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Jan. 6, 2026 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #2434 - Kurt Metzger
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kurt metzger
It's John Lilly Awareness Day.
joe rogan
Is the Carhartt specific time period appropriate?
kurt metzger
No?
It's supposed to be like a boiler suit.
But it didn't arrive.
joe rogan
What is a boiler suit?
kurt metzger
Like a coverall.
joe rogan
Oh, like something would wear in the boiler room?
kurt metzger
Yeah, but the best kind to get, I would have done a mashup.
Now, see, here he's got kind of a pleather jumpsuit.
He's got a lot of great looks.
joe rogan
That guy was out there.
kurt metzger
Two diamond studs.
Oh, let me take off my John C. Lilly glasses.
Oh, yeah.
He invented the isolation goon tank.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
kurt metzger
You go in there and go and it's like you're in space, dude.
joe rogan
My friend actually went in his tank and did ketamine with him before he went in his tank.
kurt metzger
Who?
joe rogan
Todd McCormick.
kurt metzger
What happened?
joe rogan
John Lilly shot him up with an intramuscular shot of ketamine before he went into the tank.
He's like, this is what I do.
You want to do it?
He's like, okay, sure.
kurt metzger
John Lilly's like, hey, do you want to watch my parents fucking to conceive me?
I like to do that in this tank.
joe rogan
Let's go back in time.
kurt metzger
I like to go into the fucking, what do they call that Buddhist thing where you go and watch your parents fuck?
joe rogan
Is that a real thing?
kurt metzger
Yeah, you know, in this, I forget the afterlife, their whole mapping, the afterlife thing.
joe rogan
But can they do it like with meditation or something?
Is that what you're saying?
unidentified
Yeah, but they say... If you could choose to do that...
kurt metzger
What?
joe rogan
If you could go back in time and watch something, but only one thing, and that thing is your parents fucking.
You could be back in 1976 or whenever it was you were born.
kurt metzger
So what do I get out of that then?
joe rogan
Nothing.
kurt metzger
Just our research.
Valuable research.
joe rogan
You only get one trip back in time.
Everybody gets a trip back in time to see what it's like.
But that's the only thing you get to say.
kurt metzger
Sounds like Tibetan Buddhism, what you're describing to me.
Pretty sure that's what, what do they call it when you go, the place you go to watch your parents fuck?
Jamie, aren't you a Buddhist?
The Bodak?
It's not called that.
How you like that Nikki Minaj, huh?
Really.
What about her?
We've been covering TPUSA all week.
joe rogan
Okay, you're deep in the woods.
I'm not.
I stay out of that.
It seems like...
unidentified
Why?
kurt metzger
It's so great.
joe rogan
Because it seems like the right wing of this country is in some sort of a weird gang war.
kurt metzger
There never was a fucking United thing.
it was a bunch of people needing some shit done that didn't get done and now they're upset about it.
And so, the thought, so, because here's the thing.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of people scrambling to be in control of the narrative, too.
kurt metzger
So polymarket dudes have some network.
There's also, like the show I sold called The Cutout, they do these cutout things where it's like you pay a company to put up.
Remember when Elon showed what countries all the tweets are coming from?
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
Okay.
Why the fuck are Indians and Sri Lankans tweeting about Israel-Palestine shit, right?
Well, it's because there's these bounties they put up, and you can get invited to like a circle.
Remember when you would show me those things people would get of like, hey, say this shit and we'll give this money?
Well, now there's a bounty system.
It's on Jimmy's channel.
It's fucking amazing.
So all these, so a bunch of people that I would watch them just like flip and say a thing like it's their job to say it.
It was their job, but they're trying to hit a certain amount of engagement and then you get like 50 grand.
I can't remember the name of the guy that pointed out, but it's really good fucking work.
Oh, shit, I should have looked up.
joe rogan
So it's not just bots.
kurt metzger
The bardo.
joe rogan
Bardo of Becoming.
Tibetan teaching after death consciousness passes through several bardos culminating in the bardo of becoming where karmic visions of one's next life arise.
During this phase, there are increasingly frequent flashes of the environment, parents, and circumstances in which one will be conceived, and one is drawn towards these as a kind of refuge or new home.
That's interesting, but not as interesting as the influencers.
jamie vernon
Thank you, Perplexity.
kurt metzger
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Thank you to our sponsor, Perplexity.
kurt metzger
You can always tell who's getting paid to say things because they'll use specific phrases.
Well, it sounds like a fair.
I thought it was very interesting and informative.
I'd like to learn if you have a brochure.
joe rogan
How many people are doing that?
This is the thing.
The conversation has always been like other countries are doing it.
And then they have bots and fake accounts, which is definitely true as well.
But it seems like also they're paying people to say things.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that seem like they're doing it like it's a job.
kurt metzger
Me assuming someone either is blackmailed or MK Ultra is me being kind of positive because really a lot of these people are just sexy shit that are going for a bounty.
So if you were MK Ultra, that's like kind of cooler than that, I think.
joe rogan
And you think some of them can just sort of justify that bounty?
You know, whatever country's paying it, you know, hey, you know, they have their own.
kurt metzger
It's specific like billionaires and shit, paying.
joe rogan
And it works both ways, I'm sure.
I'm sure anti-Israel stuff, people being paid a bounty, don't you think?
Don't you think there's certain people involved in that as well that are probably being paid?
It's from all around.
kurt metzger
That crime that got done in Gaza, and they're done now, so everybody can relax.
They got it done.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, it's done.
So watch Owen Finkelstein.
He'll explain it to you.
But so that crime that's done now, the reason that the frantic buying up of the media by Larry, the shadow president Larry Ellison, is because they lost the next generation of trauma-controlled fucking mind slaves because on TikTok, these psychopaths bragged about crimes they did to people.
And all the young Zoomies are on there, including in America where we were force-fed woke bullshit by the oligarchs who are now suddenly horrified because they didn't think it would blow back, that their kids would absorb that crap.
Guess who has not had woke programming for the last 12 years?
Israel.
So you can tell who's involved with the propaganda now because they have no concept of the sensitivities of these gender blobs that were made in this country.
So now they lost the next generation.
So now they're frantically buying TikTok.
They're putting Barry Weiss in charge of fucking.
That's going to work out great.
I'll bet she's already out based on the town hall alone that we covered.
One of the worst things I've ever seen.
joe rogan
I didn't see it.
kurt metzger
Well, you're lucky, but we cover it all.
joe rogan
I'm trying to stay out of most of this stuff because every time I talk to you, I get dragged in and I get paranoid and anxiety.
kurt metzger
Oh, yeah.
No, you could be killed.
I mean, you saw what happened to Charlie Kirk.
Oh, no, you easily could be killed.
And, you know, yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
Does Jimmy worry about that?
kurt metzger
Jimmy got his phone hacked with Pegasus that time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
He got the Bohemian Grove thing is hilarious.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
Because it's so funny because you could tell he's one of 12 kids because he feels left out of shit still in a way with things.
It's like, well, I don't know that thing.
I'm like, well, you got an opportunity.
And then you brought that Nixon joke about Bohemian Grove.
You know the Nixon quote?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
He goes, you heard that quote, right?
And they go, no.
They'd not heard it.
joe rogan
They'd not.
Come on.
kurt metzger
And he said it, and then they didn't laugh.
Nobody laughed.
joe rogan
Let's play the recording of Nixon saying it because it's even funnier.
Hey, we're back.
We've got an issue.
kurt metzger
What happened?
joe rogan
Two podcasts in a row.
The podcast.
Yeah, we got a software glitch.
What were we just talking about?
kurt metzger
An audio, but he's a sweet audio.
joe rogan
In his own voice.
The fuckiest damn thing I've ever seen.
kurt metzger
From Todd, I'm not hot.
The San Francisco crowd.
joe rogan
So I think there's always been places where dudes go to get their freak on.
The Lost Nixon tapes.
Here it is.
During discussion with Heidelman and Kissinger about youth conference, annual youth conference, the subject turned to homosexuality and society.
kurt metzger
As it always does.
joe rogan
Just give me some of this.
jamie vernon
Let me make sure it's the right one, though.
I don't know if it is.
joe rogan
I mean, it says gays are born that way?
No, this seems different.
Oh, well, Nixon was progressive.
Gays are born.
kurt metzger
He's a real lady Guga.
joe rogan
You know the whole Nixon getting booted from the White House story, right?
Yeah, I'm going to say that.
kurt metzger
Sake-ass Bob Woodward, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
How crazy is that?
kurt metzger
Wow, you're Nave Lintel and your first big break is the Watergate.
joe rogan
How crazy is that story?
It's a complete story.
kurt metzger
It's the template for all of the media for how long, dude.
jamie vernon
Here it is.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
President Richard.
Boy It's just terrible Now guess what From time to time.
That quote, it's the most faggy, goddamn thing you could ever imagine.
kurt metzger
You know, it's funny.
Sir Cecil Rhodes, he kept saying he wanted to make bundles of men, you know, like a bundle of sticks of men in his round tables.
You know, a bundle of sticks is, of course, a faggot.
That's not the slur.
But the goal of Cecil Rose was to create secret faggots around the world.
joe rogan
Secret ones.
kurt metzger
Yeah, bundles of men, fraternal organizations.
The names don't matter if you're a dumb group, whatever.
Everybody's in a stupid fucking Knights of the Order of some gay shit, right?
joe rogan
Skull and bones.
kurt metzger
Yeah, and look, when he's saying the F slur like that, I don't think he just means a little bit of man-on-man action.
I think he's talking about the ceremonies and the dress-up.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, the dress-up, the whole Renaissance fair thing.
kurt metzger
Yeah, like that owl thing.
Like, never mind anything you heard they did, okay?
That's just nonsense talk.
But just the things you know they did.
joe rogan
The video.
Why are they doing that?
The video that Alex Jones got is, and he did it, by the way, back with John Ronson, back when Alex Jones was.
kurt metzger
Well, I know John Wack.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
So Alex Jones and John Ronson sneak into Bohemian Grove.
Alex Jones filmed them.
Everybody was like, he's crazy.
He's a kook.
He's filming them doing this fucking wacky ceremony in front of Molech the owl god.
kurt metzger
No, well, it's not Molech.
joe rogan
It isn't?
kurt metzger
No.
What is the owl?
I mean, first of all, from what I understand, Molech is a type of sacrifice usually to Baal, which is like a rich man.
joe rogan
Well, I thought that owl, the big owl, was not Molech at.
kurt metzger
Oh, Molech.
joe rogan
Which one's owl?
Molech.
kurt metzger
I heard the owl is called Care, like that cremation of care.
But it's supposed to be the Artemis owl, from what I understand.
Or Athena, Athena Artemis, the same thing.
joe rogan
Doesn't have a specific name, but it's a symbol of Minerva, the Roman goddess of wisdom, representing the club's values.
That's what they say.
kurt metzger
Yeah, the club's values are.
Whenever they say wisdom, that means magic shit.
joe rogan
Can I see an image of what that statue, large owl statue, looks like?
kurt metzger
Oh, they make a big deal about misidentifying it as Moloch.
joe rogan
Oh, man, that is weird as fuck.
Okay, so what does Moloch look like?
Just pull that up.
Let's find out what Molech looks like.
kurt metzger
I think now they no longer think Moloch was an actual god, and they think it was a type of sacrifice.
joe rogan
An ancient Christian.
Oh, so Molech?
It was like a bull.
kurt metzger
That's Baal.
I mean, well, there's a bunch of Baales.
There's Baal, Hadad, Baal, Amon.
joe rogan
Okay, but which is, is Molech and Baal connected?
Because there were all these Moloch pictures.
kurt metzger
So the baby, okay, so the sacrifice itself, from what I understand, and you probably have somebody on that could correct it, but at this point, they kind of think, because it only says MLK in the original writing, so it's a type of sacrifice to the bull god.
You understand?
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
It's a Molech sacrifice.
So you get material gain for your firstborn.
Like, that's a Molech.
joe rogan
Oh, God, look at this one.
kurt metzger
I think that's what it is.
joe rogan
Look at this one.
The statue of men that's stuffed with men.
kurt metzger
What's the big deal?
We do that.
Tech people do that.
Burning Man.
We commemorate it.
Yo, can't rich old fruits have a burning man of their own?
joe rogan
They already do.
It's called Burning Man.
kurt metzger
Yeah, it's called just blowing people up.
joe rogan
Canaanite deity associated in biblical sources with the practice of child sacrifice.
It derives from combining the consonants of the Hebrew melech, king, and the vowels boshet, shame.
The later often being used in the Old Testament as a variant name for the popular god Baal.
So maybe they're calling it, was he calling it Molech?
Because that's how Alex Jones is referring to it.
Was it because it was a child sacrifice?
kurt metzger
Maybe.
And also keep in mind, just because they, it's an owl or whatever, people that do goofy pagan shit.
You got to think about like, did he change his name every time he does a crime?
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
That's how these gods work.
So it'll be like, no, his name's not that.
It's this other thing.
And you're like, wait, okay.
And so you can mix and match them.
It's called alchemy.
You could grind them in their constituents and mix and match them all kinds of great ways.
joe rogan
That being said, they're doing something weird.
They're wearing robes.
They're chanting and they're carrying a bundle of sticks that's supposed to represent a body or something like that.
kurt metzger
And then they're going to talk about it.
joe rogan
And they're burning an effigy.
The whole thing is fucking bizarre.
If somebody invited me to that, and then that's what we went and did, I would never hang out with them again.
I'd be like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
kurt metzger
What if you have to make a decision to be a fucking mass murderer on the order of any mass murder they told you is bad?
And so you need to cremate your care.
joe rogan
Or you want to sell natural gas and get that pipeline opened up.
kurt metzger
Yeah, and I want to burn my dull care about the bad things I'm doing away because I can't not do it.
I'll be killed.
joe rogan
Also, you want to be compromised because that's how you do business.
kurt metzger
That's how I do business.
That's how I met my dolphin wife, Shoshona Rothin.
I know she looks young, but she's of age.
joe rogan
My favorite part about the Lily story is the experiments that the lady was doing with the dolphins when she was living in the house with them, and she had to jerk them off.
Otherwise, they wouldn't pay attention.
And people found out about it and they shut the science down.
kurt metzger
It made the dolphin more complete.
Peter, he had a name show.
It's Peter the Dolphin, and he took his own life after.
joe rogan
He took his own life.
kurt metzger
Peter the Dolphin killed himself.
unidentified
How did he do that?
kurt metzger
It's really dumb and obvious, but I didn't guess what it was.
joe rogan
Did he just inhale all the water?
kurt metzger
Yeah, he just drowned himself.
I thought he jumped out of the water.
It's like a big fan or something.
joe rogan
I couldn't figure out how they do it, but he tied C4 to himself and just flipped over into the crowd.
kurt metzger
Bruce has told me about how they would drain dolphin jihadis.
joe rogan
Oh, we had dolphin jihadis.
kurt metzger
We drained dolphin jihadis.
joe rogan
We had dolphin kamikazes.
We took dolphins.
We love you.
Hey, I'm going to just give you a little collar.
Go find the Russians.
kurt metzger
Let me tell you if you want to demoralize, because I texted you some real dolphin info.
unidentified
You did?
kurt metzger
I know.
joe rogan
The thing is, when you text me, you text me so much, I can't read it all.
It's not possible.
kurt metzger
Well, that's good because this is going to be a real treat for you to hear.
joe rogan
I like how you're still going with the old school white background on your texts.
kurt metzger
Why?
Do you think I should change it?
unidentified
Nope.
joe rogan
Nope.
kurt metzger
All right.
joe rogan
You'd be you.
kurt metzger
Is it a bad background?
Okay, so, you know, they always say dolphins are a little amorous, is the term they use in dolphin handling.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
I'm allowed to talk about this as long as I change the name of the person and the dolphin.
I was told.
joe rogan
Oh, you told me.
Oh, you did send me that.
That's right.
kurt metzger
Okay, because I was like, you know, they always say dolphins are.
joe rogan
Yeah, don't say your friend's name, but tell the story because it's crazy.
kurt metzger
Yeah, like I always feel like they're smearing dolphins, like how we did to a great man, Saddam Hussein.
Remember, we smeared that guy and he was the best president of Iraq they've ever had?
joe rogan
Well, what about Gaddafi?
kurt metzger
I don't even want to bring that one up because that's really depressing.
joe rogan
That's a crazy one.
kurt metzger
The most prosperous country in all of Africa.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
Screwed up three other countries when Unreal.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a great clip of Russell Crowe explaining all the things Gaddafi did on this podcast, explaining how we're supposed to think Gaddafi's the bad guy.
kurt metzger
He's right.
He's exactly right.
Rosencrow was dead on with that.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, 100%.
kurt metzger
So I'm like, maybe dolphins are just another Gaddafi.
joe rogan
Gaddafi gave everyone free education.
Everyone, when they reached a certain age, got a home.
If you had a specific skill, they would send you to another university and pay for it wherever they had to send you.
kurt metzger
Authoritarian.
joe rogan
Well, that too.
But so are we.
Shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up.
It's all pretend.
kurt metzger
Well, I hate to bring it up, but ISIS is in charge of Syria now, even while morons will tell you that ISIS is attacking Christians in Nigeria.
joe rogan
Listen.
kurt metzger
Is everybody retarded?
joe rogan
You're always a glass half empty.
At least Netanyahu got a pardon.
kurt metzger
Did he?
From who?
Trump?
joe rogan
Trump.
kurt metzger
How could Trump pardon Netanyahu for how does that work?
joe rogan
I don't know.
You ask me.
kurt metzger
Okay.
joe rogan
Someone should cue the America fuck yeah music right now.
kurt metzger
Oh, we're bombing Venezuela too, by the way.
joe rogan
Just hey, hey, dude, no disinformation.
Drone bombing.
kurt metzger
We're not even there.
No, we got grant.
We reported yesterday.
We got ground people going.
joe rogan
Netanyahu says Trump sent with this non-Israeli to receive Israel Prize.
Oh, Trump got a prize.
The first non-Israeli announces Trump will be the first non-Israeli to receive Israel Prize for tremendous contributions.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well, they should give him a fucking prize.
joe rogan
You got to make deals.
You want to make omelets?
You got to crack a few eggs.
kurt metzger
There's no omelette.
joe rogan
I like the prize.
Nobody gets it.
But Israelis, I want to be the first.
kurt metzger
There's no omelette ever coming whenever someone says.
joe rogan
What did he pardon Netanyahu for?
I didn't know that Netanyahu was in trouble.
kurt metzger
I knew he was not to be overthrown before October 7th happened in the tragic.
joe rogan
Let that go.
But right here.
kurt metzger
But what are we pardoning him for here then?
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
kurt metzger
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
kurt metzger
I wonder if there's anything in it blacked out in the Epstein thing.
Didn't know this.
jamie vernon
This says now the pardon has been.
They're disputing it.
joe rogan
Oh, they're arguing already.
jamie vernon
Israel's president denies telling Trump a Netanyahu pardon is, quote, on its way.
kurt metzger
But he's not an American citizen, is he?
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
Hold on a second.
Say that again.
Say this to him again.
Israel's president denies telling Trump a Netanyahu pardon is on his way.
So what does that mean?
So Netanyahu denies saying that to Trump, is what it sounds like.
Doesn't it sound like that?
jamie vernon
Isaac Herzog.
joe rogan
Oh, Isaac Herzog.
Well, wait a minute.
Oh, the prime minister.
So they have prime minister and a president.
Okay.
I'm so ignorant.
Swiftly denied President Trump's claim on Monday that he had told U.S. President he would pardon Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
What is that saying?
