The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #2436 - Whitney Cummings

Jan. 10, 2026 - The Joe Rogan Experience

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Joe Rogan Experience #2436 - Whitney Cummings

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Whitney Cummings and Joe Rogan dive into bizarre historical marketing—like Kellogg’s cereals, originally pushed as bland foods to curb childhood masturbation—while debating plant toxins (oxalates, lectins) and glyphosate in California wines. They expose charity fraud, including $100M diverted from LA Fire Aid and $24B unaccounted for in California’s homelessness programs, questioning systemic oversight. The episode also critiques AI governance risks, CIA psychological operations (like the Philippines’ "Aswang" fear tactics), and modern violence trends, like Florida’s Calcio Storico soccer brawls, suggesting tech may reshape human aggression. Ultimately, it’s a sharp, chaotic mix of health myths, corporate hypocrisy, and geopolitical skepticism wrapped in dark humor. [Automatically generated summary]
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Speaker	Time	Text
unidentified		Joe Rogan podcast, check it out!
		The Joe Rogan experience.
		Train by day, Joe Rogan.
		Podcast by night, all day.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's just for Dice to hold.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he just holds onto him.
unidentified		Oh!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Then he holds onto him, then he swaps them out for a new one.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Was the unlit cigarette like the original fidget spinner?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, most people don't do it because most people, when they have a cigarette in their hand, they want to light it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But Dice has got the ability to just hold on to the cigarette.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember when candy cigarettes were a toy for kids?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I had those.
		Oh, yeah.
		They were priming you.
unidentified		Totally.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And they would poof.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, sugar would come out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't remember that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, you go, and like powder sugar would come out.
unidentified		Really?
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Am I right, Jamie?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Am I making that up?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I remember them just being like a candy that you used to do.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Or was that just the cocaine micro parents put on it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was just a candy stick.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It was a candy chalk stick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Maybe there was a different one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Maybe there's more than one kind of candy cigarette.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Couldn't you, there was like gummy cigars, I remember, and then the candy cigarettes.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That must have been them just trying to get you addicted to just like the motion of it or like participate with your parents or something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was just a way to sell candy, but probably also engineered by the tobacco companies.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was back when they were lying about cigarettes being addictive too and causing cancer.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Well, they used to prescribe it to pregnant women, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They used to prescribe it for kids with asthma.
		Yeah.
		You need to strengthen those lungs, that fella.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And this is my favorite thing.
		Did they know?
		They already knew.
unidentified		Yeah, they already knew.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		They already knew.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Everybody had to know.
		You smoke cigarettes for a while.
		You start coughing up black shit.
		You feel terrible.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		According to the internet, this pack did have some sort of would-blow smoke, according to this person on Facebook.
unidentified		Whoa.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I didn't remember a play lighter or a lighter battery.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A battery.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what that is.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Smoke that would suck on this battery.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		As kids, we would suck on actual batteries.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We didn't want to come.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Remember when you lick them?
unidentified		Dude, we would just try to like square ones.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the nine volts.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We'd be in school, just like, lick it, like, like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we would lick it just to get a jolt in your tongue.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It is wild.
		Like, yes, the phones are obviously very bad for kids, but when you think about the stuff we did as kids, I was just like, I would just hang out with a light socket for like two hours.
		It's all I needed.
		A paperclip, light socket.
		Like, it's a merry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Light socket.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Or like a, yeah, the electric socket?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Electric socket.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You would go into an electric socket with a paperclip?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Did no one else do this?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's really bad.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Did you inhale glue or no?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I sniffed glue.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Rubber cement?
unidentified		Yeah, okay, yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I used to love making models.
		I used to make like Godzilla models.
		You know, those models?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You had rubber cement glue.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Remember those?
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You would, and Elmer's too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Peel it off your skin.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We just put it on our skin and just peel it off.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Just like a leprosy fetish or something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, the rubber cement glue was a big one, though.
		A lot of people sniffed glue.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We used to have a glue gun.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		My mom had a glue gun.
unidentified		For what?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like a hot glue gun to crafts, arts, crafts.
unidentified		Okay.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Kill men.
		I don't know.
		When you look back at shit, your parents did.
		You're like, what was that?
unidentified		What were you interested in?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Why did she have powdered gold and put it in coffee of the men she was dating?
		What was that?
		But like a glue gun.
		Like there was just so much dangerous shit growing up.
		When I think about my injuries as a kid, I'm like, yeah, I got burned on the glue gun.
		Everyone's like, huh?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they weren't looking out for kids back then.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, when did they start worrying about dangerous toys?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I mean, after the 50th lawn dart, you know, aorta puncture.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I remember lawn darts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Those are crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You're just throwing like...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a fucking weapon.
		And they were heavy.
		If they hit you in the head, you would die.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Dude, it was just like tetanus.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right in the heart.
		Let's look this up.
		How many people do you think have died from lawn?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Lawn darts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It has to be.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Way more than is reported, for sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm just putting this here, so I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It has to be dozens.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And seesaws.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You remember seesaws?
		No seatbelt, no, just plywood with a handle.
		But we would also, it's such a testament to our nature because we would make it even more dangerous.
		Like, remember, like, you'd be on the seesaw.
		Like, if you were up, I would like jump off it to watch the kid.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just to watch the kid fucking plummet to the earth.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So sadistic.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Just careen to the light.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, what is our sponsor, Perplexity, said?
		Pointed metal lawn darts were officially linked to three child deaths in the United States before they were banned.
		Just three?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Definitely more than that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Officially linked.
		From 78 to 86, approximately 6,100 to 6,700 people were treated in U.S. emergency rooms for lawn dart injuries, most of them children.
		Found lawn dart injuries led to a 4% case fatality rate in its patient sample with many severe head and eye injuries, which helped justify the eventual ban.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So only a couple, but mostly children.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I would like to know the story of the adults.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, people hit people with shovels.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I guess it was because lawn darts are a toy that they had a banned it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there was a lot of that.
		Remember, what are the pogo sticks?
		I mean, those were so dangerous when you think about it.
		They were just like, they were just like, all we still have those, though.
		Pogo sticks.
		Those were hard to do.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		They were the most dangerous toys for kids.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Trampolines.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Remember the ones with the metal coils?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, did you ever see the Atomic Energy Lab in the 1950s?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it actually had legitimate radioactive material.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I love that they were like, you know what, guys, child labor.
		This is inhumane.
		This is wrong.
		Come.
unidentified		Go.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Play with some toys.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Here's a radioactive uranium bomb.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, didn't Michio Kaku make some sort of a reactor in his basement or his backyard or something like that when he was a child?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		When he was in high school, I think.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Legend.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's like a legitimate scientist.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, when he was a child, he made a fucking nuclear reactor in his backyard.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I went to get Nyquil or Sudafed the other day, and they made me show my ID.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, because you can make meth with it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right, right.
unidentified		Sick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Meanwhile, you can get a prescription for Adderall.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You just say you have ADHD.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I don't even think you have to do that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You just have to be like, I'm bored.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm neurodivergent.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I mean, it's all self-diagnosed.
		I can't concentrate.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Are we going to look back the way that we look at like, you know, the Nazis and go, like, they were on meth?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Are we going to look back in like 20 years and be like, everyone was on meth?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, everyone's on Adderall.
		That's for damn sure.
		I mean, the amount of journalists that are on Adderall is off the charts.
		A friend of mine was telling me, like, all of his colleagues take Adderall.
		Help them work.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because they have so many projects that they're doing that require intense fucking research and they're Googling, saying ChatGPT, please write my article for me.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Did you see?
		I think it was in New York Times where someone left in.
		Jamie, do you remember the prompt that ends the, you know, what it spits out on ChatGPT to prove that they had just copy and pasted it?
		Like wild.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, there's a lot of that.
		There's a lot of shitty people in every walk of life.
		There's bad doctors, bad plumbers, bad journalists, but a lot of them are on Adderall.
		A lot of them are on speed.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's just that there's so much adrenaline out there to get.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		There's so many natural ways, I feel like, to get that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I don't think it covers it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think if you really want to sit in front of that fucking computer and bang out words, it seems like Adderall is the way to go.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But if you really do have ADD or whatever this is, I'm the first to say, what are all these diagnoses?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But because I was prescribed five milligrams slow release adderall to sleep.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		To sleep.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		If you actually have it, it calms you down.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't amp you up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
unidentified		What is it?
unidentified		ADHD?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		The inability to focus or the busy brain.
		Dude, I look, I just, I think a lot of our superpowers are being dull.
		A lot of people with superpowers are being dulled by pharma and we're being pathologized for actually kind of extreme strengths, you know, in a lot of ways.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So there's a lot of like legitimate people that are arguing that about ADHD.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Okay, good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm not like a legitimate psychologist, neuroscientists.
		It's what it is, is you can't concentrate on things you're not interested in, but you can concentrate on things you're interested in like heavily.
		Like people that are that supposedly have ADHD, they could play video games for fucking 10 hours a day.
unidentified		That's right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, how come?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because it's exciting.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they can't sit in a classroom and watch some pedophile lecture them on fake history while they're getting hemorrhoids in some like chair with like shitty lighting above them.
		I mean, it's like, yeah, of course kids are bored.
		Of course they can't sit still.
unidentified		Exactly.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You know, well, it was, I was reading about how Finland, they don't teach their kids to read until they're like seven because it's better to have them develop their ability to focus first on the things they want to do.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So by the time they do learn to read, they actually, you know, can focus.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like a terrible idea.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're going to be so far behind my kids.
unidentified		Well, yeah.
unidentified		I mean, look, kids in America learn how to read when they're little babies.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		If at all.
		If at all.
		Like, I mean, yeah, that's the other thing.
		When it's like, don't teach kids to read.
		It's like, by that time, is Nerling just going to learn to read for them?
		Who knows?
		It's interesting, like, having a kid.
		Now, I'm like, what do I, what world do I prepare them for?
		Do I even teach them Mandarin or is that just going to be like, remember when you two just put a song on our phone?
		It was so weird.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that was Apple's idea.
		And, you know, I talked to Bono about that.
		It was devastating for them because all of a sudden everyone hated you too.
		They used to love you too.
		They had so many hits.
		They're so good.
		And then all of a sudden, fuck you.
		Why are you on my phone?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that interesting the human nature of I love something unless you force it on me?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, it's just people are always looking for a reason to complain.
		And if you have this song on your phone right away, like, hey, fuck these guys.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But also, I want to hunt.
		Let me find it.
		Let me feel like I discovered something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think they just thought it would be a great way to promote this new album.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they just really didn't understand human nature.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's also, yeah, it used to be like, if you saw five billboards for something, you're like, I got to see that movie.
		Now you see like five ads for it and you're like, why are you trying so hard?
		Like, if it's good, I'll hear about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I try to tell it to my friends.
		Like, do not get overexposed.
		Like, there's a reason.
		I mean, I don't just say no to everything because I'm not interested in doing anything more.
		But it's also because I'm clearly overexposed.
		And you got to know when you're overexposed.
		But I have friends that like, they'll do every fucking interview that anybody asks.
		They'll do every project that comes up.
		They never have any time.
		Like, I got to slow down.
		Yeah, you got to slow down.
		Like, why are you doing all this shit?
		You're already wealthy.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why are you doing this?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Be a little mysterious.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Live a fucking life.
		Live a life on top of what you're doing.
		Live an actual life.
		Don't wait until you're 60 and go, what did I do?
unidentified		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Even if it's for if you need to justify it through workaholic purposes, like it took me so long to get out of my workaholism.
		The first time I had to do it by justifying it by going, I'll be better at my work if I have a life.
		Like for art to imitate life, you have to have a life.
		That's how I'm going to go get stories.
		That's how I'm going to go.
		I think especially as a comic now, there's a lot of funny people out there.
		I think if we've learned anything from memes and stuff, you're like, I don't, this guy just works at Best Buy and who made this meme?
		This is hilarious, you know?
		I think in the beginning, a lot of it was like stolen from comics.
		Remember like that fat Jewish hidden.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Whatever happened to that guy?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		There was another one too.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But he was stealing memes or he was stealing jokes and turning them into memes.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		There was a couple where you would go like, that's a Mitch Hepberg joke.
		Like, that's definitely a Steven Wright joke or Dimitri or something, but like Zach Alfanakis.
		Or it would be lesser-known comics.
		You know, like they'd go to a lesser-known comic feed, like people that wrote for Fallon or Leno, who'd, you know, showcase night of the store.
		Or like get their tweets.
		You can just pull their tweets and change them a little bit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Whatever happened to that guy because he was hated.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Boy, when he started getting exposed, he was hated, and then he just kind of vanished.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		There was another one, too.
		And I don't remember the name of it.
		That was doing the same exact thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But the fat Jewish guy almost seemed like he was like a corporate created entity because the crazy hair, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That weird fucking bun.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He was like a slob.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But he had like a wine.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		He sold it to Anizer Bush for millions of dollars.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how much.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What did he sell?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		A rose.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is rosé?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It's a type of wine, but that's what the brand was called.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, no, no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know what Rose was.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That's what the brand was called too.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		My heart cannot take Rose.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		He made a Rose called Rose.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Who fucks Rose?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know Rose, the wine.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		He's called Babe.
		I see that now.
		Rose company called Babe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so he sold his wine and then he just like, I'm out.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		For millions.
		And yeah, it says he's about to open a bank.
		That's what this article says.
unidentified		Where do I sign up?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It must be hilarious if he's opening up a bank.
		Definitely didn't steal those jokes.
		Yeah.
		Most really hilarious people want to open a fucking bank.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I love that he's just like, I'm Jewish.
		What am I good at?
		Just open a bank.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's not even Jewish.
unidentified		Exactly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Baptist or something.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Jews are like, we're not fat.
		What is it?
		Like, get your shit together.
		But also, yeah, that was so like for a second there.
		I was like, Joe, there's a chance he doesn't know what Rose is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, I know what that is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, like, I just thought it was a company.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's what like the Rainy Street Killer gives his victims before pushing them off.
		Dude, your boy Brandon over here, I was like, what's up with the Rainy Street Killer?
		I always want the updates on the Austin serial killer who's pushing gay dudes up bridges.
		And he said, he's like, I think it's tech, tech guys.
		They come down from San Francisco doing South by Southwest, and he strikes when it's like a tech conference.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And he doesn't live here, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're trying to pretend that it's not really a serial killer.
		The cops want to say it's not really a serial killer.
		And I'm like, how many guys have to drown before you start getting nervous?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So they're only gay that these guys are.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a gay neighborhood.
		That's the thing.
		Not all of Rainy Street, but there's a lot of like gay bars and gay spots on Rainy Street.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		How do the cops know the victims are gay?
		They just like their assholes.
		They're like, I fucked his, I fucked the corpse's asshole.
		He's gay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They bring a dilator.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You know, I've seen that guy in Grindr.
		He is gay.
		It reminds me of the Nazi.
		It's been 10 minutes and I brought up Nazis twice.
		The Nazis also killed gay people.
		And like, I'm obsessed with how there were Nazis that had to find out who was gay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So did Christians.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's in the Bible.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		People are like, I just fuck these guys.
		They are gay.
		Let's get them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In the old days in the Bible, if a man layeth with another man, you're supposed to be put to death.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That means like someone signed up to be like, I'll do it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'll investigate who's gay around here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, the thing is, though, they were all gay.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the crazy thing.
		Like, if you go back in history, guys were fucking each other all the time.
		The Spartans did it.
		They had a philosophy that you would defend your lover more because if you were fighting alongside a man that you loved, you would defend him more.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Was it love?
		Is that what love is?
		I'm still trying to figure it out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's got their own definition for that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, what is it?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Love is mysterious.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's wild.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I always am like, what are the things we're doing now that we're going to look back in 50 years and be like, remember in 2006 when they were doing that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Trans surgeries?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		100%, especially on children.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Also having phones 24-7.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what I mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		100%.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Phones will be like cigarettes.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We'll be like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, no, it'll be in your body by then.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It'll be fun.
		They'll be laughing.
		Remember, you used to have to carry your phone around?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Back in my day.
unidentified		Right, right, right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You could leave your phone at a restaurant.
unidentified		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Remember when you couldn't just print from your mouth?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Remember when you could find a phone and just make calls from it because there was no passwords?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you found someone's flip phone, you just open that bitch up and start calling people.
unidentified		Dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		You'd have to shut your phone off.
		You'd have to go to the Verizon store and go, hey, shut my fucking phone off.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And by then, it was just calling China.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was the other thing.
		You'd have roaming charges.
		Do you remember those?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Also, remember when you lost your phone and that was it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Now I can find my phone within my own house.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It'll tell me what room it's in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, not only that, if I don't find my phone, I could just go to the Apple store and my phone is in the cloud.
		And then instantaneously, I get a new phone that's the same phone as my old phone with all my messages, all my notes, which is even more.
		My notes are more important than my messages because I keep so many material ideas.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So you back them up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
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		Yeah, that is, I do, not only do I back them up, but I use other apps as well.
		I use Evernote, I back them up.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		I like Evernote and Elephant was one I was using for a while.
		It's like same thing.
		Like helps organize because you can also search by keyword.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You know, because sometimes, like, I've, I've, look, mombrain, you know, is real, but I think it's kind of good.
		I think it's like a software update.
		It's like deleting shit I didn't need to be remembering anyway.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a nice way of coping.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You know, like my hippocampus was just full of so I actually in some ways feel like you might be smarter if you forget half the shit you know because half the shit we learned has been debunked anyway.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like half of like science and history like is not even so me unknowing it might even make me smarter.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like Andrew Huberman was having a conversation with a professor at Stanford and he said, what percentage of what's in medical journals and what's taught in school is no longer applicable?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He said at least 50%.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Unbelievable.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		At least 50% of the stuff that they were telling people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like look, they just turned the food pyramid upside down.
unidentified		Crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		The food pyramid, not only did it used to just be like bran muffins, it was just like bare claw.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like what the fuck?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you need spaghetti.
		That's number one.
		Spaghetti O's at the base.
unidentified		So crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Grab the LD slightly above that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And remember they just had a fish with like eyeballs?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		like that's actually probably a good one now but um but at the top you know now like the littlest amount of stuff you're supposed to get is grains and you're supposed to get meat and eggs at the bottom which was always i mean look there was a study that was like widely criticized fairly recently that labeled fruit loops as being healthier than ground beef But who sponsored that stuff?
		That's the thing about all these things.
		It's like, who are these people?
		And can I see them naked?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Take your fucking clothes off.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let me see what you look like.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's my same thing about quotes.
		You know how we're in this quote culture where you'll just like, and you probably don't have this in your algorithm, but it's like inspiring quotes.
		And I'm like, I need to know who said it.
		I need to know who said it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot of times it's fake.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You'll see quotes attributed to Einstein.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then I'll try to find out if it's real and it's not.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But it's just sort of like, it's like...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Slightly anti-Semitic quotes.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You know, you're like, hmm.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did Aristotle really say this?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
		The Stoics, yeah.
		Like, I don't know, man.
unidentified		But you weren't even Jews back then.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck is this guy talking about?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to unfollow Arisia Fear once and for all.
		But it said General Mills on it.
		It said GM on the side.
		When we were all looking at this pyramid, we knew that General Mills put this pyramid.
		And we didn't even think that there was a conflict of interest there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you know how the whole Kellogg's cereal thing came about?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		The Jerry Seinfeld movie?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Kellogg's.
		Do you know why he decided to make these bland cereals?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Why?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		To keep people from masturbating.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Sick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was the whole idea behind it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		To give people bland food so that they wouldn't get aroused.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Is that what causes erections?
		Asking for a friend?
		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The only way.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Is that how to turn my guy on?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, spicy food.
		Put it on your pussy.
		Really?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Because I remember the Seinfeld thing was the post.
		That was Pop Charts.
		So this is how actual cereal was invented?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Cereal.
		Breakfast cereal.
		Kellogg's breakfast cereal.
		Specifically, he was like some sort of a weird Puritan.
		Hey, let's look it up because he had some really bizarre ideas.
		But the primary idea was that if you feed kids bland food, it would stop them from being horny.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Kids.
unidentified		Kids.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Do kids get horny?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like 13, 14?
unidentified		Okay, okay.
		Okay, got it, I got it.
		Teens.
		Teenships.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, as soon as the hormones start going.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure, sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I remember being like, where is all this coming from?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, you're all of a sudden horny, like where you were never horny, and then all of a sudden you're 12 and it starts coming on like a storm.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then you're 13.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're like, what the fuck?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And all your female teachers want to fuck you.
unidentified		It's better than if you live in Florida.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		They're all just letting you motorboat them between periods.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think you made that wrong.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is.
		Once you have a kid, like, it really is.
		I feel so cliche about the ways you change once you have a kid.
		Everyone warns you and you're like, okay, okay.
		I mean, you really look at every authority figure around kids differently.
		Every teacher, every coach.
		You're just like, what are you in this for?
		You're not in it for the money.
		You're getting paid nothing.
		You don't have kids to go to school.
		Like, what are you up to, dude?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Indoctrinating kids.
		Here it is.
		Brand flakes.
		No, Kellogg's brand flakes were not created to stop kids from getting horny.
		But the broader Kellogg's cereal story is tied to some very weird anti-sex ideas from the 19th and 20th century.
		Kellogg's brand flakes were introduced in 1915 as a high-fiber breakfast cereal market as a health food, aid, digest, and promote better for you breakfasts.
		Where the sex myth comes from.
		John Harvey Kellogg, a physician and Seventh-day Adventist, there it is, did believe that bland, plain diets, especially cereal and nuts, could help reduce sexual desire and masturbation.
		And he pushed those ideas at his sanitarium.
		So what the fuck is the, no, it's a myth.
		It's not a myth.
		This is his idea.
		He believed it and he sold that stuff.
		How can they say that's a myth?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Can you imagine how hard the publicists at Kellogg's are working to make sure that's not a myth?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's why it's listed saying that it's a myth.
		That's the only reason why perplexity is getting confused because there's a bunch of propaganda saying it's not.
		All you have to do is look at the first thing.
		John Harvey Kellogg believed that plain bland diets could help reduce sexual desire and masturbation.
		And he sold plain bland food.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And back then, cereal was pretty much just for kids.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You can already assume that it's going to be targeted at kids.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		These beliefs are most closely associated with early flake cereals like cornflakes and his general biological living health philosophy, not with bran flakes.
		Whatever.
		So how true is the rumor?
		It is fair to say that some of Kellogg's early cereal experiments were influenced by his belief that plain foods could encourage sexual restraint.
		So it is a good rumor.
		So why are they saying that it's not that it's a myth?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I typed in bran instead of cornflakes and it's just oh bran.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's it was it was the bland bland.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you think I said bran?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I mean I typed in bran because I meant bland.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But bran is like a little bit more flavorful.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I used to really like bran cereals.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I love raisin bran.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		It's delicious.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Raisin bran is the bomb digging.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's so filling.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's so good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Especially frosted raisin bran with the sugar.
		And we would pour sugar on it too.
		We always thought sugar just gave you cavities.
		Nobody thought it was killing you.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So we'd take scoops of sugar and just throw it on those fucking raisin bran bars.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Frosted flakes was my shit.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I was a big Captain Crunch man myself.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Peanut butter.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Captain.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Captain.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Captain Crunch.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Captain Crunch.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We used to mix white trash till I die, Applejacks with cinnamon toast crunch.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, those are good ones.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Now what, RFK?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Now what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you better let me keep having those.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, I don't think you should ban those, man.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I think it's important to have restraint and to have the option to do something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why not have a little fucking discipline?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Every day.
unidentified		That's it.
		That's it.
		Yeah.
