
You see a turtle at the zoo, and it wants out, and you feel for it.
unidentified
They got humanoids crossed with fish and stuff.
I mean, we are screwed, people.
alex jones
I mean, do you understand that?
And I know I keep obsessing because it's in the news, what they're doing now.
They don't show it to you.
They just go, yeah, gestating on farms or embryos of humans growing in animals.
No, it's beyond that.
They take them out.
They keep them alive.
unidentified
The gulping humanoids in their tanks.
alex jones
Scrabbling at the side with human horror in their eyes.
unidentified
Human horror in their eyes, but fish.
jordan holmes
Gills in their place where humans would normally not have gills.
dan friesen
So that's what he was up to while everyone else was talking about the rise of Trump.
jordan holmes
So everyone was like, Trump is not as scary as a joke.
And Alex Jones was like, Fish people!
dan friesen
He's basically living in the shadow over Innsmouth.
He's living in an H.P. Lovecraft novel.
jordan holmes
One fish, two fish.
dan friesen
Red fish.
jordan holmes
Fish are taking over human beings!
unidentified
Chimeras, no!
dan friesen
Look at the horror in their eyes!
unidentified
Fish people in tanks in England with horror in their eyes.
dan friesen
Human horror.
jordan holmes
Human horror in their eyes.
dan friesen
The kind of fear that only humans can experience was happening to these fish people.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Now, let me be honest with you.
I got really depressed on Wednesday, and I was really down, and so I started researching.
Can I have a pet fox?
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right?
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Now, the answer to that is if I have $8,000 to send to Russia, and meh, maybe.
dan friesen
There's not a fox embargo going on with Russia right now?
jordan holmes
There probably is.
You can also order wild foxes from Indiana, but they're not happy foxes.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
They're like, you get a pen, and you're like, hey, fox, how you doing?
And I was like...
dan friesen
Can I ask you what the point is of how this relates to chimeras?
jordan holmes
What I'm saying is, now I know I don't want a pet fox.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I want a fish person.
dan friesen
They're scared all the time in those tanks.
jordan holmes
I get a tank?
I play with it, I feed it little fish food, or people food, which I, you know.
dan friesen
You've got to assume it's able to speak.
jordan holmes
I grind up freeze-dried steak.
That's what I do, and I pour it in there.
dan friesen
Lest anyone think that we're making fun of something that could be happening.
jordan holmes
Fish people?
Look, if you're offended on behalf of fish people, one, I bet you know some fish people.
And I would like to meet you.
dan friesen
I did some research into this, and all of the information you can find about fish people...
On fish hybrids and stuff, it's all on Infowars.
And it's all unsourced.
There's one link I was able to find to an article in Daily Mail, which is a fucking...
jordan holmes
Oh, yes, yes.
Daily Mail.
dan friesen
Awful, awful.
jordan holmes
Hacking.
dan friesen
Hackers.
jordan holmes
Criminals.
Owned by Rupert goddamn Murdoch.
dan friesen
The article that they linked to was about this guy who was a genetic scientist and...
The article was about how this guy believes that humans were the result of monkeys and pigs fucking.
jordan holmes
Makes sense to me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'll buy it.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Actually, you know what?
I'm gonna give you some more rope to hang yourself with.
dan friesen
I'm not saying this.
That's what he's saying.
jordan holmes
That's the end of your research?
dan friesen
No.
Yes.
Yeah, it is.
Alex Jones used an article that was about...
Chimpanzees and pigs having sex and creating humans as evidence of fish people.
Great.
jordan holmes
Okay!
dan friesen
We're there!
jordan holmes
Also, that is interesting considering that whenever he was on the courthouse steps giving that post-trial interview, he did wind up screaming about chimeras after being asked like...
How do you feel about your kids?
dan friesen
Did you watch that?
jordan holmes
No, I didn't watch it.
I don't have the stomach for this.
And also, that would ruin the whole premise of the show.
dan friesen
I thought I had a busted moment on you.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
You know something about Alex Jones?
jordan holmes
No, I just read in one of the publications that he was very unhappy about chimeras.
dan friesen
One of your false intellectual publications.
jordan holmes
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
The ones that disbelieve chimeras entirely.
dan friesen
So, here's the deal.
That is the kind of stuff we can find, that fish people stuff, is what we can find on any random day of this fucking show.
unidentified
That's right!
jordan holmes
This is why Alex Jones is endlessly fascinating.
dan friesen
He just is.
jordan holmes
Because sometimes, fish people.
dan friesen
Fish people, baby.
It's interesting that you brought up that press conference.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Because that's what we're going to be talking about today.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Well, then there we go.
dan friesen
Alex Jones, on Friday.
Put out a video of one of the fakest looking press conferences I've ever seen in my life.
There were maybe 10 to 12 reporters, I would say.
Maybe 15, if I'm being generous.
It's very sparse.
And he gives a press conference that is ostensibly supposed to be about the case.
And his children and all that.
And quickly deteriorates.
As you mentioned, it does touch on chimeras for a little bit.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
It touches on everything except his kids, basically.
Except they do come up a little bit.
Anyway, I know that...
jordan holmes
Are they...
dan friesen
Fish people.
jordan holmes
Chimeras.
dan friesen
They might be.
Jury's out.
jordan holmes
The jury is not out.
It's in.
They are fish people who should be living with their mother.
dan friesen
Because she has a tank.
jordan holmes
Who has the biggest aquarium?
That's what the trial was really about.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It just took two weeks to measure everything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, in the past, we have said that we are not covering this custody suit, and now we are.
And here's why it changed.
Alex started talking about it.
jordan holmes
There we go.
That means it's entered into our purview.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Everything in his personal life is not fair game for us, and we're still, even as we discuss this, we're not going to talk about his kids, except for in joking ways to say that they're fish people.
jordan holmes
They are fish people.
You heard it here first.
dan friesen
That's satire.
jordan holmes
I'm actually wearing a fish person mask right now.
95% of what I say is true, but when I'm wearing a fish person mask...
dan friesen
You can tell by your voice, too, that you're in fishman mode.
jordan holmes
I'm fishman all the way today.
dan friesen
So, Alex has introduced this into our spectrum of things we can talk about in his personal life, and this case is no longer off-limits.
Congratulations, Alex, you're doing this to yourself.
Here is the beginning.
Here is the beginning.
unidentified
That's our book title right there.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones, you did it to yourself, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, totally.
unidentified
Come on.
dan friesen
Or just...
You busted.
jordan holmes
You busted.
The Alex Jones story.
alex jones
Okay, everybody's got their feeding frenzy going here.
All the fake news media can edit in all their little fake clips and everything to this, but folks watching online will see the truth.
jordan holmes
Not quite drunk yet.
alex jones
A little statement I'm going to make, and then later I'm going to put online some of these documents.
We're going back three years ago.
I didn't file for divorce.
I never tried to take my kids away from my ex-wife.
Four separate times she filed to take them away.
The courts, the guardian items, the system thought it was horrible.
I got to say, actually, the system here in liberal lawson said, this is child abuse.
We're taking your kids away and giving them to you.
And I said, well, I want to be with her mom, too.
She said, no, they're with me and not with you.
jordan holmes
No way is that true.
alex jones
Five separate filings.
Four just in the first three years of it.
We're now over three years into this.
So that's the reality.
I know the media won't get that right.
In fact, this case wasn't even ever about that with the media.
Our closing arguments weren't even covered by the media.
Everything was cherry-picked.
Just like we're showing this live feed right now, we will show what we actually said versus what MSM shows and how it's taken out of context.
And that's why mainstream media is collapsing.
That's why it's dying.
And that's why you guys desperately sit there and say that I'm fake news or I'm an actor when somebody asks if I'm in a movie.
jordan holmes
So how do you feel about the trial, Alex?
alex jones
No, when I'm playing a role in a movie, I'm playing that part.
But when I'm politically speaking for something, I totally believe in it.
I'm not bought and paid for by the big corporations.
I'm not funded by people like George Soros.
I'm funded by my listeners and my viewers.
jordan holmes
So do you miss your kids, Alex?
alex jones
Over $45 million conservatively a week.
dan friesen
So there he is.
He's introducing this and he's already way off track.
So he says these things like, you know, they said that it's abuse and you should have the kids and they came to me.
But there's nothing backing that up.
He's just asserting things.
He's not proving anything.
jordan holmes
Classic Alex.
dan friesen
I went to his website and there's no...
He said he was going to post the documents and stuff like that.
There's nothing posted.
jordan holmes
No documents?
dan friesen
I even searched.
They have a search function on Infowars.com.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Coincidentally, powered by Google.
It specifically says Powered by Google on his website, so I searched for divorce to see if there's some article, anything about any documentation, and there wasn't.
But I would like to read you a list of article titles that come up when you search divorce on Infowars.com.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
dan friesen
The War on Men, Ten Ways Masculinity is Under Attack by Paul Joseph Watson.
Another article.
Leanne McAdoo and Alex Jones respond to dating allegations.
This one's from 2012, this headline.
Trump to reveal Michelle and Barack Obama's divorce papers.
jordan holmes
Did he?
dan friesen
He didn't.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Another one.
jordan holmes
That scared me a little bit for a second there.
dan friesen
From 2012, five years ago.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was like, holy shit, are they divorced?
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
They seem happy.
dan friesen
Another headline.
During the Trump era, will men finally start acting like men again?
unidentified
Hmm.
jordan holmes
A lot more racism is happening, so I guess that kind of counts.
dan friesen
If that's manly.
This one was a headline from 2016.
Trump, quote, I'm considering going after the Clintons' marriage.
Two more headlines.
Why men are abandoning marriage by Paul Joseph Watson.
Spoiler alert, the lead of the article is women aren't women anymore.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
Men aren't men, women aren't women.
That's the end of that.
dan friesen
And then the final one, the final article that I have pulled from this search was photo, Michelle more muscular than the president.
Which, if you count Trump, that's still true.
jordan holmes
So, wait, is that why they got divorced in 2012?
dan friesen
Too muscular.
jordan holmes
Michelle finally beat the shit out of Barack.
That's really what happened.
dan friesen
It must be, yeah.
So, he's off track.
He's not really...
He's not dealing with the...
He's not providing any information.
He's just broadly asserting things and then not following through.
jordan holmes
And none of which are about the trial other than how the news media...
dan friesen
Lies.
unidentified
Lies.
dan friesen
About his trial.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And unfortunately, fair enough.
He actually kind of has the kernel of a good point there in that they did, like, a lot of the reporting on the trial was about how he ate a big bowl of chili and couldn't remember his kid's teacher's name and stuff like that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Which is kind of like, I mean, of course we're going to clown on that.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Of course people are going to make fun of that.
But it didn't...
A lot of the reporting was not substantive, and it was more about, hey, look, Alex Jones is a crazy person, and he's being forced to testify.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And stuff like that.
So he kind of has a fair point, but he goes the wrong direction with that fair point.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And he plays a massive victim game, and it gets really...
jordan holmes
Which is only what the left does.
Although that's fine now, because we know he's a classical liberal.
dan friesen
He's a libertarian.
jordan holmes
A classical liberal, true libertarian victim.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Just like Paul Joseph Watson.
dan friesen
Who's really, really afraid that masculinity is in crisis.
Maybe that means...
jordan holmes
Which kind of suggests that his masculinity is in crisis.
dan friesen
Bingo.
jordan holmes
Right?
Doesn't that make more sense?
dan friesen
Bingo.
jordan holmes
Like, maybe that article should read, 10 reasons why...
Am I gay?
dan friesen
10 reasons why I'm...
unidentified
Am I...
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
dan friesen
I'm scared all the time.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
So this next one, this next clip, and I didn't really cut out anything.
This is just, again, segmented the entire...
I think it's a fake press conference.
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
It smells bad to me.
jordan holmes
It has the wrestling promo feel to it.
dan friesen
It kind of does, because the people who ask questions until the end, the end goes off the rails a little bit.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
But the people who are asking questions are, like, if I were in the press and I was there, I would be...
I'd be going to town on him.
There's so many questions you could ask that would be so hard for him to answer.
And they don't.
It's all very tame questions.
And then on top of that, he's just abusing them.
And no one is like, fuck you!
No one...
jordan holmes
Yeah, but the press isn't really trained for that.
Like, if you go to...
Look, if you're in the White House press briefing and Sean Spicer says a word, everyone in the room should be like, you're fucking lying, you piece of shit!
dan friesen
Only senators are allowed to do that to Barack Obama.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but if that's not because of race.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
Definitely not.
dan friesen
I feel like we gotta get into the shoe-throwing business again.
You know, like...
jordan holmes
Oh, those were good days.
dan friesen
It's been a while since someone's thrown a shoe.
jordan holmes
We gotta throw more shoes.
dan friesen
I totally agree.
jordan holmes
What is the last defense of the unentitled?
unidentified
Shoe.
jordan holmes
Shoe throwing.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
Not rioting.
That's not the voice of the oppressed.
jordan holmes
Uh-uh.
dan friesen
Tossing shoes.
jordan holmes
Tossing shoes.
dan friesen
Anyway, this next clip.
Alex Jones makes a statement and he's reading.
You can tell that because it's kind of an A to B thought.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So you can tell he's reading off a piece of paper and this is a statement.
About how everyone's wrong about what happened.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
In this case.
alex jones
So, here's my basic statement that I wrote on this whole situation.
I want to respond...
jordan holmes
Somebody else wrote it for you.
alex jones
...to the grossly inaccurate media reports that I lost custody of my children.
My ex-wife and I agreed two years ago, the time of our divorce, to be in a joint managing conservative...
Wonderful children.
My ex-wife went to trial asking for her to become the sole managing conservator of our kids and limit me to supervised access and gave no reasons.
But she said the trial I wanted to take kids away is what she put in her filing.
Pretty interesting.
The jury resoundingly rejected her request for sole custody and left us at the same place where we began this horrible journey over three years ago.
This jury agreed we should remain as joint managing conservators, while the only change being who can designate the primary residence, effectively a change of 10 miles.
As only the judge in the trial can decide what amount of time each parent will have with their children, I am confident that the judge will carefully consider the various schedules that have been put in place in the last two years and will give each of us the time that is appropriate.
