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Jan. 23, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
02:02:21
#6: Inauguration Speech Recap

On today's show, Dan tells Jordan about Alex Jones' breakdown of President Trump's inauguration speech.  Topics covered include: Did Obama really tell 3rd World Countries they couldn't have cars? Did God put Trump into power, and does that make Alex fake cry? Was Alex Jones drunk for most of inauguration weekend? Alex was almost certainly drunk for most of inauguration weekend

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alex jones
14:38
d
dan friesen
52:58
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jordan holmes
45:18
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barack obama
01:12
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marshall mcgill
02:35
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philip thomas
02:03
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
Today, we take another adventure down into the land of Alex Jones and his insanity.
I watched too much InfoWars.
jordan holmes
And I have no fucking clue what he's on about.
dan friesen
And I will do my best to explain what's going on in the world.
unidentified
Let's hope.
dan friesen
Do you?
jordan holmes
Well, going on in the imaginary world is maybe a better way of describing it.
dan friesen
The world of Jones, as it were.
jordan holmes
The world according to Garp.
dan friesen
I've been wrestling with a few things.
Today's episode is going to involve the 14-hour live broadcast that InfoWars did, which everyone can agree is excessive.
jordan holmes
There's no way anybody watched...
More than a half hour of it, right?
dan friesen
I think a lot of people watched a bunch of it.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
I know that I was checking it out periodically.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Did they have the live viewers on it?
dan friesen
Yeah.
And at points, it was in the thousands.
It fluctuated, as all these things do.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Pretty much every year, me and Matt Riggs get together and watch Podcast-a-thon.
unidentified
Right, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Jimmy Pardo's charity marathon show.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And you see the number go up and down, and that's just...
People don't have time for this bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's a long-ass thing.
People drop in, drop out.
unidentified
A lot of people weren't watching a long time, though.
dan friesen
Myself, I'm not super thrilled to admit this.
I could really only make it through a couple hours of it before I had to retreat to the safe waters of...
jordan holmes
How are you not super thrilled that you made it through a couple hours?
dan friesen
Well, because the hours...
jordan holmes
I would have gotten through maybe 45 minutes if I was really focused on something else.
dan friesen
Well, the hours that I made it through, the reason I'm not excited...
We're hours where Paul Joseph Watson was hosting.
jordan holmes
PJW.
dan friesen
PJW, who hates SJWs.
jordan holmes
Nope, hates them.
dan friesen
And then David Knight.
jordan holmes
David Knight, who's the most boring...
dan friesen
He's a smug prick.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Who has a Santa beard.
jordan holmes
How was our girl Leanne McAdoo?
dan friesen
Leanne McAdoo was fine.
She was fine.
Most of what I watched her do was interview a guy about how Russia is okay.
That was a big narrative they kept spinning.
They talked way too much about Russia.
jordan holmes
They have to establish, because for so long, all of Alex Jones' show was Russian baiting, basically.
And so now they have to establish that Rush is okay in order to justify pretending that none of the past 20 years have happened.
dan friesen
Yeah, and actually, one of the things I was going to do is because this inauguration 14-hour broadcast is so unwieldy and so almost impossible to cover, I wanted to think, maybe we could do a special episode.
And so I went back and listened to the 9-11 episode that he did.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it's shockingly boring.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's bizarrely, it's just like, I told you so, that was most of what it was.
jordan holmes
And you do have to give him credit, he did, like in the Y2K episode, the blind squirrel and the crazy occasional nut, he totally nailed it.
dan friesen
Well, but to be fair, it was very easy to predict.
jordan holmes
And he even called out Osama Bin Laden, too.
dan friesen
But it's very easy to predict that.
9-11 would happen and Bin Laden would take responsibility, given that he'd already attacked the World Trade Center and said he wants to do it again.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He did state loudly, on the record...
dan friesen
In the white papers.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Look, they're putting this out there.
You're not reading it, but Osama's gonna attack.
dan friesen
Yeah, so...
I have a lot of theories about what happened during the inauguration.
To get back to that, because that is what we're going to cover.
Yes.
jordan holmes
The great nightmare that began on the inauguration day.
dan friesen
Well, the Women's March just happened.
When we're recording this, it's the day after, and all that was fucking awesome.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Millions of people taken to the streets.
jordan holmes
They were saying about 3.3 million across the country.
dan friesen
Which is insane.
jordan holmes
An entire 1% of our population was like...
Fuck this dude.
dan friesen
And that seems low, like 1%, but you have to factor in babies, elderly.
unidentified
That's huge!
jordan holmes
And even if you go just by voting population, that's a full 2.5%.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is a huge part of the electorate.
dan friesen
And the largest protest in American history.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
But what's going to end up happening...
jordan holmes
And it's countrywide.
It's not because that's always the narrative of like, no, the heartland is real America.
Yeah.
Countrywide from fucking...
Kansas City, there were thousands of women showing up.
dan friesen
The heart of Texas.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Occupied Texas.
dan friesen
And even unoccupied Texas.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it was amazing.
dan friesen
And around the world, even, I saw pictures of protests that were taking place in Antarctica.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's fucked up.
jordan holmes
All seven continents, there were people protesting.
dan friesen
But we don't have feedback of what he is going to say about this and the narrative that's going to be spun.
But I guarantee it.
What's going to happen is he's going to conflate that with the people breaking Starbucks windows the night before.
jordan holmes
Every fucking time.
dan friesen
It's going to be, this wasn't a protest, it was riots, blah blah blah blah blah, which is, I mean, we'll deal with that when we get to it.
I'm having a disjointed opening because I don't know how to frame this.
jordan holmes
Everything is overwhelming right now.
The whiplash of the worst day.
Compared to one of the most amazing days I've ever seen.
Like, I have been so hopeless.
And then seeing all of those women show the fuck up and...
Like, and that's the other thing.
In D.C., no arrests.
There were 500,000 people.
Yeah.
dan friesen
There were like 300.
jordan holmes
But the Women's March.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
500,000 people.
Walking down the street, zero arrests, all peaceful.
dan friesen
Cops high-fiving them?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, there's no narrative you can spin other than these are full-on protesters.
dan friesen
Oh, there will be, and we'll get to it eventually.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but fuck them.
dan friesen
I want to start, I guess here's how I'm going to start this.
I have a theory that Alex was only on the broadcast for a couple hours and just vague check-ins with him because he was on a bender.
jordan holmes
Full on.
dan friesen
I think Alex was real drunk throughout most of Inauguration Weekend.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, he did go to the Deplora Ball, where I'm assuming they all got shit-faced.
dan friesen
And here, I want to start with a clip of him right before the Deplora Ball that sort of introduces my thesis that he was very drunk.
jordan holmes
That he was out of his gourd?
dan friesen
Yeah.
And keep in mind, he was scheduled to speak at the Deplora Ball, and this is before it.
alex jones
We want to take over with freedom.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's drunk.
alex jones
And so here's how it works.
Old parasites and all the dumbasses walk around in their big trench coats acting like they're the toughest stuff on the earth.
dan friesen
So he also, I should give a point of clarification there, he always talks about the people in Washington as being in big trench coats.
jordan holmes
Okay.
That's some spy work right there.
That's full on spy versus spy kind of stuff.
dan friesen
Big trench coats and fedoras walking around like you own the place.
jordan holmes
1950s.
dan friesen
He goes on to get to the point where I'm absolutely positive he's drunk.
alex jones
You're going to have to actually deal with reality now.
So infowars.com forward slash show for the live feeds.
We got to go to the floor ball now.
Oh my god.
jordan holmes
He didn't even say all of the words.
alex jones
I'm already late to speak.
So we're going to get on to that right now.
I'm going to sneak off and piss on some tree or something.
We're going to get there, but here's the deal.
The age of fake bullshit is over.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
The return of man is here.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
alex jones
Get ready, because it's going to run your ass over.
1776, baby.
jordan holmes
Wait, 1776, bail?
dan friesen
No, no.
Someone yelled 1776 for the side and he was like, 1776, baby.
unidentified
Just that, like, I gotta go find a tree to piss on.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
That's a drug...
Like, he's slurring his words.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That is a drunk man.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
I have some more clips I'm going to play that further make the argument that he is wasted.
jordan holmes
And you know he's wasted because he's trying to act, he's trying to sound like he's not wasted.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
He's trying to sound professional.
dan friesen
And there's one point, I didn't actually isolate this clip because I got lost in the 14 hours, but there's a point where he's like screaming about how he's not drunk.
Which I texted you about, and I was like, that's exactly what drunk people do.
jordan holmes
That's the drunkest thing you can do.
dan friesen
I've been a doorman at bars.
Every single person who gets thrown out, I'm not drunk, you're drunk.
jordan holmes
I'm not that drunk.
marshall mcgill
Yeah, come on, man.
jordan holmes
Why are you accusing me of having too much to drink?
I had a sip.
dan friesen
So here's my thesis that may be developed over the course of this episode.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
It's a three-pronged thesis.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
The first is that Alex was wasted through most of the weekend, and that's why they kept him off air and had David Knight hosting most of their coverage for that 14 hours.
jordan holmes
Alright, we got that one.
That's pretty well established.
dan friesen
David Knight back in studio.
Leanne McAdoo also in studio.
Paul Joseph Watson lives in London.
So he just Skypes in and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Alex and Owen Schroyer and Rob Dew were on the ground.
Rob Dew, of course, is the cameraman who sometimes gets on camera and is not great.
Oh, also...
They had shots because there's cameras on top of cameras.
It's a communist Chinese resting doll.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And you could see...
jordan holmes
Well, they have cameras that are videotaping people videotaping people.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
To prove that there is...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Rob Dew's elaborate camera setup, he has one of those things, the stabilizers.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But what's attached to it is two iPhones.
They don't even have cameras.
They have iPhones that they're using with a boom mic.
jordan holmes
You know, the cameras on the iPhones aren't that bad.
dan friesen
No, agreed.
jordan holmes
I mean, there's some good stuff.
I'm not advertising for iPhones.
dan friesen
No, but you'd think a professional operation would have cameras as opposed to what I have.
jordan holmes
Well, we've already established their money stream is very suspect.
dan friesen
Tenuous.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So my first thesis is that Alex was drunk and they kept him off air for a large portion of it, which kind of makes it boring.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Because we want Alex.
jordan holmes
We don't want these other people.
If he were drunk on broadcast the whole time...
dan friesen
For ten hours?
jordan holmes
Fuck, that would be the best thing I've ever seen.
dan friesen
I wouldn't have turned it off.
jordan holmes
No, that would be the most compelling situation to watch.
dan friesen
So my second...
jordan holmes
Especially because you know he would fall in and out of sleep at least once or twice.
dan friesen
Oh yeah, he's pissing on a tree, falls asleep.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go piss on it.
unidentified
And he's drunk before the ball.
dan friesen
Imagine after.
Amazing.
Actually, I think I have a clip.
I have a clip from after.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But the second prong of my thesis.
jordan holmes
Do you have the speech?
dan friesen
Which speech?
jordan holmes
At the deplorable.
dan friesen
No, that wasn't released.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
That must have been incredible.
dan friesen
I think that's behind closed doors shit like Hillary at Goldman Sachs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But the second prong of my thesis is that he wasn't really welcome there.
At the inauguration.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
That Trump didn't even really invite him.
He went to this deplorable, which was a secondary thing.
It's like if you go to, like, WrestleMania, there's WrestleCon there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Or you go to, like, some big event, there's a secondary event.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He was invited to deplorable.
But there's a video, and it's not really good for audio, so I didn't put it in our collection.
There's a video of him getting thrown out of the inauguration.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
There's a video of cops taking him out of a big crowd past a barrier.
jordan holmes
That is...
And he's going to spin it for his own safety, of course.
dan friesen
Oh, sure.
Too many people were coming at me, the globalists.
jordan holmes
They were afraid of me telling the truth.
dan friesen
All of the clips that he posted, all the interviews, are him just somewhere on the street.
Surrounded by like 10 or 20 people.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So all of the clips are places that you don't need access to get to.
I have no evidence that he's actually anywhere important.
jordan holmes
That is amazing.
dan friesen
So my secondary thesis, merged with my first one, is that this is all sort of an elaborate charade about his access that he has.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he knows it, and he's cracking under the pressure, and so he's just drinking.
jordan holmes
And the fact that he's not in the actual inauguration really fucks him up.
Because he feels like he is taking credit for...
dan friesen
He's carrying the water.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And then all of a sudden to be betrayed like that, which we all saw coming.
Every single...
dan friesen
You have to burn your sort of weirdo people.
All of your functionaries who are a liability, you've got to burn them.
jordan holmes
And this is the first time he's ever been stepped on.
On the way to the top.
No one's ever allowed him.
Exactly!
He's never had anybody to step on him.
Because nobody likes him or wants him anywhere.
And then all of a sudden he did some groundwork and it's like...
Now I gotta kick you to the curb.
That must be a horrifying...
Now I kind of feel bad for him.
dan friesen
I don't.
jordan holmes
Okay, good point.
I hope he gets hit by a truck.
dan friesen
As we established on the last episode, he's very evil.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not stupid.
jordan holmes
No, fuck him.
dan friesen
So I think that what's happening is that Trump has led him along in a big way.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And now it's gotten to a point where it's like, look, I'm actually president now.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I can't have you at the gala.
Or something like that.
You're going to cause a scene.
jordan holmes
Like he's led on all of his supporters.
Like the day of it, like the first thing he signed was like, middle class people need to pay more interest on their mortgage.
dan friesen
Which wasn't a part of any platform.
jordan holmes
Zero part of that.
All of his supporters are like, it's time for the middle class to really take over.
And then the first thing he does is go, we're going to need you to spend more money.
And they're like, what the fuck?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's going to be really shocking, like the waves of awareness that start coming.
jordan holmes
You tried to tell people, just like, he is lying to you.
Just like he's lied to everyone.
dan friesen
Yep, but no, it's fake news, crooked media.
jordan holmes
Fake news.
dan friesen
So if you, let's just get into it.
