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April 18, 2025 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor

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Trump vs. Harvard

Jared Taylor and Paul Kersey see a fierce battle ahead as Trump tries to revamp elite universities. Taylor and Kersey also discuss CRT, rebranding DEI, and the giant Muslim community being planned for Plano, Texas. Thumbnail credit: Joseph Williams, CC BY 2.0 , via Wikimedia Commons

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	Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to Radio Renaissance.
	I'm Jared Taylor with American Renaissance, and with me is my indispensable co-host, none other than Paul Kersey.
	And today is April 17th, although this podcast will probably be posted on the 18th due to reasons that we won't go into.
	And it is still 2025.
	Honor Dominic.
	And as we always do, we will begin with comments from listeners.
	You and I, Mr. Kersey, were wondering why it was that ICE wanted information on illegal immigrants, what kind of illegal immigrant information the IRS would have.
	Because we had a story about all of these virtue-signaling IRS people resigning because they refused to hand over this intimate and critical information, and we wondered what it could possibly be.
	Why would the IRS know things that ICE doesn't?
	Well, a commenter writes in to say, immigration status is tracked by Social Security Administration, so immigration status can be known through referencing Social Security numbers.
	Some non-citizens who are not allowed to work are given individual taxpayer ID numbers from the IRS, and this is part of the data IRS might be in a position to turn over to ICE if asked politely.
	And our listener goes on to say, some illegals get good at hiding for a good reason, because through the earned income tax credit, the child tax credit, and the additional child tax credit, and the American Opportunity Tax Credit,
	it is possible to get refunds from the IRS that exceed taxes paid, and these are all available to illegals who are on parole status.
	Well, it all sounds very complicated to me, but people are therefore very motivated to give their correct address information to the IRS so as to get these refunds.
	If ICE gets this information, they can target those people who are illegal and who are milking the systems because they have their correct addresses.
	Well, this sounds mighty deep to me, and I assume our listener is well informed.
	Here's another comment.
	Have you guys ever looked into the 1950s Mouse City Experiments of John Calhoun, where the artificially induced externality of superabundance and population density created civilizational decay, gender bending,
	and other societal ills reminiscent of the late Roman Empire?
	There is new research showing that hyperabundance Well,
	of evolving.
	And if abundance is acquired, if it lasts too long, the genetic code has wired into it language that causes the offending society to implode so that evolutionary progress may proceed.
	Well,
	I'm not all that convinced of that.
	Mr. Kersey, you're familiar with Calhoun's mice, right?
	Mousetopia? I am, and I definitely researched it even more when we got that very thoughtful comment from our listener.
	Yes, the thing about it is, I don't believe we are crowded to that state.
	At least not in...
	The Japanese, for example, and in some parts of China, they're even more crowded than we are.
	But they're not degenerating in the way that the mice did in Calhoun's Moustopia.
	So I don't think crowding per se is it.
	Now, the fact of abundance, the fact of not having to depend on families, for example, individual response, well, sort of individual atomization.
	I think that contributes to our degeneracy.
	When you really had to count on your children, when children had to count on their parents, and there were three generations living under the same roof, there was a kind of social solidarity.
	People depended on their neighbors.
	All of this, I think, adds to a healthy, commonly oriented society.
	And we are just too atomized and individual.
	But once having looked into Calhoun's mice, what did you conclude in terms of how it might apply to our current situation today, Mr.
	Again, very generalized.
	I don't think we've had a big enough case study yet to really see in the United States, although having lived in a city...
	For a number of years, that did have quite a lot of homosexuals who moved there because of that.
	That kind of taints the subject, wouldn't you think?
	Right, right.
	That confounds, yes.
	Exactly. If people are attracted to it because it's one of these areas where the price of property has depleted so significantly, that pioneers...
	childless pioneers don't have to work out sending their kids to school so they're able to gobble up all this property.
	I'm referring to Atlanta.
	Yeah, although I will say this.
	I did, you know, like you said.
	The Japanese are not degenerated, but I did read a very sad statistic that I believe the population of Japan has decreased close to a million from this time last year.
	The people just not having children.
	Not having children.
	But in the case of Calhoun's mice, males started mounting each other.
	They started degenerating in all kinds of horrible ways in ways that the Japanese are not.
	But they're just not having children.
	I think not having children is a part of wealth.
	When your life is easy, also the availability of contraception.
	That's an important aspect of it, too.
	The pill, all of these easy ways to prevent childbirth, these are all very tough questions.
	But I don't think that population density per se, which, as I recall, was the only real factor.
	There was enough abundance so the population increased to the point where the society just went crazy.
	I don't think we're there yet.
	So, that's my short, not very well-informed answer.
	So, let's see.
	Another comment.
	More and more, I've come to agree with you that blacks and whites must go their separate ways.
	What is to be done with all the black and white biracial people?
	And what about their parents and their grandparents who wish to remain on one side or the other?
	Well, obviously, those are very difficult questions.
	I think those people will have to allow for a certain amount of inclusion of people of that kind.
	Now, biracial people, people who are married to someone of another race, they may decide to go live in the non-white community.
	I don't know.
	Those are hard questions.
	We are not at the point of having to make those decisions now, but it's not as though, Mr. Kersey, if there is a small percentage of black or biracial people living in a white area, a certain number of Asians, it's not as though that is going to destroy our
	society.
	I think we can't make the perfect the enemy of the good.
	We will have to work our way around a certain kind of mixture, whether we want it or not.
	But gradually, the number of such people would be likely to decrease.
	Do you have any words of wisdom on that subject?
	Again, I think we'll just have to work these things out.
	You can't make hard and fast rules.
	My words of wisdom on the subject, let's get to that point where we can have that conversation afterwards.
