Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor - White Students Chased Off Black Campus

Sept. 26, 2025 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor

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White Students Chased Off Black Campus

Jared Taylor and Paul Kersey pity the two young whites who were menacingly unwelcome at Tennessee State University. The hosts also discuss ICE shootings, Antifa prosecutions, George Soros, and genocidal dice games.

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	Ladies and gentlemen, esteemed listeners, welcome to Radio Renaissance.
	I'm your host, Jared Taylor.
	Today is September 25th, and with me is my indispensable co-host, the incandescent Paul Kersey.
	And let's begin with comments.
	One listener writes in to say, Paul Kersey keeps himself anonymous, so I can only imagine what he looks like in real life.
	However, I heard he likes the movie Van Helsing, so I imagine him looking like Van Helsing.
	And Uncle Jared is the guy in the background who plays the instrumental guitar soundtrack.
	Well, Mr. Kersey, as usual, when it comes to pop culture, I'm a total ignoramus.
	Who is Van Helsing?
	And I assume he is one of these rugged, handsome movie star guys, and you should be very flattered to think you look like him.
	Wow, that is actually flattering.
	It's a 2004 movie starring Hugh Jackman, off his obviously Van Helsing, the vampire hunter from Bram Schuger's Dracula.
	I see.
	Well, well, that's who you sound like.
	So, congratulations.
	Here's another comment.
	The latest radio renaissance considered a listener's observation and a suggestion about jackhammering the MLK statue on the Washington Mall.
	Here is what Hungary did with the similarly repellent statues that the communists installed.
	And this listener kindly sent me a link to Memento Park, which is not far outside of Budapest.
	There they've got loads of old communist era statues.
	Some of them, I think, quite heroic-looking.
	I kind of like statues of Lenin, really.
	You know, he's looking vast and looking brave.
	And yes, I think there's an argument to be made that to put them all in one place and people can wander around and admire or despise them however they like.
	But again, I kind of like the idea of leaving them in place.
	Just letting people never forget just how cuckoo and crazy this country was.
	Furthermore, the MLK statue that's right on the mall, that's this enormous stone thing.
	It would probably be impossible to move anyplace else.
	Although, I don't know, I guess they got it there.
	Did they have it in pieces and assemble it?
	I don't know.
	But yes, that is one plan.
	Make a sort of sculpture garden for all the follies of the past.
	Well, just remember, Mr. Taylor, the glee that so many people had when Monument Avenue in Richmond, Virginia was piece by piece desecrated.
	And I believe they actually cut the Robert E. Lee statue that had been put up in 1890 in half once it was brought down.
	Yes, they did.
	Though that's absolutely disgusting, at least that would be better than destroying them the way we're doing.
	And one Confederate wonderful statue after another is being melted down, destroyed, cut in two.
	Oh, it is utterly repellent.
	Here's another comment.
	You were talking rightly about the Camp of the Saints being republished, and that's a wonderful thing.
	You mentioned the philosopher who translated the recent edition of the book as the best modern philosopher I know.
	Well, I'm not sure I said that.
	What I believe I said is that the translator of the new Camp of the Saints also translated the works of Renault Camus, and he is the best modern philosopher I know.
	I believe that is what I said, but who knows?
	My listeners.
	That's exactly what you said, Mr. Taylor.
	Ah, you confirm.
	Because that publisher, they published his just incredible book.
	The title escapes me right now.
	It is Enemy of the Disaster.
	Yes.
	Oh, I think that's such an eloquent, eloquent, inspiring book.
	Camus really is a genius, and he's thought deeply, deeply, deeply about so many important things.
	I think he is the best modern philosopher I know of.
	You have these people who claim to be philosophers, and they go into just incredible flights of fancy, but what is the meaning of a word?
	It's just quantified, just deep, deep, deep trivia, if you ask me.
	But our listener said, I was taken aback when, in other words, when I called the translator, or what he thought I called the translator, the great philosopher, he says, because I found you first on Stefan Molyneux's Free Domain Radio, now called Free Domain.
	He is at least a philosopher that was good enough to introduce me to your message.
	Can you give him a call-up?
	Well, yes, I certainly can.
	Stefan Molyneux is a very, very smart guy.
	He talks about a whole variety of things.
	And he was kicked off of YouTube where he had gained, what was it, at least half a million followers, maybe close to a million.
	By my recollection, maybe 800,000.
	That was really his complete livelihood.
	That was his claim to fame.
	That was his one important platform.
	And just about the time we were bounced, I think it was about 2020, he was kicked off.
	It was just a terrible blow to him because he had hardly anything else.
	But he's come back and he is making his message audible to more people.
	So yes, hooray for Stefan Molyneux.
	Now, the first item we'd like to talk about is this very recent ICE shooting.
	A shooter opened fire at a U.S. ICE enforcement ICE facility in Dallas.
	That was just Wednesday morning, leaving one detainee dead and two others wounded.
	And the gunman was Joshua John, who shot himself.
	Ammunition that he left behind, now this seems to be the latest thing.
	You know, you write things on shell casings.
	Why do you leave ammunition behind?
	A shell, you know, the casing is not going to travel with the bullet.
	I just don't see the point of it unless, well, actually, this guy did kill himself, so I suppose this is a way of at least leaving a suicide note.
	But why have some tiny little message on a shell casing?
	In any case, one of the rounds that I saw had the phrase anti-ice written in blue on it.
	In any case, he fired at an ICE building from a rooftop indiscriminately, it is said, including at the van where the window, where the victims were hit.
	He's reported to have used an 8-millimeter bolt-action rifle.
	I would assume that is an 8-millimeter Mauser cartridge.
	It's pretty much comparable to the 306 round that that guy used to kill Charlie Kirk.
	Both are capable of landing medium-sized and large game at 300 to 400 yards.