I have, throughout this ordeal, deferred to the experts in the court to determine that my children schedule with due regard to their own wishes, something that was ignored, their own wishes, to resign with me.
I have and will continue to place my trust in the court to continue to do so, what is the best interest to my children.
dan friesen
So this is the last instance of him being professional throughout the entire episode that we're doing here.
That sounds about right.
unidentified
He did a good job reading that from the chest.
jordan holmes
He really hit a lot of those points.
I don't like the way he said conservator.
dan friesen
But as we sort of butted in throughout, I mean, he was off script at least two times in that minute.
That minute of reading.
But the other thing that is...
jordan holmes
Hey, play gotta play, man.
dan friesen
He's obfuscating like crazy.
He's really muddying the waters because he's like, we have joint custody.
And technically that is true, but she is the conservator or the person who is in charge.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
She is the primary parent now.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Alex having joint custody just means he isn't not allowed to see them.
And they can stay with him.
jordan holmes
Unless she says he's not allowed to see them.
dan friesen
I'm not sure she's actually allowed to do that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But he does, apparently...
jordan holmes
Only God can do that.
dan friesen
Apparently he does have to have supervision on visits and stuff like that, which is a complete inverse of the way it was before.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
She needed to have supervision before.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, the idea that...
He also doesn't seem to understand that juries are sequestered.
Like, he doesn't understand that they're not watching Colbert.
And seeing these portrayals of what's going on.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
They are going based entirely on what's in the courtroom.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And if they go in with one situation being true, that Alex is the main parent and has the right to choose all these things about the kids and blah, blah, blah, where they live, and at the end of it they decide, no, we've got to go the other way, that means that there was something compelling in that courtroom.
jordan holmes
I mean, probably just listening to Alex Jones speak.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
I mean, he said that George Soros is responsible for weed getting good.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, that's crazy.
jordan holmes
No.
That's good parenting.
That's what that is.
dan friesen
He was quoted as saying that he smokes marijuana once a year to gauge how strong it's getting.
jordan holmes
Listen, what is more effective for you in keeping kids from doing drugs?
The D.A.R.E.
program?
dan friesen
Fear of globalists.
jordan holmes
Or fear of globalists?
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
One of those is bullshit, and the other one is about...
Globalists.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Which is what Trump is now.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's the other thing that happened on Friday.
jordan holmes
He's an internationalist and a globalist.
dan friesen
Yep.
That one was real tough.
So Alex wasn't in on Friday, which is understandable.
Drunk.
Probably having a bender.
jordan holmes
Bender.
dan friesen
I think he recorded this video and then probably tied one on.
Oh.
jordan holmes
I'm guessing he's still tying many on.
dan friesen
It was really tough to figure out what was going on inside the head of Paul Joseph Watson, who was hosting.
And then Owen Troyer, because he was doing his live 3 to 5 show.
jordan holmes
Gross.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And both of them were sort of like, Trump said he's a globalist.
What do we do?
It's so fucked up.
jordan holmes
We love him, but we hate globalists.
dan friesen
It's really, really testing this whole premise that they've tried to sell that is like, we have no investment in Trump himself.
Yeah.
unidentified
We just like what he does.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Now that he has said, I'm a nationalist and a globalist.
jordan holmes
They got a turn on him, right?
dan friesen
Remember they were saying...
jordan holmes
But those narratives sucked!
dan friesen
No, they didn't.
They were very compelling.
Alex was claiming that Donald Trump was a 30-year secret patriot.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sleeper cell patriot.
dan friesen
He was a sleeper cell against the globalists.
Now, they have to go back in time and be like, you were fucking wrong this whole time.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
Co-opted.
He was co-opted by the powers that be.
He was brainwashed.
Look, if you think fish people are fine, you can totally be cool with brainwashing.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's fine.
Hell, why not even just start throwing out the Alzheimer's narrative?
dan friesen
It's true.
jordan holmes
Man's got dementia all for days.
dan friesen
Might as well.
jordan holmes
He may be, like, at the very least he has attention deficit disorder.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know, when you listen to Ivanka talk, she is using, like, neuro-linguistic programming tricks.
Like, the way she speaks.
It's the same thing that I was pointing out, and I want to do a more in-depth report on, about John Rapoport.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes.
dan friesen
But there are little speech tricks you can use that are basically, like, suggestions.
You can subliminally suggest things.
And if you're not paying attention, it sounds like a normal sentence.
jordan holmes
So do you think Ivanka is the real president?
dan friesen
She might be.
jordan holmes
Did we actually get our first female president the absolute worst possible way?
dan friesen
It's possible.
It's possible.
jordan holmes
Also, she's evil.
dan friesen
It's also more likely that, you know, we got Kush.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is stronger because of George Soros.
jordan holmes
Wordplay!
dan friesen
So this next clip, and almost all of these clips...
Could be sort of summed up by saying everyone is lying about Alex Jones and he's pissed off about it.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So we're going to get into that here.
alex jones
And I say that quite frankly because I was just blown away by the fact that I had a divorce filed on me.
And then I agreed to have guardian aditems and social workers investigate me and have all this alcohol, drug testing done, even though I've never been in trouble in my life.
And they said, you're a wonderful dad.
jordan holmes
You put a few people in a coma.
alex jones
And then I come back four or five times in court trying to work towards my wife, being 50% of my ex-wife.
And then the media won't even touch on that.
And it turns into some story that I had my kids and I'd taken them and I was this alienator when the literal definition of alienation was engaged in.
You dehumanize me and my children.
You dehumanize yourselves.
That's what this comes down to.
And so all I want is the truth to come out on all of this because I didn't file for divorce.
I didn't trigger this.
The courts, three separate judges and an arbitrator took my children away from my ex-wife and gave them exclusively to me.
I never asked for that.
I want to be with them.
I love them.
But the incredible lies that were put out during this trial with never any evidence was absolutely amazing and mind-boggling.
dan friesen
It's mind-boggling to suggest that in court things don't have proof.
That's why court exists.
It's not a perfect system, but you can't assert things in court that you can't back up.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And if you get caught doing that, you're in contempt of court, evidence gets thrown out, you might do a night.
The pokey for contempt.
jordan holmes
Right.
Or get fined a whole bunch of money if you're rich.
dan friesen
And one of the reasons that I wanted to cover this, even though we've been staying away from the custody situation, was because I think this is, again, highly illustrative of how Alex is fucked in court.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But the propaganda skills that he has, as I argued in our last episode, that even if he gets destroyed by Chobani, it might be a good thing for him.
You can see here he's making an argument that his audience will like.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
It will appeal to them because they're not engaging with the reality of what's going on.
He's really good at that.
He is a propagandist spin artist.
And so when he's out on the street talking to people who I don't really think are actual reporters, it's really easy for him to win.
He can't win in court, but he can win on the street.
He can win in a verbal street fight, as it were.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And that's why it's fucking dangerous to play games with him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Formal education, not really a strong suit.
Street smarts?
As long as chimeras are involved, he's right up on top.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
He's also not very street smart.
jordan holmes
Nobody can handle the mean aquariums quite like Alex Jones.
dan friesen
He's swum with the best of them.
I don't know.
When you talk about his street smarts, you also gotta realize that he's not very good at choosing lawyers.
But be that as it may...
We're going to get to this next clip where Alex plays the victim really hard.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And also we get a guest appearance from a truck.
alex jones
So understand that, ladies and gentlemen.
This is one of the first modern trials where you have corporate establishment mercenary media perched in the...
dan friesen
Here comes that truck.
Love that truck.
jordan holmes
This is one of the first trials that has corporate media and...
dan friesen
Mercenary media.
jordan holmes
Okay.
O.J.?
dan friesen
Any big case?
jordan holmes
Anyone?
dan friesen
Any time a celebrity is on trial?
jordan holmes
Or the fact that there's fucking court TV!
dan friesen
Right, which happened because of O.J., right?
Yeah.
So, I mean, yeah, that's an absurd assertion for him to make, and it's just him trying to give credibility to his victim status.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, here come the truck.
alex jones
Cherry-picking, twisting, and distorting everything.
And that's why it's accelerated the demise of the corporate media.
You guys wonder why you have dwindling audiences, why you don't have support.
unidentified
It's because you deceive people, you lie to people.
alex jones
And I know you've got corporate masters who ordered you to do that.
I know you've got editors that add disinformation to your stories.
But again, that's the bottom line.
Nothing the media got about this was right except one thing.
The media was sitting there watching the case saying it's going absolutely terribly bad for his ex-wife.
But that's because you were actually not using emotion.
You were looking at the facts.
And all the experts who were triggered and called in...
jordan holmes
Hold on, hold on.
Can we pause this right here?
What is he saying?
Are those words related to each other in any way?
dan friesen
No, and there's going to be a lot of that.
jordan holmes
He's scatting.
dan friesen
He's bebopping and scatting all over the place.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
So he's saying that when they...
He's saying that everybody in the media said that it was going bad for his ex-wife?
dan friesen
Yes, and that's the only thing that they got right.
jordan holmes
But did they say that?
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
I don't remember anybody saying things are going bad for his ex-wife.
unidentified
In fact, I remember everyone saying...
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
Things are going real bad for Alex Jones.
dan friesen
For AJ.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Some of the tweets that I saw did indicate that, boy, they are both terrible.
Well, yeah!
There was a sort of feeling...
jordan holmes
One of them is Alex Jones, and one of them looked at Alex Jones and was like, I want to have babies with that.
dan friesen
Three of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, yeah, I think that the only stuff that I saw that would sort of validate that is just like, A, they're both in trouble.
Like, it doesn't look good.
It doesn't look good for either of them.
jordan holmes
The only losers in this situation are the kids.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And that truck.
jordan holmes
And that...
Well, the truck made it in and out.
The truck didn't even hear any of the shit Alex Jones was saying.
dan friesen
The truck drove through.
It was like, oh, Alex Jones, fuck this shit.
unidentified
I'm out.
dan friesen
Driving on.
jordan holmes
It was actually going to drop off all of the hamburgers.
All of his children?
dan friesen
All of his fish children?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Buy my ex-wife.
All of it.
I and my children were the victims of the alienation.
jordan holmes
She is 30% off for Easter special, his ex-wife.
alex jones
We were the victims of a certified program.
jordan holmes
53% off.
unidentified
53% off.
alex jones
To actually pull them away from me forever, where I would never see them again.
Where I would only see them on supervised visits for no reason.
jordan holmes
There are plenty of reasons why you shouldn't be around your kids, Alex.
dan friesen
Right, and then also...
jordan holmes
So many different reasons.
dan friesen
He drops that there, there's no reason, and then earlier he had said that his wife wanted a divorce for no reason, and I mean, I understand that that's what it looks like to you, but you don't really...
care about other people in a meaningful way so you don't understand what they're going through.
jordan holmes
Or human emotions or anything along those lines.
dan friesen
It's tough.
It's tough.
But then also he makes the argument repeatedly throughout this that he is in fact the one who is the victim of alienation.
Yes.
unidentified
Which was a central part of his ex-wife's case.
dan friesen
That he was turning the kids against her.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Which is what he would do.
She divorced him.
She's a globalist.
dan friesen
Sure.
From what I've been able to find from the court coverage, she is right.
It seems like that is the case.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it definitely fits his pattern of behavior.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Now, we don't know a whole lot about her.
Maybe she was turning them against him, too.
I don't know.
But...
Oh, this is fun.
jordan holmes
What's fun?
dan friesen
I was trying to find, like, the court documents, because Alex in this next clip is again going to say that the court documents are public.
jordan holmes
He's going to make them public.
He's going to put them up.
dan friesen
Do you know where they're talking a lot about this divorce?
jordan holmes
Where?
dan friesen
Stormfront.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah!
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't know what Stormfront is.
dan friesen
It's a Nazi website.
jordan holmes
It's a Nazi website!
dan friesen
It's a Nazi message board.
jordan holmes
Oh, thank God!
dan friesen
You know why?
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Because Alex Jones' ex-wife is Jewish.
And there's a lot of people...
jordan holmes
Fuck me.
dan friesen
There's a lot of people in that community who believe that she was like his handler, and because of her, he wouldn't speak out against Israel, even though he knew that Israel was the real problem with the world.
And the reason that they thought that is because globalism is code for Jews.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
It sure is hard to be alive right now.
dan friesen
So a lot of these people on the Stormfront...
jordan holmes
The more I fucking learn about this shit, the more you make me want to die.
dan friesen
Sorry.
jordan holmes
This is your fault.
dan friesen
It is.
It's on me.
unidentified
I'm alienating you.
jordan holmes
I didn't even know Stormfront was real.
Also, they call themselves Stormfront?
dan friesen
Yeah, they're named after a Billy Joel album.
They're not.
unidentified
Stormfront.
dan friesen
It is a Billy Joel album.
jordan holmes
So Nazis are...
They're like, hey, we're basically the stormtroopers that...
Hitler called them.
dan friesen
They're totally open about it.
jordan holmes
They're just full-on Nazis.
dan friesen
So their argument is like, oh great, Alex is finally going to be able to tell the truth that he's been trying to tell for years now that he's out of this situation with his ex-wife.
And then a bunch of the really smart other commenters jump in and they're like, hey guys, don't want to ruin your fun, but his new wife is Jewish too.
Oh, boy.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
It's really fun when, like, hateful bigots are stupid, you know?
jordan holmes
Well, I would argue that hateful bigots are always stupid.
dan friesen
True, true.
jordan holmes
Being a hateful bigot is the quickest sign to knowing that somebody is stupid.
dan friesen
But there are a number of them who are, like, book smart, and that just gets annoying.
jordan holmes
It's not a thing.
dan friesen
Like, Mike Cernovich is a lawyer.
jordan holmes
Mike Cernovich is a monster.
dan friesen
He is.
He's a monster.
jordan holmes
He is a chimera of a man and whatever it is that makes another man evil.
unidentified
Bile?
jordan holmes
Well, he's a man.
He's just a dude.
dan friesen
He's just a dude with bile.
jordan holmes
He's just a dude, yeah.
dan friesen
So I'm going to skip that next clip where he just, again, repeats that you can get these documents because you can't.
