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Feb. 8, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#10: February 6, 2017

Today, Dan explains to Jordan all about what happened on the Alex Jones Show on February 6, 2017. Topics covered include: What news makes Alex Jones physically sick to read? How long can Dan and Jordan listen to Milo Yiannopolis without turning him off? Does Alex have any historical regrets about WW2? Is George Soros cool, or super uncool?

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
17:10
d
dan friesen
46:31
j
jordan holmes
43:04
Appearances
m
milo yiannopolis
01:44
Clips
a
alexander dugin
00:17
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
And welcome back.
This is what I'm going to call an emergency meeting of the Knowledge Fight.
The Knowledge Fight bat signal went up, and we had to respond.
jordan holmes
Also, there's no girls allowed in the...
alex jones
Nope.
dan friesen
Handwritten sign.
We learned.
That Milo Yiannopoulos was going to be a guest on Knowledge Fight, and we decided we fucking have to cover this.
jordan holmes
It was an immediate...
unidentified
Wait, wait.
dan friesen
What did he say?
He's going to be a guest on InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
On Alex Jones.
Not on our show.
But we knew we had to cover it.
We had to get in the studio.
We had to take care of it.
Now, unfortunately, in between...
jordan holmes
That makes us sound like we're heroes.
dan friesen
We kind of are.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
unidentified
All right.
You know what?
dan friesen
I'm a hero.
jordan holmes
You're losing your mind, but all right.
dan friesen
I'm a hero.
You know what else I am?
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
My new favorite drop.
I just want to throw that everywhere.
jordan holmes
I swear, when somebody finally gives us the techno remix, that's going in there along with I Love You.
dan friesen
Let's do a clean take for you guys if you want to make a hip-hop remix of this.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Best thing that's ever been said.
What a fucking asshole.
jordan holmes
Loves to get into the nitty gritty.
If there's anything we know about Alex Jones, it's that he loves figuring out what bills are most important.
dan friesen
Just getting in the weeds.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
Let me ask you a question.
Does that subsection get you hot?
I know it does for Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Oh, my God.
He's a wonk.
But, unfortunately, in between the time that we decided that we were going to do this episode about Milo being on...
Today, when you're listening to this, it will be yesterday's show.
On Tuesday's show, let me back up.
Milo was a guest.
jordan holmes
And restart the opening bump there, if you could?
unidentified
Alright.
dan friesen
I'm a policy wonk.
I'm a dates wonk.
I love you.
Milo was a guest on Monday.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And we decided we had to do a show.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And on Tuesday, he had another guest.
Alex had another guest, which is way more important, way bigger.
He had...
One of Putin's advisors and confidants and friends and a guy who's actually a philosopher and a pretty mental heavyweight.
He's a really smart guy, but he's also a close associate of Vladimir Putin.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
Alexander Dugan was a guest on the Alex Jones Show.
And that, to me, takes way bigger precedence.
This changes the game.
jordan holmes
Do you mean having a top Russian propagandist on an ostensibly American radio show?
dan friesen
Truth show.
jordan holmes
Truth show.
dan friesen
Americana.
jordan holmes
On the Infowars.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he had Alexander Dugan on, and I feel like that's all we should be talking about.
Unfortunately, it's not.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is something that heavy news organizations should be covering.
We can't handle it.
jordan holmes
Are they covering it?
dan friesen
Not yet.
Not that I've seen.
jordan holmes
Do you think they will cover it?
dan friesen
If they do, Alex will just be like, look at them still trying to say we're Russian shills.
Whilst behaving like Russian shills.
jordan holmes
Like Russian shills?
dan friesen
I have a couple clips from that interview.
jordan holmes
Using his classic technique of, I know you are, but what am I?
dan friesen
Pot kettle bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Not paw kettle.
He was a delight.
unidentified
Paw kettle?
dan friesen
Was he a racist?
jordan holmes
I have no idea.
dan friesen
I don't remember the reference.
Anyway.
I have a couple clips from the Dugan interview, and then we'll get to the business of Monday's show.
But I want to illustrate just how fucked up this interview that he did with this Russian associate of Vladimir Putin's is.
Here's the first one, Jordan.
Enjoy this insanity.
unidentified
That is the position of Putin as well.
He is not imperialist.
jordan holmes
He is not fanatic.
unidentified
He has no idea to invade no country.
alex jones
In fact, I notice how humble he is.
He's always saying America is more powerful.
Okay, you're great.
We just want our right to be here.
dan friesen
He's framing that as Putin's standpoint.
Alexander Dugan said that Putin is not imperialistic.
He does not want to invade other countries, although he pronounced it in Wade, which is fine.
He has an accent.
He's Russian.
I don't give a shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it does bring a little bit of levity to know that we've got a Star Trek character running things here.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then Alex's response is, I've noticed how humble Putin is.
jordan holmes
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
For a man who rides horses shirtless, humility does not seem like the word I would describe.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then during the interview, too, they were talking about how Russia is on the forefront of fighting globalism.
jordan holmes
Can we not just stop and then everybody listening, let's take three seconds to absorb what the fuck that was.
dan friesen
And the next clip I have is substantially worse.
jordan holmes
One, he kind of sounds like a Nazi.
dan friesen
He's Russian.
jordan holmes
He's got a mix of a German-Russian accent there.
If you listen to that clip tightly, you can definitely hear a goose step.
In the background.
dan friesen
Within his teeth.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
His goose teething.
So, during the...
jordan holmes
Heil Putin!
dan friesen
During the interview, they also discuss how Putin kicked out the oligarchs 18 years ago, and how this was a big deal.
jordan holmes
I mean, now, we do have to give him credit.
dan friesen
No, we don't.
jordan holmes
When you tear down an oligarchy and replace it with an autocratic dictatorship, you did tear down the oligarchy.
dan friesen
But from...
Most of the reports that I've read by thorough journalists, he didn't kick out oligarchs.
He just told them, I'm taking a cut.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He just came into power and was like, I want half of what you have.
And that's why Putin has $200 billion.
He didn't kick out the oligarchs.
This is all just a fabricated narrative.
jordan holmes
But as we all know from our extensive understanding of the mafia, through, let's call it the godfathers, when you do that...
When you kick out, or when you just, you know, you become the overboss.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So he's, I mean, they're not oligarchs anymore, they're just really rich dudes.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're your second bosses.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're your...
unidentified
They're made men.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
There's an Italian word for it.
dan friesen
Probably.
It bears some resemblance to what Trump will probably end up doing if he gets his way.
You know.
jordan holmes
We're...
We've all lost our minds, right?
Has anybody adequately explained yet what the fuck is going on other than people like us shouting, Flee!
unidentified
Flee!
jordan holmes
Fly, you fools!
Are we Gandalfing right now?
dan friesen
I think we are.
jordan holmes
And then we've got...
Trump is Saruman and Putin is Sauron.
We're living in the Lord of the Rings.
dan friesen
We are.
jordan holmes
Who has the one ring?
dan friesen
I don't want to be Frodo.
jordan holmes
I really don't want to be Frodo.
dan friesen
I want to just be...
Who's cool in there?
Can I be Tom Bombadil?
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Joyous Tom Bombadil wearing his pastels galloping through the woods.
Who is described as the most powerful being in Lord of the Rings, which, of course, why wouldn't he?
dan friesen
I've got a podcast.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Why do I know this much about Lord of the Rings?
Is this okay?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's fine.
It's great literature.
All right.
What was my other...
jordan holmes
I would say I want to be Boromir because he dies in the middle of...
dan friesen
And he dies a hero.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Which is fine.
The other thing is that all of these aspects of the dirty dossier are starting to come out as kind of like, uh-oh.
That looks like it might have been real.
jordan holmes
Oh, it can't not be real at this point, right?
dan friesen
Not the pea stuff, necessarily.
The salacious stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Who cares about the...
dan friesen
Some individual got 20% of Russia's state oil interest.
jordan holmes
Now, it is...
dan friesen
And that's traced back to an untraceable bank account in the Cayman Islands.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, I've heard a couple of different theories...
dan friesen
That's in the dirty dossier!
jordan holmes
I've heard a couple of different theories about billionaires from Saudi Arabia getting it, as well as somebody from...
dan friesen
Alex would not be happy about that.
jordan holmes
Somebody from Qatar.
dan friesen
But Qatar was a separate piece.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay.
Which is another great piece of literature right there.
dan friesen
Qatar is the separate piece?
jordan holmes
A separate piece.
Qatar, comma...
dan friesen
Anyway, let's not dig into the dirty dossier.
Let's get to this other clip from the Dugan interview, which I think should...
Look, I'm not saying that anyone needs to kick Alex Jones off the air.
I'm not saying we need to censor him.
But this clip is so fucked up, I don't even know...
How to set it up appropriately.
jordan holmes
Awesome.
Thanks, America.
alex jones
No, but I get your point that kind of the New Atlantis idea could merge with the British Empire and then end up taking over the world and then, say, merge it all together.
So it kind of is...
jordan holmes
Holy fuck.
alex jones
The proto-globalism is what you're saying.
dan friesen
Just to give you some context, that New Atlantis thing is Francis Bacon's idea about America being a New Atlantis, blah, blah, blah.
There's like...
It's super complicated, but that part isn't really all that nefarious.
So when he uses the term Atlantis, it's just sort of like a metaphorical piece about the beginnings of America.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so anyway, this is where it gets nefarious.
unidentified
Yes, absolutely, absolutely.
Britain's vision of the world was the root of globalization.
jordan holmes
And the United States of America...
unidentified
They opposed to this Britain domination.
They opposed.
You have opposed.
alex jones
No, they were.
And, of course, the Russian czars, I'm not saying they were perfect, but they were opposed to it, too.
And that's why they were basically taken out.
dan friesen
Also, if you...
jordan holmes
Wait, so that's why he thinks the Russian czars were taken out?
dan friesen
That's not even the fucked up part I was talking about.
jordan holmes
No, well, I mean, we're already in complete la-la fantasy land here.
dan friesen
Sure, and it gets worse.
unidentified
Yeah, great.
dan friesen
But also, I want to say, if you are unfortunate enough to listen to Infowars like I do, make note of every time that Alex says that somebody's not perfect, and you will start to see a trend that's very similar to Trump's use of quotation marks in his tweets.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Trump always wants to use a racial slur whenever he uses quotes in something.
He's like, bad, quote, dudes out there.
Or we have to stop, quote, evil from getting into the country.
Stuff like that.
He always wants to say something offensive, and the quote marks are him stopping.
Whenever Alex says, they're not perfect, it's like...
jordan holmes
And they've committed a genocide or two.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But you know what?
They're not bad hombres.
dan friesen
Which one of us is perfect?
It's that sort of bullshit.
jordan holmes
Who among us has not, at the very least, wished a genocide upon someone?
dan friesen
Also, I've been keeping track of the ear things.
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
And there's no discernible pattern yet, but twice when he's talking about drinking, he tugs his ear.
When he was talking about booze during the Super Bowl, he tugged his ear a little.
And I was like, alright, I see what you're doing.
jordan holmes
Alright, there we go.
dan friesen
Anyway, here's the fucked up.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
alexander dugin
And that is why we were friends with America, because we opposed this globalist agenda, and we affirmed the liberty, the freedom for each society to construct, to create, to build their own civilization.
alex jones
Let me ask you a question.
Would it have been better, because obviously World War II, the Nazis were bad, but if you look at World War I, the British did basically start that.
Russia helped defeat the Germans and then got betrayed.
Would have been better for history if Russia wouldn't have come in on the side of England?
unidentified
I think that is difficult to revise the historical aspect.
jordan holmes
Even the Russian propagandist is like, that shit's crazy, man.
dan friesen
I give him some credit that he's like, hold on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Do you legitimately hear what Alex just said?
jordan holmes
We all know the Nazis are bad.
Well, here's the thing that he said.
He even said that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I mean, the Nazis, look, Nazis, who hasn't...
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Committed a genocide.
We're not all perfect.
dan friesen
Every single fucking one of us has an oven in our house.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
Why else would you have one?
There's no conceivable other possibility.
dan friesen
Killing Jews and Virginia Woolf killing herself, right?
Is that her?
jordan holmes
No, that was Sylvia Plath.
dan friesen
I'm a feminist.
jordan holmes
You're thinking of Sibley Plath.
Clearly, you weren't a depressed teenager who was also a girl.
dan friesen
No, I went different directions with my depression.
I went to God.
jordan holmes
I went directly to Wiccanism.
dan friesen
I'm jealous, because all I have is a bunch of Christian ska lyrics kicking around in my head.
jordan holmes
The most dangerous of ska.
dan friesen
He's quite literally suggesting that the world might be a better place if the Nazis had won World War II.
jordan holmes
Well, here's the other thing that he slipped in there that I think we kind of glossed over.
He said Russia got betrayed.
Yeah.
unidentified
Do you know who would have betrayed Russia in this particular circumstance?
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
You're talking about Germany betraying them, right?
jordan holmes
No.
He said after the Russians defeated Germany and then got betrayed.
dan friesen
Because of globalism.
jordan holmes
That's his argument.
If you want to do that, but again, still, that idea there is that Russia was betrayed.
Instead of Russia went apeshit authoritarian government.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's basically rewriting history to saying that Churchill and FDR were bad people.
dan friesen
I think he...
jordan holmes
Were betrayers.
dan friesen
I think that Alex would probably argue that...
I don't know how he feels about Churchill, necessarily.
jordan holmes
They were tools of the globalists.
dan friesen
You'd definitely say that about FDR, yeah, for sure.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you know, Churchill still has a bust in.
