Hello ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another edition of Radio Renaissance.
This is Jared Taylor with me in the studio as usual, our indefatigable and indispensable guest, Paul Kersey.
I suppose as far as American Renaissance is concerned, one of the big news items of the week is the fact that American Renaissance got the axe from Twitter.
Now, we had been warned about this.
Everyone knew that on December 18th, Twitter was going to make a clean sweep of what they called offensiveness and hatred and all this other stuff.
And American Renaissance, the American Renaissance Twitter account, and my personal Twitter account both got the axe.
Now, curiously enough, about a month or two earlier, when there was that flap about the blue check sign, the authentication mark, I lost my authentication mark, but American Renaissance did not lose it.
There's a certain inconsistency going on here, but we both got the axe, I think, you know, some of the first accounts to go.
You guys might be the biggest account so far to fall.
I believe I've read where some Black Panther accounts have gone.
There have been a couple of other, you know, so-called thought criminals, dissidents.
Hunter Wallace of Oxnall descent, his account was axed.
And as you noted, you guys did appeal the decision.
And I believe they said their justification for giving both your account and the American Renaissance account the ax was based upon you guys having...
A relationship with...
Their phrase is affiliation with violent extremist groups.
A violent extremist group.
Now, in my case, as an individual, is the violent extremist group I'm affiliated with American Renaissance?
Or in the case of American Renaissance, is it some other group?
I mean, we don't know.
But this to me was a big surprise.
I thought that they were going to come up with something much, much fuzzier about how we are creating a climate of something or inciting something.
Because, of course, you can list Absolute unquestionable facts about racial differences in crime rates, for example, or racial differences in venereal disease rates, things like that.
The CDC does everything out.
They do that all the time. And that could conceivably be construed as creating an environment of hate against the people with the high crime rates.
Correct. That is the kind of thing I thought that they were going to do, but no!
Affiliation with a violent extremist group.
Now, if this were ever to go to court, and it's no secret, I suppose I might as well say that it's something worth thinking about doing, is seeing if what a judge would think about something like this.
I think they'd have a very, very hard time convincing a jury that I or American Renaissance has anything to do with violence at all.
But we'll see.
This is a very surprising development.
Well, this is something, of course, back in 2015 that was attempted to castigate everyone with the Dylann Roof situation.
We remember that, that they investigated him.
And found nothing behind his connections to American Renaissance, the Charlottesville, the disaster that was Charlottesville.
Again, regardless of what's happened afterwards that we've learned about the police malfeasance and just their decision to try and create an environment where they could create Where the police chief even said, who just resigned, by the way, where he said, hey, let him fight.
That way we can say this is an unlawful assembly.
Regardless of what's happened after Charlottesville, no one is going to get their platforms back.
None of these Silicon Valley companies are going to say, hey, our bad for rushing to judgment.
The Republican Party is not going to gather.
Congress is not going to gather and do another vote where they say, well, maybe we're too hasty in denouncing the so-called alt-right and everyone who has ever advocated for white identity.
The whole Twitter situation, why I'm so upset that you guys were knocked off, Never before in human history have you had the ability to interact with the highest individuals of a corporation, of political parties, athletes, celebrities.
Instantaneously as you can with Twitter.
You can jump on there right now and you can send a tweet to LeBron James about how he played in basketball.
If he's on his iPhone and he's scrolling through his mentions, he could see some goober from
the suburbs of Baltimore who's tweeting at him.
He'll never meet him in life, but he can see your tweet and it can impact him emotionally.
He could dog him for the rest of the day.
Now with Jared's account, with American Reasons, you were able to speak and create and develop
this sense of community.
And you had a lot of followers.
About 41,000.
American Renaissance was about 70,000?
All told, the two accounts came to about 74,000.
74,000. Yes.
That's a lot of individuals that you're influencing.
And what's stunning about the arbitrary nature of Twitter's decision, Mr.
Taylor, is how few others have been kicked off thus far.
If you read the stories that have been published, there's been a lot of stories.
Washington Post, USA Today.
This is big news on December 18th.
Yes, it was. You guys are the sacrificial lamb, it seems.
Well, you know, one of the headliners that was indicated as having got the ax for this, Jada Franson person.
She's the Britain First.
And she, of course, became important not so much because of her number of followers, which was relatively small, but because Donald Trump had retweeted this series of three so-called anti-Muslim videos.
But no, she certainly got the axe.
Very high profile. I think the English Defense League guy, Tom Robinson, I think he got the axe too.
I think he's still on. Is he still on?
I'm pretty sure he's still on. But it's all rather helter-skelter and haphazard.
