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Joe Rogan Experience #2227 - Adrienne Iapalucci
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the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day of course it's pretty tight is it tight you mean no no nice like tight nice nice i feel like they're gonna sue me For the shirt?
adrienne iapalucci
I don't know.
joe rogan
Do you sell it?
adrienne iapalucci
I'm trying to.
joe rogan
I don't think they want to sue anybody.
I think they want to keep it on the DL, especially you, because you could just go on podcasts and talk about it.
adrienne iapalucci
Not if I'm dead.
I could talk about it until I'm dead.
joe rogan
Let's see.
If they haven't killed Malice, there's so many people that they haven't killed.
adrienne iapalucci
I'd be a fun kill, though.
They'd just come to the Bronx.
It's so easy to just kill me.
joe rogan
Right.
Anybody gets killed in the Bronx.
It happens all the time.
adrienne iapalucci
Nobody cares.
joe rogan
Yeah, probably.
adrienne iapalucci
They don't care.
joe rogan
A few people would be upset.
And then it would go away.
adrienne iapalucci
My mom.
joe rogan
Like Epstein.
adrienne iapalucci
Yes.
joe rogan
That kind of went away.
adrienne iapalucci
It did go away.
joe rogan
The guy who tried to kill Trump kind of went away.
adrienne iapalucci
It did.
Well, didn't that guy get shot, though?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's dead.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
But now he's gone.
Poof, gone.
No one talks about it.
adrienne iapalucci
Do you think P. Diddy is in prison waiting for the Clintons to just kill him?
joe rogan
Do you think...
adrienne iapalucci
Every day I'd be looking for them.
joe rogan
I don't think the Clintons were involved with P. Diddy, do you?
adrienne iapalucci
No, but Epstein.
joe rogan
Was Epstein involved with P. Diddy?
adrienne iapalucci
No, I just feel like these pedophile rings have to cross points, you know, at some point.
joe rogan
The P. Diddy thing sounds like just complete unchecked depravity.
Like, I don't even think he was gay.
He was just fucking guys.
Maybe he's gay, but it seems like he's just depraved.
adrienne iapalucci
I think you have to be a little gay.
Because then he would just be fucking women.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, for sure.
At least for like 10 minutes.
adrienne iapalucci
He's at least bi.
joe rogan
I mean, it might just be whatever drugs are taken.
Like, I don't understand it.
I think I had peripherally heard that P. Diddy had big parties, but I never heard of freak-offs or any...
I never heard of that stuff until pretty recently.
Like, post-pandemic, I think.
Jamie, when did you first hear about P. Diddy parties?
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, I would think that he...
I've heard about him having big parties.
joe rogan
Your mic has to be off because of Carl's breathing.
jamie vernon
I'm breathing pretty heavy still right now.
I'm trying to keep it down.
adrienne iapalucci
Oh my god, he's so cute.
joe rogan
He's adorable.
Carl and Marshall, they go at it every time he comes here.
jamie vernon
I don't know.
First time I heard...
I've heard of...
I don't even know what rumors I would have heard.
I just heard, like, you know...
joe rogan
But it was not...
jamie vernon
He's got crazy parties.
I don't...
He had nothing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It was never, like, in the zeitgeist.
It was never...
adrienne iapalucci
It's just weird, too, because he always had the white parties where you have to wear all white, and I just feel like that's the worst color for body fluid.
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
adrienne iapalucci
Maybe that's how he kept track of who he fucked.
That person's already covered in disgusting stuff.
That's how he kept track of it.
joe rogan
There's so many horrific accusations involving young singers, young children.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, it's disgusting.
joe rogan
It's insane.
adrienne iapalucci
He makes R. Kelly look like a decent guy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
It's so crazy.
joe rogan
It is crazy.
And meanwhile, the guy was like hanging out with Oprah, hanging out with Obama.
adrienne iapalucci
Jay-Z. Everybody.
joe rogan
Everybody.
adrienne iapalucci
I'm sure the Clintons were there at some point.
joe rogan
Maybe Bill.
adrienne iapalucci
Bill is so nice.
joe rogan
I went one time.
Was he?
adrienne iapalucci
He's so nice.
joe rogan
So charming.
adrienne iapalucci
He is, and he's actually still kind of good looking.
Like, even for an older dude.
Yeah, why not?
He's still so good looking, and she's just so miserable.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, she's publicly humiliated and she thought that her big retribution would become president.
You know, become president.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
And then that would be it.
All water under the bridge.
I'm a strong woman.
I'm running this country.
And then America was like, nah.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, it doesn't matter what color you are.
America does not want a woman in charge.
joe rogan
Well, that's not exactly true because she won the popular vote.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, not Kamala, though.
joe rogan
No, but Kamala was a terrible candidate.
The difference between her and Hillary, it's night and day.
adrienne iapalucci
Well, Hillary had a lot of experience, too.
She's been doing this for a long time.
joe rogan
Sure.
She was Secretary of State, and on top of that, she could answer questions.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
Like, you could have a question on...
With her about, like, what would we do differently if you were president about the Israel-Gaza conflict?
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
She would have something off the top of her head.
What would you do differently than Joe Biden?
She wouldn't say, I can't think of a thing.
She would never say that.
adrienne iapalucci
No.
joe rogan
Kamala Harris is just not good.
adrienne iapalucci
She's definitely not good at interviewing either.
joe rogan
No, I mean, I don't know if she's good at running things, because you'd have to be behind the scenes to see how that works.
But when it comes to, like, talking off the top of her head, what she's good at is a pre-rehearsed speech that she reads off a teleprompter.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure, but if someone asks you a rogue question, then you have to be ready to answer it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Rogue questions.
You have to be able to say what differentiates you from Biden.
You have to.
That's pretty simple.
adrienne iapalucci
You're just like, well, I'm still alive.
joe rogan
Yeah, that too.
adrienne iapalucci
That would be funny if she said that.
Right.
That's what she should do.
If she could be funny, people would love a funny person.
joe rogan
I could answer questions.
I could look you in the eye.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
I remember what I'm talking about.
adrienne iapalucci
I was surprised she didn't come on the podcast a little bit.
joe rogan
It seems like, and this is all reports, these are all anecdotal reports, right?
But it seems like her campaign was kind of chaotic.
Like, no one could make a decision.
They had, I don't know how many conversations with my folks.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
But multiple conversations.
Giving different dates, different times, different this, different that.
And we knew that she was going to be in Texas.
So I said, open invitation.
unidentified
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
You said you can come whenever you want.
joe rogan
Anytime.
You pick a time, I will be here.
adrienne iapalucci
And you would have been the best person for her to talk to because you're not going to attack her.
You would just ask her questions, but that's the problem.
I don't know if she'd be able to answer those questions.
joe rogan
I'll ask her questions, but I think they had requirements on things that she didn't want to talk about.
She didn't want to talk about marijuana legalization, so I thought it was hilarious.
adrienne iapalucci
Why?
joe rogan
Because of her prosecuting record.
adrienne iapalucci
Well, I mean, that was her old job, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, and she put a lot of people in jail for weed.
1,500, apparently.
adrienne iapalucci
That's not really that many, though.
1,500.
joe rogan
Tell those guys.
adrienne iapalucci
Are they still in prison?
joe rogan
No.
adrienne iapalucci
Then they're fine now.
Prison really builds character.
You go in there, you really figure out what kind of person you are.
joe rogan
I bet it does.
Yeah, but when you are held past your release date to fight wildfires for the state, because Kamala Harris wants you to do that.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
With a swipe of my pen.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
I mean, it's not like the worst idea to just clean up the wildfires.
joe rogan
Well, you should probably pay people for all work.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
You know, even prisoners.
unidentified
That's just free.
joe rogan
I got a problem with all that.
I mean, I have a problem with slave labor in prison because it's essentially mandated.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
You have to have a job in some prisons.
adrienne iapalucci
But I mean, what else are you going to do in prison?
joe rogan
Read books, do push-ups.
adrienne iapalucci
Okay, but at some point, I'm going to want to do hair.
I'm going to want to cook at some point.
Like, you just do need a routine, otherwise the time never...
How many books can you read every single day?
joe rogan
That's true.
That's true.
Yeah.
How many yoga classes can you take?
adrienne iapalucci
You just need a schedule kind of just to like, I don't know, that just helps your day go by.
Like even if you hated it, you still need, like when I was on unemployment for a period, I'm like, I'm actually very bored.
You know what I mean?
Like you like it for a couple of days, but you need that routine to kind of like, I don't know, if I was in prison, I'd want a job.
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This is my fear when it comes to automation, AI, and then ultimately I think everyone's going to have to have universal basic income.
I think all countries are going to have to have it.
I think the United States is going to have to have it too.
And people need a purpose.
They need a thing.
They need an identity.
And a lot of people identify with whatever their job is.
They find – they take pride in it.
It means something to them to show up at work and have people say they do a great job and you're very valuable to the company and the customers like you and all that stuff is really good for people.
It's good for self-esteem.
It's good for giving you a purpose.
If universal basic income is a thing, which I think it's going to have to be a thing, it's going to be real weird psychologically for people to adjust to that.
adrienne iapalucci
I think there'd probably be a lot of riots.
Like, I don't know, what else would you do?
joe rogan
Just riot with government money?
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, I was thinking Trump might not win, and there was going to be a bunch of riots, and I would be able to just get, like, a free computer.
Like, I was kind of hoping for that.
joe rogan
Well, you know, you could buy a computer, Adrian.
adrienne iapalucci
You're a successful comedian.
No, I want it for free.
Listen, a free computer is better than a computer you have to pay for.
joe rogan
Is it?
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wouldn't you feel guilty at all?
adrienne iapalucci
No, if they're rioting, everything's for free.
That's the rule.
joe rogan
That was the rule during George Floyd.
adrienne iapalucci
But that's what I'm saying.
During Black Lives Matter, I lived by a CVS that was getting broken into all the time.
I have shampoo and conditioner for years.
joe rogan
Did you go in there?
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, why not?
I was in there when it was happening.
joe rogan
You're going to get arrested.
unidentified
How?
Don't say that.
No.
joe rogan
These are all jokes, right?
adrienne iapalucci
Wink.
joe rogan
They're all jokes.
adrienne iapalucci
Listen, I was just supporting Black Lives Matter, and that's how you do it.
joe rogan
That's how you do it.
You get shampoo for free.
adrienne iapalucci
Shampoo and conditioner.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The most racist thing I ever saw was a CVS that had everything locked up except sunscreen.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, that's pretty much how it is in every CVS. And white people don't buy sunscreen because we want to be dark.
So no one's stealing it or buying it.
joe rogan
Yeah, good call.
Well, they do if they're worried about cancer.
If you're one of those people, it puts it everywhere, all over your face.
Meanwhile, you're putting toxic chemicals all over your face.
adrienne iapalucci
People do that and they're like smoking cigarettes.
It's like, what are you doing?
Just get cancer.
joe rogan
Well, I was reading this thing where they were talking about that, see if you can find this So what this person was saying was that people who spend less time in the sun are more likely to get deadly skin cancer.
adrienne iapalucci
Is it because your body's not used to it?
joe rogan
Yeah, you get cooked.
You know, your body doesn't have any melanin.
So you go out there and you get like fucking burnt to death and your body develops cancers.
But also, you don't have vitamin D. So vitamin D is like a critical hormone and it protects you from a lot of things.
It's crucial for your immune system.
It's crucial for a lot of different functions.
adrienne iapalucci
It's also interesting because one time we were at the cellar and Louie kept telling me that I needed vitamin D because I'm so white.
And I was just like, is that a real thing?
It just sounds like dick.
I was like, what?
Yeah, you need vitamin D. I was like, is that like a real thing?
unidentified
Yeah, you're so white, you need some vitamin D. So you need to get fucked by somebody that's going to help you.
joe rogan
That's the only thing that's going to help you.
adrienne iapalucci
That's the only thing that's going to keep me alive.
joe rogan
Imagine if that was true.
Imagine if like the only way you can maintain health is to get fucked.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, it makes sense.
People that are homeless are just like figuring themselves all the time.
There must be something to it.
joe rogan
I think they're mentally ill.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure, but they also are like, I want to stay alive.
I want to prolong this homelessness.
Keep me alive as long as we can.
joe rogan
There's a book I read, Fingering Yourself for Health.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, all of the homeless people on 6th Street are just fingering themselves constantly.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of that kind of activity.
Yeah.
I think they just give up on shame, on everything.
adrienne iapalucci
I think you're out of your mind.
You have to be out of your mind.
You're like, who cares?
joe rogan
There's this poor lady on 6th Street.
There's a gas station that I only go to if everything's gone totally wrong, and I need gas for sure.
adrienne iapalucci
You just run out of it.
joe rogan
But you're like, there, you get out of your car, you're ready to fight people.
It's a sketchy gas station.
adrienne iapalucci
Oh, I guess.
joe rogan
And there's this poor lady who, her head, instead of being like here, her head is like, it's like it's broken.
Her neck is broken.
adrienne iapalucci
Okay.
joe rogan
And so her head is like down here.
And she has to look at you like this.
She can't lift her chin off of her sternum.
Like, literally down like this.
And she's just a bag of bones.
Just barely alive.
adrienne iapalucci
Like, okay, obviously we're not going to help homeless people.
Like, there's no money in helping poor people.
Like, let's give them all fentanyl.
Clean up the streets.
Do the kindest thing we can for them.
joe rogan
Odeem?
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
If I'm on the street for longer than a week, please kill me.
It's not going well.
joe rogan
These people have recovered.
These people have gotten their shit together.
adrienne iapalucci
How many?
joe rogan
I don't know.
adrienne iapalucci
How many CEOs were like, I was on the street for years, and then I got some vitamin D. Well, how many CEOs enjoy life?
joe rogan
That's the real question.
Just because something's difficult to do doesn't mean it's good to do, right?
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
Like, some people think that becoming extremely wealthy and running a major corporation Because it's difficult to do, that's something you should aspire to.
But those guys all die young.
They all have heart attacks and strokes.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, it's a very high-stress position.
joe rogan
Insanely high-stress, and the hours are insane, and you're probably fucking miserable, other than the time you're doing coke and banging strippers.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
I think I would like the rich part, and then I would just do something with, like, animals.
joe rogan
Oh, there you go.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, I love animals.
unidentified
Yeah, I know you do.
adrienne iapalucci
People forget.
unidentified
I can tell.
adrienne iapalucci
But, like...
joe rogan
Well, I brought Marshall just for you.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, Marshall is so beautiful.
Like, if I ever go bald, I told you I want, like, a wig.
I don't know how white women are now just wearing Golden Retriever's wigs because it's beautiful.
His hair.
joe rogan
But it would stink when it gets wet.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, everyone thinks white people smell anyway.
Who gives a shit?
You remember the first time you heard that black people thought white people smell like dogs?
unidentified
I did not.
adrienne iapalucci
You're like, we love dogs.
joe rogan
I have never heard that.
adrienne iapalucci
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
adrienne iapalucci
They always think we smell like dogs.
It's like, try hurting my feelings.
joe rogan
Well...
I guess if you're around dogs, I think human beings smell if they don't wash.
That's all it is.
Like, I don't think there's a difference in the smell of black people and white people.
And this is coming from someone who does jujitsu.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure, maybe not.
joe rogan
So I smell people like that close when their chest pressed up against my face.
I've never noticed a difference in human odor.
adrienne iapalucci
All I know is black people think white people smell like dogs.
Wet dogs when they get wet.
joe rogan
Maybe that's just like a fun thing to say.
adrienne iapalucci
I think it's more than one black person saying it.
For real?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Jamie, you ever heard that?
No.
Jamie never heard it.
adrienne iapalucci
Well, I hang out with a lot of black people.
joe rogan
Maybe they always say that to you.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
Weird.
adrienne iapalucci
I'm like, that doesn't hurt my feelings.
I love dogs.
joe rogan
Yeah, dogs are great.
adrienne iapalucci
They're amazing.
joe rogan
If you're going to smell like an animal, I mean, that's not the worst one to smell like.
Cats are kind of crazy because they never smell.
And they don't even take showers.
They just clean themselves.
adrienne iapalucci
No, but if you get one of those hairless ones, you have to clean their nails and their skin and stuff.
joe rogan
The hairless ones are fucking weird.
adrienne iapalucci
They are, but I like that.
joe rogan
Do white people really smell like wet dogs to black people?
The smell comes from hair follicles when they get wet.
Hair follicles secrete an oil that spreads somewhat when wet and a small amount of water gets in.
Okay.
Interesting.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's from Cora.
It's hilarious.
adrienne iapalucci
That sounds like a white person.
joe rogan
But that's hilarious.
Go back up to that.
Cora is one of those answer websites, right?
adrienne iapalucci
Oh, I thought Cora like a black lady.
jamie vernon
Look at all the Reddit posts.
joe rogan
I understand the Reddit posts, but here's my point.
Cora is like one of those, like, you can ask it, like, how do you make a nuclear bomb?
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
Like that kind of stuff.
And imagine if it said, do black people really smell like dogs?
adrienne iapalucci
What do black people smell like when they're wet?
joe rogan
I don't think they smell any different than anybody.
But the point is, you could never have that question on a question webpage.
adrienne iapalucci
You can't?
They'll take it off?
joe rogan
No fucking chance.
But you could have it about white people.
adrienne iapalucci
Could you ask what Indian people smell like?
joe rogan
I don't think you should.
adrienne iapalucci
But nobody cares about Indian people at all.
joe rogan
Indian people do.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, but you ever see what they're doing in India?
joe rogan
Vivek Ramaswamy becomes president, you're going to have a real issue with this.
adrienne iapalucci
I don't even know who that is.
joe rogan
Really?
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
You don't know who Vivek is?
adrienne iapalucci
I try not to pay attention to what's going on.
joe rogan
Good for you.
adrienne iapalucci
I really don't know anything.
joe rogan
Good for you.
That's so healthy.
adrienne iapalucci
I know very little.
joe rogan
If you can exist like that, it's a good way to be.
There's plenty of people in this world that are paying attention.
adrienne iapalucci
I know.
I'm not one of them, though.
joe rogan
I don't have a problem with that.
That's Ari Shavir, too.
unidentified
He doesn't know what the fuck's going on.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, that's why we're good buddies.
joe rogan
Yeah, he has no idea what's happening.
adrienne iapalucci
He's, I mean...
joe rogan
You talk to him about laws being passed, he's like, what?
That's not real.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, Ari's the best.
But he's also so autistic, which is why him even producing my special was so good because he's so focused and he knows exactly what to do.
joe rogan
Very focused.
Love stand-up as an art form.
adrienne iapalucci
Love stand-up.
He's the best at not killing seats for the show.
He is the best person for that.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
He knows how important that is.
His special that he did, the Jew special, was so ridiculous because they had to keep those candles lit and so they had to constantly light them.
adrienne iapalucci
I was there for it.
I opened for it.
It was so hot and he taped it in June.
It was so hot.
I was on stage.
I did like 15 minutes.
I'm like, oh, it's really hot in here.
joe rogan
Boy, there's a fire behind you.
adrienne iapalucci
I know.
joe rogan
You think about all those candles?
How much fire is that?
That's a lot of fire.
adrienne iapalucci
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Did they have fire extinguishers standing by in case some shit went sideways?
adrienne iapalucci
Probably.
I'm sure there was some like...
There might have been a fire marshal they had to hire just to make sure.
joe rogan
Probably.
adrienne iapalucci
But even if the whole place goes on fire, what's he going to do?
He's going to be like, well, there's a fire.
What's he going to do?
joe rogan
He's going to run away.
unidentified
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
So what is he going to do?
I mean, you would need so many fire extinguishers.
joe rogan
No.
They're little tiny fires.
They're a bunch of little itty-bitty fires.
There's not like one major all-consuming fire like that.
adrienne iapalucci
What if it gets a hold of like the curtain?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Eh.
If you have fire extinguishers, how far back was the curtain from that?
Was there a curtain at all?
adrienne iapalucci
I'm pretty sure there's a curtain.
I'm pretty sure there's a curtain, yeah.
I mean, it looks beautiful, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not as easy to light things on fire as you think.
And if fire marshals are standing by with a fire extinguisher, they put that shit out real quick.
And that would actually be kind of funny.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
They'd probably keep that on the show.
adrienne iapalucci
That'd be fun if there was a fire.
unidentified
What a stupid idea to get a bunch of fucking candles on stage.
adrienne iapalucci
That'd be amazing.
joe rogan
Well, he was running that special forever, for a long time.
And then, you know, the whole Kobe thing happened and he stopped and then he came back.
adrienne iapalucci
What's crazy, I was with him in, I guess it was Charlotte when the whole Colby thing happened.
And he was sick.
I was like, oh, we were on the road.
I was like, just go to sleep.
And then I wake up and I'm like, what did you do?
I was like, you're sick.
You're supposed to go to sleep.
And then I was like, oh, Ari.
And then the funniest part is people are like, we're going to kick your ass if you're ever in North Carolina.
And he's like, I'm there.
And they're like, all right, well, if you come to where I'm at, we're going to kick your ass.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Well, he was really into making fun of people when they died because everybody was really kind to people when they die.
