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Jared Taylor: "Why We are Winning" (2019)
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My name is Jared Taylor.
I'm the editor of American Renaissance, and the subject of my talk today is why we are winning.
Now, the answer to that question is really, there's a short one and a long one.
And the short one is we're winning because we're right and our opponents are wrong.
We have the right to be us.
And only we can be us.
And more and more of our fellow whites all around the world are waking up to this fact, waking up from this drugged, suicidal sleep that seems to have paralyzed us for the last 50 or 60 years.
And maybe I'm just foolishly optimistic, but I do believe that eventually goodness, truth, and beauty will win over their opponents, and we too will be victorious.
Now, this is not just a matter of foolish optimism.
I see many encouraging signs, and I'd like to talk about some of them.
One of the most encouraging signs, I believe, is the extent to which more and more Americans simply distrust the media, and for obviously understandable reasons.
In 1976, believe it or not, 72% of Americans said that they generally trusted the mass media.
Fewer than half, 45%, and only 21% of Republicans, not surprisingly, believe what these corporate shills are trying to say to us.
And there's more good news about young people.
Young people under the age of 30, they are less likely than their elders to believe the media.
Only 33%, one-third of people under the age of 30. So we count on you guys to be skeptical and continue to be skeptical.
Part of it, of course, is that the corporate media biases are so spectacular and plain and open.
It seems to me they just can't help themselves.
Every news story ends up being an editorial and more and more people are seeing through it.
Just an example almost taken at random.
On May 7th, the New York Times had a screaming headline, Huge Racial Disparities Found in Deaths Linked to Pregnancy.
Deaths linked to pregnancy is what we used to call death in childbirth.
That is complications from childbirth, etc.
And once again, this was another example of vicious, white, entrenched supremacy in America that we're supposed to lacerate ourselves over in sackcloth and ashes because it turns out that blacks and American Indians have three times the death in childbirth than white people.
And they quoted all sorts of people, including Elizabeth Warren.
And Kamala Harris saying this is outrageous.
This is proof of inveterate racism in America.
This is shameful.
Well, if you manage to get down to paragraph 26 of this article, they just tossed off the fact that Hispanics have a lower death in childbirth rate even than whites.
They just tossed this off.
I suppose they had a guilty conscience.
They didn't feel as though they could completely suppress it.
No explanation.
But why is it?
That in this viciously white supremacist society that is making sure that blacks and American Indians suffer and whites don't, somehow we neglected to make Hispanics suffer.
Also, in this article they never mentioned the death in childbirth rates for Asians, which are right down there along with whites.
And believe it or not, even the readers of the New York Times are aware of this utter foolishness.
More and more people are reading things like this and just shaking their heads.
They simply cannot believe what they're being told.
Sometimes the unhinged partisan hatred of Donald Trump is almost hilarious.
I remember after the midterm elections, I was looking at the Washington Post.
And the Washington Post has a number of op-ed pieces.
And they had the trending ones, the most popular.
Popular op-ed pieces on the Washington Post the day after the elections.
They had the titles as follows.
Trump freaks out after the election.
Trump is leaving a trail of ruin behind him.
Trump's rambling, angry news conference shows he ignored the message voters sent him.
And then my favorite.
Trump just reminded us he's still a dangerous authoritarian who will burn it all down.
They think he's going to set fire to the city of Washington and fiddle while it burns and maybe blame homosexual illegal aliens from Guatemala.
This cuckoo, utterly cuckoo idea about Donald Trump and anyone who disagrees with their equality uber alis kind of ideology.
It's just astonishing.
Now, on the subject of disbelieving these people, I think it was quite interesting.
Do you know that, of course, as newspapers always do, they were endorsements before the 2016 elections.
And the number of papers that endorsed Hillary Clinton, there were 500 of them.
And then there were another 30 who couldn't bring themselves to endorse our dear friend Hillary, but they said anybody but Trump.
So that's 530 of them.
Now, any of you have any idea how many papers?
Endorsed Donald Trump.
The number is not zero, by the way.
Oh, sorry.
I beg your pardon.
That wasn't what it looked like.
Now, the number of endorsements was not zero.
There were actually 27 newspapers in the United States that endorsed Donald Trump.
And I suspect that this is the first time in American history in which you've had such a monolithic statement of support for one candidate, and then enough people voting said,"I don't care what the head table says.
I don't trust you guys." Buzz off!
And they voted for Donald Trump.
