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Dec. 25, 2025 - The Joe Rogan Experience
02:56:37
Joe Rogan Experience #2431 - Shane Gillis

Joe Rogan and Shane Gillis dissect Rogan’s sleep apnea struggles—including his $40K nose surgery—and the "sexist" risks of combat sports, like cartilage damage in women fighters. They mock Anthony Joshua’s post-loss speech and speculate on his $100M betting fight with Jake Paul, while critiquing Trump’s third-person tweets celebrating violence, like Charlie Kirk’s shooting or Rob Reiner’s son’s murder case. Rogan questions ICE’s use of disabled security footage in the Brown University shooting, linking it to Oz Turk’s deportation for Gaza-related activism, and debates Georgia’s 315,000 early votes lacking signatures. The episode blends absurdity—dolphin infanticide, Civil War-era units like the Zuaves—and conspiracy musings, from UFOs to Benghazi, ending with frustration over political divisiveness and a lighthearted jab at Trump-Clinton hot tub rumors. [Automatically generated summary]

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Participants
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jamie vernon
06:37
joe rogan
01:42:42
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shane gillis
50:23
Appearances
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anthony joshua
00:46

Speaker Time Text
Sleep Apnea and Mouthpieces 00:08:22
unidentified
Joe Rogan podcast, check it out!
the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day he's having a good old time i'm sure He loves doing that.
joe rogan
Just fucking.
shane gillis
I wish it didn't piss me off.
joe rogan
He pisses you off that he just checks out.
What pisses you off?
I love it.
I love that he does it.
shane gillis
No, it's just art.
It's fun to.
joe rogan
But it's like the more successful he gets, the more dangerous it is.
People know who you are, dude.
You've been seen by millions of people.
You can't pretend you're this like anonymous backpacker anymore.
You're fucking weirdo.
shane gillis
He comes back.
My favorite was a couple years ago.
Like when he came back from Peru, we were doing Legion of Skanks and he was like in the crowd and thought it was going to be like a big surprise that he's back.
He like came back and we were like, oh, what's up?
Ari's here.
unidentified
We're talking about the best.
shane gillis
You haven't seen me in so long.
I don't see any of my friends.
joe rogan
Yeah, you were saying every six months.
shane gillis
I forgot you left.
joe rogan
Right.
I only see Norman every six months.
Maybe, maybe a little more when we get popping with Protect Our Partners.
shane gillis
It's not the same without them.
joe rogan
I know it's not.
unidentified
I'm still getting drunk, but it's a little sad, though.
shane gillis
It's a little more pathetic.
I'm drinking by myself.
joe rogan
It's a little more sad.
I've had a few drinks.
I had a whiskey before a show recently.
I had a couple glasses of wine with dinner the other day.
But it's the most I've had is two.
But the days of like drinking at nights.
shane gillis
I thought I had you last time with some other shit.
joe rogan
The problem is health.
I'm too interested in health.
I know.
That's the problem.
It's like the price you pay is legitimate.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I'm too interested in health.
I do too much to stay healthy.
shane gillis
You work too hard.
joe rogan
I'm getting old, dude.
I'm 58.
The reality is, like, when was the last time you saw a really fit 78-year-old guy?
78 years for me is not that far.
shane gillis
Trump's jacked.
joe rogan
Bro, that's 2005.
Okay?
2005 when I was still doing Fear Factor.
That's 20 years ago.
That's nothing.
That's like that.
Time just flies by.
All of a sudden, you're saying.
unidentified
You're my age.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Exactly.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
How old are you now?
shane gillis
I just turned 38.
joe rogan
Yeah, see?
So think of that.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's 20 years difference.
You to me is 20 years.
But me to like a dead guy is 20 years.
unidentified
78-year-old guy is a dead guy.
joe rogan
So I've been consciously thinking about that.
Like, don't let it get away from you.
That's the thing.
Don't let it get away from you.
Like, look at Jellyroll.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fucking insane.
Incredible.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
That dude just added decades onto his life.
shane gillis
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
He was on his way out.
shane gillis
He was close.
joe rogan
He was on his way out.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
40, 500.
shane gillis
Sam Talon?
joe rogan
40 pounds?
Yes.
shane gillis
Sam Talon dropped it too.
joe rogan
Did he?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
How much did he drop?
shane gillis
Fucking ton.
joe rogan
Oh, no shit.
unidentified
I haven't seen him.
shane gillis
Well, he did.
I don't want to speak for him.
I think he took one of the things.
joe rogan
He's fine, man.
And I was like, whatever he needs to do.
shane gillis
What are you doing?
And he was like, I was going to die.
I was like, all right, fair.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You get too big, and then he probably has sleep apnea, so he ain't getting any sleep.
So at night he's choking, you know, and you're lying in bed in these weird hotel rooms.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Sam Harris, Sam Tom.
shane gillis
I'm going out from sleep apnea for sure, bro.
joe rogan
Bro, I have to wear a mouthpiece every night.
I wear a mouthpiece every night.
I found a great pillow, too.
shane gillis
Do you think it hurts to die from sleep apnea?
joe rogan
No, you just choke.
You stop breathing, and that's it.
It's rap.
unidentified
Probably don't hurt at all.
joe rogan
You probably just go in your sleep.
shane gillis
Yeah, so what the fuck?
joe rogan
It's not one of the worst ways.
shane gillis
What are we talking about here?
joe rogan
Listen, let it rap.
Problem is, you're going way too young.
You're going because someone's killing you, and that someone's you.
Yeah, but see, a lot of football players get it.
shane gillis
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
joe rogan
They have giant necks.
So the giant neck, when you're adding all this stuff here, it's kind of closing in.
And then you've got this big fucking head and this big ass tongue and it just falls over that hole and you just slip into darkness.
shane gillis
Now they're talking my language.
joe rogan
Well, listen, for a lot of those guys, it's all preventable.
You know, you could sleep with a seat pap machine, which sucks.
shane gillis
Dude, my dad, my dad has a sleep machine, and he doesn't fucking clean it.
unidentified
Oh, he sucks.
shane gillis
He gets like eye infectious.
Oh, God.
You just see him.
He shows up with double pink guy.
unidentified
You're like, yo, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Bro, I tried that thing once, one time.
shane gillis
How do you sleep with that?
joe rogan
Can't.
Can't do it.
I can't sleep with a lot of noise.
I want to be able to wake up quick.
I wake up quick.
shane gillis
That's funny.
joe rogan
I'm one of those wake-up guys.
Like, if my wife grabs me, if she has to wake me up, she has to be kind of, you know, ready that I don't grab her.
Yeah.
I don't know why.
I've always woken up like that.
So I don't want any noise.
shane gillis
I listen to noise when I sleep.
And then I have that thought, though.
It's like if somebody breaks in.
joe rogan
I want to hear everything.
shane gillis
Sure.
joe rogan
Well, this is like, I used to always have a lot of dangerous dogs.
I used to have like multiple pit bulls.
I used to have.
shane gillis
Me and him both with sleep apnea.
joe rogan
But I always wanted things to be awake that would bark if something was at the door.
Like living by yourself in Hollywood.
I never lived in Hollywood, but I lived in North Hollywood.
Then I lived in Encino and then I moved further out.
I just kept moving further and further out.
I even thought about Santa Barbara.
I'm like, why don't I get a big piece of property on Santa Barbara?
Get the fuck away from everybody.
But, like, I don't want a machine going.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't.
You're not hearing shit.
I would be paranoid.
I'd be feeling weird.
shane gillis
I think when you hit like machine time, it's like, dude, I hope someone breaks in here.
Who gives a fuck, dude?
I've gotten sleep.
I get sleep apnea when I'm hungover.
That's when I get it.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Do you see?
shane gillis
I've got it on my planes.
I'm waking myself up.
unidentified
Of course.
shane gillis
So embarrassing.
joe rogan
I had to wake this dude up.
And not wake this dude up, but tell him once.
We were on a long flight, like going to Europe or something.
And this poor dude was choking so bad.
And he sat up and I said, hey, man, you have sleep apnea.
I go, have you ever been tested for sleep apnea?
And he was a younger guy.
He was like in his 30s, but real overweight.
And I go, you got to go get tested.
I go, you legitimately have sleep apnea.
I go, I know because I have it.
And I told him, I'm like, you don't breathe for like nine seconds at a time.
I watched him.
It was crazy.
shane gillis
I got to be honest, that's, I mean, don't get me wrong.
You did the right thing, but that would, that would bum me up.
joe rogan
Well, he was already friendly with me.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
We were already friendly.
Because he was like, oh, you love your sleep.
shane gillis
Waking up to like an inch shape.
Being like, you're fat.
unidentified
I wasn't.
joe rogan
I told him I have it too.
I have it too.
I was informing him.
I'm telling you, I go, it changed my life.
And I just told him, I go, I got a mouthpiece that presses down on your tongue.
It keeps my tongue from sliding back.
It's a game changer.
I go, dude, you'll feel so much better.
Because I watched you choke.
Yeah.
shane gillis
The mouthpiece is tough, though.
It's hard.
If you're laying with your lady.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a problem.
shane gillis
You put the mouthpiece in.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
There you go.
Well, hold on a second.
All of a sudden, I'm hard.
You should probably have sex right now.
joe rogan
Take that mouthpiece out.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You got to take it out.
shane gillis
You go, hey, baby, are you awake?
joe rogan
It's just another thing is mouth tape.
You ever try that?
Are you breathing down your nose?
shane gillis
I got a deviated septum.
It wouldn't.
joe rogan
You should get that fixed, dog.
shane gillis
I'm never going to fix anything.
joe rogan
Oh, you should get that fixed.
I got mine fixed.
It was amazing.
I didn't get it fixed till I was 40.
Yeah.
I had it my whole ups.
shane gillis
You just got a nose surgery?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was awesome.
The result is awesome.
I mean, I gained like instantly gained like 10% cardio.
shane gillis
Oh, damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, because you breathe out of your nose now.
I couldn't breathe out of my nose forever.
I broke my nose when I was five.
Nose Surgery and Cardio Gains 00:06:04
joe rogan
I fell down a flight of stairs.
And then it was always crooked.
Like the bone got fucked.
I got fucked.
I probably should have went to a doctor, but in the 70s, they just fucking dusted you off.
So, and then I broke my nose who knows how many times after that.
shane gillis
Of course.
joe rogan
Bunch of times.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The most recent one in my 40s, I got knee in the face in jiu-jitsu, or in my late 30s, rather, I got knee in the face in jiu-jitsu.
And it was fucking pouring blood.
unidentified
It doesn't look bad, though.
joe rogan
No, it's not that bad.
It's not flattened too much because I really stopped striking mostly when I was like 22, 23.
I did a little of it when I came to LA again.
I just did a little sparring, but not too much.
But it's the guys that just keep getting hit in the nose over and over again.
This piece of cartilage eventually collapses.
And then you get this like flat thing there.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which doesn't bother me too much on dudes, but it bums me out when I see it on women fighters.
It really does.
It bums me out.
I know it's so sexist.
It does.
shane gillis
Bums me out.
Until you want to look pretty.
unidentified
I know.
shane gillis
You go, why don't you even look pretty?
joe rogan
There's certain fights where women get really badly cut, and I have a really hard time with it.
I know.
I mean, I don't have a hard time with dudes.
shane gillis
Well, it's hard to watch women get beat up.
joe rogan
It is.
shane gillis
Like the fucking that Iraq video we were watching.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
shane gillis
It's hard to watch.
unidentified
What he's doing.
joe rogan
Someone decided it would be a good idea to have a man box a woman.
It was maybe some mouthy chick because she was really aggressive.
Like, remember?
Like, even after he knocked her down, she jumped up and tried to swing on him even when the referee was holding her back.
She was very aggressive.
But this dude beat the fucking dog shit out of her.
shane gillis
She did survive the round.
joe rogan
I guess.
Didn't she get knocked down at the end and they stopped it?
shane gillis
I think that I could be wrong.
It looked like the second.
He was in his corner.
joe rogan
Well, he was terrible.
He wasn't good.
He wasn't good.
It was ridiculous.
Also, he was.
Jimmy, don't make me watch this.
This guy's just, I mean, it looks like he's got some rudimentary technique.
He's just kind of swinging punches, but the power difference is just crazy.
And anybody who thinks it's not is just fucking delusional.
The difference between a man and a woman is so big.
Even like a strong woman, like Amanda Nunez, she'd probably knock out most dudes.
But she's not sparring a guy her weight that's going to go full blast.
That's fucked.