Trump put a bust of Churchill in there, which boggles my mind, because I don't know if he knows who Churchill was.
dan friesen
And we're fucking, like, almost 20 days into Trump's presidency.
jordan holmes
This is the worst presidency in the history of America.
dan friesen
We're going to count it by the day.
But we're 20 days in already, and Alex still takes time on the show to complain.
About how someone claimed that Trump threw out the bust of Martin Luther King.
It was like, yeah, that was misreported.
No one really cared.
No one thought anything of it.
jordan holmes
Also, no one would be surprised.
I think that's why...
So there is a lot of fake news now being shared amongst the left.
But the problem with news about Trump is there's nothing that you wouldn't believe at this point.
You could literally spin any lie and it has the ring of plausibility.
Because Trump is fucking insane.
dan friesen
They're so close.
jordan holmes
They're so close.
I want to make fun of Trump, but I can't go far enough outside of the realm of possibility to make it absurd.
dan friesen
You want to say he's a bad dude.
He's a guy who wants to fuck his daughter.
It's like, well, he's kind of said that.
jordan holmes
He's kind of said that.
dan friesen
He beats his wife.
She's kind of said he did.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He's raped his wife.
dan friesen
She testified that he walked that back.
jordan holmes
Sure.
In that deposition, I'm sure you can walk that shit back.
Or he's being blackmailed by Russia with the dirty dossier.
dan friesen
Which...
Less and less dirty by the day.
jordan holmes
We can't stop saying it.
It's so great.
But even if there's no pee story, which we can all believe that, who gives a shit, though?
A man wants to get peed on.
dan friesen
That's window dressing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
But any other president, and you're like, that's crazy, guys.
There's no way anybody is blackmailing the president.
He's blackmailing!
Blackmailing the president!
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's hard to believe literally any other situation.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, we can't say that with absolute certainty, but boy.
jordan holmes
Boy, does it sound like he's blackmailing the president.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, I mean, we're in a real fucked up time, but hey, it's time to get to Monday.
We're going to have some fun with this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We got that Dugan out of the way.
jordan holmes
We got the horrifying, monstrous reality out of the way.
dan friesen
Before I get to this, I didn't pull the clip because it's from boring-ass David Knight, but he takes over at the end of the show.
And he accidentally lets slip that it's not so much about Muslims and terrorism.
The great enemy is the UN.
jordan holmes
Oh, great.
dan friesen
He has a little slip of the tongue, and if he wasn't so boring, I would play it here.
But he sucks.
So let's get to it.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Go ahead.
jordan holmes
One last thing about the whole Russian thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If I was going to put together an idea of what their plan is...
Russia's plan.
Well, Putin's plan.
Russia's not a person.
unidentified
No, no.
jordan holmes
Fine, fine.
Here's what I would say I'm seeing as their plan.
They are trying to demolish all of the United Nations.
All the groups.
The EU, the UK.
Whether or not they're going to do anything but turn America into either a non-issue for them or somehow they're lackey.
The main goal there is whenever they separate everybody else, then finally they can actually get their economy going.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because right now Russia has no economy.
dan friesen
Because...
They keep fucking with people and we've set sanctions.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
So they do that.
That keeps them from being beholden to the sanctions of the United States.
dan friesen
Yep.
Or the sanctions are just life dead.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, and God knows that's probably going to happen here soon.
dan friesen
Boy, howdy.
jordan holmes
Somehow John McCain is the least worst person on the sanctions right now.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
So then that gives them open trading with all of these other nations who otherwise wouldn't trade with them.
dan friesen
And they have massive oil reserves.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
They could really bolster their economy back up.
And then take back countries.
jordan holmes
Whenever they get that, they are going to do the Ukraine to all the things.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
That's what they're doing.
dan friesen
Probably the entire old Soviet Union.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're trying to rebuild that.
Or at least that's Putin's main goal.
dan friesen
It does seem like actions have indicated that.
jordan holmes
So that's my theory as to what's happening.
dan friesen
I think that's a strong theory, but we're not here to be a speculative show.
We're not here to make guesses.
We're here to laugh.
unidentified
And mock Alex Jones being stupid as fuck.
dan friesen
So, keep in mind, Alex Jones is a policy wonk.
Now keep that in mind for the rest of time.
jordan holmes
For the rest of time.
dan friesen
Alex starts this show off by explaining that he is fucking sickened by something he's read.
jordan holmes
Oh no!
dan friesen
He's fucking so disgusted.
jordan holmes
I'm surprised both by the fact that he's read something and...
Wait, no, that's the only thing I'm surprised by.
dan friesen
Well, you might not be surprised to learn that he maybe didn't read it.
alex jones
You know, I've got news here in front of me that I started reading about last night that physically made me sick.
And it makes me sick that my fellow humans are this nasty, this conniving, this evil, and they've come up with plans like this.
dan friesen
Do you want to try and guess what the plans are?
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
unidentified
They make Alex physically sick.
This evil, he's physically sick.
jordan holmes
Polonium poisoning everybody in the planet.
dan friesen
Okay, that's an interesting guess.
alex jones
Where I live, here in Austin, Texas, has been studied and actuaried and looked at.
For more than 25 years as the global model city of the future.
dan friesen
First of all, I'm not sure why you're mad about that.
jordan holmes
I don't understand why he sounds so angry about that.
dan friesen
People being like, your city is awesome.
jordan holmes
People have been telling me for 25 years that this city...
Is an amazing place to live.
dan friesen
And it's going to be whatever place it's like in the future.
jordan holmes
I love living here.
And that sickens me.
dan friesen
Well, because it's occupied.
jordan holmes
It sickens me that this place is so enjoyable to live in.
dan friesen
Let's see if he can explain it a little better than just your city is awesome.
alex jones
And when you actually read what they say they're going to do under Agenda 21 and you realize it's only being done in one Chinese city, One Japanese city, one German city, and one U.S. city.
And you read what they're...
jordan holmes
Somebody just pop open a cold one?
dan friesen
That was me.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
unidentified
That was me.
dan friesen
I want to be clear.
I didn't realize that would pick up on the mics, but that was me when I was editing the clips.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I had an energy drink.
It wasn't a beer.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
That sounds like I'm being Alex.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Which it legitimately was.
I'm drinking wine right now.
jordan holmes
He looks pretty amped.
alex jones
Doing and what they've got planned.
It is so horrible that it just makes me want to cry.
It's so premeditated, so obvious, so documented, so arrogant, so naked, so terrible that I don't even want to sit here and talk about it.
And not give it the true justice of making a 30-minute special report documenting every facet of it.
jordan holmes
He's on minute six of talking about it, and he just got to the, I don't even want to talk about this.
Usually he starts with, I don't want to talk about this, and then gets into it.
But, oh man, this is fucking nuts.
What is going to happen here?
unidentified
He is really ramping up the suspense.
jordan holmes
Is there going to be an M. Night Shyamalan twist here?
What's going on?
dan friesen
Listen, I don't want to spoil anything, but no.
alex jones
As fast as I can research, it's so big, it's so old, it's so planned, that it just goes on and on and on and on.
unidentified
Worse and worse and worse and worse.
alex jones
Then you find out how many people are involved in it.
And then you realize about half the people fleeing San Francisco and Los Angeles to come to Austin aren't useful group idiots that are leaving the system that failed that they helped bring down.
They know it's all a big scam and are coming here to collude with it, to collaborate with it, and to help suck everything dry and rip everybody off and then move on in 20, 30 years.
They even train their kids how to do it.
That's why I used to go to these smart growth conferences and agenda 21 conferences and I'd say, this is a giant scam.
You're raising rents and you're hurting people and you're creating monopolies and they would just go, get out of my way, scum.
Of course we are.
Listen to this one.
Tell us something we don't know.
jordan holmes
That's a Doctor Who monster.
alex jones
And they're just all in there in these frenzied meetings, just lobbying the city at the convention center, just like all laughing and cackling and just rubbing their hands together to collude and rob everybody.
jordan holmes
Is this going to be a Comic-Con or something?
alex jones
What am I talking about?
Well, it ties into how world leaders were duped.
What are you talking about?
Oh, the leaders didn't know they were duped.
unidentified
No, ladies and gentlemen.
alex jones
That's not what I'm getting into.
Nico, I think I actually gave you my stack on that.
jordan holmes
He had fucking nothing!
He had nothing!
He had fucking nothing!
That was bullshit!
That was nothing!
He just described how evil nothing was!
unidentified
What is going on?
dan friesen
It literally could be anything.
jordan holmes
It could have been anything.
One Chinese city, one Japanese city, one German city, and one U.S. city.
Now we can assume the U.S. city is Austin.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
Let's go with what Chinese city do you want to go with?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Shanghai?
jordan holmes
Let's go with Shanghai.
That was my first thought as well.
Because you can't pick Beijing.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That doesn't jive with the Austin.
dan friesen
Maybe it's in Hong Kong.
jordan holmes
It could be in Hong Kong.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
No.
Hong Kong is...
dan friesen
So Germany, we go Munich.
jordan holmes
Munich, yeah, for sure.
dan friesen
Dusseldorf, maybe, just to be fun.
jordan holmes
Dusseldorf is fun to say.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Let's go with the D-Dorf, which is where we landed on Normandy Beach.
dan friesen
Sad day.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is a rough one.
Rough one for the Dorf on Gulf as well.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Dusseldorf on Gulf.
jordan holmes
Japan.
Are there cities in Japan?
Sure.
Isn't Japan just one big Tokyo?
dan friesen
Yeah, basically.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's go with that.
What is he fucking talking about?
dan friesen
Agenda 21, baby.
jordan holmes
What is Agenda 21?
dan friesen
You don't know about Agenda 21?
jordan holmes
I assume it's the order that Anakin needs to take out all the younglings?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
You actually don't know about Agenda 21?
I don't know about Agenda 21. It's one of the most thoroughly debunked, wacky conspiracy theories that's been lingering since the 90s.
jordan holmes
Is it making everybody physically ill?
dan friesen
It makes Alex physically ill.
So how it started, I don't want to give a whole primer on this, but if you want to look into it, you can Google and find all this stuff out.
jordan holmes
Beware, that's how they get you into Agenda 21. You know that, right?
dan friesen
It's not.
Look for facts.
jordan holmes
It's not debunked.
That's how you join.
dan friesen
So Agenda 21 was a paper put out by the UN about sustainability and growth in the 90s.
And it had to do with third world countries and basically rising people out of poverty, protecting the environment, stuff like that.
It was completely non-binding, 100% voluntary, and there's no dictates set out by it.
It's mostly just about like...
Ideas.
jordan holmes
Hey, this is a good idea.
Maybe try this one out.
dan friesen
I think it was 178 countries voluntarily signed on when it first came out, and people have been really mad ever since.
It basically has to do...
jordan holmes
Is it just that any time a bunch of countries are like, hey, this is a good idea, somebody has to be a dick about it?
dan friesen
Well, I found this guy who was researching it had a really good quote about it that explained the...
Sort of the anger at it.
jordan holmes
Was the quote, Alex Jones is full of shit?
dan friesen
Yeah.
This guy, Michael Barkun, he's a Syracuse University political scientist and scholar of conspiracy theories.
He was quoted as saying, anytime you get some sort of UN program that suggests any kind of change in the way people live, even if it seems outwardly benign and even voluntary, it's going to be taken up by people with a conspiracy bent.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's pretty much, yeah.
I nailed it.
That's right on the head.
dan friesen
So Alex and a lot of people believe that Agenda 21, what's going to happen is under the auspices of environmental protection and under the auspices of trying to help the poor, everyone is going to be pushed into cities that are super compact.
Everyone's going to be living in basically closet apartments.
It's nonsense.
It's absolute nonsense.
Agenda 21 sounds scary.
Because of the name?
jordan holmes
Because it's called Agenda 21. Like I said, that's the order that Anakin needed to kill all the Jedi.
dan friesen
It's basically the idea of a plan to make the 21st century better than the last century.
unidentified
That's why it's called 21. Why can't they name shit Not Scary?
jordan holmes
Couldn't they have just named it Good Ideas for People to Try?
dan friesen
That would be awesome.
jordan holmes
That would have been so great!
There's no way that you can misconstrue good ideas that people should try.
dan friesen
Hey guys, this is non-binding 21. Or something along those lines.
Hey, we're not going to force you to do this.
jordan holmes
Calling it Agenda 21, do these people naming things not hear the voice of, oh, that means murder?
dan friesen
I think back in, it was 92 when it was...
jordan holmes
Saved by the Bell was the number one sitcom.
dan friesen
It was the salad days of our lives, the halcyon days.
jordan holmes
T-G-I-F.
dan friesen
All day, all night.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Tim Allen, he did the grunting.
dan friesen
But I think back then, people didn't have the same crazies.
We didn't have the same people who were out there making everything evil.
So I don't think necessarily people calling something Agenda 21, people would think, oh, this is going to sound evil to somebody.
I think it just kind of sounded catchy.
21st century Agenda for the 21st century.
jordan holmes
Could it just call Agenda...
No, it's a bad name.
unidentified
It's a bad name.
jordan holmes
The UN is bad at naming things.
Good at good ideas.
Bad at naming things.
dan friesen
Also good at coming up with things that countries can choose to follow or not.
jordan holmes
They're great at that.
And the answer is almost always, or not.
dan friesen
I've looked into this one pretty extensively and given it a score of two thumbs down.
Big two thumbs down on this being a legitimate conspiracy theory.
jordan holmes
We're the Siskel and Ebert of conspiracy theories now.
dan friesen
I was going to say two flaccid dicks.
Two flaccid conspiracy dicks.
jordan holmes
Two flaccid conspiracy dicks.
unidentified
Two Gamergate posts on Reddit.
dan friesen
But it makes Alex sick.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
What makes him sick?