	Yes, that's right.
	That's the most important thing.
	Yes, we will figure it out.
	We will figure it out.
	Now, this is an important thing that's going on now.
	V. Harvard.
	Now, I don't suppose the actual court case will take that moniker, but the Trump administration's Joint Antisemitism Task Force sent a demand letter to Harvard president.
	Of course, it was much more sweeping and detailed than the task force's March 13 demand letter to Columbia University.
	But the letter that went to Harvard says this.
	In order to preserve its federal funding, Harvard must immediately implement merit hiring, strictly merit, run plagiarism tests on existing and prospective faculty.
	This reminds, of course, of Claudine Gay, who had to step down as the first black lady president of Harvard because she was found to be a plagiarist, as well as apparently being insufficiently anti-antisemitic.
	A plagiarism test on existing and prospective faculty and submit to an audit.
	Of university hiring practices.
	These are pretty intrusive things.
	Adopt merit-based admissions.
	Submit admissions day to the government, certifying that the university no longer uses racial preferences.
	Reform international student admissions to ensure that Harvard does not accept students that are hostile to American values and institutions.
	That's pretty broad.
	I'm not quite sure how you're going to do that.
	Then audit each department or teaching unit for viewpoint diversity.
	If a department is found deficient in viewpoint diversity, the university must hire a critical mass.
	This is the language from the directive.
	A critical mass of intellectually diverse faculty for that department.
	And if it won't do that, then control of the department must be transferred to some sort of external overseer.
	Pretty intrusive stuff, Mr. Kersey.
	Now, I'm a little bit skeptical about just how much anti-Semitic harassment has been going on at Harvard.
	There's been all this talk about all of the demonstrations against the way Israel responded.
	To the attack by Hamas.
	And some of it's been pretty fierce.
	And some of it has certainly been anti-Israeli, and perhaps some of it's been anti-Jewish.
	But to make that the point of departure for all of these intrusive demands is, I'm not sure that this is really within the remit of the anti-antisemitism committee.
	Another thing they have to do is shutter all DEI programs and offices.
	And end support and faculty recognition of five student groups that they say engaged in anti-Semitic activity ever since October 7, 2023, which is when the Hamas attack occurred.
	Now, Harvard has very famously said, no way, we're not going to do that.
	And the Trump administration, I can't remember what the actual dollar figure was.
	I believe they said there was $3 billion that they were going to withhold unless Trump
	Harvard did as they were told.
	Now, this was an article in the American Enterprise Institute magazine by Heather McDonald, who always has, I think, a pretty well-considered view on these things.
	She says, just because something is warranted doesn't mean it's necessarily lawful under current standards.
	She's talking about this demand letter.
	It's likely that a court...
	Where this dispute will inevitably land will agree with Harvard's analysis.
	The Trump administration is fighting all policies that privilege certain races over others or women over men.
	That kind of preferential treatment does violate federal protections under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and the administration is well within its rights to demand data on admissions and hiring to ensure that Harvard is not discriminating on race or sex.
	However, and she goes on, I think this is a reasonable point.
	If the administration is demanding oversight of faculty hiring to ensure viewpoint diversity, the legal basis for that is very unclear.
	How are you going to define that?
	Also, students or faculty that are brought in explicitly to enhance viewpoint diversity will carry the burden of suspicion.
	That they were admitted or hired under a lower standard just because they were going to bring in viewpoint diversity.
	Well, this suspicion of a lower standard certainly hasn't bothered all of these BIPOCs that Harvard and all the rest of these fancy universities have hired just to get diversity.
	Now she goes on to say, no university is entitled to government largesse.
	The question is, once that funding has been granted, what are the processes required for canceling it?
	What are the substantive grounds?
	What are the offenses that have to be proven in order to cancel it?
	Now, as you'll recall, Mr. Kersey, the administration freeze on $400 million in funding to Columbia University raised the same questions, but the demands on Columbia were far more narrow, and Columbia agreed to those demands.
	They did.
	Yes, but then now the Trump administration is adding more conditions.
	For releasing the $400 million.
	So that seems a little bit dodgy to me.
	If they said, do you get $400 million if we do this?
	And Columbia says, yes, we're going to do this.
	Then you shouldn't be adding more obstacles.
	Now, Heather MacDonald was on to say, taxpayers are getting nowhere near their money's worth.
	I'm sure that's true.
	In many cases, they are subsidizing institutions that actively undermine Western civilization.
	100% true.
	But she goes on to say the Trump administration could have proceeded with greater subtlety rather than effectively hanging out a flashing red SUE ME sign.
	It could have allowed grants to expire quietly, declined to renew them, or penalized universities specifically for racial discrimination, which has, of course, been rampant and widespread.
	Instead, the Trump administration has managed to elevate Harvard University into the incongruous role of a noble David standing up to the government's Goliath.
	I think there's probably a lot of truth to that.
	And she concludes, is the administration more interested in maximal disruption or in achieving long-term goals?
	The two aims may not be compatible.
	Now, just by coincidence, The day that this demand letter from the administration went out to Harvard, I was talking to some students from a different elite university, Ivy League university, and their attitude was,
	whatever it takes...
	To cure the rot in these terrible institutions, that is just fine with them.
	If there are overseers that are coming in, making sure that they hire the right people, that they let people in for the right reasons rather than the wrong reasons, that's okay.
	I, you know, as I think about this, Mr. Curzi, I tend to believe in procedural approaches to things.
	Now, of course, what they're doing is rotten in a whole host of ways.
	And you could also argue that Universities should not be, certainly private universities, should not be taking billions and billions of dollars from the federal taxpayer.
	But the approach, it seems to me, is like the way Doge has been cutting into the federal government.
