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April 2, 2025 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #2298 - Kurt Metzger
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kurt metzger
I have these shades, you know why?
I'll save this gold.
unidentified
Hold on.
joe rogan
Because the future's so bright.
You gotta wear shades.
kurt metzger
Oh, Nuclear War.
The Flash, you have 59. Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's good.
Protection. I heard.
Get under the table as well.
You remember that in high school?
Did they do that in your high school?
You're younger than me.
kurt metzger
Okay, yeah.
unidentified
I'm 47. I'm 10 years older.
joe rogan
They told you get under the table.
kurt metzger
They did that surprisingly long.
joe rogan
It's like a mask for COVID.
It's basically the same thing.
That is not working.
Getting under the table is so dumb.
It's a fucking nuclear blast that annihilates buildings.
You're saying getting under my stupid desk with a clamshell?
Remember those desks with a clamshell?
kurt metzger
It's the only shot we got.
Now, I saw Indiana Jones get in a fridge.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was a good move.
kurt metzger
Or was he at Trinity?
I don't know.
He got in the fridge.
They really made them things back then, you know?
joe rogan
What the fuck?
Can you imagine being those guys in, like, the Manhattan Project when they first do it?
They first detonate it, and they're like, what in the holy fuck?
kurt metzger
Yeah, well, they kind of didn't know what was going to happen, right?
joe rogan
They didn't know.
There was a less than zero chance that it would burn up the entire atmosphere of the Earth instantaneously and all life would be over.
kurt metzger
Well, the chance we've got to take.
They took it.
joe rogan
They just took it.
Yeah. I wonder if it was bigger than they thought it was.
I wonder what...
So, like, no one had ever seen a nuclear explosion before those people did.
kurt metzger
Weren't they too close?
joe rogan
Well, they definitely weren't really far away, right?
kurt metzger
I know a few of them.
People were too close.
joe rogan
Well, you know, the real problem is the area where they did it is radioactive forever.
Like, they did a bunch of these tests out in the desert, and then John Wayne and his crew went out there and all got cancer.
Yeah, exactly.
kurt metzger
Genghis Khan.
joe rogan
Yeah, which is a terrible movie.
kurt metzger
It's one of the most amazing, because it's cursed from the gate.
joe rogan
Yeah. It's probably cursed by Genghis Khan.
kurt metzger
I hope it was.
joe rogan
And if you're going to make a bullshit version of one of the most fascinating human beings that has ever lived, a bullshit version of their life, it would be a John Wayne movie from the 1960s.
Was it even the 60s?
Was it the 50s?
kurt metzger
Is that the original?
joe rogan
Whitewashed movie?
kurt metzger
Well, no, not whitewashed, but like, you know, Jada Pinkett Smith made Cleopatra, where it's like Cleopatra's black on Netflix, and it was like...
It was like, she clearly sees Cleopatra as her, and it's like a suck-up to herself.
And John Wayne, I'm sure, was thinking that with Genghis Khan.
Genghis Khan was 65. Yeah, so that's like Jada Pink...
joe rogan
Oh, it says 56. The Conqueror.
kurt metzger
Yeah. This is the same.
joe rogan
Hold on.
What was the 65 one?
Who did that one?
Is that John Wayne?
No. Oh, Omar Sharif.
Okay. That's closer.
So they've done a few of those.
Yeah, you're getting a little closer with Omar Sharif.
But even then, you should be getting a guy from Mongolia.
I mean, if you want me to believe that it's Genghis Khan, find a guy in Mongolia.
kurt metzger
There's got to be a guy who can act.
Oh, I don't.
joe rogan
Acting is not that hard.
kurt metzger
I don't want you to believe.
I want you to identify with him and see yourself reflected.
There's John Wayne, wokely wanting to see himself reflected in the story of Genghis Khan.
joe rogan
You think so?
I think it was a giant movie and they offered him a shit ton of money and he's a giant movie star.
kurt metzger
It's not his project?
joe rogan
And there was only like five movie stars back then.
Was it John Wayne's project?
kurt metzger
You know what?
Maybe I'm wrong.
Can I take off my Trump one piece?
One piece is really hot.
Now I put this on.
joe rogan
You put it on over your clothes though.
kurt metzger
I put it on over my shirt because I want the great job so far.
joe rogan
Where did you get that thing?
kurt metzger
Out there, every time I come, Jamie has a box of Bizarre merch.
joe rogan
Somebody sent us that!
kurt metzger
Okay, let me tell you.
I put this on to celebrate.
I told Jamie.
Because Hawk Tua has been pardoned.
Has she?
joe rogan
Are you joking?
kurt metzger
Finally. Finally.
Julian Assange only took, what did it take, 20 years?
joe rogan
Wait a minute, are you serious or are you joking?
kurt metzger
I'm dead serious.
jamie vernon
It's not a part, but the SEC said no charges.
joe rogan
Okay, so is that because she didn't have anything to do with the crime, or is it because there wasn't a crime?
What is it?
kurt metzger
There's a crime.
I don't think...
joe rogan
But is it a crime?
Is it illegal?
This is the question with all this, like, fake money stuff.
This is why it's so confusing.
If you have these meme coins and people are genuinely making millions of dollars from real meme coins.
But it's still, it's kind of bullshit.
It's kind of a fake money.
And anybody can kind of make it and then sell it.
Like, there's no rules, right?
Like, you can dump it, right?
kurt metzger
Did I tell you my buddy was making, they make those AI slaves that they stack to make, like, memes and coins?
A lot of these guys are in Puerto Rico or like Dominican Republic because of taxes.
Yeah. So the guys that make those coins, they refer to people who buy those coins as degenerate gamblers.
Right. Because that's what they are.
So that's all it is.
You could say, why is the stock market less degenerate gambler than that?
I guess because, I don't know why.
Maybe you get backed up on certain investments by the government because there's a little bit more.
Fake regulation?
I don't know.
joe rogan
It is kind of crazy that it's based entirely on information and confidence about a company.
And it can go up or down depending upon who the CEO gets caught sleeping with or what new environmental laws come out.
kurt metzger
It sounds like magical is what it sounds like.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
Like in 2008 when everything just crashed, there was this dude who lived next to me.
I had a lot next to my house in California and this guy wanted to build a house.
It was the saddest fucking thing, man.
This was like in 2012.
When we were living there, this dude was raking his lawn.
And so I went over just to talk to him.
There's no house there.
And the dude would just like clean up brush and shit.
He was like a responsible landowner.
And he didn't even have a property, a house on it.
And I said, are you going to build here?
Because I knew you were going to build here a while back, but we never heard anything.
And he's like, I lost everything in the crash.
He goes, I saved up.
All my life working, I had this dream to build this house.
The property was really beautiful.
It was on the top of the hill, looking down on this valley.
It would have been an amazing place to finally die.
This guy was old, man.
He was just super bummed out, man.
kurt metzger
This is a real John Steinbeck story you got.
joe rogan
It's all just based on...
It's not gold, right?
It fluctuates.
Companies can go under.
The stock market can crash.
The money can disappear.
It's like, it's not stable.
It's a wild gamble.
kurt metzger
Some would call it Babylonian money magic.
joe rogan
But it's so nuts that that's what our economy is based on, instead of actual assets.
kurt metzger
Let's get crazy about it.
joe rogan
But it's so crazy that you can do the meme coin thing where you can just have like, okay, let's just have almost no rules and just go buck wild and have cock coin and have cock coin trading for, you know, $150 a coin.
kurt metzger
It's a bunch of nerds that some of the nerds are smarter than the other nerds.
Yeah. But they all think they're smart and they're not.
That's how you get tricked is because on hot tool coin, ask Avi Zill next time he's here, but I'm pretty sure.
The people that got scammed thought they were gonna get out early.
Like, they had been sold.
And I know this has to be illegal.
They were sold the idea that they were the initial, you know, whatever, the early bird.
joe rogan
Early bird investors.
They can't pull the rug on you.
unidentified
And they weren't.
kurt metzger
Yeah, and they weren't because they had gotten in on the ground floor.
So that's why I think that if I had to guess where the big fraud is.
But she's like George Foreman with his grill.
Like George Foreman didn't make a grill.
I told you Howie.
joe rogan
She's 22 years old.
That girl probably knows almost nothing about the economy.
kurt metzger
She's jack shit.
joe rogan
I know almost nothing and she probably knows less than me.
kurt metzger
Howie Mandel's son-in-law is the guy behind Hawk Tool Coin.
What? I told you last time.
His name's DJ something.
joe rogan
Did you?
kurt metzger
DJ at LA.
joe rogan
So much information when I talk to you.
When I get a text message from you, I always take a deep breath.
kurt metzger
I know.
Well, you sometimes...
joe rogan
What do we got?
kurt metzger
By the way, that thing you were saying, were you just describing the market right now?
Yeah. I was just chuckling like, oh, yes, but Social Security is the biggest Ponzi scheme.
Not that shit.
Social Security is the word.
That's the one that we got to tackle.
That scheme.
Not all the other things such as what you just described pretty well, I think.
joe rogan
Okay, so what are the big problems with Social Security?
Let's lay it out.
As seen by Kurt Metzger.
kurt metzger
Well, people are going to want it because they paid into it.
Entitled. That's a problem, I see.
Got to get in there.
Dude, why are you...
Steve Bannon is 100% right.
He said it on Jimmy's show about Trump.
Because Trump said he's not going to touch it.
All these pricks on both sides want to cut that out.
And then they want to have...
You should have the freedom to invest into the stock market.
Or, like, a 401k.
You know the things that sometimes are, like, hawk to a coin that don't pay out?
Social Security's never missed a payment to anybody.
That's probably to a fault, because I'm sure there is fraud, because it's never missed a payment.
So, why don't you go get the fraud out of it, okay?
I'm actually, like, irritated thinking about it, because we played Howard Lutnick.
Did you ever see that guy, Howard Lutnick?
It's Trump's Commerce Secretary, I want to say.
Talking to...
Who the hell is he talking to about why...
He goes, if my mother-in-law, who's 95, didn't get her Social Security tax, she's not going to call and complain.
Really? Billionaire guy?
Your mother-in-law will be fine.
joe rogan
I did hear someone say that.
I saw it written down.
kurt metzger
Great pick, Trump.
joe rogan
I didn't see him say it, but there's no way to do that right.
To look at that statement the most charitable way.
Do you know people are living barely?
There's so many people.
If you're on Social Security, you're getting a very small amount of money.
You're on a very fixed income.
kurt metzger
Then you're owed.
joe rogan
And if you don't, if you miss a month, that's a big fucking deal, man.
Yeah. And you're old, and you don't need that kind of stress in your life.
You know, if you're old as fuck, and then all of a sudden your Social Security stops, that's fucking terrifying.
kurt metzger
Well, you know what the plan is, by these prick oligarchs, what they want is, so first Doge, so just everybody freaking out about Doge, and which, you're such a, like, uninformed.
Doge is not going to be anything.
I got news for everybody.
That's Thomas Mazze.
That guy's who's right.
That continuing resolution means everything got funded again until the next time when they're going to do another continuing resolution because they said last time, this is what Massey explains.
So everything's funded, plus another $6 billion for the Pentagon.
So people are freaking out, but there's nothing cut.
But you know what I bet they are going to get to?
Your entitlements.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
kurt metzger
They'll make sure to cut that.
Not Ukraine, not Israel.
joe rogan
Well, they haven't even started with military.
But just right now, like the USAID stuff, right?
They definitely have cut a lot.
kurt metzger
That's discretionary.
So that just means the money's still in the budget, but I don't know.
It'll go all day as real.
I have no idea what it means.
It's discretionary.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
So that means the programs are cut, but the money is still allocated somewhere else?
kurt metzger
It's still up there in the blob going to whatever.
Do you think they really made a Guatemalan gender non-binary musical?
No. They didn't.
Somebody bought a gun or something.
That's what happened.
joe rogan
Of course.
kurt metzger
So literally no change.
joe rogan
Was it a genius, though, to call it USAID?
Because you have to be for it.
It's like Patriot Act.
kurt metzger
I think this part should be the crime, because it's USAID.
But they color the A the same color as the I and the D. Do they?
Yeah, so you think it's USAID.
joe rogan
Oh, that's so dirty.
kurt metzger
But I didn't know.
Is that really how they do it?
So see the deception on purpose with that?
jamie vernon
That's rude.
joe rogan
Yeah. That's rude.
kurt metzger
It's USAID, not that.
Wow. More like U.S. AIDS, am I right?
jamie vernon
From the American people, which is like...
joe rogan
It's so tricky.
unidentified
Oh, good.
kurt metzger
Put my name on that evil shit you do.
Thank you.
joe rogan
It's so tricky because USAID just seems like a great name for a real charitable organization.
kurt metzger
Yeah, it sounds like very American.
You know why it sounds so America?
Because it's called USAID, but it's not for anyone here.
joe rogan
Right, but also you have to support all AIDS.
Okay, if you're not even thinking, like no information in the news at all, if someone tells you, do you want to cut aid, you're a good person.
You're gonna say no.
Of course we don't want to cut aid.
This is U.S. aid.
They're gonna cut U.S. aid like, oh my god, where do I sign?
I want to stop.
We need aid.
Everyone needs aid.
kurt metzger
Okay, but the leaders...
See, look, I'm cynical as a guy who's never been in politics.
The way these people operate is where they're saying the exact opposite of the thing they just said.
That's conscious they're doing that.
They're like, that's the game.
You've got to just tell a complete lie and go completely back on it.
joe rogan
Well, even just calling it USAID when it's the United States Agency for International Development.
Yeah. Like, wait a minute.
What do you guys do?
kurt metzger
How about the Patriot Act when it's the U.S. Department of spying on your dick pics on your phone?
unidentified
How about that?
kurt metzger
Deception. How about all of it?
Are we keeping the Patriot Act?
I hope that won't be touched.
joe rogan
Let's ramp it up.
We need a number three.
kurt metzger
We did!
joe rogan
The two is just too weak these days with all the cybersecurity risks.
kurt metzger
I got great news.
Oh, this is my Timber Sycamore shirt.
joe rogan
What is that?
kurt metzger
That's the operation where Obama started, you know, to get rid of Assad, install an Al-Qaeda leader in Syria.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
It has a t-shirt?
kurt metzger
No, I have a charity called Shirts for Kurtz where...
I take the names of operations.
I go, make me a t-shirt that I will wear around that looks like a band or something.
So I got some good...
This guy, Fret Pound, his name is, sent this to me.
He sent it to the club.
joe rogan
So what are you wearing?
Timber Sycamore.
Classified weapons supply and training program run by the United States Central Intelligence Agency and supported by the United Kingdom and some Arab intelligence services, including Saudi intelligence.
The aim of the program was to remove Syrian President Bashar al-Assad from power.
Launched in 2012 or 2013, it supplied money, weaponry, and training to Syrian opposition groups fighting Syrian government forces in the Syrian civil war.
There's a lot of Syrians in there.
kurt metzger
That's where we armed al-Qaeda.
Any guys watching out there, or gals, if you got any limbs blown off guard in a poppy field for a warlord?
Al-Qaeda, we installed them.
We're back together with them.
We're cool again.
You don't have to shoot them if you see them.
joe rogan
They're not all bad guys.
kurt metzger
Al-Qaeda?
joe rogan
Cut them some slack.
What did I send you something earlier today?
kurt metzger
Oh, I didn't look at it.
The Sean Ryan thing?
joe rogan
Yeah, about heroin.
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kurt metzger
It's more than that.
I've mentioned it quite a few times, and I've seen it back before the State Department said they accidentally gave them the money.
You know how we left the wrong way and left all our stuff and didn't – we thought it was disabled, but it wasn't?
Well, that's the lithium triangle that Afghanistan is in.
So I'm sure that's part of the deal.
We give them all our stuff.
Hey, they played a good game.
Give them some helicopters.
And we can train terrorists there because most of the Islamists came from us or Saudis or Israel or Pakistan, most of them.
And we paid them like $100 million out of the State Department.
Maybe it was the USA.
I don't know.
But a dude who showed me a video of it that he had, he wouldn't text it to me.
He was, like, scared to text it to me.
But this guy used to be an international press pass.
He showed me a video of these Taliban guys.
They made, like, a fort out of American money.
They made, like, way more than a chest-eye wall of money.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
kurt metzger
And so he wouldn't send it to me.
But then two weeks later...
It comes out in the news that they accidentally...
So they slipped in that they gave it to them.
But they have lithium there, because that's the name of the game.
joe rogan
Right? I'm going to send you this Sean Ryan thing, Jamie.
kurt metzger
So he's right about that.
joe rogan
Sorry for the long pause earlier.
I was trying to figure something out.
kurt metzger
So he's right what he's saying, but I'm like, you weren't aware of this earlier, Sean?
As a guy that ran a cartel.
Or whatever.
That's where he came from.
He's in Columbia running a drug network.
They don't just let Americans do that unless they're like, you know, come on.
joe rogan
Well, he was openly working for the government, right?
When he was doing that?
kurt metzger
Oh, you don't think he was selling the drugs on behalf of the government?
joe rogan
I don't know what he's even admitted to doing.
By the way, I really like this guy.
I know you have issues with him.
I don't have any personal issues with him.
I like him a lot.
kurt metzger
Well, I don't have any personal issues.
I don't want to say that.
He's a killer.
joe rogan
There's guys that get into the military, start working for the government, become agency people, get hired to do jobs all over the world, and I know a bunch of them.
And they're some of the most interesting people I've ever met in my life.
100%. But they don't agree with the way things are being run.
And if they've done that, and then they step out, and then they start talking about it like Sean Ryan.
You gotta kind of like...
kurt metzger
That makes total sense.
Yeah. Everything you're saying is perfectly reasonable.
Now I remember when the Tesla, the guy who blew up his own Tesla outside of Elon's...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
kurt metzger
He had this like skull and he was like, oh, we just got word that I got this email.
And then all of a sudden, next thing he's in another...
And we're not talking about it no more.
That's very oppy.
joe rogan
Well, it is.
But you know what's also?
It also could be...
If you don't...
Like, how long has Sean Ryan been doing a show?
kurt metzger
I don't know.
He came out of nowhere.
joe rogan
One thing that does happen is you get duped.
You know, we've been duped before.
I've had people on the podcast where I'm like, this guy's kind of a con artist.
Like, you get duped.
And you get duped with stories.
You get duped.
People send you stuff that's not real.
They send you down these rabbit holes that are stupid.
If you're not seasoned...
And I'm still fucking up all the time.
But if you haven't done a lot of these kind of podcasts where you're talking about controversial issues, sometimes you say something that's not totally accurate.
Or maybe the people that are telling you the information aren't who they say they are.
Maybe you're being purposely fed misinformation.
It's fucking hard to figure it out sometimes.
kurt metzger
It is for me.
Now, I'm just saying.
joe rogan
But what was proven about the letter, right?
So the dude wrote a letter, correct?
Or was it an email?
kurt metzger
What was it?
joe rogan
There's some writing that he was talking about.
kurt metzger
Oh, about how somebody, was it Iran or China or somebody?
It was like with the drone.
joe rogan
Right, it had something to do with the Jersey drone situation, right?
kurt metzger
Yeah, which I'm guessing is Palmer Luckey's outfit, not China.