What makes him mad is that there's something that he feels is Agenda 21 in Austin called Code Next.
unidentified
God.
jordan holmes
Fucking damn it.
dan friesen
Who named that?
Another slightly evil name.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Why do people name things bad?
dan friesen
I did a little bit of research into Code Next, and a lot of the wording is really weird, because I don't even remember any of the words, but sort of vague words.
But it has to do with the same stuff.
It has to do with environmental protections.
jordan holmes
They've got to learn about dirty dossier and alliteration and the like.
dan friesen
Digital Dropbox.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Once they get that down, all these names are going to go right through the roof.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It makes sense that Alex would be scared of it because he's scared of everything.
jordan holmes
Except for, apparently, Russia.
dan friesen
Apparently he's totally cool with that.
jordan holmes
Apparently he's totally cool with people who, look, they're not the greatest guys.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, actually, I've done a little bit of trying to be empathic and empathetic.
And what I've realized is if you don't think that climate change is real, then people trying to push for things to protect against climate change, obviously you would think that they were up to no good.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
So that kind of makes sense if you believe his premise.
But his premise is horribly flawed.
jordan holmes
Do you mean non-existent?
Like that eight and a half minute clip where he had nothing to fucking say?
dan friesen
Nothing.
jordan holmes
Zero!
dan friesen
Everyone's involved.
jordan holmes
We're involved now.
Yeah, you gotta give him credit for really eating up time when he needs to.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then getting to...
jordan holmes
Where are these papers?
Look, we're going to actually go to the break this time.
I'm not going to skip the break.
I just wanted to make you guys know I was disgusted.
dan friesen
So this next clip has to do with Goldman Sachs bankers being in Trump's administration.
jordan holmes
The ones who run everything now?
dan friesen
He has really great points about how he knows everything about these Goldman Sachs bankers, but he does not remember one of their names, which is a little bit dumb.
alex jones
How do you feel now?
unidentified
He's got a bunch of Goldman Sachs people!
alex jones
And as I always said, well, let's go look at Bannon and Mnuchin and one of the other people.
All of them have been against globalism.
jordan holmes
One of the other ones.
alex jones
All of them have tried to expand cheaper housing.
All of them have tried to have fairer trade deals here in the United States.
And all of them were on the inside at the highest levels and watched it happening and for decades have been speaking out against it.
jordan holmes
One half of that is true.
The second part, not true.
dan friesen
Which is the second part?
jordan holmes
The first part where they've all been involved for years and years and years.
Totally true.
Speaking out against it.
Totally not true.
dan friesen
Alex claiming that I know all about these guys.
The third guy.
jordan holmes
And the third guy.
dan friesen
That's a bad look.
jordan holmes
Lions, Tigers, and what were they again?
Oh my.
dan friesen
That's Rick Perry not remembering the agencies he wants to demolish.
jordan holmes
The agency he runs now?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That one that he hates so much?
dan friesen
The one that he realized is super important.
jordan holmes
Let's get rid of it!
Oh, I don't want this.
Oh, it's in charge of nuclear weapons?
Oh no.
unidentified
Oh no.
jordan holmes
Everybody that's so far...
Everybody that's been hired for everything has had a complete look of shock the moment they found out what it is they're supposed to do.
dan friesen
Right, but you know why that is?
Because the people who are in charge and putting them in charge of those agencies want incompetence.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Because then that gives them the reason to privatize it and get it out of government entirely.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
That way you think, oh no, it's that government is wrong instead of, oh, we hired fucking morons!
dan friesen
Yep.
So enjoy that in the next decade to come.
jordan holmes
Can't we...
And then redact the next 10, 15 sentences that I say?
And I say, please no.
Please no!
dan friesen
The other thing that I think is really unfortunate about that clip is he's talking about trying to get people cheaper housing.
And Steve Mnuchin...
In particular, was pretty heavily implicated in some really shady housing business.
jordan holmes
Now, he did try to give people cheaper housing.
He just failed miserably at it and then stole all of their money along the way.
It was pretty much the most you can fail at.
If his goal was to get people cheaper housing and not steal all of their money, man, he did a really bad job.
dan friesen
Yeah, it was like back in the day, I remember I saw a clip.
I was really high one day and I saw a clip of this...
This daredevil.
And his name was Death Wish Dan.
Yes!
jordan holmes
Now that is some fucking great naming right there.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
Because if he has a Death Wish, he's fucking terrible at it.
He's screwing up every time.
jordan holmes
You're mad at his...
dan friesen
I was high.
jordan holmes
Okay, fair enough.
unidentified
Anyway.
jordan holmes
You're mad that his nickname is like Tiny for a giant dude?
dan friesen
Exactly, exactly.
I'm like, come on, man.
Get your shit right.
This next clip is...
Okay, so it starts with a lie about George Soros, and then it ends with...
jordan holmes
The bread and butter of the Infowars.
dan friesen
This clip is a little bit longer, but it needs to be listened to, and we can pause at any point, but I think it might document a slight psychotic break on Alex's point.
So it's worth it, but...
jordan holmes
Instead of just a borderline Alzheimer's stroke there where he just rambles about how sick things are and then forgets what it is.
dan friesen
Yeah, I will pause it after the George Soros lie just to explain, but then we're going to get into a fucking wacky fantasy.
jordan holmes
Yay!
alex jones
But here are the headlines.
Goldman Sachs' Trump rally has been curbed.
Bloomberg!
Goldman Sachs economists are starting to worry about President Trump.
Yes, Bloomberg's putting all the bad news out now.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
alex jones
Time to sell the dollar on erratic Trump policies.
J.P. Morgan, they're all putting out the line.
Because you know what got leaked last week by good intelligence agencies was that George Soros is basically naked shorting the dollar and the pound.
To punish us, to get us back under global government.
And so, of course, we can't have him go bankrupt.
We've got to have J.P. Morgan and Bloomberg and Goldman Sachs all come out against America and England.
They're doing that, too.
jordan holmes
No, we already talked about how he thinks George Soros shorting things means that he's evil.
dan friesen
Yeah, but also, I mean, beyond that...
Inaccuracy.
There's also just the lie that it came out from good intelligence agencies that George Soros is shorting the dollar.
What he's referring to is what we talked about on a past show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like Bloomberg.
dan friesen
No, that financial organization accidentally posted everyone's shorts online when they weren't supposed to.
They posted those short bets.
He didn't short against the dollar or the pound.
It was a German bank, the Deutsche Bank, and that Dutch bank, ING.
Those were the shorts that came out.
He's absolutely lying.
And then saying that it comes from good intelligence services is lying about the sourcing of it.
It's absolute wacky bullshit.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, technically, if it was leaked and it is accurate, those are good intelligence sources.
So, in a technical way...
dan friesen
The person who posted it came out and apologized said it was an accident.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
Probably should have gotten shit-canned.
jordan holmes
Probably.
Unless he was working for...
dan friesen
The Patriots?
jordan holmes
The Patriots.
dan friesen
And not the football team.
jordan holmes
And not the football team.
They didn't need any help.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
They had their own leak in the fourth quarter of the football.
With the air.
You remember that one.
dan friesen
I have no position on that, but...
Alex will talk about that eventually.
I bet Alex does, yeah.
So, I mean, that's just crazy.
jordan holmes
That's fucking nuts.
dan friesen
The articles that he's posting are about speculation that it's possibly time to get worried about our currency because of Trump's erratic behavior.
It's not saying, hey, everyone, sell your shit.
It's saying that this could be dangerous times ahead.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And any responsible financial advisor would probably...
Without, like, getting panicky, tell you, like, all right, this is something to keep an eye on.
jordan holmes
Aha!
See, they don't have to do that anymore now that the fiduciary rule has been gotten rid of.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
So your financial advisor can flat-out lie to you for their own gain.
So why would you have a responsible financial advisor?
That guy's broke.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, he's a fucking douche because he knows things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
That's against the law in Trump's America.
dan friesen
Well, integrity can't be profitable anymore.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Was it?
Was it ever?
dan friesen
Let's enjoy this psychotic break.
jordan holmes
Let's enjoy!
alex jones
And all together, naked short, our currency and our stock market to destroy it.
dan friesen
Thank you!
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
Oh, because I forgot.
Because Trump works for you, right?
He's doing what you want.
No, he's doing the opposite.
And I'm almost convinced the average American doesn't even deserve Trump.
I'm serious.
jordan holmes
You're right!
alex jones
They just want to fantasize how they're on the winning team, and if the media says you're on the winning team by destroying Trump, well, God forbid he's trying to give you a life raft in the middle of the frozen Arctic Ocean.
God forbid he gives you a space eater or some food.
God forbid he actually not be out to get you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what did we do to deserve Trump?
dan friesen
Well, he meant it the other way.
jordan holmes
I know, but let's entertain that notion.
Did we have a national sin other than the torture, the invading all the terrible countries?
dan friesen
All of our history.
jordan holmes
All of the American history.
You know, slavery, racism.
Oh no, we have this coming.
dan friesen
You could make a really compelling argument for karma.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
This is karma.
dan friesen
It doesn't work karmatically though, if that's the right way to phrase that.
It doesn't work karmically because...
jordan holmes
There we go.
Karmatically is a really good restaurant.
dan friesen
The people who are going to be most hurt are the people we've hurt in the past.
You know, like, Trump coming into power is only going to hurt the people who deserve retribution.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, well...
dan friesen
It's going to be like a grindhouse film, but where the victim is also the one who gets killed again.
Or something like that.
jordan holmes
The victim kills themselves.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's a grindhouse film of nothing but suicides.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
This Trump fantasy goes far, far deeper than this, though.
alex jones
Because after all, you don't deserve that like the elites have told me, because the public is a bunch of scum, Alex.
And they're evil.
And they inherently want to be hurt.
Alex, you'll never be in a bad position because you're smart.
You're one of us.
You'll learn, Alex.
One day you'll come and work for us.
One day.
That's why we're going to let you live.
Well, guess what?
Trump doesn't want to be part of this either.
And I will never be part of screwing everyone over.
Because let me tell you, a big percentage of people do care.
And they know the truth.
And they're as upset about this as I am.
And together, we're going to beat you.
You understand that?
I don't care what you turn the public into or if 80% of them act like animals.
I'm not lowering your level and feeding on them.
I'm not a cannibal.
Bloomberg, sworn to break up your family, sworn to get your gun, admitted technocrat who brags in profiles that he wants to run every fast of your life and have you live in a 225 square foot coffin apartment with everything you do surveilled and no more families and total control.
jordan holmes
That's a big coffin.
alex jones
He is a monster.
He says he wants to decide what you're going to eat.
unidentified
He calls himself the great technocrat.
alex jones
He made tens of billions of dollars extra just the last few years because he's wired into all the high-frequency trading and all the grids and all the smart meters and everything.
He wrote the systems with the NSA that literally control you and game you.
jordan holmes
Was the great technocrat in the Flintstones whenever that went?
It's the great gazoo.
Oh, it's the great gazoo.
That was the jump the shark moment for them?
dan friesen
He flashes up like a Time magazine article that's called the great technocrat.
He doesn't call himself that.
That was an article.
jordan holmes
No, yeah.
dan friesen
It's a title of an article.
jordan holmes
He calls himself the great technocrat.
dan friesen
Also, I don't fucking know how Michael Bloomberg is going to decide what I eat.
unidentified
Also, that sounds like a huge responsibility for someone.
To decide what I'm going to wear and what everyone's going to eat.
jordan holmes
You know, on some days, looking at the cereal aisle and trying to figure out what cereal to buy, I just wish Bloomberg had the answer for me.
dan friesen
You've got to get the Bloomberg app.
jordan holmes
Can we get a call into Bloomberg right now?
dan friesen
You've got to get the Bloomberg app.
jordan holmes
Is there an app?
dan friesen
Yeah, it just tells you what to eat.
He's a technocrat.
jordan holmes
He's a technocrat.
He's the great technocrat.
dan friesen
This fantasy goes deeper.
alex jones
And so if Microsoft wants a system to game you or Amazon wants one or Alibaba, they've got to go to him because he's given all the advanced technology as the little high priest.
They've decided to manage it, to screw you over.
Man, he makes me sick.
And then he's got all the little trendies loving it because in all these publications and in little announcements, you won.
jordan holmes
All the little trendies.
dan friesen
Also, unfortunately, we're trendies.
jordan holmes
Is that a nickname?
dan friesen
It's a pejorative term for people who he thinks are, like, idiots.
It's like he doesn't want to say...
jordan holmes
Trendies?
dan friesen
He doesn't want to say sheeple, so he says trendies.
jordan holmes
Trendies.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, because whatever is...
jordan holmes
Because we follow the trends?
dan friesen
Whatever is the, like, cool...
jordan holmes
Because we don't fight against the coming tide of globalism.
dan friesen
Whatever is the cool social outrage trend, you're going to be tricked by, you goddamn trendy.
jordan holmes
Um, that could be possible.
unidentified
And you're just fed MSM lies.
jordan holmes
That's also possible.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't watch the mainstream media either.
jordan holmes
You just watch InfoWars, which is why I'm starting to worry about you.
You texted me eight different conspiracy theories about what's going on behind Alex Jones' show.
dan friesen
I did not.
jordan holmes
This is bleeding into your thinking.
dan friesen
I did not.
I did not.
What I said is I'm starting to suspect that possibly Roger Stone is pulling the strings.
That's all.
I didn't say it was true.
I said it's possible.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Anyway.
alex jones
You're a winner.
You're part of the winning team.
You live in downtown Austin.
You're under the smart meters.
Yeah.