And he was always like, fuck them.
Some of them were really funny.
The Kobe one was not.
But some of them were really funny.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
I also don't think he knew.
He didn't know the daughter was there.
He was just doing it about Kobe.
joe rogan
Jamie, your microphone is rubbing.
Oh.
Yeah, but just...
He doesn't do that anymore, thank God.
adrienne iapalucci
What's funny is the Uber came to pick us up the next day, and it's just like a black dude picking us up, and he's like, I gotta go to the bathroom.
He takes us to a transient bus station.
joe rogan
The Uber guy?
adrienne iapalucci
Yes.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
adrienne iapalucci
And I'm like, does this guy know?
joe rogan
It's a setup.
adrienne iapalucci
I'm like, are we gonna get murdered?
The guy leaves for like 20, 30 minutes to take a shit.
joe rogan
No way.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, before we're going to the airport.
joe rogan
No way.
adrienne iapalucci
He did, and I was like, this is crazy.
joe rogan
I would've ordered a second Uber to pick me up where the first Uber was.
adrienne iapalucci
No, we were ready to get murdered.
joe rogan
You're ready.
adrienne iapalucci
We're just sitting there.
joe rogan
The time is now.
This is my fate.
adrienne iapalucci
This is my fate.
We're dying right now.
joe rogan
Why don't you die because Ari Shafir decides?
First of all, for the longest time, Ari realized that he could not have a phone because he would be addicted to social media and it was terrible for his mental health.
adrienne iapalucci
And that's what happened.
joe rogan
And so he had a flip phone forever.
adrienne iapalucci
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
And I was like, good for you.
Like, Dave Attell still has a flip phone.
adrienne iapalucci
He does.
joe rogan
And it's brilliant.
Like, the people that do it, Sebastian Younger, he came in here, he still has a flip phone.
There's people that rock a flip phone.
adrienne iapalucci
If he would have not had that flip phone, he wouldn't have done the Kobe stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, 100%.
But I think things like that ultimately are good.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, he doesn't regret it.
Have you talked to him?
joe rogan
He shouldn't have done it, right?
But now he knows he shouldn't have done it, and that's just another layer of experience in life and just overcoming this horrific cancellation.
adrienne iapalucci
Should he not have done it, though?
joe rogan
In hindsight?
Yeah, I think it's probably not a good thing to do.
To mock a guy and his daughter who died in a helicopter crash.
adrienne iapalucci
But he didn't mock the daughter.
He just mocked him.
joe rogan
True.
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
So, I asked Molly, do you regret doing it?
He's like, no.
joe rogan
Of course he said that.
adrienne iapalucci
And nobody really, like people were upset.
That's the whole thing with cancellations.
People are upset for like two, three days and then they forget.
joe rogan
Well, especially in this new cycle.
This new cycle is so crazy.
It's just, no matter what happens, there's always something right around the corner that just covers it up.
adrienne iapalucci
Just a new thing to get upset about.
joe rogan
Yeah, just another wave comes in and you no longer, it fades.
Whatever it is.
adrienne iapalucci
Bridges sent me that thing about the FEMA person who got fired because if you had a Trump thing on your...
joe rogan
Can you imagine that?
adrienne iapalucci
I know, but it's like if you have any signs, that means your house didn't get hit hard by a hurricane.
joe rogan
No.
adrienne iapalucci
Come on.
joe rogan
No, because you could have a Biden sign.
Look, it doesn't matter.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
Any sign.
But that's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Depends on how the sign was secured.
Depends entirely on how the sign was secured.
adrienne iapalucci
If your roof came off, you think that sign's going to be there?
joe rogan
Bottom line is that's not what she was saying.
What she was saying is avoid all houses that have a Trump sign.
You cannot do that.
adrienne iapalucci
Oh, I know.
But I'm just saying what's funny to me is like if you have a sign and it didn't lift off the ground, like how hard was your house hit?
joe rogan
It could be flooding.
Your house could have been completely flooded.
You have no power, no electricity, no running water.
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
I guess.
joe rogan
Your house needs to be drained.
It's federal emergency management.
It's not supposed to be federal emergency management for whoever this one person who's in charge with ideologically agrees with.
adrienne iapalucci
Oh, absolutely.
I was making a joke.
If you have any sign there and it survived a hurricane, your house is probably fine.
joe rogan
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
Also, I want FEMA funds to go to the Fyre Festival.
That's all our money should be going through is white guys trying to run a festival who fail.
joe rogan
Do you know that guy's doing another one?
adrienne iapalucci
I know.
It's not a fire festival, is it?
joe rogan
I think he's calling it a fire festival, too.
Is he?
unidentified
I think so, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he's charging like a million dollars a ticket.
His move is to just charge an insane amount of money and see how fucking stupid some people are.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, I love that.
joe rogan
The whole thing was nuts.
It's like, one dude, it's always like some guy who you think could be selling Bitcoin or a pyramid scheme, and now he's decided to put on a music festival.
adrienne iapalucci
Because he wants to be cool.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
He wants to party with people.
adrienne iapalucci
He wants to party with people.
joe rogan
But didn't he get famous people to go?
adrienne iapalucci
I think a lot of people pulled out.
joe rogan
At the last minute?
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
Probably when they heard.
adrienne iapalucci
No, but who was the guy that was like, not Jadakiss.
joe rogan
Ja Rule?
adrienne iapalucci
Ja Rule was doing it with him.
I mean, if you have Ja Rule in anything, it's not going to be well.
joe rogan
Was Ja Rule one of the organizers?
adrienne iapalucci
I think he was just like one of the faces of it.
I don't know if he put money in it or not.
joe rogan
Right, like he gave him a piece of it or something like that.
adrienne iapalucci
I don't know.
He was there.
They brought all these influencers out.
I mean, listen, if he pulled it off, it would have been pretty good.
I mean, he did have everyone post at the same time, like, what was it, that orange box or something?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
So, like, everyone saw it, and they were like, oh, what's this?
And then all these, like, rich kids are there, and they're, like, crying.
I mean, honestly, the Fyre Festival was for all of us.
That's what it was.
joe rogan
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
For all of us to see all these kids crying in these FEMA tents, and it was just...
It was amazing.
It was amazing.
joe rogan
See if you can find his videos.
He's trying to promote Fyre Festival, too.
So he's walking down the street of New York City saying that so many tickets are already sold.
adrienne iapalucci
I think they sold a lot of tickets.
jamie vernon
I'm looking to buy one.
I can't find the website to buy them.
Not that I want to go.
I just want to see.
joe rogan
Well, it might not even be real.
He might be completely insane at this point.
jamie vernon
There's a lot of press about it.
joe rogan
About Fyre Festival 2?
jamie vernon
Yeah, posted on multiple websites.
This was all happening.
It could have just been a press release.
joe rogan
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
Where is Fyre Festival 2 going to be?
jamie vernon
Somewhere in Mexico on April 25th through 28th.
adrienne iapalucci
Oh my god, I hope the cartel dies out.
joe rogan
This year?
jamie vernon
No, coming up, yeah.
joe rogan
This year coming up, yeah.
Wow.
Who the fuck is going to go?
adrienne iapalucci
Who's going to Mexico for a fucking fire festival?
That's crazy.
Just go to Cancun.
It's so much closer.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
Fire festival.
joe rogan
Go to Puerto Vallarta.
You don't have to go to fire festival.
What's the place that all the kids go to?
Tulum.
They'll have to party in Tulum.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, have it there.
joe rogan
I don't know why Tulum.
That's like one of the major places where they have those Aztec ruins, I think, or Mayan ruins.
I don't know why Tulum is like the big, it's like where like hippies and psychedelic people go.
They go to Tulum.
They do a lot of Instagram posts.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, that's all, everything's about an Instagram post.
joe rogan
I was watching this lady and her boyfriend the other day.
We were walking on the street, and they had basically taken up the entire street.
The girl was sitting on this marble bench, and she was posing.
You couldn't walk in between the two of them, and he was like 12 feet away from her.
So it was like, what is this?
adrienne iapalucci
You're just stopping.
joe rogan
And it was a long photo shoot.
It went on for a couple minutes.
It was fucking stupid as shit.
She kept changing her pose and her face.
The angle that he photographed her at.
I wanted to take his phone away.
Like, hey, fuckhead.
Get out of the way.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, they do that.
I was in CVS and they were doing a sketch.
And everyone's like, you've got to get out of here.
A sketch in CVS? Yeah, there's a bunch of people with cameras and they were trying to do a sketch and they were screaming and this girl was like, this girl behind the counter is a nice girl and she's also like a little bit slow so she's trying to get these people out of there.
It's just like chaos.
joe rogan
Everybody wants attention.
adrienne iapalucci
I get why people steal in CVS because nobody helps you and you're like, I will just steal.
It's just, you're better off stealing than waiting there for somebody to come help you.
It's just a nightmare.
joe rogan
The amount of people that I've seen working at those kind of stores that have like some sort of odd wound.
adrienne iapalucci
An eye wound?
unidentified
Odd.
joe rogan
Some odd like something like their head looks oddly shapen like they get hit with a brick.
adrienne iapalucci
Well that's where veterans go to work.
They send you back.
joe rogan
To CVS? Yeah.
Really?
adrienne iapalucci
I don't know.
unidentified
No?
joe rogan
You just making that up?
adrienne iapalucci
I make a lot of stuff up.
joe rogan
There's so many of these fucking sketches and pranks that people are doing now on YouTube.
It's like everybody, if you look at kids today, they did some sort of a survey where they asked kids, what do you want to be when you grow up?
And most of them said famous.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, I mean, you could get famous opening unboxing videos.
I mean, if you could do that, why wouldn't you want to do that?
I mean, I'd have a kid just to see if they could do that.
joe rogan
Well, you know that kid on TikTok, Keith Lee?
Do you know who he is?
He just reviews food?
adrienne iapalucci
No.
joe rogan
With sort of a monotone voice.
He's actually brothers with a...
He was an MMA fighter himself.
And he's brothers with Kevin Lee, who was a top UFC contender at one point in time.
And he just does these sort of monotone videos where he reviews food.
adrienne iapalucci
Is he like...
joe rogan
Super popular.
adrienne iapalucci
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
It's like, why even go to school if you could just unbox a video?
joe rogan
One of a kind study shows that 27 million paid creators operating in the US, 11.6 million of them working full-time as creators.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Is that a number one job?
adrienne iapalucci
If you're from another country and you're like, why don't we just bomb America?
joe rogan
That might be...
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Isn't the number one job driving vehicles in the United States, which is one of the things they're really worried about when it comes to automation, because that's one of the first jobs it's going to go.
adrienne iapalucci
I've seen those cars where there's no one operating them and they're just driving.
joe rogan
They're weird.
Okay, number one occupation.
Retail salesperson is $3 million.
Home and health personal care is $3 million as well.
Both of them are $3,700,000.
General and operations managers, $3,500,000.
Fast food counter workers, $3,400,000.
Show them all?
adrienne iapalucci
What's interesting is the retail and the home health aides, they're the same people doing both jobs because they can't afford to live.
Just one job.
joe rogan
So Drivers isn't even in the top ten.
That's interesting.
I thought it was like number one of the top ones.
So Cooks is two million seven and that's number ten.
Stalkers, order fillers, two eight.
And so influencers was what?
1 million?
That's what it was?
11. Wait a minute.
So that's more than that.
So what the fuck?
So go back to that chart again.
11.6.
jamie vernon
That's like the top four combined almost.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
So that's the most common job.
So why is it saying retail salesperson?
It's like literally three times more common than that.
jamie vernon
I'll have to then dig into where they're getting their data from, I guess.
joe rogan
Wow.
jamie vernon
It says retail has been the most common job in the U.S. since 1997. Not anymore, bitches.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
So that means an influencer or content creator, whatever the fuck you want to call people.
That's me too, I guess.
That's the number one job.
Podcasting.
I used to have a joke back when it was just reality shows that there's going to be a reality show about a cameraman on a reality show.
adrienne iapalucci
Somebody's filming him.
joe rogan
Someone's filming the cameraman on reality.
What a crazy job.
You are a cameraman on a reality show.
And then someone's going to say, but who's the cameraman behind the cameraman?
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
And then it's going to be like two mirrors facing each other.
The United States is going to be filled with just camera people filming other camera people.
adrienne iapalucci
I'm into it.
joe rogan
It was a joke, but it's kind of true now.
Because back when I said this, this was like 2000-something when I was on Fear Factor, there was no social media stars.
It didn't exist.
And social media itself didn't exist.
But now that it does, now that you see the impact that it has and how many people are making a living, Air quotes content creators.
It's kind of fucking crazy.
adrienne iapalucci
It's incredible.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a totally new market that emerged out of nowhere.
And according to that thing, at least, it's the number one job in the country.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
I mean, it makes sense.
People are making a ton of money off of it.
That's why people are like filming every single thing that they do.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
I'm just putting it on Instagram or TikTok.
joe rogan
Well, they learned from the Kardashians that it doesn't even have to be interesting.
adrienne iapalucci
No, it doesn't.
joe rogan
You just have to have a new scene every five seconds.
adrienne iapalucci
And also if it's like something crazy, if somebody's fighting, like a fight.
unidentified
That helps.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that doesn't even matter.
All you have to do is just constantly switch angles.
Do you ever watch a reality show?
adrienne iapalucci
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
The scenes constantly change.
adrienne iapalucci
Just switching.
joe rogan
My wife watches that stupid fucking Kardashian show.
adrienne iapalucci
I'll watch it too, but sometimes it's so monotone.
It's just one monotone person to another monotone person.
joe rogan
She just likes the clothes and the little pretty houses and design.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, listen, I've watched the Kardashians.
I get it.
joe rogan
But the point is, every five seconds, the camera changes angles.
You never have, like, a podcast.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just, you and me, the only thing that changes is your camera's on when you're talking, my camera's on when we're talking.
Sometimes it's both of us talking on camera.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, I wish Kris Jenner was my mother.
I mean, the way she's made these kids so famous, like, could you imagine telling your kid to fucking have a sex scene and then release it?
joe rogan
Do you think that she did that?
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, she absolutely did that.
joe rogan
For sure?
adrienne iapalucci
I think so.
joe rogan
Really?
adrienne iapalucci
I'm pretty sure.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
I reserve judgment.
adrienne iapalucci
I think she did and I think it was the smartest thing she could have done for all their careers.
joe rogan
Definitely worked.
adrienne iapalucci
Absolutely.
joe rogan
And then everybody has sex.
Right.
If you want to watch, go watch.
adrienne iapalucci
Go watch it.
unidentified
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
Like you would never think a mom would put that out there but it was like pretty brilliant.
My mom would never do something like that for me.
joe rogan
Well, you know, she's a little unconventional.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
Yeah, it takes an unconventional woman to, like, release your kid's sex tape.
joe rogan
She kind of turned her husband into a woman and basically made the entire Klan super rich.
adrienne iapalucci
Even Rob is rich.
unidentified
Super rich.
adrienne iapalucci
They're all rich.
joe rogan
Crazy rich.
Yeah, for no reason.
adrienne iapalucci
Because of that sex date.
joe rogan
Right, but that is kind of the seed.
adrienne iapalucci
It is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
Ray J was more famous than Kim when they did that.
joe rogan
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
And now Ray J's like, nowhere.
Like, if his mother also was on top of it with Chris, he could have been a bigger star too.
Nobody gives a shit about Ray J anymore.
joe rogan
That's crazy that he didn't capitalize on that.
adrienne iapalucci
Because his mom wasn't Kris Jenner.
joe rogan
Right, but why didn't he figure out a way?
adrienne iapalucci
I don't know.
joe rogan
What's unique about her way of thinking?
adrienne iapalucci
I think it's just Kim is very pretty.
joe rogan
That helps.
He's a good-looking guy, though.
adrienne iapalucci
He's got a big dick.
He is a good-looking guy.
joe rogan
Got a big dick, right?
adrienne iapalucci
I assume.
You know, I never saw the video.
joe rogan
How dare you lie to me like that, right to my face.
adrienne iapalucci
That he has a big dick?
joe rogan
No, that you never saw the video.
adrienne iapalucci
I didn't.
I saw the video, but I didn't see his dick in it.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
What did you see?
adrienne iapalucci
I think I saw it too late.
I seen it years later.
I seen it years later.
I checked it out too late when the dick wasn't in it.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
The dick was removed eventually?
adrienne iapalucci
I think the dick was eventually removed.
unidentified
Come on.
adrienne iapalucci
I don't know.
I've been searching for it pretty hard.
joe rogan
I bet Jamie can find it right now on Pornhub.
adrienne iapalucci
Let's see.
joe rogan
Can you find it?
jamie vernon
Pornhub is blocked in Texas, Joe.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
Well, you know what?
adrienne iapalucci
Why is it blocked in Texas?
joe rogan
You've got to have certain laws if you want to have free guns.
adrienne iapalucci
Why is it blocked in Texas?
joe rogan
It's not blocked.
It's not blocked.
You just have to have proof that you're 18. How do you prove that?
adrienne iapalucci
Your license?
joe rogan
Upload, yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
You have Kris Jenner say that you're over 18?
joe rogan
You have to have proof.
adrienne iapalucci
Okay, I guess.
Well, I'm going to go home and search it.
joe rogan
Well, porn addiction for kids is a real thing.
adrienne iapalucci
I date a guy that had porn addiction.
joe rogan
You know?
What happened?
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, we broke up eventually.
He was also a little autistic.
And then he went to see a sex therapist and I think they were fucking, so I guess she fixed it.
joe rogan
He fucked his sex therapist?
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
For real?
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, that's what he told me.
I don't think he was, like, lying about it.
joe rogan
What a bitch.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, but you have to, like, it's like any other addiction.
You have to, like, stop doing it.
I didn't even know he had it.
joe rogan
I'm just focusing on the sex therapist.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, how crazy is it that she's fucking her clients?
Maybe her boyfriend wasn't fucking her at all.
And she was like, at least someone's obsessed with it.
adrienne iapalucci
Well, maybe...
joe rogan
Give it to me.
unidentified
Maybe.
adrienne iapalucci
Maybe that's how she cures you.
joe rogan
Because if you're horny, if you're like a healthy person who's just horny normally, and the person you're with is not horny at all, and you're exhausted by that, but you're a sex therapist, and then you're talking to some guy, he's a good-looking guy, and he's like, I want to fuck all the time.
And she's like, you know what, I want to fuck all the time, too.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
But like with porn addiction, he would have like 300 screens open at once, so one person to him is boring.
So that's what porn addiction is.
I'm exaggerating, but you need a lot of different things open, and it probably has to get more and more progressive for you to get off.
joe rogan
Well, that's where it gets real weird, right?
You start getting into the darker side of porn, like violent porn and choking and gagging, spitting and slapping and abuse, tying people up.
That kind of shit.
Like, because if you're just getting your jollies...
If you're not just trying to masturbate and have a little fantasy, you want to, like...
It's got to get darker and crazier and cra...
It's got to, like, really freak you out.
adrienne iapalucci
But that's why I think you have all those screens open.
You're watching all of it at once.
joe rogan
You're getting tiny dopamine hits from a hundred sources.
unidentified
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
So then, like...
joe rogan
And then your therapist calling you up.
Get over here.
adrienne iapalucci
I got 300 other therapists here.
unidentified
You're a naughty boy.
joe rogan
You're a naughty boy.
Get over here.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, so, I mean...
joe rogan
How did he say that it started with the sex therapist?
adrienne iapalucci
I don't know.
He didn't tell me, like, the specifics of it.
We had been broken up already, and we, like, remained friends, and he just told me that they started sleeping together.
joe rogan
Jesus.
That seems crazy.
That's like prison guards fucking the prisoners.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, if I was in prison, I would try and fuck all the guards.
What else are you going to do?
I would do everything.
I'd become Muslim.
I would become trans.
I would do everything I could do in prison to pass the time.
joe rogan
Especially if you have a long sentence.
adrienne iapalucci
If you're there for life, I'm down to do everything.
I'll do license plates.
I'm going to do hair.
I'm going to cook.
I'm going to do everything there.
joe rogan
Of course.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's weird how many people are in prison.
I mean, we went over this the other day.
How many people are in prison in the United States compared to, like, the rest of the fucking world?
It's like we have the highest percentage of people that are in prison, I think, of any country in the Western world for sure.
I mean, China's hard to count because you have essentially slaves.
adrienne iapalucci
Well, also in China, they all live in tiny boxes anyway, which are prisons of their own doing.
joe rogan
Well, you wouldn't say necessarily that the people that make your iPhone are slaves, but they're literally sleeping in dorms and they put nets around the building to keep them from jumping off.
adrienne iapalucci
I'd rather be in prison.
Right.
How do you get in prison in China?
joe rogan
At least in prison, they probably give you less hours than the Foxconn workers.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
You probably get better food.
How many people?
End of 2023, the US had 1.8 million people in prison, which is more than any other country.
China had the second highest number of prisoners, with about 100,000 fewer than the US. But the thing about China, again, it's not just the amount of people in an actual prison.
You have to think about the actual people that are slaves.
