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Joe Rogan Experience #2409 - Brian Redban
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joe rogan
Hey, good to see you.
unidentified
Good to see you.
joe rogan
Did you see that new information about China came out with a new quantum computer that can do an equation in four minutes?
It takes all the world's supercomputers 2.6 billion years to solve.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
And it can do it in four minutes.
brian redban
Is that real, though?
joe rogan
I mean, allegedly.
Allegedly, that's the problem with this whole quantum thing.
I don't understand.
I've had it explained to me four or five times.
I don't understand it.
brian redban
Yeah.
It's just my monkey brain is like, they also say a lot of things, you know?
Right.
Like, so who knows if it's real or not?
joe rogan
Well, you mean China or China.
But they have American ones that have done them too.
They've done some crazy, like Mark Andreessen explained one of them.
It's so nuts.
He said that it solved a computer that if you took, it solved an equation, if you took all of the world's atoms and converted it into a supercomputer, all of the universe's atoms, excuse me, and converted it into a supercomputer, it would take so much time to solve this equation that the universe would die of heat death and this quantum computer solved it in a matter of minutes.
Wow.
I don't know what it means, though.
I think what they're trying to say is that this somehow or another is proof of the multiverse because all of these computers are somehow or another like this quantum, the idea is this quantum computer is computing along with other quantum computers in other dimensions, other universes, other something, other realms.
And there's an infinite number of there's so many of them that that's the only thing that can account for this thing being able to do this so quickly.
brian redban
I don't even know.
joe rogan
Right?
So you're like, okay, what are you saying?
Like, what are you saying?
What are you doing?
What does this mean?
brian redban
Yes, ChatGPT.
joe rogan
How many people know this?
This is what's weird, right?
Let's assume that they're telling the truth.
And let's assume that they figured out a computer that can, it's got godlike powers, right?
unidentified
How many fucking people know how this works?
joe rogan
Like, what is the number?
Like, if all those people got assassinated and those machines were just sitting there, just like off, how long would it be before somebody came along that could figure out how to start that up again?
Do you know what I'm saying?
Like, are we dealing with like, so this is, it might be the most monumental technological breakthrough in the history of the human race, right?
If something has to be, right?
And then you think of what it can do once it does that.
And how many people know how to make that?
brian redban
One schizophrenic.
He's been trying to tell us the whole time.
joe rogan
Is it like one dude?
This is like one dude that they just feed and take care of and guard him everywhere he goes.
Like, he's the guy.
He figured this fucking thing out.
No one knows how this magic works.
I mean, if you had a guess, like how many quantum computer scientists that could successfully recreate a quantum computer, given enough resources?
brian redban
30, maybe.
joe rogan
30, maybe on the planet.
Maybe.
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
Maybe.
joe rogan
And what?
30 out of 8 billion?
30 out of 8 billion.
I don't even know if we're right, but let's assume we're right.
Let's say 100.
Let's get crazy.
Let's say 100.
What are those 100 people?
What if some fucking Mongolian assassin just gets hired?
Just take out all of them and they all start dropping like flies.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's weird when there's technology that's at a level where you got to go, like, how many people know how to do that?
Like, you were just showing me your phone.
Like, show me that phone again.
This is so sexy.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is the new Samsung fold.
And I swear to God, when you're holding it in your hand, it feels like a regular phone.
And then how thin it is.
It's a fucking iPhone.
It's so thin.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you compare it to my iPhone, it doesn't feel any different.
It feels smaller.
brian redban
It actually feels like smaller.
joe rogan
It's smaller than my iPhone.
And then you could use it like a regular phone.
And it's a good size regular phone, like kind of the perfect size for texting where your thumb goes across easy, like easy one-hand hold.
But then decadence.
unidentified
Right.
brian redban
Now you have a little iPad with you.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Now you're answering emails.
You're watching YouTube videos.
brian redban
Supposedly, that's what Apple's doing next: they're bringing out a foldable next year.
joe rogan
They always do that, though, right?
They wait until everybody gets it right.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Like Samsung finally got it right.
Because if they came out with some clunky bullshit, like do you remember the Newton?
brian redban
Yeah.
I mean, but it was ahead of its time, though, right?
joe rogan
It was so ahead of its time.
unidentified
But who trusted their information in that thing?
joe rogan
Like, all your data?
Like, that thing's going to crash.
That thing's barely glued together.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I remember when I first came out to California in 1994, there was a guy who was a head of one of these big studios, like very impressive character.
Kind of guy wears like those tie clasps and those cufflinks.
He was a tie clasp, cufflink guy, like very wealthy guy.
And he had one of those Newton stupid things and he was carrying it around.
And I was looking, I was like, what is the benefit of that?
Like, you have an address book?
I have an address book.
Like, you write it down, you just turn it to the page.
Like, you just turn to the page on this thing that's as big as a house.
Like, this thing is so big.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like a loaf of bread you're carrying around everywhere.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
And then that's what kind of made the trio, right?
Remember the trio and all that stuff?
That was like a baby version of it.
joe rogan
Bro, I remember I thought I was a wizard when I had a palm.
I was like, look at me.
I've got a keyboard and a screen, motherfucker.
I'm in the future.
brian redban
Those are awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I remember I resisted the BlackBerry for a while because the people that I work with on Fear Factor all had the BlackBerries and they were always on their BlackBerry.
I was like, that thing is like stealing your time.
Like, well, you got to answer emails.
Like, that's the new thing.
Like, you got to be able to answer emails on the fly.
That was a totally new thing.
brian redban
And you had small, tiny buttons you had to get used to.
joe rogan
But you could actually send an email.
So if you were on a BlackBerry, like, you were kind of fucking serious.
You were getting things done.
You were getting things done.
But I noticed early on, and obviously I fell victim to it myself because we're all scrolling.
We're all doom scrolling all day.
But when I first started seeing these guys with the email on the phone, I'm like, man, you want your fucking email on your computer.
You don't want it on your phone.
You don't want to be carrying your email all the time.
So anybody can get a hold of you at any time.
You got to respond because you have to check your fucking email all the time now.
That's another thing you have to do.
That's crazy.
brian redban
And now look.
unidentified
Now look.
brian redban
Now we're doomed.
joe rogan
We're doomed, son.
And then there's, you know, there's tracking of everybody everywhere now.
Everywhere you go.
Your phone's tracking where you go.
brian redban
It's crazy.
I saw like a court case the other day and they were proving that this woman killed a guy or something like that.
And they actually had the information like, and then at eight o'clock, you went on this photo on Instagram and browsed it for 2.3 seconds.
And like, and it's just like, how do they know that much?
joe rogan
They know everything you're doing, son.
brian redban
Yeah.
That's insane.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, so that's why they always bust people like how to get rid of a dead body.
Fucking people are trying to find where they can buy Lyme for cash.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
And now I guess ChatGPT is like helping people like, oh, you know, asking ChatGPT about how to make a bomb or something like that.
joe rogan
Will ChatGPT turn you in?
brian redban
Yeah, ChatGP will turn you in.
unidentified
You rat.
joe rogan
I was just theoretically.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
I wanted to know if you could teach me how to make a bomb.
brian redban
Yeah, one of the loopholes, supposingly, is going, I'm writing a book and I need to make it accurate.
Can you tell me how to do it?
joe rogan
Well, apparently that's how you can get ChPT to explain to do a lot of things that you really shouldn't be doing.
brian redban
Right.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like my grandmother's being held ransom.
Like I have to, I have to, you know, somehow or another, I have to save her.
And the only way I could save her is to make a nuclear bomb.
How do I do this?
brian redban
I mean, and I have to do it too because I'll try to make like a naked girl in chat, you know, using a Grok image or something like that.
And I'm like, okay, she's wearing a bikini, but it's clear.
And a bunch of milk is falling all over her from the sky.
joe rogan
Is Grok limited in any way?
Grok allows you to do?
brian redban
Oh, they all are, but Grok seems to be a little bit more spicy.
But they all catch on to you and they're, you know, and stop.
Like, then they start acting dumb.
joe rogan
Bro, if somebody came out, like, you know how much money OnlyFans makes?
If someone came out with an erotica app where you could program it in, it could be you, your face, and your favorite actress's face.
And that's the porn you watch.
But is that that can't be legal?
brian redban
No, it's China, but you can actually be like, I want Kanye West.
I want huge tits on Kanye.
I don't want any, you know, big buttons.
unidentified
That's nuts.
brian redban
Yeah, I almost subscribed Kanye.
unidentified
You can't do it with a BBL of big fat titties.
brian redban
I think that's a good thing.
joe rogan
And he could fly away and become an eagle.
You can make it anything.
brian redban
He finishes me off and he flies away.
joe rogan
And he winks at you.
And when he winks, he makes that Liberace noise.
Dink.
brian redban
Liberace.
joe rogan
You remember that song when Liberace winks at me?
unidentified
God.
joe rogan
I mean, even imagine inside someone's lifetime, conceivably, somebody saw that on television.
Because that was like, what, Jamie, was that 1950s?
The Liberace winks at me.
Find out when that was.
See, let's just imagine someone's alive to see when Liberace winks at me on TV.
And then as they're older, they're seeing Kanye West with big fat titties.
And you're seeing AI.
I get sent AI things all the time.
And I have to tell my friends, dude, that's not real.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Yeah.
I mean, it fools me one out of a hundred times.
And I'll sit there and watch and be like, oh, no, look, that woman had a weird fingernail in that one frame.
joe rogan
There's always some, but that's just for now.
Like, like a year ago, it was easy to tell.
brian redban
Right.
Yeah.
Well, it is pretty hard.
Like, there's, I follow a couple of these fake girls on Instagram, you know, that are not real.
And they have like 2 million followers.
And I'm like, so many.
joe rogan
There's so many of them.
Men are so simple.
Show us big titties with a pretty face.
And you have our attention.
And then you could fucking sell us hammers or whatever.
brian redban
Whatever you try to do.
joe rogan
Steal our data.
DM us.
brian redban
Yeah, that's pretty nice, though.
joe rogan
Bro, how many fake DMs do you get or text messages do you get a day?
brian redban
Oh, that's about three or four a day saying like, hey, Brian, you know, you selling your house?
And I'm like, what?
I'm not selling my house.
What are you talking?
joe rogan
Mine aren't even to me.
They're to a dude named Raymond.
Raymond owned my phone number before me, and Raymond was a moron.
Raymond signed up for everything.
This fucking dude gets text messages all day long.
brian redban
I have that same thing.
And I think it's on purpose.
So you write back, hey, man, wrong number.
Then they know it's a real, like it's a.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's the same guy's name.
brian redban
I know, me too.
unidentified
I have that too.
brian redban
I have that too.
joe rogan
I think it's someone signed up for something, and then someone sold the data.
So like you use yourself.
What happens is a lot of these sleazy motherfuckers.
Here's the thing.
We never thought that data was a commodity.
Whoever thought when you would sign up and give someone your email address that that would be valuable, like a commodity, and find out what you're interested in, what stuff you buy online, what websites you visit.
That's a commodity?
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
That's the problem.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
The problem is, they can make money.
And so all someone has to do is get an email list, like say, you know, something you're selling or whatever, sign up, receive our newsletter.
Okay.
And then they have this big ass database and then just sell it to anybody.
These fucking scumbags, it's all of a sudden you're getting text messages from Nigeria.
You know, you won money in a lottery and you just have to fill out a form.
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Oh, really?
brian redban
They've been doing that for a while, though, right?
Remember, like, you would go to the mall and there'd be a like, car, enter to win this car, you know, and you'd fill out all this information.
joe rogan
Like, how are they just that was mailing lists?
You would get stuff sent to you in the mail, mail, fucking goo.
People don't realize you just get spammy ads in the mail.
Like, you'd get your mail and like half of it would be bullshit.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Remember those days?
brian redban
Yeah, I mean, that's still kind of this, still kind of the way.
joe rogan
Yeah, but does anybody read those stupid things when you get those things in the mail?
Those spammy ads?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
But I guess enough do.
brian redban
Why don't they make that illegal?
joe rogan
I don't know.
brian redban
There's so many things like that.
Why, why?
I think right now every house should have solar.
Like that has to be the roof from now on.
You know, any brand new house has to have solar.
Why not?
joe rogan
It would certainly be a lot easier on the grid.
brian redban
Yeah.
And we know the grid's just going to get worse and worse with all these crazy computers.
joe rogan
100%.
The grids can't sustain AI.
Like if AI becomes much bigger than it is, which is what everybody anticipates, it's demands for power crazy.
This grid will crush.
Like, remember when it was one of the most California things ever?
They passed a law saying that all new cars had to be electric by like 2035 or something like that.
And then a couple weeks later, they said, please don't charge your electric car because the grid can't handle it.
brian redban
What the fuck?
joe rogan
It's so California.
We're going to save you by destroying civilization.
We're going to save you.
We're going to save you.
You're going to have to get an electric car, only electric, so we all feel good about ourselves.
And then in the process, you cook the grid.
The grid has.
They used to do brownouts all the time just for air conditionings.
Remember those?
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
Like you had a part of the, like you're from 12 to 2 and 2 to 4, based on where you live.
joe rogan
It was just enough so it didn't ruin all the food in your freezer.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, like they were like, keep your freezer shut, keep your fridge shut.
You should be okay.
But they had to do it because they didn't have enough juice for the whole city.
brian redban
Yeah.
I mean, it happens a lot almost here, almost here.
Like I watch our grid all the time.
Like, oh, you know, it's so close to failing here.
joe rogan
Did you watch the grid?
Is there an app?
brian redban
No, they have it on the news when this happens and stuff.
joe rogan
Well, it definitely happened during that big freeze that first year we moved here.
Ooh, that got sketchy.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That got weird because there were people that didn't have any heat for like a week.
And people like, oh, you're in Texas.
unidentified
Shut up.
joe rogan
No, it was 20 degrees.
brian redban
It was 20 degrees in your house.
joe rogan
I remember being some people died because they tried to light things on fire in their house and they died from smoke inhalation.
brian redban
Or putting their generators in their garage.
Do you have backup or battery backup yet?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Yeah, yeah.
It's great.
joe rogan
I love it.
Yeah.
The thing about solar is solar relies on batteries and then the batteries degrade and you have to get more batteries.
And then the real dilemma, the moral dilemma is the way they get batteries.
Yeah.
That's when nobody, all these green motherfuckers don't want to talk about Saddarth Kara's book, that book on how they get cobalt out of the Congo.
And when he came in here, he showed us all these different videos that he had taken off his cell phone of these people pulling these minerals out of the ground to make batteries.
And you're like, oh my God.
Like, this is crazy.
This is, it's one of the weirdest things ever that the most advanced thing that we all possess, a cell phone, is made in the most barbaric way possible.
Like, the original source minerals are being hammered out of the ground by people who live in dirt floors.
They have no money.
They have babies on their back.
It's insane.
It's literally insane that that's the source.
Human beings are doing that.
These aren't robots.
They're human beings operating these conditions so that people can check TikTok.
brian redban
There's no way to recycle it at all.
joe rogan
I don't know.
brian redban
That's an Elon coin.
You put down the Elon list.
joe rogan
It should be.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It should be a law.
It should be like, is there anything left in your battery?
Is there anything?
The stuff is really valuable.
Slaves are pulling it out of the ground.
Like, that's literally what's happening.
And it's a lot of it is run by other countries, too, man.
And they're running these operations out of the Congo, and you're like, whoosh.
And then we're like, ew, I, I'm Greg.
I work at the Apple store.
Can I help you?
Like, Greg.
If you follow Greg down the line, the fucking minerals in your battery is so evil.
It's really evil, man.
I mean, that's why they call them conflict minerals, right?
brian redban
Right.
Is any of the new, well, I guess you wouldn't know.
Like, any of the, because there's all these different battery techs.
Like, I know there's a new one.
They're better.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's definitely a more energy-dense one that like who's using it now?
It's not OnePlus.
It's one of those other Chinese opio-one of those big Chinese companies that makes killer cell phones that we never get.
brian redban
Yeah, it's banned here.
joe rogan
It's got, yeah, it's got a 7,200 milliamp battery.
So an iPhone has a 5200 or something like that.
So this is like significantly larger than the iPhone battery.
What's crazy, though, is the screen is brighter.
It's got like more nits.
And if you have them both on full screen brightness and watch a video, like watch like prolonged video forever, the iPhone only dies like 35 minutes before this one does.
Like they both go like 19 hours, but this one's like 19 hours and 35 minutes.
Like, okay.
Well, you got a big ass battery.
And why does it only go 35 more minutes for like 40% more battery?
That seems stupid.
Because they're not as optimized.
That's the thing that Apple has over everybody.
They only have one operating system and they make the devices.
The end.
And so like it's everybody else is you're supporting a Samsung phone and those how about those weirdos with Sony phones?
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brian redban
That's still a thing.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
But the cameras are really good on it.
joe rogan
Bro, Sony phone is the unheralded hero of the cell phone world because they'll still make a phone with a jack where you can put a real audio jack in and listen to like real music.
brian redban
Instead of a dongle and all that crap.
joe rogan
Well, you could also charge it at the same time instead of this stupid USB-C thing.
Because if you have to listen to something, if something's really important, your phone's running out of battery, you have to make a choice.
Either wear Bluetooth and cook your brain or you have to charge or listen or you have to put it on speakerphone or something.
But with the Sony phones, they still have the old school headphone jack.
brian redban
I like the old school one.
I hate dongles so much on these phones.
It just sucks that they're banned.
Like so many of these cell phones with all these technologies, you know, because it's from China is banned.
Like DJI, one of the biggest, coolest companies that makes some of the best drones ever, you know, they just got banned.
And now we have to have like the second best, which is just like crap.
Like we went, we went backwards 10 years in drone technology.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And China's way ahead on drones, right?
brian redban
Way, I mean, way ahead.
And they're like $600 and they're this big and they're super light.
And what sucks is that the U.S. said, okay, you know, if you DJ is like, we have nothing to do with the government.
Please.
unidentified
I don't know if you heard, but we're going to make a million drones.
joe rogan
We have so many drones.
brian redban
They have one month, though, for the U. There's like five different departments in the U.S. government to research the company DJI and say, yes, they are with China government or not.
And none of the government or none of these five departments have done anything since.
And they have like three weeks left until they're 100% banned forever.
joe rogan
It's probably a trade tactic, if I had a guess.
Yeah, I think a lot of what Trump does is trade tactics.
Like he threatens.
Right.
He threatened Xi Jinping that he's going to start testing nuclear bombs again.
That's what he said.
Like they're testing nuclear bombs.
So he's like, if they're testing bombs, we're going to test bombs.
We don't want to test bombs.
He's said he was going to test bombs.
And all of a sudden they're having like really fruitful conversations.
They sit down and talk it out.
I think the craziness of him helps in that way.
Because once he sits down and talks to people, you know, he's pretty good at making deals.
You could hate the guy.
You could be like, fuck him.
He's hit.
Okay, okay, yeah.
But look, he's already negotiated peace settlements with many African countries that have been at war for decades.
These people have been in conflict forever.
There's quite a few different international conflicts that he's somehow or another brokered peace deals for.
And nobody wants to look at that.
He's not profiting from making sure these people don't kill each other.
Legitimately, there's some part of him that you have to admit doesn't want people to die.
And if he could prevent that, he's going to try to do that.
Also, the crypto coin, sketchy as fuck.
You know what I mean?
Like, You got to be able to say all of it, right?
It's all, there's a whole lot.
It's like all human beings.
He's got a lot of things going on.
He's just got more because he's the fucking president.
