Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor - White Students Chased Off Black Campus

Sept. 26, 2025 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor

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White Students Chased Off Black Campus

Jared Taylor and Paul Kersey pity the two young whites who were menacingly unwelcome at Tennessee State University. The hosts also discuss ICE shootings, Antifa prosecutions, George Soros, and genocidal dice games.

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	Ladies and gentlemen, esteemed listeners, welcome to Radio Renaissance.
	I'm your host, Jared Taylor.
	Today is September 25th, and with me is my indispensable co-host, the incandescent Paul Kerzy.
	And let's begin with comments.
	One listener writes in to say, Paul Kersey keeps himself anonymous, so I can only imagine what he looks like in real life.
	However, I heard he likes the movie Van Helsing.
	So I imagine him looking like Van Helsing.
	And Uncle Jarrett is the guy in the background who plays the instrumental guitar soundtrack.
	Well, Mr. Kersey, as usual, when it comes to pop culture, I'm a total ignoramus.
	Who is Van Helsing, and I assume he is one of these rugged, handsome movie star guys, and you should be very flattered to think you look like him.
	Wow, that is actually flattering.
	It's a 2004 movie starring Hugh Jackman, obviously Van Helsing, the vampire hunter from Bram Strucker's Dracula.
	I see.
	Well, well, that's who that's that's who you sound like.
	So, congratulations.
	Here's another comment.
	The latest radio renaissance considered a listener's observation and a suggestion about jackhammering the MLK statue on the Washington Mall.
	Here is what Hungary did with the similarly repellent statues that the communists installed.
	And this listener kindly sent me a link to Memento Park, which is not far outside of Budapest.
	There they've got loads of old communist era statues, some of them I think quite heroic looking.
	I kind of like statues of Lenin, really.
	You know, he's looking va he's looking vast and looking brave.
	And uh yes, I think there's an argument to be made that to put them all in one place, and people can wander around and uh admire or despise them however they like, but I again I kind of like the idea of leaving them in place.
	Uh just uh letting people never forget just how cuckoo and crazy this country was.
	Furthermore, the MLK statue that's right on the mall, that's this enormous stone thing.
	It would uh probably be impossible to move any place else.
	Although, I don't know, I guess they got it there.
	Did they have it in pieces and assemble it?
	I don't know.
	But uh yes, that is one plan.
	Make a sort of sculpture garden for all the follies of the past.
	Well, just remember, Mr. Taylor, the glee that so many people had when Monument Avenue in Richmond, Virginia, was piece by piece desecrated.
	And uh I believe they actually cut the Robert E. Lee statue that had been put up in 1890 uh in half uh once it was once it was brought down.
	So they did.
	Though that's that's uh absolutely disgusting.
	At least that would be better than destroying them the way we're doing.
	And uh one Confederate uh wonderful statue after another is being melted down, destroyed, cut in two.
	Oh, it is utterly repellent.
	Here's another comment.
	You were talking rightly about the camp of the saints being republished, and that's a wonderful thing.
	You mentioned the philosopher who translated the recent edition of the book as the best modern philosopher I know.
	Well, I'm not sure I said that.
	What I believe I said is that the translator of the new camp of the saints also translated the works of Renault Camus.
	And he is the best modern philosopher I know.
	I believe that is what I said, but uh who knows my listeners.
	That's exactly what you said, Mr. Taylor.
	Ah, you confirm.
	Well, is that because that publisher they published uh his just incredible uh book, uh the title escapes me right now.
	It is Enemy of the Disaster.
	Yes.
	Oh, that's uh that I think that's such an eloquent, eloquent, inspiring book.
	Camus really is a genius, and he's thought deeply, deeply, deeply about so many important things.
	I think he is uh the best modern philosopher I know of.
	You have these people who claim to be philosophers, and they go into just incredible flights of fancy, but what is the meaning of a word?
	It's just uh quantified and just deep, deep, deep trivia, if you ask me.
	But uh our listener said, I was taken aback when uh, in other words, when I called the translator, or what he thought I called the translator, the great philosopher, he says, Because I found you first on Stefan Molineux's Friedomain Radio, now called Friedomain.
	He is at least a philosopher that was good enough to introduce me to your message.
	Can you give him a call up?
	Well, yes, I certainly can.
	Stefan Molyneux is a very, very smart guy.
	He talks about a whole variety of things.
	And he was kicked off of YouTube where he had gained, what was it, uh at least half a million followers, maybe close to a million, by my recollection, maybe 800,000.
	That was really his complete livelihood.
	That was his claim to fame.
	That was his one important platform.
	And just about the time we were bounced, I think it was about 2020, he was kicked off.
	It was just a terrible blow to him because he had hardly anything else, but he's come back, and he is making his message audible to more people.
	So yes, hooray for Stefan Monanin.
	Now, the first item we'd like to talk about is this very recent ice shooting.
	A shooter opened fire at a U.S. Ice enforcement ice facility in Dallas.
	That was just Wednesday morning, leaving one detainee dead and two others wounded.
	And the gunman was Joshua John, who shot himself.
	Ammunition that he left behind.
	Now this seems to be the latest thing.
	You know, you write things on shell casings.
	And why do you leave why do you leave ammunition behind?
	A shell, you know, the casing is not gonna travel with the bullet.
	I just don't see the point of it, unless uh, well, actually this guy did kill himself, so I suppose this is a way of at least leaving a suicide note, but why have some tiny little message on a shell casing?
	In any case, uh one of the rounds that I saw had the faith had the phrase anti-ice written in blue on it.
	In any case, he fired at an ice building from a rooftop indiscriminately, it is said, including at the van where the window where the victim where the victims were hit.
	He's reported to have used an eight millimeter bolt action rifle.
	I would assume that is an eight-millimeter Mauser cartridge.
	It's pretty much comparable to the 306 round that uh that guy used to kill Charlie Kirk.
	Both are capable of um landing medium-sized to large game at 300 to 400 yards.
	Yep.
