Dan Richards and Joe Rogan explore the Ark of the Covenant’s alleged radiation properties, questioning why gamma signatures go undetected despite satellite capabilities, while debating ancient tech claims like uranium-rich stones or transformer-like structures—though Dan cautions against clickbait theories. They critique scientific gatekeeping, from dismissed megalithic "nubs" to Egyptian mummies testing positive for cocaine and nicotine via mass spectrometry, suggesting suppressed evidence of pre-Columbian contact or lost advanced civilizations. Skepticism clashes with fringe theories like the Nephilim or giant hominins, while both mock mainstream resistance to paradigm-shifting discoveries, leaving open the possibility that history’s mysteries are buried under dogma—or literally, in cases like Göbekli Tepe’s halted excavations. [Automatically generated summary]
Anytime they won't let you see the evidence, I get like all of my alarm bells go off, right?
But I understand why they wouldn't want you to see it if it really is the Ark.
I'd like to see, I guess the best thing we could do to test it without seeing the Ark would be to look into the claims that these guys go blind and they show signs of radiation.
Yeah, let's explain to everybody what the claim, that they believe that this one church in Ethiopia actually possesses the Ark of the Covenant and that these priests that are supposedly guarding this, they all exhibit signs of radiation poisoning.
But there's a lot of evidence in that book that was really interesting, like the Knights Templar statues and stuff in old Paris cathedrals that would lead Graham to Ethiopia, just all kinds of weird stuff that made it really interesting.
Well, something that has that much radiation that kills people so quickly, wouldn't that be something that you could measure from outside of the church?
Because that was one of the speculations about the New Jersey drones, which was really weird.
There was allegedly – this is part of speculation.
Allegedly, there was a warhead that was missing from when – what was it?
From Ukraine?
I think it was from like quite a while ago.
So there was a warhead that was not accounted for, a nuclear warhead.
And the thought was that somehow or another it had gotten snuck into the United States.
And these drones had the capability to scan for gamma radiation and that they were looking for excess gamma radiation, which would indicate that this thing was there.
I was kind of worried about that because I went to see Mark Gagnon in...
In Brooklyn, I just was there last week, and I was like, man, I hope I don't see a bunch of dang drones in the sky and stuff still, because I've had that booked out for a couple of months.
I saw a lot of videos of them, and I saw a few guys talking about them that seemed somewhat credible on Twitter, but I didn't see guys that had talked about being weapons developers and stuff like that.
It's so easy nowadays to just bullshit your way through things and there's money in it, right?
I mean, you get clicks.
So it's like there's the days of it needing to be a government conspiracy in my mind are like way long gone.
If I pretend I see Bigfoot and I fake it good enough to get on Joe Rogan, well, man, I'm doing pretty fucking good now, ain't I? Yeah, you can make some money.
And I like that about your channel, that you are quite skeptical about a lot of things, even things that the people that are heretics of the archaeological world, they subscribe to, and you're like, eh, not so fast, which I think is great.
Like I was saying with the satellites, in all honesty, the feds monitor that kind of shit, like heavily.
So, I mean, if it's possible that it wouldn't be, you know, any kind of weapons-grade-y stuff, so they might just not be looking for that particularly.
I know that they can look for, I know they can look for, I'm not sure how they detect it, I'm not sure what they use to detect it, but I know that they can look for radioactive material from space.
So, the thought is that if this Ark of the Covenant is there, and whatever it is, is somehow radioactive, is there any sort of theory as to how they develop some sort of radioactive thing?
Like, what is it supposed to be?
I mean, it's not a reactor, it's in a box, right?
Like, what is it?
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Like in the Bible, it's described like shooting lightning and things like that.
And what Graham mentions in the book, it's an interesting point, is...
The Bible records Moses going up to Mount Sinai, coming down with the Ten Commandments, getting mad at the Israelites worshiping a golden calf, and he breaks the Ten Commandments and then goes back up the mountain and comes back down after another week or so with the Ten Commandments again.
And Graham points out that this could be a memory of him going up and getting the wrong stone.
Dammit, smashes it, goes back and finds the right stone that he's looking for, that it had uranium-rich or whatever speculative radiation stuff.
But inside of the box, a popular theory is you've got metal, wood, metal, like a transformer.
And so the popular theory is it's a way to generate electricity.
And it would also describe the way that guys in the Bible, if they touch it, they have to carry it with sticks.
And if they touch it, even to steady it, they get killed and stuff.
Honestly, I don't see it being a transformer.
That metal-wood-metal thing has to be stacked.
You're not just getting it with one layer like the Bible describes.
Okay, transformers at the bottom of it will have multiple plates.
It'll be like a plate of metal and then a plate of silicone or something like that that's conductive, non-conductive, conductive, non-conductive, and there'll be multiples of those, and this is part of the electromagnetic.
Because what a transformer does is it steps electricity up or down and swaps voltage for amperage basically.
The metal plates are part of it.
So the idea is that this thing would collect electricity inside the box and then the Israelites would use it to throw lightning at the enemies.
Now there's still a lot of speculation as to how the box would work, but Moses was also said to, after going up and seeing God, he was said to have had to cover his face with a cloth for the rest of his life because it was shown.
And Graham speculated in that book that it might be because of radiation sickness or something.
I watched a friend of mine working on an arcade machine once, and one of the leads popped off of the thing, and he was bald, and it tapped him on the top.
Yeah, that's what a capacitor is.
So some guys believe, like Billy Carson, would say that the Ark of the Covenant would fit inside of the sarcophagus of the King's Chamber, which it doesn't, and that it's a Capacitor to power the pyramid.
There's a possibility that I'm wrong there, but I know that the measurements are off by enough that it was like, this isn't just a little mix and match.
But if that's real, and these guys are just guarding it and dying of radiation poison, like, hey, get some fucking better leadership and let the world know.
I mean, if you really want people to believe in God and the Bible, what better way than to say, not only is the Ark of the Covenant real, but we have it here at this church in Ethiopia, and we've been suffering for the past X hundred years.
There's so much about the pyramids in general that are just so hard to even...
Like I mentioned a little bit last time we talked, the squaring of it is so, it's like 756 feet long and there's like two to three inch variation at the most.
So you're talking like thousandths of a percent on this massive thing.
And if you just stretch a rope from one end of this table to the other and hold it tight, it's going to sag a little.
You're 756 feet, you're not getting a two inch accurate measurement at that.
The argument, of course, would be this is the kind of stuff that would get looted right away, right?
If you watch Mad Max, they're not running around picking up bottle caps.
They're picking up the stuff you can use.
But on the flip side of that, the evidence, if you look at any one of your videos or mine that are about the pyramids, you're going to have thousands of comments of people that are like, here's my theory on the pyramids.
And most of these are pretty mundane.
Most of these are.
I think they might have used water, too.
We kind of need to exhaust, in my mind, we kind of need to exhaust all that mundane shit that people can throw at this problem before we really can start saying, okay, now let's just step outside of history and speculate harder.
I'm willing to entertain the things, but if you really want to find out what happened, in my mind, you kind of have to be more grounded with it.
Well, I think if we're looking at a linear timeline between the technology that was available to people, say, 15,000 years ago and today, then yeah.