Generation Identity in France got the axe.
That's right. Their primary account.
Tommy Robinson would be a...
Tommy Robinson is probably a scalp that they're going to go for as the female Kate Hopkins, I think, over in England.
She's a journalist. I think that that's a scalp.
To me, the scalp that I think that Twitter will go for is Ann Coulter.
I think that they are going to try and police people by making a...
Here's why I think you got the axe.
I think you get the axe because you are the most sensible, coherent, thoughtful, cogent
commentator on race and identity in the Western world.
And they made an example of you by if this guy can be labeled as having affiliations
with so-called hate groups, yada, yada, yada, terrorists, whatever, they said, we're going
to scare everyone else into lying and into compliance and into acquiescing to our rules
and not going to that level because your Facebook page after Charlottesville also got the axe
And I don't know if anyone who ever shares an AR article I'm not sure that's the case, but I understand that Twitter is doing that.
You cannot post an American Renaissance article, at least not something that goes to the homepage.
You can link to something that goes to one of the inside pages, but apparently you cannot link to the Amran homepage on Twitter.
That's a domain name that they have cast into the outer darkness.
It's been flagged. And that really shows that in our era, in the epic that we live in right now, that Silicon Valley, this goes back to the conversation we had about Trump during his march to the White House, our ideas are winning.
It's not like we're out there trying to spread lies and fake news and misinformation.
We are presenting the facts.
As we have been saying to people, they have to silence us because they can't refute us.
And the reason they can't refute us is because we're right.
Obviously, if what we were saying was so childishly stupid and wrong, there would be no attraction to what we're saying.
It would be obviously incorrect and obviously irrelevant to even the most idiotic, ill-informed followers.
But it's because it's not the case that they have to silence us.
There have been some flattering commentaries to the fact that because what American Renaissance and I were saying were the most civil and the most reasonable of the white advocates, We were, for that reason, the most dangerous and had to be silenced.
Bingo. That's exactly right.
If you're frothing at the mouth and see Hyling and goose-stepping around and calling people bad names, then that's not much of a danger.
But if you're saying sensible things in a civilized way, then you are a danger.
Well, we'll see. Mr. Taylor, for those listening who don't remember what happened in Charlotte, North Carolina, when you tried to have the conference, what was the rationale by the black mayor to keep the conference out of Charlotte?
Well, it wasn't much of rationale at all, just the usual racism, white supremacy.
But he wanted to exert his authority as the deputy mayor of Charlotte to put an all accounts, all points bulletin out to every hotel and motel in the whole area saying, don't host these guys.
That could have been a basis for lawsuit, too, if he had been acting in his official capacity.
But probably you could have said that he was not acting.
He was acting as an individual.
He has a free speech right to do that.
But if he had issued something under mayoral, deputy mayoral station head saying, this is the city of Charlotte saying, you guys don't host this guy, that probably would have been an actionable offense.
Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, no, they just do not want to hear things with which they disagree.
We live in genuinely astonishing times.
Now, if Donald Trump were to be banned, that would be wonderful news.
If Ann Coulter would be banned, that would be terrible for her.
Now, she has over a million followers now.
She has a huge number of followers.
She does. I don't think they would dare ban her.
Of course, what is it? When Milo Yiannopoulos was kicked off, he had, what, 700,000 followers?
Yes. He was well over half a million followers.
Yes. So it's not strictly the numbers that they go by in terms of banning people, but we'll see.
Now, when I contacted a number of journalists and explained that we had been identified as having an affiliation with a violent extremist group, I was hoping that the journalists would then knock on Twitter's door and say, well, what's going on here?
Well, Twitter had a very clever, canned reply.
Every time journalists asked, they said, we do not comment on individual accounts.
So they're giving no explanation.
Here they have this idea of transparency, this idea of upholders of free speech, the world is going to be spanned by all of this instant communication all around.
No. Pure, pure opaqueness when it comes to explaining their rules.
Now, I did see some account of how they said, in our enthusiasm, we may overstep the bounds in a few cases or something like that.
We may make mistakes. So I guess they're leaving open the door to the possibility of restoring some people.
If they have clearly done something stupid or awful.
But we'll just see moving forward.
But my guess is that they will not be restoring anyone unless a judge issues an injunction or some such thing.
But we'll see.
And I think this is only a sign of what's going to happen in the future.
As you know, YouTube has quarantined some of our videos.
My suspicion is that YouTube will take a certain amount of courage from what they see Twitter doing.
Twitter has not come in for any kind of serious criticism for this.
