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Joe Rogan Experience #2305 - Rich Vos
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joe rogan
How are you, fella?
Good to see you.
Dude, you're fucking dripping with diamonds, sir.
What's going on?
The road's been good to you.
Look at you.
rich vos
I'm just so empty inside.
This fills the hole for like...
Like, it's like, you know, you go buy, you're like, oh, and then you get home and go, I hate my life.
I hate my insides and no spirituality.
But I get to look at my just emptiness on, you know.
joe rogan
Dripping with wrapper diamonds.
unidentified
I've ran out of, I've ran out of shit to buy.
rich vos
So, like, there's nothing.
joe rogan
What kind of car are you driving?
rich vos
A Lexus IS350.
joe rogan
Oh, those are fun.
rich vos
It's nice.
joe rogan
That's a good car.
Bulletproof. Never, never going to break.
rich vos
And it's so fast.
Yeah. You know, it's...
But this is how fucked it.
Okay, so the two...
Okay, I had the Lexus 350, right?
Right. Or whatever.
And I had it for seven months, maybe.
I went in to get it serviced, and I was kind of depressed, so I bought a different car.
I said, this is fucked up.
So I bought the...
IS 350.
I had the other car for seven fucking months.
I go, you know what?
That one looks cool.
So I bought that.
And then I went in to get it, that service.
And it was the exact same car a year later.
But I liked the newer color.
The newer gray.
That gray, that whatever weird gray.
joe rogan
Like a slate gray?
rich vos
Yeah. It looks good, I said.
You know what, fuck.
Give me this car.
So I traded.
joe rogan
Do you keep swapping them out?
Yeah. They must love you.
rich vos
Yeah, they fuck.
I'm such a mooch.
On one year of my wife's birthday, I bought myself a new car on her birthday.
unidentified
I bought a BMW on her birthday with happy birthday.
rich vos
We could drive around in this.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
That probably played off well.
rich vos
Ah, fuck.
I buy her cars.
So, you know.
I get bored easy.
I get bored easy.
And it's because of, you know, in life, in life, really, like, I see some of my friends doing arenas, doing this, doing that.
But I have enough.
I really have enough.
But it's not enough.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Does that make sense?
Yeah. I think for my career, not for my personal life.
My personal life, I got three fucking great daughters, three grandkids, another one on the way.
My seven-year-old is going to go to college, has pick of all kinds of schools, you know.
Good schools.
I fucking...
In 11th grade, I raised my hand and go to the bathroom, and I never came back.
I just walked out.
Like, I'm a fucking idiot.
You know, my past.
And my kids all grew up...
Okay, the old one married a black guy, but he's light-skinned.
But anyhow, the prettiest baby on the planet.
So, I have enough.
But when it comes to career as a comic, and you know...
Just one more fucking thing.
Just one more thing.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I do know what you're saying.
rich vos
I don't know.
I don't know what it is.
You know, I've had specials.
Not Netflix, but it's always...
It's like I'm always doing the other club.
Right. You know what I'm saying?
I'm always...
And I'm very blessed and I love what I've achieved in this business, but it seems like it's always like...
Okay, I got a special on Amazon now.
But it's not...
It wasn't...
Amazon didn't buy it.
We placed it on that.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's always...
There's always one little thing.
When every pilot my wife and I have had together, or I've had, gets this close to getting picked up.
You know?
I've heard...
Some of the no's I've heard...
They almost sounded like yeses.
They were such good no's.
I walked out and go, that was the best no today.
That fucking no almost felt like a yes.
So, in this business...
joe rogan
Do you think you put something in your mind to make all these things kind of fall short?
Have you ever thought of that?
rich vos
Well, that's what my wife says.
joe rogan
Yeah. Do you ever thought that maybe the way you interface with the world is like your expectations are tempered?
Like in a way where you almost want to fail because it's more comforting that it happened again rather than this new thing of success, which is going to force you to really focus and work harder to get more success.
And it's a lot of pressure.
And then you think about all the times you fucked up before and you don't want to hear no again.
You don't want to hear it, but you feel like it's coming and you almost make it come.
rich vos
Well, I get that.
In life growing up, From my childhood through drug addiction, I became comfortable being uncomfortable.
That was my life.
joe rogan
Right. Comfortable being in the skids.
rich vos
Yeah, this was what I was used to.
In this business, I don't really ever set myself up for failure.
I mean, I produce.
I come up with albums.
I'm always coming up with new material.
And I got seven albums.
I'll probably make an eighth album, which is a pretty...
It's a lot for a career, I would imagine.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's great.
rich vos
I don't go into clubs and drink.
I don't hit on waitresses.
So I don't know.
But my wife says the exact same thing you're saying.
My wife said to me once...
She said, because I had this power of thinking, like, when I think really hard, it comes to me shit, right?
And my wife goes, if you think you deserve a million dollars, you'll get a million dollars.
And I said, God gives you what you need, not what you want.
And then she said, do you think Chelsea Handler needed a TV show?
So she kind of, like, debunked my whole need, you know, and want thing.
If you believe in some kind of power greater than you, I'm not religious by any fucking...
But shit comes to me.
I don't think I fucking...
I don't screw things up like, you know, in meetings or when we do pilots or whatever.
I do what I'm supposed to do, so I don't know.
I mean, in comedy, yeah, for years I might have been a little aggressive on stage or, you know, a little whatever.
You know, I think everything now, especially now with clubs or whatever, it's all numbers.
They don't give a fuck.
If you light the waitstaff on fire, if you sold out the room, oh great, you were fabulous.
I was working catch years ago, I was at catch, and Bill Hicks, okay, so David Brenner's on stage, and they love David Brenner.
He's killing, killing.
It was during the peak of David Brenner.
He gets off, Bill Hicks goes up, and he says, Growing up as a kid, I would see Robert Klein and David Brenner, and I figured if they could do it, I could do it.
That was his opening show.
So, now he's doing his bit about Nancy Reagan, skinny, whatever, and calling her the Antichrist.
I mean, people are running out the door.
They're running out the door.
And then he gets off stage.
And he says to me, he goes, what went wrong?
unidentified
But I swear to God, he goes, what was wrong?
Was he serious?
rich vos
Yes. Or was he joking around?
No, he was, whatever, he was Bill Hicks.
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's hard to tell with him.
rich vos
But anyhow, the manager or booker, now after I said to him, you can come and do a spot here anytime you want, because he was Bill Hicks.
Do you see what I'm saying?
He was Bill Hicks.
I worked with him in Texas.
It's when I first started.
And I'm watching him, you know.
And we'll get back on track.
I'm sorry to go off on these things.
joe rogan
Don't go wherever you want to go.
rich vos
So we're working in Texas.
He just breaks up.
His girlfriend breaks up with him at the time.
It's a true story.
So he goes, where can you get a hooker?
A prostitute and a cab driver.
joe rogan
I like how you had to clarify.
rich vos
Yeah, I know.
There's a lot of these young kids now that listen, okay?
A prostitute, okay?
So a cab driver takes them to one house because they would take you to the...
And I go with him.
He goes, take a ride.
So then we go to one house.
She knocks on the door.
And she opens the door and goes, you're a cop, and slammed the door on him.
unidentified
Slammed the door on his face.
rich vos
He looks like a cop.
Then he went, but he also, the next place the cab driver took him, she opened the door and goes, you're too young, and slammed the door on him.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
rich vos
The next night, he did 10 minutes or whatever on how he can't get...
Can't pick up a prostitute in Lubbock, Texas.
I go, I'll never be this funny as long as I fucking live.
I've watched people going, amazing.
Then I was running then with Bastille.
That's when I was running with Bastille.
Frankie Bastille?
I'll tell you a good story.
I think I told you this story.
I've told this story and it's been told, but I don't know if I told it years ago when I did this.
And then I'll get back to it.
I'm not self-sabotaging.
That's what you were getting to in my head.
Am I self-sabotaging?
joe rogan
No, not self-sabotaging.
I don't think it's a self-sabotage thing.
It's not understanding the energy that you're putting out there and being accustomed to a certain result.
If you're accustomed to missing your playing pool, you're accustomed to missing the nine ball, you're going to miss that fucking nine ball every time.
rich vos
Well, it happens in golf, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure.
Same thing.
You gotta reset the way you think about things.
And if there's something that's eating away at you, that bothers you, that occupies your thoughts, you have to figure out what that is and clean that up.
That's a big part of the problem with a lot of people.
A lot of the problem with a lot of people is maybe they don't like something about themselves, they don't like what they've done, they don't like choices they've made, and that's in your head all the time.
The lack of clarity, the lack of peace is in your head all the time.
This is not an easy thing I'm saying.
I'm not saying this is like, okay, here's the real formula.
Just go out, follow these three steps, and you're going to be rich and famous.
It's not that.
It's just that success generally happens when you've got as many pieces as possible in order correctly.
And failure generally happens when you're overwhelmed by too many things that are not working right.
And your attention and your focus is on them.
You're divided.
You know, a lot of times you see it's like a terrible relationship.
I've known a lot of really talented people that sabotage themselves with a terrible relationship.
And they think somehow or another that...
This is just how relationships are, and they're terrible in that relationship.
And then they can never be who they could be.
They can never reach their full potential because they're always burdened down by these fucking squabbles they're having with their girlfriend or their boyfriend.
rich vos
That's also, too, a God thing where you think, I could fix this person or I could change him.
joe rogan
No one can change him.
rich vos
That's Brian Callen.
joe rogan
Crying out his whole life, I would tell him,"Get out now." I would meet his girlfriend, I'd be like,"Get out now." I met one girl that he dated, I literally, within five seconds of saying hello to her, I'd go,"Come here." I pulled him aside.
Cut to, okay?
He doesn't listen.
Later that night, she's drinking wine, she's fucking hamburger.
It's a disaster.
She winds up living with him, eventually figures it out, gets rid of her.
A couple years later, he's walking down the street on Sunset, and she's street walking.
No. Yes.
Girl he was living with at one point in time.
This is Brian Callen.
He felt abandoned when he was young.
And so he...
I believe I'm speaking for him.
And so he's a sweet guy.
And he tries to reach out and fix people.
rich vos
Well, here's my Brian Callen story.
It's very funny.
I was middling for him at Caroline's.
Which will never happen again.
Because Caroline's is close.
I'm middling for him.
So I get off stage and I'm single.
This fucking smoking hot girl comes up to me and she goes, come on, let's leave.
Right? I go, I gotta sell my DVDs or CDs.
I have to sell my DVDs or CDs after the show.
I'm sitting there selling CDs and I see Brian walk out with her right past me up the stairs.
I fucked up.
But maybe I didn't.
Who knows?
joe rogan
Well, you definitely didn't because Bonnie's awesome.
rich vos
No, I wasn't.
joe rogan
It worked out for you in the long run.
But it's, yeah, you definitely should have left with her.
rich vos
No, I shouldn't have because that in life is where I was supposed to be at that time when I was there.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
I see what you're saying.
rich vos
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
No, you're correct.
rich vos
Anything could happen.
joe rogan
What if she's a nightmare and then you miss out on whatever, $400, $500 you would have made selling DVDs?
rich vos
Oh, I didn't make that much.
I never know.
$100? Even $100.
joe rogan
Now you're going to a nice restaurant.
rich vos
Who knows?
Who knows?
You know, it's this whole negative thing with my...
And this isn't ego by any stretch when I say stuff like this.
And I've, and my wife, I know I've earned respect from my peers.
I know it.
You definitely have.
From white to black comics.
Black comics that most white comics don't even know.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Well, you did a lot of those rooms back in the day.
rich vos
Yeah, and all those TV shows.
I did them all.
Yep. You know.
Please, I started black comedy.
So, okay.
You can only hold a white man down so long.
So, and like, I think in life, I'm more about respect than accomplishment.
joe rogan
You see what I'm saying?
So you're more about the respect from your peers.
rich vos
Not only my peers, the industry too, though.
The industry doesn't know.
Like, say some club owner.
Let's say a club owner.
They're not sitting in the room watching your shows.
All they care about are the fucking numbers that come in.
I had a club owner once, I said to him, and you're lucky, you're way out of that, but I'm in that.
So I said to a club owner once, he goes, I said, look, I'm as funny as I've ever been right now in life.
He goes, that doesn't fucking matter.
What does that matter?
And it's all a quick fix.
joe rogan
Right, they just want to sell tickets.
rich vos
Sell tickets.
And I get it.
They've got to keep the doors open.
joe rogan
But that's the weird marriage between the club owner and the comic.
You know, I used to tell comics, you know, we're not...
Every comic feels like they're battling it with club owners.
Like the club owner's never giving them enough money.
The club owner's fucking them over.
Lied about it being sold out.
It was definitely sold out.
I want my bonus.
That kind of shit.
Yeah. You don't want to be a club owner.
You don't.
I mean, I give that advice, then I became one.
But just by necessity.
But I was like, this is an important relationship.
You gotta be nice to them, and so they respect you.
Because everybody in the beginning, you feel like you're ignored by them.
But it's a weird thing, because they're just in the business of comedy.
Unless you get like Brian Dorfman in Zanies, he really loves comedy.
There's a few Wendy from Comedy Works in Denver.
rich vos
I'll turn my Wendy story in a few years for me.
I love Wendy.
joe rogan
Better be a good story.
rich vos
You'll like it.
joe rogan
Okay, but my point is it's like...
rich vos
Well, Corey in Rhode Island's one of the best fucking nicest guys on the planet.
joe rogan
Rhode Island's?
rich vos
Yeah. What's that one?
Comedy Connection.
joe rogan
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
rich vos
Mark and Rochester.
James and Governors.
joe rogan
The Comedy Connection in Rhode Island's weird because you're in a bank.
rich vos
I know.
unidentified
It's so strange.
joe rogan
They turn a bank into a comedy club.
rich vos
That's how bad the market's doing.
joe rogan
Well, that was in the 80s when he did that.
rich vos
That was when I was a kid.
He fixed the whole thing up, the whole camera system.
joe rogan
It's a great club.
It was always a great club.
Plus, there's not a lot in Rhode Island, so when you go there, people are so happy to see you.
rich vos
And I'm not bad-mouthing her.
I don't know her like this.
So, I worked a club twice.
And the second time I worked there was Halloween weekend.
I mean, there was a guy in the audience in blackface.
Whatever. Really?
This was, I don't know, 10, 15 years ago.
joe rogan
10, 15 years ago?
rich vos
10 years ago.
But wait a second.
So, she...
She wasn't even there the week.
She tells my manager, I did a lot of crowd work, whatever.
So anyhow, I'm working at Syracuse Funny Bone, and my middle, very funny guy, I think he passed away, he was an older guy, really great joke writer.
He's from Denver.
He goes, oh, I do a podcast with Wendy.
And he sees that I'm closing, and he goes, I'll talk to her.
So I email Wendy.
And I go, hey, listen, why don't we start from scratch?
Let bygones be bygones.
Start over.
Whatever. You know, I'd love to come back in.
And she doesn't get back to me.
So I write, by your lack of response, it looks like you want to move forward.
Here are some available dates.
unidentified
Right? And she doesn't get back to me again.
rich vos
Shocker. And I write, can I bring my own metal?
What do I care?
It's funny.
I'm trying to be funny.
joe rogan
So she was just upset that you did crowd work?
That's it?
rich vos
No, the numbers were low, probably.
It was Halloween weekend.
But listen, I work enough.
And, you know, I'm saying, I'm not bad-mouthing any of these people.
Because you bad-mouth, you're the one who looks bad.
I'm not bad-mouthing them.
She's got a business to run.
Whatever she's got to do, just like any of them.
They have a business to run.
If this is who they're going to bring in to keep their doors open, I'll always find fucking work.
I don't care.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes. So, and industry-wise, I mean, now it's a whole...
Look, my wife is killing it because she's a writer and a comic.
And, you know, she's writing movies.
She's punching on movies.
She wrote for the Golden Globes.
You know, she has different outlets.
No. No, that's cool.
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rich vos
God, when I quit cigars, I quit cigars because I was scared I was going to start smoking.
joe rogan
You probably would.
rich vos
I probably would because it would lead, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're puffing on tobacco.
Yeah. You're going to want to inhale it.
rich vos
That's why, you know, I can't even put a dick in my mouth because I'm scared.
unidentified
I understand.
rich vos
You know that.
So, you know, she has different outlets as a stand-up.
I'm just a stand-up.
I'm a club comic.
I love, you know, I do theaters, I do whatever, but I love doing, I really like doing clubs.
joe rogan
So it sounds like you're doing exactly what you want to do.
Yes. So what the fuck's the problem?
rich vos
I don't think there is a problem, but I said just one more thing to put it over the top.
Do you know what I mean?
One more.
joe rogan
You're never totally satisfied, Rich Voss.
rich vos
Well, that's a good point, yes.
I'm an addict, you know, so look, here's my fucking...
Here's how fucked up I am.
joe rogan
How fucked up are you?
rich vos
I'm going to tell you right now, Sam.
Because you glitter and diamonds.
And this is not in the...
In the morning, I drink my coffee.
I sit at the table.
joe rogan
Sounds like me.
rich vos
And I put a bird feeder.
And I watch the birds feed.
And it's very relaxing.
Watching them all come and feed.
It's very relaxing.
Now... I have seven bird feeders around my property because I figured, well, this will be seven times more relaxing.
joe rogan
No, now you've got bird chaos.
rich vos
No, but they're all over.
I mean, I got ones that I, with a video camera, I could see who's coming, the squirrel.
I don't care if the squirrel eats the, you know, but it's my addictive personality.
Right. Where...
joe rogan
You always want more.
rich vos
A little more.
joe rogan
Yeah, just a little more.
A little more.
Different color.
Same car.
One more ring.
One more ring.
rich vos
I took two off.
You know, so it's...
And I work on myself.
I go to meetings two, three a week.
You know, I...
joe rogan
Still after all these years?
rich vos
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Do you still feel the pull after all these years?
unidentified
No, I haven't got gambling to fall back on.
joe rogan
What are you gambling on?
rich vos
What am I gambling on?
Well, I mean, once in a while, I'll play on my phone at night slots.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
rich vos
Yeah, I did real well.
joe rogan
You made money?
rich vos
Yeah, last year.
joe rogan
I gotta say, slots on your phone sounds like the dumbest fucking idea.
Because there is no way it's not fixed.
At least a slot machine is random.
rich vos
Well, slots in the casino is the biggest sucker bet on the planet.
I'll play craps.
If I'm gonna play...
If I'm going to gamble on a machine, I'm going to play craps like a man.
joe rogan
You know what drives me fucking crazy when I hear that?
Someone hits the slots and they won't give out.
They won't give the money.
Because there was an error with the machine.
rich vos
That's bullshit.
joe rogan
I've heard that many times.
Like, fuck your error.
Give that guy his money.
rich vos
This is what I won last year on slots.
joe rogan
Let me see this.
Really? Yeah.
Really? Yeah.
unidentified
Let's do that.
rich vos
Two jackpots.
Wow. But now I keep playing, think I'll get more.
Think I'll hit the big one.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's how they get you.
rich vos
Yeah. I mean, okay.
joe rogan
I have a friend who's very wealthy and is a fucking degenerate gamble.