The US has the highest incarceration rate in the world, 724 people per 100,000.
England and Wales has an incarceration rate of 145 per 140,000, and Russia has 581 people per 100,000.
So Russia's nipping at our heels.
unidentified
Russian people are fucking crazy, though.
joe rogan
US has longer sentences than many other countries, which contributes to the high incarceration rates.
I wonder how many other countries have private prisons, too.
That's the dark part.
adrienne iapalucci
Well, that's how you make the money.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Profit.
Profit off of people.
I remember when I found out that prison guard unions were lobbying to keep marijuana laws because they wanted people to be in jail.
I was like, what?
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, because they want to make money.
joe rogan
They want money.
They need that job.
They need those contracts.
So many countries have private prisons, including the United States, has the most private prisons in the world, 158 facilities in 30 states, Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia.
Australia, high percentage of privatized prisons, New Zealand, United Kingdom, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, Japan, Brazil.
When did they start with the private prison thing?
Like who, what fucking monster?
Okay, Google this.
What was the first private prison?
What fucking monster didn't see...
Didn't see the road ahead when you allow people to profit off of people being locked up.
What monster didn't see you're going to just have people lock more people up?
1984, these motherfuckers.
It's George Orwell.
Literally is Orwell.
adrienne iapalucci
I would have thought it was before that.
joe rogan
No, it's a fairly recent thing.
Prison used to be something that we used to have because we had to lock certain people up to protect them from society.
And instead it became, hey, I think I can make money.
I think I can make money off people in jail.
They're using people like batteries to generate money.
jamie vernon
This thing says Louisiana privatized.
It's penitentiary.
I don't know if there's a big differentiation between that.
joe rogan
1844. Privatized, which was run as a factory.
Yeah, inmates were used to produce cheap clothing for enslaved people.
Wow!
That's crazy.
You're producing clothes for slaves.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, that is basically just Xi'an.
That's what they're doing in China.
joe rogan
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
All those clothes that are like $2.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's weird, right?
adrienne iapalucci
I know.
joe rogan
You can buy a total knockoff of a designer dress for like $4.
adrienne iapalucci
I know.
It's great.
joe rogan
I love it.
You love it.
I think there's a documentary on that that I was watching.
My kid was watching it and I walked in on it.
adrienne iapalucci
Was it like the Xi'an documentary?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah, they were talking about these people, like they lost their contract because they weren't able to produce things as fast as this company needed them.
And it was just all about the knockoff industry over there.
So if you're a designer, you might take that top that you're wearing and people like it.
They'll just take that top and copy it exactly.
And sell for five bucks.
And you're like, what?
That's $59 on my website.
Nope, five bucks.
adrienne iapalucci
Why are there not knockoff iPhones?
joe rogan
There are.
Not only is there a knockoff iPhone, there's a knockoff Apple store in China where every single item is not really Apple.
adrienne iapalucci
But it works just as good?
It does not work as good?
joe rogan
I doubt it.
adrienne iapalucci
How long does it last?
joe rogan
Why wouldn't they cut corners?
They're already lying to you.
adrienne iapalucci
I know.
joe rogan
Why wouldn't they put a cheaper chip in the laptops?
Wouldn't they put cheaper screens?
If you want to use like Gorilla Glass and AMOLED displays, that's just expensive.
Use some cheap-ass, you know, five-year-ago bullshit and just sell it to morons.
adrienne iapalucci
If it lasts for a couple years, that's great.
joe rogan
Five-year-old bullshit still works.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
unidentified
It does.
joe rogan
It's not great, though.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, I drop my phone all the time.
joe rogan
Try to register with the Apple Store, and they're like, nah, player.
That's ain't an iPhone.
adrienne iapalucci
That's why you need Riot, so you can steal the stuff.
It all comes back to that.
Stealing all this stuff.
joe rogan
But someone's got to make this stuff.
Slaves.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, in China.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, what percentage of...
Let's ask this.
What percentage of our electronics is made in China?
adrienne iapalucci
Probably 95%.
joe rogan
Well, a lot gets made in Japan and South Korea.
Like Sony, huge.
Samsung, huge.
They're probably one of the biggest electronic makers.
They make everything.
They make refrigerators.
They make smart refrigerators where you can check your refrigerator with your phone to see what the fuck's in there.
adrienne iapalucci
To make sure your refrigerator's not doing something.
joe rogan
Yeah, checking on you.
Keeping an eye on that motherfucker.
adrienne iapalucci
What's going on in there?
jamie vernon
What are you doing?
adrienne iapalucci
How many ice cubes have you made?
joe rogan
You lazy bitch.
Where's my fucking ice cubes from your refrigerator or from your freezer?
Are they the dirtiest ice cubes of all time?
adrienne iapalucci
I say 95%.
joe rogan
I don't ever want those in my glass.
jamie vernon
I think that Apple stuff is all coming from China.
joe rogan
You nailed it.
Oh yeah, all the stuff that actually gets made from Apple.
That's all China.
Laptops and computer monitors.
China supplies 92% of US imports.
Phones.
China supplies 74% of US phone imports.
So Samsung does not use China for phones.
And I don't know if it's an ethical thing or what, but I think they make their phones in India and somewhere else.
Maybe Vietnam.
adrienne iapalucci
Is there a correlation between them, like, stopping killing baby girls in China with making all of this stuff?
Or they're like, let's keep them alive so we can have them...
joe rogan
No, I think they just woke up and said, we have, like, 85% men.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
And all these poor women are fucked.
You know, like...
adrienne iapalucci
They have to keep fucking all these guys.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
There's not enough women.
joe rogan
They have to live with like three or four guys just to balance it out.
adrienne iapalucci
Gross.
joe rogan
Take turns.
jamie vernon
They're not as highly competitive in China, it sounds like.
adrienne iapalucci
Hmm.
joe rogan
They relocated some of the manufacturing from China to Southeast Asia to avoid high labor costs.
What?
unidentified
Those slaves are expensive, Adrian.
joe rogan
Samsung also has been able to compete with Chinese brands like Xiaomi, Oppo, and Vivo in the Chinese market.
Interesting.
adrienne iapalucci
I've never even heard of those brands.
joe rogan
Yeah, they make...
Xiaomi makes high-end Android phones.
In the rest of the world, Android phones are huge.
adrienne iapalucci
I know.
joe rogan
Because everybody uses WhatsApp.
They don't really give a fuck about iMessage.
adrienne iapalucci
WhatsApp is big in the Hispanic community, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, WhatsApp is huge.
I have friends that only talk to me on WhatsApp.
adrienne iapalucci
I do, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, well, Zuckerberg owns it.
You know, he owns it.
But I don't talk to him other than WhatsApp.
He's a WhatsApp, but he owns WhatsApp.
adrienne iapalucci
You talk to him on WhatsApp?
unidentified
Yeah, I talk to him on WhatsApp.
adrienne iapalucci
What does he say?
joe rogan
We talk shit about things.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah?
He's like, what's up?
joe rogan
He's a nice guy.
He really is.
No, he's a billionaire.
Yeah, he's a nice guy.
Because when someone's, like, really rich, like, oh, that guy's not a person.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, but he didn't start out rich, though, did he?
joe rogan
No.
adrienne iapalucci
Of course not.
joe rogan
He invented Facebook.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, but some people are rich and their families had money the whole time.
unidentified
That's weird.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's weird, right?
Because then you're insulated from birth and then you go right into a deeper layer of insulation where you're completely disconnected from people.
That's when you get into Bill Gates category.
Let's figure out a way to block out the sun.
adrienne iapalucci
You're so rich where you're like, I really want to fuck shit up for everyone.
joe rogan
Imagine, like, I was reading this thing about Bill Gates' idea to block out the sun, and oopsies, oopsies, Jamie.
adrienne iapalucci
Sorry.
joe rogan
No worries.
adrienne iapalucci
I'll clean it.
I'm a woman.
unidentified
I'll clean it.
adrienne iapalucci
I know my place.
joe rogan
They were talking about Bill Gates has some plan to stop global warming and shoot particles into the air to block out the sun.
And people are like, hey, do you know how many fucking people are on Earth?
You can't just come up with that idea and try it.
What about the rest of us?
You don't need vitamin D. But imagine being so ridiculous.
You're so wealthy that you think, oh, I could just block the sun.
adrienne iapalucci
I kind of love it.
I kind of love that this guy's so nuts.
joe rogan
He is nuts.
adrienne iapalucci
And then you're like, I'm just going to stop water from happening.
I love so many of the things that can do that much damage to the world.
joe rogan
I think people should just stop eating meat.
And then he just tries to get everybody to eat stupid fucking fake meat.
adrienne iapalucci
That's fine, but imagine blocking out the sun.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
Yeah.
He's also buying farmland.
adrienne iapalucci
To do what?
joe rogan
Who fucking knows?
Probably grow his fake meat food.
adrienne iapalucci
Like GMO shit?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, fake meat is made out of plant protein, and so you have to grow plants.
adrienne iapalucci
I've never had it.
joe rogan
It's nasty.
adrienne iapalucci
I bet it's disgusting.
joe rogan
The thing about it is, like, if you want to have healthy vegetarian food, go eat Indian food.
It tastes delicious, it's good for you, and it's vegetarian.
Like, it just doesn't have to pretend to be a cheeseburger.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
The fake cheeseburger stuff is all seed oils.
adrienne iapalucci
Right, just eat legumes and whatever you're gonna eat.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can do it.
If you want to eat healthy and have delicious food, Indian food is the way to go.
There's an Indian food restaurant in Woodland Hills I used to go to all the time.
It was this cool place.
It was like everybody spoke Hindi and you went in there and you had to just guess what you were eating.
Everything was vegetarian.
adrienne iapalucci
That's pretty scary to me.
joe rogan
Oh, it was super, super authentic.
It was like there's this weird offshoot Indian community and so they had this Indian grocery store.
And then in the back of the Indian grocery store, they had this cafe, and it was all Indian food.
It was really good, though.
adrienne iapalucci
They use a lot of spices, too.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They know how to spice the shit out of those vegetables.
But it was good.
It was like delicious vegetables.
adrienne iapalucci
It's pretty healthy.
It's very healthy.
It's like vegetables and all that stuff's pretty good.
joe rogan
Also, they use a lot of turmeric and curcumin and all those spices.
That's all anti-inflammatory turmeric.
unidentified
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, you have to be close to a bathroom, but it is pretty good.
joe rogan
Let's go.
adrienne iapalucci
I'm going to eat this on the run.
joe rogan
But that's my point is like if you want to fucking eat vegetarian, if you want to eat vegetables only, there's a way to do it that tastes good and you don't have to pretend you're eating a fucking burger.
adrienne iapalucci
Those burgers are nasty.
I guess you just feel left out.
Like what is the point of pretending to eat that?
joe rogan
Well, it's because the people quit eating meat.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
I understand that.
joe rogan
No, they quit and then they want the meat back.
They wish they could have the meat.
Oh, you can pretend you're eating the meat.
It even bleeds just like a burger.
adrienne iapalucci
Gross.
joe rogan
It's all gross.
adrienne iapalucci
Just eat a burger or eat beans.
joe rogan
It's also super-duper unhealthy for you.
adrienne iapalucci
It can't be healthy to manufacture it like that.
joe rogan
It's so processed.
If you want to eat vegetables, this is how you eat them.
Come out of the ground, clean them up.
adrienne iapalucci
Put some spices.
unidentified
Cook them.
joe rogan
That's a vegetable.
You don't run it through fucking machines and glop it up with oils and extract things and compress it.
Shut the fuck up.
adrienne iapalucci
You ever see what Tempe looks like?
joe rogan
Oh, it's nasty.
adrienne iapalucci
I know.
My friend was eating it one time.
I was like, that looks disgusting.
joe rogan
I was watching the production of tofu from scratch with all these machines.
Why would you ever think that's natural?
adrienne iapalucci
And tofu doesn't taste good.
I mean, I know it picks up the flavor, whatever it is, but on its own it has no taste.
joe rogan
No.
On its own it has no taste.
It's a crude source of protein that doesn't have a lot of amino acids in it.
It's not as bioavailable.
But you can live on it.
You can live on vegetables.
You can do it.
It's not advisable.
adrienne iapalucci
You just don't have energy, though.
joe rogan
No, you're missing so many things.
You're missing creatine, you're missing a bunch of amino acids, you're missing vitamin B12. There's a bunch of things you're going to have to supplement with.
You know, there's ways people supplement that can mitigate some of that.
Algae is a good one because algae is kind of a life form that's different and you can get certain vitamins from algae that you can't get from just like plants that grow above ground.
adrienne iapalucci
This sounds disgusting.
joe rogan
It does sound disgusting.
You know what vegans should really consider adopting into their diet?
Mollusks.
Because mollusks are actually more primitive than plants.
You've got to go over the fact they move.
Because Venus flytraps move too.
unidentified
They do.
joe rogan
Would you feel bad about eating a Venus flytrap salad?
If you do, you're a cuckoo person.
You're not just a vegetarian.
You're a cuckoo person.
Now you think the Venus flytrap is smarter than, like, cabbage?
That's stupid.
That doesn't make any sense.
adrienne iapalucci
Do vegetarians not eat any vegetables either?
Aren't there some people that believe, like, all that's...
joe rogan
Oh, fruitarians.
That's a fruitarian, yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
So then what do they eat?
joe rogan
Well, those people eat cancer.
They die.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, that's crazy.
joe rogan
That shit's so bad for you to just only eat fruit.
You're overwhelmed with sugar.
You're eating sugar all day long.
Sugar should be something you have every now and then, I think.
I mean, I think sugar is generally, it causes all sorts of inflammation.
It's not really good for you.
It tastes great, but it's not good for you.
adrienne iapalucci
You mean like fruit sugar?
joe rogan
Even fruit sugar.
I think you should get fruit sugar in the form of fruit only.
You definitely shouldn't get it in orange juice.
Orange juice is no different than drinking a Coca-Cola.
adrienne iapalucci
But what if it's like 100% just orange juice?
joe rogan
Doesn't matter.
Your body's not used to processing all that liquid sugar.
Yeah, exactly the same way.
Maybe even worse.
Because some, like my daughter once got one of them little apple juices from Disneyland.
And she looks at it and she goes, Jesus Christ, this has 18 grams of sugar in it.
This little tiny thing.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, fruit.
joe rogan
Like, what is a Coca-Cola, Jamie?
Is it 30?
Let's guess.
How many grams of sugar do you think Coca-Cola has in it?
adrienne iapalucci
Probably about 40. 40?
Okay.
joe rogan
I say about 30. What do you think, Jamie?
Like 30-ish?
39. 39?
Okay.
That's it?
jamie vernon
Sorry, that's what it is.
joe rogan
Okay.
So what is 12 ounces of orange juice?
12 ounces of, let's say, fresh-squeezed.
So you think you're eating healthy.
Fresh-squeezed orange juice.
adrienne iapalucci
You still have to be better off having a fruit juice over a Diet Coke.
Or not a Diet Coke, a regular Coke.
joe rogan
Not much.
Well, they're both fructose, right?
About 30. 30, yeah.
Real similar.
Real similar to Coca-Cola.
You do get vitamin C. You get that.
But if you want orange juice, you should get it from eating oranges.
Sure.
Your body knows what to do with that.
Your body gets a slice of orange and goes, I didn't do this.
This is good.
adrienne iapalucci
There's plenty of fiber in there.
Okay, so let me answer this.
If you're drinking orange juice, how come your body doesn't recognize that as an orange?
joe rogan
Because it's going straight to your liver.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
There's no breaking down of fiber.
And you're getting a dose equivalent to eating eight oranges immediately.
adrienne iapalucci
Okay.
joe rogan
Your body's like, what the fuck is this?
That's why soda's so bad for you.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
Your body's like, what the fuck is this?
adrienne iapalucci
Well, I stopped eating sugar.
joe rogan
Totally.
adrienne iapalucci
I only have fruit, but other than that, I don't have any cookies or cake or any of that stuff.
joe rogan
How do you feel?
adrienne iapalucci
I feel better.
I mean, I lost a ton of weight.
unidentified
You did?
joe rogan
You look great.
adrienne iapalucci
Thanks.
joe rogan
How much did you lose?
adrienne iapalucci
From the last time I was here, probably like 45, 50 pounds, but I also was working out, too.
joe rogan
How do your joints feel?
They must feel so much lighter.
adrienne iapalucci
They do, but I have a friend who's like, losing weight, it doesn't matter how much you weigh, it doesn't weigh on your joints.
And I'm like, you know that's not true.
joe rogan
That doesn't make any sense.
adrienne iapalucci
I know, but you just kind of have to let people think that, because what am I going to do, fight with you about it?
Just, okay, fine.
joe rogan
She said it doesn't make a difference in your joints?
adrienne iapalucci
It doesn't make a difference how much you weigh on your knees.
joe rogan
Is it a guy or a girl?
adrienne iapalucci
A girl.
joe rogan
Hmm.
adrienne iapalucci
And I was like, okay.
I was staying at her house, too, and I was like, I'm not going to fight with you about this.
joe rogan
I used to notice the difference when I was fighting, when I would lose weight, when I would compete.
So I used to weigh like 155 pounds, and I had to compete at 140. And just that 15-pound weight you felt.
Oh, yeah.
I felt so light.
I felt so light on my feet.
adrienne iapalucci
You feel a total difference.
joe rogan
Well, I work out with a vest.
I put a weight vest on.
So it's a 25-pound weight vest, and I do all these bodyweight exercises.
That 25 pounds doesn't seem like much.
I get that thing off me, I'm like...
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, I mean my back.
Everything feels better.
joe rogan
Of course.
Your joints, everything.
You're overstrapped.
But your legs are probably strong as fuck.
I used to say that about Ralphie Mae.
I'm like, bro, if you could lose weight, you could kick through a fucking building.
adrienne iapalucci
But I think your knees are just like, we need a break.
joe rogan
Right, but they will get a break.
They're going to get a break because you're going to lose 400 pounds.
adrienne iapalucci
If you lose 400 pounds, sure.
joe rogan
I mean, if I was looking at his legs, I'm like, the muscle you must have in your legs, you go upstairs.
You know, like, Ralphie was performing in the belly room.
adrienne iapalucci
I don't know how many people are going upstairs.
joe rogan
Ralphie went into the belly room, so he had to go upstairs.
You remember the belly room of the store?
That's a fucking old school staircase.
adrienne iapalucci
But I mean, how often are you doing that?
joe rogan
Well, he's walking a lot.
Because he was always walking.
Just walking.
Imagine if...
Okay, I weigh 205 pounds.
If I had to put on a...
What did Ralphie weigh in his prime, if you had to guess?
adrienne iapalucci
I have no idea.
joe rogan
500 pounds?
If I had to put on 300 pounds.
And I'm in shape.
Imagine if I had to walk around the comedy store with a dumbbell on my back or a barbell on my back with 300 pounds on it.
I can make it like 30 steps and then have to put it down and take a break for like 5 minutes and then try to pick it up again and I'd be exhausted.
This dude's just walking around all day like that.
adrienne iapalucci
But if you're walking around that much, you're gonna lose a lot of weight too.
jamie vernon
He almost lost that much weight.
joe rogan
That's what you lost?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
He weighed almost 800 pounds.
joe rogan
Yo!
adrienne iapalucci
And just walking up the stairs at the belly room, he lost 300 pounds?
joe rogan
Just once.
One time.
adrienne iapalucci
One time?
That's crazy.
Why are we not having all the fat people walking?
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
He used to weigh over 800 pounds.
He underwent gastric bypass surgery and lost 350 pounds, but he struggled with his weight.
He blew out his gastric bypass twice.
unidentified
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
Well, the thing is, I mean, a lot of people that get those surgeries, if you're not figuring out the reason why you're overeating like that, it doesn't matter.
You can still gain the weight back if you eat small meals all day long.
I have friends that have gotten it, and you just eat small meals all day long, and you're just still gaining the weight back.
joe rogan
At least maintain your weight.
unidentified
You can't keep as much in there at a time as a giant plate of food, but No, but if you eat little meals all day and graze, you'll gain the weight back.
adrienne iapalucci
I know people that have had that surgery and you're like, oh, you just gained a lot of your weight back.
joe rogan
Right, so they're not eating because they're hungry.
They're eating because they're crazy.
adrienne iapalucci
Well, they're eating, right.
It's like the same way people abuse anything, right?
Like if it's alcohol or sex or drugs, you know, it's the same thing, right?
You're trying to like numb out and fill a void.
So if you don't actually address that, you're not going to just stop eating.
joe rogan
So someone told me this.
Find out if this is true.
Does Bruno Mars owe the MGM a ton of money from gambling?
Is that true?
jamie vernon
I've seen the story where someone claims they were there.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've talked to someone who would know who claims it's true, but isn't that crazy, if true, that even a guy like Bruno Mars, who's this super wealthy, super famous, super talented singer...
adrienne iapalucci
It doesn't mean you don't have issues, though.
joe rogan
Right, but the gambling one is a nutty one.
adrienne iapalucci
Well, my dad was a gambler.
jamie vernon
How about MGM? He has no debt.
joe rogan
Because MGM probably made some sort of a deal.
jamie vernon
Right.
joe rogan
Because doesn't he have some sort of...