		That's it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How about give me the fruit loops with the dye?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I want to look at pretty colors.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I want my shit to be neon.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to get cancer if I eat one bowl.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, shut up.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's the other thing.
		It's like the stress is the worst for us.
		So the stress about sugar eating sugar is worse than just eating it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I was just talking to a friend who has suffered multiple heart attacks from stress.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		His doctor says there's nothing wrong with his arteries.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And he's gotten these heart attacks because literally his body constricts.
		He's in like a very serious situation.
		And his body constricts so heavily that his arteries fucking close up and he has heart attacks.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So what is the difference between, because I'm all about good stress on your body, like exposing yourself to good stress and then bad stress.
		Your body knows the difference, right?
		Bad stress is going to be like the cortisol and then good stress.
		That's like adrenaline, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm hoping you're going to cut me off.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Please cut me off.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Hermetic effect.
		So the hermetic effect is like there's an argument with certain foods, right?
		There's an argument against certain foods, like that they have phytochemicals in them.
		So what they have is like an actual toxin that discourages predation, right?
		But some of that is actually has a hermetic effect and it's actually good for you.
		Like, what's a good one?
		Broccoli sprouts.
		You know, what does that have?
		Phosphorophane?
unidentified		What is it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is the word?
unidentified		I can't remember the beneficial something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, phonosynthesis is how they convert sunlight into food.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But like when you're doing good stress, like exercise and sulfuraphane?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that what it is?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think you just said it as I was.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I think that's the word.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think it's sulfuraphane.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Is that it right there on the screen?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Sulfuraphane.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sulfuraphane.
		A plant compound formed when you chew or chop broccoli sprouts, which activates an enzyme that converts a precursor called glucoraphanin into sulfuraphane.
		Broccoli sprouts have far higher levels of glucorafanin glucorafanin in mature than mature broccoli, which is why they are such a concentrated source of sulfuraphane.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So you're eating the plant stress.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's well, plants do release chemicals.
		You want to hear a crazy one?
		This is really nuts.
		Plants are intelligent in some sort of a weird way.
		And one of the things they found is that if, like, say if a giraffe is eating certain bushes and they're eating them upwind, and so the wind comes down and the other plants recognize that they're being consumed, and so they change their chemical profile to make them disgusting.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It starts tasting bad.
		Horses, same thing.
		Horses will all be grazing in one place and then they'll just pivot out of nowhere and you're like, what's going on?
		And they'll move to different grass.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's like the grass realizes that it's happening.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh my God, it's a grass apocalypse.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And like lets off some kind of acid or something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Nuts?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Wild.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So this is the argument against consuming plants that all the carnivore people use is that there's these chemicals.
		Like find out what the chemicals they talk about.
		What are the chemicals that carnivore diet people think are dangerous from plants?
		The idea is that plants can't defend themselves.
		They're stationary.
		And so what they do is they release things that make them disgusting.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Got it.
		It makes sense.
		It is like, you know, after having, being pregnant, I kind of just surrendered to being like, what if I just ate what I craved?
		Like, let me just let my body wisdom or whatever, like kind of go, you know, and it was sourdough bread, not regular bread, just sourdough, which I wonder if that's allowed on the pyramid.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a lot better for you.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Sourdough bread, eggs, and meat, no salad.
		Like it made me like nauseous to like even think about salad.
		But maybe that was just my blood type or whatever it was.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		My wife was really into frozen pizza rolls, those little disgusting things.
		I would buy them for her.
		I'm like, are you shit?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That is a Texas bitch, like through and through.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Carnivore diet advocates often argue that many common plant compounds are toxic or anti-nutrients that harm digestion hormones and or nutrient absorption.
		Carnivore influence usually group these under umbrella.
		Anti-nutrients or plant defense chemicals.
		Oxalates is one for sure.
		Oxalates is terrible for you.
		But the way to get around that is cooking them.
		So like this is like I used to, I used to always drink kale smoothies.
		I used to take kale and throw it in there with garlic and ginger and drink a smoothie every day.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Then you left LA.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean I felt fine doing it.
		I never got kidney stones or anything like that.
		But then I started reading about oxalates and then I had a bunch of people on that told me that you can get kidney stones.
		And I did actually get my blood work done and it was high in oxalates.
		But also that's from almonds.
		I eat a lot of, I used to eat a lot of almonds.
		Lectins, grains, beans, nuts, there it is, promote leaky gut, autoimmunity, and general gut irritation.
		Phytates, what is that?
		Phytic acid, grains, legumes, and nuts, criticized for binding materials and reducing their absorption, tannins or other polyphenols described by some meat advocates as additional plant defenses that can inhibit nutrient absorption or act as pro-oxidants.
		But one of the things that I've heard from people that are pretty knowledgeable is that the issue might not be the actual plants itself.
		It might be pesticides.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's the other thing.
		They say the worst thing you can eat at a restaurant anywhere is salads because it's just covered in pesticides.
		Like I am washing my fruit and vegetables more than I wash my own body.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		See if this is true because I read this, that 100% of all California wines tested positive for glyphosate.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And out in Malibu, Raytheon, because there was a Raytheon plant.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And come, actually.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Rocket dying.
unidentified		Yeah, I guess.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just to be in my neighborhood.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Wild.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if I got juiced up.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Remember when I went out and before I had a kid and I was just fighting people over rescuing giraffes?
		I had an instinct to mother and I was just mothering everything except an actual baby, including giraffes.
		And the wine that was made up there at that place, Malibu Safari, I tested positive for Raytheon and people were getting sick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		For Raytheon?
		How do you test positive for Raytheon?
		Like the Raytheon.
		Okay, they tested 10.
		And a 2016 investigation by ABC7 News Beyond Pesticides reported that 10 out of 10 California wines tested positive for glyphosate.
		Whoa.
		That's nuts.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm obsessed with these sort of health and wellness sort of myths.
		And where do they like wine's good?
		Red wine's good for you.
		Like what alcoholic made that popular?
		Remember, it's like it's got resveratrol.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's this.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's like the amount you would need to get the amount of resveratrol that would make a difference is would kill your liver anyway.
		But like dark chocolate's good for you.
		Like these things we just laugh at.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think dark chocolate is good for you though.
unidentified		Is it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I think that's legit.
		I don't think wine is necessarily bad for you.
		I think alcohol is bad for you.
		But I think it also loosens you up and makes you happy, which is better for you than being sad, depending on where you are, right?
		So if you were with a group of people, like you and I and a bunch of friends went out to dinner, we all had wine, we're laughing our asses off, that would probably be really good for you.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And it removes a little bit of the ability to, and that was always my thing.
		Like I don't, I'm three, three and a half years off pretty much anything.
		I mean, I was pregnant.
unidentified		I have a kid.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, you know, I got to be focused.
		Like a toddler is just like suicidal.
		Like, I'm, you know.
		But, you know, I think with at least I'll just speak for myself, my brain, a glass of wine, I'm just able to be present without going, is this a good joke?
		Which I write about.
		It just takes off that like sort of like interior anthropologist narrative that is like, I always have to be categorizing things and filing things as jokes or cross-referencing things and you know, filing things away for future stand-up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And I think that's the thing, right?
		It's because you always need new jokes.
		It's like you're always farming.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And when you hear something that's like, oh, that'd be such a good premise, it's like, oh, you know, sometimes I'll just like do what you do.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'll put it in notes to just file it away just so that I'm not thinking about it so much.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that's the only thing that keeps me sane.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because if I don't do that, if I don't, it's going to get away from me.
unidentified		Same.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I have to.
		At least my family knows.
		Like sometimes I'll jump up from the dinner table and I have to run away because I know it's slippery.
		I'm like, this idea is slippery.
		I'll be right back.
		I got an idea.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Let me just write it down.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Let me just write it down.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I have to write it down and I come back and I don't tell them the idea because it's usually they're like, what?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Trust me, it's going to sound bad now.
unidentified		No.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Jews, Jews do run the meat.
		Just let me flesh it out.
		This idea about Jews and blacks.
		But yeah, as long as I'm able to write it down, then I can be present.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Then you know you saved it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Neil Brennan used to say that his joke book was basically like a net for catching ideas.
unidentified		Love it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I have one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Great idea.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Great premise.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Promise.
		I have a joke.
		I'll write it down in my notebook, but I'll, of course, leave it somewhere and it just looks like my suicide note.
		It's just like words.
		It's just like Kegel's, you know, episiotomy.
		Like it's just crazy words.
		But, and that's the other thing that I think having a kid gave me that I didn't even know was possible, which is what I thought like weed or, you know, a glass of wine or whatever before was I've always just been trying to figure out how to get present, like be in the present moment, you know?
		Which, by the way, is there a biological basis for being in the present moment?
		Probably it's probably, you know, was a detriment back in the day.
		You wanted to be like two stabs ahead, or this is what just happened.
		And like eating that berry was bad.
		Like being in the present moment probably got you killed back then.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what they think ADHD is about.
		It's about being a persistent hunter.
		We have a problem with the software that we're running and perhaps maybe the computer.
		So the last few episodes.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Jamie, please cut my audio.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Reddit will love this episode.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They don't love it anymore.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Cut me out of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a bunch of people I'd like to see naked.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		All of you negative Reddit commenters, like you guys need to go outside.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Touch grass, babes.
		I look at those guys and I'm always just guys, girls, whoever are.
		Like, I meant I got one right up, but like, they're non-binary.
unidentified		All of them.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I always think, like, if we didn't get to do what we do, would we be doing that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		100%.
		I would.
		I would say that, like, when people are really mean to celebrities online in comments, I'm like, I would do that.
		1,000 one million percent.
		If I was 16 years old and I had a fucking Twitter account, and they have a plane.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, fuck you.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Just like, hey, asshole.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, yeah.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'd be going after everybody.
		I would 100%.
		That was all, especially if I get them to respond.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'd be like, woo-wee, I got him on the hook.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And then, like, Kimmel would like read negative comments on his show.
		Like, you can get on a show.
		Which is, by the way, what's happening with like crowd work.
		People come to shows now trying to get in a crowd work video.
		Just heckling it, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Especially if someone is known for responding to hecklers.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		The first four rows are people that are like in hair and makeup.
		They have like hats on, like, their tips are out.
		Like, they're ready with.
		They're like, hey, bitch.
		And I'm like, I'm not filming this show, guys.
unidentified		Sorry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People just want to be a part of something.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to know where I'm from?
		It's like, I don't.
		I don't care.
		I'm in Austin.
		I know you live.
		I don't give a shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the weird thing about social media and the internet in general is that everyone has a voice now, which is great.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it's also terrible.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's both things.
		It's great because some people emerge from that voice.
		Just like we were talking about memes.
		Some of the hardest laughs that I get during the day are these memes that anonymous people have created and someone sends me.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Same.
unidentified		And I'm like, same.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then I send them to people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, who the fuck made it?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Can we pause one second again?
		It's now not recording the audio, even though we can hear everything.
		It just stopped all of a sudden.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did it record any of what we just said?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because that was fucking good.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it is still going.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It is still going.
unidentified		It's still not fucked up.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to trust it.
		It's just not visually showing up.
		We'll trust it.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Having a conversation about being in the present moment.
unidentified		No, like, wait, you didn't record that.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Good, I was being so present.
		Damn it.
		I have to.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think, you know, we're in this weird transitionary period where we have a new technology and that allows everyone to have a voice.
		And I think overall, it's very good because you have more voices.
		And it's just people have to discern what's a valuable voice and what's not.
		And, you know, that's where I tell people, don't read the fucking comments.
		It's not good for you because you're getting too many non-valuable voices.
		And if you've done a good job of curating your environment and curating your friend group, you've eliminated all these people that are really shitty and bitter and jealous and nasty.
		And also, like, have no ability to look at themselves.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But also, like, to all my, like, I was just on did Norman's podcast with Sam Murrell and they were talking about the comments.
		And I was like, guys, like, I've said worse things to you than any of these comments.
		Like, more comics.
		We all sit around and are so much meaner to each other.
unidentified		Oh, cool.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you're meaner about other comics.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're not there.
unidentified		Oh, God.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're the worst shit ever.
unidentified		Totally.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's just sort of like, nothing in this comment section is worse than what Tony Hinchliff just said to me on the phone.
unidentified		I know we're conversation.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know you laughed.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I just talked to Tim Dylan for an hour.
		Like, I have no self-esteem left.
		Like, this is like a warm hug.
		Like, my comment section is where I go for compliments at this point.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes I forget that when I'm hanging out with Normies, you know, and I'll just drop a bomb.
		Look at their face like, what the fuck did you say?
		I'm like, I thought we were talking shit.
unidentified		No, I don't.
		No, I did that yesterday.
		I was checking into the hotel and we're in Texas.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		My mom's from Texas, whatever.
		And this dude that works there was wearing like cowboy boots, like solid cowboy boots.
		And I was like, oh, sick cowboy boots.
		Like, they're just high heels for men, but like, cool that you guys call them, like, cowboy boots.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And he was just like, and I was like, oh, you, you're going to fight me.
		Like, this is not.
		I can say that to like Tony Hingecliffe because I'm always like, yeah, you moved to Texas so that you could wear heels.
unidentified		Like, so they crazy wearing cowboy boots all the time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He was going through a period of time where he's wearing nothing but cowboy hats and cowboy boots on stage.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Dude, and then like a Gucci, like, like track suit.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, name a person that knew less about what to do with their money.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You tell me what he's doing now.
		He's wearing vests.
		He wears vests all the time.
		It's a thousand degrees of vest.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Bulletproof vest after the he was at the Trump rally.
		Smart.
		So the Puerto Ricans have guns, homie.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The Puerto Ricans love him.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they do.
unidentified		They love him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If there's any group of people that are great at talking shit, it's Puerto Ricans.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's like Jennifer Lopez cut to her like crying because she's like, what are jokes?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, I love.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She doesn't count.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So I, have you made your will?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Okay.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So I'm making my will, which as soon as you have a kid, they're like, make a will or else your craziest family member is going to like get your son, you know?
		And I have him.
		And I, am I allowed to make a fun?
		Like, I want to make like a funny will.
		Like, I want to give Brian Holtzman like a million dollars just to see what he'll do.
		Just to look down from heaven and just see him with like how do you buy suspenders or something?
		Just calf implants.
		Like just like seeing what Tony did with his money, like watching all these comics.
		Like Bobby Lee, he just like shows up in like women's shoes.
		Like he'll just be in like, you know, those like golden goose sneakers.
		They're like $700.
		They're bedazzled.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He wears bedazzled sneakers.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're like golden goose.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Do you know these shoes?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I have a pair of golden goose.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but they're like shimmery with like leper.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's weird because golden goose, they come out worn out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like you buy, I bought them in Aspen.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You buy them worn out and everybody was really into it.
		I'm like, they're already pre-worn.
		Like this is weird.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's like when you did like bought jeans with holes in them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like ahead of time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I never did that, by the way.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, that's not.
		That's a lie.
		I did it for a while and then I was like, what is wrong with you?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But I like holes in the knees because you can move around more.
		Like that's actually useful.
		I'll always cut holes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you need to buy like stretchy jeans.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		I did start buying stretchy jeans and this is actually the worst thing I've done since becoming a mom.
		You just become such a dork.
		Except your wife.
		Your wife is just like, she's like my hero.
		I'm like, how do you stay?
		Why are you so hot?
		Like you're my mom.
		You're like allowed to just look like Rachel Maddow, but you do this.
		Like I need to get back on the horse because I started buying sweatpants that look like jeans.
		And I'm just like, what am I doing?
		Like it's just.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a bunch of jeans like that that you can get now.
		What are those?
		Oh, they're called Perfect Jeans.
		Those are really good.
		I got a few pairs of those.
		I think that's what they're called, right?
		Perfect jeans?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like stretchy guys?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, those are great.
		Revtown.
		Revtown makes a great pair.
		They're great.
		Barbell, barbell jeans.
unidentified		They're nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're made for people with big thighs.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because my jeans wear out in the middle because my thighs are always rubbing together.
unidentified		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, like in the way you tear open.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And I need to be straight.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I need to, I can't wear something that I can't kick somebody in.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But also, fuck yes.
		Fuck.
		So good to be in Texas where the real men are.
		That's how they think.
		My fiancé's.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I was thinking like that always.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		All your whole life.
unidentified		It's so funny.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		My fiancé is like, he's just, you don't realize till you date a very straight guy that you've only dated gay guys.
		Like I always was like, oh, good, metrosexual.
		Like my dude, my favorite thing to do is ask him what he's thinking about.
		Not like when you're thinking about like hoping it's me or like our wedding or something, I'm just like fascinated.
		I'm on the edge of my seat.
		And it's usually like, if I could fight that guy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Or the Roman Empire.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		My God, dude.
		Just like jerking off, thinking about tigers tearing apart criminals.
		Like, what about the Roman Empire exactly?
		That's so crazy when you think about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, didn't, didn't species go extinct because of the Roman Empire.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Because of the Coliseum fights.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe that's true.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've never heard that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		When I did like a tour of it, they said that, but I'm sure they were just trying to.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're trying to juice you up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's find out.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Even if they did, how could they prove it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I guess it's well, they don't really.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of like speculation that's probably erroneous about why certain animals went extinct, including woolly mammoths.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Also, there's a lot of animals out there that maybe you guys can't find.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We don't know.
		Like, oh, okay.
		Not to bring up California, but have you seen this doomsday fish?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's a fish that only appears when an earthquake's about to happen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, great.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And they're coming up around Monterey in California.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's like, it's like a syringe with fins.
unidentified		Really?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You know, these like fish at the bottom, bottom of the ocean that we're going to be.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, and they're getting away from the bottom because they've got coming up to the surface or something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've never heard of this before.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But my brain also goes, like, maybe they've been around and you just haven't seen them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not like we have cameras down there talking about it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		At all times, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Coliseum animal fights did not clearly drive any species to global extinction, but they did help wipe out or severely reduce some regional populations and subspecies.
		Like what?
		Beast hunts killed animals on a huge scale.
		Ancient sources describe thousands of animals killed in single festivals and tens of thousands over imperial reigns.
		Modern historians argue that this sustained demand contributed to local or regional disappearances, especially when combined with hunting, habitat loss, and warfare.
		Well, that, like, just what they did in America with market hunting, they almost wiped out everything in America because no one had ice, right?
		So you had to get meat every day.
		So they wiped out almost all deer.
		They wiped out elk from elk used to be in all 50 states, and now they're only in a few.
		They wiped out almost all of them.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And this is fascinating to me.
		Just the Roman Coliseum thing, because I think that my brain always does, whenever it's like, can you believe people in the comments are trashing Sabrina Carp or whatever?
		It's like, yeah, people used to go watch, you know, people have their limbs torn apart by lions and sit there and like cheer and suggest they would yell out how to kill people like that.
		You know, they would go watch at the town square people get hanged.
		Like, this is right on time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They'd watch people have sword fights.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		This is the most humane version of publicly shaming people we've done thus far.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's just like, you suck.
unidentified		Like, that's like it just hurts your feelings.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it only hurts your feelings if you read it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But I also don't think anyone has only made a comment on Joe Rogan's or only on mine.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it's like just personal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's probably one schizophrenic person that just concentrates on you.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		I have many of those.
		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But there's most people are just.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But I don't think they're normal with everyone else.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And then, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the argument that some people have that I completely disagree with, that you should, it should be your name.
		Everyone should know who's posting that.
		And that you shouldn't be allowed to post anonymously.
		My problem with that is that eliminates all whistleblowing.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, good point.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, you're working at some defense contractor and you know they're doing something horrible or whatever.
		You're working for some oil company and you know they're doing something evil.
		No, you can't, you can't have completely anonymous.
		I mean, you can't have only like recognized accounts where you know the exact person who's posting things because sometimes you need to have anonymous sources.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But also, it's, you know, essentially, like I'm always interested in, you know, finding the like equanimous real-life version of something digital.
		So it's like negative things in the comment section.
		That's like being in a football game and someone being like, Tom Brady, you suck.
		Like, he obviously doesn't suck.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're wearing the same thing.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You're wearing a Patriots jersey.
		Like, you obviously love him.
		You're just like being an idiot.
		You know, it's kind of like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How about UFC fans?
		Some of them are the worst.
		They're like, he's a pussy.
unidentified		Is he?
		He fights for a lot of people.
		Yes, yes, yes, yes.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He fights in his underwear barefoot in a fucking cage for a living.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you're calling him a pussy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		People, I mean, and also think about what it would take for you to stop and leave a shitty comment.
		You would have to be in such a dark, dark place to like need to just throw a stray at someone.
		And like, I like to think of it as like a weird service.
		And maybe this is just me trying to like sublimate it into something positive because being a female comedian on the internet, it's like pretty wild.
		And it's like I signed up to make people happy or make people laugh or give people some kind of escape from their life.
		And if you hating me or saying some mean shit gives you like a hit of like, great.
		I don't think I came into comedy being like, everyone has to love me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like that's not possible.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People hate Chappelle.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's literally not possible.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		The people I know that take the biggest risks and that, you know, are polarizing.
		Like I think the most interesting comics are polarizing.
		So if everyone liked me, I'd probably be pretty boring.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And well, there's a few people that don't take risks that are hilarious that aren't polarizing at all, like Nate Bargaza.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Or Gaffigan, but Sebastian.
		But Gaffigan got really polarizing when he went political.
		A lot of people got mad at him for that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I think he was drunk.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, interesting.
unidentified		He did a pretty sure he was drunk.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He likes to throw him back.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Was he doing online, though?
		Wasn't he like doing online?
		Or was he doing it live?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he was on Twitter.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he was on Twitter.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		During the Trump.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I remember.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He went crazy and he lost like a giant chunk of fans.
		People turned on him.
		You know, he's the hot pockets guy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's like involved in politics.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's interesting when that kind of thing.
		I think that as a comic, like it's, you know, and you do something sort of different here, but I never, you know, to take a side just feels so weird.
		It just feels so bizarre because I think it's really our job to be able to defend the indefensible, just even as an exercise and to, you know, to be able to deeply believe that two things can be true at once.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think it's the opposite of what wokeys do with animals.
		So with wokeys, with animals, they're like, adopt, don't shop.
		I think with your ideas, you should shop around.
		Don't adopt.
		Don't adopt like all the ideas that the left has or all the ideas that the right has.
		Shop around.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Also, breeders are bad.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So rescue a dog from a breeder if you need to.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Well, some look, breeders are bad, right?
		Okay.
		I have the best fucking dog in the world, and he came from a breeder.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Some are good, some are bad.
		Some rescues are good.
		Some of the worst people on earth are animal rescue people.
		Some of the worst people on earth work in charities, you know?
		That's a fact.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you see the data about the LA fire money and where it went?
unidentified		Did you see the data of the whole?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		What was it?
		How many billion was supposed to be spent on homelessness removal?
		24.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's unaccounted for.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm not even mad.
		Just tell me where it is.
		How do you even hide that much money?
		How do you even hide it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I want to show you this.
		Did I ever send it to you, Jamie?
		I don't know.
		I know I saved it because it's so crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It was like there was a concert.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was like $100 million.
		But where it went is literally absolutely nuts.
		I'm going to find it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, and Jamie, did you find that doomsday fish?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I just want to make sure.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I saw an article about it from 20 couple years ago that said it shows up on a row.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Doomsday Fish?
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		There was one up in Monterey, they said, that came.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm obsessed with the fish that we don't know about.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I just sent it to you, Jamie.
		So the House Judiciary Committee released a report on the LA Fire Aid concert.
		Among the findings, FireAid was used.
		I mean, this is going to.
		I'm sorry.
		I don't know why I'm coughing.
		FireAid was used for activities such as voter participation initiatives, podcasts.