Then you have to look at it in a more mundane way because obviously they didn't have electricity then.
You're thinking obviously they didn't have diamond tip cutting tools that were made out of like some super titanium or whatever the fuck the alloy was.
But if we're looking at lost technology and if we're looking at the possibility of, you know, when you get into Graham Hancock stuff, specifically the Younger Dryas impact theory, which...
I'm always fascinated by both the people that fully support it and the people that fully dismiss it.
Both of those things are interesting to me because you don't know.
The piece that was cut out was how it was carbon dated.
And I forget what the carbon date it was.
It wasn't that extraordinary.
Hundreds of years, I think, right?
It was only hundreds of years, right?
Or maybe a couple thousand.
I forget what it was.
But the fact that it was sawed at the top was very interesting.
Some of the bones they've dated to tens of thousands of years, including animals that they've found bones of that weren't even supposed to be in this area.
So he has an enormous piece of land, but a small piece of it, I think it's only about six acres, where they're finding an enormous number of woolly mammoth bones.
Short-faced bear, all these different lions, and all these different animals that some of them they didn't even think were in Alaska.
10-15 thousand years ago and there's also a thick layer of dark carbon that indicates that like something happened like there was some sort of massive burn and the theory is that there was an enormous flood and that this was a basin where a lot of these animals that died got washed into and then covered so they have this wall that is essentially permafrost and they hose it down They do it all the time, and then they see a mammoth tusk, and then they slowly work their way out.
Go to his Instagram page.
Every year he's our last guest, but this year he got pneumonia.
So we had to delay him until recently.
But this is all stuff that they find.
He's a gold miner.
So this is all stuff that they find on his property.
Well, it started out incidentally, and now they search for it.
That's John right there in the middle with the baseball hat on.
And he wanted to come on here to spread it out to the world.
One of the things that he found out was that they dumped the previous owners of his property before he owned it.
What museum was it again, Jamie?
American National History Museum in New York City had acquired some of the bones, and they had so much of them that they dumped some of them in the East River.
Now, they denied it, so he sent divers out.
To the exact spot in the East River and they started pulling up step bison bones and all these different...
Like, ancient, ancient animal bones from this exact area where they said to look for it.
So it's pretty much been confirmed that it's true.
And he does know that they have some of them still, and they won't release them to him.
So until they release the bones to him that are rightfully his, he's like, fuck off.
But his spot, in my opinion, is one of the best indicators that there was a mass casualty event.
There was some sort of a huge catastrophe that took place that killed all of these animals.
Now, we know that humans were around back then.
The question was...
How sophisticated were they?
And this is where it all gets so weird, you know, because I've been following this forever and ever and ever.
And I was following it long before they discovered Gobekli Tepe.
And so the question was that the archaeologists would always, the really arrogant archaeologists, would always throw in the faces of these heretics.
They would say, well, if this is true, where's the evidence of this ancient civilization that was so sophisticated that can make massive stone structures 10,000 years ago?
There is no evidence.
Well, now there is.
So now they have to kind of look.
Look at it and go, well, okay, we're wrong about that.
But we're still – we know 2,500 B.C. maximum, that's how old the pyramids are.
They don't – a lot of the scientists, most of the scientists are actually scientists.
But the ones that we end up seeing are the ones that are invested in creating a narrative.
They're the ones that they want to – Make sure that pseudo-archaeology and pseudoscience is always on its back foot and never gets a fair day in court, blah, blah, blah.
These guys, they don't give us any real accurate interpretation of the data.
They'll step way outside of their lane to tell you what's going on.
Well, you were the guy that broke down what he was inaccurate about when he was having that air quotes debate with Graham Hancock.
Well, yeah.
It's all very unfortunate because what he does know is really interesting.
All that stuff about ancient seeds and stuff and how they change over the time and, you know, how you can tell whether a sea is domesticated versus whether it's feral.
He's good at what he does, at least as far as that stuff goes.
Like, there was another—there's a guy that's a trained anthropologist that made a couple of videos about him, Sam Urban from Illegitimate Scholar, and he—I think Graham mentioned him here before.
He's a—he specialized in underwater shipwrecks, and he just blasted the stuff that Flint said, not just the three million shipwrecks.
But there's a difference, and this is like what you alluded to it a minute ago, where it's like there's a difference between saying we know for a fact and we're not sure.
Yeah.
You know, a common atheist argument, if you talk like Richard Dawkins, he'll say, the minute that a scientist says God did it, they're not worth a fuck to me in the lab because they're not working anymore.
They're like, I've got the answer.
That's the same thing as the science is settled.
If you say, the science is done, we know for a fact.
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And Egypt, to me, is one of the most phenomenal of all the mysteries, one of the most fascinating, because whatever happened, however long ago, those people in Africa did something that no one's been able to do since.
And they did it in a way that defies...
Our understanding, not just of what they could do back then, but of what people could ever do, including right now.
That shit was so old that you look on the Osirion, they say that there's graffiti that's like the sacred geometry shit that was Hermeticism that was popular in Greece.
So they're seeing Hermeticist stuff with the sacred geometry on it.
And that's like, you know, thousands of years later.
The new iPhones, well, I think the Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra and the X24 Ultra have the longest battery life in comparison to iPhone.
Like, you know, they do those tests where they play, like, the Avengers, and they'll play it, like, nonstop on a loop to see which battery dies out quicker.
And the way that the cap is and stuff, you could potentially fill them with orange juice or something like that, a minor acid, and get an electric charge from it.
Now, it wouldn't be much of one, but you could do it.
And that's something that's worth noting right there is that you can, this has been, archaeologists have determined that, well, yeah, I mean, we don't like to admit it, but yes, these potentially could have been batteries, so.
There was a guy that did a debunking on it that's a popular YouTuber, and another archaeologist came around and kind of slapped him around a little bit, and he had to admit.
He's like, okay, yeah, I didn't do my research good.
So like plating things with gold and stuff like that.
Interesting.
So the real, the craziest theory of all, for sure, is the Christopher Dunn.
The Christopher Don theory about the actual pyramid itself, he believes it's a massive power plant.
And he believed that they were using some sort of chemicals and a certain frequency, like vibration, to generate hydrogen with all the chambers and all.
And, you know, the way he describes it...
It sounds very compelling because there's – I don't know what he's talking about.
He might be making it all up, right?
So the way he's saying it sounds so interesting.
I've never heard anybody try to break down whether or not what he's saying makes sense though.
I talk to him on the phone probably a couple times a month.
He's – and he knows that I disagree with him.
The thing that right off the bat, as an electrician, the first thing that stands out to me is the claim of getting piezoelectricity from the blocks, which piezoelectricity is the electricity you get from like a quartz crystal when you stress it, so like your watch or a charcoal igniter for a grill, right?
The igniter is just a piece of quartz that they pop it with a little spring and a stick when you pop it, and it's got a piece of metal on each side and wires, and that harnesses the charge.
That's the first thing, is each one of the quartz crystals in those big limestone blocks would have to have a piece of metal around it and wires coming off of it or some way of harnessing the electricity.
There's tons of natural electricity that happens all the time, right?
But you have to harness it in order to do something with it.