	And as it turns out, uh this guy appeared to have been just a few hundred feet away and was firing indiscriminately with a bolt action rifle.
	Sheesh, you'd think you'd use a semi-automatic of some kind if uh he really wanted to do something uh effective.
	He left behind handwritten notes saying he wanted to terrorize ice employees.
	Well, outside the field office, this is a place where a few dozen community members, community members, that's a nice way of saying people who support illegal immigration have been gathering weekly to hold prayer vigilants.
	They've carried signs with messages such as families belong together.
	I agree.
	I agree, on the other side of the border.
	That's where they belong together.
	Now, Jan appears to be a white man, not much known about his politics, but I'm guessing he's not much of a MAGA supporter.
	And uh, Mr. Cursey, you called to my attention, it's just been released the news that he was using IceBlock.
	And this is an app that lets user alert folks nearby to sightings of ice agents in the area.
	It was developed by a guy named Joshua Aaron.
	And he says, what I saw was happening in this country, I wanted to do something to fight back.
	To him, he says, it's reminiscent of Nazi Germany.
	We're literally watching history repeat itself.
	What users do is add a pin on a map showing where they spotted agents, along with notes like what the officers were wearing, what kind of car they were driving, and other users within a five-mile radius will then receive a push notice, alerting them of this dangerous and fearful sighting.
	So this latest shooter no doubt thinks he was stopping people from being hauled off to Auschwitz.
	Good, this is just such crazy stuff.
	Now, uh, Mr. Kerzy, uh, I want to clap myself on the back, and I think you can assure me that I have a right to do so, because did I not say very early on in the Trump administration That people are going to start shrieking about Auschwitz when he started rounding people up.
	You did.
	Did I not say that?
	That was 2017.
	Yes, I did say that.
	Anyway, I think you have some more points to add to this ICE shooting.
	Or have I covered it adequately?
	You had sent me some information.
	Well, it's it's just fascinating to think that it was only a month and a half ago, uh, well, late June when CNN was running public relations for that app, the ICE app that you're talking about.
	Yes.
	And the headline was, quote, I wanted to do something to fight back.
	And if you recall, his girlfriend worked for the Department of Justice, and she was a stakeholder in the app.
	Oh, that's right.
	She was a co-owner.
	Now, didn't she get her walking papers?
	She did.
	She did get her walking papers, yes, sir.
	And it's it's just a fascinating story because you just start to think, and it's you wonder how many people are animated now by that constant discourse and dialogue from the left.
	Um, just the other night, Gavin Newsom went on Steve Colbert's program and just continually talked about the of just how awful mass deportations are and the dehumanizing manner in which the right and the Trump administration is talking about illegals, and then you have the shooting the next morning.
	So it is uh it's so clear to me, these people have no conception of rule of law, no conception of what national boundaries mean, no conception of national sovereignty, and uh I completely ignore all this chatter from people who think every illegal who manages to stagger into the country deserves to stay.
	No, sorry, he doesn't.
	End of story.
	And the only other thing to say about Joshua John is that FBI director Cash Patel has said the suspect had not only searched for the apps in August that tracked the location of ICE agents, but that he had also been researching uh video of conservative activists uh Charlie Kirk's assassination before carrying out the uh pre-dawn attack on September 24th there in Texas.
	And again, sir, we'd be we'd be uh we'd be wrong not to bring up the fact that this wasn't the first attack on ICE in Texas.
	Back in July when anti-Faucell was broken up, and I believe there was an the Asian ringleader was on the run for a while, and it turns out that a number of the people who were going to be participants in this attack, this ambush on ICE agents, they were transgender.
	This is the third one in Texas, or maybe the fourth, it's at least the third that involved firearms, killing.
	Oh, yeah, they're getting pretty frisky, those lefties.
	Now, to move on towards this Kirk investigation.
	Now, of course, we're not.
	Uh, there doesn't seem to be too much dispute about who the killer was, although I saw a posting on UNS.
	He was arguing that uh what's this guy's name?
	Robinson, Robinson could not have been.
	Taylor Robinson?
	Tyler, Tyler Robinson.
	Tyler, not Taylor.
	Come on.
	No.
	Yes.
	That back in 2012 with the uh Arizona shooting, right?
	Oh, yes, Jared Lawford.
	Oh, that was called.
	Let's not get into that.
	Yeah.
	A federal investigation into the assassination has yet to find a link between 22-year-old Tyler Robinson and any left-wing group.
	Every indication so far is that this was one guy who did one really bad thing.
	It may be difficult to charge Robinson at the federal level for Kirk's killing, although there's still an expectation that the feds will try to find something against him.
	The factors that have complicated the effort to bring charges, federal charges, include the fact that Robinson, a Utah resident, did not travel from one state to another.
	Now, it seems to me that in this age of easy crossing of borders, not just state but international.
	The fact that you cross a border suddenly makes you subject to federal jurisdiction.
	I'm not very keen on that, but uh also the fact that Kirk was not a federal officer or an or an elected official.
	Now, again, doesn't seem to me the fact that somebody's an elected official means that you have to try him under any special law.
	That's murder, either way.
	All of this proliferation of laws at the federal level, the state level.
	I don't like it, Mr. Cursey.
	Robinson faces state charges, and the Utah prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.
	Isn't that enough.
	His mother told investigators that over the last year or so Robinson had become more political and started to lean more left.
	There's no federal law that makes acts of domestic terrorism a stand-alone crime, although prosecutors can seek a sentencing enhancement after a conviction if they can persuade a jury that this was domestic terrorism.
	But all by itself, that's not a crime.
	The FBI frequently gets involved in domestic terrorism investigations that ultimately result only in state-level charges.
	Now, Trump and his allies have threatened to come after left-wing advocacy groups that they say as fomenting the anger that led to Kirk's death.
	Stephen Miller, who I consider to be the best white man in the White House.
	He is deputy chief of staff.
	He said something about, maybe for the first time, that I disagree with.
	He said left-wing organizations amounted to a vast domestic terror movement.