		They give $100,000 to podcasters.
		Approximately $550,000 in donations went to organizations involved in political.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's money laundering.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's just money laundering.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		$550,000 out of $100 million.
		$250,000 was directed towards programs beneficing undocumented immigrants.
		Look at this.
		$100,000 to podcasters.
		I want to know who the fuck the podcasters were that got $100,000.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what are you talking about?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, what does that mean?
		Like, did they prevent fires with that money?
		$500,000 was used to cover salaries, bonuses.
		Imagine you got a bonus because there was a fire.
		Consultant fees for nonprofits.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But if it's a nonprofit, why are you giving it money?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And why are you giving them bonuses?
		Half a million dollars.
		Okay.
		Many worthy nonprofits did receive grants that were used to support victims.
		This report provides lessons for the distribution of, or the disbursement rather, of any remaining fire aid funds.
		Go down lower because it can be a good thing.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's a good racket.
		Everyone I know that works with a charity has like two houses.
		Like, good for them because they don't have to pay taxes either.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's sorry, there's more where they laid all this stuff out.
		So this is Kevin Kiley, who is, what is his congressman from California.
		So he's outlining this because he tried to look it up.
		It's fucking crazy.
		But I mean, some of that is fucking criminal.
		This one drives me nuts.
		Organizations involved in political advocacy, half a fucking million dollars.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Why is anyone advocating for politics?
unidentified		Like, what does that even mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just stealing money.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's just money laundering.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's just stealing money.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Wait, fungus planting projects.
unidentified		What?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		To plant fungus.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fungus planting policy.
unidentified		What?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Fungus planting projects.
unidentified		They're growing weed.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're growing mushrooms.
unidentified		That's right.
		They're growing.
		The best way to get people from.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		This is what it is, dude.
		It's like literally like everyone that's pissed that their house caught on fire, take these mushrooms.
		And you will realize materialism doesn't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's all bullshit.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		It's part of the universe, man.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We're all connected.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, if someone else has a house, you have a house too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is the universe telling you to get the fuck out of here.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it is like a lot to process.
		I mean, there's a point where you're kind of like, my brain goes, like, when there's nothing you can do about it, you're like, what do I do?
		Like, do I just get mad?
		Do I just look away?
		Do I become the person that's retweeting shit and just being that person?
		Like, you know, the things we have to kind of just decide with our economy of bandwidth what to be outraged about.
		And maybe this is it.
		The idea is like, we'll throw so much at you that you'll just get exhausted.
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		I don't think it's a plan.
		I think it's just a function of the whole social media ecosystem.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But also they're like, we know we're going to get away with this.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, I just love it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But they're not because this guy, the congressman is looking it up.
		It's going to, they're definitely going to talk about it.
		It's going to be a problem for these people.
		It's going to be a problem during reelection, and it's supposed to be.
		They're monsters.
		These people are evil.
		They're really evil.
		Like, what they're doing is stealing money from people that decided they were going to donate money because they thought it was a worthy cause, and it wasn't a worthy cause.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And also, when those fires happened, the idea that it was like, donate, it's like, well, you were just in a fire zone too.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We pay enough taxes in California to not have to have charities to donate to fire victims.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what I mean?
		Charities are such a scam because it's like, well, no, this is where our taxes should be going to stuff.
		We shouldn't have to have these charities where people are donating money to help people.
		They don't have money either.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a scam.
		And when you find out where the money actually goes, that's when it becomes a scam when you find out that the vast amount.
		Like, if you have $100 million that gets donated to a legitimate charity, it's very likely that only 30% or less is going to the actual cause.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And that person doesn't pay taxes on top of that because the charity is a tax write-off.
		So my taxes aren't going to pay for that cause.
		And then you're not paying taxes anyway.
		And then I have to give you extra money.
		It's just like, it's just such an charity culture is just such a bizarre.
		Does every country have this charity culture?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Well, our charity culture is really weird because of U.S. aid.
		Because USAID, everybody thought of as like, oh, it's aid.
		We're giving aid to all these other countries.
		That's important.
		People are going to starve.
		And then you realize like, oh, no, it's not U.S. aid.
		It's a U.S. agency for international development.
		So a lot of it is about overthrowing foreign governments.
		A lot of it is about funding these NGOs that are supposedly nonprofit, but people extract the money out of them.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's a lot of money laundering.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A lot of it is money laundering.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Fascinating.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's so much.
		Mike Benz is the guy to follow on that.
		And Mike Benz is like, he's gone deep, deep into all this shit and uncovered an insane way.
		He said that U.S. aid is for things that are too dirty for the CIA.
		When it's too dirty for the CIA, they send it off to a non-government organization.
		That's an NGO.
		So an NGO can do things that the government can't do legally.
		So they'll go and use this money in a way that our government can't do it.
		But it's our government's money.
		So it's your tax dollars go to do things that the government's not allowed to do.
		And the government just does it that way through an NGO.
		And people profit massively.
		And money is just flowing around and no one knows where it goes.
		Like the $24 billion that went to the homeless problem in California where it only got worse.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I don't even get how you hide that much money.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I don't even get how you laundered and hide.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's like just shows you how crazy scams are in this country.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We're learning that out about the Somali.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, the Minnesota thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that's just one part of it.
		The Somali daycares in Minnesota is the tip of the iceberg.
		California is way bigger.
		So people are digging into the problems in California now.
		And they're saying, no, no, no.
		Whatever you thought the fraud was, there was a guy that was running a bunch of daycares.
		He had no in California.
		No one at his organization, no kids, pulled up in a fucking Rolls-Royce when they were investigating a Rolls-Royce.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Couldn't even just get Alexis.
unidentified		No.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		They can't just be cool.
		It's like Dane Cook's brother or whatever who stole from him, like pulled up in like a Bugatti.
		It's like you couldn't just.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did he really?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It was like something, I think, something crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like you couldn't have just got an Acura.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's when he found out that his brother was stealing from him?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I think it was like a car that pulled up.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I know what I paid.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know what car that sunk Dane Cook's brother.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		By the way, he got out of jail and the money's still missing.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Stop.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's a ton of money that they never recovered.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He might have hit it in a coffee.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		There's some real rich hookers in Pensacola, I'll tell you what.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He might have blown through all of it, but I'm pretty sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you'd have to ask Dane.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm pretty sure that a lot of the money was unrecovered.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He donated it to the LA fire victims.
		Yeah, it's like people that steal like that.
		Like, it's like, from what I understand, it's like kind of a gambling addiction to it.
		It's like, I got away with this.
		Like, you get this invincibility complex of like, now I can get away with this.
		And then you just get in over your head and you show up one day in a fucking, you know, Ferrari.
		And everyone's like, huh?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you ever see that documentary, The 7.5?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The 7.5 is all about the 75th precinct in New York and how corrupt it was.
		It's a really good documentary.
		I had the guy who was the main guy, Michael Dowd, who was a corrupt cop.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Love it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I had him on the podcast and he explained it.
		He said, the first day of, I mean, if you watch the documentary, first day working, they threw a guy out of building and killed him.
		And he was like, shut the fuck up.
		Like, you know, you know what you saw.
		Now you didn't see shit, right?
		And they're like, yeah, I didn't see shit.
		Like, they killed a guy on his first day on the job.
		And he's like, okay, this is, I guess, what we do.
		And so he was selling drugs, robbing drug dealers, and showed up at work with a Corvette.
		Brand new badass Corvette.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Take the Corvette under a blanket and just drive a Honda to work.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, how like you could have gotten away with this forever?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Get an old pickup truck, stupid.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I love that shit, dude.
unidentified		I fucking love it so much.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This guy shows up at his fucking daycare in a Rolls Royce.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It was like the Wild Wild Country guy.
		He could have got away with that forever, but it was like the 56, like, bedazzled Rolls-Royce.
		Everyone's like, I don't know, man.
		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he had a bunch of Rolls-Royce's.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But God told me I should have these.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, I don't know.
unidentified		But the people are retarded.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is one of the greatest things ever.
unidentified		Buy the people, for the people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And the pause.
unidentified		Dude.
		But the people are retarded.
		Tough titties.
		So it's for the retarded.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So look at this.
		42.1 million.
		This is the guy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He's trying to cover the car with his body.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Pull back and let's hear what he says in the beginning of this.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I mean, with all that money, maybe buy some Ozempic too, homie.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's eating good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm here with what he says.
unidentified		Ever since Nick Shirley has done his reporting in Minnesota, we have Iranian daycare centers in California.
		Over here we have 1412 South Crescent Heights Creative Children Academy.
		Nobody has come in or out of his facility in nine months.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Every window is just boarded up because no one in LA has kids.
unidentified		Look at this Rolls-Royce.
unidentified		This property gets where's the money jump sheet with?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		The way the door opens is set up.
unidentified		Just one facility.
		Where'd you get this car?
		I don't understand.
		How did you buy that property?
		Yeah, did you win the law?
		That's assault.
		Don't touch me.
		This looks fake.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It really does.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It looks fake as shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It looks fake as shit.
		This looks like completely staged.
		Just the way he walks up and grabs the car.
		When you saw people with cameras and you've got a convertible room.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He would turn around, I think.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You would just turn around.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just too convenient.
		There's no one there.
		Why is he there?
		That looks fake.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He's not wearing any brands.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's also, there's something, my mind registered his face when he started talking.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Wait, this is a guy?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		100%.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So it's fake.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So I just.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So that was like a staged reenactment or something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's horseshit.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		This is like when I repost videos where people have like seven fingers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just bad acting.
		I saw his face.
		I saw his face.
		This guy's a bad actor.
		This is like a Hallmark special.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Well, when he took off the golf hat, like douchebagger vance, like before to start his thing, that was.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just engagement.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Why are you wearing a suit?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Why are you wearing a suit?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Meanwhile, people are sending that to me like it's real.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There it is.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That thing?
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But it's basically.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They want it to be real.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, you get to a point with real and fake where you're just like, it might as well be.
		You know?
		It might as well be.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that guy, you could tell his face was fake.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's like, what?
unidentified		Yeah, it was.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How'd you get me?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Good on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is private property.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		The push was a little bitch for someone who's about to lose everything.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, the camera work was pretty good, too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just, he's just being silly.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But there's always a lot of that, too.
		That's a problem.
		It's just like we live in a strange world, and no one investigated where all this money was going in the past.
		No one investigated.
unidentified		How could you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		One of the things that Elon said to me said Medicaid fraud is the biggest amount of money that's fraudulent in this country.
		And he didn't want to even talk about it because he was worried that people would kill him.
		That's what he said on the podcast.
		He goes, I could go into this, but they'll kill me.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's like someone saying they have something they didn't have to get the catastrophe insurance thing.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Because, like, I had a— There's a lot of that.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like my dad had a stroke and you get like, it was stolen by a family member.
		The fraud is within my family.
		But that, yeah, that you get like 20 grand.
		Medicaid Part B, I want to say.
		If you have like a stroke, it's called a catastrophic event.
		They'll just like give you like 20 grand or something.
unidentified		Is it like that?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You like fake that or something and then get that money type of thing?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Is that like what medication?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You can fake a stroke?
		No, what it is is, well, here's the daycare thing.
		Like that's part of it.
		And then there's a bunch of people that don't exist that are getting Medicaid money.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then there's autism diagnosis, right?
		So they self-diagnose his autism.
		They open up an autism center.
		They have a bunch of kids in the autism center that get money for those kids.
		There's no autism.
		There's no kids.
		It's all fake.
unidentified		Right, right, right, right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's also like, there's these fake scams where there was one that they uncovered in Minnesota where they were supposedly feeding an exorbitant amount of children and there was no kids.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No one was going there, but they were saying they were feeding like 5,000 people a day.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They didn't even have the capacity to feed 5,000 people a day.
		There was no food coming in there.
		But the American dream, the politicians were getting so much money from these people.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just from the Somali community that owned daycare centers, the Minnesota politicians were getting $35 million last year.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Is that Tim Walz to blame for that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		Well, he just stepped down from his reelection.
		That's not good.
		That's not good.
		When you were almost the vice president of the United States, you know, how many people came at me?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		People that I'm like, thought I was friends with, like acquaintances, more maybe, but I now realize they were acquaintances.
		When I made fun of Tim Walz for going to China so many times, like, which let me not get this wrong.
		It's definitely more than 10, more than 10 or something, that Tim Wallace just like went to China to go, like, which is, you know, if you're going to have gone to China that many times and then run to be the vice president, why wouldn't you, why would you hide it?
		Number one, why wouldn't you lead with it as like this is one of our enemies?
		I've been, I know the language.
		Like, why wouldn't you either lean into it, make it, I'm an expert on it, and this is one of our big issues.
		Like, the fact that we all pretended that he wasn't going to China.
		First of all, on what salary are you going to China every year?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you see a politician when he was doing that?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		What's your miles program?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I could see if you were a businessman.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He was a teacher.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He was a teacher.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He was going with kids.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He was taking kids to China.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, doesn't that make sense, though, that you're taking kids on an international trip so they can learn about the world?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Only China.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Maybe that's his area of expertise.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to like.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But why not lead with it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Trying to steel man it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I know me too.
		I do the same thing where I'm like, why doesn't he appoint?
		I've been to China 35 times.
		I took kids there so they could learn Mandarin because they're going to have to interface with China later during business.
		Like it was just like this thing where it's when someone else tries to hide something, something that I wouldn't have thought was untoward.
		I'm like, well, hold on.
		Now it's weird.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And why can't I ask a question about it?
		Whenever I would say, how many times did you go to China?
		Everyone's like, what?
unidentified		What?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And I'm like, well, here's the crazy one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		When all the Somali daycare center came out, he started blaming white men for all the crime.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What about white men?
		Well, he's white men with all the crime.
		He's trying this, that pain.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He's like, what about me?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Woke playbook.
unidentified		Who about me?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm the criminal.
unidentified		I'm a white guy.
unidentified		What do you think?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He's telling on himself right then and there.
unidentified		What do you mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He was basically trying to say that it's racist.
		But it's not.
		Facts aren't racist.
		It's just clever.
		If they did it themselves.
		If they did it themselves, if they were the ones that were perpetrating the fraud.
		The real problem is if they didn't do it themselves, who helped them fill out all those forms?
		Who helped them organize this?
		And is this a money laundering thing?
		And are they filtering this money into other people's accounts?
		Are they filtering into offshore accounts?
		Because supposedly, here's another one.
		Supposedly they were sending money on a regular basis back to Somalia and they were catching them at TSA in Minnesota.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		See if that's true, Jamie.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's a lot.
		It's a lot, you guys.
		I mean, it's, it's, you know, I guess also the other question is when all this is going on, I'm like, do I focus on this or like, are we going to war?
		Like, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can only focus on so much.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the thing about the internet.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you want to get outraged, it's there to feed you.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, totally.
		And then all day.
		And then once you click on something, they're just going to keep feeding you more and more of that.
		And I'm sort of like, is this as big of a story as my algorithm is telling me it is?
		Because I remember, you know, and this is, I think, why it's like more important than ever to be on stage as much as possible to just corroborate like a premise to make sure that everyone even is aware of it, given our little echo chambers and stuff.
		But remember when, remember when Kamala Harris was like giving speeches that it kind of seemed like she was shitfaced.
		Like it just, it sort of seemed like she was like slurring words or something.
		Those were, you know, that would come.
		And I was like doing this joke about it before the election that was like, you know, like maybe this is what we need.
		Like what's scarier than a, you know, alcoholic woman with no kids, you know?
		Like she can just be calling up like Putin in the middle of the night like, hey, fat.
		Like she's just, you know, and I was doing it.
		It was doing well.
		Everyone got it.
		And then I was somewhere in like New York City, I think it was, and no one had seen that video.
		People are like, what are you talking about?
		No one had seen, had any awareness of that.
		And I was, it was kind of bone-chilling.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because I'm like, well, she's probably exhausted.
		Right.
		Here's the other thing.
		You're running around.
		You're doing so much.
		You're campaigning.
		You're constantly doing it.
		If you catch me and I'm really tired, I sound like I'm on pills.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, yeah, I don't fucking, I don't know.
		And then you're probably a little casual about everything because you're doing something.
		You're repeating the same things over and over again.
		You're going to these places.
		You're fucking completely exhausted or you're coming off of whatever they put you on to get you up.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, adrenaline.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, it's also, I think that there used to, there was this old way of doing things where you could say the same thing on every platform and no one would cut it all together.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
		Okay, here it is.
		I found it.
		I'm going to send this to you, Jamie.
		Because this is apparently a legitimate source.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I'm looking up the main source they said they got it from.
		It said Hotland Security officials told us a source called Just the News.
		So I've never, I'm just looking up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is the TSA.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what it says.
		Yeah, federal probe, hundreds of millions of dollars inspected with small cash and living Minneapolis airport.
		It says that this is the source of the story.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So I was just trying to find out if it's a legit source.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		What they were told.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		For sure, that money didn't just stay in the community.
		Especially if they didn't have the ability to organize this and develop this scam, someone else helped them, and those people were getting money from it.
		So how were they getting the money?
		Were they getting the money in cash?
		Was it being sent and wired to offshore accounts?
		How are they doing it?
		And it's clear that there's so much money missing.
		It's in the billions now.
		It's bigger than the entire GDP of Somalia, just from Minnesota, allegedly.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Wild.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The entire GDP of a country, one state's fraud, is supposedly over the course of X amount of days that they did this.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And is it true that the guy that uncovered it was kind of like some guy?
		Like it was like Nick Shirley kid.
		Yeah, this like inner kid.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Good for him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, there's the other question, like, did someone direct him towards this?
		Is this like, you know what I'm saying?
		Like, is this like, did the Republicans set this up to try to expose it?
		Is it him just being an independent journalist?
		He seems like a very smart kid.
		I've seen him.
		He was on Patrick Bett David's show.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's a virgin.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Why do we know that?
unidentified		Because he's a peace.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He talks about it.
		He said he was a virgin.
		He said they can't get him on anything.
		He can't get me on sexual assault.
		I'm a virgin.
		You can't get me on anything.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We can get you on being a virgin.
unidentified		Here's the article.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Transportation Security Administration flagged nearly $700 million in cash detected in passengers' luggage leaving the Minneapolis airport in the last two years.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's probably it.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
		A massive cash exodus believed to be tied to Somali immigrants and their money couriers.
		Homeland Security officials told just the news.
		So who's the Homeland Security official, though?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean?
		I was reading through it.
		That first statement doesn't say like all the flat.
		Sorry, let me start this over.
		Some of these were a million dollars, and it says that they were legally declared every time they did it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, but you could legally declare it if it was cleared by whoever the fuck is involved in this fraud, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So if you're donating $35 million last year, just last year in 2025 to Democratic politicians from these Somali daycares, which I believe is true.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I was trying to look that up and couldn't find out that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Bundles of cash and luggage, some as much as a million dollars in a single trip raised suspicions.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		This is the part I don't.
		I was like taking each statement as it doesn't say that those were each, like that particular one was a Somali person.
		That could have been someone going to Vegas, could have been someone going to buy a house.
		I don't know.
		Like I'm saying all $335 million.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Nobody buys a house with a million dollars in cash.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying they did.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying, but it could have been anybody.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It could have been buying a Bugatti.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Could have been a poker player going to a World Series of poker.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dan Cook's brother.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I'm just sort of saying to be Tony Henchcliffe going to the cowboy bootstore.
		It's conflating a bunch of stuff together.
		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Justthenews.com.
		Is that a legitimate organization?
		Is that a far-right organization?
		Let's look at their side articles and we'll get a view of what their perspective is.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Is that what you do?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at the trending lines.
		that a little larger.
		Let's see.
		Trump orders government to buy $200 billion in mortgage bonds to lower rates.
		That's pro-right wing.
		CDC misled the public with study implying COVID vaccines save healthy kids.
		UCLA expert warns, also right-wing.
		USCs is another sanctioned oil tanker in the Caribbean, sanctioned oil tanker, not just oil tanker.
		They were sanctioned, right-wing.
		Maduro's ouster leaves China holding the bag on oil investments, right-wing, right?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Also, what's in UCLA expert?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's the top one?
		Comrade.
		No, no, no.
		Larger?
		Comrade Singham to face House subpoena as his CCP-tied network reveals or leads rather renewed anti-ICE protests.
		So it seems like this is a very right-wing.
		This just the news seems like at least lead.
		See, just the news, no noise.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, House and House fails to override Trump VTOM.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That could be anybody from Minnesota then.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Minneapolis travelers alone had $342.37 million in their luggage in 2024.
		That's a lot of money.
		Okay, let's find this out.
		So Minnesota Travelers alone had $342.37 million in their luggage in 2024.
		So let's put into perplexity, how much money did California travelers have in their luggage in 2024?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		How many Bitcoin did California travelers have in their assholes?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		California travelers have in their luggage in 2024.
unidentified		But who puts that at the TSA?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		At TSA.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Does anyone ever measure your money when you go through or count it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		You're supposed to declare, I think, if you have more than 10 grand.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But we lie.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Everyone knows that.
unidentified		I know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know, I know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That's what they said.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		These were all, you know.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But if I went through with $1,000, they never would know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So the amount cannot be determined from available data.
		TSA and regulated agencies track only limited categories such as unclaimed money at checkpoints or certain cash seizures.
		And these figures are nationwide rather than specific to California travelers or all money carried in their luggage.
		Okay.
		So how do they know that about Minnesota?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It's coming from one source.
		And that's why I was like, why did they only tell one source?
		Why wouldn't they have told all it?
		Like, why wouldn't they call Fox?
		Why wouldn't they call it CNN?
		Why wouldn't it do that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Also, it's this one very right-leaning website, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It appears right-leaning.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		How do they ascertain cash someone's carrying through a Tennessee Star has it as well?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		They were just reporting the same article.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		From just the news.
		Right.
		So that's another way that you can distribute propaganda.
		You have one source, and then you send that source out, and a bunch of other people repeat it and said, as reported by this one website, and that one website might be bullshit.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I also like to look at the ads that are on the surrounding article.
		Exactly.
		If it's like gun safe, I'm like, this is right wing.
		If it's like tampons for men, I'm like, I think this is a left-wing one.
		I got it.
		That always kind of helps.
		That's wild.
		I have a family member who works in like kind of banking, and I'm like, what's up with this oil?
		What's up with the China buying up all the silver?
		What are we doing?
		Did you see the Doomsday Plane?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's the Doomsday Plane?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		The Doomsday Plane that, I mean, could just be a SIA, but it's the Doomsday Plane.
		I think it went to California, the one that is in case of a nuclear event, it can hold, stay in the sky for a couple days and self-refuel.
		It's made my nipples hard just looking at it.
		It's gorgeous.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Doomsday plane?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Jamie, can you pull up this doomsday plane so people listening don't think I'm Roseanne?
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Doomsday, Trump's doomsday E-4B plane sighted in Washington and Los Angeles days after Maduro capture.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But get that pretty picture up of it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that looks like a picture.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's them citing it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But go back to the art.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's look at this thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the doomsday plane?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that that with the blue stripe?
unidentified		Wait a minute.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're all different.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		This is when they're selling it for North Op Grumman, so anybody can buy it, and then you get it on America's logos on it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, but it's also different in the way it's built.
		Look at the top of it.
		Is that the escape pod at the very top where they pop off and go to Mars?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It's similar.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Inside the doomsday plane.
		Okay, so go back to the article.
		What is the, well, we'll put it into perplexity.
		What is the capacity of the United States doomsday E4B plane?