Well, there's definitely stuff we don't know about electricity.
I mean, we'll start there.
Clearly things we don't know about.
We still have guys working on the shit all the time and they're making better and better semiconductors and whatnot all the time.
But having said that, maybe?
But at that point, we're kind of like...
My thinking on that is if we're going to say this is a technological thing and here's the way we get there and then it's like, well, but we can't really do this.
Well, couldn't it be something else?
Well, at that point, why say that this is...
Why build a technological story from what we have?
One of the best ones is that the image of someone holding up something that either is a basket or looks like some sort of frequencies are emanating from some device.
That's one of my main hopes for AI, that AI will get so sophisticated that it can start deciphering these things in a more meaningful way, in a way where you could use, you know, these large language models.
Like, if we get, like, some, you know, like they have the Rosetta Stone, and the Rosetta Stone allowed them to decipher a lot of the ancient hieroglyphs.
Get some sort of much more comprehensive analysis of what they were trying to say with this stuff.
Of all the places in the world where I could go back in time and observe, you know, just somehow undetected, you know, if you get a, like a, some sort of a sphere of...
Yeah, well, how'd they do that?
What did their culture look like?
What did the people look like when they were going about their daily tasks?
You know, we used to think it was slaves that built the pyramid.
Now they think, no, they were skilled workers.
And they think that based on what their diet was, and they were eating good food, and these people were well taken care of that were involved in working around that area.
Yeah, that's one of the things that When they say that it's not slaves that built it, that kind of makes me chuckle because, yeah, we know that they had, you know, well-fed people that worked there, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they were the only people that worked there.
I mean, if you go down to construction over here, you're going to have a guy that's eating at Zip or eating at freaking Burger King or whatever, and you're going to have another guy who's eating a $300 lunch, and they're going to be working the same job site.
And that's where, like we were talking about how the archaeology and the archaeologists and pseudo guys will argue with each other so much about and it gets so bad blooded about it.
It's like, I talked about this a little bit last time, but...
I see it as two distinct halves of the human psyche at work in this regard.
You can almost see the distinction in the way that scientists tend to be antisocial.
Antisocial might not be the right word, but they're just a little fucking weird, man.
They're the kind of guys that dress weird, they talk weird, they act weird.
But then, well, you know, Alpha Centauri is about a billion years older than our star.
So if you were to a...
He would assume that they were around for a billion years longer than us and had the same stuff.
And so he would entertain them.
And then he would do things.
He would interject a little bit of science.
When they would ask a question, he would answer it and make sure that there was a little science in that so that people that really didn't give a fuck about learning about the science, they just want to talk about UFOs?
And then there's another image that goes along with this that's even more bizarre.
Maybe not even more bizarre, but it's like, almost looks like a cone, like a cone structure that's emanating from the surface, like surrounded by a circle.
Yeah, so it's all this one area that's been studied for a long time as being that there's a bunch of different things there that you could interpret as being some sort of a structure.
Yeah, if you could somehow or another make sense out of the possibility that a civilization existed on Mars and was wiped out millions and millions of years ago, that would change the way we think about everything.
And I feel like that square is one step closer.
To, like, really needing a comprehensive analysis of what's there.
Because before it was just like, oh, it's a lifeless planet, but at one time it had an atmosphere.
This is where that skeptics versus dreamers thing gets really fucked because the answer should be the same for everybody.
Let's just – next expedition.
Let's poke around a little up there, right?
Let's find out the evidence.
But the answer is always from one side, it's definitely this.
From the other side, it's definitely not – not completely, but to the point where we don't get – To draw a parallel with that Yonaguni, the underwater site that Graham Hancock likes to talk about.
The skeptics are certain that it's a geological formation.
Most of the other people are not.
We need work done.
The clear fucking answer is just put some money at it, put some bodies on it, and until then, the answer, in my mind, is when somebody asks me, what do I think about Yonaguni?
I say, well, it's interesting.
It's probably been eroded for a long time, so it might be...
Man-made and just looks naturally.
It might be natural.
We need more evidence before I'm going to hang my hat anywhere.
This is the stuff, it's like other people that, you know, if you say that the rocks are geopolymers in Sacsayhuaman or whatever, it's like, there's no reason for us to argue about this, man.
If you want to go really crazy with like the John Anthony West version of it, which is like 30,000 plus years, that's probably what you would have left over.
There's a thought tool that archaeologists use called the Silurian hypothesis.
And Silurian is like this Doctor Who bad guy that was...
Went into hibernation.
There were lizards.
They went into hibernation like before the dinosaurs died out.
And then they wake up one day and there's all these monkeys running around on their planet.
But that's the Doctor Who thing, right?
But the Silurian hypothesis is basically a thought tool for archaeologists and historians to say, well, if there was an advanced civilization on Earth 10 million years ago...
What will we need to find in order for it to exist?
Or what would we find now, 10 million years later?
And the answer is usually like radioactive material.
It's like 10 million years, man.
You might find a couple of bones, but the odds of finding anything that's going to actually prove that they had technology?
The video that you sent me yesterday, the one with the stone nubs, they talked about holes.
All those, I can't say for all of the sites, but like the Coliseum and stuff, they used metal to bond the bricks together and the concrete together in places.
So years later...
When the city's under attack and they need metal to make swords, they looted it.
I mean, there's a technique called a lifting boss that's used to lift big things like that.
But there's a couple of issues with that being the only reason that they're used.
For one, a lot of times they're small like that and they wouldn't really do you much good.
For two, a lot of times we see them like on the lids of a coffin, for example, which you wouldn't want to leave it there afterwards because you don't want to facilitate them.
The next guy to be able to pop the coffin lid, right?
You say that they're small, but if you were trying to place something exactly and you were lifting it up from the bottom, the only way you would be able to do that is if you had something like a nub sticking on the outside of it.
Right, but if you wanted to get it to sit down without having to pull out whatever's underneath it or whatever underneath it getting crushed, wouldn't you want something to assist you like that little nub?
The rest of the walls, a lot of times, I mean, the stones are fitted so well together, clearly they knew how to make these stones flat as fuck.
Why is this part...
Still got this big tit hanging off of it.
It's weird.
Despite the title of my video saying the true purpose, that's just clickbait.
Nobody knows.
The best mainstream explanation would be lifting bosses.
The most common alternate history explanation is usually like a leftover from the...
Concrete being pulled out like the guy on the video was saying or it's like if you have a bag of concrete and it's just like the one little spot that kind of seeps out.
But, like, he gives the money to these people to, like, restore all these mummies, and the first thing that they do is they restore a bunch of textiles that other mummies that they don't have anymore were, like, packed in and shit.
It's just...
Even all the way up into the 60s, an anthropologist opened, like, 70-some-odd bundles.
Recorded what he found in four of them and put the rest back on the fucking shelf.
They've been stealing artifacts and selling them on the open market.
They just announced this January, archaeologists have discovered that there are tunnels running under Cusco and Peru.
They connect the Temple of the Sun to the fortress of Sacsayhuaman and some other places around there.
Oh, this is crazy.
It's going to be great, man.
We did all this LiDAR.
It's going to be amazing.
Amazing discovery.