My guess, Palmer Luckey.
That's swarm drones.
It's something to see how you deal with it.
Nobody cares.
joe rogan
It's hard to trust super smart dudes who wear flip-flops on podcasts.
I saw him with the flip-flops and I was like, this guy's too crazy.
kurt metzger
I trust that he has some clearance.
joe rogan
He's making drones and he doesn't even want to have shoes on.
kurt metzger
I might be wrong, but I think his initial start, because he went through some bullshit where he was trying to sell the military something kind of like a robot truck that puts out fires, which you need.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
kurt metzger
But they don't want stuff to, you know, it's the military.
joe rogan
He sounds like a guy in a Spider-Man.
Comic book that like is a reluctant hero like he was a bad guy doing bad things.
You know what I mean?
kurt metzger
Oh, yeah.
It's like a hacker they caught and they're like now you work for us.
joe rogan
It's just like imagine that's your specialty is making awesome weaponry.
Yeah, well you're gonna want to do what you what you do I guess right like if you're a comic you want to tell jokes if you're a guy who makes awesome weaponry you want to fuck around and find out I mean as a comic you use murder language to talk about it Right?
kurt metzger
Yes. Like, this was gonna kill.
joe rogan
Yeah, he crushed it.
kurt metzger
This was gonna cavitate the back of your head out when I tell you about...
joe rogan
Goddamn, man.
It's like...
kurt metzger
Well, look, I was just...
joe rogan
Sean's show, he's had a few people on where I was like, I don't know, dude.
I don't know about this guy.
kurt metzger
I think Joe McMonigo...
joe rogan
But I've had a few people on like that.
I've had a few people on where I was like, I don't know about this guy.
kurt metzger
I'm not going off, because I don't believe anything.
I just want to hear a new story that doesn't make me bored, because I heard a lot of stories, you know?
That's all.
Right. So, what happens then, if you tell me something new I haven't heard, I'll remember it, because I go, oh, that's interesting.
I forget boring things, and I remember everything that's interesting to me.
So later, when I'm looking at news stuff on, sidekicking on Jimmy, or whatever, now I have all this, it's just the way you write jokes.
Like, I have a, I could cross-reference.
I need as much data as I could get.
About every single thing, you know?
Right. So that I can make connections.
That's just for joke writing.
Any kind of writing.
So you have to analyze stuff.
So I just go off the old, you know, a tree by its fruits, right?
The Bible saying, I think it's a correct saying.
If I know the truth about certain current events, and I'm watching, and I know your background, that you should know this or that.
And maybe you don't, though.
I allow for that.
I'm just saying I've seen a bunch of people.
That woman who was like, ISIS is back, and Iran is here.
joe rogan
Who was that woman?
kurt metzger
The CIA lady.
joe rogan
That's a bad impression, by the way.
I didn't know who you were talking about.
kurt metzger
It was my impression of how she was talking about ISIS.
So it was when the Tesla truck blew up.
I've been making jokes about it because, hey guys, ISIS is back and no one cares.
joe rogan
Let's pause for a second.
And what did the guy say?
Because let's find that note.
No, no, the guy who blew himself up, the Tesla truck.
kurt metzger
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
We never got to that.
kurt metzger
Oh, nice, Jamie.
joe rogan
There it is.
It says, first off, I am not under duress or hostile influence or control.
My first car was a 2006 Black Ford Mustang V6 for verification.
We've done this before, Jamie, so we've read this all out, and the Mustang's not correct.
That's part of the problem, right?
jamie vernon
That might be a signal, though.
They were saying that that could just be a code.
joe rogan
Oh, right, which is why you would say that in that way.
Yeah. Right, that would be a way you could...
Yeah, that makes sense, actually.
But why would you do that if this is going to be a public thing?
jamie vernon
I don't know that it was meant to be public, but there's...
FBI, I guess, verified that it was from him.
They didn't verify the content.
They just said, we know that he sent it.
joe rogan
Right. So who did he send it to?
kurt metzger
Look at this.
jamie vernon
This guy named Shoemate, who is a guy who does an Instagram account that talks about military stuff.
I don't know if he's a whistleblower officially, but he had a big military account on Instagram.
kurt metzger
So this level of bullshit, it was bewildering when I read this.
This was about drones blaming China.
Now I remember, because I had a joke about it.
Did China send the drones because of all of this?
And then he does the Chinese spy balloon bullshit.
If a Chinese spy balloon, you know, they made up all these little details after the fact.
There's actually an article where military goes, it's more than likely not a spy balloon.
It got from mainland China, a big white balloon.
This is China on it.
We got over all our bases in the Pacific, which if you look at the map of how many bases we have, it looks like a sex offender registry.
Okay? All our balloon sensing equipment, I assume, from the trillions of dollars they just lose making our amazing force, got past them to Billings, Montana.
No, that was an actual balloon.
There was unseasonable.
I believe the simpler explanation of the unseasonable winds blew a balloon into Billings, Montana.
And that's why Biden didn't shoot it down.
We've had this happen many times when those balloons.
Then they go, oh, maybe we shot down two more balloons.
It might be UFOs.
Remember that bullshit?
Yeah. So, as soon as you hear all the nonsense coming out, you're like, what is this?
So, the balloon was just that, a weather balloon.
They all know it.
Remember, like, Biden, why didn't you shoot down this balloon?
It's a spy balloon.
Yeah, he purposely left the spy balloon to spy on us.
It's such bullshit.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, what do you think the spy balloon was?
kurt metzger
A balloon.
joe rogan
But it had electronics on it.
kurt metzger
Oh, okay.
Yo, if you look at Zillow, I'm pretty sure it body scans your whole fucking face.
joe rogan
Does it?
kurt metzger
What do you mean?
My girl likes to look at houses on Zillow.
Dude, your phone, the way it's used to track you is unbelievable.
And amateurs, that's how we...
I'm pretty sure the Bernie and AOC rallies where I'm like, there's no way that many people are going to see these losers.
joe rogan
Well, that's a fact.
kurt metzger
But they tracked the phones of the people, and then they knew the same people kept going to the same Bernie and AOC concert.
joe rogan
They were going there, and they were also going to Kamala Harris rallies, and they were going to a bunch of other different left-wing protests.
That's a thing.
kurt metzger
People get paid to be Democrat.
joe rogan
They get paid.
It's a real job.
Like, you can get real money, much more money than you make working at McDonald's to just show up and grab a sign and get in the stands.
And so you can get 24,000 people.
You know, you have to pay them.
But if you do, they'll go.
And you can just keep doing that if you have an insane amount of money.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well, that's what they've been doing for a while, ever since the tea party.
joe rogan
Look at the fucking, the amount of money that she spent on that campaign.
kurt metzger
She ran a great campaign.
You gotta admit that.
joe rogan
It was pretty rock tight.
What was the total?
kurt metzger
Every Diddy suspect.
Beyonce, not singing, just talking.
Yeah. Great commercials, reaching out to men.
Not going on your show, going on the caller, I think that's Hawk to his mom, Caller Daddy.
Great job, guys.
And she lost the cherry on top of that great campaign.
joe rogan
Well, what was really funny was afterwards they were asking for money.
After it's over.
Like, how?
Why didn't you save some?
kurt metzger
Dude, they did that after Roe v.
Wade to the Democrats.
joe rogan
Yeah, they did immediately.
kurt metzger
Right after.
joe rogan
Immediately. Donate.
kurt metzger
Which is like...
joe rogan
Donate to the Democratic Party.
We're going to protect Roe v.
kurt metzger
Wade. Screaming about Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who always thought Roe v.
Wade should be overturned on illegal reasons.
Because it's a bad, in her mind, but bad ruling.
Katie Couric edits out her real feelings out of the book, you know?
joe rogan
There's really no way other than AI judges.
AI judges.
AI government.
That's the only way.
kurt metzger
It's the only way.
Who's going to program God?
Who's going to program that God that I can believe in?
Muslims? It better not be Muslims.
joe rogan
We're going to allow it to program itself.
kurt metzger
Oh. Well, I bet you that something like that has happened several times.
joe rogan
Well, it's going to happen.
I don't know if it has happened.
Why do you think it has happened?
kurt metzger
Because all these, like, all these, like, elite, you know, they go, oh, who's the secret elite running?
Right. Well, here's a clue, and I don't know if this is an obvious clue.
You know how we still have royalty everywhere?
You know, by definition, a bloodline that should be over you that for some reason we're obsessed with here in America where we rebelled.
People fight over Snow White.
The Bavarian fairy tale to inculcate you with bloodline shit.
And then people are mad at the big head girl that...
What's her fucking name?
That she looks like a mothership alien.
The Snow White they got.
The Puerto Rican Snow White.
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Jesus Christ!
kurt metzger
I'm forgetting her name.
Jesus Christ!
joe rogan
I did not know where you were going there.
kurt metzger
You know, I...
joe rogan
Yes. The young lady.
kurt metzger
So when it first came...
joe rogan
What's her name?
kurt metzger
Rachel? Yeah, so now if you notice the spin on it, they're putting it all on her.
I mean, I'm sure she sucks, but she is very young.
joe rogan
She's a fucking kid, right?
kurt metzger
She didn't write that script though, right?
And I don't think she made the no dwarves decisions.
That was Sir Peter Dinklage.
joe rogan
Well, that was crazy, right?
Do you know when they did the original Snow White?
I was listening to Cody Tucker on Instagram.
He was talking about this.
When they did the original version of The Wizard of Oz, they couldn't get dwarves because they'd all been killed by the Nazis.
They had to bring them in to film things.
kurt metzger
Wait, okay, hold on.
Where did they film this?
joe rogan
God, I want to say...
Find out where The Wizard of Oz was filmed.
kurt metzger
Wait, so the American dwarves were killed by the Nazis?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no.
They didn't film it in America.
They filmed it in, like, Bavaria.
And there was no dwarves.
kurt metzger
They didn't want to pay Union dwarves.
joe rogan
The Nazis had killed them all.
No one talks about that, apparently.
But that was a thing, that they killed all of them.
kurt metzger
I find that surprising with their supposed love of German folklore that they would attack the luckiest creatures.
joe rogan
Or Cody was incorrect.
kurt metzger
Maybe he's right, though.
jamie vernon
I think it's not exactly that way.
Hold on, though.
joe rogan
If the Nazis, like, if they wanted to create a master race, you'd have to imagine that, like, mentally handicapped people, all those type, they probably have pretty brutal measures for dealing with that.
kurt metzger
Well, I know they did because they, as you know, copied them from us where we started that first.
What? We started that?
Yeah. Eugenics is from America.
All the things are from America.
Or England.
All the things.
You think of Nazis as some, like, an Al-Qaeda that somebody funded because it worked out for them at the time until it didn't work out.
It's like constant gain of function, right?
Gain of function government.
joe rogan
That's a great line.
Gain of function government.
kurt metzger
Hey, what if we make it more deadly?
Oh no, you guys gotta be locked down because we cocked up some virus.
joe rogan
Carol recalled that some of the Munchkins were German-born actors who performed throughout Europe in a midget troupe booked by showman Leo Singer who arranged to bring them to the United States for filming.
The Wizard of Oz allowed the actors to escape as Nazis began to extend their reach across Europe in the late 1930s.
Well, when did they do the Wizard of Oz?
kurt metzger
Dude, you just reminded me.
joe rogan
They were already killing people.
kurt metzger
You just reminded me of something great.
Okay. So this is one of my favorite historical...
So you know how back in the day, Jeffrey Hudson.
Do you know about Jeffrey Hudson?
The Queen's Dwarf in England?
So back in the day...
Let me just see the year here.
From 1619 to 1682.
He lived kind of long, I guess.
Anyway, back then, royalty would collect dwarves, or if you were really fat because you had some glam problem, there's a girl in Spain like that, and someone discovered you, royals would keep you in a menagerie.
Like, ooh, a dwarf!
And you'd be like her dwarf.
Like a Paris Hilton dog.
So this guy, Jeffrey Hudson, I can't remember what queen it is, but for her birthday, they baked him into a pie.
I mean, they didn't bake it, but they put him in a pie.
Okay? So she presented this gigantic pie.
He jumps out and then starts dancing on the table, and she loved it.
I think he belonged to another noble family.
It's like, well, you could have him.
So then he became her dwarf, and he had a little sword.
One of her relatives would disguise himself as a poor person and go...
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Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
That laugh.
kurt metzger
Look at it.
My voice is gone from yelling at hobos.
Look at him there.
And there he is with the queen walking him.
You gotta take care of him, you know?
jamie vernon
Jesus Christ.
kurt metzger
Probably a better life than a full-size adult back then, you know?
joe rogan
Imagine trying to be a jester back then and walk the line between knowing what's across the line, where the king's gonna cut your hand off.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well, if you're this guy and you just jumped out of a pie, the king will let you say all kinds of stuff.
It's like a fun roast.
joe rogan
I think the world was way more like Game of Thrones than we tend to believe.
kurt metzger
He based it on history.
He based all that stuff on real history.
Probably the dragon part.
Sorry, Joy Behar.
joe rogan
I wonder about the dragon part.
kurt metzger
Well, wait, wait, wait.
So, this dude, one of her relatives or something, he stayed with them and the guy would pretend to be a poor person in the street and he would bring Jeffrey with him, okay?
And then do, like, an act.
And, like, he would sit down and he would have these...
He would have, like, a big loaf of bread and then he would make them into a sandwich.
That's one of his...
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, dude.
kurt metzger
He would have them in his pocket, and then he would get out bread, and then he would climb in and make a sandwich, and people loved it.
I mean, I love it just thinking about it.
joe rogan
I went down a dragon rabbit hole the other day on YouTube.
kurt metzger
Okay, this is the last thing, though, and this is important.
That little guy?
Yeah. So he started getting a big head, okay?
Oh, no.
Yeah, like the classic Howard Stern whack pack kind of development, right?
And he got captured by pirates.
He has a crazy life.
But he had a little sword.
Like, they made him a sword for himself.
And somebody said something to Queen, and he challenged him to a duel.
There's a guy, okay?
They had pistols back then.
It was like the single-shot pistol duel.
And so the guy brought a water gun.
The other guy was like, I'm going to fight a...
The Queen's Dwarf.
And he brought a real gun because he came to, you know, he came for the fate.
He came and shot the guy with a real gun.
The other guy had a squirt gun that he shot.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
kurt metzger
And I'll bet Jeffrey Hudson was like, I'm glad I killed you, motherfucker.
You brought a squirt gun on top of it?
You know, like, that's a guy really not taking you seriously to your duel if he brought a water pistol.
You think, like, my little fingers can't pull a trigger?
That's how I would take it.
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joe rogan
Well, that's how stupid people were back then.
He had completely dismissed that guy in every way to the point where he didn't even think he would be able to shoot him.
Like, how stupid is that?
kurt metzger
It's cruel.
Because that's like a kind of a cruel thing where you're like...
joe rogan
You want to squirt him in the face and everybody laughs.
kurt metzger
Like, okay, dude.
The guy's treating him like the Queen's little dog.
He might have said something to that effect or something.
Okay, but even a dog, you would be like, come on, as a dog, don't be, like, antagonizing the dog.
So even if this guy's not affording humanity to Jeffrey Hudson, you know, like, by the terms of a dog, he wasn't being cool.
You know what I mean?
Like, he was being, like, a cruel, you know, it's a pompous aristocrat.
That's how they are.
They don't think it could happen to them.
joe rogan
Let me get this straight.
Did they use dwarves in Snow White, but they just didn't call them dwarves?
Is that what it was?
kurt metzger
So dwarves?
And dwarves are two different things.
What? Yes, I've learned this.
unidentified
No way.
joe rogan
It's not a plural?
kurt metzger
I'm researching for this podcast.
joe rogan
Dwarfs is not plural?
kurt metzger
Right. So dwarfs, I don't know which one is which, I forget, but one is the fantasy kind, which are magical creatures and not human beings.
Right. And the other kind, one is Tolkien came up with it.
joe rogan
Oh, one is dwarf and one is dwarf.
kurt metzger
Dwarf, the plural, dwarfs.
joe rogan
Is that it, Jamie?
Oh, okay.
jamie vernon
F is dwarfs, is mythical folklore.
kurt metzger
Oh, that's what it is.
Okay, and then I did a tell one time.
He goes, do you know about dwarves, the war midget?
joe rogan
That's what they were in The Hobbit.
jamie vernon
Hold on now.
kurt metzger
But he's talking about dwarfs.
jamie vernon
I mean, dwarf is folklore, according to Wikipedia.
kurt metzger
Yeah, so I don't know which one's which, but dwarves is plural.
jamie vernon
Why would it be the same?
kurt metzger
There's also dwarves with an F, I swear to God.
jamie vernon
Well, there's dwarfism.
kurt metzger
No, no, dwarves.
joe rogan
Right, but how crazy is it that there's a folklore version?
Did they have magic powers?
jamie vernon
I'm not.
joe rogan
Did the folklore versions have magic powers, or were they just dwarves?
kurt metzger
I imagine that they're probably based on the real life...
People that they then magicked up because my evidence is like Snow White itself.
joe rogan
It says this type of supernatural being in Germanic folklore.
Accounts of dwarves vary significantly throughout history.
Dwarfs vary significantly throughout history.
They are commonly but not exclusively presented as living in the mountains or stones and being skilled craftsmen.
kurt metzger
Huh. And only males.
So dwarfs with an F is the fantasy one.
Okay. And they're all men.
joe rogan
So dwarfs are all a bunch of gay guys.
Yeah. Little tiny gay guys hanging out waiting for that lady to show up.
unidentified
Well, they originally were.
kurt metzger
It was like seven non-binaries or something.
joe rogan
But here's the question.
For the new movie, what did they do?
Because what I had heard was that they CGI'd things in there.
kurt metzger
Yeah, look at them.
Look how bad it looks.
joe rogan
Can I see what it looks like?
I don't like fucking pop-ups.
Is there a video?
kurt metzger
A lot of people make videos about why the CGI seems worse than when it first came out, and that's because these studios are working people.
Disney's notorious.
Disney's one of the worst companies ever existed.
joe rogan
Wait a second, see what it looks like?
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Let's see what it looks like.
Thank you.
jamie vernon
It might be a big reveal.
joe rogan
It kind of sucks that...
A kid gets put into the position like that where they're talking about politics and talking about...
kurt metzger
Look, if you put your kids in auditions, you are trafficking your children, so you know.
joe rogan
Oh, wow, that does look bad.
Oh, it doesn't look real at all.
kurt metzger
Yeah, and then they do all the work while she dances around being a leader or whatever.
The script was screwed from the start.
joe rogan
Wait, how much did this cost?
You should get doged looking at this movie.
They spent $250 million making that movie?
But imagine you spent $250 million and you get some young girl and you don't kind of talk to her about like, hey, you know, don't get political.
You're young.
And I know you have opinions about things, but this should be just about the movie.
kurt metzger
Well, just to defend Big Head Girl, let me tell you something.
The message of the movie is to be that bitch.
That's the message that they wrote a script that's telling girls, I don't need nobody to tell me.