	Rather than, and it seems to me, sometimes they will go to a department and say, we're going to get rid of 10,000 people.
	Rather than going to the department and saying, okay, this function and this function and this function and this function and all these half a dozen other functions are no good.
	We're going to get rid of all of those people.
	And that seems to be something more like the approach that Heather MacDonald is proposing here.
	Let some of these grants expire.
	Of course, Donald Trump's got only maybe three and a half more years left.
	He's in a hurry.
	This is a disturbing thing to me.
	You just said maybe.
	Are you referring to maybe I'm running again?
	Or you're just saying, I'm sorry.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	I know.
	I got it.
	He better not run again.
	Some of the stuff this guy's been saying I find deeply disturbing.
	But the goal is good.
	And I think Heather McDonald is correct.
	All of this obvious racial discrimination.
	All of this diversity has absolutely got to go, and there's strong legal grounds for that.
	But when you start saying, okay, with diversity of viewpoint, that's a pretty tricky thing.
	When you're saying, okay, you're a private university, but we're going to pass on who you can hire and who you can't hire.
	At least in terms of racial discrimination, they can do that.
	In terms of viewpoint discrimination, it's tough.
	It's tough.
	But we'll see what happens.
	And, of course...
	The Trump administration is threatening to withhold billions of federal dollars from public schools unless they sign documents attesting that they don't use illegal DEI practices.
	That's correct, but just to throw in two things, one is $2.2 billion.
	It's $2.2 billion, yes.
	And just for all of our listeners who might not know this, but Harvard has one of the largest endowments at $53 billion.
	That's right.
	It's the richest university in the world.
	They just announced that they got so much money that if you have a household income, if you're a student with a household income of less than $200,000, there's going to be no tuition at all.
	It's about time they did that.
	They got so much dough.
	Ron Unz, who is a brilliant analysis of so many things, he says Harvard is really a hedge fund that runs a university on the side.
	Yeah, you're right.
	The assets under management are just...
	Mind-blowing.
	Yeah, and I'm sure that number's down a little bit with the decline in some of the stocks, but anyways, they're diversified quite nicely.
	So, yeah, the story that you referred to, Mr. Taylor, is New York State officials, last week they actually told the Trump administration they're not going to comply with demands to end diversity, equity, and inclusion practices in public schools.
	Well, first of all, let us look at what they're actually asking to be done.
	This is a slightly different story.
	They're threatening to withhold billions of federal dollars to K-12, but this threat may not have much of an effect in Republican states because they've already got DEI laws on the books.
	So remove DEI.
	You're right.
	Yes. This is DEI.
	Alabama, Georgia, Florida.
	Exactly. Exactly.
	But schools in Democrat-led states, they've got programs and policies regarding race and gender that Trump considers illegal, but sometimes the states require these.
	This is going to come up with a real clash.
	And last week, the administration announced it was going to cancel federal funding to all schools in the state of Maine because they allow these transgender so-called athletes.
	That's right.
	And it has threatened the same thing in California.
	Because the state's policies about parental notification of transgender students.
	See, then education officials in about a dozen states have refused to adopt.
	And you'll tell us about how New York City went about it.
	But advocacy groups like the ACLU and the NAACP have filed lawsuits challenging these threatened cuts.
	The administration argues that any program that separates students by race to provide targeted support, that's illegal segregation.
	That's discrimination.
	That includes mentoring programs specially set aside, often for black boys, or tutoring that's supposed to increase black or Hispanics' graduation or enrollment in advanced courses.
	I mean, that's clear racial discrimination.
	And the Trump administration says, also, teaching concepts like white privilege discriminates against white students.
	In some of these goofy states, white privilege is all part of the ethnic studies courses that are taught regularly K-12.
	This is going to lead up to a pretty interesting showdown.
	In California, agreeing to Trump's demands would put school districts in violation of state laws that require teaching this stuff.
	And, you know, it's ironic because...
	Many liberals have argued for years that the federal government should play a bigger role in K-12.
	Note this national curriculum.
	They were all fine.
	The federal government dictating the rules from the federal government was grotesquely, relentlessly DEI, CRT-driven, and all of these anti-white stuff, that's fine.
	Well, let Washington have as much power as possible.
	And conservatives, including Trump, have often said the federal government should allow states to chart their own educational paths.
	Well, now the arguments are being made in the opposite direction from the opposite sides.
	So the American tradition of local control of schools is what allows liberal states now to say, no, Trump, we're not going to do it.
	So, again, another very interesting fight is building up here.
	Now, tell us more about the tales on New York refusing to do what Trump is telling them.
	I've got some anti-federalists evolving out there.
	Exactly. States' rights.
	States' rights.
	They're going to start quoting John C. Calhoun next.
	They might actually see if they can get that statue that was torn down in Charleston.
	Yeah. No, like I said, New York State officials, they told Trump admin that they were not going to comply with the demands to MDEI.
	Daniel Morton Bentley, the counsel and deputy commissioner of the state's Department of Education, sent in a letter.
	A few weeks ago that the federal education department that he sent there, that state officials do not believe federal agency has authority to make such demands.
	Quote, you know, we understand the current administration seeks to censor anything it deems diversity, equity, inclusion, but there are no federal or state laws prohibiting the principles of DEI.
	Well, the thing is, there are.
	It's all these crazy definitional...
	I think they genuinely believe that DEI is simply removing obstacles for these marvelously qualified people to be treated the way they deserve.
	I don't know.
	Anyway, I'm sorry.
	Please continue.
	No, I agree with you.
	I mean, this is new.
	This is the fabric that holds together this weird tapestry that's been woven to try and snuff out the America that our ancestors built.