And so, YouTube might decide, well, okay, if those guys think that these guys are associated with violence and extremism, we better knock down their YouTube channel.
I think that's entirely possible.
We have to be prepared for the worst.
Anyway, indeed we continue to live in astonishingly oppressive times.
But I think you were thinking that this was in a way related to another story this week.
A story that is a reflection on the extent to which organized conservatism has certainly not ridden to the rescue of free speech, has it?
Well, if you ever wanted the ultimate metaphor for that great joke of, what do you call a black person at a conservative function?
The keynote speaker.
Well, the other day, the Heritage Foundation, of course, they've been trying to find a new president after the fiasco of Jim DeMint, who had been the president for a number of years.
There was a big brouhaha there, from what I've read.
And they had a woman who had her primary credentials were that she served in the Reagan administration.
She's a black woman who was the head of the search for this new president.
So you have...
Arguably the most important conservatism, Inc.
or just let's just let's get rid of that That name, and let's just call it what you have, arguably the most important conservative lobbyist group in Washington.
I think they're located right by Union Station, big building.
They constantly are hosting congressmen, senators for seminars, for speeches.
Well, you have a woman by the name of Kay Cole James.
She's got her degree from Hampton University.
She was the black female.
She was a long-serving board member of the Heritage Foundation.
She was appointed to try and find the next president.
Mr. Taylor. She managed to find herself.
She did. It must have been a long and arduous search, don't you think?
Well, having on her resume also that she was Director of the U.S. Office of Personnel Management, I guess she knows the best way to manage personnel is to.
Somehow finagle yourself to the top of a search committee and then personally appoint yourself as the president or at least get the board to appoint you because all the images that I saw introducing her that were pictures and video outside the Heritage Foundation, she was surrounded by a monochromatic sea of whiteness and there was this lone black face who will now represent an organization that...
Last time I checked, they had a They had a pretty sizable endowment.
I think it was well over $100 million.
I think that's right.
They've got a lot of money, a lot of power, and a lot of influence.
Outside of what's the tax guy's name, Grover Norquist, I would say Heritage is one of the more important power brokers of so-called conservatism.
Oh, no question about it. No question about it.
Well, I had never heard of Kay Coles James before she got this appointment, so I looked into her a little bit, and I discovered that she had written an article about race relations in which she described her experience in 1961 As one of 26 black students who were assigned to integrate John Chandler Middle School in Richmond, because the schools up until then were segregated, segregated by law, and the segregation was of course supported in practice by the whites.
Now, listen to what she says about this.
I never made it through the packed hallways between classes without at least one white student pricking me with a pin.
Sometimes I was stuck so many times I had to press my dress against my body to keep the red streams from dripping down my legs.
You'd have to be stuck an awful lot with a pin for blood to be streaming down your legs.
And, frankly, Mr.
Kersey, I think she's inventing this.
Well, not only is she probably inventing this anecdote, Mr.
Taylor, but what's interesting about this, she's basically asserting this happened every day.
For a month!
I never made it through.
And you have to ask yourself, wait a second.
Back the trolley up.
Because I saw in some of the articles where she was being interviewed and she was asked, what does this mean being the first black president of the Heritage Foundation?
Not just black president, black female president.
So the Heritage Foundation just knocked off two of the criteria that they can no longer have to worry about the next time they get a president.
Because they've hit that quota, I guess.
But my point is... If this type of barbarism that she's talking about happened, why just now are we hearing about this?
This would have been the impetus back in the early 1960s for a national story.
The national news media would have said, even as we integrate, Look at the type of behavior that these bigots within this middle school are participating in.
And if this were happening, it would be something that you could confirm easily enough.
She has mentioned the school.
She has mentioned the year.
There were 26 other black students.
Some enterprising journalists could find the blacks and the whites and find out if any of this actually happened.
To me, this is one of those absolutely pat stories that so many blacks tell about when they were in school, some white teacher said to them, you, young boy, you are good for the farm.
You have no reason to have aspirations to go to college.
You hear these stories over and over and over again about how all these horrible things happen.
Nobody ever doubts them.
Nobody ever questions them.
Nobody ever tries to verify them.
It's axiomatic that they're true.
And you left off...
One of the interesting quotes here that she said.
And I think this is once again showing that it's as if an education isn't justified.
That an education doesn't really amount to anything unless...
You're doing it. And there's a chance for biosmosis to be around white people and somehow get that white juju.
Because she said it was awful.
And she's referring to being pricked by a pen every day for a month.
She's basically running the gauntlet, is what she's asserting here from white students.
She says, and I quote, it was awful, but it was worth it.