Fucking Brian Forrester uploaded a video like 11 years ago of him going on a tour of those tunnels.
You could pay a guide 20 years ago to go on a tour of those tunnels.
The Spanish were writing about them in the 1600s and the late 1500s.
The only reason that we didn't investigate these tunnels is because in the 30s was when archaeology started becoming a thing and going down there and checking out those skulls and shit.
And at the exact same time, Madame Blavatsky and Edgar Cayce was like, you know, those tunnels that are supposed to be down there, I bet they were built by the Atlanteans.
And so ever since then, archaeologists have poo-pooed it.
There was a guy in the 2000s, he's an Atlantis hunter, he did ground-penetrating radar in the early 2000s, found those tunnels, they rejected his work.
He had a priest that witnessed those tunnels, has been down in them.
He was rejected out of hand.
But that's okay, because 25 years later, we found it.
I promise they didn't steal or sell anything in the last hundred years, that the world knew that these things existed, rich people were going down there and throwing money around, and there was zero safeguards.
So, to circle back to the aliens there, it's like, I have a real problem with that shit in Peru, because I can't...
But that, to me, is always the problem whenever it comes to alien stuff.
I want it to be real.
So that part of my brain, I have to go, hey, stupid.
Just because this is an x-ray doesn't mean this is legit.
By the way, I can make you a fake x-ray pretty easy online these days.
It wouldn't be hard at all.
But these x-rays are so compelling that if they are legitimate x-rays, if someone really did just piece this together with a bunch of random bones, what a fantastic job they did because it doesn't look awkward at all.
And we know, I mean, like, we know that humans existed with a bunch of other hominids on this planet for a long time, so it wouldn't be, like, for us to discover a new species, even if they weren't aliens, wouldn't be crazy.
Metallic plates have been found throughout other areas of the mummy's bodies from the interior covering some of the bones to external attachments on the skin forming a bifunctional implant with no signs of rejection.
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The really weird ones were the x-rays of the body in that position where you see all the skull and the way the skull is formed and the way the fingers are formed.
Like, find one of them things, bring it to America, and let's do a live stream of scientists actually analyzing it so it doesn't get gatekeeped at all.
She was just talking about what she found inside of one of those mummy bundles with the elongated skulls and the artifacts that would be in there, the grave goods and stuff.
The thing about the elongated skulls is that some of them have a larger capacity, which is interesting.
So it's not simply, like, because we know that there's a technique that they do with young children where they put boards on the side of their heads and they flatten their head.
You can actually form someone's head.
But that's not necessarily what was being done here.
The kind of nuanced argument is that some of them were legitimate aliens or other species or whatever, and then some of them were people trying to emulate that with their own kids.
Right, like that it was a status symbol to have that elongated head, and some people tried to fake it and pretend.
Maybe it was just a genetic anomaly, right?
Some sort of bizarre, like we talked about this, the people that are born, there's a certain tribe in Africa where a bunch of them have only two toes, and they look like ostrich feet.
If you could develop people that were a bunch of them, or it's a gene that can spread, like you can pass it on, that you could have something where people had a larger head and a weird-shaped head.
If it offered any sort of advantage at all, you know, and you might think, well, how could that be?
A problem, but if it offered any sort of advantage, like the, you know, the Galapagos Islands, right?
The iguanas there that go down and swim in the water and eat moss off the bottom, they all got webbed feet.
So, it...
It stands to reason to me that whatever happened that isolated Galapagos and made it a shitty place to try to find food for an iguana, you got one of these iguanas, it's a little mutant McNugget running around, and he's got webbed toes already, and he's like, fuck, man, nobody wants to hang out with me because I look all weird.
But then this happens, and all of a sudden he's the only guy that can consistently get food.
Well, those weird adaptations take place quicker than they thought.
And a good example of that is the Congo.
You know, there's parts of the Congo where there's an amazing BBC documentary about it.
It was a multiple-disc CD, DVD, rather, thing that I had back in the day.
And this Congo documentary, one of the things they found was there was a lot of plains animals that got trapped in the Congo.
So the Congo...
Because of the change of the climate there, at one point in time, it was plains, so it was grasslands.
So you have all these antelope and all these different animals that normally exist in these open, wide areas, but they're jammed into a rainforest now, and they've adapted.
And one of the animals that adapted is the diker.
So the diker is a small antelope that can swim underwater for as much as 100 yards and eats fish.
You get a great example of like, like you probably heard them say that like the dinosaurs get wiped out and allowed mammals the opportunity to take over the planet.
Like otherwise mammals would have just been a bunch of shrews running around in the grass.
And that's that exact kind of thing.
It's like that lemur ain't going to outcompete woodpeckers, but he don't have to.
The mountains that they have in South America where they've got, basically it's like the same as an island where it's like nothing can go down from a certain elevation.
So like there's a bunch of things that live up in the mountains that are basically evolutionary isolated and have been for 10,000, 20,000 years.
And so you've got a bunch of goofy...
Species that are only...
Next mountain over, they're a little bit different.
Next mountain over, they're a little bit different.
Same as the finches that Darwin was chasing around in the early days.
The sheer variety of life forms that we know are real.
And what's interesting is things that are cryptic, cryptozoology type deals, people are so dismissive of them.
But I'm like, by God, there's so much that's real.
There's so much that's real.
Like, one of my favorites is the little hobbit man from the island of Flores, because that was dismissed forever.
That was just nonsense until a couple decades ago.
They're like, oh, hey, okay, we just found something that's like a little tiny person, a little three-foot person that's not us, you know, but it's bipedal, and it seems to have worked with tools and hunted.
It's kind of fucked because even though I know that those guys, like I was saying earlier, are socially awkward and probably emotionally stunted quite frequently, can't even suss their own feelings.
But at the same time, it's like science is the whole fucking expedition, the whole undertaking, the whole reason you do it.
Is to see clearly, and when trying to get rid of, Joe has an opinion, Jamie has an opinion, Dan has an opinion, they're all different, but if we all see the same thing, we can be pretty sure that this is real.
But if I see it different than you, than Jamie, well now...
Truth is the most valuable thing if you're speaking openly about something.
If you're talking about something publicly, truth is the most important thing.
As soon as you are willing to violate truth to preserve something else, like your status, your ego, your place in the hierarchy of information, well, now I can't...
I don't listen to you anymore because I know you're willing to lie.
And let's be honest, like, it's the kind of thing that, it's reminiscent of the, forget the congressman that asked Mark Zuckerberg how Facebook makes money.
It's just like they're so, you're so detached from the modern world.
It's like you, you can spend millions of dollars on all your ad campaign all across YouTube, or you can just go sit in the room with Joe for three hours, and I'll tell you which one's going to do better for you, lady.
The problem is that I think the people that saw it as – they thought they were going to win anyway apparently.
And the people that saw it as a negative thought like there's been a few blunders where things didn't go well.
But I think a lot of those blunders are – I was listening to this woman on the Tucker Carlson show and she was talking about what Biden was like during the presidency.
And one of the things that she said I thought that was very interesting was that – There's many people that worked with Biden that said there were moments in his first couple of years where he was very lucid and that he would be actually running the meetings and he had talking points that were written down, but he was having these lucid conversations.