And it's just pointless.
But this next clip, he discusses how what's going on is that reality is becoming inversed.
There's just an inversion of reality.
And then he goes on to make a claim that is very reminiscent of Obi-Wan Kenobi.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So you have now bought into the inverse of reality, and it all turns into a big comedy spectacle.
And then you guys spin it and say, well, that's what you do sometimes.
And then, so it's supposedly okay for you to do it, when in truth, I didn't do it.
What you covered was something out of context and another deception.
jordan holmes
That's why InfoWars is exploding.
That's why our support is exploding.
alex jones
That's why we have more visitors and more listeners and more financial support than I had even on election night with 80-plus million viewers and listeners in one week.
So thank you all.
In the last two weeks, your mainstream media deception has only intensified the power of Infowars.
As people across the world see that I'm under attack with attempts to take my children from me, lawsuits, attempts to put me...
Alex, will you be seeing a therapist?
nationalism and freedom and renaissance and true liberalism is awakening again and all the old corporate whore media systems are going to be swept away like a big rain coming in and flooding into the So that's the bottom line, ladies and gentlemen.
jordan holmes
So how often would you like to see your children, Alex?
Globalists.
Okay.
All right, Alex.
dan friesen
He's mum on that topic, but he really wants to make the point that if you strike me down, I will become ten times more powerful.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And, I mean, he's, again, lying about his audience size, just puffing his chest out.
jordan holmes
80 million plus people.
dan friesen
There's no way.
jordan holmes
In one week.
dan friesen
There's literally no way.
jordan holmes
I don't...
No.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No!
That's not possible.
dan friesen
Hey, my man.
My man.
Have you had 80 million people who listen to the show?
You would be flooded with people at that press conference.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
The courthouse would have been...
It would have been Beatlemania in front of that courthouse.
It would have been a hard day's night just being chased down the street by young girls, which I think is what he thinks goes on all the time anyway.
jordan holmes
I actually agree with you there.
dan friesen
So, yeah, you don't have 80 million people who are listening, and you've got to consider that probably half of your audience is fake, and then another quarter...
It's probably people like me who listen and hate you.
So, you know.
jordan holmes
And then there's one more guy.
dan friesen
And there's Assad.
jordan holmes
And then there's Assad, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because Syria is real hot in terms of Alex Jones listenerships.
So, he goes on and he's just combative and abusive to these people who are videotaping his statements.
And in this next clip, he tries to...
This reporter asks, if you hate the press so much...
jordan holmes
Why are you here?
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
A very obvious question to ask.
dan friesen
And, I mean, it's the first question that kicks off a string of Q&As where he does not answer any of the questions.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But this one he kind of answers a little bit and then gets really fucking abusive.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
alex jones
A lot more coming in the near future as we move forward in defense of this republic and in defense of freedom and in defense of the truth.
Infowars.com.
And I want to thank all the viewers and listeners out there.
jordan holmes
53% off.
alex jones
See you in media right here.
All here.
All here to pretend like they're media.
Some of them might be real.
To pretend like they're media.
jordan holmes
Did he just get the game away?
alex jones
Oh, there's Alex Jones, the prop.
Here, let our editors put the normal, you know, little comments in and disinformation and lies about him.
And let's pretend we're reporters.
Let's pretend that we actually went out and did something.
Let's pretend we actually went and interviewed somebody and actually found the truth.
Let's pretend that we're actually real press.
jordan holmes
That's what all this is.
alex jones
So our listeners watching right now can see the folks that are pretending.
Here, go ahead, Buckley.
Sure.
Well, with such disdain for the media, I've sat there watching the media twist and lie about me and my family for weeks.
So, what I'm doing is trolling the media, like I always do, calling you out here so that the real people out there watching can see the truth and understand it so we have a record of what happened to then compare what I said to what you said and what you twisted and what you did.
dan friesen
We're going to get back to the abusive part, but I just want to point out that that's not trolling.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
That's, at best, setting a trap, kind of.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't even call it that.
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
I said it best.
That's the most generous assessment I can do.
jordan holmes
I think what I would call it is getting your name out there.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex is real.
jordan holmes
What is it?
Okay, okay.
So in his mind, the point of this is to...
Hold the media accountable.
Because they can't twist his words since his words are now on their shows.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And if they don't quote him accurately, then we can always go back to the tape and he can be like, see, this is what I said, not what you said I said.
I said this, and then you said I said this, but I didn't say that.
I said this.
dan friesen
He's now said that he's only going to do interviews that are live.
Or that he's going to himself fully record all of them.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So nobody can cut and paste his words and take him out of context.
dan friesen
We don't need to take him out of context.
This is episode like 40 of this show.
All we do is take him in context and he's awful.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex, you don't want people taking you in context.
unidentified
You kind of don't want people actually listening to you.
dan friesen
Right, right.
And that's going to be a big problem for him because people aren't going to go away now.
jordan holmes
No, now they're listening.
And now that he's got one...
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He's going to be hit.
dan friesen
He's humbled in court.
He's trying to argue that he's not.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it's just going to roll downhill from here.
It's going to be a disaster.
But here we go.
Let's get to the little bit of abuse here.
alex jones
So, you're not even real media, you see.
It's the process of groveling to the corporate systems to sit there and try to get them to give you some funding that if you're a good little deceptive person, they'll somehow give you more jobs or more money.
So that's all this really is.
I mean, any real questions?
dan friesen
That's a dick, dick kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Any real questions?
Wait, that was a very legitimate question.
dan friesen
Any real questions?
Oh, yeah, the original question was very real.
jordan holmes
Well, and also that one was a very legitimate question, too.
I think he genuinely does not know if they are real or not.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
So perhaps he is asking, are any of you not projections of my brain right now?
dan friesen
Again, he lives in a world that's very close to solipsism.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Very close to...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I will take a question from the unicorn man in the back.
dan friesen
The yokai mera.
jordan holmes
Alex, there is no unicorn man.
dan friesen
There are always unicorn men.
So, here we go.
Alex did the wrong thing there by opening up the floor to questions, because now people start asking him some questions, and he's not good at answering questions.
jordan holmes
He responds to them, and he, you know.
He's very expressive and he makes sure that they feel welcome.
dan friesen
We have five questions.
Four if you consider that one of them is asked twice because he doesn't answer it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So here we go.
This first one, if you can't hear it, I'll just tell you what the question the reporter asks is.
What do you tell your kids?
unidentified
This is a very public...
alex jones
Absolutely.
That's a great question.
What do I say to my children, who I never in three years brought into this, who I never made public?
I never called the media to come here.
jordan holmes
I was never involved in any of this.
alex jones
It was other people that called the little vampires in to be all part of this in the attempt to sit there and point their finger and go, there's the bad man.
There's the bad man.
Let's shut him down.
Let's put words in his mouth.
I mean, my children know that the corporate media lies, and they go to school and they hear about this, and they know the truth, and they say, why does the media say that?
Why does the media say this?
And I explain, they're not the media.
They're the people that, with the corporate globalists, helped hijack this country, and they're being torn out of control now.
They're being removed like a tick off a dog's rear end, being torn off this country, and they realize that as parasites, as little followers, as conformists, posing as trendies, I would argue that that's bad parenting.
jordan holmes
So, what do you tell your kids?
And he tells them...
That the corporate media lies.
dan friesen
Yes, they're all.
jordan holmes
And they're like, no, what about, like, do we get to see you more often?
He's like, they're all little vampires.
dan friesen
Globalists.
jordan holmes
No, like, are you still going to pick us up from school or anything?
They're like, the media is lying to you.
You know the truth.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
53% off.
dan friesen
Bones.
unidentified
Bone broth.
jordan holmes
Now drink your bone broth.
And go the fuck to bed!
dan friesen
Like, that legitimately, I mean, you hit the nail right on the head.
The question is, what do you tell them about the current situation that you're in?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And what's going to happen to them as having to move to their mom's house and shit like that?
And he's like, obviously this question is about globalists.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
I tell them that I'm totally right.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Of course I tell them I'm totally right and everyone's out to get me.
Of course.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because that's the truth.
jordan holmes
Alex, have you ever told your kids that you are not totally right?
dan friesen
Hey, listen up.
I want to tell you guys about Hamid Ulukiya.
jordan holmes
So are we going to live with mom now?
dan friesen
Ah, boy.
You know, this yogurt maker thinks he's a fucking asshole kind of guy.
This piece of shit.
Fill your hand, Hamid.
jordan holmes
So, like...
If you have to have supervision when you see us, are you going to bring your mom?
dan friesen
I always tell my kids to fill their hand.
You're going to take a bath or it's time to fill your hand.
jordan holmes
Dad, are you even talking to us anymore?
dan friesen
Who are you?
So, in this next clip, I realize I subconsciously there got off on a Hamdi Ulukaya rant.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Or at least he came into my sphere in my mind, and that is because the next question is about the Chobani lawsuit.
unidentified
Do you anticipate more lawsuits coming at you after the Chobani situation?
alex jones
Good question!
I've talked to four lawyers about the Chobani lawsuit.
They say it's totally frivolous, an absolute complete PR stunt.
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
And I was on the phone with my D.C. lawyers and my Idaho lawyers today, and we were thinking about an aggressive corporate strategy to actually go after the New York Federal Reserve that he's a board member of, and the school lunch program that he's part of, and these other loans.
jordan holmes
What?
No, he's not part of those things.
Your lawyers are going after things that aren't real.
dan friesen
I think he is involved with some school lunch stuff.
I think he does have some slight contract with that, but no, he's not on the New York Federal Reserve.
jordan holmes
No, we've already covered that.
dan friesen
I don't think he's talked to lawyers.
I think he's making that up.
I think that he's just being blustery.
Because I can't imagine a lawyer talking to him about it and them being like, oh yeah.
Yeah, let's not look into whether this is true or not.
Let's just act like it is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
No lawyer would do that because they'd get...
Disbarred.
jordan holmes
Let's not say no lawyer would do that.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
Let's say if you're a friend of Alex Jones and you're also a lawyer, like, say, some other right-wing propagandist, you might be giving him bad advice because you also don't believe in reality.
dan friesen
Mike Cernovich is a lawyer, so it's possible that the two of them have had conversations and that's what he's saying.
I've talked to my lawyers and it's a solid case.
He's probably just talked to Cernovich.
unidentified
Yeah, which...
jordan holmes
How can you be a lawyer?
Although that is a really good question.
dan friesen
How can you be a lawyer?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
That's not a great question.
jordan holmes
That's not a great question.
You're right.
Well, actually, the answer to that is globalists.
Sure.
No, when you see the lawyers in court defending the travel ban and all of that stuff that's so blatantly unconstitutional, you don't have to have a law degree.
You have to be able to read to tell that you shouldn't be doing that.
So those lawyers are doing it just for the money.
They're getting paid to do it, so they're going to give it their best go.
So if you're Alex Jones' lawyer, you are not going to tell him, hey, this is bad for you.
Because then, he is going to fire you.
dan friesen
That's a good point.
jordan holmes
So what you're going to tell him is whatever it is he needs to hear, so he will continue writing those checks for you.
dan friesen
And he, at this point, is almost a dream client.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely!
dan friesen
You're going to get so much work, so much billings.
jordan holmes
Hours and hours of it.
dan friesen
I can't imagine.
jordan holmes
And even then, you don't even have to give him advice, because he's not going to listen to it anyways.
dan friesen
No, he's just going to talk.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
And the strategy would just be, okay, if we do go to court about this, you don't say shit, Alex.
In court, you shut your mouth.
jordan holmes
That is, again, going to get that lawyer fired.
dan friesen
Right, but Alex Jones talking in the court is going to lose them the case.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Because he's going to spin this crazy yarn that is not true at all.
He's going to reference Breitbart articles.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then we're going to take down the Fed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
What the fuck?
jordan holmes
Isn't that going to be a delight?
dan friesen
Yeah.
That is why Core TV should exist.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, we shouldn't get rid of it.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
If this case happens, I might take a week off work.
I have to watch.
jordan holmes
Try and get press.
unidentified
Try and get press credentials to get into the trial.
dan friesen
Oh my god, that would be the best.
jordan holmes
That would be amazing.
dan friesen
We could go broadcast live.
jordan holmes
I don't think they would allow us to do that.
dan friesen
Well, not in the courtroom.
But I mean in the evenings.
jordan holmes
That would be great.
If we're courtside reporters like in a basketball game.
dan friesen
Doing play-by-play.
jordan holmes
Just you and me doing play-by-play.
dan friesen
Ooh, Alex took a harsh fall on that one.
Did not answer the question.
Alright, so we're back to this.
He has more to say, but we had to cut in there because, you know.
jordan holmes
Because that was ludicrous.
dan friesen
Alex is stupid.
alex jones
...and deals he's got going that are monopolistic.
My lawyers also dealt with some of the suits that were on the Boston Herald when they found the Saudi money going to the local group.
That got shut down and everything got paid back.
So yeah, I've got those lawyers right now.
They're all handling that.
So we're looking at counter lawsuits because we reported on news about the reporting sexual assault that the media said didn't happen, but they've now pled guilty for.
Then they argue, well, that's not connected to the yogurt maker.
No, just the owner.
Who pushes for refugees to be brought in with George Soros and George Soros' founded law firm that's suing me.
So technically I'm not saying the owner of it himself.
jordan holmes
So do you still want custody of your children?
alex jones
The point is they're being brought in unvetted.
So we covered other people's reports.
And then they sit there and play games, little factoid parts of it.
So we're very, very confident with that.
And what happens is when we get attacked, the listenership and support just goes up exponentially.
So attacks go up to here, support goes up to there.
And then attacks go up to here, support goes up to those trees.
And then support goes up and it just goes up and up and up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we get how an infinite cycle works.
alex jones
So that's what's happening is people get it.
They understand it's a war.
They understand it's a fight.
They understand what's going on with the corporate media, and they absolutely love it.
So we understand the democratic strategy.
jordan holmes
Everybody loves what's going on right now.
Very few people are bummed out.
alex jones
There's all sorts of slap statues in Texas.
jordan holmes
You know, his kids are.
alex jones
And a lot of really serious issues.