In my own little way, I knew I was fighting for our equal right to a great education.
So again, end quote.
So you read that, it's like, so wait a second, you couldn't get a great education around just black people?
What does that mean? Only whites offer, and being around white children, offer you the chance for a so-called great education?
Of course, of course.
We're running out of white people, of course, but we just have to spread them thinner.
Get that white juju, that white magic.
In any case, but then she goes on to say, and this is sort of the punchline, the general conclusion she wishes to draw, she says, the current system is effectively quarantining poor and minority children in failure factories.
Of course the fault is the failure factories.
You're taking these poor downtrodden children and herding them into failure factories.
Now, why are they failure factories?
Why do you think that is? The idea, of course, is somehow the schools are defective.
I bet you the schools, certainly in Washington, D.C., throughout the country, all of these minority, non-white schools, they've had so much money pumped into them.
Often, the urban schools get more money per capita than the suburban schools.
But they are failure factories because the schools are somehow bad and failing these children.
And this woman is going to be running the number one conservative organization, non-profit in the United States.
Oh, she's going to be pushing for charter schools, for vouchers.
That's going to be the great conservative cause.
This is how we liberate black students from failure factories.
We spread them out. If you just simply point out from an economic perspective, the only reason that white wealth exists is because it's tied to the school systems where there are no non-whites or the non-white population in the school district.
You're talking about maybe less than 5%.
So you're talking about a 95% white school system that all white families, all young white families are searching.
We've got to find a place to live that has good school districts.
That's just a synonym for, we've got to find a school district where all the kids are white.
And if you flood these school districts with voucher holding non-whites and blacks, they're not going to be pricked by pins.
It's the white kids that would be pricked by pins.
What's going to happen is the property value is going to start to drop in these white areas because the quality of the school is going to correlate exactly to the percentage of whites or Asians.
Let's not forget that aspect.
This is terrifying when you think about where conservatism was heading with Trumpism.
Trumpism has supplanted a lot of the goofy moral majority.
Again, we talked about this last week.
The Roy Moore loss is insignificant in the long term.
What that does, it just shows...
And the Ed Gillespie loss.
Ed Gillespie in Virginia.
Here's a guy who was a cookie cutter.
If the Heritage Foundation was pumping out candidates to run for office across the country, you would take a guy like Ed Gillespie, who stands for nothing except whatever white paper comes from the Heritage Foundation, is approved to be regurgitated to the masses.
And he repulsed voters.
He's a guy who tried to run a Trump campaign, but he didn't understand it because he didn't believe it.
What he'd rather do is talk about vouchers, and what he'd rather do is talk about economic empowerment for blacks.
That is what Heritage, in its essence, is all about, minority outreach.
And now they've placed, you know, Kay Coles James, who worked for the Reagan administration.
Oh my gosh. Amazing.
Well, and let's not forget, the Office of Personnel Management, and before that she was on the National Commission on Children, This woman has a B.A. from an admittedly second-rate black college.
She doesn't have a master's or a Ph.D. She hasn't had any policy-making jobs as far as I know.
She seems to me to be utterly unqualified for this particular job.
And yet, of course, her most important qualification is, number one, her race.
And I think somewhat trailing behind is the fact that she's a woman.
Now, tell me this.
Do you think that, all things being equal, contributions and donations to heritage will go up or down as a result?
I was going to ask you a different question on the same token.
I was going to ask you, is the percentage of whites who donate to heritage greater than the percentage of whites or less than the percentage of whites who donate to the New Century Foundation?
Probably very similar.
And I say that in all seriousness. I say that in all seriousness.
I think that You'll see a lot of older whites who still live in this fairytale version of race, this sort of utopian idea that, oh, you know, the failure factors.
You're right. That's exactly it.
But I think a lot of younger whites who have grown up in the age of Trump.
The age of Trump has completely supplanted Whatever conservatism was up to that point, which was largely an irrelevant ideology that wanted to lose with dignity.
You know, National Review, back in May of this year, David French, the chief cuck writer at National Review, was begging Dwayne The Rock Johnson to run for office in 2020 because he's the celebrity we need.
Now, Dwayne Johnson is a guy who has blasted the Under Armour president because he dared to say, hey, Trump is going to be good for business.
He said, how dare you say that?
Because he endorses Under Armour.
Dwayne The Rock Johnson is someone who people believe is a conservative Mr.
Taylor because he spoke at the 2000 RNC convention.
If you go online and you do the clickbait articles, Dwayne The Rock Johnson is one of these non-white celebrities that people claim, oh, he's a Republican.