	With God as my witness, we're going to use every resource we have, the Department of Justice, Homeland Security, and throughout this government to identify, disrupt, dismantle, and destroy these networks and make America safe again.
	It will happen, and we'll do it in Charlie's name.
	Well, what is this network?
	I don't like the idea of going after people who have ideas.
	And of course, I think it was just announced today or yesterday that a senior Justice Department official has instructed more than half a dozen U.S. attorneys to draft plans to investigate the Open Society Foundation.
	Funded, of course, by George Solos, the billionaire Democrat donor, whom President Chun, President Trump says deserves to be in jail.
	Now, probably everyone listening to us, Mr. Cursey knows who George Soros is, but he began this global grant network decades ago to fund democratic initiatives around the world, particularly in communist and formerly communist countries.
	Now he was from Hungary, and Hungary kicked him out, or kicked his organizations out, deciding that he was a foreign agent.
	They wanted none of his meddling.
	In the 1990s, the organization then expanded its work to the United States.
	And the possible charges that the feds are supposed to look into include racketeering, arson, wire fraud, and material support for terrorism.
	Arson?
	Arson?
	Gee, I don't quite understand that.
	I don't think that the Open Society Foundation is in the business of running around setting fires.
	But Soros backed group.
	Now, this to me one of the worst things this guy's done.
	But it's legal.
	They have given money to help elect no fewer than 75 prosecutors.
	These social justice prosecutors, you and I have discussed them many times, Mr. Curse.
	Oh, yeah.
	And the Soros boys have spent about 40 million dollars doing that.
	And some of their successes include some of the absolute worst, most miserable prosecutors in the entire country, George Gasgon in Los Angeles, Larry Krasner in Philadelphia, we talked about him.
	Alfred Bragg in New York, Kim Fox in Chicago.
	These people are awful.
	They never met a criminal they didn't love.
	They never met a victim that they did not look upon with deep skepticism and suspicion.
	But the Open Society Foundation naturally denounces these accusations as politically motivated attacks on civil society meant to silence speech that the administration disagrees with and to undermine the First Amendment.
	Well, Mr. Kersey, I'm going to get a lot of flack for this, but this time I agree with the Open Society Foundation.
	They can jabber all they want.
	They can make political donations all they want.
	All that is legal, legal, legal.
	They say our activities are peaceful and lawful.
	Organizations should not be attacked for carrying out their mission or expressing their values.
	One of the values they apparently approve of is redistricting in California.
	The Source family spent 10 million dollars, or gave 10 million dollars to Democrats to help them redraw congressional districts as part of a nationwide fight to maintain control of Congress.
	Now, that of course was in retaliation for the five new Republican districts that were added by just by redistricting in Texas.
	But Mr. Kersey, all of this stuff is legal.
	And as you know, I always have an eye out for possible change in administration.
	And if you start saying that the Soros people, they have no right, they should go to they should go to jail, got some sort of RICO thing going.
	If we continue to say the things we do, Mr. Kersey, and somebody says, uh, we will I believe in uh racial separation, goes out, shoots people, says, uh, I got this idea from Jared Taylor and Paul Kerzy.
	Does that mean we are fined?
	We go to jail.
	I do not like any of this, Mr. Kersey.
	Well, I'll tell you the whole RICO conversation.
	You you brought up an interesting point about paying for arson because I'm not making any any suggestion that this open society paid for this, but back in 2023, sir, I've got to bring this up.
	Well, you'd take Georgia.
	I've got a whole section on this.
	Oh, you do.
	Okay, good, good, good.
	Yes, okay, good, good.
	Uh well, uh, why don't you set the scene, though, by saying what they do?
	I'll set the scene for you.
	Atlanta, Georgia, believe it or not, is a hotbed for Antifa.
	There were a number of websites that have been traced to being uh their origin there.
	Uh I think it's it's going down.
	I'm not even sure if they're still around, but these are sites that go after uh doxing that go after anybody who brings up anything.
	Uh well, used to be to the right of Charlie Kirk, but now Charlie Kirk uh at the end of his life came our way.
	And he was, of course, as I said on a prior podcast with you, sir, he was attacked by Media Matters for America and the SPLC quite explicitly in a lot of their material.
	So it turns out that in Atlanta, they were doing this new build for what was commonly known as Cop City.
	And this entity, they called themselves Defend the Atlanta Forest, an environmental group described by the attorney general's office of Georgia as an anarchist, anti-police, and anti-business extremist organization.
	They decided they wanted to occupy it so that it couldn't be built.
	And well, I'll let you take over from what uh what takes place after that.
	Yes, the official name of the site was Atlanta Public Safety Training Center.
	It has officially opened, by the way, despite these wild attempts by these crazy folks, including Unicorn Riot.
	That is definitely an Antifa affiliated organization.
	And uh I remember being astonished by the videos taken when they all got together to try to attack this construction site.
	They're firing firecrackers, they're tearing down fences, they're burning construction equipment.
	This is really pretty wild stuff.
	And as it happens, in September of 2023, Georgia Attorney General, Chris Carr indicted 61 people under the state's RICO law.
	Now, the charges included racketeering, domestic terrorism, arson, money laundering, and other related offenses.
	Now, domestic terrorism.
	Curiously, unlike, unlike the federal statute, I'm sorry, set the in in federal case, there's no such crime as domestic terrorism, as I pointed out, the it can result in a punishment enhancement.
	But Georgia does have a standalone state crime of domestic terrorism.
	This was enacted in 2017 as part of what's called the Georgia Homeland Defense Act.
	At that, Mr. Kerzy was prompted by the 2015 Charleston church shooting by Dylan Roof.
	So, and this law was then expanded to include property crimes intended to change government policy through intimidation or coercion.
	So if the uh state of Georgia is building a police training center, and you go and you destroy fences, you pull down walls, and you burn bulldozers and uh earth movers, then you can be a domestic terrorist.
	In any case, these were the charges.
	Uh racketeering, domestic terrorism, arson, money laundering.
	Now, I don't know what sort of money laundering they would have done.