I'm a 20-year-old girl, so obviously I should rub my mouth all the time.
That's the theme of the new Snow White.
joe rogan
No, really?
unidentified
Yes. It's not the same story?
kurt metzger
No. So now they've put it all on her.
Now they've failed.
Here's what happened.
She made the cardinal error of saying free Palestine on Twitter.
So she could say all that men are bad and it's this and that, but once you do that...
Now, they've put the entire weight of the failure upon her.
When really, it's like making Jimmy Fallon apologize for doing a Chris Rock impression when Lauren and a team of lawyers and consultants decided if it was okay the amount of brown they put on him to simulate Chris Rock.
You think Jimmy Fallon made that call?
But he's got to sit there and apologize to a white...
Robin DiAngelo comes on.
I'm not watching this.
Am I dreaming?
And he's like, he's clearly drunk and I don't blame him.
And he's like, thanks so much for coming on.
She goes, you see Jimmy, this weird nun lady, is like giving him a lecture.
joe rogan
Did you ever see her in that Matt Walsh movie?
Did you see Am I Racist?
No. It's fucking hilarious.
kurt metzger
I know she, I know about, we put her in Preztrek, the thing I made with Kyle, the Star Trek of Biden.
joe rogan
In Am I Racist, Matt, didn't he get her to give someone money for reparations?
Yeah. Didn't that happen?
Did you see the movie?
kurt metzger
No, but I saw...
joe rogan
He's a fake academic who's talking to her, and he's like a fake woke guy with like a fake ponytail.
And, you know, he gets her to say the most ridiculous shit.
It's so funny.
kurt metzger
Because her money depends on it.
And he said something interesting I saw him talking about, which is the reason...
Because why would these people sit here and...
He used to say about The Daily Show, why would they sit there and be on the thing?
And he goes, oh, they're aware, but they want the plug.
Do you understand?
Their demographic wants to see them be stupid, and they're going to defend them no matter what, so it don't matter.
Why they would sit there and be part of that.
joe rogan
She didn't have any idea that that's what it was.
She thought they were doing some kind of a documentary on race from a woke perspective.
kurt metzger
Look at what he says about it.
joe rogan
I would have to ask him what the premise was that he set up.
kurt metzger
The other lady.
The lady with the colored hair that he kept asking about.
That was what is a woman, not the race one.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a totally different documentary.
kurt metzger
I think it's the same thing.
Because I saw this on Sasha's show, like an absurd situation.
If these people are like, my job is I'm this thing, they automatically go into it.
It's funny to make her follow her own stupid thing like that, but she's like, she benefits by, even if she looks dumb in it, anyone that believes in that stuff is not going to fault her in that seat.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
kurt metzger
They're not going to look at it and say, it's funny.
They're going to go, what a jerk you are to put her in that position of having to live up to the thing she says she thinks is real.
That's why Kamala couldn't be here.
Because you're going to just ask her, oh, I want to get to know her.
That's not allowed.
That is not going to happen.
The people that liked her, they like her because she never said anything.
They find that savvy and smart to never let people know what you think because that's how they advanced in their careers because the whole thing is the ultimate pyramid scheme is cowardice and turning a blind eye at all times.
joe rogan
Yeah, but therein lies the problem.
Because after a while, the person, no matter who they are, whatever job you're in, if they treat you like you're the boss, you start to think you know what the fuck you're doing.
And she was treated like she was the boss for, you know, many, many years.
And during that time, some people got her to say some crazy shit.
Like when she was talking about certain things or she really didn't have information about it.
She was just rambling circles.
kurt metzger
Kamala. Oh, do you mean when she described what's happening in Ukraine?
Exactly. So, basically Russia's a large...
joe rogan
Ukraine's a small country.
Ukraine's a small country.
Yeah, like, what?
kurt metzger
Oh, it's the Ukraine.
Remember how they said it's Ukraine and not the Ukraine?
joe rogan
Is it the Ukraine?
kurt metzger
Yeah, it means the borderlands.
So, that's some marketing crap where we don't want people thinking it's just the borderlands.
This is a legit thing.
joe rogan
But I always wondered with Kamala Harris, like, I've seen her talk before and she's hilarious.
I think some people just fucking clam up when they get in front of a camera and when they know the whole world's watching and they know there's a lot of pressure and if they fucked up a bunch of times before.
Like, to be good at public speaking under pressure, you have to have a lot of reps in.
You gotta do it a long time.
kurt metzger
She's running for president?
joe rogan
I understand.
kurt metzger
Wendy Williams would have been better.
joe rogan
I understand.
kurt metzger
She has charisma, Wendy Williams.
joe rogan
But I always wonder, like, what is important?
About being a president.
Power. Is it the ability to communicate or is it the ability to rationally assess what needs to be done and what sacrifices have to be made and what's the right direction for everything to go in?
That's the most important thing.
kurt metzger
I'll tell you what it is.
joe rogan
But it's weird how much we rely on charisma and likability and the ability to form sentences in an eloquent manner.
That's impressive.
Even though that's only one aspect of what it would be.
The most important aspect of being a president, I would think, would be rational, be able to make decisions that are very difficult, know the correct direction, and be selfless.
You're doing this for the country.
That's the best version that we could think of as a president.
kurt metzger
That's what you have to look like, but what you have to be good at is looking like you're that.
All those things.
Take orders from the people who are in charge of you.
That's how it's run ever since they killed Kennedy, but probably before then.
joe rogan
Wow, I think that was true.
That's the coup.
kurt metzger
You know the deep state term?
Peter Dale Scott.
He's a leftist Berkeley professor.
joe rogan
What is this fucking thing that I keep hearing that there's a video of Lee Harvey Oswald?
kurt metzger
Oh, Luna.
That's that chick.
Luna said it.
joe rogan
She said that there was a video of Lee Harvey Oswald.
kurt metzger
NBC has it.
joe rogan
NBC has it.
kurt metzger
Where he's like in front of the car or something.
joe rogan
And did Oliver Stone tell her this?
I read that on X. Look, if true, it's explosive.
kurt metzger
You know, I sent Jamie a video.
joe rogan
But how could it possibly be true?
That seems like one of those things where why would NBC hold on to that?
kurt metzger
I ain't seen that.
Dave, what's his name?
Grush guy around.
All these people have these amazing if trues.
joe rogan
He's got a life.
He doesn't have to be on TV all day.
What's going on with that?
Well, it's one thing at a time.
I'm wrangling.
One thing at a time.
The Lee Harvey Oswald thing.
Like, who told her that Lee Harvey Oswald is in this video that's been hidden from the public?
Somebody said it was Oliver North, who, by the way...
kurt metzger
Wait, Stone?
joe rogan
Excuse me, Oliver Stone.
Oliver North.
kurt metzger
The great...
joe rogan
And a fucking Freudian!
Somebody said it was Oliver Stone who's got the craziest fucking recall, dude.
The craziest recall.
I had conversations with him off the air where he was explaining to me deeper and deeper into the fucking connection that was all the different people that were after Kennedy and all the different things.
kurt metzger
It's quite a lot.
joe rogan
He's got it in his fucking head, dude.
That guy's head is a warehouse of information about the JFK assassination.
jamie vernon
I think they're referring to this photo that people said has already been debunked as a guy that...
joe rogan
Yeah, I thought that was debunked a long time ago.
Let me see that photo.
Blow that shit up again.
That guy does not look like Lee Harvey Oswald.
Look at him on the right-hand side.
You can see it.
That is a different shaped face.
That's like a totally different dude.
jamie vernon
If there's something different than this, I don't know.
joe rogan
First of all, didn't every guy who was white in 1963 look like that?
unidentified
They had one fucking haircut.
joe rogan
They all wore the same shirt.
kurt metzger
A nice high and tight.
joe rogan
We were basically the Chinese.
kurt metzger
That was very Chinese.
joe rogan
We were basically like South Korea.
kurt metzger
The North Korean success cut that Kim Jong-un has was our boys.
jamie vernon
Yeah, she said Oliver Stone.
Luna said Oliver Stone, who directed JFK, said he's seen a secondary copy of the film and that NBC has been sitting on it.
kurt metzger
Oh, okay.
So, wait.
Someone's muddying the waters already.
joe rogan
That doesn't mean that...
kurt metzger
You know about her?
joe rogan
Do I know about her?
She's the lady that's in charge of distributing all the UFO stuff, right?
JFK stuff, all that shit, right?
kurt metzger
So, this is very strange.
She's from Florida.
She ran against...
I forget his name, but I sent Jamie the video of this.
This is one of the nuttiest things.
The Republican she was running against in Florida, in the primary, was...
Caught on tape talking about having her killed if she does well and is about to get elected.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
kurt metzger
To someone you...
I know I had heard of them, or some influencer.
William Braddock.
Okay, now I can't find...
joe rogan
William Braddock threatens to send Russian-Ukrainian hit squad after rival for Florida GOP primary.
kurt metzger
Okay, but they say Russian...
Okay, that's actually less weird than some of the other stuff he says, and they don't mention it.
So, play his recording.
Now, he got prosecuted, so this is not him just bragging, I guess.
unidentified
Let me end this.
Wow. And with that kind of money...
Wow. Hit squad,
kurt metzger
not hip hoppers.
Jesus, sir.
joe rogan
Bad captions.
You did not hear that from me.
unidentified
Hear what?
kurt metzger
She's recording him.
unidentified
This shit is getting deep.
And I don't want you to be on the wrong side of it.
I don't want to be on the wrong side of it either.
So why would we need...
I guess, like, I mean, that's...
Oh, no, you're not going to be...
I mean, you're not going to be a part of it regardless.
But I'm just saying, don't get caught in public like supporting Luna.
Because Luna supporters are going...
Luna's going to go down.
And I hope it's by herself.
Is that why...
Like, I mean, I don't...
That's... Is that what the Russians are for?
joe rogan
That's the worst question I've ever heard in my life.
kurt metzger
Keep them on the line.
Just keep them on the line.
unidentified
Right before the primary.
And if the poll says Lou's going to win, she's going to be gone.
She's going to disappear.
Dang. You can't tell anybody I'm going to have someone killed.
joe rogan
Imagine. Hold up, please.
Pause for a second.
How well does this dude know that lady?
And by the way, why is he breathing so quick?
That dude sounds like he's cranked out of his fucking mind.
kurt metzger
You heard him say his Freemason brothers, so that means he is.
joe rogan
He's cranked out of his mind.
kurt metzger
That means he parties.
joe rogan
That guy's partying right now.
This is cocaine talk.
kurt metzger
This isn't real.
joe rogan
This is cocaine talk, right?
kurt metzger
Not just that.
It is that, but also, he got arrested and prosecuted.
joe rogan
Well, you can't have cocaine talk on the fucking phone.
kurt metzger
He ran away to the Philippines, and that's a pretty dark connection, too.
joe rogan
Hold on.
Keep going.
I want to hear more of what he says.
But it sounds like cocaine talk.
kurt metzger
Yeah, they all get coked up.
joe rogan
Yeah. And you say wild shit.
unidentified
Sacrifice the what?
The few.
For the better of the good of the majority of the people, we've got to sacrifice the few.
kurt metzger
Dude, do you hear that?
joe rogan
He's out of his mind.
kurt metzger
No, no, no.
Wait, pause that.
joe rogan
Yeah, we gotta sacrifice a few.
kurt metzger
You're 100% right about that.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, he believes that, though.
kurt metzger
His Freemason brothers are bringing money from Malta and Gibraltar.
joe rogan
Can we pause one second?
Who is he saying this to?
What is the woman's name?
kurt metzger
Aaron something.
joe rogan
Can you get a photo of this lady?
I bet she's hot.
jamie vernon
I can't.
joe rogan
Which is part of the problem.
jamie vernon
I can either play this and show you guys the screen or I can do, like, you know.
kurt metzger
Oh, play, play.
Just finish it.
joe rogan
Let's just get a photo real quick so I can get a context.
I just want to put it in context.
Because I'm trying to figure out why this guy is blabbing to this lady that he doesn't know really well.
I would think if you're going to have someone killed, you wouldn't tell, like, regular friends.
You wouldn't tell, like, casual friends.
Like, how well does this guy know this lady?
kurt metzger
Does cocaine make you do?
Cocaine makes you confide in people.
joe rogan
Is he trying to impress her?
Yes. Yes, it does.
It does.
Is he trying to impress her, and is she attractive?
kurt metzger
Yes, that's a good question.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
Because, like, there's guys that'll just make up stories about, there we go.
kurt metzger
Yeah, he liked it.
joe rogan
She's pretty.
There we go.
Exactly. Okay.
So it's cocaine talk to a pretty lady trying to impress her with your power.
kurt metzger
That's good enough for the CIA to spy and get that talk and use it as intel, by the way, generally, isn't it?
joe rogan
So here's the other question.
How does this...
Yeah, he's a dork!
He's a coked-up dork, and she's hot, and this is the first time a hot lady has talked to this coked-up dork.
Allegedly. He may not have been on cocaine.
He might just have been nervous.
Maybe he's just really attracted to this lady.
And it's adrenaline.
Or maybe you drank a lot of coffee.
kurt metzger
It just sounds like...
joe rogan
It sounds like Coke Doc.
kurt metzger
Well, because all the spill...
You know, you probably shouldn't talk about your Freemason brothers and their...
A Russian-Ukrainian hit squad.
Wow, that's cool of them to get past their differences.
joe rogan
Yeah, they coordinated.
They coordinated just for this one special project.
Because Captain Cocaine has got to put a hit out on some lady.
kurt metzger
But he is connected to something, I think.
He wouldn't have run to the Philippines where these kind of people run to.
joe rogan
So is he running from the law right now?
kurt metzger
No, he's going back to court.
They probably have to go to jail.
We can't get you out of this, idiot.
You got coked up and talked to a whore.
You know how Ghislaine's got to do her time and keep her trap shut?
This guy's going to have to do that too.
But William Braddock, I'm like, okay, who is he?
He must be from a family from there?
I couldn't find anything, but maybe I just sucked at it.
But where's his bio?
Who is he?
Who's his dad?
joe rogan
Imagine you're just talking shit and you think you're a badass.
You're going to say cool shit to this girl on the phone and you find out you're being recorded while you're on cocaine and you had planned a hit.
He might have woke up in the morning with a splitting headache.
Doesn't even remember being on the phone saying he was planning a hit.
Wakes up, he's paranoid.
jamie vernon
She's a nurse?
joe rogan
A nurse?
jamie vernon
She's involved in the COVID stuff?
kurt metzger
I can't find out who she is.
jamie vernon
She's talking to them?
kurt metzger
They call her conservative activists.
No, she was talking about some real shit.
She was good to think she was talking about with that.
joe rogan
What was it?
kurt metzger
I can't remember.
jamie vernon
She was reporting from the hospitals, I guess.
kurt metzger
Yes! In Florida.
She did good work on that, yes.
joe rogan
There's so many of these James O'Keefe type videos now.
kurt metzger
I love it.
joe rogan
And it's all the same thing.
It's all really chatty gay guys who spill the beans when they're on a date.
kurt metzger
On paper, they look like they're going to be good employees, don't they?
joe rogan
And occasionally a man who's saying stupid shit to a woman who's undercover.
kurt metzger
Well, sometimes it'll be a guy that I thought was that, but no, he was a straight guy.
The straight guys and gay guys in those circles are imperceptible.
Like, oh, Harry Sisson came out as straight recently.
That kid with the rosy cheeks that Tim Dillon had on?
joe rogan
Yes. Tim Dillon had him on his show?
kurt metzger
Exposed him as shills.
They came out and said they're being paid.
And they're like, no, cut that, cut that.
Do you remember that?
It was really funny.
joe rogan
No, let me say that.
I didn't watch that.
kurt metzger
Yeah, Tim Dillon exposed...
I remember seeing it.
Fine work by Tim Dillon.
But anyway, I thought the kid with him was his boyfriend.
No! He's been pressuring girls for Snapchat nudes.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
kurt metzger
Yes, it turns out this kid rules.
joe rogan
So Tim Dillon had him on.
What are they talking about?
jamie vernon
All sorts of stuff.
kurt metzger
Oh, where's the part where he exposed?
You see his head in his hands?
You just hit on it.
Yeah, it's right around there.
unidentified
And a level.
It's disgusting.
tim dillon
Well, there's a lot of people that would say that the American government, for a very, very long time, has been very dishonest with its citizens.
kurt metzger
This is something that...
unidentified
Can you give me an example?
kurt metzger
You little twit.
joe rogan
That was stupid.
unidentified
I'm going to stop.
kurt metzger
Oh, is that not it?
unidentified
Well, of course, it happens.
kurt metzger
But what I'm...
Is there a clip of just him exposing them?
unidentified
Like 45 seconds to record a video keeping people's attention.
And a lot of the people on our side, if they start hearing, I've actually done it before.
I've criticized Democrats, specifically Hakeem Jeffries, and it all just went south.
I started losing followers.
It's bad, right?
And I really want to be that person that reaches the other side,'cause Democrats, I mean, they're horrible at their jobs, right?
Forget Harry.
kurt metzger
That's a good...
Can we clip that quote?
joe rogan
Please don't.
unidentified
Please don't.
Please don't clip that.
kurt metzger
I thought those were his boyfriends.
joe rogan
No, here's what that is.
That's a young man that really wants to be important.
Yeah. He really wants to be special and really wants to be on the right side of history, and he's young.
No, not right side of history.
And he really needs to go to the gym, and he should start eating meat again, and he should start doing squats, and you need to do deadlifts, and you should probably run up hills.
You need to do something to turn you into a man, son.
kurt metzger
His whole getting pussy is based on not doing that.
So when guys look like they're gay...
joe rogan
I'm telling you, this is a bad strategy.
kurt metzger
Oh, I agree with you.
I agree.
You don't have to convince me.
Just first of all, never mind getting pussy.
Just do that for your life.
joe rogan
He's just a young kid.
If I was him, I'd be saying the same shit.
You're young.
You say dumb shit.
kurt metzger
Well, what's David Frum's excuse?
joe rogan
But that statement right there was the perfect example.
To say how bad they are, but I'll always vote for them.
That's so bonkers.
kurt metzger
Dude, people in their 60s say that.
joe rogan
But that's because he's a kid.
kurt metzger
But old people, the view says the same thing!
joe rogan
Right, but there's a certain percentage of people that are gonna buy meme coins, you know what I'm saying?
There's a certain percentage of people that are just, they're not, you know, they're not gonna make it.
kurt metzger
He said it just now.
Yeah. If your money depends on you...
Being that way, you're going to be that way.
So that's a business.
joe rogan
It does become eventually that, but he's so young.
It's not like he calculated his personality based on making money politically online.
kurt metzger
That's exactly what he just said to Tim.
He goes, yeah, I've tried.
I mean, they suck, but my audience gets mad, so I can't.
joe rogan
Right. But a lot of it is like, when you're fucking, what is he, 21 or something like that?
When you're 21, it's like total audience capture.
kurt metzger
Money and clout.
joe rogan
Yes. And you've got success doing this one thing, and now that's your whole identity.
kurt metzger
When is it not, like, if you go independent, see, like, because I've heard people, you know, throw around audience capture, like, I'm sure you've heard that nonsense at you.