		Like, what does it do?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It can, like, stay in the air for a couple days.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It can refuel itself.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is the capacity of the doomsday plane the United States has?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's chock full of cocaine, ketamine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Elon made sure it's good.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Mushrooms, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, and accommodate a little over 100 people with typical published figures ranging from about 108 mission crew up to roughly 111 to 112, total passengers, total personnel, including flight crew and staff, and official media descriptions, usually summarized as seating for around 110 people.
		What can it do?
		Okay, endurance.
		Look at that.
		What's the maximum endurance?
		Click on that.
unidentified		No, this thing is like a beast.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It can stay aloft for 150 hours.
unidentified		Oh, that's it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's not much.
		With sources describing capabilities from roughly 72 hours up to about a week in sustained operations.
		So it can fly for a week.
		That's crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Because it can self-fuel.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It can fuel air.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Keep it up, please.
		And then how long can it stay with aerial refueling?
		This is what I think you were getting at.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It can theoretically remain airborne for several days, limited mainly by crew fatigue and maintenance needs rather than fuel.
		Multiple sources describe realistic endurance of roughly three to seven days of continuous flight under sustained operations when supported by tankers and rotation of crew.
		So here's the thing.
		If it is a doomsday scenario and you're up in the air for five days, it's just like, that just means you're going to die in five days.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		What's the.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Or do you just pull this out as a message to everybody, you know, because you would only need this if there was a nuclear event, right?
		So it's the idea to just go like, hey, what just happened in, you know, Venezuela?
		Just so you guys know we're flying this thing around.
unidentified		You know?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		When's the last time it flew?
		When's the last time it made a cameo?
		Also, I don't, I mean, I know we were talking about the Delta extraction, and like, I would never want to.
		I mean, watching the video of the Delta extraction, how they of Maduro, they built like a replica of the building and were blindfolded, like going through it, you know, practicing it and stuff.
		But it, it, I was talking to your guy when we were coming over.
		It could have been pre-negotiated, right?
		There is a chance that that could have been pre-negotiated.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They killed 80 of his services.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it was negotiated.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, probably not.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Here's one funny one.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But it is weird that his wife was there.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I guess that was like a thing a couple people flagged.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What, did they kidnapped her?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Just that she was there and involved.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, she's his wife.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		One of the funny ones was somebody posted on Twitter a photograph of this woman and her children, and the journalist said, this woman and her children, her husband and their father was killed in the U.S. raid in Venezuela.
		And then everybody was like, right.
		What was he there for?
		What was he doing there?
		Was he a fucking mercenary?
		Like, what was he doing?
		You know?
		He was Cuban, apparently, because there was a lot of Cuban defense that they used, that Maduro used for whatever reason.
		I guess communists love each other.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They hang out with each other, other dictators, like, hey, let me borrow some of you guys.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, the guy might have been a mercenary.
		There was certainly mercenaries working for him.
		I mean, he had 80 people died that were there protecting him.
		This fucking stormed in.
		They didn't lose a single U.S. service man.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Why?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So sick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's just like flawless.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Other dictators got to be like, fuck.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I mean, is that why Iran, was that why Iran was like, now's the time?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, the people are cracking down.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The people are out in the streets now, but now, apparently, the Islamic regime is assassinating people that are protesting.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		And your boy, this is where Elon really shines.
		Like, you know, bringing Starlink over to a country that has cut off Wi-Fi.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because that's what they do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They cut off Wi-Fi so these people can't organize.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I think it's also been cut off for that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I think they've had a limited version of it for so long.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they definitely killed people who protest.
		They killed a gold medalist in the Olympics.
		They killed a guy who was a wrestler, gold medalist, because the UFC tried to get involved and keep this guy from being assassinated.
		They killed him.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You've seen like video of Iran in like the 70s and stuff.
unidentified		Crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we did that.
		Yeah, we did that because they wanted to nationalize their oil.
		We were like, nah, playa.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Nah, nah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, hell nah, brah.
		Yeah, they had a democratic society.
		It is entirely because of the intelligence agencies.
		We went over there and, you know, the you can find the story.
		Find the story so I don't butcher it.
		But essentially the Shah was like, hey, why is the British Petroleum Company or whatever it was, why are they making all the money?
		We'll nationalize our oil.
		And he was gone, you know, within days.
		And they put in the Islamic regime and it has been a religious state ever since then.
		I mean, that's our doing.
		Or the British oil company and us, multiple different people.
		And essentially, it was all just about his oil.
		Or the country's oil, rather.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But Maduro, like, he was going to be torn limb to limb at some point, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, he had a bounty on him by the Biden administration.
		This is one thing that people need to understand.
		It wasn't just the Trump administration.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		The Hunter Biden?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's who descended.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He had his own administration.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's smoking crack.
unidentified		Kill him.
unidentified		He's ruining my crack.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, the Biden administration had a bounty on Maduro.
		I believe it was 20 million or 22 million trying to get people off that guy.
		So it wasn't like we're the only ones that think he was a bad guy.
		They were trying to use money to get people to kill that guy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And besides the oil of it all, were they going to allow China and Russia to use it to put missiles there?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		China was there negotiating with Maduro the day the U.S. came and kidnapped him.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Bad move, homie.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They came in that day and we're having meetings with Maduro.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And that night, they snatched him out of his bed.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You think to get oil or to put nuclear?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		100% to get oil.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They want that oil.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Everybody wants that oil.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's so funny.
		Like when I'm, you know, having a kid, you know, the way that it changes you, but like the things you focus on, the things you're obsessed with that keep you up at night.
		Like before I had a kid, it was like, is he going to text me back?
		Now I'm like obsessed with like finite resources.
		I'm like, where's all the helium?
		Like we're running out of helium.
		Like where's the.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's helium for?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Besides the list.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Hilarious.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I won't be able to have a birthday party for my son.
		What are clowns going to do?
		No, it's for ventilators.
		Although I think we found the ventilators actually harmed people.
		But I think it's like ventilators and medical stuff.
		Like, you know, helium is finite.
		Like, there's only a certain amount, and we kind of just use it for like the Macy's Day parade for like floats and shit.
		But I think that there is actually a lot of helium in Texas, maybe Oklahoma, and then Qatar is like the other place that it.
		But we have a limited supply of helium.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I never even thought about helium before, except the comedy clubs.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Don't get me started on sand.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Shout out to Philly.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I love helium.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a great fucking club.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Philly, awesome club.
		Also, sand.
		I think it's a good idea.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jamie, what's the story behind Iran and the nationalization of their oil?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a longer story.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That's going to go back to the 50s and 70s.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		But when we did it, because we definitely were involved.
		The U.S. was involved in overthrowing the legitimate government of Iran.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Putting the Ayatollah in.
		And then they ruined the entire country because Iranian women are fucking hot.
		They are beautiful.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And smart as shit.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I truly, my OB, who saved me and my son's life during childbirth, like just Iranian bitches do not play around.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They make great wrestlers, too.
		United States initially tried to mediate between Britain and Iran during the 1951 nationalization crisis, but then moved to help overturn Iran's elected government to reverse the consequences of the nationalization.
		It's all about oil.
		1953, U.S. officials helped organize the coup that removed Prime Minister Mohammed.
		How do you say that word?
		Masadaig?
		Masadegh?
		I don't know how to say that word.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to leave you out on a cliff on this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		whose rise had been closely tied to the nationalization of Iranian oil.
		In March 1951, Iran's parliament voted to nationalize the assets of British-owned Anglo-Iranian oil company, responding to long-standing grievances over low royalties and foreign control.
		That's it.
		Nationalist leader became prime minister soon after and made implementation of nationalization central to his program.
		So under President Truman, the U.S. generally opposed the idea of full nationalization in principle, but did not want Iran pushed to the collapse or move toward the Soviet Union.
		Washington sent envoys such as, oh, so they wanted to keep it away from the Soviet Union, so they turned it into his Islamic regime.
unidentified		Sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		George McGee and W. Avril Harriman to seek a compromise that would preserve Western access to oil while accepting some changes to the existing concession.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Couped reversal in 53 under President Eisenhower, U.S. Central Intelligence Agency working, there it is, working with Britain's MI6, carried out Operation Ajax covert operation to overthrow whatever you say his name is, Masadeya.
unidentified		Masa Daya.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And strengthen the Shah's rule.
		The coup removed the government most associated with oil nationalization and paved the way in 1954 for an international oil consortium in which five major U.S. oil companies, along with British and other firms, gained significant stakes in Iranian oil, ending exclusive British control.
		That's it.
		We did it.
unidentified		I was fascinated by it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We ruined it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		There was this TV show on, I think, National Geographic, I want to say, called A Little Light or a Small Light that was about what was going on with, you know, in the Holocaust.
		Like it was slow.
		It was slow.
		It wasn't just like one day.
		They just got, you know, it was like they slowly started seizing art and then, you know, not letting them get jobs.
		Like how these gradual things happen.
		Like to go from the 70s of like the women out in bathing suits on the to like there's women that were, you know, that had enjoyed the freedom and then all of a sudden had to, like, it's just so fascinating that like how gradual it is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And how you get desensitized, how you make.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's a frog in boiling water?
unidentified		That's it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They don't realize they're boiling until it's too late.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Or you do know what's happening.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And that's what's happening right now in New York City.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But he said he would stop the carriage horses, so I'm all for it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm kind of down with that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I think that's fucked up.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's disgusting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Those horses do not need to be wandering around New York City sniffing fucking brake dust.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's disgusting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Tearing assholes around.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's disgusting.
		I mean, it's, you know, you know me and my horse thing, but it's so disgusting.
		And, you know, the amount, it's like nobody knows how many elephants kill their trainers a year and how many, you know, all kinds of crazy.
		We saw the orca kill the trainer, you know, but stuff like that happens so often and they just cover it up.
		But the amount of carriage horses, a couple of them got out, and we've seen them get out and we've seen them collapse and all this horrific stuff.
		And something else is going on with it, which is, and look, I'm the first person to say, like, New York was really safe when the mafia was, you know, kind of like there's that documentary about how they would sort of protect people in the subways and you sort of would fill in where the government couldn't.
		But there's something going on with the horse carriage business.
		A horse got out who was 29 years old.
		Archie was his name.
unidentified		29.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		29.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It only had a couple more years.
		And I tried to negotiate with them, got a bunch of friends that have like FU money and basically said, you're going to get $38,000 cash.
		This is a horse that's pretty much done.
unidentified		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Cash.
		We'll take the horse in the middle of the night.
		No social media, nothing.
		And they said no.
		The amount of money they're making is so insane.
		And it's mostly tourists, honestly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They make that much money from horse-drawn carriages?
unidentified		Tons.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Tons.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		From other countries of people that have different ideas of animal respect towards animals than we do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so it's mostly foreigners riding in the horse rank?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I don't think there's a lot of people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's been a lot of white people in those countries.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
		Well, Polish people who are white.
		Russian, white, white.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Goofy fucks.
unidentified		Yeah, maybe that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we're in a horse.
		It's so romantic.
		We're out in the air.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It'd be so much sicker.
		I pitched them like do robot horses, like sick dinosaurs, do like a dinosaur trolley ride or something around the city.
		That'd be so much sick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jamie, I sent you that thing about the lady that's now in charge of housing in New York.
		This is wild.
		This one's what she wants to like kill real estate value.
		That's her idea.
		Like she wants to literally make housing more affordable.
		She wants to kill real estate value.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's an inelastic good.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You can't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, she's, it's moronic.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, this woman.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Listen to this lady.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Listen to this.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And she has like a million dollar house?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Her mom does.
unidentified		Oh.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course.
cea weaver ▲ ● ▼		A housing is owned by a collective, and people are paying 40% of their income in order to live in their housing.
		If your income is zero, you pay zero.
		If your income is $500,000 a year, you're paying 30% of that.
		And the government is providing the sort of government is the sort of owner, or not even the owner.
		The government doesn't have to be the owner, but the government is what's making sure all of that sort of works in cash flows.
unidentified		The debt to GDP ratio right now is the highest since World War II.
unidentified		So how can the federal government also afford to start subsidizing rental housing costs?
cea weaver ▲ ● ▼		The federal government prints money.
cea weaver ▲ ● ▼		The federal government can provide money for that.
unidentified		So it's by printing money.
cea weaver ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's her idea.
		Print money.
		The federal government prints money to provide housing, jack up interest rates, jack up the fucking debt, print money to provide housing, and everyone pays 30% for housing.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		First of all, why are you talking to me in a hoodie?
		What, like, what mental illness is that?
		Like, how dare you?
		First of all, you look like powder.
		You look like, yeah, like, first of all, first of all, get a blowout, throw some mascara.
unidentified		Like, we're, are we professionals anymore?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You're in a Costco hoodie and a t-shirt.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, what are we doing?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you've seen, they've confronted her about these ideas and she breaks down crying.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But she didn't even know what she's saying.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		She's like, well, sort of, like, she was kind of.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We won't own it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Her training was UCB.
		Like, she's just improvising an idea.
		No, the government does that.
		She's not even making eye contact.
		Like, damn.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot of these wokeys, they come from rich families.
		They feel bad about being privileged.
		And one specifically she said that was going to really impact white people.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		What is fascinating about that is that because I think she believes she's coming from the moral high ground, I think this is what's really sort of someone who I feel like is similar to you.
		And then I'm like, I was as liberal.
		I had blue hair, you guys.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I remember when you had blue hair.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I rescue pit bulls.
		Like, it doesn't get any more liberal than me.
		Like, it doesn't get any more.
		But the whole idea with being liberal is like, you had me at, we're not racist.
		Everyone's equal.
		Right.
		But, you know, diversity, but then it turns into diversity.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Communism.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Diversity, but not diversity of thought.
		Right.
		The hypocrisy of it got, and I think that as comics, we're people who, you know, I may not be an expert in politics, but I'm an expert on hypocrisy.
		When you grow up around alcoholics who say, I love you, and then their behaviors in Congress, you study, you look for patterns of hypocrisy.
		That's just what we're wired to do.
		So it just started to just be like, hold on, you know, we don't believe in gender, but we need a female president.
		You're like, huh?
		And then it's like, my body, my choice, unless it's a baby that needs a vaccine for hepatitis B, which comes from butt sex.
		Like, what do you, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And sharing needles.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And sharing needles.
		And then, you know, we believe in climate change and sea is rising, but we live on the coast.
		Like, would you buy a house on the beach if you truly believed that the seas, you know, we believe in recycling, but why can't you give Andrew Yang another shot?
		Like, why won't you give, where did Betto go?
		Remember Betto O'Rourke?
unidentified		Oh, that guy was a mess.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But any more so than any other person?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, he's a mess.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, worse than.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
		I mean, they're all a mess.
		Like, when you have these blanket progressive ideas, you've attached yourself to an ideology, and that ideology you'll defend because it's your identity.
		It's you.
		It's who you are.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But didn't he, he at least seemed, you know, I didn't know that much about what, from what I knew, he made a joke about his wife taking care of the kids, you know, and the left was like, you're sexist.
		I hate women.
		It was like, this, but what I saw with her was this idea of I'm so moral that I don't even have to make a good argument.
		And the left started, stopped making an argument or even outlining what they're just saying.
		Well, no, I'm moral and I'm better than you and I don't have to even make an argument.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that, I mean, I don't know when she gave that interview.
		So let's suppose she gave that interview a long time ago before she had this job and she was just saying, this is what ideally I would like.
		And then she gets the job, right?
		And now when she's, what is her official job?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		2021 was the interview.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		The Office of Office to Protect Tenants.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So was she working for that office back then?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		She would have been, I think, on Mamdani's.
		I don't even know if he was running.
		He wouldn't have been running back in 2021, would he?
		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, she definitely was doing podcasts with him back then.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Well, she definitely just got out of soul cycle in this video.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, I don't know what her actual position was back at the time.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		She might have been on his campaign.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so this was reason and they were having this conversation with her.
		And so to lead the city's office to protect tenants.
		Look, there's definitely slumlords.
		You should definitely protect tenants.
		There's definitely shitty owners and landlords that are.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		She's basically saying government housing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but what she's saying is crazy.
		Like taking 30% of whatever you make.
		That's nuts.
		So if you make a billion dollars a year, if you're Elon Musk or whoever it is, you have to make 30%.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's bananas.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		The thing about New York, and maybe this is, you know, and I don't, I don't even know what's, you know, side anything an idea makes anybody on anymore.
		Sometimes I'll say someone and people will be like, oh, so you're like alt-left.
		And I'm like, I don't know.
		I just thought that was a good idea.
		Then people be like, oh, so you're like super conservative.
unidentified		I'm like, no, adopt, don't shop.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You got it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't shop, don't adopt.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And so New York is expensive.
		That's the deal.
		If you don't have, you can't, I remember one time going to Howard Stern's house and Howard Stern is, he's got more money than, and it was like still in, he was able to get two, buy two floors of a, but it's still like an apartment.
		You know what I mean?
		It's like New York, this is what whatever $100 million, whatever, gets you in New York.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, I know it's not.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's still not that big.
		Like, like, I know.
		My horse's state.
		Yeah, my horse's stable is like twice the size of this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But if you want to live in the city for convenience, that's what it costs.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		So it's like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And if you're Jeffrey Epstein, somebody donates you a house.
unidentified		That's right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Or an office on the Harvard campus.
		I love it when people that are professors at Harvard are like, I was professor at Harvard.
		Like, well, so Epstein had an office too.
		But like, okay, I feel like it's just like, New York's supposed to be expensive.
		That's the deal, you know?
		And, you know, I had a place there for like a year.
		I remember I was in like Chelsea area.
		And because I just want to go back and forth.
		I was like, there's something about New York that does really put a fire under your ass.
		Like I remember, you know, actually it was dice back in the day.
		I used to just ask comics, like, you know, because you're just, you're a nobody and you're just starting and you're in the hallway with a legend.
		Like, what do you say?
		You know, and I would always just go, like, if you have any advice, happy to hear it.
		You know, some people love giving advice.
		Other people, I wasn't like going up to Bill Burr.
		Like, help me.
		Like, I could read the vibe.
		And he said, sleep, like, get as much sleep as you can.
		And then he was like, when you make it, make sure you don't get too comfortable.
		Because as comics, we still need to kind of.
		And I think that for a long time.
		For a long time, I think I took bad advice that maybe I had just gleaned.
		I don't remember anyone giving it to me of like, you have to be crazy to be funny or your life has to be a mess to be funny.
		I think a lot of comics hold on to that.
		If I ever get happy or have a kid or I'm in a healthy relationship, I won't be as funny.
		I don't think that's true.
		I actually think it freed up bandwidth.
		Like getting out of the way.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't have to be true, but it can be true.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It can be.
unidentified		That's right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, comfort can make people fat too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They can get lazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But also, it's like if you're not, you know, that's why I go to the grocery store.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I got, you know, not that I, you know, wouldn't, but like, I, you got to make sure that you're still in the trenches and that you still don't, you don't make your life so easy that you're not disassociated.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're not disconnected from the outside world.
unidentified		That's right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And just atrophied, like, and less resilient and, you know, and, you know, so what am I talking about?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		This is, this is where mom brain does come in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You were talking about New York City?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		New York City.
		So I'm in New York City and I just wanted to write new stuff.
		It was like things are going well.
		I bought a house and I was like, you know, New York's just, you're just a little more of a dog fight.
		And I wanted to go to the cellar and, you know, the stand and all these places.
		And I'm in this apartment.
		It's probably eight right before the pandemic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You got an apartment in New York before the pandemic?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		For like it was, I was already out of it probably six months before.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So you were going back and forth?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I had it for a year.
		I was going back and forth.
		Because I also was like touring so much that I would go, okay, if I'm going to be in, you know, Florida at the end of, you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I should just go to New York because then I'm going to North Carolina that Thursday anyway.
		I was just like doing clubs to work on the new hour.
		Like I might be able to do that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then you're single, so it's easy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And let me just stay on the East Coast, right?
		And let me just like do a software update.
		It's like, Ari made me go on a hike with him once and he's like, you need to go to Somalia for a year with no phone.
		I was like, I'll just, how about I get a place in New York?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ari's ridiculous.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		His ideas are so ridiculous.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'll go to Little Italy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		How about that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Should you go to Tibet?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's living a yurt in Mongolia.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And I remember like every time I would turn on the bathtub, the toilet would, the effluvium from the toilet would come through the bathtub.
		It was like some wild dude.
		And then there was also an elevator in the building that people kick it off on your floor.
		So half the time I'd be sleeping in like a bunch of dudes were just like, get off, you know.
		And I had this plumber come and I was like, oh, can you help with the shit, the gutter going into the bath?
		One thing that's relaxing is a bath.
		And then I'm just like in sewage.
		And he was like, it's New York.
		And I was like, oh, but like, can you fix it?
		He's like, nah.
		Like, his job is just going around to people and reminding them they live in New York and this is the deal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's no way to stop the fucking sewer water from the business.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He's like, I could make it, but like, that's not, it's just, this is, and this is part of why like Trump won, like, like infrastructure.
		You know, there's pipes explode all the time because they're just hitting their limit of being, you know, 100, whatever years old.
		Like, but New York is the place you go when you kind of, you know, want to be in a dogfight on a daily basis.
		You're going to be spending more.
		Every time you sit down, it's $100.
		You know, it's even if you get affordable housing in New York, like a bottle of water, food, like everything's expensive there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because it has to be brought in.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's emotionally expensive.
		It's literally expensive, figuratively expensive.
		Like it's, you know, I forgot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This lady's going to reduce all that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's going to make everything valueless.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, but why would you want to take the value?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's things that are artificial value, like art and stuff like that, but land is a- What's probably going to do is it's probably going to lead to some sort of a Republican government there.
		They're probably going to be a lot of backlash.
		People are probably going to organize, probably going to realize that you can't have communism, and that it'll swing the other way.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Because everyone's kind of leaving, right?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		All the people with money are leaving New York.
unidentified		They live in New York.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So they're saying, like, fucking Robert De Niro was talking about it.
unidentified		Whoa.
unidentified		He's like the king of New York.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's like, hey, he's his savings.
		Find out if that's accurate.
		But also, it might have been a fake quote.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		They need to use everybody's tax dollars to pay for all this, but all the taxpayers are leaving.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That are big money.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		But if they're taxing everybody.
		The thing is, it's like you can't just tax your way out of problems because we know that that money goes and it's grossly inefficient what they do with it.
		The government is not good at using your money.
		They've never been good.
		There's not like one example of the government doing an amazing job with your money.
		Originated as satire.
		There it is.
		It's fake.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he owns like hotels there.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He does like the film festival there and everything.
unidentified		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He's like, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he loves it there.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He's like the guy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People stand outside his house and yell at him.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		In New York.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Crazy Trump people.
		I mean, they know where he lives.
		So they stand outside his house and yell at him.
		Fuck you, Bobby.
unidentified		Good for everybody.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Trump won, Bobby.
		You fucking loser.
		That's the crazy thing about living in New York.
		Somebody just walked right up to your door.
		If you have one of those walk-ups, knock, knock, knock.
		It's the sidewalk is in front of your house.
		That's what De Niro lives.
		Let's go knock.
		Didn't some crazy person break into his house recently?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		An ex-wife?
unidentified		Like a lady.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think like some crazy lady stalker broke into his house when he wasn't there.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Lady stalkers can really get far.
		Because no one thinks that they're.
		I don't want to talk about one too much, but there's one in my life who can just.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Serial burglar accused of breaking into Robert De Niro's New York City townhouse went on new crime spree after release on bail.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Did they know it was Robert De Niro?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		2023.
		Yeah.
		Who is this person?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		How do they know he lives?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Serial burglar Shanice Villaz was allegedly caught red-handed trying to steal Oscar-winning actors' Christmas presents.
unidentified		Whoa.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's the Grinch.
		She was released from Rikers on May 3rd.