	And as it turns out, this guy appeared to have been just a few hundred feet away and was firing indiscriminately with a bolt-action rifle.
	Sheesh, you'd think he'd use a semi-automatic of some kind if he really wanted to do something effective.
	He left behind handwritten notes saying he wanted to terrorize ICE employees.
	Well, outside the field office, this is a place where a few dozen community members, community members, that's a nice way of saying people who support illegal immigration, have been gathering weekly to hold prayer vigils.
	They've carried signs with messages such as, families belong together.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	On the other side of the border, that's where they belong together.
	Now, Jan appears to be a white man, not much known about his politics, but I'm guessing he's not much of a MAGA supporter.
	And, Mr. Kersey, you call to my attention, it's just been released the news that he was using Ice Block.
	And this is an app that lets user alert folks nearby to sightings of ICE agents in the area.
	It was developed by a guy named Joshua Aaron.
	And he says, what I saw was happening in this country, I wanted to do something to fight back.
	To him, he says, it's reminiscent of Nazi Germany.
	We're literally watching history repeat itself.
	What users do is add a pin on a map showing where they spotted agents, along with notes like what the officers were wearing, what kind of car they were driving.
	And other users within a five-mile radius will then receive a push notice alerting them of this dangerous and fearful sighting.
	So this latest shooter no doubt thinks he was stopping people from being hauled off to Auschwitz.
	Good, this is just such crazy stuff.
	Now, Mr. Kersey, I want to clap myself on the back, and I think you can assure me that I have a right to do so, because did I not say very early on in the Trump administration that people were going to start shrieking about Auschwitz when he started rounding people up?
	You did?
	Did I not say that?
	I believe that was 2017.
	Yes, I did say that.
	Anyway, I think you have some more points to add to this ICE shooting, or have I covered it adequately?
	You had sent me some information.
	Well, it's just fascinating to think that it was only a month and a half ago, well, late June, when CNN was running public relations for that app, the ICE app that you're talking about.
	And the headline was, quote, I wanted to do something to fight back.
	And if you recall, his girlfriend worked for the Department of Justice, and she was a stakeholder in the app.
	Oh, that's right.
	She was a co-owner.
	Now, didn't she get her walking papers?
	She did.
	She did get her walking papers.
	Yes, sir.
	And it's just a fascinating story because you just start to think, and you wonder how many people are animated now by that constant discourse and dialogue from the left.
	Just the other night, Gavin Newsom went on Steve Colbert's program and just continually talked about just how awful mass deportations are and the dehumanizing manner in which the right and the Trump administration is talking about illegals.
	And then you have the shooting the next morning.
	Well, it is so clear to me.
	These people have no conception of rule of law, no conception of what national boundaries mean, no conception of national sovereignty.
	And I completely ignore all this chatter from people who think every illegal who manages to stagger into the country deserves to stay.
	No, sorry, he doesn't.
	End of story.
	And the only other thing, sir, to say about Joshua John is that FBI Director Cash Patel has said the suspect had not only searched for the apps in August that tracked the location of ICE agents, but that he had also been researching a video of conservative activists Charlie Kirk's assassination before carrying out the pre-dawn attack on September 24th there in Texas.
	And again, sir, we'd be wrong not to bring up the fact that this wasn't the first attack on ICE in Texas.
	Back in July, when anti-fossel was broken up, and I believe there was the Asian ringleader was on the run for a while, and it turns out that a number of the people who were going to be participants in this attack, this ambush on ICE agents, they were transgender.
	This is the third one in Texas, or maybe the fourth.
	It's at least the third that involved firearms, killing.
	Oh, yeah, they're getting pretty frisky, those lefties.
	Now, to move on towards this Kirk investigation.
	Now, of course, we're not.
	There doesn't seem to be too much dispute about who the killer was, although I saw a posting on UNS.
	He was arguing that, what's this guy's name?
	Robinson.
	Robinson could not have been.
	Taylor Robinson?
	Tyler.
	Tyler Robinson.
	Tyler.
	Not Taylor.
	Come on.
	No.
	Yes.
	In any case.
	That back in 2012 with the Arizona shooting, right?
	Oh, yes, Jared Lawford.
	For close calls.
	Let's not get into that.
	A federal investigation into the assassination has yet to find a link between 22-year-old Tyler Robinson and any left-wing group.
	Every indication so far is that this was one guy who did one really bad thing.
	It may be difficult to charge Robinson at the federal level for Kirk's killing, although there's still an expectation that the feds will try to file something against him.
	The factors that have complicated the effort to bring charges, federal charges, include the fact that Robinson, a Utah resident, did not travel from one state to another.
	Now, it seems to me that in this age of easy crossing of borders, not just state but international, the fact that you cross a border suddenly makes you subject to federal jurisdiction.
	I'm not very keen on that, but also the fact that Kirk was not a federal officer or an elected official.
	Now, again, it doesn't seem to me the fact that somebody is an elected official means that you have to try them under any special law.
	That's murder, either way.
	All of this proliferation of laws at the federal level, the state level, I don't like it, Mr. Kersey.
	Robinson faces state charges, and the Utah prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.
	Isn't that enough?
	His mother told investigators that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and started to lean more left.
	There's no federal law that makes acts of domestic terrorism a standalone crime, although prosecutors can seek a sentencing enhancement after a conviction if they can persuade a jury that this was domestic terrorism.
	But all by itself, that's not a crime.
	The FBI frequently gets involved in domestic terrorism investigations that ultimately result only in state-level charges.
	Now, Trump and his allies have threatened to come after left-wing advocacy groups that they say as fomenting the anger that led to Kirk's death.
	Stephen Miller, who I consider to be the best white man in the White House, he is deputy chief of staff.
	He said something about maybe for the first time that I disagree with.
	He said left-wing organizations amounted to a vast domestic terror movement.