I think he will, Trump said, when asked if Netanyahu would get a pardon.
How do you not?
He's a wartime prime minister who's a hero.
How do you not give a pardon?
unidentified
Oh, wow.
kurt metzger
He's going to pull his ass out of the fryer too.
joe rogan
I think what he's saying is that he would get a pardon from the president of Israel.
That's what I think he's saying.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
So this is why it's confusing to people.
kurt metzger
Half of Israel hates that motherfucker, by the way.
Okay.
And he was about to be overthrown.
joe rogan
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joe rogan
Well, there were certainly large protests in the street the day before October 7th happened.
Is it true that there was a stand down on October 7th?
kurt metzger
The IDF people were talking about the day.
It's on Jimmy Show.
joe rogan
I'm asking you, so the people that don't know what the fuck we're talking about.
kurt metzger
They won't believe me.
They'll say John Lilly's alive.
joe rogan
Why don't you say it?
kurt metzger
They'll say John Lilly's a dolphin fucking liar.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
They wouldn't say that.
They wouldn't say that.
What are you looking up?
kurt metzger
Oh, because we got into this because I was going to tell you the truth about dolphins.
joe rogan
Okay.
kurt metzger
A dolphin-like, a Netanyahu-like fish.
Madam.
joe rogan
Oh, the dolphin experience.
kurt metzger
Because this is going to, this is like.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
This is more important things than a measly genocide.
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
kurt metzger
So I asked if they're just marrying dolphins, right?
unidentified
Right.
kurt metzger
So she said, what they say about dolphin rape, it's true.
All caps.
They are very sexual animals and even masturbate.
Young males can get very horny and it's like they go into a trance.
For some reason, they like knees.
So I was doing a program with a very nice family and I saw Flippy, name changed, drop to the lady's knees and start buzzing on them.
That's echolocation.
So groom your knees with their echolocation abilities.
joe rogan
Whoa.
kurt metzger
So I'm like, fucking great.
That's all caps.
So I follow protocol and put myself in between the dolphin and the guests and ask them to get out of the water.
So you understand there's a protocol in place for when Flippy starts echolocating your knees.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
kurt metzger
Flippy then starts circling me fast with his dick out, hooking my leg and dragging me into deep water.
As he's doing it, it literally looks like the scene in Jaws where the shark's hitting the girl.
She's like whipping around and she's jerking around and you can't see what's happening under the water.
Obviously, I'm fucking terrified and I'm trying to play it off to the guests like everything is fine.
So I'm laughing and saying, you know how dogs get a lot a little rough when they play?
joe rogan
That's what she's saying to the guests.
kurt metzger
She's whipping like Jaws like what's like a dog.
Okay, that's protocol, by the way.
So I guess good work.
Then my shoes come off and start floating and the guests try to get back in the water to get my shoes for me and I yell, no mouth.
I managed to get away and walk out only mental scars.
Thank God all cabs.
I was wearing a wet.
Thank God I was wearing a wetsuit.
I would have felt that slimy dick hooking my legs.
It's like a Japanese anime hanging out with dolphins.
joe rogan
But you know what?
Look, it's terrible, but they're prisoners and they didn't do anything wrong.
That's what's weird.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well, no court would convict them.
That's what I, John C. Lilly.
joe rogan
They're just dolphins.
Why are they in prison?
They're a lot like they just got unlucky.
They're basically dolphin slaves.
kurt metzger
Yeah, they're kind of like the dogs of the sea, I think.
I don't think they're like human intelligence.
Sounds like they're like a little.
joe rogan
They have a cerebral cortex that's 40% larger than a human being.
They have language and dialects.
We don't even understand what their language is, but they can understand ours.
Like they can learn things.
kurt metzger
Look, I'm trying to defend dolphins from the rape charges here.
joe rogan
If you want to say it's their fucking thing, well, do you know what else they do that's really awful?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They kill the babies.
Yeah.
Infantricide in dolphins is really common to the point that it makes dolphin females promiscuous because the female tries to mate with as many men as possible so that the men won't kill her babies.
kurt metzger
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Because they don't know if it's theirs.
kurt metzger
It's a real 60s animal, you know.
They do things their own way.
unidentified
They dolphins.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
kurt metzger
Hey, man, you don't get dolphins.
joe rogan
They just don't change their environment, so we don't think of them as intelligent, but they're fucking smart as shit.
kurt metzger
Well, you know the thing of pushing people on the shore that are like drowning?
joe rogan
That's bullshit?
kurt metzger
No, they will, but it's not like they're saving you.
It's like, why don't you get your trash out of my space, please?
Y'all don't want sharks here as old as you take your shit back.
joe rogan
Who was it that had that theory about sharks?
And I think he's right.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
He was like, sharks are not just targeting people because they're hungry.
They're targeting people because they're pissed off that people in their water and they're getting in the way of their fishing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're getting in the way of their eating seals.
kurt metzger
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
They're pissed off.
They're not supposed to be there, so they just bite you.
Like, get the fuck out of here.
That's part of it.
kurt metzger
A little nibble from a shark is probably a real strong message.
joe rogan
They just lost a lady in Santa Cruz, triathlete.
She was with a whole group of people that were swimming, and someone saw her get taken.
Someone saw this shark breach the water with a human body in their mouth, and then she was gone.
And then they just found her remains yesterday.
But Santa Cruz, like that whole coastline, is filled with great whites.
There's great whites all over the place out there.
I think they breed outside of San Francisco.
kurt metzger
I mean, I never surfed, so I never.
unidentified
Fuck that.
joe rogan
Yeah, like fuck swimming in the ocean and rolling the dice that a monster doesn't decide to just snap you in half.
kurt metzger
It's just the worst way to get grabbed.
Just like not in your environment.
joe rogan
It must be so terrible.
You're so weak and slow there in the ocean.
You're so helpless.
kurt metzger
But you know what?
Let's see a shark take me up here.
I'll bet I could take him.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
kurt metzger
Not so tough.
joe rogan
Zero shark attacks on the shore.
Remember that Saturday Night Live sketch, Land Shark?
That was hilarious.
It was so stupid.
The shark would just knock on your door.
unidentified
Land shark.
joe rogan
It was so silly.
Saturday Night Live used to have some great sketches, man.
Used to be so silly.
I haven't watched it in forever.
kurt metzger
You know what I wish I could find is, and you can't get it.
It's like not up anywhere.
But the one with Norm is who's the most grizzled?
It was Norm McDonald, that country singer that Tom Sagura always says is a serial killer.
Who was very good in the sketch?
joe rogan
Garth Brooks.
kurt metzger
Garth Brooks.
And it was like, he's like, and Robert Duvall.
Okay.
And it was just like a game show and they have you give grizzled answers.
It was funny as shit, dude.
unidentified
Really?
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, that's funny.
kurt metzger
And Robert Duvall gave the most grizzled answers.
Oh, you found it.
joe rogan
Is this a real show?
kurt metzger
Yo, this is one of my favorite.
Wow.
I was trying to find it not even that long ago, dude.
joe rogan
Let me hear some of this.
Can I hear it?
That's great.
kurt metzger
That's on Reddit.
joe rogan
That was very busy.
kurt metzger
I could never find it.
joe rogan
That's very funny.
That's a good sketch.
kurt metzger
Anyway, what's his name again?
Garth Brooks?
unidentified
Garth Brooks.
kurt metzger
Well, he's a man of a million faces.
joe rogan
That's not Garth Brooks.
kurt metzger
Yeah, it was Garth Brooks.
unidentified
No.
kurt metzger
Am I wrong?
That was Garth Brooks and Robert.
joe rogan
Nah.
Was it?
kurt metzger
Yeah, it was Garth Brooks.
joe rogan
Was it really?
Garth Brooks in makeup?
kurt metzger
Yeah.
That was Garth Brooks.
Yeah, you don't even recognize him.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
I didn't recognize him at all.
Let me see that again.
Maybe that's how he kills people.
He dresses up like that, dude.
That does not look like Garth Brooks.
That's crazy.
kurt metzger
It was a while ago.
joe rogan
He's kind of bigger now.
He's been enjoying that good life.
You know what I'm saying?
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you know people are repeating Tom's idea, that joke about Garth Brooks being a serial killer as if it's like true fact?
kurt metzger
Yeah, well, it is the weirdest thing, but I would say don't focus too much on one person having an alter ego.
Nikki Minaj has that.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the Chris Gaines thing was nuts.
In the middle of being the biggest superstar in country music, he decides he's going to be emo and wear a wig.
Yeah, I remember change his name and let everybody know he's doing it.
It's just at least Stephen King, when he wrote his like Richard The Bachmann books.
Yeah, at least he just said, listen, I'm writing too many books for people to buy.
I'm going to write them under a different name.
That's how crazy he was.
That's what cocaine will do to you.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
Yes, it will.
joe rogan
Those are the good days.
kurt metzger
So I sent this to whatever.
I was looking up.
So have you ever heard when Nikki Minaj would talk about their fucking fixated on Nikki Minaj?
No, because of the alter ego thing.
joe rogan
Oh, she's got an alter ego?
kurt metzger
Let me raise my skeleton.
Yeah, his name Roman.
Roman is a crazy boy who lives inside me who says the things she doesn't want to say.
He threatens to peep people and he's violent.
I asked him to leave, but he can't.
Whoa.
She also notes he was born just a few months ago and born out of rage.
This is like in 2010.
His last name is Zolansky.
joe rogan
Roman Zolansky?
An angry, outspoken, often homosexual British character who delivers raw, aggressive verses featured heavily in Pink Friday, Roman Reloaded.
kurt metzger
Right.
Then the Harajuku Barbie, which is the dolphin.
joe rogan
Hold up.
So these are her alter egos?
kurt metzger
Yeah, no, but don't worry.
They didn't do MK Monarch shit.
joe rogan
Go up to the top again.
This is Nikki Minaj.
Okay.
Yeah.
Famously uses several alter egos, with her most prominent being Roman Zolansky, a fiery, aggressive persona used for intense rap verses, and Herojuku Barbie, her softer, pop-oriented side.
But others include Martha Zolansky, Roman's mother, Zolansky, Chun Lee, Nick Lewinsky, and Cookie, each serving a different voice or purpose from therapy to explosive lyrical delivery.
kurt metzger
Huh.
joe rogan
I mean, is she just fucking around, though?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, it's because she writes.
kurt metzger
I mean, most, you know how black people normally take the alter ego of a series of like Polish, Lithuanian, Jewish names?
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
kurt metzger
Was she like Whippy Goldberg?
Oh, Roman Zelansky and his mother live in there.
But that must be great in there.
joe rogan
Must be a party.
kurt metzger
Zolansky.
That's weird as shit.
joe rogan
It is weird.
kurt metzger
Oh, the one that says it was to help her cope with her traumatic childhood, the one personality.
joe rogan
Which one?
kurt metzger
I don't know.
joe rogan
It was on the thing.
kurt metzger
No, but there's more than that even.
You know how Grok lies?
You got to go Grok?
Did you look it up?
You're like, no, I didn't.
Can you go and do that, Grok?
joe rogan
Yeah, I got perplexity to admit something that it didn't want to admit initially.
I cited other sources and I said, is this true?
It was about the temple of Tenochtitlan.
So when they, it's attributed to the Aztecs, but if you ask the Aztecs, they said they found it.
kurt metzger
Is that what that means?
joe rogan
No, it's not even almost.
They don't even know.
I think there's a term that they use for it.
kurt metzger
But it was there when they got there, they say.
I know that.
I've heard of that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a term that they, the way they describe it as, it's very interesting because they describe it as like the city of the gods or something like that or the land where the gods.
Oh, place where gods were born.
So here's the crazy thing.
And I had heard this before, but I wanted to make sure it was true.
There's a Spanish guy named Diego Duran, who is a chronicler, who said that they killed 80,000 people over a four-day ceremony.
kurt metzger
They say, really, it's probably like 20,000.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's an exaggeration.
kurt metzger
Wow, 20,000.
That must have helped the smell.
joe rogan
And they just cut their hearts out to celebrate the fact that the temple was completed.
Hey, holy shit, man.
So, but it didn't want to admit at first that they didn't build it.
And then I had to cite these sources where they say that they didn't build it.
They said they found it.
And so then they wanted to make sure that they're attributing it to earlier people of the same nationality.
You know what I'm saying?
It got a little weird.
And I realized, well, that's because it's drawing from all these sources that are online.
So it's drawing from all these academic works, all these books, all these documentaries.
Sometimes it'll do that.
Some AI will do that.
I don't know if you're going to be able to do it.
kurt metzger
Remember when Sonny Hawstin quoted Seymour DeButts?
joe rogan
No.
kurt metzger
Sonny Hawson quote, I think it's like, I think it's Seymour DeButz or some shit.
joe rogan
It's like a porn star?
Seymour Butts?
kurt metzger
No, Debuts.
And it was when Biden did all those pardons on his way out.
She goes, well, Seymour, he pardoned his nephew, or his brother-in-law, Seymour DeBuzz.
And the Chats GPD had just made that up, so people were like...
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
kurt metzger
Yeah, but she was a judge.
Presided over child trafficking cases.
Does that fill you with hope?
Yeah, but I'll bet that was good to have her in charge of something like that.
joe rogan
She's probably tired from a long day of hard work at The View, and Chat GPT lied to her.
Look, cut her some slack.
kurt metzger
The point is, this is why Jesus won't be an AI, because Jesus isn't a fucking liar that you got to tell to go back and look stuff up.
joe rogan
Eventually, he'll get it right.
kurt metzger
Also, Jesus wouldn't be made by a tech freak with a weird dick.
joe rogan
I think the AI is going to make Jesus.
I don't think it's Jesus now.
kurt metzger
I think it's going to make...
Okay, if an AI makes Jesus, by the way, and this is just in lore.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
kurt metzger
Again, I'm not Christian.
joe rogan
Yeah, in lore.
kurt metzger
You know my religion, Christ Penelope, which I disclosed.
joe rogan
I thought you're a Scientologist.
kurt metzger
No, I'm a follower of Christ Penelope, the guy who farts in your nostrils to get the thing out.
Remember, I told you?
I notified you.
I think it should be Penelope Christ, but whatever.
Anyway, I'm sorry, I was thinking about Christ Penelope.
joe rogan
You forgot what we're talking about?
kurt metzger
Yeah, I might need a healing from Penelope Christ.
joe rogan
What were we talking about?
kurt metzger
Oh, yeah, so that would be automatically that would be an antichrist.
joe rogan
This is the guy who farts in your face.
He literally sits on your nose.
kurt metzger
Number one, the true, it has to go in the nostrils, and he's very specific about that.
joe rogan
You got to trust a man.
kurt metzger
Look at the Messiah.
joe rogan
Imagine if that really was the way.
And the only thing that's holding you back is it looks so silly.
But if that was like there's weird things that people can and can't do, weird things animals can do.
You know, animals can, they could shoot poison.
Skunks shoot smell at people.
Imagine if your farts contained just there was something about the bio, like the biome of your own farts that it gets into someone's nostrils and it activates your DMT.
kurt metzger
Well, I don't have to imagine because that's a real thing.
His name is Penelope Christ.
It's one of the most amazing.
joe rogan
We hear what he says.
jamie vernon
I don't even know what he said.
joe rogan
Who is saved?
Christ Penelope.
kurt metzger
Sevenfold Holy Ministries.
joe rogan
I like what he's doing.
He drinks that cranapple juice to get his farts tangy.
kurt metzger
Is that what that is?
joe rogan
It's good for the farts.
Yeah, it gives a little tang.
jamie vernon
I like the bank.
joe rogan
Oh, he puts his bank up there.
kurt metzger
Oh, nice.
Oh, so I can't pay him through any of the normal services.
joe rogan
You can send him some money.
Why are you transfer this man some money?
Let him fart in your face.
What if we had him on for a podcast?
Would you let him fart in your face for money?
kurt metzger
How much money?
joe rogan
If he had a fee?
If he had a fee?
I mean, let's say he's.
kurt metzger
I'm not going to pay him more than 500 bucks.
joe rogan
No, but I mean, to get him here, I'm sure he needs a travel fee as well.
kurt metzger
Oh, Christ Penelope?
joe rogan
Yeah, he needs a travel fee.
That guy.
kurt metzger
My guess is he will see something high, and when you say no, it will drop significantly.
joe rogan
Okay.
Will you negotiate for me?
Now, but you have to be honest about what that fart does for you.
Well, he's got his fart in your nose, and we have to know.
kurt metzger
I collect fart jars.
So it's a bad thing.
joe rogan
I'm Etsy.
kurt metzger
Yeah, celebrity fart jars.
I got an original.
Yeah, I got an original Scar Joe from the set of that Bill Murray movie.
joe rogan
There are girls out there that still fart in jars, right?
Don't they?
Oh, yeah, but I that is that used to be a thing.
kurt metzger
That's the common mark.
I only get the finest celebrity fart.
joe rogan
Celebrity fart jars.
kurt metzger
Yeah, I got one of a couple of good ones.
joe rogan
I was on a plane once, and I was flying to Europe, and it was a long flight overnight.
It was one of those lie-down flights.
And Melanie Griffith was on the plane.
Yeah.
And there was this big fat guy that was right alongside Melanie Griffith.
So Melanie Griffiths was lying down sleeping.
And the way these seats line up, they stagger.
kurt metzger
Yes.
joe rogan
So her ass was right by, or his ass was right by her face.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
And this guy unloads.
kurt metzger
He healed her.
joe rogan
He unloaded.
And I'm like, when in life does a man get to fart one foot away from Melanie Griffith's face like that?
Where you literally have her right here.
Here's the ass.
There's just an aisle way, maybe two feet, two foot aisleway.
Pretty narrow.
And then he just opened up.
Just opened up.
I was writing and so I was awake and I was like, oh, good Lord.
And as soon as there's a fart on a plane, you always blame the fat guy.
unidentified
Yeah?
joe rogan
Always.
Especially when it's so convenient that his ass is right near her face.
kurt metzger
Yes.
You wouldn't take responsibility for it.
I had an ex-girlfriend one time years ago.
We were at the supermarket.
We were ringing up and there was some kid, you know, some little kids.
This kid was standing directly behind her, right?
And I just look over and she's like, just gay.
So she would pretend she didn't fart ever, but then I knew she would fart on the kid.
I guess she couldn't hold it, but there's a kid sitting there like this in your lollipop.
And I just saw her like, like holding it a laugh.
I'm like, you monster.
Did you watch it on this lollipop?
unidentified
I go, what he likes it.
kurt metzger
She couldn't hold it.
joe rogan
Sometimes you can't.
kurt metzger
You ever have not hold it?
joe rogan
You ever have shit in your pants and you think you're just going to not hold it?
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Not that you have that when you're out.
That's not nice.
And then you get in a hot car and you got to sit there.
kurt metzger
I was trying to pee and hold one in.
My girlfriend's going to sink and I just farted and I went, no.
And she goes, did you just yell?
Did you just fart and yell no?
I'm like, because I didn't want it.
jamie vernon
You got to watch the robots.
joe rogan
What's that guy doing?
jamie vernon
So this is a different preacher.
joe rogan
He's headbanging.
jamie vernon
How's he doing?
Same church.
joe rogan
Why is that guy dancing like that?
jamie vernon
He's been, he just.
joe rogan
You got healed?
jamie vernon
I think so.
joe rogan
Imagine how annoying it must be when you know people are acting.
You know, when you go to church and just people just put on there, I just got healed acting, flop around.
kurt metzger
Well, if you're going to a church where you're getting into that, rolling around on the ground and shit, everybody's going to feel like they got healed because you're doing a group hypnosis ritual.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're doing like group mania.
