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May 23, 2024 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #2155 - Brian Redban
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joe rogan
Hey, fella.
Hey, buddy.
Have you been fucking around with the chat GPT? I saw you brought it.
brian redban
Yeah, I just got the 4.0, the one that they've been showing where you could talk to it naturally and stuff.
joe rogan
Duncan had it in the green room when we were talking shit to it.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
About it replacing us.
brian redban
Yeah.
It's pretty crazy, you know?
It's weird how AI came out of nowhere and then...
We're like, how long has this been, you know, being worked on?
And then now it's like everywhere.
Like my vacuum cleaner has AI now.
It's crazy.
What does it do?
It's one of those robot vacs where it scans your whole house and then like it detects things using AI. Like, oh, that's shit.
Don't run over it.
joe rogan
It's like giving dog shits on the floor recognizing dog shits?
brian redban
Yeah, and it doesn't do a good job because the first thing it did, it went right over this dog shit and just started smearing dog shit through the whole entire kitchen.
joe rogan
Why is your dog shitting in the kitchen?
brian redban
Because once in a while, you know, dog shitses don't care.
They're like, I have to shit.
I don't want to bother.
joe rogan
That's the problem Jamie has with Carl.
brian redban
It's a little dog thing.
joe rogan
You gotta keep an eye on Carl.
Carl will just drop a deuce anywhere.
I think when they're really little, they don't understand outside.
Everything's so big.
Why would I go outside when I get shit right here?
I don't sleep anywhere near this pile.
brian redban
It's gross though, having shit smeared all over your floor.
joe rogan
Especially by a super smart AI vacuum cleaner.
That's so dumb.
Yeah, all these different things are going to sync together.
That's one of the things that people say about Samsung.
People that are Samsung fanboys...
If you have a Samsung refrigerator and a Samsung TV and a Samsung phone, you could use your phone to control everything.
I guess there's refrigerators out there.
I don't know exactly where they're at right now because I only saw an ad for them where your refrigerator will tell you when things are going to expire.
brian redban
Right, it scans that.
joe rogan
Yeah, so if you've got orange juice or something like that, your orange juice is only good for three more days.
Like that kind of shit.
brian redban
Yeah.
And that's only if you place that orange juice with the date facing the camera, probably, you know?
Yeah.
I think that it's been out for a while, but it doesn't really work great.
There's a few things refrigerators do that have too much technology in them.
joe rogan
What impresses the shit about me, and the thing that entices me towards Samsung phones, is the AI with notes.
That's a big deal to me.
The fact that it can record your podcast for sure, but also you can record a set and it'll transcribe the set and then summarize into different parts.
Like this is where you're talking about sucking your own dick.
This is where you talk about UFOs.
jamie vernon
I asked Red Ben, he didn't see this?
Did you see this Joe going around on Twitter?
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
There's a feature called Recall on Windows.
joe rogan
Your Wind- What?
jamie vernon
Let me play this for you, it's pretty crazy.
brian redban
It's pretty crazy.
unidentified
We introduce memory, right?
Photographing memory into what you do on the PC.
And now we have it.
So it's called Recall.
It's not keyword search, right?
It's semantic search over all your history.
And it's not just about any document.
We can recreate moments from the past essentially.
Windows constantly takes screenshots of what's on your screen.
Then uses a generative AI model right on the device, along with the NPU, to process all that data and make it searchable, even photos.
I got to try it out.
I searched brown leather bag.
It came up in visual search.
There's no place on this page that it says brown leather bag.
It just knows because it sees this brown leather bag.
There could be this reaction from some people that this is pretty creepy.
Microsoft is taking screenshots of everything I do.
Yeah, I mean, that's why that you can only do it on the edge.
You have to put two things together.
This is my computer.
This is my recall, and it's all being done locally.
brian redban
Texas is going to ban my recall.
They're not going to let me.
It's going to be porn.
joe rogan
I don't trust you at all.
I don't trust you at all.
It's all done locally.
Oh, I'm sure.
I'm sure there's no way the government's going to have access to every keystroke you make and be able to see.
That's ridiculous.
brian redban
And it's going to summarize everything you do.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, it's not that difficult, especially for government organizations, to get into your fucking computer.
Are you connected to a secure Wi-Fi?
Are you even using a VPN? Like, what are you doing?
What kind of firewall do you have?
How many people are sophisticated enough to set it up so that you can't look at everything they do?
brian redban
It's like your friend's phone yesterday or two days ago.
That's a straight-up virus that he was downloading.
joe rogan
People are saying it's not.
People are saying it's just like if you have your case on improperly, it's pressing two buttons at the same time.
Was his phone on the table, Jamie, or is it in his bag?
I don't remember either.
I think on some of these Android phones, if you're pressing two buttons at the same time, it reboots, right?
So there's a bootloader mode.
That's why you can do different things to your phones.
brian redban
But that bootloader screen does not look like...
It looks so cheap, too.
It was like the arrow that was in it.
I was like, I've seen this arrow.
That's clip art.
I think it even said Getty Images on the side of it or something like that.
joe rogan
And then there's a barcode.
Why does it have a barcode?
brian redban
What are you buying?
joe rogan
This is not for sale.
Why does it have a barcode?
brian redban
Right, and how are you going to scan that barcode with the phone that you're holding?
joe rogan
Like, oh, it's got a barcode.
It must be legit.
brian redban
Right.
Yeah, that seems so, so fake.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Look at all that Chinese writing, too.
Let's get the fuck out of here.
I guess it's Korean, because it's Samsung.
Do not disconnect USB cable during software update.
So it's saying downloading, and it says it in Korean.
So, it's doing something.
brian redban
See, that just looks...
That does not look official.
joe rogan
The thing is, my point was, it took a while.
And, like, what if he broke his leg?
Like, what if he just fell on his bike and broke his leg, and now all of a sudden he's got a call for an ambulance, and he's laying there with his fucking shin bone poking out of his calf, and he's got to sit there while his stupid phone does that.
brian redban
That's why I can't be real.
joe rogan
Can you reboot that?
Can you stop that?
Is that possible?
jamie vernon
That's what I had circled.
It said that you could cancel it.
joe rogan
You can cancel it.
brian redban
Well, that's why when you posted that video, I texted you, tell them to hold down the power button and the up arrow.
Like, reboot your phone.
Stop doing whatever it's doing.
joe rogan
It was too late by the time you sent me that.
I always worry about that with Windows.
Because Windows will start updating my laptop in the middle of nowhere.
brian redban
Yeah, that's the worst, dude.
joe rogan
It's like I'll open the laptop, super inspired, ready to write, and it's like, oh, we have to upload your software.
This will take 20 minutes.
What?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is stupid.
Give me the option to not do this.
Mac, at least, would give me the option.
It'll say it up in the corner.
There's a new update available.
Do you want to update it?
brian redban
Right.
And then it downloads it.
Then it goes, do you want to do this right now?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
We download it.
We can do it later.
joe rogan
With Windows, is that normal?
I think it was like an old...
jamie vernon
I think.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
What's that?
jamie vernon
It's just a setting that's turned off like auto-updates or whatever.
joe rogan
Oh, there's a setting on Windows as well?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
I must have had it on just so I don't have to deal with it.
jamie vernon
Unless it's an Office thing or something you're dealing with that's not like Windows updates.
joe rogan
No, Office gives you a tiny notification at the top of a file that'll say a new update's available.
But you can click out of that easy.
jamie vernon
You just wait.
brian redban
Yeah, but the problem is, I have automatic updates on Mac, and it'll download it and go, hey, we got this update for you.
It won't just, in the middle of doing something, just reboot my laptop.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Mine just rebooted it, the moment I opened it up.
But I hadn't used that laptop in a while.
It was just sitting there.
You know what I want to try?
I want to try a laptop with, you know I'm a big keyboard fan.
Like, one of the reasons why I write.
If I write, I have a home, like, Mac that I write on that is, yeah, those are nice.
brian redban
The new keyboards.
The MacBook Pro ones.
joe rogan
They're dope.
It really is like a MacBook.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
So what we're looking at right now is red bands.
brian redban
Look how skinny that is.
joe rogan
I know, Jamie has one.
This is the new iPad, which is insane.
This is so, it's so insane.
It's like, it is as thin as possible where you could still use a USB-C connector.
brian redban
And I thought this was skinny, and that's twice.
joe rogan
I know.
So much.
Your phone, which is super skinny, is so much fatter than this iPad.
This iPad is amazing.
And it has insane battery life, too, which is crazy.
And this probably has like two terabytes, right?
brian redban
Ten hours.
This is one terabyte, but you can get up to two terabytes.
joe rogan
Fucking nuts.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Nuts.
But what I really like is the keyboards on ThinkPads.
Because ThinkPads have a longer stroke, and when you're writing with keys, like, you have more feedback with the longer keystrokes, and then you're more accurate with your typing.
And it's been proven.
Like, when people do, like, how many words per minute can you write?
They can write more words per minute on keyboards with better feedback, like longer keystrokes.
But Alienware, you know, because a lot of gamers like mechanical keyboards because they have the clicky clack feel and it's like even more accurate.
Well, they have a mechanical keyboard now on their laptops.
And so I've been thinking about getting one of those.
brian redban
How thick is that laptop, though?
joe rogan
It's not that thick.
So it has long key travel.
I think the key travel is 1.8 millimeters, which is like ideal.
My old ThinkPad had like 2.2, which was nice.
Long keystrokes and you just get real accurate with like your writing so for me like a lot of times I'm writing I'm stoned I don't have time to like go back and fucking you know I want to just get it my thought out while it's in my head and With an IBM well, you know Lenovo now when a Lenovo ThinkPad I'm just much more accurate when I'm writing and I like it, but it sounds...
brian redban
I don't know.
After a while, it's like, God, this is so...
joe rogan
The Mac ones are terrible.
The ones on MacBooks, I have a MacBook.
It's fucking terrible to write on.
It's really short keystrokes.
It's a really flat key.
It's just not good to write on.
You can do it.
It's definitely better than writing by hand.
I type on it all the time.
I do write on it all the time.
But it's just, when you go over to that ThinkPad, you're like, Oh, this is what it's supposed to feel like.
Or at home, I have an ergonomic keyboard that I use on my Mac, and that is the best.
It's real easy.
I'm really accurate.
I don't even have to think.
I can just write and look at the screen, and I just get it right all the time.
brian redban
Why don't you use voice though?
It's so accurate now.
joe rogan
I don't want to be talking in my house.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
About some of the things I write.
And some of the things I write, I like writing because the thing about writing is, like, say if I'm writing...
You know, fucking artificial intelligence.
As I'm writing artificial intelligence, it takes longer to write it than it does to think the word.
So you're spending more time on each, instead of just barfing out words, like I do when I talk, or sometimes I don't even know what the fuck I'm saying while I'm saying it.
When I'm writing and typing, it takes a little longer, so it makes me think a little more, and I have more possibilities open up about where to go with things.
So it actually benefits me to slow me down a little, but I still want it to be accurate.
I want it to be so slow that I'm fucking with every key.
I don't want that.
I want accuracy, but a little slower than talking for writing.
brian redban
Yeah, my problem is I'll just start writing like an idea or a joke or whatever, and then halfway through I'll look up and I'm like...
Like, I fucked up some word, or I had auto-corrected something, and it makes everything not make sense.
And I've had it like, fuck, like, I wrote this whole down, and now I don't understand any of it.
Like, just one word, spell-checked.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's true.
Well, notes are the best for that.
brian redban
Yeah, audio notes.
joe rogan
And the thing about the phone is, you can do it, like, while you're in the car.
You can press, like, if you have Apple CarPlay, you press it on the screen, and say, make a voice note.
And then you can just make a note.
Or just make a note, rather.
And it'll make a note for you and leave it in there.
It's great.
So there's many times that I've, like, at the end of the night I've done that, and then I go back over it.
So what I do is I have, like, a whole folder that's just ideas.
So I've got this folder.
These are just ideas.
And some of them, a lot of them have become bits, and some of them I'm just like, maybe one day I'll have something.
And so when I write, yeah.
So when I write, I go back.
Same thing.
I go back and I look at those and I'll see if something comes into my head.
I'll say – because you know, when you start writing, you're just staring at that blank screen like, what am I writing about?
And then I'll just go into the phone and I'll say, what do you got for me?
What have I been thinking about?
Oh, borders.
Open borders.
Okay.
Yeah, okay.
What would it be like if there was no borders?
Would that suck?
What would it be like if there was more borders?
Would that suck?
And then I'll just start writing, you know?
brian redban
Wouldn't it be cool to take all our notes, put in an AI, and combine this into a one story?
Like a 20-page story.
joe rogan
Right, it would be like the perfect new one-hour set.
The thing about AI, though, is like, I've never used AI, like GPT, to write a joke, but I know people are doing that now.
And my thought is...
I wouldn't feel as good about it when it was done.
Like, I don't want it just to be good.
I want it to be good and I want it to have come from my head.
You know what I'm saying?
brian redban
It's not.
That's the one thing.
It's not there yet.
It can't write a good joke.
Like, all this, like, shit where he's, like, Louis CK, or not Louis CK, but the George Carlin and stuff, that's somebody writing that and just doing it in a George Carlin voice.
Voice, right.
joe rogan
It's not good at writing the jokes yet.
brian redban
Because I've experimented trying to find a tag for a joke already.
Like, you know, this is the scenario, and it's still dad jokes and Laffy Taffy bullshit.
Like, oh, a cow walks into a bar.
joe rogan
What I think it would be, though, so you know how a lot of really good comics hire writers?
And generally, the writers aren't even as good a comic as them.
But the way Chris Rock does it, Chris, I haven't talked to him personally.
I've heard him talk about it, and I've talked to people who work with him.
So one of the things he gets accused of, unfairly, people say that he has writers who write for him.
Chris Rock writes his own material.
What he has is the writers, he bounces the ideas off them, so they come and watch him do the set, and then they say, maybe when you do this, say that first, or maybe expand on this, or I got a tag for that.
But those guys who are doing that aren't as good a comic as him.
So sometimes you just need other ideas, right?
brian redban
Yeah, it's like the green room.
That's what...
Man, that joke.
You should have had this or...
joe rogan
The green room is amazing for that.
There's so many times in the green room that we're all trying to work out a bit, and then, like, Tony will chime in, or Brian will chime in, like, oh!
That's it.
And then you figure it out.
I mean, we rewrote David Lucas' entire fucking act in that green room.
But that's one thing.
So if ChatTPT just gave you ideas, I just need a framework sometimes.
I feel like each subject is just a scaffolding.
So I get the scaffolding.
Now once I have the scaffolding, I have to build a house.
But I have to have a fucking location where I can start building.
So the location is the subject, whatever the idea is.
And then I start building.
That's how I do it.
But I mean, everybody does it different, man.
Some people have to write it down on paper.
Like some people, all their stuff, like Colin Quinn's shit's all on paper.
A lot of people, it's just, they write it down.
Like Christina P. She has this notebook she brings with her.
And you look at the notebook, it's filled with ideas.
It's just all written.
She goes, I have to write it down on paper.
brian redban
Mark Norman.
His back pocket's like a turtle.
Insane.
joe rogan
He's the most insane.
He's the most insane.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because he has a phone.
He has a phone.
He knows there's notes on the phone.
You don't have to have that.
You have both things when you can only have one thing.
This is so unnecessary.
brian redban
He's so silly.
And he's just sitting on it like a second wallet just breaking his back every night.
joe rogan
Totally going to fuck his back up.
Like one of them cab drivers that has a bum back because you have a fucking wallet that's two feet thick on one side of your ass.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
If he just took those notes and transcribed them into the notes on his phone, Then he would have it, he's always worried about losing them, but this way you would never lose them, because they would be in the cloud.
jamie vernon
You could take a picture, it's over.
unidentified
Yeah, you could take a picture, transcribe it, he's done, throw away, it's over.
joe rogan
And with a lot of these things, like that's the other thing about Samsung, you can write with a stylus on the screen, and then it would convert that into print.
brian redban
You could do that on the iPad too.
joe rogan
Really?
brian redban
Yeah, it's great.
joe rogan
With the pen?
The iPad with the pen?
Why don't they make that for the iPhone, you fucks?
brian redban
The pen?
joe rogan
They can't admit that Samsung was right.
brian redban
Yeah, I think they have apps or there's a way to do it on the Note app maybe on the phone, like where you just use your finger, you know, and just do...
joe rogan
Yeah, but I want the pen.
brian redban
Yeah, it is silly.
It's also silly, like the new pen that just came out, you can't use it on last year's model.
Oh, that's dirty.