There's one clip that I think is sort of coherent enough.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it's after the inauguration speech, and it's sort of a breakdown.
Let's fucking take this part piece by piece.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The inauguration speech.
And I don't think he does a really great job of it.
But here is the beginning of the clip where he introduces his thesis about what Trump's inauguration speech was all about.
alex jones
First off, let me just take a deep breath here and break down what just happened here today.
Undoubtedly.
This was providence.
This was American destiny being re-invoked.
This was Trump declaring the birthright of this republic that George Washington talked about.
dan friesen
A little bit dog-whistly there.
jordan holmes
Birthright means birthright!
dan friesen
Yep.
That is straight-up code.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
You know that every white supremacist gets super thrilled to hear that sort of thing.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
But this is actually going to get into the third prong of my thesis, and that is that what we're witnessing is Alex Jones sort of being in charge of a move towards theocracy, a Christian theocracy.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And you're going to see this sort of be established throughout this clip.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And it's...
If you pair it with him being a drunk on the streets, it's pretty funny.
But if you take it just of like, oh, this is the stated objective, it's incredibly scary.
So get ready to get a little bit scared and a little bit funny.
alex jones
And that providence that started back in 1776.
He invoked it.
It was so historical.
And I knew they were going to invoke it.
It just came into my mind.
And I knew, even though he hasn't given the speech, and I haven't talked to Trump about this, I knew what was about to happen.
And I said, I've got a tweet that they're going to re-invoke the birthright.
I could just feel it.
Because that's really what this is.
And then the media was asking me, even the New York Times had seen the tweet, they said, did you talk to Trump?
I mean, how did you know it was in a speech nobody else did?
And I said, no.
This is Americana.
You understand?
We're reading the same book.
It's the same spirit.
So I will tell them what I've talked about with Trump.
The spirit of America.
Can you feel it rising?
Trump feels it.
He knows it.
He loves it.
And he wants to serve the people and empower the people to have America be incredibly wealthy again and empower the globe.
jordan holmes
The coming in and away from the microphone is definitely a drug.
dan friesen
It's pro.
jordan holmes
He wants to empower, empower, empower.
dan friesen
I don't think he's drunk in this clip, but I think he's probably hungover.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or maybe not.
Maybe all of his weirdo supplements are actually hangover cures.
Maybe that's the secret all along.
jordan holmes
That could have been the secret.
dan friesen
If you're hungover, take super male vitality.
jordan holmes
You need vitality.
dan friesen
Boom.
jordan holmes
Right back to it.
dan friesen
And if it is, I gotta order something.
jordan holmes
The most telling thing that he said was, I haven't talked to Trump about it.
dan friesen
No, no.
He said, I have.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
He said I haven't.
dan friesen
Not the tweet.
jordan holmes
No, I swear to God he said he hasn't talked to Trump about it.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
Okay, the tweet and the Providence ideas he didn't talk to Trump about.
But what he has talked to him about is the spirit of America rising.
jordan holmes
Play that again.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Because I swear, because the media asked the speech, and I haven't talked to Trump about this.
Haven't talked to Trump about it.
alex jones
I knew what was about to happen, and I said, I've got a tweet that they're going to re-invoke the birthright.
I can just feel it, because that's really what this is.
And then the media was asking me, even the New York Times had seen the tweet, they said, did you talk to Trump?
How did you know it was in a speech?
Nobody else did.
And I said, no, this is Americana.
You understand?
We're reading the same book.
It's the same spirit.
So I will tell them what I've talked about with Trump.
The spirit of America, can you feel it rise?
dan friesen
So he says that too, though, like at the end.
jordan holmes
He said he will talk to them, or he will talk to Trump.
I'm telling you, what he is saying is, one, the media asked him, they did not.
And two, he didn't talk to Trump, but there's a mind meld there.
So he is trying to, he's trying to...
Consider himself part of that when it's very clear that Trump is cutting off communication there.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's like an ex who's starting to move away from you and you're like, no, I gave them all their great ideas.
jordan holmes
We're on the same page.
dan friesen
You're protesting a little too much here.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
No, he is...
Afraid that he has lost all of that connection to Trump.
Because if he loses that connection, then the non-existent media questions become even more non-existent.
Somehow, even in his own imagination, he will have to admit, the media isn't talking to me anymore because I'm not a player anymore.
dan friesen
Yeah, all I've got is these weird dudes who come on my show.
You know, like, he does have a roster, like a cadre of weirdos who do come on his show pretty regularly, who are all just, like, on exactly the same page as him.
jordan holmes
One of us.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a pinhead thing.
jordan holmes
One of us.
unidentified
Google gaggle, Google gaggle, one of us.
jordan holmes
That's a reference to the 1920s movie Freaks.
dan friesen
Yeah, and miraculously, all the people who come on and share his opinions Skype in from rooms, bedrooms that look empty.
unidentified
Rooms.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, I think you nailed something.
jordan holmes
And then their moms are like, the pizza rolls are done!
Shut up, Mom!
It's the inauguration!
dan friesen
Mommy, I'm talking to Alex.
So you rightfully hit the nail on the head that Alex and Trump have some sort of a communication.
Possibly it's waning.
Alex has some things to say about that.
alex jones
The message we heard in this speech has been my message for over a decade.
I mean, longer than that.
But this is Americanism versus globalism.
So Trump isn't reading from my sheet of music.
It's the sheet of music that's reality.
And that's why it's so similar to what I say on the show and what you hear Trump say later.
And yes, Trump obviously does listen to the show.
He told me.
But let's just move past all that.
jordan holmes
Of course he does.
dan friesen
I like that.
That's his classic move, too.
Of course he does.
Let's just move past that.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Let's just move past that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, he listens to the show.
dan friesen
The president listened to my show.
He's told me.
But to be fair, that's not a lie.
jordan holmes
I don't think it's a lie, either.
dan friesen
When he was on, when Trump was on Alex's show...
jordan holmes
He said he was a listener.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he said that Alex's record has been spectacular.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, his history of...
jordan holmes
The other...
The other thing that I think is really scary is I don't think he's that much wrong about Trump giving his message.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Like, Trump is pulling from that kind of playbook there, which is the most frightening thing.
dan friesen
But that's, again, why I think it's important to do a show like this, is we have to illuminate the things that are being said.
On this source that our now president actually believes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he really does.
dan friesen
And I've said this over and over again at various states of intoxication when I'm talking to friends.
But I really sincerely think that people who haven't at all dwelled in weird parts of the internet are about to be very surprised by what happens.
Because some of our leaders and some of their advisors are beholden to or incredulous of really batty, dumb conspiracy shit.
And the consequences of that could be staggering.
jordan holmes
Well, and it's also because of that isolation where they're in their own world that just reinforces itself.
There's that constant feedback loop of...
And it's especially like with Alex Jones where he says something.
dan friesen
Yep.
He cites Infowars.com as his source.
jordan holmes
Right.
He cites Infowars.
Then one of his crazy callers also says it.
And then he cites one of those crazy callers as being...
People are talking about this.
You know, this whole, like, big circle of people.
dan friesen
It's not literally alive, but it's spiritually alive.
So, you know, the inauguration went off.
You know, there were a lot of people there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, oh, tons.
dan friesen
There were also a lot of very important people there.
Maybe people who were presidents in the past.
jordan holmes
Maybe people who were rich as balls.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
We're here.
This is a giant victory for humanity.
It is massive.
And looking at Michelle.
And looking at Obama up on the Jumbotron.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
When they were singing the Star Spangled Banner, Obama, with that arrogant, smug feeling that he's better than everybody, looked like he was dying.
He had a fake smile.
Michelle was frowning the entire time.
Because these are cult members who were put in power by the globalists so that they could help destroy the country and divide the nation.
They are absolutely evil and want poor people not to have a future.
That's why he goes to Africa and says, you can't have cars or air conditioning.
jordan holmes
There it was.
alex jones
Because he is literally there to hurt poor people across the board.
And they needed that face, though, as their cover to carry it out.
Donald Trump right now is making hundreds of phone calls a day trying to get jobs into Detroit, trying to get jobs into Atlanta.
dan friesen
So...
jordan holmes
Well, one, my fear there was we were going into a real racist place.
dan friesen
Or a transphobic place.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Pretending she's a man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which is fucking...
dan friesen
He showed a little bit of restraint there.
jordan holmes
He did.
I was...
Yeah, that calmed my fears a little bit there.
dan friesen
I could see that in your face.
jordan holmes
Then he went to Africa, which was not good.
dan friesen
Which I think it's time to fully deal with this.
I actually went and pulled the clip from Obama's speech that he gave that...
Keeps being referenced by Alex about how black people and poor people in foreign countries can't have cars.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And please enjoy this clip literally from Obama's speech that is being misrepresented repeatedly.
unidentified
I am so refreshed to hear Obama.
barack obama
Africa.
We're going to all have to work together to find ways in which collectively we reduce carbon, but we make sure that there's some differentiation so that...
Countries that are very wealthy are expected to do more.
And countries that are still developing, obviously they shouldn't be resigned to poverty simply because the West and Europe and America got there first.
That wouldn't be fair.
But everybody's going to have to do something.
Everybody's going to have to make some important choices here.
And I expect that it's going to be your generation that helps lead this because if we don't, it's going to be your generation that suffers the most.
Ultimately, if you think about all the youth that everybody's mentioned here in Africa, if everybody's raising living standards to the point where everybody's got a car and everybody's got air conditioning and everybody's got a big house, well, the planet will boil over unless we find new ways of producing energy.
dan friesen
So that's the clip that is...
jordan holmes
So that's the exact opposite of what he's insinuating it to be.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
And that's proof positive of Alex Jones not being interested in the truth and being just a complete liar.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
You build a fake narrative...
jordan holmes
God, aren't you going to miss that voice?
I'm going to miss that Obama voice so bad.
dan friesen
He'll be around.
jordan holmes
I love him.
You know, there's so many criticisms I have about Obama, especially regarding drone warfare, torture on so many prisoners of political means and not even war prisoners.
dan friesen
He released Chelsea Manning, which is great.
jordan holmes
Which is the best thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But there's still problems.
jordan holmes
Trying so fucking hard to make the best decision available to him at every time.
dan friesen
And you could hear it even in that clip.
In a minute of audio, he's able to lay out a problem, show both sides of it, and say where the considerations are.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We have a problem with carbon consumption, and it's causing...
Global issues.
jordan holmes
And it's not your fault.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
It's ours.
dan friesen
It's all of ours together, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
We didn't know it at the time.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
But we've gotten to this place now where if everybody used carbon emission stuff like we do, we would be totally fucked.
jordan holmes
But if we roll back all equally, you're still the ones most fucked.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's his entire point.
We're trying to do more of our part because we did more of the damage.
dan friesen
Yes.
And within that clip, he even clearly says, you know, we have to find a way to not resign you to poverty and not completely destroy the societies that we have built already.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
unidentified
Do you mean the thing that makes sense?
dan friesen
It's the literal opposite of what Alex says he's saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's fucking insanity.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Just saying that Obama hates poor people or that Trump is trying to bring jobs back whenever Obama brought all the jobs back.
dan friesen
Tons.
jordan holmes
Like, he did that with the auto bailout whenever it was so close to all of those places just being like, well, GM is gone.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, it was very close to that.
At no point in time does anybody ever give him the credit of being the guy who forced that shit through.
dan friesen
Right, and against principles to some extent.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Well, the end result of me not doing this is more abhorrent to my principles than saying, like, let's not bail out these businesses that made bad decisions.
jordan holmes
Which is why that...
dan friesen
That's being an adult!
jordan holmes
Yeah!
unidentified
That's...
jordan holmes
Where are the adults?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Where did they go, Friesen?
dan friesen
I'll tell you, they're not in occupied Texas.
jordan holmes
They are not there.
dan friesen
So, here's another fun clip to get to.
This is a little meandering towards the middle and end, but it starts with an awesome lie, and I'd like to remind you that statistically, I can confirm for you that 6% of Alex Jones' audience is under the age of 18. Correct.
Keep that in mind as this clip starts.
alex jones
The amount of young people, the amount of teenagers that are listeners, this is indicative of the huge, incredible awakening that is happening on a planetary scale, not just here.
So make no mistake, this revolution against globalism, this revolution against globalism...
is something that belongs to the people.
And Trump said that.
This revolution is about you.
You are what empowers it.
You are the future.
And we're going to get out of your way and let you have your destiny, have your dreams.
And we understand America's special in that destiny, and that as America goes, the rest of the world goes.
Washington envisioned all of this in his farewell address.
He saw this in Providence, in a vision.
And now it's all come true.
The enemy knew that, so that's why they always invoke the occult.
Invoke, don't talk about God.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
alex jones
Don't talk about Providence.
Don't say, you know, America's great and all this stuff.
To demoralize us not to have this birthright.
It's why they teach you in school how horrible, you know, the idea of American Providence and Manifest Destiny and all of this is.
and talk about the problems and crimes associated.
There's problems and crimes associated with any humans or any movement.
But overall, the greater destiny to defeat tyranny worldwide and to stop a great evil in the future.
And I believe it's going to be this republic in the future that defeats the entire world government, anti-human, eugenics-based...
Anti-human.
dan friesen
It's an anti-human, eugenics-based technocracy system.
That's almost like a Philip K. Dick line.
What is valis?
jordan holmes
Do you remember what valis stands for?
How do you get an anti-human eugenics technocracy?
Is he saying that we're going to turn...
Well, one, we've already established chimeras are real.
dan friesen
Right, and they need rights.
jordan holmes
Is he saying we're going to turn people into computers?
dan friesen
It's the singularity, my friend.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's coming.
No matter what we do.
Yeah, that's happening.
dan friesen
We already have cyborgs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're going to go with the gray goo theory.
dan friesen
Well, the eugenics part is basically just that's about abortion and Planned Parenthood.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The technocracy, I believe, is about the singularity and our growing reliance on a surveillance state and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Which is a legitimate fear.
dan friesen
If you want to complain about that, we can talk.