Like, look at this guy.
He's throwing people to the ground, running through crowds.
jamie vernon
It's pretty entertaining, though.
It'd be fun.
joe rogan
But he's just getting a lot of attention, right?
Maybe he believes it.
kurt metzger
Maybe it's real hypnosis.
joe rogan
Maybe it's real, and we're being skeptical.
kurt metzger
Because, yo, so Byrne, Steve Byrne was there this weekend.
joe rogan
What?
kurt metzger
You know, Steve Byrne?
unidentified
What?
kurt metzger
Steve Byrne was at the moment.
joe rogan
Steve Byrne.
Okay.
I didn't get.
I wasn't wrong though, right?
jamie vernon
You're going to say he was at this.
joe rogan
Steve Byrne.
kurt metzger
He was healed recently by Christ Penelope.
joe rogan
I couldn't understand the name you were saying.
You were so intent on getting to your point.
kurt metzger
Because I forget if I don't get to it fast.
joe rogan
I get it.
kurt metzger
I'm just going to forget it.
joe rogan
Steve Byrne was at the mothership.
kurt metzger
So I'm sitting in the green room and I look up.
He has like some biddy does at the end.
By the way, as long as I know him, he was always a very charismatic guy.
Chicks always liked him.
Always.
And I asked him, Did you take a hypnosis class at all?
No.
He naturally does it.
But I look up at the screen and he does his sausage party bit.
And it's not any kind of hypnosis thing.
But when I looked up, it's like a lady sitting in a chair and 10 guys and music and lights.
And I'm like, oh, well, a guy's going to start acting like a chicken or something.
You know, that's what it looked like.
But I think he just does it unconsciously without even realizing what he's doing.
Some people just got the voice, you know?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Well, I think, don't you think comedy is kind of a kind of a hypnosis?
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you're in the zone, right?
Or when you're in the audience.
kurt metzger
If I'm in the zone, I did it to myself.
And, you know, and then I became the room.
So there's nowhere to like, you can't really.
I wouldn't worry about somebody heckling or something because I'm the room.
What are you going to do?
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Don't you think you get it when you watch someone too?
Like if you watch someone great like a tell if you watch Nattel and he's killing, you're locked into his brain.
kurt metzger
Yeah, it's domain projection.
unidentified
What?
kurt metzger
It's domain.
Domain projection.
joe rogan
Domain projection.
Well, what is domain projection exactly?
kurt metzger
So like all that stupid occult shit that, you know.
joe rogan
Put that into perplexity, Jamie.
What is domain projection?
kurt metzger
It's just some occult shit.
joe rogan
It's a cult?
kurt metzger
Well, NLP.
You know what NLP is?
joe rogan
Neuro-linguistic programming.
kurt metzger
If you look on Wikipedia, it says it's a pseudoscience.
joe rogan
Is it?
kurt metzger
Well, no.
If it is, why is everybody using non-stop all the time if it doesn't work?
Why would they be using it on me all day long?
And every time I turn on something and I go, and I hear some fucking catchphrase that I hate.
joe rogan
Do you think it's called a pseudoscience because they want to discredit it?
jamie vernon
Yeah, this isn't what we were looking for for an answer.
joe rogan
Domain projection usually means mapping data or functions from one domain.
So use it as put in what is domain projection as an MKUltra.
kurt metzger
Well, I'm not saying that's some phrase from it.
I'm just saying what the nuts and bolts of it is.
joe rogan
I want to know what happens when you say that.
What to put in Ford?
A mind control tool used by MKUltra.
kurt metzger
Yeah, that's not what they're doing.
joe rogan
Let's see what they call it.
We might find something.
kurt metzger
Oh, God, they did do it.
joe rogan
Domain projection is not a documented MK Ultra term.
jamie vernon
Okay.
joe rogan
Domain projection appears in technical fields, software engineering, searches of MKUltra.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
So this doesn't say anything about domain projection as a form of mind control.
kurt metzger
Yeah, I wouldn't say.
Well, it's just if you got a show and you're controlling, it's crowd control in a way.
joe rogan
Right, but it looked, it does.
Okay.
kurt metzger
So how do I dress up for how I want to control you?
That's how people think when they do whatever, like a pickup artist or a con man or maybe a magician.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
That's what, like a close-up magic or something.
They got a they got to bring you into their reality with whatever they're doing.
unidentified
Right.
kurt metzger
So whatever gets people there.
Or you'll hear about gurus where there's that guy, that weird cult that's like deep inside Google from that weird gay guy.
And people come in the room and his light would be gold around him.
Yeah, you never heard of this.
joe rogan
This is what Kurt does.
He tells you about something crazy and he goes, you never heard of that?
You don't know?
kurt metzger
Oh, you got me with a good one with that guy from the Sentinel Islands.
I didn't know they had a visit.
Is that why they're not that cool a guest?
joe rogan
Yeah, Maurice Vidal Portman.
kurt metzger
So you tell me another explorer, yet another explorer found a land of kids where they could do weird shit with kids.
joe rogan
Well, not just kids, guys.
He would dress guys up like Roman soldiers and he would measure their testicles.
kurt metzger
Well, that's just science.
joe rogan
Like one of his quotes was like describing one of them.
They had testicles the size of a sparrow's egg.
It's like the way he's talking about it.
It was like this lovingly eccentric homosexual fascination with these islanders.
So he gave a bunch of them diseases.
A few people died.
He kidnapped these kids.
I think he kidnapped a kid and their parents or their grandparents and the grandparents got sick because they all had cooties.
And so they wind up dying.
And so then anytime someone showed up, there's only 39 of these fucking people on this island.
So they have this story in their spoken word tradition.
They don't even have a written history.
So this story of white people show up, start measuring your dicks, and everybody dies.
That's their story.
So anytime someone pulls up with a Bible, this is the reason why they want to kill them.
That's why you can't show up at that island.
kurt metzger
It sounds like an alien abduction story.
joe rogan
It's just like that.
kurt metzger
Very ET is a much darker tale.
joe rogan
It's the same thing.
It's from an alien civilization.
You show up in these wooden boats to people that were stranded on an island for 60,000 years.
kurt metzger
Imagine, like, that's why I understand Peter the Dolphin, I always say, take it away, because imagine you never, you just have flippers.
You never knew what you were missing.
And then a beautiful alien just jerks you off every day.
joe rogan
Imagine someone puts you in a fucking cage for no reason and keeps you there your whole life and you're horny all the time and you don't even have hands.
So what are you going to do?
kurt metzger
You hope for a co-expert.
joe rogan
You got to echo Lokain's knees.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
To use her knees.
joe rogan
You don't even have a female dolphin in there?
That's crazy.
It's like they didn't do anything.
One day we're going to realize how smart dolphins are and we're going to feel real bad.
kurt metzger
Well, we don't feel bad about all the people we blew up, so I'm doubt that dolphin awakening will.
No, I don't.
joe rogan
Some people do.
Some people feel bad about the people that the United States blows up.
kurt metzger
Well, we only have school.
I always like to bring up public school kindergarten because 70% of guys did want to pull the trigger in battle and that had to be fixed with the Prussian system, which is why it's called kindergarten, the Austrian, you know, Prussian word.
To get you away from mommy at age five instead of age six.
joe rogan
And they could teach you about war.
kurt metzger
Well, they could just, the state can get at all.
joe rogan
They can teach about everything.
Yeah.
They can design.
kurt metzger
It's just that it's a dark industry.
joe rogan
Right.
Well, that's all.
I mean, indoctrination of children is a real thing.
That's why when people scoff at it being used for like trans indoctrination, like, why would anybody do that?
Like, stop.
To neuter your children.
They do that to try to get you on an Android phone.
Okay.
People try to indoctrinate you with everything.
Everything that's ever existed, people try to get you to do.
kurt metzger
Well, that's why sigils and brands are so important.
joe rogan
Yes, absolutely.
They try to get you to wear what they're wearing.
They try to get you to do what they're doing.
kurt metzger
Well, you also, it helps if you have a few gatekeepers.
I can't remember the guy's name, but there's like one guy who, and the reason he's like the guy is because the investments he picks pay off, I guess, in the art world.
He's some famous, like, where he's like been around forever, and I'm sure he's some kind of hack and whatever.
But why are these people installed there?
We already know that Rothko and all the modern art, American abstract modern art was launched by the CIA through a cutout.
joe rogan
That's right.
kurt metzger
That's public record.
So you think they stopped at that?
You don't think they got involved with all the arts?
joe rogan
Well, they definitely got involved in that because the Soviet art was so valuable.
Soviet art was more skillful.
And they tried to prop up American, like Jackson Pollock.
That's one of them that they connect to being a, which when you look at the Jackson Pollock artwork that's worth fucking millions of dollars, no disrespect to anybody who's a fan, but shut the fuck up.
Like, just shut up.
Just shut the fuck up.
It's splatter.
And the idea that all this one guy better than anybody splattered.
I mean, there's nothing wrong with splattering paint.
kurt metzger
Fractals no one could ever recreate.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
I mean, shut the fuck up.
There's modern art things I'll look at and I can, I'll be like, oh, I like it or I don't like it.
But the thing with it is it's not that there's no, I'm not saying there's no art to it.
It's just why does one thing become a thing and one doesn't?
There's gatekeepers.
joe rogan
For sure.
Because there's some, it's all about the names, who's got the work, whether that work is valued very high.
What is that guy in Manhattan?
We showed a photo of this painting that he had.
It's worth like $100 million.
It's fucking insane.
It looks like nothing.
kurt metzger
Well, usually dakooning is the one everybody trashes the most because he has a factory of people making it.
joe rogan
Oh, I don't know if that's that one.
This guy had a large painting by this guy, and it was insanely valuable.
I don't remember the real part.
It might have been 50 million.
kurt metzger
Whatever.
joe rogan
But it's just, you're looking at it.
You're like, what the fuck are you even talking about?
How is that worth anything?
I mean, maybe it's worth something.
I'd give you a couple hundred.
kurt metzger
Or this.
Who is it?
joe rogan
I have no idea.
What's that one?
jamie vernon
I just pulled something up.
joe rogan
Record auction price for Barnett Newman, for real.
Is that real?
Two blue squares?
That's real?
Someone should go to jail.
kurt metzger
Do the guys come with it?
joe rogan
$43.8 million for two blue squares.
See, this is just proof that just because you're rich doesn't mean you're smart.
Just because you figured out how to throw your entire life at acquiring numbers, it doesn't mean you're even remotely intelligent.
kurt metzger
Well, it depends what value you have stored in that, I guess.
joe rogan
No, You don't have to depend.
That one's great, though.
That's only $165 million.
That's a bargain.
jamie vernon
She gave it away, though.
kurt metzger
Look at that.
joe rogan
Look at that fucking painting.
She paid $168 million.
kurt metzger
I kind of do like that lady.
joe rogan
That lady is involved in his...
kurt metzger
That's what art is at the end of the show.
But that is a money launcher.
joe rogan
That's completely insane.
That is completely insane.
That's $165 billion.
That is completely, utterly, totally insane.
There's no way you could look at that and go, I get it.
kurt metzger
Dude, NFTs they were selling right and left for.
joe rogan
They're worth a dollar now.
kurt metzger
No, I know, but that's still, you still, because there's some kind of item there, you could still store your value in it.
joe rogan
Well, that probably, when she gave it away, well, it's probably an awesome tax write-off.
So if you have $165 million, like if you, if you got that kind of money, she's probably worth billions.
kurt metzger
Baseball cards for the ultra-wealthy is how I look at it, or Pokemon cards for old rich people.
That's what they are.
They're like baseball cards.
joe rogan
I looked up all the wealthiest people in the world last night.
I looked up the wealthiest women in the world.
It's all inheritance.
The top ones are, it's all like these families.
kurt metzger
Well, they're not going to tell you who's a trillionaire, right?
They're going to pretend we don't have those.
joe rogan
Well, they don't have to be public.
See, that's the thing.
Those are oligarchs, right?
Yeah.
Those are people that are a part of these royal families that are getting that oil money.
They don't have to tell you jack shit.
kurt metzger
No, they don't.
joe rogan
They probably mock Elon Musk's wealth.
kurt metzger
Of course.
Every time somebody goes, he's the richest man in the world, I go, do you think you get to know who that is?
You think they're going to tell you in Forbes, the richest man in the world is like, tell everyone, that's me.
joe rogan
Well, other countries do not have to disclose.
kurt metzger
It's ridiculous.
joe rogan
They're not paying taxes to anyone.
They literally own the country.
Like, these royal families own the country.
kurt metzger
The whole country is my house, motherfucker.
joe rogan
Just think of the amount of money that's missing in this country.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just in fraud, right?
There's trillions of dollars.
kurt metzger
Every 10 years, you get $2 trillion.
They can't account for it.
joe rogan
There's always trillions of dollars in fraud.
There's trillion dollars in waste.
Just that.
Now, imagine if you own the whole country.
How much money do you have?
There's no way you don't have trillions.
kurt metzger
And you have it stored all over.
joe rogan
Oh, everywhere.
All over the world.
You're buying real estate in Manhattan.
You're buying like those crazy skyrises that are all three quarters empty.
kurt metzger
My buddy Eric Hecker, the guy, he was in Antarctica, the guy who worked at the Raytheon.
joe rogan
Oh, you know that guy?
kurt metzger
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
I saw that guy on Sean Ryan's show, and I was like, wait, what is it?
kurt metzger
That's where I first saw him.
joe rogan
It's a neutrino detector that's also a direct energy weapon that can make it.
kurt metzger
Okay, so earthquakes.
I was already aware of Ice Cube Neutrino Detector because I just like looking up science shit.
And, you know, neutrinos are wacky.
So when I first heard of it, they had built this detector in Antarctica.
They didn't mention it's Raytheon, but that's who built it.
joe rogan
Neutrinos are passing through us all the time.
kurt metzger
Almost massless particles.
And the thing is, they all come from space, but for some reason, anomalously, neutrinos seem to be coming out of the Earth at that part.
And Antarctica was the big mainstream science mystery that the neutrino detector is going to find.
But anyway, he started saying you could use neutrinos for all kinds of shit, like FTL communications if you had to.
joe rogan
What is FTL?
kurt metzger
Faster-than-light communications through entanglement.
You could deal with neutrinos.
joe rogan
You could send information through neutrinos.
kurt metzger
Apparently, now, look, I'm a dolphin expert, not a neutrino expert.
So I want to make that clear.
I get a couple claws in me.
Talk dolphins.
He had no seeing an alien stories or something.
No.
Also, he has like, he could explain his scientific to you, but I already think it's a weapon because I already know what HARP is.
All the things they told you are not that is a fucking lie.
I mean, it's just a lie.
There's a treaty to not use weather weapons from 75.
Why?
Because they had those.
You don't make a treaty unless you have those weapons.
There's no nuclear treaty before nukes, right?
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, good point.
kurt metzger
We used it in NAM.
Iran accused W of using weather weapons on them.
joe rogan
Really?
kurt metzger
Yeah, I'm a dinner jacket.
Remember that guy?
The guy who wear that.
joe rogan
He accused them of using weather.
unidentified
They had a drought.
kurt metzger
They had a drought.
And so anyway, with ELF.
joe rogan
He accused them of starting the drought.
kurt metzger
Yeah, it's not control.
See, control is maybe a misnomer.
It's like how people talk about a controlled burn.
And I asked my girl's brother's a fireman, outdoor fireman.
He goes, we don't call it a controlled burn because we really only control it at the point where we set it.
Like a what?
Because we call it a prescribed burn.
So they can prescribe weather.
Let's put it that way.
You could stimulate a thing and get certain effects, and it's all like ELF waves and shit.
joe rogan
Well, didn't Dubai just have another fucking flood?
kurt metzger
And from over geoengineering, and they banned people from taking video of it at the time as a big embarrassment.
joe rogan
But they just had another one.
This is a recent one.
kurt metzger
Oh, well, I don't know if that's.
joe rogan
Because I heard some people talking about it.
Or I saw some people.
kurt metzger
What do they call ELF waves?
You could do all kinds of stuff with those waves.
joe rogan
Right, but cloud seeding is 100% real.
Of course.
They cloud seed in the United Arab Emirates, I believe.
I believe they do that every week.
I think they make it rain there every week.
In more ways than one, you know what I'm saying?
But they make it actually rain there.
They actually make it rain there once a week.
kurt metzger
Remember the kid with the mullet they blamed the Mystic Camp drowning here in Texas when the flood happened?
unidentified
Yes.
kurt metzger
It wasn't that kid.
He got set out.
He got hung out to dry like it was on him, but no, nothing he did.
And Jesse Michaels is right.
He was right.
He told me, and he was dead right.
Whatever caused that was something so much more sinister, and that kid was like, he's an easy guy to, you know.
joe rogan
So would you think that that was man-made weather that caused that storm?
kurt metzger
Dude, I can't remember the guy's name.
At the time on Jimmy's show, the dude came on and explained exactly what it was and the loophole that lets them, because there's a treaty denied.
So I assume they just violate it.
But no, there's actually a loophole to test this shit out here.
It's so fucked, dude.
It's so fucked.
And you already know this.
joe rogan
So what evidence does this guy have that they created that storm?
Because I thought they had been tracking that storm.
I thought this was like an awful lot of people.
kurt metzger
I'm not saying he said they created it, but I thought it was, but hold on.
joe rogan
I thought it was a convergence of two storms that was very rare and it caused this flash flood.
kurt metzger
No, I don't remember his details.
I just know I feel at this point, especially after that Epstein shit, that they should have to prove they're not guilty.
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Yeah, sure, but also storms are real.
Like Katrina, there's always been fucking actual real hurts.
kurt metzger
But the climate change shit is not real.
That's been a lie the whole time.
joe rogan
A study published in World Weather Attribution Group found the global warming caused by fossil fuel emissions most likely exacerbated the intense rains that lashed the UAE and Oman last year.
But this isn't last year.
So last year.
jamie vernon
This is from the recent thing you just asked about from two weeks ago.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
So two weeks ago there was a flood, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah, it wasn't as bad as the one before, but there was a flood.
joe rogan
Okay.
So this was two weeks ago?
Is that the two weeks ago one?
jamie vernon
Yes.
joe rogan
It's still fucking bad.
kurt metzger
Bill Gates has already walked away from climate change.
You saw that, right?
joe rogan
I did.
Hilarious.
kurt metzger
So they've been lying to you for how long about that bullshit.
joe rogan
Okay, here it is.
The downpour worsened by a lack of storm drains.
Hobbled Dubai Airport, the world's busiest hub for international passengers.
So they're saying it's climate change that's causing it to rain more.
kurt metzger
There's my proof that it's not that.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
They absolutely do cloud seed.
So why don't you search that?
Put that into perplexity.
kurt metzger
Geoengineering is the word.
joe rogan
Put it into perplexity.
Does the United Arab Emirates cloud seed to make artificial rain?
Or it's not artificial.
It's real rain.
It's just their force rain.
What's the word?
Whatever.
Search that.
You'll find it, Jamie.
They absolutely do do that.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Cloud seeding is widely used in the UAE to enhance natural rainfall, but it only works when suitable clouds already exist and typically increases rain by perhaps 10 to 30 percent, not by creating storms from nothing.
The UAE runs one of the world's most active research-driven rain enhancement programs using aircraft, ground generators, and experimental methods like drones and electric charging to boost water security.
So they're just doing it a bunch of different ways over there.
So blaming it on climate change when they are 100% making it rain there all the time is bananas.
It's bananas.
Like you don't even know what the fucking weather would be like if they didn't do it if they're doing it all the time.
