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Sept. 18, 2019 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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Red Flag Laws for ‘White Nationalists’?
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the 149th episode of Radio Renaissance.
I'm Jared Taylor with American Renaissance, and with me, of course, is Mr. Paul Kersey.
Always glad to have you with us.
And we'd like to start with a subject that is dear to Mr. Kersey's heart.
It's red flag laws.
I think all of our listeners are probably aware of what they're designed to do.
The theory is that you finger the folks who are most likely to commit crimes with weapons and you take their weapons away, even if they're legally owned.
The House Judiciary Committee is now debating a federal red flag law, which would allow what they call issuing extreme risk protection orders.
That's what they're known as.
The theory is that once law enforcement and a judge has determined that someone is a potential danger to himself or others, Even if he owns weapons, then law enforcement will come around and take them away.
Now, it was quite interesting the debate that went on in the House Judiciary Committee that has not yet gone to the floor of the House to be voted on.
But Representative Ken Buck, a Colorado Republican, he pointed out that if you really want to look into the murders in this country, most of them are committed by gang-related people in the inner cities.
One of these inconvenient and awkward little facts.
So he wanted to amend the red flag law that's being debated so that, as he put it, it would allow the issuance of a red flag order against anyone whose name appears in a gang database if there was probable
cause to include that individual in the database.
Fantastic idea.
Makes sense to me.
Makes sense to me.
If the police figure that this person is dangerous enough to put in a gang database and be surveilled, then his weapons should be taken away.
Now, my suspicion is these people probably don't have any legal weapons.
No, they don't have any legal weapons.
Think about Chicago.
Think about Baltimore.
The majority of gun crimes that actually are cleared, turns out that they're illegal Illegally obtained firearms and then these papers the Baltimore Shun and the Chicago Tribune They lament the fact that these guns are procured and quote-unquote red states And then they're flooded in because Illinois, you know, you've got you've got so many red states surrounding, Illinois same thing with Maryland
Yes, well, it'll get to the point where every firearm's got to be treated like a hazardous material cargo and you have to file some sort of flight plan before it goes from one jurisdiction to another.
In any case, this idea I thought was pretty good, but the Democrats, the Democrats were absolutely opposed to this because According to their view, you could be mistakenly be put on one of these gang lists.
As one idiot Democrat said, somebody might just be writing 13 on a piece of paper and have it wrongly identified as an MS-13 gang sign.
Yeah, how often does that happen?
Yeah, that was Jerry Adler, the Judiciary Committee chairman.
Yes, the chairman.
He's, of course, from New York.
Golly!
But as Representative Buck pointed out, no, this situation, police officers are trained.
There are very clearly identifiable signs.
It isn't just one thing.
They go through the whole process to make this happen.
Then, now this is the aspect that is of particular importance and interest to us and to our listeners.
Democrat Representative Eric Swalwell of California.
He said, okay, I'll support your gang list amendment if Buck agreed to include on the list, automatic red flag, individuals affiliated with white nationalism.
What has the press been doing since Donald Trump came down that escalator back in 2015?
They've basically been saying anyone who's a Donald Trump supporter is a quote-unquote white nationalist.
Now I've never... I just... I can't stand that term.
I don't know if I speak for you.
I don't like that term at all.
It doesn't make any sense.
We're Americans.
This is a very inflammatory suggestion by Solwell, who of course has dropped his candidacy.
He was a one Issue, candidate.
And he had virtually no impact on the election.
Of course, Robert Francis O'Rourke has tried to take that baton and now he's of course telling people that, hell yeah, we're going to take care of our 15s.
And of course this language, Mr. Taylor and dear listeners, this is one of the more important stories that we have to pay attention to because we're at a point where any Republican in the eyes of the left and the corporate press is a quote-unquote white nationalist.
But the odd thing is that Representative Ken Buck of Colorado agreed.
He said that would be fine.
But he said the language should include any type of supremacy.
So if anyone can be designated as a black supremacist or a white nationalist, and these people can't tell one from another.
They throw these words around as if they were all identical.
If you are a supremacist, a nationalist, then bye-bye your guns.
Now, the amendment ultimately failed 11 to 21, so if it gets to the House floor, it will not have either a gang affiliation or a white nationalist affiliation as a trigger for a gun confiscation.
One interesting aspect here, and I just want to point out, as you point out, just about every Republican these days can be accused of being a white nationalism by these hopped up, completely superheated Democrats.
And yet, the Republican Ken Buck, he accepted that.
He said, fine, we'll put them in too.
The GOP lawmakers have so far been staunchly opposed to what's called no-fly, no-buy.
What that means is if you're on the no-fly list, the federal no-fly list, Democrats have been trying for a long time to say, okay, those people are not allowed to buy a weapon.
But the Republicans have been opposed to that because they say people might be misidentified.
Now, having read about this and this no-fly, no-buy stuff, I looked into it.
It's interesting, of course, that the GOP types, they were opposed because it might be misidentified and put on the no-fly, no-buy.
The Democrats are worried about gang lists because they're worried about black people, etc.
Black and Hispanic people, they might be mistakenly included.
So, I looked into this no-fly list.
And it's a very, it's just all super sneakery stuff.
You can't even find out how many names are on it.
You can't find out who's on it.
The last leak was from 2013.
And at that time, there were 47,000 people's names on it.
Now, these are people from all around the world.
And at that time, there were approximately 800 U.S.
citizens.
So if you did have a no-fly, no-buy thing, at least using 2013 data, all you'd be talking about is 800 people anyway.
Was that the NSA leak?
