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Aug. 19, 2017 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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Charlottesville: The Hammer Begins to Fall
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to another edition of Radio Renaissance with my usual guest, Paul Kersey, to talk about the week's events and what a week it has been.
Obviously, we could not have this podcast without discussing something that took place in a small Virginia town called Charlottesville.
Oh, it's an absolutely beautiful city, and unfortunately what happened this past weekend was anything but beautiful.
I suppose all of our listeners are familiar with the basic events of what happened.
The Unite the Right gathered and they thought they were going to have a certain amount of
police protection, but now both right and left, demonstrators and counter-demonstrators,
all agree that the police essentially stood down.
We are going to have a piece on our website tomorrow speculating as to why that was.
But there's no question that the police did not do their jobs.
There was basically two hostile armies met and made war.
And this was the pretext to, of course, call the rally off.
I think it's important to point out that one side actually had a permit to be there.
And as we've seen with events over the past four years since the Black Lives Matter movement was spawned, I don't think they've ever had a permit for any of these spontaneous riots that have broken out, be it in Baltimore, where the state, where Mayor Where the mayor at the time actually gave them space to destroy.
And famously, the Baltimore Orioles game that was going on that night, they instructed people at the game to stay inside because of the disturbance that was unfolding, that the state actually condoned.
And then of course, a couple days later, the Baltimore Orioles, whose fan base is predominantly white, living in Baltimore County and the surrounding area of Baltimore, I don't want to say satanic, but Mr. Taylor...
It's expiation.
These people wanted blood.
And when you look at the video of the Charlottesville, where people came, they had a permit that was granted by a federal injunction on Friday, the day before the rally, that they had a right to be at this park.
And they had a right to have police protection from this leftist mob.
The president calls it alt-left, anti-fall, whatever you want to call it.
They showed up with clubs, with bats, with acid to do violence.
And the police should have done their job.
And as you just alluded to, were the police told to stand down to create an environment where an unlawful assembly could be declared and then what unfolded, unfortunately, unfolded.
I have a generally high regard for the police, probably higher than perhaps you do, Mr.
Curzon. No, I don't think there's anyone out there who has a higher regard for the police than I do.
The police, I believe, follow orders.
They're a disciplined force, and they probably did what they were told to do, and they were told, don't mix it up with either side.
That is my guess. Now, the question is why.
Some people on the Unite the Rights side believe that it was to give this pretext to shut down the rally.
And you can make an argument for that.
After all, Charlottesville is one of these super progressive places.
The last thing they want is hours of racially conscious speech making that would go on television, that would be recorded.
They do not want a rally of that kind on their hands.
So that might have been the thinking.
Try to shut the thing down and prevent it from happening.
I have a different theory, really.
And I think it's probably more likely.
I think it is that a place like Charlottesville, it is so progressive, so bobo, so swipple, that the idea of their police actually going and cracking heads and doing what it took to keep those warring armies apart was just not part of their image.
They just didn't want that to happen.
And they would be more humiliated than any other municipality in the entire country if they One of their officers shot an unarmed person.
That's the last thing they want to think of themselves as, as this sort of police state.
Remember the criticism about Ferguson?
Militarization. Oh, this is awful.
Well, that's the last thing a city like Charlottesville wants.
In any case, the police did not do their jobs, and there was this conflict, and we know what happened afterwards.
You're right. And I think it's important to remember to truly put an exclamation point on this being the home of a progressive mindset.
That is, the mayor declared the city the capital of the resistance.
This is the mayor of Charlottesville at a rally held in January following the election of Donald Trump.
So you're talking about going into a city, a gorgeous city, Charlottesville, University of Virginia, just absolutely gorgeous.
But this is the self-proclaimed capital of the resistance.
Resistance to what? President Trump was democratically elected the President of the United States of America.
As we're watching, this whole Russian narrative is on the verge of completely collapsing.
This undemocratic push to delegitimize what was a historic election when Frankly, a duus ex machina.
This guy came out of nowhere, completely embarrassed the GOP establishment.
We'll get into that in a few minutes, about how they're trying to embarrass him now and side with the Antifa.