	With God as my witness, we're going to use every resource we have in the Department of Justice, Homeland Security, and throughout this government to identify, disrupt, dismantle, and destroy these networks and make America safe again.
	It will happen, and we'll do it in Charlie's name.
	Well, what is this network?
	I don't like the idea of going after people who have ideas.
	And of course, I think it was just announced today or yesterday that a senior Justice Department official has instructed more than half a dozen U.S. attorneys to draft plans to investigate the Open Society Foundation, funded, of course, by George Solos, the billionaire Democrat donor whom President Trump says deserves to be in jail.
	Now, probably everyone listening to us, Mr. Kersey, knows who George Solos is, but he began this global grant network decades ago to fund Democrat, democratic initiatives around the world, particularly in communist and formerly communist countries.
	Now, he was from Hungary, and Hungary kicked him out or kicked his organizations out, deciding that he was a foreign agent.
	They wanted none of his meddling.
	In the 1990s, the organization then expanded its work to the United States, and the possible charges that the feds are supposed to look into include racketeering, arson, wire fraud, and material support for terrorism.
	Arson?
	Arson?
	Gee, I don't quite understand that.
	I don't think that the Open Society Foundation is in the business running around setting fires.
	But Soros-backed group.
	Now, this is to me one of the worst things this guy's done, but it's legal.
	They have given money to help elect no fewer than 75 prosecutors, these social justice prosecutors.
	You and I have discussed them many times, Mr. Kersey.
	Oh, yeah.
	And the Soros boys have spent about $40 million doing that.
	And some of their successes include some of the absolute worst, most miserable prosecutors in the entire country.
	George Gascon in Los Angeles, Larry Krasner in Philadelphia.
	We talked about him.
	Alfred Bragg in New York.
	Kim Fox in Chicago.
	These people are awful.
	They never met a criminal they didn't love.
	They never met a victim that they did not look upon with deep skepticism and suspicion.
	But the Open Society Foundation naturally denounces these accusations as politically motivated attacks on civil society meant to silence speech that the administration disagrees with and to undermine the First Amendment.
	Well, Mr. Kersey, I'm going to get a lot of flack for this, but this time I agree with the Open Society Foundation.
	They can jabber all they want.
	They can make political donations all they want.
	All that is legal, legal, legal.
	They say our activities are peaceful and lawful.
	Organizations should not be attacked for carrying out their mission or expressing their values.
	One of the values they apparently approve of is redistricting in California.
	The Soros family spent $10 million or gave $10 million to Democrats to help them redraw congressional districts as part of a nationwide fight to maintain control of Congress.
	Now, that, of course, was in retaliation for the five new Republican districts that were added by redistricting in Texas.
	But, Mr. Kersey, all of this stuff is legal.
	And as you know, I always have an eye out for possible change in administration.
	And if you start saying that the Soros people, they have no right, they should go to jail, got some sort of RICO thing going.
	If we continue to say the things we do, Mr. Kersey, and somebody says, I believe in racial separation, goes out, shoots people, says, I got this idea from Jared Taylor and Paul Kersey.
	Does that mean we are fined?
	We go to jail.
	I do not like any of this, Mr. Kersey.
	Well, I'll tell you, the whole RICO conversation, you brought up an interesting point about paying for arson because I'm not making any suggestion that the Open Society paid for this, but back in 2023, sir, I've got to bring this up.
	Well, I've got a whole section on this.
	Oh, you do?
	Okay.
	Good, good, good.
	Yes.
	Well, why don't you set the scene, though, by saying Atlanta, Georgia, believe it or not, is a hotbed for Antifa.
	There were a number of websites that have been traced to being their origin there.
	I think it's going down.
	I'm not even sure if they're still around, but these are sites that go after doxing, that go after anybody who brings up anything.
	Well, it used to be to the right of Charlie Kirk, but now Charlie Kirk, at the end of his life, came our way.
	And he was, of course, as I said on a prior podcast with you, sir, he was attacked by Media Matters for America and the SPLC quite explicitly in a lot of their material.
	So it turns out that in Atlanta, they were doing this new build for what was commonly known as Cop City.
	And this entity, they call themselves Defend the Atlanta Forest, an environmental group described by the Attorney General's Office of Georgia as an anarchist, anti-police, and anti-business extremist organization.
	They decided they wanted to occupy it so that it couldn't be built.
	And, well, I'll let you take over from what takes place after that.
	Yes, the official name of the site was Atlanta Public Safety Training Center.
	It has officially opened, by the way, despite these wild attempts by these crazy folks, including Unicorn Riot.
	That is definitely an Antifa-affiliated organization.
	And I remember being astonished by the videos taken when they all got together to try to attack this construction site.
	They're firing firecrackers.
	They're tearing down fences.
	They're burning construction equipment.
	This is really pretty wild stuff.
	And as it happens, in September of 2023, Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr indicted 61 people under the state's RICO law.
	Now, the charges included racketeering, domestic terrorism, arson, money laundering, and other related offenses.
	Now, domestic terrorism.
	Curiously, unlike the federal statute, I'm sorry, in the federal case, there's no such crime as domestic terrorism.
	As I pointed out, it can result in a punishment enhancement.
	But Georgia does have a standalone state crime of domestic terrorism.
	This was enacted in 2017 as part of what's called the Georgia Homeland Defense Act.
	And that, Mr. Kersey, was prompted by the 2015 Charleston church shooting by Dylan Roof.
	So, and this law was then expanded to include property crimes intended to change government policy through intimidation or coercion.
	So, if the state of Georgia is building a police training center and you go and you destroy fences, you pull down walls and you burn bulldozers and hearth movers, then you can be a domestic terrorist.
	In any case, these were the charges.
	Racketeering, domestic terrorism, arson, money laundering.
	Now, I don't know what sort of money laundering they would have done.