I don't recall how that leak came about.
But this is very, very hard.
It's very hard to get a hold of this stuff.
Now, if you're on the no-fly list, you cannot get on a plane in the United States, nor can you get on a plane originating outside the United States that's coming in.
Wow.
Yeah.
They absolutely will not let you get on an airplane.
So those people have literally the worst social credit score imaginable.
Well, at least they're allowed to walk around.
They can walk, but no fly, yes.
Now, there is also something, I found this quite interesting too, there's something called a terrorist watch list.
A terrorist watch list, it's a much longer list.
And as of 2017, there were 1.2 million people on it.
And of this number, about 4,600 are U.S.
citizens or green card holders.
Now, they are not barred from airplanes, but if they want to get on an airplane, they may have to go through extra security because there's some sort of alleged terrorist connection.
Now, you may be happy to learn that thanks to the ACLU, Things are changing for them.
First of all, it is possible for them to buy guns and explosives.
More than 1,400 times between 2004 and 2010, someone on the terrorist watch list applied
to buy a weapon or explosives, and out of that 1,400 times, 1,300 times they succeeded.
So you can be on the terrorist watch list and buy weapons.
They can probably, I bet you any amount of money, they can have Twitter and Facebook accounts too, unlike me.
But I'm worse than being on the terrorist watch list, of course.
I'm far more dangerous.
However, things are changing on the terrorist watch list.
Just this month, there was a ruling by a judge, Anthony Trenga.
of the United States District Court for the Eastern District right here in Virginia.
A suit was brought by the ACLU according to which this it was alleged that the terrorist watch list did not allow for due process because it was not a proper method for being identified that you're on it first of all you may not even know and once you're on how do you get off there's no proper procedure for this.
How could you not applaud that?
Well, I do applaud that.
Exactly.
Yes, I think that's absolutely right.
And what the judge did, he ordered both sides to come up with a remedy that will protect a citizen's constitutional rights while not unduly compromising public safety or national security.
In other words, there are people that you can put on a terrorist watch list.
However, if you're on it, You need to know that you're on it and there has to be some procedure for getting your name off of it.
Now, the government's view is they don't want to even tell people that they're on it because then they'll start acting stealthily.
They want to be able to surveil these people without it being known even who they are.
Now, this is the aspect that you will find particularly interesting.
This suit was bought on behalf of guess whom?
Muslims.
Really?
Of course.
Of course.
If the rights of Muslims are being violated in some way, then the ACLU goes right to bat for them.
If these people had been accused of white nationalism, for example, I feel sure the ACLU couldn't have cared.
I don't think the ACLU has ever defended anyone who has had that moniker attached to them.
Well, that's not necessarily true.
They helped the organizers of the Unite the Right rally.
In Charlottesville, two years ago.
But after the riot ended up with this collision between the demonstrators and the counter-demonstrators, the ACLU officially washed their hands of any suit involving white nationalists, white supremacists, whatever it is.
They've said, we don't care.
You can violate their rights all you like.
We're never going to take one of those cases again.
Well, I appreciate you making that point because I was unaware that that had actually transpired.
Yes, they had helped get the permits.
So, at one point, and you remember, you know, the Nazi march through Skokie that never actually took place.
But the ACLU, this is back in the 1960s.
I don't remember that, by the way.
No, the ACLU had a principled position.
Makes no difference what your views are.
We will support you and you have rights like Americans, just like every other American, even if you're a Nazi.
And the Nazi party was going to march through Skokie because there was supposed to be a lot of Holocaust survivors there.
And the ACLU went to bat for them and got their permits for various reasons.
The march did not take place, but the ACLU was principled and told and went to work for them.
But I don't think, as I say, they've officially washed their hands of probably even including white advocates like me and like you.
We are of no interest to the ACLU.
Our rights don't matter.
And if the Democrats or Republicans seem to agree, The Second Amendment shouldn't apply to anybody who dares say, wait a second, hold up.
And you know, when you think about it, if those, if red flag laws were applied to people retrospectively, probably nobody who fought in the American Revolution or in the American Civil War on either side.
World War I, World War II, probably back to the Gulf War.
That's right.
Vietnam, Korea.
None of those people would be allowed to bear arms.
It's really a declaration of war on all of American history, really, when you say that if someone has a white racial consciousness and thinks the United States should at least allow whites to prefer the company of their own kind and that there's nothing wrong with wanting to live in a white-majority country, If that makes you so reprehensible you're not allowed to own a weapon for self-defense, then boy oh boy, you have written off an enormous majority of the population of the United States, at least historically.
Anyway, moving on to my favorite Attorney General, Eric Holder.
As you know, several Democratic lawmakers and presidential candidates Have condemned the Obama administration recently for actually deporting illegal immigrants.
They're just horrified by this.
You actually deported them?
And Eric Holder, who was Barack Obama's Attorney General, through almost his entire time in office, he defended the policy.
He said the emphasis was on people who had criminal records, people who posed a public safety risk.
Then he went on to say, Democrats have to understand that borders do mean something.
Can you imagine that?
A prominent Democrat saying borders mean something.
Now, he was then asked, does he support this idea that some of the Democrats are floating, namely that border hopping should be decriminalized?
Believe it or not, he said no.
No, I don't think that's right.
Now, the reason he says it might send the wrong signal, just what the wrong signal is, I don't know.
But he says that is one of the tools that the Department of Justice must have, I assume, so that if somebody hops the board and commits a crime, they are already a criminal, or if for some reason they look like they might commit a crime, you've got a gun to their head and you can get rid of them anytime you like.