Even like a big power puncher for a woman, it's just compared.
Oh, there.
That's the end.
That's horrible.
unidentified
It's crazy.
shane gillis
But I think they were just in like Fallujah, so fuck it.
joe rogan
My friend Tommy used to have a girlfriend that could definitely knock you out.
She used to knock me out.
Dude, bro, I'm telling you, this girl could knock a man out.
Tommy was always telling me how hard she hits those punching back things.
And he's like, let her hit your hand.
So I go, okay.
So I put my hand up.
Bro, she blasted my hand and I went, whoa.
I was like, that is real.
That's a real problem.
I go, dude, she'll knock you out.
Did you not get into argument with your girlfriend?
She's a big lady.
Not like a strong, stout lady.
I was shocked.
There's girls out there that could flatline you.
But not that one.
shane gillis
Bro, how much would that suck?
I mean, talking to your girl, you're like, this is my house.
I'm a girl.
unidentified
And she just fucking chlores, shields you.
joe rogan
She just fucking drops bombs on you, tunes you up with a nice couple hammer fists on the ground.
Oh, fuck that.
shane gillis
Think of talking to a girl and she gets in like a good stance.
Oh, my goodness.
A boxing stance.
joe rogan
Have you seen that really pretty girl that fights in the PFL?
What's her name?
Dakota Decheva.
I don't know how to say her last name.
I don't know.
She's from England.
I don't know what her ethnicity is, but she is like most of her fights win by knockout.
She's this Muay Thai specialist, but she's pretty.
She's real pretty and like slim and slender.
And she's awesome.
unidentified
Fucks these girls up.
shane gillis
That's what it is.
joe rogan
Fucks these girls up.
Like combination.
That's her.
Combination.
Say that name.
De Cheva.
De Cheva.
I don't know.
I'm probably butchering it.
A lot of those names, you can't really pronounce them the way you read them.
Like that trips me up so hard at UFC Weigh-Ins.
Like I have to write everything out phonetically.
Just cut to like when she's tilted.
Yeah, she's tuning up this girl.
And she tunes up all these girls.
She's nasty, man.
Look at that knee to the body.
unidentified
And she's pretty.
joe rogan
She's pretty.
She's got a nice body.
If you saw her at a club, you would say, wow, she looks really fit.
Like, maybe she's a crossfight or something.
Yeah.
shane gillis
You try to hug her, you get put in the clinch.
Fucking elbow.
unidentified
Just fucks you up.
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that video is wrong.
The video in Iraq is just wrong.
Don't do that.
Don't do that to that poor lady.
That lady got a lifetime worth of breakfast.
shane gillis
She must have been talking so much shit that the whole everybody agreed to it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Everyone agreed.
joe rogan
There's ladies like that out there, just like there's guys like that out there.
shane gillis
For sure.
joe rogan
I've seen a lot of videos of guys just walking into a boxing gym for fucking fucking street fighter.
shane gillis
They have no skills.
joe rogan
And some guy just fucking talks shit to him while he's beating the brains.
shane gillis
You can always tell, though, just the way they move their feet.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
shane gillis
Like, kind of like on the balls of their feet, like jumping around a little.
Every punch they throw, they leave their feet.
joe rogan
During the old days of martial arts, they used to, people would just show up at your gym and say they want to spar the best people there.
It would happen all the time.
shane gillis
What years are these?
joe rogan
The 80s.
shane gillis
Yeah, that's because they were putting out those fucking sick-ass karate movies.
Every single dude was like, hold on a second.
Is that me?
Am I John Claude Van?
joe rogan
I am that guy.
But there's a lot of probably schizophrenics and delusional people, of course.
They'd show up at a karate school and just get fucked up.
shane gillis
It's horrible.
Having a manic episode.
I'm about to throw a roundhouse kick.
joe rogan
Horrible.
unidentified
Horrible.
shane gillis
Oh, man.
Karate Movies and Delusions 00:03:12
shane gillis
Getting tuned up while you're having a mental phrase.
joe rogan
You're in the middle of a full schizophrenic break.
You're seeing elves and shit.
shane gillis
There's that fucking elf right there.
He's in the gym.
joe rogan
There's a dragon hiding behind the corner.
You just get punched in the face.
shane gillis
It's like naming.
unidentified
Hold on.
Dragons talking to me.
shane gillis
Just got a trainer.
joe rogan
It's a dragon.
You imagine being schizophrenic?
Imagine just seeing a world that's totally different than the world everybody sees because your whatever is all fucked up.
And so you're just seeing things that aren't there.
shane gillis
No.
joe rogan
Making connections that aren't real.
shane gillis
And you don't know.
joe rogan
Kurt Metzger.
shane gillis
Metzger's fired up.
unidentified
Metzger's fired up.
shane gillis
He'll get you.
joe rogan
Metzger's got a touch.
shane gillis
He got me at the holidays.
joe rogan
He's got a touch of the skits.
shane gillis
He's fired up, dude.
joe rogan
Bro, he is an encyclopedia of conspiracies.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
You just go back to, remember that thing in the 70s?
unidentified
Oh!
Oh, yeah.
shane gillis
Yeah.
He'll get it immediately.
And he'll tell you more than you know.
He'll tell you too much.
He also talks about conspiracies with complete.
Oh, you didn't know this?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the best one.
shane gillis
There's never like there's a theory.
unidentified
Oh, you didn't know?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he gets over you because he's such a goon.
He like looms over you.
He's this big fucking dude.
His giant eyebrows.
shane gillis
He's so fucking funny.
He's so funny.
He's unbelievably funny.
joe rogan
He's such a character.
Like, you couldn't make a dude like that in a movie.
People are like, that's too over the top.
shane gillis
No, he's his comedy is like my favorite.
joe rogan
He's great.
He's a really great, like, he does the Jimmy Dore show, and he just jumps in with shit.
It's always like, I'm always like watching this very serious thing.
shane gillis
I'm like, what the fuck is Metzger?
unidentified
What the fuck, Metzger?
shane gillis
Metzger.
He's come over to my house a couple times.
He likes white claws.
He drinks white claws and brings his own.
And then he gets going.
joe rogan
Yeah, he always shows up in the green room with two white claws in between his fingers.
shane gillis
Always two white claws.
He's a two white claw man.
It's a good move.
unidentified
He's such a character.
joe rogan
He's always been that guy, too.
He's so fun.
shane gillis
I had the worst, one of the most embarrassing interactions with him.
He just put out White Precious, which was one of my favorite specials ever.
And then I saw him in LA because I was opening for like Big J at the store, and Metzger was there.
And I was like, okay, I'm going to try to talk to Kurt.
This is a big moment for me.
And I was like, so do you think, when do you think your next special is?
He was like, I don't fucking know, dude.
He just walked away and I was like, fuck, I knew it.
There's so many of those.
So many I wish I could take back.
joe rogan
Yeah, the meeting people for the first time and being like super awkward.
shane gillis
Oh, Attel got me with a terrible one.
I've talked about it before, but I walked outside of the cellar.
I just had a good set.
Like I was feeling good.
And he was smoking a cigarette.
And I was like, can I get one of those cigarettes?
He was like, no.
Walked right back inside.
Fuck.
joe rogan
He thought you were going to buy.
Meanwhile, he only had four left.
shane gillis
He likes fucking with people.
joe rogan
How is he still alive?
Like, he does nothing to take care of himself.
How many cigarettes does Dave smoke?
shane gillis
He smokes a lot of cigarettes.
joe rogan
He's alive through pure laughter.
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shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
The amount of laughter he generates keeps his tissue excited.
shane gillis
I was so lucky to just be like, because they would always put me with him at the end of the night.
So I got to watch him for a few years, and it was like my favorite thing.
But if I, he just would make fun of me.
He'd see me in the room.
He'd be like, oh, Shane must have had a good set.
He's hanging out.
Shane, where were you born?
On the corner of AR and 15.
He's so good.
Yeah, but yeah, he fucking really makes fun of you.
You stand in the doorway and he's like, look at you, you fat beast.
joe rogan
I love what he does.
He'll do a show and then he'll bring his opening acts on the stage at the end of the show and just riff and just shit on them.
shane gillis
It's impossible to keep up.
joe rogan
Bro, Ian just gets good at it.
He is, but he gets just steamrolled.
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
shane gillis
He knows Dave enough to know what he's looking for with the answer.
I don't.
So I'd be in the room and he'd be like, Shane, you look like a sex toy guy.
What type of sex toys do you like?
I'd be like, vibrators.
He'd be like, oh, good answer.
unidentified
Fuck, I don't know.
joe rogan
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Yeah.
shane gillis
I sent, I opened for Burt Kreischer in Helium.
And then at Helium Filling, it was the first time I ever middled.
And I was like, that was a good show.
I should, and he, you know, he was drunk after the show and he was like, you should open for me.
Jon Stewart and Opening Acts 00:03:17
shane gillis
And I was like, fuck you.
I'm going to email this guy.
I emailed him like five times.
The first email was like, I think you and me meshed together.
We should, it was brutal.
So then I'm talking, me and Stanhope were talking to him about it.
This fucker still has the same email account.
So he brought it up.
He read the email in front of me 10 years later.
joe rogan
How does he still have the same email account for 10 years?
shane gillis
God, that would be.
You got any of those?
joe rogan
What?
shane gillis
Like when you were a young comic, just no emails back then.
No, no, no.
But I mean, just like saying something that you're big comic.
joe rogan
One time at MTV, Jon Stewart was having a meeting with this executive.
And I just met Jon Stewart the first time.
And so I went in to say hi.
I went in to say hi to the lady and Jon Stewart was there.
And I remember saying hi to him, like, oh, hi.
And then I remember I went, I go, wow, you got a great view.
I looked out the window and I knocked something over, like a fucking statue or some shit.
And I grab it and pick it up.
It didn't break.
And I put it back.
I'm like, all right, I'll just get out of here.
I just felt like such a fucking clumsy dork.
Because I had to look out the, I had to say something nice.
Like, wow, you got a great view.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Knock this fucking thing over and just like, oh, no.
shane gillis
Yeah, knocking something over.
joe rogan
Like, why did I go back there to look?
If I just said hi in the main room area, everything would be like, man, that guy was cool.
That guy was cool.
No, he had to go to the window.
Bro, that haunted me for years.
I had to think about the knocking that stupid.
I don't even remember what it was I knocked over, but I remember going, oh, no.
shane gillis
Yeah, it's terrible.
I had one.
I went to see Soders.
He filmed one of his Comedy Central specials in Philly.
And I had just done a showcase with him in New York.
Like, I was like really excited that I did a show at the sand because it was like the first time I ever did it.
And he was on the lineup.
So we're standing in line.
And I was like, you think I should just tell these people that I just did a show with this guy?
And my friends were like, what the fuck are you talking about?
And I was like, dude, I'll kill myself.
Like, right away.
I was like, oh, I'm so sorry.
You think I should tell like the people with the security that I just did a show with him?
joe rogan
Oh, it's funny.
shane gillis
That's really embarrassing.
joe rogan
It is embarrassing now because now you're just like totally friends with all these guys.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's totally normal.
That's what's weird.
Like, if I see Jon Stewart, no, I give him a hug.
Like, hey, what's up, dude?
It's like, it's totally normal.
He's just a person.
When you see someone that you've seen on TV, like when you're young, it's weird.
shane gillis
It is.
joe rogan
It takes a long time before it stops being weird.
shane gillis
That's why it's like when people come up to me and do the same thing I used to do.
So I'm always like, it's all right.
You know what I mean?
Like the first time I met Norman and List, it was after a show.
And I was standing next to him and I was like, you guys, it's funny.
You guys sound just the same as you do on podcasts.
I listen to you guys podcasts.
Who the fuck are you?
Yeah, it's brutal.
joe rogan
I mean, there's no way to be comfortable.
How can you be?
You have to go through it.
If you don't go through it, you're not going to be comfortable.
You've got to be weirded out.
You feel like no way around it.
shane gillis
You want them to be your friend.
Meeting TV Personalities Normally 00:14:12
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
shane gillis
You know what I mean?
You want them to like you.
They have no idea who you are.
You're like standing next to them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then it gets, you know.
There's levels of weirdness.
You know, like sometimes I've been, I'm in here talking to someone.
I'm like, that's fucking Quentin Tarantino.
Like, how weird is this?
I mean, sitting here talking to Quentin.
Like, there's certain guys that never stop being weird.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like always stays a little weird because they're so famous.
shane gillis
Yeah.
Mine's always athletes.