And then he would do these public things and he would have blunders.
I think a lot of it is just the pressure of performing publicly under intense scrutiny.
Like if you have to do a live set, like say if you have to do Saturday Night Live or something like that, and you're going to do a monologue, the pressure of doing that monologue is so much different than the pressure of just going up at a local comedy club.
Joe Biden, as much as, you know, I'm sure he has a...
High self-opinion, clearly.
When he is confronted by the reality that half the country hates him and thinks he's doing a terrible job and then he has to talk publicly live, then I think those cognitive problems were sort of elevated.
You know, like there was a moment where me and Trump were, I was saying, tell me how the 2020 election was stolen.
Like, and I feel like if you're, for the last four years, have been telling everybody that they robbed you, you should be able to tell people how you know they robbed you, and you should be able to say it.
You should be able to communicate with people in a way that it's just about what you're talking about.
It's a shitty tactic to try to break a person down as a human being because you want to enforce your argument or say their argument sucks because they suck as a human being too.
It really is, and I'm glad we took that little side trip because I had to explain that.
But the thing is, that little monster rears its ugly head in everything.
It doesn't just rear its ugly head in politics.
It rears its ugly head in archaeology, in religion, in culture, in everything we do.
A lot of it is, I have said this for so long, I don't want to ever say I was wrong, and I will somehow or another...
Derail any arguments against me.
I will call those people racist.
I will call those people racist.
I was watching one of your videos where there's this person who listened to what Flint Dibble said about Graham Hancock and Atlantis and connecting Atlantis to white supremacy.
And she made the most distorted statement that's saying that people of color were not capable.
That this is the argument of the people that support Atlantis.
People of color, we're not capable of that sort of civilization, which literally no one has ever said.
Because everybody, especially the people that believe that that area of sub-Saharan Africa, the Reichert.
They were the ones that started seeing—they're the first ones to see the similarities between these things.
And so they believed that, you know, ancient Egypt is this technologically superior place.
And here we've seen the same thing here with similar iconography.
So— I made a video explaining that the letter that the Society for American Archaeology wrote to Netflix to call Graham Hancock a racist, basically, not call him a racist.
Fuck you guys.
It was wrong.
It was erroneous.
It contained false information.
And I pointed that out and eventually Flint's...
He addressed it and his argument was, well, it doesn't really matter.
It's not a big deal.
We use the word comet and Graham talks about a comet and this other guy didn't.
And it doesn't really matter because so many white supremacists believe this shit anyway.
And it was just like – at that point, I was kind of like, OK, this isn't science anymore.
And then I watched him do that waffle and bullshit here where he did it with – when you were pushing him on it and he's like, no, I didn't say that.
There are so many people that are used to being in a position of authority where they're never questioned like that.
And they can say that in front of a class or they can say that in front of colleagues and nobody pushes back.
And then there's also this problem with leftist ideology where if someone – if there is some sort of history at any point in time of white supremacy like that Ignatius Donnelly guy, like you have to connect even everything.
Attached to the theories of this advanced city, this advanced lost civilization, you have to attach it to white supremacy or you are a racist.
Or you're enabling, or you're a dog whistling, which is my favorite.
That's way crazier because whatever Atlantis had, it didn't survive whatever that...
If that Reichardt structure, if that's really where it is and it was impacted by the Great Flood, by the end of the Younger Dryas, the impact theory, the water from all the polar caps rushes through and destroys everything, giant tsunamis everywhere because of the global cataclysm.
Okay, well, it wasn't as good because if that's...
The pyramids are still standing?
So all that shit happened at the same time the pyramids, too.
So what you're saying, if you really believe all that, is that the pyramids were way more advanced than Atlantis.
And believing in Atlantis is crazy.
Help me out!
And it's white supremacy, even though it's in the same part of the fucking world.
It's just this poo-poo attitude that really, it does them a huge disservice because ultimately the most interested amateurs on the planet would be us, pyramid idiots, guys that are into that kind of goofy shit.
We're the most interested, just like Carl Sagan knew his audience.
The most interested people in space were the UFO crowd.
The most interested people in archaeology are not archaeology students.
That's their 9 to 5. I'm the one that's reading the shit at 2 o'clock in the morning with the beer in my hand.
I love this shit.
But I don't want to...
You're going to bore me if you talk about stratigraphy.
That wants to go to all the details and stuff and listen, you know, these guys like Fauci get up there and start talking, you know, he doesn't know anything really about anything, and I'd say that to his face.
Nothing.
The man thinks you can take a blood sample and stick it in an electron microscope, and if it's got a virus in there, you'll know it.
He doesn't understand electron microscopy, and he doesn't understand medicine, and he should not be in a position like he's in.
Most of those guys up there on the top are just total...
Administrative people, and they don't know anything about what's going on at the bottom.
You know, those guys have got an agenda, which is not what we would like them to have, being that we pay for them to take care of our health in some way.
They've got a personal kind of agenda.
They make up their own rules as they go.
They change them when they want to, and they smugly, like Tony Fauci, does not mind going on television in front of the people who pay his salary and lie directly into the camera.
If the vaccine worked, give it to the people that are vulnerable.
Let everybody else live their life.
That makes the most sense.
But they couldn't do that.
They had to pretend that the other people were vulnerable.
They had to pretend that children were dying of it.
They talked about it all the time.
No healthy children died of it.
It's not true.
They tried to pretend that it was really dangerous for young people.
It wasn't.
Unless they were already really sick.
What it exposed in this country is that there are a lot of people that are completely full of shit that are in charge of telling us what the truth is.
And that also...
We're really vulnerable in terms of our health.
Our health is very vulnerable.
Our economy is very vulnerable.
We can't just shut the country down for a year and a half.
It doesn't work like that.
We're vulnerable.
It destroyed a lot of businesses.
It destroyed people's lives.
It caused so many people to become drug addicts, so many people to commit suicide.
There's a loss of life and a loss of hope, and who knows what it's going to do to these young children that have had to wear masks when they're in preschool.
Who knows what the fuck that does to you?
Learning how to talk with a mask on.
You're not reading mouths and lips, and you're not getting a full facial feature.
To read off like built children need for their development We found out that there's a lot of people that just aren't telling you the fucking truth And the crazy thing is they were doing it in the age of the internet because they had been used to doing it for so long They they didn't develop the thing that people have now like now like especially someone like you or I who does stuff on YouTube You know that if you say something and it's not true, you've got to go back and say, hey, this is what I thought.
This is why I thought it.
But now I know that this isn't true.
Because if you don't do that, no one's ever going to fucking trust you again.
Anthony Fauci, in the beginning of the pandemic, like, don't wear a mask.
This is in 1986. You can't just go and tell us some shit, and we don't know whether or not you said something completely contrary to that just a month ago.
And if you want to be real cynical, the people that are the real progressive leftists, you should be cynical about that because it was the biggest transfer of wealth in the history of the United States.
The lower class, lower and middle class lost $3.9 billion or trillion.
Was it trillion?
What was the transfer?
It might have been trillion.
I think it was like $3.9 trillion over the course of the pandemic.
And then that money was transferred to the wealthiest people gained that money.