When in actuality, he's an independent.
He appeared at the Democratic convention that year.
He's done nothing but blast Donald Trump all day.
All the time that he's been in office, blasting him for the travel ban, blasting him for daring to point out that black athletes should stand as opposed to kneel for the national anthem.
Cux-servatives will always double down when they have an opportunity to virtue signal with a non-white, primarily a light-skinned color.
Because if you look at pictures of Kay Cole's James, she's very, very, very light-skinned.
Very light. And, you know...
Cook servers will always virtue signal and always try and find that one non-white that they can push to the front of the organization to say, hey, don't you dare call us racist.
We fired Jason Richwine already.
You didn't answer my question, though.
What's going to happen to contributions?
I think you're going to see larger contributions will stay the same.
The endowments, the people who give $10,000 more.
But I think you're going to see the smaller donations, which have become the bedrock of a lot of these conservative nonprofits.
I think you'll see those start to evaporate.
We'll see. We'll see.
In any case, oh, I believe she was once quoted as saying, I plan to take conservatism to places it's never been.
It's Hey, so did Rand Paul.
He was a Detroit conservative Republican.
So we saw how well that worked out.
Yeah, yeah. Well, okay.
They're going places they've never been.
Well, bye-bye, fellas.
We won't be seeing you there.
But what you're saying about school integration, that leads on to the next piece.
A very interesting article in the Washington Post on December 20th in which they report on an Associated Press analysis of homicide data.
And we've all heard about murder going up across the country.
And what this AP analysis points out is that it is not an across-the-board thing.
Murder in the United States is very concentrated.
And so you can have a city, and St.
Louis is a very interesting example.
It's got a record number of homicides in 2015 and a spike that is continuing by But all of this increase came in just two zip codes, and in seven of the cities' 17 zip codes, homicides fell.
The point they're making here is that all of this deadly violence is concentrated in small areas, not just St.
Louis, but Chicago, also New York City.
All of these, it's very carefully, very tightly concentrated.
And this is the astonishing line.
And I thank you for pointing this article out to me.
It says, the neighborhoods enduring the most violence.
Now, violence sort of breaks over them like a tropical storm.
Enduring the most violence were largely poor and African-American, as were the killers and the victims.
The word killer actually shows up here.
Normally, if there's a story, it's about guns.
You know, these guns sort of go off by themselves.
You know, guns are the problem. But here, we have killers who are poor and African-American.
Fancy that. It's fascinating that they largely concentrated this article on these Rust Belt cities, like Chicago, St.
Louis, Indianapolis. Indianapolis is, I believe, the largest city in the country.
It's got about 850,000 people because they keep trying to merge more of the county with the city.
It was roughly 80% white in 1990.
Mr. Taylor is now 58, 59% white, about 28% black.
It's a very white city, the capital city of Indiana.
It's a beautiful city, and I've been following Indianapolis for a number of years now because it's this fascinating city where roughly 85% of the homicides are committed by blacks, and there's a lot of black on white crime.
The Indianapolis Public Safety Department actually puts out a yearly report where they break down who's committing interracial crime, and invariably, the black on white crime is a significant factor in the number of homicides, and this is obviously something you're not supposed to talk about, St. Louis also. They put the St.
Louis Metropolitan Police Department actually breaks down every homicide by race on their website.
You can go on there right now and look at the 2017 statistics.
And in a lot of the cases, they don't have a suspect just because their clearance rate is so low in homicides.
When I last checked right before Charlottesville, every suspect in homicides in St.
Louis had been black for 2017.
Something like 98% for 2016, 99% for 2015.
St. Louis, Mr. Taylor, is 49% black, 43% white.
So it's not like, you know...
From a per capita standpoint, there is literally no white violent crime in these cities.
And why I thought this story was so powerful is precisely because they pointed out the AP let slip.
Yes, like a tropical storm, they're enduring the violence like you would a torrential downpour or a snowstorm, the inconvenience of it.
But the fact is, it's all intraracial.
Yes. Well, it's largely intraracial.
Blacks killing other blacks.
But of course, occasionally it seeps out in the surrounding community.
Now, one of the points they made about this, the fact that violence of this kind is so carefully concentrated, they say, in some respects, there are advantages.
With less ground to cover, authorities are better able to flood a zone with officers.
Also, they can use these sort of high-tech tools, like the shot spotters.
You know what these things are.
They have listeners in certain parts of the neighborhood, and when a shot is fired, they can triangulate how long it takes to get to this listener, how long it takes to get to this microphone over here.
Aha! That was on the 2400 block of Martin Luther King Avenue.