Dana White?
rich vos
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I see the videos.
joe rogan
Degenerate. He's a nut.
I was just reading an article about Hunter Campbell, who's a financial officer, was trying to talk to him, just saying, you're killing me.
Why are you doing this?
unidentified
He loves it.
rich vos
Loves that.
There's shit that goes off in your head.
Even when you lose, you're like, I mean, I...
joe rogan
Makes you feel like you're alive.
Something's happening.
rich vos
I was in Vegas, and I walked to the table with 300 bucks, crap table.
And it's me, and the whole table is...
I mean, I held the dice for...
Almost an hour.
300, I turn into 5,000.
The table's going nuts.
I'm winning everybody formula and diapers at the table.
They're fucking yelling, cat with a hat.
And it's just such a, you know, and then for the rest of the week, I didn't gamble again because I go, I can't follow that.
I'm not going to be able to do that again.
So it's not like I'm obsessed with it.
Numbers I am kind of, but...
You know, I've been to casinos and worked for three, four days and not even played.
But when I do, it's like my wife and I were in Canada and we went to a casino.
I go, well, let me go back to the hotel and put my credit cards and money there.
And she goes, you can't go into a casino with all your money and credit cards.
joe rogan
I go, how does she ask that question?
She knows you.
rich vos
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
She should know you can't.
She's fucking with you.
She knows you can't.
She should say good for you.
rich vos
That's a good point.
joe rogan
She should say good for you.
That's smart.
rich vos
But she didn't know me when I was an addict.
Oh. She never saw me when I was out there.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I...
Well, I guess I did.
I knew you when you were an addict.
Yeah. But you cleaned up nice.
You really did.
You figured it out well.
You really did.
So she should know that.
rich vos
Yeah. Not to go to the casino.
joe rogan
A little bit more supportive.
rich vos
That's what I'm trying to say.
joe rogan
How about that, Bonnie?
unidentified
You know what?
rich vos
That's what I'm trying to say.
joe rogan
You guys are one of the funniest couples of all time, though.
rich vos
Thank you.
joe rogan
There's like a few, like Christina Pazitzky and Tom Segura, Natasha Leggero, Moshe Kasher.
There's a few, like, you know, people say, like, comics shouldn't date comics.
Well, I don't know about that, because sometimes it fucking works really well.
rich vos
What am I going to do?
Come home to a dentist?
You know, for me.
You know, we really come together when we find the same enemy and the same person we could trash.
Yeah. You know, or we talk comedy.
We make each other laugh.
Yeah, we fight and have all the fucking, you know, we're a married couple.
joe rogan
And you're comics.
rich vos
Yeah. So you're talking shit.
Well, to be a male comic, you gotta be fucked up.
To be a female comic, that's a whole other level of fucking up.
Because, you know, they go on the road, they gotta worry about...
Everything. They gotta worry about fans.
joe rogan
Yeah, they gotta worry about fans attacking them.
rich vos
Where they're staying, what it's like.
joe rogan
Getting stalked.
Oh, yeah, it's horrible.
rich vos
And thank you for saying we're funny.
joe rogan
You guys are very funny.
I was using it as an example, because comics will say all the time, don't date comics.
And I'm like, I don't know about that.
I don't know about that, because I don't think you should never date blah.
Although I stopped dating Italians when I was 21. Oh, yeah?
Yeah, the last one swung at me.
I was like, I'm done.
rich vos
Well, I only date...
joe rogan
As she was swinging, I was like, I can't believe she's swinging at me.
rich vos
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
Like, while this was happening, her arm was pulling back.
It was coming towards my face like, I can't fucking believe this is happening.
rich vos
Well, I only date...
Irish. Like, I can't afford a Jew broad, so I went fucking Irish.
I'd rather go to fucking Marshalls than Barneys.
joe rogan
Well, also, the thing about Jewish women, the stereotype, is that they're very controlling.
It's like how the mom is.
It's like you take that role of the mom of the house, then your wife becomes your mom.
That's the stereotype.
I'm not saying it's always that way.
rich vos
A little naggy.
joe rogan
A little naggy.
rich vos
Yeah. And I mean, look, fucking Bonnie grew up on a farm killing chickens.
joe rogan
Perfect. She's good for when the revelation comes.
rich vos
And not only that, I have running water.
You know, they had a fucking, they slept on the floor.
She grew up like I did, poor.
And we started dating.
I mean, I was already in the business for I don't know how many years.
It's like, they say, don't date comics.
Yeah, well, if you're a new comic, and they're a new comic, it's going to be competition the whole time.
It's going to be jealousy.
But I was already established, and she was established.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it doesn't have to be.
It doesn't have to be.
It could be.
But these hard, fast rules, they don't work.
It all completely depends on the individual.
I mean, how different are comics?
Like, how different are you to Shane Gillis?
How different am I to Ari Shaffir?
Like, we're all different.
Even though we're all real good friends, we're all...
There's no hard rules.
rich vos
No. I luckily came up with one of the strongest crews in New York.
joe rogan
Oh, you came up with an amazing crew.
rich vos
Patrice? Patrice, Norton, Billy, Bobby, Colin, you know, Kevin Hart.
joe rogan
It was an amazing crew.
rich vos
You know, our crew.
joe rogan
Bro, I knew you back when you had Jerry Curls.
rich vos
You knew me when I was doing Robin Gibbons bits.
joe rogan
That's right.
It was the 80s.
rich vos
You don't remember.
You might remember.
We were working a one-nighter in Seaside, New Jersey.
It was my ex-wife.
And me, you, and her took a walk to the boardwalk.
We were in Seaside, right on the boardwalk.
And it was just me, you, and her.
I think you just came down from Boston.
And I don't think you were living in New York.
I think you were just doing some shows, some one-nighters and shit.
And we did a one-nighter.
Okay, I probably first...
It had to be...
I got 39 years with her.
Probably like...
38 years ago.
joe rogan
Oh, that doesn't even make sense, because I've been doing comedy for 30, let me see, 87, 37 years.
rich vos
Okay, so then, okay, I was with Bonnie, so, I mean, Kelly, so I had, you're right, I had.
joe rogan
That had to be like 1990 then.
rich vos
Yeah, I had like four years clean.
joe rogan
90 was when I first started coming to New York.
Okay. You were already clean?
rich vos
Yeah, and I was already married.
So yeah, I had five years clean.
So it was maybe like 34 years ago, or 35. So yeah, we're working a one-nighter, and I remember walking up the street, me, you, and Bonnie, to the boardwalk.
I mean, Kelly.
joe rogan
To the boardwalk.
rich vos
To the boardwalk, and it was just some one-nighter.
And then, I don't know if we ever...
Worked again together.
Oh, well, Dangerfields.
We did some stuff.
joe rogan
We did Caroline's together, too.
I remember doing Caroline's with you.
Oh, we did a lot of Dangerfields shows together.
Yeah. Did we ever do prom shows together?
unidentified
Yes! Oh, Jesus!
joe rogan
Viva should know what prom shows are.
So, New York has a very weird thing where they take kids from, like, Staten Island and Brooklyn, and they bring them in in fucking buses.
To Dangerfields, and the show would run from like 7 p.m. till 5 in the morning.
rich vos
No break.
joe rogan
No break.
Just you would go one show, and you'd get paid by the show.
It was good money.
I forget what it was, but it was like, you get paid by, like you can make a couple grand in a night if you did the whole night.
So you would do stand-up from 7 p.m. till like 5 a.m.
rich vos
But sometimes some of the shows were the same, some of the same crowd.
joe rogan
Most of the shows.
Yeah. They didn't move the people out.
They just pushed new kids in.
And they wanted you to do the same joke so that the kids would leave.
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So we were...
rich vos
Doing proms at Dangerfields.
And this is all young kids, you know, getting ready to go to college.
And Ronnie goes on.
He walks on stage in a robe, drunk.
He's not doing comedy.
He's talking about his divorce or death.
And all these kids are just, they're all looking at him like the jury from My Cousin Vinny.
When they were looking at the stuttering lawyer, their eyes were just going, what is going on with this man?
And he just, it was the most depressing.
And then I think Brian Regan had to follow him.
And the fact, I mean, if you look at your career and some of mine and Brian Regan, we were doing prom shows.
Yeah. I did, I did a, there was a contest at Rascals and I think the winner got to do comedy on a plane.
joe rogan
That was back when they smoked on place.
rich vos
Yeah, and I think John Stort was one of the contestants.
Like, I remember doing, I remember doing, or else it was a Johnny Walker competition.
I was there, it was like me, John Stort, Jim Gaffigan, you know, to do some Johnny Walker tour.
I don't fucking know whatever the contest was, but it was all these contests.
unidentified
But you would see, look, I worked.
rich vos
Fucking clubs.
I was working one club once, and after the show, it was in Scranton, PA at a Holiday Inn, me and another comic.
After the show, the owner brings us in the back room and pulls out a gigantic bag of Coke and says, do you want Coke or money?
And I took the Coke.
And the guy who took the money is Adam Sandler, and look where he is, and look where I am.
Adam Sandler took the money and he opened up.
He was a guitar comic and he opened up.
joe rogan
That was a Nick's Comedy Stop thing, Coker Money.
rich vos
Oh yeah, I worked there.
unidentified
In Boston?
joe rogan
Did they offer you Coker Money back then?
rich vos
And I was getting high because when I first started comedy, somehow they...
What was his name?
Dominic and Jackie Gateman or something, they liked me for some reason.
I stunk, but they would give me spots at Nick's, and I would get either money or...
But I would buy Coke from Mike, the drug dealer that the Colombians killed.
He was their Coke dealer up there.
I would stay behind the connection at the Milner Hotel, which was all prostitutes and drug addicts, right?
And, you know, I would go up there, and Nick's was...
Giving me shows upstairs, downstairs.
So the one time, the last time I was up in Boston, I did Springfield Mass and Westfield Mass.
252 Elm and some other Norm LaFoe shit.
joe rogan
Norm LaFoe, Western Massachusetts.
rich vos
So then I went to Nick's.
I go, I'm not spending my money on drugs.
I'm coming home with fucking money, right?
So I'm working this place called Plums in Worcester.
And this waitress, oh, fucking smoking hot.
After the show, because I did some coke bits.
She goes, you do coke?
I go, yeah.
I go, do you know where I can get any coke?
And we couldn't get any coke in Boston.
We drove from Boston.
I went back to New York.
Bought a bunch of...
Crack. We got a hotel, smoked all night.
We had sex, this and that.
And it was Saturday night.
And I'm 40 minutes from home.
And I have one more show in Boston on a Sunday.
And I have to drive her all the way back to Boston.
No money left.
Maybe $10 or $20.
Just enough.
To get back to Boston.
Luggage in a fucking paper bag.
We stop on the way up in Hartford.
We try to buy coke or heroin and we got ripped off.
She's crying because she's going to lose her job.
Fucking blood started pouring out of my nose as we're driving.
Just pouring out.
I swear to God.
Well. And then she goes, my sister wants an ounce of Coke.
So I was going to set her up and rip her off.
Oh, boy.
You know, get a free ounce of Coke.
Well, anyhow, two weeks later, I end up in rehab.
That was my bottom.
That fucking trip to Boston.
I end up in rehab.
And about a year or two later, I'm working Fort Lauderdale.
And her sister's there.
With her boyfriend, who's the size of a fucking house.
So if I did rip her off, I would have gotten fucking the shit killed, beaten out of me.
You know, what are the odds?
So that last trip to Boston, and I spent all the money I wasn't going to spend, but this girl was fucking hot, you know.
Then I came out of rehab, and I think I had like a month or two months clean, and I'm working on Daytona Beach.
This fucking wait, where?
unidentified
I don't know.
I was, I had bad teeth, fucking jerry curl.
rich vos
And my wife says this.
She saw videos of me from Ralph's and she goes, you're such a mess, but you had so much confidence.
And girls like confidence, right?
Because I would be on stage, fucking rotten teeth and fucking grease dripping out of my hair.
So I had a fucking mess.
I looked like a fucking rat.
And this hot waitress in Daytona.
We go back to her place, and I'm making out with her, and something tastes funny.
I go, what?
And she pulls out a bag of Coke, and I had like a month clean, two months.
I go, I can't do that.
I gotta get out of here.
I mean, I fucked her, but then I left real quick, you know.
You know, and it was scary.
joe rogan
So you never bounced back?
You never went back to drugs?
rich vos
No, no.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
rich vos
39 years ago.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
You have one fall off, and you're like, I'm done.
rich vos
Well, I mean, here's, for me now, And, you know, as the years accumulated, you know, I was working, I was saving money, I was buying.
You know, if I went and got high now, this watch alone would kill me.
I could pawn this watch.
Right. It would be enough money for me to die.
Right. You know, money I've hidden around the house.
You know, no one's going to find it.
Don't even think, hey, we're going to go to Voss's house and find his money.
This shit is fucking hidden well.
So go fuck yourselves.
So anyhow, I'll die.
Look, for a year, and I got to get back on track, I stopped eating, not keto, but cut back on carbs, sugar.
I did real well for a year.
I mean, I was fucking ripping up again.
And from my age, and it's harder, my daughter comes upstairs and goes, oh, I made homemade chocolate chip cookies.
I go, oh, give me one.
Well, the seventh cookie I had to throw in the garbage.
The seventh, I go, I can't, I gotta stop.
So that's how my fucking mind is.
There's no one time.
What the fuck?
I play golf and guys are drinking a beer.
I go, what the fuck are you doing?
We like to taste.
unidentified
Fuck off.
rich vos
Gatorade tastes good.
You drink to get drunk.
What are you drinking a beer?
You know?
And it's just...
And then on stage, if I go, I quit.
Somebody goes, quit it.
Shut the fuck up.
You're here having wine coolers, bitch.
Sell your mother's car to get high.
Go fuck yourself.
Wow. You don't know anything about getting high.
joe rogan
You're fighting when people aren't even here.
rich vos
I know.
I'm just telling you.
unidentified
This is strange.
joe rogan
You're in the shower arguing with these guys.
unidentified
Do you know how many fucking arguments I've had?
rich vos
I thought you were going to bring in your whole pro-Palestinian crew that I was going to fight today.
Which I have stuff printed out.
We'll read later.
We'll read later.
But that's so funny.
You don't ever lay in bed or have arguments with people that you've never had.
joe rogan
I did when I was young.
Yeah, I figured that out when I was younger.
This is stupid.
And when the impulse comes, which it does, I go, this is stupid.
I talk to myself.
I just coach myself.
You've got to have another voice in your head.
Most people have one voice in their head, and that voice is like, we should go get high, or we should do this.
You have to have a second voice.
And the second voice is like, what advice would I give me?
And the advice I'd give me is like, you're wasting your time arguing in the shower with someone who doesn't even...
They don't even know you're arguing with them.
rich vos
I know, it's true.
joe rogan
You're not even there.
You're like replaying it out in your head so you could have had a better thing to say to them.
rich vos
They say they're living rent-free in your head.
joe rogan
Yes, that's what it is.
Yeah, I don't allow anybody in my head.
rich vos
No, I had the second voice.
I do, and I'm not religious by any, but I'll say, you know, God, get me off.
You know, what should I do?
What's my purpose?
Or what can I do?
In life, you know, look, my main purpose in life, besides being, my main purpose is staying sober, because if I don't, I'm dead easily, and everything I throw away.
Then my family, obviously, you know, and my career, you know.
All the shit I put about Israel, this and that, that's, my life is comedy.
But I think in life, if you're not part of the...
Like I said, solution you're part of the problem with what's going on in this world, mainly in this country, the anti-Semitism in this country.
joe rogan
The anti-Semitism in this country is weird because it popped up like it was hiding.
You know, after October 7th, it popped up like it was hiding.
Like, what?
Has this been here the whole time?
It was weird.
And I think there's a lot of it on Twitter in these places that I think is not human beings.
And that inspires human beings to get bold.
I think there's a lot of it that's bots.
There's a lot of it that's bots.
I see these...
When someone says something outrageous on Twitter, I'll go to the account and see what they're doing.
And sometimes I go, oh, this isn't a person.
You can figure it out after a couple of pages.
This is not an actual person.
This is a person that jumps onto every...
Controversial subject and says something insightful.
They do it over and over again.
And you see it with abortion.
You see it with immigration.
You see it with voting.
You see it with the rigged elections.
There was an FBI analyst who took a look at Twitter before the purchase and he said, I think it's as much as 80% bots.
I think we're getting played as a civilization, back and forth.
I think so many people are vulnerable to following a narrative.
rich vos
And I've said this, and I believe in free speech.
When we talked about this, you didn't agree with it.
joe rogan
I didn't agree with free speech?
rich vos
No, no, no.
What I said about the internet, that some people in life use that platform.
Shouldn't have a platform in life because they're nuts.
They're nuts.
Like if you had somebody in the audience that's nuts, you're going to take them out.
You're going to get rid of them.
joe rogan
Right, but that's the difference between an audience and the internet is you don't have to engage with the nuts.
rich vos
Okay, but there's people that are following these nuts.
Okay, you take whatever's going on in the Middle East, whatever side you're on.
Israel, Palestine, whatever.
Why are college campuses letting this happen on campus where Jews can't go to class, where they're being harassed, where they feel threatened?
joe rogan
Well, a lot of that stuff is funded.
rich vos
Yeah, it's funded by Qatar or whatever.
joe rogan
Or whatever.
Whoever is doing it, most certainly there's funding and organization involved.
These aren't organic protests that just pop up.
rich vos
No, of course.
joe rogan
Everybody wants to think they are because some people join organically.
They hop in, but it's not.
These are all being organized.
rich vos
Of course.
joe rogan
Including the anti-Elon protests, including the end-to-oligarchy rallies that they have.
The O.C. and Bernie Sanders.
All this shit is getting funded and astroturfed and they're bussing people in.
They're manufacturing a movement.
rich vos
Of course.
I mean, listen.
They didn't all go out and buy the same tents.
And there's, I don't know how many that are getting funded and then they bring in, you know, it's just like...
joe rogan
The tents are crazy.
We're going to camp out for Palestine.
rich vos
It's just like, you know...
I don't want to get into the 80s and foreclosures on farms.
joe rogan
Farm aid?
rich vos
Well, when banks were foreclosing on farms, Jews were going, look, the Jews are foreclosing on our farm to Jewish bankers.
And they weren't even the bankers doing it.
It was the Wasp bankers.
Jews barely worked at Chase Manhattan in the early 80s or 70s.
joe rogan
But they blamed the Jews.
rich vos
But they blamed because it's easy to go after.
You know, so throughout the Midwest or the South, it's easier to build up hatred or a group to go after a smaller group going, hey, these people are closing on your farms.
These are the people that are doing it.
And these people don't have the knowledge and the hate just grows and grows from generation to generation.
Does that make sense?
Yes. So, you know, same with, you know, the...
Look, I got shit I printed out.
I'll show it later, maybe.
I don't know.
Listen, I'm a comic, but you see what I post sometimes.
I post some shit, and I'm not anti...
I'm not anti...
joe rogan
You're pro-Israel.
rich vos
I'm just pro-Israel.
joe rogan
You're pro-Jew.
rich vos
I'm pro-Jew in this country.