You don't have kids.
Yeah.
You don't have a yard.
Yeah.
We DNA test your dog's poop to make sure you're not letting your dog poop outside.
But that's not a surveillance grid.
That's not beyond Big Brother or Brave New World.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
You're down with it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
You're traveling to another dimension.
It's called a G21.
It's called Code Next.
Which is next code for the next download, your next directive in the Borg assimilation into a system where you're assimilated to be destroyed.
The end of humanity openly announced, the end of man.
Why the future doesn't need us?
Hundreds of books, thousands of white papers I read 20 years ago, and now I'm watching it happen.
I'm living it.
And I go down and there's people with huge mustaches and a pink sock and a green sock dancing with pot bellies.
And they go, screw you, Alex.
Ah, we don't care.
And I'm like, it's a master plan to take you down.
I think your mustache is cool, actually.
I think your green and red sock is cool.
But listen, you're not individual by being screwed over by this and by believing that this is how you're cool.
jordan holmes
He's talking about elves!
He's talking about elves!
dan friesen
Cool mustaches, a green and a red sock, or a pink sock.
It changed colors.
jordan holmes
Pink bellies?
What is happening?
dan friesen
They have pop bellies, and they're dancing around.
jordan holmes
Pop bellies, and they're dancing around.
dan friesen
But that's what I'm talking about.
jordan holmes
He's literally talking about Tom Bombadil.
We've come full circle here.
dan friesen
We have Ouroboros this thing.
unidentified
What is going on?
dan friesen
This is that psychotic break.
He's imagining a person who's taunting him.
In the same way, earlier in this, he was imagining some guy at this Agenda 21 conference who was like, We're good to take everyone's money.
I know he's using creative license to some extent.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, he did use the movie phone voice there.
Or the Dan LaFontaine voice.
dan friesen
But that's just him being like, I'm fucking serious.
alex jones
In a world where...
jordan holmes
Borg is a thing.
dan friesen
And Tom Bombadil taunts me.
jordan holmes
Have you seen Star Trek?
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I remember the Borg from Star Trek.
dan friesen
Let's get to the end of this fantasy because there's still a little bit more.
But the real punchline is definitely the, you got this big mustache.
Hey man, I think your mustache is cool.
I think your mustache is cool.
jordan holmes
Hey man, I like mustaches.
But I'm not going to believe you guys.
alex jones
And all your friends run around and wave your arms.
But everybody goes home alone at night because there is no family.
None of it's real.
You're living a simulation.
You're living a fraud.
If sports is a primitive form of virtual reality, it's real reality but based in a controlled confine where the outcome won't affect the true power structure.
And now they're extrapolating it out to VR and in total systems that remove you from reality.
And I could see that myself by studying it, but then I go read their own white papers and they're giggling and laughing about it.
jordan holmes
It is kind of funny.
alex jones
While they're building armored fortresses in jungle mountain keeps from Tasmania to Kauai.
jordan holmes
He's seen one James Bond movie!
dan friesen
No, and he's also saying from Tasmania to Kauai.
He's just talking about Peter Thiel and Mark Zuckerberg.
He's not, I mean, it's not like he has...
jordan holmes
Well, Peter Thiel's evil.
dan friesen
But he's not saying, he doesn't have information on a great swath of elites moving to jungle fortresses.
There were just two people who announced that they were creating, like, vacation homes.
jordan holmes
But if you're going, you know, you know how rich people work.
You know, one guy gets a jungle mountain fortress, and then it's like, well, I gotta get an even better jungle mountain fortress.
And then eventually, they're clearly fighting each other from jungle mountain fortresses as the rest of the world burns, especially Austin, because do you know where they hide their lies?
dan friesen
Austin.
jordan holmes
They're mustaches.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
unidentified
See?
jordan holmes
Now, that's why he's getting them first.
You know, like, hey, I like your mustache.
And then tickles it.
That's where the lies come out.
dan friesen
If you tickle it, it falls out.
jordan holmes
If you tickle a mustache.
unidentified
It's the only way to get a lie on the mustache.
dan friesen
All right.
unidentified
That's as believable as Agenda 21. Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So, we got this introduced a little bit at the end of the last clip.
But now, Alex really wants to get into how sports are a conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I promise, we're going to get to Milo.
jordan holmes
His idea of primitive virtual reality is just games.
Games?
dan friesen
Games.
jordan holmes
Just games.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, no.
Nope.
dan friesen
To some extent.
I mean, think about role-playing games and stuff like that.
That's kind of like you're creating a false reality to live in for a while.
unidentified
Yeah, I guess, but I don't know.
jordan holmes
I think I'm going to go with no.
I think I'm going to go with no.
dan friesen
Maybe Alex will be able to change your mind.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
I haven't even gotten to all this yet today, but after he leaves us, Super Bowl viewers see correlation between outcome and election.
I love it.
They created all these sports that are really for children to get men to be in a rest of development and never make anything of themselves in life.
It's also an alternate career that doesn't threaten the elite.
Oh no, we don't want some of the most dominant, aggressive men in politics or life, or even the military.
We want you to go to college so you can hope to be in one of these myriad sports teams.
Even though it's like one out of 10,000, you'll ever make a living at it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Show that by the time you figure out you've had your life destroyed, all you can do is be a coach at age 30. And by the way, the modern guy in France that created the new Olympics wrote books admitting all this as a way to control the public.
And Hitler picked up on it as well and did the first big Olympics in 36. Name one fucking book.
A lot of folks are addicted to video games or sports.
Oh, shut up, Alex.
Hey, listen.
unidentified
I'm just telling you, it's meant to take your life off.
Now, again, I agree with this first part.
jordan holmes
We don't want the most aggressive men in politics or in the military.
They're going to do aggressive man shit.
dan friesen
If they have excess testosterone, they're going to not be reasonable.
jordan holmes
I don't know if you've ever read all of history.
The human one.
dan friesen
I've read about a third of it.
jordan holmes
The most aggressive men?
They're not on the right side of history.
Ever.
dan friesen
They're often pretty bad dudes.
jordan holmes
They're usually bad dudes.
dan friesen
But the idea that sports was created to keep aggressive people out of politics is wacky.
jordan holmes
That is wacky.
dan friesen
And then the idea, too, that it's intentional so that once you realize it's all a trap, you have to become a coach.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, I mean, or you could take that college degree you earned and...
Do something with it.
dan friesen
I've also known a number of coaches who are pretty fucking happy with being a coach.
jordan holmes
I think it would be fun.
dan friesen
It's a good way to get people to exercise.
It's a good way to try and import good messages to kids about team building, about caring about making it, you know, working with others, that sort of thing.
jordan holmes
It's actually a very valuable tool to curb male aggression and keep them out of politics.
dan friesen
He gets back into sports a little bit later with some even sillier theories, but now it is time.
To get to the Milo interview.
jordan holmes
Yes!
As I told you, whenever we walked in, I brought an Italian wine to celebrate us discussing fascism.
dan friesen
And we're almost done with that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I have a bottle of Moscato because we don't deserve good things.
jordan holmes
We deserve Trump.
dan friesen
This interview, I really didn't know how to cut it up into separate clips.
jordan holmes
So we'll just pause in and out.
dan friesen
It's about a 10-minute interview that he does, and there's a couple of important things that I want to point out, but at any point, let me know and I'll pause it.
Also, it starts with Alex saying that he's not going to announce what he and Milo have planned, and at the end of the clip, he straight up just announces what they have planned.
jordan holmes
Yes, of course.
In true Alex Jonesian fashion.
dan friesen
So, no...
I don't know.
I was trying to give some sort of a setup, but...
jordan holmes
It's an interview with Milo.
Get ready to hear some shit.
alex jones
Milo and I are also planning something on the street in the next few weeks that's exciting.
We won't tell you about that until right before because of obviously the enemies that are out there.
jordan holmes
It's chalk art!
alex jones
Milo, congratulations.
Really pointing out how the First Amendment is really under attack.
milo yiannopolis
Well, thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you for having me.
milo yiannopolis
How are you, darling?
Yeah, I love your introduction music, by the way.
It's all very dramatic.
It feels like we're in an episode of 300 or something.
jordan holmes
I've never actually heard Milo speak before.
dan friesen
You haven't?
jordan holmes
No, I've never heard him talk.
I've fastidiously avoided his nonsense.
dan friesen
Well, I'm sorry to bring this into your life.
jordan holmes
You have just forced this.
dan friesen
He's a wild, fast-talking British prick.
He talks really fast and is really good at speaking to try and mask wild inaccuracies and total bullshit.
jordan holmes
Awesome.
Now, that's going to make it hard for me to interrupt him.
dan friesen
No, not really.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
But any interview that he does is largely rhetorical bullying.
So any interviewer...
jordan holmes
So he's like a worse Christopher Hitchens.
dan friesen
Somewhat, yes.
And gayer.
Which isn't...
That's not a downside at all.
It's super cool.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I read Hitchens' memoir.
He had some gay shit.
dan friesen
He liked to fuck around?
jordan holmes
He had some gay shit.
dan friesen
Good for you, Hitchens.
jordan holmes
Good for him, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, here we go.
unidentified
Wonderful.
milo yiannopolis
No, I've been having so much fun on the college tour, right up until, I guess, you know, the West Coast.
And then UC Davis, UW Seattle, UC Berkeley, things went dark.
And we had the paid, black-clothed anarchists, you know, these well-organized, well-funded anarchists.
jordan holmes
Yep, anarchists are always well-funded.
milo yiannopolis
And causing mayhem.
And the progressive left refuses to disavow it, refuses to say, this is terrible, that people should be allowed to express their views, no matter what their views are.
dan friesen
So, his framing of this, like everything was going well until the West Coast, I mean, that's not entirely accurate, unless what he wants to say is that when he was at...
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee when he outed a trans student and knocked the shit out of her.
jordan holmes
Is that because he's a monster?
dan friesen
Yeah, kind of.
jordan holmes
It's because he's a monster, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, she came out and gave an account of the experience of being there.
She had no idea.
That he was going to project a picture of her.
jordan holmes
Holy shit!
dan friesen
From years before, when she was early in her transition.
jordan holmes
What the fuck?
dan friesen
Called her a tranny.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
Got everyone to, like he was mocking her, got everyone laughing at her.
jordan holmes
What the fuck?
dan friesen
She was in the crowd.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
And was terrified.
jordan holmes
Of course!
dan friesen
One of the quotes.
jordan holmes
What the fuck?
dan friesen
One of the quotes about her transition was, the way you know he's failed is I could still bang him.
jordan holmes
What the fuck?
dan friesen
That kind of speech is so fucking inappropriate.
jordan holmes
That's the worst...
What?
He did that in public?
dan friesen
He did that.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
And got paid.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Got paid.
jordan holmes
Why?
Free speech.
Why did he do it?
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
Why?
jordan holmes
Is there a reason why?
unidentified
Does he...
dan friesen
Money.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but you can't...
They can't have paid him specifically to...
They paid him to do his bullshit.
dan friesen
No, but this sort of thing gets him a bigger reputation.
Well, she was a student activist.
And she was against positions that he...
Or she was against positions he was for.
And he deemed her an enemy and decided to basically dox her on stage.
And I know it's not the same as doxing someone online, but it's so inappropriate.
jordan holmes
That's the fucking cruelest thing I can...
That is...
That is Carrie-level cruelty.
If she had psychic powers, everyone in that room should be fucking dead.
dan friesen
Yeah.
If, like, legitimately, if...
She had killed herself after that?
No one would be surprised.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
And I can't imagine a room full of people laughing at me.
They don't know I'm in the room while a charismatic speaker is mocking me on stage.
jordan holmes
That's un-fucking-believable.
dan friesen
For my identity and for something that has been difficult for me growing up.
That sort of thing is...
We talk about what evil actually is.
That's evil.
jordan holmes
That is fucking cruel.
That's the cruelest fucking...
That's childish fucking cruel.
Is he an eight-year-old?
dan friesen
And keep in mind that this is someone who's still in college.
jordan holmes
Who's...
unidentified
But could you get more punching down than that?
jordan holmes
What a fucking monster.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I can't...
dan friesen
He's the fucking worst.
jordan holmes
That is not possible.
dan friesen
And that's part of his part of the tour that's gone well.
unidentified
Yeah, fucking Christ.
dan friesen
Before he got to the West Coast.
jordan holmes
Jesus, fuck.
There's some crime there, right?
There's got to be some crime involved.
dan friesen
I believe that she filed some sort of a suit with the school, but I don't know what ended up happening with it.
jordan holmes
She absolutely should.
dan friesen
Yeah, I can't imagine you can't sue.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, there's...
dan friesen
Through some sort of public slander or public harassment.
jordan holmes
No, that's fucking nightmares.
dan friesen
At least harassment.
Yeah.
unidentified
But...
dan friesen
Oh, wait, hold on.
In this article, I think there might be...
jordan holmes
No, the school owes her millions of dollars for that.
dan friesen
That's just something about a book deal that Milo has.
unidentified
Anyway...
jordan holmes
Fuck him.
I hope he gets hit by a fucking truck.
dan friesen
There's a book out called Dangerous, and Alex Jones went on a long tirade about how it was supposed to be called Dangerous Faggot, but the media censors him.
Because his tour, Milo's tour that he's on is called the Dangerous Faggot Tour.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But that's, again, just to push the buttons of the PC left.
I don't give a fuck that you call it that.
I don't think any...
Most people I know who are on the left don't care.
jordan holmes
I mean, if...
Yeah, if he's gonna be...
dan friesen
About that particularly.
jordan holmes
If he's gonna...
Of all the things to be mad at him about, that's zero.