You know, that's fine.
I don't know what the...
I guess the anti-human part is just he thinks that they are satanic and hate people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he goes with the religion.
Do you...
Okay, here's where we're gonna get into another thing right there.
Is there any Christian principle he adheres to other than saying he's a Christian?
Huh.
dan friesen
I mean, it depends.
jordan holmes
Because he lies all the time, so we got that commandment knocked down.
dan friesen
That's one of the big ones.
jordan holmes
That's one of the big ones.
Perhaps the biggest one.
dan friesen
He doesn't honor his father because he claims that he did things he didn't do, clearly.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He lies about his dad's battlefield foam.
jordan holmes
What happened to his mom?
Does he have a mother?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Is he the first, like, Jesus to come from his dad's butt?
dan friesen
He's a chimera.
jordan holmes
He's a chimera!
Or a clone!
dan friesen
Could be.
jordan holmes
He could be a clone.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
That's a possibility there.
dan friesen
I don't actually know too much about his mom.
I feel like it might be in poor taste to do research about...
jordan holmes
I think leave her alone if she wants to be left alone.
dan friesen
His family that isn't invoked by him I have no interest in knowing about because it seems like sort of not fair game.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
His son, to the extent that he is an InfoWars reporter, is fair game.
But at the same time, I don't want to make fun of him because he's a kid.
jordan holmes
He's a kid.
dan friesen
His dad is fair game because he's brought up a ton and makes a weird toothpaste.
jordan holmes
Has his dad ever been on the show?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But also, oh, this is an announcement that needs to be made.
I don't have a clip of this, but the Infowars, on the last episode when we found out that they're selling body armor, I predicted that they're going to start selling guns, and now they have started selling gun parts.
jordan holmes
God, that's fucking...
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
They announced on the 14-hour broadcast that they're selling AR-15 lowers, which is the central piece of an AR-15, which is the gun that is most commonly used in mass shootings.
jordan holmes
Mass shooting.
dan friesen
Which is really problematic.
jordan holmes
It doesn't...
I'm kind of anti-human right now.
dan friesen
I'm pro-human, but I'm anti the choices we keep making.
jordan holmes
A technocracy is probably better than a gun-based economy?
Like, I don't know, man.
dan friesen
A bunch of crazy, paranoid, religious folks with guns.
jordan holmes
It is hard to make the argument that humans are a net positive for the Earth.
dan friesen
At this point.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Or even a net positive for each other.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, you know, there's...
There's always exceptions to rules, and there are some great people out there, but most of them seem pretty shitty.
That last clip, I think, illustrated one of the problems that I had with editing this up and getting these clips ready, and that is that this speech...
Is about 12 minutes of uninterrupted talking.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
He doesn't stop for a breath for like 10 minutes.
And he's just...
It's verbal jazz.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's scatting.
And I don't know where...
jordan holmes
Yeah, there can't be a through line to that.
Because even in that little clip, there was barely a little consistency in message there.
dan friesen
All it is is sort of like we beat the globalists.
jordan holmes
And it was like...
unidentified
Does he not...
jordan holmes
You know we committed, like, a lot of genocide?
Does he, like, not like the genocide?
dan friesen
Get this, that was the globalists that did that.
jordan holmes
God, there's just...
dan friesen
The patriots have never done that kind of thing.
jordan holmes
But the patriots that he likes from Texas tried to kill all the Mexicans.
Like, I love the remember the Alamo as, like, we're defending ourselves when it's like, no, you went to take all their stuff.
dan friesen
Remember parts of the Alamo.
That's really what the message is.
So this next clip, I don't remember exactly where it goes, but it's more bebopping and scatting having to do with the New World Order.
alex jones
Everything the New World Order's done has been designed to bring this country down because they can't have a big, free, open, wealthy nation state with a big, fat, middle class, upwardly mobile people inside this impoverished, anti-human world government system they're establishing.
The American system is too much competition for them.
They admit that in the white papers.
The British government 200 years ago wrote they couldn't compete with the American system.
And again, the British now are throwing off globalism.
They're throwing off these monotonous systems.
So this is an incredible...
It's an incredible time to be alive.
It is an amazing time to be alive.
And it is, quite frankly, so humbling and stunning the fact that we go through these crowds of people, people of every race, color, and creed are all just humans with red blood.
This is breaking the will of the media that's trying to...
dan friesen
You pan around that audience, by the way, and there's like...
jordan holmes
I bet it's a wait.
dan friesen
I would say 98%.
We do get some interviews a little bit later in these clips.
He manages to find the one black guy who's there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, God, that tokenism as a representative idea is so disappointing.
dan friesen
He interviews two people later, and one of them is a black guy who I think is a preacher, and the other is an incredibly angry Indian dude.
jordan holmes
Awesome.
dan friesen
That's a teaser for later.
jordan holmes
Was it actually Dinesh D'Souza?
dan friesen
I wish it was.
I think he's under house arrest.
jordan holmes
He's fucking nuts.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, but here's the thing in what he said that is...
Is actually true, which is that the fat middle class has been taken away.
There's no upward mobility at this point.
And his reasoning for it is so wrong.
Like, the people who have taken it away are the ones who are in control of the White House and the Congress right now.
And eventually the Supreme Court.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, it's people who are in business who have done this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, who did it on purpose.
Those people drive me insane because it's like, you have a billion dollars and you're using all this wealth and influence to turn that billion dollars...
Into $2 billion.
dan friesen
Or $1.2 billion.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you have no reason to do any of this other than this weird, sociopathic, greedy, like, mental illness.
dan friesen
I think what it is is that people who are really rich now, a lot of them are super jealous of old money.
There's new money and old money, and I think that people believe, this is kind of an assumption on my part, I don't have any facts to back this up, but I know that new money is kind of scoffed at, as opposed to the people who are like the Rockefellers, the Carnegies.
jordan holmes
Trump is very scoffed at.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that these billionaire folk, they're like, if we amass enough money, next generation will be old money.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's an idea that eventually they can become the new old money.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, and I do think that there is kind of some of that happening right now where...
dan friesen
That's their upward mobility.
jordan holmes
I'm sure they look down on those Silicon Valley billionaires.
dan friesen
Sure.
Zuckerbergs.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You guys don't even...
What, are you still going to wear a fucking hoodie?
Nouveau-Riche assholes.
dan friesen
Yeah, you can't show up without an ascot, you asshole.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can't show up without an ascot.
dan friesen
So this clip isn't done.
jordan holmes
That's the one true rule of knowledge fight, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
We're wearing ascots.
jordan holmes
We are always ascoting it up.
dan friesen
So here we go.
alex jones
Great racial division and trying to say that if you're not a white person, you can't, you know, have guns or private property or future.
You don't have the American birthright.
You don't have a future of wealth.
That's your enemy.
That's racist.
This is a cult programming to make people poor and make them the slaves of the globalists who all over the world will play different groups off against each other.
If it's Ukraine, they'll play Catholic off against Orthodox.
Or it's a country in Africa, they'll play the Christians off against the animus of the Muslims or vice versa.
It's all divide and conquer because the elite are destroying nation states and trying to make us poor.
jordan holmes
That's true!
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
That's 100% true!
unidentified
Well...
jordan holmes
I think he's absolutely right there.
I mean, it's not the globalists, although, I mean, if we're going to use globalists as a blanket term, but, you know, just going by post-Reconstruction era South, how do you get...
Wealthy people to stay wealthy.
And poor people to stay poor.
dan friesen
Have two groups of poor people fight with each other.
Exactly.
jordan holmes
It's such an old...
Perfect strategy that always works.
dan friesen
Well, this is, again, one of those points where whenever Alex is talking bullshit, we kind of have to stop and say, like, when you got a good point.
jordan holmes
That's a perfectly good point.
I wish it wasn't directed at an imaginary enemy.
dan friesen
Well, that's the thing, is, like, you have a good point, we agree with your diagnosis, but we don't agree with your idea of how to treat it or what caused it.
You're describing a problem, but everything else around it is wackadoo.
It's Leanne wackadoo.
jordan holmes
How did we not come up with that before?
dan friesen
I probably have before.
jordan holmes
How are we on seven episodes or six episodes or whatever?
dan friesen
I can't even keep track of how many we've done.
jordan holmes
Leanne Wackadoo.
dan friesen
But I want to jump straight into this next clip because you're going to lose a little bit of respect for him.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Whatever he built up there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, he did a couple of good jobs in a row.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he's going to...
Yeah, here we go.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
alex jones
So, America...
Died, basically, in the last few years.
It was a globalist program.
Bush's and Clinton's behind it with criminal elements of the intelligence agencies.
But America isn't just a person.
Sure, a person doesn't get resurrected unless it's Jesus or Lazarus.
But a country can come back from the dead.
And America began to come back from the dead in the last few months.
And now has come back to life.
The phoenix is coming up right now.
And how...
Powerful that phoenix is.
How incredible that destiny is.
He's up to us.
We are what breathes life into the spirit, it into us.
And the enemy knows everything's energy.
You see, forget all the religious books and all the stuff you can hear from the preachers who are there to control the paradigm.
The enemy wants to destroy our spirit, make us feel weak, so we don't take our birthright and destiny.
We're taking the destiny in our hands, we're breathing life into it, and those devil worshippers up there, the enemy, Chuckie Schumer, devil worshipper, Obama, devil worshipper, it's well known.
These are devil worshippers.
What's a devil worshipper?
They want to earn other people.
They want to be number one.
They don't like seeing somebody succeed.
dan friesen
It's in the white papers.
alex jones
Okay?
unidentified
What's somebody that wants prosperity and renaissance?
alex jones
They want wealth, a cornucopia.
They're not jealous of somebody who's got a big house or a good-looking wife or vice I think your success is great.
These people are devil worshippers, and what happened today was...
The chief executive invited God back in and said, the door's open, and instead of the people, the door's open now to you.
If you want this birthright, if you want goodness, we've all got to be good, and we've got to come together, and we've got to, whether you're black hired white people, if you're white hired black people, whatever.
jordan holmes
He only knows two types of people.
alex jones
Issues that we stand for, and what we believe in, and transcend all the control.
unidentified
Did Trump say any of that?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I don't think he did.
I don't think he asked people to come together.
He definitely didn't invoke God or providence.
dan friesen
I think he did a little bit.
jordan holmes
Did he?
dan friesen
He gave overtures towards Jesus.
jordan holmes
Because all of the...
Like, I couldn't...
I could not listen to any of it.
dan friesen
No way.
jordan holmes
Without vomiting.
Like, I just couldn't do it.
dan friesen
No way.
jordan holmes
But I did see a couple of those, like, the list of words that have never been said in an inauguration.
unidentified
Carnage.
jordan holmes
Carnage, yeah.
Yeah, there was no message of hope, and yes, we can.
There was pure, like, this country is turning into a monstrous nightmare!
dan friesen
We're all gonna die.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Which is, I mean, hey, another point we can all agree on.
jordan holmes
We can all agree on that.
dan friesen
Yeah, we're all dead.
jordan holmes
For different reasons, but...
It's all there.
dan friesen
Well, I think that we talk about confirmation bias a bunch on the show, and I think it is one of those things that there are other logical fallacies you can be beholden to, and one of them is...
Actually, I think it is still just confirmation bias.
You believe whatever you want to believe, and you read into things whatever you want to read into them.
And so if you hear Trump go up there and vaguely mention religion, you'd be like, he's brought God back.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was the main part of his speech because he said a little bit about it.
dan friesen
Well, it's the same thing with this, we have to say radical Islam.
jordan holmes
Right.
Or digital Dropbox.
dan friesen
Dirty dossier.
But the premise that we have to say it or else we can't tackle it.
It's such bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, the idea that we have to use these precise words, so if someone does say radical Islam, all of a sudden, it becomes code for, oh, they believe everything I believe.
jordan holmes
Well, and then the argument for Trump only briefly mentioning it is, like, he can't say it directly, otherwise people will know.
dan friesen
No, dude, did you see that speech?
I think it was at the CIA meeting that he had.
He said...
No, no, no.
It was one of the previous speeches that he gave.
He was like...
We're going to take down radical Islam.
You have to say it, folks.
You just have to say the words.
Like, fuck off.
You're buying into that narrative now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Also, did Alex Jones just say it's all energy?
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
He just said it's all energy.
dan friesen
He's gone full hippie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he left the Christian train and was just like, hey, man, guy is real.
The spirit of the earth.
Have you guys ever played Final Fantasy VII?
You remember when the bubble ended up?
Yeah, that's Gaia.
dan friesen
Now, I know that we're making a hard sales pitch on this body armor, but one of the things I should tell you is it will align your chakras.
It will get your kundalini rising.
jordan holmes
Have you seen the pineal gland on people who are wearing these?
It is insane.
The third eye awakens.
dan friesen
But that's why he sells the water filtration devices, because the fluoride in the water calcifies your pineal gland.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
I'm actually not 100% sure that's bullshit, but Alex has never said that.
That might just be something I read on some weird hippie website.
jordan holmes
I'm not too worried about crystals.
dan friesen
So at this point, Alex gets into a little bit of a straw man attack about Russia, which is kind of fun.
To give you some sort of a little bit of a setup to this, Maxine Waters was being interviewed on TV.
jordan holmes
Who's Maxine Waters?
dan friesen
She's a Democratic House member, I believe.
jordan holmes
I should know that, otherwise I'm never going to make the right phone call.
dan friesen
She gives bad interviews, is the problem.
So when she's on TV, she'll often say things in ways that are really easy to attack.
So she becomes sort of a lightning rod for Republican attacks.
She ends up being attacked a ton.
jordan holmes
Which is why she's invited back onto those shows, because it's going to create that dumb drama.
dan friesen
Yeah, and most recently she was talking about how if it comes out that the Russians were consulting with Trump about his campaign and how to frame things like saying that Hillary is crooked and saying that she's sick, then these should be impeachable offenses.
jordan holmes
Is that technically treason?