We're looking forward to discovery on Shabani, and we're looking really, really forward to looking into Turkey, the Kurds, and the funding of the operation.
We've also got our intel sources on that.
jordan holmes
Perfect sense.
Yep.
We're looking forward into learning about Chobani.
dan friesen
We're going to sue the Kurds?
jordan holmes
So naturally, that follows that we're also going to defeat Turkey.
dan friesen
Do you think that he's upset about the Kurds because of the pasteurization process of cheese, Kurds?
jordan holmes
That could be it.
Do you think that's the disconnect?
Do you know what's in Kurds?
dan friesen
What's that?
Globalists?
Globalism.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, Hamdi Ulukaya has given a lot of money to the Kurds and Kurdistan.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because of all of that, they're murder.
dan friesen
Right, and that's, I think, what Alex is drawing a lot to.
I will say it's actually kind of smart of him to do a countersuit, because as I said, if he's going in for this defamation lawsuit, he can't introduce all this crazy shit.
It's outside the scope of the...
unidentified
That's true.
dan friesen
It's totally irrelevant.
jordan holmes
So he has to pull out his countersuit in order to muddy that down with, hey guys, turkey.
dan friesen
Soros.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
All this shit.
Yeah, absolutely.
He could introduce that in a different case, but not in the one that's being brought against him.
So that's, like I said, it's cunning.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
It's not smart, because he's going to lose that case, too.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
But if he gets that, doesn't his lawyer get to charge him extra money?
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So the next question in this...
jordan holmes
God, how bad do you want to be Alex Jones' lawyer right now?
dan friesen
Oh, so...
jordan holmes
You don't even have to work, because you already know the case is over.
Like, you write up a...
Bad book report.
dan friesen
Basically, yeah.
jordan holmes
And then you're like, hey, Judge, your honor, Alex over here, watch out for turkey.
dan friesen
And you know what?
If you are that lawyer, fuck it.
Let Alex on the stand.
You know, if you are that checked out, you're just like, who cares?
jordan holmes
Because that's all Alex really wants to do.
Now that Alex wants to be on the stand all the time now.
dan friesen
It's got to be exciting.
jordan holmes
He has got his, like, Mr. Smith goes to Washington boner all up in arms.
dan friesen
He's been preparing for it for, like, 20 years, basically.
I think we're, like, he's so slippery that making predictions about him is very difficult.
But it feels like we've entered the third act of this play.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It really feels like this.
When we started this podcast in January, just...
Four months ago?
jordan holmes
That was just four months ago?
Is Trump still president?
What is happening?
dan friesen
But when we started it, it was like, well, he's a hateful dude and we're just going to document him and make fun of him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we got it right on the ground floor of this insanity.
dan friesen
We accidentally are documenting his decline.
This is what this podcast is going to turn into.
It's just like, this fucking guy, he's done.
He's ruining his own career.
jordan holmes
I would compare this to, let's go with...
Let's go with Hamlet.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Now, I assume...
I haven't finished the play yet.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Does it end well?
dan friesen
I think it ends okay.
jordan holmes
Does Hamlet just win?
He becomes king, and everybody's like, whoa, check out this Hamlet guy, and he's beloved.
dan friesen
There's a deus ex machina.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Either that or it's the prequel to Beauty and the Beast, right?
That's what we're dealing with.
We're dealing with one or the other.
dan friesen
Hamlet turns into Gaston.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's rough.
That's a...
That's a step down.
dan friesen
He's got a good jaw.
Anyway, at this point, it's just like, I understand that the question was about Chobani and what have you, but he could have just said, yeah, we're working on that, but what we're here to talk about today is my children.
jordan holmes
But that's the opposite.
What we're here to talk about today, what Alex Jones is here to talk about today is...
Any possible subject that he lost this trial.
dan friesen
And he has to claim that he didn't, basically.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Anyway, this next question.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't be shocked if somehow he tries to make it so that in the Chobani lawsuit, they also have to give him custody of his kids back.
dan friesen
Well, he was saying that they're trying to take my kids away.
Globalists aren't doing that.
That's not globalists.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's the Jews!
dan friesen
A single Jew who happens to be his ex-wife.
Stormfront, really full of a lot of really intelligent critiques.
unidentified
Ugh!
dan friesen
I hate that place.
Anyway, this next question is back...
jordan holmes
Hope you die, guys.
dan friesen
This is back on topic a little bit.
This is a question that comes in, and they're trying to ask him what the status of the custody is.
Like, what is the situation between, like...
Are you going to get to have the kids on weekends?
What's the deal?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And you'll see how well he sticks to the topic.
unidentified
What is the exact decision of the court regarding custody?
alex jones
Technically, we already had joint custody.
jordan holmes
So what was the exact decision of the judge, Alex?
The exact decision of the judge.
dan friesen
Technically, we already had joint custody.
jordan holmes
No, I'm asking.
A different question.
dan friesen
It's also not true.
jordan holmes
What's the exact...
dan friesen
Right, right.
He's not answering the question.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Ex-wife had sought sole and supervised visits.
Okay?
So that was in the original filing.
And so because that happened, I was always just trying to get joints of the courts.
When we had a divorce in 2005, said we had joint.
But then the courts came in and said...
jordan holmes
Soros gave you a joint.
alex jones
Because of some of the issues and the fact that she went off to a treatment center in Arizona.
Which, you know, came into the trial.
Didn't seem to matter.
The news never reported it.
And other stuff I won't even get into.
dan friesen
I would argue that's a real laugh.
alex jones
Had nothing to do with it.
She was gone for five weeks.
And then it just turns into this whole fantasy land with mainstream media.
And so the courts and the judges and the social workers and the guardian items that she'd triggered that she brought in on me I just said sure I don't deny You know test my blood, you know, whatever everything there.
Yeah, you're great.
Come watch me my house Wow, you're a really great guy.
Well, we don't like how you were on the air, but you're really cool guy 14 different PhDs experts psychiatrists all upset man doing home studies.
You name it.
You're a really great guy Except for the one who called you a narcissist?
jordan holmes
With narcissistic personality disorder?
alex jones
Get a relationship back, saying, here, let's be 50-50.
Kids need their mother.
And then there's the news stories that I am alienating children.
Total, complete lie.
dan friesen
So, he didn't answer the question at all.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
He just ranted about what he perceived the past situation since their divorce, which he said was in 2005, and I think he meant 2015.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but let's not quibble with him on that.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
His understanding of time is suspect at best.
dan friesen
Well, because if that was the case, then, like, He would have had to have those other kids with her after they were divorced or some shit.
jordan holmes
That was a slip of the tongue.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's fair.
jordan holmes
Or he's a time traveler.
dan friesen
But, as we've already documented, he is not willing to give the benefit of the doubt to, let's say, Maxine Waters or Nancy Pelosi when they have a slip of the tongue.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
So it's only fair that we're like, hey, Alex, you fucking think you got divorced in 2005?
What a fucking idiot.
What planet is he living on?
It's the exact same thing he would do to these...
These female politicians.
jordan holmes
And that is something that I don't think he would be able to answer the question.
dan friesen
No, he would definitely dance around a bunch.
jordan holmes
What planet do you live on, Alex?
Well, you know, the mainstream media reports that this planet is flat, and I've never said that.
I know they've been lying about this.
The word global suggests that there is a ground circle, right?
dan friesen
Certainly.
jordan holmes
That's how that works.
And so the planet that I live on, I mean, we can go through the entire solar system like we got this.
Right.
alex jones
And then we got the first one.
jordan holmes
And then we got Venus, which is a lady.
I don't know if you've ever met that.
You know, you meet her and she was in Rome for a while.
And then we got the third one and then we live on one of them.
So I live on that one.
dan friesen
Some people call it Earth.
I prefer to call it Gaia.
So, you might have noticed that he didn't answer that question.
jordan holmes
No, he did not.
dan friesen
So, thankfully, the reporter who's there gives a little rebuttal and wants to try, give another shot.
jordan holmes
Give it another go?
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's our next entry in this Q&A session.
unidentified
Where are we at here?
Is it joint, or do you have total custody?
alex jones
No, no, I had total custody, but it was under joint.
I'm not a lawyer.
We had joint, but I was the main conservator.
unidentified
You were the main conservator.
alex jones
Yes, and then now she's joint with...
Where their main house is listed, but it's all up to the judge, who, by the way, is one of the most thorough judges I've ever seen.
Amazing how she keeps everything.
I mean, I don't want to say she's perfect, but I was pretty amazed by how she had a lot of fair rulings.
dan friesen
That's code.
jordan holmes
Meaning she kept out a lot of the horrible shit that he said on Infowars that otherwise would have gotten him barred from seeing his kids ever again, and perhaps barred from seeing any of us ever again.
dan friesen
I think that the judge was correct in this, but what he is referring to is that she refused to let anything play that had any political content because she didn't want to bias the jury against him.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So there was a video.
jordan holmes
Or for him.
dan friesen
Right, right, too.
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
I mean, we are still in Texas.
dan friesen
That's true, but it's liberal Austin.
jordan holmes
Right, but who knows?
dan friesen
There was a video that the ex-wife tried to enter into evidence, and it was a video of him and his son throwing darts at Hillary Clinton's face on a dartboard.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And she was trying to demonstrate that this is, like, bad parenting, and I tend to agree with that, but she didn't allow that video to be played because if someone was a Hillary supporter...
It would unfavorably bias them against it.
And if you were anti-Hillary, it would bias you in favor of it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So I think that's right, but that's what he's saying.
Also, like a lot of these other videos where he's drunk and shit like that, she didn't let them play, really.
Or at least not the extent of them that we might think is relevant.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So, sure, that's what he's trying to say.
But again, not answering the question.
I'm going to not answer it for another minute.
alex jones
Basically, until she rules in the next few months on what this jury did, she is still exactly like the custodial parent.
So all this is is the jury...
Told folks.
They wish there was like a third or fourth choice.
They just wanted to give moms some more time.
And I totally get that.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
It seems reasonable.
unidentified
They wish there was a third or fourth choice?
alex jones
It's just that she never went through the steps that were put in by the social workers and the PhDs that she called in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we wanted Pat Robertson to have custody of each other.
unidentified
She called them in.
alex jones
And then the reason there were like 34 of them is she would get rid of each group of them because they wouldn't say what she wanted.
And then she would get a new group.
They'd go, okay, here's a new group.
I don't like this judge.
The judge would say, okay, I'm stepping down.
New judge.
Next judge will look at the information, do the exact same thing.
dan friesen
That's not how judges look.
alex jones
So it's over and over again the same story.
And look, I care about my ex-wife.
You know, mental illness is a very, very serious thing when it's, you know, the type of situations she's been diagnosed with.
And look, none of us are perfect.
jordan holmes
Oh, you punk bitch.
alex jones
The bottom line is it's about my children.
It's not about what I say or what I do.
unidentified
You passive-aggressive little girl.
alex jones
It's what I stand for.
It's like I saw Stephen Colbert like two months ago.
Play this clip off YouTube.
Tiny little clip.
They had it shrunk down.
dan friesen
I can probably recite what he's about to say verbatim.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There was a clip of me, and it had me saying, I'm anti-gay.
And they took out the not.
I'm not anti-gay.
Hey, they're probably going to cut me out saying this here.
He says that every single time that this Colbert thing is brought up.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
He hits the, I'm not anti-gay.
They cut out not.
It says, I'm anti-gay.
And then he...
Sort of gets retrospective, introspective, whatever, and he says, they're going to cut out me saying I'm anti-gay here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, they're going to do it again.
dan friesen
It's just a bit.
jordan holmes
It's a bit of his.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's like Adam Carolla ranting about left turn signals.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Shit like that.
So, yeah, I mean, come on.
You're just doing bad material here, Alex.
jordan holmes
Poor bastard.
dan friesen
No one cares.
jordan holmes
He's got to write a new five.
dan friesen
Also, that doesn't answer anything.
He answered at the beginning.
Right.
But he's lying.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The guy keeps asking, so she's the main conservator?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Basically, technically, judge is going to say some shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's doing everything to deny the ruling.
jordan holmes
Right.
Now, here's my question, and maybe this is beyond what we have any access to.
He's acting like this is a loss.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Not really.
I mean, in his way.
Wherein he's doing everything possible to avoid talking about it.
dan friesen
Oh, I get it.
I get what you mean.
He's acting like it's a loss because he's acting like it's not a loss.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
And in Alex Jones' world, that usually means...
jordan holmes
It's the inverse of reality.
Right.
dan friesen
Like, he's probably going to come out and say it's great that Trump said he's a globalist.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's opposite day every day for him.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
But is this actually a loss for him?
dan friesen
No, probably not.
jordan holmes
Like, does he actually...
Like, I don't want to seem...
dan friesen
I think it's a big win.
jordan holmes
I don't want to seem like I understand somebody with narcissistic personality disorder.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
But I don't think he actually cares.
dan friesen
It doesn't seem like it from his words here.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that could be partially like he might be in denial.
It's possible that he really does care, but he really actually believes that the verdict wasn't against him or something like that.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
He could believe that.
That could possibly justify all this.
Based on what we know of him and the exploration we've done over the last months, I think it's far more likely that his affect being really flat about the kids and him skipping off into anti-globalist topics all the way through this video, it indicates to me that you're right.
I don't think he cares that much.
And now he's going to save money on nannies.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's going to have a narrative that they took my children away.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he has way less responsibilities.
jordan holmes
Other possibility.
Maybe only now that he can't see his kids whenever he wants to, will he actually care about them.
unidentified
You don't know what you got until it's gone.
jordan holmes
Not because of his...
dan friesen
That's going to be his bumper music tomorrow.
jordan holmes
I bet.
I bet it is.
That would not surprise me at all.
dan friesen
Or tears in heaven or something like that.
Anyway, sorry.
jordan holmes
No, now that he can't see his kids, now it seems like is the time where he would fight even harder to get them.
dan friesen
I think he would fight even harder in the court of public opinion, but I don't think he would fight in court.
Because again, as we discussed earlier, he can't win in court generally.
He can only win in propaganda.
So he'll act like he's really trying hard to get his kids back.