But I thought it was very interesting that he went on to say That he hoped the field of 2020 Democrat presidential candidates would be, quote, realistic in their proposed policies.
Now, I suspect that he's got two motives here.
One is he doesn't want absolute, looney-tune, moon-calf people running for the Democratic nomination because he wants somebody who can win.
But he probably genuinely feels that way.
I mean, he's a black man, after all.
He's not a Hispanic or an Asian.
He probably, at some level, realizes that all these people swarming in are not good for black people.
And I think, in general, Democrats want to have it both ways.
When the Republicans are in power, they are going to whoop and they're going to holler every time any kind of effective measure is used to stop illegal immigration.
But if they really do have to control the borders themselves, I suspect they will suddenly become more realistic, as in fact Barack Obama was.
But we'll see.
But wait a second, if Eric Holder really cared about black people, wouldn't he be tweeting out,
gosh, congratulations President Trump for having the lowest unemployment rate ever for blacks.
This is so wonderful.
Why don't more and more of those who advocate for blacks, and as you said,
Eric Holder wants to have some semblance of the rule of law and borders.
If what he cares about is at its heart about what's good for blacks,
Wouldn't he be all about Trump then?
Of course, I'm being incredibly facetious here.
If you can't tell that, dear listener, I apologize.
Anybody who ever makes that claim and says, well, this is why blacks are going to come out and support Donald Trump in 2020.
Guys, last week we told you black women, less than 1% of black women support Donald Trump.
That's not a poll that was rigged or anything.
This is where we are.
No, you're asking the impossible to ask Eric Holder to say something complimentary about Donald Trump.
No question about that.
But my suspicion is that in his bones he realizes that to the extent the United States fills up with people who are not white, They're not going to listen to sob stories about slavery for heaven's sake.
They're not going to go along with affirmative action and special handouts and set-asides.
No, the Coalition of the Fringes, Mr. Taylor, Jared, it runs on white guilt.
And as long as the Democrat Party becomes less white and there's white guilt on the right, obviously we know the GOP isn't going to overnight become the white party.
They are, however, going to continue to increase the percentage of the white vote that they get every election, even though they do nothing to deserve it.
Nothing to deserve it.
Where else are white people going to go?
Just sit at home and not vote.
And that's the fear of what could happen in 2020.
However, the Democrats, as soon as white guilt stops being the fuel that propels that people of color coalition, that's when you have the animosity and the acrimony between The Black Coalition, the Hispanic Coalition, and the LGBTQ Coalition.
And it's going to be fascinating to watch.
Yes, it will.
They all have one common enemy.
You and me.
And anyone who looks like us.
And when that enemy fades into irrelevance, they will, of course, want to stomp on our graves and swear at our ghosts.
But it is going to be a real tough thing to keep that coalition together.
But I think you have some good news.
Yeah, you know, one of the stories that we've talked about in the past has been ICE.
They put out wonderful stories on the news tab of their website, and I think this one is important to talk about because A, it shows that they are doing great work, but B, It illustrates the level of interagency cooperation that is required to just track one illegal alien who was accused of homicide in the United States.
Let me just read real quick.
So, on Wednesday, last Wednesday, ICE arrested a three-time deported Mexican man who was wanted on outstanding Who had an outstanding warrant for homicide in Anaheim, California.
Anaheim, of course, that's no longer the home of Walt Disney.
It's a far different Anaheim if you've been there recently.
Now get this, this investigation was conducted by ICE, Enforcement and Removal Operations, ERA, what a cool name that is, in Houston, Texas, in conjunction with the Anaheim Police Department and Orange County District Attorney's Office.
Leopoldo Serrano Vargas, aka Leonel Serrano Vargas and Ricardo Hernandez, so he has multiple aliases.
He's an illegal alien from Mexico of an uncertain age, guesstimates 44 to 46.
He was arrested on September 11th at his residence in Houston for illegally re-entering the USA after having been deported, which is a felony.
Now get this, Serrano Vargas, he's wanted in California for allegedly murdering a Hispanic back in October of 2000.
Now, in December 2006, Vargas illegally entered the U.S.
three times in a span of eight days.
Think about that.
Three times in eight days.
Man, this guy must hop.
Yeah, this is back during the George W. Bush era when George Bush famously said that family values don't stop at the Rio Grande.
So, he was removed to Mexico on December 12th, December 14th, and December 18th of 2006.
Now, he illegally He has, in 2006, he was able to illegally re-enter the U.S.
and has unlawfully remained in the country since then.
So, think about all the leftists who say, gosh, illegals are afraid to come out of the shadows because of this fear.
This guy was in the country for 13 years, illegally.
Probably didn't have a care in the world of being arrested.
The Obama administration didn't fear ICE at all.
Now here's what Patrick Contreras, a field officer director for ICE, said.
said. Quote, for almost two decades, this criminal alien fugitive has gone to tremendous
lengths to avoid detection by law enforcement authorities for his alleged crimes in California.
Our ICE fugitive operations team tracked down and arrested Serrano Vargas, removing a potentially
dangerous criminal alien from our community and ensuring that he will face prosecution
for his alleged crimes. Now just think about though, this is one little story.
All of that manpower.
We've talked before about the Jussie Smollett, how many overtime hours the Chicago Police Department had to put in to investigate this guy.
Think about how much taxpayer money went into this investigation.
You talk about the militarization of the police and You know, libertarians want to talk about, well, gosh, you know, illegal immigrants, it's not a problem.
Just from a state perspective, if you're thinking about what goes in and the costs associated, Jared, with just trying to track down one of these fugitives, and there's the amount of taxpayer money.