I feel like any time, even in the Constitution, it says if there's a foreign agent that influences the election.
dan friesen
I don't think that's specifically in the definition of treason.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
They very specifically define what it is.
I don't think it may actually be.
I think he might have committed other treasons, but I don't think this one is.
jordan holmes
Better treasons.
dan friesen
But it's an impeachable offense.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Absolutely an impeachable offense.
dan friesen
The way she was setting it up, and it's very clear if you go watch the clip, is if we find out that this is the case, then...
That is an impeachable effect.
jordan holmes
It is a perfectly logical statement to say.
dan friesen
But the way she...
jordan holmes
Under all the math of logic.
dan friesen
But what she should have said, I agree, because I studied tons of logic, formal logic in college.
I understand exactly how A, B, C, modus ponens works.
jordan holmes
At the University of Missouri veterinary program.
dan friesen
Veterinary logics.
So...
jordan holmes
If this dog is old...
Then we fucking cool it.
dan friesen
The problem is that she, instead of saying, if we find that he was consulting with Russia, then we'd have to act on that.
She used specific examples, like, if the crooked Hillary came from them.
And that's where you open yourself up to attack.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Because we know the tricks that Alex plays.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He hears that and he's like, oh, Maxine Waters is accusing Russia of coming up with Crooked Hillary.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Which isn't true.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He even has played the clip on the show and then attacked it and been like, that's not what she said.
It's insane.
jordan holmes
That's bananas.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So here he goes off on that a little bit and commits an incredible straw man fallacy, arguing against an argument that no one has made.
jordan holmes
Oh, wonderful.
alex jones
The media pushed way too hard with all the race garbage.
Now they're saying he's a Russian spy.
Now they're saying they've got communiques with him and the Russians.
Literally now, he tells.
It's not just Maxine Waters.
It's the New York Times now says that Putin actually told him Hillary was crooked.
That's right, America.
You can't have your own ideas.
You can't have a strong leader.
The Russians are the reason Trump got elected.
And everything comes from the Russians.
Everybody knows that's BS.
Nothing against the Russians, but we...
America thinks a lot of stuff, too.
jordan holmes
Can't say anything against the Russians, though.
alex jones
Yeah, I mean, give me a break.
You don't think we can't come up with crooked Hillary?
Hell, somebody with a lobotomy can come up with that.
Don't be that smart to come up with crooked Hillary.
unidentified
You're right.
dan friesen
You like that?
jordan holmes
You're right!
dan friesen
You like that at the end?
jordan holmes
I agree!
dan friesen
You do hear a lot of claps, and I think they're over-miking it.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How many people are there?
dan friesen
I would say a liberal estimate.
It would be like 75. What would a progtard estimate be?
A progtard estimate, since that's me, I would estimate it at like 75. But I'm being generous.
It could have been lower.
It's not a thick crowd.
It's maybe like three deep.
But there are people circling him, kind of.
He's in the round.
He's like he's doing Shakespeare in the round.
jordan holmes
There are people circling him.
dan friesen
Yeah, like sharks.
jordan holmes
Like an atom.
Like, he's the nucleus of this weird atom of insanity.
Has the New York Times said any of what he said?
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't know, because, look, I don't have LexisNexis.
I'm not going to be able to...
jordan holmes
You should get LexisNexis.
dan friesen
I'm not going to be able to try and, like, search through all of their articles and see, like, oh, do they talk about...
Russians and Crooked Hillary.
But I know what Maxine Waters said, and he's misrepresenting that, so it has to be the case that he's also lying about the times.
jordan holmes
Now, here is the next question there.
Also, God, I love nothing against the Russians.
You know, like, alright, that's a little bit right on the cusp there.
unidentified
You're showing a little bit of your hand.
jordan holmes
I think it's clear that Russia did influence the election in some fashion.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
To what extent?
Don't know.
dan friesen
It's debatable.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And it's debatable what means what.
In terms of what legitimate effect certain things they did have.
I think it's almost undeniable at this point that...
They were in contact with Trump.
jordan holmes
I think they were.
dan friesen
And his operatives are...
jordan holmes
Which is illegal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And multiple people who are very closely connected with Trump are literally under investigation.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And that thing about they say they have communiques, they do.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
They do.
jordan holmes
Well, and if you're the CIA or the NSA and you have the information potentially necessary to...
Undeniably impeach Trump.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How can you not release that?
dan friesen
I think you'd have to wait until he was actually inaugurated.
So we might see some of that happen now.
jordan holmes
Do you think we'll see that tomorrow?
dan friesen
Well, because if it happened before he was inaugurated, we'd enter a constitutional crisis.
jordan holmes
There would be a whole...
Yeah, do we have another election?
dan friesen
Do we have a new president?
Is Obama president again?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Or is it the Speaker of the House, since we don't have a president or a vice president?
dan friesen
President Paul Ryan?
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Fucking, let's kill us.
dan friesen
But at the end of the day...
jordan holmes
Kill me first.
dan friesen
You enter a bigger crisis necessarily than you need.
Whereas if it is true that they have this evidence that he's compromised, maybe they do, maybe they don't.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
But if they do, you wait until he's in office and then deal with it through the channels we already have.
jordan holmes
Here's my next question.
Is there any benefit for the GOP to not impeach Trump?
It seems like if you're in the GOP...
You got the absolute best case scenario in that you have an easily impeachable, uncontrollable idiot as your president with a vice president who is everything you actually want in the president.
In that he hates women.
He doesn't hate women, but he wants them to never have control over their own bodies again.
dan friesen
Right, right.
That's not hate.
Don't put words in his mouth.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would never say that.
dan friesen
Well, I think what you're getting to is the idea of, is there anything to gain by not doing it?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're sort of touching on the same thing that Trump and Alex Jones have.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's like Alex has outlived his usefulness to Trump.
jordan holmes
And Trump has outlived his usefulness to the GOP.
dan friesen
Now, the only issue with that is that Trump does have a sizable fan base.
Of weirdos.
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
So, if you are the GOP and you sign off on this impeachment proceedings...
jordan holmes
Then in two years, your elections are done.
dan friesen
Everybody doesn't show up for you.
Everything swings either to these weird fringe libertarian sides...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
...or Democrats.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then you've completely lost...
All of your political power.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I think that's the usefulness he has in that there's a threat to going against him.
But there's no upside other than avoiding that threat.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Which, and if you can even put together a base understanding of what they're going to do in the next two years, how can you possibly imagine that they're going to maintain their majority in the House and the Senate?
dan friesen
I think it would be impossible.
Especially based on the turnouts of those marches.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Because it's going to get worse.
jordan holmes
And if we're talking about those kind of turnouts, then that could be the, like, now we're not talking about a 48% voter turnout.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Now we're talking about some real shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I also think that it's important that a lot of other countries have the ability to vote no confidence in your leaders.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So, like, if you have a prime minister or a president and they're doing a shit job, People can just introduce measures to be like, let's vote on whether he should get out.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And we don't have that.
jordan holmes
No, we have to full-on criminalize it.
dan friesen
And we really should introduce that.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
The ability to vote no confidence, because if we had that now, he'd be gone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but then there's also that kind of separation of powers element wherein if you have a Congress like the one we have now that's completely controlled by one...
By one party, imagine we're in a different situation where it's all Democrats and a Republican president, right?
So you go with a vote of no confidence and all of a sudden the Democrats control everything.
Or one party controls everything.
dan friesen
But the vote of no confidence isn't done by the people in the Senate.
It's done by a general election vote.
jordan holmes
In what countries?
dan friesen
I'm not sure if that...
jordan holmes
Because I'm fairly certain that's not how that works in...
I mean, in the UK, which is the other main political system that I follow.
dan friesen
I believe in Canada it's that way.
I'm not sure.
But maybe I'm concocting something that doesn't exist, but it should exist.
jordan holmes
It should exist.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Hey, you know what time it is?
jordan holmes
What time is it?
dan friesen
It's time to pray.
jordan holmes
It's time to pray?
dan friesen
You know my favorite thing in the world is Alex trying to pray and also...
jordan holmes
Oh no, he prays again?
dan friesen
And also my second favorite thing is him fake crying.
jordan holmes
This clip.
dan friesen
Has both.
jordan holmes
Oh, yes.
alex jones
So this is history happening right now.
I'm going to skip this network break, and David Knight and the crew can pop me whenever they want here, but I'm going to go get settled down at an office and just take a shower or something and just get on my knees and pray to God.
I'll be honest with you, I want to get in a room by myself and hit my knees and start crying, because...
jordan holmes
Oh, there it is.
This is so good!
Oh, God, that's fake as fuck.
alex jones
The evil's going to strike back, but we've got to be watching them, we've got to be ready, but we know who they are, we know their plan, and I've got to say it, it's been InfoWars, it's been InfoWars, and you the people, and our...
jordan holmes
Did somebody say bullshit?
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
And that's what kicked him out of his fake crying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's what got him to be like, uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Crowd's turning.
That's my favorite thing in the world.
He is so over the top and obvious.
jordan holmes
The thing he least wants to do is get into a room by himself at this point.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
If he doesn't get that attention, then he's really going to spiral into a depression, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, Rob Do is following him around everywhere.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
On suicide watch.
jordan holmes
I don't know if he's on suicide watch so much as it is, like, he is finally doing some introspecting that he has not had to do.
In a long, long time.
dan friesen
I kind of imagine it being like Rob Dew is following him around, taking the bottle of wild turkey from him.
That's kind of how I picture it.
Like, no, dude, you've got to get back on the air.
Come on.
unidentified
Come on.
dan friesen
He's on, like, babysitting patrol.
jordan holmes
That, I believe, yeah.
dan friesen
Here's a clip.
Oh, this starts right after that one.
I wanted to keep that one separate, though, because the fake crying is great.
jordan holmes
The fake crying is such bullshit.
dan friesen
Here he goes in to explain who is part of the Infowar.
alex jones
And our analysis has led the way as the blueprint battle plan to blow the hell out of them.
I'll tell you, people always want me to take credit.
I'm a humble person, but we need to take credit just to know what we're doing is working.
Infowars and our guests and myself and you, the listeners.
The eyes and ears on the ground and Matt Drudge and all of us together are the Infowar.
We are the blueprint of the operating system that just kicked the New World Order's ass!
unidentified
We got it!
alex jones
It's America 2.0, supercharged, ready, coming, committed!
And our spirit, Trump sure is a thousand to one, and our president's even got the name Trump!
So get ready!
Yeah!
unidentified
Girl!
Woo!
Yeah!
It's 1776!
jordan holmes
Hey, what's it get in here?
dan friesen
Yuck.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's brutal.
dan friesen
He's very humble, though.
I will say that.
jordan holmes
I don't think there's been an episode we've done where he's not insisted on how humble he is.
dan friesen
Yeah, well, I mean, it's that old adage.
It's like, of all of my great attributes, my humility stands first of them all.
You know, it's that sort of thing.
jordan holmes
I am the most humble person in the history of the world.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's like you're going for a job interview.
What are your strengths?
Well, maybe I'm too good.
Maybe I'm too good at being humble.
jordan holmes
I'm just too much of a hard worker.
dan friesen
So now at this point in his ramble out in front of these...
60 to 70 people who are overly miked.
Someone who may be from another press organization comes in to ask him a question.
jordan holmes
Who may be?
dan friesen
Who might be.
jordan holmes
Are we going to commit to the...
dan friesen
He is.
But I don't want to tip my hat about who he is because it's maybe a little bit of cross-marketing.
alex jones
God bless you.
God bless you.
Hey, it's okay to love freedom.
It's okay to be strong.
Here's the deal.
We're not just getting hyped up by Trump and then feeling good.
We have the tools.
We have the means.
We have the history.
We got the pedigree.
We got it all.
Everybody here is America.
And as long as you see the globalists bring people in, turn them against America, we're going to be able to bring a lot of people in once they're not getting brainwashed as soon as they get here.
It's an incredible time to be alive.
Go ahead, sir.
unidentified
I'm with Breitbart.
What did you think of this?
He really laid the wood to him.
alex jones
He laid the wood to him, but he empowered the people and let them know you are this revolution.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Breitbart.
dan friesen
Taking a question from Breitbart, and the question was, did Trump really lay the wood to him?
jordan holmes
What?
That's a great...
That's a post-game question to like a...
That's like a football game question.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
You really took it to him, this game.
I just want to thank God for giving us a president named Trump.
dan friesen
Yeah, his name is Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It was 1,000 to 1, which...
dan friesen
Listen, he laid it all out there on the dais.
He really left it in the speaker's hands.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I just want to thank God for giving me the...
dan friesen
Yeah, fucking Breitbart.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
Breitbart.
Well, you know, the chief strategist of the White House should have a say in who asks questions.
dan friesen
To Alex Jones when he's maybe drunk on the street.
So he allows Breitbart guy to ask him a couple questions that are all really...
jordan holmes
Softball.
dan friesen
They're meatballs.
He can just knock out of the park.
Yeah, Trump is great.
Chuck Schumer sucks.
Those sorts of things.
jordan holmes
What's your favorite Sunday?
dan friesen
The one when I go to church.
Or are you talking ice cream?
I don't eat that anymore because I take supplements.
jordan holmes
Ice cream supplements.
dan friesen
We have super male ice cream vitality.
jordan holmes
God, I would eat that.
dan friesen
I would too.
jordan holmes
I bet that's delicious.
dan friesen
Ice cream that gives you a boner.
So here's another question about the spirituality that's going on.
Also from the Breitbart Reporter.
unidentified
It was a very spiritual speech, unlike a lot of the rally speeches.
alex jones
And I tweeted!
Right before, I said he's going to invoke the providence.
He's going to invoke the covenant.
And he did it.
Because that's the key.
Listen, I didn't even be that much of a religious person until I got deeper in and studied these people.
They all understand that they have to get God out, not let us feel empowered, not let us know about America's destiny, not teach what George Washington said.