But this mayor, back in January, right after the inauguration of a president, and there wasn't one city, Mr.
Taylor, that I can think of back in January of 2009, after Barack Obama was inaugurated as president, that declared themselves The center of the resistance against Barry Obama.
And you hear people saying, why wasn't there any of this type of stuff going on during Barack Obama's time as president?
Any of these events taking place to protect the monuments?
Well, you've really only seen this push start after the terrible events in Charleston in 2016.
Was it 2015 or 2016?
I think it was 2016, maybe.
You remember that when I think Barack Obama went to Charleston to give a speech, they actually covered up the George Washington statue.
There's a famous picture you can see of a box that was built around the statue there in Charleston because they were worried about a statue of a slave owner offending people.
And that's why, again, whether it's Divine providence, who knows what it is, but the fact that Donald Trump, Mr.
Taylor, not only did he denounce white supremacy and Nazism on Saturday, mind you, this was before the car incident.
He then went on again and denounced it, and you're seeing the media, The Economist has an evil picture of him with a Klansman blowhorned.
The New Yorker has a picture of him blowing a Klansman sail on a boat.
This narrative that they've pushed since he started his run for office when he brought up Kate Steinle being killed in San Francisco.
They've pushed this idea that he's somehow a Nazi, a white supremacist.
And thus the media has created a moral climate where it is acceptable to attack It's acceptable to get in there and anyone who dares advocate for a white identity or advocate that white people have rights and they have an interest, a group interest.
If every other people can participate in identity politics, in fact, not only can they participate
in identity politics, but corporations fund their identity politics push.
This is the whole meaning of what Charlottesville represents to me in a nutshell.
The concept of white identity, the concept of white people having legitimate interest
in a nation that is on the verge of becoming a plurality, white to minority, there is no
majority race, that white people cannot band together to have freedom of association, to
participate in freedom of assembly, or even voice using the first amendment, freedom of
speech to talk about ideas because the entire state, the entire corporate America infrastructure
is united to keep this, to keep the egalitarian myth alive because as America begins to lose
its white majority, as we've already seen in the micro of cities that lose their white
majority, what happens to a place like Baltimore, what happens to a place like Detroit?
It's going to be harder and harder to blame white privilege and white supremacy when a
place like Detroit, 83% black, or Baltimore, 70% black, or Birmingham, Alabama, 75% black,
when...
Thank you.
The quality of life is so vastly different than it was when the racial demographics were flipped and whites were the majority and blacks now are the majority.
Yes, it's certainly true that every institution in our society immediately assumes that anyone who stands up and speaks in the interests of whites is somehow a wicked, evil person that deserves to be squashed.
Now, one of the things that I've been pointing out This idea that somehow white supremacist rally spins into violence, that's been the general story here.
That whenever you have so-called white supremacists, inevitably they just run wild and there's violence.
The point that I've been making over and over to those media people who have any interest in talking to me, and there have been several over the last few days, What you have here is something that is really quite unique.
If white people gather in the name of white identity, they invariably attract people who hate them, who want to harass them, who want to stop their events, and who, if they have a chance, will attack them and try to injure them, perhaps even kill them.
That is a given.
You don't have it the other way around.
You could have a National Council of La Raza.
I gather they've changed their name lately not to be the race anymore.
They could have a conference in which they get together and talk about detaching the state of Arizona
to make it an all Hispanic enclave because it was illegally taken by these gringos back in the Mexican-American War.
They could have a conference of that kind, utterly and entirely unmolested by anyone
and with the tacit approval of the media.
It is when whites get together to talk about something that you have these ferocious antifa
who, if they can, they will go in, disrupt, harass, and probably beat up
and attempt to kill the people whom they hate.
And then they say this is white supremacist thinking gone violent.
This is completely wrong.
But no one in the media that I've seen in the mainstream has ever seen this pattern.
I go back to the night that a lot of people believe Donald Trump cemented the presidency, and that was in July of 2016 when a so-called peaceful rally in Dallas, Texas for Black Lives Matter was interrupted, regrettably.
You saw this language used in the mainstream media, a peaceful rally, and it was mainly peaceful until the very end when it disbanded, when a Black Lives Matter supporter I don't remember the words Hillary Clinton used, but I think she said something on Twitter about how white people must learn to listen to blacks better.