He has no debt with MGM. Wink, wink.
So they have a deal.
So they have some sort of a...
He has a residency there, right?
jamie vernon
I think so.
joe rogan
The word is.
jamie vernon
Right.
joe rogan
I don't know if he's got a gambling problem.
adrienne iapalucci
My dad was a gambler, and he made no money.
It's the craziest thing to be a gambler when you have no real money.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a crazy one.
It's a crazy addiction.
It's an addiction that I first saw when I started hanging out in pool halls when I was 23. I became addicted to playing pool.
I was playing it all the time.
I blew my knee out.
I needed to get knee surgery.
And when I blew my knee out, I couldn't work out.
So I had to wait for surgery.
And so, like, my ACL was all fucked up.
And so I just started playing pool with one of my friends, and I became addicted to playing pool.
And I would go there all the time.
Because as a comedian, I didn't have a job.
I just would go on stage at night, and during the daytime, I'd hang out in pool halls.
And at nighttime, I'd hang out in pool halls.
And I'd just...
Got around these people that I've never known anybody like that before.
Just fully addicted to gambling all day long.
They would go to the racetrack.
They would go to off-track betting.
adrienne iapalucci
My dad used to take me to OTB as a kid.
That's brutal.
And that's when they used to let you smoke.
You just come home smelling like smoke.
unidentified
It's disgusting.
joe rogan
And you're hanging out in there as a kid.
adrienne iapalucci
Me and my sister, we would hang out with my dad in the OTB for hours.
joe rogan
I feel like such a good dad.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
You're a way better dad.
It wouldn't be bad if my dad was gambling and he was like, you know, he was a mailman.
You can't do both of those things at the same time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a crazy one.
Who was it that told us that the dad was gambling so hard they lost their house?
Fuck, I forgot the whole story, but it's just...
You don't hear a story very rarely about a gambling addict who kills it and they retire in Vegas.
adrienne iapalucci
No, because you keep going until you eventually lose everything.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a dark one.
Did you see Uncut Gems?
adrienne iapalucci
No.
joe rogan
You should see it.
Well, it might be too close to home.
It doesn't matter.
It's Adam Sandler, I think, his best movie ever.
And it wasn't even a comedy at all.
It's a drama.
He fucking kills in it, too.
It's so good.
adrienne iapalucci
I have heard other people say that.
joe rogan
It's so good.
adrienne iapalucci
I gotta watch it.
joe rogan
But it's, for me, like, having known those people, and it's so filled with anxiety.
Because it's a sports betting thing.
Sports bettors are the craziest ones.
Because there's so many different ways to bet.
You can bet the spread.
You can bet parlays.
You can do all...
adrienne iapalucci
My dad, for a while, my dad was like taking money from his pension, which like, yeah.
So when he died, there was like really not that much money.
My mom was forcing him to go to Gamblers Anonymous while he was also still gambling.
joe rogan
It's not going to help.
adrienne iapalucci
If you don't really want to stop, you're not going to stop.
joe rogan
I think food is the hardest one.
Because food addiction, you always have to eat food, right?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
All the other ones, you can kind of just not do them anymore.
adrienne iapalucci
That's why I stopped eating sugar.
Because once I start eating it, I can't stop.
unidentified
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
So then once it's like out of your system, you don't crave it anymore.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Well, that's because your gut bacteria changes.
adrienne iapalucci
That makes sense.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What is it?
Candida?
Is that what it is?
There's a specific type of gut flora that consumes sugar and it thrives on sugar.
And with people that eat a lot of sugar, it's very prominent in their gut bacteria.
And it literally changes your brain.
It changes your chemistry.
It changes your mood.
adrienne iapalucci
Doesn't sugar also just like a breeding ground for cancer, like when you have cancer?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
One of the things they tell you if you get cancer, stop all sugar, get on a ketogenic diet.
So get your body to eat high fats.
Yeah, eat a lot of macadamia nuts and things you get a lot of fat from.
And just that's, your body starts burning fat, which you feel so much better when you live like that.
Your brain works better.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, for sure.
You're just like in a brain fog.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure for me.
I mean, you know, I'm Italian, so I grew up eating pasta and bread and pizza.
It was like common.
And when I stopped doing it, when I went like on a carnivore diet, the first thing that I thought that was really bizarre was I wasn't hungry during the day.
I never got this famished starvation feeling.
adrienne iapalucci
Isn't it like if you're eating stuff that's high in carbohydrates like that, doesn't your blood sugar drop really quickly and stuff?
joe rogan
Yeah, it spikes when you eat it.
unidentified
Or spikes.
joe rogan
It's insulin.
Your body produces a ton of insulin.
You want your body to run on ketones.
If your body runs on ketones, it works better.
One of the things that I noticed almost immediately was when I came in to do podcasts, I was much better at it.
My brain, just from a performance enhancing perspective, my brain functions better.
I can form sentences better.
adrienne iapalucci
If I was eating a lot of sugar, you almost get that same hungover feeling as if you drink.
I've had that where if you binge eat sugar and then the next day you're like, oh my god, I feel so hungover.
joe rogan
It's similar.
It's similar.
It's not as extreme because you're probably not dehydrated too.
But yeah, your body's like, what are you doing to me, man?
adrienne iapalucci
It's not good.
joe rogan
It's not good.
adrienne iapalucci
Not at all.
joe rogan
But it's so delicious.
adrienne iapalucci
It is, sure.
joe rogan
Cake is so fucking good while you're eating it.
adrienne iapalucci
I know.
While you're eating it, you're like, God, this is so good.
That's how my dad felt gambling on the horses.
He's like, this feels so good.
So they would send us to Catholic school, and he would not pay tuition, and then they would call me in to talk to me, and I'd have to go talk to my dad.
joe rogan
And he was gambling the money away?
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, my dad was always gambling.
joe rogan
I think people need some excitement in their life, you know?
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
And it's like, why are you doing that?
What are you trying to numb out?
Because God knows what he was...
You know what I mean?
Like, everyone's kind of trying to fix their problems from their childhood or they're not.
joe rogan
There's that.
But I think with gambling, it's also...
unidentified
The thrill.
joe rogan
It's excitement.
adrienne iapalucci
Yes.
joe rogan
And you get addicted to just having a purpose and having excitement.
Your purpose is to figure out when the Knicks are going to win by 17 points.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
And if they win, you win.
And then, yes!
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
I'm alive!
adrienne iapalucci
It, like, spikes you.
You're just, like, that feeling of, like, winning and then that feeling of losing.
joe rogan
Well, that's the craziest thing about the Adam Sandler movie.
There's a moment in it, spoiler alert, where he does make this big win.
And so with this big win, he's gonna be able to pay all these people off.
They're trying to kill him.
And he immediately doubles down and puts it on another...
And you're like, what?
What the fuck are you doing?
adrienne iapalucci
Because that's the thing.
You're chasing that high constantly.
I had a friend who's a huge gambler and he lost so much money and no matter how much he gambles, if he's up $15,000, he's still chasing that $8 million loss.
So it doesn't matter.
He's constantly chasing that big loss and no matter how much he wins, he's like, yeah, but I still lost all that other money, so I'm going to keep chasing this.
joe rogan
My good friend Dana White is a gambling addict.
adrienne iapalucci
And also, if you're super rich, you just have more to lose.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
He goes hard.
We went to visit him at Green Valley.
Was it Green?
No.
River?
Red Rocks?
Red Rocks.
We went to visit him at Red Rocks.
Jamie and I went.
And when we got there, he was $600,000 down.
When we got there.
adrienne iapalucci
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Playing blackjack.
But at the end of the night, he stayed till like 6 in the morning.
He was $600,000 up.
So he won that money back, and then he got him for $600,000.
unidentified
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
That's crazy.
joe rogan
He's there all the time!
He loves it!
But he's worth, I don't know what he's worth, hundreds of millions of dollars.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
He can get away with that.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
Not my dad who's making 40 grand a year.
joe rogan
But it's nutty that even a wealthy guy, you would think, you're that wealthy, why would you want to gamble?
adrienne iapalucci
It's just the feeling.
There's nothing that replicates that feeling that you get when you're winning or losing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a real drug.
adrienne iapalucci
For sure.
joe rogan
And it's a weird one.
It's really weird.
It hijacks your human reward system that's built to solve problems and overcome adversaries and conquer and get conquered.
It's hijacking that little part of your brain.
adrienne iapalucci
I kind of want to gamble.
joe rogan
Right now, right?
adrienne iapalucci
Right now.
Let's just fucking go.
unidentified
If you were a gambler, what do you think your game would be?
adrienne iapalucci
Whenever I do it, it's just like slots.
joe rogan
Really?
That's the dumbest one.
adrienne iapalucci
I know, because I don't really know how to play blackjack or anything.
So I'm just like...
unidentified
I'm going to lose all my money.
joe rogan
Well, you want to learn, though?
adrienne iapalucci
I would like to learn, yeah.
I did learn blackjack a little bit.
My friend was teaching me.
joe rogan
I think I could learn blackjack craps.
I'm like, you might as well be trying to teach me how to read, you know, ancient Hebrew.
adrienne iapalucci
The weird one to me is, like, someone who puts all the money on the red or black.
joe rogan
Oh, roulette?
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a nutty one.
adrienne iapalucci
It is, because don't you have to get the number?
How do you even bet on that?
It's such a chance.
joe rogan
I think there's a bunch of different ways you can bet.
I think you can bet red or black.
You can bet specific numbers.
I think there's a bunch of different ways, but if you wanted to bet at all, red or black, I think you can.
unidentified
I know that.
joe rogan
I think you can bet like 100 grand on one roll.
I think it's going to come out red.
adrienne iapalucci
I don't know.
I just imagine like the feeling you get putting, say you put a hundred grand down and then you lose and you're like, no!
That's my children's tuition.
There goes our house.
joe rogan
But that thing addicts people.
I mean, that's the argument why casinos shouldn't be everywhere because people would just, everywhere they would be falling into gambling addiction.
adrienne iapalucci
For the most, I mean, casinos, like there's one in Yonkers in New York.
It's so depressing.
It's just all old people that are there on disability just sitting there and they're doing that thing.
unidentified
The slots.
adrienne iapalucci
The slots and you're smoking.
unidentified
Just having something exciting.
adrienne iapalucci
I know.
joe rogan
Just waiting to die.
adrienne iapalucci
It's very sad.
You're waiting to die.
joe rogan
It's a dark thing that you just sit these people in front of those things and just they press buttons.
And all the lights are going on.
So the little brain is getting activity.
adrienne iapalucci
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
My mother told me that my grandmother was like a big gambler and she also didn't have money at the time.
It's crazy when people were poor are gambling.
And she would lose the money all the time, like the rent money.
My grandfather used to hit her.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
adrienne iapalucci
I know.
And I was like, I guess he didn't hit her hard enough to learn.
Because she kept doing it.
joe rogan
It didn't work.
adrienne iapalucci
She just kept doing it.
unidentified
My grandmother used to run the numbers for the mob.
adrienne iapalucci
Interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah, she actually went to jail.
She went to jail for like six months.
adrienne iapalucci
You really are Italian.
I didn't even know you were Italian.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, my grandmother, she was addicted to the numbers, and she would always talk about the numbers.
unidentified
Like, I was gonna bet this, that, and that, but this one came through, and I changed my mind.
joe rogan
She was always like, changed her mind at the last minute.
adrienne iapalucci
That's gotta be the whole time, where you're just like, should I do this number, or should I do that number?
joe rogan
Most conversations I had with her were about either ghosts, psychics, or the numbers.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, do psychics work?
Because wouldn't you think they could predict the numbers?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think psychic phenomenon is an emerging property of human consciousness that's not quite there yet.
I think that language didn't develop overnight.
I think eyesight didn't develop overnight.
And I think psychic connection between human beings is a real thing that nobody...
I think some people are better at it.
They have more of a gene for it or more of a...
It could be like a biochemistry thing.
It could be a psychology thing.
There's something that you connect to sometimes where you know something.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
But you don't know why you know it.
When you know someone's going to call and you're thinking about someone and they call you.
I think that's real.
I think it's just not...
You can't put it on a scale.
I think the problem is it's too ethereal.
It's like too ephemeral rather.
It's too...
It's not quite there yet, but I think it's an emerging thing that's happening.
adrienne iapalucci
Would you want to know the day you're gonna die if you could find out?
joe rogan
No.
adrienne iapalucci
Would you want to know how you're gonna die?
joe rogan
No.
No.
I'm interested in while I'm alive, just living.
adrienne iapalucci
I would like to know the day.
joe rogan
I wouldn't want to know.
I don't want to know.
adrienne iapalucci
Because then I would just take a lot more chances.
joe rogan
You'd be freaking out the last few days.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure, but I would probably do a lot of stuff now if I knew I was going to die at 70 or 80. Well, you probably are going to die at 70 or 80. Yeah, but you don't know for sure.
joe rogan
Well, technology could come along and extend that quite a bit.
adrienne iapalucci
Because then I would try and see if I could die before.
Just run across the highway.
joe rogan
Really?
Just beat the system?
adrienne iapalucci
See if I could beat the system.
joe rogan
You could always jump off a bridge.
Imagine that.
adrienne iapalucci
George Washington Bridge, if I was going to do it, that's the bridge to go off of.
joe rogan
Do people do that?
adrienne iapalucci
I'm sure they do.
But you've got to do it when it screws enough people like Labor Day weekend or something.
Just hold that traffic up.
joe rogan
I had a friend who jumped off the Golden Gate.
adrienne iapalucci
I guess he died.
joe rogan
He did.
adrienne iapalucci
Do you ever see that documentary about the people that live?
joe rogan
No, I haven't seen it, but I've heard of it.
unidentified
I know about it.
adrienne iapalucci
It's interesting because some of the people that lived are like, as soon as you jump, you regret it.
joe rogan
Yeah, of course.
It's like your body's freaking out.
It's like, oh my god.
You have three seconds to think about life before you plummet 75 miles an hour into the ocean.
adrienne iapalucci
They always stop traffic, too, on the bridge.
joe rogan
Which is weird.
adrienne iapalucci
Right, because you're like, they're already dead.
joe rogan
Pop out of the water and land in the middle of the road.
adrienne iapalucci
Just go on the ground and look for them.
What are we doing up here?
Why can't I go over the bridge?
joe rogan
Why are you stopping traffic on the bridge?
I guess it's to make sure that nobody pushed them.
Look for evidence of fingernails clawing at the poles.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure, but the highway is fine, though.
joe rogan
I agree.
adrienne iapalucci
Just look on the edges.
joe rogan
I think whenever they get a chance to shut things down, they like it.
adrienne iapalucci
One time I got hit by a car, a drunk driver, and they shut the highway down.
All the cars are there and you kind of just are like, it's amazing.
joe rogan
This is all from me.
unidentified
We did this.
joe rogan
Yeah, fuck you.
It's kind of weird.
adrienne iapalucci
You guys aren't picking your kids up.
joe rogan
Yeah, sorry.
adrienne iapalucci
Because this drunk driver decided to hit me.
joe rogan
Oh, guess we're going to shit your pants.
Sorry.
Not going to make it home in time.
adrienne iapalucci
That's true.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, it's true.
adrienne iapalucci
I had a drunk driver hit my car and then asked me if I would help them push their car off the highway.
joe rogan
Oh, that's adorable.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, he was so wrecked.
joe rogan
How drunk was he?
adrienne iapalucci
I don't know.
He went away in handcuffs, but he had an Audi, and it wasn't even his car.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
adrienne iapalucci
He was undocumented.
Oh, Jesus.
I don't even know if he...
Did he have a license?
I don't know, but it was crazy, the whole situation.
He was like, hey, can you push me off the highway?
I was like, probably not.
joe rogan
Goddamn, dude.
That's how people die, too.
A buddy of mine from high school died that way.
He was changing his tire side of a highway.
adrienne iapalucci
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's so dangerous.
People don't fucking pay attention.
adrienne iapalucci
They don't, especially if it's late at night.
joe rogan
Well, especially now.
This was many years ago before cell phones when this kid died.
But this, like, now?
The odds are, like, when I see people on motorcycles, I'm like, Goddamn, that's so risky.
adrienne iapalucci
It's very risky.
joe rogan
So few people are paying attention.
I see people texting all the time.
adrienne iapalucci
Everyone is texting all the time.
I would rather drive with drunk drivers than people texting and driving.
Because they're always all over the road.
joe rogan
All over the road.
And not only that, the amount of space you cover.
While you look down at your phone for a couple of seconds and type in a word, the amount of space you cover if you're going 60 miles an hour is really crazy.
adrienne iapalucci
Of course.
And then you're also not paying attention to the other people who are texting and driving.
joe rogan
Exactly.
adrienne iapalucci
It really is just like...
joe rogan
Chaos.
adrienne iapalucci
Maybe I'll get home, maybe I won't.
joe rogan
Why don't we all have bumper cars?
adrienne iapalucci
Let me ask you that.
joe rogan
Wouldn't it be better if everybody had a big rubber thing all around the outside of the car so we could just kind of bounce off of each other?
unidentified
Probably.
adrienne iapalucci
That would be a good idea.
But then you also need people to die because we're just too overpopulated.
joe rogan
That's where fentanyl comes in.
adrienne iapalucci
Exactly.
Give everyone fentanyl.
joe rogan
Like, if you were going to fix the homeless problem and you weren't going to use fentanyl, what would you do?
adrienne iapalucci
I'm giving them fentanyl.
Because it's like a nice way to go out.
joe rogan
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
It's quick.
joe rogan
It is quick.
adrienne iapalucci
And you're so happy, and then you're dead.
joe rogan
They have Narcan everywhere, though.
They just bring people back to life.
But the thing is, it's like...
adrienne iapalucci
I never see Narcan anywhere.
joe rogan
If you weren't going to, like for real, if you were just objective, you weren't looking at this in terms of what's the kind thing to do, and you wanted to clean up the homeless situation.
adrienne iapalucci
Well, you have to spend a lot of money on mental health.
joe rogan
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
You know, you have to, like, care about the veterans.
Like, I have a whole joke about this on my special about how, like, we don't really care about veterans.
And I've dated a lot of them, a lot of veterans that, like, come back and they're so screwed up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
And we're not, like, actually helping them.
unidentified
No.
adrienne iapalucci
And a lot of them end up on the street and they're crazy.
But they need, like, a lot of, you know, like, mental health and they have to, you have to, like, kind of figure out how to go back into society.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
I've dated several veterans and they're crazy, understandably.
Understandably.
You can't go to war for eight years and then come back and work at Target.
It's just not a way that that happens.
joe rogan
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
So you would have to be willing to help veterans.
You'd have to spend money on mental health.
But the problem is doing those things doesn't really yield a lot of money.
So people don't want to waste their money into it.
joe rogan
That's what's fucked up.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
They do whatever they can get away with.
And if they can get away with using the veterans and not paying for them to be better, they just do.
adrienne iapalucci
Also, everyone's like, well, they can go to a VA hospital.
It's like, I've seen how hard it is to get services from there, and that's a person that's not really crazy and messed up from war.
unidentified
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
So it's like you're making it so hard for these people that go and serve the country.
joe rogan
I know.
I talked to J.D. Vance about this.
Talked to him about psychedelics.
adrienne iapalucci
What did he say?
joe rogan
Well, he wasn't aware of it, honestly.
And so he was interested in it.
And hopefully, now that he's actually the vice president, I could connect him with some people that could perhaps show him some things and explain to him all the different ways that they've figured out, especially in other countries like in Mexico, to help veterans.
Ibogaine's a big one.
Ibogaine, psilocybin, ayahuasca, all these different psychedelics have shown to have remarkable effects.
adrienne iapalucci
Even for depression, I think people take it.
They microdose.
joe rogan
Yep.
Well, not just microdose.
The Ibogaine one, I've never done that, but what I understand, it's almost like a 24-hour experience that shows you like a movie of your life.
adrienne iapalucci
I don't want to see that.
joe rogan
Well, it shows you apparently, and this is just me hearing what other people have told me, but it explains to you why you have these problems and shows to you what developed, where the issue started.
And by seeing that, you could figure it out.
You go, oh, okay.
Well, I won't do that anymore.
Now I get it.
Now I get what this hole I've been trying to fill is.
I don't need to fill the hole anymore.
adrienne iapalucci
But that's the thing.
I feel like I know what was probably wrong in my childhood.
I know that, but it doesn't fix me.
joe rogan
Right, it's different.
It's not just knowing it, it's like seeing it at almost like a subatomic level.
Like seeing the process, seeing what's going on inside of you and recognize that this is a very bad path to follow.
Not just knowing it and still doing it, not just like not being able to get out of a habit, not being able to get out of a pattern of behavior.
But to see, like, the source of it, the path, where it takes you, and the right way to go.
And to see it laid out, where you go, oh, I could just do this, and just, like, let that go, and move on, and be a better person, be a healthier person, be happier.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so many people that I know have done that.
They've stopped drinking.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Opioids.
Opioids is a big one.
It's a big one that it helps.