This was, I think, an unprecedented act of independence by the American voter.
Now what does this mean, this lack of faith in conventional media?
It means, of course, that people like us, who are purveyors in many cases of alternative media, consumers of alternative media, it makes our job so much easier.
When the New York Times runs these idiotic, one-sided articles, people are going to look for somebody who is not idiotic and one-sided, and they're likely to come to us.
They're likely to come to Countercurrents, Red Ice, and all of these YouTube channels and commentators and podcasts that tell people the kinds of things that they really want to hear.
Another thing that I find deeply encouraging is the extent to which Americans no longer trust the United States government.
Would you believe that in the time of JFK and Eisenhower, nearly 80% of Americans trusted the federal government to do the right thing, either all the time or almost all the time.
80%. It's an astonishing figure.
That must be almost like living in Hungary, for heaven's sake.
But by the time Obama came around, that 80% figure dropped to 20%.
And it has not changed under Donald Trump.
Only 20%.
80% to 20%.
This is, again, an astonishing...
Manifestation of the radical dissatisfaction, this radical alienation of Americans with regard to media elites and government elites.
Another encouraging thing that I find is that academics are beginning to notice in a somewhat more reflective way the sorts of things that we are seeing.
And in Europe, you find a rather more balanced approach to these questions than here in the United States.
There is, for example, the book that some of you may be familiar with.
It's called White Shift.
It came out in 2018 by a fellow named Eric Kaufman, who's at Birkbeck College in London.
And let me quote to you some of the things that this guy is saying.
He says, if politics in the West is ever to return to normal rather than becoming even more polarized, white interests will need to be discussed.
Fancy that.
An academic who actually recognizes that we, as white people, have legitimate interests.
You're not going to find that out of any academic in the United States that I know of.
He goes on to say, in an era of unprecedented white demographic decline, it is absolutely vital for it to have a democratic outlet.
Well, it's getting a democratic outlet in Europe.
I'll mention that later on.
Not in the United States.
Then he goes on to say, The idea of slowing down a rate of ethno-cultural change is not racist if it's motivated by attachment to one's own.
Well, what else is it motivated by?
Of course, we don't want to be replaced because we're attached to our own.
I find it significant that at least academics in certain parts of the world are taking our ideas seriously.
These things are trickling up, so to speak, to the intellectual class in a way that I find encouraging.
There's another book.
This is again by Brits.
It's called National Populism.
It came out last year by Roger Eatwell and Matthew Goodwin.
And these guys also, they make the point that limiting immigration is legitimate and that opposing demographic change, opposing dispossession is not, in fact, racist.
And this book, surprisingly enough, was Book of the Year for 2018 for the Times of London and the Financial Times.
So, the fact that these academics are beginning to scratch their heads and say to themselves,"Well, there may be something to this national populism," I think that's a very good sign.
Now, what's the equivalent to that in the United States?
Well, I just read a book called"White Identity Politics." It's by a woman by the name of Ashley Jardina at Duke University.
Now, her analysis, I think, is utterly idiotic and histrionic.
She thinks that, oh gosh, these white people are banding together.
They're having identity politics.
This is a horrible thing.
And I will read you a sentence that gives you a good example of the level of Ashley's analysis.
She says, some people fear change, especially if it threatens their way of life.
Fancy that.
Fancy that.
Who wouldn't resist change?
That's going to threaten your way of life.
But for white people to resist change, even if it threatens their way of life, oh boy, that's dangerous.
But she actually also had some very interesting survey data, which I'd like to convey to you.
She had this series of questions to figure out how much people think that their white identity is important.
And one of them was, how important is being white to your identity?
To what extent do you feel that white people in this country have a lot to be proud of?
How much would you say that whites in this country have a lot in common with one another?
And having asked a whole bunch of white people these questions, she rated them on a scale of very important, extremely important, not important, unimportant.
And she found that the number of people whom these questions were either very or extremely important was, depending on the sample, 30 to 40 percent.
That's a lot of white people who think that being white is important to them.
Those are the people that we are constantly reaching, and we must increase that number at all costs.
Now, Ashley Jardina, she points out that not only is the case that a lot of white people probably don't admit that being white is important to them, so she suspects this figure is actually higher.
She does concede that for blacks, rather than 30 or 40 percent, it's 69 to 85 percent.
Hispanics, 49 to 75 percent.
They clearly have a racial consciousness.
For Ashley Giardina, that's just fine.