It's always an athlete that I didn't think was going to make me feel that way.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
unidentified
Well, how special they are.
shane gillis
Aaron Judge from the Yankees got me.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
I couldn't even talk.
It was fucking recent.
unidentified
It was crazy.
shane gillis
He was hitting batting practice before Philly's Yankees, and he saw me.
I didn't know he knew who I was.
He looked over before he was entering the cage and he was like, what's up?
And I was like, oh, shit.
And then he got done and he walked over.
He's like, what are you doing back there, big man?
And I was like, oh, dude.
You were hitting him.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
He's a horse, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a big horse.
shane gillis
Yeah, you have no idea.
I was full panic in that.
joe rogan
That's funny.
shane gillis
Full panic.
And then I think, yeah, that was the day me and my buddies did nine hot dogs, nine beers, nine innings.
Jeez.
O'Connor had seven hot dogs before the first bit.
He passed out.
He didn't have any beer.
He fell asleep for a whole game.
joe rogan
Just from the hot dogs.
shane gillis
Seven hot dogs.
And we were with my buddy H. Foley, and he was getting other food.
He's a big fucking guy.
joe rogan
Other than the nine hot dogs?
shane gillis
Nine hot dogs was the challenge.
joe rogan
And then other children.
shane gillis
I watched him get a fucking cheesesteak.
unidentified
And nine hot dogs.
Wow.
joe rogan
How big is he?
shane gillis
He's as big as he's a big fucker.
joe rogan
Big as it gets?
shane gillis
I feel bad.
I love him.
unidentified
But for real.
shane gillis
He's about as funny as it gets, though.
joe rogan
Nine hot dogs and a cheesesteak.
That's crazy.
That's a lot of volume.
Just like the sheer mass of it all.
You know?
shane gillis
Yeah, it was terrible.
joe rogan
You know that feeling that you get when you eat like a giant meal and then you look at yourself sideways in the mirror?
You're like, oh my God, I'm fucking pregnant.
shane gillis
Yeah, everyone.
Did it last night?
joe rogan
All those plates stacked up on top of each other.
Lately, I've been doing this one meal a day thing, like the last few days.
I don't think I'm going to stick with it.
Today I kind of cheated.
shane gillis
had a little bit of fruit but so last night i went to uh the if i had a little bit of fruit i'd be like i'm i'm the beacon of health It's crazy I had fucking fruit today.
joe rogan
You don't eat any fruit?
shane gillis
No.
joe rogan
No vitamins?
shane gillis
I take vitamins.
joe rogan
You take vitamins?
What are you taking?
shane gillis
Right now, just D, B, and C.
joe rogan
Okay.
shane gillis
And I got some zinc and magnesium in there.
joe rogan
You should go to Waste to Well, and you know what they'll do?
shane gillis
They did.
They gave me some shit.
joe rogan
But they'll give you one based on your blood profile.
shane gillis
They did.
Yeah.
joe rogan
They'll mix it for you.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, it's the best.
shane gillis
Yeah, it's great.
joe rogan
You don't have to think.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
I went to Waze Well fully going, I have to have diabetes.
The fucking, as soon as they took my blood, there was like four days from when I got the results.
I was in the green room talking to Simpson.
I was like, dude, there had to be symptoms, right?
He was like, no.
I just have diabetes.
I was like, fuck, I definitely have diabetes.
Nothing.
unidentified
Wow.
shane gillis
It's a good result.
joe rogan
That is a good result.
That's great.
That liver is a motherfucker, dude.
shane gillis
Couldn't believe it.
joe rogan
Yeah, your liver.
shane gillis
Your liver's all right.
joe rogan
Your liver's a motherfucker.
You know what?
It gets workouts.
I think the true.
shane gillis
It's jacked.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Your liver is jacked.
If you think about it, look, running all the time.
Look, running one time until your heart explodes is not good for you, right?
We all agree.
You get a heart attack, you die.
That's not good.
Drinking yourself to death one time is not good for you.
No, definitely not.
But running every day, a little bit, couple miles, you get in shape.
shane gillis
I think this is wrong, but I like where you're doing.
unidentified
You know where I'm going with this?
joe rogan
Like a little bit of whiskey, a little bit of booze, some drinking every day.
Toughing that fucking fucking liver is ready to go.
Your liver's like a marathon runner.
unidentified
Right?
shane gillis
Yeah, you'd think.
joe rogan
Well, it's like that's why you have the tolerance you have, clearly.
Right?
shane gillis
Because the tolerance comes from just light beer.
joe rogan
Right.
shane gillis
For real.
If you get me, if I take two shots, I'm like, I got to go home.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Stanhope does that too.
He just sips light beer.
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he moved it.
He went to a cocktail phase.
I don't know where he's at right now.
shane gillis
When I was with him, he was fully on white Russians.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
He was cocktail phase.
unidentified
Again, after he gets after it.
joe rogan
Still.
After all these years.
shane gillis
He was doing good last time I saw him.
joe rogan
He's great.
I heard he crushed at Skank Field.
shane gillis
He murdered.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Tony said, watched his set, and he said he was just clap.
Tony said he was just going like this in the back of the room.
Doug's always been one of the best.
And he's like, that's him.
Like, he's not putting on an act.
That's genuinely him 24-7 with his stupid suits on and just thinking everything is hilarious and hanging out with an army of idiots.
unidentified
Like, they fucking dudes that are like him.
They're all doing ridiculous shit.
Yeah.
shane gillis
When I was living there, it was just me and them.
I was the only guy that was like, oh, fuck.
These guys are all like 50 and 60.
joe rogan
Hey, man.
shane gillis
My boys.
joe rogan
We got to admire it.
No doctors.
Fuck this.
We're riding this thing until the wheels fall off.
shane gillis
Bingo was doing good too.
unidentified
That's great.
shane gillis
Everything.
It was nice to see.
joe rogan
Yeah, because when we were doing that End of the World podcast one time, that's when Bingo fell.
Oh, it's so scary, man.
Hitting your head.
It's so scary.
Speaking of hitting your head, what do you think is Jake Paul, Anthony Joshua fight?
That's tonight.
shane gillis
That is tonight.
And watch it.
Yeah, I'm definitely going to watch it.
unidentified
Where are you watching it?
shane gillis
I don't know.
We got a lot tonight.
We got Alabama, Oklahoma.
unidentified
Oh.
shane gillis
College football playoffs.
What else we got, J-Mo?
Just that?
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
All right.
joe rogan
That's all great.
shane gillis
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I can't get excited about that.
I can't get excited about that while Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua are fighting.
I'm very excited about this.
shane gillis
If Anthony Joshua doesn't take it easy, this should be.
joe rogan
How could he take it easy?
The whole world is watching.
There's not a chance he's going to make it look like this guy can box with him.
shane gillis
Can you imagine if Jake.
joe rogan
If he flatlines him?
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
What if he steps in and just right power bombs him right on the chin and Joshua's legs go out and he goes down?
shane gillis
It'd be the saddest.
It'd be sad.
joe rogan
Not for Jake Paul.
shane gillis
Of course.
That'd be awesome.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
Not for all days.
shane gillis
Anthony Joshua who's like, who was like going to be the guy?
jamie vernon
Destroy some sports books also, apparently.
shane gillis
What are those odds?
jamie vernon
They lose $100 million or something, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
That's where.
jamie vernon
Yeah, there's a lot of diet on the Jake Paul underdog right now.
joe rogan
There's people betting on him?
jamie vernon
Yeah, because he's got plus $650.
You're making six times the money you put in.
joe rogan
Yeah, but what are the odds?
jamie vernon
Really?
joe rogan
What are the odds, really?
I know that's the odds.
I literally said, what are the odds to the odds?
But I mean, if you.
unidentified
Look at Vegas.
joe rogan
It's like 99% in my eyes that Anthony Joshua either wins a decision or stops him.
This is because he is a two-time.
It's not saying Jake Paul's not a good boxer.
He's a real good boxer.
He's like very underrated.
But he's a two-time heavyweight world champion.
He's like one of the fucking scariest guys in the division.
Lightning fast punches.
245 fucking pounds.
He's huge.
He's way bigger.
Way more skilled.
shane gillis
He's like a foot taller.
What's the height difference?
I saw him at the weigh-in.
joe rogan
I think he's five inches taller, four or five inches taller.
But the point is, he's one of the best heavyweight boxers alive.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Jake Paul is a guy that is, you know, very impressive for a guy beating up Ben Askren and knocking out Tyron Woodley.
Very impressive.
There's levels.
Knocking out Mike Perry, very impressive.
There's levels.
This is a crazy jump.
shane gillis
That's why I think the only reason the odds are not 40 to 1 is.
joe rogan
People suspect shenanigans.
shane gillis
Shenanigans.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They suspect shenanigans.
But if they come out and fucking circle each other like pro wrestling and grab the ropes, we're going to be like, no.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
You motherfuckers.
shane gillis
When Nate fought him, that was great.
joe rogan
Well, listen, that's another fight.
Look, Nate, no disrespect to Nate, but Nate fought his career at 155 pounds for the most part.
A couple fights at 170.
You know, a very good boxer for MMA.
But Jake Paul had his hands full, and Nate had a bad.
shane gillis
These later rounds.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
The late rounds, Nate started.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Paul's 7-1 underdog had attracted 82% of the bets and 90% of the money that had been wagered on DraftKings on the winner.
What?
A Paul upset would result in nearly $100 million loss for the sports book.
Imagine if Jake Paul just hated DraftKings and they made a deal with Anthony Joshua.
It's like, let's bankrupt motherfuckers.
Let's bankrupt these motherfuckers.
We're going to bet it all on me.
I mean, that's like a Guy Ritchie movie.
shane gillis
It is.
But that's the other thing, because I saw Anthony, no disrespect to Anthony Joshua, but I saw, what fight was it a year or two ago where he grabbed the mic after and started giving a fucking crazy speech?
joe rogan
Oh, I don't remember that.
He did?
shane gillis
Yeah, he gave a little weird.
After he lost, he like, oh, wait, was it Daniel Duke?
joe rogan
Oh, Usick?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What did he say?
shane gillis
It was just kind of a weird thing to do after you lose, to grab the mic and talk to the crowd.
joe rogan
Well, I think it was in his hometown.
shane gillis
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Wasn't it?
Wasn't it in London?
shane gillis
Definitely wasn't in fucking Usix.
unidentified
No, I'm not making fun of the war.
joe rogan
No, like, just saying.
Exactly.
Who the fuck's going to travel there to see a fight?
I think that's probably why.
You know, in England, they like a loser who keeps his chin up.
Like a guy who loses.
unidentified
That's why I do well.
joe rogan
They like a respectable winner who's respectable and shows good sportsmanship and good character after it's over.
shane gillis
I could be wrong.
I just remember thinking it was odd.
joe rogan
It's probably a cultural thing.
jamie vernon
He left the ring and came back.
And then they shook.
And then I don't know what he says here, but he grabs the mic.
joe rogan
I don't know if it's just shit.
anthony joshua
Let's give him a round of applause.
unidentified
Oh, man.
anthony joshua
So that's just emotion.
Wait, wait, I'm talking.
unidentified
Sorry.
jamie vernon
Got a slag on his back.
unidentified
Sorry, though.
anthony joshua
Look, if you knew my story, you would understand the passion.
I ain't no amateur boxer from five years old.
That was an elite prospect from my youth, bro.
I was going to jail.
I see some technical youths in Redding Jail.
I got bail and I started training.
Because if I got sentenced, I wanted to be able to fight.
I bust my case.
But cousin Bengo, where's he at?
G14, raise your hand.
I'm stealing this Usix.
joe rogan
I never saw that.
shane gillis
He might take a dive, bro.
unidentified
He's a wild motherfucker.
anthony joshua
Guys, I'm telling you, this guy to be me tonight, maybe I could have done better, but it shows the levels of hard work he must have put in.
So please give him a round of applause as our heavyweight champion in the world.
joe rogan
It's a little odd.
He's still going.
shane gillis
I will say this.
I don't.
You know, you just kind of fight.
joe rogan
Right.
shane gillis
I used to cry whenever I got in a fight.
So I can't judge anyone.
I would have given this.
Dudes give that speech every time they lose a street fight.
Every single time.
They stand up.
They go, let's get a beer together, dude.
This guy's a fucking man.
You know?
joe rogan
Right, a little bit.
Yeah.
But it is a little weird.
It's definitely weird.
But there's some dudes that just, once they get the mic, they just want to start talking.
shane gillis
I hear you.
joe rogan
You know?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
There are dudes.
