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May 30, 2024 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #2158 - Harland Williams
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unidentified
The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day Oh boy, I think I've known you for 30 years You know how crazy that is?
harland williams
31. Is it really?
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
harland williams
I remember the day we met.
Really?
Baskin Robbins on Melrose.
unidentified
Really?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did we meet at Baskin Robbins?
harland williams
Baskin Robbins.
I got one of those memories like the girl from Taxi.
joe rogan
Oh, do you really?
harland williams
He got a mint chocolate chip, double scoop, and I had peanut butter and chocolate.
joe rogan
I think you're making this up.
I think you're making this up.
He's making this up.
jamie vernon
I was like, hold on, let's see how this goes.
joe rogan
Yeah, as soon as he was saying he's got a memory like the lady from Taxi, I was like...
harland williams
And I couldn't even remember her name.
joe rogan
That lady's got a crazy memory.
harland williams
She does!
joe rogan
She can tell you, like, dates in 1972 what day it was.
harland williams
Dude, I bumped into her at a sushi joint once and she reenacted the day I lost my virginity.
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
Wow.
harland williams
She remembered it.
joe rogan
How does she know?
Do you think she's an alien?
harland williams
No, it was her.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
harland williams
Yeah.
She popped my cherry.
joe rogan
She was hot back in the day.
harland williams
She drove my taxi.
unidentified
Ooh.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
She acted as your depot.
harland williams
Wait, what's her name?
Mary Lou Retina?
joe rogan
No.
harland williams
What is it?
joe rogan
Close.
harland williams
Mary Lou Iris?
joe rogan
No.
Cornea.
harland williams
Cornea.
Mary Lou Cornea.
joe rogan
What was her name?
harland williams
Retin?
jamie vernon
No, that's the gymnast.
She's the gymnast.
joe rogan
That's the gymnast.
What was her name?
jamie vernon
Is it Marlee Matlin?
harland williams
That's the deaf chick.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's the one that everybody had to pretend was really good at acting.
harland williams
But she did win an Oscar, didn't she?
jamie vernon
Mary Lou Henner.
harland williams
Oh, she did the tampon commercials.
joe rogan
Did she?
harland williams
Yeah.
And who better to do them than a tumbler?
joe rogan
They get guys to do them now.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a new world.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, there she is.
Back in the day when she was on Taxi, she was hot.
But you can't ever lie to her.
harland williams
Yeah, she knows everything.
joe rogan
I didn't say that.
Not only did you say that, you were wearing this.
harland williams
Yeah, she just knows it all.
Unbelievable.
joe rogan
That's probably a real issue in relationships.
You can never argue with her about who is right.
She remembers it.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
100%.
You've got a foggy-ass, bullshit, normal human.
How good's your memory?
My memory's not that good.
harland williams
Maybe she's an elephant.
joe rogan
I don't think their memory's that good.
harland williams
They say they are.
joe rogan
Yeah, but like shit that you would remember too.
harland williams
Right, like how often do you watch one of those nature shows and you see like elephants wandering around aimlessly and you know they're looking for their car.
Because they can't remember where they parked.
Idiots.
joe rogan
Imagine if elephants could drive.
That would be a real problem.
How big would their fucking car be?
unidentified
How big would their roads have to be?
joe rogan
If anybody else, any other animals, started developing electronics, I think we'd just kill them.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
They'd be like, what the fuck are you doing over there?
Like, we wouldn't be cool with chimps fastening their own weapons if they started making guns.
If chimps start smelting iron, like figuring out ballistics, you see chimps on the range.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're like, hey, hey, hey, only us.
harland williams
Yeah.
Well, isn't that what Planet of the Apes is all about?
joe rogan
Similar.
harland williams
They evolved to the point where...
joe rogan
Wasn't the new one, like, experiments?
Wasn't it, like, some kind of experiments?
jamie vernon
On how it's, like, kicked off?
joe rogan
Like, back in the day, it was like a time machine thing.
Like, they went, right?
Like, the really old ones?
harland williams
Yeah, the first one.
joe rogan
There was a time machine, and you go forward in time, and you realize, like, oh my god, the apes are now humans.
harland williams
Yeah, they landed so far in the future on Earth.
You know who wrote that one?
Rod Serling.
joe rogan
Oh, did he really?
harland williams
Yeah, from Twilight Zone.
joe rogan
He was the fucking man.
harland williams
He was way ahead of his time.
joe rogan
With everything.
harland williams
Genius.
joe rogan
So many good episodes.
You go back and watch the Twilight Zone, it's like, no production value, no money for special effects.
Incredible show.
harland williams
And that's what was part of their charm.
But the music, everything worked.
And if you look at a lot of modern day movies...
They were predicated on those old shows.
Like Chucky, there's an old episode with Telly Savalas.
Talkie Tina.
Hi, I'm Talkie Tina, and I'm going to kill you.
This was a doll, remember?
Fast forward to Chucky, that demented, red-headed, freckle-faced freak.
joe rogan
Look at that.
harland williams
There she is, Talkie Tina.
joe rogan
You know what my favorite one was?
To Serve Man.
harland williams
Oh yeah, it's a cookbook!
unidentified
Yeah.
harland williams
And then Juliet Childs walks out of the UFO. Hello, everybody!
We're gonna serve your children!
joe rogan
What did the aliens look like on To Serve Man?
It was very bizarre.
harland williams
Yeah, they had giant bulbous heads.
joe rogan
Yeah, there it is.
There it is.
harland williams
Yeah.
They look like Herman Munster without the hair.
joe rogan
Look at how bad this fucking makeup is.
unidentified
You can see where it's glued to his cheek.
joe rogan
You can see how everything is so shitty.
You could do better than that in a high school musical.
harland williams
Speaking of human cookbooks, I have a buddy who just had a kid, and he told me him and his wife made placenta smoothies.
And I'm sitting here going, what if you love them?
What if you love the taste of your own kid?
And one day you're with Billy at the park, and you're just looking at him, and you're like...
You know, you start licking your lips like, he sure did taste good.
And then cannibalism and you eat your own kid.
joe rogan
I don't think it's actually eating your own kid.
I think it's eating the nutrients that provide nourishment to the kid while it's in the womb.
It's not, you're not eating the kid.
The kid is separate from the placenta.
unidentified
It is?
joe rogan
Yeah, the kid is an actual...
harland williams
Oh, I thought it was covered like, you know when a gazelle drops its baby on the Kalahari and it like licks all that film off it?
Isn't that placenta?
Or is that just like a pasta sauce?
It's like carbonara?
joe rogan
I think that is placenta, right?
I mean, it probably must be.
harland williams
So isn't that what human kids have?
joe rogan
But it's not the kid itself.
It's the nutrients that the kid was consuming while they were in the womb.
I believe, obviously I'm not a doctor.
harland williams
Yeah, look at this.
joe rogan
Is this one going to drop it?
harland williams
They eat that.
joe rogan
Is she about to drop?
Boy, how vulnerable are they when they're giving birth?
unidentified
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
And half of those kids get snatched up immediately by a cat.
Some cats or wild dogs or something come run over and steal your baby and that's it.
You carry that thing around inside of you for months.
You love it more than anything in life.
They'll protect it.
Obviously they have this insane connection with that baby and then it gets snatched away by a cat.
harland williams
It literally doesn't get its first bleat out.
It lifts its head, and then bong, it's gone.
joe rogan
Well, that's one of the things that people have to be very aware about in North America.
harland williams
What?
joe rogan
Bears.
What bears are doing to deer and moose, the same thing.
If you really love deer and moose and elk and stuff like that, half of those animals, babies get eaten by bears.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
They eat like half of the babies that come out.
harland williams
Half.
joe rogan
Half.
You know, it's a good thing in a good ecosystem.
harland williams
To cull the herd.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's not even just to cull the herd.
That's what they're there for.
It's a system.
We look at it like it's this beautiful thing, because it is beautiful.
You see these animals and the wild and nature, but what it is, it's a system.
It's like a mathematical system.
You have numbers, and the amount of predators is based on the amount of prey and the amount of babies they have and the amount of babies that survive.
You know, animals that have less babies don't survive as well.
Animals that are bigger fight off the wolves better.
It's like there's a whole system.
harland williams
It's a whole system, and it trickles down right to the vegetation and the ecosystem.
You know this.
If they remove the wolves, then the elk and caribou herds expand, and they start eating all the growth on the riverbanks, causing erosion.
The rivers flatten out.
So you have to have those predators.
So I'm glad they're eating half, and if they're listening, eat three quarters.
joe rogan
If they weren't eating half, we would be overrun by deer and elk.
You'd have a situation where you have, like in New Zealand, where they have to fly over the hills and just gun them down.
harland williams
Moose in New Zealand?
joe rogan
New Zealand's a wild place.
Literally, but it's beautiful.
So beautiful.
unidentified
Elves.
joe rogan
They got there in, I guess, the 1700s or something like that?
Maybe the 1800s?
And these European settlers, these European explorers, like, this place is so beautiful, but it doesn't have any things for us to kill.
Why don't we bring in a bunch of wild animals from Europe that we like to kill?
And so they turned it into like a wild game safari park for hunting.
harland williams
Shizu.
joe rogan
Yeah, so there's all these animals like stags and all these different kinds of deer, all these animals that are not supposed to be in New Zealand.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're everywhere.
It's overwhelming.
Like if you buy elk, like if you go to a restaurant and you buy elk tenderloin, most likely that elk is coming from New Zealand.
harland williams
No.
joe rogan
Yeah.
harland williams
There's elk in New Zealand?
joe rogan
A lot of elk in New Zealand.
And they probably are allowed to consider stag elk, too.
That's a good question.
I don't know.
They're so similar.
They're such a similar animal.
They probably taste exactly the same.
Elk have a cool sound, but stags have a really cool...
Stags sound like a lion.
You ever heard a stag roar?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's really fucking cool.
harland williams
And when they mate, the male elks do that whistle.
unidentified
You know, that sounds like they're playing a piccolo.
joe rogan
A piccolo.
Listen to this.
unidentified
What a weird noise.
harland williams
Yeah.
Look at his penis going up and down.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They jizz all over themselves.
harland williams
Wow.
Wow.
joe rogan
I've seen elk do it where they just piss all over themselves while they're screaming.
They're screaming.
Elks are even cooler.
Give me an elk bugle.
Elk bugle, I think, is the coolest sound in the world.
harland williams
Oh, me?
joe rogan
Bro, if you didn't know, if you didn't know, if you were in the dark, and you were in camping, and you had an elk bugle, and you didn't know what that was, you'd think, oh my god, there's monsters out here.
harland williams
Yeah.
Yeah, there it is.
joe rogan
Couldn't you imagine that being a monster?
harland williams
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's sort of like an instrument.
joe rogan
Imagine if it's dark out, you hear that?
harland williams
You're like, fuck!
joe rogan
It's demons!
harland williams
Yeah, that's kind of haunting and scary.
joe rogan
That's the greatest animal life.
harland williams
And then they go into...
The big cats go into Fleming.
You know this?
joe rogan
Fleming?
harland williams
I ran into problems with girlfriends because of this.
It's like when the female lions or the leopards, they get ripe.
You know what I mean?
Ready to party.
joe rogan
Let's go.
harland williams
The lions and the cheetahs, they do this thing where they smell the female scent and they go...
You know, they do this thing where they curl their lip up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
harland williams
And it's like a sexual thing.
And for some reason, I don't know why, but I do that when I'm about to get into some lovemaking.
joe rogan
You do a little bit of that?
Do you, like, embody the lion?
harland williams
I don't know.
I just have the thing.
unidentified
You feel it?
harland williams
And they never stick around.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fleming response takes place when one lion of either sex sniffs or smells the urine of another.
Chemicals and hormones contained in the urine elicit the Fleming response.
Usually after smelling the urine patch on the ground or vegetation, the cat is doing the smelling, will lift his or her head and hold their lips back in a strong grimace.
Let me see it.
harland williams
That's just like him, look.
I gotta start dating girls that wipe, I guess.
joe rogan
Look at that face.
harland williams
That urine.
joe rogan
Imagine looking at that right before it fucking closes down on your neck.
And go, oh yeah, I'm not getting out of this.
There's fucking no escape.
There's no hip escape.
There's no jiu-jitsu move.
There's no poking in the eye.
That's a wrap.
It's a wrap.
Look at that mouth.
That is a wrap.
A wrapity wrap.
harland williams
I had a moment when I was on safari in Africa where it's the only time in my life I started shaking.
We were on a private Land Rover.
We came up on two male lions that had just made a kill.
We were literally probably...
I'd say 25 feet from them.
And one of them got up, and we're in the open Land Rover, right?
With no protection, no windows.
joe rogan
That is such bullshit.
harland williams
So we got the guy driving from our camp, and this thing, one of them got up, walked halfway to us, and just did that burning stare with its golden eyes.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
harland williams
And I was holding my hand, because it was one of the few times in my life I felt like I was in death's door.
Like, that lion could have been on me in two seconds, and it was terrifying but exhilarating at the same time.
joe rogan
How do they know that the lions won't jump into the cab and pull people out?
harland williams
They get acclimated to these kind of clunky things.
Look, believe me, I know nature's unpredictable.
joe rogan
How much trust do you have to have?
harland williams
Well, I said to our driver, he was parked in front of a stump.
I said to him, I said, dude, I know you do this every day.
Get away from the stump.
We need to have an exit strategy.
And so he goes, oh, we'll be fine.
I said, no, move from the stump.
Because nature, you don't know when nature's going to do that.
joe rogan
Did you know that it was going to be an open air thing?
harland williams
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And you were cool with that?
harland williams
Yeah, it's beautiful.
But I didn't know we were going to come up on two male lions that were in the middle of eating a wildebeest and be the only ones there and like 25 feet away, and one of them was going to shorten the distance by half.
joe rogan
Ugh.
God.
Was this before or after the lady from Game of Thrones, who was the video editor?
She was one of the video editors of Game of Thrones.
She got pulled out of a car by a lion.
harland williams
Oh, she did?
joe rogan
Yeah, she got killed.
harland williams
Well, there you go.
There's your answer.
Yeah, it can happen.
joe rogan
I think it was a different situation, though.
I don't think they were acclimated to the open-air ones, because in this one, it was cars, and she rolled her window down to reach out to take a picture, and the cat just snatched her.
harland williams
Oh, idiot.
joe rogan
It's like a toy.
I mean, you're basically rolling a piece of yarn.
If a cat sees a thing that he couldn't get, but now he can get it, their instinct is just to get it.
Even if they never would do that, if the windows were rolled down from the beginning, the moment they see you peeking out, you're basically dangling.
Oh, it's just a video of it?
harland williams
No, it's just a picture.
joe rogan
This is how it happened?
Oh God, that's so horrible, man.
Oh my god, look how big that thing is.
Imagine that pulling you out of the fucking car.
Oh my god.
harland williams
So I was in Florida once and I was doing a gig like on one side of Florida and had to cross over to the other side.
joe rogan
Whoa.
harland williams
And in between...
joe rogan
Were you walking?
harland williams
No, no, no.
Daddy, here's where it got clunky, right?
I rented a convertible, right?
Because it's Florida.
So I had time to kill, so I looked on the thing.
Halfway across, there's a lion safari where you can drive through, right?
joe rogan
And you drove through in a convertible?
harland williams
No, so I pulled up, and they said, Sir, you can't go through with a convertible, but for ten extra dollars, we'll rent you one of our little junkers.
And the junkers were painted like a zebra because it was a lion park.
So they painted them with stripes.
It was like a piece of crap that was just meant to go through the two-mile park and out.
So it's like a million degrees.
It's Florida.
It's Tuesday at one in the afternoon.
No one's there because I'm cutting across the country.
This is like a weekend place.
They put me in this zebramobile.
I'm all alone in this park.
I get right in the middle of the lion thing.
There's like 60 lions.
The car conks out.
300 degrees.
No AC because it's an old junker.
And I just got 60 lions just going, zebra?
And I'm just sitting there.
No one's coming.
Daddy's sitting there in the prize.
joe rogan
How long did you have to sit there for?
harland williams
I sat there for about 15-20 minutes until they came, and I got to crack the window because it's like a dog in a Walmart parking lot.
And I'm sitting there going, I'm a zebra!
I'm sitting there, I'm a zebra!
joe rogan
You could die of heat exposure in there.
harland williams
Or by getting mauled by a pride alliance.
Does that mean they're gay if it's a pride alliance, by the way?
joe rogan
No, pride isn't always gay.
harland williams
Okay, they look gay to me.
joe rogan
Pride didn't used to be gay.
It used to be like, you're proud or something.
harland williams
One of them had their hair fluffed out.
He looks pretty gay.
joe rogan
It's actually in the Bible.
harland williams
Lions, they're gay?
joe rogan
Pride.
harland williams
Pride.
joe rogan
It's not good.
harland williams
Wait.
joe rogan
Is it the same thing?
Is it the same thing?
harland williams
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's in the Bible.
It's one of the sins.
harland williams
What, pride?
joe rogan
Yeah.
harland williams
Oh yeah, it's one of the...
Yeah, there's six like...
joe rogan
So why would you make a thing that is like, I have American pride.
I love America.
I do have American pride.
I'm a patriot.
b-real
I think this is an amazing place.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So I have pride.
So does that mean I'm gay or does it mean I'm sinning?
harland williams
Well, if it's just the verb, you're just...
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, what a flexible word.
If you're trying to learn American English, like how we use things, like just English, and you spoke another language that was more logical, you'd be like, what the fuck?
Why don't you have different words?
Why do you have the same word that means such different things?
harland williams
Like the word rose.
Isn't there like seven different meanings for the word rose?
joe rogan
Well, there's the flower.
harland williams
The rose up.
Rose of corn.
joe rogan
Right?
Yeah, yeah.
harland williams
Like, it's just like...
joe rogan
Right.
I didn't think of rose of corn.
Yeah.
Yeah, rose the boat.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
There's so many.
harland williams
That's so stupid.
Well, there's two there.