And I'm not religious by any stretch.
I don't fucking...
I think it's a holiday now.
It's Passover or something.
I don't fucking know.
I'm not religious.
My cousins were.
My family wasn't black.
joe rogan
You think about it as a people.
rich vos
I think about it as, yes, as a people.
You know, if what was happening in this world to black people or gay people, these colleges would put an end to it.
It would stop.
If people were ripping down posters of hostages, of black hostages or gay hostages when that was happening...
It wouldn't happen.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was crazy.
That was crazy where people were upset that people wanted people to bring the hostages home.
Like, these hostages, some of them were aid workers.
Some of them were people that, like, lived there so they could help people in Gaza.
The whole thing is so crazy.
But I wonder, like, how did they get turned that way?
Or were they, like what I said, like they were in hiding?
As a person who's not a Jew, I would hear about all the anti-Semitism.
Like, yeah, there's always going to be some.
But maybe everyone's exaggerating.
But then when this, after October 7th, it was just like, oh, Jesus.
It's fucking everywhere.
rich vos
What's your background?
Italian. Italian.
joe rogan
Yeah, mostly.
One quarter Irish.
rich vos
Okay. If every surrounding country was attacked in Italy, you're going to fight back.
By any means necessary.
joe rogan
I 100% get it.
rich vos
Can I show you some pictures?
Okay. Now, we don't have to do it.
unidentified
We can talk.
rich vos
I don't know.
I've got to do a little of it.
A little.
joe rogan
Whatever you want.
I don't care.
Do whatever you want.
I'm joking around.
But yeah, no, I understand.
And I think that's also one of the things that people like.
rich vos
My wife should keep away.
Go ahead.
joe rogan
When people get angry about Jews is because they think that Jews always stick together.
And they like Jews above all else.
And then it's like, fuck those people.
You know, there's like that walled garden approach, you know.
unidentified
What do you got there?
joe rogan
You got a manila envelope like you're in fucking court.
Look at this.
rich vos
What do you got?
joe rogan
Charts? Did you bring graphs?
What's that first page?
Is that a photo of Israel?
What is it?
You got a map?
You brought maps?
unidentified
He brought maps for me.
This is the dumbest shit I've ever seen from you.
rich vos
Look at the dot.
Look at the size of Israel.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's very small.
rich vos
Look at who they're surrounded by.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're surrounded by a bunch of Muslims.
Not a good spot to be if you're a Jew.
They should have probably moved to a different spot.
It's like, you know, you know what I mean?
rich vos
No, I've got other better stuff.
I just start off with the weaker stuff.
joe rogan
If you're a black guy and you move into a KKK neighborhood, that's like, you're going to have problems.
rich vos
Yeah, I mean, so...
joe rogan
It is kind of crazy.
rich vos
Wouldn't you think...
By any means necessary, they're gonna do what they fucking have to do to survive.
joe rogan
Yes. I totally think they would, and I understand that aspect of it.
Is that your fault?
rich vos
Yeah, I gotta turn it off.
Sorry. My wife.
I don't know how she got my number.
Start the car.
joe rogan
It is crazy when you look at the map.
It's not just that they're surrounded, but they're surrounded by everyone.
It's all enormous countries.
rich vos
I mean...
joe rogan
All the way up.
It's interesting.
You go down Saudi Arabia, the end of it, you forget.
Oh, it's Ethiopia's right there.
rich vos
And then, I mean, Turkey hates Israel.
Fucking Iran, you know, they're being attacked by four or five different nations at once.
And everybody's going, well, you know...
They're committing genocide.
First of all, those numbers are coming from Hamas.
Where do you think those numbers are coming from?
joe rogan
Okay, but the drone footage isn't coming from Hamas.
The drone footage is real.
If you cover Gaza with a drone, there's nothing left.
It's pretty nuts.
rich vos
Well, I bet you if they released the hostages October 10th, none of this shit would have happened.
joe rogan
That's true.
rich vos
None of this shit would have happened.
During the Clinton administration, Arafat was in the White House probably six or seven times.
The head of the CIA, during the Clinton administration, visited the White House twice.
Arafat, six or seven times.
And they offered a two-state solution.
That would have been Clinton's legacy.
To have peace in the two states.
But Arafat kept turning it down because Arafat's a terrorist.
And if he does that, what purpose does he serve?
What purpose?
joe rogan
Is it that simple?
rich vos
Well, to me it is because I'm not the smartest.
joe rogan
That's part of the problem.
Part of the problem with Israel and Palestine.
And I've sat down and thought about this conflict.
Not that I'm an expert either.
But it's almost insurmountable.
And then now, after October 7th, with all the bombings, when they leveled Gaza, it's like, how do you fix this?
It's like, there's no...
You've created whatever the numbers are, whether it's 70,000 people or 20,000 people that have been killed that are innocents.
You've created so many more potential terrorists because so many of the children of those people and the brothers and sisters and relatives of those people.
So it's like reinforced this desire to fight against Israel.
rich vos
But we...
joe rogan
You know, and you could squash that.
You could just keep pounding them down until there's nothing left, which is what it seems that they're doing.
But... And I understand it from a tactical perspective, I guess.
rich vos
Do we have that animosity and hatred from Japan towards us where we dropped, you know, killed 350,000 people?
joe rogan
Well, they did for a while.
They certainly did for a long while.
I had friends who'd go to Japan in the 70s and they said you could feel the hatred.
rich vos
Yeah, but now it's 55 years later.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're not like that at all now.
But it's a totally, completely different generation.
So you think future generations will think about Israel the same way we think about Japan?
Or Japan thinks about us?
rich vos
No, because future generations in the Middle East, this has been going since day one, since the Six-Day War, since the Yom Kippur War, since day one they've been being attacked.
So there's never...
joe rogan
Well, it's also before Israel was founded, you got to go back to how they were being persecuted in Europe.
It was in session.
There's this guy, Daryl Cooper, is a lightning rod for controversy, unfortunately, but he's got an amazing podcast.
He's got this series called Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem.
And it starts out with the Jews being persecuted in Europe.
And he takes you through what it would have been like for those people and the gangs of people roaming down the streets, raping women.
Beating men to death in the streets.
And it's so crazy because it's real.
It happened.
And it was these people's neighbors.
And, you know, this was why they got so many people to move to Israel in the first place.
Yeah. Because when they said, look, we're setting up a state for just for Jews from all these Eastern European Jews are like, OK, we're in.
And they moved.
I mean, you know, and then.
rich vos
And they've also been there since Christ.
I mean, they've been in Israel.
joe rogan
Even before that, right?
rich vos
A couple weeks.
joe rogan
But I think it predates.
Doesn't it predate Jesus?
rich vos
Yeah. I mean, I'm not a historian.
This isn't my whole life.
joe rogan
Let's find out.
Let's find out since we can.
What is the earliest...
When did Jews first settle the land that's now known as Israel?
It was Judea back then, right?
What was it called?
What was it initially called?
Miami. But also, this is like, you know, this is one of the reasons why this area is so contentious is because Christians really believe that when Jesus comes back, that's where he's going to come.
rich vos
He's coming back to Jerusalem.
joe rogan
He's going to come back to Jerusalem like, are you fucking sure?
rich vos
But here's another thing, too.
And I'm not, listen.
I'm not going to be that guy.
Oh, I had a Muslim.
joe rogan
There we go.
Jews have been a history in the land of Israel.
Their presence dating back to the second millennial BCE.
Okay. Settling in the area around 1,250 BCE.
So that predates Jesus by 1,250 years.
It's funny they call it before current era.
Like current era is not 2,000 years ago.
Just say before Jesus, you motherfuckers.
That's what I say.
Second millennial BCE, the Israelites, considered to be the ancestors of the Jewish people, emerged as an outgrowth of the southern Canaanites.
The Israelites entered Canaan in 1250 BCE, settling the hill country in the south.
10th century BCE, two Israelite kingdoms, northern kingdom of Israel and the southern kingdom of Judea, emerged.
Of Judah, rather, emerged.
The Kingdom of Israel was conquered by the Neo-Assyrian Empire in 722 BCE.
And in 586 BCE, the Kingdom of Judah was conquered by the Neo-Babylonian Empire.
538 BCE, the Persian Cyrus the Great ended the Babylonian exile and the Jews returned to their homeland.
So they've been there since 538 BCE, started in 1250 BCE.
So they were there before anybody.
Yeah. The Romans destroyed the second temple of Jerusalem in 70, current era, leading to the Jewish dysphoria.
Wow. Crazy fucking history of controversy in that one place.
48, the state of Israel was established.
Many Holocaust survivors welcomed it as a homeland.
rich vos
Yeah, in 48. And since then, they've been at war.
joe rogan
And so they started settling.
Another wave of Jews started coming in 1904.
From 1904 to 1914.
rich vos
So... Yeah.
538 BCE.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the problem is, we're Palestinians there, and they don't even have a country.
If you've got people that are right next to you that don't even have a country, what do they do if they're ruled by Hamas?
How do they fight back?
They are protesting in the streets now.
rich vos
They are against Hamas.
joe rogan
Yeah, they get executed.
rich vos
Did you just see that?
Yes. The big protest?
I just saw that.
joe rogan
Thousands and thousands of courageous people protesting in the street.
It's... They're like, we don't want any more of this.
rich vos
Stop. Well, look what happened.
They got...
I mean, Kus of Israel's help got Assad out of Syria.
Now the rebels took over, but Assad killed...
Almost 500,000 of his own people tortured 100,000.
I mean, those are the numbers I read.
I don't know if they're exact, but he's gone.
joe rogan
There's a lot of controversy about Assad in Syria.
There's a lot of controversy about what actually happened and why we were backing the rebels.
We essentially backed ISIS, which is crazy.
We backed Al-Qaeda, which is just nuts.
rich vos
But he was more dangerous.
In Syria.
According to Iran.
Well, also according to Israel, because Israel weakened Iran's military after they were attacked by Iran, who was supplying Assad with weapons.
joe rogan
You know what's really fucked?
Before Iran became a religious state, women were, like, wearing miniskirts.
They were hot.
There was freedom everywhere.
People were chilling.
It seemed almost like Europe.
rich vos
Probably like a resort, vacation.
They were beautiful.
joe rogan
Oh, they were gorgeous women.
Persian women of incredible genes.
It's like you look at these photos.
See if you can find some photos of Iran early 1970s.
I was seeing some things on it this morning, actually, on the way over here.
Or before I left my house, I was seeing this.
It's so hard to imagine that a place that had a democratically elected leader was kind of almost European.
And then now, now it's just a full religious state.
And anybody who protests against the government gets assassinated.
They assassinated an Olympic gold medalist wrestler because he was...
Perceived to be protesting.
I don't even know if he actually protested.
It was like some things that you post online.
Like if women take off their headscarves, they can get killed.
It's crazy that a country can fall like that.
rich vos
I don't get where gays or women or whatever are backing.
They're basically backing Hamas.
Yeah. I don't get it.
joe rogan
They're retarded.
rich vos
I don't get it.
joe rogan
Because they just do the new thing.
What's the new thing?
Is it climate change?
Why am I yelling?
Climate change?
Okay, climate change!
Do Black Lives Matter?
Okay, Black Lives Matter!
It's all it is.
There's a lot of people out there that are just retarded, and those are the people that you see getting bust into these rallies, and there's just a lot of dopes that you can get to agree with almost anything.
And there's gay people for Hamas, believe it or not.
Trans people for Hamas.
rich vos
It's fucking...
joe rogan
I know.
rich vos
Blacks for the Klan.
joe rogan
It's hard to tell how many of them are real because there's a few people that troll online and they'll pretend, you know, I'm a trans woman, but I'm also a Muslim.
Like, okay.
They will throw you off a fucking roof, bitch.
rich vos
No, there's none left.
joe rogan
There's no roofs left.
There's a couple of high points.
It's just hard to get to them.
rich vos
Obviously, as a comic, I believe in the First Amendment.
I say shit that...
You can't cancel me.
Anyhow, I believe, and maybe I'm wrong and maybe you disagree.
I want to see your opinion.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Iran for the 1970s.
Look, girls in miniskirts looking hot.
rich vos
That looks like...
joe rogan
Europe. Look at this.
Girls sitting in front of a car.
Cute little outfit on.
rich vos
She'd be fucking killed doing that now.
joe rogan
Yeah. Look at the beaches in Iran in the 1970s.
Isn't that fucking crazy?
rich vos
No litter.
joe rogan
Look at these.
unidentified
God damn it.
rich vos
Look at the tits on that one.
joe rogan
Hot. One lady, though, that was the future.
The future's in the lower right corner, covered up like Yoda.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
That's what happened to that place.
Like, look at these people all hanging out, being free.
1979 is when it all went to shit.
And they call it the revolution, but...
unidentified
I think it was U.S.-backed, son.
rich vos
Okay, what's your opinion?
It's my opinion.
Free speech.
Protest all you want at colleges.
Protest wherever.
But take off the masks.
joe rogan
I think you should take off the masks, period.
I don't believe in a society where people walk around with their faces covered.
I think it's too dangerous.
It's a public safety issue.
It's too hard to identify criminals.
It's too hard to identify someone who commits a crime.
rich vos
During the Vietnam protests, there was never a mask.
Those people were proud.
To protest against the Vietnam War.
joe rogan
But there also wasn't facial recognition.
Software and cameras in the sky.
It was like, you know, there's a lot of configurations.
unidentified
That's true.
That's true.
rich vos
But now they're hiding and they're committing, to me, some crimes on campus, I think.
joe rogan
Well, they're certainly doing a lot of things they shouldn't be allowed to do, like disrupting classes and screaming at professors.
And it's organized.
rich vos
Yeah, it's organized.
And people join in because...
They want to be a part of the group.
And there's a lot of people in this world.
There's leaders and there's followers.
And there's a lot of followers.
joe rogan
More followers than leaders.
rich vos
Yes, than leaders in the world.
So we'll get off of this because I know we're kind of...
You want your map back?
No, I have other things in there.
I have other good points in there.
joe rogan
It is a good point though, but it's like when you have people that are...
Bitter enemies like this.
These kind of conflicts take thousands of years to work through.
And in the case of Israel, it is thousands of years old.
rich vos
It's... Look, how are they going to win anything through the UN when there's 22, 23 Arab countries in the UN and Israel?
So everything is going to be voted against.
Yeah. Israel.
They're 22, 23 fucking Arab.
Like I said, I can't solve or whatever.
Is it unfair?
Is it whatever?
My concern is what's going on in this country.
That's my main concern.
My daughter's going to college.
I don't want her to go to a college where she feels scared to go to class.
Where she feels threatened.
Just to be who she is.
joe rogan
Tell her to go to college in Texas.
rich vos
Yeah, I know.
I wanted to go to, you know.
joe rogan
They have concealed carry on college campuses here.
rich vos
You know, it's so...
joe rogan
Yeah, this is a different place.
rich vos
It's a different time.
joe rogan
This is what America, like, is supposed to be in a lot of ways.
You know, it's supposed to be a lot more free.
Less laws.
But, you know, there's a lot of laws here that are kind of crazy.
You know, the abortion thing, the six-week thing.
Most women don't even know they're pregnant that quickly.
rich vos
I think if a woman...
joe rogan
If a woman?
rich vos
If a lady, a woman...
Okay, I told you I walked out in 11th grade.
If a lady, I think, does all her chores, I think once a week she should be able to wear slacks.
Abortion to me...
It's not really...
I think a man...
I could be wrong.
If you're married or you live with your spouse, the male might have, what, 20%, 25% of the decision, maybe 30%.
But some single guy probably never had a girlfriend, never lived with a girl.
Shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up.
You know what?
You just want to be part of something.
joe rogan
Well, people love controlling people, though.
They really do.
Which is why...
You know, those climate protests drove me fucking crazy where they would protest for climate change by blocking the highway.
Those fucking idiots.
All they want to do is control people.
That's what they want to do.
You're not changing anyone's mind.
rich vos
No, not at all.
joe rogan
Holding a flag in the middle of the highway.
You're just pissing people off.
But you're controlling people by stopping traffic.
And that's what people like to do.
They like to control people.
rich vos
And they don't know if somebody's...
Giving birth or somebody has to get to the hospital or for anything.
It's all self-centered.
I'm more important than you.
Don't paint on somebody with a fur.
They should turn around and fucking...
Beat the daylights out of them.
Or these fucking climate people walking into the Reich Museum or the Van Gogh and throwing paint on a fucking...
joe rogan
Or gluing yourself to the wall.
rich vos
Yeah, what the...
joe rogan
It's crazy.
unidentified
You see what they did at the Porsche dealership?
joe rogan
They glued themselves to the floor and the Porsche dealership, they just shut the lights off and left them in there.
Really? Yeah, fuck you.
They came back the next day.
They glued their hands to the floor.
They thought they were going to stop everything and they were like, okay, good.
We'll just shut the doors.
Shut the doors, leave them in there to shit themselves.
rich vos
Good! Porsches are nice cars.
Why would they attack Porsches?
joe rogan
They're only doing it because they know it'll get attention.
That's all it is.
It's usually a bunch of very privileged rich kids, white kids, that come from a family that has a lot of wealth and to rebel against their parents or probably fucking investment bankers or something.
They decide they're going to fight climate change, man.
They don't even understand what they're fighting.
They don't understand the science.
They don't.
It's complex.
It's multilateralism.
And there's a lot of propaganda that's attached to what they call the green agenda.
Because the green agenda, like all things that are big and public, is profitable.
They have a bunch of companies that if they can get these laws pushed forward, they can have industries that emerge and their industry can benefit from all these laws.
And so they'll fund protests.
They'll get people to do things.
But it's all 4D chess.
There's all these multiple layers of things happening.
And then there's the inconvenient actual climate data that the Washington Post printed that showed that over the last 50 million years, we're in a decline.
The Earth is in a cooling period.
You probably know this, but for people who don't, there's never been a static temperature on Earth.
It's always gone up and down wildly.
It's unpredictable.
It has multiple factors.
Carbon is probably one of them.
But it's not the big one.
It's not all of it.
There's solar activity that you can't control at all.
Solar flares happen, and some of them happen.
They've happened in the early 1800s.
They blew out all the fucking Morse code systems.
There was a big solar flare in the 1800s.
Let's see if you can find that.
They could blow out the power grid.
Easy. Kill all the satellites.
Easy. What carbon is is food for plants.
It's the dumbest fucking thing to protest against.
Pollution is a giant issue.
Yeah, do we have an impact on the weather?
I'm sure we do.
We have an impact on fucking everything.
But CO2, net zero, all this shit, this is nonsense.
Carrington event.
Most intense geomagnetic storm recorded history peaking on...
1 to 2 September 1859, during a solar cycle tent, created strong auroral displays that reported globally and caused sparking and even fires in telegraph stations.
The geomagnetic storm was most likely the result of a coronal mass ejection from the sun colliding with Earth's magnetosphere.
So if we have some of those in the future...
It could do anything.
Let's see, a geomagnetic storm of this magnitude occurring today has the potential to cause widespread electrical disruptions, blackouts, and damage to the electrical power grid.
We've got real problems.
Real problems.
And you're not going to solve it with electric cars.
You're just not.