There's some dudes that I have to interview in the UFC, and the UFC is like, last question, stop.
No more questions.
Because they got to cut the commercial.
shane gillis
I like those, though.
Oh, so I like when the guy grabs the mic and just starts screaming.
joe rogan
Some of them are great.
unidentified
Some of them are great.
joe rogan
Chaos Sundan fucking mastered it.
He was the first guy.
He was the first guy to figure it out.
He was the first guy to figure out how to cut a pro-wrestling type promo inside the cage.
Like, Anderson Silva, you absolutely suck.
shane gillis
But it's like, what is going on here?
joe rogan
He's the greatest of all time.
shane gillis
He's so funny.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Chao was awesome.
shane gillis
Who's funnier than him?
McGregor was a funny one.
joe rogan
McGregor was really funny.
McGregor took shit talking to a whole new level.
shane gillis
Yes.
But I feel like Chao was.
joe rogan
But Chale opened the fucking door.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's the OG.
He's the OG of MMA shit talking for sure.
And still the most clever at it.
You know, he's very clever.
shane gillis
Yeah, the fucking Brazilians thinking a bus was a horse.
unidentified
He's so fucking.
joe rogan
He said he tried to feed it and care.
shane gillis
It's a good bit, dude.
joe rogan
He's quite a character, man.
He's quite a fucking character.
shane gillis
Yeah, McGregor's shit talk.
Yeah, who the fuck is that guy?
His current shit talk's my favorite.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
I love what he's up to.
The fucking Iliatatoro.
joe rogan
Do you think he's going to fight?
He keeps talking about making it to the White House.
But I just.
shane gillis
I hope he gets to the White House.
I'm going to do my best to go to the forest.
joe rogan
I hope he does that and that's it.
shane gillis
I'm not saying that.
joe rogan
And the Michael Chandler one is a good one.
That's a smart.
shane gillis
That'd be a fun one.
joe rogan
It's a marketable one because everybody knows they were supposed to fight years ago and they did the ultimate fighter together.
And also, Chandler's still fucking dangerous as shit.
He's not washed.
He's not in his prime, but he's like 38 or 39 years old now.
shane gillis
He'll go wild in that fight.
joe rogan
He's a dangerous guy.
He's crazy fit, too.
shane gillis
And he loves America, dude.
Get him in front of the fucking White House.
He's going to cry after the fight.
Yeah, he'll get knocked.
joe rogan
And he will do everything within his power to try to beat Connor.
shane gillis
Yeah, I'm going to not say anything bad about Trump until that fight.
Then I'm going to go, yo, that fucking bullshit tweet.
Conor McGregor vs. The White House 00:15:05
shane gillis
That sucked.
joe rogan
Bro, look what Mamdani called him a fascist and he had him in the Oval Office.
Did you see that?
shane gillis
True.
joe rogan
And he's like, you said Donald Trump.
He's like, it's okay.
Just go ahead.
unidentified
Just say it.
joe rogan
Just say it.
shane gillis
Bro.
joe rogan
He didn't give it.
shane gillis
I hate to get on Trump's stuff, but have you seen the plaques?
joe rogan
No.
I heard about it.
So his plaques under everybody's name?
shane gillis
Yeah, he's kind of trashing every other president.
joe rogan
And what does he do?
shane gillis
It trashes them all.
The Clinton one I read, he talks about Andrew Jackson.
I saw the Andrew Jackson and Clinton ones.
The Clinton one is like, basically, he kind of got lucky with the economy because of the fucking tech boom.
Also, then at the end, he's like, and then his wife tried to run against Donald Trump and lost.
joe rogan
That's a plaque.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Cousin Blood Filler lost the presidency.
joe rogan
Huh.
Does it really say he got lucky?
Like, who's writing these things?
He's not writing them.
shane gillis
Sleepy Joe Nidal.
joe rogan
Sleepy Joe Biden.
It says that.
jamie vernon
He's the first president of American history.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
He is writing it.
Oh, no, no, no.
Let me read it from the top.
This is so crazy.
That this is underneath a photo in the White House is so crazy.
Look at this.
Sleepy Joe Biden was by far the worst president in American history.
unidentified
This is so crazy.
joe rogan
Taking office as a result of the most corrupt election ever seen in the United States, Biden oversaw a series of unprecedented disasters.
What's the matter, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Elections capitalize?
Weird.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is weird.
Unprecedented disasters that brought our nation to the brink of destruction.
His policies caused the highest inflation ever recorded, leading the U.S. dollar to lose more than 20% of its value in four years.
His green news scam surrendered American energy dominance, and by abolishing the southern border, Biden let 21 million people from all over the world poor in the United States, including from prisons, jails, mental institutions, and insane asylums.
Isn't that like he said two things that are the same thing for both of them?
Jails, prisons, institutions insane asylums.
His Afghanistan disaster was amongst the most humiliating events in American history and resulted in the murder of 13 brave American service members, which many other gravely wounded.
Seeing with many others gravely mooned, what's wrong with me?
Seeing Biden's devastating weakness, Russia invaded Ukraine and Hamas terrorists launched their heinous October 7th attack on Israel.
This is crazy.
Nicknamed both sleepy and crooked by you.
unidentified
Nicknamed.
joe rogan
Like the whole public got together.
I got a name for this guy.
Was dominated by his radical left handlers.
Look how radical left is in caps, too.
They and their allies in the fake news media attempted to cover up his severe mental decline and unprecedented use of autopen.
This is so crazy.
You shouldn't be allowed to do this.
Right?
It should be like historians say this guy was president from Bapa Bay.
What's the point of it?
shane gillis
Does it say Donald Trump saved America?
joe rogan
Despite all, President Trump would get re-elected in a landslide and save America in all caps.
That's a plaque in the White House.
shane gillis
He's not beating the dictator charges.
This is like an African dictatorship.
jamie vernon
This is crazy.
I think they're changing the name of the Kennedy Center to the Trump Kennedy Center.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
unidentified
Somebody needs to tell him, like, hey, this is not good.
joe rogan
You can't do that.
Because then other people could do that, too.
And then the White House stops being the White House and it becomes whoever is in its house where he could just go crazy and say everybody else is a crook.
shane gillis
I don't think anyone's going to do what he's doing.
I don't think there's.
joe rogan
I mean, look, I hope not, but it opens up.
The problem is it opens up the door for someone on the left to do their version of it.
shane gillis
Who's going to be the Democrat?
Who's next?
Fucking Gavin Newsome?
He's not going to fucking put up a plaque.
joe rogan
Of course he would.
Of course he would.
He copies everything that Trump does.
He even tries to talk like Trump on Twitter.
You don't think that he would put up plaques that talk about how corrupt Trump was and about how terrible and he was quoted as lying over 5,000 times by Washington Post.
shane gillis
Yeah, but he doesn't have to put up a plaque.
That'll just be everywhere.
joe rogan
I mean, but he could put that under his photo, though.
Like, that's never been a thing that people did before.
shane gillis
For sure.
joe rogan
Right?
I mean, I'm guessing.
What was it before?
jamie vernon
You hear he added that Ronald Reagan was a fan of President Trump's long before his historic run for the White House?
joe rogan
Oh, that's so disturbing.
That's such crazy.
shane gillis
Fucking lackey put that shit up and was like, do you like this?
Of course he's going to fucking like it.
joe rogan
Bro, he wrote it.
What are you talking about?
You don't think he wrote it?
You think a lackey wrote it?
shane gillis
I don't fuck if I know.
I don't know what's going on.
joe rogan
Whoever's writing his tweets wrote that.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Same shit.
shane gillis
He's got to be writing his tweets.
joe rogan
I think they made a video of it, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So the video is like he says things and someone types it out for him.
shane gillis
He fucked up on Twitter this week.
joe rogan
What, with the Rob Reiner thing?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
It's all crazy.
shane gillis
Like, so if he didn't do the Rob Reiner thing and then put up those plaques, I'd be like, yeah, that's funny.
But then the Rob Reiner thing, you're like, god damn it, dude.
joe rogan
Well, the plaques are crazy.
shane gillis
The plaques are crazy.
joe rogan
The plaques are crazy.
It's like you're the White House is supposed to be where each new president, the new guy comes in, you won the new election.
Congratulations.
Let me show you around.
This is what it's like.
These are all the photos.
What's funny?
unidentified
Another good one.
jamie vernon
I think this is the tint.
Look at the, I think that's the photo for Joe Biden.
joe rogan
It's an auto-pen?
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
Okay.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
That's so crazy.
shane gillis
But again, it's still funny.
When he does crazy shit, when he does crazy shit and it's funny, I like it.
joe rogan
Right.
But the Rob Reiner thing is not funny, right?
And that's like the same thing.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's the same kind of thinking.
And when you see it with no empathy, that's when it's hard to like.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
I wish he could apologize.
I know you can, but he won't.
joe rogan
Listen, there's no justification for what he did that makes any sense in a compassionate society.
It's no different than people that were celebrating when Charlie Kirk got shot.
shane gillis
That's what it is.
Yeah, that's the thing that bothers me.
joe rogan
Same kind of thing.
shane gillis
Bro, it'd be like if Obama tweeted rest in piss.
unidentified
Imagine.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
Imagine.
Imagine if Obama tweeted something about someone after they died in this way, that this person was a deranged, that person had hated Obama, and he wrote Obama like all caps.
unidentified
Imagine if Obama talked about Trump.
joe rogan
Do you imagine if Obama talks like Trump?
shane gillis
He hated Obama.
joe rogan
That was his thing.
He talks about himself in third person.
That would be crazy.
It just shows you how crazy it is the way Trump thinks and talks.
unidentified
It's just like the guy got sliced up by his kid.
joe rogan
You know, anybody that doesn't see that and go, fuck, man.
Yeah, it's the worst.
shane gillis
Also, the kid's claiming not guilty right now.
joe rogan
Oh, Carl.
unidentified
Okay.
I like it.
joe rogan
By reason of what?
shane gillis
I like the movie.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
It's so dark, man.
shane gillis
Yeah, it's really fucking horrendous.
joe rogan
But on the other side of it, the Rob Reiner thing was crazy because Rob Reiner made it a mission to try to get Trump out of office and to try to get Trump arrested.
And there's this really weird video where he's sitting there with John Brennan and James Clapper, these two top dog spooks.
And they're talking about how this is unacceptable that Trump is president.
I'm like, this is a crazy thing to, and like high production value.
So it's like all filmed together.
They're coming up with reasons why they have to remove Trump from office.
Maybe they knew something.
shane gillis
All that sucked.
I think that sucked.
But then, dude, you get murdered next to your wife by your son.
Horrible.
That's like the worst thing possible.
The worst thing.
The president.
joe rogan
Right.
It's a crazy thing to put out.
shane gillis
By the time this episode comes out, we'll have moved on.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it seems like, you know, it seems like whenever something like that happens, where someone is happy that someone died, so many people just, you feel so disappointed.
You know, you just feel like it's so disappointing.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's like, why, why, if you say that privately, that's one thing, which is also crazy.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's so disappointing.
I mean, someone would have to be the worst person ever.
And then you're like, you know what?
Fuck that guy.
But Jesus.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the way it happened, too.
unidentified
Like, yo.
shane gillis
The way it happened makes it makes it 10 times worse.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
And you know, he died.
shane gillis
He died in like a funny way.
unidentified
Right.
You know?
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
unidentified
Then it would be if he was like, I'm going to fucking parachute out of a plane.
joe rogan
Right.
shane gillis
There you go.
unidentified
Something stupid.
joe rogan
Oh, he's bungee jumping.
He lied about his weight.
shane gillis
But then the worst possible way to die.
joe rogan
The worst possible way to die.
shane gillis
I mean, and he did, before all the political shit, he did rule.
joe rogan
Oh, he had amazing movies.
He fucking ruled.
Guy made amazing movies.
shane gillis
He ruled.
joe rogan
I mean, let's bring up Rob Reiner's filmography.
How many great.
He wanted to come on the podcast and talk about JFK.
shane gillis
That would have been sick.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know why that never happened.
What films did he do?
unidentified
Start off with.
I don't think Spinal Tap might have been the first one, but Spinal Bride, Stand By Me, okay.
joe rogan
Stand by Me and Princess Bride, two of the greatest.
shane gillis
A few good men?
Wait, he made a few good men?
joe rogan
Bro, Misery?
He did Misery?
Fucking amazing movie.
Let me.
shane gillis
Was he a producer on a few good men?
unidentified
Directors.
jamie vernon
We went to one because he did a lot of stuff too.