There's R-O-S-E and R-O-W-S. Same sound.
unidentified
Same thing, yeah.
joe rogan
Did you run out of sounds?
harland williams
Yeah, you could have called...
joe rogan
Obviously you didn't.
They're making new pronoun sounds every day.
harland williams
Yeah, you could have called rows of corn like clonk of corn.
joe rogan
Yeah, something that doesn't make me fucking confused.
Especially if I'm learning the language, like I speak Portuguese or something, like, hold on my friend, you say the same word?
Like, what the fuck are you saying?
What a goofy...
You need so much context to be able to, like, figure out...
I think English is supposed to be one of the most difficult languages to learn.
I think Russian's very hard.
Chinese is very hard.
Mandarin's very hard.
harland williams
Manatee?
Is that what you said?
joe rogan
Mandarin.
Like Chinese.
harland williams
Oh, God.
joe rogan
Imagine, like, you can speak it, but you can't read it or write it.
Because that happens with a lot of Asian languages.
Like, to learn Japanese.
It's like, speaking Japanese is hard, but now you have to learn how to read it and write it?
Like, that's extra hard.
harland williams
I got a story for you about that a little later.
joe rogan
Did you learn Japanese?
harland williams
Well, Vietnamese.
unidentified
Did you?
harland williams
I sort of had to.
joe rogan
Were you in Nam?
unidentified
Yeah.
harland williams
Possibly.
I did two tours in Nam.
And I gotta say, Sunquest bus lines.
joe rogan
The best tours.
harland williams
Oh, God.
Air-conditioned buses.
joe rogan
It's another thing.
Two tours.
harland williams
Yeah.
Right?
joe rogan
Tours.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Very different meaning if you're talking about Vietnam in 1967. Huge difference.
Big difference.
harland williams
And I found out.
Do you mind if I just dip into...
I brought a little something.
I have to do it about every 20 minutes.
I do apologize.
joe rogan
What is it?
harland williams
I have to have an eating thing I have to do.
joe rogan
Really?
harland williams
Well, if you don't mind.
joe rogan
No, no, not at all.
No.
harland williams
Thank you.
unidentified
Oh, God.
joe rogan
What is your eating thing?
harland williams
I'm a little embarrassed.
But, um...
I have a tapeworm.
joe rogan
For real?
harland williams
Yeah.
It's almost four feet.
Have you ever had one?
joe rogan
You really do?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
I never know with you, you know?
I don't know if I should feel bad or stop mocking you.
harland williams
Well, you can do whatever.
I don't even want to bring it up.
joe rogan
But I don't know if I feel bad if it's true.
You have a real tapeworm?
harland williams
I do.
joe rogan
How'd you get it, do you think?
harland williams
I was in the Galapagos Islands recently, and they have a rodent over there called the Bermuda eel rat, and it's not a documented species, it's the local jargon.
Everything evolves.
As you know, through Darwin, everything evolved over in the Galapagos.
The tortoises, everything.
It's a unique place where evolution took place.
And I guess this rat became a bit elongated, its spine.
And so they call it the...
It came originally off a Bermuda-like transport ship or something.
And so they eat it over there.
And I ate the damn thing and I got a parasite that led to a tapeworm.
And she's about a four-footer.
joe rogan
What do they do to get it out?
harland williams
Well, they have pills.
But, I don't even know if I should talk about this, but it's a little odd.
I sort of got attached to the little fella.
joe rogan
Oh, you like having it now?
harland williams
Well, you know, we hear all this talk about, you know, women and men, and men can have babies.
They're telling men they can have children.
joe rogan
So you got a little baby tape for him.
harland williams
Well, let's just say I have something living inside me and I sort of like it.
I sort of like, sometimes I can feel it moving around.
Sometimes I'll put a piece of cheese in the bed at night and it'll come out and I feel like I have a tail.
And so what I have to do is I have to...
I have to eat...
joe rogan
Celery.
harland williams
Well, what it does, it reacts to the vibration of sound, and celery's kind of got the best kind of crunch, and it kind of settles the guy down.
joe rogan
Okay.
harland williams
I just need to take a couple of bites.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Go ahead, Drew.
unidentified
Well, you're going to laugh.
harland williams
You have to do this about every 20 minutes.
joe rogan
For the tapeworm.
harland williams
Yeah.
Settles him down.
joe rogan
I think you're going to a bad doctor.
I think you're getting bad advice.
harland williams
No, I just mean for me.
joe rogan
For you.
harland williams
This is like a self-medicating...
joe rogan
Yeah, I think they can get rid of those things, man.
harland williams
No, but what I'm saying, I've grown attached to Dimitri.
joe rogan
I understand.
harland williams
I like little Dimitri.
joe rogan
He's probably like...
Um, you know, have a forced labor.
harland williams
But I like Dimitri.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you can't keep a baby inside you forever.
The whole idea is the baby gets born and then it goes out.
harland williams
Hold on, Dr. Spock.
These suckers can grow up to 30 feet long.
Mine's a four-footer.
joe rogan
Can they really get that big?
How do they know how big yours is?
Would they do an MRI or something?
harland williams
Well, we did an ultrasound.
joe rogan
And they could see the tapeworm inside of you?
harland williams
You could see it.
joe rogan
Do you have a picture of that?
harland williams
I don't have a picture handy.
joe rogan
How do you not have a picture on your phone of that?
harland williams
I've got my kid, little Dimitri.
joe rogan
Yeah, seems like you'd be really sad if you didn't have a picture of him.
harland williams
I've got to bring one in.
When I come back next week, I'll bring one in.
joe rogan
Tapeworms or cestotodes could range in length one meter up to 50 feet.
50 feet, dude.
15 meters.
The length and width of the tapeworms can vary depending upon the species.
Wow.
Pork, beef, fish tapeworms can grow to be 15 to 30 feet.
harland williams
And Bermuda eel rats.
joe rogan
Yeah.
harland williams
Do they have that there?
joe rogan
How'd that rat taste?
harland williams
You know, it's kind of good.
They season it up with the Galapagos seasoning.
It's kind of like blackened catfish, but it's like Galapagos seasoning.
joe rogan
So you think all those people that live there probably have tapeworms?
harland williams
I don't know if they have it, but I sure got it.
joe rogan
They have to have it.
If you got it, that must mean everybody has it.
harland williams
Unbelievable.
joe rogan
There's places in the world, especially tropical places, where most people have some kind of parasite.
It just becomes a part of your body.
You now exist with that thing in you.
Forever.
You know?
harland williams
Have you ever had a tapeworm?
joe rogan
No, I have not.
harland williams
Do you want one?
joe rogan
No, thanks.
harland williams
What's the worst thing you've ever had?
Like the worst weird ailment?
joe rogan
Staph infection.
harland williams
No way.
How many people on your staff?
joe rogan
It was a small business.
harland williams
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, just one employee.
harland williams
What's a staph infection?
joe rogan
It's an infection that you get on your skin.
harland williams
It's like a bacterial infection?
joe rogan
Exactly.
It's really common in jujitsu, and a lot of people get it, and they don't recognize it.
Ari actually had it, and Ari didn't know he had it until I pointed it out.
And we got him to the hospital like right away.
Ari and I were playing pool and he was limping.
I'm like, why are you limping?
And he goes, I got a spider bite.
And I go, let me see it.
And he pulls his pants up and his knee, he has this swollen like pimple on his knee and the pus at the end of it.
I go, dude, you have a staph infection.
I go, we got to get you to the hospital right now.
He goes, are you serious?
harland williams
Is it lethal?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's lethal.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
People die.
If it gets systemic, if staph infections get systemic, if your body becomes septic, like you could die.
Yeah, people have died from staph.
It happens all the time.
harland williams
Yeah, people get it in hospitals a lot, don't they?
joe rogan
Yes, and unfortunately, in hospitals, they get something called MRSA, and MRSA is medication-resistant staph infection.
harland williams
Wow, a lot of black gospel singers get that, I hear.
joe rogan
Mercy?
harland williams
Oh, that's mercy.
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
What were you saying, Jamie?
Didn't you say something?
Oh, I thought I heard something.
I thought I heard something.
harland williams
Yeah, I thought I heard one, too.
joe rogan
How many people a year die from staph infections?
I think it's a big number.
harland williams
Wow.
joe rogan
I know quite a few people that have been deathly ill from staph infections and had to go to the hospital and get their legs cut open and get their legs drained.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a horrible, horrible thing to watch.
Like, it eats holes in people.
harland williams
You've watched staph infection surgeries?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I mean, I've seen them online.
2017, the Center for Disease Control and Prevention reported that almost 20,000 people in the United States died from bloodstream infections caused by staph.
That's 2017. It killed 20,000 people.
Yeah, so that's the worst thing I've had, for sure.
harland williams
How long did it last?
joe rogan
Didn't last very long, because I caught it.
I got real lucky.
I caught it quick.
I was at an airport with my friend Tate, and I had these little pimples on my calf.
And he goes, hey, what is that on your calf?
I go, I don't know, something.
And he goes, did I think that's staph?
I go, really?
He goes, yeah, you should get it looked at.
So immediately I went to the dermatologist, and he's like, yeah, it looks like staph.
And he put me in antibiotics before they even got the results of the test back.
harland williams
He put you on it, not your cow.
joe rogan
My cow.
harland williams
I thought you said your calf.
joe rogan
Calf, like leg.
Part of your leg.
That one, you really went out there with that one.
That's the worst thing.
Do you really have a tapeworm?
harland williams
I do.
joe rogan
For real?
harland williams
Yes.
Please.
joe rogan
Do they have you on ivermectin?
harland williams
What do they have you on?
You can't get it.
All they do is kill it.
It can live in your system, they told me, for your whole life.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, have you ever seen bears?
They have them, like, sticking out of their ass?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Like a fucking hose, like a garden hose, just hanging down.
harland williams
You ever seen the worms that come out of praying mantises?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, that's disgusting.
harland williams
They're, like, huge.
joe rogan
Huge.
harland williams
They put a praying mantis in water.
And that bastard must not have been praying enough because it's got a tapeworm longer than Dolly Parton's ass hair.
joe rogan
Not only that, those worms, those aquatic worms trick grasshoppers into drowning themselves.
harland williams
Excuse me.
joe rogan
What are you doing, man?
unidentified
Don't do that.
harland williams
No, the pulp.
joe rogan
I know, but don't just grab it and put it on the table.
harland williams
I know, but I felt like I was chewing cud.
Well, I put it on the other celery.
joe rogan
Okay.
harland williams
I would never put cud on your table.
joe rogan
Just stop the celery.
Please.
unidentified
Please.
harland williams
Well, I don't want Dimitri to get upset.
joe rogan
You need to reach into your asshole and pull Dimitri out.
You need to, like, you know, with your shoulders down the ground, ass up here, just get in there and give birth.
unidentified
Joseph, dial it down.
harland williams
I'm not gonna...
joe rogan
Is he ever turtle on you?
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Does he?
harland williams
That's why I call him Dimitri.
One night I put out a piece of feta cheese, the Greek stuff, and he went nuts, came out.
joe rogan
Came out, huh?
harland williams
Have you ever seen a Burmese python?
joe rogan
Yes.
harland williams
I had a lady friend over, and I guess little Dimitri got jealous, and I woke up, all I heard was...
unidentified
He was choking there.
harland williams
He was, yeah.
Unbelievable.
joe rogan
How are you laying?
harland williams
Spooning.
joe rogan
Where's her face?
Is it right where your ass is?
harland williams
Well, we spoon upside down.
joe rogan
I don't know if that makes sense.
harland williams
She uses my nose like a bicycle rack.
unidentified
You have to come out.
Yeah.
It's not pretty, but he's my boy.
joe rogan
How long is it going to take to kill him?
harland williams
I don't want to kill him.
This is why I'm...
joe rogan
No, but for real, for real.
How long is it going to take to kill him?
harland williams
Well, once you take those pills, you can kill it within about three days.
joe rogan
And you're not taking the pills?
harland williams
No.
I'm telling you, guy.
You know, I feel like I have a boy inside me.
Wow, wait a minute.
Like a child.
joe rogan
Okay.
Well...
Good luck with that.
harland williams
Thank you.
joe rogan
I want to see a photo of those bears.
The bears that have it.
It's so disgusting.
It looks like enormous spaghetti just falling out of their ass.
harland williams
Have you ever been attacked by a bear?
joe rogan
No.
I'm here, right?
Look at that.
harland williams
There are survivors.
joe rogan
Look at that tapeworm coming out of his asshole.
How crazy is that?
harland williams
Whoa, looks like he just got married.
You should put tin cans on the end of those.
joe rogan
He's just hoping someone steps on it so he can pull it out of his ass.
harland williams
Yeah.
Looks like he was parachuting and he landed and he's dragging the parachute.
joe rogan
I mean, how insane is that?
harland williams
Wow.
joe rogan
I mean, their whole body is just a disgusting mess.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like when you eat bears.
harland williams
You eat bear?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've eaten bear.
harland williams
Grizz, black bear, polar?
joe rogan
Black bear.
harland williams
Black bear, not grizz?
joe rogan
No, I've never had one of those.
harland williams
Why'd you eat black bear?
joe rogan
I hunted them.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, they have to.
harland williams
But I heard it's kind of a musky kind of weird taste.
joe rogan
No, it really depends on what they've been eating.
But most, unfortunately, most of those bears are probably eating calves, moose calves and fawns, deer fawns.
They tasted good.
harland williams
Black bears are kind of like goats though.
They'll eat just about anything.
joe rogan
They eat a lot.
Do you know that in the early days the pioneers used to eat bear and they'd use deer for skin?
harland williams
Say again?
joe rogan
They just used deer skins.
They just used the hide from deer.
They were eating bear.
harland williams
Oh, I see.
joe rogan
They ate bear more than they ate anything else.
harland williams
Is that right?
joe rogan
Yeah, isn't that crazy?
harland williams
Well, maybe there was a reason for that because the bear...
Was a threat to them.
So maybe it's like, let's kill the thing that could kill our cattle, or kill our children, and let's eat that, versus the docile...
This is just a theory I just came up with.
joe rogan
No, it's a good theory.
That makes sense.
You would definitely want to kill the thing that's killing your food.
And if you could eat it, too, all the better.
And apparently, they thought it tasted the most like beef, whereas venison was different.
harland williams
Yeah, venison has its own taste.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So they ate a lot of bear.
harland williams
Black bears are dangerous, but grizzles are the one you gotta be careful about.
joe rogan
They're all dangerous, man.
They're all bears.
harland williams
I don't know.
Can I share something with you?
joe rogan
Please do.
harland williams
I'm a blueberry nut.
When blueberry season hits in early spring, I'm nuts about it.
joe rogan
How's Dimitri feel about that?
harland williams
Well, he likes celery.
Don't give him berries.
How dare you make fun of my boy, Joe?
joe rogan
Anyway, blueberries?
harland williams
So, this was about seven years ago.
I'm up on a hill in Banff, out in Canada, in the Rocky Mountains.
Grizz.
You know Grizz.
And I'll use a line from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
Remember Karakadis Potts?
He was the father to Dick Van Dyke.
And he used this line where he's singing, he goes, he's doing a song in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, and he does a line where he goes, and the bear came a lollipin' over the mountain.
And I'm sitting there picking blueberries, and this behemoth comes flying over the hill.
joe rogan
So that was a grizzly bear.
harland williams
It was a grizz.
And when they attack, they roll you.
They roll and claw.
And I've never done this, but...
unidentified
You're such a dork.
What do you mean?
Well...
Is that a real fucking tattoo?
Let me see that again.
Let me see that again.
harland williams
Dude, this is not easy for me to talk about.
unidentified
Let me see...
The bear came a-looping over the mountain.
harland williams
And, uh...
joe rogan
That tattoo belongs to a mechanic in Idaho, and you need to give it back to him.
harland williams
So...
unidentified
Let me see it again.
harland williams
What the?
unidentified
Let me see it again.
The bear came a-lolloping over the mountain.
What?
harland williams
How dare you, sir?
joe rogan
Is that the longest anyone's ever gone for a gag?
That's- that is- yeah, that's the furthest anyone's ever gone.
You actually got it tattooed on your chest.
harland williams
Well, hang on, guy.
I'm trying to tell you I got attacked by a grizz.
You know what?
unidentified
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Probably the bear herdy chewing celery.
harland williams
And you know what I did?
I did a thing, I invented it called the jelly roll.
Because I'm in the blueberries.
The only way to evade the grizz, I roll down the hill.
He's ripping my chest straight down the hill into a river.
Boom.
Bouncing around like Moses with tuberculosis teeth.
joe rogan
You're making jelly as you roll through the blueberries.
harland williams
Yeah, I'm crushing the, yeah.
And this bear was just befuddled, just stood there, looked like Forrest Gump with a Chinese dildo up his ass.
Now, a mountain lion, on the other hand, can I share something with you?
unidentified
laughter Does this involve another tattoo?
harland williams
Well, no, the mountain lion...
joe rogan
What the fuck is that?
Did you glue those on?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
unidentified
The mountain lion scrapes.
harland williams
He digs in with his claws.
unidentified
What is wrong with you?
harland williams
Have adventure stories in nature?
joe rogan
Yeah, that makeup artist, whoever did that, they're like from the Twilight Zone.
Same person.
Same person who did that alien's head.
unidentified
It fell off.
joe rogan
Hey, you're healing by the power of Jesus.
harland williams
Oh, God.
joe rogan
You're healing.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
harland williams
But here's where I talked to you earlier about learning Mandarin.
Here's the difference between the evolution of nature, mammals, critters, and human beings.
Cut to about eight years ago.
I'm on the Mackenzie River, and there's white water like you wouldn't believe.
Little Vietnamese boy named Kimmy Long Wow.
Freckles on his face.
Unbelievable.
Tips.
Okay?
Bears, wild cats, they just scratch.
The ingenuity, the intelligence of a human.
I jump in, grab little Kimmy Long Wow, he starts scratching me.
Can I show you something?
Look at this.
This kid scratched the shit out of me and even in a panic state, I had to learn Mandarin.
