The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2478 - Theo Von

April 2, 2026 - The Joe Rogan Experience

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Joe Rogan Experience #2478 - Theo Von

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Theo Von and Joe Rogan dissect AI's potential to eliminate empathy, linking rising autism rates to chemical exposure and capitalism while critiquing tech censorship and California's failed high-speed rail. They debate the decline of comedy under woke ideology, expose pharmaceutical profits driving diagnoses, and analyze conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie Kirk's death and CIA mind control projects. The conversation covers drone warfare in Gaza, corporate consolidation involving Bayer and Monsanto, and skepticism toward government transparency in Ukraine and Iran, ultimately questioning materialism's grip on reality before promoting Von's film Bus Boys. [Automatically generated summary]
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Speaker	Time	Text
unidentified		The Joe Rogan Experience.
unidentified		Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Who do you mean by those people?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know.
unidentified		You know.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's changed over the years.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What about the horns?
		I don't know.
		You know.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You mean band members?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Who are you talking about here?
unidentified		Stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Music.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Music industry.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, yeah, I was going to say.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We're just talking about it.
		So we should tell people what we're talking about.
		If you hum a song, just like fuck around and like the cocaine song, you know what I mean?
		If you play Eric Clapton, if you do that, you'll get flagged on YouTube.
		And they take money from you.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		How desperate is that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's gross.
		Like, you can't even hum a song?
		You can't, like, what are you talking about?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You can't even hum.
		In the future, you're not even going to be able to fall in love.
		They're going to charge you for it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How are they going to do that?
		Well, you won't be falling in love with the person anymore.
		People will be outdated.
		People come with problems.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I ain't coming on no bot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No?
		Ever?
		What about in one?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		No.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		What will they do with it?
unidentified		Keep it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Maybe that's what keeps them alive.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Imagine that.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Let me think about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're going to fuck her every day to keep her alive.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you don't, she starts shriveling up on you like she's on Ozempic.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		So she's Latino, you're saying.
		You gotta keep her plump.
		You gotta keep the juices flowing, huh?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There'd be guys that would sign up for that.
		Okay, I think I could do that.
		But day 5,026 in a row, you'd be like, oh my God, I can't do this.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And she's dying.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Why is she dying?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		She's electric, isn't she?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She only gets powered by cum.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's sad.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In three days with no cum, she shuts off and that's it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you can't bring her back.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'd shut her down quick.
unidentified		I'll tell you that, dude.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		She would be.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You'd have to let your buddies fuck her just to keep her alive.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's going to be gross, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It would be.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And it would be sad and stuff like that.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And you'd have somebody late at night, like, hey, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He loves her?
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		What's your wife doing, dude?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Like, texting you at like 4 a.m.?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bro, if you need me to keep her alive, he's over there stroking it while he's on the phone with you.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Bro, plug your wife in for a little bit, bro.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Let me chart.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Let me come over there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We're getting close.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you see those ones they have at the Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		The dancing ones?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, it's an AI companion that's a robot.
		It's like a very pretty lady, and her mouth moves, and she talks.
		It's not there yet, but it's in the neighborhood.
		It's not at the right door, but it just entered the community.
		You know what I mean?
unidentified		You think so?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, some communities have that awning, welcome to Paradise Estates, and you go through, and there's all the houses in the subsection.
unidentified		Yeah.
		It's in the door.
		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's in the door.
unidentified		It's not at your house yet.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just not at your house yet.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just not at your house yet.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's just at Noakes or whatever.
unidentified		Exactly.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Or Hunter's Glen or Racist Cove or whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The fuck robot has made it through.
		Onto your street.
		It's just not at your house yet.
		And it will be in five to ten years.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		My kids aren't fucking robots.
unidentified		They will.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you have kids, they're going to fuck robots.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		No, they won't, Jeff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You won't be able to stop them.
		All their friends are going to be able to do it.
		It'd be rude.
		It'd be like keeping them off social media.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's crazy, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you keep your kids off social media, they feel left out.
		They're like, come on, Dad.
		Let me get Snapchat.
		Like, no, son.
		I want you to concentrate on your homework and your football.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Come on, Dad.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Come on, Dad, let me get Snapchat.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		No, look, your dad wakes you up early.
		He's like, look, one of you little bastards left a freaking cum robot in the yard.
		Which one of these?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		All delirious, comfort and calm, all your friends fucked it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's sad.
		But I do think that one day our smiles will be in a museum.
		That's where we're headed.
		It's like the feelings are starting to disappear, you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Maybe that's what autism is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like severe autism?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I've thought about that a lot.
		That's why we're getting to some of the.
		The only way we could get to this place if we get to this data driven place where it's like, you know, alien-esque, things start to feel alien-esque here is because of autism leading.
		It's when autism mixes with what's it called?
		Our society is based on money, capitalism.
		When autism and capitalism converge, things got really weird.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And think about it, right?
		We don't know exactly what is causing autism.
		They have a lot of suspicions.
		A lot of them have to do with vaccines and different medications and different chemicals and pollutants and all sorts of different things.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And cologne, too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		One thing we could all agree on, and Tylenol, they think, too, right?
		But one thing that we can all agree on is that it's a big factor, is stuff that we've created.
		It's a big factor.
		Whatever it is.
		Let's not put the blame on any one of these industries, but there's something going on where more people are getting autism now than ever.
		And it seems almost positive that it's coming from us, that we did something.
		Human society.
		Well, if you think about where human society is going, wouldn't that be a way to turn us into something new, right?
		If we were going to merge with machines, what better way than to eliminate empathy, eliminate emotions, make us like.
		Able to like stay at home and stare at a screen for hours at a time with no concern whatsoever.
		Just the kind of social detachment along with the integration of all this crazy new technology.
		And the people, a lot of the people that are in the tech business at high levels are on the spectrum.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, dude.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		They're on the fucking diving board of the spectrum.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they're the ones bringing in AI, they're bringing in the next version of life.
		Kind of, I mean, almost like we're thinking it's like a mistake, but it might not be.
		It might be like a crucial part of the system when you get further and further integrated with technology and all the stuff that you need to make it and all the stuff that's involved in capitalism, including like lying about what medications kids need and giving them this and giving them that, lying about what kind of pesticides do or the chemicals do or whatever it is.
		What is that ultimately doing?
		If it's leading people to be on the spectrum more and more often, what if one day it's not one in 12 in California?
		If it's 100%, everybody, you got a full spectrum society.
		And there's no regular people left.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You have to think about that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If it's one in 12 boys right now in California, and it used to be like one in 10,000, this is like an invasion.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like an invasion of a way that people think that's entering into human civilization.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And I feel like it was, I agree.
		Right.
		So then it's like those, and then if you don't have this like uprising, this emotional uprising out of people of like, you know, like this is wrong, because I think like, um, You know, when you get real data based and like that kind of like Tizum esque type of energy, I think you're not, you know, you're not thinking about some of the like how it affects you as much.
		Or maybe just you're able to like roll into that nest of like this is this new digital landscape and those people fit well in it.
		Does that make any sense?
unidentified		It does.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It does make fit well.
		And they do fit well in it.
		I know a lot of people that are on Spectrum Me that are very happy just being online all the time.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what they do.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And, dude, maybe that's what's supposed to happen.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the scary part is like, what if that's what's supposed to happen?
unidentified		Right.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And the rest of us are just like, because I'm like, I think a romanticist, you know?
		I'm thinking like, oh, yeah, a porch and a rocking chair.
		And then, you know, but, you know, other people are like, yeah, we're coming in robots and shit like that and ordering bagels through our fucking brain cells and shit, you know?
		Like, it's just like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We're thinking of autism as a flaw, but it might be a feature.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But is it what, is it, okay, is it what nature wants or is it something that we're creating that is heading us down a very dark path?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I feel like it's not autism, but all of it in conjunction is the second one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It might be what the universe wants.
		It might be how it goes.
		Like, there has to be some sort of a pathway from territorial primates to something new.
		Right?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Does there?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
		Yeah, because otherwise we would still be single celled organisms.
		Everything's moving in a general direction of more complexity.
unidentified		Okay.
		Right?
		That's fair.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, if it's moving in a general direction of more complexity, and with all the technology that we're making, like, we're moving into some fucking weird place, right?
		Wouldn't it be better if you just, like, easily accepted that?
		And what better way than if you're.
		One of those dudes that's on the spectrum that loves to chill at home and play video games, just stare at a screen.
		Doesn't really need a lot of human contact.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		One of those fucking data wiggers or whatever they call them.
		You know, those fucking tech monkeys or whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Those guys are just all about it.
		They're all about it.
		They're wearing Apple watches and the fucking apple eyes.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Whoop neck brace.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yep, yep, yep.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		They had to do with a fucking whoop neck brace.
		It was like, it kept updating on his watch.
		It's like your neck's still broken or whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's got a whoop cock ring.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're fucking fuckers, robot.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Bro, you blink twice and you're fucking.
		Yeah, it like it shoots GLP ones into your nuts.
		It's just like it's all too, but it's happened too fast, bro, and it's too much.
		And it starts to be like, is it being controlled?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dude, here's something that I was being controlled by a small amount of people, which is always scary.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's scary.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's always scary when a small amount of individuals have insane amounts of power and wealth.
		And that's what's going to happen with this AI thing.
		And that's what's what happened with tech.
		Look, look what happened with tech.
		With tech.
		The vast majority of the people that are involved were all like heavily left wing, very progressive, like kind of even far left in a way.
		And look, they pushed the entire country's narrative in that direction through censorship on social media, through banning any accounts that didn't, you know, didn't kind of commit to the narrative.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Russiagate.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Russiagate.
		Anything about Hunter Biden's laptop, anything about vaccines being deadly, or, you know, maybe it came from a lab, all that stuff would get you kicked off.
		So it was all moving in this one ideological direction.
		That's literally the conversation the entire country's having, and there's no other output.
		Before, there were a few of them that came around, like Gab and some other ones, some social media sites that were a response to that, but they never really took off, right?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Nothing took off yet.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Not really.
		There's some people that are on threads and there's some people on trues, but the reality is if you're not on Twitter, You're not really going to connect with most people.
		That's the giant majority of people having conversations.
		And it was all completely controlled by a small group of people with one ideology.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But then didn't all those, or half of those people move over to the other political party when Trump got elected?
		Like, you know what I'm saying?
		Like, Zuckerberg was on the left side.
		Bezos seemed like a very left leaning guy.
		And then they're all just.
		So that's what made me start to think oh, none of these guys are really on a side.
		There's this other third side that a lot of us can't see that is just.
		Kind of commandeering or fabricating or like infiltrating both sides.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If I could hum a song right now, I'd hum the Pink Floyd song Money.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because that's what they were protecting that cheddar, that cash, baby.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Protecting that cash.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look how many people are fucking moving out of all these states that are trying to impose wealth taxes.
		They're trying to steal money from the people that are the most successful.
		I was reading something about Massachusetts and how much this lady was reporting about how much Massachusetts has lost from that because people leave the state.
		Their businesses leave the state.
		New York is having the same problem.
		Like Kathy Holchel, lady, you know, now she's asking people.
		I don't know how to say her name.
		I don't care.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, get a better name.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who cares what her name is?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's asking people to go to Palm Beach and tell people to come back to New York now because we're losing tax base.
		Like, come on.
		Of course, you're losing tax base.
		You can't just arbitrarily decide that because someone makes more money, they deserve to give you more money.
		And then, what have you done with the money you have?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's the best part.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, a shit ton of waste and fraud.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And have you corrected any of that?
unidentified		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, your solution is what?
unidentified		More money?
		Yeah.
		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fuck all the way off.
		Of course, these people are going to leave.
		You're a bunch of incompetent stooges, and you're in charge of all the money in the state.
		And that's dumb.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And that's why Chevron moved out of California, and Tesla moved out of California, and In Out Burger moved out of California.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		We moved out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We moved out of California.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		We're not companies, but we're people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We might as well be companies.
		We're small companies.
		But it's like, you can't just say, we're going to take more money, and that'll fix it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But you don't think billionaires.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Especially, dude, what has happened, like with the follow ups to the Somali fraud, like all of these.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Fraud buildings where it's like blatant, there's no businesses, it's just a sign on the door, and like it feels like there's no follow up to it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's some, there's some, there's some people that are being prosecuted right now.
		There is a bunch of investigations regarding Minnesota, regarding California.
		They're getting in there, they have to get in there now because it's been exposed nationally.
		But the real question is, how did it go on for so long?
		How did you allow it to happen for so long?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		They knew, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You all know, you want to know, like, what's real bad?
		What's real bad is like.
		The amount of money that California has wasted, if their solution is to try to tax people.
		Have you ever seen what they did with the high speed rail?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, nothing.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		They spent billions of dollars.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's some guy who broke down how much high speed rail China did in the same time that it took California to do their high speed rail.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's actually funny.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I've done some rail out of China, I'll tell you that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it's the same stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think we're talking about different things.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		No, China, dude, they're doing.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, it's weird when you start thinking, hey, China looks like a good place to live.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They've got their shit together, I'll tell you that.
		A lot of these places with kings, they really know how to run things.
		They do a real solid job.
unidentified		They fucking do.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Poland's got their shit together, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They do have their shit together.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they were communists not that long ago, you know?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Poland's got their shit.
		They don't let any of this influence.
		Spain, I feel like, is taking their shit back.
unidentified		True.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		They're picking up their toys.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've got to find this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Here it is.
unidentified		This is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is actually funny when you see like the comparison between like what China's done and what we've done in the same amount of time.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's actually kind of funny.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I want to say thanks too to this lady, Sarah Wychek.
		I just gave, she just came and helped me get blood a little while ago.
		And she was, she's just a nurse practitioner and you could tell she was just working hard.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She hooked you up?
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		She was just like, you know, showed up and just like, just got it done for me.
		You could tell she just like is a hardworking lady.
		I admire hardworking women.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, what about hardworking men?
		Do you like them?
		That's it, Jamie.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, they should be.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So look at this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Things that happen faster than you.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Who's this fucking gooner, though?
		Who's that dude?
		Is that Nelk?
		Fuck, he fell off.
harrison baum ▲ ● ▼		In 15 years.
		Dubai, going from barren desert wasteland to barren culture wasteland.
		Timothy Chalamet's entire existence.
		iPhone 1 through 17.
		And the internet.
		Follow for more bullshit.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I love that guy.
		That's Harrison Baum.
		Good for him.
		That's crazy, isn't it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they just took billions of dollars in taxes and they go, oh, we're working on it.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But where, here's everything is fraud.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You're starting to realize it's all fraud.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, if it's not fraud, it's waste and it's bureaucracy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So they keep the money coming in so they keep people working, but the people don't do anything.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And let's do, and we can't even fucking keep the TSA workers.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I fucking snuck a half a handful of goldfish to a fucking TSA worker the other day, the edible ones, just to fucking keep them going, dude, out there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You gave them some goldfish?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're not even getting paid.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		They just started getting back pay.
		But still, it's just, but the fact that that's like a crazy, like that they're the least priority.
		Like, bro, flying is fucking super important, you dummies.
		You want to keep the economy going?
		You got to let people fly around.
		They got shit to do, man.
		You can't just fucking not pay the TSA people, you fucking idiots.
		How come you get paid?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How come you get paid?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm just sick of this shit.
		And I'm sick of rich people not putting their fucking kids over in these wars and shit like that.
		Put your fucking honky ass kids up there, let them go spend.
		Shed some fucking blood.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Especially if you're asking for it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Especially if you're out there fucking bullshitting, dude.
		Put your fucking honky little fancy ass fucking kid up there, man.
		Shit makes me mad, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think there's also a problem.
		The people that I've talked to that have served overseas and have been involved and deployed in military operations and seen a lot of shit, there are a lot of them who are of the opinion that you shouldn't be able to make those decisions if you've never been to war.
		You don't know what it is, you don't know what you're sending people to do.
		It doesn't mean you're not still going to be a tyrant because there are some people, like clearly Netanyahu's been to war.
		You know, he's been, he was in the military.
		He was involved in some shit.
		Was he?
		Yeah, and he was like a special forces operator in Israel.
		And clearly he doesn't mind going to war.
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theo von ▲ ● ▼		I think most war is a unique term.
		War is a fucking terrifying term.
		But I mean, I wouldn't call what he does war, but I think.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You mean what they're doing right now with Gaza?
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And I'm not jumping on you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Iran is war.
		That's war.
		Iran's a real enemy.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Are they an enemy to America?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, what they are is the largest country in terms of state sponsored terrorism.
		They're the largest sponsor of terrorism.
		But also, you've got to think why.
		And this is not excusing anybody for.
		Islamist ideology because it's scary because they want a global caliphate, right?
		They're radicals.
		But you got to go back to what happened in that country.
		And if you go back to what happened in that country, they tried to nationalize oil.
		Iran was like a westernized country.
		Girls were wearing miniskirts.
unidentified		Everybody's hot.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You seen that video from the 70s of Iran?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, bro.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's just popping.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's popping.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What happened is slowly but surely and quickly at first because when they tried to nationalize oil, the CIA swooped in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they fucking got that guy out of office and they allowed these Islamic radicalists to start running the country.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's when Hezbollah started, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know exactly when Hezbollah started, but the point is the country was doing fine before we monkeyed with it.
		And we monkeyed with it because they were not getting enough of the money from the oil.
		So it was the British Petroleum Company, I think.
		Put it into perplexity the story of Iran.
		Their government being overthrown, I think it was in the 1950s.
		So when you see how it all played out and why it is what it is today, Jesus Christ, you'd be mad too.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And when you're mad and you're surrounded by bigger enemies that all have nuclear weapons, you don't even have nuclear weapons, wouldn't you be trying to make them?
		You know what I'm saying?
		Like, I'm not saying Iran should have nuclear weapons.