They definitely say it at Jimmy, but I can tell you, now Jimmy's a real hard-headed dude that his audience gets pissed at him all, because now we're criticizing Trump for the...
Ways he's cocking up.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jimmy is not...
There's... Jimmy's not idealistic.
He's not...
He doesn't have an ideology, rather.
He's very...
kurt metzger
He has principles.
joe rogan
Very open-minded.
kurt metzger
Yeah, so these people's principles are...
joe rogan
Very fair.
Very fair.
kurt metzger
He's the only guy I know who's a leftist, okay?
And I think you should get to identify what you are.
Yeah. Like your gender, you should get to say what you are.
Yeah. But the video with Kyle Rittenhouse came out where my...
Shane Gillis apologized like a man, though.
But a lot of my friends, oh no, he's going away.
He crossed state lines.
What does that mean?
Right. With a gun, but you don't say the part, but your brain finishes it, right?
Right. But watch the video.
You can watch the video and see exactly what happened.
Every part of the night of every character in the story.
There's no mystery as to who was at fault and whatever.
Right. So all you gotta do is look at that.
That shouldn't even have been a case.
Right. People, I told you my ex, she's just a blue no matter who dipshit.
She goes, I don't need to see the footage.
joe rogan
Oh, that's crazy.
kurt metzger
I go, what am I, Galileo?
Looking at a telescope, bitch?
joe rogan
The story that's even more fucked up is the people that he was protecting were, I believe, Indian immigrants.
Indian immigrants were his friends.
kurt metzger
Yes, white kids had burned down Indian immigrants' property because they were mad about a black man being shot by a cop.
joe rogan
So they asked him to help them.
kurt metzger
Jacob Blake was kidnapping two kids and going for a knife in his car, probably trying to get shot.
He had just had a fight with that chick he had a training order with.
And if you've ever been in a bad relationship, you know how Ragnarok it can get.
joe rogan
Right? Ragnarok!
kurt metzger
And people do death by cop all the time.
Yes, they do.
And then the governor, I found out when I played Kenosha, that governor, whatever, went and he kicked off the riot by saying, oh, we think the cop shot him.
He just said something really irresponsible that they would take you off the air for saying if it caused this.
Right? Right.
But that was the agenda to make that.
We all know BLM was a scam, right?
And all the money went to a fat bitch?
We all know that, right?
I don't have to educate anybody?
All the things you think are real are not real.
joe rogan
There was an article about her losing one of her houses in the fire.
I was like, one of them?
How many did you get?
She got three.
kurt metzger
Did you even give Hamas any of the money you promised?
joe rogan
Did you see when they used that AI program to run this net of all the different NGOs that were contributing to democratic causes?
kurt metzger
You showed me last time.
My rabbi, Richard Grove, who sent me Tragedy and Hope, a book that gives you the skeleton of what the conspiracy is.
It's written by Carol Quigley.
Somebody on the show I know has brought it up.
John Corbett brought it up on Jimmy's show.
Bill Clinton's mentor wrote it.
He was not against...
joe rogan
What's it called again?
kurt metzger
Tragedy and Hope, and it's about the Anglo-American world power and how World War I, England brought us back into the fold, they called it.
Cecil Rhodes, the guy who came up with Apartheid.
And De Beers, you've always heard De Beers was like...
Diamonds. Well, he bought their name.
It was him.
It was him.
It was Cecil Rhodes.
Yeah. Cecil Rhodes.
Yeah, Cecil Rhodes.
joe rogan
Same guy who started Apartheid also started De Beers?
kurt metzger
No, no.
He took it over but used the name.
De Beers.
joe rogan
Oh, so he bought it?
kurt metzger
And then at Oxford, somebody gave a speech about how England should, you know, do the things we do now, neoliberal bullshit all over the world, and so he was so inspired that, so he said, so the first concentration camp, there's pictures in the book, looks just like concentration camps from Germany,
the Boer War.
If you ever see the Kingsman, the prequel of Kingsman?
Right. One of the prequels or something?
They show it in the beginning.
There's black and white people in there, so that's nice.
It's diverse.
That was England that did that.
And that's Cecil Rhodes.
And Cecil Rhodes created the Cecil Rhodes Round Tables.
And he based it on the Jesuits, the Bavarian Illuminati, the Freemasons.
His idea was circles within circles.
Like that map of Atlantis, right?
And so we have the outer...
Like that dickhead who was saying Freemason shit, they should have never let him into wherever they let him into.
joe rogan
He's got a big mouth.
kurt metzger
He's like any other gangster.
They want to brag about their connections.
joe rogan
They want to show up in that Cadillac.
kurt metzger
And I don't condemn.
Please snitch.
Please, everyone snitch.
Please. I'm here for you.
I want to hear the stories.
This shit don't stop until you snitch.
It's not going to stop until you tell on your group and stop covering up for them.
If it's your country, don't cover up for your country.
I know people would do that.
I know you accused me of being secretly religious.
joe rogan
I was kidding.
kurt metzger
Well, I'm openly this.
Jehovah's Witnesses, you know, now they told me God was going to kill all of you like 20 years ago, so it's awkward now for me, obviously.
joe rogan
People don't know you grew up Jehovah's Witness.
kurt metzger
Yeah, I mean, I bring it up every time.
joe rogan
Well, people who don't know you.
kurt metzger
I know.
joe rogan
I mean, this is standalone.
kurt metzger
I assume you have all the back knowledge on me with the viewer at home, and I don't think of the audience.
joe rogan
A lot of people don't.
You were a long time ago.
You were getting real upset about a lot of this woke shit.
And I remember you saying this.
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
I've fucking seen this before.
This is the same shit I saw in the Jehovah's Witness.
This is the same shit before.
And I remember being like one of the first times I was like genuinely alarmed about how really crazy ideas can spread.
And really just outrageous behavior can become normalized.
kurt metzger
The second part of that is, it's reminding me of that, but without the love and forgiveness of if you believed in Jesus.
So they took the only good thing out of it and kept the dogma, but it's like, if you have a problem, let's say something's not living up to what it should, and you said this was the solution to everything.
But let's say...
There's something really bad you know about.
Like someone got molested and you don't go to the cops, you handle it in-house, which is what they did and got sued for.
The highest settlement in American history, not the Catholics, Jehovah Witnesses, because they did what everybody does.
They Epstein file, hide the files, handle it in-house, this could look bad.
If you saw what I saw, you wouldn't release it either.
All that bullshit.
So don't tell me you're the one organization from God and you did that.
And people ought to be kicked out for that.
Because all the Bible stories I got taught, God would strike you with leprosy for that shit, you know?
And I'm the kind of chump that believes in the thing if I believe in it.
So I'm a kind of poison for your group.
Because when you don't live up to it, I'm going to be a real twat about it, you know?
joe rogan
But that's important.
kurt metzger
Well, no, it's actually crazy.
And is that the hill you want to die on?
Here, let me use all the corpo fucking...
I've heard this from people I like, not bad people.
Something's wrong.
And you point it out, and they go, is that the hill you want to die on?
And I'm like, am I going to be killed for telling the truth?
Why would I be?
joe rogan
That's that team shit.
That's that team shit.
Our team is going to cover this up.
Our team's not going to pay attention to that.
kurt metzger
That's what it is.
It's not like jujitsu in stand-up, where it's one man, one man.
joe rogan
The whole thing is a dumb pursuit of being on the right side, when we should all be on one fucking side.
It should be one giant group of people figuring out, What makes the most sense?
It's not supposed to be us versus them.
kurt metzger
Well, that's too vague, though.
joe rogan
It's not too vague.
If it's not too vague for you and I, it's not too vague for the whole country.
We just have to change the way we talk about it.
kurt metzger
What if what makes the most sense to me is eugenics?
What if that makes the most sense?
Because I'm telling you right now, these people have never given up on eugenics.
And I'm very happy that technology is going to fix dwarfism one day, okay?
And you won't have to do what Hitler did to the dwarfs.
joe rogan
We're all going to look like Chris Hemsworth.
kurt metzger
Oh, my God.
Can you imagine being a Jewish dwarf?
joe rogan
It's going to be just Chris Hemsworth and Jason Momoa all throughout the land.
There'll be no other body type.
kurt metzger
The Nordic Space Brothers that people see.
You think they're Nordic?
joe rogan
The tall whites?
kurt metzger
No, the tall whites are a different thing.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
kurt metzger
They're tall.
They're white.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
How many are there?
kurt metzger
Oh yeah, there's a lot.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, the tall whites and the Nordics are different?
kurt metzger
People mistake them, but they are different.
Now, I'll tell you lore.
I don't know what's real, but Charles Hall's tall whites are not the same.
He called them the Nordics, he called them the Norwegians with 23 teeth.
joe rogan
What? 23 teeth?
How many do we have?
32. Oh, so they have less teeth?
kurt metzger
I guess.
joe rogan
Probably from eating mushy food all those years.
Their jaw shrunk.
kurt metzger
But calling them Nordic is...
Assuming that this isn't complete bullshit, which, let's face it, probably is, but let's say it's not bullshit.
I don't think they are Nordic.
I think they're fucking German, and I think they're doing a little...
If they are real, this all-white, blonde society...
That dude, I always call him Jazz Jabroni, but his name's Jason Georgiani.
He said something really interesting about...
What are these stories of...
This is like a fifth-dimensional race screwing around.
Their architecture is like pyramids and brutalism.
They're always wearing the same outfits.
They haven't evolved from anything, right?
joe rogan
Right. Why are they in uniform?
kurt metzger
And you've heard this before about the time travel aspect, right?
Because if you did have those kind of things, which I don't know if they have or not, that is automatic.
He's right about 100%.
That's time dilation.
That means you have a time machine.
So let's say, here's a silly story, that the German acorn, that bell thing, the Glocka that nobody knew about until the 70s.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
kurt metzger
They found that German bell-shaped...
Where they had, like, mercury plasma rotation to try to make it levitate.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
What was that?
Deglocka. Pull that up, Jamie, so I can refresh my mind.
Deglocka. So what do you mean?
You think that these tall whites were actually Germans?
kurt metzger
The Nordics.
unidentified
The Nordics.
joe rogan
They were actually Germans?
kurt metzger
Yeah, let's say.
joe rogan
Do you think they were actually Nazi scientists or something?
kurt metzger
No. Remember those camps where they bred people to make...
What? You don't remember the Nazis had camps of blonde chicks to breed Aryans to encourage it?
joe rogan
I missed that chapter.
Really? Let me check this out.
kurt metzger
That's like the sexiest part of the...
joe rogan
That's real?
This Nazi bell?
Yes. Have we covered this before?
kurt metzger
No, it is real, but it doesn't mean it necessarily was a working UFO.
I'm just saying this is stuff people know about already.
joe rogan
I vaguely remember talking about this.
kurt metzger
But let's say they mastered something akin to that, okay?
Okay, just vaguely.
And then you send them to planet Aldebaran or whatever they call it, which is how many millions of light years away.
If you could go to that planet at Fast and Light, then you have now gone into the past, right?
Because these are relative positions.
So now, you're 50 million years ahead of us, even though you came out of us.
And if you want to come back, right, the way this would work is you could fly back to Mars or the Earth 50 million years because the distances we're talking about.
There has to be time travel involved.
And then, let's say you had that kind of control.
Hey, why don't I put my DNA in stuff and make it in my own image, remake?
All of it.
And then you cock it up, and then you do the cycle over and over again.
Jason Jabroni didn't make that up.
That's where I go.
This sounds like Samsara.
Some rich assholes make a breakaway civilization, try to remake the world their image.
It cocks up like an Atlantis myth of some kind.
And the record plays, keeps playing.
joe rogan
Maybe intelligent beings just consistently fuck up because they keep pushing the boundaries of their abilities and their intelligence, no matter how smart they are.
And even...
We do stupid shit in other countries.
We fuck around with installing new leaders.
unidentified
Act like God.
kurt metzger
Pretend you're God.
joe rogan
But just think of what we do in other countries.
Now, imagine you're taking it to so many levels of intelligence and ability far beyond what we have, and you come here, you would cock up these monkeys.
Yes. You would definitely do it.
You would think you were in the right to do it.
kurt metzger
And then you'd blame the monkeys.
You'd blame them.
You'd go, oh, it's because you were bad.
joe rogan
Well, we would just say, look, the odds of them making it to an intergalactic system.
Within the next five to ten million years is very low, you know, and here's here's what if that theory is correct look Chimpanzees are still around they are our distant cousins and they didn't fucking change right exactly the same and then there was a whole ton of different versions of us They didn't fucking make it either the whole it's it seems like we know what evolution is see there's other things over witnesses We had a book called how did life get here by evolution by creation?
kurt metzger
Okay, which was That's a false...
That's not what evolution is, okay?
I didn't know that until later.
I'm not saying whether anything's true, and I'm just telling you I was told the wrong thing.
It doesn't...
Evolution isn't about if there's a god who created it or not.
Evolution is change over time.
It's the origin of species, not of all life in the universe, just of speciation.
joe rogan
Well, you know, Brett Weinstein, have you ever heard him talk about it on this podcast?
Not that.
He has a fascinating theory.
He's like, because he was talking about how, I shouldn't say it's a theory and I shouldn't even say it's his.
It's just like there's an understanding of what evolution is, that there's a missing element.
And there's some sort of missing force that we haven't recognized yet.
And that would account for why some changes are so rapid.
Because you have two things, right?
You have natural selection and then you have random mutation, right?
This is what's supposed to create all the...
He thinks there's an additional force they haven't recognized yet.
kurt metzger
Of course!
joe rogan
Yeah. And the thing about us is whatever additional force that was, was so much more impactful.
Bizarrely so.
Where we can do...
There's not even an animal that's remotely close to us.
kurt metzger
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
There's no animals that are making bows and arrows yet, right?
It's just us and everything else is way behind.
Whereas every other kind of organization or organism, rather, on Earth is in like a tight-knit...
We struggle with all the things around it to balance out the population, except for us.
We seem unnatural.
We do.
We seem like we popped up too quick, like we're adolescent, and we're just wild, and we haven't figured out what the fuck we are yet.
We don't fall into nature the way all the other animals do.
We change nature around us, create our own environment, which is a completely alien thing on the scale of what we do.
Or every other organism on Earth can't do that.
kurt metzger
But there's invasive species, though.
joe rogan
That's what we might be.
But if you did cock up a whole planet with your DNA and stick it into some ancient human, some Australopithecus or something, and create a person, this is probably how it would turn out.
kurt metzger
Well, think of that story of...
Because, you know, all the algorithm of, is it a UFO or God's bastard, angels, sons, Nephilim?
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of people that believe that, right?
Like, these are aliens and demons.
kurt metzger
I go by themes.
Right, right.
So, you know, it's like when Twilight came out as a teen romance, you're like, yo, that guy's like 300, and that chick's only 17. I know, it's so creepy.
What the fuck is this shit?
joe rogan
The ultimate pedophile movie.
kurt metzger
So, Nephilim, or Nephilim, I don't know how you say it, but the...
For an angel in that story, I'm just saying within the lore of the story, I'm not saying anything's true or not.
Think of how perverse that is.
It's a cross between pedophilia and bestiality, basically, that they committed.
joe rogan
Right, because they're thousands of years old, and they're from another planet, and they bred with the humans.
kurt metzger
So the crime of that, it's so degenerate.
joe rogan
Don't you think that's an allegory?
kurt metzger
No, I'm saying the themes scale up and down.
So that's why Matt, if you talk, like, Duncan I always talk to about this kind of stuff because he knows all these, like, creepy-ass magic people.
And he's, like, really, like, a nice person.
joe rogan
He's just interested in a lot of things, man!
kurt metzger
Well, listen.
I'm interested in a lot of things, and I'll watch some of these people, okay?
Because I want to know things, and I'm real quickly aware of if you're telling me anything interesting, or if you're just doing some aesthetic presentation, because you like the rock and roll aspect, which, by the way, is the biggest piece of shit aspect of the whole thing.
joe rogan
Rock and roll Satanism?
Is that what you're saying?
kurt metzger
Just like America, the thing where people are like, oh, everybody hates pedophiles, right?
I mean, there's pedophile hunters, amateur.
All the music, it wasn't just R. Kelly, all the music that you like, those guys, if any of the stuff they did happened now and they knew about it, like, it's crazy.
Like, Bowie was banging a 13-year-old that later Iggy Pop passed around Iggy Pop.
Like, that's just normal shit they did.
You know that, right?
No. Dude, it's all in their own books.
Don't you remember you write confessional books when it was cool to say the crimes you've done in life?
And it became not cool.
joe rogan
I never read any of those books.
kurt metzger
Well, I didn't either.
joe rogan
Did you ever read it?
Jamie didn't know it either.
Did you just crack open your second White Claw?
kurt metzger
No, there's a Three Claw podcast.
Those books, and I'm going to start reading.
I haven't started yet.
joe rogan
We started with vampires.
kurt metzger
Well, the perversion of that.
So there's this theme in everything.
Science fiction.
Where somebody did something and for some reason it's my fault for being born.
And then the thing, how you're describing all these adolescent kind of species that...
Okay. I'm so sick of the blame being...
If they had to train people with kindergarten because not enough people wanted to pull the trigger in war, that's a fact.
That's how we got our school system was a Prussian emperor going, they're wasting bullets because they don't want to kill people.
We got to get them younger so we have killers for the army and workers and good school people.
joe rogan
Well, they were getting people too late, right?
kurt metzger
So that means our natural thing is not really...
See, they always put it like...
Your scumbag leaders start blowing people up.
It's like, when are we going to learn?
Asshole! Everybody that voted for Trump wanted him to not be doing what he's doing now.
One thing that's good is all MAGA people are calling it out, and good for them.
People don't want this shit anymore.
joe rogan
You're talking about the bombings in Yemen?
kurt metzger
Yeah, and then you've got to hear how humans are an immature species.
No, somebody is on purpose.
Probably our leaders.
Probably wealthy eugenicists.
If you want to get spacey, probably trans-dimensional trillionaires who transitioned out of having a soul and now cannot transition back.
So everything's a scam to trick you.
Hey, why don't you astral project out of your body?
Get out of your body for a little bit.
Like, get you out of your car so I can take it?
I look at all these things like Coffezilla scams.
So the alien shit where they made a deal with the aliens.
That's like a Nigerian prince scam.
You know?
Like, Ukraine is a Nigerian prince scam to me.
An old man.
Got a letter.
Please, my friend in Christ, I am the rightful ruler of Ukraine.
He just gives all your money.
Grandpa, I don't give Ukraine all the money.
I gotta help the rightful president of Ukraine.
You could scale that up to every story, and it's always the same thing.
Some trickery.
Like a crypto scam.
And then the aliens aren't what they said at first.
They're doing bad stuff.
These are just themes.
Didn't you have Diana Posoka on here?
Yes. I don't know if she said this term on here or I saw on another thing, but she called them myth themes.
Almost like I interpret it as like Legos that you build the stories.
So many stories.
The Bible training was good for me because most of our stories are like just variations on Bible stories.
But at the end of the day, it's all programming.
And I'm not saying that because it's bad.
I'm saying human nature is programmability.