You're not going to solve it with windmills.
rich vos
No. Look, if you drive...
Up the Jersey Turnpike or anywhere.
And the factories and the lights and all the smoke and all that shit.
Just everything.
All right?
Me turning off my light bulb is not going to make a fucking difference compared...
joe rogan
Particularly when you look at the emissions that come from China.
Yes. China is an enormous, enormous contributor to carbon emissions.
And not just carbon emissions, but pollutants, particulates.
They're not stopping.
They built 200 new coal plants.
You know, they're not going to stop.
No matter what we do, they're going to do what's best for China financially, period.
End of discussion.
All these conversations they're having about net zero.
Go fuck yourself.
You're not going to stop that.
rich vos
Okay, and this is what...
They're looking out for their best interests.
That's what they're doing.
Just like every other fucking country is basically doing is survival.
And that's my point with Israel.
They're looking out for what's going to keep us from being extinguished off this fucking planet.
And, you know, whatever it takes.
That's what the Jews, and I'm getting back on this because you lost me on all that shit.
What the Jews need is a Malcolm X of Jews.
Oh boy.
Look, Malcolm X was great.
He didn't say go after the white man.
He said do what we have to do.
joe rogan
Why don't you do that?
Why don't you be the Malcolm X for the Jews?
Maybe that's your calling.
rich vos
My vocabulary.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
There's no way to...
Tighten that up a little bit?
rich vos
I could a little, a little with Bonnie's help.
I fired my manager two weeks ago and I had her write it out for me because I knew I would have said something fucked up and mean.
Oh, that's smart.
And another thing, I go, hey listen, you know, seven years, it's time to move on and I hope we can still be friends.
And he went, definitely.
Not like, are you sure?
Maybe we could work this out.
It's like when you fucking leave a girl.
joe rogan
She's like, great.
rich vos
Okay. Wait, whoa.
Come on, I added something.
Fight for me.
So, yeah, I would love to speak in colleges or maybe that's...
Let it cool down.
joe rogan
Give it a year or so.
rich vos
Give it a year.
I probably wouldn't be able to get to the auditorium.
joe rogan
Trump said the wildest shit about Gaza.
We're going to turn it into the Mediterranean of the Middle East.
What? We're going to take it.
rich vos
But he keeps saying, and I don't follow...
You know, if you don't release the hostages, there's hell to pay.
Well, what has hell...
What has he done to help release the hostages?
I mean, now they're being attacked by fucking Yemen.
You know, I mean, what...
I don't know.
Release the fucking hostages, and then maybe things...
joe rogan
How many hostages are left now?
rich vos
What is it, 70?
I don't know, because they keep dropping it.
You know, four hostages for a thousand prisoners or whatever.
joe rogan
Is that what they're doing?
rich vos
Whatever. It's a trade-off.
How many prisoners?
They got to give them for a hostage.
And, you know, this would have never went on in this country.
We would not have put up for it.
I mean, we did with Carter with the Iranian hostages.
Yeah, 200.
They were there for what?
Two years?
joe rogan
Well, they kept him there until Reagan was in office.
Yeah. They kept him there until after the election.
That was part of the deal.
Yeah. Part of the deal was you release these folks after Reagan takes over so that Carter can get credit for it.
Yeah. I'm sure.
rich vos
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That was written.
joe rogan
Imagine you're in there and you're like, Jesus Christ, I've got to be in here for four more months so this guy gets credit.
It's fucking crazy.
rich vos
Well, did you hear?
I didn't see it.
I only read what?
These reporters and journalists, what she said on 60 Minutes, do you think the hostages didn't feed you because they ran out of food?
joe rogan
Oh, that Hamas didn't feed the hostages?
rich vos
Yeah, Leslie Stahl said that in an interview.
joe rogan
Did she really say that?
rich vos
In an interview, look it up.
She said that to one of the hostages.
Do you think they didn't...
And don't quote me because this is what I read.
I don't want to get sued by Leslie, whoever.
But I think she said what I read.
Do you think the...
The captors didn't feed you because they ran out of food.
joe rogan
That's a crazy thing to say to someone who's a hostage.
rich vos
Yeah, I mean...
joe rogan
That's crazy.
rich vos
On fucking 60 Minutes, a journalist, how do you say something like that?
joe rogan
That's a crazy thing to say.
But they're bad.
The problem with these 60 Minutes journalists is the same problem with what they did with the Kamala Harris interview where they took a bumbling answer and edited it out and put an answer that she gave to something else in its place to make it look like she gave succinct, clear-cut answers.
It's not really journalism.
They're not doing journalism.
That's not a question you say to a hostage.
When you're talking to a hostage, you want to find out what the experience was like in as compassionate a way as you can to talk to this person who's been through hell.
You don't ask them, do you ever think that maybe they didn't feed you because they didn't have any food themselves?
Well, here you go.
Look at what their face looks like and look at the sunken in faces of the starving to death hostages.
Well, obviously they didn't give them any food, so shut up.
rich vos
You can't watch their news.
You can't because you're going to go.
joe rogan
It's not news anymore.
rich vos
No, it's clickbait and it's fucking.
joe rogan
It's a business and it's a shitty business.
It's not good at doing what it does and it's all bought and paid for by pharmaceutical drug ads and it's just not the news.
It's not.
You get some information that you can learn, but it's not like the unbiased, this is what happened, this is what caused it, this is what's being done now.
It's not that.
It's like halfway, they're kind of almost activists.
rich vos
I had an argument with somebody close to me, because I go on Gutfeld, I try to go on once a month, like I said, and she says, oh, you're pro-Trump.
I go, I'm not pro anything or anti anything.
I go, I go on.
Where else is a comic going to sit for an hour?
Try to be funny.
joe rogan
On TV?
rich vos
Yeah, on TV.
For an hour.
There's not much left.
And it's definitely not going to be on the left because they're not going to let me say the things that I get away on the Gutfeld show.
And it's a great show.
I mean, it's...
If you say something funny, they laugh.
It's, to me, the closest to tough crowd.
Right. To me.
joe rogan
I see what you're saying.
rich vos
Not quite, but I know what you're saying.
Not quite, but it's, I mean, it's fun.
And it gets whatever views.
And I said to this person, you worked with the pharmaceutical companies for 30 years, and you're going to tell me.
unidentified
Did they really?
rich vos
Yeah. And you're going to go on your high horse about me doing a show that's going to help my career and build numbers.
And, well, it's not the same.
No. It's worse.
joe rogan
It's way worse.
unidentified
It's way worse.
joe rogan
The pharmaceutical drug companies are responsible for who knows how many deaths and injuries.
Yeah, they do good, too.
Absolutely. Some pharmaceutical drugs are great, but you can't be on your high horse.
You work for them.
That's crazy.
In any other business, they'd be in jail.
They'd be in fucking jail.
If you lied about what your product does and it kills a bunch of people, you're in jail.
rich vos
Can we talk about one of the reasons I'm here?
I don't know if you remember this.
I hope you do.
I had this torn rotator cuff.
And you said, come down.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're going to get you some stem cells.
rich vos
Now... What's the BPC?
joe rogan
BPC-157.
rich vos
Is that better?
Which is better for?
The stem cells or the BPC?
joe rogan
There's no one better.
They're all very good.
BPC-157 is called Body Protection Compound 157.
It's a peptide that helps heal soft tissue damage.
So do stem cells.
All those different things are good.
rich vos
Because I'm not getting my...
Shoulders operate on.
It's like a six-month...
joe rogan
It's rough.
rich vos
And it doesn't always work.
joe rogan
So what exactly is wrong with your shoulder?
rich vos
Well, this is a torn rotator cuff right here.
I even brought the disc, the x-ray.
joe rogan
Oh, great.
Did you do any exercises for it?
Did you do any rehabs for it?
rich vos
Not yet, because I was waiting to do this to see where this took me and how I would go from there.
joe rogan
But exercises are always good, like bands, like band work, where you do these kind of things.
You keep a towel pressed to your body so you hold it in place and do these rotations with bands.
All those things are good just to keep everything strong anyway.
Do you do any of that stuff?
rich vos
Not those yet.
I tried.
joe rogan
You ever hang from a chin-up bar?
You ever do this?
rich vos
No, for a torn rotator?
joe rogan
Yeah, just to strengthen and to release some pressure in your shoulders.
rich vos
Oh, really?
joe rogan
No, I couldn't.
It's good for shoulder health in general to hang from a chin-up bar.
And if you can't hang, what you do is, like, get on a box or something that brings you to the height of the bar and just hang a little.
Just get some weight on it until you can hang fully.
rich vos
I mean, look, I can...
I could still play golf.
I could swing like this.
joe rogan
That's good.
So they're totally fucked.
rich vos
Okay. So when I went to the doctor...
joe rogan
There's a lot of things you can do.
Rehabilitation things you can do that'll help you.
rich vos
Here's the only thing, and I could be wrong.
You'll know.
When they said, you know, rehab to build up the muscle.
But I'm...
67, how much more muscle am I building up?
joe rogan
If you're 167, you can build muscle.
That's a silly way to look at it.
rich vos
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Okay. 100%, if you're alive, that means your body's recovering.
Yeah. So that means your body's generating tissue.
That means you can build muscle.
Okay? If you can go play golf, you can build muscle.
Yes. 100%.
If you're 80 fucking years old and a woman, you can build muscle.
rich vos
I mean, I work out still.
I just certain exercises I can't do.
joe rogan
Yeah, just you need to do...
Exercises that rehabilitate your shoulder.
Yeah. You can't just expect it to get better on its own.
You're going to have to put it through some work to strengthen the muscles around it.
rich vos
Well, I'm going to, like I said, after I do this...
joe rogan
When are you leaving?
When are you flying out?
rich vos
Wednesday. Okay, great.
joe rogan
So we'll get you in tomorrow morning.
No worries.
Cool. Get you in the waist well, and we'll set it up.
rich vos
Did I bring the show to a dead hole with my map?
No! I thought it was a good conversation.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's good.
It's a good map.
rich vos
You know, I got more stuff.
I don't want to imagine.
Listen, I printed out a bunch of stuff.
I don't want to go back and have my fucking dumb Jew friends going, hey, you didn't bring anything up.
joe rogan
Oh, is that what they do?
Yes. Well, stop talking to them.
rich vos
Then my wife, don't say anything stupid.
joe rogan
Is that what she said?
unidentified
Sorry, Bonnie.
rich vos
You know, be funny.
I was pretty funny.
Listen, I'm a good interview.
unidentified
You're fine.
joe rogan
You're doing fine.
rich vos
You know what the best, not your best, what a great show would be?
What? Me, Colin, and Norton in here.
joe rogan
Oh, that'd be phenomenal.
That'd be phenomenal.
Just like, tough crowd.
Yeah. You probably couldn't do it today unless you did it on the internet.
But you could still do it on the internet.
Like, Colin should really bring it back.
rich vos
I know.
joe rogan
There's plenty of guys that could still do it.
Like, Norton would be fucking phenomenal at it.
rich vos
We just did Norton's podcast.
Me, Colin, and Norton.
Whatever podcast.
He's got 12 of them.
And it was...
One of the most funniest things when it comes out you'll ever hear.
Us three together, it's like a fucking...
joe rogan
You get back in the old groove again, you know?
rich vos
Yeah, because we're just there to have fun.
We're there to have fun.
joe rogan
Tough Crowd and Opie and Anthony were huge for comedy.
Huge. Because Opie and Anthony, one of the things that they did that was brilliant is they just let us just go wild.
Just be ourselves.
They didn't really try to control it at all.
You know, Anthony would jump in with some funny shit, but the whole show was like, bring on a bunch of comics, have him talk a bunch of shit, give him the reins.
rich vos
I mean, I was in there one day, Anthony was eating a piece of cake, I walked by him and smacked it out of his hand.
He laughed as hard as anybody on the planet, because...
The times we had in there.
I was on there with...
joe rogan
Were you with me when they brought in Marion Barry?
No. You weren't there?
You weren't there?
rich vos
Marion Barry?
joe rogan
Marion Barry, the fucking...
rich vos
The mayor.
joe rogan
The mayor of Washington, D.C. They got arrested for smoking crack.
rich vos
No, you were in there with him?
Yes. Oh, that had to be a blast.
We grabbed him.
joe rogan
We grabbed him.
I thought you were in there.
Norton was in there for sure.
He was next door doing something and doing another interview.
And he was in the hallway.
And I think Opie said, Marion Barry's in the hallway right now.
I'm like, let's go get him.
And we got him.
We brought him in.
And I started asking him about crack.
He was like, well, nobody knows what was in that pipe.
I'm like, well, you know.
rich vos
You know.
joe rogan
You fucking know.
What were you smoking that wasn't crack?
That's almost crazier.
rich vos
You know, oh, really?
You smoked tobacco out of a glass pipe?
joe rogan
One of my favorites is when he was running for re-election, which he eventually won after he got out of jail.
They ask these people, do you have a problem with the fact that the mayor used to smoke crack?
They interviewed this guy in the street.
He goes, oh, everybody has to smoke a little crack every now and then.
I was like, oh, this conversation's over.
This conversation's over.
rich vos
I remember the times, and I was in there one time, Pete Rose, Bobby Kelly, Ricky Gervais, right?
And fucking Pete Rose called me.
He goes, you look like some rat-faced soccer player.
Whatever he said, it was very funny.
Whatever Pete Rose said was very fucking funny.
So I walk over to Bobby.
Then I walk past Bobby.
And I walk past Pete Rose.
And I sit down.
And Pete Rose says, why are you out of breath?
I go, because I had to walk around you two.
You fat fucks.
Right? But you could say anything you wanted on that show, and it didn't...
joe rogan
Yeah, because I never went on it until it went to XM.
I was never on it when they were on Terrestrial Radio, when they got kicked off Terrestrial Radio, and then they got on XM.
And when they were on XM, it was wild.
It was like the first time.
It was like Howard, when Howard got on XM, or Sirius, I guess, at first.
Before they merged and then the ONA show was on XM like this is fucking crazy.
This is crazy.
This is basically green room talk.
Green room talk for the whole world.
rich vos
Well, okay, so I brought Patrice into ONA.
joe rogan
Did you really?
rich vos
Yeah, I brought him in.
Wow. He fucking smashed me the day I walked him in.
Because we went through the back.
We went through this way.
Now he goes, what do you think?
This is good, fellas.
You walked me through the back.
You couldn't take me through the front door.
So he became a fixture on it.
So one day we're in fucking O&A.
And I'm driving this little Porsche Boxster.
He's driving this big Escalade.
Because he's a fucking buffet molester.
And he's in this.
So he's saying, he's trashing one of my Rolexes going, you're a fucking selfish douchebag driving a Porsche.
To me.
So you can't have people.
And I'm not thinking, well, maybe if you didn't eat fucking pound cake or whatever, you wouldn't eat a big S. But he's beat me down bad.
I mean, fucking killing me.
I'm speechless.
Right? Speechless.
He's fucking just pounding me.
And I walk out of there.
So the next day or two days later, I go online.
And he's trashing my car.
I look at the price of my car, new, and the price of his car.
And I send it to him.
I go, look, my shitty car costs more than your car, new.
And he calls me and goes, you're still thinking about this?
He goes, really?
joe rogan
You're thinking about it right now.
Still, to this day, you're arguing with him.
unidentified
No, I'm not.
rich vos
I could have.
joe rogan
I should have.
rich vos
I would drive him home.
One night I was driving him back to Jersey City.
And I go to the bathroom.
And we're walking up to his house.
And he says, oh, man, I don't have a manager.
An agent.
Nothing's going on.
I go, I can't get work.
I don't have an agent either.
Nothing. And we just both started cracking up and walking.
It was the funniest thing.
We were reading for the head of a sitcom for ABC, me and Patrice.
We were going to be the leads of this sitcom.
So we go into the head of casting at Marcy Phillips.
He doesn't want to be there, and I can't act.
So, basically, I'm not a good, at the time.
So, he won't take his face out of the fucking copy.
And I'm trying to read with him the scene, and he won't look at me.
And Marcy Phillips is yelling at me, going, what are you doing?
I go, this fucking guy won't connect with me.
How can I act with somebody that won't look at me?
unidentified
And she goes, can you two please leave?
rich vos
We laughed.
All the way down the hallway.
We laughed.
We just got kicked out of an audition as the leads of sitcom, and we just cracked up all the way.
Because it just, to us, was the funniest.
Being funny in the moment.
joe rogan
The idea of you getting a sitcom was so unlikely.
It was always all so unlikely that when it failed, like if you went on an audition and it fucked up, you're like, eh.
It wasn't going to happen anyway.
You never thought this is going to be it.
rich vos
Never once.
No. Never.
Never. I walked out of an audition once.
I just got back from Aspen.
I had a lot of heat in Aspen, but this is when my anxiety...
I've had anxiety my whole life.
21... I was hospitalized for anxiety and they didn't know what it was.
They thought you were just nuts and gave you Thorzine and Haldol and you shuffled around like a crazy man.
joe rogan
So explain to me what it feels like.
What is this anxiety?
rich vos
When I had it bad, well I felt so disconnected that even when I talked it felt like an echo almost.
Like I was outside of myself.
Like, if I look in the mirror, I'm going, who am I looking at?
It was just so disconnected.
joe rogan
And you were 21?
rich vos
Yeah, 21. Smoking pot and stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, well, that's it.
rich vos
Well, some of it was probably, where am I going in life?
What am I doing?
joe rogan
And you're getting high.
rich vos
And I'm getting high.
unidentified
Which is like, ooh!
joe rogan
If you're freaking out and you get high, ooh!
Do you have to pee right now?
rich vos
No, why do you?
joe rogan
Because you said you have to go to the bathroom.
You were talking about your story then.
Okay. Because I was like preparing to like cut it off and let you go to the bathroom.
rich vos
No, no, no.
This is the best day of my life.
Except for the fucking map.
joe rogan
The map turned out great.
rich vos
It turned out a little conversation.
I had to talk.
It's Monday.
Thursday. The Thursday ones are so much better.
I'm Monday.
So my anxiety.
Wait, what did it feel like?
joe rogan
When you say it overwhelmed you to the point you had to go to the hospital, was your heart beating?
rich vos
I didn't know what was going on.
It turned into panic or whatever.
I was so fucked up.
I was selling meat and seafood out of a car, out of a truck, some businesses back then.
I went into this therapist.
Help me.
I'll give you some free steaks and seafood.
And I was just out of my fucking mind.
And I get anxiety talking about it.
It really gives you a little anxiety.
So my friends go, let's take him to Florida.
He needs a vacation.
We drove to Florida.
I was there for a day.
I said, I got to get the fuck out of here.
Take me home.
And we drove there and drove back.
Then I checked into the hospital.
The fifth floor, basically, for fucking cuckoos.
Because they really didn't know what anxiety was back then.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
Because that's not that long ago in human history.
rich vos
Well, I mean, it was 40-something years ago.
joe rogan
But isn't it nuts?
Just like in the last 40 years, how much they've learned.
rich vos
Well, yeah, but also, too, it's easier to say that person's nuts, give him Thorazine, Hal, whatever antipsychotic drugs there are.
And I swear to God, you know, my day was...
And then I would shuffle.