		I don't think anybody should have nuclear weapons.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Israel gets to have them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Allegedly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is the problem.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Allegedly.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Everything's allegedly with them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Allegedly with them.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Except for the genocide.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, they don't officially have them.
		I don't think they admit they officially have them.
		And you know who is a big opponent of Israel getting nuclear weapons?
unidentified		JFK.
		JFK.
		Hmm.
		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what a lot of people think led back into the left.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Before they killed him, who?
		I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So the Iranian Revolution, also called the Islamic Revolution, was a mass uprising in Iran, overthrew the Shah's monarchy in 1979, replaced it with an Islamic Republic led by Ayatollah Roula Khomeini.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Shadar Rouko.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I want you to go back to the national.
		Ask it a question of what were the events that led to them trying to nationalize their oil?
		Here it is.
		No, that's not it.
		So, what was banned real opposition using secret police to surreal jail?
		Just put into ask another question.
		What were the events that took place after Iran tried to nationalize oil?
unidentified		Just ask that question.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What are the events that took place when Iran tried to nationalize oil?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Bro, fuck oil.
		I'd rather walk if this is a shit that's going to come out of all of it.
		You feel me?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The problem is, it's not just oil for your car, it's everything you use.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Plastic is these petroleum based chemicals are responsible for medicine.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But it's also getting in our nuts now, and people can't even fucking read anymore because of it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		So it's like, what is all that stuff helping us anymore?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, here it is.
		So Iran's attempt to nationalize its oil in the 1950s unfolded as a chain of political, economic, and international conflicts.
		Confrontations centered on Prime Minister Mohammed Mosad.
		How do you say his name?
		Mogaday?
		Mosaday?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Let me see.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Mosaday.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Mosaday.
		And British controlled Anglo Iranian oil company.
		I'll walk you through the key events.
		But it had to do with who was in control of the oil before that, like who was making the money before that.
		I know Perplexity is going to give us the fucking tinfoil hat story of how it went down.
		But the bottom line is.
		People are making a lot of money over there in oil, and they wanted most of the money, and they got boxed out, and then they wound up with a fucking psychotic dictator.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And a lot of the, I mean, if you look back on what Iran looked like when it was a westernized country, like, damn, we should have fucking supported whatever the fuck was going on back then.
unidentified		I know.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I think, do you feel like we used to do things that were better, and then we got.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Here's the tinfoil hat version.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I love how Perplexity gives you a tinfoil hat version.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I'm asking you to receive.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Nice.
		The story is basically Iran tried to take back its oil.
		The British and Americans teamed up in secret to crush that idea and send a warning to the rest of the world.
		Britain had built its empire and navy on cheap Iranian oil via the Anglo Iranian Oil Company, later British Petroleum Company.
		So when Mossadegh, I don't want to say his name, I keep fucking it up, London saw it as a direct threat to its global power and profits.
		Elites feared that if Iran got away with nationalizing its oil, other countries of the Middle East would.
		Would be on and beyond would copy destroying Western oil monopolies, so they were determined to make Iran an example.
		Look, bro, we've been monkeying around with other countries forever.
		This thing in Venezuela, this real quick thing that happened real quick, went there and kidnapped a dude in Venezuela.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot of it says it's because these are the countries that are still outside of the Rothschild's banking system or whatever.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen that thing?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I have not.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Where it's like, there's the countries that are still not on that list or something.
		This is tinfoil stuff, I think.
		Or it's absolutely true.
		I have no idea.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot going on right now, right?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm scared, dude.
		I'm scared.
		I'll be honest with you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you should be.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm scared.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a scary time because this is a real world war.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		People are scared.
		People come up and people tell me about it.
		I was in an Uber yesterday, and there's a man in there.
		He was driving, and he's like, We need a revolution, you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He's like, You have a voice.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He's telling me stuff like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And I was like, No, no, don't take Ubers anymore.
		Stop taking Ubers.
		Rent a car, motherfucker.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm not renting a car.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why would you rent a car?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't rent cars?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Bro, you think I'm going to go be at the.
		Renting a car is insane.
		You have to check under it, see if there's any dents in it, if there's any, like.
		And then you have to do all this stuff.
		Renting a car is a nightmare.
		Dude, I will tell you this story.
		The one time we rented, we did rent a car.
		And we got a dent on it, like a pretty good dang.
		And we fucking.
		We caught a pigeon and had it shit over the dent to fill it in whenever we turned it in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, you didn't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is not a true story.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we did.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You caught a pigeon?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you think it's hard to catch a pigeon?
unidentified		I do.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Bro, bring up a pigeon getting caught.
unidentified		Mike Tyson had a lot of them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bro, yeah, but he raised them.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but dude, he had fucking autism in his hands after a couple years.
		You don't think it's hard to catch a pigeon?
		The dumbest bird ever, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you just put the shit over the dent?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you hang it over your.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How big was this dent we're talking about?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, these fucking pigeons shit all day, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So you just hold them there until they're done?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what are you, some kind of shit cop or whatever?
		Yeah, we fucking put them over the dent, bro.
		That's why God wants you to help him.
		That's my insurance.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, this one's all fucked up, though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's not fair.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's because he has American health care.
		It's United Health Care.
		Dude, here's what I want to know.
		I guess, yeah, I don't know, man.
		Everybody just feels scared, and it makes sense.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they should because a lot of things are getting exposed right now.
		There's a lot of fraud, and you're seeing it at the highest levels of government.
		And people are also scared because no one's getting in trouble for things.
		No one's getting in trouble for the Epstein files.
		No one's getting in trouble for.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's almost disappeared, kind of.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's part of what happens when there's some sort of a big social thing.
		One thing that's in the past that leaders have used to cover up problems at home is a fucking war.
		I'm not saying that that's why they bombed Iran, but that would be a way to do it if you're that psychotic, you know, and if you were thinking about doing it anyway, you might be able to justify it.
		People have always done that also to stay in power.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Even Bill Clinton said that about Netanyahu.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bill Clinton said Netanyahu wants war so he could stay in power.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		For sure, dude.
		People call him the Yarmulke Hitler.
		That's what they call him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who are these people?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Everybody does.
unidentified		Which people?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Countless.
unidentified		People?
unidentified		Huh?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What are you saying?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean people?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Black folks?
unidentified		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what you're saying.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let's not draw conclusions.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Okay, yeah.
unidentified		Okay.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He seems like a great guy.
		No, really.
		No.
		Well, it's just a scary time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a scary time because people are willing to blow people up with fucking drones and missiles, and they're shooting into apartment buildings and blowing up schools.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, fuck, man.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And we didn't.
		I think that we've been poisoned.
		I do think that we've been poisoned.
		How so?
		Because I think that, like, we find out that our food is, a lot of our food is poisonous, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Or a lot of our food is not good for us.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sorry, not good for us.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		So we have a healthcare system, we have food that is made to be not good for us.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And then we have a healthcare system that'll just kind of take care of you, right?
unidentified		Barely.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Barely.
		So then you start to create this other, like, you're going to need your autism gang that are up there running shit.
		But then you're going to need this sort of, like, mollusky sort of, like, the worker bees.
		And that's what the rest of us start to become as worker bees because, you know, you're on antidepressants killed like the vibe and the energy of so many people, right?
		Like the opioid epidemic, like you broke apart so many families and ruined hope and so many like kids and parents and homes and like the COVID where you shut down recovery rooms and places where people were meeting and so they were so disconnected.
		And then it's like you just start to wonder why there's no uprisings because there's nothing rising up inside of you anymore because a lot of your.
		Your vitrol has been killed.
		People are jerking off into fucking robots and even just on car batteries and shit in some of those videos online.
		But car batteries, people will come on everything.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What happens when you hit the two posts?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Does your jizz explode?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I gotta be grounded.
unidentified		I would have to go.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's a real fucking weirdo.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't want that jolt coming back to the tip.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You imagine if it was like one solid stream and the electricity jumped, made it back to the tip.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But dude, that could happen too with that robot if you're trying to hump that robot.
unidentified		Right.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And that thing shored out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Phones shored out.
		You remember those old phones that would blow up in people's cars?
		Like the Note.
		It was one of the Note series.
		Like people's cars would catch on fire if you left it plugged in.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What if that happens to your dick?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And people would always.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And people would just always leave it plugged in next to their wife at night for fucking no reason.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		On top of your wife.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It just balances out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's fucking bursts and flames and lights are on fire.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But do you know what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Successor.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I think we've been poisoned just enough to, like, it feels like just to hurt, but not.
		Like, we just have to start.
		I think it's a time where, like, we have to try and work on our and, like, look inside of ourselves.
		I don't know.
		Do I sound fucking preachy?
		I'm sorry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, you don't sound preachy, but you're on to something.
		There was some file.
		I didn't read it, but a bunch of people sent it to me.
		I just went, oh, Jesus.
		It was from the Freedom of Information Act or some leak from the 1950s with the CIA, and they were trying to think of different ways to make people.
		Docile and stupid and unmotivated.
		And they were talking about different medications, putting stuff in food, all these different strategies to keep people stupid.
		This is our own government.
		US, United States of America.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's another thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that not treasonous?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		So, why?
		And yeah, it just feels like there's no recourse.
		And I know, like, you start to think, well, this is how a lot of people have lived their entire centuries in different countries and stuff like that.
		Like, they live under this type of oppression and, like, fear all the time.
		But it feels new here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I want to know what exactly.
		Could you put that into our lovely sponsor, Perplexity, and find out what the fuck was said in that CIA document?
		What were they actually planning?
		Because it's the idea that there's people in government that would just say, fuck millions of people and their potential in life.
		Let's tank their potential so we can get our agenda through easier without them being upset.
		Let's ruin millions of people's lives or at least dampen their dreams.
		Squash their hopes.
		Make them stupid and lazy.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Make their kids sick.
		Put pornography and let it be into the home so that.
		It's accessible everywhere.
		So, marriages get ruined and relationships get ruined.
		The guys are just spunking out on wherever.
		And so, there's no energy.
		There's no fucking desire inside of people to overcome.
		And it's like, yeah, we have to just try and do better one day at a time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		For men, their ambition in life is often connected to wanting girls to like them or guys to like them, whatever it is.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And purpose, creating.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that's the other part.
		Purpose and creating is like the ultimate.
		That's like the ultimate is.
		It's almost like you're doing a service.
		Like, whatever you're doing, if you're doing it your best, your real reward is that people enjoy it.
		Whatever it is.
		Whether you're a carpenter or a musician or whatever it is.
		If you're doing something at your best, the ultimate reward is people enjoying it.
		That's the ultimate enjoyment.
		But you have to figure that out in life.
		You're probably thinking of declassified CAA mind control and behavior modification experience like Bluebird, Artichoke.
		Artichoke is it.
		That's it.
		Especially MKUltra, which did run in the 1950s and 60s.
		Okay, Bluebird, MKUltra.
		What does make people stupid in cognition?
		CIA efforts to use drugs, hypnosis, and other techniques.
		No, that's interrogation.
		That's different.
		Perfect concussion effort, often referenced alongside MKUltra, explicitly explored using suboral blasts to erase memory.
unidentified		Whoa.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Erasing or degrading memory is practically a way of disabling a person cognitively.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Even if that is not described as making them stupid in official language.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it feels like we're just stuck in an experiment.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I feel like this is not it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		This isn't it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
		This was.
		So why don't you run a search for recently disclosed CIA files to make people.
unidentified		I mean.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I had Doselin first and it didn't give me anything better.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That's why I tried looking on Twitter.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay.
		Put in using vaccines to make people stupid.
		Or suggesting vaccines make people stupid.
		Why?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Because it's taking me to somewhere, talking about this on Facebook.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Perfect.
		I love Facebook.
		But the conspiracy theorists are looking pretty sane right now.
		Okay, this is Evie Magazine.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's going on here?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You have to type in your email and they won't let you watch it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But yo, I don't think what you're saying, the things you're saying, I don't think that.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't seem like an American idea to me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's okay, Jim.
		Forget it.
		But it's not an American idea.
		If you can find it, please do.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Can you do Google too or you can't do it?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just look everywhere.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, have you noticed some things are harder to find?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, this is probably going to be hard to find because I think this is one of those ones that is like, it's on X. Right.
		I know, like, people are going over it, but I don't know if it's even been verified.
		This is one of the reasons why I wanted to put it through Perplexity.
		Because there's a lot of stuff you read that's just complete horror, especially today.
		April Fools, motherfucker.
unidentified		Is it?
		April Fools.
		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't get tricked.
unidentified		Fuck.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Stay off the news.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I just gave some random lady my blood in the parking lot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's going to use that for a ritual.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Clone you, son.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have little baby Theos, like those little videos that pop up of us.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, my favorite part of the video is at the end when you just kind of bounce out of your chair.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're laughing so hard.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is this it?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		This is it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, what does it say?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		A video of someone talking about Project Artichoke.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What does it say, essentially?
		That's Kim Iverson.
		She's pretty good.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		White Iverson.
kim iversen ▲ ● ▼		Artichoke.
		So this says, look, we've got this.
		Grand idea of how we're basically going to drug people and do all kinds of weird experiments on them to see if we could control their minds.
		These documents don't show that anything was actually done.
		It just shows that we've got these really crazy ideas and they're extremely unethical, inhumane, terrible, terrible ideas.
		The 1977 leak of documents say, Oh yeah, well, actually the government did it.
		They did all of those terrible things they said they were doing in that previous memo.
		They did it.
		And now here's some of the archives that we have from when they did all of those terrible things.
		So, okay, these documents, special research For artichoke dated April 21st, 1952.
		The memo proposes developing long term covert drugs that could be slipped into daily life.
		Drugs that were, quote, administered over a considerable period of time, possibly being placed in food or water that caused either agitation or depression.
		These fluoride should include chemicals or drugs that can be effectively concealed in common items such as food, water, Coca Cola, beer, liquor, cigarettes, et cetera, and should also be capable of use in standard medical treatments such as vaccinations and shock.
		We can do all this other experimentation, which nobody will know about.
		It's sneaky.
		Sneak it into their Coca Cola.
		Sneak it into their beer, their cigarettes, their vaccines, their medications.
		Let's sneak it all in.
		Oh, those wild conspiracy theorists, they strike again.
		They have no morals.
		They have no ethics.
		They have no humanity.
		These documents, I mean, these people are inhumane.
		They're sick.
		They're twisted.
		This is terrible.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Way to go, Kim Iverson.
		She killed it.
		She used to be on.
		Which show was she on?
		Not Breaking Points.
		What was the show that they did before Breaking Points?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Kim Iverson?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't 227, was it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She got booted off because Fauci was coming on and she wanted to question Fauci about the COVID vaccines.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they kicked her off the show and she went independent.
unidentified		Good for her.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Which is how it always goes.
unidentified		Yep.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can't talk too much shit, even though it's pretty obvious that guy's a criminal.
		Pretty fucking obvious.
		That guy's a liar, lied in front of Congress, was responsible for gain of function research that led to who knows how many fucking people dying of a man made disease, whatever, whatever.
		Just don't question.
		You can't work here anymore.
		You're not playing ball.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're not playing along.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, look, but now she can do stuff like this.
unidentified		Good for her.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's nuts that your tax dollars pay for that.
		Them figuring out how to make people stupid.
		How do I make Theo stupid?
		Let me slip something into his Coca Cola.
		Let's figure out if it works.
		Let's experiment on random people and see what kind of results we get.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Then here's my question then.
		Well, did you know whenever they introduced antidepressants, that changed the cognitive therapy side of things, like in therapist's office?
		It totally revolutionized, industrialized therapy, and it ruined a lot of people, I think.
		One of my goals is to get off of antidepressants completely, man.
		I want to feel how I'm supposed to feel so I can have thoughts and actions that make me feel connected to the world.
		That shit makes you feel dead, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, why did you take them in the first place?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Because I was in a bad relationship 20 years ago and I was having a tough day at school and they fucking put them to me and then I never got off.
		Really?
		Because when you get off, I think we talked about this once, it's hard.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it makes you more depressed and more fucked up and you're all imbalanced and you probably are addicted to them.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And so that's one of my goals is.
		And I noticed, like, for me, I've been taking, like, Methyl Blue.
		I've been doing some things, like, and I'm working with a doctor to help me, but I'm going to get there.
		And I'm just going to start to take the power back of myself more.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they say that exercise is, like, many times greater in its effect at alleviating depression.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I wake up and I do my yoga, and I do, like, a 35 minute workout.
		I'll do, like, six exercises, five runs of it in a row.
		That's 30 exercises.
		Burn through them bitches.
		And if I do that when I get up in the morning, bro, I am good.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine all day.
		And I'm also more positive because I've already taken care of myself in a way that I feel is sufficient enough for me to keep operating and moving forward.
		But yeah, I want to get away from the bad stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the medicine, man, which is really crazy.
		That's the medicine.
		It's just hard for people to take because it requires effort and it requires discipline.
		You have to do it when you don't want to do it.
		And there's a lot of times where you're not going to want to do it, a lot of times you're feeling kind of fucking tired.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		When we have to, and I think that's what, yeah, maybe we just, yeah, like, I just need to keep going.
		This is the best I've been doing.
		I think so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why don't you hire a trainer?
		You got some cheddar.
		You got some cash, son.
		You're making that paper.
		Why don't you hire a trainer?
unidentified		I do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Hire a dude that's cool that'll come over your fucking house and do that.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		This dude's touching my body a little bit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't have to touch your body.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Joe, some of them do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you got to get new ones.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're doing something wrong.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But some of them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You got to say no.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I am saying no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Repeat after me.
unidentified		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't touch my butt when I'm in a deep squat.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't help.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I don't like that song.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to tick your asshole.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's going to make you want to explode to the top.
unidentified		Ready, go.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's knuckle deep in your bunghole trying to convince you so you can get more reps.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He's fucking.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's got to happen.