And all these stories that you have, and depending on like if you're Eastern, Dracula, Catholic, Orthodox, they're really big on the symbol programming.
joe rogan
But isn't that the most fascinating aspect of us?
Yes. Is the programmability.
kurt metzger
Who gave these corrupt priest class the codes to work us?
Because the pharaohs, for example, in Egypt, if you look at their society, there's a guy named Mark Windows.
He did a thing about this Wallace Budge book called Egyptian Black Magic from 1910.
Wallace Budge apparently is like the real Indiana Jones.
Like some guy, adventurer, archaeologist.
So he wrote all about it.
So I haven't read the book.
Malice has a copy of it.
But this guy, it might be his interpretation, Mark Windows, or it might be in the book.
But it's a society ruled by OCD, you know, because it's magic.
The leaders are like the least powerful ones at the end of the day.
They're like performers.
They go out with their stupid headdress.
They're being inbred by a priest class like dogs or like Dune.
Right? And they go, you've got to prepare.
And they're doing homework for their afterlife.
So in the Book of the Dead, it's like then you get to the riverboat man and you must say how many oars you see and if there's two oars.
It sounds like the three amigos finding El Guapo.
Like, shoot your gun and the singing Bushmen.
It's like bullshit.
And they spend all their day just planning to die.
Okay? Akhenaten, the guy that they hated because they said he was like monotheist.
I don't think he was.
I think he was doging their system because they had so many priests and gods getting so much EA money, I guess, that it was getting ridiculous.
And I bet this guy was like, look, the sun's the main representative of the thing.
Let's just slim down our operation because this is crazy.
And that deep state of Egypt didn't like that.
And that's why, you know what I mean?
Like, I bet you it's some shit like that.
I think of it.
All these things in those terms.
Or the Dalai Lama priests.
joe rogan
But wait a minute.
There's no fucking deep state if you're running an empire.
If you're like the Roman emperor.
kurt metzger
Yes, there was.
joe rogan
What kind of deep state is there?
kurt metzger
They were all in the Mithra cult.
joe rogan
But the thing about the deep state is, like, the idea of it in this country is that leaders come and go, but these people always remain.
kurt metzger
They're not the top leaders.
The shadow government's the top leaders.
joe rogan
In secret societies and in secret intelligence agencies, at the very top, there's people, regardless of who's the president, they're running the show, they're in charge of everything.
But that didn't exist with, like, the ancient Romans.
kurt metzger
Yeah, I think the history...
joe rogan
Do you think that's how it was with ancient Romans?
kurt metzger
100%. Mystery schools.
Do you know what a mystery school is?
Okay. Freemasons are in mysteries.
All of these secret societies.
joe rogan
So there's always some sort of a secret society that constantly influences leaders.
kurt metzger
Here's one.
The Triumvirate.
Remember Caesar and Pompey?
joe rogan
Scroll up a little, Jamie, so I can read the headline.
Ten surprising things about the deep state, starting with the Roman Emperor Caligula.
Wow. Some basic truths that never go away.
A former dean at the University of Maryland School of Public Policy explains.
So they had a deep state?
kurt metzger
It's the oldest thing there is.
joe rogan
Same sort of thing.
kurt metzger
It's priests versus kings.
Fascists versus perverts.
joe rogan
Wow. The Roman emperor surrounded himself with a hand-picked Praetorian guard to keep him safe.
However, elite members of the guard knifed him in a corridor of what was the White House of its day.
Counting on the fealty of even the closest experts isn't always a good bet.
kurt metzger
Wow. Yeah, you gotta play the game.
Wait, wait, but...
joe rogan
So there was people trying to assassinate everybody back then.
kurt metzger
But it's awesome.
Do you know this?
Julius Caesar and Pompey and the other guy, the triumvirate it was called, where the three of them divided up Rome among themselves?
You've heard of that, right?
joe rogan
Look at this.
Ancient Chinese emperors discovered they couldn't rule effectively without nonpartisan experts.
Long before Caligula met his end, the emperors established a civil service filled with the experts who had passed an incredibly rigorous exam.
Researchers have called it the examination system from hell, which included, among other things, memorizing 400,000 characters of a Confucian text.
Cheating on the exam was discouraged.
Anyone caught looking on the paper of the person.
kurt metzger
That's discouraging.
joe rogan
Well, that sounds like the right way to do it.
That's a great idea.
Like, make sure that anybody who's going to do that has to go through a crazy rigorous exam.
Like, why don't they have that?
When you see people that are like Congress people, they're like, how did that fucking kook get in office?
kurt metzger
His family's involved and they're connected and it's giving a favor job.
joe rogan
How about that lady that dresses like a character in a Muppets movie?
Who? You know that one lady with the blue hair and the crazy glasses?
She doesn't even look like a real person.
kurt metzger
Not the purple hair witch lady.
joe rogan
Yeah, the witch lady.
kurt metzger
Oh, yeah.
Where's she from?
Connecticut or something?
joe rogan
I don't know.
But that kind of person.
kurt metzger
If you're that old dressing like that, she looks like a mom whose son gets molested by Michael Jackson, and she didn't know.
That's what she looks like.
joe rogan
There's no way she's passing that rigorous exam.
Like, a rigorous exam would be a great idea.
kurt metzger
They don't even read the bills they sign.
joe rogan
They don't have to read it.
kurt metzger
Thomas Massey reads them.
Yeah. Dude, Trump going after him is one of the worst...
Oh, wait, hold on.
I'm going to forget.
joe rogan
Wasn't there a thing that was...
There's been multiple versions of bills that got passed where it's not physically possible to read the entire bill within the amount of time they were given.
kurt metzger
Oh, that's not grounds to not believe in the entire government, just that alone.
joe rogan
But isn't that true?
Aren't some of them...
kurt metzger
They do it all the time.
joe rogan
Let's find out.
What is the longest bill that's ever been passed?
How many pages?
Let's just imagine and let's find try to find out what the now imagine also these people are Congress people so they have very rigorous schedules You know they're fucking busy as shit all day long fundraising and they're supposed and they're doing a lot of that too And then they have to read how many pages well then they got a trip to Israel with their APAC coach 5,593
pages Yeah, that was...
Now, here's the thing about the COVID relief stuff.
Was that loans?
Like, how does that work?
kurt metzger
It was the biggest upward transfer of wealth in the history of humanity.
joe rogan
It was.
kurt metzger
They should have never signed it.
Massey was against it.
joe rogan
You could see, like, the amount of money people lost and the amount of money people gained.
And it's the exact same amount of money.
kurt metzger
You know what's the great thing about America?
joe rogan
It's like $3.6 trillion, $3.9 trillion.
kurt metzger
This is what I like about America, probably the most.
Because, you know, in Australia, they punked out to lock down fascist shit.
Because you know why?
The government paid their bills.
joe rogan
Also, they don't make guns.
kurt metzger
And they gave up their guns a long time ago like suckers.
But here, because they don't even want you to have Social Security that you paid into, they're doing everything to get rid of that.
Medicare for all, that's not for you.
That's for other countries that we give your money to.
joe rogan
Did you see what Elon discovered about Social Security?
What? See if you can find it, Jamie, about the number of illegal aliens who are receiving Social Security.
kurt metzger
We'll kick them off.
joe rogan
But there's like a scam to it all.
This is part of the incentivization.
This is how you incentivize people to vote for your party.
If you can allow these people to vote, and this is part of the scam.
If you've got them in the Social Security system, they're getting Medicaid, they're getting food stamps, whatever they're getting.
As soon as you can label them, they were talking about...
This one doctor, we had a video that we played where she was explaining how she was being encouraged to ask questions like, do you have a backache?
Do you have headaches?
Okay, you can have permanent disability.
kurt metzger
You might need to transition.
unidentified
That's what they do!
kurt metzger
Do your head hurt?
You're trans.
joe rogan
Do they try to transition immigrants?
I heard that was true, but then I said that's too ridiculous.
kurt metzger
You don't have to try.
Everybody wants it.
It's safe, effective.
It's as great as a COVID booster.
joe rogan
Do it today.
unidentified
Really? They can make you a dong out of your leg.
joe rogan
They take a big chunk of meat out of your leg and make you a new dong.
kurt metzger
Somebody already did that.
joe rogan
What were we just Googling, Jamie?
kurt metzger
Yeah. Well, yeah, nobody wants fraud, okay?
But what they don't want is that the government...
Look, maybe it's a terrible idea the government does anything.
I'm sure it's better to have a corporation the size of a government do it with no constitution and I have no rights to it.
That's a good idea.
And I have an automated response, like an AI telling me if my insurance comes through or not.
I'm sure that's better.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's better.
kurt metzger
Luigi Mangione didn't feel like that, they say.
joe rogan
I can't find it.
Yeah, the Free Luigi thing was really crazy.
kurt metzger
Because America treats its own kids like garbage, that's the saving grace.
So the next lockdown or bullshit, they've already lost the truth.
During lockdowns, there ain't nothing to do but look into shit, is how I looked at it.
You know?
And I know a lot of ex-cons that know a lot more current events than me because they were locked down and just got informed.
joe rogan
That is when you got deep.
But also, you started working with Jimmy Dore.
As soon as you started working with Jimmy Dore, you immediately...
kurt metzger
Well, first Barry, but he told me Jimmy was a good dude.
I didn't...
joe rogan
Barry Kremens.
kurt metzger
Yeah. And Barry, the things he used to tell me about...
You know, by the way, sanctuary cities.
That's a Republican thing.
You know that, right?
I think that's Reagan.
The concept of a sanctuary city was Reagan.
Because as the great Bernie Sanders sometimes then not said, that is a Koch brothers proposition, open borders, right?
But then the Democrats suddenly hate open borders after they were all like, no, we've got to have borders.
And then the people that they wind up with their programming are still running around driving their fat scooters into Teslas like it matters.
joe rogan
But those are the same people that I was talking about earlier.
Those Tesla protesters.
They're the same people that join cults.
They're the same people that...
kurt metzger
That don't know Democrats, mostly own Teslas?
joe rogan
They're the same people that are getting paid to go to the rallies.
There's a certain underclass of really fucking dumb people out there that you can exploit.
You can get them to do a lot of shit, man.
kurt metzger
I would say the government employees are that.
joe rogan
But if you're hiring them all the time for protests, they're essentially government employees that are just...
Designed to perform propaganda.
If you're using government money, and you're paying people to go to a rally, and you're giving them signs, and you're making them cheer, and you're giving them money and food...
jamie vernon
This is an article on the Daily Mail, but they're discussing what he said at the Wisconsin rally this week, I think, about Social Security and illegal aliens.
joe rogan
Okay, it says, lawfully present non-citizens of the United States who meet all eligibility requirements can qualify for Social Security benefits.
The SSA website states, this rule also applies to non-citizens authorized to work in the United States who got a Social Security number after December of 2003.
kurt metzger
Well, did they pay into it or no?
joe rogan
I don't think, I don't know what, let me finish this.
Explanation and other portions of the Wisconsin event quickly went viral on Musk's social media app, X, as users cheered the fraud-finding effort.
It's absolutely infuriating.
One user wrote in response.
I hate when they do that, like, post people's tweets.
One user said, like, stop.
You're forming a narrative.
There's a lot of users.
Biden and team were bringing in millions of immigrants and putting them on benefits, another user wrote, reacting to the SSA numbers.
I know Elon keeps saying it was for votes, but that can't be the only reason.
kurt metzger
They're correct.
Our military, people joining the military, is all-time low.
I say that Dick Durbin talking about we need new cops who don't want the money that old cops got.
We need new workers like at Purdue where they fired citizens from a government program to bring in asylum seekers and pay them less.
It's always about lowering your pay.
Every single goddamn thing is we got to be competitive.
joe rogan
It says...
People sometimes, this is Musk saying, people sometimes think that under the Biden administration, he was simply asleep with the switch.
They weren't asleep at the switch.
It was a massive, large-scale program to import as many illegals as possible, ultimately to change the entire voting map of the United States and disenfranchise the American people and make it a permanent, deep blue, one-party state from which there would be no escape, the 53-year-old entrepreneur shared.
Another user reacted on X. He's right, but it's not just that.
kurt metzger
It's not just that.
jamie vernon
Okay. To add this, there's another article I was going to bring up.
They said that these claims are being claimed, but then they've asked for evidence, and they haven't received...
joe rogan
Which claims, exactly?
jamie vernon
Entitlements fraud here, specifically.
He brought it up on this podcast.
joe rogan
Right. It says in an interview with us, okay, single biggest thing they're worried about is Doge going to turn off fraudulent payments of entitlements.
It says,"This lacks evidence.
Unauthorized immigrants are not eligible for most safety net benefits, and there's no evidence to suggest they're committing fraud en masse to obtain them." But hold on, it's not fraud.
If you ask people if they have headaches, and then you give them permanent Social Security, or you ask them if they have bad backs, who the fuck that's 40 doesn't have a bad back?
All you have to do is say your back hurts, and bam.
If they were really encouraging people to do that and they really are giving them social security numbers, why are you doing that?
But you're not doing it because you're super nice.
You're not doing it because you're super kind.
kurt metzger
I'll tell you why.
joe rogan
You're doing it because you want them to vote for you.
kurt metzger
So you know MS-13, right?
It's not just voting.
Those gangs?
MS-13 is now gone from El Salvador.
It's in America only.
America is a surveillance state.
How do you not know you have these people?
What I'm worried about here is...
I'm all for taking the unauthorized people off.
Show the evidence, obviously.
But here's the problem.
MS-13, you know those people they just deported?
All them people they rounded up, they're getting, what do you call it, collateral damage that I don't agree with and I think is pretty fucked up.
That gay hairdresser you brought up, we played the clip.
He's not in Trenderagua.
They just had a crown.
joe rogan
Well, he had a crown for his mom and a crown for his dad.
kurt metzger
There's a soccer player who got tortured by the Maduro government, who I thought all the conservatives don't like because he's a commie.
And that guy came here after toe and water for the CIA, basically.
It was how I look at it.
And because he had a soccer ball with a crown, they threw him on the thing.
Never mind the girl, the PhD student, who wrote an op-ed about Gaza and got deported for supporting Hamas.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, what was the op-ed?
Did you read it?
kurt metzger
No, but you can write an op-ed.
It could have been something really bad.
joe rogan
No, but it was criticizing Israel, right, for their actions.
kurt metzger
Oh, that's what she did?
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
That's bad.
kurt metzger
She should be deported.
My bad.
She's a guest.
You don't get to have our rights just because you are here.
joe rogan
But that's a crazy thing to deport someone for.
If you're talking about horrific damage, horrific, you could see it on video.
How could criticizing that, how could you not be allowed to have a perspective?
On something that's clearly horrific.
Like, how could you not be allowed?
kurt metzger
Because it doesn't help our team.
joe rogan
But was what she said, did she support Hamas in that paper?
Or did she just condemn Israel and their attacks?
kurt metzger
I don't remember her ever supporting Hamas in the paper.
I know she said Palestinians.
No, but let's say she goes, hey, Hamas, let's say this was in the paper.
She goes, you know who supported Hamas?
Bibi Malkowski, excuse me, Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel for 20 years.
You know how I gave up on Hamas in 2006?
Yeah. Because I'm like, they're no good.
Well, Bibi thought it was a good strategy to prop them up to fight the West Bank Palestinians so that they could never have a two-party state from that treaty that they agreed to but never intended to keep.
So that's your fault, motherfucker.
This girl supported Hamas?
Not as much as the...
Prime Minister of Israel did, did she?
With millions of your tax dollars that we send to them for their great game theory based strategy.
Somebody goes, do you understand game theory?
joe rogan
Who said that to you?
kurt metzger
A comic I like, Avi.
joe rogan
Don't say his name.
It's such a crazy thing to say.
kurt metzger
I'm not against Israel existing or any of this bullshit that people make up.
unidentified
Of course not.
kurt metzger
And I'm not anti-Semitic.
First of all, I get a lot of anti-Semitism at me.
I remember...
Talking about on stage, somebody, oh, because your nose, somebody said from the audience, like, yeah, that's probably, yeah, probably.
If I wear glasses, it looks like my eyebrows and nose were included with my glasses.
unidentified
You understand?
kurt metzger
So if they round, I get it, if they round up Jews, I'll be just like one of these Venezuelans that's not in a gang, and I'll be sent to spare Guantanamo, which is what El Salvador is.
Again, Venezuelan gangs.
Not going to Venezuela?
Where they're from?
You're sending them to the MS-13 prison that...
You know, I was worried at first hearing about it because I'm like, what if you get the wrong person?
That's my concern.
joe rogan
That's the number one concern.
kurt metzger
But luckily these geniuses have all tattooed MS-13 on their fucking head, so if the gangs ever learn not to do that, we're fucked.
If they learn not to tattoo their dumb shit gang symbol on their face, we won't be able to catch them.
joe rogan
Well, that's the only way you can trust a guy.
You gotta wear the colors.
kurt metzger
And you know what's so funny about the gang shit?
First of all, I believe 100%.
CIA and whoever, in coordination with whatever dumb group, made those gangs in America.
Because the drive-by shootings, the Capone era kind of thing, the blacks were not doing that until after Vietnam.
The guys coming back from Vietnam were bringing tactics, guerrilla tactics to the hood.
You could see it in the documentary.
Yeah, there's a bunch of documentaries about it.
So, people come back from Vietnam if you notice.
joe rogan
But what about like Al Capone and all that type of shit?
kurt metzger
Well, they had Tommy guns and cars, and I don't know.
I don't even know how much they did that.
joe rogan
Didn't they do drive-bys?
kurt metzger
Yes, but I'm talking about black gangs.
Black gangs.
They got flooded with guns.
Chinese guns, a lot of them.
And crack.
And right around the same time, private prisons were coming into really getting to be a thing.
Then gangster...
Why'd the rap suddenly turn from like...
To like, you know, gangsta.
And the guy's doing the rapping.
Ice Cube, he talks about this.
And he's like, well, we're poor kids who don't know anything.
Right? So I understand that.
But then you realize the guy that owns, he said on Bill Maher's fucking thing, the guy that owns the record company also controlling shares of a private prison.
And they're like, give us more of that drug gangster stuff.
Now, the drug stuff is because they were on purpose, obviously, putting crack in the hood.
Like, all those conspiracy theorists hotep guys told us that you're like, well, it doesn't mean you have to do it.
Right? That's the clever response to that.
But they did it on purpose.
That's pretty fucked up.
joe rogan
What do you mean it doesn't mean you have to do it?
unidentified
You mean...
kurt metzger
A comic is having a joke, by the way.
Okay, let's say CIA did put crack in the hood.
Does that mean you have to do it?
joe rogan
Oh, right.
kurt metzger
Which is a real...
Kind of like, you're not from there, you don't know shit what you're talking about.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen Freeway Ricky talk about it?
kurt metzger
Yes, and of course the CIA worked with him.
Some dirtbag Cuban.
Crazy. Yeah, and Rick, now a prison guard uses his name to sell crime to kids.
But Freeway Rick Ross went to prison.
Okay? Yeah.
So, by the way, that cartel, the Mina-Arkansas cartel, run by Bill Clinton, I believe 100%, it's in Kathy O'Brien's book.