It's extraordinary.
And that's just one person.
Well, let's, uh, we'd like to think that with a little bit more wall, they wouldn't even get in.
Whenever I hear these stories about people who've been deported three times, four times, five times, how did they get back in?
That's never part of the story.
How'd they get in?
But anyway, well, very good.
We got this guy, and he'll be put on trial.
Unfortunately, he'll be a guest to the American people, fed, housed, clothed, medicated, probably given, you know, a vocational training before he's finally kicked out.
And this way, because he'll probably be in a federal jail.
Well, I wonder if he'll be in a federal jail.
In any case, he better get a detainer on him when he gets out so he can be deported.
That's all I've got to say.
Well, 25 to 32 million more to go.
Yes.
So, what else have you got for us?
What else have I got?
Well, let's go quick.
The United States Border Patrol Chief, Carla Provost, she released data regarding the number of gang members apprehended by her men and women in her agency during the 29 fiscal year through August.
And according to Provost, the Border Patrol has arrested at least 445 individuals from the notorious MS-13 gang.
Good.
Now, the numbers for other gangs, I've not heard of some of these, maybe some of our listeners are more interested in some of these gangs, but this just shows what they're doing.
The 18th Street Gang, 165 members have been arrested.
Pesas, 82.
Serrano, 68.
The Latin Kings, 21.
Tango Blast, now that's not a movie doing the dance floor, that is a gang, 19.
So, also this past two Tuesdays ago, the feds arrested six illegal immigrants
who were involved in an MS-13 gang violence after they allegedly killed an 18th street gang member
in Towson, Maryland.
Now Towson is, I think it's a suburb of Baltimore, roughly.
Now think about that.
Baltimore, Maryland.
Maryland, which is nowhere near the Mexican border.
You're talking about well over a couple thousand miles.
That's now a border state.
Oh, these guys are everywhere.
They're everywhere.
That's where gang battles are taking place.
Doing the job Americans won't do.
Getting in gang battles on the streets.
Yes, yes.
Now haven't we just tracked down some guys, more Montgomery County malefactors too?
Yes, we have one final update.
We updated you last week that since July 25th there had been eight illegal aliens who had engaged in sexual assault rapes in Montgomery County.
Well now we have to continue to add to that tally with a ninth taking place.
Jose Gomez Gonzalez, an illegal alien from El Salvador, was arrested on September 12th.
For raping a female friend of his in Montgomery County while they were both drunk.
Again, it's at least the ninth undocumented illegal immigrant charged with rape or sex abuse of a minor.
And that's the important thing in Montgomery County, Maryland since July 25th.
You'd think the Montgomery County of Maryland people would wake up to what's going on.
And I understand that there are some movement, there's some rumblings that they might start cooperating with ICE after all.
But we'll see.
Well, there are.
And real quickly, the County Executive Kevin Lewis has agreed to notify ICE if Gomez Gonzalez is released, but will not hold him for any extra time for them to arrive and pick him up.
So, we will agree, but there's a caveat.
Sorry.
Boy.
You know, the people of Montgomery County must be up in arms about this, or they would be if they knew about it.
Hear this malfactor.
Nobody wants him around, and the best they can do is say, we'll let you know when we're going to turn him loose, but we ain't going to hold him for one extra minute if you happen to be late.
Well, the heroic Michelle Malkin held a protest last week in Montgomery County against its sanctuary policies, and I applaud her.
She's got a new book out, which I recommend all of our listeners go take a look at.
I think it's called Open Borders, Inc.
She says a lot of great things about dissidents, some of those who would be labeled, you know, white nationalists and have potentially red flag laws used against them.
So, Michelle Malkin, she's fantastic, and keep up your great work.
Well, on this subject of getting rid of illegal aliens who have committed crimes, sometimes the federal government's most dogged and determined opponents are local judges.
Our listeners with long memories will remember when we talked about Judge Shelley Joseph.
She is a Boston judge and it had to do with the 2018 case of an illegal immigrant named Jose Medina Perez.
He had been a fugitive from justice in Pennsylvania and he was wanted for narcotics possession and fingerprints.
Fingerprint records show that he'd been previously deported twice in the United States.
Now, Medina Perez was arrested in March 2018 and had a court date with Judge Shelley Joseph.
And there was an ICE officer waiting to pick him up just as soon as he left the court, no matter what.
Well, Judge Joseph had the court clerk tell the ICE officer to wait outside the courtroom.
He obligingly left the courtroom, and while he was gone, she consulted with his lawyers, and she said, hmm, they're probably going to pick him up if we let him out, aren't they?
Yes, they are.
She says she claims that ICE might have misidentified him and they were afraid that ICE might arrest the wrong person.
So what did she do?
She let Mr. Medina Perez out the back door.
Completely thwarting the efforts of Ice Guy, who had, as I say, very obligingly left the courtroom.
Well, this was not considered rather very sporting by the state of Massachusetts.
Judge Joseph was suspended without pay and later indicted.
For a conspiracy to obstruct justice.
I think that is a remarkable and wonderful thing.
She was suspended without pay for a while, although her $184,000 salary has been reinstated.
But she has moved to dismiss the charges against her.
Now...
The reason Judge Joseph is back in the news is that the ACLU, those lovely people, just submitted an amicus brief on her behalf, in which she's asking the charges be dropped.
The amicus brief represents 61 retired Massachusetts judges, and according to their brief, any help that Judge Joseph gave to this illegal immigrant was a reasonable way to ensure that her courtroom functioned fairly.
How many judges again on that amicus brief?