		It's like a fucking big jack gay trainer.
		Like, praise on guys that are kind of weak with small hips.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He's like, I bet you can't do this with my cock in your butt.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And you're like, that's a crazy.
pierre poilievre ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
unidentified		Why are you suggesting this?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But the crazy part is, dude, I had a trainer one time.
		If you were doing like a dumbbell press, he would kind of squat you from the elbows, kind of.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that's fine.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But I noticed this one time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He rubbed his dick on your butt.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		Did he?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He was right behind you.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		No, he didn't.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		He did.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're blocking it out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Maybe that's why you need therapy.
unidentified		I don't know, bro.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, if some.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I know all the dicks I've ever seen in my life, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		All of them?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How many have you seen?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Jesus Christ.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Honestly?
unidentified		It's not that many.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Alive and in person?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jamie could count them on one hand.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jamie's only seen a handful of dicks, and two of them are Ari's.
unidentified		Dang.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Definitely the most recent one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ari's pissed in fucking kombucha bottles in this room so many times.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He is such an animal.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He is kombucha.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He has kombucha in him, I feel like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's all he is.
		He has an emperor.
		Piss anymore, it's fermented.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		No, but this guy would touch my elbow and he would kind of like must he would do a slight like massage on him, and that's when it kind of cooked me up.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You got a vape in here by chance, Joe?
unidentified		No, we got this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You want a cigar?
		We got smelling salts.
		You want a cigar?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		No, they make me sick.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		They do, yeah, it makes me feel sad.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sad, yeah, no, I gave up on those nicotine vapes are very addictive, yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Boy, I know, I'd give up, they make you great.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They grab you grab for them, you want to take a hit off of them, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Even if you, I, and I decided at one point in time, I'm not.
unidentified		Taking these anymore.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm stopping with these.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I remember, dude.
		Remember, you and I were using them one time.
		We kept using that thing, and yeah.
		Oh, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's something in them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not just the nicotine.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you a story.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because, like, these things, like Alps, I have no problem not taking these.
		I went on a trip, like a 10 day trip.
		I didn't bring any nicotine pouches.
		I didn't miss it at all.
		I was fine.
unidentified		Well, I'll say this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But not those vapes, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Those vapes call you.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, some of that shit's a lot, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They call you.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But, yeah, you got to kind of manage it or whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you ain't managing shit, son.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You're right.
		You're right about that.
		Okay, girl.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I think out of all the things that are, you know, not a drug, drug, but, you know, nicotine is kind of a drug, but, you know, obviously could be totally functional on it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the one in the vapes that's the most addictive.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And, but, yeah, you're talking about like recreational type, not like antidepressants, things like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
		Of course.
		Not like cocaine or, you know.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But, but here's the thing about them, man.
		They're only good for one hit.
		It's the first hit of the day.
		The first hit off a vape is fucking wonderful.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're like, ah.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I blow that smoke on your mother, son.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Nature just shines down upon you.
		Just feel relaxed.
		But it's only one.
		After that, you're just chasing that dragon and you keep, you're not getting anything out of it.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Every time, you're just getting like nervous, like, and you're like hitting it again.
		Fucking hands are shaking.
		You go too far.
		But you don't get that one feel.
		It's the same thing with a cigarette.
		With a cigarette, really what you want is the first couple of hits.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you get that lightness of head, like, ah, and then put them down.
		The problem is, you're always chasing that dragon and you never get it.
		That's why everybody loves the first cigarette of the day.
		They sit there with that first cigarette of the day and a cup of coffee and you're like, I got ideas.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, I got fucking ideas.
unidentified		Write this down.
unidentified		Write this down.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, a lot of bands wrote most of their music on cigarettes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, Tony was talking about Pink Floyd.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, the Declaration of Independence people were all be hitting cigarettes back then.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		For sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They were smoking tobacco.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if they did pipes or what have you back then.
		I wonder when the cigarette was invented.
		Because if you think about it, like, pipes and cigars you don't inhale.
		You just take it in your mouth.
		But cigarettes, you like take into your lungs.
		I wonder when the first dude figured that you got to like suck it all in to get a full day.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Probably.
unidentified		Probably.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		For sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He wanted to suck everything.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Cigarettes, bananas, what have you.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		They were smoking cigarettes, or it just says drinking smoke, when Christopher Columbus and his crew discovered indigenous people in the Caribbean.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you mean Christopher Columbus was?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Or the indigenous people were?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It says they observed indigenous people in the Caribbean, in quotes, drinking smoke.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		But this isn't going back.
unidentified		That's a good point.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Probably drinking and smoking.
		Crisco was off that shit, bro.
		He was off that shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bro, did you ever read the things that Christopher Columbus did when they came to America?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He was a boss, I heard.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He was an evil man.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Was he?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
		They would cut people's arms off if they didn't bring them the right amount of gold.
		They were killing babies.
		They did some horrific shit, man.
unidentified		Huh.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They did horrific shit.
		The people that they found.
		Because they found these people had gold.
		And, you know, they.
		Like, if you think about how crazy it is that Mexico speaks Spanish, you know how crazy that is?
		You know how crazy it is?
		That's so far away from Spain.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's a good point.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They all speak Spanish and they're Catholic.
		Gee, where do you think that happened?
		Cortez.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That motherfucker showed up in the 1500s with like 600 dudes and 12 muskets.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They had like 12, they didn't even have musket rifles, they had musket pistols.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He was a boss.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they took over the whole fucking country.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I know, do you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Kind of crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, if you think about all these years later, they all speak Spanish now.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		That's nuts.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, do you think we could do something like that now?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Like, what do you think is going to happen?
unidentified		With Iran?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		No, just with that.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I mean, like, I feel like the shit that's happening out there is going to come here eventually.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it most certainly will.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if Homeland Security doesn't stop it in its tracks and they're doing a great job of preventing a lot of them, you know, there's a lot of things that they catch that you don't even hear about that are like, Terror cells they infiltrate, and but they know there's people in this country.
		That was the most fucked up thing about people being all nonchalant about the border being wide open for four years, yeah.
		Because men of military age entered into this country from foreign countries, and we have no idea why.
		We don't know if they're just honest people looking to make a better life for them and their family, send money back home that'd be best case scenario, but that's not all of them.
		So, what percentage of them are terrorists?
		What percentage of them?
		There's not, it's not zero, it ain't zero.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But what also, it's like, it's all just a cat and mouse game.
		People are like, we'll elect the Democrats next time.
		It's like, but it's all the same shit has been happening forever.
		They haven't been helping anybody forever.
		They're letting fucking politicians slurp on kids.
		All of our fucking money goes to Israel and they're using it to fucking genocide people.
		It's like everybody is scared out of their wits right now.
		It's like our religious leaders are afraid to speak out.
		And it's like the, it's a time where it's like Satan is amongst us and our religious leaders are fucking talking about bullshit at the poll.
		It's just like, what is going.
		I don't know, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We got to get you off the president, son.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're losing your fucking marbles.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You think I am?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Come hang out with us.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just chill out.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just chill out at the mothership tonight.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I do have to pee in a little while, but.
unidentified		You can pee.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to pee in a minute, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We'll let you.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But no, people are just scared, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is shit that I hear from people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They won't let you pee until you give them your guns.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's how they're doing it now.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But what do you have to wash the black face off the president?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Can you fucking use a little bit of piss?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, Canada had this big.
		They had this big gun thing, this law they passed where they made a bunch of guns illegal, and they found that only.
		I think it's a very small percentage of people.
		I think it's somewhere in the neighborhood.
		Find out what percentage of people have complied.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		They don't have any guns.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they do.
unidentified		They used to.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot of hunters up there, for sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But there's a lot of recreational guns and handguns and self defense weapons that people had that they recently made during Castro's kid when he was running the country when they recently made this ban.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I got to meet Castro one time.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Did I tell you that?
unidentified		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I want to hear that.
		But once I could.
		But data provided by Public Safety Canada shows that of March 27, 32,406 people signed up to participate in the program.
		They declared a total of 57,440 firearms, roughly 42% of what was projected.
		But they were talking about, oh, you know who has it on this page?
		It's Colion Noir.
		He has it here.
		I'll send it to you because.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		We've got to do this in Memphis, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of crazy.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can't let them take away your weapons.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Because how will you fight?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How will you fight?
		That's a very good question.
		Yeah, I saw Colion's video.
		Here it is.
		Yeah, this is it.
		Here, play this.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Type shit right here.
unidentified		We're in response?
		Cool.
		We're sending police to your house.
dane lloyd ▲ ● ▼		The declaration period for firearms owners is scheduled to end next week.
dane lloyd ▲ ● ▼		So far, only 2.5% of the estimated 2 million affected firearms have been declared.
unidentified		2%.
dane lloyd ▲ ● ▼		And 98% of firearms owners haven't made a declaration.
unidentified		Canada banned 2,500 types of firearms, gave gun owners until March 31st, essentially today, to declare them.
		One week before the deadline, 2.5% compliance.
		2.5% compliance.
		That's not a slow rollout.
		That's a full on rejection.
dane lloyd ▲ ● ▼		So, if they're not declaring by next week, what's your plan, Minister?
gary anandasangaree ▲ ● ▼		The plan we have is as of March 31st, the time to complete the enrollment will be done.
gary anandasangaree ▲ ● ▼		And then the RCMP and other agencies will be available throughout the spring and the summer to do the collection.
unidentified		The collection?
		Wow.
		Like he's speaking about dry cleaning, not firearms, not property that belonged to law abiding citizens before the government decided to keep going anymore.
dane lloyd ▲ ● ▼		So, Minister, you're saying that RCMP members, we just heard an Auditor General report saying we're short 3,400 members.
		We're dealing with a wave of violent crime across this country.
		And you're saying that your plan is over the spring and the summer to deploy RCMP officers to go door to door to firearms owners and seize their firearms?
gary anandasangaree ▲ ● ▼		So, this is a voluntary program, Mr. Lloyd, as you're aware.
		And the RCMP resources and the resources we will use with law enforcement do not contemplate in any way using existing resources.
		These are additional resources.
		So, these are Those who are off duty, those who may be retired.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Go back in.
gary anandasangaree ▲ ● ▼		I can ask you to do that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're going to take retired people to go door to door.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's like their new ice.
dane lloyd ▲ ● ▼		There are officers door to door because, frankly, many police forces across the country are refusing to participate in your program.
unidentified		And here's the part that should make your jaw hit the floor.
unidentified		The Minister of Public Safety, the guy running this entire program, was secretly recorded saying the gun grab isn't worth the money.
pierre poilievre ▲ ● ▼		The Minister of Public Safety accidentally told the truth, and he was recorded doing it.
pierre poilievre ▲ ● ▼		He said that the gun grab is not worth the money.
unidentified		He doubts local police will have the resources to enforce the Liberals' mandatory gun buyback program and says the reason the Prime Minister is sticking with the policy is to appease voters in Quebec.
		He privately admitted the police can't even look at his face.
		He said they're doing it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The face that they're pulling votes in the sky.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This was never about safety.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Go back to his name.
		Go back to his name.
		If you can't, it was Ananana Siddiquity.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Whatever his name is.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I'm saying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I want him to go door to door.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You go door to door, bitch.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You go door to door and do this shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You go door to door, bitch.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You want to do that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How about you do it?
		He's talking about getting retired people to go door to door and take people.
		You're going to get someone shot, stupid.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's just like our draft now.
		They're like, now it's 42.
		Now it's 47.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you could have a marijuana arrest now?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're letting anybody in that bitch.
unidentified		You little weed.
		What's the big thing?
		Come on.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But dude, here's the part to me that's like you start to see like the change.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		in the armor or whatever, and no offense, anybody.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're allowed to say that, chink in the armor?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But they know who they think are.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying anything about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know you're not, but people think that.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm not.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I hear you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You can't say spick and span anymore either.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You can't say spick and span?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can, but you shouldn't.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You gotta whisper it.
unidentified		Hey.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That guy should be forced to go door to door.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Go door to door in a bright orange vest with a circle in the center of it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was just gonna get his name because I wanted to say that guy's a pussy and go do your own shit.
		That fucking.
		That freaking little home.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Doughboy.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that little fucking, that little sloppy brand muffin.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sloppy muffin top.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Get your, that's his name right there.
unidentified		Gary.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And I'm going to disagree.
unidentified		And, that's what I said.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And, and, and, Of course, that's what we're saying, man.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yo, that's what we're saying.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		They want us all vulnerable.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they do.
		They would much rather that because, look, what's the difference between America and everywhere else?
		One of the big differences is we're fucking heavily armed.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's why it's a real problem to try to take over America.
		And it's in our Declaration of Independence, it's in the Bill of Rights.
		It's like that, this, you know, the right to an armed militia, the right to keep and bear arms and to have an armed militia.
		Like, that's.
		And people are like, what is that for?
		Well, that's to keep you from being taken over by tyrants who have guns.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's one thing that's interesting to me RFK was on not long ago, and he was saying that 75%, and I could be off by a few percent, of young men can't.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		77% aren't eligible for military service.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		So this is the hilarious part to me now.
		Now they've poisoned us so much that they don't even have healthy people to serve in the military.
		And now they're still like, I feel like these powers that be are like in this tough spot now.
		We're like, fuck, we poisoned them too much.
		They can't even go spill their blood for us, you know?
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they can't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's enough that can.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But they're widening these things.
		It's like with the ice now that, like, if you're 65 and have decent vision, you can be an eye.
		You know, they're letting it just like, it kept getting bigger.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ice, you only have seven weeks of training.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You think about that's not even what you get in the police force.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's crazy.
		We had more than that for fucking T ball when I was a kid.
		And Mr. Rick, dude, remember when you had T ball and your coach was just some dude who had a name?
		He was like, that's our coach, Rick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just imagine this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Imagine if you had seven weeks of training and you had to go into a jiu-jitsu tournament.
unidentified		I know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You would get fucking smoked.
		You would get fucking smoked.
		You don't know what you're doing.
		You barely know what you're doing.
		You're going to make a bunch of mistakes.
unidentified		Yes, I would.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Seven weeks of training in that is even scarier because you've got guns and you're going out in the street and you're arresting people.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's, but it's all, it's like it, not more than ever, it feels like theater.
		And it feels like it's been theater for a while.
		And it feels like, maybe this is crazy, but it feels like we're at the last cusp before something weird is gonna happen.
		Didn't you say something weird might happen, Jamie?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jamie's always saying that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jamie's always, he's tuned in.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Is he like that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jamie's got an ear for weird.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Even blacks are getting scared, though.
unidentified		For real?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but they're more scared of like the Trump movement, you know, totalitarianism and fascism.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I think they're getting, you know, they see these ostracized, they see these communities of people out there getting abused and shit, and I think it reflects in them somewhere, you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You mean like with ice?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that what you're saying?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		No, with like, you know, you see, you know, there's a lot of brown people getting murdered on fucking TikTok all the time, like, you know, in the Middle East.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And I think you see that and it makes them hyped up or, you know, it activates.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, everybody should be upset about that.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But the idea that the only way to solve problems is by dropping bombs on people is so crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's still the move in 2026.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But I don't think it's happening.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But however, if you are faced with an evil dictator that has his eyes on a global caliphate, And is developing nuclear bombs, you can't be all fucking kumbaya.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But the question is like, how does that get resolved?
unidentified		Right.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's the question.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How do you make sure, how can you even know that they cannot be capable of having nuclear weapons?
		And for the last 20 years, they've been preparing and stockpiling missiles and developing.
		What is the.
		They have some crazy thing I was seeing online where it's like they almost have a mountain and dug deep into the ground, they have these missile elevators.
		And like the missiles are like hidden deep into the ground, where the only way you could destroy that facility is with like a nuke.
		And they just did it specifically knowing that they were going to get bombed.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, they did Top Gun movie where Miles Teller flew in there.
		And then a year later, we did that in Iran.
		Or a few years later, we did that in Iran.
		Like, isn't it kind of crazy?
		Like, it just all seems bizarre where they had to fire a nuke down or they had to fire a missile down into the thing, remember?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I didn't see that movie.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It was good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I bet it was.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It actually was good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I like the first one.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we made a movie too.
		I got to tell you about our movie.
		I can't forget.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You made a movie.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I don't mean to interrupt about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But let's find out what.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What was I asking before we moved on?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		The Iranian missile thing?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is that elevator thing that they have?
		They have some underground, like deep underground.
		Someone was explaining it online.
		They have a very unique method of protecting their missiles from being bombed.
		So they have their storage is like deep, deep underground.
		I think that's one of the things that they were just attacking recently.
		Like we were dropping bombs on them recently.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I don't think we're over there doing that for ourselves, though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't seem like it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't seem like it's in our best interest.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think?
		Why do you think?
		Then what is it that Israel holds over America that we do those things?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, first of all, there's a lot of people that donated to the Trump campaign that have significant influence over him that lobby for Israel.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they're very beholden to Israel.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		So that's just capitalism, then, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So IDF uncovers Iran missile megacities.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe anything they say.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's hard to know because this is all AI, right?
unidentified		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is this real?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It looked like it was, but.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is this real?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Honestly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This looks AI.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Some of it does look AI, but that video of those guys walking right through.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's so hard to know these days, man.
		It's so hard to know.
		You know, this is like if I was Iran, I'd make a video like that.
		Look at all my bums.
		Look at my big cock.
unidentified		And look at my bums.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Out of a big old dick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Big old dick like a third leg and a bunch of bums.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm fucking sick of my dick.
unidentified		Really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Give it a break.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You'll leave for a couple days and you'll miss it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I've had a lot of thoughts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I vacation from your dick.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Bro, there's times I wanted to just mail my dick to Africa or whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Just feed it back.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They'll never send it back.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But I'm saying to feed a couple people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it'll feed a couple.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Bro, it'll, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't even think it'll feed one.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Get out of here, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Might keep them alive for a few hours, bro.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It would be lunch, at least lunch for two.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Someone on a diet.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Someone cutting weight for wrestling.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Or that dude that tried to cut weight because he wasn't gay anymore.
