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July 24, 2024 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #2179 - Bridget Phetasy
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joe rogan
Do you have a new phone?
What year is that one?
bridget phetasy
This one is like one of the rehabbed ones.
joe rogan
Those are still good though.
Which number is it?
bridget phetasy
13, I think?
joe rogan
Oh, those are still good.
I have an 11 that's still good.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
I keep an 11 for one of my numbers.
bridget phetasy
Okay.
joe rogan
One of my bullshit numbers.
bridget phetasy
For what?
joe rogan
There's certain people you can't give the real number to.
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah.
Why would you even give them a number though?
You're like a straightforward guy.
joe rogan
Because you have to sometimes.
Sometimes you have to communicate with people.
But you want a phone that you just stick in a fucking drawer somewhere.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, and check like once a month.
joe rogan
If that.
Yeah.
It just gets crazy where so many relationships become like completely transactional.
And, you know, like every time someone texts you, they want something.
And it's just so frustrating.
bridget phetasy
I can see it even being your friend.
I can see it from a fucking mile away now.
People will be like, hey, Bridge!
I'm like, I'm not introducing you to Joe.
Leave me alone.
joe rogan
All my friends have a story.
Somebody who has a business idea.
bridget phetasy
No, I mean...
joe rogan
I think I'm going to help them sell skateboards.
bridget phetasy
If someone's like, hey, let's get coffee.
It's been too long.
I'm like, nope.
Not doing it.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
bridget phetasy
I had a friend from high school reach out randomly.
Hey, Bridge!
Nope.
I see it.
I see it from a mile away now.
I'm like, what is it like to be you?
joe rogan
It's odd.
bridget phetasy
Because I'm just like, you know, like an outer asteroid in the universe, but imagine being like the planet itself.
joe rogan
I've managed to stay myself, which is shocking.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, you have.
joe rogan
But I have really good friends.
You know, my friends are really good friends.
bridget phetasy
And I think you have friends who take the piss out of you.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
And they've been my friends for 20, 30 years.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like Joey and I have been friends for almost 30 years.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
27 years or 28 years.
It might be 30 now.
Fuck.
I might have met him in 94. Yeah.
bridget phetasy
It helps to have, like, I was asking my husband right before I left about a tweet I was going to send out, and he's like, meh.
And I was like, is this too much?
And then I was like, fine!
He's like, oh, what, do you just want me to, like, clap for you?
I was like, I'm so glad you're my husband.
joe rogan
Yeah, you definitely need someone who's not impressed.
bridget phetasy
No, not impressed at all.
joe rogan
Or, at the very least, maybe not impressed, but also not bullshitting you.
bridget phetasy
No.
He will not bullshit.
He won't bullshit anyone.
He suffers no fools at all.
joe rogan
That's great.
That ensures that you won't live in a world of compromise.
bridget phetasy
No.
joe rogan
Some people are okay.
They just fuck up every now and then.
You have to tell them, hey man, don't lie to me.
You don't have to lie.
bridget phetasy
Don't do that.
joe rogan
But it's just this weird thing that people fall back on, bullshitting and lying.
They just fall back on it.
And they don't even know they're doing it to themselves.
You will have less respect for yourself.
You'll...
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it's not worth it.
bridget phetasy
Nah.
joe rogan
It's not worth it because you just create these things that aren't real in your life.
These relationships, these friendships that aren't based on reality.
You know?
And if a person can't handle the truth, you can't tell them, hey, that sucks.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you got to work on this.
You got to change this.
You got to do that.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you don't do that, it's not going to get any better.
You're like, what?
I thought it was the best book ever written.
bridget phetasy
No.
No.
I mean, all my favorite editors have been so hard on me.
I want honest criticism.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You write jokes for your haters.
Write jokes to turn them over.
Like, ah, that was a pretty good one.
Fuck her.
You know, Stan Hope told me once that he writes jokes like a defense attorney.
bridget phetasy
Oh, interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah, he examines his jokes as if he was like prosecuting them.
It's great!
That's really funny.
It's very similar to mine.
What I said, I write jokes for haters.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta look at it like a hater sometimes.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because you can get too in love with your stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's too easy.
It's too easy to get in love with your stuff.
bridget phetasy
The audience will tell you too.
joe rogan
Well, that's the difference between comedy and other things.
It's hard if you're just a journalist.
You kind of believe your opinion makes sense.
And all of them are doing the same thing.
Almost all of them, except for the independent ones.
They're almost all doing the same things.
They're expressing their thoughts to a very particular group of people.
And they're also lying about another group of people almost always.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like the right does it and the left does it.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, it's all fan fiction.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is fan fiction.
Like the right does it with liberals because liberals aren't Antifa.
Liberals aren't the people that are lighting Starbucks on fire and shooting cops.
That's not liberals.
That is just a thing that has existed in a team where you allow anyone to join a team.
So if you have something where anybody can join the team, right, which is basically what being a liberal or a conservative is, anyone can join the team.
bridget phetasy
No, they don't like the sludge, Joe.
joe rogan
Everybody loves sluts.
Not the conservatives.
Not publicly.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Listen, I know a lot of those ladies fucking party hard, but they do it for Jesus.
unidentified
No, no, no.
bridget phetasy
We'll get to that.
I know.
joe rogan
They do it for Jesus.
bridget phetasy
I'm just saying, publicly, keep those sluts out of our party.
joe rogan
It's the same thing, though, man.
I'm telling you, it's the same thing.
If you were in Antifa, or if you are Patriot Front, I could have got either one of you fucks.
You just gotta get them early, get them when they're vulnerable, talk them into a very specific ideology.
You know who's your problem?
The Jews.
unidentified
And next thing you know, they think the Jews really are their problems.
bridget phetasy
And they kind of meet on that.
unidentified
They're kind of shaking hands.
joe rogan
They get together with the Jews with now, which is odd, right?
Because of Palestine and Gaza, that's where it's kind of come around.
Like, that moment in time, it's like, everybody's mad at the Jews now.
It's like, fuck.
bridget phetasy
I mean, that's the ancient conspiracy theory of all conspiracy theories that it's the Jews' fault.
This is like one of the oldest conspiracy theories of mankind.
joe rogan
Well, the Jews make it real tough to join.
They're one of the more interesting religions.
Like, if you want to join, my uncle joined.
My uncle converted to Judaism.
He married a nice Jewish lady.
bridget phetasy
I kind of want to convert.
joe rogan
Go for it.
bridget phetasy
I kind of do.
It's a lot of work.
joe rogan
Let's see what's up.
Let's see what new information you get.
You'll tell me, right?
You'll get the new memos.
You'll get a part of that ProtonMail list.
But he had to work really hard at it.
And I met a lady he was converting, too.
I was doing a show once for SyFy where I was trying to get people to...
Maybe it was for The Man Show.
I don't remember what it was for.
bridget phetasy
Wait, were you on The Man Show?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
bridget phetasy
I was an extra on The Man Show.
joe rogan
I was in the second generation.
unidentified
I really wasn't very good.
bridget phetasy
Oh, right.
Okay.
I was an extra in the first.
joe rogan
But what we were trying to do is I was trying to get people to convert me.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
So I'd go to all these different religious groups and say like...
bridget phetasy
It was pretty easy, wasn't it?
unidentified
Well, it's just like I want to know who's got the best deal.
joe rogan
Like, what sounds the best?
bridget phetasy
Everyone got me.
joe rogan
It opened my eyes.
It did.
Because I got to see what I believe are genuinely kind people who want a good result for human beings.
They really do.
And a lot of them really genuinely believe that their structure, their ideology and way of thinking is really the path to happiness, which is ultimately like the path to God.
You know, without, you know, breaking it down to cult-like thinking and how people get absorbed in ideas that are untenable, that just don't make any sense, they're completely ridiculous, but they, like, scientifically-minded people attach themselves to that if it's a part of their religion.
Without that, what everybody wants is something good, and they think that the way to have something good for the people that join is to, like, sort of demonize the people that aren't joining, or demonize the other ones.
It's a tribal thing.
But it's just like all these little patterns of human thinking that we have.
People have it with everything.
You see with cell phones.
You know, you see with Android people versus iPhone people.
unidentified
It's just a normal human...
joe rogan
Tribal characteristic that's embedded in our DNA that if we don't address and recognize, we're not going to overcome the hurdle because we're going to be pretending as if it doesn't exist and as if your side is right and the other side is wrong and not just looking at it like, oh, we're stuck in a blue versus red, white versus black, one versus zero.
It's just a tribal thing that exists in the way we operate and we have to be aware of it.
And not get mad at people for falling into it because it's normal to fall into it.
It's literally a pattern that's embedded in the code that makes you a human being.
It's how we created cities.
It's why we're here today.
bridget phetasy
It's interesting because I've been reading that, rereading my favorite book, Trickster Makes This World, and how the trickster...
joe rogan
Who wrote that?
bridget phetasy
Lewis Hyde.
It's all about trickster...
joe rogan
What a great title.
bridget phetasy
Oh, it's so good.
But it saved me at a point because I didn't really...
I had a hard time, and I think this is where Jordan Peterson is so good talking about archetypes, knowing kind of the archetypes, and I didn't really know my role, and I read this book, and I was like, oh...
joe rogan
Can you tell me the name of it again?
I'm going to get it.
bridget phetasy
Trickster Makes This World.
joe rogan
Trickster Makes This World.
bridget phetasy
It's so brilliant.
It sounds cool.
Actually, one of the quotes that I put in your card is from that book.
unidentified
Really?
bridget phetasy
It's one of my favorite quotes ever.
It's all about, he who dupes others and who has also duped himself.
He's creator nor destroyer.
The people I've noticed who have stayed the most sane is a term I'm using loosely.
The people I've noticed, it's like comedians, people who are kind of like tricksters.
They've managed to kind of ride the waves of the past eight years because I think they're not too attached.
And in this book he talks about how there was all this trickster mythology like Coyote and Hermes and then it got kind of turned into the devil.
And it became evil versus good.
And when that happened, when the loss of that mythology in the culture happened, it became much more black and white and this kind of dualistic, like you said, tribal thinking without all of...
This gray area that I do feel like I look around like malice and all the people.
Most of the people who I've been hanging out with and know have been kind of having a blast for like eight years, you know?
First I watched everyone on the left lose their mind.
Then people on the right lost.
It was like I was having the same conversations for four years with the left.
Then I was like, all the people on the right, it's going to be fine.
It's not the end of the world.
And then here we are again.
Here we are again.
joe rogan
Here we are again.
And the only people that make any sense are the ones who aren't on either team.
The people that say things like, you know, as a conservative, I... You're a fucking human being.
Don't say it that way.
Don't think it that way.
There's a bunch of things that you believe, but don't put yourself in a fucking group.
Because there's probably a bunch of stuff that the left agrees with, that you would probably agree with too.
Yeah.
You can't be resistant to those ideas simply because they're attached to people you've decided are the enemy, because they might be right.
They might be right about welfare, right?
They might be right about, hey, maybe kids shouldn't ever be fucking starving.
As a group of humans that live together on this one little patch of dirt called North America, maybe we should agree that since we have this gigantic amount of money, that no kids should be hungry.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
How about that?
And then, since we got that done, hey, how about regular people?
How about no people should fucking starve?
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Regardless of whether or not you think people are lazy or this and that, how much would we solve if no one could possibly starve?
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
We set up free restaurants or free kitchens in every city.
unidentified
We have them.
joe rogan
We should have really good ones and massive ones.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, for real.
Like, food should be free.
For a lot of people.
If we're this rich as a country?
bridget phetasy
We're pretty rich.
joe rogan
So let's have no babies starve, no babies be malnourished, nobody starves to death.
bridget phetasy
I mean, health, too.
Health care would be...
joe rogan
100%.
bridget phetasy
You shouldn't be going bankrupt.
joe rogan
But you'd have to revamp the whole thing.
You'd have to get to the real nitty-gritty, like, why are you prescribing this?
Like, who's making money off of this?
How did this happen?
How many ads did you guys run?
What did the ads say?
What are the studies?
What are all the studies?
Not just the ones you submitted.
What's the actual data instead of the data that's reviewed by the pharmaceutical company and then given to the scientists in the report when they do their peer review?
When that was explained to me, I was like...
You guys are making too much money.
You're getting crazy.
This is what it is.
You went above and beyond the rules because you have too much power and influence.
But also, you do great stuff.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, they do.
joe rogan
Also, they make life-saving drugs.
Also, they stop a lot of diseases.
Also, see, there's a lot of good there.
You can't say the pharmaceutical drug companies are all evil.
Bitch, they keep us alive in a lot of respects.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, they do.
joe rogan
They keep people healthy.
They've saved people from depression.
There's like a lot of good that pharmaceutical drugs and the drug companies have done.
They've saved people who have diabetes.
There's a lot of good.
A lot of good.
So let's say that they're all evil.
No, it's fucking money people.
bridget phetasy
It's easier to do that, though, too, because you don't have to really come up with a solution if everyone's just at each other's throats.
joe rogan
Well, there's not enough oversight.
If there was real oversight, objective oversight by people who actually knew what they were doing, they would never let them get away with prescribing a bunch of stuff that they knew was going to have a negative effect, like the Vioxx scandal.
That's part of the whole scandal, was that they knew that people were going to have these effects, these side effects, that were very bad.
They knew it.
They talked about it in emails, these knuckleheads.
They're fucking so stupid.
They said, we're going to have some problems, but we also think we're going to do well.
They're explaining all the, like, you know, cardiopulmonary, cardiovascular, all these different blood clotting problems.
I have a friend who had a fucking stroke when he took that stuff.
bridget phetasy
No!
joe rogan
He was in his 30s.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was in his 30s, a martial arts champion.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I'm glad I'm kind of stupid and I just am like a clown.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
I'm not smart enough to fix these problems.
I can observe them and experience them on my own and see that it does behoove these people to just have everybody fighting so that they don't actually have to come up with, like politicians in particular, they don't have to come up with real solutions.
They can just be like, it's the other guy forever.
joe rogan
Have you ever lived in a house that has black mold?
bridget phetasy
No, thank God, because that shit will destroy you.
joe rogan
It'll destroy you.
Yeah.
I've had a couple friends who have had problems with black mold, and it's really interesting.
And usually what happens is they get sick, and they're sick all the time, and they can't figure out why they're sick.
bridget phetasy
And they're tired.
joe rogan
They're really tired.
They're just worn out all the time.
And then finally they get their house examined and somebody probably suggested to them and then, oh Jesus Christ, your walls are filled with black mold.
And a lot of times it's like a leaky pipe or something, a leaky pipe and there's water in the walls and all the moisture.
And in Texas it gets crazy.
They get it bad out here.
But when you have that, you have to burn the fucking house down, essentially.
You have to cut out all the walls.
It's a very invasive process.
Remember that guy, Tom Likas?
Do you remember Tom Likas?
He was a radio DJ in LA. It sounds familiar.
unidentified
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah.
Yep, yep, yep.
joe rogan
Yeah, he had Flash Fridays where girls would pull their tits out.
He would tell people they're useless on the phone.
Remember that guy?
He had that.
That happened to him.
And he was explaining it to me.
He said it was horrific.
He's just sick all the time.
Couldn't figure out what was up.
bridget phetasy
And it's hard to get out of your system.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Hard to get out of your system.
It wrecks your health.
And it takes a long time to recover just from the effects of it.
It's essentially a breathing poison every day.
And who knows what it actually does overall that you're not going to recover from.
It might actually take years off your life.
Who knows?
But the point was it's really hard to get rid of it.
It's so invasive.
And I think that's where money is today.
Money is with pharmaceutical drugs.
Money is with politics.
It's like we could all agree.
I think we could all agree that The way the pharmaceutical drug companies should work is they should be very careful about what they prescribe and they should be very careful about side effects and they should be very careful about what is addictive and not addictive and what should be prescribed openly and regularly and what should not be for the greater good of humanity.
And even if they did that, they would still make ungodly amounts of money.
That's what's so crazy about all this.
But it wouldn't be the maximum amount of money.
And when you have a publicly shared company, it's your responsibility to the shareholders to make the most money, and you make more money every quarter.
You want to keep going.
Let's go!
Let's go!
Let's fucking go!
Let's go!
bridget phetasy
That's why planes are falling out of the sky.
joe rogan
That's also why you get a private jet, because you gotta let's fucking go.
bridget phetasy
I need a private jet.
joe rogan
That's been attached, unfortunately, to our health.