61.
61.
And they go on to say judges sometimes quote, tailor the courthouse environment to the goal of neutral justice.
Neutral justice means letting this guy escape They went on to say, and I'm quoting from their amicus brief, "...occasionally frustrating the expectations of the executive branch is a core function of an independent judiciary."
Well, that is true.
That is true.
If they determine that the executive is breaking the law.
But what Judge Joseph determined here is that the way they were handling their procedure might not be right.
It's their job to go through things very carefully, hear both sides, and determine, well, the law requires this.
Sorry, executive branch, you violated the law.
Yeah, to be fair and impartial.
Yeah.
It is not their job to second-guess the federal government and say, we don't like, we think you're going about it, you might have gotten it wrong, and so we're not even going to ask you.
Open the door.
Open the door for it.
Open the back door!
And out goes a no doubt delighted Jose Medina Perez.
And she got 61 retired judges to agree with us.
Now, America is full of surprises, I must say.
Everything's legal.
Everything's illegal in Massachusetts, except the illegals.
Well, we will see.
We'll see what happens with her.
I just hope that she goes to the slammer.
And I hope she meets up with some of these lovely people that she thinks that we really need in America.
I hope there'll be some nice, illegal Latinas there who really make life pleasant for her.
In any case, the next article we want to talk about appeared in an interview.
It is by a fellow named Chanda Chisala.
He's a Zambian, by the way, who studied in Stanford.
And it's a quite interesting article about the intelligence of Asians.
As we all know, there's a high-profile lawsuit brought by American East Asians against Harvard because, like so many other universities, it appears to discriminate against Asian applicants if all you're talking about is sort of objective scores, test scores, and grades, etc.
And the way that Harvard justifies not letting them in on test scores is they give them low scores on personality.
That they don't have leadership characteristics, etc.
Well, what this Chanda Chisla writes is that he believes East Asians develop their intelligence at a faster rate than people of other races.
Therefore, they reach their full mental capacity much earlier than other folks.
However, this Zambian believes that white Americans catch up and then overtake them.
The point is, this early development of intelligence among East Asians Gives them a leg up when it comes to academic subjects and intelligence tests and access to elite schools, elite universities, and gifted programs.
So what happens is, these schools admit a large proportion of high-scoring Asians expecting them to be the future intellectual leaders of society, but According to Chisala, by the time they're adults, and despite these high-powered educational advantages, they just end up being more or less normal.
Normal achievers.
A very interesting theory.
And as Shesella points out, the most test-based meritocratic university in America is probably the California Institute of Technology.
They are famous for admitting people strictly on the basis of test scores, and it happens to have one of the highest populations of Asians of any university. 43%.
Now, according to Chisala, documents that came to light from Harvard in context of this suit that's being brought by the Asians revealed that if Harvard admitted strictly according to test scores, grades, etc., 43% of Harvard would be Asian, as opposed to about, I think it's about 25% now, maybe 25, 30, they'd be 43%.
And the classic case as well is Stuyvesant High School in New York City, of which our listeners are no doubt familiar.
They, too, are famous for using nothing but test scores.
That's the only way to get in.
You have to score the top in the city.
Although Asians are only 15% of New York's population, they are 74% of the Stuyvesant students.
15% versus 74%.
of the Stuyvesant students. 15% versus 74%. Now, Csikszentmihalyi goes on to make the point that
many Asians point to how well they do on tests, that they go to these hot shot schools, but they
don't end up being the kind of hot shot leaders in the country at the rate that they think they deserve.
And they start talking about the bamboo ceiling.
There's a glass ceiling, a bamboo ceiling, who knows what else.
Maybe there's be, what, a jumping bean ceiling for Mexicans.
I've never heard the term bamboo ceiling.
This is the bamboo ceiling.
Does that do to pandas, I guess?
What's that?
Is that because pandas like bamboo?
No, no, because Asians, you know, Asians live in places where they grow bamboo, you know.
The bamboo ceiling.
But Chisala points out, you know, there's no conspiracy against them.
If they were real hotshot performers, people who were looking to the bottom line, they'd hire them, they'd promote them.
But by the time you are middle management or senior management, you've gotten along a little bit in years, and the white people have ended up surpassing them in intelligence and capacity.
Pretty doggone interesting.
As he points out in his article, which is again a fascinating article in the UN's review, which is full of very interesting stuff, at Caltech itself, the ratio of East Asian professors is much less than the Asian ratio of undergraduate students.
Only 7 or 8% of the professors are Asian, despite the fact that 43% of the students there are.
And he suggests this is because Asians have this flash of ability, and they mature more rapidly, but they just don't perform as they get older.
You know, there's a converse to that, and that is why You see so many of the top level recruits from high school in basketball and football as they're black, because blacks physically mature faster than whites.
That's right.
That's right.
And interestingly enough, Asians are the ones who mature the most slowly.
You're talking about physically?
Physically, yes.
Physically, they mature slowly, but according to this guy, this theory, I had heard suggestions about this before, that Asians may just become brainy earlier, but in the long term, they're not as brainy as they appear when they're 12 years old, 16 years old, 18 years old.
And, of course, the common approach to the East Asian creativity problem, because many East Asians themselves will say, look, we don't win Nobel Prizes.
We are not the people who make the great breakthroughs.
We're good at incremental improvement, but we're not the ones who invented the transistor.
We're not the ones who invented AI.
We tinker with it once white people invent it, but we don't come up with these great breakthroughs.
But The fact is, and they say, well, the problem is the Asian education system or there's culture of some kind, but the fact is the pattern holds even for Asians born and bred in the West.