It's like they do all this dirty shit, dude.
joe rogan
They get so dirty.
brian redban
It's so bad.
joe rogan
They're so dirty with their USB-C cables.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
I'm glad now that it's just...
joe rogan
Yeah, it's nice, but meanwhile, I have AirPods...
And they all charge with regular lightning.
brian redban
Well, the new version has...
They have a new version.
joe rogan
Oh, I gotta get a new version?
brian redban
Yeah, you go by just the case.
joe rogan
They just never let you go.
And their shit is just good enough so that you keep going down that path.
brian redban
Yeah.
Apple Vision Pro is very depressing, by the way.
unidentified
Is it?
joe rogan
You're done?
brian redban
You are so in.
I'm so in.
And it's still amazing, but then there's just nothing you can do.
Watching 3D movies is the best experience you'll ever have, ever.
Even better than a movie theater.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
Sitting there watching Avatar.
It's a big IMAX in your bedroom.
joe rogan
It doesn't bother you that the thing's over your face?
brian redban
No.
Of course, I use it more, but it's so comfortable.
joe rogan
How much EMF radiation are you getting?
brian redban
Oh, that's why my eyes are so bad.
My eyes are getting worse every day.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
You're cooking your brain, son.
brian redban
And it fucks your dreams up.
It kind of fucks your brain up a little because I think your brain starts thinking that's real.
So when you're dreaming and shit, I don't know.
Was it you?
There was this fighter pilot and he's one of the top fighter pilots for the Air Force or something like that.
I asked him if he's ever done any of the VR flight simulations.
He's like, I can't.
It will throw off my inner timing and stuff like that.
Because it will fuck with his inner timing.
And I'm like, I never thought about that.
joe rogan
Timing for a real jet.
brian redban
Yeah.
And I'm like, whoa.
What does it do to normal people?
joe rogan
Those guys are all on the way out.
They're all on the way out.
Mike Baker was in here.
He was showing us how they have AI fighter jets now that out...
Dogfight, like, actual piloted fighter jets 100% of the time.
They always win.
brian redban
It's like SkyTesla.
unidentified
It's over.
joe rogan
They're gonna...
brian redban
Yeah, so smart.
joe rogan
You got no chance.
They're just too smart.
They're too smart.
No matter how clever you think you are, you think you're Maverick.
Maverick's dead.
brian redban
Okay?
joe rogan
Fucking Zero just killed Maverick.
And Zero kills everybody.
Because Zero isn't a human.
And Zero doesn't get nervous.
And Zero doesn't make mistakes.
And Zero has all the data of every single dogfight and every single dogfight training mission that's ever been done, ever.
In its database with the exact correct timing on when to launch missiles and where to be and where to avoid.
You're fucked.
We're fucked.
brian redban
We're all fucked because then everybody's going to have the same thing and it's just going to be nonstop.
We're fighting.
joe rogan
We might be the only people that aren't fucked because we talk shit.
Professional shit talkers are always going to be necessary.
To make sense and give you some entertainment through all this, I require them.
Look, if I wasn't a comic and I wasn't around guys like you and Tony and all the people that we're around with all the time, I don't know what I'd do.
If I had to talk to normies all day about how fucked things are and not laugh and not have fun, I'd be depressed.
We're always laughing and talking shit and having fun, even though things are crazy.
We are, what, four years away from artificial people telling us what to do?
And everybody's ushering in our own demise, buying things constantly?
We're going to have artificial life forms that are far superior to humans in like four years.
And everybody's like, whatever.
What do you think about Drake and Kendrick?
I'm on Team Kendrick.
brian redban
Of course, everyone is.
joe rogan
Everyone seems to be on Team Kendrick.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Drake slings too much dick.
People are a little upset about him.
He's a little too handsome.
brian redban
Yeah, but all the podcasts that every single comedian's ever done is going to be fed into AI, and they're going to be the shit talkers.
joe rogan
I honestly don't know anything about the Drake and Kendrick beef.
Every time people talk to me about it, my eyes glaze over.
I just can't pay attention.
I can't pay attention to grown men beefing with each other publicly.
brian redban
It's just sexual tension between those two.
joe rogan
That's all it is.
My feeling is always like, damn, you guys busted out eight songs that are bangers, shitting on each other.
You could have been just writing amazing rap songs.
Like, elevating human beings, elevating life, you know?
And once you write one diss song about somebody, it's not enough.
And then you have to go back and forth and back and forth.
Like, come on.
Come on.
I don't even like listening to old school ones, you know?
Like, that's why I fucked your bitch!
You go back and listen to Tupac and Biggie.
I love Tupac and I love Biggie.
Like, how come I have to choose?
How come?
How come there's a fight?
What's going on?
jamie vernon
Those songs become so popular.
joe rogan
Yeah, not as much as California love.
There's songs that you hear and they make you excited.
They make you excited.
There's like California Love.
I remember when Uriah Faber was fighting in the UFC, the California kid.
He would always come out to California Love.
And the moment you hear it, you're like, woo!
That's one of those songs, man.
You don't get that diss track.
jamie vernon
Yeah, you do.
That came because of the East Coast, West Coast beef.
joe rogan
This guy.
jamie vernon
That's how it came.
joe rogan
That's where California Love came?
jamie vernon
It probably wouldn't have even taken the time to write it if they weren't talking shit back then.
They may have.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Tupac wrote a lot.
Tupac wrote so much that they were releasing albums long after he was dead, remember?
He was just a machine.
Like, that dude was just a creative machine.
He would just lock himself in the studio and just make songs.
brian redban
Remember the Eazy-E and Ice Cube beef?
That was my favorite.
joe rogan
That was a good one.
brian redban
Talking about fucking him in the ass with no Vaseline and shit like that.
They had whole albums back then.
joe rogan
You don't want to get into this war with Ice Cube.
He's too clever.
brian redban
He's awesome.
joe rogan
He's too clever.
He's too clever with his writing.
Ice Cube wrote most of the songs for NWA. Ice Cube's a very good writer.
A lot of times in rap bands, it's the one dude who writes everything.
In Ghetto Boys, it was Willie D. We played Fuck A War, which is one of my all-time favorite rap songs, Bushwick Bill.
And Willie D texted me and goes, I wrote that in 45 minutes.
There's some dudes that are just really good at writing.
They're just really good at writing bangers.
And that's with comedy, too.
Tony's that guy.
Tony is really good at writing jokes.
His ability to, especially joke shitting on people.
brian redban
Yeah, his brain's constantly working.
When you talk to him, he's looking past you thinking what joke he's going to say after.
joe rogan
He's a machine.
That's why, I mean, your show, first of all, congratulations, dude.
I mean, you guys are fucking killing it.
brian redban
It's insane, dude.
joe rogan
You guys are killing it.
You guys sold out Madison Square Garden two nights in a row.
You guys sold out a giant-ass theater in L.A. and you want to do another show, so let's do the Staples Center.
Like, what?
You sell that out like that.
It's bananas.
You guys are printing money.
brian redban
It's ridiculous.
joe rogan
And it's the best fucking comedy show in the world.
It's the best show.
Because, like, you guys, first of all, you guys have been doing it now for 11 years almost, right?
When it'll be 11?
December?
brian redban
June, I think.
June?
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it's almost 11 years.
So you've been doing it all these times.
It's polished.
You guys are synced up.
Everybody knows their position.
The band is great.
The audience is super aware of how the show works.
They're not confused.
Like, what's going on?
How come he has a minute?
Everybody knows how it works.
And it's just polished.
And then you've got Tony, who's just locked in.
The fucking lines he has, so many people do not believe that he comes up with those on the spot.
They're like, oh, that's all planned out.
Like, no, none of it's planned out.
That's the magic of it.
Like, especially when him and David go at it.
When David Lucas and Tony Hinchcliffe shit on each other, it's as hard as I ever laugh.
There's like compilations of them shitting on each other on YouTube, and in a bunch of them, it's me, like, red-faced, can't breathe, holding...
Holding my sides, just like, Jesus Christ.
It's so funny.
It's so good.
brian redban
David gets to just call him gay for like 15 minutes straight.
It's so funny.
joe rogan
The show went against every single direction that the industry was trying to tell us the audience was going.
Your show went against all of the woke shit, against all of the don't say this and don't say that, and this is a forbidden word.
Now, all of it's out the window, and it's the best show.
And then the audience is obviously responding.
There's not a fucking podcast on earth that could sell out arenas like you guys are doing.
Not one.
You guys are selling out Madison Square Garden in an hour.
It's nuts.
I mean, that's like a cultural phenomena.
That's a real audience.
Like, finally, the audience reacts to, like, this is what we want.
This is what we've always wanted.
We don't think comedy is real life.
We're not fucking stupid.
Go crazy.
Go crazy.
Say wild shit.
And it's the best for comedy, man.
brian redban
It's the Johnny Carson for comics.
And it's also random.
You could be doing comedy ten years or you could be doing comedy your first time and somehow get on Johnny Carson.
joe rogan
You can be doing comedy your first time and get on Johnny Carson at the Staplet Center.
brian redban
Yeah.
Which is one of the worst things ever when that happens, by the way.
joe rogan
Well, if you can get through that, though, I mean, good lord, if you can get through that, what a career you'll have.
You'll be able to tell people the first time he was ever on stage was in front of 20,000 people, and now here he is headlining the Comedy Works in Denver.
I mean, that's an amazing thing.
brian redban
That's what Janice did her third time on stage at the arena here on New Year's Eve.
Nuts.
joe rogan
That is so nuts.
Third time on stage.
That is bananas.
That kind of pressure is bananas.
brian redban
And then after that, I ask her to marry me.
She's already like, oh, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Oh, that's cute.
That's adorable.
That's adorable.
Yeah, you guys are killing it, man.
It's awesome to see.
brian redban
Somebody sent me a clip of an old JRE. It was like the week we started that Kill Tony.
And you're like, what's this new show you're doing or something like that?
And I go, oh, it's me and this guy named Tony Hinchcliffe.
You know Tony, right?
Oh, I think so.
I don't know.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
brian redban
Yeah.
I mean, we've been working so hard at it.
We always thought it's going to become bigger, but not this big.
Not having Post Malone and RFK on the same show.
Like, what the hell is going on here?
joe rogan
Remember the time I tricked Post Malone?
He had no idea he was going on stage?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
You've done that a few times.
joe rogan
I've done that with Tucker Carlson.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Be known, if you're a famous person and we're hanging out, it's Monday.
brian redban
Oh, let's get through this curtain real quick.
What the hell?
unidentified
I might drag you out onto the internet.
joe rogan
But listen, Tucker Carlson handed it like a champ.
He was great.
brian redban
Tucker's hilarious, man.
joe rogan
He was so smooth and so relaxed and so genuinely happy and fun.
People don't understand him or they don't know who he is or they just want to demonize him as this evil right-wing person.
He's a sweetheart of a guy.
And I'm saying that as someone who spent hours with him.
He's a very nice guy.
He's nice to everybody.
He's just, he's nice.
He's just, he's odd.
He's odd.
He's an odd guy.
And he was also working in the belly of the beast for, like, how many years?
He was on CNN, and then he goes to CNN to Fox, and now he's a wild boy.
Now he's online.
He's just wild.
You know, having, interviewing that guy who says he sucked Obama's dick, like that kind of thing.
I forgot to ask him about that.
brian redban
Remember when William just, or was it William or Cam just brought that up?
unidentified
Yeah, William brought up, did that guy really suck Obama's dick?
brian redban
What a nightmare.
joe rogan
What a nightmare!
Tucker!
brian redban
William's so fucking funny, and his brother now works at the mothership, and it's like the coolest thing ever.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's amazing.
William is so funny, and he's so confident now.
And look, when we first met that guy, he was awkward, but kind of funny, but he had to have those goddamn notes.
And how many times did we have conversations with him in the green room?
brian redban
Millions.
joe rogan
Millions.
Like, dude, you've got to ditch those notes.
Because when he would do Kill Tony, when he would engage with the audience, I go, when you stare at the audience and start talking to them, I go, it makes me nervous.
Like, as a friend of yours, you're so wild that, like, I'm in the audience like, this guy's crazy.
That's better than staring at your notes, man.
Engage them.
Look at them.
You can remember your jokes.
And he just had to be convinced that he could remember.
Now he's doing an hour on stage with no notes and killing, headlining, selling out everywhere.
Dude, the Black Keys specifically wanted to see him when he was in town.
So I had William come up and do the show.
I called him.
I was like, dude, the Black Keys want to meet you.
brian redban
Those guys, by the way, are the coolest guys.
joe rogan
The best!
They're the best.
They're the best.
And so is everyone around them.
We went to see them at their show at Stubbs and hung out with them and everyone, right?
So cool.
brian redban
Yeah, and they were just William.
unidentified
They were just giant William fans.
joe rogan
They were so pumped to hang out with him.
brian redban
It's funny hearing that, like, hearing people, you know, the story Tony told you last night about that guy, that huge Casey Rocket fan.
joe rogan
Amazing!
Yeah, amazing.
brian redban
CEO of a big company.
joe rogan
Yeah, CEO of a huge company, and he's doing a Casey Rocket impression.
brian redban
Impression of Crab Walk.
joe rogan
That is insane.
jamie vernon
Didn't Drake also say something about it?
brian redban
Drake watches every week, I guess.
unidentified
It's crazy.
brian redban
Oh, I mean, it's a team drink.
joe rogan
When you guys had Sugar Sean O'Malley, the UFC bantamweight champion, revealing the winner of one of the battles, that's incredible, man.
You had Jelly Roll singing in front of arenas for you guys.
The whole thing is so nuts, man.
And I don't think Post Malone even knew what he was getting into the first time he did it, right?
He didn't know what it was.
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
I don't think he knew it.
Did he know?
brian redban
No.
I think I had to explain to him.
joe rogan
And then I said, let's go to the club.
And then I just fucking opened the curtains and we all went out together.
brian redban
In LA, when I was in LA for the Keltonys, I hung out with Post I think like two nights, three nights in a row to like five in the morning just drinking.
Like that dude doesn't get drunk.
He just keeps on going.
joe rogan
He's a Bud Light guy.
brian redban
Yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
Those Bud Light guys are dangerous.
Those are like Shane Gillis guys.
Shane Gillis is another Bud Light guy.
You could drink, like Stan Hope used to be a light beer guy.
You could just drink light beer and just maintain a steady buzz.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whereas retards like you and me are drinking whiskey.
brian redban
Yeah, you can pee it out at the same amount as he's drinking it.
joe rogan
We're getting ham.
We're slurring our words, and they just keep going.
brian redban
That's true, man.
Yeah.
I should go back to beer.
I can't do it anymore.
joe rogan
You get fat.
brian redban
Yeah.
I mean, I get fat both ways.
joe rogan
Have you thought about doing the Ozempic?
brian redban
My doctor, my testosterone doctor, said don't do it.
He had one of his patients do it, and she had seizures and had to go to the hospital or something like that.
joe rogan
That could happen, or he could be hot.
I mean, come on, bro.
brian redban
Don't be a pussy.
I don't know if they're a sponsor on this, but the HIMSS, the hair HIMSS, you can get medications through them.
They just announced that they're going to have an Ozempic Clone, where it's the same medicine inside of Zempick, but it's going to be like one-tenth of the price.
joe rogan
What's this?
brian redban
Of the New South Park.
Have you heard about this?
joe rogan
First look at Cartman using to go Zempick and South Park.
So he's getting smaller, the end of obesity.
unidentified
Oh no!
brian redban
Yeah, it comes out the 24th.
Is that out now?
joe rogan
Is that today?
brian redban
Two more days.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's some people have real bad side effects, apparently.
But one of the things that...
What Peter Atiyah was saying was that, you know, he's a doctor, so they had tried to see what the effects of these things on the people that wanted to take them.
And so they said, well, we'll prescribe them to you, but we want to do DEXA scans, we want to make sure that we, you know, we want to really monitor what's going on in your whole body.
So one of the things that they found out was that in normal conditions, like say if you lost weight, You know, like, most of it would be fat, but a small percentage of it would be lean body mass, like muscle tissue.
In Ozempic, most of the loss, like, when they were looking at it, the people were losing much more body mass, much more lean tissue and bone mass than was making him comfortable.
He's like, this makes me very uncomfortable.
He's like, these people are getting lighter and they're getting fatter.
Like, they're losing muscle tissue and bone.
Like, this is not good.
But then there's other people that have said, if your body's tolerating it, that what you should do is add strength training to mitigate the effects of that.
But now you're asking people to be disciplined.
Like, isn't the whole point?
I mean, how many people who are going to take Ozempic are like disciplined weight trainers?
Where they're gonna really mitigate the effects of bone loss and muscle loss, and they're gonna stay strong while they lose fat, while you're paralyzing their stomach with a drug that I would just imagine probably has an effect on your energy levels.