	Now, this could be a pathway to going after George Soros.
	Correct?
	Yes, if Soros' money was somehow being funneled into this kind of violent activity through the back door, then maybe you've got something.
	But in September 24, prosecutors dropped the money laundering counts.
	That's too bad.
	So apparently, that is no longer on the books.
	There wasn't enough evidence.
	The state of Georgia had to drop those, correct?
	Well, but there are no federal charges so far.
	It's all Georgia charges, all state charges.
	Correct.
	Furthermore, on September 9th of this year, just a few days ago, I hadn't heard about it until I started digging into this.
	Fulton County Judge Kevin Farmer ruled that the RICO charges against all 61 defendants have to be dismissed.
	That's incredible.
	Well, the reason, this is all very convoluted and legalese and something I don't understand, but the state attorney general, according to this judge, didn't have authority under Georgia law to bring the indictments under RICO without the governor's approval.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Now, does that mean the governor would not have approved or they just didn't bother?
	In any case, Georgia's Attorney General is going to appeal the dismissal of the RICO charges.
	Now, as I've said to you before, I'm very suspicious of RICO, especially, and I've talked about this before on this program, after the 2017 unfortunate events in Charlottesville, people were charged under conspiracy laws, RICO-like conspiracy laws, for being part of a conspiracy that they didn't even know they were part of.
	I mean, these RICO charges, I think they're very, very suspicious.
	In any case, there do remain the domestic terrorism and arson charges.
	And I think, you know, people set fire to stuff, arson.
	That's pretty clear.
	So, the first RICO trial actually took place.
	And the defendant was someone known as Isla King.
	Now, she is one of those they-thems.
	From her photographs taken in court, she appears to be a more or less normal-looking sort of chubby woman.
	And there's no word on whether she's transitioning.
	I mean, she wears lipstick and earrings, at least in court, but claims to be non-binary.
	Now, Mr. Kersey, is this what we used to call bisexual?
	It's just all so confusing to me.
	I try to think about a lot of that stuff, sir.
	Well, inquiring minds want to know.
	In any case, her trial began just July of this year, just a couple of months ago, but it ended in a mistrial on weird procedural grounds, not a hung jury.
	So if the RICO dismissal stands, then the state cannot retry Isla King on RICO charges.
	But it's a good chance of her going to court again on domestic terrorism, arson, conspiracy to commit arson, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
	Now, there was one of the 61 defendants in this case that was of particular interest to you and me.
	His name is Thomas Webb Juergens, and he was working as a staff attorney for your and my favorite nonprofit organization, the Southern Poverty Law Center.
	So he was charged with domestic terrorism, RICO, all that good stuff.
	He claims that he was acting as a legal observer, that he was wearing identifying gear consistent with legal observation.
	Now, I wonder what that would be, rather than participating in the violence.
	But he was released on $5,000 bond.
	He was charged under the RICO statute.
	And if that goes forward, he could still be tried, but he may face remaining counts, specifically domestic terrorism, arson, depending on what happens.
	So this is all a convoluted, complicated state of affairs, but it does seem to me the state of Georgia is really going after these people.
	Well, what's also fascinating, sir, is this is low-hanging fruit that the FBI could jump in on.
	Well, it seems to me that there are clear acts of illegality.
	And when you set fire to bulldozers, when you break things down, these people are firing powerful firecrackers at the police guarding the facility.
	There are clearly crimes committed here.
	And on a previous occasion, there was an activist by the name of Manuel Esteban Taez-Tehran, known as Totuguita.
	He was shot and killed by Georgia state patrol officers on January 18th, 2023, during a police raid on their encampment.
	They were in a forest near where Cop City was being constructed.
	He opened fire at officers with a handgun, and that's never a good idea.
	They returned fire, and that was the end of Tortuguita.
	So one fewer Antifa to worry about.
	But that is the state of play with that rather dramatic attempt to attack and disrupt the Cop City.
	Now, the event that I'm talking about, where they burned construction equipment, broke down fences, shot firecrackers, police officers.
	That's just one of many.
	That was the one that stuck in my mind because there was a lot of altercations.
	And like you said, Unicorn Riot was one of the main websites that was an Antifa-affiliated website that did a lot back in 2020 of documenting the violence that was breaking out all across the country.
	And they also did a lot of the videos of the Trump protests in 2015, 2016, when Antifa squared off with just your run-of-the-mill Trump supporters.
	And, you know, I won't tease who will probably be the guest when you won't be able to join us next week, but somebody who lives in Atlanta tells me all the time about this Antifa attack back in 2017, sir, when there was a LGBT advocate who had a handgun on the campus of Georgia Tech.
	He was shot by police, and then more than 50 masked individuals marched through Georgia Tech, basically forcing Georgia Tech students to shelter in place because they were getting in physical confrontations with the police.
	They threw a flare into a police cruiser and they burned it down.
	And there's been no arrest on that, right?
	There's not been one arrest since then.
	Yes.
	I've heard this story many times, but what happened after these assaults on the Atlanta Public Safety Training Center suggests to me that eventually the local authorities had had enough.
	That's the same Georgia Bureau of Investigation, the local police.
	So I think they've finally gotten some backbone.
	What's fascinating about the Georgia Tech story, sir, is the guy who was shot, he was the president of the university's Pride Alliance, a huge LGBT advocate.
	And again, it just kind of goes and ties, sort of eerily ties with a lot of what's going on with the terror attacks that we're seeing.
	It just goes to show you these Antifa types.
	Whenever they take off their masks, you actually look at their botched, freakish faces.
	You know, there is something wrong with these people.
	Almost always you can tell at a glance.
	It is.
	One's important, especially in Seattle.
	Golly, these people, no, they look like, you know, Mr. Potato Face or Potato Head.
	Did you ever have that when you were a child?