This was the night before Christmas.
unidentified
Well...
Jeez, man.
harland williams
Unbelievable.
joe rogan
What was his name again?
harland williams
Little Kimmy Long Wow.
He had freckles on his face.
It looked like Dolly Parton serving apple cobbler if you joined them.
joe rogan
He was Vietnamese?
harland williams
Vietnamese boy, Kimmy Long Wow.
joe rogan
Why would a Vietnamese kid have freckles?
It seems uncommon.
harland williams
That's what was so weird.
That's how he stood out amongst all the other boys.
He's like a child of an American GI. I don't know, but just unbelievable kid.
To see a little Vietnamese boy with freckles, you don't get that.
joe rogan
How many American, like that was always a thing, like those Chuck Norris action movies, remember?
Like Missing in Action?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was always about guys that were still stuck over there and we had to go get them.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everybody kind of forgot about that.
harland williams
Are those the guys that inspired you?
Like Norris?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, definitely.
Yeah, Bruce Lee.
harland williams
Like when you were a kid, did you sneak into the movies?
joe rogan
I went to the movies.
And it was on television, too, when I was a kid.
The first Bruce Lee movie I ever saw was on television.
I couldn't believe it.
I was like, look at that guy.
That's insane.
How's he doing that?
But those missing in action movies was all about missing POWs.
And that was always a thing.
The POWs from Vietnam got left behind.
And Chuck Norris is going to go back and get them and set them free.
How many POWs got left behind in Vietnam?
Because that's a fucking real thing, man.
Not only was it a bullshit war, but people went over there and they left them there.
harland williams
John McCain, remember him?
The politician?
joe rogan
Yeah, he was a prisoner for years.
His shoulders were all fucked up.
harland williams
Yeah, he couldn't put his arms down.
I remember I went on a rollercoaster with him once, and at the end of it, I was like, guy, it's done.
And he was still...
joe rogan
That's how crazy Trump is.
Trump made fun of him getting caught.
harland williams
Yeah.
No, Trump said, well, I like guys that didn't get caught.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you saying?
Like, you were going to run away?
You would run away?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you're his enemy, he doesn't give a fuck.
He'll just say anything.
harland williams
You're skewered.
You're skewered.
joe rogan
Even if it doesn't make any sense, they'll say it.
Like, what?
Guys who don't get caught.
What?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How can you fucking say that about a war hero?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
harland williams
That's true.
It's wild.
joe rogan
Crazy, but he's my enemy.
Fuck him.
unidentified
Yeah.
harland williams
No holds barred.
Battle mode.
joe rogan
How many American soldiers got left behind in Vietnam?
I was trying to find a...
And this is, by the way, they're not going to tell you the real number, right?
harland williams
They're not?
joe rogan
No, they didn't tell you why we're going into the war in the first place.
I'm sure that even the death count is probably disputed.
Who knows?
harland williams
Have you ever romanticized being in combat like that, even though it's the death zone?
Have you ever, like, because you're a hunter, you're skilled with the rifle.
Have you ever sort of imaginary, like, immersed yourself into a Vietnamese, like, battle scene?
joe rogan
No.
Nor could I imagine those guys who got conscripted.
They got drafted.
So you didn't even want to do it.
Maybe you just wanted to build cars.
Maybe you wanted to be a painter.
And all of a sudden, you're over there with a rifle, and you're in the dark, in the jungle.
harland williams
But does the hunter side of you go in there and imagine you could excel in that environment?
joe rogan
No.
The hunter is a totally different experience.
The hunting side of me is like...
Dipping my toe into the natural world.
Like getting my food the hard way.
The hunter in me is going out and finding food and interacting with nature.
But the elk are not my enemy.
I love them.
harland williams
Right, but is there a thrill to the kill, though?
There has to be a moment of sort of adrenaline and jubilation when man conquers beast?
Does that exist?
joe rogan
No, the thrill is that you pulled off a difficult thing.
It's very hard to do.
And it's very hard to make a shot with a bow and arrow on an animal.
It's hard.
And a lethal shot.
And to be able to do it consistently.
To do it every time you hunt to be able to make a lethal shot.
And I'm talking about it like 50 yards, 60 yards.
harland williams
Oh, wow.
Do you strictly use bow and arrow?
joe rogan
Yes.
harland williams
Oh, I didn't know that.
I thought you had rifles too.
joe rogan
I shoot with rifles.
I killed a pig last year with a rifle.
harland williams
Wow, what did the farmer say?
joe rogan
Turned him into sausage.
It was a wild one.
harland williams
Oh, how big?
joe rogan
They actually had to kill him.
It was pretty big, 200 pounds.
harland williams
Texas?
joe rogan
No, this was in California.
And so I ate him just the other day.
Was she SAG? No, it was a boy.
It was a boy pig.
unidentified
No, I said, was she SAG? I know what you're saying.
joe rogan
California?
Is that a joke?
An actor joke?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Gotcha.
What was I saying, though?
What was I on about?
harland williams
Well, you were talking about...
joe rogan
Oh, the hunting versus war.
War, to me, is insane.
harland williams
I don't know.
joe rogan
War, to me, is like, I don't want to have nothing to do with that.
harland williams
Really?
joe rogan
No.
harland williams
There's no little piece of you that you're in the dark jungle.
joe rogan
That's someone's boy.
That's someone's baby boy.
I don't think of it even as a man.
It's someone's baby boy that I don't know.
That guy has parents, and they probably love him, and he probably has a wife, and she loves him, and he probably has friends, and they love him.
harland williams
I like it that you said that.
joe rogan
And then some fucking politician is telling me that that guy's my enemy?
I bet that guy and I, if we could speak the language, we'd have a beer together and have a good time.
harland williams
What a great answer.
joe rogan
He probably doesn't want to have anything to do with killing me, and I don't want to have anything to do with killing him.
And we're both being suckered into this thing by a bunch of assholes who are just making money.
harland williams
I love that answer, Joe.
If I could fly over this table and hug you, I would.
joe rogan
We hug a lot.
harland williams
But it reminds me of a movie.
Did you ever see this old movie with Lee Marvin?
And I can't remember the other actor.
He was a Japanese actor.
But this was a movie, I think, in the 60s, where they're both in the war.
The Japanese pilot and Lee Marvin, they both crashed on a remote island.
Supreme enemies.
And they only had each other.
And a box of sake somehow got stranded on the island.
And they became the best friends in the world.
And I think if everyone looked through that prism in life...
They would forget about all the war and the violence when you realize someone else is exactly like you.
joe rogan
Exactly like you.
harland williams
And that you need someone else, and they have the same fears, desires, passions, and wants as you.
It's such a beautiful movie, you know?
We're all the freaking same.
Whenever you get into an altercation with someone you feel disliked towards someone, you should always just picture yourself trapped on an island with that person and go, You know what?
If I were alone with them, I would love them.
They'd be my best friend.
joe rogan
You'd figure it out.
harland williams
It's a mental thing.
If everyone kind of adopted that mentality, I think things would be nice.
joe rogan
Things could be a lot better.
We're divided by so many things in this world.
We're divided by politics.
You hear Robert De Niro screaming in front of people about Trump.
harland williams
Horrible.
joe rogan
What are you doing?
What is this?
This is silly behavior.
All this is so silly.
harland williams
Not only that, labeling them, calling them clowns, and denigrating them, saying, you're less than me because I like this and you like that.
joe rogan
It's all insane.
harland williams
Do you remember that there was a beautiful experiment done by Jane Elliott in the 1960s?
Where she took a classroom of children and she said all the children with brown eyes raise your hands and all the children with blue eyes raise your hands and she separated them.
And you can find it on YouTube.
She told all the blue-eyed children that they were beautiful, they were smarter, they were more superior than the brown-eyed children.
And she conducted this experiment for a week, and over the course of the days, the blue-eyed children started denigrating and looking down on the brown-eyed children and acting superior.
And then halfway through the experiment, Jane Elliott goes, oh, I made a mistake.
It's the brown-eyed children that are more superior, and so the whole thing shifted, and all the children in that class got to feel what it was like To be put down, to have racism towards them.
It was a fascinating experiment.
It's on YouTube.
If you ever want to watch it, it's mesmerizing.
joe rogan
It's an interesting experience, but what the fuck, lady?
You're playing tricks on kids?
harland williams
Well, I think she was trying to...
joe rogan
I get you're demonstrating, but you're also tricking these kids into thinking that way.
harland williams
Well, I think she was setting the table for them in life, saying, hey, don't think you're better than anyone.
We're all the same.
And don't let people tell you you're better than everyone.
And it was also a social experiment that was documented, too.
joe rogan
Would you let your kid do that?
harland williams
Do that kind of experiment?
joe rogan
Yeah, if they didn't know, would you let them sign up for that?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
And talk shit to the blue-eyed kids?
harland williams
You know what?
I'd let my kid live through that.
joe rogan
I would hope I would have told my kid a long time ago that that would be nonsense and that they wouldn't believe that.
harland williams
Right.
I would teach my kid that.
It's one thing to tell a kid something and then to let something play out in the real world.
It's a different thing.
Humans have a tendency to get caught up in the fever of things.
Like COVID. Like COVID. Like politics.
joe rogan
Politics.
harland williams
Like all of this stuff.
joe rogan
Anytime there's any sort of international conflict.
Palestine and Israel, Ukraine and Russia.
harland williams
You have a sect of people that sort of know what's what, and then you have a large sect of people that just get caught up in the furor of it.
And it's scary to see how quickly people are absorbed by it and caught up in it.
It's frightening.
joe rogan
Well, you ever been to a protest?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Protests feel like a mob.
It feels dangerous.
When there's a bunch of people walking around, even if it's peaceful, and they're cheering, especially if they're cheering about something that happened that was violent, and they're angry, and they're demanding something, and they're all marching.
It's like, ew.
I think that ignites in human beings the same feelings of war.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is my cough button still busted, Jamie, or did you swap that out?
harland williams
You okay?
jamie vernon
It's going to be a pain in the ass to swap it.
joe rogan
We had a cough button.
I don't think that's right.
unidentified
There.
jamie vernon
It's working there, yeah.
harland williams
Do you want to try it?
joe rogan
No.
No, it's just phlegm.
unidentified
Well.
joe rogan
I'm good to go.
I don't eat celery.
harland williams
Please, friend.
joe rogan
No, thank you.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
I don't have any tapeworms and I don't enjoy celery.
harland williams
Can't you accept the gift?
unidentified
I like it with peanut butter.
joe rogan
Do you have any peanut butter?
unidentified
This motherfucker might have peanut butter in there.
harland williams
How about a cauliflower?
joe rogan
No, that's not the same thing.
harland williams
Well, it's got the same letters in it.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
It doesn't have all of them.
harland williams
It's missing the B. I thought you liked cauliflower.
joe rogan
No.
harland williams
Well, now what am I going to do?
joe rogan
Just put it down.
unidentified
Well, what were we just talking about before that?
joe rogan
Vietnam.
harland williams
Are you okay, guy?
joe rogan
Yeah, I just got this phlegm thing.
harland williams
Nothing.
Maybe you've got phlegmen.
unidentified
Maybe.
harland williams
Whoa!
Whoa!
unidentified
Ooh, I like that.
joe rogan
Imagine what they can smell.
harland williams
You ever do that noise when you're making love?
joe rogan
No.
harland williams
Why not?
joe rogan
What the fuck are you doing?
harland williams
Dude, it's primal.
Women love it.
joe rogan
She'd get up and leave.
harland williams
No, here's an experiment from me to you.
I want you to try that.
joe rogan
Animal noises?
harland williams
Next time you're making love, not to get into your purse, I respect your personal space, but doggy style, right by her ear.
joe rogan
Carl just started barking.
Listen to Carl!
unidentified
Listen to Carl.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen Carl do that?
Has Carl ever done that before?
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
He's fired up.
That is crazy.
He really believes.
If calling dogs was a thing, I'd have a really good career in dog calling.
harland williams
Let's hear your growl.
Dude, you gotta...
joe rogan
Carl believes it.
harland williams
You gotta try that with your wife.
unidentified
That's poor Carl!
harland williams
Sorry, Carl.
joe rogan
Poor Carl!
harland williams
Oh, God, he thinks he's...
Walked into a wolf pack.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's like, someone's gonna eat me.
This is bullshit.
These guys have been pretending to be my friends.
They've been letting me bite their fingers the whole time.
They're setting me up.
harland williams
Dude, I'm telling you.
joe rogan
Sorry, Carl.
harland williams
Try that with the wife.
joe rogan
Okay.
harland williams
You gotta try it.
unidentified
Sorry, Carl.
joe rogan
Poor Carl.
Poor little Carl.
harland williams
Poor Carl.
joe rogan
He's like, what the fuck?
harland williams
That's a good noise.
joe rogan
Thank you.
harland williams
Where'd you acquire that skill?
Because I learned it when I had a puppy.
I would try to...
I like to communicate to animals in their own language if you can.
joe rogan
Right.
harland williams
You have dogs, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, but I just talk to him.
harland williams
You don't do that?
joe rogan
He hardly ever barks.
He very, very, very rarely barks.
He'll bark if he has to go outside, like if he has diarrhea.
He'll bark.
He'll get by the door and go, fire!
Or he'll bark if he sees something.
You know what he used to bark?
Carl's done, huh?
harland williams
Wow, he's terrified.
He's tired.
joe rogan
Now he wants to bite us, man.
He's a little gangster.
You remember those inflatable snowmen that people would have on their front lawn around Christmas time?
harland williams
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He barks at those.
harland williams
What, your dog?
Why?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
He thinks it's a thing.
He wants to tell me there's a big animal there.
He's letting me know.
He's like, Dad!
unidentified
What the fuck is that, Dad?
harland williams
Maybe he thinks it's a Yeti, like one of those abominable snowmen.
joe rogan
I bet he thinks it's a bear.
I bet it's just like...
I bet in a dog's mind, there's a shape that has two arms that stands up big, and you go, Bark!
Bark!
unidentified
Bark!
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I have to go, Dude, that is just...
That's a snowman.
Don't worry about it.
harland williams
I love it that your dog has a diarrhea bark.
joe rogan
He has a, I gotta go out now bark.
harland williams
But you said diarrhea.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
harland williams
What's that one sound like?
joe rogan
Same thing.
It's basically, hey!
harland williams
I got to run!
Let's go to Taco Bell!
joe rogan
I got a funny video that I'll send to Jamie, and then we go watch it, because it was him last night.
Because last night, he hadn't gone out in like...
Four hours.
And there was thunderstorms outside.
And when there's thunderstorms outside, he fucking freaks out.
He freaks out.
Like, I can't watch TV with him when there's thunderstorms.
He just, like, when we watch TV together, we sit on the couch and we cuddle.
And so I sit like this and he, like, puts his head, like, on my lap.
harland williams
What kind of dog is this?
joe rogan
Golden Retriever.
harland williams
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
The sweetest dog of all time.
harland williams
Yeah, perfect.
joe rogan
And sometimes, I don't even hear it, you know, because I'm watching the movie.
But all of a sudden, he starts like spinning around.
I'm like, dude, chill out.
And then he just jumps off the couch, jumps back on the couch, kisses me off the couch, back on the couch.
So last night, Jamie, I just sent this to you.
Last night, he had to pee.
I'm like, I know you have to pee.
It's like midnight.
Come on, bro.
Like, look at this.
harland williams
He kept jumping at me.
joe rogan
He kept jumping at me.
unidentified
Go potty.
joe rogan
This is all just because of the lightning.
harland williams
Oh, wow.
unidentified
He's a giant pussy when it comes to lightning.
joe rogan
Dude, please go pee in four hours.
unidentified
Come on.
joe rogan
I love you too.
Come on.
Go potty.
He just keeps jumping at me.
All he does is just jump at me.
You gotta pee.
I know.
harland williams
But normally he'd just go out and pee.
joe rogan
100%.
He literally never does this.
harland williams
Wow.
joe rogan
But he's wagging his tail.
harland williams
He loves it.
joe rogan
I mean, he's excited, right?
His tail's not between his legs, but he's just freaked out.
harland williams
Maybe he's got the diarrhea, but he's afraid to start so he doesn't get electrocuted.
Yeah.
Wow.
joe rogan
Marshall, I know, but you gotta pee, dude.
Come on.
Go potty.
Marshall, please go potty.
He wouldn't pee.
I had to bring him back in the house.
He just would not pee.
He just wanted to jump up and just freaked out.
He wanted to make sure that I was okay.
I'm with him.
You're okay.
He wants to be on top of you when the lightning's happening.
harland williams
Weird.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's just like, are we okay?
I'm like, we're okay.
As long as I'm okay, he thinks it's okay.
He's like, we gotta get the fuck out of here.
His instincts are like, we're not supposed to be out in the open.
This is dangerous.
harland williams
Wait, how old is he?
joe rogan
Seven.
harland williams
Oh, so you'd think by now he'd sort of have it figured out the way animals do.
joe rogan
Well, the thing is, when he was young, until he was, I guess, three-ish, we moved here four years ago, and he never really saw lightning.
Like, very rarely do you see lightning in California.
harland williams
Yeah, you're right.
Or hear thunder.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Very rarely do you have those kind of crazy storms they have out here.
The storms they have out here are fire.
Fucking wild.
Yeah.
Some guy posted a video yesterday, Jamie, on Instagram of his car getting destroyed by hail in Texas.
Like some insane, like four-inch hail chunks.
You see his windshield shattering, his back windshield got blown out while he's driving.
He's like, this is insane!
He's watching his car just get destroyed.
It's rocks, just rocks dropping out of the sky.
harland williams
Yeah.
Sometimes I think they actually puncture right through the roof, like through the metal.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
You've got to think of how far.
If you've got a four-inch chunk of ice that's hurling from space, like it's basically in the clouds.
Look at that.
Oh, wow.
What the fuck, dude?
harland williams
That looks like JF Kennedy's car.
joe rogan
He had a convertible.
harland williams
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It broke windows.
harland williams
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Fucks these cars up, man.
harland williams
Whoa, he's fingering it.
joe rogan
I wonder how many people get killed by hail every year.
