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April 25, 2026 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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SPLC in the Dock

Jared Taylor and Paul Kersey disagree on the charges against the beleaguered "watch dog." They also discuss Virginia redistricting, Mamdani, and Atlanta, and Taylor tries rapping. Thumbnail credit: © Scott Coleman/ZUMA Press Wire

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Welcome Back to Radio Renaissance 00:04:35
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Radio Renaissance.
I'm your host, Jared Taylor, back after two, maybe was it three weeks, absent without leave.
So you're stuck with me again.
But I understand that Mr. Kersey has been doing wonderful work in my absence.
And I hope listeners out there are not too disappointed to have me back.
Mr. Kersey, how have you been?
Well, we were joined by someone who's become a very good friend, Tom Hennessy, who he tried to stand in for your incredibly difficult shoes to fill.
And I think we're excited to have you back because there's so much, sir, to talk about.
I've been well, but I know you've been in Europe, and I think it would be implied of us not to ask about your trip.
Well, let's start as we always do with comments, and then maybe I can talk a little bit about Europe.
One listener writes in to say on an earlier podcast, you mentioned Stephen Miller's legal group, but you got the name wrong.
It is America First Legal.
I'm a regular donor because they are always suing some miscreant and winning.
Well, Mr. Kersey, I don't know what we call the group, but I guess we got it wrong.
America First Legal.
That should be easy enough to remember.
Well, thank you, listener.
We always like to have our errors corrected.
Now, here's an amusing comment it points out that Kanye West, or Ye, or Ye, which is it, I guess it's Ye, not Ye, was supposed to perform at the wireless festival in Britain, but was banned, with the explanation that his presence, quote, would not be conducive to the public good.
Well, that's the British reason for keeping me out.
My presence wouldn't be conducive to the public good.
As a result, the entire Wireless Festival was canceled.
Ticket holders were refunded.
And apparently, it's quite a big deal festival in Britain.
Well, the commenter says Since you are now in the same boat as a black rapper, I took the liberty of generating a rap you might consider performing.
Well, Mr. Kersey, here it goes.
Do I need to drop a beat?
Ah, nope, not necessary.
I'll keep it in my head.
Yo, it's Jared Taylor, race realist supreme, spitting truth bombs while the normies scream.
They call it hate, I call it pattern recognition.
Genes don't lie, it's Darwinian precision.
Race is real, IQ don't bend.
White folks built the world, now they pretend.
Civilization's engine, European spark, from Athens to the moon, we lit the dark.
They scream diversity while the West declines, importing the hordes, wasting our dimes.
The gloom, shared the light, abolished slavery, taught the world what's right.
Beethoven, Shakespeare, Newton's Hand, Rembrandt, Mozart, Culture So Grand, Space Race, Apollo, White Man's Leap, while others still throwing spears in the heat.
And it goes on and on from there.
Now, should I be an aspiring rapper?
I think at that rate, I'd probably very soon be an expiring rapper because people with any taste at all would try to unload their Glock on me.
What do you think?
Well, I thought the Glock switch was banned.
No, I think there were some.
Very elaborate rhymes there.
I liked throwing spears in the heat.
That was pretty.
Yeah, well, there were a couple other lines there.
Out of pity for the listeners, I redacted several verses.
But thank you very much, listener.
I guess if I fail as a wicked podcaster, I can always pick up a mic, try to start another career.
Here's another comment.
I wanted to ask Mr. Taylor's.
Ask whether Mr. Taylor's strong speaking abilities developed naturally over time or if they weren't something you intentionally worked to improve.
If the latter, I'd appreciate any insight how you approach to building those skills.
Well, I don't think I'm all that great.
There are people who are much, much better speakers than I are.
But if I were to mention two things that I've thought about, one is if you're giving a speech, never just put your head down and read a piece of paper.
That's the worst way to give a speech.
Ideally, you can memorize the whole thing.
And just look at your audience the whole time.
If you can't do that, write out an outline and just look down from time to time to see the various points you're making.
But always look at the audience as much as possible.
If you really do have to write the whole thing out, read it over enough time so that you've almost memorized it and you look down only when you need to.
Speaking Conversationally with the Audience 00:03:21
The more eye contact you have with the people you're talking to, the better.
Also, you should try to speak conversationally.
If you're going to write out a speech, write it as if you were speaking it, not as if you were writing it.
Speech is much more engaging than the written word if you're actually talking to people.
And the other thing is, if you're being interviewed on video, try to keep your hands from waving around.
This is something I have still not mastered, Mr. Kersey.
I look like a windmill when I start talking to people.
I look like an Italian, for heaven's sake.
Keep those hands under control.
You look much more professional if you can keep your hands down by your sides or on a desk or just hold them together.
Don't wave them around like a lunatic.
That is advice that I give myself, and I almost never, never act on it.
Mr. Taylor, I have to say, casting aspersions at our Italian listeners with that.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I've got nothing against Italians.
But anyway, let's see another comment.
A couple of podcasts back, both you two good gentlemen confessed to an ignorance of the novelist Lionel Shriver.
In relation to her, yes, Lionel is a she, her latest novel, A Better Life.
Shriver shot to prominence in a Hollywood film in 2003, but her Epistolary novel, we need to talk about Kevin, about a fictional school massacre.
Not my literary cup of tea, so I passed on her whole career until I discovered that she was a regular columnist for the UK Spectator magazine.
It's right of center, but rather cut.
And she writes acerbic broadsides against various woke lunacies, including immigration.
A Better Life, that's another novel of hers, is apparently about illegal immigrants in New York during the Biden immigration disaster, in which a white pro immigrant lovey, I'm not quite sure what a lovey is, maybe that's British for something.
A pro immigrant lovey proposes to open her home to shelter one of the cultural enrichers, and she meets resistance from her Fox News consuming son, who believes the Great Replacement isn't a conspiracy theory.