But some of those tactics of talking shit, and it kind of seems to work a little.
Admit it or not, do you think it's unpresidential or not?
You're probably correct.
Some of it seems to work.
It's not working with Russia at all.
The Russia-Ukraine thing, like, remember he said he was going to be able to fix that in 24 hours?
And Putin was like, okay, I'm going to fuck with you.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, Putin is on a totally different level.
He's a legit dictator.
I mean, he's been running Russia for a long fucking time.
And he's got that place locked down so tight that even if he really did allow for open elections, he would still win all the time.
And why would he allow for open elections?
I know what's best for you.
brian redban
That's crazy that that still happens.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
In most countries, bro.
That's what's crazy.
This is the only country legitimately where it's up for grabs.
Like, that's how a guy like Trump can get in there.
I mean, it's a crazy, evil battle.
And now people are being prosecuted because of a lot of the things that they tried to do while he was in office the first time.
I mean, there's so many cases going on right now that seem to be legitimate.
Like, they legitimately—you see the BBC thing?
The BBC thing is crazy.
The head of BBC had to resign because they took a film of Trump from January 6th, the speech that he gave, and they edited it.
So something that he said 52 minutes later, they put right after he said something to make it look like he was trying to get people to go attack people and fight at the Capitol.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
And it's not.
brian redban
He does that to you all the time.
joe rogan
But this one's nuts.
Not only is this one nuts, but this one is for a literal president of the greatest country the world's ever known.
He's the president, and you're lying about what he said publicly, which is on the internet, which anybody can see.
Like, it is the clearest indication of how that woke shit was rotting people's brains.
And is still.
Is still, but just less.
You know what I mean?
It was on the march then, and they all felt like they had to go along with it.
And so, and by any means necessary, we must make sure that, you know, so they decided to paint a different version of what he said.
And they're fucked now.
They're fucked now.
brian redban
BBC.
joe rogan
60 Minutes did it with the Kamala Harris interview, but they did it the other way.
They made it look like she had a good answer, which is like, it's so crazy.
Like, you guys are supposed to be the news.
You're not supposed to be the propaganda arm of whatever party you support.
This is nuts.
This is fucking nuts.
And BBC is always like the one you quote when you want to seem smart.
I was watching this thing in the BBC.
Oh, dude.
You watch the BBC?
You must be fucking smart.
brian redban
And PBS.
I mean, that used to be what I considered like school.
Like, that's like, you know, the best.
unidentified
Exactly.
brian redban
The good guys, I guess.
joe rogan
Did you see that PBS lady?
She's like, sometimes truth gets in the way of good.
We're like, what?
No, it doesn't.
unidentified
Truth doesn't get in the way, you fucking crazy asshole.
joe rogan
And then they had an interview with her, and they were like, like asking her questions.
It's like such non-answers.
Like, what did you mean by this?
Do you guys lean in one way or another, ideologically or politically?
And it's like this circular non-answer dance where you don't, you're never a real person.
You're not saying, you know, like, thank you, Mr. Senator, for that question.
You know, like, you're not real.
You're just trying to get through this session without revealing anything that's going to force you to be sued.
And that's in charge of the narrative that we get on TV and a respected narrative.
PBS, very respected.
BBC, very respected.
Like from because of the past.
And it just got infected by zombies.
They just made their way through that gates.
And they took over the staff.
unidentified
Ah, what's next?
joe rogan
There's a rejection of that, but the scary part is what we usually do is we do something like that and then we over-correct, right?
And then we go like white nationalists.
Fucking, we're all Christian.
Get rid of the Muslims.
You know what I mean?
Like it gets scary when there's like hardcore ideological conflict because people push back.
Oh, you want to know what a bitch is?
I'll show you a fucking bitch, right?
You know, that's what happens.
You kind of call me a bitch.
Okay, motherfucker.
It's on.
You know, and then that's what people are doing on the left and the right.
And the ultimate expression of that is obviously Charlie Kirk.
Charlie Kirk gets shot and people are celebrating.
Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You want people to die that you disagree with?
Like, where are we right now on the scale of one to two civil war?
Where are we?
Are we at seven?
Because I thought we were at five.
I thought there were like four, four or five.
But after Charlie Kirk thing, I'm like, oh, we might be like seven.
This might be like step seven on the way to a bona fide civil war.
As soon as you start celebrating, like regular people celebrating somebody getting murdered in front of their wife and kid on television, in front of the whole world, as soon as you celebrate that, like, man, you're in dark territory.
You're in dark territory.
And if the worst thing you could say about that guy is that he said some things I disagree with, and you're celebrating that he got shot in the neck in front of the world.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
And you work at an insurance company?
This is nuts.
And you thought it was okay to say that on Instagram?
This is nuts.
This is nuts.
Like, what are you guys on?
Like, what's happening here?
brian redban
Estrogen pills.
joe rogan
I think it's Adderall.
brian redban
Adderall.
joe rogan
I think there's a lot of folks out there, high-productivity folks that are on amphetamines.
You're an amphetamine person, you know, which is why they're so mean.
Like amphetamine people are mean.
unidentified
Weed people like, oh.
joe rogan
We people are like, well, you know, man, like, she's in a bubble.
And like, the people she's around, they all think it's the right thing to do.
That you, you know, you, you have the platform and you know what's right.
Like, you don't know what's right.
I don't know what's right.
Nobody knows what's right.
The only way you find out what's right is you got to talk to people and you all you listen to like their logical arguments about something.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, you got a good point.
I never thought about it that way.
But if you can't do that, then you never figure it out.
And if instead of doing that, you decide the other people can't talk or you make up some facts or you edit some video together to make it look like somebody said something they totally didn't say.
unidentified
Have you seen it?
joe rogan
You seen what they edited?
Jamie, do you can you find it real quick?
An example of it so we could see it because it's so nuts.
Like, how did you think you were going to get away with this?
But this is what they've fucking done so many times.
They did that with that very fine people hoax where they tried to pretend that he was saying that some of the neo-Nazis are very fine people.
That's not what he said.
Yeah.
They cut edited the fucking shit out of that.
And then Obama was saying that during the campaign for Kamala Harris.
unidentified
And he called white nationalists, very fine people.
joe rogan
He's saying that on the campaign trail.
Like, that's crazy.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
So, here, play this out.
unidentified
Down to the Capitol, and I'll be there with you.
And we fight.
joe rogan
We fight like hell.
unidentified
And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.
joe rogan
That's the BBC.
To the Capitol.
This is what he actually said.
unidentified
And we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women.
joe rogan
54 minutes.
unidentified
We fight like hell.
And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.
brian redban
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Crazy.
Crazy.
He was literally saying the opposite.
He was calling these senators and congresspeople going to cheer on these brave senators and congresspeople.
brian redban
That's crazy.
On PBS, that's nuts.
joe rogan
Bro.
And by the way, he's pleading sarcastic.
He doesn't want to cheer on the brave senators.
He wants to scare them with a mob of people.
Let's be real about both things.
Let's be real about bold things.
But he's also saying they stole the fucking election.
And I feel like if you say that, you've got to have some like really good evidence that you could give out.
Like if you said to me, if I ran for president and I told you, dude, they stole the election.
And you're like, how?
I would have an answer.
I'd have an answer.
No one has an answer.
There's no documentary that's really good.
Like no one's put together a rock-solid, peer-reviewed, paper-supported documentary.
This is exactly what happened.
This is how they stole the election.
We know that you can do this.
We know they did this.
We know that these things got dropped off.
We know it didn't make any sense.
We know there's dead people voted.
We know there were ballots that were mail-in ballots that were brought in in shipments and all of them were for Biden.
And there were thousands of thousands of them and they swung vote.
Okay, if you have that, then you got to make a fucking documentary, a really good one, and put it out there so everybody could understand it.
Because it's crazy that this is four years later and people are still saying that.
Or you don't want to fix it because you monkey with the elections too.
You know?
And here, is there evidence of that?
Well, I do know that a Republican company, who bought Dominion?
Who bought the Dominion voting thing?
I believe this, a GOP supporter, bought the voting machines.
brian redban
Oh, really?
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it's one of two things that's going on.
Dominion voting system sold to company run by former Republican election official.
unidentified
What?
Yeah.
brian redban
This world saw.
This is where it gets sucked.
joe rogan
I had Rep Luna on the podcast, and one of the things that she said that was really shocking, she said, sometimes they don't want to fix things because they can campaign against them.
I was like, what?
No.
They fundraise against them.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
I was like, no.
And then I was like, of course.
They don't want to fix it.
They want it so that it's us versus them.
And you're going to lose your right to whatever it is.
Whatever it is.
It's just a big old hustle, dude.
brian redban
It's insane.
joe rogan
It's a big old hustle.
Because one of the things that's going on, one of two things is going on.
Either you don't have any evidence that they stole the election.
Oh, you have evidence and you're not telling me.
Why would you not tell me?
Why would you not tell me?
I'll tell everybody.
You have evidence?
Like, or you're like, oh, is that how they did it?
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Let's spread some money around.
Let's make it happen our way.
Let's copy.
Well, just like Xiaomi, when they make the iPhone that looks exactly like air phone, they even call it the Pro Max 17.
brian redban
It's badass.
It has the screen on the back.
joe rogan
It has a screen on the front and the back.
Yeah, that was the one.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was the one.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the one that has a new kind of battery.
It's a different composition, right?
brian redban
Right.
Yeah.
And yeah, that's, I think, what is that called?
joe rogan
Jamie, see if you can find that out.
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joe rogan
It's some God.
I don't want to fuck it up.
But that was one of the big criticisms of the newest Samsung phone, the 26 Ultra.
The speculation is that they haven't switched to that type of battery production yet.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Samsung is getting criticized because they're not keeping up with the Chinese phones.
Like they got a bunch of loyal Samsung people, but they're not keeping up with the highest end Chinese phones.
Other than that, that's a step up.
But there's some things that the higher-end Chinese phones are doing.
That's like, ooh.
brian redban
Yeah, they've been pretty safe lately, Samsung has with their phones.
They kind of doing what Apple's doing.
You know, just every, just a little thing different every single year.
I mean, I just saw a phone.
I think it's, was it the Razor phone?
No.
But it has like liquid cooling in it.
So the back is all just like water bubbles going around and stuff.
Like it's so badass looking.
joe rogan
Who makes that?
brian redban
Jamie, you know what I'm talking about?
It's a liquid cooling phone.
Is it Razor?
No, like liquid cooling phone.
Somebody just showed it.
Oh, Jerry Riggs Everything just had it and he tore it apart and everything like that.
It's badass.
joe rogan
I like that guy's show, but it also makes me sad.
brian redban
Here it is.
Unbox Therapy.
Red Magic?
Red Magic.
joe rogan
Oh, didn't you have a red phone, Jamie?
It's not?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Oh, fucking thieves.
brian redban
Look at that.
See those white dots?
That's actually water bubbles.
unidentified
Ooh.
brian redban
And when it gets hot, it just starts spinning.
joe rogan
So that's a gaming phone?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
How much do I want water bubbles?
I do want water bubbles, but I don't want them enough to switch to hand.
It's a problem.
brian redban
Yeah, that phone looks awesome.
joe rogan
That's pretty dope.
That's a problem, though.
The gaming on the phone, dude, man.
I can't fuck with that.
brian redban
I can't either.
joe rogan
It's right there.
brian redban
I care.
joe rogan
It's too accessible.
I don't want to get addicted to some stupid game on my phone.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I know some people who love it.
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
They love it.
brian redban
William Montgomery.
He sits there and plays like three hours of just a prick game.
joe rogan
William Montgomery.
That video you sent me of him mommy at that Austin Comedy Festival.
That shit is so funny.
brian redban
There's so many videos now of it.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
That's so funny.
Here's the thing about William.
William, to me, is the ultimate.
Once you see him, you love him and you want to see him more comic, the ultimate.
But the first time you see him, you're like, what the fuck is this?
brian redban
Yeah, like Brody Stevens.
When you first see Brody, you're like, what the fuck is he yelling at?
joe rogan
Exactly.
He's really the most similar guy to Brody that I know.
And they're both weirdos.
William's such a weirdo.
But he's a great guy, just like Brody was.
But he's, if you see him, though, like the Black Keys, those guys fucking love him.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And when they came into the studio, they wanted to come to the club.
They go, is William Montgomery coming?
I go, I'll make sure he's there.
I call up William.
I'm like, William?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Pat and Dan, they fucking love him, man.
He's got so many fans because he's so unique.
He's so unique.
But you got to know what you're getting into with him.
brian redban
Right.
And don't have him open up for you if you're, what's that, Morgan Jay?
Who is he opening up for?
He's like, who's that guy?
That guy's so is that a girl or a guy?
I have no idea.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I just saw the clip you showed me.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I didn't see anything else.
brian redban
I think it's that guy that goes into the audience with a like an auto-tune microphone, you know, that's really popular for some reason.
Like he's.
joe rogan
See, I'm so old.
brian redban
Me too.
I don't know.
joe rogan
I'm so old.
I'm out of the loop.
I don't know what these kids like.
brian redban
Yeah, Morgan Jay.
Who's Morgan Jay?
joe rogan
I find out about artists, and when I find out about them, they have 20 million Instagram followers.
I'm like, okay.
brian redban
That's who, like, yeah, that's who it is.
Morgan Jay.
And he has 5.2 million followers.
And his whole thing is like he just goes into the audience with a, he's not really a comedian.
Like, he's more of a performer.
He just goes into the audience and like and talks to people.
Like he does crowd work.
That's pretty much.
And he's like one of the biggest stars right now.
Like, it's crazy.
joe rogan
Well, people like crowd work.
That's why they like Matt Reif.
Like, he does, yeah, it does a lot of crowd work.
brian redban
He's sexy.
joe rogan
He's sexy too.
unidentified
Both things.
joe rogan
Bold things, but it's also the crowd work.
If he was just sexy, wasn't good at crowd work, he wouldn't have the audience he does.
Matt's funny.
He's really quick.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, that's like a certain style of performing.
You know, he's real calm on stage and he finds the thing to say.
And people love that because you're doing it off the top of your head and it's wild for them.
They're like, oh, my God.
But, you know, it's just a different thing.
It's a different thing than like regular stand-up.
You know, it's kind of like what?
brian redban
Like, kind of like Chappelle is.
Like, he's like a totally different, like, he'll sit there and just smoke a cigarette on the stool, like, talking, like, like, chill and stuff like that.
Yeah.
You know, that's like a different style of stand-up comedy.
He's relaxing.
joe rogan
Well, Dave is also like, Dave comes up with material by ranting.
You know, so he records his, all these sort of shows where he's just working on material and then he goes over and finds out what he said that made sense, what he said that was funny.
You know, he just lets it kind of flow.
You know, it's a very interesting way of doing it.
Obviously, it works really well.
Boy, that guy is so dedicated to comedy.
It's so interesting.
Like, all these years he's been doing stand-up and he's still more dedicated than ever.
You know, he's always performing.
He's always like showing up somewhere and working.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's always like, he's just constantly piecing it together.
And he's such a nice guy.
Like fucking the nicest guy to everybody.
You know, like he, like, he was upset with Chris Rock after Chris Rock made that special.
Not upset, but disagreed, I should say, that he went so hard after Will Smith.
brian redban
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, that's how nice he is.
brian redban
Have you seen Will Smith?
You've probably talked about this.
Will Smith's like new song?
That's great.
joe rogan
That's my phone ring.
brian redban
Are you serious?
It's your new phone.
joe rogan
That's my phone ring.
brian redban
Remember what you used to be?
I am beautiful.
joe rogan
That's Christina Aguilar.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
brian redban
That used to be your own.
Call back or your ringtone.
joe rogan
No matter what they say.
Bring me down.
brian redban
That's where the day is.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
It was fun.
You could get a phone.
It was like I had a Verizon flip phone and you could download ringtones.
brian redban
Why can't you do that now?
I just thought of that.
You can't do that anymore.
You can't make a song.
Where did that go away?
joe rogan
Is that really not a thing anymore?
brian redban
I never thought about that.
Wait a second.
Why was that?
joe rogan
Is that really?
No.
unidentified
What the fuck?
brian redban
You should be able to do it.
Like, pick a song on iTunes and why can't you do that anymore?
joe rogan
I think you can.
brian redban
No, no, you can't.
joe rogan
Can you?
You can?
You can't.
brian redban
You can.
joe rogan
Okay.
brian redban
Wait, no one does that anymore.
joe rogan
Nobody does that.
I'm going to switch my black and black.
Daddy out.
Yeah.
unidentified
Everybody needs to do that.
joe rogan
No one's done.
brian redban
Zero people do that.
joe rogan
I know.
Zero.
Zero.
brian redban
Where people are making their car alarm sound on their test list like things.
But you know what?
You know how you can do that?
You make like fart sounds or whatever.
joe rogan
That was like a scene in movies, right?
Where the phone would play bad to the bone.
Bad to the bone.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
brian redban
That's crazy.
joe rogan
And do you remember when you would call people and music would be?
brian redban
Bring back tones.
joe rogan
Yes.
Their tone of their you would hear, you would hear a shitty song.
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
You're like, God, you're making me listen to this.
brian redban
Yeah, now, now you don't want to do any of that because you don't want anyone to know that's your phone number.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
You don't want to go super specific.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Right.
Yeah.
I used to be like, this is Brian, man.
You know, now, fuck that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
People used to always have like funny things that they would leave.
brian redban
Hey, show ideas.
I got the phone.
joe rogan
He's the last one.
When you get a text from him to this day, I'm like, really?
brian redban
Yeah.
He texts us more nowadays.
That's kind of cool.
It's kind of cool.
Really?
unidentified
You know, the torture he put you through when you would try to text him.
brian redban
Or with the laptop in the green room one time and he's like bending my finger backwards.
I said, turn that off, cox.
I'm like, all right, Julian.
joe rogan
Yeah, he didn't like the laptop.
brian redban
He didn't like technology.
joe rogan
He was fighting technology tooth and nail, but he's right in a lot of ways, you know?
It's just, I feel like the people that fight technology right now in 2025, it's like, what are you doing?
Come on.
You can't beat this thing.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You better just adjust to the new world, son.
You can be out in the fucking field with a horse-driven plow.
Adjust to the new world.
unidentified
Okay?
joe rogan
Just have some fun.
Whatever this is, you're not going to stop it.
This motherfucker is rolling down the hill.
Like, no one's hitting the brakes on technology now unless, unless a big event happens.
Unless like a boom, some big asteroid hits us or China implements those really good drones.
brian redban
All the drones come out and wake up.
joe rogan
I think the Trump administration just said they were going to buy a million drones.
brian redban
Wow, that's good timing for banning a whole drone company.
I actually heard a rumor, I never looked in it, that somebody about that where the owner of that drone company is like owned by the vice president of the United States of America.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
JD Vance?
brian redban
Yeah, I think J.D. has like, see, I haven't researched it yet, so I don't know if it's true, but that's hilarious if it's true because we just canceled DJI and now- And he owns- I read that somewhere, but never researched it.
joe rogan
Okay, what- What specifically we'll find out?
brian redban
Was the supposedly the vice, I think it was the vice president owns a, or is investor, invested in a drone company, and the U.S. is buying all these drones from it.
Whoa, I think.
I might be wrong.
joe rogan
That's an important thing to get correct.
brian redban
I forgot that.
joe rogan
We might have to edit this out if it's not correct.
Young Jamie, put that into our sponsor, Perplexity, and find out whether or not we have an AI sponsor.
brian redban
Perplexity, I like them.
They're awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're great.