I'm fighting because I love my family.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
All this stuff when in reality he's not doing shit.
jordan holmes
But again, if you're his lawyer, goddammit.
unidentified
Payday.
jordan holmes
Goddammit, if you don't tell him, no, I think we can keep this going.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, let's appeal.
jordan holmes
Let's appeal.
Let's get this one.
dan friesen
Hey, Gorsuch is on the Supreme Court.
Let's take it all the way.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can you take a custody case to the Supreme Court?
dan friesen
Set precedent that if you're a propagandist, do you keep your kids?
jordan holmes
If you're Alex Jones, it's fine.
dan friesen
So there's one more question in this block of Q&A, and this person is trying to ask how often he will get his kids.
jordan holmes
Very good question.
dan friesen
It's very relevant to the matter at hand.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good question.
alex jones
That's up to the judge.
unidentified
So the kids reside with the mother at this point?
alex jones
No, they're with me.
unidentified
They're with you?
alex jones
Yes.
It's up to the judge.
unidentified
Do you know what the timeline is for the judge?
alex jones
That's the thing.
No, I don't.
Months, probably.
But the point is that this judge...
That's all determined by the judge.
unidentified
So for now, until that decision happens, you have the kids and that's it?
alex jones
Well, she sees them a couple times a week and overnights and all that.
jordan holmes
Does she?
alex jones
I feel like she does.
unidentified
It's just divorce stuff.
alex jones
You know, people sit there and make fun of what I cover and what I do and say, oh, Alex Jones doesn't have any listeners or any viewers.
He's this outlier.
But then everything I do gets covered.
Because they know the truth.
We have up to 80 million viewers a week, always about 45 million.
That's big.
That's double the size of Rush Limbaugh.
That's bigger than most Fox News shows throughout a whole week.
dan friesen
What does this have to do with your kids?
alex jones
That's why there's so much demonization.
That's why there's so many attacks.
That's why there's so many misrepresentations.
dan friesen
Oh, I guess that's why.
alex jones
Because that's what the media is.
But it's a complex issue.
And I would just, you know, ask folks to just...
Wait and see what the ruling of the judge is.
jordan holmes
It's a complex issue, so you know you're going to get down into it.
unidentified
You're going to get into the nitty-gritty details of the whole thing.
dan friesen
He's a long.
alex jones
He's a lock.
And I get people are scared of Donald Trump.
dan friesen
What?
alex jones
Whoa!
It's like fun to then kind of pick some low-hanging fruit, like myself, and kind of make that the piñata.
jordan holmes
You know, low-hanging fruit with 45 million listeners.
Low-hanging fruit.
alex jones
I'm critical of both political parties.
That's really another manufactured mainstream media thing.
I'm very happy about Trump on some issues, like trying to get our jobs back to America.
I think it's terrible that Trump is talking about indicting Assange, who he said, if you've got more stuff, give it to me.
Trump said, if you've got more WikiLeaks, give it to me, WikiLeaks.
I mean, that's totally wrong.
jordan holmes
So will you get weekend visits?
alex jones
Media won't pick up on that.
dan friesen
Also, he didn't say that to Assange.
He said that to Russia.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
Donald Trump, in live TV, asked Russia to provide those emails, not Julian Assange, which means that either Alex is stupid and doesn't know the difference, or, because he's friends with Roger Stone, he does know that WikiLeaks is a front for Russia.
So, it's one of those two things.
Either you're stupid, or you have access to information that we all very clearly suspect.
jordan holmes
That is all but 100% proven at this point.
dan friesen
And you just let slip on this.
I think that it's possible that was a slip.
Saying Julian Assange instead of Russia when he's talking about Trump asking for the emails.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I mean, all of this is nonsensical and magical thinking, so who knows what is or is not a slip or what is or is not something that he believes?
dan friesen
Who knows what nonsense lies in the throats of men?
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That was very poetic.
dan friesen
Thank you.
So, this next clip.
jordan holmes
Will Shakespeare.
dan friesen
This next clip is real poetic as well.
Alex Jones declares himself a libertarian.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
And then things go south.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
You're going to see what he brings up as sort of evidence of his libertarian credentials.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And you're going to love it.
jordan holmes
And that would be his custody?
Nope.
Oh, no, we're gone?
dan friesen
Nope, that has nothing to do with this.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Dude, I'm not a Republican.
I'm not a Democrat.
I'm a libertarian.
Take human animal chimeras.
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
They have jokes all over TV saying, Jones thinks they're crossing humans with pigs and cows.
Well, 20 years ago, they were crossing humans and animals and growing them in utero for body parts.
That's mainstream scientific journals.
jordan holmes
That's what Nirvana's album was about.
Everybody knows this.
unidentified
This is reported in the white paper.
alex jones
But still, people are preconditioned to make the joke that it doesn't exist.
Like Harvard saying fluoride lowers your IQ after just two years.
1.6 parts per million by at least 10 points, 12 points, 15 points.
jordan holmes
100 points!
alex jones
A million points!
It's all just funny because people are followers and it makes them feel powerful to just laugh and stuff.
I mean, here, let's talk to this camera guy right here.
Because when I was talking about human-animal chimeras, he was laughing.
Do you not believe human-animal chimeras exist?
jordan holmes
Couldn't say one way or another.
alex jones
Couldn't say one way or another.
See, that's the smart thing.
Like 1984...
Spider goats, all of it.
Spider goats?
Oh, look, spider goats.
Do you have any idea how dangerous all these human animal chimeras are?
Do you have any idea of the super viruses and the mutations that it's creating?
Cancer is way up, allergies are way up.
This will affect your kids, man.
This isn't funny.
I've had top scientists thought about this.
I mean, 20 years ago, they had rhesus monkeys you could buy in Hong Kong bazaars that glow in the dark that are part jellyfish.
Think that's funny?
They have horrible lives.
It's incredibly painful for them.
Colbert will probably play that because monkeys in medical experiments is funny.
It's funny that I'm upset about that.
It's funny.
It's something good to laugh at.
It's fun to be ignorant and just be a trendy.
It's fun to laugh at Alex Jones.
It's fun.
dan friesen
It is very fun.
jordan holmes
It's fun!
dan friesen
Dude, you've got to prove these things.
Like, you can't...
It just doesn't work to just say...
I mean...
Look, spider goats is a real thing.
They do have that spider silk, whatever, that is introduced genetically into goats to create.
jordan holmes
Well, and they have combined jellyfish DNA to get glowing shit.
dan friesen
Or glowing tobacco.
There's those tobacco plants that can glow and stuff like that.
It's pretty interesting in a lot of ways.
But when you're trying to bridge that into...
Fish people who have terrified human faces and stuff like that.
You gotta do your work.
You gotta prove it.
You can't just have an unnamed source that told you about this.
That doesn't fly.
That's why people make fun of you.
Because this shit is not real and you're a clown.
And why are you talking about this?
jordan holmes
Why are we talking about chimeras right now?
dan friesen
Because he's a libertarian.
jordan holmes
Oh.
Well, then, yeah, I retract my question.
dan friesen
Doesn't that track well?
jordan holmes
Perfectly makes sense.
dan friesen
I'm a libertarian.
jordan holmes
I'm a libertarian.
dan friesen
Take human-animal hybrids.
I didn't cut anything out that, like, makes that make sense.
It's just, I'm a libertarian.
Oh, that reminds me.
I meant to talk about chimeras.
I've started to realize.
jordan holmes
That's the updated cat skills.
Take my fish, people.
unidentified
Please!
dan friesen
I'm starting to realize that I think he probably talks about chimeras way more than I realized.
jordan holmes
He's talking about chimeras an awful lot.
dan friesen
Well, we got that clip from February 1st, 2016.
We got this.
unidentified
We've talked about chimeras many times.
Why is he so concerned about chimeras?
dan friesen
Well, there is one actually interesting.
jordan holmes
Because they're not Americana.
dan friesen
No, but there's one interesting thing that I kind of think...
I mean, I don't believe that what he's saying is happening.
But if it were happening, one thing that he brings up is the idea of different diseases being introduced through that.
We could get animal diseases that we could then become susceptible to.
Or we could just create diseases out of whole cloth.
I'm not even sure if that's possible.
But be that as it may, the idea that we could suffer some medical loss because of it?
Alright.
I'm listening to that.
You gotta prove that shit's going on first.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but, you know, that seems like an endlessly complicated thing when we already have weaponized smallpox.
dan friesen
That's a fair point.
jordan holmes
Like, why about, hey, we need to get chimeras so we can get diseases.
Couldn't you just weaponize regular diseases?
dan friesen
Well, let me be clear.
I think that that...
jordan holmes
Do you think it's going to be accidental, like...
Man shouldn't play God diseases that he's talking about?
dan friesen
Yes, that's I think more.
It's not like trying to develop diseases.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But you're right.
There's way more things we need to be worried about.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Even if chimeras are real, which, that'd be...
Kind of cool.
I'm in on it.
I'm all in on science.
Like, I don't give a shit.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Let's find out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, they were, oh, what's the ethics of cloning?
Fuck it.
Let's clone shit.
I don't know.
We'll figure it out later.
I don't give a shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, you can't really know if something's really wrong until you do that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Look, I know we shouldn't test cosmetics on animals.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Because that's a bummer.
dan friesen
Very much so.
jordan holmes
I saw a movie about it one time.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
But...
I've never seen a human-animal hybrid before.
How do I know it's bad?
Why don't we test cosmetics on them?
dan friesen
Why not?
They don't have rights.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
You know what?
Here's the thing.
As you were going off on that, I started to realize what it is that makes Alex Jones very awful in court.
And then it's because there's a burden of proof.
And he can't prove things.
So, like, in the case of this fish people with terrified human faces, if you were to try and make that claim in court, he can't prove it.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
He's fucked.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
On the street, he doesn't need to prove it.
He just needs to assert things.
I hate him.
jordan holmes
Anyway.
It's a very matter-of-fact.
dan friesen
In this next clip, first of all, they get told they need to move.
I cut that part out.
jordan holmes
They get told they need to move?
dan friesen
It's just them milling around and it goes on for like two minutes.
jordan holmes
It's just some dude, just some bailiff walks out and he's like, hey, come on, guys.
dan friesen
Well, not even that.
jordan holmes
He's just like, hey, we need to make- We got a 1940 stickball game that needs to be played out here on these streets.
dan friesen
He's like, we just need to have room so people can get through.
That's all.
We're not trying to kick you out.
Just make room.
And so they shuffle about and then Alex, as they come back, as they reconvene, Alex gets his lawyer to come over and say a few words.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck yes!
dan friesen
Which is not advised.
alex jones
Randall Wilhite, my great lawyer, is named from a family law book here in Texas.
He's never seen a trial like this in his 30-something years.
Randy, get over here and talk to the folks about the whole state of the union right now.
jordan holmes
State of the union?
dan friesen
The family union.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
I want to give a little bit of also a warning.
Randall Wilhite has awful mic technique.
So this is very low.
It's very low.
I might have to boost the audio.
unidentified
Well, I'm not sure about the state of the unit, but I had a great opportunity to represent his man for the last three years.
We've been in a lot of battles together, so we've been in a lot of war.
We've been fighting for his children, we've still been fighting for his children.
We've got a little bit more to do, of course, and we're looking forward to the opportunity to represent his case, and I think Mr. Jones has said it all so far, and I think that's all I wanna say, is we're gonna look at how to keep it broad in general.
alex jones
Absolutely, and a lot of stuff going on.
jordan holmes
Mr. Jones has said it all so far.
So what I heard him give was a boilerplate lawyer response of like, we're going to continue to fight for his kids.
dan friesen
We're fighting for the kids.
jordan holmes
We're going to do the thing.
dan friesen
Keep on keeping on.
jordan holmes
We're going to give very general, broad results, and I think Alex has said it all already.
And that slipped out of the back of his mind.
I think Alex has said too fucking much already, but he said it all.
dan friesen
Then he goes on to say a little bit more.
I think this is one of the first indications that this dude might not be a very great lawyer.
alex jones
And Texas is the only state that has juries for family law.
unidentified
Texas is the only state in the United States, as far as I know, and I think I got it, that allows juries to decide to issue child custody.
dan friesen
Did you catch that?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He said that Texas is the only state, as far as I know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You should know.
jordan holmes
Seems pretty important.
dan friesen
His specialty is family law.
jordan holmes
Although all he does is practice family law in Texas.
dan friesen
But who cares?
You should know the state of the union, as it were.
jordan holmes
He should also really know more about this because he is not going to be in demand in Texas for a while.
dan friesen
I mean, this is bad for you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe that's why he doesn't want to say much.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I wouldn't want to be part of that at all.
dan friesen
Don't put my business on the street, Alex.
I just lost your fucking case.
jordan holmes
I am still charging you by the word now.
I am not charging you by the hour.
It is by the word.
dan friesen
So this next part, we're going to get into another chunk of Q&A.
He loses control again.
And one of the people asks, how are his kids doing?
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a bad question.
dan friesen
It's a great question, theoretically.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, we're living in this world, so I can already guess that this is not going to go great.
dan friesen
Well, we'll see if he actually even answers.
Or if he's going to end up talking about the destruction of the United States.
alex jones
My children are doing pretty good.
They're just reading the newspaper and they say, that's not true, Dad.
Or you didn't do that, Dad.
And, you know, there was so much going on in this trial where the media would sit there and either get wrong what was being said or it would be an evidentiary meeting or something would be thrown out.
There was a lot of stuff where there wasn't supposed to be evidence that came in and then magically it still played and then it was edited.
It was just, you know, that's what happens when you're changing the world.
That's what happens when the old decaying system is upset by people who don't have all the answers but just aren't going along with it anymore.
And so, you know, that happened when our country was founded.
dan friesen
Yes, we all remember when John Quincy Adams had his kids taken away around the founding of the United States.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
Look, when you're trying to change the world...
They take your kids away.
dan friesen
Right, absolutely.
jordan holmes
That's what happened to Martin Luther King Jr.
dan friesen
That's what happened to Malcolm X. Yeah, you know that's why they call them the founding alienated fathers.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
The founding fathers who have supervised custody.
dan friesen
Exactly.