He's been in movies, directed them.
So here you go, like writer, predictor, or sorry, producer, writer, director, different and all.
shane gillis
He did direct a few good men.
unidentified
Man, yeah.
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
He made some bangers.
unidentified
When Harry met Sally, he was a dad move of Wall Street.
shane gillis
He was hilarious in that.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, that's right.
I forgot about that.
jamie vernon
Spinal Tap was supposed to come out.
I think I read they put that on fold right now.
shane gillis
Yeah, horrendous.
unidentified
That's like.
joe rogan
Don't put anything out.
There's certainly take his fucking phone.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
There's certain things the administration does that I'm just like, damn, you can't defend it.
Like the, like, the, I don't think it's the administration necessarily, but they've definitely allowed it to happen where like fucking ICE is making funny videos about deporting people.
Yeah.
And then like, like shit like this, it's like, damn, dude.
That's fucking terrible.
joe rogan
They use Theo.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They use Theo and a totally unrelated clip that like some lady said, my friend has to leave the country.
Will you make a video?
I heard you got deported.
shane gillis
I mean, I knew that video existed before.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
I'm the one editing the DHS.
joe rogan
It's just Theo being funny.
And they use that in this ICE thing, and Theo's like, whoa.
And he had a really good response, too.
He got them to take it down.
But his response, see if you can find it.
Something that his opinions on immigration are much more nuanced.
shane gillis
I mean, that's the truth, though.
It's like, yeah, sure.
Illegal immigration's, we should fix that.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
Don't fucking make it funny.
It's a serious thing.
It's a serious thing you're doing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Why would you make it funny at all?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, is the thought like that that'll make it popular on TikTok and it'll spread that way?
Is that the thought?
That it'll be a video will get people to want to sign up.
shane gillis
I think a lot of those people are obviously just weird fucking psychos that are in that world.
I don't know.
joe rogan
I heard something that I don't know if it's true.
It was about the Brown shooting, the Brown University shooting.
And it's people claiming that the security cameras had been disabled.
shane gillis
Yes.
jamie vernon
I was trying to get Theo's tweet.
Here's just the quote of what it said.
joe rogan
Oh, he says, DHS, I didn't approve to be used in this.
I know you know my address, so send a check.
And please take this down, and please keep me out of your banger deportation videos. Vaughn said on his ex-account.
When it comes to immigration, my thoughts and heart are a lot more nuanced than this video allows.
Bye, Vaughn added.
Perfect response.
shane gillis
Calling them banger videos is hilarious.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're ridiculous.
shane gillis
Yeah, they suck.
joe rogan
They suck.
It's like, why are you doing that?
I thought you're trying to get rid of like the worst people in the world.
You're not trying to be entertaining.
Like, the job is to get rid of the worst people in the world.
Like, but that's what we're, you know, that's what we wanted.
We wanted them to get rid of cartel members and terrorists, the worst people in the world.
That's who we were hoping for.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
But then it's like, anybody.
I bet they have quotas.
I bet they're told they do.
shane gillis
Without a doubt.
joe rogan
Whenever you give a quota to enforcing a law, you get into weird territory.
That's when cops pull people over for bullshit.
shane gillis
Yeah.
That's how most of my buddies got DUIs.
unidentified
Cops needed quite friends.
joe rogan
They just took a chance.
shane gillis
Me and Jamie were just talking about that.
How just our hometown.
Just miss it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
I was built.
That's what I was built for.
joe rogan
Hometowns.
shane gillis
Nine to five and then go to a bar.
joe rogan
That's what you built for us?
Did you miss those days?
shane gillis
I miss it a lot.
joe rogan
Really?
shane gillis
I miss going to the bar.
joe rogan
Just for fun.
shane gillis
Just sitting there hanging out.
We had.
We could have beat Lancaster Catholic.
That was fucking crazy.
We lost that fucking.
That's what I'm going to talk about when I get home for Christmas.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's funny.
And you look forward to that?
shane gillis
I do.
Shit rules.
High school buddies, they all have families now.
Yeah.
It's nice, especially when your friends get families, it's nice to go out with them.
When you see them get that one night off, you go, oh, this guy's about to fucking black out.
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shane gillis
This is going to be crazy.
I have friends come to shows and just fall apart.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
unidentified
That's so funny.
shane gillis
Yeah, no, sorry about the derailing it from that actual conversation.
joe rogan
No, it's okay.
I don't even remember what we were talking about.
shane gillis
What are you talking about?
jamie vernon
Security cameras.
joe rogan
Oh, the Brown University thing.
Now, why did they have the security cameras?
Why were they disabled?
Because I don't even want to say what I read.
shane gillis
The thing online was saying, yeah, it was ICE.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That it was because they wanted to stop ICE from using the feed to locate illegals that are working on the campus, maybe, or maybe citizens that are, or students rather.
Yeah.
Because they've done some wild chant.
Like they did.
I don't know if they wind up deporting that lady, but they were trying to deport that lady because she was a student and she wrote an essay that was critical of Israel.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
And they want to know how a school with a $9 billion endowment does not have cameras on one of the older buildings at the edge of the campus where this happened.
Not even in the front door.
joe rogan
Who's coming and going?
unidentified
Now they asked this question knowing that the shooter may have done whatever he wanted, but the cameras A would have deterred or B captured a better look at them and we wouldn't be here today five days out.
I want you to explain that because there's a lot of parents who are wondering where are you investing your money.
Yeah, I appreciate that question and I want to reiterate as our president did that supporting our students and communicating to the parents, to our community about our support is of utmost importance.
We have 1,200 cameras located throughout the campus.
We don't publish the locations of the cameras.
That would give a map to somebody to evade detection on the cameras.
So that would be counterproductive to do that.
There are cameras in this building.
And as I answered the previous question, we have turned over all evidence that we are holding it brown to law enforcement and are cooperating fully with them.
So you're saying that there's a camera music, there's cameras in the building.
I was told yesterday there wasn't cameras in the building.
The attorney general said, old building.
shane gillis
Come on camera right now, you fucker.
unidentified
I believe he said that there were two different phases of the building that might have two different levels of technology.
Again, all video imagery has been turned over to law enforcement.
That doesn't make sense.
For me, I think this was good.
joe rogan
Okay, this is contradictory to what I read.
What I read was that somebody had disabled them.
So he was saying there is cameras, and they turned over all footage.
shane gillis
There's got to be cameras.
joe rogan
But the thing is, like, when you hear a story, like, they disabled it for ICE, like, is that story total bullshit?
And is that story designed to get people to tweet that out so that other people start believing it?
shane gillis
For sure.
They were naming the fucking shooter.
I thought, did you see that?
Yeah, how did you get it?
No, before they got the Portuguese guy.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
shane gillis
They were naming a different name?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, no.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who's the different guy?
shane gillis
I was all over it.
I was going, this motherfucker, how dare you?
joe rogan
Who was the different guy?
shane gillis
It was a kid that was in protests and shit, like a Gaza kid.
So they instantly named him and, yeah, whatever.
joe rogan
So he's going to get paid.
shane gillis
He should.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
shane gillis
He should.
joe rogan
Remember the Atlanta one where the guy ruined his life and they said he was a bomber?
It was just a security guy.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Remember that guy?
shane gillis
Yeah, the movie.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Fuck is his name?
joe rogan
I forget his name, too.
But I remember the real story.
shane gillis
Paul Walter Hauser plays him in.
I hope I'm getting that name right.
I know that guy.
He's the man.
unidentified
Richard Jewell.
shane gillis
Richard Jewell.
jamie vernon
I was there that day.
shane gillis
You were in Atlanta?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I was there.
joe rogan
That's a crowd.
unidentified
That's crazy.
What?
jamie vernon
Yeah, when we were headed home.
The only reason we weren't there when it went off was because we couldn't get scalp tickets to watch the Dream Team play.
The guy that we were trying to buy him from ripped him up in front of my dad and just threw him in the fucking sewer.
We're like, what?
shane gillis
Yo, who does that?
You are.
You are Ohio trash.
You went to the Olympics to scalp Dream Team.
jamie vernon
No, we went to other stuff, but we didn't have tickets to that game.
So we were like, let's find tickets to the game.
shane gillis
What else did you see?
jamie vernon
Like a volleyball game and a baseball game.
joe rogan
Richard Jewell, right?
Yeah, Richard Jewell.
I just sent you this thing.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I found a thing on Twitter about it.
It says there's an open letter in August that anti-ICE protesters wanted the cameras disabled, but I didn't see that it actually happened.
I'll find your message.
joe rogan
Bro.
shane gillis
It's all weird.
I've kind of checked out.
joe rogan
Let me hear this.
Human rights group.
Yeah, it's so.
Human rights group to you university administrators dismantle surveillance to defend free speech now.
Huh?
unidentified
I don't know if they did it.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
unidentified
It comes out from your detectives.
They're a friend of mine.
They're angry at this investigation.
If these people in Brown University put the camera off, they can identify that person.
You imagine how the family want to go through?
Tell the truth to the media here.
You guys are putting cameras off.
joe rogan
We heard from the Brown Police Chief.
jamie vernon
Isn't that where that girl got taken for writing the letter right when this all started?
Wasn't she a Brown student or something?
joe rogan
I thought it was Columbia.
I don't remember, though.
I don't remember, though.
See if you could find that story because that story is also fucking crazy.
Like, you're deporting a student for having an opinion about a world war.
It's a war that's happening, right?
At least from one side of it.
Like, having an opinion is a problem that gets you ejected from the country?
Like, especially you're at a university, which is supposed to be a place where ideas get challenged.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
Yeah, it turns out both sides are totally hypocritical and do exactly what the other side did.
joe rogan
It's interesting because we're getting to see it more clearly than we've ever seen it before, right?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
It seems like it.
jamie vernon
It was Tufts University.
joe rogan
Tufts.
Arrested and detained by ICE agents in Somerville, Massachusetts.
What did she say?
jamie vernon
She wrote up something in the newspaper, I think.
Like the school newspaper.
joe rogan
Right.
But what was it?
Let's see if we could read it.
I wonder what got her deported.
What were the words?
jamie vernon
Criticizing leadership.
joe rogan
She criticized Tufts' leadership response to the Tufts Community Union Senate passing several resolutions concerning human rights violations in Gaza months after the op-ed was written and just weeks before she was detained.
The website Canary Mission published a profile on Ms. I don't know how to say her name Oz Turk, including her photograph claiming she engaged in anti-Israel activism.
Its sole support for the contention was a link in screenshots of her op-ed.
When asked about her case, Secretary of State Marco Rubio confirmed revoking her visa, adding, we gave you a visa to come and study and get a degree, not to become a social activist that tears up our university campuses.
shane gillis
Shut up, Marco.
joe rogan
So she was asking, please.
So she was asking, she was criticizing Tufts' leadership's response to the Tufts Community Union Senate passing several resolutions.
So she must be a part of the Tufts Community Union Senate, or someone is.
So they passed several resolutions concerning human rights violations.
So like, what is like, what was she?
I want to know what she actually said.
You know what I mean?
I mean, we're getting a synopsis of what her actual op-ed was.
unidentified
I can find the op-ed.
joe rogan
See if we can find it.
It's just interesting.
Because what can get you kicked out of a country that is the most pro-free speech country on planet Earth?
Like, what gets you kicked out?
Is it really?
shane gillis
Free speech.
joe rogan
Right.
But is it only that one?
Is it only that one?
Like, what if you had an opinion on Ukraine and Russia?
Would that get you kicked out?
shane gillis
I doubt it.
joe rogan
That's weird, right?
shane gillis
Certainly is.
joe rogan
That's kind of weird.
unidentified
It's a little bit more.
You notice?
shane gillis
Give me two more beers.
I'll let you know.
I'll let you know my algorithm's been cheating me.
joe rogan
It's kind of crazy because, you know, unless someone is outright calling for violence or revolution or to ignore the laws or ignore the rules, if they're just having an opinion on a gigantic international conflict, that seems crazy to want to kick him out of the country.
Unless there's something more that I don't know.
shane gillis
Yeah, maybe she must have said something you would think pretty crazy.
But I bet you she didn't.
joe rogan
Yeah, she might have.
shane gillis
We'll see.
I bet it was a wild-ass statement.
joe rogan
Oh, this is so long.
Try again, President Kumar, renewing calls for Tufts to adopt March 4th TCU Senate resolutions.
University's response is wholly inadequate and dismissive of the Senate, the collective voice of the student body.