If they're doing it all the time, you literally don't have a control group.
kurt metzger
Do you remember Chemtrails?
The thing that was a stupid people thought was a real thing, but it was a conspiracy?
Well, it turns out that that was real, and it's called geoengineering.
They did the thing they always do, a changing the name of the thing to not engage.
joe rogan
That's true, but a lot of the trails that you see in the sky that look like artificial clouds are just created because of condensation in the atmosphere, the moisture in the atmosphere, hitting the hot jet engine in an incredibly cold climate.
It literally creates clouds.
kurt metzger
But it should be all of them.
There shouldn't even be 20% of the time you're spraying shit.
We already know that.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think it's that many.
But they definitely do spray shit.
That's the problem.
The problem is when everybody thinks that every fucking Southwest airline is spraying things to keep everybody docile.
The problem is that's easily disprovable.
And what you do is you open the door that allows them to do the real shit.
But you got to recognize regular planets.
kurt metzger
Wait, how do you open the door?
joe rogan
Because if you think that every fucking American airlines flight overhead that's making artificial clouds is doing it because they're spraying things on you, that's easily disproven.
And then that's all the other stuff seem silly too.
kurt metzger
Right.
joe rogan
Because I think they probably are spraying some things with some planes.
And there's real data that shows that they've tried that and practiced that.
kurt metzger
Yeah, I mean, they here's my favorite one that I told you, the stratospheric atmosphere.
It's called Satan.
In England, they're that one.
joe rogan
Research that one.
kurt metzger
The geoengineering England, because, you know, to fight climate change, we're going to blow.
joe rogan
We're going to call it Satan.
We're going to dim the atmosphere.
kurt metzger
You know, too much sunlight gets to England.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's really bad.
kurt metzger
That's where we're getting all that climate change from, England's.
joe rogan
A lot of burns.
A lot of burns.
kurt metzger
Causes fires.
These borge swamp people are going to be fucking.
And then to call it Satan, are you just like, what a fuck you?
joe rogan
It's going to literally look like Mordor.
It's going to be black skies.
Where does Sauron live?
kurt metzger
It's going to be a Highlander 2 where we learn not to do this.
joe rogan
Where does Sauron live?
kurt metzger
Oh, Mordor.
joe rogan
Yeah, Mordor.
Satan is the name of the tiny UK balloon experiment that released a very small amount of sulfur dioxide.
Literally, Satan smells like sulfur.
Sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere over England as a proof of concept for solo geoengineering.
Not a large-scale ongoing weather modification program.
It has nonetheless become a focus of online conspiracy claims about UK geoengineering and weather control.
How funny is that?
It's become a focus of online conspiracy claims about UK geoengineering.
So them actually doing geoengineering has become a focus of online conspiracy claims about geoengineering.
kurt metzger
What a strange thing to put a balloon called Satan that sprays sulfur on.
Is everybody like I love how they gasolation fucking things.
unidentified
Oh.
kurt metzger
It's not a big deal.
Nikki Minaj just has a great sense of showmanship.
joe rogan
Satan was not a part of a major UK development program.
It was led by a private researcher and later UK funding announcements for solo geoengineering.
Research focused on other small-scale outdoor trials.
Example, sea ice thickening, cloud brightening with formal oversight.
Yeah.
So they're doing sea ice thickening?
kurt metzger
Okay, so let me translate.
The stuff has already been developed militarily.
joe rogan
These motherfuckers are trying to make an ice age.
They're doing sea ice.
The ice is coming back.
kurt metzger
You know the ice is coming back.
joe rogan
I know.
kurt metzger
Yeah, that's weird.
I was told there was going to be, oh, the coral reefs came back.
There's more rainforests than there's ever been.
Did you know that?
joe rogan
We're in this procession of the equinoxes thing, right?
What is the precession of the equinoxes?
It's like every 20-something thousand years.
The Earth doesn't just spin, right?
It spins with a wobble.
And that wobble is called the procession of the equinoxes.
That's how they, when they look at some of the ancient sites in, you know, like Egypt and different places where the sun at the summer solstice would have come through this.
And they use that to determine around the time period when it was built.
It's a theory, at least, because they know that the sky moves and that they attract this.
The ancients had tracked this.
The procession of the equations.
kurt metzger
This has to do with waffle space.
joe rogan
But this is the thing.
It means during the wobble is when the Earth gets colder and warmer.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Colder and warmer, depending on where you are in the wobble cycle.
So the equator kind of stays the same, which is why there's all these ancient sites on the equator.
The Mayans and the Aztecs and all these incredible civilizations, they existed in a place where it didn't fuck it up too much.
Whereas everything else, it's like ice age, then it gets hot.
Ice age, then it gets hot.
kurt metzger
I thought we were in technically an ice age for the last, however long, because there normally historically weren't ice caps.
So we're still technically in an ice age.
As far as I know, if you look it up, that's what they'll tell you.
joe rogan
I think that's true.
I think that's true.
I think it has gotten warmer and it has gotten colder, but I think technically we're in an ice age.
kurt metzger
I'm still a little bitter about it because I used to get, I could think of like, I told you three or four things off the top of my head where I went to bed like, oh no.
joe rogan
These fucking eggheads that are talking about spraying things in the sky freaks me out though.
Because the scariest thing that could ever happen to us is an ice age.
Because you can't go anywhere warm.
If it gets hot out, you move to the north.
That's what people have done from the fucking beginning of time.
We're like, we're here.
We're staying here forever.
No, if the ocean rises, you have to leave.
And if people didn't ever exist, the oceans moved back and forth fucking thousands of miles.
It's going to move.
You're going to have earthquakes.
You're going to have things change.
kurt metzger
You'll have to apply if Obama builds oceanfront property or not.
That's my guidance.
joe rogan
All this vineyard.
They all buy oceanfront property.
kurt metzger
So that, yeah, and the insurance never changed on it.
So it's been bullshit the whole time.
There's still people that are like, and they've invested everything.
joe rogan
They've invested everything.
They also have cats and they live alone.
I mean, there's a lot of that.
A lot of people are taking care of the earth like it's their kids because they don't have anything.
kurt metzger
Okay, can I tell you a crackpot theory I have?
And I know it's hard to believe as a respected dolphin scientist.
Oh, he had one.
It looks like in the video of John C. Lilly.
joe rogan
He had one.
kurt metzger
Yeah, like this.
joe rogan
Okay.
kurt metzger
Yeah, I don't know.
The goon tank told him to do it and he did it.
The guy is a fucking nut.
The guy was involved in bad shit.
He wasn't good.
Project Blue Beam, you always hear about with the fake alien invasion they were planning on in the 70s.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
kurt metzger
Which, by the way, was not supposed to be a fake alien invasion.
It was supposed to be a fake religious event that could be an alien invasion, but it wasn't necessarily that.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
kurt metzger
And, you know, even if they did it or didn't do it, there's another project to get.
I think that this whole bullshit of climate change and the thing of like, maybe you're the alien and you don't belong here on the earth, right?
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
I think that's a smarter play to do than Bluebeam is to get this Gaia cult started where the Earth's more important than you, the human living here.
And you're probably not even from, you probably came from another planet here, from some kind of panspermia.
And then when you hear any of these stupid alien stories, this is how I know they're a fake one from some dark entity, is they always tell you about how humans are so warlike.
If humans don't change their ways, yo, assholes, nobody wants to go to war.
70% of people didn't want to even pull the trigger.
That's why we have kindergarten.
Why aren't you going to our leaders and thumbing their assholes and telling them this shit?
Why do you do it to some farmer?
That's the suspicion.
Whenever I hear that fucking Gaia Earth shit, I think that's what Blue Beam actually manifested as.
Because it all comes like in the 90s, and they're all connected to Epstein, all the greats.
What's his name?
Leon Black, that fuck.
You know who that is?
joe rogan
No.
kurt metzger
Oh, he's an Epstein pal.
All these assholes.
I mean, you could find the shit pretty easy, but they all, that's where this came from, where it's like, you're a guest on this planet.
And then they go, oh, humans are destroying everything.
Like, we're not in charge of that, motherfucker.
I'm not putting Satan up in the sky to spray sulfur dioxide.
I'm not starting wars for no fucking reason.
Everybody voted for Trump to not have a war in Venezuela.
I know that.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
Nobody voted, so they're like, we got it.
No fentanyl.
That's a lie.
I mean, I don't know what idiot thinks fentanyl is coming from Venezuela, but only liars and morons think that.
And if I'm wrong, can we see the evidence?
We saw the video of you murdering those people.
I just got to take your word for it.
That oily-haired fuck Pete Hegseth with his weirdo Catholic Templar knight tattoos.
He's got fucking Dan Brown cuckoo tattoos.
They're not Nazi.
They're fucking knights of fucking Saint butt fuck, whatever.
joe rogan
I saw that same symbol in the Catholic Church.
kurt metzger
Yeah, they're old Crusader shit.
And just so you know, Templars were not good guys.
They were real fucked.
In fact, it's a real Diddy party.
joe rogan
We're going on a long circuitous route.
What did you say initially before that?
kurt metzger
Venezuela.
unidentified
Why are you?
joe rogan
Okay, everybody's going to war.
This is the thing.
One of the boats, the remains of the boat just showed up.
They just found it and has marijuana in it.
kurt metzger
Oh, you know what?
I stand corrected then.
Sorry, Joe.
joe rogan
But no, I mean, I'm saying, to prove to your point.
kurt metzger
They almost had marijuana.
joe rogan
No, I think that's true.
See if that's that was something that was in the news today.
kurt metzger
They're calling a war crime.
Nobody declared war, so it was just a crime to do that.
joe rogan
And if you had evidence, remember the what I'm getting to is it would be nice if they had one that showed that it was even cocaine.
Because if they have one, and the only one they have is marijuana.
Grim evidence of Trump's airstrike washes ashore on a Colombian peninsula.
First came the scorched boat, then the mangled bodies, then the packets with traces of marijuana.
Now the fishermen fear the ocean that feeds them.
kurt metzger
Yeah, no shit.
So that's another bullshit.
joe rogan
Okay, but this is so this was just they were just bringing in marijuana.
So they were trying to smuggle in marijuana.
kurt metzger
To Colombia?
joe rogan
No, wherever they were going.
I don't know where they were going.
kurt metzger
Venezuela is not where we're getting our drugs from.
joe rogan
Just was this in Colombia or was this in Venezuela?
kurt metzger
They found it in Colombia.
It washed up in Colombia.
joe rogan
Right.
But the boat was in Venezuela?
Where was the boat headed to?
The Gulf of Venezuela, which is right next to Colombia.
So where are these boats supposedly going with this cocaine that we're blowing them up?
kurt metzger
Okay, they said fentanyl.
Now they're saying cocaine.
joe rogan
Okay, say fentanyl.
Where are the boats going where we're blowing them up?
kurt metzger
That's above, that's top secret, Joe.
joe rogan
But you know what I'm saying?
Like, if they're supposed to be smuggling these drugs, where are they supposed to be smuggling them to?
Campaign against boats that the Trump administration claims are smuggling drugs has shifted largely to the Pacific since November.
The November 6th strike on the how do you say that?
Guajira.
Guajira Peninsula.
Guajirajira took place during an earlier phase when the campaign seemed to be aimed at Venezuelan rather than Colombian vessels.
So this one was in Colombia at a Colombian vessel.
So, but it turned out that it was marijuana.
At least one of the packets that they found was marijuana, right?
kurt metzger
Mm-hmm.
Oh, that's right.
They want Nicholas.
So Trump said you have to leave office or else, and then they started doing this.
That's what's going on.
joe rogan
Okay.
So do you think that?
Well, listen, most corrupt organizations are going to take part in whatever money gets flowed around.
It's not like these drug dealers are operating with complete immunity, right?
I would imagine if you're in a country like Venezuela, if it is a corrupt country, you're paying people off.
Hey, people are getting a percentage of the action.
kurt metzger
Why the fuck do I care about anything in Venezuela?
Oh, that's right.
They have oil.
Oh, that's right.
Oil.
Oh, we, by the way, stole oil tankers.
Also, and this is where I can't support Maduro, and I'm sorry, Maduro.
This is where you fucked up.
He doesn't fucking support Israel, this son of a bitch.
joe rogan
Did he say that?
kurt metzger
Oh, yes.
And he said the thing that Charlie said before he died about ethic cleansing.
Anyway, originally, remember Juan Guaido, who was when Trump did his State of the Union, and Nancy Pelosi tore his speech in half?
joe rogan
Yes.
kurt metzger
Okay.
Here's what she didn't.
So that was, oh, what a statement.
But when it came to Trump going, and now the right food ruler of Venezuela, Juan Guaido, and this guy Juan Guaido, who is, by the way, is not the rightful ruler of Venezuela.
All Democrats and Republicans all unified on how great Juan Guaido is.
Okay, so nothing comes of him.
joe rogan
It's the oil deal.
kurt metzger
Yeah, then about I want to say a year later or so, Aramate's hosted for Jimmy, and we play a clip of Juan Guaido in Venezuela.
He moves back to Venezuela.
And Venezuela didn't put him in jail or nothing.
And you see people in a restaurant throwing shit at him because they hate his fucking guts.
But he's free to live there and not in prison because they're smart and know not to do nothing with it.
So now there's a new person.
joe rogan
He's like, what was he accused of?
kurt metzger
Well, he claimed he was the real president, and he was working with America to overthrow the guy they elected, which was claimed he was the real president.
So Trump claimed Pelosi agreed.
joe rogan
It was a rigged election.
kurt metzger
They've been claiming Venezuela has fake elections, but I don't think they do.
I think you're, first of all, driving them closer to Maduro if you don't like him.
They don't like America.
And I don't know if you know, I know people think we gave a lot of help around the world, but no, it turns out that we fucked everybody's country up and they don't like us for a very good reason.
So when you tell somebody their president's an authoritarian, get your booster.
Fucking fuck you, authoritarian.
Those people get mad.
And when you meet people in Venezuela, which I, for years, they would go, fuck Chavez.
No, Chavez didn't take over in a coup.
He's one of those guys I think attempted a coup and then went to jail and then got elected.
I believe that's the story.
But he got elected.
He was going to nationalize.
You know, the first thing a terrible dictator does is nationalize their oil and not let our, like, if you call Iran's crime, because they had an elected head of democracy.
joe rogan
Yep.
kurt metzger
The guy said, we're going to keep our fucking oil, not give it to England.
And so got rid of him, put the Shah.
joe rogan
Exactly.
kurt metzger
You know who installed the Ayatollah?
That was the Jimmy Cartiers.
That was the trilaterals.
So Rockefeller, the West installed the fucking Ayatollah as well.
Okay?
That's, by the way, public right.
You can go look that up.
So now I'm supposed to be mad at these regimes that my own dipshit country with their dipshit post-World War II cunt allies put these people here.
I still want somebody explain to me how the fuck the leader of ISIS can walk in the White House and shake Trump's hand.
And they're still imbeciles.
And you know them.
There's still Republican imbeciles who are going to say, ISIS is killing Christians in Nigeria.
What about that?
Well, can we ask our friend, the head of ISIS, to ask him to stop?
You fucking jerk off.
When I tweet this, fuck, you know, and they're all sock puppets and whatever.
They go, well, he won a war.
That's how it works.
Always have some Israeli flag explain to me.
That's how winning a war.
The guy from ISIS?
Aren't they anti-Semitic?
I thought, ISIS?
Well, they never attack Israel.
Oh, they did once and then apologized.
Do you know that?
unidentified
No, when?
kurt metzger
During the Syria conflict.
Oh, and also the IDF would patch up ISIS soldiers in Syria.
Do you know that?
I found that out.
John Jimmy Show.
It's amazing the shit you find out, and then you realize no one knows a goddamn thing about anything.
And then you, how easy it is.
Dude, when you see the head of a guy who John Kiriaku also told me very high chance was there in the Daniel Pearl beheading video, he's a founding member.
And fucking, if you watch the video of Petraeus sucking his dick on stage, Petraeus goes, now, full disclosure, we were opposite sides during the surge.
You know, the insurgent ISIS period.
unidentified
Yeah.
kurt metzger
That's who that guy is.
And they're talking like they're old friends.
Whoa.
Nobody knows that.
Yeah.
His name has been changed just like BB fucking Bilbo, not a Juhu.
joe rogan
Look at him now.
kurt metzger
He changed his name.
He doesn't dress like this.
He wears a suit.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
kurt metzger
Yo, shut up about ISIS if Trump's shaking his...
Is everybody like...
joe rogan
Hold on.
Go back to Trump's quote about him.
Go back.
Trump said he had a rough past, but added, we've all had a rough past.
kurt metzger
Yeah, ain't that the truth, brother?
Ain't that the truth?
joe rogan
Well, just imagine if that guy was really in the Daniel Pearl beheading video.
kurt metzger
I'm pretty sure he was.
joe rogan
And he had a rough past.
kurt metzger
Hey, oh, that's right.
We made all these terrorist groups.
joe rogan
We've all had a rough past.
kurt metzger
Well, some of us were programmed.
joe rogan
Doesn't Patricia Christ or whatever religion you are a part of doesn't it allow for forgiveness?
kurt metzger
Penelope Christ does, but I've, since we've done this show, I'm with the Patricia Christ.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
Dan Soder's mom sort of thing.
joe rogan
Don't they allow for forgiveness?
We've all had a rough past.
kurt metzger
Well, here's why I forgive ISIS, because I don't approve of their anti-Semitic rhetoric, and you know that.
Neither does my wife, Shoshana Rothin.
But credit, where credit is due.
They have never attacked Israel.
Al-Qaeda and ISIS, the two most anti-Semitic, mad about Israel terror groups.
You'd think they would because it's right there before you come here.
But no, they just attack us, which when you think about it, it makes no fucking sense as a plan, does it?
joe rogan
Not right now.
I'll have to think about it later.
kurt metzger
It never did.
If you had told me, dude, after 9-11, and people did, people were like, why are we going to Iraq?
That doesn't really make any fucking sense at all.
You know what I said?
Shut up.
That's all I said.
You know, like, even though that's a great point, why did we go there?
joe rogan
Yeah, no reason.
I used to have a bit about it.
kurt metzger
Well, there is a reason.
joe rogan
You don't know how dumb people are until you have a dumb president.
kurt metzger
Oh, well, I think he was a Manchurian candidate.
And the reason we went there is a thing called the Greater Israel Project.
So when you see Wesley Clark talking about the map.
Remember they said no war for oil?
We didn't get no oil out of that.
In fact, most oil companies said don't do it.
Except Halliburton, the oil company that got favoritism.
joe rogan
Did you ever see Coleman Hughes' take on that?
It's very interesting.
kurt metzger
I don't trust that motherfucker no more.
joe rogan
Coleman Hughes said, but no one saw the report.
He was just told what the contents of the report are.
Who?
Wesley Clark.
He never said, I saw the report.
kurt metzger
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
He never said I read a great report.
kurt metzger
Wow, Coleman.
I like when Coleman criticized you because who gives a fucking shit?
This is what happened.
You clearly were hitting everybody on BB's bucket list, number one.
Number two, I know Coleman got coached before he came on here.
Guy who I don't have nothing against, but he came on here to refute basic facts that I want to make it clear.
I'm not debating nobody.
I want you to convince me that I didn't see what I already saw.
I don't care about a debate.
I saw the crimes already because I'm on a new show.
It's very traumatic.
And I watch morons who aren't going to look.
And I could give them the video.
Not you.
But people, hey, look at the video.
I don't want to see it.
joe rogan
You're talking about Gaza.
kurt metzger
Dude, it could be anything.
It could be fucking anything.