How?
What happened?
Stocks?
Mutual funds?
What magic are you doing?
You basically stole money.
Like, something happened, and through your policies, you enabled the wealthiest people to get way wealthier and the poorer people to get way poorer.
So either way, let's be conservative and say it's 3 trillion.
That's a crazy amount of money that gets transferred and no one is like freaked out that this was by policies and this is by keeping everybody's business shut down.
You could basically just take over because people still need to buy stuff.
And then these big companies that people have stock in, the stock goes way up and then everybody gets wealthier.
This is kind of nuts.
The progressives are outraged in this idea that it was protecting your health.
In my mind, one of the biggest things was the trust in the scientific community that they're being honest.
And again, I like science.
I like science a lot.
And I don't...
I think that just like most activists and most anything, like when you look online and you see a transgender person that's making a complete ass of themselves, that's, generally speaking, not indicative of the way transgender people are, even on the fucking internet, Matt.
Otherwise, you wouldn't be seeing that person, right?
Clovis First is the theory that the first people in the Americas came over the Bering Land Bridge like 14,000-15,000 years ago, and they used the Clovis points, and this was the first American humans.
Before that, there was no people here.
Now, they started finding sites at 30,000 years old, 25,000 years old, and they started fucking with that narrative, and archaeologists were...
For the most part, pushing heavily against it.
There were a few scientists that would make the fines and that they would fight for them.
Now, one, eventually it's been overturned.
Now that Clovis First is not the narrative anymore.
They're not really sure exactly who got here first.
They know the Burying Land Bridge was part of it, but they also think there was some people probably from the ocean in South America.
Who knows for sure?
It's up in the air.
They're not so certain anymore.
But the Clovis First debate...
It was so bad that the guy that won it, basically, a site in Chile called Monte Verde was the site that eventually he had a bunch of people there.
They looked at the site and when they left, they were convinced that that was the end of the debate for all intents and purposes.
The guy that discovered that site and was excavating it, Tom Dillehay, was living in Chile.
Under the time that Pinochet was in charge of Chile.
One of his colleagues, and there's video of this, I use this clip frequently, one of his colleagues called the state newspaper and said Monteverde is a CIA-planted site in order to get him down into Chile.
Archaeologist Tom Dillehay was instrumental in overturning Clovis First with his excavations at Monte Verde, but this caused him to have his life threatened by his own colleagues.
His excavations were done in Chile during the reign of the ruthless dictator Pinochet.
Clovis First was hotly debated amongst archaeologists at the time, and one of them decided to use Pinochet as a means to silence Tom.
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Moved down to Chile during the dictatorship years of Pinochet, so I was opening up anthropology departments, so politically it was difficult at that time.
And another colleague who sent a letter to the newspaper in Chile, one of the major newspapers, saying that Monteverdi was the creation of the CIA to plant me down there.
And, you know, that...
It puts you and your family in a dangerous situation in a country like that at that time.
And they'll try to pretend, Flint tried to pretend that that was no big deal.
That was a one-off.
You know, scientific debates happen, and a lot of guys will say, oh, yeah, that Clovis First, it was bad, but we don't usually do that, dude.
Before Clovis First, there was...
The Folsom first debate.
The idea that the Folsom people were the first ones here.
And if you found anything older than, I think, 7,000 years or 3,000 years, whatever it was, anything older than a Folsom culture thing.
It was bullshit and you couldn't have a feel.
It's on Wikipedia still.
You could read about there's a couple of guys that basically formed a guard and didn't let anything get past that point until eventually the Clovis first thing.
It's not the first time.
This is standard operating procedure.
Create a paradigm.
Defend it with life and death.
There's a guy named...
Max Planck, he was a Nobel Prize winning physicist, and he has Planck's principle, it's known as, and it is science does not progress one discovery at a time, it progresses one funeral at a time.
But that's where it does frustrate me because if you take that job...
It's like, okay, if me and you get in a fight, it's aggressive and you get worked up and you get emotional, but if you become a cop, I expect you to fucking know that and roll that shit back.
And it's the same thing with the scientists.
I expect you to recognize that and roll that shit back.
The whole idea of the truth is what we all should be pursuing.
And it's just really unfortunate that people are attached to these things that they've said for so long, so much that they're willing to go out of their way to prove someone inaccurate when they are accurate.
And the Clovis first thing is one of the better examples of that.
And now that there's irrefutable evidence like the footprints that they found in New Mexico that have seeds in them that are 22 plus thousand years old.
And now he pointed out that on Easter Island that the platform that the biggest, oldest, whatever, Moai or whatever they're called...
That platform, the polygonal masonry strongly resembled what he saw in Peru, to the point where he hypothesized that these were connected.
And this was just mocked by archaeologists for the longest time.
Now, not only do they have genetic evidence in the form of human DNA, with a solid genetic drift from South America heading out into Polynesia as well, but Easter Island has breadfruit, has ginger, and...
A couple of sweet potato.
It's got food from both Asia and South America and the oldest habited layers that they've found.
It's like, I want to say like 1,200 or 1,800 years ago.
It's not real, real old, but it's old enough that like the oldest place that they've excavated and found that the first people, it looks like the first people that showed up there came there.
From Asia and South America already, they've been connected to both.
As well as on the hair of several other mummies of the museum, which is significant in that the only source for cocaine and nicotine had at that time been considered to be the cocoa and tobacco plants native to the Americas, and were not thought to have been present in Africa until after Columbus' voyage to the Americas.
The result was interpreted by theorists and supporters of contacts between pre-Columbian people and ancient Egyptians.
a proof for their claims the findings are controversial because while other researchers have also detected the presence of cocaine and nicotine in Egyptian mummies to successive analysis of the other groups of Egyptian mummies and human remains failed to fully reproduce Bala Banova's results and some showing positive results only for nicotine but even that is interesting Well, yeah.
It says even assuming that cocaine which actually found the mummies could be Contamination which occurred after discovery of the mummies The same argument could be applied to nicotine But in addition various plants other than tobacco are a source of nicotine and two of these with any Somnifer and Appium Gravill lens Sorry We're known to be used by the ancient Egyptians.
Okay, so they did have some sort of nicotine plant.
And there's a lot of the arguments that were made by those guys I brought up earlier that were back in the 1860s.
They were – one of them was big into linguists and linguistics, and he made all these language – Models and stuff as to why Maya was the first or proto-language that all these other ones were built on.
The other dude was really into iconography.
I'm sure you've seen some of the symbols that you see around the world, like that girl that's sitting on the lions, the Master of Beasts symbols.
Yeah, that type of iconography of usually a woman, but sometimes a man, all the way back into like Kara Hayek, Turkey, like one of those Gopekli Tepe type of sites, has this symbol.
Now, see, there's one place, just because I don't necessarily ascribe to lost technology or ancient high technology.
Don't get me wrong, when it comes to lost civilization, I'm very much of the opinion that there was a civilization from...
Before 12,000 years ago, they got wiped out by some sort of cataclysm.
I don't think that it was...
I don't think that they had, like, real high technology, but it wouldn't have taken much technology for them to appear better than their contemporaries.