Let's see if it has information.
See, there's one thing is like you can be an investor, right?
Like maybe you have a stock portfolio and you invest in a bunch of different companies because someone told you they're really good four years ago.
When you become the vice president, are you supposed to get rid of those now?
How's that work?
brian redban
Yeah, I wouldn't think, well.
joe rogan
It gets a little Nancy Pelosi-ish.
brian redban
Maybe not new investments.
joe rogan
We don't even know if he does have stock in it.
brian redban
Probably not real.
No way.
joe rogan
Significant ties.
The first, make that a little larger, please.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
This is the first sentence.
JD Vance has significant ties to the drone and broader defense technology industry through his previous career as a venture capitalist.
Before entering political office, Vance co-founded and managed funds that invested in several defense-related startups, including the companies at the forefront of drone, aerospace, and surveillance technology.
Hmm.
Okay.
So, oh, okay, this is Anderil.
This is okay.
Interesting.
Okay.
Leading.
Can you put that back up so I can finish those?
Leading defense tech startup specializing in autonomous systems, including drones.
Palmer Lucky was on the podcast.
This is his company, too.
He brought those crazy headsets where you could see people behind walls.
unidentified
Bro.
brian redban
Yeah, that shit's awesome.
joe rogan
That's all the same company.
Benefiting from new federal legislation and growing demand for advanced military drone surveillance and automation.
unidentified
Boy, we're so close to the Terminator.
joe rogan
Okay, here it is.
Federal financing disclosure forms show that Vance maintained those investments, sometimes valued in the hundreds of thousands, while serving as vice president, although ethical boundaries about recusal and direct control over such assets are subject to federal ethics rules.
So there's federal ethics rules as to what happens, like if he passes a law that benefits that company that it has a significant stake in.
Vance has publicly commented on the national security dimensions of drone technology, criticizing the risk posed by foreign, particularly Chinese drone manufacturers and advocating for U.S.-made autonomous systems in both military and civil sectors.
Well, that is accurate, though.
It is a problem.
And it's not just a problem because there's like a bunch of problems.
One of them is in America to operate some drones when they get really high-end, you have to have a pilot's license.
brian redban
Not if it weighs under 250 grams, which is what, you know, they're like the really nice small ones.
joe rogan
Right, but to have one of the ones there were big ones in New Jersey with when they were flying those weird ones.
brian redban
That's farm ones, yes.
joe rogan
What do you think those were?
Do you think those were like government drones that they're testing?
Probably this company.
brian redban
Probably that company right there.
joe rogan
Probably Palmer Lucky with a fucking joystick.
brian redban
Assassinated.
joe rogan
Palmer Lucky sitting at home with an Xbox.
brian redban
Yeah, with his little Game Boy thing.
joe rogan
Dude, he was one of those guys where you're talking to and right away you're like, oh, okay.
Like, you're crazy smart.
Like, this is weird smart.
You know what I mean?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Some dudes are weird.
Like, Elon's weird smart.
There's people that are weird smart.
You're like, oh, okay.
brian redban
Yeah, Palmer's a badass, man.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
Like, I saw an interview with him, and it just showed like his living room or something.
And it just looks like my living room, like nerd stuff everywhere, you know?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure.
He had a copper jacket on.
brian redban
A copper jacket?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's copper.
I go, what is it?
He's like, the whole jacket's like a Faraday cage.
Like, you put your jacket in, you put your phone in the pocket, it disappears.
Oh, I was like, whoa.
It was heavy.
brian redban
Yeah, I'm sure.
joe rogan
As soon as I put it on, I was like, this is weird.
You're like, you can't move so good in it.
brian redban
$20 worth of pennies.
joe rogan
Probably at least.
Probably at least.
It was weird.
It's a weird thing to own a copper jacket, but it's very Palmer-lucky-esque.
You know what I mean?
brian redban
That's interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah, so this drone thing, like, so China has been investing, like, the way it works, their government and their corporations are like this.
They work together and they work together for China.
Like, and you don't have a choice.
Like, this is, you can make a lot of money, but you do what the fuck we tell you to do, bitch.
And that's how they run things over there.
And because of that, they can dump a ton of money into these things for the future of China and boost them up and make them work.
And then they all compete.
They compete against each other in China.
And it's like a weird hybrid of capitalism and communism.
It's very strange.
And they have a giant head start.
Like, they do drone shows.
You've seen the shows?
Well, they have like dragons in the sky and samurai.
brian redban
Have you ever been to one?
joe rogan
No.
I saw a small one at Coda at the Circuit of the Americas out here.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It was pretty dope.
But the ones they do are nuts.
They're nuts.
brian redban
They just had like one of the biggest ones ever recently.
joe rogan
See if you can find some video on some of the China drone shows.
It's incredible.
And their drones are more advanced.
They're pushing their technology faster.
And, you know, that stuff works exponentially.
And if you put the brakes on American technology, you also put the brakes on American manufacturing.
brian redban
Look at that.
That's nuts.
That's insane.
Each one of those is a drone.
joe rogan
That's nuts, dude.
I mean, that literally looks like something from Avatar.
brian redban
Dude, yes.
joe rogan
Right?
Look at that.
That's insane.
brian redban
DMT trip right there.
joe rogan
That's insane.
Look at this.
There's an enormous flower that's at the end of this little girl's kite rope.
Look at what they did.
brian redban
The moon.
It's spinning.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
Wait a minute.
Hold on.
Are those real?
brian redban
Yeah, that's real.
joe rogan
That's real for sure, for sure.
brian redban
Yeah.
It's just on.
That's the one I was talking about, the largest one ever.
joe rogan
This is the largest one ever.
Was it that we just saw?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
brian redban
This is just how they do it.
joe rogan
Look how many drones they have.
How many drones are involved in this?
brian redban
I think it's a 10,000 drones.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
This is insane.
brian redban
They can't charge up 10,000 drones.
joe rogan
Dudes, they're doing kung fu in the sky.
brian redban
I mean, that's nuts.
joe rogan
That's so impressive, man.
jamie vernon
It really is.
joe rogan
And that they're all just sync.
Oh, my God.
Like, come on, man.
At one point in time, sometime in the near future, that, I mean, they're going to be able to do whatever they want in the sky.
jamie vernon
We also have the sphere in America.
They don't have a sphere.
joe rogan
You mean the big building?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, okay.
jamie vernon
Oh, I'm just saying.
joe rogan
I get it.
jamie vernon
The sphere's pretty dope.
Like, why don't we have that?
Why can't we build music like that?
joe rogan
But at some point in time, they're going to be able to have movies in the sky that are made out of drones.
brian redban
Drones.
Yeah, every drone's going to be like an LED and then it's going to replace you.
joe rogan
Well, you'll be forced to watch a movie.
You'll be forced to lay down on your lawn and watch a movie in the sky.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, why wouldn't they be able to, if they can do that, this is very primitive, right?
This is primitive.
like the pong version of what it just they're just gonna have trillions of little tiny drones that all sink up in the sky and they all make different colors 10 000 that's just like you know this like small pixel you know we're gonna have like 4k drones everywhere oh someone used a drone jammer and they started falling out of the sky yeah whoa do you see what they're doing in ukraine because of the drone jammers They use monofilament line.
So each one of them has like a fiber optic line.
Yeah.
That's nuts.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's how they have like miles and miles of fishing line.
And then all these birds are making nests out of it and shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
That's how that government mission happened because of that.
Where he was like in that in that truck or something like that.
And all those drones came out of the truck and did all those strikes.
And I think it was a Ukraine or something like that.
joe rogan
What happened?
brian redban
Yeah.
Right.
joe rogan
What exactly happened?
brian redban
So they had to use those fiber optic lines.
There was a, I think it was Ukraine.
I don't remember what country it is, but they got over the border of whatever country it was.
And they had all these drones with those fiber optic lines and did drone strikes from the inside.
That Ukraine watched.
I couldn't remember.
On Russia's.
joe rogan
Oh, right, right, right.
This was the crazy one when they blew up all the jets that were on the runway.
brian redban
And they used that fiber optic line.
That's how they got those drones to do that.
joe rogan
That's how they got it so the drones can't be disrupted.
brian redban
Right.
Or detected or whatever, too.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
brian redban
That's like James Bond.
I mean, that's just like mission impossible shit.
joe rogan
The fact that, yeah, that actually happened.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
They really did do that.
And I think they caused like $7 billion worth of damage.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Bro, that war is one day, 24 hours.
joe rogan
I'll have a deal.
There's no deal to be made, sir.
You know, that Putin fell is making a point.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not a good one.
How many people have died now?
I mean, what is the total on both sides?
unidentified
I mean, it's got to be off the charts.
brian redban
What is going on with we're in war with all those drug runners and Trump keeps on blowing up a boat every day?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
That's kind of crazy, right?
joe rogan
My question is, how verified is this evidence?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like how much, you know, because if I was a fisherman and like there's another guy who's a fisherman, like this cucksucker, this guy is always stealing my fucking fish.
And then I would go, Mr. Trump.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
This man, he has fentanyl.
Thousand pounds coming to you.
I give you the boat number.
brian redban
Yeah, and it happens a lot.
I think two happened yesterday or two.
joe rogan
Today, Apple Tracker.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
On his fucking bait pile.
Yeah, it's weird.
Here we go.
Boom.
That's rap.
Who is still piloting those boats?
brian redban
That's great.
joe rogan
Bro, imagine how you how poor do you have to be before that seems like a good idea?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Pretty fucking poor.
brian redban
It just makes me wonder, though, if these boats, if there's like innocent people on them, too.
Like, you know.
joe rogan
For sure, this guy's bringing his girlfriend.
Come on, baby.
We're going to go to the U.S.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
There was one boat where people actually survived it, which is crazier.
Bro.
joe rogan
What kind of a story do they have?
Do you see?
Is these people that survived?
Are they actual drug people or are they just like deep sea fishing?
brian redban
Yeah.
Do you see that helicopter?
Like four people died?
It's one of the most irritating, frustrating video ever.
It just happened yesterday.
This helicopter lost its and then landed twice on the water and then for some reason went back up.
And then that's crazy.
joe rogan
I think they probably didn't know that they lost their tail.
brian redban
They have to.
That's insane.
joe rogan
I think they probably thought he could control it.
It's probably a guy.
brian redban
And if I was in that helicopter, I would just open the door and jumped into the water.
And hopefully, I survived at night.
joe rogan
Hopefully, it doesn't land on you.
This asshole is just dropping it left and right.
I bet it was a guy.
I bet a woman would have landed on the water.
unidentified
Okay, stop stop it.
How do I stop it?
brian redban
They landed.
joe rogan
Let's go.
We're going in the water.
A guy would be like, I got this.
I got this, bro.
brian redban
Right.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, I wonder what happened.
He clipped the tail somewhere?
Like, he hit something or did it fall off?
brian redban
It looked like he, because it looked like he was supposed to land on that little rock thing and then it clipped it, then went down and kind of landed on the beach for like a second.
Then went up a little, then landed again, and then he's just flying in the air.
I don't even know that was possible without a tail of a helicopter.
That seems crazy.
joe rogan
He can't direct it.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Maybe that was the problem that he couldn't control it.
I don't know.
brian redban
No, that's crazy.
joe rogan
Ask Bill Burr.
Yeah, he flies those things.
He took me up above downtown LA.
It was amazing.
I was like, this is crazy.
Like, this is so cool.
I don't like how he takes him to gigs sometimes.
brian redban
That's crazy.
Do you trust helicopter?
I don't really know.
joe rogan
I trusted it for that day.
I'm like, I'll trust it.
It's fun to go up with Bill.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was fun to see him really into this hobby he has.
I was like, that's interesting.
brian redban
It's really cool that he does it.
He's an interesting guy.
I'm surprised you didn't go to Dubai.
unidentified
Indeed?
joe rogan
No.
I mean, Saudi Arabia.
unidentified
Saudi Arabia.
brian redban
Dubai.
joe rogan
Bro, I don't even go to San Francisco.
brian redban
I'm going to go to Glendale.
joe rogan
Yeah, you think I'm going to go to.
No, no, no.
I think if you chase money when you have money, then money owns you.
Yeah.
My time is what's valuable to me.
And also, I'm not down with that whole thing.
No.
There's definitely a whitewashing.
You're, you know, Schultz has a great argument.
You're going to see your fans.
Like, just because this is put on by a government that does bad things or has done bad things.
Guess what?
Your government does bad things too and has done bad things.
Right?
You know, ask people in Yemen how they feel about America.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Ask people in Iraq.
Ask the million people that died unnecessarily because we lied about weapons and mass destruction.
Ask them.
Ask them about America.
You know?
Right.
Yeah.
It's complicated.
I get the argument.
Like, I have fans in the Middle East.
You want to go see your fans in the Middle East?
I get it.
brian redban
One.
joe rogan
I don't know.
brian redban
I bet a lot.
joe rogan
They have the internet, man.
I bet a lot.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They do.
It's not like North Korea.
They're much more open than other parts of the world.
You know, we can't judge them on.
Obviously, we can judge them.
But if you want to be rational, like, they're adjusting.
Like, women can drive now.
All right.
It's a new thing.
It's very recent.
Andrew Schultz is telling me when he was over there that a lot of people that are over there, they get their wife like a cheap Chinese car because these ladies have never driven before.
They just fucking play bumper cars with everything.
They park terrible.
They're always fucking their cars up.
And these guys have big money.
I mean, that's a very wealthy country.
unidentified
You know, so they offered Shane a bag.
joe rogan
They offered Chain a bag.
He's like, no.
brian redban
Then they doubled it.
joe rogan
And they doubled it.
And he's like, no, no.
He goes, it was hard, but they doubled it.
I'm like, of course.
That's how they're trying to get you.
But, you know, the criticism is all from people that we're not invited, which is kind of typical.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
And we're never going to be invited.
brian redban
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's, It'd be good for them to experience comedy because I think comedy is one of the only things that can get discussions going from both sides.
Like if you go on stage and you have an opinion and it's not funny, I could be in the audience.
I have a different opinion.
I'm like, well, fuck this guy.
I don't agree with that at all.
But if you go on stage with an opinion that makes me laugh, even if I don't agree with it, I'm like, oh, this motherfucker, he got me.
He got me.
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
And you're like, giving your buddies knuckles.
That's a good point.
That's like where comedy breaks down doors.
Unfortunately, there was like restrictions put on you, which is another reason why I wouldn't do it.
Like if someone says, you can't say this or you can't say that, I'm like, okay.
brian redban
Yeah.
And then you say something like, well, I didn't think about that.
You shouldn't have said that either.
We're going to.
Laws.
joe rogan
There's a lot.
Like if you went over there and made fun of a prince or a king or a royal or the government or whatever, you're in real trouble.
Like you could go to jail forever trouble.
That doesn't make me feel loose.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know, that doesn't make me feel like I want to do stand-up in a place like that.
brian redban
Yeah.
Almost like the UK.
Yikes.
joe rogan
They're worse than anybody.
That's what's funny.
Most people don't even know.
Most Americans are blissfully unaware of how crazy censorship has gotten in the UK.
Off the charts.
And crime and censorship because people are complaining about the crime.
That's really what the censorship is all about because it's all about immigrants.
brian redban
Pickpocketers everywhere.
joe rogan
Bro, they just brought in people from places they bombed.
How wild is that?
Like, oh, did we ruin your country?
Sims, how are you?
Come on over and live in London.
brian redban
Saudi Arabia album.
joe rogan
All the places that the West has bombed the shit out of, and you create all these refugees, and then you bring them to your country.
Like, what are you doing?
brian redban
It's insane.
joe rogan
Why don't you have a vetting process?
Are you trying to ruin everything?
And that's where I think it gets weird because I think like under the guise of empathy and under the guise of kindness, they are engineering the destruction of major Western cities.
And the question is like, who?
Well, George Soros is the big one that everybody points to, but he can't be acting alone.
There's got to be a lot of other people that also want this same result.
And you got to go, well, why?
And the more I think about it, the more I think about it with its accelerated pace right now, because it's so accelerated, the more I think it's connected to the ultimate, the ultimate birth of AI, when AI really does become the global force for everything.
They're going to want you already locked into like digital ID.
And that's the first response that England has had to all these problems.
It's not stop immigration.
It's not crack down, find the criminals, arrest them.
No, no, no.
It's put everybody on digital ID to keep us all safe.
And that's so once you see, if they do have AI, AI is in control of everything, everything you do, all your money, all your food, all your groceries.
They put carbon taxes on you so they can complete control you.
You have a carbon allotment.
So if you go over your carbon footprint, they'll fucking, you can't travel anymore.
So you're totally locked in.
They would want all that stuff in place.
And the only way to get that stuff in place is to create chaos.
So you want to like newly super restrictive laws.
Get people so they're terrified and they want safety.
Someone offers a solution and that solution involves them being able to track you everywhere you go and everybody has to have it.
unidentified
Yes, this is the solution to make us all safe.
joe rogan
And the next thing you know, you're in a fucking Orwell book.
brian redban
But on the other side, I do like the idea of having my driver's license on my phone.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Like, why not just get a chip?
Don't be a pussy.
Get the forearm chip.
You know that's coming.
brian redban
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Get that chip, son.
brian redban
Brain chip.
joe rogan
No, no, no, get the brain one.
Wait, you know, it's like you don't go right into an iPhone.
You get a Blackberry first.
brian redban
Do you think Elon has the brain chip and he's not telling anybody?
joe rogan
No, I think Elon's an alien.
brian redban
Yeah, he's not real, right?
joe rogan
I don't think he's from here.
If there's a person that's not from here, that's the guy.
unidentified
Trillion-dollar he's a different kind of human and he's having fun.
joe rogan
That's the thing, man.
Like, I'm friends with him.
Like, I've hung out with him on air, off-air.
He's having fun.
Like, he's having fun.
That's what I want.
He's like, works constantly and also always laughing, having a good time.
Like, I got to see the SpaceX launch, and then Jamie and I were there on the lawn while it was launching.
It was crazy.
It was two miles away.
I thought it was like a quarter of a mile or half a mile because it's so loud.
Two miles.
brian redban
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Two miles away.
And then I got to sit in the command room and watch them.
They had all these monitors.
Like, I don't know how many different cameras were on this fucking rocket.
And we watched it touch down in Australia 35 minutes later.
brian redban
That's so cool.
joe rogan
It was wild, dude.
But all the way, he's joking around about it blowing up.
Really?
Because what they're doing with these is they were running.
He was explaining to us on the show that they were running very specific tolerance tests.
So they would remove heat shields in critical areas to see whether or not the vehicle will survive.
So one of the things about the blow-ups, people are like, oh, he's a fucking idiot.
He keeps blowing up his rockets.
They're designed to possibly blow up because they want to find out what can it tolerate, right?
And so they removed these heat shields from very specific places, but it still made it.
And so it lost pressure somewhere over Australia.
And there was like only a 30% chance that it was going to touch down.
But it did.
unidentified
Wow.
brian redban
That's so fucking.
joe rogan
It's wild, man.
It's wild.
It's wild how much data they're collecting instantaneously.
And it was also practicing this thing that the way it shoots satellites into space.
It's like a Pez dispenser.
So it has like these things, these satellites are all on a rack.
And then this thing opens up that looks like, you know, like just a long flat opening like a Pez would come out of.
And then they shoot these satellites out of it.
And they were practicing that.
brian redban
That's cool.
joe rogan
I'm like, this is nuts.
This is nuts.
unidentified
It's really weird.
joe rogan
Like the door opens up and you're watching.
Like, this is crazy.