First of all, why would Tufts be doing anything about what's happening in Gaza?
And what could they really do?
You know what I'm saying?
shane gillis
Yeah, but if, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what could they really do?
unidentified
I don't know.
shane gillis
They might stop it.
jamie vernon
Investments and divesting from companies and direct and direct ties to Israel is what they were talking about.
joe rogan
Right.
But the problem is, aren't those companies, Israel's not a communist dictatorship.
So those companies that you're not going to invest in, they're just citizens of Israel.
Like you're citizens of America.
You know what I mean?
It's like there's a lot of people that were protesting that in Yahoo before October 7th.
It's like not everybody agrees with everybody.
It's not like Israel's a monoculture that only has like one thing that they think.
There's a lot of people over there that don't like their government.
So like to ban their business and not use their business.
shane gillis
Fuck if I know.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
What does that do?
It puts pressure on them to vote differently, I guess.
Yeah.
shane gillis
Yeah, where'd she, where was she from?
joe rogan
But again, isn't that just an opinion?
It's an opinion.
shane gillis
It didn't even, I don't think she even said anything that wild in there.
joe rogan
No.
Is that what the fuck she got kicked out for?
There's probably a lot more to it, but just one of three or four authors of this paper, even.
That's one of those things where you got to be able to talk about shit like that.
And if you can talk about shit like that, if you're from Ohio and they're not going to send you out of the country somewhere, you know what I'm saying?
Why can't you talk about it if you're from another country?
I feel like once you are in America legally, shouldn't we treat you like a fucking American?
Other than, you know.
shane gillis
Certainly.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Other than you being able to vote yet.
But once you're here legally, we've agreed.
They can.
unidentified
A lot of places.
joe rogan
Turns out they can.
unidentified
It turns out a ton of votes.
joe rogan
It's not zero.
It's not zero.
Anybody who says it's zero is fucking lying.
Did you see that most recent thing about the Georgia elections?
shane gillis
No.
joe rogan
Oh, it's kind of crazy.
shane gillis
I told you, I checked out, dude.
I'm watching Fighter Jet highlight videos on my phone.
joe rogan
You're better off that way.
You're better off checking out.
shane gillis
I'm waiting for the college football playoffs.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Patiently.
joe rogan
They found a ton of, well, I don't want to put it.
Let me pause for a second when I find this.
jamie vernon
I got the tweet.
joe rogan
You got it?
jamie vernon
Yeah, but I think it's a – I don't think it – I don't know either.
I'm not paying attention to this.
It's found votes is what I'm talking about.
joe rogan
Well, they were saying that 315,000 early votes lacked the poll workers' signatures.
shane gillis
We don't dispute the allegation.
joe rogan
Right.
So if that's true, they admit that 315,000 votes lacked poll workers' signatures and they were counted in 2020.
I don't think that's legal.
Let's put that into perplexity.
Is that legal?
Like, if that's true, is that legal?
And should those votes have counted?
Because here's where it gets crazy.
Trump lost to Biden in Georgia by I think it was 11,000 votes.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I read, though, that they'd already done a hand count of these votes since because this has been disputed for the last five years.
joe rogan
So what does that mean?
They did a hand count of the votes.
The thing is, it doesn't have the poll signature, right?
jamie vernon
I'm just saying that's separate from the poll signature.
joe rogan
I don't even know what that means.
Right, but what the accusation, at least, is that 315,000 lacked.
So put the tweet up again so we can read the accusation.
It says 315,000 early votes that lack poll workers' signatures.
So a poll worker is supposed to sign every one of them, right?
jamie vernon
I was trying to read into what this means.
There's something like each day when they use the machine, they have to zero out the machine to make sure it's starting at zero.
And then at the end of the day, you got to sign off on what it says.
Someone counted them or something like that.
And they don't have evidence because there wasn't anything being signed that this even started at zero.
They could have had their sample tally still on there from their practicing the machines to make sure they counted right.
There's a lot of discrepancies on what that could have meant.
I think it's a chain of custody issue.
I don't know, again, what that means specifically to this particular issue.
joe rogan
So it could mean many things.
And one of the things that it could mean is that 315,000 early votes were bullshit.
jamie vernon
They also don't know who voted for who in those 315,000 votes.
joe rogan
Right.
shane gillis
To bad if we tallied those up.
joe rogan
That's right.
jamie vernon
I think I was reading into these two.
Some people are like, this is nonsense because they've already gone back and counted them all, but people are fighting with those people in it.
joe rogan
The problem is when you asked Trump about it, like when I had him on the podcast, I'm like, you think they stole the 2020 election?
Like, tell me what's the evidence.
shane gillis
He didn't.
joe rogan
Well, he might not have remembered.
He might have just said, tell me what they did and had somebody work on it.
And then they told him.
And then he starts talking about it, but he didn't really go in depth about it.
I don't know.
But he didn't have a satisfactory answer.
shane gillis
No, he didn't.
I was hoping he did.
joe rogan
I was hoping he did, too.
shane gillis
I was hoping he would have said they stole it through propaganda and shit.
Or what happened in those years.
joe rogan
Certainly.
shane gillis
And instead it was just down to voter fraud and like.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Which I'm sure there was some, but it was like you could have had an argument with what happened in 2020 and leading up to it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You could definitely have a thing where you see with the FBI and the Twitter files and all that shit with the Hunter Biden laptop story.
shane gillis
He didn't even bring that up.
joe rogan
Yeah, I should have brought that up.
FBI Files and Hunter Biden 00:15:40
joe rogan
Georgia officials and complaints agree that failing to obtain required poll worker signatures on the tabulator tapes for roughly 315,000 early vote ballots in Fulton County was a violation of Georgia election procedure law, i.e. it was not done in compliance with the statute.
That does not automatically mean individual voters did anything wrong or that their ballots are criminally illegal, but it does mean the county certification process for those votes did not follow the state legal requirements.
So those are not supposed to have been counted.
Is that what they're saying?
Because it didn't follow the requirements?
That's what they're saying.
So it's a scroll back up again so I can hear.
So it says poll workers must also print and sign zero tapes at the start of voting to show machines begin at zero, and these signed tapes serve as the official certification that reported totals from the scanner are authentic.
That's what they require.
So they require people to do that.
So maybe someone didn't do that, what they were required.
That's a possibility.
shane gillis
I think 36 did.
joe rogan
36 of 37 advanced voting precincts in Fulton County had failed to sign the tabulation tapes, including that the county violated official election record document processes required by statute.
The ones the voting precincts put this in that failed to sign the tabulation tapes, were they predominantly Republican or Democrat?
shane gillis
Just Google Fulton County and click images.
joe rogan
I think you know.
unidentified
What do you think?
shane gillis
I don't know.
Well, I mean, if the Republicans are complaining about it, it's obviously a Democrat.
unidentified
Right.
shane gillis
For sure.
Predominantly, it was close.
joe rogan
Here we go.
shane gillis
That's how I would have spelled it.
That's how I would have spelled it.
joe rogan
I thought it was right.
shane gillis
I can't believe anything's wrong, though.
joe rogan
I thought it was right.
I wonder if AI would have figured it out.
jamie vernon
It would have.
joe rogan
With Perplexity would have.
Yeah, yeah.
Specific 36 and 37 advanced voting locations with unsigned tapes are not publicly broken out by party, but Fulton County as a whole is strongly Democratic.
And its advanced early vote totals in 2020 were overwhelmingly Democratic.
In other words, those affected advanced voting sites would be expected to be predominantly Democrat in their results, not Republican.
Weird that 36 out of 37 that have unsigned tapes are strong Democratic, and that there's 315,000 votes that aren't supposed to be there.
They didn't sign for the, but it's okay.
Don't worry about it.
We just forgot to tally.
shane gillis
Fuck it.
We forgot to tally.
joe rogan
Whoopsies.
We were so busy making sure we saved democracy that we forgot to tally.
shane gillis
They saved it.
It was fucking good four years.
joe rogan
What a great move, though.
If they really did steal the election, like, wow.
Is that the first time anyone's ever done it?
I don't know if they did it.
I'm not saying they did it, but I'm saying if they did do it, like, what a great movie that would be.
shane gillis
There's no way.
joe rogan
A bunch of fucking pink-haired dorks who really do hijack the system in the fucking back rooms, like licking envelopes and sealing mail-in ballots.
jamie vernon
I asked the thing I read, and it says that they're both hand-counted and fully audited after the fact.
I asked after they had found a problem certification, and it says that they did.
joe rogan
Hand-counted and fully audited after the fact.
shane gillis
There's no way the people that didn't sign are the ones making sure to tell everyone it was hand-counted, right?
joe rogan
It says hand-counted, but then recounted by Michelle.
Now, and those process included Fulton, even though the later issue about unsigned early voting tapes was not corrected by a new post-2024 hand count.
Wait a minute.
What does that mean?
The issue about unsigned early voting tapes was not corrected by a new post-2024 hand count.
unidentified
Hmm.
jamie vernon
That's where I get.
This is a weird.
I don't know what any of this stuff means, to be honest with you.
joe rogan
Yeah, what does that mean?
That's what's confusing.
Was there 315 weird votes or not?
Because that is the main right-wing.
I bet if you went on Truth Social and asked them how did they steal the election, they'd fucking—I bet you can't get banned from Truth Social, right?
You probably can't get banned.
shane gillis
Maybe you say something liberal.
joe rogan
You'd have to say, but you'd have to be crazy liberal.
Or if you said, I believe that there's two genders on Blue Sky, you're Dunzies.
shane gillis
Are you?
joe rogan
Instant.
Gone.
So yeah.
shane gillis
Blueski's nuts.
joe rogan
Bro, they go crazy.
Do you know what McCann told us?
shane gillis
I do.
I do know what he told us.
I don't know how true that is.
joe rogan
Yeah, we should find out.
shane gillis
Yeah, let's find out.
joe rogan
So McCann says that they created a ban in Australia on social media for kids under 16.
That this ban includes Instagram and TikTok, but does not include Blue Sky.
If that's true, that is crazy.
You just, you like up until 16 years old, the only way you get to communicate is the most radically leftist site available.
In Blue Sky, I saw this lady, one guy rather, said, I'm trying to be Zen about it.
Like something happened to him.
I'm trying to be Zen about it.
And then this other guy underneath it chimes in.
It would be great if you would stop being racist to Asians.
shane gillis
Maybe he was being funny.
joe rogan
No, no, There's no humor.
There's no humor.
It is a fucking SSRI soup.
There's no humor over there.
There's no humor.
shane gillis
I fuck with Blueski.
I got to get on there.
I thought it was Blue Ski for so long.
unidentified
Call it Blue Ski.
joe rogan
I bet a lot of people are going to call it that.
shane gillis
Blue Ski's nice.
joe rogan
They'll ban the fuck out of you.
The law's initial list of restricted platforms includes Facebook, Instagram, X, TikTok, YouTube, Snapchat, Reddit, Threads, Kick, and Twitch.
Other platforms, including Stream, Steam, Blue Sky, WhatsApp, and YouTube Kids were considered but not included in the ban.
So that's true.
So Blue Sky, which is just Twitter, but for super hardcore lefties, is not included in the movie.
shane gillis
Bro, did they ban Truth Social?
joe rogan
Doesn't seem like they did.
Put that into perplexity.
Find out if the Australian ban includes True Social.
shane gillis
They're banning Trump's tweets.
joe rogan
Imagine if you get on True Social when you're 13, they'll look at Buck Wild, but Blue Ski's just like tanking kids.
shane gillis
That's wild.
joe rogan
Turning kids trans left and right.
jamie vernon
Reddit's available.
shane gillis
I thought it just said Reddit was not.
joe rogan
I thought they said Reddit was one of the bands.
jamie vernon
The link I just clicked said it could extend the Reddit Twitch and Roblox, even dating apps.
joe rogan
Oh, some people are bribing them.
shane gillis
Let's be honest.
joe rogan
It's Roblox.
People are bribing them.
shane gillis
Reddit's a little.
Yeah, this is the Reddit's left-leaning.
jamie vernon
Reddit is among the companies that has approached.
I think they need to have certain things on their websites, and those websites that are banned don't have those blocks and filters available.
shane gillis
I tell you, I tried to try to jack off on Reddit.
unidentified
Tell you that.
shane gillis
Because they banned Pornhub here.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
shane gillis
So I was like, I heard people jack off on Reddit, and I try to avoid Reddit.
And as soon as I opened it, first thing was like, Shane Gillis fucking sucks now.
No.