	Now, this this is this could be a pathway to going after George Soros.
	Correct.
	Yes, if Soros money was somehow being funneled into this kind of violent activity through the back door, then maybe you've got something.
	But in September 24, prosecutors dropped the money laundering counts.
	That's too bad.
	So apparently that is no longer on the books.
	There wasn't.
	Well, but there are no federal charges so far.
	It's all Georgia charges, all state charges.
	Correct.
	Furthermore, on September 9th of this year, just a few days ago, I hadn't heard about it until I started digging into this.
	Fulton County judge Kevin Farmer ruled that the RICO charges against all 61 defendants have to be dismissed.
	That's in that's incredible.
	Well, the reason, this is all very convoluted and legalese and something I don't understand.
	But the state attorney general, according to this judge, didn't have authority under Georgia law to bring the indictments under RICO without the governor's approval.
	Oh my goodness.
	Now now, does that mean the governor would not have approved, or they just didn't bother?
	In any case, Georgia's attorney general is going to appeal the dismissal of the RICO charges.
	Now, uh, as I've said to you before, I'm very suspicious of RICO, especially, and I've talked about this before in this program, after the uh 2017 unfortunate events in Charlottesville, people were charged under uh conspiracy laws, RICO-like conspiracy laws, for being part of a conspiracy that they didn't even know they were part of.
	I mean, these RICO, these RICO charges, I think they're very, very suspicious.
	In any case, there do remain the domestic terrorism and arson charges.
	And I think, you know, people set fire to stuff, arson.
	That's pretty clear.
	So uh the first RICO trial actually took place.
	And the defendant was someone known as Isla King.
	Now, she is one of those they-thems.
	From her photographs taken in court, she appears to be a more or less normal-looking sort of chubby woman.
	Uh, and there's no word on whether she's transitioning.
	I mean, she wears lipstick and earrings, at least in court, but claims to be non-binary.
	Now, uh, Mr. Cursey, is this what we used to call bisexual?
	It's just all so confusing to me.
	I tried to think about a lot of that stuff, sir.
	So well, uh, inquiring minds want to know.
	Uh uh, in any case, her trial began just July of this year, just a couple of months ago, but it ended in a mistrial on weird procedural grounds, not a hung jury.
	So if the RICO dismissal stands, uh then the state cannot retry retry Isla King on RICO charges.
	But it's a good chance of her going to court again on domestic terrorism, arson, conspiracy to commit arson, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
	Now, there was one of the 61 uh defendants in this case that was of particular interest to you and me.
	His name is Thomas Webb Jurgens.
	And he was working as a staff attorney for your and my favorite nonprofit organization, the Southern Poverty Law Center.
	So he was charged with domestic terrorism, RICO, all that good stuff.
	He claims that he was acting as a legal observer, that he was a de that he was wearing identifying gear consistent with legal observation.
	Now I wonder what that would be.
	Rather than participating in the violence.
	But uh, he was released on $5,000 bond.
	He was charged of the RICO statute, and if that goes forward, he could still be tried, but he may face remaining counts, specifically domestic terrorism, arson, depending on what happens.
	So this is all a convoluted, complicated state of affairs, but it does seem to me that the state of Georgia is really going after these people.
	Well, what's also fascinating, sir, is this is low-hanging fruit that the FBI could jump in on.
	Well, It seems to me that there are clear acts of illegality.
	And when you set fire to bulldozers, when you break things down, these people are firing powerful firecrackers at the police guarding the facility.
	There are clearly crimes committed here.
	And on a previous occasion, there was an activist by the name of Manuel Esteban Paiez Terran, known as Tortuguita.
	He was shot and killed by Georgia State Patrol officers on January 18th, 2023, during a police raid on their encampment.
	They were in a forest near where Cops City was being constructed.
	He opened fire at officers with a handgun, and that's never a good idea.
	They returned fire, and that was the end of Tortuguita.
	So one fewer Antifa to worry about.
	But that is the state of play with uh that uh rather dramatic attempt to attack and disrupt the uh cop city.
	Now, the event that I'm talking about, where they burned construction equipment, broke down fences and shot firecrackers, police officers.
	That's just one of many.
	That was the one that stuck in my mind because of the city.
	There was a lot of altercations.
	And like you said, Unicorn Riot was one of the main websites that was an Antifa affiliated website that did a lot back in 2020 of documenting the violence that was breaking out all across the country.
	And he also did a lot of the videos of the Trump protests in 2015-2016 when Antifa squared off with uh just your run-of-the-mill Trump supporters.
	And yes, indeed.
	You know, I won't tease who will probably be the guest uh when you when you won't be able to join us next week, but somebody who lives in Atlanta tells me all the time about this Antifa attack back in 2017 shirts, uh, sir, when there was a LGBT advocate who had a handgun on the campus of Georgia Tech.
	He was shot by police, and then more than 50 masked individuals marched through Georgia Tech, basically forcing Georgia Tech students to shelter in place because they were getting in physical confrontations with the police.
	They they threw a um a flare into a police cruiser and they burned it down.
	And there's been no arrest on that, right?
	There's not been one arrest since then.
	Uh the uh I've heard the story many times, but what happened after uh these assaults on the Atlanta Public Safety Training Center suggests to me that eventually the local authorities had had enough.
	That's the same at the same Georgia uh Bureau of Investigation, uh the local police.
	So I think they've finally gotten some gotten some backbone.
	What's fascinating about the Georgia Tech story, sir, is the guy who was shot, he was a he was the president of the university's Pride Alliance, a huge LGBT advocate.
	And uh again, it just kind of goes and ties sort of eerily ties with a lot of what's going on with the terror attacks that we're seeing.
	Well, it just goes to show you these Antifa types.
	Whenever they take off their masks, you actually look at their botched, freakish faces.
	You know, there is something wrong with these people.
	Almost always you can tell at a glance.
	Once in Portland, especially in Seattle.
	Golly, these people know, they look like uh uh, you know, Mr. Potato Face uh or Potato Head.