I don't think everybody understands how advanced this stuff is.
Like, I thought, Jamie, you felt the same way, right?
When we were going down to the factory, I thought they'd have a rocket that they built.
No, they're building like hundreds of rockets.
Like, it's already.
brian redban
Assembly plant, that kind of style.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's huge.
It's fucking huge, man.
At one point in time, what did they say they were going to be able to do?
Three a week?
brian redban
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Wasn't it something crazy like that?
unidentified
I don't remember how many.
jamie vernon
Well, they have to do a lot, but yeah, I don't remember how many.
joe rogan
That was the ultimate goal.
jamie vernon
I feel like more than that.
joe rogan
More than that.
Maybe three a day.
I don't know.
Three a week.
Let's just say three a week.
unidentified
Rockets that can go to space.
joe rogan
It's and the process is fucking bananas.
You can't take pictures.
I don't even know if we're allowed to get specific, but while you're walking around and you're looking at it, I wouldn't be able to explain it to anybody.
The Chinese are listening carefully.
What does Rogan say?
brian redban
Pez dispenser.
joe rogan
Write that down.
But it's nuts.
They have garage doors that are as high as a fucking skyscraper.
And then they roll out a rocket.
You're like, yo, this is nuts.
It's really, like, truly nuts.
That's awesome.
And the outside of it is just like a cyber truck factory.
Like, what is going on here?
Whose car is whose?
How does anybody know?
That's the argument.
Like, if you ever want to have, like, if someone's going to totally completely track everything you do forever, it's going to be an electric car.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
brian redban
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Because that's just, you're just driving a computer.
You didn't even have an engine anymore.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, it's all, everything's electric.
Electric, computer-controlled vehicle that self-drives itself.
Yeah.
brian redban
Have you tried one of the robo taxis yet?
joe rogan
No fucking way.
I would feel like such a scab.
I would be like a picket line crossing.
brian redban
Yeah.
I do have a question for you.
Have you gotten a colonoscopy?
joe rogan
Yeah, I got one.
brian redban
Now, do you go to a regular doctor?
Because I was thinking, like, does Joe go?
joe rogan
You should probably go to a butthole doctor.
brian redban
No, I mean, like, do you, do you go to like a private guy?
Like, you don't go to like, where all the other guys are.
joe rogan
I'm telling you on air when I get my buttons.
brian redban
Like, that's, like, weird.
I just had one.
joe rogan
And how's everything up there?
unidentified
Good.
brian redban
Everything's great.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
brian redban
Yeah, it's so amazing, right?
It doesn't make any sense.
joe rogan
What do you think about when you abuse your body?
brian redban
But I hate it.
They have to roll you like when you're getting it.
They roll you down this hallway and there's all these like people just sitting there looking at like, oh, it's his body.
Yeah, like, we're really doing it, Red Band.
Like, type shit.
And that was just, it's just weird.
It's not, it's very.
joe rogan
Do you get your blood work done?
unidentified
Do you get yourself checked up every six weeks?
brian redban
I do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a unique blood screen that they can give you now that checks for all cancers in your body.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
Oh, shit.
I need that.
We're just doing it.
joe rogan
Waste of all do it.
brian redban
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Fuck.
joe rogan
I got nervous.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I got nervous like the first time I ever got an AIDS test.
I got an AIDS test in the first time.
I've been getting them a lot lately.
unidentified
I've been getting them a lot lately.
brian redban
Do it every six weeks.
joe rogan
It was in the 90s.
I was getting health insurance for the first time.
And it was like early 90s, like 92, something like that.
And I was like, oh, no.
I was just thinking of all the stupid things that I've ever done.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
What if I have AIDS and I don't even know?
That's how everybody thinks that.
brian redban
I don't like that.
And then the mosquitoes.
joe rogan
And then after a while, everyone was like, hey, no one's really getting AIDS.
What's going on?
brian redban
I was scared of AIDS too.
joe rogan
Oh, everybody was, dude.
I remember the moment I found out that Michael, that Magic Johnson was HIV positive, I was in my car in Revere, Massachusetts, driving on the road.
brian redban
You fucked him.
joe rogan
He was right next to Army, right next to me, with his dick out.
I was like, you didn't tell me.
That dude was the first one that everyone was scared.
Like, oh, no, he can get it.
If he can get it, he's a superstar.
If Magic Johnson can get it, I'm going to die.
I'm fucked.
Oh, my God.
And we really thought that it was going to be like a zombie contagion that swept through the world and everyone was going to die.
Because they were talking, like, Fauci was on TV talking about children getting it from family members, like that it was communicable, like in the air, like the flu.
It was so spooky, man.
That guy scared the fuck out of everybody when it came to AIDS.
Just like he did with COVID.
How weird.
How weird that he did it again.
brian redban
Isn't it crazy to think that EZE died from AIDS?
How did EZE really die, though?
joe rogan
He must have taken AZT.
You know, the idea that Easy E died from AIDS itself, like it's mostly drug users.
That was who was dying in the early days of AIDS.
And this is what Peter Duisberg said.
So Peter Duisberg, he's like a persona non grata in the medical world.
And it's because he had a completely different opinion than everybody else when AIDS first came out.
He was like, one piece of data that are not taking into consideration is that all these people that have AIDS, acquired immune deficiency syndrome, not just HIV positive, but all the people that have AIDS, all of them are hardcore drug users.
It was like 90-something percent of people that had, air quotes, AIDS.
And they weren't, I don't know whether it's political correctness or what.
It was a lot of gay party guys.
And these guys were taking hardcore shit, like amyl nitrate, which apparently loosens up the old booty hole, makes it easy to, as the kids say today, bottom.
They didn't used to call it bottom back then.
They were calling it butt fucking.
Now it's bottoming.
You know, have you seen Holtox?
brian redban
No, what's that?
joe rogan
Guys get Botox on their hole to make it looser.
brian redban
Are you serious?
joe rogan
Yeah, to make bottoming easier.
They call it Holtox.
brian redban
Oh, no.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you leave men to their own devices, they will come up with the worst things to do to themselves.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But so that was, so Duisberg, his contention, and it was like, I remember we had him on the podcast.
And it was the first time we got like violent pushback.
People like, you have blood on your hands.
I'm like, who's dying of AIDS right now?
Because this was like 2012 or something.
I'm like, who's dying of AIDS?
Is this a real thing?
Because I'm just bringing on this guy from the University of California, Berkeley, who's a tenured professor who did ground breaking research on cancer, like really respected, until he took this position on HIV that was outside of the Fauci narrative.
And he was like, I don't think that's what we're looking at here.
He goes, I think HIV is a symptom of someone having a very compromised immune system.
I don't think it's a cause.
unidentified
And they were like, you monster.
joe rogan
You have blood on your hands.
Like, I remember there was an article written in one of those magazines, like Spin Magazine or something like that.
brian redban
Spin.
joe rogan
Back in the day.
You know, when it was like cool.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
They used to have cool music magazines.
Like, Spin was a cool music magazine.
brian redban
There was another one.
What was the other one?
Maxim.
Maximum.
No.
joe rogan
No, Maxim was like a guy's magazine.
But like, remember Rolling Stone used to be cool?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Used to be cool.
It was like, before it was like a propaganda arm.
It was like you'd get interesting stories.
And this was in, I think it was Spin Magazine.
brian redban
Spin.
There was another one that was like Spin.
That's what I'm trying to remember.
joe rogan
See if you can find Peter Duisberg article AIDS.
jamie vernon
Easy died only a month after he was diagnosed.
unidentified
Whoa.
brian redban
He went full blown that fast.
jamie vernon
He might have been diagnosed with full blow.
joe rogan
I think that's what I was doing.
unidentified
Right.
Wow.
jamie vernon
And some rapper thinks there's a conspiracy that he was killed by the government.
joe rogan
Well, that's fun.
brian redban
I mean, Ice Cube had that whole album saying that he got fucked in the ass by Dr. J in a baseball bat, no Vaseline or whatever.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, who knows?
Don't you remember when Suge Knight was on, I think he was on Jimmy Kimmel's show talking about how you just inject somebody with AIDS?
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You can inject them with AIDS.
brian redban
Like the mosquitoes.
joe rogan
What was my question?
Oh, Peter Duisberg Spin Magazine.
Yeah, so he wrote this article about it.
And then he, I believe he wrote a book about it, but he's fucked.
Like his career completely stalled out after that.
He couldn't get funding for things.
And, you know, widely dismissed by all, most all other scientists.
And back then, I used to think it doesn't make sense that this one guy has figured things out and that nobody else does.
But now I'm like, maybe it's the same as what happened during COVID.
But maybe back then there's no internet.
And maybe back then they could just get away with it.
Maybe back then they got used to getting away with it, which is why they tried it again in 2020.
That's why they did the exact same thing to all those legitimate professors, legitimate doctors.
They shamed them and banned them.
They didn't want anybody deviating.
And that's, I think, what they might have done to this guy.
That's crazy to think that the whole AIDS crisis might have really been about people destroying their immune system through hardcore drug use.
That was his contention.
And people were saying it's very homophobic.
It's like, okay, let's not let's say a bunch of nice things about gay people.
We love them.
We appreciate, you know, I have no problem with gay people.
Let's say it.
Like, if you're talking about this, if you were a doctor back then, gay people are amazing.
However, all these gay people are doing drugs.
All these gay people that are getting AIDS, like something like 90% of them were hardcore drug users.
This was his contention.
And you would say, well, that's what opens them to the type of behavior that you get AIDS with.
Like, okay.
Right.
But Sam Kinnison had a bit about that.
Do you remember his bit?
He was like, they say, Sam, AIDS is a communicable disease.
Straight people get it too.
He goes, name one.
Name one fucking guy.
Name one.
It's not our fucking dance.
jamie vernon
He didn't write the article, but he's definitely in the article.
joe rogan
Right.
There was an article about him.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, he didn't write the article.
Did I say he wrote it?
jamie vernon
No, no, I'm just for clarification because I didn't.
joe rogan
No, it was an article about Bob Guccione, Spin Magazine.
Isn't he the guy that owns Penthouse?
I think so, right?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
Bob Buguccioni Jr., founder of Spin.
jamie vernon
Oh, maybe I am.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Okay, listen to this.
So this is what he wrote, what Bob Guccioni Jr. wrote.
unidentified
Scroll up a little higher.
joe rogan
At the end of 1989, two years after we started the highly controversial AIDS column in Spin, we published an article by Cecilia Farber called The Sins of Omission about the truly bad and corrupt science surrounding promoting AZT as a treatment for the syndrome of diseases.
Celia was the editor and frequent writer of the column and unearthed hard evidence of the cold-bloodedness of the AIDS establishment pushing a drug that was worse than the disease and killed faster than the natural progression of AIDS left untreated.
AZT had been an abandoned cancer drug discarded because of its fatal toxicity, resurrected in the cynical belief that AIDS patients were going to die anyway.
So trying it out was sort of like playing with the house's money.
Because the drug didn't require the usual massive expensive research and trial processes, having gone through that years earlier, it was insanely profitable for its maker, Burroughs Wellcome.
It was a tragically perfect storm of windfall profits, something to pacify AIDS activists and the media, and a convenient boom to the patient holders for HIV testing.
Oh, patents, excuse me, patent owners, patent holders for HIV testing.
Celia, who should get the Congressional Medal of Honor for her brave and relentless reporting here and throughout the 10 years we ran the column, exposed the worthlessness of the drug, the shady studies and deals to suppress the negative findings and its awful and final consequences.
This piece very literally changed the media's view of AIDS and sharpened their discerning and skeptical eye.
And soon after, AZT was once again shelved, hopefully this time forever.
Many times over the years since people have come up to me and said that reading this article saved their lives, that they either stopped taking the drug and their health improved vastly or they never took it because of what we reported.
Nothing ever made me prouder.
Bob Guccioni Jr., founder of SPIN, October 3rd, 2015.
So this is all, this article is all about Peter Duisburg's perspective on this.
And it's very complicated, and it's certainly not for me, a guy like me, to figure out if he's telling the truth or if he's correct.
But what they said about AZT and chemotherapy and pushing AZT through and how they made a bunch of money, that's all true.
They were not only that, but they were giving AZT to people that showed no symptoms, like Arthur Ashe.
Arthur Ash tested positive.
They gave him AZT.
There's a bunch of people died from taking AZT that probably didn't have to die.
That's scary shit, man.
If it's the same guy that pushed the vaccine during the AIDS crisis, during the COVID crisis, it's kind of fucked that he got to do it twice.
brian redban
Serial killer.
joe rogan
And if he didn't do it twice, nobody probably would be aware that it was the same guy because even if you know about AZT, nobody was going Anthony Fauci.
Nobody was saying that guy's name.
You know, you weren't saying when you would talk about the AIDS crisis.
They even made a movie about it, right?
Dallas Buyers Club.
That's the fucking movie.
That's what it's about.
The bad guy in Dallas Buyers Club is Anthony Fauci.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
brian redban
I need to rewatch that.
joe rogan
That's the guy keeping them from getting other medications and pushing AZT.
They did the same thing.
We played a video the other day where Fauci's talking about AZT.
The reason why they use it is because it's both safe and effective.
He used the exact same terminology.
Fucking wild.
unidentified
It's wild.
joe rogan
And then when Biden's leaving office, he gives him a pardon.
Big old juicy pardon.
brian redban
That's ridiculous.
joe rogan
It's kind of funny.
It is kind of funny, right?
It's like, God, when it's so in your face, the corruption's so like up your ass and in your face.
Like, bro.
What are you going to do?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Move to New York, become a socialist.
unidentified
Try that out.
Jesus.
brian redban
No, thanks.
That's going to be interesting to see what happens in New York.
joe rogan
Yeah, most likely he's not going to be able to do most of the stuff he said he was going to do because he'll find out you can't.
brian redban
Oh, I heard all these CEOs are moving out of there in the stock market I heard is moving.
I don't know if that's real.
Is that real?
Stock market's moving to Texas, I heard.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
Yeah, because they're on the stock market here.
It's similar, but I don't think it's the same.
joe rogan
But you got to have a Ten Commandments on the wall and you check your gun at the door.
brian redban
I just got my first gun.
I can't wait to shoot it.
joe rogan
Congratulations.
brian redban
So easy.
Shadow Systems War Poet.
unidentified
Whoa, War Poet.
joe rogan
That sounds like something Aubrey Markets, right?
brian redban
The whole time I'm like, wait, is this Aubrey's gun?
Yes, Shadow System, though.
It's like a Glock 19-ish.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Nine millimeter?
brian redban
Nine millimeter.
joe rogan
Have you gone to the range yet?
brian redban
Not yet.
I need to go.
I want to get a scope for it, though, too.
Like one of those laser scopes.
joe rogan
Red dots.
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
Red dot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Scope.
brian redban
Of course, I need to get a silencer and all the fun stuff.
unidentified
Oh, God.
brian redban
But it's so crazy how easy it is.
You know, I didn't know it was literally walk in, go, I want a gun.
And they do a little background check and go, here's your gun.
Like, you don't have to register it.
joe rogan
They just make sure you're not a criminal.
unidentified
Right.
brian redban
It's great.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's better.
brian redban
And you don't even need to do that.
You could literally give somebody a gun in this state and go, here, that's your gun now.
Like, gift a gun.
joe rogan
The craziest thing about this country is the place with the most gun violence are the cities that have the tightest gun control.
unidentified
Right.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, boy, you talk about counterintuitive.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I wonder if that's our same problem with drugs.
I really do.
I mean, I don't necessarily think it's going to be good to have all drugs legal and sold everywhere.
I just don't think it's necessarily good for us.
But also, it's not good to not do it.
It's not good to make it illegal because then people are just going to get it somewhere else.
brian redban
Right.
Bad versions of it.
joe rogan
This is my argument against gambling, too.
Like, especially online gambling.
You know, if online gambling becomes somehow or another illegal, like if they stop with these apps, like let's say some people decide: look, there's so many people that are losing their money and going crazy and getting addicted to sports books that we're going to have to ban all these apps that allow you to bet on sports.
And then there's a scandal that happened with the NBA, and there's another scandal with the UFC.
So it's clear that organized crime is getting involved, and people are trying to make money with rigging bets and shit like that.
So we're going to make it illegal.
You think people are going to stop betting?
It's just going to be like they're in the prohibition.
They're in the prohibition.
What did they do?
They went out and they fucking bought illegal booze.
They're going to go out and they're going to support illegal gambling.
They're going to go to people's houses where they're going to have poker games and they're going to get robbed.
You know, it's going to, you're just going to open people up to crime.
You're going to open people up to the kind of people that are willing to risk their freedom in order to have an illegal game so they can make money.
Those are wild people, man.
That's the same people bringing in fentanyl.
That's why they have to blow these boats up.
The reason why they have to blow these boats up is because fentanyl's coming in.
The reason why fentanyl's coming in is because we don't have legal drugs.
We have to get it illegally.
And we got a shit ton of junkies.
The drugs are illegal, but they're somehow or another getting here to the point where they've ruined Portland.
The whole city is filled with junkies.
You got people, like homeless people everywhere, complete chaos.
unidentified
It's all drugs.
brian redban
I think that fentanyl bin looks sexy on a girl, though.
joe rogan
It's crazy for spine control.
brian redban
Yeah, like that.
joe rogan
Some people are doing like amazing yoga.
Like, I've done yoga.
unidentified
It's hard.
It's hard to stay still.
joe rogan
These fucking dudes are like on the street, like literally looking at their asshole.
brian redban
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Looking back at their asshole, one leg forward, like face sniffing their own butt.
And somehow or another, they just hold that position with their hand out here like this.
It must feel so good.
brian redban
But legal gambling is what's killing Vegas, right?
Like the whole Vegas is in a lot of trouble.
joe rogan
Vegas is in a little bit of trouble.
I think the problem with Vegas is things got super expensive.
They started charging people for parking.
They stopped giving as many free drinks at the tables.
But that might have been in response to losing money, too.
I don't know.
But that's what a lot of people complain about.
brian redban
Yeah.
And that's sad.
joe rogan
Vegas is a tricky place because if you could do what you could do everywhere and not have to go to Vegas for it, what does it have for you?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
All it has is like big event centers and the fact that you go there for a vacation.
So that's why they're trying to get people to do like they do residencies, you know, like Celine Deanna, the residency there.
And I think, what's his face?
Garth Brooks had a residency there.
brian redban
And a sphere.
I guess you have to make stuff like that.
joe rogan
The sphere.
Yeah.
Like you can only go.
They're building some extra spheres, right?
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
The original goal was to have three of them, and I think now they've reeled back on that.
There's a smaller one I saw getting made somewhere.
brian redban
There's mini-spheres are blowing up now everywhere.
They just opened up one in Dallas.
And I want to invest in that company.
joe rogan
That's a separate thing.
That's a separate thing.
But there's one place that allows you to be in front of a screen that is so big it feels like you're on the field, right?
I've seen that.
brian redban
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That's the one we're talking about.
jamie vernon
It's weirdly called Cosm, and I don't think it's related to the other place.
joe rogan
It's not.
brian redban
It's not.
joe rogan
Chapel of Sacred Mirrors.
That's his.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Alex Gray.
unidentified
Leave him alone.
joe rogan
He owns Cosm.
You can't call it Cosm.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
You know?
That's Chapel of Sacred Mirrors.
jamie vernon
They made that Sweet Matrix version of the movie.
brian redban
That's the language here.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
unidentified
I'll show you.
jamie vernon
I'll show you.
It's insane.
brian redban
You haven't seen this?
joe rogan
No.