Ibogaine does.
And Ibogaine is like completely non-addictive.
Apparently it's a terrible experience and nobody wants to do it again.
adrienne iapalucci
Ibogaine?
joe rogan
Yeah, you do it.
adrienne iapalucci
What is it?
joe rogan
It's from the iboga tree, which is an African tree that...
It's a very bizarre, I don't know what category of psychedelic it's in, but it's not technically, it's not like psilocybin, which is mushrooms.
It's not like dimethyltryptamine, which is ayahuasca.
It's something completely different, some different pathway, but particularly effective.
Again, I've never tried it, but everybody I've talked to that has, particularly effective in curing addictions.
adrienne iapalucci
Interesting.
I've never heard of that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know quite a few guys.
My friend Ed Clay, he actually opened up a place in Mexico because he hurt his back.
He's a jiu-jitsu guy.
A lot of jiu-jitsu guys fuck their backs up.
unidentified
Like, my back's all fucked up.
adrienne iapalucci
And then they probably get hooked on, like, opiates and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, you get an operation or you get a pill.
You know, you need some pain pills because you literally can't tie your shoes because your fucking back is flared up.
And the next thing you know, you're hooked.
And thanks to the Sackler family.
Those sweeties.
adrienne iapalucci
They made so much money, though.
joe rogan
Those fucking monsters.
We were just talking the other day about they started the Valium thing too.
They were responsible for the Valium thing in the 1970s.
Same family.
It's a family of demons.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
Just fucking monsters.
unidentified
And no one's in jail.
adrienne iapalucci
I watched a documentary.
I guess it was about the Sackler family.
joe rogan
Was it the Netflix one?
adrienne iapalucci
I don't know.
There was a couple.
There was one on, I think, Hulu, and then there was one also on Netflix.
joe rogan
Yeah, there was Dope Sick.
adrienne iapalucci
I watched Dope Sick.
That was very good.
joe rogan
What was the Netflix one called, Jamie?
unidentified
Painkiller?
joe rogan
Is that what it's called?
That's the Peter Berg one.
Peter Berg came in and explained it all to us and talked about the documentary.
It's fucking great.
It's so good because it's like they're such demons.
And just to know that people like that exist and walk amongst us, that's it.
unidentified
Well, listen, speaking of Netflix, go watch- Matthew Broderick fucking kills it in that, too.
adrienne iapalucci
Go watch my Netflix special.
joe rogan
Yes.
adrienne iapalucci
The Dark Queen.
joe rogan
The Netflix special.
Tell her.
Where'd you film it?
adrienne iapalucci
We filmed it at the Cellar.
joe rogan
Oh, nice.
Nice.
That must be good for you, right?
Comfortable?
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, just because I'm used to it.
But I gotta tell you, your club is amazing.
I love it.
joe rogan
Thank you.
adrienne iapalucci
I would definitely film something.
unidentified
Well, we love you too.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, I would definitely film my next one there.
joe rogan
Everyone's been trying to get you to move here.
adrienne iapalucci
I'm gonna be moving here.
joe rogan
Oh, shit!
adrienne iapalucci
I'm gonna come here probably like a little bit in December and then I'm going to LA to promote the Dark Queen and then I'll be here in January.
joe rogan
Oh, shit!
adrienne iapalucci
I know.
unidentified
Nice.
adrienne iapalucci
And I'll be seeing Marshall all the time.
joe rogan
So the last time I talked to you about this was in the bar at Mitzi's, you, me, and Bridget.
adrienne iapalucci
That's right.
Ari's been like...
joe rogan
Do we push over the top?
adrienne iapalucci
Well, Ari was like, said the meanest thing to me.
joe rogan
Wanna see the text that Ari sent me?
adrienne iapalucci
Sure, yeah.
joe rogan
He sent me a text like, Adrian's coming to Austin, convinced her to move there.
adrienne iapalucci
He's telling everyone that.
He goes, well, fine, just be a feature the rest of your life.
I was like, alright, Ari, I get it.
joe rogan
I'll find it.
Fuck, there's too many.
There's too many goddamn messages.
adrienne iapalucci
But Ari's excited for the special.
He's like, I think everyone's going to be really upset.
I was like, I hope so.
Listen, I want people to like it, but I also know that it's trigger topics that people are going to be upset by.
joe rogan
Of course, but that's your specialty.
adrienne iapalucci
I know.
joe rogan
You like doing that.
adrienne iapalucci
But that's the thing.
I think people think I'm trying to be dark.
It's just kind of who I am.
joe rogan
Well, you joke around like that offstage as well.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
And I think nothing of saying it.
joe rogan
Well, if you were raised by a guy who took you to a smoke-filled off-track bedding when you were a little girl, when little girls want to go to the park and hang with their friends, and instead you're around a bunch of fucking gamblers and degenerates.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, yeah.
My uncle was a hell's angel.
Everyone's crazy in my family.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's the way you make fun.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, and I had a friend in grammar school that killed himself and we all went to the funeral and then went out after and all of our sense of humor is so dark.
And you're like, oh, that's also where I got it.
joe rogan
Where was this?
adrienne iapalucci
In the Bronx.
joe rogan
The Bronx, yeah.
Well, the Bronx is, that's a high sense of humor type of place because there's just so much fucked up things going on.
adrienne iapalucci
Right, and everyone's like kind of poor.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they have the darkest senses of humor because they've experienced the most.
adrienne iapalucci
My mom also has a dark sense of humor.
joe rogan
Really?
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
So, like, it's just that's kind of passed down, I think.
joe rogan
Well, I think your mom probably experienced a lot of fucked up things, too, obviously.
And she was married to your dad, so that helps.
adrienne iapalucci
She's married to my dad.
joe rogan
Cops have the most fucked up sense of humor.
Joke around with cops.
Once they get comfortable with you.
adrienne iapalucci
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
If they see the worst shit.
All day long.
adrienne iapalucci
Of course.
joe rogan
Yeah, they have the most fucked up sense of humor.
adrienne iapalucci
So do firemen.
joe rogan
100%.
Yep.
adrienne iapalucci
Anyone that has like a high...
joe rogan
EMTs.
adrienne iapalucci
Anyone that has a high...
What is it?
joe rogan
PTSD. PTSD. Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
And I date a lot of guys with PTSD. That's your thing?
And then I just give them more.
It's a cycle of PTSD. All should be hospitalized and institutionalized.
joe rogan
Do you meet guys after shows?
Like, how do you meet them?
Like, they kind of have to know what you do before they see you.
Otherwise, they're going to go, oh, Jesus Christ.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, I've had people like that.
I think the tour preparing for the special was hard because it was just people coming out that didn't know my sense of humor.
And if you don't know that and you're taking a chance on me, I'm not like that person to take a chance on.
joe rogan
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
Or I think sometimes they're like supporting a woman and I'm like, I'm not the right woman to take a chance on and support.
joe rogan
That's okay.
adrienne iapalucci
You're just not going to be happy.
joe rogan
He'd be so mad at you.
adrienne iapalucci
I've had people walk out.
I did that military joke in Texas, and like 20 cowboys just walked out.
And I wasn't even saying anything bad about the military.
I'm like, we just don't care.
We don't care about them.
joe rogan
Some people are just dumb, and they see it as they're, this is my chance to make a protest.
Let me just get up right now.
adrienne iapalucci
But they hung in so long through the show where it was like...
joe rogan
That one was it?
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, it was probably 50 minutes in.
joe rogan
Did you crack jokes about Jesus at all?
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
And they were fine with that?
Maybe they were on the edge.
adrienne iapalucci
They didn't walk.
joe rogan
Maybe Jesus put them to the edge of their sheet.
adrienne iapalucci
It's interesting because both sides have woke things they're upset about.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
You know?
I woke people about Ukraine, the Middle East.
I was doing jokes about the Middle East and this lady was like, next!
joe rogan
I used to have this joke about the Second Coming Project.
Do you know what the Second Coming Project was?
adrienne iapalucci
No.
joe rogan
It was a thing that they were trying to do.
Remember when Dolly the Sheep, when they first cloned Dolly the Sheep?
adrienne iapalucci
Yes.
joe rogan
Well, the idea was that they would take genetic material from the Shroud of Turin and they would clone Jesus.
adrienne iapalucci
Great.
Do it.
joe rogan
And my joke was, well, cloning is not an exact science.
Like, if you want to do it now, like, they had to do, like, 20 dollies before they got one dolly.
Like, before it was real.
A lot of them come out all fucked up.
Like, what happens if you clone Jesus and he comes back with Down syndrome?
And so the whole joke is about following Jesus around and he's, you know, wearing a hockey helmet and turning dog shit into cookies.
adrienne iapalucci
So did they actually do it?
joe rogan
No, they never did it.
Oh, okay.
It's kind of a bullshit thing.
But this lady goes, next subject!
And I just kept going on with it.
I was like, no.
adrienne iapalucci
Religious people are so weird to me.
joe rogan
It's not even a religious thing.
It's just some people just...
They don't want to hear wild things.
They don't want to hear things you're not supposed to say.
They don't hear them all day at work.
unidentified
That's fine.
joe rogan
And they come out at a comedy club and they want to sort of apply...
That's fine.
adrienne iapalucci
But if you're willing to believe a wild story like that, how about believe this other wild thing could happen too?
joe rogan
Well, the thing is, it wasn't totally a wild story.
I think it was people that were ignorant as to the science that were proposing it because they thought this would be the pathway to bring Jesus back.
adrienne iapalucci
What is Jesus going to be doing anyway?
joe rogan
Well, who knows?
I mean, depending upon what that means, right?
If that is the pathway, let's just imagine, okay, everybody is thinking, if you're really religious, you believe that one day we'll have the rapture and Jesus will return.
adrienne iapalucci
Okay.
joe rogan
So if God created us in his image and God instilled in us an insane sense of curiosity that has led people to create things like genetic engineering, And cloning.
And then we have an understanding of genetic material, not where we are now, but maybe in a future sense, where you could literally get a cotton swab from a person and reproduce them.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
That's all they need.
Cotton swabs all they need for 23andMe, right?
You get a little swab in your mouth and they sell your data to China.
adrienne iapalucci
I would never do that.
unidentified
I did it.
joe rogan
I just wanted to know what was going on.
It was all things I knew.
What did you find out?
Mostly Italian, some Irish, 1% Asian, 1.6% African.
adrienne iapalucci
You're 1% Asian?
joe rogan
1% Asian, 1.6% African.
Yeah.
I would think the Asians probably like Genghis Khan shit.
I think Genghis Khan just fucked so many people.
It just got into so many people, so many different places.
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
Yeah.
That guy fucked everybody.
We've talked about it before, but I always forget the number.
There's a certain percentage of people on Earth that have his DNA, and it's astounding.
It's an astounding number.
adrienne iapalucci
It's pretty cool.
joe rogan
Well, he also killed 10% of the population while he was alive.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, and that's why he was repopulating them.
joe rogan
Well, took a lot of slaves, sex slaves.
They called them wives back in those days.
It was different.
But when they would conquer people, he'd just take their wives, take everybody's wives.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, it sounds like the thing you should do.
joe rogan
That was his move.
adrienne iapalucci
It's not bad.
joe rogan
It's interesting that all these years later, he's not thought of as a monster.
He's thought of as a historic figure.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hitler times 100. Sure.
He was fucking insane.
They used to light bodies on fire and then use them as catapults.
They would launch them onto roofs to burn the roofs down.
That's how they would scare people.
Just take victims.
adrienne iapalucci
What a crazy way of doing that.
joe rogan
They did so many insane things.
One of the things they did was when they would capture a city, they would take the generals and all the different people and they would create a platform and lay all these people out and then stack the platform on top of them.
Then they would all climb on top of the platform and eat.
So they would eat lunch while they were crushing these people to death slowly.
adrienne iapalucci
That's crazy.
Were the people dead already?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
They killed them that way.
Yeah.
I think that's how he killed royals.
That was his move for killing royal people.
Like instead of just slaughtering them outright and hacking them, they would just kind of crush them.
They had a bunch of different ways they would kill people.
They would take, when they would capture people, they would use those people at the front of the line and push them towards their own army.
So they would sack a city, capture 100,000 people, take those 100,000 people and put them at the front line and press them to go further into the city, and those people would just get slaughtered in front of them and they would eventually kill everybody there.
adrienne iapalucci
That's crazy.
joe rogan
It was so crazy that there's a guy named Dan Carlin.
He's got an amazing show called Hardcore History.
And he's got this one episode called The Wrath of the Khan.
It's five episodes, but there's one series.
And it's all about Genghis Khan.
And one of the stories is about the Shah of Chorisma.
The Shah is making a trek to Jin China to see what's going on over there.
Like, what do you guys got?
Talk to the king and see what's happening in whoever the fuck's running your city.
And as they're going there, the roads were so fucked up with decayed bodies that they had abandoned the roads because all their wagons were getting stuck in the mud of decaying people.
And they looked in the distance.
They thought it was a snow-covered mountain that they were looking at way in the distance.
It turned out it was a pile of bodies.
They killed a million people and just stacked them on top of each other in the middle of the town.
They killed the entire city.
They killed everyone.
adrienne iapalucci
That's crazy, and there's no one to clean up the bodies.
joe rogan
They just left the bodies.
They didn't give a fuck.
They just kept moving.
adrienne iapalucci
That's wild.
joe rogan
Imagine living back then.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, I know.
Your wheelbarrow is getting stuck in someone's head.
joe rogan
I know.
Yeah.
People were taking gender studies in class today.
Back then.
Back then.
unidentified
They were fucking just running for their lives.
adrienne iapalucci
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
I guess that we get to do stuff that's sometimes so dumb.
And people are just fighting to stay alive.
joe rogan
Well, it's also interesting that, like, over time, that becomes less and less acceptable.
Like, the horrors of Gaza, when we find out about it today, like, everyone's outraged.
Back then, it wouldn't be the same type of horrors, obviously, because they didn't have missiles.
But horrors are just horrors.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure, yeah.
You're just killing people.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So it's way grosser today.
adrienne iapalucci
Well, it's because we also have photos and everything of it, right?
From, like...
joe rogan
Back then, they saw it in real life, which was way worse.
adrienne iapalucci
You had to be there to see it, right?
joe rogan
Right.
But if you were alive in 1200, let's imagine you and I were alive in 1200, how many people do you think we would have seen get slaughtered with swords and arrows and shit in front of us by now?
adrienne iapalucci
Probably a ton.
You become desensitized to it.
joe rogan
It becomes a thing.
adrienne iapalucci
Like when I first started watching The Walking Dead, you're like, I can't believe they just did that.
And then two episodes in, you're like, oh, this is normal to me.
And it's got to be kind of what it would have been like back then.
You watch someone's head get blown off and now you're like, oh yeah, that's just like a Tuesday.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
People get real accustomed to things.
And if you're real accustomed to barbaric living and slaughtering people and lighting them on fire and launching them and catapults onto the thatched roofs of these houses and watch them burn.
unidentified
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
You can't imagine not doing that, if that's all you say.
unidentified
That's what you do.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what we do.
adrienne iapalucci
That's just what we do.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They didn't wash.
They wore their clothes until they rotted off of their skin.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, I mean, I think if they're, like, catapulting dead bodies, it's like, who cares what you're wearing?
joe rogan
Sometimes they just lived off the blood of their horses.
They would just drink the horse's blood.
That's what they sustain themselves with.
adrienne iapalucci
But then you just need your horse to travel.
joe rogan
Yeah, the horse keeps eating.
You don't kill them.
You just cut a little nick in their neck.
adrienne iapalucci
And you just suck a horse's blood?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what they would do.
They would take it and put it in a jug and drink it.
adrienne iapalucci
You really could survive if you were just somewhere by yourself.
unidentified
Yeah, you could.
You.
adrienne iapalucci
I don't think I could, but I think you could survive.
joe rogan
I would need stuff.
adrienne iapalucci
You would need a horse.
joe rogan
You need stuff.
You need physical things.
Like you need shelter and knives and you need something you can start a fire with.
You need something that you can hunt with.
unidentified
Sure.
adrienne iapalucci
But if I had that same stuff, I would be dead and you would thrive.
joe rogan
I wouldn't thrive.
adrienne iapalucci
You would survive.
joe rogan
For a little while.
adrienne iapalucci
I didn't know you could drink horse's blood.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you gotta keep that horse alive.
The horse is gonna die.
The horse is eating dead people.
It's dead.
The horses don't eat meat.
adrienne iapalucci
They don't?
joe rogan
No.
They do occasionally eat birds.
adrienne iapalucci
What if they're starving?
They won't eat like a person?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No, they're not even interested in rotting bodies.
They're herbivores.
But they do occasionally eat birds.
adrienne iapalucci
I'm learning so much.
joe rogan
There's this really fucked up video of this horse following this bird, or it's a cow, following this bird around.
I've seen horses do it too, where they found a ground nesting bird and they just eat it.
And the mother bird's flying at them, pecking at them, like, shut the fuck up, I'm eating your baby.
adrienne iapalucci
At least she tried.
joe rogan
Deer do it all the time.
Deer do it, it's so bad.
Like they had this net that they used to catch birds.
adrienne iapalucci
Okay.
joe rogan
And the deer found the birds in the net.
And so the deer would just go up to the net and feast like a grapevine.
adrienne iapalucci
Right, like a buffet.
joe rogan
And just eat all these birds.
And that's when we started understanding that if a deer catches a bird, slip it and they just eat them.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, why wouldn't you?
joe rogan
Because they eat plants.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, but a bird is kind of like caviar to them, probably.
joe rogan
Probably.
adrienne iapalucci
They're like, mmm, delish.
joe rogan
Yes.
A little foie gras.
adrienne iapalucci
Don't mind if I do.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Have you ever seen cows eat birds?
adrienne iapalucci
No.
joe rogan
Find a video of cows eating birds.
adrienne iapalucci
I've only seen cows eat grass.
joe rogan
They eat birds.
It disturbs the shit out of people who are peaceful.
They're like, you know, I think the less suffering we have, the better.
adrienne iapalucci
But also a bird can fly away.
It's kind of their fault.
joe rogan
Well, not babies.
adrienne iapalucci
Survival of the fittest.
You're dead.
unidentified
It is.
adrienne iapalucci
You're now dead.
joe rogan
It's probably nature's way of keeping baby birds overwhelming us.
unidentified
Why wouldn't you put your birds higher?
adrienne iapalucci
Why wouldn't you put your bird dust higher?
It's on the mom.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Look at this cow.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
He's going right into his mouth.
joe rogan
Yep.
Chomp, chomp, chomp.
Oh, yum, yum, yum.
Isn't it so weird that they decide that they want to eat that?
Just weird.
It's weird that they just decide.
adrienne iapalucci
Look at the little kid.
Right, why wouldn't you just eat the kid?
joe rogan
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
If you're gonna eat that bird.
joe rogan
Kid comes with people.
People have guns.
They figure it out after a while.
unidentified
They don't know.
adrienne iapalucci
You think so?
They know the guns are coming?
joe rogan
They know that people can kill them.
I definitely think they know that people are in control.
I don't think they feel a sense of power.
adrienne iapalucci
Also, you can't eat that kid in one gulp.
joe rogan
Right.
People are going to know.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
If you could just eat it in one gulp.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you could just swallow the kid.
adrienne iapalucci
Who knows what happened to the kid?
joe rogan
I don't know what happened to the kid.
She says, I didn't eat nothing.
adrienne iapalucci
I'll help you look.
unidentified
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
You have a shoe in your mouth.
joe rogan
I'll help you look.
Well, that was a legitimate concern for people hundreds of years ago.
Your kid would get eaten.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
If it was out in the yard, wolves would get eaten.
I mean, that's like the big bad wolf.
That's what all that shit was.
adrienne iapalucci
Little Red Riding Hood.
Imagine like your kid survives cholera and then it just gets eaten.
unidentified
Ugh.
joe rogan
Ugh.
adrienne iapalucci
I can't believe that.
joe rogan
Right, like that's not even that long ago that people were dying of cholera.
adrienne iapalucci
How many years do you think that was?
joe rogan
Who knows?
I mean, how many different fucking diseases killed people just because of poor sanitation?
That's what a lot of that stuff came from.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
A lot of that stuff came from poor sanitation.
I mean, just think about how many people were just dying in these cities because of the plague because they'd throw their shit out the windows.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean...
joe rogan
And there'd be rats and bugs.
unidentified
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
I think I would learn pretty quickly if I threw my shit out the window once that, like, that's not great.
joe rogan
I think you would think that, but there's people in India that shit in the street to this day.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, I watch a video where there's like a parade and they're just throwing shit.
Like, that's part of the parade.
joe rogan
Is that in India?
adrienne iapalucci
Yes.
jamie vernon
Cow dung festival or something.
adrienne iapalucci
Yes.
joe rogan
Cow shit's like a different kind of shit.
It's gross, but it's not like human shit.
adrienne iapalucci
Human shit is the nastiest shit.
I'm sure you don't think anyone's mixing human shit in at this dung festival?
joe rogan
Yeah, I bet they're not.
adrienne iapalucci
I bet they're like, hey, let's spice it up.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's not pure dung.
jamie vernon
It's not as clean as you think, maybe.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ, just throwing at each other.