They need to kill that narrative.
Because from their atheist or globalist view, from psychological view, it gives us a culture that unifies us.
So they've been killing our culture, and then they've been bringing in this alien culture.
We have a picture of everybody hating each other and fighting with each other and trying to bring us down, but then while they suck and sap our energy.
The second phase of slavery just fell today.
Humans are trying to progress into the future.
That's why they call themselves the progressives.
They're the opposite.
They're not the progressives.
unidentified
Regressives.
alex jones
Yeah, exactly.
They're regressives.
That's what the Jacobin Party was about.
And that's what the Democrats were called was the Jacobin or French Revolution Party.
They wanted to regress everything and basically set up their own new tyranny.
What you're seeing here is the real Renaissance, and what you're seeing here is the real 1776.
jordan holmes
George Washington quote, guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.
Interesting.
dan friesen
Interesting quote.
jordan holmes
George Washington quote, if the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
dan friesen
Interesting quote.
Any more?
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's see.
dan friesen
In the last week or so, Alex has also been up on this.
He has a word-a-day calendar where today's word is providence.
jordan holmes
Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.
dan friesen
That's...
Bingo.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Strange how that one...
I hate it when people don't teach what George...
I really do!
dan friesen
But this is George Washington 2.0.
jordan holmes
Ah!
I didn't consider that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he also, in his Word of Day calendar, he's got Providence.
jordan holmes
Providence.
dan friesen
Birthright.
jordan holmes
Loves Rhode Island.
dan friesen
And then also the other one is Jacobin.
He's been talking about the Jacobin party for the last few days.
jordan holmes
The French Revolutions, yeah.
Does he know how that worked out in the end?
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Does he have any idea what happened next?
Does he know about the terror?
dan friesen
But you know what he does know?
He doesn't know about that stuff.
But what he does know is that no one else does.
The people listening don't know.
jordan holmes
No, they have no idea.
dan friesen
And Jacobin sounds like a sort of...
jordan holmes
It sounds like Lutheran.
dan friesen
Kind of.
jordan holmes
It has that religious feel to it.
dan friesen
It has a religious feel.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
You can talk about the Maccabees and stuff like that, and no one knows what you're referring to.
And that's why a lot of these pseudo-religious people who scream talk about the Book of Enoch and Gnostic shit.
And they've never read the stuff.
They don't actually know what these things say, but they know that the people they're talking to don't either.
And it's the same thing with the Jacobins stuff.
It's like, that's where the Democrats come from.
unidentified
Eh.
God.
dan friesen
Not really.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So, do you have any information you'd like to share with our listeners about the Jacobins?
jordan holmes
Um, as far as that goes, the timeline of the French Revolution begins with a good idea.
And ends with a lot of people getting their heads chopped off who maybe didn't have it coming.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
And then it further ends with, I don't know, an autocratic dictator appearing based on a war-like society.
dan friesen
These people who had their heads cut off were the Jacobins.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, hmm.
Regressive.
jordan holmes
Strange how that works.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Strange!
dan friesen
So at this point, an African-American shows up.
unidentified
A mighty American.
dan friesen
I say mighty because he's got a great hat on.
I'll say this.
He looks great.
jordan holmes
What kind of hat?
Bowler?
dan friesen
No, just like a gentleman's hat.
That's how I'd describe it.
He's like out of Mad Men.
Oh, that's nice.
jordan holmes
Is he wearing a vest as well?
Because that's the way you wear that hat.
dan friesen
As I recall, he's got a full suit on.
And a nice coat.
jordan holmes
That's awesome.
dan friesen
Yeah, he looks great.
And Alex says as much at the beginning of this clip.
unidentified
Okay, good.
jordan holmes
It's still on here.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
Yes, sir.
God bless you.
Anybody else want to get on TV?
Here, sir, come on in here.
Sharp-dressed fella.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
What's your name, sir?
marshall mcgill
Marshall McGill.
alex jones
Marshall McGill.
Talk to folks.
Here, take over.
marshall mcgill
Hey, hey, you know what?
Today was the beginning of something new.
We've been waiting for this for a long time.
And, you know, the most important thing I saw today was that our president is putting back America first.
I don't think he said that.
14 and 30 that righteousness exalts a nation and sin brings it down.
alex jones
That's it.
He brought the power back in.
marshall mcgill
There you go.
We can't do anything without God.
And when we put God first, nothing will be impossible for us.
So the most important thing it is today out of all the different agendas and so forth was putting God first.
And if we seek God first, everything else will be added So one of the things that I think is really fascinating is when your team says something about God, It's like, oh, this is a sign that God is coming back.
dan friesen
But when your opposite side says something about God, it's like...
jordan holmes
Then he's a secret Muslim.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he's falsely pretending to use the word of God as a weapon.
jordan holmes
Well, the brilliance of the Bible is that you can kind of say whatever the fuck you want about it.
dan friesen
Sure, especially if you...
jordan holmes
It's everything.
Like, even in the...
Even in what?
Is it the Old Testament where it says the devil can quote the Bible as well?
Like, it's all just...
dan friesen
I don't think there's any reference of the devil.
jordan holmes
In the Bible?
Well, it's not necessarily the devil, but it's evil.
dan friesen
But also, this is the thing that always drives me up a fucking wall, is that if you...
jordan holmes
Fiat?
Fiat's always driving you up a wall?
dan friesen
People who are religious refuse to acknowledge that one of the big parts of Jesus...
Is that he undid the Old Covenant.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
The Old Covenant that is in the Old Testament is null and void.
jordan holmes
Well, the Council of Trent genuinely had that conversation where they're like, maybe we should just get rid of the Old Testament.
dan friesen
It's there.
It's as important as maybe a historical document.
jordan holmes
It is one of the great, like...
What if, like, a Philip K. Dick alternate history of what if we got rid of the Old Testament?
dan friesen
A man in the high castle, but about only the New Testament existing?
jordan holmes
Yeah, God, that would be, like, the, you know, there's no utopia coming out of that, but I do think the world is a much better place if an eye for an eye is replaced by turn the other cheek.
dan friesen
Yeah, if you only use the teachings of Jesus, you are in a better state.
jordan holmes
There's still problems.
If you just use the four Gospels, you're in a much better state.
The letters, the epistles are all fucking horrifying.
dan friesen
Well, that's because Paul was a crazy dude.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, Timothy was a dick.
dan friesen
But even taking those letters...
jordan holmes
Timothy was a dick is my review of the Bible on Amazon.
I give it one star because Timothy was a dick.
dan friesen
If you take all those people who were really involved with building the early church, think about who those people would be nowadays.
They would be crazy people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They were crazy cult members who...
Wanted power, probably, and they built this system wherein they could get some power, which was within this burgeoning church.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I agree.
jordan holmes
They were, like, that's the interesting thing about that, is it was the reverse of most cults, where good people are the ones being taken advantage by the cult leader, and in this circumstance it is kind of like, they were taking advantage of the fact that Jesus...
Preach, like, love, which everybody is on board with.
dan friesen
Which might be why it was so effective.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, and also why it was so dangerous.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Why they had to kill that guy is because he was like, hey, maybe this whole patriarchy with a, you know...
dan friesen
Kill him!
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But also, there's some indications, if you go into it and look through historical records and stuff like that, that there's a decent chance that they might have gotten their records confused.
And that the Jesus who was the rabbi wasn't actually ever crucified.
It was another guy named Jesus.
jordan holmes
It was actually a guy named Jesus.
It was a really weird coincidence.
dan friesen
What was he doing?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know.
He was an illegal immigrant.
That much I know to Jerusalem.
dan friesen
We can't say this for certainty or prove it, but there are a lot of experts who believe that there were two Jesuses historically, and they've been conflated into one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, and also the Jesus, the whole miracle story is the same one that Mithras had.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
You know, like the whole thing is just a mishmash and a hodgepodge of all these other religions co-opt.
dan friesen
But if you take a lot of the teachings, you take all the sort of miracles and stuff out of it and you just take the teachings.
jordan holmes
Like the T.J. Jefferson did.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Thomas Jefferson had a Bible where he removed all of the miraculous parts.
unidentified
The magical, the YA novel kind of stuff.
dan friesen
You take that out.
jordan holmes
The Hunger Games portions.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so this interview goes on a little bit more, and it gets more and more religious as it goes.
alex jones
I want to warn the elite.
Even if they kill Trump, the spirit is us, as we kept saying.
It's already been opened up.
It's already rising.
And they're not going to stop it.
All of the world countries are trying to get out from under the globalists.
The globalists are very, very evil.
And they're trying to set up their world government that the Bible tells us about.
These are evil people.
marshall mcgill
We're living in the last days.
We're living in perilous times.
And the Bible says that the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violence is taken by force.
We can no longer be passive.
We can no longer sit back and watch our country go to hell.
We can't do that.
We've got to stand up for what is right, and we've got to take our positions as men and women of God, not just for us, but we're going to be judged by what happens to the generations behind us.
So it's imperative that we take a stand up for what is right, and we're going to have differences.
We're going to have disagreements.
We're not going to always go together on everything, but the most important thing that we can do is agree to disagree and then in peace seek the higher position of that particular principle or whatever we're debating on.
jordan holmes
That seems to go against Alex Jones'whole thing.
marshall mcgill
I believe that today America has taken a step.
And you know what?
It's not just America, but there are countries all around the world that have been waiting on us to do this.
The Bible says in Romans 87, This guy is just showing off his Bible knowledge.
He might be a preacher.
There are people out there waiting for America to take its stand again.
Like in the Bible.
Have you ever felt the Spirit stronger than today?
dan friesen
That's sad, but also I want to say a couple things.
jordan holmes
That's really sad that he's never felt the spirit stronger than that day.
unidentified
Than that day.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that seems to go against all of the spirit.
dan friesen
Yeah, the spirit's really fucking up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the spirit really shouldn't be dependent on the president, right?
dan friesen
I would think not.
But he says the couple things that I think are sort of in opposition with himself.
He's saying that we should agree to disagree about stuff and look for the higher principle.
It's like, just taking those words, I agree that there's some value in that.
But you can't do that when the other side is...
You can't do that.
jordan holmes
The thing that you saw where that one white supremacist got punched in the face.
dan friesen
Richard Spencer?
jordan holmes
Yeah, and people are like, that's the violence of the protesters.
But there's that...
He's a literal Nazi.
He's a literal Nazi.
Can't we punch Nazis?
dan friesen
He's advocated for black genocide.
jordan holmes
Isn't that the most American thing you can do is punch Nazis, right?
dan friesen
I have two thoughts about it, and I think they're both equally valid.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
One was that it was amazingly cathartic, and I can't lie, I watched that clip like 15 times.
jordan holmes
15 times, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But I also see the bad optics of it.
I see that it's...
Just because you disagree with someone, even if you disagree with them intensely, it doesn't mean you should assault them.
I don't think that person did anything wrong, but I probably wouldn't have done it myself.
Even though I would want to.
jordan holmes
No, I would probably...
Well, no, but I'm not a violent dude by nature.
But then again, it is like...
He's a Nazi!
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
There's no defense for Nazis.
Now, there's a defense for Nazis being allowed to, or Nazis not being put in prison for espousing their dumb belief.
dan friesen
Sure, that goes into free speech.
jordan holmes
That is freedom of speech.
You cannot be taken apart by the government.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But if you get punched in the face for being a Nazi, I'm cool with that.
dan friesen
It kind of comes with the territory.
jordan holmes
Because how many times have...
I don't know, Nazis or white supremacists just fucking straight up murdered everybody.
I'm bummed out about...
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this guy, he keeps getting interviewed.
jordan holmes
Here's one thing that I wanted to talk about from the first clip right before the last one that we played.
Whenever he was talking about...
It's time for America to put themselves first.
He said it's okay if everybody else puts themselves first because America's going to do that for themselves.
That is the single most we're all going to fight a war thing you can possibly say.
dan friesen
If we all put ourselves first, then how do you ever have international compromise?
jordan holmes
If you do not put humans first, then you're literally going...
When you come up against...
The other country that puts themselves first.
In any conflict, now there's always a zero-sum game.
Always.
dan friesen
Always.
jordan holmes
Even though that's going to wind up being more damaging to both parties.
dan friesen
Well, I think that the nobility of sacrifice has kind of been lost on people.
Like this.
You know, the idea of like, look, we can all play.
Actually, if they would just sit down and look at the prisoner's dilemma, I think they might actually be able to realize.
jordan holmes
Their entire concept would fall apart.
They couldn't understand the prisoner's dilemma.
I guarantee that they would have no concept.
dan friesen
But just the idea that sometimes collaboration is the best possible outcome, even though you individually would get more by turning your back on your partner.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's insane to me that people aren't able to have these abstract thoughts of like, we can all do better together if we work together, although it doesn't appear that way.
Some horse shit.
Anyway, this interview...
jordan holmes
It's some horse shit.
dan friesen
This interview goes on, and this is the last clip from this interview, because I think Alex interrupts him in an incredibly rude way.
jordan holmes
Oh no.
dan friesen
That I think is really funny.
jordan holmes
I wonder if it's...
Never mind.
We'll get to why I have an issue with him interrupting this specific...
Person.
dan friesen
But to be fair, in this whole time, he hasn't really interrupted him.
unidentified
That's true.
dan friesen
And I think it's because...
jordan holmes
He's put a lot of restraint into that bottle of wild turkey there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
marshall mcgill
And I watched the rabbi speak.
I watched Colin White speak.
I watched...
But the power was Trump.
dan friesen
Did you catch that?
jordan holmes
But the power was strong?
dan friesen
The power was Trump.
jordan holmes
Oh!
dan friesen
That might even be sacrilegious.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
Well, he's already said that it doesn't matter about religion, we're all energy.
That's true.
dan friesen
So at this point, I want to take a little bit of a break from the literal chronology here and play a little clip of Alex being drunk, because we need a little fun right about now.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So here's drunk Alex screaming on the street after the deplorable.
unidentified
And I got a sitter!
philip thomas
I don't need a bow horse.
unidentified
I need a arrow.