And I think a lot of white people across the country, Mr.
Taylor, heard loud and clear what it would mean to listen to blacks.
Because only two, three weeks later, in Baton Rouge, another black nationalist went there.
And this was after there had been a police-involved shooting.
Of course, the police officers were subsequently...
Acquitted of any charges in 2017.
But at the time, there was some fear of some riots in Baton Rouge.
Well, some police officers were shot in broad daylight.
Dallas happened at night. Another black nationalist went and shot more white cops.
I think there was actually a black cop that was shot as well.
And again, I have a lot of respect and veneration for police.
Police do an unthinkable task in our increasingly multiracial empire.
They answer to the state. They answer to the executive branch of the government, whether it's a city, whether it's
a state, or whether it's the federal government.
And they have families to worry about. They have a pension that, well, increasingly as our country becomes diverse, I
don't see how those pensions are going to be able to be paid by an eroding tax base.
But that's not a conversation for today.
My point is, in the wake of the black terror attack in Dallas, Texas, the Memphis Commercial Appeal actually
published on their cover story, it stated unequivocally what happened, what transpired, that a black nationalist
killed five white cops.
The next day, after an uproar, Memphis is 63% black, There was an uproar that, how dare you publish this truth?
The editor of this paper apologized and wrote an editorial.
Asking, begging for forgiveness, basically, for publishing this accurate headline that a black nationalist killed white cops.
Well, this is all part of the concerted cover-up of black misbehavior, black racially conscious, racially motivated misbehavior that every aspect of our nation insists is some sort of myth or must be shoved under the carpet.
Because, again, when you get these Black Lives Matter demonstrations, as you say, permitless, they just spontaneously erupt, there is violence that flows from them.
They stop traffic. They throw bottles at the cops.
They insult the cops.
They sometimes rough up bystanders.
They break into stores.
This is spontaneous violence that is not even in reaction to any kind of provocation.
It's just the way they behave.
And to get back to this point I was making earlier, whenever there is any kind of violence that erupts between left and right at a racially conscious organization, if those demonstrators were not there, there'd be no violence.
Absolutely no violence at all.
We know in the case of Charlottesville because, as you'll recall, in May, there was a similar demonstration.
Some of the same speakers were there to protect the Lee Monument.
There were no counter-demonstrators, no violence, no disorder of any kind.
It was completely and utterly peaceful.
And again, as our astonishingly fair-minded president has pointed out, what happened in Charlottesville was again a situation in which had those counter-demonstrators not showed up with their sticks and their shields and their helmets and their stink bombs and their improvised flamethrowers, There would have been no problem at all.
There is nothing inherently violent about a group of racially conscious white people.
But the media are all saying it's our fault.
And as you know, when the president states what is blindingly, absolutely blindingly obvious, that there were two sides there, that there was hostility on both sides, he shouted down, no, there was only one side.
This is just astonishing.
If there were truly a white racial threat to stability in this nation on November 28, 2015, you would have seen Missourians or people from around the area converge on Ferguson to protect the city when Darren Wilson was acquitted and President Barack Obama went on national television to address the country and he urged police to show caution and stated that it was an understandable reaction to be upset to the verdict that had just been laid down by, you know...
Through our judicial process.
Basically undermining the judicial process.
Our president did this and urged police to show restraint.
And if you go back and look at the simulcast, you're watching violence break out in Ferguson.
Black violence break out in Ferguson.
A tire store was being burned as he's giving this address and he urges police to show caution.
What is more, not once in that 15-minute speech did he say it's not a good idea to attack a policeman.
Not once did he say it's not a good idea to try to wrestle a policeman's gun out of his hand.
Not once did he say the guy who got shot might have had something to do with being shot.
It was all about the police we know throughout this country.
It's not just in Ferguson.
We have this problem with violence.
We have this problem with racism.
Not one word about black people.
Or people in general behaving politely towards the cops and refraining from attacking them.
This is just astonishing.
Of course, everyone in the country, all the mainstream media, thought this was a wonderful peacemaking speech.