	And somebody put the ears on upside down or somebody put the eyes on one higher than the other.
	And, you know, the nose is crooked.
	These people are just weird.
	That or that great silent film, the horror film, Fan of the Opera, when he finally takes his mask off.
	You're like, oh, the Phantom of the Opera.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Well, Mr. Kersey, you were going to tell us about the terrorist threat at the Kirk Vigil and how MAGA got run off of Tennessee State.
	Boy, things are hopping up.
	Couple very interesting stories.
	Yeah, a black guy was arrested after he made social media threats hours before students and community members gathered for vigil honoring Kirk at the University of Texas at San Antonio.
	Zalen Dunbar, 19 years old.
	He's been charged with making a terroristic threat by intentionally and knowingly threatening to commit violence.
	He suggested in a September 15th Facebook comment that he planned to use his truck to disrupt the vigil, which drew roughly a thousand people later that evening.
	I mean, Mr. Taylor, again, you and I have said we just didn't pay close enough attention to Kirk, but it was astonishing to see the size of some of these vigils and rallies that were held across the country in Kirk's memory.
	I'll say he's far more famous dead than he was alive.
	Yeah.
	The threat surfaced on the Facebook page of the San Antonio Young Republicans, which promoted the campus vigil for Kirk.
	This is a disgrace, and I can tell you right now, I'm going to make sure this won't be good nor comforting vigil.
	Y'all watch and see.
	I'm going to make this movie, me and my truck.
	I'm going to make this moody.
	I'm going to make this a movie.
	A movie.
	It's a movie.
	Me and my truck.
	Dunbar allegedly wrote per the affidavit cited by the San Antonio Express news.
	So I guess he was going to do like, I can't remember what city that was.
	Was it Waukesha?
	Waukesha.
	Waukesha.
	Waukesha, Wisconsin, when they had that Christmas parade and the black guy ran over all the white people back in.
	Well, just remember, I kind of forgot about it, but on New Year's Day this year, there was that Muzzie who put an ISIS flag on the back of his truck.
	Yes, mowed down Bourbon Street.
	But I think, was this guy, was this black guy actually somewhat more explicit about his plan to do?
	Well, the comments were flagged by the Southwest Texas Fusion Center, an interagency intelligence hub run by the San Antonio police and relayed to the University of Texas San Antonio Police Department.
	He admitted to posting the Facebook comments and acknowledged they could be seen as threatening, but he insisted he was being dumb and clowning around.
	He allegedly told officers, sir, even if I'm 19 years old, that doesn't mean I won't still act like a kid.
	He's talking his ways out of it.
	Asked if the threats were worse criminal charges, he replied, if that's what it takes, I did what I did and I can take the consequences, according to the affidavit.
	So he's currently in Bexar County Jail on an unboxing.
	That's pronounced Behar account.
	Well, I appreciate you letting me know that.
	As far as Waukesha is concerned, at first I was pronouncing Waukesha, and somebody pointed out, no, no, this is not a first name for one of our African-American fellow citizens.
	It's Waukesha.
	Waukesha.
	Waukesha.
	So, so I was corrected.
	I was pronouncing it incorrectly.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	So he was basically going to pull a Christmas market in Germany, a New Year's celebration on Bourbon Street, just mow down people with his truck.
	Well, so he is cooling his heels in the Behar County Jail.
	But some of his friends in Nashville have the exact opposite.
	They actually went out and confronted a group wearing MAGA hats carrying signs with what has been called inflammatory messages who were removed from the HBCU, the historically black college university there, Tennessee State University in Nashville.
	These two white guys appeared on campus on September 23rd, according to a Facebook post from the Nashville chapter, the NAACP.
	Wait, just two guys.
	Just two guys, two white guys.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And they're called the Fearless Debates, and they carried signs that read, DEI should be illegal.
	Well, if you know anything about Tennessee State, graduation is apparently illegal because Tennessee State has a graduation rate of 23%, sir.
	But anyways, I digress.
	They also had signs that said deport all illegals now, according to the NAACP's post.
	Quote, they attempted to draw students into conversation centered on these messages, which were framed as debate, but functioned as provocation.
	Obviously, they were taking a page out of what Charlie Kirk did on campuses when they had highly publicized tours, which were, I believe he called them Prove Me Wrong, where he had a tent and he'd show up and he'd have thousands of people show up.
	Well, I've seen the videos and there were a number of very hostile, hostile black individuals, negresses, as you might say.
	And they did not take too kindly to these two white guys being there.
	A statement posted to TCU's Facebook page said the group was unaffiliated with the university and they weren't authorized to be there.
	Well, wait, wait, you need a pass?
	Is this South Africa now?
	We got pass laws.
	To go into a black HBCU, you need some sort of passport?
	Well, a lot of times you need to have a permit to be on campus.
	Really?
	On any campus, yes.
	Especially for an event that is going to potentially need.
	Well, but there's no event.
	They just walked on campus during an ordinary school day, right?
	Well, they brought a table, a portable table.
	Oh, they did.
	And they were sitting behind it.
	Oh, sounds very dangerous.
	It's highly dangerous.
	They could have been thrown to the table.
	Yeah.
	A portable table.
	Oh, my gosh.
	They had to grab that portable table and get out because people were walking up and they were stealing items.
	You can see the video.
	They're all on YouTube, the video of the two white guys sitting there, you know, bewildered at the reaction that they caused on this HBCU's campus.
	Social media accounts appeared to belong to the group state.
	It was inspired by Kirk, the TPUSA founder who was shot just a few weeks ago.
	Posts by the group to social media appear to show TSU students shouting at its members, foaming them, and following along as campus police escorted them off campus.
	It got really hostile, actually.
	I implore all of our listeners to track down and watch a couple of the videos.
	Videos also showed people taking signs from the group and flipping them off.