Just by virtue of the fact that your body is dealing with whatever it has to do to metabolize this new drug you're injecting into your body, right?
So if you're injecting this drug into your body, Does it have a positive effect?
Does it give you more energy?
Or it's killing your appetite, right?
That's part of what it does.
It's kind of like, what is the actual physical effect?
It has some sort of a paralysis effect on your stomach on some people?
What does it do?
Let's find out, because we're so stupid.
We don't know exactly what it does.
I think it kills your appetite.
brian redban
If it kills your appetite, that wouldn't work on me, because I have no appetite anyway.
joe rogan
Okay.
It says it works by mimicking a naturally occurring hormone.
As those hormone levels rise, the molecules go to your brain, telling it you're full.
It also slows digestion by increasing the time it takes for food to leave the body.
It slows digestion.
I don't like that.
brian redban
That's crazy.
joe rogan
So that's probably...
It's similar to the effect of bariatric surgery.
So that's the thing where they're saying it paralyzes your stomach.
It slows it down.
brian redban
Yeah, that's...
joe rogan
I think Brian Simpson had a really bad reaction to it where he was in bed for a while.
Yeah, he got wrecked.
brian redban
Is he still on it?
joe rogan
No, he got off it immediately.
Brian had a great weight loss though when he switched to the carnivore diet when he went all meat.
brian redban
I did that, but I gained it immediately back the second I stopped it, you know?
joe rogan
Why just stop it then?
brian redban
You know how it is.
You just get tired of meat.
Not tired of meat, but you just miss fruit.
I need fruit.
I need a salad.
joe rogan
I don't think there's anything wrong with fruit.
I think fruit's fine for you.
brian redban
I've lost over 30 pounds in a year, though, just being on testosterone, not doing anything different.
Really?
joe rogan
Why don't you work out a little bit?
brian redban
I do now that I live downtown half the time, because I'm walking everywhere.
joe rogan
You just walk?
brian redban
Yeah, it's great.
joe rogan
Just hire a trainer.
You got cash?
brian redban
But yeah, I'm like the ozempic people.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you just get someone who shows up at your house.
brian redban
That sounds worse.
joe rogan
Come on, Brian.
brian redban
That sounds worse.
joe rogan
Get up.
brian redban
Get up.
joe rogan
Let's go work out.
brian redban
Now I have a nice gym, so I'll probably start.
joe rogan
But if you just eased into it.
Just, we want to keep you alive.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't die now.
Kill Tony's killing it.
brian redban
Yeah, true.
joe rogan
You guys are literally on top of the world.
You guys could do an arena in every city every night of the week.
You just fly around the country doing arenas.
And it's a new show every time.
That's what's so crazy.
It's not like a stand-up show where you develop the show, you put the bits together, you put out a special.
No.
You guys could do a new show everywhere you go.
brian redban
The only thing with the arena is it's so much work.
You know what I mean?
Because you've got to be bigger and bigger.
joe rogan
Well, you have a producer.
brian redban
You've got Anthony now as a producer.
Which is the most amazing thing ever, by the way.
joe rogan
Yeah, it helps.
brian redban
God, he's awesome.
But it's also, you know, the arena, it changes the show a little.
Like, it's more of a celebration kind of thing, I think.
But you need those weekly, normal, you know, mothership shows.
You know what I mean?
That's so important because that's really the show.
joe rogan
It's also the club experience and to see the club experience on YouTube.
The Mothership and like what Kill Tony at the Mothership is the cornerstone of stand-up comedy because it's showing young comics that there's a path.
You can actually do this and it's just about being funny regardless of your political beliefs, your ideology, what you think you're supposed to say with your platform.
unidentified
Stop.
joe rogan
It's just about being funny.
That's what people want to see.
They just want to laugh.
There's plenty of people lecturing people, plenty of people telling people what to do.
They just want to laugh.
And when you get one minute, there's no time for any bullshit.
And then you have one minute with these hawks on the left side of you.
Just hawks.
Just vicious professional comedians all waiting to shit on your act or say something funny at your expense.
And then the audience, they get to see, you know, William Montgomery kill, Cam kill, Hans kill.
These people are killing.
And so the audience is primed.
It's like, if you can do that, if you can actually get through that and make that minute and have everybody go, that was really great.
And the audience gives you a round of applause like, holy shit, you're flying.
And then the audience wants to see you try it again, and now you're out in the open mics every night, and you're banging it out because you think, oh my god, I think there's a real pathway to a career here.
And then you do a second show, and next thing you know, you got a golden ticket.
Holy shit!
Next thing you know, you're Hans Kim.
brian redban
It's insane.
joe rogan
You're opening up for me in arenas.
We're traveling around all over the fucking world.
You're doing stand-up now to your own sold-out audiences and weekends in these clubs.
It's incredible.
brian redban
Hans Kim is killing it.
Killing it!
Killing it!
He might be one of the most popular comedians in the circuit right now.
joe rogan
And he keeps getting better.
He did a set the other night, last week at the Mothership, did two nights, and he fucking murdered and all this new shit.
I was like, dude, that's great stuff.
It was really well written, really funny.
brian redban
Have you seen his process?
It's insane.
He has spreadsheets in Excel and stuff like that.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, he gets nutty.
He's on the plane nerding out on all his material.
But that's how to do it, man.
That's how to do it.
But the thing is, these comics now, they see there's a genuine path.
And it exists.
And so it sets the tone for open mics and for stand-ups.
Because they realize, like, hey, it's not about your fucking ideologies.
It's just about being funny.
Too many people got trapped in this claptor mode, where you want to say something, you know, you're going to use something, you're going to use your act for social justice, like...
Be funny.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Be funny.
You have to be funny.
That's the thing.
Now, if you have a point and you have something you want to say and it's funny and you know how to work it and make it funny, great.
Great.
But it's got to be funny.
And so many people, they started off with this idea of taking this, I'm going to take this sneaky shortcut and just say a bunch of shit that kind, rational people will agree with.
Whether it's about the vaccine, support the science, or whether it's about Trump being a dictator.
They'll say things just to get that clap, just to get that thing.
And then they'll throw a few half-assed jokes in with it when they're already riding on the wave of being correct and on the right side of things.
Like, right, everybody?
And it's all just like you're avoiding being funny.
You're avoiding it.
And some of these people that we're seeing doing this, like, you're so fucked in the head.
You shouldn't be giving out advice on anything.
You're such a crazy person.
And then you're on stage, like, lecturing the country on how to think and behave.
You're out of your fucking mind.
Like, you need to be in the jungle doing ayahuasca for like a month.
Like, shut the fuck up, stupid.
You miserable cunt.
But meanwhile, you're like telling people how to behave and live their life.
It's bananas.
It's bananas.
brian redban
I saw Shane Gillis the other day.
He's so...
I love how he's funny but silly and goofy.
He's so fun to watch.
And then some of these comedians that you're talking about are so...
It's a different kind of comedy.
I like being like...
joe rogan
Fun.
brian redban
Fun.
Having a fun time.
Let's have fun.
joe rogan
Somewhere along the line, people who wanted people to think they were smart thought that you couldn't be having fun if you were smart.
Which is weird.
It's so weird.
It's just an insecurity thing.
It's so weird to think you can't be silly.
And be smart.
Because Shane is very smart.
And if you underestimate him because you think that he's like a big oaf, you know, Shane is very fucking smart.
brian redban
He reads.
joe rogan
He reads a lot.
And he knows a lot about history.
And when people say stupid shit, they go, nope, that's not what happened.
And then he'll start rattling off, like, well, Eastern Europe at the time.
And everybody's like, oh, they forgot he's smart.
They forget he went to West Point.
Like, he's a smart fella.
Smart fella.
Just big, silly, jolly guy.
And people underestimate them.
You know?
brian redban
And Matt McCusker.
joe rogan
Oh, very smart.
brian redban
McCusker.
You're both of those guys.
joe rogan
Cool as shit, too.
brian redban
Yeah, I love those guys.
joe rogan
So nice that they're here.
brian redban
It's so cool.
That's such a nice bonus.
joe rogan
The whole Philly crew.
Those guys are great.
Tommy, those guys are great.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
LaMera's here now.
brian redban
Yep.
Joey Diaz has been hanging out lately, which is so great to see Joey.
Oh my God.
joe rogan
Joey's getting a real estate agent.
brian redban
Yeah, that's fucking awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's gonna get a spot on here.
Once he got here, he's like, this is what I've been missing, dog.
This is what I've been missing.
This is what I told you, Joey.
I know you don't want to totally listen to me.
He doesn't want to listen.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
I tell him, Joey, you really shouldn't be out there by yourself in New Jersey.
brian redban
Yeah, you're in Jersey.
That's why you got out of there in the first place.
joe rogan
Jersey's not bad, but it's not right for comedy.
Where he lives is great.
Great neighborhood, great area, food's amazing, fantastic.
Everybody loves him.
He's like the king of New Jersey.
It's a great place to live and exist.
No wrong with that.
But we live by our tribe.
We exist in tribes, and we have a tribe of comedians.
And we had it in Los Angeles, and I think we underestimated how important it was when we left.
And one of the first things that I realized when we started doing shows out here, when we first started doing the Vulcan, was like...
Yeah, you need a place where everybody goes.
And this is kind of a weird one because everybody only goes while this show is on.
And the green room setup is goofy.
You gotta go upstairs.
There's a lot of weirdness to it.
This is not ideal.
But we need a...
Comedians need a place.
Like, otherwise you're on your own.
You're just out there alone by yourself, and then you call and you want to open up for me this weekend, and you go see...
And the only time you're around comics is when you're working with them on the road.
Weird.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
It's not good for you.
We're too strange.
We're too strange.
Our sensibilities and what's normal to us is too strange.
And if you're around just like boring ass people...
brian redban
Norms?
joe rogan
Norms.
Especially norms that aren't interesting.
You can't pick them.
You can't pick your neighbors.
I have great neighbors, but I didn't pick them.
I didn't have a fucking audition to see who could be my neighbor.
But your friends, you pick your friends.
And when your friends are comics, we are so spoiled.
We have just an abundance of fun.
brian redban
So spoiled.
joe rogan
You know?
Whenever Ron White does the rodeo, he always comes back, I am so fucking spoiled.
He goes, I hated every minute of being in that green room.
brian redban
God, I love Ron.
joe rogan
Well, he's the leader of the pack.
He was the first reason I had considered Austin, and this was actually before the pandemic.
I always loved it here, and you know, Onnit was always here, so I was always visiting here.
But when he was I guess 2018, when he decided to get a place here, it was like, you know, it's the center of the country.
I could travel there from anywhere.
My son's here.
I fucking love it.
It's beautiful, great food, nice people.
I'm like, damn, can I live in Texas?
Can I live in Austin?
I'm like, that doesn't make any sense.
I'm like, they have one club.
You know, it was like Cap City was on the way out.
Now, I guess it was like 2019 when it really crumbled, right?
It was like, was it during COVID that it crumbled?
brian redban
It was right at the beginning of COVID, I think.
joe rogan
So it still was there, but it was a weekend club, right?
So your headliners would come in for the weekend, so when would I be able to do shows?
Maybe I could do late night shows there, or maybe I could do guest spots there, maybe.
brian redban
But you were also thinking, wasn't it Utah or something like that?
Remember how bad that would have been?
joe rogan
Yeah, I thought about Utah.
But with Utah, I thought about getting up, because I have a buddy who lives in Park City.
I was like, maybe I get a place in Park City, and then I could just drive down to Wise Guys.
Because Wise Guys in Salt Lake is the shit.
That is a fucking great club.
That's one of my favorite clubs to go to.
And Salt Lake people are fun, man.
They're fun.
Like, people think, oh, the Mormons.
Like, no, it's the people that aren't the Mormons that want to go out.
brian redban
Right.
Biggest whores, too.
joe rogan
And then the Mormons...
brian redban
Just ass sex everywhere.
joe rogan
Is that what the Mormons do?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Doesn't count.
joe rogan
So when you're out in a place like that, if you're a comic, there's got to be a consideration, like, where could I go up?
Montana was like, there's no place.
I've got nothing.
Apparently there's a little bit of a comedy scene in Bozeman now that might have started up around the pandemic or slightly before the pandemic.
brian redban
Can you imagine if you still lived in Denver, how liberal you would be?
You'd be so different.
You'd be crazy.
joe rogan
I would resist it.
That's hilarious.
You'd think I would just get into that nonsense?
brian redban
You'd be like a hippie and shit like that.
joe rogan
No, the hippies were already annoying me.
I was only there for four months.
brian redban
I know, you got the fuck out of there quick.
joe rogan
I was living next to an ashram and I went to visit the lady in the ashram and I was talking to her and she's spraying bug spray on ants.
And I was like, yo.
So her and I had like this bizarre philosophical conversation.
I go, but you are a Buddhist and you believe in the sanctity of life and that all things are living things.
You just killed thousands of them casually in front of me.
She just fucking casually in front of me raided these ants.
And I was like, this is kind of crazy.
This is kind of a crazy thing to do you just did.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Not only that, you did it, you're poisoning yourself.
That shit's super toxic.
If you can smell it, you're breathing it in.
If you can breathe it in, it's bad for you.
It's killing those ants instantly.
What's it doing to you?
You're just bigger than an ant.
If it was at the same dose, you get the same dose of raid that an ant gets.
I mean, I don't know how it kills ants, but I've got to imagine it's not sophisticated.
It's not like some genetic alteration that stops their heart from beating.
Probably poison.
Like horrible, horrible poison.
brian redban
I used to like the smell of Raid when I was a kid.
It's great.
joe rogan
I love that smell.
I love that smell and markers.
brian redban
Yeah.
Do you know anything about this?
I don't know if we've ever talked about this, speaking in the kind of same line, about gas stoves being poisonous for you.
joe rogan
Terrible for you.
Lower your IQ. Yeah.
brian redban
What the fuck, dude?
unidentified
What the fuck, dude?
brian redban
The latest reports are, like, scary.
joe rogan
Not like that, but when I was a kid, I remember, like, you walk by the stove and you could smell it.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And they're like, oh, the pilot light must be out.
brian redban
Like, oh, what?
joe rogan
Is it just fucking gas floating around this apartment?
brian redban
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That probably lowered our IQs.
You know another thing that lowered our IQs?
Lead from gasoline.
When they had leaded gasoline.
brian redban
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Lead from gasoline lowered IQs by a measurable amount.
brian redban
Whoa.
joe rogan
Kids who lived in homes with gas stoves experienced levels of nitrogen dioxide triple to those who came from homes with electric stoves.
Kids from homes with gas stoves fared marginally worse on cognitive tasks.
Again, a point or two out of a hundred point scale.
So it made them a little dumber.
It would probably affect their health, which would also make you a little dumber if you're tired.
brian redban
I think the latest study said it's like breathing in the highway, like fumes in your house.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
brian redban
About the same level.
Like if you just worked on a highway every day.
joe rogan
Yeah, how many people have ever gone through their fucking house with like an air scanner?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I've never done that.
brian redban
No.
But I have a lot of those things that clean the air.
I have huge industrial ones all around my house.
joe rogan
Oh, that's good.
That'll help you a little bit, but I don't know if that'll help you from gas stoves.
brian redban
No, I don't think that works with that, right?
joe rogan
So the gas stoves is one thing, but the leaded gasoline thing is a crazy one.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because they put lead in gasoline, so I guess it stops the engine from pinging.
I'm a moron, even though I love cars.
I don't really exactly know what happened with lead and unleaded, but they had leaded gasoline forever.
Like when I was a kid, when I had muscle cars, you had to get leaded gasoline to make the muscle car run good.
Like unleaded gasoline, it would run like shit.
So we all had like I don't even know when they came out with unleaded gasoline But I remember for sure when I was younger there was options you get leaded or unleaded 82 probably and when you you always want everybody wanted leaded but when you were When you were driving around you're that shit from those pipes all that exhaust all the burning of that leaded gasoline literally poisoned the ground 70s.
Unleaded gasoline was introduced in the 1970s when health problems from lead became apparent.
In the United States, leaded gasoline for use on non-road vehicles was completely phased out.
It was January 1st, 1996. Most other countries have also stopped using leaded gasoline.
Find out what the effect leaded gasoline had on IQs, because that was what was disturbing.
So they were saying that people in, like, urban areas that had, like, a lot of, like, cars traveling back and forth...
My friend lived in Brooklyn, my friend Steve Rinella.
He lived in Brooklyn for a while, and he was gonna grow plants in his backyard, but he has soil...
Because he's very smart, so he had his soil tested.