Yes, yes, by saying, please don't riot, please don't riot, while the tire shop burns, but not saying one word about the kind of violent thuggishness that provoked the whole thing in the first place.
On this podcast last week, I voiced my concern that this event was going to precipitate a fast, quick and swift reaction by city councils across the country to remove...
Monuments, Confederate monuments, without any fanfare, without any debate, but get rid of them because they didn't want the same type of events that happened in Charlottesville to transpire in their city.
And as we've seen with places like Lexington, Kentucky, we saw in the middle of the night in Baltimore, Maryland, a 70% black city, Mayor Pugh.
She said that she wanted to protect her city because she was worried about people coming in and doing evil things to the people who are going to remove them.
Well, no one did anything evil down in New Orleans when Mayor Landrieu removed those four statues that had been there for more than a hundred years.
What's fascinating about the Baltimore situation is that This is probably the most violent year in the history of the city of Baltimore.
And the city of Baltimore is about 70% black.
Just two weeks ago, they had a stop the violence ceasefire.
Stop, please. Black people, stop killing each other.
It's the nobody kill nobody weekend.
Yes, it lasted for 40 hours, 44 hours, before there were multiple shootings, multiple deaths.
And yet, she's worried that these Confederate monuments are somehow going to, by osmosis,
cause violence against black people when really the only violence that we see in the city,
courtesy of the Baltimore Sun, which does a homicide tracker, they track the race of
every homicide victim, invariably every homicide in Baltimore is black on black or black on
white, just terrifying the amount of violence there.
She's still worried about these Confederate monuments.
To me, they stand as silent witnesses to the truth of racial realities that increasingly
the state must put down and make illegal to even hold.
Well, Mr. Kersey, you mean to tell me that removing those Confederate monuments will not lower the death toll?
Is that what you're telling me? I think that we're going to see the death toll even increase.
You saw...
We already know that there's a Freddie Gray Community Center in Baltimore.
Don't forget, they're going to put up in their place wonderful, inspiring statues of Martin Luther King, Harriet Tubman, and maybe Jesse Jackson after he's dead.
And this, of course, will lower the death toll, don't you think?
You know, it's...
You laugh, sir. That was a blessed laugh.
I laugh because...
There were two stories over the past three days that I believe show where things are regrettably heading.
And that is the burning of an Abraham Lincoln statue and a 98% black part of the south side of Chicago.
A man who...
Waged war, suspended the Constitution, and then issued the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863.
And then, of course, right before he was shot by John Wilkes Booth, he basically started talking about enfranchising the black population.
A true advocate of black rights in the United States.
They burned his statue.
In a 98% black part of Chicago.
And then in Atlanta, Georgia, in Piedmont Park, there was a statue for reconciliation and peace that this mob...
Between the north and the south.
Yes. Just a haunting statue.
This beautiful monument.
And they mistook it, this mob of Black Lives Matter, Antifa, Alt-Left, whatever you want to call them.
They wanted to tear it down and talk about a metaphor for our times.
I've joked with you before about a line from the movie Independence Day when the president is telepathically linked to the alien invader and he says, you know, can there be a peace between us?
And the alien thinks for a second and responds, peace?
No peace. And then the president asks, what is it you want us to do?
And the alien ponders it for a second and says, die.
Die! I know you laugh and you think that's crazy, but the left wants expiation in response to all this.
And even conservatives, even so-called Republicans, have joined in the chorus, Mr.
Taylor. I'm not sure they want us dead.
They just want us basically enslaved.
They want us to be working nonstop for their benefit.
They want to tax us.
They want to despise us.
They want to exploit us. But I don't think they want us dead.
But, back to that statue, I think even the idea of reconciliation probably is anathema to them.
What was it, a statue of a Union soldier and a Confederate soldier in some form of reconciliation?
No, that's not acceptable.
The Union soldier must be shown in the heart of Atlanta in the process of sticking his bayonet into the bowels of the Confederate soldier.
Maybe that they might accept, but even the image of a Confederate soldier is probably no matter what his posture.
Unacceptable to them.
But to return to the specific events in Charlottesville, I think something else that was very important that was hardly mentioned at all was what happened during the press conference the next day, Sunday, of the person who organized the rally, Jason Kessler. He got a forest of microphones.