	One video zoomed in on a student holding a screwdriver.
	And I'm not referring to the vodka beverage.
	He actually had a tool in his hand.
	I don't think he was going to help ensure the stability of the portable table.
	It was in a hostile, menacing manner.
	The group also posted a video of them leaving campus by car as security officers escorted them away.
	People inside the car could be heard saying students were hitting the car.
	At one point, the shot panned to a drink cup that was thrown onto the roof.
	The president of TSU, Dwayne Tucker, told the Tennessee and an investigation is underway into how the group gained access to campus.
	Good crap.
	The city plans to host meetings with students in the days to come to discuss what happened.
	Now, the NAACP said it was infuriated and alarmed that groups like the one that visited TSU are targeting historically black colleges and universities with, quote, rhetoric that echoes a long history of exclusion, racism, and systemic oppression, Mr. Taylor.
	Exclusion?
	Who's being excluded from what here?
	Yeah.
	I mean, again, this incident was not an isolated act of political expression.
	The NAACP wrote, it was an intentional effort to antagonize, disrupt, and instill fear in a space created to be safe, affirming, and supporting black students.
	Who had a right to be afraid there?
	Good grief.
	Two white guys, two white guys with a sign and a table.
	That's going to instill fear throughout this campus full of black people.
	just fear, but the NAACP said that they recognize free speech as a constitutional right, but there is a clear and urgent distinction between constructive dialogue and rhetoric deliberately designed to provoke, demean, and endanger the psychological safety of students at HBCUs.
	End quote.
	Endanger the psychological safety.
	You know, Mr. Kersey, I bet.
	I bet they think we are endangering the psychological safety of just about every liberal in the world by having this conversation.
	They would greatly love to see this conversation not take place.
	And they'd also like to not let it be known that Tennessee State University has one of the lowest HBCU graduation rates.
	And as you and I have both talked about many times, the Trump administration has splashed ludicrous amounts of taxpayer dollars to prop up these HBCUs.
	And some of these HBCUs have graduation rates in the single digits for six.
	Single digits?
	But if you say this is the bottom of the league, didn't you say it was 27%?
	23%.
	It's one of the lowest, but it's actually one of the higher, it's one of the middle to higher ranked HBCUs.
	If we wanted to get into, we could do a fun podcast just looking at where all this money that Trump has given to HBCUs since his first term and now his second term.
	Well, well, no, this really is remarkable.
	These two white guys, I would say they were probably a little on the naive side if they thought they were going to have their own little Charlie Kirk style prove me wrong conversation on a black college campus and expecting a spirited but gentlemanly debate based on the First Amendment.
	They was wong.
	They was wong, wong, wong.
	They was really wrong.
	Dear me.
	Well, there you go.
	This doesn't surprise me one bit.
	Well, here's more about black colleges.
	You may have caught the news, Mr. Kersey, because you always do, but classes and events at several historically black colleges and universities were canceled last Friday after a wave of fake threats.
	The false alarms on Thursday were sent to at least eight, well, it sent at least eight institutions into lockdown.
	The schools did not provide information about the nature of the threats made.
	They shuttered college campuses across five states, including Florida, Georgia, and Virginia.
	At Alabama State University, officials suspended all activities, told students to shelter in place, and had the police officers clear every building on campus.
	What a job that would be.
	I guess you go into every room, every nook and cranny of every building and make sure there are no bombs or, I don't know, man-eating zombies.
	At Bethune Cookman University in Florida, classes and events were canceled and students were told to go to their dorm rooms and shelter in place.
	I guess that means watch video games.
	Other campuses, including Spelman College in Atlanta and Florida A ⁇ M, did not get threats, but they locked down anyway.
	Solidarity, okay?
	That's right.
	Hey, you know, those guys are not going to class.
	Hey, we want to stay home too.
	Florida A ⁇ M said it was shifting to online learning and would reschedule a ceremony welcoming the school's new president.
	Representative Hakeem Jeffries, the House minority leader, said the threats were, and I'm quoting him word for word, Mr. Kersey, and this sounds like just the sort of thing Tennessee State University was saying, yet another indication that the explosion of hateful extremism is out of control.
	Black college students are apparently being viciously targeted.
	I have a suspicion, Mr. Kersey.
	I think maybe somebody wanted to get out of an exam.
	But, you know, maybe I'm mean-spirited.
	Representative Yvette D. Clark, the chair of the Congressional Back Caucus, called the threats terroristic and said they were a chilling reminder of the relentless racism and extremism that continues to target and terrorize black communities in this country, just like those two white boys.
	Actually, I think there's actually a far simpler explanation.
	I think they were excited about the new Car T B video that was being released, twerk video.
	So they had to watch parties.
	Cut school, cut class, and go see the Car TV video.
	And Amira Woodruff, a student at Hampton University, told a local station that she thought the threats against HBCUs were being made in response to the killing of Mr. Kirk.
	It definitely does feel like we have a target on our backs right now.
	Now, why would blacks feel like they have targets on their backs after Charliker was assassinated?
	What's the connection?
	As it turns out, the threats were determined not to be credible.
	And I suspect we will never, ever find out who called in those threats.
	Never.
	No, no, no.
	It reminds me of the time, what, a couple years ago?
	Was it about five, six years ago?
	Well, you're thinking of 2022, sir.
	Yes.
	I am on the ball as usual.
	Or unlike as usual.
	Now, on this time, I happen to be on the ball.
	There was a wave of bomb threats that HBCUs closed nearly 20 campuses.
	And the FBI later determined that these threats were linked to a minor.
	A minor.
	And the agency unveiled, well, let's see.
	But they never disclosed the name of this person.
	I got the impression that somehow he was a BIPOC.
	But when he's a minor, you can keep that under wraps.
	My guess is if it had been a white guy, they would have somehow leaked the information one way or another.