There's a good question.
harland williams
Looks like they got hit by assholes.
joe rogan
What kills more, staff or hail?
harland williams
I don't know, but I know they say about, I think they say 12 to 30 people a year, this is for real, get killed by a falling coconut.
joe rogan
150. Well, not where I come from.
150 people a year.
harland williams
150 now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
harland williams
So it's gone up.
joe rogan
We were talking about, like, things that kill people, but they, like, inflate numbers.
Like, marijuana kills zero.
Coconuts.
Falling on people's hands kill 150 people.
We're not outlawing coconuts.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
harland williams
Can you imagine getting killed by a coconut?
joe rogan
It would suck.
harland williams
What a way to go.
joe rogan
It's not good.
It's not a good way to go.
harland williams
Especially if you're like an accomplished person.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Everything's going great.
harland williams
Like if Steve Jobs had gotten killed by a coconut or his little brother.
unidentified
Elon Musk.
joe rogan
Imagine Elon Musk gets killed by a coconut.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
No one would believe it.
The fucking CIA made that coconut.
harland williams
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Wild dangerous, according to the NOAA. Since 2000, only four people have been killed by hail.
unidentified
Wow.
harland williams
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
How many people get killed every year by lightning?
Let's guess.
harland williams
Okay.
60. I'll say...
joe rogan
I don't know why I said 60. 200. 200. Worldwide?
harland williams
Globally.
joe rogan
Globally.
Yeah, you're probably right.
20 in the U.S. 20 in the U.S., wow.
Every year.
harland williams
So what is it globally?
Gotta figure the Chinese are getting picked off by...
Because they got billions, right?
You got...
joe rogan
The odds are.
And they have skyscrapers.
They live in skyscrapers.
harland williams
I wonder if Kimmy Long Wild's gonna get it.
joe rogan
24,000.
Wow.
harland williams
24,000 a year?
joe rogan
Yeah.
harland williams
Killed by lightning?
Wow.
We were both way off.
joe rogan
Wow.
harland williams
Whoa.
joe rogan
It was a lot less than I thought it would be in America.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
60 is what I thought in America.
harland williams
Have you ever been hit by lightning?
joe rogan
No but my friend Remy has.
harland williams
Remy, did he live?
joe rogan
Yeah, he lived.
He was here on the podcast a couple days ago.
harland williams
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
He got hit by lightning, I think, when he was in high school.
I think it made him deaf for a little bit.
Like, really fucked him up.
harland williams
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, he didn't realize what happened.
He just woke up on the ground.
And they had to piece it together that he got hit by lightning.
harland williams
The electronic charge going through the air.
Unbelievable.
joe rogan
Have you seen what's going on right now in...
Where is it where there's these, is it Uruguay?
Where is it where there's insane lightning storms that are coming out of that volcano?
harland williams
Oh yeah, I saw that.
joe rogan
Have you seen that?
It's a different kind of lightning.
So it's the particles, the charged particles that are being released by the lava ignites with the air somehow.
We'll get to explain.
harland williams
Yeah, in the smoke too.
joe rogan
So it's a different kind of lightning.
harland williams
The steam, the particles get caught in the steam, the translucent.
joe rogan
And it makes these insane lightning shows.
Like, look at this.
harland williams
Yeah.
unidentified
Indonesia.
joe rogan
Indonesia.
But it's been going on a lot lately, even during the day.
There's a lot of films on TikTok and Instagram and stuff about it.
Bro, that is so bonkers.
That means if you were alive 5,000 years ago and you saw that, you're like, oh, Satan.
That's where Satan lives.
Satan's back.
Fuck.
He's back.
Dude, I got news, everybody.
We're fucked, man.
Satan's back.
Look.
Look at the mountain.
Satan landed on the top of the mountain.
He's there with lightning and shit.
harland williams
It's a summer home.
joe rogan
If you saw this, you'd be like, okay, that's where Satan is.
100% you would think that.
That's where Thor is.
That's where the god of thunder is.
harland williams
That's where Beelzebub lives.
Look at that.
joe rogan
You would 100% Sauron lives up there.
That's the eye of Sauron.
harland williams
People don't know that lightning comes up out of the ground, too.
Did you know that, Joe?
joe rogan
Does it really?
harland williams
Yeah, lightning comes...
People just think all lightning comes from...
And I'm not talking a volcano.
I'm talking regular time.
joe rogan
So you could get it right up your ass if you're in the wrong spot?
harland williams
You could get a bolt up your arse.
But for real.
joe rogan
Can you imagine?
You could just, your nuts blasted by lightning.
harland williams
Poor Dimitri.
joe rogan
How bad would that suck?
Just be walking along in the field going, wow, what a beautiful night.
harland williams
Bang.
joe rogan
From the ground.
harland williams
Yeah, it's true.
joe rogan
Right to your sack.
harland williams
Yeah.
Do you have any pictures of that?
joe rogan
Out to your head.
Three balls out to your head.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just cooked.
Cooked.
Cooked.
Never be the same again.
Cooked.
harland williams
What's that noise you did at the end there?
joe rogan
That's the nuts.
You gotta think.
The electricity's going through the ground, in your nuts, and out the top of your head.
Just imagine your whole body captured by this lightning.
harland williams
It would be like stepping on a landmine, but you didn't blow up.
Look at that.
Right up out of the ground.
joe rogan
Lightning trailing from ground to clouds in slow motion.
harland williams
Isn't that wild?
joe rogan
Wow, that's insane.
harland williams
It's like an Etch-a-Sketch.
unidentified
Wow.
harland williams
People don't really know these things, and that's why it's important you have me on the show twice a month type of deal.
joe rogan
I'm really glad you're here for this.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look how cool that looks in slow motion.
That's what's really happening.
Fuck, that's amazing.
harland williams
Look at that, right out of the ground.
That's as big as any lightning strike you'll see coming out of the sky.
joe rogan
God damn, that's amazing.
harland williams
Yeah.
That looks a lot like Dimitri, I gotta say.
joe rogan
Oh, the little branches.
And this is all in slow motion.
Look how quick those little branches flicker off in the corners and the sides.
harland williams
That looks a lot like Dimitri's ultrasound, by the way.
joe rogan
I bet.
harland williams
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
harland williams
Just so we're clear.
joe rogan
Lightning is fucking cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's one of the interesting things about living here is we have these lightning storms.
You get to watch lightning.
harland williams
Yeah.
Florida.
I think it's one of the most lightning active places on the planet.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
harland williams
Yeah.
Florida.
joe rogan
Florida's like, this is the hurricane season there.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, if you're planning a trip to Florida now, like, hey, you know, you gotta check that weather.
harland williams
Yeah, but it can be stunningly beautiful, though.
I've been in scenarios where I've been in Florida at night, and you got celery juice on me, and you look out, like, two, three miles out, and there will be active storms going on in the cumulus, right?
Mm-hmm.
The degenerative molecular charged transphyxiation particles...
Are lighting up the clouds.
And it's like you're at a Judas Priest concert covered in mayonnaise.
joe rogan
You got another thank God.
harland williams
Yeah, just like...
And it's like all over.
Do you believe in the Matrix?
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't disbelieve in it.
harland williams
Because if you ever want to have it, I've got this chemically reversed inverse magnetron camera.
And one of the things we associate with the matrix is what?
joe rogan
Those little numbers coming down in green.
harland williams
So if you can take a picture, think of it.
Where does that exist in reality?
But if you can go out on a stormy night like that, rain coming down with your magnetized nitronic reverse camera and take a picture while lightning's flashing, think of it.
What are raindrops?
unidentified
Water.
harland williams
Right.
But not when you take them with an infrared matronic camera.
joe rogan
What are they then?
You'll see- Numbers?
In the raindrops?
harland williams
You can see it.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Interesting.
harland williams
If you believe in that stuff.
joe rogan
Well, a person's got to believe in something.
harland williams
Do you believe in it?
joe rogan
What?
harland williams
The Matrix.
joe rogan
I don't disbelieve in it.
harland williams
You know, I can tell you that you've experienced it in real time.
joe rogan
How can you do that?
harland williams
A little term, Joe Rogan, called déjà vu.
Have you ever experienced déjà vu?
joe rogan
Yes.
harland williams
So think of it.
How can you be in a place that you've never been before, you're standing somewhere foreign, somewhere new, and all of a sudden your brain computes that you've been in this exact moment and it's undeniable.
Right?
How is that happening?
joe rogan
Well, it's not really undeniable.
harland williams
Well, it is undeniable because you're in it, right?
joe rogan
But it's probably a glitch in how you interface with reality.
harland williams
Therefore, a glitch in the matrix.
joe rogan
Well, it's probably how your brain's firing.
Your brain has just like...
Brain is essentially just like a computer in a way.
There's a lot of calculations that are going on simultaneously.
A lot of sensors are being considered.
Different senses are affecting the way you view the world.
And I think it's very possible that you can have a situation where things just get a little wonky for a second and you think, have I done this before?
Have I done it before?
But how?
Or you have done it before.
And every time you do this, you try to do it better.
And you live the same life over and over and over again until you get it right.
A lot of people believe that.
harland williams
That's a good theory.
It plays into what I'm going for here.
I had a moment in time where I had deja vu.
I'm not going to say where and when because I don't want anyone to interfere with it.
But I've never told anyone this before.
I had a place in time where I was walking.
I was going under a bridge.
A pigeon flew out, okay?
joe rogan
Right.
harland williams
A child was laughing in the background.
You know, like a child, like, hee-hee, you know, like a giggle, a playground giggle.
And a red car went by, and I was like, I've been here before, a place I'd never been.
unidentified
Okay.
harland williams
So I documented the experience, the time, the place, and I've gone back to that same place for nine years to the exact same place at the same time.
Check this out.
Red car goes by, bird flies out, pigeon, kid laughing in the background.
But this year, something different happened that I'd never seen.
A feather...
Fell off of the bird when it flew out.
So check this out.
Don't get ahead of me.
joe rogan
Well, the Matrix must be real.
harland williams
Well, hold on.
I got this examined.
I have a lot of friends in the science community.
I know a bunch of Scientologists.
And I had them analyze this.
Pigeon flew out.
Here.
joe rogan
I'm good.
harland williams
This is a feather from a great auk.
Do you know what that is?
It's an extinct species of bird from South America.
Please.
joe rogan
That's okay, just put it down.
harland williams
Well, I think you'd like to touch it.
joe rogan
No, I'm good.
harland williams
So how does an extinct species of bird drop a feather from a common pigeon?
joe rogan
Who knows, man.
That's it?
That's the animal?
harland williams
That's the auk.
joe rogan
Looks like that animal didn't really have feathers.
harland williams
It did, believe me, and I'm holding one right here.
joe rogan
What extinct?
350 years ago?
Is that what it was?
Hmm.
harland williams
Matrix.
joe rogan
Oh, from healthy to extinct in 350 years.
They probably taste delicious.
They're probably stupid and they taste delicious.
unidentified
That's what happens.
harland williams
Whoa, whoa.
joe rogan
The great auk.
Little cutie.
Can that thing even fly?
harland williams
No.
joe rogan
Sounds like a bullshit story.
How's that feather get there?
harland williams
Well, this is what I'm saying.
joe rogan
This thing lives near the ocean.
harland williams
The Matrix.
joe rogan
You just found a feather that maybe someone dropped.
harland williams
It floated off of the pigeon for nine years.
joe rogan
Maybe not.
Maybe it just was near where the pigeon was and it was flying through the air because someone had an auk.
Like, taxidermy in their apartment building.
And that feather just kept drifting in the way.
And just coincidentally, as the pigeon was passing, that feather was making its way.
Like, oh my god, look what fell off the pigeon.
An ancient extinct auk feather.
But meanwhile, it was just someone who was in an apartment building with taxidermy of the auk, and they had the window open, the fan on.
unidentified
Touche.
joe rogan
You never know.
Could be magic, though.
harland williams
I like what I'm hearing.
joe rogan
Do you think this is the Matrix?
If this is a simulation, what does it say about your choice of how you've chosen to exist in the simulation?
harland williams
I don't know that we have a choice.
joe rogan
You don't think so?
harland williams
Well, the matrix is numbers, it's mathematical, so do we really have a choice?
Did we have a choice that we were conceived?
Did we have a choice that our- We don't think we did.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
But maybe we do.
Or maybe it's inevitable.
Maybe there's just this mathematical cycle of atoms and protons and molecules interacting with each other.
This is the way it's always going to go.
It's going to go this way the same way over and over and over again.
And the only thing different is that you get to learn from your past mistakes at least some way in the essence of your being and do a better job of existing this next go around.
harland williams
I don't know that we have to do a better job.
I don't think we have a choice.
I think evolution just takes us.
We're just hanging on to bear's tapeworms at this point, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you live the same life over and over and over again, you're going to go through the same nature interaction over and over again.
It's not going to be like a differently evolved world.
You're going to live the same thing over and over again.
Like, if you thought about it, like you and I. How old are you?
harland williams
Wow.
joe rogan
I'm 56. How old are you?
harland williams
61. Are you really?
Yeah.
joe rogan
For real?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
You look really good.
harland williams
Thank you.
joe rogan
You do.
You look really good.
Except the scars.
You're a little beat up.
harland williams
I've been rolled by a grizz.
joe rogan
We have gone through one of the weirdest lives.
You know, and if the simulation is real, and if you wanted...
If the simulation wanted you to go through the most...
Profound changes that human beings have ever experienced in the time of their life, just in how people interface with the world.
You and I have done that.
We exist.
We were born in a time where there was no internet and you got your news from television and everybody had a sort of a limited understanding of the world.
You could bullshit your way through most things because nobody could Google you.
Nobody could get a book on you.
You couldn't just run to the library and find out if Mike was telling the truth about his war stories.
You had to just believe people.
harland williams
You had to microfiche things.
joe rogan
Everything was possible.
The world was a different place.
Then there's answering machines and cell phones, and then the internet comes along, and now we're living in a fucking insane world where AI's about to take over.
If you were gonna pick a timeline to go through if it wasn't real, and you wanted the most profound adventure, you've chosen that.
You've chosen the most profound changes that people will experience in a relatively safe timeline.
Relatively safe in comparison to the Genghis Khan days or the days of the Roman Empire.
Just relatively safe in comparison.
harland williams
But profound changes for this moment.
And we're accelerating so rapidly, Joe, that things are going to be at a whole other level quickly where we're going to be looking in the rearview mirror and going, oh yeah, AI. Remember that?
There's going to be something that takes us to the next level.
And then another level after that.
We are going to transcend so far that I don't even know what humans and humanity looks like in a thousand years, if not less.
joe rogan
Oh, I don't think it's even 50 years.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what's crazy.
You and I are living through the weirdest time ever.
harland williams
Yeah, because it started like we kind of had in high school for us, it was the Texas Instrument Calculator was the mind blower.
Then we got a fax machine like 15 years later.
joe rogan
Insane.
harland williams
And then we got the home computer and then the internet, and that was again like a decade in between.
And cut to smartphones, and it's been about, what, 15 years with them now, and now AI, and it's just like, everything's happening exponentially quicker.
joe rogan
I remember I was on news radio with Dave Foley in the 90s.
Dave Foley, he's a big computer internet technology nut.
He loves that stuff.
And at the time, he was the first person I ever met who had a laptop.
harland williams
Okay.
joe rogan
So he had a laptop back then.
It was one of those Mac laptops.
You know, black plastic ones back in the day.
And he had this app running in the background where it gave him constant news.
He's like, look, if I keep it connected to the internet, it constantly gives me news.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I was like, whoa!
You get any news from the internet?
This is crazy.
So it's like all the news stories of world events.
And so when I look back now at how we're just inundated, like constantly inundated with like world conflict stories, world events, world problems, world environmental crises, world starvation, world floods, like world volcanoes with lightning.
Like, oh, it's good.
You never fucking saw.
I remember that moment, that very moment when I was looking at Dave's laptop and I I was like, wow.
The internet is just going to feed you the news in real time.
You don't have to tune into the news.
You don't have to go buy a newspaper.
This was like this profound moment for me where I still look back at that day, and I go, that was the first time I ever saw a baby.
A baby supercomputer.
Oh, look, it's a little baby.
The news.
harland williams
The news on the laptop.
Ironically, you're on a show called News Radio.
joe rogan
Crazy.
Very ironically.
Matrix.
Very ironically.
Yeah.
harland williams
Wow.
Yeah, I'm excited to see where it goes.
Because I think the next evolution of this could be tractor beams, it could be particle movers, it could be, you know, as ridiculous as it sounds, the transporter beam on Star Trek.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
harland williams
I feel like, you know, maybe 50 years, maybe 100 years, people are going to look back and go, wait, you went to a place called an airport?
You got on a tube and flew 18 hours to Australia?
Like, I think we're going to be at a place one day where maybe they can rearrange our molecules and particles and beam us.
I feel like if we can imagine it, it's going to happen.
joe rogan
Yeah, I bet it's going to happen.
I mean, isn't it funny that Star Trek figured that out, but they didn't figure out computers.
And they didn't figure out cell phones.
They had walkie-talkies, remember?
harland williams
Well, they had the communicators.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it was a walkie-talkie.
harland williams
Spock, I've got diarrhea.
Send me some Pepto-Bismol immediately.
joe rogan
But it wasn't, you couldn't both talk.
Like, if you and I were on a phone call together, what's up, Harlan?
Hey, what's up, dude?
It's like, hey, Harlan, how are you?
Over.
harland williams
Yeah, and there was no video component.
Idiots.
joe rogan
Those idiots didn't even have FaceTime.
harland williams
Dumb.
They gotta get back to the future.
joe rogan
They didn't have nothing.
harland williams
Dumbasses.
joe rogan
Yeah, remember that?
harland williams
Yeah, it had a twirly thing.
joe rogan
Look at that stupid piece of shit.
harland williams
It had an acid trip-like kaleidoscope.
joe rogan
And who knows what those buttons are even for?
They're not even labeled.
What if I find that thing on the beach?