That's zero on the list right now.
dan friesen
Doesn't rank.
jordan holmes
That's zero.
dan friesen
So...
jordan holmes
Fucking monster.
dan friesen
At his event in Seattle.
jordan holmes
I am going to be angry about that for months!
dan friesen
Yeah.
At his event in Seattle, a protester got shot by one of his fans, got gut shot in a confrontation, and they liked at least...
jordan holmes
So even if you disagree with...
Protests are shutting him down.
You have to agree that him speaking is a safety hazard at best.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, at this point.
But he would argue that it's because of these radical leftists.
unidentified
But he's a fucking prick!
dan friesen
So that happened in Seattle, and then his next date, I believe, I'm not sure if there were any in between, so I apologize for not having that full information, but he went to Berkeley, and then there were outright, essentially, riots.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because there should be.
dan friesen
But also, it came out that one of the things that he planned to do at UC Berkeley was to, much as he did with that trans student, he was going to out illegal immigrant students and make a target of them.
So, the idea that he's expressing free speech and that's what's being shut down is really not all that accurate.
jordan holmes
Do you know what it reminds me a lot of?
It reminds me a lot of, like, say you wanted to commit...
Some sort of holocaust, right?
You would choose some sort of underrepresented group, perhaps a minority, and then you would out them in front of your fervent supporters in order to incite violence against them.
dan friesen
And it might be a good idea if you were sort of, I don't know, the money players behind wanting to catalyze this movement.
It'd be great if the figurehead was a really articulate member of another underprivileged group.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be smart!
dan friesen
Because then it's really hard to attack him without looking homophobic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
That's a great way to go about it.
dan friesen
You can Trojan horse some stuff a little bit.
jordan holmes
It would be awesome if you could also pay him a lot of money to do it as well.
So here's where that ends.
He's now officially a Nazi.
Done.
There's no further conversation about it?
That is the end of that sentence.
dan friesen
He would have a long talk with you about that.
jordan holmes
Milo is a Nazi.
Here's what I would say in this long talk.
Milo.
You be Milo.
unidentified
Hello.
dan friesen
Hello, darling.
jordan holmes
Hi, Milo.
You're a Nazi.
dan friesen
I can't even do an impression of him because it's just...
You know in that first clip how Alex was saying nothing for five minutes?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Milo's really good at that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He can just spin sentences where there's no substance, but it's like...
Man, your voice cadence is intoxicating.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's such a Nazi thing to do.
dan friesen
It kind of is.
jordan holmes
He's a Nazi.
So here's the way the free speech argument goes.
Once again, alright, First Amendment, Congress can't make a law outlawing you saying shit.
dan friesen
That's a really big part of the First Amendment.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can't go to jail for that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No one has to fucking listen to you.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And if you're getting paid, then people who are, let's say, paying the institution, and that institution is paying this guy, have a 100% right to be like, hey, fuck you, you fucking Nazi!
dan friesen
Yes.
Now, I want to make one point that is mildly defending him, but it's not.
And that is that the First Amendment, in its spirit, truly is to protect...
Yes.
And I agree with that.
jordan holmes
Or speech that is abhorrent to the powers that be.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Especially.
unidentified
Both.
dan friesen
You know, things that are offensive to people and to the government.
That should be protected.
And I fully agree that Milo should be able to say the things that he wants to say.
jordan holmes
100% agree.
dan friesen
But he does not have the right to essentially harass people.
And threaten them.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Like, that girl, that trans girl in Milwaukee, that's a threat.
jordan holmes
That is a crime.
That is a crime, and he should be arrested for that.
dan friesen
What he intended to do in Berkeley was a threat to these people.
And whether you're like, oh, they deserve the threat, they're here illegally, that's not relevant.
That is absolutely not relevant.
jordan holmes
No, no.
End.
The end.
He's a Nazi.
dan friesen
There are also limits to free speech.
As much as we want to say free speech, hooray, there are limits.
You can't threaten people.
You can't commit slander.
These sorts of things are built into the First Amendment.
And what he's doing, maybe it's not slanderous because it's technically true some people are here illegally, but it is a threat.
jordan holmes
It's an absolute threat.
He is inciting violence.
dan friesen
It may or may not be protected.
jordan holmes
He is shouting fire in a crowded theater.
dan friesen
Now, we have to deal with the secondary aspect of it, which is the idea that these leftist, well-organized, well-funded protesters, again, it's the Soros narrative, are the ones who caused chaos and rioted.
I've watched a bunch of videos of the beginning of what was going on there, and I'm not going to say it's responsible for all of it, but there's a lot of people agitating the protesters.
There's a lot of people who are getting up in their face and trying to get them to be violent.
At a certain point, you can only push people so far.
jordan holmes
There was that video of the guy who got punched.
Yes.
He was pulling...
dan friesen
Pseudonym Eddie Brock.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he was pulling this whole, like, I'm just an innocent guy there.
He was getting up in people's faces and literally forcing them to react to him.
dan friesen
Like a centimeter from their face.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they just wanted a fucking protest.
unidentified
Now, again, Nazi.
jordan holmes
Here is my take on Nazis and the First Amendment and how we should handle this.
It should not be illegal.
To espouse Nazi beliefs.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
It should also not be illegal to punch Nazis.
Now...
dan friesen
I agree.
jordan holmes
That is at the very...
You know what?
I understand why people would push back against that.
dan friesen
We got some more Milo to get through.
jordan holmes
So here's my compromise.
Okay, okay.
Everybody gets one.
You get to punch a Nazi.
If you can prove they're a Nazi...
You get to punch a Nazi one time.
dan friesen
So our listeners have field day on Milo now.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
dan friesen
I'm not encouraging that.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Hey, let me ask you a question.
In literally every movie you've ever seen where a Nazi gets punched, have you ever been like, oh man, I wish they'd protected that Nazi.
dan friesen
I mean, there's that iconic scene in Indiana Jones where he punches out that Nazi.
jordan holmes
I want to be like...
Indiana Jones.
Not in his archaeology.
He's very dangerous to artifacts and indigenous peoples.
In all aspects, he's probably bad.
He's white imperialism, but goddammit if the man doesn't punch a good Nazi.
dan friesen
All right, let's get back to the alleged Nazi Milo.
milo yiannopolis
Bring themselves to, you know, to hold to basic principles.
You know, I hate what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it, whatever.
This shows the left that they're most...
Sinister and authoritarian.
And that's why my book, as you say, and thanks for bringing it up, is shot to number one at the top of the Amazon bestseller list.
And interestingly, the three books at the top of the Amazon bestseller list this morning are The Handmaid's Tale, 1984, and Me.
unidentified
And I think it's just an indication of how America is feeling about the ruling elite.
dan friesen
I think he gets it backwards.
He talks about how that's how people feel about the ruling elite.
unidentified
Maybe it's how they feel about you, you fucking Nazi.
alex jones
Absolutely.
And now Le Pen is way ahead in the polls.
The Brexit's happened.
We've got Italy saying no to EU expansion.
This is amazing.
I mean, I think we've reached a major tipping point.
And no matter what George Soros or Nancy Pelosi do, Milo, I don't see them reversing it.
milo yiannopolis
No, neither do I. I mean, this becomes a point beyond which myth into people through the media.
And all the other various bits of the rigged system that were pointed in Hillary's favor in the last election just don't work against the colossal volume of people who are just sick of being lied to and lied about.
Sick of having, you know, their lives ruled over by people who think that they know how we should speak and what we should read and what we should know.
How we should express ourselves, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't want to play the rest of this.
jordan holmes
He's a fucking Nazi.
dan friesen
I don't really want to play the rest of this because it's a long interview.
jordan holmes
This is so fucking brutal.
Listening to this man talk is heartbreaking on so many levels.
dan friesen
It's a thorough ass kissing from Alex and they talk about a bunch of nonsense.
But the one thing that I wanted to bring up, maybe we can get to it because I think it's kind of early and then we'll cut it.
But I want to get to a part where he talks about people's...
I'll get to it.
alex jones
Hold on.
milo yiannopolis
People are tired of this now.
They're tired of policies that benefit global elites and don't benefit regular people, and they're voting accordingly.
And, you know, all of the rigging and voting...
dan friesen
Never mind.
jordan holmes
They're tired of it, and they're voting...
Not accordingly.
They're voting the complete opposite direction.
I agree that George Soros and Nancy Pelosi aren't gonna do shit for us.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
The main problem is that apparently we're not doing shit for us either.
dan friesen
We're doing a good podcast.
jordan holmes
We're trying...
dan friesen
Hey, everyone, spread the word.
jordan holmes
The least amount.
dan friesen
Help us out.
Spread the word.
jordan holmes
Fight, fight.
dan friesen
I know you're out there listening.
I can see the numbers.
We're growing.
Help us out.
Each one, teach one.
jordan holmes
Spread the word.
Knowledge fight for the truth.
dan friesen
Or let's go the opposite direction.
Keep your mouth shut about our show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we don't want to get fucking found out.
dan friesen
Keep us under the fucking radar.
jordan holmes
At this point, we are saying some openly seditious things to our coming world governments of fucking authoritarian Nazis.
dan friesen
So there's a point where Milo talks about how he saw Robert Reich on CNN, and he was suggesting that it was possible that right-wing forces were responsible for the rioting at Berkeley.
Milo says that this is an absolute bullshit.
It's one of the most sickening, crazy conspiracy theories he's ever heard.
And in the same breath, it's like, well, these protesters are paid by George Soros, and they're well-organized.
jordan holmes
It's the most sickening thing I've ever heard as well.
unidentified
All of this is sickening, but the opposite is true.
jordan holmes
If they were well-organized and paid, wouldn't they be better at being non-violent?
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
Wouldn't that be what you would really want to organize around?
dan friesen
No, because he doesn't give a shit.
jordan holmes
Now, here's the thing about that.
I do agree with Robert Reich.
Or no, I don't agree with Robert Wright.
dan friesen
Right, I don't entirely either.
jordan holmes
I don't think it's the right wing.
I think it's that fucking everybody is losing their shit right now because nobody has any fucking clue what's going on.
dan friesen
And on both sides.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
The right wing doesn't understand what's happening right now.
They're starting to get this inkling of, oh, maybe we're getting fucked.
And that is driving them insane.
And there's no stability in our government.
So that's going crazy.
dan friesen
I think crazy people are emboldened on both sides.
unidentified
Exactly.
jordan holmes
The left, we're aware that we're getting fucked, and apparently we have zero power.
So there's all of these powerless people surrounding each other in one small place.
Yeah, you're going to get violent conflict.
Because you only punch the people you see instead of the actual people everybody's mad at.
dan friesen
We come back to this over and over again.
jordan holmes
Which are the global elites!
We're all mad at them!
Everybody!
They're the ones who fucked us over to the point where these idiots voted for somebody to fuck us over more!
dan friesen
We just have a debate, necessarily, really, about who they are.
We think it's a broad group.
Some of it's connected, some of it's disconnected, it's complicated.
They think it's globalists, which is a code for Jews.
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean, I think it's pretty obvious that...
Once all of the corporations no longer have any ties to any country, then now it's not about any country.
So they're trying to screw over anybody everywhere because that's where they can get their money.
So they're just capitalist self-perpetuating war machines that are going to eventually eat each other alive.
But they just can't...
They don't understand that because they can't.
It's in their very nature to eat themselves alive.
dan friesen
And that's one of the great reasons why this whole nationalism streak is going to be dangerous.
jordan holmes
It's super dangerous.
dan friesen
Because eventually you're going to have to come up against each other.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If everyone is America first, Germany first, all this.
There will be no room for compromise.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Isn't that really crazy how every time there's a giant nationalism outbreak, everybody fucking goes to war?
dan friesen
It seems like it's a pattern.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I want to make a few more points about Milo before we move on to some crazy bullshit from Alex afterwards.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
We got a little bit more.
So he claims that he was kicked off Twitter because he made a fat joke about Leslie Jones.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Absolutely not true.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
That was very, very not true.
jordan holmes
Could be because he's a racist Nazi.
dan friesen
That's a big part of it.
Also tweeting fake tweets that were created.
You know how you can just make a fake tweet with someone and make it look like they said it?
He tweeted a bunch of racist things and faked it as if they were coming from her.
Sicked a bunch of really crazy people at her who were making death threats.
jordan holmes
Wonderful.
dan friesen
Ended up hacking her, leaking nude pictures of her and shit like that.
That's why you get kicked off Twitter.
jordan holmes
Jesus fucking...
dan friesen
You were instrumental in a doxing.
That's what happens.
jordan holmes
What could possibly be...
dan friesen
It was just a fat joke.
jordan holmes
What could possibly be your...
How can anybody be this much of a monster?
I don't know.
Look, I can't walk down the street and suddenly find myself walking behind a woman at a very similar pace without me going through this.
Wait, does she think I'm a murderer?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Am I a murderer?
Oh, no.
I'm not a murderer, am I?
unidentified
I don't think I am.
jordan holmes
I don't think I'm a murderer.
I have an existential meltdown just because I'm terrified of walking ten feet behind a girl at the right speed.
I have to run to get ahead of her.
dan friesen
But that's because...
jordan holmes
To make sure that I'm not confusing myself with murder.
dan friesen
But that's because we're pussy libtard cucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but...
dan friesen
And that's why we're never gonna make it.
jordan holmes
How about...
Let's all do that.
dan friesen
Sure.
It would maybe be better if everyone is a little bit more squeamish than they were aggressive.
jordan holmes
Let's all stop for a second and just think, wait, am I doing what a murderer would do?
dan friesen
Maybe.