Everyone was there to see him.
And he got about three words into his speech before he was completely drowned out by this hooting din of protesters.
And then before long, they mobbed him.
They attacked him. He had to run away.
Only then did the police step in and protect him against a group that probably would have beaten him to a pulp.
Yeah. But let's imagine that such a thing occurred.
And some spokesman of CARE, CAAR, or some Islamic organization had stepped forward to give a press conference trying to explain their perspective on it, say, no, no, we disavow this violence, this doesn't stand, etc.
Whatever it was they were going to say.
And got the Jason Kessler treatment.
Imagine what would have happened.
I believe there would have been an immediate Department of Justice investigation to the people who attacked him, there would have been multiple arrests, and it would have been a scandal coast to coast.
In the case of the assault on Jason Kessler, there was one guy briefly detained by the police, despite the fact there were clear punches thrown, and then he was let go.
And no one, no one in the mainstream media has acknowledged what happened there with anything other than an enormous yawn.
This, to me, is a preposterous double-strander, just like the other ones that we've been talking about.
And the media don't seem to realize that more and more white people are noticing these patterns.
And more and more white people are increasingly angry, frustrated by what they see as a deprivation of their basic rights.
There are no double standards.
There's only the standard, and that is that the state must stop any public reaction to the egalitarian policy they've instituted, whether it's corporate America, whether it's academia, whether it's the The public sector, whether it is in entertainment, this narrative must be protected at all costs.
And you can hear people say, well, you know, we scared them when we all showed up at this event.
I think that's so foolish because seeing what's happened in reaction to this, where even the President of the United States saying very Just honest reaction saying there was bad people on both sides.
Do we want to start taking down the Jefferson monument?
Do you want to take down the Washington monument?
I've even read in Philadelphia that they want to take down the Frank Rizzo statue because Frank Rizzo stood for Law and Order.
At what point are they going to take down the Rocky Balboa statue they have in Philadelphia?
It's sort of a joke. How many black guys did Rocky Balboa beat up over the years in movies?
I know that's a joke, but my point is this.
This is not a laughing matter anymore, folks.
We saw in response to this, we've seen black elected officials argue for taking down Jefferson, argue for taking down Washington monuments.
When they realize all of the great men who were part of the American Colonization Society, which advocated for the repatriation of slaves so that we would avoid...
Jefferson wrote about this in Notes of Virginia.
He knew this kind of reaction was going to happen when you have two races living on the same soil, that there is going to be a natural response for one wanting to rule the other.
It's history.
No one out there...
I saw Tucker Carlson get attacked by Bill Kristol the other day for...
He tried to say that Tucker was arguing for neo-slavery.
It's like, what are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
No sane person believes in this.
You and I are sitting here and we believe in freedom of association.
That's it. I believe that blacks should be able to do whatever they want to, to work together to benefit their city.
If, say like a place like Jackson, Mississippi, which is almost 90% black now, if they want to pass laws for restrictive covenants, if they wanted to pass laws that would bar white people from going into a restaurant owned by a A private business owner, that's cool. That's fine.
That's great. You know, more power to you.
Keep the money in your community.
I just ask that we'd be able to be treated the same.
And if...
Well, asking that white people be treated exactly like everyone else, that's obviously unreasonable.
Now, one of the points, you opened this little observation by pointing out that this is the desire of the state.
The state actually can sit there with its arms folded because the state doesn't have to do a thing in terms of shutting down any expression of white interests.
Private people, private actors do it entirely on their own.
It's not the state that is deplatforming people who dissent.
It's all these private companies.
It's not the state that fires adjunct professors if they get out of line.
In other words, I think our situation is worse than that of the Soviet Union.
In the Soviet Union, you had commissars with military uniforms back in the back room making sure that the TV announcers said what they were supposed to do.
Everybody knew there was censorship.
Everybody knew that there was power out there that had an iron grip on what was said.
Today, in the United States, practically every man is his own commissar.
Every man is his own censor.
Now, I suspect that you're right.
If there were a point at which the private sector was not behaving as it should, perhaps the state would step in.