And then you get people that, you know, they fucking advocate for public health, and they look super unhealthy.
And they're telling you that the only solution is bang, bang, bang.
And the only solution is generally tied to something they have invested in.
It's fucking crazy, but it's black mold.
It's black mold.
bridget phetasy
It is.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
bridget phetasy
And it shouldn't exist.
And the resistance to getting stock trading out of politics.
Like, you shouldn't be able to affect the stock and trade on it, the policy about a company, and then be able to make...
It's like crazy to me!
joe rogan
Millions and millions of money.
Have you seen the Nancy Pelosi one where they question her?
No.
You never saw it?
bridget phetasy
I feel like maybe.
I have seen it.
joe rogan
Finds it.
It's fucking amazing.
Because she's all stammering.
She looks like she's a little drunk already.
And then they hit her with it.
She's like, what?
I think we should be able to participate.
But it's just...
bridget phetasy
Oh, I think she, I have seen this.
unidentified
It's amazing how badly she handles it.
bridget phetasy
They're so rich.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Crazy rich!
bridget phetasy
How are you hundred millionaires?
You get paid like...
joe rogan
$170,000 a year.
And you're worth hundreds of billions of dollars.
That is so wild.
bridget phetasy
It is very Rome-esque, you know?
unidentified
It's amazing.
joe rogan
It's amazing they do it right in front of you.
Like, I'm not jerking off.
I'm not jerking off.
It's raining now.
bridget phetasy
They come right in your face and they're like, suck it.
joe rogan
The whole thing is so crazy.
unidentified
It's so crazy.
joe rogan
It's so crazy because there's so many of them and then nobody talks about it.
The other ones don't talk about it because then you look at the list and it's like black.
bridget phetasy
It's bipartisan.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's bold.
Here we go.
It's blue.
It's red.
Some of the Republicans are making the most.
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Congress and their spouses be banned from trading in No, I don't know to the second one.
nancy pelosi
Any, we have a responsibility to report in the stock, on the stock, but I don't, I'm not familiar with that five month view, but if people aren't reporting, they should be.
unidentified
Because this is a free market and people We're a free market economy that should be able to participate in that.
bridget phetasy
That's such bullshit!
Like, saying that it's a free market when you know...
joe rogan
You're going to pass laws, and those laws are going to affect the company.
It's going to make the stock go up.
That's crazy!
bridget phetasy
Okay, yeah, that is a free market, I guess, for you.
unidentified
It's not that.
It's free for you.
joe rogan
Well, that's crazy if you could fucking go to jail for insider trading.
Like, what is that?
What?
Come on.
What is that?
bridget phetasy
You know, Martha Stewart's watching this like, these motherfuckers.
joe rogan
Well, we figured that out the other day.
Martha Stewart did not go to jail for insider trading.
She went to jail for lying to an investigator.
She was lying under oath.
bridget phetasy
They all lie, though.
She's lying right now.
joe rogan
Was she lying under oath, or was she just lying when questioned?
Something like that.
Yeah, something like that.
So that's why she went to jail.
But that's like a little trick they do.
You know, they get you to start talking.
And then, you know, you don't tell the truth about something.
Have you ever talked to Doug?
Do you know Doug?
Doug?
Who's Doug?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right away, you're lying.
Right away, you're lying.
And for her, I don't even think it was a lot of money, which is really crazy.
She would have only lost, like, a certain amount of money.
She's super duper rich.
Yeah, you're like, huh, who the fuck is Doug?
Fucking, what?
bridget phetasy
Like, you're lying.
We see you texting Doug right here.
joe rogan
Oh, no!
unidentified
Not Doug.
joe rogan
And then you think, like, Signal is really encrypted.
bridget phetasy
His name was Douglas.
joe rogan
They're showing you the fucking things from Signal.
Why were you doing it on an encrypted app?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How did you read it?
Wait a minute.
bridget phetasy
Just ridiculous.
joe rogan
Do you believe any of these apps are really, truly encrypted?
bridget phetasy
No, none of them are encrypted.
They're all CIA honeypots.
joe rogan
They're all honeypots.
I think they are encrypted, but I don't think that matters to the fucking CIA or the NSA or whoever wants to read your shit.
unidentified
That's like this fucking shooter.
bridget phetasy
I was like, give me whatever phone that kid has.
joe rogan
Oh, we can't get into it.
Yeah, we can't get into his phone.
Like, what the fuck are you talking about, bitch?
You get into Elon Musk's phone.
jamie vernon
They got into it.
They couldn't get into it on the field, but they went back to Quantico and got the software update, and then they got into it like an hour.
joe rogan
Oh, the software update.
The old software update.
That's what they're calling it these days.
The software update!
unidentified
That's how they crashed all the planes the other day or whatever.
bridget phetasy
They were like, oh, it was a software update.
It took one software update to stop all global flights?
joe rogan
I read the ultimate of ultimate conspiracies.
bridget phetasy
Oh, I want to hear it.
joe rogan
Please let America know I've done zero research into this.
And I just saw a tweet.
And the tweet was essentially saying that this company was owned by a Ukrainian billionaire.
bridget phetasy
Oh, here we go.
It's Zelensky.
joe rogan
That this company that...
What's it called?
CrowdStrike?
bridget phetasy
CrowdStrike.
joe rogan
That crashed the entire internet for all the fucking airlines.
Was owned by some rich Ukrainian guy.
This was like this grand conspiracy.
There's so many good conspiracies going on.
If you're into conspiracies, it's like murder mystery podcasts.
bridget phetasy
No, it's like that meme with the guy from where it's like...
joe rogan
There's so many.
bridget phetasy
And by the way, so many of them have become...
How about the phone call?
Which phone call?
joe rogan
The phone call with Kamala Harris and he's on speakerphone.
bridget phetasy
But they found him now.
joe rogan
Allegedly!
bridget phetasy
No, there's video.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Listen, I'm not saying that he's not really, that's not really Joe Biden.
That's a guy in a CIA makeup suit walking up the stairs.
I'm not saying that.
But they can do that.
unidentified
Wait, so what's the conspiracy about CrowdStrike that I don't understand?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I didn't read into it.
bridget phetasy
I know.
joe rogan
I never did.
That it's owned by some Ukrainian billionaire.
It's like, dude, you know, there's ties to Joe Biden.
bridget phetasy
I love how it's like telephone.
joe rogan
Hunter Biden.
unidentified
And there's Ghislaine Maxwell in the planes.
It's like...
Jesus Christ!
joe rogan
I can't keep up with the season!
bridget phetasy
I can't.
joe rogan
The season, every night when the episode ends, I sit in my couch and I go, what are they gonna do next?
bridget phetasy
You're like, I'm afraid to turn it off.
I was talking to my sister on the way and I was like, and she was going off about something and she's like, I was like, oh, did you see that this kid might have had ties to the FBI? She's like, he did?
I'm like, I don't know.
unidentified
I saw a tweet, but I'm just gonna tell you that Yeah, let's send it to Jamie for further investigation.
joe rogan
So the allegation is that this kid had been visited multiple times.
See, they got cell phone data, so they got geo-tracking data, and some phone had been visiting him and going back to Washington DC on multiple times.
And that this thing had been happening near the FBI location.
I know I have it here somewhere.
I know I have it saved.
But goddammit, so many people are sending me this shit today that I can't keep up.
bridget phetasy
I'm sure, I'm sure.
joe rogan
Oh, it's Tim.
Tim sent it here.
Me and Tim Dillon are going back and forth all day on conspiracies.
bridget phetasy
That's like Landau and I, Dave Landau, all day long.
joe rogan
He's a fun dude.
bridget phetasy
Oh my god, my favorite human.
One of my favorite humans.
He's just a good...
When I got back into comedy, he started letting me open for him, and his crowds are amazing, first of all.
The guy's been on the road for like 20 years but watching him it's like he's good at everything I don't understand he's gonna act out he's good at crowd work he's good at like coming up with shit that day from the news cycle like the guy is like it's actually he's one of the most underrated comic well I think there's a lot of comics that for whatever reason they never caught a break they never caught a thing that got them out there that people got to see him but they're really good He's
doing Mothership, though.
I'm excited.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, he's doing it.
The weekend a friend of mine was gone.
bridget phetasy
I'm opening for him.
joe rogan
She was telling me that it's in October.
bridget phetasy
It's the end of August.
joe rogan
Oh.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
bridget phetasy
Last weekend in August.
joe rogan
September 1st is when my friend's going.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
It's going to be fun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
He's just like a joy to watch.
And his humor is so dark.
joe rogan
Well, he's a good dude to hang out with, too.
bridget phetasy
He's so good.
joe rogan
Oh, here it is.
bridget phetasy
He's a good person.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
This needs to be shared everywhere immediately.
The Heritage Foundation.
unidentified
First of all, red flags all over the place.
joe rogan
First of all, what's the Heritage Foundation?
bridget phetasy
They're like the, you know, Project 2025 people, I think.
joe rogan
Oh, I love it.
They got Jesus on speed dial.
The Heritage Foundation just released cell phone data of a mysterious figure who made frequent trips between Trump shooter Thomas Matthew Crook's home and a building in D.C. near an FBI office.
Well, you know what?
My house is fairly close to a taco deli, but there's really no connection.
What does that mean?
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
I love it.
joe rogan
Nine devices were identified in the analysis linking to both his home and work.
Oh.
jamie vernon
How does that data get out?
joe rogan
Well, let's find out, Jamie.
bridget phetasy
So here's the thing.
I had this guy on my podcast, Walk-Ins Welcome, back during the BLM stuff, and he said all of it...
joe rogan
Jamie, get back to it.
Open the link.
There's no link?
jamie vernon
No.
I went to this oversight committee's plate.
I was looking for their original tweets about it.
joe rogan
Do they have...
The Heritage Foundation has a post about it on their website?
jamie vernon
I never saw it from Heritage Foundation.
joe rogan
Can you go there without catching braces?
bridget phetasy
Oh, you know the guy I had.
Coach T. Oh, okay.
So I had him on my podcast and he said all the guys who were marching in BLM were either homosexuals or actors.
He's like, there are no black men who are marching in this.
And he was like, not like...
Like, heterosexual black men.
That's hilarious.
unidentified
He said this.
bridget phetasy
I lost a sponsor for it.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Because Coach T said that?
You lost a sponsor?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Were you supposed to edit that out?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Can't people have opinions?
unidentified
Well, he's a black man!
bridget phetasy
He can't say what he...
joe rogan
Also, he's funny.
Saying something funny.
bridget phetasy
He's also hilarious.
joe rogan
And he probably laughed when he said it, right?
bridget phetasy
Then the cell phone data came out because they can track all of us all the time, and it turned out it was like he was deadly accurate.
It was like...
joe rogan
Misinformation!
bridget phetasy
He said, are people confused about their identity?
That's what he said.
unidentified
He said, don't.
bridget phetasy
People in entertainment, homosexuals, are people confused about their identity.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
What is this, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Heritage Foundation tweeted this oversight project thing that says, assassination info drop.
joe rogan
So it says four hours of congressional testimony later, and we still have more information about the assassination attempt on former President Trump from X and oversight PR than the Secret Service, DHS, or the FBI. We found the assassin's connections through our in-depth analysis of mobile ad data tracker to track the movements of Crooks and his associates.
bridget phetasy
Wow.
joe rogan
To do this, we track devices that regularly visited both Crook's home and place of work and followed them.
So think about what they're saying here, though.
Analysis of mobile ad data.
So the ads are tracking you every step of the way, wherever you are.
And it's just open about it.
bridget phetasy
When my husband was...
The ads outed my husband looking for a ring for me.
I started getting ads for rings.
It's creepy shit.
joe rogan
Well, we were talking about the other day, Jamie, what was, oh, purses.
So, someone was explaining to me, my wife is explaining to me, like, what purses and why people like certain purses, and some purses are, like, exclusive, like, you have to develop a relationship.
bridget phetasy
They're an investment!
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to develop a relationship with the person selling the purse in order to get one of those purses.
You can't even get the ones that are on the shelf.
I can't go buy that?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Like, it's like Rolex is like that.
If you go into a Rolex store, you can't just buy a Rolex.
Like, no, no, no, sir.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
We don't have anything for sale.
You have a giant store!
What the fuck is this?
So I was talking about it with her, and then all of a sudden I started getting these purse ads on my Google.
bridget phetasy
She knows what she's doing.
joe rogan
So it's listening.
But it's just listening.
And we just accept that.
bridget phetasy
But it also knows who's in the same room together.
So I knew my husband was looking for rings for me, and then I started getting ads for the ring.
joe rogan
It's a dirty rat.
bridget phetasy
It's a fucking rat.
joe rogan
But the thing is, like, how do they get that data?
bridget phetasy
I think that's, like, the...
joe rogan
Publicly available?
bridget phetasy
Yeah, a lot of it, I think, or you pay.
I think you pay.
joe rogan
So you can pay and then plug in a phone number?
jamie vernon
I've thought about asking you if we can do an investigation like this just for funsies to see, like, what data can we get?
joe rogan
Yeah, let's do that.
Let's track Jamie all day long.
Let's see which massage parlor Jamie's going to to get that.
jamie vernon
We can pick someone.
bridget phetasy
Happy ending.
jamie vernon
Some willing participant.
joe rogan
I mean, for real, but that's creepy because then they just have to find your phone number, Jamie, and they'll know what your route is based on ad tracking data, which is crazy.
That seems like a huge security liability.
jamie vernon
I was talking to someone out in the lobby, the new journal app on the iPhone, which is probably iOS 17 or 18. It keeps giving me prompts.
bridget phetasy
Oh, fuck that thing.
jamie vernon
Write in your journal.
I was looking through it yesterday.
It's broken down by where I go, what I was doing there, and then it knows.
It's like, do you want to write about your golf day at this place for Monday?
You were out to lunch here.
How about your day at work with Marshall and the dogs?
joe rogan
It's like, what the Dirty little spy.
jamie vernon
How does that work?
joe rogan
Dirty little spy.
bridget phetasy
I wrote a whole piece about those menstrual tracking apps because I had one back when I was dating my husband and then I was like, hey, can I sign you up just to see how weird this is?
And he's like, this is fucking creepy.
I don't want to know that you're in your luteal phase or whatever and I have to be nice to you.
And it gives him tips.
joe rogan
Oh no, not tips.
You know what would be great though?
If you had a real female heavy government And, you know, they would all have coinciding menstrual cycles if they all work together all the time.
And then you could, like, get all their data and figure out exactly when this shit is about to hit the fan.
And you could, like, run the stock market that way.
You could, like, make bets.
Because when the shit's gonna hit the fan, they're gonna be fucking angry.
Things are gonna go sideways.
You're gonna have a dip in productivity.
You're gonna have people resigning.
Something's gonna go wrong.
bridget phetasy
This is all the stuff the left is very worried about with like J.D. Vance because allegedly he's like big and I don't know if this is true.
America, I don't know if this is true.
He's allegedly into like the menstrual tracking and you know these billionaires are getting behind these apps so that they can like and there's a lot of fear.
joe rogan
What do they want from that?
bridget phetasy
There's a lot of fear with like the states that don't allow abortion because now they want to like pull up your You know, records and see if you might, I don't fucking know.
I read these things and I'm like, I never, I don't know what's true or not or what's just being like, you know, just hyperbolic so that people freak out about this stuff.
But there's, yeah, there's a whole industry in this now.
Like a whole menstrual tracking.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
bridget phetasy
I was listening to a podcast the other day and I never knew why women's cycles synced up.
joe rogan
But here's my question.
What do they want from it?
What do they want from that data?
bridget phetasy
What?
joe rogan
What are these guys that are tracking menstrual cycles?
bridget phetasy
Well, it's generally presented as something that's good for the women because then you can like eat and work out with your cycle because if you are in perimenopause or premenopause or you're like in the prime of your life, you want to do different things at different times in your cycle and different foods are better.
joe rogan
Right.
bridget phetasy
Like hormones for women are nuts.
Dudes just have like what?
You've got one?
Yeah.
Women have like three that are constantly interacting and all it's so depending on what they just haven't done as many studies so now they're trying to say like oh it's good to know where you are so that you can support yourself allegedly all these guys want this for like Handmaid's Tale?
I don't know.
joe rogan
That's what I'm asking.
What do the guys want it for?
bridget phetasy
This is a conspiracy.
jamie vernon
The article I'm reading says that there was a new regulation.