The sun never sets on the British Empire was because Europe was hop, skip and a jump ahead of the rest of the world when it came to sailing and conquering people.
And that's, I mean, you can argue about whether that's good or bad or whatever.
A natural function of how human beings adapt to their environment.
And it seems that the Nile Valley in Egypt was an abundant, rich environment that had so much resources that allowed those people to stay there and thrive for thousands of years.
And if you think of the area being a green Sahara, and then it slowly gets smaller, that Nile Delta would explain that concentration of people and ideas and stuff, because you've got what was once spread out across a large area being all shoved together.
I'm making almost a proto-city type of thing or whatever.
Yeah, I'm of the opinion that whatever the lost civilization was, I'm of the opinion that they were really good at seafaring, which made that they were really good at astronomy.
And I put to myself, I think that like the handbag symbol, I think that that's a symbol of their ability to, I think like...
That it is a symbol for a day, like we were talking about before on that pillar, Gobekli Tepe, that there's three of those handbags, and he says each one is actually a sunrise.
They were the ones that when they would show up, they would have the same teamwork, the same ability to work with ropes and all that shit they could use to move megaliths.
The same mathematics or an extension of it.
It's the kind of thing that would be easier for them to move a big rock with a team of guys that have worked together working on boats than it would be for them to move a big rock with a team of people who have never done anything like that before.
And that would also explain why a lot of times these are lined up with stars and shit like that because astronomy would be very important to them.
So that's – I do think that there was a lost civilization.
I mean even simple shit like the bow and arrow in all honesty.
If you think about how complicated that would be to effectively create all the way.
It's easy for a dude to figure out the tension, but building a flight and an arrow that's weighted, it's way different than a spear, it's being launched from the back, not the center, so you can't just transfer it over.
This is requiring multiple people over multiple generations, in my opinion.
The fact that we see it all over the fucking planet, it says something.
Because the concept of if these mummies that show cocaine really are proof that somehow or another someone came from the Americas with cocaine and made their way to Egypt, boy, that throws the whole thing.
It throws a monkey wrench into the whole gears of our timeline of civilization.
Often had baboons incorporated into their structure.
It's said that...
Horopolo in hieroglyphica that it was traditional to allow water to drain out of a hole in the baboon's genitalia because the baboon apparently cries and urinates 12 times a day on the equinoxes.
So you just force-feed water into a baboon to figure out what time it is?
Regardless of the exact reason, the hole was indeed sometimes placed at the end of the baboon's penis.
Model non-functional versions of the water clock often mimic the shape of the hieroglyph itself, similar to the ma'at figurine and may have been used in offering rituals.
See if you can find one of those figurines.
So that's a water clock built on the idea and the water clock, the water comes out of the baboon's penis.
Right below that pillar they're showing, I think someone else has explained to us that those are like, they think that's the time, like calendar, those are days or months or something like that.
So what Dr. Martin Swetman thinks is those three handbags there are three of the cardinal points, like two equinoxes and one solstice, I think, and then the condor down there holding the...
The Sun is what he believes.
He believes that's Sagittarius and that it's basically denoting...
That the fourth cardinal point of the year and that all those other marks add up to the squares are a month, the V's are days, and at the end of it, according to his interpretation, it's what he thinks of.
It's a recording of the time that the asteroid hit, the Younger Dryas impact.
He's come under a lot of fire for it, but the majority of the fire is really funny.
It's like, okay, he's...
He's a chemical engineer.
So he's a mathematician by trade.
He's a number cruncher.
And so the first thing everybody says, ah!
It's not an archaeologist.
You've got a fucking number cruncher in here.
It's like the field of archaeoastronomy, as it's called, was first officially recognized because of the work of a guy named Alexander Tom.
He's the one that was like plotting out a bunch of shit in England and whatnot, right?
And seeing that this lines up with that, it looks like the ancients would stand here to look there.
He predicted that they would find a viewing platform at a certain site.
He's like, they stood up on the side of that hill.
I'll bet you'll find a platform there.
He found that platform and now he's starting to do some science here.
He's making predictions and they're coming true.
This guy was an engineer.
Not a chemical engineer.
He was a construction engineer.
But he had fuck all to do with archaeology.
This is very common.
If you look at the teams that make up archaeoastronomy expeditions, it's usually an astronomer.
An archaeologist?
And then somebody who's just a math whiz.
He's really, really, he's way above the pay grade on either one of these guys when it comes to number crunching.
That's generally speaking the teams that make these things up.
So when they go beating at this guy, that betrays they don't even know of this fucking field.
And of course these are all scientists and historians by and large that are doing that.
So it's really hilarious.
It's like you guys are...
You don't even look.
You don't even open the goddamn book.
One of them famously or infamously to me, because I drag him for it frequently, said, if it looks like a duck, if it walks like a duck, well, I hope you understand.
And it's like, well, I understand between us talking, but I do not fucking understand that for a scientist.
Fuck you on that.
If your job is to test chemicals to figure out which one does what, you don't say, well, it kind of looks like this one, so I'll skip it.
You fucking test each one.
Same thing here.
A hypothesis comes at you.
You don't get to be like, well, it kind of resembles the one that that one kook came up with.
And then they find it, and now he's trying to sell it.
Or not trying to sell, excuse me.
The government comes like 10 years later and tells them that they're going to buy it.
And it's just like if you're, like, if the government's going to build a highway, it doesn't matter how much you paid for your home, it doesn't matter what you got on your property, they're going to come and look at it, and they have an equation for them, and that's all that matters.
If swimming pool's not on that form, fucking swimming pool doesn't get paid for.
Well, on this farmland...
Adding olive trees made that an orchard instead of basically arid farmland.
But what's funny about this is, like, we talk about the arguments against this stuff and how stupid it is.
Okay, Jim points out...
That these trees are a problem.
And since it's Jim, and Jim is fucking public enemy number one to archaeologists, but I'm coming to get you, Jim.
It's going to be my spot soon.
But anyway, since Jim is fucking hated by these guys, it doesn't matter.
There is tons of documentation on the problems with having tree roots above a site, all the way from contamination with different microbes to they use a certain species of snail in Europe to determine certain dates.
Tree roots that punch right through that shit introduce that snail to places it shouldn't be, right?
Tree roots will...
If one of those enclosures at Gobekli Tepe is filled with water or had a well in it, all those roots are screaming down that thing and just blowing it to shit.
It's gone.
So there's a number of things archaeologists...
Everything I just told you, that's shit archaeologists say.
I learned all that from reading papers about...
What's the problem that tree roots can cause to archaeological sites?
Because everybody knows, at least all the construction guys know, they cause problems with foundations.
But they don't care.
They'll argue all day.
Oh, those tree roots aren't so bad.
That's a protective.
It's not such a big deal.
It's all because Jim mentioned it.
Had Flint mentioned it first, they would be all up in arms about taking care of those trees.
Like you were saying earlier, I remember—it drives me nuts because I can't find the— But I remember seeing it years ago of Graham talking to somebody and the guy saying, show me the civilization.
That's one thing it's been pushed back on a lot, but it does look like – there's papers published both ways, but it does look like – last I saw, it does look like the consensus is it was buried deliberately.