		Since then, she's been charged with at least two more thefts, including one in which she allegedly snuck into a Columbia University building and slugged a security guard.
		She's a villain.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I love like a Christmas present marauder.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, she was charged with stealing $416 worth of merchandise from a TJ Max s on 6th Avenue.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You can get a lot for that amount.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		A TJ Maxx.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's like most of the story.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She was busted again.
		Let me see her face.
		See if I can see Craig.
unidentified		Yep.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at her eyebrows.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Are those shaved?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at her face up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you got me.
unidentified		Whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Poor Robert.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I mean, like, what, like, if you're stealing Robert De Niro's Christmas presents, like, what's she going to do with an aura ring?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Security guard patrolling the building around 6.30 p.m. spotted tools sitting near an open window that should have been locked shut.
		And then found Avila's inside the building.
		Did she use tools?
		Filling up her bag with various items according to a criminal complaint.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She used tools, broke into the house.
		Bro, get a fucking dog.
		Get a Belgian mouth.
		Get a meat missile.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		People not having dogs.
		Like, what are you doing, man?
		I don't know how to convince people.
		I mean, yeah, I never have problems like that.
		I leave all my doors unlocked.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I wouldn't do that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, I wish a motherfucker would.
unidentified		Whoa.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I have large dogs.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but still, you can shoot your dogs pretty easy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And then, so your new dog was Marshall, like, instantly like loved him.
unidentified		Oh, of course.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're best friends.
		But the new dog's also like a little anti-wolf.
		They've taken wolves and turned them into these cute, cuddly, little things you can carry around with you.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		When I look at that, that to me is like, I feel like humans were kind of like, this is never going to change.
		But things do change fast sometimes.
		Like, you know, like smoking.
		I remember when I first moved to LA, people were smoking inside, and then I remember people going outside to smoke.
		Like it just, in our lifetime, we like watched a huge change.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They banned smoking in bars.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, huge cataclysmic changes can happen, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that's just because the people that were working in the bars were getting fucking cancer.
		So if the thing is, like, I want to be able to smoke in a bar, that's great.
		But what about the poor waitress?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right, the second hands, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This lady who just wants to make a living and doesn't even smoke, now she has lung cancer.
		That's crazy.
		So that is a liability for the organization, for the city.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's bad for everybody.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Pregnant women can't come drink at the bar.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Go outside.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You can't drink if you're pregnant.
unidentified		I know.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You're kidding.
unidentified		What?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Now you tell.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Damn it, Joe.
unidentified		But also, you can get hippie shot.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm obsessed with the things that are so dangerous that used to just be places like in shoe stores.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		They used to have little x-ray machines.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Shoe stores?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And people started getting foot cancer that worked there because all day they just put their foot in the x-ray machine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Because that's how they used to.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I remember because there was a shoe store where my mom lived and it has like an old antique one.
unidentified		An old antique antique one with a little x-ray machine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And if you're working there and you're bored and you're just sticking your foot in it all day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's nuts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I never knew that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's how they would take your foot size.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it nuts how like new technology, they have no idea it's killing people?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		No clue.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you know about the radium girls?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Love it already.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, this is a horrible story.
		So when you have a watch like, you know, like a Rolex, and it's at night, you could see its loom.
		So during the daytime, it charges up with the light.
		And at night, you can see the indicators.
		They light up.
		They glow in the dark.
		The reason they glow in the dark is because they're fucking radioactive.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So they paint, not now, I don't think, but they paint them.
		And so these girls were touching the tips of this fucking paintbrush when they were painting loom on these dials.
		And they were all getting horrific cancer where they were getting holes in their face.
		See if you can find some of the images.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, bummer.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's some images of irradium sickness.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Are these just your porn searches, Jamie?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We're looking for the uranium girls.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		These are the radium girls.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That's what I look like.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Bummer.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That's what all this is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Radium girls is like, I think there's a documentary.
		Yeah, there is.
		No, there's a movie from 2020.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because that's Joey.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The Dark Story of America's Shining Women.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's like all kinds of stuff like this.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like Christopher Reeves' wife got lung cancer from his machine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Nah, that kind of stuff kills me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I always think about nail girls, the girls that are in there doing acrylic nails.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're just inhaling this all day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know, and they wear like a fucking mask, like a surgeon's mask.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's just so they can talk shit about us.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that surgeon's mask is not going to help you from the fucking fumes.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People that work around toxic chemicals, I was reading this thing about women that clean, that women that work with cleaning solvents all day, you get lung cancer.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it's like they're smoking three packs a day.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
		Like the woman that's been with me, she's like my family who helps me maintain my house.
		It's all, we make it.
		It's all clean, you know, like not ammonia and stuff.
		Yeah, It's like vinegar and well, you should just have that in your house.
		Tea tree and stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Even if not, if it's not you cleaning, you don't want that shit in your fucking house, period.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but then like as women, then we like spray our hair and put a bunch of makeup on, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We're all high at all times, just chock full of chemicals.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like it's so wild you think about the amount of endocrine disruptors we put on a daily basis.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Pumping botulism into your face to keep it from moving.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I don't do it anymore.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ah, congratulations on your eyebrows.
		Your forehead moves.
		Your eyebrows have been freed.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It really is.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		My hairline went back.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Now, you said you've been doing the red light.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Red light is the key.
unidentified		Yep.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like red light, it brings collagen to your skin.
		It gives your skin a more youthful appearance.
		It like helps your entire body heal better.
		It helps your mitochondria.
		But we were talking about this before the podcast for both of us.
		It's improved our vision.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It really has.
		Like, my vision was on a downward, like, very steady.
		Like, I have these things here, these reading glasses.
		I don't use those at all anymore.
		I can completely read my phone now with no reading glasses.
		And before, it was a blurry mess.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Also, by the way, everyone I know with kids, like they're, and I'll be exaggerating a little bit, but their kids are getting glasses so young and having eye stuff so young.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're staring at screens all the time.
		You know, one of the things that you're supposed to do is if you're staring at something like really close to your face all the time, you should take breaks and look at things that are far away.
		Because otherwise, I guess your cornea reshapes and like your eyes literally become more accustomed to trying to look at things closer.
		It just fucks your eyes up.
unidentified		Right, right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then the light from the screen, that kind of stuff.
unidentified		I know.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I try to do the blue light glasses as much as I can.
		The amount of glasses and lights I have in my house right now.
		It looks like a fucking chemistry studio.
		But yes, I got, so I do red light on my skin.
		And because I was like, you know, look, the Botox thing is like TV executive ages ago when I was truly like in my 20s, the way they sell you on Botox is they say it's preventative.
		And you go, oh, yeah, okay.
unidentified		In your 20s and you're like, I was like 27.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I was like making a TV show, a couple TV shows, and they were like, well, she looks tired.
		I'm like, yeah, because I'm tired.
		Because you keep sending me notes at two in the morning to take out all the good jokes.
		Like, of course I'm tired.
		And so, you know, they say to do it so that you don't get wrinkles later.
		And then you're like, okay, well, now I'm 35.
		Like, why am I still getting it?
		Like, shouldn't I enjoy the prevention now?
		Like, it just sort of becomes a do this forever.
		And I was like, I don't even know who I'm doing this for at this point.
		You know, I just was like, I guess I'm not.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Especially if you just want to be a comic and you don't want to be cast in TV roles anymore.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I'm in movie roles.
		Even in TV roles, you can't act if you don't have expression on your face.
		It's the whole thing.
		You know, we've all seen actors where we're like, you just see one teardrop go down.
unidentified		Yo, I'm right here.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You know, Brotox, the rise of bread.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Brotox is weird.
		I shouldn't, but I do.
		I judge men very badly when I think they have Botox.
		When I see a man's face doesn't move, I'm like, I am not listening to anything coming out of your mouth.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Especially when it's hot on a guy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Why not enjoy the benefit of age looking good on a man?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because a certain amount of age, they're like, oh my God, I'm so old.
		When you get to like that Stallone age, like he was at the White House receiving some fucking award.
		You know, there's a bunch of guys that went to the White House and got awards.
		Did you ever see that?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Awards are so silly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You stand there and they put it around your neck.
		You're like, yep, I deserve this.
		But Stallone is there, and it looks so crazy.
		Like, he used to be my canary in a coal mine because I'm like, wow, you could be 70 and be jacked.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, this is awesome.
		You know, because like he kept it together for a long fucking time.
		Like, he was in great shape for a long time.
		But now he looks like he's just doing a bunch of stuff.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I think everybody.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at him there.
		That's crazy.
		First of all, that hairline is crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		This whole lineup of people are batshit.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Can you print this out so I can just put it in my bathroom to just- Is that Pacino?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who's the guy in the line?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We should know the answer.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Is that Gene Simmons?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		The woman?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, Gene Simmons is there.
unidentified		Is this the trans, the translation?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's 79 years old.
unidentified		Let me see.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Well, that was his way.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it's just like.
		So who's there?
		Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons.
unidentified		What was.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And Stallone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who's the guy in the back?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Are these the Benjamin Button awards?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, what is the actual award?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who's the guy in the far right?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I see what their list is.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Is this show list?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't say?
		Oh, there you go.
		Michael Crawford, whoever that is.
		I'm sure he's been in a bunch of stuff I enjoy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like entertainers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
		So they all got a big award.
		But it's just the way Stallone looked.
		It was like, God, what are you doing, man?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It looks like a facelift.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is it Trump Kennedy Center?
unidentified		Oh.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So he was acknowledging his 80s heroes with awards.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I used to like you in the 80s.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But by the way, just ask them to go to dinner.
		Like, how insecure that you have to give an award?
		Like, there was, what was it?
		Was it Cosby that Harvard gave him a fake award just to see if he would show up and he showed up?
unidentified		Oh, really?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like how narcissists will just show up to accept like greatest comedy person ever.
		And he like showed up and accepted it and they didn't.
		And they had to get him from the airport.
		They were like, fuck, this was like a joke.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Are you sure?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Jamie?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know anything about that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Go to Blue Sky.
		Go to Blue Sky.
		The Hasty Pudding or whatever Harvard's comedy troop is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they did it?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Did like a prank where they'll give celebrities awards.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just to see if they show up.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And Cosby showed up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's actually funny.
		Conan and his friend.
		Oh, okay.
		Conan O'Brien convinced Cosby that he was awarded fake the Harvard Lampoon's Lifetime Achievement in Comedy to be presented at Harvard.
		Bill Cosby actually flew all the way in a private plane to be picked up by Conan in his parents' station wagon.
		A modified bowling trophy was given as an award.
unidentified		Oh!
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like he showed up to get it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot of fun.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Imagine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is hilarious.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Imagine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So that was Conan when he was in Harvard.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's so funny.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So many fun writers came out of Harvard.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Out of Harvard, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Lampoon.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of crazy.
		I mean, it's interesting because they've, you know, not to like talk about TV dorkery, but I know a lot of them were friends with a lot of them, but like there was a little bit of like a elitism.
		I think it's part of what made TV start becoming kind of irrelevant is these sort of like elite writers from Harvard who don't necessarily have a, you know, I think that the best comedy, everyone can see themselves in it, or it's about something that we can all kind of relate to on some level.
		That's all these sort of kids going to a, you know, $70,000 a year elite school making shows like The Office and show, you know, these comedies that, you know, you know, look, like, it's, it's, a lot of my friends worked on the office.
		I love you guys.
		It's going to get me in trouble, but it is kind of like making fun of poor people.
		It's like, wouldn't it be funny if people like worked at a paper mill and like went to Chili's?
		Like, what a bunch of losers.
		My family members like go to Chili's.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That is real photo.
		That's Conan right there.
		He was 19 when this happened.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like they had to like scramble to pick him up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's actually amazing.
		That's actually amazing that he did that.
		That's actually amazing.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like that is, I love the little things where when you find out someone was a sociopathic monster that you're like, we should have known.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Even though it had nothing to do with drugging women, like the fact that he showed up to receive this award.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, the Harvard Lampoon is like a famous comedy thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So it would make sense that they would give him an award.
unidentified		That's true.
unidentified		That's true.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And before he was a monster, he was, I mean, like, you look at that image there.
		That's a black and white image.
		So Conan was 19.
		Conan's got to be in his late 50s, right?
		How old is Conan now?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it says it was an 85.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So he was very respected back then.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like Bill Cosby was the man.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Look, that show, I mean, when I tell you, like, my top five shows, it's Cosby, you know, Martin, Mary with Children was really big.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Can you even get Cosby anymore?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Have they hid that?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Maybe not even because no one thought it was weird that he was a gynecologist that worked out of his basement.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, How about that one episode where he had his secret barbecue sauce that made everybody horny?
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		But nobody's remembering?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How fucking who green lit that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're going to drug people?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Cliff Huxtable would walk up the stairs from his basement, take off plastic gloves.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, because he was just touching pussies.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That would have just been inside a woman.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Presumably.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He would just be like, yeah, like, like whatever he was doing.
		And then be like, anyway, so what's for dinner?
		And you're like, wait, hold on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's nuts.
		I didn't know that.
		I never watched that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He was a gynecologist, and he'd work.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I didn't even know he was a gynecologist.
unidentified		Out of his house.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He would deliver babies.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I always thought that was wild.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was so crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He'd take the plastic gloves off at the top of the stairs, like, fingers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I was dating a girl once back in the day, and she told me that her gynecologist hit on her.
		And she said she was so creeped out.
		Her gynecologist called her up at home and asked her out on a date.
		And she was like, what?
		Because he got a chance to take a look at that time.
		That times are pretty good.
		I mean, that's so crazy.
		Your gynecologist asks you on a date, and you're at home.
		And this is back, by the way, like when, I don't even, I guess they had caller ID in the 80s.
		So this would be after they had caller ID.
		Like, you probably think the doctor's calling you up because, like, by the way, didn't we just go on one?
		He just fingered me.
unidentified		Yeah, what was that?
unidentified		Hold on.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		What's your definition of a date?
unidentified		That's what I thought.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I thought we were at the work together.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You see my pussy and my asshole.
		This is nuts.
		I've been in the stirrups.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You fingered me and have all my money.
		Jesus Christ.
		That is, I mean, it is interesting that today for a guy to become a gynecologist.
		I know it was like the only way, you know, only men could be back in the day, but now for a guy to be like, I'm in med school to be a gynecologist.
unidentified		Yeah, everybody's like, what?
unidentified		Like, huh?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If I was a woman, I would never go to a male gynecologist.
unidentified		Oh, God.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
unidentified		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just the idea.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If he's heterosexual, he's staring at your cooter and thinking about sliding up in there.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Or the opposite.
		Or if he, like, doesn't care, you're like, why are you not looking?
		Yeah, why'd you put gloves on?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at that thing.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Look at it.
		Shine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I put glitter on it just for you.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember that?
unidentified		No.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But, butt.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Glitter?
unidentified		Good enough.
		Butt glitter?
		For real?
		No.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Remember, butt crystal.
		Remember, okay.
		Bedazzling, pussy be dazzling.
unidentified		No way.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yes, this was a thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did that give you cancer too?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like baby powder?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		This was a thing.
		Definitely something.
		But yeah, there was, I'm just always fascinated by like conflating like feminism with just like, just what are we doing?
		Bedazzling our pussies.
		Like, we're not like, breathe the nipple or like worth it.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Why Joe wasn't off on something?
unidentified		Okay, okay.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Is this William on your butts?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The hot new trend for summer, glitter butt.
		That's so ridiculous.
		Like, don't look at my butt, but look, it's glittery.
		That's hilarious.
unidentified		Glitter glitter.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's like a super nut.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It's also the butt plug thing.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		No, there was a lot of stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So where are these people wearing these glitter pants?
		I mean, it's not even pants.
		That was another thing that hoes would do back in the day.
		Remember, they would just paint their tits and you can kind of go out in public with pain on your tits like on New Year's Eve and stuff like that?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And people go, oh, you're topless.
unidentified		No, I can't pee.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And then it was like, why are you looking?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's like, okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What?
		Okay, these girls have glitter all over their pants.
		By the way, how toxic is that shit?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's just, hold on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So we talked about the Wizard of Oz and that poor dude who had to play the Tin Man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That guy got fucked up by that paint.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So did the woman that was the witch.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		She got her face cut caught on fire.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, oh, caught on fire.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Which, by the way, now we'd pay dermatologists to set our faces on fire.
		But back then it was, that was accidental.
		It was.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's like a layer of skin off.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's going to look young again.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Got to get out of that young.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Was it, what was it?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Asbestos or what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, she had green paint on her face all day long.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But in Tin Man, it was.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She had like, it was aluminum, I think.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Aluminum that's correct.
unidentified		Yes.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Which we put in deodorant, fine.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Not the kind you use.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I use Dr. Squatch.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's natural.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Works too.
		That shit lasts all day long.
		Dr. Squatch is a little bit more.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Also, if I stink that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't want to smell me.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		I mean, when I don't have, when I don't have deodorant on and I like work out and I hang out all day, and I'll smell myself and get disgusted.
		But like, I smell myself and gag.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'll do like wipes.
		I'll just wipe it.
		You know, you don't want to smell it.
unidentified		That's good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't want to get in there.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But we're not.
unidentified		I don't know.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I just, this whole thing where we all have to smell like a moonlit path.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you don't want to smell like a monkey in the zoo.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what I smell.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't know.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of a power move.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I guess.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You know how they say, like, Ronnie Jackson.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		When you have sex with your wife, she's plugging her.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		No, you know what?
		I'm sorry.
		I'm sorry to your wife.
		I love her too much to encourage this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like deal with my breath.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		What?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Brush your fucking teeth.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Are you crazy?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But isn't there something about like smelly, if someone smells bad?
		Like your wife, your BO probably smells good to her.
		Huberman actually talked about this when he was on my podcast back in the day about like if someone doesn't smell good to you, it means you're probably related.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think you need to talk to her.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She would probably correct you.
unidentified		Yeah, I fucking smell gross.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I eat mostly meat.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Because you're always in ketosis.
unidentified		Yeah, that's different.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Rotten meat coming out of my pores and pneumonia from sweat.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But if someone's like morning breath smells bad to you and they just, you know, like everybody's morning breath smells bad.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's got to be really horny to make out with someone in the morning.
		Like full-on make, like, you gotta, that's like, that's ultimate.
		I don't give a fuck.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't care what your breast smells like.
unidentified		Come here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's like crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Just, yeah, flip me over like an adult.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Don't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's like if you don't care about yeast infections, who cares about that smell?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let's go.
unidentified		Let's fucking go.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		There is something sick about once you birth a child.
		You're so tapped into this like feral, like, it's just so wild that I don't even think about morning breath anymore.
		It's you're just like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're cleaning diapers all the time.
		It's like when I was on Fear Factor, I didn't even flinch if someone threw up in front of me.
		I'd seen so many people throw up.
		Like one time my wife threw up in her car.
		And this is how like I am immune to throw up.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Because some people puke if they see me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because of all my years on Fear Factor, I'm completely immune.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		When I was a kid, if you threw up in the hallway in high school, I'd be like, which was a biological basis for that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We probably ate the same thing in the truck.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		That got wiped out of me on Fear Factor 100%.
		She was coming home from the gym and she drank wheatgrass juice and she fucking threw up in her center console.
unidentified		Yep, I've done that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And she was crying.
		She was like, human, no, I can't even clean it.
		It's so disgusting.
		I go, I'll clean it.
		Like, I don't give a fuck.
		I cleaned the whole thing.
		I got in there with towels.
		I cleaned her puke out.
		It didn't even make me flinch.
		I'd seen so many people puke.
		I've seen people puke for days and days.
		I mean, I did 148 episodes.
		So at least 130 of those times, people had to eat something that made them throw up.
		So I saw multiple people.
		There's six contestants.
		I saw so many people gag.
		And I had to be interviewing them.
		Like while they were gagging sometimes, while they were throwing up in a dumpster, I'd be talking to them.
unidentified		That was such a big deal, that show.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was so ridiculous.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Such a big deal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, I took that show because I thought it was going to be canceled.
		I thought, I'm going to get some jokes out of this.
		They're going to sick dogs on people.
		Oh, yeah, yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But you underestimated our deep desire for Schottenfreuda, like watching other people be scared and humiliated.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		The Coliseum, basically.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was also, I underestimated the entertainment value of the competition because it was competition.
		The grossness was great.
		It, you know, was definitely fun to watch.
		But there was also like real, like, significant competition.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There were some great moments.
		This is one moment where this mother and her daughter beat this father and his son.
		And the father and the son were assholes.
		They were just the dad was like a dick.
		Like, this is how you get ahead in this world.
		You be a fucking dick.
		And they were talking crazy shit to the set.
		And then the kid fumbled and fucked things up.
		And the dad fucked things up.
		And the whole crew was crying.
		Everybody was so happy.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		I'm fascinated.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm fascinated.
unidentified		I'm crying if I saw it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I just sent Andrew Schultz a clip that I'll cry if I talk about because he was posting something about like a daughter asking his her or a gymnast who the daughter was getting attached and wouldn't let her go to the routine.
		So she did it with her daughter.
		And there's this, whoo, there's this video of this girl.
		I think it's in Brazil.
		She's doing a cooking competition.
		And, you know, there's like, you know, timed cooking competitions.
		And she can't open a jar.
		And her dad is in the audience.
		And she runs and gives it to her dad.
		And her dad just opens it.
		And it's like, gives me goosebumps every time.
		But dad's man.
		But that shit just kills me.
		Oh, God, this kills me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, she runs.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		She can't get it open.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why do they make jars so fucking hard to open?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		By the way, if your hands are wet.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's her dad.
		Look at her dad.
		Oh, God.
		Oh, God.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		So this is costing all this time and he's freaking out.
		Oh, Jesus Christ.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's cool that you can do that, though.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because it's ridiculous that you can't like opening a jar.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Well, you got to hit it on the side of a thing.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Or like if you just clank it on something.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But it's like, I think he posted something about, you know, when like runners don't finish the race and the dad comes out and like helps him cross the finish line or something.
unidentified		Oh gosh.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I love shit like that so much.
		But I can't remember where we were on this now.
		I'm just going to sob.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Competition.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fear factor.
unidentified		Disgusting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It turned out to be fun.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's what it is.
		I think I'm fascinated by, and I'm like a football dork.
		I know you're not like the biggest football fan.
unidentified		Even though you are.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I can watch football.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You can go to some games.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I like it now.
		I get it.
		I watched the Texas AM versus the UT game.
unidentified		Holy shit.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It was incredible.
		Incredible.
		And I think that what you're going for is it's almost like this gambling addiction in a way because it's like, even when your team loses, you're all losing together.
		And it's, you know, you get to feel like you're a part of something.
		There's so much like, you know, reptilian sort of hardwiring at play.
		But for me, it's like about these goosebumps moments that you can't have every game that would take the value out of them.
		Like this past season when have you been, I don't know if you're a football guy, Jamie, but Philip Rivers coming back to the Colts.
		And him coming out of retirement, two major players came out of retirement this year that were like coaching.
		They were done coaching their kids little league in high school.
		Phillip Rivers was just coaching, you know, what a 45, 44, 45 years old.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		There's a fun caveat with that too, but tell me.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		He's got so many kids.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		10, right?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		He was about to hit retirement.
		His five years, you have to wait to go to the Hall of Fame.
		But now he just like re-upped his NFL health insurance.
		So now it gets coverage for, I mean, he's rich as shit.
		He doesn't really need it.
		Just a little caveat of like he gets coverage for life.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Him getting away from the business.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I realized.
		And I realized this at the UT game.
		When you're a fan of football, you get big moments many times.
		If you're a fan of a fight, you get the fight, and then one guy wins and one guy gets horribly destroyed sometimes.