Maybe it would be helpful if we thought that way.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Or let's say, am I a Nazi?
dan friesen
Here's the other good news about...
jordan holmes
Don't be Nazis, guys.
dan friesen
Here's the other good piece of news about Milo.
He's a horrendous pussy.
jordan holmes
That's not a good piece of news.
It's very laughable.
I find that even more frustrating.
Because if you're going to be a Nazi, at least don't then play the victim card every fucking time.
I got punched.
dan friesen
I'm a Nazi.
But let me tell you the story of why he's a pussy.
So around when he got kicked off Twitter, he was making the rounds in the media.
And he was all full of steam that he was going to lead a gay pride march through Stockholm's Muslim neighborhood because he's like...
jordan holmes
Stockholm?
Sweden?
dan friesen
Well, one of his big things is that there's all this immigrant crime that's going on and Sweden has become a home of rape gangs and they're killing gays and stuff like that.
It's underreported.
unidentified
It hasn't.
jordan holmes
None of these things have happened.
dan friesen
You're just not paying attention.
jordan holmes
I am!
dan friesen
So he was going to lead...
jordan holmes
I'm paying attention real hard!
dan friesen
He made a big fucking deal out of this.
He was even on Rogan's podcast and announced he was going to do this gay pride march.
jordan holmes
Right.
How'd that go?
dan friesen
He fucking cancelled.
After a briefing by our security team and a review of the situation in Sweden, Breitbart News has cancelled Milo's appearance at the Pride Jarva Parade on Wednesday, July 27th.
Despite Milo's request to honor his commitment, we are not confident that we can ensure his safety.
That is bullshit.
jordan holmes
I mean, if I were at a pride parade and Milo was there, I don't think he would be safe.
dan friesen
Well...
jordan holmes
Not from any roving bands of Muslim gangs.
I'll tell you that.
dan friesen
Just from you.
jordan holmes
Just from anti-Nazi people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna try and say Nazi on this podcast as many times as it was said in Inglourious Basterds.
dan friesen
You've said it a bunch already.
jordan holmes
There's no other word for it.
I want to use other pejoratives.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But unfortunately, the only one I can think of that's worse than Nazi is double Nazi.
dan friesen
Nazi, Nazi.
jordan holmes
Nazi, Nazi.
dan friesen
Something like the pizza, pizza guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was the pizza, pizza guy.
dan friesen
So he made...
jordan holmes
Little Caesar sponsor us.
dan friesen
He made a big deal about how brave he was and how he didn't care and he was ready to die at this parade.
And I think he realized, I might get fucked up at this parade.
And then he's like, I can't show ass here.
I can't...
I can't cancel, so you need Breitbart to do it for him.
jordan holmes
That's a pussy move right there.
dan friesen
It is.
So anyway, Alex...
jordan holmes
Actually, pussies are much stronger than that.
dan friesen
Yeah, Kegel muscles.
milo yiannopolis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a Nazi move right there.
dan friesen
Alex finishes up his interview with him.
They talk about how they do have plans on the streets.
Alex is going to join him when he goes back to Berkeley for a free speech thing.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Can't wait for that to not happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
Breitbart's going to cancel the fuck out of that.
dan friesen
Alex then gets back up to his old tricks and makes some vague fucking angry death threats.
jordan holmes
Oh, yay!
alex jones
That's what real leadership is, is building new systems, founding new cities, launching new ships.
Launching new personalities.
Launching new movements.
That's what I care about.
I sincerely want to turn the tide so bad against globalism that I have to get people to restrain themselves, not to turn into authoritarians to rout out the globalists.
Those that have committed crimes must be prosecuted, but I don't want to become them when we're basically cleaning them up.
I want to do it very judiciously, by the book, by common law, by the Constitution.
But I'm not going to take pleasure in it.
And some obviously will have to be executed.
jordan holmes
Sure!
alex jones
You know, devil worshippers, you're going to have to die.
If you've been killing kids and we find you with a bunch of dead bodies, you know, you're going to get a jury trial.
You're not going to be on death row for 20 years, bro.
You're going to be dead in about a year.
So just get ready.
We're going to kill you.
So just be prepared.
And I don't say that to act tough.
It's just I need to be honest with people what we're dealing with here.
You kill kids, we're coming for you.
And I know you've been doing it.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
alex jones
And God hears their screams.
And you know what?
God is ascending vengeance, so just get ready.
And by the way, I'm not the one that's going to deliver the vengeance.
I'm just...
jordan holmes
Why not, pussy?
dan friesen
Also, how fucking scary is that laugh?
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
I'm not going to be the one who kills you.
jordan holmes
This is human laugh.
dan friesen
Hold on, here's where he gets to his role in the whole thing.
alex jones
I'm the wardrobe.
I'm just ceremonially up here banging the drum and you see the armies and the fires at night as the camps build and as people shift gears into reality.
dan friesen
They're shifting gears into reality and the war is coming against these pedophiles.
jordan holmes
If you kill kids, I agree.
dan friesen
I totally agree, yeah.
unidentified
Don't...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's an if-then statement we can all get on board with.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're all there.
dan friesen
If you're killing kids, you should die.
jordan holmes
I feel like most of the people he wants to die, though, have killed zero kids.
dan friesen
Well, Hillary Clinton's personally killed and raped many kids.
That's true.
jordan holmes
I mean, not with her own body.
dan friesen
So after this, after this threats of death and what have you, he gets into a sentence.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Also, I don't think you should be able to murder devil worshippers.
dan friesen
Nope.
Absolutely not.
jordan holmes
I feel like that's one, like, yeah.
dan friesen
Remember the First Amendment we love so much?
jordan holmes
You kill kids, bad.
Even I'm going to agree with Alex on that one.
dan friesen
Sure, sure, sure.
jordan holmes
If you're a devil worshipper, I don't know.
Devil worshippers seem pretty cool.
dan friesen
Yeah, I know a couple Satanists.
unidentified
They're awesome.
jordan holmes
So far, they've done nothing but good in the world, which is very...
dan friesen
The secret Satanists, they're the ones who have piles of dead kids in their basement or whatever.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, I mean, yeah.
Well, again...
dan friesen
The secret Satanists that may or may not exist.
jordan holmes
If in your devil worshipping you kill kids, bad.
dan friesen
Bad.
jordan holmes
We're all on board.
Yes.
dan friesen
You know what's the through line that makes it necessary to be bad?
The killing kids part.
jordan holmes
I feel like that's the part that you and I get hung up on.
dan friesen
Just being Satanists, fine.
jordan holmes
Fine, yes.
dan friesen
Killing kids and being a vegan.
You gotta go.
jordan holmes
Bad.
dan friesen
Killing kids and being anything.
unidentified
Bad.
jordan holmes
Bad.
dan friesen
So anyway, here's where Alex Jones accidentally...
I don't think he meant to say this sentence.
He ends up accidentally...
jordan holmes
I worry how many sentences he does and does not mean to say.
dan friesen
He accidentally says something that is quite literally blasphemous.
So, right after talking about how God hears the screams of these children...
jordan holmes
Right, God is ascending vengeance.
dan friesen
Now, here comes some literal blasphemy.
alex jones
Those of you that have spliced humans with animals and engaged in incredible abominations, you must be made examples of so that others fear ever doing what you've done.
I'll put it this way.
If you don't fear God, we're going to make you fear man.
That's how God works.
No.
dan friesen
That's the blasphemy.
jordan holmes
Nope, nope.
That's not how God works.
dan friesen
I looked through the Bible as best I could to try and find any indication that God's like, hey, if they don't care about me, you guys take it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I don't think...
I'm pretty sure it's Jesus take the wheel.
Not, Jesus, I'm still drunk, but let's fucking do this.
dan friesen
Also, quite literally, the reverse is in the Bible.
jordan holmes
Vengeance is mine, but it's the Lord.
unidentified
So, he's literally...
dan friesen
We can take all the wacky energy stuff that he says and that sort of bizarre religious bent he has that is very much not Christianity.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
You can take that aside.
jordan holmes
He's got a hodgepodge of Zoroastrianism and crystals.
This dude is all over the place religion-wise.
dan friesen
Well, he expresses some of his religious stuff a little bit towards the end of these clips that we have.
But here he says something.
unidentified
Racist.
dan friesen
It's not racist.
It's ish.
jordan holmes
Let's find out.
dan friesen
It's race-ish.
alex jones
And in Europe now, and they're trying to bankrupt Trump's plan to reboot the West and the Renaissance and then empower the third world and make deals everywhere.
You can't have a one-sided deal that helps the third world because it doesn't even help them.
It helps the globalists use the one-sided deal to play monopoly in the West and consolidate control.
We've been part of an economic war, folks, not an economy.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
We've been paying for it.
It's been at our expense to build the world government for the New World Order, and Stephen Bannon writes white papers explaining that.
That's why they want Bannon out of there.
They're horrified of Bannon.
He gets the whole thing.
Bannon used to be a big liberal, big union guy, but he really wanted to help people.
That's what they're doing right now, trying to get loans to small businesses.
People ought to be kissing the feet of Trump.
If you're a black American, you ought to be...
Kissing his feet.
If you're a white American, you should be kissing his feet.
Because let me tell you something.
These people are really committed.
Just look at the look on Bannon's face right there.
That's a guy on a suicide mission.
He looks satisfied.
He looks focused.
He knows what he's doing.
He knows the show.
jordan holmes
100% agreed.
dan friesen
But also he flashes up a picture of Bannon and he looks like three quarters drunk.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Every picture of Bannon looks like he's slowly turning into Jabba the Hutt.
dan friesen
He's got the bucolic nose that comes from drinking too much gin.
jordan holmes
And then Trump is salacious crumb sitting on his shoulder.
dan friesen
Cackling.
But also that when he's like, black people should kiss Trump's feet.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he very quickly went to, better make sure white people are in there too.
dan friesen
He knew, oh fuck, what did I just say?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think that's probably a bad thing to say.
dan friesen
And that's why I sort of was ambivalent about the race-ish.
When I was introducing the quote, because what he's saying is strictly speaking, not racist, but I do believe in his mind he wasn't intending to say the second half of that sentence.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, of course not.
dan friesen
I think he was like, ooh, caught myself there.
jordan holmes
Good save, Alex.
Good save.
Because he thinks that, yeah, I mean, clearly, because black people tend to vote Democrat in large margins because the Republicans are...
As we've seen before, giant fucking racists.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, there's no other...
There's no way around it at this point.
If you support GOP now, you're a racist.
That's the way it is.
We're done.
And we're getting close to, if you support them, you're all a Nazi, too.
Now, I would say we're at 60-40 non-Nazis in the GOP now.
dan friesen
Well, but it's not even Nazi.
It's like...
You're supporting taking us back to some of the darkest parts of American history.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, some of the darkest parts of fucking European history.
dan friesen
Yeah, his guy who he's going to put over the FDA doesn't think that drugs should have to be proved that they work before they sell them.
jordan holmes
They just put a bill in to dismantle the EPA.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Cool!
jordan holmes
No, that's great!
I love not having the Earth.
I'm a big fan of the Earth not being here.
dan friesen
They've already made indications that they want to sell off public land, which eventually will lead to getting rid of national parks.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
We're going to go back to such dark times.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would say we're...
I mean, yeah, what are we talking?
Like 1890s, whenever children were forced to work in factories?
dan friesen
Well, that was a nice tweet I saw someone post.
It was like, hey, you know...
Betsy Davos getting in is going to be really bad for schools, but it's not going to matter because they'll be in the mines pretty soon.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
It's like, well, that's kind of...
jordan holmes
I can't believe...
dan friesen
It's an exaggeration, but it doesn't feel off.
jordan holmes
I can't believe...
unidentified
That's how we're going to deal with all these.
jordan holmes
Every morning I wake up and I open Twitter and I just go, No!
Like that.
This is a fucking nightmare.
dan friesen
I do too, because I don't have any retweets.
So no one retweets my shit.
I'm petty.
jordan holmes
This is fucking...
How is it that half of our country doesn't vote?
A plurality of our country that did vote voted for Hillary Clinton.
Yet somehow we're in the darkest timeline.
Like, we're in the darkest timeline, right?
It couldn't possibly be worse than where we are right now.
dan friesen
I think it might have something to do with some of the philosophies that were espoused in that interview with Alexander Dugan.
jordan holmes
I think it might have something to do with everybody being fucking insane now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, uh, hey, you know what?
If you had an enemy in life, how would you describe that person?
Like, what would you say, like, about, like, your mortal enemy?
What would you say about him?
jordan holmes
Uh, British.
Um, gay.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Uh, outs, transgender youths.
Nazi.
And also the guy wearing a white hat from Raiders of the Lost Ark.
dan friesen
I'm not saying specific details about them.
unidentified
Not saying specific details.
dan friesen
But if you were like, hey, you are blank.
Like, you were going to insult them.
What were you going to say?
jordan holmes
Nazi.
dan friesen
Okay.
Alex has some different words about George Soros.
jordan holmes
Great.
I hope they're definitely anti-Semitic.
dan friesen
They're not.
They might be the mildest words I've ever heard.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, good.
alex jones
And it makes me so angry.
They're trying to implode the economy right now to stop Trump and admitting they're doing it.
I mean, it's like at a certain point, Bloomberg and Soros and these globalists and the Rockefellers and all the rest of them just need to stop it.
jordan holmes
The Rockefellers?
alex jones
Trump's going to let you keep all your stolen wealth.
Just stop trying to make us poor, man.
You're super uncool.
unidentified
You're super uncool.
alex jones
People like that.
I'm a very long shelf life in my humble opinion.
jordan holmes
He went on a seven minute tirade.
alex jones
Fair reaction is an equal and opposite reaction.