They can have lived all their lives here, but they don't have that spark of creativity that we expect really brainy people and a certain number of white people to have.
As our listeners know, I spent a lot of time in Japan.
Up until a few years ago, when I was still considered a respectable consultant in the Japan business, before my notoriety as a wicked white advocate made this kind of work impossible for me, I spent a lot of time in Japan.
There was a time when I was going to Japan probably once every couple of months, maybe five or six times a year.
My theory always was that, yes, the Asians probably do have a higher average, but I just don't think their standard deviation is as great.
Because I've met some Europeans who just are super impressive intellectually.
You can be in the presence of a guy who clearly has a superior brain.
I've almost never met a Japanese that gave me that impression, even though I've met top executives, high-powered lawyers.
You just almost never meet a Japanese person of whom you think, wow!
What a smart guy!
And at the same time, you rarely meet a Japanese person of whom you think, what a lame brain!
And I'll tell you this story.
I've told this story in other contexts.
In the United States, you see people living in cardboard boxes or under bridges.
Chances are they can't read.
A lot of them are going to be illiterate.
In Japan, you don't see too many people living in cardboard boxes, but if you happen to look in their little cardboard house, chances are they've scrounged up a copy of the Japanese equivalent of the Wall Street Journal or something, and they're reading away.
And no matter how lowly the job, if you ask a Japanese person a reasonably complicated question, you get good answers.
You don't get this sort of Open mouth.
Deer in headlights stare.
Yes, yes.
So I've always thought the stupid people are not as stupid and the smart people are not as smart, but it may be that they get as smart as they get earlier than white people.
It's an interesting theory.
Let me ask you a question that I'm sure a few of our listeners are jumping out of their seats to say, ask this, ask this.
Who is that one person that you've been in their presence before Doesn't matter what race they were, but who was that one person that you were just blown away by their cognitive ability?
Oh, I think I will keep confidence on these matters.
Okay.
I think that is wiser.
It is wiser that these people not know that I've been in their presence and was in a position to admire their high-powered braininess.
So, sorry, if I thought that that information was legitimate to be distributed around the world, I would have said so.
So, you may hop up and down and ask, but you get no answer.
Moving on to a different assessment of characteristics, national characteristics, a very interesting study was done that tested a form of honesty all around the world.
And what they did, they had people who traveled, oh, there are thousands of people Or than that, not thousands of people.
They dropped wallets in cities.
Thousands of wallets in cities all around the world.
It must have been a lot of fun traveling around the world and drop wallets.
Heck of a gig!
Heck of a gig!
And these wallets had business cards with phone and email on them.
And they also had a grocery list written in local language and other stuff to make it look like a real wallet.
Not just some experimental hyped up thing.
And also a key.
Now, some wallets had all of this and then money as well.
Okay, some currency.
Currency as well as a key and other stuff fluffed up to make it look like a real wallet.
And it wasn't a huge amount of money.
Usually about 15 bucks in local currency or depending on the country they put in more depending on the standard of living.
So, and they counted the percentage of wallets that were a return to owner.
Okay.
Because it was very easy, a phone number, address, you know, business card.
So, now here is the list by nation.
And believe it or not, I don't think you'll have to find this hard to believe, Switzerland was absolute top.
I don't believe it!
Shocking!
Well, but the fact is, I think if Japan, Japan's not on this list.
I'm a little bit surprised.
Japan is not on it.
Korea is not.
There must be about 40 different countries here.
China is on it, by the way.
Where did China fall?
Smack at the bottom.
You're least likely to get your wallet back if you lose in China.
But I'll read you out the top countries here.
Most likely.
I mean, close to 80%.
You're going to get your wallet close to 80% of the time if you lose it in Switzerland, Norway, Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden.
Poland's pretty good, too.
Czech Republic, New Zealand.
Those are right at the top of the list.
Those are the best, okay.
Yes.
And then Germany does pretty well.
Then we're sort of sliding down the road.
Serbia, Australia, Croatia is pretty good.
Spain, Russia.
You notice the United States has not yet shown up.
You've not said U.S.?
No, we haven't.
No, no.
In the United States, there's a big gap depending on whether there's money in it.
If there's money in it, the chances are you get 60% of the time you get it back.
But if there's no money in it, you only get it back 35% of the time.
I guess people think, who needs that key?
I guess they don't think they'll get a reward.
Maybe that's it.
Maybe that's it.
If they turn back in with a full wallet.
There's that famous commercial.
I know you don't watch TV, but a few years ago, it was a white guy walking and he drops a $20 bill.
And this menacing looking black guy picks it up.
And walks up toward him and the white guy, you can tell he's sort of hesitant.
He's like, why is this guy approaching me?
Why is this guy approaching me?
That's what you can tell he's thinking.
And all of a sudden the black guy puts his hand out to give him the $20 that he had dropped.
And then the commercial ends with the white guy obviously looking down at the $20, questioning how he had thought about his white privilege and his implicit bias.
And then he walks toward the black guy to give him the $20 that he had found on the ground.
Oh, he rewards him.
He gives him all the money.
Exactly.
Well, that just makes everybody feel wonderful, doesn't it?
It's all about conditioning the viewer of that commercial to think about their implicit bias and what they would have done in that scenario.
Yes, yes.
But moving on down the line here, the UK is about at the level of the United States.
Then we keep going down Greece, Italy, Chile, Brazil, it's kind of dodgy, South Africa, then interestingly enough, Thailand.
I mean, I would have no initial sense of whether the ties would be honest, but not very.