So off they go, and they know exactly where it was.
Well, it was a shot spotter technology that allowed police in Washington, D.C. to figure out about South Rich, why they were able to get there so quickly.
So, shot spotter is found in all these cities.
It's a fantastic weapon for the police to use to try and increasingly create an atmosphere of safety.
Because you're able to deduce immediately where the shot was fired, get police officers there, especially if you have a cruiser already in the area, you can get them there quickly to try and find the suspect before they can flee off into the dark of the night.
Yes, yes. But you know, I was thinking about this too.
With less ground to cover, the authorities can flood a zone with officers.
Well, of course, what are these zones they're flooding?
They are black neighborhoods.
Correct. Overwhelmingly black neighborhoods.
And so you're going to get more Michael Brown-type confrontation.
You get more Freddie Gray-type confrontations.
The white people who are running the police departments, they're damned if they do, damned if they don't.
If they leave them alone, if they stay out, then they're letting all of this horrible violence just inflict itself on these defenseless blacks.
But if they go in, then they are an occupying army.
They are engaged in racial profiling.
There is just no good way out of this.
We fail to mention also that these poverty-stricken areas where blacks are enduring violence are also food deserts.
Where largely immigrant business owners are setting up shop and they're hiding their employees behind.
Plexiglass. We have to mention this, Mr.
Taylor, because this ties directly with this story.
The city council just voted in Philadelphia 14-3.
They are going to force the owners to take out and phase out the plexiglass by 2021 because of the indignity to African Americans.
I'd like to point out, on October 3rd, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported that Philadelphia
was the first police force in the country to install bulletproof glass on all of their
cruisers.
Every police car in Philadelphia has bulletproof glass.
Don't you think that that inflicts an indignity on everyone they arrest?
Correct. Anyway, I know the Asian Grocers Association or the Asian Association that runs these says, they say this is an explicit attempt to run us out of business.
Who's going to open up shops at that point in these areas?
It's like painting a target in the middle of their foreheads.
No, this is absolutely crazy stuff.
But this is life in our multicultural paradise, which leads us to an interesting bit of research by a fellow named Kyle Rudick.
He is at the University of North Iowa, as I recall, and he has done some academic research on the question of civility.
Now, it took a little bit of work to get through the academic gobbledygook that goes into the stuff that passes for whiteness studies.
What I gathered he's saying is when whites are being civil and well-behaved and polite around non-whites, what it amounts to is this.
First of all, they do not talk about racial questions.
They don't talk about anything sensitive because they're afraid of being accused of racism.
Well, that's no good.
That's no good because this erases the identity of the non-white person.
The non-white person's identity is erased.
This is a racially evasive strategy.
Bad. Now, the other thing that white people do is that they are excessively polite and friendly and nice and sweet to non-whites for the very same reason.
Of course, they don't want to be thought of as a bigot and a bad person, but this is bad, too.
Now, this is where the logic, it seems to me, breaks down.
But when white people are particularly polite and pleasant around non-whites, that is upholding white privilege and white racial power.
Now again, I don't know quite how that works, but that's bad.
So this guy's idea is, he says it is the job of teachers in college to force white people to have these important racial conversations.
You've got to make them stomp on the eggshells.
You've got to make them risk microaggressions.
Make them talk to non-whites.
Only that way can you destroy this white notion of civility and have meaningful conversations and, of course, now he didn't say this in the article, but I'm sure the idea is to open these poor white kids up to the kind of tongue-lashing, the kind of excoriation they're going to get from chip-on-the-shoulder black people and Hispanics.
You know, the labyrinth in which these white academicians have to go to to proliferate this white guilt industry.
And it is a cottage industry.
The amount of conferences that are coming up.
You and I could probably sit down and we could write a paper that would get us...
Invited to every conference in the country.
We'd probably make six figures by doing this, by giving lectures of this nature.
I'm thinking about this. Come up with some nice pseudonym.
I think I could come up with some great thing about demonizing white people.
Oh, that is one of the largest growth industries in the country right now.
It's not a cottage industry.
It's a booming industry.
Oh, exactly. It is a growth industry.
It's a growth industry with a...
I don't see a ceiling on the market.
I mean, again, the sky's the limit for as far as this can go until you just, like you said earlier, until you eventually just run out of white children to demonize and then you go for, you know...
I guess then it becomes creating, how dare you act white?
You know, the lingering impact of whiteness by osmosis somehow is, gosh, civility still exists.
I mean, what type of society do individuals like Rudick and Golsan, the authors of this, Of this academic paper.