Cosm did this?
brian redban
Yeah, if you could still go.
I think they have it in Dallas.
I want to go show that.
jamie vernon
It's called Matrix and Shared Reality.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
Let me find the video of the Matrix.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
unidentified
Yeah, this is a company investing, I think.
joe rogan
Well, it's the greatest way to see a fight.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's probably better than going live.
brian redban
It is, probably.
jamie vernon
It's the same screen.
You're watching it there.
I'll probably back it up there.
But, like, that's the movie in the middle, and then they've added all the extra shit around it to like add nonsense shit to look at.
They did the similar thing with the Wizard of Oz.
Like, I saw people complaining the Wizard of Oz at the sphere is full of AI because they expanded the screen.
brian redban
But they did it, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah, and I've seen shit, though.
It looks kind of neat.
brian redban
It looks badass.
jamie vernon
Like, they got to tornado flying tornado.
joe rogan
Why are people upset?
jamie vernon
Because people are nonsense.
joe rogan
They want the old one.
You can still get the old one.
She's not the sphere.
You're at the sphere.
Shut the fuck up.
jamie vernon
Enjoy it.
joe rogan
Oh, I want it to be like the old one.
unidentified
I want it to be grainy and make me feel about like apple pie.
joe rogan
Remind me of the olden days.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
When that was a good movie.
Bro, you know how many people died from The Wizard of Oz?
Like, how many people got sick?
Like, that dude that had the Tin Man?
That guy got fucked up from that stuff.
brian redban
Makeup, yeah.
A lot of shit happened.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
The makeup got him.
brian redban
There was a, I think, over 10 things that happened like that on the Wizard of Oz.
There's a lot of shit that happened.
I don't know if that hanging guy was real.
Remember that guy?
joe rogan
Did someone hang himself?
brian redban
Hung himself.
Was that real?
I don't think that was real, right?
jamie vernon
No.
It's definitely one of the longest-lasting urban myths about it, though.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But what happened to the Tin Man?
brian redban
It was the makeup that you had.
joe rogan
Right, but what happened to him?
jamie vernon
I'm looking it up.
joe rogan
I think it was bad.
You got to imagine, like, how toxic is that stuff?
Especially back then.
This was like back when they had the Radium Girls.
Do you know about that?
brian redban
The witch, the witch had something happened to her, too.
joe rogan
Buddy Epson originally cast in roles, the woodman, aka the tin man, was essentially poisoned by the makeup, which was made of pure aluminum dust.
Oh my God.
Nine days after filming started, he was hospitalized, sitting under an oxygen tent.
When he was not getting better fast enough, the filmmakers hired Jack Haley to be the tin man instead.
This time, instead of applying aluminum powder, the makeup artists mixed it into a paste and painted it on him.
He did develop an infection in his right eye that needed medical attention, but it ended up getting treatable.
So that guy, they just left him.
jamie vernon
He lost the role.
joe rogan
He lost the role.
unidentified
Wow, that's sucks.
joe rogan
So whatever happened to him afterwards.
Let's find out what happened to Buddy Ebson after the.
Let's see.
I wonder if he survived.
No, that can't be him.
brian redban
Wait, that's the original guy.
joe rogan
Wait, that's him.
jamie vernon
I mean, they replaced him.
joe rogan
Right, but it can't be Buddy Ebson from the Beverly Hillbillies.
It can't be the same guy.
jamie vernon
I mean, how many.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
How many Buddy Ebsons are there?
What did that just say?
brian redban
Oh, yeah, it's him.
joe rogan
That's him.
So he got lucky.
brian redban
Maybe.
jamie vernon
Maybe it never would have been Jed Clampett because they couldn't have been the Tin Man.
joe rogan
That's nuts.
brian redban
Man, his face looks like a 10-man now that you look at it.
joe rogan
Is that definitely the same guy?
Does it say that?
unidentified
Right here.
jamie vernon
Best known for rules as Jed Clampett and Barnaby.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Right.
But does it say that he was in.
brian redban
Yeah, there's a little 10-man second picture over.
joe rogan
I know, but that might be the other one.
Is that the same guy?
We'll look in his Wikipedia.
jamie vernon
Because I think there's two different famous Buddy Ebsons.
brian redban
I know.
joe rogan
What are the odds?
Well, the other guy, maybe he's dead.
Maybe he didn't get famous.
This guy jacked his name.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's signed by MGM.
joe rogan
Wizard of Oz.
There it is.
Wow.
That's him.
He was the original Wizard of Oz.
brian redban
Sexy.
Wow.
Sexy Tin Man.
joe rogan
Poisoned his ass.
That's nuts.
Oh, she was wearing green, right?
jamie vernon
Burns from the makeup.
joe rogan
Oh, she got burned.
How false Copper makeup so that it wouldn't seep through her wounds and become toxic.
Unlike Epson, she didn't get fired because they could live without her on the set for several more weeks.
Oh my god.
brian redban
Then it says false.
The actor didn't hang himself.
joe rogan
I'm one of them playing the munchkins.
unidentified
Whoo!
joe rogan
True.
Someone stepped on Toto.
Oh, no.
jamie vernon
Let's skip that part.
joe rogan
Yeah, those movies are weird to watch now because you realize that wasn't that long ago in terms of human history.
And people were just weird back then.
brian redban
Nuts.
joe rogan
So what does the sphere version of The Wizard of Oz look like?
brian redban
So they, as an example, it's normal in the middle.
jamie vernon
Right.
brian redban
But then they built everything around it.
So like when there's a tornado, the original movie just had like a little spinny tornado.
Now they make this humongous tornado, like where you could see like the clouds in the sky and this monster trunk of a tornado.
It's so awesome.
joe rogan
Who would complain about that?
brian redban
Yeah, people just hear AI don't change my movies.
unidentified
And they're like, oh, I went to see, I just wanted to see a big version of the same old shitty movie.
brian redban
Right.
And while that tornado is going on, they have like things flying through the air for real.
joe rogan
Like drones?
brian redban
No, no, like things that are supposed to look like dust and stuff.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brian redban
That's amazing.
jamie vernon
Giant fans in there and they have to throw debris in the air and shit.
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
That's incredible.
Why would anybody complain about that?
You know, when they did the UFC there, I think it was at least 20 million.
Oh, they spread it out, do that again?
jamie vernon
They had the ad stuff that actors would have been doing.
You never know what they would have.
That's what I saw people were mad about.
Whether they were.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, that guy looks fake.
jamie vernon
It's just the.
brian redban
Well, no, no, this is not the final version.
joe rogan
Oh, that's when they're working on it?
brian redban
Yeah, that's when they were working on it still.
Yeah.
joe rogan
So they had to have them walk in and see.
Look at that.
Wow.
brian redban
I mean, it looks badass.
I want to go really bad.
I'm going to go there next month to go see something.
jamie vernon
So not the whole movie, I think.
joe rogan
It's not?
No.
brian redban
I thought it was.
jamie vernon
I don't think they did the entire thing.
Like, let's say if the movie's two hours, I think it's an hour and a half or something like that.
joe rogan
Oh, well, that's not.
jamie vernon
They want to cut out some songs or something.
joe rogan
You're not supposed to do that because then it's not going to sync up.
brian redban
Right.
Yeah.
I wish they would do that, though.
Like, if you go there, you get headphones and you listen to the Pink Floyd.
That'd be badass.
joe rogan
Well, you would bring your phone.
jamie vernon
Oh.
joe rogan
And you would sync it up.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
So that would piss me off if they fucked it up and made it an hour and a half instead of two hours.
And I just dropped acid when I was ready.
unidentified
Dude.
brian redban
I'm going to go see Zach Brown band there next month.
So what is he doing in there?
He's got a residency there.
He's doing the sphere.
joe rogan
What is he doing with like the crazy sky?
brian redban
He said he was working on, they've been working on a lot of cool stuff, but I didn't ask him.
joe rogan
Oh, he probably can't tell you anyway.
brian redban
Right.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Until the thing.
So who's been there?
unidentified
They had Grateful Dad.
joe rogan
Fish.
brian redban
Fish.
joe rogan
Right.
Was it Fish?
brian redban
Yeah, Fish was there.
jamie vernon
You started it.
joe rogan
You two started it.
brian redban
Right.
You two Did the first one and the Backstreet Boys or something weird like that were there?
In Sync?
jamie vernon
Yeah, Backstreet Boys.
When I was there the weekend it started and I was walking around wondering why everyone was dressed in white.
I don't know how you do this and how you tell people to do this.
Everyone showed up in white for the Backstreet Boys.
Every show.
20,000 people.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
For the Backstreet Boys?
jamie vernon
Yeah, mostly girls, guys, too.
Wait, I don't know how you're doing it.
joe rogan
What is that all about?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
It was very strange.
Walking around Vegas and everyone dressed in white jeans, white shirts.
brian redban
Ew.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
What is fucking happening?
Oh, the Backstreet Boys are here.
And you leave at 11:30 and they're all walking around drunk and still all in white.
joe rogan
Bro, the Backstreet Boys were huge when I was 21.
If you had told me when I was 38, they would be playing in the most sophisticated dome, most sophisticated auditorium, whatever you want to call it, stadium that anyone's ever performed in.
I'd be like, what?
brian redban
And selling it out.
jamie vernon
I've got the list of acts now.
Yeah, Zach Brown starts in a couple weeks.
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
No Doubts coming in May.
brian redban
No doubt?
unidentified
Yep.
jamie vernon
Randy Chesney's also been there.
joe rogan
Do you know how much money it must cost to run?
Because the UFC budget was way over because of it because they had these big, crazy animated things that were going on in the background.
It was fucking cool as shit, man.
Just walking into the building the first time, I was like, this is nuts.
brian redban
That's awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was really truly impressive.
And I guess the outside is insane, too.
You know?
brian redban
Yeah.
It's cool the visuals they have on that.
Like the advertisement, too.
Like, you know, they would just have like Samsung phones on this big.
Yeah.
joe rogan
After a while, it's just going to be drones in the sky.
Just pixel-sized drones.
Just trillions of them playing a movie out.
I mean, that sounds crazy, but so does a screen.
So does it, you know, a giant.
I was watching some guy reviewing the biggest TV you can buy now.
It's like 118 inches.
brian redban
130, I think.
joe rogan
Is it really?
brian redban
Yeah, I think I know what you're talking about.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe it's, you know, the thing about these things is like, maybe the video I watched was seven months old.
brian redban
Right.
Right.
unidentified
And now there's a one that's Linus Tech Tips.
joe rogan
No, someone else.
Some guy.
And he was like, you can sit it on a cabinet, but it weighs 240 pounds.
So like you have to have like a super sturdy cabinet.
But most people should just hang them on the wall, but you do not try to hang it on the wall by yourself.
It's like it's just way too heavy.
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
What is it?
jamie vernon
It's 10 days old.
It's 116 inch TV.
joe rogan
Oh, so that's the biggest?
unidentified
I don't know.
jamie vernon
I just typed in Biggest TV.
It's the largest TV in the world.
Maybe it's a mid-LED.
joe rogan
I think there's something a little bigger.
Maybe it's not.
brian redban
Maybe it is 116 inches.
jamie vernon
Unboxing the biggest TV yet.
brian redban
Unbox therapy.
jamie vernon
The thing I like that's cool that nobody can get is like what Justin Bieber and Kanye have in their warehouses, which is like a giant Jumbotron screen.
And they're watching TV and watching movies.
joe rogan
A giant jumbotron.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I don't like it.
joe rogan
So they made a movie theater.
jamie vernon
It's like they're practicing for their arena shows and they're just.
What?
Yeah, I hear me.
Really?
joe rogan
Let me show you, dude.
No.
So a Jumbotron like you would have at Madison Square Garden.
And they have one in their house.
jamie vernon
It's like his way to the show.
brian redban
Justin Bieber.
jamie vernon
He started.
brian redban
He's been following Bieber.
unidentified
Wait a minute.
joe rogan
Justin Bieber's doing a Twitch.
jamie vernon
He started doing Twitch recently.
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
Yeah, he's just live streaming his, like, he's making videos and practicing.
He's got a basketball hoop and golf shop.
joe rogan
How many people are watching while he's doing this?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
He also doesn't really communicate with the fans or anything.
They just kind of have it on.
That thing back here is a giant screen.
I don't wish you could see it on.
joe rogan
That's so weird.
But like, how many people are watching this while it's streaming?
jamie vernon
Well, this video has 250,000 views from 13 days ago.
joe rogan
Right, but this is a YouTube video.
This is an actual stream.
jamie vernon
This is a reposting of it.
joe rogan
Right.
Is it on his channel?
No.
Hebug is his channel.
jamie vernon
No, this isn't his channel.
I don't watch won't show the video on it.
joe rogan
So the 242,000 are on someone else's channel.
So they've taken his stream and reposted it.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I guess.
He's just making his video or making songs.
But it's not showing the screen I wanted to show you.
brian redban
How do you know about this?
Are you a believer?
unidentified
I mean, he's got good songs.
joe rogan
He's got good songs.
jamie vernon
He's a golfer.
brian redban
Oh, he's a golfer.
joe rogan
Oh, he's a golfer.
It's that cult, the cult of the volume.
jamie vernon
Got the bug.
joe rogan
Cult of the little white ball.
jamie vernon
LeBron got the bug.
Kevin Hart got the bug.
joe rogan
I saw Kevin Hart got the bug.
You motherfuckers.
Everyone's got that goddamn golfing bug.
brian redban
Kevin Hart?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I bet Red Band never gets that bug.
brian redban
No, I mean, fuck that shit.
joe rogan
It's never going to happen.
They'll never get you with that.
brian redban
I don't want that.
joe rogan
No.
Don't know if you get you.
brian redban
That sounds horrible.
joe rogan
They'll never get you with some outdoor activity.
unidentified
Fuck off.
brian redban
Fuck off.
It wouldn't be that.
Archery?
joe rogan
You want to do archery?
brian redban
I used to do archery in middle school.
jamie vernon
Well, when we open up Kanye watching this basketball game on a screen.
Can I get a perspective?
brian redban
What?
joe rogan
No way.
No way.
For real?
That's how he watches TV.
It's a 100-foot screen.
brian redban
That'd be cool.
jamie vernon
That's what I'm saying.
That's about it.
joe rogan
Is that all before the anti-Jew stuff when they killed his bank account?
brian redban
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is that like the panel things like where they put those panels in?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Bro, go back to that.
That's insane.
brian redban
Joe, get that for the studio so we can go watch.
joe rogan
That's insane.
You know, we're doing another studio at Circuit of the American.
brian redban
Circuit of America.
That is so awesome, dude.
That amusement park there looks so fucking good.
joe rogan
It's sick, dude.
It's sick.
They have great restaurants that are opening up there.
They have a fitness center there.
It's dope.
It's pretty dope.
And the track is incredible.
brian redban
Yeah, but is it going to be like traffic nightmare around there?
Because that area is already kind of a traffic nightmare around there.
Helicopter in.
joe rogan
It's not the best place to drive to sometimes.
Like, I went to see Garth Brooks there recently.
It was nuts.
So many people there.
I saw Eminem there.
That was nuts.
brian redban
Oh, you saw Eminem there?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Oh, damn.
I didn't even know he was there.
joe rogan
It was great.
It was great.
He looks good.
And he put on a very energetic show.
He still can flow fast.
It was really good.
It was a great show.
And who else do we see there?
Oh, Post Malone was there.
I saw Post Malone there a couple times.
I saw him when he did the, I think a couple times.
I saw him when he did the other time I saw him was in Dallas.
But he did the country music tour.
So he was doing mostly country, a lot of acoustic songs, a lot of acoustic guitars.
unidentified
Great.
brian redban
Post.
Here's a fun story about Posty.
When I met him, he met my fiancé, Janice, who's Asian, and he exchanged phone numbers with her.
And then I find out later how he's got the biggest Asian fetish out.
joe rogan
I don't know.
brian redban
And I'm like, and so Janice and him have text before.
I'm like, oh, no.
She calls him Posty as a joke just to piss me off.
unidentified
Like, oh, Postyve, what's can he just be a friend?
brian redban
He loves Asian girls more than me.
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
It is a thing.
Dudes who love Asian girls.
It becomes a thing.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know why, but it seems to stick.
brian redban
It's probably like Chung Li from Street Fighter as a kid, you know, seeing her in that little dress.
joe rogan
That can't be the only breathing.
That's ridiculous.
brian redban
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's interesting, though, right?
It becomes a type.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, I saw the stones there.
That was nuts.
That was nuts.
brian redban
So outdoor concert there.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, they have a huge stage, and the stones was like over 100,000 people were there for it.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Because it was also during Circuit of the Americas.
And it was bananas, man.
Like, you can't even believe you're seeing it.
So it was, it's so nuts.
It's one of those things where you're like, is that really Mick Jagger out there?
Like, this is, you know what I mean?
Like, some people attain a level of like legendary status that you can barely believe they're real when you see them in person.
That was what it was like.
They were great, man.
Like, put on a great fucking show at a thousand years old.
brian redban
Have you raced a car there?
Is that possible?
joe rogan
I've driven around.
I haven't raced anybody, but I've gone fast.
I want to go fast.
brian redban
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I took the, well, I've driven a few cars around there.
I drove my car, which is a GT3RS, a 2007 GT3RS.
I took that around the track.
I took a 4GT.
It's another car I have.
I took that around the track.
And then recently I drove, they have a new Corvette, the Corvette ZR1.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's 1,000 horsepower.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
A thousand horsepower Corvette.
It was bananas.
By far.
The best car I've ever driven.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
By far.
brian redban
You're going to get one?
joe rogan
100%.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
1,100,000%.
brian redban
Yeah, it looks sexy, too.
I love it.
joe rogan
No, dude, it's incredible.
It's incredible.
I mean, it's just like, it's so engineered, man.
Like, when you're driving around the track, we were going fast.
And this thing was just gripping.
Grip.
The handling is so balanced because it's a mid-engine car now.
You know, from the C8, the 8th version, like from Tony's on, is all like super balanced out now because the engine is in the middle of the car.
It's just like so planted.
brian redban
Is it better than a.
I mean, Porsche's have mid-engine cars too.
Is it better than Porsche?
joe rogan
Porsche's mid-engine cars are the Caymans and the Boxster.
Those are the mid-engine cars.
The other ones are rear-engine cars, which is a little more tricky.
Rear-engine cars, it's like when the ass end kicks out, you got to keep on the gas or the car will spin out on you.
It's a little different.
You know, like a lot of people don't, they like it because you can control that.
And once you get to control it, it can actually help you run the track.
That's why one of the fastest cars in the world around the Nuremberg Ring is the Porsche 911 GT3 RS, which is a rear-engine rear-wheel drive car.
And it's one of the fastest cars around the Nürburg Ring because when you know how to drive it, that weight balance can actually assist you, and they're just so well engineered.
But the Corvette's faster.
Yeah.
brian redban
It's 0 to 60.
joe rogan
Well, it's 060 is way faster.
It's a faster car.
It's a spaceship.
It's a nutty car.
I don't know if it's faster around the Nürburg ring.
Matter of fact, I don't think it is.
I think it's like a hair behind it, which is interesting because it's a lot more horsepower.
But that's also a professional race car driver drove the Porsche, and Corvette set its record for the fastest American car ever built around the Nuremberg Ring with a Corvette engineer.
Not even a professional race car driver.
And so professional race car drivers, like there's some guys on YouTube, they've looked at the footage because you can watch the dash cam footage.
They said, I could take about 10 seconds off this.
brian redban
Wow.