That's such an absurd statement.
That's what happens when you try and be cool.
unidentified
When you try and change the world, people are going to take your kids.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Not at all your own actions to blame for this.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
alex jones
In places like North Korea and Venezuela, they don't have change.
They live in stagnant control.
Everybody follows orders.
And then the people flee those countries and come here and bitch and complain about the little bit of freedom that's left and complain about the American system of free market.
And that, of course, is until that system collapses.
And then, you know, we realize that we wish we wouldn't have killed America.
But the globalists want to kill competition.
They want to consolidate control.
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
And so, again, I'm just here to tell everybody that InfoWars is growing, we're expanding, and I want to thank all the listeners and viewers for their prayers.
But I just wanted to come over here and have a little press conference for you guys and clarify where everything is, where everything stands, and just realize that much of...
Much of what they would keep saying in the trial, the lawyers would just say, he throws away the toys, and he does this, and there would never be a witness on the stand saying, I was ready to hear, and he crucified Christ, and he sunk the Lusitania and the Titanic, and he shot Lincoln at the Ford Theater, and Alex Jones robbed Ford Knox, and Alex Jones poisoned George Washington, and Alex Jones did this, Alex Jones did that.
But the great news is, mainstream media is so discredited.
unidentified
That the more they have, the more listeners in support we get.
alex jones
So it's quite a paradigm.
But in little nested areas of followers like here in Austin, Texas, it's pretty clear that the government-loving corporate worship system, the fake liberal system, still has its tentacles growing and doing well.
And so we hope to try to revive some of the people, just like North Koreans are in a cult.
Or people in Venezuela are in a cult.
People in Cuba are in a cult.
You know, we're just here.
unidentified
Or you're speaking to all the pseudo-electuals and cops.
alex jones
And others are just hoping that someday they break out of the control paradigm they're in.
But regardless, it doesn't matter.
We're just glad to be trailblazers and be free.
And we're just really, really glad that the American people are continuing to wake up.
So thanks for coming out tonight.
jordan holmes
So kids, on the weekend, thank you.
alex jones
However you guys distort this.
dan friesen
He ends that with saying, I look forward to hearing how you distort this.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, like, the thing that's so fucked up is...
jordan holmes
What could you possibly do to distort that?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Play it in context?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's...
dan friesen
It's terrible in context.
jordan holmes
There's nothing there to distort.
dan friesen
That's why I loved that AP piece that came out that was just the unedited transcript of the interview with Trump.
unidentified
Perfect.
dan friesen
Because it's like, it's so much worse than them writing an article.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What else is there to say?
dan friesen
It's terrifying.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's an idiot.
dan friesen
I've got the best rating since 9-11.
jordan holmes
He's an idiot.
He's a moron with clearly degenerative mental illness.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, also, this thing is super awesome.
Because, Alex, as we go along, we just see these trends and these behaviors that he does.
And this is adolescent behavior.
When he's like, you know, they said all this stuff.
And I'm surprised they didn't say that I killed the president and I robbed Fort Knox.
It's the exact same thing he did with the Chobani thing where he's like, alright, Muslims have never hurt anybody ever.
They've never shot anybody.
It's all you're doing is you know that the argument against you is bad and you can't engage with it so you just try and overblow it and pretend like that's what the person actually is saying.
And they're not.
And you're in trouble.
jordan holmes
Very much in trouble.
dan friesen
You're in trouble.
So, yeah, that is awesome.
That guy walking by.
We love you, Alex!
Love you too, man.
Might as well be Whip Them Out Wednesdays.
Some shit.
So, we've got a couple more clips left.
And we're going to have the introduction of a new character.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
There is...
jordan holmes
Rainbow Snatch?
dan friesen
No, this is not an intentional character.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There is...
jordan holmes
Go ahead.
Here's my pitch for Alex's next character, alright?
Has Rainbow Snatch, or whatever, Millie Weaver, has Millie Weaver dress up like his daughter and then live with him?
dan friesen
I think he would be into that.
jordan holmes
I think he would be super into that.
dan friesen
It would be like a matchstick man situation.
So, no, that is not the character.
It is a drunk homeless man.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck yes.
So a drunk homeless man just wanders...
dan friesen
Yep.
Into the press conference.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
Yep.
And he starts...
jordan holmes
Does he successfully ask a question?
dan friesen
He doesn't.
He does become Alex Jones' hype man, though.
unidentified
Yes!
jordan holmes
Thank you, Jesus!
dan friesen
And Alex is so bad at keeping control of the situation that he's just like, ha ha, yeah, this guy.
It's so awesome.
It's so crazy.
I want to pull up this because the only coverage on Infowars.com of this whole thing was an article about this homeless man.
But it's not an in-depth article or anything like that.
I've got to pull it up here because I want to quote it.
Appropriately.
Alright, so the headline is transient man trolls media attacking Alex Jones.
That is their take on it.
jordan holmes
That's their take on that?
dan friesen
Yes.
As if it's...
jordan holmes
As if the homeless man is like, look.
dan friesen
And you can see that's the guy.
He's shirtless.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
Appears to be probably a rough life, I would assume.
jordan holmes
And so their idea is that he saw the media there going like...
Oh, it's time for somebody to troll that false stream media.
dan friesen
I gotta step up from my man Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
This guy has no idea who Alex Jones is.
jordan holmes
All homeless people listen to InfoWars.
That's just a true fact.
dan friesen
The only connection that this guy and Alex Jones have is that I think he probably believes there are fish people.
That's the only connection I think they could have.
Anyway, I'm not sure if he gets...
jordan holmes
The more we talk about it, the more I believe there are fish people, though, so that doesn't really count.
dan friesen
I'm not sure if he comes in in this next clip or the one after it, but I wanted to introduce him as a force in the story.
This next clip is just about a really...
He's just abusing the press some more, and he's just telling them they suck and that they're fake.
alex jones
You know, again, that was all out of context, and I was saying that wasn't a good thing.
So that turned in that I said that, and I said it was a good thing.
That's all part of the deception.
And I get it.
You guys should try your hand being fiction writers.
And, you know, write pure fiction, because the BS you're writing in the newspapers, you'd make a lot more money in fiction, you know, writing fiction stories.
That's what I'm telling you.
That's why the corporate media brands me as fake, or as an actor, when I never said that or never did that, or they play semantical games.
If I do 90% serious news and 10% satire and comedy and...
jordan holmes
We get it.
alex jones
And if I'm sitting around on the show playing the part of a British aristocrat...
unidentified
I understand.
alex jones
You know, saying, oh, I love the New World Order.
unidentified
That doesn't mean I'm actually a British aristocrat.
alex jones
Oh, my God.
That doesn't mean I'm sold out on an actor.
jordan holmes
You're boring now.
alex jones
And that's just playing semantical games with your audience.
dan friesen
That's exactly what you're doing.
But also, this is fucking atrocious because he's made this exact statement.
jordan holmes
30 million odd times now.
dan friesen
It's...
I know...
jordan holmes
10 times!
15 times!
20 times!
dan friesen
I know he said we weren't going to talk about it anymore, but I left it in here for a specific reason.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because it leads down a path that he doesn't want to go down.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And the reporters start actually asking him some questions, and it falls apart a little bit.
jordan holmes
Ooh, no good.
dan friesen
But he...
Him introducing this idea of, like, I use satire and I play characters and blah, blah, blah.
That thing is actually important here.
alex jones
And it's got to be sad to only have an audience of people who are in basically sleep trance-like states.
I mean, mainstream TV viewers are admittedly lower IQ, lower income, near trance state.
And so I'm not talking to people in trance state.
jordan holmes
Nice little laugh there, buddy.
alex jones
I'm talking to people that are awake.
All right, guys, we appreciate you coming out.
I want to see the fiction.
The fiction you guys come up with, how you twist this.
dan friesen
So now this is the second time he's tried to end the press conference.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's trying to bounce.
He's trying to get out of here.
dan friesen
And you'll see that this is not the last time he tries to end it.
alex jones
Very entertaining.
All the big shows, all the big comedy shows, all the big nightly shows.
jordan holmes
Love the comedy.
alex jones
Love the deception.
Let's keep it going.
Just keep reporting on how we're changing the world.
You've got to report on us and distort the truth, turn it upside down.
Even though you turn it upside down, people know it's powerful because there's still the image of truth there, even though it's upside down.
So we'll continue being the people changing history.
We'll be the people that actually force the serious issues onto the table and will continue to get ridiculed as all trailblazers are.
So we love you, and someday you'll be out of your commas, mainstream media.
God bless you, and thank you so much.
dan friesen
So you hear a female voice there right at the end.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that leads to this next question.
It is important to point out that he has just lambasted these people as being awful.
And, hey, you know, you don't realize it, but the only reason you hate us is because we're trailblazers.
jordan holmes
Right.
And you guys only have an audience of sleep...
dan friesen
Dumb, dumb-dumbs.
Yeah.
I have an innovative...
We're making history, blah, blah, blah.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
This next question, it speaks to the use of satire.
And in case it's not fully clear, what the lady is asking is...
This is a serious situation.
Like, a lot of the stuff that you're...
Why are you using satire when things are so serious, basically?
jordan holmes
It's the satire if it's such a serious matter.
unidentified
That's what I'm curious about.
alex jones
Well, when I talk about satire, I'm very obviously satire.
unidentified
But you are, Mickey.
Stay welcome.
Woo!
Did your wife catch you in bed with a goblin?
alex jones
He'll say I'm serious.
They'll say he said he was joking.
Hey, we're starting to catch Trump in the middle of goblins.
There'll be headlines like, Jones believes Trump is having...
I saw headlines like, Jones is obsessed with Trump having sex with goblins.
dan friesen
No one wrote that headline.
I don't want to write that headline.
Whenever he started putting Goldman Sachs people in, he tried to make the argument that he needs goblin guides.
If he's going to get through the goblin territory, he needs to use Locals, as it were.
But if I catch him fucking a goblin, then that's going to be a problem.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And that's what his metaphor was.
And no one wrote an article that thought that there were literal goblins.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
And, yeah, so that's why people are laughing at him, trying to use that as an example.
And that guy asking him that question, that's trolling.
jordan holmes
That was trolling.
dan friesen
What Alex is doing is not trolling.
jordan holmes
Not trolling.
dan friesen
That guy asking, did your wife catch you fucking a goblin?
jordan holmes
That's a good bit.
alex jones
That's trolling.
jordan holmes
That's a good little bit.
unidentified
Man, y 'all better quit dirty-making my man.
jordan holmes
Now we have introduced our new hero!
dan friesen
This is the transient man who is also not trolling.
You'll see where this goes.
unidentified
Ha ha!
dan friesen
Go to make.
unidentified
Why do it if it's so serious?
jordan holmes
It's the subject matter is so serious.
alex jones
Charging into a goblin's nest.
unidentified
No, but why, why, why mix it with the satire?
jordan holmes
That's dirty, mate.
alex jones
Waking people up.
Kissing goblins, goblins vomit.
Catch them in a pebble with a goblin.
unidentified
I'm asking a serious question.
Ha ha!
Ha ha!
Ha ha ha!
Do you know what I like to answer the serious question?
jordan holmes
Why, why mix, why mix the satire into the funny stuff?
unidentified
It's the same reason why Colbert and the Hardness got away with the comedians and...
jordan holmes
Who is that dude?
dan friesen
There was another person in the crowd.
But this is fully off the rails now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is just a group chat now.
dan friesen
If you're watching the video, the homeless guy is just hanging out.
And Alex is sort of like, uh...
But this question is kind of stupid, I have to say.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is a very dumb question.
Of course you do that just because it gets fucking boring, really.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, and the idea that satire can't be serious is not appropriate.
Or at least it's a dumb question.
But the question...
A better formed version of the question is, you're really bad at satire.
So why are you doing...
jordan holmes
That's not a question.
unidentified
No, no.
jordan holmes
That's foundational.
What you should have just said is, you're really bad at satire.
dan friesen
If you're so bad at satire, why would you use it in such a serious situation?
You're going to have people misunderstand you.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And all that sort of shit.
That would be a better formed version of the question.
It's not asked.
But, again, it is important because what it leads to.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Now, here we go.
Homeless guy, still in play.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
These people are at the same time.
alex jones
Let's talk about that.
I like to have fun.
It's gallows humor.
If 5-10% of the time I say, hey, let's have a comedy piece.
And I dressed up like Gore from the old Star Trek episode.
And the media goes, look, he thinks he's a giant lizard.
And I go, I'm acting.
And they go, oh, my God, you're an actor.
You deceived all your viewers.
Everybody knows that's bull.
That's having fun.
I mean, Obama and Bush had, like, jokes at the White House.
unidentified
They sure did.
jordan holmes
Where they make jokes with the dog or at the helicopter or whatever.
alex jones
And they're serious all the other time.
So I'm not allowed to joke.
When I'm joking, it's fake.
All right, just bump me.
unidentified
Yeah, you are.
alex jones
We're out of here.
unidentified
Hey.
dan friesen
I love this.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is now my favorite thing!
dan friesen
It's worth it.
It took like half an hour of the press conference to get to this, but now we're here.
jordan holmes
Oh, now it's a fucking...
dan friesen
So yeah, every time you heard that...
Sure did.
Yeah, they do.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
They joke.
jordan holmes
That's the homeless guy.
Hey, you're allowed to joke.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
Or, I'm sorry, the transient guy.
I don't know if he has a home or not.
But yeah, so he tries to end the press conference again there.
And here is why that satire question was important.
Because there's a follow-up that the person makes asking specific things like, was this satire?
jordan holmes
Oh no!
That is not where Alex wanted that to go.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
Then he has to cop to believing this or not believing that.
dan friesen
Neither answer is good.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So the first one...
jordan holmes
So I'm going to go out on a limb and say he does not answer that at all.
dan friesen
He should have just left, but he...
jordan holmes
What he should have said.
There's nothing.
dan friesen
The first one is regarding Alex Jones' claims that he's made in the past that Obama's children might not be his children.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That sort of thing.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
alex jones
Again, I'm looking forward to all your fiction.
unidentified
Obama's children were really his own.
alex jones
You know, that was a joke.