It's only for us that it's not fine.
But at least she's doing the data and finding out these facts for us.
Now, we do face a lot of obstacles.
I'm not completely in the clouds on this question.
And one of the most obvious and annoying ones is deplatforming.
I won't go through a lengthy litany.
I'm sure all of you are familiar.
With some of the people who have been kicked off of social media and who've been effectively silenced.
We pride ourselves on being a land of liberty and freedom, standing up, sticking to your guns.
Well, of course, obviously not anymore.
But why is it that we are the people who are being constantly deplatformed?
The answer to that question is obvious.
Because we're dangerous.
The other side knows we're dangerous.
We have ideas.
That are not only appealing, but are irrefutable.
And so instead of taking the curative for bad speech that has been the traditional approach in the United States, the cure for bad speech is good speech.
More speech.
Free marketplace of ideas.
We cannot no longer tolerate that because our ideas cannot be refuted.
We have to be silenced.
And after all, when you think about it, we're the only Political position that has to be silenced.
If, for example, is anyone the least bit concerned about the Revolutionary Communist Party?
You know, they have a weekly newspaper.
It comes out both in English and Spanish.
They've been publishing this from 1979.
They have lots of members.
They have an active website.
Is anybody the least bit worried that the Revolutionary Communist Party is a threat to anybody?
Of course not.
Of course not.
They can do and say and march around all they want.
Because they're a threat to nobody.
We are.
The same, of course, is true with any Socialist Workers Party, for example.
The Trotskyists, they run candidates for president.
But, you know, nobody worries about them because they're not a threat.
But we find, with this kind of constant deplatforming, the ironical situation in which there is a book that is available on Amazon.
It's really not a bad book in its own way.
It's called Key Thinkers of the Radical Right.
And in this book, there is a chapter that is devoted to your servant, the editor of American Renaissance.
And there is a chapter devoted to Greg Johnson, who is in this room, the editor of Countercuts.
So you can read all about us in a book that you can buy on Amazon.
Now, after having bought this book, you might say to yourself, well, gee, I wonder if these guys have anything to say for themselves.
Well, if you go on Amazon, you will find that we have nothing to say for ourselves.
Because our books were one of the first to be removed under a new policy of digital book burning.
So we have this utterly absurd situation which you can read about these key thinkers, not their term, not mine, key thinkers of the radical right, but you can't read what we actually have to say for ourselves.
Now, of course, I think that deplatforming...
Awful as it is, as a kind of a whack-a-mole, there are too many of us now.
We can't be completely controlled.
If I get shut up, somebody else will take the floor, and we cannot be utterly and completely silenced.
And as it always does, the left is clearly overplaying its hand.
As some of you may be aware, in the last few days, Michelle Malkin has had some of her posts on Facebook taken down.
Michelle Malkin.
Who could be?
Less dangerous, less offensive, less impolite than Michelle Malkin, a person of color, a lady person of color.
But she apparently is too dangerous.
And when Michelle Malkin is being silenced...
You know that they've gone too far.
If they had stuck to silencing people like me or others, then you might think they would get away from it.
But I think there is a real head of steam building against this real tyranny, this tyranny of opinion under which we all live.
I don't think we're going to get anything out of this damp squib of a president we have.
All we're going to get is hot air from him.
But there are already laws introduced in the state houses of Texas and California that might Make a difference on these matters.
The fact is, though, I think the very best news for our people comes out of Europe.
I wish I could say that it came right out of the United States of America, but Europe is, I think, where the real signs of awakening are clearest.
Now, just as a matter of introduction, were you all aware that in 2012 the European Union got the Nobel Peace Prize?
I can just imagine these Eurocrats sitting there like self-satisfied rats congratulating themselves on how wonderful they are, this effective suicide pact that they've put together, and these Nobel bureaucrats hovering over them and celebrating Nobel Peace Prize for the European Union.
Good grief.
And it makes you understand perfectly why it is that 72% of Italians And 78% of Frenchmen feel that, quote, traditional politicians don't care about people like me.
Well, they just don't.
They don't care.
They slap each other on the back, give each other rewards, and give their countries away to foreigners.
Well, of course, we have a dissident movement within Europe.
We had an earlier mention, Mr. Le Galou talked about Hungary, Victor Orban.
I'd say he's about my favorite politician these days.
Ever since 2010, he keeps getting re-elected by people who want Hungary to stay Hungarian.