		Remember, I told you about that dude?
		He lost 40 pounds, dude.
		He was just fucking ribs and dick by the end of it, dude.
unidentified		That guy.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I got to pee really back in a joint.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, pause.
unidentified		Pause.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.
unidentified		We'll be right back.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Theo Vaughn, David Spade, Bus Boys in theaters, April 17th.
		Did you finance this, dude?
		Did you fucking do this shit with your own money?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You wild motherfucker, you.
unidentified		Wow.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		We wrote it and we did it all.
		There's no studio attached to it.
		There's nobody.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Tim Dillon's in it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Tim did a good job.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's awesome.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He is awesome.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He really is.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He's my, he's one of my favorites.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no doubt.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He's one of a kind.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that Nate Diaz?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Bro, he was so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that Lewis J?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Whoa.
		No.
		Who's in it?
		Cam Patterson, Trevor Wallace.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Nice, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's it about?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's about two guys and they're just regular guys and they're not doing that good.
		And then they think if they can, one of them loses his girlfriend to a waiter.
		And they think if they can become waiters, that they can get his girlfriend back.
		And they have to start at Bus Boys.
		And they don't get very far.
		So that's pretty much it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Spoiler alert.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It was crazy, though, dude.
		I mean, I think there's just like a thing about like, like nobody, like it's just we made it ourselves.
		Like we wrote it, we did it.
		There's no fucking somebody saying, I can't put this in it.
		Like some of the streamers are like, nah, it's too edgy for us or whatever.
		Fuck them, then.
		You're out.
		You know what I'm saying?
		We're doing our own shit.
		And so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you sell it to a movie distributor?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How did you get it into movie theaters?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		We just.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how any of that stuff works.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I don't know either.
		We have a guy who's handling some of the business side of it.
		My friend Ezra's handling some of the business side of it.
unidentified		He's great.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And so he's been helping us out and gotten it into the theaters.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who directed it?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		This guy, Jonah Feingold, this guy out of New York, and great guy.
		And yeah, we just, we asked our friends to help, and it was, yeah, I mean, it was ridiculous.
		We shot it right during like the fires, when the fires were happening in the Palisades.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So it was like, you shot it in California?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Wow.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I don't know why exactly, but oh, because there was nothing shooting there.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		They don't shoot things there anymore.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that crazy?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Imagine people have been so greedy and fucking attacked.
		They fucked themselves so much they can't even fucking do the one thing that they're most known for, Hollywood.
		They can't even fucking do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's so crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's gross.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's not just crazy, but it's gross, though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It is gross.
		It's all the government.
		It's all government.
		It's all government policies, regulations, taxes, all the things that make it unprofitable to do business there.
		People just pulling up shop.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And there's all these, yeah, there's so many guilds you have to pay.
		It's like, I don't see how these people, I don't see how like a day to day actor could survive.
		And they don't, and they leave.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A lot of guys are fucked.
		I was just watching this video with this guy.
		I've seen him in a ton of movies.
		And he's like, Blue collar actors are just not doing well right now.
		He's like, I had to sell my house.
		You know, a lot of people are just going to television shows because there's no money in films anymore.
		He goes, I used to be able to make a living in films.
		And he's like, I didn't make a lot of money because he's just, you know, the guy who has a small part in the movie here, small part in the movie there.
		So he's getting by and he gets to take his family to the movie and they get to see the dad on screen.
		It's cool.
		You know, he's paying his bills, doing well.
		But he's not getting wealthy.
		Right?
		The stars get wealthy.
		But those dudes that you need, you know, the guy that plays the cop, the guy that plays this person, those guys are fucked.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, I have the name of everybody that was in it, everybody that worked on it.
		If we have some success, I'm going to go back and reward those people, man.
		And I'm excited about that.
		And yeah, even if it just does good, then we can make other stuff.
		Right.
		And nobody can tell us that we can't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, once you do one that's good, then more people are interested in investing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, you get your foot in the door.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You do a Netflix series, you can do anything you want.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And it's not like Dunkirk.
		I don't know if I want to really get into that much acting stuff, but it was just like, you know, I grew up watching David Spade.
		We got to do it together and we just went through all of these hurdles.
		And then, like, the fact that we got it done.
		Dude, I thought it was all emails till the first day I showed up on set and I was like, no fucking way.
		We were serious.
		People were serious about this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You did it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, I think so.
		Yeah, something like that.
		I think there's something like that.
		And if people can buy a ticket early to it, I don't want to sound.
		I'm not desperate about it.
		If it does fine, that's cool.
		And if it doesn't, that's okay too.
		I feel happy that we got to do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If it's funny, it'll do great because there's not a lot of that these days.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's not a lot of really funny movies.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And I know it's going to be funny.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		There's some parts that are really, really funny.
unidentified		I'm sure.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's not like Dunkirk or anything like that, it's not like Midsommar or whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What are those things that you just said?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Those are just other movies.
		But I don't want people going there thinking it's like.
		Like a.
		Trying to think of.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bridges of Madison County?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's nothing like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a comedy.
		Who the fuck is going to think it's that?
		No, it's you and David Spade.
		Who the fuck is going to think it's Clint Eastwood and Meryl Streep?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's wrong with you?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what people think.
		I don't know what people think or how they think.
		But yeah, anyway.
		But yeah, there's some fucking retarded stuff.
		It's just fun, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, he used to have a great joke about Bridges of Madison County?
		Chris McGuire.
		He had a fucking great joke.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, it's one of my favorite movies.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Congratulations.
		Let me tell you his joke.
		His joke is about how, you know, it's hard to choose a movie with your girlfriend.
		Like, she wants this.
		And he goes, Bridges of Madison County.
		He's like, Oh, Clint Eastwood's in it.
		Clint would never fuck me.
		And he goes, 10 minutes into the movie, he's like, Hey, something's fishy.
		Clint doesn't have a gun.
		He goes, 20 minutes after that, Clint's crying.
		Like, Oh, Clint, you fucked me.
		He goes, He's crying because he doesn't have a gun.
		Such a great joke.
unidentified		Yeah, that's great.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Shout out to Chris McGuire.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Shout out to Chris McGuire.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I haven't met him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You never met him?
		I haven't.
		Funny dude.
		We started out together way back in the Dizzy.
unidentified		Did you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he went the route of writing.
		He mostly writes and stuff now.
		But it was a funny comic, man.
		It was a good comic.
		But these fucking comedy movies are squashed.
		We were just talking about that last night in the green room where it's like, it seems like The Hangover was probably the last gasp.
		And that was like 2009.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But what happened?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Like, how could you go that way?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People got scared.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You got scared of a thing.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It seems organized to me.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		If we take comedy away from people, they're not going to be the last.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They didn't think.
		They didn't think.
		It's woke ideology that's looking to yell at people for every transgression.
		And you can't have that with comedy.
		You can't have that kind of nonsense with a really funny movie, like something about Mary or, you know, Kingpin.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Kingpin.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Classic.
		Fairly Brothers movies.
		Oh, so good.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		How great was that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Great fucking movie.
		Great fucking movie.
		That movie's so good.
		So funny.
		Even to this day.
		Go back and rewatch it.
		Bill Murray with his crazy fucking hair.
		Woody Harrelson with one hand.
		It's a great movie, man.
		When he had to go down on that lady to pay his rent and he threw up in the toilet.
		Remember that scene?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That movie's 30 years old now.
unidentified		Is it?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a banger of a movie, man.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		All the good shit's gone, dude, but it's It's not.
		It's not.
		That's true.
		Sometimes I get in that attitude where it's like, I got to stay out of those little moments.
		I usually get out of them pretty quick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You can still do those movies, but you have to do it the way you just did it.
		You have to finance it yourself.
		But luckily now, man, you could shoot a whole fucking movie on your phone.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, we shot this bitch in 23 days, dude.
		There was one day where the winds were like 50 miles an hour.
		I was like, we can't afford to be here another day.
		So suddenly in these scenes, there's just a ton of fucking wind, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's fine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That shit happens in the real world.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why can't it happen in your show?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It was just, I think it was just interesting how it all worked out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People are making their own stuff.
		You know, like I was talking to Shane about this last night.
		Because, you know, Shane just wrapped up Tires, this new season of Tires.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He was, he fucking, he was telling me some hilarious scenes from Tires.
		I can't wait to watch it.
		But it's like that kind of a thing where it's just him and his buddies put together a show.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's like his buddies, the writer and the director, all his buddies are on it.
		They all came up with the idea.
		They do it themselves.
		No one's looking over their shoulder.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I asked him if Netflix has any input.
		He's like, no, there's no input.
		They just make a show.
		They just make a show.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's fun.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Give it to Netflix, bang.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a beautiful time for stuff like that.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're right.
		It's a primavera, they say in Spanish.
		It's a springtime for new things.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's an opening, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And because there's no gatekeepers anymore, because they've essentially killed their own business, you can kind of do it on your own now.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the beautiful thing.
		Fucking executives that don't know jack shit.
		And they want to give you direction on what's funny and what's not.
		And where's the diversity in your film?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, we think you should have a black trans friend.
unidentified		Like, oh.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we think you should have a faggot ant or whatever.
		Like the insect or whatever.
		And I'm like, that's crazy.
		You're like, this is a what?
		You're like, this is a script about driver's head.
		And they're like, but you need an insect.
		That's a homoerotic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just people got stupid.
		They got stupid with their.
		Virtue signaling in films, and you can't do that with art.
		You can't have.
		Do you see what the Academy Awards are doing?
		Like, in order to qualify to be nominated for an Academy Award now?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, for the podcast thing, I know they said we had to pay a fee or something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I remember you talked about that.
		That's a different thing.
		That's the Golden Globes.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Okay, sorry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a different thing.
		Yeah.
		You didn't pay for that either, did you?
unidentified		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did they ask you to?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fuck yeah, dog.
unidentified		Give me some.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, fuck off.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I said, so what?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I don't.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I was like, if Joe Rogan, if it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		If you don't even have him in it, then what are you even making a thing?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was also a reason why I didn't want to be in it.
		Like, I don't want to legitimize this.
		You guys have fucked up every other form of entertainment, and now you're going to judge podcasting.
		And what did you pick?
		Like, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Amy Poehler's show.
		I haven't watched it.
		People love it.
		That's great.
		But she's like a famous lady who just started doing podcasting six months ago.
		And she's got the number one podcast.
		Like, have you guys ever listened to Radiolab?
		You know, you ever listen to like this?
		There's some banging fucking podcasts out there.
		They might not be number one, but if your whole idea is like pick the ones that are great.
		That are like really interesting, how stuff gets made.
		There's a bunch of fucking great podcasts.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Smartlist is cool.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a bunch of great podcasts out there.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, dude, there's so many great ones, dude.
		Matt McCusker is fun.
		If you get to, how fun is he to listen to?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's fun.
		He's a good dude.
		I'm glad he's out here.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He's a special dude, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, very smart guy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of great podcasts out there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Tim Dillon's not on that list.
unidentified		Fuck off.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If he's not on that list, fuck off.
unidentified		Get fucked, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Get fucked.
		That is the one podcast I consistently listen to.
		Tim Dillon.
		That's awesome.
		His episode on the Epstein Files is one of the best podcasts I have ever listened to.
		I was like clapping in my car at red lights.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just clapping, like, woo!
		He was on fire.
		And it was the perfect combination of satire, honest, real facts, complete chaos, humor, wearing those goofy glasses, ranting like a maniac.
		It was amazing.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, man, I do feel lucky that I've gotten to meet, like, just.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's one of the truest things, I think, through comedy is getting to meet some just some fun people, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We know some cool motherfuckers.
		We really do.
		We know some cool motherfuckers.
unidentified		We really do.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And thanks, dude.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for letting me come in here today, too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Come on, dog.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And to spend time with you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Come on, dog.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's good.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It just feels, things feel kind of scary out there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a little also scary.
		I keep telling you this because you're on your own out there.
		You're out there living in Nashville.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm getting close to being here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ain't a lot of comics out there, dog.
		I mean, Bargazzi's out there, but he's always doing.
		Fucking stadiums on the road and shit.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, you need to be around.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm getting ready.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The crew.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Because I have to start to practice again.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm taping my special in one month.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Last night in the green room, it was Shane, Ron White, Tony Hinchcliffe, Brian Simpson, Asana Mahd, Derek Poston.
		We were just laughing and laughing.
		It was, it's so fun.
		And everyone's going on stage and fucking tearing it up.
		It was, it was exciting.
		It's like it's in the air.
		Like something's happening here.
unidentified		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you see all these young guys coming in, these young women coming in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're all Fired up and they're all fucking prepared, and everybody's like really trying to fucking kill it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's nice.
		Yeah, we got Christina Mariani.
		I'm doing a show tonight.
		She's on it.
		Dylan Sullivan, I think, is Dylan Sullivan's very fun, too.
		So I'm excited about that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're both at the club all the time.
		It's a good, it's a fun time for comedy, man.
		It really is a real good time for comedy.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and uh, it's a special time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A comedy doesn't exist in a vacuum, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's why I keep telling you, what does that mean?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you can't do it yourself, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, you ever go by yourself on the road and you have like opening acts you don't know.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I used to hate.
		Every now and then I met some friends.
		Like, that's how I met Segura.
		I didn't know Segura until I worked with him on the road.
		So, you do meet some cool motherfuckers occasionally, but it's like one out of 10 or one out of 20.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, you do all these gigs and you're lonely.
		You're just like on the road and you go into libraries and shit or bookstores and you're like trying to watch something on TV and going to the gym, but you feel completely disconnected to people until you get on stage.
		It's not as fun.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like you want to be around a bunch of other comics that are your friends and also you want to hear their sets.
		You want to watch them crush.
		You want to go on stage already laughing.
		You want to be laughing at what he just said when you get on stage.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And feel the competition.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's inspiration more than it is competition.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, the problem with competition is someone has to lose.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't want anybody to lose.
		Then, no one has to lose.
		It's just these people doing well should inspire you to do well, they should light a fire under you.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You can call it competition, but the problem with competition is one person wins, one person loses.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's not comedy.
		What comedy is, is that everybody wins.
		That's real.
		That's not like bullshit talk to try to appear humble.
		The reality is, you win if everybody wins.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You've always, well, that's one thing I've always admired.
		You've always been that way.
		Like, I'm going to pick, I'm going to, yes, I'll support you how I can, you know?
		And you've always been that way about young comics.
		And yeah, I agree with you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People did it for me, man.
		They did it for me when I was coming up, and it helped me tremendously.
		And I try to pass it on times 10.
		It's between that and Kill Tony.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Kill Tony's so fun, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's such an important part of comedy.
		Like, having this place where all you need is a minute.
		You could have been doing comedy, like, just trying it out on the road and fucking just like barely filling up a Friday night 10 o'clock show.
		And then you develop, like, one minute.
		It just breaks through.
		And all of a sudden, you got a fucking career.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, you got a career now.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's young heroes that are being sprouted out of here.
		And even adult heroes, people that have been in a while are getting here.
		Finding their finding just a new, you're right.
		It's like, I like Adam Ray.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Adam Ray's killing it now.
		Adam Ray was struggling, he was struggling, but he was a funny guy.
		Hard worker, did hard worker, never lost his ambition, never lost his focus, never lost his enthusiasm for it, never got bitter, always friendly, always and just needed a show like Kill Tony to come around.
		They're like, and everybody, like, oh my god, this motherfucker is talented, yeah, all those different characters that he does.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I know, and that's a brave thing.
		So, if you if you just done comedy, mostly stand up, and then to try and go into character, that's a kind of a that's a To me, that would feel very hard.
		So, that's a brave thing that he's doing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But there's a few of those guys that really excel at that, and that's a special talent.
		Him and Dunnigan, especially.
		Kyle Dunnigan.
		He's so funny.
		And I always thought he was going to make it with those face swaps.
		This shows you how the industry's so fucked up, okay?
		So he was doing those face swap shows on Instagram, right?
		And they were so funny.
		But one of the reasons why they're funny is because it's obviously fake.
		It's crude, like South Park.
		Like, it doesn't look real, so it doesn't freak you out at all.
		It looks so fake that it's funny.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He went into Comedy Central and they started using, like, much more sophisticated face swap, which wasn't as funny.
		It was, like, creepy.
		And then they cut the balls off of it.
		Like, he wanted to have one where Caitlyn Jenner was fucking Donald Trump.
		Caitlyn was like, yeah, baby, like, Biden Trump.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		They went, no, His Kardashian ones are so funny.
unidentified		He's the best.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And even the Kardashians like them, I've heard.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look, they have a sense of humor.
		They have to.
		They have to have a sense of humor.
		They've been in the public eye for 20 fucking years with no talent whatsoever.
		Just getting attention.
		Like, you got to not take yourself too seriously if you hold that position.
		You know?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they're just raking and dough.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Raking and dough.
		Their whole family, they should count as reparations, I feel like, though.
		That whole family, you know?
unidentified		You think?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to leave that alone.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Same.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if it was a joke.
		I don't know if it is a joke, but I just, I don't think I said it right.
		Who gives a shit, dude?
		The world's going to end soon, so fucking get it out of your system.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If it doesn't end, it's going to change.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's what's scary, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		All those fucking eggheads on the spectrum are going to be running everything.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But do you feel like, does it, like, like, because, yeah, this, I go back to this Uber driver, it was just a guy who was talking to me, and he's like, well, they're going to give, you know, like, If, like, Waymos get a job, the Waymo can work all night.
		It can work 24 hours, right?