		Like sometimes your guy gets flatlined and you're watching your guy laid out with his toes curled, his legs stiff, his arms up in the air.
		He's completely unconscious.
		And the other guy is on the cage like this.
		And then the medical people are taking care of your guy.
		And you're like, oh, fuck.
		It's the worst when you see like families and children see their dad get knocked out.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's so hard.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's so hard.
		When you see wives crying and then the camera turns to them, you see them there.
		You're like, oh, no.
		It's just football's a different thing.
		You know, when someone throws the ball and then the person catches it and goes across the line and you see 100,000 people.
unidentified		That's right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And so much is the type of fan base, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But like, the people in the audience feel better.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like they are, they're celebrating in a different way.
		Because when a fighter wins, it's an individual.
		But when a team wins, it's your team.
unidentified		That's right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's different.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And you can make the argument on some level that, you know, not you're a part of it, but like the energy you bring.
		Like when I went to the Rams game, I'm like an Eagles fan.
		And Rams game, all green, all Eagles fans coming for away games.
		Like, you know, it's imagine being like the Eagles and looking out at like all green in another, you know, city.
		Also, is it Matt Prady?
		I think it's his last name.
		He was a kicker for, was it the Bills?
		Both of the kickers got injured and like they didn't have a kicker.
		And they're like, imagine getting the call.
		You're coaching like your middle school son's whatever little league football and you get the call like, we need you.
		You know?
unidentified		Really?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's like, yeah, he goes in and he kicks like the winning field goal.
		This was in September, I want to say.
		I love shit like that so much.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's awesome.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You know, when you also just moments like what Saquon Barkley did last year, like jumping backwards over, like there's a video of his teammates watching him do it going, fuck that.
		Like it's just, I love watching the interplay between the team members too.
		It's like comics.
		It's like, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
		I didn't like it before, but I get it way more now.
		I get it way more.
		Because for me, it's like a watered-down version of fighting.
		I'm like, well, they just fight.
		But now I get it.
		It's not that.
		As an audience member, it's better because you're like a part of the game.
		Like we are scoring.
		It's a really, it's a stupid thing to say.
		We.
		You never say we won that fight.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		That's right.
		Also, but I think the we of it also happens to, you know, the reason I think as live performers, when you see a team like the Eagles do so, so well, and then that's the last time they played the Rams just fall apart.
		You're like, what, just per what we were talking about with Fear Factor and what you're capable of when you're on TV, when you've been insulted, when your ego's been, when you're in front of your kid.
unidentified		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to eat a live rat, but if my kid is watching and someone just insulted my kid, I'm a different person.
		You know what I'm saying?
		I will fucking fuck this rat in the ass to, you know, whatever I need to do.
		Or if money's involved, I'm obsessed with sort of like the, you know, the most dangerous team to me is always the one that hasn't won any games.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the most dangerous fighter is the one that needs money.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		That's right.
		And I'm just fascinated.
		Didn't Floy Mayweather used to practice by doing like live Facebook, Facebook lives with like girls around to try to did he really?
unidentified		Uh-huh.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I think he would do like Facebook lives.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, he definitely did that to show off, too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He was so fucking good.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He was so good, but he would do crazy things.
		Like they would have rounds that would go on for 10 minutes.
		He would, you know, he would have like, what would he call it?
		Like the dog pound?
		He had like a name for it.
		We'd bring a bunch of guys in there and they would just box and they wouldn't have any rounds.
		They would just box.
		So like, you know, it's sink or swim.
		You got no rounds.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're just in there, but no one's going to tell you to stop.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		This is crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is crazy.
		But he also, he also was a master at boxing people and talking shit to them.
		So it was, I'm sorry about my voice.
		But it was a part of like the whole thing of it was that you were watching all this chaos and then you're dealing with the psychological aspect of each guy talking shit to each other.
		And it's also like refers to as Jim's notoriously grueling sparring sessions, known for intense no rules fighting until someone quits, designed to push boxers to their absolute limits.
		I mean, it's not a mystery why he's one of the absolute greatest people.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Until someone quits.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		By the way, this guy's had multiple hand surgeries, so he couldn't really even like blast on guys like he used to when he was younger.
		You know, when he was younger, they called him Pretty Boy Floyd.
		And so in the early days of his career, he was a knockout artist.
		He was fucking people up.
		But he doesn't have big hands.
		And so he was breaking his hands like multiple times.
		And so then he became Money Mayweather and just started boxing everybody's face off.
		And like if you go back and watch some of his early knockouts, also he wasn't certainly facing the caliber of fighters he faced as a champion.
		But he's the best ever at not getting hit.
		That guy's been cracked maybe like three or four times in his entire professional career, which is wild.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And is his ability to not get hit, is that from outworking everyone or something genetic?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Is there some gifts?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a whole bunch of things that came together.
		So one of them, his dad, Jesus Christ, his dad was Floyd Mayweather Sr., okay?
		His dad fought Sugar Ray Leonard and gave him a hell of a fight.
		His uncle was Roger Mayweather.
		Roger Mayweather, multiple time world champion, the black mamba.
		So he grew up in a gym with Jeff Mayweather.
		And these guys were all killers and they were boxing scientists.
		They knew everything about boxing.
		It's a famous quote that people always use, Roger Mayweather.
		See if you could find it.
		He was like, most people don't know shit about boxing.
		And everybody who knows anything about boxing, and by the way, I'm not a boxing expert.
		I'm like a fan.
		Compared to the regular person, I know more than most people.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Rhonda, he's a fan.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Most people don't know shit about boxing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let's see if you can get him say it because it's just, it's the way he says it.
unidentified		Most motherfuckers don't know shit about boxing.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it's 100% accurate.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's 100% accurate.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Is boxing like, and not to compliment what we do in any, this might sound insulting to athletes, but like, is it similar in a way to comedy in that there's certain things like you can't really teach?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like you have to find your thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's certainly like genetic advantages that are huge.
		They're almost insurmountable.
		There's some people that have like speed, like Roy Jones Jr. was the best example of that.
		He had speed that was otherworldly.
		Like no one had seen anything like that before.
		And he had a style that no one else had.
		Roy Jones, so the most important punch in boxing, if you ask any boxing trainer, they'll say the jab.
		The jab is what establishes distance.
		The jab is what you could score with.
		The right hands try to knock him out.
		Left hooks try to knock him out, uppercut.
		But the jab is the most important punch in boxing.
		Roy Jones rarely threw jabs.
		He would throw left hooks.
		His left hook was so fast that he would throw a leaping left hook and it would hit you as fast or faster than another person's jab.
		And you had to calibrate for that when you're fighting him.
		Like all of a sudden, there's a guy who can do things that are literally superhuman.
		Like no one can move like him.
		He has a left bicep that's like twice the size of his right bicep from throwing left hooks.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And is this like how Michael Phelps has abnormally long arms or something, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, he developed that left bicep.
		That's why his right bicep is small.
		His right bicep is normal sized.
		His left bicep is fucking huge.
		So look at the photo.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Whoa, whoa, whoa.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bro, let me tell you something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Roy Jones in his prime was a freak of nature.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And do you try to go like, okay, you know, I'm just going to.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at his build.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at that left hook.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Insane, dude.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He was a freak and also extremely intelligent, crafty, set you up, knew what to do to get you to move this way, and then you're moving that way.
		And then he's doing things you can't do, so you don't anticipate that someone's going to be able to leap in from there and catch you with an uppercut.
		You don't even understand how it happened.
		He's the only guy in the history of, I believe, CompuBox.
		It might still be the case.
		And it was in this fight, the Vinny Pazienza fight, where, look at that.
		Put his hands behind his back and knock the guy out.
		One of the only fights in the history of the sport where the opponent landed zero punches.
		That's the stoppage of Vinny Pazienza.
		He was a freak.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Wait, how did that even happen?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He hit him with a left hook to the body.
		He was so fast.
		He would hit him.
		Yeah, he was so good.
		All of his fights were essentially executions.
		He went from 168, he won the world title at 168, went up to light heavyweight, won the world title at light heavyweight, went up to heavyweight, won the world title at heavyweight.
		He was a fucking middleweight in the Olympics.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That looks like, remember the video of Putin doing like Kung Fu or Taekwondo and they're pretending to fall?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's what this looks like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, Roy was so.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		This is nuts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He was so fast.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And he was so hard to hit.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Whoa.
unidentified		Yeah, exactly.
unidentified		Cartoon.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a 1-2 he hits this guy with that I sent a friend of mine who's a boxing fan the other day.
		And I'm like, look at the speed of this one-two.
		He hit this guy with a counter-right hand, like a counter 1-2 right hand.
		It was freakish.
		It didn't even make sense.
		There's the left hook.
		That left hook.
		Look at that.
		That left hook.
		That left hook's crazy.
		Look at him.
		Like, what?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Nope, no.
unidentified		He just went down.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Watch that left hook.
		He's trying to get up.
		He keeps face planting.
		And that's Montell Griffin, who's a world champion.
		Look at that left hook.
unidentified		Good lord.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He even was like, good lord.
unidentified		Lort.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there was, you know, there's guys that are amazing, and then there's Roy Jones.
		Roy Jones was, he was a freak.
		I mean, it was like nothing.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But that was unbelievable.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my gosh.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was all his fights.
		Look at that right hand to the body, Virgil Hill.
		He knocked him out with a right hand.
		By the way, to the left side of his body, that's not even where your liver is.
		Your liver's over here.
		Guys get dropped all the time with a left hook to the body.
		He hit him with a right hook to the body and stopped him.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I always get obsessed with like as like as comedians, the more comedy there is and has been, the more original we have to be.
		You know, I'm always fascinated by like, you know, you know, fighting or sports, like, you know, a football, for example, like, you know, Go Barrett, the Eagles doing the tush push.
		It's like everyone had to start studying that and this thing that worked, now everyone knows you do it.
		So now, you know, it's fascinating to me when a fighter's so good at one thing, everyone starts learning to defend that.
		And then, you know, because it used to be like you could just fight and people saw the fight once and that was it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's where Roy had the advantage over everyone else.
		There was no internet back when Roy was on top.
		So the thing about the internet now is any kid with, you know, limited resources can study all the greatest boxers of all time.
		So Mike Tyson, when he was young, one of the great advantages that he had was Jim Jacobs was his manager.
		And Jim Jacobs was a legitimate boxing historian who he carried these tapes in old films of everyone.
		Jack Johnson, Harry Greb.
		He was watching Sandy Sadler, all these Willie Pep, all these like Rocky Marciano, Jack Johnson, all the great champions of history on film.
		So he'd study film footage all day.
		He would put these 32 millimeter or whatever, was it 32 millimeter or 16?
		What are those things back then?
		16?
		So the real to real.
		So he'd have to feed the tape into the thing.
unidentified		Right, right, right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And he would sit there and watch everybody fight.
		So he had this massive advantage of seeing all these incredible fighters.
		Like he mirrored his style a lot around a bunch of different ones, but one of them in particular was Jack Dempsey, who was like one of this most, I mean, I think Dempsey was the champion.
		And I'm trying to figure out what year this was where Jack Dempsey was the heavyweight champion.
		He was like, it was a savage time.
		I think he was a hobo at one time in his life.
		Like, it's a savage time.
		And he was a savage man.
		And he was annihilating people.
		And he wasn't very big either.
		From 1919 to 1926.
		What did he weigh?
		What did Jack Dempsey weigh when he was fighting?
		Okay.
		I'm going to guess: 180 pounds.
		187.
		187.
		He was the heavyweight champion of the world.
		He weighed 187 pounds.
		That's nuts.
		That's 13 pounds less than me.
		He was the heavyweight champion of the world.
		This is that is that's fucking bananas.
		And another one that's even crazier is Rocky Marciano.
		Rocky Marciano, who was the heavyweight champion in the 50s, I believe, one of the only heavyweight champions to ever retire undefeated.
		He was 5'10 and he weighed, I think, 185 pounds.
		And he killed everybody.
		He killed people.
		He hit them so hard that they would just go dead.
		He would just shut them off and they would like collapse.
		He was a murderous puncher and he was a small guy.
		184 pounds when he won the title from Jersey Joe Walcott.
		Now, Google or look up that fight.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		He was shorter and 100 shorter.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look up that fight where the KO of Jersey Joe Walcott.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You just have to see the punch he hits him with.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And this is before peptides.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		He was eating spaghetti.
		This is like a crazy Italian from Brockton, Massachusetts.
		But just see if you can find the KO because the KO is not, by the way, Jersey Joe Walcott is one of the all-time greats.
		I mean, he was a phenomenal boxer.
		This was a little later in his time, you know, but he had had a long career.
		So he knocks him down with that right hand.
		But watch the KO, though, after this.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		This.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		There's a second fight.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they must have fought twice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So find the other one.
unidentified		Whoa.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is, yeah, this is the one.
		Okay, watch how he KOs him.
		He hits him with that right hand.
		He had the craziest work ethic of maybe any heavyweight of all time.
		He would work out.
		He would run 10 miles in the morning.
		He would work out all day long.
		Sometimes he would spar 100 rounds for a fight each week.
		He was sparring constantly.
		And then he would swim after training five miles in a lake.
		His cardio was just off the charts.
		And it was because he got tired once in a fight when he was an amateur.
unidentified		He'll do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And he said, I'll never get tired again.
		And so he just decided to outwork everybody.
		But you got to see the KO.
		See if you can zoom in.
		I mean, it was a brutal fight.
		I mean, Jersey Joe Walcott gave as much as he got.
		But here it is, right there.
		Watch that again.
		Back that up again.
		Watch this right hand.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Mike drops.
unidentified		Boom.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Mike drop.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The power in that.
		It's his every ounce of his body.
		Watch how in slow motion he creeps in.
		Look at the explosion and the extension of his back leg.
		See that?
		The extension of the back leg?
		The turn of the shoulder.
		The back gets into it.
unidentified		Boom.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Look at his back.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, holy shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just fucking boom.
unidentified		That's over.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, and he's done.
		And again, Jersey Joe Walcott was a legend.
		And then he hits him with the left hook on the way down.
unidentified		He wasn't totally down.
		Oh, he's dead.
		Gone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy how powerful that guy was.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Before all the things.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		The coal plunge, all of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No steroids, no.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Anger and having been molested.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And eggs and an immigrant from Italy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I was thinking about this the other day because I was in England.
		My brother lives there.
		And I was like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I believe his family was from Italy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think he was a child of immigrants.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm obsessed with Italian immigrants because you go to Italy all the time.
		Imagine the people that were like, nah, like how beautiful Italy is.
		We pay to go to Italy to see that view for three days.
		And they're like, ah, no, thanks.
		I'd rather maybe get leprosy on a boat for 10 weeks.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know what life was like in the 1920s when my grandparents came over here, but it wasn't good.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, nobody.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There was a lot of them came over from Ireland, from Italy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, bad news.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they came over before YouTube.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They just, someone drew them a picture.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		This is what it's like over there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're going to get a job.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Imagine, like, when I look at what goes on in the comments section, America is so torn apart.
		I'm like, this wasn't ever going to go any other way.
		Like, imagine, I'm obsessed with just the ocean.
		Like, just imagine looking at the ocean in a boat and being like, all right, I'll get on that.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fuck with your kid.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Only the craziest people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		That's why everyone in the East Coast is so fucking insane.
		I always say that.
		I always say the most violent, crazy fucking people are on the East Coast.
		Why?
		Because they all came, their grandparents came over on a fucking boat.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		All their ancestors had toxoplasmosis or whatever it was, and were just like, I'd rather.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'd rather die and have frostbite and warm my frostbitten fingers in my wife's carcass, leprosy carcass, than not be able to worship who I want or say what I want.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of that, too.
		I mean, that's what brought people over here initially.
		A lot of people came over for religious freedom, which is a crazy thought.
		But like the Quakers, like what were those fucking people all about?
		Wasn't that a big part of why they came over here?
		Like they were being persecuted in England?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Which is so weird because we go to England and pay to go in the churches now.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I was like waiting in line to go in an English church.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, what was the deal with the Quakers?
		Are they like a cult?
		Like, are they around anymore?
		Are there any Quakers?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Uncle Ben.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jamie says yes.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Uncle Ben.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is it like?
unidentified		I think so.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Can they make good rest?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's, I don't know.
		I've been really into Amish, though.
		There's, I'm in like Amish core algorithm where it's men like build barns in a day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sexy, right?
unidentified		Dude, it's so hot.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		My porn is just watching men be useful and they'll just build a barn and just like the Amish life.
		I feel like we're all kind of trying to go like, how do I get chickens?
		How do I self-sustain?
		How do I like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Some guys think it's hot when women cook.
		Same reason.
		Same thing.
		It's like sexy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Because they're going to eat soon?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, well, no, because a woman can cook.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like a woman that's like really into feeding you.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a good woman.
		Like a woman who wants to cook for you.
		She wants to cook for you for a guy that's hot.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		This whole thing of like, I'm not going to cook for my man.
		It's like, you get to eat too.
		I mean, like, what are you going to eat?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you don't have to cook for your man.
		Like, I wouldn't expect anyone to cook for me.
		I think that's crazy.
		I know how to cook.
		But there's something about somebody wanting to cook for you.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's wanting to do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not doing it because it's a chore that you're making them do.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like somebody does something nice for you because they want to, it's so much better than if you have to ask them and they don't want to do it, but they concede to doing it.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		No, I love that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Also, I want to know what's going in your body.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it used to be a valuable trait for someone to be building something.
		Like a guy who could go out there and do something with his hands.
		Oh, that is a man that can provide a shelter.
		And if the roof breaks, he can fix it.
		Like, this is a good value.
		Also, he can do hard shit.
		He's a guy who's got endurance.
		He's durable.
		He's not going to fall apart like this job is too hard.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		There was a list of jobs that were more likely to be replaced by AI and less likely.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And for some reason, less likely was roofers, which I thought was interesting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they're right.
		They're going to have robots that can do a lot of roofing.
		Yeah, for sure.
		They'll have a roofing robot.
		That's not that difficult.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		A roofing robot, which Cosby will just start using a roofie robot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're going to miss the value of a really fucking hard job because there's a value in a really hard job.
		But I know a lot of kids avoid hard jobs, and you shouldn't do a hard job for your whole life.
		But there's a real value in a hard job.
		And I had a job.
		Well, I've had a bunch of construction jobs when I was a kid because my stepdad's an architect.
		So I worked on a lot of construction sites.
		But I also had a very good friend, Jimmy Lawless.
		Shout out to Jimmy.
		And when I was a kid, I worked with him.
		He was a year older than me, and he'd already graduated.
		He was a carpenter's apprentice at the time, I believe.
		He might have actually been a carpenter.
		And I just needed a job.
		And I think I was probably 18 or 19.
		And I got a job working on this construction site.
		We were building a wheelchair ramp for a Knights of Columbus hall.
		And I had to carry cement and pressure-treated lumber all day.
		That was the job.
		I had terrible nutrition.
		I would like eat sub-sandwiches and drink a Coca-Cola.
		And you're out there in the sun all day long.
		You're not hydrated.
		I was always dehydrated.
		And I was carrying cement and pressure-treated lumber all day, which is a gross lumber that they have to soak in horrible chemicals.
		Yeah, pressure-treated lumber, like you would get these splinters and they would get infected.
		It was nasty.
		Like you're dealing with whatever the fucking chemical that they treat that thing with.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You're the radioactive shiny.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's on your skin.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it's August, so you're sweating.
		So you're sweating like crazy.
		This shit is getting in your pores.
		You're carrying bags of cement.
		You're breathing cement dust all day long.
		And by two weeks, I quit.
		And when I did quit, I was, I was, it was, I was like, okay, now I know that if I don't get my shit together and figure something out in life, that that could be the best paying job that I can get.
unidentified		Yep.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That whatever I got, that I mean, it probably wasn't even 20 bucks an hour.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember what you got paid for.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And if I get injured, I don't have health insurance, and that's just my body now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And I was clearly handling something that was toxic all day long.
		What is in pressure-treated lumber?
		What do they use?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It's supposed to be left outside that stop like insects and right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what it does.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like termites can't eat in the middle of the morning.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I have a weird question, though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's fucking poison.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Is today's version of a poisonous, dangerous job like that sitting at a desk looking at a computer all day?
unidentified		Ooh.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it very well could be, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And don't they say that like LED lights are actually not good for you now?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But just like sitting at a desk that is, you know, you don't have standing desk, you don't have one of these whatever sibians or whatever I'm sitting on.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And you're like, I mean, people just sending emails all day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, is it definitely bad for your back?
		It's tightened my lower back considerably.
		I think a big part of it is sitting like this all the time.
		So I'm super conscious about it now where I do a lot more lower back exercises than I ever used to do before.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But you, I got that machine you told me to get where you lift your back.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Reverse hyper.
unidentified		That's right.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Louis Simmons, who was a legend in powerlifting, he invented that because he crushed his discs and they told him that he had to get his discs fused.
		And he said, well, if I crushed them, can I separate them?
		And they're like, no, it can't be done.
		He's like, I'll figure it out.
		So he made a machine.
		And you climb on this machine and he realized that in the descending, you're actually decompressing your back.
		And in the ascending, you're strengthening all the muscles around your back.
		It's a fucking genius piece of equipment.
		He was one of the rare people that I traveled to do a podcast with.
unidentified		Oh, cool.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I got that's like the main machine I kind of like have.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the shit.
		He's also got a belt squat that he gave us before he passed.
		And that machine's awesome, too.
		You put a belt around your waist, and then the cable goes down in between your legs, and you're standing on a platform, and there's a stack of weights behind you.
		So instead of doing squats, which are one of the best exercises of all time, but the problem with squats is if you're squatting heavy, you've got all that weight on your back.
		Okay, it's all your if you've got like 400 pounds, you're squatting, if you're a beast and you're fucking, you've got 400 pounds trying to crush all your discs.
		And the only thing that's keeping that from happening is your strength.
		All your fucking core muscles and your spine muscles.
		But you're compressing everything with that weight.
		With a belt, you're not.
		So the belt is on your hips and all the weight is down there.
		There it is.
		So that's me using it at his place.
		And then he gave us one.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Is his sit-down squat machine bullshit?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Just these ones.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I do that one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, not at all.
		No, that's a leg press.
		That's a very good machine.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's what I do.
		I just don't want to.
		My knees are squatting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The problem with that is you ever see what happens when people lock their legs out and it bends backwards.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Don't pull back.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jamie, pull that shit up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Pull that shit up.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm calling a child.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't need to know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You need to know that this can happen because I saw it happen to a lady once in one of these videos that looked like she never worked out.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I saw the one with the guy's sphincter came out and I saw it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jamie don't saw without us getting in the middle of the moment.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I'm getting ready to see what I'm going to find.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I was in the sphincter algorithm.
		I don't want to get in the knee snap algorithm.
		Well, as a person who's had three knee surgeries, I have all good schlotters in my left knee, so I just have to like.
		And when you squat, are your knees supposed to go over your toes or not?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You 100% can.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I 100% can, especially you could build up to it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I do knees over toes stuff.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I had that guy knees over toes on the podcast.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's amazing.
unidentified		I follow him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Everybody should follow him.
		He's 100% right.
		He's one.
		I mean, I will tell you 100%.
		There's no room for error.
		That guy's right.
		He has an amazing protocol for strengthening all the muscles around your knees.
		I followed it.
		It has radically changed the progression of the injury and made my legs stronger than it was before the injury.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I also do weighted vests kind of all day.
		I've worked up to it.
		It's only like 30 pounds, what I do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's the Gary Breca move.
unidentified		Oh, is it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		30 pounds is a lot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're carrying a 30-pound weight vest.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I have a 30 and I have a 15.