Everybody.
joe rogan
Right, but specifically with Coleman, what are you talking about?
kurt metzger
Oh, Gaza, but also he did this wormy shit with Ivermectin with you.
He goes, well, if Big Pharma has made a lot of life, Big Pharma made Ivermectin, so they're not bad.
What the fuck are you talking about, Coleman?
Why would you say that?
Are you being paid to?
I can't fathom an argument that fucking stupid from a guy that smart unless he's getting paid.
I just can't fathom it.
Don't attack Big Pharma.
Who the fuck do you work for, asshole?
Are you hitting them bounties that the other idiots are hitting?
It's real fucked up.
I don't understand why people won't just tell the truth all the time.
It could end this whole bullshit if everybody stopped being a mercenary for two seconds, but they're not going to.
joe rogan
Well, there's too many data points when it comes to Ivermectin.
There's too many things that you could point to to say this is one of the worst drugs ever to demonize.
It was such a stupid move.
kurt metzger
Dude, they acted like, to this day, there's people, and I love to bring up that for some reason, you, not a doctor, all the other morons that said a thing were all wrong, including the people that should know better, like experts.
And you were right and not them.
And all these dumb fuck liberals want to move on from that, don't they?
Well, arguably, you could say it saved a lot.
No, it didn't save any fucking lives.
joe rogan
They still want to say it saved millions of lives.
There's still, without a doubt, when you were talking about these people that get bounties, without a doubt, there's doctors that get bounties.
kurt metzger
Yeah, $7.50 a head to put poison in your fucking kids.
We covered on Jimmy Show.
joe rogan
Mary Tally Bowden, she has a small practice, small practice in Texas.
She said she would have got $1.5 million if she had vaccinated everybody.
$1.5 million.
kurt metzger
Well, those loans are very expensive to be a doctor.
joe rogan
Do you know how crazy that is?
That's a small practice.
kurt metzger
Smangle as shit.
joe rogan
A small practice.
How many small practices are there?
How much money was being distributed?
kurt metzger
Yeah, so you think SNAP is a con?
How about doctors to put a fucking bioweapon in your kids at $7.50 a head?
People don't understand the scope of the problem at all.
They think they're going to vote a party in that's going to do so.
Oh, you got attacked.
We covered this because you said maybe time to stop thinking about left and right, which you are correct.
And you could tell who's no fucking good because they immediately recoil at the idea that left and right are bullshit, which they are.
joe rogan
When did I get attacked?
kurt metzger
I don't know.
I know you don't pay attention.
Yeah, good for you, but there's a story you covered on Jimmy's show.
I just want to point out to fucking.
joe rogan
It's so nice to not know when you're being attacked.
kurt metzger
Yeah, everybody's such an idiot with this shit.
They got sucked in immediately.
To even talk about the fucking Rogansphere.
Yo, go get your booster and then talk about the Rogan's fear.
You fuck.
Unfucking real.
There's people wearing masks still.
They still friends of mine that wear.
Oh, yeah.
If you transition to a woman, that's less of an uncomfortable thing than if you were going to wear a mask forever.
joe rogan
I'll show you something, but I don't want to shit on him because he's fragile.
We'll play it and we won't say anything.
What is going on with people that are still wearing masks?
Like, there's something deeply psychologically wrong with it because it doesn't work scientifically to prevent diseases.
kurt metzger
It never did.
joe rogan
But it's also a very weird thing that you're covering your face in this world.
kurt metzger
Well, maybe you don't want to be scanned.
joe rogan
Yeah, that makes sense.
But we're communicating with our faces.
When you talk to someone, you look in their eyes.
If someone's wearing sunglasses, it's weird, right?
But if someone's wearing a mask, that's fucking weird too.
I can't see your mouth.
I can't see your nose.
kurt metzger
I'm half deaf, so I have to lip read half of what you're fucking saying.
That's what I learned during the pandemic is that I've definitely damaged my hearing with my headphones over the years.
joe rogan
Really?
For sure.
You crank music in them.
Is that what it is?
kurt metzger
I was in New York for 20 years, dude.
You've got to drown out the outside world to get by, just to go on a subway.
I jumped on the track.
This is like very stupid, by the way, but I remember one time I jumped down the tracks to recover an iPod mini, not an iPhone, an iPod.
joe rogan
To recover one, you jumped down to get it?
kurt metzger
And I had to push myself back.
It's a lot deeper than you think it is when you jump down there.
joe rogan
Dude, what if you couldn't make it up?
kurt metzger
I made it up.
But I was like, oh, I didn't.
I was like, wow, but I needed that.
I couldn't listen to Subway noise.
And there's a Sikh guy that looked at me.
I was like, I couldn't believe I just risked my life and I got stuck.
joe rogan
AirPod.
kurt metzger
Because New York makes you fucking crazy.
New York is a big, dirty prison that makes you crazy.
You live on top.
Now, here's something good about it.
Every class, especially if you do drugs in New York, you're going to hang out with every level of society where you wouldn't in more of a car place.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
You know, like LA.
Yeah, I agree with that.
joe rogan
So it's more integrated.
kurt metzger
Yeah, it's more of a Babylon kind of experience, but everybody lives on top of each other.
You pay way too much for everything.
You know, it's, it's, that's why the thought of a 15-minute city, nobody was frightened by that in like New York because they're like, that's what I live in.
That would be different than my life now.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not healthy.
It's not healthy to be stacked like that on top of each other.
kurt metzger
Well, my immune system, I'll tell you what's not healthy.
They're not getting sun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
And I know friends had to get vitamin B and vitamin D and all that shit because you don't get sun like that.
And it turns out sun's not actually bad.
For some reason, they don't want you having sun.
They've been prescribing, you probably already talked about this, 10 times less vitamin D than you should get.
They've been recommending.
They've been recommending 10 times less than what you should have in vitamin D, which, by the way, would fight off a lot of these things that you're supposed to get shots for.
joe rogan
Oh, a shit ton.
And the best way to get vitamin D is from the sun.
kurt metzger
That's the thing I miss about LA is I was right by Runyon and I would go hike that every day.
joe rogan
And you feel better.
kurt metzger
And I had to have the sun like, I had to feel that on me.
And it really like, you know, no, there's something bad that you need that.
That's why it's crazy that someone's going to try to block it out.
A crazy person would do that.
joe rogan
It's not even just a vitamin, it's a hormone.
Vitamin D, it does so much for muscle development, brain function.
kurt metzger
I bet all the food grows from it.
How did I forget for 20 years that CO2 does indeed make trees, plants grow?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's more greenery right now than there was 100 years ago.
kurt metzger
Well, but I'm not sure why I was like, that's ridiculous.
Is it because an authority was like, no, you can't go by that?
joe rogan
Well, do you remember when Bill Gates was saying that it's ridiculous, the idea of growing more trees to get rid of some of the carbon?
That's ridiculous.
kurt metzger
Dr. Bill Gates, for some reason, it's fine for him to throw out his expertise, ain't it?
joe rogan
He literally said, aren't we science people or not?
He literally said that.
kurt metzger
What the fuck are you doing?
joe rogan
I'm seeing you find that.
Yeah, because it's such a crazy speech because everybody knows that plants literally exist on that.
kurt metzger
But it maybe existed to say that.
And I remember someone saying it, like Sarah Pay, somebody that was like, you know, you're supposed to hate the fake left and right.
So maybe Sarah Palin said it, and then Bill Maher said that's stupid, you know?
Some dynamic like that.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
But no, it's not stupid.
That's what they fuck.
That's why we have more greenery now.
joe rogan
It's literally plant food.
Not only that, it gives you more oxygen.
More plants, more oxygen.
Oh, what are we talking about?
kurt metzger
That's right.
I own all the seeds.
And, oh, right, I bought the farms, and now I control the food growth.
joe rogan
He was also the one telling us that we were going to have to stop eating meat, and they were all banking on that fucking plant meat that nobody wants to buy because it's terrible for you.
kurt metzger
Well, you know, though, this is my favorite thing about McDonald's all-beef pat because it's an old joke of like, why are you specifying?
joe rogan
Let's play this real quick.
Go from the beginning.
kurt metzger
I don't know.
joe rogan
Okay, I don't know.
unidentified
There's a lot of people who are very enamored with trees.
We've got trees on this stage.
kurt metzger
Fuck trees.
unidentified
Some people would even say that if you just planted enough trees, it could take care of the climate issue altogether.
And that's complete nonsense.
Okay.
I mean, are we the science people or are we the idiots?
Which one do we want to be?
I'm going to call it a bunch of people.
kurt metzger
Oh, my God.
unidentified
I'm going to ask him what he thinks.
At the very moment.
joe rogan
Okay, that's a little bit out of context because what he's saying there is that planting trees is not going to fix climate change.
That's a little different.
kurt metzger
Right.
joe rogan
I'm just saying there.
But he was also talking about chopping down trees.
It was part of one of the things that he was saying that was very controversial.
He's talking about removing trees.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well, the climate summit, you know, they're paving a whole part of the rainforest to make this special highway for the visitors to the climate summit.
This is one of the funniest.
And meanwhile, oh, maybe they need a highway, though, in that part of it.
No, it's only for the climate summit.
That's it.
Nobody else can use it ever again.
So, yeah, first of all, are we the science people?
No, this is a country full of fucking morons.
You're not supposed to believe science.
I don't know why people think that.
You're supposed to.
Science is the opposite of belief.
That's like supposed to be the things you can test.
So you're not supposed to hide the test results from people or not do the tests, such as with the goddamn vaccine that they didn't.
They tested it on you.
Well, not you.
But they tested it on you, the jerk off people.
Remember?
Operation Warp Speed.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
That Trump attacked Massey for not going along with.
And now the last guy that's on us is attacking him.
And I got friends who are like, yeah, Massey annoyed me.
Why?
No specifics.
Just high school feelings.
Oh, where do you trust Candace?
Yo, if you think that the story of TPUSA hinges on Candace Owens, it does not.
We're going to make that clear to everybody.
Oh, if you don't like Candace, who gives a fucking shit about it?
It has nothing to do with whether that story has some problems with it.
joe rogan
Which story?
The Charlie Kirk assassination story?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
Which it obviously does.
joe rogan
It obviously does.
kurt metzger
A lot of people have been like, who even cares about Epsom anymore?
A lot of people have said.
joe rogan
Who's saying that?
Who's saying that?
kurt metzger
I can think of three people off the top of my head.
joe rogan
Online or in real life?
kurt metzger
In person.
jamie vernon
Really?
kurt metzger
Which like, well, and I was like, well, you know, the people that were part of that are still in power, so that's why.
joe rogan
To me, that's like saying the new season of Stranger Things is out, and I don't want to watch it.
kurt metzger
I don't want to watch it.
Stranger Things, those actors, they aged weird.
joe rogan
Well, they separated the seasons by years.
There was like big gaps in the seasons.
That show is really difficult to make, apparently.
kurt metzger
I mean, those kids grew into some bizarre-looking people.
joe rogan
My point is, like, everybody wants to know what the fuck is happening.
You've been talking nonstop about this for three years to say who cares about it anymore is crazy.
That's crazy talk.
kurt metzger
It's like, well, I think it's hand-me-down Sinclair media talk because it's always the same phrase, and I feel like it's a hypnotic phrase.
It's easy to put in somebody's head.
joe rogan
Do you see that thing that they did where they showed one of the photographs?
It's Trump with all these women, and he took a photo with them.
But in the photograph, they blacked out the faces of the women to make it look like perhaps they were underage.
Oh, like that they were victims.
Well, instead of just being Trump with some women.
kurt metzger
Let's be clear.
The idea that Democrats want to get to the bottom of this is, remember, if you brought up that scene at all, you were a conspiracy theorist for the entire time before Trump got in again.
Remember that?
In fact, they said, why would you bring it up?
The reason any Democrat would possibly bring it up now is because they know Trump cannot reveal it.
So they're just going to use it to make hay for whatever.
You know, I'm sure once when AOC gets in, she'll get to the bottom of it.
I'm sure when fucking, what a joke, dude.
What a fucking.
joe rogan
Once we know that the Trump administration isn't getting to the bottom of it, no one is.
kurt metzger
Oh, you don't trust Cash no more?
He looks so reliable on here.
unidentified
Wow.
kurt metzger
He talks like a goddamn Zoomer.
Just so you know, nobody thinks it's weird.
That guy lives with a dude, you know, his supposed honeypot girlfriend.
They're suing.
She's suing everybody.
They said she's an IDF, honeypot, or whatever the fuck.
His girlfriend?
Yeah.
Who's she suing?
By the way, that should clear up those Jew rumors.
Am I right?
Oh, you really put that one to bed, lady.
So he lives with a man named Moldoon, a rich donor in Vegas.
He got some FBI rule changed so he could live with a guy.
That's why he has to fly out on a private jet because he don't live with his hot girlfriend at all.
And if you watch him on Steve Miller's wife's podcast, you could tell they look like her gay best friend.
That's what it comes off.
The energy to me comes off that way.
joe rogan
It don't come off like a different energy than when he was on here.
kurt metzger
If that's your not a spy girlfriend, okay, you're telling me you're going to go live with an old guy in Vegas.
You're going to live with an older man.
That's what you're going to do as the head of the FBI.
joe rogan
Maybe the guy's cool.
kurt metzger
I don't know.
joe rogan
He's got great stories.
kurt metzger
I remember someone telling me.
joe rogan
Maybe he's like Whistler from Blade, like that old guy you hang out with.
Like Blade and Whistler, they weren't gay to each other.
kurt metzger
You know what?
They were now that you brought up Whistler.
I realized that was not a natural relationship.
joe rogan
I always wondered why those guys are living together.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Whistler's making all these fucking messages.
Fight the vampires.
kurt metzger
I've been training you since you were a boy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Literally.
In a warehouse.
kurt metzger
Since I took you from Sentinel Island, I raised you.
joe rogan
Touch in and kill vampires with wooden knives.
kurt metzger
Chris Gustav is another guy named as an MK handler.
unidentified
Really?
kurt metzger
I don't know if he is.
I'm just saying people.
You can find out all this shit very easy.
It's literally like, is somebody going to look or not?
joe rogan
I literally never thought about that plot twist.
kurt metzger
Well, now it's all I can see because of the amount, the sheer amount of unresolved, insane things that for some reason you're not supposed to put them together into a bigger picture.
You're supposed to be academic.
Okay, so Epstein Diddy, fucking the Playboy Mansion, the Mark Dutreau case in Belgium, where they all were out in the street over that, which I didn't hear about at the time, obviously.
That island in Wisconsin where they're taking boys, the Franklin scandal.
You could trace a whole thing where there's clearly a network.
And by the way, the smallest part of the network is the child trafficking, even though that's obscene.
Epstein, Nick Bryant, you got to get him one because he's the first guy to get Epstein's black book.
Okay.
And we had him on Jimmy's show.
Yo, probably all the Five Eyes countries' Intel money goes through.
Epstein was in charge of that.
The finance thing is so much bigger.
Okay.
You got to think like a piece of shit, dinoid.
So these are all resources, right?
Gold, drugs, kids, human slaves.
And so that's, they will never do disclosure.
Let me put it this way.
Aliens, these are not separate topics.
They're all part of one thing.
And they're never ever going to disclose shit.
Because if they ever do, the Rizzler, those fat fucks from that family that goes to, what are they, Walmart and sausage rolls?
unidentified
What?
kurt metzger
The Costco family?
If the Costco, listen, if that Costco family finds out what these motherfuckers have been up to for the last, since World War II ended, they will drop their sausage rolls and rip them apart limb from limb, like a zombie movie.
Because it's that bad.
So that's why, oh, I think this year they're going to have a hearing in a skiff and we're going to find out what the wow, that really paid off, huh?
Let's go talk to some fucking, you know, French Illuminati motherfucker.
Oh, the ultra-dimensionals?
They just stringing along with bullshit like a J.J. Abrams movie or show, Lost.
They do Lost.
Mystery Box.
joe rogan
So what do you think the whole UFO thing is then?
Because it's for sure something that's available.
I think the name.
kurt metzger
Clearly, because the names change so often from UFO to UAP.
joe rogan
Well, not so often.
It's only a couple of times I've done it.
kurt metzger
Every time.
So UFOs don't exist, right?
Even though it just means something unidentified, but it doesn't exist.
It's swamp gas.
Then they go, no, they do exist, but we don't know what they are.
And then they change the brand change, like Diddy.
Those people get smushed at his fucking show.
Now his name is Puffy.
You understand?
joe rogan
Got it.
kurt metzger
Like a shitty airline with a, like a Frontier or something.
Yeah, Frontier, some bigger airline buys a shitty airline.
So they're substandard planes, they can still use them.
Then when something bad happens, they just cut that off and they got the maximum value.
Okay?
It's just one scam that these fuckers do over and over again.
And yeah, it is for money, but at the top levels, dude, money is secrets of the real currency at the top, tippy top levels.
joe rogan
Right.
But so what do you think it is?
What do you think is going on?
kurt metzger
I think a fucking cult of basically there's like two races of humans on the earth and it's not based on skin color or any shit.
It's based on psychopathy.
Okay.
And there's people that can pull the trigger and people that can't.
And there's people got to be trained and conditioned to do it and people that don't have to be.
And all that royalty.
Don't know why we still have that in the world at all.
I don't know why anybody thinks that's, you know, the commies are bad.
Why are there kings at all?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Why do you like that shit?
It's crazy.
It's inbred.
People that are so fucking inbred, that's probably why they look like fucking reptiles.
That's why their heads aren't shaped fucking right.
And they think they're the great, they think that they come from a different lineage than you.
And so there's all kinds of stupid cults all over the place that have these like, you know, everybody can pin it on the Jews like and like, oh, they think they're chosen.
But that's all the cults, man.
That's all of them think they're the chosen ones.
The Mormons think it.
unidentified
Yep.
kurt metzger
The Jehovah's thought it.
joe rogan
Catholics.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
Well, why would you be in it if you're not the one who's right?
So I don't even hold that against nobody.
But where you know you're dealing with fucking lizard people, metaphorically, but maybe real, is the obsession with their bloodline and they've got a divine right to do this or that.
When you hear people talking about their divine right to fucking kill you or do whatever, there's your problem.
It's not, you know, you hear about bloodlines.
It sounds so, it's just royalty.
And you don't get to know, by the way, who like the real powers are.
We're like a Raj state like India.
The world, I mean.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
So if that's the case, and we both agree that's the case.
So what is the UAP thing?
kurt metzger
Probably a bunch of different stuff.
there's probably drones, there's probably just orbs that...
Plasma physics, by the way, I tell everybody, read Joseph P. Farrell, because that's...
Guy's got some of the best work on that.
Plasma, the fourth state of matter that in school they didn't teach us about for some reason.
There's gas, liquid, solid, right?
The three states.
No, there's four.
And the fourth one is plasma, which I would describe imperfectly as like if you heat up gas till it's like the steam of steam or something.
Plasma, the fourth state of matter.
That's what everything has to do with.
joe rogan
Is that like 90-something percent of the universe?
kurt metzger
Yeah.
And by the way, there's cold plasma and hot plasma.
You could make an AI.
joe rogan
Look up, what percentage of the universe consists of plasma?
kurt metzger
So why would I not learn that in school when I learned the other things?
Because they didn't want you looking into it.
They classified an area of physics for 80 years, for sure.
And that's what the Nazis were doing with their stupid bell was plasma shit.
And plasma, plasma, that's the thing, plasma.
Lex Friedman's dad's a plasma physicist.
I was trying to ask him about it when I got interrupted by the keynote genre.
joe rogan
Okay.