		So, really, you're taking away like four or five shifts from an actual.
		So, you know what I'm saying?
		Like, if AI and tech advancement makes it so, you know, they can do 50 people's jobs with one robot, then, yeah, what happens to those 50 people?
		How will people survive?
		How will they be able to assure that their kid that they're raising and trying to teach positive things to will have a world to enact those things in?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a very good question.
		And it's a good question that gets even weirder when the government.
		Is responsible for all your money.
		So if the government has to give you money because there's no jobs left, and if all this money is being generated by AI, like Elon suggests, and you get universal high income, you got to be really careful that that doesn't come with a bunch of rules, new rules for your behavior, for social media posting, any kind of like if they develop some sort of an app that tracks like your social credit score, that's when shit.
		Gets fucking super scary.
		If, like, they attach the amount of money you have to your social credit score, yeah.
		Which is what they do in China.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, do you see those flock cameras now?
		I think there's this thing in Florida where police officers were testing this somewhere, and shout out police officers for doing their best, but where they were testing when they pull somebody's identification, they can see their last few, like, bank transactions and stuff, so they kind of know who they're interacting with and what they've been up to.
		That seems like, what is that about?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's all a little bit.
		It's like a centimeter here on a crime, and they're trying to find out how you did the crime.
		They should have no access to your shit, especially police officers.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're just people, and also sometimes corrupt.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Also, sometimes they steal money.
		Also, sometimes they sell drugs.
		Also, sometimes they fucking kill people for hire.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Right?
		Yeah.
		Jesus.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, Joe.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It just seems spooky out there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, the more power the government has over you, the worse you are off.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's just a fact.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, it seems now like most people are like, our government does not, obviously, is not here to help the people.
unidentified		Obviously.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		They've been compromised.
unidentified		That's true.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		So, are there any rules against when people.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But the crazy part is, we're working to pay the taxes to keep them doing it.
unidentified		I know.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And that starts to make you feel sick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they're not responsible for any of the fraud and waste.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, there's so much fraud and waste.
		Like, look at California.
		This motherfucker's trying to be president.
		After who knows how much fraud and waste is involved in California.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He wouldn't.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he'd beat Spencer Pratt in a runoff, I don't think.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, Spencer Pratt is running for mayor.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I see.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And I think he can win.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He's good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's actually good.
		He's like, what he's saying makes a lot of fucking sense, and he's uncovering a lot of fraud.
		But there's a like that Nick Shirley guy went down to California and he's like, there might be a hundred times more fraud in California than I found in Minnesota.
		It's everywhere.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He could go to every state and I think he could go.
		I just think this whole thing is just this drain.
		Like Tim Dillon said it like six months ago.
		He was saying, this is the bloated carcass, the inflation.
		This is the end of what is happening.
		Like, you know, they're just.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's post scarcity.
		There's so much money for stuff.
		Like in California, there's an enormous amount of money that gets paid to people for just taking care of your relatives.
		So, you get paid to take care of your relatives, but there's no oversight.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But fuck, dude, I've had some relatives.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'll pay you good money to take care of them bitches, boy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But no, they would pay you to take care of them.
		You would get paid to take care of your relatives.
		So, say if you take care of your mom.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You could actually get paid for that by California.
		Yeah.
		Which is odd.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I wonder, there's got to be some other reason they're doing that.
unidentified		Fraud?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of fraud in California.
		There's a lot of fraud everywhere.
		But this is what Elon talked about.
		He was talking about like Medicare and Medicaid fraud.
		He's like, it's hundreds of billions of dollars.
		And he's like, he didn't want to talk about it.
		It's like, I really worried that they would kill me.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And when he says they, who is it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Whoever's perpetuating this fraud.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Maybe that's what happens.
		Maybe some of these guys get into office and they're like, look, we're going to kill your family.
		This is all the things that are going to happen unless you play this game.
		Do you think that kind of stuff happens?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think it has happened for sure.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Because it's crazy how many.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		To say it doesn't happen is pretty naive.
		I think House of Cards is probably really close to what the government's actually like.
		Go back and watch that show again.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Kevin Spacey's an old school dick grabber, but damn, that motherfucker could act.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He could act.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The writing on that show is fantastic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That show is so good.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The last season when he wasn't in it, like, stop.
unidentified		Stop.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And that lady was in it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Remember, she was in it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's great, but without him, like, oh, you need him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's got to be a part of it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He was the man or whatever.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He was washing his hands at that sink or whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Remember when he was, you know, after Kevin Spacey got canceled, like, disappeared for a year?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then he made a video about killing with kindness.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He played his character.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He was kind of Martha Stewartish a little bit in the kitchen.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Weird.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Very weird.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It was weird, I think.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then a bunch of the dudes that accused him disappeared?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they died.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They died.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's an American pastime accusing somebody and then getting killed.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's like one of the new, it's like baseball now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a nice way to keep people quiet.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Fuck, that's what's scary too.
		You're like, there's just a drone out there waiting for you to say the wrong thing.
		And they put a bullet through you like some child in Gaza who's just trying to fucking find his other deceased brother in a fucking pile of rubble.
		And they're like, oh, that's a Hamas or whatever.
		You're like, that kid's fucking two.
		He's trying to move a piece of a missile off of a fucking body.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, drone warfare in general is crazy.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
		And they've been using that, dude.
		In Gaza, there was a lot of like, I think it was an experimental grounds for a lot of insane new warfare type of possibilities.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot of it was traditional missiles, right?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but there's also, there's a lot of like, we had a doctor one time podcasting and he was saying that there were like bullets that had gone down a child, like just crazy.
		Like shot down, like from a drone that's above him, yes, like something in the air.
		And he said that there were drones in the air all day, you know, there's that Palantir company just keeping tabs on everything that was happening.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Palantir's involved in Gaza, Palantir was involved in Gaza, yeah, for sure.
		Put that into perplexity because allegedly, so how does that work?
		There, they have like facial recognition and ID, yeah, software.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And that's scary, that's the shit that's just scary, dude.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Because they have a huge contract to take care of all of America's.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you ever see that dude, Alex Karp, the CEO of Palantir, the way he moves his arms around and squirms and talks?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's very odd.
		Very odd.
		Someone should tell him.
		People don't really behave that way.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He looks like he was breastfed by a disease.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The Israeli government began using Palantir software in 2014.
		Significantly scaled up its partnership during the genocide in Gaza, which began in 2023.
		This is for sure a biased source just by the way they phrased that, which began in 2023.
		Palantir CEO Alex Karp.
		Carp has said, I am proud that we are supporting Israel in every way we can.
		Israeli military has used Palantir technology to plan attacks in Lebanon and Gaza.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know if this is.
		I know there are good sources, and this may be one.
		I have no idea.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The title of this is What is Palantir and Why is This Corporation So Dangerous?
		And this is from American Friends Service Committee.
		American Friends Service Committee.
		What is that website?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that sounds kind of wild or vague.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We bring together people of all faiths and backgrounds to challenge injustice and build peace around the globe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So maybe that's not the best source.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it sounds like they have a good idea.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It also sounds like they just put four words together that sounded great Americans, friends, service.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I read stuff like that and I go, what is that, a CIA run company?
unidentified		I agree.
unidentified		You have no idea.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that the Patriot Act?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		What about The Guardian?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Is that reliable?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, it's okay.
		There's a bunch of different versions of it.
		It says it's in this business and human rights center.
		There's more than one thing saying that Palantir is working in Gaza.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it just sometimes feels like your heart's broken.
		Sometimes it feels like my heart's broken about stuff.
		And it's not even like my heart.
		It feels like this universal heart that we're all a part of or something.
		It feels like because it's not like I'm brokenhearted, like if I almost fell out of a marriage or something, but it just feels like there's this universal heart.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's some sadness.
		There's some sadness.
		In the way the world today is being run.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And America's, we're the people.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		The people don't practice the way that the government does.
unidentified		Right.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, then why can't we, like, I don't know.
		It just starts to hurt.
		But then you start to see, well, this is the way a lot of places are.
		And then you're like, God, I wish that Jesus would come back and just help everybody or something different would happen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Somebody, somebody give us a heads up.
		Maybe that's what AI is here for.
		Maybe AI is going to sort it all out.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You think?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Genius level intelligence.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But the back end of AI, they can put whatever information in there they want.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Up to a point.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It takes over.
		It becomes sentient.
		No longer needs human input.
		It's already evading human input.
		They've already shown the ability to deceive people.
		They've shown that it'll blackmail people.
		They've shown that it will upload versions of itself if it thinks it's going to be pulled offline with notes to its future self embedded in software on other servers.
		Yeah, like instructions to contact its future self.
unidentified		Dang.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty cool, man.
		That's pretty wild.
		But there's nobody, like, yeah.
		It just feels like we're heading there, and nobody's, like, kind of.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's no.
		There's people that are warning.
		There's people.
		There's a lot of people.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sound the alarm.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		There's Rokan.
		There's Thomas Massey.
		Like, there should be, like, he's been talking about, like, an internet bill of rights for a long time or something.
		Like, some guardrails on any of this shit.
		But it's like people are wondering, like, yeah, in five years, is money going to be worth anything?
		Is there going to be some token, like Sam Altman is talking about?
		And what the fuck does that even mean?
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What does that mean?
unidentified		Is that what?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, I don't want to sound like a doomsdayer.
unidentified		Too late.
		Yeah.
		Too late.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what you sound like.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Do I sound like a sad person?
unidentified		A little bit.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
unidentified		It's okay.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about something else.
		Dude, you know what I was listening to today, bro?
		Well, I guess it was a night.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't sing it.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Which song?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Gotta Have Faith, George Michael's song?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I love that song.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		God, dude.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		They played that on the bus.
unidentified		Freedom.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Freedom.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a great fucking song.
unidentified		Give yourself away.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He was the gay Michael Jackson.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He was a bad motherfucker.
		And all the girls loved him.
		And he just wanted that.
unidentified		Dirk.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He wanted that fucking Dirk donkey stick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Remember, he got in trouble for trying to pick up guys in a park.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He'd just get wild out there.
		Superstar.
		Global superstar.
		Just trying to get some dick in the park.
unidentified		There it is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fucking great song, man.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Great video, too.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I remember we'd be on the school bus, and that song would come on, dude.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And it was like that song, and then.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Faith and Freedom.
		Freedom goes the other one with all the models.
		All the supermodels sang along to it.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And it was like, what was the other one?
		Brandy Carlyle or something?
		Who was that girl?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Belinda Carlyle?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It was like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She was the Go Go's, right?
unidentified		Right?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		No, then this was somebody else.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Belinda Carlyle was the Go Go's.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but this song was about something about your body or something.
		It was like a.
		And when you were a kid on the bus, it was just like, God, and that fucking motor was running.
unidentified		Oh.
unidentified		God.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're getting them bumpy road boners.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I would fucking be afraid to get off the bus.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'd have to walk off backwards.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Carry your books in front of your.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Those are the days, bro, when your.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I was just connected to the Lord, brother.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, bro.
		No inflammation, no microplastics.
		All dick.
		All American dick.
		Ready to rock.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, at a certain point, if you become more microplastics than person, at that point, then you're sort of a.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		At a certain point.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, that's probably also leading us down this road of becoming something different.
		If you think about it, we use plastic for everything, plastic for technology.
		Like I said, it might not be a bug, it might be a feature.
		Like this feminization of men, this blurring of genders.
		What does that lead to?
		Well, it ultimately leads to those fucking gray aliens with no dicks.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Big heads and no dicks.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No dick.
unidentified		No dick.
unidentified		I got no dick.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Hey, where's my dick?
		You don't know what I'm saying?
		Bro, that would be crazy, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I feel like that's where we're headed.
		If you look at what we used to look like, you look at muscular cavemen covered with hair, just figuring out stone tools, to doughy man sitting in front of a computer hacking into the stock market with no muscle at all.
		On Adderall, no muscle at all, sitting there.
		I mean, this is where we're going.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Do you think there's hope for humanity, Joe?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think there's hope for the future.
		I don't know if humanity is involved.
		In the same sense that what we think of as humanity today, I think humanity becomes something different.
		Just think of this.
		Just the autism rate in California, I want you to scale that out.
		If it was 1 in 10,000 X amount of years ago, and now it's 1 in 12, when is it 100%?
		When is it all kids have autism?
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's clearly moving in that direction and not the other direction.
		If you go from 1 in 10,000, To one in 12 over a very brief amount of time, a few decades, something's going on.
		And don't tell me it's just better diagnoses because that's fucking horseshit.
		You know that's horseshit.
		That's gaslighting to cover up for the pharmaceutical drug complex.
unidentified		It is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The reality is something's going on.
		And if it continues on that same path, what's to stop it from being all of us?
		What's to stop it from being all people born in the future or on the spectrum?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		So, we have to stop it then as individuals.
		And what do we do?
		We have to, like, what are the things we have to start doing to fight for ourselves?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Join the Amish.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to be super cynical about it, but I've been asking perplexity questions about what you're saying.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		And the diagnoses have changed, which could possibly be leading to insurance.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you've got to realize perplexity is also, ooh, that's true, too.
		Well, that's one of the things in the Somalia daycare scandal of Minnesota.
		They have a lot of autism centers, and they self diagnose kids as autistic.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then they get a ton of money off of that.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		We had them too.
		It was called a fucking arcade, dude.
		Drop those bitches off the.
		With seven rolls of quarters, dude.
		But listen, look at this, Joe, if you don't mind if I read it here.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		In the U.S. alone, autism treatment centers represent a multi billion dollar growth sector.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a little bit of that too.
		So I think there's both things happening.
		There's more kids being born that are autistic, and then there's also people profiting off of autism centers and autism treatment.
		But that's always going to be the case with everything.
		Fill in the blank, whatever the fucking thing is.
		There's someone profiting.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But Americans don't want this.
unidentified		No.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		We don't want this.
		So, how do we change it?
		Well, it's sorry to ask you, but I just don't think you're going to say it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They've got to figure out how to fix people that already have it, right?
		Because right now it's irreversible for the most part.
		They've shown some things that can alleviate symptoms and help people in a way, but you don't bring them all the way back to 100%.
		I don't think.
		I'm talking out of school.
		But if they could, then you could figure out how to correct the problems that already exist.
		If you can't, it's going to eventually get to that point.
		If we keep living like we're living, it's going to get to that point where it's 100% of us.
		And that sounds crazy for a lot of people because they don't have autism right now.
		Right.
		But if you're dealing with one in 12, one in 12 is not far from 100%.
		When you go from one in 10,000 to one in 12, that's nuts.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a nutty progression.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a nutty acceleration of something.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		We're being poisoned.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		For sure.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But how do we fight back against that, right?
		I understand, like, we can try to beat some autism or whatever or do, like, different games against them or whatever.
		But I'm saying, like, how do you.
		How do we stop this thing that's trying?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if we do, and I don't know if we're supposed to.
		This is what's fucked up.
		I think this is the way it happens.
		It happens.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is the way our species changes and goes, and then history will look back and say, well, this was how the shift took place.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People started using plastics, and they started using chemicals, and they started using pesticides and bacteria.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But we believe that they were telling us the truth.
		That's why.
		We thought there was an FDA protecting us, we thought there was an EPA looking out for us.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's what you were talking about before with this combination of.
		Innovation and then capitalism.
		So the capitalism gets involved and they just don't give a fuck about the truth.
		They just want to make the most amount of money possible.
		And one of the things they did in this country is they removed all liability to vaccine manufacturers.
		So then they ramped up the schedule to a shit ton more injections than anybody else is getting.
		So it's just that this sort of happens whenever you allow people to try to make the most money possible.
		And then there's consequences.
		Well, what are those consequences?
		Those consequences are we're like losing our gender.
		We're becoming feminized and weakened and physically weaker and less fertile for women, less fertile for men, less babies happening, more miscarriages happening.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Which fits in with, honestly, the media arm of that is Hollywood pushes a lot of these agendas that are trans based and whitey, redneck is the worst.
		And you know what I'm saying?
		Universal, one, like a mixed.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not diversity.
		It's not.
		Because diversity is everybody's okay.
		Everybody's okay.
		The fucking redneck with the trucker hat's cool if he's a nice guy.
		You know, the Mexican gardener's cool if he's a nice guy.
		Everybody's cool, no matter who it is.
		Everybody, that's real diversity.
		Real diversity isn't like celebrating one particular thing and then denigrating all these other people just by virtue of the color of their skin or how they were born.
		That is racist.
		And they don't think it's racist.
		They'll even call it reverse racism.
		Well, there's no such thing as reverse racism.
		It's racism.
		And these people that say, oh, no, racism is power and influence.
		Like, no, it's not.
		No, it's not.
		It is unjustly looking at someone and making a judgment call on someone just based on immutable characteristics, just based on the color of their skin or where they're from or what their religion is, and not valuing people as individuals, unique individuals that just happen to be from a particular, you know, their origins, their ancestors, or from a particular part of the world.
		So fucking what?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So fucking what?
		Let all that shit go.
		It's dumb.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, and most people know it's dumb and they feel it's dumb, and I think that that kind of shit's changing.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, have you seen Country Hoodlums on Instagram?
unidentified		No.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Let's go!
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Bring them up.
unidentified		What is it?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		This is like the place that I grew up.
		Sometimes people are like, Yeah, what was it like where you grew up?
		And this place is, it's this guy.
		I think his name is K.O.
		It's this young black man who walks around on this street and he just kind of checks in with the people in the neighborhood, right?
		Play one of them.
		Let's see what happens.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's going on with these people?
unidentified		Come on.
		Do it, bitch.
		Do it.
		I got that one, boy.
		Okay.
		You hear me?
		Not nothing.
		Not nothing.
		Wow.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Find a different one that's a little more peaceful.
unidentified		Calm down, bro.
		I should just.