HHS finalized a new regulation under HIPAA to limit law enforcement access to medical records tied to reproductive health.
So they go all the way down to saying local police agencies might simply take it upon themselves to pull the records to see who had unexplained disruptions in their menstrual cycles.
To find out if someone crossed state borders.
bridget phetasy
To go get an abortion.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
bridget phetasy
It's nuts.
unidentified
Ooh.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Imagine your own menstrual cycle isn't private information?
bridget phetasy
Nothing's private.
joe rogan
But imagine that.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Imagine, like, someone can sneak in and say, what happened?
And you have to explain you had a fucking miscarriage to some asshole who's accusing you of driving to Ohio or wherever the fuck you'd have to go.
Imagine?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just imagine those conversations if you're a person who had a miscarriage.
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah.
I mean, these are happening.
joe rogan
Imagine if you're married and happy and you were trying to have a kid and you had a miscarriage and some fucking asshole is at your front door accusing you of getting an abortion and you have to deal with this Christian fucking cult member with a clipboard, you know?
Aggressively accusing you of killing your baby.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, yeah.
jamie vernon
It stems from what they call the Dobbs decision, which changes the rights of states.
joe rogan
So Dobbs decision tore away the constitutional right to privacy and bodily autonomy by giving states increased rights to limit and even outlaw abortions.
Fortunately, the decision did not ban abortions nationwide.
jamie vernon
So then they were saying that some of these new regulations could allow them to go even further and check, like do whatever they have to do to check, kind of.
They're trying to stop that.
joe rogan
Isn't it crazy that one of our biggest arguments as a country is whether or not you should be allowed to kill a baby?
Isn't that crazy?
bridget phetasy
I love you.
joe rogan
That really is what it is.
And I'm not a pro-life person.
I don't think it's my decision.
I don't think I have the right.
It's too weird.
Especially if I'm not involved.
I'm a politician.
I'm looking at a person and deciding whether or not they should have to have that baby or not.
It seems crazy because it seems like...
It's one of those weird human things where, are you saying the moment of conception it's a baby?
Like if it's three cells and you know for a fact that that's when you can't shut that down?
But then, if you ever go to the bodies exhibit, that fucking creepy exhibit that I talk about, and they have babies.
They have babies at every stage.
You see them at six weeks, eight weeks, ten weeks.
unidentified
First of all, How'd you get those?
joe rogan
I don't want to know.
Second of all, it really puts it in perspective and it changes this idea.
Just putting it in a box, a woman's right to choose.
Right, yeah, definitely.
Not by place.
But look at that.
Look what we're saying.
Look what we're saying, the choices.
Look what we're advocating for.
bridget phetasy
I think most Americans—like, when you poll Americans, it's very much, I think, where I end up landing, they're squishy on it, and it's like pro-life in the sheets—like, pro-choice in the streets, pro-life in the sheets.
Like, a lot of women are like, I wouldn't get an abortion, but I don't want to— Stop someone else from doing that.
joe rogan
And then there's this slippery slope of allowing people to tell you you can't get an abortion.
Especially allowing men to tell women that they're not even remotely connected to.
That they can't have an abortion.
It's like a weird body autonomy thing.
And it's like That's what I mean.
And a lot of them want to disclude crazy things, like a child that is never going to live, like unviable.
Or it could be a threat to the woman.
There's some sort of a medical issue.
It could be a threat to the woman's life unless they abort the baby.
And even then, they're like, no.
Let God sort it out.
bridget phetasy
Well, they'll make exceptions for this, allegedly.
But the doctors are worried often about losing their license in states where it's highly regulated.
So you end up...
joe rogan
Sketchy.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, it's sketchy.
And I don't think, like, you know, it's a slippery slope to, like, get the jab, too.
You know, I don't think you have to have some kind of bodily autonomy.
But I understand the argument, too, from the moral perspective.
I had this woman, Inez Stepman, on my podcast, and she's brilliant.
And she was like, you know, it's a hard conversation because it is a moral...
If you're not conflicted about it, you're not thinking deeply about it.
Because it is a life, and as someone like Ben Shapiro would say, left untouched, that would be a baby.
And I think, was it Burr who had that brilliant bit?
joe rogan
Brilliant bit.
unidentified
Brilliant bit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Louis has a brilliant bit on it, too.
unidentified
It's complicated.
joe rogan
It's complicated.
bridget phetasy
There's no getting around that fact.
I understand the fight for it, you know, if that is where you lie.
joe rogan
Yeah, but this thing of having people track your fucking cycle.
Yeah, no, the cycle.
And having like crazy like bow tie wearing Christian guys do it.
You know what I'm saying?
bridget phetasy
I just love that in your mind they're like these like, hello!
joe rogan
Pray the gay away type dudes.
bridget phetasy
Pray the gay away.
joe rogan
You know, there's, you know, they can, they mask themselves in A blanket of virtue through religion the same way a lot of woke people do by being mean cunts and thinking they're doing it to be like progressive.
bridget phetasy
Well, they have their own version of Pray the Gay Way.
joe rogan
It's the same.
Yeah, they do.
But they're doing what they're doing by wrapping themselves up in these ideas of Christianity.
It's just allowing people's worst instincts to be able to be justified.
Instincts to control people and dominate people and destroy people.
People have weird instincts to just destroy people.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
And people do have weird things about women.
Like there is just a very – it is very strange to think – I don't know.
Are there, other than like the jab, when people were like, you gotta get the jab.
I can't think of, I don't know, and maybe I'm wrong.
Is there like a comparable scenario where men's bodies are kind of like this battlefield?
None.
Nothing.
joe rogan
Nothing remotely close.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Nothing's remotely close.
bridget phetasy
And again...
joe rogan
No one has any control over men's bodies.
I mean, the only thing they can tell you is don't take steroids, which they do.
But who's going to jail for that?
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
And also there's testosterone therapy that people get.
Yeah.
It's not steroids, but no one's stopping you from doing that because it's beneficial and helps people.
bridget phetasy
Testosterone sounds awesome.
joe rogan
It's great.
It's great stuff.
It helps people.
It helps your body retain its vitality.
And you don't want a broken down, old, fucking shitty body.
It's really that simple.
And everybody attaches testosterone to douchebaggishness, and I totally get.
I totally get where that's coming from.
Douchebaggery, shitty behavior, unnecessary aggression.
Yes, 100%.
But not always.
And it's like all things.
It's like, yeah, cars, people drive recklessly and they drive drunk and they cause accidents.
Right.
But not always.
So let's not ban cars.
Let's not automatically assume that all things masculine are bad.
bridget phetasy
No.
joe rogan
This is a stupid thing.
bridget phetasy
It's so unhealthy, too.
joe rogan
Also, ladies, that's what you like.
bridget phetasy
That is what you like.
unidentified
Ladies.
joe rogan
I know you don't want to admit it, but that's what you like.
You just like it when it's nice.
That's all it is.
bridget phetasy
Kinda, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You just don't want it mean.
And you don't want it ruining civilization.
And that's what it does.
Because it ruins civilization.
Like, if wars were all women, there'd be no fights.
There'd be very few.
There'd be a few brawls in, like, Wendy's at 2 o'clock in the morning.
There would be no real war.
It's not the same thing.
You know what I'm saying?
But I'm saying if there was wars, if entire populations were all women, I mean, no men.
Men don't exist.
So women exist only in the form that they exist today, right?
Let's pretend they don't need men.
And they just exist like this.
There'd be fucking zero war.
bridget phetasy
What do you think about this argument, though, that the other thing that's destroying civilization right now is not having enough men dying in wars?
unidentified
Boo!
bridget phetasy
Like you have all these men who generally would be kind of sacrificed in these wars historically, and now they're all just like keyboard warriors who hate, you know, their incels basically.
There's an argument that people make about like, we need to put them back in the coal mines, they need to like get back to...
joe rogan
I've got a much easier solution.
Jiu-jitsu.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, or that.
joe rogan
It should be mandatory.
You know how you learn how to read?
You should learn how to strangle people.
bridget phetasy
Both sexes.
joe rogan
Yes, definitely.
Well, jujitsu is the absolute best self-defense for women.
For women.
100%.
There are women that are 130 pounds that can put you to fucking sleep if you're a big grown man.
They will fucking strangle you.
They will take your back, you won't be able to stop it, and they will get their hooks in and they'll put you to sleep.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a 100% fact.
bridget phetasy
You just need a fighting chance to get away.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, but you you also need to be able to defend yourself and like one of the best things about jujitsu is the guard and Learning how to fight off of your back now if you're a woman and some guy takes you down and tackles you Learning how to effectively defend yourself off your back is fucking huge.
Yeah, it's absolutely huge because technique can overcome physical strength Yeah, it really can especially in that position I want to get back into it.
Because they learn how to shield with their shins.
They learn how to grab at the biceps and the shoulders and prevent you from using your strength.
They learn how to get under hooks and to go behind you.
They learn how to defend themselves.
bridget phetasy
Do you know if there's a place in Austin that does women's self-defense?
joe rogan
100%.
Well, we don't want women's self-defense.
I'm not disparaging women's self-defense classes, but what my feeling is is that you should learn how to actually fight.
I used to teach Taekwondo at Boston University and then they had this women's self-defense class that they were going to do there too.
And I got a chance to watch it.
And I was like, none of this is going to work.
No, this is going to work.
bridget phetasy
When I was taking a Gracie in Beverly Hills, it was jujitsu, but it was specifically like you get grabbed from behind.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
The Gracies do a different thing, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
So you were learning how to fight, but it was specifically like generally you're in a car.
joe rogan
This is the reason why I'm saying this.
Knowing how to do something is not enough.
It's just not enough.
You have to train it.
bridget phetasy
Right.
It has to be automatic.
joe rogan
Yes.
You have to train it all the time.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you don't train it all the time, when the thing happens, you'll have to think.
You don't want to have to think, right?
bridget phetasy
No, it has to be like muscle memory.
joe rogan
Yes.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
One of the best things about jiu-jitsu is when you're rolling in the class, the person who you are sparring against is generally going close to 100% of their strength.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
When there's certain positions, like there's certain things that they're doing to you where they are using all their might to try to achieve a dominant position, a passing of a guard, you know, a finishing up of a submission, they're closing up a submission.
You're accustomed to that.
So it's a normal thing.
When you do sparring and karate class, you kind of touch each other.
So when somebody really fucking blasts you, you're not used to that.
You might freak out.
Jiu Jitsu, it becomes automatic.
It's the absolute best martial art for people because if you're in a physical struggle with someone, if some guy grabs you at a bar and the bar table behind you falls over and you're on your back, You know exactly what to do.
You don't even think.
You're in the middle of chaos, and it's as easy as tying your shoe.
You know exactly what to do, but it's because you've done it a thousand times.
bridget phetasy
This is like shooting, though, too.
It's why you've got to train.
joe rogan
You should train everything.
Everything you do that's important to you.
Everything.
It's stand-up comedy.
You have to do a lot of sets.
If you don't do a lot of sets, you don't feel sharp.
You have to feel sharp.
bridget phetasy
It's been so fun to get back because I kind of convinced myself maybe I just had a 10-year phase.
joe rogan
Of comedy?
No.
bridget phetasy
And then my friend Ariel Isaac Norman, who runs a Gay Enough show, she's amazing.
And she was like, just come do one set and see how you feel.
And I was like, I don't know.
I'm a mom now.
Yeah.
Maybe that was just my lesbian summer that I had or whatever.
And she was like, just try it and see.
She's like, you can lie to yourself about this, but once you're a comedian, good luck getting that out.
And once I got up, I was like, goddammit, I gotta do this now.
And it's not something you can just do.
You've gotta do it.
joe rogan
Well, also, you feel the puzzle again.
bridget phetasy
I love the puzzle!
joe rogan
You feel the puzzle, you go on stage, you're working the puzzle out, and you're like, okay, I'm in.
bridget phetasy
It's so humbling, too.
I just love eating shit and being like, I don't know, it was funny.
Someone was like, why are you doing that?
I'm like, well, I can either be a successful pundit or a failed comedian, and I'd rather be a failed comedian.
joe rogan
Well, even the successful pundit is not mutually exclusive.
bridget phetasy
No, I know.
joe rogan
Look at Jimmy Dore.
He does both.
bridget phetasy
Jimmy's great, though.
He's smart, though.
joe rogan
He's such a funny stand-up, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He did stand-up at the club when he was in town doing my podcast.
I haven't seen him live in forever.
He was really funny.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was really sharp.
bridget phetasy
Yep.
Yeah, it's been...
joe rogan
Such a nice guy, too.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I've always wanted to...
I don't know him.
I've always wanted to meet him.
joe rogan
He's a sweetheart.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's a really nice guy.
bridget phetasy
I like him a lot.
Every interaction I've had with him has been pleasant.
That guy goes hard.
joe rogan
He goes so hard.
bridget phetasy
He knows a lot, though.
joe rogan
He does.
He's ruined Kurt Metzger.
bridget phetasy
Why?
joe rogan
Kurt Metzger is so far down the conspiracy rabbit hole now.
bridget phetasy
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
Every fucking conspiracy Kurt Metzger's balls in.
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And he just freaked out by everything because he didn't know all this stuff until he started working with Jimmy.
He started working with Jim and he's like, Jesus Christ!
And now he's just like, he's just in.
Every time I find anything that's fucked up, I send it to him to get him worked up.
bridget phetasy
Kurt?
joe rogan
Yes!
And he sends me like these walls of text.
You want to see these walls of text?
bridget phetasy
I love him.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen them?
bridget phetasy
No.
joe rogan
Have you ever been texting with Kurt?
bridget phetasy
I wish.
joe rogan
Let me show you a Kurt Mesker wall of text.
bridget phetasy
When they were here doing their show.
joe rogan
Look at these walls of text.
Look at these.
Look at these walls of texts.
Watch these.
I'll get you a good one here.
Here we go.
Here's a good one.
Look at this wall.
bridget phetasy
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Here's another good one.
Here's another good wall.
He'll just go at you.
bridget phetasy
That guy's like a joke-writing machine, though.
joe rogan
He's a genius.
No, he's a genius.
I mean, his mind just...
He has a, like...
You know when they open Dan?
unidentified
Whee!
That's what it's like.
bridget phetasy
Do you sleep?
joe rogan
He just goes so hard.
He's such a great joke writer.
It's such a fun dude to hang out with, but the tweet walls are fucking insane.
bridget phetasy
Their thing that they did at Mothership that he and Kyle did.
That shit is genius, too.
joe rogan
Donagin is one of those guys where you want to talk about someone who's not appreciated for how good he is and a true genius.
His face swaps of Trump.
Did you ever see the one with Trump and Caitlyn Jenner?
They're having sex?
bridget phetasy
No!
joe rogan
I think that was the one that they wouldn't let on Comedy Central.
Because, you know, briefly, he was going to do a thing on Comedy Central with the face swaps, but they're too good on Instagram.
They're too good.
Like, he's too free.
And the craziness is the freedom.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did you ever see the one where Caitlyn Jenner was explaining about her new vagina that she got to the girls and how she masturbates with it with a weed whacker?
unidentified
The whole thing is so horrible.
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
And the girls are like, what?
Have you seen it?
He's got the Kardashians in the background.
Find that, please, Jamie.
They were so good.
He does the best Caitlyn Jenner.
It's fucking insane.
He does the best Trump.
bridget phetasy
When they did the land acknowledgement, it was like a picture of you kicking like a...
The audience had no idea what to make of this.
They're like, what is happening right now?
They're like, we need to do a land acknowledgement.
unidentified
It was like watching NPR at Mothership.
bridget phetasy
It was so good.
joe rogan
Do you remember when they used to announce what color the clothes they were wearing?
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
My pronouns are she, her, and I'm in a blue dress.
bridget phetasy
Didn't Kamala do that?
joe rogan
Yes, yes, yes.
They only did it for a few weeks, and they're like, too much, too much!
Everybody back out!
Back out!
That one was so stupid that even people in their party were like, what the fuck are you doing?
What the fuck are you doing?
That's like if the right-wingers started going, my name is Bob, I'm a patriot, and I believe in Jesus Christ.
Everybody's like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Bob, we're just talking about the infrastructure.
We're just going to fix the road, Bob.
Calm down, Bob.
bridget phetasy
My name is Bob.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
Bob doesn't believe in gays.
joe rogan
Bob doesn't believe in gays.
unidentified
They just resist, resist, resist.
joe rogan
Do you know that's what Ben Shapiro told me?
bridget phetasy
What?
joe rogan
Like, you should just not do it.