	Did you ever have that when you were a child?
	And somebody put the ears on upside down, or somebody put the eyes on one higher than the other, and you know, the nose is crooked.
	These people are just weird.
	That's that uh that are that great silent film, the horror film fan of the opera, when he finally takes his mask off.
	Whoa, but the phantom of the opera.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Well, uh, Mr. Kersey, you were gonna tell us about the terrorist threat at the Kirk Vigil and how MAGA got run off of Tennessee State.
	Boy, things are hopping up.
	Couple couple very interesting stories.
	Yeah, a black guy was arrested after he made social media threats hours before students and community members gathered for vigil, honoring Kirk.
	At the University of Texas at San Antonio, uh Zalin Dunbar, 19 years old.
	He's been charged with making a terroristic threat by intentionally and knowingly threatening to commit violence.
	He suggested in a September 15th Facebook comment that he planned to use his truck to disrupt the vigil, which drew roughly a thousand people later that evening.
	I mean, Mr. Taylor, again, you and I've said we just didn't pay close enough attention to Kirk, but it was astonishing to see the size of some of these vigils and rallies that were held across the country in Kirk's memory.
	I'll say he's far more famous dead than he was alive.
	Yeah.
	The threat surfaced on the Facebook page of the San Antonio Young Republicans, which promoted the campus visual for Kirk.
	Um this is a disgrace, and I can tell you right now, I'm gonna make sure this won't be good nor comforting vigil.
	Y'all watch and see.
	I'm gonna make this movie, me and my truck.
	I'm gonna make this Moody.
	I'm gonna make this a movie.
	I'm gonna make this a movie.
	Me on my truck.
	Uh Dunbar allegedly wrote per the affidavit cited by the San Antonio Express news.
	So I guess he was gonna do like um I can't remember what city that was.
	Was it Wakeisha?
	Waukeshaw.
	Waukeshaw, Waukesha, Wisconsin, when the they had that Christmas parade and the black guy ran over all the white people back in.
	Well, just remember I kind of forgot about it, but on New Year's Day this year, there was that uh Muzzy who put a ISIS flag on the back of his truck and he's mowed down Bourbon Street.
	But I think uh did what's this guy, was this black guy actually somewhat more explicit about his plan to do?
	What the comments were flagged by the Southwest Texas Fusion Center, an interagency intelligence hub run by the San Antonio police and relayed to the University of Texas San Antonio Police Department.
	Uh he admitted to posting the Facebook comments and acknowledged they could be seen as threatening, but he insisted he was being dumb and clowning around.
	He allegedly told officers, sir, even if I'm 19 years old, that doesn't mean I won't still act like a kid.
	He's talking his ways out of it.
	Asked if the threats were worse criminal charges, he replied, if that's what it takes, I did what I did, and I can take the consequences, according to the affidavit.
	So he's currently in uh Bexar County jail uh on a on Bond.
	That's pronounced Behar County.
	Well, I appreciate you to let me know that.
	I uh I'm as far a text him.
	As far as Waukeshaw is concerned, at first I was pronouncing Waqueesha, and somebody pointed out no no, this is not a first name for one of our African American fellow citizens.
	It's Waukeshaw, not Wakisha.
	So so I was corrected.
	I was pronouncing it incorrectly.
	Okay.
	Uh yeah.
	So he was basically going to pull a uh a Christmas market in Germany, a uh New Year's celebration in on Bourbon Street, uh just mowed on people with his with his truck.
	Well, so he is uh cooling his heels in the Behar County jail.
	So yes, but but uh some of his friends in Nashville have the exact opposite.
	Uh they actually went out and confronted a group wearing MAGA hats carrying signs with what uh has been called inflammatory messages, who were removed from the HBCU, the historically black college uh university there, Tennessee State University in Nashville.
	This uh this these two white guys, they appeared on campus on September 23rd, according to a Facebook post from the Nashville chapter, the NAACP.
	Wait, just two guys.
	Just two guys, two white guys.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and and and they're called the Fearless Debates, and they carried signs that read, DEI should be illegal.
	Well, if you know anything about Tennessee State graduation is apparently illegal because Tennessee State has a graduation rate of 23%, sir.
	But anyways, I digress.
	Yeah.
	They also had signs that said deport all illegals now, according to the NAACP's post.
	Quote They attempted to draw all students into conversation centered on these messages, which were framed as debate, but functioned as provocation.
	Obviously, they were taking a page out of what Charlie Kirk did on campuses when they had highly publicized tours, which were I believe he called him Prove Me Wrong, where he had a tent and he'd show up and he'd and he'd have thousands of people show up.
	Well, I've seen the videos, and there were a number of very hostile, hostile uh black individuals, negroes, negresses, as you might say.
	Um, and they were they did Not take too kindly to these two white guys being there.
	A statement posted to TCU's Facebook page said the group was unaffiliated with the university and they weren't authorized to be there.
	Well, wait, wait, you you need a pass?
	Is this uh South Africa now?
	We got pass laws uh to go into a black HBCU, you need uh some sort of passport.
	Well, you a lot of times you need to have a permit to be on campus.
	Um on any campus, yes, especially for an event that especially for an event that is going to potentially need to be.
	Well, well, but there's no event.
	They just walked on campus during an ordinary school ordinary school day, right?
	Well, they they they brought a table, a portable table.
	Oh, they did.
	And they were sitting behind it.
	And oh sounds very dangerous.
	Yeah, it's highly dangerous.
	They could have been thrown to the table.
	Yeah.
	Portable table.
	Oh my gosh.
	They had to grab that portable table and get out because people were walking up and they were stealing items.
	You can see the video.
	They're all on YouTube, the video of the two white guys sitting there, you know, bewildered at the uh reaction that they caused on this HBCU's campus.
	Umcial media accounts appeared to belong to the group state, it was inspired by Kirk, the TP USA founder who was uh shot uh just a few weeks ago.
	Post by the group to social media appear to show TSU students shouting at its members.
	Not bad.