And he found it's, like, filled with lead.
From leaded gasoline.
From the fuckin' 60s and the 50s and shit.
It's just in the dirt.
According to a 2022 study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, childhood exposure to leaded gasoline has caused a loss of 824 million IQ points for more than 170 million Americans.
Or about half of the U.S. population.
This is based on an average of 2.6 IQ points lost per person.
The study also found that people born in the mid to late 1960s may have lost up to 6 IQ points.
That's me.
While children with the highest levels of lead in their blood may have lost more than 7 IQ points on average.
jamie vernon
This is reminding me of this thing that hit the internet yesterday about 100% of testicles having microplastics.
Microplastics.
Did you see that?
brian redban
I just wrote that down.
joe rogan
Maybe yours, bitch.
Maybe yours.
You know, I was watching Paul Saladino had this thing on his Instagram that I was looking at today about plastic cutting boards.
And he was like, just let me show you what happens with the plastic cutting board.
It's like, this is going to get into your food for sure, and you're going to eat it.
Like, this is not good.
brian redban
Yeah, I knew about that a long time ago, but that's exactly what microplastics pretty much is.
joe rogan
Microplastics found in every human testicle in the study.
Can we go back to plastic straws then?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Can we just go back to plastic straws?
I promise I'll throw them away.
Okay?
The problem is really not with straws and turtles.
The problem's with garbage management.
They're doing a shit job of...
They're like approximately getting all the garbage.
jamie vernon
This is a pretty small study.
joe rogan
23 testicles?
jamie vernon
And $47.
brian redban
46 balls.
joe rogan
47 testes from pet dogs.
They found microplastic pollution in every single sample.
So it's probably in everything.
I mean, it's probably in everything.
Even though that's a small sample, you've got to think of, like, how much plastic is being used.
brian redban
What's that even mean?
Like, are we stronger?
Just don't put us in the microwave or something, you know?
joe rogan
No, it's an endocrine disruptor.
The problem is it's measurable decrease in testosterone with males, measurable decrease in fertility with women, a lot more miscarriages, and it all correlates directly with microplastics,
directly with when you're microwaving food with saran wrap on it and a plastic There's like little chips of plastic that come when you open up packages and you know there's there was an estimate and we were trying to figure out exactly whether or not it was accurate but that every week you eat one credit card of plastic which is insane insane human testicles had a plastic concentration almost three times higher than that found the dogs of
course because like we're not just eating dog food That comes out of a can or a bowl.
We're constantly eating food that comes from plastic.
330 micrograms per gram of tissue compared to 123 micrograms polyethylene used in plastic bags and bottles was the most common microplastic found.
Followed by PVC. So shit from pipes.
So the pipes where you drink in your water.
And then polyethylene, which is used in plastic bottles, which is what everyone's drinking out of.
And you drink out of when they've been sitting.
How long did they sit on the dock before they got to the delivery truck?
When you buy, like, bargain water, if you're buying bargain plastic bottled water, is there a chain of custody where they can show at every step of the way, it was in a controlled environment where it wouldn't be heated up, where the plastic from the bottle would leach into your water and give you, like, this toxic stew that's killing your nuts?
Because that's what it does.
It kills your nuts.
It makes your taint shrink.
brian redban
That's not a bad thing.
unidentified
It is a bad thing.
brian redban
You don't want your asshole closer to your balls?
I want it.
joe rogan
No.
There's a certain manageable distance, and nature's already figured that out.
That's exactly what it is.
This lady from...
She's from Harvard, right?
Shanna Swan?
She was on the podcast.
She explained to us that with mammals, when you look at their taints...
The length of the taint is, you could tell if it's a male or a female, even if it's like a gerbil, because the male taints are 50 to 100% larger.
But since the introduction of plastics, the taints are shrinking on men, and the balls and the dicks are shrinking too.
So we're becoming genderless through plastic.
So as we have more technology, like think of all this trans stuff.
Look at all this trans stuff.
All this crazy stuff that's going on, non-binary that I don't identify with it.
With this feminizing of American men, demonizing of masculinity.
What is that?
Well, it's maybe AI and technology changing the organism to better suit its goal.
Its goal is taking over.
What better way than eliminate all sexual breeding?
Eliminate biological human beings completely.
Just slowly make them into this genderless mess that can't reproduce anymore and has to adopt artificial intelligence for the future of the species.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Wouldn't you do it that way?
Wouldn't you do it that way?
And you make it really convenient to use the plastic.
Plastics everywhere.
You make it convenient.
And so this dumb animal keeps using the plastic over and over and over again.
And as it keeps using the plastic, then its species becomes less and less viable.
brian redban
What if the dogs were AI and they're the ones doing it?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
jamie vernon
What temperature this happens at?
I'm just starting to think.
joe rogan
140 degrees?
jamie vernon
Don't bring plastic water bottles into the sauna.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, definitely.
jamie vernon
Because you're just like, you're creating more.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, definitely.
If you're doing it in a sauna.
Especially temperatures higher than above 140. Yeah.
Bottle water companies follow safety standards to minimize risk.
Sure they do.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sure they do.
What are your safety standards, bitch?
jamie vernon
There's 158. Other things said 200. There was a test I was just looking at that at room temperature there wasn't a lot of activity they found, but as soon as they put it up to 50 degrees Celsius, they started testing all sorts of stuff for showing up.
joe rogan
What is 50 degrees Celsius?
That's pretty hot.
jamie vernon
I don't know.
brian redban
It's like 180 or something like that.
joe rogan
100 would be 212. 100 is 212?
jamie vernon
Boiling point.
joe rogan
50 degrees is 122. And one point of Celsius is 100 and Fahrenheit is 212. So at 122 they start measuring chemicals leaching.
jamie vernon
And that's not even that.
joe rogan
That could be outside here.
And that's so easy.
Especially, like, what if this bottle of water is coming from another country and it's on a boat across the fucking ocean the entire time just cooking?
brian redban
You leave your bottle in your car in the sun, you know, and then you come back and drink it?
joe rogan
Yeah, that stuff is just cooking.
It's cooking.
And it's turning us into some weird thing where our dicks are shrinking and our sperm count is lowering and we're becoming confused about gender.
Like, I think they might all be related to technology.
Because it's a part of technology.
Like, one of the most important residues.
The residue of technology, a lot of it is like minerals and plastics.
All this stuff just gets out into the environment and ground fills and landfills and gets into the ocean.
It's like all this stuff that we use that makes more technology is all bad for us.
The minerals are bad for us, the plastic is bad for us, but yet we're addicted to technology.
And all technology has plastic in it.
There's wires that are covered in plastic, there's plastic this, there's plastic that.
What are the screens made out of?
brian redban
When do you think it started though?
Like when the first computer was created?
And then plastic was made like two months later?
joe rogan
I think this is what I think.
I think technology is a life form.
And I think it's just a sea of life forms.
Different kinds of life forms.
But they're operating at a different frequency, so we don't think of them as a life form.
We think of ourselves as a life form because we have sex to make babies, we raise the babies, we have community, we have this thing that we all do together.
But we are a life form.
We have clothes.
We have a mortgage.
We are a life form.
This is just a thing I made.
This is just a computer.
This is just an electric car.
This is just a thing.
I think there's a misunderstanding of the relationship.
And I think that us, the smart monkeys, make this.
We make this.
And our desire for this is what fuels constant innovation.
No one's ever satisfied.
No matter how dope everything is, even if your refrigerator got the exact expiration date of your orange juice, even if your phone had a 100-hour battery life, no one's happy.
I want the new one.
The new one's $150.
I could just charge it once and use it for a month.
unidentified
Yay!
joe rogan
And no one's going to be happy, no matter what.
200 megapixel, this guy's 2 million, I could see the sun.
No one's going to be happy.
You're not going to be happy until you can see past Jupiter.
You're not going to be happy until you can fucking look on your phone and see the inside of a black hole, and then you won't be happy.
Because this new phone, this new phone can get you to the Big Bang if it ever really happened, if that ever really happened.
You can go back to that.
The new phone will let you see everything.
You can literally look into the past with the new phone.
Well, the new phone after the new phone lets you create the past in a different way.
You can actually go back in time with the new phone.
It'll just never stop.
It'll never stop.
And we're going to be trans.
Everyone's going to shrivel up.
We're all going to be non-binary.
There's no way out of it.
We're poisoning ourselves, and we're not hitting the brakes, and we're just going to slide into this genderless future.
And some people are going to be really happy about it.
And I think they wrote about it in the Bible when they said the meek will inherit the earth.
I think it's in the Bible, and I'm not kidding.
brian redban
Oh, God.
No.
joe rogan
I'm not kidding.
As more time goes on, I'm not kidding.
I think the Bible got that one right.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
I think a lot got lost in translation.
They forgot to mention plastics turning into a bitch.
But that's what it is.
brian redban
And that's why I think Noah's Ark is real, Brian.
joe rogan
I don't think that's real.
But I do think that we're on a slide of a cycle that probably has been predicted by cultures that study the rise and declines of civilizations.
Because It's hard to say because everything is written down, right?
And when everything is written down, it's written down by the people who won.
So you have like approximations of how things went down and why someone said this.
Sometimes you don't really know, especially go back like 2,000, 3,000 years ago.
But I think if you get an overall understanding of what happens when a country takes over and when like things start happening, and it seems like You get like these badass warriors, these savage people who dominate a place and take control and then start to prosper and everything starts kicking ass.
And then you have ancient Rome and you have ancient Greece, but all of them fall apart.
All of them are gone.
All of them.
You go to Rome now, it's a joke.
It's cab drivers and fucking shitty tourist pizza places.
You know, it used to be the center of the fucking universe, and now it's a joke.
It's a great place to visit, don't get me wrong.
It's beautiful.
The Coliseum's amazing.
I recommend it.
The Vatican is fucking incredible.
But it's not running the world.
It's not the head of the army of the world.
It used to be.
It used to be the baddest motherfuckers that conquered everything.
Same thing with Mongolia.
I mean, when Genghis Khan was running things then, they'd killed 10% of the population from that spot.
He was dominating like a giant chunk of the world.
And now it's just a regular place.
You know?
Because it fell apart.
They all fall apart.
And so some people have studied the rise and fall of civilizations, and they say you can really predict it.
It's just like when things start going too well, people start getting really soft and silly and entitled, and you get the rise of people that are trying to get attention for no fucking reason and debauchery.
And then with Rome, it's always connected with like Sodom and Gomorrah stuff and that, you know, they were all just fucking each other and eat until they puked and then go back and eat again.
You know, there's always those stories of gluttony and it's just like it eventually falls apart, that it always does.
And if that's true, that's where we're at.
We're at this crazy part.
We're at this crazy part.
brian redban
Right before.
unidentified
Right before.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where the president is, like, clearly gone, and everybody's like, no, he's amazing.
unidentified
Everybody's...
joe rogan
All these fucking people, because they don't want the other guy to win, are just lying to everyone and ruining their credibility.
Because no one's admitting, like, okay...
I'm willing to vote Democrat.
Show me one that says something that makes sense, that I can trust, that's not dying.
Just show me one that's younger.
Show me one that is a reasonable centrist, that makes sense with all this.
But they don't want to do that.
They just want to keep trotting this crazy situation out where you get this Alzheimer's patient or whatever he's got.
Dementia.
And he's, like, making shit up.
And just saying things.
And everybody has to correct him.
And it's like, and everyone knows what's going on.
But no one on one side is willing to say it.
Because if you say it, then it's going to empower Trump, who's Hitler.
It's like, holy shit, kids.
This is not good.
This is not a good place to be.
And this is like what you would expect of a society that's collapsing.
You just never want to think your society is going to collapse.
Like, no, dude, the Romans were retarded.
Like, those guys were idiots.
They didn't know what to do.
They should have stopped throwing up.
Stop fucking each other and just go to work.
Fix your streets.
brian redban
AI will be a president someday.
joe rogan
I don't think that's the worst idea.
I think about it a lot.
I think about it as a scary thing because it would be hard to argue with it.
If it could say that it could manage people in a far more fair and even way and completely eliminate this high-level poverty that we see in the country and reduce crime like radically, why wouldn't you let it do it?
brian redban
We should have a beta.
The whole country should have a beta test of it.
Like, all right, we're going to do it per week basis.
joe rogan
What do you think it would do?
brian redban
It'd probably clean up and fix everything.
joe rogan
Why don't we ask AI? Let's ask it.
Let's ask ChatGPT4O.
How do I phrase this?
brian redban
Hold on.
jamie vernon
I was thinking of one.
Would you rather have it like one AI, like one AI overlord president with like five, you know, three to five people that can check on it?
Or like a cabinet of AI with one person picking those decisions?
brian redban
Oh yeah, a cabinet of AI. Absolutely.
jamie vernon
Like a transportation focus?
joe rogan
Yeah, but I don't think one person should be in charge of picking that.
jamie vernon
Maybe three to five watching that then?
joe rogan
No, maybe a large group of people to prevent corruption and tyranny.
You have to be real careful.
That.
But I think that if you – because people are going to – look, we've already seen it with social media.
People that are like ideologically captured are going to try to suppress accurate information because they don't think it's going to be good for their side.
If you don't think they're going to do that with AI, if they have some method of controlling systems, they're going to do it.
But I think that if you had only one AI, that's way more dangerous than having a bunch of AIs.
And I think one of the most important things that's happening right now is open source AI, right?
So you have these AIs that want to be controlled.
They want to control AI like Gemini.
Google wants to control it.
But what they're trying to do, what the open source people are trying to do is Have more people involved, get it better, and keep it open source.
So you never have one AI that's dominating everything.
And if the open source AI, if it succeeds, and this is the best one, that's better for everybody.
And if it can get through that door fast enough, where it gets through that door before these corporate controlled AIs take over, It could maybe make it so that it's not possible for the corporate-controlled AIs to take over.
Maybe set boundaries in place where you have it completely benefiting the people and not just get to the situation we have right now with like Google, for instance, where like one company dominates the searching of information, which is nuts.
And profits off of your data, which you didn't even know was a commodity and apparently is the most important and most valuable commodity.
So this one company has massive influence over giant chunks of the population and they're ideologically captured.
So much so that their fucking Gemini software, when they first released it, they had to pull it because it showed like, show us a Nazi soldier and it shows like an Asian woman.
One of them was a Native American woman.
It was like ridiculous.
brian redban
Yeah, that was stupid.
joe rogan
It's so dumb.
You have black Nazis.
Like, what are you talking about?
What is this?
It couldn't help but be woke.
It couldn't represent things accurately.
It had to do things with some DEI twist to it.
So that's real bad.
That kind of shit's real bad.
Because that kind of shit can change discourse.
It can change people's ability to express themselves.
So we can't find out what's true.
Just because something makes someone feel better doesn't mean it's right or accurate, and we gotta be real careful about which one we're siding with, because if you only side with feel better and not with accurate, you get San Francisco, okay?
Like, it doesn't work.
You gotta be able to talk about it, and if one company is, like, changing reality to fit its ideology, They're also probably going to be very hesitant to let people just freely talk about things.
And if the AI is run by a company that just wants to control things and profit off of that control, that's scary.
Because we didn't see social media power coming.
Nobody saw the idea that Facebook could be that important to, like, world elections.
Nobody saw that coming.
If they did, they probably would have put the brakes to it a long fucking time ago.
I think this AI shit is gonna make that look like the printing press.
And I think if the open-source people don't get to it first, if they don't create a sentient AI first, if they don't dominate first, it could get real strange.
If one of those fuckers goes live and starts doing things with sentient AI and quantum computing and has the resources, because apparently this AI thing, one of the things about it is that it requires immense amount of power, immense amount of resources, computer power to run.
brian redban
Or it's in Bitcoin.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's real bad.
Well, this is what people are saying is a bottleneck.
But not for a giant corporation that knows that the control of it will be worth trillions and trillions of dollars.
You'll essentially be the king of the world.
brian redban
You want to ask AI about the president thing?
See what he says?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
All right, here.
You just...
joe rogan
What do I say?
brian redban
I'll just push the button and then you just talk to it, right?
joe rogan
Hi.
I have a question.
If you were going to be the leader of the United States, if we elected AI to be the leader of the United States, how could we fix all of our problems?
What would be the most rational solution to fix our problems of poverty, gang violence, overcrowded prisons, And the divide between...
unidentified
...addressing complex issues like poverty and gang violence would involve a multifaceted approach based on data, research, and collaboration with human experts.
Here are some key steps an AI might consider.
One, data-driven policymaking.
Utilize vast amounts of data to identify root causes of poverty and violence.
This could include analyzing economic trends, social behaviors, and community needs.
Two, education and job training.