That was a joke.
I was sitting there with a tournament with Sean Aram.
And then, I mean, look.
Here's an example.
Here's an example.
You go back to...
Who was the lady that was the...
Joan Rivers.
Joan Rivers jokes and says everybody knows that Obama's wife's a tranny, and a couple weeks later she dies, you know, in that medical experience she was going through.
Then I said, look, Joan Rivers said she's a tranny, and then she's dead.
The media then said, I said that Mrs. Obama was...
You guys did.
Exactly.
dan friesen
Do you worry that your readers took you seriously or your listeners took you seriously?
alex jones
It was clearly a joke.
We were laughing about it.
Let me explain again.
This is a fact.
This is a fact.
What happened is...
unidentified
How about that?
alex jones
That's right.
unidentified
How about that?
alex jones
It's going to be good.
unidentified
How about that?
alex jones
We got the new Colbert character right here.
How about that?
You know, Don't use that language, Alex.
dan friesen
That's stupid and bigoted.
But also...
I mean, disrespectful, let's say, instead of bigoted.
But he's lying.
100%.
jordan holmes
Is he?
dan friesen
It's very easy to find clips of him reporting on Michelle Obama being secretly a man.
We've gone over it in the past.
unidentified
Yes, that's true.
dan friesen
We've played these clips on the show.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
He calls her Michael Obama sometimes.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I mean, if he wants to say it's joking, fine.
But that means that the way he jokes is by giving serious-sounding news reports.
And if that's his argument, that's worse than him just being like, we got that one wrong.
It's way worse.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because that opens up literally everything he's ever said as a joke.
dan friesen
If you watch the coverage of the...
jordan holmes
God, now all I want is that transient gentleman to be right next to him during every InfoWars show.
dan friesen
Yeah, that would...
jordan holmes
Why?
That's your new story right there, InfoWars.
InfoWars hires hype man.
dan friesen
Done.
Perfect.
That would be amazing.
If you guys want to hear a full breakdown of that, where we play the clips and everything, it's on our February 24th episode of 2017.
We play the clips of him absolutely not joking about Michelle Obama.
You're busted on that one, Alex, and it's pretty whack.
jordan holmes
Somebody's at the door.
dan friesen
We're going to pretend I'm not here.
jordan holmes
You're not there?
dan friesen
I'm going to hide in the closet.
God damn it.
All right.
Who's there?
jordan holmes
You busted.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
I like to add a little more depth to the scene.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I like it.
I was trying to yes, Andrew.
dan friesen
So at the end of that last clip, there was another voice that chimed in that was like, was Sandy Hook satire?
jordan holmes
Yeah, there it is.
There's the big question.
dan friesen
Now that question's going to be asked again, and Alex is going to lie about what he did with Sandy Hook again.
alex jones
That's a joke, too.
jordan holmes
You seriously believe Sandy Hook is the false flag stuff?
alex jones
I think we should investigate everything because the government states so much stuff.
Then they lie and say that I said the whole thing was totally fake when I was playing devil's advocate in a debate.
I said maybe the whole thing's real, maybe the whole thing's fake.
They were using blue screens out there.
Why won't the media?
I know that's the anointed thing your editors tell you to go out.
And like, well, that's what the media talks about.
jordan holmes
You're just regurgitating that.
alex jones
They asked about Sandy Hook.
They asked about Sandy Hook.
They said, yes, the government states things.
So it's not...
They had to question him.
Anyways, you guys have fun.
unidentified
Thank you.
My apology on the air.
alex jones
My apology on what?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
You made an apology about what it was.
unidentified
Spider, go!
alex jones
It wasn't that.
It wasn't that.
You don't remember?
jordan holmes
No, I don't.
unidentified
Sorry.
alex jones
No, I clarified on the pizza game thing because I didn't create that, and the media was saying I did.
And I'd reported on some things, just talked about some reports in the news that weren't totally accurate.
So I said, I didn't create that story, and I don't appreciate the media saying I'm the creator of it.
So then I clarified what was going on, and I said I'm sorry if I hurt anybody because I actually try to have credibility.
That's what happened there.
I gotta go.
All right, you bet.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out the way!
dan friesen
That's complete.
You're lying, Alex.
You're lying about what you said about Sandy Hook.
You were not playing devil's advocate.
You literally said that there were no children killed.
It was all actors.
jordan holmes
False flag.
dan friesen
Completely synthetic event.
So fuck you.
You can listen to our entire episode about that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we did spend quite a bit of time on it.
dan friesen
Yep, so that one is completely...
That's Swiss cheese right there.
And then you're even lying further about what you did in the situation with Pizzagate.
I mean, you lie and say that you didn't...
Claim that there was sex abuse going on at Comet Ping Pong, which there are videos that you deleted from the internet, but people still have.
jordan holmes
The internet?
Turns out it's really hard to scrub something from it.
dan friesen
Yeah, so you're lying about that, and then you're even lying about what your apology was.
You're a coward who's trying to dodge a lawsuit.
Fuck you.
jordan holmes
It's pretty sad.
This is actually very, very sad.
If it weren't for the transient gentleman wandering in and bringing joy into my life and yours...
This would be a bummer.
dan friesen
It would also be a massive bummer if he didn't deserve it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
If he was a decent person, it would be horrifying.
jordan holmes
This is pathetic, though.
This is just really...
This is just him struggling so hard to get out of all of these traps that he's locked himself into.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And he's just...
I mean, the worst part is he's probably going to get away with this shit.
dan friesen
Some of it.
jordan holmes
Other than when Chobani really murders his ass.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I mean, if Chobani could get, like, what, $10 million from him or something like that?
jordan holmes
Oh, God, I want them to get so much money from him.
dan friesen
I don't know what the situation is.
Look, he is going to get away with it in the sense that he's not done anything that's specifically a felony or anything like that.
jordan holmes
It's all civil matters.
Nobody's going to bail on him.
Well, even on the Stormfront thing...
People are already trying to make up reasons that now he can get away with all kinds of other shit.
dan friesen
Well, that's because of...
jordan holmes
Like, nobody's jumping off of his bandwagon.
dan friesen
But that's because of the incredibly fun intersection of, like, anti-Semitism and misogyny.
jordan holmes
Yes, that incredibly fun intersection.
dan friesen
Well, that's what the internet is all about, basically.
I mean, you have these, like, disempowered dudes who...
Find hubs on the internet and all roads lead to Rome.
And in this case, unfortunately, Rome is bigotry.
jordan holmes
It is Nazis.
dan friesen
And misogyny and blah, blah, blah.
So, cool, cool.
I love it.
It's that awesome thing where what you're saying is exactly right.
The people on that Stormfront website, and I can't remember what the other one was.
There was another message board, another bigot message board.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That was having the exact same conversation.
And it is.
They're making excuses for him.
Their problem is he's not calling out Israel.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Not that he's lying to them.
dan friesen
Right.
But instead of making that his fault, they make it his ex-wife's fault.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because she's Jewish.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's insane.
It's insane, these gymnastics you have to go through.
You're a contortionist, intellectually.
jordan holmes
But that's...
Like, this is such a real bummer, mainly because...
If there was going to be any possibility that you could reach all of the right-wing propaganda-filled people, like all of the Fox News viewers, right?
If there was any chance to reach them, then you would see the beginnings of it here where people would finally go like, oh, Alex Jones is full of shit.
I'm going to stop listening to him.
Or I'm going to stop defending him.
Or the Bill O 'Reilly thing.
Right, well, yeah.
Well, the Bill O 'Reilly thing.
Nobody who loves Bill O 'Reilly is changing their minds.
Like, this is something that you have to be able to do if you think there's any chance of this whole world just not fucking falling apart.
dan friesen
Well, look at it from their perspective.
You know, you have someone like Bill O 'Reilly, and he's obviously guilty of these things.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And his argument is, the truth is going to come out and it'll shock you.
Well, it already did.
jordan holmes
It wasn't very shocking at all.
dan friesen
He means it the other way around, though, that he's being lied about and eventually the truth will come out.
Now, we can flash forward a few years and no truth that is redeeming for him is going to come out, but it doesn't matter because that argument is enough.
In the same way that Alex is here being like, look, the judge has got a rule on stuff and the specifics might be like a month or whatever.
I didn't really lose this case.
We're just back where we started with joint custody.
All this stuff.
Flash forward a month, people will be talking about the Chobani suit, or whatever the next thing is.
His narrative will flip to the next thing, and he'll never have to deal with, like, no one will even remember that he lied to them about this.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's fucking very frustrating.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Very frustrating.
But I guess we did choose to do this.
That's on us.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
We've fallen into a trap of our own making.
Agreed.
dan friesen
We've trolled ourselves.
jordan holmes
I just want...
I just want one small subsection to just finally be like, wait, he is lying to us.
Now, that takes a monumental effort.
It really does.
Because if you've been a fan of Alex Jones for 15 years or 20 years or whatever, all of a sudden you finally have to come to that spot where you go, I have been lied to by this man.
What else?
Was he not telling the truth about?
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, it's everything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Like, the moment you get there, that is that watershed moment.
The moment that happens, it tips one way or the other.
And there's no help if it doesn't go across there.
dan friesen
We're going down, like, an interesting long path here, but the reason that most people can't do that, especially, like, have you found Alex Jones when you were young?
When you were an angry, impressionable, obviously white person.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
A white male.
jordan holmes
Super white dude.
The whitest of dudes.
dan friesen
There's a lot of things that he says that help you make sense of the world and why you're not as successful as you want to be.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And there is a utility to the lies for people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There is a sense of, like, understanding the world and the confusions.
And, you know, we talk about this all the time, a lot off mic.
The idea of people having to make sense of randomness.
You come up with whatever explanation you come up with.
And the random chance of life, no, it's the Jews.
Obviously it's the Jews.
Or the globalists, as it were.
And so, once you have that mind virus in your brain, getting rid of it creates a vacuum.
It creates a gap where now the world doesn't make sense.
And that's really scary for people.
So I think a lot of the time you get used to having that crutch there even though the crutch is actually hurting you.
It's digging into your shoulder.
Ah, here we go.
So there was this guy back in Columbia, Missouri who used to come into the liquor store my brother worked at all the time.
He was this younger guy, maybe like 40 or so, and he always was in a wheelchair.
And the story that we came to learn over the course of time was that he was kind of like, as I recall, he was a scam artist kind of trying to get disability stuff.
And so he...
jordan holmes
I'm on his side right now.
dan friesen
He was going around in a wheelchair for a really long time when he didn't need to be in a wheelchair.
Alright.
jordan holmes
I'm liking where this is going.
dan friesen
Well, the thing is, because he stayed in a wheelchair for a really long time, a lot of his muscles atrophied, and it got to the point where he needed to be in the wheelchair.
jordan holmes
Oh, ironic comeuppance!
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
So good.
dan friesen
He was a drunk who put himself into a wheelchair by scamming a wheelchair fraud thing.
So Alex Jones' listeners have that intellectual wheelchair.
They don't need to be in the wheelchair, but they think it's easier to go through life with that wheelchair rolling around than it is to walk.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And they don't realize you do this too long, you won't be able to get out of it.
You won't.
You'll never give up that wheelchair metaphorically.
unidentified
That was such a great fucking metaphor!
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
You just crushed it!
dan friesen
Yeah, fuck you, Alex.
jordan holmes
That made perfect sense within the context.
That was amazing.
dan friesen
That should give a press conference.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding!
Jesus.
I'm amazed that you had that anecdote right on the cusp right there.
dan friesen
I mean, you know, you do stand up for long enough and you talk into microphones for a long time.
You're kind of used to putting connections together.
Also, if you're not a fucking idiot, I'm not you, but Alex.
Alex Fish People Jones.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones.
dan friesen
So, anyway, we have two more clips left.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
You might be asking yourself, why the fuck do we have more clips?
That was the end of the press conference.
jordan holmes
It does seem like that was the end of the press conference.
Unless, my man...
dan friesen
It was the end of the press conference, but the camera kept rolling.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
And Buckley, who I believe...
jordan holmes
William F. Buckley Jr.
dan friesen
That's him.
I need to do some research into this.
As I understand it, it's Alex Jones' stepbrother.
Or something like that?
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Brother-in-law?
I'm not entirely sure.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But he always talks, hey, Buckley!
He's a guy who's like a behind-the-scenes bigwig at InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so he's the cameraman, and the two of them go into the courthouse, and I have confirmed now that the room with all the books is inside the courthouse, and it is where Alex Jones was broadcasting from.
jordan holmes
So they allowed him to broadcast there?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Because they're doing it on an iPhone, on Facebook Live and stuff like that.
So I don't know if they allowed it or not.
jordan holmes
So the answer is they did not ask anybody.
Because if they had asked, I would almost guarantee they were like, no, what are you talking about?
dan friesen
We can't report that because we don't know, but all indications seem to imply no.
jordan holmes
Eight balling at all signs point to yes.
dan friesen
So this one, there's two clips.
One of them...
The second one is Alex reading the jury's decision and kind of being really murky about it.
But this first one is about...
jordan holmes
Taking some things out of context, if you will?
dan friesen
Possibly.
This first one is about therapists that got involved.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
But I would describe this as a fever hallucination.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Like, it's so bizarre.
Like, when I was listening to it, I thought, I'm not well.
I thought something was going on.
He's pulling in some weird details.
You know how I just pulled out that awesome metaphor?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He does the exact opposite.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's crazy.
I really thought I drank way too much last night.
That's really what I thought.
jordan holmes
You did, but...
unidentified
I did, but I thought, like, I gotta go back to bed.
jordan holmes
I gotta quit drinking and fix my life.
dan friesen
I feel that way when I listen to Alex all the time.
alex jones
Responded to undergo alcohol drug assessment.
So my wife asked for this.
My lawyer said, you don't have to do this, but you're not on drugs.
And I said, no.
And he goes, well, you don't drink that much.
I said, no, I can quit here and there.
They did, like, test for five days.
I said, just to prove all this, I'll do it.
So my wife recommended to her lawyers the guardian item, Allison Wilcox that came in, highly respected.