I would shuffle around the floor with this girl.
I mean, this one girl.
We shuffled.
My friends came up to see me, and I'm like, I can't see you today.
We're going for a walk.
You know, I was like one fluid acoustic.
I was fucking out of my mind.
joe rogan
So... That could have been you for the rest of your life.
rich vos
Oh, Jesus.
So, I know.
Well... Because I did do acid in my day, and people sometimes do that shit and never come back.
Never come back.
And I saw that on Dragnet.
joe rogan
It's in real life.
rich vos
Yeah, it is real life.
joe rogan
Stern's talked about that.
He did a big dose of acid once, and he was fucked up for a long time.
rich vos
It'll fuck you up.
joe rogan
There's a guy from Pink Floyd that disappeared.
rich vos
I hope it's fucking Roger Waters.
joe rogan
No. How dare you?
rich vos
How dare I?
joe rogan
How dare you?
What's his name again?
Shine on You Crazy Diamond?
rich vos
Oh, you mean he did ass injuries?
joe rogan
Yeah. It's not just one person.
There's been a lot of people that had an acid trip and just never came back.
rich vos
Yeah, my brother did it when we were doing it.
He was real young, and he was having a bad trip, and I had to babysit him the whole day.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fucking scary.
Yeah, that's it.
David Gilmour.
Written by David Gilmour.
But it's not, it's about, who was it about?
Sid Barrett, that's right.
Sid Barrett.
Did acid.
Went crazy.
See? Right there.
Departed from the ban in 1968 after dealing with the mental health problems and substance abuse.
The story is he never came back.
rich vos
It's crazy.
That drug is so uncontrollable.
joe rogan
Well, also, what's the dose?
An effective dose is a droplet on your tongue.
Which is crazy.
rich vos
Well, we were doing blotter or windowpane, four-way windowpane.
joe rogan
Who's making that?
They're not making it in the same labs where they're making Tylenol.
They're making it in some fucking Grateful Deadhead's basement.
rich vos
Oh, too much goes into that drop.
So, I got out of the hospital and for years, I don't know however long it took, it passed.
Life started getting better, whatever.
Then, and I would get anxiety.
It would come and go.
But back then, I didn't know what it was.
It turned into panic.
So then when I was 40, I would watch my kids.
After I got divorced, I would have my kids every day.
I would work nights, and I'd watch my, I guess, four- and six-year-old.
My wife would either drop them off, or I would pick them up.
Then drop them off.
I would have them in the days.
My day was my kids.
Whatever. Go to the park.
Do this.
Do that.
Just watch my kids.
So then they went off to school full time.
First grade.
So now I'm at 40 years old living in some fucking third floor apartment.
Divorced from my first wife.
Bouncing off of fucking walls again.
I mean, fucking 40 years old.
unidentified
No purpose.
rich vos
No, just, I'm going, I gotta quit comedy.
I gotta go into the psych ward.
I'm fucked up.
This is fucked up.
So I found this therapist who was also, and I was already sober.
I found this therapist that was in recovery, and he basically brought me back, you know, some medication.
Through his partner who was a psychiatrist.
He was a therapist.
Great. I could talk.
I could say anything to him.
Whatever, you know.
And then it just got better.
And then I realized and worked knowing whatever anxiety I feel, it'll pass.
Nothing lasts forever.
It'll pass.
Like, I had a little anxiety.
For the last week, thinking about this, I go, what, you know?
Really? A little bit, because, and we're friends, and I've done podcasts, and Bonnie goes, shut up and be funny.
Be whatever.
You know, a million things went through my fucking head.
Because, I mean, shit, you've had fucking Trump on, Elon Musk, you know what I mean?
And that's my low self-esteem, because, of course, I should be doing everything in my mind.
Do you see what I'm saying?
Does that make sense?
But, Even when I did Tough Crowd, I was on 30 times.
Every episode, I had anxiety until it started.
Every special or everything I've ever done, anxiety for the first second, I walk out, boom, gone.
All right?
joe rogan
Well, that's because you care.
I mean, what you're calling anxiety is just nerves.
Yeah. If you're doing something that's difficult or something that's important to you, you're going to have nerves.
It's normal.
It's healthy.
That shows you're challenging yourself, which is one of the most important things you can do in life to stay vibrant.
You have to challenge yourself.
rich vos
When I did the Trump, when we roasted Trump, this was a fryer's roast, right?
It's when they broke away from Commie Central, right?
They broke away.
So, it's at Hilton in New York, 2,000 people.
Anybody that meant anything in New York, from club owners, agents, managers, celebrities, they were all there.
So the first act goes up, this guy, Stewie Stone, old-time Catskill comic.
He kills like no one I've ever seen kill on a roast.
Fuck you, Trump.
Fuck your casinos.
Fuck you.
Just fucking slaughtered.
Right? And I'm sitting on the dais.
I'm sitting next to Isaac Hayes.
Opie and Anthony are there.
My father, his wife, Bonnie, before I married her.
And he, I go, I'm going to end my career.
I go, I'm going to end my career.
Okay. Then Susie Essman goes up.
Slaughters. Slaughters.
I guess.
Amorose wrote her some funny jokes, and she's great at roasts.
And I was ready to sneak off the fucking, just leave.
I go, it might be better if I leave than go up.
Well, then Belzer went up.
joe rogan
Took a little wind out of the room.
rich vos
Took a little, you know.
So, Regis Philman was the host.
It was...
Three weeks after Rodney Dangerfield died.
Three weeks.
They introduced me.
I go, big hand for Regis.
Originally, they asked Rodney to host, but he said he'd rather be dead.
unidentified
Three weeks left, right?
Zero. Almost zero, right?
rich vos
Really? Right.
I go, don't fuck with me.
I'll bring Belzer back.
And then Al Sharpton was sitting on the dais.
I can't believe I said this, but back then it was okay.
He wasn't roasting, but he was on the dais.
And that's when he was running for president.
And I said, the only way you'll get on the White House property is with a lantern in your hand.
I said to him, so fuck him, I didn't care.
And then I got him back.
Three of the jokes that I said.
We're the ones that were printed in the newspapers.
You know, the one I did, I go Trump.
The reason Trump puts his names on his buildings is so the banks know which ones to take back.
And that was 20 years ago.
But it was the most terrifying moment.
Next to doing Dev Jam as the first white guy was one of the most terrifying moments in my...
I mean, I'm going to end my career.
But Dev Jam...
You know, Def Jam was on for five years.
The number one show on HBO.
I go, okay, we're going to use a white guy.
It's me.
Right? So now I got white comics.
You better be funny.
I have black...
joe rogan
White comics are saying that to you?
rich vos
You got to represent us?
Yeah. Really?
joe rogan
Which ones?
rich vos
I want to know who they are.
This was 20 years ago.
The white comics that were doing black rooms back then.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
rich vos
You know what I mean?
Then there was black comics.
Man, I'm doing it and they're not.
You know what I mean?
So they're taping in New York five nights.
This is funny.
Five nights.
joe rogan
Was that when they were filming in Harlem?
rich vos
It was...
I don't know.
It was in New York five nights at some theater.
And it was the year...
I did it the fifth year when they had a different guest host every night.
Like Martin Lawrence wasn't one night, one show Chris Rock, Chappelle, Jamie Foxx, and Steve, what's his name?
Harvey. Harvey was my host, you know.
So, I'm going every night.
I mean, I went one night, and it was just so funny.
Like, Guy Torrey would come out and do the warm-up.
And he would say, listen, this is not the Apollo.
There's no fucking booing here.
This is HBO.
We don't boo, right?
This is a whole other level.
We don't want to hear any booing.
So this comic comes out.
He walks out.
And with a black audience, if you're wearing the wrong sneakers, you're in trouble.
Believe me.
I used to do a lot of these.
You know, he comes out in like Reeboks.
He's wearing an all-gold suit.
And his first joke in New York is, I just want to say I'm not from New York.
I'm from Canada, right?
joe rogan
Oh, no.
rich vos
He's bombing so bad.
And when a black audience can't boo you, all you heard in the room was, mm, mm, mm, mm.
Child, mm.
It was brutal.
So, I'm like...
Now, they're taped five nights, two shows a night.
I'm on the last night, second show, and I go second to last.
Now, all the comics that were still in town, that were the celebrity hosts, were at the taping.
I'm going, this is one of the scariest moments of my life.
I mean...
You know, no white guy.
Steve Harvey brings me out.
He goes, well, our next act is something we haven't seen or special, whatever.
And Russell made me wear his clothing.
I got fat farm on and these baggy pants, you know.
And I look back on it because it was 25 years.
It would be different.
I pandered a lot.
You know what I mean?
I did grow up in that neighborhood, but I'm out like this.
And it worked out, luckily.
But I look back and go, I would never do that now from 25 years ago.
The pandering and just talking like I'm fucking from the hood and shit.
And I had a good set.
It worked out.
But it was the second scariest moment in my career.
joe rogan
But listen to what you just said.
Both scariest moments of your career worked out great.
rich vos
Yes. They always, yeah.
joe rogan
So, wouldn't that eventually build some confidence?
rich vos
Oh, I have confidence.
joe rogan
Okay. It doesn't sound like it.
rich vos
Oh, no.
I'm just telling you scary moments.
Listen, you always got to question yourself in this business because you want to get better.
You want to...
And you just, I don't know.
I question myself.
I go, I have, not again, not an ego.
I have a reputation to live up to of the stuff I've done in this business.
So I come out and people are going, look, Bobby and Keith, we were at the cellar one night.
I go, I got a spot at the underground.
They go, we're going to come over and watch you bomb.
joe rogan
That sounds like Keith.
rich vos
Keith and Bobby, right?
So, so, Nikki Glaser's on.
Killing. Killing.
Not the cleanest, but funny.
I don't give a fuck what somebody does.
She's funny, and she was killing.
So, I went on.
And my first two jokes, I had, they killed.
And I go, see, Bobby, see, Keith, I can follow anybody, right?
Right. Well, then, I didn't know this.
They went into the back corners of the room, and after every joke, they would go, oh, oh.
And they had the whole audience turn on me going, what's going on?
I would say a joke that might have been a little edgy, and they would go, oh, real loud.
And so the whole audience is going, what's this guy doing up there?
They're groaning him.
One table goes, what's going on here?
And I'm fucking bombing now because these two fucking jamokes are in the back of the room going, oh my god.
It's so fucking funny, Bobby and Keith.
joe rogan
Well, that was the culture.
The culture of comic culture was like constant busting balls.
Constant busting balls.
rich vos
Somebody would go on stage and we would all go downstairs and sit in like the front row and watch.
joe rogan
There's nothing worse you could do for a comic than your friends sit in the front row and stare at you.
You're like, what are you doing, man?
rich vos
When Kevin Hart was leaving New York to go to fucking L.A., he threw himself a little go-away fucking show at Boston Comedy Club.
You remember Boston Comedy Club?
Sure. So he's on stage pontificating, doing whatever.
And I don't know why, but me, Keith, and Patrice were in the back of the room.
And there was like 10 phone books back there.
And he's up, and we started throwing phone books at him.
joe rogan
Phone books?
rich vos
Yeah, they were just in the club from, I guess they were delivered there, all these phone, and we're throwing phone books at Kevin Hart.
And he says, on interview, he goes, I knew I was accepted when they were throwing phone books at me.
I knew I was part of the crew, you know.
But we were just heaving phone books out of, like, fucking three assholes in the back of the room, I mean.
And we would just...
It was just fun.
It was probably the most fun I've had in comedy when we would just stand out.
Me, Patrice, Keith, and Norton.
Till three and four in the morning in front of Boston just trashing each other.
joe rogan
Just talking shit.
rich vos
Yeah. Just, you can't replicate that.
It can't happen again.
It was just so funny.
Keith is, he's fun if you see him around, you know, or Norton or Bobby, but it was so much fun.
joe rogan
I heard Keith is killing it now, even with his strokes.
rich vos
His special, we were at the tape and the fact that he didn't win an Emmy, it was so fucking good, his special.
He painted a picture when he was taught.
You could see everything he was saying.
Him in the hospital, him with a stroke.
It was so good.
I walked out of there going, this is the best thing I've ever seen.
It was so good.
He was so good.
I don't know why he didn't...
I mean, it's...
joe rogan
Who gives a fuck about the Emmys?
rich vos
Fuck off.
Everybody knows how good it was.
joe rogan
All those fucking awards...
Award shows for art, to me, are some of the most ridiculous things.
rich vos
Really? How many fucking albums...
Oh, I don't even want to say her name, but...
They don't know.
They don't know funny.
It doesn't matter.
You're right.
It doesn't.
joe rogan
It's just an industry way that they can celebrate each other, and then they put on a show, and the show generates money, and they make a bunch of money from the show, and then it becomes a thing they hold over your head.
Maybe you can win a Grammy.
Maybe you can win an Emmy.
Maybe you can win this.
You've got to be a part of the club.
Like, look what happened to Chris.
He wanted to be a part of that group, doing the Oscars, and he gets smacked by Will Smith.
They don't arrest him, and then 10 minutes later, or whatever it was, Will Smith's on stage receiving the Academy Award, and they give him a standing ovation.
It's fucking insanity.
It's Hollywood.
That shows you what these people are.
To want their love and their respect is pointless.
rich vos
It's so true.
joe rogan
They don't even know what they like.
They like whatever everybody tells them to like.
They don't understand what their support...
It's just a bunch of people wanting to be a part of the group that's the in-group.
Like, what do we have to do?
What do I have to say?
What do I have to agree with?
That's all it is.
rich vos
Years ago...
And it's true.
If that was Chappelle, he wouldn't have smacked Chappelle.
Because Chappelle's a little cut, a little bigger.
joe rogan
Well, I don't know.
The whole thing was crazy.
rich vos
That poor guy.
joe rogan
One move.
He does one move.
Now everybody remembers nothing but that forever.
unidentified
But what?
joe rogan
Fuck I Am Legend.
Fuck Ali.
All those different things he did that were awesome.
Nobody cares anymore.
He's like, that's the guy that smacked Chris.
Every day he's got to wake up in the morning and go, fuck.
That one thing.
Fuck. If he hadn't done that, if he just ate it, and by the way, not even bad jokes.
Nothing. G.I. Jane, like that's the most fucking, that was a powerful movie.
It was a great movie.
Yeah. About a strong woman.
Like it's not even really an insult.
It was just silly to smack a guy like that and then that's your thing forever.
People are going to remember that?
Yeah. Crazy.
Yeah. Crazy blunders, you know?
And that probably comes from not having anxiety, by the way.
That comes from having too much confidence.
rich vos
Confidence. Too much.
joe rogan
Too much.
Too much of a belief in yourself.
Too much of a belief.
Yes. In your own importance.
That you can interrupt this entire enormous award show.
The biggest award show in the industry.
That you're set up to receive a fucking Academy Award in about an hour.
Or whatever it was.
You're going to go up there and smack a guy on TV?
Why would you do that?
Because he doesn't have that anxiety.
So your anxiety shields you from doing something like that.
Yeah, the fear and the insecurity sometimes is good.
Sometimes it's good for you.
The lack of insecurity can be the worst thing.
rich vos
If you're too cocky, it's...
Yeah, they say be humble.
Be humble, you know.
And I thought Chris handled it as well.
Let's see, what can he do?
joe rogan
What can he do other than run off the stage?
Yeah. Which he probably should have just walked off after he got smacked.
He tried to keep going.
rich vos
Yeah, he's...
I worked with him on both Oscars he hosted.
And he is the nicest guy on the planet.
I guess if you're...
I don't know.
Just from working with him, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a very nice guy.
rich vos
He's a nice guy.
joe rogan
Also, he's harmless.
Like, you can't smack a harmless person.
That's crazy.
rich vos
Yes, I'll tell you what.
If that was Tony, there would have been a fight.
If that was Tony Rock, there would have been a fight.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Well, Tony went off on stage, like, right afterwards about it.
Yeah. Tony's a different dude.
But Chris, like, is, like, almost if it was anybody but Chris, you know?
I mean, you can't do that to anybody else.
It's crazy.
If you did it to Kevin Hart, Kevin Hart would crack him.
The whole thing is crazy.
It was crazy.
It didn't make any sense.
It's like the guy's in some sort of a very bizarre relationship with his wife.
And, you know, whatever internal conflicts they have just manifested itself in a terrible decision that he made.
rich vos
If he would have said that about my wife, I would have smacked her and said, laugh.
joe rogan
It's funny.
Come on.
But, you know, not being able to take a joke is one of the worst qualities that people can have.
Do you take yourself so seriously when someone says something funny, you can't laugh as well?
That's crazy.
You're missing out on laughs.
You're missing out on your own joy.
Like, you should have joy about someone making fun of you, and you're great at that.
You're great at that.
It's one of the best things about you on ONA, is that when they would crack on you, you would laugh.
It's so...
rich vos
They were good jokes.
joe rogan
They were funny.
They were on time.
rich vos
And if I was, at times, lucky enough to come back with something, then I would.
If not, then I sucked.
The last time I did Kill Tony a couple weeks ago, and I told a joke, and Tony goes, that's the oldest joke in history.
And I go, yeah, I wrote it.
Okay, so shut the fuck up.
But it was a great episode because...
He fucked with me and I took it.
joe rogan
Well, Kill Tony's one of the only places left where that kind of fucking with people is like openly encouraged.
That kind of fucking with people is like, I mean, and Tony's the best roaster on the fucking planet.
rich vos
He's quick.
He's like Norton.
joe rogan
He's so quick, you think he, just like Norton.
He's so quick, you think he wrote it in advance.
rich vos
Yeah, he's quick.
joe rogan
And it's off the cuff.
He does it all the time.
He does it in the green room.
He does it everywhere he goes.
rich vos
Well, but here's the thing, too.
He's done that show for, what, 10 years or more?
Yes. He's built that muscle in his head where, boom.
joe rogan
Yep, yep.
rich vos
Automatic that something's going to come back.
joe rogan
Well, when you host a show like that, too, you understand the rhythm of the show, the beats of it.
And he's so good at letting other people shine.
He's really good at...
He wants you to do well.
He doesn't feel upstaged if Shane comes on as Trump or when Kyle was doing...
Kyle did RFK Jr., and he also did Elon Musk.
rich vos
Who, Kyle Dunnegan?
Yes. Yeah, he's so good.
joe rogan
Fucking brilliant.
rich vos
That guy is...
joe rogan
Fucking brilliant.
rich vos
He's so good.
joe rogan
He's so funny.
He is so fucking funny.
Yeah. And then you had Adam Ray, who did Dr. Phil, which was fucking amazing, and Biden.
It's crazy.
The show's so good.
rich vos
I did Kill Tony twice with Adam Ray, and he's fun to be with.
One, they love him.
Yeah. They love him.
But... He laughs and gives you your due, too.
I've done radio with Gervais.
Gervais is a big laugher.
If you say something funny, he'll laugh and crack up.
You know what I mean?
And you've got to have that.
If it's funny, they don't get jealous or get mad and go, I'm going to outdo that.
They laugh.
joe rogan
Well, the people that do suck.
No one who does that is any good.
rich vos
What's that?
joe rogan
No one who does that is any good.