	And we're seeing they're going to fight tooth and nail in a place like New York.
	You're right.
	They're anti-federalists.
	He wrote that state officials were unaware of any authority that the Federal Department of Education has to demand states agree with its interpretation of court decisions or to terminate funding without a formal administrative process.
	The Trump administration ordered K-12 schools nationwide to certify within 10 days that they are following federal civil rights laws and ending any discriminatory DEI practices as a condition for receiving federal money.
	Federal funding comprises about 6% of the total funding for New York K-12 schools.
	Now, Mr. Taylor, we're seeing basically the Inverse of what happened with the Civil Rights Act of 1964 when that was passed and the mandating by the federal government for southern states to integrate with the – well, I actually should go back and say that was Brown v.
	Board in the 1950s.
	That's why in 1962 at Ole Miss, you had the riot that broke out when James Meredith was forced on that campus.
	White students weren't going to stand for it.
	No, it's also interesting.
	People don't take principled positions on these things.
	If the federal government is doing what the locals like, yay!
	We don't believe in states' rights at all.
	But if the federal government is not doing what we want, then all of a sudden we are great believers in John C. Calhoun and interposition.
	Yeah. That's exactly right.
	Right. There are a couple of really good quotes here.
	Federal financial assistance is a privilege.
	It's not a right.
	Craig Treanor, Acting Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights, said in a statement when the demand was made, he said many schools have flouted their legal obligations, including by using DEI programs to discriminate against one group of Americans to favor another.
	The certification demand asks state and school leaders to sign a reminder of legal obligations acknowledging their federal money as conditioned on compliance with federal civil rights laws.
	Also demands compliance with several pages of legal analysis written by the administration.
	So, again, this all goes back to Title 6 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which, again, they're saying the federal government Which was already certified on multiple occasions that they're complying.
	Federal government is basing its demands to NDI programs on faulty legal interpretation, according to Daniel Morton Bentley, who, like I said, is the Council and Deputy Commissioner for the State of New York Department of Education.
	Well, what's so interesting about this is, remember the last time he used this approach on sanctuary cities?
	Trump was threatening to withhold money only that was law enforcement related.
	Remember? I do.
	At this time, he's threatening to withhold every single federal dime.
	And it's the same with...
	This money that goes to the schools, it can pay for teachers' age, it can pay for school lunches, it can pay for anything at all.
	He's just going to completely turn off the tap.
	And this is going to be a shock.
	It's certainly easier to stop writing checks than it is to start writing them.
	So, again, this is another big collision that is brewing.
	We will see how this will turn out.
	It is.
	And they also point out, they also kind of tease that threat of financial sanctions in this article.
	That the Trump administration has been leveraging against colleges and its efforts to crack down on protests against Israel that it deems anti-Semitic.
	We also know that the Trump administration is currently investigating roughly 50 colleges and universities for what they deemed anti-white discrimination or anti-white policies when it came to scholarships.
	It's about time.
	That's right.
	I think we talked about that a few weeks ago.
	Yes, yes.
	And interestingly, one of those is the University of Alabama, which is infamous for the George Wallace segregation, segregation today, segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever speech.
	Yes. Well, it didn't last long, did it?
	Well, and in this context, I think it is relevant to discuss a new book published just last month.
	It's called The Origins of Critical Race Theory.
	By New York University Press, written by Aja Martinez and Robert Smith.
	Aja is a lady, neither is white.
	They recently spoke with Inside Higher Education, which is one of these trade journals that is relentlessly lefty.
	But the book explains the origins of critical race theory, CRT.
	But, again...
	It's so interesting to look into this and try to grasp what these people genuinely believe.
	Critical race theory, of course, is cooked up to explain how racism is embedded into legal and all other institutional systems and policies in the United States.
	CRT, as one of these people says, is a central tool in the tool chest of resistance.
	And part of the reason that it is being attacked is because it is so incisive a tool.
	Again, when people, you know, one of these days, I really am going to have to drag myself through a book that really tries to explain how CRT, how is racism embedded in one man, one vote, for example?
	How is racism embedded in habeas corpus?
	How is racism embedded in a jury of your peers?
	Well, you know, you can get into a certain aspect of that.
	Should black people have nothing but black jurors in any case?
	These people are going to say identity politics and DEI are being absorbed into corporate life.
	But CRT cannot be incorporated in the same way because it has a fundamental critique of the dominant ideology.
	And all of these tenets of CRT matter in moments like this.
	DEI is human relations-based compliance.
	It's not CRT.
	CRT is a deeper, more incisive analysis of all societal structures.
	It cannot be captured in the same way, and that is why it is currently a target.
	Again, you know, this is reminding me, I really should...
	Make an attempt to understand this, an honest attempt.
	So this is kind of an interview structure.
	If the political situation becomes such that it's untenable for scholars to continue to practice or teach critical race theory, what does that mean?
	Well, the authors of this book say we would lose fundamental knowledge.
	What CRT points out is that this turns into a suppression of knowledge.
	Different people's ways of knowing are obliterated and it homogenizes knowledge so that only that is what is acceptable to straight white men is allowed.
	I mean, the ways of knowledge, as if that suggests that non-whites and homosexuals have a different way of knowing things.
	By denying the importance of diversities and diversity of experience, you deny the importance of diversities of knowing.
	This really ultimately sounds like there's a different periodical table for black people.
	This guy says, they go on to say the other side, that means people like you and me, we have a very provocative story, but our story is lies.
	It's a tall tale.
	Well, it's fundamentally flawed, yeah.
	But in other words, if we say, well, wait a minute, wait a minute, everybody's got the same periodic table.
	The law of gravity affects everybody in the same way.
	One man, one vote, that affects everybody in the same way.