And that it's like one of those things like you might want to murder someone, but you shouldn't because it's a sin.
unidentified
Like, yo.
joe rogan
I think it's...
You met any gay guys?
You met any gay guys?
unidentified
Just clench that b-hole and pray.
joe rogan
But first of all, what are they supposed to do?
Pretend they like girls?
Have you met gay guys, like actual gay guys?
They're real, okay?
It's like thinking that a bear is a fucking teddy bear.
An actual gay guy is a real thing.
Leave them the fuck alone.
Let them fuck guys, you weirdo.
You bow tie wearing clipboard having fucking weirdo.
What do you care?
What do you care?
They want to fuck each other.
bridget phetasy
Who cares?
I feel like we're surrounded by pearl clutchers.
Everywhere I turn, it's pearl clutchers.
joe rogan
It's also, why is that pleasure so forbidden?
For a lot of people that are pro-lifers, gay sex should be your favorite sex.
Because nobody's going to have a baby and there's going to be no abortions.
You know how many abortions the gay community has?
Fucking zero.
If everyone's going to hell, for sure they should get a pass.
At least they haven't killed any fucking babies, right?
So is it okay if gay guys massage each other?
Is that okay?
Oh, that's fine.
Oh, yeah, yeah, you can give each other back rubs and foot rubs and butt rubs.
Fine, but just don't touch the dick.
That's crazy.
unidentified
That is absolutely crazy.
joe rogan
If you can get a job, if you're a gay dude, you can get a job rubbing backs and butts and feet for $50 an hour, or you could rub dicks for $150.
Like, it seems like it's quicker, you know?
Get to the point.
Make your money.
Who cares?
What do you care?
Do you want to touch his feet?
You don't, right?
You're doing it for money.
You don't want to touch his dick either.
bridget phetasy
The argument, I guess, would be it was like a slippery slope to all the...
joe rogan
It's prostitution.
bridget phetasy
...gender stuff.
joe rogan
Well, it's a slippery slope to...
Here it is.
jamie vernon
I don't know if I found the right one that you want.
joe rogan
Let's just try it.
Let's just check.
Hold on.
What is it?
unidentified
We're mad at you.
bridget phetasy
Everything is mad at you.
unidentified
Why?
bridget phetasy
Ah, shit, I forgot.
unidentified
We forgot.
bridget phetasy
Hey, kid!
unidentified
Dad, you need new tennis shorts.
Why?
It's like everyone could see your hunane today.
Oh, maybe because I put too much of Kylie's lip puffer on my lips.
Yeah.
That goes on the lips on your face.
Are you serious?
Eh?
I paid 80 grand for that cooch, so maybe everyone should see it.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, baby!
unidentified
So embarrassing.
Oh, you're embarrassed?
Let me give you your name real quick.
jamie vernon
Hey, look, a picture of the inside of your asshole.
Shut the fuck up, Kim.
unidentified
Hello?
It's Kim K.
I'm at the side door.
Hello?
Okay, I'll buzz you in.
The door is closed.
Yeah, you gotta push it.
It's locked.
Yeah, wait until I buzz you.
Okay, push it.
Why didn't you open it?
There was a weird buzzing noise.
Yeah, that means open the door.
It's a Bach.
You have to wait until I buzz you, Jesus Christ.
bridget phetasy
I love him so much.
I love him.
It's just not right.
joe rogan
This is better than anything that Comedy Central has other than South Park.
unidentified
No.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they fucked it up.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the thing is, when they were doing it over there, here's the problem.
First of all, they were using better technology.
And I think that's one of the things that makes it fun is how shitty it looks.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Because you don't really think it's Kim Kardashian.
You don't really think it's Caitlyn Jenner.
The stuff he does is perfect, and they were doing it with high-end stuff.
bridget phetasy
Oh, right.
joe rogan
And it kind of looked creepy.
bridget phetasy
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
And I think the one with Caitlyn Jenner having sex with Trump, it might be one of those lost recordings.
bridget phetasy
Maybe he has it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think he's ever even released it.
It's hilarious.
bridget phetasy
I should ask Marlene.
joe rogan
It is hilarious.
bridget phetasy
I bet my friend has it.
joe rogan
And I'm pretty sure Trump's on the bottom.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
If I remember correctly.
bridget phetasy
I don't know.
These networks are done.
joe rogan
Unfortunately, they're hamstrung, right?
They're hamstrung by their format.
They're hamstrung by the fact that they have to have commercials every five to seven minutes.
They're hamstrung by that.
Then they're hamstrung by the fact that they're on commercial television.
So there's language restrictions and content restrictions.
You're not going to take a risk.
The people that are the producers and the executives, they're the ones who get to make the decisions as to whether or not you should take a risk.
And generally speaking, unless a show is really successful, like South Park.
South Park, they stay out of the conversation.
Leave those fucking guys alone.
They're geniuses.
Let them do what they're going to do.
And it's going to be amazing.
But if you're a beginner, they're not going to do that.
bridget phetasy
No.
joe rogan
They're not going to take that chance.
And because they're not going to take that chance, because they have this weird relationship with their advertisers and they can't be free, they're never going to be able to compete with someone like Kyle.
unidentified
No!
bridget phetasy
And you would have to offer him a lot of money to even make that worth it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but even if you did, you'd have to let him do that.
The thing is about Kyle, it's like if Kyle was on the staff of a regular Comedy Central show, you know, as a writer or producer, he would not be able to shine.
You've got to leave him alone.
bridget phetasy
Well, this is why I think Shane dodged a huge bullet.
joe rogan
Yes.
bridget phetasy
Because, man, how hamstrung he would have been working at SNL. He would have still done his shit.
Of course.
joe rogan
He would have gotten heat and people got mad at him, but he would have been the same guy.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, but I still think like you get reigned, even the one that he did when he was a guest, the funniest sketch of his, they didn't air it.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
But that's just, they don't want to.
There's like, no, there's like real internal cockfighting on that show that people have explained about like whose sketches get picked and whose not get picked and...
And there's been a lot of accusations of, like, certain writers taking premises from younger writers.
That's what Jim Brewer said.
bridget phetasy
Oh, interesting.
joe rogan
Like, they have a database of stuff they're working on, and then someone would just see what you're working on and then steal it.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Phil Hartman told me about that, too.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah, Phil Hartman told me there's all these, like, it's weirdly competitive and backstabby.
He was a horror show.
Like, when Phil first came over to news radio...
It took him a while to just relax and be friends with us.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because he almost thought of us as being like fellow cast members on SNL. So this is like this combative sort of distance relationship.
bridget phetasy
Interesting.
joe rogan
And the cast of NewsRadio wasn't like that at all.
We were all getting drunk together and having fun and laughing.
bridget phetasy
It seems like it's competitive.
SNL. Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's not just competitive.
It's like backstabby competitive, according to Jim Brewer.
He hated it.
He just could not deal with the way that things were done.
bridget phetasy
It's like high pressure, too, and very stressful.
joe rogan
It's also a prestigious position that people are fighting for.
You're a writer on SNL. You're a producer on SNL. This is like you're in that hungry part of your career where you're making things happen and you're competing with all these other people.
bridget phetasy
When it was good, it was great.
joe rogan
Oh, but it's only great when you have wild people who you let do funny things.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't do a lot of the things that they used to do.
bridget phetasy
Oh, God, no.
joe rogan
It was like Chevy Chase and Richard Pryor when they were like, I'm going to say a word and tell me what you think.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's the first word that comes out of your mouth?
It's like, you couldn't, there's not a chance in hell.
bridget phetasy
You couldn't do genuine slut.
joe rogan
You couldn't do any of that.
bridget phetasy
No.
joe rogan
You might be able to do land shark.
You know, but like even the fucking samurai thing that John Belushi used to do, you couldn't do that because it's cultural appropriation.
You can't pretend to be a Japanese guy.
They're broken.
bridget phetasy
But do you think Hollywood is, like with AI and all this, do you think that it stands a chance?
joe rogan
Yeah, it'll make awesome movies.
They're still gonna make movies, but they're gonna make movies entirely on a computer.
The people that are gonna be fucked are the actors and the writers.
They're fucked.
And then the animators.
They're fucked.
They're fucked.
Everybody's fucked.
All these special effects houses, you're fucked.
Everybody's fucked.
There's not a chance in hell that you survive.
bridget phetasy
They won't just use the technology to...
joe rogan
They won't need you.
bridget phetasy
Improve.
joe rogan
If a studio is making films, all they're going to need is algorithms.
bridget phetasy
They all kind of look like they're made by algorithms already.
joe rogan
What's going to happen is, they're going to do that, and then the number one movie in the world is going to be a movie that a kid made on his cell phone.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
He's gonna make it with editing it on fucking iMovie on his phone or whatever it is.
And he's gonna make it off of his cell phone.
It's gonna be like the Blair Witch Project.
bridget phetasy
Or like Napoleon Dynamite.
joe rogan
It's so real.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But special effects and all that shit, that's out the window.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
I don't know.
It seems like my friends who are still in Hollywood in LA, we've been talking and they're like, the wheels are coming off the bus out here.
They had a strike.
And they're like and we never recovered really and now the work is drying up because they are just using AI. Well it's not just that.
joe rogan
They're gonna be able to make real films real quick for real cheap and they're gonna do it and it's gonna cripple that business.
And if those films make any money, if they're any good, if people like them, it's gonna be so strange man.
So many jobs are gonna be useless.
We are literally giving birth to our successor.
unidentified
And we're all like, oh, Meta's got an AI now.
joe rogan
Let me ask it some questions.
bridget phetasy
Do you use AI at all?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Zero.
unidentified
Zero.
joe rogan
I have a Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra that has some AI features that I thought were interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
One of them was you can go to a website and it'll summarize the website for you.
Yeah, yeah.
That's kind of cool.
And there's some other things it does.
It summarizes notes for you.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Transcribes notes.
But other than that.
bridget phetasy
There's good things like for transcription, stuff like that.
I think that it is useful.
It can do it in no time at all.
joe rogan
I probably should ask it questions.
bridget phetasy
But it is...
joe rogan
About things.
If I have questions about a subject.
bridget phetasy
I asked it.
I was sending Tony a screenshot because I was asking it about the...
I asked it about the top comedy podcast and Kill Tony wasn't on there.
And I was like, it's shadow banning you.
joe rogan
AI's doing that?
bridget phetasy
I asked this AI search engine that I've used, you.com.
joe rogan
Well, for sure some of them are curated.
Some of the results are curated, just like Google results are curated.
It's very difficult to get certain stories now.
If you try to Google certain stories, things that have happened in the past, very hard to find.
And it seems like DuckDuckGo has been compromised, too.
bridget phetasy
Oh, no.
unidentified
Not DuckDuckGo.
joe rogan
Yeah, I used to think that it was really Go, but it seems to mirror the results of Google now.
bridget phetasy
So where do you go?
joe rogan
Where it didn't use to for any weird stuff.
There's Brave.
Brave has a search engine that I think is with no algorithm.
I don't think it's curated.
I think there's a few other ones that you can go to that are like small-end search engines.
They're all tied into the same thing, right?
They're all tied into this great database in the world.
I just don't know I don't know what's going on behind the scenes that if you Google certain things, it will only give you positive things about a person.
And if you Google other people, it will only give you negative things.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
Doesn't it seem, though, like tech is shifting a little more rightward?
joe rogan
No.
bridget phetasy
Only X. But, I mean, didn't freaking Zuckerberg the other day come out and be like, that was the most badass?
Or was that AI? No, it was real.
joe rogan
He said that.
But how much of a say do you really think Zuckerberg has over the entire business of Meta?
bridget phetasy
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's the owner, the CEO, the big dog.
But he's also one human being.
bridget phetasy
Hunting people in Maui.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's doing jujitsu.
He's really into a lot of fun things.
He's having a good time, right?
I mean, he's not there every day.
For sure, people are getting shadow banned, and it's not like he's behind the scenes pulling the triggers.
It's a company, and it's a giant, huge company that is, like all these companies, heavily influenced by advertiser dollars.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, Dumpster Fire, we get that a lot from people.
We get emails constantly that they've been unsubscribed.
Like, I get one a day.
And we've reached out to YouTube and been like, hey, why does this happen?
They're like, well, if you can get a screen recording of that happening.
I'm like, so someone's supposed to record themselves being unsubscribed.
Like, this is impossible.
Then maybe they'll investigate it.
And dumpster fire is, you know, we're kind of like, like my friend the other day was like, the shit you say on that show, like, I'm like, we're fine flying under the radar.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're not.
No one is, you know, even people that are kind of flying under the radar, they're not.
They know.
The algorithm's picking up things you say.
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They know what you're talking about.
And they don't like when people are questioning certain narratives.
bridget phetasy
No, no, no.
And it's funny.
Our slogan for dumpster fire is we make burgers out of your sacred cows.
And it is so funny.
Back to our tribalism thing.
Everyone has their thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
Where you'll say something and they're like, ha ha, we love you.
And the minute you're like, and then blah, blah, blah.
And they're like, bah!
How dare you?
And that's all they hear.
That was your thing.
I'm sorry I stepped on your third rail.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You need rubber shoes, bitch.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The whole thing is stupid.
And it's very unfortunate there's no real competitors like a Twitter that's just a video thing like YouTube is.
bridget phetasy
He's trying, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, maybe he'll be able to do it.
It's possible.
If anybody's going to do it, Twitter's going to do it.
bridget phetasy
He's going to do it.
I mean, thank God we would not know the president wasn't dead.
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm just spreading conspiracy.
joe rogan
Do you think that that's a guy in a suit?
Let's watch the video.
bridget phetasy
Are you okay?
joe rogan
No, I got something in my eye.
bridget phetasy
You want to get it out?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
It's nothing.
bridget phetasy
You want to put some water in there?
joe rogan
No, I think it's actually just a cigar ash.
bridget phetasy
Do you have eye drops?
joe rogan
No, don't worry about it.
I'm fine.
I'm a mom now.
I know.
Thanks, Mom.
I want to show the video of Biden walking up the stairs of Air Force One.
Walked a little too sprily for my money.
bridget phetasy
But can we talk about just how objectively insane this is right now?
joe rogan
That we're arguing whether or not the president is really alive.
bridget phetasy
But also, like, everything that's happened in the past, what is it, 10, 11 days?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
And this is, there's a large, we were all talking about this before we started recording, there's a large population of people who are acting like this is all just normal.
Like, oh, what's the big deal?
All the, like, people who are probably still wearing masks, they're all like, oh, what's the big deal?
I'm like, if this was Trump and he was installing, like, if just reverse parties and this was happening with Republicans, it would be literally Hitler going on.
The end of democracy.
It's fucking banana town.
joe rogan
Zoom in this fake Biden real quick.
Just kidding.
Go full screen.
Not him.
bridget phetasy
He has no idea where he is.
unidentified
How are you feeling since you dropped out of the race, sir?
bridget phetasy
This is sad.
unidentified
Can Harris beat Trump?
No.
joe rogan
He's walking pretty good.
bridget phetasy
I don't know.
This is sad.
joe rogan
Or...
That's a 40-year-old guy in a suit.
bridget phetasy
But Trump nearly got assassinated.
joe rogan
Look at those hands.
Those are young hands.
bridget phetasy
He dropped out of the race with a notes apology.
joe rogan
I want to analyze this like the Patterson-Gimlin Bigfoot footage.
jamie vernon
See his gait compared to other...
joe rogan
Yeah, I want to see his gait.
I want to study his gait with fucking AI software.
Hey, chat GPT. Tell me if this is the real Joe Biden based on how he walks.
jamie vernon
I did see someone put...
It also could be fake.
They put the audio of the phone call into like 11 labs and it said it was like 98% chance it wasn't real.
joe rogan
Yes.
I don't know if that was real.
Let me send that to you too, Jamie.
bridget phetasy
When I texted you about Trump, I was like, it's fucked up that we even live in a time where all of our first reaction, which rightfully is, is this real?
unidentified
When I heard about Trump, I was like, is this AI? Yeah, everything seems fake.
joe rogan
People were thinking that, I mean, didn't that one lady tweet that she thought that Trump only got shot in the head so he doesn't go to jail?
bridget phetasy
Wait, oh, so it was him?
joe rogan
She was trying to, I'll tell you right in a second after I sent that thing to Jamie.
bridget phetasy
This is, I mean, I get kind of turned on by all the chaos because I come from it.