I know what to do with it.
harland williams
I think it's an electric razor, if you ask me.
joe rogan
I think it's straight bullshit.
harland williams
Yeah, I think it's a garage door opener.
joe rogan
I like how it had to flip closed, though.
I used to love that about old phones, when you could hang up like that.
harland williams
Oh, I love that.
joe rogan
Snap.
harland williams
Snap.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
harland williams
Fuck you.
joe rogan
Yeah, like those razor phones.
harland williams
Shut the garage door.
joe rogan
I remember I had one of those Razer phones.
I thought I was James Bond.
harland williams
Yeah, you could express yourself with them.
joe rogan
The Razer phone was the shit.
harland williams
Yeah, what did that one do?
joe rogan
It was just this thin, little, beautiful piece of metal.
It had a terrible battery life, unfortunately.
Because most phones had insane battery life back then.
A phone would last for days.
harland williams
Right.
joe rogan
Because the phones now, they just have so much electronics and this beautiful screen and high resolution.
It's doing things.
You're playing games on it.
You're taking pictures.
But still, your battery's good for a day.
That was the shit.
I had one of those.
I thought I was in space.
harland williams
Well, I also liked the little side saddle.
Did you have the holster on your belt?
joe rogan
I tried that.
I couldn't do it.
I felt like such a dork.
And this is coming from a guy who wears a fanny back.
harland williams
Yeah, right.
And you like to play with guns.
You have guns.
joe rogan
I don't play with guns, sir.
But this phone right here, for me, was the fucking shit.
I could never imagine seeing somebody with one of those today.
I would be like, what are you doing with that thing?
harland williams
But aren't they bringing them back?
joe rogan
They have a different one.
But the new one is like a new phone.
It's like a modern phone.
The new one folds.
harland williams
Yeah, look at that.
joe rogan
But it has apps.
It's essentially a regular phone.
But it does close, and it's real slim.
Like, look, it looks pretty similar.
harland williams
I think you might have to get one.
Would you do it?
joe rogan
I thought about switching to Android, just because I don't like being trapped in the Apple ecosystem.
I don't like the idea of it.
But Google does a lot of, like, really shady stuff with...
There's different things they do that I don't like.
And one of the things they do is...
Like, if you look at...
What was their most recent declaration?
They were talking about censoring things in a time of social problems.
Remember that, Jamie?
They reserved the right to censor information under certain circumstances.
It had something to do with Google Ads, yeah.
There's...
There's things that I don't like in terms of search results, curation, because that's the thing that Google does, that Robert Epstein has been working on for a long time, like, showing that when you...
Like, say if you Google a presidential candidate, right?
If you Google a candidate that's Democrat, you'll get...
You know, especially someone who they want to win, you'll get like a lot of positive stories that come up first, and you have to go deep if you want to find something about corruption or accusations or anything like that.
But if you do Google Republican, it'll go right to that.
Now, I'm not saying this is just an example.
I'm not saying you could find that.
But his research shows this, and I'm doing a bad job of paraphrasing it because I don't remember exactly what it said.
But essentially, his claim was that in curating search results, you can have an impact on elections.
In curating search results and putting positive things for the people that you want to be elected in the prominence of the search result, if it's not an organic search result, if you actually are curating it, you can affect the way people feel about candidate, and that will affect the election results.
harland williams
Okay.
joe rogan
And so that's an issue.
That's Google.
harland williams
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
So I have an issue with that, and Google is Android.
harland williams
I agree.
joe rogan
But I also have an issue with the Apple walled garden, and I think there's a lawsuit going on right now about that, where they're trying to get people to, you know, because of iMessage and FaceTime and all that stuff doesn't work on other phones.
harland williams
Oh, right, right, right.
joe rogan
FaceTime does sort of, but you have to take a few steps, and that's a new thing.
A new thing is like if you FaceTime someone on an Android phone, they have to take a few steps to do it.
harland williams
Okay.
joe rogan
I wonder how that works.
I've never tried that.
Have you ever tried that?
harland williams
I haven't tried it.
joe rogan
Let's try it right now.
harland williams
Okay.
joe rogan
I'm going to FaceTime Brian Simpson.
Okay.
FaceTime Brian Simpson.
harland williams
I'm going to FaceTime OJ Simpson.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it gives you like a link to send him or something, right?
joe rogan
Okay.
harland williams
Is he still alive?
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
It said, I haven't seen O.J. Simpson.
harland williams
Wait.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's answering questions.
What the F? It thought we were really asking about O.J. Simpson.
harland williams
Maybe I should reach out to him.
joe rogan
It didn't give me a link to send.
Where's the link?
jamie vernon
I think it's up on the top, like where the other buttons are.
joe rogan
No.
Hold on a second.
It didn't work.
How do I do it if I want to send him a text?
FaceTime Brian Simpson.
harland williams
FaceTime OJ Simpson.
joe rogan
Okay, send.
What the fuck, you piece of shit?
harland williams
Oh, wow.
Went right to Hertz Rent-A-Car.
joe rogan
Hold on, be quiet for a second.
harland williams
Well...
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
unidentified
Well...
joe rogan
FaceTime Brian Simpson.
Okay.
Alright, it said join my FaceTime.
Alright, I sent it to him.
And let's see if it works.
So let's see what he has to do.
harland williams
Who's Brian Simpson?
joe rogan
He's a hilarious stand-up comedian that is performing tonight at the Comedy Mothership.
harland williams
Oh, awesome.
joe rogan
And he just released a special on Netflix that's amazing.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That he filmed at the Mothership.
So it says Invite Sent.
Maybe I should call him and tell him what's going on.
harland williams
Who, Brian?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Okay, this is just holding me up here.
Call Brian Simpson.
Alright, here we go.
unidentified
Hello?
joe rogan
Hey, brother.
It's Joe.
I'm on the podcast right now.
You're live on the podcast with Harlan Williams.
We were talking about how Apple keeps people from being able to use certain features like iMessage and FaceTime.
And I was saying that you can FaceTime someone that has an Android phone, but there's a bunch of steps they have to take.
I don't know how to do it.
So we're trying to figure out how to do it.
I'm going to FaceTime you right now, okay?
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
I'll FaceTime you in like two seconds.
Bye.
harland williams
Cool.
joe rogan
FaceTime Brian Simpson.
Alright.
I sent him.
Join my FaceTime.
Let's see how that works.
So here it goes.
Let's see how this feature works.
And I know, all you Android dorks, I know there's other shit that you could use to do this, like WhatsApp.
And I guess you could use Instagram, right?
Don't people use Instagram for video calls?
unidentified
Yep, yep.
joe rogan
This is not so fluid.
Now, if I wanted to FaceTime you, because you're a little Apple fanboy over there, you're a little bootlicker.
harland williams
Hell yeah, I am.
joe rogan
I could just FaceTime you, and it would work instantly.
See, he's got this invite.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
This takes so long.
It ruins the spontaneity about a fun FaceTime call.
A fun FaceTime call, you're at a concert, dude, what's up?
unidentified
Look where we are!
harland williams
And ironically, his initials are BS, because this is BS. This is bullshit.
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is like straight bullshit.
harland williams
Would you ever shoot your cell phone?
joe rogan
I've shot a bunch of them.
harland williams
Like with a high-powered rifle?
joe rogan
Yeah, we used to take them out to the range and shoot hard drives and cell phones.
harland williams
No!
joe rogan
That's a good way to get rid of stuff.
Boom!
300 Win Mag at 100 yards.
Ooh, it's amazing what it does to a cell phone.
unidentified
Ooh.
Yeah.
harland williams
Do you line it up in a scope?
joe rogan
Of course.
Yeah, I can't see that far.
harland williams
Wait, how far?
joe rogan
100 yards.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a video of it, I think.
Didn't Red Band have a video?
unidentified
Yeah, we made a video.
joe rogan
Yeah.
harland williams
Have you ever shot a machine gun?
Yes.
And?
Elation?
joe rogan
It's kind of interesting.
It's scary.
It says, I'm waiting to be let in.
This piece of shit.
harland williams
Yeah, forget it.
joe rogan
I'm going to tell him forget it.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
What is it doing here?
It says join.
Is it working?
Waiting for others.
No, this is horseshit.
It doesn't work.
I'm telling him forget it, brother.
unidentified
So.
joe rogan
Oh, bitch.
See, this is the thing that people are complaining about.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
That it forces people to think you're a fool for having an Android phone.
So you just go out and get an iPhone, and iPhones have dominated the market because of that.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, like, I think the numbers are with young kids, the numbers is like, it's something like 80-something percent of kids have iPhones.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So the kids that don't have iPhones, they get left out of iMessage group chats.
They get talked shit to.
Oh, what are you, poor?
You got an Android phone?
harland williams
Yeah, it's a class thing.
joe rogan
It's a class thing.
It's weird.
It's a weird thing.
I don't like it.
harland williams
What do you think the evolution of cell phones are?
Do you think it's like Neuralink, where we're just like, you know, we're thinking?
Are communicative thoughts?
Or what's your thought on that?
joe rogan
Yeah, 100%.
Really?
Yeah, that or a wearable.
Maybe something that you wear and it touches your temples.
harland williams
Right, because the concept that we're...
This goes back to what I was saying about flight.
Like, wait, you guys carried these boxes around and held them to your head?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I mean, just this alone was magic 100 years ago.
If you brought this 100 years back, people would think you're the craziest wizard.
Oh, yeah.
We have the answers to all questions.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they would say, oh my god, people in 2024 must be so smart.
And then he comes 2024 to like a MAGA convention.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You see Robert De Niro getting yelled at.
He's doing a fucking press conference.
He'll never leave.
Yeah.
harland williams
What was the point of that?
joe rogan
I don't know, but this is people in 2024. Whereas if you gave this to people in 1924, they'd be like, there's no way everybody will have the world solved.
Once they have these, oh my god, then they have all the information.
And then people will know exactly what everybody looks like.
There'll be no more catfishing.
harland williams
Still chaos.
joe rogan
And now, like, there's filters that you could use where I, from just a small snippet of your conversation on this podcast, I think they need about 30 seconds, 30 seconds of your voice, and then I could pretend to be you, like, just talk like this, and the audience would see you with what you're wearing, the way your hair is, everything, in your voice.
So everything that I say, like me saying this right now, It would be you saying this right now.
Your voice, your face, your body, everything looks like you.
All through AI. Whoa.
So there's no fucking way to know what anybody is saying that's not true.
And then there's a big issue right now with celebrities, especially women.
They're making porns with them.
harland williams
Oh, they're superimposing like a celebrity's face onto a...
joe rogan
They just face swap with AI. So this porn star is having sex with this person.
You face swap Natalie Portman or fucking Angelina Jolie.
And now you have a realistic looking sex tape of famous people getting fucked.
harland williams
So I could see Judge Judy plowing the pizza boy?
unidentified
Judge Judy.
joe rogan
Just sucking cock like it's going out of style.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It's a closing sale.
harland williams
Wow.
Imagine Judy Dent in a Pool Boy video.
joe rogan
Who's that one, Judy Dent?
harland williams
Remember from the British actress?
joe rogan
I do not.
harland williams
M from, what's her name?
jamie vernon
Dench.
harland williams
Judy Dench.
Bench?
jamie vernon
Dench.
joe rogan
Dench.
harland williams
Oh, there she is.
Imagine her and a pool boy.
joe rogan
Oh, she was hot when she was young.
harland williams
No, I mean now.
joe rogan
But look at her when she was young.
She's so pretty.
harland williams
Imagine her rubbing chlorine all over a pool boy.
joe rogan
Time is a ruthless bitch, isn't it?
harland williams
She puts the net over his head.
joe rogan
I'm trying not to imagine.
I'm trying to power through this.
She's 89 years old.
Give the woman her due.
Give her her respect, son of a bitch.
harland williams
How about I give her a check for cleaning the pool?
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Getting stuck in the dryer.
harland williams
Whoa.
joe rogan
I can't.
unidentified
Help me.
joe rogan
I can't get out.
Stuck in the dryer is my favorite.
The stuck in the dryer porns are my favorite because it's so ridiculous.
You can get out of the dryer.
harland williams
I love it when they pull their head out and there's a cling-free sheet on their head.
They got a mouthful of lint.
Looks like they've been blowing an elf.
unidentified
I can't believe I'm stuck in here.
joe rogan
Thank you for saving me.
harland williams
You know what?
I tried the dryer sex once, and I accidentally, I was so impassioned, I hit the tumble cycle.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
harland williams
And so imagine being in your woman, and she starts swirling around, and you're holding on like a horse, a rodeo horse.
It was some of the best sex I've ever had.
joe rogan
Did you stay still while she spun?
She spun.
harland williams
I just held on to her muffin top, and we swirled around like...
joe rogan
Did you get any concussions?
harland williams
She did.
Yeah, holy God.
joe rogan
A lot banging around in there.
harland williams
Oh, her head came out.
She looked like this cauliflower.
But I had one of the best orgasms I've ever had in my life.
joe rogan
That's a one-time deal, right?
unidentified
Not really.
joe rogan
It's hard to trick her into doing that again.
unidentified
Well...
harland williams
Some women like adventure.
unidentified
Yeah.
harland williams
What's the weirdest place you've ever done it?
joe rogan
Your house.
harland williams
That was you?
Wow.
I thought I heard that dog growling under the bed.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was doing it under the bed while you were on top of the bed to sleep.
harland williams
Okay, pre-marriage, because I don't want to get you in trouble.
Where was the wildest place?
joe rogan
We were only 15, remember?
harland williams
Yeah, where'd you do it?
Wildest place.
joe rogan
I guess in the woods.
When we were kids, there was nowhere to go.
So you go in the woods.
One time we got eaten up by mosquitoes, like our whole body.
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
Both of our bodies is covered in mosquitoes.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because we're so retarded.
We got naked in the woods.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
In July in Massachusetts.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're fucking 17. You don't know what the hell you're doing.
You're crazy.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wild kids.
harland williams
A lot in the woods?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, there was always...
Woods were always there.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
There was a place when you were kids, you could just go to the woods.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just bring a towel or a blanket or something.
harland williams
Did you love it?
joe rogan
Just go to the woods.
Yeah, but the woods are scary, because anything in the woods is scary.
Things in the woods become scary, even if they're not scary anywhere else.
Like a baby, a naked baby in the woods just staring at you.
It's fucking terrifying.
There's no other place where a naked baby is scary.
If you're walking down the street, you see a naked baby like, oh my god, whose baby is this?
Does anybody know whose baby is this?
Hey little guy, hold on.
And then you call the police, you pick up the baby.
In the woods, you're like, we're gonna die!
It's a fucking naked baby just staring at us.
harland williams
If it's hanging upside down from a red pine staring at you, that's pretty creepy.
joe rogan
Yeah, holding on by its feet.
harland williams
Like a bat.
joe rogan
If you saw a baby in the woods just staring at you, you'd be fucking terrified.
Any other place.
So the woods are automatically scary.
And you're scared that you're gonna get caught, so that's exciting.
harland williams
We're gonna get caught.
joe rogan
We're not going to get caught.
Don't worry.
We're going to go deep in the woods.
harland williams
What about in the city though?
You ever do it in a crazy place in the city?
joe rogan
No, not really.
You?
Sewers?
You ever go in the sewer?
You ever go in a manhole?
harland williams
I had a little fun on a Ferris wheel once.
joe rogan
Really?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whoa.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
We worried you were going to be at the bottom and wouldn't be able to stop?
harland williams
Well, that was cool.
We would time it so that when we came down, it was like hands off, and then we'd swirl.
So it was like kind of this really fun sort of start and stop thing.
And then one time, I'm not kidding, the guy sort of recognized me.
And we were having, the guy here, the carny who ran it, like, when I got on, I said, oh, dude, I love you, right?
And so we were having so much fun, but we weren't finished.
And so he was letting everyone off.
I said, just leave us on.
Just please, Jed.
He goes, okay, I got you.
And we just, like, finished swirling.
joe rogan
Wow.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Congratulations.
harland williams
Did you ever do it in the swirling teacups at Disneyland?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
Imagine if you did.
Boy, imagine throwing up right when you come.
It'd probably feel amazing.
Because even though throwing up sucks, it feels amazing when you have to throw up and you finally do.
harland williams
It's purging.
joe rogan
You know that feeling?
Last time I threw up was about a year ago.
And it was in the middle of the night.
I got up and I was like, I feel like I'm going to fucking puke.
I didn't feel good going to bed.
And in the middle of the night, I was like, whoa.
And I woke up and I went to the bathroom to pee or throw up.
And I was like, oh boy, they might both happen at the same time.
And I held to pee.
And then I peed right over my throw up.
I don't give a fuck, dude.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That's how wild that happened.
Mix and match.
I just pissed on the throw up.
harland williams
Just left it.
Surf and turf.
joe rogan
Just a little throw up.
harland williams
Did you do the thing when you barfed, like, right after you just curled up on the bathroom floor in the fetal position?
joe rogan
No, I never.
harland williams
And felt the cool tiles on your naked skin?
joe rogan
No, I've never done that.
harland williams
Me neither.
joe rogan
I do lay down on the bathroom floor sometimes when I get out of the sauna, though.
harland williams
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Because the tile floor, like, right when you get out of the sauna, it's 185 fucking degrees or whatever it is.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
I like to lay down that cool...
harland williams
Can you do the ice soaking?
joe rogan
Yeah, but I mean inside my house.
When I'm inside my house, I have a sauna inside my house.
I have one outside, too.
harland williams
I'd love to come over later and sit in it with you.
Come on over.
joe rogan
Let's hang out.
We got one here, too.
harland williams
Just a couple hours.
joe rogan
We got one here.
harland williams
I'd rather do the one at your house, I think.
Then we can have dinner, too.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
What, do you want to sleep over?
harland williams
I wouldn't mind.
joe rogan
I bet you do.
We're going to work out in the morning?
harland williams
No.