I still got one off, but it was a tough one.
joe rogan
There's a lot of mean, angry people out there, Shane.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of people are not happy.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
That is a porn thing's a weird one, too, because kids know about VPNs.
You're just keeping stupid shits from jerking off.
shane gillis
It's probably good.
It's probably.
joe rogan
You want the stupid ones out of cum so they're not making dumb decisions.
shane gillis
You're making another good point.
joe rogan
Yeah, you want them all dried out.
shane gillis
You sound like you're tweeting on Blue Sky, though.
joe rogan
All the stupid kids, you just want them jerking off as much as possible.
You should have an IQ test to see if you could get porn.
And that IQ test should be really making sure you're dumb.
And if you're too smart, fuck you.
shane gillis
Yeah, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Like if you pass it, you got to go study.
shane gillis
You go study.
joe rogan
But if you hit like a 65 on the, they just go, go ahead, jack off.
shane gillis
Wow, jack off.
joe rogan
Imagine that?
That would be a way that would keep dumb people sedated.
Just give them as much as possible.
shane gillis
If they are sedated, maybe that's what they're doing to us.
unidentified
To all of us.
joe rogan
Just keep giving us live porn 24-7 anytime you want it.
Hop on a website.
That's a good way to keep dumb people just dried up, outagiz, creepy, no motivation.
shane gillis
Pretty crazy.
Used to, you know, it's a classic bit, but you got to, it used to be an ordeal to get your hands on that.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
Now it's just like, I'll be watching a.
I was watching Revolutionary War Doc last night.
In between, I was just like, pause.
All right, let's see what happened to Ticonderoga.
joe rogan
You are one of 99% of the population of men when they're alone.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
I'm watching Ken Burns Revolution.
unidentified
Right.
shane gillis
Seahawks, Seahawks Rams just finished up.
Classic game.
Toss on some Revolutionary War.
Started dragging a little.
I said, fuck it, pause.
unidentified
Jack off.
shane gillis
I didn't know Benedict Arnold was the hero of Ticonderoga.
joe rogan
Now you're actually interested and not distracted.
shane gillis
Fully not distracted.
joe rogan
Do you know John Lilly, the guy who invented the sensory deprivation tank?
shane gillis
No, I don't.
joe rogan
He was involved.
shane gillis
He's cracking them off in there.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
shane gillis
He definitely had a family.
He was like, This is a chamber that no one can go in.
He was jacking off, dude.
joe rogan
Probably.
But more importantly, he also ran this research where they were working with dolphins.
It was like he was a pioneer in interspecies communication.
So they were attempting to teach dolphins how to speak.
And so this lady, I'm not bullshitting here.
I know.
shane gillis
This lady is the dumbest group.
joe rogan
Dumbest idea.
They were all on ketamine.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
This lady lived in a house that was like three feet high in water with a fucking dolphin.
And the thing was, they found out that she had to jack the dolphin off.
If she didn't jack the dolphin off, the dolphin would not pay attention.
shane gillis
I've heard this story.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So she would, every day she would jack him off, and they went, What?
Cancel this fucking project.
Yeah, but this lady's jacking off dolphins.
shane gillis
I bet you by the 100th, 120th time jacking him off, he was like, oh, shit.
Holy fuck.
joe rogan
The problem with dolphins is they don't have lips, right?
So they make a totally different kind of sound.
You can't get them to sound like a human.
And these fucking idiots are like, hello.
unidentified
Hello.
joe rogan
He's like, yeah.
shane gillis
I swear to God, the Nazis were trying to get dogs to talk.
joe rogan
Oh, I bet they were.
shane gillis
Everyone's trying to get.
joe rogan
What's that, Jerry?
shane gillis
Everyone's trying to get animals to talk.
joe rogan
What do you got?
What is it?
jamie vernon
The whole documentary called The Dolphin House.
joe rogan
Oh, about the place where this lady lived.
Yeah.
That's literally there, I think.
shane gillis
I hate to be this guy, but I would hit pause on that documentary and crack one off.
unidentified
Fully.
shane gillis
I'd be disappointed in myself.
joe rogan
So this lady just lived with a fucking dolphin.
Where was this?
Where were they?
Like, where was the house?
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
She just had to jack that dolphin off all the time.
shane gillis
Think if that was your wife, and then this documentary comes out later, and you're like, What?
joe rogan
What did you do?
shane gillis
Also, again.
joe rogan
I did research.
I did scientific research.
You get off my back.
shane gillis
I know.
joe rogan
I was young and single, and we hadn't even met.
unidentified
I don't care.
joe rogan
You didn't tell me.
shane gillis
He jacked off dolphins.
joe rogan
We were engaged and you were jacking off dolphins for research.
shane gillis
Depends how long you're.
joe rogan
I get all really testy.
jamie vernon
St. Thomas.
joe rogan
Okay.
But the bummer thing is the dolphin doesn't want to be in that stupid little house.
The dolphin wants to be out there swimming.
shane gillis
After a while, he did.
joe rogan
After he got a few pandies.
Yeah, fucking.
shane gillis
Right?
joe rogan
That's the jackpot.
Right.
shane gillis
Put him in a house?
He's in a fucking house.
They're feeding him.
He's getting jacked off.
joe rogan
You want to hear a dark truth about dolphins?
Female dolphins are very promiscuous.
We should make sure this is true.
shane gillis
Are female dolphins sluts?
joe rogan
And I think they think the theory is because when they have babies, it takes a long time for them to raise their baby and they won't breed while they're taking care of their babies.
I think it's like several years.
And so the males will kill babies of a female they haven't slept with.
Yes.
So they can get them to fuck.
They'll kill the baby of a female that they haven't slept with.
So the females sleep with as many men as possible so that the dolphin doesn't know whether or not it's his kids.
shane gillis
That's cool.
joe rogan
It is.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's also like, yo, how ruthless is everybody?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, dolphins are supposed to be our peaceful spiritual cousins that live in the ocean.
And meanwhile, they regularly kill babies and they force their ladies into being hoes so that they don't think their baby's killed.
shane gillis
Whenever you look at animals, you got to think about what we do.
joe rogan
That's true.
Yeah, if male dolphins kill the babies of female dolphins they haven't had sex with.
shane gillis
You got to think about what we do, and then you think dolphins are dumber than us.
They're probably doing crazy shit.
joe rogan
I don't know if they are dumber than us.
That's what's weird.
They just can't.
shane gillis
They better be.
joe rogan
They can't affect their environment.
We assume that intelligence is only the ability to manipulate your environment.
That's what we assume.
Because we associate intelligence with all the stuff that we created.
But we don't even know what the fuck they're saying.
You know, we haven't been able to decipher their language.
They have very specific languages.
shane gillis
She was probably two or three jack-offs away from finding out.
She was right on the cusp, but they were like, you dumb whore, get out of here.
unidentified
She wasn't.
joe rogan
They needed more funding.
They just needed more funding.
Male dolphins sometimes kill calves sired by other males to bring the mother back into Estra sooner.
Yeah.
Allowing them to mate and pass on their genes a behavior called infanticide, observed in species like bottlenose and Pacific white-sided dolphins.
jamie vernon
This species makes them have like a high-speed race, it says, to find the best agile partner.
joe rogan
Jeez.
shane gillis
Most agile?
You got to win that shit.
I'd be a whole face.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
jamie vernon
They're received by several males in high-speed chases.
shane gillis
They hit him with the cone drill.
joe rogan
Yet females show selectivity for agile partners and can control fertilization via vaginal structure.
Oh, so a guy could nut in them and they'd be like, no, no, baby.
unidentified
Fuck you.
Bonobo Chases and Agile Partners 00:10:22
shane gillis
Oh, that's a nice thing.
unidentified
It's just a nut.
joe rogan
That's a nice thing.
Imagine that if they just come up with that instead of abortion, they just go, oh, we're just going to give you a dolphin pussy.
Just lock it down.
jamie vernon
Look at this next one.
joe rogan
This one, the guy nuts, and you lock it down.
Okay?
Make an agreement.
You sure you're going to lock it down?
You told me you want babies.
You swear to God?
No, no, no.
I'm locking it down for you.
shane gillis
You swear to God.
jamie vernon
The question: are female dolphins sluts?
unidentified
Right.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Females participate in same-sex genital rubber, masturbation, and pleasure-seeking via functional catorises rich in nerves, indicating sex serves social enjoyment roles beyond procreation.
Up to 75% of dolphins' sexual activity may prioritize pleasure or alliances over breeding.
Males often coerce via alliances, but females evade or reposition to exert choice.
So they scissor.
Female scissoring in the dolphin community.
shane gillis
I like it.
joe rogan
We broke that news here.
shane gillis
Bring that up.
There's a dusky dolphin, dude.
What's that one doing?
Just fucking boys in Penn State's locker room?
Oh, geez.
Come on.
No.
unidentified
I told you.
shane gillis
I had a couple.
unidentified
He's ready to roll.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
shane gillis
Old dusky dolphin.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So, like, when we think about peaceful creatures on Earth, we're the most.
We're number one.
We're the most peaceful.
shane gillis
There's no chance.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
As warlike as we are, as far as intelligence.
shane gillis
Okay, all right.
All right.
I'll give you.
Well, dude, there's got to be some peaceful.
joe rogan
Dolphins must be going to war with each other.
shane gillis
There's no way those high raxes aren't doing anything.
joe rogan
No, there's no way we're the most peaceful.
The most peaceful are those chimpanzees, the bonobos.
shane gillis
Or the bonobos.
joe rogan
All they do is fuck each other.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bonobos are wild.
They look a lot like chimps, just a little softer.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
And all they do is just get it on.
shane gillis
Who are those guys with those big noses?
joe rogan
Oh.
shane gillis
Those are funny guys.
joe rogan
Those are weird.
That's a weird look.
How about the ones where their asshole lights up when they want to fuck?
Their asshole becomes like a target.
shane gillis
You don't want to fuck up.
They do that.
joe rogan
Oh, bro.
shane gillis
They put a light up in there.
unidentified
They put light up with butt clubs.
shane gillis
No.
Those cowboys is eating drugs.
unidentified
They put butt pugs in the cow light of light up.
Really?
Oh, bro.
Pull that bucky back up.
joe rogan
Look at this guy's face.
How are y'all?
shane gillis
Hold on.
Can you get him making a noise?
They're very funny.
Yeah.
That's the physique I'm going for.
joe rogan
There was an old school comedian that had this big, crazy nose, and they would call him the schnauz.
Who the fuck am I thinking of?
Like old-timey movies.
They'd call him the schnauz.
unidentified
That's it.
joe rogan
Jimmy Duranty.
Yeah.
shane gillis
He does look like a probiscus.
joe rogan
A lot like one.
But his whole thing was like his nose was huge.
shane gillis
Yeah, you gotta be a little fucking schnaz.
joe rogan
That's a hell of a schnaz.
shane gillis
There's no other way to describe that.
joe rogan
Ari Shafir would make fun of his nose.
The schnauz.
Yeah.
Look, I mean, all of his photos, all the caricatures, his nose is preposterous.
shane gillis
He aged into it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Worked out of it.
shane gillis
You're a young man with that fucking nose.
unidentified
That's tough.
joe rogan
That's a tough time.
shane gillis
This is nice, bro.
Wait till you hear this fucker talk.
Nose like a man.
Nose like a man, yeah.
joe rogan
What?
shane gillis
I like those guys.
They have to be peaceful.
joe rogan
That's a weird face, man.
Imagine if they were tough.
shane gillis
That's what women look like now.
Yeah, for real.
unidentified
The nose job.
shane gillis
That's exactly what women look like.
joe rogan
It's a Michael Jackson thing.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bro, imagine if that was 10 feet tall and was trying to kill your baby.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
Whoa.
joe rogan
What did they do in a past life to come back as that?
They must have been really mean.
They must have been a really mean person.
shane gillis
What are you talking about, dude?
joe rogan
There must have been a really mean person in past life.
unidentified
Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah.
joe rogan
Yo.
Bro.
Jesus.
That's like a man.
That's like a really evil man from the past who's been reincarnated as this fucked up monkey.
Like he's kind of conscious that something's wrong.
unidentified
So why am I not in my mid evil manner?
shane gillis
You're at the Baltimore Zoo.
joe rogan
Just getting stared at by little kids.
shane gillis
This is good stuff.
joe rogan
What was that other one?
The Michael Jackson one?
shane gillis
I like that one.
joe rogan
The nose was one.
shane gillis
What was that tiny little fucking guy?
joe rogan
That tiny little guy was terrifying.