Just the other day, he said, if we don't fight the liberal empire, which is the European Union, Europe will no longer belong to Europeans.
My sentiment, precisely.
And just the other day, his foreign minister, Peter Szyarto, he was speaking not only on behalf of himself, but for Poland and the Czech Republic as well.
He said, We would never accept any change in the composition of the population of the European continent.
Europe is a Christian continent.
Well said.
In the Netherlands, in the Netherlands, a brand new party called the Forum for Democracy, it first ran candidates in 2017.
And just two years later, in the regional elections, it came in number one, absolute number one.
And during the campaign, do you know what the ugliest, nastiest dirt they had to throw at Thierry Baudet was?
It was the fact that he is known to have had dinner, an extended three-hour dinner, with a very, very wicked American by the name of Jared Taylor.
Thank you.
Now, even if he were thoroughly one of us, I would not say so in public.
All I will say is this.
I am delighted that Thierry Baudet is the head of the political party that got the most votes in the latest elections.
Spain, another brand new party.
Mr. Lagaloo mentioned Vox also.
It's led by a fellow by the name of Santiago Abascal.
Openly identitarian.
Absolutely openly identitarian.
You know, Spain has these enclaves in Morocco, Melilla and Ceuta, and you've probably seen videos of Africans climbing over the fences, and once they set foot in one of those enclaves, they can claim asylum, et cetera, et cetera.
Well, Santiago Abascal says we need to build a wall around those enclaves and get Morocco to pay for it.
Well, let's hope he sticks to his guns.
He wants to expel every last illegal immigrant.
And in the 2019 elections, they ended up with 24 members in parliament.
Now, the Congress is 350 seats.
24 is certainly not a blocking majority.
But this is in a country that, from an identitarian point of view, seemed to have been fast asleep.
And so we have a brand new party that has surged into parliament and getting more and more popular all the time.
Estonia. There's a party known as the Conservative People's Party of Estonia, again founded in 2012, another brand new party.
In the most recent elections, 2019, they did so well that they're now in coalition government.
They are helping run Estonia, an EU member.
And their finance minister, 48-year-old Martin Helm, he has a very simple and straightforward idea about immigration.
He says, our immigration policy should have one simple rule.
If they're black, Send them back.
And it's all very straightforward to him.
He says, I want Estonia to be a white country.
Now, this is a guy who just the other day took his place with all the other EU ministers of economics, and he is sitting around the table where decisions are made and people are exercising power.
Now, something else about The People's Party of Estonia.
You who were here in 2016, you probably heard the talk given by Ruben Kellep.
He was the leader of the youth wing of this People's Party.
In the latest elections, Ruben Kellep became a member of parliament.
So there is life after Amran.
The astonishing thing about this is America claims to be this wonderful democracy.
We are a beacon of the world.
We don't have a system that lets these brand new parties reflect the changing will of the people.
We have these two clapped-out, doddering old parties that monopolize the political situation in a way that makes it almost impossible for a new party to emerge.
But in Europe, with the parliamentary system and where they have a real democratic representation of what the people want, we see these remarkable changes.
Denmark. There was a recent headline in The Guardian.
Mete Fredricksen, the anti-immigration left leader, set to win power in Denmark.
The elections are June 5, coming right up.
Keep an eye on Denmark.
So this is a social democrat, a lefty, but anti-immigrant.
And if she's elected, she would be the youngest prime minister.
Ever elected in Denmark.
She says things like this.
The price of unregulated globalization, mass immigration, and the free movement of labor is paid for by the lower classes.
She is returning to the real, original, leftist conception of helping the disadvantaged and the poor of your own country.
As you know, the whole left has been hijacked.
They had a brand new proletariat.
Their pets were no longer the working class, but their pets was everybody who was non-white.
Here we have a leftist who's going back to the traditional roots and she says that not only is she going to help her working class and less advantaged people, on the subject of repatriate, on the subject of asylum seeking, she says our goal is not integration,
It's repatriation.
And... APPLAUSE Thank you.
And when she was asked, were there any points on which she would compromise?
She said, sure, everything is up for compromise, except immigration.
And this is a leftist.
This is a leftist.
This is baffling to all the people who, whenever you say, I want France to remain French, you're extreme right, or you're fascist.
No, you don't have to be extreme anything.
All you have to be is a nationalist.
That is the main thing we need to preserve, and all the other political differences are secondary.