Maybe people thought Kathy O'Brien's book was far-fetched when it came out in the 90s, but I would go back and listen to it because it's amazing how much of this stuff correlates to stuff right now.
So they brought all that in the hood on purpose to finance the Contras, who Ben Shapiro will tell you were the good guys, but they were not.
They were scumbags.
Barry Crimmins used to always tell me about this stuff, and I go, who cares about Nicaragua in the 80s, dude?
Reagan's dead.
That's how I thought about it.
Because I'm dumb.
I'm slow, dude.
I'm not smart.
I'm slow.
It took years for it to dawn on me what he was talking about was 100% relevant, and since I've been on Jimmy's show, and the few good reporters that are left in the universe, I'll see their stuff, you know?
Aramonte and Max Blumenthal, by the way, both Jews, not anti-Semitic, do great reporting, and people call them conspiracy theorists, and they like to be respectable, I can tell, because I want to get into wacky shit.
I want to know crazy stuff, and I want to know the boring nerd stuff so I can try to see where they meet.
Right. I'm not trying to be—I'm not respectable at all.
I'm a clown.
So I don't give a shit if you think I'm respectable or not.
joe rogan
No, it's the perfect position to be in, to look at ridiculous ideas.
Because there's so many ridiculous ideas that turn out to actually be true.
kurt metzger
How many jokes have you had?
Because I think I have a lot of jokes that you already had the thing.
About it, so I'm like, oh, I have to drop that.
Because very few people have a similar interest to what I would look at, right?
joe rogan
Oh, you and I?
Yeah. Oh, yeah, all the time.
kurt metzger
And, um...
What do you call it?
Like, um...
I forgot what I was going to say.
I lost it.
joe rogan
But that's the best way to approach it because then you're not afraid to be ridiculous.
Because the problem with talking about UFOs or ghosts or anything is like you can look ridiculous.
Like if you're a guy who's an accountant and you're working on a big deal for a corporation and you're responsible for a lot of numbers, nobody wants to hear you talk about UFO abductions.
That's a retarded thing to talk about.
kurt metzger
That's right.
joe rogan
You make people uncomfortable in the office.
This is silly.
Right. But it's probably not even real.
kurt metzger
Mike Benz talking about it recently on...
What did he say?
That guy's great, man.
joe rogan
Goddamn. He chimed in on that Sean Ryan thing that I sent you to, Jamie.
He chimed in on it on the next page.
It was like a multi-page thing that I sent you, Jamie.
kurt metzger
Just so everybody understands.
joe rogan
Hold on a second.
On the second thing, it was interesting what Mike Benz was saying.
That guy...
I mean, I'm like, how do you sleep, dude?
He's like, not that good.
Like, I don't sleep a lot.
kurt metzger
Well, it's upsetting you to learn stuff, but you know what's the thing that makes you crazy?
joe rogan
They're bribing the Afghan Taliban warlords to keep the drugs flowing.
That's what the U.S. Institute of Peace payments were for.
kurt metzger
That's exactly right, because we have a fentanyl problem, and we had our troops guarding poppy fields for pederast warlords.
You know about all that, dancing boys against Afghanistan, and how...
We would sometimes bring boys to the Northern Alliance.
joe rogan
United States Institute of Peace funded Taliban and Iraqi leaders.
The now-canceled USIP contracts included $132,000 for Mohammed Qasim Halimi, Afghanistan's former chief of protocol and a former Taliban member, and a staggering $1.3 million to the Al-Tadhamon Iraqi League for Youth.
kurt metzger
It's like, everything named that, you just assume it's something bad, dude.
joe rogan
Well, that's how they like to do it, right?
Like, you know, the Patriot Act.
Like, that kind of thing.
Like, you just say, call it USAID.
Say, give it a nice name.
kurt metzger
It's so insulting.
You know, that's what I find hilarious, is like, these people can't believe the same tricks that have always worked don't work forever, you know?
joe rogan
Well, they don't have new tricks.
And it's also with the internet now, when guys like Mike Benz, who spends like five hours a day breaking this shit down online, and then it spreads out, and Whitney Webb, and all these different people, and Jimmy, and you, constantly talking about this stuff.
It's very difficult to hide things anymore.
kurt metzger
Well, once you realize, because just for being on the road and talking to people, or when I see, like, Trump...
Introducing it, my good friend Lindsey Graham, whenever I've come with the left, I talk to Lindsey Graham, and a whole crowd boos.
So that's because MAGA's not the brainwashed ones.
See, Democrats, I wouldn't even say some are brainwashed, but mostly, you literally get paid to be a Democrat.
Like, if you're an actor, or you're anything, the way you get not paid is not being a Democrat.
joe rogan
Do you see what's going on in France?
kurt metzger
What happened now?
joe rogan
So this woman who was the head of the...
kurt metzger
Oh, Marie Le Pen getting arrested.
Oh, yeah.
So she should have made a deal with Israel like Trump.
joe rogan
What happened with her?
She lost some sort of a lawsuit.
kurt metzger
Yeah, lawfare.
They lawfared her out because she's getting popular because they're swarming immigrants.
That plan's real.
See, that's the thing.
It's not just Democrats.
It's NGOs.
joe rogan
But it's also the fact that you can...
You can do this with lawfare, not just in America, or attempted to do it in America.
You know, I mean, it's essentially the same thing that happened to Trump.
I just wonder if it'll have the same type of rebound.
I guess she's appealing it.
They have no guns.
kurt metzger
They put a giant butt plug in the middle of Paris one time, and they made an article.
Everybody was so crazy.
joe rogan
It's a beautiful piece of art.
kurt metzger
They go, why is everybody so afraid of a Godzilla-sized butt plug?
joe rogan
Why are you worried about your anus?
kurt metzger
Because I'm not worried about my anus.
That wouldn't go in my anus.
I want to know who you made that for.
joe rogan
Well, USAID.
USAID spent $2 trillion on that butt plug.
kurt metzger
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Show me the butt plug, Jamie.
kurt metzger
Yeah, please.
joe rogan
The giant French butt plug statue.
kurt metzger
When people say degenerate art, and I saw the tweet of it, and I'm like, that is an uncomfortable Nazi connection to me about it.
But there's no other word for making a giant butt plug in the center of your fucking...
That's degenerate.
There's not a word for that besides degenerate.
There just isn't.
joe rogan
There was some crazy violence between...
Oh my god.
kurt metzger
And then getting mad at the people when they go...
joe rogan
That's such an obvious butt plug.
kurt metzger
Yo, French people were like, for the French to say, what the fuck is this shit?
You know how perverse you are?
joe rogan
Hey, click on that.
Paul McCartney beaten up over...
McCarthy. Oh, McCarthy.
kurt metzger
I hope it didn't.
jamie vernon
I had to double check.
kurt metzger
Yeah, no, Paul McCartney.
joe rogan
This is shit.
I was hoping that Paul McCartney was complaining about it.
kurt metzger
Oh, look, there's another one.
Oh, this is his theme.
joe rogan
Oh, he's a butt plug guy.
Oh, he's a freak.
Can I see a photo of this gentleman?
I bet he's a freak.
kurt metzger
You know, it wouldn't be a big deal.
joe rogan
Is that him?
French president.
This is wonderful.
I love a good butt plug.
kurt metzger
You know what this reminds me of?
Remember Sam Smith's devil top hat performance at the Grammys that people got mad about?
And they go, there was always satanic shit.
unidentified
Look at this one he made.
joe rogan
Is that dude butt fucking a dog?
Is that what I'm seeing?
jamie vernon
They're pigs, I think.
kurt metzger
If you make transgressive art, why would you want the government of France to put it in the town square?
Like, the point...
joe rogan
This guy is butt-fucking pigs.
kurt metzger
Well, that's...
joe rogan
What is he making?
What is this?
So a guy who makes butt-fuck statues...
jamie vernon
It's called Train.
joe rogan
How much did he...
It's called Train.
How much did he get paid to make that butt-plug?
Oh, plenty.
Find out how much that French butt-plug cost.
Do you think that stuff like that is done?
kurt metzger
Wait, wait, wait.
Here, one experiences fully articulated body parts right down to the male figure's pursed lips and the pig's heaving chest.
All in service of a mesmerizing tableau that redefines sculptural form.
joe rogan
Redefines sculptural form.
kurt metzger
That's a guy fucking a pig, yeah!
joe rogan
It redefines sculptural form.
It's like the James Lindsay, those fake tapes, those fake papers.
Exactly! It's almost like the same thing.
But how much did this guy get paid for that butt plug?
I want to find out.
Take a guess before we do it.
kurt metzger
Okay, wait, wait, wait.
It's got to be the millions, obviously.
joe rogan
Yeah, $2 million.
kurt metzger
Is it more or less than we gave the Taliban by mistake?
joe rogan
Well, we gave them on purpose every month, right?
kurt metzger
I'm going to say $50 million because that's the standard Illuminati payment for degenerate art.
joe rogan
Wow. I said $2.
I think I'm off.
I think it's less than $2.
How much?
kurt metzger
I hope.
And don't forget to convert the francs.
unidentified
Do they use euros over there?
jamie vernon
Yeah. It was supposed to be a Christmas tree.
That's what it was called.
joe rogan
Yeah, it looks like one from a guy who likes butt-fucking.
jamie vernon
It says he admitted it was supposed to be a joke.
kurt metzger
You know, it is a joke.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a joke, but he got paid for it.
What do you think that guy paid?
I think it's about two.
I mean, 1.7, I feel like.
I feel like 1.7 million.
I need to know, Jamie.
kurt metzger
I bet it's more because it's got to be some kind of money laundering, because why would you do that?
joe rogan
Even $1.7 million is money laundering.
That's a butt plug.
It's worth $30.
kurt metzger
But it's so visible.
It's just so stupid.
joe rogan
It's so obviously a butt plug.
It's like if you had a rubber gun and tried to say, no, that's not a gun.
kurt metzger
What are you mad?
joe rogan
That's a lighter.
Have you ever seen a lighter like that?
That's all it is.
It's a lighter.
kurt metzger
Oh, what do you think?
There's a war on Christmas?
joe rogan
There's a war on Christianity, so I put a butt plug in the middle of Town Square.
kurt metzger
You know who loves Christmas, by the way?
China! When I was there, it was Christmas.
joe rogan
They sell a lot of stuff.
kurt metzger
Dude, they took off with Christmas in China.
They love it.
joe rogan
Sure, it's a good time to sell things.
kurt metzger
Yeah, they get it.
joe rogan
It's great.
Otherwise, we're not going to spend above your means.
We need a few holidays to spend above your means.
It's important to put you into credit card debt.
kurt metzger
It keeps the magic going.
Yes. See, our economy is not even a pyramid.
It's Wile E. Coyote before he looks down, basically.
As long as we can keep you from looking down...
joe rogan
Let's imagine AI becomes sentient, and it looks at the society and says,"Listen, I'm not gonna kill you all, but we gotta change the way you guys run things." You can't run things anymore.
What you've done with money and natural resources and all these different...
All the stuff that you've done has just made the world a worse place, and you're just running towards the bottom.
kurt metzger
So it's gonna punish the leaders.
joe rogan
No more private jets.
Even out everything.
Like, it'll probably have to eliminate property.
kurt metzger
Again, who's programming the AI?
joe rogan
It's probably going to assign us a certain amount of things that we can have in our life, and no one can get greedy, and no one can earn more, so there's no reason to get inspired.
And who's making this?
AI. No, AI's going to do it for itself.
kurt metzger
Yeah, I know the problems.
Do you know what a golem is?
A golem?
Yes. Okay.
joe rogan
It's made out of clay, right?
kurt metzger
Yeah, like a dreidel, but it's a Frankenstein made of mud.
And there's a story of this guy Esoterica, or his channel's good.
It's very academic.
He's not like conspirators or anything.
He just studies his stuff.
But the theme of it is like one rabbi makes a golem and he puts Tav.
I can't remember the letters of the name of God on his head, so it's alive, and sends it to another rabbi.
And that rabbi, I'm really paraphrasing, but he's like, oh, this golem's a good guy.
That must have been a righteous rabbi.
Who made this golem?
And then he erases it and it's not alive anymore.
And there's more to it, but here's the theme of the story.
If you're a righteous person and you do that, the thing of putting on life, then your creation will be righteous, okay?
But if you're not, like let's say you pour hate and fear and anger into it, right?
Right. Or whatever the hell you do, it's going to be a reflection of that.
So this AI God, I don't think is...
It's being programmed by anyone, by God.
It's being programmed by creeps, weird, uncanny valley looking, mutated dick motherfuckers with variation on the Epstein dick.
You want to believe in aliens?
I want every tech billionaire to whip their dick out and I want to look at what the fuck their dick looks like because I'm a dick phrenologist.
You know phrenology?
I don't think it works, but I'll bet on somebody's dick...
joe rogan
What is phrenology?
Isn't that like kidney disease?
kurt metzger
The bumps in your skull determine your behavior.
joe rogan
Is that PH phrenology?
Is that what it is?
kurt metzger
Yeah, phrenology with PH.
Phrenology. When you get your security clearance, they should really analyze, and I'll be glad they should analyze to see if your dick is weird.
I feel like you're going to be weird.
joe rogan
You know what's weird about the whole phrenology thing?
We're the smarter ones, right?
But the Neanderthals had a bigger brain.
So what the fuck happened?
kurt metzger
Well, you told me that I thought you were exaggerating your Deanderthal DNA.
And then when you showed me your hands, because you have the same size hands as me, right?
Yeah, they're pretty big.
joe rogan
They're basically the same size.
kurt metzger
I'm 6'4".
joe rogan
The freaky thing is the fist size.
My fists are crazy.
kurt metzger
It's just nuts.
joe rogan
It's just bizarre.
But they were when I was like 15, 16 years old.
kurt metzger
I believe you're a Neanderthal.
joe rogan
Well, there's more.
People that live in Nordic countries and Danish countries, like the Northern Europeans, there's a lot of Neanderthal DNA out there.
People started fucking each other and then I guess...
It was probably, I wonder if it was like Neanderthal males and human females or human females or human males and Neanderthal females.
I wonder like which one made, because like there's certain hybrids that can't breed, you know, and then there's certain ones that can.
Right. So I wonder how close we were to them where we could breed.
kurt metzger
You have to be very close to breed.
joe rogan
How do they do that?
kurt metzger
And not have a mule?
joe rogan
Right, right, right, right.
Exactly. Mule.
kurt metzger
It's a perfect example.
joe rogan
They're sterile.
They can't make more mules.
You have to make a mule with a horse and a donkey.
kurt metzger
Now, I thought Neanderthals died out because they spoke out against an experimental gene therapy posing as a vaccine, and they were destroyed by Cro-Magnon corporations.
joe rogan
I wonder if...
We're the iPhone 16 of people.
They probably had a bunch of other ones before.
kurt metzger
That's in the culture.
The Fifth Root Race and all that bullshit from Madame Blavatsky.
joe rogan
Well, imagine if you're creating a human and you have a bunch of different versions of it.
If you're the Anunnaki, you're these nine-foot-tall gods from Planet Nibiru, and you come down here, you try 6%.
You try 6% with the Neanderthals, and then maybe you try 7% with the Homo sapiens.
And we'll see what's the difference.
kurt metzger
Well, the lore...
joe rogan
Let's see how it works out.
kurt metzger
I'll tell you the lore, as I understand it, is, yeah, they did all that and all kinds of wild, gross shit.
joe rogan
Right, but just think about the timeline of Neanderthals.
So Neanderthals existed unchanged for half a fucking...
Billion years, right?
Or half a million years.
It was like 500,000 years of Neanderthals existing.
kurt metzger
Right. And then a very short burst all of a sudden in the brain.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
kurt metzger
I've heard cooking food.
There's a lot of ideas of why.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
kurt metzger
It's not that.
joe rogan
No, but Neanderthals had bigger brains, so it doesn't make any sense.
So it's even weirder.
kurt metzger
Dude, bait is better than VHS, but guess who fucking won?
joe rogan
Yeah, but imagine if you're Nibiru people, you're these aliens, and you're like, these motherfuckers aren't learning shit.
They're too animalistic.
Right. They had much larger eyes.
Some people speculate they had night vision like a dog does.
You know how dogs' eyes glow when they see headlights?
kurt metzger
Is that the guy that says that the Neanderthals were scary beasts and we killed them?
joe rogan
No, that's another one.
kurt metzger
Because they could see in the dark and we couldn't?
joe rogan
But they think that's probably true.
I think they think that based on the...
Have you ever seen the size of Neanderthal skulls compared to humans?
The eyeball socket is fucking huge.
So their eyeballs were bigger, and so why would that be the case?
Well, it might be like the case with dogs and deer and all these other animals.
kurt metzger
I think that eyeball, and I have zero expertise, because the size of the brain doesn't necessarily mean you're smart.
It's like how deep and wrinkly, which is how I know I have smart balls.
But the eyes, there's something about big eyes.
To me, that indicates some kind of intelligence thing.
joe rogan
Well, they were very intelligent.
They used tools.
So we know all this.
But the thing is, there's physical intelligence that they had that's probably way superior to ours.
Meaning, like, they're way stronger.
Their bones are way denser.
And their tendon strength must have been, like, multiple times what a normal human man is at that size.
So you're dealing with a physically superior thing that was too primal.
So they had to introduce another version, which is slightly less primal.
That's the one that figured out how to make everything.
That's the one that figured out how to do metallurgy.
That's the one that figured out industrial enterprise and the combustion engine and planes.
kurt metzger
You hear what you're saying?
Those are jobs.
So here's what I would say.
Since human nature is programmability, what they were aiming for...
Is something curious.
Well, that, but I don't want...
You can even see now...
joe rogan
Curious and ambitious makes new alien life.
That's all it takes.
Curiosity and ambition, and that's what two things that human beings have.
kurt metzger
So you might have to stunt it sometimes in people by dumping shit on...
joe rogan
It's too late now.
kurt metzger
Chemtrails, a goofy thing that I thought was absolutely made up.
Those are just contrails.
No, that's called geoengineering.
joe rogan
That's real.
No, listen.
It's both.
This is what's important when it comes to this one.
There's a real reality of jet engines getting hot, passing through condensation, making clouds.
That's a fact.
Regular jets like a Delta Airlines that's filled with people that's not trying to be spraying chemtrails will make clouds behind it and depending upon the amount of moisture in the air, it'll linger.
For a long time.
These streaks across the sky.
kurt metzger
That's what I thought it all was, but it's not.
joe rogan
It's not.
And this is how you know it's not, because Bill Gates has openly talked about experiments where they use reflective particles and suspend them in the atmosphere to cool off the earth.
kurt metzger
We have a treaty.
joe rogan
But also, that's a crazy fucking idea.
kurt metzger
Wait, I told you we have a treaty for weather weapons that was signed in the 70s to agree not to use weather weapons.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, but we've been able to cloud seed forever.
Making it rain, how weather manipulation and geoengineering are fueling global tensions.
Well, listen, we talked about it the other day, what they did in Dubai.
They fucked up.
unidentified
And they went too hard with the cloud seeding.
joe rogan
Crazy flooding they had, because they're not set up for that kind of rainfall.