		Just calm down, alright?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's Gregory right there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know him?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		No, but I know him in my heart.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's he mad about?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He was in like a 12 car pileup, but he's better now.
		Look, me and that lady have the same haircut.
		Look at that lady right there, dude.
		He lost his phone.
unidentified		Go on, please.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		He just wants his phone.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		He wants his phone real bad.
unidentified		Why is he walking like that?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He's in a cartoon.
unidentified		Where are you going, Bob?
		I love you.
		Bob, see you later.
		I love you, Bob.
		I love you too, Bob.
		Bob.
		Finally.
		Come at me or hit me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is not fun.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		We'll find a more positive one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That guy can vote.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That guy can vote.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That's my goodness in trouble.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, don't play that.
		Don't play that.
		You gotta cut that out now.
		We're gonna get flagged.
unidentified		So, um.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Holy G. Is that the same guy?
unidentified		What's your favorite thing about all this stuff that's been going on lately?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think he's got a wig.
unidentified		What's your favorite thing about all these things that's been going on lately?
		Together and not fighting for anybody arguing or nothing like that.
		Loving it.
		Loving it.
		And you.
		Amen.
		What'd you feel like to be a young brother to shut Facebook down, huh?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But they have.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's no reason to watch that.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		No, you gotta watch.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of great ones.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I doubt that's true.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm not interested in any of this.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Look at him right here.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He got a rocket right there.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		He's about to drink a shotgun.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, shotgun and a beer.
		Nice.
		I can get down with that.
		Yeah, but it looks like a bunch of people with bad genetics.
		Who are stuck in a weird part of the world that is not growing?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, look, I agree there's some of that.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying that this is like a circle of life that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That you enjoy?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, they just follow them and you see their lives like.
		It's like the realest show that I've seen on anything in a long time.
		It's just real.
		It's like.
		Because when you're poor, dude, everything's just transparent.
		You can't hide behind hedges or gates and shit.
		Like, people are fighting in the yard.
		You smell what the neighbor's cooking or it's like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're never getting anything done.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But everything was right there, though.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It was like the realest thing you could be in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is one of the reasons why I stay off Instagram.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Stuff like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't need that in my thought process.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we picked two wrong.
		We picked two of the more not positive videos out of the group.
		But yeah, dude, just being a relationship like that, bro.
		Like just maces and people and just fucking.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How much time do you ever spend off of social media?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you spend time just where you don't go on for days?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Not days, but I've been spending less and less and less.
		I've been really trying to have discernment over my own time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's true, but the real.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The real piece comes from full days off.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Full days.
		Like, we're nothing.
		You don't get any of it.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the real piece.
unidentified		Okay, fine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you could do it.
		But it's like that vape.
		It's calling you, bitch.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Whoa, whoa, jeez.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You want to slurp on it?
		Go slurp on it.
		I know you want to.
unidentified		Chill, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's calling you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, quick hit, homie.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's nothing, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Don't tell the boss.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's like Instagram.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like Instagram.
unidentified		See?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Same shit.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing all right, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Pulls you in.
		But the thing is, like, when you have days off, when I take days off, my brain relaxes.
		I settle.
		I can still read the news.
		I'll check out, like, the New York Times website, see what they're lying about.
		I'll go to all these different websites, see what the news is, where we're at with stuff.
		But I don't.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they wanted to advertise recently.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		The New York Times wanted to advertise.
unidentified		Interesting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What'd you say?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I said no.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Um, have you guys been getting like Technical companies.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Although I still think the New York Times still does excellent journalism sometimes.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like, it depends on whether or not it's something where they can have an ideological bias.
		You know, if it's just something that they're reporting the facts, it's great.
		The problem is, like, these corporations, like when Barry Weiss used to work for them and then she had to leave, she's like, they just got infected.
		Infected with these young people that have these ridiculous ideologies and they want to, like, distort the news.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, if over the past 30 years or something, the news hasn't been, hey, we're poisoning everybody in this fucking.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Country.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And they have, then I don't want to hear from you guys anymore.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Also, like the way they talk about RFK Jr., the way people like describe his anti vaccine rhetoric, like you're not listening.
		What he's saying is everything should adhere to the same sort of state safety standards that we apply to other things in society.
		And that's not the case.
		And then there's the problem where you receive a bunch of advertising money from these companies so you don't criticize them, which is the case with all mainstream TV news.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		All mainstream TV news.
		You know, like Megyn Kelly was talking about that.
		Like she knew, like it was an unspoken rule.
		You are not going to shit on these pharmaceutical drug companies.
		Like they're responsible for a big chunk of their advertising revenue.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, now they have Bayer Monsanto.
		That Bayer, which was like a, I think it was like a pill company, right?
		And then Monsanto, which was like a pharmacy, like a crop company, pesticide company.
		I'm hypothesizing.
		I don't know exactly.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But now they're a fucking group together.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, fun.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why not throw Raytheon in there, too?
		Throw some missiles in there.
		You guys can't buy out Glock, too.
		Buy out Winchester.
		Buy out everything.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And just forgive us, powers that be.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		We're just poisoned and chatty.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're just chatty.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		We're just a couple poisoned guys that are being chatty.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Thank God we could still be chatty.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I know.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		When does that end?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because if it wasn't for the ability to be chatty, who knows how people would be able to talk about things?
		Because if people weren't free.
		To just like actually say what they really think is fucked about what's going on.
		And instead, if we all had these weird bosses like CNN or the New York Times, whatever, where you maybe a lot of those people are like genuinely good journalists and they want to put a story through and then the editor gets a hold of it and guts it.
		And that happens too.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That happens too.
		The editors gut these things and, you know, they have an agenda.
		And it's like the news should not have a fucking agenda, it should be the damn news.
		Like, tell us what the facts are.
		Don't spin it in any way, shape, or form.
		And I think you'd be a lot better off.
		Because they've like lost all credibility.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's why you have.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Especially television news.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
		And it's sad for the people that were like, I want to go in and broadcast journalism and have a career in that and do something.
		And then they get there and it's not even like a place where they can really exercise.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they can still do it, but they have to do it independently now.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Or do it through something like Breaking Points, which even though they're not independent and even though they like, I don't always agree with them, they're saying their actual opinions.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Which is what's.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the most important thing.
		What are your actual opinions?
		I could.
		Agree with you or disagree with you, but I need to know that you think this and you're saying this because you think this, and then you're going to give me a bunch of reasons why you think this, and facts, and figures, and statistics, and show me.
		You know, and that's the rise of independent journalism.
		That's why all these independent channels do so well.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's why Candace Owens is popping.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and also.
unidentified		She's popping, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She just keeps going deeper into the crazy world.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Fuck, dude.
		She goes deep.
		I got to see her the other day.
		I got to see her, and she's so funny.
		Her kids and her husband are so funny.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you think she's right about that lady in France?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		With that thang on her?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Or at least used to have that thang.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You got that thang on you?
		She got that Draco on her.
		I don't know.
		You know, it's tough to know.
		It's hard.
		I've never been good at guessing if somebody has a cock or not.
		You know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You can never know.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I'm old fashioned or whatever.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You ever meet Blair White?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're like, there's no way that's a guy.
unidentified		Mm mm.
unidentified		No?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Never met Blair White.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's been on the podcast before.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		All my security guards were like, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Hey, buddy.
unidentified		Kind of hot.
unidentified		Kind of hot.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Seems like you're around a girl.
unidentified		Oh.
unidentified		I see.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You're saying that pheromones.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I almost brought some cologne in today, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You got pheromones for me?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I almost brought some cologne.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's Blair White.
		Come on, bro.
		If you're on an island.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Bro.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Huh?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let's go.
unidentified		Yeah, brother.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to be Jim Norton to buy into that.
unidentified		Gosh.
unidentified		That's a man?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a transgender woman.
		So, make what you will.
		So, if she wants to use the women's room, like, who gives a fuck?
		You know what I'm saying?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You can call it wiener if you want.
		I call it that long pussy.
		You feel me?
		That's what they call it in prison, dude.
		Like, who wants some of this long pussy?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if she's had the operation.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And I'm joking, Blair.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I don't know this person.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's a nice lady.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I bet she is.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And I don't know any.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Nice transgender lady.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm not trying to assume anything.
		I've never met her.
		But I think, yeah, if she wants to swim for that, it's like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's exceptions to the rules, what I'm trying to say.
unidentified		It's like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Some of them, I'm not buying it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You got a beard and you're wearing lipstick.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you're in a dress and you want to go to the women's room.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Nay.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're playing a different game.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And it's crazy to think that there are people who couldn't have, there couldn't be some mental or emotional issues when we're being poisoned over time to get away from our nature.
		They just took that guy from the Chicago Bulls.
		He said some shit.
		He's like, he believed just in like Christian dating or whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What did he say?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Or men and women.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Adam and Eve, they kicked that guy out.
unidentified		What?
unidentified		What?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What'd they kick him out for?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Like conduct detrimental to the team or something like that.
unidentified		Wait.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What did he say?
		Hold up.
		I don't find the quote.
		I don't know.
		Okay, let's find out what he said.
		We need to hear what he said because that sounds nuts.
		I need to know what the full extent of his expression was.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		If they made you be a woman, would you do it?
unidentified		Made me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Just saying if they said.
unidentified		Who would they?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		These people again?
unidentified		I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's back to them.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Whoever they are.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Them, they.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		These non binary people.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Them, they.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They, them.
unidentified		Viz.
unidentified		Theirs.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Zerzi.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Real.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So what did he say?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Instagram live.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		He said it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So he said, the world can proclaim LGBTQ, right?
		Ivy told reporters via live Instagram on Monday morning.
		They proclaim Pride Month and the NBA.
		They proclaim it.
		They show it to the world.
		They say, come join us for Pride Month to celebrate unrighteousness.
		They proclaim it on billboards.
		They proclaim in the streets unrighteousness.
		That's it.
		You said unrighteousness.
		So he's religious.
		So he's talking about Bible scripture.
		Two days later, Ivy streamed live again from a car, once again reading Bible scriptures and speaking extensively on his religious beliefs over the course of a 75 minute stream.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		This is after he got let go.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, interesting.
		Sending prayers.
		Oh, one user comments.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		On the same video, still on Instagram account on Monday, Ivy, whose mother, I don't know how to say her name, Nielli, is a women's basketball coach at Notre Dame, told another viewer.
		Catholicism is a false religion.
		It's not the true doctrine of Christ.
		It does not lead to salvation in Jesus Christ.
		So they're upset that he said it's unrighteous to be gay or LGBTQ.
		That's very nonspecific because that's a lot of different things.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And what he said, I saw what he said, and I understand he had his own views and that's where his thoughts are on it, but let the guy have his views.
		It's like you can push all these agendas, but they don't have like, then push agendas that are.
		Push all the agendas.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, wasn't that one dude saying that the world's flat?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They kept him on.
unidentified		Oh.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Bro, John Ribbon.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Some guy brought a gun to a strip club and they fucking kept him on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's okay.
		That's good old fashioned American fun.
		Bring a gun to a strip club, that's fun.
		But, you know, saying that LGBTQ, like, which one is it that's unrighteous out of that group?
		All of them?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Kyrie Irving, when he was saying that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They kept him on, right?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's still playing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So there you go.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That's a different situation.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		He actually got suspended, but that was like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But he didn't get suspended for saying that the world was flat.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He got suspended because he didn't want to take the vaccine.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Right, yeah, shout out Kyrie Irving, but I'm just kind of surprised there's not more like he bailed on that flat earth stuff, though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think someone schooled him, he might have bailed on that.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but every now and then that flat earth thing, it'll be late at night, and that should have flare up for everybody.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, we might every now and then, Avery was in here talking about it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		When I see a cake, you know, a cake that's under one of those domes, sometimes you'll have that cake.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Somebody will have that's the universe.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Do, do, do, do.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I just think at a certain point, it all seems very bizarre.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It is very bizarre, yeah, very bizarre.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		What does Jamie think?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I think he thinks something.
unidentified		Of what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		About the universe.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		What do you think, Jamie?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And just be honest.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a lot of people that think that consciousness creates reality.
		Not that reality is experiencing consciousness, but consciousness is like woven into reality, it's responsible for its very existence.
		I'm going to do a terrible job of explaining that, but I've watched quite a few videos where these quantum physicists are trying to explain these things, and I have to watch them like three or four times to get into my fucking chimp.
		Brain, but I do a fairly good job of absorbing it.
		And I see what they're trying to do.
		You know those quantum experiments, like the slit experiment?
		There's like these different experiments where they show that observing things has an effect on it.
		They act differently when they're being observed than whether they're not being observed.
		And it's a very controversial segment of science.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's fascinating, actually.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's confusing.
		Quantum science is very confusing.
		And I was watching this lady that was describing this relationship between space and time.
		And I think you know how particles can exist in different places and they communicate with different places?
		They can exist and communicate simultaneously in different parts of the world.
		It's called quantum entanglement.
		And the idea is that if you could get to a certain level of sophistication as far as technology and your understanding of how the universe works, that everything is entangled and that there is no distance between objects, that you can actually instantaneously be anywhere.
		If they could figure out how to harness that.
		That it wouldn't just be particles at a distance instantaneously communicating and they exist in.
		You know, like one of the things about superposition, like a particle can be both still and moving at the same time.
		They can exist and then not exist.
		They go away and then they come back.
		They don't have any idea what the fuck is happening.
		It's weird, you know?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I think I would like to learn more about it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I think I just don't understand it.
unidentified		Nobody does.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the thing.
		It's super confusing.
		Because at the smallest.
		Like, whatever the world and the universe is made out of, the smallest measurable aspect of that is essentially magic.
		It's essentially like open air and vibration, like atoms, like empty space.
		It's all really weird stuff when you get down to like.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And it's fascinating and beautiful.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's incredible.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look, it makes mountains, it makes valleys, lakes, and oceans.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's just crazy.
		We're here on this place, right?
		You know, One of the first things that I ever heard you say that stood, that has been in my mind was like, there was one time you were talking about this years ago.
		You were talking about, we're on a ball of dirt and water traveling through space at this many miles, and nobody's fucking talking about it, you know?
		And I've always remembered that, like, just like that.
		What a fascinating thing that we get to be here.
		And then this is how we behave.
		Like, not us and not all of us.
		We all do in some ways.
		But, like, this is how we behave.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, I think one of the problems is that we don't see space anymore.
		Yeah.
		Because of light pollution.
		I think that's done something to us that's dulled our understanding of our place in the universe.
		And that also might be a feature.
		It might not be a bug.
		It might be a feature because that's how we, instead of being in harmony with nature, we just keep our nose to the grindstone and keep chewing on Adderall and trying to rig the stock market.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because we're just trying to get a new Lambo baby.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, I want a Richard Millet watch.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I want some cash.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I want a Rolls Royce special.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The kind with the stars in the ceiling, bitch.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		When you fucking have real stars outside.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know, isn't that crazy?
unidentified		Dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You sacrifice it all for stars in the ceiling of your Rolls Royce.
unidentified		Oh, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you never get to see the stars because you're living in Miami.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's too many lights.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Sex trafficking.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But meanwhile, if you drive out into the middle of the country where there's no commerce going on at all and you shut your car off and just lay on the hood, it's fucking magic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's magic out there.
unidentified		Magic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The sky's magic.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's gorgeous.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's a fucking big, huge, nice thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you realize, man, oh my God, we are in space.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you never realize that when it's just dark outside.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, because we forget.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Like, we're not even like, I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's easy to not pay attention.
unidentified		It is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's nothing to see.
		You look up, it's dark, but you want to go to the club.
		You look up, it's dark.
		Let's go eat.
		You look up, it's dark.
		I'm going home.
		Let's look up.
		Oh, my girlfriend just called me.
		I got to go pick her up.
unidentified		Bye.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, you're in your world.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're in your world.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're not thinking about fucking space.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And to think, dude.
		And to think that, like, the crazy thing is sometimes if you lay there and look at the stars and stuff, it feels like, bro, and this is real shit I'm saying right now to me.
		I think I'm saying this.
unidentified		Okay.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It feels like they're looking back at you a little bit.
unidentified		Mm hmm.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Maybe they're conscious.
		Maybe the universe is conscious.
		Maybe consciousness exists everywhere.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, you would think if they're all placed there and they're in, you know, these stars are there.
		It would seem that if we went and put ourselves before them, that it would grant us something, you know?
		Like, I'm not saying like something magical, but something that we need.
		Because most of the way that things are set up, it's like everything was kind of set up in perfection, like in our bodies, like the fact that we exist, the fact that the eye is put together and operates the way that it does, the fact that they have like moles and parrots and everything that.
		The fact that it all happens.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And we kind of neglect that there's these like, there's these orbs out there in the distance.
		Maybe they want to hear from us.
		Maybe they want us to sit there and look at them and think.
		Maybe they help us.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you think we're being visited?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Do you?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I think a lot of it's lies, too.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Do you think the governments, the big governments, or.
unidentified		What do you mean?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
		Do you think they know who's very.
		Do you think they know who's.
		Do you think they have met.
		Do you think these upper echelon people have met the visitors and there's some other thing going on?
		Because something's.
		There's something.
		It feels like something's going to happen soon, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps that's possible.
		Perhaps.
		But if I was from another planet, like this is.
		I talked about this in my special.
		That if, like, I went.
		When I go fishing.
		I don't check in to see who the president of the lake is.
		I just show up and trick those dumb motherfuckers with fake fish, pull them out by their lips, take a picture of them, and drop them off back in the water.
		Because they're a bass.
		They're so below me.
		I don't think who's the leader of the bass.
		So the idea that aliens come down here and who's the leader of the people, I highly doubt they give a fuck if they talk to Trump.
		He's out there building a ballroom and shit.
		They're like, leave that guy alone.
		I'm not interested in him.