It is, according to one reviewer, a gloriously funny satire on illegal immigration.
I didn't know you could write gloriously funny satire on illegal immigration, Mr. Kersey.
Seems awful to me.
But this critic says right wingers are shown as attractive and likable, and the liberals as odd and foolish.
I may yet read A Better Life because the novel has triggered all the right, i.e., lefty people, judging by reviews.
The Atlantic said Shriver tackles immigration and goes off the rails.
That does sound promising.
The Spectator says Trumpians will love it, others will loathe it.
The New York Times calls it sour and hectoring.
The Kirkus Review says Shriver, who's flirted with hard right ideology, cozies up to the great replacement conspiracy theory.
This rehash of The Camp of the Saints is just hackneyed, paranoid, xenophobia, her worst book by a wide margin.
Amazon reviewers, on the other hand, awarding it four and five star reviews.
It may be worth borrowing a copy from the library on this basis alone.
Reviews of A Better Life Novel 00:04:22
If it's any good, I'll let you know.
Well, that sounds really rather promising to me.
I may have to get somebody to review it for Amran.com.
Did you realize that it was about immigration and how goofy the people who welcome it are?
I sure didn't.
No, again, I don't read much contemporary fiction, but this did seem.
I read this letter from our listener, and it did seem interesting, and I did read some reviews of it, but there's just so much time in the day to invest in reading this type of stuff.
I almost never read fiction unless the author has been safely dead for at least 50 years.
That's pretty much my standard.
If it's still being read, then it's probably worth reading.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, we love to hear from listeners, especially if we make mistakes, which we sometimes do despite every effort not to.
Also, we like to hear about stories that you think are interesting, any comments you have, any questions you may have.
And there are two ways to reach us.
You can get your comment or question straight to me at amren.com, A M R E N.com.
Hit the contact us tab and you can write a message that will come to me.
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Shoot me an email, ladies and gentlemen, because we live here at protonmail.com.
Once again, that email address is because we live here at protonmail.com.
And yes, I guess I should explain to our loyal listeners why I was not behind the microphone for two weeks.
I was in Europe.
I started off in Rome.
And I think I may make a video about this.
Rome is just an absolutely fantastic, wonderful place.
And as you tromp around looking at the Roman antiquities and the Extraordinarily beautiful, magnificent achievements of the Italian Renaissance.
You've got to admit that the Romans were top of the heap.
I'm sorry, the Italians, so to speak, were top of the heap during the Roman era and also during the Renaissance, really.
Now, you wonder, well, what have they done for us lately?
But you could ask that question about practically any white country.
You go to Britain, all of these great memorials to the past.
You go to Spain, same thing.
Greece, the only people who go there is because of things they achieved in the past.
We really do have to.
Really, make a future that is as glorious as our past, white men.
And I think we can do it.
But I was in Rome for a while, and then I went to France, and I had a number of interviews and discussions with French comrades.
Some of them will be shown on video, but mostly they're in French.
So only our French speakers will have any interest in them.
And then I went to Finland, and I attended the Fifth Awakening Con.
Conference that was put on by a great and courageous Finnish comrade by the name of Tuka Kuru.
And I just did a write up of that, which you can find at amran.com.
And I really enjoyed walking around Helsinki.
This is the first time I had a chance to tramp around that wonderful, still overwhelmingly white and very handsome city.
It's got a lovely art museum, it's got very pleasant buildings, the streets are calm and clean.
It really looks like a place fit for white people.
So, I understand Tukakur plans to have annual awakening conferences.
And if you go to one, and I think you'll find it very interesting, you'll have a chance to visit Helsinki, which is really well worth a visit.
So, enough on my European adventures.
As I say, I think I will do a video about the Roman part of it.
But it was great to be back in the mother country and just absorbing the wonderful accomplishments of.
The Italian Renaissance.
It fills me with Western civilization enough to last at least till my next trip back to Rome.
It is really a wonderful city.
Mr. Kersey, have you ever been to Rome?
Only London and Paris, but we can't allow what exists currently in Rome to just be a mausoleum to our past.
We need to have that be an inspiration to our future.
Rome as Inspiration for Future 00:15:42
That's right.
A new tomorrow that starts today.
Oh, I like that.
I like that.
Well, apparently the fascists were on their way to building.
A new Rome.
And in Berlin, Albert Speer was going to build a brand new Nazi Berlin that was going to be the most magnificent capital on the continent.
All that stuff came to a sticky end.
But there are people who, at least at one time, were trying to do that.
But that spirit seems to have been squashed out of the white man at this point.
Well, contained, contained for the time being.
Contained, yes, or suppressed.
No, not squashed out permanently.
Yes.
Now, the interesting news, I think, of the last couple of days is the indictment against the Southern Poverty Law Center.
I am no friend of the Southern Poverty Law Center, and I suppose I take a detached sort of amusement in its current struggles, but let me read a few lines from the current bill of charges against them by the Justice Department.
The SPLC's stated mission included the dismantling of white supremacy and confronting hate across the country.
However, unbeknownst to donors, some of their donated money was being used to fund the leaders and Organizers of racist groups, including the KKK, the Aryan Nations, the National Alliance.
SPLC's paid informants, known as field sources, engaged in the active promotion of racist groups at the same time the SPLC was denouncing the same groups on its website.
In order covertly to pay its field sources, the SPLC opened bank accounts connected to a series of fictitious entities.
The covert nature of the accounts allowed the SPLC to disguise the true nature of source ownership and control.
Of the fraudulently obtained donated money.
Donors were not told that some of the funds would be used by the SPLC to pay high level leaders of violent extremist groups and others, nor were donors ever told that some of the funds were used for the benefit of the violent extremist groups or that some would be used in the commission of state and federal.
The indictment goes on to say that what they were doing, the SPLC, was drumming up.
Hatred so as to terrify its donors and shake more money from the pockets of fools.
It goes on to say the indictment says the payments totaled over $3 million to these molds.