What type of society are they trying to create except for one where white children are forced to prostrate themselves 24-7?
Exactly right. That's it. That's it.
They want us on our knees all the time.
That is the only solution.
Both of these are white, by the way.
Both of these authors are white. I took a look at this guy's picture.
He is the most insignificant, sort of zero-testosterone white guy you could ever imagine.
Oh, so physiognomy is real, as they say.
Oh, well, as Oscar Wilde always used to say...
Only superficial people fail to judge by appearances.
Now, this guy's appearance just tells you everything you need to know about him.
In any case, he is worried that civility is a tool of white privilege and it is maintaining white supremacy.
Mr. Taylor, isn't it the only way to actually have positive relations with, you know, outside your own race is to try and find things you can agree about as opposed to getting in debates about subjects that are contentious?
Because, let's face it, every person in this country We are all variables in this great egalitarian experiment that every day provides a plethora of evidence that's going to fail.
It already has failed. And just go back to the Roy Moore election.
98% of black women voting for Doug Jones.
And being praised as being this great voting block that saved us when I thought the whole idea was to create a colorblind society.
It's this strange set of rules that changes whenever it's needed.
And the only way to have proper interracial relations is, hey, let's find what we can agree on and disregard everything else.
Let's pretend it doesn't exist.
Well, and note also that what this guy is concerned about is only white people's behavior.
Is there anything that blacks or Hispanics or maybe even Asians could do differently?
No. Of course not!
They're doing fine. They're doing fine.
All of their anger is justified.
All of their hatred has good, solid reasons.
We are the people who must change.
Everybody else is brilliant and noble and flawless.
You know, it would be fascinating to see if you could actually get some article through the gates that had anything to do about asking non-whites to change their behavior.
There must be hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of articles about white people dealing with their whiteness, managing their whiteness, unpacking their privilege...
Understanding what it is that they do that perpetrates white supremacy every day.
Not one article about what it is that black people might be doing that makes life difficult for other people or for themselves.
You know what's fascinating about this whole white privilege industry that's kind of popped up out of the past 10 years really to become just something that is able to employ so many people with these seminars and conferences.
I was reading a book about parapsychology and about just how nonsensical all this was, but how it proliferated across the country back in the 70s.
And I think if there's anything you can compare it to, it would be that time period when you had this strange Because no one believed in anything, but at least in our era when egalitarianism has failed so significantly, we can at least create something like white privilege to blame white people still succeeding when all things are equal.
We have to create something. And it obviously can't just be white racism because there is not one...
Regardless of what people think about Donald Trump being a Nazi and a fascist, there's not one person in any elected position that has ever advocated for white identity.
So you have to create this idea, this belief system.
Just as in the 1970s people believed you could bend spoons with your mind, now you've got this idea that whiteness is still the greatest Inhibitor to the post-racial society that they thought they were creating back in the 1960s with the civil rights era.
And you start to figure, you start to ask yourself, Not only is this a religion, but it's one that has some of the craziest acolytes.
Terrifying acolytes, actually, when you read a policy paper, an academic paper of this nature.
You know what it reminds me of?
This notion that there's all of this white viciousness floating around out there and all of this white privilege that is unearned.
It reminds me of the hysteria about devil worship that was supposed to be circulating in childcare institutions.
Do you remember that? Children were being abused in the name of devil worship.
Yes, yes. This was a big problem back in the 1990s at one point.
And they would interrogate these children and the children would say, yes, yes, I was made to do that.
And it was all complete baloney.
It was just like what happened in Salem with the witches.
People get seized by this completely irrational compulsion to believe that there's some sort of evil out there.
And I think that's the situation in the United States.
Everything has got to have some kind of villain.
And we, of course, are the villain.
And that, of course, leads us to another villain.
I think this is a genuine villain.
This is not a make-believe villain.
And his name is Demetrius Avramopoulos.
And what he is, he is the European Commissioner for Migration.
Now he is a pretty big Whig in terms of the Greek establishment.
He had a career as a Greek diplomat.
He was then elected mayor of Athens.
He was made Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of Defense, and now he's on the European Commission.
He is a big bug, not just in Greece, but now in Europe as well.
And he wrote, An article about immigration that was published in Politico.
And let me just read a couple of lines from it.
It says, it's time to face the truth.
We cannot and will never be able to stop migration.
Now, boy, that's pretty straightforward.
Migration is our new reality.
He goes on to say, Wow.
That's a pretty straightforward admission that Europe has no future.
It's a guy who has spent his entire life, he's an apparatchik.
He is at the highest level of his sovereign nation's government.