Imagine, like, this is what you sign up for and they're all smiling.
adrienne iapalucci
I don't get the appeal.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Maybe how, like, you know, if you eat a lot of sugar, you get that candida.
And maybe if you play with shit enough, you get that shit bacteria.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, their teeth look so white because they're covered in shit.
joe rogan
They're just covered in shit.
Guys, shower up.
This is ridiculous.
We have to deal with the infections from the cow dung.
adrienne iapalucci
How are they not...
What is going on here?
joe rogan
We won't get any infections from the cow dung, he says.
Wait, what does he say?
What was his statement?
jamie vernon
Because of the coronavirus and other viruses.
joe rogan
But back it up before that?
Okay, here.
Heaps of cow dung are brought in one place.
We all play in it.
We have had to deal with the coronavirus and other viruses...
So we believe we won't get any infections from the cow dung.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, you see this and then you're like, you know what, it's not that bad that we're doing unboxing videos.
joe rogan
I mean, these guys are basically content creators.
adrienne iapalucci
They are content creators, but they don't know that.
They don't know that we're watching these videos.
I mean, can you imagine just being in there and just throwing shit at someone?
joe rogan
How do they not know now, though?
adrienne iapalucci
I don't know.
joe rogan
It seems like in this day and age.
adrienne iapalucci
I don't think that's an old video either.
joe rogan
Do you see when, like, they give Amazon tribes Starlink and they give them phones?
adrienne iapalucci
You said Amazon.
I just thought of Amazon, like, that I order stuff from.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Not the other one.
adrienne iapalucci
I just want regular Amazon that brings...
I order stuff from Amazon that's like a $3 thing and somebody's driving to my house and dropping off like whatever it is.
Floss.
joe rogan
They figured it out.
I never buy toothbrushes from the fucking store.
I just click a link.
Bam.
adrienne iapalucci
But it's like so...
I'm spending such little money for stuff that someone's driving to my house to drop it off.
joe rogan
Eventually it's just going to be drones.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean...
Just drop it off at your head.
joe rogan
Drop it off at your house.
And then there's people that...
Those are some of the grossest people, people that steal people's packages.
adrienne iapalucci
Especially during the holidays.
joe rogan
You don't even know what's in there.
adrienne iapalucci
But that's the fun you get and you're like, this could be a TV. This could be an iPhone.
It could also just be toothbrushes.
joe rogan
There's so many funny videos of people getting busted.
adrienne iapalucci
I've seen them, yeah.
People are just stealing videos for Christmas.
unidentified
If you live in a neighborhood where someone steals your packages, that's such a shitty feeling.
joe rogan
There's fucking people in your neighborhood that are clocking what's getting dropped off at your house.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
Chris Rock used to have a bit about putting...
If you bought a new TV, you had to be careful putting the box out on the street in the garbage because people would know you have a new TV. They know you have a new TV, yeah.
unidentified
And they want to break in your house and steal your TV. I mean, now TVs are worth nothing.
joe rogan
They're worth nothing.
unidentified
TVs...
joe rogan
I remember in 1994, when I first moved here, I got a big TV for the first time.
It was fucking big.
It was like this big.
adrienne iapalucci
1994 was a great year.
joe rogan
It was like 24 inches.
But it was like...
Yeah, to pick it up.
Like, it was a giant-ass TV. Like, it had a whole back to it.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, it was humongous.
joe rogan
And then it was one of those years, like, 94, 95, they came out with a plasma TV. And it was $20,000.
And it was, like, 40 inches and flat.
And because it was flat, it looked like shit.
It didn't even look good.
Because it was 40 inches and flat, it was like $20,000.
I remember thinking, that is the dumbest thing.
I'm paying $20,000 for this space behind the TV. I don't give a fuck if there's space behind the TV. There's like six feet between the TV and the wall.
What do I give a fuck?
There's an extra 12 inches of TV behind it?
What are you, stupid?
You're gonna pay $20,000 because it's flat?
adrienne iapalucci
I guess people want to hang it on the wall.
joe rogan
It was a thing to let people know you had it.
adrienne iapalucci
You had money.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You had a plasma TV. Right.
So you can find a plasma TV from 1995-ish.
They looked like shit.
I think it must have been 96 because that was when I first bought a house.
They looked like shit.
And they were $20,000.
I was like, this is crazy.
adrienne iapalucci
They were so heavy, those big TVs.
joe rogan
Oh, giant.
Might not have been 20 grand.
I might be exaggerating, but it had to be like eight or nine.
And this was like, again, 95-ish.
How much did they cost back then?
adrienne iapalucci
I remember that TV right there, the silver one, where it comes with its own stand, kind of.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that one.
adrienne iapalucci
That's where you go over to the person's house.
That person has the Super Bowl party.
joe rogan
Yeah, you had to have friends help you carry that in.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it was Fujitsu in 95. Fujitsu introduced the first 42-inch and it was how much money?
Price.
No, I had it right there.
Right there.
Sample price for the 42-inch was 1 million yen, but Fujitsu aimed to sell it for about 500,000 yen per unit.
What is that in dollars?
What's 1 million yen in dollars?
adrienne iapalucci
It's like 15,000.
joe rogan
6,000.
So 6,500 bucks.
adrienne iapalucci
That's still a lot of money.
joe rogan
Still a lot of money.
So it wasn't 20 grand, I exaggerate.
adrienne iapalucci
That's a lot of money still.
joe rogan
But it was just, the regular TV was like 100. How much is a regular TV? It wasn't that much money.
But if you had that, you were the man.
Like, oh, Bobby must be doing really well in Hollywood.
unidentified
Look at this.
joe rogan
Look at that TV. He has a flat screen television.
Oh, 10 grand.
By the year 2000, prices had dropped to 10 grand.
Oh, prices had dropped to 10 grand.
adrienne iapalucci
So maybe it was 20,000.
joe rogan
So what did they start at?
Interesting.
See if it says up there.
unidentified
Oh, $15,000.
joe rogan
Okay, one of the first plasma TVs.
I think it was a Philips that I saw.
It was available at four Sears locations in the U.S. for $15,000.
adrienne iapalucci
Is there Sears anymore?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I haven't seen a Sears forever.
adrienne iapalucci
I remember when I was a kid, I got a Sears credit card and I just bought my ex-boyfriend at the time rims for his car.
That's what you just spend your money on.
joe rogan
I don't even...
Sears is almost like the Bernstein Bears effect.
The fact that you said Sears, I was like, oh, that's a thing?
adrienne iapalucci
I forgot about Sears.
I don't think it is anymore.
joe rogan
But how could that not be a thing?
Sears was huge!
jamie vernon
They still have a website.
adrienne iapalucci
Really?
There's no locations though?
jamie vernon
I mean, it's giving me a store locator, but it's not showing me a match.
joe rogan
But that's a weird one.
Like, Sears.
Like, that had left my memory.
Until this, and then you saying it.
Like, even though I said Sears, available at Sears.
adrienne iapalucci
It didn't hit your head.
joe rogan
Then you started going, Sears.
Oh, I remember Sears.
And then I was like, I remember Sears, too.
adrienne iapalucci
Do you remember when Nobody Beats the Wiz?
Do you remember that store?
joe rogan
Yes.
Do you remember Crazy Eddie's?
adrienne iapalucci
Yes.
joe rogan
Crazy Eddie was actually crazy.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
Turns out.
jamie vernon
There's nine left.
joe rogan
Oh, wow!
jamie vernon
One in Puerto Rico, eight in mainland.
joe rogan
Interesting.
We should take a road trip just to go to a Sears.
adrienne iapalucci
We should go to the one in Puerto Rico.
joe rogan
We should bring Tony.
adrienne iapalucci
Let's bring Tony!
That'd be amazing.
First of all, Puerto Ricans were not upset by that.
I mean, I'm sure some were, but my friends were like, I'm still voting for Trump.
joe rogan
Puerto Ricans can take a joke.
They are some of the best shit talkers on earth.
adrienne iapalucci
Absolutely.
joe rogan
It's common in Puerto Rican communities to just have fun and joke.
adrienne iapalucci
Absolutely.
joe rogan
It's not a super sensitive neighborhood.
It's a super sensitive ethnic group.
adrienne iapalucci
No, but most people didn't care.
They're like, I don't care.
joe rogan
It was a stupid ding to do it there, but it turned him into a legend.
As long as Trump won.
If Trump didn't win, we were going to have to hide him.
adrienne iapalucci
For real?
joe rogan
Yeah, I was going to hide him.
I was going to move him to Thailand or something.
adrienne iapalucci
To Thailand?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got to get out of the United States for a while.
adrienne iapalucci
For how long, though?
joe rogan
A while, depending on how bad sideways things go.
If Kamala Harris becomes president, the deep state takeover and they completely censor all social media, remove everybody's guns, force vaccinations on all your babies.
Everybody gets a sex change.
Who knows?
adrienne iapalucci
And he's just in Thailand.
joe rogan
And he's in Thailand.
adrienne iapalucci
With ladyboys.
joe rogan
Just drinking his life away because he can't believe he fucked it up for one shitty laugh.
adrienne iapalucci
He could go live in Puerto Rico.
joe rogan
You know, there were stories that were ready to be published if Trump lost, blaming it on Tony.
adrienne iapalucci
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Blaming it on that one joke in Madison Square Garden.
Where the facts is, and Tony will tell you, actually Puerto Ricans voted 26% more for Trump, which is true.
adrienne iapalucci
They probably did.
joe rogan
Than ever before.
Yeah.
Well, people were fucking fed up.
People were fed up.
adrienne iapalucci
I didn't even vote.
joe rogan
None of this makes any sense.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, I think honestly, most people right now, their main concern is like they can't even afford groceries.
joe rogan
Exactly.
adrienne iapalucci
So they're like, whoever I think is going to help me with that.
Listen, I don't know what is true or not true, but like people who are like, I can't afford to feed my kids.
joe rogan
It is so crazy.
I was watching this guy on MSNBC and he was dismissing that in terms of like, when people think a certain way, like people have like a particular, if they're a leftist or if they're a fundamentalist Christian, it's They have one thing in common and that thing they have in common is they want everyone to think like them.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
And this guy was saying that about like young people listening to podcasts and they're getting air quotes radicalized and that we need something that can do this from a feminist perspective and teach young men feminism.
The whole thing was so strange but one of the things he said that was the most strange Instead of these minor grievances like the price of eggs or someone is teaching your kids something in history that you don't agree with.
What's major then, man?
Food for kids.
adrienne iapalucci
Food for your family.
History is just history.
joe rogan
And history, well, he said something you don't agree with.
I don't know what that means.
But education is primary.
It's one of the most important things for kids.
You've got to...
View of the world, they have to be correctly informed.
It really helps if you have a good education.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
And then, if you have food, if you can afford eggs, that really fucking helps.
And so this idea that these are minor issues, and the important issue is connecting men to feminism.
adrienne iapalucci
Listen, you can do that if you want, but most people right now are like, I can't afford to pay for groceries for my kids.
I don't even have kids, but people are like, I can't afford to buy groceries.
joe rogan
Of course.
adrienne iapalucci
People who are making more money now are like, I can't save any money.
joe rogan
Yes.
Everything's more expensive.
People are fucking out of touch.
I'm clearly out of touch.
Clearly.
But I remember when I was poor.
I understand it.
I really do.
And I know what the fuck is going on.
And I know people are saying, hey, this isn't a minor deal.
This is like one of the biggest deals.
You guys fucked up the economy, and you're gaslighting everybody and telling everybody you didn't.
You guys have spent billions of dollars on a war that nobody agrees with, hundreds of billions, and you're gaslighting us.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, I just also like these teachers that are just like spending all their own money for supplies.
It's like, what are you doing?
joe rogan
Crazy.
adrienne iapalucci
Why do teachers not have supplies for kids?
unidentified
And you're right.
adrienne iapalucci
They are the future generation.
So if they don't have food and they don't have, they're not like being instructed and, you know, learning stuff and you have these schools where there's so many kids to one teacher.
joe rogan
The United States is like someone who owes you money and they say they don't have it and they keep buying cars.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That's what it's like.
adrienne iapalucci
Kind of.
joe rogan
It's like, how did you have the money to spend all this money on another country when you didn't have any money to spend on the education of kids?
adrienne iapalucci
I mean homelessness, the veterans.
joe rogan
Let's just pick education.
How much could they fix education with $175 billion?
adrienne iapalucci
You shouldn't have a teacher that needs to buy supplies.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Imagine this.
Imagine if companies...
We're incentivized.
Like, what if they got government grants based on how well the kids performed in the school districts?
adrienne iapalucci
That would be great.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, literally make it like Halliburton for schools.
Like, you know, Halliburton, they blew up Iraq.
Halliburton comes in and cleans everything up.
Have something that profits off these places getting better.
And the better they do in terms of dropping in crime, education rates, graduation rates, college rates, everybody gets more money.
Figure that out.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, they just want more money for prisons.
joe rogan
They do that too.
adrienne iapalucci
That's true.
Because if you don't spend it on education, then you could just have these people have to turn to crime and put them in prisons and that's how you'll get money.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of things they did in the 80s that still fuck with us today and that's one of them.
That's a big one.
Then the 80s must have been so wild.
Because there's no computers, and it's just like TV and the newspaper, and everyone's running wild, and Reagan's the president.
So nobody thinks anything's real.
unidentified
It's crazy.
joe rogan
You got a fucking movie star as the president.
JFK's dead.
Nobody still understands that one.
adrienne iapalucci
Wasn't Reagan's, was Reagan's wife the one that was called the throat goat?
joe rogan
Allegedly.
Yes.
adrienne iapalucci
Give her her flowers.
I think she is the third one.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, you could bestow that upon someone to besmirk their memory.
You could do that.
It's hard to say.
adrienne iapalucci
Is that necessarily a bad thing?
joe rogan
But also the kind of gal that can capture up a president probably knows how to get things done.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
That's not necessarily a bad thing.
Good for her.
joe rogan
I think it's a good thing.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, every guy would agree.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a good skill for a lady to have.
Then there's a problem.
How'd you learn that?
Unless you're a savant.
First dick you suck, you're just like, wow.
adrienne iapalucci
Somebody had to just figure that out.
joe rogan
There probably was glasses back in the Roman days.
adrienne iapalucci
You think so?
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
Probably guys showing each other how to suck each other off.
Everybody was blowing everybody back then.
adrienne iapalucci
They're just, you know, throwing bodies on fire and then also there's throat goat classes.
joe rogan
Imagine what their balls smelled like back then.
adrienne iapalucci
Disgusting.
I can't even imagine that.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
adrienne iapalucci
You'd probably put shit on their balls so you couldn't smell what their actual balls smelled like.
unidentified
You're like, I'd rather smell straight shit than listen to that.
adrienne iapalucci
So gross.
That has to be the worst smell.
joe rogan
Do you ever see how they wipe their asses?
adrienne iapalucci
Where?
In the Roman times?
joe rogan
Yeah, they would take a sponge that was on a stick.
It was a communal sponge.
adrienne iapalucci
A communal sponge.
Why did I just see this on like Instagram or something?
Yeah, it's like just...
I think I'm all set.
joe rogan
I went to Pompeii and I took my family there a few years ago.
It's really interesting because these people died like instantaneously and then they've sort of uncovered a lot of it and one of the things that they uncovered was like this communal like shithouse.
So it's just like these holes around this, like a horseshoe pattern.
Yeah, like that.
So these holes, these dudes just sit there and just shat into the ground.
adrienne iapalucci
So it's like kind of a toilet kind of idea?
joe rogan
Kind of, but I mean, I don't think there's any water.
And there's the sponge.
That's the sponge.
Look at the word.
They had a name for it.
Xylospongium.
adrienne iapalucci
How often did they change the sponge?
joe rogan
They couldn't change it enough.
adrienne iapalucci
It's not enough, but like a month?
joe rogan
You're dunking into that fucking...
Okay, hold on a second.
Academics disagree to its exact use, about which the primary sources are vague.
It has traditionally been assumed that a type of shared anal hygiene utensil used to wipe after defecating and the sponge is cleaned in vinegar or water, sometimes salt water.
Other recent research suggests it was most likely a toilet brush.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, I mean, they're probably cleaning a toilet and also your asshole.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe it was all those things.
Middle of the first century Roman philosopher Seneca the Younger reported that a Germanic gladiator died by suicide with a sponge on a stick.
According to Seneca, the gladiator hid himself in the latrine of an amphitheater and pushed the wooden stick deep into his throat.
unidentified
Yo!
adrienne iapalucci
Did he take that sponge off first?
joe rogan
No, he wanted to die that way.
He wanted to suffocate himself.
That's how much he didn't want to fight in the gladiator wars.
jamie vernon
I see also shitstick.
joe rogan
It means a thin steak or stick used instead of toilet paper for anal hygiene and was a historical item of material culture introduced through Chinese Buddhism and Japanese Buddhism.
A well-known example is...
I'm not even going to try to say that word.
Where'd it go?
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
One example, a dry shitstick from the Chen Zen, I'm not going to say that word, in which a monk asked, what is Buddha?
And Master Yunmin Unmon answered, a dry shitstick.
Buddha is a dry shitstick.
Because everybody got a shitstick that had everybody else's shit already on it, and you just smear an extra shit on your butt.
adrienne iapalucci
It's like, I'll just have my own shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're dunking it in the water, but how clean does it really get?
And then it's just soaked in shit water, and you're taking that, and you're wiping your own asshole with it.
adrienne iapalucci
I am glad that I was not born during that time.
joe rogan
What do you think people in the future are going to be saying about this time, though?
What are they going to be most shocked that we did that was so stupid?
adrienne iapalucci
I don't know.
joe rogan
Because if we're looking back at Pompeii, what was Pompeii?
What year did that go down?
67 AD? It's pretty wild when you're there.
It's weird.
Because you get to see some of the bodies they've preserved that are just completely frozen in place.
Like the ash overwhelmed them.
And they're just like almost like a little stone statue.
79 AD. Can you show me some of the photos of the Pompeii victims?
So there's like people that are like just piled on top of each other.
Like that's it.
Like right there.
They just were overwhelmed by ash.
Just volcanic ash.
The volcano, the heat and the gases just killed everybody like almost instantly.
Just completely overran the town.
It's pretty insane.
adrienne iapalucci
That is insane.
joe rogan
Because it's just weird that people don't know that.
Like when they're building these cities, they don't know that that can happen.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, I wouldn't know that that can happen.
joe rogan
No, no one knew back then.
But I mean, we know now.
Look, look at that.
That's so crazy.
That's what it looks like.
I mean, that's a human being that was just literally turned into a statue in place.
There was one where these two guys were embracing.
And someone tried to say that it was perhaps they were lovers.
And someone on Twitter was a very funny comment.
They're like, Jesus Christ, imagine dying in front of your friend.
Then everybody finds it like, oh, I knew he was gay.
adrienne iapalucci
Imagine like jerking off.
joe rogan
Right, you die in the middle of it.
You have your hand on your balls.
adrienne iapalucci
And you're just fucking now frozen in time like that.
joe rogan
Forever.
At least nobody knows who you are.
adrienne iapalucci
That's true.
joe rogan
Yeah, those are the guys.
adrienne iapalucci
I don't know.
Those people, yeah.
That's on the way down.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Fucked up way to go.
adrienne iapalucci
Instantaneously.
Somebody's like, that's Bob and Tom.
joe rogan
And when I was a kid, Mount St. Helens blew up.
What year was that, Jamie?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Mount St. Helens was in the Pacific Northwest, and it was a big deal.
Because it was an actual, real volcano that killed people in the United States.
And we were like, whoa.
Like, what?
I thought volcanoes were like in other countries.
1980. So I was not even in high school.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was a crazy one.
How many people died from Mountain Elves?
57. Yeah, they knew it was an active volcano, but they didn't think...
adrienne iapalucci
And they still went?
joe rogan
Wow, it's like people live on the side of active volcanoes.
Like, in Hawaii, there's a bunch of people that live on the side of an active volcano.
adrienne iapalucci
When I was in Hawaii, I think there was one of the volcanoes did go off.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It happened when I was there, too.
At the Big Island.
The Big Island is very active.
There's crazy film of lava overcoming this Mustang.
Have you ever seen it?
adrienne iapalucci
No.
joe rogan
There's a Mustang parked in front of the street and the lava is coming from this eruption and it just slowly consumes the street and eats this car right in front of this dude's house.
Like these people have been living there, chilling their whole life, coming home from school.
Hi mom, I'm home.
adrienne iapalucci
Does your insurance cover that?
joe rogan
Probably not.
They try to cover as little as possible.
adrienne iapalucci
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
If you live on the side of an active volcano, like...
adrienne iapalucci
It's like, hey, I'm going to get volcano insurance.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's up to you, player.
adrienne iapalucci
But I want to have my expensive car.
joe rogan
Yeah, I had a friend who...
He had some crazy situation.
I think he had, like...
Flood insurance, but he didn't have damage from water from a hurricane insurance.