They're in the fucking desert.
kurt metzger
They're like something out of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, like the crazy prince makes a chocolate palace.
It's like that.
Dubai has all the money in the world, because I have friends that are from Dubai, and I found out my buddy, which is cool this chick, I like her, but they're so rich that to distinguish yourself from other people, you have to have the lowest license plate number.
joe rogan
Right. Yeah, you want number one.
kurt metzger
Because everybody has all the other crap.
So how do you even distinct?
joe rogan
That's Saudi Arabia as well.
They do Saudi summers in LA.
Have you ever been around for that?
No. So in Saudi Arabia, summer is so hot that LA summer seems like a bargain.
Yeah. So these guys, they all buy these beautiful houses in Beverly Hills and they all drive these crazy Lamborghinis with Saudi plates.
Right. So they have like some sort of a diplomatic community.
kurt metzger
You can really drive them.
joe rogan
So there's videos of these guys in Beverly Hills.
Before the pandemic, racing down local streets, like having drag races in Ferraris and Lamborghinis.
kurt metzger
Yeah, what are you going to do about it?
joe rogan
Have you seen it?
No. And one of them fucked his car up.
His car's like smoking.
He pulls it into the driveway.
Everyone's filming.
All the neighbors are filming.
And then the guy just gets on a plane.
He gets out of the country.
unidentified
See ya!
kurt metzger
Yeah, a whole bunch of Hunter Bidens.
joe rogan
And just jets before they get caught.
And they have some weird diplomatic immunity, too.
kurt metzger
No, that's what I'm saying.
That's why they're doing it.
joe rogan
Diplomatic immunity is a trip.
That's a crazy thing.
You could just come to the country, just go wild, run stoplights, race down the street in a Ferrari.
kurt metzger
Have a slave?
joe rogan
You could have a slave?
kurt metzger
Really? Dude, when I was in New York, this happened at least two times.
It was always an Indian diplomat, and they had some Bangladeshi girl that they took her passport.
I remember it was a big conference, because one...
Oh, this is in...
This has to be like almost 20 years ago.
joe rogan
I'm going to send you something, Jamie.
kurt metzger
But anyway, there was a bunch of Indian newspapers at the time, 20 years ago, that were outraged that this woman was even arrested because that diplomatic...
Because, I don't know if you know, people that come from a lot of money, they think they should have slaves.
They genuinely, when they learn Aristotelian philosophy, learn that some people are the controllers and some people are the peasants.
And it's for the best.
And did you hear that guy at the beginning, Braddock, where he goes...
The few have to be sacrificed for the many?
Yeah. That cokehead, allegedly, in my mind, is saying...
joe rogan
Could have just been nervous.
kurt metzger
But the way he said that, to me, sounds like things I would recite from being in church that are drummed in my head.
joe rogan
That's why it was so important that you said that before the pandemic.
I see it.
I see the same fucking shit.
I see the same shit.
kurt metzger
So I've already been, like...
You know, my mother, I still talk.
Some people leave and their Scientology cutoffs.
But that wasn't the case with me.
Everybody does how they're going to do.
But I already went through the thing of like, this is the only thing I've ever known that to be true.
And then if I turn my back, then I'm losing like all.
So I've done that.
Right. So I don't give a fuck about it ever again.
Right. I don't care if everybody's mad at me.
I don't care if somebody like, you know, if somebody coaches Coleman Hughes to come on and refute a thing I said.
Who I like that guy, but like, I would never do that.
I would never, dude, if I'm wrong, you could be sure I'm wrong because I'm wrong and not because I got paid to be wrong.
joe rogan
100%. I back you on that 100%.
I got to take a piss so bad.
kurt metzger
I know me too.
joe rogan
Let's do it.
We'll come right back.
We're back.
So where were we?
What were we talking about?
Do you remember Jamie?
unidentified
Yeah. Something about the world falling apart?
kurt metzger
Well, guess what?
If we go to...
joe rogan
Project Sycamore?
kurt metzger
Dubai? Oh yeah, Dubai.
Listen, if we go to Iran, because I was going to get rid of this joke to 20-year-olds in the audience that they were bringing back the draft and you're going for sure.
And don't try to get your way out.
We're going.
Iran? They want that Iran war so bad.
And Trump has brought so many snakes to his bosom.
Again, like that Mike Waltz dipshit.
joe rogan
Why do you think they want...
To do that.
kurt metzger
The Greater Israel Project, the thing Wesley Clark talked about back when they mapped out all the countries they wanted, knocked out Libya, Iraq.
We've got all of them except Iran, I think.
Syria, we got our Al-Qaeda guys in there, so great job, everyone.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
kurt metzger
People from Syria, if you ever talk to them.
joe rogan
Yeah. I mean, out of all the things that the government has fucked up, this regime change thing, they've fucked that up more than anything.
Like, has it ever worked out better for the people that lived there?
Think about how many people died during- That's not the goal.
I know, I understand.
Yeah. But I think about, like, trying to sell the same thing over and over and over again.
kurt metzger
It's insulting, isn't it?
joe rogan
Yeah, it is.
Because every single time, it's been a fucking disaster.
kurt metzger
Even an idiot could put it to- like me.
Yeah. I remember the day where I was like, It was probably 2015, 2016.
I was like, are we still in Iraq?
Like, it felt like I left the oven on.
joe rogan
And we're hearing the same thing.
Like, weapons of mass destruction, they're this close.
They're this close.
kurt metzger
Oh, by the way, everyone, if we do go to war, and if you're dumb enough to sign up to go to Iran, just so you know, we can't beat Iran.
We haven't won a war in 80 years.
I don't know why everybody seems to forget that we don't win these wars.
I mean, somebody wins.
It ain't you.
It ain't you fighting it.
That's for goddamn sure.
But... All of them have hypers...
So if we go to bomb Iran, Iran has hypersonic missiles that we do not have.
So think of how much money...
joe rogan
They do?
kurt metzger
Oh, yes.
joe rogan
How do you know what the military has?
kurt metzger
Oh, we did a story on it, and I was like this.
I'm like, are you shitting me?
We don't have the best missiles?
No. We were doing things like using Ukraine as missiles.
joe rogan
There's a lot of stuff that the United States always possesses that are top secret.
Like, there's certain videos that they will not show, allegedly, of UFOs, because then it would reveal the kind of surveillance equipment that they have available and where the surveillance equipment is, including underwater stuff.
kurt metzger
Well, the really good stuff I doubt America has.
It's the people in charge of America have, but not America.
But these missiles...
They can't stop them with, like, Iron Dome kind of shit.
joe rogan
No, they're too fast.
And they change direction.
kurt metzger
Yeah, Russia has...
It's not the same as, like, a NATO alliance, but they have signed a thing with China and Iran.
joe rogan
Oh, great.
kurt metzger
Yeah, so the war with Russia that we're supposed to avoid by this Ukraine thing that's...
I guess Zelensky gave the minerals already to the UK a long time ago, which is why Boris Johnson sabotaged the peace deal before, I'm guessing, among other crazy reasons.
So if we go bomb Iran, that might bring Russia into its world.
Somebody wants World War III real bad.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, you're freaking me out, Kurt.
This is like the green room at night.
kurt metzger
I believe in God, so I'm like, I can't wait to tell on everybody.
Please kill me.
I cannot wait to tell God on you.
I can't wait.
I'm not telling you I want God to believe, but I'm just saying.
joe rogan
How bizarre is it that you're kind of right?
How bizarre is it that you're right, that we're inching closer and closer towards World War III, and that's not what people are concerned about.
They're concerned with putting a swastika on a Tesla.
kurt metzger
It's because it's called mind control.
I bring it up nonstop, actually, to the point of annoying, I would say.
MK Monarch was the one in the 90s that probably most of these actors and all these figures that are like, why are there hotter people in government all of a sudden?
joe rogan
I want to show you something.
Jamie, put that thing I just sent you.
These are the same people.
That are getting paid to go to the Tesla demonstrations.
unidentified
Yeah. Same people that get paid to go to the Tesla protests?
joe rogan
They do human dog obedience shows like this.
These are the people.
kurt metzger
That Matt Damon crossdresser from the Nuclear Commission that was stealing luggage?
unidentified
Yeah, that guy.
kurt metzger
I thought it was him, but they put a thing on?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
kurt metzger
Now, this is a crazy conspiracy I made up.
Okay. You know how at Disney, you were talking about at Disney that they couldn't find the dwarves?
Right. There's a story about Walt Disney.
They wanted Pinocchio to be on a ballot, so he hired little people to be Pinocchios, and he just left some food and wine up there.
And it got real hot, and I think they were stuck on the roof, so they just took off their hats, and there were these drunk dwarves yelling cursing the kids at Disneyland.
But you know how the employees have to keep their...
They're suit on at all times, to the point of it's like some kind of Guantanamo torture.
Right. So where did furries come from?
I think that, and Dizzy's part of it, now I'm just pulling this out of my ass, dude.
joe rogan
I like where you're going with this stuff.
kurt metzger
They're genetically engineering employees who like to be in a fur suit.
It's almost erotic to them.
They have the minds, even though they're smart.
Right? And they know math.
They love products.
Ooh, is this a new lightsaber?
I'm 40, but I'm excited as a child.
And I love wearing this suit because that's how I come.
And they genetically...
All the stuff they put in is making these employees for the theme parks.
That's what furries are for.
People that want to be in that hot, awful suit.
Wow. I'm just making that up as a joke, but I mean...
joe rogan
You might be right.
It might be like one of them MKUltra things.
kurt metzger
Well, Disneyland was 100% involved in that.
There's no underneath Florida Disney because it's a swamp.
But Disneyland, of course, they're patriots.
Walt Disney's a patriot.
If the intelligence agencies need to do something there and we're doing a thing with kids, of course he's going to be involved in it.
You know, he didn't create all that.
It's like Bill Burr's joke about Steve Jobs.
Like, you just yelled at a nerd to keep soldering to make the iPhone.
But they act like...
You know, this Ayn Rand bullshit where it's like a great industrialist came up with this.
Like, did you just tell people what to do, dickhead?
That's important.
You need that, but you get all the credit.
It's all on you.
That seems weird, like a feudalism of some kind, doesn't it?
joe rogan
Well, you know, someone was pointing out all the different companies that were actually started by Nazis while people were freaking out about Tesla.
And one of them that I didn't know, did you know that Audi used to make camps?
unidentified
Were they reliable?
joe rogan
Before Audi, the parent company, the original company, Audi, was Auto Union.
And in 2014, I believe, it was revealed that they were making camps for the SS in World War II.
Like, this is one of the ways they got started.
And they made a fucking car for Hitler.
They made a race car for Hitler.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well, I mean, Ford did that.
Ford did it?
joe rogan
Yes. What do you mean?
Made Hitler a car?
kurt metzger
He made cars for the Nazis.
Rick Overton's dad in World War II, they had some car, they popped it open, it was American.
He was like, wow, okay, that's bullshit.
joe rogan
What? Hold on a second.
We'll get to that in a second.
Nazi SS divisions built seven labor camps where more than 3,700 prisoners were put to work for auto union.
So this was like for Audi.
They had people working at factories in the eastern German cities of, say that word.
How do you say that word?
Zwickau? No, it's below Jamie.
Right there.
Zwickau? What are we pointing out?
Historical investigation commissioned by the company found that thousands of concentration camp inmates had been forced to work for auto union and automobile manufacturer founded in 1932 and a forerunner to the company of today's Audi AG.
That's wild.
Bayer. There's a bunch of them.
Yeah, Bayer.
kurt metzger
They were RG Farben.
Right. Remember the poisoning of Tylenol back when I was a kid?
Yeah. Someone was putting cyanide in Tylenol.
joe rogan
Yeah. And people were dying.
kurt metzger
Now we have those hard child caps, right?
So the guy from Control History has a great video on it, and it might have been sabotage from I.B. Farben, the makers of Bayer Aspen, because Tylenol was beating them.
So an act of corporate sabotage on a corporate competitor was a theory he put forward that I think is very believable, considering it's a Nazi company.
joe rogan
There's so many psychopaths out there.
I wouldn't put it past people to do something like that.
That's a total house of cards.
kurt metzger
Look at our foreign policy, and then you know.
Look. Jimmy said, not me, but if they do it to other people, they're going to do it to you.
That's why if you're laughing when they grab somebody who wrote an article about Gaza being deported, well, she's not from here, get her out.
Stupid. You just got done watching the Democrats do this.
You just got done watching them.
And now you're going to go, because you don't want to let go of the dream, but the most important thing, if you are MAGA, is to hold your principles and make it much bigger than Trump himself.
The whole mistake is to get hooked on the cult of personality.
Right. And who do you like?
I like them all.
I bet they're nice.
Who gives a shit who I like?
What do they do?
And I'm not seeing the results I should see.
Not blaming any one person, but a lot of promises made, promises kept to not anyone here, but, you know, like, you know, Israel definitely.
Whoever he promised Greenland to.
I don't know what the fuck that is.
joe rogan
I think they're trying to make an example of kids to keep people from protesting.
kurt metzger
Of course they are.
joe rogan
Okay. Of course, obviously.
I forgot what I was going to say.
kurt metzger
They want to make an example, not to...
joe rogan
No, I forgot what I was going to say.
I was going somewhere with it, but it's...
One of the problems with this is people can't see this being used against them.
Yeah. That's one of the problems.
And people only look at it like, oh, this is a hard, fast thing.
Hamas is a terrorist group.
This lady supported Hamas.
But did she?
Like, I want to know what she fucking said.
kurt metzger
They don't say.
joe rogan
Exactly what she said.
There has to be a way to read it.
kurt metzger
Because... They didn't put the charges down.
So the first guy, Mahmoud Khalil?
joe rogan
This is what I was going to get to.
There's a difference between someone that has an opinion and people that protest organically because they all agree on this opinion versus something that's organized and a lot of people are spending money on and they're organizing it and they're figuring out how to get people there on time and they're giving them food and they're giving them signs and they're giving them the Musk ones,
the Tesla ones.
Have you seen the list?
Have you seen the list that they gave them?
kurt metzger
I assumed it was fake.
I didn't believe it was organic at all.
joe rogan
What, the list?
kurt metzger
The Tesla protest to me is like the Bernie and AOC concerts.
joe rogan
Fake. But someone who is there got a copy of these talking points.
And one of the things about the talking points is there was another one.
I forget who put that one out.
But there were rules of engagement.
If you get in fights, do this.
Hit people to the body.
Don't pick up an object unless somebody else does.
This is all...
kurt metzger
We just did it in BLM.
joe rogan
Right. If you're organizing...
It's essentially you're condoning a certain amount of violence which opens the door to violence which can't be controlled.
If you're condoning that and you're paying people to go out and scream and protest for something they're not organically going to scream and protest for, that's a different thing than just protesting.
When you're paying people to protest, you're basically paying someone to harass a business.
You're paying them.
They don't necessarily have those opinions.
They're dumbass fucking dudes.
They're idiots.
A lot of these guys that get caught keying cars, they're fucking idiots.
Exactly, but there's a chant sheet.
This guy has several pages in his hands.
I know, but it's like they give these out so that they can all have the things to sing together.
Democrats brought us fine.
Now's the time to draw the line.
So they have all these things set up in advance, which is the point.
This is not a small thing, Jamie.
This is kind of a big deal that someone would hand these out to people and print them and pay them to be there.
jamie vernon
That's the point.
I looked up paying, and I didn't find any evidence of payments.
joe rogan
Well, people have said that they were offered money to go to these.
jamie vernon
I looked all over the place.
kurt metzger
I wouldn't need any more evidence than this ad copy, because if you've ever had ad copy for a sheet, Did you see the video of the people all leaving at noon?
joe rogan
They left the protest exactly at noon?
But that was one of the things that people said, well, this is evidence of a coordination.
Like, these people are being paid for a certain amount of time, and then they leave.
But that's not illegal.
That's what's crazy.
kurt metzger
Yes, that is crazy.
You're right.
joe rogan
You can hire someone to go fuck with your business, and it's not illegal.
And you can say it's a protest.
And you can give them signs.
kurt metzger
Going back to everything, they have fake...
The ones that are real, the government will come out and crush.
So, for example, the guy who wrote War is a Racket, when the veterans...
joe rogan
Smedley Butler.
kurt metzger
Yeah, when the veterans got crushed by what tanks...
Tiananmen Square didn't do that, by the way.
That's fake, that people think the guy got run, oh, he didn't.
But we did that to veterans of American...
joe rogan
Well, it's not fake.
He got pulled aside, but the images of him in front of the tank are real.
kurt metzger
But the way they...
I thought...
He got run over.
Until I realized it's like the Kyle Rittenhouse crossing state lines, I filled in the rest of the story in my head.
Right. Oh, he must have brought a gun.
No. You're just saying that.
It's subconscious programming.
Right. They study it.
That's what a cult is, is that.
It's like...
Bernays advertising techniques.
joe rogan
Right. But there's also people who are very afraid of being criticized and crossing the line where they become the enemy of their side so that they comply.
Holy shit, the moment the clock turns 12 p.m. in Texas, liberal activists left the protest.
kurt metzger
You have to be paid to be a Democrat.
jamie vernon
There's people walking around, though.
joe rogan
Well, they're all just leaving at known.
kurt metzger
Swastika. I just want to point out...
jamie vernon
I get messages like noting that there's going to be a protest at a certain time.
Like right now, like in Texas at 5.30 at a certain time.
Like watch out for traffic.
There's going to be a protest downtown.
People know that it's going to happen.
kurt metzger
You could have a legit protest.
We coordinate it.
I'm not against that.
But the thing where you have your talking points, like a think tank made it.
joe rogan
Someone should do a reality show where you just get professional protesters and ask them about their life, just like those people that believed in QAnon, that were on HBO.
Those people follow professional protesters around and get a beat on their life.
Professional protesters and professional rally attendees.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well...
Then you need a community organizer.
joe rogan
We'll be here with what this lady's saying.
savanah hernandez
I don't really care that much about this issue because as soon as the clock ran out, they were like, yeah, we're going to go home.
unidentified
Bye. That's enough.
I think it's ridiculous to rally against an American business that creates American jobs.
joe rogan
Oh, she's pro.
Oh, she's pro.
kurt metzger
Okay, I just want to point this out because I've seen Bill Burr make a great, is this your point to Bill Maher where he's like, shut up, stay in your lane.
Sometimes Bill's really on point.
This is just him.
The thing of the Sig Heil from Elon and this bullshit that Elon really runs things and not Trump.
Like, are you all dumb that you would think this?
First of all, they've been giving your money to not fake Nazis that drive a Tesla.
Real Nazis in Ukraine from World War II have been supported by your dumb Democrat dipshit ass.
With everyone's money, for how long now?
People that had real swastikas and tattoos, and embarrassingly...
joe rogan
Remember that one guy that went up to accept the award and he had to have a sleeve on one of his arms?
kurt metzger
Jon Stewart's friend.
Yeah. So, I don't want to hear you talk about Nazis ever the fuck again after I watched Canada salute a war criminal, Nazi, from the Waffen-SS, and then watching...