You can.
joe rogan
You're going to get the cold plunge?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Oh, come on.
harland williams
I'd sit in ice cream.
joe rogan
In a hot day, the cold plunge feels good for about five seconds.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
In a hot day, you get in there like, oh, fuck.
harland williams
I jumped in Lake Superior once, and it was one of those things, I probably stayed in about five minutes, and I've never experienced it, but when I got out for about 40 minutes after, I was shaking.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
harland williams
Like it was so cold.
joe rogan
Here's a question.
Lake Superior.
Massive lake.
Used to be a glacier, right?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
harland williams
Biggest of the Great Lakes.
joe rogan
Most of North America at one point in time, at least half of North America was covered by like a mile high sheet of ice.
harland williams
Okay.
joe rogan
Right?
So you have this time period after the ice age where all that melts.
unidentified
How the fuck do the fish get in there?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
How the fuck did those fish get in there?
harland williams
It's a mystery.
joe rogan
That's a really good question.
How did those lake trout get in there in the middle of the country?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
This big-ass, giant lake trout.
How the fuck did they get in there?
Did they just evolve once the water melted?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Were there seeds of the fish in the ice waiting to be melted?
For real, though.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
If that's all ice, the fish ain't getting in there.
How do they get in the middle of the lake?
The lake is fucking huge.
It's filled with fish.
harland williams
There is a possibility, it's an extreme one, but I'm trying to answer your question, that a predatory bird, like an osprey or a gull or some kind of fish-eating bird...
joe rogan
Flies from the ocean.
harland williams
...caught a fish in a local river or a nearby lake adjacent to...
joe rogan
Where are those nearby lakes if the entire continent is covered in ice?
harland williams
If the entire region was...
Well, have you ever been to a farm or anything like that, and sometimes they have those water troughs that they leave out for the cows, but they've been abandoned?
Or you come to a place where there's like a little puddle in a field or something, and somehow there's fish in it, and there's newts, and there's aquatic creatures, and you go, how did they get here?
joe rogan
Right.
harland williams
How did a newt get up an aluminum bin and get down into this ecosystem that's evolved here?
It's fascinating.
Your question kind of raises the questions for all of creation.
We can look at evolution, we can look at the dawn of time, but really, has it ever been answered?
joe rogan
Not totally.
I mean, they don't have an exact time-by-time, like day-by-day timeline, but do they have an answer to how fish got into the Great Lakes?
I can't believe I never asked that before.
I never even thought of it before.
A huge body of water, of course, there's fish in there.
But if the whole continent was covered 10,000 years ago in ice, what the fuck happened?
harland williams
Well, you might have to say, okay, somewhere there was a tributary that came from the ocean.
joe rogan
No, it would be from north.
It would be from up north.
harland williams
But where did the fish come from from there?
Hudson's Bay down into Superior, and the ocean fish...
joe rogan
Maybe they probably swim up river from the warm areas.
harland williams
Well, that's what salmon do when they spawn.
joe rogan
Yeah, I bet they swim up area.
That makes the most sense how they got in those lakes.
So those lakes must be connected to rivers, right?
harland williams
Oh yeah, they have to be.
They all are.
joe rogan
They probably swim up into the lake and then evolve to become like these big lake creatures like lake trouts.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because lake trout are fucking huge.
harland williams
Lake trout can get huge, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
People ice fish them.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's like a big way of fishing.
They're fucking crazy looking.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
So that thing, you don't really find them, I mean, in the southern areas, right?
Those are northern fish, aren't they?
harland williams
Lake trout?
joe rogan
Yeah.
harland williams
They're sort of a deep water, really cold fish.
Right.
So they don't necessarily have to be way up north.
joe rogan
Right.
So if they evolved, so these lakes and streams from the lower part of the country...
So if you're talking about New Mexico or something like that, some area that wasn't covered in ice, these things swim all the way up the river, and then they evolve in this lake to become bigger and to become adapted to the cold, deep water.
harland williams
Different species, yeah.
Crazy.
Dude, this is the mystery of where we are.
joe rogan
How about sturgeon?
harland williams
Sturgeon, they're like dinosaurs.
joe rogan
Where do those fuckers come from?
harland williams
These things are, what, a thousand pounds or more?
unidentified
Huge!
harland williams
Monsters.
joe rogan
They look like dinosaurs.
harland williams
Prehistoric, yeah.
joe rogan
They look prehistoric.
Have you ever seen that thing that's in the Amazon?
It has essentially bulletproof scales?
harland williams
Yeah, they're black.
What is it called?
joe rogan
Arapaia?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's up, Jimmy?
jamie vernon
The way the fish got into the Great Lakes is a way deeper story than I've uncovered so far, but the way salmon got there, specifically in the 60s.
joe rogan
People brought them there.
jamie vernon
Yeah, a guy had to bring them there.
joe rogan
Mmm, that makes sense.
jamie vernon
Fishing became very popular back then, so there was a lot of dead fish swimming on the shores for some reason.
I was trying to find out.
joe rogan
But were there any fish in there before the salmon?
jamie vernon
There had to have been.
As you were first asking it, I've seen this image recently.
The depth of Lake Superior specifically is very deep.
joe rogan
1,333 feet.
Fuck!
jamie vernon
So there could maybe have been something under there waiting for the ice to melt that came back up.
There's a bunch of stuff saying what he said too, where fish eggs get dropped by other birds and end up in the water.
joe rogan
I gotta think the river has a lot to do with it.
jamie vernon
So this is like, you can't go up Niagara Falls.
joe rogan
That's true.
harland williams
Wow, you can't.
joe rogan
Good point, Jamie.
That's a very good point.
How the fuck does it get past those?
God damn it.
harland williams
What a mystery!
joe rogan
Harlan, we've maybe cracked or uncovered one of the biggest mysteries in humankind.
And no one's talking about it, buddy.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't that incredible?
harland williams
Yeah, aren't you glad I showed up?
joe rogan
We busted it out.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
We're the ones.
harland williams
We're the ones.
joe rogan
Imagine tomorrow, like front page of every newspaper, Harlan Williams and Joe Rogan pose serious question as to how fish got in the Great Lakes.
And scientists are baffled.
And they all start talking to us, coming to us like, how did you guys realize that Fish had to get into the Great Lakes when the Great Lakes used to be covered in a glacier.
You guys are geniuses, untouched geniuses of nature.
And then maybe when Trump gets in for a second term, he appoints us to some sort of a nature advisory board and we give...
harland williams
We could be the master ichthologists.
joe rogan
Yes.
We could be the people telling everybody how to fix all these problems with animals and people and...
harland williams
But see, here's the other layer of this lasagna that we're not talking about.
You're talking about lake trout.
joe rogan
Right.
harland williams
How about that Lake Superior probably has 60, 70 different species of fish.
I've fished Lake Superior.
I've caught whitefish.
I've caught lake trout.
There's all kinds of fish in there.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
How'd they get in there?
harland williams
By the way, I used to work on the shores of Lake Superior.
You'd like this, because I know you like bears and you like guns.
Believe it or not, there's a place on the shores of Lake Superior called Nays Provincial Park, where it's such a desolate place.
And in World War II, they had a German Nazi prisoner of war camp on the shores.
joe rogan
Whoa.
harland williams
And the prisoners, it was so remote, no one could escape because they would have gone into the Canadian wilderness.
But the German soldiers captured somehow a black bear.
And trained it to box.
They put boxing gloves on it, and the Nazi soldiers, for entertainment purposes, would box with this black bear.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
harland williams
And they sunk a whole bunch of wartime vehicles in Lake Superior.
joe rogan
Whoa.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many bodies do you think are in Lake Superior?
harland williams
I don't know, but they might be preserved.
It's so cold.
joe rogan
That's what I'm thinking.
harland williams
If you went down.
joe rogan
Yeah.
If you dropped them all the way to the 1,300 feet just to...
Creepy skeleton with his 1970s jeans on, bell bottoms.
harland williams
He might not even be a skeleton.
That's what I'm saying.
It's so cold, he might still have flesh and just be like your baby in the woods.
Just like, hi, Joe.
Would you like a fresh cauliflower?
joe rogan
Don't you think something would eat him?
harland williams
Maybe more lamprey eels.
joe rogan
This thing's alive down there.
harland williams
Lampreys.
You ever seen a lamprey?
joe rogan
Aren't they a saltwater creature?
harland williams
No, freshwater.
They're in Lake Ontario.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
I know they cling to the bottom of sharks a lot, right?
They feed off of what the shark...
harland williams
Those are remoras.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
harland williams
Remoras, by the way...
joe rogan
Is lamprey similar to remoras?
harland williams
No, a lamprey is one of the more horrific...
It has a round...
It's like an eel with a round suction cup.
unidentified
With teeth.
harland williams
With circular buzzsaw teeth, it affixes itself on the fish and slowly sucks their interiors out.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
If that was in a movie, you would say, oh my God.
Well, God, that's not real.
That's like Dune, right?
That's like the worm in Dune.
harland williams
There is a movie, what's it called?
joe rogan
Let me see that one where that dude's holding it again.
That's so creepy.
harland williams
Yeah, the lamp rat.
joe rogan
Look at that fucking mouth, man.
harland williams
Well, what's amazing is it sucks your insides out and slowly eats you alive.
joe rogan
So it pulls the skin apart and then just sucks out all the organs?
harland williams
No, it literally creates a hole.
joe rogan
Look at it biting that dude's hand.
harland williams
Yeah, it puts a hole in the fish and just stays affixed to the same spot and eats its insides out.
joe rogan
They're older than dinosaurs, dude.
harland williams
Yeah, now they're in the Great Lakes.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
How the fuck did they get in there?
So that's one attached to a fish?
harland williams
Yeah, that's on a lake trout right there.
joe rogan
Can you show me that photo?
Oh, so that's the hole where it was...
harland williams
No, that's it hanging.
joe rogan
Invasive.
Oh, those are the ones hanging.
unidentified
Yeah.
harland williams
And then see the hole?
You can see a hole where one let go.
And they just...
joe rogan
Click on that link, please.
harland williams
Consume the fish.
joe rogan
Where are they from originally?
It says it's an invasive species.
harland williams
I don't know.
Maybe the Amazon?
joe rogan
Does it say?
Wow.
Right, right, but where are they from?
It says it's invasive.
It's a sea lamprey.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're in the Great Lakes.
The sea lamprey is invasive and it can cause problems in local ecosystems.
It's a lot to do with its size.
Sea lampreys are big compared to native species, so it comes from the ocean somehow or another.
And they can live in fresh water?
That's crazy.
harland williams
Well, apparently the girl, I think her name's Maria Bell, was the first person to ever swim across Lake Ontario.
And she had to swim through schools of those, apparently, when she swam across Lake Ontario.
joe rogan
Oh my god, imagine those little fuckers grabbing ahold of your asshole.
harland williams
Yeah, they're the perfect—they almost got asshole suckers for mouths.
joe rogan
Yeah.
harland williams
Like, they're perfect.
I hate to see Dimitri around one of those.
joe rogan
So in the 1950s, the U.S. and Canada teamed up for population control measures, and they have worked several strategies, including traps to capture adult lampreys, lampricides, poison, target seed lamprey larvae, and installing barriers are a few tactics to use.
Look at that.
What does it say?
That's a good thing.
Left multiple IC lampreys could significantly damage to the region's $7 billion fishing industry.
Huh.
Lampreys.
Yeah.
Creepy little fuckers.
harland williams
Yeah.
And then the Remora...
joe rogan
Look how weird that thing is.
harland williams
The Remora has a suction cup on its head, so the top of its head is a suction cup.
joe rogan
Look at that.
harland williams
And I was sexually assaulted in Florida.
I had been eating a bacon sandwich and spilled some on my lap and went swimming, and that thing sucked me for about an hour and a half.
joe rogan
Look at the top of his head.
harland williams
Well, someone's not paying attention.
joe rogan
I'm paying attention.
harland williams
Well, I had a sexual assault and you glazed right over it.
joe rogan
I didn't believe you.
harland williams
Well, it's true.
joe rogan
It lasted too long.
harland williams
I can show you the suck mark.
joe rogan
If you said for like 30 seconds, I would have said, oh my God, that thing clung to his leg for 30 seconds.
harland williams
But maybe I wanted to last.
Remember, you're talking to the dryer sex guy here.
joe rogan
Right, the guy with the baby inside of him.
harland williams
Do you know that the Suckerfish...
joe rogan
What does it say?
Suckerfish latches to swimmer?
Whoa.
harland williams
There you go.
unidentified
Look at her.
joe rogan
She's hot.
harland williams
But you know, the Spanish fishermen, you know, there was a time when you could eat sea turtles.
joe rogan
Right.
harland williams
And the remora will swim to whatever's moving, because they feed off of the...
They're like parasitic fish.
When the shark eats, they'll catch all the scraps.
unidentified
Right.
harland williams
So Spanish fishermen, to their ingenuity, they used to eat sea turtles, and when they'd catch a remora, they'd keep it alive in the boat, and when they saw a sea turtle, they'd put it on their line, throw it in the water, the remoras would go to the sea turtles, stick on the shell, and they'd reel in sea turtles.
joe rogan
Really?
harland williams
Used to be able to eat them, yeah.
joe rogan
That's how they get it?
No, you're making this up.
harland williams
No, that's for real.
This was in the past.
joe rogan
They clung to the sea turtle, and that's how they pulled it.
So they used it like a magnet to get sea turtles.
unidentified
Right, yeah.
harland williams
You saw the size of the sucker on its head, right?
So it would stick to the sea turtle, and then they could, in essence, pull in the...
Yeah, see, there's one.
unidentified
Wow.
harland williams
Yeah, so if you want to go fishing for sea turtles later, let me know.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
harland williams
Yeah.
Some good sucking going on in the ocean.
joe rogan
They used to take the sea turtles and flip them on their back and put them in the bottom of the ship.
And then when they wanted to eat one, they just pick it up.
Because when you flip them on their back, they can't turn over, so they just lay there.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they could stay alive for a long time without food or water.
harland williams
Yeah, because they're air breathers.
joe rogan
Yeah, so you just leave them in there until you want to cook one.
harland williams
Yeah, throw a leave over it.
joe rogan
Pick it up.
harland williams
It's like fresh food.
joe rogan
I've seen a bunch of videos of people cooking and eating sea turtles in other countries.
Because there's some cooking show or fishing show where some guy went with them, and you're not allowed to do it, but you can be there while people are doing it.
If you're an American, you're not allowed to kill a sea turtle.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
But in some parts of the world, like their local culture...
You know, like in some places...
harland williams
Eskimos.
joe rogan
Yeah, Inuits are allowed to eat whale.
harland williams
They can kill whale.
unidentified
Yeah.
harland williams
They can kill walrus.
joe rogan
Seals, all that stuff.
So these people are allowed to kill sea turtles.
But there's something really disturbing about watching a sea turtle get hacked apart.
harland williams
Yeah, because they're so gentle.
joe rogan
I know, and they're so like, what is happening to me?
harland williams
Yeah, they're just like little dummies swimming around.
joe rogan
They're not like a fish.
No.
Fish is just like, their eyes don't move that good.
They just move around a little.
You're so removed from me, I'm going to cut your head off and serve you sushi.
harland williams
They're so sweet.
I was just in the Galapagos Island swimming underwater with sea turtles holding their flippers.
joe rogan
Also...
harland williams
So sweet.
joe rogan
That's cute.
Also, sea turtles...
harland williams
Trying to seem tough, but...
joe rogan
Turtles are always good guys.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
In movies, like Ninja Turtles, they're the good guys.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
Turtles are like your friend.
harland williams
Yeah, they're buddies.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're your wise pal.
The turtles are never cunts.
It's never really a cunty turtle.
In like movie depictions.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Can you think of a cunty turtle?
harland williams
Uh...
joe rogan
God.
Remember that giant turtle that fought Godzilla?
And the fire would come out of his shell.
harland williams
There you go.
There's your example.
unidentified
He would go fly.
joe rogan
He would spin around.
unidentified
What was his name again?
harland williams
Kanti?
joe rogan
No.
I don't think so.
harland williams
Wow.
joe rogan
But turtles, that's one of those things that happens with people.
That's why people love bears.
Because you have teddy bears.
You have teddy bears, and you've got Yogi, and only you can prevent forest fires, all that stuff.
Like, oh, bears are your friends.
They're sweet.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's what a great PR campaign these murderous assassins have pulled off.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Getting us to like reintroduce them into areas where people are like, we're your friends!
They're not.
They're monsters.
Big ass monsters.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
With a good PR campaign.
harland williams
Polar bears will eat you faster than they'll do anything else.
joe rogan
Here's a fact.
Owls are dumb.
harland williams
I thought they were wise.
joe rogan
I did, too.
I talked to a woman who trains birds, and she had all these different birds.
She had hawks and paragon falcons and all that.
She's like, owls are the dumbest.
There's only one animal dumber than them.
That's one of those big animals, one of those big birds, rather, that's dumber than them.
One of them big birds from Australia.
What are those things called?
harland williams
Emu?
joe rogan
That's it.
That one's dumber.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
That's the only animal that's dumber than an owl.
She's like, owls are so dumb.
harland williams
I thought they were wise.
I had one booing outside of my house about two weeks ago, keeping me awake all night.
And I'm like, how do you deal with the wisest of all the birds, right?
So I go outside, I throw a Rubik's Cube up into the tree.
It comes back 30 seconds later, perfectly done.
So I don't think they're that dumb.
Wow.
joe rogan
Maybe you've got an autistic kid living in your tree.
unidentified
Yeah.
harland williams
Johnny!
I'm trying to sleep!
Come down, Johnny!
joe rogan
He's up there counting out loud.
harland williams
So check this out, Joe.
joe rogan
He's up there doing log math in his head.
harland williams
He's up there eating celery.
unidentified
5,000 divided by 16. A beautiful mind.
joe rogan
He throws it back to you.
He keeps going on with his math.
harland williams
I did do a movie once where I played a wizard and I had a Eurasian eagle owl.
I think they're the biggest of all the owls.
And they trained it to land on my arm on the big leather glove.
And I'd never worked with owls up close like that.
And the trainer, he was sitting like this with his talons.
And the trainer said, grab the back talon and pull it.