No. No one who's like, oh, I gotta do better than him.
rich vos
Yeah, it's stupid.
joe rogan
You're missing out on the whole thing.
That's not what we're doing.
rich vos
It's a show.
It's a show.
It's whatever.
joe rogan
Hey, I gotta piss.
Let's come back.
We'll come right back.
rich vos
So, I heard...
joe rogan
You heard...
rich vos
The stem cell...
I can't do stuff for a couple weeks.
joe rogan
You can do things.
Golf? Yeah.
For sure.
rich vos
With a stem cell?
joe rogan
Yes, of course.
rich vos
If it gets shot into me Wednesday, what's tomorrow?
Tuesday. I could play golf Thursday.
Yes. What about the BPC?
Yes. Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You just can't lift heavy weights for a while.
rich vos
Oh, I'm not going to lift heavy weights.
joe rogan
That's all it is.
Just don't tear it apart while it's building back up.
That's the whole idea.
Don't aggravate it.
Does that hurt when you do that?
No. Then don't worry about it.
rich vos
Not really.
joe rogan
You'll be fine.
rich vos
A little.
joe rogan
No. Well, you should be doing rehabilitation.
You should have already.
I'm looking at your shoulders right now.
They fall apart on their own.
You've got to exercise.
If you're having injuries with your shoulders and the muscles around them and people are telling you to strengthen them, you should listen to those people.
They're right.
rich vos
Well, no.
Listen, I went to physical therapy for my back and it's working.
joe rogan
So why wouldn't you do it for your shoulder?
rich vos
Because I was waiting to do this shit first.
That would help.
joe rogan
All of it would help.
The more muscles you have around your shoulder, the better it is.
rich vos
It was only two or three weeks ago we said go to physical therapy.
I go, well, he wanted to cut my shoulder.
I said, I'm not cutting it.
I'm going to try the BPC and the stem cells.
joe rogan
You can definitely heal soft tissue injuries without surgery.
The real issue is when tendons are separated and they need to be put back in place and reconnected.
That's the real issue.
rich vos
Well, a lot of people tour.
Rotator cups.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
rich vos
Tear rotator cups.
joe rogan
Yeah, I had a torn rotator cup.
rich vos
I think I did it.
I was doing upright rows with 50-pound kettlebells, and I think that was too heavy or too much.
joe rogan
So you got a trainer, Rich.
Huh? Get a trainer.
rich vos
I'm doing all right.
I mean, I know how to work out.
joe rogan
Obviously, you need some help.
Nothing wrong with a little bit of help.
Look, do you want to get better or not?
rich vos
Yes. Okay, get a professional.
You're saying get a trainer for my shoulder or for my hold?
joe rogan
For your shoulder for everything, for all of it.
So someone show you how to do it right so you're not hurting yourself.
rich vos
Well, I think I'm doing triceps and biceps right.
I know I am.
I'm doing lats right.
joe rogan
Show me the guns.
rich vos
Well, they're not.
joe rogan
Then how do you think you're doing them right?
rich vos
They're not bad.
joe rogan
That's ridiculous.
rich vos
What, small?
joe rogan
It's tiny.
rich vos
Oh, listen.
joe rogan
It's there.
I mean, I can see it.
rich vos
It's hard.
joe rogan
Is it?
rich vos
My chest is nice.
You want me to do my chest?
Do you want to see my chest?
joe rogan
No, I'm good.
rich vos
I'll take my chest out.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
There's no reason to do that.
rich vos
My lats and traps are good.
Okay. Look, for almost 68, I think I look better than most people I went to school with.
joe rogan
That's good.
rich vos
I think...
Look, I work out all the time, but I maintain.
Okay. I maintain it.
joe rogan
I feel like a therapist.
I feel like I'm helping you through your life.
rich vos
You are helping me.
joe rogan
From the moment you got in here.
rich vos
You are helping.
joe rogan
I feel like I'm helping to guide you.
No, get a fucking professional that knows how to work out and build yourself back up to the point where you're not having these kind of injuries.
Yeah, and rehabilitate it correctly.
When they tell you to do physical therapy on your shoulder, fucking do it.
rich vos
I'm gonna do it!
unidentified
If you waited three weeks, you're 68. You only have a few years left.
Fix it.
rich vos
So then what the fuck?
I only have a few years, so...
joe rogan
Well, do it.
You want a few years left in fucking working order.
rich vos
Fucking listen, Bonnie.
joe rogan
I mean...
You should listen to Bonnie.
rich vos
You're right.
I'm gonna fucking...
Do you think...
I'm never going to get my arms bigger than that.
joe rogan
That's ridiculous.
Of course you could.
rich vos
At 68, you get your arms bigger.
joe rogan
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah. The reason why your arms exist at all is because your tissue is regenerating.
Your tissue is...
You're healing and you're getting better.
Yeah. You 100% can get stronger.
100%. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
You would get stronger.
rich vos
I have nice lats and nice chest.
joe rogan
You could be 87 and still get stronger.
As long as you're alive, you can get stronger.
Because if your heart beats, if your hormones work, if you can move around, that means your body can repair itself.
rich vos
Well, I won't do...
What is it that gets you hard?
Viagra? No, no.
Cialis? No, not the drug that makes you...
Testosterone? Yeah, testosterone.
What's it called?
joe rogan
Testosterone. You won't do that?
rich vos
Well, because it makes it, it leads to prostate cancer.
joe rogan
No, it doesn't.
rich vos
That's what my doctor told me.
joe rogan
Your doctor's wrong.
rich vos
He died.
joe rogan
It's incorrectly.
Your doctor's an idiot.
rich vos
He died two years ago.
joe rogan
What hope do I have?
He doesn't know the real studies.
There's a guy named Brigham Bueller who runs ways to well who could explain the flaws in that study that showed that it gave people prostate cancer.
Look, people get prostate cancer.
Testosterone's not giving you prostate cancer.
It's like across the board, the same percentage of people that take testosterone or don't take testosterone get prostate cancer.
There's probably a ton of variables.
It has to do with diet.
A lot of cancer has to do with diet.
Fuel of cancer is sugar.
Do you eat a lot of sugar?
rich vos
I stopped for a year.
I'm going to get back on.
I eat pretty fucking good.
For the last month and a half, I haven't.
For a year.
joe rogan
Yeah. There's environmental factors.
There's genetic factors.
There's a lot of different things.
But, you know, if you want to take care of yourself, testosterone will actually make your body heal better.
You'll feel better.
You'll have more energy.
Your immune system will function better.
Everything will work better.
You should have your hormones balanced.
We live in a time where you can get a full blood panel and find out where your nutrient levels are.
And if you do it with a good doctor, what they'll do is they'll adjust your diet and your nutrients first and then see in a couple months what your levels are then and then find out how much are you sleeping.
Are you sleeping right?
Well, there's a problem there because then your body's not recovering.
So you've got to figure out a way to adjust something in your life to make you sleep better.
And then after that, once they get everything all worked into its optimum range, you're doing all the right things, they go, what are your levels now?
Okay, well, add a little.
Add a little bit of testosterone.
Peptides that'll increase your body's ability to promote growth hormone.
There's stuff like samoralin that makes your body produce more growth hormone so your body repairs itself better like when you're younger.
There's all rigorous science behind all this stuff.
I'll get Brigham to explain it to you.
He'll do a much better job than me.
rich vos
Who's that you got tomorrow?
joe rogan
He's the guy who owns WasteWell.
He's been on the podcast.
He's testified in front of Congress.
rich vos
I'll bring the disc.
joe rogan
Bring the maps too.
He'll love the maps.
rich vos
Let me tell you something about these maps.
joe rogan
These maps?
rich vos
I printed this shit out.
I see.
joe rogan
Looks like your printer needs ink.
Pretty dull.
rich vos
Listen to me.
Listen to me.
Fix your eyes.
joe rogan
My eyes work pretty good.
rich vos
You want to see some other statistics I got?
joe rogan
Oh. What else you got?
rich vos
No, I don't want to get into this.
joe rogan
Please don't.
Did you see those girls land today?
The Blue Origin?
They shot that metal dick up into space?
Yeah. People were mad they wouldn't let the ladies drive.
unidentified
Katy Perry and someone else.
joe rogan
Katy Perry, Lauren Sanchez, Jeff Bezos' wife.
If that thing blew up and if Jeff Bezos' wife blew up with it...
jamie vernon
Twitter thinks that the capsule is too clean.
They don't think it was real.
joe rogan
Obviously. Of course, Twitter doesn't think space is real.
There's a whole community out there.
Hashtag space is fake.
Oh, yeah.
There's really retarded people who think the earth is flat and that there's a firmament.
Look at that.
rich vos
They think birds aren't real.
joe rogan
Did they land?
Is it over?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
They did it?
Yay! How'd they land?
In the ocean?
Not in the desert.
rich vos
How long did they go for?
joe rogan
Parachutes. They land with parachutes?
So the thing lands with a parachute?
I'll show you a video.
Oh, yeah.
Let me see.
I want to see the video.
Oh, that's them in the middle of the desert?
Wow. One second.
jamie vernon
It looks different than that.
joe rogan
That has to be crazy.
Would you do that, Rich?
Would you go to space?
rich vos
Probably not.
joe rogan
You think you'd get anxiety if you went to space?
rich vos
I don't even like Ferris wheels.
joe rogan
Well, those two things are very different.
Is that it?
rich vos
You know what?
joe rogan
Let's see the landing.
rich vos
How long do they go for?
joe rogan
Very soft, soft landing.
Look at this.
Here it is.
Imagine, from space, and the only thing we got to land you is a parachute.
Like one of the oldest technologies.
Wow. You can hear them in there.
rich vos
Blue eyes.
unidentified
Screaming. Wow.
rich vos
How long?
How long were they up there?
joe rogan
I don't know.
unidentified
Not long.
joe rogan
Isn't it funny that they screamed?
Do you think the men would scream like that?
Would you and I scream like that if we landed?
rich vos
Well, I don't know about you, but I know me.
joe rogan
Look at that one.
Look at that go back.
The one below it.
rich vos
I'll tell you what I'll never do is clap when a pilot lands.
joe rogan
You don't do that?
rich vos
That's his fucking job.
joe rogan
It's true.
What if it's a female pilot?
rich vos
I wouldn't have got on the plane.
joe rogan
No. There was a bunch of them in a row where I was like, Jesus Christ.
The Delta one in Canada where it flipped upside down?
rich vos
Yeah, can you imagine?
joe rogan
The lady just started landing planes recently.
Like, yeah, take that one out on the icy runway.
rich vos
Here's $30,000.
No, I'll wait for the lawsuit.
joe rogan
Blue Origin declined to say how much the flight cost or who paid for it.
The trip came two months before Sanchez and Bezos to marry in Venice.
Oh, they're going to marry in Venice in two months.
Oh, they haven't married yet.
Oh, okay.
I thought they were married.
That's hilarious.
They're going to do it in Venice.
Oh, how beautiful and romantic.
Wow. Yeah, you can't tell people how much it costs because then there's gonna be retards like,"That money could have housed so many houseless, so many unhoused could have benefited.
How many poor people?" These fucking retards are like,"If Elon Musk gave a million dollars to everyone on earth, he'd have money left over." There's all these mathematicians out there that are fucking constantly want to comment on other people's money.
How convenient!
rich vos
And those people would fuck up that money, too.
joe rogan
It's all the rich people are the problem.
unidentified
I'm rich, but I'm not as rich as the richest people, so everybody richer than me is a problem.
rich vos
Fucking house, too.
joe rogan
All these people.
All these fucking people.
unidentified
Yes, I own three homes, but I'm a United States senator.
And I'm worth millions and billions of dollars, but everyone richer than me is the problem.
joe rogan
It's the rich, rich, rich people.
Not the regular, regular rich.
rich vos
Oh, that tour.
joe rogan
There's so many.
rich vos
Him in AOC.
joe rogan
Yeah, tax the rich.
Remember she had that fucking dress she wore?
Tax the rich.
How about fuck off?
What are you going to do with the taxes?
That's the problem.
When Doge is uncovering $250 million that was spent on animal transgender studies where you're fucking chopping the dicks of mice and turning them into pussies.
Fuck off.
Fuck off with your tax the rich.
How about you fix the world without taxing the shit out of everybody?
How about...
There's other ways.
rich vos
I can't even tell you what I sent the other day to the IRS.
It's just fucking...
And I'm, you know, just a regular fucking...
You know, so much money.
joe rogan
Well, they were complaining about Elon.
Elon doesn't pay taxes.
Elon paid more taxes last year than any human being that has ever walked the face of this nation.
That's a fact.
So shut the fuck up.
It's like, there's never, it's never enough.
And people that don't have, always look at people that do have, like, well, you could do with that money.
Well, you could do with your money, you fuckhead.
1%. In the world, do you know what it is?
If you're a 1%-er?
In the world.
You know what it is?
$34,000 a year.
No. Yes.
If you make $34,000 American dollars a year, you are in the top 1% of planet Earth.
rich vos
Get the fuck out.
joe rogan
That's a fact.
rich vos
Because you're comparing it to the rest of the planet.
All of the planet.
joe rogan
The whole planet.
Of course.
Most people are dirt poor.
Yes. Most people.
So all this bullshit about, well, he could do that money.
Well, you're saying that from your fucking Manhattan apartment where you're Ubering all over the place and getting fucking takeout.
Shut your mouth.
rich vos
Listen, when I was in Cabo working there, it was amazing.
You drive to the airport, people are living in fucking shacks there, this and that.
joe rogan
It's horrible.
rich vos
It's horrible, but...
Look, this sounds narcissistic.
I came from a major, major drug addict and I turned my life around.
It's all, you gotta find a way to do what you can for yourself.
I don't give a fuck where you are.
I grew up with dudes from heroin addicts to people with five kids at fucking 22 or whatever.
And a lot of people made it out of there and found a way to be successful.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can look at it that way.
But the point is, like, looking at people that are uber successful and telling them what they should do with their money is just the dumb shit.
And that's why they don't want to give out how much money it costs to fly this rocket ship into space.
Of course it's frivolous and gratuitous.
Of course.
It's a publicity stunt.
They had a bunch of hot ladies.
They flew them off into space, and then they landed.
Yay! Now you've been to space.
But basically, you're in space for like 10 minutes.
That's what the flight was.
It probably cost a billion dollars to fly people into space for 10 minutes.
rich vos
Wow, dude.
unidentified
How many fucking clubs you could have bought me?
joe rogan
How many golf clubs?
rich vos
How many golf clubs?
joe rogan
That's your thing, right?
You're just a fucking inveterate golfer, right?
rich vos
I love golf.
joe rogan
Yeah. You and Jamie.
Jamie should show you his setup back there.
Yeah. He's got a driving computer with a big screen.
rich vos
I was hitting this morning into the screen.
joe rogan
You bring the screen with you?
rich vos
I just went at the hotel.
joe rogan
Really? Yeah.
rich vos
Oh, that's amazing.
Yeah, to Thompson.
I went down, worked out twice.
joe rogan
You shouldn't tell people you're staying.
rich vos
No, I'm not staying there.
I walked over there.
Oh. And used our screen.
joe rogan
Really? Yeah.
No shit.
rich vos
Yeah, I brought my clubs.
Yeah, and plus this isn't live.
joe rogan
You and Jamie should fucking...
Have a little driving contest.
rich vos
I think Jamie...
joe rogan
I played with him and Tony before.
rich vos
We played together?
joe rogan
Yeah. A couple years ago, like two years ago.
rich vos
Oh, with me, you, and Tony, right?
unidentified
Yep. Oh.
joe rogan
You won?
Yeah. How good do you play?
How good is he, Jamie?
I don't recall.
unidentified
I mean, I'm not good either, so...
rich vos
I shoot anywhere from 82 to I want to break a club.
joe rogan
I don't know what any of those numbers are.
rich vos
82 is pretty good sometimes.
I've shot in the 70s.
joe rogan
How is it?
Pretty good?
unidentified
Yeah, very good.
joe rogan
Pretty good?
rich vos
I shot...
unidentified
It's for 18 holes, but yeah.
joe rogan
When I was a kid, the guys who golfed all the time were the guys who weren't paying as much attention to their career.
I remember thinking a lot of these guys are kind of stagnant because they're golfing all day.
In Boston, those guys would golf all fucking day long, get hammered.
rich vos
That you grew up with?
joe rogan
No, guys that I started out with.
The golfers.
All wound up spending so much time playing golf.
I thought it was like, wow, that's a big distraction.
You should have some activities, but golf is like...
How many hours?
rich vos
Four and a half.
joe rogan
That's a lot of hours.
rich vos
That's a lot of hours, but also, too, it makes you disconnect from all the bullshit that's going on in life.
You know, you don't have to deal with whatever, you know.
joe rogan
Do you golf with comics, too, so you get to talk some shit?
rich vos
Oh, yeah, some comics.
Yeah, I think I'm going to golf.
If I can after I get these shots Thursday with Aaron Berg, I think I'm going to golf with him.
joe rogan
Yeah, you definitely can.
You can golf on Thursday, for sure.
Golfing is not going to fuck it up.
It'll be sore for a day or two after you get the injections, but you'll be fine.
We've got to clean you up, Rich Voss.
Clean up your life.
rich vos
Thank you.
joe rogan
We're going to do it.
Check in with me.
I'll tell you what to do.
rich vos
Look, I'll show you my chest.
joe rogan
Don't do it.
rich vos
I'll show you a picture.
I don't care.
So you're saying from here on.
Yeah. You're not saying.
joe rogan
What are you going to impress me with your chest?
That's crazy.
rich vos
Well, you say I got small arms.
I got to say, well, I got a nice kick.
joe rogan
Well, you're telling me they're big.
rich vos
I never once said my arms.
joe rogan
You said they're good.
Your triceps and your biceps are good.
That's crazy.
unidentified
Listen, let me explain something to you, okay?
rich vos
Fucking waffle neck.
unidentified
Waffle neck?
joe rogan
Is that bad?
rich vos
No, I call my kids that.
joe rogan
What does waffle neck mean?
rich vos
I call him chicken head.
I don't know.
Okay, you're right.
They're not big, but they're hard, and they're not flabby under here.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're not falling apart.
rich vos
I'm not some flabby.
joe rogan
Yeah, congratulations.
rich vos
What the fuck?
joe rogan
You want credit for being okay?
rich vos
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
Whatever happened to Mr. Pull Yourself Up by Your Bootstraps, Get Your Shit Together?
What about all that talk?
You're barely doing anything.
You're like, you're okay.
unidentified
I work out six days a week, I lift.
joe rogan
Do you?
rich vos
Yes. I have a nice gym in my basement.
joe rogan
Do you think if I worked out with you, I'd be impressed with the effort that you put forward?
rich vos
Not in the least.
That's what I'm saying.
Stop it.
I do 500 crunches.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
I do zero.
I don't do any crunches.
rich vos
What do you do, sit-ups?
joe rogan
Yeah, I do a lot of different stuff.
rich vos
Do you do planks?
joe rogan
No. I think planks are nonsense.
rich vos
So do I. They're uncomfortable.
joe rogan
It's hard to do.
Don't get me wrong.
But I think in terms of an exercise for your core, it's kind of nonsense.