But at this point, it is the government.
It is government-owned facilities where we can actually hold our demonstrations.
It is only those facilities because the private sector is so terrified, so intimidated, so subject to pressure and intimidation.
I've actually argued that America is an open-air gulag in a lot of ways.
And like you just said...
Every man is a commissar. It's a terrifying reality.
And that's the takeaway from Charlottesville, the speed in which your Apple, your Twitter, your Facebook, your other entities, your public entities, which should be considered public utilities, have been able to just completely...
Wash away anything that was connected to this event.
Just today, by the way, I got an email message from Uber.
Uber said, I'm an occasional Uber client.
They said, we want you to know we are horrified by the events in Charlottesville.
And we want to assure you, if we ever find out that anybody who is a white supremacist or a bad guy in any way is one of our clients, we're going to take them off.
We're not going to let them use our service.
So please be assured.
Airbnb was trying to do exactly the same thing, as you know.
This is just astonishing.
This coalition, this enormous massive monolith of private entities that have lined up against a particular point of view.
Essentially, they're lining up against a particular race.
And to me, perhaps the most astonishing lesson of what happened in Charlottesville is what Marco Rubio now is prepared to say.
In one of his recent tweets, and I want to read the whole thing word for word so as not to be open to any misinterpretation, when entire movement, he left out the because this is a tweet, when entire movement built on anger and hatred toward people different than you, it justifies and ultimately leads to violence against them.
What is this? In other words, you can be peaceably saying something.
You can be peaceably exercising your First Amendment right.
And that justifies violence?
To me, this is an astonishing capitulation.
Marco Rubio, a so-called conservative, he's saying there are certain positions you can take that justify violence.
Whose family, by the way, fled from Cuba.
Communist Cuba. Because his father saw what was going on.
I think about the American Civil Liberties Union, which has come under fire for daring to protect the First Amendment rights of those who participated at this event.
Again, they had a permit.
Some of the listeners of this probably found some of the things that were Going on at the Unite the Right event repugnant.
And yeah, they're probably right.
But they have a right to do that under the First Amendment.
And if we are going to redefine what freedom of speech means for particular racial groups, Why is it okay for organizations like the NAACP to continue to advocate on behalf of just colored people?
Why is it like you talked about La Raza?
These organizations have corporate funding.
Mitt Romney has also said a number of terrifying things.
Again, people want to exist in this paradigm where Donald Trump is somehow advocating on behalf of those who attended this Unite the Right rally.
No, he's advocating on behalf of the First Amendment.
He's advocating on behalf of Words not being justification for violence.
And what sane individual wouldn't do that?
If you're an American, that is precisely what it means to defend the Bill of Rights.
If not, let's just go ahead and get rid of all the Bill of Rights.
Well, Joe Biden tweeted after the initial remarks about many sides involved, which Donald Trump was saying, look, there's not just one set of bad guys here.
It takes two to tango.
Joe Biden says, no, there's only one side.
Only one side is bad.
This, again, this is really the sort of thing you might expect from a Democrat, but essentially saying the same thing as Marco Rubio.
If you have people who get up and state certain positions, then they are to blame if people die.
They're to blame if there's conflict, violence.
There's only one side.
This is just astonishing to me.
The man who is almost our vice president, Tim Kaine, the senator from Virginia, said roughly the same thing in a tweet while his son potentially faces jail time, I believe, for assaulting a cop and being a participant in antifa violence against Trump supporters.
His son is a member of this violent, what the president has called the alt-left, and...
Let's be blunt. As you and I are doing this podcast, apparently Steve Bannon is now out at the White House.
This is just breaking and this is a terrifying thing when you think about how the people who were
Who orchestrated the Donald Trump revolution the loyalists?
they were not really rewarded with positions within the Trump White House to
Be architects of a truly make America great again agenda There are some great things that President Trump has done
in office this past week I believe was his most important week because he stood up
for the First Amendment and I would have hoped that in The unlikelihood that there had been
White people who had attacked a black nationalist event or a Hispanic nationalist event as we saw happen
If you if you reversed it, I I believe that you know had Barack Obama been in office
I hope that he would to have been a staunch defender of the First Amendment. That's that's all that
Americans should be about And that is, if we don't take the Bill of Rights seriously, we can't take this country seriously anymore.