We're getting sick of you thinking you're above the law.
jordan holmes
He went on a seven minute tirade about the sickening nothing that sickens him so much.
unidentified
Agenda 21. But George Soros, you're just, oh, you're so uncool.
dan friesen
Super uncool.
jordan holmes
You are not cool, man.
That is a dick move, bro.
I can't believe you would do something like that.
dan friesen
He believes, or at least claims to believe, that George Soros is a literal Nazi collaborator.
He has tried to crash our economy and the economies of other countries.
And he's like, hey man, look, you can keep your money.
Just stop being uncool.
What?
That has to mean he doesn't believe it.
jordan holmes
No.
I mean, well, it could just be that he ran out of adjectives.
You know, when you're writing a really long piece and you start looking at all the words you used and you realize, oh, I said shit or sick of, which we've heard in every single clip.
Every single clip we've played tonight, somebody has been sick of something.
dan friesen
Well, Alex has momentum with words.
He's sick of a lot on this episode.
jordan holmes
Milo is sick of things.
dan friesen
For two days after he was on Rogan, he kept calling everything powerful.
jordan holmes
Because Rogan does that?
He's such a malleable little stooge, isn't he?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, he talks about that even in the Y2K as related to that.
He said, I talked myself into believing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And once I believed what I talked myself into believing, oh, I believed the shit out of it.
dan friesen
So I wonder if 15 years from now he'll look back on this and be like, that's the only other thing that I regret.
You know, Trump, I didn't believe it.
I'm not saying I didn't have integrity, but...
jordan holmes
You are being wildly optimistic, suggesting any of us will be here in 15 years.
dan friesen
I think we'll have a crash, and then we'll be coming back by then.
jordan holmes
I don't know, man.
I just don't know.
Like I said, we're in the darkest timeline.
unidentified
It could be 50. It could be the...
dan friesen
And believe me, I don't think any of us are going to make it.
You, me, Alex.
I don't think we're making it.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
Someone's going to take Alex out and you and I are just going to die because we have no resources.
jordan holmes
Because we don't have Alex?
dan friesen
No, because we have no resources.
We don't have Bitcoin.
We don't have gold.
jordan holmes
No, no.
I'm thinking let's move to South America, you and I. Okay.
We can do this podcast in occupied Rio.
dan friesen
We definitely could.
jordan holmes
We can do this podcast anywhere, man.
dan friesen
Hey, let's start a Kickstarter to move us to Rio.
unidentified
That would be, first of all, fucking self-serving as hell.
jordan holmes
Help us escape.
dan friesen
I would be so into that.
jordan holmes
You guys stay behind.
You know you need us more than...
dan friesen
If enough people tweet at me, I will start that Kickstarter as a goof.
jordan holmes
You are really hammering home that you want attention on Twitter tonight.
dan friesen
I really do.
We've gotten a number of tweets, but we need more.
We need this show to spread.
We need it spread like wildfire.
We're doing great, but we need it to do better.
I'm not going to sell you survival gear or fake pills, but it would be great if you could get people into us.
Retweet!
We need a wider audience, right?
Don't fucking laugh!
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
I'm just not used to being this bald-faced in...
dan friesen
At least I'm being upfront about it.
jordan holmes
You are.
You are.
You can follow us on at knowledge underscore fight.
I'm just...
Look, if you're going to ask people to retweet us, you're going to have to give us...
You're going to have to give people an immediate...
Fair enough.
At knowledge underscore fight.
Retweet Dan to make sure that he doesn't have a stroke of sad loneliness tonight.
dan friesen
And knowledge fight on iTunes.
Please subscribe and give us some ratings.
Give us a review.
jordan holmes
We'd love it.
dan friesen
Hey, don't snitch.
unidentified
Look, okay, tell people about us, but don't tell people.
jordan holmes
What are you, crazy?
dan friesen
Tell people, but don't you dare fucking tweet at me with Alex's handle.
Don't you fucking...
Someone did that.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
It scared the shit out of me.
jordan holmes
That opens us up to...
Just wild, intense.
dan friesen
I don't want a deal.
Although, I would love it if I was listening one day and he started talking about us.
unidentified
That would be crazy.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I think we would shit ourselves, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
We would do an emergency episode and the entire episode would just be the clip of him talking about us.
dan friesen
And us just dancing with our pot bellies.
unidentified
With our pot bellies and singing our Tom Bombadillo songs.
dan friesen
I shave my beard so I just have a mustache.
jordan holmes
Tom Bombadillo.
dan friesen
All right, so we got one more clip.
And this is also another thing that I think is...
I would say bordering on a psychotic break.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But it also starts, I believe, with more weird theories about football.
jordan holmes
Here's one quick...
Let's go with one quick prediction corner right here.
Okay.
dan friesen
This is the Eddie Bravo Memorial Prediction Corner?
jordan holmes
No, but tell me about aliens, dude.
I want to know.
dan friesen
That's Joe.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's Joe, right.
Eddie Bravo wants to know about chemtrails.
Yes.
dan friesen
SIA.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So, so far in the time that we've started this...
It seems like Alex has gone crazier even by his own standards.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How crazy?
Like, do you think he's going to pull it back?
Or do you think he's going to lose his shit?
dan friesen
In this clip?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I mean, in our future episodes.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
He's going to lose it.
jordan holmes
He's got a spiral.
He has to keep spiraling into crazy, right?
unidentified
Right, right.
jordan holmes
If he pulls back even for a second, the whole thing crumbles.
dan friesen
On the show that he did over the weekend, he had Roger Stone on, and they were...
And by the way, I want to make this clear.
I will never play a clip with Roger Stone in it.
jordan holmes
Because he's evil?
dan friesen
No, I just think that he is a sort of a spinning spider, as they say.
Whatever he says is bullshit, and I don't...
jordan holmes
He's like Peter Capaldi in The Thick of It.
dan friesen
Sure.
I don't care to give him any...
I don't want his voice on my show.
Let's say that.
But he and Alex were talking about...
jordan holmes
Even for us, he's bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And we played a little bit of Milo.
jordan holmes
We had to bail on Milo.
You had a 10-minute clip served up, and I could not make it through without crying.
dan friesen
And it was mutual.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But he was on, and they were talking about how there are leaks coming out of the Trump White House.
And basically what they were saying is there's the Bannons of the world and, you know, General Flynn's, and they're the Trump people.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And then you got people like Kellyanne Conway and Rince Priebus who are trying to sink the ship.
So less than 20 days in, they've already decided that internally there are enemies.
unidentified
So, like, they can't even blame the liberals.
dan friesen
The media shit isn't really working.
You can't really destroy the media necessarily.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
So now it's like, oh, fuck.
The enemies are in our own rights.
jordan holmes
The enemies are with...
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, they have to eat themselves alive.
dan friesen
Right.
And that's the next stage of crazy.
And then once that happens, you start not trusting yourself.
jordan holmes
Well, it is kind of that situation where your entire thing is built on distrust.
The more you desire purity of belief, the more you start tearing people away to get, you know...
You do purity tests.
Yeah, you show even the slightest bit of disloyalty to Scientology, and you are a submissive person, or a suppressive person, and you're fucking kicked out.
It has to be that way for any purity-based...
Religion or ideology or whatever.
dan friesen
And it's the same thing with religions, like you can't hang out with sinners.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
When what Jesus would want you to do is hang out with them and be cool.
jordan holmes
So what we're saying is just about all religions betray their own beliefs by their existence.
dan friesen
Somewhat.
So anyway, this clip, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, starts with some wacky shit about football and then leads into more proof that Alex...
He's not a Christian based on what we understand Christianity to be.
jordan holmes
We're getting into the Leanne Wackadoo segment.
dan friesen
Well, it becomes a thing where, you know, the beliefs that he started espousing on Rogan, the sort of out there, 12th dimensional...
jordan holmes
Multidimensional, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Some of that stuff has...
I'm not saying he's never talked about it on his own show, but it's bleeding.
jordan holmes
Yeah?
dan friesen
It's bleeding through.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So anyway, here we go.
alex jones
I knew Trump was a fan of the Patriots, but I didn't care either way.
And I didn't even get into that today, how they're saying it's white supremacism because there's a few more white players.
The team's more than half black.
unidentified
He did get into it earlier, by the way.
dan friesen
He's forgotten what he talked about.
jordan holmes
Can we just let that one go?
Let's all just be like, hey, the Patriots won the Super Bowl and that has no bearing on white supremacy at all.
Let's just leave this one alone.
dan friesen
But he's reacting to something dishonestly.
What people were talking about was Richard Spencer.
jordan holmes
Who is a white supremacist.
And a Nazi.
dan friesen
He tweeted a bunch of stuff about how Tom Brady was superior.
jordan holmes
There are plenty of white players.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Again, no.
Let's leave it.
Let's just let that one go.
There are so many other reasons to punch Richard Spencer.
dan friesen
But the media and Twitter were responding to Richard Spencer being fucking racist as shit.
No one was really saying, hey, this is racist because they have a white quarterback.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No.
Nobody was.
But again, let's all just be like, hey, we got...
Betsy Davos is the education secretary.
Who gives a fuck what football team won fucking anything?
dan friesen
Sure, sure, sure.
It's a petty squabble.
jordan holmes
It is a...
Petty squabble.
Meant to distract us.
alex jones
And you guys are Hispanic players and some white players.
It's like black guys making most of the touchdowns.
I mean, yeah, it's a good quarterback.
It's a good, good receiver.
That's white guys and black guys working together.
It's humans working together.
And the media said, man, that's racist.
I mean, the articles are on Infowars.com.
How do you take that and turn it into something racist?
But that's what they're doing.
unidentified
It's not what they're doing.
alex jones
To handicap everybody so this country's a bunch of basket cases.
Quite frankly, I can't even believe at this point.
jordan holmes
You shouldn't.
It's not true.
alex jones
Because when you're informed, this stuff is so obvious.
It's like I have eyesight and the general public that isn't awake is blind.
And so I'm awake on this plane of existence.
I have eyesight.
I have touch.
I have smell.
I have mobility.
And I'm in this plane.
And I see the majority of people are, like, blind, or they're halfway blind, or, you know, they're, and I'm trying to wake them up, so I go, you have sight, you know, just take the goggles off.
jordan holmes
You can't wake somebody up to you.
alex jones
All of a sudden I hear somebody next to me who's got eyesight.
I go, oh, hey, you can see, why don't you help them?
And they go, I'm gonna eat these people.
I'm gonna abuse them and enslave them because they don't have sight.
Stop trying to give them sight.
I'm like, I'm not giving them sight.
They've got blinders on.
I want to take them off.
I got kids.
I want them to be friends with their kids.
Just feed on them.
They don't want your help.
Watch this.
I'll just take one's goggles off and say you're a bad guy.
He's a bad guy.
Then the guy attacks me.
See, I told you.
You don't want to give them sight.
They're profane.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
This is a paranoid fantasy mixed with Plato's allegory of the cave.
jordan holmes
I think this makes zero sense.
At all.
dan friesen
You don't think it's just sort of a bizarre, sort of psychotic version of the allegory of the cave?
It's like Philosophy 101 shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but also, it doesn't make any sense.
dan friesen
Oh, of course not.
jordan holmes
It's fucking insane.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
It is.
It is.
What?
What?
unidentified
Wait.
dan friesen
There's demons eating off people.
jordan holmes
One, you can't wake somebody up out of blindness.
That's not how blindness works.
dan friesen
Nope.
I think it did in an episode of House.
jordan holmes
Oh, that could be true.
dan friesen
But it was also House.
jordan holmes
Just about everything wound up happening in House.
House is basically where...
unidentified
On the next episode of House, in order to save his patient, House will have to kill her.
dan friesen
That was a real promo for House.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, of course.
dan friesen
It was a great episode.
I love House.
jordan holmes
House is basically where Alex gets all of his ideas about what the globalists are doing, right?
dan friesen
I have great sources.
A guy named Greg.
Gregory House.
jordan holmes
He's a doctor!
You can trust doctors and veterinarians.
dan friesen
He does not trust doctors.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
Vaccines give you autism, that whole thing.
For fuck's sakes.
dan friesen
I don't know if we're ever going to deal with it, but on Tuesday's show, he starts out the show eulogizing his grandmother, who is 94, who just passed away.
It's sweet.
It's nice.
You know, like, it's those human moments that he has.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He's a human being, too.
dan friesen
And it's kind of like, oh, I feel bad shitting on him all the time.
He's a man, and he's having a tough time.
But then within a minute of starting the show, talking about his grandma, he talks about her getting a vaccine and how that was a soft kill on her.
And she lived through, like, all these years after getting this vaccine, this polio vaccine.
It's like...
jordan holmes
Did she get polio?
dan friesen
I don't think so.
But he used this whole, like, his grandma's death in order to sort of espouse...
jordan holmes
Anti-vaccination beliefs.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alright, well then fuck him.
I do not feel human feelings for him at all.
dan friesen
It takes that humanity right away.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he always rips the humanity out of himself.
I got kids!
And I'm gonna kill people!
dan friesen
Well, it was like that clip where he talks about his daughter loving his cookie monster impression, and then he's like...
I was talking about nuclear war, excuse me.
All right, come on.
jordan holmes
My daughter loves my cookie monster.
So, in a world, everyone's gonna get killed by the globalists.
dan friesen
This allegory of the cave ripoff was pretty insane, you're right, but it's gonna get a little bit more insane.
alex jones
They don't deserve the sight.
unidentified
You will be given the sight.
jordan holmes
Why?
alex jones
But you didn't give me the sight.
God did.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And I tell you, it is metaphysical because in my life, there's a lot of things that happen I'll never tell anybody about.
jordan holmes
Is he going to immediately tell us about them?
alex jones
But I will just tell you, there's a lot going on in this universe.