	But some guy, not even in the United States, as I recall, was calling in these threats.
	But, oh boy, that caused all manner of horrors.
	But, you know, the FBI, it's got to stay on its toes.
	In 2021, the agency unveiled its newly created position of chief diversity officer to tackle its decades-old diversity problem.
	Anyway, you know, this is the kind of story.
	Here's this huge panic and classes being canceled, campuses getting threats, and other black colleges saying, oh, just out of solidarity, we're going to all stay at home and watch video games, too.
	And my, well, I've told you what my guess is going to be.
	We'll see.
	Now, this was an important story.
	You called it to my attention.
	Very important.
	Alphabet finally admits to having been involved in censorship.
	And in a letter to Congressman Jim Jordan, Alphabet chief counsel wrote the following words.
	Senior Biden administration officials, including White House officials, conducted repeated, sustained outreach to Alphabet and pressed the company regarding certain user-generated content related to COVID pandemic that did not violate its policies.
	But they took that stuff down anyway.
	The letter goes on to say, it is unacceptable and wrong when any government, including the Biden administration, I'd say especially the Biden administration, attempts to dictate how the company moderates content.
	Now, Congressman Jim Jordan was yesterday, the day before, he says, now there'll be no more telling Americans what to believe and not to believe.
	And YouTube announced plans to restate several previously banned channels and discontinue its use of third-party fact-checkers.
	Well, a lot of people took that seriously and they thought, well, okay, if COVID-19 pandemic, the people who were allegedly purveying misinformation can get back on.
	As it turns out, Nick Fuentes and Alex Jones decided, hey, we're going to start up our YouTube channels too.
	And how long did they last?
	About 15 minutes each?
	Oh, maybe five minutes before those were pulled.
	And I also saw where Milo Yiannopoulos, he posted a screenshot that showed that he tried to access his old channel that had been canceled prior to the dates you mentioned.
	And it had been determined he was not eligible to be resurrected from the dead.
	Well, you and I, our podcast was going great guns on YouTube.
	And of course, it was jerked when our videos got jerked.
	And you were considering taking a look, snooping into the back end and seeing if we could resurrect it.
	But are you even going to bother now?
	I am going to bother.
	And it's interesting you brought up Stephen Molyneux earlier because I did look up to see when he was canceled.
	And we were all canceled about the same time.
	That was in June, July of 2020.
	And Molyneux was close to a million followers.
	And he had built up just an incredible stable of really quality interviews and videos.
	And he had taken on the great risk.
	Shouldn't be a risk, by the way, but he had taken on the risk of interviewing you and doing a very good job of distilling race and intelligence and IQ into a very digestible two-hour or less conversation.
	He is a very smart guy, very knowledgeable about many, many things.
	And again, he had put all his eggs into the YouTube basket.
	And when that went south on him, it was a terrible blow financially, psychologically.
	But he's picked himself back up.
	Fortunately, Amran had its website, had its conferences.
	We had other things we were doing so we could get back into action.
	But boy, it was too bad.
	Let's see.
	Well, Mr. Curtis, there is a story that I had been hoping you would be able to tell us that we never had time for.
	And that is the saga of Hannah Dustin and her statue.
	You know, one of the reasons why I think this is such an important story is because it shows what a great country we are and why the whole concept of American Renaissance is such a fundamentally important conversation.
	And this goes back to last year, and this actually goes back to the great racial reckoning that we had to watch, where Confederate statues were deemed relics of the past that needed to come down.
	And there's a statue in Haverhill that might be even more controversial.
	That's Massachusetts, right?
	It is Massachusetts.
	And believe it or not, the very first statue of a female ever erected in the United States was to Hannah Dustin.
	And would you, before we get into the story, would you want to quickly tell the story of Hannah in a 40,000-foot overview?
	Well, my recollection of the story, and I just found about it recently, is that he, she, her, and her, a few other white people were kidnapped by Indians after the Indians had slaughtered most of their family.
	They got carted off, but somehow or other, while they were being held prisoner, Hannah and I believe one other companion managed to kill several Indians and in fact, scalp them.
	Ten of them, wasn't it?
	And carted and stole a canoe and went back down river, back to civilization with the scalps in hand.
	That's my understanding of the story.
	Did I get that right?
	That's correct.
	No, that's correct.
	And then she became basically the, and this was in 1697.
	She escaped her Native American, or no, I'm not calling them that.
	Her Amera Indian captors.
	Redskins.
	This was during a time when American identity was being forged, sir.
	King Philip's War, all of the, you know, the French Indian War, a lot of the stuff that Finmore Cooper wrote about in Last Mohicans.
	I mean, this was a brutal time period to be alive.
	Now, Mr. Kersey, was this during King Philip's War?
	This was after King Philip's War.
	Yeah, I thought King Philip's War was earlier than that.
	It's just kind of setting the stage for just how, I mean, again, as Americans, we take for granted that our pioneering ancestors, you know, they didn't get to just walk outside and go play 18 rounds of golf.
	They had to walk outside to get, you know, water and being, you know, having the fear of being kidnapped by merciless Indian savages.
	Well, you may recall that in a number of Massachusetts community, it was a requirement that when congregants went to church on Sunday, every group have at least one armed man in its company to protect against merciless Indian savages.
	That is correct.
	Well, let's go back to 2024 because this is one of the last stories I can see on this because there are two statues to Hannah Dustin.
	Both are fantastic.
	The first one was put up in 1874.
	Now, we have a lot of female listeners who listen to this, and even I'm a little shocked that it took that long for a statue to go up to a female.
	There were plenty of females we could have honored with the statue, but I can't think of a better person, a better female to have honored with the first statue than Hannah Dustin, because her story became the rallying cry for a lot of what became Manifest Destiny and of just the horror that the pioneers who started to settle further and further into the interior of the country, what they faced on a daily basis in that great fear.