One of the allegations also describes a conspiracy to take and copy, although later return, was what was done in the National Alliance.
And I have heard of at least one occasion in which these documents were used to dox someone who then got fired.
From his rather important job.
Apparently, that was done by someone in the pay of the SPLC.
Correct.
Now, someone known as F9, F is for field agent, was affiliated with the National Alliance between 2014 and 2023.
SPLC paid him more than $1 million.
Now, that is a nine year period, so it does not work out to a million a year or any such thing, but still, that's a tidy piece of change in order to be a spot.
Now, some of the highlights of these various molds that the National Alliance paid, as I say, $1 million or more to this National Alliance person, and somebody at Aryan Nations got paid more than $300,000.
And there's someone at the Unite the Right.
This is alleged to have been an organizer.
He got $270,000 to help organize the Unite the Right rally, and he arranged transportation for some of the people who showed up.
A former National Alliance chairman got $140,000.
Former KKK members got $73,000.
And someone who is described as an American Front president and felon got $19,000.
Now, I've never heard of the American Front.
I was about to ask you that question.
How many of these organizations had you actually heard of?
Well, of course, I've heard of the Aryan Nations, but that's a long time ago.
And National Alliance, that hasn't really been active for, I don't know, ever since Pierce.
What was his first name?
Dr. William Luther Pierce.
I believe he passed away in 2002, if my memory serves correctly.
Yeah, he's been dead for a long time.
And the National Alliance pretty much glimmered away after, although it still exists.
Aryan Nations, that's been kaput for a long time.
The Unite the Right, that was in 2017.
And then that disappeared, or at least it had.
I mean, that was a one time organization.
Or was it even an organization?
No, it wasn't.
Exactly.
It was just a group that were put together ad hoc to do the Unite the Right rally.
In any case, I mean, it does seem like they splashed out a lot of money for people who were basically molds.
But the idea that the SPLC was deceiving its donors and claiming to dismantle groups while actually funneling money into them, that doesn't make sense to me.
They were paying people to go spy.
And that's the sort of thing that these so called watchdogs do.
They send people in and they try to get the hot dope on all of these nasty haters.
And so I just don't think that many of the donors would be upset that the money was spent for that purpose.
But the idea that they were defrauding donors while at the same time pumping up and encouraging and promoting and whooping up all of this horrible racism doesn't make sense to me.
Also, this indictment says that they were paying people to commit federal and state crimes.
I'd like to know what those are.
I think very few people, the people involved, were actually committing crimes.
I know that they decided that the people at the Unite the Right rally, simply by walking around with torches, some of them were indicted, some kind of ancient intimidation law.
And then there were these civil findings against some of the organizers that were just utterly cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo.
And who's to say that the people who were indicted, who lost the civil judgments, I don't think any of them were in the pay of the SPLC.
So the whole thing seems hokey up to me.
Now, I know that a lot of I may be on the other side of the fence from you, Mr. Kerzing, from some of the other comrades who are absolutely delighted to see the SPLC suffer.
But frankly, I don't think they did anything legally wrong.
I'm going to disagree with that.
I think that there's a number of bank fraud charges.
Again, to put together wire fraud charges, to put together this type of an elaborate deployment of the law, as we've seen, it reminds me of something Al Capone and how they got in for tax evasion, creating these shell corporations and basically figuring out ways to hide where those assets were.
Originating from.
It's going to be very interesting.
But, you know, Mr. Taylor, what strikes me as odd about all this is the way that conservatives on X, conservatives on Fox News have jumped on this as a way to say the entire Unite the Right was funded by the SPLC.
All this so called hate.
Because let's be very blunt here.
These people have tried to destroy the lives of so many wonderful people that you and I know.
I think of Kevin Deanna, who was doxxed by this outfit in 2019.
Think of what they tried to do to Stephen Miller because he had read Vidare or he had read an article and shared it with someone from American Renaissance.
Think about what they did to Jason Witchwine.
It really irked me when I saw the Heritage Foundation put out this tweet where they had this white woman dancing with the band and they put out a very snide comment.
The SPLC on their way to fund the KKK.
And it's like, guys, you fired Jason Witchwine because of a SPLC docs and a hit piece on it.
Yes.
You cowards have stymied the true growth of where we truly should be right now.
And I go back to 2017, Mr. Taylor.
I'm not sure if you remember this, but there was an article that the SPLC wrote about the alt right and the gateway.
Do you remember this piece?
Gateway.
No.
A gateway.
A fresh kind of memory.
It broke down.
It broke down the, for our listeners, it is McGinnis.
Molyneux and 4chan investigating pathways to the alt right.
And the article called, at the time it came out, it called Pat Buchanan, Jared Taylor, and Paul Kersey as legacy racists, which is a fascinating term.
But it said that you were, of all the people out there, and this came out April 19th, 2018.
So let me get that correct.
It's April 19th, 2018.
Nine years ago.
You were at the top of that list.
You were more important than Stefan Molyneux, Gavin McGinnis, Red Ice, Milo Yiannopoulos, V Dare, Taki Mag, Richard Spencer, and I were tied.
Millennial Woes, Jim Goad, Steve Saylor, Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, Lauren Southern, Ben Shapiro even made this list, as did Sargon of Akkad.
Gee, well, does this suggest that I was the most dangerous racist in America?
Or maybe the world?
I actually have, I won't go into details, but I have heard that phrase before.
Yeah, and.
Little old lovable me.
Yeah, how dare.
Yeah, I won't go into anecdotal information on that, but I have unfortunately heard that phrase before.
And I'll just be blunt.
If you look at what the SPLC has done to kneecap really great people, Like Scott Greer.
Scott Greer's got a book coming out by Passage Press called White Pill, which hopefully he's told me he wants to come on and talk to us about it on this program.
And I've read the book.
It goes into some detail about how pernicious this organization has been.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Mr. Kersey, Mr. Kersey, I agree 100%.