So I'm delighted to see a leftist who's likely to take power in Denmark who says the purpose of our asylum policy is repatriation.
Excellent. Now, in the European elections, just next week, pollsters have found that the top three items of concern for the European electorate are, number one, Islamic radicalization, And then number two and three are shared,
the economy, and immigration.
So in effect, the top two, because you don't get Islamic radicalization without immigration, those two out of three of the top concerns have to do with immigration.
And as Mr. Ghalil was pointing out, of the 751 Euro MPs, we may end up with as many as 200 or 250 who are skeptical of Europe, skeptical of immigration, which is a huge change.
From, as he said, the time when he was a Euro deputy, when they only had 13 people who saw things clearly.
This is a huge change.
And then to talk about perhaps my second most favorite European politician, Matteo Salvini.
Matteo Salvini.
He's the guy who was talking about immigrants who wanted to swarm across the Mediterranean and come live in Italy.
He says the only Italy they're ever going to see is a picture on a postcard.
And he has been boasting about the fact that he has turned the tide.
Now they are sending people back at a more rapid rate than they're coming in.
Matias Aldo.
Matias Aldo.
He has set up what's going to be, I hope, a very influential parliamentary group within the European Parliament.
It could be the third or fourth largest.
And these parliamentary groups have a lot of influence in how things work.
This is very encouraging.
And then, in Britain, Nigel Farage's Brexit party, they're likely to come in number one in the Euro elections.
They should have more delegates than Labour and Tories combined.
Now, Nigel Farage is not entirely one of us.
But he is the best option available.
And it's gratifying to me that even in Britain, things are moving in our direction.
Finally, the last point to make.
In Finland, the Finns party, they too could be number one in the Euro elections.
And in 2015, on a trip to Russia, I met some of these Finns.
And I have no hesitation in telling you, they are entirely people like us.
They are staunch lads.
Finland for the Finns.
And the fact that they are likely becoming number one is very, very encouraging, too.
Now, as I say, I wish I could have similarly good news about the United States.
But remember, some of you are old enough to remember the Cold War.
And during the Cold War, there were dissidents.
Dissidents in these Eastern European countries in the Soviet Union who realized that life wasn't exactly perfect.
Now, they had a model for something that was different.
The fact that things were different in the West was hugely important for them.
They could point to countries that did not have a command economy.
They could point to countries where there was not persistent government censorship.
And this was hugely important to them, both from a position of morale and from a point of view of getting support.
It is hugely important for us that there be countries that we can point to.
That are self-consciously European, that are determined to remain European, and who will not be displaying the kind of characteristics that increasingly are paralyzing any kind of progress in the West.
It's vitally important to have them in the EU.
It's vitally important to point to countries where, no, they don't have to guard a Christmas market in Budapest the way they do in any German city.
They don't have to have people patrolling their national monuments the way they have to do in France because they are European.
The fact that we have countries that are, in a sense, models, I believe, is hugely important for us.
Finally, another reason for my great optimism is the quality of the people in our movement.
I've been knocking around this end of the political spectrum for nigh on 30 years.
And when I first got into the movement, The folks that were active in it were, well, let's see, I used to describe them as funny-looking people in ill-fitting clothes.
And, in fact, 30, 35 years ago, in order to be a real racial dissident, you had to be something of a crank, a bit of a weirdo.
You had to be a little bit, well, profoundly out of step, really, with your society to actually take the trouble to get any racially dissident literature, to find out what was going on.
That was a different era, before the Internet.
Now, it is so much easier.
Now, what we have in our ranks are not the kind we used to.
You know, you'd have a meeting of people, and you'd say, boy, that guy must have slept in his clothes.
That guy's obviously never had a girlfriend.
And if you ever had press...
You know, they could just zero in on the guy who was going to tell them, yeah, the Queen of England made all her money pushing drugs, and the moon landing was a whole hoax.
You think, oh my God.
No, they were strange people.
Now, they've gone.
I don't know where they've gone, but they're gone.
And I'm delighted that they're not gone.
And the people that we have now are attractive, smart, successful, hardworking, young.
And they give me a great deal of confidence.
And when the time comes...
And all of us leftovers from the Baby Doer Movement generation, Sam Dixon, myself, and Martin O'Toole, and Greg, when we are put out to pasture, then I am sure that our movement will be in excellent hands, and that, too, is a great source of optimism and encouragement to me.
Then...
In a sense, you're applauding for yourselves, and I heartily recommend that.