The sides of the hill would like collapse into the thing and so that they would just eventually just kind of push some more of it in there and just level it out so they could use the area because it was a bunch of holes in the ground.
And that kind of shit, man, there are people that are Atlantis hunters today.
There's the guy, Robert Zafir.
I hate to say his name even, but I will because he needs to be put on blast a bit.
This guy is, he's an Atlantis bro.
He thinks that the DNA story that we've been told out of Africa is wrong.
Okay, fine.
Whatever.
Where the rubber hits the road is when he starts saying, he'll show like pictures of like old school anthropological models of proto-humans that are real dark skin and big hair coming out and looking half monkey, half man.
And then he'll say there's no way that this could come from the same stock and then show like a little six-year-old Danish girl with perfect fucking big blue eyes.
And this is this kind of constant digs at...
Africans, not out of Africa, but at Africa, all these different species bred with different hominids, and these guys bred with the stupid ones, and these other guys bred with smart ones, and these guys bred with strong ones.
It's racist, for lack of a better term.
It might not even be what you would consider white supremacist, but it's definitely...
When you're done with...
If you were to take everything he said and accept it, you would walk away thinking that different...
Groups of humans are clearly better than each other genetically, fucking hands down, and you can judge it based on skin.
Like I said, I didn't even want to mention his name, and I know I'm going to get people yelling at me about saying that, but the stuff that he puts out is very clearly...
Again, if you take it all on board, you would be a racist.
If you were to just accept it all, you'd be like, well, that guy's black.
Can you scroll up a little, Jeremy, so I can read that?
It says, today, most scholars agree that orcalium is a brass-like alloy which was made in antiquity by cementation.
The process was achieved with the reaction of zinc ore, charcoal, and copper metal in a crucible.
Analyzed by x-ray fluorescence by Dario Panetta of TQ Technologies for Quality, the 39 ingots turned to be an alloy made with 75-80% copper, 15-20% zinc, and small percentages of nickel, lead, and iron.
They said that the temple walls in Atlantis were supposed to have been covered with that stuff.
But that's where, you know, myself, and I know this...
I think that there's a really good chance that a lot of the evidence that we have, a lot of the written records, the myths and stuff of Atlantis, I think a lot of that's going to have a cultural infusion so heavy into it that a lot of the details will get lost and you could almost just be like there was a civilization that was more advanced than the people that wrote about them and that's almost all you could take away sometimes.
Like the Greeks...
Atlantis happened to be a democratic society.
Well, no shit.
The Greeks, they valued that democracy.
It was something they were real proud of.
So, of course, this great place was democratic.
And, of course, they had the same.
That rich-ass metal, all the fuck, and they covered their temples in that shit, bro.
To me, it seemed, you know what I mean?
It's just like, a lot of people say that the whole thing, you know, that Plato just used Atlantis as an allegory or a myth.
And as I've said numerous times, I think that if it didn't look so clunky when they found it, I don't think that we'd have it.
I think it ended up on some rich guy's shelf because it's way too fucking cool.
But they looked at it and they're just like, I don't know, there's like a mass of metal with like some gear frozen to it or I don't know, it's all corroded shit.
Then they bring it up and hand it off and you say, oh, fuck me!
Look what we got here!
Because, yeah, I mean, that looks kind of cool, but it doesn't look nearly as...
I'll tell you something that's kind of painful and hilarious but sad about this.
You know, Flint, they're close.
Closing the anthropology department at the University of Flint teaches at right now.
They're closing down other anthropology departments and archaeology departments across the world right now, across the country.
I just posted one a couple days ago.
Flint was sitting here with Graham talking to you, and there was the opportunity for him to say, We do need to do more investigation, Graham.
I completely agree with you, which is why I think we need to get some people out there to do some underwater archaeology.
Where do you think, Graham?
He could be drumming up fucking business.
And then, at the very least, even if he looked down his nose at everything Graham had to say, the cheddar comes in, the investigations happen, and everybody's happy.
Instead, they're closing his fucking department.
I mean, dude, to me, it's just such a—I mean, it might not necessarily be directly related, but he had an opportunity that he completely didn't just piss it away.
He just drove it into the ground, did the opposite of what he should have done with it.
And they do that— As a matter of course, Jimmy Corsetti brought up once about a year ago on Twitter, he's like, oh yeah, you know, I think the Nephilim in the Bible, it talks about the giants, the Nephilim, I think maybe that might be an extinct species of hominid.
And maybe Denisovans, maybe Neanderthal.
So instead of being like, hey, that's interesting, man, but you know what?
Denisovans and Neanderthal are both the wrong size for, neither one of them were bigger than humans, so they couldn't be giants.
You need to look into Gigantopithecus or maybe some other, and sent Jim on.
On to go learn about science.
Instead, they said, no, it's fucking stupid.
Both of these are smaller than that.
God, this Jimmy Corsetti guy's a fucking grifter.
God, he's stupid.
And then...
I can come along and point out that you missed an opportunity here, guys.
Why are you doing it like this?
Why are you being dicks instead of trying...
You're here trying to be a science educator, right?
So let's imagine something two feet bigger than that.
That's not so hard to believe.
That there was a bunch of them?
Is that hard to believe?
If we find out that there was Little Hobbit people, and if we find out there was Denisovans, and what's those big-headed people that they found, we were talking about it, they found in China, the extra-large skulls?
It's a very recent discovery.
We were just talking about it.
They thought at one point in time they were Dennis Ovens, and now they think it's a completely separate chain.
cousins of the Denisovans and Neanderthals that once lived alongside homo sapiens in Eastern Asia more than a hundred thousand years ago.
The brains of these extinct humans who probably hunted horses and small groups were much bigger than any other hominin of their time including our own species." Yeah.
Well, one of the things that's interesting to me about the giant bones, like, the reports that they go...
The things that they use to really...
Their smoking gun is, like, there's a few reports from, like, the West Coast and, like...
Grand Canyon and shit.
And they would send these letters back being like, or the newspaper that this guy discovered these big giant bones and they're bringing them back.
I'm of the opinion, being...
The skeptical person I am, I'm of the opinion that this was more of an announcement to the people back east that, hey, if these things happen to get stolen along the way and I happen to find a bunch of money along the way, now's your chance because once they get to the Smithsonian boys, they're theirs.
So I don't think any of them made it.
If these exist, if they were giant bones at all, I don't think a damn one of them made it to the Smithsonian.
I mean, and that's where all the, not all, but that's where a lot of the cool stuff is.
But you go to a place like that, it's like, your boy up in Alaska finds a spot, and because it's not human remains, he can do whatever the fuck he wants.
If those were native remains, it'd be a different story.
And, like, he's pulling cash out of that.
Guys in other countries where they don't even have enough to feed—I mean, look at how the Dead Sea Scrolls were found, right?
They just buy them off of fucking little kids and shit, right?
People that had no money.
Like, the kids throw rocks up there, and then they find them, and then the dudes—the first ones were bought from the kids that found them.
But one of the things I did want to ask you is one of the wackier theories that I read online was that there was a discovery of some sort of an Egyptian temple in the Grand Canyon.
Especially if somehow or another you could show that those people profited from that power and then that family has inherited that money and they'd be held liable.