Like, I do, I'm like, please stop, I'm going to start masturbating to Twitter.
It's too much.
It's just too hot.
joe rogan
It It's so crazy.
It's just like every day it's crazier.
Okay, who it is?
Gail Helt.
She said, so it says, this is like Aaron Rupert said, Nancy Mace apparently said this.
I guess it was on one of those news channels.
Donald Trump literally took a bullet for our country.
And this lady posts, no, he didn't.
He was hit with a bullet because he's desperate to stay out of prison.
Now, supposedly these are deleted tweets.
So this might be bullshit.
So we have to find out that because the Russians are always trying to keep us at each other's throats, ladies and gentlemen.
And then there's the 4chan trolls.
So that might not even be a real tweet.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
So let's find out if that's a real tweet.
Because otherwise I'm going to make you cut that out so we don't get sued.
Who is Gail Haight, first of all?
unidentified
Helt.
joe rogan
Gail Helt.
H-E-L-T. Why would you get sued?
bridget phetasy
By who?
joe rogan
People will sue you if you read a fake tweet.
bridget phetasy
With their name on it?
jamie vernon
Twitter account.
Which Twitter account should I look up?
joe rogan
The Twitter account.
Hold on, sorry.
bridget phetasy
This is amazing.
joe rogan
I know.
Hilarious.
bridget phetasy
It's G-H-E-L-T. But it feels like the Trump thing's already out of the news cycle.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
What's the big deal?
You just got shot in the head.
bridget phetasy
No press conference?
Nothing.
joe rogan
Did she get rid of her account?
That's the lady.
Yeah.
So that's the claim.
bridget phetasy
CIA analyst.
joe rogan
CIA analyst.
bridget phetasy
Honeypot.
Don't click on it!
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
His account does exist.
So she killed her account after this.
bridget phetasy
This is weird.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
And do you know that Biden, when he announced that he was not going to seek re-election, it was National Ice Cream Day?
I was like, we live in a simulation.
joe rogan
Okay, context, morons.
The point was that, no, he didn't take a bullet for his country.
The point was that he's running to stay out of prison, and thus is why he took a bullet.
No one believes he set himself up, and you're a fool for trying to twist this into that.
Uh...
Gaslight?
You didn't say it very well if that's what you meant.
bridget phetasy
What?
jamie vernon
Yeah, she must have deleted her account.
joe rogan
Yeah, you did not say it very well if that's what you meant.
If that is what you were trying to say, well, you did a bad job of expressing yourself.
You can't call people morons because you literally said that.
He was hit with a bullet because he's desperate to stay out of prison.
Like, that can be interpreted in a lot of ways.
bridget phetasy
This is end of days.
joe rogan
So here's the thing about the AI voice thing.
So play this.
unidentified
I know yesterday's news is surprising, and it's hard for you to hear, but it was the right thing to do.
I know it's hard because you've poured your heart and soul into me.
joe rogan
Okay, now listen.
unidentified
Let's just go on old Eleven Labs and see if that's really all they probably used for this.
So...
I love it.
joe rogan
Nerds cannot be stopped.
Very likely.
Probability 98%.
unidentified
They didn't even really try.
bridget phetasy
But he's going to speak soon, allegedly.
joe rogan
That guy in the fucking makeup is going to speak.
That 40-year-old guy with them 40-year-old hands.
That guy had young man hands.
He didn't have dead man hands.
I don't know, but here's the thing.
If you have a letter like that, okay, and this is how he resigns, he resigns or says he's not going to run again, with a letter.
The letter does not have a presidential seal on it, and the letter has a digital signature on it, right?
That's what it was, right?
Okay, maybe.
But before that, before he got COVID, didn't he say that he wasn't going to quit?
He did, right?
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
So they killed him.
joe rogan
Well, there's been a lot of weird stuff.
We haven't seen him since then, right?
And then he gets COVID, and then all of a sudden he says he can't.
And they also said that they gave him 10 doses of Pax Lovid.
Is that true?
Google that.
Because I read that, and that might be some Russian troll shit, because they might be saying, like, they're waiting for doctors to go, that would kill him!
Why do you give him 10 doses?
That's fucking insane!
bridget phetasy
They're like, well, we couldn't kill Trump, so now we've got to kill Biden.
jamie vernon
He might have been exposing a glitch where every few times that app says that anything was created by it.
joe rogan
Oh, well, here's one way to find out.
Why don't we take a segment of us talking right now, upload it, and see if it thinks that we're AI. Can we do that?
jamie vernon
I can't do that.
joe rogan
How come?
jamie vernon
Because we're recording it right now, and I'd have to stop recording it.
joe rogan
Can we stop recording for just five seconds and then do that?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
No?
Can I record something on your phone and then maybe upload it to that?
I'm just curious.
Imagine?
jamie vernon
I could get an older podcast and do it.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, do that.
Yeah, put a little chunk up there.
Let's see what's up.
How funny would that be?
bridget phetasy
If it's like 98% fake.
joe rogan
People would be like, then here's the new conspiracy.
Joe Rogan is AI. The government created him.
That's the whole reason why that show became popular.
There is no fucking way they would allow that show to say the crazy shit they did.
It's all ops.
It's all undercover, deep ops.
bridget phetasy
Everything's an op.
joe rogan
Controlled opposition.
bridget phetasy
That was what they all said about me when I came on the scene.
When I started writing and talking, they were like, she's a deep state plant sent to undermine conservatism.
joe rogan
Are you?
No.
Here's the thing.
If you were on the outside looking in, you probably would think that that's the case.
But if you want to pay attention to the way this whole administration's going, pay attention to Karine St. Peter, whatever the fuck her name is, the White House press secretary, accidentally tweeting Trump's post from her account, wrong account.
Remember that?
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
This is incompetence.
If you look at the crew of people that's responsible for the press in the White House, they're all like young kids.
They're all young kids, first job, and she's their boss.
And then you look at that guy that was the fucking Sam Brinton that was stealing women's clothes.
He was in charge of nuclear energy.
Everywhere you look, Pete Buttigieg, all these people, it's incompetence.
bridget phetasy
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
It's massive incompetence glued together.
I don't think there's a grand plan.
bridget phetasy
This is what my husband always says.
joe rogan
I think there's a bunch of really incompetent people scheming and clump and banging heads and not knowing what to do and arguing with each other.
bridget phetasy
And afraid to lose their jobs.
unidentified
Chaos.
joe rogan
And a dude who's 40 years old in a Biden suit.
And that's...
bridget phetasy
And also the deep state conspiring behind all of it to make it look like it's just these incompetent dummies.
joe rogan
They think that everybody's somehow or another like some sort of a plant.
I wish I could tell you where you would understand me and believe me.
I think most of the things that you think are like deep state are not.
I think this whole thing is way more chaotic than we give it credit for.
It's not as easy as like they're manipulating us, they're controlling us.
Yeah, they're fucking trying, for sure.
But it's not working anymore.
And that's part of the problem.
bridget phetasy
Right.
joe rogan
Like, before in the past, no one had Internet search access to how much money Nancy Pelosi was making.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, you'd be like, all right.
joe rogan
They just did it.
They were doing it forever.
They just did it that way.
And no one knew, right?
Except the people that also did it.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Because they were doing it, too.
Which is why they never call each other out.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
They're all a bunch of criminals.
So now that we all know that, like, this is all...
Everything's been exposed to the point where they want to keep justifying the way they're doing things.
They've got to be very clever about it.
So I can't wait to find out the results, whether or not I'm AI. You are AI. Whew.
bridget phetasy
Imagine, if the world is a simulation, I might be AI. I was talking to a family member about just the incompetence and secret service stuff and hiring these people and they're firemen, basically.
And they were telling me that they had to hire an actual...
He's like, none of these are lies.
They had to hire an autistic kid.
And he's like, this kid hides in the bathroom And takes naps during the day.
But once you kind of hire these, you know, neurodivergent people or whatever, you can't really fire them.
So they had to like track it and like keep.
And he said another guy they hired who was like something wasn't right, got into a minor fender bender in one of the trucks and like froze up.
And he's like, this is a first responder who froze up when they got into and wouldn't get out of the truck.
And he's like, I'm not making any of this up.
He's like, how am I supposed to fucking work with this shit?
joe rogan
That's crazy.
bridget phetasy
And he was saying the same thing about the Secret Service and all that.
He's like, this is a woman who was buds with Jill, and she was from Pepsi before, and instead of putting some marine in charge...
joe rogan
Okay, look.
They ran the sample very unlikely.
So it was right.
Probability of 2.0%.
It's very unlikely this audio was generated with 11 labs where the audio is manipulated.
jamie vernon
Try it a few times and see if it keeps doing it.
bridget phetasy
Try it a few times, but now we also need to do an AI generator.
joe rogan
But hold on a second.
That makes sense.
Like, that means it's accurate.
jamie vernon
This guy said, this is the guy who made the original tweet.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
This is the guy who posted the goofy little glitch that makes Eleven Labs say his voice was AI-generated once every few tests.
joe rogan
Okay, this is the guy who posted the goofy little glitch.
Okay, so this was a funny shower thought which yourselves and the entire internet placed a near infinite more about of thought.
What?
bridget phetasy
This person is drawn.
joe rogan
This person is out of their fucking mind.
Into than I did.
bridget phetasy
Please carry about your business and stop harassing even about being...
Did fucking AI write this?
jamie vernon
Maybe.
joe rogan
Yours truly, the guy whose cringy jokes often go way too far and the internet scares me.
Please help.
jamie vernon
I think he was just fucking around.
joe rogan
Maybe.
But the point is that we can't listen to anything he's saying now and take it seriously.
The other thing, though, sounded like AI to me.
It sounded like there's a weird...
If you could play it again.
Well, no.
There's a weird, fake expression.
There's a smell.
Like, when you hear it, there's a smell.
unidentified
I know yesterday's news is surprising, and it's hard for you to hear, but it was the right thing to do.
I know it's hard because you poured your heart and soul into me.
joe rogan
It just seems, there's something, the heart and soul into me.
It's something into me.
It's like, it's a robot talking.
It's ex machina.
It's not a person.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, it's like triggering your uncanny valley.
joe rogan
100%.
It's triggering my bullshit meter.
Now, I 100% am only saying this because he's missing.
bridget phetasy
He's not missing.
joe rogan
If I had not seen, except for the guy in the suit, if there was a time where there was no question about whether Joe Biden was alive and I heard that, I would go, oh, that's probably Joe Biden.
Just for full disclosure.
bridget phetasy
Do you think that some accident will happen?
unidentified
Or like, oh, a medical emergency before the speech?
joe rogan
Well, that's what Alex Jones was saying.
Alex Jones was saying they failed to kill Trump, so now they're going to kill Biden because they can't have him run against Trump because he can't beat Trump.
But if Trump got shot, Biden would win in a landslide.
bridget phetasy
I was playing something that I think it was you who sent me about.
It was Alex, I think.
And my husband's like, turn that off!
He's like, Bridget, I can send you a 17th tweet thread debunking the first two minutes of that from a guy in the army.
I'm like, okay.
joe rogan
Your husband needs to get red-pilled.
bridget phetasy
He's just a skeptic.
He doesn't attribute to malice what he can attribute to incompetence.
joe rogan
Well, that's smart, but also malice is real.
So you have to look at both, and you can't be biased in one side or another.
bridget phetasy
Well, I think that's why we make a good balance, because I'm like, no!
joe rogan
It's a conspiracy!
Well, I don't think everything's a conspiracy because I know that some conspiracies that I've personally been accused of being involved in aren't real.
So I'm like, okay, so people are just suspicious.
I think there's a lot of suspicion and also rightly so.
unidentified
Right.
bridget phetasy
How can you not be?
joe rogan
Because there's a lot of conspiracies are 100% real.
bridget phetasy
By the way, I can probably think of three episodes that you and I have done where we talked about how Biden was too old and we got called conspiracy theorists for saying that.
joe rogan
Dude, I had a text message from a friend who was saying, don't you know that Biden has a stutter?
I go, when did he get this stutter?
Because if you go and listen to him when he was running for president in 1988, he spoke smooth.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Smooth as silk.
jamie vernon
We could check this out.
This person says they recreated the phone call using AI. And apparently it sounds a lot like it.
And then go on to win the...
joe rogan
And I've been honored.
jamie vernon
That's not him.
That's somebody else's voice.
Alright, so never mind.
That wasn't Joe Biden.
joe rogan
Okay.
Maybe they're trying to prove a point.
Either way, we know for sure that AI is real.
AI can make you say basically anything they want to say.
We've done it with me.
You know who does it all the time?
Duncan.
Duncan will have Tony Hinchcliffe apologizing for things that he never did and admitting that he's a rainy street assassin.
bridget phetasy
I love Duncan.
I love his stand-up, too.
It's just like...
I love his long...
Like, I want to be in his brain.
I want to crawl into his brain.
joe rogan
You can't get in there.
bridget phetasy
I want to crawl into his brain and look around.
joe rogan
You get a contact high just smelling his brain.
But he did a thing with Johnny Pemberton where Johnny Pemberton pretended to be like a CIA undercover agent or something like that.
They changed his voice.
They changed his appearance.
They changed everything.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
In video, in real time.
bridget phetasy
Oh, I'm sure.
joe rogan
So you know what Johnny looks like?
So it's Johnny Pemberton.
He looks like a 12-year-old kid.
And he looks like a completely different person.
He's saying absolutely ridiculous shit.
And it sounds like this other person's voice.
And this is all...
Like, you could be, you know, Morgan Freeman.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You could start talking and they could have AI... Take your voice, convert it to Morgan Freeman's voice, take your image, take every expression you make, opening your mouth, every smile you make, and convert it into Morgan Freeman doing the exact same thing.
bridget phetasy
This is why there's no pictures of my kid on the internet.
Yeah.
There was this creepy video going around and they took all these pictures of this nine-year-old and it was like in Norway somewhere and they grew her up, had her talking, had her, and because the parents had posted all this stuff and she was like asking for them to come read it.
My most judgy mom opinion, and I don't have many, is we know too much to put our kids online.
Before they're able to...
No, it's crazy.
joe rogan
It's not...
They can't understand what you're doing, first of all.
bridget phetasy
But with AI, you can't know how...
Have you heard about the shit they do in Japan?
They're having a huge problem with turning these images people are putting of their kids into child porn.
joe rogan
Of course.
bridget phetasy
It's like a huge fucking problem.
joe rogan
Of course.
They're doing that with everybody.
I guarantee you, every fucking human being that is out there on Facebook and Instagram, someone's turned you into a porno film.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm just...
joe rogan
It's crazy.
bridget phetasy
It scares me.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
I mean, that was a big problem with celebrities, right?
They were taking celebrities and face swapping them and turning them into porn stars.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, and there's no...
I mean, there was like a whole thing in Beverly Hills about all these...
These teenagers were doing it to each other as like, you know, they were all just being mean teens and...
joe rogan
It's crazy.
bridget phetasy
I don't know how you even...
And there aren't laws against it, which there should be, but I don't even know how you litigate it.
joe rogan
Well, they would have to get ahead of it.
bridget phetasy
And they can't.
joe rogan
It's too late.
bridget phetasy
No, they can't.
joe rogan
All the technology's out there.
And then there's also not enough people that understand it that are in the government.
bridget phetasy
And it's like whack-a-mole.
You get rid of one and it pops up 10 other places.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And how are you going to get rid of the ones that are in other countries?
You're not going to.
bridget phetasy
No, it's not.
joe rogan
You just use a fucking VPN, log into that other country, download it.
bridget phetasy
No, it's bad.
joe rogan
It's wild.
bridget phetasy
No, it's wild.
joe rogan
And it's only going to get wilder.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
This is like...
I mean, Elon talks about this all the time.
Like how it's just the dawn of this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius.
bridget phetasy
Did you see this video yesterday with Jordan?
joe rogan
Which one?
bridget phetasy
Where he was talking about what happened to his kid and how...
joe rogan
You mean Elon?
bridget phetasy
Elon, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I did see that.
bridget phetasy
It was emotional.
joe rogan
It's horrible.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I think a lot of people have become kind of, for lack of a better word, red-pilled by that kind of stuff.
joe rogan
And they should be.
The new California thing.
Explain to people what it is.
It's so nuts.
You hear it and you go, there's no way they did this.
There's no way they took away power from the parents.
There's no way they don't inform the parents.
bridget phetasy
I mean, that had kind of been going on, but now they've just put it into law that you essentially don't have to, you know, the people who would fight against it would say, oh, they're outing these kids to their parents.