I know you do.
These people are nasty, awful folks.
The question is, did they break the law?
Now, if we want to go into the whole career, the whole just disgusting, scurvy career of the SBA, And how the founder of it, Morris Dees, he was in the mail order hall of fame because he's so good at raising money by scaring people.
And he turned out to be accused of all sorts of racism and sexism.
And they booted him.
And then all the other folks who were involved getting $400,000 a year, they all turned out to be racist and sexist.
No, the whole thing is just stinks and is rotten top to bottom.
But the issue is here did they break the law?
Now, I probably should not interrupt you in your bill of particulars against them, just how scurvy and awful they are.
But that's the issue here.
Did they break the law?
And the fact that they built shell companies, the reason you do that is say you pay somebody a million dollars and he has got to go to a bank to prove his income so he can get a mortgage.
It may not be comfortable for him to say that he's being paid by the SPLC.
So you've got him being paid by, I don't know, Doleful elephants, or something.
I think they had some of their corporations listed here.
But that's really the issue here.
Now, again, I am no friend of the SPLC.
I remember at one time when I was still making a living as an interpreter for Japanese litigators, and I had a little advertisement that was on the website of the American consulate in Osaka.
And the SPLC got in touch with the State Department, and they said, Do you realize?
This guy, whom you're advertising the services for, is a wicked white supremacist.
And they took down my little advertisement, which they had put up for free.
Now, I mean, that had nothing to do with being a wicked white supremacist.
It was just the way I was making money.
I mean, they really just wanted to take the food out of the mouths of my children.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I mean, they couldn't find a better way to try to make my life miserable.
As it worked out, of course, you know, I ended up stopping doing that, and they probably helped stop doing that.
But now I became a full time bad guy.
So it all backfired.
You became a full time purveyor of what they describe as hate.
And again, you're opening the gateway for a lot of people.
But what I was getting at was this.
And Curtis Yarvin, I think he used to be known as Mendacious Mulbug.
I think that was his name, something like that.
Not Mendacious, Mencius.
Mencius.
Okay, Mencius.
Mendacious is terrible.
Mencius Mulbug.
Thank you for correcting me.
Again, he no longer uses that.
So you don't see that phrase anymore.
But he had a great tweet that I actually agree with.
He said, What's cool is that I don't really see a strong legal case that the SPLC shouldn't be able to run these kind of wacky black ops.
Right.
That means the DOJ is prosecuting the SPLC just because it kind of can.
If so, this would be an unusual sign of finally getting it.
I understand the idea of fair play, but we don't live in a world where anybody gets fair play.
Look at what you said about the UTR and all the guys.
Again, we had nothing to do with that.
We told people not to go, but they were able to find laws.
In some cases, a year later, to say, hey, you guys were intimidating people with these tiki torches from Lowe's or Home Depot or Walmart.
You're all going to be indicted.
And just the, again, if the left is going to use lawfare, the right has to, in my opinion, I'm not speaking for you, you have to not be afraid to do the type of things that will bring about discovery, that will bring about, or you have to do, and that's why I like Yarvin's tweet because he concedes.
But at the same time, he says the right, finally, you're learning what power means.
Well, I don't like it.
Sorry, you can call me a weak sister and hung up on legalities, but Donald Trump is not going to be president forever.
And the Republicans are not going to be in the White House forever.
And the right things are going.
Republicans are not going to be in the Congress, majority in the Congress forever.
And what fits one foot is going to fit the other foot.
And when the shoe is on the other foot, boy, are they going to kick us just as hard as they can.
So, I don't like this kind of thing.
Oh, they'll kick us harder.
They'll kick us far harder.
And that's what you have to accept.
I mean, there is no fair play anymore.
Look what we're going to talk about Virginia very, very soon in this podcast.
That was all pretty awesome.
The left came in once they won an election that the Republicans blew by running this base black immigrant, former lieutenant governor, who she didn't want a primary.
Gerrymandering and Political Fallout 00:14:40
She was appointed by Youngkin.
And all the good things that Youngkin did as governor were literally washed away.
In one day.
You called her based?
There's no way you're based.
It's a joke.
It's a joke.
Oh, I see.
People would call her this based black pro Second Amendment.
There's a photo of her she used in her election, as her election photo of her holding an AR 15, looking sternly at the camera.
And it's like, you just lost probably the worst gubernatorial election ever.
She's probably holding it upside down.
I don't remember seeing that photograph, but I have a lot of love for her.
Oh, she's terrible.
Winsome.
Winsome was her name.
Well, winsome she was not.
Nothing winsome about that girl.
But anyway.
So, well, no, I just don't like the idea.
Okay, we have a chance to nail these people to the wall, whether they deserve it or not.
I just don't like that.
As I say, call me legalistic, call me a weak sister.
You can call me anything you like.
But I think that's.
And I'm sure all our listeners are going to write in and say, oh, that Taylor boy, he just doesn't understand.
If I could make one more point, and I think you'll concede this.
A lot of those groups I had never heard of.
I do know what the National Alliance is, but a lot of these groups I had never heard of.
And when you create an economy, when you're paying these people, they're not dictating policies, organizations, they're keeping tabs on them, as you noted.
And when you create an economy that you can scale, I mean, look back at the past 15, 16 years, how far.
How far our ideas have come.
I mean, Pat Buchanan was fired from MSNBC because the director of that news organ said, you can no longer talk about this stuff of white replacement on air.
And now this is something that is mainstream.
I agree.
I think it's wonderful.
But the ability, sir, but the ability for the SPLC to say, oh my God, Stephen Miller has views that it's the same thing as what the National Alliance and William Luther Pierce was saying.
And so by guilt of association, even if what Dr. Pierce had said, Was anodyne and correct.
And it wasn't something really, really, really far off the wall.
But to have that economy that you can scale as more and more of our ideas are being accepted and embraced, and not only that, but championed by people on the right and elected Republicans.