Now he is completely merged with the I don't want to make a Star Trek reference, but I will.
This Borg that is the EU and dominating and domineering our ancestral homeland.
And you look at this and you realize, wow, that is how you get to the positions of power.
You sell out your own people.
You get that knife, put it in the back of your fellow countrymen and your racial brethren.
And what's crazy about his essay in Politico is...
It flies in the face of actually what's going on in Hungary, and Poland, and Czechoslovakia, and even Austria, and most importantly Israel.
I'm of the mind that you are.
A lot of people give AR. It's like, why don't you guys talk about this subject?
It's like, guys, everything that Israel is is what we want.
Right. I mean, do you not understand the hypocrisy of being against Israel if you don't realize that that is the purest example of an ethnostate in the post-World War II or maybe before that.
I mean, that's what we want.
Well, these days, these days, Hungary is a pretty good example.
Exactly. Yes, they are.
Poland is a pretty good example.
And of course, there have been ethnicities around for non-European ones for forever, you know, Japan or Korea or Turkey, you know, in any case.
But yes, Israel, Israel is succeeding with its fence or walled, if you prefer.
And so did Hungary.
And for him to say it's naive to think that you can stop that with fences, wait a minute, they work fine.
They work brilliantly. And for him to simply say, look, too bad.
This is the new reality.
And we have to change our thinking first.
What he's saying is, we've got to give up on the idea that we can remain European.
It is naive to think our society will remain homogeneous.
Forget it. They want to come.
They're going to come. Get over it.
They're going to cease to be homogeneous.
Greece is going to cease to be Greek, etc., etc.
No, and I think you made a very good point when you first started talking about this guy.
He's probably never had a real job in his life.
He has been sucking on the public teat ever since day one.
He's just another K. Coles James.
Exactly. Exactly.
He's never had a real job.
Probably he's always made enough money to stay far away, live far away from the consequences of immigration.
And he lives in this sort of surreal atmosphere.
He's above it all.
He doesn't care if all the neighborhoods that he never lives in turn Turk.
Or turn Muslim.
He doesn't care.
That's not his problem.
He takes his first-class ticket on his airplane to fly all around the world, and then he can, in his righteousness, say to the Europeans, all the poor little Europeans that actually have to live with these newcomers, You have to change your way of thinking.
Homogeneity is over. There's a general sense of ennui almost to even consider that there is an alternative, as you said.
I'm bored with that. We've already decided what's best for you.
How dare you even think that there's an alternative when you look at what's happened in Austria.
amazing amazing developments in Austria with the with the so-called right-wing
government taking power and they're putting new policies with migrants and
uniting with Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Poland and it it does show that there is
a heartbeat. Yes. A very very vibrant heartbeat that again well we'll talk
about this next week but there is a lot to be optimistic and positive about
heading into 2018.
And a lot of this, I got to tell you, everyone listening to this, I am a firm believer.
I know Mr. Taylor thinks that I'm naive to believe this, but I don't think you'd be...
We wouldn't be able to hear our voices had Hillary Clinton won.
I believe that had Hillary Clinton won, we would see already some United States economic action against Poland, Hungary, and Austria and the Czech Republic based on what they're doing because we already know that at the end of the campaign she was talking about deplorables and the alt-right and these bigots and these xenophobes, this stuff.
We know where they want to head because Merkel was her favorite politician.
These individuals like Demetrius, the European Commissioner for Migration, who basically has capitulated Europe to becoming nothing more than a colony of the Third World.
These are the type of people that the Democrats in America admire and want to replicate.
And they will do whatever they can to silence us.
And right now, even with, you know, Even with Trump in office, a lot of the things that happened in 2017 to get us to this point where Twitter is deplatforming people, this was all self-inflicted wounds that we had nothing to do with, unfortunately.
We had nothing to do with how we have to bear the brunt of it.
But again, as long as we continue to survive and spread the messages, you have to remain positive and hopeful because there are so many wonderful developments that continue to Transpire on a daily basis and they aggregate to point out that we are heading in a direction that is very good for us.
Yes, I agree. I agree.
All of these setbacks reflect the fear that the establishment feels in the face of our activism, in the face of our arguments that they cannot refute.
I think it is certainly unfortunate that we have to face these obstacles, but they wouldn't be there were it not for our successes.
So, yes, indeed.
Next time we'll have a sort of wrap-up of the year, and I agree with you.
I think it has been a positive.
We see things going in our direction, and we will hope to continue to see them going in our direction next year, and I will see you a week from now.
Mr. Kersey, always a pleasure to have you in the studio.