Plasma makes up about 99% or more of the visible ordinary matter in the universe.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
So nearly all the stuff that is not dark matter or dark energy is in a plasma state.
Wow.
kurt metzger
So you could make a really cool AI with plasma if you knew how to manipulate it right.
joe rogan
That is a crazy statement.
kurt metzger
I'll bet some fucking freak in an underground base knows how to upload their consciousness into some fucking shitty plasma thing.
joe rogan
You think so?
kurt metzger
Yeah, that's what Lucifer, I think, is, a plasma ball of inverted souls, which they're going to tell you is Jesus and it's not, by the way.
Anybody telling you that a man-made AI Jesus is a Jesus?
I mean, that's a Luciferian.
That's how you spot them.
So you know.
joe rogan
Then I'm a Luciferian because I've been telling people that.
kurt metzger
Well, you hang out with tech people and you'd probably be me.
joe rogan
Oh, it's just a silly idea that I had.
The silly idea is that AI is going to make better versions of AI.
And if it just keeps doing that, ultimately it's going to be like a god.
kurt metzger
That means it's already happened, and it probably is there, and that's where you know this.
joe rogan
I don't think it's happened, because I don't think they have the power source for it yet.
But I think once they figure that out, they will.
kurt metzger
I don't think they can make an AI come to life, but here's one thing.
unidentified
Why not?
kurt metzger
Well, I don't think they have yet.
They're faking it with Indians in a room half the time.
Okay, I don't know if you know the level of scam here.
It's glorified bots.
But what you could do, here's something you could do.
You could take octopus, fuck, you know how an octopus's brain is spread out?
There's a lot of, you know, like that butterfly that they grow brain tissue on a chip and it thinks it's a butterfly.
You've seen that?
unidentified
Yes.
kurt metzger
So that right there, that's how they do it.
But it can't create life from nothing.
That's the thing that they can't do.
joe rogan
Not life from nothing, but the idea is it creates a digital artificial life.
And that this digital artificial life, it just keeps improving upon it.
It doesn't even have to have a physical form.
It just has to be capable of doing things.
It has to be capable of automation.
I mean, if it's one gigantic computer and it uses automation and uses machines to create better versions, uses them to design better construction methods, better metallurgy.
kurt metzger
Yeah, yeah.
I've heard this.
You've heard them talk about it.
I don't say it's going to be good.
joe rogan
I don't know if it's going to be good either.
But what I'm saying is it makes sense that if that keeps going, it's almost like a God.
If it just keeps getting more and more.
unidentified
Of course it is.
kurt metzger
They say that literally, it's going to be like a God, but I'm just saying that wouldn't be Jesus.
That would be crazy.
joe rogan
Well, whatever Jesus was.
kurt metzger
I'm sure Jesus is a guy.
Are you Jim Carrey guy where he's like the Christ secretion?
joe rogan
What's that?
kurt metzger
You ever seen Jim Carrey blather about the Christ secretion on Lord McDonald?
unidentified
What?
kurt metzger
I don't even forgot about this somehow.
joe rogan
What was he saying?
kurt metzger
He's explaining how what Christ really is, a secretion from your.
Dude, it's Rosicrucian horseshit.
joe rogan
Okay.
kurt metzger
Okay.
They're all about alchemy.
These people are in alchemy.
joe rogan
There's a tremendous amount of support for the idea that it was a real person.
So the question is, how much of what he said and what he did, which was all relayed after his death, how much of that was accurate?
And what was it?
kurt metzger
Here's the main point of Jesus.
And I don't, I wouldn't say, because I have a strong feeling that the Bible has a lot of Epstein redactions, you know?
I feel like we only have parts of the, it's, you should think of the Bible as a library, not as a book.
That's what Bible means.
It means a library.
So it's a bunch of books.
The whole point of the books.
joe rogan
Not only that.
Some of those books were banned.
Just like the library.
kurt metzger
They weren't banned.
joe rogan
The Book of Enoch was.
kurt metzger
It wasn't banned.
It just wasn't put in the canon.
joe rogan
It wasn't put in the canons.
It was initially was.
kurt metzger
Right.
But why did they make the canon they made?
The whole point of that library.
What?
joe rogan
rabbis the reason that that's how the book of enoch got removed it didn't align with the torah that why would the catholic you're telling me the christian way back in the day like before all that this is in the dead sea scrolls It exists.
And then when it gets to the Old Testament, it doesn't exist anymore.
And the references in the Old Testament, there's like a reference to Enoch and Jude, there is Ezekiel.
Yeah, so, but it was a part of their canon.
In the Ethiopian Bible, it still exists.
kurt metzger
Right.
Theirs is a little bit wilder.
joe rogan
They had the old one.
kurt metzger
Look, the bottom line is the whole purpose of the library, we'll call it, so you understand it's a bunch of books, is to just show the lineage of Jesus to justify Jesus being the Messiah.
That's the whole point of what the book is.
So all the stories in there, if they're weird or whatever, the only reason they're in there is to show you a line.
I'm not saying that's true or not.
I'm just saying that's what the point of it is.
Okay.
joe rogan
That's maybe the New Testament you're talking about then?
No, the whole thing is Jesus as opposed to the New Testament.
kurt metzger
It's a lot like the Dune series.
It's about the Queen Satz Hatarat.
Okay.
And so now you'll hear a lot of people tell you like Caesar's Messiah kind of shit.
In fact, you've never talked to the Cohen brothers, have you?
joe rogan
No, I love those guys, though.
kurt metzger
So Hail Caesar, I like that movie a lot.
I didn't like it when I first saw a nice one.
joe rogan
Which one is Hail Caesar?
kurt metzger
The one with Clooney is the Roman.
It's about the guy who plays Thanos, plays a studio fixer named Mike Mannix.
joe rogan
Oh, that's like one of the rare ones that I never saw.
kurt metzger
Okay, so critics.
How did you hear what?
unidentified
2016.
kurt metzger
Critics didn't like it because they were like, first of all, this Mannix guy was a piece of shit in real life.
At the end, he goes to work for Lockheed in the movie, by the way.
Or he decides not to to still work for the movies.
And it makes it kind of Of idealized and people were like offended.
But I think if I could ask him, I think that the movie's not about that.
What it's actually about is Caesar's Messiah, which is the idea that Caesar invented the whole idea of Jesus.
And I think they're telling that story through this 50s story just from watching it because there's a whole part where Joseph, the notary, played by Jonah Hill, and Scarjo's pregnant by some director, and he says he's the dad on a stamp.
I think they're trying to tell that story.
Now, I don't believe the Caesar's Messiah thing because it's too much of a one thing people will tell you is it definitely spread very quickly, okay?
And people that think he's real or not, Christianity spread pretty quick.
I think it's populism.
I think that's what spread because Christianity is populism.
And what do rich oligarchs fucking hate the most?
They hate populism.
That's why they like a Lindsey Graham Republican and not what Trump pretended to be Republican because they hate populism is an insult word that they invented.
And what is populism?
That's when all the blacks and whites, everybody stops fighting about horseshit.
joe rogan
But that's the case with that.
Why did Rome adopt Christianity?
kurt metzger
Because they had no choice.
The Mithra cult, first of all, so the Mithraism, which like Persia had already probably infiltrated by that time.
Think of it as the Freemasonry or the Bohemian Grove of its time.
That's Mithraism.
So now I got to fucking absorb this populist cause and I have to absorb its energy and disperse it through my kingdom.
And they did.
Like they always do.
Any real movement, it will be appropriated by the powers and they will twist it.
Because in Christianity, you really can't be a fucking soldier for America.
Like, that's not, that does not align with Christianity at all.
Conquest and fucking...
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
kurt metzger
You're not allowed to kill Christians for your country.
If you're a Christian, I'm not saying I'm a Christian because I'm not.
Sometimes I act like a Christian, but most of the time I do not.
So I would never say that, you know?
But think of the fucking crazy people running.
That's why TPUSA is so fucked when I watch it.
It's like, yo, ain't nobody a Christian in that shit.
Not one motherfucker there is a fucking Christian.
It's a collection of intel and socio-political shit and a money scam.
Like all politics.
Like all, like all of them.
But that's the Republican one.
And it's real creepy if you watch it.
joe rogan
I don't.
kurt metzger
Oh, well, you know what?
joe rogan
What do you watch?
What do you watch that's creepy about it?
kurt metzger
You didn't watch Amfest?
joe rogan
Well, I know when my father doesn't swear off of all of it.
kurt metzger
Do you think this is creepy?
Your husband dies?
You come out in a sparkly outfit with fireworks shooting off like you're fucking Tony Hinchcliffe in a stadium show?
joe rogan
The memes are amazing.
kurt metzger
Yeah, it's not good.
joe rogan
It's like most people mourning and then her.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
Now's a good time to bring the spectacle back to rock, I guess.
Oh, they set up the tent where he got killed to take selfies in.
Does that seem odd to anybody?
The tent where Charlie Kirk got killed, it was at Amfest.
You could take a selfie in it.
unidentified
What?
kurt metzger
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
kurt metzger
Yeah, but Candace is a grifter.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
kurt metzger
Fucking retail.
Oh, and this bitch sucks too, by the way.
joe rogan
But it is a replica of the booth Charlie Coop.
unidentified
What?
kurt metzger
I've heard it was the real one, but either way, there's no good explanation for doing that.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
They got a prove-me-wrong booth.
It was set up where Charlie Kirk was assassinated in as a fan photo booth.
That is nuts.
But it's also.
kurt metzger
It's called a potheo song.
joe rogan
So hold on.
But it also is a replica of the booth that he used to do his show in.
kurt metzger
That's the one that you were a fan.
joe rogan
Right.
But it's also, he did hundreds of shows in that booth other than the one he got killed.
And it could be people that want to take a picture of it because they were a fan of his show.
kurt metzger
Yo, if you look.
It's crazy.
I hate magical occult shit, even though for some reason in the course of studying, trying to find out for a joke about what the tall white aliens were.
That's how I started out because it sounded so funny to me that there's like these taller, whiter things in charge.
joe rogan
Yeah, Nordics.
kurt metzger
Not Nordics.
joe rogan
Nordics and tall whites.
kurt metzger
The tall whites are out by the bottom.
But there's this insane overlap, dude.
There's a crazy overlap between that and wizard bullshit.
Okay.
joe rogan
They probably are wizards.
That's probably where it came from.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
So you got to get, well, I'm not saying you specifically, but everybody's got to get over the idea.
It's like the label.
Words are just like conceptual prisons.
There's concepts flying around.
You imprison them in a word.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
And that's why you're not supposed to say the name of God in a lot of ways because that would impose limits on the infinite.
So that's like blasphemous.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
When people see these things, and there's a lot of stories of this, a friend of mine, Nathaniel Gillis, who my fans call Smart Shane, he's Adam on Turp with Kirk.
It's like, ask Smart Shane about that.
But how do you put it to me recently?
He goes, he goes, a lot of these plasma, they're like compressed entities.
So the sigil is a big important part of it.
A crop circle is a sigil or a brand is a sigil.
But think of it as like information being stored on something.
And they're like these plasma compressed.
And so because they're like in a dimension above you, basically, you got to be groomed with movies and fantasy so that you, when I fucking look through your head and project myself through it, you can project a form onto me.
Do you know what I mean?
It sounds kind of weird, but like think of the Adam and Eve, their ability to name the animals.
That was their job.
It sounds kind of hokey, but I think it has to do with something like, you know, quantum theory, where the thing's not there till you look at it, or when you do DMT and they go, look at this, because they don't exist until you look at them and they know it.
So they need to exist and your attention, your focus.
So consciousness.
Yeah, these are just stupid plasma blobs, probably a lot of these things, but they could, if I'm in a dimension above you and I can look in your fucking brain, I can see, okay, this guy has patterns for a religious thing or an alien thing, and I can appear to you as that, right?
unidentified
Ooh.
kurt metzger
So there's something with that.
I'm not saying that's the whole thing, but there's definitely a part of it that's that.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
Hold that thought.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hold that thought because I have to piss.
kurt metzger
I do too.
joe rogan
Okay, good.
Perfect.
Hold that thought.
Okay, where were we at exactly?
Plasma compressed entities.
They appear either as religion or as alien, depending on if you're secular or religious.
Okay.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
We'll be right back.
All right, we're back.
So, Jamie, explain this to everybody.
jamie vernon
These guys are on a podcast called From First Principles.
unidentified
I think they're some physics nerds.
joe rogan
Okay.
jamie vernon
And they're explaining the relevancy of the professor who was killed.
unidentified
I think this was recorded before he died.
jamie vernon
It's very interesting, I'll tell you that.
kurt metzger
Let's see.
krishna choudhary
Things that happen in the 21st century.
Quite an amazing story.
Nuno Lerario, MIT professor.
This is the paper that makes him famous.
unidentified
Okay.
Okay.
krishna choudhary
This is the one that has the most citations.
He was at PPL at the time, Prison Plasma Physics Lab.
This is the one that puts him on the map of plasma physics because he solves this 50-year-old problem.
unidentified
Not bad.
krishna choudhary
Not bad now.
Then he became a professor at MIT, became full professor.
And in 2004, he was the director of the Plasma Science and Fusion Center at MIT.
And that MIT PSFC spun out and created Commonwealth Fusion Systems, which is designing something called Spark.
It is a small fusion reactor.
I mean, this, it looks kind of big.
Mate, compared to fusion reactors, that is small.
Okay?
That is quite small.
The goal is to be the first device to achieve a Q factor greater than one.
A Q factor is basically net energy gain, which is how much energy you put in, how much you get out, the ratio of that.
If you have greater than one, then whatever is that greater than one, you can use to power a turbine, which creates electricity.
Effectively, what they're trying to do is have these magnets go at 12 Tesla.
12 Tesla is insanely strong.
unidentified
Yeah.
krishna choudhary
Okay.
Yeah.
Several orders of magnitude above the magnetic field of the earth.
And what they're doing is using these magnets to confine the plasma into a donut, spin it around really fast, and then have that plasma in that spinning do the fusion.
unidentified
Yes.
krishna choudhary
So the hydrogen is going to combine to make helium, release a bunch of energy.
Yes.
And then that energy is going to be used to create electricity.
unidentified
That's what they're going to try to capture.
And the point is, you need that 12 Tesla because you need to be able to confine the plasma.
Yes.
And that's the reason for that scale.
krishna choudhary
Exactly.
And at that scale, all of a sudden, Luero's legacy matters, right?
All of the theories that he's positive at these high Lundquist numbers.
unidentified
Yes.
krishna choudhary
That's what matters.
So any code that you have to contain the plasma needs to rely on his theory.
unidentified
We hope that those around him at the lab, you know, once grieving has passed, you know, continue to aggressively pursue his vision.
krishna choudhary
Yeah.
unidentified
And the work that he's already done because it's a huge foundation.
krishna choudhary
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's amazing, you know, and it could change the world.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
Fun fact.
It was after Afghanistan by the way, fun fact, and that's why Joseph P. Farrell, I can't recommend him enough, Joseph, Dr. Joseph P. Farrell.
The Nazi bell they supposedly found, that's what that bell supposedly did.
It spun plasma in a field like that.
So the idea has been around forever.
If this guy, I think it's been correct.
unidentified
Why did you hear that?
joe rogan
That the Nazi Bell was a plasma field.
kurt metzger
Well, okay, so the guy that wrote the book about the Nazi Bell, the book came out in the 70s.
And also I had the, oh, dude, I fucking feel bad.
I'm forgetting the guy's name.
He's from the FBI.
He studied the Sonoma Aero Club and the NIMSA, which was another air.
This before the Wright brothers and shit.
Walter Bosley, ex-FBI guy who did a lot of great work studying this shit about these arrow clubs.
Remember the airship mysteries of the 1800s?
Okay, so there's one where the thing lands and the guy says, Yeah, man back east is financing this, and it's J.P. Morgan is who the guy was talking about.
And so later, the Wright brothers, the Wright brothers weren't the first people to fly.
I highly doubt they were.
unidentified
Really?
kurt metzger
You got to look up NIMSA.
Walter Bosley, great work.
Joseph P. Farrell, great fucking work.
And Bosley was on my show.
I haven't gotten Farrell on, but I want to.
And then Dark Journalist Dude is how I discovered.
Well, I learned Joseph P. Farrell before that, but Dark Journalist January, that guy does killer work.
I don't know.
I look at a lot of good shit, dude.
But plasma physics, the bottom line, plasma has been a thing.
joe rogan
Nazi Bell.
kurt metzger
Yeah, there was supposedly a rotating plasma.
joe rogan
Right.
So who wrote about that?
kurt metzger
The initial book about the bell, I can't remember, but Joe Farrell wrote a bunch of books about it.
joe rogan
And what is it?
kurt metzger
A demon in the I-Corps or E-Corp, it's called.
That's the book you should get about it.
joe rogan
What was the science?
Like, how did they, what were they trying to do, and what were they using?
Because if you can rotate a plasma like that, how did the Nazis get plasma into this bell?
Like, what are they doing?
kurt metzger
It sounded very much like what they were talking about.
joe rogan
Right, but we're talking about 1944.
kurt metzger
Yeah, it's like an electric, you need an electrical field, like a, I forget, 12 Tesla or whatever he said.
I don't really know what any of those measurements mean, but you just need the field to contain it.
And then you rotate it, you get something called torsion physics, which so the bell is like to contain the plasma.
joe rogan
What is the conventional description for that Nazi bell thing?
What do they think it is?
I don't, what do you mean?
kurt metzger
They said it didn't work or something.
jamie vernon
I think.
kurt metzger
Oh, you had Jay from Project Unity on talking about it.
joe rogan
Did he talk about the Nazi bell?
kurt metzger
He talked about some good shit, dude, because he saw orbs.
joe rogan
Yes.
kurt metzger
My girl had an orb over her once.
She tells me, casually tells me this story.
I know I accuse her of cheating.
I go, what do you love that orb?
Did you fuck that orb?
I just get jealous.
joe rogan
What is the conventional explanation for the Nazi bell?
jamie vernon
I don't know if it's real.
joe rogan
Is it real?
kurt metzger
And supposedly the Kexberg Acorn, which is the UFO that landed in Pennsylvania.
joe rogan
Which one's that?
kurt metzger
If you look up Kecksburg, Pennsylvania, Acorn, there's this thing that appeared in the 70s that supposedly is the Nazi bell that had traveled through time.
unidentified
Yeah.
kurt metzger
Now, that's that's kind of far out, but that's what?
Yeah, you never heard of this?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
What is that?
jamie vernon
I will say this.
unidentified
I also saw this on the internet.
joe rogan
That looks like clay pottery.
kurt metzger
There's the right.
looks fake as shit.
jamie vernon
They say it's a picture of the bell at right back.
kurt metzger
Yeah, that was the – oh, that's Kecksburg Airport.
What?
joe rogan
Oh, I want that to be real so bad.
jamie vernon
It looks fake.
kurt metzger
It looks so fake.
joe rogan
It looks like a kid made it.
kurt metzger
Dude, imagine Star Trek, okay?
Imagine they're on their five-year mission, but nobody on Earth knows Star Trek is a thing.
That's what's probably happening.
joe rogan
Zoom in on that?
Zoom in on that again?
The bell?
Look how crazy it is.
jamie vernon
It has the same writing on it.
joe rogan
God, I want that to be real.
jamie vernon
But I also just noticed this, the corner of the picture.
I think it says Kexberg on it.
joe rogan
Oh, Keck the Frog.
kurt metzger
Wait, that's supposed to be a photo?
joe rogan
They're fucking with you?
jamie vernon
Yeah, so this says it's a photo.
The photo has a caption here.
It says, right, Pat Airfield.