	But they're saying our tall tale is accessible, it's scary, and people are able to get emotionally involved in what they're saying, and we are at our wit's end what to do at this moment.
	CRT is beyond the shadow of a doubt, an organic and natural extension of the civil rights movement, and it was always intended to be understood and operated on by the masses.
	Wow. I mean, these people live in a different world.
	They really see things so differently, and I guess that's why, ultimately, when we say, look, DEI is racial discrimination, they say, no, no, no, you live in a different world, and they're right.
	So, and this brings us to your other story here about DEI just being rebranded.
	It has been, but I would encourage you at some point, Ibram Kendi's book, Stamped from the Beginning, would probably be a good logical first step.
	But that guy's not got any brains.
	All of his arguments are so simple-minded.
	I want somebody that's actually thought seriously about this stuff.
	Explain to me how does systemic racism work?
	I'd also like to know if Doge has looked into any of the grants that were given to his organization.
	We spoke a few years ago about...
	Well, his organization's toes up.
	But I think they probably spent all their money, didn't they?
	It was at Boston University, that's right.
	I'd love to know the exact amount that was given, you know, if there was any auditing.
	But anyways, like you said, going to DEI, there's an attempt to market it in a different way.
	Several U.S. corporations claimed to abandon initiatives related to DEI in conjunction with the new administration.
	A new report, though, shows that many of these companies, they didn't actually do wave DEI.
	What they did is they renamed the concept to belonging.
	Will Held is the Executive Director of Consumers First, and he first noticed this word swap and explained the details to Fox News, to Fox Business earlier this week.
	He said, quote, it's obvious belonging is nothing more than DEI by another name.
	These companies actually believing that no one will notice the fact that they quietly rebranded all their DEI programs, pretty insulting the intelligence of their own customers.
	Companies still prioritizing DEI under the guise of belonging include Kohl's, Dollar Tree, Disney, Google, and Amazon.
	In the article from Outkick, they've got a number of ex-posts, one including one by Michelle Banks.
	Kohl's recently changed her job title from Chief DEI Officer to Chief Inclusion and Belonging Officer.
	So you can take a look at her ex-post.
	The company also scrapped its diversity, equity, and inclusion webpage and created an inclusion and belonging page instead.
	Additionally, Kohl's has removed DEI from its annual 10K report and replaced it with, you guessed it, inclusion and belonging.
	Kohl's DEI obsession has not disappeared.
	It only has a new name.
	It's been rebranded, like you said.
	It's conceptualizing change and DEI in just a less intolerant and vitriolic manner.
	Dollar Tree, likewise, replaced a webpage titled Creating a Cultural of Inclusion with one called Creating a Cultural of Belonging, where the page reads, Our associates embrace and celebrate diversity, equity, and inclusion.
	That's gone.
	It now says, Our associates embrace and celebrate our cultural of belonging.
	Belonging. Well, we have spoken about this a time or two, but at Berkeley, University of California at Berkeley, they have an Institute of Othering and Belonging.
	They do?
	Yes. It's been around for a while.
	I suppose you and I, we are the people who are in the othering business.
	And all of these virtuous people who want to all hold hands, they are in the belonging business.
	We are in the ostracizing business.
	We are in the seclusion business.
	Anyways, again, Trump singled out Nationwide for its aggressive commitment to internal DEI initiatives.
	The insurance company responded by removing all mentions of DEI from its website.
	However, like the others mentioned, simply replaced diversity with belonging.
	So it's almost as if there was some forward-thinking leftist Bolsheviks out there within academia who said, you know what?
	Maybe there's going to be a pushback.
	Let's go ahead and have another marketing plan in place so that it's almost like A-B testing.
	Which one's going to work?
	Which message won't be attacked?
	Belonging sounds a lot better than diversity,
	Belonging, let's do that.
	Right. So, let's see here if there's anything else.
	Yeah, the Outkick article just has some commentary, so we'll leave it at that.
	Just know that corporate America is doing everything they can to skirt the demands for removing this with this new term belonging.
	Well, you know, if they're accurate about it, they've called it the Department of Anti-White Viciousness.
	That's right.
	You can't really expect honesty out of these people.
	Well, this is a satirical article from the Daily Mail.
	And it starts like this.
	It says, What's gotten into modern women?
	Police in Detroit and Michigan have arrested a suspect in a harrowing case of animal cruelty.
	Having forced entry into a home, police found a dog suffering from multiple stab wounds.
	And the suspect posted videos of the dogs suffering online.
	This is shocking, not least because, according to police and leading left-wing news outlets, the suspect is a woman.
	I was surprised, because when I was growing up, I would swear women were never charged with such brutal, aggressive, violent crimes.
	But if they ever had, I feel sure they would have taken Trump to look smart and respectable for their police mugshot.
	Not so in this case.
	On Friday evening at Independent, the left-wing news site ran a report headline, A Woman Accused of Stabbing Dog.
	Beneath the headline was the woman's mugshot, and it showed her with several days' worth of stubble.
	Of course, I don't mean to mock the woman for her looks.
	That would be sexist.
	So I will refrain from drawing attention to her uncommonly large ears and her remarkably square jaw.
	But I do think, before having had her mugshot taken, she should have at least had a shave.
	These days, though, this is increasingly common.
	In February, the website of the Southern Daily Echo ran a story headlined, Hampshire woman appears in court charged with raping girl.
	Beneath this headline was a photo of the woman in question.
	She appeared also to have several days' worth of stubble.
	And two months before that, the Manchester Evening News reported that a dangerous woman named Angel Hill had been jailed for violent physical and sexual abuse, and the accompanying mugshot showed that, like the women above, Can anyone explain this mystery?