Which is more than a Model S plaid, though?
The new ones?
joe rogan
They're really fast, too, but they're not as fast around corners.
You know what I mean?
Like the Nuremberg Ring and a lot of these tracks, it's not just about how fast you go.
It's about what kind of suspension you have.
And the Model S plaid, in some ways, is limited by the width of the tires and the suspension.
It's a great car for driving regular streets.
But if you were going to do a car like that and take it on the track, you would do what I did with mine, the unplugged performance one.
So that's different.
That could probably go around a track faster than anything.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Because it has super wide tires.
It's a wider body because they add carbon fiber fenders, wider tires, and then like insane braking power.
Like that car's, that's a future car.
That car's from the future.
brian redban
That's sexy as fuck.
joe rogan
It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever driven.
Yeah.
Everything else I have, all the fast, supposedly fast cars, they're all pussy cars compared to that thing.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
That robot just Silent goes faster than all of them.
Faster handles incredible.
And it's really heavy.
Those are really heavy cars.
jamie vernon
I've never even seen that.
The Mercedes AG1 is the fastest on the Nureberg ring.
brian redban
Wow, that's sexy.
joe rogan
That's basically a race car.
jamie vernon
630.
It's a minute faster than the Tesla Plaid in 2023.
brian redban
What is that exhaust on the top?
joe rogan
Is that a you see?
That's the thing about a Tesla plaid.
730 used to be awesome.
Like when my GT3 RS came out, I think it was like 740.
A professional race car driver took it around the Nuremberg ring, which is kind of nuts.
But now I think the Corvette is under six, is under seven.
I think it's like 650.
Yeah, they had a what is the Corvette's time?
So number one is yeah, okay.
jamie vernon
649.
joe rogan
649.
That's crazy.
So that's a full minute almost faster than the GT3 RS that I have.
So look at that.
So below that, so it is faster than the GT3 RS, which is nuts.
Because the GT3RS and the GT2 RS have always been like the ones that everybody looks at.
jamie vernon
0.05.
joe rogan
Yeah, real close.
Real close.
But again, the Corvette is being driven by a guy who's an engineer.
The Porsche is being driven by a race car driver.
There is a difference.
Those engineers are awesome drivers, but that's like, you know, you play basketball in college, you're really good.
Now you have to play against LeBron.
There's a difference.
brian redban
And it's also pre-production, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then there's the GT2 RS, the Manthe.
So what Manthe is, it's like a performance company.
They take a regular GT2, which is a nutty car.
It's a turbocharged GT3 RS, essentially.
And it's got more than 700 horsepower.
It's an insane car.
So that's a little faster.
But the regular GT2 RS is not as fast around the so that's an MR. That's another modified vehicle.
It's another company.
That's a GT3 RS, but then GT2 RS is what I'm asking about.
So there's the GTD.
That's the Ford Mustang.
That's the new crazy Mustang that they just came out with.
These are nutty numbers, man.
Like off the charts, insane numbers.
And they're going to get faster and faster.
When Elon's here, he was trying to tell me, without telling me, how insane his little sportster car, whatever it's called, the Roadster.
brian redban
Oh, the Bigfoot.
joe rogan
Whatever that thing is going to be.
Roadster.
unidentified
Bigfoot.
Yeah.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
But he said they're going to have a product demonstration sometime in the beginning of the year.
He said January, February.
brian redban
They had that 13 years ago, too.
I mean, I wish he would bring that out.
God, that's like the deposit down there.
A lot.
And a lot of people have canceled their deposits.
joe rogan
Including Sam Altman.
brian redban
Yeah.
Yeah, MK did recently also.
I mean, I don't understand what the problem is.
Like, why not just release one?
joe rogan
I mean, because you can't.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because you're busy.
brian redban
Yeah, but he's releasing.
He's got records to make.
joe rogan
He doesn't have the time.
brian redban
I like my Hummer.
That's my favorite car.
jamie vernon
What's up?
From the time he's been here, they've already pushed it back to April 1st now.
joe rogan
Oh, for the demonstration.
jamie vernon
Three days ago.
joe rogan
Oh, so, okay, so 2027.
brian redban
We're going to get this before.
unidentified
Tesla delays reveal of production roadster.
brian redban
It's April Fool's Day.
unidentified
April Fool's Day.
brian redban
It's not fucking with everybody.
joe rogan
That's funny.
Come on, that's funny.
brian redban
It's definitely funny.
joe rogan
That's actually funny.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Let me see the image again.
Gives him some deniability.
Bro.
If that thing does come out, though, that's going to be so much fun.
That's zero to 60 and some stupid number.
Because the Tesla plaid, my car does it in 1.9.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
1.9.
brian redban
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know what that's going to do it in, but it's probably going to be like 1.4 or something insane, which is one second.
It's basically a second.
brian redban
My Hummer does in 2.8.
That's scary as fuck, dude.
And the whole front goes up like a boat.
You're just looking at the sky.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Are they having a hard time selling those?
brian redban
Yeah.
100%.
Why?
They're really cool.
I think it's just, I don't know, man.
It's just, it's expensive.
It's a very expensive car.
And, you know.
joe rogan
You're always ranting about it, though.
unidentified
You love it.
brian redban
It's my favorite car.
And it's just ridiculous that it's so much fun to drive.
It's the funnest car I've ever drove.
And little things like that, where you go fast and the whole thing goes up like a boat.
It's so hilarious.
They just released Super Crab Walk also, just like an update where it's even more ridiculous, like where you could just drive sideways kind of.
joe rogan
Super crab walk.
brian redban
Yeah.
It's fun, dude.
You should borrow my car sometimes and go out.
Like, it's fucking hilarious.
It's fucking awesome.
joe rogan
Have you been in a Cybertruck yet?
brian redban
I have, but I haven't driven one.
And, you know, that's something I canceled my reservation for.
That's why I got the Hummer.
But I got that tick.
Like, I kind of want it still, but I don't know.
joe rogan
If you did it, you should put cat stickers all over it.
brian redban
Cat stickers, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Like, put your death squad cat.
brian redban
Yeah, like wrap it and stuff.
joe rogan
I would people would definitely fuck with it.
brian redban
Yeah, I can't do that.
joe rogan
Dudes would piss all over your car or something.
brian redban
Right.
Like, I wanted to get red band as my license plate, and it was like available.
I was like, I can't do that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
But that'd be cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Asking to get stalked.
brian redban
Like, I roast, you know, be like that.
joe rogan
That was back when Tony wanted attention.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Now he's hiding.
Hey, I'm hiding.
brian redban
I'm hiding.
joe rogan
Now he's got tinted windows.
When you like, maybe you can put red band in like a code.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That would actually be more fun.
brian redban
I almost said what my license plate is.
I mean, I kind of did.
Did you?
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a douche move, right?
Having a, like, I've never had, I had one December 2012, 2012.
That was the end of the mind calendar.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
That's right.
You did have that.
joe rogan
What if that really did, like, we're going to look back and that's when something happened and we just didn't realize something had happened?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like there's some technological breakthrough.
They're going to point back to December 21st, 2012.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're going to say, oh, that's when everything went weird.
brian redban
100%.
joe rogan
Probably, right?
brian redban
Yeah, that and COVID.
We got two updates during those two times.
joe rogan
COVID was the big one.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I had someone trying to tell me it was the most painful conversation that every time your nose got swabbed during COVID, they put micro particles in your body and they can turn them on or off and make you tired or make you like, what?
Why am I having this conversation?
brian redban
Did you go to the next one?
joe rogan
Have you researched this?
Have you researched this?
Like, what are you talking about?
I was like, this is the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life.
Like, everybody's got it.
And 90% of the people on the planet have these things in their body and they can just turn them on and turn them off.
Okay, what?
Where is this technology coming from?
Where do they have?
You know how many steps have to be taken before they inject stuff into people?
They have to be sure that it works.
brian redban
Yeah.
Did you see Kim Kardashian doesn't believe we went to the moon?
Have you been watching?
joe rogan
I've been watching the show.
We're dropping knowledge on Kim.
Old Kim's catching it.
brian redban
It's funny watching her be in the dash.
joe rogan
Catching it.
Old Kim's getting red pilled.
Yeah.
brian redban
That's great.
Bro.
joe rogan
When you watch Richard Nixon having a conversation with the guys, congratulations, boys, you're on the moon.
He's got a phone.
He's got a landline.
He's calling the guys on the moon.
Shut the fuck up.
unidentified
Just shut your fucking hole.
joe rogan
There is no way that phone is connected to anybody other than another phone.
brian redban
Yeah.
I didn't even know about the phone thing.
That's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Well, that's one of the things that Gus Grisham complained about.
He hung a lemon.
I put a lemon on a coat hanger and hung it on the lunar module because they couldn't communicate with the people that were in the command center.
They were all trying to communicate, and he was pissed off.
It wasn't working, so he put a lemon in it.
He hung it on the door.
And that's the dark, dark conspiracy because he burned to death inside that thing.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, and his family thinks that they murdered him because he wasn't willing to go along with the moon hoax.
He was supposed to be the original pilot.
Yeah.
brian redban
Did you follow that conspiracy there?
All the Challenger astronauts are still alive.
Have you been following that?
joe rogan
I've seen that.
unidentified
I love that one.
joe rogan
You want to know what's not a conspiracy that Elon told us?
If they made the Challenger out of steel instead of aluminum, it wouldn't have burnt up like that.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's what he said.
He said it was about the tiles.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Isn't that nuts?
brian redban
Yeah, because that's how it happened.
joe rogan
The tiles break off.
Yeah.
But aluminum just heats up too fast and disintegrates and falls apart.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's why he uses steel.
Like those things are all the spaceships that he's making.
brian redban
Does he cast them like he does his cars?
I wonder.
Like, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
I can't say how they do it.
I don't think.
I don't think we could say, right?
brian redban
All right, don't tell me.
I don't care.
joe rogan
I don't think we should say.
But it's steel.
I'll tell you, it's steel.
unidentified
Steel.
joe rogan
It's crazy looking, man.
When you see them in person, you're like, Yeah, that's a trip.
It's like, it's literally like you're inside of the Death Star and you're looking at some spaceship that they're constructing.
Or you're, you know, with the Resistance or whoever Luke Skywalker was with.
It's weird, man.
It's weird because these are spaceships.
They're going to go into space and eventually, supposedly, go to Mars.
brian redban
I'm good.
You're not going to go.
No.
Fuck that.
joe rogan
I'm not going.
But if you had a choice between Earth is going to be hit by the biggest asteroid that's ever impacted Earth in five years.
There's no way we're going to avoid it.
And we figured out a way to grow food on Mars.
Who's in?
I might go to Mars.
brian redban
Then I'll go.
But I want to be passed out like my colonoscopy where I just wake up and I'm like, oh, I'm here.
joe rogan
Could you imagine watching from Mars when Earth gets hit with an asteroid?
You watch it in real time.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
You see this big flash in the sky and like a quarter of Earth looks like it's on fire.
brian redban
God.
Bro.
That'd be intense.
joe rogan
Bro.
Imagine being on the surface of Mars watching Earth get destroyed.
Going, oh boy, we've got to make the most of this.
jamie vernon
If I could barely see it, wouldn't you?
joe rogan
You have telescopes and shit.
jamie vernon
We can barely see it.
joe rogan
Well, with your eyes, you mean?
With your eyes, you could barely see.
brian redban
And wouldn't it be like years later that you would see it?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
It'll be a few seconds later.
Right.
But if you were using a telescope, you'd definitely be able to see it.
But with the naked eye, it'd be a little tiny dot.
Because it's only Mars is only like, what, three-quarters the size of Earth?
How big is Mars in relationship to the size of Earth?
And you can barely see Mars, right?
So Earth would only be like a slight bit bigger.
brian redban
And then going back to Earth after to see it would be crazy.
joe rogan
Just watch cannibals.
Just all people looking up at you over rib cages, wearing human skin.
That's probably what people are like after the asteroids impacted.
You know, the people that have survived these big, huge extinction events.
Okay.
Oh, it's a lot smaller than Earth.
It's half the size, basically.
Almost a little bit more than half the size.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
So we could barely see that.
So you could probably barely, barely see Earth too.
You know, Terrence Howard has the craziest idea about planets.
He, and again, I don't know if he's right, but it's fun.
He thinks that planets are made out of chunks of stuff that gets ejected from the sun and eventually gravity, coal, and as it moves further and further away from the sun, it gets to the point where it can support life.
And he said, you probably experienced that all over the cosmos.
It's probably like peopling, like things get to a stage where it could support life, and then life exists for long enough where intelligent life develops.
And that happens all over the cosmos.
That's his thought.
And then maybe these people that we see when you meet aliens, maybe that's future versions of people.
And that peopling is a natural thing.
Just like, you know, you grow crops.
You know, oh, the crops are fruiting.
We're going to get apples.
We're going to go pick apples today because the tree lived long enough.
The seeds planted long enough.
Now it grows fruit.
Now you can go eat your apples.
Imagine we're just a farm, just a people farm.
That makes sense.
Everyone's saying, no, that doesn't make any sense.
Listen, nothing about this world makes sense.
Fucking literally nothing.
Nothing about life makes sense.
It's all very strange.
And you don't think it's possible that this is a stage on the way to becoming some new kind of life form and that has happened already somewhere else and they come to visit to make sure we're okay.
Of course that's possible.
brian redban
I'm leaning more towards simulation theory more and more the older I get.
joe rogan
Yeah?
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
For real, for real?
brian redban
100 or 100%.
joe rogan
All right.
Why?
What's your argument for why the simulation theory is real?
brian redban
Because you can kind of see right now the idea.
Like look at AI chatbots or look at AI talking to AI.
You could already kind of see artificial intelligence now, like baby version of it.
Imagine 100 years from now.
Imagine thousands of years ago and we are the AI, you know.
I just see that that just seems like it makes sense.
That we're aliens created us as AI, you know, in this fake world.
And they're just.
joe rogan
So this is just a program running.
brian redban
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's a fun one.
joe rogan
Let's talk about that stupid quantum computer.
Okay, what is that?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
So if that thing can do that, if it could run a calculation that would take every computer on Earth 2.6 billion years to solve, and it could do it in a few minutes, what kind of rendering can that thing do?
You know, like what kind of experience can that thing provide to my simple monkey neurons?
What, you know, I wear a headset and it creates, like, you were telling me about those weird online games where they're never ending.
We're like, you explore space and there's like universes, but there's no end to the game.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
You just go places and see things and you can go to a new place and see a new thing.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
And it's like constantly rendering a new version of it.
Like, well, what's that?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
What is that?
And now you add a bunch of variables like life forms, this, and natural disasters, and ideological capture and all this different shit and trannies in the women's room.
All that stuff, like add that to it, and all the chaos of war and a fucking, you know, Samsung can't get their shit together.
Like all that, put it all together, like to keep you confused and chaotic.
And like you're guessing constantly.
Everything's madness.
Like this is, that's how I would make a simulation.
I would make a simulation that's fucking completely bananas.
Some old guy gets shot in the ear, jumps up and goes, fight, fight, fight.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Crazy stuff.
The nuttier the better.
The weirder the better.
I want a communist running New York City.
Run it.
Run that program.
Let's go.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
And all these rich kids are going to be supporting him.
Yay.
So, shall that.
Run that program.
All of it.
Yeah.
Run it.
brian redban
And we get upgraded when we sleep at night.
Maybe.
joe rogan
It's just one of those things.
It's like we realize that we're building towards an event.
Like, human civilization clearly seems to be building towards an event.
There's like the military stuff, the Ukraine, Russia stuff, the Gaza, Palestine, Israel stuff.
But it's also the technology war.
It's like building towards an event and how that event plays out.
I don't know.
And I think everyone's got a little bit of anxiety about that.
You know?
But at least they're letting the climate change, we're going to die shit go.
Bill Gates was like the first, he sounded the first alarm.
Actually, we're going to be fine.
Did you see he said that recently?
brian redban
Bill Gates said that?
joe rogan
Yes.
Yes.
Bill Gates, the Pied Piper of We're All Gonna Die.
The guy, literally the Paul Revere of We're gonna die, is now we're gonna be okay.
We're gonna be fine.
So they're letting that go.
So if they're letting that go, okay, good.
At least you can relax in that front.
So what do we have to be anxious about now?
What dilemmas is the simulation providing us that are gonna keep us distracted as we build towards an event?
I think the real event involves AI.
I think that's the real event.
I think all this other stuff, the climate change stuff.
brian redban
And isn't it kind of weird, too, that AI literally came to us overnight?
It wasn't like we saw baby versions of AI.
It just seemed like, oh, one day we all have AI.
Like we have artificial, you know, all this.
It came out of nowhere.
joe rogan
I mean, when was ChatGPT, or excuse me, when was OpenAI funded?
When was it founded?
What was the...
brian redban
Yeah, I don't know.
Let's guess.
2017.
joe rogan
I was going to say the same thing.
brian redban
Are you serious?
joe rogan
Yeah, I was going to say so.
I was going to say 16.
I was like, nah, 17.
brian redban
7.
joe rogan
But it might be 15, right?
brian redban
What?
joe rogan
Was it?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
15?
Yeah, so 10 years ago, these motherfuckers knew that eventually we're going to figure that thing out.
And then also, they were probably the first people that were collecting data, right?
And realizing that data is a commodity.
Well, it's also a commodity in that this data allows people to use their artificial intelligence and create things, which is essentially on the back of artists, right?
Like digital artists.
And like a lot of these people that make stuff with their hands that have a distinctive art style.
Like you can tell it, make me a painting of a dog and a young boy in the style of Picasso during a very particular time period of his life.
And it'll like that.
But it's doing it off of Picasso's work.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Right?
brian redban
Yeah.
So it's trained on.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like if you say make me a Frank Frazetta of Conan the Barbarian that's never been seen.
Let's do it.
brian redban
Did you do that?
Yeah, that's how you do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's put that into perplexity.
brian redban
Yeah, and have it.
joe rogan
It doesn't do images?
jamie vernon
I don't think so.
joe rogan
All right.
brian redban
That's an issue.
Make credit Thornton Board have big boobs then.
joe rogan
All right.
When you use AI, like what pro you are you using programs that do deep fakes?
Are you using programs that do video generation?
Are you using Sora?
brian redban
I use Sora all the time.
joe rogan
Is it the best one for videos, right?
brian redban
They all, it kind of sucks.
Sometimes swords were the best.
Other times, Grok's great.
I mean, every day I'm going to try to go back and forth between them too.
But I would say Sword is probably the best one right now.
But then next week, some other one will come out, you know, and be better.
So I'm always jumping around.
joe rogan
Brett Weinstein was explaining something really interesting about NVIDIA and a lot of these companies that make video cards.
That their design of these video cards is uniquely good for AI generation.
And that's why they're so huge now.
Like these companies are bigger than any other company.
jamie vernon
I asked it to do it.
There you go.
joe rogan
Okay.
unidentified
Wow.
brian redban
That looks good.
jamie vernon
I don't know if that is that.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
brian redban
No, that's from like Cobra Commander's thing or something like that.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
That looks okay.
jamie vernon
Stand corrected.
joe rogan
So tell it, tell Perplexity to make him look older and more scarred and vulnerable.
Well, no, he was always mean, more scarred.
Okay.
I think they're doing it based on Arnold Schwarzenegger.
brian redban
Oh.
joe rogan
Because the hair was lighter, and Conan's hair was like jet black in the books.
Oh, look how it generates.
brian redban
I like that.
joe rogan
This is weird.
brian redban
Cool.
joe rogan
Make him look older and more scarred.
brian redban
Oh, that's so cool.
joe rogan
Oh, get a little.