	Filming them and following along as campus police escorted them off campus.
	It it got really hostile, actually.
	Um I I implore all of our listeners to track down and watch a couple of the videos.
	Um videos also showed people taking signs from the group and flipping them off.
	One video zoomed in on a student holding a screwdriver.
	Uh, and I'm not referring to the vodka beverage.
	He actually had a tool in his hand.
	Uh I don't think he was gonna help ensure the stability of the portable table.
	It was in a hostile, menacing manner.
	The group also posted a video of them leaving campus by car as security officers escorted them away.
	People inside the car could be heard saying students were hitting the car.
	At one point, the shot panned to a drink cup that was thrown onto the roof.
	The end of the uh president of TSU, Dwayne Tucker told the Tennessean an investigation is underway into how the group gained access to campus.
	Good crazy city plans to host meetings with students in the days to come to discuss what happened.
	Now the NAACP said it was infuriated and alarmed that groups like the one that visited TSU are targeting historically black college and universities with quote rhetoric that echoes a long history of exclusion, racism, and systemic oppression, Mr. Taylor.
	Exclusion?
	Who's being excluded from what here?
	Yeah.
	No, I mean again, it's it's uh this incident was not an isolated act of political expression.
	The NAACP uh wrote.
	It was an intentional effort to antagonize, disrupt, and instill fear in a space created to be safe, affirming and supporting black students.
	Who had a right to be afraid there?
	Good grief.
	Two white guys, two white guys with a sign at a table.
	That's gonna instill fear throughout this campus full of black people.
	Not just fear, but the end up the NAACP said that they recognize free speech as a constitutional right, but there is a clear and urgent distinction between constructive dialogue and rhetoric deliberately designed to provoke, demean, and endanger the psychological safety of students at HBCU's.
	End quote.
	Endanger the psychological safety.
	You know, you know, uh Mr. Cursey, I bet.
	I bet they think we are endangering the psychological safety of just about every liberal in the world by having this conversation.
	They would uh they would greatly love to see this conversation not take place, and they'd also like to not uh let it be known that Tennessee State University has one of the lowest HBCU graduation rates.
	Uh and as you and I have both talked about many times, the Trump administration has splashed ludicrous amounts of taxpayer dollars to prop up these HBCUs and some of these HBCUs have graduation rates in the single digits for six.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Single digits?
	But if you say this is the bottom of the league, didn't you say it was 27%?
	Uh 23%.
	It it's one of the lowest, but it's actually one of the higher, it's one of the middle to higher ranked HBCUs.
	If we wanted to get into, we could do a fun podcast, just looking at where all this money that that uh Trump has given to HBCU since his first term and now his second term.
	So well, well.
	No, this this really is remarkable.
	I uh these two white guys, uh, I would say they were probably a little on the naive side if they thought they were going to have their own little Charlie Kirk style prove me wrong conversation on a black college campus and uh expecting a spirited but uh gentlemanly debate uh based on the First Amendment.
	Day was wrong.
	Day was wong wong wong.
	It was they was really wrong.
	Oof dear me well there you go.
	This doesn't surprise me one bit.
	Well here's more about black colleges.
	You may have caught the news, Mr. Cursey, because you always do, but classes and events at several historically black colleges and universities were canceled last Friday after a wave of fake threats the false alarms on Thursday was sent to at least eight well it sent at least eight institutions into lockdown.
	The schools did not provide information about the nature of the threats made.
	They shuttered college campuses across five states including Florida, Georgia and Virginia at Alabama State University, officials suspended all activities, told students to shelter in place and had the police officers clear every building on campus.
	What a job that would be I guess that you go into every room, every nook and cranny of every building and make sure there are no bombs or I don't know man eating zombies at Bethune Cookman University in Florida classes and events were canceled and students were told to go to their dorm rooms and shelter in place.
	I guess that means watch video games.
	Other campuses including Spellman College in Atlanta and Florida AM did not get threats but they locked down anyway.
	In Solidarity, okay that's right hey you know those guys are not going to class hey we want to stay home too Florida AM said it was shifting to online learning and would reschedule a ceremony welcoming the school's new president representative Hakeem Jeffries the House minority leader said the threats were and I'm quoting him word for word Mr. Kersey and this sounds like just the sort of thing Tennessee State University was
	saying yet another indication that the explosion of hateful extremism is out of control.
	Black cobat students are apparently being viciously targeted I have a suspicion, Mr. Kersey I think maybe somebody wanted to get out of an exam.
	But you know maybe I'm mean spirited representative Yvette D. Clark, the chair of the Congression back caucus called the threats terroristic and said they were a chilling reminder of the relentless racism and extremism that continues to target and terrorize black communities in this country just like those two white boys.
	I think actually I think there's actually a far simpler explanation I think they were excited about the new Cardi B video that was being released twerk video.
	So they had to have watch parties.
	Cut school cut class and go see the Cardi B video.
	And Amira Woodruff a student at Hampton University told a local station that she thought the threats against HBCUs were being in response being made in response to the killing of Mr Kirk it definitely does feel like we have a target on our backs right now.
	Now why would blacks feel like they have targets on their backs after Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
	What's the connection?
	As it turns out the threats were determined not to be credible and I suspect we will never ever find out who called in those threats never no it reminds me of the time what a couple years ago was it about five,
	six years ago you're thinking of 2022 I am on the ball as usual unlike as usual now on this time I happen to be on the ball there was a wave of bomb threats at HBCU's closed nearly 20 campuses and the FBI later determined that these threats were linked to a minor a minor and the agency unveiled well let's see uh but they never disclosed the name of this person.
	I got the impression that somehow he was a BIPOC but when he's a minor you can keep that under wraps.
	My guess is if it had been a white guy they would somehow leaked the information one way or another.
	But some guy, not even in the United States, as I recall, was calling in these threats.
	But oh boy, that caused all manner of horrors.
	But, you know, the FBI, it's got to stay on its toes.
	In 2021, the agency unveiled its newly created position of chief diversity officer to tackle its decades-old diversity problem.