And I said, well, I don't want to hurt the thing.
He said, no, pull it.
So I grabbed the back, and I gave it a tug, and it didn't move.
And he goes, no, pull it as hard as you can.
And these are these big claws.
I grab it.
I could not move it.
And he goes, this is what an owl's death grip feels like.
When it clanks onto something, it's over.
I could not believe the strength in that talon.
It was crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, they're raptors.
harland williams
Yeah.
They're just wild.
joe rogan
They're claws.
When you see an eagle's claw, when they give you a close-up, it's like a human hand, but with spears at the tip of the fingers.
harland williams
But I didn't understand the strength of them.
So strong.
joe rogan
Much stronger than your hands.
harland williams
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, imagine what they do when they just snatch a salmon out of the water and fly away with it.
Look at those things, man.
That's insane.
I mean, that is straight-up dinosaur tools.
Look at that fucking crate.
harland williams
It's crazy.
joe rogan
And look at all the texture to it, all the muscles and ten.
What a monstrous...
harland williams
And way more powerful than you would think just by looking at it.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
harland williams
I actually...
If you look at the claws of the osprey...
joe rogan
Look at that owl.
harland williams
Those are fake.
joe rogan
He's got two hands, bro.
That's real.
harland williams
No, those are...
joe rogan
No, that's the wise owl.
That's the real wise owl.
harland williams
That can't be.
I don't think those are real.
joe rogan
He reads books with those.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's up there in the tree reading books.
jamie vernon
I didn't even see the problem with it at first.
I was like, what's wrong with it?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Welcome to the internet.
But I was so shocked that owls are dumb.
harland williams
Yeah, it's really dumb.
unidentified
Whoa!
joe rogan
Look at those claws.
harland williams
Is that the Eurasian eagle owl?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Oh my god, the great horned owl.
Look at those things.
That's so amazing.
harland williams
That's what took my chihuahua.
joe rogan
Did it really?
harland williams
Yeah, I had a chihuahua and one of those bastards.
Because they're big too.
joe rogan
Oh, they're big.
harland williams
Those are fairly big.
joe rogan
They get a lot of cats.
harland williams
Imagine my little chihuahua getting picked apart by that.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
I have a friend, and he was telling, I think Steve Ranello was telling us on the podcast, was he?
About the, like, they found this one owl's nest, and it was filled with, like, cats' little collars.
harland williams
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's, like, 30 different cat collars.
Oh, yeah.
Something like that.
harland williams
Yeah, that's...
joe rogan
You're like, what the fuck, man?
They're just snatching cats out of people's backyards.
harland williams
Tabby!
joe rogan
Time for dinner.
harland williams
Gone.
joe rogan
Gone.
Not even the sound.
harland williams
If you hear this, if you hear...
joe rogan
You ever heard the difference between the sound an owl makes when it flies?
They've done these...
Where they record the noise.
harland williams
There is no sound.
joe rogan
It's insane.
harland williams
It's silent.
joe rogan
When you see a hawk do it or an eagle do it, there's all this different birds have noise and then the owl makes no fucking noise.
harland williams
The aerodynamics of an owl, they're like stealth bombers.
Just silent.
joe rogan
You know, the other wild one is tuna.
When tuna go through the water, they can go through the water to grab someone and grab something, and they don't even make a ripple.
Like when they go over the top of the water.
Really?
It's crazy.
I watched video of it.
It's bizarre.
harland williams
Wait, when they jump?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, when they're going through the top of the water.
harland williams
Oh, I see.
joe rogan
They just slide through it like a knife.
harland williams
Like a knife, yeah.
joe rogan
So that's a hawk.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Now watch the owl.
unidentified
It's Kenza's turn.
Shh.
Shh.
joe rogan
Nothing.
harland williams
Silent.
joe rogan
Silent.
Silent nighttime killer.
Dumb as shit.
Big stupid head with giant eyes.
Dumb as shit.
Just fucking killing everything again.
harland williams
They're not that dumb.
They've got to be smarter than a woodpecker.
joe rogan
I think woodpeckers are way smarter.
harland williams
Really?
joe rogan
I don't know.
harland williams
What about a blue heron?
joe rogan
I don't think you can train a woodpecker.
This lady probably has a limited database to work with.
Everything she's got on her arm is like a raptor, except for the owl.
The falcons, she said, are the hardest.
Hawks and falcons, she goes, they just kill everything.
You let them go, they just go find things.
They'll kill squirrels.
They just can't stop killing.
She goes, these things, they're killing machines.
She goes, I let them go, they just find things and kill it immediately.
Find a bird, kill it.
Fly up to the bird, kill it.
They come back to her, but they just go kill things first.
harland williams
Oh, this is a trained falcon.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're all trained.
But it doesn't matter.
Like, if you let a hawk go, hawks just go find something to kill.
Like, what do I got to kill?
They just fly around, like, oh, bird!
Boom, dead.
They're not even trying to eat it.
Squirrel, fuck you!
Bam!
Kill that squirrel.
harland williams
So sport killing.
joe rogan
Sport killing.
harland williams
Really?
joe rogan
They're just designed to kill.
harland williams
Because not a lot of animals do that.
joe rogan
Some animals can't help themselves.
harland williams
Lions do it to hyenas.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I bet that lion did it to that lady in that car.
I bet she wasn't eating it.
I bet that was a little bit of sport.
harland williams
There's another old video where some Danish guy's going through a lion safari with his wife and kids, and he got out with his camera, and literally the kids and the wife, you see them in the car going berserk, and his legs are kicking in the air, and the lion just came and devoured him right in front of the wife and kids.
Like, the idiot got out.
joe rogan
Some people are just fucking stupid, man.
That's Darwin, right?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the whole idea.
It's like, those people are not supposed to make it.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You're not supposed to make it.
harland williams
But they've already bred.
joe rogan
That's the problem.
At least the kid has the benefit of seeing his dad get, like, my dad was so dumb.
Like, you know, you can have a dumb dad and get through things and be a different person than your dad was.
And if you're a dumb kid and your dad is dumb as shit, your dad gets out and gets eaten by a lion in front of you, that has a profound effect.
harland williams
I gotta be honest though.
joe rogan
Not even saying that kid's dumb.
Maybe the kid's a genius.
You could have a genius kid, be stupid.
harland williams
I gotta be honest though, Joe, in this world we live in where humans expire primarily in a hospital bed or at home around their loved ones with a disease, with whatever, cancer.
Right.
I really would rather die like jumping a lion.
Like, you know, at the family function, how'd he die?
He attacked a lion.
joe rogan
He went out on his shield.
harland williams
Huh?
joe rogan
Yeah, you went out on your shield.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
harland williams
Like, I want to noble the death of, like, a warrior, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
harland williams
And going back to that story, this is going to sound ridiculous.
joe rogan
No way.
harland williams
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
harland williams
Going back to the story where I told you I saw the lion when my hand was shaking, there was that terrified part of me.
This is for real.
There were two male lions, no one else in the middle of Africa.
Part of me wanted to jump out of the truck and just run at the lion and attack it, knowing that I'd die, but knowing that it would be the most glorious death Of a man with courage or stupidity,
but at least I would die in a fashion where in the real world, organic, nature, man versus beast, beast versus beast, because I don't like to think of us as superior to other creatures, but that actually popped into my head.
I thought, I don't want to expire in the leukemia ward.
I don't want to be in hospice.
I've lived a good life, so imagine I just run at a lion.
In that last moment, I get to see the shock in its face of a human daring to jump on it and grab its...
And they would have been on me in a second, but I don't know.
Is that weird?
joe rogan
No.
harland williams
Like, have you ever thought how you want to die?
joe rogan
Well, if you're going to die, especially if you're older and you know it's soon, that's a good way to go.
unidentified
What are you saying?
joe rogan
Just run at that lion next time.
harland williams
Have you ever thought about that?
unidentified
No.
harland williams
Would you be fine just expiring in a hospital bed?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's better than being torn apart in front of your family.
harland williams
Yeah.
I'm not saying do it in front of your family.
joe rogan
What about the other people that are there with you?
harland williams
No, not in front of your family, but if you just have that one-on-one moment.
joe rogan
Someone's got to take you to the line, right?
harland williams
Let's say you're out hunting a grizz, and one day you just go, you know what?
You put the rifle down, and you just run at him and go, this is how I want to go.
Punching a grizz in the face, knowing you're going to die, but you go out in that...
That wild...
joe rogan
Punching a grizz in the face is like an ant punching you.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like being attacked by a kitten with no claws.
harland williams
It is!
But you get that moment of being a man, of feeling that power.
joe rogan
No.
harland williams
You'd rather just...
joe rogan
That's a stupid way to die.
harland williams
...have a heart attack.
joe rogan
Yeah.
harland williams
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a stupid way to die.
unidentified
Well...
joe rogan
I mean, it's one thing if you get attacked by an animal when you're out in the woods.
harland williams
Right.
joe rogan
And it's like, hey, this is the price you pay for being in nature.
harland williams
But see, that's the thing.
They attack us.
Why can't we attack them now?
Flip it around.
joe rogan
Okay.
harland williams
I'd like to.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can.
Okay, good.
harland williams
Maybe I'm even inviting you to come with me to do it.
joe rogan
If you ever find out that you're going to die and that's how you want to go, I'll go.
harland williams
You'd come with me?
joe rogan
Yeah, definitely.
I'll bring a rifle in case you change your mind.
As you're running, like, Joe, I changed my mind!
Boom!
I'll have my crosshairs on him.
harland williams
You wouldn't run to the animal with me?
joe rogan
No.
No, I'll be there to watch.
If you want me to.
harland williams
Yeah, I'd love that.
joe rogan
Okay.
It'll be a special moment we share.
harland williams
Love sharing.
joe rogan
I'll be there when you pass over into the next stage of life.
But you've got to do me a favor.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
If, like, heaven's real, if, like, there is an afterlife, or whatever it is, just let me know.
harland williams
Oh, I would.
joe rogan
Come back and tell me.
Come in a dream.
Tell me in a dream.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Have you had a dream of someone who died, and it seemed, like, super realistic?
unidentified
Ooh.
harland williams
Yes!
I think I have.
joe rogan
What was it?
harland williams
It might have been my dad.
joe rogan
Ooh.
harland williams
Yeah, I just remember being really sad like he's gone and there was like this wave of emptiness.
Because my mother did die.
And are your parents still with us?
joe rogan
Yes.
harland williams
So when my mother died, like this hole formed in my heart.
Like it literally felt like a hole.
And it can't close.
Like I can come to peace with it.
I can...
I can be at harmony with the fact that she's gone, and I wasn't even super close with my mom, but the hole that got left in my heart, it's like, ooh, if I focus on it, I can feel it immediately.
And it's just that connection to the mother, the person that brought you into this world, you know, is really, really powerful.
joe rogan
And so in the dream, what happened with your dad?
harland williams
I can't remember.
It's foggy.
What I remember more than the actual moment is that feeling, that feeling of emptiness, that, oh, they're gone, you know, just gone forever.
And it was really sort of this sad, crushing feeling on my soul.
It's powerful.
joe rogan
I had a dream after Phil Hartman died.
And it wasn't that long after his death.
And in the dream, I ran into him, and it was very realistic.
Because we were outside, and he had one of those folding lawn chairs, and it was on the ground.
And I said, I said, hello?
And he was explaining to me that him and his wife had worked it out.
This is after his wife killed him.
harland williams
You were right there, too, right?
joe rogan
I wasn't there when it happened.
harland williams
No, but you were working the show when it happened, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Jesus.
And he laughed about it, like, yeah, we had a lot to work through, but we're good now.
Something along those lines.
And then he sat down in the lawn chair and fell backwards, like it stumbled backwards.
And then I looked and he was gone.
It was really weird.
And then I realized it was a dream.
And then I woke up.
But I remember thinking, like, in the moment, like, that seems so realistic.
Like, he was, like, telling me he's okay.
Because I tried to get him to divorce that lady a bunch of times while I was working with him.
Yeah, because they would fight, like, crazy fights, where he would just disappear for a couple...
He would leave the house, and he was telling me he wanted to get divorced, but he did want the lawyers to take a third.
Because it's like...
harland williams
I was like, just kidding.
A third?
How about a half?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
It's two-thirds.
So the lawyer takes a third.
This is what he was telling me.
He's like, I go, just give her half.
You're always going to make money.
Just get out.
Be free.
And he was terrified of that.
He was terrified of leaving.
And so when he finally decided to leave, she murdered him in his sleep.
She shot him and then she shot herself.
And my friend was actually, my friend who was a cop, was actually there when she shot herself.
harland williams
Oh, so that happened when the police approached the house.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
harland williams
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, the police broke into the house to try to save the kids and she shot herself.
The kids ran away from their mom, he told me.
I hadn't done stand-up in two weeks after the murder.
I just couldn't imagine anything being funny.
And then I decided two weeks later to try to go to the comedy store.
So I'm at the gas station.
And while I was at the gas station, my friend, who was a cop, was there.
And I was like, hey, what's up?
How you doing?
He goes, hey, how you doing?
You good?
And I go, yeah.
He goes, you know, I was there.
I go, really?
And then he told me the whole story about how he was there and they saw the mom in the bathroom with the gun.
And the kids ran away from the mom when the cops broke down the door.
Because the cops saw her in the bathroom with the gun.
Yeah.
A lot of times in murder suicides the mother will kill her children.
harland williams
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
Yeah, and so they were she was in there with the gun talking to the kids and the kids freaked out And then when they broke down the front door the kids ran away from the mom and she just blew her brains out The only good side is they didn't see her do that, I'm guessing.
I'm hoping they didn't see that.
There's no good side.
I mean, there's no good side.
You lose your mother and your father in a murder homicide in one night, and you're like, what?
I mean, there's no good side to that.
harland williams
With your intuition, like, obviously you were advising Phil to get away.
joe rogan
Yeah.
harland williams
Was there ever a foresight in your head that she would murder him?
joe rogan
No.
harland williams
Wow.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no.
harland williams
Isn't that funny how we just don't know people?
joe rogan
First of all, she was also on Zoloft and cocaine.
And the family won some sort of a settlement with Zoloft.
Not much, but...
There's instances where people mix Zoloft with cocaine that they have psychotic reactions.
I suspect that's what was going on.
They hated each other.
harland williams
Really?
joe rogan
They loved each other and they hated each other.
It was one of those deals.
She would insult him publicly.
It was rough, man.
I was just saying...
You're a great guy.
You don't need to be going through this.
You need to get divorced and share custody of your kids and try to set an example.
You can't do this.
The fighting was so bad.
He hated it.
He didn't want to be married to her.
He was stuck.
And I told him, like, you can't just stay stuck and just let these circumstances overcome your existence.
harland williams
Yeah, no matter how hard it is, you have to push through.
joe rogan
So we had a break.
We were done filming for a bit until we went back for the next season.
And one day I woke up and someone called me and told me.
And then I saw it on the news and it was just like, what?
And then everybody was calling everybody and we all got together.
We were like, fuck.
It's just so hard to believe.
It doesn't make sense.
It's like, how?
harland williams
Was he your buddy?
Like, were you friends with him off set?
Like, did you chum around and stuff?
joe rogan
Yeah, he actually took me up in his plane once to find where I wound up buying a house.
Because he goes, one of the cool things about flying is, like, I can show you.
Because he had gotten his pilot license while we were on the show together.
Yeah.
And so he was always practicing that he bought one of these single-engine planes.
It was pretty cool.
And so he said, do you want to come out for a flight?
I'll show you around.
I'm like, yeah, let's do it.
And so we flew around the valley and he showed me all these different areas.
He was a great guy, man.
Sweet, sweet guy.
harland williams
Given the turmoil in his relationship, were you privy to the knowledge that they had a gun in the house?
joe rogan
No, no.
harland williams
Because when you're going through something bad with a spouse, I don't think it's good having a gun in the house.
Because someone could flick like that, you know?
joe rogan
I guess.
Yeah, that's a horrible thing to think.
But I don't even know whose gun it was.
I don't know anything.
I don't know if it was her gun.
I don't know if I knew about the gun.
I don't know.
harland williams
Damn.
joe rogan
But the dream was so strange because the dream was like him letting me know he's fine.
He was Phil.
He was laughing.
He made some sort of a joke about his wife killing him.
And we got through that now.
And then he sat down on the lawn chair and fell backwards.
It slipped back.
And I think I looked down at the ground and I looked at him and he was gone.
And then I was like, oh, this is a dream.
And then I woke up.
harland williams
Did you feel like closure to a degree?
joe rogan
Yeah, weirdly, weirdly.
It felt like it was him letting me know not to freak out about it.
harland williams
Yeah, like let it go.
joe rogan
Yeah.
harland williams
Dude.
joe rogan
But you're always going to freak out about it.
You freak out about the kids.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
The kids is a big one.
You just can't imagine what it'd be like if that was you, if you were a kid.
And then all of a sudden your mom shoots your dad and then shoots herself.
And then it's public.
It's not just...
It's not just that it's this thing that you have to deal with.
It's the thing that everybody wants to talk to you about, because the whole world knows about it, because he was a famous guy.
harland williams
Yeah.
Well, not only famous, but what really kind of was hard to get your head around.
Is you have this guy who's an extreme comedy force, right?
And you don't think of joyous sort of comedy, people that elicit laughter and violence like that.
And so the fact here was this funny sort of ha-ha-ha guy that brought so much laughter, and then that kind of ending, it's like it just doesn't fit.
joe rogan
But not only that, it's like, when does the wife kill the husband with a gun?
How often is that?
That's so rare.
harland williams
An execution style in the sleep.
joe rogan
While they're sleeping.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
harland williams
What must have been going through her head, too?
joe rogan
Zoloft and cocaine.
harland williams
Yeah.
What's Zoloft?
joe rogan
It's an antidepressant, SSRI. Oh.
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Google the results of the side effects of mixing Zoloft with cocaine.
I think there's a few psychiatric medications that if you mix with alcohol or if you mix with cocaine, you get really crazy behavior.