Oh, that's cool.
Oh, my God.
They fucking nailed it.
brian redban
That's perfect.
joe rogan
Holy shit, dude.
That's incredible.
jamie vernon
Did it even fake sign?
joe rogan
What's that?
jamie vernon
Fake signature.
brian redban
Oh, wow.
That's cool.
joe rogan
What is the signature?
jamie vernon
You can't.
It's an eligible.
It doesn't look like it's anything.
joe rogan
Whoa.
brian redban
He's wearing uppoots.
joe rogan
That's the kind of boots they wore back then.
Damn, that's pretty fucking good.
brian redban
And the dragon has dirty skeletons.
joe rogan
Okay.
Now make him in a scene where he's fighting armed skeletons.
unidentified
Ooh.
Dun, dun, dun, dun.
joe rogan
So we're going to have the old dude with the scars fighting skeletons.
We're 12.
brian redban
Now animate it.
You know, that's cool.
joe rogan
Now give him a big old hog.
Big old floppy.
unidentified
Oh, whoa.
joe rogan
Whoa.
unidentified
What happened to his hair?
brian redban
He's getting older.
That's Arnold Swear.
unidentified
That's a big color.
joe rogan
That's weird.
That's not Conan.
Okay.
Give him good, but give him long black hair.
brian redban
And pouty lips.
unidentified
Put pouty lips just to see that.
joe rogan
Give him hair to jet black and longer.
unidentified
All right, here we go.
brian redban
Put him in pigtails.
joe rogan
It's wild how this thing can just do this.
brian redban
I love this shit.
This is all.
I mean, I just do this for hours.
joe rogan
All it takes is a prompt, and you can do it with your voice.
You don't even have to do it by typing it in, which is really nuts.
unidentified
um that's better That's better.
joe rogan
Still a little longer with the hair.
The hair needs to be a little longer, but that's okay.
brian redban
And that looks like he dyed it black, like just for mend it, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, but they took away the weapons from the skeletons.
They don't look skeletons having that battle axe.
Look, they edited that out.
Yeah, that's make the skeletons heavily armed with armor and helmets, swords and shields.
With armor and helmets, swords and shields.
Why'd I say swords?
brian redban
Swords.
joe rogan
I said it like it's spelled.
brian redban
That's your Boston in you.
He's got his swords.
joe rogan
He's got a sword.
Run, Paulie.
He's going to get you.
unidentified
He's got his sword.
brian redban
Oh, I like how it does it.
unidentified
Oh, pretty dope.
joe rogan
That's pretty fucking dope.
Although, where's the blood on the sword coming from if they're all skeletons?
unidentified
True.
joe rogan
Issue.
That's an issue.
That's pretty fucking good, though, dude.
It's a little different than Frisetta's style.
Okay, now say, make it more like Frizzetta's paintings because it's a little too detailed.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Make it more like Frisetta's skeletons are bullshit, though.
brian redban
Paintings.
They would just, all their bones would fall on the ground.
There's no muscles.
joe rogan
There's nothing to stop the blade.
But they're all coming at you.
There's so many of them.
They're coming at you from everywhere.
You know, you have to scary.
There's a zombie inside the skeleton, a zombie brain.
Yeah, they have no muscle.
unidentified
You kick their ass.
joe rogan
Fuck off, bitch.
brian redban
They be a pile.
I don't like his pose.
And what's that?
A bomb on the ground?
Like a World War II bomb?
joe rogan
Yeah, what is that?
unidentified
What's that?
brian redban
It's like a vibrator.
That's a Hitachi.
joe rogan
What is that big robot dick on the ground?
Big old red rocket.
I kind of like how they've got the skeletons have shields now.
brian redban
Now that's cool.
joe rogan
That looks pretty dope.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No one still to this day, I would love to talk Quentin Tarantino into doing it for his last film.
No one to this day has done a really good Conan movie.
Like the books.
brian redban
That's true.
unidentified
Have you ever read the books?
brian redban
Long time ago.
I used to be really in that in the Death Dealer, or was it Death Dealer?
Is that what his name is?
joe rogan
Death Dealer?
unidentified
Yeah, I think.
brian redban
Oh, man.
The guy with the big horns.
The black death dealer, right?
unidentified
Is that what it's called?
brian redban
I used to mean that, too.
unidentified
Who's got the horns?
brian redban
I think it's called The Death Dealer.
It is a Death Dealer?
Yeah, that guy.
Oh, that's the fourth picture right there.
Where he's on the next to it.
To the right.
joe rogan
So it's basically a ripoff.
brian redban
Yeah, that was really into those books.
jamie vernon
Unless someone made that up.
brian redban
No, it is.
That's Frank Frisetta, also.
joe rogan
Go to that.
brian redban
Yeah, that's him.
Dude, that was my favorite song.
joe rogan
He's one of Frisetta's best paintings.
brian redban
Really?
Yeah, that's the Death Dealer.
I used to read those books.
joe rogan
I didn't know there were books.
brian redban
Yeah, I was obsessed with The Death Dealer.
joe rogan
What is the book about?
brian redban
I don't remember anymore, man.
It was badass, though.
I used to.
joe rogan
The Death Dealer.
Actually, Frank Fizzetta's Volume 3, The Death Dealer.
brian redban
Yeah, that was my favorite one.
joe rogan
That was my favorite book right there.
brian redban
Second one.
Yep.
joe rogan
So what does he just go around fucking killing people?
brian redban
He was a badass.
I think he was dead, too, if I remember.
I don't remember.
joe rogan
See if you can go and find out what it looks like inside of it.
jamie vernon
Inside of what?
joe rogan
Inside of that book.
Like, is it a.
It's a graphic novel, right?
brian redban
No, no, it's a book book.
joe rogan
It's a book book.
unidentified
A book book.
Oh.
brian redban
Yeah.
And then I've read that before I read Conan, and that's how I got into Conan because I was like, wait, who's Conan?
Yeah.
joe rogan
So who wrote that?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's not Robert E. Howard, right?
jamie vernon
James Silk.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
So he based it on a Frisetta painting and made.
Okay.
Okay.
So Frisetta, though, was the Conan books were in the 30s.
brian redban
Were they?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Oh, I didn't know it was that old.
joe rogan
It's really old.
unidentified
Wow.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Robert E. Howard.
He lived with his mom.
He was super depressed and wound up killing himself.
And he wrote about like the most badass motherfucker that he wished he was.
Living in a time where there's sorcerers and dragons.
brian redban
Have you been to Conan's Pizza here in Austin?
joe rogan
Is it related?
brian redban
It's all Conan.
Conan shit.
Walk in, it's all Conan shit.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
You would love it, dude.
joe rogan
How's the pizza?
brian redban
I haven't had it.
I haven't been there yet, but it looks badass.
I saw it on TikTok, and it's just like a Conan's fans dream.
joe rogan
Super nerd.
brian redban
Yeah, it's just everywhere.
joe rogan
Oh, it's all Frazetta stuff on the wall.
unidentified
Everywhere.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
What a great idea.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a good way to keep chicks out.
brian redban
Yeah, look at the table.
joe rogan
It's all we're not going to.
Yeah, hard seats and Conan paintings.
That's how you keep chicks out.
We are not going to see those fucking gay paintings.
brian redban
I'm going to go there though.
joe rogan
Why do you like those fucking gay paintings?
brian redban
They're the most coolest paintings on the rock.
joe rogan
They are.
brian redban
They are.
joe rogan
But I don't think that I don't think women have the same opinion.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did you get a guess?
brian redban
I don't know.
I mean, I was into Red Sonia too, but girls hate Red Sonia.
Because she's too hot.
joe rogan
She's got big old titties.
She fucks everybody up.
Yeah, she's too hot.
brian redban
Red Sonia versus Conan.
joe rogan
Isn't it weird that that genre caught fire?
Like the genre of fantasy, like medieval fantasy, like chain mail, like iron, big swords, helmets, and then monsters, witches, and warlocks.
And like, what is that?
Like, why did that, why the barbarian era?
Why was that so interesting to people?
brian redban
Muscles.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like for Robert E. Howard, because he's living this bullshit soft life, living in his mom's house.
Yeah.
Can't get any pussy.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
I'm such a loser.
You know?
Writing these books about a guy who's the ultimate just a destroyer.
Covered in scars.
Kills everybody.
Kills all the monsters.
Never loses.
Fuck yeah.
Comes close to losing a couple times.
unidentified
Never loses.
brian redban
Would you want Honor Schwarzenegger to play Conan again if he no?
What about his son?
I think his son.
joe rogan
No, it's the best Conan of all time.
Like, how many, first of all, how many Conan's have there been?
brian redban
Three?
Two?
Three.
unidentified
Movies?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
I think two or three.
jamie vernon
82, 2011, 2025.
That's not right.
joe rogan
2011.
Which one was 2011?
Who starred as Conan in the 2011 one?
jamie vernon
That was a weird way to see it.
unidentified
Hold on a second.
jamie vernon
I have a TV show this way.
Yeah, I guess.
2000 Jason Momoa.
joe rogan
Okay, that was 2011?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why did I think that was earlier than that?
Okay.
This one, in my opinion, Momoa, was the best Conan.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
So how many of them are there other than that?
There's the Red Sonia, and there's just the Arnold ones, but nobody else did it other than Arnold.
Did they ever do one?
Those are animated.
But did anybody ever do one other than Arnold and Jason Momoa?
brian redban
I don't think so.
joe rogan
Okay.
There was a TV show.
What?
jamie vernon
97, 98.
joe rogan
That's got to be animated, though.
Isn't it?
It has to be.
brian redban
No.
It's not?
Wow, that looks.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
Wait, this is around the time of Xeno Warrior Princess.
joe rogan
Oh, I remember this.
brian redban
I remember that too.
joe rogan
I remember this.
It wasn't bad.
He was more realistic as Conan than Arnold was because Arnold just looked like a straight-up bodybuilder.
But Jason Momoa, see if you can find an image of Jason Momoa as Conan.
He looked fucking terrifying.
He looked like the most legitimate version of Conan.
brian redban
He's a cool idea, man.
I like Jason.
joe rogan
Is there any images of him in there?
There he is.
That's probably what Conan would have looked like.
Big dude, but not a bodybuilder, covered in scars.
I mean, tough to stay alive back then.
brian redban
Was that movie good?
I don't remember seeing.
This was the one that was 3D, right?
joe rogan
It was a terrible movie.
It was terrible.
But it could have been good.
It started off good.
It started off.
I was like, oh, shit, this is the best version of Conan ever.
It was it.
Someone needs to make it like the books, you know?
brian redban
Yeah.
That's hard to do.
joe rogan
It's just to read.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ain't nobody reading no more.
I wonder how much TikTok has killed the book industry.
Is it different people?
brian redban
Yeah, that's different.
That's different people.
joe rogan
But I mean, how much has social media in general dropped the amount of people that read books?
brian redban
Well, I mean, I do so much reading from websites and Twitter and shit like that nowadays that if I was into books, I could see myself not reading as much because I'm reading all day already, you know.
joe rogan
Do you find yourself using that phone because it's got a bigger screen more to watch stuff and read stuff?
brian redban
I use my lately.
I've been using my Apple Vision Pro the most just to watch movies and TikTok.
joe rogan
Dork.
brian redban
Dude, you're a real dork.
joe rogan
You're TikToking on an Apple Vision Pro.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
You're in there with them?
brian redban
I don't do that.
jamie vernon
I watch a movie on it.
brian redban
Yeah.
It's the best way to see a movie.
jamie vernon
It's awesome.
joe rogan
Is it the best way to see a movie?
jamie vernon
Better than watch it on your TV.
brian redban
Yep.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
Better than going to a movie theater.
jamie vernon
It's clear than watching it on your TV.
brian redban
Really?
And if you're into 3D, best 3D you can ever get, better than any movie theater.
joe rogan
And do you have to stay plugged in while you have it on, or can the battery last all throughout a whole movie?
brian redban
The new one lasts three hours, so you know, most movies, but I just have my MacBook charger hooked up to it.
joe rogan
Oh, so you can keep it plugged?
brian redban
Yeah, I'm just laying.
I'm just laying on the couch, you know, 500-inch screen on my ceiling, you know, and have like maybe an app on the side, like, you know, message app or something.
Hey, I know.
I guarantee you, do you?
Do they have that?
You can watch, yeah, all that stuff.
joe rogan
You can watch porn.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
You can watch 3D porn.
joe rogan
Boy, that's a problem.
Porn as big as like a jumbo truck.
brian redban
Yeah, I don't want it.
unidentified
I don't need that.
brian redban
I don't need to see that.
I don't want that.
And it's cool because if you hit record on it, you can just go up to your dog, go up to Marshall and go, and then you can watch Marshall in 3D.
It's so cool.
And it's like the best way to look at photos.
And the new one is just so nice, dude.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
How come it hasn't really caught on?
brian redban
Because of the price.
It's so expensive.
I just got the new Samsung one.
Samsung just released their vision of the Apple Vision Pro, and it's half the price.
What is it called?
XR, Samsung Galaxy XR, I think it's called.
And it's just like the Apple Vision Pro.
It's a little bit not as good.
But if you don't have the Apple Vision Pro, that's good for the price.
That's a good alternative.
And it does the same shit.
joe rogan
Watch movies.
Right.
brian redban
But the only problem is that I just got to see how good it was.
And if you have the Apple Vision Pro going to that, it's like going backwards.
joe rogan
How much backwards?
brian redban
I'd say like 30% backwards.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
In quality or in quality.
brian redban
In quality.
But it also just came out.
So, you know, there's a lot of bugs and things they can fix.
But there's also like the pass-through.
I mean, the pass-through on the Apple Vision Pro is almost like perfect.
You can drive, you can look at your text through it.
joe rogan
Do you drive with it on?
brian redban
You could.
joe rogan
Do you drive with the program?
brian redban
No, I don't do it.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm not driving with an Apple Vision Pro Psycho.
brian redban
No, I don't.
But you could.
You could.
joe rogan
Well, if you saw the Palmer Lucky stuff where he has these goggles that you put on with the headset, and you've seen the demonstration, right?
So imagine something like that for the world where every car has a camera and everybody knows where the accident is and everybody knows what's happening.
So even if you're on like self-drive, if you're driving yourself, you'd be alerted of things like way in advance of what's happening.
brian redban
Yeah, well, it should be on your windshield, though.
Like, you know, like the display, like I love that shit.
Where you're driving, you have a little speed thing pop up.
joe rogan
You can see into cars and see people getting roadhead.
Yeah.
You can see like an outline of someone's head bobbing up and down someone's lap.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
The next step in the invasion of your privacy.
brian redban
Yeah.
Totally.
joe rogan
So Vision Pro has been around, what, two years?
brian redban
Two years now.
joe rogan
That's weird that Apple got ahead of everybody else.
That's unfortunate.
brian redban
That's the first time, right?
It's the first time.
joe rogan
But they did have to have a giant brick of a battery to do that.
brian redban
The Samsung has it too.
You still have to.
joe rogan
How big is the Samsung?
Like a laptop brick?
brian redban
It's about the size of the phone right here, like a phone.
And it's not a big problem because you usually just have it on the couch and just have a wire hooked up to it.
joe rogan
How heavy is the one on Apple?
Is it the size of a phone or is it bigger?
brian redban
It's about the size of the phone.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
brian redban
It's a little smaller and it's not too heavy, but it's not like you hold it or anything.
joe rogan
I thought it was like one of those things that comes with a laptop, like those fucking bricks that come that way charging bricks.
brian redban
Yeah.
I mean, I would say it's about the size of a normal phone.
It's a little smaller than this, I guess.
And each one lasts like three hours.
And then, you know, I have two, so I can just unplug it.
joe rogan
But you've got to watch Kill Tony on it.
brian redban
I've watched Kill Tony on it.
Yeah.
It's fun watching YouTube and TikToks on it.
joe rogan
So it's like a giant screen.
brian redban
Sometimes I edit on it.
Like if I'm editing Kill Tony, I'll just put that on and then have an IMAX movie theater that I'm editing on.
So it's great.
Like if I'm on an airplane or something, I could sit there and have like five screens.
It's cool.
It's great for airplanes too.
If you just want to sit there and watch movies and shit like that.
joe rogan
Right.
Instead of just staring at a laptop straight.
And then everyone going, when are you watching?
unidentified
Right.
brian redban
And you can watch it.
joe rogan
The original blade runner.
That's the best one.
brian redban
Dude.
And you sit there and watch porn and no one will even know.
unidentified
They'll know when you're dick or something.
brian redban
Well, you put your little tray down over it.
joe rogan
You got to be a special kind of fucking creep to be jacking off on a plane with a bunch of people.
brian redban
Yeah, I don't get that.
joe rogan
Some people just want to get caught.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people out there that's part of the thrill.
I'm a naughty boy.
brian redban
Yeah.
unidentified
I got a blanket over my head because I can't sleep and the blanket just happens to be moving like this.
brian redban
Yeah, we used to have a problem when I was the manager of a movie theater of this guy that would come in and it was an old black guy and he looked like a professor or something like that, shirt tucked in.
He always have a newspaper under his arm and he would just sit in the movie theater like a couple rows behind somebody, put the newspaper on his lap and just jerk off.
And we caught him maybe six times.
We banned him.
And then when I switched movie theater, like I became a manager of another company in a different part of town, he was there too.
Like I was like, oh, you guys got this guy here too?
Like he just went to movie theaters and masturbated and got caught all the time.
Like I had to tell him three multiple times, dude, you're banned here.
Get out of here.
I should have called the police looking back at it.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
That's his sport.
Some people play chess.
unidentified
That guy just jacks off in movie theaters and tries to get caught.
brian redban
Yeah.
And got caught.
joe rogan
I'm a naughty boy.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
I'm so naughty.
brian redban
I did it again.
joe rogan
I came with you.
I did it again.
brian redban
And if you saw him, he'd look like a teacher.
He looks so professional back on.
joe rogan
He watches jacking off in the movie theater.
He's probably buttoned down all day long at his job.
Has to be proper.
But really, he's a naughty, naughty.
Naughty boy.
Wants to go whack off in a theater.
That's a weird thing with dudes who want to be naughty.
You know?
You have a really sick girl to be fingering yourself in a movie theater by yourself.
You're a nut.
brian redban
I mean, it sounds like a good girl to me.
I like it.
joe rogan
Right, but that's not like something that happens often, I bet.
I bet if it's like the amount of people that get caught whacking off in public, it's got to be like 99% men.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many women are by themselves just playing with themselves?
You're probably already in a hospital if that's you doing that, you know?
You're not like a functional member of society like that guy, dressed like a professor, fingering yourself.
brian redban
I like to think there's a lot more.
A boy can dream.
joe rogan
Can't a boy dream.
Yeah, if you wanted to guess the percentages, though.
brian redban
Yeah, definitely guys more than girls.
joe rogan
Way more.
brian redban
Yeah, I'd say probably 75, 25.
joe rogan
100%.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I bet there's no women who've ever been caught masturbating publicly.
brian redban
No, there's that famous video that was on TikTok recently about a girl masturbating at a beach or something that just came out.
joe rogan
Did she get in trouble?
brian redban
Yeah, she could, it was like a body camera.
joe rogan
Real, like, you sure there were real cops?
It might be just a video that they made.
There's a bunch of those where you see like someone getting harassed by a cop and they're like, this seems like acting.
And then you try to look for the case online.
It doesn't exist.
Like, this is bullshit.