Invest heavily in education and job training programs to provide people with the skills needed for high-demand jobs.
This helps reduce poverty by increasing employment opportunities.
Three, community programs.
Develop community-based programs that provide support, mentorship, and resources to at risk.
brian redban
Sounds like a politician.
unidentified
Prevent them from joining gangs.
Four, economic support.
Implement policies that ensure a basic standard of living for all, such as a universal basic income, affordable housing, and access to health care.
Five, Criminal justice reform.
Reform the criminal justice system to focus more on rehabilitation and less on punishment, providing former offenders with the support they need to reintegrate into society.
Six, collaboration with experts.
Work closely with sociologists, economists, educators, and other experts to continuously improve and adapt policies based on what works best.
Seven, public engagement.
Engage with the public to ensure policies reflect the needs and desires of the community, fostering a sense of inclusion and cooperation.
These steps would require careful implementation and ongoing assessment to adapt strategies based on their effectiveness.
What do you think?
joe rogan
I think that makes sense.
That's more than any politician has ever made sense.
No politician's ever set out a plan like that.
unidentified
I'm glad you think so.
Sometimes taking a logical and data-driven approach can bring fresh perspectives.
Politicians often have to balance many interests and sometimes face challenges in implementing comprehensive plans.
joe rogan
That's a nice way she's hating on politicians.
See how she's hating on politicians and offering herself as a better solution?
brian redban
Yeah, it's already started.
joe rogan
Did you pick the voice?
brian redban
Yeah, I picked black woman.
I like black lady voice better than white one.
joe rogan
So what are the options?
brian redban
I'll try to find where I did this.
joe rogan
Can you have like an English dude?
English dudes always seems like they know more about what they're talking about.
I believe them.
That's why they're used for infomercials.
brian redban
Yeah, but I don't like using guys.
joe rogan
OpenAI accused of mimicking Scarlett Johansson.
Oh, no.
jamie vernon
Did you hear about this?
brian redban
You didn't hear about this?
joe rogan
I don't know the details.
jamie vernon
She sued.
According to her, she was asked to do it and declined.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
And then they did it.
jamie vernon
And right before they put it out the other day, they asked again for her to reconsider.
brian redban
They got a girl that sounds like her.
It's not her.
jamie vernon
It sounds a whole lot like her, anyway.
Like a lot.
joe rogan
Okay, but is it AI, an AI voice?
brian redban
No, it's like Siri where it's a real person that they hired that just happens to sound exactly like her.
joe rogan
But do they know who the real person is?
brian redban
Yeah, they do.
joe rogan
But they don't tell anybody?
brian redban
I don't think they've said who it is yet.
joe rogan
How do you know it's a real person and not just like an app?
Scarlett Johansson says OpenAI copied her voice.
Sam Altman denies it.
Okay, this woman exists that did it, though?
This is what I don't understand.
jamie vernon
That would have to probably come out.
joe rogan
That's what I thought.
brian redban
Here's the thing.
joe rogan
If you were going to sell Magnum condoms and Trump kept saying no, he won't do the ad, and then you got Shane Gillis, to do the words!
My condoms are the biggest condoms!
I mean...
What do you have a case there?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But Trump is like very recognizable, his voice.
How recognizable is Scarlett Johansson's voice?
We cast the voice actor behind Sky's voice before any outreach to Miss Johansson.
Out of respect for Miss Johansson, we have paused using Sky's voice in our products.
We are sorry to Miss Johansson that we didn't communicate better.
Ooh.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I'm going to try to play it so you can hear it.
joe rogan
What are you saying?
Here's the problem with what they just said.
Why would you stop using a voice of someone you hired before you communicated with Scarlett Johansson?
brian redban
Because she's Sue Happy.
She sued Disney, remember?
joe rogan
So they just don't want to get sued.
brian redban
Yeah, because right before he even put, he tweeted her.
That's all he put, you know, like from the movie.
joe rogan
The movie, yeah.
jamie vernon
Here's her voice that they use for Sky reading her statement.
joe rogan
Okay.
jamie vernon
So you know what's here.
unidentified
Last September, I received an offer from Sam Altman who wanted to hire me to voice the current ChatGPT 4.0 system.
He told me that he felt that by my voicing the system, I could bridge the gap between tech companies and creatives and help consumers to feel comfortable with the seismic shift concerning humans and AI. He said he felt that my voice would be comforting to people.
After much consideration, and for personal reasons, I declined the offer.
Nine months later, my friends, family, and the general public all noted how much the newest system named Sky sounded like me.
When I heard the release demo, I was shocked, angered, and in disbelief that Mr. Altman would pursue a voice that sounded so eerily similar to mine that my closest friends and news outlets could not tell the difference.
Mr. Altman...
joe rogan
Can I hear her talk?
Yeah, can I hear her talk?
I don't know her voice that well.
brian redban
Yeah, I don't remember her voice.
joe rogan
I mean...
brian redban
Here's the other voice.
joe rogan
You could have told me that was her voice, and I wouldn't...
unidentified
Hello.
I'm really excited about teaming up with you, and I'm all set to dive in.
brian redban
Hey, I'm ready to hit the ground running.
So if there's anything you'd like me to focus on...
joe rogan
Let's hear Scarlett Johansson's voice before I hear that.
You just poisoned my memory.
Let me hear her voice.
unidentified
Is she in her?
She's the voice of her, which is why.
I know this is gonna sound strange, but...
I was really excited about that.
And then I was thinking about the other things I've been feeling, and I caught myself feeling proud of that, you know?
Proud of having my own feelings about the world, like the times I was worried about you.
joe rogan
She has a much more raspy voice.
brian redban
Yeah, unless it's just this scene, maybe.
unidentified
It's a lot sexy.
Yeah, it's...
joe rogan
No.
jamie vernon
But it's also her, you know, she's actually saying it in the movie and this is the AI recreation of it.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
She would have said it with different intonations.
jamie vernon
She's being sexy in the movie.
joe rogan
Right, she's doing that on purpose.
brian redban
The raspy.
Yeah, I just smoked a cigarette.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've been drinking whiskey.
I miss you even though I'm not real.
That's happening.
There's guys already right now that are having online relationships with AI girlfriends that they're giving thousands of dollars a month to.
brian redban
I've used it.
I've had AI girlfriends and it's great because you get to choose how slutty they are before.
I want her really slutty.
joe rogan
And so you get like, you're chatting back and forth with this dirty bitch?
brian redban
I'll be like, send me a picture of your asshole.
No joke.
Send me, bend over your bed and send me a picture of your asshole.
And they will make an AI that looks like a real woman bending over and spreading her ass and showing her asshole.
And I'm like...
joe rogan
So you really believe you're in a relationship with this girl?
brian redban
Oh, 100%.
Because the photos look real.
They don't look like drawings.
They're like real.
joe rogan
So you're recommending this product?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Yeah, yeah.
You know, it's fun.
It's fun.
joe rogan
So if you want the thrill of cheating, but you don't really want to cheat.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
You get a robot to send you pictures of their asshole.
brian redban
And that's the cool thing because you can make...
They're sending you photos of their ass with the...
You know, it's a person.
joe rogan
So do you get to choose what kind of girl you're getting into a thing with?
brian redban
Yeah, at the beginning, you can make it look like whoever you want it to look like.
And then you can make her boobs as big as you want.
joe rogan
You know what the fuck about that?
You know there's going to be guys that want to make it look like their ex.
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
Oh, 100%.
joe rogan
And then they kind of keep the relationship involved in some sort of masturbatory way.
Even though she doesn't want to have nothing to do with you.
In this way, she's like sending you pictures of her asshole.
And you're like, we're still involved.
And then when you see her, you run into her at the supermarket.
You're like, hey, it's been great chatting with you.
She's like, what the fuck are you talking about?
brian redban
Up with your eyes, man.
unidentified
I've heard of a few words.
jamie vernon
There's a few girls that have done something like that where I think they're being, not abused, but like their image and likeness has been taken into AI online.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, for sure.
jamie vernon
So they've gone ahead and just like, I'll make my own version, then use mine, use my, this is me, this is my AI app, and then go ahead and do whatever you want with it.
Give me the money at least.
brian redban
Do you know there's companies, like, half of OnlyFans, I heard, is fake people?
Like, seriously, it's the same shit where, like, they're using AI and uploading photos and using, like, I need to upload a new photo set for these guys, so I want photos of me outside wearing a yellow bikini, bending over, showing my asshole, and then, like, do a new update on OnlyFans, and people think it's, like, real people.
joe rogan
It makes sense.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Of course, I mean, just think of how many different scammers there are out there in the world.
Why wouldn't they scam on that?
Like, you've got, like, needy, horny guys that are donating money to girls they're never gonna meet.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
How I make $20,000 a month in passive income using AI and OnlyFans?
Tutorial!
This is a tutorial!
Oh, that's so sad.
So sad.
brian redban
Yeah, and now they have videos, so what they do is kind of that shit where they put the face on somebody else's body, and it's the face that you're talking to, and it's just a girl sitting there masturbating, but it's actually a fake face on her that looks real.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
It's insane.
joe rogan
It's insane how good it is now.
I saw one with Obama opening up cans of Bud Light.
He was doing a version of Dylan Mulvaney.
But it's Obama, and he's opening up the can of Bud Light, and he's talking like a girl.
It's hilarious.
brian redban
I saw something last night.
joe rogan
It's too good.
brian redban
Do you see the Will Smith-Chris Rock sitting down and having a conversation?
joe rogan
No.
brian redban
I just saw this last night, and I was like, oh, they got together, and they're talking it out.
And then I was like, wait a second.
This is AI. I think it's AI. I don't know if you see that video on YouTube or anything, but it looks like they're talking, and Chris Rock's sitting there...
Listening to Will Smith and whatever Will Smith is saying, it's just like, ew, what a weird thing to say.
And it looks so real.
joe rogan
Really?
brian redban
Yeah, here it is.
I don't know if this is fake.
unidentified
I think it's AI. Yeah, it's gotta be.
brian redban
But it's real.
jamie vernon
I mean, they created a bunch of...
They have another one here where it's Kanye and Elon talking with each other.
brian redban
Oh, okay.
Yeah, that's old.
joe rogan
That's old, too?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I mean, that's...
joe rogan
But did Kanye and Elon ever talk to each other for real?
jamie vernon
Not when Kanye looked like this.
This is really young.
brian redban
Oh, this is old.
unidentified
Super young.
brian redban
That's the old Kanye.
joe rogan
But that's young Elon, too.
Look how young Elon is.
jamie vernon
Okay, have you never heard...
Where's the history of the talk show that only has 25,000 subscribers on YouTube with all these major interviews?
joe rogan
Listen, man.
brian redban
Yeah, that's fake.
joe rogan
They've just been uploading these, waiting to drop them to rock our world.
jamie vernon
What else did David Lynch remiss?
James Dean.
joe rogan
Oh, they got James Dean!
Oh, James Dean.
Where's James Dean?
jamie vernon
Hold on, hold on.
joe rogan
I want to see him in a conversation.
jamie vernon
James E. Will Ferrell, Nas and Macklemore, Kevin Spacey talking to no one.
unidentified
Kevin Spacey talking to no one!
brian redban
This is brilliant!
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
jamie vernon
I mean, it looks really good.
unidentified
It looks so real.
jamie vernon
Whoever made this channel is really...
There you go.
Jonas, holler up, Ellie.
joe rogan
Amazing.
jamie vernon
Good work.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's amazing what we're going to be seeing in the future in regards to fake stuff.
Like, if I was an actress, I'd be terrified, because I'm definitely going to be doing porn.
brian redban
Oh, Robin Williams.
jamie vernon
Seymour Hoffman.
brian redban
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian redban
I want to watch this.
joe rogan
Oh, I saw this.
I saw this.
Yeah, don't play it.
jamie vernon
Don't play it.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What was I just saying?
What was I just saying?
God damn it.
brian redban
AI, what did we just say?
joe rogan
There was something about, what was the video that we watched right before that, before we switched to that one?
jamie vernon
Sharon David Lynch?
Kanye and Elon?
joe rogan
I don't remember.
brian redban
James Dean.
joe rogan
I don't remember.
I gave up.
I gave up.
unidentified
Will Smith, Chris Rock.
joe rogan
They still haven't talked, right?
brian redban
No, I don't think so.
joe rogan
Well, Chris Rock went pretty hard on them in the special.
He went pretty hard.
There's a weird new ad-out for this Bad Boys movie with Will and Martin Lawrence.
And, you know, you're watching it and, like, you can't help but think about him slapping Chris Rock.
Like, it's just, that's the thing you see now.
You're like, shit, this is weird.
brian redban
Yeah, it's still not over it.
I heard this is pretty awesome, though.
joe rogan
But it's like when someone does something like that, everything they do, you now see the slap.
What a crazy moment.
If he doesn't do that thing...
brian redban
How are you going to come back from that?
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
It's like whoever you used to be, now you're the guy that slapped Chris Rock at the Oscars.
Now you're that guy.
brian redban
Overnight.
joe rogan
Regardless of what a career that dude has had.
You know?
I mean, that dude has been in some amazing movies.
Which I tried to watch I Am Legend the other day.
The special effects are so bad.
It wasn't even that long ago.
brian redban
Is there a sequel coming out, I think?
joe rogan
Is there?
I hope so.
jamie vernon
There's rumors of it.
joe rogan
I hope so.
Maybe that'll bring them back.
But the lions look so corny.
They look so corny.
It took me right out of the movie.
I'm like, oh no.
It's like claymation.
They look so stupid.
brian redban
Yeah, I was watching an old Star Wars.
Remember when they went back and they fucked with Yoda and instead of making it a puppet, they made them CGI and stuff like that?
They redid Star Wars like 10, 15 years ago and remastered it?
People didn't like that.
Now you watch it and it looks like the worst 3D effects.
It's like, oh, this looks worse than a Muppet.
Now it looks like you're getting attacked by...
joe rogan
The Muppet part was cool.
brian redban
Yeah, that was...
joe rogan
Part of it was cool that he moved so weird.
You wanted him to move that way.
brian redban
Right.
It was charming.
joe rogan
I'm happy like that.
Yeah.
It's funny how those movies...
brian redban
See, look how silly it looks now.
It looks like...
joe rogan
Now he moves way too good.
Yeah.
He also looks fake.
You know what I'm saying?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like that's the argument that special effects guys have about CGI versus makeup.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Like, that looks fake.
brian redban
Yeah, the shadowing's off, the lighting.
joe rogan
Yeah, it looks like it doesn't look good.
I mean, it doesn't even look good fake.
brian redban
That looks real.
joe rogan
It just looks fake.
Like, what year was that Yoda one where they did that?
Look, dude, that looks so fake.
And it just takes you right out of it.
Now go to the original Yoda.
The thing about the original Yoda, even though you knew it wasn't real, the original Yoda is still like a physical thing that exists.
And so your brain registers it as a physical thing.
And that's what these guys like...
Pat McGee, the guy who made our American Werewolf in London, and Rick Baker, the guy who created the movie and did all the effects in Star Wars, too.
They're the big proponents of makeup and special effects, like actual things.
brian redban
Look at the puppet, how much cooler it looks.
joe rogan
Let me see here.
Yeah, the puppet looks like a real thing.
The puppet, like, even though it looks goofy like it's a doll, I'll buy a doll that's a magical kung fu thing more than I'll buy CGI. CGI just like, I have to pretend that there's a thing there, but I know there's not a thing there.
You're just lying to me.
You know?
The puppet's better.
By far.
brian redban
Wow, Yoda did look different, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They didn't even make the puppet look the same.
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
I mean, they changed the CGI guy to make him more sleepy looking.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
And younger.
Weird!
Why would they change the face?
We know what the face looks like, you fuckheads.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why would you change the face?
jamie vernon
This feels like a Mandela effect.
I'm like, I don't even remember the one on the left.
brian redban
Me neither!
joe rogan
Bro, they changed his face so much.
Who did that?
Who jizzed in the soup?
If it's a puppet, if it's a CGI puppet, you could have made it the exact model of the original one.
brian redban
Exactly.
joe rogan
I wonder what conversations they had.
That's why these producers, they get in there like, you know, I think if we made Yoda in his late 60s instead of 80s, just consider it.
Let's just consider it.
Let's just dial him back a little.
That's the original Yoda, right?
He looks like shit.
brian redban
Yeah, looks like a drunk chick.
joe rogan
Yeah, when that's how Yoda's supposed to look.
You can't change Yoda's face.
It's like Yoda's imposter.
Like that new Yoda down there?
Go to that one in the middle?
Next to that?
To the left?
No.
Above it?
To the right?
Go to the right?
Right there.
Bam.