But basically, a kid can go in and call themselves Jack if they're Jill.
At home and the school doesn't have to tell the parents that they're identifying as a boy, that they're doing, that they're dressing, that they're being called by a completely different name.
There's no requirement.
It's just so crazy to me and I'm sure Scott Wiener's behind this because he's behind every creepy ass bill in that state.
It's crazy to me that you are telling adults to keep secrets About the kids from the parents, that's generally something that's a huge red flag.
joe rogan
It's a huge red flag.
And you also have activists who are teachers.
That's a fact.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a fact.
A lot of the teachers are teachers specifically because they want to be able to influence young kids.
That's a fact.
Some of them are really good teachers and they have this idea that I'm going to help these kids and influence these kids in a positive way.
And some of them are fucking crazy people that are locked into an ideology and they want to convert these kids into that ideology.
When you have five years old and six year old kids, you shouldn't have fucking pride flags in the school.
That's ridiculous.
If you have this big pride display in the school and everyone's wearing rainbows, you are incentivizing kids to think that going in one direction or the other is better.
You're pushing them.
You're influencing them in a weird way.
And you might be a fucking crazy person.
bridget phetasy
Well, it's also like Helen Joyce said.
She had this brilliant clip.
She was talking about how there's no way out.
If you're a parent who's supported this, like every time you hear about somebody who's advocating for this, legislating it, legislating kids being able to get puberty blockers or whatever, it's somebody who has a kid of their own.
And she was saying...
Such a brilliant clip.
She was basically saying they're doubling down because it's that or admit that they've done a horrific thing to their child.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, that's what it is.
It's the same thing with people that got COVID and got vaccine injured and didn't want to tell people.
bridget phetasy
Did that happen a lot?
joe rogan
A lot, yeah.
Oh, I know people that got vaccine injured.
Look, Chris Cuomo.
Chris Cuomo got vaccine injured and didn't talk about it until CNN fired him.
Guess what?
I'm one of you.
bridget phetasy
It's like Pfizer's not paying for my checks anymore.
joe rogan
Yeah, the whole thing is just, again, a normal pattern of human behavior and thinking.
And this whole queer, trans, 2A, B, I, T plus thing, it's all attached to an ideology.
And the crazy thing for a lot of gay people is they are looking at this trans thing.
A lot of gay people that I talk to, they think it's homophobic.
They think a lot of these guys who think that they're girls will eventually just be gay men.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that a lot of them go through it during puberty.
And when you are telling them that they really are going to live their authentic self and you're saying things like this.
bridget phetasy
Pray the gay way.
joe rogan
It is a very similar thing.
bridget phetasy
It's the same thing.
joe rogan
That is the same thing, right?
bridget phetasy
It's conversion therapy.
joe rogan
Right.
bridget phetasy
I mean, I did a whole piece, How Pride Blast the Public, and I interviewed Douglas Murray, all these brilliant...
I wish I could have just posted every interview I did with all these individuals because they're all so brilliant, but these guys and women have all been sounding the alarm, and lesbians are really getting erased.
You go on a lesbian app and it's like...
I joked on Dumpster Fire in 2019 that we're on our way to suck my dick bigot, and now we've been there for years.
joe rogan
It's a lot of men who identify as being a woman who say they're a lesbian, which is crazy.
bridget phetasy
But my lesbian friends are like, they're not even identifying.
They're just straight-up men on the lesbian app saying, like, I'm a lesbian.
Yeah, they're not even trying to look like a woman.
joe rogan
And you go on a date with them, and they just have lipstick on.
unidentified
Hi.
joe rogan
Like, what?
I like girls.
bridget phetasy
I'm a girl.
joe rogan
What are you trying to say, you fucking bigot?
I'll fuck you in your ass.
Like, wait.
What are you saying?
bridget phetasy
It's not good.
joe rogan
It's so nuts.
And it's also like some of these people who identify as women, they think that because they're a woman, it's okay to punch other women.
And I've seen a lot of that.
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I've seen a lot of that.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Like trans women getting in fist fights with biological women.
Like, what is going on here?
This is so crazy.
bridget phetasy
I think it's lost a lot of support, though.
Don't you think?
Do you feel like it has or no?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's lost a giant chunk, but there's still a lot of really confused people that don't know what's going on.
They read mainstream newspapers and rarely.
They work in a bubble.
Generally, it's like a liberal bubble.
They work in a bubble that's also influenced by DEI. It's also influenced by the culture of the workforce in general.
And then these people, they don't hear everything.
They don't get all the data.
They don't have time to research these things.
So it takes them a lot longer to catch on.
A lot of this is mentally ill people that are trying to infiltrate into women's spaces.
That's a lot of it.
So you have people that have legitimate gender dysphoria that really want to be identifying as a woman.
And then you have creeps.
And to not identify the creeps and to pretend the creeps don't exist, you're not fucking helping anybody.
bridget phetasy
By the way, you should be protecting these women in prisons.
It's like rape shelters and women's shelters.
You just have these guys who are like...
To think that someone who's a predator and has committed crimes wouldn't try and manipulate the system.
It's like, I don't understand that willful knife.
joe rogan
After we get off the air, I'll tell you my bit about it.
Because it's so stupid.
The whole thing is so nuts.
It's just so nuts that it's so pervasive that it's actually made its way into prisons.
What made its way into, remember the Supreme Court lady, when they asked her?
Ketanji Brown Jackson?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
bridget phetasy
Oh yeah, and couldn't answer what a woman is?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, but all these people should be on record.
The problem that we're having is that people need to push anyone who's saying, oh, this is just gender-affirming care.
So what exactly is that?
I want you on record explaining what that is.
So you're okay with giving kids puberty blockers so that they may not be able to have children or orgasms or X amount of things.
I've talked to a lot of people in the past however many years that I've done my podcast and the ones that sat with me the most and the most upsetting are all the kid detransitioners I've had on the podcast.
Those interviews are so hard and upsetting and it is...
Fucking criminal that there's even more than like 10 and they're churning them out.
joe rogan
Yeah, and there's the number of gender affirmation care clinics that exist in this country.
bridget phetasy
But by the way, Europe is like pushing back against it and we're not.
And a lot of it is because Europe does have the, you know, like universal...
Socialized medicine.
unidentified
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
So they actually have to follow science because otherwise they're all paying for it.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
And here it's just like a...
joe rogan
We're captured.
bridget phetasy
...money grab like to start.
joe rogan
Well, you, and not just that, but what you alluded to earlier, that you have to take all those people that had done this, now they're in trouble.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, now people can get sued, the lawsuits can pile up.
bridget phetasy
I hope they get sued!
joe rogan
Well, that's the only, literally, in this country that feeds off of money, it's the only way that's going to stop it.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Listen, you have to recognize, folks, that this is a country that did lobotomies.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Until, what, 1965 or something like that?
Something crazy like that?
bridget phetasy
I don't know.
joe rogan
It might have been like 68. I think it was 1968. Google, Jamie, when did they end lobotomies?
They did who knows how many thousands of lobotomies.
bridget phetasy
Well, that's like all the women who got put in mental wards for hysteria.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
bridget phetasy
67. 67. Yeah, that's not that long ago.
joe rogan
That's not that long ago.
bridget phetasy
No.
No.
joe rogan
So it had to end with the death of the person it was performed on.
That was it.
They're like, enough.
Don't scramble brains.
Like, listen, we bucked up one person.
We made a few really cool people.
Walter Jackson Freeman II. What portal of hell does that guy find himself in today?
When did he die?
He died in 72?
bridget phetasy
How did he die?
joe rogan
So it was his idea.
So he died shortly after it was made illegal.
He fucking missed it.
He missed prosecution.
The idea that he performed 3,500 lobotomies.
He scrambled the brains of 3,500 people and 490 of them died as a result of the treatment.
bridget phetasy
Do they still do electroshock therapy?
joe rogan
Yep.
Yep.
490 people died and the rest of them just got turned into vegetables.
So 310 just got turned into fucking squash.
Oh my god, so crazy.
How many people were lobotomized in the 50s?
Almost 20,000!
Oh my god, performing in the United States and proportionally more in the United Kingdom.
A large number of patients were gay men.
Oh my god, they scrambled their brain to get the gay out of there.
bridget phetasy
That's worse than pray the gay away.
joe rogan
Yeah, scramble the gay away.
Jesus Christ.
bridget phetasy
Scalpel the gay away.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Yikes!
bridget phetasy
Oh, man.
jamie vernon
Oh, and you stayed awake during it?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
bridget phetasy
No!
What was that movie, Pie?
Where he gives himself a lobotomy or whatever at the...
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
bridget phetasy
Spoiler alert.
Did you ever see that Pie?
joe rogan
No, I didn't.
bridget phetasy
That movie?
joe rogan
He gave himself a...
bridget phetasy
I feel like at the end of that movie, I don't want to spoil it.
I might have just spoiled it.
joe rogan
I'm thinking of some guy that invented something insane somewhere in the UK and eventually he was tried for being gay.
God, I wish I could remember what it was.
It's like on the tip, in the back of my brain, I'm like, that guy, remember that guy, remember that story?
Some guy that's like incredible...
jamie vernon
Alan Turing?
joe rogan
That's it.
unidentified
Alan Turing.
joe rogan
That's it.
bridget phetasy
That's the robot thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
Has Lex passed that yet?
joe rogan
No, Lex is a robot.
Pull that up.
Pull that up like what happened to him.
Okay, so here it is.
There were a number of high-profile arrests and trials, including the act of scientist, mathematician, and wartime codebreaker Alan Turing, convicted in 1952 of gross indecency.
He accepted treatment with female hormones, chemical castration, as an alternative to prison.
Turing committed suicide in 54. What?
Oh my god.
How crazy.
Again, not that long ago.
bridget phetasy
Not that long ago.
joe rogan
Not that long ago.
And that sounds today insane.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
And guess what, you fucks.
That's what it's gonna sound like 50 years from now when people start talking about what you did to kids.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, no.
And they're out growing up.
unidentified
This is crazy.
joe rogan
Yep.
Homosexuality remained illegal until 1967 in England and Wales, and until 1980 in Scotland!
Holy shit, Scotland!
1866, marriage was defined as between a man and a woman, preventing future same-sex marriages.
So they put a law in the books in 1866, and Scotland, over a hundred years later...
bridget phetasy
What about here, though?
When did it become...
joe rogan
That's a good question.
Well, I remember in 2013...
unidentified
In the United States...
joe rogan
2013, Democrats were saying that it should be between a man and a woman.
That's what marriage is.
bridget phetasy
Marriage, but it was illegal in the States, wasn't it?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
But imagine that.
Imagine Democrats saying that marriage should be between a man and a woman.
unidentified
2003?
jamie vernon
Yeah, that's...
joe rogan
Whoa.
jamie vernon
I guess.
joe rogan
Wow.
bridget phetasy
Okay, we were pretty late.
joe rogan
We were way behind Scotland.
Sorry, Scotland.
Sorry for giving you a hard time.
You guys were so far ahead of us.
unidentified
I was feeling like we were pretty behind Scotland on this.
joe rogan
I didn't think we were that behind!
unidentified
2003, I was on Fear Factor.
joe rogan
Okay, 2003, gay rights proponents had another bit of happy news.
The U.S. Supreme Court in Lawrence v.
Texas struck down the state's anti-sodomy law.
Oh, okay.
So it wasn't, like, illegal to be gay?
It was illegal to do gay stuff.
bridget phetasy
I mean, same thing.
No, it's not.
I mean, isn't it?
joe rogan
You have to do the Ben Shapiro method.
You can be gay.
bridget phetasy
Punch the butt off?
joe rogan
You just don't do it.
Oh, my God.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, but so it was never illegal to be gay in the United States?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Of course it was.
It had to have been absolutely illegal.
But no, just joking aside, sodomy laws, that makes it being gay illegal.
bridget phetasy
Aren't there still some on the books?
There's still weird sodomy profanity laws that are on the books.
Probably some weird...
joe rogan
Nah, it wouldn't be Massachusetts.
bridget phetasy
No, they have weird stuff on the books.
Really?
I remember reading about this.
I don't know if they still have it, but the reason you couldn't have sororities in certain places is because...
joe rogan
To get lesbian?
bridget phetasy
No, it was considered a coven.
Like too many women living in a house.
joe rogan
A bunch of witches.
They're smart.
They probably want to track their menstrual cycles.
These fucking dirty witches.
bridget phetasy
So this podcast I was listening to, she was saying that, I've never known this, I've always wondered, but I guess she's some neuroscientist woman, and I can't remember her name right now.
She was saying that it's because men would have to impregnate as many people as they could because if they went out and hunted, sometimes they wouldn't even come back.
They'd go find another similar tribe and just stay with them.
joe rogan
Jesus.
bridget phetasy
And so they had to, in order to keep up the population, they had to make sure that they could impregnate as many women at the same time.
And that's why women's cycles sync up.
unidentified
Hmm.
bridget phetasy
I always thought it was just like people being competitive like one woman was like if I'm gonna bleed you're all gonna fucking bleed.
joe rogan
It's all interesting theories because you know so many of the things that people did back in the day were based on this fact that human beings didn't live very long.
bridget phetasy
Right.
joe rogan
And that infant mortality was really high.
You know like they had a lot of fertility rituals that they do back then.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, yeah.
I think my name is the Irish goddess of fertility, which explains how I got pregnant in 43. You want a fun law for Texas?
joe rogan
Yes.
jamie vernon
Prohibited?
Possession of more than six dildos is prohibited.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're greedy.
jamie vernon
It's the obscene device law.
joe rogan
You don't even have six holes, you greedy fuck.
Obscene device laws declares it a crime to possess six or more obscene devices or identical or similar obscene articles.
So you can have like six buttfuck magazines.
bridget phetasy
But I think you can still get married as cousins in certain states, too.
joe rogan
Like 26 states.
Look at this.
These infernal Devices include dildos.
So in Texas, you can legally own more guns.
Wait, what site is this?
jamie vernon
This is an article on Mental Floss, and it's like top 10 weird sex laws that are still in place.
joe rogan
Let me finish the sentence.
So in Texas, you can legally own more guns and display them in public than you can sex toys, as some dildo-wielding campaigners have pointed out.
bridget phetasy
I don't want to know what that dildo-wielding...
joe rogan
You can't get married in Nebraska if your partner is a sexually transmitted disease.
What's that from?
You get the herps, that's a wrap.
jamie vernon
You can't cohabitate in North Carolina.
joe rogan
Hold on.
With a partner if the couple is unmarried.
What?
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's illegal to live with a partner if the couple's unmarried.
So you can't live in North Carolina with a boyfriend or a girlfriend?
For real?
jamie vernon
You can't have sex with them in six states.
joe rogan
Six.
Which states?
jamie vernon
Utah.
joe rogan
Idaho, Illinois, Massachusetts, Mississippi, and South Carolina.
Hilarious.
bridget phetasy
In South Carolina, a false promise of marriage can land you in jail.
This is how I hear this.
joe rogan
Still in fornication laws that basically decree all forms of non-marital sex illegal.
But these laws are rarely enforced.
I love to fucking get rid of them.
Why do you got laws on whether or not people can jerk each other off?
bridget phetasy
Don't flaunt your booby pillows in Kern County, California.
joe rogan
Ooh, what's up in Kern County?
jamie vernon
That's indecent.
joe rogan
Oh, booby pillows.
jamie vernon
Thousand feet of a highway.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
bridget phetasy
Flashing your titties on the side of the road.
jamie vernon
Like, I think literal, like, tit pillow.
Like a boob pillow.
Like a pillow that looks like a boob.
unidentified
Like boobs.
bridget phetasy
Boob pillows?
jamie vernon
Or just boobs?
bridget phetasy
I guess they're a thing.
jamie vernon
It might have been a thing at some point.
joe rogan
Public articles.
unidentified
I think they're boobs.
joe rogan
Hold on.
Public sale of articles depicting female breasts.
No, it is a boob pillow.
bridget phetasy
Oh, boob pillows.
Sale of stuffed objects known as boobie pillows.
joe rogan
Stuffed objects known as boobie pillows.
jamie vernon
I've seen booty pillows.
joe rogan
So those are illegal.
So the problem is passerbys.
bridget phetasy
Can't talk about polygamy in Mississippi.
joe rogan
You can't sell them by the side of the road.