Mexico is pretty low.
Your chances of getting your wallet back are about 20%.
20%?
20%.
One in five.
Yeah, yeah.
But I mean, that's better than nothing.
That's Mexico.
Then Turkey, Ghana, Indonesia, United Arab Emirates.
Hmm.
Yeah, they're apparently not very good.
Malaysia, Kenya, we're really hitting the bottom now.
Kazakhstan, Peru.
Morocco, and then China dead last.
China's dead last.
Now, this is quite fascinating, and I thought it was intriguing that these people actually published this.
It's a heavily Eurocentric list, so they didn't go to a lot of the countries in Africa or in South America, it sounds like.
That's correct.
That's correct.
They're not even on here.
And, as I say, they didn't do it in Hong Kong, they didn't in Korea, didn't do it in Taiwan.
I think Hong Kong strikes me as a little dodgy, but I bet Japan, Korea, Taiwan, I bet you a good chance you'd get your wallet back.
Now, one of the classic things people say about Japan is that the Japanese will leave a wallet where they find it, expecting you to come back looking for it.
That that's the most convenient way to get it to you.
Especially if there's nothing identifying in it, you know?
If you don't have a business card in it, they'll say, well, you might come back.
So yeah, we'll just leave it there.
Very honest.
But another question about South Africa.
This is, as I think we covered this maybe just in the previous episode, but they weren't enjoying diversity now.
No, they're not.
No.
Episode 148.
148.
The black South Africans were rioting because other blacks were coming from other countries.
And it all started when a South African truck driver was shot dead by a drug dealer who was from some other country.
And boy, they went on the rampage and started killing people.
A black South African who lives in Paris, he got on a live feed and he started urging people.
He says, look, if you want to do xenophobia right, you kill white people.
Or you kill Chinese people, kill Asian people.
He said, don't kill your brother.
We are all black.
If you're going to be xenophobic, start killing white people instead.
Now, in this Twitter live stream, he got all sorts of favorable comments.
And the guy was actually in Paris, and you could see behind him, there's this group of blacks who are cheering and clapping, kill white people, kill white people.
Just an example of the kind of affection that they hold for us.
But I think even more significant, perhaps, is the leader of Black First Land First.
That is the more radical party in South Africa called BLF.
And this guy does have a name that, you know, I'm always sort of coaching you on how to pronounce some of these names.
I confess, I did not know how to begin to pronounce this guy's name.
His first name is Andiel, A-N-D-I-L-E, but the first letters of his last name are M-N-G-X-I-T.
Well, Mungzitama or something, in any case.
Andiel.
He was commenting on all of these attacks on foreigners in South Africa, and then he said, One day, we will turn it against whites.
Just you watch.
The current apocalyptic scenes of charred buildings and motorcycles eaten by fire is a mere dress rehearsal of an eventuality that is awaiting white South Africa.
The dress rehearsal is almost done.
The time when the show will be staged in a larger theater is imminent.
Terrifying.
Rather poetic, too.
Well, I'm not going to give Mr., whatever his surname is, the benefit of the doubt because that was... Mingzitama.
That was terrifying.
Yes, yes.
He says, we're just warming up, fellas.
A dress rehearsal.
We're just warming up, yes.
And not to be outdone, Julius Malema of the EFF, the Economic Freedom Front, who has been one of the great proponents of expropriation of land without compensation, he was a little bit more subtle about it.
He called on black South Africans to redirect their anger at white monopoly capital.
Those are the people you should be attacking, burning down, and murdering, not blacks from outside the country.
Well, let's think about this.
This leader of this party you mentioned that is far more radical than the ANC, the youth ANC wing.
He says that this is a mere dress rehearsal.
Just think how many understudies exist for him.
That's the really A tragic situation that white South Africans, which unfortunately the fate of white South Africa, is a dress rehearsal for the fate of white America, for the fate of white Britain, for the fate of white French, for the fate of white Germans, white Brazilians.
It depends on who is displacing us.
I think the white South Africans face the worst possibilities because they're being displaced overwhelmingly and uniformly by Africans.
If we're displaced by Chinese, for example, it ain't gonna be fun, but I think it would be rather different.
Well, it's definitely not fun for white people in Vancouver right now.
No, but I don't think that the Chinese there are talking about someday apocalyptic scenes of charred buildings.
I don't think the Chinese are saying that about white people in Vancouver.
And I don't think they will.
No, it's no fun, but you can not have fun in a variety of different ways.
I can envision a few Chinese generals right now in some high-level meetings having conversations about this diversity, which is going to create those charred buildings as we've seen so often in urban American settings over the past 30, 40, 50, 60 years, knowing that they don't have to fire a shot.
They don't have to waste one single munition or one Chinese life to overtake the U.S.
They'll just walk in, put out the fires, and it'll be theirs.
Well, I did want to add we have similar sentiments being expressed this week by Jesse Akene Nweke Konable.
This is a Nigerian-born rapper who came to Sweden in 2008 and now has Swedish citizenship.
He has a private Instagram account called Barasvarta, meaning blacks only.
Only blacks can sign up for his Instagram and it has slogans like black power in Sweden and fuck white people.
His English is pretty good when it comes to four-letter words.
Well, lately in a message to blacks living in Europe, he said, one beautiful day, We will become number one.
We will take over these whites.
So as these whites took us as slaves, we should take them as slaves and treat them even worse.
We'll take their bitches, meaning their women, we'll take their money, and if any white guy is trying to talk shit about you, shoot him.
So that is what he is urging his private Instagram followers to do.
Sweden has no history of colonization in Africa.