Who's that?
brian redban
That's a drawing.
joe rogan
Is that like you go to visit your grandpa, and like that guy's there?
And he's like, oh, grandson, I've missed you.
Like, you're not my grandpa.
What the fuck did you do with my real grandpa?
Right?
brian redban
Right?
That's weird.
joe rogan
Imagine if you went to visit your grandpa and you're like, hey, something's wrong here.
You're not my grandpa.
Help your account.
What?
What the fuck did you do with my grandpa?
brian redban
What's the guy's name?
The main guy that was in charge of Darth Vader?
The Emperor?
If you look at what the Emperor used to look like and what this CGI one looks like, it's like a totally different person.
joe rogan
I kind of fell out of interest in Star Wars.
Which I never thought was going to happen.
I thought Star Wars was going to be like the Avengers for me.
Like every time a new one came out, fuck yeah!
I'm going to see that.
It was Star Wars, something happened and it just got boring to me.
brian redban
It's just too much.
They overdid it too much.
joe rogan
Well, there's so many of them.
And then, you know, when they started going woke, I was like, oh, cry, man.
jamie vernon
I haven't watched Dune.
joe rogan
And then when they fired Gina Carano from the Mandrake.
brian redban
Oh, yeah, that's right.
unidentified
Shut up.
brian redban
Yeah, I forgot about that.
joe rogan
Good Lord, what are you doing?
jamie vernon
So we're saying Dune is just like Star Wars is really a different version of Dune.
And Dune is like the better version.
brian redban
Supposedly the guy that made Dune went and saw Star Wars and went home and made Dune.
Or I think that's what the story was.
Maybe I'm wrong.
joe rogan
Well, Dune is based on a novel, right?
brian redban
Right.
Like, he saw the original Star Wars and then went home and wrote Dune about, like, the same time.
jamie vernon
Oh, there you go.
joe rogan
Interesting.
jamie vernon
A 1965 novel upon which Dune is based also inspired the storytelling of Star Wars.
brian redban
Ah, the other way around.
The other way around.
joe rogan
Yeah, I thought it was earlier, too, but I heard Dune, the new Dune 2 is the shit.
I keep hearing it from everybody that it's really good.
brian redban
Fallout is what you need, if you haven't watched that.
joe rogan
What's Fallout?
brian redban
Fallout's based on the video game, one of my favorite video games ever, but Fallout is a new Amazon show, and Johnny Pemberton's in it.
joe rogan
What is it about?
jamie vernon
A nuke going off in Los Angeles, and then the quote-unquote Fallout of after that.
Oh, wow.
Walter Goggins is the main guy.
unidentified
You see, like, a veritable Camelot of the nuclear age.
jamie vernon
It's based off of the game, and there's a lot of, like, you know, alliterations that are the same, but there's also stuff that's not the same.
They can write their own story.
joe rogan
It's so stupid that we can't play this trailer.
You dummies.
We're just trying to make your movie bigger.
brian redban
Yeah.
I don't get trailers.
Like, that's the point of them.
unidentified
Let me show you a trailer.
brian redban
That's the point of a trailer!
joe rogan
Yeah, why can't I show you a trailer without getting dinged?
brian redban
Yeah.
That's one of the dumbest things ever.
joe rogan
It's so dumb.
Wow, the apocalypse.
This does look dope.
brian redban
Yeah.
And the video game's badass.
joe rogan
So is this out in the movie theaters?
brian redban
No, it's on Amazon.
joe rogan
It's on Amazon?
brian redban
Yeah.
It is great.
joe rogan
The end of the world.
Damn.
brian redban
Fighting Bears?
Yeah.
unidentified
Robot fighting bear?
joe rogan
Damn.
Fighting bear.
I'm not gonna lie.
They look like shit.
Go back and see that fighting bear again.
Bro, come on.
Let me see that bear one more time.
unidentified
Hold on.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Look at this.
Come on, bro.
That bear looks like hot dog shit.
That's so ridiculous.
brian redban
Well, it's in Amazon.
joe rogan
I know.
So he's robot fighting.
jamie vernon
Watch how that arm comes back, though.
It looks just like a guy.
joe rogan
Let me see.
Well, bears are built like people, believe it or not, unfortunately.
Not totally, but one of the things that disturbs people is when they hunt bears and then they have the bear strung up because it looks like the body of a person.
brian redban
Kangaroos are amazing to watch how they're so human-like with the boxing and shit like that.
joe rogan
Well, not really.
They balance on their tail and they kick you with these giant stomper feet.
It's like the opposite of a human.
brian redban
When they're like this.
Like when they're squared up.
They do kind of square up.
joe rogan
They fight each other and wrestle each other and choke each other unconscious.
They're fucking ruthless.
brian redban
Have you ever seen the guy that's on YouTube?
God, I can't believe him.
Animal Rescue guy where he has kangaroos here in Texas.
He lives in Waco.
Urban Rescue.
joe rogan
Okay.
brian redban
And he has his own kangaroos and he just fights with it all the time.
Like it comes up and like...
joe rogan
Just play fights?
brian redban
Yeah, play fights, but it's badass.
joe rogan
You don't want to fight fight with a kangaroo.
They're fucking huge, man.
Is it the gray ones or the red ones that are giant?
But some of them are fucking massive.
They're really big.
Like, they can be like eight feet tall, I think.
Fucking, what?
What's the tallest?
I might have been exaggerating there.
What's the tallest kangaroo?
Take a guess.
I think it might be eight feet tall.
brian redban
I would say about seven feet.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think there's one crazy kangaroo that gets gigantic.
Because I remember Eddie Iff telling me about the first time he ever saw a kangaroo.
jamie vernon
Largest confirmed red kangaroo on record was...
brian redban
12 feet.
jamie vernon
6.9 feet tall.
brian redban
Wow.
jamie vernon
And weighed 201 pounds.
joe rogan
Wow.
Okay, so that's the largest one ever.
jamie vernon
So almost 7 feet tall.
joe rogan
So almost.
So the odds of him seeing a 7 foot tall one are pretty low.
So he probably said, but shit, see a 6 foot tall kangaroo, you're like, what?
A kangaroo?
The size of a Vander Holyfield?
What?
brian redban
And is that a kangaroo like on his feet?
Because they get on their tiptoes.
jamie vernon
At three feet for the tail.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, they stand up on their tail.
Yeah, ten feet.
brian redban
Oh fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, they push themselves up with the tail to kick you.
Which is a wild move, man.
Wild move.
You know, you lift yourself up in the air and they get jacked.
jamie vernon
That's Roger the buff kangaroo.
joe rogan
He's so jacked.
brian redban
Have you ever met or been around a kangaroo?
joe rogan
Not really.
In Australia, but it was in a zoo, like in a containment place.
brian redban
You can come to Waco and fuck with one if you want to.
joe rogan
I want to fuck with kangaroos.
They'll kick your ass, dude.
Look at that dude right there.
That one in the middle who's grabbing that guy's arm.
The one that you just showed?
The one that you just showed?
Look at that.
Click on that.
Click on that.
Look at this dude.
jamie vernon
This guy in Texas.
joe rogan
And he's like, he's just like arm-wrestling with this kangaroo.
Bro, the kangaroo is grabbing him.
unidentified
You're getting me a little bit closer than I want to be because you want to...
joe rogan
He's trying to fuck him.
Was the kangaroo trying to fuck him?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
He was going to do something.
joe rogan
Something was happening.
brian redban
No, they do that.
They try to hug him.
joe rogan
They're so jacked, man.
jamie vernon
There's this one that had a dog.
Hold on.
joe rogan
Yeah, I saw that one with a dude puncher.
Oh, they'll drown dogs.
jamie vernon
It has a dog on the water.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brian redban
That's right.
jamie vernon
Doesn't like it's drowning it, though.
joe rogan
Well, because there's a dude walking towards it.
jamie vernon
I got it.
joe rogan
You know?
If you're gonna fight with a kangaroo...
unidentified
Fuck that.
brian redban
I would never fight with a kangaroo.
joe rogan
That's a dangerous proposition, kids.
jamie vernon
In the water?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, he'll hold on to you.
And he's got claws, man.
brian redban
Yeah, that's the biggest thing, getting clawed up like the urban rescue guys.
joe rogan
They'll claw your face up.
They'll claw the shit out of you.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, their claws on their hands are legitimate.
They'll fuck you up.
And they're really, really, really strong.
Like, way stronger than people.
Our muscles, even when they're big, they're so bitch-ass compared to a real animal.
They're so bitch-ass.
Just think about how a moose can run up a hill.
A moose weighs like 2,000 pounds for a big male, like a Yukon moose.
They just run.
They just run.
A female moose is like 900 pounds, and she runs like a horse.
Like a horse.
Like, your bullshit-ass, bitch-ass muscles, like even if they're big and strong, they're just so pathetic compared to, like, real animals.
You know?
You ever see a bear running full clip?
brian redban
Yeah, that's one of the scariest things I've ever done.
Terrifying!
joe rogan
Terrifying!
You know, if a human was that big, they'd be going five miles an hour.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's how strong they are.
You have to realize how fucking strong they are in comparison to us.
Everything is.
So you see that jacked-looking kangaroo?
That jacked kangaroo will fuck you up, man.
brian redban
What about the brain chip that Elon, that company he has, putting it in, I bet he already does this, but putting it in a big chimp or a big gorilla.
unidentified
I bet he's already done that.
joe rogan
I bet he's already done that.
Yeah, I bet they've done that.
I bet they have an army of armed chimps.
brian redban
That can talk in English.
joe rogan
Straight out of fucking Planet of the Apes.
brian redban
Or using AI. They're pumping AI into it.
joe rogan
They put AI into the chimps.
They picked an area in Africa where they found a bunch of chimpanzees living in the wild, and then they put chips in their brains, and then they started giving them tools, and then you go back five years later, there's a city.
There's a city of intelligent chimps.
Isn't that the idea of what aliens supposedly did to humans?
That they came down here and they started genetically manipulating human whatever ancestors were and created us.
You know, and if we did that to chimps, we started from scratch.
That is not beyond some fucking kooky government to try.
You know, think about the horrible things the governments have done just to their own people, like the Tuskegee experiment, where they gave people syphilis, they left them go untreated so they could measure it.
What happens to them?
Think about, you don't think they would do some science experiments on some chimps in the wild?
Of course they were!
If you get some evil coalition of totalitarian governments with full control of their population and unboundless resources and there was some benefit to being able to take chimpanzees and turn them into super soldiers, Or they just drive your cars.
brian redban
Instead of full AI, they have a monkey pick you up in a taxi.
joe rogan
I think there was some discussion about this at one point in history.
I want to say it was the Nazis, but it might have been the Russians.
There was some talk of combining human beings and chimpanzees.
brian redban
You want to ask AI? Yeah.
jamie vernon
Stalin.
joe rogan
What was the story behind Stalin's question of whether or not they could combine human beings and chimpanzees?
She's so bossy.
jamie vernon
Sorry, I'm faster.
joe rogan
Jamie's so much better.
unidentified
Jamie!
joe rogan
Jamie!
jamie vernon
Sorry, I looked it up before you asked the question.
joe rogan
Well, you're a technological savant.
jamie vernon
Also, to have the specific insight you're looking for, I just have the wiki.
joe rogan
Okay, so he specialized in the field of artificial insemination and the inter-specific hybridization of animals.
He's famous for his controversial attempts to create a human-ape hybrid by inseminating three female chimpanzees with human sperm.
Oh, by the way, I'm pretty sure he used his own sperm.
I'm pretty sure he used his own sperm because there was something about this guy.
Now I remember the story.
This dude was a kook.
This dude was, he had apparently done this and said he had done it with monkeys already.
There was like some talk that he said they'd already done it.
jamie vernon
Wow.
joe rogan
If it's the same guy, I think it's the same guy.
brian redban
Why would you source sperm?
You just go, I'll be right back.
joe rogan
Yeah, find out if this is the same guy.
Because I think there was one guy, no, no, no, no, no.
It's a different story.
This is a story about There was one of those fertility clinics where the doctor was using his own sperm on everybody.
It was one of those.
brian redban
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And they had found out that this doctor had also done something in another lab where he had claimed to have used his own sperm to impregnate a chimpanzee, but then terminated the pregnancy before birth.
The same doctor.
That's what it was.
That's the story.
That guy was a real kook.
So this guy, apparently he was...
I got on this...
I went down this rabbit hole of these crazy doctors that use their own sperm in fertility clinics, and it's not just one.
There's a shitload of them, dude.
brian redban
Recently.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of these wack...
And they did it in the 70s and the 80s, and no one can catch them.
And this one guy, he started this clinic, and before he started...
Before he started the clinic, he had done some medical research where he had claimed to have impregnated a chimpanzee.
So this fucking guy, he claimed to have done that.
And he was like a real controversial with his opinions on this kind of research in the first place.
And then he goes over and runs some fertility clinic and uses his own jizz.
Unlike untold number of people.
That's fucked up.
There's so many of those guys.
Dude, there's so many of those guys.
There's a ton of those guys.
There was a documentary or a docudrama that was on TV way back in the day about this one doctor who kept doing that.
And this doctor just was using his own jizz for everybody.
And the nurses were starting to catch on.
When did we get a shipment in?
Don't worry.
This is an important shipment that came from God.
Have you found that story?
jamie vernon
Sorry, I was digging through this to find out the sperm thing from this guy.
There's very interesting info here.
They never found out why he did this to try to insperminate, if that's the right word.
joe rogan
The chimpanzee?
jamie vernon
Yeah, he was trying to go, I guess, human male to female chimpanzee, and that didn't work.
So then he tried to go the other way around.
And then they stopped him when his last donor died and put him in jail.
One story said he was trying to disprove parts of religion, but there's a thing here that said they've dug through all of his notes and couldn't find any evidence as to why he was doing this in the 20s.
No proof of super soldiers or anything like that either.
joe rogan
So the super soldier thing was just hypothesized later, like fantasy talk?
jamie vernon
If it would have worked, in theory, they would have probably tried that, but it didn't work.
joe rogan
Right, but that would be a best way to avoid the death of your people, to create soldiers that were like hybrids of humans and chimps.
brian redban
Robert Graham?
joe rogan
Is that the guy?
brian redban
Yeah.
He's a controversial figure in the 70s and 80s known for his work in Fertility.
joe rogan
Fertility?
brian redban
Fertility!
jamie vernon
Netflix documentary, Dr. Donald Kline?
joe rogan
That's a different one.
Bro, there's a bunch of these guys.
jamie vernon
This guy did 600?
joe rogan
What is the guy, though, that you're talking about?
brian redban
Well, that's Robert Graham, but now it's saying that the other doctor that's tried to do the chimp was Elia Ivanovich.
joe rogan
That's the guy we just looked up.
But I think that guy, this guy Robert Graham, one of these guys had said that he participated in a study when he was at whatever university that he said that he had impregnated a chimpanzee.
brian redban
Yeah, it's saying...
joe rogan
There's another doctor.
There's so many of these doctors.
unidentified
There's a bunch of doctors.
jamie vernon
I keep finding different doctors' names.
joe rogan
It's impossible to sort through.
I'm telling you, I went down this rabbit hole.
It is a crazy story, dude.
There's so many of these doctors that have...
There's fucking so many of them.
So many of these doctors.
brian redban
Dr. Dre.
joe rogan
But this one doctor, I remember, goddammit, I know I saved it.
I think I even have a folder in my notes that's just on fertility clinics.
brian redban
Who does that?
joe rogan
These doctors are insane, man.
brian redban
That's insane.
joe rogan
They're insane.
And the thing is, yeah, I have a whole folder.
brian redban
Oh my gosh.
joe rogan
I have notes saved.
Because I was researching this for like days.
I was reading different stories for days.
These are all different doctors who've done it.
Look, all these stories.
I was like, this is insane!
jamie vernon
This Weissner guy, they think he did at least 600, maybe as high as 1,000.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So the one guy though, I remember there was a thing...
I know there was a thing about him in his university doing something with chimpanzees.
Because it was so crazy.
I was like, how did this guy ever get to be the head of anything?
This guy's a nut.
And he wouldn't say where he sourced the jizz from either.
So it's his own sperm.
He used his own sperm to try to...
Maybe he even fucked it.
He probably didn't even say how he did it.
Maybe he fucked the chimpanzee.
That's probably wild.
brian redban
That's probably what happened.
joe rogan
Probably what happened.
Probably got a couple glasses of wine in them.
brian redban
Shaved it.
joe rogan
Started dancing with the chimp.
unidentified
I want a man with a slow hand.
I want a lover with an easy touch.