The will of the Republic will dominate this thing.
jordan holmes
Nobody understood a goddamn word!
dan friesen
He said something about the Republic.
I'm a fucking lush.
A lot of the time, whenever I go for it, I don't think I've ever been, like, this level of drunk.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but you and I...
dan friesen
No, because it's booze mixed with super male vitality.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
That creates this weird...
I hate to call it a demon.
jordan holmes
Well, I think a big part of that super male vitality stuff is probably testosterone.
Oh, sure.
Or mimickers or something like that.
Yeah, if you don't have control over testosterone, that's what you fucking sound like all the time.
dan friesen
I'll never be more glad that I probably have low T than when I watch him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
dan friesen
I'm super passive by nature, but it's like, well, the reverse would be way worse.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, and that's why it always boggles my mind whenever that's never mentioned.
And, like, all of the things that we glorify high testosterone for, it's never come with, like, oh, and by the way, this is also the thing where it's like, you're super violent, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, I don't know, pick your sport.
dan friesen
Any of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, hockey.
Why is fighting still allowed in hockey?
Because we all have to get out some kind of sublimated testosterone bullshit.
dan friesen
Well, actually, Alex talked about this on a recent show.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course he did.
dan friesen
That sports in general are created by the powers that be in order to mimic warfare to take away our male energy.
jordan holmes
I mean...
If it weren't for the created by a nonsense thing, that's kind of what sports are for.
The reason that we don't have gladiators killing each other is because instead we have fucking football.
We watch people kill each other slowly.
dan friesen
He also said that Hitler was responsible for popularizing the Olympics.
Which I'm not sure if that's true.
jordan holmes
That is not strictly true, but the 1936 Olympics were the ones where the entire world...
Like, stood at attention for it.
dan friesen
Well, there's a big reason for that.
jordan holmes
I can't think of any big reasons.
Can't think of any big reasons at the time.
dan friesen
Anyway, take the mic away from your mouth, because he's not done yelling.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
alex jones
1776, baby!
1776 will commence again!
You like it?
This is just the info war!
Imagine you get in a physical fight with us!
It's over!
jordan holmes
No!
alex jones
You understand that?
I know you do now, don't you?
We haven't taken the gloves off, and if you want to keep pushing with your commie, Chinese, everybody else, we're going to blow your ass off the map.
All the secret weapons ain't in the control of you anymore, are they?
They're now in the hands of George Washington 2.0, so I know why you're shaking in fear.
dan friesen
That is a drunk man.
jordan holmes
That is a drunk man.
I know why you're shaking in fear!
dan friesen
He also, if you watch the video, he looks wasted.
Is he wearing a suit?
Yeah, but the tie is off.
His shirt is unbuttoned.
jordan holmes
He's the guy at the wedding who's waiting to fuck somebody and it's not happening.
dan friesen
Honestly, it looks like he's out on Bourbon Street, too.
That's really the vibe that the video has, and it's like maybe six people standing around him, and he's just yelling at...
jordan holmes
But with shittier music.
dan friesen
And he's just yelling at a camera.
Like, he's doing a wrestling promo.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he is.
That's exactly what that sounded like.
dan friesen
Hey, globalists.
You know, like, you don't have the secret weapons anymore.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what secret weapons is he talking about?
dan friesen
They're secret.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good point.
dan friesen
Yeah, we don't know about him.
jordan holmes
We can't tell them.
I mean, he knows about him.
dan friesen
Well, because some caller told him about him.
So this one is a nice...
This is in between his two interviews that he does on the street.
Again, this whole thing is supposed to be a breakdown of the speech, and it seems to just be turning into church.
jordan holmes
Or at least a long, rambling nonsense stream of consciousness.
dan friesen
Yeah, so here's a...
I don't really understand based on my labeling of clips.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's a lot like Virginia Woolf is what I'm trying to say.
dan friesen
This one is called Gotta Be Humble.
I'm not entirely sure.
jordan holmes
Gotta Be Humble.
dan friesen
I gotta label these better.
jordan holmes
That is his first track on his gospel album.
dan friesen
Yep.
alex jones
And ladies and gentlemen, we are back live.
David Knight and the rest of the great crew are there in studio.
I'm going to talk to a few more people out here on the street, and then I'm going to go get a little bite to eat, and then I'm going to be back on.
I really need to focus, write some notes, and just be very humble.
I know, because this is a very special time.
dan friesen
I have to go back just for a second.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because it's worth it.
alex jones
Very humble.
I know, because this is a very special time.
dan friesen
I missed it again.
jordan holmes
He said very humble, didn't he?
dan friesen
No, no, no.
You've got to see how he phrases it.
It's so funny.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Just be very humble.
This is a very special time.
jordan holmes
This is a professional outfit!
dan friesen
I missed it again.
What he says is I need to go grab a bite to eat, put on some clothes, and gotta take some notes, gotta be real humble.
It's like, what are you talking about?
jordan holmes
That's a great checklist.
Like, to-do list on his wall.
dan friesen
Well, it also shows a little bit of insight into his mind that, like, be humble is on his checklist.
It's like a thing he does as opposed to something that is internalized.
jordan holmes
It's interesting.
Which I don't necessarily find fault with that, because I don't think it is an internal thing to be humble.
Right?
dan friesen
I'm 50-50 on it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you think so?
I feel like a lot of the virtues aren't really inborn, is my thought.
dan friesen
I think there's work to be done, but if you generally do the work, it becomes second nature.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
So it means he's either...
So humility-deficient that he has to work on it real hard every day, or it's new.
It's a new practice for him.
jordan holmes
I would actually go with the former.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
He seems like the most humility-deficient person.
dan friesen
It's...
jordan holmes
Like, his entire radio show is self-aggrandizing how he gets everything 100% correct all the time.
Like, that whole, like...
How did you know you didn't talk to Trump?
Because we're on the same page!
Because I'm always correct.
dan friesen
It's pure Americana.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course somebody who's always correct is following my playbook, too.
Like, that's self-aggrandizement to a ridiculous extent.
dan friesen
Well, and what you just expressed is literally what he says about why he's right all the time.
It's like, no, I understand.
I have the globalist's playbook.
I'm not predicting things based on, like...
Just random predictions.
Yeah, definitely not.
jordan holmes
There's no way that the guy who predicted concentration camps would just be randomly predicting things.
That's the globalist playbook.
dan friesen
He's very humble, and this clip goes on for a little bit where he says some wacky Leanne wackadoo bullshit.
alex jones
The evil that was getting ready to unfold, he thought things were already evil.
They were about to launch the full evil.
Total takeover the media, arresting patriots.
Torturing us.
I mean, the whole nine yards.
Torturing us.
And it was so horrible that even the intelligence agencies just said, we can't do this.
This is crazy.
It's like a comic book of evil.
I mean, it's just so evil.
You see movies, you read history books, both fiction and non-fiction, you think things like this can't really happen until you see it happen.
And we saw a guy trying to get three llamas in this morning past Homeland Security.
And it's like, we had to take photos of it and no one would believe it.
I'm going to put those up later.
jordan holmes
Did he put those up?
alex jones
I mean, it's just so much...
My point is, crazy stuff's going on.
Roger Stone shows up in a huge top hat.
He's been poisoned by polonium.
We're living in crazy times.
dan friesen
So the end of that was insanity.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
People were sneaking llamas in.
jordan holmes
He said Obama's a llama, I think is what he said.
dan friesen
No, he said someone's going to put a bomb in a llama.
unidentified
Oh, God, a llama bomb would be the best day of my life.
dan friesen
Yeah, that would be insane.
jordan holmes
Just having somebody on the news say, and there was a...
dan friesen
There was a llama bomb?
jordan holmes
There was a bomb in a llama, or I can't say that without laughing.
A bomb in a llama.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's like, well, there's definitely better mechanisms to get a bomb somewhere.
unidentified
Yeah, but there aren't funnier mechanisms to get a bomb somewhere.
dan friesen
Now, I have to ask you this.
jordan holmes
Other than a traditional giant cartoon bomb where it's the big circle with the giant thing on a Rube Goldberg machine getting from the Middle East to the United States.
dan friesen
You just flip a checker over, a domino over.
So let me ask you this, Jordan.
If you were to put a bomb in a llama...
Would you surgically implant it, or would you make the llama eat the bomb?
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a good question.
I don't think you're going to get the llama to eat the bomb.
dan friesen
No, but it's a funny visual.
jordan holmes
I think there are too many potential complications with the surgery.
I'm going to go with the bomb suppository.
dan friesen
Okay, if you're going to make it eat it, you should go goat instead of llama, because those guys will eat anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but the way that they'll digest it is they're going to explode immediately.
dan friesen
Right.
Right.
jordan holmes
You gotta use a llama.
I think that's what we've established right here.
If you're gonna bomb something, you bomb a llama dig down.
dan friesen
So you cut open the belly of the llama, you put the bomb in, sew it up hastily.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Because you can't have a bomb just sitting inside this llama for a long time.
jordan holmes
And who do we know with proper veterinary experience to successfully llama bomb someone?
dan friesen
This is the best conspiracy ever?
jordan holmes
This is the best conspiracy theory.
dan friesen
It was Dr. Wallach.
jordan holmes
Dr. Wallach.
False flag Infowars the whole time.
dan friesen
So I don't...
I should be clear.
I think Alex was saying that as a joke.
I don't think he actually was saying there was a bomb and a llama.
jordan holmes
I don't think that part.
He did say he was going to put up pictures of the llamas later.
dan friesen
And he might have.
I haven't scoured his sight.
I don't know.
But also, Roger Stone shows up in a top hat.
He's been poisoned with polonium.
It's like, fuck off.
jordan holmes
Is the top hat like the Mad Hatter situation?
dan friesen
Well, Roger Stone is a notorious fancy dresser.
I don't know if you know that about him.
jordan holmes
I did not know that about Roger Stone.
dan friesen
He's a little bit of a...
jordan holmes
Is it a fancy man?
dan friesen
I would say he's a glamour puss.
It's possible to say.
He's notorious for that, and he does wear silly hats a lot.
But also, I wanted to try and figure out what the fuck was going on with Apollonium and see if there were any mainstream...
jordan holmes
Any possible...
dan friesen
Any sources that were reputable at all.
There aren't.
There's just a bunch of blogs.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
But accidentally, in my research, I learned that Roger Stone has been banned from CNN and NBC.
Is kind of fun.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He says it's because he supports Trump and because, you know, he's too conservative and he knows the truth.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The reality is that over a period of time, he was caught calling various media personalities who worked for CNN and MSNBC, quote, A stupid negro.
jordan holmes
Nope, not bad.
dan friesen
A fad negro.
jordan holmes
Bad.
dan friesen
A professional negro.
jordan holmes
Stop it.
dan friesen
A mandingo.
jordan holmes
No, no!
That one's real bad.
dan friesen
He referred to some as quota hires.
jordan holmes
Does he know what a mandingo is?
dan friesen
That's a big-dicked guy, right?
That's specifically one big-dicked guy in porno.
jordan holmes
No, I mean historically.
dan friesen
But I think he does, and that's why he's using the term.
jordan holmes
That's very not good.
dan friesen
Also, he referred to, I would assume it was Rachel Maddow, but I don't know, it doesn't specifically say who he was talking about, but he's called someone the Muff Diver.
jordan holmes
That's pretty good.
I'm way happier with Muff Diver than I am with Mandingo.
dan friesen
Or Fat Negro.
So yeah, he called people who worked for those stations, yeah.
There's a good chance he is a homosexual.
jordan holmes
I just showed Friesen some pictures of Roger Stone shirtless looking like he's at Mardi Gras in Brazil.
dan friesen
To be fair, it was a woman licking him.
jordan holmes
It was a woman licking him.
But otherwise, he is a snappy dresser.
I confirmed that through various sources.
Some...
Perhaps at NBC.
dan friesen
You consulted a professional negro.
unidentified
I did.
jordan holmes
I did.
Oh, God.
Don't say that.
dan friesen
I know.
It's so awful.
jordan holmes
That's the worst.
dan friesen
And it's like, hey, why do you got to censor conservatives?
Why do you got to kick us off the air?
It's like, it's not that you're conservative.
It's that you say shit like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You will not be welcome on our show if you talk like that.
jordan holmes
Look, hey, do you want to cut the budget and maybe balance it?
That's okay.
Do not go racist.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But also, here's the other thing about that, though, is if you do say it's because you're a conservative, then you are conflating that racism with conservative thought.
dan friesen
Ooh, that's interesting.
jordan holmes
So if you're going to...
dan friesen
I don't think he would even catch that.
jordan holmes
No, he would have no idea that that's what's going on there.
But if you're going to get kicked off for saying racist shit and then say it's because you're a conservative...
dan friesen
We're back to logic here.
jordan holmes
That means that we're in...
Those are...
You know, the same thing.
dan friesen
You know what that's called, my friend?
jordan holmes
Or one is part of the other.
dan friesen
That's called the classical syllogism.
jordan holmes
That is.
dan friesen
That is dead to rights.
Conservatism is racist.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah.
dan friesen
According to Roger Stone.
According to Roger Stone.
But yeah, he's a glamour puss.
Looks great.
Wears top hats around.
jordan holmes
Looks great.
He even looks good without a shirt.
He's an older man.
He does look good without a shirt.
dan friesen
100% wasn't poisoned with polonium.
jordan holmes
No, there's no possible way.
dan friesen
No.
Fucking possible way.
The only images that he's released that prove it, it just looks like he has zits.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it looks like he has a little bit of a pocked mark face.
jordan holmes
Well, I looked up a media-ite claim about that, where they were like, Roger Stone claimed that he was poisoned by Polonia, which was the famously used to poison the KGB agent that Putin talked about.
And they very, like, even more damning for them.
Is not going on a polemic, but just then going immediately to, and Roger Stone claims that he's debunking things in his new book.
Right.