I think you should do things.
First of all, you should almost always do things that have a range of motion.
I like to do things that make my body work as a unit.
So all the ab exercises that I do, I do a lot of different things for abs.
I do reverse squats.
You know what those are?
You strap your ankles to a cable machine.
You lay on your back and you pull towards you.
rich vos
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
I do those.
rich vos
Well, I got one of those machines where I put my knees in it and I pull up to get the bottom.
joe rogan
Okay. Yeah, that's good.
rich vos
Do you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Sure, yeah, yeah.
Those are good.
Anything where you work your whole core.
And then you've got to also do the opposite side.
Back extensions.
rich vos
Yeah, I do that.
I do it on that thing I showed you.
joe rogan
That machine you were showing me.
rich vos
Yeah. I'll do back.
Because, and I got to lose another 10 pounds again.
I gained it back.
But it comes and goes.
And because I have lower disc problems and, you know, I'm getting sciatica.
So whenever I lose weight, I'm in much better shape.
joe rogan
Yeah, I could tell by when we got on that stretching machine, the decks.
Yeah. Your body doesn't go all the way down.
rich vos
It's tight.
joe rogan
Your lower back is very tight.
rich vos
Oh, I'll go in there right now and go all the way down.
I was just doing it.
joe rogan
No, I'm saying there's tension.
Yeah, of course.
You see how my body hinges?
Yeah. My body just hinges.
It just goes down there.
There's no tension.
Yours is like...
You stop like right there.
You probably could go all the way down, but your body doesn't want to.
The point is there's tension in your lower back.
rich vos
Well, I've never used that machine, too.
It was my first time.
joe rogan
Stop with excuses.
Do you stretch?
rich vos
No. On stage, if they need me to do an extra 20. If they go to stretch.
I've done it two hours.
If D.L. Eugly and I'm middling and he's coming four hours late.
Back in the day, I was working the Caroline's and I was opening for DL.
And, you know, I'm doing all my good stuff up front.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
And then they have to stretch.
rich vos
And they go stretch.
I'm going...
What am I going to do now?
joe rogan
He wasn't there yet?
rich vos
No, he wasn't.
joe rogan
Oh, that's the worst feeling in the world.
rich vos
Walking in with his...
joe rogan
You get all your best material, and they're telling you to stretch, like, I don't know, and you're just scouring your brain.
rich vos
You're scouring your brain.
joe rogan
Well, luckily for you, you could work the crowd.
rich vos
Yeah. So, I...
Now, what was the question?
Am I doing...
Do I stretch?
Yeah. Yeah, I do for my back.
I have this extra...
I lie down.
Yeah. And I pull this back like that.
Okay. That's good for my lower back.
Sure. You know what that is?
joe rogan
Do I know what it is?
rich vos
Do you know what I'm talking about?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know what you're doing.
rich vos
That's my lower back.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just crossing your legs and leaning forward.
rich vos
Yeah. And I pull it back.
joe rogan
Right. Okay.
rich vos
And then when I'm doing sit-up, crunches, I'll do it either on that machine.
Or I'll pull my legs this way, too.
So I'm getting my lower.
joe rogan
Watch you move.
I'm like, oh my God.
rich vos
First of all, I know the crew you have come in here, a lot of them.
None of them work out at all.
joe rogan
A lot of them do.
Who doesn't work out at all?
Name one.
rich vos
No, I don't want to.
joe rogan
Name a guy.
Ari. Ari doesn't work out at all.
rich vos
Okay, there's one.
joe rogan
That's true.
rich vos
Mark Norman.
joe rogan
I don't know if Norman works out.
jamie vernon
Mark Norman definitely works out.
rich vos
Oh, he does?
joe rogan
He runs.
jamie vernon
He can do a lot of pull-ups and sit-ups.
rich vos
From audiences.
You know what I like talking to Mark?
He loves comedy.
joe rogan
Oh, he loves it.
rich vos
And he knows the history of it.
But he knows the history of it.
Oh, yeah.
Like, you'll talk to comics now and go, oh, Steve Landisberg was funny.
Who was that?
joe rogan
Look at him.
Come on, man.
Of course he works out.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
rich vos
He's ripped.
joe rogan
He's ripped.
rich vos
I don't like that.
joe rogan
How dare you?
Now you feel bad.
Now I feel bad.
rich vos
It hurts me to see that.
unidentified
Are you kidding me?
joe rogan
You're talking shit and he looks great.
rich vos
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
You're talking shit.
He looks like a male model.
Show me that again, Jamie.
rich vos
He's not holding up a newspaper.
We don't know when that was shot.
joe rogan
Who cares when it was shot?
You never looked like that.
Show me that again.
What are you going to do?
Take your clothes off?
rich vos
No, I'm going to take a picture.
joe rogan
He looks fucking good there.
rich vos
Yeah, he does.
joe rogan
He looks good.
rich vos
So does his wife.
God damn it.
joe rogan
Look at that right there.
He's got boxing gloves on and an iPhone.
He's in shape, man.
You're incorrect.
rich vos
Alright, relax.
joe rogan
You feel bad, right?
rich vos
No, I don't.
joe rogan
Shane works out.
He's here all the time.
rich vos
This is not working out.
joe rogan
We work out.
rich vos
Shane works out?
joe rogan
Yeah, he comes in and uses the gym.
We work out together.
We put your glasses so you can find your abs.
unidentified
Hold on.
Let me find.
rich vos
You're in there somewhere.
unidentified
Hey, baby.
joe rogan
Showing you somewhere.
rich vos
All right.
joe rogan
You are looking for your glasses.
Are you going to find a photo of you looking good?
Forget about that.
That's the past.
Let's concentrate on now.
Put away the cookies.
Put away the sugar.
Listen to your doctor.
He tells you to rehab your shoulder.
Get yourself in shape.
Can't believe we're doing this.
People are listening.
They can't see this.
rich vos
They couldn't see the picture of him either.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I mean this, you being on your phone here looking for a photo of back in the day when you looked reasonable.
rich vos
This was recently.
joe rogan
How long ago?
What happened?
rich vos
What happened?
Oh, fuck.
Oh, Jesus.
unidentified
Look at you.
joe rogan
They look good there.
unidentified
There you go.
joe rogan
Oh, not bad.
Okay. You look pretty good right there.
What happened?
rich vos
It's not that bad now.
joe rogan
How long ago was this?
2018. Oh, that's pretty recent.
That's pretty recent.
Yeah. Pre-pandemic.
A lot of people fell apart during the pandemic.
rich vos
That's what happened.
And then I came back on track for a year.
joe rogan
A whole year.
And then it fell apart again.
rich vos
And then since January, when I was in Canada.
joe rogan
Oh, Canada did you?
rich vos
Canada fucked me up.
joe rogan
They got you with communism.
They got you with communism.
They made you eat poutines.
rich vos
Oh, that shit is good.
joe rogan
Oh, it's so good.
Late night, late night poutine.
rich vos
It's just pure heart attack.
joe rogan
Yeah, they have different delis in Canada.
Like, we used to go to Montreal, they call it smoked meat.
Yeah. It's basically like going to Cantor's, right?
Or going to Katz in New York.
rich vos
I've been to a couple of those smoked meat.
joe rogan
Oh, phenomenal.
rich vos
But, you know, I heard, and I don't know if it's true, and I...
If you eat too much smoked meat, you can get stomach cancer from that, from all that smoked meat.
joe rogan
Who fucking told you that?
rich vos
This guy with stomach cancer.
No? Not true?
joe rogan
Smoked meat is not what it is.
There is some connection between burnt meat, like the carbon in burnt meat and cancer.
I think it's colorectal cancer.
But I do not know how robust those studies are.
I mean, people have been cooking over fire forever.
I just don't, I don't buy it.
There's a lot of bullshit involved in these studies that tell you that this causes cancer, that causes cancer.
Here's what 100% causes cancer: herbicides, pesticides, chemicals, forever chemicals that are in your fucking food.
That paper cup that you're drinking out of when you drink hot liquids out of a paper cup.
We got to throw those fucking paper cups we have.
Have you seen what Paul Saladino did when he dissolved a Starbucks cup and shows you what's really at the base of it?
It's basically a condom.
See if you can find Paul Saladino's video.
rich vos
Wait, you got all those paper cups.
I'll take them all.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
I saw them today.
I poured my coffee in this.
We're going to get rid of all our paper cups.
rich vos
I'll take them.
joe rogan
Paper cups for hot liquids are fucking stupid.
Really? Because the lining of those paper cups is plastic.
So you're basically pouring hot liquid into plastic, which is the worst.
Okay. See, he shows.
So he's dissolving the paper cup, and that's what's inside of it.
So you think you're drinking out of a paper cup, but it's not really paper.
It's plastic.
There's a plastic lining, and that's the only reason why those coffee cups from Starbucks hold paper.
So hot water to plastic.
Give me some volume on this.
unidentified
Chemicals, PFAs, anything in that plastic is leaching into your coffee drink.
So do not think you're getting a paper cup.
You are getting a plastic cup and you are putting hot water into it.
That's a horrible, horrible idea.
Look at that.
Looks like a condom.
What's the solution?
Glass jar, get your coffee in a glass jar or a stainless steel mug.
Simple solution, don't expose hot liquids to plastic like this.
Horrible idea for your hormones, horrible for your body.
Send this to somebody you know who drinks hot coffee out of paper cups like this and needs to get them out of glass or stainless steel.
joe rogan
Yeah, there you go.
rich vos
My wife, she won't drink out.
She knows all this shit.
Good. She's a reader.
joe rogan
You should listen to Bonnie.
rich vos
I try to.
She... Meditate.
She's really good.
She's smart.
joe rogan
Which is weird.
rich vos
Super smart.
joe rogan
The two of you guys together, that it works.
rich vos
It's crazy.
It's like, you know what I need?
Here's the deal.
What month?
What are we at?
April. April.
joe rogan
April. 15th.
14th? 14th?
rich vos
April 14th.
So let's go April 14th, May, June 30th.
I'm back here at the club on my birthday.
joe rogan
Okay. So you're going to look good.
rich vos
I'll look.
joe rogan
I'm going to go to June 30th.
We'll take a picture.
I'll put it on my Instagram.
Take your shirt off.
rich vos
Flex. Not now.
joe rogan
No. June 30th.
I'm giving you time.
I want to give you a goal.
rich vos
June 30th.
Is that enough time?
joe rogan
Sure. Absolutely.
rich vos
Two months?
joe rogan
Yes. In two months you can lose 20 pounds of fat and look great.
Yeah. Because eat healthy.
Just get on a very low-carbohydrate diet.
rich vos
That's what I did.
I'm not doing keto.
I'm not gay, but I went...
joe rogan
Keto's gay?
rich vos
A little.
When I try to cut carbs, let me tell you something.
It was easier for me to quit crack than it was carbs.
Really? Well, I never gave anybody a handjob for a Kaiser roll.
unidentified
So, part of my act, folks, he's killing.
rich vos
June 30th, the week I'm here.
Right. I don't know how much bigger my arms will be.
joe rogan
You don't have to get bigger.
rich vos
I'll just be more cut up.
joe rogan
Get you look good.
rich vos
But I think I look okay.
joe rogan
Well, we're going to get you a blood panel tomorrow, too.
They'll find out where your hormone levels are at.
Find out what the fuck is wrong with you.
rich vos
What do you mean?
joe rogan
All that shit.
rich vos
Blood panel.
joe rogan
They'll draw blood.
They'll draw blood and then send it to a lab.
rich vos
They're not going to tell me I have cancer.
joe rogan
They could if you want to know.
No. You don't want to know.
rich vos
I already had blood tests at my doctor's office.
joe rogan
Did your doctor do a comprehensive cancer scan?
rich vos
Did prostate?
joe rogan
No. Just looked in your asshole.
That's all they did.
rich vos
No, with the blood.
And looked at my sugar levels.
joe rogan
They can do this incredibly comprehensive blood panel.
They dig a lot of blood out, and then they send it to a lab, and they find out whether or not you have any.
I have zero cancer.
I was super happy.
Because when they did it, I was like, ooh, I have the same feeling.
I don't know if I want to know this.
rich vos
It's just waiting for fucking...
joe rogan
Start thinking about it and start mind-fucking yourself laying in bed at night.
Like, what if I have it right now?
What if I find out tomorrow and I have four weeks to live?
rich vos
It's fucking too much anxiety.
When I went back in the day, everybody, like, went for the AIDS test after you got clean.
Oh, I remember that.
joe rogan
I remember my first AIDS test.
rich vos
So I got my AIDS test.
joe rogan
I was so scared.
rich vos
Okay, this is true.
My doctor, whenever I went to my doctor and took any test, he would call me and say, everything's fine.
There were calls, everything's fine.
So I took an AIDS test.
joe rogan
The doctor didn't call you.
rich vos
And I get a call from the doctor.
And he said, can you come in tomorrow?
I'm going, what do you mean come in tomorrow?
My heart dropped because he would have said everything's fine.
I go, what do you mean?
Why do you want me to come in tomorrow?
He goes, your tooth came in.
It was my dentist, but I heard a doctor.
I thought it was my real doctor telling me I have fucking AIDS.
Because everybody took that test in the 80s.
joe rogan
When I first got insurance, I had to get an AIDS test in the 90s.
And I remember the doctor, I said, boy, I'm fucking real nervous about this.
And the doctor said, are you gay?
I said, no.
He goes, do you do drugs?
I go, no.
He goes, don't worry about it.
You don't have it.
I go, really?
He goes, yeah.
I go, what about the fucking news?
Yeah. The news is freaking me out where I'm scared to touch fucking doorknobs.
Like, how come the news is saying that everybody's going to get it?
He says, listen, no one's getting it other than gay people and people who are intervening as drug users.
rich vos
Well, people on my block were dropping.
We went to see Pee Wee in a hospital, and all the nurses were wearing masks.
So we go, I think he has that thing.
Nobody even knew what the fuck to, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah, they thought it was contagious.
By the way, that was Fauci, too.
rich vos
Back then?
joe rogan
Yeah. Who's responsible for all that?
Fauci was responsible for people freaking out about AIDS.
Fauci was on TV back in the 80s telling people that children could possibly catch it from people.
Yes. Wow.
Yeah. Do you know the Dallas Buyers Club?
Where they were limiting the medication that gay people could take?
That was about Fauci.
He was responsible for that.
He was the one who pushed AZT on people back then.
AZT was that chemotherapy medication that was killing people quicker than the cancer was.
They stopped using it on cancer and they repurposed it and started using it on people that had AIDS.
rich vos
And it didn't help you.
joe rogan
And it kills you dead.
They were giving it to people that didn't even have any fucking symptoms.
They had HIV.
They had no symptoms.
They'd given them AZT.
They were dying in months.
It was the only time ever in medical history where they were telling you to take a chemotherapy drug indefinitely.
Every time you take chemotherapy, the idea is that it gets your body close to death but kills off the cancer.
They were telling you to keep taking it.
Just keep taking it.
It's nuts.
What they did is madness.
If you read Robert Kennedy's book, The Real Anthony Fauci, it's all about that.
And the beginning of it is all about the AIDS crisis and all the different things that they did that mirrors exactly what they did during the COVID crisis.
rich vos
So what drugs are they using now?
joe rogan
They started using protease inhibitors and that really helped.
The whole AIDS thing is very complex.
It's very complex because the vast majority of the people that got AIDS were heavy drug users.
Heavy drug users or gay guys who are experienced.
You know, a lot of different sexual partners.
rich vos
But it was because of blood being transferred.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's part of it, but it's also part of it you're destroying your immune system with fucking drugs.
These guys were taking amyl nitrate and crystal meth and partying and not sleeping, just crushing their immune system.
rich vos
Plus sharing needles with the blood going for them.
joe rogan
Yep, that too.
And then they would get them on medication that would definitely kill them.
And then it was a crisis.
And then, you know, everybody was running around scared.
And I was scared too until I talked to my doctor.
He just looked me in the eyes.
But no one could say that back then.
So this is like 90...
unidentified
91 maybe?
joe rogan
Maybe 91?
92? 88. And my doctor was like, don't worry about it.
I was like, what about the news, man?
I remember talking to this guy.
He was a young guy.
I was like, why is the news telling me...
He goes, heterosexuals aren't getting this.
Unless you're an intravenous drug user, don't worry about it.
rich vos
I only checked because I shot dope like...
Maybe three times.
What was it like?
I didn't like it.
I was more of a...
joe rogan
What did Shooting Dope do feel like?
rich vos
Just down.
I did it with Bastille.
joe rogan
He was a major one.
He was funny, though.
Frankie was funny.
I remember seeing him for the first time when I was an open-miker in 88. And he was just a wild dude.
He was like one of the first guys I ever saw with tattoos.
All these tattoos, and they're like, he does heroin.
Everybody would tell you.
Oh, really?
It was heroin.
When someone did heroin back then, it was crazy.
Like, what?
He does heroin?
Now, think about how many people are hooked on opiates.
Back then, it was super rare.
rich vos
Well, the difference between heroin and freebase, you can function on heroin.
There's functioning heroin addicts for years.
Yeah. Do it.
You can't function on Freebase or Coke.
You've got to keep having it.
joe rogan
I had a buddy of mine who was a longshoreman, and he would tell me that this guy he would work with, and not just one guy, but one guy that he was working with, that he was a friend, on his lunch break, get a bag of heroin, shoot it up in his car, sit there for half an hour, and then go back to work.
Yeah. Crazy.
rich vos
You can't do that with Freebase.
It's nonstop.
You've got to keep it.
Oh, I imagine.
joe rogan
Was that your thing, Freebasing?
rich vos
Yeah, Freebase.
joe rogan
How old were you when you first Freebased?
rich vos
Well, I...
When I first got high, I was 15. You know, pot.
I led my way up to the gateway drug.
Yeah, coke.
joe rogan
So snorting coke.
rich vos
I snorted coke probably when I started when I was 18 or 19, right?
joe rogan
And then when you worked to crack?
rich vos
Crack, probably 25 to 28. Do you remember the first time you did it?
I think it was with my cousin.
Yeah, it was like...
I go, this is good.
I mean, I guess.
I'll tell you what.
I got so many of them.
So, my friend, I was on the road.
I came back.
He goes, look, I'm going to buy an eighth of Coke.
Cut it into five halves.
Five half grams.
Okay. And we'll do two half grams and I'll sell the other three.
joe rogan
I know where this is going.
rich vos
Well, we did one or two.
And then he went to sleep.
unidentified
So, this is fucked up.
rich vos
I found where he hid it.
joe rogan
Oh. He didn't hide it as good as you hide your money?
rich vos
No. I went in and I would steal one at a time.
I drove to the convenience store.
I cooked it with ammonia, right?
Ammonia? Yeah, clear ammonia.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, you actually cooked the coke and turned it into crack?
rich vos
Yeah. Why would you do that?
joe rogan
Is it better that way?
rich vos
Oh, that's how you get free-based crack.
You've got to process it.
You could do it with baking soda.
You could do it in a boil it.
joe rogan
Who taught you how to do this?
Are you a chemist?
rich vos
No, it's a crack addict.
joe rogan
Other crack addicts were giving you the recipe?
rich vos
No, I learned it.