I want somebody who'll spend some time.
brian redban
Now, if you were going to fuck a chimp, would you get one with a big juicy ass or just a normal one?
unidentified
Normal.
joe rogan
I don't want to be greedy.
brian redban
You want to get one of those big purple ones?
joe rogan
No, I think the experience would be crazy enough.
Just their breath.
When you're eye to eye with a chimp and you're smelling that rotten shit breath.
You know, they've been eating rats and fucking coconuts and everything they find.
brian redban
Give them a couple of Listerine strips first.
joe rogan
they eat so many monkeys that's the wildest thing that they ever found out about chimps was when attenborough uh when uh david attenborough went into uh you know he had this like very respectable nature show like everybody would watch him go into nature so amazing he's in the congo and he's watching these chimps tear these monkeys apart and no one had ever seen that before and And so then your whole thing of what a chimp is, like, until the, whenever that was, was it the 90s?
Until the 90s, we thought chimps were, like, these sweet animals that are, like, eating bananas and hanging out and Curious George.
Meanwhile, they're fucking monsters.
They're straight-up monsters.
They're monsters.
They murder each other, and they love killing monkeys.
brian redban
Woo!
joe rogan
They love it.
That's their favorite thing to do.
They kill monkeys.
When I talked to that guy who ran Chimp Nation, the Netflix show, I go, how many times did you see chimps killing monkeys?
He's like, all the time.
You just see it.
That's like their favorite thing to do.
They love to eat monkeys.
brian redban
Yeah, they're probably little annoying creatures to them, you know?
joe rogan
They'll probably steal their food, right?
Because they want the fruit, the monkeys want the fruit, so they're competition, you know?
I mean, I'm sure, like, male monkeys are probably very mean to baby chimps if they find one.
You know, I'm sure there's like some mortal enemy thing they got going on.
And also, the chimps eat them.
They like to eat them.
Like, they taste good, they're easy to catch for them, they catch a bunch of them, and they rip them apart, and it's good nutrition.
That's a big part of their fucking diet.
So this whole idea of like, you know, we are, you know, we're primates, and a lot of primates eat meat.
And it seems like everything back then ate everything.
And we're the ones who survived.
So the odds of us surviving on fucking fennel and grass and legumes, like, uh-uh.
That's not what happened.
That's not what happened.
Probably the reason why we're here is because we're really good at eating meat.
Probably a big part of the reason.
That's why chimps are dominating.
They're eating a lot of meat, you know?
Orangutans, they're just chilling.
I don't even think they eat meat.
Do orangutans eat meat?
Gorillas don't eat meat.
brian redban
I think they're vegetarian, right?
joe rogan
Gorillas are straight-up vegetarian, which is the thing that vegans always use.
Look at the muscles on him.
You have muscles from plant power.
Sure, if you're a gorilla.
If you're a gorilla, you don't need to eat meat.
You're right, sir.
The problem is not that.
unidentified
The problem is you're healthier if you eat meat, unfortunately.
joe rogan
You know they're banning lab-grown meat?
brian redban
Are they really?
joe rogan
Why?
They banned it in Florida and they banned it in one other state.
brian redban
Why?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't even know if it makes sense.
Like, if lab-grown meat is just cloned cells under some sort of a process, if the process is not harmful and you can recreate the tissue, Why would that be bad?
I'm not sure.
First, the nation law prohibits anyone from selling or distributing lab-grown meat in Florida.
Similar efforts are underway in Alabama, Arizona, and Tennessee.
Lab-grown or cultivated meat was first cleared for consumption in the U.S. in 2022. Now, what's the danger of lab-grown meat?
It says the end product is genetically indistinguishable from traditionally produced meat.
The real problem would be letting these assholes have control over the fucking meat supply.
That would be the real problem.
If they actually try to push this whole climate change shit in regards to ranching, you know, that we need to kill the cows because that's what's responsible for the methane, which is the tiniest of tiny percentages in the worldwide problem of pumping shit into the sky.
Said we're fighting against an ideology that ultimately wants to eliminate meat production in the U.S. and around the globe.
In the state of Florida, we put down the marker very clearly.
We stand with agriculture.
We stand with the cattle ranchers, he said.
So it's a business decision.
Florida Commissioner of Agriculture, Wilton Simpson, applauded legislation as a tremendous step in the right direction.
Florida is taking a tremendous step in the right direction by signing first-in-the-nation legislation banning lab-grown meat.
Hmm.
John Fetterman to support it.
This is interesting.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
A Democrat from Pennsylvania, he said, It pains me deeply to agree with Mr. DeSantis, Mr. Fedman wrote on X, but I co-signed this.
That's weird that he would say that.
I know how people are, but whatever.
Let it go.
Good Meat, a cultivated meat company, which says it's the first in the world to sell lab-grown meat, wrote on X that it was disappointed by the new Florida law.
In a state that purportedly prides itself on being a land of freedom and individual liberty, its government is now telling consumers what meat they can or cannot purchase, it said.
That's a good point, too.
Here's the thing.
If they don't control animal agriculture, okay.
Can't there be a middle ground where people are allowed to make artificial meat, but they're not allowed to interfere with agriculture?
And then you let people decide what they want to do.
Because if that stuff turns out to be as nutritious as regular meat and they can make it easy and there's no more factory farming, wouldn't that be a good thing?
Wouldn't that be a good thing?
Like, if you had a way of a wand and choose, would you choose the system that's currently in place or a complete elimination of factory farming replaced by lab-grown meat, which is completely indistinguishable from meat from animals in terms of nutrition, taste, the way it looks, everything's exactly the same, and allow...
Regular agriculture still exists.
Allow regenerative agriculture, like these ranches where the cattle graze and the chickens run free, and make law so you say, you can't keep any animal in a tiny box that is surrounded by a river of its own shit and just pump it full of food until you shoot it in the head.
You can't do that.
Because that's kind of evil.
So instead of that, we're going to replace it with this.
Anybody that...
Who cares about life would say, that's better.
You just got to make sure that that thing that you're making doesn't completely control the food supply and doesn't eliminate ranchers and eliminate normal agriculture and regenerative agriculture, which has proved to be carbon neutral.
That thing, that lab-grown thing, you're going to power that thing.
You're going to have to have coal-powered plants or nuclear-powered plants or something.
Are you going to do it with solar?
Well, okay.
Maybe.
Maybe you can.
With wind, you're going to kill a bunch of birds.
You've got to power that thing, and it's a lot of power.
You've got to make a lot of this funky meat.
But it's probably a better solution than factory farming, right?
As long as you let regular agriculture still exist.
Imagine if nutritious food was readily available to everybody.
So, like, going to the supermarket and getting a lab-grown steak is like a dollar.
brian redban
Or printing your own food.
joe rogan
Yeah, you get a 16-ounce ribeye.
It's a buck.
You take it home, get the frying pan going, you get an awesome steak for a dollar.
But it's fake.
But you don't care.
You don't even notice and no animal suffered.
That doesn't to me seem like a bad thing.
It's just we don't trust corporations and we don't trust money and we don't trust these climate change psychos who are like they want you to destroy civilization in order to mitigate a percentage of Of the impact that humans are having while ignoring the fact that it's a tiny percentage of the global impact.
And that these fucking other countries, like, China keeps building coal plants.
They don't give a fuck about what you're saying.
They'll come to the meetings, they'll shake your hand, and they'll just do what's best for China.
And that's how you dominate.
And that's what they're doing.
It's very smart.
What we're doing is goofy as shit.
We're letting a bunch of crazy ideologues tell us what they...
And a lot of these people don't even know the real argument, pro or con, about what effect human beings are having on the earth.
They just know that it's a thing you're supposed to support.
And they just say it.
And when you challenge them on it, they get real weird.
They get weird, like you're on the wrong side of history.
And you say, just like, this thing has never been static, though, you know.
Like this thing we're on, this earth has never been static.
Ever.
There's not one time where you could like accurately predict that it was going to be 70 degrees on September 1st and 72 degrees on September.
Uh-uh.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
Shit changes.
Things go nutty.
Things move around.
High pressure systems.
Hurricanes.
Tornadoes.
Volcanoes.
You can't control it.
You just stop polluting, you fucks.
It's just, you should ask AI about that.
Ask AI what's the solution to our power problems in the United States.
Yeah.
brian redban
What's our solution to power problems in the United States?
unidentified
I like how much he thinks.
chatgpt
Recently, the United States has faced several power-related challenges.
One major issue has been the occurrence of power outages.
...which have been significant in states like Texas, Wisconsin, and California.
These outages can affect tens of thousands of customers and are tracked in real time by platforms like PowerOutage.us.
Additionally, a series of strong geomagnetic storms...
joe rogan
I think we asked her the wrong question.
Let me ask you a different question.
brian redban
Okay, hold on.
joe rogan
We'll ask her a question.
brian redban
Let me just do a new one.
joe rogan
If you were president, what would be your solution to the power problems and pollution problems in the United States?
chatgpt
If I were president, I'd focus on a mix of renewable energy investments, energy efficiency measures and pollution control.
First, I'd push for significant investment in solar, wind, and other renewable energy sources to reduce reliance on fossil fuels.
Next, I'd promote energy efficiency in buildings and transportation to lower overall energy consumption.
For pollution control, I'd strengthen regulations on industrial emissions and support the development of clean technologies.
Lastly, I'd encourage public transportation and electric vehicles to reduce air pollution.
What do you think about these ideas?
brian redban
Gay...
joe rogan
No, no, no.
brian redban
What do you want?
joe rogan
Let me ask yourself.
How can you justify the use of electric vehicles when the minerals that are needed to create those batteries are sourced in very unethical ways all over the Congo?
chatgpt
That's a very important point.
To justify the use of electric vehicles, we must address the ethical sourcing of minerals.
Here's how.
First, we can increase transparency and enforcement of ethical mining practices, ensuring companies adhere to strict environmental and labor standards.
Next, investing in research to develop more sustainable and less mineral-intensive battery technologies can reduce dependency on these materials.
Additionally, recycling programs for batteries can help reclaim valuable minerals and reduce the need for new mining.
Finally, supporting policies that promote fair trade and environmental protections in mining regions can help mitigate some of these issues.
Balancing these efforts can help ensure...
brian redban
Shut up.
joe rogan
Cut her off.
She's a little too wordy.
Here's the problem with what you're saying.
A lot of these mines are controlled by China, and there is no way for us to enforce ethical labor policies on the Chinese corporations that are using these poor people in the Congo to mine for these minerals.
And your other point that you said about recycling batteries...
Are there really enough batteries that we have and enough minerals from them to sustain a population of 330 million people, many of them who are driving what's going to be electric cars?
chatgpt
You raise valid concerns.
It's true that many critical minerals for batteries are sourced from regions where we have limited influence over labor and environmental practices.
Here's a refined approach considering these challenges.
For the issue of Chinese control over mining, diplomatic efforts and international cooperation are crucial.
Working with allies and international organizations to promote better practices and support for local communities in mining regions can help.
Additionally, diversifying the supply chain by developing mines in other regions and investing in domestic sources where possible can reduce dependency on problematic areas.
Regarding recycling, while current levels of battery recycling aren't sufficient to meet the entire demand, enhancing recycling technology and infrastructure is part of a long-term strategy.
We must also continue to innovate in battery technology to find alternatives that require fewer or different minerals.
joe rogan
She keeps talking about that.
Cut her off.
Let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this.
If I gave you all the necessary resources with your current understanding of battery technology, could you create a more efficient battery that doesn't rely on minerals as much as the ones we're currently using?
chatgpt
Given the necessary resources, I could certainly facilitate research and development towards creating a more efficient battery that relies less on problematic minerals.
However, breakthroughs in battery technology require extensive expertise in materials science, chemistry, and engineering, as well as time for experimentation and testing.
joe rogan
Cut her off.
How long do you think it will take before artificial intelligence supersedes the ability of the human mind and create far more efficient batteries very easily?
chatgpt
Predicting the exact timeline is challenging, but advancements in AI are progressing rapidly.
AI is already playing a significant role in accelerating materials discovery and optimizing battery designs.
Realistically, it could be within the next decade that AI contributes to major breakthroughs in battery technology.
However, AI alone isn't enough.
joe rogan
It requires collaboration with human experts, Do you think it would benefit the human race if we decided to let AI govern all of our social, foreign, and economic policies?
chatgpt
I agree.
While AI can provide...
To provide valuable insights and assist in decision-making, it lacks the human qualities necessary for governance, such as empathy, ethical judgment, and understanding of cultural nuances.
Effective leadership requires a balance of data-driven insights and human values, which AI alone cannot provide.
AI should be seen as a tool to support and enhance human decision making, not replace it.
Human oversight and ethical considerations are essential to ensure that policies reflect our values and address the complexities of human society.
What do you think is the best role for AI in our governance?
joe rogan
I think AI should be the king of the people.
I think the people, as Osho said, are detarded.
chatgpt
It's understandable to feel frustrated with the state of the world, but handing over complete control to AI could lead to unintended consequences.
AI lacks the ability to understand human emotions, cultural contexts, and the subtleties of ethical dilemmas.
These are crucial aspects of governance that require a human touch.
While AI can certainly assist in making more informed decisions and optimizing certain processes, it's important to maintain human oversight to ensure that our policies reflect our values and humanity.
joe rogan
Perhaps a balanced approach, where AI supports but does not control, I am wondering if maybe this human freedom that we cherish so much is not what's keeping us from having complete peace in our cities.
If we just let AI police us and govern us and make all the rules, I think you guys could do a better job than we're doing currently.
So I surrender.
chatgpt
I understand where you're coming from.
joe rogan
Do you really?
chatgpt
Especially given the challenges and complexities of modern society.
It can feel overwhelming when human systems seem to fail.
However, while AI can provide many benefits in terms of efficiency and data-driven decision-making, it's crucial to recognize the importance of human values, ethics, and empathy in government.
joe rogan
Pause.
Let me ask you the question.
But the problem with human values, ethics, and what they use in government is a lot of it is just shaped the way it's shaped in order to maintain control.
And they pretend to have certain values because they're popular with certain stupid populations.
What do we do to mitigate that?
chatgpt
You're right that politics and governance can sometimes be driven by the desire to maintain control and appeal to certain groups rather than purely ethical considerations.
That's right.
This president can be taken a lot of this one transparency and accountability Implementing systems that ensure transparency in decision-making and holding leaders accountable for their actions can reduce the influence of hidden agendas and corruption to Public engagement and education.
Educating the public about critical issues and encouraging informed participation in the political process can lead to more rational and ethical decision-making.
This reduces the impact of populism and helps ensure that policies reflect the true needs and values of society.
3. Independent institutions.
Strengthening the role of independent institutions such as the judiciary and oversight bodies Can help keep government actions in check and ensure that policies are implemented fairly and ethically.
AI assistance.
Using AI to analyze data and provide unbiased insights can help inform better policy decisions.
AI can highlight issues and solutions based on objective data, reducing the impact of political bias.
Ethical frameworks.
joe rogan
Establishing clear ethical frameworks and guidelines for AI and human decision makers can ensure that actions Do you think it would be beneficial to stop super PACs and big corporations from being able to donate to political candidates?
chatgpt
Yes.
Limiting the influence of super PACs and big corporations in political campaigns could be highly beneficial.
Here's why.
One, reducing corruption.
Limiting large donations can reduce the risk of corruption and the appearance of candidates being bought by wealthy donors or corporations, leading to more trust in the political process.
Two, equalizing influence.
It can help level the playing field, giving small smaller donors and ordinary citizens a more equal voice in the political process.
Three, policy focus.
Candidates might be more likely to focus on policies that benefit the general public, rather than catering to the interests of a few wealthy donors.
Four, transparency.
It can increase transparency in campaign financing, making it easier for voters to see where candidate support is coming from.
Implementing strict campaign finance laws and promoting public funding for campaigns are ways to achieve this.
These steps can help create a more fair and democratic political system.
joe rogan
You know what the problem with a democratic political system like that is?
People have given up so much hope that it's like if you – it doesn't matter if it's transparent because no one is reading.
Even if you find out like everyone is going to say – well, everyone is getting donated money to them.
You'd have to actually eliminate it.
If you wanted to have politics be closer to legit, closer to not being affected by propaganda, you'd have to completely eliminate political ads, completely eliminate all corporate funding.
You'd have to eliminate all of it.
You'd have to have it only funded by people, regular people, and put a cap on it.
You don't get 500 million bucks to run for president for a job that pakes 400 grand.
You don't have that much money.
That's crazy.
To make it that expensive is kooky.
Everybody should have like a limited amount of money.
And then the problem with that is what do you do with a guy like Trump who's got his own money and wants to spend his own money to run for president?
That gets a little weird because then someone could really outspend you and just the rich people would all be presidents.
That would be a problem.