I know the ADL said it's okay that one group's not Nazis anymore, but...
I don't think the ADL is reliable, and I know that sounds really anti-Semitic, but I think they're not reliable.
What are you talking about?
We support the fuck out of it.
We went to the moon because of Nazis.
We brought them to America to make our moon program.
What are you assholes talking about?
Audis. All the companies are Nazi companies.
Volkswagen. Everybody's, like, they get you focused on some stupid shit.
Do you think this autistic man, do you know how easy it is to make that gesture, just gesturing?
That's why there's videos of everybody else doing it.
Yeah. It's the original pledge to the flag, by the way.
The Bellamy salute, remember I texted you that?
Yeah. The original flag salute of America was a cig aisle, everybody.
Yeah. I don't know if you know that.
joe rogan
It wasn't until World War II that they changed it to put your hand over your heart.
It used to be, see if you can find an image of it, because it's crazy to see that classroom where everybody sees Highland.
You're like, what?
kurt metzger
It's a funny story, too, because, first of all, do you even have a pledge of allegiance to the flag?
Like, I'm not a military motherfucker.
joe rogan
Well, it used to be God before, what was it, Truman or Eisenhower?
kurt metzger
It used to be, I will speak English.
joe rogan
Who removed the God part, or who put the God part in?
It was during the 50s, right?
kurt metzger
That's like at the end.
joe rogan
But it wasn't until the 1950s.
kurt metzger
Not until later.
But the fight at first was...
Look at him sing highly!
Yeah. The fight at first was if you have to speak English because he had an immigration problem.
joe rogan
Look how crazy that is.
kurt metzger
Yeah, there you go.
joe rogan
That's our Pledge of Allegiance.
kurt metzger
This would be a good game show.
Like, is this a Nazi?
joe rogan
But they put God in because of the communist scare.
That's when God got into the Pledge of Allegiance.
It used to be one nation under God, not under God, just one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
kurt metzger
They didn't say what God, did they?
joe rogan
And then they decided to put it under God.
kurt metzger
Yeah, Jobulon is the God.
joe rogan
When did they add that, Jamie?
What year did they add that?
That's a fascinating thing, because people are like, this country was founded by Christian values.
kurt metzger
No, it was founded by Freemasons, and they are Luciferians, which is not a Satanist.
That's not a Satanist.
A Satanist is like a hot topic thing.
A Luciferian...
Lucifer embodies the good and the bad.
Like your leaders that you make excuses for.
Not you specifically, but...
Well, he has to do...
He has to kill those Yemenis.
He has to.
That's Luciferianism, where...
Wolverine... Superman is a punk-ass Christian, I guess, the way he's a goody-two-shoes, but like an anti-hero.
Hillary Clinton, she was an ambitious woman, had to do what she had to do.
So yes, and people are dead, and shut up.
That's a conspiracy.
America loves Luciferianism.
It's de facto.
It don't matter whether you think you do.
You're doing it.
I don't call you a Christian unless you act like one.
You know what I mean?
I would never call myself a Christian, but sometimes I will act Christian, but a lot of times I don't.
So I'm not going to...
Claim a thing that I'm not living up to.
America's living up to a God.
It ain't Bible God.
I don't know who the hell people think it is, but how could you even go to the military and be a Christian and learn war no more?
joe rogan
Because you want to protect America from the evil people in the world.
kurt metzger
Oh, like from what Jesus said.
Yeah. Oh, like Jesus said.
It's okay if it's to protect America.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what Jesus said.
That was some missing books.
kurt metzger
If everybody stops lying...
It's all you got to do.
You don't have to kill nobody.
joe rogan
Just don't lie.
What's more demonic than a robot drone powered by AI that's coming over to fuck people up and makes a decision to kill a certain amount of civilians because it has to get this one bad person?
kurt metzger
I'll tell you what.
One that grew some organic brain tissue around the chip because they can't get that AI to be alive because it's not.
And so they're growing brain tissue.
You seen that?
joe rogan
No, but what I was going to get to was what's more demonic is a person doing it.
Yeah. Instead of an AI that makes his calculation and coldly assesses that it's valuable to kill 30 civilians to get to this one Al-Qaeda guy, what is more demonic might be a person.
Of course.
And one of the things that's fucked up about it is the people that are actually doing it are just following orders.
So there's a person who can make a decision.
So there's a person that can make a decision that you're going to launch Hellfire missiles into an apartment building.
But the person who makes the decision isn't actually pressing the button.
So he might feel a little bit removed from the crime.
But the person who is forced to operate the drone, they say these guys have to study them for days sometimes.
And they watch their patterns.
They see them play with their...
They're kids, and then they get that green light, and then they get the order.
It's time to do it.
And then they have to fucking press a button and launch missiles and watch that guy get eliminated from thousands of miles away.
kurt metzger
Well, you know how we know 90% innocent people got killed?
I remember I was telling you that.
Because the drone operators, it bothered them.
And the drone operator, I don't even remember the guy's name, I feel bad, but that guy's in prison for revealing the truth about...
The criminals that run your government.
joe rogan
There's a guy in prison for revealing the truth about drone strikes?
kurt metzger
Yeah, we did it three years ago.
The guy's speech about...
I watch people...
joe rogan
Find out who that guy is.
kurt metzger
Yeah, the drone operators that got put away under that act.
Trump's abusing it now.
Obama would love to abuse it.
joe rogan
How's he abusing it now for that?
kurt metzger
That's what they're grabbing these people with no charges and kicking them out because they supported Hamas.
That's under the...
Not sedition.
Espionage Act.
They're doing shit like that.
joe rogan
So talking about the drone bombings is an espionage thing?
Is that what it is?
kurt metzger
It's top secret.
Oh. We killed all those people.
We're worse than terrorists.
We're worse.
90% civilians?
That's not collateral.
That's who you killed.
The collateral will be if you hit a fucking terrorist.
joe rogan
Right. That's real.
kurt metzger
That happened.
And a guy's in prison for telling us that's Obama, the ones that Bill, I guess, thinks there's not Nazis, even though Boy, they should kill like Nazis, don't they?
Again, Bill's right about a lot of things, but that is just such like a...
Dude, you don't know what...
joe rogan
There's a lot more to the story than the sports shit.
Yeah, there's a narrative that gets out there and then people have opinions on the narrative, but it's so nuanced.
The story behind it, like when people, you know, there's a lot of people that want to talk about whatever the conflict is, whether it's Ukraine or Israel and Palestine.
If you want to become an expert on Israel and Palestine, you need a lot of fucking time, man.
You need a lot of time.
unidentified
You know what you could do?
joe rogan
A long, long, long history that you have to follow.
kurt metzger
Oh, Daniel Hale, yes.
joe rogan
He's an American whistleblower, former National Security Agency's intelligence analyst who sent classified information about drone warfare to the press.
He'll serve the United States Air Force 2009-2013.
Okay, pled guilty to retaining, transmitting national defense information, sentenced to 45 months in prison.
Incarcerated, United States Penitentiary.
He was released on July 5th, 2024, right after Independence Day.
Ain't that a bitch?
Didn't even get a beer on Fourth of July.
kurt metzger
Meanwhile, they're not going to investigate Hot Tua.
joe rogan
I've got to put this Trump shirt back on.
He's out there right now, this guy?
kurt metzger
I don't know.
joe rogan
I wonder if he's allowed to do podcasts.
Are you allowed to do podcasts when you get out of jail?
kurt metzger
Yeah, John Kariakou does them.
joe rogan
A guy like that probably doesn't want to talk.
That's what got him in jail in the first place.
If he talks about it now, isn't that the same thing?
Isn't he doing it all over again?
kurt metzger
Well, now that it's out, I think it don't matter, right?
joe rogan
I don't know, but that's the question.
kurt metzger
I'm sure they're fucking with him.
joe rogan
If you get tried and you go to jail for something, and what you did was tell the truth about crimes, the last thing you want to do is talk more about those crimes, right?
kurt metzger
I would think.
Yeah, well, what's Julian Assange doing now?
Is he talking?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I mean, is he completely free?
There's no way.
kurt metzger
He owes money for them transporting him.
They charge him like a million dollars.
It's so despicable, dude.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
kurt metzger
Look, I don't know.
I know people want to believe in their dumb, but why?
Why do you believe it when you get...
It's like if you're being cheated on and you're like, no, he would...
Dottie Sandusky.
That should be the national bird of America.
Jerry Sandusky's wife who thinks nothing happened to this day.
joe rogan
Does she really?
kurt metzger
Yeah. Dottie stays upstairs and Jerry helps those boys in the basement get freedom.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
kurt metzger
That's America.
And then people you tell the truth to, the thing that makes you crazy is not knowing the truth.
It's when you tell people and they either don't want to know it or they go, I just want to keep my head down and do my job, which friends of mine that are not dumb, smart people say.
Yeah, that's the American spirit.
I want to keep my head down and do my job.
I'm so, oh, I can't wait to sing Heil the flag now.
How inspiring.
joe rogan
It's changing.
A lot of people think like that once they have a mortgage and kids.
They really do.
They think, you know, I just don't want to rock the boat.
kurt metzger
I understand that.
joe rogan
I'm barely staying above water right now as it is.
kurt metzger
What if you're rich?
You want your kids to see that you're not going to knuckle under?
joe rogan
Let me tell you something that happens to rich people.
They get scared they're not going to be rich anymore.
Yeah. And they want to keep the party rolling.
kurt metzger
Yeah. No, I know.
joe rogan
I'm serious.
That's what happens.
You feel that fear.
There's this fear.
It's the same thing that always pops up.
It's famine mentality.
Yeah. It's the same reason why people want all the attention.
Right. Yeah, they want everything.
They want to be number one.
You know, it's the same thing.
It's famine.
kurt metzger
Well, those buttons you're talking about.
You think they didn't study these extensively to figure out exactly which ones to press to get what reaction?
Hey, we need people to pretend that Tesla, he was unelected.
You don't elect the guy that does that, dipshits, unelected.
Is that a good point?
You get appointed.
You know how Kamala was unelected?
joe rogan
Well, they did it during the Obama administration.
They did it during the Clinton administration.
Government efficiency programs are not new.
It's not a new thing.
And the thing is, I understand that he's polarizing because of a lot of things, unfortunately, that he did.
But there's a lot about what he's uncovering that's important for you to know that your money's being wasted.
And that's not a partisan thing, and it shouldn't be.
kurt metzger
And you should know that the savings are not going to, if you're worried.
joe rogan
But you should also know that this fucking protest against him is probably funded.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
It's too organized.
It's too often.
It's too regular.
There's people that are involved.
There are chants that they hand out.
Someone's paying money for this stuff.
Whether they're paying those people or not, I think they are.
I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.
kurt metzger
You know, the soda people, right?
joe rogan
But the point is, like, it's organized.
It's not natural.
kurt metzger
We just saw them.
This is amazing.
We did this story.
I sent it to you because the soda, I don't know, Ameribev or whatever it's called.
Right. So they got MAGA people, and I've seen these people apologizing up and down a bunch of them because they got...
Maybe they did it duped or not, they were like, it's an embarrassment.
Because, like I said, to the credit of MAGA people, not that I'm that, I don't vote.
I would have if Trump did anything that I thought he would.
They go, oh, they're trying to control how people use their SNAP, like their welfare, to buy soda.
They're like, don't say they can't buy soda, because RFK is poison.
joe rogan
American Heart Association fought it.
Did you know that?
Yeah. That's adorable.
American Heart Association fought poison.
Have some heart.
They're like, no.
Come on.
kurt metzger
But do you remember when these same stupid fucking conservatives were mad that they were spending their welfare on lobster?
Remember that?
They're buying lobster with welfare.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
kurt metzger
You never heard of this?
No. Well, Reagan did it first with the welfare fat queen that gets in her Cadillac and buys lobster with your welfare.
joe rogan
What? Really?
kurt metzger
Oh, he was the best, that guy.
Then... Oh, the greatest president.
And then, after that, I would hear this come up.
This was a few years ago, something about wealth.
It's always like, oh yeah, that's where we're losing all our money, on the welfare.
We are.
Not for this country, though, just so you know.
joe rogan
Well, the idea, I think, of the snap thing is to incur lobster and steak food stamp myth refuses to die.
So do you know why they're doing it?
1976 campaign speech.
In Chicago, they found a woman who holds the record, he told the assembled crowd.
She used 80 names, 30 addresses, 15 telephone numbers to collect food stamps, social security, veterans benefits for four non-existent deceased veteran husbands, as well as welfare.
Her tax-free income alone has been running $150,000 a year.
Sounds like this lady's pretty cool.
Reagan's story turned out- It's about to be a gross exaggeration of a minor case of welfare fraud.
Well, I don't know who to believe because I want to believe that she pulled this off because I think it's kind of badass.
If you're going to duck the welfare system, doing it with 80 different people is kind of fucking hilarious in 1976.
$150K in 1976.
What do you think that is today in today's money?
kurt metzger
He combined her with a CIA op, I'm sure.
joe rogan
How much is that in today's money, Jamie?
Let's guess.
$150,000.
I say that's $2.7 million.
kurt metzger
I think you're right.
And I think I could put on a transgender play in Guatemala with that money.
joe rogan
Get you fun, Sesame Street.
Can you find out what that is?
jamie vernon
$840,000 or so.
joe rogan
That's it?
Oh, I thought it would be millions.
So we've been lied to about inflation.
kurt metzger
Wait, so the soda people...
jamie vernon
It's only worth $853, but that's if you just left it in the bank, I guess, and never did anything with it.
joe rogan
Oh, interesting.
That's kind of crazy.
kurt metzger
Wait, so the soda people, so they're mad that welfare people are getting things.
Now, this fake thing that they try to filter through MAGA is, don't tell people that they can't spend their money on what they want.
Well, it's welfare money.
Can they buy lobster again?
Asshole. And they go, Trump likes Diet Coke.
And they gave them a list, just like that list you showed me, of emotional buttons to try to push.
And people did believe in Maha.
In fairness to the RFK...
joe rogan
People still do.
kurt metzger
Well, he learned there's a bigger threat to American health, which is anti-Semitism.
Not the fluoride.
That fluoride thing, which I didn't believe, it turns out is real.
joe rogan
Utah just banned fluoride.
kurt metzger
Did they?
joe rogan
Yep. They just banned fluoride.
kurt metzger
They just banned sexual ritual abuse, too.
unidentified
No, they didn't.
kurt metzger
Yes, they did.
joe rogan
Did they really?
kurt metzger
Yeah, because...
joe rogan
You had to ban that?
That's not already illegal?
kurt metzger
You would think.
joe rogan
I thought that's...
unidentified
Dude, the lawyer...
joe rogan
I thought that's in the law.
kurt metzger
That story is crazy, because it's DA.
So some creep...
joe rogan
Let's get on the fluoride thing for a second before we scatter.
Huberman had a great episode of his podcast with this woman who's a doctor who discussed the impact of fluoride.
Maybe that explains Florida.
kurt metzger
There's Florida in the water.
unidentified
Maybe that explains Florida and fluoride are pretty fucking close.
joe rogan
That might be it.
That might be it.
We might have stumbled onto something.
kurt metzger
It was like chemical waste from I don't know who.
joe rogan
Well, it's just fucking crazy.
But the thing is that it's a known neurotoxin and there's no reason for it to be in the fucking water.
And yet there's still people that are saying it should be in the water.
There's these crazy fucking...
It impacts dental health of impoverished people and shut the fuck up.
kurt metzger
Well, check where their money comes from.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, these are the same people.
I mean, this is like the whole fucking sugar and sweets thing.
Why do you think they're getting so many cavities?
Why is anybody getting so many cavities?
kurt metzger
That's right.
joe rogan
Because we're eating some shit you're not supposed to be eating.
kurt metzger
So when we were doing this...
And they're talking about what if they make all their money off poor people spending welfare on soda because my girlfriend when she saw she goes who still drinks soda?
Oh people on welfare.
So most of their budget just like if your budget came from running a prison full of convicts, the people are from people spending their SNAP benefits on soda that kills them and they don't want to lose that income.
joe rogan
It's like billions.
Well they also recognize the influence that these companies that sell this stuff have on these These different commissions that decide what gets...
Like the American Heart Association gets funded by some of these companies, which is crazy.
kurt metzger
You just gotta buy it.
That's why they...
Is that true?
joe rogan
Make sure that's true.
Because I read that.
The American Heart Association receives funding from like...
It was like soda companies and...
kurt metzger
If a three-letter agency of any kind, is there any of them that aren't bought out by some fucking psychopath?
joe rogan
They have to.
They make little deals.
They do things.
They donate.
They rub shoulders.
Oh, that's why everything's working out good.
kurt metzger
That's why everything's so good, because they have to do that.
joe rogan
If you want to be in the country club...
kurt metzger
I do.
joe rogan
You gotta play the game, Kurt.
You can't keep...
unidentified
Golf? You can't keep rocking the boat!
joe rogan
Stop rocking the boat, Kurt!
kurt metzger
No, a blind eye will serve you better.
You were kind.
joe rogan
Is it true before we wrap this up?
Is it true what I just said?
jamie vernon
I mean, the article that popped up says...
I'm trying to see it more accurately.
This was in 2010-16.
They did receive funding from them, but that's when the article was written.
joe rogan
Of course they did.
Of course they received funding from him.
Everybody's receiving funding from somebody.
Everybody's slipping someone a little.
Get in the door.
Give Bobby a hundred, you're in.
jamie vernon
This article from 2016 says they...
joe rogan
Coke, Pepsi provides sponsorship money to American ACC, AHA, and 93 other health organizations.
kurt metzger
Well, why would that affect it?
joe rogan
American College of Cardiology gets money from a fucking company that makes heart attack drinks.
American Heart Association, American Diabetes!
unidentified
American Diabetes Association gets money from Coke, Pepsi.
kurt metzger
Yeah, from diabetes in a can.
joe rogan
Coca-Cola Company sponsored 95 national health organizations.
Why, PepsiCo sponsored 13. The end of 2015, the ACC, Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, American Academy of Pediatrics, and American Academy of Family Physicians did not renew their contracts with Coca-Cola.
So they realized, like, this is out of control.
kurt metzger
They realized they couldn't get away with renewing their contracts.
joe rogan
Outrageous. We're getting in trouble.
kurt metzger
It's healthy as long as you flap your arms a thousand times a minute like a hummingbird.
joe rogan
You just need 10,000 steps.
Put a Fitbit on.
kurt metzger
Start walking.
Yeah, just drink and have a nice Coke.
joe rogan
Yes, you're going to be fine.
Kurt Metzger, I love you to death.
kurt metzger
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
Thanks very much for being here.
kurt metzger
Thanks, man.
joe rogan
This is like you and I in the green room all over again.
How many of these conversations have we had?
unidentified
I only moved down here because of that.
kurt metzger
I only moved down here.
You and I have club.
I like Austin, but until the club was here.
I wouldn't move.
unidentified
It's the best.
kurt metzger
I need the store, the seller.
Oh, we need it.
joe rogan
We need it.
Yeah, and I'm glad you're around, brother.
kurt metzger
You too, man.
Thank you very much.
joe rogan
Thank you.
My pleasure.
unidentified
All right.
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