	Anyway, you know, uh, this is the kind of story.
	Here's this huge panic and uh classes, classes being canceled, campuses getting threats, and other black colleges saying, oh, just out of solidarity, uh, where we're gonna, we're gonna all stay at home and watch video games too.
	And uh I uh my well, I've guessed told you what my guess is gonna be.
	We'll see.
	Now, uh, this was an important story.
	You called it to my attention, very important.
	Uh, Alphabet finally admits to having been involved in censorship.
	And in a letter to Congressman Jim Jordan, Alphabet Chief Counsel wrote the following words.
	Senior Biden administration officials, including White House officials, conducted repeated, sustained outreach to Alphabet and pressed the company regarding certain user-generated content, but into the COVID pandemic that did not violate its policies.
	But they took that stuff down anyway.
	The letter goes on to say it is unacceptable and wrong when any government, including the Biden administration, I'd say especially the Biden administration, attempts to dictate how the company moderates content.
	Now, uh Congressman Jim Jordan was it yet yesterday yesterday or the day before?
	He says, now there'll be no more telling Americans what to believe and not to believe.
	And YouTube announced plans to restate several previously banned channels and discontinue its use of third-party fact checkers.
	Well, a lot of people took that seriously, and they thought, well, okay, if COVID-19 pandemic, the people who were allegedly purveying misinformation can get back on.
	As it turns out, uh Nick Fuentes and Alex Jones decided, hey, we're gonna start up our YouTube channels too.
	And what they last, how long did they last?
	About 15 minutes each.
	Oh, maybe maybe five minutes before the uh before that those were pulled.
	And I also saw where uh Milo uh Yenopoulos, he posted a screenshot that showed that he tried to access his old channel that had been canceled prior to the dates you mentioned, and it had been determined he was not eligible to uh be resurrected from the dead.
	Well, uh, you and I, our podcast was going great guns on YouTube.
	And of course, it was jerked when our videos got jerked.
	And uh you were considering uh taking a look, snooping into the back end and seeing if we could resurrect it.
	But uh, are you even gonna bother now?
	I I am gonna bother.
	Uh it's it's interesting you brought up Stefan Molyneux earlier because I did look up to see when he was canceled.
	And we were all canceled about the same time.
	That was in June, July of 20 of 2020.
	Yes.
	And Molyneux was close to a million followers, and he had a lot of people.
	Yeah, that was my record.
	He had built up just an incredible stable of really quality interviews and videos.
	And he had taken on the great risk.
	Shouldn't be a risk, by the way, but he had taken on the risk of interviewing you and doing a very good job of distilling race and intelligence and IQ and to a very digestible uh two-hour or less conversation.
	He is a very smart guy, very knowledgeable about many, many things.
	And again, he had put all his eggs into the YouTube basket.
	And when that went south on him, it was a terrible blow financially, psychologically.
	But he's picked himself back up.
	Fortunately, Amran had its website, had uh yeah, uh, uh, had its conferences, uh, we had other things we were doing, uh, so we could get back into action.
	But boy, it was too bad.
	Let's see.
	Uh, well, uh, Mr. Curtis, there is a story that I had been hoping you would be able to tell us that we never had time for, and that is the saga of Hannah Dustin and her statue.
	You know, one of the reasons why I think this is such an important story is because it shows what a great country we we are and why the whole concept of American Renaissance is such a fundamentally important conversation.
	And uh this goes back to last year, and this actually goes back to the great racial reckoning that we had to watch, where Confederate statues were deemed relics of the past that needed to come down, and there's a statue in Haverhill that might be even more controversial.
	That's Massachusetts, right?
	It is Massachusetts.
	And believe it or not, the very first statue of a female ever erected in the United States was two, Hannah Dustin.
	And would you, before we get in the story, would you want to quickly tell the story of uh of Hannah in a 40,000-foot overview?
	Well, my recollection of the story, and I just found about it recently, is that he uh she, her and her uh a few other white people were kidnapped by Indians after the Indians had slaughtered uh most of their family.
	They got carted off, but somehow or other, uh, while they were being held prisoner, Hannah and I believe one other uh companion managed to kill several Indians and in fact scalped them, ten of them, wasn't it?
	And uh carted and stole a canoe and went back down Ruver back to civilization with the scalps in hand.
	That that's my understanding of the story.
	Did I get that right?
	Uh that's correct.
	No, that's that's correct.
	And then she became basically the, and this was in 1697.
	She escaped her Native American, or no, I'm not calling them that her American captors.
	Redskins, redskins.
	Redskins.
	This was during a time when American identity was being forged, sir.
	Uh King Phillips War, all of the you know, the the French Indian War, uh, a lot of the stuff that um Fitomore Cooper wrote about in uh Last Mohicans.
	I mean, this was a brutal time period to be alive.
	Now, Mr. Cursey, was this during King Philip's War?
	This was after King Philip's War.
	Yeah, I thought I thought King Philip's war was earlier than that.
	It's just kind of setting the stage for just how uh I mean, again, as Americans, we take for granted that our pioneering ancestors, you know, they didn't get to just walk outside and go play 18 rounds of golf.
	They had to walk outside to get, you know, water and being, you know, having the fear of being kidnapped by merciless Indian savages.
	Well, you may recall that in a number of Massachusetts community, it was a requirement that when congregants went to church on Sunday, every group have at least one armed man in its company to protect against merciless Indian savages.
	That is correct.
	Well, let's go back to 2024, because this is one of the last stories I can see on this because there are two statues to Hannah Hannah Dustin.
	Um both are fantastic.
	The first one was put up in 1874.
	Now, we have a lot of female listeners who listen to this, and even I'm a little shocked that it took that long for a statue to go up to a female.
	There were plenty of females we could have we could have honored uh with the statue, but I I can't think of a better person, a better female to have honored with the first statue than Hannah Dustin because her story became uh the rallying cry for a lot of man what became Manifest Destiny and of just the horror that the that the pioneers who started to settle further and further into the interior of the country, what they faced on a daily basis and that great fear.