There's three ways to do it.
Or four with ether, which you could blow up your house.
I would steal a half a gram from them.
I would go to the convenience store.
I'd cook it, smoke it, and pour out the ammonia.
I said, I can't do it.
joe rogan
How do you do it?
rich vos
I don't want to help.
You put it in...
joe rogan
It's the internet.
ChatGPT will tell you to make...
Ask ChatGPT right now.
rich vos
I'll tell you.
joe rogan
How do you take cocaine and turn it into freebase?
rich vos
You put it in a teaspoon and you light it and it turns into a rock.
Okay. And then you squeeze it.
joe rogan
And then you smoke that rock.
rich vos
You squeeze and try to get the ammonia out as much as you can in the rock.
So I would pull...
I would get the ammonia, steal a half a gram from him, go to the...
Bright early in the morning.
Come back, cook it, pour the ammonia out well.
joe rogan
ChatTB2, the chemistry behind it, how it's made.
For educational purposes only, not intended to encourage illegal activity.
rich vos
Baking soda, I said.
joe rogan
You could do it.
Cocaine hydrochloride powder with baking soda and water.
Sometimes ammonia is used instead of baking soda, but baking soda is more common for crack.
Heat the mixture.
As it's heated, the cocaine bases separate from the hydrochloride and form solid rocks that float to the top.
Cool and dry.
This is like a recipe.
Solid pieces.
The crack rocks are cooled and hardened, then dry.
rich vos
So, I emptied out the first bottle.
Then there was two or three more half grams.
I went and stole another one.
Went back to the convenience store.
Bought more ammonia.
After the fourth trip to the convenience store, I go, hey, listen, I got a cleaning business.
We need a lot of ammonia.
Well, I smoked all his coke.
And all of a sudden, I hear somebody yell.
Fuck! He woke up and saw his coke was gone.
joe rogan
How many hours had passed?
rich vos
Probably four.
joe rogan
How many trips to the convenience store?
rich vos
Four. And I was just drinking straight vodka, right?
Whoa. And I'm walking home.
Now I'm $250 in debt.
And it was towards the end of my career.
joe rogan
As a crack addict?
rich vos
As a drug addict, yeah.
joe rogan
I like how you call it a career.
rich vos
It was a crack career.
Well, I think I told this story years ago, but I'll tell it.
And he doesn't care because he told it in his book.
So me and Frankie are doing a one-nighter.
And back then, I had the car.
You would pick up an act at the Improv and then go do the one-nighter in Jersey.
Right. So we pick up this comic, little white guy, whatever.
We go do our one-nighter, and we're supposed to drop him off at the Improv.
And I go, hold on, I gotta make a stop.
And we go up to Spanish Harlem.
He goes, what are you doing?
I go, my sister lives here.
She's not doing well.
There's people chasing people with knives up and down the street.
And I go up and buy crack, freebase, right?
And the kid's like, get me home.
Take me back to the improv.
What the fuck is going on?
Right. Well, relax.
So now we go down to the Lower East Side and Frankie gets heroin.
And the kid...
Now Frankie's in the back seat tying up, shooting heroin.
joe rogan
While you're driving?
rich vos
Well, I'm driving.
He's in the back shooting.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
unidentified
And the kid is fucking scared to death.
rich vos
He was a little white kid.
joe rogan
He wanted to be Jerry Seinfeld.
rich vos
It was David Spade.
joe rogan
Was it really?
Oh my god.
rich vos
That's hilarious.
He was a little white kid from Arizona.
Do you remember when he first started?
He tells the story in his book and I apologize to him.
He goes, oh don't worry, it's a good story.
Right? But we kept him hostage as I'm smoking crack and Frankie's banging dope in the car.
unidentified
Oh my god.
joe rogan
I heard an Otto and George story once.
He's working at a club in Jersey.
I don't need to name the club.
And he leaves The club with the owner's daughter, and they're headed into New York, and there's another guy driving the car.
He stops off at Washington Square Park, picks up a bag of crack, and starts smoking it in the car.
And the girl freaks out, and he says, the classic line, he goes, what?
I thought the broad wanted a party.
rich vos
I just did a documentary about him.
They interviewed me.
They're doing a documentary on Otto and George.
joe rogan
Well, we did a lot of those shows, those prom shows with Otto and George.
rich vos
Oh, he was...
Genius. Yeah, but I'd drive with him to a gig and he would go, do you know what George thought of today?
What? You fucking psychopath.
You're George.
joe rogan
Well, he would make people pull over so he could go check on George.
George is in the trunk.
He would pull over and check on George.
I think there's something to that.
I think that dummy had a mind of its own.
And he might have been he had some weird personality disorder where he put a personality to that dummy.
But that dummy, when that dummy would say things, you knew it was George.
Yeah. Like, it didn't even feel like it was Otto.
It felt like George had his own thoughts on things.
rich vos
I worked with Van Troel, of course, once.
And I go into his room on the road, and he's...
Putting away the dummy's clothes in another dresser drawer than his.
He's like putting away the clothes of the dummy.
joe rogan
Folding the clothes?
rich vos
Yes, of his dummy.
Here's a bit I kind of want to do.
You know, back in the day, you know, when there was bank robbers, outlaws, they would wear a handkerchief and go rob a bank.
Well, I want to be the outlaw ventriloquist where I go up with a little dummy and put a handkerchief.
This way they can't see my lips move, but I could say I'm the outlaw ventriloquist.
unidentified
And I could do a whole five minutes.
rich vos
And everybody's going, he must be great.
I can't see his lips move.
joe rogan
That's good, but you're supposed to talk too.
Part of the fun of being a ventriloquist, Otto would say, I can't believe you're saying that, George.
Shut the fuck up!
The eyebrows would pop up and you'd get crazy.
It's the banter back and forth.
rich vos
I'll talk behind the mask.
I'm not going to do it.
joe rogan
Terrible idea.
rich vos
So I threw it out.
How come there's no ventriloquist on this planet?
That gets along with their dummies.
joe rogan
Well, there's not even very many ventriloquist acts anymore.
There used to be a bunch of ventriloquist acts.
There was Willie Tyler and Lester, who was in L.A. There was a few.
rich vos
There was Vincent Antoneau and George from Long Island.
joe rogan
You know what I think it was?
It's like when one guy becomes really big, like Jeff Dunham.
He became the man when it came to ventriloquist.
And then he's so popular that nobody touches it anymore.
Sort of like Carrot Top did that to prop acts.
Yeah. Like prop acts used to be...
Remember when we started out?
rich vos
The fucking WID.
Did you ever work with the WID?
unidentified
He's great!
rich vos
Yeah, he pulled it in fucking diaper, I mean, laundry basket shoots with fucking props.
joe rogan
Oh, he had so much shit.
Yeah, he had like a whole trunk full of stuff that he would have to carry to the club.
But they don't have them anymore because Carrot Top became so famous as a prop act that everybody's like,"Oh, that's a Carrot Top thing." They just abandoned it.
Like musical acts.
There's no fucking musical acts anymore.
rich vos
They're on ships.
Gary Delano was a musical act.
joe rogan
But guys who've been around for a long time.
They're legacy acts.
There's no upcoming people right now that are musical comedians.
rich vos
Well, there's no magicians.
Farentino was a magician.
There was a couple of magic acts.
Like when I did one-nighters, there was jugglers, juggling Jack Scherzi.
A couple magic acts.
joe rogan
There's a few magic acts still that work in California because of the Comedy Magic Club.
Oh, okay.
Hermosa Beach.
He used to have it where you'd have a magician mixed in with the comedy.
Last time I worked there.
When I started working there, I was like...
rich vos
Do you ever remember Chips Cooney where he did the fake magic act?
No. It was really funny.
He would just do stupid stuff.
joe rogan
Lenny Schultz was a prop actor.
unidentified
He was a prop actor.
joe rogan
Remember Crazy Lenny?
rich vos
He just died.
Like about a month ago, three weeks ago.
More pigs, Lenny.
There were more pigs, and he was just...
joe rogan
He was so ridiculous.
rich vos
He was nuts.
joe rogan
He was so funny, though.
rich vos
And the nicest guy in the world.
joe rogan
Yeah, I remember he pulled out a Smokey the Bear doll, and he's like, only you can prevent forest fires.
He was like, shut the fuck up!
And he punched the bear.
It was so ridiculous.
And then he'd move on to something else like it never happened.
It's like, it was what?
rich vos
He would kill.
Kill. And it made no sense.
joe rogan
No sense.
unidentified
No sense.
joe rogan
It was just maniacal.
It was just crazy.
With his crazy face and crazy eyes.
But it was really funny.
rich vos
Like Caratop.
He's a good prop act.
If you like prop acts, he's the best prop act.
I mean, Rip Taylor didn't like him, but, you know, Rip Taylor's from how many fucking years ago?
joe rogan
Rip Taylor?
rich vos
Yeah, remember the gay...
joe rogan
Oh, with the mustache?
rich vos
Yeah, and throw this...
Yeah, the glitter and stuff.
joe rogan
How come he didn't like Carrot Top?
rich vos
Because Carrot Top was getting real famous at the time.
And Rip Taylor was...
He's a hater.
joe rogan
He's a hater.
rich vos
Yeah, was...
The prop act.
joe rogan
But it's like most comics today are just comics.
They just do stand-up.
There's very little, like, all the variety stuff is gone.
rich vos
Well, Frankie Pace was a prop act.
He killed.
joe rogan
Yeah, he killed.
rich vos
Killed. You're right.
There was more variety in the one-nighters and the clubs.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Well, in the 80s, comedy was anything.
joe rogan
There was no definition of it back then.
Like, guys had, like, pieces of paper they'd bring on stage and hold up signs.
There was all kinds of weird shit.
Now it's just people talking.
rich vos
Oh, the guy from Boston, I work with him.
He was so angry.
We did a one-nighter.
He said, fuck this at a pool hall.
Bob something.
He had paper signs he would pull up and do a thing on signs or whatever.
He was just from Boston.
joe rogan
Well, there was the guy from the Blue Collar tour, Bill Engvall.
Yeah. He had signs.
rich vos
Did he?
Yeah. None of them said quit?
unidentified
I don't know.
What? I, uh...
rich vos
What do you call it?
What's his name?
Kills on stage.
Josh Adam Meyers.
Yeah. He does...
joe rogan
Kills! Well, he does that goddamn comedy jam where he does music, too.
But that's a little different.
rich vos
But we had him on our show, Would You Bang Him?
Me and Bonnie do the show.
It's fucking...
You know the show we do?
No. What we do is...
Bonnie and I host it.
And we have, like, five comics.
And they do, like, eight or ten minutes apiece.
Then we have three female judges and a gay judge.
And after the set, they discuss whether they would fuck him or not.
joe rogan
Oh, interesting.
rich vos
And the gay judge is always the funniest.
He's always the funniest.
But some of these female judges are just so funny, you know.
So he came out.
We did it a couple...
We do it at a lot of festivals.
And we did it in New York.
And Josh Adam Myers came out.
And he sang the whole time.
Just fucking...
All over the stage, I'm going, he's got to close every show in a comedy club because nobody's following that.
There's no way at the cellar that you're going to go up after that.
And what he does is great.
What he does is...
joe rogan
Yeah, if you were on the road and you had a middle act and the middle act was brought to you by the club, like they assigned a middle act and the middle act was doing music, you were fucked.
You were fucked.
rich vos
Oh, yeah.
Okay, fucking guitar act.
I worked Vegas once following a guy with a guitar, and he's fucking closing with Springsteen and a bandana on his head.
I'm going, what the fuck?
joe rogan
It's a totally different thing.
But it's weird that that's not more popular, because it used to be so effective.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like, why isn't there more of those acts like that out there?
Because it was so effective.
rich vos
Well, some of them...
Got older and went to cruise ships that do guitar.
joe rogan
I know, but why didn't the younger ones?
How come no younger ones emerged?
That's what's weird.
rich vos
It is kind of weird.
No impressionists either.
joe rogan
Very few.
rich vos
That do impressions.
joe rogan
Yeah, very few.
rich vos
And everyone that...
They would turn around, fix their hair, and then do their...
They always turned around.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
Imagine if Jack Nicholson...
rich vos
I'd be scared to turn around and the audience left.
But they turn around.
There was so many...
Jeff DeHart.
He did Rod Sterling perfectly.
joe rogan
It is interesting.
There's not a lot of just impressionists, right?
rich vos
Yeah, Danny Stone, Randy Credico.
joe rogan
Yeah. Frank Caliendo does.
rich vos
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He's like the only one.
rich vos
You don't really see him in clubs.
I don't know if he's still in clubs.
He does a lot.
joe rogan
I think he does his theater, mostly.
rich vos
Yeah, he was on the Virus Tour, on the Opie and Anthony Tour.
joe rogan
Yeah, I did it with him.
rich vos
Yeah. Oh, you did the Virus Tour?
joe rogan
Yeah, I did one of them.
rich vos
I hosted every show.
joe rogan
Yeah, I did one of them in Vegas.
rich vos
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, the Vegas one.
joe rogan
That was the last time I saw Patrice.
Wow. Yeah.
rich vos
We're doing the benefit.
I host it every year and Billy closes it.
We're doing it, I think, in May this year.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
Yeah. Okay, so it's next month.
Do you know the dates?
rich vos
Yeah, I'll tell you right now.
joe rogan
Tell everybody so they can go buy tickets.
rich vos
Bust out those glasses, Grandpa.
These are dollar store glasses, okay?
joe rogan
Why do you buy them at the dollar store?
rich vos
Because my good ones are at the hotel.
I don't want to lose them.
joe rogan
Oh, you don't want to waste them.
rich vos
I don't want to lose them.
Yeah, I mean...
I would have worn the good ones on Theo's podcast.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, I'm looking at your face when you turn sideways so I can see how much magnification you got.
What are those?
How many X you got?
250. That's it?
rich vos
Yeah. Oh, okay.
joe rogan
It looks like I'm seeing double the size of your fucking...
It looks like you got stung by a bee.
rich vos
Listen to me.
unidentified
Listen to me.
joe rogan
So it's already sold out?
So people can't buy tickets?
rich vos
I'm sure.
It sells out every year.
joe rogan
It is beautiful that you guys do that every year.
The Patrice benefit.
Yeah. It's very cool.
You talk about a guy that touched so many people because he was so brilliant.
rich vos
How could it be on a Sunday?
The Patrice benefit.
It says May 18th in my calendar.
Maybe because Billy's doing 12 Angry Men.
He's playing every fucking character.
No, he's in Gary Glang Ross.
joe rogan
Oh, is he?
unidentified
Yeah. Is he coffee for closers?
joe rogan
Is he that guy?
rich vos
I don't know.
Go see it.
I'd rather fucking walk through Lebanon wearing a fucking yarmulke.
Go see that fucking angry hack.
Fuck off, Billy.
Shut the fuck up.
Send me your stupid pro-Palestinian bullshit.
Shut up.
joe rogan
Oh, does he have a lot of pro-Palestinian stuff?
rich vos
Oh, we fight all the time online.
joe rogan
He sends it to you?
rich vos
Well, on text.
Really? We go back and forth.
joe rogan
You and Bill Burr go back and forth about Palestine?
unidentified
For real?
rich vos
Yeah, sometimes, yeah.
Wow. Yeah.
But, you know, look, I'm friends with him for years.
Of course.
I mean, forever.
Yeah. Fucking Billy, you know.
joe rogan
Fucking... When comedians get political and to the point where they distance themselves with people that don't agree with them, that to me is hilarious.
Hilarious in how stupid it is.
Like, what are you doing?
Yeah. What are you doing?
Like, this is where you're going to fucking draw the line on some shit that barely affects your personal life?
rich vos
I've not...
Any of my friends that are like that, I'm still friends with them.
I don't agree with a lot of the shit and they're stupid.
Yeah, exactly.
One or two people I think say really vile stuff and I just mute them.
I don't deal with them.
They're not friend friends.
Right. I mean, shit, me and Norton don't agree on everything.
joe rogan
How can you?
How can you agree on everything?
rich vos
His wife is so much hotter than my wife.
joe rogan
She's got a better dick.
rich vos
She was the best man at his wedding.
Norton is so quick and funny.
He was the best man at my wedding.
He's so fucking funny.
joe rogan
He's great on Kill Tony.
He's one of the best guests.
rich vos
You know who else is fucking...
Colin is so funny.
He's so quick.
joe rogan
Colin's amazing.
There's a bunch of guys, and I think I put you in there too, that just never really promoted themselves on social media.
So it's like, you're really good, but even Attell.
Attell, for the level of comedy that he is, he should be selling out stadiums every night.
But he just doesn't promote himself at all.
All he does is just, like, all of his following is just word of mouth.
Yeah. And other comics saying how great he is.
And, like, people who have seen him before, they've come to see him again.
rich vos
Well, he says, one of my videos now is up to almost 5 million views.
Is that good?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's good.
rich vos
That's good.
It's really funny.
joe rogan
I believe it.
I believe you're funny.
rich vos
If you want to play it, I will.
joe rogan
No, we don't have to do that.
Let's wrap this up.
So, you're going to be at the Mothership.
What are the dates again?
June what?
rich vos
June, I think, 27th, 28th, and 28th.
I do it every week on my birthday.
joe rogan
Take pictures of you with your shirt off.
So prepare for that.
rich vos
Get ready.
joe rogan
Get yourself in shape.
Tomorrow I'm going to bring you to Waste Well.
Get you on the peptides and get your blood work and find out what the fuck's going on with your shoulder and shoot you up with stem cells.
rich vos
I do have a special on Amazon called Rich Voss Anonymous.
It's pretty funny.
joe rogan
Why is it called anonymous?
rich vos
Because I taped it at an NA convention.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
rich vos
And the backdrop.
Bonnie directed the beginning.
The backdrop is fucking so cool.
joe rogan
There it is.
Look at you.
rich vos
It's false anonymous.
joe rogan
You look good there.
rich vos
Where's the trailer?
joe rogan
Dangerous man.
You look dangerous.
rich vos
Can you play the trailer?
joe rogan
No, we're not going to play the trailer.
rich vos
Okay, good.
joe rogan
We're going to leave.
I'm going to wrap this up.
We don't need to play a trailer.
You're funny.
rich vos
I was doing it for you.
No. I don't care about me.
joe rogan
For you, I'm going to not do it.
unidentified
It's better.
rich vos
What are you doing?
joe rogan
I'm not listening.
unidentified
Listen.
rich vos
I've done this podcast three times and this is the most fun I had.
It was fun.
joe rogan
We had a good time.
rich vos
I had a good time.
joe rogan
Come to the club tomorrow too.
We'll hang out.
You got any sets tomorrow?
No. Alright, come to the club.
Do bottom of the barrel, too.
What's that?
There's a whiskey barrel on stage with notes in it from the audience.
You pull them out and you just riff.
rich vos
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, you'll love it.
It's so much fun.
It's like a premise factory.
rich vos
So what am I going to do about this thing tomorrow?
joe rogan
As soon as we wrap.
I'll set it up as soon as we get done here.
rich vos
This was fun.
Thank you for having me.
joe rogan
Rich Voss, ladies and gentlemen.
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