And we need to admit that, going back to what you said, every man is a komazar.
The United States is less free than the Soviet Union ever was.
And that, my friends, is a terrifying thing.
I believe reality. Yes, yes.
We are like dissidents in the Soviet Union.
And so far, we are not jailed.
But we are certainly treated as if we were insane.
Remember, one of the treatments for dissidents was to put them in mental institutions.
They could not possibly believe the things they believe and be sane.
Now, that day may yet come.
We are certainly treated as if we were unhinged, completely around the bend.
Now, we are not yet put in jail for what we believe, but we can be fired from our jobs, we can be humiliated, our addresses can be publicly exposed.
And this is very much the kind of oppressive environment that we now look upon as having been so terrible in the Soviet Union.
No, I think in a way, though, you're almost overestimating our president.
You're talking about his principled support for the First Amendment, the Bill of Rights.
I think in his case, it's a much more visceral sense of just fairness.
Here you have two warring parties.
And he's saying, well, hold on, hold on.
They're bad guys on the other side, too.
What'd they do show up, you know, prepared for war?
I think that's all it is in his case.
But that's enough.
That makes him an absolute standout in this political field of utter cowards and willfully blind people.
I go back to what he talked about in that press conference where He pointed out, quite succinctly, Jefferson, Washington.
We're going to rename stuff for them.
And you think about every great American before the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
They've all got to go to. Every one of them.
Pat Buchanan pointed this out in a column that he did, where he talked about a number of things.
And basically, you have to erase American history to placate those in power and I mean, think about this.
The other day, Vice.com talked about blowing up Mount Rushmore.
I mean, how quickly things have proceeded to, no, it's not just the Confederate monuments.
No, it's not just the Founding Fathers.
Let's get rid of Jackson Square down in New Orleans.
Let's rename every one of these cities.
That's right. As I like to say, we certainly can't let the president live in a White House.
Isn't that just the most obvious symbol of white supremacy?
You know, you can imagine, it's not all that difficult to imagine, a completely feminized future in which every historical politician who was opposed to giving women the vote, those names have to be Blot it out.
Those statues have to come down.
Every man who opposed the 40-hour week.
When you start judging the past by the standards of the present, every politician who ever voted to pass laws against homosexuality, punishing homosexuals, you can imagine a future in which all of this gets revised.
The past becomes full of nothing but evil people.
And of course, because it's white people who are the architects of our past, This is yet another way of demonizing white people.
There's not much to say to that, but you're exactly right.
And it's one of the reasons why organizations such as the one in Montgomery continue to find new ways to reinvent the term hate.
So it encompasses a larger tent and to lump in people who are just trying to protect children from normalizing a pedophilia.
It's evil.
It's frightening because Again, even people on the right don't have the language to truly counter this.
Because again, all they have to do is say, well, you're infringing upon my rights.
You're discriminating. And people cower in fear to that.
It's not just about race.
At this point, it's any deviation from the egalitarian norm.
You and I talked about that back during the...
During the race for the presidency about why they wanted to lump Trump in.
Just because he deviated on central tenets of this egalitarian theology that we must all pray to daily, he was de facto a white supremacist, a Nazi.
And some of the best people I know are good Christians who don't really even know how evil things are at this point.
And they don't I don't think they see where things are headed with the whole push for the normalizing of this stuff.
Just the other day I saw an article about a little eight-year-old boy who's now a poster child for drag queens.
And his mother, he's just turned him into a drag queen.
And this is a YouTube video that a number of magazines, a number of fashion magazines are highlighting as some wonderful thing that we should all cherish and celebrate.
And you look at this and you think to yourself, What has happened?
When did I wake up into this world that even Rod Serling himself, who was also, you know, a pretty bad dude back in the 50s, if you know much about him, when he was doing The Twilight Zone, he wouldn't even recognize how crazy things have gotten.
No, no. I think he could probably make a new episode every day based on simply what we find now going on around us all the time.
We are living in The Twilight Zone.
Anyway, we're just about out of time.