That's what I've always thought of the SPLC and the ADL because these organizations exist to stop tomorrow from happening for us.
Yes, yes.
But I think they've been losing credibility rapidly.
Without trumped up charges against them.
And this whole business of going after your political enemies on very flimsy legal grounds, sorry, I don't like it.
I guess I'd counter by saying Jason Witchwine should be in the White House right now dictating immigration policy because of an SPLC hit piece.
There are a number of people who still take their moral orders from that organization.
Fewer and fewer.
And my guess is as a result of these lawsuits, they're going to add to their, what is it, $800 million they got in the bank already?
It's a sizable endowment.
Yes, nearly a billion dollars.
They're going to send out a letter saying, look, we are being attacked for being on the side of goodness, truth, and beauty.
All of their people are going to write fat checks.
They'll be richer than ever when this ends up.
But anyway, I mean, it is interesting.
As somebody pointed out, they were apparently denouncing by name in their literature some of the people to whom they were giving money.
Now, there is a certain circular scurviness about that, but.
There you go.
I don't think anything they were doing was illegal.
These people are swine top to bottom, but I don't think they deserve to go to jail for what they were doing.
And this business, I say about shell companies, people do that all the time, conceal the source.
So long as they weren't defrauding the IRS, that's how they got Alphonse Capone, as you're pointing out.
But so long as they were issuing the 1099s from their doleful elephants, corporations, or whatever they were, it's all legal and above board.
But Anyway, there is more to this story, and there's going to be some fallout.
This Michigan Secretary of State and Democrat gubernatorial candidate, Jocelyn Benson, is facing scrutiny over her past role with the SPLC.
Now, like all the people in the top management of the SPLC, she is terribly melanin deprived.
She doesn't even have much of it in her hair.
And so I don't know how someone with so little melanin can even function, but she served on the SPLC's board of directors.
From 2014 to 2019, which overlaps with the timeframe outlined in the indictment.
Well, did she have a hand at any of this?
She's also, and this I think is even more significant, she's facing several lawsuits alleging racial discrimination within the Michigan Department of State, which is what she now heads.
A lawsuit filed just last week by Jacqueline Griffin and Sheryl Ann Sanker, they are melanin fortified, I might add, alleges they were subjected to.
Subjected to discrimination and retaliation, and they want no fewer than $10 million in damages.
This is at least the fourth lawsuit alleging racial discrimination within her department.
A separate lawsuit filed in January alleged a racially hostile environment.
Previous disputes have resulted in settlements, including a $775,000 payout in 2024 to another black woman who alleged a racially hostile work environment.
While screaming racism pays, $775,000 is not bad.
This all comes as Ms. Benson campaigns for governor and is considered a leading Democrat.
Candidate in the election, just 193 days away.
I just find it most entertaining when these I mean, just take one look at this woman, Jocelyn Benson, and you can see I'm progressive.
I'm liberal.
I am just anti racist as it's possible to be written all over her, and she's being accused by these black women, a white woman creating a racist environment for a black woman.
All of this does tickle me, but this is yet more fallout from this SPLC business because this is yet another black mark against her in the eyes of some.
So, but Mr. Kersey, I think you had another little black eye story on the SPLC to tell us about.
Yeah, this comes from Jack Posobick at the whatever his website.
This is a very good piece that I really enjoyed.
He's been very hardcore on attacking the SPLC correctly.
And this is, I'm glad that he was able to bring this back to light because a few years ago, in a 2016 report, it asked educators whether they agreed with the statement I have heard derogatory language or slurs about.
White students.
20% said they had.
So the SPLC actually omitted 2,000 reports of anti white hate crimes within this report.
Well, hate statements.
Well, they write hate crimes, but yeah.
Hate crimes.
They do.
That's the title of the piece.
In a partnership with the American Federation of Teachers, it was released back in 2016, titled The Southern Poverty, The Trump Effect, The Impact of the 2016 Presidential Election on Our Nation's Schools.
It was based on a questionnaire that was circulated among the teachers, unions, members, and K 12 schools who subscribed to its teaching tolerance newsletter.
The report focused on the findings.
Well, now hold on.
So, this is a group that is already SBLC oriented anyway because they subscribe to the SBLC newsletter.
They subscribe to that, but they're also part of the teaching tolerance program, which is in, I mean, my gosh, I think there's something like 40,000, 400,000 educators who are aligned to this.
The point is, you can't be more lefty than that.
This teaching tolerance thing is about as anti white as you can.
Possibly get.
So, all right, these are people who are primed to be looking for anti non white stuff.
Yep.
And the report focused on the finding that 40% of more than 10,000 educators who had responded to the survey have heard derogatory language directed at students of color, Muslims, immigrants, and people based on gender or sexual orientation.
Takeaway from the report was Trump supporting white kids have harassed minorities in schools.
That was later used along with a large report on Trump inspired hate crimes titled 10 Days After Harassment and Intimidation in the Aftermath of the Election.
Well, the Post Millennial reports that, however, they did not mention the results of another question it asked educators whether they had agreed with the statement, I have heard derogatory language or slurs about white students.
The New York Post reported back in 2016 that the SPLC initially said it was struggling to get the information about the data from researchers when asked to provide it.
When pressed, an SPLC spokeswoman, Kirsten Bokenkamp, revealed that about 20% answered affirmatively to that question, equating to around 2,000 respondents.
Well, and they suppressed that information.
Now, so that means 40% said they had heard negative statements about, you mentioned, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and gender dysphoric people, whatever it are.
That's at least four different classes.
And you'd like to know how many blacks?
Maybe less than 20%.
It may be that whites as a group got more anti white stuff than any single other one of these pet groups.
Correct.
Correct.
And of course, that all just bunched, all of the aforementioned that you said, except for whites, were aggregated together.
Again, this was a good find by Post Millennial.
Yes.