That's what the law is.
bridget phetasy
What the fuck were boobie pillows for?
joe rogan
I've never heard of them until 13 seconds ago.
bridget phetasy
Is it just a...
joe rogan
I don't know.
I mean, I guess it's just stupid.
It's just, ooh, got some tits.
Like guys who have rubber nuts hanging from their fucking trail hitch?
jamie vernon
It's also just north of LA, apparently.
joe rogan
Is it legal to have rubber nuts hanging from your trail hitch?
Is that legal in Texas?
Let's find out.
That don't even count as a dildo.
That's just your sack of room.
bridget phetasy
Are you allowed to have those big things in Texas on the side of your wheels that, like, come out?
Have you seen these?
joe rogan
Oh, I don't know if you're allowed to.
bridget phetasy
They're everywhere!
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
I found out about those.
Those are crazy.
Paul Wall has those on his Cadillac.
bridget phetasy
I saw a car with them, I'm like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Yeah, that doesn't seem like it's aerodynamic.
It's not good for your neighbors either.
bridget phetasy
I saw them on a truck.
joe rogan
Well, you definitely could scratch someone next to you.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, or pop their tire.
joe rogan
100%.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, that seems like some Texas shit.
It's ridiculous.
I've been here now...
Have we talked since I've been here?
I've been here since almost a year, like a little over a year.
joe rogan
I don't think you've been on the podcast in the last year.
bridget phetasy
Oh.
joe rogan
It's been since you moved here.
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I think you were a California dwelling back then.
Planning your escape.
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah.
I love it.
joe rogan
If I remember correctly.
bridget phetasy
I love it.
joe rogan
It's great out here.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I love it.
unidentified
It's better.
bridget phetasy
But I also love all the friends I have and the friends that are here and everybody's coming here and making friends out in the burbs.
joe rogan
People are moving out, though.
They said that in 2023, more people for the first time left Austin than moved here.
bridget phetasy
That's good.
The rents will go down and stuff.
joe rogan
They won't go down.
bridget phetasy
No, they're going down.
joe rogan
It's a doom spiral.
bridget phetasy
No, no, no.
They passed a housing thing and they're actually going down.
joe rogan
They passed a bill?
bridget phetasy
To open up for building more housing and the rents are going down in Austin.
Every time you hear about people getting...
A lot of my friends have gotten rent deductions in the past year.
joe rogan
Really?
bridget phetasy
And a lot of people are leaving.
I had two people in my little basic bitch suburb.
They were like in the Facebook community, which I love.
I love it.
It's like the drama.
I love just watching it.
They were like, we're getting the fuck out of here.
I'm going back to California.
And I was like, where are you going?
They're like, it's too hot.
And they're like, Sacramento.
I'm like, Sacramento?
I thought it'd be like the beach or something.
But how different is Sacramento from California?
joe rogan
It's pretty hot, but it's a dry heat.
It's a different kind of heat.
bridget phetasy
No, it is.
And people, I don't know, a lot of Californians came here and are leaving.
joe rogan
Just because the heat?
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hilarious.
bridget phetasy
I know.
joe rogan
Pussies.
bridget phetasy
I know.
joe rogan
It's nothing.
It's really not that bad.
bridget phetasy
My husband loves it.
We're out there.
We became really good friends with the side surfs.
The people that make the cakes.
Yeah, the cake people.
And they're like our good homies and we celebrate.
We like our living such a...
It's such a weirdly American life.
We go to the...
We go have barbecues and our kids play.
I'm not looking over my shoulder for crazy people every second.
joe rogan
There's a reason why people move to the suburbs.
bridget phetasy
No, the suburbs are great.
When you have kids...
joe rogan
Especially if you want quiet.
bridget phetasy
Oh, they're so quiet out there.
joe rogan
That's what you want.
You're better off with a little bit of quiet.
bridget phetasy
And you can see the stars.
My daughter is just obsessed with space.
She's like, is that sad?
She knows all the planets.
She's just like...
She's thriving, which is all I can ask for as a parent.
joe rogan
Eventually, I want to live about an hour outside of Austin.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, me too.
But I can't.
joe rogan
One hour out and then drive in for shows and that's it.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I can't.
I can't yet.
I mean, this was...
We got...
Because my husband was like, let's go further.
And I was like, that will be prohibitive to everything I want to do.
And so we had to kind of split the difference.
He would be further out.
joe rogan
There's plenty of good spots to live out here, though.
It's good.
You know, you can live a half hour outside and still be cool.
Like, where Red Band lives, it's real quiet.
bridget phetasy
I'm out by them.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's great.
It's beautiful out there, too.
And there's lots of great restaurants.
It's a nice place to live.
It's also, like, a really amazing place to do comedy now.
bridget phetasy
Oh, the scene is so...
joe rogan
It's the first time in our lifetime where a scene has emerged.
bridget phetasy
I wonder why.
So weird.
joe rogan
Crazy.
bridget phetasy
Who's behind that?
No, it is actually doing it and being around all the young, hungry...
I've fallen in love with it in a way that I did when I first started it.
It's just seeing how...
And it's also just so diverse, actually ideologically diverse.
Austin is a weird place.
You just don't, with all of the, like, your audiences, they're all tourists, and then the local audiences, you never really know.
It's not like when I was in L.A., I kind of knew what I was dealing with, or if you were outside of, you know, in Valencia, you knew also what you were dealing with.
Here, you're like, it's a smatter.
It's truly like a purple kind of town.
joe rogan
It's an interesting place.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, it's exciting.
joe rogan
It's just way better than California where we were living.
We're living also in a place that was captured by the entertainment industry and that you realize like that has a toxic radioactive glow that affects everything it touches.
bridget phetasy
It does.
joe rogan
Whether you think you're in the music business or you think you're in the entertainment business.
I'm not a performer.
I'm not trying to get famous.
Everyone's affected by what you're trying to accomplish.
All the people on the outside that work in other supportive industries, like that place is defined by the main goal of people that move there is to somehow or another make it.
unidentified
Right, right.
bridget phetasy
Here it feels very art devoted.
You know, it has that Austin kind of like keep it weird and the people seem very...
That's the other thing I've noticed.
Everyone's very supportive.
It's not so like cutthroat and it felt, I don't know, it doesn't feel...
joe rogan
Well, comedy's like that now.
You know, comedy's like, it's not what it used to be.
It used to be very cutthroat.
But we realized somewhere along the line that we became, we're assets.
We're not like competitors.
And the competitors are good.
The people that are rising up, they give you inspiration to do better.
It's all good for you.
bridget phetasy
But there's room.
That's the thing that feels like you go to all these different shows.
You know Homeless Pimp?
He's doing a whole documentary on the scene.
It's really cool.
He's going out to open mics with young people who moved here, people who have been in 20 years who are moving here.
It's really cool.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, a lot of people that weren't getting the attention that they deserve somewhere else came here and now they're thriving.
Like Brian Holtzman.
Perfect example.
Brian Holtzman was just not getting the love he deserved and now he's got sold out shows.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
And people come to see him because he's crazy.
They want to see.
And there's a lot of it.
Tyler Fisher is another one.
These guys weren't getting any attention where they were and they're really good.
You know, and there's more of those.
There's a lot more out there.
Metzger.
Metzger's another one.
bridget phetasy
Metzger.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
That's why I'm like, we need Landau here.
joe rogan
Metzger moved here.
bridget phetasy
Oh, yes?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's here now.
bridget phetasy
No, he told me when I saw him, we went out to dinner when they were in town, and he said that they were thinking about it.
joe rogan
He's here now.
bridget phetasy
Oh, nice.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm so happy.
bridget phetasy
Kim's here now, too.
joe rogan
Nice.
Yeah.
She just did a show, Kill Tony, last night.
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We announced it.
joe rogan
She's the newest Austin resident.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Kim has a real chance.
She has a real chance.
Kim went up in front of me and she's from Orlando and I was doing a gig in Orlando and she's going to be there visiting her family.
She asked to do a set.
I'm like, yeah, for sure.
I sat and watched.
She fucking murdered.
I mean murdered.
I would have thought she was going to be way further ahead in her career.
I think it was like eight years ago, like eight years later.
But sometimes people, they're not quite focused the right way.
Nothing kind of catches.
And she moved to New York for a while.
But now she's out here.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's got a real chance.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
I love her.
We were just in the green room together.
joe rogan
She's very funny.
bridget phetasy
Dying laughing.
joe rogan
Very funny.
bridget phetasy
Yep.
I'm excited.
It's just like it feels...
When I first moved to L.A. and was in the scene and it was...
I had Troy Conrad on my podcast and we were talking about when we were like when...
It was like Tuesday nights and Roast Battle was starting and Kill Tony was starting and you were back and it was like this electric time at the Comedy Store and he was saying, you know, you were aware like this is special.
You're capturing something special.
And I feel that way about now, too.
There's just something special, you know, happening in Austin with comedy and scene.
It feels...
That was the thing about LA. I'm like, I feel like I'm driving around a city on hospice.
It just feels like a city that's not doing well.
And here, it's vibrant, and there's growth, and there's all kinds of different scenes, and there's tech, and there's so much live music.
It feels very vibrant and alive.
joe rogan
Well, a lot of it is because people were just fed up with California and they moved out here and they all came together.
And it's all these similarly minded people that wanted to be free to do the fun thing and then really also extra appreciated it now that it was taken away from them for a while.
And then now they have the best place to do it ever.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, and it feels very...
It's probably more libertarian than anything else.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's more libertarian.
There's very few conservatives in comedy.
And even the liberals, they're not...
If you want to be good, you can't be full leftist.
You can't do it.
You're handcuffing yourself.
It's like running with weights on.
What are you doing?
What are you trying to do?
You can talk about stuff that you believe in on podcasts, but you're doing a specific art form.
Stand-up comedy is a very specific art form.
And the goal is to make people laugh.
They're there for comedy.
It's not stand-up proselytizing.
It's not stand-up virtue-clapter.
bridget phetasy
I did a joke about Andrew Tate once and I got clapped her and I was like, I'm never doing that joke again.
That joke's done.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's funny.
bridget phetasy
I don't ever want clapped her.
joe rogan
Oh God, some people love it.
They just lean towards it and their punchlines are spaced out for clapped her.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, but that's like you're evangelizing.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're just not good.
That's all it is.
They're just not good at comedy.
bridget phetasy
I don't want to evangelize.
joe rogan
But they're only evangelizing because they're not good at comedy, right?
They're not evangelizing because they have the really unique perspective that people listen to, like Bill Hicks or something.
You go, wow.
Oh my God, I never thought about it that way.
No, it's clunky, clunky.
Dog shit idea from a lazy person that's not good at comedy.
And the reason why you suck at this whole virtue signaling thing is the same reason why you suck at comedy.
Like you don't have unique thoughts.
You haven't examined your mind enough.
You haven't really tried to figure out what's actually funny versus what you want the audience to think of you, which is a lot of what people are doing.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, my good faith interpretation, I guess, would be that they are believers.
Like, they're actually believers in their ideology or whatever, and they don't really realize they're proselytizing.
They think that they're making jokes about...
joe rogan
Sort of.
bridget phetasy
Informative...
joe rogan
Right, but you have to always run that through this filter.
And the filter is, if you're not good at comedy, and you don't have a career in comedy, and you're struggling in comedy, trying to get better at comedy, you are constantly trying to get positive reactions from the audience.
And if you can't get positive reactions through humor, you will get it through saying something that you think everybody believes in.
bridget phetasy
Right, right, I see.
joe rogan
So it's a trick.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's just a shitty trick.
bridget phetasy
It's like a shortcut.
joe rogan
It's a shitty trick that works.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's like wearing lipstick and shit in the women's room.
It's a shitty trick that works.
It doesn't mean that everybody doesn't know what the fuck is going on, you know?
bridget phetasy
So there's also kind of a just goofy alt scene that I love, and there's Ryer Cameraman.
I think she works at Mothership, but I've seen her at Creek in the Cave.
She has a Thursday night, and she does this bit.
I am obsessed with it about how she's like a deer.
joe rogan
Don't give away the bit.
bridget phetasy
I'm not going to give it away.
No one could do this bit.
It's only her, but she's so original, so adorable.
We must protect her at all costs.
Every time she gets up, and the audience never knows what...
They just don't know what to do all the time with her.
I'll be in the back just dying laughing and the audience is like, what is happening right now?
But she is so special.
She's so special.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
Yeah, there's a lot of different kind of comedy.
That's what I love.
It's a real meritocracy.
And one of the things that Adam, when Adam came over from the Comedy Store, he was dealing with a lot of pressure.
People were saying, why don't you have X amount of blank on the lineup?
X amount of women, X amount of gay people, X amount of trans.
People were giving him a hard time about everything.
And he was worried that he was going to get in trouble.
People were going to attack him and write articles about him.
And, you know, when he came here, specifically, I said, dude, everybody's welcome, but they have to be funny.
It's really that simple.
It's a complete meritocracy.
We're not going to say, let's get more women.
No, we're going to give all the women that want a chance to go on open mic nights.
Everybody has a chance.
You go up, if you get better, you get asked to do showcase shows.
There's a real, genuine system.
And having a genuine talent coordinator like Adam, who really watches.
He was there last night watching sets.
He watches people progress.
He watches the door people progress.
He watches all the new people come in from out of town.
bridget phetasy
He gives you great feedback when you get off.
He'll be like, I love that premise.
It's so helpful.
This is someone who watches this shit all day long.
joe rogan
Someone who's best friends at Norm MacDonald.
He really understands comedy.
bridget phetasy
And also, he's hilarious when I sit back there with him.
He'll make these comments that are funnier than anything that people are saying on stage.
joe rogan
Very funny.
He can hang.
But the point is, he really cares about his job.
And his job is free of all the mandates.
All he has to do is find funny people.
And look at what happens when you do that.
The lineup is so diverse.
If you look at all the different people on showcase nights, you're going to see every type of...
Gay, straight, black, white, Asian, tall, short, fat, skinny, everything.
Whatever the fuck from different parts of the world, all you have to do is be good at this thing we're all trying to do.
We don't care.
You're one of the family, no matter what you are, as long as you can do this thing we're doing.
And if you can't do this thing we're doing, either figure it out, or I don't know what to tell you.
bridget phetasy
And there's so much opportunity.
There are so many shows now.
It is crazy.
It's awesome.
Yeah, it's amazing.
There's Black Rabbit and that room is amazing.
joe rogan
There's five rooms on one street.
It's nuts.
It's beautiful.
And people can walk and do set to set.
And guys are doing four or five sets a night.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, it's like New York.
joe rogan
It is.
It is.
It's a unique thing, and it's only just begun.
I mean, it's only existed for a couple years.
You have to realize there was a small scene here.
There was a few good comics that were here, and they just didn't have the same push.
And they also didn't have the same group of killers.
They didn't have Shane Gillis move into town.
unidentified
Is he here now?
bridget phetasy
Yeah, he lives here too.
joe rogan
Tim Dillon's got a place here.
It's like Tony's here.
Brian Simpson's here.
Ron White is here.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like there's so...
Tom Segura's here.
bridget phetasy
Christina.
joe rogan
Christina P's here.
There's so many fucking people.
I'm trying to talk Burton to move in here.
bridget phetasy
We're trying to lure Whitney to come here.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Whitney's a tough cookie to crack.
bridget phetasy
She did do a joke the other day on Instagram, though, about how she's like, this is why I'm leaving.
And it was like a purple Tesla.
unidentified
Yeah, I saw that.
bridget phetasy
I was like, come!
joe rogan
Other than how straight men left.
Yeah.
She'll come eventually.
We've got more and more that are coming, and there's plenty room for everybody.
There's a lot of sets.
We do two shows a night in each room.
It's a lot of fun.
bridget phetasy
It's so much fun.
And the staff at that place is amazing.
I'm obsessed with Carrie.
She is a woman so close to my heart, I would go to war for her.
All the whole staff is so, like, they seem so, they're, like, happy to be there.
They're so lovely.
They're so cool.
I don't know.
It's like a nice, it's a good vibe.
It's not...
joe rogan
Yeah, we stole the heart of the Comedy Store.
You did.
We stole all the best people.
We didn't steal them, though.
They were all unemployed.
It was really perfect timing.
It wasn't like we poached them from the comedy store when the comedy store needed them.
bridget phetasy
No, they just needed a job.
joe rogan
They needed a job, and the comedy store wasn't going to be open for another year and a half.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those people all came over here when there was nothing going on, and they were all, now they're employed.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the way we did it, it was almost like the universe wanted it to happen.