	Um this statue at a time when Confederate statues are coming down at a time when Abe Lincoln statue in Boston comes down and Ulysses S. Grant and Teddy Roosevelt, a lot of people wanted to push for the for this statue to come down.
	Now it's up in Gar Park, and at a city council meeting in October of last year, there were calls for it to come down.
	Uh quote.
	Let's see here.
	Resident Jonathan Plum said he felt compelled to speak out against generations of willed ignorance for the statue that honors this white woman who escaped her American Indian captors killed them and scalped them.
	And the statue is her forcefully pointing, has a hatchet in her right hand, and in her in her belt pocket are the 10 Indian scalps.
	I'm not making this up, ladies and gentlemen.
	This is this is a statue that was erected in 1874.
	Now, is this a terrible thing because she escaped or because she killed them?
	Or because she scalped them?
	And why did she scalp them anyway?
	Well, you know, her little baby had been had been, according to a number of stories.
	I think actually, I think it was Cotton Mather, the writer who popularized her story.
	I see.
	Um, and then of course, there are so many books about the savagery, the merciless Indians who on on the white settlers uh that were published in the early 1800s.
	Um she's one of the stories that was highlighted.
	But uh, here's what uh here's what Plum said.
	You have a statue across the street that commemorates the Massachusetts colonial government, which paid money for Indian for indigenous people's scalps.
	It was built in the year 1879 when our current national government was conducting or just finished conducting campaigns of indigenous dispossession and extermination.
	You have to wonder, does this guy does this guy wish that these early old or early colonialists had all been, you know, scalping themselves and exterminated?
	That's right.
	Um as this news outlet WHAV reported uh in July of 2024, the council in 2021 came to a compromise on the removal of the 1874 statue, where the statue's original hatchet was to be removed and the word savages was to be removed from its inscription.
	Now council president Thomas Sullivan said at that time that the statue would remain within the park while allowing the Abenaki, uh the Abenaki Abenaki, I believe.
	Abenaki tribe to erect their own memorial.
	Former mayor James Ford Forentini, uh, not exactly a Mayflower name, created then created the Native American commemorative task force.
	And the group was tasked with addressing complex questions people have strong feelings about, according to Chair Daniel Spears.
	Maybe you can go to HBCU and they can hash it out there.
	Um the statue was previously the target of vandalism.
	Back in 2021, it was vandalized with red paint on or right about before Thanksgiving, according to police chief Robert Piston.
	And uh Plum weighed in on the vandalism.
	Let's let's let's hear what this uh goofy guy says.
	Quote someone could pour red paint over her head every Columbus Day and every Thanksgiving, and it would never be bloody enough.
	I marvel I truly marvel at the links that the city has gone in the last few years to not tear down the statue of a woman that murdered children and butchered their bodies.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Murdered children.
	Yeah, I thought it was her children who were killed.
	Well, she apparently, apparently, she murdered in this guy's interpretation, American Abenaki children as she was escaping from being either forcibly raped and mutilated as as well.
	We need to get to the bottom of this.
	Find out uh what's what's the what's the true the true saga of Hannah Dustin?
	Well, anyway, uh we'll see what happens there.
	Now, the Abenaki are gonna erect their own monument.
	Maybe they'll have ten savages with uh very drastic haircuts.
	Maybe that's the statue that uh that they're going to put up.
	He has one more quote just to put a bow on the story, sir.
	Yes.
	He says this.
	You can't even bear to take down the statue of a murderer of indigenous children because she, to quote, a member of the council, is a symbol of the perseverance and survival.
	Indeed, she is a symbol of the perseverance and survival of a system that dispossessed, that strips all of our words, that robs all of our relations to this land of their fineness, of their richness, end quote.
	Well, what's the one?
	What percentage of white people do you think carry that same germ of an idea in their mind?
	Uh, these days, uh, I'd say about 10%, maybe 15%.
	Would have rather the merciless Indian savages have just wiped out the early white colonials.
	That's right.
	We all ought to go.
	Okay.
	Well, I think we have time for one last story.
	It better be quick.
	Better be quick.
	Let's see.
	Ellen Christie, aged 30, faced a flood of hate on Facebook after she advertised her Bunko Club.
	She posted, high all seeking women living in Bedford Stuyvesant, that's part of New York, to join a Bunko Club.
	She says Bunko is a game of rolling dice.
	Thank Yahtzee, no skill required.
	She included selfie of six white women beaming as they played Bunko in her apartment.
	Well, incensed locals accused Christie of playing gentrified C low.
	C-Low was apparently a dice game associated with the blacks who lived in that neighborhood, or maybe still do in Bedford Stuyvesant.
	C-Low, I'd never heard of that.
	Maybe it's some version of craps.
	The unexpected hatred prompted Christie to delete her post, but one local, Janessa Wilson, an African-Americaness, captured it in a screenshot.
	She re-shared it to the Bed Stuy Brooklyn community, prompting a fresh flood of outrage.
	Wilson accused Ellen Christie of colonial violence for having deleted the original post.
	That was colonial violence.
	And writing about Bed Sti, another man said it's been majority black for 50 years, which makes it a black neighborhood now and forever.
	Don't bring your whiteness into this space.
	That's racist.
	That dice game is literally genocide.
	Wow.
	Other people noted that all the women in the photo were white and warned all non-whites, you better stay clear.
	Warning that they could die mysteriously if they tried to join a group of white women.
	Phew, from the photo, they all look like very nice, quite good looking women.
	But ah boy, non whites better stand, they might die.
	She's a midwife at a medical center serving the traditionally black neighborhood of Jamaica Queen.
	So white man, white woman, don't bring your white dice games to a neighborhood that used to be black.
	And on that point, ladies and gentlemen, you've been warned.
	You've been warned.
	Don't you dare try.
	Well, it's been a great joy to spend this time with you as it always is.
	And next week I may be absent.
	But you can count on Mr. Cursey to replace me with someone far better than the original.
	So do look forward to this time next week.

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