	So, as a matter of fact, we can explain the mystery.
	Because, and I'm sure you're aware of this, Mr. Kersey, the UK Supreme Court...
	has finally issued a ruling stating that a woman in law refers to a biological female.
	That transgender women are not female in the eyes of the law.
	It is astonishing that this sort of thing had to come up the Supreme Court and it took the British Supreme Court 88 pages of verdict to arrive at this conclusion but in a unanimous verdict the United Kingdom now says that legally transgender so-called women are not women.
	A woman is defined by her biological sex.
	This ruling marks the end of a battle of many years between the Scottish government and women's rights campaigners who sought to oppose the government's promotion of transgender ideology.
	In 2018, the Scottish government issued a decision allowing the definition of a woman to include men who assumed their gender to be female, opening the door to allowing so-called Now, this was challenged by women's rights campaigners,
	saying that a woman should be defined in line with the biological sex.
	But in 2022, the Scottish government was then forced to change its definition after the court found that such a move was outside the government's legal competence to determine.
	Well, what they then did, the Scottish government issued new guidance.
	Which sought to cover both aspects, saying that biological women are women, but also that men with a gender recognition certificate, a GRC, to its friends, are also considered women.
	A GRC is given to women who identify as the opposite sex who have had medical, surgical interventions in order to reassign their gender.
	So, the debate has finally taken center stage in Britain.
	Not least for the role played by Keir Starmer, Labour Prime Minister.
	He became notorious throughout the nation for his contradictions and inability to answer the question of what a woman is, having flipped and flopped on saying that a woman can have a penis, and due to his support of the transgender movement.
	This is something that has not yet happened in the United States, but it is refreshing.
	Britain, which has been leading the charge in so many directions of insanity, has finally come right out and said, you can have all the surgery you like.
	You can take all the drugs you like.
	You could have your very own gender recognition certificate.
	But it ain't so.
	If you're born a woman, you are a woman.
	Mm-hmm.
	I saw J.K. Rowling was quite pleased with this.
	I think most human beings are pleased with this.
	No, they are.
	It's insane we're having to talk about this.
	I think that shows you just how much work has to be done, not just on the racial front, but on the recognition of biological gender.
	To me, it sort of started with race, the idea that race just doesn't matter.
	And we're all basically the same.
	And then all the, you know, culture doesn't matter.
	All cultures are equally good.
	And sexual orientation doesn't matter.
	It's just, you know, sort of a choice and it's all okay.
	And then sex doesn't matter.
	All of these destructions of the ancient distinctions that really give life meaning, flavor, real zest, all of these things are just being...
	Brushed aside.
	Now, you have a story about two-tier Keir, do you not?
	Let's see which one we're talking about.
	Are we talking about over in England?
	Yes. Keir Starmer.
	Yeah, gosh, as an Anglo-Saxon, this is really hard to read.
	I know, I know.
	They are letting the team down in a bad way.
	Yeah, as you mentioned, the British Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, has removed scores of historical artworks from 10 Downing Street.
	And replace them with what Daily Mail calls objectively awful drawings in the name of diversity.
	Objectively awful.
	I like that.
	Objectively awful, yes.
	The works of Starmer are ordered.
	The works Starmer ordered pulled down as part of the cultural purge includes portraits of William Shakespeare, Winston Churchill, William Gladstone, Margaret Thatcher, Sir Walter Raleigh, and...
	past British monarchs, including Elizabeth I. She's my favorite queen,
	The leftist leader has replaced paintings of those historical figures, those dead white males and dead white females, with what can only be described as ugly doodles by modern artists.
	Starmer was last night accused of being enthralled to the...
	Will Karate, after the full list of the paintings removed from number 10 since he moved in, was revealed.
	I've already mentioned the paintings of some of the more than 69 works of art disinstalled from the government art collection.
	I like that.
	Disinstalled. They've been disinvited from hanging on the walls of 10 Downing Street.
	The revelation comes after a long freedom of information battle with the Tories.
	So among their replacements are Alter.
	It's a scene from the 2023 Falmouth Reggae Festival in Cornwall by Denzel Forrester.
	I think we can probably figure out the race of the artist by his first name.
	Other paintings include All Things Being Equal by the Nigerian abstract artist Ninje Amuku.
	Which employs the human body as a medium to convey the internal experiences by using oil paint on strips of Sinan indigenous fabric from pre-colonial Nigeria.
	Oh boy.
	Oh boy.
	That beats Shakespeare every day.
	Any day.
	Almond Class by British...
	Is that the correct way to pronounce it?
	If he's from Ghana, he's a Ghanaian.
	That's right.
	Okay. By British Ghanaian Lynette Yadam-Bowacki, who specializes in brooding portraits of black life.
	Are there any other portraits of black life?
	That's one of the main adjectives I would use to describe the way that the black male or female looks.
	And then, of course, you have Christina Kimsey's Still 3, who currently has an exhibition inspired by the resurgence of roller skating in black communities.
	I mean, this is enthralling stuff.
	It's kind of art that all those portraits of dead white males and dead white females had to be disinvited.
	Well, were you aware of the resurgence of roller skating in black communities?
	I had yet to hear about this wonderful happenstance.
	You must not live in a black community.
	I do not live in a black community.
	You missed the roller skating group.
	The last person I saw roller skating, I'm sure you've seen this before at a grocery store, but I saw a young little white kid who had these cool shoes and he clicked them and then wheels popped out of the bottom and he started skating around the grocery store.
	So, anyways.
	Well, okay.
	So, yeah, there you go.
	We've got some wonderful art of brooding black roller skaters.
	Now, Mr. Kersey, there was a little element in that story that struck me, which you have failed to reveal to our listeners.