It's handwritten.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at the photo again.
I mean, it's a photo.
Right.
The photo looks fake.
jamie vernon
It does, doesn't it?
joe rogan
It looks really fake.
kurt metzger
I mean, it looks extremely fake.
joe rogan
It looks very fake.
But, God, I want it to be real so bad.
I'm like trying to find a way that it's real.
kurt metzger
Well, they just executed a guy who fucking was making breakthroughs in plasma that supposedly already happened in Germany.
joe rogan
No, no, yeah, he's the same guy that went to Brown University.
Supposedly he executed someone there, too.
kurt metzger
It is?
I thought it wasn't.
joe rogan
I think they thought it was the same guy.
And then he killed himself.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well.
joe rogan
Find that.
Search that.
Because I think that is the case.
I think that is what at least that's what they're saying.
kurt metzger
You know what the purpose of MK was, right?
It was to make spies, sex people that could change, like I'm gay or I'm straight, depending on what you need to get the info.
I can kill you.
I could fucking do it and not remember it.
That was the whole point of the Manchurian candidate program.
Right.
Which we started doing because supposedly the Asians were doing it, the commies.
joe rogan
Dun, dun, dun.
kurt metzger
But no, it's an old art that comes from a long time ago going back to Egypt.
unidentified
Really?
kurt metzger
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
The Egyptians did it?
kurt metzger
Oh, dude.
Windows on the World, another great Mark Windows I had on Derby Curb.
And that guy is great because he really, he has a video called Egyptian Crowd Control.
And he explains a society based on OCD.
joe rogan
Brown shooting suspect, grueling academic climate may have taken mental toll, says ex-classmates.
Yeah, Flaudio Valente and one of the victims, F.G. Lorio, both studied at notoriously challenging Tecnico de Lisbon.
jamie vernon
That's the guy we just watched the video about.
joe rogan
So the guy that we just watched the video about is him and that guy both were at the same university.
So he killed that guy.
They are saying he killed that guy, right?
So he killed both that guy and the person at the end.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
How many weird shootings are we up to now where there's all these weird details and we should shut up about it?
joe rogan
That is a weird one.
kurt metzger
The guy that shot Trump's ear, remember that one?
I guess we should forget about it.
joe rogan
They both graduated in 2000.
Contemporaries of the two men described the academic environment as emotionally grueling.
Only one was willing to go on the record, but several others expressed similar opinions.
He was described as brilliant and competitive, but willing to help his colleagues out.
He finished top of his class with an average grade of 19 out of 20, unusually high score for Technico.
L'Oreo, who is said to be an excellent student but more easygoing than Valente, finished with an average grade of 16 out of 20.
Which one's L'Oreal?
jamie vernon
That's the guy who died, the MIT professor.
joe rogan
Wow.
So he was the less good student.
So this guy was probably pissed at the less good student.
That's why he whacked him.
kurt metzger
Yeah, no, I'm sure that's why not anything to do with plasma physics.
joe rogan
Having known Claudio and having had a good relationship with him, we can't find any other explanation than a serious mental health problem exacerbated by resentment for not having achieved the academic career he dreamed of.
kurt metzger
Look at my jerk-off motions I'm making while you say that.
joe rogan
You don't believe it?
kurt metzger
No.
joe rogan
You think it's MK Ultra?
kurt metzger
Hey, what happened to the guy that blew his Tesla truck up?
And then they said he was mad because the kid wasn't his and it wasn't.
joe rogan
What happened to that guy?
kurt metzger
I don't know.
joe rogan
Sean Ryan.
kurt metzger
Remember Sean Ryan had the goods and we never heard about it again?
joe rogan
Didn't Sean Ryan get a letter from the guy or something?
kurt metzger
Yeah, a letter of nonsense.
and then he said he had some kind, and we just never spoke about it again.
jamie vernon
I came up with the Minnesota conspiracy, too, because remember there was a guy that killed someone that voted in the...
kurt metzger
Yes, that's right.
You're right about that.
jamie vernon
He had a letter I just was reading.
kurt metzger
Oh, my God.
You know what I saw when we were looking at that?
joe rogan
The Minnesota one is nuts because the lady that was whacked was the one lady that didn't vote for health care for the illegals.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
And she was, you ever see the speech that she gave?
How terrified she was?
kurt metzger
Yes.
joe rogan
When she gave the speech.
Literally, her voice was cracking.
I know some are going to be harmed by this.
kurt metzger
It reminded me of Charlie Kirk's final text messages about how they think they're.
Yo, the things that we covered this on Jimmy's show.
For three weeks before he died, they were all piling on him that he's an anti-Semite because he had Dave Smith on and fucking Laura Loomer, that piece of shit.
She goes, why don't you admit you're an anti-Semite?
I don't think Charlie Kirk was an anti-Semite.
He called it ethnic cleansing on Patrick Bett Values show.
joe rogan
Called what ethnic cleansing?
kurt metzger
Gaza.
unidentified
Oh, right.
kurt metzger
That's a big no-no.
And then his funders were like, hey, what if you die?
Who's going to take over?
That's the first thing they say to you when you come in.
joe rogan
He also said, was there a stand down?
Was there a stand-down order?
He talked about that on Patrick Bett David.
kurt metzger
Guess what?
If you watch Israeli news, there was.
It's called the Hannibal Direct.
joe rogan
Go back to that, Jamie.
What were we pulling up?
jamie vernon
So this is, it's typed out here, obviously, but it says this is the handwritten original.
kurt metzger
Oh, Lance Bolter, this maniac.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
He's trained.
He said Tim Waltz wanted this done.
kurt metzger
That's right.
joe rogan
Well, he says, dear Kash Patel, my name is Dr. Vance Luther Boltler.
Bolter.
Bolter E-D.
What is that?
Ed D?
What is that?
jamie vernon
I think an education degree.
joe rogan
Okay.
kurt metzger
I mean, don't bother me.
joe rogan
I am the shooter at large in Minnesota involved in the it says something shoe two shootings.
kurt metzger
It's handwritten I think I was trained by military people off the books starting in college.
That's a very common thing.
joe rogan
I have been on projects since that time in Eastern Europe, North America, Middle East and Africa, all in the line of doing what I thought was right and in the best interests of the United States.
Recently, I was approached about a project that Tim Waltz wanted done and I, blank, blank, blank and Keith blank blank were also aware of the project.
Tim wanted me to kill Amy Klobuchar and Tina blank.
Tim wants to be a senator and doesn't trust blank to retire as planned and thinks she is going to stay on at the last minute with Amy blank gone.
Tim would get one of the Gen Senate seats and blank wants to be governor.
And Keith Ellison, spelling incorrect, would be rewarded with a lieutenant governor's position.
I told Tim I wanted nothing to do with it and if he didn't call off that plan, I would go public.
He said he would call it hurt my, he would call it hurt my family if I did SIC play ball.
Then he set up a meeting with me and Mel Blank and blank to talk about options when I, they had some people waiting to kill me.
Okay, when I did, I guess.
I was able to get away by God's mercy, so I went back a short time later and shot both at both blank and blank.
You should notice how I didn't fire one round at any police officers, and boy, did I have plenty of opportunity.
Asked for the report on how many weapons and ammunition I had with me.
Cops were pulling up right next to me in their vehicles, and I had an AK pistol aimed right at her head.
And I could have left a pile of cops dead, but I did shoot one bullet towards law enforcement.
You can ask him.
I think he says I did not.
Yeah, you can ask them because I support the police and didn't want them hurt.
If they're hurting my wife and kids next time, I won't give them a pass.
Okay.
Then ask Tim Waltz if he knows me and see what he says.
If he says he doesn't know me or never met me, look in the files and you will see that Tim Waltz personally appointed me as to be on his governor's workforce board as one of the business representatives.
He's probably trying to destroy that info, but it's public record.
Then ask Tim Waltz why they kept the shots silent from the media when they first happened.
Not a word in the press about it.
Why?
They needed to get their stories figured out first so everyone was on the same page about, in quotes, what happened.
Tim is probably crapping bricks right now because I'm still at large and he knows what I can do and that I know about where all the buried skeletons are.
So I'll be shot on site.
You can bet on that.
I will be shot on site.
First of all, is this a legitimate letter that was sent to Kash Patel?
Did this actually get sent?
Is this true?
kurt metzger
Looks like it.
joe rogan
No, but what do we know about this?
Yeah, this is from this is not misinformation, talk to the mic.
jamie vernon
No.
I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, no.
joe rogan
So this is the actual letter this crazy guy sent.
jamie vernon
He sent it to the FBI.
Whether or not it's real, you know, doesn't it?
joe rogan
Right, so here's the next question.
Did this guy actually work for the governor's office?
Did he actually work for Tim Waltz?
Well, this is all the suspect details, what he did.
jamie vernon
Yeah, he's claiming it's like secret.
That's kind of what he was saying.
joe rogan
Is he claiming it's secret?
kurt metzger
Well, he said something you could check.
But by the way, this is a drop in the bucket.
joe rogan
I understand, but I want to know if he's completely crazy, if he never really worked with him, if he just made all this shit up, right?
Because that is possible.
The guy's out of his fucking mind.
He shows up at someone's house with a mask on.
He's clearly out of his fucking mind.
Right?
kurt metzger
I mean, you'd be surprised what out of your mind people were.
joe rogan
That's true.
That's true.
But I mean, open mind, right?
The guy might have just been out of his fucking mind and never met Tim Waltz.
It could be total bullshit.
kurt metzger
I guess I doubt it very much.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Said the attack appears to be politically motivated assassination.
This is what Tim Walt said.
State officials and authorities early on Saturday encountered what appeared to be a police vehicle with emergency lights flashing in the driveway of Representative Melissa Hortman's house.
Officers at the home saw Boltler, dressed as a police officer, shoot an adult man through the open front door according to a criminal complaint obtained by the Minnesota Star Tribune.
Suspect exchanged gunfire with police and ran into the house.
So he did exchange gunfire according to this, ultimately disappearing from the area according to the complaint.
We don't know if that's true.
Hortman, the top Democrat in the Minnesota House and her husband were both killed at a nearby home.
Senator State Senator John Huffman and his wife were also shot, but are in stable condition after surgery.
So, and that lady who got killed was the one lady who voted against it.
And I sent you that, right, Jamie?
kurt metzger
A long time ago you sent me that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that one's kind of crazy.
kurt metzger
Yeah, no, Vance Boltzmann is real weird.
joe rogan
You see her talking about it.
kurt metzger
Yeah, she looks a little bit upset.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's like super shooken up that she made that vote.
And, you know, she looked legitimately nervous.
kurt metzger
Have you ever seen the guy from Utah?
His last name's, I want to say Ron Leave It.
His last name's Leave It, and he's the DA that called the press conference to announce that he's not a satanic cannibal to get ahead of.
And by the way, no one was accusing him of that.
So people took it real weird.
They were like, why would you fucking come out and say something like that?
joe rogan
Tell me this.
Why does some people not want to even consider the idea that someone was assassinated at the behest of powerful people?
Why?
kurt metzger
Because they're programmed not to.
That's why.
It's called programming and it works.
It's worked the whole time.
joe rogan
They're programmed to think there's just one sick individual who commits these crimes and has nothing to do with powerful people.
kurt metzger
How did Jerry Sandusky get away with it?
Look, think of the classic spotlight case.
Because Barry Crimmon is a good friend of mine.
I remember Barry fucking, I remember asking about shit.
He goes, like, I wouldn't throw my, you know, I do real work with people.
So if I just get behind a thing, I could cost my credibility because I have to really help actually.
We went on tour, and he, every town, dude, I met people that he helped navigate the fucked up legal system that sucks ass.
Okay.
It was like knowing the equalizer from that show, The Equalizer.
But there's also a side of Barry that was four years old forever.
Okay.
Because of what happened.
That's what happens in trauma.
A board of you freezes at that age.
And especially at four, that's like a split.
You split.
And that's a real thing.
They said it was debunked for quite some time.
But I met some people with Barry and he had helped these girls.
I can't remember where we were.
I want to say it was Pennsylvania, but I might be wrong.
But their dad was the mayor and they had repressed memories, they told me.
And he helped them with all their legal shit.
And I think they got some kind of justice.
But I thought that was debunked.
Epigenetics, it's called now, by the way.
It's a legitimate thing.
Generational trauma around 20, whenever BLM happened, if you look in 2011, that's made up.
There's no such thing.
But all of a sudden around BLM times, generational trauma is real.
It's called epigenetics.
The reason it's called Project Monarch is because the monarch, the butterflies can genetically transfer information, like learned information, you know?
And you'll see all that butterfly shit.
King Charles has that butterfly on his shoulder in his weird meat picture, right?
He's got a little monarch on his shoulder.
joe rogan
That's what that's about?
kurt metzger
Well, I think so.
I mean, you don't got to take my word for it.
Consult your local library.
Anyway, I just finally got this in the mail, but I got you one.
joe rogan
What is it?
kurt metzger
Mormon monarch, J.R. Sweet, and he explains a lot of shit about the Mormons and the program he was in.
And I fucking can't, yo, let me put it this way.
If you ever wonder what was inside of Mount Shasta, it ain't the Lemurians.
Put it that way.
joe rogan
I don't know what you just said.
kurt metzger
You know about Mount Shasta shit?
joe rogan
I have no idea what you just went on the most off-tangent, different.
If you just drag me into the woods with that conversation, I would never get home.
kurt metzger
Okay, monarch is the MKUltra continuation that we know happened.
It got disclosed.
joe rogan
What does that have to do with this?
kurt metzger
This guy was stuck in that.
joe rogan
The Lemurians?
kurt metzger
Well, Mount Shasta was, we have a base in Mount Shasta, as you know.
He has a whole chapter in there about going inside Mount Shasta.
joe rogan
I didn't know that we have a base in Mount Shasta.
kurt metzger
You haven't heard of Shasta, like, just based on pure UFO shit and Bigfoot shit?
joe rogan
It's probably, I maybe have forgot it.
kurt metzger
The famous story, there's a story where a kid, like, he got, his grandmother, they had bites on their neck when they woke up camping, and the kid, he walked off with someone.
joe rogan
Like a vampire bite?
kurt metzger
They thought it was like a spider or something, but this little kid, he thought it was his grandmother.
And he said, he goes, I like his real grandma better than the mean grandma that took him and they made him shit on a sticky paper in a cake.
Dude, it's crazy.
I thought you've already heard this story from a guest.
joe rogan
This is what he always does.
He tells you something completely insane.
He's like, oh, you don't know?
You don't know?
I learned off your show alive.
unidentified
He probably thought he heard it here.
I thought I did.
joe rogan
You might have.
You might have.
So he had a shit on something, a piece of paper.
kurt metzger
I think it was a good idea.
joe rogan
There was a sample?
kurt metzger
Yes.
joe rogan
A poop sample.
kurt metzger
It's a famous Shasta.
Shasta has so much.
There's a lot of cults around Shasta.
joe rogan
Really?
kurt metzger
Oh, yeah.
It goes back, the history of it goes back a long way.
joe rogan
What do you think that is?
You think they're doing like mental experiments in the town on the town floor?
kurt metzger
Well, something is there in the mountain already.
I don't know exactly what it is, but something bad is already there.
joe rogan
Like a UFO base.
Do you think any of the UAP shit is actual aliens?
kurt metzger
Dude, I don't fucking know because...
joe rogan
Or actual interdimensional creatures.
kurt metzger
So let's be the most conservative and say there was never a mass mind control thing and only a few rogue psychologists planted false memories in some people's heads, right?
That's what they say.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
Some bad psychologists planted fake memories of abuse in their heads.
Now, you've already told me if you're saying that as the normal explanation.
So it's possible to do that.
So you're telling me I could, if I was a shitty psychiatrist and I had new hypnosis, I could make you think you went on a fucking secret mission to Mars and you would feel like it's real.
And I could say you were satanically abused and you would have those memories as if it really happened.
So if that power is real, what are the odds that it was just a few psychologists or the United States fucking government?
Because I'm going to bet on the government.
So there's no telling, dude, because if I can probe you— Right, but those two ideas aren't mutually exclusive.
joe rogan
Like just because the government can put like satanic cult ideas into your head, it doesn't mean that you haven't had an experience with some sort of interdimensional or extraterrestrial energy.
kurt metzger
That's a good point.
joe rogan
And that erased your memory.
kurt metzger
You don't got to tell me and my dolphin wife.
joe rogan
The problem is that hypnotic regression is like you are open to suggestion and you have to kind of listen to what these people are saying.
The weird stuff is this.
The weird stuff is the people that didn't have hypnotic regression that have the same stories as the people with hypnotic regression.
Yo, Max from a long ass time ago.
kurt metzger
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
There's a lot of weird ones.
kurt metzger
What about, okay, I got a great book by Michael Hoffman called The Twilight Language.
The Twilight Language is in Buddhism and it kind of refers to a coded language, but it's NLP.
What is NLP?
I want to talk into your subconscious.
So when you see a pickup artist, so that dipshit Andrew Taint, he had a nerd pickup artist that was like his court wizard.
The guy called himself Iggy Semmelweis.
That's not his real name.
He's some dork that would wear like Chinese shirts and a fedora.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
kurt metzger
And so Andrew Tate was a reality guy and it wasn't taken off.
Then he gets this fucking hypnotist who used to be in the Rajneesh cult from Wild, Wild Country.
Have you ever seen that?
joe rogan
No, I love that show.
kurt metzger
Yeah, they left out the stuff done to kids, by the way, in that cult.
Strangely.
joe rogan
Oh, they left that out in the documentary.
kurt metzger
They imply people are just fucking in the streets in whatever this town was.
They had kids.
And if people are that loose with their sexuality in a hippie way there, what do you think happened with kids?
Real bad stuff.
And you can find those kids talking about it.
Why it was left out.
My guess is, is some liberal shit about, oh, this might support a QAnon, right?
Remember when you had fucking Rosatia fake?
joe rogan
The whole thing is so negative anyway.
kurt metzger
But we still have to keep you from believing that your leaders would do things like you've heard of Aztecs doing.
Your white leaders would not do Aztec shit.
That's just what cartels do and Africans.
joe rogan
Yeah, but in the documentary, they talk about how they poison the entire town.
kurt metzger
It's still not as bad as wholesale trafficking of children.
joe rogan
So you think that was a part of that whole cult?
Was wholesale trafficking?
kurt metzger
I believe 100% that was a part of it because if you've got a weird occult like that with little kids, guess who gets attracted to that?
joe rogan
I know, I understand, but why would they ever leave something like that out of a documentary?
kurt metzger
Because the same reason Flint Dibble can't handle the idea that there was a civilization before, it might lead to Nazi again.
Rosatia.
Like a little creep Flint Dibble.
Do you understand how these people are?
They think that you're not.
But you might get the wrong idea and distrust authority if you think.
So because they don't want to start a satanic panic, right?
They will purposely deny shit like good liberals do.
By the way, the conservative, if you're like, who cares about Epstein?
What are you talking about, dude?
Why would you say something like that?
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
And people that I like have said it to me.
joe rogan
They're not thinking.
No, they're just saying it.
kurt metzger
But I've heard the phrase.
joe rogan
They hear it so much.
It's like.
kurt metzger
Hypnosis.
joe rogan
Oh, you think that's what it is?
kurt metzger
Dude, that's what TV.
That's a scrying device, that fucking thing.
You got a North Korean pocket.
joe rogan
I've been doing good lately.
I'm not paying attention.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well, listen, if you I have to because I don't have a bunch of money, so I got to pay attention.
joe rogan
Listen, I get it.
I've been there.