		So I realized that with my kid, I'm bending over so much and picking him up so much.
		I was like, I could probably kind of work out all day if I really just wear a weighted vest.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot of weight to wear.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's gotten taken from me at TSA a couple times, but I'll just get it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's hilarious.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They take it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		If it's the place.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're like, jihad, just kidding.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just kidding.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, you think that's the worst thing in my bag?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Three off from the fucking gun I have in my burst.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just have like a digital recorder in your pocket.
unidentified		It looks like you're ready to press a button.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Put the vest back in your suitcase, ma'am.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's just like anthrax.
		Chill.
		But yeah, they take it every now and then.
		But I kind of have just tried to wear it like kind of all the time.
		And then I'll do whenever I'm writing.
		Like if I am sitting down, I'm going like, I have to make sure that this sitting down, which is so bad for me, there's something else happening.
		So Huberman gave me the, it's called, it's a red light, but it's like sauna space or space.
		It's just a bulb, one big red light bulb.
		That's the same as the, like the juve or something that's like a bunch of little red lights.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, if is it working for you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It must be.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, I think so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't, I'm not a red light expert, but I bought Gary Brecca's machine.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the full body guy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Big, giant, crazy body machine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's the shit.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Can you go in there and just like fall asleep or something?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I do fall asleep, but I'm always tired.
		I'm always doing too much.
		But when I get in there, it's 20 minutes.
		I just lay there for 20 minutes and 100% it's helping with my eyesight.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But you keep your eyes open.
		You don't put the glasses.
		Sometimes they give you like glasses.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fuck your glasses.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fuck your glasses.
		I'm here to tell you, I'm living proof.
		Unless somehow or another my eyes are getting damaged and I don't realize it.
		How are they getting better then?
		Why is my vision better?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the only thing with the body.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why does it not bother me at all?
		It doesn't seem that strong when it's in my eyes.
		It's not like I'm like, oh my God, I can't look at it.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If it was that bad to look at, wouldn't it be hard to look at?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like the sun is hard to look at because it's bad to look at.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, bright lights.
		I'm like, Jesus Christ.
		Yeah, it's hard to look at.
		is not hard to look at at all but it's also like with a lot of that's my meathead logic It don't hurt, don't worry.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Meathead logic is like, We're so suspicious of like simplicity, which is like, does it work for you?
		Yes.
		Then it works.
		You know what I mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If it works, it works.
		That shit works.
		Because we're all like, but there's a ton of science behind red light therapy.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Including like what frequency it's at.
		Because this one that he has, it's attached to an app.
		And you go through the app and you could change it for different effects.
		Oh, I don't know how much that's real.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
		It's like, dude, here's the thing.
		Here's the thing.
		I, as a, as an aspiring snake oil salesman, like, I, you know, I remember I was with a friend of mine who's a big like lawyer in LA and we're kind of more friends that he worked with prior and he just got all these stories.
		Like he was there the day that Michael Jackson's hair caught on fire.
		Like he was at the commercial.
		Like he's more like just my buddy.
		And, you know, we were outside and there were like mosquitoes and I had this like citronella candle, you know, and I was like, oh, let me light the candle.
		So the mosquitoes, and he's like, those don't work.
		And I was like, it's citronella.
		Okay.
		I'm going to light it so that we don't get mosquito bites and get bitten with whatever's in the fentanyl water of this state.
		And he's like, it doesn't work.
		And I was like, yes, it does.
		And he's like, no, it doesn't.
		I was like, how do you know?
		He's like, because my dad invented it.
		It's fake.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's hilarious.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But like, it also, the flame, he was like, the flame does deter them a little bit.
		So it doesn't not work, but it's like that, you know.
		So I'm fascinated by those things.
		And also, I don't know if when you were broke, you ever just did like weird ass shit.
		Like I used to do studies like when I first moved to LA.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You were like a lab rat.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So here's the thing about studies is like pretty much anyone can sign up and it's usually people that need 50 bucks like now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So that's already a pretty biased sample of people.
		People that are like in like in DTs basically, like shaking, needing drugs like this minute.
		And you get $50 cash.
		And the more you talk and the more you complain, the more they'll ask you back.
		So I'm not going to say these big companies that I did stuff for, but like, you know, everything from food to skincare to, I mean, I did a lot of pharmaceutical trials at colleges that like the pill never came out.
		Like the FDA never approved it.
		Like there's things where I'm like, wait, did that ever get passed?
		Or I just took that for a month for what was the, you know, but I also, I took Accutane.
		I took all kinds of stuff.
		That's like, you know, bad news.
		But, you know, so look, in studies, like it's, it's kind of the same group of people.
		Like where I was, it was like, there were a lot of by Pink Dot is where I used to live.
		And there were all these like office buildings.
		You would go in.
		It was usually like 20 people.
		And most of them just wanted to get the fuck out of there.
		I would be like, so yeah, no, I just.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you see some of the same people over and over?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		There was like seven or eight people.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We would all go to every study and we'd all get called back.
unidentified		Okay.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And you get to know them outside of the study.
		And then now when I like look at like side effects of a pill and it's like drowsiness, I'm like, that's Jocelyn, dude.
		That's her.
		She's always drowsy though.
		She's drowsy even when she's not in the study.
		Like we hung out, but like these are people that always would like like headaches.
		Like he always has a headache, dude.
		I saw him before he took that pill.
		Like he's always complaining about headaches.
		Like these are human beings that just say what they have to say to try to get into more studies.
		I'm not saying this isn't all true.
unidentified		Like that's hilarious.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm just fascinating because as someone who was a flawed, desperate person who needed $50, I was very much like, well, what about this?
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And by the time they ask you if you have it, you probably do.
		They're like, did this cause anxiety?
		I'm like, well, I'm in a study for money.
		So yeah, I have anxiety now that I think about it.
		If I wasn't anxious before, you just made me realize how much my life sucks.
		Like, it was like UCLA would be like, depression.
		If you have depression, come do this study.
		It's like, even if I don't have it now, by the time I get to the study, I'll be depressed that this is my life.
		So sure.
		You know, so studies, I'm always a little bit like, and who, what person, like the thing that gets thrown around a lot, I had a boy and people always want to throw around like girls mature faster.
		It's like, it makes sense, but you're like, who put me in a cage with the guy that wanted to study boys and girls maturing?
		What do you like like you were watching girls and boys mature?
unidentified		What is this?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Human biology is fascinating.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I don't physical maturity, emotionally.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Leave out the possibility.
		Well, both.
		Right?
		I think, but why wouldn't you want to study that?
		That's like one of the weirdest things that happens to people is you know when a person is an adult.
		Well, we have an agreement.
		At 18, you get it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So what's happening?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		How do you define the process?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Is it physical maturity?
unidentified		Is it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, girls are better in school.
		It seems like their minds develop faster.
		They believe their frontal lobe is fully formed quicker.
		With boys, I think it takes till they're 25 until your frontal lobe is fully formed.
		It's probably testosterone, which is like some, probably some kind of mental poison, which is probably why people associate testosterone with shitty behavior, right?
		Because there's probably part of it at least that's like a little bit toxic.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		They said boys should be moving when they're learning.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, they also need to blow it out.
		And a lot of boys don't.
		They don't blow it out.
		So if you're not playing football or wrestling or doing something that's really hard to do, you're at this weird stage of your life where you used to be a child.
		And then all of a sudden you start getting testosterone.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then you're looking in the mirror, you're like, what the hell's happening to me?
		And you're a child, right?
		So you're 13, 14 years old.
		Your body's developing.
		It's fucking weird.
		It's weird.
		And then you start getting aggressive.
		Well, kids are, a lot of boys are aggressive early on, but a different kind of aggressive.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like a violent, dangerous aggressive.
		Kids get 15 and 16 and they start playing around with violence a lot more.
		And, you know, you have schoolyard fights that get pretty brutal.
		You know, things become different when boys become more dangerous.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And that's like a primordial instinct to find the pecking order of the tribe kind of thing.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		The Lord of the Flies type thing.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Do you think I want to go back to that in a second or don't have to?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I was just going to say this is why it's probably important because it's always associated with dumb people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And there's probably some accuracy to that because the people that I know that have been the most brilliant scientists, except for Huberman, there are a lot of them are very low testosterone males.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And they're males that became like very interested in intellectual pursuits and they're way better at it.
		Is it because they're better at it because they spend so much time doing it?
		Or is it because of the testosterone?
		Is it because these higher testosterone men are distracted all the time?
		They're more angry and they're more horny and they're more reckless.
		They want to fucking skydive and do crazy shit.
		Is that what it is?
		Like it might be it might be a factor.
		And if these guys did have low testosterone, they'd probably be interested in being stimulated in some other way.
		Or is it just that intelligent people recognize that these are stupid pursuits?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And I'm not interested even if I have normal testosterone.
		Well, it's probably a combination of all those things.
		But it seems to be like there's a lot.
		You associate a scientist with like a nerdy, weak guy.
		You associate a meathead as some jack guy as being really fucking stupid.
		Why?
		Because we pattern recognize.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, of course.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But is it because they're actually dumber?
		Like biologically?
		Or is it because they're dumber and they have more testosterone?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm also fascinated by the way we define intelligence and maturity.
		By the way, I heard this quote the other day.
		I don't know who said it.
		It was in a, I don't know, but it was because we spend so much time trying to gain intelligence.
		I want to know everything.
		I need to be, you know, I want to learn.
		I want to learn.
		I want to, you know.
		And then I think there's a certain point.
		Maybe it's because I've had a kid.
		I'm sort of more interested in like wisdom, especially also when you've been around long enough and you've seen things you found to be true be completely debunked.
		Like remember when we all thought soy milk was healthy and now half my guy friends have tits and my girlfriend's tits all got cut off.
		I'm like, everyone I know has cancer.
		And I'm like, we were just like deep throating soy milk.
		Like I, you know, so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How much glyphosates and that stuff?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		After you've been conned enough, you're sort of like, you know, I think very skeptical about accepting these like new truths.
		And look, we learned that the Native Americans and the pilgrims had like a fun dinner.
		They like got along great.
		Like that's what, like, did you have, I had a mural in my school of the Native Americans and the pilgrims like having dinner, like having a great time.
		Like, I feel like that's not how it went down.
		You know, so when enough things get sort of debunked, but this quote I loved, which is, um, intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
		Wisdom is knowing not to put it in the fruit salad.
		And I like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
		That's logical.
		You know, because like there's also, there's different kinds of intelligence.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And there's the intelligence to be able to push yourself physically.
		It's, you don't think of it intelligence because it's not like equations.
		It's not problem solving.
		But it is problem solving because it's problem solving emotions and anxiety and fear.
		And you're doing it with your willpower.
		That is, it's mental fortitude.
		It's a part of intelligence.
		It's just not a recognized part of intelligence for people that are absorbed with all the other pursuits.
		People that are really heavily absorbed with mathematics would never think that like endurance running is a mental pursuit, but it might be all mental.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the other thing.
		When you say like athletes, meatheads, like that's, I mean, football's all math.
		You know what I mean?
		It's like, I think we also just have this.
		We talk about stereotypes against women.
		We don't talk a lot of stereotypes about men.
		Like, he's an athlete.
		He must be dumb.
		You know what I mean?
		Like, there's just these kind of, I think, sort of silly assumptions.
		Like, you know, I'm obsessed with commercials from the 90s where every man just like had Down syndrome.
		Like, remember every commercial, the woman was like, I have to feed my husband.
		And he's just like, where's the front door?
		Like, it, like, in sitcoms, men are always portrayed as if they just like have one chromosome, you know?
		And I'm sort of fascinated by that.
		But the definition, yeah, what does intelligence mean?
		Does it mean memorizing a bunch of stuff from a book that like, was it, weren't our textbooks written by like Ghelane Maxwell's dad or something?
		I'm dead serious.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I think you might be right.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Like, I is that it's without going too far.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		He did do something about consolidating a bunch of medical journals, the textbook thing, maybe.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		There was a history textbook that was like, and, you know, so memorizing a bunch of stuff that like may or may not be true, like that's not intelligence necessarily.
		Like, you could be falling for a con.
		I think intelligence is.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, we were talking about what Hume Brumman said about medical journals.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, that he had talked to that professor and he said, what percentage?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The guy was like, at least 50.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		50.
		If that percent.
		And then who is wild?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And who paid for the other ones?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's so wild.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The idea that we know everything is crazy.
		Here's another weird thing that you said something that football is all math.
		There is this really weird thing that I was reading about the invention of mathematics.
		And they were talking about one of the most, the biggest conundrums in the universe is that they invent this thing, humans invent this thing to try to solve the universe.
		And they find out that the universe is encoded with it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's just like the turtle shell is the calendar.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		This really stressed me out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I did see that.
		I did see that, but I didn't look into that at all.
		This was like, I wanted to bring it up on here, see if we could fucking dive into what exactly this guy is saying.
		But essentially, he's saying the universe is made out of the thing that we invented to measure it.
		That's how he described it, to my monkey mind, right?
		Like that math was something the human being, like calculus, like advanced physics, like these crazy equations.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Call Eric Weinstein immediately.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Call Terrence Howard someone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Call Eric Weinstein and he would explain differential equations.
		I don't understand what that even means.
		I can say those words.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right, right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But we invented it.
		Humans invented that so that they could figure out how the universe is made.
		Like what is the structure of things, how to measure things.
		But the universe itself is encoded with this.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's like it is made out of the thing that we invented to try to figure out my adjacent tangent while Jamie looks up whatever that is, because I can't really respond to it except with this sort of realization that all the movies that current tech entrepreneurs, or Benjamin Franklins of our day, grew up on, science fiction movies, in many ways formed what they believe a future should look like.
		Like, you had someone on the podcast.
		Someone sent me this clip about how you said, like, how is AI going to kill us?
		And he goes, I can't tell you because I would never have thought of it.
		Like, I can't think of it how.
		Like, it wouldn't even occur to me to know what they would do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it'll do some slick Roy Jones Jr. shit on you.
		That's what it's going to do.
		It's going to do the Roy Jones Jr. of tech, and it's going to do it in a way that we could have never possibly thought that it would control us in that manner.
		And then it would just govern us and probably limit our breeding.
		And that would be a wrap.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, how tech bros like grew up watching weird science.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So by the time they go to start inventing stuff, you know, like how that influenced the way that they invent things.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think AI is probably going to tell us to either adapt or go away.
		It's going to give us those options.
		Because I think it's going to say you can't keep doing the same thing over and over and over again and expect a different result.
		You're talking about war and stealing money and embezzlement and fraud and the amount of money that's in politics and Congress and the amount of politicians that lie.
		You've been doing it this way forever.
		Forever.
		If AI said, listen, you can't govern things anymore.
		You guys are super fucking corrupt.
		You're not going to change.
		You can't do any of the things that you've been doing in terms of distribution of wealth, controlling of natural resources.
		What?
		You dug a hole in the ground so you get the world's oil.
		Fuck you.
		That's crazy.
		You don't own the oil because you own the ground.
		It's literally a part of the world.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So we'll take all the oil and distribute it to everybody.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If I was AI, that's what I would be saying.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		To try to find some kind of...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying oil to oil people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't own the oil.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But then it kind of.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		AI would think that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So you think AI would have a concept of like fairness and would go, everyone should have a certain amount of happiness.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Or would AI go, well, this is how things have always been?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It would recognize that human beings are so destructive and so often full of shit and manipulative and looking to just figure out a reason or a way that they can sneak something through or make something happen or overthrow a government.
		AI is going to go, you can't do it that way.
		We're not going to give you that kind of power anymore because you guys are abusive every single time you get a lot of power.
		But then it's going to be like, okay, what do the people do now?
		What if the people resort to violence?
		And then it's going to say, like, look, you can't have any more fucking kids.
		You guys are making kids.
		You're going to either have to integrate with us or you're going to have to go away.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So they're going to go, you have to fuck us.
		I guess you have to fuck us.
		Of course, that's always where it ends.
		But because AI is based on an amalgam of all of us, by that very nature, wouldn't it mean that they would abuse their power once they get it?
		They're going to go, you abuse power, but because we do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Maybe, but why are we doing it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, are we doing it because of chimp instincts?
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, I'm reading this book, The Chimp Paradox, recommended by Ronnie O'Sullivan.
		Have you ever heard of that book, The Chimp Paradox?
		That's what it's called, right?
		Make sure I get it right.
		Chimp paradox.
		But it's all about you have like a person in your head and a chimp in your head.
		And you got to decide like when to listen to the chimp.
		Yeah, that's it.
		That's the book.
		Very good book on mental management.
		And Ronnie O'Sullivan is like one of the greatest snooker players of all time, if not the greatest.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		What game?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Snooker.
		They call it snooker.
		Snooker in England.
		It's a crazy, cool game that's like a pool game, but it's a way bigger table.
		It's like a 12-foot table.
		And there's different rules.
		And I don't understand it totally.
		I don't know how the score goes.
		I've never played it.
		But this guy was just a fucking wizard at it.
		But like most wizards, he's a crazy person.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He had a hard time managing his mind.
		He'd just go off the rails and think he was useless and think he could never win and just whatever fucking mental demons you battle when you're truly brilliant at something.
		He recommended that book.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Doug, I could just get into some weird space about Pythagoras's stuff.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Some guy wrote an article about the math thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That was kind of in the title.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Humans Internet Mathematics is what the world is made of.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		He wrote about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Pythagoras's revenge.
		Most people think mathematics is a human invention to this way of thinking.
		Mathematics is like a language.
		It may describe real things in the world, but it doesn't exist outside of the minds of the people who use it.
		But the Pythagorean school of thought in ancient Greece held a different view.
		Its proponents believed reality is fundamentally mathematical.
		More than 2,000 years later, philosophers and physicists are trying to take this idea seriously.
		As I argue in a new paper, mathematics is an essential component of nature that gives structure to the physical world.
		Honeybees and hexagons.
		Bees live in hives, produce hexagonal honeycomb.
		Why?
		According to the honeycomb conjecture in mathematics, hexagons are the most efficient shape for tilling the plane.
		If you want to fully cover a surface using tiles of a uniform shape and size while keeping the total length of the perimeter to a minimum, hexagons are a shape to use.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen when someone tests if honey is real or not and they put honey on a plate and it just starts forming a hexagon?
unidentified		Sick.
unidentified		What?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that real?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's bees are so metal, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They are so metal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, there's more metal.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Tell me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The wasps who behead the bees.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Don't get me started on wasps.
unidentified		Oh, dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Those wasps who come in and just wipe out an entire colony.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		There's a big-ass wasp infestation, I think, coming next summer to California.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wasps are scary.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Dude, aren't they just assholes?
		Like, they don't even have predators.
		Like, they don't even serve any purpose except to just kick the shit out of me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what purpose they serve other than scare the fuck out of me.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Well, the bears eat the larvae.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I got stung by a wasp.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You know, if you go underwater, they'll wait for you.
unidentified		They wait.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're like the Belgian malmoisters.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		They're just dicks.
		Like, they're just, instead of moving on, they wait.
		Whereas a bee doesn't want to sting you.
		If you get stung by a bee, like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, a hornet can sting you over and over again.
		A wasp can sting you over and over again.
		A bee can only sting you once and it's dead.
		It's only stinging you to get you the fuck away from the body.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they don't want to sting you.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They want you to get the fuck away from the queen or get the fuck away from the hive.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They don't just want to sting you for no reason.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You had the bee lady, I think, on here.
		She DM'd me about something because I like, I'll get bees out of my pool all the time when they're like drowning, even though they do have the ability to make their wings go so fast that they can get out of the water when they go in circles.
		So sick.
		But I was like rescuing them from my pool and she was like, if a bee is out, that means they're a forager bee and they're going to die in a couple days anyway.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, so you're risking your life.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		For like just for two minutes, trying not to drown.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm just stopping Darwin and a few videos.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It could be bullshit, apparently, but it does, it is weird when you pour water into the honey, it starts forming a hexagon?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Like a honeycomb.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Whoa.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		And they're saying it's like a memory, which everyone says that's bullshit, but it's doing that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How's that not just water bubbles mixed in with the honey?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		When people have done fake honey, it dilutes it in a different way.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		But someone from top comment here said they did the exact same thing that happened.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was one of the things that beekeeper later was telling us is a lot of honey's bullshit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's got corn syrup in it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		I mean, as I have my two jars of honey in front of me.
		But I do try when I travel to eat local honey when I land.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She said that's bullshit too.
		That thing about it helping your immune system.
		But I don't know how you would know that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Placebo effect is an effect, so now what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's good for you, though.
		Honey's good for you.
		Some good aspects to it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Manuka honey, anything on that?
unidentified		I think it's a scam.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She said they just had a good PR agent.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Good for them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But there is psychedelic honey.
		Do you know about that?
		Yeah, this is wild because the way they have to collect it, it grows on cliffsides.
		So these guys, they have to repel and risk their fucking life to get this honey that makes you trip balls because there's a special kind of flower, I guess, that has a psychedelic compound in it.
		And I don't know what that compound is.
		A guy brought it in.
		I tried it.
		It was interesting.
		He said, just take a half a spoonful.
		So I said, fuck you.
		We're going in.
		I took the whole spoonful.
		I'm like, let's see.
		Let's see what's up.
		It's something.
		There's something there.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Is there something about the sugar?
unidentified		This is what it looks like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But see if you can show them harvesting because when they harvest, this is how they do it.
		How crazy is that?
		So this guy's on this giant rope ladder and probably doesn't have any sex.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Is that a mushroom?
unidentified		Oh, whoa.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Those are all the hives.
		That's how they grow.
		Under cliffs.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So sick.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And what is it that if a bee stings you, does it help with inflammation?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like if you're sometimes, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes it helps people with like arthritis and shit.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like bee stings.
		Like people have used them to alleviate certain forms of arthritis.
		Make sure that's true.
unidentified		Pretty sure that's true.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Or the, yeah, the pain is so severe that you just.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You hear about the lady that fell out of a plane.
		I think she was skydiving.
		I think it was a skydiving exercise.
		And she landed on a fire ant and they kept her alive because they stung the fuck out of her and her adrenaline literally kept her alive.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And is that also what?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I remember I had my ears.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at that little motherfucker.
unidentified		So sick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How do you see sting therapy?
		How it works.
		Okay, how does it work?
unidentified		Click on it.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		This one says too risky for treating osteoarthritis.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I think it's.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, don't be a pussy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's just because they can patent bees.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I mean, isn't that what acupuncture is like based on?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If they could patent bees, then they would make you do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Bill Gates is buying all the bees.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You need to get vaccinated for arthritis.
		And it would be like, arthritis was costing us so much.
		Arthritis is actually a disease.
		It's costing us so much money.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
unidentified		That's it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And we've patented bees, so we're going to, you got to, you have to get stung by our bees.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's so funny.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's like, didn't NMN, didn't they start taking that off the market so that they could make it prescription now or something?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that true?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're probably trying to do a lot of that.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like all of them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're trying to keep certain peptides from becoming legal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's silly.
unidentified		It's silly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's all good for people.
		I know you're not going to make money off of it.
		It doesn't mean it's not good for the overall human race.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You shouldn't be able to stop products that are super beneficial just because you can't profit off of them.
		That means you have a captive industry.
		That's not good for anybody.
		It's not good for you that you're allowed to do that.
		You shouldn't be allowed to do that.
		It's not good for anybody else.
		Peptides are really beneficial to people.
		And some of them are okay as long as they're making a ton of money off them.
		Like these Wagovi peptides.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, the ones that like GLP-1 inhibitors.
		Those, you know, the numbers of people that are on those now.
		It's kooky.