So like your roof can get destroyed from a hurricane, and you don't have insurance for that, but you have insurance if like your pipes break.
Like he got fucked in some sort of a weird loophole.
adrienne iapalucci
What's weird too with stuff like that, anytime it's like an adjuster, if you get the right adjuster, they can do whatever you want.
But you have to get an adjuster who's going to do it.
Like I used to call and do like appeals for health insurance stuff.
And if you kind of sweet talk someone, they might just put it through for you.
You have to just keep calling back until you get an adjuster that's going to give you what you want.
joe rogan
Or you have to charm them in person.
adrienne iapalucci
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
Because they're just regular people.
joe rogan
Right.
And they can decide.
adrienne iapalucci
Absolutely.
They hold so much power sometimes.
joe rogan
That's a crazy power to have.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
Tell a person you can get your house fixed.
unidentified
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
Or like your car's totaled and we're going to pay for it or we're not.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Or you're going to have a shaky ass car for the rest of your life as you take it on the highway.
You ever had a car that's fixed that really probably shouldn't have been fixed?
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, my first car I had was a Ford Tempo, and I remember the steering wheel came off in my lap as I was driving it, and I just picked it up and just kept driving.
joe rogan
You put it back on?
adrienne iapalucci
Oh, I should not have been driving that car.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
When you're a kid and you buy shitboxes, the chances of those things just completely falling apart as you're driving are so high.
adrienne iapalucci
My dad also would just like want to paint a car.
So he would just like start painting a car and prime it, like half of it, and then he would give up.
So we'd have like a two-colored car as a child.
It's like so embarrassing.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you have a poor car, that's not good.
adrienne iapalucci
Oh yeah, we had poor cars all the time.
And then my mom got into a car accident and then we got a car with that money.
The Ford Tempo was like five grand.
It had like bright red pleather inside.
joe rogan
Bright red pleather.
adrienne iapalucci
I remember, yeah, I was driving with that car, me and my friends on the highway, and I'm like, oh, the steering wheel just came down, but it's still connected.
So I just pick it up and like make the turn.
joe rogan
Oh, so like the thing that adjusts the steering wheel dropped off?
adrienne iapalucci
I don't know.
It just like fell in my lap when I was driving.
And I just picked it up and like still drove it.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
There's a lot of those cars out there.
That's why we need inspections, Adrian.
It's very important.
adrienne iapalucci
My dad, though, knew a guy who would just keep passing that car.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those guys are a problem.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
But that's what I'm saying.
It's a person that's not an adjuster, but if you know them, they'll do it for you.
joe rogan
Yeah, my friend was telling me about that for muscle cars in Los Angeles, that there's a place you can go in the hood, and this guy will completely pass any car.
I was like, that sounds like an FBI sting.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, but I mean, there's so many things like that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, especially in New York.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
joe rogan
New York is all about knowing a guy.
adrienne iapalucci
All about knowing a guy.
It's all about, like, what you can get away with.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
New York City is disgusting.
And I've lived there my whole life.
I hate it, but I can't imagine, like, living anywhere permanently for the rest of my life.
joe rogan
What do you think is going to be the hardest adjustment about moving here?
adrienne iapalucci
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
I mean, I can't live here during the summer.
I can't do it like flying roaches.
Whatever those things are, I just can't.
I'm out.
joe rogan
Jamie, do you experience a lot of flying roaches?
adrienne iapalucci
I just see them out.
It was like 105 degrees here when I came last June with Ari, and it was just like, we were in his house.
He got a really nice Airbnb.
joe rogan
He probably brought them with him.
jamie vernon
There were a lot of crickets this year, but I don't think that's different.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, I was in the room in the bathroom, and there was one like this big.
joe rogan
A roach.
adrienne iapalucci
Maybe they're cicadas, whatever they're called.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Cicadas are very different than roaches.
adrienne iapalucci
They look like roaches, though.
joe rogan
People eat them.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure, people eat people.
It doesn't make it cool or ripe, but you can eat whatever you want.
joe rogan
No, but I mean, it's like a delicacy.
People enjoy it.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
No, I know a guy who does it.
adrienne iapalucci
God bless.
That's not for me.
joe rogan
My friend Ryan Callahan, he had a recipe on how to cook cicadas.
adrienne iapalucci
Don't they look like big roaches, though?
joe rogan
Yeah, like a bug.
adrienne iapalucci
Anyway, I go to get Ori to kill it, and he's like, oh, it just flew.
I'm like, what?
That is like a new fear unlocked.
It flew?
joe rogan
It probably was a cicada.
It probably wasn't a roach.
adrienne iapalucci
Maybe.
It might not have been a roach, but like...
joe rogan
That's what a cicada looks like.
adrienne iapalucci
I can't.
joe rogan
Fucking cool.
They're fucking cool.
See if you find cicada recipes.
See if you can find Ryan Callahan's cicada recipe.
My friend Ryan, he would cook them with like teriyaki sauce and bake them.
Yeah, apparently, look, I've gone to Mexico before, and at certain resorts in Mexico, they'll serve you like fried crickets.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
Have you seen that?
adrienne iapalucci
I've heard about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, fried crickets are grasshoppers.
I forget which one.
But they're good.
They taste good.
adrienne iapalucci
They're probably crunchy.
joe rogan
Yeah, crunchy, and it was kind of salty.
It's pretty good.
It's actually not bad for you, like legitimately.
adrienne iapalucci
It's protein, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's the same kind of animal protein that you get from a lot of different things.
But protein from cicadas is apparently particularly good.
Because they're big, I guess.
Probably a lot of protein in those little fuckers.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, I just remember being outside in a bar here, and they were just...
joe rogan
That's all it is for you, is the bugs?
adrienne iapalucci
The heat's not great?
joe rogan
You can handle the heat?
adrienne iapalucci
I can handle the heat over those bugs.
joe rogan
Just stay away from the bugs.
I don't run into them.
adrienne iapalucci
Why can't they fly?
joe rogan
Adrian, I'm telling you, you're hanging out in the wrong spots.
adrienne iapalucci
I'll show you where to go with the bugs.
Sure, maybe I'm in the poor places, but the bugs are just, I can't deal with the flying.
joe rogan
Just don't care where the bugs are.
It's not that big of a deal.
Mosquitoes are a pain in the ass sometimes.
adrienne iapalucci
I don't care about that.
I mean, yeah, it's not great, but those big things I can't.
joe rogan
Like Lady Bird Lake, if you go around there, there's going to be a lot of mosquitoes.
They're all over the fucking place.
But that's also what the bats keep in check.
Have you seen the bat emergence before?
adrienne iapalucci
No.
joe rogan
Oh, it's fucking cool as shit.
adrienne iapalucci
Bats are actually pretty cute.
joe rogan
Well, there's the bridge, right?
There's a South Congress bridge.
And if you go by the South Congress bridge, there's people every night that are waiting for the bats to leave.
Because millions of bats leave.
So as billions of critters have emerged for seven years...
So is this Ryan?
jamie vernon
I think so.
joe rogan
Okay, so you're showing...
So you peel off the skin of these little fuckers.
adrienne iapalucci
What is this guy doing?
joe rogan
That's not Ryan Callahan.
I don't know who that guy is.
jamie vernon
I could find a video of him doing it then.
joe rogan
Okay.
But so this guy's just showing how you cook cicadas.
So he's basically taking away the outside area.
And he made a cicada taco for this kid and this lady.
And they're eating it with a...
She's freaking out.
Whatever.
She said it's not bad.
What was I just talking about before that, though?
We're moving on to something else.
adrienne iapalucci
Oh, what I'll miss about being here as opposed to New York?
joe rogan
Yeah, we talked about, oh, the bats.
That's what we were talking about.
adrienne iapalucci
The bats eating the mosquitoes.
joe rogan
Yeah, show the bats emerging from the South Congress Bridge.
It's really crazy.
I've seen, I've only done it once, where I went out there and watched it happen.
unidentified
I would like to see it.
joe rogan
It's like a million bats.
It's like the sky fills with bats, and they kill all the fucking mosquitoes.
They're deathly mosquitoes.
adrienne iapalucci
Why are they not eating the mosquitoes also?
unidentified
Look at them.
adrienne iapalucci
That's pretty cool, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
I've never seen the photos of it.
joe rogan
It's pretty badass.
I've seen it live like that.
And if you go under that bridge, you hear them.
Little flying rats clinging to the roof.
unidentified
What else do they eat?
adrienne iapalucci
They can't eat just mosquitoes.
joe rogan
Mosquitoes.
unidentified
That's it?
joe rogan
They're mosquito killers.
They keep the mosquitoes in check.
They probably eat a bunch of bugs.
I'm sure they don't only dine on mosquitoes, but they're a significant factor in keeping the mosquito population down, allegedly.
That's what I read.
It's fine if that's true.
I think it's true, though.
I think it's true.
I think that's one of the main things that they help with.
adrienne iapalucci
My friend, he lives in, I guess, the country, and he's trying to put up those places where bats will come to eat the mosquitoes.
I guess you put up those little bat houses or whatever.
You put pheromones in them, I guess, and he's like, he can't get them to come there because he has a lot of mosquitoes because he lives by a lake.
joe rogan
Yeah, I bet bats, it's hard to get them to move into new areas, you know?
Because I bet wherever bats live, if they live by a lake, there's probably plenty of bugs.
Like, why would they take a risk to go somewhere where they're not sure if resources exist?
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, they could just fly.
joe rogan
Right, but they live under this bridge and they've been on this bridge forever.
adrienne iapalucci
Well, yeah, I don't think he's going to get these bats.
joe rogan
But you know what I'm saying?
Like, when bats find a spot that works, they're not migratory.
adrienne iapalucci
Right, they're just going to stay there.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're just going to stay there.
So to get them to go to a new spot, he's probably going to have to bring bats.
We actually had a bat expert on the podcast.
adrienne iapalucci
Do you know what I need?
I need an expert for pantry moths.
joe rogan
We'll try to find you one.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, I have pantry moths for the last three months, and I can't get rid of them.
jamie vernon
They do migrate.
joe rogan
Where'd they go?
They migrate seasonally, flying south for the winter, and they're returning north in the spring.
Interesting.
jamie vernon
Yeah, that's how I heard about it.
There's a bunch more in Houston.
joe rogan
Right, so they probably, because Houston doesn't get as cold probably, but they probably have like an established range is what my point is.
It's like bringing them to a new range, like to your friend's place, is going to be difficult because there's not a history of them being there.
But I wonder if, what was that dude's name?
What does it say?
It says they eat between 10,000 and 30,000 pounds of insects, including mosquitoes, every night, on their nightly flights, and harmful agricultural pests.
So Austin's bats, they're fucking huge.
They come in handy.
But, fuck, what was I asking about other than that?
jamie vernon
Merlin Tuttle.
joe rogan
Yes, that's his name.
Merlin Tuttle.
So he is a bat expert.
And he lives in Austin as well.
Fascinating dude.
He's been studying bats his whole life.
He's a scientist.
adrienne iapalucci
Is there still new stuff to find out about bats?
joe rogan
Sure.
Yeah.
I mean, bats carry a lot of weird diseases.
That's one thing.
That makes sense.
Because they're eating mosquitoes.
There's crossover diseases.
The coronavirus essentially was a bat disease that they took and fucked with and made it vulnerable for humans.
So they've done a lot of work with like bats and diseases.
One of the craziest stories though, there's these two doctors, or two scientists rather, and they were in Africa and they decided to set up Photography to film these bats as they were flying out of the cave because there's a certain cave in Africa that has like some fucking insane number of bats.
It's just filled with them.
And when these bats flew out, they shit.
So these guys are on the ground in front of the bat cave filming and they didn't take into account they're going to be covered.
In batshit.
Just millions and millions of bats shitting in their face.
And they died.
They died of some crazy hemorrhagic virus that just raged through their system.
If you imagine...
You are a human being, and you're essentially intravenously taking in bat shit into your system.
It's going in your eyeballs.
It's going in your mouth.
adrienne iapalucci
What a crazy turn of events.
joe rogan
It's going through the blood-brain barrier.
The bat shit's getting into your blood, and it's circulating through your whole body.
And you just develop a horrible hemorrhagic virus.
adrienne iapalucci
So you can't play in that shit like you can play in cow shit?
joe rogan
No, I don't think so.
I think, well, bats eat a lot of, like, living organisms, unlike cows, you know?
jamie vernon
He's turning these crocodiles orange.
joe rogan
Bat poop has turned these African cave crocodiles orange.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, that orange crocodile looks pretty cool.
unidentified
That's a pretty dope-looking crocodile.
adrienne iapalucci
I'd like a pair of boots.
joe rogan
Yeah, no shit, right?
Like, natural?
adrienne iapalucci
Nice.
joe rogan
Natural orange crocodile from bat poop?
You know, bat guano is a very potent fertilizer, right?
Because bat guano has like, I think it has high levels of nitrogen.
I think that comes from them eating all the insects.
So that like, there used to be wars over bat shit.
And that's where the term bat shit crazy comes from.
Guano was a very expensive commodity because people needed it to grow crops.
That's crazy.
Bat guano is apparently a very potent fertilizer.
jamie vernon
They have a 4,300-year-old poop core in a Jamaican cave that they've been studying.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
5,000 different species of bats have been shitting on for...
joe rogan
Jesus Christ!
Oh my God!
Depositive into...
unidentified
Wow!
joe rogan
Sequential layers by generations of bats for over 4,300 years and it's two meters tall.
That is so crazy.
Largely undisturbed and holds information about changes in climate and how the bat's food source has shifted over the millennia.
Wow!
adrienne iapalucci
Imagine going to Jamaica for spring break and that's where you go.
joe rogan
That is so crazy.
That's so nuts.
jamie vernon
I'm trying to find a picture of it, but I didn't see it.
joe rogan
You know what I'm really fascinated with is things that existed like only in myth but that every culture has.
Like dragons.
Like I had this guy Forrest Gallant.
He's a wildlife biologist and he thinks that there's a real possibility that dragons were an actual thing.
adrienne iapalucci
Like when dinosaurs were around?
joe rogan
No, no.
They lived alongside humans.
That's why there's all these records and all these different cultures.
And, you know, there's Chinese culture has dragons.
Japanese culture has dragons.
Ancient Europeans have dragons.
Like, dragon is not fire-breathing.
That seems to be bullshit.
But maybe even...
adrienne iapalucci
What kind of...
Like, what would their purpose be?
joe rogan
Well, they're probably like a crocodile that flies.
There was probably, like, more than one kind of really dangerous reptile that they called dragons.
Like Komodo dragons.
adrienne iapalucci
Right, Komodo dragons.
joe rogan
Giant lizard, they called a dragon, right?
Crocodiles, dragons.
The question is whether or not one of them actually flew.
Because we know that pterodactyls were a real thing.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, they probably were real then.
joe rogan
Nah.
I think it's probably something like that.
You know, some kind of, like, enormous bird-type creature.
adrienne iapalucci
I only want a dragon if it's going to just have fire come out of its mouth.
joe rogan
All the time.
adrienne iapalucci
That's the only kind of dragon I want.
joe rogan
Stick it on your enemies.
adrienne iapalucci
Yes.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
adrienne iapalucci
Send it to your house.
joe rogan
Like when you're in Game of Thrones and that lady's standing there and then you see the dragon's head slowly emerge behind her.
adrienne iapalucci
I never watch Game of Thrones.
I know.
joe rogan
How dare you.
adrienne iapalucci
I know.
joe rogan
It's so good.
adrienne iapalucci
I keep trying to get into it, and I can't.
joe rogan
The new one is, eh.
adrienne iapalucci
No, but I mean the old one.
joe rogan
The old one is so good.
It's so good.
It's so good.
It makes you want a dragon.
The lady who, was her name, Vanaris, who had the dragons?
Is that her name?
adrienne iapalucci
I have no idea.
You didn't watch it either?
Could you not get into it?
joe rogan
She's too busy playing video games and golf.
adrienne iapalucci
Bring me your puppy.
joe rogan
What do you mean, a reality?
adrienne iapalucci
Bring me your puppy right now.
Bring me Carl.
joe rogan
Jamie's like, I don't like fantasy.
jamie vernon
Not that kind.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, I don't really like fantasy like that either.
unidentified
What kind of fantasy do you like?
jamie vernon
I don't know, sci-fi stuff a little more.
joe rogan
Have you seen Three Body Problem?
jamie vernon
No, it was on my list to watch it and start it.
Dude.
adrienne iapalucci
Is it good?
joe rogan
It's really good.
By the guys who made Games of Thrones.
Or the gals or non-binary folks.
Whoever the fuck it is.
adrienne iapalucci
Whoever made it.
joe rogan
Whoever made Game of Thrones.
That's a thing that you repeat without looking any further.
I don't know what producers or whatever, but the point is, it is a really, really good show.
Like, really fun.
And science fiction.
And my wife was not even into science fiction.
She loves it.
adrienne iapalucci
I gotta check it out.
Yeah, it's good.
I really want Carl.
joe rogan
A little Carl.
Isn't he adorable?
adrienne iapalucci
He's so cute.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's gotta rest up for Marshall.
In about 15-20 minutes, he's gonna meet Marshall again.
adrienne iapalucci
It's chaos once again.
Marshall's just happy right now.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, he's happy when Carl's nowhere near him.
adrienne iapalucci
He's like, Carl, please, I can't.
joe rogan
Especially if he doesn't have a toy where they could play tug-of-war.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
If they can play Tiger War, it's cool, but Carl is just a psycho.
adrienne iapalucci
Oh yeah, as soon as I came in, he was just like biting my sneaker.
joe rogan
Yeah, he just wants to fight.
He wants to play.
adrienne iapalucci
He's still so young though.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a little baby.
But he's also a crazy dog.
adrienne iapalucci
He's nuts.
joe rogan
He's like a little torpedo.
He launches himself through the air at Marshall.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
Like if he was a person, he'd be a dictator.
He's like nuts.
joe rogan
He'd be a gladiator.
He'd be one of those dudes fighting in Rome.
adrienne iapalucci
He's like just jacked.
joe rogan
Yeah, he'd be one of them dudes fighting.
He'd be like that.
He wouldn't be the guy that killed himself with the shit sponge.
adrienne iapalucci
No.
unidentified
No way.
adrienne iapalucci
He'd be killing people with the shit sponge.
unidentified
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
Just plunging it right in their throat.
joe rogan
But you imagine if, like, today was the lion fight.
You're like, I don't want to do this.
I'd rather choke to death on a shit stick.
Imagine how bad your life has to be.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, I think you were like, I'm just going to off myself with this shit stick.
joe rogan
Imagine, like, that's all you have to kill yourself is a shit stick.
I mean, how bad your life has to suck to take this fucking sponge covered in other people's shit and just bypass your gag instincts and stuff it down your hole until you die?
adrienne iapalucci
Man, you don't die right away either.
joe rogan
You definitely don't die right away.
adrienne iapalucci
You're just like ingesting those fumes.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're throwing up in the middle of killing yourself by stuffing it in your neck.
jamie vernon
I think someone thought that would kill them and they just tried smelling it until they died and it didn't work.
joe rogan
Nah, they're probably used to that kind of smell.
adrienne iapalucci
It's like smelling salt.
I bet that shit wakes you right up.
joe rogan
You want some?
adrienne iapalucci
No.
I used to work at a place that...
I'll do it, but I'm not going to do it that close.
unidentified
Oh!
adrienne iapalucci
That's what people do with the shit stick.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
That was the biggest one I ever got.
Ever.
Oh my god.
I thought it lost a little bit of potency from the other day.
Yo!
jamie vernon
It's like a delayed reaction.
unidentified
Yo!
joe rogan
That one hit me harder than anyone I've ever been hit.
adrienne iapalucci
I thought it wasn't even that close to me.
It's like chlorine, but the most chlorine.
So I worked at a place that did abortions.
It was like an OBGYN, and they used to have that stuff to wake people up.
joe rogan
Oh, fun.
adrienne iapalucci
God, that is so bad.
joe rogan
You guys are addicted, though.
You want to try it again, don't you?
adrienne iapalucci
No, I don't.
joe rogan
You sure?
adrienne iapalucci
I'm not a gambler.
joe rogan
I'll give you a couple minutes.
adrienne iapalucci
I'm not a gambler.
joe rogan
It doesn't matter.
adrienne iapalucci
I'll do it from further away.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
unidentified
Let's do it again.
adrienne iapalucci
Let's do it again.
joe rogan
It's one of those things where everybody does it and they're like, what the fuck?
adrienne iapalucci
That was so bad.
joe rogan
Let me try it again.
Let me try it again.
Everybody wants to try it again.
adrienne iapalucci
That's brutal.
unidentified
Yeah, it's rough.
joe rogan
It's rough stuff.
adrienne iapalucci
What do they use that for besides?
joe rogan
Weight lifters.
adrienne iapalucci
Oh, if they get knocked out.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
They take it right before they power lift.
Why?
Apparently.
I don't know the actual science.
Maybe Jamie can look it up.
The idea, I think, is it shocks your system.
It just jolts everything alive.
And then you're like, fuck it!