By Pasobic, who continues to go on Fox News and point out something that you and I mentioned in the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk assassination that it was in May of 2025 that the SPLC had designated TPUSA every chapter.
A hate group on their hate map, and that they were focusing heavily on exposing Charlie Kirk as one of the main purveyors of hate.
He may have even eclipsed you in their eyes because they could get more money based on his proximity to the president and the halls of power in Washington.
And Charlie said, I'm sorry, Jack has said it best they put a target on my best friend's back.
And that's so.
Well, you could argue that Charlie Kirk had so much influence that he has pushed more people further our way than I ever did.
He had these huge, huge, huge college audiences.
It's true that when the SPLC called him a hate group, he said, Being on their list is a badge of honor.
It means they're terrified.
Keep crying, SPLC.
America's done with your scam.
Now, see, I think that response is better than stringing them up on false charges, but we won't reopen that particular debate.
Yeah, I still remember when Moms for Liberty got added to the hate group list, and a friend of mine actually ran a chapter.
And she was like, What is this?
I thought this was for people like you.
And I was like, Guess what?
You're all like me now.
That's right.
Oh, great answer.
Great answer.
Very good.
Well, let's see.
The next story that this has been in the news to Virginia redistrict business.
This is the wording that appeared on the most recent ballot initiative.
And I'll read it word for word.
Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the Virginia Department of Health to Temporarily adopt new health measures to restore fairness in state government while ensuring Virginia's standard health measures to be followed in 2030.
Now, what the heck does health have to do with this?
Beats me.
But the idea is they're going to restore fairness in state government.
What this really was about was gerrymandering.
The idea was to take the current congressional districts, which are six, there are 11, six are now Democrat, five are now Republican, and that's a pretty accurate reflection of the way people vote in Virginia.
This had to do with redistricting everything so there was only going to be one Republican, 10 Democrats, one Republican, including all of these elaborate gerrymanders that are going to just make sure all the conservative white people are all stuck together and everybody else is sprinkled around so the Democrats get elected.
And so it temporarily allowed the Democrat controlled General Assembly to adopt new congressional maps by bypassing the bipartisan Virginia Redistricting Commission that is required by the Constitution.
So the idea was okay, we have this thing that's set up, it's right there in the Virginia Constitution.
All our districts are going to be set by a bipartisan commission in a fair way.
And heretofore, they've been pretty fair.
But this is a constitutional amendment.
That is going to be inoculated by ballot initiative, and it passed by only a tiny minority.
I'm sorry, a tiny majority.
I beg your pardon.
I was very close.
Yes, yes, I beg your pardon.
And who would not vote for restoring fairness?
Good grief.
But the ballot questions for amendments of this kind are supposed to be clear, neutral, and accurately describe the proposal.
And Taswell County Circuit Judge Jack Hurley, he sounds like a stand up white man to me, he ruled that the language was flagrantly misleading.
So, this constitutional amendment is now for other procedural reasons as well.
You can do a constitutional amendment, but there are various things you have to do.
Both houses of Congress have to vote for it, and then you have to wait for another election, and both houses vote for it again.
And then there's a certain amount of time period between that vote and the time it gets put for the people on the ballot.
And that also they did not follow to the letter.
But this county judge says the whole thing is void from the start, initio.
In Latin.
I've always liked that.
Ab initio.
And so it's blocked certification of the results.
So we'll see.
We'll see.
But, I mean, flagrantly misleading is an understatement on this thing.
You're going to restore fairness in state government.
Gosh, who could be against that?
Virginia Refugee Resettlement Crisis 00:04:21
Well, Mr. Kersey, I think you had a story on another story on Virginia, which while we're talking about Old Dominion, we should talk about all of these refugees flooding into what used to be a healthy, fairly Republican oriented state.
Oh, it's astonishing what's happened.
In 1970, Ann Coulter points out on Twitter, sir, that only one out of every 100 Virginians were foreign born.
By 2012, one in nine Virginians was foreign born.
The population of Fairfax County, where you used to live, where you once resided, is 30% foreign born now.
It's just astonishing the demographic changes of what's happened in places like Arlington, Alexandria, Loudoun County, of course, is probably the prime example of that.
And to think that they redrew the districts so that I believe five of the new districts will run through.
Some form of the Northern Virginia growth of this alien, racial alien population.
And it's astonishing because this is a state that, for better or worse, the history of our great nation has so much that originates from Virginia, from Jamestown to George Washington to Robert E. Lee, just the tremendous Americans who called Virginia home, including you.
For a while, for 25 years, I lived in Virginia.
That's true.
But the source of this story, I think it's important because a friend of mine who hopefully will get on one of these podcasts soon, if you're not following Oilfield Rando on Twitter, please do.
It's just go to Oilfield Rando.
It's a guy, sir, who during COVID, he lost his job.
He is a high ranking guy who's a blue collar guy, and there was no longer a demand for as much oil being pulled out of the ground.
So he was basically furloughed for six months, and he taught himself how to code.
And he's now built this amazing website called Morse Research.
And you can go and look up any state in the union, any zip code, and find out the number of refugees that have been resettled in your home zip code, in your hometown, in your home state.
And the story we're going to read just briefly from is what's happened to Virginia, because he put out this great article.
And again, this is from Morse Research from Oilfield Rando Virginia Refugee Resettlement.
$4.1 billion awarded, 71,000 arrivals.
This was between the fiscal years 2012 and 2026.
The state has recorded 34,850 arrivals through the Refugee Admissions Program, Special Immigrant Visa, and 36,046 unaccompanied alien children.
The vast majority of resettled foreign nationals are Afghans on SIV visas.
The top countries of origin, real quick for you.
They make such great Virginians.
Afghanistan, Iraq, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Bhutan.
I hope I pronounced that correctly.
Bhutan.
Yeah.
We need more Bhutanese.
Every county, every state, every city needs Bhutanese in the worst sort of way.