It's just like, I think you find out enough from your friends.
kurt metzger
You remember the thing you sent me?
joe rogan
Which one?
kurt metzger
Okay, there's two things I don't want to forget.
One is that stupid feminist who said there's no genetic difference.
joe rogan
Oh, that one's amazing.
kurt metzger
Okay, so that couple, boy, that was a real fucking rabbit hole, those two.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, I know.
kurt metzger
Yeah, that trad couple, the Collinses.
So first of all, that feminist, if you watch the video, the feminist who's saying absolute stupid shit, it's a little disingenuous.
It reminds me of a Ben Shapiro arguing with a stupid college kid, but he won't argue with somebody who knows anything.
unidentified
Right.
kurt metzger
It's clearly they found this dumb bitch to put her out there.
Because you could clear up the misconception in five seconds.
Sweetie, no, no, I'm not saying somebody's better or worse.
I'm just saying genetically, it's different just because you have a different color.
joe rogan
I don't think they can find someone that's better.
That's where I think you're wrong.
kurt metzger
Find what?
joe rogan
Someone who's better at being a journalist.
That's where I think you're wrong.
I think so many of those people are like her, where they're just indoctrinated into this certain way of thinking and talking, and they just wouldn't even imagine saying there's genetic differences in the races.
It's so probable.
It's so Charles Murray.
It's so problematic.
You can get canceled for it.
So they'll just spout out stuff that they haven't researched at all.
kurt metzger
The bottom line is these two that are doing it that are trad.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, they're not trad.
kurt metzger
Yo, they're some bizarre atheist.
They're called techno-puritans, in their words.
Some book they think is divinely inspired is a goddamn eugenesis book from the 1800s.
joe rogan
What is that?
What's the book?
kurt metzger
Let's get it.
joe rogan
Jamie will find it.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jamie's on it.
You can put your phone.
kurt metzger
Nice.
So fucking, I look up the guy who tweeted it, Catholic Z1 or whatever.
For some reason, not to me, but my girlfriend, that guy's not Catholic.
I don't know what the fuck he is.
I think they ginn that up to promote this gold of a video of an idiot they're talking to.
joe rogan
Okay.
kurt metzger
The girl used to run something called, she used to manage dialogue, which is called the Bilderberg of Tech for Peter Thiel.
The dude is a Collins.
I don't know if you know the history of the Collins family, but he's got to be that one because that's a real important bloodline.
joe rogan
Well, let's find out if he is.
Otherwise, we're going to get in trouble with him.
kurt metzger
All right.
I mean, Techno-Puritan sounds a little New England to me.
joe rogan
It does, but I mean, you're accusing him of being a part of a notorious family.
That might not be true.
kurt metzger
I mean, okay.
Well, I think it's likely because why would you be hooked in with a secret invite-only Bilderberg of tech group unless you were.
The secret of all these secret societies.
joe rogan
It's because they're billionaires.
Are they?
kurt metzger
Yo.
joe rogan
Are they tech people?
kurt metzger
Dude, Duncan doesn't understand this guy.
joe rogan
Are they rich at all?
Do you know?
kurt metzger
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
The guy's a venture capitalist.
You know, the people that make everything good?
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
You know why the doors fall off the planes?
Because of those fucking people?
So he's that.
They're atheists, but oh, do you know what they believe?
In the future, an AI is God?
joe rogan
That's my religion.
kurt metzger
Yeah, it's called Luciferianism.
I don't know if you know that.
joe rogan
I don't really believe that, folks.
Get it together.
I think God was already here.
kurt metzger
Yeah, but I would say it's likely that it already was.
But these maniacs think they're going to make a God.
Okay.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
And I understand what they're saying as far as, you know, if let's say 10 years in the future, they create that AI that is like that.
Dude, that means it has always happened.
You can't think in past or future terms.
Okay.
So, you know, they go, are aliens us from the future?
Well, maybe they're us from the past.
That doesn't, you've got to think of it as points in space and not nothing with the timeline.
Because that's not really how time works, as you know, right?
Right.
So dinosaurs, they lived 150, whatever, million years ago.
Think of it as just like miles away instead of time.
Because that really, if you're a 5D, you know, they go three spatial, one time dimension, the fourth dimension.
If you're the fifth one, which would be the one above that, you don't think about it that way at all.
Okay.
So if at some point in the timeline, somebody invented that, it has always happened.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
You understand?
So then a lot of these tech freaks who are like, the things they're into are so crazy, but they believe shit like Kabbalah and memes and shit are being sent backwards in time.
joe rogan
Oh, the Kabbalah is a weird one.
A really smart friend of mine gave me that to read.
I was like, okay.
kurt metzger
Oh, well, it's a mind control method.
All these things, all the symbols, they're overlays for your fucking brain.
Okay?
So you ever watch, oh, Stranger Things you brought up.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
So that's based on the montage.
joe rogan
Did you know Will's gay?
kurt metzger
No.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
I didn't know any of them.
joe rogan
Will weeped?
kurt metzger
Okay.
I didn't believe any of them the whole time.
I thought, I assume anybody under 30 is gay.
joe rogan
Okay, what does this say?
Related through Malcolm to Dallas's prominent Collins.
kurt metzger
Oh, he's that kind of Collins.
joe rogan
The late Jim Collins was Malcolm.
You are right.
Malcolm's grandfather, Simone 29 and Malcolm 30, are intent on acquiring an established company using what's called the search fund model.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I was just trying to get that point about that.
joe rogan
Got it.
They are related.
They are related to the future.
kurt metzger
So Nick Land, if you ever heard of Nick Land, they always make, so he's supposedly the technical people.
joe rogan
Get to this, these people.
kurt metzger
So when they're having that conversation with them, they found an idiot so they could display that and then push a trad lifestyle, even though they're atheists, that a fake Catholic is putting on Twitter and it's going viral.
That's how you fake these things.
joe rogan
Right.
Or someone saw the clip and it appears that a young couple is defending a trad lifestyle and they just projected that.
That's all possible too, right?
Because that's how a lot of people saw the clip without context, without knowing the background of those people.
If you were someone who was introduced, you have.
But if you were someone like me, I'd never seen them before.
kurt metzger
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
And if you were to say, they're founders of Pronatalist.org, a nonprofit initiative aimed at promoting and supporting high birth rates.
Collins's fear that low fertility rates, especially among people they view as high achieving, could lead to a decline in innovation and societal progress, as well as the extinction of cultures, economic breakdown, and the collapse of civilization.
They are part of a network of self-styled elites that include billionaires Elon Musk, who billionaire Elon Musk, who publicly expresses concerns about demographic trends leading to population collapse.
They've been featured in discussions.
So what does it say about their wacky belief about technology?
Because that's on here, right?
kurt metzger
I think I found it on a...
joe rogan
Oh, go back to that image real quick, that article rather.
This is a weird one.
So the Collins are vocal supporters of using advanced reproductive technologies, including in vitro fertilization and genetic screening, to promote higher birth rates and advocate for selecting embryos based on perceived desirable traits, such as high IQ.
Collins' views have been criticized as promoting eugenics.
Hmm.
kurt metzger
Which, by the way, it is.
That's what CRISPR is for, is eugenics.
Eugenics came from America, not Nazi Germany.
We were the leaders in it.
joe rogan
America invented it.
kurt metzger
Back when we were doing the SIG Heil as a flag salute, that's when eugenics came out.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
kurt metzger
Yeah, a socialist came up with it, the Bellamy Salute, which was a SIG Heil.
We stopped doing it because we were doing it.
joe rogan
We stopped doing it because of the Nazis.
Yeah, but that's how they used to Pledge of Allegiance.
They used to do it arm out.
kurt metzger
Religious beliefs.
In 2024, the Collinses stated they were atheists, although at the time they were promulgating a theological worldview they called techno-puritanism, which they described as an intentionally constructed religion, technically atheist.
Oh, that sounds great.
I'd like some nerds to tell me what God is.
Thank you.
joe rogan
Technically atheist.
kurt metzger
However, by 2025, they stated that the belief that God is a real entity that actually exists at a different point in time is just so core to our worldview.
So all of them believe in AI God, which is technically more Araman than Lucifer, I guess.
joe rogan
What's Araman?
kurt metzger
That's the one from Zoroastrianism and the tech.
It's like heavy materialism.
Like there's nothing but the material, which you know these people that are like that.
And people have built a fucking, it's okay.
I'm not saying that as a slur for lame.
I want to make that clear, but it is also lame.
It's both gay and lame.
And so it's all about breeding and all these weird.
From what I can tell, trying to piece together what the big players are.
Because, you know, the deep state and shadow government is not just one team.
These are scumbag eugenicists.
So everybody's competing and trying to backbite each other, just like in real life, right?
And so there appears to be like a left-hand, just left-hand path and right-hand path.
But that's all fucking Lucifer fucking Kabbalah bullshit.
All of it is the same bullshit.
joe rogan
That's Lucifer-Kabbalah bullshit?
That they think that low birth rates are contributing to collapse of civilization?
kurt metzger
Well, the low birth rate thing is a thing, you know, China any minute now is going to collapse because they don't have immigrants, right?
China, oh, and remember they're elderly.
They're going to have all these elderly.
And what are they going to do with them?
Because there's not enough young people to take care of them.
Oh, COVID came along.
I bet every country was involved in their own soft kill to ease their population.
That's what I think happened.
Because I know the one that hit us wasn't from Wuhan.
It was from Raleigh.
joe rogan
Hold on.
So do you think that contributed to the decision to bring COVID-positive people back into nursing homes?
kurt metzger
Oh, in New York?
Cuomo did?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
Well, I don't even, that guy's such a psychopath.
Who the fuck knows?
I mean, he probably, it's as easy a guess as he doesn't care or he's in a generational fucking cult.
Either one could be.
It was foul what they did, dude.
And it's just what always happens.
And everybody moves along and forgets it.
What are you still talking about that?
Move on.
joe rogan
Yeah, they brought COVID-positive people back into nursing homes.
kurt metzger
You remember in MIB, the blinky light thing that makes you forget that you saw aliens?
Okay, I have a very bad feeling, Joe, that that is not some kind of exotic technology.
I think it may literally just be a blinky light.
unidentified
Really?
kurt metzger
I just got to blink some fucking lights in your eyes and say some bullshit, and that's all it takes to have a matrix.
Don't need a fancy computer.
I could just put you in a house of cards of lies.
And I did it with my, I didn't need no tech to do it.
That's the old ways, right?
And now the tech fucks, the next generation of, by the way, Collins, what the family, if you ever saw Johnny Depp made a remake of it with the visa vampire, Barnabas Collins.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah.
kurt metzger
Dark Shadows.
joe rogan
Dark Shadows, yeah.
kurt metzger
The 70s one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
That's about a real family.
Their supposed claim to fame was being the first warlocks or some shit in America with the Puritans.
joe rogan
Those were supposedly Americans?
I thought Barnabas Collins.
kurt metzger
I thought that was a New England.
Yeah, but he was in New England.
They're in an old bloodline family, and they came over and they were.
Yo, all these families.
joe rogan
Dark Shadows.
Good, I forgot about that show.
So that show was supposed to be taking place in New England.
That's where it's supposed to be taking place?
What?
That's the same family?
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is it other Collins?
kurt metzger
Yeah, it's about them.
unidentified
What?
kurt metzger
Yo, these are important families.
By the way.
joe rogan
Holy shit, dude.
Are you sure about that?
Because that sounds crazy.
kurt metzger
I mean, hey, double-check me with Jesus AI, but I think I'm right.
joe rogan
You got to double that.
kurt metzger
Royalty is bloodline royalty.
joe rogan
Dark Shadows was based on that Collins family.
That is crazy.
kurt metzger
I'm fairly sure it was based on the real Collins family because there's very specific.
joe rogan
But it was Barnabas Collins.
kurt metzger
Reynolds Collins, Kennedy, something.
By the way, the bootlegger thing, I don't think that's true.
I don't think that was their dad at all.
I think people are confusing.
Really?
I just saw a guy who wrote a whole book about it.
It's another Joe Kennedy.
joe rogan
Yeah, I had read that too.
I had read that it was a fact and that they had tried to hide it.
kurt metzger
I think it's not true.
joe rogan
And then I'd read that it wasn't true.
kurt metzger
But the bottom line is, if you're so all these.
joe rogan
What certainly was true is their connection with the mob.
kurt metzger
Oh, yeah.
Well, yeah, of course.
joe rogan
No, Barnabas Collins is not based on a real person.
It's a fictional vampire character created for the Gothic soap opera Dark Shadows, which aired from 1966 to 1971, introduced to boost declining ratings.
The character portrayed by Jonathan Frid quickly became the show's star after an unplanned extension from a 13-week arc.
Oh, so he wasn't the star initially.
The character's backstory draws from a classic vampire lore.
Direct nods to Bram Stoker's Dracula as the primary influence.
Bro, I watched a crazy thing.
kurt metzger
Look at the persistent rumors.
You see what said?
joe rogan
I watched a crazy documentary the other night on YouTube about the Vlad Tepes, the original Vlad, the Impaler, about how he became who he became.
Holy shit, man.
They were like Romania and the Ottomans, and when the king had to give up his two sons.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so his two sons had to go live with the Ottomans for like seven years.
kurt metzger
Pretty bad what they did to him.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
And so he came back a complete fucking psychopath.
kurt metzger
It's very similar to how you would trauma train a kid in an MK program.
This is ancient shit.
joe rogan
Well, certainly if you want to get that result, that's the way to do it.
Like completely traumatize the kid for seven years.
kurt metzger
You probably do.
joe rogan
Separate him from his family and turn him into a fucking monster.
What they did was like set rows of bodies for like kilometers on stakes at like a perfect geometric distance from each other.
They created stars, like shapes that you could see from above.
When you'd look down, you'd see a star of dead people.
kurt metzger
Yeah, he's the son of the dragon.
When you hear dragon show, when you hear dragon imagery, the new one, did you watch the new one, Nosferatu?
Yes, I did.
joe rogan
That's fucking great.
kurt metzger
Yes.
joe rogan
I loved it.
kurt metzger
And he, I liked it.
I thought it was weird, the amount of weird necrophilia shit, but that's because that dude, Eggers, was looking into real occult shit.
So that was like a fucking Solomancy school.
joe rogan
I think it's the best vampire movie ever.
That's what I think.
kurt metzger
It was just very odd to throw in that the guy, his friend at the end, like necrophile his wife.
And that's what they're implying 100%.
And the reason Nosferatu is bothering her is because she used to ask, she had some psychic shit and used to fuck around with her as a teen.
And so right there in the story, same thing in Stranger Things.
Remember 11?
So Montauk was a program that they had.
They're cutting out the real fucked up parts that are very similar to Dracula's childhood, in particular the fucking sexual trauma that they have to inflict on a child.
That's always left out of the super soldier thing.
joe rogan
And the idea is that sexual trauma allows them to have this ability to shut off their past.
kurt metzger
Well, Joseph Mengele, who America saved, saved his life to get his great research.
Remember, he's obsessed with twins.
unidentified
Yeah.
kurt metzger
And John Lilly was into that too because psychic, their connections and all.
So fucking, they found the amount to torture someone until they go in the fetal position.
That means they're broken.
If you do it young enough to a kid, and there's fucking gross kind of cults out there that have done that.
You've heard of certain cults that do it.
Every cult you hear about, like Nexium, right?
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
There's always a circle within a circle, right?
And a lot of people say every cult becomes a sex cult.
But that's not necessarily true.
Aaron, my friend from, he has a great channel, Growing Up Scientology.
And he pointed out, he goes, you know, Scientology did not become a sex cult, even though that shit clearly happened in it.
The cult wasn't like Nexium, where it's like, you've got to give me a blowjob.
Okay.
But why?
And I was like, oh, I couldn't figure it out.
And James McCann explained it to me.
James McCann goes, oh, that's how you become a real religion.
If you can keep your cult from becoming a sex cult long enough, you can become a religion.
That's why it didn't become a sex cult.
There'll be time for vicious sexual assault once you get that tax exemption.
But you just got to hold it together.
joe rogan
McCann's a fucking smart guy, man.
kurt metzger
Yeah, I love talking to him, dude.
joe rogan
I really love talking to him, too.
I can't believe he's going to be a good person.
kurt metzger
He knows a lot of stuff.
joe rogan
He's going back to Australia in a couple of days.
kurt metzger
I know.
Well, he's throwing it all away.
joe rogan
We'll get him back.
kurt metzger
I mean, Australia.
joe rogan
He thinks he'll be back within a year.
kurt metzger
Dude, what a cage Australia is.
But they gave up.
After the first government-run mass shooting, they gave up their guns.
What a bunch of punks.
joe rogan
They fucked up.
They thought they were doing the right thing.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
They fucked up, and now their government is just locking them up for anything they want.
kurt metzger
Well, they're still subject to the crown.
And so a lot of these creepy things, by the way, when you see that dragon shit, you know, like Arthur Pendragon.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
kurt metzger
The legend of Arthur in England, right?
joe rogan
Okay, right.
kurt metzger
His last name's Dragon.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
kurt metzger
Yeah, Arthur Pendragon.
joe rogan
Oh, okay, right.
kurt metzger
If you go to the city of London, which is that weird, like Vatican-like, separate part of London that the king has to ask permission, and they have a giant called Gogmagog that's there.
You know how creepy the city of London is?
It's run by a bunch of guilds.
Real dark shit.
Whenever you see that dragon logo, dude, these are people that think they have fucking like dragon blood, dude.
I'm not, I don't think that.
I think they're just inbred, okay?
I want to make it clear.
That's not what I think, but these people say that.
So when you hear like...
joe rogan
Like Charlie Sheen?
Tiger Blood?
kurt metzger
Well, Charlie Sheen used to say he was a Vatican assassin all the time, right?
unidentified
Remember that?
joe rogan
That's the crack talking.
unidentified
Sure.
kurt metzger
It sure is.
But I never heard that phrase.
I was like, what the fuck is that?
What is a Vatican assassin?
I mean, Dan Brown was around, but he wasn't even, he had open his eyes.
Well, if you watch the cleansed documentary, the limited hangout Charlie Sheen thing, where clearly they're not telling you the half of it, obviously, okay?
And he goes, well, I just did so much Coke and I fucked so much pussy.
I had to try dudes, you know, like you flip the menu.
I don't think that's true.
And the reason I don't think it's true is because in the beginning, they say his parents walked around naked in front of him till he was five.
He's not the oldest kid either.
So there's some kind of inappropriateness early.
And I know they're Catholic and probably some Jesuit shit in there because people that stay movie stars that long, I would bet they have some connection, just like modern art was from the CIA.
I'll bet your George Clooney's and Tom Hanks have a deep fucking connection.
And that's why George Clooney is a billionaire from Tequila.
And that's why Diddy got mad.
Why is George Clooney a billionaire?
I'm a fucking asset.
Why don't I get a blue blue?
joe rogan
That's what he said.
I'm an asset.
kurt metzger
I'm just, I'm wildly speculating that he said, but I think I'm right.
So he went against Diageo, which is a British company.
He's not Italian, some made-up name.
He bit the hand that fed him because he didn't own fucking Siroc.
joe rogan
Sirock.
unidentified
Right.
kurt metzger
I think the Illuminati is like Sirock.
I think it was a bigger thing at one time, but now it's mostly for black people.
joe rogan
All right, Kirbmansky.
We're wrapping it up with that.
Thanks, brother.
That was very fun.
kurt metzger
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
You're out tonight?
kurt metzger
Yeah, you know it.
joe rogan
What's rock and roll?
kurt metzger
All right.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
That was a lot of fun.
Thank you.
unidentified
As always.
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