She's the famous lady that lived the longest pregnant on a boat after her cellboat capsized.
There's movies about her.
She lives right here.
She's a PhD.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Real nice lady.
And so I agree.
So I go to the test, nothing there.
I go to psychology meetings, I get psychologically assessed.
dan friesen
So that's the first instance of, like, I don't know what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
What just happened there?
dan friesen
I honestly didn't...
jordan holmes
Was that her lawyer?
No, it was a psychologist, I believe.
unidentified
The woman who famously lived longest on a boat pregnant?
dan friesen
Pregnant, yeah.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I didn't look into...
jordan holmes
Pregnant, lived longest on a boat.
That's where we begin.
dan friesen
He says her name, but I didn't Google it because I don't care.
I want that to live in my brain.
It's confusion.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that should be more of a non-sequitur than it is right now.
I don't even like knowing.
I don't even want to know that she has a name.
I just want him to be like, yeah, my psychiatrist was the lady who lived longest on a boat pregnant.
Great.
dan friesen
Great.
unidentified
Awesome.
jordan holmes
Done.
That means she's a great psychiatrist, right?
That's her credit.
dan friesen
It has literally no bearing on her skills as a professional.
jordan holmes
Or, if any bearing, probably negative.
dan friesen
Also, like...
Okay, so she lived the longest, pregnant on a boat that capsized.
There are movies about her.
What movie?
I've never heard that as a plot for a movie.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Well, you've never seen Blue Crush.
dan friesen
That's true.
I've seen Into the Blues.
jordan holmes
There you go.
It's also about her.
unidentified
Oh, fuck.
You know what?
dan friesen
This was Guardians of the Galaxy.
jordan holmes
I would argue 45% of all movies are about her.
dan friesen
About the pregnant lady on a boat?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Also...
Still need to go see Fate of the Furious.
Still haven't seen it.
I'm fucking pissed off about it.
jordan holmes
I'm right there, too.
dan friesen
Yeah.
If I didn't want to go to bed at, like, nine tonight, I would 100% go see it.
Anyway, that is sort of the first instance of, like, I think I'm hallucinating.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it just, it goes on.
alex jones
All this goes on, and the problem was the court said, you too late.
unidentified
And that's when the issues started.
alex jones
I'm just going to stop right there.
So, let's go ahead and fast forward to this.
This is 2017, what she filed a few months ago, and what the jury just ruled on.
They didn't give her sole conservator, and I don't see my kids.
She filed to where I wouldn't even see them except for supervised.
But they said, oh, we feel sorry for you.
We'll make you joint, and we'll say their primary residence is with mother.
dan friesen
So he's implying there that the jury's ruling was based in pity.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Which is...
Unconscionable.
Also, earlier he said that she went to a treatment facility in Arizona or New Mexico, and he was laughing about it, which is very cruel.
jordan holmes
No, you should mock the people with mental illnesses.
dan friesen
Here he's saying that he underwent the drug thing with the pregnant boat lady, I guess, and then the problem started because she needed to go to it too, but we're not going to get into that.
And because he doesn't get into it...
The audience's mind obviously goes to, oh, she was doing tons of drugs.
jordan holmes
Or she was pregnant on a boat.
dan friesen
One of the two.
jordan holmes
One of the two.
dan friesen
But she didn't break the record.
jordan holmes
She didn't break...
That's the whole reason they're getting this divorce in the first place.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Jones is pissed!
dan friesen
Honey, I told you you had to break the record.
We are an exceptional family.
So he's not quite...
jordan holmes
Either that or the mainstream media is lying about the other lady.
dan friesen
Totally possible.
jordan holmes
That's entirely possible.
alex jones
Okay?
Because we didn't put all this on.
We were just like Mr. Nice and the whole thing.
High road.
The media was reporting, oh, he's going to win, he's going to win.
You know, 14 psychologists say all this stuff about her.
I didn't want that to happen.
I just can't sit here and have press conferences, you know, where she's having press conferences about national alienation and, you know, taking kids away from people when the kids got taken away because she was telling them.
The Guardian lied to the psychologist that she wanted them taken away from me because I listened to rock and roll music.
dan friesen
See, that's the other instance of I think I'm hallucinating.
jordan holmes
Does he think national alienization...
He's talking about aliens.
dan friesen
It could be fish people.
jordan holmes
Because the way he said that had the sound of, she's talking about national alienization?
That's from Independence Day!
dan friesen
Some Guardians of the Galaxy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Those aliens and that pregnant lady on a boat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I don't know what he's saying.
I don't know, because he's not making a coherent point.
He thinks it somehow is proving that...
She's wrong, but I don't...
jordan holmes
I don't understand how.
dan friesen
I can't understand how because it's so convoluted.
jordan holmes
I also don't...
Does he think...
dan friesen
I don't know how to evaluate that claim.
jordan holmes
Did he say that the media was reporting multiple times that Alex was going to win?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He said that, right?
dan friesen
The lying media.
jordan holmes
Wait, but...
Did you see any of that?
dan friesen
I think I saw some tweets from people covering it that were like, it looks like he's going to...
Because it is a big deal.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Like, it's a big deal to change the conservator and make these kids move to a house that they didn't live in for the last years.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, it is a massive...
It's not a massive...
It's not massive on the scale of like, you can't see this person ever again.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But it is not a decision that's made lightly.
jordan holmes
No, that's true.
dan friesen
You're uprooting the lives of children.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And people...
Let's really pull the curtain back on society.
You're uprooting the lives of affluent white children.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's a lot of stuff that goes on under the rug, as it were, with...
People who are minorities and poor, disenfranchised populations.
This is a celebrity's kids who's rich as shit.
So they would not...
I think that most of the reporting that was like, he's probably going to win, were in acknowledgement of like, they've got to prove a case if they're going to change this.
And the fact that they did means that it wasn't cursed.
jordan holmes
There's absolutely a case.
dan friesen
But also, Alex...
jordan holmes
Well, they weren't vaccinated.
Fuck them.
dan friesen
That's a big problem.
jordan holmes
That's a huge problem.
dan friesen
Alex also debunks his whole entire press conference where he's screaming at the media by saying that all these media reports are saying I was going to win.
jordan holmes
They're great when they agree with me.
They're bad when they disagree with me.
That's the baseline of truth versus fake.
Truth versus fake.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Do you agree with me?
You're telling the truth.
Do you disagree with me?
You're fake news.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
That's it.
It's that simple.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, do you remember that old segment Bill O 'Reilly used to have pinheads and patriots?
jordan holmes
No, I don't.
dan friesen
He had a segment where every week he would label someone who disagreed with him a pinhead and someone who agreed with him, patriot.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Also, do you remember Sean Hannity?
However, like how he used to answer calls on his show?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
People would call in and they'd be like, hey, Sean, you're a great American.
You're a great American.
I miss that so much.
jordan holmes
Your trustworthiness is dependent upon how trustworthy you think I am.
dan friesen
You recognize the great American in me, and ergo, you too are a great American.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
That simple.
dan friesen
And like Alex, whenever he's talking about people being on hold for a long time, like, hey, you guys are out there holding like patriots.
jordan holmes
God.
dan friesen
It's all branding.
jordan holmes
I wish I lived in that small of a world.
How easy is that?
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
I mean, we could just start doing it.
We could start being like, look at all these people donating to our Patreon like patriots.
Patreon patriots.
And we could do stuff like that.
jordan holmes
I mean, we do call them policy wonks.
dan friesen
That's a good point.
jordan holmes
We kind of...
dan friesen
Clearly satire.
jordan holmes
Oh, is it?
Oh, did you put your fist person mask on?
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
We're raging hypocrites?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, this next clip is Alex reading the jury's verdict, as it were.
And I don't remember why I kept this clip.
So, we'll see.
alex jones
The circumstances of the children's affected by the order.
And it goes on.
Look at this.
Counter petitioner should be named sole managing conserver.
jordan holmes
He does not understand any of those words.
He does not understand any of those words he said.
dan friesen
And the counter person is his ex-wife.
And she should be named the sole conserver.
I mean, let's even start this from the beginning.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's exactly what it says.
dan friesen
The court verdict is...
It reads as exactly what he says it doesn't.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I remember now why this is in, is because he's going to claim that this isn't the jury's decision, that this is just what she wanted.
And that's not the case.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So hold on.
alex jones
The circumstances of the children's affected by the order.
And it goes on.
Look at this.
Counter petitioners should be named sole managing conservator.
Because I was the conservator.
Of the children subject to this suit, it should be awarded all rights and duties as the sole managing conservator.
She didn't get that.
She got joined.
jordan holmes
She did get that.
alex jones
AJA should be awarded a modified possession order, having all such designated periods of possession and access supervised with no overnight visitation until such time as the court should make that.
So, imagine, I'm sitting there watching witnesses from my other states who never even met my kids or anybody go, He took the kids in 2013, and that's bad, blah, blah, blah.
So now we need to do something about that, and then blah, blah, blah, and put all this out.
And that's just not the case.
jordan holmes
I think there's a lot in that blah, blah, blah.
alex jones
2017, the actual court filing, all of it.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I mean...
jordan holmes
He skipped over a lot in that blah, blah, blah.
dan friesen
When you want to discuss the case, and you claim you have documents that are important to the case, and then you do your press conference where you rail on the media...
And then you go into the private room in the courthouse and you have a couple of documents and you don't really engage with them and just tell the story of a pregnant lady on a boat.
And then your website doesn't even have those documents.
You don't publish those things.
But you do publish a story about how this transient man trolled the media.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It might indicate that you are blah blah blah.
You're not really...
It might indicate that blah blah blah is kind of all you've got.
There is nothing.
He doesn't have anything.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He lost.
jordan holmes
He lost.
dan friesen
For a reason.
Because he doesn't have a case.
unidentified
And...
He's not a good guy to be around.
dan friesen
Doesn't seem like it.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't want to be around him.
dan friesen
Buckley seems to enjoy it.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, fair enough.
dan friesen
Buckley!
jordan holmes
I wouldn't want to be raised in a cult environment.
As someone who is raised in a cult environment, that's not where I would want to be raised.
dan friesen
He said earlier in this that their closing statements weren't covered.
That's bullshit.
Those were absolutely covered.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And one of the things that came out in his ex-wife's closing statement is that Alex Jones is personally a cult leader.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he is someone who behaves like that.
It's obvious.
jordan holmes
Well, and again.
dan friesen
It's so obvious.
jordan holmes
Again, it's to the point where it has to trickle down to his personal life where if you agree with him, you're good.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And if you disagree with him, you're bad.
dan friesen
If I'm a good guy, there's no way I'm going to have the people that he has on his show on his show.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just impossible.
jordan holmes
But when you're raising kids, that's the other thing.
Imagine you take even the slightest modicum of that good trust is you believe me and globalist is you disbelieve me and apply it to raising a child.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Anytime that child disagrees with you, that is then...
He's exactly equal to every liar, every mainstream media.
dan friesen
George Soros paid you to lie to me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
So the pressure to never say anything that doesn't agree with him or to just make it so whatever it is he says is what you believe has to be so intense that of course he's a cult leader in that house.
dan friesen
And you're going to be denying your own sort of existence and your own reality in order to mold it to his.
jordan holmes
You're just a planet to his solars, his sun.
dan friesen
I want to make it even further clear that I 100% agree with you two, and I agree with his ex-wife's closing statements.
If you're not a cult leader, why do you have...
Cult leaders on your show regularly.
Why do you have Stefan Molyneux on?
jordan holmes
You know what?
I would actually argue that as defense that he's not a cult leader.
Because cult leaders traditionally don't hang out with each other.
dan friesen
No, but in the...
jordan holmes
Usually cult leaders aren't like, hey, you should check out this cult over here.
This guy's amazing.
dan friesen
But if you're ambivalent culty, this isn't Kool-Aid stuff.
But Stefan Molyneux does encourage people to not have people in their life who disagree with his weird libertarian ideas.
He says that you should cut people out of your life if they don't agree with you.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
There's a process called defooing.
It's ridiculous.
If you look into that shit, it's so insane.
jordan holmes
My parents did the same thing when they were in the cult.
Cut off all ties with their family.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
There's actual websites about people who have had to rebuild their lives because they were destroyed by Stefan Molyneux.
By his philosophies and all this shit.
It's really crazy.
He's a frequent guest on Alex Jones' show.
Gavin McGinnis created the Proud Boys, which is essentially a...
Latently homoerotic fraternity of dudes who are into the idea of white males being in charge of everything.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's a cult.
jordan holmes
That's a cult.
dan friesen
That's culty.
jordan holmes
Yep.
That's cult light.
dan friesen
Mike Cernovich is a lispy lawyer.
I don't know.
I'm not certain he has a cult.
But, you know, these are the sort of people who he has on his show.
They have the same tendencies.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Like tends to attract like.
You don't generally have people who are like, who cares?
Fuck all these people.
It just makes me really mad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Somebody should fight against them.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe a knowledge fight.
jordan holmes
Ah, we have a title.
dan friesen
Yeah, but anyway, I mean, at the end of the day, it's still important to remember.
alex jones
It's fun to laugh at Alex Scho.
It's fun.
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
Perfect timing on that.
dan friesen
So, anyway, guys, you can follow us.
You can check out our website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
You can follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.
Subscribe to us on iTunes.
Leave a nice little review.
Become a policy wonk if you like.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Or if you don't like, we are not cult leaders and we will not judge you negatively.
dan friesen
Totally respect the decision not to donate.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, we will love you more.
dan friesen
We have.
jordan holmes
Much like if you were our children.
And we had one who was really good.
dan friesen
And we'll publicly declare that you're smart.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
I mean, come on.
jordan holmes
Who wouldn't want to do that?
dan friesen
And, like I said, if you donate $10 a month or more, you can assign a date in history for us to cover what Alex was up to.
jordan holmes
This date in Alex Jones' history.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, anyway, thank you all for listening.
We do appreciate it.
What else?
Anything else we got on the...
jordan holmes
I think we should...
I think we should let people know that, you know, when they become policy wonks, they become a lot like us.
dan friesen
Sure.
They enter all rarefied air.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And what would you call yourself?
dan friesen
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Me too.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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