The universe wanted all these little things to fall into place, to motivate people to get the fuck out of there.
All these things that fall into place where all of a sudden you're in this town, and There's buildings that are available.
There's like all these buildings available.
bridget phetasy
I know, but I remember so vividly doing your podcast in 2020. I think it was May of 2020 because it was like in the height of another crazy cycle like right now.
And you were like, I have a vision.
You had a vision as much as like, oh, it all kind of lined up.
And like you said on that podcast, I have a vision.
You just knew.
joe rogan
Yeah, I shouldn't have visions like that.
I shouldn't even believe in that.
bridget phetasy
Not like a vision like, I saw God.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
I mean, I'm saying like, even like, yeah, I had an idea.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
I had an idea.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
I mean, is that...
joe rogan
But I probably should have just done it and not told everybody.
Tell everybody I had a vision.
I wonder how much of that, because people believe in that, right?
They believe in vision boards and manifesting things.
bridget phetasy
This was this podcast I was listening to.
She's all about this, like it's the mirror neurons and you put it into the world.
But also I think you have to get people excited about an idea.
So whether it's an idea or a vision or whatever you want to call it, It helps to have people kind of excited, but I think you said that and then just went and did it.
I don't think you were on every podcast talking about your vision.
joe rogan
No, but here's the other thing I'm saying.
The number one thing that I've been most successful at, I had zero vision for.
That's this.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Zero vision.
When people are like, did you anticipate it was ever going to be the way it is?
Like, no.
bridget phetasy
No.
joe rogan
No.
Never thought about it.
Never dreamed.
Never tried.
Wasn't.
Just kept doing it.
That's it.
bridget phetasy
But some of it, too, is just, like, consistency.
And right place, right time.
joe rogan
There's a lot of those things.
That's why, like, I should believe in fate.
I really should.
bridget phetasy
And you don't.
joe rogan
I don't.
bridget phetasy
What do you believe in?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I'm not sure I'm not sure if it's there's like I don't know what it is I don't I don't think it's as simple as fate because I don't think it's truly determined I think there's possibilities and these possibilities they open up and your energy and your thoughts Sort of synchronize with these possibilities, and that's what excites you, and it expands.
And then you follow up on your instincts, and what's the correct way to approach this, and then you put more energy and more intensity into it, and then it all accelerates.
And other people sort of join in, and you collect like-minded people that also have their thoughts and their energy, and they push towards this thing.
And when you're doing it right, good things happen.
And that's what I think it is.
And so I should think it's fate.
But I also think it's a – manipulation is not the right word.
It's a synchronization with your – whoever you really are.
Like whatever your real thoughts are.
Whatever your real intention is, what are you trying to do?
unidentified
I get that.
joe rogan
It's like this synchronization with all of it.
As much as it is like a vision of like, we're going to have the best comedy club in the world.
We didn't really think that.
bridget phetasy
No.
joe rogan
We thought we were going to just open up a club and let's hope it works.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
My goal was like, let's not go broke.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I don't want to lose any money.
That's all my goal was, right?
bridget phetasy
I believe it!
joe rogan
No, it's really stated.
We talk about it.
I'm not trying to make money.
I'm 100% trying to not lose money, and that's it.
And everything else is gravy.
And then set it up right for the comedians.
The most important thing is to...
Look, if I care about comedy, which I clearly do, let's set up the best possible environment for comedy to thrive.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it'll be great for everybody.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, I remember, like, I understand that.
I feel like so much of it is, like, getting out of your own way, too.
When I first started comedy, I would get these opportunities that I would say no to because I told myself I wasn't ready, I didn't...
Et cetera, et cetera.
And this time I'm like, I'm just saying yes, I'm going to say yes.
And not get out of here and just say yes.
Like, yes, thank you.
And Colin Quinn asked me to open for him.
And I was like, yes, thank you.
And I was terrified.
And I was like, I have such bad stage fright as it is.
Just ever since I got sober, it's something I deal with.
Because I used to be drunk all the time and I didn't know until I got sober.
joe rogan
So you get drunk on stage?
bridget phetasy
I would be drunk before I even got up, but I got sober and was like, fuck, I have stage fright.
And it's so bad.
Joe, it's so bad that I'll be like, maybe my dog will die.
You know, like, maybe there will be, like, when the planes were all getting grounded, I'm like, maybe Colin was stuck in New York.
Like, terrified.
joe rogan
So you're, like, trying to avoid the show.
bridget phetasy
And I have to just put that aside, put it all aside.
I truly just had to, like, pray, turn it over, and it's like, It's not about me.
It's about just getting out of my way.
My job is to...
joe rogan
You're an antenna.
bridget phetasy
And it's just like, these people want to have fun.
And someone sent me the clip, because my audience knew I was nervous.
I didn't announce it or anything, but I did in my little subscriber community.
And someone sent me the clip of you and Sam talking about stand-up and how you still got nervous.
You were saying, I stretch and breathe.
But Sam said, he has that tattoo, this is fun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
And I was like, I wrote it on my set list.
I'm like, it fucking saved me.
It was like two days before.
I'm like, I'm just gonna...
joe rogan
Have fun.
bridget phetasy
Have fun.
And I had so much fun.
You can see it on my face in the pictures.
I love them.
And Troy was there, and I had so much fun.
joe rogan
It makes sense to have stage fright if you used to get drunk all the time.
It also makes sense to have stage fright if you haven't done a lot of comedy.
So it was a long time before you did comedy again.
How much time did you take off?
bridget phetasy
I mean, four, three years?
Three years.
Yeah, it's a long time.
A baby.
joe rogan
It's a long time.
unidentified
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
But then I have been grinding again, just quietly, working towards more and more and more, and it's like...
It's been 10 months, you know?
So it was like, not like I just got back and was like, alright, yes!
If that was the case, I would have said no.
I have too much respect for you and Adam and all of these other comedians, every other comedian that I know.
joe rogan
To not be ready.
bridget phetasy
To know that like, okay, I can probably handle this.
joe rogan
Well, you know, even like Chris Rock, one of the all-time greats, he took years off.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then when he came back, he had to kind of find his thing.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, you got it.
I mean, I'm a different person.
joe rogan
Of course.
bridget phetasy
So I also had to write completely all-new material.
It wasn't like I could just rely on old stuff.
It doesn't even connect.
joe rogan
Right.
bridget phetasy
I've moved.
I'm a married woman.
I can't be like, back when I was giving blowjobs...
Yeah.
And it's very humbling.
It was weird, too.
I can see why people who do it, take a break, start doing something else, get a name doing something else, and then come back to comedy, it's like I'm a beginner.
I feel like a beginner.
joe rogan
Sure.
bridget phetasy
I'm not a beginner.
I know what I do wrong.
The difference is I know when I'm doing something wrong, I know what I'm doing wrong.
joe rogan
Well, we used to always see that at the comedy store.
We used to always see people like sitcom stars who would come in and they were like, I'm going to try to start doing comedy again.
And, you know, they'd get stacked in there against a bunch of assassins.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it would be rough.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like Kramer.
Yeah.
Michael Richardson.
He was doing that.
After Seinfeld, he went a little crazy.
I think that had something to do with that.
But he was at the Comedy Store and it was weird because he would go on after real comics.
And then he would be falling around on stage and it was improvised and it wasn't really...
It wasn't, you know, it's not 1978. No, no.
The world's a different place, man.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, and just having, like, that's the, again, it was just like an ego, like, having to put aside, like, okay, like, whatever.
I'll take three minutes, I'll take five minutes, I'll take, I'll drive however long, like, that beginner's mind was so necessary.
And even, like, opening for killers like Landau, just being able to, like, You know, it's a confidence thing, too.
You have to just get hit with that over and over and over again.
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to do the numbers.
You have to get back in shape again.
If you haven't ran in five years, you can't run a marathon.
You have to start doing runs around the block.
bridget phetasy
I love it.
It's been so...
Yeah, I love it.
I was like, fuck.
joe rogan
It's a fun time for comedy, too, because the world's on fire.
bridget phetasy
Yeah, well, it's great.
unidentified
There's so much crazy shit.
bridget phetasy
And that's the thing.
I did it because it's like the only time I feel sane, you know?
I mean, I feel sane a lot, but when I get on stage and I'm talking, it's like my mind is like zen.
There's just a calm, you know?
joe rogan
That's interesting.
bridget phetasy
I feel very present in that like...
conversation you're having it's just I don't know there's nothing yeah I think it's just I think I fought it for a long time like I just didn't I was like I don't know I don't have what it takes I don't have the chops I don't have the talent all this shit but it's like just get it out it's garbage It's a hard thing to do.
joe rogan
People don't like hard things.
They'll come up with reasons why they don't do hard things.
It's funny.
Francis Ngannou, who's a former UFC heavyweight champion, he was talking about people going to school because they're trying to avoid a job.
The way he said it, I was like, sometimes...
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just avoiding working.
bridget phetasy
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They're staying in school.
bridget phetasy
You're getting like your second PhD.
joe rogan
That's exactly what it is.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
unidentified
It's true.
joe rogan
And you're still doing something, but you are avoiding.
And those are the people that wind up teaching, which is even crazier because they've never really experienced the real world.
You know, they're shaping young people to prepare them for the real world.
bridget phetasy
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's going to be really interesting to see what happens if Trump gets into office, how much gets changed, how much the society shifts, because it does seem like society is shifting away from all the woke stuff in the left wing and even people that were like former lifelong Democrats like Bill Ackman and all these people that are talking about voting for Trump.
Elon, all these people that are talking about, like, this is what we have to fight against.
But then they're gonna realize, like, they're right-wing.
They're trying to track your periods.
They try to bring Jesus back into the schools.
bridget phetasy
I've learned from being very wrong on this podcast many times, and having the entire world tell me about it, that Like, she raised $100 million in a day.
Come on.
joe rogan
Right.
How much of it came from Satan?
unidentified
Actually.
bridget phetasy
You mean Hillary Clinton?
joe rogan
No, I mean Satan, Satan.
Maybe it is Hillary.
Satan, Satan.
Where's that money coming from?
bridget phetasy
Allegedly a lot of first-time donors.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Maybe people are that dumb.
Maybe they never heard her talk.
Maybe they don't care.
Maybe it's blue no matter who.
bridget phetasy
Last time we were talking, I think it was like there was going to be a red wave, and then I was like, eh, that one wasn't true.
joe rogan
It's interesting.
bridget phetasy
Because I underestimated how much the abortion thing would play into it.
joe rogan
Yeah, that plays into it a lot.
But it almost feels like that's all engineered to keep us like at each other's throats, like nothing ever got resolved.
Like there's one of the things that they were thinking when they were banning abortions was gay marriage is going to be next.
And some people have openly stated that gay marriage should be next and that that's the thing that they do want to stop next.
And I'm like, this seems fake.
It seems like if you really care about that, that seems crazy.
I think what you care about is consistently keeping people at each other's throats.
unidentified
Right.
bridget phetasy
I wrote this piece that went crazy viral.
It was trending on Twitter.
It was very unexpected about divorce, just coming from divorce.
And I was like, hey, divorce sucks.
And my point was kind of like, even as an adult with a kid, I didn't realize how much of an effect it has even later in life when you have your own kids.
Things like my siblings have had to deal with.
People, the reaction was crazy, but then the kind of counter-reaction was from the left.
They were like, and this is when they're coming after divorce laws, and they're trying to get rid of no-fault divorce, and they're trying to make it so women need to get approval to get divorced.
joe rogan
You're saying that they were lumping you?
bridget phetasy
Well, they were saying that I was, I mean, this is like the blue and on stuff where it's like, oh, you're just, they were like, how much did the evangelicals pay you to write this piece?
I'm like, yes, the evangelicals, years ago, my parents got divorced and I became my deep state plant so that I could write this piece to undermine the divorce laws.
That's exactly right.
I mean, it's like craziness, but this is...
joe rogan
But I think a lot of those people aren't even real people.
I think a lot of that is bots.
unidentified
Bots.
joe rogan
And a lot of that is, I mean, you have to really consider that.
bridget phetasy
Oh, I definitely do.
joe rogan
Which is why I think it's really foolish for people to engage in any sort of disagreements online.
I think so much of the conversation is pushed in one way or another by people that aren't even real people.
bridget phetasy
Oh, right.
Like those bot farms?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
Have you seen them with all the phones?
joe rogan
It's not just that.
bridget phetasy
It's crazy.
joe rogan
They show you that, but you don't think our government's doing that.
You're out of your fucking mind.
If you don't think that they are online posing as progressives, having these complex sites with AI-generated photos of their family, they are.
Every government does it, and the goal is to divide and conquer.
The best way to conquer is to keep us at each other's throats.
The best way to keep infringing on our rights is to have you agree with this infringement, because this infringement goes against those people that you oppose, which are the people on the other team.
And that's the dirty, dirty, dirty trick that people fall for every goddamn time.
That's what leads to the downfall of civilizations.
bridget phetasy
How do we get out of it?
joe rogan
Mushrooms.
That would be the only way.
I don't know.
Maybe aliens land.
Maybe Donald Trump takes over and everybody starts doing bong hits out of a fucking American eagle flag thing.
What's it called?
Freedom bong?
Freedom bong?
Yeah.
bridget phetasy
I'll vote for whoever stops those frickin' wind farms off the coast.
joe rogan
The wind thing's nuts.
They should have gone down the road of nuclear power plants a long fuckin' time ago.
The thing is, people are afraid of them because of Chernobyl and Three Mile Island.
bridget phetasy
And they're not like that anymore.
joe rogan
Not only are they not like that anymore, it is literally the greenest source of energy that we have.
They know how to shut them down now.
There's ways to avoid it.
There's even companies that are investing in making batteries out of the waste.
bridget phetasy
Did you see all this stuff like with Nantucket?
The beaches were all closed because one of the turbines fell and then the beach was like getting fiberglass and there's dead whales on Black Island and all up and down there.
joe rogan
I'm like, this is a- What are the dead whales from?
bridget phetasy
From the fucking wind farm.
Schellenberger covers all this.
He's been doing a whole documentary.
It's because it's fucking with all their- They're like sonar stuff, and it gives off this vibration.
And it is an ecological...
Like, these are the fucking save the whales people, and this is killing the whales.
joe rogan
So they're killing the whales with the sounds of the windmill things?
bridget phetasy
Oh, it's an ecological disaster, these things.
They should not be allowed.
They should be shut down.
I don't know how they even got through, and it's just...
joe rogan
They don't even generate that much electricity.
bridget phetasy
One percent.
I was watching all the hearings in Nantucket because they never got to vote on it either.
This is another one of those things that just like people were like, yeah, we need tax cuts.
And for our company, it's GE. And I think it was GE. And so they were like, this is one percent of it generates like one percent extra energy for us.
It's nothing.
joe rogan
There was a boat that got attacked by a whale today.
A boat that got flipped over by a whale.
An actual whale flipped over a boat.
bridget phetasy
A blue whale or an orca?
joe rogan
I don't know what kind of whale, but a big-ass whale.
A whale whale.
unidentified
Yeah, this whale.
joe rogan
What happened?
See, a whale capsized the boat off the coast of Rye, New Hampshire, Tuesday.
bridget phetasy
Damn.
joe rogan
Watch that again.
Because it's crazy.
bridget phetasy
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Whale just jumps up and smashes this boat and flips it over.
And that guy falls in the water.
And this kid's like, let me get the fuck out of here.
Like, I don't know what happened and why the whales are attacking boats.
bridget phetasy
Is that saying Yellowstone's biscuit base erupts?
joe rogan
Excuse me?
bridget phetasy
To the explore.
joe rogan
Biscuit Basin erupts.
bridget phetasy
Is Yellowstone fucking blasting?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, that's great.
That's next.
Yellowstone's gonna blow.
Super volcano.
Whales are attacking people.
Let's wrap this up.
Bridget, I love you.
You're awesome.
bridget phetasy
I love you too.
joe rogan
It's great to see you always.
I'm glad you're enjoying it here.
bridget phetasy
I love it.
Love you and thank you.
joe rogan
Tell everybody your podcast, where they can get Dumpster Fire.
bridget phetasy
Just go to Phetasy.com.
It's all there.
We just took it all.
P-H-E-T-A-S-Y dot com.
And subscribe to our YouTube, Bridget Phetasy.
That would be the best thing you can do.
joe rogan
Best thing you can do.
Alright, bye everybody.
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