	So this statue at a time when Confederate statues are coming down, at a time when Abe Lincoln's statue in Boston comes down and Ulysses S. Grant and Teddy Roosevelt, a lot of people wanted to push for this statue to come down.
	Now, it's up in Gar Park, and at a city council meeting in October of last year, there were calls for it to come down.
	Quote, let's see here.
	Resident Jonathan Plum said he felt compelled to speak out against generations of willed ignorance for the statue that honors this white woman who escaped her Amera Indian captors, killed them and scalped them.
	And the statue is her forcefully pointing, has a hatchet in her right hand, and in her belt pocket are the 10 Indian scalps.
	I'm not making this up, ladies and gentlemen.
	This is a statue that was erected in 1874.
	Now, is this a terrible thing because she escaped or because she killed them or because she scalped them?
	And why did she scalp them anyway?
	Well, you know, her little baby had been, according to a number of stories, I think actually, I think it was Cotton Mather, the writer, who popularized her story.
	I see.
	And then, of course, there are so many books about the savagery, the merciless Indians on the white settlers that were published in the early 1800s.
	And she's one of the stories that was highlighted.
	But here's what Plum said.
	You have a statue across the street that commemorates the Massachusetts colonial government, which paid money for Indigenous people's scalps.
	It was built in the year 1879 when our current national government was conducting or just finished conducting campaigns of indigenous dispossession and extermination.
	You have to wonder, does this guy wish that these early colonialists had all been scalped themselves and exterminated?
	That's right.
	As this news outlet, WHAV, reported in July of 2024, the council in 2021 came to a compromise on the removal of the 1874 statue where the statue's original hatchet was to be removed and the word savages was to be removed from its inscription.
	Now, Council President Thomas Sullivan said at that time that the statue would remain within the park while allowing the Abenaki, the Abenaki, I believe.
	Abenaki tribe to erect their own memorial.
	Former Mayor James Forentini, not exactly a Mayflower name, created the Native American Commemorative Task Force.
	And the group was tasked with addressing complex questions people have strong feelings about, according to Chair Daniel Spears.
	Maybe you can go to HBCU and they can hash it out there.
	The statue was previously the target of vandalism.
	Back in 2021, it was vandalized with red paint on or right about before Thanksgiving, according to police chief Robert Piston.
	And Plum weighed in on the vandalism.
	Let's hear what this goofy guy says.
	Quote, someone could pour red paint over her head every Columbus Day and every Thanksgiving, and it would never be bloody enough.
	I truly marvel at the lengths that the city has gone in the last few years to not tear down the statue of a woman that murdered children and butchered their bodies.
	What?
	Yeah?
	Yeah?
	Murdered children.
	I thought it was her children who were killed.
	Well, she apparently, apparently, she murdered, in this guy's interpretation, Amera Indian Abenaki children as she was escaping from being either forcibly raped and mutilated.
	Well, we need to get to the bottom of this.
	Find out what's the true saga of Hannah Dustin.
	Well, anyway, we'll see what happens there.
	Now, the Abenaki are going to erect their own monument.
	Maybe they'll have 10 savages with very drastic haircuts.
	Maybe that's the statue that they're going to put up.
	He has one more quote just to put a bow on the story, sir.
	Yes.
	He says this.
	You can't even bear to take down the statue of a murderer of Indigenous children because she, to quote a member of the council, is a symbol of the perseverance and survival.
	Indeed, she is a symbol of the perseverance and survival of a system that dispossessed, that strips all of our words, that robs all of our relations to this land of their fineness, of their richness, end quote.
	Well, what percentage of white people do you think carry that same germ out of an idea in their mind?
	These days, I'd say about 10%, maybe 15%.
	Would have rather the merciless Indian savages have just wiped out the early white colonials.
	That's right.
	We all ought to go.
	Okay, well, I think we have time for one last story.
	It better be quick.
	Better be quick.
	Let's see.
	Ellen Christie, aged 30, faced a flood of hate on Facebook after she advertised her bunko club.
	She posted high all seeking women living in Bedford-Suyvesant, that's part of New York, to join a bunko club.
	She says, bunko is a game of rolling dice.
	Think Yahtzee, no skill required.
	She included a selfie of six white women beaming as they played bunko in her apartment.
	Well, incensed locals accused Christie of playing gentrified C. Low.
	C. Low is apparently a dice game associated with the blacks who lived in that neighborhood or maybe still do in Bedford-Stuyvesant.
	C. Low, I never heard of that.
	Maybe it's some version of craps.
	The unexpected hatred prompted Christie to delete her post, but one local, Janessa Wilson, an African-Americaness, captured it in a screenshot.
	Green shared it to the Bedstead Brooklyn community, prompting a fresh flood of outrage.
	Wilson accused Ellen Christie of colonial violence for having deleted the original post.
	That was colonial violence.
	And writing about Bedsty, another man said, it's been majority black for 50 years, which makes it a black neighborhood now and forever.
	Don't bring your whiteness into this space.
	That's racist.
	That dice game is literally genocide.
	Wow.
	Other people noted that all the women in the photo were white and warned all non-whites, you better stay clear, warning that they could die mysteriously if they tried to join a group of white women.
	Whew, from the photo, they all look like very nice, quite good-looking women.
	Ah, boy, non-whites better stand out.
	They might die.
	She's a midwife at a medical center serving the traditionally black neighborhood of Jamaica, Queens.
	So, white man, white woman, don't bring your white dice games to a neighborhood that used to be black.
	And on that point, ladies and gentlemen, you've been warned.
	You've been warned.
	Don't you dare try.
	Well, it's been a great joy to spend this time with you, as it always is.
	And next week, I may be absent, but you can count on Mr. Kersey to replace me with someone far better than the original.
	So do look forward to this time next week.

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