	And that is the fact that number 10 downing is not open to the public.
	So, all of this virtuous signaling is for his own benefit.
	It's for his own personal enjoyment.
	You're right.
	That's right.
	He himself apparently wants to spend his days gazing at brooding black roller skaters rather than Queen Elizabeth or at William Shakespeare.
	Yes, that's exactly right.
	Walter Raleigh, you're out of here.
	I've got this brooding black roller skater that brings far more mirth and enjoyment to my life.
	Whatever. Out of the way, white man.
	We're coming through on our roller skates.
	If Cuck Island couldn't have been more cucked.
	Well, now here is a story that caught my imagination.
	This is from the New York Times.
	The New York Times is clucking about a development that displeases the New York Times.
	It points out nearly a quarter century has passed since the terrorist attacks in September 11, 2001.
	Over that time, however, the population of Dallas-Fort Worth metro area has swelled by more than 60% to around 8.3 million people.
	Its growth has included a diverse influx of new Texans from all over the world, many of them Muslim, but also Hindus.
	This is the build-up, this is the wind-up to a story about a development that is to take place on a 400-acre field of corn and hay outside of Josephine, Texas.
	And it is being put together to be an Islamic city.
	It would be anchored by a mosque, surrounded by a thousand homes.
	And it's being planned by the East Plano Islamic Center.
	This hadn't occurred to you, I bet, but the East Plano Islamic Center, its initials are EPIC, and this is going to be an epic undertaking.
	By the way, I'm sure we'll be corrected.
	Is it pronounced Plano?
	It's Plano, Texas.
	Right. Yes, I'm pretty sure of that.
	Well, the New York Times has incensed to report that Governor Greg Abbott has posted about the development at least 11 times in recent weeks.
	He's not keen on it.
	And Attorney General Ken Paxson has launched a criminal inquiry.
	Greg Abbott is looking into whether or not they have violated any zoning regulations.
	And the people who are setting this thing up, Imran Chadouri, he is the president of something called Community Capital Partners that is scraping the money together for this.
	He says, we never thought the project would get this much attention.
	And Imam Nadim Bashir, who is the spiritual leader of this undertaking, and who runs a current mosque, he said the governor has created unnecessary fear.
	He says, and get this, Mr. Kersey and all you listeners all around the world, Islam is a personal moral code of life.
	That's all it is.
	He says it means standing up for people, serving people, taking care of your family, and being honest.
	So, there's nothing to fear of a development of a huge mosque surrounded by a thousand homes populated by Muslims.
	Recently, Republican leaders in Texas have been alarmed by residential communities that appear to cater to particular homebuyers, especially this, there's one in Houston called Colony Ridge.
	Many of its people are undocumented.
	And opponents of this development epic are pointing to statements and marketing materials that appear aimed at attracting only Muslim buyers.
	They say it's a way of life, a meticulously designed community that brings Islam to the forefront, according to a promotional video.
	But the imam says there's nothing to worry about.
	People need to understand that Muslims here in Plano, we are just like everybody else.
	But we just happen to want to all live together in one big, happy thousand-house subdivision that is surrounding an enormous mosque as well as Islamic schools for all your children.
	Now, of course, Mr. Kersey, I'm of two minds about this.
	These people should not be here.
	This is like a conquering army.
	On the other hand, I do believe in complete freedom of association.
	And if you and I...
	And we had some financial backers, and we had the means to carve out a community of a thousand homes, and we marketed it to a particular group of people.
	I'd like to think that that's something we could do.
	So, on the one hand, these people just shouldn't be here to begin with.
	They should not have been let into the country.
	However, if we are to claim freedom of association, it's difficult to say it's okay for us, but not for you.
	But it is really dismaying to see that the people who are exercising this level of freedom of association in this really large-scale way are not people like us, but people who are unlike us, do not want to be like us,
	and cannot be like us.
	And this reminds me also of a...
	I made a little tweet about an 80-foot tall statue of Haruman.
	That is the tallest statue in all of Texas.
	It's the fourth largest statue in the world.
	And I just found out about it a few days ago.
	It went up several years ago.
	It's an enormous statue.
	It's a gold monkey deity.
	It is.
	It is the most astonishing thing.
	And that is in Sugar Land, Texas.
	So Texas seems to be the home.
	You know, here they have these perfectly ordinary sounding places.
	What was this place going to be?
	It was in...
	Gosh, I've already forgotten its name.
	It's in...
	Oh, well, gosh.
	In Josephine, Texas.
	Named after Napoleon's wife, I guess.
	Josephine, Texas.
	Before you know it, it's going to have this enormous Muslim community.
	And Sugar Land, Texas, has an 80-foot stall and 80 feet.
	That's high.
	That's about the size of a five, six-story building of this great golden monkey god.
	It is a gaudy, just, it is about as, yeah, I don't think you're doing it justice.
	Your tweet was fantastic.
	It's been shared by a lot of people.
	It had been hewed by close to a million people.
	I mean, it's one of those great questions.
	You know, what's going on down there in the great state of Texas?
	Come on, guys.
	That's right.
	And see, again, if we, Yeah, it was always shocking.
	You used to live in an area where there was always near the Battle of Manassas.
	There's a big state park right off of 66 where they would always do these massive Indian cultural celebrations.
	And there would be tens of thousands.
	And it was just, it was like, wow, there really is a massive Indian population.
	You know, years ago, it must have been about 20 years ago, it first really dawned on me.
	I was in some shopping mall.
	And it had a big theater complex, and apparently it was showing some enormous series of Bollywood movies.
	And I had never seen so many Indians in my life.
	I didn't realize there were so many in the entire United States of America.
	You were just suddenly transported to Bombay.