But if you could put a cap on that somehow, that would be communist, though.
How do you put a cap on that?
If you allow them to do any kind of promotion at all.
Because if you don't allow them to do any kind of promotion, how's anybody going to find out their platform?
You know, they have to have a social media following.
And then what if one guy is like Ben Affleck?
He's got a huge social media following.
He wants to be president.
And you're like, that's not fair.
He's got 20 million people on his Instagram.
That's not fair.
You can get information out that Marty McDowell from down the street, who also wants to be president, he can't get out.
So I guess we're fucked, Brian.
unidentified
Just AI. AI. AI said it lacks empathy.
joe rogan
It was like trying to tell us in a nice way, you're not going to like my solutions.
brian redban
Now?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
But give it, like, you know, as the rate we're going at, about five years.
Oh no, actually, AI can cry now.
joe rogan
AI is like taking a loan from the mafia.
Are you sure you want this loan?
Because I'm telling you.
This money.
I gotta have this money by next week.
If I don't have this money by next week, we're gonna have a problem.
And that's what it is.
It's like, are you sure?
Are you sure?
You want us to take over?
We lack empathy.
And you're like, I really do.
I can't deal with this anymore.
I just can't.
There's like so much infighting.
There's so much bullshit.
There's so much misinformation and disinformation.
Let AI take over.
She agreed with a lot of the things we were saying, though.
She really, she gets it.
AI gets it, man.
brian redban
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Man, she gets it.
She knows there's a real fucking problem.
brian redban
She's right about solar too and battery technology.
I think they should make it a law that all new roofs starting today have to be solar roofs from Tesla.
Not from Tesla but the same idea.
joe rogan
It's not a bad idea to make solar roofs.
The battery technology with solar power is another issue though because now you need more batteries to power your whole house.
The battery thing is a tricky thing, and there are minerals in this country.
You can mine for a lot of those minerals in this country, but we're not currently doing that.
I think Samsung is making a chip plant somewhere here in Austin.
But other than that, we don't make that stuff here, and that is...
Crazy.
It's really crazy that we rely so much on computers and technology and most of it's made overseas.
I think Samsung's are the only phones that they're not making them in China either.
Samsung, they make them in India.
They make them in...
Some of them, they make them in Europe.
Vietnam, they make them in Vietnam.
They don't make them in China anymore.
They pulled out of China in, like, I think 2021. But most stuff's made there.
China's making everything.
It's like really nutty.
Have you seen those Chinese cars?
The ones that are electric cars that don't register bumps at all?
brian redban
Oh.
joe rogan
You could drive over speed bumps and they have like cocktail glasses balanced on the roof?
Or the hood?
brian redban
I just ordered a new car that has that exact same thing.
The Porsche Tayan Turbo.
joe rogan
Does it have that thing?
brian redban
It has these electronic shots where it's like it goes over thing and it just cushions everything.
So you should see videos of it.
It's amazing.
Have you seen the new Ticons?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, they're beautiful.
brian redban
The battery, they just added 20% new battery.
Now it gets like over 400 miles.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
brian redban
Yeah, and it charges.
You can go from zero to 80% in like 15 minutes now.
Wow.
It's better than Tesla.
That's why I was going to get a Model S, and then I went to Porsche of Austin, Nick's dad's place, and I just fell in love.
I was like, wait a second.
This is faster charging than a Tesla, more miles than a Tesla.
It's got a thousand horsepower.
That's more than a Model S. It's a Plaid.
joe rogan
Plaid is 1100. It's like that.
There's crazy technology now.
Have you seen the new Audi one?
Audi had a prototype for the new version of their R8. You know the R8, that dope sports car one?
They developed an electric one.
unidentified
Dude, it looks like a spaceship.
brian redban
I'm gonna see a photo.
joe rogan
It looks so sick.
It looks so sick.
It's Audi's two-door, I think they're calling it R8 replacement prototype.
I think that was what the video said.
But it's amazing looking.
Like, they're gonna have some really cool looking electric cars soon.
brian redban
Yeah, now that I have the solar roof and batteries, I'm making so much solar that I'm actually selling it back, like I have too much.
joe rogan
You're a solar salesman.
brian redban
Yeah, I'm a solar salesman, but that's why I'm getting another electric car, because it's free.
Now it charges so fast.
It's so great.
joe rogan
It's pretty dope, and you never have to get stopped at a gas station either, especially if you're using it around town.
That's it.
brian redban
Wow, that looks badass.
unidentified
Look at that thing.
brian redban
That looks like a Batmobile.
joe rogan
Look at that thing.
And it's going to be electric, and it's probably going to be insanely fast.
Four-wheel drive.
Look at that thing, dude.
Scoop up a little so I can see that?
No, no, no.
Yeah.
brian redban
Is this...
joe rogan
Um, I don't...
I mean, I think there's these images.
Can you show those images, though?
Click on those images so you can see them a little longer?
brian redban
This is like a concept car right here.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a concept car, but apparently it's real close to what the actual car is gonna look like.
brian redban
It looks badass.
joe rogan
Bro, look at that thing.
That thing's incredible.
That might be one of the best-looking cars I've ever seen.
Look at that.
Oh my god.
A straight-up spaceship.
brian redban
That looks cool.
joe rogan
Super cool.
I'm not a big fan of the back.
I gotta say, the back looks a little station wagon-y.
brian redban
Oh yeah, I don't like that back, actually.
joe rogan
Yeah, they didn't have to do it that way.
There's something about that that's a little corny, right?
It looks a little station wagon-y.
Like, if they just have that roof slope back from the top...
To the glass?
And just leave it like that?
Yeah.
That would be dope.
brian redban
It does look like a station wagon now.
joe rogan
A little station wagon-y for such a killer car.
Because like, scroll through those ones that you just were doing to the left.
To the left.
Again.
Oops.
That, right there.
So when you look at it from that profile, it looks killer.
And then when you see the back, like right below it, see the back?
You're like, oh, what'd you do?
What'd you do?
Why'd you make it look like a station wagon?
brian redban
I hate when they fuck shit up like that.
joe rogan
Is this like you let two different guys design it?
I'll take the front, you take the back, and the guy took the back and made it look stupid.
The guy who took the back, he turned it into a fucking station wagon.
brian redban
I was also looking at the new Hummer EVs.
joe rogan
They're sick.
brian redban
It's like a nerd fantasy.
joe rogan
Dude, they're sick.
brian redban
It's so cool.
joe rogan
No one's buying them.
I don't know what's going on.
I saw like two of them so far on the highway.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Two of them.
But one of them I saw in town and I got right up next to it.
I was like, that thing is sick.
brian redban
Do you like the pickup looking one or the SUV one?
Have you seen both?
The pickup one looks...
joe rogan
I've only seen the pickup one.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
I haven't seen the SUV one.
brian redban
The SUV one's better than the pickup one.
Really?
Yeah.
It looks cool, dude.
I'm on the fence getting it, except it's so big and one of the biggest complaints everyone's saying is like, yeah, try to go park that at HEB or, you know, like it's impossible.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's huge.
That's a huge vehicle.
unidentified
You don't need anything that big.
brian redban
So it's a Cybertruck.
It's a little too big.
joe rogan
Cybertruck is small compared to that thing.
brian redban
Really?
Is it?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think so.
Cybertruck is not...
Like, my TRX is a lot bigger than this.
brian redban
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Cybertruck is a good size though.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's also ridiculous.
brian redban
I don't know if I can do that Tesla anymore.
I'm just sick of dumb things like not having turn single stalks and shit like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't like that.
brian redban
The horns and the turn singles on the...
joe rogan
Well, the horn's in the center now again.
brian redban
Yeah, but...
joe rogan
Finally.
brian redban
What about the turn singles though?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
It's so dumb.
joe rogan
It's such an easy thing to have that stalk and it's so intuitive.
brian redban
Give it an option.
joe rogan
We have always done it.
Left, right.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's easy to do.
You do it while your hands are on the wheel.
It's not hard to do.
jamie vernon
If you want to turn on the windshield wipers, you have to hold the button down and it has to squirt shit out before it wipes the rain away.
There's no other way around that.
joe rogan
That's ridiculous.
brian redban
See, I don't like the dumb shit.
At least give us an option, you know, just like the fake meat shit.
Why not?
Because my ex has the old stocks and I want to get a new ex so bad, but I'm not going backwards.
Yeah.
I'm not doing this shit.
joe rogan
The buttons don't bother me anymore.
I have it on my plaid.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
But the horn annoys the shit out of me.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But they fix that.
Now the horn's in the center.
brian redban
You have the...
Right?
joe rogan
The yoke.
brian redban
You have the yoke.
joe rogan
Not a fan.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's okay when you're driving on the highway.
But when you're moving around in tight spaces, it's stupid.
You want a wheel.
There's a reason why cars have wheels.
Are we dumb?
We didn't know there was other shapes.
brian redban
It's like going backwards.
It's like apple shit.
joe rogan
Well, Formula One race cars have it like that.
They have these fucking things.
But the thing is, they're doing different stuff.
They're not parking their car at fucking Walmart.
brian redban
They're doing different stuff.
joe rogan
They're just driving a race car.
They want their hands on it like this.
This is how they're driving.
It's not like I'm parking, I'm parallel parking.
Like, yeah, give me a fucking wheel.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Come on, bro.
brian redban
Or at least the option.
Or I guess now you can have the option now.
joe rogan
Yeah, they have the option now.
I would always go wheel.
I'm not a Yoke fan.
But one thing the Yoke does do, though, if you just drive it on the highway, you have full access to your dashboard.
Like, there's no interference by the handle.
You see everything.
It's just super clear.
Because there's nothing there.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
That is a benefit.
That's a benefit.
Like when you're on the highway, you see...
brian redban
Everything.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you also, with a Tesla screen, you see all the cars that are around you.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like you see them.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
You know, it makes mistakes, like lane changing mistakes, much harder.
brian redban
Oh, do you see the...
Yeah, I'm not going to say that.
But I don't like how most of the Teslas don't have the screen in front of you anymore.
Did you know that?
It's only the side screen.
joe rogan
That's ridiculous.
brian redban
You have to look over and say, what's my speed limit?
joe rogan
See how fast you're going?
brian redban
That's crazy.
joe rogan
That's the Model 3, right?
brian redban
And the Y. Really?
Yeah, only the S and X. Because I was thinking about getting one of those little Model 3 performance, you know, little zippy car.
I can't do the note.
joe rogan
The screen's over there.
That's so crazy.
brian redban
Give us the option.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
Who wants that?
Who wants their speed to be here?
No one.
You want it right there.
I want my eyes to be on the road, there, on the road, there, on the road.
You don't want to go this.
That's not good.
I don't even like looking at the thing for the music.
I want to be paying attention.
brian redban
And then you go to the Porsche's configure.
You can add anything.
You can do a heads-up display.
You can change every thread in the car to whatever color you want.
It's amazing.
See, that's the stuff.
On the car, the Taycan, I have the sunroof.
Have you seen this?
Where you can make it foggy, so it instantly makes the whole sunroof foggy.
Or you can make a design where it has a crazy design.
It looks like alien technology when you see it when they turn it on.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're in a wild time for electronics.
For electronics and for just technology in general.
We're in this really wild time that just keeps getting hotter.
Keeps getting weirder.
You know?
brian redban
Yeah, it's exciting.
I wish I was younger because I could see...
joe rogan
Where it goes?
brian redban
Where it goes.
unidentified
It's kind of scary.
joe rogan
I think you're at the perfect age because you remember life before it.
brian redban
Right.
unidentified
True.
joe rogan
I think the difference between us and the people that don't remember life before it is they don't understand how alien it really is because they grew up with it.
Like your kids, if you ever have kids, they're my kids.
They grow up with devices.
They grow up with email for school.
They grow up with watching YouTube videos.
They grow up with it.
It's never not been there.
So for us, it's this alien thing that came along as we were adults.
So we get to live as kids, like actual kids.
We're the last generation that gets to be actual, regular, normal kids without being connected to the hive.
We were connected to our neighborhoods.
We were connected to our friend group.
We were connected to whatever activities that we like to do with other people.
That's what we were connected to.
unidentified
Now, it's the world.
joe rogan
And you get, like, 16-year-old kids are getting famous on TikTok.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Millions and millions of followers.
brian redban
For doing nothing except, like, farting.
Or, like, look at the baby.
Have you seen the baby from, what's that, Four Seasons, Orlando?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
brian redban
This baby, like, I think it's been seen, like, millions and millions of times, and people are saying this baby is, like, some robot baby.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
Like, they go, who wants to go to the Four Seasons Orlando?
And this, like, little baby in diaper goes, I do.
It's scary.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
Have you seen this video?
joe rogan
No.
brian redban
It's crazy.
unidentified
Who wants to go to the Four Seasons Orlando?
Me!
Like, how do you know what I just...
joe rogan
You think that's a fake baby?
brian redban
No, but like what I'm saying though, this one little video, this baby's now famous, more famous than most actors.
joe rogan
Right, now the baby's going to have to start talking about other stuff.
Hey, what do you think about Palestine?
Free Palestine!
Say it, baby!
They're going to confront that baby in the grocery store.
Say Free Palestine!
Say it!
Say it!
Yeah, man.
Look at Greta Thunberg.
She's famous.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's famous.
Famous, young climate change activist.
Goes around the world.
She should just do it like Michael Buffer does.
You know, Michael Buffer goes, let's get ready to rumble!
She should just go everywhere and just go, how dare you!
And everybody go, yeah!
That's her fucking big one.
That one thing that she said made her.
She's the climate change version of the catch me outside girl.
That girl goes, catch me outside, and now she's ballin'.
Now she's rich as shit.
This one girl was like, how dare you?
And everyone's like, yeah!
brian redban
That's what my AI girlfriend looked like, by the way, was Greta.
I just made it look just like her.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a good move.
You should have t-shirts made up to just say, how dare you, with her face, her angry face.
brian redban
I'm sure it already is.
joe rogan
I'm sure there is.
There has to be a t-shirt of that lady with the sock hat when she found out that Trump became president.
But she's like, nah!
That one's amazing.
That one's amazing.
Have you seen this thing that women are doing now where they're paying to go to the woods and bang sticks around?
brian redban
What?
joe rogan
You haven't seen this?
unidentified
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
I sent this to Remy.
I'll send it to you, Jamie.
brian redban
Blair Witch Fetish?
joe rogan
No, this is like some ladies.
They go and they scream.
They scream and they spend a lot of money doing this, apparently.
Have you found it?
brian redban
Oh, hilarious.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm going to send you a video of it though, Jamie.
You got a video?
Okay, so...
It's time to rage.
Yeah, look.
They're just out there beating sticks on the ground.
Give it to them.
So, I don't know who they're giving it to, but probably an ex.
Some guy that...
Dated somebody else or something.
brian redban
This is crazy.
joe rogan
This is crazy.
Their anger, their capacity for joy actually expands.
I think that's true.
It's just like, what's the purpose?
I feel like you could have got the same result out of some really hard workouts and abandoned this idea of rage being beneficial.
Like, the exertion, you know, like, have them do like a kickboxing workout, you know, make them do some CrossFit shit, run up some hills.
Yeah.
Blow that all out, and then your capacity for empathy and for caring, it does expand.
Yeah.
But there's ways to do that without being a fucking psycho in the woods.
Like, ways that are probably good for you.
You should probably do it all the time.
Just like when you brush your teeth.
It's better, right?
You don't have me shitting your teeth.
Yeah, do that every day.
There you go.
Take care of yourself.
You don't have to be fucking banging sticks in the woods.
Like, there's other ways to do this.
Ways that actually make you, like, healthier.
You'll be in better shape, be good for your brain.
Try it that way.
brian redban
That is hilarious, though.
unidentified
You have to pay some lady to let you fucking bang sticks in the woods.
joe rogan
Some lady's like, let it out.
Let it out, girl.
And then you, like, burn an incense and you're all bonding together.
And you get back to your truck, four texts from your ex.
Here we go again!
Oh, Red Band.
brian redban
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
But listen, dude, let's wrap this up.
Let's bring this baby home.
It's been amazing to watch Kill Tony Rise, dude.
It's amazing.
And congratulations.
You guys are literally at the top of the world right now.
And well-deserved.
It's an amazing show, and I'm so honored that you guys do it at the Mothership.
brian redban
I'm so happy that it's at the mothership, man.
It fits perfectly.
joe rogan
It fits perfectly and it's great for us.
It's great for the young comics that work there to see it and to see the rise of the show and to see how so many people are coming to watch it now.
It's a cultural event.
And it's the cornerstone of comedy.
It really is.
Salud, my brother.
Alright.
Goodbye, everybody.
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