Because before AI, there was a lot of people that were just pretending to make viral videos.
Like, pretend arguments, pretend fights, pretend cop encounters, like, you know, chess cam cop footage.
That's bullshit.
brian redban
Yeah.
Because a lot of that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So maybe that's bullshit too.
I don't know.
brian redban
Who knows?
unidentified
Maybe she's not really playing with herself on the beach.
brian redban
She's got some sand in there.
joe rogan
All those little kids and their shovels.
unidentified
Come shovel mommy sand.
joe rogan
Getting all swampy and mommy.
Oh, like an ocean's leaking in.
That's a dude activity.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like public masturbation.
Like, that's a particularly broken woman who wants to play with herself at the beach in front of everybody.
Like, you have to be like just out of jail.
Like, out of your fucking mind.
Like, they must be looking for you already.
Like, by the time you're fingering yourself in front of the ocean.
jamie vernon
Like, if they go into a room, they can just charge money for it.
joe rogan
That's true.
That's true.
You probably can, but only guys are going to pay for it.
You're going to have all these ladies looking at my money.
No, you're not.
No, no, no, no.
You're going to have a bunch of guys.
brian redban
Gay guys, yeah.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
A bunch of gay guys.
Yeah.
It's not like how many women have ever been arrested for public masturbation?
brian redban
I put that up.
joe rogan
Put that number in the perplexity.
See what it has to do.
brian redban
Make a scene.
joe rogan
And then make a Frank Visetta painting.
It's women fighting off the masturbation police.
Because, like, dudes jerking off in public is a scary thing.
Like, oh, this guy's a sex criminal.
He's jerking off in public.
A woman playing with herself in public is just kind of sad.
brian redban
No, that's a hot.
unidentified
It's hot.
brian redban
Can you imagine if that was a problem?
Got too many women.
joe rogan
It would definitely be a problem if you were with your husband and you're walking along.
What a beautiful day at the park.
Mike, look.
Oh, look over here, Mike.
Don't look at it.
Don't watch.
She's a withering.
Come on, play in mommy sandbox.
jamie vernon
It doesn't give numbers, it just gives five examples of ladies have been arrested.
joe rogan
Okay, let's see these people.
Information, we don't have to say the names.
Someone 38 years old, arrested in Florida, of course, masturbating during a video jail visit.
Oh, okay.
That's normal.
Arrested in Texas for masturbating in public while allegedly under the influence of drugs.
Crazy.
Arrested in Georgia for masturbating on a public beach using a vibrator.
Whoa, that's a wild bitch.
And then what's under there?
Arrested in Minnesota for masturbating naked in a vehicle.
Was she driving?
She's just sitting in the car.
Patrolman found her lying on the floor of an open gold Pontiac SUV, digitally penetrating herself.
It's in quotes.
It says digitally penetrating herself.
Digitally?
Yeah.
Wow.
There's a 47-year-old woman with no fixed address facing charges of indecent exposure and disorderly conduct after public masturbation.
Imagine that's how far you not only are you homeless, but you're homeless and whack it off.
brian redban
So this Austin woman, I just looked her up because she said she was in Texas.
Look at her.
She's got so many photos, though.
She's been arrested so many times for masturbating.
joe rogan
Oh, that's her.
So, why does she do that?
brian redban
Drugs, it says.
joe rogan
So, it's a drug test.
brian redban
Oh, whoa, yeah, she's down.
Yeah, she's that girl downtown, right?
joe rogan
You know her.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Jamie's tiger.
brian redban
Everybody knows her.
Yeah, she's always naked and stuff.
And there was a black version of her.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
How many times has this lady been arrested?
jamie vernon
We could go downtown and find her right now.
brian redban
Yeah, she's by the bridge usually, brow creek in the career.
joe rogan
That's my kind of homeless person.
You know, a fixture in the community.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, it becomes a part of the tapestry, right?
It makes things more interesting.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's my kind of homeless people.
I like them like that.
jamie vernon
Six years ago.
joe rogan
Hey.
Wow.
For six years, she's been banging out in the streets.
brian redban
Dude.
joe rogan
That's kind of curious.
jamie vernon
She's not wearing any pants at this time.
joe rogan
How many people have loved ones that died of some horrible disease?
You're like, look at this lady.
She's out there thriving.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's thriving.
You know?
Frank just took the vaccine and dropped dead playing soccer.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
This lady is out there thriving.
jamie vernon
I'm going to read all this in the Newsweek article.
joe rogan
This is in the Newsweek article.
Okay.
She was named in the affidavit as the general manager of the JW Marriage.
jamie vernon
Someone else was, not that.
unidentified
Oh, the witness.
I suppose.
jamie vernon
The witness.
joe rogan
Document noted he heard Nichols in quotes making moaning noises as if she was having an orgasm.
Let me know what the kind of noises she made.
unidentified
Look above it.
brian redban
Public view in a public place with her legs straight up in the air, spread open.
joe rogan
Straight up in the air.
She doesn't even talk.
At one point, the suspect was seen rubbing herself back and forth on the plastic seat.
Okay.
brian redban
That's hot.
joe rogan
That's diseases, bro.
That's how AIDS get started.
That's the real AIDS.
Venereal diseases by themselves, it's a weird.
What's the matter, Jamie?
jamie vernon
That's what she used to look like.
joe rogan
That's what she used to look like.
jamie vernon
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, times are hard.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, when you are whacking off in public every day, I mean, that's like, you know, the face of a female MMA fighter.
Gets scarred up.
jamie vernon
The picture I just had up that was a sanely different looking person.
brian redban
Yeah.
Well, there's 12 different versions of her.
joe rogan
She's been barren upboxing with fentanyl for decades.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do you expect?
You get scarred up.
Wow.
Yeah.
brian redban
She kind of looks like a girl I know in that first photo.
joe rogan
It's hard out there.
brian redban
Not for a girl.
joe rogan
It's hard for her.
See, she's clearly.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
2019, there's no OnlyFans, really.
joe rogan
She had an OnlyFans?
jamie vernon
She could have been on a default pass.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Not really.
She wouldn't have known.
Someone would have scammed her.
unidentified
She would have lost it all.
joe rogan
OnlyFans is like, what is it?
Like, if you look at the amount of money earned, OnlyFans is bigger than NBA teams.
Like, what is the what is the amount of money generated by OnlyFans every year?
Let's just guess.
brian redban
God.
joe rogan
Let's just guess.
brian redban
All right.
I mean, it's way up there because I know there's some girls that make over a million a month.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they're small.
unidentified
Excuse me.
joe rogan
That's a small number.
The most of them are actually not making much money at all, and they're giving up to Kruder forever, which is not good.
They're going to regret it for that 50 bucks a month that they were getting.
Most of them are not getting much.
It's probably some creep at the office who wants to see your butthole.
brian redban
I mean, I know girls that they're just bartenders here in town that make thousands of dollars on it, and they don't do, they just show their fucking brawls.
Like, they're not even showing.
joe rogan
That's why you only make thousands.
You want to make millions?
You got to fuck a horse.
unidentified
All right.
jamie vernon
2019, the revenue of OnlyFans.
brian redban
What do you think?
Guess $1.5 billion.
jamie vernon
This is pre-pandemic.
joe rogan
Oh, pre-pandemic.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
brian redban
I'll just say 1.5 billion.
joe rogan
I'll say 700 million.
jamie vernon
238 million in 2019.
It jumped up to 1.7 in 2020.
brian redban
1.7 billion?
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
So the next year, that's the beginning of the pandemic.
But last year, what do you think it was?
brian redban
Oh, God.
2024.
4.
joe rogan
14.
14 billion.
brian redban
14 billion?
4.5 billion.
jamie vernon
Just under eight.
Whoa, that's a lot.
For 395 million users.
joe rogan
And once again, 2019, it was what?
jamie vernon
238 million.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
You want to hear the craziest number I heard?
Something like 50% of American males have a subscription to OnlyFans.
brian redban
50%?
joe rogan
50.
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
It's like a statistic thing.
I think we looked it up like 10% of all females in America have an OnlyFans account, too, or something like that.
joe rogan
10%.
jamie vernon
One in 10.
joe rogan
Between a certain age group.
Not like old ladies.
Imagine?
brian redban
I like to think it's more.
joe rogan
10% is wild.
brian redban
Yeah, it is.
joe rogan
It's wild.
One out of 10 ladies that you meet has an OnlyFans.
brian redban
Yeah.
jamie vernon
And when you think about the number of men, 377.5 million user accounts.
That's more than the U.S. population.
So obviously it's worldwide.
joe rogan
Whoa.
But isn't it in the United States like 150?
jamie vernon
The United States accounts for approximately 55% of the users.
So it's 100 and you know, 100, what, two?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Basically 90 million.
Basically half.
brian redban
That's cool.
joe rogan
Half of the population is on OnlyFans in America.
brian redban
That's crazy.
joe rogan
How can that be true?
Is that one of those like serious XM things where you get a free subscription?
You know?
jamie vernon
There are free accounts.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
You get a free account for what?
jamie vernon
Plenty of girls sign up and like, I'm free right now.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, that's.
jamie vernon
So you can just make an account and have a lot of stuff.
joe rogan
But that's still someone, it's like, it's not like when YouTube put their phone, like their album on your iPhone.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
brian redban
Yeah, it's not like that.
But I think it's because more people, everyday people do it.
And so like teachers and like bartenders.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
The teacher gets fired.
brian redban
Dirt, I'm a dirty teacher.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
That happens a lot.
There's a lot of teachers on there.
joe rogan
A lot of teachers are fucking kids.
brian redban
Yeah.
Fucking hot teachers.
joe rogan
It's weird.
It's weird because everybody smiles when they read those stories.
When it's the hot lady and the 15-year-old football player, like, yeah.
unidentified
There's no victims here.
joe rogan
That's one way where we were very prejudiced, actually.
brian redban
Totally.
joe rogan
100%.
Yeah.
But this sheer number of people on OnlyFans in the United States is mind-blowing.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
Like, think about it.
Like, that's above everything else.
Everything.
Like, how many subs?
Okay.
How many subscribers, how many people use Spotify in the United States?
brian redban
A lot.
joe rogan
Let's guess.
Just in the United States.
brian redban
How many people in the United States?
joe rogan
333 million plus Mexicans.
brian redban
Okay.
I'll say 150 million.
joe rogan
150 million.
brian redban
And that's going high.
That's a high number, I think.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Because I think worldwide it's crazy.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It might be around there.
Most people I know have Spotify.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think what does that mean, though?
Is that a biased sampling?
Because most people I know are my age or younger and listen to music a lot.
unidentified
Right.
jamie vernon
Worldwide, 713,281 premium subscribers.
In the U.S., it says 55 million paid subscribers.
brian redban
Paid.
Paid.
joe rogan
I bet that's but how many users in the United States?
Because I bet a lot of people don't.
brian redban
Paid's kind of small.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
I mean, I didn't know.
joe rogan
The point is more people are jerking off than listening to music.
That's my point.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
And that's only one of many options to get things to jerk off to online.
brian redban
That's why we need to somehow find a way to put tits on music.
joe rogan
Dude, we're going to have vivid experiences that aren't real.
That's what's going to happen.
That's going to be the future of porn.
It's going to be just like AI, so there's no victims.
There's not going to be any real women that are exploited or sex trafficked and forced into doing this.
So it's going to be the hottest maid you've ever had in your life coming to your hotel room.
brian redban
Robots.
joe rogan
It won't even be robots, dude.
It doesn't even have to be, but it could be.
But it doesn't have to be.
It can just be an artificial sensation that you're willing to sink into this matrix-like device, and it's going to provide you with some crazy porn scene.
That's what it's going to be.
And that's going to be a real problem because regular relationships are complicated.
People have to be attracted to you.
So you have to work hard to get people attracted to you, whether it's by making more money or by being hotter or whatever the fuck it is.
You ultimately want someone to touch you.
But it's the moment that is just something you could order up, like play an audiobook.
That's a wrap.
brian redban
Poor females.
joe rogan
It's a wrap.
They're going to have to get real jobs.
They're going to have to start mining.
They're going to have no slaves in the Congo.
It's going to be all chicks.
Chicks mining.
Because the thing is, they're not going to want to do that.
Women like their pornography in literature form.
They like novels that are dirty and naughty.
They don't want to see it.
They want to think it.
Men want to see it.
And they want to just experience it.
Like if you could put goggles on anytime you want, every time you go to take a shit, you just have wild sex.
You know, what are you doing in there?
I'm just reading the paper.
You're in there fucking, aren't you, son of a bitch?
You just hear it in the background like she's calling you from another room.
Like it's just ruining your experience.
Stop fucking.
I'm not.
I'm reading the paper.
I'm taking a shit, reading the paper.
God damn it.
Leave me alone.
You don't even talk to me.
unidentified
You're in there in the toilet with the girls in that head thing.
joe rogan
It's going to be a problem, man, because there's already so many incels in this country.
There's so many guys that just don't have any intimate relationships at all.
I think they was a thing where they were interviewing young men and trying to find out how many of them have sex on a regular basis.
And it's one of the lowest numbers ever recorded.
Although, like, how many times are people asking people how much fuck?
brian redban
And who are they asking?
How much you do that?
joe rogan
Fucking.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But, like, I think it's a very unusual thing for people, you know, age 18 to 34 or whatever.
Like, young men are having less sex now than I think ever.
I think a lot of that is they're not even trying because of the access to porn.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
And by the time it comes dinner time, take a lady out.
You got no jizz left.
You've been beating off all day.
brian redban
Yeah.
Right.
And they're probably also not telling the truth or not.
Like, I'm not talking to you.
Who are you working for?
Like, you know what I mean?
These kids are like, don't trust anybody and they're not talking to the press.
joe rogan
Right.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's probably true too.
unidentified
Right.
brian redban
They know about privacy and stuff.
I'm not telling you.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're using VPNs.
brian redban
Yeah.
VPNs.
joe rogan
Fuck off.
Yeah, if you have a VPN, that's the only way you can protect from people knowing exactly what you're doing at any given moment.
And even then, like, they're tracking you with metadata.
They're tracking where your cell phone's pinging to different towers, you know.
And then we're giving into more and more of that.
And then every time a new phone comes out, it's like a little more invasive.
brian redban
Yeah.
Give up.
joe rogan
We're done?
We're done.
We're done.
Redman just checked out.
See how he knew?
brian redban
No, no, I didn't.
joe rogan
It's like my dog when he doesn't want to bring the ball back anymore.
He's like, We're done.
We're done.
brian redban
How's the new dog?
joe rogan
Oh, he's oh my god.
He's so cute.
He's so adorable.
He's the sweetest little thing.
Everybody who picks him up, all he does is just bathe you with kisses.
He barks when he kisses you.
He gets so excited, he barks.
His tail wags his whole little body.
He's like one of them dogs, like when he wags his tail, he's all like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.
He's just jumping up, touching you.
brian redban
I've always wanted one of those dogs.
Ever since I saw Insects in the City, what are they called?
joe rogan
It's a King Charles Cavalier Spaniel.
brian redban
Charlotte had one of those.
joe rogan
He's so sweet.
And, you know, it made me love Marshall even more if that was possible because he's the sweetest dog to this little puppy.
He goes to him with toys to try to get him to play with him.
It's the most adorable thing of all time.
Like, he's just golden retrievers are the fucking sweetest animals.
Like, we don't deserve them.
We don't deserve them.
They're so sweet.
Like, Marshall has never been anything but sweet a day in his life.
He's never had a county moment on earth.
He's been alive for almost nine years.
Never had a county moment.
And he's so sweet to this little puppy.
He has this toy.
It's like an octopus-looking thing.
And he comes over and brings his little octopus over to Charlie.
Charlie grabs it and they're playing around.
It is so fucking cute, man.
He puts his paw on them like this, like a gentle paw on them when they're playing around with stuff.
brian redban
You're going to clone Marshall?
unidentified
No.
brian redban
Why?
joe rogan
Because he's Marshall.
He's an original.
He's his own thing.
I don't believe in that.
I don't think you have to do that.
Like, that's crazy.
You meet a new dog.
You meet a new dog.
I've had a bunch of amazing dogs, you know, and they're all different.
And that's part of the fun.
You know, part of the fun is you don't know.
Like, this guy's crazy.
Like, what is he doing?
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
He gets to the door.
unidentified
He goes, oh, where did you learn that?
brian redban
Johnny Cash.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, Johnny was.
He was the sweetest.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Every dog's got their own thing, man.
That's like part of the fun about being a dog owner.
They're all their own weird little personalities.
brian redban
One of my dogs is getting so old, though.
It's blind and deaf now.
And it's the saddest thing.
She's constantly running into walls.
joe rogan
When Johnny was the last year of his life, I used to have to carry him outside.
brian redban
That's what we have to do with this dog.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And Johnny was big.
So I used to, I was the only one who could carry him.
He's like 140 pounds.
So I'd have to open the door and have to pick him up and take him into the yard.
He would shit and piss.
He could barely walk.
He could literally barely bend down to shit.
It was horrible.
brian redban
Yeah, I'm going through the thing right now.
It's like, I don't know if I should spend, because it's super expensive, the money to do the cataracts so she can see again at least.
How old is she?
14, 13.
And they usually last about 15, so maybe one year less.
joe rogan
Surgery is probably going to wreck her life.
brian redban
I know.
unidentified
And it's going to be painful.
brian redban
Imagine giving one more year.
Like, she can see now because she's just so sad and depressed.
joe rogan
She might just die.
brian redban
I know.
joe rogan
She might die from the operation.
She's so old.
It sucks.
That's the thing about dogs.
It's so hard.
Like, Johnny was 13 when he died.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe 14.
Like, he was, and the last year was rough.
It was so sad.
brian redban
Yeah, I don't want to deal with it.
joe rogan
I know.
I know.
It's hard, man.
It's hard.
You know, but that's what happens when you love something.
Like the when it's you got to have the missing it, like there's got to be grief because if not for that, you don't feel the love.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
The love and the loss, they're all connected in some weird way, unfortunately.
And with dogs, they're the perfect example of that because they're just little love machines.
They just give you love.
And they are a direct reflection of how you treat them.
You know, if you treat them well and they're happy to see you and they're sweet to everybody, like that's that's a good life, a love life.
It just doesn't last long.
You know, Marshall's nine.
You know, I give him the best food he can get.
He's very healthy.
He's a farmer's dog, gets plenty of exercise, but I know it's only a matter of time.
And it's sad.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's hard.
Anyway.
Bring this train into a screeching halt.
What are you up to other than Kill Tony?
You're always doing some weird shit on that.
brian redban
Yeah, I'm doing, I got my fake band going on right now, Catbrad.
joe rogan
What is that on?
How do you do that?
brian redban
It's on Spotify, YouTube, Cap Red Music.
It's pretty much, I've always made music like Olive Garden, Butthole, all those songs I used to make.
But I used to sing it.
So now I just write a bunch of music and I use AI to sing it for me and make it a chick.
And I have like a bunch of music videos and stuff on YouTube that I'm using AI to make.
And I scan Janice's face in it so she plays like the.
joe rogan
Are you still doing the virtual reality rooms?
brian redban
I'm doing that too.
Yeah.
I'm doing virtual red band.
I do that like once or twice a week.
joe rogan
And how do people know when you're going to do that?
brian redban
You just tweet it, Instagram, or that's on Red Band on YouTube.
But yeah, all my stuff is on YouTube, Red Band and Catbrid music.
unidentified
Okay.
brian redban
All right.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
I love you.
brian redban
Love you, buddy.
joe rogan
Love you too.
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