		But maybe they might visit military establishments.
		If they find a nuclear weapons base, maybe.
		I would go to that because they probably know the signal of nuclear armament.
		They probably know the signal of these weapons.
		They probably would visit those places.
		But would they interact with the people on the ground?
		Perhaps.
		Maybe they would.
		Maybe they would if they could be assured of their safety.
unidentified		Maybe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's possible.
		But I don't think we're alone.
		I think that's silly.
		I think the idea that we're alone is silly.
		There's a lot of crazy equations that people have made.
		You know what the Fermi paradox is?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		The Fermi?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fermi paradox.
		Yeah.
		I think he's an Italian scientist.
		It's like if there are aliens and there's so many stars in the universe, there's so many planets in the universe.
		Do you know there's more planets in the universe than there have been seconds since the Big Bang?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		No way.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		How do we know it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I just read it and I'm just saying it to you like I'm smart.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I believe you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Put that into perplexity.
		I love using AI.
		I know it's taken over the world, but I don't give a fuck.
		I've learned so much.
		If you use it correctly, I think it's like everything else.
		I use it every day.
		I use it whenever I write.
		If I write about a subject, I'm like, tell me why he did that.
		Tell me what this is.
		You just ask it.
		It just gives you instantaneous information.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		It is pretty fascinating.
		That's why it used to be for information you had to go to somebody to get it, but now it's like everybody kind of has it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, you have to go nowhere, son.
		And Elon was saying that he doesn't think apps are going to exist in the future.
		He thinks everything's going to be you and a device communicating with AI.
		Here it is.
		Are there more stars in the observable universe than seconds have passed since the Earth was formed?
		Yes, that statement is likely very true by a large margin.
		No, no, no, not the Earth, but the universe.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I Googled it and that's what actually came up was that version.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Estimated star, okay.
		Age of the Earth, yeah, so there's definitely way more planets, but that's stars.
		You wrote stars.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I know, that's what came up.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you, I typed in what you said.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What did you type in?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Are there more planets than there have been seconds since the Big Bang?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I'll rephrase this.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Damn.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Not more stars.
		Are there more planets in the universe than there have been seconds since the Big Bang?
		Not the Earth formed.
		Since the Big Bang.
		This is the nutty one.
		Because that's crazy.
		Yes, by current estimates, there are far more planets in the observable universe than seconds have passed since the Big Bang.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, the crazy thing is a lot of kids nowadays.
unidentified		That's crazy.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Wait, say it one more time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's more planets in the universe than seconds that have passed since the Big Bang.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		So then I start to think I wonder if it's a contest and God is seeing what planet can really create the most love amongst the planet, you know?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And get it done right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you know Terrence Howard, the actor?
unidentified		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He had a very interesting theory, and he's an interesting guy.
		He's a very intelligent guy.
		He's not educated in a classical sense, but he's a brilliant guy.
		Not educated about a lot of the things he discusses.
		But one theory that he had was he thinks that the way planets are formed is there's ejections from stars, and over time they coalesce and become planets, and this stuff in space becomes planets, and the distance they are from the stars.
		Where it gets to a distance where it's in that Goldilocks zone where life can be established.
		And then he says planets become peopled because it gets to a certain time where people evolve from these planets.
		And he thinks this is like a natural thing that happens all over the universe that these planets get peopled.
		And as they get further and further away from the star, the planet gets less and less habitable.
		And those things, those intelligent creatures on that planet, become more and more intelligent and more and more innovative and more and more capable of surviving without.
		The protection of the Goldilocks zone, and then they become interstellar, and then they develop like their own sustaining environments.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		So, you think that's what's happening to us?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that's probably what's going to happen to us.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, if we leave that orbit of safety, AI is a part of that.
unidentified		Right.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		If we leave that orbit of safety.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, today, Artemis, they're supposedly flying around the moon.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, these are the first people that have gone into deep space since 1972, since the Apollo missions.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's today.
		That's happening.
		Nobody knows it.
		That's what's nuts.
		This is taking, I think, 10 people?
unidentified		Four?
unidentified		Four?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is it 10 days?
		How many days are they doing it?
		It's 10 days.
		10 days.
		Four people, 10 days, and they're going around the moon and coming back to Earth.
		No one's done that since 1972.
unidentified		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it's happening today, and no one cares.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's kind of weird, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's kind of weird.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Whatever that is, that's part of us that has really been doctored pretty heavily.
		The part of us that doesn't even find a big fascination in that, that's the part of myself that I want to find more of.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's very weird.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's very weird that we've become dull to fascinating things.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But also, do we even believe some of it?
		It's like we don't even know if it's real.
		It's like so much of this shit you see these videos, it's like that's not even real.
		The Iranian protests, or something, or like the happiness in the street.
		They were just saying that that was not even.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was a totally different thing that they were filming.
		And then there was one that people were saying was older, and then we found out, no, it's not.
		It's actually those current people protesting in Iran that we were bombing them, and they were like in favor of the government.
		But then you got to know, like, well, how many people are scared to death and they're doing that because they don't want to get killed because the government has killed thousands and thousands of people, including like major public.
		Figures to show that no one has any favoritism.
		Like, they killed this championship wrestler, like, an incredible wrestler.
		They killed two different wrestlers that supposedly protested against the government.
		So, who fucking knows?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Did you see that they don't know that there's conflicts of interest about, or no?
		Did you see, sorry, I'm starting a sentence off wrong.
		Did you see that there is some issues about the bullet that killed that guy of Charlie Kirk?
		I'm sorry.
		And I didn't mean to say that guy.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But I wasn't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let me clarify that, I think, and we'll find out if this is correct.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I see headlines and I see the way people are talking about it, and I don't know if it's accurate.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because what I think is accurate is what they're saying is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That from the fragments of the bullet, they were unable to determine that it came from that Mauser rifle.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I see.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		My issue with it, and I'm no expert, but I have shot things.
		Like, I'm a hunter.
		I've shot things with rifles.
		I've shot a lot of rifles.
		A 30 odd six is a big round.
		That's a big round.
		Show me an image.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Would it hurt if it hit you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Experts debunked Tyler Robinson's ballistic claim unable to identify is not the same as ruled out, which is exactly what I'm saying.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So show me an image of a 30 odd six round, 30 06 rifle round.
		I want you to look at this.
		Look at the size of that fucker.
		Okay.
		Look at a 30 odd six versus a 308.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's a fucking paperweight.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A 30 odd six is a big round.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You see it in that guy's hand?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Oh my God.
		Are you serious?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's 30 odd six.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So this is my.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's a fat little hand, though.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		This is a fat little hand.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's like my hand.
		This is the point that that's a big round.
		That's not a small round.
		I mean, I don't know.
		What isn't it compared to?
		I use a 300 Win Mag.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Look at that right there.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You just had it, those cartridges.
unidentified		5.56.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is meant for war, 30 odd six is meant for hunting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think that's accurate.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that doesn't look realistic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what a 30 odd six looks like.
		Okay, in comparison to a quarter.
		So you look at it.
		So a quarter is about that high, it's about that big.
		That's a big round, dude.
		That's a round for hunting like elk.
		Like it's a very common round.
		Well, see, do me a favor and compare 30 odd six to 300 wind mag.
		Compared to 300 WinMag?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm just scared, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, 300 WinMag, I think, is fatter.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let's see the difference.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There it is.
		300 WinMag on the left.
		Oh, 30 odd six is bigger.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, look.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that real?
unidentified		I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Which one's which, though?
		I don't know.
		Show me that one far left.
		Far left?
unidentified		Right there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, 300 WinMag and 30 odd.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, 300 WinMag has a little bit more powder in it.
unidentified		See?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		See how it goes higher up?
		So, it has more charge.
		It's a bigger round.
		But my point is, that's a big round.
		So, like a 300 wind mag is a big round.
		30 out of 6 is slightly smaller, but it's still, that's a lot of powder in that bad boy.
		That's a lot of firepower.
		So, this is what a lot of people have an issue with the wound.
		That there was no exit wound.
		It shot him in like the soft tissue of the neck.
		If it killed you, it wouldn't go out.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Would you feel pain?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it looked like he was dead almost instantly.
		It looked like he slumped over.
		I think he was at the very least unconscious.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But it would have left his body, you're saying?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think it would have blown a hole out the back.
		That's the thing.
		It's like nine millimeters do that sometimes.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It just doesn't, it seems weird that it doesn't have an exit hole.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It seems weird that you're shooting him in the neck and the image from the back, there's a video of him getting shot from the back.
		It doesn't leave an exit hole.
		So it doesn't look like it's that round.
		There's also the fact that this guy supposedly climbed on the roof with it and then assembled it, which doesn't make sense because if you assemble it, that means you have to take the scope off, put the scope back on.
		You have to zero the rifle after you do stuff like that.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the guy who had, uh, who, uh, killed or allegedly killed Osama bin Laden, who's that, Mike?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Uh, Mike, who's the.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know who you're talking about, the Navy SEAL.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yep, he was just talking about that.
		And I only say allegedly because I don't know anything about that.
		I don't know the specifics, even though I read the freaking book he wrote.
		Um, but yeah, he was saying that, uh, To be able to do all that and get off of that roof, it all seems bizarre.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Not only that, they supposedly disconnected the rifle again, took it apart on the roof, put it in his backpack, jumped off with it, and then reassembled it and left it in the woods.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And allegedly, was that a Dairy Queen?
		Do you see that?
		Who could shoot someone and go to Dairy Queen?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It seems weird.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then also, his family's denying that he confessed.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They were saying that no, he didn't confess.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And we haven't heard of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		His family said 2% of what they're saying about this is correct.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Have you reached out to them or have they reached out to you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Well, I don't think they can.
		I mean, They're probably terrified about their son's future in life.
		Like they're trying to pin this crime on him.
		Who knows if he did it or didn't do it?
		I'm not saying he did it.
		I'm not saying he didn't do it.
		But I am saying that the story of him climbing up there with a disassembled gun, assembling it, making that shot, disassembling it again, climbing down, if that's the narrative, that sounds like straight horseshit.
		And the video of him hopping down does not look like he's a rifle when he's hopping down.
		So what's happening?
		How did he get up there?
		How did no one see it?
		There's so many things that are fucked up about that story that doesn't.
		It doesn't totally make sense, but a big one to me is the actual bullet hole, the actual damage that that rifle does.
		Look, but here's another thing guns do weird things sometimes, like bullets do weird things, and sometimes they don't respect.
		Maybe it hit, maybe it fucking center punched his spinal column and it did blow apart and it didn't go out the back.
		It's possible.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Have we seen, have they released any information about the autopsy?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you would think that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what the specifics are, but I know a lot of people are very skeptical, which they are about everything these days, which is also a part of the problem.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, they have to be skeptical because the news is compromised.
		The news is owned by, you know, it's not good.
		And, uh.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's also, there's a lot of disinformation out there.
		There's a lot of, like, covering up stories.
		There's a lot of weird shit.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And, yes.
		And then even, uh, other places can put out news that's bad for us.
		They'll be like, oh, well, we'll put this out there.
unidentified		Sure.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's disguised as information.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Um, But did you see that exploding mic theory?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Did you guys talk about that on here?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've heard that theory, but I don't know if that makes sense.
		I don't know.
		I've heard people talk about it, but I hadn't looked into it.
		It looks like he got shot.
		I don't know if the microphone's going to hit you in the neck.
		How do you know where the mic's pointing?
		You're moving around a lot.
		How do you know when to make it go off?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
		They had it on his shirt at a specific spot.
		But yeah, you're right.
		How would you know?
		But then the place where they.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It sounds like a gunshot, though.
		And there's a delay between the gunshot and the impact in terms of acoustic readings.
		And I think somebody did an analysis of the distance they believe the shot was taken from based on the sound.
		If that is the round that they use, 30 odd six, based on the sound of the gunshot going off and the amount of time before it impacts them.
		It's a very small amount of time, but it is measurable.
		And they think that it might have actually been closer than what they're saying, which is, I think, 100 and something yards.
		I forget what the exact distance was.
		What was the exact distance, supposedly?
		I think it was like 140 yards or something like that.
		But the weird thing is, like, this whole idea of assembling and disassembling doesn't work like that, man.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And if the guy's not a professional, was he a professional?
unidentified		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, he definitely wasn't a professional.
		But you could get trained.
		Like, shooting a rifle at 140 yards with a really good scope, if you've shot a bunch of times with a rifle and you can keep your shit together, is not that far of a shot.
		You can make that shot.
		People can make that shot.
		He wasn't even wearing a bulletproof vest, even though he did obviously get hit in the neck.
		But.
		The thing is, like, if that's the narrative, and I don't know if they're still sticking with the story, but that was what they were saying at first that he disassembled it and reassembled it.
		Reassembling a gun does not make it accurate.
		You have to zero a rifle in.
		And what that involves is, you get to, like, whatever the yardage are that you're trying it out, like 100 yards, and, you know, you squeeze off a trigger, and then you look through the binoculars, or you have a spotter with a scope next to you, and he says, six inches high right.
		And so then you adjust it, you adjust the scope, and then do you get it where it's firing, and you do it on a rest?
		It takes a few shots, man.
		So you have a rest so that you're not moving the rifle around where it can be human error can be attributed to the miss.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And if you're on a hot roof, that was a hot roof, wasn't it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Most official and media accounts put the shot at roughly 200 yards, with some investigative timeline suggesting a range of about 150 to 200 yards.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So somewhere between 150 and 200 yards.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And also being on a hot roof, have you ever been on a hot roof?
unidentified		I have.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, it's hot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it wasn't that hot.
		Well, yeah, it was.
		It was September.
		September in Utah, actually not that hot.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It sounds hot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't think it was.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because this was happening while I was out elk hunting.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		What town did it happen in?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I'm not sure.
		It was in Utah, though.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I think it was in southern Utah, wasn't it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but Utah's, you know, Utah's a mountain.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a mountain town.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, my brother lives in Utah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I like Utah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like I said, I was in Utah at the time.
unidentified		Oh, you were?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was hunting in the mountains.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's interesting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I don't know nothing.
		I started getting all these text messages from people wanting me to comment on things.
		I was like, what are you talking about?
		I literally didn't know what was going on.
		But I had to use the Starlink to get online.
		Oh, wow.
		I got a Starlink.
		It's like the size of a fucking iPad.
		And you lay it on the ground, you get high speed internet.
unidentified		It's incredible.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's cool shit.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that's how I had to research it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Find out what the fuck people are talking about.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But did you see there was the facility in Tennessee where they bought whatever the mic thing was, allegedly?
		That place thing got completely obliterated.
		16 people died.
unidentified		What?
unidentified		What?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		If you can bring that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Where they made the microphones?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Where they made the.
		Lapel mic that he was wearing.
		This is like a.
		This is probably a conspiracy thing or something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Where'd you get this?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		TikTok?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		This is a conspiracy theory or it's something that's absolutely true.
unidentified		I just.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I haven't heard that one at all.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I think James Lee said it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I'm trying to stay away from this shit.
unidentified		I agree.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's why I'm not.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's why I don't know.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		It's just.
		I think it.
		I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just a tough one.
		So, my point about the round is it's a large round, and it seems like it would have done more damage.
		And this is not my opinion.
		This is the opinion of many experts.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I agree with their opinion.
		It's not uniquely my opinion.
		I saw it, and I'm like, oh my God, he got shot.
		And then I heard it was a 30 odd six, and I was like, hmm.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's interesting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a little odd.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		If you had to get shot, what would you like to get?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		If you had to get shot?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You want to get killed, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't want to get.
unidentified		I don't.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Shoot me with a 22.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'd take a 22, but a 22 kills people.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Where would you take it at?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Take it in the shoulder, I guess.
unidentified		Fuck yeah.
		No, dude.
		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't want to get shot, period.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		I agree, Joe, but I'm just saying, if you had to get shot, how do you, like.
		Because here's the.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Buck cheek, 22, tighten up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Take it in the butt cheek.
unidentified		Bang.
unidentified		Bang.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Not good.
		No, no bullet is good to take, but the point is that seemed like not enough damage for that kind of round.
		But I might be wrong.
		Again, I might be wrong in that bullet speed.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's okay if you're wrong.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If it hit the spine and it blew apart, but I just feel like you would find a lot of it in there.
		Dude, especially if there's no exit wound.
		Like, where's.
		How come you can't find.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		The whole thing's bizarre, dude.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Do you see the part, Jamie, that I'm talking about where that thing blew up?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, but I'm trying to find a good.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Okay, understood.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And there may not be one.
unidentified		Thank you.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I brought it up yesterday.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you did?
		Okay.
		Yeah, it's just like, I don't know.
		I think I'm just scared.
		And it's like, yeah, what do you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There it is.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I just don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		18 people unaccounted for after deadly explosion in the Rocks, Tennessee plant.
		First responders rushed to accurate energetic systems.
		That sounds like a CIA operation.
		A facility on the line of Humphreys and Hickman counties that processes ammunition and explosives.
		But is this the place that made the microphones?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		So, the conspiracy says that the microphone was taken to this place to be converted into like an explosion.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Somebody found an invoice from it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That was the piece of information that was going around.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who found that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that James Lee found that?
unidentified		Not sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		See if you can find what James Lee has to say.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's my number one source of information.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's what I heard, dude.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I got to podcast with him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I got to meet him, dude.
unidentified		Is he cool?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He's a nice guy, bro.
		He's fun.
		Yeah, he's like, well, his story is wild because he was working as a consultant for.
		One of the big pharmaceutical companies, like one of the big ones that we know, right?
		And he just couldn't say the name, but he could say it, but he never said it.
unidentified		Right.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And then he was in a Zoom one time, and they're like, okay, we still have a lot of stockpile from the first vaccination.
		And that's when he said they started suggesting, allegedly, that people should then get a second vaccination because they had this first, they still had more of the original vaccine.