The other thing is that the battle lines are increasingly clear.
We have people who are openly talking about abolishing ICE.
That means just throwing open the borders.
Abolish ICE.
People talking about reparations.
And the left has made everything racial.
Everything is racial.
White privilege, white guilt, only whites can be racist, et cetera, et cetera.
And we have people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
She sees these people massed by caravan, coming by caravan to the border.
And she has the absolute audacity to say that those people who want to come in the country illegally are more American than anybody who doesn't want them in.
These people probably don't speak a lick of English.
Never heard of Thomas Jefferson, but have no idea what's in the Constitution.
They're more American than all of you in this room.
This kind of outrageous talk has got to be getting under the skins of more and more people.
And so, it's very clear the way the left has racialized everything.
We exist objectively.
We exist as an object of contempt.
And hatred for people who do not want us to stay in this country.
The issue then, as Sam Francis, the great Sam Francis, who was my dear friend who passed away in 2005, used to say, yes, we exist objectively because we are an object in the eyes of others.
It is our duty to exist subjectively.
We have to realize who we are and take our own destiny in our hands.
I believe That this struggle for our continued existence, the prosperity and future of our people as Europeans, this is the titanic struggle of our era.
There are some of you in this room who are already veterans in that struggle.
There are many who are going to be faithful in this struggle.
And I believe there are some in this room who will become great as part of this struggle.
And I believe that there will be a place on this continent.
That is exclusively ours.
There will be such a place.
Now, I may not live to set foot in the Promised Land, but I can see it.
I can see it.
Thank you.
I can see it very clearly.
And you know where I see it?
I see it in the brightness of your eyes.
Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
I'll be happy to take some questions if anyone would like to ask.
You and several others have alluded to the digital book burnings occurring, and I don't understand why people from this movement and other movements haven't demanded of Congress to remember there is a Sherman antitrust law.
on the books and it seems to me it's time for Google and Facebook to taste it.
So along with everything else, why don't we ask even a lefty?
So you as a leftist approve of concentrations of wealth.
You as a leftist approve of this market power.
Why don't you join with us and
You know, the trouble is, there are no honest lefties left, it seems.
If they had any real principles, and there used to be.
Honest lefties who believed in freedom of speech.
But now that they have so much power, I think it is next to impossible to find a leftist who says, look, wait a minute, silencing people is not the solution.
They're all delighted to do that.
And in terms of invoking some kind of antitrust or trying to turn some of these huge Silicon Valley oligopolies into regulated industries, I think that is the direction we probably will end up moving.
But I can't swear that that would be the case.
But the outcry about this, I mentioned Michelle Mulliken.
She was on Fox talking about that herself.
This really is going to a point where I believe that some action will end up being taken.
Again, maybe I'm a foolish optimist, but these things have gone to such a length that many people are asking themselves, you just can't run a country this way.
When you have such dominant control over what people are willing to, are able to say, do, even think, you've got to put a stop to it.
And I believe something will be done.
Next person, please.
Thank you.
We make our decisions based on the information we receive.
Yes. And the left now is in the process of shutting down any alternative media.
And I have a request that you either have a speaker or a handout that lists the alternative mediums.
What alternative to Facebook, Twitter, Amazon, and whatever else?
You know, the trouble is that those are such large companies.
Yes, we put our videos on BitChute, for example, but so long as YouTube permits us to put videos there...
That's where they will go because that's where the people are.
It's the same with Gab as opposed to Twitter.
Now, I've always thought that one of the best things the United States President could do if he really wanted to promote alternative media was to shut down his Twitter account and move it to Gab.
All of his 60 million followers would have to go.
But that guy is a disappointment in many ways, and I don't think he would ever do something like that.
He is not going to save us, and those who ever thought that he would are dreaming.
But no, in terms of how do you go about coming up with alternatives to these monstrous companies, I don't have a good answer to that, and I believe that we have to prepare for the day when we really are squashed and have to build up media of our own.
I remember I was being interviewed by a Frenchman, and I was complaining about having been kicked off Amazon, and he says, what do you expect?
What do you expect?
Those people don't like you.
Of course they're going to kick you off.
We have to have our own media.
And that is, of course, what we're up to.
But it's an uphill struggle when the people who dominate are so large.
So we have to work on two fronts.
One is to turn them into regulated entities or break them up.
And the other is to produce our own alternatives.
But I believe my time is up.
I don't want to nibble into our next speaker's time.
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