I wonder what the official dish of Bhutan, of the Bhutanese people, would be, anyways.
And then Syria.
So, again, I strongly encourage everyone to go to Morse Research, give it a follow, subscribe to their newsletter.
This is a one man operation, and he's using AI to write a lot of these articles once he puts in the data for the data points that he's looking for.
It's absolutely brilliant.
And I think you're going to see a lot of aspiring would be public officials start to point out what's happened prior to Trump's destruction of the refugee resettlement program so that it only favors South African Afrikaners.
Which, while you were gone, Tom Hennessy and I did a story where out of 5,000 refugees that have been resettled since October of 2025, Mr. Taylor, all but three were Afrikaners.
Where were the other three from?
Afghanistan, actually.
Oh, no.
Oh, well.
Oh, well.
That's about almost 1,000.
Billion Dollar DEI Funding Scandal 00:08:30
That's a pretty good average.
Yes.
Wow.
Well, you know, I think it is great.
And this is something that I really didn't anticipate years ago when I started working in this field all of these people just cropping up out of nowhere.
So many people doing research, writing things, making videos, doing podcasts.
Our ideas and our point of view in all sorts of different ways.
Even a stand up comedian, good old Leonardo Joni, I never expected stand up comics to be making our points.
It's just everywhere.
Our ideas are taking over.
It's absolutely wonderful.
And I'm so glad that Oilfield Rando, as you call him, is doing this kind of work.
It's a great public service, absolutely great public service.
Yeah.
In the meantime, there is the Mamdani Plan.
Were you aware that New York City has just issued what it calls its Preliminary citywide racial equity plan.
It's a 375 page monument to grievance politics and DEI, in which systemic racism explains every gap in wealth, health, happiness, head size you name it.
It's all systemic racism.
And the equity plan orders 45 New York City agencies to view every budget line, every hiring decision, every service it provides through a racial equity lens.
And you know what that means, Mr. Kersey.
White people get the shaft back of the bus hockey.
And the result is there will be more than 800 strategies and 600 indicators across seven different domains that clothe institutionalized racial preference in the garb of justice.
And all of this, of course, will cost millions of dollars.
The missions and commitments of city agencies are described with such terms as systemic disparity, racial inequities, disrepresentation, discrimination, bias, segregation, and marginalized.
And the goals are to reinterpret all of the agency's histories as structurally biased, every one of them, every one of them.
And they have to conduct extensive top to bottom, left to right anti bias training, disaggregate data until all the disparities are disclosed and then made to disappear.
Through differential funding.
Now, apparently, in these 375 pages, the words race or racist, racial, et cetera, that appears 751 times.
That sounds like about three times per page.
And Mamdani's plan may come under legal challenge.
Well, I should think so.
U.S. Attorney General, Assistant Attorney General Harmeet Dillon says it sounds fishy.
It sounds more than fishy to me.
But the plan invites public feedback through May 6th.
So, you can find it.
It's called the Preliminary Citywide Racial Equity Plan.
And I don't know if you have to live in New York City to put in your two cents worth, but this is the kind of thing that our Muslim mayor of New York City makes one of his priorities.
So, it's really quite interesting.
You get a president who has been combating DEI, slashing it with a huge machete right and left every chance he gets.
And, of course, in the rest of the country, wherever you've got somebody like Mamdani in office, They are beavering away at DEI like never before.
Now, Mr. Kersey, I think you have a story about Atlanta, a city that you know well.
And it's also going in the wrong direction, pretty lickety split.
Well, the reason why I think these are such good stories to follow up on is because, like you said, you have the federal government taking a machete, taking a broadsword to all these programs at the same time at the municipal level.
You're seeing the exact opposite try and take place through the court system or through strategically worded programs and initiatives.
And in Atlanta, we already talked about how they didn't take the money for the airport and for the city.
They just said, we're not going to do that.
We'll give up a couple, we'll give up $30 million because we could control this airport that produces billions in revenue for us every year.
Well, now they're quietly joining a fight against the anti DEI push by Trump.
In February, the city banded with more than a dozen other cities and counties.
To become additional plaintiffs in an existing lawsuit filed last summer by a group led by Fresno, California.
The lawsuit, Fresno v. Turner, is one of several filed by municipalities and authorities over the last year against federal agencies and their leaders, including Scott Turner, Secretary of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.
He's a black guy who's done quite a great job of smoking out and fumigating public housing from illegal aliens, actually.
I'm not sure if you followed him, but he's done a tremendous job.
At issue is a set of new grant terms instituted by Trump and his admin.
That requires all entities receiving federal funding, including municipal governments, to participate in immigration enforcement and eliminate DEI initiative requirements.
Now, last summer, as I mentioned, Hartsfield Atlanta International Airport, I refuse to call it Hartsfield Jackson, it lost millions of dollars in Federal Aviation Administration funding after the city owned airport's leader refused to sign the new terms.
Atlanta and go ahead, go ahead.
Well, in other words, they would rather give up millions of federal dollars than turn their back on DEI.
Because DEI is basically what has enabled a fake black middle class to be created with a vice grip that the city has held since the 1970s on the airport.
I guess it's just been a way to funnel millions and millions, far more than 20 million.
Billions.
Yeah, you're talking about billions every year, sir.
Into the pockets of these fat cat blacks.
Now, why do you refuse to call it Hartsfield Jackson?
It's named after Andrew Jackson, you know.
No, it's actually named after.
It's actually named.
I wish it were.
That'd be great.
You know what?
I'll tell you what.
We can probably retcon that because so many of the Cherokee were actually.
The Trail of Tears goes through that part of Georgia.
So I guess we could retcon it.
So it's no longer named after Maynard Jackson.
We can call it Hartsfield.
Andrew Jackson.
Andrew Jackson.
Yeah.
But.
Atlanta and the other Fresno v. Turner plaintiffs have asked a federal judge to temporarily prohibit the agencies from enforcing these terms as the case proceeds.