No.
No slavery, right?
No, none of that.
None of that.
Okay, just curious.
But they're white, you see.
They suffer from this congenital defect of whiteness.
Melanin deficiency.
But this guy, he's got a YouTube channel with 280,000 subscribers.
A lot of followers.
Like I said, a lot of understudies out there for this.
You're talking about this dress rehearsal.
A lot of understudies.
And I checked today, and his channel is still going strong.
Okay.
The autoplay video is called... It's got an English title, although he raps in Swedish.
The English title is called, I'm the Shit.
Okay.
And his YouTube channel is running advertisements, so he's making money off his 280,000 subscribers.
But, you know, I guess those 10,000 employees at YouTube just don't have time to... They overlooked it.
They overlooked his channel.
That's the only plausible explanation for why I think this anti-white rhetoric is still up.
Gosh, we are running out of time, but I really want to work in Bernie Sanders.
Please.
Bernie Sanders.
He was at a town hall meeting in New York City.
He was asked about the connection between population growth and climate change.
And he said there is a connection.
And let me quote.
He says the answer has everything to do with the fact that women in the United States of America, by the way, have a right to control their own bodies and make reproductive decisions.
He talked about the Mexico City Agreement that denies American aid to organizations that fund abortions.
And so he says, I think, especially in poor countries where they can have the opportunity through birth control
to control the number of kids they have, it's something I very, very strongly support
as a measure to control global warming.
People have got something to do with it.
Well, poor Bernie.
He's being attacked from right and from the left.
From being eugenicist, right?
That's right.
CNN host S.E.
Cupp, whom I've never heard of, accused Sanders of entertaining the racist ideology of eugenics.
All he's saying is, let them have access to birth control.
The horror!
How dare prophylactics be utilized by anyone but white people?
And then, conservative commentator Ben Shapiro tweeted that Mr. Sanders wanted to facilitate abortions for, quote, disproportionately babies of color in order to fight climate change.
What a wicked racist.
All he's saying is, again, if you're having six children per woman in your country and you want to have fewer, let them have access to birth control and maybe even fund voluntary abortion.
But then, of course, Steve Scalise, Louisiana Republican congressman, tweeted, Bernie Sanders said your tax dollars should be used to fund abortions in foreign countries.
Boy, oh boy.
You know, I don't often sympathize with Bernie, but this time I sympathize.
I do as well.
Poor Bernie.
But to pretend somehow that population growth has nothing to do with climate change, global warming, if the more people there are, I mean, anyway.
Resources are finite.
Thomas Malthus was not wrong.
No, no, he was certainly not wrong.
The Earth can hold only a certain number of people.
Now, and then I guess we have to finish off with, well, actually before we go to our last story, I did promise that we would answer a question.
Go ahead.
And the question had to do with someone was watching a program that proposed the U.S., this is a white advocate program, that the U.S.
might adopt an IQ test for immigrants so that anyone who wanted to come into the country would have to achieve a relatively high score.
He goes on to say, this could bring in a large number of high IQ non-whites like African doctors, Pakistani computer programmers and Chinese entrepreneurs.
And the question is, is it theoretically possible the US could become a high IQ non-white majority country?
Or will these people regress to the mean after one or two generations?
Well, regressing to the mean would be if they came from Africans, for example.
But if they come from Asian countries, they would regress to a high mean.
Now, this question assumes that the United States is even capable of implementing some kind of IQ screen for immigrants.
You know, if we are going to be displaced, if the land of our ancestors is going to be occupied by people that are utterly unlike us, it would be my preference that they be high IQ.
I don't know if you have a preference.
Maybe it makes no difference to you.
No, and not happening would be my preference, obviously.
Of course.
The question is obviously so wrong because there is no interest in even having this type of conversation, even for our own citizens.
Think about what's happening in New York, what Mayor de Blasio is doing.
That is where the left is going in terms of blindness to science and reason and logic.
And of course, the right is happy.
The right wants to blame fatherless homes.
There's a big piece, I know we're running out of time here, but there was a big op-ed by Walter Williams who blamed, who said, oh, you've got to stop blaming white people for racism.
It's fatherless homes.
Like, oh my God, what?
You know, yes.
Every child, yes.
The nuclear family, it's fantastic.
You're right.
But you know what?
It's not all about that aspect.
It really isn't.
And I think the question is, we always love getting questions, but unfortunately, it's one that it makes absolutely no sense to think that this type of Same policy would be instituted when the exact opposite is happening on a micro level all across the country.
That's right.
It is our professional obligation, if you have a college degree, to completely disbelieve in the reality of IQ.
Except for executions, when low IQ people are supposed to be exempt from execution.
But other than that, IQ just doesn't count.
It's not measurable.
Now, one last announcement.
The Northwest Forum, which is a white antiquity group that gets together in Washington State, is going to have its next meeting on September 28th.
That's a Saturday.
And I will be one of the speakers.
Patrick Casey will be one of the speakers as well.
And it would be great to see some listeners in the Seattle area on September 28th.
Now, to find out about this, you should contact... I will give you the email address And you should contact events at thenorthwestforum.com.
That's events at thenorthwestforum.com.
The Northwest Forum is spelled, as you would imagine, all one word.
But it's events at thenorthwestforum.com.
And they do a certain amount of vetting, so they will inquire whether you've been to one before, whether you have someone to vouch for you, but you can get information.
And it would be great to see some listeners of our podcast.
Well, Episode 149 flew by.
I can't believe an hour is already up.
And for Jared Taylor, this has been Paul Kersey.
Our podcast time is up.
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