Like, people just go off the fucking rails.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know even how much control they have.
I don't know what that feels like.
Like, what does that feel like when you're on Zoloft and cocaine?
You might be fucking a raving maniac.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
harland williams
Just that maniac.
joe rogan
Anything on that?
harland williams
Zoloft.
joe rogan
Yeah.
harland williams
Like, just that name sounds like it's crazy time.
joe rogan
Sounds like it's from the Star Trek.
harland williams
Yeah, it sounds like one of the planets they landed on, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, Zoloft is not comforting.
harland williams
The Zolofts are here.
joe rogan
I wonder if they named it that to make it seem like it's super advanced.
Like, you're gonna take Zoloft.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, it's fucking super advanced.
harland williams
It just sounds like nutty time.
joe rogan
That's gonna fix it.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's gonna fix it.
Look, if there was a legitimate happy pill that worked like that with everybody, that gave you sort of like a low dose of MDMA all throughout the day, it's probably a good thing for everybody.
As long as there's no side effects.
harland williams
I'm mixed on that.
joe rogan
Yeah?
harland williams
Because I think we were bioengineered.
To have what we have.
On a daily basis, if you start tinkering with what the structure was, how it was already the architecture of the structure, I feel like it's not maybe necessarily a good thing.
joe rogan
Taking cocaine and antidepressants can interfere with your medication's ability to balance the levels of neurotransmitters in your brain, making them ineffective and possibly worsening your symptoms.
Essentially, antidepressants are meant to correct any chemical imbalances that may contribute to depression such as low serotonin.
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Additionally, taking cocaine with other drugs also increases the individual's risk of addiction.
Chronic users often require cocaine addiction treatment and treatment for cocaine withdrawal symptoms to recover.
Is there mixing Zoloft and cocaine psychotic behavior?
Google that.
harland williams
Oh, there's gotta be.
joe rogan
Because I think that was something that, like, in limited numbers of people, they observed some, like, craziness.
harland williams
Yeah.
That's...
Poor guy, man.
Sorry, dude.
That's a traumatic story.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a rough story.
But, you know, it happened 25 years ago or whatever it was.
harland williams
Still, it's just like...
joe rogan
Crazy.
Crazy to believe.
It's hard to believe.
You know, it's hard to believe that someone could do that to someone that they're married to, that they have children with, that they love, supposedly.
That you would lose your mind that far that you would shoot them in the sleep.
It's fucking...
harland williams
Well, it's the Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison from The Doors, Janis Joplin syndrome.
They were cut down.
They left us with who knows what else to offer us.
So many untold jokes, stories, moments.
Phil Hartman was obviously multi-talented as an actor, too.
joe rogan
He was an artist as well.
He did album covers.
harland williams
He did a bunch of album covers.
To see what would still come.
Because I think, didn't he get killed in his late 30s?
joe rogan
No, he was in his 40s. 40s.
I don't think he even made it onto Saturday Night Live until he was in his late 30s.
Wow.
The thing of him is he...
Yeah.
He was fucking great on news radio too.
Such a good at comedic actor.
So funny, man.
So good at delivering a line.
Like, oh, such a professional.
Yeah.
And it was interesting because he came over from Saturday Night Live, which is like this really competitive, like shitty environment.
They snipe at each other and do horrible things to each other behind the scenes.
harland williams
They do?
joe rogan
Yeah, he told me it was terrible.
And so when he came to news radio, to the sitcom, which was the opposite, everybody was...
Very loose.
Everybody was silly.
We'd all go out drinking together.
It was a good time.
There wasn't any weird shittiness.
harland williams
Oh, good.
joe rogan
And he had to adjust.
So he would tell me about it.
He used to like to smoke a little weed.
So I'd hang out with him.
This was back when I wasn't smoking weed.
And he'd smoke a little weed.
We'd talk about stuff.
He hated being there.
It was just all backstabbers.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've heard that story at SNL. Yeah, they'll steal your ideas for your sketches, and Jim Brewer had horrible stories about that, where he had sketch ideas, and he'd put them in this spreadsheet, and they could read the spreadsheet of what you were going to do the sketches on.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Other senior writers would steal those sketches and say, we're doing something on that.
And just like, fuck you, man.
It was just like this constant battle.
And he said he had it with cast members, he had it with writers.
And so Phil was like, ugh.
harland williams
That's not conducive for comedy.
It's the worst.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's the worst for comedy.
But that's like that...
Really weak man, backstabbing shit when they get power.
That happens when they have too much power unchecked and no one's watching them and they get away with things like stealing younger writers' premises and it's all dog-eat-dog.
Everybody's just trying to get to the top.
That's always been a part of stand-up.
I've always been a part of comedies, like people stealing people's bits and the famous person steals them and the unfamous person's fucked and destroys their lives.
We've seen it happen before.
harland williams
Has anyone ripped you off ever?
joe rogan
Yeah, sure.
A bunch of times.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've confronted people and they told me they wouldn't do it again.
Then I heard they were doing it again.
Like there's certain people that have always been buccaneers.
They've always been joke buccaneers.
You know, it's a problem.
And you know, they don't have any friends, those people.
They sometimes have like...
Like a vampire familiar opening act.
So this opening act will go with them and they'll steal bits from them too.
There was a bunch of guys that got away with that before the internet rolled around.
There was a predatory type of comedian that would just poach other people's premises and sort of rework them.
They didn't have any...
There was nothing that they did that was creative on their own.
Everything was derivative of somebody else's work.
Everything.
harland williams
I always heard, and I'm sure he could do anything he wanted on his own volition, but I had always heard stories that Robin Williams was that guy.
Did you ever hear anything about that?
joe rogan
Yeah, I heard a lot of stories that he was that guy.
Yeah, and I think Robin Williams was so, like, part of that manic sort of style.
It's like this constant need to have a bit about anything that you're talking about ever.
Killing I think was more important and filling that hole inside of him was more important than anything.
And so he would just do other people's stuff if he didn't have anything to say.
harland williams
Did he get confronted by other comedians?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
There's a lot of stories.
Kinnison got mad at him.
harland williams
Oh, really?
He stole from Kinnison?
joe rogan
Yeah, he stole from everybody.
He stole from a lot of people.
harland williams
So it is true.
I'd always heard that.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's true.
If you ask any of those comics from back then, there's always instances of Robin going on a talk show and doing your bit or going on this and doing your bit.
Yeah.
Doing your bit at a club.
Yeah.
harland williams
With him, do you think it was because he was just so spontaneous, he would just like puke it out?
joe rogan
There's no way.
I think he wanted to kill more than he wanted to be ethical.
harland williams
So at any cost, I will kill.
unidentified
Yeah, at any cost.
joe rogan
And especially back then when no one was really watching you other than comedians.
Like even up into the 2000s, like the Mencia thing happened in 2007, right?
Yeah.
They were more willing to side with someone who they thought was more profitable than the truth.
Than the truth about what is this person doing and how are they getting this material?
This is pretty clear that they're plagiarizing.
And if it's any other form of entertainment, like music, they'll bring you to court and you lose.
And then all the money from those songs It has to come to the original person because you copied their song.
That's a classic thing.
Happens in literature all the time.
That woman who was the president of Harvard got busted plagiarizing.
She's not a president of Harvard anymore.
There's consequences always, but in comedy, It's always been self-policed.
It's a weird thing, that thing that people do, where they try to pawn off other people's bits as their own.
It's a vampire thing, because you're around all these creative people, and you're just stealing a little bit from this guy and a little bit from that guy, and people are scared of you.
harland williams
Did you ever put a guy up against the wall?
joe rogan
No, I didn't have to do that.
harland williams
How come?
joe rogan
Because I just said things.
harland williams
Like you just verbally confronted...
joe rogan
I just said, hey, man, don't do my fucking material anymore.
You know that's my material.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just like that.
And, you know, they're probably still going to do it, unless you want to hurt them.
But it's like, the thing about those people is they always get caught, and when they get caught, everything after that sucks.
This is how you know if a thief is legitimately a thief.
If they're being unjustly accused, they're always going to come up with new material.
They're always going to be creative.
They're always going to have new great jokes because they're actually writing and working on it.
But if it's true, what you see is an initial special or something or a few things they do that are really funny.
And then you see this massive drop-off in the concepts that they talk about, the irony that they discover.
They don't have any legitimate points where you're like, wow, that is crazy.
There's none of that.
It all goes away.
And it becomes almost like a person doing an impression of the original successful person.
Because they have no creativity.
And now they're exposed.
So now they have to be really careful.
So you see that with every thief.
You see a couple early, like, big specials or something, and then you see massive drop-off and terrible performances after that.
It's because they're not real.
harland williams
Yeah, I think I can think of a few.
joe rogan
They're parasites.
That's what they are.
They're vampires.
And they're stealing from artists.
And they're tolerated a lot of times because they're very successful.
And one of the creepy things they do is they start hiring people to work for them.
Like they'll have a television show or something, and they'll hire legitimate people to work for them.
And those people now become like confidants.
And so they kind of keep it under wraps.
They try to defend that person publicly.
It's a very slick PR move for scumbags.
harland williams
And some of those people working for them could be writers that will steal for them too on their behalf.
joe rogan
That becomes a problem too.
One of the things that we noticed in the early days of the store is that the guys who are thieves, their opening acts would become thieves.
Because even if the opening acts had potential, and some of them got out of it and actually became like legit comics eventually, but they were seeing the shortcuts that this guy was taking, they were seeing this guy driving a Mercedes, and they're like, I want to take shortcuts too.
This is how you do it.
If you want to get by, this is my mentor.
If that's your mentor, if your mentor is a buccaneer, and you're like, okay, I guess this is a fucking dog.
I thought I was an artist.
I guess this is a dog-eat-dog world.
Eventually I'll stop stealing, but right now I've got to make it.
harland williams
Bad approach.
joe rogan
Crazy.
Kind of crazy.
harland williams
Did anyone ever approach you and say, hey, Rogan, that's my bit?
joe rogan
No.
I have had people approach me where I know that it wasn't their bit, and I know they were trying to steal a bit.
harland williams
Oh, really?
joe rogan
One of the things that thieves will do, I actually do a bit on that, too.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you're like, that's really interesting because I've been doing this bit for two years and you've seen me do comedy.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
So what do we do in here?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
So there's like a thing they do to let you know, hey, I didn't steal this from you, but I have a bit on that too.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But you kind of did, didn't you?
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, there's those moments.
harland williams
Yeah, it's that little kind of poke the cage.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then there's also like public events, like some big thing that happens.
Everyone's going to have a bit on it.
You know, like the submarine explosion.
You can't say, hey, I do a bit on the submarine.
harland williams
The border wall.
joe rogan
Everybody's got a bit on the border wall.
There's certain things where it's just you know.
But we know who's writing.
We see them.
We see them go up.
If you go to the mothership, on any given night, someone's going to do a joke at the bombs.
And then that joke...
Maybe next time they'll tweak it.
You know, maybe they come up into the green room.
This many times has happened.
One of us will say a joke, I'll say a joke.
I'm like, this joke is just fucking, I can't go anywhere with it.
I know there's something there, but I can't.
And we'll fuck around.
We'll bounce off each other.
We'll network it.
And then someone will go up with the version of it that's tightened up, and then it starts killing.
harland williams
We're like, ah, we got it!
It works!
joe rogan
And so it's like this cooperative project.
But it's just, if you're not doing that, then you're not creating new material.
Because new material's never perfect.
Sometimes it is.
Sometimes you have a bit, like, it came to you, and it's hilarious right away, and it kind of stays in that same form.
But then a lot of times, it's like, you know there's something there, but you don't know how you're going to extract it.
harland williams
Yeah, some of my favorite moments is...
I'm one of these guys, I don't know why I do this.
I think it's for the thrill of the kill.
But I love to go to the show early, like at the store or whatever.
I'll go, like, you know, two comics early.
And I'll sit in the back...
And I don't know what my opening bit's going to be.
And I realize those two comics have between them about, I don't know, 25 minutes.
They're doing 12 minutes each.
And I go, between them and me going up, I've got to come up with my opening bit.
And I'll create it as I'm in the back of the room.
I call it kind of sort of like swimming, you know, reaching for air when you're drowning.
joe rogan
Right, where you know you have to say something.
harland williams
I have to do it.
joe rogan
So it forces your brain to come up with something funny to say off the top.
harland williams
Right, and I'll go up and do it as...
And again, the opening bit is always the hardest.
joe rogan
Right.
harland williams
So if you can lay a new bomb...
As your opening bit that you just came up with, I love doing that.
joe rogan
That's a great way to put yourself under pressure.
harland williams
Oh, I love it.
I love it.
joe rogan
Have you done Bottom of the Barrel yet at the Mothership?
harland williams
No, what's that?
joe rogan
We did it last night.
Next time you're in town on a Tuesday night, Brian Simpson, who we just called...
harland williams
Oh, are you reaching the bucket?
joe rogan
Yes.
harland williams
Yeah, I did it about a month ago.
joe rogan
That's the best.
harland williams
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Because your back is against the wall.
Shane and I did it last night for a half an hour.
We do it together sometimes.
harland williams
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
So Shane and I went up at the end of the show.
Oh my God, we had so much fun.
harland williams
That's it?
It's fun, man.
joe rogan
We had so much fun.
It was so much.
We're laughing.
We're laughing so hard.
I'm laughing at him.
We're laughing at each other.
We're laughing at the audience.
The audience is laughing.
It was like such a party because they know we're just pulling these things out.
harland williams
Yeah, you pull You pull out words, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, you pull out words.
harland williams
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
So it was cool as a team thing, too, because sometimes he's ranting about something, we're all laughing, and I'll just, while it's happening, I'll pull in the bucket, try to find another good one.
What's the next one going to be?
So we got one on deck.
Wow.
But it's like having that thing where you're forced to come up with something funny in the moment.
It's a good little exercise for creativity.
harland williams
Yeah, and what I'm getting at too is when it hits.
When you do that, it's kind of like a 40-60 ratio a lot of the time.
joe rogan
Right, 40% success.
harland williams
When you get that one that you just came up with and it's 100%, maybe even 110%.
They're rare, but it's like, oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Did you see the Andrew Schultz thing that he did about Los Angeles where he's like, you know, everybody's saying that you guys are a bunch of drug addicts and perverts and psychopaths, but...
That's just one part of L.A. called Diddy's House.
He goes through this Diddy bit.
He came up with that in the green room.
harland williams
Oh, see?
joe rogan
Before the show.
Yeah.
Derek was there while he was getting ready.
He was trying to...
And nails it.
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
In front of everybody.
unidentified
I love it.
joe rogan
First time he did it.
Kills.
harland williams
It's a great exercise because...
You know you've got the rest of your whole act.
unidentified
Yes.
harland williams
So in my brain, I go, let's go up and dive on the sword, see if I can, you know, mine some gold.
And if I don't, I don't, because I got 12 minutes or 30 minutes in the chamber that I know works.
So I just, I love that opening few minutes where you just like throw it out there, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's good.
harland williams
It's exciting.
joe rogan
Yeah, just putting yourself in a situation.
Like sometimes when you're on stage and you're doing a bit...
You ever go, like, in an other direction just to see where it goes?
Just take a little turn?
harland williams
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Just see.
You never know.
And maybe that turn becomes, like, the best part of the bit.
harland williams
Oh, absolutely.
joe rogan
But if you don't do that...
harland williams
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, like, that's how you tell the difference between thieves and comics.
Thieves don't...
They don't do that.
Like, all of a sudden, they just have bits.
harland williams
Yeah, yeah.
No, switching gears in the moment is amazing.
And back to what you're saying about SNL, that's one of the reasons I love the purity of what we do is because you can deviate.
You can create your own meandering pathway as opposed to structured sketches and stuff like that.
It's really, I don't know, it just lets you soar, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, you're great in sketches.
You're great in dumber and dumber.
That was fucking awesome.
harland williams
Oh, thank you.
It was hilarious.
joe rogan
It was funny seeing you in there, because you were one of my first friends that was in a giant movie.
I was like, damn, look at Harlan.
harland williams
Yeah, it was probably right around when I met you.
It was my first movie, and it was like, oh no.
Do you want some celery?
joe rogan
Does that help?
I think it just makes it...
harland williams
If you rub it...
joe rogan
Jamie, tuck me those paper towels.
harland williams
What is that, tea?
joe rogan
No, coffee.
I just want to...
I like this t-shirt.
I don't want to fuck it up.
Yeah, I mean, we're lucky as fuck, dude.
We're lucky that we get to do this for a living, and you and I have been doing it for so fucking long.
harland williams
Jesus, I'm sorry.
joe rogan
What are you doing to your dick?
harland williams
No, it's just...
joe rogan
What are you doing over there?
Are you pulling your tapeworm out?
Son of a bitch.
You're preparing.
unidentified
We need more preparation for this show.
harland williams
Joe!
unidentified
It's Dimitri.
joe rogan
He's such a sick fuck.
You really should go to jail.
You should go to jail.
We should deport you.
unidentified
We send you back to Canada for what you've done to me.
This is so fucking stupid.
joe rogan
It's warm.
harland williams
It's been in my groin for two hours.
joe rogan
He had this in his pants the entire time.
harland williams
You won't touch the cauliflower, you'll touch my groin more.
joe rogan
I'm not into plants.
But I really like snake.
Harlan Williams, you're the fucking man.
I love you to death.
harland williams
Thanks for being here.
Dude, I'm so honored.
Thanks for having me, buddy.
joe rogan
Let's do it again.
harland williams
I would be honored.
joe rogan
I'm going to need to recover for a few months, but then we'll do it.
harland williams
Take Dimitri with me.
joe rogan
Okay, I'll leave him on the table.
He'll stay here forever.
harland williams
Okay, good.
joe rogan
This is his new home.
He'll live amongst the arrowheads and skulls and shit.
harland williams
Thank you, Joe.
joe rogan
My pleasure, brother.
harland williams
Great to see you.
joe rogan
It's great to be your friend, to know you all these years.
I love you to death.
You're awesome.
harland williams
Thank you, buddy.
You too.
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