It was huge.
You know, it was real big and giant.
It would suck to get killed by a giant cute thing.
You know what I mean?
Like a giant fluffy.
You know, like some of the monkeys are really cute.
Like, if he was like six inches tall, he would be really cute.
Like, oh, my God, he's so cute.
If he was 10 feet tall, he would be fucking terrified.
unidentified
Terrifying.
shane gillis
Terrible snowman.
Look at that fucking thing.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
Bro, that thing is terrifying.
It's got like a bat nose.
Look at his fucking creepy ass nose.
That would rip your fucking face right off.
Just jump on your face.
You wouldn't be able to pull it off.
Your nose would be gone.
shane gillis
That rules.
joe rogan
Right.
But if it's 10 feet tall, it doesn't rule.
That thing's standing outside your village waiting for you to dog to go outside.
shane gillis
Shit.
joe rogan
That's a big man.
Why are they so fucking cute when they're little?
But if that thing was giant and had fangs, if it was 10 feet tall, but it wouldn't be.
It was big and scary.
It would have a scary face.
Like, why is that?
Why do the little ones?
What is cute?
Why do the little ones literally have a cute face that if you made that thing big, it wouldn't be as scary?
shane gillis
Maybe that's just our instinct to think babies are cute, so we don't throw them.
unidentified
Maybe, huh?
shane gillis
You see that guy, you go, he's great.
joe rogan
See what the dolphins do.
Maybe like it's like built into it.
shane gillis
There's a lot of stepdads listening to this right now getting dolphin impulses.
Fucking, I wish I could kill that little motherfucker.
joe rogan
It is weird, though, right?
Because all the big, scary things look scary.
shane gillis
Grizzlies are kind of cute.
joe rogan
No, they're not.
No.
I was telling you, those are the most things I've ever seen in the world.
The only thing I've ever seen in the wild.
shane gillis
Polar bears are kind of cute, fellas.
Bro, obviously, they're terrifying, but if he was fucking one feet tall, you'd go, that's an adorable guy.
joe rogan
That's a good point.
shane gillis
You know what I mean?
Until he was like tearing apart a small bigger than you.
Yeah.
Bro, what are you talking about?
Look at that guy.
joe rogan
That's a cub, first of all.
shane gillis
That's still good.
joe rogan
Look at these guys walking.
shane gillis
Show him walking.
J-Mo, get him walking.
joe rogan
It's pretty cute.
Now, show Kodiak brown bear eating a moose.
Put that in there.
Kodiak, brown bear, eating a moose.
Bro, there's one of them that got this moose off the side of the road and was dragging it uphill.
The moose is like 1,200 people.
shane gillis
Did you see the one during the wedding?
joe rogan
Which one is that?
Oh, yeah, there's a wedding.
shane gillis
There's a wedding, and then on the other side of the fucking river, there's just a grizzly tearing apart a moose.
joe rogan
Yeah, they got married in Alaska.
unidentified
Whoops.
shane gillis
Dude, how do you kill a moose?
joe rogan
Bro, they can kill anything.
They literally kill anything.
I mean, he's just riding his back, drowning him.
shane gillis
That reminds me.
joe rogan
Look at this.
He's just hanging onto his fucking back.
Look at this.
So cute.
That's a moose, man.
Moose are so big.
shane gillis
That video that guy in the moose comes up to him.
I said it in the group chat.
Or you did.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
It's the scariest fucking animal I've ever seen.
joe rogan
Oh, they're scary.
shane gillis
It's like a dinosaur.
It's fucking terrible.
joe rogan
They're so big, dude.
shane gillis
There's a guy hunting, and a moose just comes up to him and is like staring at him.
I don't know how to describe it.
joe rogan
Well, they're so huge.
shane gillis
No, this is not it, but still terrifying.
joe rogan
Not it, but still.
That's not even a really big one.
That moose, like the one that you see in the car, actually, that's a pretty big one.
His paddles are just going the wrong way.
Yeah, that's huge.
unidentified
Whoa.
shane gillis
Yeah, don't do that.
jamie vernon
Also, Borderline looks like AI, but it's probably not.
joe rogan
Well, a lot of them are right now.
That's a problem.
Almost everything is tricked left and right.
jamie vernon
There's like the giant cat walking up to save its baby.
unidentified
Like, come on.
joe rogan
Moose are not afraid of you, though.
That's one thing that's true.
But generally, they're very aggressive.
And depending upon what time of the year, they'll fuck your car up, man.
shane gillis
That's not it, J-Mo, but I still.
I don't want to see a moose get shot.
You love that.
I don't want to see those boys get shot.
joe rogan
Have you ever eaten moose meat?
shane gillis
No.
joe rogan
It's delicious.
shane gillis
It's really good.
joe rogan
It's the reason why bears try so hard to kill them.
shane gillis
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
Yeah, I get it.
joe rogan
So they're cute.
Up to a point.
shane gillis
Bears?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're cute.
Up until they're about two years old.
shane gillis
We were talking about earlier.
I don't like black bears' eyes.
Bears do have shitty eyes.
Bro, they're so close to being cute.
They got weird-looking eyes.
joe rogan
One of the weird things about like, yeah, this one.
shane gillis
Look at that fucking.
unidentified
Yeah, he's looking at him like, dude, I will fuck you up is what he's saying.
joe rogan
Look how big he is.
That's why they're scarier than every other deer, because they'll come fuck you up.
shane gillis
Just beat your ass.
They'll kill you on sight.
joe rogan
Stomp you to death.
Stomp you to death.
And this guy is being smart by staying between the trees.
This is very dangerous.
Like, if he was out in an open field, he'd be Fucksville right now.
If he couldn't get to cover to a bunch of trees, look at these guys getting out in a driveway.
Fucking their car up.
Moose Threats in Pennsylvania 00:06:43
unidentified
Bro.
shane gillis
Why do dogs just run straight into that?
Do you see dogs do that shit?
joe rogan
They're dumb.
Because we took them from wolves and turned them into little bitches.
shane gillis
Dude, I've seen it out.
I've seen deer just fuck dogs up.
There's a lot of those compilations.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
They start doing this.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
They get in their hills.
But a lot of dogs kill deer.
shane gillis
There's that classic of that guy putting, it's an old one, but he put deer piss all over him and then the dump comes and just beats this shit out.
He doesn't get a shot off.
He gets his ass beat.
unidentified
Turn the camera off.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
unidentified
What a moron.
joe rogan
That's like the number one hunting in America is white-tailed deer.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Number one.
shane gillis
Pennsylvania.
joe rogan
Yeah, by far.
shane gillis
That's where I'm from.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Iowa, Iowa and PA, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, my family lived in Harrisburg for a while.
My parents did.
shane gillis
I always forget that's insane.
joe rogan
I used to go to visit them.
shane gillis
You should have been a Harris.
joe rogan
I'm like, you got deer everywhere.
shane gillis
You could have been a Central PA, man.
You would have never done anything.
unidentified
Well, you didn't.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you talking about?
shane gillis
Shut up.
You would have been chilling.
joe rogan
I doubt it.
shane gillis
You would have been an Elks.
You would have been in the Elks Bar.
You would have met Phil.
joe rogan
I don't think I'm designed for that.
I would not be happy.
shane gillis
I'm a Blanks, dude.
joe rogan
I know.
shane gillis
If you were from Central PA, you'd be into college football.
joe rogan
You love it all.
shane gillis
It fucking rules.
joe rogan
I just have to assume that who I am now, I would always have been.
shane gillis
No, that's silly.
joe rogan
No, like the way I like things, the things I like.
shane gillis
No, you would have been, you would have been a Nordane fan, dude.
It could have been so sick.
It could have been so sick.
joe rogan
Well, I definitely could have been a fan, but I still would be doing this.
I think I'd be doing the same shit I'm doing.
I'd figure out a way to do something.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
As long as I didn't get saddled down at a young age.
shane gillis
You go to that Elks bar.
joe rogan
Get married at 18.
unidentified
Yep.
Fuck.
shane gillis
Drink and drive home.
Your babe's there.
She's pretty.
joe rogan
You got a great dad now at 18.
shane gillis
Yeah, but then that's when your fanhood of college football becomes greater.
You go, dude, I get three hours on Saturday.
I can't fucking wait.
Who do we have?
Ah, fuck.
Central Michigan.
unidentified
Fuck.
shane gillis
It's going to be a blowout.
Whatever.
I'm going to have beers.
That's good stuff.
Then you get to golf.
unidentified
You go, fuck, I suck at golf.
shane gillis
Who gives a shit?
I'm getting wasted.
unidentified
It's a good life.
shane gillis
I'm jealous of it.
joe rogan
It does sound like a good life.
unidentified
But it's also a difficult one.
For sure.
shane gillis
But that's the best life.
joe rogan
Is it?
shane gillis
Yeah, good, difficult.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's the point.
Why is good and difficult the best life?
unidentified
That's what makes going to that bar so fucking sick.
shane gillis
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Having a shitty job.
shane gillis
Shitty job.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
You sit down and you go, bro, let me tell you about how shitty my fucking job is.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
You go get fucking hammered.
Three beers in.
You go, my job fucking rules.
My life rules.
unidentified
You know what?
shane gillis
I'm going to go beat the fuck out of my wife.
See that Iraq video?
Those guys boxing.
You go, I'm going to make her put some headgear on when I get home.
Yeah.
No, it's good.
Obviously, you know, it's not like the best, but it's a good life.
Fucking drinking and golfing with your friends.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
It's funny to watch your friends age into that because my friends were never like that.
And now I'll go home and they're like, everyone got fat, which that's fun.
You see your boys, you go, yeah, it sucks, doesn't it?
Yeah.
And then they just love just hitting the local bar, getting a couple, going home.
Hopefully the kids are asleep.
It's fun.
It's fun to watch from a distance.
I can't.
Like, I'll go home for the holidays, and then my sister will bring her kids over.
I'm good for about 30 minutes.
joe rogan
Well, all the things you said, the fun parts about it is that it's not complicated.
You're just having a good time.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the idea is that if having a good time, you'll have a better time.
If the rest of your day sucks, you appreciate those guys more.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I get it.
I get it.
shane gillis
You could have been.
You could have been Central Pennsylvania.
joe rogan
I don't know.
shane gillis
Central Western PA.
You could have been a Steelers fan.
You could have been.
Oh, you could have been a contender.
Instead, you're just doing this bullshit.
Instead, you're fucking doing this crap.
joe rogan
I think I was always going to just mostly be interested in one-on-one sports.
shane gillis
Maybe.
joe rogan
For whatever reason.
I like team sports.
I love watching.
shane gillis
You could have been a running back.
We could have got you in the slot.
joe rogan
No.
My fucking high school wrestling coach tried to get me to play football.
And I was like, no.
We had this kid.
His name was Bobby Baker.
He was 300 pounds.
He was our heavyweight.
He was huge.
And I was like, me and him would be playing the same game.
So he would run over me.
That's crazy.
shane gillis
He couldn't catch you.
joe rogan
Whatever.
What if he did?
I'm not taking that chance.
shane gillis
Occasionally they catch you.
joe rogan
He was fucking huge.
I was like, I'm not taking that chance.
I was like, no, I've wrestled at 134 pounds.
I am not fucking playing football.
unidentified
Oh, you could have been a contender, Joe.
joe rogan
Yeah, I didn't like the idea.
shane gillis
Team sports are awesome.
joe rogan
I also didn't like the idea of random people being charging at you and colliding.
I'm like, no, One in one.
Somebody figure this out.
shane gillis
Football, somebody's hitting you when you're not looking.
joe rogan
Exactly.
unidentified
I don't like it.
joe rogan
A lot.
shane gillis
You're chasing someone this way and someone just.
Yeah, but then you get them.
The best feeling in the world is when someone's not looking and you get to fucking level them.
It's so sick.
Oh, it was my favorite.
I bet.
Thankfully, I played off slipping.
Offense, I got a lot of those.
But every once in a while, we'd throw an interception.
I had no idea how to pursue a corner just running.
I'd be I don't know where to look.
I'm getting, I got laid out.
It's fun.
Team sports, bro.
joe rogan
I get it.
shane gillis
The camaraderie.
You like fucking hunting with those guys.
That's a team sport.
joe rogan
Not really.
You're all going out on your own.
Or you're going out two at a time.
shane gillis
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like Cam and I went together.
But it's you will like the thing about team sports that's awesome is the camaraderie, right?
That's what's awesome.
But we used to always drive me nuts when I was playing baseball.
I played baseball as a kid.