And you're like, that is the sweetest little fuck you there.
dan friesen
It's all selling the book.
jordan holmes
Where that little twist of like, he's claiming something that's so easily debunkable.
And also, he's plugging his We're Gonna Debunk Shit book.
dan friesen
Well, and also, it came out the other day that he's under federal investigation.
jordan holmes
Oh, really?
I wonder what for.
dan friesen
Being in touch with WikiLeaks and the Russians during the campaign.
jordan holmes
Odd how that happened.
dan friesen
But because he wasn't, like, an official Trump campaign person, it might be okay for him.
jordan holmes
Now, if you are President Trump with the capability to stop that investigation...
dan friesen
What do you think is going to happen?
The amount of political capital that would cost would be so tough.
jordan holmes
We're past political capital.
There is no more political capital, period.
They control the entire government, and Trump is a fucking lunatic.
dan friesen
Even a minority in Congress, if pushed too far and with millions of people on the street, could shut down the government a la Ted Cruz.
jordan holmes
That's a good question.
dan friesen
It could be done, but it would be extreme.
I think if he squashed these investigations into his friends, I think that it might be a tipping point.
jordan holmes
That would be an impeachable...
That would be the most impeachable...
dan friesen
It would be cut and dry.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You would have to.
And if you didn't, then why are we having America anymore?
dan friesen
Yeah, if you're going to squash investigations that are concurrent and running and have been...
About Manafort, about Roger Stone, about Carter Page, then you are essentially admitting that whatever they're investigating is true.
jordan holmes
Is guilty, yeah.
Right?
That is America today.
Yesterday, with the Women's March, I've genuinely not felt hope like that in such a long time.
And today, it's still back to...
dan friesen
But I encourage you to look up a picture of Roger Stone in a silly top hat, because it's kind of fun.
jordan holmes
I encourage you to look up a picture of Roger Stone shirtless.
That is also fun.
He has a very Putinian chest.
dan friesen
I think Alex does too now.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah, he did a supplement test on himself over the last month.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Over the month of December and into January.
He's like...
I'm not going to play any of this, but he's like, hey, so I used to be really in shape, and then I started doing all this.
I didn't work too much at the radio.
I put on 100 pounds, and then I started taking the supplements, and I just lost so much weight.
And then, you know, the election got going, and...
You know, I keep my supplements on a lazy Susan on the table.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
Someone took away the lazy Susan.
jordan holmes
I keep my Molly on a lazy Susan on the table.
dan friesen
Basically, he blames someone moving his lazy Susan with him stopping taking supplements.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
He's like, I gained a bunch of weight, so I'm going to do this test on myself.
Over the next month, I'm going to take him like crazy.
And he does, and he loses like nine pounds or something like that.
Who cares?
But he shows so many pictures of himself.
Shirtless.
In these ads.
jordan holmes
What is it with those dudes and shirtlessness?
dan friesen
It's crazy.
It looks gross.
So, he's out on the streets.
jordan holmes
Now, that's a low blow from us.
Physical appearance is not what we're here about.
dan friesen
Oh, I mean, barrel chest isn't a negative thing.
jordan holmes
That's true.
You did say he looks gross, though.
dan friesen
That's a personal opinion.
Listen.
jordan holmes
That's one of our Leanne McAdones in this podcast of ours.
dan friesen
I agree with you.
I don't want to body shame him, but I will say this.
He couldn't hit.
Alex Jones could not get it.
So he's back out on the streets here.
It's the same clip just a little bit later after yelling about how you gotta be humble and Roger Stone has been poisoned with polonium.
He finds an Indian gentleman with a MAGA hat on.
A Make America Great hat.
And this guy is fucking angry.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
philip thomas
Nice to be here and nice to see you.
My name is Philip Thomas.
I'm a naturalized American citizen.
I lived in many parts of the world.
I lived in Muslim countries.
And I know how human rights are being violated.
And people of other religions are treated like dirt.
And this country is a great country.
For the past eight years we had a nightmare with Obama.
And that nightmare is over today.
As the other brother, the African-American brother said, a lot of quotation he gave from the Bible.
You read Daniel chapter 2, you'll find God is the installer and God is the remover of kings.
Today, God had installed Mr. Trump as the president of this country.
alex jones
That's right.
We voted, but nothing the enemy could do worked.
It all turned against him.
It was providence.
I can't tell the providence I've experienced.
dan friesen
What was that?
jordan holmes
You really responded to something.
Kings!
That's kings!
dan friesen
That's bad optics.
jordan holmes
Probably don't want to use kings in this situation.
dan friesen
And say that they're there because of God's will.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's also a really scary kind of...
jordan holmes
Oh, do you mean that whole, like, let's make no laws regarding the practice of religion?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, no one's saying that anyone can or can't practice whatever religion they want, but this is a Christian country and God put King Trump in.
unidentified
Kings!
jordan holmes
Kings!
dan friesen
What else you got?
jordan holmes
I do like how he...
Not...
Okay.
dan friesen
I like you choosing your words carefully.
jordan holmes
I'm trying here because he was very, very clear about his name being Philip Thomas.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Now, that was a chosen name.
dan friesen
And he's a naturalized citizen, so he's born somewhere else.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
He has chosen that name.
Which is cool.
Yeah, that I respect completely.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And there is a certain amount of nobody is more fervent about the American dream than immigrants.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Because that's the whole reason you came here, you know?
Because that's the ideal there.
dan friesen
Also, if I was going to change my name, if I was a naturalized citizen?
jordan holmes
What would you change it to?
dan friesen
Dutch.
jordan holmes
Dutch Friesen?
dan friesen
Maybe.
I haven't figured out the last name yet, but Dutch would be my first name.
jordan holmes
If you changed it to Dutch Patel, this dude would hate you.
dan friesen
I'm sorry, I interrupted you.
jordan holmes
So, yeah.
We've got the Kings there.
I agree with him on the human rights violations.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I absolutely do.
I would like him to follow up with more why he's unhappy with the past eight years of Obama.
dan friesen
Why it was a nightmare.
jordan holmes
Why?
Yeah.
dan friesen
It was a human rights nightmare.
jordan holmes
Like, that's...
That's a really interesting thing that I would want to have a full conversation with.
dan friesen
Well, because he doesn't explain, we're left to grapple with it.
And if his argument is that it's a human rights nightmare because of the drone killings...
jordan holmes
There's definitely a conversation to have on that.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
But I don't think that's what he's talking about.
I think that would be giving a lot of credit.
I think it's more brainwashing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm very much going to go with that's not what he was talking about.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Now, here's the thing that gets to me about that narrative or that brainwashing.
Can you point to any specific thing that's not made up where Obama has infringed upon any kind of rights?
dan friesen
Yes.
In their mentality, yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Are we talking about purely gay equality?
dan friesen
Basically.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's really what they're going with, right?
dan friesen
It's the idea that people would have to recognize these gay marriages when it's against their religion to believe in gay marriage.
Or that would be probably the way they would present it.
jordan holmes
Now, is that...
unidentified
Why does this cake shop have to make a gay cake?
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean...
dan friesen
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, who gives a fuck?
dan friesen
Sorry, make a cake.
jordan holmes
Or don't.
dan friesen
Or don't, yeah.
jordan holmes
They'll go somewhere else.
dan friesen
Yeah, don't, but also know that a lot of people aren't going to like that.
So enjoy the blowback.
That's fine.
jordan holmes
That's putting up a sign saying, you know, no gays allowed.
Yeah.
But again, who gives a fuck?
dan friesen
But that's the argument that comes down to, like, what the free market literally is.
If you want to do that, you know, the...
The people who are super libertarian on the free market side will make the argument that, yeah, if someone puts up a No Black sign at their restaurant, then they're going to go out of business because everyone hates it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that sounds good in theory, but if you look at what happened with Chick-fil-A, it doesn't work that way.
jordan holmes
Didn't fucking bother them at all.
dan friesen
In fact...
The Republicans rallied around it.
The Christian conservatives were like, we're going to go to Chick-fil-A and make a big deal out of how we're going to it to support them for hating gay people.
So it's like, no, there aren't enough bigots in the world that will celebrate that decision that it kind of will keep them in business.
jordan holmes
But even then, it's not as though he forced anyone to do anything other than the same thing that the government is there for, which is...
In the eyes of our law, that is the case.
If you don't want to acknowledge that, the government cannot arrest you for it unless you are working for the government there.
Like a judge or the clerk.
The clerk that famously...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For her to deny those licenses is illegal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because that's a purely law issue.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But if you work at a fucking cake shop...
You don't have to acknowledge that they're getting married.
You're just making a fucking cake!
dan friesen
Sure, sure, sure.
jordan holmes
Like, nobody put those people in jail for it.
dan friesen
And I don't think...
jordan holmes
Because that's illegal.
dan friesen
With any understanding of God, too.
Like, and I don't want to get off on a, like, God-as-I-see-him kind of rant.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But, like, any...
jordan holmes
Do you mean non-existent?
Ah, all right.
dan friesen
Any version of God that is conceivable, I can't imagine him being like, or her being like...
Hey, you lived a good life.
I appreciate what you did.
You had a great family, but you made those queers a cake.
And that's a big deal for me.
I can't imagine that.
jordan holmes
That's a hilarious God.
If that was really God, that's a pretty funny fucking bit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this guy goes on a little bit more about hating Democrats.
philip thomas
You know, my heart bleeds when I see the young people supporting Democratic Party, which is directionless.
And now, you know what's happening with the Democratic Party?
They're trying to take Keith Ellison as the chief, and he is an Islamist.
He wants to destroy the United States.
jordan holmes
Disagree with that.
philip thomas
An American should wake up!
If you don't wake up, you will be in your slumber, and your slumber will lead to death.
jordan holmes
Agree with that.
dan friesen
For different reasons.
jordan holmes
So we're two for three on dumb shit he said.
dan friesen
But the other two, you disagree with what he's actually saying.
You just agree with the literal words.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Yeah.
There's no evidence.
I can find that Keith Ellison is a radical Islamist.
jordan holmes
He's a Muslim.
I can't find any there either.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
With my zero research.
That's how much research I need to do.
dan friesen
I've done a little, and I've also done some research on this next clip, which is another wild accusation.
alex jones
Could you believe, though, that in Europe and here they actually sold out and Brennan, as the head of the CIA, is a hardcore Wahhabist?
philip thomas
Yes.
alex jones
And that this has been put up with?
philip thomas
And so we have to be careful, and Alex Jones is doing a great job.
I've been watching his videos.
jordan holmes
He's a hardcore what?
dan friesen
Wahhabist?
jordan holmes
What's a Wahhabist?
dan friesen
It's one of the branches of radical Islam.
It's one of the groups that's mostly responsible for the terrorism that we see.
jordan holmes
Oh, I didn't know that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And the idea that John Brennan, the former head of the CIA, was a Wahhabist sleeper cell kind of thing is wacky!
jordan holmes
There's a lot of sleeper cells in, like...
And I think we talked about this before, which is that because a lot of people are so reasonable, if you want to go and paint them as evil, you have to make shit up.
You can't engage with them on reality.
dan friesen
No.
One of the big reasons that they have this narrative, I looked into it because I wanted to get to the bottom of why they think that Brennan is a hobbyist sleeper cell.
And most of it dates back to him refusing to call the terrorists radical Islamic terrorists.
He wanted to call them extremist terrorists.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And not taking away the fact that they were of the Islamic faith, but just prioritizing that they are extremist terrorists.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is really the more important point, probably.
jordan holmes
Well, what do you call the IRA?
dan friesen
You'd call them extremists.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Or would you call them radical...
dan friesen
Irish?
Catholics?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Radical Catholics.
Now, if you do call them that, though...
Yeah, exactly.
But even then, if you do call them that, what are you doing?
Like, what is the goal there other than to demonize them for their religion?
dan friesen
It's to tar other Catholics who aren't involved in their behaviors.
jordan holmes
So if you're going to go with any kind of radical religion there, then all you're really doing is saying, these are the people who actually believe what they're saying, and other people who maybe don't practice it.
also believe that this should be happening.
dan friesen
Well, there's another dangerous piece of it, too, in that it's sort of like they're doing it, we should too mentality.
Oh, of course.
These are the radical Islamists.
jordan holmes
The only way to fight them is radically.
dan friesen
With radical Christianity, we have to have another crusade kind of thing.
And it's not our fault.
We had to do this to respond to that.
jordan holmes
And that's his whole, whatever it is they say we're doing is what they're doing.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
So we have to do it.
dan friesen
This clip isn't done.
He's going to talk a little bit about Alex Jones' international audience.
unidentified
Ooh!
philip thomas
So we have to be careful, and Alex Jones is doing a great job.
I've been watching his videos on YouTube, and my son, who lives in India, always calls and tells me, don't forget, don't neglect Alex Jones' views.
It's very important, and it will save America.
And I'm so glad...
alex jones
I've also learned there's huge listeners in India.
philip thomas
Yeah, of course you have.
And the day after tomorrow I'm flying to India.
And I'm going to be an ambassador for Mr. Trump.
unidentified
Buh.
India's fucked up enough as it is.
dan friesen
They got a lot of issues on their plate.
jordan holmes
They got a lot of issues.
Did you see that that dude just eliminated paper currency?
dan friesen
I didn't see that.
jordan holmes
Just overnight, he was like, all of your paper currency is now worthless.
dan friesen
Whoa.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Because that worked.
dan friesen
Who's this guy?
jordan holmes
The Prime Minister.
Not just this guy.
Did you see this guy right there who was talking to Alex Jones?
Yeah, Philip Thomas.
dan friesen
I do know that I've, in the past, talked about how India has monkey police.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And people think that I'm some sort of a xenophobic bigot because I, but then I bring up the stories and it's literal.
unidentified
They have, they have, they have monkeys that police other monkeys.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
It's crazy.
jordan holmes
It's such a huge place with so many different cultures and languages and everything.
dan friesen
The North and the South are like night and day from each other.
And we can't even really understand that.