It's not in these books.
And the elite know all this stuff.
They know it.
And they don't want you to know.
I mean, you're like a composite of all...
jordan holmes
Wait, was he talking about the elites know the stuff that's not in the books, like the religious books, like the Bible and whatnot?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait?
unidentified
Wait.
dan friesen
I don't know why you're confused.
unidentified
Wait.
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
The elites know stuff that...
So he's ostensibly espousing Christian beliefs.
dan friesen
Somewhat, yeah.
jordan holmes
And there's a lot of stuff in the Bible that they don't tell you about?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, if you want to just...
Take a really simplistic version.
I don't think this is what he's saying.
But if you read the Gnostic Gospels and the Apocrypha...
jordan holmes
The ones where Jesus fought dragons.
dan friesen
Not all of them.
jordan holmes
Not all of them, but some good ones.
dan friesen
But if you read those extra-biblical texts, there are a bunch of books that aren't in the Bible that say some pretty wild stuff.
jordan holmes
Like the ones where Mary isn't a virgin and women are allowed to be people.
dan friesen
Sure.
Or even in the book of Enoch, Enoch goes up to heaven with God and he never dies.
unidentified
Yeah!
Yeah!
dan friesen
There's a bunch of stuff in other texts.
jordan holmes
Also, Elijah does the same thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're the two people who have never died.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But that's a simple version of it.
I don't think that's what he's talking about.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But, yeah, that's what he's saying.
jordan holmes
He's saying that somehow the elites know more about the metaphysical beliefs of...
dan friesen
And he's had some shit happen in his life that he's not gonna talk about because it's too heavy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he's about to tell us about all that shit, right?
dan friesen
He's not, but he is.
jordan holmes
He's gonna do that.
dan friesen
No, but he's about to say some weird shit that, like, some of it I agree with, and some of it I don't, and we'll have to parse it out after he's done, but he should believe none of it.
Because it's kind of trippy.
jordan holmes
He's such a complete contradictory nonsense man.
It is endlessly fascinating.
I swear, when we started this, I thought we were going to run out because it would just be the same crazy.
Every time we listen to him, there's a new facet of insanity.
dan friesen
There's a new conspiracy theory.
jordan holmes
I'm secretly in love with him.
dan friesen
It's not a secret.
jordan holmes
But I want to love him.
And then, like, maybe one night while we're asleep in bed together, I strangle him.
unidentified
While wearing a globalist mask.
jordan holmes
Like in the movie The Purge.
The only way that I would strangle him is if crime were legal for 12 hours.
dan friesen
Which might be soon.
jordan holmes
It's super soon.
And right now, kind of for it.
I'm kind of for it.
dan friesen
So, again...
jordan holmes
If we're gonna go crazy, might as well just fucking go all in.
dan friesen
My theory is that...
Alex went on Rogan's show and probably got some positive feedback about some of the trippy shit he was saying.
And he realizes, oh, I can cater to the sort of shroom heads out there and some of what he has already called trendies.
jordan holmes
And diversify his audience because he knows that the other audience is sticking with him through thick and thin.
At this point, they're committed.
They're in.
If you want to go to trippy shit, yeah, all that Christian nonsense, fine.
Let's bail on it and let's go to...
Twelve fucking dimensions.
dan friesen
Again, I have to say that some of this stuff he's going to say, I'm into.
And some of it, I'm not.
unidentified
But all of it, I'm not into him being into it.
jordan holmes
Listeners at home, guess, play along, and guess which...
unidentified
You keep notes and guess which parts I'm into.
alex jones
These people before you in this human journey and their genetics, and it's been proven you have their instincts and many of their memories.
And you can access all of that, and the enemy knows that.
I had an article I meant to get to today, and I didn't get to it, how they've confirmed that trees have fungus networks and that trees communicate with trees hundreds of miles away through underground Internet of Things.
And of course they show you that in the movie Avatar, because this was done 50 years ago.
But there's an Internet of Things between people.
And the globalists are trying to build an artificial system Over all of that.
That's the BBC reporting that.
What about ancestral memories?
You know, you seem like a Vulcan mind melt.
Where do you think stuff like that comes from, huh?
Can you imagine being a child and having the knowledge of an old man put into you?
Now, they call that the occult.
No, the people that want to keep all that hidden, that's the occult.
All this stuff should be known.
And the media makes jokes about this when I talk about it, but you know what?
They all are trying to find out about it.
Well, guess what?
I know all about it.
And I'm certainly not going to sit here and play games with people who are trying to suppress humanity.
I want to empower humanity.
Now, I got a loaded phone here, but I'm sorry I'm out of time.
No pressure on David.
If he wants to flush him, I understand that they're great people, but he's got a lot to cover.
dan friesen
So also, I want to say this before we get to your predictions, which I'm very excited to see your guesses.
At about the one hour, six minute mark of the show, he announces the lines are open.
He's going to start taking calls.
I'd like you to guess what time stamp he takes his first call.
jordan holmes
He does not take a call.
dan friesen
He takes two calls.
jordan holmes
He takes two calls.
Let's go with...
dan friesen
When's the first one?
jordan holmes
Let's go with two hours and 20 minutes.
dan friesen
Nah, too far.
It was one hour and 31 minutes.
jordan holmes
Okay, so only a half hour after he opened the floor.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And then it was only like...
I don't know.
45 second call.
And she was just saying the globalists are evil.
unidentified
Great call.
dan friesen
Great call.
jordan holmes
He's losing interest in communicating with his audience, right?
dan friesen
I think so.
About a week ago, he had a listener who disagreed with him.
I know you mentioned that.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
How'd it go?
dan friesen
I wish I had the clip of it, but it was just like this guy who's like, you know what?
This is Alex.
He's like, I got a listener who disagrees.
So clearly there are some screeners involved.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But he's like, alright, what's up?
Let's talk about it.
And he's like, Alex, I disagree with you.
I think it would be important for you to be in the White House.
I disagree.
You're better than you think you are.
jordan holmes
Wonderful disagreement.
I love that they have such a diverse panoply of views.
dan friesen
That's the only pushback I've heard from any caller.
Anyway, what are your predictions about this?
First of all, did you love the tone?
All the pauses?
Oh, yeah.
Here's a thought.
Pause.
Here's a thought.
unidentified
Yeah.
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
It sounded like he was in a sleeping bag with me in the forest in a tent.
dan friesen
He's had too much gentlemen's jack.
jordan holmes
Both of us gentlemen jacking high on mushrooms.
And the conversation starts with, hey, Alex, do you believe in God?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
And now let's get into ancestral memory.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Okay, let's start with you have instincts.
dan friesen
Yeah, I agree with that.
jordan holmes
All right, genetic memory.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
I believe the species does have a memory.
jordan holmes
You do agree with that.
I called that one.
The trees do have an underground fungal network wherein that if you chop down a tree, like...
dan friesen
I don't know what that means, but it is true.
jordan holmes
I think it means that Pocahontas was right, and every rock and every creature and every forest has a spirit.
Can you sing with all the voices of the wind?
Yeah.
No, I can't.
dan friesen
But yeah, I am not sure I understand, and I don't think anyone does, really, what the communication that's going on with them is, but there is some sort of a transmission.
jordan holmes
I think there is a basic level of consciousness there.
dan friesen
Like there's danger?
jordan holmes
I think that implies...
dan friesen
You're getting chopped down, it's like, oh, danger, danger, danger.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and then you release, I mean, if you're a tree, not you specifically, but then trees release all of their defense mechanisms, the smells, the oils, and all of that stuff.
Okay.
Now...
I do kind of think that that means there's a base level consciousness within most plants as well.
dan friesen
Sure.
And they have done studies about talking to house plants.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But it's unclear whether it's you breathing carbon dioxide on them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a whole...
Those kind of studies are so...
It's so hard to kind of isolate any element there to actually prove or disprove anything.
But that would be my suspicion.
Which to me means that no matter what you do...
No matter what you eat, you are killing something that is alive and is aware and is screaming as it dies.
dan friesen
Unless you're one of these people who only eats the fruits that have already fallen off trees.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
There are those people.
jordan holmes
I don't remember exactly what they're terming.
Although those are seeds, which means those are abortions.
If you eat it, that's an abortion.
dan friesen
Plant that.
jordan holmes
No, but the fruit is a...
Eh, whatever.
dan friesen
Depends on the fruit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Anyway, go ahead.
jordan holmes
What's next?
So yeah, morphic knowledge.
unidentified
What does that mean?
jordan holmes
The idea that there's an internet of humans.
dan friesen
The idea that we can communicate telepathically?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Not sure on that one.
jordan holmes
Well, the theory behind morphic knowledge is, like, they observed this, I want to say, like, a couple of times, where on one island, a species of bird would suddenly figure out...
How to use a tool to get to something.
And then within a week, even though there's been no contact, that same species somewhere else would have the same exact thing.
dan friesen
For humans, there's the studies that have been done about old crossword puzzles being easier than new ones.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
That kind of, is there a morphic knowledge that we all share?
I'm going to go with no.
dan friesen
It's fun to think about.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
But I'm not sure that...
And then even if you want to go another step and get even trippier, there have been studies that have been done on lucid dreaming where people...
There are indications that people are able to dream together.
With intense practice.
jordan holmes
From the graphic novel Sandman by Neil Gaiman.
dan friesen
Also from studies that have been done by Dr. Stephen LaBerge.
It's not clear.
I don't know if I trust their methodology.
And I've certainly never had any experience like that.
It's interesting to think about.
I'm not sure I believe it.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with...
I doubt it.
dan friesen
So Morphic Knowledge, I'm going to give that a...
jordan holmes
I'm going to put myself firmly in the no column.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Now, the next one.
Ancestral Memories.
dan friesen
Right, but that's...
jordan holmes
Genetic knowledge.
dan friesen
But that goes back to instincts and the idea that, like, from bygone eras we're afraid of monsters because of, like...
jordan holmes
Well, I want to say no because he also brought up the idea of the what if you were a little kid with an old man's knowledge in you.
dan friesen
I think that was a separate thought.
There was a pause there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounded crazy.
dan friesen
There was a pause there, and I think that was a separate thought.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with you don't agree with that one.
dan friesen
I think that was Benjamin Button.
jordan holmes
No, I don't know if I agree with that one.
And then here's my final thing that I don't know if you believe or not, right?
It is Alex Jones saying he knows all about it.
dan friesen
You missed one.
jordan holmes
What was that?
dan friesen
The Vulcan mind meld.
jordan holmes
Oh, was that a separate thought?
dan friesen
I think it was.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
I just let that one go.
dan friesen
Vulcan mind meld.
Where do you think that came from?
jordan holmes
That's true.
Where do you think that came from?
dan friesen
Art.
jordan holmes
Imagination?
dan friesen
Sure.
He doesn't believe in creativity, I think, is one of the things.
jordan holmes
I agree!
Yeah, for somebody, and especially because he's so obsessed with movies, every single reference to a movie he has, he thinks is something that has actually happened, and somebody's trying to send a message through it, right?
dan friesen
Well, but also the...
jordan holmes
Like he said that Avatar was real.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
But it comes back to what a lot of conspiracy theorists believe.
dan friesen
And that is that culture and movies and all that stuff is what's known as predictive programming.
So something comes out in a movie that's super true, but the powers that be don't want you to think it's true.
So it comes out in a movie.
So when it comes out in real life, you're like, I don't believe that.
It's just like that stupid movie.
jordan holmes
That is a really impossible thing to disprove.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Mainly because...
What?
dan friesen
That's what most conspiracy theory stuff comes down to, is wildly unprovable.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and you can't disprove it.
dan friesen
That's what I meant.
I meant disprovable.
I apologize.
jordan holmes
That is the bedrock of the, like, that's the old Carl Sagan anecdote where the woman came up to him and was like, I believe there's a turtle underneath the earth holding it up.
And he's like, well, what's below that?
And she's like, a bigger turtle.
What's below that?
And even bigger, you know, it's turtles all the way down.
That's the gem of their argument, right?
It's always going to be an infinite loop of you'll never, you know.
dan friesen
We're still trying to figure out what that other turtle is like, but man, there's a turtle.
jordan holmes
Man, I know there's a turtle.
It's a big one.
Not a tortoise.
We ate all those.
dan friesen
Also, back to your last one, I do not believe that Alex knows everything.
jordan holmes
You don't think so?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
But I have a question.
You missed one.
Do you believe this?
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk!
unidentified
By far the greatest thing that has ever happened.
dan friesen
Is him saying he's a policy walker?
jordan holmes
I can't wait until we compile an entire morning zoo crew bump level of just, boom, this he said one time.
Boom, this he said one time.
dan friesen
Black people should kiss Trump's feet.
jordan holmes
I love you.
dan friesen
Do like a Dr. Drew boogie.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Get a Casio keyboard and just upload all of that shit in there.
dan friesen
Anybody who has any musical skill, please do something.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Well, that's it for our clips, man.
That was Monday.
January...
Oh, February 6th.
jordan holmes
February 6th.
dan friesen
My month's off.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This has been fun, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Always a pleasure.
dan friesen
So much fun.
Guys, until next time when we come back...
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can catch us on at knowledge underscore fight.
Subscribe to us on iTunes.
Do you want to give out our personal Twitter handles?
unidentified
Leave me alone.
dan friesen
Also, though, we've got to come up with a better sign-off.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What do you think our sign-off should be?
unidentified
I'm a policy wonk!
dan friesen
Until next time, we've been policy wonks!
jordan holmes
It's been policy walks.
unidentified
It's been policy walks.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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