	But there they were.
	There they were.
	Some of them, they're saris.
	A lot of them, they're saris.
	They're sarisaris.
	But anyway, well, Mr. Cursey, you've been following this Carmelo Anthony business far more closely than I. So please bring us up to date.
	Well, there's a lot that's broken.
	We won't get to it all today because there was a press conference that was fascinating.
	One thing that we do know is the Texas teen accused of fatally stabbing the white high school football star Austin Metcalf at the track meet allegedly lives in a $900,000 home with his family inside a luxurious gated community.
	Despite Mr. Taylor requesting that a judge lower his $1 million bond because of financial difficulties, Carmelo Anthony is holed up with his family at the Pricey Home inside the gated community of Richwoods in Frisco, Texas, which is a suburb of Dallas.
	He was released from jail on Monday on a reduced $250,000 bond for allegedly killing Austin Metcalf.
	Earlier this month.
	Now, he's already confessed to this, by the way.
	Yes, yes.
	So that's interesting wording.
	He's confessed.
	The home, where rent is estimated to be $3,500 a month, had a white Suburban, a black Acura, and a third sedan in the driveway, according to the outlet.
	A neighbor said the family had just bought a new ride.
	He got a new car, the resident told the outlet.
	If you look at the license plate, it's got a paper tag, and it says, expires June 4th.
	Rich Woods is about a mile from Centennial High School where Anthony went to school, played football, ran track.
	Well, Mr. Kersey, are we to assume that this new ride is the fruits of some of this public money that he's been raising?
	Well, the family, his mother today stressed that they have not taken a cent, which is nearly $500,000 that has been raised.
	Last time I checked from the Give, Send, Go campaign, they said that in this really weird press conference today where Austin Metcalf's father actually showed up and was asked to leave by the new attorney for the family or their
	personal advisor.
	But the mother said that their daughter is actually afraid to even be in her own room.
	And, you know, it's funny.
	Wait, wait, Mr. Curzio.
	The father of the white truck, the white woman who was killed, he showed up and they made him go away?
	They made him go away.
	He couldn't even be at a press conference?
	No, he could not be.
	They made him go away.
	I don't believe he was escorted out by police.
	I believe he left it under his own volition, but he was there.
	He should have made him force him out.
	He's got every right to be here.
	I think his dad, and I think this story, I think his dad is going to do a pretty good redemption arc.
	I have this feeling about this story.
	Look, we've...
	I know you don't like a lot of these stories because they happen so ubiquitously and so frequently across the country.
	It's hard to look at these stories.
	Now, I've looked at these stories a lot because I had a friend who was murdered in Atlanta back in 2011 by a guy who did a mass shooting, shot two other white girls because he learned about white privilege.
	Oh, that's right.
	Yes, I remember.
	Right, right, yeah.
	So a lot of these stories hit hard, and I've never seen, Mr. Taylor and dear listeners, a reaction like we're seeing.
	Well, but the father, the white father initially said that, oh, he felt so sorry for this guy.
	He's going to have to live with it for the rest of his life.
	And his family's going to be so sorry about all this.
	Is he really turning into a white man with a backbone after all?
	Is that what you're telling me?
	He showed up and there's this very picture of him.
	There's this great picture of him looking resolute and looking like he's like, what has happened?
	This is insane.
	You guys have raised all this money.
	Like I said, close to $500,000.
	You can actually get for $25.
	If you order now, you get a Justice for Carmelo Anthony t-shirt, which you can get right now online.
	I'm not sure if shipping and handling is free.
	It didn't say on the website.
	But they are out there hawking Justice for Melo shirts.
	And again...
	Oh, Melo.
	His nickname is Melo.
	His nickname is Mellow.
	Oh, I'm sure he's a very mellow guy.
	Yeah, it's Sports' senior year photo, and again, it actually says that on the website, Mr. Taylor, it says this, Carmelo the Hero.
	On May 15, 2021, Carmelo saw a child drowning.
	Without hesitation, without thinking twice about his own safety, he acted.
	He didn't wait.
	He didn't panic.
	He saved a life.
	That moment showed not just bravery.
	It showed a deep sense of honor and selflessness.
	This is true.
	This is what the website Mr. Taylor for Justice for Carmelo says.
	It also says that this young man embodies integrity, loyalty, and heart.
	Of course, we all know he stabbed Austin Metcalf in the heart.
	Let me just say, this is going to turn out to be – I'm going to go on record here and I'm going to say this is going to be one of those fascinating moments for a lot of white people in my generation.
	I'm in my – wait.
	I have very vivid memories of 1995 when the O.J. Simpson was read, but this is a case where the internet has made all these stories that Colin Flaherty talked about, the late Colin Flaherty, over the years.
	Now this is the one that is just so glaring.
	It's taken off.
	Yes, it has.
	More importantly, Mr. Taylor, I think we have to take off.
	We do.
	We indeed do.
	And we failed to tell people how to get in touch with us.
	We'd love to hear from you, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.
	Please tell us what you think about our stories.
	Call our attention to things we might have missed.
	If you've got a different angle on something we've talked about, or, of course, if we have made an error.
	We hate to make errors, but we confess we sometimes do.
	Please correct them.
	And the way to do so is you can send a message directly to me at the Amran website, amren.com, and go to the Contact Us page and send a message to me.
	And there's another way to get a message to Mr. Kersey.
	Yeah, it's simple.
	BecauseWeLiveHereAtProton.me.
	Once again, that email address is BecauseWeLiveHereAtProton.me.
	Well, and this comes to the end of our allotted time.
	Thank you so much, ladies and gentlemen.
	It is a joy, a pleasure, and an honor to be with you.
	And we look forward to spending this time with you next week.

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