If amended, I'm sorry, in the amended complaint filed in February, Atlanta stated it relies on many millions of dollars in federal funding, including anticipating nearly $25 million for housing, $68 million in transportation grants, nearly $49 million from the FAA, and $2.4 million from the EPA.
That's your tax dollars, ladies and gentlemen.
Atlanta depended.
On an estimated $1.4 billion in federal funding last year alone, according to a city document reviewed by the AJC.
Mr. Taylor, I've long thought that the way to really put a squeeze on all these cities is just to withhold funding.
If you are not in compliance with the letter of the law when it comes to the concept of equality and not discriminating based on race, and yes, white people, as we now know, are protected by that, you don't get the funding.
Well, that's exactly what the Trump administration is doing.
I wonder who is the smart guy in the administration who came up with this.
In a way, it's obvious, but it's the sort of thing that no other administration had tried before, and I think it's absolutely wonderful.
That's just such, for one city, $1.4 billion to rely on that to basically create a patronage system where you can create this otherwise fake black bureaucracy.
And we already saw last year, we talked about this a lot, what happened when the federal government started to.
Excise a lot of these jobs and these programs, what that did to Maryland and to areas like Prince George's County, where they are heavily black and they're heavily dependent on the federal government jobs.
Once they're gone, the free market doesn't exactly have many opportunities.
They're going to pay them six figures to shuffle papers and emails back to one another about how can we screw Whitey today.
Mystery Ending on Toddler Case 00:05:38
Afraid not.
Afraid not.
The free market just does not have much demand for that.
Well, I guess after all, they decided that they can't turn their back on $1.4 billion a year.
And so they're going to attack the thing headlong and say, yes, we are going to keep discriminating and we're going to make sure the courts allow us to keep discriminating against nasty whitey.
Well, I think that in the current situation, that's going to fail.
If that goes to the Supreme Court, that will fail.
And then they're going to have to either, well, what they will do, of course, is they will get rid of all the DEI language, but they will keep doing the DEI dance.
That is my suspicion.
Well, let's turn the music off so they can stop dancing.
Yes.
Anyway, let's see.
Here's a Canadian story.
Canadian man was sentenced to just six months in prison after being caught on camera choking and kicking a toddler.
British Columbia Provincial Judge Tamara Galensky, it's always names like Tamara who take pity on these people, made the decision after the man, whose initials are KJM, pleaded guilty to choking and assaulting a toddler.
He didn't kill the child, by the way.
Well, this 33 year old attacked his girlfriend's child on two occasions while he was coming down from cocaine.
In the first assault, he kicked and then choked the child, holding him down against the car.
But the second time, he went into the room where the toddler was crying, kicked him in the head, and left him lying on his back.
Didn't go back to check him.
I think that might very well have killed him.
But as he told the court, his emotions were fueled by agitation because he was coming down from a cocaine high.
And the boy's mother got suspicious and looked at nanny camera footage, and that's the only reason this guy was caught.
Well, in the sentencing document, why just six months for all this brutality against a toddler?
Judge Galinsky, Judge Tamara, she referred to KJM's indigenous heritage over and over.
She said, While I acknowledge there's no evidence that he or his immediate family were impacted by state actions such as residential school, but even the association with one's Past and cultural heritage is a negative consequence of colonization.
So that's why he only got six months.
The fact that you're an Indian doesn't make any difference, you know, whether you really suffered anything at all.
And those living today certainly didn't suffer.
And the fact of going to residential schools meant you learned English, meant you had salable skills.
But anyway, this white judge just gave him a slap on the wrist because he's Indian.
Now, this has got a happy ending.
He now lives on Vancouver Island with his new girlfriend.
And her preteen son.
So he apparently has no difficulty getting live in girlfriends.
He's a charming guy.
Let's see, have we got the time?
Okay.
Let's see, Lynette Lockhart moving back to the United States as a black assistant prosecuting attorney in Pike County, Missouri.
Well, in May 2024, she filed a legal complaint against a defense attorney that argues in her court named Scott Campbell for referring to her as a, and this is a word we're not ever supposed to pronounce, in March of that year.
The 60 year old white man was talking to another lawyer about problems with various people on the court.
And Campbell and this lawyer said he had a terrible time with this woman.
He said, Is it because she's a.
And this got back to Lockhart.
She didn't even hear it herself.
But she wrote in her complaint the following, and this is really why I thought this was interesting.
When I learned that Mr. Campbell called me a.
I cried.
I was offended, hurt.
She goes on to say that she suffered for weeks.
On end with self doubt, incessant questioning, and frankly, fear of anyone around me.
She wrote that this word made her feel like others looked at her as a criminal, a piece of garbage or trash, a piece of property with a dollar value worth less than a dog, and unworthy of rights, justice, education, success, or safety.
Now, of course, the guy who uttered this unspeakable word could be reprimanded, suspended, disbarred, or he could get no punishment at all.
His fate is in the hands of the Missouri Supreme Court.
Now, it's a reaction to this woman.
She cried.
She spent weeks in a state of just terror and horror.
Now, I ask you, Mr. Kersey, is she just lying to whoop up some sort of sympathy?
Or do you think she really was so traumatized at the idea that at some point, Out of her hearing, someone had used this vicious, horrible, mortal, killing word in reference to her.
I just can't make head or tail for this.
What do you think?
No, no comment.
Yeah, it's mysterious.
It's mysterious.
Well, I guess we'll just end this episode on a mystery, and maybe some of our listeners know more about this case than we do.
I think that she just hokeyed this up.
Either that or she's just absolutely psychotic to have gone into conniptions like this because some white person, when she wasn't even there, Referred in what he thought was a private conversation to her as a uh uh uh uh.
Oh, boy, incredible.
Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, it is great to be back.
And we look forward to spending this time with you next week.
It is a joy and a pleasure.
Thank you very, very much.
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