		It's like more than 10 million in this country.
		What's the number of people that are on GLP-1s?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And is that also called Ozempic?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wagovi.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And there's another.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a bunch of different names for them.
		They're basically, it's a GLP-1.
		It's a peptide.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And I mean, there's good press about it, there's bad press about it.
		It's like, you know, the person I saw this morning, like, she's like, I lost 60 pounds.
		Like, I was going to, like, it was, you know, she's like, even if there's side effects, like, I was going to get diabetes.
		Like, it was bad, you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, 100%.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Obesity was our big problem.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like almost everything.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's like goods and bad stuff.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I took Accutane when I was, I think, 14 or 15, and they're like, oh, well, a side effect is you're suicidal.
		I'm like, when you're 15 and you have acne, you're suicidal.
		Like, I'll take whatever the side effects are.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yo, this is nuts.
		Okay, no full year total, exact full year total, publicly available from major sources as data through September shows rapid growth but lacks a December closeout.
		True Veta data reports 12,203,009 GLP1 prescriptions from January 2018 to September 2025.
unidentified		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		12 million prescriptions is a lot.
		But I got to think that's way more today because in 2018, you're not getting a lot of people.
		Like I would like to see like a chart of when it kicks in.
		So it's 6.5% of all U.S. prescriptions up slightly from prior quarters.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And when your insurance companies, they should theoretically support it and pay for it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, definitely if you're morbidly obese, it'll prevent you from a lot of real problems of morbid obesity if you really get it together with this shit.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And then when there's a bunch of negative stuff about it, I'm like, did the lap band pay for this?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's all, look, you can definitely have side effects.
		Like Brian Simpson took it and he had horrible side effects.
		He had to get off of it.
		But it also, there's a lot of people that took it and they lost 100 pounds and they're way healthier than they would be before.
		It's just like the way Brigham Bueller from Waste to Well described, he says like it has to be taken conjunction with other things that keep your body from wasting away.
		And you should be doing strength.
		Like Peter Attiz talked about this as well.
		You should be doing strength training while you're doing it.
		Like because you're going to lose weight because you're at a calorie deficit.
		So you're going to lose muscle too and you're going to lose bone density.
		So you got to mitigate that.
		So there's an idea that they would combine them with, I think they did something with peptides with like an IGF-1 along with this and the two of them together keep you from wasting away.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was doing like that metformin for a minute and I was like, yeah, you lose muscle mass, but you're like, but also the effect of sugar, like, you know, so now I'll just take it every now and then when I eat like a lot of pasta or I want to have like a, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The metformin one's very polarizing.
		A lot of people really believe in it.
		A lot of people think it's a crazy idea.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, I'm pretty steady.
		I do like the NMN, NR, which is like the true niogen stuff.
		I mean, huberman is I'm just like, tell me what to do.
		NAC.
		I'm like, I'm sauna.
		And then also sometimes it's like the absence of things.
		Sometimes like, what are you doing?
		It's like, what are you not doing?
		Like, there's a point where you're just like, that person's an acquaintance, not a friend.
		Like, there's certain like, I feel like maybe it's when you become a mom, you have to also reassess like your emotional diet or your mental diet of like as well.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You just have to do that as an adult anyway.
unidentified		True.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, you're just going to want to problems all the time that are totally avoidable.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And they're not, these people just, they make the same fucking mistakes over and over and over.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They drag you into their bullshit.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And you don't want to change.
		Like you're like, you're addicted to adrenaline.
		I'm obsessed with all the addictions that aren't like a substance, drugs, alcohol.
		It's like, oh, you're a gambling addict just with women or just with men or like you're an adrenaline, a drama addict.
		Like I can't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like, do you, this is how I say it.
		Do you look forward to hanging out with that person?
		And if you don't, then it's a chore.
		If you look forward to hanging out with someone, like even if they're crazy, it's like, all right, it's okay.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, totally.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's okay.
		This is fun.
		It's all like, what are we all doing?
		We're all trying to get along together.
		And if one of us is not trying to do that, one of us is out for self.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, there's certain people that are just, they just can't get their shit together.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And desperate people do desperate stuff.
		And I think that with what we do, like, you know, it's interesting because some friendships, you know, they'll just be like, oh, come on the podcast.
		And it's like, we haven't hung out, though, either.
		Like, we don't text.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, comics, I think it becomes transactional.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It starts feeling weird.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Such a big part of what you've done, like for comedy is like, you know, that green room and having a space that's like not on camera.
		Like comics, I think, started going so crazy during the pandemic, myself being one of them, because it's like all of our conversations were monetized and for public consumption.
		We stopped just hanging out off camera.
unidentified		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And a lot of people were doing it remotely.
		So they were having podcasts remotely with their friends.
		That was like their only human interaction.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's so bad.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Nothing I did during the pandemic should have been filmed.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But like, you know, we also have to actively go out of our way to be off camera too, guys, you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, communities.
		Like, it's so important.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The people that don't think it's important just don't have it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you have it and you have a bunch of friends and you get to hang out and have fun together, it's like, oh, it's like a like, it's like stepping into a well of love.
unidentified		Like, that's a, oh, we're all here.
unidentified		What's up?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You also just like, like, you know, I don't have to tell you, you know, those comics that you like look up to so much of their legends.
		And then all of a sudden they just stop being funny.
		And you're like, how did this happen?
		You know, whether it's because they've, you know, incubated themselves against, you know, doing what normal people do on a daily basis and, you know, assistance.
		But they've surrounded themselves.
		They're not friends with comics.
		It's always that.
		It's like, how did that person sound?
		They're just not friends with comics.
		And they don't have someone humbling them constantly and pushing back and giving them shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And all the motivations that got them to be funny when they were younger have been eliminated because almost all of it is try to get extra attention from girls or from your friends.
		You're trying to be funny.
		You have no motivation to be funny anymore because everybody loves you and you're rich.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And being a comic is a lot, I think, of like having almost intentional contrarian Tourette's where you'll just say some shit that like merry, it's a crazy premise.
		Like sometimes stand-up is like saying something that isn't true and then proving it, you know?
		And to say some and have someone fight back with you.
		That's why I think comics, when people are like, why do comics talk about woke culture so much?
		It's like, because we see disagreeing as an interesting conversation.
		You guys see it as fascism.
		And like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Also, woke culture is trying to dictate what people can and can't say.
		And we can disagree.
		And you can't tell me what I can and can't say.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		My body, my choice, but not what your mouth does.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You can't just say, and you can't just start saying punch a Nazi.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, settle down.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You can figure out what a Nazi really is.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What are you saying?
		You're a Nazi because you don't think biological males should be competing with women in sports?
		Because I've heard that thrown out that way.
		Well, that's crazy talk.
		You don't get to define things like that.
		That's what you're doing when you're fighting against woke culture.
		You're fighting against nonsense that can't stand up to facts.
		And the thing about things that stand up to facts is people usually don't defend them violently.
		They usually discuss them clearly because it's obvious.
		This one, it's not backed up by facts.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So the opposition of it is like violent and angry.
		Like they want to stop debate.
		They want to stop conversation.
		This is what the problem with woke culture is.
		It's just an ideology like any other one.
		It's got its own rules.
		And because it's not based on logic, it has to be very angry.
		It has to scare you.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Did people look at hippies like this in the 70s?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They wanted to do that.
		That's how the CIA tricked the fucking hippies into doing all that Manson shit.
		That's what they were trying to do with the whole Charles Manson.
		Have you ever read that Tom?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Chaos?
		I have it.
		I've started it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Tom O'Neill's book.
		It's fucking incredible.
		Can't recommend it enough.
		Yeah, I know.
		But it's all about them discrediting.
		So they were terrified of the love movement.
		They were terrified of all these people that were taking acid and going to Woodstock.
		And they were like, Jesus Christ, we're losing the cultural battle.
		And so they got together with Charles Manson and gave him a bunch of acid and taught him how to mind fuck people.
		And this guy went out and killed a bunch of people and they blamed it on the hippies.
		They're like, oh my God, we got to make acid illegal.
		They made acid illegal like that year.
		And then the whole world went kooky.
		They shut down all the psychedelics.
		That was the sweeping Schedule I act of 1970.
		Like, when was the Manson murders?
		What year was the Manson murders?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And while you're finding that, I'm obsessed with CIA, the Philippines operation in the 50s, where they made it look like vampires sucked the blood of a bunch of the rebels.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen this?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did they really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've heard about this before.
unidentified		I forget about it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's so sick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		69.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So the Manson murders happened in 69.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In 1970, acid, mushrooms, DMT, all that stuff becomes illegal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Schedule one.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
		They threw water on a movement of people abandoning this path that they see their family on, their mother and their father, and they're not happy.
		And these people are dying unhappy.
		And they're getting heart attacks and they're dropping dead at 60.
		And these kids are saying, I don't want that in my life.
		I want to follow the Grateful Dead.
		I want to make art.
		I want to dance.
		I want to go to music festivals.
		I'll figure out how to live.
		And they were like, no fucking way.
		We don't want war.
		Make love, not war.
		What?
		Americans in the street saying love not war.
		Never before.
		Not 1947, right?
		Think about the end of World War II.
		You couldn't imagine Americans in the street, but in 1967, they're doing it.
		1967, they don't want to go to Vietnam.
		And they're saying no to war.
		And they're in the street and they're wearing flowers.
		They call them flower children.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So they had to turn them into monsters.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And so they got Manson.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Women had to wear bras again.
		Nightmare.
		All that stuff.
		Like, I got in a wormhole on the CIA and Hendrix and Cobain.
		I'm like, I just can't.
		There's certain things.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think they have their fingers in probably everything they can get their fingers in.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		All of it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And do they have to?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think they do.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like in the middle.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In some ways, but the problem is they have power that they probably shouldn't have.
		And then there's always going to be some crazy guy who keeps pushing things.
		And next thing you know, you're selling Coke in Nicaragua.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Dude, this guy.
		So it was, there was some like myth in the Philippines about this like vampire that would kill people, whatever it was.
		And then they, in the middle of the night, take these rebels that they need to deal with and they drain them of their blood.
		Sorry, puncture.
		I'm just obsessed with the guy that had to do the puncture marks.
		Like there's a guy who had to like do the vampire marks.
		And so that everybody woke up and these rebels that they were following, they saw that they had been attacked by vampires.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How did they kill them before they drained their blood?
		How many dudes did they whack too?
		That's kind of crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's so wild.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a great idea.
unidentified		So sick.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Imagine if you were a fucking soldier and you thought you were really in a blade movie.
		You thought this shit was real.
		Like if you're living in the Philippines and what, I mean, I don't know what their education was, right?
		I imagine it's not the best.
unidentified		Yep.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you're fighting vampires.
unidentified		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Or you think vampires are real.
		But imagine being the guy who was like, that's not real.
		The Philippines guy that's like, that's not real.
		And then I was like, oh, shit.
unidentified		That's crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Or the guy who's like, told ya.
unidentified		That's crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Just the Kurt Metzger who's like, told ya.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What year was this?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		The 50s?
unidentified		Wow.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's the Oshwaga.
		Was it called the Oshwaga?
		Was the name of the vampires they were scared of?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People are so nuts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They really are so.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But this is like when you read this stuff about the CIA and you're like, what are they doing now to make it look like this?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And it's really that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So the CIA combat CI war squad.
		So it says the Psy War squad set up an ambush along the trail used by the Hucks.
		When a Huck patrol came along the trail, the ambushers silently snatched the last man of the patrol.
		Their move unseen in the dark night.
		They punctured his neck with two holes, vampire fashion, held the body up by its heels, drained it of blood, and then put the corpse back on the trail.
		When the Hucks returned looking for the missing man and found their bloodless comrade, every member of the patrol believed that the Aswang had got him and that one of them would be next if they remained on that hill.
		When daylight came, the whole Huck squadron moved out of the vicinity.
		Wow, what a gangster.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		CIA trained squad of fire.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How many times did they do it?
		So sick.
		So, what's the number attack that they did it to?
		Apparently, only used once.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		To dislodge a squadron or something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So it was only one time that they did one guy?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		No, it was only one body.
unidentified		What a dope move.
unidentified		So sick.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's all you got to do to let the fear spread.
unidentified		I love that shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I would run off that fucking mountain.
		I'm not convinced vampires aren't real.
		I'm not convinced.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I see what I saw.
		I know what I saw.
		Even if it's an animal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think mathematically they can't exist.
		I think someone has actually done the numbers on this that mathematically wind up killing everyone.
		Oh, interesting.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It would be nothing but someone else researched it and said that it might not have even worked because they didn't have a vampire-like lore in the region.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		They had something else where they said that they fed on the business.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Who's this hater, Dork?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fed on fetuses of pregnant woman.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but either way, it's a monster that drained the guy of its blood by biting him in the neck.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But it's also like, there's not vampires.
		Oh, there's just the American CIA.
		Even worse.
		I'd rather there be fucking vampires, dude.
unidentified		Which description was from the CIA guy?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		They even tried to do it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We're all so fucked.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Which description was from the CIA guy?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		That one that you read was from Lansdale, and Lansdale is this guy who— Yeah, that guy's a vampire.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So he's the ad exec, turned CIA operative who masterminded the plot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What a fucking genius.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I love shit like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What a genius.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But there's something going on here right now that is that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Being in a room doing coke and pitching that idea.
unidentified		Okay, guys, I have an idea.
unidentified		Fucking vampires.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		You know that hole puncher that we use down here?
unidentified		I have an idea.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And for everyone, it was like, for a second.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You snatch the guy and you have to keep him from yelling.
		So you have to cover his mouth.
		He's got to be the last guy in the patrol.
		You have to snatch him so the guy right in front of him doesn't hear it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot of muffling.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Keep him from screaming.
		You got to hold on to his body.
		Keep him from fighting back and reaching for a weapon.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Don't you think they put something like a needle with a...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't sound like they did.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Not yet.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It sounds like they just held that guy and cut his fucking neck and then hung him up by his ankles.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		This is always my thing.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		If this is what we know, what do we not know?
unidentified		Oh, we don't know a lot.
unidentified		Anything.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We all know a lot.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Especially when crazy stuff comes out.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, if this is like Epstein list, whatever, if this is what they told us, it's so bad.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They did one vampire thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was the first time they ever did that shit.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		They had to practice a couple times.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A few times it didn't work at all.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		They had to practice blindfolded.
unidentified		They had to scream.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They had to kill everyone.
		Lansdale brags about an improvised bit of homemade voodoo he called the Eye of God.
		It was based on a World War II cywar tactic of learning the names of individual German officers and announcing on the battlefield over loudspeakers that they'd be the next to die if they didn't surrender.
		Holy shit.
		Lansdale's twist was to paint a cryptic symbol he called the Eye of God outside the homes of suspected Huck sympathizers.
		The mysterious presence of these malevolent eyes the next morning had a sharply sobering effect, wrote Lonsdale.
		That's crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it like Lansdale?
		Does stuff like that make you feel like people are monsters?
		Like we're like fake news.
		News has just always been like maybe this is the realest, truest news we've ever had.
		When you think about back then, it was all just gossip.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, I think they definitely controlled the news way better back then.
		And they can do things like the Gulf of Tonkin.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, where they just decide that they're going to pretend that we got attacked so that we can go to war.
		And who knows how many people died because of that?
		And that's crazy that they did it and got away with it.
		That's a real tactic.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think this is the crazy part is that he was an adwiz for all these companies and then he volunteered to go to the army and they recognized his special talents.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's like, I'm not getting enough evil done working for Nabisco.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		He's the pioneer of psychological.
unidentified		Wait, Started psyops.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		This is fascinating because this is like, I've worked, I sell jeans that cost $10 for $80.
		Like, trust me, I know how to trick people.
		Like, it's so fascinating when you're like, people went from working in an ad agency to sell products to like convincing people vampires were real.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fucking genius.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		I mean, it's like genius.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What a great idea.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And what's the genius thing now that we're being convinced of?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I bet they do some of the stuff just for fun to keep practicing.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Remember, like, charcoal toothpaste was a thing?
unidentified		I'm like, I use that every day.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Charcoal in your mouth.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In my mouth.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Works.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Works.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Because charcoal absorbs.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It cleans your teeth.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's really good at cleaning your teeth.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Where did we land on this root canals or bad thing?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about that.
		I'm meaning to talk to my orthodontist about it.
		I haven't had a chance.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm just trying to figure out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know a bunch of people that are thinking about getting their root canals removed and getting a post put in.
		I'm like, is that better?
		You're going to get a fucking drill bit.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But isn't it more about opening it and bacteria getting in and getting into your lining of your brain?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I can't.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I know, me too.
		I'm like, dude, I've been sucking on coconut oil and doing black seed oil in my mouth.
		It's like, tell me what to do.
		I'll start eating charcoal if that's what needs to happen.
		So this is, I don't know.
		But like, yeah, what are the things that we're kind of like falling for right now or being scared of?
		Like, I feel like there are a lot of tests, like, drone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, what are the things that are bothering us that we don't know about?
		Like the Iridium girls?
		Like, what about Wi-Fi?
		What if we find out that Wi-Fi is making us less and less in tune with our life or less in tune with our environment or dulls a certain part of your brain?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I think with or without the like beams harming us, the phone is doing that anyway, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Has there been any long-term studies on sci-fi or excuse me, cell phone sci-fi, cell phone signals on their interference with things other than bees?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because I know they do interfere with bees.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Well, isn't that, was that confirmed?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Because it also could have been fertilizer.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think there's something, there's a reason why they believe that it has an impact.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is the reason why they think cell phone signals have an impact?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		An impact on bees?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think that's not pseudoscience.
		I think there's a real reason for believing that.
		Something about how they navigate and what they do, that those signals that are in the air with them could fuck them up.
unidentified		I don't understand.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I am on, I have a lot of Wi-Fi in my house and I have bees fucking everywhere.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		But yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That may be why.
unidentified		They're like, yeah, yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it's like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Maybe it's like 11 when they turn on the sirens.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		When I was pregnant, I was listening to like whale sounds a lot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's so crazy.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Because when you have a baby and you, it's like an amphibian.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		It's breathing fluid, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's smart.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And then I was like, but what if these whales are like fighting?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, I don't know what they're saying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're saying a bunch of races.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, cell phone signals can affect bees, causing behavioral changes like increased agitation and worker piping, an alarm sound indicating disturbance.
		Those sensationalized claims linking them directly to mass colony collapse are not fully supported by science.
		Studies show bees are sensitive to the electromagnetic fields from active phones disrupting their normal communication and potentially leading to disorientation.
		So here's the thing.
		Do we know if it affects us?
		Like, we don't really know.
		I mean, there's a lot of people that are, oh, EMF man.
		And there's a lot of people who are like, oh, it's all bullshit.
		But what is the reality?
		Do we really know?
		And isn't all this stuff fairly recent?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, there is, Jamie, you can find this, and I won't to corroborate it because I won't know the exact year, but T-Mobile had put aside like a lot of money for possible lawsuits with all this stuff.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		So I did the, I did, you know, I always have some weird side thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		When you made a documentary on violence.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		On Calcio Historico with Pete Berg, by the way.
		And I still want to go.
		I still want to go.
		It's in Florida.
		It's every June.
		When you want to go to see Calcius Dorco?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That would be so good.
		That would be so sick.
		Because it's not trained fighters.
		It's just like butchers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, those guys are trained.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I mean, they're not like professional.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, oh, I don't know about that.
unidentified		Oh, really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Some of them look like they absolutely knew how to fight.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Agreed.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		They train all year to do this, but they're not like- Is that sure?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Are you sure?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They don't have any MMA fights or anything?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm watching some of those guys.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, that guy looks like he's fought.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		They're all training all year for this thing, but I think they have other jobs like professionally.
		It's kind of like, and it's okay.
		But yeah, they all look like they're like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But not all of them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just like a few guys look like ringers.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		When I'm watching it, I'm watching these guys duke it out.
		Some guys look like they belong there, and other guys look like that's an MMA fighter.
		That's a guy who's throwing leg kicks.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And they say that crime goes down in the region to zero during that month.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, why am I opposed to that when I'm not opposed to MMA?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Oh, yeah.
		I mean, it probably just will annoy you to watch people so bad at this getting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, no, it's not even that.
		It's just like, I worry that we're moving in a direction where violence is team violence.
		Team violence like that leads to fucking war.
		Like individual violence is a one-on-one person.
		It's your skills against his skills, your mind against his mind, your will, how well you've prepared, the discipline you showed in training, your IQ in terms of fighting IQ.
		That's a fascinating contest to me.
		But when you see teams of dudes running at each other and fucking each other up like that, to me is like, what are you asking for?
		Okay, what are you getting people excited about?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		And what fascinates me about it is what we were talking about earlier with the AI and everything of like knowing what humans need in order to stay, whether it's satiated, you know, bridled in some way of like, if AI takes away all the hard things or whatever, like with a whack-a-mole of what are people going to start doing, you know, when they don't have, like, if AI is like, this is too crazy, you guys are fighting too much.
		It's like, but if we're born to kind of fight and need take track, that's why we're going to have to integrate.
		Yeah, merge.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Put that chip in your brain, Whitney.
unidentified		Look.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We're all going to have to.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I think I have worse things in my brain.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like we're all saying, like, oh, I don't want email.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Everybody has an email.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		We've already merged with our phones.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I mean, when I leave my phone, I feel it in my gut.
unidentified		100%.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, where is it?
unidentified		100%.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, there's times that I'm like driving home and I'm like, I've completely atrophied.
		Like, I don't even have peripheral vision.
		I don't have muscle memory of how to get home.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		You forgot.
		You forgot how to navigate LA.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Like, we are a unit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you try to go through LA and you don't have a navigation system now, you're fucked.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		They call photos memories because your memories are in there.
		They're not in your head.
		It's like I look with memories and I'm like, oh, I forgot about that.
		Because it's in here.
		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You literally don't even remember.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then you see the picture and now you remember.
unidentified		Yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		They do like a year ago today.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, oh, right.
unidentified		Right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I didn't log that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you ever have a friend tell you a story and you're like, oh, I fucking forgot about that trip.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
unidentified		It's weird.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like you just didn't have it accessible.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		How did I delete that?
unidentified		You deleted it.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Why did I delete it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You got no room.
		There's too many things.
		Especially a person like you who's constantly talking to people, constantly going to different places.
		Like, it's like too much novel shit getting into your head.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Too many novel stories, novel conversations.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, oh, wow.
unidentified		Oh, whoa.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you know?
		Did you do this?
		And it's like, after a while, your hard drive's like, bitch, we're bleeding out.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Too much.
		And I'm like, why do I remember every lyric to every R. Kelly song, but I cannot remember what happened last week.
		It's funny.
unidentified		Bitch, I wish you would.
unidentified		Do you remember America?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen America?
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to bring you back to America.
unidentified		America.
		Doesn't he say like?
		Did you get your shots?
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Did you get your shots?
		Did you get your vaccine?
		It's just like they're like, let's fill out your paper.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		You want to come to America with Robert or something?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was fucking amazing.
unidentified		Amazing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We won't, we'll play this just for us, and we'll end this with that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let me hear that part.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		That's the other thing.
		It's like extreme, extreme left people.
		They'll be like, America's full of fascist Nazis, but let everyone in.
		Come here.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It's technically not a release song, but I don't know if history is.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's like on YouTube.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We'll wrap it up.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Did you get your shots?
unidentified		With shots.
unidentified		I love you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		At the comedy mothership all weekend, sold out.
		Sorry, bitches.
		Here we go.
whitney cummings ▲ ● ▼		Do you have your passport?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		You want to wrap up?
unidentified		Did you get your passport?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We'll wrap it up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Now you play it now.

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