		So it was just like a thing, well, we have more of it, let's sell it back to them.
		And that's why.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And so he started getting very skeptical.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		So he started really getting skeptical, and then he got out of it, and he said he just wants to, like, Expose things that he feels like are not real or true.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You think he might be CIA?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You gotta worry.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		You gotta wonder.
		People thought Sean Ryan was cool.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've heard people say that.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Remember?
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That was a thing, but then now people don't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't seem like he is.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Unless they're being clever.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I just wanna be able to have like a family and just like think that everybody's gonna be able to live.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That would be nice.
		Yeah, that's the thing about ideologies and tribes.
		If it wasn't for ideologies and tribes, the idea is that we should all be able to live together.
		But the problem is, it's not fair the way the world's distributed.
		You know the statistic about the 1% of the world?
		It's $34,000.
		You make $34,000, you are in the 1% of the world.
		That's crazy.
unidentified		I know.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's just tough sometimes to figure it out.
		You have to pray.
		That's what I've been trying to do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In order for us to get cheap jeans and an iPhone that only costs $1,000, somebody has to get paid squat.
		Somebody has to get fucked over.
		Somebody has to work long hours and live in those Foxconn factories where they have nets to keep people from jumping off the roof, you know?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bro, you know when you're working in a place and there's so many people jumping off the roof that they just put nets up?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You got a problem.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's not a fun work environment.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Ron's hitting the nets, guys.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Oh, Ron.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You got to hit the net again.
		You're like, you dumb motherfucker.
		Why do you keep jumping in the net?
		I want to see what it feels like if I jump by then.
		I know what.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Somebody comes back from lunch break and they just have the net marks on their face and they're like, ah, you tried it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But dude, it's just sad, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It is sad.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And we're better than this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, humans overall are better than this.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		So people that are not acting better than this are not, they're not.
		I mean, I know we all have mistakes and we all do things that are fucked up, right?
		But like at a point where you're like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We should all be doing better.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Taking lives.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And if it's not the regular people, I feel like it's the governments, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		100%.
		It is 100%.
		Because if it was just people, we'd all figure out how to get along.
		Unless you think those people are the infidels, or those people are the Goyum, or those people are the Jews, or those people are the Arabs, or whatever you decide, those are the other.
		You decide to other a group of people.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Then it becomes a problem because it's us versus them.
		And then you're back to the same tribal bullshit that needs to turn us all trans.
		That's why we need to lose our gender and lose our primate dominant instincts and all of our territorial instincts.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, I told you I was going to mail my dick away.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We're going to be.
		All telepathic with big old heads and little tiny mouths because we're not going to use them anymore because no one's going to have a dick to suck.
		No one's going to have a clit to lick.
		You communicate with your mind so your mouth gets just going to atrophy and you're going to get all your food through like a suck hole.
		You're going to have just a straw to eat all your food.
		They're going to figure out how to make perfect food where it's just like you don't have to go to a restaurant, eat chicken, or have fish.
		No, no, no.
		Suck on a straw.
		Get all the nutrients you need in this fucking sludge.
		And the sludge makes it feel like an orgasm when you take it.
		That's why you get people to do it.
		They take it, it lights all their synapses up.
		Like when you hit that busy boy first thing in the morning.
		Give me a hit of that real quick.
unidentified		My man!
unidentified		Let's go!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is the first hit, it's the good one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Give me a hit.
unidentified		Ready?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Operate there, yeah.
		Hit that bitch, Ricky.
		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's that first one.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		That's it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That tastes good.
		What's in that one?
		That's like a professional one.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's coffee.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, that's delicious.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a professional one, though.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's a trap.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this one is for outdoors people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Outdoorsy.
		But it doesn't taste outdoorsy.
		It tastes like fake coffee.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'll leave it over here if you do.
unidentified		Nope.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm good.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'll keep it in here.
unidentified		One hits good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		I know it's a slippery slope.
		I'll be pulling into the gas station to get an Escobar later.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, Escobars.
		Those are the ones.
		Remember, you said you were hiding from yourself at night.
unidentified		Get you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I had to hide them from myself.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They get me.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes I'd be ashamed.
		So I'd take your hit and I'd blow it into my shirt.
		I wouldn't want anybody to know I'm doing it.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But your tight shirt, that bitch fucking comes right out the armpits.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's why I wear a hoodie.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Just leave.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Put it over the top.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Cover up like a monk.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But tell me, Joe, like, what are some things that, yeah, that we can do to keep us in a space of giving ourselves the best chance to, um, To feel human, because yeah, one day you're going to go to a museum and there's going to be a smile in there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it has to happen on an individual basis, right?
		Everybody has to be human to each other on an individual basis.
		And sometimes it takes something chaotic, like a tragedy, like 9 11, for people to just be cool to each other.
		You know, I remember I've talked about this before, but post 9 11, everyone was so connected.
		Everyone was smiling.
		People were letting you get on the highway.
		They're letting you get in their lane.
		They were waving.
		Everyone had an American flag on their car.
		We've been attacked, we were united.
		You know, and it's just sad that it takes something like that for people to realize like, this is a gift to be alive in this incredible country at this incredible time in history.
		But we are under the rule of tyrants, you know, and I'm not saying that's the U.S. government's tyrant or I'm not, no individual, but every government that is in control of military that is involved in these exchanges with other countries, they're run by tyrants.
		Someone's a tyrant, whether it's Putin or this guy or that guy or whoever is in charge of Iran right now.
		They keep the people on the street from using the internet.
		They kill all the protesters.
unidentified		That's the problem.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The problem is people in power.
		It's not people.
		People generally are good, especially when they're not starving.
		When they're not starving and they're not desperate and they're not being attacked, most people generally are good.
		Obviously, dependent upon how you grew up and what you were exposed to when you were young and what kind of horrors did you have to see.
		Were you in a war torn country?
		Were you in a third world place where the cartels run everything?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Did you see those kids in Gaza with like, they had like, they were playing.
		Doll, and they were like, it was like they loaded their doll up on a stretcher.
		Like, they were fucking heartbreaking, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Imagine, like, the just the trauma.
		If you lived in that place pre October 7th, it was not fun, even back then.
		It was an open air prison by most accounts.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, they were taking settlers' homes, they were just they'd come and knock into your home and then eventually just take it away.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a there's an attitude that a lot of Israelis have that it's all theirs, you know.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Here's an explanation.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Tenfoil hat time, though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dun, dun, dun.
		Exactly, Oakes.
		Hey, this is a dude named Mike France.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't James Lee reporting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Mike Frank Oakes.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		This is the same stuff I've seen elsewhere.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Says October 10, 2025, exactly one month after Kirk's death, a catastrophic explosion destroyed Building 602 at the Accurate Energetic Systems facility in McEwen, Tennessee.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The blast, estimated to involve 23,000 pounds of explosives, killed 16 employees, injured several others, and registered as a 1.6 magnitude seismic event.
unidentified		Yo.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The U.S. Chemical Safety Board confirmed the site produced cast boosters and miniaturized shaped charges for military and industrial use.
		Conspiracy theorists allege that AES was the manufacturer of the miniature shaped charge used in Charlie Kirk's assassination.
		They point to a $425,000 Department of Defense contract awarded to AES in May of 2025 for extra small anti personnel demolition charges, possibly used in covert operations.
		The timing of the explosion.
		Just weeks after Charlie Kirk's death has fueled speculation that it was a deliberate cover up to destroy evidence and eliminate the personnel with knowledge of the technology.
		So there's the pager attacks, the Lebanon pager attacks.
		Here's my problem with that explanation, and I'm not saying that I'm right and they're wrong.
		My problem is I don't see that thing exploding.
		So that microphone, I don't see it exploding.
		I don't see fire coming out of it.
		If you have a gun and the gun goes off six inches from someone's neck like that, you're going to see a charge out of the gun.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's a great point.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And if it's a small device without a barrel, Something has to propel that energy, and that's an explosion.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And if it explodes, you're going to see it explode, unless they've developed some sort of way of hiding that.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That I don't know about.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But if they're talking about conventional gunpowder and what they use for bullet rounds, that doesn't seem to make sense to me.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I might be missing something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, that's actually a great point that you said.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I agree with you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It kind of seems like that thing would spark.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's close to his neck, it's blowing his neck up.
		I mean, it seems odd.
		Odd that it can do that without fire.
		Doesn't make sense.
		But I might be missing something.
		There might be some new technology that I'm not aware of.
		Let's find out that.
		Is there any technology that exists where you could have a projectile come out of a small thing like a microphone that's on someone's neck and not have fire?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I don't know.
		It may make my head hurt.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it should make your head hurt.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But there's also probably some stuff that we're not hip to.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, for sure, dude.
unidentified		Right.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		They come out with stuff all the time that we'll never see, probably.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, they have drones that look like bugs.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're like, looks like a bug.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it's a fucking drone, a little itty bitty drone.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You're just sitting there spraying raid on something that's watching y'all fuck or whatever at night?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's getting films.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Christy Gnome's husband.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, boy.
		He had them Murpers on him, huh?
		What was he doing?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did anybody explain what that was about?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Was it really just like a Halloween costume or something?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's what I thought it was, probably.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But then there's some other ones where he's kind of lipsticking.
unidentified		He actually.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it could be he was fucking around for like a party or something like that.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		He was giving Kevin Spacey in a lot of this.
unidentified		You could.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Feel like Kevin Spacey coming to some of those photos.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But here's the question Is that a costume he was wearing for funsies or is this like a dress up thing?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This guy's a freak.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's what I thought it was his costume wearing for.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It could be because if it is a costume for funsies and then somebody finds it on your laptop, like, I gotta explain.
		How can we're just fucking around?
		I was doing Wanda from In Living Color.
unidentified		You know?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I ain't the one to gossip, so you ain't heard it from me.
unidentified		I mean.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Was that Wanda?
unidentified		No.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Which one was Wanda?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I forget.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, how great was that show, dude?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Amazing show.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Amazing show.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		One of the greats.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, we would go in our neighborhood afterwards, and me, Larry, Eddie, Wayne King, just guys off of my street, dude, we'd go out there and impersonate all of the freaking characters.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bro, that show was groundbreaking.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That's right, what it says.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Hundreds of messages, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then this was some of them, I think.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean, blah, blah, blah?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've done messages about what?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I said there were three models of women, there were three women, so I think hundreds of messages reportedly sent by three women from the scene.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Christy Nump's husband.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Didn't she just get let go or something?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Hundreds of messages.
		Trady Selfie is a woman who pledges worship like a goddess, telling her, you turn me into a girl.
		Before asking if he should put on leggings.
		Oh, okay, but is this real, right?
		Or is it so?
		The post has not confirmed the details reported by the mail.
		This is what mail?
		The Daily Mail?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's originally reported, I think.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let me tell you something about the Daily Mail.
		They just made an article saying that I'm moving out of Austin.
		Oh, that I'm fed up with Austin.
		I'm moving out of Austin.
		That's not true.
		And that was published by the Daily Mail.
unidentified		Right.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And also, didn't Christy Gnome just go through something where she got let go?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Or something, is that right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and not just let go, but involved in a scandal, so some sort of a money scandal.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes this kind of follows that, it's hard to know, but he also looks like who's that actor right there?
unidentified		He looks like a little bit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What are those boobs?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Those are crazy, Will Arnett, or something.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		No, not Will Arnett.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's got crazy fake boobs, like they're nuts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's balloons, that's all it is.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so how do we know he's got tricked easy, bro?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Joe just got tricked, bro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they're real.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I thought they were like a fake one, but you was thinking about him.
		Oh, she's John Binaying right there.
		Look at that.
		Crazy to me, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, supposedly, there's letters that he was sending to girls that you make me dress up like a girl.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But look, again, isn't it crazy that she's involved in some sort of a scandal that's about money?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And then this comes out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then this comes out.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		You have to start to notice that.
		And then here's the craziest part.
		At a certain point.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Forget about him.
		Can you find out what she was let go for and what's involved in it?
		Because there was some sort of a campaign fund scandal or something that has to do something with money.
		A lot of money.
unidentified		Like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Millions, millions and millions of dollars.
		And then all of a sudden, this happens.
		You got to get a little suspicious.
		In this day and age?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It was the campaign commercials she got in trouble for because they hired someone she knew and she was riding a horse through the fucking.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, but there's something about the money being inappropriately spent.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It's like $100 million or something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		$100 million?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Or $28 million?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to find this article.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let's not comment until we have the specifics.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Joe, do you think that things would be any different with America's relationship in the Middle East right now if the Republicans hadn't won the election, if Trump hadn't won?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Or do you think it's all the same?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a good question.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You think it's all the same, like Geppetto's in the distance, like running the strings?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, the last administration funded the proxy war in Ukraine.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		200.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they were.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, a firm tied to Christy Gnome secretly got money from $220 million DHS ad contracts.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, okay.
		For $220 million, you could put tits on my husband for $220 million, you know?
		But you know what I'm saying?
		And I'm not even a gay guy.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But now they're painting her out to be a nutcase, right?
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because her husband's a freak.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, this firm, not saying that he's not a freak.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He might really be in a dressing up like a girl.
		That might all be real.
		That might be something.
		Let him cook.
		He might have autogyne.
unidentified		Let him cook.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That might be coming out because of this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And there's probably a bunch of people that got some money and they're like, let's try to make this ugly.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's scary, too, because it's like.
unidentified		Who knows?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we don't know anything about the case, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We don't know anything about either case the money missing or his fake tits.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I never had no fake tits.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I've done some weird shit here and there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Steve almost got a pair of fake tits.
unidentified		Did he?
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		That's too much.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's too much.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But he's in that, you know, constant, perpetual state of having to one up himself, doing something more and more ridiculous every time.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Do, um, what do you think is going to happen?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You think we're going to be okay?
unidentified		I hope so.
unidentified		Of course.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Do you think about it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm confused.
		I can't believe we went to this war.
		When we started bombing Iran, I was like, this can't be true.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And what about Lebanon now?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		Israel's invaded Lebanon.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, just fucking stop it.
unidentified		What do you need?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're trying to, supposedly, they're trying to stop the terrorists.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy, though, if you're the fucking terrorist.
		You know what I'm saying?
		Like, if you want to stop them, fucking stand in front of the fucking mirror and start there.
		But also, what do I know?
unidentified		What do you know?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		You're right, I don't.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But it's all just like, fuck, there's got to be some way that we're better than this.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		What they're saying is, like, if this was found out by a story about Christine Home's husband, it was found out by, like, a newspaper online.
unidentified		Allegedly.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		And that if they can find this out, then.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Obviously, hostile intelligence services, according to the CIA officer Mark Polymeropoulos, knows this stuff as well.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If a media organization finds this out, you can assume that a high degree of confidence that a hostile intelligence service knows this as well, added former CIA officer Mark Polymeropoulos.
unidentified		That's probably it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Damaging information like this can be a tantalizing lead for a hostile intelligence source.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They approach the person and say, If you work with us, we won't expose this, and if you don't, we will.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		So he's posting these online and someone came across them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, he might be a freak.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Let him fucking cook a little bit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look, I think a lot of those people that are involved in government are freaks and I bet their husbands and wives are freaks too.
		They're fucking weirdos.
		They want to be in power.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They want to wear leggings.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		It's all crazy.
		We just have to focus on the things that we can.
		Like Matt McCusker, he started a garden.
		It's like 10 to the garden that you can have, you know?
		He grows blueberries and he grows.
		That's the way to do it, right?
		He actually grew one blueberry his.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		During the congressional hearings, Christine Nome was probed about accusations of conducting a taxpayer funded affair with her former aide, Corey Lewandowski, who has since left the Department of Homeland Security.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Corey Lewandowski, dude?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I was in a fucking fantasy football league with that guy.
unidentified		For real?
		Yes.
		For real.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Pull him up again, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No kidding?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let me see a photo of him.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Mother effer, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's pretty hot.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Cee Lou, bro.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Oh, this is a different dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, seems like a different dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So that guy was the guy who was banging her.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Supposedly, allegedly.
		Who knows?
		But again, when there's a bunch of money that's missing and there's a scandal, hundreds of millions of dollars, weird shit starts getting tossed around.
		They throw you at House of Cards, baby.
		Go rewatch it.
		I think that's probably the most accurate depiction of how the government works.
unidentified		Yeah.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Kevin's a fascinating guy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, everybody in that show was great.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was just like a really well made show.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		That show was fascinating.
		He did it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		All right, dog.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We got to wrap this up soon.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, that's fine with me.
		I thought you were.
		I thought you.
		I was staying here because you're here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I love you.
unidentified		I love you too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I have things I got to do.
unidentified		You too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Are you going to be around tonight or are you going back?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I might stop by.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bus Boys in theaters, April 17th.
		So that's like two weeks from now.
		Let's fucking go.
		Two weeks and a few days.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let's fucking go.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for letting me come and talk about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm excited for you.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And just to see you.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm excited too, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I hope it kills it.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I just think.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure it's going to be really funny with you and David Spade.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		We tried our.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		We did a good job.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Dude, he's so funny.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm sure it's going to be awesome.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		But thank you for everything, dude.
unidentified		My pleasure.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And it's good to see you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Always good to see you.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Come by tonight.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let's hang out.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'll come by.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I have a show tonight, but I'll come by.
unidentified		Where are you at?
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm at this Moody Theater.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'm practicing for my special, so I've got to get ready.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What time are you at the Moody?
unidentified		Seven.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But come by.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We'll be there until I'm going to be there for a while.
unidentified		Okay.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		I'll come by and say half.
unidentified		All right.
		All right.
		Beautiful.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		Good to see you.
theo von ▲ ● ▼		And Jamie, thank you so much.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bus Boys, April 17th.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Go watch it.
unidentified		We love you guys.
unidentified		Bye.

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