We were going to talk about the attacks in Spain, the Allah Akbar attacks also in Finland, but I think this is something that happens so frequently these days.
Maybe not even worth mentioning, for heaven's sake.
Except, I don't know, I really can't help mentioning the fact that in Barcelona, a van driven by a Moroccan, a man of Moroccan origin.
They call him a Catalan of Moroccan origin.
For heaven's sake, a Catalan is a Catalan.
In any case, a Moroccan origin Catalan drives into a group of tourists in Barcelona, 14 dead, over 100 injured.
This is really extraordinary stuff.
And then another car in Cambrils, this resort town.
This injured six civilians and one cop.
Five attackers were then shot dead by the Spanish police.
Good for them. Good for them.
I keep fantasizing, Mr.
Kersey, about a similar attack in the United States in which an armed civilian Well, you were talking about people just taking this as, you know, the weather pattern's changing.
This is going to happen. I'm looking at the car attacks, and you had Nice on July 14, 2016, where...
87 people were killed.
458 people were injured.
Berlin, in Christmas of 2016, 11 pedestrians were killed.
56 non-fatal injuries.
In Stockholm, there were 5 people killed.
14 were seriously injured in an Islamic car attack.
London Bridge, on June 3rd, 2017, you had...
Three people get out of their van, begin stabbing people, shot an officer, eight people died, 48 people were injured, 21 critically.
Then, of course, in Paris, you had the Champs-Elysees attack.
I mean, I'm looking at this list.
Oh, Mr. Kersey, you're just going to begin to bore us.
I know, but this is just all in the past.
I know, I know. You know, and then the Barcelona.
Yes, but this is the new normal.
This is what we're supposed to get accustomed to because Islam is a religion of peace and all religions are equally beautiful, true, and wonderful.
You were talking about conservatives reacting to this, what I call the standard.
You said double standard.
I believe it's the standard. They've noted, why is the media not and why aren't these corporations immediately deplatforming?
Muslims in Europe.
Why aren't they doing the exact, the hammer fall, as I call it.
Why aren't all these terror attacks, why don't we see the same reaction as opposed to in these type of events?
It's the media saying there shouldn't be a backlash.
The Muslim community is fearful.
But they are taking ISIS off the internet to the extent possible.
They are taking some of these outright jihadi organizations off of social media.
That has been done.
But I think the essential point is to say, whenever something like this happens, the very first reaction is, oh my gosh, there must be no backlash.
This, we must treat each one of these countless number of assailants as a simple deranged individual who stands absolutely for himself alone and no implications can be drawn about the larger community.
I keep thinking, well, this Fields guy who drove the car into the demonstrators in Charlottesville, I wonder if he'll get the same treatment.
What do you think the chances are? They're going to say, no, this guy's just off his rocker.
He speaks, he acts all by himself.
It has no implication whatsoever for white people.
What are the chances of that?
Zero, of course.
Again, in our system of government and the judicial system we have created, which I believe is very fair, he's innocent until proven guilty.
And if he's found guilty, then yes, he should, by all means and purposes, face his actions.
But you're right. I mean, no one is going to say, as we saw in the Fort Hood incident, diversity can't be our casualty.
No one's going to say, well, this gentleman, this guy's actions, once he's found guilty, somehow make anyone who's ever voiced an idea in favor of white identity.
They are painted with the same brush now.
They're just as evil as he is.
Of course. Of course.
I don't want to say something stupid like, why can't we all get along?
Because I think we're past that point, Mr.
Taylor. I think we are in a position where courage, once again, as I've advocated here, this is a dark, haunting time because we are seeing the criminalization of thought to a degree that...
Unprecedented since the time of the Soviet Union, but as you've noted, it's probably far worse.
Yes. Because it's not state-mandated.
It's self-imposed. I think this must be some sort of unique thing in the history of the world.
It used to be heresy was rooted out by the church.
Now heresy is rooted out by individuals.
Individuals. Anyway, we've come to the end of our time.
Always a pleasure to have you in the studio, Mr.
Kersey. And we'll keep our fingers crossed and hope that next week is not quite as eventful.
But that's not something you can count on in these astonishing times.
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