Then you can lift more weights.
unidentified
Allegedly.
adrienne iapalucci
That's crazy, because I didn't even have it that close to my face.
joe rogan
They used to use it with boxers, but they made it illegal.
They would put it under a boxer's nose.
adrienne iapalucci
To wake them up, right?
joe rogan
To wake them up, yeah.
If they got rocked and hurt, they would snap them back.
I don't even know if it works.
jamie vernon
Lots of athletes use it.
adrienne iapalucci
What is it though?
joe rogan
Is it legal for them?
jamie vernon
They're using the smaller versions.
joe rogan
Why can't boxers use it then?
jamie vernon
I don't know that they can't.
joe rogan
I don't think they can.
I think smelling salts are illegal in between rounds.
I think it actually was an issue that somebody brought up because...
I think someone was asking why someone, it was one of the fight men in the UFC, excuse me, one of the cut men in the UFC, was holding someone's nose open after they got rocked, like with his finger, but it was just to create more airway.
jamie vernon
It says because they can mask more serious injuries and cause further harm.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
jamie vernon
That's what just unboxing is.
joe rogan
Yeah, that makes sense.
So like if you get rocked and then they give you smelling salts, you might think you're okay, but really you're still fucked up.
unidentified
Right.
jamie vernon
The worst injury from them is what this is backing up.
When I was looking into it is whiplash.
It's not like burning your nose.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
adrienne iapalucci
I was like, from just going like that?
jamie vernon
Yeah, because you can't not react that way.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
jamie vernon
People that are more hurt can get fucked up more.
joe rogan
You need to do some neck exercises, homie.
You get whiplash from that, that's ridiculous.
adrienne iapalucci
You get into a car accident and you want to get more money, so you just do that for whiplash?
joe rogan
Take a couple blasts of that before the cops get there.
adrienne iapalucci
What is that stuff?
It just smells like ammonia, kinda.
joe rogan
I think it is ammonia, yeah.
jamie vernon
Yep, that's all it is.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just ammonia in crystal form.
But this is this company.
This product is called Ah.
This is the strongest one we've ever tried.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, I've smelled it before too, but that is very strong.
unidentified
It's the strongest.
adrienne iapalucci
It was like here and I smelled it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This smelled so bad that it smelled inside the sealed container.
So it had a sealed plastic container in And you could smell it.
I could smell it through the container before it was even open.
Then once I unsealed it and opened the bag, while this was sealed and with like a top to the lid, so there's the top that's like sealed over the bottle and then the lid on top of the top.
adrienne iapalucci
And you still smelled it through that?
joe rogan
Still smelled it through that.
With like the plastic seal, you got to pull the seal back and everything.
Once we opened it up, I could...
It's just...
It's insane.
Whatever the fuck is in...
Whatever it does to your system...
adrienne iapalucci
How do they, like, get it in crystal form?
No.
Okay.
You do first.
unidentified
Okay.
adrienne iapalucci
Why would you go that close?
That's pretty close.
joe rogan
Okay, your turn.
unidentified
Get in there, girl.
joe rogan
Big breath.
Big breath.
No, that was nothing.
adrienne iapalucci
I smelled enough.
joe rogan
That was nothing.
adrienne iapalucci
I don't care.
I'm not going to breathe in it.
I'm going to lie.
I'm going to pretend I'm doing it.
joe rogan
You did it.
adrienne iapalucci
You had the full experience the first time.
That first time was, like, brutal.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Doesn't it wake you up, though?
adrienne iapalucci
It does, for sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, so if somebody had rocked you, if you're in there with some girl who's boxing you up, she's piecing you up.
adrienne iapalucci
And they just smell that.
joe rogan
They get you in the corner.
You're like, whew.
adrienne iapalucci
I can see it making you, like, angry, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I would think it'd probably be good to mask any symptoms of you being hurt.
adrienne iapalucci
They should have had that on the shitstick.
joe rogan
Yeah, imagine just swallowing a bottle of that to kill yourself.
Yeah!
adrienne iapalucci
But that's better.
joe rogan
Probably take a long time.
adrienne iapalucci
You don't think you would die from that right away?
It's ammonia.
joe rogan
I wonder.
Okay.
How much ammonia would you have to consume for it to be lethal, Jamie?
adrienne iapalucci
I feel like a cup.
joe rogan
This is not even a cup.
adrienne iapalucci
Well, that's in crystal form, though.
unidentified
I think it'd be prolonged.
jamie vernon
At least the amount of time, you're probably doing it.
joe rogan
But if you just down this whole thing, it should kill you.
jamie vernon
Swallowed it?
joe rogan
Yeah, the whole thing.
I feel like we shouldn't be giving anybody any ideas.
adrienne iapalucci
Probably not.
People who were eating Tide Pods don't.
joe rogan
They were, right?
adrienne iapalucci
That's a crazy time.
joe rogan
I think China did that to us.
I think they tricked us on the internet.
unidentified
Into taking Tide Pods?
joe rogan
Yeah, they got some fake people to pretend to eat Tide Pods and talk to dumb kids.
adrienne iapalucci
I can remember when they were locking up detergent because kids were eating Tide Pods.
When you're like, I don't know, man.
If you're eating those Tide Pods, you deserve it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
We're always gonna have kids that do stupid shit.
There's no way around that.
adrienne iapalucci
Tide Pods is probably one of the top.
joe rogan
I'm lucky Tide Pods weren't around when I was a kid.
adrienne iapalucci
You would've definitely been eating them?
joe rogan
I know somebody who would've ate them.
There's always that one kid in the neighborhood who'll do anything to get attention.
adrienne iapalucci
They do feel cool though.
They're like soft and...
joe rogan
What is in them?
adrienne iapalucci
Detergent.
jamie vernon
Oh, sorry.
Tide Pods.
joe rogan
What are you saying, Jamie?
jamie vernon
They were saying, this is probably how this got into sports.
They thought it counteracted head trauma.
unidentified
Right, yeah.
jamie vernon
Like 50 years ago.
joe rogan
Wakes you up.
jamie vernon
Not just, but I mean, fully, like, if you were knocked out.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
I know it would wake you up, but, like, they thought it, like, fixed you.
joe rogan
Right.
They thought it brought you back.
Well, they didn't know shit back then.
adrienne iapalucci
I still smell it.
joe rogan
I mean, when do you think they figured out brain damage?
When they start figuring out if you get punched in the head too many times, you lose your ability to communicate.
adrienne iapalucci
I think they probably knew it pretty early and they were like, I'm betting on this game though.
Let them keep it in each other.
joe rogan
Well, they definitely knew about it because boxers were washed up even in the 50s and the 60s.
But I don't think they understood the extent of it until probably like the 60s and the 70s.
People started discussing like being punch drunk, punch drunk boxers.
Like I think boxers knew about it.
But I think like the general public, it wasn't really a big thing.
adrienne iapalucci
What about football people?
Concussions and stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
They get it real bad.
All of them.
All contact athletes.
Your head getting jarred like that.
But I think for us, the big one was Muhammad Ali.
Because Muhammad Ali was such a cultural hero.
And to see Muhammad Ali in the later stages of his life unable to communicate and shaking is very disturbing.
Because as much as they try to tell you that had nothing to do with boxing, come on.
adrienne iapalucci
It definitely did.
joe rogan
Of course it did.
adrienne iapalucci
You jostling your brain around.
joe rogan
But there's also a trauma induced Parkinson's is a real thing.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
And so when you see people that are like Freddie Roach, who's a, he was a boxer and now he's a famous trainer.
He has trauma induced Parkinson's is a shake that he tells you is from his career as a boxer, just something that happens to people.
And so when you see it happen to someone like Muhammad Ali, you're like, fuck.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
Because this guy's like the sign of strength.
joe rogan
Not just a sign of strength, but the way he would talk was so different than any other boxer.
He was so fast.
He was so funny.
Howard Cosell called him truculent once.
He seemed very truculent, champ.
He goes, whatever truculent is, if it's good, I'm that.
adrienne iapalucci
That's a great answer.
joe rogan
He had so many funny things that he said.
He was the first guy that was like talking shit in a funny way and getting the whole world to pay attention.
You know?
He said one of his opponents, I forget who it was, he goes, have you ever dreams he beat me?
You better wake up and apologize.
adrienne iapalucci
It's funny.
joe rogan
He just said some funny, funny things he would say, but also, like, refused to fight in the Vietnam War.
He said, hey man, fuck you.
I'm not going over there.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, good for him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then lost his title, lost his ability to make a living for three years because of it.
Like, the prime three years of his career was taken from him because he refused to fight in the Vietnam War.
So he was...
He was a lot more than just a fighter.
He was like a cultural icon who defined rebelling against a corrupt and evil system.
And then, you know, eventually at the end of his life, he was a victim of the sport that made him famous.
And we watched it.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
And that's the first time we ever watched someone go from, you know, just celebrated for the way he talked to being unable to communicate at all.
jamie vernon
This gives two very different versions of when it was discovered.
joe rogan
Ancient Egypt.
1848, Phineas Gage, a railroad worker, survived a traumatic brain injury when an iron rod shot through his skull and destroyed much of his left frontal lobe.
Gage's personality changed dramatically and his case considered a landmark in the study of brain damage and personality.
jamie vernon
We have pictures of that.
joe rogan
Yo, let's see the pictures.
Oh boy.
Oh boy.
jamie vernon
It says it went right through.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
He didn't apparently feel much pain.
joe rogan
Oh boy.
jamie vernon
Heath was throwing up for every 20 minutes, but he was lucid and remained talking the whole time.
joe rogan
So he just made his hair part over the hole in his head?
jamie vernon
It said he had obliterated his left frontal lobe, but he survived the accident.
A 13-inch railroad rod.
joe rogan
Is that the rod that he has in his hand?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I think so.
joe rogan
Oh, Christy.
adrienne iapalucci
He's kept it?
jamie vernon
That could be a gun or something.
joe rogan
No, that looks like the rod, dude.
That's the thing that went through his fucking head and he lived.
adrienne iapalucci
And now he's keeping it.
unidentified
Oh, that's what it looked like!
joe rogan
Oh my God!
adrienne iapalucci
Wait, so it didn't go through his eye?
joe rogan
It went through his head and destroyed his eye.
What do you think that...
What did it say it did to his personality?
jamie vernon
So this was like the first study in psychology.
It's changed psychology.
joe rogan
Right.
What did they say?
How did they say it affected his personality?
Phineas Gage on second thought.
That's interesting.
What does that say on the top?
The title of it?
jamie vernon
Before profane and hostile afterwards.
joe rogan
A re-examination of the famous case of a man whose personality changed from a grievous brain injury.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Okay, wait a minute.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Alright, I'll find another way.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard to know.
This is a funky site.
The dude who runs that site's funky.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, I bet he wasn't a good time to be around.
joe rogan
Well, it does definitely dramatically change people.
I was reading about this guy who developed an ability to see mathematics in geometric form.
And it's called acquired savant syndrome.
So this guy started creating like geometric art, like apparently had no interest in mathematics at all.
And then I think he got mugged.
I think he got beat up and then developed some bizarre mathematical ability.
adrienne iapalucci
I mean, that's better than the people that have, like, traumatic brain injuries and become pedophiles.
joe rogan
True.
adrienne iapalucci
Like, definitely pray for the mathematic genius.
joe rogan
Well, I know quite a few comics about him.
Roseanne Barr, Kinison, both got hit by cars.
Both changed their personalities dramatically afterwards.
It's probably, like, quite a few people that just got knocked in the head and then just became a different person.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
Which is really weird.
It's a sketchy thing.
adrienne iapalucci
Oh, no.
Your joke was about somebody taking medicine.
joe rogan
Oh, the joke about, yeah, the Parkinson's drug?
adrienne iapalucci
That's true.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
Yeah, it's called a dopamine agonist.
And apparently with some people, it completely removes their inhibitions.
adrienne iapalucci
Right, he was gambling.
joe rogan
Gambling, gay sex, just went off the rails.
adrienne iapalucci
And would you say he lost like $600,000 or something?
joe rogan
Somewhere in the neighborhood of that, yeah.
Lost everything.
adrienne iapalucci
But then when he stopped taking the drug, he was okay.
joe rogan
He got back to normal.
He's like, what the fuck was I doing?
He won in court, which is the craziest thing.
He sued GlaxoSmithKline.
adrienne iapalucci
But he lost more money.
joe rogan
He lost as much money as he gained back and was also raped twice.
No, raped once, I think.
adrienne iapalucci
He was raped or he raped?
joe rogan
He was raped.
adrienne iapalucci
He was raped.
joe rogan
Yeah, he picked a guy up off Craigslist.
adrienne iapalucci
I guess he didn't see that.
joe rogan
He just became addicted to gay sex and gambling.
adrienne iapalucci
It's crazy to like stop doing that and then you're like, wow, I remember all those dicks I took.
joe rogan
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
That was a crazy time.
joe rogan
Well, he was a different human.
Like his brain, like we don't think about it this way, but your brain is essentially this...
Functional ecosystem of all these different things, dopamine and serotonin and all these neurotransmitters and then the blood that's flowing through your body, it's all operating on this sort of like fairly regular schedule of what's available to use and how you interpret consciousness based on The chemicals.
And then all of a sudden, you introduce this new shit.
And this new shit makes you want to suck cock and play bingo.
adrienne iapalucci
It's just crazy that both of those things are like the same in this guy's head.
joe rogan
Well, it's just wild impulses.
I'm sure he had probably other impulses.
I don't know if he got more violent, but that sometimes happens where people can't control.
You know, like someone cuts you off in traffic, and you want to be like, oh, this fucking idiot.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
Well, they just fucking can't take it!
They just want to drive someone off the road.
They just lose their impulse control.
That happens to people with CTE as well.
A lot of people with CTE, they have a very short fuse.
Like, very short fuse.
adrienne iapalucci
Didn't they think that happened on Aaron Hernandez?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, they said he had the worst CTE I think that they had ever diagnosed and he was alive in 28. Well, he's dead, obviously, because they did an autopsy.
But I mean, he was alive at 28 before he killed himself with the worst CTE they had ever seen.
So it hadn't even killed him.
adrienne iapalucci
Right.
joe rogan
But it had destroyed his brain.
I mean, his brain was destroyed.
It was just filled with holes.
adrienne iapalucci
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Crazy.
And they said that when they studied football players, there's some extraordinary number of football players that have CTE. It's in like the high 90%.
And this is not just college.
This is high school, college.
adrienne iapalucci
But all those people that have those high CTE counts, like they're not killing people either.
joe rogan
Some of them are.
Not a lot.
No, not a lot.
But the thing about it is, first of all, when it's over, there's a lot of them that wind up killing themselves.
That's a big thing that happens with fighters.
It happens with soldiers also, the PTSD compounding the fact they have brain injuries.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
A lot of heavy depression.
So 345 former NFL players with chronic traumatic encephalopathy out of 376 former players studied.
So out of all those people studied, only 31 dudes didn't have it.
So it's 91.7%.
Among those diagnosed in the last year, two former players who once represented the teams paired in the Sunday Super Bowl, former Philadelphia Eagles quarterback.
Could you do me a favor and just Google Aaron Hernandez CTE results?
jamie vernon
The second highest you could have.
I don't know what the stage is, but stage three.
Worst you've ever seen in someone that young.
unidentified
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
He wasn't playing as long as some of these other people.
joe rogan
That's what's crazy.
Range of symptoms including emotional and behavioral changes, memory loss, and depression.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's nuts.
It's not since 91% of the players...
adrienne iapalucci
It's crazy too that you just keep playing football because you make so much money from it.
joe rogan
Well, I think Aaron Hernandez was a violent dude already.
You know, there was like a lot of abuse in his childhood and there's a lot of crazy stuff.
I think there was a lot going on with that guy.
adrienne iapalucci
Right, so he might have been a little unhinged to begin with.
joe rogan
He murdered a bunch of people, right?
At least one.
They think he murdered at least two.
They think he murdered two.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, I thought it was two.
joe rogan
But I think one is like confirmed.
How many people did Aaron Hernandez murder?
adrienne iapalucci
I know why I thought it was three.
jamie vernon
Should have charged for one.
I mean, dude's playing in the NFL. He was acquitted of a double homicide.
joe rogan
Playing in the NFL. Superstar.
Also, just gunning people down.
With one of the worst examples of CTE they've ever discovered.
jamie vernon
He was found guilty of first degree murder and sentenced to life in prison.
joe rogan
Did he hang himself?
Is that how he died?
Did he hang himself?
jamie vernon
I believe so.
joe rogan
Imagine like an injury like that dude with the rod through the brain and now all of a sudden you're a totally different person.
Like all your life you've been one person and then gone.
That person's gone.
adrienne iapalucci
It's kind of fun.
joe rogan
Maybe not.
adrienne iapalucci
There's only one way to find out.
joe rogan
You would try, like, you would want to know, like, how hard do I have to get hit in the head to be really good at math?
Like, you don't want to overdo it.
adrienne iapalucci
No, you don't want to.
You're like, keep pushing me.
I still can't figure this equation out.
joe rogan
One more kick to the face, please.
I think we're right there.
I think I'm starting to see geometry.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, that's crazy.
joe rogan
But it doesn't happen to everybody.
That's what's weird.
adrienne iapalucci
No.
joe rogan
Some people make some great comics.
Some people just make some brain dead.
unidentified
Yeah.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
There's a fine line.
joe rogan
There's a fine line.
adrienne iapalucci
To genius and brain dead.
joe rogan
In everything there's a fine line.
Alright, should we wrap this up?
adrienne iapalucci
Let's wrap it up.
joe rogan
It was really fun.
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah, thanks for having me.
joe rogan
Thanks for being here.
You're very funny.
I really enjoy your comedy.
I love the risks you take.
You know, you just go for it.
It's fun to watch.
It's great.
It really is.
It's fun.
It's a different thing than anybody else is doing and people love it.
I think there's reason for that.
And I think you're like one of those people that they have to find out about you to appreciate you.
And, you know, that happened with a lot of people.
That happened with, like, Stephen Wright.
That happened with, like, Mitch Hedberg.
Like, people had to, like, know what they were coming for to really appreciate it.
adrienne iapalucci
Do you remember that story?
I don't know when Mitch Hedberg did his special for Comedy Central.
It took so long because he was, like, bombing the whole way through.
You never heard that?
I mean, he's like a genius, but his special, he was not doing well, and they kept filming it.
And finally, he's sitting down on those stairs, because I think he had been at it for a while.
And you watch that special, and it's hilarious.
He's like a genius, so funny.
But yeah, in the room, it just was not going well.
joe rogan
Well, it all depended with Mitch on also who is their complimentary opening act that makes sense.
adrienne iapalucci
Sure.
joe rogan
Like, he would have guys on the road, like, have a middle act on the road that the club would provide, and that dude would be doing backflips and singing songs.
unidentified
Right.
adrienne iapalucci
That's not a great person for you to follow.
joe rogan
It's terrible.
And so people didn't know who he was back then.
It was just, who's the headliner?
Oh, there's a guy named Mitch Hedberg.
Like, why does he have sunglasses on?
Why is he staring at the ground?
adrienne iapalucci
Yeah.
joe rogan
But once they knew who he was, then they would come to see him, and then it was awesome.
And I think there's a thing like that with you.
adrienne iapalucci
Well, what's funny, too, is Louis directed it, and he's like, let's do this thing.
At first, he was like, let's do this thing where nobody knows you're filming a special.
He's like, you know, you're just going out there, and usually half the crowd loves me and half the crowd doesn't.
So I was like, let's do one show like that.
And that show, I tap danced the whole way and it was so brutal.
I left that, the first two shows we did, I was like, the first one was okay and the second one was so brutal because none of them knew who I were.
They didn't know I was doing a special.
They just thought they were coming for a regular show.
And I'm up there for an hour.
And people, like there was like seven people that liked me, but like we all left so dejected.
Like Louis was like, I can't even watch this.
And Ari, I seen Ari being like so depressed.
And then I went home that night and I was like, I'm gonna have to quit comedy.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
adrienne iapalucci
And then the next two shows the next night were amazing.
But like, yes, I'm not for everyone.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're not for everybody.
adrienne iapalucci
Not even my biological father.
joe rogan
Well, you're for me.
I appreciate you.
adrienne iapalucci
Well, thank you.
joe rogan
Thanks for having me.
My pleasure.
So, one more time, Jamie, show it.
It's available now.
Netflix, The Dark Queen.
Tell people your Instagram, all that jazz.
adrienne iapalucci
It's just my name, Adrienne Appalucci.
joe rogan
Spell it, though, because people are like, Appaloochee must mean A. I know.
adrienne iapalucci
But you have an I first, this funky I. But everyone always thinks it's an L, so that's why I was like, we need to use a font where it's an I. So it's A-D-R-I-E-N-N-E, and then the last name's I-A-P-A-L-E. Have you ever thought about just changing your last name to an A? Just put an A there?
unidentified
I mean, everyone thinks it's an L. How about just changing one big A so people know how to say it?
adrienne iapalucci
I feel like I like being a little difficult.
unidentified
You do.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
Keep it that way.
Don't listen to me.
Thank you very much.
adrienne iapalucci
Appreciate you very much.
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