We think of our rural America and the urban elites and stuff like that.
It's so much bigger than that.
jordan holmes
And then you get into Pakistan as well.
And this whole thing, it boggles my mind how...
It's all basically the UK.
Oh, it's their fault.
Whenever they just drew up random lines where it's like, okay, everybody who identifies as Pakistani now moves from wherever they were living, and they just drew up these random borders, and that could not have caused more insane conflicts.
dan friesen
It's like the remnants of colonialism being brought to full light, essentially.
So this guy has another thing he wants to say, and this is a direct shout-out to the Muslims.
Maybe another pro-wrestling promo type of thing?
jordan holmes
Shout-out to the Muslims.
philip thomas
So we have to be very careful about the Islamic agenda.
You know, they say Muslims are all good.
Oh, let them be good at home.
jordan holmes
Nobody says they're all good.
dan friesen
And also that wildly simplistic view of the world.
Muslims, stay home.
Alright, fine.
jordan holmes
It is tempting.
The simplistic view of the world is so tempting.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
The good versus evil is such a tempting concept to believe in because it makes everything easy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It makes everything so easy.
dan friesen
But what you miss in the nuance is kind of reality.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he has one more thing he wants to say, and this really scares me quite a bit.
This is our last clip from Alex's breakdown of Trump's speech on the street.
This is a bit scary.
alex jones
If they kill Trump, which I know they're seriously considering doing, I think it'll be an even bigger defeat for them.
philip thomas
No, no, I don't think that will happen because our police, our military, our secret service, they're all strong.
alex jones
No, no, I agree, but they're going to try is what I'm saying.
philip thomas
Oh, yeah, of course, yes.
Yes, of course, they'll try, but they'll be in vain.
But Trump will triumph.
jordan holmes
Jesus will protect them.
philip thomas
Jesus will protect.
Jesus will protect.
unidentified
Yes.
philip thomas
Because God is the installer.
And Yahweh has installed Mr. Trump to become the president of this greatest nation and the greatest superpower ever in the history of mankind.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Yuck.
jordan holmes
That is true.
We are the greatest superpower in the history of mankind, which is the scariest possible reality to have Trump as the fucking president.
dan friesen
But just that part where he's like, Trump will triumph, and screaming it, it's just like, that's so Hitlerian.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, that is the kind of...
Speech you'd hear from people who are super into...
And I'm not here to say that Trump is Hitler.
No, that's again the good and evil...
jordan holmes
Who was it?
dan friesen
That's the super simplistic worldview.
jordan holmes
Dan Harmon has a great little...
Not bit, but just like this concept where it's like, I would rather we call him Hitler...
Before he becomes Hitler.
Like, if Hitler was called out for being Hitler before he became that, it's like, no, that's a good thing.
That's a good thing that we're trying to stop this from happening.
dan friesen
Well, because we have the awareness of what has happened in the past, we should use that awareness.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
That's the only way for never again to actually work.
jordan holmes
Yep.
And instead, it is the same kind of nationalism that gave rise to all that bullshit.
dan friesen
And Hitler used religion, too.
I mean, you see these people on the street and they're wrapping up all of their religious beliefs into this nationalistic movement.
And whether or not Trump means that to happen, he's not strong enough to control these people.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, absolutely not.
dan friesen
Whatever his real agenda is, let's imagine a scenario where he actually does just want to lower taxes.
If that were all he really wanted to do, he still has these fringe weirdos who are emboldened by him, who are empowered by him, and they're putting whatever bullshit they have into his victory, and he can't control them.
No one can.
jordan holmes
No!
Which is the lesson that the GOP is currently learning, because they couldn't control Trump.
dan friesen
They should have learned that with the Tea Party.
jordan holmes
You sure would have thought that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But what they did was they piggybacked on it, and they assumed that they could minimize it while still using it.
And, I mean, you just look at how Fox News, instead of being the propaganda arm for the GOP, became the GOP.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, they started to dictate to the GOP what was going to happen instead of the GOP, you know, telling them to make other points.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, if you just go by, like, the stated objectives of the GOP 40 years ago, it's insane to think that all of a sudden now it is, you know, not just, you know, lip service to balancing the budget or anything like that.
But they're using these cultural, like, hey, no gays, no gays, as a way to get tax cuts for the rich.
dan friesen
That's the culture war.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And it's the same, like, if you get people to fight over dumb shit, you can trick them into voting against their own interests.
dan friesen
Yep.
And we can see that Alex Jones' analysis largely has to do with the dumb shit.
jordan holmes
Are we giving him the props of analysis?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, he would call it that, so I just want to give him...
jordan holmes
All right, you want to speak in his own language?
dan friesen
Sure.
Speaking of his own language, I want to end this episode with a couple of clips that are fucking awesome.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Now, please, I don't want to limit your...
jordan holmes
Microphone down!
dan friesen
I don't want to limit your freedom.
jordan holmes
Microphone down!
dan friesen
But it's important to hear what's being said.
jordan holmes
What about my religious freedom?
dan friesen
I'll limit that.
So this...
This is an interaction that Alex had with a protester on the street who had a sign that had to do with free speech and the First Amendment being taken away and the press and what have you.
This woman, I don't know who she is, but she is my new hero.
alex jones
I mean, really?
Well, I'd love to hear about freedom of the press with them legalizing domestic propaganda under Obama.
You actually have liquor on your breath.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Are you a Puritan?
unidentified
No, I'm just amazed that you're doing your job with liquor on your breath.
Doesn't that give you the guts to yell at women?
alex jones
I need the guts.
I got too many guts, baby.
unidentified
I think you do.
alex jones
Truth is, I drink alcohol, so I don't got too many guts.
Are you drunk while you're recording?
No, it's actually made up.
I had a coffee earlier.
dan friesen
Fake news.
jordan holmes
Fake news!
I had a coffee earlier.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's why I smell like boobies.
jordan holmes
You can't smell liquor on his breath.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's...
jordan holmes
I had a coffee earlier.
alex jones
God.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
That is the most...
That's what you say to a cop!
dan friesen
What, you have liquor on your breath?
jordan holmes
No!
No, it's fine.
I had a coffee earlier.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Sir, could you get out of the car, please?
No, I'm not drunk.
I had a coffee.
dan friesen
I'm gonna yell fake news at cops from now on.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
So are you drunk?
Fake news!
jordan holmes
Fake news!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, do you work for Media Matters, police officer?
dan friesen
George Soros paying three million people to protest.
So that lady is...
Fucking awesome.
jordan holmes
Yeah, she did not give a fuck.
dan friesen
No, so you saw exactly what he did immediately when she started to throw that reality at him.
It's like, you smell like booze.
And he's like, oh yeah, I need guts not to yell at someone like you.
He tries to spin it.
Now you're going to have to put the mic down again because they have another interaction that's a little bit later.
And, man, this is great.
I just love this.
This shows the thin-skinned cowardice of Alex Jones.
unidentified
Oh, yeah!
alex jones
It doesn't matter!
They're listening, sweetheart!
They're listening!
unidentified
It's all over!
Yeah!
alex jones
Hey, if I was losing an argument, sweetcake, I'd be like MSCM and I wouldn't...
Sweetcake!
unidentified
Cupcake!
alex jones
Cupcake!
Excuse me!
Excuse me!
I wouldn't bring you over here if I was losing the argument.
unidentified
Do you call your mother that?
alex jones
Yeah, I'll call her Cupcake.
jordan holmes
Really?
alex jones
My mother calls me Cupcake.
unidentified
How would you like it if some stranger called her that in public on TV?
alex jones
I'd love it.
unidentified
Would you appreciate it?
alex jones
I'd love it.
Well, you're lying.
Cupcake, Cupcake.
unidentified
Look, now he's getting in my face.
alex jones
I'm in her face.
She came over here, Cupcake.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
What a dick.
What a total fucking dick.
And now I want to say this.
Let's be totally fair.
jordan holmes
That is the most pathetic...
alex jones
Oh, God.
dan friesen
If someone who agreed with us acted like that, we would have the same response.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, fuck you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That's insanely shitty behavior.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's first of all misogynistic.
jordan holmes
That's a childish bully.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is a 13-year-old on the playground.
Who just can't engage with anybody on ideas.
unidentified
Who maybe stole some of his mom's vermouth.
jordan holmes
Cupcake!
dan friesen
Fuck you!
jordan holmes
That's full-on drunk fucking...
dan friesen
And I think that's why they kept him off the air for most of the time.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Because he's saying shit like that.
That's just...
jordan holmes
I can't co-opt the offense for it.
You know, like, it is not something that I'm offended by because I understand any kind of plight that I've never had to experience.
dan friesen
And to her credit, that lady handled that with aplomb and decency and decorum.
jordan holmes
Which is...
Why he got even angrier at her.
Like, if she had started shouting back, he would have pulled back and been like, I'm taking the high road now.
dan friesen
Look at this dumb feminist.
jordan holmes
Exactly, exactly.
The fact that she just fucking...
Accepted what he was doing, recognized it, and then immediately minimized him.
dan friesen
And narrated sort of the absurdity of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's a child.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's a small child.
dan friesen
It's like what would happen to us if we ran into him.
The laughing would make him...
jordan holmes
Oh, it would make him so angry.
dan friesen
Whereas the yelling at him...
jordan holmes
He would call me Cupcake so many times.
Or, no, he would call me Cupcake.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Ah, there we go.
dan friesen
You're like, look at you, you smiley fuck.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
You think it's funny.
You think it's so funny to laugh at me.
You're a cuck.
You're a cuck.
Yeah.
No.
That is fucking bullshit.
dan friesen
I was hanging out with our friend Marty DeRosa the other night, and he had a nice reminder.
He gave me a nice reminder of...
We watched Alex's coverage of Julian Assange's big announcement during the campaign.
Assange was like, at three in the morning, I'm going to make a big announcement, and...
So Alex and his whole crew stayed up to watch that and broadcast it live, broadcast their coverage of it, because they thought it was going to be all about the nail in the coffin for Hillary.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And all it was was that it was WikiLeaks' 10th anniversary.
And so at that point, they started screaming, You cuck!
You dumb cuck!
They called him Hillary's butt plug and all this.
And look how much that's shifted within only a couple months.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Only a couple months.
Now they're like, WikiLeaks is the only source of true information.
It's insanity to me.
It's such a wild hypocrite.
Fuck.
jordan holmes
But here's the thing.
And this is the thing that you see on Twitter all the time.
Or even on the Daily Show, right?
Remember whenever John used to have those clips of...
Mitch McConnell saying some bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then four years later, Mitch McConnell.
Yeah, I like that.
I was thinking Mitch McConaughey.
dan friesen
All right, all right.
jordan holmes
All right, all right, all right.
No, saying the exact opposite bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And the thing about a team sport is no one cares.
dan friesen
Well, you forget.
jordan holmes
No one cares about hypocrisy because your team is winning.
dan friesen
You forget that three years ago you only won the championship because a guy who beats his wife was on your team.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you turned a blind eye to that, so now you can still cheer for the team next year.
jordan holmes
Ray Rice ran the ball real hard.
I know he punched his wife and dragged her out of an elevator, but man, he ran the ball real well.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, we see this over and over again.
jordan holmes
No, and that's the problem I always have with, even with people who are Obama supporters, who just accept everything, and it's like, no.
He was hypocritical in a lot of different ways.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And there's a bunch of ways to justify it, and I know he's making decisions that are so much harder than I can even possibly imagine.
That does not mean he has not still been a hypocrite so many times.
dan friesen
I reject the argument that it's wrong to critique the team you're playing for.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you should absolutely do it.
Like, the Democrats right now are...
They should be replaced by...
The fucking Women's March.
dan friesen
Well, it's like...
jordan holmes
Like, we don't need the Democrats.
dan friesen
It's like what Philip Thomas said.
The Democrats are directionless.
jordan holmes
Philip Thomas Anderson, the great director?
dan friesen
P.T. Anderson, yeah.
jordan holmes
P.T. Anderson?
dan friesen
He, I mean, that is a point that he makes that is very fine.
It's valid.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, so anyway, the inauguration happened.
Alex was clearly drunk for a good part of it.
jordan holmes
The inauguration happened, which means...
It's time to pray.
dan friesen
It is time to pray, and it's time for things to change.
For good or ill.
This episode is a little bit weird because Alex was out on the street, and there was a very limited amount of coverage that he did.
But in our next episodes, he'll be back in studio.
I think we'll be able to bring things back towards the center.
Back towards normal Alex screaming a whole bunch.
jordan holmes
Good deal.
dan friesen
But, for now, you can follow us on Twitter at Knowledge underscore Fight.
jordan holmes
We are on iTunes, Knowledge Fight.
dan friesen
Please subscribe.
Give us a review, unless you're a cuck.
Also, you can email us at...
jordan holmes
No, no!
Especially if you're a cuck.
dan friesen
Yeah, please.
jordan holmes
Because you're one of us.
dan friesen
Yeah, we're dumb libtard, progtard cucks.
jordan holmes
We're dumb progtard cucks.
dan friesen
If you want to send us an email, knowledgefight at gmail dot com.
It's been fun.
Jordan, I hope you have a great time in the UK.
jordan holmes
I will be out of the country.
dan friesen
I look forward to hearing all about it when you get back.
Tell me if you find any of these Muslim no-go areas.
jordan holmes
I'm going to guess that people are going to ask me about what it feels like to be an American in the age of Trump.
dan friesen
I remember when I was abroad.
jordan holmes
I remember when I was abroad.
dan friesen
You're passing.
I remember when I was abroad when Bush was president.
jordan holmes
You got a lot of shit?
dan friesen
Well, there was a lot of like, ooh, kind of feelings.
I can't imagine that it's any better now.
jordan holmes
I think if I do a set anywhere, the first words I have to say are, I'm an American.
I'm sorry.
And then I can continue talking.
dan friesen
I'd like to start this set, but it's time to pray.
We'll be back shortly.
jordan holmes
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Good luck.
jordan holmes
And good night.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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